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Bill Clinton Unloads on Press

Bill Clinton campaigned for his wife in South Carolina today. (The Washington Post).

By Anne E. Kornblut
Former president Bill Clinton lashed out in response to criticism on Wednesday from a prominent Democrat in South Carolina, accusing the Obama campaign of running a political smear campaign against him through the media.

"You live for this," Clinton snapped at CNN reporter Jessica Yellin when she asked him to comment on statements by Dick Harpootlian, the former South Carolina Democratic party chairman, who said recent distortions by the Clintons are "reprehensible."

Harpootlian, who backed the Clintons in the 1990s and now supports Sen. Barack Obama, had compared Clinton's distortions to the dirty tricks campaigns run by the infamous Republican operative Lee Atwater.

After an event on Wednesday in South Carolina, Yellin approached the former president and asked him to respond to Harpootlian's remarks. Clinton let loose on camera, chastising the reporter for asking him about political conflict rather than the substance of the meeting he had just held. "You're asking me about this, you sat through this whole meeting. Not one single, solitary soul asked about any of this. And they never do."

Referring to the Obama campaign, Clinton said: "They are feeding you this because they know this is what you want to cover." As Clinton's aides tried to steer him out the door, he continued to scold back in Yellin's direction: "Shame on you."

The outburst came as the Clinton campaign aired a new radio ad in South Carolina juxtaposing Obama's statement about Ronald Reagan's having had ideas against a list of Republican ideas - implying that Obama was praising Reagan. Harpootlian spoke out against the ad, saying in an interview with the Washington Post that it "is a lie."

"The politics of deception that they have been practicing remind me of Lee Atwater's campaigns here," Harpootlian said. "What we're seeing here is a pattern: It began with the so-called accidental statement by Shaheen about drug use, and then we see Robert Johnson up on the stage with her and they don't decry it. This is hardball politics and apparently this is the way they play ball in Arkansas.

Here's the full text of the Clinton response, according to a CNN transcript:

"I never heard a word of public complaint when Mr. Obama said Hillary was not truthful, no character, was poll-driven. He had more pollsters than she did.

"When he put out a hit job on me at the same time he called her the senator from Punjab, I never said a word. And I don't care about it today. I'm not upset about it.

"The only thing I pointed out was that there was substantially no difference in her record and his on Iraq, and that he had said in 2004 there was no difference between his position and President Bush. And he said that was somehow dishonest, but he never answers how it's not accurate. So this is crazy.

"This rhetoric is getting a little carried away here. And let me remind you, my ultimate answer is this -- there are still two people around who marched with Martin Luther King and risked their lives, John Lewis and Reverend Andrew Young. They both said that Hillary was right and the people who attacked her were wrong, and that she did not play the race card, but they did.

"So I don't have to defend myself from Dick Harpootlian. I will just refer you to John Lewis and Andrew Young. And let him go get in an argument with them about it.

"Let him go get in an argument with Dolores Huerta, one of the founders of Farm Workers, against what happened in Nevada. There is a fact here -- this is almost like once you accuse somebody of racism or bigotry, or something, the facts become irrelevant. There are facts here.

"And the final thing I would like to say is, you're asking me about this, and you sat through this whole meeting. Not one single, solitary soul asked about any of this. And they never do. They are feeding you this because they know this is what you want to cover. This is what you live for. But this hurts the people of South Carolina, because the people of South Carolina are coming to these meetings and asking questions about what they care about. And what they care about is not going to be in the news coverage tonight because you don't care about it. What you care about is this. And the Obama people know that. So they just spin you up on this and you happily go along."

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 7, 2008 8:55 AM | Report abuse

'I never heard a word of public complaint when Mr. Obama said Hillary was not truthful' says hubby.

who would complain about such an accurate statement: liars?
In fact, I believe Hillary's (named after a beekeeper in New Zealand) experience lies in lying.
Remember Mel Brooks' thousand year old man: well that's how old Hillary would have to be to have all the experience she claims?
I believe Bill Clinton owes a great deal to his wife but he better figure out another way to repay her.

Posted by: jganymede | January 28, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

In today's New York Times, Garry Wills considers who would be a potted plant in a Clinton administration, and Wills concludes that it would not be Bill.

Posted by: FirstMouse | January 26, 2008 10:27 AM | Report abuse

What the real deal here is ..... is he's right. he being Slick Willy.

Now shame on him for acting all righteous ... but he's still right.

and what he is right about is that the government and the media are so far removed from what people think and feel in reality .... that they treat us as live stock who will watch what they say we like and then say we like it because it is all that is shown, which is the only reason we watched it in the first place. and yes, if given one thing to watch ... in any media ... we will watch that one thing ... it's in our blood to be watch.

all i know is this. keep that woman out of the white house. I think that 84-2008 (24 YEARS) is more than enough time for two families to ruin our countries core.

and we need to, as sad as the cliche is, start actually speaking for ourselves and demanding that no one else speak in our place.

In truth I think that the Obama/Clinton thing is a joke with the punchline being that neither of them is fit to be our president at this time. It's been too long since we had "a leader" who was actually a Patriot and concerned those other officals around him with the needs of the country.

Posted by: goldnhorde | January 25, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

you go President Bill Clinton! They NEVER let up on you while you were President - The media sucks! We got sick of them hounding you every night and are STILL sick of them. There must be WAY too many stupid airheads graduating with a "journalist" degree.
You handled it beautifully....

Posted by: jkoons0007 | January 24, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

I have to laugh each time I read a comment about Clinton losing his temper or attacking the press with his sissy finger pointing. People need to remember who we are talking about here. This guy is a draft dodging mama's boy. I doubt that the band geek was ever even in aschool yard fight in his life. Someone needs to call him out one of these times he starts acting like a tough guy. He had his chance to be tough during Viet Nam and ran away. Viet Nam Vet and proud of it

Posted by: bklein | January 24, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

What am I missing here?
Who is Swiftboating whom?
Hmmm. Is Obama seeking Republican votes?

Obama had said: "I think it is fair to say that the Republicans were the party of ideas for a pretty long chunk of time over the last 10-15 years in the sense that they were challenging conventional wisdom".

Bill Clinton stated (about Hillary's opponent): "Her principal opponent said that since 1992, the Republicans have had all the good ideas."

Did Bill lie?


Posted by: LesterTradUSA | January 24, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Where is the desire to compete on ideas? The way the Clintons are running this campaign, it is beginning to feel like a public lynching of Obama.

Where is the integrity in Hilary's camp? To take Obamas words and twist them for campaign advantage is nothing more or less than dishonesty.

To attempt to tear Obama down, to destroy him for tactical advantage is reprehensible.

I stood by and supported Bill Clinton throughout the Lewinsky affair saying that it didn't matter - that his politics were good for the country.

This recent stuff makes me want to throw up. If Hilary gets the Democratic ticket, and the Democratic establishment doesn't speak out against her tactics, I will not vote for a Democrat who wasn't against her, ever again.

Posted by: filtechwest | January 24, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

LMAO at Clinton and character being in the same sentence.

next.......

Posted by: vitana1900 | January 24, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Another hit piece by Anne E. Kornblut, How sad! Chris Matthews will have you on his show soon.

Posted by: pedjr336 | January 24, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Billary lost the congress in 94, as a result they had to buckle to all their demands.

And yes I am better off, though I recognize we need to invest in this country. Unfortunately Billary supported this idiotic war that is bleeding us dry, thousands dead and maimed. Trillions lost. Hmm...Could the war and the economy correlate?

Guess the Billary "strategery" to get back in to the WH, didn't include doing the actual HARD work and reading the NIE report. No, they were too bored and needed to "have fun" "strategerizing" for an election, at the expense of the party and our country.

Posted by: vitana1900 | January 24, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

PRAISE CLINTON WITH PLEASURE

GDP--rose from 6,300 to 11,600
NATIONAL INCOME-5,000 to 8,000 Billion--
JOBS CREATED--237,000 per month to replace Jimmy Carter record
of 218,000.
AVERAGE WEEKLY EARNINGS--$360 to $478
AVERAGE WEEKLY HOURS WORKED--never hit 35.0--hit that mark 4
times in 80's
UNEMPLOYMENT--from 7.2% down down down to as low as 3.9%
MINIMUM WAGE--$4.25 to $5.15
MINORITIES--did exceedingly well
HOME OWNERSHIP--hit all time high (no big deal most can say
this-except Reagan)
DEFICIT--290 Billion to whoopee a SURPLUS
DEBT----+28%---300% increase over prior 12 years by
Conservatives.
FEDERAL SPENDING--+28%---+80% under Reagan- who is da true
conservative?
DOW JONES AVERAGE--3,500 to 11,720 top in 2000. All it's
history to get to 3500 and Clinton zooms it
NASDAQ--700 to 5,000 top in 2000.---All of it's history to
get to 700 and Clinton zooms it
VALUES INDEXES-- almost all bad went down--good went up in
zoom zoom zoom
FOREIGN AFFAIRS--Peace on Earth good will toward each
other---Mark of a true Christian--what has Bush done to Peace
on Earth?
POPULARITY---highest poll ratings in history during peacetime
in AFRICA, ASIA AND EUROPE . Even 98.5% in Moscow--left
office with Highest Gallup rating since it was started in
1920's.
STAND UP FOR JUSTICE--evil conservatives spent $110,000,000
on hearings and investigations and caught one very evil man
who took a few plane rides to events.
BOW YOUR HEADS--"Thank you God for sending us a man of Bill
Clinton's character, intelligence, knowledge of governance,
ability to face up to crises without whimpering and a great
leader of the world. Amen".

THANK YOU GOD FOR THE GOOD TIMES THE CLINTON YEARS.

Posted by: pedjr336 | January 24, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

What bull. The man did not raise his voice, he did not "snap" at the reporter, he did not "lash out." He merely stated his disagreement with her statements and the statements of Hartpootlian. Another classic example of a reporter saying, "Let's you and him fight." Clinton didn't fall for it.

As for all the Clinton-haters populating the comments with canned poop from Rush and the like:

Are you better off now than you were 8 year ago? Are you?

Eight years ago, this country had a budget surplus. Now it's gone, and we're spending $500,000 a minute to fund a war that accomoplishes nothing. Come to think of it, eight years ago, we weren't at war. Eight years ago, gas didn't cost $3 a gallon.

But go ahead, fiddle away, while this country continues to decline and the current administration squanders what little weath and prosperity we have left.

Posted by: memphis1 | January 24, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

I find the Clinton supporters to be as untruthful as their leaders. They know the Clintons have been baiting Obama for months. He starts defending himself and now the Clintons are the victims.

It really is insanity.

I remind people to look at the pattern and when Bill squints a little, points and wags his finger, then moves his lips. IT'S A LIE. Plain and simple. There are No excuses.

Come on give me a break. I defended him during the impeachment mess, because I didn't feel a hummer was an impeachable offense. I still think Republicans took it too far. The mere scandal had already screwed his legacy. Now noone has an appetite to impeach GWB for real crimes and misdemeanors. Why? because the wagging fingered liar has made the thought untenable.

Anyone actually believe he didn't inhale? I thought everyone took it as a joke.

If his friend Andrew Young says he has more black women than Barack and Bob Kerry says he is an unusually good liar.

FIGURE IT OUT. And no you don't have to stay at a holiday express. Really you don't.

Posted by: vitana1900 | January 24, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

This is what I have been saying along. The media loves Obama and they hate Hllary( well hate is pretty strong). Bill is right. where was the media when Obama was calling Hllary all those things? and, Obama was "riding the fence" with his comment about the "Republicans being the party of ideas", no matter what "context " he was saying them in that inerview. So he can comlpain all he wants about the "truthfullness". He never said they were good ideas, but he also never said they were "bad" ideas. He was pandering to a conservative newspaper editorail board.
Why is that important? Because, if Hillary had made that same remark, or had pandered to the Right( which she has in the past) she would be taken to task by the media and the Obama and Edwards camps.Oh, and by the way, when she did this in the past, she was beating up by the Dems and the media for this. They called it pandering.
So, I ask you, where is the fairness?
Why is OK for Obama to pander( or has he says"reaching across the political divide") , but when Hillary does it it's pandering?
Obama was playing it safe with that "party of ideas" comment just like he was playing it safe on his absence on the Kyl-Lieberman amendment vote, and probalably many of his present votes in Ill. State House. As President, you can't just play it safe by not deciding.
This whole time the media( and the Dems) let him have a free pass. He wants it both ways.
The media did this with Bush in 2000 and 2004 and Gore and Kerry were skewered( just like they are doing to Hillary now).
Obama's supporters are very passionate, as are Hillary supporters. But, no matter who wins this election one side will have to swallow the passion and pride they have for their respect candidate and vote to unify the party. From some of the blogs I have been reading, it seems like the Obama supporters will have a hard time doing this. That is sad. When it comes down to it, these two candidates are not that far apart from each other on policies or passion.

So, Bill is right. The media seems to be too focused on the horse race rather then big picture and the issues. And the Obama camp knows that the media will defend him .

Posted by: bake201 | January 24, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Anne Kornblut is either confident her readers will not click through and watch the video, or she is plainly mistaken in her perceptions of Pres Clinton's demeanor. Either way, she is harmful to our political discourse and ought to be replaced with someone capable and responsible.

Posted by: zukermand | January 24, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

All the horse-race coverage and he-said/she-said "reporting" by you people who call yourself "journalists" is disgusting. Haven't you seen the polls, which state clearly that people in the US want reporters to cover ISSUES, not the horse race?

It's really sad how tilted your stories are. Also, having seen the articles and appearances by Kornblut, author of this piece, you are hardly a "journalist". You mostly care about the Clinton's sex lives and the typical DC parlor games. Can you do us a favor as a country and actually practice journalism? If not, please just resign.

