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Paul Has 'No Intention' of Making Third-Party Bid

Ron Paul at Saint Anselm College. (Getty Images).

By Jose Antonio Vargas
MANCHESTER, N.H. -- Rep. Ron Paul has no plans to run on a third-party ticket, he told The Trail tonight, minutes before boarding a private jet to Los Angeles.

And, it turns out, being excluded from the evening's Republican forum on Fox News landed the Texas congressman a second invitation on "The Tonight Show with Jay Leno." He'll be the lead guest on Monday's show, he said.

"It's annoying not [being] able to participate in the debate," said Paul, adding that Fox News reporters and commentators "are warmongerers who don't want to hear other opinions."

"But it worked well for us," he continued.

Paul has been one of this campaign's biggest surprises. Rudy Giuliani, Fred Thompson and Mike Huckabee have seen their popularity fluctuate, but Paul has continued to climb in polls (he's at 10 percent in the latest CNN/WMUR New Hampshire poll, well ahead of Thompson) and raise significant sums of money. He expects to improve on his fifth-place finish in Iowa, where he beat Giuliani, and said he believes he can stay competitive on Super Tuesday, when California and New York, where Paul has strong online followings, go to the polls.

Throughout the year, the 72-year-old obstetrician-turned-congressman has been the most popular Republican candidate online. About 85 percent of the $28 million he raised last year came through the internet, his campaign said.

The money has allowed him to greatly expand his field staff. He had 10 full-time staffers in Iowa and has nine here in New Hampshire. Jesse Benton, his spokesman, said the campaign has aired 10 radio ads. In addition, it has run six TV commercials in the Granite State, spending about $1.5 million. Looking ahead, the campaign has three offices and nine full-time staffers in South Carolina and recently hired its third staffer in California.

For weeks rumors have swirled that Paul, who trails his opponents in national and state polls, will eventually run as an independent or libertarian candidate.

"I have no intention of doing that," Paul told The Trail.

Asked how he'd respond if his supporters clamored for him to mount a run outside the GOP, Paul responded: "We'll see if the supporters keep sending the money. But right now, our focus is on February 5th."

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The arrogance of FOX News has encouraged me to take a much closer look at Ron Paul and, quite frankly, I like what I see.

Posted by: plcc0 | January 8, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Straight from Ron Paul:

January 8, 2008 5:28 am EST

ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA - In response to an article published by The New Republic, Ron Paul issued the following statement:

"The quotations in The New Republic article are not mine and do not represent what I believe or have ever believed. I have never uttered such words and denounce such small-minded thoughts.

"In fact, I have always agreed with Martin Luther King, Jr. that we should only be concerned with the content of a person's character, not the color of their skin. As I stated on the floor of the U.S. House on April 20, 1999: 'I rise in great respect for the courage and high ideals of Rosa Parks who stood steadfastly for the rights of individuals against unjust laws and oppressive governmental policies.'

"This story is old news and has been rehashed for over a decade. It's once again being resurrected for obvious political reasons on the day of the New Hampshire primary.

"When I was out of Congress and practicing medicine full-time, a newsletter was published under my name that I did not edit. Several writers contributed to the product. For over a decade, I have publically taken moral responsibility for not paying closer attention to what went out under my name."

Posted by: ruizstudios | January 8, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

I just cracked myself up thinking about an Obama/Paul presidency. that would be funny. Like the Odd Couple, except even more hilarious. Like Siamese twins trying to run away from each other.

Posted by: ShaeSinister | January 8, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

There appears to be a few individuals, who have left comments in this section, that are misinformed or misread. Lets set the record straight. Ron Paul has repeatedly stated that he is a strict Constitutionalist. He HAS NEVER said that he wished to weaken the Federal Government back to the point where we would be using the Articles of Confederation. He is simply stating that we should HAVE the federal government the constitution created.
It is the defacto Federal Government caused by the bankruptcy, essentially put in place in 1933, that has grown into the power monster we presently have. We need the sovereign de jure government reinstated - which HAS LIMITED power. The constitution never called for, or allowed wars to be created by Executive Order. Only Congress can declare a war by our Constitution. The last war DECLARED by Congress was WWII. Ron Paul seems to want to put us back on the track our founding fathers put us on. Not a strong Federal Government, but a government by the people, for the people, with inalienable rights for all. The man should be applauded and anyone who desires maximum liberty should vote for him. I will for sure!

Posted by: tonikirchner | January 8, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul is 72 years old! Ron Paul doesn't want to govern, he hates government. Why are we talking about him? There are 300 million +- people in the United States. We don't need less government; we need government that works. We need a President who respects what government can do when it works well, and who knows why government is necessary in a civilized, modern society. We also need a young man, not an old man. We are not a collection of loose tribes; we are an enormously complex nation. For heaven's sake, we need a leader who wants to govern. I'm voting for a young man. My first vote was for JFK, perhaps my last vote will be for Obama. Suits me just fine!

