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He Shoots -- But Will He Score?

By Shailagh Murray
It reads like a cross between "Hoosiers" and "Chariots of Fire:" Sen. Barack Obama, playing pick-up basketball with a Sports Illustrated writer, in a style he can only hope transfers to the campaign trail.

Obama and SI correspondent S. L. Price played one-on-one in a gym in Spencer, Iowa, and the result was a short but revealing portrait of the Democratic candidate.

Here are a few Obama basketball facts:

  • As a teenager, he had a poster of "Dr. J", Julius Erving, on his bedroom wall
  • He first dunked at age 16...but it didn't happen often
  • He considers the basketball given to him by his father to be the absentee Kenyan's greatest gift to him, and calls the game itself "my first love."

    Here's an excerpt:

    Obama hits two jumpers to go up 3-2, and I remember what Michelle told me: "He's very good at the last minute."

    "All right," I say coyly, flipping him the ball. "This is for the presidency...."

    He drills a 19-footer, heels barely leaving the ground. "Did you hear me?" I say.

    "Why do you think I hit it?" he says.

    I back him down twice to tie 4-4. He drains two more, but I swish one to cut it to 6-5. Now Obama closes in, blocks my last shot, grabs the ball. He shuffles out wide, turns and sets, face blank. I thunder toward him, arm outstretched, feeling suddenly like Hillary and Edwards and anyone else in Iowa trying desperately to stop Obama's rise.

    The ball drops through the net like a stone.

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    Wow! I leave for the evening (we had a great dinner and movie), and look what happens here -- I'm attacked from both the far-left AND far-right -- I must be doing something right ; )

    Posted by: JakeD | December 27, 2007 11:06 AM | Report abuse

    Barack Obama has outlined his vision of American leadership and his approach to national security policy in major speeches delivered in April, October, and December as well as in his article in Foreign Affairs. He understands that, in the 21st Century, America's security and prosperity is inextricably linked to the security and well-being of people in far-flung parts of the world.

    Obama, however, has gone beyond broad vision to share with voters detailed plans:

    Posted by: FebM | December 27, 2007 9:58 AM | Report abuse

    Love Obama, He gives us so much hope in the future of Our Great Nation.

    shoot, so was MLK, even Reagan.

    I'm not suprised to see so many trying to shoot down this rare talent with their
    hateful, unthoughtful and fanatical spews.

    They invoke, his kindergarten essays, admitted youthful indiscretions, attack
    his faith, whats next? His race?


    Posted by: jsu4193k | December 27, 2007 7:15 AM | Report abuse

    Love Obama, He gives us so much hope in the future of Our Great Nation.

    shoot, so was MLK, even Reagan.

    I'm not suprised to see so many trying to shoot down this rare talent with their
    hateful, unthoughtful and fanatical spews.

    They invoke, his kindergarten essays, admitted youthful indiscretions, attack
    his faith, whats next? His race?


    Posted by: jsu4193k | December 27, 2007 7:12 AM | Report abuse

    i agree with the person who wrote about Hillary not being respected by the press. I also think that most of the personal attacks are men who are intimidated by strong women and young women with no living experience in regards to her choice of staying in her marriage. Believe me...after what she has been through and how she has been personally attacked ...she is one strong women. I have doubts about obama. So many "present" votes in the Illinois senate when they appeared to be tough issues that would expose where he stood. He appears to deliver...."lets all get along"...and due to that ..displays his lack of experience in the real world of government. That attitude and belief works fine for a community worker...but is not a credential a president needs. A president needs to take tough stands on tough issues. They need to be a leader. Hillary Clinton also has an excellent resume. She taught constitutional law, was a brilliant college student, and has been working in Children's and Women's issues since her days in collge. She was given the position of revamping the educational system in Arkansas...and did it with great success. Her health care plan did fail...and she admits she learned something from that experience. She learned that all need to be brought to the table and the country needs to be ready for it. Senator Obama wasnt even a member of Congress when the vote was taken. He did not have the same information as those who voted did. His talking points in the speech he gave...where the same Dick Channey had given at the end of the first Iraq invasion. Those were not original ideas...and I believe most feared those points. Can it be that maybe the blame belongs on those who twisted the facts to suit their own agenda....those whose interest lays in oil?

