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On Tenterhooks at Obama Rally

By Shailagh Murray
NASHUA, N.H. -- The mood at the Barack Obama rally was tense as the returns trickled in, showing Obama trailing slightly. Unlike in Des Moines on Iowa caucus night, there were no senior staffers mingling about, studying their BlackBerries, barely containing smiles.

By Web Politics Editor  |  January 8, 2008; 8:30 PM ET
 
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I think the voters are getting tired of the pollsters and media telling them who they're going to vote for. My friends in Iowa were telling me that a lot of people voted against the candidates the media was shoving down their throats, and New Hampshire voters may well have done the same thing.

Posted by: lartfromabove | January 8, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

And folks, the MSM did not make a mistake. They knew exactly what they were doing. They tried to discourage Clinton voters from bothering to vote. No one makes a 15% sampling error in these times. It just is not done!
Be very wary of what you read, hear, and see from now to November.
These NEOCON CORPORATE THUGS are not going to stop thier propaganda! On the contrary, things are really going to get ugly now!

Posted by: harried | January 8, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Clinton is pulling away, Obama has to make up +5000 votes now with about 45,000 remaining. Unless they call in Clarence Thomas as in past elections, this is a done deal!

Now how does it feel to have been bent over, by the Corporate MSM's hype.

Posted by: harried | January 8, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Well...sigh...we all knew it didn't we...that some "Jake" would start bringing up race cause one candidate is black. We KNEW it was coming.

Too bad, cause as a white voter who's left virtually with two choices and who has definite problems with Hillary's politics, I was holding my breath, hoping Jake would not appear for a good while with his side issues.

Gawd! And he's so into explaining and all...please people, it's not about who says what entering & exiting polls, (Jake's studied forte,) just stick with the politics! This primary and election shouldn't be about anything but the politics, yes?

P.S. Now let me look again to see if Obama really looks like Geo. Bush. That would be the real pits!

Posted by: leybrabear | January 8, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

From the NYTIMES

New Hampshire Democrats Vote %
Clinton 67,828 39%
Obama 62,736 36
Edwards 29,126 17
Richardson 8,212 5
Kucinich 2,478 1
Gravel 240 0
66% reporting
Full results » Republicans Vote %
McCain 52,142 37%
Romney 43,920 31
Huckabee 16,233 11
Giuliani 12,146 9
Paul 11,157 8
Thompson 1,696 1
63% reporting

Posted by: harried | January 8, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

THE WASHINGTON POST HAS STOPPED UPDATING THIER VOTE COUNT PAGE!
THE WASHINGTON POST HAS STOPPED UPDATING THIER VOTE COUNT PAGE!
THE WASHINGTON POST HAS STOPPED UPDATING THIER VOTE COUNT PAGE!
THE WASHINGTON POST HAS STOPPED UPDATING THIER VOTE COUNT PAGE!

Posted by: harried | January 8, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Right now with about 63% (166,000) s tallied, Clinton is ahead by about 3% (4,500). Obama would have to have to make up that 4,500 with about 45,000 left to go, he's got to get 60% of the remaining vote and he's only been getting 36%.

Posted by: harried | January 8, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

I'm beginning to think that neither of them can win a general election...

Those who like Hillary will be so pissed that she lost, that they'll stay home...

Those who like Obama and the new direction at least with regards to political discourse he would bring, will be disenchanted with his loss, and likely stay home, or vote for a third party candidate...or McCain if he holds on to be the nominee...

Either Barak or Hillary (especially Hillary) would so inflame the Republican base, that they'd come out in droves just for the chance to stop her...in part because she's a Clinton, and in part because she's a woman, and a Clinton, and in part because she's Hillary Clinton...

Posted by: squatty2 | January 8, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

It's still a close margin. Nothing for obama to be ashamed of. Barack Obama is a class act, not your run-of-the-mill politician. We are looking forward to AZ primary on Super-Duper Tuesday in February.
Keep up the positive campaigning all of you Obama supporters.

