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McCain Hits Back at Romney Attacks

At a Florida campaign stop, the Arizona senator calls fellow candidate Mitt Romney the "liberal governor of Massachusetts" and says Romney has "two positions on every issue."

By Juliet Eilperin
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Under attack by former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) openly mocked his opponent for shifting his stance on issues ranging from immigration to climate change.

Responding to Romney's comments that McCain would take the country in a "liberal Democratic course" if elected president, McCain told reporters to consider this critique in light of Romney's record.

"One thing we should give Governor Romney credit for, he is consistent, He's consistently taken both sides of every issue, he has consistently flip-flopped on every issue," he said, after conducting a national security roundtable at Atlantic Marine, a company that produces naval vessels and does detailing on luxury yachts. "If you say different things in different parts of the country and take more than two sides on every issue, it's not going to work over time. That's why we're going to win over Governor Romney both tomorrow, and on Super Tuesday."

Romney suggested McCain's bill to cap and trade greenhouse gas emissions linked to global warming would translate into $1,000 in additional energy costs to U.S. consumers each year; the senator argued that American companies such as General Electric had already brought energy-efficient products to market that save its customers money. "I've seen the innovation of green technologies," he said.

And when asked whether Romney deserved the label of liberal, McCain said, "As the liberal governor of Massachusetts, he raised taxes by $730 million dollars. Just take a look at his record as governor....Certainly his big government mandated health care plan for Massachusetts, which is now half a billion in the hole, is certainly not conservative."

Like Romney, McCain is spending much of his day hopping from one aircraft hanger to another, holding rallies and media events aimed at generating the maximum amount of press coverage. He started the morning surrounded by national security experts such as former Navy Secretary John Lehman, and former CIA director James Woolsey and former Oklahoma governor Frank Keating.

"I continue to enjoy the support of so many people who have served in the military," McCain said, who said his backers are "a good indicator" of what kind of president he would be.

By Washington Post editors  |  January 28, 2008; 10:24 AM ET
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Well, well, what do we see ? All important liemericans together. Anything to explain about building 7 ladies and gentlemen ? Anything to say about using 9 barrels and finding only 1 new barrel ? Keepin up the good news then, cheerio. I whish PRESIDENT OBAMA a lot of wisdom.

Posted by: jwholtkamp | January 29, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

McCain Considers Setting Benchmarks for Iraqis

Posted by: rboyden | January 29, 2008 3:20 AM | Report abuse

Ready for a Challenge?

Try imagining McPain as a "Peacetime" President!

No Conflicts, all quiet!


Posted by: rat-the | January 28, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who supports the Born Again, Faith Based, Pro Life Lying War Criminal Mass Murderer Serial Killer in Chief and the VP of Torture should never be in the WH. Anyone who supports wasting a couple of trillion dollars of taxpayers funds in Illegal Invasions of Sovereign States should never be our leader. If one had any courage, one would call for the Axis of Evil to be indicted for War Crimes. People who support Mission Accomplished is equally culpable in the thousands of murders. These Killers need to face Justice at the International Criminal Court. There is no Statue of Limitations on War Crimes.

Who Would Jesus Kill?

All of these Religious Psychos are Frauds. Only Ignorant Idiots would believe any of them.

Posted by: niberg | January 28, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

JakeD - how convenient that you added in the [for withdrawal] in you the quote from Romney. You will notice that Romney never said timetables [for withdrawal] and milestones he only said that they should set timetables and milestones. Which is completely different.

You would think that it would be obvious that there is a problem with McCain accusations when, to argue for them, you have to distort the quote. Just disgraceful.

McCain on the other hand has made it abundantly clear what his stance on Timetables for withdrawal are.

An Arizona paper reported the following at the first of the year.

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., one of the most stalwart supporters of the war in Iraq, said Thursday that he might propose that the Iraqi government meet certain benchmarks for the United States to continue its engagement.

Fellow senators and independent political scientists said McCain's thinking reflected growing concerns within the Republican Party about the course of the war, and also might mark a turning point for the likely 2008 presidential contender, whose previous unconditional backing of the war may have hurt his prospects.

McCain said Thursday that he hadn't yet decided on precise benchmarks. "They'd have to be specific, and they (Iraqi government officials) would have to meet them," he said.

Asked what penalty would be imposed if Iraq failed to meet his benchmarks, he said: "I think everybody knows the consequences. Haven't met the benchmarks? Obviously, then, we're not able to complete the mission. Then you have to examine your options."