    Posted by: anne9 | December 27, 2007 3:17 AM | Report abuse

    A good response to some of the ugly comments above is in the Sports Illustrated article:

    "'It reminded me that race is complicated, that people are complicated, that you could have ugly strains even among people who were otherwise decent.... It does not necessarily mean they're bad people.'"
    -- Barack Obama

    Barack's openness about his past is unusual among politicians and jarring to some. It is also part of what makes him the ideal candidate to be President.

    Whether you watch him on the campaign trail, observe him play basketball or read his books, his character shines through. He is open, honest, confident, focused, hard-working, thoughtful and wise. He is different from all the other candidates and has the judgment and character this country need in its next President at this critical time.

    Posted by: edhere | December 27, 2007 3:17 AM | Report abuse

    Oh what clever puns, Shailagh. Senator Obama has written two books that have been #1 best sellers, where he was totally honest about his young life. What have you written, Shailagh? Anything besides negative inflammatory drivel? Senator Obama's writing has moved hundreds of thousands to follow him because it reveals his integrity, principles and strength and motivates people to hitch themselves to something greater than themselves. Anyone can see by the disgusting posts typed here what your writing motivates. Shameless job!

    Posted by: Katy7540 | December 27, 2007 2:31 AM | Report abuse

    undecided? try narrowing the list be eliminating questionable candidates like drug users, cross dressers, cult leaders, baptist preachers, ufo observers, lesbians and libertarians.

    Posted by: cakewalk | December 27, 2007 12:29 AM | Report abuse

    Ohhhh LOL! So all you think you know a racist think you have me pegged?

    LMFAO! You are all probably so young, you have to fantasize about what racism even was!

    Here is an old one from an Old one, to let you all know how it used to be!

    See, once upon a time, this was considered popular humor!

    Now, I consider it to be a Historical Archive to give so many of you a lesson in history!

    Allow me to qoute my Uncle:

    "I don't have anything against people like Barack Hussein Obama, I think everyone aught to own at least two or three!"

    That folks, is what we have moved beyond!

    Posted by: rat-the | December 27, 2007 12:23 AM | Report abuse

    Go, Obama! Go, Obama! Go, Obama! Go! Show the idiots of the world (like JakeD and Rat's Ass) that the cream (of the crop) does rise to the top. It is about time that thinking Americans elect a brilliant, honest President. No more lying idiots like the one we have in the White House right now.

    Posted by: | December 27, 2007 12:05 AM | Report abuse

    jakeD is a complete fake.

    Posted by: willallison_2000 | December 26, 2007 11:54 PM | Report abuse

    and for any oxyRush/GOP-types out there just spoiling for a fight, remember that neither barack's nor hilary's mistakes ever resulted in 7,000 dead Americans. (9/11 + Iraq)

    just imagine: you get EVERYTHING wrong while doing your job and seven thousand people DIE. wow. what a loser W is.

    we need a man of new vision like barack obama. desperately

    Posted by: travs6584 | December 26, 2007 11:36 PM | Report abuse

    This was a great article, especially the full version. The only place Hillary will defeat Obama is in the metaphor of that final shot, "feeling like I'm Hillary stopping Obama's rise..." It's cute, and it's all in good fun, and it's all in Imaginationland. So enjoy that part, JakeD (had to get my mention in there since everyone else is getting distracted by your book excerpts). It's the only time you'll get to read about Hillary stopping Obama.

    Now what would be *really* fun is seeing Hillary and Barack play 1-on-1 for the nomination. *THAT* would be a story.

    Posted by: xcrunner771 | December 26, 2007 11:27 PM | Report abuse

    whatever jakeDee...but at least barack is honest. hiliary and the GOP boys have SO much to hide.

