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After Florida Primary, a Clinton Visit

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton remarks on the weather as she arrives at the airport in Sarasota, Fla. Saturday, Jan. 26, 2008 to attend a fundraising event. (AP).

By Anne E. Kornblut
MEMPHIS, Tenn. -- Ramping up her push into Florida, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton announced today that she will travel to the state on Tuesday night -- just in time for a victory party after the state's beauty contest primary.

"I'm running to be the president of our entire country, and hundreds of thousands of people have already voted in Florida, and I want them to know that I will be there on Tuesday to be part of what they have tried to do, to make sure their voices are heard," Clinton said.

The Democratic National Committee has said it will not seat Florida's delegates to the convention because the state moved its primary up in violation of party rules. Clinton is seeking to get the delegates seated anyway. And she is traveling to Sarasota and Miami today for fundraisers -- which are not, technically, the sort of official "campaign stops" that the candidates have promised not to hold. Clinton will return to Miami on Tuesday night for what her campaign expects will be a celebration there after she wins.

By Web Politics Editor  |  January 27, 2008; 1:05 PM ET
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Passage of Florida legislative bill HB 537 has caused 1.7 million voters to become disenfranchised. Unless the RNC & DNC policies are changed, this could happen to you some day; regardless of your state or party affiliation. The contents of this website will discuss this bill, what happened; and what you can do to try to reverse this situation and prevent it from recurring. Please help us reinstate the voting rights of Florida Democrats. How you can help:

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If you have already signed a petition that combines the Michigan and Florida reinstatement effort, please sign this petition also. There are different arguments for each state and I believe they need to be argued independently.

Please keep these facts in mind as you read the contents of this website:
* The Florida Democratic primary election ballot had all democratic candidates listed.
* Florida Dems have been disenfranchised, through no fault of their own
* HB537 was written by a Florida Republican to change Florida's primary date.
* A state legislature has interfered with it's constituents National voting rights.
* The Florida Democratic Party did NOT change this date, the legislature did.
* The Florida legislature has an overwhelming Republican majority.
* The House of Representatives in Florida have 41 Democrats; 71 Republicans.
* The Senate in Florida have 14 Democrats; 26 Republicans
* The state of Florida has a Republican Governor.
* The citizens of the state of Florida did NOT vote on this date change.
* HB537 was passed in May 2007 & legislatively changed the Florida primary date.
* This date was, and still is, unalterable by the Florida Democrats.

Posted by: lanesharon | February 12, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

The democratic party has spoken. Why are we entertaining this. It will only bring law suits. She should be penalized for putting her name on the Ballot. She is playing the same type of Bush Polotics of 2004 elections. When are we going to hold politicians accountable. They are supposed to represent the people and cheating the system is not good for the country. It shows everyone what she will be like as president. Another Bush but a democrat.

Posted by: shirelle.thornton | February 12, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

What a mess. First, I agree that the DNC (Dean) botched it by disqualifying all of the MI and FL delegates - the RNC solution is much more reasonable.

What I'm really concerned about it how this will be rectified. By the courts? At what price to Democratic unity? Reading these posts gives just a small hint of the acrimony to come. What solution is there? You can't just allocate the delegates based on the primary votes in those states - Obama wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan! If you leave it to the states involved, they'll surely botch it and right into court this goes. This is going to be a HUGE trainwreck unless Dean gets his act together QUICKLY.

Posted by: WillM1 | February 6, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

I think it is funny that people are so negative about Hillary saying she would fight for the delegates from Florida and Michigan. Uh, Obama said the same thing. I swear folks are way too hyper about this race. Both candidates are good. Relax, you don't have to hate Hillary to like Obama. Just like who you want and not focus so much on the other candidate.

Posted by: clander | January 30, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Ummm... Earth to Hotnuke... you are seriously in need of a life, a hobby, Prozac... or something. Talk about violating posting standards...! Sheesh.

That said... the campaigns should have exactly zero say in whether the delegates are seated. It is up to the DNC... they gave both states plenty of time to resolve this and then put their foot down. And it should stay down. I'm in Florida. My vote in the Primary won't count. I accept that. What I will not accept is capitulation on a decision that was made on principle as the one by the DNc was.

Posted by: jenzinoh | January 29, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Oh my god I love her. So hot for hillary!

Posted by: bakerr | January 27, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Clearly the Michagan delegates should not be seated. Clinton was the only one on the ballot so it's extremely unfair to seat delegates based on that vote.