Posted by: miilu | January 8, 2008 3:40 AM | Report abuse

Early combined REAL vote totals from Dixville Notch and Hart's Location in NH are in.
Ron Paul is third among Republicans and is beating Romney and Giuliani!
Total combined final votes from both places in NH are:
McCain - 10
Huckabee - 5
Paul -4
Romney -3
Giuliani -1

Posted by: RamseySt | January 8, 2008 2:01 AM | Report abuse

I consider it an endorsement that Ron Paul has been excluded from Faux News primary debate - he handled the situation expertly and with class: His own town hall meeting on public access TV, viewable on You Tube.
Thank God for the Internet.

Every other candidate is a CFR member and shill for the neocon swindlers. Google them yourself: Their founder's mentor is Leon Trotsky!. They are dyed in the wool Communists. The other candidates are bought and paid for by international bankers who've made sure for decades that only a total crook can get into the Whitehouse - with the media as their kingmaker.

Don't be "neoconned": whatever side the media is on, it well behooves every one of us to be on the OTHER side.

Posted by: alpanp | January 7, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Fox had no choice but to lose... something I'm sure they're not used to! If they included Paul, his message, even just a small fragment, is so powerful that it tends to motivate all but the most close-minded. But they probably had no idea they were going to lose THIS big...

Posted by: wisforrp | January 7, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

I love the Constitution of the United States and I thank God Almighty that there is a Statesman like Ron Paul who really loves this country and all it's people.
He has defended everyone of us with every vote.
He sees the future and can only warn us if he is not elected.
Without Dr. Paul at the helm, there will be the real ID (the mark!}, One World Government under the UN, the distruction of the Constitution and America.
There is no one more capible and experienced, no one, that can take the reigns and move out of the TV mentality that has made us afraid of our own shadows.
No one else running for the office of President has the honesty, integrity, honor and courage to stand fast against the "machine".
Ron Paul has been an open book all his life, always true to the Constitution, the Man everyone wishes was in the White House.
The only thing that grips me is the Idea the He's Just too Good to be True
He's Dangerous to the Powers that be.
He needs our PRAYERS.

Posted by: | January 7, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the good article on Ron Paul and thanks to Jay Leno too for inviting Ron again to his show. I'll be watching!
By the way...Fox New's "you decide 08" should be changed to "we decide for you 08". They have no class to exclude Ron Paul from their debate. He even won their televised debate according to their own poll a few weeks ago. Fox News is prejudiced.
Some opponents are worried about Paul's climb in polls.

Posted by: jeffzeppelin | January 7, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Freedom. liberty. peace. RON PAUL 2008.

Posted by: mickrussom | January 7, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul's campaign really only started with the massive fund raising campaign on November 5th. In less than 2 months he has gained more momentum than all the other candidates combined over the past year! Wake up people and listen to the sound of the freedom!

- Abolish the IRS
- Bring ALL our troops back home
- Reduce government spending


Posted by: faiselsyed | January 7, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

gordoncaie: [citation needed]
The above reference to Ron Paul's Racist diatribe is only one of many pieces of evidence of his overt white supremacy. He has kept a sizable campaign donation from the man who runs the largest white-supremacist website on the internet.
Libertarianism is nothing but misguided and naive idealism. To all you people who think that humans will do what's best for themselves when left to their own devices: you couldn't be further from the truth. I think that all libertarians should move to Alaska, or Antarctica or some place where they can only harm themselves. Unfortunately, antiquated arguments about a method of government as obsolete as the C&O canal fall into the same category: Avoidance of Reality.

Posted by: rahaha | January 7, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Too bad the media already has its favorites and promotes only the ones they want to impose on us. I wish Ron Paul had more coverage to be able to show to the masses what he is all about. In a simple word he is all about Freedom.

Posted by: dacortesi | January 7, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Bravo extrabigg: Ron Paul as president is the only way we can hold our heads up high and be proud again both of him and for our c ountry. Americans, rise up and fight for him. Our military should rise up and speak for him as well. YOu took the oath to protect us and the constitution. Help us as well to protect you and see to it that you will never have to go to war or die for senseless causes again.

Posted by: Chance1 | January 7, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Dissecting Ron Paul's 14% in New Hampshire


Premium members of Rasmussen Reports have access to the crosstabbed information from any poll and when Ron Paul gets 14% in this poll, we just had to see where most of his success was coming from.

* Men - 16%
* Women - 10%


* 18-29 - 29%
* 30-39 - 14%
* 40-49 - 12%
* 50-64 - 15%
* 65+ - 3%


* Republican: 10%
* Other: 22%


* Conservative: 11%
* Moderate: 13%
* Liberal: 29%
* Unsure: 83%


* Yes - 12%
* No - 21%

Children at Home

* Yes - 16%
* No - 12%

Okay so the reason this is all relevant is because the demographics that Ron Paul is doing well with are the exact same demographics that tend to be underrepresented in the polls. Voter turnout could catapult Ron Paul into the 20-percent range, we are just not sure yet.