    1. whitewater
    2. billing records
    3. commodoties profits
    4. vince foster (oh, they'll whisper it...)
    5. monica, paula, the others and what she REALLY knew
    6. travel office

    and that's off the top of my head in 20 seconds. everyone you talk to thinks hilary is the Dems' most beatable.

    why do you think all the GOPers want to face her in Nov08???

    Posted by: travs6584 | December 26, 2007 11:23 PM | Report abuse

    It will be nice to have a president that is honest, that he did admit he made mistakes as a teenager by smoking pot. At least he admitted that he "inhaled", not like a former president that lied about it. He is currently leading in Iowa, NH, SC, Georgia and has cut her lead in California by more than one-half. Hillary can't even decide if she's an "agent of change" or an experienced politician who has been in D.C. for 14 years. By the time she decides, it will be over and he will have scored the big one, the election.

    Posted by: GraceMN | December 26, 2007 11:08 PM | Report abuse

    Quoting csylvada: "I don't trust the "pretending to be holier than thou crowd" politicians who eventually seem to get caught cross dressing, having gay sex in airport bathrooms, cheating on their spouses and being closet pill popping alcoholics. Generally the hypocritical conservative christian right."

    You spoke what I am perpetually sick to death of - the hypocrisy of the conservative christian right-wingers.

    Posted by: sherirogers | December 26, 2007 10:40 PM | Report abuse

    a puff piece irrelevant to governance. your pea brain must be buzzing, shailagh.

    Posted by: mtera001 | December 26, 2007 10:36 PM | Report abuse

    This thread has nothing to do with pick-up basketball and has been seen as a forum to hash over whatever drugs anyone may have used before going to work at a real job. Any philosophising is obfuscating: the only reason to smoke pot, snort coke, or drink wine, is to feel good. In the case of wine one can argue that wine greases the gears of society. Thew same cannot be said for the other drugs. Jesus's first miracle was at Cana; why do the Southern Baptists serve grape juice in church?

    Posted by: pmroddy | December 26, 2007 10:24 PM | Report abuse

    Obama's looking really good right now. I admire the fact he told the truth about smoking weed and I admire the fact he smoked it, perhaps he'll even help legalize it. I don't trust the "pretending to be holier than thou crowd" politicians who eventually seem to get caught cross dressing, having gay sex in airport bathrooms, cheating on their spouses and being closet pill popping alcoholics. Generally the hypocritical conservative christian right.

    Posted by: csylvada | December 26, 2007 10:13 PM | Report abuse

    I guess smart black people scare the crap out of some white folks.You them as stupid as possible. If they happen to be smart, you have to come up with idiotic stereotypes to bring them down, just like the democratic party and HRC. The day of reckoning is near!
    Next time, check your color out of the door.Bring your brains instead.

    Posted by: ednyo2000 | December 26, 2007 10:09 PM | Report abuse

    I guess smart black people scare the crap out some white folks.You like as stupid as possible.If they're smart, you come up with idiotic stereotypes to bring them down, just like the democratic establishment.The time of reckoning is near.Be afraid, be very afraid!

    Posted by: ednyo2000 | December 26, 2007 10:06 PM | Report abuse

    "I'd much rather they be honest about things than pretend to be perfect.

    Posted by: codymeirick | December 26, 2007 06:52 PM "

    Absolutely. I taught both of my sons: if you did it, admit it. It takes a real man to own up to his responsibilities -- even if there are consequences -- than to be found a liar.

    Posted by: winjonnic | December 26, 2007 9:46 PM | Report abuse

    Obama's honesty on this matter beats the evasiveness of our current Dry-Drunk in Chief and Bill "I didn't inhale" Clinton. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone, etc.

    Posted by: alarico | December 26, 2007 9:44 PM | Report abuse

    Barack has my vote - and after the JakeDrivel, another campaign contribution. Money talks, Jake, BS walks.

    Posted by: shilohgun | December 26, 2007 9:41 PM | Report abuse

    "Wow, the Hillary campaign is typing furiously on this post, huh?