Should we jump to the conclusion here as McCain did for Romney that McCain was implying early withdrawal.

Posted by: ljpitcher77 | January 28, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

We all remember how McCain spiraled into a cesspool of anger and vitriol in 2000 as it became clear Bush was going to get the nomination, right? And after seeing his true character we were all glad we didn't choose him. So why are we going through this all over again 8 years later?

McCain is a war hero. Great. But he doesn't have the temperament, or the intelligence to be president. And "maverick" is a nice way of describing his positions. And he's showing that he doesn't mind twisting the truth.

Please don't nominate McCain! If you know anyone in Florida, email them and make sure they open their eyes. And have them tell 10 friends.

Please stop McCain.

Posted by: mtanne | January 28, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

His record aside, McCain's temperament is a question mark if he should gain the presidency.

This is a quote off a Boston Globe article, "Senator Thad Cochran of Mississippi, who has known Senator John McCain for more than three decades, on Wednesday endorsed Mitt Romney for president.

Cochran said his choice was prompted partly by his fear of how McCain might behave in the Oval Office.

"The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine," Cochran said about McCain by phone. "He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me.""

Think about a that. A hothead with the power to nuke countries.

Posted by: hoops4lifer | January 28, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

McCain is like a Monet. From a distance he looks good. Former POW, Mr Straight Talk, a maverick.

The closer you get the more of a mess he is. Dishonest, unpredictably liberal on critical issues, treacherous, mean spirited, dangerous*, and thin skinned.

(*dangerous because his management style of stubborn, arrogant fighter jock who needs no stinking advice and you are with him or against him is identical to Dubyas - coupled with his Jan 26th claim at a rally you need a an experienced "military man" because the next President will be fighting more wars.

More wars???)

The longer this thing goes the more people see the real McCain.

It may take too long to stop McCain from getting the nomination from the more qualified Republicans, given the MSM has adored him, acted as his wingman and protected him all these years - but no way can the MSM enable him to avoid full public scrutiny if he is the nominee - and the public sees lack of intelligence, his poor character and temperment, and reliance that that he was one of 562 Vietnam POWs and thus More Patriotic Than Thou or anyone else. The sad thing is the media never wanted him to win, for 2 years they have worked so McCain can just be Bob Dole 2.0, trussed up for the carving by Inevitable Hillary. Even easier, because McCain lacks the intelligence, leadership abilities, and the deep honor and respect
both Parties held Bob Dole in.

Or from noting that the more you look, the more you see McCain lies, and lies frequently, and lies are one reason he was passed over as Admiral.

The latest one is discovery that McCain completely misrepresented his War College thesis. He described it as synthesizing all significant data so he could understand the whole war, all the mistakes, and present the lessons learned and that scholars study it.

The truth is McCain wrote only on a narrow subject. POWs in Korea and Vietnam, and possible changes in the UCMJ to excuse POWs who talk under torture. His grand strategic vision in his thesis was basically change the UCMJ, fight to win so POWs aren't held for many years, and say more good things about soldiers in the media. From his footnotes, McCain did minimal research - 4 books and the UCMJ manual, as well as another paper on POWs.

If his thesis was misrepresented, what other claims McCain has made are bogus? Maybe a few details about his captivity?

It would be a shame if we miss out on an Obama-Romney Contest. Two highly intelligent, articulate individuals who would be a fascinating matchup. Maybe the best debate matchup, and most future-leaning one, since JFK-Nixon.
I am also convinced that most of the "flip-flopping" charge on Romney comes from Lefties who still smart that Kerry was killed on changing his vote twice on the same day and who buy into McCain's Victimhood spiel. Truth is, Romney has only "flipped" on one thing, abortion, and did so only after a two-month process of checking with ethicists and theological leaders and Mass constituents before he did so and explained why to the public, while also saying he would not let his personal change reverse what he was elected on. He never flopped back. McCain and Huchabee forces gleefully picked up on the Left & media narrative and continued the "flip-flopper" smear - but in truth, the real flip-floppers who have gone back and forth on several issues are McCain, Edwards, and Hillary.