Ron Paul also seems to be cutting into the same demographic that John McCain is successful with. So if the Independent and younger voters go to Ron Paul, are they doing it at the expense of John McCain. That could cost McCain the Primary as he is in a hotly contested fight with Romney for first place.

Ron Paul still has a long way to go before before challenging for first place as his net favorability rating is at just 42% versus McCain (71%) and Romney (64%).

Here are the highlights:

1. Ron Paul is first in New Hampshire among the under 30 crowd (tied with McCain).
2. Ron Paul is is second among voters identifying themselves as "Not Republican", McCain was at 37%.

In conclusion, Ron Paul is strong in the categories that McCain is expected to be strong in as well, whether it impacts McCain's race with Romney is yet to be seen but if turnout is strong and in Ron Paul's favor this could become a three way race.

Posted by: harvardsquares | January 7, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Goldie 2:
Frankly, I don't understand how you can say that Ron Paul wants to take the US back to the days of the Articles of the Confederation. He wants to take us back to the CONSTITUTION, which has been shredded by the greedy, lying pigs we've sent to congress. He's not for any weaker of a government than we had under the constitution as enacted.

I hope you're right and he DOES win the nomination. Regardless, I am writing him in on the ballot in November if he's not on it.

I cannot believe that espousing a belief in personal freedom and limited government is somehow not the norm. No one I EVER talk to says "Hey, I love the IRS" - or "Hey, I wish the Department of Homeland Defense could have a camera in my bedroom."

I don't see how you can say you like Ron Paul but are voting for Barack. Their platforms could not be any different. Obama is a big government socialist who will futher drain the resources of this country by limiting our energy options and spending at even higher levels than before.

It's Ron Paul or noone. If I cannot vote for Ron Paul in November, I will write him in. Period.

Posted by: tax_acct | January 7, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

FOX news is so hypocritical to criticize Clinton and others who dont want to interview with them at their whim, beck and call...but turn around and deny Ron Paul to debate on FOX with the FOUR Republican candidates FOX deems electable on the Republican side. This is so pitifully obvious that FOX as well as other major media want to control the agenda and the political leaders by access. This is a horrendous example of why recent FCC rule changes allowing MORE centralizing of media ownership should be questioned and reversed immediately. We dont need FOX ownership telling us who is and who is not deemed worthy or running for any office in our country. They need to report the damn news for once without slanting it their views.

Posted by: toknowme3 | January 7, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

The racial article that was written on Pauls behalf was from a rogue staffer and he was fired.
Dr. Paul would not divulge his name to the LA times but they later said after further analysis, "Paul has never displayed these type of feelings before and does not sound like his normal text. We have decided to withdraw this story and accept Dr. Pauls reasoning for keeping his staffers name out of the public sphere".

Paul said these were not his views and explained what happened.

Is this all you have?
Something from 15 years ago?

Shame on you!

Posted by: gordoncaie | January 7, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Thankfully, this will be the swan song for this racist and his brownshirted supporters.

He better hopes he saves some of that 20m for his congressional seat. He may just need it.

Posted by: info | January 7, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Paul's only supporters are online. You all look like fools.
Here's why I refuse to support Rep. Paul:
"We are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, but it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings, and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers."
~Ron Paul Political Report 1992.

Posted by: rahaha | January 7, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

I live in Dr. Pauls district and I have watched him for many years.
People do not know he has won three times as a non-incumbent.
Tom Delay split his district and Ron STILL won with even a greater percentage then the election before!
Neoconservatives have wanted to take our district for 20 years!
Ron beats them every time!
He has won 10 consecutive times.
3 were non-incumbent elections.
Who does this?
With no corporate backing in this HUGE OIL district?
They(NEOs) even enticed a Democrat (Laughlin) to switch parties and join them in trying to defeat Ron by promising him he would run unopposed. What an EMBARRASSMENT for them!
The only problem was, Ron NEVER agreed to this and the neoconservatives ended up spending a million dollars (alot for a house campaign) to unseat him and AGAIN FAILED with a larger percentage of the vote from the prior election!

They ignore him!
They do not report on him.

He drives hours with his grand daughters to be at a vets side when he receives a metal.

He has delivered hundreds of babies for free to minorities that could not pay.
(at one point he and his partner were the only OBGYNs in our district for years!
NO ONE was EVER turned away!

He has secured private loans for hurricane relief, citing we will NEVER rely on the FED like Katrinas did.
He is so smart.

He is often underestimated.
He is like the nerd in the back of the classroom that has an Einstein mind with a spotless, clean record who is only in his job to do the work of the people.
He is not bought and paid for..
The lobbyists walk past his office in congress with a wave and a smile.
Nothing happening here, they say!

