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Romney's New Entry in Immigration Fray

Candidate: Mitt Romney

The Ad: We all know Hillary Clinton and the Democrats have it wrong on illegal immigration. Our party should not make that mistake. As governor, I authorized the state police to enforce immigration laws. I opposed driver's licenses and in-state tuition for illegal aliens. As president, I'll oppose amnesty, cut funding for sanctuary cities and secure our borders. Legal immigration is great, but illegal immigration - that's got to stop.

Analysis: By opening this ad, airing in Iowa and New Hampshire, with pictures of Clinton, Barack Obama and John Edwards, Romney is ignoring his GOP rivals and trying to capitalize on the flap over immigration at last week's Democratic debate. He also ignores President Bush's failed plan to create a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants--as well as the disclosure that a lawn-care company used by Romney employed undocumented workers.

As Massachusetts governor, Romney opposed driver's licenses for illegal immigrants, providing a clear contrast with the leading Democratic candidates. But despite the ad's tough talk, he took no action for most of his term against cities such as Cambridge that declared themselves sanctuary cities that would not report immigration violations to federal authorities. Romney's authorization of specially trained state troopers to arrest illegal immigrants took place two weeks before he left office.

By adding the caveat that "legal immigration is great," Romney appears to be trying to reassure Hispanic voters who have grown wary of the Republican Party's aggressive use of the issue.

--Howard Kurtz

Posted at 11:17 AM ET on Nov 9, 2007  | Category:  Ad Watch
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Cyberland-Nice try!

Allow me to retort.

The Year is 2007, since 1985 we have become over-run with Undocumented Foreign invaders!

Our Country is FULL! 300 Million! Messico only has 90 Million!

If any Country can fit more in, it is them!

Now, realize that we are talking about a BORDERING Country. Just as you pointed out, allow too many accross your Border, Lose Sovereignty!

Sorry if WE are Smarter! See, WE took in the Cream of Mexico when the REVOLUTIONARIES Robbed the Country!

We liked the Elite we took in. WE are SMART ENOUGH to recognize opportunistic Revolutionary Thieves when we see the scum trying to pull a STUNT!

Mas Invasorios? No creo Yo!

Hasta la Vista La Raza! Hasta la Vista Invasora Revolutionarios!

Posted by: rat-the | November 12, 2007 5:35 PM

Well it has to be either Mitt or Fred.
Rudy is a Rhino, Neo Con and is for amnesty.

Posted by: Bettybb | November 11, 2007 11:53 PM

Nice little one sided history lesson. What you forgot to mention was how long Mexico had occupied those areas... and a description of its invasion(s) which were some of the most butal of all in terms of the native people.

But this must be La Raza/MECHa fairy tale history lesson to convince Mexicans that they have 1, supeior blood, 2, some sort of right to a maked up land in the USA and 3, should exterminate all non lations. (Check out their web sites, I am not making this up --- it is Hilter's philosophy in the 21st century).

Posted by: Bettybb | November 11, 2007 11:52 PM

Just as people in the US fought for Independence from England, Mexicans started their war for independence from Spain in 1810 and achieved it in 1821.

After independence, the formerly Spanish territories were under Mexican control. Mexico forbid Anglo immigration.

Whites consistently broke Mexican law when they illegally invaded California and the Southwest.

In Texas, the Mexican government had given permission for some whites to emigrate. But thousands more Anglo immigrants, or criminals, arrived illegally.

Prior to 1823, there were less than three thousand white people in Texas. At that time, the Mexican government had given Stephen Austin permission to live there along with a few hundred other Gringos, with the condition that they would become Mexican citizens, they would speak Spanish, and they would pledge allegiance to the Mexican government. But white colonists began to enter the territory illegally and brought their slaves with them. Within a decade, whites outnumbered the Hispanic inhabitants. Gringos were interested in the rich agricultural lands of the Texan territory. These were the illegal aliens of their day, see Patricia Nelson Limerick, The Legacy of Conquest: The Unbroken Past of the American West. By 1830, whites outnumbered Mexicans 25,000 to 4,000.

In 1835 Sam Houston, who had illegally crossed into Texas, argued against mixing with the Mexicans, "no matter how long we may live among them." See Houston speech to Soldiers, January 15, 1836, in the Papers of the Texas Revolution, 1835-1836, gen. Ed. John J. Jenkins, 4:30. The Gringos eventually overwhelmed the original inhabitants of the territory and began to impose the English language on them.

According to Mexican Lieutenant Jose Maria Sanchez, the foreign intruders "have taken possession of practically all the eastern part of Texas, in most cases without the permission of the authorities. They immigrate constantly, finding no one to prevent them, and take possession of the sitio (location) that best suits them without either asking leave or going through any formality other than that of building their homes."

During the Battle of the Alamo, the defenders were fighting for slavery, which Mexico had abolished in Texas in 1829. After the defeats at the Alamo and Goliad, on April 21, 1836, Sam Houston's army of less than 800 men defeated Santa Anna's army as it camped out on the San Jacinto River, east of present-day Houston. The next day, Houston's army captured Santa Anna himself and forced him to sign a treaty granting Texas its independence, a treaty that was never ratified by the Mexican government because it was acquired under duress.