Posted by: thegris | January 24, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

This is the Rove dirtbook - chapter one, page one, item one. Whatever else is going on, be sure to squall at the beginning of every day that your enemies are doing everything you are doing.
The "now-the-fun-begins" Clintons started playing dirty right after they realized in Iowa that their DLC, which has been so successful in coopting the two-party system, might lose in the primaries, thereby losing some of their power over the Democratic party.
Their damn-the-Democratic-Party strategy, to divide black from Latino voters in the West, and play to the racism of white voters in the South, is completely visible, completely predictable, and pure Rove.
The Clintons are campaigning with their customary absence of dignity, integrity, or any shred of morality; they will do anything to win the nomination and if it means they divide the party and lose the election - well, that's what the DLC did in 2000 and 2004. And that's what the DLC is doing now in both houses of Congress, supporting the Bush administration right off the cliff.
We know, or ought to know, that the Clintons and the DLC, who control the Democratic party machine, will not support, in any meaningful way, any nominee but themselves.
Remember what DLC Democrats did to prevent progressive candidates from running, all across the country in 2006? Remember that the DLC, and much of the Democratic party, withheld support from Ned Lamont in Connecticut and ensured Lieberman's return to the Senate?
And by the way - Obama is exactly right: the viciousness and dishonesty that distinguishes the Clinton campaign will mean that there are a growing number of voters who will not support the Clintons in a general election.
Saying that of course will trigger another volley of spittle from Bill, but it's a fact that it's suicidal for the Democrats to nominate the Clintons. They are, right now, with their gutter campaign, ensuring the loss of the trust, enthusiasm, and hard work of too many of the Democratic voters in this country in the general election. Bill and Hillary are owned by the same corporate establishment that has come so close to destroying the heart and soul of this country, and they are working to win a corrupted nomination by dividing the Democratic party, perhaps for years. Thanks, Hillary. And thanks again, Bill, for embarrassing yourself and your party with your cynical behavior and your tiresome self-pity and righteous indignation. And. Go. Away.

Posted by: rrooks | January 24, 2008 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Frankly I am very disappointed with Sen Obama. He is doing the same twisting and turning he accuses the Clinton's of doing. Reading the whole text it is obvious that reports are slanted against the President. Kornblut and Yellin are, basically, sh*t stirrers. They do this all the time.

The pity is that Blacks in Southern Carolina, with their history of strife and suffering, are a dignified people who are smarter that most people give them credit for. If they vote for Obama I will say that's fine. It is their choice. But I won't call it a race vote. I will say itis from their hearts.

For myself I am very disappointed with Obama, and with the Democrats in Congress. they are a craven bunch and the Republicans have been kicking their collective bottoms consistently.

Posted by: bitterpill8 | January 24, 2008 8:09 AM | Report abuse

Good for Bill! Jessica Yellin, is yet another CNN stooge, just like John King and Wolf "I'm scared of Dick Cheney" Blitzer. The press is so anti-Hillary, it's pathetic...yet she keeps winning:)

Posted by: devin79 | January 24, 2008 5:20 AM | Report abuse

People, WATCH THE CLIP. There was NO "outburst", NO "snapping", NO "lashing". The writer of this story is mis-characterizing the exchange.

This piece is very similar in it's blatant dishonesty to another story I just read about at Huffington Post that fabricates Barack Obama going off at a reporter.

The lesson seems to be: Criticize a "reporter" while they are trying to draw you into yet another tabloid stink-fest and you will get blatantly misrepresenteded in retaliation.

Posted by: sketchartist | January 24, 2008 2:40 AM | Report abuse

I think this video says it all about the Clintons:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjVYh4IjAM0

Thanks,
Phil


Posted by: PHIL_STEPHENSON | January 24, 2008 1:37 AM | Report abuse

I just want to make a point that it's NOT a bunch of Obama supporters making the vile, dishonest, attacks. But-Clinton supporters, this is a mild preview of what you'll get if Hillary is the nominee.

Hillary cannot win the general. It's not just the "right wing conspiracy". If she were nominated, PACs and 527's would rise up ALL OVER to take down Clinton.

And as far as Bill Clinton's comments go, he is, again, race-baiting. Blaming Obama for inserting race into the campaign, when he, Bill Clinton, is actually the one doing it- by his comments. Anyone notice Bill didn't actually have any information to back up his accusation against Obama?

More unsubstantiated, damaging lies from Bill Clinton.

At least now i think people are starting to catch on.

Posted by: julieds | January 24, 2008 1:35 AM | Report abuse

I was a supporter of Hillary until I saw Bill aggressively responding to a reporter in Nevada. He has continued to revel in his chance to get back on the campaign trail. He likes to see Hillary and Barack fight. This is the fun part, he says. Meanwhile, Hillary said "this isn't a game" during her teary moment in NH. Bill's a good politician; so was Rove. It makes me sick.

Hillary is good on policy, but I don't want to watch 4 or more years of the Clintons at war with the Republicans while 75 percent of the country drops out of the political process. Bill is addicted to the sport of politics. I want someone who can govern, not fight. I'll watch ESPN for that, where there are rules and refs. Finally we Democrats can say, hey Bill. You screwed it up for Al Gore, we got GW and we're going to take years to recover. Get off the stage.

Posted by: browndoe | January 24, 2008 1:24 AM | Report abuse

" you live for this " great irony. an ex president complains when he is called out- essentially because he has campaigned in an unprecedented and undignified way. the real problem is the clintons have no hope to unite the democratic party. many will split their ticket and vote against HRC if she is nominated. so many red state elected democrats see the problem w/ an HRC nomination. how long before the clintons realize this ? the problem is that they are willing to roll the dice for a chance at dynasty.

Posted by: jacade | January 24, 2008 1:23 AM | Report abuse

The majority of Americans do NOT wanta re-run of the Clinton years. If they are nominated, the Democrats will lose the presidency once again and maybe the House and Senate. If that happens, the Democratic Party may go the way of the Whigs.

Posted by: Lilly1 | January 24, 2008 12:27 AM | Report abuse

I suggest that everyone who cares, check out Judicial Watch and their report on the release of the government documents concerning the Clinton's plans for national health care during their administration. The following is a quote from Judicial Watch but you can read the released documents yourself and draw your own conclusions. "These documents paint a disturbing picture of how Hillary Clinton and the Clinton administration approached health care reform - secrecy, smears, and the misuse of government computers to track private and political information on citizens," said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. "There are millions more documents that the Library has yet to release. The Clintons continue to play games and pretend they have nothing to do with this delay. The Clintons should get out of the way and authorize the release of these records now."
I wonder why the big media outlets are not showing or covering in anyway these newly released documents?

Posted by: ekim53 | January 24, 2008 12:06 AM | Report abuse

its pretty significant that andrew young's endorsed hillary and that no one's reported on this:
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/shared-blogs/ajc/politicalinsider/entries/2007/12/07/the_video_you_have_to_see_andy.html

Posted by: kire106 | January 24, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Clinton's remarks contain another falsehood.

The "senator from Punjab" remark was made by a member of the Obama staff, not Obama. And as soon as Obama heard about it he put a stop to it.

Posted by: esaid405 | January 24, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

I suggest that everyone who cares, check out Judicial Watch and their report on the release of the government documents concerning the Clinton's plans for national health care during their administration. The following is a quote from Judicial Watch but you can read the released documents yourself and draw your own conclusions. "These documents paint a disturbing picture of how Hillary Clinton and the Clinton administration approached health care reform - secrecy, smears, and the misuse of government computers to track private and political information on citizens," said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. "There are millions more documents that the Library has yet to release. The Clintons continue to play games and pretend they have nothing to do with this delay. The Clintons should get out of the way and authorize the release of these records now."
I wonder why the big media outlets are not showing or covering in anyway these newly released documents?

Posted by: ekim53 | January 24, 2008 12:01 AM | Report abuse

Once again Clinton is right, the press are jerks and Im getting sick and tired of Obama and his supporters and their constant whinning and complaining. This guy thinks the election is about him and when he talks about hope, I keep thinking, "hope for what"? the only thing Obama hopes for is Obama and getting elected and we are already getting the garbage from his campaign trying to insinuate that anyone challenging him, crticizing him or pointing out the stupidity of his statements is "trying to stand in the way of the first black President".As every day goes by I see him as a total fraud and snake oil salesman.And his comments about Reagan and the Republicans being the party of ideas is anathma to anyone who wasnt in a coma the last 20 years. And to hear him try and weasel his way out of his statements he becomes more and more convuluted with each sentence. No wonder the press likes him.

Posted by: mdr094 | January 23, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

The Master BSer must be striking out with the interns lately or his terminal hemorrhoids are acting up.

Posted by: ekim53 | January 23, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Hillary said something about realizing that both their spouses were passionate about standing besides them, if I was Obama I would have said, no Hillary, your spouse cheated on you, mine did not, thi sis not how spouses stand beside their better halves....wooo! I can imagine the applause has Oabam b1tch slapped hillary over Bill like that....but hey, thats just me.

Posted by: obee1 | January 23, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

2006: Bill Clinton Invested Tens of Thousands In An Indian Bill Payment Company. According to Hillary Clinton's personal financial disclosure form, as part his ownership of WJC Investments, LP LLC, Bill Clinton held between $15,001 and $50,000 worth of stock in Easy Bill Limited, an Indian company. According to thecompany's website, "Functioning as a one-stop bill payment shop, Easy Bill facilitates payment of utility billsas well as recharging of pre-paid mobile connections at a place the consumer is already familiar andcomfortable with the neighbourhood store."

Posted by: obee1 | January 23, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Well the "fun part" as Hillary says..... will be the new scandals and here's what we should be looking forward to.

With Andrew Young's most recent comments that "Bill has had more black women than Obama."

We can now ask:

Where, when and how did these trysts occur?

In NY? or while he was Caribbean Island hopping, smoking our best cigars?

How old were these girls? Do their parents know?

As old as Monica?

So guys don't despair. It's a new and improved Billary. We won't have to suffer the old Lewinsky battles anymore.

What a relief!!!!!!!!!

If anyone thinks the republicans didn't laugh their asses off when that comment came out and will use it more ruthlessly than I am now........I suggest the land of insanity and denial. Where one repeats the same thing over and over again and expects a different result.

Good luck defending the Clintons this time. Been there, done that.

Posted by: vitana1900 | January 23, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

What happened to my comments? Are you putting in comments that trash the Clintons and not the ones that support them?

Posted by: hazwalnut | January 23, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton is a fraud.

He accuses the Obama camp if the same thing he is doing to Obama. i.e. a hit job.

Mr and Mrs Clinton are tag teaming Obama into submission and Obama is right when he says he does not know who he is running up against.

I hate the Clintons now, I used to vote for them and admire them, but they are desperate to win and will say or do anything to win. I dont like the way Mrs Clinton has injected a typical female b!tchiness in the entire campaign.

Posted by: obee1 | January 23, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

It is sad when the Washington Post has nothing better to do than try to sway voters. Why don't you go ahead and endorse the Republican candidate that you're hoping for. Obviously, you are attempting to have Democrats represented by Senator Obama, a nice guy I guess but no match for the Republican smear mongers. We are watching you very carefully and keeping track of your articles, especially Miss Kornblut's. If we could only get a few professionals covering this campaign, what a wonderful,
world it would be. The Clintons are saints to put up with you people. The more you do this the more we contribute to Hillary's campaign.

Posted by: hazwalnut | January 23, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

lpeter59:

Thanks for answering my question -- obviously, it's not just this "idiot" who's taking the pledge to NOT vote for Hillary if she gets the nomination -- see you in November . . .

=======

Let's just hope your all powerful vote doesn't get wedged behind the voting machine or canceled out by me.

Posted by: lpeter59 | January 23, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

I, seriously, fail to see any reason why people would vote for Hillary. Our State election boards need to check the voting machines EXTENSIVELY!

Everyone that knows anyone that has anything to do with the voting machines needs to push them to investigate the Dibold voting machines!

Posted by: theman_in_black | January 23, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: jameswhanger | January 23, 2008 11:22 PM | Report abuse

The only Democratic presidential candidate in this campaign who as late as two years ago supported torture (and by that name) was Hillary Clinton.

(See the Politico.com story "Hillary backs off support for torture" [www.politico.com/news/stories/0907/6050.html])

Bill Clinton reportedly even now still backs torture (which explains his behavior on the campaign trail).

As a long-time human rights advocate, I am supporting Barack Obama.

For me, supporting a candidate who supported torture just two years ago is the moral equivalent of supporting a candidate who supported racial segregation just two years ago.

Martin Edwin Andersen

Clean slate !!!
Barack Obama,
'08 !!!

Posted by: Martinedwinandersen | January 23, 2008 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Bill is such a DRAMA QUEEN. Only problem is, the act is getting old. Enough, already; we have more important things to do than to witness another 4-8 years of payback and back stabbing. That ain't gonna happen.

Ironically, it took the Clintons unleashing their slime machine on a democrat for us to start to see why the republicans hated them so much for so long.

Now we're starting to get it, and the old time repub Billary haters can team up with the new dem Billary haters and hopefully send these guys back to Arkansas once and for all.

We can either send them packing now, or send them packing in November, after she loses the general election and gets that general election Stink of LOSER on her. I say lose her now, and take our chances with Obams. Otherwise, it's another Republican president.

ABC - Anybody but Clinton

Posted by: ched | January 23, 2008 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Bill needs to SHUT UP.

I am getting TIRED of Bill Clinton. Is anybody else????

Posted by: maritza1 | January 23, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

lpeter59:

Thanks for answering my question -- obviously, it's not just this "idiot" who's taking the pledge to NOT vote for Hillary if she gets the nomination -- see you in November . . .

Posted by: JakeD | January 23, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

The Clinton family is insane if they're making the pro-war/anti-war to their benefit.

Bill Moyers just made a Documentary called 'Selling the War' showing Hillary selling the War in Iraq as hard (if not harder) than the Republicans in Congress.

It was the true Democrats that said, 'Hey wait, what is going on here!'... Hillary said stuff like that a few weeks after the Iraq invasion had been accomplished. But prior to the war she was all guns and glory.

This is what we'll be in for if the Clintons take the White House, again.

Posted by: theman_in_black | January 23, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton should understand that he and he alone is ruining his legacy. I use to be a big Clinton supporter but 8 years later we can thank Bill Clinton for jobs going overseas. President Clinton's trade policies have proven to hurt the country, we did good in the 90's because that was before NAFTA, now we feel the effects of Clinton's bad deals. That and now listening to the former president whine about Obama completely turns me off him and his wife. I went from someone who really liked the Clintons to someone who really hates them. Both Hillary and Bill disgust me as much as George W Bush.

Posted by: info4 | January 23, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

It was bad enough when an ex-President had to act as the knee capper for Hillary's Tonya Harding routine, now he is really losing it. Why does this Independent Woman need him to fight her battles. If she ever becomes president who will make the policy, how will they deal with his opposition to her choices, will he attack foreign leaders on her behalf also? At least Daddy Bush stayed out of the campaign for the most part. No way I could ever vote for them to be back in the White House again, I don't want any more to do with their personal nightmare. First 8 years were bad enough. (I have this suspicion that once Bill paid Hillary back for all the humiliation that she went thru for him, he would feel they were even and he could leave her. If she doesn't win, this plan won't work for him, maybe that is why he is so out of hand right now. Or is it that he is just jealous that Obama has now become the golden boy to the young segment of the party and the world and Bill is just Over the Hill now but can't handle the thought of being passe?)

