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Anti-Clinton Activist Hits SC with Robo-Calls

By Kevin Merida
GREENVILLE, S.C. -- It appears South Carolina continues to earn its reputation as a cauldron of dirty, knife-gutting politics. And we're not talking about the Clinton-Obama feud.

Michele Semac, a teen consultant for a non-profit, says she received at 11 a.m. on Tuesday a nasty automated phone call from "Robert Morrow, on behalf of all of the citizens Bill and Hillary have lied to." The call, Semac said, contained sexual allegations against former president Bill Clinton and invoked both Clintons in connection with the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

"It was really the worst," said Semac, a Clinton supporter. "It was malicious. It was filled with hate and venom. It was shocking."

Semac did not record the call, but she did report it to a Clinton campaign staffer in Greenville who forwarded it on to Clinton headquarters in Columbia. Zac Wright, the South Carolina communications director for the Clinton campaign, told the Trail Wednesday evening that reports of the Robert Morrow call and similar calls had been trickling in from around the state. He said the campaign was still investigating the origin and number of the calls. Robert Morrow is a well-known anti-Clinton activist responsible for a national e-mail campaign against her, as well as a volunteer for the campaign of Republican iconoclast Ron Paul.

"I wish someone would track this fella down," said Semac, who lives in a suburb of Greenville and takes young people on self-esteem retreats. "I wouldn't like this even if it was said about a Republican. There's a lot of undercurrent going on here that most people don't know about."

Earlier today a reporter for TPM Muckraker called Morrow and confirmed that he was behind the South Carolina calls; the blog has posted an audio clip of one of the calls on the web. The transcript of the call echoes major themes of the anti-Clinton e-mails Morrow has been sending to bloggers and reporters for months.

Semac came to a Bill Clinton rally in Greenville on Tuesday, in part because of how incensed she was over the call. She had not made a decision to vote for Hillary Clinton in Saturday's primary until after the Myrtle Beach debate in which the New York senator seemed the most knowledgeable to her, she said.

That said, as for the current back-and-forth spat between the Obama and Clinton camps, she is not happy.

"I blame the candidates," Semac said. "I blame Hillary and Barack, and I think they could tamp it down. I'm not happy with either one of them, honestly. They need to be able to talk about their differences in a more civil way."

And don't think she lets Bill off the hook for his role. At least, for the most part.

"I'm not that crazy about him being that aggressive," she said of the ex-president, "but I like that he's out there."

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If we don't learn from history, we are bound to repeat it.

Those who forget the past will repeat it.

To refresh your memory of the Clinton years, click on link below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNQkH3-AHBM

Posted by: geohydrological | January 25, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

I suggest that there is something that all Americans who are fed up with the "politics as usual" can do. We can start a Grassroots Movement.

We can e-mail the Democratic National Committee and let them know what we think of the tactics of the Clintons' in this campaign.

We can also email the Democratic Super Delegates and let them know that the Clintons' candidacy will NOT get our vote.

I do NOT work for any Presidential candidate. I am a lifelong Democrat who is fed up with MORE of what we have just had for the last 8 years.

What follows is my email to the DNC this morning:

Email to the DNC:
Good Morning:
This is not a question; but a statement.
Both my husband & I are registered Democrats and have always voted accordingly. We are in our early 50's, white, college educated and live just outside the Beltway.
We believe that it is very important for the Democratic Party to note that we will NOT vote for the Clintons (PLURAL), if THEY get the nomination. They have sullied Democrats everywhere with their current campaign of half-truths and seem more like Karl Rove than like Democrats and we as part of the American Public are sick of this type of politics!
At the point of the Clintons' nomination, if there is an independent we will cast our vote with them; OR leave the Presidency portion of the ballot BLANK.

If the Democratic National Party is serious about regaining NOT only the White House but a MAJORITY in both the Congress & the Senate to actually get some programs and laws passed; then, allow someone who can UNITE the country and bring over BOTH Republicans and Independents to vote for him (as Reagan previously did with Democrats).

The absolutely unbecoming behavior of former President Clinton is appalling and with so many media outlets vying for their market share, the American Public gets to see this repeatedly!

The Democratic "Super" Delegates had better think long & hard about whom they back or the DNC will find itself perhaps either losing the Presidency AND the Congress to the Republicans AGAIN.

This is only one example of reading the posted remarks of thoughtful and caring Americans. The link is: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/01/if-not-obama-th.html

This is NOT 'sour grapes' but a decision based on the notion that this country & the Democratic Party needs to move forward and get this great country working again.