97% of his campaign donations here come from individuals. The next closest is Sheila Jackson-Lee of D-Houston who gets 67% from individuals.
He wont even ask for a donation!
He makes no phone calls, NOTHING.
Once a year a little mailer comes with the bills he has written, the state of our district and his wifes famous recipes!
Nothing about a contibution!
In the back of the mailer there is a little envelope with a disclaimer and a stamp.
Thats it!
It is so cute.
He wont EVEN ask!

He made BP build and fund a burn center after several mishaps and their employees not having proper treatment.

He has secured private loans for our new bridge to the Island so the fed would have no say in HOW, WHEN,WHERE,WHY it should be built.
The bridge finished on time, on budget and was done by local contractors who will stand by their work and we got a HELL OF A DEAL!

You will notice the media ignore him!
This is normal for him.
They do this every time, yet he still wins.
The make mistake after mistake.
They have not allowed the other candidates to attack him BECAUSE HE DOESNT exist!
He knows they will absorb 20 times more MSM punches then he will.
Watch how he lies below the radr aloowing them to rule each other out while ignoring Ron!
Then when its time he will pounce.
He will use their own corrupt platforms and vile, vulagar disregard for the Constitution against them.
He will make it so they can not say a word to him.
He does this every time!
Its quite amusing to watch.
Especially here in our district.
The people ACTUALLY win here!

He knows the vast majority will consider him the underdog!
He knows this is what built America.
The fringe built America.
The fringe must be protected.
This is why America is different.
The minorities are given a bigger soap box than the general public.
He will NEVER silence the KKK or Stormfront.
He would never go against Code Pink or the Black Panthers or LULAC.
He feels the ACLU holds the views/best interest of the public.
So does ELF and PETA!
He views ALL of these groups are the same in the eyes of the law. Exactly the way a Federal official should view these groups.
It is not their place to silence ANY ONE!
Our Constitution grants them rights to be HEARD, NOT SILENCED!
Whether we agree or not.
If one of them breaks the law or encroaches on anothers liberties then Ron has a jail cell for them.
NEVER must we silence the KKK or the Black Panthers.
Ron feels these groups are the only true check on our corrupt government.
He seems to feel that these groups would unite and join together if a foreign invader were to come to American shores.
Maybe armies like...lets say Blackwater, for instance!
I agree!
I am not a racist and neither is Ron. Libertarians cant even be racist, because most refuse to even acknowledge a group one belongs to.
They choose to look at people as humans and not Black Humans or Female humans..
Rather individuals.

Ron will win!
He always does.
Tom Delay and Karl Rove refer to Ron as a Democrat.
They are wrong.
He is a Constitutionalist with Libertarian leanings.
He is a strict fiscal Republican with liberal social values based on individual liberties.
He would NEVER go against the people.
He views this as his only true power.
He knows we give him his power and we can take it away.

Posted by: gordoncaie | January 7, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Dr. Ron Paul is a very intersting Dude, no doubt.
However, consider the last Debate.
Picture everyone BUT McClown, in Mitt and Mike's Cabinet. As the questions were debated, Dr. NO's input was valuable insight, BUT there were numerous issues he is just not as competant to handle. The Fidgitting, and shyness, were NOT Statesman-like qualities!

All the candidates are qualified, but McCain is too tied to his fellow Congressmen! He is a Hatchet-Man for his Partners in Crime trying to do away with the separation of Powers!

Posted by: rat-the | January 7, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

It is clear that the Republican's are scared to death of Ron Paul. He would quickly put a stop to big business running this country. The USA would be returned to the people. NOTHING could be worse than Obama becoming President so the Republicans might give that some thought. John McCain would be a terrible choice for President. Take a trip to Mexico and see what the USA will be like if either McCain or Obama is elected President.

Posted by: Atlas1182 | January 7, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: ronholland | January 7, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

I've been a Democrat my whole life, but I'm voting for Ron Paul. He is the only alternative to what we have been given over the past thirty years. We need a radical overhaul of our foriegn and monetary policies, and while he is not the perfect candidate in my estimation, he is far and away the best thing we are offered at a time when our liberties have stripped from us, our government has become a criminal conspiracy, and our nation is slipping farther and farther into corporatism and fascism. Bring our troops home and end "free trade"!

Posted by: dlikar | January 7, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Great article. Ron Paul has a LOT of support out here in California -- far more than I've seen for any other candidate. It's ludicrous when people call him a long shot -- he is raising more money, and has more actual supporters than any other candidate.

This isn't Iowa. Republican voters here want the war to end, and they would never go for someone like Huckabee who is soft on illegal immigration.

A minor correction to a great article: There haven't been any "rumors" that Ron Paul would pursue a third party bid, it's been pure speculation by media types who don't understand that Ron Paul has a very real chance to win the Republican nomination. Since the question has been asked dozens of times and he's always said he has no plans to run third party, it's not really a scoop either.