Posted by: atp2007 | January 23, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

The Democratic campaign for the presidency has taught me how a disgraced impeached president and his wife behave.

I will vote for a Republican president for the first time in my life in November 2008 if Mrs. (and Mr.) Clinton lead the Democratic ticket.

Posted by: willowbarcelona | January 23, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

WP and the rest of the media is claiming that it's wrong for Hillary and Obama to defend themselves?

First of all, the disagreement between Hillary and Obama is like two pretty highschool cheerleaders scrapping it out compared to the hard fighting of the McCain Bush primary fight of 2000.

Second, if the media would have stood up for John Kerry in the summer of 2004 when the right claimed he stole his military medals, then the democrats could spend more time presenting their issues which is something the corporate media desires to keep out of the public domain. The democratic voters want to see that dem candidates defend themselves now because they will surely come under attack in the fall while the media will turn their backs like they have in the last two national elections.

Yeah, it's the media and the republicans that are the losers, because you have turned the democrats in general and the clintons in particular, into fight political tigers. That's really bad news for the corporate press and republicans.

Yes, the fighting Clinton if they make it to the White House will be determined to make sure that the 50 million plus that vote against Bush in the last two elections will be represent on the 100+ cables channel.
Kevin
Colesville MD

Posted by: KvnColes1 | January 23, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

I will not vote for this woman.

As a democrat and former Clinton supporter, I will never forgive her for how she and her husband have behaved over the past three weeks.

I was so excited with the dem choices, now I feel demoralized and hopeless for our ability to turn the country in the new direction.

Posted by: queenin | January 23, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

I attended the Myrtle Beach debate and have a friend who caucused in NV. We both noticed something very interesting about Hillary supporters. They are angry, rude, and determined to get their way.... very similar to Rovian republicans. It's sad to see my party taking on the characteristics of our enemy. Very sad!

Posted by: bonlu2 | January 23, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton is absolutely right in his comments to that reporter and I say that as one who intends to vote for Obama.

This country is in serious trouble
unless Americans get it together to make changes in our social policy - meaning health care and education and the environment - as well as making restitution for the misery we've perpetrated with the war in Iraq. None of that will ever get done as long as we allow the press to divert us with the kind of mean-spirited and irrelevant questioning demonstrated by this reporter and by the press in general.

Whether or not you support Hilary for president, the Clintons are not the villains here. They're not the ones who have messed up this country over the last seven years. Yeah, they're politicians and they do what politicians do. And I can't forgive Hilary for supporting the war. But within that framework it seems to me they try to serve - unlike the creepos in power now. People should lay off the smears and get serious about picking the right person to lead us out of this slimepit we've dug ourselves into - if that's still at all possible.

And yeah, I second the blogger who asked where the Post is in permitting some of the sick inarticulate rantings that are supposed to pass here for informed opinion.

Posted by: dkay3000 | January 23, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

The real sorry acts are those who are fighting for more of this http://www.slate.com/id/2182065 .

Posted by: jameswhanger | January 23, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

lpeter59:

Care to answer my question -- are you calling every Democrat here an "idiot" simply for taking my pledge to NOT vote for Hillary if she gets the nomination?

==========

I don't think it matters who you vote for. No one cares. This election will not swing on your vote.

If you're asking me if you are an idiot for deciding that if you can't have a liberal Democrat for president you will settle for a Conservative republican, the answer is absolutely.

Posted by: lpeter59 | January 23, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

the media has given Obama a pass?
Drugs, meeting w/ world leaaders, invading Pakistan, etc,. That's the greatest fairy tale ever sold!
the Cintons are always whining about the media.

Posted by: priceisright | January 23, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Please keep in mind that some posters on this message board and others who portray themselves as "obama supporters" or "hillary supporters" may be elephants in donkey suits. What better strategy would republicans have than to stir up conflict amongst democrats? You'all need to calm down & keep the big picture in mind.

Posted by: cubsbear9 | January 23, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

I tell you what the worst part of it is: He's absolutely right!

In fact, I marvel that the man is able to express himself so well and so cogently under the circumstances.

Posted by: jpetty | January 23, 2008 10:56 PM | Report abuse

This is part of the pattern.

It has happened in every contest since Iowa.

Former President Clinton goes off. The press stampedes. The story is spun. The Former President is victimize. The Clintons remain the storyine leading up to the vote.

The Clintons win.

There is something very wrong with this picture.

Tom

Posted by: thetomswift | January 23, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Bob Kerry famously said her husband is, "an unusually good liar. Unusually good."


Like I said, was he wagging his finger and moving his lips? All you need to know.

Posted by: vitana1900 | January 23, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

I just looked at the video of President Bill Clinton responding to the CNN reporter's question.

Ann Kornblut wrote: "Former president Bill Clinton lashed out in response to criticism on Wednesday from a prominent Democrat in South Carolina, accusing the Obama campaign of running a political smear campaign against him through the media.

"You live for this," Clinton snapped at CNN reporter Jessica Yellin when she asked him to comment on statements by Dick Harpootlian, the former South Carolina Democratic party chairman, who said recent distortions by the Clintons are "reprehensible."

Looking at the video is very different from reading Kornblut's story. It is very obvious that Clinton did not "SNAP" at the reporter. He calmly answered her question and was very forthright and coherent. I realize that using the word "SNAPPED" makes for a more dramatic story, but in today's digital age and the Internet, the readers are quickly able to go to the original source and determine if the reporter is being accurate in their reporting, or pushing the facts.

In this case, Kornblut was clearly pushing the facts to make for a more dramatic situation and headline. Little by little, the media and print journalists are losing their credibility, as the public comes to realize that what is being said or written is not what actually happened.

Get with it media and reporters. You need to realize in today's digital age that you need to be more careful about how you report your stories. The readers can now check on you (fairly easily) and determine how well you are doing your job. No more flinging your words about and using words carelessly like you are used to doing.

Now you have to work harder at your job because the readers are looking over your shoulder and now have the ability to determine how well and accurately you are doing your job.

Posted by: David2007 | January 23, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

waterfrontproperty:

I've been saying that same exact prayer ever since since 1992 ; )

Posted by: JakeD | January 23, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

lpeter59:

Care to answer my question -- are you calling every Democrat here an "idiot" simply for taking my pledge to NOT vote for Hillary if she gets the nomination?

Posted by: JakeD | January 23, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton is running for a third illegal term for President through his wife. The Clintons cannot stand to lose. Bill Clinton keeps acting like he and Hillary were victimized when they were in the White House. He fails to realize that his philandering cause the misery of his last 4 years. Bill Clinton adopted or usurped Republican ideas as his own to fend off the Republicans. He and his wife are Conservative Democrats who supported BIG BUSINESS.

Posted by: lcody | January 23, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Wow, is he good. In his retort he manages to reiterate two of his mistruths yet again for the happy sake of it being reprinted. 1) That Obama called Hillary "the Senator from Punjab," which he well knows is a total lie--Obama NEVER called her that--someone who was on staff wrote some memo that said this, and when Obama found out, he went ballistic and made it publicly clear that this would not be happening again. http://www.newsweek.com/id/84581

Secondly, Bill repeats the same ridiculous thing about Obama saying he was no different from Bush on the war. That is so was not about Obama's position on the Iraq WAR. Clinton WELL knows this yet continues to lie for his own gain. Shame on him.

Posted by: looklikelucy | January 23, 2008 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Lord, please make WJC and HRC just go away!

Posted by: waterfrontproperty | January 23, 2008 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Wow, how empowering it must be for women to have Hillary hide behind her oafish, bloated, philandering embarrassment of a husband.... Hmmmmmm. Guess it's genitalia ueber alles.

Posted by: greener_pastures | January 23, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Which one are you:

1). TV Junkie that believes any old silliness the pundits spew from day-to-day resulting in a favorable Clintonite.

2). Ignorant and exceedingly wealthy fat-cat that is concerned about his/her bank account ~ that's it!!! Republican.

3). Someone the studies the issues - considers the sources - sees that there can be another way about the direction the Bushies and Congress thieving Lobbyist Pigs would wish for (themselves).

For Meaningful Change - Edwards in '08

Posted by: theman_in_black | January 23, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

The language used in this article is stunningly biased and inflammatory.

Having read the article before watching the video I can't comprehend how Ms Kornblut could ever think that this is objective reporting.

Is there not an editor at the Post who not does have an axe to grind or who is not promoting an agenda or a candidate?

This article is appalling and hardly qualifies as journalism. It is a hatchet job, pure and simple.

Posted by: ponderer | January 23, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Wow, how empowering for women it must be to see Hillary hide behind her oafish, bloated, philandering embarrassment of a husband. Hmmmmmm. Guess it's genitalia ueber alles....

Posted by: greener_pastures | January 23, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

I believe the Washington Post lies.

Posted by: odug | January 23, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Why does the Washington Post let this drivel by laplumelefirmament be posted numerous times? Is nobody monitoring this blog?

Posted by: David2007 | January 23, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

It's so sad to see the Clinton's bringing back the dirty tricks and sheer narcissistic nastiness.

How much more of the old divisiveness and mudslinging will it take before folks starting remembering that it was HIllary who was in charge of the Clinton's political attack machine when they used attacks, smears, lies, denigration, intimidation etc. to undermine the credibility of anyone who challenged them. The long list of woman who were victims of Bill's sexual compulsions, like Paula Jones, Monica Lewinski, Gennifer Flowers, Jaunita Broaderick, Kathleen Willey, Sally Perdue, Elizabeth Ward Grace, Dolly Browning etc. etc, thereafter, became victoms of HIllary, Carville and the rest of The Machine.

Surrogate, James Carville was sent out to denigrate Paula Jones on news shows with the "walk through a trailer park with $100 and see what crawls out comments."

And even after Hillary knew about Bill's woman problem and lies, she sat by silently enabling while he looked the camera in the eye, wagged his finger and said "I did not have sex with that woman... Monica Lewinski."Both of the Clinton's own this history.

And both have been remarkably consistent their modus operandi and behavior and what it says about their character. Hillary owes these woman and all woman victims of sexual abuse, and harassment an apology.

Why hasn't the press asked her about this. How do these woman feel about a Clinton candadacy now? Oprah should do a month long series bringing these woman back and asking them how it felt to have their reputations and their lives bludgeoned by the Clinton attack machine, with Hillary leading the charge.

But even after the Clintons disgraced themselves, the office of the Presidency, and our nation, we forgave them and let them rehabilitate themselves back into public service.But they need to study models of forgiveness and redemption. It is not a free pass to commit your crimes and sins all over again. Humillity, contrition, and greater respect for others, expecially the public would be a start. But they both need a major change of behavior, before they bring back all the muck from the past crashing down -- on them, and on the democratic party and the nation.

Posted by: gmg595 | January 23, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

It baffles me that the Obama supporters here and elsewhere keep bringing up Bill Clinton's presidency as some sort of horrible nightmare that the country went through. Is it because most of them were kids during that period and are just repeating the Obama party line by rote?

Having lived through it I recall having a tough, smart, articulate president, who didn't drag us into unnecessary wars, and (helped to) balance the budget, passed welfare reform, pushed the economy out of a recession which was a hangover from the Reagan (yes that Obama idol Reagan) years, brought the left-loony Democrat party back to the center, created a blueprint for Democrats to win (which Gore et al promptly disavowed), left the country with a giant surplus (which W promptly gave away).

BC left office as one of the most popular presidents of the last century, not just in the US but worldwide.

If President Obama can achieve half of what President Clinton did he should consider it a big success. (Yes, BC had the Lewinsky thing - BFD.)

Instead I see Obama wilting under tough questioning, snapping and griping and yes, playing the race card. You really have to have blinders on to not see that the LBJ/MLK thing was exactly what Obama and his crew is accusing the Clintons of.

Posted by: ashokr1995 | January 23, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

The pattern developing in this campaign is truly sad, and destructive to all of us, I think.
One of Obama's primary ideas for change was to move beyond the divisiveness of the past twenty years. His Martin Luther King Jr. speech at Ebeneezer Baptist Church in Atlanta was promoting an idea of unity that accepted fault in ourselves and recognized the humanity of those we disagree with. His reference to Reagan, the full speech, not the truncated quote the Clinton ad is running, was a remarkably even-handed, thoughtful talk about the possibility of changing the entire tenor and substance of political life in this country. And yet it gets slammed because someone can clip less than a sentence of it and make it sound like an endorsement of a demonized Reagan. That says a lot about the state of political discourse.

In THE AUDACITY OF HOPE, which I'm working my way through now, Obama, prophetically, talks about the politics of Swiftboating, about how it takes 30 seconds to cut-and-paste a negative ad together to make an impression, but 20 minutes to formulate a considered reply. Time is on the side of those who go negative. And that seems to be the pattern here. The Clintons will make a negative, half-truth accusation, oftentimes at the last minute before a primary/caucus, and then accuse Obama of being "negative" when he points out the discrepancy. I think the Hillary campaign is betting that Obama's weakness is that he will not do anything to get elected.

I'm betting that that's his strength.

Posted by: minorthread | January 23, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

"I did not have sex with that woman." It all goes back to that, sadly. This is not about the American people for the Clintons. It is about the Clintons. They will do anything and say anything to protect the dynasty and get back to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. This is not good for our country. Is not what our country needs. And, our country does not need a Clinton governing it again when they resort to brawling only to protect their turf.

Posted by: tdterrell | January 23, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Bill. CNN team is full of it.
The best team !!!! what a joke.
I remember John King said befor New Hamshire".... but Bill campaign 20 hrs a day" and everyone know what happened in New Hamshire.
CNN is so bias and makes me sick.

Posted by: henryvu | January 23, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Hi Folks, First, remember Anne Kornblut as does most of the Wahington Post, consistently engages in dishonest, negative reporting when the Clintons are involved. The Clintons are obviously two of the most honest people involved with politics. No one else could have stood up to the crazed Ken Starr investigation with as little damage as they sustained. The Washinton Post as suggested by David Broder about 6 years, has always wanted the Clintons driven from office because they were never part of the "Washington royalty" as designated by the Post. You note the Washington Post called upon Bill Clinton to resign becasue of his lies about his personal sexual life. But, imagine this, The Washington Post has never called upon Bush to resign despite his cascade of lies about Iraq and other matters of national security, read Froomkin's article today. As for the posts of martinedwinanderson, laplumelefirmamant, and slowtrain-- don't worry,they are simply the products of sick minds. ODUG

Posted by: odug | January 23, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

For one thing Bill needs to let Hillary speak for herself and stop acting like he is the one running for president allready i feel like a vote for Hillary is really a vote for Bill and both of them are just to nasty toward Obama and unfair.

