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Firefighters Take on Rudy in Florida

Updated 9:56 p.m.
By Matthew Mosk
Florida is brimming with make-or-break intensity for Rudy Giuliani's presidential campaign, so it comes as no surprise that some of his strongest critics are becoming active there.

The International Association of Firefighters today reported spending $67,196 to send out literature in Florida opposing Giuliani's candidacy. Last week, the union spent $43,661 to send members into the state to campaign against the former New York mayor.

In November, the union's president told the Post that its members were battling Giuliani because of what they saw as a pattern of rewarding loyalty over competence in personnel decisions. "It's pretty clear that his judgment on political appointments was weighted more heavily to cronies and friends than to quality," Harold Schaitberger, president of the International Association of Fire Fighters told The Post's Alec MacGillis. "Are we going to have a chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff who's a private first class but who happens to be a friend? Are we going to have a law clerk who becomes attorney general?"

At the time, the Giuliani campaign dismissed the criticism, saying that Giuliani's judgment as a manager was vindicated by his administration's overall success in reducing crime and welfare and improving the city's quality of life and economy.

The Giuliani campaign disputed the reach of the firefighters union. The campaign released a statement from Larry Peterson, who is the division chief of the Jacksonville Fire Department and the national chairman of Firefighters for Rudy.

The IAFF does "not speak for me or for all firefighters. Firefighters from across the country are supporting Rudy Giuliani for all the things he has done to advocate for firemen and first responders, and that he will do for us as President of the United States."

By Web Politics Editor  |  January 23, 2008; 6:35 PM ET
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I wrote this comment in response to an article written in support of Giuliani by Fire Commisioner Safir on 01/08/2008. Some NYC Firemen had commented against Safir's support of Giuliani.
"NYC Fire Fighter Complaint
This complaint is in the guilt by association and attack the messenger (Safir) categories. So, Giuliani is responsible for all fire fighter deaths and not the Islamist terrorists who perpetrated the attack. And, Safir's comments are not valid because the complainer does not like the management policies of Giuliani and Safir? I was involved in fighting a fire in a chemical plant. I forgot about my own personal safety in the course of fighting the fire with other people. Tanks with volatile flammable liquids could have exploded while trying to extinguish the flames. In the Towers, the fire fighters were trying to rescue people only, and not fighting the fire. Therefore, obviously, they bravely were not thinking of their own personal safety. Also, the fire fighters were instructed after the Towers were built that the building floors would not collapse in a normal fire. The collapsibility of the building during a fire caused by a 2000 degrees F flame temperature hydrocarbon fire was determined in a study after September 11, 2001."

Posted by: ronstubby | January 25, 2008 5:14 AM | Report abuse

You owe it to the NY city firefighters in their video exposing Rudy Giuiliani as fraud. They are asking you to please not vote for him:

Please vote for the candidate that truly cares about America, and has the experience to lead us.

Vote for Governor Mike Huckabee

Dan Campbell
Sgt., USMC

Posted by: marinepatriot | January 24, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Another big McCain/Romney fight could push Rudy over the top if he can avoid getting tangled in it. Voters just might forget Kerik, his poor support in fly-over country, cops for mistress guarding, and his increase of NYC's debt 50% to $4.5 billion. It could definitely happen.

Posted by: donttreadonme | January 23, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Giuliani has fallen into third place in the Real Clear Politics polling averages.

It looks like Romney is the candidate with the trend upward. This should make the debate in FL tomorrow more interesting.

It's looking like a McCain/Romney fight with Giuliani sinking.

Posted by: thepoliticalpost | January 23, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

There were a total of FOUR Florida polls released this afternoon alone. Two have McCain up, two have Romney up and Giuliani comes in second twice -- underscoring that this is really anybody's race. Full roundup of four polls here:

Posted by: campaigndiaries | January 23, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

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