Posted by: drd6000 | January 7, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul has my vote --- and I refuse to allow any "poller" to tell me who I will vote. And I love those who say "he won't get the nomination"
You're the same people who said, he won't poll 10% in Iowa, he won't raise millions of dollars, he won't do well in N.H., he won't poll above 5% nationally, he won't he won't he won't
Maybe we should be asking you! who else YOU plan to vote on --- because I Am Resolved... Ron Paul is my President, write it, third party, GOP, I don't care. There is no second choice.
And no, I'm not a nut, it's called patriotism, dedication, political activism, ideals that USED to be praised in America.

Posted by: hockeybum51 | January 7, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

I'll tell you what. I'm a Ron Paul believer. As soon as I get paid this Friday I'm sending him another campaign contribution.


Posted by: daestradapalma | January 7, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Ron Paul has my vote! I'm 55 years old have voted Repulican all my life. Let's give Liberty a try.

Posted by: Arley46 | January 7, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Ron Paul is amazing. He explains his positions expertly and I have not seen diehard fans like his since Howard Dean. Yeah it's a steady rise in money and confidence that he's viable, but why shouldn't he be viable? He made a clearer position against the war than all the Democrats, you can tell he's up on his Chomsky and he discusses it practically. Of course he would not defend Reagan as much if he really was up on his Chomsky, but still ... My vote's for Obama if he wins primary, but it is only fair justice that Ron Paul throw an independent bid. Fox "News" will not let him debate because they are bought and paid for. They are not a news organization and don't deserved to be called one. There are no moderate republicans left (cept maybe John McCain ver.2000, Arlen Specter and maybe one other guy). And it is becoming increasingly obvious the GOP voters are not happy with their candidates. There is surfacing a genuine split in the republican party, and failure to recognize it and adapt to it will be very embarassing in future elections. Not that I care, but fair to warn.

Posted by: grimmix | January 7, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

goldie2, you said: "A weak federal government is what Paul advocates."..."The states decided they needed a federal government with some teeth so we ended up with our Constitution."
You should really do some reading first. It is a SMALLER federal government that he wants & a little control back in our hands. The constitution is what he uses as a guide, he has said that almost every time he speaks. The way that our current federal government is running itself now is, at times, non-constitutional. The constitution gives the citizens ownership of the government; do you feel like we have any control over the government right now? Departments like the IRS are non-constitutional. The constitution gave certain guide lines for the federal government to operate under so that it didn't become too big. We have not followed many of those guide lines in a long time. What Ron Paul advocates is what every American wants.. freedom, true freedom. Not an overtaxed, overworked society that spends all of its hard earned money trying to save the world & feed the lazy while our own backyard is becoming poorer & weaker by the second. The other candidates talk about wanting change, but the words that they spew out of their mouths is the same propaganda we have heard for years. Most of what they have to say is not in line with the constitutional guide lines. So, if you're a supporter of the constitution, it sounds like Ron Paul is your man, you just need to read up on him a little bit more so you will understand that too.

Posted by: jml_newman | January 7, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Wow, people are talking about such important things. Here's what I know. 1 doz Jumbo eggs cost $2.65 now, they cost .78 when Bush took office. Gas was $1.25 now it's $3.00. I can't afford to help foreigners any more. The whole thing about keeping us safe is laughable. We're groaning under the weight of nuclear arms and other WMDs but we can't build nuclear plants and refineries due to excessive regulation. Nobody mentions thse things except Dr. Paul.

Posted by: lnardozi | January 7, 2008 9:34 AM | Report abuse

We have endured 8 years of Sleaze, Scandal, and Corruption under Bill and Hillery followed by 8 years of Arrogance, Corruption, Criminal Incompetence and Gross Stupidly under Bush Jr.. and Chicken Hawk Chaney. Either party cares about our Constitution and the rule of Law, Their priorities are self first, the party second, special interests third, American Citizens and the Future of this Nation is not even on their list until election time then they pull out their spin, lies and attack ads again to get elected, after which they go back to their priorities.

It is increasingly looking like this Nation cannot survive more years of the same type of Corrupt, Lying, Self serving, Worthless Politicians that support and allow the largest invasion of a Nation in world history. While ignoring Article IV Section IV of our Constitution against invasion, and our Immigration laws. They have refused to aide by our Constitution, refused to enforce the very laws they passed and dishonored their oath of office!

Now both parties seen to have the nearly the same type candidates seeking our vote. From the polls it seems we have learned very little in the least 16 years and seem to prefer Sleaze, Corruption and Lies over Honor, Principles, our Constitution, and the Rule of law or Ron Paul would win the election by a wide margin.

Posted by: american1 | January 7, 2008 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Add me to the list of Ron Paul supporters who will write him in if he doesn't win the GOP nomination. If the GOP loses the general election because of people like me splitting the vote to support Ron Paul, they'll be gettign their just desserts for abandoning Republican principles.

Posted by: foreoki12 | January 7, 2008 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Why would he consider a 3rd party run?

He's going to win the nomination.