Posted by: smorrow | January 23, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

wow this reporter is such a liar. She got me all excited to see a lashing, unloading, letting loose Clinton. So what do i see when i click the video? A pretty calm, rational Clinton laying out his points and argument in a civilized manner.

Has the American press no decency like we do in Canada?

BTW if I was American I would be voting Obama.

Posted by: vish_ix | January 23, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

For Obama supporters to claim to want a new kind of politics, I swear, as a group they are the most obnoxious, smug, self righteous, naive, know it all group of people in the history of political campaigns.

Where did he find these guys? They have an answer for everything! Never any doubts, never any humility, never any individual thought and absolutely no respect for someone else's views. By god if we don't nominate Obama, I'm going to vote republican.

Give me a break!

Posted by: lpeter59 | January 23, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

lpeter59:

Are you calling every Democrat here an "idiot" simply for taking my pledge to NOT vote for Hillary if she gets the nomination? Those are fightin' words!

Posted by: JakeD | January 23, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

The real cause of this campaign tactic is that most campaign managers realize that the vast majority of voters are ill-informed, emotional people that will believe just about anything you tell them.

As long as we voters stay ill-informed and believe anything people will tell us, this crap will continue.

Knowledge is power.

Posted by: steveboyington | January 23, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Why are the Clintons being held to a different standard as the Obamas. Everything Bill Clinton said in response to question posed to him by the reporter is my opinion sound and in order. I'm yet to hear the press call Obama's wife to account for her mis characterization of Clinton's remark regarding her husband consistent opposition to the Iraqi war being a fairytale.Some segment of the press appear to have vested interest in fanning embers of racisms while ignoring substantial issues that have been raised by the candidates.Enough already,lets focus on real issues that ail America.

Posted by: chuks1119 | January 23, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Former President Bill Clinton may be keeping his zipper closed these days. But his mouth is always wide open and constantly in motion, as he campaigns for his wife, Senator Hillary Clinton.

Senator Barack Obama has tried mightily to raise the country's level of political discourse to actually discussing ISSUES. But Bill Clinton's pursuit of a third term is getting in the way -- he'll say ANYTHING, true or false, to discredit Obama. And so Obama, a veteran of Chicago politics, has had to hit back -- which he has still done in a dignified way.

Enough already. The Presidency of the United States is not a consolation prize to be awarded to Hillary Clinton, for standing by her man after his hanky-panky with Monica Lewinsky. It is the most important job in the world. Obama may be a lot younger than Hillary, but he has learned more in 46 years than she has in 60.

By the way, I'm an old white guy. And an Obama supporter.

Posted by: chuck8 | January 23, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

He is a lying adulterer who disgraced his party, his office and his country. And he also disgraced his wife. But she craves power so desperately that she stayed with him. There's no way that I'd vote for the Clintons. No way.

Posted by: terentz | January 23, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

The Clintons attract attacks and dissention from republicans like the plague AND their behavior really do not help

When Hillary tried to fix the Health Care in 1992 she failed miserably ... and then there is her vote for the Iraq war and her support to the neocons to start another war with Iran.
Hillary and Bill should and must help President Obama. For example Hillary would make a good secretary of the HUD Depart as long as she is not put on charge of reforming Health Care ... she is not good at that! She also should be kept away from the post of Secretary of State ... she is proven to be easy to be railroaded to the neocon's causes by the likes of FOX news.

As for Bill whatever position he is given he should not be provided with female support staff (remember Paula Jones) and certainly no interns close to him (remember Monica Lewisky) other than that they can be helpul!

Posted by: TomCastano | January 23, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Everyone who accuses of the Clintons need to listen to an official recording of President L.B.Johnson's and M.L.King's conversation. Three days after JFK's assassination, LBJ approached MLK stating to MLK that he saw an opportunity to pass the Civil Rights legislature as something JFK was trying to do but far from succeeding. He approached MLK for his support, so the fact is correct there.

I agree about the Obama supporters. I do not understand why they are so angry, unreasonable, and quite obnoxious. The press is bias toward Obama. We can see it from the video, President Clinton did not snap at all. He just reply with reasons.

Posted by: jmaj | January 23, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Actunk said "But between people who screw up the country vs. people who are dishonest in their private lives, which one would you pick?"

Neither. We can give Obama a shot. He has good ideas and he doesn't just say anything to get elected. Bill and Hillary started this crap because they figured they had to take Obama down by driving up his negatives because hers are already high. It may work, but it is despicable.

Posted by: RealChoices | January 23, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton is THE Big Dog. He fights best when he is cornered.

http://dowdreport.blogspot.com/2008/01/let-big-dog-eat.html

Posted by: dowdreport | January 23, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

I respect Bill Clinton for having the backbone to speak up in the face of the ongoing Media-Obama love fest.

Posted by: Friend1 | January 23, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Good grief, but the clintons are tedious. What is it this time, a vast left wing conspiracy?

The last time there were media conspiracies alleged, hillary was trying to deflect attention away from billy banging the help.

What now? Obama attempting to be blacker than bill clinton?

It is entertaining, though.

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | January 23, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

A Democrat would have to be an idiot to prefer four more years of deficits, war, recession, inflation and incompetence to four years of Hillary. Bush alone did not do all of this. He had to have republican help.

Oil prices aren't high enough for you? Health care not expensive enough? Still have sons and daughters who haven't been sent to Iraq? Like seeing Bush go hat in hand to the Saudis?

You can listen to the republicans if you want, but in the end you'd better vote your wallet. Four years is a long time.

Posted by: lpeter59 | January 23, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

The comments here are sad to me. These disputes are going to happen and we need to get a grip and avoid getting sucked into the petty, day to day conflicts. I'm an Obama supporter and contributor, but Bill Clinton is right (even as he plays the game himself): the media are conflict driven and don't cover the substance, and campaign advisors and others play on this too. There's not much that can be done about this, except to refuse to get caught up in it.

Posted by: jubao | January 23, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

The former President has an uncanny ability to turn himself into the victim in any and all set of circumstances. unbecoming for a former head of the free world.

I used to respect the Clintons, but no more. I believe firmly Obama is the best person for the job, but could at one point have been willing to vote Clinton. No more. I can't reward their dishonesty. If Obama doesnt win the campaign, I'll hope for a Bloomberg run, or sit this one out. And I'll feel real sadness that the Democratic party, betrayed by self-interested leadership by the Clintons, turned their back on a real opportunity for the country.

Posted by: maq1 | January 23, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

I voted for and raised money for Bill Clinton, supported him during his impeachment and tried to ignore the stained dress, and now just want to vomit. They are both a disgrace and a nightmare that this country needs to wake up from. We can not survive the continuation of twenty years of a totally dysfunctional Bush/Clinton regime. Have courage- vote for Barrack.

Posted by: shiva7 | January 23, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Please God, save us from the Clintons. And I say that as a Democrat...

Posted by: kkay | January 23, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

watch the video, people! bill clinton isn't angry, he didn't snap. he delivered a long overdue, if abbreviated, commentary on how the media is focused on all the wrong things. shame on anne kornblut for this gross mischaracterization, and shame on the post for allowing it!

Posted by: matthewmaverick | January 23, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Potential Hillary voters take note: This is the sort of thing you will get for at least four years if she is elected - political attacks followed by anger and outrage that anyone would question said attacks.

Posted by: Mike107 | January 23, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

If Democrats nominate Hillary Clinton, they will lose the vote of independents like myself, who have had enough this nonsense.

I'll vote for anyone but Hillary, and all the partisan hacks can keep tearing each other's hair out all they want.

Posted by: michaelkleckner | January 23, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Clinton has proven that he is really a low character, even though his ex-workplace is the White House.

Only low character would distort facts or truth for the sake of self gain.

Clinton is like what The Lord of Ring depicts. When one has tasted the power of the ring (the symbol of power), he can not help but want to do anything to stick to it or to repossess the ring again.

It is up to us the voters to decide. Should we give such a low character a chance to grab the ring again? when he has proven again and again that he is not a honest character, even though his previous profession was the President of United States.

Posted by: wenmay2002 | January 23, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

With Democrats like these on this thread, who needs Republicans?!?!?!?!

Posted by: swaviator | January 23, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Up to now I have been an Obama supporter, but after seeing the debates it occurred to me that, despite his high minded talk, he is a politician just like all the rest of them. He's just not very good at it.

I am going to vote for Hillary. At least she's tough and will give the republicans a run for their money.

Posted by: lpeter59 | January 23, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

I have finally realized that the Clintons and their supporters are no different than Bush and his gang of thugs. I would rather see the GOP retain the White House than to have Billary lie about what intern he slept with.

Posted by: acindc007 | January 23, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

the right has an interest in stirring up this controversy, and some on the left are playing into their hands. it's too bad, as a clinton/obama team, or obama/clinton team, would be among the strongest, most capable, most productive teams, and would win the election.

Posted by: e9999999 | January 23, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

The media is just playing right into the Clinton's strategy, which is revealed by Dick Morris, B. Clinton's old strategist, in his New York Post article on 1/22:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/01222008/news/columnists/theres_a_method_to_crafty_bills_madness_36682.htm

It's not just that Bill is playing bad cop and allowing Hillary to remain above the fray but that he's acting as the lightning rod for the media, to steal the spotlight that would otherwise be shining on Obama. The media eats up every red-faced rant by Bill Clinton. Hardball tonight (Jan. 23) spent the first 25 MINUTES on Bill Clinton's role in the campaign.

READ MORRIS'S ARTICLE and pass it on, especially to serious people in the media. The media needs to wisen up about what they're being used for.

Posted by: cicada99 | January 23, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Bill is lying again.
First of all, if there was orchestrated intimidation at by the Culinary Union in Nevada to force members to support Obama, why was it that Hillary won the majority of the at large Casino caucuses.

Second of all, Bill is an idiot to bring up people like Andrew Young who made an incredibly embarrassing statement "Bill is just as black as Barack and that he's probably dated more black women that Barack"

Down with the Billary's - we're sick of negative crap!

Posted by: Jeanne1 | January 23, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

As far as why our author here may have dramatized the headline and story, well, it worked, we all followed the link, read the story and ka-ching, mission accomplished! Drama, like sex, sells.

Posted by: jonathan | January 23, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Count me in as a former Hillary supporter who is now going to support Obama. I find it VERY dismaying that the Clintons are running such a destructive campaign against a fellow Democrat. Obama has been trying to keep to the high road, and Hillary and her husband keep steering into the mud. What the HECK is her husband sticking her nose into her campaign for anyway? Can't she win on her own? GO OBAMA!!

Posted by: bclark | January 23, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

So we should vote for Hillary because her health care plan is better than Obama's? Does anyone remember that the Clinton's had 8 years and couldn't get it done? Time to bring in some fresh horses....I'm for giving Obama a chance.

Posted by: docwebb | January 23, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton is demonstrating he will be incapable of being anything like the quiet strong spouse that Hillary tried in the end to be as First Lady. His strident attack dog stance is starting to alienate even his wife's supporters. Has anyone really thought this guy was going to take a backseat role if she wins? To paraphase a Slate blogger: need proof that Bill Clinton can't control himself in the White House? See "Starr Report".

Hillary as the Democratic candidate will mobilize the Republican Party like no other candidate in history. Obama could go so much more negative, and with some real ugly history. If he doesn't the Republicans most certainly will. She will polarize the country and her party enough to make the Bush years feel like we were all singing "Kum Bye Ah" around the campfire for 7 years. There has never been a more easily predicted political trainwreck ahead of us than the prospect of another 4-8 years of the Clinton aristocracy occupying the White House. Its enough to make me vote for almost any Republican (for the first time in my 42 years of life)

Posted by: elwha | January 23, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

I am a lifelong registered Democratic Party member who despised Ralph Nader in 2001, voted for both Clinton's twice (I live in NY) and I am telling them and their supporters:

After seeing her scorched earth policy and seeing Bill Clinton clowning and lying, I have come to despise them.

I am a real person. My comments are always liberal. I do not work in politics nor does any member of my family or any friend.

I hope The Clinton's wake up. They are the best and only friend the Republicans need.

I almost feel like posting my name, address, phone number and other information so people will get my message to them. They are despicable.


For the record I preferred Gore in 2000, Wesley Clark in 2004, and hope John Edwards can get the nomination. Before seeing them so ugly-acting, I told everyone I would vote for Hillary as I had done two times before.

Bah! Clinton and shame on that family!

Posted by: tomjoyce1 | January 23, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Let me get this straight:

The Clintons are mad because people are pointing out that they're repeating patent falsehoods?

I guess it's not news that the Clintons don't think honesty is important, no matter how much we tried to rationalize it in the '90s. But this is just too much. As I posted on another thread, I will not vote for Hillary in either the primary or the general election.

Posted by: davestickler | January 23, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for runnibg the full text of the transcript of president Clinton's remarks.

Judging from that, his response was appropriate and factual.

Posted by: publiuserc | January 23, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Agree with them or not, Clintons have good points, and they should be answered honestly. They do have their share of dirty politics, but Obama does not? Come on!

The press takes the Obama line that people are tired of the 90s and are looking for something new. But just what's wrong with the 90s? When the worst thing in the country is OJ and Monica and bubbles, I'd say the country is doing extremely well. Just look at what we have now: war, deficit, recession.

So Clintons are not role models. But between people who screw up the country vs. people who are dishonest in their private lives, which one would you pick? Remember that the press took it home that Gore was so woody/boring, and Kerry was a flip/flop? And why the press liked Bush? Because he is a good talker (I meant he IS, to the majority of this country at least).

And what has Obama done so far? Mostly inspirational talk. Fine he doesn't have much experience, but can't he at least put more substance in his talks so we know how he handles reality?

Oh Clintons distorted what Obama said about Reagan. Didn't Obama's people distort what Clintons said about Dr. King?

The press does have problems. I have to agree with Clintons. And I don't care if they said it angrily or calmly.