Thank You

Posted by: DariMD | January 24, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

No More Dirty Politics! Let your voice be heard!!

Please take a moment to sign my petion to the DNC to end the Clinton Sleaze Tactics. I'd like 1000 signatures before SC!

Keep hope alive!
OBAMA 08!

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/566752872

Posted by: malesa1842 | January 24, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

These calls are an epidemic and are invading the privacy of All American Voters.

Our members are taking a stand and saying enough is enough at the National Political Do Not Contact Registry at StopPoliticalCalls.org.

Here is a quote from a member this morning:

" Please stop calling to get my vote. I vote for who I feel is the most qualified person."

Regards,

Shaun Dakin
CEO and Founder
http://www.stoppoliticalcalls.org

Posted by: shimane1 | January 24, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Hey schencks84
Total delegates
Clinton - 236
Obama - 136
Obama is a joke! Obama said he goofed on votes
Barack Obama angered fellow Democrats in the Illinois Senate when he voted to strip millions of dollars from a child welfare office on Chicago's West Side. But Obama had a ready explanation:
He goofed.

Also announced he had fumbled an election-reform vote the day before, on a measure that passed 51 to 6. The next day, he acknowledged voting "present" on a key telecommunications vote.

He stood on March 11, 1999, to take back his vote against legislation to end good-behavior credits for certain felons in county jails. "I pressed the wrong button on that," he said.

Obama was the lone dissenter on Feb. 24, 2000, against 57 yeas for a ban on human cloning. "I pressed the wrong button by accident," he said.

But two of Obama's bumbles came on more-sensitive topics, he backed legislation to permit riverboat casinos to operate even when the boats were dockside.

The measure, pushed by the gambling industry and fought by church groups whose support Obama was seeking, passed with two "yeas" to spare -- including Obama's. Moments after its passage he rose to say, explaining that he had mistakenly voted for it.

Obama would later develop a reputation as a critic of the gambling industry, and he voted against a similar measure two years later. But he was clearly confused about how to handle the issue at the time of his first vote, telling a church group that he was "undecided" about whether he backed an expansion of riverboat gambling. And, months earlier, he had voted in favor of a version of the bill.

Obama's vote sparked a confrontation after he joined Republicans to block Democrats trying to override a veto by GOP Gov. George Ryan of a $2-million allotment for the west Chicago child welfare office. being responsible," said Sen. Rickey Hendon, accusing Obama of voting to close the child welfare office.Obama replied "I understand Sen. Hendon's anger, I was not aware that I had voted no on that piece of legislation.


Posted by: dyck21005 | January 24, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Hey dyck:

Pledged delegates:

Obama - 38
Clinton - 36


Too bad he keeps on "losing"...

Posted by: schencks84 | January 24, 2008 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: jameswhanger | January 24, 2008 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Obamas has been crying since he lost every primary since Iowa, where 17yr olds (who can't vote in general election) and Bill Richardson supporters put him over the top, otherwise he would have lost there too. The media has told the country that SC is a racist black only vote. So why would anyone other than the only 1/2 black candidate stay there. John Edwards is wasting his time in SC per the media. I don't think that ALL SC voters are as racist and naive as the media wants to portray them. It's an attempt to help Obama because his camp has made fools of the media. It took voters and an ex-president to bring his terrible senate record, bush/Chaney backing, republican loving, lack of good judgment and inexperience out in the open when the media tried to hide it. Frankly we are tired of obama crying! If he crashes so quickly because he's getting caught with corrupt campaigning funds with Rezko etc... what would he do when foreign leaders come at him? Run crying too, or call Oprah for help? ...Just what we cannot afford to take a chance on. Giving pre-written church speeches does not make a President. And having his wife, Michelle Obama stumping throwing out racial comments is disgusting! No one sees her as first lady material; we don't even see her as a lady! No one was crying when obama camp was attacking Hillary? And ALL the media treating her unfairly. She has proven that she is a strong leader after all the attacks she has endured and over come. Thank God the voters are smarter than the media and obama give them credit for. DONT WASTE VOTES ON OBAMAS, WE DONT NEED A RACIST IN THE WHITE HOUSE
Obama's spiritual adviser, J Wright gave Trumpeter Award to a man it said "truly epitomized greatness. Louis Farrakhan. maybe for Wright and some others, Farrakhan "epitomized greatness." For Americans, Farrakhan epitomizes racism, particularly in the form of anti-Semitism. Over the years, he has compiled an awesome record of offensive statements, even denigrating the Holocaust by falsely attributing it to Jewish cooperation with Hitler "They helped him get the Third Reich on the road." His history is a rancid stew of lies. Any praise of Farrakhan heightens the prestige of the leader of the Nation of Islam. His anti-Semitism and particularly his false insistence that Jews have played an inordinate role in victimizing African Americans.
Farrakhan's dream has vilified whites and singled out Jews to blame for crimes large and small, either committed by others as well or not at all. (A dominant role in the slave trade, for instance.) He has talked of Jewish conspiracies to set a media line for the whole nation. He has reviled Jews in a manner that brings Hitler to mind. And yet Wright heaped praise on Farrakhan. According to Trumpet, he applauded his "depth of analysis when it comes to the racial ills of this nation." He praised "his integrity and honesty." He called him "an unforgettable force, a catalyst for change and a religious leader who is sincere about his faith and his purpose." These are the words of a man who prayed with Obama just before the Illinois senator announced his run for the presidency. Will he pray with him just before his inaugural?
The New York Times recently reported on Obama's penchant while serving in the Illinois legislature for merely voting "present" when faced with some tough issues. Farrakhan, in a strictly political sense, may be a tough issue for him. This time, though, "present" will not do.