I live in Florida and called party officials some time ago asking them to seat delegates based on the Florida race. Now it's too late. Deciding to seat Florida delegates now is unfair because there's very little time for the candidates to campaign. As a result, the candidate with the most name recognition is unfairly favored.

Expect the Michigan and Florida delegates to be seated just as soon as the race has been decided. Doing so before that unfairly favors Clinton.

Posted by: edhere | January 27, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Whether this get posted or not, I think we should tackle the right issues when it come to the Clintons.
August 1989:
The Clintons were in power when American Embassies in Nairobi, Kenya and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania all in Africa got attack by Osama Bin Laden. Information was sent to the White House, and nothing was done other than a speech of condolences for the victim's families in Africa. It was just the Africans - Who care. This was the message that was received in Africa.
We all thought the Americans will back us because of the information that we gave them - Osama was in the hide outs (Libya). We later found out from source closer to presidents of those African countries that were attacked that, the US have contacted the Saud ices and received Millions of Dollars that were ship to some Swiss Banks. The Swiss government is refusing to address this situation or conspiracy.
Africans have this adage: "the rain that falls on my house and cause destruction will soon drift to your house." This is what happened on Sep 11Th, when US was attack right at home. Had it been the Clintons had taken out Osama, 3000 US citizens would not have died. Who then, should we point fingers at - The CLINTONS. They knew all the plots of Osama from briefings by the CIA and FBI but because they had taken money from the Saud ices, they wouldn't pursue the safety of 3000 US citizens.
Call this a verbose claim, they video is available when US intelligent saw Osama getting into a bucker for their usual meeting after they had attacked the US embassies. Despite a call to the White House, THE CLINTONS WILL NOT APPROVE THE KILLING OF OSAMA.

So, all we are asking is to tell the truth about what happen before 9/11.

Sending the Clintons to the White is not something that we cannot let it happen.

To those who intend to vote for the Clintons, bare this in mind:


Watch this for yourself and ask why the Clintons did not kill Osama.

They had already taken money from the Saudices

Posted by: ordgobaltc | January 27, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

How nice for HRC to express concern for the disenfranchised voters of Florida as soon as she realized that she was going to lose SC. It is especially delightful that she opened her heart to this sort of inclusiveness less than two weeks after trying to disenfranchise the Culinary Workers Union in NV.

It's too bad that the Democratic voters in FL won't have a voice in the nomination process. But our time to protest this decision has passed--back in August. We ought to stand by the DNC ruling.

I am pretty troubled when I read some of the comments of HRC supporters here. Lobbing personal attacks against Obama supporters ("whiners") and alleging that there was fraud at some Iowa caucuses (Obama's "filthy" tricks).

Barack Obama is running an honorable campaign and I am proud to stand with him. I was proud to stand with the Clintons at one point but I feel like their gamesmanship is a slap in our faces. We've been through too much over the past seven years with Bush & Co. We deserve better. We're not idiots. We want to be part of the process, not tricked/manipulated.

Posted by: SalomeAntipas | January 27, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Look, I'll ask everyone to please just forget about the delegate horserace for one second and consider Michigan and Florida voters. So, screw who would benefit from this or who's being underhanded; forget all that. I agree that Hillary is trying to win cheap here, but again, ignore that for one moment. Here's another way to look at the problem: if you're a Democratic voter from Michigan and Florida, two very large states, you should be pissed right now because your vote is essentially not going to count. Don't know about you guys, but that sounds like disenfranchisement to me. Think I'm going over the top? Ok, why did the DNC remove all the Florida and Michigan delegations from the convention? Why couldn't they do what the Republicans did: punish the states by removing half or something? The DNC was very harsh in its decision; that's all I'm saying. Puny states like Iowa and New Hampshire get all this attention and influence while the states with gargantuan populations, who nominally should have more power, are kicked to the curb. Patently absurd.

Posted by: Resenbrink78 | January 27, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

go hillary!

anyone who views this as underhanded or dirty politics, has not been paying attention to how the country elects the president - and more specifically how important Florida is in the past few general elections.

every vote should count. the DNC went overboard by punishing michigan and florida. and everyone said at the time when they were stripped of their delegates that is was HIGHLY likely that they would be seated in the summer anyway. so this is not new news.

and - folks who say FL is an unfair "beauty contest" - is to insult flordia and it's citizen's ability to watch the news. i live in LA - clinton and obama have not knocked on my door - yet somehow i'm able to make a decision. to say it's unfair that clinton has the highest name recognition and can just walk away with the FL delegates without trying ignores the millions and millions of words that has been written about the other candidates in the florida and national press.

oh, and obama is running a national commercial that runs in florida right now... b/c they can't figure out a way not to run it there too. well i guess no one's perfect.

florida is an important states for any presidential hopeful - the democrats ignore FL at their peril.

go hillary!