Posted by: actunk | January 23, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton is getting closer to looking like WCFields back in the 40's old movies with that big nose and demeaner,cept he's not lovable or witty as Ole WCF. he would like to be in the driver's seat again continuining his signing trade bills that ship our jobs out. And that "Stand by your man." like in the song by Tammy Wynette that she quoted when she found out her Willy(ahem)was using his powers of persuasion on a young intern as he has done so many times as "much as you please" because he can,.. power of your position can get you anyplace. she stuck by her man alright, because she knows damn well whats his ..is hers..Power of the White House,and the things he could use on anyone who would reveal the sordid secret other life that he "Lives For." Bill if you are listening look what NAFTA has done..if you get back in how are you going to reverse the damage you've already done..or will you and your "emotional lady just let others fix it while you dream of two big president's pensions as you serve your third term?

grd

Posted by: grdn_nell | January 23, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Should Hillary be elected is THIS the Bill Clinton we're going to have to live with for the next 4 years, or maybe 8 years? Surely, she wouldn't send him on an international mission in this state? This is really shocking - I've never seen Clinton acting this way in public. I heard him speak in person during this past year. These photos and the stories seem to be a 'different person'. Maybe he should talk to Cheney about dark changes in personality.

Posted by: ljines1 | January 23, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Love the photo of Bill Clinton wagging his finger. Now let me think, didn't he wag the finger when emphatically talking about, "that woman, Miss Lewinsky"?

Posted by: tobetv | January 23, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

I'm the sort of voter Hillary will never get in November, but Obama certainly will -- an independent.

I detest the complete lack of integrity that Hillary and Slick Willie display. In a way though, I'm starting to think that maybe it's good thing that Hillary and Bill are doing this right now.

In the wake of the Bush administration, the Clinton years started to look really rosy. Bush II was the best thing that ever happened to Clinton I.

But I think a lot of people probably forgot what those years were like politically. The endless distortions, the tortured relationship with the truth. Whitewater. Monica. It depends on "what the definition of is is."

Obama's success has pushed the Clintons to reveal their true and ugly natures again. Hopefully with that on display, people will rethink whether that is the sort of experience they want to have again.

Personally, eight years of Clinton distortions and eight years of Bush distortions is enough. Time for someone new. Time for Obama. And if the Democrats are insane enough not to go with Obama, then time for McCain.

I don't agree with everything either man says or believes, but at least they are people of good character and that would be a real nice thing to have in the White House for a change.

Posted by: wappinne | January 23, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

This is just too much. Eight years of Mr. Clinton and now he's back. We don't need this! After Bush, we need time to recover and we need a president who is more concerned with us than with his own ego. I wonder if Hillary resents Bill's drama going on around her campaign?

Posted by: cabinlogs | January 23, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Putanesque Bill. If he is returned to the white house and becomes a member of the inner circle, will he once again have interns on his executive staff?

Posted by: rahaha | January 23, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Several posters noted that the video does not match Anne K.'s adjectives.
Of course not. Anne is following in the footsteps of Ceci Connelly who trashed Al Gore during the 2000 election. See dailyhowler.com for more details.
For Anne, like Ceci, like Lillian Hellman, even the a, an and the are a lie.

Posted by: edlharris | January 23, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

I voted for Bill Clinton twice, despite his obvious flaws, because I thought he would be better for the country than any Republican could possibly be. George W. Bush is certainly a far worse president than Clinton ever was. W is completely incompetent and a liar to boot. I thought Hillary was a better choice than Obama, mainly because Obama really is a relatively inexperienced political leader, but after Bill's repeated outbursts, I decided to forget Hillary Clinton and her smearing sleazebag of a husband. Enough of Bushes and Clintons, it's time for new. It's time for Obama. These outbursts of Bill Clinton's are unbecoming of a former president. The Clintons had their chance. Time to give someone else a shot.

Posted by: Bob22003 | January 23, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

If the criticism of the Clintons is, at times, over the top, much more was earned. William Greider nails it it his essay, Slick Willie Rides Again. Link below. I voted for Clinton twice. Happily. And up until recently I continued to think reasonably well of him. No more. Never again.

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion?pid=274075

Posted by: AgathaX | January 23, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

I am so sick of the Clintons - wish they would just go away.

Posted by: lib_nm | January 23, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Get a LIFE Billy before you take your party completely down and OUT!
It's all about the Clintons....this country needs changes and the HillBilly Show will be nothing but the same....if not worse than what we have had to endure the past 7 years.
God how I wish the media would stop giving this guy the stage! What are the issues for this country - or have you all forgotten we are in a MESS!

Posted by: mknitkowski | January 23, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Even more ironic, given that she used to work in the Clinton White House.

Posted by: burkehmoeller | January 23, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

It is also a lie for Bill Clinton to say that Obama called Hillary "the Senator from Punjab", one person in his organization wrote an email which said that, Obama criticized and disavowed it and said it hadn't been approved by him. for Clinton to use that as an excuse for their deliberate distortions now, is really weak.

Posted by: itsbenj | January 23, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Clinton didn't accuse Obama of calling Hillary the senator from the Punjab (which is of course a province in Pakistan and a state in India); he said "Poonjab," wherever or whatever that is. It sounds kind of dirty.

Posted by: masalai | January 23, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

If you buy into the health Insurance Crap your an @#$%^. It's the same FAILED plan Billy tried to pass, this on smells more like Monica and Billy's cigar. Get real, Hilly girl has no plan.. At least Huckabee has one on his web site..

Posted by: emadams99 | January 23, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Why spend so much time on Bill Clinton? Is he running for President? Is he important? When George Bush was running for President - I remember him saying something about "morality" and "cleaning the sheets" after Bill Clinton left the White House - question?? does anyone believe Bill Clinton wants to get back into the White House because he wants people to forget all the embarrassments that occurred during his term?

Posted by: arlethal | January 23, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Why spend so much time on Bill Clinton? Is he running for President? Is he important? When George Bush was running for President - I remember him saying something about "morality" and "cleaning the sheets" after Bill Clinton left the White House - question?? does anyone believe Bill Clinton wants to get back into the White House because he wants people to forget all the embarrassments that occurred during his term?

Posted by: arlethal | January 23, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Why spend so much time on Bill Clinton? Is he running for President? Is he important? When George Bush was running for President - I remember him saying something about "morality" and "cleaning the sheets" after Bill Clinton left the White House - question?? does anyone believe Bill Clinton wants to get back into the White House because he wants people to forget all the embarrassments that occurred during his term?

Posted by: arlethal | January 23, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

I just saw the video. I thought he was fine. I didn't notice him "ranting" at all. If I'm frustrated witht he Media as a Hillary supporter, imagine how he must feel.

Posted by: badger3 | January 23, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

I'm mighty tired of Obama crying about having to respond to criticism or what he considers distortions. Hillary does it and has done it for many years. I'm not even a Hillary supporter but I shudder to think how he would handle the Republican machine. I don't believe he is ready. I think the media continues to be unfair to the Clintons but they can handle it. Myself, I support John Edwards.

Posted by: JWALLS1 | January 23, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Why doesn't a reporter have the guts to tell Billary that this http://www.slate.com/id/2182065 is why noone believes him?

Posted by: jameswhanger | January 23, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

I did not inhale that war...Jackie

Posted by: rfowler2 | January 23, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

There is something really scary and wrong about what's happening in the current campaign for the Democratic Party nomination. Hillary is so viscerally scared of the threat that Obama represents to her and Bill''s political aspirations that they are recklessly and selfishly dividing the Democratic party with this insidious husband wife, good cop bad cop, tag team fear and smear campaign of blatant lies in order to win the nomination. And they even dared to do it on Martin Luther King Jr''s Birthday. How dare they.

Hillary is obsolete. Bill is destroying his legacy. Together they are successfully dividing the Democratic party by permanently burning bridges with party faithful and, should they actually win the nomination, may potentially hand the election to the GOP or a third party candidate like Bloomberg.

Shame on you both.

Posted by: bburgis | January 23, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Why do people not want the Clinton's back in the White House? Here's why http://www.slate.com/id/2182065

Posted by: jameswhanger | January 23, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton is right. Why is there outrage only when either Hillary or he says something; but when Obama's side puts out remarks like Senator from Punjab; its pushed under the carpet by the media....

i think Obama has potential - but needs to show content and muscle...brain and brawn....not be a cry baby

Posted by: ashu.tandon | January 23, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: jameswhanger | January 23, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Bill:
I voted for you twice and am still glad I did, but please SHUT UP about Obama and don''t divide the Democratic party. Stick to Hillary''s record and nothing else. All the fighting and sniping is Karl Rove''s wet dream. How about we make our national priorities 1) getting a Dem in the White House, and 2) it being your wife or Obama?

Posted by: gce1356 | January 23, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

jameswhanger, what did he lie about? That Clinton's an Obama's voting records on Iraq issues are identical since he was elected Senator? They are, those records are public and you can double check them yourself.

He lied about the fact that Hillary was attacked on a comment about MLK and was called a racist for a non-racial comment?

Or he lied about the fact that media does not approach the issues, but instead keeps blowing up the "Clinton attacks Obama, Obama attacks Clinton stories?"

As for drug use, well, Clinton had to explain it to the entire nation when he was president, so why should Obama be treated any different?

Finally the Reagan remark is true. It was on record that Obama said that he wants to bring change and now is the right time, just like Ronald Reagan brought change at the right now and put our country on a new trajectory the way Nixon did not and the way Bill Clinton did not. In the same speech he says that he thinks that Republicans are a party of a ideas that defied conventional wisdom. I surprised that he had no feedback from republicans yet since he also says that it is obvious that his campaign is on the right track, which is why Romney and Huckabee are using the "change" now.

Posted by: DCProgressive | January 23, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

I watched the tape and Bill Clinton did not have an outburst. He responded directly to a question. Imagine that no stumbling, no stuttering, just answered a question and the press didn't like the answer. How about just reporting the facts and try not advocating for Obama through your word choice. We all get it that the Washington Post does not like either Clinton. Clinton gets my vote. I've listened, read and paid attention to the facts involving all the candidates. I'm not afraid to vote for the candidate most prepared to help this nation move beyond the words. Obama's debate performances have been way less than stellar, but he does give a great speech from a teleprompter. If I want to be inspired I'll go to church. The hateful double standard smears of the media, Republicans or Obamafanatics toward the Clintons aren't going to change my mind. My suggestion to every other voter out there do your homework, really pay attention, and don't get your information from just one source, because if this is an example of real journalism we are in more trouble than we think.

Posted by: makim | January 23, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Bill is losing it? I voted for him...but have lost respect for him and certainly for his wife's campaign. This is troubling to me.

Posted by: antimud2008 | January 23, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

That wasn't snapping. One of the reasons I wonder who really is a journalist any more. Try some new adjectives.

Posted by: ecophem | January 23, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

I used to hold Bill Clinton in high esteem, and thought he was a very good president. But his behavior on the campaign trail has been appalling. He's not an asset to Hillary's campaign, just an obnoxious distraction. It makes me question Hillary's judgment that she would allow him to be so prominent in her campaign-- which one of them is running for president? She needs to establish that she can function without him, and drop him like a ton a bricks. After all, it's clear he cares more about his legacy and what role he might have in her White House, then he does about her winning. At this stage, even though I like to support Hillary as an individual, if Bill continues to dominate her political team and campaign I'll be tempted to vote for an independent or Republican if she wins the Democratic nomination.

Posted by: kmcnyasha | January 23, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Is Webster Hubbell Chelsea Clinton's real father?

Posted by: Phil5 | January 23, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

A vote for Clinton

is a vote for another Bush.

America does not need 8 more years of corruption and lies.

VOTE OBAMA 2008.

Posted by: dotmafia | January 23, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

laplumelefirmament, don't post your crap again and again.

TV Reporters are not supposed to ask in-depth questions. They cared only news attracking more viewers.

Posted by: va-us | January 23, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

A vote for Clinton

is a vote for another Bush.

America does not need 8 more years of corruption and lies.

VOTE OBAMA 2008.

Posted by: dotmafia | January 23, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

The Clintons love to portray themselves as victims of the press and of the politics of personal destruction, but it takes two to tango. Look at how Bill did Bob Dole dirty in the '96 campaign.

I saw somewhere someone said the Clintons don't get out of bed without considering the political implications. Well said.

I supported Bill in the 90s, but am tired of their b.s. and am more than ready to turn the page. Let's move on. PLEASE!!!!

Posted by: jtamarkin | January 23, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, shame on you Kornblut! You and your kewl tribe of Heathers-on-the-bus are utterly vapid and empty. The very reason that we were sold a bill of goods on W, easily the worst President ever, was that you Versailles mincing courtiers were so smitten by his Texan cowboy parody. And now you are just setting the stage for McCain to walk all over an easily rattled Obama. Haven't the disastrous last 8 years meant anything to you? How can you be so superficial??

Posted by: diogenes07 | January 23, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Old Bill "I did not have sex with that woman!" Clinton. Old Bill is just shuckin' and jivin' with us. Turn it off Bill, your static is so loud it's even annoying Hillary; at least the more you pnntificate, the more votes Hillary is losing. That's not good Bill.

Posted by: buzzm1 | January 23, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: jameswhanger | January 23, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

I have observed in many of the passionate comments; that it is clear many people appear to assume that they are doing Obama or the Clintons favors by supporting them, or that it is about liking or disliking them personally. That is a big mistake. The real implication in all these conflagrations is that people get the government they deserve, as Plato said. Americans will get the government they deserve, whether they choose Obama or the Clintons, just as we have the government we deserve by choosing Bush in the last two elections.

Posted by: slowtrain | January 23, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

This is very disheartening and reminds me that Bill Clinton has a Karl Rove side to him - he loves the schoolyard tactics of drawing oponents down into the mud.

Hillary does not repesent a change in US politics. If you want to "stay the course" then vote for Hillary and we'll have 4 more years of bickering and division in America.

But if you have eyes to see and ears to hear then you will find Obama to be the candidate with integrity and wisdom.

Posted by: martiniano | January 23, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

http://www.slate.com/id/2182065

This article at Slate sums Billary up quite well.

Posted by: jameswhanger | January 23, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Was he wagging his finger and moving his lips?

Posted by: vitana1900 | January 23, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

I'm an Obama supporter. After the convention, Hillary Clinton or Barak Obama will be running to retake the White House. We have to get to the convention without so much bloodletting that our nominee, whoever that is, cannot win. It's time for everyone to step back.

Posted by: karlanne1 | January 23, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Clinton was right in calling this reporter on her lack of curiousity when it comes to issues. The reporter chose instead to focus on the trivial "fight" between candidates.

Shame on the reporter.

Posted by: kingsbridge77 | January 23, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

DC Progressive, you have an interesting definition of "lie". It's similar to Billary's definition of "is".

Posted by: jameswhanger | January 23, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Another excellent piece of reporting. Geez, the reporters won't rest until the milk the Obama vs. Clinton issue to death. Clinton was speaking in his normal voice and did not get as aggravated as this "article" implies. Also he named a lot of names, so double-check them before you write implying that he's lashing out at media.

