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Gender Gap Benefits Clinton

By Jon Cohen
In her Nevada caucus win today, Hillary Rodham Clinton benefited from a sizable gender gap and big turnout from mainline Democrats.

According to the network's entrance poll , women made up 59 percent of all caucusgoers, and went for Clinton over Illinois senator Barack Obama by a wide margin (51 percent to 38 percent).

Independents, a backbone of Obama's support in other states, made up just 15 percent of the Nevada electorate, a lower percentage than in either Iowa or New Hampshire. And while they went for the Illinois senator by a 14-point margin, Clinton had the initial support of 51 percent of self-identified Democrats, a much larger group.

(The entrance poll, conducted by Edison/Mitofsky, did not include ad hoc caucus locations on the Las Vegas Strip.)

Obama beat Clinton by a large margin among those under 30 (59 percent to 33 percent), but Clinton outdistanced him by 2 to 1 among those aged 60 and up, and more than twice as many caucusgoers were in the older age category.

About three in 10 caucusgoers were from union households, with 45 percent going for Clinton, 44 percent for Obama.

Race was also a factor for the first time in the Democratic contest. White caucusgoers went for Clinton 52 percent to 34 percent for Obama, while African Americans broke heavily for Obama, 83 percent to 14 percent for Clinton. Nearly two-thirds of Latinos opted for Clinton.

Both Latinos and blacks accounted for 15 percent of the electorate.

Posted at 4:48 PM ET on Jan 19, 2008  | Category:  The Pollster
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Hilarious. Bill Clinton falls asleep at MLK celebration

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/01/clinton_gets_sleepy_at_mlk_day.php

CLINTON SAYS WE HAVE THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT BECAUSE LYNDON JOHNSON SIGNED IT.

GOLDWATER RAN A CAMPAIGN AGAINST JOHNSON...
SO WHY WAS SHE CAMPAIGNING FOR BARRY GOLDWATER WHO WAS AGAINST THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT???

BY THE WAY CHECK OUT BILL CLINTON'S RACIST POSTCARD HE SENT TO HIS GRANDMA IN 1966 DURING THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.

http://serr8d.blogspot.com/2007/10/bill-clinton-racist-postcard-buy-it-now.html

Posted by: laplumelefirmament | January 21, 2008 10:46 PM

The elephant in the room is that Hillary Clinton can't win men -- she's lost among men in every primary -- and she won't win Republican women. In short; she can't win the general election. Especially not against McCain. Racially biased Latinos bailed her out in Nevada, but they aren't numerous enough to bail her out at a national level. Her gender advantage will disappear as soon as Republican women show up at the polls in droves and start voting against her. At best, Hillary can get elected Chairwoman of the Democratic Party. The Presidency? Nope -- and the fact that the Democrats aren't saying it out loud doesn't mean that the REPUBLICANS haven't noticed. They'd love for Hillary to get the nomination -- it would keep the GOP in the White House for another 8 years.

Posted by: terentz | January 21, 2008 2:25 PM

Note to Obamanistas: the Spanish ad telling Latinos that Bill Clinton was working hard to keep working people from voting, back fired in Las Vegas. You can't be about "hope" while trashing the other candidate. Can you say boomerang?

And strange as it may seem to you, the rank and file Dem likes Hillary.

Note to the standard con Hillary basher: I think you've run your course and done your best. Keep on bashing, but most people tune it out. Maybe when she's in office, you can get some fresh meat, and start congregating in whatever dark spaces you conjure conspiracy theories in.

Until then, ta ta.

Posted by: auntbeth | January 21, 2008 5:22 AM

You have to win more than just women in the general election to win the Presidency. Clinton allergy is a real phenomenon. The Democrats better think long and hard before shooting themselves in the foot with a Hillary nomination.