Posted by: lcb | January 7, 2008 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Frank Luntz is right when he thinks Americans are dumb. Any of us who allow others to manipulate us, to think for us, to act for us are guilty of being dumb. How many people still believe Iraq had something to do with 9/11 just because Bush said it once? Don't make it easy on Frank. Wise up, everyone. I trust the people commenting here can and will do that. Help to educate your friends and relatives because America needs to learn from her mistakes. That means We the People.

Posted by: bones13 | January 7, 2008 9:05 AM | Report abuse

If Paul does not win and won't run third-party, I will go back to the Constitution Party and vote for their candidate (which could very well be Ron Paul). If we don't get a POTUS in office who obeys the constitution, we're sunk.

Posted by: dave21 | January 7, 2008 9:01 AM | Report abuse

enkidu1 asked who is the second choice? It won't be any of the other Reps or Dems, I can tell you that much. A litmus test for every single American when they vote should be "am I willing to take full responsibility for everything the president does?" That is what you need to ask yourself because if you voted for George W Bush YOU are responsible for the War in Iraq, not finding bin Laden, No Child Left Behind, etc. When we elect someone We the People are responsible for those we voted for because we placed them in their positions of power. I am willing to take responsibility for Ron Paul as president because his record shows how he will act. The other candidates have already shown their true colors as being harmful to this country. Even Obama who is against the war is in favor of socialized medicine which will bankrupt this country so I cannot support him because I will not be held responsible for the bankrupting of America. If he shows a more logical plan that uses the free market he MIGHT be able to win me over, but I'll have to examine him closer if Ron Paul is not nominated.

But, again, YOU MUST TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for the actions of those you empower. You must vote for someone who has America's Constitution as their guide ON EVERY ISSUE!

Posted by: bones13 | January 7, 2008 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Frank Luntz and his INFOMERCIAL... HAHAHA what a Joke!

You will notices that this guy Frank Luntz working for Fox news is putting what is clearly starting to look and feel as an ""Infomercial". I guess this guy really thinks that ALL American people are dumb. How much lower Fox TV will go by continuing allowing such thing?

Watch this web site, read a go to the exact video locations as indicated.

Posted by: politiciannc | January 7, 2008 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Hillary Dont let this enemy of our great country to continue to talk the talk with nothing we stand for is really what is in this future plans. Expose him! Americans voted for the past 8 years to a potential Nazi and now this bag of wind will try to make America a Moslin dictated country. I am a Democrate and have always voted for the Dems since FDR days. I just hope I will be able to do the same this time. Should BO (and he stinks) get the D nomination, I will choose Ron Paul.

Posted by: LOONYBIN2000 | January 7, 2008 8:40 AM | Report abuse


Ron Paul WILL run as a 3rd party candidate if he doesn't win the nomination. Even if he doesn't, I will write his name in. There is no alternative from either party that can save America from herself except Ron Paul.

Fed Up

Posted by: cfplanners | January 7, 2008 8:38 AM | Report abuse

Ron Paul appears to be the ultimate Rorschach test. He is whatever you decide he is: pro-life, pro-freedom, anti-war, anti-tax, pro-constitution, pro-prostitution. Since it looks like he won't win any states' primaries, I wonder who the Paulsheviks will make their 2nd choice. I saw one person cited Romney. Has anyone else thought about who they'll vote for beyond the point it becomes obvious Paul will never live in the White House?

Posted by: enkidu1 | January 7, 2008 8:23 AM | Report abuse

I'm no Ron Paul nut, but he should have been at the FOX debate last night. How could Fred Thompson, who's polling 1% in NH, get in and Paul, with loads of cash and 10%, be left out?

Posted by: parkerfl | January 7, 2008 8:12 AM | Report abuse

"Paul Has "No Intention" of Making Third-Party Bid"



Posted by: cfplanners | January 7, 2008 8:01 AM | Report abuse

If folks want to actualize Dr. Ron Paul's views on war, they might consider supporting in the near term one of the Democratic candidates striving to end the war on Iraq and bring ALL of our troops home -- Obama, Edwards or Richardson.

Posted by: FirstMouse | January 7, 2008 7:28 AM | Report abuse

"A weak federal government is what Paul advocates. That was tried in the Articles of Confederation and it didn't work. The states decided they needed a federal government with some teeth so we ended up with our Constitution."

It is an amazing contradiction of logic to claim Dr. Paul advocates a weak government when he says we should "obey the Constitution". Which is to say the Constitution we have now, not the previous one it replaced.

Such a confused and factually misleading argument appears to be one of the many unsavory consequences of allowing a massive government to administer the education system.

Washington said: "Government is like fire -- a useful servant but a terrible master." Unfortunately, most modern Americans cannot tell the difference.

Posted by: Tancred1 | January 7, 2008 7:24 AM | Report abuse

I was appalled at the rude way Ron Paul was treated during the debate. McCain and Thompson showed him so much disrespect. I now have even less respect for them.