Where are the facts? They keep taking statements first from one camp that from another camp, but no one does any fact-checking to see if those statements are a lie. So far Bill Clinton did not lie in any of his accusations towards Obama.

Instead why don't you cover the results of NH recounts which were finished today. Two counties were recounted, with Biden getting votes and Clinton, Obama and Edwards losing votes. Doesn't that make a more newsworthy rather than scandalous piece?

Posted by: DCProgressive | January 23, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Is it a surprise that many Democrats don't want to be part of the lying, the narcissism, the infidelity, and the support and approval of Billary's behavior?

Posted by: jameswhanger | January 23, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Yes, let's talk about policy. Hillary has big loive for big gov. She's so committed to big government, she co-authored the bill that set up the Transportation Safety Administration (TSA). Is it any more effective than the private contract firms? Hold that thought - TSA uses quite a few contract screeners. But are they more effective? Actually, only the past couple years. But, of course, the cost of the screening program has more than doubled since the TSA was set up. Big Gov to the rescue, eh? As for universal health care, poll the Canadian general public and ask them how satisfied they are with it. Don't you dare need a specialized opinion or test.

Posted by: JHG_sec405 | January 23, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Sure there are alot of Limbaugh-esque repeated posts. But read the real posts and it's 20-1 against the insane, divisive and dirty politics as practiced by President Clinton. EXACTLY like Atwater, Rove et al in terms of it's dishonesty and utter disregard for the integrity of the debate. I was never a Clinton fan, but now I find his behavior totally reprehensible. He's completely out of line. As some good ole boy told me once when I was out of line, "shut yer pie hole!"

Posted by: nicholaslerek | January 23, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Bill and Hillary are so yesterday.

Edwards is turning out to be the best candidate.

Posted by: schnitzel1491 | January 23, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Hooray for Bill Clinton. He's doing the job the MSM won't. They represent the special interests who are happy to have Obama become the candidate so they can savage him in the general election. And all the while Americans will think they have risen beyond race. He's being set up big time. Hillary and Bill have been through this - there is nothing new on them.

More importantly, Obama as the great black hope thinks whether you can dance or not defines a black man - is this as in Shuck and Jive that someone else got nailed for? And the press let it go by. He just fed a stereotype and no one calls him on it.

The Post and NYTimes are both a disgrace.

Posted by: thinkagain1 | January 23, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Why don't the Clinton's get to defend themselves? Is that REALLY your question? They spent years defending themselves against allegations that turned out to be true. Is it a surprise that people don't believe them now?

Posted by: jameswhanger | January 23, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

I find the people who hate Ms. Clinton to be worse then she is.

It is about issues. What real issues do you disagree with her on? I don't hear much detail in the tirades against her.

I am not a supporter of hers, but she would do better than GW has done.
The only reason I wont vote for her is the shrill lunatics who would raise heck over nothing for 8 years if she wins.

Lets get Obama in their, so the talk radio fools can make jokes about his name. At least that would be new.

We at least need someone with a brain, something lacking in the White House for too many years now.

Posted by: unitcaptain11 | January 23, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Dear Clintons: Until recently, I was undecided on whether to favor Ms Clinton or Mr Obama in the Democratic race. But your collective nastiness and mendacity regarding Mr Obama since the Iowa caucuses has reminded me of what I disliked about you when you were in the White House. I'm pleased and not entirely surprised to see Mr Obama pulling ahead in S Carolina polls. Thanks for helping me clarify who would make the better President.

Posted by: gjhinnova | January 23, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

My favorite parts of this video are the number of times Bill Clinton refers to the royal "we" in terms of the campaign. The man believes he is running for President again!

How can we as a country NOT be disturbed by not only the shady politics that the Clinton machine is employing in this election, but the machine itself?? This is about power, folks. And political dynasties that would make the Mexicans laugh at us. Two families have controlled the Executive branch for the last 20 years. You want 4 or 8 more? Come on

And guess what? The experience card is nonsense. More experience just means more of the same and more in the pocket of donors and special interest. Without dramatic change and fresh faces/ideas we will be in the same messes in four years time.

With all due respect Mr. President, and this is from a man who voted twice for you and met you at the White House on two occasions: "Just please shut up."

Posted by: JChrisFlanagan | January 23, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Wow, I just read some more postings. No Democrat is so despicable as to say some of the filthy things being said here about the Clintons. I have to believe a lot of these comments are from Republicans. In which case, I ask Democrats to see how scared they are of Clintons and that by ganging up on Clinton ourselves we are playing right into their hands.

Posted by: vishalg_99 | January 23, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

I found Clinton's answer to be very intelligent, reasonable and believable. I may not agree with Bill Clinton on a lot of issues, but he is one of the most intelligent people I've come across, which is why I like listening to him, and after almost eight years of B*** it's a refreshing blast from the past.

Posted by: wgilwood | January 23, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

TALKING POINTS MEMO:

Bill and Hillary Clinton are "closet" Republicans. when they run, they run as Democrats, but ultimately govern as Republicans.

Look at Clinton's free-trade policies and entitlement bashing in the 90's, compare it to Hillary's votes in the Senate, and you see that I am right.

Will somebody pass these talking points on to the Obama campaign, please?

Posted by: jurjy | January 23, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

(Hillary Rodham may have been campaigning) (for Barry Goldwater when she was all of )(fifteen years old (that's how old she was (when he ran for President), but think )(about what Barack Obama was doing at the) (same age).

Posted by: prettierthanyou | January 23, 2008 06:56 PM


Just to make sure to correct the Hillary appologists, Hillary was not an innocent 15 year old. She was infact 17 years old when she campaigned for Barry Morris Goldwater. Hillry was born in 1947 making her a not so innocent 15 year old kid. Please if your going to say something atleast try to get it right.

Thank you for your time....

I do like the way you threw in the "think about what Obama was doing at the same age bit". Please tell us what your implying? Are you saying that because Mr Obama is Black he had to be doing something illigal?

Man you Hillabites are real down right low........I myself was going to wait to make up my mind who my choice was going to be. But with the likes of you in her corner, I will not vote for her.

Me

Posted by: naokon | January 23, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans may hate the Clintons more than anybody else right now, but if Obama gets the nomination, they will hate him, and his family, and his associates with every ounce of their being. Hate is what they do best, and most often. Governing is what they do least and worst. This is why I oppose "reaching across the aisle" or any form of compromise. The American people oppose the war and the policies of the Republican party and they will spend YEARS in the wilderness.
BTW, of course the reporter asked about something bad somebody said. Conflict is what reporters cover. They shouldn't be called "reporters", but "conflicters".

Posted by: richard_davis | January 23, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton disrespects a woman? What else is new? It says quite a lot that, while having Bill out campaigning for her, Hillary doesn't want to be seen anywhere near him as he does it.....

Posted by: ojordan3 | January 23, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Hillary's admiring comments about Ronald Reagan as they appear on pg. 404 of Tom Brokaw's book "Boom" :

"He was a child of the Depression, so he understood it [economic pressures on the working and middle class]. When he had those big tax cuts and they went oo far, he oversaw the largest tax increase. He could call the Soviet Union the Evil Empire and then negotiate arms-control agreements. He played the balance and the music beautifully."

Posted by: Christina3 | January 23, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

The real sorry acts are those who seem to have such an unbearable grudge against the Clintons. I have not been especially inclined towards the Clintons but this is getting out of hand and I am getting to really, really dislike Obama and his supporters. You guys are top notch obnoxious things - worse than the Republicans. Your militant, character destroying, mob mentality is getting to be worse than that of the so-called neocons. Why are the Clintons not allowed to defend themselves? I appreciate Clinton trying to point out Obama's contradictions. You know what, I checked Obama's full, in-context statements on Reagan and the guy was pathetically praising Republicans and wiping out all the Democrats have achieved since the 90s. How can a guy saying such things change politics and make a good leader. What are you guys smoking?

Posted by: vishalg_99 | January 23, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

The real sorry acts are those who seem to have such an unbearable grudge against the Clintons. I have not been especially inclined towards the Clintons but this is getting out of hand and I am getting to really, really dislike Obama and his supporters. You guys are top notch obnoxious things - worse than the Republicans. Your militant, character destroying, mob mentality is getting to be worse than that of the so-called neocons. Why are the Clintons not allowed to defend themselves? I appreciate Clinton trying to point out Obama's contradictions. You know what, I checked Obama's full, in-context statements on Reagan and the guy was pathetically praising Republicans and wiping out all the Democrats have achieved since the 90s. How can a guy saying such things change politics and make a good leader. What are you guys smoking?

Posted by: vishalg_99 | January 23, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

CLINTON, ANGER AND A QUESTION OF RAPE

What has gotten into Bill Clinton, he of red-faced outbursts of anger, Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson asked Tuesday.

Katha Pollitt of the liberal Nation Magazine, an improbable ally of Hillary's "vast rightwing conspiracy" already gave one answer (http://www.thenation.com/doc/19990322/pollitt ):

"We will never know the truth behind Juanita Broaddrick's claim that Bill Clinton raped her in a Little Rock hotel room in l978. The most you can say about it, which is also the least you can say about it, is that her story is credible ... investigations by NBC News and reporting from the Washington Post poked no major holes in it.

"She has as much corroboration as Anita Hill--friends who say she told them about the assault at the time, one of whom says she saw her immediately after with a bruised and swollen lip. ... the best Clinton's defenders can come up with is that rape doesn't fit his 'MO'--as if, after all the backing and filling and prevaricating and outright lying, we know what this man's MO really is."

More recently Christopher Hitchens, also of the independent left, has written
(http://www.slate.com/id/2182065 ):
"In my opinion, Gennifer Flowers was telling the truth; so was Monica Lewinsky, and so was Kathleen Willey, and so, lest we forget, was Juanita Broaddrick, the woman who says she was raped by Bill Clinton.... Yet one constantly reads that both Clintons, including the female who helped intensify the slanders against her mistreated sisters, are excellent on women's "issues."

Then there was one of the original Washington Post stories, "Clinton Accuser's Story Aired"
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics... ), that was very sympathetic to Ms. Broaddrick:

"Juanita Broaddrick told her story to a national television audience last night, saying she did not tell authorities 21 years ago of her contention that Bill Clinton sexually assaulted her because 'I just don't think anyone would have believed me.'

"In a gripping account punctuated by sobs, the Arkansas woman told "Dateline NBC" that in her Little Rock hotel room, Clinton suddenly 'turned me around and started kissing me, and that was a real shock. I first pushed him away. I just told him 'no.'... He tries to kiss me again. He starts biting on my lip.... And then he forced me down on the bed. I just was very frightened. I tried to get away from him. I told him 'no.'... He wouldn't listen to me.'

Yet today, somehow, the media is more interested in covering the presidential "horse race" than looking at hard truths while professional "women's rights activists", whistle softly and look past the individual carnage and the possibilities for a reprise of Oval Office embarrassment.

Posted by: Martinedwinandersen | January 23, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

CLINTON, ANGER AND A QUESTION OF RAPE

What has gotten into Bill Clinton, he of red-faced outbursts of anger, Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson asked Tuesday.

Katha Pollitt of the liberal Nation Magazine, an improbable ally of Hillary's "vast rightwing conspiracy" already gave one answer (http://www.thenation.com/doc/19990322/pollitt ):

"We will never know the truth behind Juanita Broaddrick's claim that Bill Clinton raped her in a Little Rock hotel room in l978. The most you can say about it, which is also the least you can say about it, is that her story is credible ... investigations by NBC News and reporting from the Washington Post poked no major holes in it.

"She has as much corroboration as Anita Hill--friends who say she told them about the assault at the time, one of whom says she saw her immediately after with a bruised and swollen lip. ... the best Clinton's defenders can come up with is that rape doesn't fit his 'MO'--as if, after all the backing and filling and prevaricating and outright lying, we know what this man's MO really is."

More recently Christopher Hitchens, also of the independent left, has written
(http://www.slate.com/id/2182065 ):
"In my opinion, Gennifer Flowers was telling the truth; so was Monica Lewinsky, and so was Kathleen Willey, and so, lest we forget, was Juanita Broaddrick, the woman who says she was raped by Bill Clinton.... Yet one constantly reads that both Clintons, including the female who helped intensify the slanders against her mistreated sisters, are excellent on women's "issues."

Then there was one of the original Washington Post stories, "Clinton Accuser's Story Aired"
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics... ), that was very sympathetic to Ms. Broaddrick:

"Juanita Broaddrick told her story to a national television audience last night, saying she did not tell authorities 21 years ago of her contention that Bill Clinton sexually assaulted her because 'I just don't think anyone would have believed me.'

"In a gripping account punctuated by sobs, the Arkansas woman told "Dateline NBC" that in her Little Rock hotel room, Clinton suddenly 'turned me around and started kissing me, and that was a real shock. I first pushed him away. I just told him 'no.'... He tries to kiss me again. He starts biting on my lip.... And then he forced me down on the bed. I just was very frightened. I tried to get away from him. I told him 'no.'... He wouldn't listen to me.'

Yet today, somehow, the media is more interested in covering the presidential "horse race" than looking at hard truths while professional "women's rights activists", whistle softly and look past the individual carnage and the possibilities for a reprise of Oval Office embarrassment.

Posted by: Martinedwinandersen | January 23, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

BC is out of control -- in the process of trying to get back in control. He has sullied the office he held with his new role of hit man for the HC Campaign. I voted for him twice, but the thought of HC and BC him back in the WH makes me sick. Time to move on BC, and get back to the process of saving your reputation with good works. Jimmy C. should be your role model. Now we see the vindictive, mean, angry BC.... bummer.

Posted by: wbr655 | January 23, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Did the Clintons steal NV? This story is driving me crazy. Can someone investigate this? And how this isn't the lead story on the nightly news?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080124/ap_on_el_pr/obama_nevada;_ylt=AsN8zKfxtZZw5WTcbx46AwuM5QcF

Posted by: flwilliams87 | January 23, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

"Yew done fergot ta keep tellin' evvyone thet evverbuddy loves ME an' thet ah oughtta be Prizdin o' th' Werrl!? Shee-OOT, iffen the 'Tear BAG' don't git ee-licted, ah ain't nivver 'onn' git her outta the house! Yew go ax Ankleless Annie who done beed our first black prizdin! No one knows better than the waddlin', quackin' klutz who married him ohn the lam fum a-flunkin' the DC bar twicet! What be there aside fum draft-dodgin', hag-marryin', monster-spawnin', public-propitty soilin', adultery, perjury, impeachmint, public-propitty destruction & stealin', disbarmint an' egregious disregard fer personal hygiene that yew don't unnerstann'? Na', babe, lemme shove this here fist in yer face wif mah filthy-fangernailed fanger a-pointin' atcha jes' like that there great right-wing conspirator O'Reilly! That'll larn ye our white-trash manners!"