    Posted by: julieds | December 26, 2007 06:15 PM "

    Seems so ... doesn't it? The simpletons who keep stressing about his past ADMITTED drug use are so focused on that that they fail to see the real political "smack pushers" sneaking into the back door.

    Posted by: winjonnic | December 26, 2007 9:36 PM | Report abuse

    No wonder we get the leadership we do in this country. Look at the level of political discourse in this country! Think about who gets to vote! It's shameful. This country is just an obese, gluttonous declining ignorant empire full of dullards with no respect for global humanity or the environment. Disgusting.

    Posted by: shahpesareh | December 26, 2007 9:33 PM | Report abuse

    "O.K., so Obama first dunked at age 16 -- when did he first abuse cocaine and, since he already admitted to that during high school, when was that last time?

    Posted by: JakeD | December 26, 2007 05:48 PM "

    Let he who is without sin cast the first stone ...

    Posted by: winjonnic | December 26, 2007 9:30 PM | Report abuse

    The Clintons must be getting REALLY desperate. I'm glad Obama has secret service protection. It's more than Vince Foster had.

    Posted by: barnardj1 | December 26, 2007 9:27 PM | Report abuse

    Great story! Good luck, Senator Obama - you have my vote.

    Posted by: maq1 | December 26, 2007 9:23 PM | Report abuse

    LOL! Being slandered by someone calling himself Steve Boy-ing, somehow just does not bother me much!

    Oh yes, Animosity is the cry of the wounded losers!

    Posted by: rat-the | December 26, 2007 9:13 PM | Report abuse

    A lot of the above comments are sick. At least Obama admitted what he did. Yet those who have asked such questions are have give Bush a free ride on his past drug ue. Did you ask if Bush was still using drugs (including alcohol) when he claimed there were WMD? Or when he has lied about the cost of the tax cuts for the rich, the cost of the prescription drug bill, or the cost of the war (oh, the Iraqi oil exports will pay for it). Not to mention all of the other lies has told(to the UN through Powell, we don't torture, etc.) Stop hatin'. Bama's a good man. And he can probably kick your ass at one on one.

    Posted by: jerrybailey79 | December 26, 2007 9:05 PM | Report abuse

    I don't understand how anybody would want a president who did have have a variety of experiences in their lives, whether it was experimentation with drugs or living in a different culture or knowing what it was like to have to make a rent payment without daddy's money.

    All of these people who seem to want to hold our leaders up to a higher standard then the rest of us, seem to have forgotten why America was formed in the first place.

    I don't like the current President and I never have and I'll tell you why. He was never curious about the world, he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth, and he doesn't believe in learning from his experience, which is by far the most dangerous think about him, and why a majority of people in this country today believe that the country is moving in the wrong direction. Learning from your mistakes makes you a stronger and more compassionate leader. That is what we need in this country today, men and women who will stand up for what they believe and stand down when they learn to do something in a better way.

    Posted by: the4questions | December 26, 2007 9:01 PM | Report abuse

    Hillary is my first choice and Biden my second, but the more insight get into Obama's mind the more I like him.

    It takes guts to admit to what lots of people did when they were young but which everyone pretends they didn't.

    It also takes a first rate mind to be a law professor.

    The bottom line is simply this. Obama seems like a smart guy who is comfortable in his own skin.

    Would he make a good president? Yes.

    Would Hillary be an even better president? Absolutely.

    Will she be given the chance she deserves and has earned through her service in the Senate? Only time will tell.

    One thing is for sure. The press and the public treat Obama with the high level of respect he deserves.

    The press and the public do not do that with Senator Clinton.

    The public and the press treat Sen Clinton in a way that is positively shameful.

    No one, especially a woman, should be treated the way Senator Clinton has been.

    Like the "swift-boating" of Senator Kerry, it should have been nipped in the bud.

    It shows extremely bad manners on the part of both the public and the press.

    She's a Senator, and she's a woman.

    She deserves to be treated with respect.