Posted by: dyck21005 | January 24, 2008 8:40 AM | Report abuse

A DEMOCRATIC CALL TO CONSCIENCE ...

"The struggle of man against power is the struggle of memory against forgetting."

--Milan Kundera

In the 1960s, Mississippi sharecroppers facing nightsticks and police dogs stirred the conscience of a nation by wearing signs that said simply: "I am a man."

Later, Cesar Chavez's United Farmworkers Union, facing a television debate with a slick corporate spokesperson, offered up a poor woman who picked grapes to feed her family as their representative--and she wiped the floor with the growers' shill.

Truth, simple truth, can still win the field.

Today, the Clinton machine is eyeball to eyeball with an America that does not want to re-live the 1990s, the scandals, the shame, the spectacle of our White House transformed into a bordello.

If you are tired of the Clintons' lying, race coding and defaming and distorting the record of some of the party's best and brightest, there is a solution.

We can take back the party ... by drawing on the direct action lessons community activists taught us in the 1960s and 1970s during the heyday of the civil rights movement.

All it will take is a zerox machine, a tape recorder, or a video set-up.

And a willingness to stand up and be counted.

Go to your next Democratic Party meeting.

Bring with you copies of Nation magazine Katha Pollitt's article on Bill Clinton's alleged involvement in the Juanita Broaddrick sexual assault scandal (http://www.thenation.com/doc/19990322/pollitt).

Take too, one of the original Washington Post stories on the same subject (www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/broaddrick022599.htm).

Also, bring a tape recording or DVD of the Juanita Broaddrick interview in which she talks of her personal experiences with the Clintons. ... And make sure you can play it loudly. (www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KZ8ICvutc0)

Just for giggles, also take with you a paperback version of the book "No One Left To Lie to" by British-American writer and human rights activist Christopher Hitchens'--and make a lot of copies of the chapter on "Is There a Rapist in the Oval Office?"

Recently Hitchens reminded that the essay "has never been challenged by anybody in the fabled Clinton 'rapid response' team.)

"Yet one constantly reads that both Clintons, including the female who helped intensify the slanders against her mistreated sisters, are excellent on women's 'issues.'"

Share these with your fellow Democrats at party meetings before your state holds a caucus or primary.

Ask them to listen to their consciences.

Ask them if they want the divisiveness, examples of disrepect for women, and union busting friendships (Wal-Mart, Marc Rich, you know the drill), that would surely come with another Clinton presidency.

Ask them if the country can afford such a spectacle as the economy tanks and young men and women are fighting and dying for our freedom many miles from our shores.

Once a lone voice from the back of the U.S. Senate chamber, that of Daniel Patrick Moynihan, called out to remind a body that was about to rubber stamp Clarence Thomas' elevation to the Supreme Court about their responsibilities.

Anita Hill came forward and the rest was history. Unfortunately, that time it was too late to make a difference.

It was Moynihan who once said that everyone is entitled to his own opinion but not his own facts.

Take ... the ... party ... back!!!

Posted by: Martinedwinandersen | January 24, 2008 7:28 AM | Report abuse

This is a slime job on Barack Hussein Obama's behalf.

The media is afraid of Obama because they are afraid to be viewed as racist if they report a negative headline on him.

So much for fair reporting. He is every bit as dirty as the reports on Clinton.

Something about the name Hussein in the White House just nags at me.