Posted by: sawargos | January 23, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

This is why Hillary will never be president. Bill never accepts responsibility. All the lying and denying is so 90s. Enough already.
In November the Clinton's greatest success will be in increasing the anti-clinton vote and what a tragedy that will be for Democrats in close races.

Posted by: sbundley | January 23, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

laplumelefirmament: Can you post that again, I missed it the first 30 times. Sheeesh!

Posted by: MajorMelFunkshion | January 23, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

I'm getting really tired os hearing, seeing, reading, Bill Cinton. Listening to Hillary is bad enough without Bill Clinton being, front, and center. Bill, go find another Monica, or something, to help you take your mind off of Hillary's candidacy.

Posted by: buzzm1 | January 23, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

I agree, with the statements ..enough of the bushes and the Clintons ..together they have set back the US economy 50 years... we areapproaching third world because of the two.
As for HRC, where is the experience...I really don't see it ... a wife of the governor and the President ...Hey how bout the republicans nominate Babara Bush ...the wife of a VP and president, the mother of two state governors...
In fact that experience run will run itself out if MCCain is the other candidate...will she claim he is too old ...I will vote for anybody other than HRC ..enough of her and her husband...time for a change and that change does not include anti US persons like the Clintons, Guilliani's, and the Bushes...

Posted by: mrcmdm | January 23, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

You pointed out a thing I want to say for a while. Media has rarely checked with the people in question if they are positive to Clintons. They looked like doing fact checker", like on dirty actions by the Culinary union, they said no proof for Clinton's complaint, before doing any checking. Media has never checked with anyone from Nevada's teacher's union about their law suit, media just assumed this was from Clinton's hand. Media's bias and irresponsibility has been shockingly obvious.

"Clinton says: "Let him go get in an argument with Dolores Huerta, one of the founders of Farm Workers, against what happened in Nevada."

Why don't the reporters ask Dolores Huerta? Was there an attempt by the Culinary Union Bosses to suppress voting by Hillary supporters? Why are the reporters not doing their job? Are Latino maids in Nevada being bullied by the bosses?

I doubt Obama or anyone on his staff had anything to do with it, but that is the job of the journalists. Instead they are trying to serve up nonsense and drivel."

Posted by: yudong2 | January 23, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Didn't Putin pull this same trick off recently in Russia?

Posted by: jameswhanger | January 23, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps Billary will treat the country to another display of their integrity, Lewinski style. Is it any wonder people believe it when he is accused of lying?

Posted by: jameswhanger | January 23, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Here we have, a controversial duo of husband and wife -- a former president, who has, on many occasions, expressed how sorely he misses being president and still desires to be, and his wife who appears to be willing to do almost anything to become president or re-elect her husband by proxy. This ought to be alarming to the American people more than they appear to be.

Clearly, the Clintons thrive in spiteful political atmosphere; it is a wave they have proven to ride better than anyone in the business. Nevertheless, I predicted that soon or later the Clintons will be stuck in their own mud pits. Didn't a certain president from Illinois opine that "You can fool some people sometimes, but you can't fool all the people all the time?"

Posted by: slowtrain | January 23, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

I am not a Clinton fan (either one of them), but Bill is not really "lashing out" as this piece implies. Watch the video. Shame on the Washington Post. What is going on with this newspaper lately?

Anyway, Go Barack!

Posted by: GoHuskies2004 | January 23, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Well, you have to give Bill one thing. He's got a pair of balls. To accuse Obama of running a smear campaign while smearing Obama (and running a smear campaign).. Wow. But then I suppose this shouldn't come as a surprise. It's what the Clintons do/it's their "fun part".

Posted by: spankersanonymous | January 23, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

President Clinton doesn't sound so good to me any more. I've seen a side of the Clintons - both of them - that I find hard to stomach.

Posted by: sherirogers | January 23, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton picked on a woman who stood up to him and didn't cry the way Hillary did looking for sympathy. I've been watching miss Yellin on CNN for awhile now and I think she's a fine reporter. Bill turned red faced again because this woman wouldn't take his nosense. Miss Yellin is my new hero.

Posted by: lumi21us | January 23, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Also, the video is not quite as bad as Anne let it out to be, but the question is, if Bill Clinton feels this is all Obama's people feeding the press in order to get him do what he does not want to, why does he bother to stay and respond at length, i.e. do it. Someone is always making him do something he does not want to do, it seems. I never thought I would dislike this guy. I thought his presidency was great, but, boy, I now see the dark side people have been talking about, and I don't like it. P.S. Hillary has every right to attack Barack but Bill does not, just as I would frown upon it if either Michelle Obama or Elizabeth Edwards attacked Hillary directly or by name.

Posted by: ZnanaB | January 23, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

excuse me but we don't want cigars back in the white house.

slick willy needs a course in anger management

Posted by: orlsdad | January 23, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse


HILLARY'S FRIEND IS AN OLD KKK MEMBER, CHECK THIS OUT HERE:

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/11/15/185205.shtml?et=y

Hilarious. Bill Clinton falls asleep at MLK celebration

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/01/clinton_gets_sleepy_at_mlk_day.php

CLINTON SAYS WE HAVE THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT BECAUSE LYNDON JOHNSON SIGNED IT.

GOLDWATER RAN A CAMPAIGN AGAINST JOHNSON...
SO WHY WAS SHE CAMPAIGNING FOR BARRY GOLDWATER WHO WAS AGAINST THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT???

BY THE WAY CHECK OUT BILL CLINTON'S RACIST POSTCARD HE SENT TO HIS GRANDMA IN 1966 DURING THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.

http://serr8d.blogspot.com/2007/10/bill-clinton-racist-postcard-buy-it-now.html

Posted by: laplumelefirmament | January 23, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

The "indomitable" duo of husband and wife -- a former president, who clearly still desires to be president, directly or indirectly, and his wife who appears to be willing to do almost anything to become president, ought to be alarming to the American people more than they appear to be.

Clearly, the Clintons thrive in spiteful political atmosphere; it is a wave they have proven to ride better than anyone in the business. Nevertheless, I predicted that soon or later the Clintons will be stuck in their own mud pits. Didn't a certain president from Illinois opine that "You can fool some people sometimes, but you can't fool all the people all the time?"

Posted by: slowtrain | January 23, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

The Clintons have learned well from the Bush machine. Did anyone tell them we don't want that back in the White House?

Posted by: golfhokie | January 23, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Bill and Hillary need to calm down-so does Obama. They are destroying each other.
As far as Bill saying that Hillary's and Obama's positions on Iraq are identical, that is nonsense. Obama was against the war in 2002, and Hillary voted for it. That is the truth, whether Bill likes it or not. Hillary votes for whatever is the current version of political correctness. That is not leadership-that is being a sheep.
It is also appalling that she compares her service as a Director on Walmart's Board (during which Walmart did NOT offer singificant health insurance to its employees) with 5 hours of work that Obama performed as a Junior Associate in a law firm, preparing a brief for a "slum lord". Obama was a junior employee;he did what he was told. Hillary was a Director of a major firm. She did nothing to help the employees of Walmart. There is a hell of a lot of difference between being a Director and a junior law associate.If Hillary does not get it, then one has to wonder about her intelligence.
Hillary and Bill, keep this behavior up and lose the election. This is the reason why many people do not like Hillary-half truths and being an attack dog all the time. I am a lifelong democrat; I will vote for her, but I know a lot of people who will not, but will vote for Obama.
So, Hillary and Bill, COOL IT. You are hurting yourself and the Democrats in general.

Posted by: vdalal | January 23, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

I concur with ZnanaB. Since Bill Clinton is clearly uneasy with reporters simply doing their jobs, the press should simply ignore him. Let's see how long he lasts when there's no one to record his every word... The man is addicted to power and celebrity. Stop enabling him!

Moreover, what he has to say isn't worth the coverage. I thought his wife was running for President? Lately, it seems like everything out of his mouth is either about himself or trashing Obama. Leave him alone and cover the actual CANDIDATES!!!

Posted by: GordonsGirl | January 23, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Isn't it convinient that Hillary is nowhere in sight?!

This has all come about because the Mainstream Media is taking such a hard-hit for the tidal wave of coverage FOR the Clinton Cartel!

Even though 'Hillary Approved of this messege.' She gets a clean sheat. No!!! She is a dirty rotten Lobbyist Pig and we need to unleash our attack on the media and the Clintons.

Have a nice evening...

and remember to Vote for Edwards in '08

For Meaningful Change

Posted by: theman_in_black | January 23, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse


What a waste of space here lets just all agree the Clinton are racist until Sunday and then maybe Senator Obamas campaign will stop yelling fire... Racist Racist now can we talk health care, stimulus, college education, student debt and on and on and on surely these are of interest to SC also, now if you really fear the racist behavior of the Clinton and that they will harm the black community by all means continue to throw the R bomb

Posted by: p_peppermint | January 23, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Is the media promoting the Race issue or is it the Candidates?

Video

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=1622


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Posted by: jeffboste | January 23, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Can media stop attacking the clintons. I know you dont like them.

Posted by: VoterfromIL | January 23, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

I think Bill and Hillary Clinton are just great. The press needs to take some lessons from the Democrats as well. In the past 7 years, the press was hammered, lied to and rediculed by the Bushies. And what did the press do? They rolled over and pretended dead. Clintons are not going to take the s___ from the press.

By the way, when was the last time the Washington Post endorsed candidate got elected president?

Posted by: gwshening | January 23, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

This is a total mischaracterization of what the video shows. It is amazing that the Post can't report the news without trying to make it.

Posted by: awise | January 23, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton ROCKS!

Posted by: JoeCHI | January 23, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

My respect for this man is draining away, drop by drop, on a daily basis. Please, Mr. President, shut up!

Posted by: soonerthought | January 23, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse


"Lashed out?"

Like Bill Clinton, the video of his respinse is pisted online and that was hardly "lashing out" as the writer states.

Gee I wonder if Anne has any bias? Kind of like Dana Milbank maybe?

Posted by: ams40 | January 23, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

HILLARY'S FRIEND IS AN OLD KKK MEMBER, CHECK THIS OUT HERE:

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/11/15/185205.shtml?et=y

Hilarious. Bill Clinton falls asleep at MLK celebration

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/01/clinton_gets_sleepy_at_mlk_day.php

CLINTON SAYS WE HAVE THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT BECAUSE LYNDON JOHNSON SIGNED IT.

GOLDWATER RAN A CAMPAIGN AGAINST JOHNSON...
SO WHY WAS SHE CAMPAIGNING FOR BARRY GOLDWATER WHO WAS AGAINST THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT???

BY THE WAY CHECK OUT BILL CLINTON'S RACIST POSTCARD HE SENT TO HIS GRANDMA IN 1966 DURING THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.

http://serr8d.blogspot.com/2007/10/bill-clinton-racist-postcard-buy-it-now.html

Posted by: laplumelefirmament | January 23, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Single issue voters commit a grave disservice their own cause when they seek to engage others in a pre-election debate and then repeatedly dismiss as irrelevent any concerns other voters have about a broad range of different topics.

For example, those who only are concerned only about stem-cell research (pro or con), or those dedicated to single-payer healthcare, or repealing the No Child Left Behind statutes - to the exclusion of genuine interest by other voters in matters such as, for example, the national ecomony, global warming, or the War in Iraq, may cause others to turn away possible candidate support.

Strident dismissal of other voters' concerns tend to diminsh the value of even the most fervently held point of view when the speaker cannot acknowledge that there are other issues equally vital to other people - and perhaps, to the nation.

We voters must consider more than whether a particular candidate is committed to just a single issue....the President must lead us on a spectrum of issues and, more importantly, must have those personal qualities we feel will enhance the likelihood of anything substantive resulting from a term in office.

Posted by: gandalfthegrey | January 23, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Will you please stop reporting these Bill Clinton outburst a few days before every primary. That is the whole point of these outbursts. What do you think is going to be covered the next few days and will drown out everything, including the "Hope" message Obama is selling. I bet that dampens the enthusiasm of would be voters. And who benefits? The Clintons!

Posted by: ZnanaB | January 23, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Will you please stop reporting these Bill Clinton outburst a few days before every primary. That is the whole point of these outbursts. What do you think is going to be covered the next few days and will drown out everything, including the "Hope" message Obama is selling. I bet that dampens the enthusiasm of would be voters. And who benefits? The Clintons!

Posted by: ZnanaB | January 23, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Will you please stop reporting these Bill Clinton outburst a few days before every primary. That is the whole point of these outbursts. What do you think is going to be covered the next few days and will drown out everything, including the "Hope" message Obama is selling. I bet that dampens the enthusiasm of would be voters. And who benefits? The Clintons!

Posted by: ZnanaB | January 23, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Anne,
I think it is you who are being disingenuous by characterizing Bill Clinton response as "unloading" on the press. I watched the video and he seemed quite calm and, according to his view of things, reasonable. Much of the distortion of the issues in these matters does come from the press, which in its typically cynical and morally bankrupt fashion enjoys nothing more than a good cat fight. Democrats would be well advised to take your cheap shots with a grain of salt and remember that the Washington Post--as well as the other establishment newspapers--was all too willing to let George Bush and his minions get away with 936 outright lies in the lead up to the Iraq war. This is the kind of quality journalism we have come to expect. It is too bad that people like you are allowed to inject your pathetic opinions into so-called news stories. You are doing a disservice to the politicians you cover and the readers you (supposedly) serve.

Posted by: grgoodmn | January 23, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Well, beyond whatever you want to say about the tit for tat between campaigns, Bill's got it right here. This reporter shares the blame. Cheap reporting. But also an easy individual to spin by both campaigns. Like a yo yo the reporter is pulled up and down. Bill is slick enough that you might say that he just walked the dog because you know that reporter thought he was rolling this story out himself.

Posted by: snapple1 | January 23, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Please somebody come and explain to these people about democracy. As if apparatchik of a different Hussein from Iraq, they are talking and limiting who can campaign in the presidential campaign and what can be spoken out. Please somebody please educate them!

Posted by: teak1 | January 23, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Clinton says: "Let him go get in an argument with Dolores Huerta, one of the founders of Farm Workers, against what happened in Nevada."

