The Trail: A Daily Diary of Campaign 2008

Thanks to hope4 for your comments about Barack's experience. I'm surprised he hasn't taken on Hilary's much-ballyhooed "35 years" of experience. Exactly what great things was she achieving in 1973? And other than the last 8 years of elected office in her own right, what has she done since 1973, other than be the spouse of a politician (hard work, admittedly, but not exactly leadership training school)? Barack is older than Bill was when he ran for President, and Bill's experience wasn't that great at the time, as I recall - Attorney General & Governor of Arkansas. That prepared him to be a player on the world stage?

I don't deny that Hilary is bright & capable - but she loses in the character category. I am disgusted by how she has allowed Bill to lie & distort on her behalf - he has reminded me that he was the President who tried to twist the meaning of the word "is" to his advantage. Altho I am a lifelong Democrat, if she is nominated, I will not vote for her, even if it means I do not vote in a Presidential election for the first time in 40 years!

So very sad on now Bill Clinton has acted, and Hillary.

My answer is let's recognize what they really are, or rather have become. Remember their new name and persona they have created.

Billary Spinmeister.......use it often! It sums them up for me.

I have been talking to a lot of dedicated Democrats in the last few days who are disgusted with how the Clintons have been distorting the truth lately. These are people who liked and voted for them and supported them through the years. They have no issues with tough campaigning and questioning and challenging Obama on issues based in truth (and there are things that they can fairly challenge him on). But, it is clear that they are practicing the "politics of personal destruction" that they railed against.
If they continue to campaign like this and Hillary becomes the candidate, they may be surprised at the number of us who either stay home on election day in the fall or vote for a candidate of another party (Bloomberg anyone? or even McCain).
And Bill has soiled his reputation irreparably. I'm really disappointed in them. I knew that they were fighters, but I expected better from them. I don't want my first female president to be someone who got there this way.

And, no, I am not a Republican. I am someone who cares that the country elect competent, non-messianic leadership.

Come on, people, stop drinking the Kool-aid. Hillary and Edwards are doing everyone a favor by turning a critical eye on Oprahma, who has been getting a pass for years. Sure, Hillary is an easy target for the GOP, but she's also able to scrap and persevere through their attacks. But people seem to think that Ophrama will "transcend" the attacks -- an idea for which there is absolutely no evidence.
No, we deserve to know what his negatives are, but nobody has ever cared enough about him to look carefully. And when they might have, he voted "Present."

He voted "present" on a bill that would have required school districts to install software to block kids from accessing porn on school computers.
He voted "present" on a bill that would have made it a criminal offense for convicts on probation or on bail to have contact with a street gang.
He voted "present" on a bill that would have prohibited strip clubs and adult video stores from opening within 1000 feet of churches or schools
He voted "present" on a bill that would have enhanced penalties for trafficking in Ecstasy and other designer drugs.

You want to cite the percentage of GOP votes he got for Senate? He was running against Alan Keyes!!! The GOP is going to make mincemeat of Ophrama, and they're not going to back down when his camp tries to spin a racially neutral critique ("fairy tale") as racism.

Edwards for Attorney General

What a racist remark! There just as many scary white guys out there as black - maybe more. And you are a Hillary supporter?! Bill was the first black candidate.

alexandracastle wrote:
you only have to walk down the street and see what happens when a group of hoody covered young black men are on the same side of the street as white females or males for that matter. The white people cross the street, not out of prejudice but out of fear. We have a whole lot to do and a much longer time to go to get it done. A dreamer/orator is not what we need to

You people act like this matters?? why??There is no democratic party-- it is long dead .Even Hubert Humphrey would not recognize the party now and he liked everybody.As for the republicans they have never been much .It took a real democrat named Ronald Reagan to put the republican party on the map by the way how many of you know that Hillary Clinton started her political life in the republican party ? She switched to the democratic party-- ever wonder why she made the change ?

National Democratic Socialist will always lie about Ronald Reagan he was a good president, better than most we have had. However he was not a God-- which is what neo- conservative republicrats would have you believe .The same might be said of Bill Clinton love him or hate him the country did well while he was president . I'm just curious to know how many of you think that , common people selected these candidates to run ? Who was it that knocked on John Edwards and Hillary Clinton's door and asked them to run for president? Where were the massive rallies and public outcry for John McCain or a Baptist preacher name Huckabee ? I submit to you ladies and gentlemen that we the people have little to do with selecting candidates for the local office of dog catcher let alone the office of the presidency of the united states . All of these candidates democratic or republican are just names on the ballot and we are given a choice of voting for one of those names that's it ,that's all there is .until we can change this fact , on a local level why be concerned about the national ? We might need revolution not rigged elections dont you think? No Matter who wins they will serve the people that bought and paid for them and that ain't you or me folks. I look forward to your comments if any.

JOHN DON'T HITCH YOUR WAGON TO THAT DIRTY BUNCH. THE CLINTONS ARE GOING DOWN AND THEY DESERVE TO. YOU'RE BETTER THAN THEM. YOU AND OBAMA, NOW THAT'S A TEAM!

Hillary Rotten Clinton does not deserve to be prez! She is a liar just like Bill is! this country doesent need another clinton in office!!! RUDY ALL THE WAY!!!!!

Do you think the Republicans will use the following information against Hillary in the general election?

http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/397.html

I am a strong John Edwards supporter, but I respect all of the Democratic Candidates and will work my ass off for whomever receives the nomination. Keep tearing each other apart and we will doom ourselves to another 4 years of Rethuglicanism. STOP!! DON'T DO THIS!! They are fine candidates, each and every one. I understand your feelings because Democrats fall in love. But remember, Republicans fall in line. Let's take a lesson here.

firstly 'nasty spat' is overegging things -it was supposed to be a debate and that's what we got. secondly, 'edwards' is a complete bore. thirdly, i am relieved a candidate who received a whopping 4% in the nevada caucus is now receiving so much long-overdue attention.
p.s. love the fear-post by 'alexandracastle' -vote for scrappy-doo!

Some may think it too early, but I think Edwards would be pleased to be VP for anyone. He wants to top chair, that's for sure, but right now, he has nothing.... He sure did not help Al Gore in 2004 the way he should have, but maybe he needs to learn some lessons: it pays to suck up and be nice once in while. For him that means to do so at least until he can get what he really wants: crowning glory recognition. Personally, I would never vote for him.

Folks, Democrats have to work together. We have wonderful candidates for the presidency this time around. Do not ruin a win for whomever is the Democratic nominee. Personally, I would take any one of them over any of the Republican candidates. My own preference is for Hillary Clinton, and I would congratulate her for including Edwards, Obama, Biden, Dodd, and Richardson in her Cabinet. Focus on getting rid of the Bush-Cheney debacle. So far, the campaign has been fairly civilized. Do not give the Republicans anything to use to discredit or smear a the Democratic nominee in the presidential campaign.

"Could Shailagh Murray be any more unprofessional and irresponsible?"

Nope.

A majority of the voters that Edwards still has will most likely go to Clinton if he drops out. They are the lower income white voters.