    Posted by: svreader | December 26, 2007 8:50 PM | Report abuse

    White Rat Man - there is a lab missing an experiment. Did they clone Falwell on a rat or something? I knew they grew an ear but now their obviously growing other body parts too!

    Posted by: sismjs | December 26, 2007 8:48 PM | Report abuse

    We had all experienced the teen years of our life--confused, searching for our identity, wanting to rebel against something.

    Obama has long passed and outgrown his teen years and his experimentation of drugs during that period is no longer relevant.

    It is evident that Hillary's supporters are unable to find anything in present tense to attack Obama, so they have to resort to attack Obama when he was a teen.

    Posted by: tcatherw | December 26, 2007 8:48 PM | Report abuse

    My guess is that JakeD and rat_the aren't working for or against any campaigns. They are probably just jack-offs. The internet is full of them. As for this article, it is pretty silly, and I am an Obama supporter.

    Posted by: steveboyington | December 26, 2007 8:44 PM | Report abuse

    Jake D,

    I don't think Obama has sent thousands of American's to their death? What's GW's excuse? But hey, at least he was "clean" when he made the decision, eh? I hope you feel real good about that. Sleep well. Your Presdident is sober. A raving idiot, insane with power and dumber than a box of rocks, but sober just the same.

    Posted by: sismjs | December 26, 2007 8:43 PM | Report abuse

    I don't care if you did coke yesterday, as long as you aren't an idiot today.

    Posted by: 20yrskinfan | December 26, 2007 8:38 PM | Report abuse

    Come to think of it: Unless we have political dynasties, every first term president will and has been without enough "experience", and had "on-the-job" training. Essentially, Hillary is making the argument for dynastic rule!

    Posted by: rjain13 | December 26, 2007 8:29 PM | Report abuse

    LOL! Da Happa Haole Barack Hussein prbrably knows as much as this Surf Rat, AKA "Prawn Dog", the most common phrase on the Rocks!

    LOL: "Eere"!

    My question to Da Guy-Are YOU Obama, going to push for regulation, and actual Control and Marketing of the Hawaiian Island's largest source of income-Pakalolo?!

    Or, are you just One Nudder F'ing Happa Haole LAWYER?

    Untill some American Bar Association Lawyer breaks from the pack, I'll keep supporting Exectutives who might one day wake up and smell the opportunity!

    It is here, it is in demand, and we would all be a hell of a lot better off, getting the Market out of our Children's hands!

    When was the last time anyone saw a school Kid being recruited to sell bootleg Alcohol, and then ask yourself, who would trust it enough to Buy It?-Tax Savings, or not!?

    Sorry Folks, but I openly admit to being a Hawaiian surf Dog! What do you expect?

    Posted by: rat-the | December 26, 2007 8:24 PM | Report abuse

    Jake D:

    By all means, ask those questions. I double-dog dare you. Ask questions that are obviously rooted in mean-spiritedness and diviseness. Go ahead, turn Obama into an object of sympathy in front of the American people during an election. How much do I owe you and where can I send the check?

    Posted by: dragon2eden | December 26, 2007 8:17 PM | Report abuse

    That's right. We don't know the exact time Obama stopped using drugs (though if you ask me, he's made it pretty explicit... in saying he used drugs in high school and cleaned up his act in college, I'm going to draw some conclusions on roughly the storyline). But has Hillary ever said, "I've never used drugs." Has Dodd or Edwards?

    In not getting super specific in answering these questions, he does exactly how I took it when Bush didn't get super specific about it. When you do, you allow it to become more of an issue. And when you don't think it IS an issue, you're better off giving people the jist.

    If I ever ran for President (I'm not), I'd give people the general storyline and how it shapes me as a person, but I would do the exact same thing.

    Would you tell everyone the exact details? Would you say something to the effect of, "Well, I started using pot at 17 years old. I drank underage starting at 18. I tried cocaine my Freshman year of college, but only at 2 parties."

    I'm sorry... first, that's not going to happen. But it also acknowledges it as something that people should gauge their judgment on. And I don't think it should be. And I don't think Obama or anyone I would vote for should either.