Soon after, these Anglo aliens usurped Mexicans' land. They began to dishonor Mexican land claims. They passed new laws in English, a foreign language for those Mexicans whose border had moved. Often Mexican land was auctioned off for pennies an acre for failure to pay taxes. Mexicans were commonly lynched and whole communities were driven out of Texas towns.

Gringos carried out raids in which they murdered Mexicans and forcibly took their land and stocks. Historian A.B.J. Hammet states that Mexican families were "driven from their homes, their cattle and horse and their lands, by an army of reckless, war-crazy people." In 1839 over a hundred Mexican families were forced to abandon their houses in the town of Nacogdoches by invading Gringos. The mayor of San Antonio in 1840, Juan Seguin, states in his "Personal Memoirs of John N. Seguin", how Mexicans came to him repeatedly from protection of the invading whites. Eventually, he had to flee to Mexico because of personal threats against him.

Anglo outlaws raided Mexican ranches, killing the inhabitants, burning homes and stores. Mexican livestock was declared public property and the invaders forcefully took Mexicans' property and their land. Mexicans were driven out of Austin in 1853 and again in 1855. They were expelled from Seguin in 1854, from Matagorda and Colorado Counties in 1856, and from Uvalde in 1857.


Rancher Faustino Morales recalls that how the Gringos "came in and drove the Mexicans out and took over their ranches." See Frank H. Dugan, "The 1850 Affairs of the Brownsfield Separatists". Southwestern Historical Quarterly 61,no.2.

Years later, whites would also use the Texas Rangers to officially carry out their deeds. "Texas Rangers, in cooperation with land speculators, came into small Mexican villages in the border country, massacred hundreds of unarmed, peaceful Mexicans villagers and seized their lands. See "The Mexican Question in the Southwest, " Political Affairs March 1939.

Most of the illegal aliens were land speculators and criminals. William Barret Travis had escaped to Mexican territory after he had killed a man. Jim Bowie was a slave trader who had gone into Texas hoping to make some business; Sam Houston and Davy Crockett had participated in the massacre of the Creeks at Horseshoe Bend.

Abb Emanuel Domenech, a religious missionary in Southern Texas, states in "Missionary Adventures in Texas and Mexico" that "The American of the Texan frontiers are, for the most part, the very scum of society-bankrupts, escaped criminals, old volunteers, who after the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, came into a country protected by nothing that could be called a judicial authority, to seek adventure and illicit gains."

The Anglo invasion of Mexican territory was not confined to Texas. They arrived in droves and illegally occupied great parts of the Southwest and California.
California Governor Pio Pico warned of how "we find ourselves threatened by hordes of Yankee immigrants who have already begun to flock into our country and whose progress we cannot arrest."
By the late 1800's, Anglos had acquired four fifths of the Mexican land grants. See A History of Multicultural America, by Ronald Takaki. Six years after Texas independence, 1.3 million acres had been seized by 13 anglos. David Montejano, Anglos and Mexicans in the Making of Texas.

Believing in its racist ideology to wipe out other races by killing Indians and stretching to the Pacific Ocean, the United States had previously offered to purchase the Mexican territories of California, New Mexico, and Arizona for $15 milion. Mexico had indignantly refused the offer. Just as George Bush used the pretext of Weapons of Mass Destruction to attack Irak, US President James Polk then instigated war against Mexico in 1846 in hopes of acquiring Mexican territory. Most historians agree that this war was unjustified. Opponents of the war included Henry David Thoreau, Ralph Waldo Emerson, Henry Clay, Mark Twain and Daniel Webster.

One of the most interesting episodes of the Mexican War surrounded the St. Patrick's Battalion. Among the American troops was a contingent of Irish-born soldiers. After the war commenced, 200 of these soldiers concluded that they were fighting on the wrong side. They didn't like the fact that the United States was using its overwhelming might to invade and conquer a much weaker nation. They deserted the American army and began fighting for the Mexican army.
When U.S. Gen. Winfield Scott and his troops reached Mexico City, after invading at Veracruz, they captured the St. Patrick soldiers and hanged 50 of them.
The Mexican War ended with the surrender of Mexico and with the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo in 1848. With this treaty, Mexico lost one-half of its territory.

But this illegal and unjust war cannot be justified, just as I cannot go into your home, put a gun to your head, force you to sell me your house for $5, and then pretend that this transaction was just or legal.

Posted by: cyberland2005 | November 10, 2007 11:07 PM

Today's immigrants are not different from other immigrants who have arrived here in the past. Throughout the 1800s, there was a huge wave of immigrants from Southern and Eastern Europe, Italians, Polish, Russsians, Jews, who arrived on our shores with no knowledge of English. These newcomers encountered the same racist nativist attacs that are being heard today. It is estimated that four million Italians and three million Slavs arrived during that time. More than two million Jews also emigrated to the US. These people were poor and illiterate. They could not read or write in their own language, much less in English. Germans and English also arrived in the millions to escape political instability and food shortages in their countries. Newspapers of the day decried that arrival of these aliens and condemned the corrupt governments who sent these people to the shores of the United States.