Posted by: katefranklin | January 20, 2008 5:57 PM

Following are some of the talking points of the Obama campaign and its supporters on these and many other blogs regarding Hillary Clinton along with my responses to them. Every single one of these bullet points could have, and actually HAVE, come straight from the Repuglikkkunt Playbook. These are EXACTLY the kind of things Repuglikkkunts have been saying about her for years. And it's beyond shameful that the Obama campaign, and especially its supporters, have taken a page from that playbook and used it in this election; it's DESPICABLE:

HILLARY AND BILL CLINTON ARE CLOSET RACISTS WHO DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT MINORITIES, BUT ARE JUST USING THEM TO GAIN POWER.

This almost isn't worth dignifying with a response. It has been suggested by none other than Michelle Obama in remarks she made about Bill Clinton's speech in which he said Barack Obama's claim that he has been steadfast and consistent in his level of opposition to the war in Iraq is a "Fairy Tale". She, and Obama, both knew this is exactly what Bill was saying, and rather than going after him on the issue, they spouted spurious charges that Bill Clinton was claiming Barack's entire campaign, and therefore the idea of a black man running for president itself, were a Fairy Tale. They furthermore issued a Memo listing this misrepresentation of Bill's comments as proof of a pattern of racial divisiveness being played by the Clintons. One of Obama's senior advisors, Jesse Jackson, Jr., also delved into this racial hucksterism, when he claimed after the New Hampshire Primary that Hillary's "tears" needed to be analyzed in light of the fact she hadn't cried at the plight of Hurricane Katrina victims. First, how this knuckledragger could possibly know whether she EVER cried regarding the plight of those victims is beyond me. Perhaps he has access to an illegal wiretap Bush has on the Clinton's, who knows. Regardless, his statements are clearly intended to send the message that Kanye West had about Bush; Hillary just doesn't care about Black People. Such an accusation is beyond despicable. This was echoed in Dr. Michael Eric Dyson's comments right after the NH Primary (Dyson, while not a paid staffer for the Obama campaign, is one of his senior surrogates making all the rounds of the MSM attacking Hillary), where he basically accused every Hillary Clinton voter in New Hampshire of being racist. The ONLY racists I see between the two candidates and their supporters are on the Obama side.

HILLARY IS THE STATUS QUO, NOT SOMEONE WHO WILL BRING ABOUT CHANGE.

Hillary Clinton the Status Quo? Spouting this nonsense is PRECISELY why Obama hasn't gained any traction with women. Women know FUNDAMENTALLY that this statement is absurd. They realize that ANY woman is an agent of change, a HUGE agent of change in a political world dominated by men and their testosterone-driven agendas. Add to that the fact that Hillary has been a PASSIONATE advocate for progressive political ideology, fighting AGAINST the growing corporate control of our government and FOR the interests of ordinary Americans for DECADES, and it boggles the mind that someone can actually level such a charge with a straight face. The fact Obama does it shows me he's a first-class actor. He deserves an Oscar...lol

HILLARY CLINTON IS A BOUGHT AND PAID FOR CORPORATE HACK WHO COULDN'T CARE LESS ABOUT THE WELFARE OF ORDINARY AMERICANS.

Hillary's a bought and paid for corporate hack? Yeah, sure...lol Can you POSSIBLY really believe that? Yes, she's taken money in donations from corporations. So what. She's ALSO proven to be a stalwart fighter against their holding more influence in our government than they should. She's fought against the lobbyists tooth and nail. Just because she's intelligent enough to realize that in our current political system she needs money to run a campaign, and will accept LEGAL donations from any corporation as long as they don't expect any quid pro quo doesn't mean she's a corporate hack. It just means she's a very intelligent woman who knows how to win. And this is not to say she's going to try and destroy corporations if she's elected either. She understands they are a part of our nation. She just also understands that they have to bear their fair share of the burdens of our nation, and she will work with them to find a way for them to do so that's agreeable to all without compromising the principles of FIRST PROTECTING AMERICA. To me, the only people who make such claims about Hillary are either just those who hate her guts, or ignorant morons.


HILLARY IS TOO DIVISIVE, AND THEREFORE LESS ELECTABLE IN THE GENERAL ELECTION THAN OBAMA, OR IN FACT UNELECTABLE.