    But that's just me. And many others.

    Posted by: codymeirick | December 26, 2007 8:12 PM | Report abuse

    Gosh, reading the inane rantings of JakeD and his fixation on a non-issue depress me far more than any drug use ANY candidate indulged in. The small minds of our country will be what bring us down. Thanks JakeD for doing your part in bringing that about.

    Posted by: bettycrow | December 26, 2007 8:10 PM | Report abuse


    You are indeed either a paid Hillary shill or a mentally ill obsessive. Get a life, and get a candidate, in that order. You're so shrill, you're almost deafening.

    Posted by: loulor | December 26, 2007 8:03 PM | Report abuse

    Rat-the just came out of the closet and his white sheets and pointy hat are showing! What bit of intelligence did his latest post display? Why call the Senator Obamasama?

    In his earlier post rat-the referred to Senator Obama with just his first and middle name. Would he have done this if his middle name were not Hussein?

    Does anyone think that either of these two "people" are making a contribution intelligent discourse?

    By the way, Bush never came clean about his cocaine use. It was disclosed during his first run for governor but W simply refused to answer any questions about it. This is the standard that jaked holds in such high esteem.

    Posted by: hjackson67 | December 26, 2007 7:59 PM | Report abuse

    For the record, JakeD is a well known troll in the blogosphere. Got tired of being ignored at TPM much, jackass?

    He's not for Obama, he's not for Hillary. He probably is for some person who wants to keeps us in Iraq forever "so we don't fight them over here," but rest assured, he has no interest in actually engaging in a discussion.

    Posted by: elroy1 | December 26, 2007 7:59 PM | Report abuse

    Hey folks - remember the old adage: Don't feed the trolls.

    Posted by: cmss1 | December 26, 2007 7:59 PM | Report abuse

    Oh please,

    W and his brothers did tons more blow than Barack ever did and flew around Texas campaigning in a plane formerly used by the CIA for cocaine shipments:
    " George W. Bush came to be flying the friendly Texas skies in an airplane that was a crown jewel in the drug smuggling fleet of the notorious Barry Seal. Those documents reveal - beyond any doubt - that in the 1980s Barry Seal, with whom the CIA has consistently denied any relationship, piloted and controlled airplanes owned by the same Phoenix Arizona company, Greycas, which in a 1998 bankruptcy filing, was revealed to have been a subsidiary of the same company that owned the now defunct CIA proprietary airline Southern Air Transport.

    The investigation started with a lead into the history of the aircraft (a 1982 Beechcraft King Air 200 with FAA registration number N6308F - Serial Number BB-1014)."

    Should I throw 'Hussein' in here now so that the ignorant posters/readers all scowl? :( That means YOU Clintonites. Google 'Mena airport' if you want to read about the coke days of Billary.

    More importantly, nobody is answering the "When was the last time..." question because it is a non-issue. Just a few years after he stopped using drugs Barack was editing the Harvard Law Review. Somehow I think that he survived his drug days with plenty of brain cells for the work ahead. I can't say that about the man currently in the White House though...
    Since you are dwelling on the oh-so-important issue of addiction, you should be much more worried about W's addiction to Presidential Signing Statements (1100 so far) effectively overriding the checks and balances of our U.S. Constitution.
    Mr. Obama quit smoking cigarettes about one year ago which in the long term is harder than kicking blow or heroin. I know this from direct experience. But don't listen to me though. I've (apparently) disqualified myself from commenting at all or working in the public interest because I did drugs up until 1989.

    Posted by: TAKETWO | December 26, 2007 7:59 PM | Report abuse


    So, if Mitt Romeny "admitted" to bank robbery during his earlier years, that would be O.K. with you too?

    Posted by: JakeD | December 26, 2007 7:52 PM | Report abuse

    So, wait a second -- which one am I being paid by to post here? Hillary Clinton, or Karl Rove?