Riots erupted in opposition to the presence of these immigrants. Just like in the previous century, when Germans were accused by Anglos of being the cause of all ills in society, immigrants were scapegoated.

The Irish fled Ireland starting in the 1840s to escape the deadly potato famine. Millions of Irish arrived to the American continent, almost a third of North America's immigrants. They were escaping political corruption and certain starvation in their country.

Most immigrants came for economic reasons and were part of extensive migratory systems that responded to changing demands in labor markets. The American economy had needed both unskilled and skilled workers through much of the nineteenth century. But after the 1880s, the demand was almost exclusively for unskilled workers to fill the growing number of factory jobs. More than five million immigrants came to the US during the 1880s alone. Southern and eastern Europeans, dislocated from their land and possessing few skills, were attracted to the burgeoning industries in the United States.

Like today's Latino immigrants, Italian immigrants were particularly likely to take heavy construction jobs after arrival in the US. About half of all late 19th century Italian immigrants were manual laborers. Contracted out by a professional labor broker known as a "Padrone," Italians dug tunnels, laid railroad tracks, constructed bridges and roads. They were mostly young, single, and had little money. The Irish immigrants had few technical skills, and their agricultural skills were limited to the spade-culture of potatoes and animal tending. They were half-starved, weak and destitute. A New York Times Editorial, June 2, 1874, urged the US government to turn a million Italian beggars into prosperous citizens.

Too poor to leave Ireland when the Potato famine began, families found passage on overcrowded, fever-ridden ships after unscrupulous businessmen discovered they could make money transporting desperate people to the US. On these "coffin ships," as they came to be known, many of them died during or just after the trip, but they had no choice but to leave for a better future or to starve to death in their own countries. These aliens had no skills, no tools, no education. Sometimes immigrant men had to be supported by their wives and daughters who worked as domestic servants in hotels and private homes, while they themselves worked sporadically sweeping streets, tending horses, cleaning stables, cutting fish, and performing any other menial work they could find.

The Italians immigrants were escaping poverty from their country, unemployment, high mortality, no medical care, little or no schooling, poor housing, semi-starvation, and exploitation. The majority of immigrants around the turn of the century were males who worked and saved money to send back to their families back home. Shipping companies made large profits by carrying immigrant aliens to the United States. They would bring cotton, wood, and crop cargoes to Europe and on the return trip bring immigrants to the US. There was hardly a city of any size in US that did not have a section designated as "Little Italy." Italians would look to settle in these areas, for it was here that they felt free from the discrimination around them. This resulted in the formation of very definite ethnic communities: Irish, Polish and Jewish ethnic enclaves developed.

The majority of these European aliens entered the country illegally. For this reason, in 1891, Congress passed a law stating that those who had entered the country illegally could be expelled within one year. See Reports of the Immigration Commission (61 Cong., 3 Sess., Senate Doc. No. 758.) However, these aliens simply got off the boats, declared themselves to be American, and blended with the larger society.

By blaming immigrants for all the problems in their cities, politicians hoped to easily win election to office. In 1884 US congressmen decried that Italy and Hungary were shipping "as many cattle, large number of degraded, ignorant, brutal foreign serfs" to replace American citizens.

The racist media, which has always been the main conduct of anti-immigrant propaganda, proclaimed:

"These people are not Americans, but the very scum and offal of Europe...an invasion of venomous reptiles...long-haired, wild-eyes, bad-smelling, atheistic, reckless foreign wretches, who never did an honest hour's work in their lives..crush such snakes...before they have time to bite." See Public Opinion, I (1886), 82-86, iii (1887), 49 and V (1888), 432.

In 1882, the New York Tribune spoke against Jewish immigrants: "Numerous complaints have been made in regard to the Hebrew immigrants who lounge about Battery Park, obstructing the walks and sitting on the chains. Their filthy condition has caused many of the people who are accustomed to go to the park to seek a little recreation and fresh air to give up this practice. The immigrants also greatly annoy the persons who cross the park to take the boats to Coney Island, Staten Island and Brooklyn. The police have had many battles with these newcomers, who seem determined to have their own way."

The Chinese immigrants also arrived, but they experienced more direct discrimination because of their non-European origins. There were numerous riots against Chinese miners in California in the mid 1800s. In 1885, the population of Eureka drove all the Chinese out of Humboldt county by threat of force. In 1885, there were anti-Chinese riots in Rock Springs, Wyoming. An Arizona newspaper editorialized against the Chinese immigrants who sent money back to their families: "The Chinese are the least desired immigrants who have ever sought the United States...the almond-eyed Mongolian with his pig-tail, his heathenism, his filthy habits, his thrift and careful accumulation of savings to be sent back to the flowery kingdom."