Posted by: ChrisFord1 | January 28, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

JakeD, good point - McCain did support the surge and he should get credit for that. I just don't think that is enough to base a whole Presidency off of. With many other issues, I believe McCain has been wrong and Romney would do a better job. The ever worsening economy is my big issue this election - I think Romney would do a much better job. McCain has admitted that he would need to read Greenspan's book...not exactly what I'm looking for in the next president.

Posted by: pccu | January 28, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

You know I wouldn't hold much faith in polls saying who is the most electable. A few months ago the Republican who was most electable against the Democrats was Rudy Giuliani... Polls change and remember Romney was elected Governor of Massachusetts, a Republican Mormon does not get elected in that state unless he has the ability to get a board base of support. And pccu is right, what is wrong with changing a position? To me that tells me someone is open minded to new ideas, that's a good thing. I heard a Huckabee speech were he said you can go back 50 years and not find where he has changed any position, and he said he like it was a virtue. I don't see the virtue in it. Being stuck with something you believed in when you were a boy. That's just tells me he is inflexible and hard headed. What is wrong is to run on one position then change it after you are elected. But I have yet to hear Romney ever did that. This election is going to be about the economy, that is Romney's strength. Also McCain can't seem to get Conservatives behind him so i question their turnout if McCain is the nominee. Therefore I think Romney is the best candidate and he also will give the Republicans the best chance to win. GO MITT!!!

Posted by: sovine08 | January 28, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

A few refreshments for the mind and contemplations for both the present and our future:

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."-Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, (1759.)

"Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?" Mrs. Powel of Philadelphia to Ben Franklin. "A republic, if you can keep it," Benjamin Franklin.

"There never was a good war or a bad peace. "-Benjamin Franklin, Letter to Josiah Quincy, Sept. 11, 1773.

"If there be one principle more deeply rooted than any other in the mind of every American, it is that we should have nothing to do with conquest." --Thomas Jefferson, letter, July 28, 1791

It certainly would do us all some good to revisit the writings of the founders and understand that our collective future as a nation was intended to be the outgrowth of mutual compromise, garnered from the consent of the people, not the dictates of a party.

Posted by: old_sarge | January 28, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

McCain sets the record straight - he supports Alito and would appoint judges like him and Roberts to the Supreme Court:

Posted by: alexlyco | January 28, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

JakeD -- Certainly anyone who works at Staples or Domino's should be lauded for their initiative, and I would not argue that these jobs do not have value. However, usually the argument about job creation centers around high quality jobs with decent benefits to replace manufacturing jobs lost overseas. And I think the "turnaround" of Staples was based largely on hiring part-timers without benefits. It's telling that Mitt did NOT campaign that he would create jobs like those he helped create at Staples!

Thanks for your analysis of the Mass. economy during Mitt's term -- it has helped me think through what I was trying to say. I agree that what was going on in the economy was relevant -- but Mitt was UNEQUIVOCAL in stating that his experience would result in job growth, no ifs, ands, or buts. If he had said his experience was best suited to getting the job done, that's one thing. But he has this way of oversimplifying complex problems -- e.g., he will singlehandedly (if you can hold $20 billion in one hand) fix the auto industry (but only in Michigan). I guess it comes down to I think Romney has by far the biggest BS factor going (and that's saying a lot in this field), and that he let us down bigtime in Mass. I resent that, and can't believe anyone, let alone reasonable people such as some of you on this board, are buying Romney's tripe. We all deserve better.

Posted by: Ford1998 | January 28, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

PCCU, Romney is just like the R'pubs of the Old Dominion. In their creative avoidance of raising usage fees better known as gasoline taxes (because that is not what R'pubs do)they imposed other fees, fondly referred to as 'abusive driver fees' and thereby made every police department in the state of Virginia a revenue collection agency. They allowed regional assessments (taxes) in the Northern VA counties and Hampton Roads area, shirking the state's responsibility to fund ongoing transportation infrastructure funding. At least McCain is not afraid to call a tax a tax and understands that nothing is free and the obligation of the government to fund what it legislates. Call me 'Disgusted and Disgruntled in Northern VA.' Throw the bums out! Where is Teddy or FDR when you need them? Oh, that's right, they died trying. And another thing, since when did the Republican Party forget it began as a 'progressive' party? Oh yeah, that's why Teddy Roosevelt quit the party and started a competing progressive party. You know, no one likes to pay taxes but, you can't have the necessary infrastructure for society without them.