I don't think that Edwards will endorse Hillary and will most likely endorse Obama, but may Hillary just wanted to say thank you to Edwards for finally being fair in the debate. He finally realized that he and Hillary are actually closer in positions on health care and a number of other issues than is Obama. Edwards may have also realized that it isn't Hillary that he should be mad at but Obama.

Edwards spent two years planning to be the anti-Hillary candidate in the race and then Obama gets in and takes that role. He knew Hillary was going to be in it all along and he planned for that. He just never planned for Obama.

Edwards could take a cabinet position in either a Clinton or Obama administration. That would make sense for him if he wants to continue a public service career. Or he could go to his new 26,000 sf. home and just retire or make more money and spend time with his wife.

People shouldn't make more of the meeting than that these two know each other for many years.

to vitana1900---you are quite an extraordinary piece of work. Keep slandering the Clintons while you can. Perhaps your troubled ego has insurmontable urges to smear someone to derive pleasure in the process. I have seen the worst of human nature and you happen to embody all. I see how insanity means when I read your hate mails. God bless you, God bless America.

to bfont2006---you reminded me the term "buffoon". you can't even tell a joke. Beside hating the Clintons for the sake of hate, what else do you know? your market is gone, go somewhere else. maybe a mental hospital is good for you.

to Colleenca---where have you been all these years? Now you are talking. isn't this what politics all about from day one? will you pretend to be the nice guy in a debate? Isn't Obama doing exactly the same thing to Hillary? His socalled positive campaign so central to his calling simply evaporated as he emerged as feisty as ever. Only through heated debate will bring out the true colors of a candidate. Seeing his twin losses in NH and NV, he of course had to take the low road to counter-attack, just as any politician will do under similar circumstances. How much do we know about Obama as a person? Now as more attention being directed to his intimate relationship with Rezko and his questionable house deal (bought his mansion $300,000.00 below the market value), all the "change", "visionary" aura surrounding this fairy tale candidate will fizzle like a dying star. Who is Obama? ---just another politician capturing the window of opportunity by turning the popular sentiment into his campaign slogan.

Posted by: Anonymous | January 23, 2008 03:01 PM

People please grow up. One of the many definitions of "politics" is:

QUOTE:
use of intrigue or strategy in obtaining any position of power or control, as in business, university, etc.
UNQUOTE

It's also the art of compromise. There is no permanent friend or foe in politics.

For those who derided the writer of this article, I strongly disagree. She has done her job professionally. she did not exhibit or indulge in any inaccuracy. She did the right thing by spotting a scope that is newsworthy.

John Edwards knows very well his road to nomination is a long shot in the face of 2 formidable candidates. He has to recalibrate his candidacy sooner or later whether an early exit or continue to tread on is good for him and his supporters and to the larger picture good for the Democratic Party. We should support whatever decision he is going to make. Whatever position he will be seeking in the Democratic Administration (should they win the presidential election this Nov) has no bearing at this point.
As a Democrat, we should rally behind whoever wins the party nomination if we really want to bring this country back on its feet. we should all leave our hard feelings or grudges behind---unless you are a hardcore Republican who embrace nothing but partisan politics over the well-being of our country and its people.

Clinton-Obama-Edwards better have their acts in order. Otherwise, we will see McCain as our next Prez and Giuliani as our VP! Take a pick. By the same token if Hillary wins then we will have Bill Clinton as an uncrowned VP!

If you watched the body language on Monday night after the end of the debate you would sure not think an Edwards/Clinton coalition was probable. Edwards is not interested in AG and would be much more likely to endorse Obama than Clinton. I think it's a shame that Edwards can't get traction against HRC and Obama because he has the best message.

Hillary is not going to appoint Edwards to AG he is against the Big Corporations who is paying her tab. Hillary and Obama keep up the infighting they will implode and Edwards will be the next President. Go Johnny Go.

Draft Al Gore! The country is in trouble and needs real leadership not hacks.

Listen folks, the system is completely broken. It is obvious that the subprime mortgage fiasco that has caused the stock market to crash, and the upcoming recession(depression?) was brought about by financial institutions interested only in profiteering, at the risk of endangering our entire economy. Those financial institutions, and their irresponsible lending practices were not stopped and never will be stopped by the politicians that were elected using their money. Barack Obama is the only true visionary out there, who has gotten to where he is now in the primaries, raising as much money as Clinton, from folks like me, who donated $25-$100. This is a real American revolution. If we, the grassroots, can unite and fund our own candidate who can capture the presidency, it will be a new day for America. Hard choices will be made. Policy-making will be transparent, and an end will come to back-room deals where politicians can front for corporate interests behind closed doors, watering down any decent legislation that they deem contrary to their corporate handler's profit-interest. The time is now for a real change, and we have never been closer to realizing it. Get onboard. Take back our country. Work for Obama.

STUDY: Obama Has More Experience Than Most Presidential Candidates
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The Big Lie about Senator Barack Obama's experience is put to rest by a new study revealing the actual experience of the leading Democratic and Republican candidates for President.

Of the nine top candidates for their parties' nomination, only three have served as an elected official longer than Senator Obama, the only candidate whose experience has been questioned. Both of his Democratic rivals -- and half of the Republican hopefuls -- have served in elected office for fewer years than Senator Obama.

See: http://www.planningcommunications.com/election/

This is not playing out well here at home or around the World.

I will not vote for a Clinton again, and I will no longer give the Democratic Party a pass any longer.

I am a Black female and a tax payer, so are the rest of my 35 brothers, sisters, neices, and nephews. I will bring them kicking and screaming to vote for a Republican before they vote for Bill/Hillary. Oh!! I am sorry it is really Hillary/Bill.
The sad thing is will we, as American, be respected after November? Or will we be even more divided? Time will tell.
At one point, I was happy about our field, but some how it has become a nightmare.

getalife put it very succinctly'Oblapie needs seasoning and the Oval office is not where he needs to get it.

He needs to get the rehzenko affaire out of his hair or he'll have a ken starr breathing down his neck,

You moronic Progressives put bush in the white house with your Vote for Nader, were not about to let put another incompetent buffoon in the same Place,

The Mason Dixon line fast approaches so does Oblapies waterloo.

Besides john has endorsements from the Major unions and he has to be concerned how they feel about his trying to transfer their clout to someone who cannot possibly win against a determined repukeagain Machine,

I think hes been told to talk to Hilliary so wel watch and see what we see.

Edwards & Obama are the "change" candidates. The Clinton's are acutely aware that Edwards' voters are progressives who would migrate to Obama if Edwards drops out.

Without Edwards' voters, Team Hillary loses. So what, that she approached Edwards? He's not going anywhere, and he if and when he choses to, it sure as hell won't be about throwing his hard won progessive delegates to Hillary.

After watching the attacks upon Obama by Bill and Hillary Clinton I now understand why the Clintons were so hated by the right. I never really understood why they were so disliked before.