Why don't the reporters ask Dolores Huerta? Was there an attempt by the Culinary Union Bosses to suppress voting by Hillary supporters? Why are the reporters not doing their job? Are Latino maids in Nevada being bullied by the bosses?

I doubt Obama or anyone on his staff had anything to do with it, but that is the job of the journalists. Instead they are trying to serve up nonsense and drivel.

Posted by: AKafir | January 23, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

svreader:
You've read the play book too! Unfortunately, your "cut and paste" posts make you look like nothing but a shill as well. You are correct,however, that the robotic replies screaming absurd stuff are irritating regardless of which candidate they support or attack.

Posted by: jonathanmstevens | January 23, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Clinton-Bashers --

Stuff the character attacks. Nobody believes anything you say

Lets talk about Policy.

Hillary Clinton will get us all Universal Health Insurance.

You'll probably break your hand punching the wall after Senator Clinton wins the Presidency,
so it will come in very handy for you.

Get used to saying "President Clinton" all over again.

It has a really nice sounnd.

President Clinton. President Clinton.

I missed saying it.

It will be good to say it again.

President Clinton. President Clinton.

Over and over.

President Clinton, President Clinton.

Have a nice day.

Posted by: svreader | January 23, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

CRIME STATS

- Number of individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine who have been convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes: 47
- Number of these convictions during Clinton's presidency: 33
- Number of indictments/misdemeanor charges: 61
- Number of congressional witnesses who have pleaded the Fifth Amendment, fled the country to avoid testifying, or (in the case of foreign witnesses) refused to be interviewed: 122

Posted by: laplumelefirmament | January 23, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Classic Clinton; just as they did with the "voter suppression" in Nevada, they are accusing the other side of they themselves are doing. Bill is very good at it, but antagonizing the press is probably a mistake.

Posted by: jonathanmstevens | January 23, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

This election comes down to one question.

Which candidate will fight for the rights of the middle class?

Which candidate can and will stand up to the Republicans and fix the damage Bush/Cheney and the Republicans have done to America?

We've tried apeasement.

It hasn't worked.

We know that as surely as we know anything in the world.

The Republicans have rubbed our face in it.

From their standpoint, Republicans have no reason to compromise or to give in to Democrats on anything.

The only way Democrats are going to get anything they want is to fight for it and win.

We need a President that can stand up for our rights.

The Republicans are doing just fine standing up for the rights of the upper 1/2 of 1%.

They don't need any help from Democrats.

The other 99.5% of Americans need as much help from the Democrats as possible.

We need Universal Health Care.
We need to end the War and Bring our Troops Home.
We need to balance the budget.
We need a middle class tax cut.
We need to become competitive again.
We need to restore America's reputation in the world.
We need a "no-nonsense" President that knows what's broken and how to fix it.

That's why I'm voting for Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: svreader | January 23, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

The Clintons are as polarizing as Bush and are not making inaccurate statements, they are outright lying. Shame on people making statements like Clinton will get us universal health care like none of the other candidates have great health care plans. And with the Clintons you don't know what you will get because they lie and people who lie do not do what they say they will. Look at Bush, when he lied about weapons of mass destruction he started a war. We do not need more people like Bush or the Clintons, have some self respect for yourself. The Clintons will not take care of you, they will only take care of themselves.

Posted by: dan.littlejohn | January 23, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: laplumelefirmament | January 23, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

HILLARY'S FRIEND IS AN OLD KKK MEMBER, CHECK THIS OUT HERE:

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/11/15/185205.shtml?et=y

Hilarious. Bill Clinton falls asleep at MLK celebration

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/01/clinton_gets_sleepy_at_mlk_day.php

CLINTON SAYS WE HAVE THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT BECAUSE LYNDON JOHNSON SIGNED IT.

GOLDWATER RAN A CAMPAIGN AGAINST JOHNSON...
SO WHY WAS SHE CAMPAIGNING FOR BARRY GOLDWATER WHO WAS AGAINST THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT???

BY THE WAY CHECK OUT BILL CLINTON'S RACIST POSTCARD HE SENT TO HIS GRANDMA IN 1966 DURING THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.

http://serr8d.blogspot.com/2007/10/bill-clinton-racist-postcard-buy-it-now.html

Posted by: laplumelefirmament | January 23, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

ARKANSAS SUDDEN DEATH SYNDROME

- Number of persons in the Clinton machine orbit who are alleged to have committed suicide: 9
- Number known to have been murdered: 12
- Number who died in plane crashes: 6
- Number who died in single car automobile accidents: 3
- Number of one-person sking fatalities: 1
- Number of key witnesses who have died of heart attacks while in federal custody under questionable circumstances: 1
- Number of unexplained deaths: 4
- Total suspicious deaths: 46
- Number of northern Mafia killings during peak years of 1968-78: 30
- Number of Dixie Mafia killings during same period: 156

Posted by: laplumelefirmament | January 23, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Rodham may have been campaigning for Barry Goldwater when she was all of fifteen years old (that's how old she was when he ran for President), but think about what Barack Obama was doing at the same age.

Posted by: prettierthanyou | January 23, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse


HILLARY'S FRIEND IS AN OLD KKK MEMBER, CHECK THIS OUT HERE:

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/11/15/185205.shtml?et=y

Hilarious. Bill Clinton falls asleep at MLK celebration

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/01/clinton_gets_sleepy_at_mlk_day.php

CLINTON SAYS WE HAVE THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT BECAUSE LYNDON JOHNSON SIGNED IT.

GOLDWATER RAN A CAMPAIGN AGAINST JOHNSON...
SO WHY WAS SHE CAMPAIGNING FOR BARRY GOLDWATER WHO WAS AGAINST THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT???

BY THE WAY CHECK OUT BILL CLINTON'S RACIST POSTCARD HE SENT TO HIS GRANDMA IN 1966 DURING THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.

http://serr8d.blogspot.com/2007/10/bill-clinton-racist-postcard-buy-it-now.html

Posted by: laplumelefirmament | January 23, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

'unloads'? 'snapped'? 'let loose'?

what video is anne watching? albeit Bill has had his melt down moments, this was certainly not one of them. he factually and accurately scolded the reporter. reporers do bear a huge responsibity for the drivel they report and keep in the public discourse -- so nice that Bill points that out. not controversial in the slightest.

and for Harpootlian to call the Clinton ad a "lie" - when they directly quote and play the audio clip from obama is hystercial!

apparently Obama lies about himself!

all the things the Clinton campaign has brought up about Obama is based on facts. no where can anyone point to where these "lies" are. it seems like the obama camp is satisfied to just call them "lies" over and over again hoping people believe that, without actually pointing out where the factual inaccuracies are.

obama did drugs - fact he wrote about it in his book - why is that controversial now?

obama said reagan was transformational in a way nixon and clinton was not - fact - the video is there to prove it. that's a direct slam on clinton's presidency - why is that controversial or a 'lie' to point that out?

obama said the republicans were the party of ideas for the last 10-15 years - fact - even if you don't read ANY qualification into that statement (which is a hard row to hoe) he doesn't point out that Clinton was president during those years of republican ideas - so again that's a direct attack on the Clinton years - why is that controversial to point out?

it goes on and on like that... an uncomfortable fact for obama suddenly becomes a "LIE".

silly... and transparent.

Go Hillary!

Posted by: priusdriver | January 23, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

..... did he wag his finger at the reporter during this tirade as he did during another infamous press moment....?

Posted by: yeatsgirl | January 23, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

NEWS FLASH ---

THERE ARE VERY LARGE NUMBERS OF BRAND NEW SCREEN-ID'S ALL BASHING SENATOR CLINTON.

THIS APPEARS TO BE IN RESPONSE TO A DIRECT REQUEST BY RIGHT-WING RADIO.

CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL CLINTON SUPPORTERS -- REPUBLICANS ARE CLEARLY SCARED!!!

HILLARY CLINTON IS GOING TO BE A GREAT PRESIDENT!!!

Posted by: svreader | January 23, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse


HILLARY'S FRIEND IS AN OLD KKK MEMBER, CHECK THIS OUT HERE:

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/11/15/185205.shtml?et=y

Hilarious. Bill Clinton falls asleep at MLK celebration

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/01/clinton_gets_sleepy_at_mlk_day.php

CLINTON SAYS WE HAVE THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT BECAUSE LYNDON JOHNSON SIGNED IT.

GOLDWATER RAN A CAMPAIGN AGAINST JOHNSON...
SO WHY WAS SHE CAMPAIGNING FOR BARRY GOLDWATER WHO WAS AGAINST THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT???

BY THE WAY CHECK OUT BILL CLINTON'S RACIST POSTCARD HE SENT TO HIS GRANDMA IN 1966 DURING THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.

http://serr8d.blogspot.com/2007/10/bill-clinton-racist-postcard-buy-it-now.html

Posted by: laplumelefirmament | January 23, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

THEY USE SCARE TACTICS IN IOWA AGAINST STUDENTS...

THEY USE RACE CARD AGAINST BLACKS IN SOUTH CAROLINA...

THEY USE SMEAR TACTICS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE ABOUT DRUGS AND ABORTION...

THEY USE LAWSUITS IN NEVADA AGAINST HISPANICS...

THEY WILL DO ANYTHING FOR POWER!!!!WELCOME TO THE CLINTONS WORLD!!!

Posted by: laplumelefirmament | January 23, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

HILLARY'S FRIEND IS AN OLD KKK MEMBER, CHECK THIS OUT HERE:

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/11/15/185205.shtml?et=y

Hilarious. Bill Clinton falls asleep at MLK celebration

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/01/clinton_gets_sleepy_at_mlk_day.php

CLINTON SAYS WE HAVE THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT BECAUSE LYNDON JOHNSON SIGNED IT.

GOLDWATER RAN A CAMPAIGN AGAINST JOHNSON...
SO WHY WAS SHE CAMPAIGNING FOR BARRY GOLDWATER WHO WAS AGAINST THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT???

BY THE WAY CHECK OUT BILL CLINTON'S RACIST POSTCARD HE SENT TO HIS GRANDMA IN 1966 DURING THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.

http://serr8d.blogspot.com/2007/10/bill-clinton-racist-postcard-buy-it-now.html

Posted by: laplumelefirmament | January 23, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Clinton-Bashers --

Stuff the character attacks. Nobody believes anything you say

Lets talk about Policy.

Hillary Clinton will get us all Universal Health Insurance.

You'll probably break your hand punching the wall after Senator Clinton wins the Presidency,
so it will come in very handy for you.

Get used to saying "President Clinton" all over again.

It has a really nice sounnd.

President Clinton. President Clinton.

I missed saying it.

It will be good to say it again.

President Clinton. President Clinton.

Over and over.

President Clinton, President Clinton.

Have a nice day.

Posted by: svreader | January 23, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

You know how Dick Nixon portrayed himself as a victim of the press? Yup.

Posted by: scharb | January 23, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

HILLARY'S FRIEND IS AN OLD KKK MEMBER, CHECK THIS OUT HERE:

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/11/15/185205.shtml?et=y

Hilarious. Bill Clinton falls asleep at MLK celebration

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/01/clinton_gets_sleepy_at_mlk_day.php

CLINTON SAYS WE HAVE THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT BECAUSE LYNDON JOHNSON SIGNED IT.

GOLDWATER RAN A CAMPAIGN AGAINST JOHNSON...
SO WHY WAS SHE CAMPAIGNING FOR BARRY GOLDWATER WHO WAS AGAINST THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT???

BY THE WAY CHECK OUT BILL CLINTON'S RACIST POSTCARD HE SENT TO HIS GRANDMA IN 1966 DURING THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.

http://serr8d.blogspot.com/2007/10/bill-clinton-racist-postcard-buy-it-now.html

Posted by: laplumelefirmament | January 23, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

ARKANSAS SUDDEN DEATH SYNDROME

- Number of persons in the Clinton machine orbit who are alleged to have committed suicide: 9
- Number known to have been murdered: 12
- Number who died in plane crashes: 6
- Number who died in single car automobile accidents: 3
- Number of one-person sking fatalities: 1
- Number of key witnesses who have died of heart attacks while in federal custody under questionable circumstances: 1
- Number of unexplained deaths: 4
- Total suspicious deaths: 46
- Number of northern Mafia killings during peak years of 1968-78: 30
- Number of Dixie Mafia killings during same period: 156

Posted by: laplumelefirmament | January 23, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

The Clintons, to adapt a line from Dr. Johnson, were not only corrupt, they were the cause of corruption in others. Yet seldom in America have so many come to excuse so much mendacity and malfeasance as during the Clinton years. Here are some of the facts that have been buried.

RECORDS SET

- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court

Posted by: laplumelefirmament | January 23, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

HILLARY'S FRIEND IS AN OLD KKK MEMBER, CHECK THIS OUT HERE:

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/11/15/185205.shtml?et=y

Hilarious. Bill Clinton falls asleep at MLK celebration

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/01/clinton_gets_sleepy_at_mlk_day.php

CLINTON SAYS WE HAVE THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT BECAUSE LYNDON JOHNSON SIGNED IT.

GOLDWATER RAN A CAMPAIGN AGAINST JOHNSON...
SO WHY WAS SHE CAMPAIGNING FOR BARRY GOLDWATER WHO WAS AGAINST THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT???

BY THE WAY CHECK OUT BILL CLINTON'S RACIST POSTCARD HE SENT TO HIS GRANDMA IN 1966 DURING THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.

http://serr8d.blogspot.com/2007/10/bill-clinton-racist-postcard-buy-it-now.html

Posted by: laplumelefirmament | January 23, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Bill and Hillary Clinton are just like Rove and the other neo-cons. I supported President Clinton for the last 16 years, but I can't do it anymore.

He and his wife are dishonest and lie all the time. It's disgusting.

If Hillary wins the nomination, I won't be voting Democrat in November. I will pray for that Unity party to get a good candidate so I won't have to sit home or vote Republican.

Posted by: dave_dial | January 23, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

ok, i just watched the video. he's not 'snapping' at all. in fact he was pretty calm. is there some reason he's not supposed to answer questions?

but to his point, why do you cover this drivel?

Posted by: stewartb | January 23, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Why not ask the former President and First Lady why they do not care to have the White House Communictions Agency around when they were in the White House?

Posted by: lmrlvsjr | January 23, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

This report is why I, a strong supporter of President Bill Clinton from 1992 to 2001, cannot support Hillary Clinton. I don't want the Clintons and these games that they bring back. It is time for a new approach. Our country needs it; the times demand it. We no longer can afford to ponder what the definition of "is" is.

Posted by: Cyelverton42 | January 23, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

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