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Clinton Campaign Volunteer Out Over False Obama Rumors

Updated: 8:00 p.m.

Hillary Clinton's campaign asked one of its volunteer county coordinators in Iowa to step down after the person forwarded an e-mail falsely stating that Barack Obama is a Muslim. Obama is a Christian and attends Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, but chain e-mails have been circulating throughout his campaign that falsely describe him as a Muslim.

"There is no place in our campaign or any campaign for this kind of politics," said Clinton campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle in a statement that was posted on the liberal blog Daily Kos this morning.

"A volunteer county coordinator made the mistake of forwarding an outrageous and offensive chain e-mail. This was wholly unauthorized and we were totally unaware of it. Let me be clear: No one should be engaging in this. We are asking this volunteer county coordinator to step down and are making it clear to every person involved in our campaign that this will not be tolerated."

The coordinator was not named in Solis Doyle's statement. The Clinton campaign's statement, which noted the claim has been "investigated" was in response to a posting on Daily Kos from a person who identified himself as a Dodd supporter.

"Over the past week or so, I have received two of the most hateful hit pieces on Obama parroting right wing talking points," the person posted on Daily Kos yesterday afternoon.

"One was forwarded to me from a Clinton county chair. The other was from a person who claimed to be a former Obama supporter, but a little work with Google revealed she had been posting pro-Clinton comments for several months on websites covering the campaign. They both repeat the Obama/Osama crap, and the "madrassa" charges. And there is the conclusion that Obama is a mole whose intention is to make a Muslim revolution in the US. I have replied with factual citations and a suggestion that those people are doing their candidate no good by spreading the hate."

A conservative magazine reported earlier this year Obama attended a madrassa, a kind of Islamic school, a charge that was untrue. CNN actually met with officials at the school who said it was not. Obama himself has publicly denouced the false charge that he is a "Muslim plant."

Liberal bloggers have also seized on letter to the editor that appeared Nov. 28 in Oskaloosa Herald, an Iowa paper. It was written by another person who identified herself as a Clinton supporter, although the person doess not appear to have any formal role in the campaign. Tammy Sparks of Oskaloosa quotes direclty from of the e-mails that people are receiving about Obama that are littered with falsehoods alleging that he is Muslim and hiding it. Sparks concludes "even if your thoughts are not on Hillary Clinton to be the next president of the United States, PLEASE don't let your thoughts stop on Barack Obama!"

Later in the day, Obama responded to the e-mail controversy.

"I just think that the Iowa caucusgoer is looking for an honest and real debate about their issues - health care, education, how kids are going to finance their way through college, how do we keep jobs here, solving the immigration problem and getting our troops home from Iraq," he said in a statement. "If other folks want to engage in those kinds of small-time tactics then that's their prerogative, but that's not what we're going to focus on."

--Perry Bacon Jr.

By Washington Post editors  |  December 5, 2007; 4:26 PM ET
 
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Hey Christian Right!
Obama might just change your mind. Considering the slim pickings you have to choose from in your own party. How about choosing someone with REAL CHRISTIAN VALUES. Check out the most influential speech on Religion's role in politics in 40 years. I think more than a few values voters will switch over. Watch it here:

http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid463869411/bctid416343938

Posted by: mageduley | December 9, 2007 12:07 PM | Report abuse

OK, good, Perry Bacon debunked the rumor. Just one question: How many eyeballs does page A01 get? And how many eyeballs for this little blog? Of those bloggy eyeballs, how many come from Kos or another blog that picked up on Bacon's original rumor spreading A01 article? ()

Is this to correct the original article, or to get traffic to this blog?

Posted by: bonyfingers | December 5, 2007 11:06 PM | Report abuse

"according to islamic law, he is still a muslim by birth, accepting the 'faith' or not."

While this may be a fascinating tidbit in the few countries in the world where Shari'a is in effect (Saudi, Iran, and Sudan, as well as a few provinces in Nigeria), given that Obama is a practicing Christian, his pastor confirms his membership in a Christian church, and he has lives as a Christian almost all his life, I'm not sure how that has any relevancy.