Posted by: old_sarge | January 28, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

McCain, the guy with the 82% lifetime ACU rating; who's pro-life; who stood with Bush on the Iraq war when few others would; who wants to extend the Bush tax cuts permanently and abolish the AMT; is a liberal?

Some of you have to wake up. Romney would get absolutely clobbered in a national election, even by Hillary. I'm as conservative as they come and I'm not totally in love with all of McCain's past stances, but come on. The Republican primary is not a synonym for "pick the guy who will get slaughtered in November."

Look at the RCP poll averages - McCain is even with Billary and Obama, while Romney gets absolutely trounced and beaten like a rented mule. No thanks.

Maybe some of you will feel great about yourselves if you help nominate the guy that will assure that Billary will (with the Democrat rubber stamp Senate) nominate 3 new Supreme Court justices - I, for one, am not going to allow that to happen by supporting Romney.

Posted by: alexlyco | January 28, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

The economic right wing's message machine has now tied itself to Romney, so we're being duly inundated with these web comments on his behalf. This Romney echo chamber can't change the fact that he is a documented liar, a flagrant opportunist, lacking in any morals. Trying to explain the truth to him would be like trying to explain the color red to somebody born blind. Is this the best the Republican party can do?

Posted by: dyinglikeflies | January 28, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

To be fair, pccu, 25 years is a long time and Senator McCain did stand by Bush's surge when few others would -- I will certainly vote for McCain if he's the GOP pick, but I just think that Romney would be better -- right now, it's up to the Republicans to decide who could best beat Obama or Clinton.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Ford1998, you are demonstrating, quite beautifully, how McCain and all of his supporters completely fly off the handle and become mean-spirited when they are challenged on anything. McCain is a loose cannon that gets flustered when people have a differing opinion them him. By the way, I did a google search on this whole idea that Romney promised 100,000 jobs, and just as I sent me to Good job on swallowing the garbage you are being fed. I lived and worked in Boston, Romney dramatically improved the city and state while I was there. Over the past 25 years, McCain has done nothing good, but author liberal legislation. Don't tell McCain that though, he might start yelling at you. flustered

Posted by: pccu | January 28, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse


You never did answer what you think is wrong with Domino's or Staples (Staples is advertising on THIS site no less). Is a job created in that sector "less" of a job to you?

Also, Massachusetts suffered the deepest job losses in the nation after the tech boom went bust in 2001 because of its large technology sector, shedding 6 percent of its jobs, compared to the 2 percent nationally. Weak job growth finally resumed in early 2004 and has picked up modestly over the past year -- I think there were indeed more than 100,000 jobs recovered during Romney's term -- but that is really beside the point to Mitt excellent business experience. Point to ONE other candidate with similar qualifications in that regard.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Unlike so many other candidates, Mitt is cautious about the stands he makes--I don't think he was ever "pro-choice," except by the stupid way we define the position. But he was willing to listen to those around him in an effort to do what was right for his state. Mitt Romney is one who will go into the White House, surround himself with intelligent people, and carefully make decisions.

Economy: Go Mitt Romney!
Family Values: Go Mitt Romney!
Iraq War: Go Mitt Romney! We need good planning!
Immigration: Go Mitt Romney!

Posted by: wonmapson | January 28, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

pccu, would you like to pay the fees I now have to pay or the higher local property taxes resulting from Romneys state aid cuts? I'm not surprised you're a Romney supporter, because it is his MO to argue semantics rather than getting to an actual point. But even if your analysis of his tax record is dead on (which is not the case), what about jobs? He PROMISED 100,000 new jobs in Mass. because he is the Economic Wiz -- we ended up above Michigan and Katrina ravaged Louisiana. Weasel your way past that one -- maybe "jobs" is a Mitt acronym, "Just Obviously B.S." or something like that?

Posted by: Ford1998 | January 28, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

RASMUSSEN: ROMNEY PULLS INTO LEAD IN NATIONAL POLL; leads by 15 among conservatives . . . [candidates are tied at 31% in Florida] . . .

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

It is funny to see how liberals change their story once they are challenged. At first they said that Romney raised taxes, once they are challenged, they say that he didn't raise taxes, he raised fees. Keep on grasping at straws while the true conservative, Mitt Romney, gets the nomination. After all the complaining about Romney's "contrast" ads, it was Huckabee and McCain who were the first to start slinging the mud - very Presidential. McCain is so terrified about losing that he is willing to throw his integrity out the window. Poor form Senator!