As for Fox News, it has become propoganda not news. It is the very LAST place I would go to find out what is happening.

Posted by: shemp | January 7, 2008 6:54 AM | Report abuse
Evidently, Frank Luntz takes his audience with him wherever he goes.
Another example of Fox News phoniness.

Posted by: grunk | January 7, 2008 6:00 AM | Report abuse

To the author, thank you for this very lovely article!

I am not from the USA however I am interested in international affairs. My perception is that Dr. Ron Paul is an astounding ambassador for the USA and his message, approach and apparent integrity provides not only Americans but also viewers like myself in another country "hope" for a better world to live in. What ever happens in America affects the rest of the world, so I encourage all voters to be wise and inform themselves well prior to voting for their President.

Posted by: lindy | January 7, 2008 5:11 AM | Report abuse

Ron Paul is my #1 choice.

No more income tax / no more IRS. Defend the USA and mind our business.

Mitt Romney is my #2 choice.

Perhaps we'll see a Romney / Paul campaign

Posted by: flint | January 7, 2008 4:19 AM | Report abuse

I just watched the NH town meeting on YouTube linked from RonPaul2008. Just as truthful and smart as all of his speaking! The FoxNews thing blew up right in their faces....hahaha. Oh well, thats what they get for messing around. I am going to still boycott FoxNews and their endorsers. I think it might be a lifelong boycott. We'll see...maybe if they learn to behave...hmmm...just maybe. Jay Leno here we come, AGAIN!

Ron Paul 2008!

Posted by: Inshame | January 7, 2008 2:54 AM | Report abuse

Well Put xtrabiggg

You are right, Ron Paul is the MOST Presedential looking, acting, walking talking, voting and otherwise conducting his ACTIONS than any other person in the race. That seems to be the real issue here, we all need to implore the world that ACTIONS speak louder than words. Watch the NEO-conservative ACTIONS. Do they look like the actions of good christians like they say they are, killing hundreds of thosands of people with this "war"? I know a good way to not adjitate our n eighbors, how about we listen to ron paul and follow the constitution? How about we not be in their back yards and give them a reason, and a target to shoot at? I mean come on, if they were here we'd be picken em off like "Ducks in a barrel". Unless of course they get here after the Neo Cons and the Democrats align up to steel our 2nd amendment right to bear arms of course. Then we'll be helpless if terrorist, or anyone come to harm us. The choice isn't hard people, vote for your liberty! Vote RON PAUL!

Posted by: jaredsmortgages | January 7, 2008 2:31 AM | Report abuse

This blog needs to have previous and next links on each post like The Fix. Trying to read posts sequentially and catch up here is a real pain.

Posted by: jon.morgan.1999 | January 7, 2008 2:07 AM | Report abuse

Didn't Mr. Murdock of Faux News get run out of the country of his origin for similar election manipulation there???

Posted by: tucanofulano | January 7, 2008 2:00 AM | Report abuse

Fox used the SAME ACTORS in their Focus Group at around 3:46
and at around 1:44

Posted by: timothy529 | January 7, 2008 1:58 AM | Report abuse

Perhaps it would be more appropriate at this point to ask Rudy Giuliani and Fred Thompson if they intend to run as a third-party candidate, or drop out (as the media has hounded Ron Paul incessantly).

Those two's poll numbers, support and fundraising are increasingly drying up and disappearing. Fred Thompson at the last two debates looked like an actor who's tired of playing a role for too long (maybe 'looked like' is the wrong term- maybe 'IS' would be more appropriate!). Rudy may talk a good game to the Neo-COn Kool-Aid drinkers, but the more he speaks, and the more American voters get to know him, the more his stock plummets. How many states will he skip before he's mathematically eliminated?

Meanwhile, Mike Huckabee is looking more and more like the Ayatollah of one-trick ponies. When he speaks, you almost want to look at the back of his shirt for Ed Rollins' hand moving the lips from behind. Despite his folksy 'aw-shucks' delivery, his mean streak and tendency to lash out at both foes and the media shows to me the lack of a proper temperment to hold the office of President. John McCain, meanwhile has become the latest Media Darling. But a close look at the record of what he has said and done in the past (compared to his position at any given moment) shows him to be just another political creature who is willing to sacrifice his principles and character on the altar of political power.

Ron Paul has been open and honest about his positions, and backs them up with facts- when you can hear him over the un-Presidential laughing, shouts, insults and catcalls. I think his ability to hold his head high and rise above the childlike taunts and illogical and facetious critiques of his opponents shows much more of a Presidential temperment and demeanor than any of his Republican Rivals have shown.


Posted by: xtrabiggg | January 7, 2008 1:49 AM | Report abuse

I plan on voting for Dr. Paul even if I have to write his name in. I believe it is the only way for libertarians to get a seat at the table. We may be an ideological minority, but we deserve and demand a voice in national affairs.