You're also missing one key issue-- it's not that Obama would be considered Muslim by shari'a law. He actually wouldn't. He would be considered an *apostate*, since he professes Christianity. You can't even get that part right.

"it really doesn't matter what you or i believe...it's what the other side believes."

And this statement is the most befuddling. How does that matter at all? Saying Obama is a Muslim is false, by all accounts.

Goes to show that the Republican chain-mail forwarders are perhaps the least informed segment of the electorate.

Posted by: constans | December 5, 2007 8:21 PM | Report abuse

muslim is the new racism. The conservative fools who spout hate with trying to make all muslims out to be evil is basic racism. just as it's used for cover and/or code for outright racism against Obama.
any thinking person who realize this was the 1960s. there was no jihad or madrassas. there was no call to kill the western infidels back then. just like our religion was in the place it should be - church and not in our politics.
obama's father did not believe in religion and his step father attended only once in a great while. And, again, it was the 60s.
But, the people who want to be narrow minded bigots willfully forget this and want to spread this because they want any excuse available to be outwardly bigots.
What a shame because most muslims are indeed just like you and me. they just want to live in peace, raise their family and have a good life. they don't hate and they don't want to blow up anyone.
And if anyone thought about it, the terrorists are usually young men in their teens and 20s and looking for the same things that young men here are looking for when they join a gang. Terrorists are a gang and they commit crimes like gang.

Posted by: vwcat | December 5, 2007 7:54 PM | Report abuse

tomchaps wrote..."Most Muslims accept as a Muslim anyone who has publicly pronounced the Shahada--something Obama, as an evangelical Christian, has not done..."

A single honest recitation of the shahadah in arabic is all that is required for a person to become a muslim...as they entered areas, they had a 'convert or die' policy...making it relativley easy to 'become muslim'. that did not apply to born muslims, although reciting the prayer daily is a sign of submission and acceptance of 'god'

according to islamic law, he is still a muslim by birth, accepting the 'faith' or not.

Posted by: dachef1 | December 5, 2007 7:36 PM | Report abuse

This is sickening. Firing this staffer does not bring back all the thousands perhaps millions of those emails and the effect they might have had on certain less informed voters. This is so clinton-esk. I would not be surprised if this was a planned back-room strategy.

Posted by: zb95 | December 5, 2007 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Nice job Jade finding the full story. In a certain way, Hillary doing Obama a favor having this stuff ventilated now, Obama needs to innoculate himself, since if he is nominee, he will get far worse from GOP.

Posted by: merganser | December 5, 2007 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Perry, I appreciate how you presented this entry..clearly indicating this email was a depiction of false rumors and substantiating it with the facts that are verifiable. I posted over here last week. Thank you.

Posted by: maelisa | December 5, 2007 6:57 PM | Report abuse

it really doesn't matter what you or i believe...it's what the other side believes. if you represent the liberal left, and are all for tolerance, i sure do not see it here. i personally don't care if he's a muslim, christian, jewish or even mormon. there are alot of other reasons not to vote for him or hillary, and religion is not at the top of the list.

Posted by: dachef1 | December 5, 2007 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Whoever posted that information was incorrect. My bets are that they were a Republican spreading bad word. Anyways, even if Obama was a Muslim, it doesn't matter because he is the best choice for president. He is for peace, while Clinton and Edwards plan on "keeping troops in Iraq" when they are elected.

Posted by: ccschlichting | December 5, 2007 6:55 PM | Report abuse

OK Colin Powell, Clarence Thomas, Dr. Conoleezza Rice, Us Conservatives are going to NEVER let you get beyond your Places! We are going to keep you DOWN where you belong!

Just forget about ever amounting to anything!


Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton said so!