The Montanian newspaper in 1873 editorialized against the Chinese: "We don't mind hearing of a Chinaman being killed now and then, but it has been coming too thick of late...Don't kill them unless they deserve it, but when they do--why kill'em lots." In 1869, Montana governor James M. Ashley advocated" ...Montana is better adopted to the hardy races of men and women from Great Britain and Northern Europe..." The Chinatowns that sprang up in cities like San Francisco and New York was a defense mechanism against the hatred and prejudice of the society around them. According to the racist newspaper editorials of the time, "The manners and habits of the Chinese are very repugnant to Americans in California. Of different language, blood, religion, and character, inferior in most mental and bodily qualities, the Chinaman is looked upon by some as only a little superior to the Negro, and by others as somewhat inferior. See Frank Soule, John H. Gihon, and James Nisbet, The Annals of San Franciso (1966).

Anti-Chinese riots occurred in San Francisco in 1869, and in Los Angeles in Chinatown, when whites descended on the area and burned and looted businesses, beat the Chinese , and killed at least 19 Chinese during four hours. See "Chinese Massacre at Los Angeles in 1871," Annual Publication of the Historical Society of Southern California (Los Angeles, 1894), C.P. Dorland. In 1877, a similar even took place in San Francisco when whites attacked the Chinese ghetto in San Francisco. In the California Constitution, Article XIX was added in 1879, which forbade employment of any Chinese in any public work and allowed any city to expel its Chinese residents. In the 1850s, the California's Supreme Court stated that Chinese were Indians, and similarly as with Mexicans, they could not testify in court against a white man.

Between 1820 and 1890, fifteen million people immigrated to the US, 2/3s of them from Germany, Ireland and Great Britain. The majority of the British immigrants were paupers.

It was during this period that the Know-Nothing organizations were created in response to the arrival of these new immigrants who were considered different from "true Americans". Immigrants were often lynched by mobs. Riots were common throughout the nation to protest the arrival of these undesirables. Irish immigrants were considered by nativists to be lazy drunks. Poles, Italians and Jews were considered to be racially inferior and to be detrimental to America society.

The Know Nothing Party feared the arrival of Catholic Irish. They advocated banning immigrants from holding office, and a 21-year wait for citizenship. They used criminal statistics to show that Irish were the group with the greatest number of arrest in cities like New York. Eugenicists like Edward Jarvis published studies that indicated that immigrants had higher rates of mental disorders.

In the early 1850s the anti-Catholic Native American Party was established to attack the foreign religious elements of the German and Irish. Convents were burned, priests were driven from their pulpits.

Nativists blamed Catholics for unemployment by stating that Papal agents had unleashed millions of Italians on American soil to take away the jobs from native Americans. They stated that Catholics had started a run on banks to prepare the way for the seizure of the US government by Italy's Pope. They fabricated a document "Instructions to Catholics", which detailed a conspiracy by Catholics to control the American workplace. See Washington Gladden, "The Anti-Catholic Crusade", Century Magazine, XLVII (1894), 790.

In 1855, German immigrants, who were routinely persecuted, were involved in deadly riots against Know Nothings in Cincinnati, Columbus and Louisville.

These immigrants were accused by the larger society of refusing to assimilate. Little Italys and Irelands could be found in major cities like Hartford, New Haven, Waterbury, and New Britain, where they were sealed off from the wider American society. New Haven's Italian colony centered around Wooster Square. It was at first a neighborhood for the Irish. There were many large mansions in the area. However, after the Civil War, industry began flourishing and factories moved into the area. Landlords turned the remaining homes into multiple dwellings which became overcrowded and neglected.

In The Children of Columbus by Erik Amfitheatrof, he describes the worst of the padroni as "flesh peddlers" who recruited peasants from southern Italy, stuck dozens of people in disgusting tenements and took over 60% of their pay as their commission. Jacob Riis, an immigrant, described the horrors of these tenements in his book How The Other Half Lives. He reports "one room 12x12 with five families living in it, comprising twenty persons of both sexes and all ages, with only two beds, without partitions, screen, chair or table." In New Orleans in the 1800s, many Sicilians had settled in this area and were employed as fishermen or farmers. Italians were generally stereotyped as mafioso criminals. In 1891, the police chief had been investigating reports of what he considered to be mafia activity in the city. He was assassinated by unknown assailants and the backlash against the Italian community was hysterically racist. Suspicion fell on the Italians in the community and ten were arrested and put on trial for the crime. The mayor of the city had made an announcement to the press that "We must teach these people a lesson they will not forget for all time." All ten of the men were acquitted. However, after the verdict, a mob of 5,000 angry New Orleaneans stormed the jail and shot the men to death in their cells.

In "Restriction of Immigration"(Atlantic Monthly, June, 1896) Francis A. Walker warned that vast inpourings of southern European immigrants threatened to overwhelm and thereby degrade American culture and institutions.