Hillary Clinton, while being PORTRAYED as divisive by the Right-Wing controlled media, who almost to a head HATE Hillary Clinton's guts, is anything but. Her 7 years in the Senate have proven that beyond a shadow of a doubt. She has garnered support from a large portion of upstate New York that is a bastion of the Right-Wing. She's done this by doing what she has done best throughout her life, working for EVERYONE. She may be a Democratic Senator from New York, but as the people in upstate New York realized soon after she was elected, she cares about ALL New Yorkers. This is why she won her second term in the Senate with such huge support statewide.

IF HILLARY IS ELECTED, THE RIGHT-WING REPUBLICANS, AS THEY DID IN THE 90'S WITH HER HUSBAND BILL, WILL BLOCK NEARLY EVERY EFFORT HILLARY MAKES AT PROGRESS.

If Hillary's elected the Right-Wing's going to attack her like they did Bill and tie her hands? Exactly how are they going to do this? They've attacked the Clinton's for decades and failed MISERABLY to gain any traction with their smears. Despite all their vile, hateful efforts, the Clintons, and especially Hillary, were found innocent in the White Water investigation of ANY WRONG-DOING. Despite their level best, their pathetic efforts to impeach President Clinton got them nothing but egg on their face and Bill a 65% approval rating upon leaving office, the highest for a president leaving office since WWII. Bill, since his infidelities of those years, has been a model husband, so I can't see where the sex scandals will come from. Everything about their past has been investigated to death, so that'll gain no traction whatsoever. Are you morons really suggesting Hillary's going to have a tryst with an intern? Face reality, if Hillary's elected, especially with a Democrat congress that should be even stronger (5-7 more Democratic Senators, and possibly 20+ more in the House of Representatives), how in the heck do you see the Repuglikkunts stopping her from getting her policy agenda passed?...lol

The simple fact is, if Hillary Clinton is elected, she is going to bring our troops home as soon as possible in an orderly and effective and safe manner, and END THE WAR IN IRAQ.

The simple fact is, if Hillary Clinton is elected, she is going to return our nation to a course of fiscal responsibility that will, by the end of her two terms, have us well on the way to being out of debt. She will turn record deficits into record surpluses, and guarantee the financial stability of our nation for the next generation. She will create millions upon millions of new jobs, strengthening our economy and thereby our security, by demanding we seek out innovative ways to maintain jobs here in America through new technologies.

The simple fact is, if Hillary Clinton is elected, she WILL secure our borders while not ingratiating herself to hateful, bigoted scum bent on painting undocumented migrant workers as EVIL, ILLEGAL ALIEN CRIMINALS. She will develop and implement a comprehensive immigration reform policy that will make us both safer and stronger, while giving those workers a REAL opportunity at the American dream, allowing them to come out from the shadows of our society where they've been abused by greedy corporations and others who want their labor, but see them as nothing more than animals.

The simple fact is, if Hillary Clinton is elected, she is going to go a long way to repairing our damaged image in the world, is going to work with leaders worldwide to garner far greater support in changing this world for the better than anyone before her, including her husband, and will make this nation safer. This will be done by getting other nations, especially those needed, to address the GREATEST THREAT TO OUR NATION AND THE WORLD, GLOBAL WARMING.

The simple fact is, if Hillary Clinton is elected, we will finally see energy policies that reflect sound science and logical thinking. We will see the greening of our nation, which will be a benefit on so many levels it boggles the mind. Our security will be far greater as we reduce our dependence on foreign, especially Middle Eastern oil, and our environment will be protected.

The simple fact is, if Hillary Clinton is elected, we will FINALLY have Comprehensive Universal Healthcare (including medical, dental, and mental health) for every American. This, in and of itself, along with my belief she will find ways to reduce our healthcare costs in this nation so that this doesn't become an unfounded entitlement in the future, will assure America a prominence in the world it hasn't had in the last 50 years.

The simple fact is, if Hillary Clinton is elected, she will be, in my opinion, and I think the history books will agree with me in fifty years or so, THE GREATEST PRESIDENT THIS NATION HAS EVER SEEN.