Posted by: rat-the | December 5, 2007 6:49 PM | Report abuse

The better reporting on this story comes from the AP by Nedra Pickler: it's straightforward and doesn't have the taint of Perry Bacon on it. It also names the woman who forwarded the email, Judy Rose, one the recipients, Gary Hart, and the spokesperson from the Iowa Clinton campaign who is responding locally, Grace Zimmerman (not national campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle).

{QUOTE}WASHINGTON - A volunteer Iowa county coordinator for Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential campaign has resigned after forwarding a chain e-mail that suggests Barack Obama is a Muslim who wants to destroy the United States by being elected to its highest office.

Obama is a member of the United Church of Christ and has never been a Muslim.

A hoax e-mail that has been widely circulated suggests Obama is some sort of Manchurian candidate for Muslims.

Judy Rose, a Clinton coordinator and Democratic Party official in Jones County, Iowa, forwarded it without comment to eight people on Nov. 21. Rose referred requests for comment to one of the recipients, Grace Zimmerman, who serves with her on the Jones County Democratic Central Committee.

Zimmerman said Wednesday that Rose sent it to the members of the committee to "show people how dirty politics is" and did not agree with the content of the e-mail.

"Oh heavens no," Zimmerman said in a telephone interview. "She just wanted the people who were concerned with the politics of Jones County to be aware of it."

Zimmerman said the Clinton campaign never talked to Rose about why she sent it but simply demanded her resignation after another one of the recipients decried the e-mail in a post on the liberal blog Daily Kos.

"There is no place in our campaign, or any campaign, for this kind of politics," Clinton campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle said in a statement Wednesday. "A volunteer county coordinator made the mistake of forwarding an outrageous and offensive chain e-mail. This was wholly unauthorized and we were totally unaware of it."

According to a release on the Clinton campaign Web site, Rose is from Anamosa, Iowa, and served on Clinton's Women's Leadership Council.

The Obama campaign declined to comment on her resignation.

The e-mail that Rose forwarded points out that Obama's father and stepfather were Muslim and that Obama lived in Indonesia for part of his childhood. But other parts of the e-mail are false -- Obama attended public and Catholic schools in Indonesia, not a radical Islamic school. It is also not true that Obama used the Quran instead of the Bible when sworn into office or that he ever "admitted" to being a Muslim.{ENDQUOTE}

Mr. Bacon shouldn't think that his relatively tame reporting on this redeems him from last week's disgrace. How shameful, he and his editors didn't have the prescience to dig a little deeper and hold off on printing the salacious. If they had, they would have ended up with a much better front page story that instead of being a cold rehash of rumors, would have been fresh, factual reporting of the campaign.

BTW, Dan Balz, this is what we're talking about.

Posted by: jade7243 | December 5, 2007 6:48 PM | Report abuse

B Hussein Obama's father, Barack Sr, a member of Kenya's Luo tribe, was a non-practicing Muslim. according to Islamic sharia law, Barack IS a Muslim, even though he practices 'Christianity'. like it or not, to a Muslim, HE IS a Muslim.
Posted by: dachef1 | December 5, 2007 05:21 PM

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since neither Kenya or Indonesia or Hawaii or the United States are under Sharia Law.

your point is Moot. Moot I say !

Posted by: x429960 | December 5, 2007 6:39 PM | Report abuse

dachef1, are you using Cat Steven's "Father & Son" as the basis of your understanding of Islamic law? Most Muslims accept as a Muslim anyone who has publicly pronounced the Shahada--something Obama, as an evangelical Christian, has not done. Sheesh.

If you applied your rationale more widely, ALL the presidential candidates would have to make Romneyesque speeches about their religion, given the LDS' retroactive baptisms, right?

Posted by: tomchaps | December 5, 2007 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Oh, I think little Perry knew what would make his editors put his story on the front page earlier this week: Make it sound salacious... and unfortunately, these days, "muslim" smears count. Don't ever actually come out and say the smears are false, though. Len and the boys want a controversy to drive traffic to their blogs & c. Plus it has the added bonus of maligning a Democrat, which makes The Establishment Powers happy, to boot. This little blog post is yesterday's dog's breakfast for those of us who were incensed that the vaunted WaPo would stoop so low in their ongoing attempts to control the conversation. Well, I for one am not rendered kittenish by this ploy. It actually makes me angrier... how many times can Perry write the word "false" next to "rumor" above, yet he couldn't find the energy (or journalistic ethics) to do so even once on A01? Shameful.