Posted by: pccu | January 28, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

McCain is liberal...he made liberal deals with:

Ted Kennedy

He is friends with and entertained becoming VP to John Kerry???

He wants open borders!

He voted against a bill that would prevent convicted felons from becoming US citezens!

Posted by: lightgreenpen-ocean | January 28, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Lying is tantamount to cheating -- and everytime Mitt Romney says he cut taxes in Massachusetts without noting he raised fees a bucketoad and forced local government taxes up; or created jobs here but fails to note he PROMISED 100,000 new jobs;everytime he misrepresents his opponent's position my oversimplifying or quoting out of context -- with that chilling smile caressing his cunning words -- he is lying and cheating. To have the gall to whine about others misrepresenting his positions only serves to further his lies. Romney is the biggest dissembler in the field. I guess if being the most conservative candidate is more important than being truthful, then Romney is the President you deserve. I think we deserve better, and that just about any of the major candidates, a few of the minor ones, and 1,000's of people who are not running would make a President.

Posted by: Ford1998 | January 28, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Lying is tantamount to cheating -- and everytime Mitt Romney says he cut taxes in Massachusetts without noting he raised fees a bucketoad and forced local government taxes up; or created jobs here but fails to note he PROMISED 100,000 new jobs;everytime he misrepresents his opponent's position my oversimplifying or quoting out of context -- with that chilling smile caressing his cunning words -- he is lying and cheating. To have the gall to whine about others misrepresenting his positions only seves to further his lies. Romney is the biggest dissembler in the field. I guess if being the most conservative candidate is more important than being truthful, then Romney is the President you deserve. I think we deserve better, and that just about any of the major candidates, a few of the minor ones, and 1,000's of people who are not running would make a President.

Posted by: Ford1998 | January 28, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Hey Ford1998, did you just cut and paste from McCain's website? You speak in generalities and state them as facts. Having lived in Boston while Romney was Governor, I saw firsthand how he turned Mass around. He took over a Dem mess and constantly stood up to the liberals. Check your facts before you bother typing them. Romney is the smartest, most successful, and most talented candidate out there.

Posted by: pccu | January 28, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Mitt's record as governor is awesome. He is ahead in the polls in MA!! If he was such a bad governor why do his own people want to vote for him??? Good grief any of you actually look at the real record?? Or are all of you just going off of a bunch of internet sound bites??? Mitt has not changed his stance on his personal views. He changed his political stance on abortion - ONCE! For the better I might add. Isn't that why all of the pro-lifers preach pro-life??? If they didn't expect to change anyone's mind - then why are they wasting their money???

Posted by: lightgreenpen-ocean | January 28, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse


Are you still around? I've asked several questions of you, but I have received no answers.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps all of the GOP candidates should take a deep breath and remember Reagan's 11th Commandment:

"Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow Republican."

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse


What's wrong with Domino's or Staples (advertising on THIS site no less)?

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Give me a break! Romney did not cheat in the debates...some stupid person in the audience made some freaky comment about the subject that was alread going on. Or the video was tampered with. I can take my $2 computer and create the same video with McCain in about 2 seconds.

Posted by: lightgreenpen-ocean | January 28, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Wow...wasn't it McCain that pledged back in NH that he would not run a negative campaign????

Talk about pulling a Huckabee!!!

McDuck is now in league with Huckashmuck!

Posted by: lightgreenpen-ocean | January 28, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Mitt Romney can not be trusted. He will say anything and pay anything to win. Just look at the debate, Romney cheated. Do you want someone dishonest and deceptive as our president? Don't believe me? Look at these 3 videos of the Florida debate and tell me Romney did not cheat. There is no denying it.

Posted by: SabreHawk | January 28, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

... or maybe you can get a piece of that $20 billion going to the Michigan auto industry -- which will be be raised without raising taxes?

Posted by: Ford1998 | January 28, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse


Romney is the best choice only if record means nothing to you. He was a disinterested Governor who accomplished little until he remembered he was running for President and had to get a few good headlines/soundbites. Economic Guru? He had a terrible record as governor -- one of the lowest states in terms of job creation, although he PROMISED he "knew were jobs came from" and would create 100,000! Cut state aid to local governments, putting the burden on local property taxes, and raised fees 1/2 a billion $, but claims to be a tax cutter! Vote for Romney and enjoy your new job at Staples or Domino's!