Now, Obama can jump on this bandwagon, and hope it carries him to inauguration as president in January of 2017, or he and his supporters can continue to spout this nonsense, especially the accusations that Bill and Hillary are racists, and they'll watch themselves go down in the toilet bowl of political oblivion. It's up to them.

Personally, no matter what Obama does at this point, I will NEVER vote for the man. To me, he isn't fit to be president. Perhaps he'll prove me wrong on that, but I doubt it.

Posted by: hotnuke2007 | January 20, 2008 9:23 AM

Even with the union bosses urging a vote for Barack, nearly two-thirds of Latinos opted for Clinton. That's huge!!!

Posted by: jligayaj | January 20, 2008 7:11 AM

Genitalia and epidermis -- the two main issues in the Democrat primaries.

Posted by: eoniii | January 19, 2008 11:54 PM

The comment that race will be the deciding factor in this election doesn't work. If someone wouldn't vote for Obama in the general election, it's more than likely that they won't vote for a woman this year either, especially when Hillary is as divisive as she is.

The race electability argument just doesn't hold up in this election.

Posted by: kiku | January 19, 2008 9:54 PM

Here's one statement were Obama helps more than Hillary

Jan Nicolay, co-chair of the South Dakota Campaign for Healthy Families, also vouched for Obama's pro-abortion-rights commitment, saying he was the only one of the presidential candidates to send money to aide with a ballot initiative to overturn a nearly complete ban on abortion that the South Dakota legislature passed.

from:

http://women.barackobama.com/page/content/WFOhome#top

Posted by: kiku | January 19, 2008 9:49 PM

You can join Women for Obama at:

http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/womensignup

I know people in states that have already voted can still help with things like phone calls.

Posted by: kiku | January 19, 2008 9:37 PM

laplumel.......,

You are the one who is using scare tactics with all caps as if you're yelling at us. Be a sport Democrat, if your candidate lost just move on. The results speak louder than words and hoopla - it isn't the time yet of Barack, he has to work furthermore to be accepted by all Democrats.

Posted by: Ebucdondimer | January 19, 2008 8:41 PM

The democrats might possibly wind up nominating Obama for president, but if they do, it will produce a 50 to 0 sweep for the republicans in the general election. Racial bias is still alive and well in this country.
Jim

Posted by: jimbrannon | January 19, 2008 7:15 PM

if voters really vote based on whether a person has a penis or vagina between their legs, they deserve George Bush and Hillary

Posted by: dochi1 | January 19, 2008 6:27 PM

Mrs. Clinton and Bill Clinton still know how to get ahead in the polls. Let us hope that Bill does Not find his way into the White House. He is a charmer, for sure, but... we all know where the charm begins and ends.

Posted by: mspolakoff | January 19, 2008 5:30 PM


THEY USE SCARE TACTICS IN IOWA AGAINST STUDENTS...

THEY USE RACE CARD AGAINST BLACKS IN SOUTH CAROLINA...

THEY USE SMEAR TACTICS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE ABOUT DRUGS AND ABORTION...

THEY USE LAWSUITS IN NEVADA AGAINST HISPANICS...

THEY WILL DO ANYTHING FOR POWER!!!!WELCOME TO THE CLINTONS WORLD!!!

HILLARY SUPPORTED GOLDWATER WHO VOTED NO TO THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT.

CIVIL RIGHTS ARE AS IMPORTANT FOR BLACKS AS THEY ARE FOR HISPANICS AND ANY OTHER MINORITY.

Posted by: laplumelefirmament | January 19, 2008 5:30 PM

The world has not changed: gender and race
are important political factors. That, however, cannot take away the fact that Sen. Clinton is the better overall candidate.

Posted by: Liup | January 19, 2008 5:21 PM

interestingly, cohen provides a racial breakdown for blacks and whites only....and not latinos. latinos were heavily for clinton, btw.

Posted by: darrren12000 | January 19, 2008 5:18 PM

I think that it's kind of unfortunate that at the end of day the only thing that determines how people vote is their gender. I hoped that this election would be about issues but it looks like race and gender are the biggest issues that still drive our political choices.

Posted by: DroppedPass | January 19, 2008 5:17 PM

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