According to Walker "for nearly two generations, great numbers of persons utterly unable to earn their living, by reason of one or another form of physical or mental disability, and others who were, from widely different causes, unfit to be members of any decent community, were admitted to our ports without challenge or question. It is a matter of official record that in many cases these persons had been directly shipped to us by states or municipalities desiring to rid themselves of a burden and a nuisance...while yet the patriotic American of to-day may properly shrink in terror from the contemplation of the vast hordes of ignorant and brutalized peasantry thronging to our shores...The arrival in the United States, between 1830 and 1840, and thereafter increasingly, of large numbers of degraded peasantry created for the first time in this country distinct social classes, and produced an alteration of economic relations which could not fail powerfully to affect population. The appearance of vast numbers of men, foreign in birth and often in language, with a poorer standard of living, with habits repellent to our native people, of an industrial grade suited only to the lowest kind of manual labor, was exactly such a cause as by any student of population would be expected to affect profoundly the growth of the native population. Americans shrank alike from the social contact and the economic competition thus created. They became increasingly unwilling to bring forth sons and daughters who should be obliged to compete in the market for labor and in the walks of life with those whom they did not recognize as of their own grade and condition. It has been said by some that during this time habits of luxury were entering, to reduce both the disposition and the ability to increase among our own population. In some small degree, in some restricted localities, this undoubtedly was the case; but prior to 1860 there was no such general growth of luxury in the United States as is competent to account for the effect seen. Indeed, I believe this was almost wholly due to the cause which has been indicated,--a cause recognized by every student of statistics and economics."

According to a 1911 study of the US Immigration Commission, the new immigrants "...has been largely a movement of unskilled laboring men who have come from the less progressive countries of Europe...They have...congregated together in sections apart from native Americans and the older immigrants to such an extent that assimilation has been slow." Citing from the racist book The Passing of the Great Race, a book by Madison Grant, the Commission stated: "The new immigration contained a large and increasing number of the weak, the broken, and the mentally crippled of all races drawn from the lowest stratum of the Meditarranean basin and the Balkans, together with hordes of the wretched, submerged populations of the Polish ghettoes. Our jails, insane asylums, and almshouses are filled with human flotsam and the whole tone of American life, social, moral, and political, has been lowered and vulgarized by them."

European Immigration to the US:

1841-50: 1.6 million

1851-60: 2.5 million

1861-70: 2.1 million

1871-80: 2.3 million

1881-90: 4.7 million

1891-900: 3.6 million

1901-1910: 8.1 million

1911-20: 4.3 million

1921-30: 2.5 million


Dr. Larry Laughlin, appointed as consultant to the House Committee on Immigration and Naturalization in 1922, provided support to the anti-immigrant propaganda, by stating in testimony to congress that Italians, Slovaks, Russian and Polish Jews had three times the insanity rate of American natives.

Today, about 10 percent of U.S. residents are foreign-born, far short of the 14.7 percent who were foreign-born in 1910.

Posted by: cyberland2005 | November 10, 2007 11:06 PM


Romney Wants to Penalize Cities Declared Immigrant Sanctuaries But Forgets His Own Grandparents Fled to Mexico for That Very Reason

It seems that Governor Bill Richardson isn't the only presidential candidate with a Mexican-born parent. Republican candidate, Mitt Romney, can technically claim Latino heritage as well. His father, George Romney, was born in Colonia Dublán, Galeana, in the Mexican state of Chihuahua.

George Romney, father of Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney.

The elder Romney was born in a Mormon colony on Mexican soil that his parents had fled to, for lack of a better word - sanctuary.

That's why, it's rather ironic that Mitt, being the son of a man whose family fled to Mexico for sanctuary reasons, would authorize a plan to slash funding for American cities that declare themselves to be immigration sanctuary cities.

Mitt's campaign is mailing Iowa Republicans a mailer explaining his plan. One quote from the mailer says:


"When America's major cities -- like New York, San Francisco and many others -- adopt sanctuary city policies, they serve as magnets for millions of illegal immigrants to cross the border and take advantage of these legal protections."

Funny how history has a way of repeating itself in the most unexpected way.

According to the book, Mormon Colonies in Mexico, published in 1938,

"In the 1880s, as a precondition to granting Utah statehood, the United States government enacted laws to put a stop to the Mormon practice of polygamy."

Those who continued to practice this principle were forced underground as federal marshals roamed the territory searching for "polygs." In response, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints looked for safe places to send its members; many found refuge across the border in Mexico.

The book recounts how the Mormon polygamists soon had grown so tired of the constant pressure from the US federal government that several Mormon leaders discussed "surrendering at the same time, overwhelming the government with the proposition of jailing them all."

Instead, several hundred families made their way to Mexico and established several colonies. The book further states that local Mexican citizens and state officials in the state of Chihuahua tried to drive the polygamists out but they were spared by the Mexican federal government.

The Mormons lived in relative peace with their Mexican neighbors until the Mexican Revolution. Then their settlements were overtaken by the rebels and in 1912 the decision was made to send tthe women and children back to the United States.