Posted by: joy2 | January 8, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Asking an honest question now is "racist" and "graceless"?! Where I come from the only stupid question is the one not asked.

Posted by: JakeD | January 8, 2008 08:44 PM
______________________________________

Get any stupid answers? Where you come from would they know?
By the way are you going back, or are you permanently from where your come from?

Posted by: harried | January 8, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Quite frankly, the MSM's harping about the Obama double digit lead has already made this a victory for Clinton, no matter who wins by a slight margin. When they hit the states where independents and teenagers can't vote the Starbuck Buckeroo hits the dirt, hard.
My man John Edwards made a serious ( maybe nonreversible ) tactical error in that debate when he did the BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN with Buckeroo!

Posted by: harried | January 8, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Edwards voted for the Iraq invasion too . . .

Posted by: JakeD | January 8, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Did you happen to view the national TV commercial granted to Hillary the day before the primary? Under the guise of Hillary shedding a tear, the national coverage was a wonderful opportunity for her to promote herself as thoughtful, warm, inspiring, etc.

One more example of the corporate media bending over backward to support Hillary's candidacy. I have been following the Republican right's complaints about the pro-Hillary corporate media bias.

Now I believe they are right. And the shameless effort to serve us a choice of Obama-Clinton in spite of the strong showing of Edwards and his electability profile vs-a-vs any of the projected RP candidates shows how badly the media (which cheerlead the Iraq invasion) has served us.

Posted by: jmlavelle | January 8, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

JakeD:

Yes, I think it would be less inflammatory than your original post. I did see the links, which is why I made the point about race being a factor (legitimate point) and tried to discredit those few fanatics who are screaming racism. Like I said, there will be a few, but that doesn't represent the vast majority of Obama supporters, in my opinion. Good luck to whoever it is you support. I'm going home to my life.

Posted by: mikekubo | January 8, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

No. Have you ever donated money to Revs. Sharpton or Jackson?

Posted by: JakeD | January 8, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

JakeD have you ever worn a white sheet with a hood?

Posted by: Wadsworth1 | January 8, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

mikekubo:

Fine, if I asked the question: "When will the fringe Obamaniacs start screaming 'RACISM!'?" that would have made you happy? Did you see the POSTS I linked to above?

Posted by: JakeD | January 8, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Nope, it was an honest question, now born out by the evidence I've linked to above (I note that the Obama blog has removed those posts already ; )

Posted by: JakeD | January 8, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: dalbychristopher | January 8, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

First, there's difference between recognizing that race plays a factor in elections (let's not be naive), it's another to "cry racism." Second, you will always have a few fringe supporters... heck, Hillary has Babs, but I digress. I am sure I could find similar rants from radical Hillary supporters if I went to her blog, except that it looks like you have to be a member of the club to view it. Typical.

Posted by: mikekubo | January 8, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

JakeD: That was not an Honest Question. That was an honest projection of your thoughts and misconceptions of others PHRASED in the Form Of A Question!

Posted by: LLeon7777 | January 8, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

jwbanks and zayd.khoury:

You were saying?

Posted by: JakeD | January 8, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

I like Jakes posts. It shows what Obama supporters are really like. Nothing like hearing it from their own mouths.

Im still looking for the earlier post that had the predictions of all the wapo editors and the percentages they all figured Obama would win NH by.

It disappeared awful fast.

Posted by: Ciap | January 8, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Bradley effect | Report to Admin Reply

By alex 4 minutes ago

May be it is Bradley effect.

Link

The term Bradley effect or Wilder effect refers to a phenomenon which has led to inaccurate voter opinion polls in some American political campaigns between a white candidate and a non-white candidate.[1][2][3] Specifically, there have been instances in which statistically significant numbers of white voters tell pollsters in advance of an election that they are either genuinely undecided, or likely to vote for the non-white candidate, but those voters exhibit a different behavior when actually casting their ballots. White voters who said that they were undecided break in statistically large numbers toward the white candidate, and many of the white voters who said that they were likely to vote for the black candidate ultimately cast their ballot for the white candidate. This reluctance to give accurate polling answers has sometimes extended to post-election exit polls as well.