Posted by: fballfn | January 24, 2008 7:22 AM | Report abuse

According to Zogby poll today, John Edwards has a very good chance of coming in second in South Carolina, with Mrs. Clinton coming in third. Her numbers there continue to dip, while Edwards'rise.

I wouldn't mind seeing her come third at all !

Posted by: vbalfour | January 24, 2008 7:11 AM | Report abuse

That attack robo-call sounds psycho, whether true or not. I phonebank, canvas, blog and watch media for the Obama campaign, as a volunteer, nothing official. There is such opposition to slander-attacks in the campaign that a hundred Obamans descend on folks who claim they want to "help" Obama by spreading the most sensationalist, legally unproven rumors.

We know dirty tricks like that don't help, and we don't even need them. Hillary's donors, lobbyists, earmarks, and votes with Bush and Lieberman are all we need. It's about policies that help all Americans, about transparency and honesty in government.

Laugh all you want, but that cynicism is too French for America. So long as we have a democracy and work to make it so, we can change it. If not, why bother? Voting for business-as-usual is futile.

Posted by: VCubed | January 24, 2008 7:05 AM | Report abuse

Have to be honest with you, if Hillary Clinton becomes the democratic nominee for prez, I definitelly will vote whoever the Repubs choose. Democrats wake up, this country doesn't need this anymore. For the Clintons its a business, they are playing with peoples lives and they dont care really.

Posted by: woodfree1 | January 24, 2008 3:43 AM | Report abuse

Well, I can see why I could never support Obama. If what I am reading on here is any indication of the type of people that support him, then I would rather vote for a Republican such as John McCain. This is the voice of change? I can do without this type of change.

If Obama supporters received this type of call, it would be on every news channel and talk show in the nation. Immediately the political hacks on the news channels would be telling us how Bill and Hillary are practicing dirty tricks. I can almost bet I will hear nothing of this on any of the news channels, and if it does appear, we will probably hear that Bill and Hillary did it to help their cause.

After watching Obama on tv the other night, I now see in him a mean and hateful streak. He is no saint and he would be a disaster as a president. If he thinks he is being mistreated now, just wait until the Republicans get hold of him.

What is it with Americans? They look for a rock star or a movie star for their leader. Why is it other countries depend on strong leaders who have accomplished something?

How sad that Americans are so willing to accept just talk without a plan.

Posted by: davidcorse | January 24, 2008 3:02 AM | Report abuse

A DEMOCRATIC CALL TO CONSCIENCE ...

"The struggle of man against power is the struggle of memory against forgetting."

--Milan Kundera

In the 1960s, Mississippi sharecroppers facing nightsticks and police dogs stirred the conscience of a nation by wearing signs that said simply: "I am a man."

Later, Cesar Chavez's United Farmworkers Union, facing a television debate with a slick corporate spokesperson, offered up a poor woman who picked grapes to feed her family as their representative--and she wiped the floor with the growers' shill.

Today, the Clinton machine is eyeball to eyeball with an America that does not want to re-live the 1990s, the scandals, the shame, the spectacle of our White House transformed into a bordello.

If you are tired of the Clintons' lying, race coding and defaming and distorting the record of some of the party's best and brightest, there is a solution.

We can take back the party ... by drawing on the lessons community activists taught us in the 1960s and 1970s during the heyday of the civil rights movement.

All it will take is a zerox machine, a tape recorder, or a video set-up.

And a willingness to stand up and be counted.

Go to your next Democratic Party meeting.

Bring with you copies of Nation magazine Katha Pollitt's article on Bill Clinton's alleged involvement in the Juanita Broaddrick sexual assault scandal (http://www.thenation.com/doc/19990322/pollitt).

Take too, one of the original Washington Post stories on the same subject (www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/broaddrick022599.htm).

Also, bring a tape recording or DVD of the Juanita Broaddrick interview in which she talks of her personal experiences with the Clintons. ... And make sure you can play it loudly. (www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KZ8ICvutc0)

Just for giggles, also take with you a paperback version of the book "No One Left To Lie to" by British-American writer and human rights activist Christopher Hitchens'--and make a lot of copies of the chapter on "Is There a Rapist in the Oval Office?"

Recently Hitchens reminded that the essay "has never been challenged by anybody in the fabled Clinton 'rapid response' team.)

"Yet one constantly reads that both Clintons, including the female who helped intensify the slanders against her mistreated sisters, are excellent on women's 'issues.'"

Share these with your fellow Democrats at party meetings before your state holds a caucus or primary.

Ask them to listen to their consciences.