Posted by: Ford1998 | January 28, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Maybe John McCain should learn from an older man, Winston Churchill:

"A prisoner of war is a man who tries to kill you and fails, and then asks you not to kill him."

"However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results."

"Battles are won by slaughter and maneuver. The greater the general, the more he contributes in maneuver, the less he demands in slaughter."

Posted by: tropicalfolk | January 28, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

All you who buy-in to this media and opponent driven idea that Mitt Romney is a flip-flopper are gullible saps. Mitt Romney changed his views on abortion - big deal! A guy believed one thing and then when he was actually faced with implementing his beliefs, he had a change of heart. The guy should be praised for being mature enough to evolve his opinions as he gets more facts. So many times we have stubborn, hard-headed politicians that form a belief and then stick to it no matter what scientists, economists, or experts have to say. Our country has gotten into a lot of trouble over the years for this stubborn attitude.

All of the other issue of supposed "flip-flopping" are garbage. Romney has never supported illegal immigration (like McCain), never supported raising taxes (like McCain), never supported same-sex marriage (he only said he would be a friend to gays - I don't want a President declaring all out war on any group of Americans, including gays), etc., etc. Don't by the hype from the liberal press.

The Dems are terrified of Romney because he takes away healthcare as an issue for the Dems, has the best grasp of the economy, has a model personal life, has unlimited funds to run against the well-funded Dem machine, has a strong stance on illegal immigration, will appoint conservative judges (McCain will look to compromise as he always does), and for all you ladies out there...Mitt Romney is the best looking. The choice should be clear to everyone conservative out Mitt Romney.

Posted by: pccu | January 28, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg's dissent, joined by Souter, Stevens, and Breyer, sure thought that the ruling was an "alarming" one that ignored Supreme Court abortion precedent -- the opinion did not specifically touch upon the question of whether the Court's prior decisions in Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood v. Casey were valid -- the dissent, in fact, characterized this aspect of the Court's opinion as follows: "Casey's principles, confirming the continuing vitality of 'the essential holding of Roe,' are merely 'assume[d]' for the moment . . . rather than 'retained' or 'reaffirmed.'"

Sounds like an approaching storm to me, at least.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Mitt is the Republican Bill Clinton. Hail McCain!!

Posted by: eedchic | January 28, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg's dissent, joined by Souter, Stevens, and Breyer, sure thought that the ruling was an "alarming" one that ignored Supreme Court abortion precedent -- the opinion did not specifically touch upon the question of whether the Court's prior decisions in Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood v. Casey were valid -- the dissent, in fact, characterized this aspect of the Court's opinion as follows: "Casey's principles, confirming the continuing vitality of 'the essential holding of Roe,' are merely 'assume[d]' for the moment . . . rather than 'retained' or 'reaffirmed.'"

Sounds like an approaching storm to me, at least.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Whoa - you got it backwards Pal. McCain attacked Romney. Now why would you take sides with McCain? Oh, I forgot, you're the 90% DemocRAT mainstream media.

Posted by: jloiacon | January 28, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse


Did you read the opinion, and concurrence, upholding the partial-birth abortion ban?

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

I'm surprized McCain would call Romney a flip flopper. Just look at all the legislation he has proposed recently. Romney is a far superior leader in terms of management, communication skills, intelligence, and ability to implement positive change. McCain is a great war hero, just not presidential material in my opinion.

Posted by: mcentire | January 28, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

McCain is a complete criminal liar.
He has a history of lying to the American people.

McCain says he is for tax cuts, but he voted against the Bush Tax Cut.
McCain lied. He is a liar.

McCain says he does not support illegal immigrants, but voted in favor of legislations that support amnesty plans.
McCain lied. He is a liar.

McCain flip flops within a 47 second time. The fastest and world-record holder.
He earned the gold medal for lying within a 47 second time.
He is the fastest liar.

McCain says, "He Has 'Never Asked For A Single Earmark Or Pork Barrel Project' For His State."
McCain lied about that also.

McCain lied about his infidelity that occurred in 1979.
He was still married and sleeping with another woman.
McCain lied about that also.

Do you want a President who is an aggressive and traditional liar?

McCain can not be trusted with foreign affairs.
He will lie.

McCain can not be trusted with the national economy.
He will lie.

We must not put a liar in the White House.
We must not let a liar become the President of the United States.