I won't vote for Hillary Clinton. Maybe that kind of ruthlessness is what it takes to be effective in politics, but I won't support it with my vote. I won't vote and I will join the large number of Americans who have given up and don't vote in what is a corrupted system.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/04/AR2008010404308_pf.html
"Bush and Cheney are clearly guilty of numerous impeachable offenses. They have repeatedly violated the Constitution. They have transgressed national and international law. They have lied to the American people time after time. Their conduct and their barbaric policies have reduced our beloved country to a historic low in the eyes of people around the world. These are truly "high crimes and misdemeanors," to use the constitutional standard." George McGovern

All the speculators about Edwards' withdrawing should read the letter from Martin Luther King III at http://www.johnedwards.com/news/20080121-mlk-iii-letter.pdf

Edwards isn't going to endorse anyone.

barbann333: what's wrong with Barack's church? As a Christian, he has been a member of his church for 20 years. Oprah Winfrey, as well as other notable personalities, are also members of this church, as am I. The only ones who have criticized his church are Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and Bill OReilly, and their criticism seems to be based solely on an agenda to discredit Senator Obama by discrediting his pastor, a man who seeks to address the concerns of and uplift the African American community, who are the majority of his congregation, through spiritual and political engagement. As far as experience is concerned, our current president has more experience around him than any president has had in recent memory; yet he and his administration have also done more harm to our country than any in recent history. In politics, experience is often synonymous with corruption, and the more experience or years in politics one has, the more corrupted they often are. So maybe it's not experience that we should be looking for. Maybe we should be looking for someone who has the integrity and political wherewithal to transform their hope and vision for a united, prosperous, respected, and secure America into a reality.

"They were catching up, as they tend to do at the events, and probably discussing the evenhanded media coverage of the race," quipped Edwards spokesman Eric Schultz.

What "evenhanded media coverage of the race?" Was it evenhanded that NBC refused to allow Dennis Kucinich to participate in their last televised debate?

What about most of the mainstream media's (MSM) refusal to discuss Kucinich's campaign? Kucinich has more internet support than any of the democrats! Too bad the MSM is too afraid to report on this.

If the Washington Post is going to print articles with such statements, how about a little more "evenhandedness" on your part? Where is the journalistic honesty?

Please people get real

It doesn´t get much more patronizing than that.

Although I hate to think the worst of John Edwards, his aw shucks earnestness and tear-jerking Dickensian tales (if I hear about the "grates" in one more debate I might just...hate!!) make him seem like the "change agent" Washington outsider we can trust but I think we have seen the reveal of who he is. He is also a politician plain and simple and his in-it-to-win strategy hides his real motive: John wants to be the King maker and if he can be Veep - better still. Wouldn't want those dimples and crinkly blue eyes being wasted for another 4 years when he wrests himself from his cryogenic preservation only to get a haircut and run again. If change was what he was after he would throw in with Obama and save our country from a Clinton Coronation and having to relive the Republican UGLINESS that would ensue in the General Election.

Maybe John had some things he thought Hillary needed to hear to her face. It may have had nothing to do with cutting deals.

I think its more likely to see either an Obama/Edwards ticket or an Edwards/Obama ticket when all of this is over.

Bliss:
Alamantra
www.myspace.com/alamantra

I'm with Vitana1900: Even though I'm a lifelong Dem, I'm going to enjoy seeing all of these smug childish Hillary supporters - who constantly taunt anyone who's rightly disgusted by their candidate's amoral campaign tactics with chants of "Hillary hater" - shed very real tears in November when they reap the "rewards" of their cynical game. (BTW, do you people realize how childish you appear with your day-care school-style "Hillary hater" taunts? Is that really something ANYONE over 10 can utter with a straight face?)
You can desperately slam me and the other disaffected Dems all you want: I'm not voting for Hillary over McCain. I have survived eight years of Reagan and eight more of Bush (God help us). I think I can gut out a 4-year McCain term, too - if it means we can finally be rid of the Clintons and their increasingly malignant horde of campaign hitmen, hit woman, hack surrogates, etc. as a relevant force in the Democratic Party. If the Democratic Party needs to be torn down to be built back on better foundation in 2012, I say let the wrecking begin. Go McCain '08

Obama wins endorsement of largest South Carolina newspaper

South Carolina's largest newspaper, The State, endorsed Barack Obama for president today as "the Democrat most likely to unify America."

"We...have a good idea what a Clinton presidency would look like," the paper's editorial board wrote in its endorsement.

"The restoration of the Clintons to the White House would trigger a new wave of all-out political warfare. That is not all Bill and Hillary's fault - but it exists, whomever you blame, and cannot be ignored."

"Sen. Obama's campaign is an argument for a more unifying style of leadership," the endorsement noted. "In a time of great partisanship, he is careful to talk about winning over independents and even Republicans. He is harsh on the failures of the current administration - and most of that critique well-deserved. But he doesn't use his considerable rhetorical gifts to demonize Republicans. He's not neglecting his core values; he defends his progressive vision with vigorous integrity. But for him, American unity - transcending party - is a core value in itself."

CLEAN SLATE ...
BARACK OBAMA ...
'08!!!

Spare me the fear mongering.

Have fun defending the endless Billary scandals.

I am going to stock up on popcorn and watch the Republicans use Andrew Young's comment "Bill has had more black women than Barack" against Billary.

What will he say? I bet it begins with him wagging his fingers at us... "Ahh did not have.......

Scristanti --- "what he did in NEVADA was the worst I have ever seen," -----------

I live in Nevada an d you only saw what you wanted to see. Bill Clinton was only telling it like it was and the rest of you whinny Obama supporters and Republicans posing as Democratic supporters are full of it. You want another Republican in office then go ahead and vote for one. You will get just what you deserve just like all of you that voted for our present moron-in-chief are getting it now. When our country is completely destroyed and we have a world wide depression and you poor misinformed empty headed drones are in the soup lines remember, you caused it...

Obviously few actually watched the end of the debate when Hillary went on another of her completely false smearing binges and said Edwards campaign was populated with corporate lobbyists. Then she started blabbing about how TIRED SHE IS of being called the corporate yes-man by Edwards. She's perfectly correct... because she's the corporate yes-woman.

There is a bimodality to Edwards supporters: 1. Middle and poor whites of rural disposition and 2. Progressives who are left of the political spectrum. His candidates would split on these grounds not in all one direction or the other. The latter absolutely loath Clinton and would rather stay home or vote 3rd party than help Bubba stain the oval office again.

If Hillary enters wins, McCain will destroy her. If Bloomberg and McCain are both alternatives to Clinton, she will not even make 35% of the final electoral votes.