Ask them if they want the divisiveness, examples of disrepect for women, and union busting friendships (Wal-Mart, Marc Rich, you know the drill), that would surely come with another Clinton presidency.

Ask them if the country can afford such a spectacle as the economy tanks and young men and women are fighting and dying for our freedom many miles from our shores.

Daniel Patrick Moynihan once said that everyone is entitled to his own opinion but not his own facts.

And we Democrats are entitled to expect decency, fair play, and coherence from our candidates as they pretend to represent us at the polls.

Posted by: Martinedwinandersen | January 24, 2008 12:56 AM | Report abuse

The same old tired Obama idiots, posting the same old tired lies with nothing to support their assertions. Just think, someday, someone will google you and find out your secrets. You're all brain-washed cultists.

Posted by: brigittepj | January 23, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

WHEN MRS. CLINTON WINS, I WOULD LIKE

A JOB IN HER

CABINET!

THE CLINTON'S ARE ALL AMERICAN.

MAY GOD BLESS

THEM!

Posted by: eaglewon46 | January 23, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Equally apalling and malicious stuff is circulating about Obama too. The Clintons have been in the public eye for 16 years, so it means they likely have more whackos going after them. This kind of sensational garbage shouldn't be dignified with Washington Post coverage.

Posted by: katefranklin60 | January 23, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: jameswhanger | January 23, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: jameswhanger | January 23, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Well, I don't know if Billary had to pay for it, but Hitchens does capture the essence of the Clintons rather well.

Posted by: jameswhanger | January 23, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

jameswhanger:

I did not say that Bill Clinton turned the Oval Office into a massage parlor -- please read my posts a bit more carefully -- Christopher Hitchens brought that up, and I questioned it.

Posted by: JakeD | January 23, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Jake, She DOES continue to accept his infidelity... But you are right in that I don't know whether she actually seeks out his sexual partners for him, or takes payment for it... Do you?

Posted by: jameswhanger | January 23, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Also Jake, if Bill's presidential term was in fact a massage parlor as you say, then I'd have to say Hillary was the metaphorical Madame.

Posted by: jameswhanger | January 23, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

LOL, jameswhanger -- what part of "I couldn't convince ANY Democrats back then to throw Bill (and Hillary) out of the White House" are you having a problem understanding -- I would never vote for Hillary Clinton in a million years. My question to Hitchens stands: I think it is highly unlikely that President HILLARY Clinton would turn the Oval Office into a massage parlor -- do you?

Posted by: JakeD | January 23, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Jake, I'm afraid you've seemed to miss the point of the article. The point of the article is about the extent to which the Clintons abuse, lie, and deny. If that doesn't bother your sense of morality even a little, Jake, then you might want to do a bit of self-reflection.

Posted by: jameswhanger | January 23, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

James:

I did read that Christopher Hitchens piece and wondered: "Does he really think that HILLARY is going to turn the Oval Office into a massage parlor?"

Posted by: JakeD | January 23, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

This is why people believe Obama and not the Clintons http://www.slate.com/id/2182065

Posted by: jameswhanger | January 23, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Clinton is mired in controversy, ranging from:

1) turning $1000 into $100000 in cattle futures,
2) to Whitewater,
3) to being found guilty of lying while she was at the White House,
4) to having an open relationship with her husband condoning his affairs with other women,
5) to large earmarks for private developers who then turned around and financed and campaigned for her,
6) to falsely attacking Obama as a pro-life candidate for voting "present" in New Hampshire.

Her husband Bill Clinton says he consulted her on every major decision. Does that include Rwanda, and his decision to stand by and watch genocide kill hundreds of thousands of people? She is firmly entrenched with Bill and the establishment, at best a dirty politician who knows everything there is to know about our political system. The Republicans are so sure she is the next Democratic nominee that there's even a movie set to release.

http://www.hillarythemovie.com/

Posted by: greg_martin8 | January 23, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Well, first of all, I don't think Bill Clinton is "lying" about Obama not being opposed to the Iraq war since Obama did, in fact, vote to fund it -- second, I didn't know you were reaching all the way back to Monica -- I agree that he was "lying" then, but I couldn't convince ANY Democrats back then!! Maybe if the U.S. Senate had thrown Bill (and Hillary) out of the White House back then, we wouldn't be facing this today?

Regardless, even if the accusations are 100% true -- they are still ACCUSATIONS -- so, that's not what I was asking. You said (or cut and paste): "But we're not going to make any accusations."

Posted by: JakeD | January 23, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Dear Jake,

THAT is public record ...