Posted by: priusdriver | January 27, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Clinton calls for Michigan & Florida delegates to be counted

Should the Michigan and Florida Democratic delegates be counted?


Posted by: jeffboste | January 27, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Once again the cowardice of the other candidates shines through. Where they whole heartedly campaigned in Michigan and no one can campaign in Florida they are still crying that they want to leave out these states! If I remember correctly John Conyers led the pack to vote UNCOMMITTED in Michigan to stop Hillary Clinton from receiving votes!

The other candidates could have and should have stood by the states rights to have seated their delegates in the National Convention! Whoever heard of such an UnAmerican thing to do? Perhaps this is how the other candidates wanted it because they KNEW they couldn't win in those states and didn't stand a chance against Hillary Clinton.

Once again the cowards of the country are the guys who won't stand up for allowing ALL THE VOTES TO BE COUNTED!

Posted by: UWBizKid | January 27, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I support Hillary wholeheartedly! MI and FL dems deserve a chance to vote. Why should DNC take that away from them? Punish state chair (perhaps sanctions?), don't punish the voters! And speaking of "do anything to get elected" - what about Obama's filthy tactic of shipping in Illinois residents to cross the border into Iowa to vote in Iowa?? (I saw it firsthand. Iowa did not require proof of address). Is that not the dirtiest trick there is!!

Posted by: tina6767 | January 27, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Go Hillary!

I mean, by Tuesday night the vote will be over. After that, Democrat figures--Obama, Clinton, Edwards, need to travel to the Sunshine state. They must campaign there.

Otherwise, the state will assuredly go Republican this November. The GOP is salivating and extremely excited that the Democrats are staying out of Florida.

Come Tuesday night, the DNC needs to make a concerted effort to regain any of its lost footing. Sure Florida Democrats made a calendar change (partly promulgated by the Republican legislature) but the Party needs to realize it can't afford to lose Florida to the GOP in November.

Get off your high horse and get to Florida, right away, all of your Democrats. We can't lose the state!

Posted by: dvillarreal1981 | January 27, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

cpaustin is absolutely right, but it's worse. In Michigan Clinton and her powerful supporters engineered what amounted to an election rigged in her favor. They shamelessly blamed her rivals for voluntarily withdrawing and "abandoning" Michigan voters. They obeyed the rules; she did not.

Now Senator Clinton hopes for another big win in Florida using dishonest tactics and disingenuous justifications for them. Enragingly, she and her supporters have claimed that the results of these bogus elections will be ratified at the Democratic Convention, seating delegations overwhelmingly committed to her. Alas, she is probably right.

Posted by: mmacdon | January 27, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

This is amazing to me. They will almost LITERALLY do ANYTHING to get their way. As a former big Clinton supporter, every day I lose more and more respect for them. They actually sign a pledge not to compete in Florida and then turn around and compete in Florida as soon as things don't go their way. Democrats HAVE to wake up and turn the page on this. Amazing.

Posted by: ottcar | January 27, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

"which are not, technically, the sort of official "campaign stops" that the candidates have promised not to hold"


Either they are or they aren't. Do you guys feel it's about time to quit pretending you're supposed to be professional journalists?

Posted by: zukermand | January 27, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

She's just reinforcing that she'll say or do anything to get elected. So what if before Iowa and NH that all the candidates agreed to skip MI and FL.

Posted by: JasonT910 | January 27, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Sen. Clinton's appeal to have the Michigan and Florida delegates seated at the Democratic convention is disgraceful -- an obvious case of wanting to change the rules after the game has been played. The DNC stripped the two states of their delegates because they would not play by party rules in scheduling their primaries. To now allow the delegates from those states to be seated would be totally unfair because all candidates were not given an equal chance to campaign in those states.

Voters should pay no attention whatsoever to Mrs. Clinton's vote gathering in Florida if she garners the most votes there as expected -- a result that undoubtedly can be attributed to her greater name recognition.

Posted by: cpaustin408 | January 27, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

I feel dirty just reading about her.

Posted by: davestickler | January 27, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

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