    Posted by: JakeD | December 26, 2007 7:50 PM | Report abuse

    Let he who is without sin throw the first stone.
    Let's focus on issues that actually affect us as American people, not disecting every candidates ADMITTED mistakes during their earlier years.

    Posted by: imarimarcel | December 26, 2007 7:44 PM | Report abuse

    My general response to Republican dirty tricksters like jaked and rat-tah is to ignore them. I am also usually loath to get down into the mud with callers like these two but their comments demand a response.

    Jaked and rat-the are not addressing legitimate issues but are following a script first written by Nixon operatives and later updated by Lee Atwater and Karl "Boy Genius" Rove.

    Why would anyone raise the questions that Rove disciple jaked asks? Obama, unlike jaked's hero Bush, admitted his youthful indescretions. Why does it make any difference what Obama did in his teenage years? His academic record from high school on is a string of unbroken accomplishments. Have jaked or rat-the reached such lofty heights as making Law Review at Harvard Law School? If jaked had half a mind, or more correctly, had more than half a mind, he would realize how unlikely it is that Senator Obama was using drugs while in college or law school.

    My question to the mud-slinger jaked is: What has the good Senator done that would lead us to believe that his self-admitted drug use was anything more serious than that engaged in by countless other confused youth? What behavior has he engaged in subsequent to high school that would mark him as unqualified?

    Rat-the is just expressing his or her dislike for non-warmongers that have the termitity to disagree with right-wing othodoxy. And he is clearly being disingenuous when he says that Senator Obama can or should be on the Supreme Court. His true views are probably more likely to be that Obama should be in chains in a field picking cotton.

    Posted by: hjackson67 | December 26, 2007 7:42 PM | Report abuse


    That doesn't mean he stopped doing drugs during college (and later). For all we know, it could mean he "got serious" about abusing drugs. George Bush gave us the specific year he STOPPED. See the difference?

    Posted by: JakeD | December 26, 2007 7:29 PM | Report abuse

    OK, YOU Guys brought this up, so...

    IF, "White" men can't Jump, how do Happa Haoles(Halve White)?

    Can Obasama only half Jump, jump half the time, or does it depend on whether he takes after his mother, or father?

    Inquiring Minds want to know!

    Posted by: rat-the | December 26, 2007 7:25 PM | Report abuse


    "I will confess to you that I was kind of a goof-off in high school ... I made some bad decisions that I've written about. There were times when I got into drinking and experimented with drugs ... There was a whole stretch of time when I didn't really apply myself a lot."

    Obama said that his childhood in Hawaii was largely spent playing basketball and thinking about girls, and that it wasn't until he went to college that he realized he'd "wasted a lot of time."

    "By the time I was a junior or senior in college, I got really serious. In fact, I was so serious that my mother told me to lighten up, because I'd become a complete grind -- fortunately over time I got a little balanced," Obama said.

    That's good enough for me... just as Bush's answers to these questions were good enough for most people in this country.

    It's really just not the type of thing I judge a future President on.

    Posted by: codymeirick | December 26, 2007 7:18 PM | Report abuse

    For the record, I am not paid to post for Hillary Clinton -- if any other candidate admitted to the same drug use, I would be asking them the same questions too -- as for George Bush, I believe he did answer the questions: he was 40 years-old when he gave up tobacco, alcohol and any other drugs in 1986 and became a born-again Christian. Did it take Obama that long?

    Posted by: JakeD | December 26, 2007 7:07 PM | Report abuse

    ...besides, you can ask those series of questions about everyone. Has Hillary answered those questions explicitly? Dodd? Where was Kucinich in the 60s???

    The fact that these people are 45-65 years old and never been arrested for anything (come on, I'm pretty sure if any had, we'd know about it by now), than I think that's good enough for me. When do we start talking about health care for children?

    Posted by: codymeirick | December 26, 2007 6:58 PM | Report abuse

    Everyone please try to hear exactly what I am saying. I think Barack Hussein has a great future possibly culminating in a Supreme Court Justice position.

    He just has NO business in the White House!