Didn't have sex with Monica?

Wasn't warned by Ted Kennedy to stop injecting race into the contest?

Not lying about Obama and the Iraq War?

Clean slate!
Barack Obama!
'08!!

Posted by: Martinedwinandersen | January 23, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Martin:

Are you supporting Obama? How is it not "mak[ing] any accusations" to claim that Bill Clinton is "lying, race-coding elections and trashing some of the best and brightest of the Democratic Party"?

Posted by: JakeD | January 23, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

CLINTON, ANGER AND A QUESTION OF RAPE

Bill Clinton likes to say, "You've got to do what you've got to do."

For him, that means lying, race-coding elections and trashing some of the best and brightest of the Democratic Party.

Well, we've got to do what we've got to do.

But we're not going to make any accusations.

We are just going to let Democrats make their own judgment.

We do believe a party of change cannot be a party to corruption and good government starts with personal responsibility, a quality neither of the Clintons can claim.

Here is some reporting from reputable sources that might allow Democrats decide whether we believe what we say we do--including in women's rights--or are, dare I say, "shameless."

Katha Pollitt of the liberal Nation Magazine, an improbable ally of Hillary's "vast rightwing conspiracy" has reported that(http://www.thenation.com/doc/19990322/pollitt ):

"We will never know the truth behind Juanita Broaddrick's claim that Bill Clinton raped her in a Little Rock hotel room in l978. The most you can say about it, which is also the least you can say about it, is that her story is credible ... investigations by NBC News and reporting from the Washington Post poked no major holes in it.

"She has as much corroboration as Anita Hill--friends who say she told them about the assault at the time, one of whom says she saw her immediately after with a bruised and swollen lip. ... the best Clinton's defenders can come up with is that rape doesn't fit his 'MO'--as if, after all the backing and filling and prevaricating and outright lying, we know what this man's MO really is."

More recently Christopher Hitchens, also of the independent left, has written
(http://www.slate.com/id/2182065 ):
"In my opinion, Gennifer Flowers was telling the truth; so was Monica Lewinsky, and so was Kathleen Willey, and so, lest we forget, was Juanita Broaddrick, the woman who says she was raped by Bill Clinton.... Yet one constantly reads that both Clintons, including the female who helped intensify the slanders against her mistreated sisters, are excellent on women's "issues."

Then there was one of the original Washington Post stories, "Clinton Accuser's Story Aired"
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics... ), that was very sympathetic to Ms. Broaddrick:

"Juanita Broaddrick told her story to a national television audience last night, saying she did not tell authorities 21 years ago of her contention that Bill Clinton sexually assaulted her because 'I just don't think anyone would have believed me.'

"In a gripping account punctuated by sobs, the Arkansas woman told "Dateline NBC" that in her Little Rock hotel room, Clinton suddenly 'turned me around and started kissing me, and that was a real shock. I first pushed him away. I just told him 'no.'... He tries to kiss me again. He starts biting on my lip.... And then he forced me down on the bed. I just was very frightened. I tried to get away from him. I told him 'no.'... He wouldn't listen to me.'

The media seems more interested in covering the presidential "horse race" than looking at hard truths while professional "women's rights activists", whistle softly and look past the individual carnage and the possibilities for a reprise of Oval Office embarrassment.

Martin Edwin Andersen is the 2001 winner of the U.S. Office of Special Counsel's "Public Servant Award" for uncovering, what the the U.S. Department of Justice's Inspector called, "egregious misconduct" and "willful disregard for national security" by senior aides to Attorney General Janet Reno in a major corruption and security scandal at the DOJ.

Posted by: Martinedwinandersen | January 23, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

olivia:

Can you imagine if the next robo-calls simply quote some of Obama's pastor's sermons?

jcarlosluna:

"Propaganda" from me?? Although I have questions about rayjlauz's post, he has every right to post it.

Posted by: JakeD | January 23, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Bottom Line:

Like all of you. I know that health care is the most critical, and important issue facing the American people. Now, and in the coming elections. And like the vast majority of the American people, I want HR 676 (Medicare For All) passed into law NOW! "Single payer, Tax Supported, Not For Profit, True Universal Health Care" free for all as a right. Like every other developed country in the world has. See: http://www.house.gov/conyers/news_hr676.htm

"HR 676:
For church goers: less money to insur. companies and more to the church- lots more.
Srs on Medicare: save way over $100/wk. Because no more medigap, long term care & dental insur. needed. No more drug bills."