The comments about Ms. Clinton do not compute with who she really is and what she will try to do for our country. I for one am pleased with each of our democratic candidates. I will vote for whomever our party nominates for President over any of the Republican candidates that will continue George Bush's policies that have so debilitated our country. If you want the same neo-con policy that lied us into war and has so weakened our military and our standing around the world keep kicking our Democratic front runners. That's exactly what the Republicans want us to do and you are making them very happy. No matter who we nominate as our Democratic leader I have confidence that they will lead us out of the Bush made quagmire and restore our good name around the world. Even the Republicans that have worked with Hillary in the Senate have admired her work ethic and have praised her for crossing the isle to get bills enacted for the good of the American people. The fact that Edwards talked to Mrs. Clinton is not unusual in a political campaign...keep your shirts on it's done all the time and Edwards is a big boy he can take care of himself. He is not the enemy. But it is certain that if our three top Democratic rivals don't come together at our Convention and resolve, no matter what, to beat the Republican machine that will surly be in major attack mode come General Election time, The next 4 years for the new Republican President will be more of the same war mongering, trickle down economy, saber rattling,stay in the Middle East for the next 100 years crap. As for the Clinton's using race bating that's absurd it's the media that keeps bringing up race not the Clinton's. Don't let the media do your thinking for you stick to the facts. The African American people call President Clinton the first black president because he did so much for their cause. If African American people want to vote for Obama because he is one of their own...great, it's their vote but don't call the Clinton's racist....so not true. Please remember you would never see the Republicans putting forth as their top candidates an African American and a women. This is historical and I am proud to be able to have such a choice.

I am a strong Edwards supporter, and will vote for him in the primaries, although it looks as though Hillary will be the nominee. And although he seems to have more in common with Obama, I can't fault him for signing up as Hillary's VP, assuming there's any truth to this rumor. Their ideologies may not match up, but he will be in a better position to get things done as her VP than he would be as nobody's VP. Is it better to say "I don't agree with her, so I'm going to stay out of it" or "I don't agree with her, but I'll work with her in order to accomplish at least some of my goals"?

I like Edwards and Obama. I am reluctant to vote for Clinton for various reasons. HOWEVER, I will take any of the democrats over any of their Republican counterparts. There needs to be a war crimes investigation of the Bush-Cheney presidency and that won't happen if we elect a Republican.

I am an Obama supporter, but face it...the contest is over and the "evil empire" wins. The Clintons have used race-baiting to successfully marginalize Obama as the "black" candidate -- just another Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton.

And, damn, have the media ever reported that Obama was elected to the U.S. Senate by winning the support of 9 out of 10 black voters and 7 out of 10 white voters in Illinois? He also won 40% of Republicans votes and 75% of independents. Sounds like just the kind of candidate appeal the Democracts really need.

I am a lifelong Democract, but will not vote for the Clintons regardless. The only questions remaining are: 1) Which southern white male -- Edwards or Webb -- will be on her ticket, and 2) how will she deal with the inevitable out-of-control first husband?

Oh for crying out loud. I bet they just let fly with a couple of cathartic FU's and then had a drink. Maybe it was a may the best candidate win meeting.
"No, I'm not going to drop out." he said as he poured another drink.
"Fine", she said. "No more Mr. Nice Girl, then."
"Fine", he said.
"Are you as sick of this as I am? And can you believe the BS that shows up on the blogs?? Gawd...
"You have no idea!"

Somebody needs to fill in the blanks.
The report is merely that "they both walked out of their green rooms after the debate and agreed to talk . . .." After which Clinton went to Edwards' green room. So, who initiated this? Who are the eyewitnesses and why aren't they saying? There is no reason to believe its anyone but Clinton. She's the one who benefits from speculation--at least in the short run. If Edwards endorses Obama after Hillary makes a concerted effort to cozy up to him--that does not look good for her.

Obama does not have the experience to clean up the mess George Bush has made of this country..I love John Edwards..voted Kerry Edwards in the last election, but I think Clinton/Obama in 08 and Obama/??? in 2016 would be the right way to put the US back on track...being a very healthy single female, self employed and paying insurance premiums almost as high as my mortgage, I would welcome some insurance reform and it will take someone as scrappy and sassy as Hillary to "GIT ER DONE"!!!

I would never vote for Obama just because his skin is the same color as mine. Although I do think he is an incredible Candidate and with a few more years would definitely be ready to take on Washington.

AtlantaGa

First, is it true? Second, so what?

This is how politics is played. There have been little chats between Obama and Edwards, now there's a little chat between Clinton and Edwards (maybe.) I wish some of you would stop the one-sided demonizing of your candidate's opponent(s). When this is all over we have to united to beat the republicans. Any of you who are planning to stay at home on ele4ction day if your guy (gal)doesn't win will be flirting with a republican nominating the next 2 or 3 members of the Supreme Court. Sleep well and pleasant dreams.

If the Democrats choose Hillary, they lose independents, like myself, who will not vote for more of the same nonsense.

I'll take anyone but her, and all you partisan hacks can keep tearing each other's hair out all you want.

Hillary/Edwards 08? Not a bad ticket. Remember, politics makes strange bedfellows, although I think Obama has burned his bridges with Hillary with all of his nasty cracks and his posturing as victim.

To the person who suggested that Edwards might throw his voters to Obama. He

can't. His demographics are identical to Hillary's and they will naturally move over to her, not to Obama.

I would like to see John Edwards as our next President, but will vote for whomever gets the Dem. nomination. To Hillary, John, and Barack, get your act together and quit this infighting, the world can't stand another Republican administration.

The Clintons are Republican opportunist,(Dixicrats) just look at the trade deals they passed, throwing millions of middle class workers out of good paying factory job, and sending those jobs to Communist China.
Since Bill started his term, the unions in this nation has gone from 33 percent to 7 percent.

Folks bottom line is this- a vote for Hillary Clinton is a vote for the Republican Nominee. Hillary and Bill represent the most polarizing kind of politics in America- the Clinton administration, let us not forget, gave a fresh agenda to the Neocons......and believe me when I tell you that no one can energize the republican base the way they can. Clinton absolutely cannot and will not win a general election. So I beg all of you female boomers - please try and leave the world better than you found it for we who have our lives to live yet...don't let our dreams slip away because you'd like to see Hill and Bill back in the white house. We dont need to throw this one to the republicans again. We need you to vote for a president that can inspire and lead the people, who can effect change from the bottom up- who can mobilize each of us to make a difference in our world and one who doesnt want to control the nation like its a bureacracy to be managed like so much paper....

That is great. Give more reasons to dislike the Clinton Campaign. Obama '08

Hilarious. Bill Clinton falls asleep at MLK celebration

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/01/clinton_gets_sleepy_at_mlk_day.php

CLINTON SAYS WE HAVE THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT BECAUSE LYNDON JOHNSON SIGNED IT.

GOLDWATER RAN A CAMPAIGN AGAINST JOHNSON...
SO WHY WAS SHE CAMPAIGNING FOR BARRY GOLDWATER WHO WAS AGAINST THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT???

BY THE WAY CHECK OUT BILL CLINTON'S RACIST POSTCARD HE SENT TO HIS GRANDMA IN 1966 DURING THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.

http://serr8d.blogspot.com/2007/10/bill-clinton-racist-postcard-buy-it-now.html

Hey Bammie's

PRESENT :-)

Your boy got his butt kicked in prime time

Edwards has seen the writing on the wall, and he knows Hillary is way ahead in the biggest super tuesday states, he has a great shot at VP, if he endorses her, and that is what he will probably do. Good for him, he would make an excellent VP, and Hillary will make an excellent president.