    And, as far as Senatorial Reps are concerned, I still prefer the Texas Senators I have!

    Backgrounds in Constitutional Law, and ACLU, do NOT an Exectutive Make-Or a Commander in Chief!

    Posted by: rat-the | December 26, 2007 6:57 PM | Report abuse

    Slimeball posts like those from JakeD make it more likely for me to vote for Obama. As a crusader, did you also write posts about how Bush ran 3 companies into the ground before he became president to run the US into the ground? Thought not. Get a life, and do some good in this world.

    Posted by: nick4 | December 26, 2007 6:54 PM | Report abuse

    I'm no more concerned about Obama's college drug use than I am Bill Clinton's or George Bush's. I could criticize President Bush for many things... but if you ever see me revert to throwing out wild doubts about when he last used drugs, than you can seriously slap me and tell me to stick to things that are important (like health care, the war, taxes, education, etc etc etc).

    The truth is, there's always going to be room for doubts about their personal lives... we don't have eyes on these people 24-7. I'd much rather they be honest about things than pretend to be perfect.

    Posted by: codymeirick | December 26, 2007 6:52 PM | Report abuse

    JakeD, you are simply asking the questions that no one else dares to ask because you are a paid shill for the slimeball Clintons who are so desperate at this point that they will hire a jerk like you.

    Posted by: tbjb | December 26, 2007 6:50 PM | Report abuse

    Question for JokeD: Did the sainted W ever come even close to answering your thoughtful series of questions? Just wonderin'...

    Posted by: jimD118 | December 26, 2007 6:49 PM | Report abuse

    JakeD...Please get a real job. Everyone knows you're trolling for Hillary and you really hate BARACK OBAMA. We get it. But Senator Obama will be a better man than you or any of the other trolls... talking trash from their mommies basements...on his worse day...

    Posted by: tjfrmla | December 26, 2007 6:46 PM | Report abuse

    Talk about an easy layup: "He Shoots -- But Will He Score?"

    Posted by: JakeD | December 26, 2007 6:25 PM | Report abuse

    I'm simply asking the questions no one else dares to ask : )

    Posted by: JakeD | December 26, 2007 6:24 PM | Report abuse

    My apologies...all the above posts were from one person, not the entire Clinton campaign. It was an honest mistake on my part, since I've gotten accustomed to the Clinton's sleazy underhanded politics. JakeD sounded just like Mark Penn for a minute there....

    Posted by: julieds | December 26, 2007 6:18 PM | Report abuse

    Wow, the Hillary campaign is typing furiously on this post, huh?

    Posted by: julieds | December 26, 2007 6:15 PM | Report abuse

    More questions:

    1) Is he abusing drugs now?

    2) If not, when did he stop?

    3) Is he lying about his drug abuse?

    4) Did he do any other crimes to get drugs?

    5) Did he sell / share any drugs?

    6) Does he have any other ongoing addictions?

    Posted by: JakeD | December 26, 2007 6:12 PM | Report abuse

    "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it. Not smack, though -- Micky, my potential initiator, had been just a little too eager for me to go through with that. Said he could do it blindfolded, but he was shaking like a faulty engine when he said it . . . Junkie Pothead. That's where I'd been headed: The final, fatal role of the young would-be black man. Except the high hadn't been about that, me trying to prove what a down brother I was. Not by then, anyway. I got high for just the opposite effect, something that could push questions of who I was out of my mind, something that could flatten out the landscape of my heart, blur the edges of my memory."

    from "Dreams from My Father" by Barack Hussein Obama, p. 93.

    Posted by: JakeD | December 26, 2007 6:00 PM | Report abuse

    As for "will he score" I believe Obama HAS denied ever using smack / heroin.

    Posted by: JakeD | December 26, 2007 5:52 PM | Report abuse

    O.K., so Obama first dunked at age 16 -- when did he first abuse cocaine and, since he already admitted to that during high school, when was that last time?

    Posted by: JakeD | December 26, 2007 5:48 PM | Report abuse

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