But if we the American people fail to bring enough pressure on our current politicians to get HR 676 passed into law before the elections. We will have to identify, and replace all the politicians standing in the way of passage of HR 676. And, I think the best first place to start is with the politicians that blocked the bipartisan SCHIP bills for the kids. Passed by congress twice.

But what about the President. It was Bush after all that blocked the bipartisan SCHIP bill passed by congress to assure more health coverage for Americas kids. So which of the presidential hopefuls do I think will be most supportive of implementing the demand of the majority of the American people to have HR 676 (Medicare For All) passed into law immediately!

We have some very fine presidential candidates who would make good presidents. But none of the top Presidential candidates directly support HR 676, the only true Universal Health Care plan. So I am supporting Hillary Clinton. She is the only top candidate that has ever actually fought for universal health care before.

I have enormous admiration, and respect for Hillary Clinton. She fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds back in 1993. To prevent this disastrous health care crisis that is now devastating the American people, and America. She fought so hard for the American people that she risk almost completely destroying her husbands presidency. I haven't forgotten her heroic effort. If any Presidential hopeful for universal health care deserves my support, it's her.

Also, if we the American people fail to bring enough pressure on our government to give us HR 676 which we all so desperately need NOW! Then we will need the most skilled politician we can get on our side to broker the best health care plan for the American people that we can get. Though it will be less than we need, and less than we deserve. The politician I think to best do this is Hillary Clinton. The Clinton's are probably the most skilled politicians in American history.

The insurance industry, and medical industry that has been ripping you off, and killing you has given Hillary Clinton so much money because they fear her. They have also given Barack Obama so much money because they fear Hillary Clinton. They think they can manipulate Barack Obama against the best interest of the American people better than they can manipulate Hillary Clinton. There is no race issue with Hillary Clinton. The Clinton's are the poster family for how African Americans want white people to be towards African Americans.

As always, African Americans are suffering, and dieing in this health care crisis at a much higher rate than any other group in America. The last time there was any significant drop in the African American death rate was when Bill Clinton was president.

My fellow Americans, you are dieing needlessly at an astounding rate. In higher numbers than any other people in the developed world. Rich, and poor a like. Insured, and uninsured. Men, women, children, and babies. And we the American people must stop it. And fix it NOW! Keep Fighting!!! Never! give up hope. There are millions of lives at stake. Bless you all... You are doing great!

Posted by: JackSmith1 | January 23, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Clinton campaign should do their own phone message. Starting with the Trinity Church of Christ. Obama's chruch for the last 20 years and his pastor who gave an award to a fellow who has extreme hate on other races.

Posted by: oliviajimenez711 | January 23, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Great "reporting" from Kevin Merida. He - not the "teen consultant" - is the one calling it "nasty". Meanwhile, he portrays the "teen consultant" as the very paradigm of purity, as she "takes young people on self-esteem retreats".

Articles like this are really better in the original Russian.


Posted by: LonewackoDotCom | January 23, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

"You live for this. This hurts the people of South Carolina," he said. "Because the people of South Carolina come to these meetings and ask questions about what they care about. And what they care about is not what's going to be in the news coverage tonight, because you don't care about it.

Is the media playing the race card issue or is it the candidates?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=1622

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Posted by: jeffboste | January 23, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

I am tired of all the propaganda from rayjlauz or JakeD. It takes almost 2 screens in my computer and the comments are repeated in other washingtonpost stories. Is there a moderator that can cut this propaganda?

Posted by: jcarlosluna | January 23, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

rayjlauz:

You want Obama to say ALL of that?! He only has until February 5th, you know?

Posted by: JakeD | January 23, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Someone please pass this on to Baracks Campaign.

Dear Barack,
I hope you get to read this but I doubt it will ever get to your attention.
I firmly believe that if you want to win over the American people, all of us!!!
Then please take off the gloves and say what needs to be said about the Clintons, and their campaign.
After seeing the debate the other night with you going at it with Hillary it became very clear what you NEED TO SAY, AND MUST SAY in order to finally settle the debate over who would be best to serve the American people as our next president of the US!!

• You stated that you were not sure who you were running against, her Husband Bill or Her.
• She claimed well alright it is me; I am standing here not him.
Ask the American people if they really want these 2 people back in the white house.

Ask the American people if they can be trusted to uphold the constitution,

The president makes decisions, appoints offices etc!! Will that be Hillary herself, or will Bill be advising, making decisions etc!! Because the constitution states that after a President has served his or her term, they can no longer service and or make decisions that effect the Government of the US!!!