Very few if any of the Mormon population in Mexico ever took a decided interest in Mexican politics. They were content to be left alone to look after their own affairs, their chief aim being to build up and beautify their homes and subdue the wilderness that their children and unborn generations might come into inheritances of which they could be proud. At the time of the exodus, their aim had been well nigh achieved and the thought of being permanently uprooted and the earnings of a lifetime left to others had never entered the minds of these industrious and frugal people. Always, they had indulged the belief that Mexico was to be their permanent abode and with that thought in view they had builded well.

Posted by: cyberland2005 | November 10, 2007 11:04 PM

Romney as governor of Massachusetts, did nothing to stop Cambridge & Somerville, which have proclaimed themselves to be sanctuarie cities, he increased the budget in Massachusetts although he promised not to during his campaign for governor, he claimed in 2007 he's for One Strike, You're Ours: lifetime GPS tracking although in 2002 he favored mandatory sentencing and three strikes. This guy is a majorly weak, flip-flopping candidate with nice hair.

Posted by: dlwellskc | November 10, 2007 4:09 PM

win1-That was a BullsEye!

See, the previous Wave of hispanics we knew before the Mid Eighties were mostly refugees from the Revolution. They assimilated because they could not go back!
They were better educated than their previous Countrymen and as such targeted by the Revolutionaries.

The latest waves are the Revolutionaries. To them ussurping wealth has already paid off at least once! The mass Amnesty of Millions of Law-Breaking Opportunists with deep loyalties to their Home-Land and no Burned bridges, was a Colosal Mistake!

THEY became the Spearhead of the great "La Invasora". They are not the same as the Hispanics we had known before them.

They, are thinking "Reconquista" because for Them, Revolution is their way up!

Me, I do not like the Revolutionaries as much as I liked the ones they stole from before targeting ME!

Posted by: rat-the | November 9, 2007 3:23 PM

Politicians and Americans for that matter should take a look at "American Harvest." Its a non-partisan feature length documentary about immigration as it relates to agriculture. It presents the facts as they are without political bias.

http://www.americanharvestmovie.com

American Harvest Synopsis

Anti-immigration sentiment sweeps across America. A journey from Florida to New York, including a trip to the Mexican border, reveals the lives and issues of legal and illegal migrants and farmers working toward a better life. Is the immigration system in America flawed? Immigrants are dying to feed America.

American farmers and agriculture rely on immigrants to do jobs that Americans won't do or feel that are simply beneath them. Some only see the problems in the news from the perspective of those extreme points of view of the left and the right side of our political system.

Discrimination of immigrants has existed in the United States since the English persecuted the Irish. It was once generally considered that if you were Greek or Southern Italian you were not white.

American Harvest points out the inconsistencies of the current policy on immigration. See the changing face of immigrant America as it relates to Agriculture.

Follow legal and illegal farm workers and the farmers caught in the middle of a flawed immigration policy.

Posted by: nyfilmmaker | November 9, 2007 2:57 PM

This I have to say something about.

"By adding the caveat that "legal immigration is great," Romney appears to be trying to reassure Hispanic voters who have grown wary of the Republican Party's aggressive use of the issue."

Its fine to be Hispanic, and even Hispanic American, but as voters it needs to stop being "Hispanic Voters" and start being "American Voters" (American meaning US voters in this case).

If the Hispanic Voters are so far out of main stream with the rest of the country on this, so much caring about only their own ethnic group, then is what you are saying is that we really do have a problem, perhaps to the point where we need to set low quotas on "Hispanics" in general. I really do not want to go there. I would rather that they become part of us instead of focusing on themselves, look at the larger picture of this country.


Posted by: win1 | November 9, 2007 2:51 PM

Housing costs go up if we stop illegal immigration?

I think not. Remember a couple of years ago, all the PR about Citibank and Acorn working together for a mortgage program for the "undocumented"?

So all those "undocumented" get mortgages. Demand increases the price of homes.
Times get hard, loans default (how many of these defaults are undocumented? we don't know) We do know citibank is one of the companies.

Illegal immigration and weak mortgage practices could have very well contributed to overinflation of the housing prices.


Posted by: win1 | November 9, 2007 2:46 PM

Help4Mac-Anyone who owns a Home in this sliding Market should welcome increased values!

As far as any employers scamming on Illegal Labor in the services-Those prices are adjusted to market. Employer of an illegal Saves, Community Pays!

The Employer is still going to try to get as much for that Steak Dinner as he can!


pfalduto-Picture this:

Temporary assignment available! 10% Commissions on $1,000 Fines! Commissions paid for Tickets handed out to Un-Documented Workers-Right to question any employee anywhere working!

Any Takers?

At a $100/ Pop, or a Mammacita if that's the case, I could get rich in a week!

Load up a Camera, hire a witness-or Partner, and start grabbing Hundred dollar Gifts like they are going South in less than a week!

Because they will be!

Posted by: rat-the | November 9, 2007 2:35 PM

Illegal Aliens and Immigration is NOT the same thing. 80% of the American people want an end to anarchy!

Illegal aliens are criminals, those who hire them are criminals and those who aid-and-abet them are criminals.