Posted by: lgraham1 | December 5, 2007 6:25 PM | Report abuse

river485 said, "This is another example of the kind of racial, and gender prejudice that Obama and Hillary would be saddled with. There is no escaping it, EVER. As long as they would be in office, their race and gender would be used to thwart the good that they might do, and progress in America.

This is one of the reasons I like the idea of Edwards. He does not carry racial and gender baggage, and is more likable than Hillary, and more experienced than Obama, and will be for the people.

Electing Hillary would be a HUGE mistake, and I am afraid racism will be exploited fully by the Republicans, and that Obama would lose a general election.

MAKE NO MISTAKE: racism and gender prejudice are very strong and deep rooted: deeper rooted and more powerful than our ability to consciously set them aside. Many people are not even interested in setting them aside."

Are you kidding me? We should vote for Edwards because he doesn't carry racial or gender baggage??? You can't be serious?Until the US can cross the racial and gender barrier for the country's highest office, discrimination and racism cannot begin to be truly transformed in this country.

Whether a candidate is a woman, African American, Caucasion, Hispanic or Purple is not a reason to vote. Being an informed participant in the process and voting for the candidate you believe can best serve the country is what this is about. Civics lesson ended.


Posted by: EKruse | December 5, 2007 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Last time I checked the Constitution specifically prohibits a religious test for public office. Real, True, Patriotic Americans who support the Constitution would never consider a person's religious beliefs as a necessary qualification for office. Only extreme religious zealots.

Posted by: thebobbob | December 5, 2007 6:10 PM | Report abuse

dachef1 - It's already been well documented that these rumors are nonsense and to give this credibility is beyond ridiculous. You know these type of crap rumors come out and all of a sudden "The freaks come out at night."

Posted by: Aaryck | December 5, 2007 6:05 PM | Report abuse

I find it intriguing that this issue of religion in Obama's campaigns keep coming back again and again even when we thought it was settled once for all. When Senator Obama ran for senate I posted this note to answer his critics

03.05.07 abel Oriri:
Senator Obama is a christian. I am an evangelical christian minister in Ohio and happen to know the Obama family because I am related to him. Senator Obama is a christian and not a muslim. I had answered this question in article which I sent to a Chicago newspaper when he ran for the senate and I thought the issue was settled.

Please contact me if you have any question regarding his christian faith.
God bless you

Rev. Abel Oriri, Pastor/Christian counselor

Heights Fellowship Church
Cleveland Ohio

Posted by: aoriri1234 | December 5, 2007 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Bacon:

Thank you for noting that the rumors were "FALSE."

Too bad this was not on A01, though I realize you don't control story placement.

Posted by: lambert_strether1 | December 5, 2007 6:02 PM | Report abuse

I would not vote for Hillary. Not because she is a woman but rather because I see her as a vindictive, corrupt, dishonest politician. I would not vote for Obama. Not because he is Afro-American, but rather because I think his politics are too far to the left. So the person who insinuated that to be against Hillary is sexist, or to be against Obama is racist, is full of (you know what)

Posted by: gmagrey | December 5, 2007 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Perry Bacon...you, sir, are the guy who added to this Obama smear by your front page story in last weeks post.

Good to see you are now "balancing" that. However, this is a blog entry. Get it on tomorrow WaPo front page please.

Posted by: MajorMan | December 5, 2007 5:51 PM | Report abuse

To Dachef1: you are a disgusting person!

You capitalize (screaming) HE IS, and then you continue with 'a Muslin.'

Why don't you shove your hate rhetoric up your kazoo, and then go join the Nazis or the KKK.