Posted by: parkeringsljus | January 28, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

The myth that pro life supreme court justices will overturn Roe and Griswold must end. Chief justice Roberts (a pro life poster card with 2 adopted children) believes there is a right to privacy in the constitution. Since Roe and Griswold affirm that right to privacy he would need a constitutional amendment to overturn them. He probably will never call a case that challenges his belief in privacy being part of the constitution. He is 51 years old and will hold that title for decades. I am happy he is serving even if my viewpoints are somewhat to his left. Honesty and integrity are found in few of Bush's appointees.

Posted by: jameschirico | January 28, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Here's the link for McCain saying he may draw the line at judges like Alito:

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

I used to think of McCain as an American Hero, but the more I see of him, the less I think of him.

In fact, I no longer think he deserves the title of American Hero. My late husband was a decorated Vietnam vet too and never thought that entitled him to be president.

Posted by: carolm62 | January 28, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Huckabee will hurt Romney like Edwards will hurt Obama on super Tuesday. McCain will get the boost of the moderates if Giuliani gets a fifth place in FL and withdraws. It could easily happen with his pro Bush policy stance.

Posted by: jameschirico | January 28, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

McCain has come unhinged. This is man is really scary. Now he says he will not appoint judges like Alito because he wore his conservatims on his sleeve.
Romney is better on the economy, on judges and on the truth.
Go Mitt

Posted by: wwinfield | January 28, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse


Obviously, if I didn't believe Romney had a true change of heart on abortion, etc., I wouldn't vote for him either.


You're welcome : )


Tim Russert did document that quote with McCain on "Meet the Press" but McCain tried to wiggle out of it by playing up his national security expertise, admitting he doesn't know economics as well as national security.


It is not about the hair -- it's about the proven executive experience to lead -- also, I think Rush has been trashing McCain (and Huckabee) lately.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

John McCain would, and will, make a great president. There is simply no other candidate out there with his combination of courage, experience, toughness, and strength of character. Unlike Mitt Romney, I can always count on John McCain as president to tell me what I need to hear, not what I want to hear. Mitt will say anything to anybody at any time as long as it means he can get their vote. Haven't we had enough of that?

I wouldn't trust Mitt Romney to wash my car. Even though I'm a registered Republican, if the choice came down to Romney or Obama, I'd vote for Obama. I may strongly disagree with Obama on most issues, but at least I know where he stands. How anyone could believe anything that comes out of Mitt Romney's lying mouth is beyond me.

Then there's the issue of electability. Nominating Mitt Romney would be a guarantee of an electoral disaster in November. The only guy the GOP has that can beat either Hillary or Obama in the Fall is John McCain.

Posted by: danram | January 28, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

JakeD -

Thanks for posting the actual conversation so that the truth can come out.

The MSM definitely doesn't seem to care about that these days.

Posted by: TrueConservative1 | January 28, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Let's not kid ourselves. McCain may be a war hero with kids in the military, and he may think for himself occasionally without needing Rush to explain his position to him. And he may even have a smart message that - while Bush has destroyed most chance of a Republican winning much of anything for awhile - will at least be pretty competitive in a general election.

But Romney has GREAT HAIR. Surely we can look at that as a surefire win. If McCain would make such a good leader, why doesn't he have better hair?

Posted by: grimmix | January 28, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

McCain hits back? He is the one who started throwing punches in the first place. He is the one who began lying about statements Romney has made. He is the one that then demanded an apology from Mitt for McCain's lie.

McCain's "straight talk" is nothing but a desparate attmempt to shift attention away from his own lies. In the last debate he flat out denied a statement he had made. He denied his statement of not understanding the economy. No one has been jumping up and down screaming fould because McCain is the media darling.

He should be showcased as the political opportunist bitter old man that he is.

Posted by: DCWill | January 28, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't select someone a project manager to be the CEO of my company.

I also wouldn't select a former squadron commander to be my Commander in Chief.

McCain doesn't have the credentials to tackle the tough issues that we face domestically, economically or militarily....

Posted by: TrueConservative1 | January 28, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

P.S. here's the full questions and answers (from Fact Checker):

ROBIN ROBERTS (ABC NEWS): Do you believe that there should be a timetable in withdrawing the troops?

ROMNEY: Well, there's no question - but that the President and - Prime Minister al-Maliki have to have a series of timetables and milestones that they speak about. But those shouldn't be for public pronouncement. You don't want the enemy to understand how long they have to wait in the weeds until you're gonna be gone. You wanna have a series of things you wanna see accomplished in terms of the strength of the Iraqi military and the Iraqi police and the leadership of the, of the Iraqi government.