Illegal aliens in America have NO rights. We are required by law to arrest and prosecute, deport them. (Title 8 U.S. Code) To report illegal aliens call the DHS National Hotline 1 866 DHS 2ICE. (1-866-347-2523)

No, matter your political party affiliation, and setting aside your thoughts on issues. We all need to remember what it is to be an American Citizen. We need to make sure our elected representatives obey their Oath of Office and keep their Oath of Allegiance. See http://tinyurl.com/2znnvl Know whom you are voting for.

Posted by: DrColes | November 9, 2007 2:18 PM

Romney likes legal immigration? Great, he should.

So how will he reform the system so we have more legal and less illegal immigration?

We don't need to "stop illegal immigration" we need to "reform our immigration system from to bottom with both carrots and sticks."

But that won't fit on a bumper sticker.

"Getting tough" will be as successful in this case as it has been in the "War on Drugs."

Posted by: pfalduto | November 9, 2007 2:16 PM

Steelwheel1-What sense does it make to block the Border when 200 miles inland, San Antonio, and Austin Texas are SANCTUARY Cities?

You are correct that if enforcement continues to only occasionally target a Meat Plant here, or a Construction Site there, that there will be a hell of alot of complaining!

What needs to happen is a TOTAL enforcement, that during a lull in the economy, like is poised to happen could allow, to correct the ENTIRE Picture!

Yeah, it will sting for a short painful period. Fortunately, the one's it will sting the MOST, are the one's guilty of the crimes themselves!

Honest, Law-Abiding Contractors such as myself, will feel it the least! I do NOT use Crews filled with illegals! I am one of the one's suffering because I am not!

Death to my Competition that does! Bloody Painfull Death!

I have suffered too much for too long!

For all the Idiots out there-You think you are doing so great supporting Illegals with $10/Hr? Destroying our-Make that YOUR communities and Hospitals Etc.?

You could call an Industrial Temporary Labor Hall, get an INSURED, DOCUMENTED, EMPLOYABLE and PAYROLLED Temporary Worker who is KNOWN, and recorded, for @ $12/Hr.!!!

Feel like a blithering Idiot Yet? If you like the reliability of this legal member(S) of a Lawful society, and eventually want to hire them, usually after 30 days, you can!

There are many people who are Struggling to get better wages at the lowest end, BUT, becuase so many Idiot Employers are into trying to scam a few dollars, they are being trapped because the never ending flow of illegal competition keeps stealing their way up!

Listen to ME on this! My Family has operated Industrial Labor halls my whole life!

The two worst things that ever occurred to the poor-Day Labor Assemblies that facilitate Employment of undocumenteds, and the Moronic decision by a Libbie judge giving Homeless people the right to squat in Communities!

In Houston, or just south thereof, was the "Pea-Farm". Transcients, Junkies, Alcoholics and anyone else down and out, were once picked up and sent there! Even though they would occassionally nabb one or two of our Regular Workers(Long Drive to Pick them up!), WE Applauded the Concept!

See, it was FORCED Re-Hab! The People were Dried Out, Gotten used to working and being productive again, given Money and New Clothes, and released with a Fresh Start to try to get back up on their feet!

When the moron Judge shut it down, he turned Homelessness into a way of life and a hopeless trap that eventually leads to the demise of the trapped!

Off subject, but I wanted the Truth of a pair of Stupid decisions known!

Too many People don't know enough about the issues they try to judge to properly make a good judgement.

There is many times, more than meets the eyes, especially if what you are seeing is through the Eyes of the MSM!

Back to Subject-Flood every Job Site everywhere with Federal, or Federally approved Agents to check EVERY Workers ID's at least once a week!-Granted that might be too much of a Dream come true, BUT, it would get the garbage stopped!

Bottom Line, IF, an Employee is able to CASH his PAYROLLED Check, He, or She, has the ID required to Work!

Anything else is Illegal!-Inflation caused by Increased Wages? Compared with rising Taxes due to all the freeloaders and Gas-

BRING IT ON!

Posted by: rat-the | November 9, 2007 1:54 PM

Who here wants their house prices to go up? Demand for the goods and services to go up?

Do you really think Romney is going to do anything?

Be a sucker and vote Republican!

Posted by: help4mac | November 9, 2007 1:32 PM

slogan: "No human being is illegal" reality: being human is not the issue.

slogan: "Jobs Americans don't want to do" Reality: Im a legal American citizen, and I and whole high schools in N. Maine let out during potato harvest. Its how a lot of us got the money for college. I learned to fly airplanes...raking blueberries.

slogan: "Without illegal immigrant workers our produce and low-end service industries would collapse" Reality: what if my business couldn't survive without me dealing illegal drugs? Find another business to be in if you can't cut it legally.

slogan: "America was built by immigrants" Reality: thats true...legal immigrants.

slogan: "This is just another wave of immigrants discriminated against. Its all discrimination!" Reality: these are illegal immigrants. Legal immigrants are welcome (Im from China, btw).

slogan: "We can't deport 12 million people!" Reality: no need to...they will self-deport when the corrupt business owners stop offering them jobs. After all, they self-deported from their own countries to come here in the first place.

slogan: "Its too hard to deal with the illegal immigration problem, and to secure our borders" Reality: so loosing your son, daughter, or spouse in Iraq for this country is easier? Secure this country that they and the others before them fought and died for.

slogan: "Considering what happened to the Native Americans, ALL immigrants are illegal!" Reality: it just goes to show you what happens when you fail to enforce your sovereignty as a nation - you lose it.