Posted by: jrgonzalez2 | December 5, 2007 5:50 PM | Report abuse

mibrooks27...islamic law is islamic law...the religion passes from father to son, regardless whether they practice christianity or not...it MAY be twisted, but the koran is very specific on this point. to a muslim, b hussein obama IS a muslim. and, by way, im neither muslim or christian.

Posted by: dachef1 | December 5, 2007 5:45 PM | Report abuse

After Bacon's piece, the least the Post can do is run this on the front page. Hopefully, you will do so in tomorrow's paper.

Posted by: GordonsGirl | December 5, 2007 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Wait a minute. Didn't Hillary say Obama's campaign was using "dirty tricks" because they "heard" a couple of phone calls from people who "might be" Obama supporters made some rude phone calls?

Now someone that IS associated with Hillary's campaign DID do something worse? Hillary certainly didn't know or condone this, but doesn't she have the experience to know this sort of thing can happen during a campaign. I think the answer is yes and she was trying to SMEAR Obama's campaign yesterday. So, what are we to think about Hillary? False accusations. That's smearing, right. It wasn't the email. It was her accusing Obama of dirty tricks when its not true. Now what can she say?

Posted by: DanFromTX | December 5, 2007 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Look for a landslide for Barack Obama in Iowa. He is closing in on New Hampshire rapidly. The Hillary campaign keeps making
very costly mistakes.
"This county coordinator is also a member of Clinton's Iowa Women's Leadership Council (see Ben Smith of Politico). Will she be asked to resign from that as well?"
A very good question and a very bone headed manuever.

Posted by: eSPO1 | December 5, 2007 5:29 PM | Report abuse

dachef1 - That's got to be the most twisted excuse for rational thought I have come across in some time. Now, I'm mixed descent - Danish, Black Foot Indian, and Highland Scot. Because my forebearers were Vikings and raiders am I one, too? Get real! Obama is an **EVANGELICAL CHRISTIAN**. He has been one since he was a child.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | December 5, 2007 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Just found this printed in the Washington Post

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Foes Use Bush's Bin Ladin Ties to Fuel Rumors About Him

In his speeches and often on the Internet, the part of George W. Bush's career that gets the most attention is not his presidency but his connections to the bin Ladin family.

Since becoming president in 2001, Mr. Bush, who is not a terrorist, has had to address assertions that he is a friend of Osama bin Ladin or that he had received money from the bin Ladin family, with whom his family has long-standing connections. While his father was President of the United States and his grandfather was a U.S. Senator, the Bush family has had contact with many important Saudi families.

Despite his denials, rumors and e-mails circulating on the Internet continue to allege that Bush is connected to Osama bin Ladin, a "Bin Ladin plant" in a conspiracy against America, and that, before he leaves office, he will carry out another dramatic attack on U.S. soil, as Mohammed Atta, an Egyptian terrorist, did in 2001.

In an August poll by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press, 45 percent of respondents said they would be less likely to vote for a candidate for any office who has ties to Osama bin Ladin.

In Mohammed Atta's case, his ties to Osama bin Ladin led to a successful terrorist attack on U.S. soil.

"There is no reason to think that Bush has ties with Osama bin Ladin" said James Baker, former Secretary of State and confidante of the Bush family. "But that kind of thing provides talking points for political detractors."

Bush aides sharply disputed the initial stories suggesting that he was collaborating with Osama bin Ladin in planning a new terrorist attack, and in the White House, his staff keeps a letter, signed by five members of the Saudi Royal Family, vouching that the President never met Osama bin Ladin. Aware that his ties to the bin Ladin family remain an issue, Bush has denied a separate charge: that he helped carry out the attacks of September 11, coordinating the planning with Osama bin Ladin while still Governor of Texas. This rumor stemmed from a report that ran on a liberal website, which has since been discredited.

"If I were connected to Osama bin Ladin, I would let you know," he said in Dubuque, Iowa, recently, according to CNN.com. "But I have never engaged in terrorist activities. To the contrary, my presidency has been dedicated to fighting the war on terror."

