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Reagan Question Returns at Debate

By Garance Franke-Ruta
During tonight's Democratic presidential debate on CNN, Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton had a vigorous exchange on his comments to the Reno Gazette Journal on Jan. 14 about Ronald Reagan. Here's what he told them:

Posted at 9:24 PM ET on Jan 21, 2008  | Category:  In Case You Missed It
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hotnuke2007 writes
"Hillary Clinton wasn't falsely claiming anything, thebobbob."

That is not true. As thebobbob reported, Hillary claimed Obama was endorsing Reagan policy, which is not true. She repeated this falsehood in the debate, when she claimed that only Bill had criticized Obama, when she had as well.

Posted by: bsimon | January 22, 2008 10:33 AM

Bill Clinton told a whopper (a big fat lie)the other day in Nevada. Bill claimed/insinuated that Obama's *people* were not allowing Clinton supporters to caucus in Vegas at one or more or the caucus venues. Funny how Bill Clinton keeps lying and the American people keep thinking he's a liberal savior. Bill and his corporatist wife will give us more lies and the liberal base that support the Clinton's will be disappointed yet again by these liars. Bill and Hill will do anything to win... lie, cheat and steal. We need a change in America and Bill and Hill are the same ol', same ol' in Washington. Bill's gonna have his waggin' finger shoved right up his ... (not literally, mind you).

Posted by: dionc9 | January 22, 2008 10:13 AM

Hillary Clinton wasn't falsely claiming anything, thebobbob.

I think Hillary did very well. However, I think she failed on two occasions to really hammer home her point and defend against one of Obama's scurrilous accusations.

First, when she brought up his comments regarding Republican ideas (to which he tried to falsely say she'd just brought up his comments about Reagan) she should not have allowed him to get away with this lame explanation. She should have gone back on the attack and made it clear to the audience and to the people of America that what Obama was CLEARLY attempting to do in that interview, was appeal to Republicans with those comments, whether he was doing it by using slick rhetoric or not. And she should have simply said, "Listen, if you want to appeal to Republicans by SEEMING to praise their ideas, and by SEEMING to praise their most highly regarded president, then go run for the REPUBLICAN NOMINATION. You're running for the DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION, and Democrats DO NOT believe that the Republicans were the Party of Ideas over the last 10-15 years. Democrats DO NOT believe that Ronald Reagan was a president who brought transformational change in a way Bill Clinton did not."

If she had gone that route, she would have destroyed his lame explanation.

Further, she definitely lost an opportunity, mainly because of Wolf Blitzer, to respond to his scurrilous charge that she was a "CORPORATE LAWYER" on the board of Wal-Mart while he was fighting for poor people. She was the First Lady of Arkansas during that period, who just happened to hold an HONORARY membership on the board of Wal-Mart. His claim was a fukking lie. Her claim against him, while very much a very harsh one, was ABSOLUTELY true, regardless of whether he only worked "5 hours" on the actual project. He was part of it, working with a fukking SLUM LORD. That's a FACT. An INDICTED SLUM LORD, who he took a bribe from according to the Chicago Sun Times reporting.

Still, I think Hillary did far better than most would have thought considering the atmosphere of racial division this fukking lying, lowlife, racist piece of shiite named Obama has brought to this campaign.

Posted by: hotnuke2007 | January 21, 2008 11:24 PM

Any politician who didn't pay attention to how the Republican Party, the Bechtel Corporation and the Evangelical movement got Ronnie Raygun elected isn't paying attention. Any politician who doesn't understand how the the Right wing took advantage of the early Clinton blunders (gays in the military; morality; Health care; Big Government) to tie up his administration and gain control of the Congress, won't understand how 21st century politics is going to work. To describe how the Republicans were successful is not endorsing their ideas, as Hilary falsely claims. It's simply paying attention. Shame on the Clintons for the distraction.

Posted by: thebobbob | January 21, 2008 10:53 PM

Obama did so well man.


Hilarious. Bill Clinton falls asleep at MLK celebration

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/01/clinton_gets_sleepy_at_mlk_day.php

CLINTON SAYS WE HAVE THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT BECAUSE LYNDON JOHNSON SIGNED IT.

GOLDWATER RAN A CAMPAIGN AGAINST JOHNSON...
SO WHY WAS SHE CAMPAIGNING FOR BARRY GOLDWATER WHO WAS AGAINST THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT???

BY THE WAY CHECK OUT BILL CLINTON'S RACIST POSTCARD HE SENT TO HIS GRANDMA IN 1966 DURING THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.

http://serr8d.blogspot.com/2007/10/bill-clinton-racist-postcard-buy-it-now.html

Posted by: laplumelefirmament | January 21, 2008 10:38 PM

Democrats kick off final showdown before South Carolina

The top three Democratic candidates jumped into Monday night's debate with a heated discussion about how to stimulate the economy.

Who Won the CNN Democratic Debate in South Carolina?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=1603

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Posted by: jeffboste | January 21, 2008 9:30 PM

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