My wife and I have given money to John Edwards. If he now endorses Clinton or begins more attacks against Obama his credibility will be shot! We are now supporting Obama! We will not vote for Clinton. If she gets the nomination we will lose in the general election.

a smart political move by the best candidates in the race--obama fantics are repug clinton haters in disguise--sad , because they don't vote,don't pay heavy taxes,don't fight for their country but want to decide our future--arrogant brats for obama

Damn, you Dems ~~ every nasty thing you say to each other will come back to us 10-fold in the general election. Smarten up or be ready to lose in November.

We have three great candidates. They are pretty close together on issues. They all have baggage. None of them are saviors.

The differences between them on the issues is what we should be talking about. Not doing so plays right into the MSM (Corporate-owned Media{COM}) playbook ~~ and you are doing so right on this site. Shame on all of you.

For me, the differences on the issues have become more minute simply because one person has vowed to stay in the race to the end and has moved the debate to the left, which is good for all of us.

Your squabbling here is no different than Obama and Clinton on stage last night.

PS: Edwards is a gentleman and will never relent to Clinton's demands or entreaties.

I like what Edwards says about fighting big business, drug companies and oil companies,It should be the people who matter in this world, but is he just saying what he knows we want to hear, if he gives up the fight this early, caving in for Hillary, will just prove it!
I hope not!

We're all going down in the Billary Titanic. I wonder how fast the Clintons will run for the lifeboats and leave us poor suckers drowning in their muck?

so it's a two person race...why is that? the media??? it became a two person race with the $400 haircut...and who cares? this is not a personality contest. i am not a clinton fan and mr. obama, while he does not lack vision does lack real answers. but i would vote for any democrat before i would vote republican. think people, look for experience really look at the answers...we can't take back the country with "nice".

I'll be the first to jump off the Democratic ship in November if Billary takes on Edwards as a running mate OR if he endorses her. The lobbyists that she has in her pocket are the ones that he "has spent years fighting."
Let's not make the Democratic party anymore ass-backwards than it already is, people.

Obama made Shaheen, Bob Kerry, Mark Penn say what they did, in behalf of the Clinton machine?

Obama made the Clinton machine LIE about his pro-choice record in NH?

Obama made the Clintons LIE about his opposition to the war?

No, not Edwards for AG. Edwards for first vacancy on the Supreme Court (unless it's been reserved for Bill). David Iglesias for AG. It would be a masterstroke.

Hillary Clinton will drag the Democrats down to defeat in November and she may take the House and Senate with her. Only 33% of the population thinks it would be swell to go through 4 more years of those two. Wake up Democrats before we go the way of the Whigs.

Make no mistake about it, Obama started this slugfest with his caustic comments about Hillary being a Wal-Mart corporate lawyer. Hillary came back accusing him of representing a Slum Lord client. Obama then made disparaging remarks about the former President further causing a debate to devolve into a wrestling match.

I was not in favor of a Hillary/Obama or Obana/Hillary ticket... I wanted Hillary to select the former Supreme Allied Commander - Wesley Clark; while if Barak became the parties nominee Edwards or another Southern Democratic Senator would have made sense...But after last night only a Hillary/Obama ticket can heal and bind the wounds of the party and bring us together again.

Her lies, well both the clintons lies are numerous. I was listening to what she said about MLK and it gave me heartburn. How she twist things and facts and assume we are not smart to find out her lies. Then I saw a comment by Dave, Evergreen CO (Sent Monday, January 21, 2008 3:45 PM)
"Senator Clinton was so touched by the MLK speech she saw Dr. King give in 1963 that she worked on the campaign of Barry Goldwater a year later."

Now when I hear her speak a voice comes loud as a warning and says "what is she going to lie about now"

Look. You can hold your breath. You can stamp your feet. It's a free country. No one's going to make you stand in a corner if you choose to do something silly.

It is too early to give up the ship, John.
She is in the pockets of the health industry, the very people you said you were to battle for the people.

Actually the definition insanity is doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result = Billary can't maintain a Democratic majority, will sell you out for their political ambitions, "Bill has had more black women than Barack" ads from Republican operatives, depressing turnout among LOYAL base voters and the list just gets longer.

I am one of those democrats who would abandon the party rather than vote for clinton round 2.

First and foremost dynasties are bad for democracies. If you look at countries that do this sort of thing (Pakistan, india, argentina, indonesia) they are not models we should be emulating. Second I'm really not looking forward to 4-8 years of the clinton soap opera. Third, they may be good politicians, but clearly they are not good people. Depends what "is" is. I never had sexual relation, etc, etc. Clearly Bill is of low character and Hillary evidently feels that is her soul mate.

Edwards, obama mccain anyone but clinton

I really think that there's been enough evidence presented to date to suggest that half of the Obama supporters on any given discussion thread on any given site at any given time should seek out a therapist immediately.

Is this your first election? What is going on? I like Hillary Clinton. You like Barak Obama. We're having a contest to see who's going to win. We'll choose someone later on this year. At which point, I'll be supporting/voting for the Democratic nominee because I know that there is a difference between Hillary/Barak and everybody on the Republican side.

Maybe, Hillary reminds you of your Mom who wouldn't let you do something you wanted to do. Get over it.

This isn't high school, people.

PS I apologize if anyone is offended by my remarks.

And we're all grown-ups, I assume.

Maybe Mr. Edward's strategy is simply to discredit whichever candidate he perceives to be the frontrunner at the time. It is becoming apparent that the real race is between Clinton and Obama, and that the closer the race the more combative Senator Clinton becomes. I question whether her antagonistic approach to her adversaries can be effective in bringing about any significant improvements.

The corporate masters have donated $250 million to w's friends called Freedom Watch.

Corporate will not give up power without a fight.

It will get ugly in the general and hope and unity will not defeat the gop.

We need a fighter not a whiner.

I am astounded by these left wing bloggers. What are they smoking? Here comes this man Obama, off whom no one heard off until summer of 2004. He was given the podium at the convention, he conducts himself well. Walla the left thinks he is presidential material. give me a break. They think he is a idealist with some executive capabilities. First of all idealists do not make good execs. First of all I do not buy into the talk that he is an idealist, because an idealist would have voted one way or another and would not have voted "Present" 130 times in his brief career as state senator. Only with political calculus does that. Mr Obama does not have long years of experience that Clintons have. Above all the proof of the pudding is in tasting it. Clinton's have fought 11 (including the Hillary's senate bid) statewide elections and lost just one and 2 national election. They know this better than any living/dead democrat and dare I say may be any living Republican. So lefties calm down and let the lady win the nomination and then work with her to get back the white house. Do you guys really think Obama wins Repubs will fold their tents and go home? We need a scrapper there in he WH, who is willing to compromise. HRC is that. Obama is still not a presidential timber. He has been in the senate for 3 years and you guys think he knows everything. The much admired JFK, but for the fact that the poor SOB was killed in office, would have gone down as one of the worst prezs ever. Obama needs to gather around him good stalwart doers, who will stick with him through thick and thin. Right now he may several hundred ardent followers, but will they all stick with him, when the first crisis hits him? will they be looking for the nearest exit? He has not invested all that much him nor have they. Thats what the experience brings not only judgment but also history of mutual relationships. Clintons have that, look at Terry McCuliffe he has been with them through thick and thin before. Do you guys think Axlerod will stick around or Obama stick with him through thick and thin, may be he will may be not. We as people cannot afford the consequences if he doesn't during Obama presidency. Do You guys get it? For me its HRC all the way not because she is a woman it is because she will fight when necessary and she has able people who will also go to the mat for her. Presidency is not a one person show. Look at Reagan, who I loathe by the way, also had such a team that went to the mat for him. This came about from years of experience his team had with him and he with them.