In the past few months, Bush has actively touted his opposition to terrorism, particularly in South Carolina, where the White House hosted a tour to appeal to opponents of terrorism. He describes his movement from a proponent of a "humble" foreign policy to one that opposes terrorism around the world.

An early rumor about Bush's ties to bin Ladin came from Michael Moore, a liberal documentary film-maker. Moore charged that Bush had "spent at least four years planning the attacks of September 11, working alongside Bin Ladin in Afghanistan." Moore attributed this detail to background information the Clinton campaign had been collecting.

After Bush denied the rumor, Moore said Bush's "concealment and deception was to be the issue, not so much his Bin Ladin ties," and he suggested that the source of the Bin Ladin rumor was the Clinton campaign. The Clinton campaign denied the charge.

Mother Jones, another liberal magazine, published on its Web site a package of articles called "Bush's ties to bin Ladin Exposed." One of them was titled "The First Bin Ladin President?"

James Carville, a liberal activist, wrote in Mother Jones that "given Bush's politics, it will not be hard to present him internationally as someone who understands the Bin Ladin family, and thus will be able to smooth over the hostility between bin Ladin world and the West -- our first bin Ladin President."

Liberal talk-show hosts have occasionally repeated the rumor, with Amy Goodman noting Bush's "background" in a "bin Ladin family meeting in Saudi Arabia" in 1998, and Al Franken saying in September that he occasionally got "confused" between George W. Bush and Osama bin Laden.

The rumors about Bush have been echoed on Internet message boards and chain e-mails.

Bryan Keelin of Charleston, S.C., who works with an organization of churches there, posted on an Internet board his suspicion that Bush collaborated with bin Ladin in planning the September 11 attacks. "I assume bin Ladin instructed him on the ways of being a terrorist," said Keelin, who described himself in an interview as a liberal Democrat who will vote for Illinois Senator Barack Obama.

"The bin Ladins have said they plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out," says one of the e-mails that was posted recently on a blog at WhiteHouse.gov, the White House's Web site, by a Bush supporter who warned of an attempt to "slander" the President. "What better way to start than at the highest level, through the President of the United States, one of their own!"

Another e-mail, on a site called Snopes.com that tracks Internet rumors, starts, "Be careful, be very careful." It notes that "Bush takes great care to conceal the fact that he has ties to the bin Ladin family," and that "since it is politically expedient not to be a terrorist when you are President of the United States, Bush denied his ties to the bin Ladins to help purge any notion that he is still an active terrorist."

A CBS News poll in August showed that a huge number of voters said they did not know of Bush's ties to the bin Ladin family, but among those who said they did, 7 percent thought he was a terrorist, while only 6 percent thought he opposed terrorism.

"The underlying point is that if you can somehow pin bin Ladin on him, that would be a fatal blow," Hooper said. "It's offensive. It speaks to the rising level of anti-bin Ladin feeling in our society."

Bush's advisers say they are not worried that the president will hurt his administration by invoking his connections to the bin Ladin family. "He understands that there are scurrilous attack e-mails going on underground that distort his family's business associations, but his judgment is that he trusts the American people more than that," said Karl Rove, a top Bush strategist. "He genuinely believes. . . . that people want to have a president who opposes terrorism' "

Posted by: ff3003 | December 5, 2007 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Oh, I think it serves the **VOTERS** quite well, thank you. The candidate's spin machines are who are being ill served. I take that as a good thing. I hope that the candidates take note of this (especially the Clinton and Guliani camps) and spare us the character assassinations and machinations.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | December 5, 2007 5:23 PM | Report abuse

b hussein obamas' father, barack sr, a member of kenyas' luo tribe, is a non-practicing muslim. according to islamic sharia law, barack IS a muslim, even though he practices 'christianity'. like it or not, to a muslim, HE IS a muslim.