Researchers who have studied the issue theorize that some white voters give inaccurate responses to polling questions because of a fear that they might appear to others to be racially prejudiced. Some research has suggested that the race of the pollster conducting the interview may factor into that concern. At least one prominent researcher has suggested that with regard to pre-election polls, the discrepancy can be traced in part by the polls' failure to account for general conservative political leanings among late-deciding voters.

Posted by: JakeD | January 8, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

(cont.)

Who lives in Hooksett!!?? | Report to Admin Reply

By Ryan 6 minutes ago
Who the heck are these people in Hooksett!!! That's the most ridiculous voting result I have ever seen... research their background

Posted by: JakeD | January 8, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

I am not a Hillary supporter AND my question was not rhetorical -- more from the Obama blog:

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post_group/ObamaHQ/CGHz

By Laura Hubka 1 minute ago
maybe heavy racist county?

Re: Hooksett!!!!!!!!! | Report to Admin Reply

By Dan from Texas 19 seconds ago
So racists like Kucinich?

Posted by: JakeD | January 8, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

I hope Obama doesn't turn into a union tool if he loses tonight. As long as Edwards stays around for Super Tuesday to absorb the true communists he should be alright. One of his greatest strengths is his fairly market oriented economics. I imagine Clinton will start attacking him on that. I hope he can maintain some sense of economic logic. It's so nice to see a little free market love in the Democratic party.

Posted by: fallsmeadjc | January 8, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Folks,

I live in Beijing and this is what it is about. Democracy in action. I do not care if you are white,purple, blue pink or black.

Set an example for the rest of us.

Jer

Posted by: scms.china | January 8, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Love the response wallygva! Seriously, Jake, get a life. Are we to imply from your comments that you are a Hillary supporter?

Posted by: mikekubo | January 8, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

You know the chimp comment could be taken the wrong way. But I have been wondering if I am the only one who thinks Obama looks like George Bush.

By the way. NH says "Not so Fast!" Entire MSM has egg on face.

Posted by: slbk | January 8, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Jake...Saw your "start to cry racism" comment on two other comment forums. Get a life, dude.

Posted by: wallygva | January 8, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Asking an honest question now is "racist" and "graceless"?! Where I come from the only stupid question is the one not asked.

Jake,
Were you gathering facts with that question or was it rhetorical?

Posted by: louis.chatman | January 8, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Sampling from the Obama blog so far:

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post_group/ObamaHQ/CGHz#comments

By MIKE JONES 16 minutes ago
it is because the results are coming from rural areas

rural area loves Hilary

By ROME 8 minutes ago
The rural areas have more racists. It's only the first inning guys. Don't give up yet!

Posted by: JakeD | January 8, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Looks like the Obama wave may have just hit a supertanker!!

Posted by: Ciap | January 8, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

HRC will bring in Carville to suggest: Am I the only one that thinks that other guy looks like a chimp?

Posted by: rahaha | January 8, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Still a little early in the night, but it looks like Sen Clinton,Gov Romney, and now Sen Obama are having to learn that there is no such thing as an inevitable victory. Perhaps now we can get back following the campaigns and issues as opposed to "momentum".

Am prepared to eat these words if results swing Obama's way later tonight - still only 16% of precincts reporting.

Posted by: avagabond | January 8, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Asking an honest question now is "racist" and "graceless"?! Where I come from the only stupid question is the one not asked.

Posted by: JakeD | January 8, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Probably not at all, Jake. Thanks for making misinformed comments. Just a heads up, Iowa is predominantly white, and he overwhelmingly took that state. If Obama loses, it will be fair and square, and so-called Obamaniacs will accept the outcome gracefully...something you should try.

Posted by: zayd.khoury | January 8, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Hmmmm, that seems a fairly racist comment.

Posted by: jwbanks | January 8, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

When will the Obamaniacs start screaming "RACISM!"?

Posted by: JakeD | January 8, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

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