Edwards will make a great AG to bring justice back to the Justice Dept.

Let's face it: Edwards is whoring out his green room to the highest bidder. He might as well hang a red lantern outside the door. Of course this guy wants to be a king-maker, he's got nothing else once this campaign runs its course. Edwards ran a great campaign, but no one bothered to listen. Time to think of the future, John. Hey, hold a dance off in that green room of yours.

We'll all breathe easy when Barack is sworn in.

Hillary Clinton was on Walmart's board, very clearly. So why is that an attack? Why won't she talk about it? Why would a union endorse someone who was on Walmart's board? I don't get unions these days.

mmm; more likely Hil would be in bed with Reno. Edwards is two-faced. Obama may lack "experience" but a blank page is often the best. Hil's experience--black panther/communism check your facts.She is all I am in charge and then is close to tears==please.
Ladies, just because she is female by gender does not mean she should be voted for. I do not cross the street due to blacks/whites/hispanics or anyone else in a group of young men in hoodies. I will continue and give a smile--I usually get a hello or am ignored.

Obama's HOPE does NOT walk the dog!
What is worng with you all?

We will everyone learn a simple fact. There are two people that are willing to sink the whole Democratic Party for their own gain. Clinton and Edwards. Scratch that, three. I forgot Bill Clinton.

Hillary is in danger of disrespecting the black voters by her divisive tactics. She may pay attention to the political demise of Kathleen Kennedy Townsend in her race for governor in Maryland. Black voters voted but not for her, thus electing the first Republican governor in almost 40 years.

Pigs will fly before John Edwards endorses HRC. To do so, as many have stated, would result in the loss of his credibility.

Many diehard Edwards devotees like myself understand he's in this to the convention, as he's certain to make good on collecting all those delegates he's been working so assiduously for.

pray tell, I'd like to know what they were "catching up on", but I believe this much in JOHN--he won't sell out to the American people he's instilled much hope and fight in.

John Edwards for Czar 08

I remind people that there were many principled, brave people who were against the war, even when they were called traitors. 23 Democratic Senators voted against it. Why didn't Clinton read the NIE report and stand up for the right thing?

So all you poor Whites, Blacks, Browns, Reds, and yellows peoples, struggling middle-classes, intellectualist, Vets,and single Mothers and Fathers out there...SUCK IT UP and VOTE for what this country really NEEDS...NOT an Inspired Dreamer that's for later when our House in back in order BUT for a person proven...VOTE and give a MOTHER a chance to show us all what a good Mother can do.
Tone I dont know what your point was with this remark but it evident that you are close minded racist. get a life.

Senator Clinton's *experience* has the same influence as saying Dick Cheney has experience.

She voted for the war, never bothered to read NIE report (it's hard work).

So what you say? She used that vote to position herself for an election. It's is bleeding our country dry of human and monetary resources. Thousands dead, maimed, trillions losts.

As to believing she will get us healthcare. HA. I remind you she has been in congress for many yrs and could have used her bulldog Bill to help ram it through.

No instead she/he use his talents to remind us, why we DON'T want them back. He never ranted about how bad this war was. Or how trusting Bush has to be the most lame brained ideas. Of course not. Bill and Daddy Bush are like father and son and it's easier for Bill to destroy his party, than take a principled position. Then again, he was the one who gave us a republican congress. Go figure.

Who's the real Manchurian candidate within the party?

The strongest argument for Hillary is Bill's first two years. He appointed Janet Reno, as about 3rd choice, let health care get screwed up, let the Republicans win control of Congress, and generally set up all of the problems that he had in the next 6 years. Starting off with the Clintons' experience, so that those mistakes are NOT made, will make a world of difference. Bill was as smart as Obama, and probably knew more about policy than Obama does, but he still made those major mistakes. Not only do I want Edwards to be a major force in Hillary's cabinet, I cannot imagine that Obama will not be the vp. I hope that Biden and Dodd are major players as well, either in the cabinet or as leaders in Congress. Leaders with titles, like Majority Leader for Dodd, and Secretary of State for Biden. These are all really qualified people, ANY of whom would be a better president than ANY Republican. I believe that Hillary will be the better candidate, and the better President AT THIS TIME, and that Obama should wait 8 years and then be a GREAT President, but if he gets the nomination, I am not going to stint on my support for him. And we will add 25 more seats to our majority in the House, and about 8-10 Senate seats, giving us nearly a filibuster-proof majority (we will need filibuster-proof to get universal health care).

I can't believe that Edwards would think that Hillary's positions are closer to his than Obamas. John Edwards: Please don't succumb to the group who will throw you under the bus when it suits them. Be mindful of promising you anything for your support. Remeber why people ar so polarized by Hillary. She will use you and then throw you away!

Lets face it the USA was ready to crucify anyone that didn't want to get the guns out and shoot up the Middle East. They[Hill and Edwards} did vote based on the LIES submitted by GWB and coerced by same. HillWards all the way

I don't understand the attack on the reporter; it seems ridiculous to me. Murray's bosses want reporting, and here it is. What's wrong with that? If you don't like it, don't read it. But don't get ugly over someone doing their job, and actually doing it well.

Anyone who claims to be a Democrat but swears they would vote against Clinton, Obama, or Edwards in the general election is sacrificing the good for the perfect. You'd rather have another four years of Republican power? More stacking the Supreme Court, more stealing away civil liberties, and more WAR? I would take any of these three, plus Biden, Dodd, or Richardson, over anything the Republicans produce.

I'm an Obama supporter, but I can't believe Edwards would get in to bed with the Clintons. He hates everything that they stand for. He must really want to be AG really bad.