Posted by: dachef1 | December 5, 2007 5:21 PM | Report abuse

To "river845",

At some point this country has to face its shameful past. We need to defeat sexism and racism; there is a reason Obama and Hillary are the front runners. It is because this country wants so badly to move beyond the status quo of the WASP in power. Bush has badly maligned the reputation of the Southern White politician. This is partly the reason why Edwards isn't catching fire. He's a southern white male, and democrats are - in a very idealistic way - looking for the anti-bush.

Don't let sexism or racism deter you. We have to face it and defeat it as a nation.

To "Perry Bacon Jr.",

Very interesting to see that you wrote this piece. Good Job Perry. You had really messed up with your last front-page article stoking the rumors about Obama. Hope you will continue to redeem yourself.

Posted by: Rapcetera | December 5, 2007 5:18 PM | Report abuse

This county coordinator is also a member of Clinton's Iowa Women's Leadership Council (see Ben Smith of Politico). Will she be asked to resign from that as well?

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1207/Clinton_staffer_on_antiObama_email_chain.html

Posted by: RollaMO | December 5, 2007 5:14 PM | Report abuse

CLINTON SLEAZE WILL INVIGORATE GOP, DISPIRIT DEMOCRATS AND SINK DEMOCRATIC TICKET
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It is possible that Senator Clinton is the best candidate. However, even though many may like the policies that Senator Clinton proposes, they should also consider her record, just as Senator Clinton insists.
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The last Clinton Administration, when faced with the fact that protection rackets where assaulting, torturing and murdering people with poison and radiation, chose to avoid its responsibilities to incarcerate the criminals and to protect the citizenry.
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Instead, they made a deal with the criminal gang stalker protection rackets to leave them alone and to consequently abandon the citizenry.
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Do we want a President who sells out the citizenry for votes?
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Do we want a President who sends a \"crime does pay\" message to society?
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Would you vote for a President who signed nonaggression deals with the KKKlan or the Nazi party? Gangs that torture with poison and radiation are much like the KKKlan and Nazi Party.
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We do not need a sellout President. We need a principled leader President.
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If you are one of the few who do not know what the above refers to, do a web search for "gang stalking" to see the tip of the dirtberg. Please do it before you decide to reply to my post. Here let me make it easy for you: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22gang+stalking%22.
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Posted by: avraamjack | December 5, 2007 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Clinton's campaign manager appears to keep her just as alert to what's going on as George W. Bush is kept alert on Iran by Mike McConnell.

However, it's possible that neither Bush nor Clinton wanted to know too much too soon....

Posted by: FirstMouse | December 5, 2007 4:48 PM | Report abuse

News for Dec.5, 2007

Obama channels JFK

Hillary channels Nixon

Posted by: gobanana910 | December 5, 2007 4:38 PM | Report abuse

This is another example of the kind of racial, and gender prejudice that Obama and Hillary would be saddled with. There is no escaping it, EVER. As long as they would be in office, their race and gender would be used to thwart the good that they might do, and progress in America.

This is one of the reasons I like the idea of Edwards. He does not carry racial and gender baggage, and is more likable than Hillary, and more experienced than Obama, and will be for the people.

Electing Hillary would be a HUGE mistake, and I am afraid racism will be exploited fully by the Republicans, and that Obama would lose a general election.

MAKE NO MISTAKE: racism and gender prejudice are very strong and deep rooted: deeper rooted and more powerful than our ability to consciously set them aside. Many people are not even interested in setting them aside.

Posted by: river845 | December 5, 2007 4:38 PM | Report abuse

WaPo helped further this smear last week with a front page story. Yesterday it, and other so-caled papers of record, more than willing helped circulate the allegation that Senator Obama's Campaign was engaging in "dirty tricks" with rude phone calls, whatever the hell that means. But today it is shown with conclusive evidence that a Clinton staffer is engaging in a racist and xenophobic smear of Senator Obama and it gets burried???

Posted by: NMP1 | December 5, 2007 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Why of course Barack Hussien is not Muslim, he gave it up for Lent!

LOL!

Posted by: rat-the | December 5, 2007 4:34 PM | Report abuse

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