ROBERTS: So, private? You wouldn't do it publicly because - the President has said flat out that he will veto anything the Congress passes about a timetable for - troop withdrawals. As president, would you do the same?

ROMNEY: Well, could you, yeah - well, of course. Could you, could you imagine the setting where, where during the second World War we said to the, the Germans, gee, if we haven't reached the Rhine by this date, we'll go home, or if we haven't gotten this accomplished, we'll, we'll pull up and leave? You don't, you don't publish that to your enemy, or they just simply lie and wait until that time. So, of course, you have to work together to create timetables [for withdrawal] and milestones, but you don't do that with the, with the opposition.

(Emphasis Added]

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

When you walk softly and carry a big stick no one messes with you. This simple lesson evades all Democratic candidates and most Republicans. Not that Iran is a threat, but Pakistan could blow up and there are humanitarian concerns in Africa as well as two war theaters that are undermannned.

Posted by: jameschirico | January 28, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

It is a very sad state of affairs in the party of Barry Goldwater, when these two clowns are the best the GOP has to offer.

Posted by: jackkrumm2 | January 28, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Kiss your job good bye if you want Mitt's brand of change or turn around.

Posted by: peterfromnh | January 28, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

McCain's comments are "lies?" So are Romney supporters denying that he was pro-choice, pro-gay rights, and in favor of a path to citizenship for illegal aliens while running for Senate and/or Governor in Mass.? It's hard to deny he's a flip-flopper after watching video highlights of his 94' debate with Ted Kennedy on YouTube. He makes Kerry look like a model of consistency.

Posted by: starmer15 | January 28, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse


Perhaps you missed the fact that the questions that Romney answered were specifically about WITHDRAWAL, albeit in secret? I am supporting Romney, but McCain is not "lying" about his stance.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

John McCain's comments about Mitt Romney are lies. He is doing anything to win. Here is Washington Posts findings: "McCain has distorted the meaning of a nine-month old quote from Romney. While Romney has mentioned "timetables and milestones" to be met by the Iraqi government--some secret, some public--he has never proposed setting "a date for withdrawal."

Posted by: bryantford | January 28, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

This reminds me of a very funny moment from SNL 4 years ago. A faux-Kerry was saying "I have been accused of saying one thing to one audience and another to a different audience. That is pandering, not flip-flopping, and you deserve a president who knows the difference."

Perhaps the Fact Checker can start awarding Pander Bears to candidates.


Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | January 28, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Does Mrs. McCain not need a hard-hat because she's got enough hairspray on?

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

I am an admirer of John McCain as an American Patriot and hero but I am less of an admirer of him as my president.

I do not want to be at war for 100's of years as the Senator keeps suggesting. And certainly not a war that is plain wrong to have started in the first place.

What Senator McCain has done to Mitt Romney is reminiscent of what the Bushies did to him. Now in no way am I a support of Willard Romney; however, I do not like it when a man is being lied on which is what Senator McCain is doing to Willard.

The talking heads are right about McCain. He is a straight talker until he starts to lose and then he becomes a mean rattle snake spitting venom on anyone that comes close to him

Posted by: SteelWheel1 | January 28, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Did anyone watch Morning Joe today? Admittedly that show probably isn't drawing many of us Repubs, but it was shocking. Apparently McCain is so deperate to change the conversation away from the people's concerns so he can gain politically that he promised more wars. Now, we're in a war on terror with many fronts, I get that, but this is political opportunism at its worst. He didn't talk about this referring to any specific threats, he just promised more wars. I want a tough president but I'd prefer to have someone whose foreign policy AVOIDS war - "peace through strength." The real story here is how the press is finally seeing McCain for what he is. He has never been this saint everyone is making him out to be. He's seeking personal gain, he's a lifetime politician and being president is some kind of entitlement. But he certainly hasn't earned it. Now that the cult of personality is being undermined, hopefully people will vote on the issues and steer away from John McCain.

Posted by: txindep | January 28, 2008 10:54 AM | Report abuse

There's no doubt that Romney was pro-choice and is now pro-life -- at least he flip-flopped in the RIGHT direction -- I still predict that Romney will get more delegates than McCain after Super Duper Tuesday.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse

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