O'bama used a reference to Ronald R.---Yes?....Well the best that can be said concerning that reference is Ronald's "personality" brought over people to his side....and what did they get for being impressed by Ronald's "personality?....They got "fooled"...They got "trick"-eled" down economy..they got unions busted...they got the mentally ill put into the streets...they got Soc-sec fund raided...they got 500 service people killed at one time...they got billions spent on a "Star-Wars' that never was.
In short Obama used an example of some one who fooled people into voting for him and got shafted. Does that hint AT WHAT O'Bama would like to do also?...or was he just naive of him to use Ronald's example?...one or the other Not very wise of him YES?. Like it or not the majority of people living in present day United States of America NEEDS an experienced, proven leader that has shown years of experience of doing what will be best for families, young and old people, children, vets and for the future generations,!. The U.S. NEEDS a president who can repair all the DAMAGE DONE by the last 8 years of the WORST president we have ever had!. NOT A DREAMER! Dreaming is just fine under the shade of a tree on a spring day...or sitting at the beach...BUT NOT when a terrible storm had ruined your country or when some robbers has just vandelized your house..and that's what has just happened people!...We NEED to NOT only stop the robbers but we must repair the damage they have done AND put them under arrest!. We don't have the luxry of Dreaming....perhaps after we have repaired what damage has been done after 8 tys. of BUSH and CO. we can get a dreamer President.BUT NOT NOW!. So all you poor Whites, Blacks, Browns, Reds, and yellows peoples, struggling middle-classes, intellectualist, Vets,and single Mothers and Fathers out there...SUCK IT UP and VOTE for what this country really NEEDS...NOT an Inspired Dreamer that's for later when our House in back in order BUT for a person proven...VOTE and give a MOTHER a chance to show us all what a good Mother can do. ......"Hi Mom"

Are you kidding me? Hillary answers each question the same way:
She repeats the problem
She raises her voice as if she is mad and not going to take it anymore.
She runs off some stats
Then tells us how she is going to make sure that this doesnt happen when she is in office.
You cant be falling for this!

I certainly hope Edwards is not aligning himself with Hillary; she is despicable! I am so tired of her constant whining about 35 years of experience that she knows is not true. Being the First Lady of Arkansas and the White House does not give you credentials to be President.

Obama has experience in grass root organizing and he is running an excellent campaign on CHANGE. This country needs a new direction and that does not mean electing another Clinton or Bush.

Starlite8

We're doomed to lose with Hillary/Edwards anyway. It's will be a Kerry/Edwards part II.

"They were for the war, before they were against it".

And does anyone really believe that the war isn't affecting our economy?

A war Clinton and Edwards supported.

Martin Luther King, III praises John Edwards for commitment to economic justice!

http://www.johnedwards.com/news/press-releases/20080121-mlk3/

Obama is the one to set the nasty tone in last nights debate. Hillary was up first and didn't say anything negative about either candidate. Then it was Obama's turn and he slammed Hillary and Edwards.

His remark about her being on the board of Walmart was just asking for a dirty fight and he didn't like it when she mentioned his connection with the slum lord in Chicago, Rezko.

I laugh at those who are calling Obama the great hope of America who is going to bring unity! He can't even unify with his own party!

He was quick to point out in the past that Hillary voted for the Kyle-Lieberman amendment, yet he didn't bother to show up for the vote at all. He claimed he didn't get enough notice. EVERY other candidate made it back to Washington to vote and had the same notice. The reason he skipped that vote was simple. Just like he does with all his "present" votes in Illinois, he blew it off because he didn't want to offend Lieberman, who he calls his "mentor" and says he admires Joe. He put his admiration for Lieberman before his country in that bill. If you look at all his bills, he has a Republican co-sponsor. Yet, he won't even co-sponsor a bill with someone from his own party, Hillary, who is trying to put a stop to Bush's so-called "treaty" with Iraq to keep permanent troops and military bases in Iraq by end-running the Congress. Again, he puts his own ego before his country and our military troops.

Get past the imitation MLK and JFK...he's as phony as a $3 bill. Take it from someone from Chicago who has watched his career from the beginning.

I'll vote for Edwards in the primary, but if he drops out, Hillary would get my vote before Obama. At least with Hillary, we know that she knows what she's talking about regarding the economy and foreign policy.

Oh....and take a look at the Rezko story very carefully. Thanks to his buddy Rezko, he got a $300,000 cut in the price of his mansion in Chicago, along with a sweet deal on some land next to it.

We are sticking with Edwards - and not allowing a bookie or the Corporate Owned Media to make decisions for us.

The Corporate Owned Media promotes Corporate Owned Democrats raking in the moolah from Wall Street and Washington lobbyists.

John Edwards will be a great president for ALL races and genders!

One little meeting and everybody's got their undies in a knot! I think you're all crazy.

This is a scenario I pictured after Iowa, though Ankleless Annie's "wins" in New Hampshire and Nevada (how did all those waddling duck people get in to vote, all munching Norman Hsu's fortune cookies?) seemed to obviate it. The "Tear BAG" cuts a deal with Pretty Boy & his labor-boss stalwarts (annoyed because Mr. Smug signed NAFTA into law, raising his head for a moment from underneath the desk)...BUT, guess what? The Cornpone Narcissus won't settle for less than the TOP spot, having failed before running for VP. Who wants to run for VP again? The Senatrix swallows her pride and assents. Assuming the ticket wins & gets sworn in, it's STILL a first for her and the Rosie-Ellen crowd. Then expect a Vince Foster moment. "HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! Gimme that briefcase! STRAP IT ON...!"
The late Skeeter Davis sang (imitating her), "Don't they know it's the ind of the world...?"

Calm down, everyone! Sounds like Hillary approached John which indicates a desperation on her part. As I'm sure she found out after 20 minutes of her sales pitch, John is in this thing to the convention. Hillary and Obama will have to win it all on their own.

Go John Go!

Hillary and Edwards.....priceless. Obama can't think fast on his feet. He was stuttering and "oming" every time it was not in the script. His record in the senate is deplorable.....lets face it we could all be senators if we only voted 37% of the time and picked the issues. The GOP will tear him apart when it comes to his experience and his church. He and the audience were angry that Hill actually stood up to him and questioned him. That is quite telling. We do NOT need another Bush that doesn't want questioned or inspected.

Hillary has been trying for 15 years to get support for her health care plan but has failed to muster enough democratic or republican support! She voted for the war without reading the intelligence reports but says she is all for the military; thousands of young men and women would still be alive if we had not entered the war she voted for. She has been a Senator for over seven years; why has she not tried to get all these good ideas and opportunities she claims to have introduced before. She sounds more like an X-Wife than an X-first lady!

Clinton/Edwards in 2008!

present

I've been saying for five years..Edwards is not genuine..regardless of who he endorses. His voting record reflects his personal political calculations that don't include the principles he espouses. Son of a mill worker is a run of the mill lawyer.

brothers,

If there is a Pres. McCain it was because Hillary decided to take a very combative approach to this campaign. It is obvious that she's willing to do ANYTHING to win. Her demeanor last night was unappropriate and her statements today are uncalled for.

If anything, this will be Hillary's fault.

Wow.... Edwards loses credibility if he sides with Clinton? have you ever followed a political race? It happens every one. And another responder refers to the "Clinton/Bush" years?? How the hell did Clinton get lumped in with the worst President in history? Sounds like mostly Republicans on this site... Hillary Haters.

I think that Edwards hit that in his green room!!!

Ata-boy!

"...she's a scrapper..."

Yes, a scrapper, a candidate for all the people, from the board room to the beach house, from the yacht to the private jet, from the Aspen chalet to the Tuscan vineyard...

You can blame John Kerry for this. That nasty snub from that loser brought Hillary and Edwards closer together.