Who will be in charge, who will answer the phone at 3 am next to the bed when it rings!!
Who will make policy, the president or the first man, who happens to be an EX President of the US!!
Why are they only together at major events seen holding hands at national interest? Societal interests? Major events etc!! and at the same time you are both campaigning they are not even in the same state, let alone the same room!!! It is obvious to all of us that they are longer areviable couple and that should be exploited!!!

There is considerable evidence publicly available that shows they stole and pillaged the white house when they left office, and then returned many items, not to mention the state of the economy that was left for the next president to reconcile.
And what about the national security interests that were ignored that led to INFAMOUS DAYOF 911, can that day really be blamed on the current Administration when the plans for the attack were started MANY years earlier while Bill Clinton was President!!

I hope this MAY SOMEHOW help your conquest and your campaign BUT I AM SURE ALL OF YOU ADVISERS HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS BEFORE.

I will tell you this just to make a point.
Demographically speaking this is where I stand:
I am a white male
47 yrs old,
Political affiliation: independent, conservative leaning but open to change, new ideas etc!!!
Free thinking, believe in efficient but less controlling GOV. and less TAXES!!!
This is not about the Race or Gender Card, and anybody that is actually registered and will vote, as I do, will see and know the difference and vote accordingly!!!

I will also state that I believe there are hundreds of thousands if not millions of men and woman my age, born between 1954+ 1968, that think and vote the way I do, and also believe in certain principles and will act on them accordingly. We can also detect fraud and deception and I think that is what the Clintons are all about and if you do some polls within the age group I am speaking of I think I will be right on!! I know that many women despise Hillary, and Bill for that matter for what his womanizing past reveals, and you must not be afraid to bring up the past, state the obvious and watch Hillary squirm on stage trying to lie her way out of all the documented, yet supposedly forgotten past.
We the AMERICAN People are not that stupid!!
And it will only prove your ability to lead and or defend the Country as a president if you are willing to take on the tough / forbidden /taboo issues, that is what America WANTS AND NEEDS FROM a LEADER!!!

Good Luck in the Primaries and at the Convention, I am on your side!!
If you ever actually read this I would love a response,
I think you have what it takes to be President so don't give up the fight know matter how hard the Clintons push!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: rayjlauz | January 23, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

I agree that Morrow has First Amendment Rights to criticize the disreputable Clintons. So why the fuss?

What is more bothersome is the spectre of those two egomaniacs occupying the White House, commencing in 09. Slick Willie will create public policy chaos by second-guessing cabinet officers, and influencing his spineless wife.

The citizenry deserve a reputable Demo Prez candidate, whose mate is not going to serve as co-president; that person is Obama. Forrest Gerard

Posted by: fgerard | January 23, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Here's a transcript -- as provided by Robert Morrow to TPM -- let me know if there's anything there someone thinks is proven FALSE:

"HILLARY TREATS PEOPLE LIKE THEY INVISIBLE
Hello. FBI agent Gary Aldrich says that Hillary on Inauguration Day, 1993 was in an uncontrolled and unbridled fury, yelling and screaming profanities, because she was not allowed to have Vice President Al Gore's office in the White House. Hillary treats people like they are invisible; can you trust her?

Hillary knew about and helped cover up Bill's rape of Juanita Broaddrick. Hillary treats women like they are invisible; can you trust her?

Hillary hired Jack Palladino to run a terror campaign on Kathleen Willey to keep her quiet about what Bill had done to her. They nail gunned her car tires and stole or killed her pet cat named Bullseye. Hillary thinks cats are expendable; can you trust her?

After Bill pulled down his britches and EXPOSED himself to Paula Jones, Hillary's friend James Carville said "Drag a hundred dollar bill through a trailer park, you never know what you'll find." Hillary treats women like they are invisible, can you trust her?

Hillary told TIME Magazine in June, 1996, that she was thinking about adopting a child, despite the fact Bill was having an affair with Monica and Hillary knew he had a whole harem in the White House. Hillary was having her own affairs with Vince Foster, probably Webb Hubbell and even others. Hillary makes up fairy tales about adopting an orphan child, can you trust her?

This message is from Robert Morrow on behalf of everyone who has been violated and abused by Hillary and Bill - treated like they were invisible. Hillary sure does say a lot of things, doesn't she - but can you trust her?"

Posted by: JakeD | January 23, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Murrow has a First Amendment right to express his opinion and report on allegations out there -- I haven't seen the transcript yet -- was any "sexual allegation" untrue?

Posted by: JakeD | January 23, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

RECORDS SET

- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court

Posted by: laplumelefirmament | January 23, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

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