Posted by: bushieisa | November 9, 2007 1:30 PM

rat-the,

I agree with you on everything you written except that Mitt Romney should be the one America should trust to enforce the law.

Mitt is drawing a lot of money, human brain power, and institutional business support from the same people who own the businesses that you so eloquently pointed out are violating the law and should be held accountable.

I doubt seriously that Mitt will do anything to hurt his business relationship with these law violators. After all, Mitt's business and political success is due in large part to his ability to call on the very business owners who are violating the immigration laws.

Take in Mitt's propensity to having numerous epiphanies that leads to him changing his "principled" position whenever he wants something new and you will have a recipe of more the same with a Romney Administration.

But let me be clear, you are RIGHT about how this issue should be handled:

(1) Fine the hell out of the businesses that
violates the law.

(2) Streamline the current legal process for citizenry for EVERYONE desiring to enter this country legally.

(3) Build fortress along our borders
(4) ENFORCE the law vigorously

Posted by: SteelWheel1 | November 9, 2007 1:17 PM

80% of the American people want an end to anarchy!

Illegal aliens are criminals, those who hire them are criminals and those who aid-and-abet them are criminals.

Illegal aliens in America have NO rights. We are required by law to arrest and prosecute, deport them. (Title 8 U.S. Code) To report illegal aliens call the DHS National Hotline 1 866 DHS 2ICE. (1-866-347-2523)

No, matter your political party affiliation, and setting aside your thoughts on issues. We all need to remember what it is to be an American Citizen. We need to make sure our elected representatives obey their Oath of Office and keep their Oath of Allegiance. See http://tinyurl.com/2znnvl Know whom you are voting for.

Posted by: DrColes | November 9, 2007 1:09 PM

.
Romney: "As President, I'll oppose amnesty, cut funding for sanctuary cities and secure our borders."

Nice - no Conniving Calculating Cackling Clinton double-talk here. He's got my vote!

.

Posted by: ImpeachNOW | November 9, 2007 1:04 PM

That a Lawn Care company he used employed illegals?-THAT is PURE SLEAZE!

Try almost EVERY Lawn Care Company in this frigging Country with more than 10 Employees does!-Who the Hell is stopping them and checking? So, as far as the Employers are concerned-Why Not?

THAT is the Issue. Immigration is NOT!

Pull the Trucks over, check IDs, FINE the Employer $1,000 for Each Employee that cannot verify legal working status, and THE MAGNET FOR ILLEGAL WORKERS IS GONE!

For all the TRULY STUPID!- LEGAL IMMIGRANTS ARE NOT WANTED! Illegals, that can be paid under the Table and that have no rights to overtime, un-employment insurance, Worker's comp, and do not cost Employer taxes or require Payrolling are the DEMANDED PRODUCT!

Legalize the 20,000,000, and they will just get shoved aside for the NEXT waves of "USABLE" Un-Documenteds!

It is an EMPLOYMENT SCAM!!!!!!

Then, adding Insult to Injury, REALIZE-

$10/Hr to an Un-Documented is $10/Hr Take-Home! For a 50 Week-$500! OVER $2,000/ Month!!! Not too shabby!

For a Documented Worker being Payrolled to bring Home the same-$16-$17/ Hr!, Now add Employer and Payroll costs-The Employer would have to spend $20!!!!

Idiots and Fools on this issue-THAT is a HUGE amount of money that should be getting fed into our Infrastructures that is NOT!

THAT missing revenue, is WHY our Country falls further apart with every single additional Job lost to the CRIMINAL System of EMPLOYMENT!

That, you FOOLS, is WHY the American Middle Class is DYING! Our wages have become Stagnated, our communities flooded while revenues fall behind, our hospitals ripped off instead of employers covering injuries incured in their work Etc. Etc...

MITT ROMNEY IS INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO REALIZE IT, and Promises to make it stop!

He has my full suport! Changes are only needed in the ENFORCEMENT aspect of the Laws we already HAVE!

Repeat after me-Enforce our Labor Laws, Enforce our Labor Laws, Enforce our Labor Laws...

Keep saying it until SOMEONE begins to actually do it, and then watch the MAGNET creating the Illegal Invasion get turned around!

Then find Nancy Pelosi, get her to cough up HR:1940-Birthright Citizenship Act, Pass it, make it retroactive to 2000, or BB(Before Bush) and remove that unnescessary SECOND Nationality so the DEPARTING Invaders can feel free to take their Tax Burdens with them!

Posted by: rat-the | November 9, 2007 12:17 PM

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