If Edwards claims he and Obama are the change agents, how can he possibly throw his support behind Clinton? If he did, I would hope Edwards supporters would think it a betrayal and go with Obama anyhow. That's what I'll do. But as for now, it's Edwards all the way, baby!

Realizing she started running the general election way prematurely, I could imagine Hillary trying desperately to make a deal to recast her tired old self as a change agent now that she's seen the enthusiasm of the electorate for change. She took things for granted just one time too often.

It's over folks, as Hillary sold her sole to the devil some time ago. Her and Bill will promise poor little Johnny Edwards the world and then toss him to the side when she is nominated.
Edwards must not have follwed the clinton's back in the 90's. He'll be like Vince Foster and will never see it coming.

I think John Edwards would be a great Attorney General. I also think we are jumping to conclusions about what the meeting was about. Let's just wait and see what happens. Maybe Hillary was taling to Edwards about a cabinet post if she's elected. It doesn't mean that he will accept it.

this is to zukermand who commented at the beginning, why is murray unprofessional??? SO WHAT!!!!! its just the sneaky clintons doing what they do best, dirty politics, now you see the clinton machine working and murray pointed that out, you can just bet she was offering something to edwards to get out, gang up on obama, she did not ever expect this to happen, she thought she was going to be crowned the nominee and thought she deserved it and the hell with everyone else, but after these last couple of weeks and the display I have seen of her and bill, WHO IS REALLY GOING TO BE PRESIDENT????? bill wants his third term, and pity whoever the vice president is going to be, he will be vp in name only. what a joke that is going to be. you call murray unprofessional and irresponsible, what do you call what bill has been doing, what he did in NEVADA was the worst I have ever seen, now I am sick of every day before the election he does his dirty work. now that is unprofessional and irresponsible!!!!!

Edwards, Clinton and Obama will work together for the good of the US as soon as a Democratic Candidate is chosen. For we democrats to insult and bash the candidate who is not our favorite candidate is ignorant and unhelpful in every possible way.

That said, I find Obama supporters are very ready to say they will desert the Democratic party and vote republican if their candidate is not topping the ticket.
How can people who say they support Obama really be for his agenda if they will support a republican rather than one of the other Democratic candidates?

Edwards '08

I am a RABID Edwards supporter, and I can tell you that there is NO WAY that he would endorse Clinton. He's in this for the long haul, and if he decides to endorse anyone, should it come to that, I believe that it would be Obama. I mean, seriously, the one candidate who refuses to take money from lobbyists is going to partner up with the one candidate who takes the most money from lobbyists. Thanks for the laugh this morning!

Wake up, Democrats - candidates and supporters alike! If you can't stop this ugly 'family' violence, then we'll witness the sorry sight of President McCain's inauguration next January.

If Edwards endorses Hillary I WILL NOT vote for her. In addition, Edwards will be seen as the BIGGEST sellout in political history. I really hope all of this is rumors. He better hurry up and address what's going on. He's about to lose a BIG supporter. I'll vote for Obama with a quickness over the likes of Hillary.

My word, talk about nasty, you people must be looking at a mirror when you call her names, you certainly aren't looking at reality. Which is what we need to look at in order to get out of this mess. Obama sounds terrific, fluent, fluid and complete with ruby shoes. But elect him President and you will need to have HOPE because nice as he sounds, he doesn't have the experience to get in there and fight and if you are thinking changing the President is the sole way to changing the partisanship in the House and Senate, you are truly living in never never land. Give him a few years to learn the ropes in the Senate and maybe some of that lofty rhetoric will be basedc on knowledge and experience and he might not have to vote present. Hillary may not be cookies and cream but she's a scrapper and I'll take that any old day that some make believe JFK. MLK and JFK paid the ultimate price for all that oratory and having lived through it and relived it I know that neither had the opportunity of succeeding in putting their dreams into reality. JFK will not go down as our best President no matter how much we love to listen to him and MLK only started the process, you only have to walk down the street and see what happens when a group of hoody covered young black men are on the same side of the street as white females or males for that matter. The white people cross the street, not out of prejudice but out of fear. We have a whole lot to do and a much longer time to go to get it done. A dreamer/orator is not what we need to accomoplish that. We need scrappy. If you want to be critical, go listen to the Republicans, they have yet to even address the problems that beset us in the economy, in our cultural clashes and in the world. And when they do they still bring up Reaganomics which failed every time it has been used back to the 80's. Someone who lived it needs to tell it like it really was with interest rates soaring, people out of work and the rich getting richer without trickling anything except excrement down to the rest of us.

Please people get real

If Edwards "kings" Hillary with his delegates, he will surely lose credibility. After all, his entire campaign is about how he doesn't take money from lobbyists and fighting for labor, etc. He's hit Clinton on this repeatedly. But what does he have to lose? Edwards' political life is over once he steps aside (unless he's vying for a VP slot). Everything to gain, nothing to lose.

Is it farfetched to think that Edwards' supporters might get offended if they wake up and realize that they have become pawns to be used to broker an arrangement between Hillary and him? I can't believe what sheep Democrats have become. Obama is the future of the party, Hillary represents the ugly, corrupt and incompetent past of the Clinton/Bush era. Once again the party seems to be snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

If Edwards goes towards Clinton, he loses credibility. He attacked Hillary and in part allowed for her 'tears'. He claimed she was the establishment and status quo, to lean her way would show ill of him and I think help Obama - in one corner you have hope that Obama speaks of and in the other two liars in Edwards/Clinton.

Politics surely makes strange bedfellows.

Edwards as Attorney General ?

The stats show that Edwards voters have drifted to Clinton in NH and NV and elsewhere (according to polling). Obama needs Edwards in the race to beat Clinton because Edwards takes some votes away from Hillary in demographics where Obama is not that competitive. The fact that Hillary and Edwards met is most interesting because they hate each other (though most of the hate comes from Edwards at Hillary). I don't know what it means, but I don't think it was good for Obama.

So Edwards who has been the one hitting against Clinton the hardest on the trail and in the debates, now is meeting with Hillary to chat about media coverage? Give me a break! Hillary needs Edwards to stay in the race and dilute Obama numbers on February 5th. It would hardly be a stretch of the imagination to believe Hillary incapable of encouring Edwards to hang in there until the end to ensure she wins.

Obama certainly would have picked up a part of the 4% of caucus voters pledged to Edwards in NV, since the message of his campaign has been far more anti-Hillary than Obama's rhetoric, up to this point.

Hillary would hardly fare so well in the final debate leading to Super Tuesday, without Edwards to deflect her rancid personality.

Power! Greed! Fight! I am loving this.

Could Shailagh Murray be any more unprofessional and irresponsible?

Posted by: zukermand | January 22, 2008 11:16 AM

Sadly,she can and she frequently is.

Could Shailagh Murray be any more unprofessional and irresponsible?

Good Gawd, John, don't get in bed with the devil, that woman, Hillary Clinton.

I am pretty sure Edward is going to endorse Clinton. I guess they are planning to gang up on Obama, which will eventually doom the Democratic Party.