The GOP and media establishment have been been hostile to us for ignorant and cynical reasons. We want freedom for everybody, not just ourselves. We want the government to do what it was designed to do: protect individual rights, not determine outcomes. That shouldn't merit such hostility.

Thank you for letting me post these thoughts.

Posted by: billyjoeallen | January 7, 2008 1:34 AM | Report abuse

First I would like to say thank you Washington Post for this coverage on Ron Paul. The more he is given the opportunity to speak the more support he gets, Freedom is popular, and I believe New Hampshire knows that. It is not really the man Ron Paul that I am commited to, although he is very intelligent, it is his message, and his loyalty to our Constitution, and his stance on the issues that we the people believe in. Ron Paul had his very own one hour Televised Townhall meeting with the people of New Hampshire today, and it was great. They could not fit all the people in the room. As for not being invited to the Fauxnews-fox debate, I did not watch it, I am boycotting Foxnews, and their sponsors, but I'm sure I didn't miss much, other than more warmongering, and childish behavior with the other 5 candidates. I would like to say that McCain should be ashamed of himself for the way he disrespects Ron Paul and Romney during these debates. He is nothing but a arrogant warmongering bully, and I personally do not want a big fat bully running MY AMERICA. I am sure the people of New Hampshire see what a control freak McCain really is as well. I am a former US Air Force member, minority, and Ron Paul has my vote and support.

Posted by: tess101 | January 7, 2008 12:54 AM | Report abuse

Ron Paul is an enigma. He is representative of what it is to desire to be free, and he creates dynamic relationships with people who listen to his views on Constitutional principles and returning the country to an open limited government.

Freedom of the individual is basically the message. He returns the money (removes IRS) to the people, government is limited to defense and "protecting" individual's essential liberty (the princple this country was founded on).

He doesn't bring everything that is new. He brings to us what is already guarenteed us: life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness with government at home, taking care to protect it's citizens while they live that freedom.

To say you are an American is to be proud of your freedom. Ron Paul is simply offering everything is owed to the people, but has been lacking or taken away within the last 100 years. Pretty easy choice there.

Posted by: impassion | January 7, 2008 12:52 AM | Report abuse

A weak federal government is what Paul advocates. That was tried in the Articles of Confederation and it didn't work. The states decided they needed a federal government with some teeth so we ended up with our Constitution. I think we need a strong federal government, balanced by state power, not a weak federal government with all the power in the states. There is tyranny and corruption at all levels and so the Founders of our nation devised a system where they all have to share power. It is a system of checks and balances, and it is important that it be maintained, not shriveled down to a feudal-like system akin to the warloads of Afghanistan who run a corrupt tribal system within a very weak national government. That isn't working, is it? Neither is what Paul advocates.

Posted by: goldie2 | January 7, 2008 12:46 AM | Report abuse

I'm a little baffled by the refuge sought in Ron Paul as a "Revolutionary" candidate. While some of the more libertarian views he holds have some rational and seemingly fresh appeal, I think the GOP and its big roomy all-inclusive tent is the right place for Paul. Take his own words, "We are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, but it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings, and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers." May Paul and Obama both win their nominations and let the "free education" begin!

Posted by: mediaoffline | January 7, 2008 12:42 AM | Report abuse

Ron Paul has a unique viewpoint among the major candidates. He truly understands what our founders meant about the perils of too much government. Today government at all levels controls too much of our income and wastes our resources. We should have much less government, have more control over the fruits of our labors, and make our own decisions about where we want to spend our money, rather than having politicians make so many decisions for us.

Posted by: Lysander1001 | January 7, 2008 12:32 AM | Report abuse

If you're upset with Fox News, do like I've done: Buy a share of their stock and crash their stockholder meeting in October.

Posted by: Josey2006 | January 7, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

I love the guy. I'm voting for Obama, but Paul's take on U.S. foreign policy is the best I've heard in years. The arrogant, cynical disgust that McCaine showed when Paul spoke is exactly why we need to get rid of all the 'experienced' types who got us into this spot in the first place.

Posted by: fierbiz | January 7, 2008 12:28 AM | Report abuse

Ron Paul is the only candidate that exposes the travesties that have been placed upon us by the government while giving benefits to special interests. There is only one candidate that challenges that power structure. Follow your conscience and vote in your primary for Ron Paul. Now is the time to take our country back!

Posted by: crldrummer | January 7, 2008 12:18 AM | Report abuse

What I love about Ron Paul's run for the presidency is that we get to hear and read all sorts of interesting discussions about taxes, gold, war, welfare, foreign policy, federal reserve, etc. Go to almost any Ron Paul article and the comments are great! There are some crazies out there but all-in-all the Ron Pauls folks are well read, intelligent and passionate.

Just imagine what we'll get to enjoy when Dr Paul is elected President. This could be the best fours years of education that the American people will ever get and they won't have to pay a dime for it. In fact, they will get to go to "school" and get "paid" for it in the form of a reduced federal government.

Posted by: countsueulaw | January 6, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

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