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Shooting for the Stars, Clinton Finds Skeptics on the Ground

By Jose Antonio Vargas
COLUMBUS, Ohio -- It's a story Sen. Hillary Clinton has told before. Yet standing alongside the rarely seen John Glenn, the legendary astronaut-turned-Ohio senator, it took on a higher meaning.

When she was a young girl, Clinton said, she wrote a letter to what was then a new agency called NASA and asked, "How do you become an astronaut?" But NASA, as she recalled, replied: "We're not accepting women into the astronaut program."

"Isn't it great that we've seen women astronauts?" Clinton told the crowd of about 2,500 gathered at the French Field House at Ohio State University. "We have seen so much change in a relatively short period of time."

It was a genuine moment. But just a second later she was back on her stump speech, which touched on her typical laundry list of policies: economic growth, withdrawing from Iraq, universal health care, global warming, student loans, etc. Flanked by some of the biggest names in Buckeye State politics -- Glenn, Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland and Ray Miller, the state Senate's minority leader -- Clinton didn't name Sen. Barack Obama. The closest she got to a swipe was when she said, "I don't want to be vague in the general election. I want to be very specific."

The more direct hits were left to her surrogates. Miller, the 14th African American elected to the Ohio Senate in the state's 203-year history, said: "Diversity is more than color.... Diversity is about attitudes, and real change." The crowd erupted. "Experience matters," Miller continued, "and Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton has experience."

Toward the end of Clinton's nearly 30-minute speech, some attendees started trickling out. It's Valentine's Day, after all, and a few told The Trail that they had dates. But Aisling McKeom, a marketing student at Ohio State, said she was leaving because the speech left her uninspired. "She was talking about the usual things she talks about. I want to support her. I want to support what could be our first female president. I'm just not sure she's the one," the 19-year-old told The Trail. McKeom said she's leaning toward Obama.

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To quote suziefromatlanta "Meanwhile, the email gives Sen. Obama credit for every bill he introduced or signed on as a co-sponsor, whether or not they became law. The reality is, since Sen. Obama joined the Senate (applying the same standard the email applies to Hillary) he has sponsored two bills that have become law:

-- a bill that sought to promote democracy in the Democratic Republic of Congo.

-- a bill that named a post office."

From your post i gather you support Senator Clinton's bid for the presidency, I respect that very much and have nothing against your point of view, However I would prefer it if you could respond to such emails with facts and not misinformation.

All the information you need on bills both Senators have sponsored or co sponsored are available at the Library of Congress
this is the link:http://www.loc.gov/index.html

To quote you again: "Meanwhile, the email gives Sen. Obama credit for every bill he introduced or signed on as a co-sponsor, whether or not they became law. The reality is, since Sen. Obama joined the Senate (applying the same standard the email applies to Hillary) he has sponsored two bills that have become law:

-- a bill that sought to promote democracy in the Democratic Republic of Congo.

-- a bill that named a post office"

That is serious misinformation and it would not do well for whichever candidate you support, instead try to educate yourself on the issues and use facts to justify your judgment.

The following are some of the bills Senator Obama authored or co-sponsored that have have become law,

**The Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006
**The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act
**The 2007 Government Ethics Bill

You can find the full list at the library of Congress.

The internet has all the information you need, use it to find out the facts,not manufacture them. Post something positive about your candidate, who knows it might bring more to your cause, But posting misinformation, well that just does the opposite.

Happy Voting

Posted by: election_watch | February 16, 2008 1:09 PM

There is an email circulating that grossly misrepresents Hillary's legislative record, as well as the record of Sen. Obama. (Various versions appear on the Obama campaign website here, here, and here.)

The email only gives Hillary credit for bills where she was the original sponsor and have also been signed into law. Here are the facts. In her time in the Senate, Hillary has sponsored 21 bills that have become law including:

-- a bill that extended the availability of unemployment assistance.

-- a bill which established a program to assist family caregivers.

-- a bill that provided benefits to public safety officers who were killed or injured during the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

But Hillary's accomplishments in the Senate are not limited to bill sponsorships. Among her many other legislative accomplishments:

-- Hillary worked with Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) to expand access to health care for the National Guard and Reserve.

-- Hillary passed an amendment that created a national program for teacher and principal training and recruitment.

-- Hillary used Senate rules to force the Bush administration to make emergency contraception, also known as Plan B, available over the counter.


Meanwhile, the email gives Sen. Obama credit for every bill he introduced or signed on as a co-sponsor, whether or not they became law. The reality is, since Sen. Obama joined the Senate (applying the same standard the email applies to Hillary) he has sponsored two bills that have become law:

-- a bill that sought to promote democracy in the Democratic Republic of Congo.

-- a bill that named a post office.

Posted by: suziefromatlanta | February 15, 2008 11:03 PM

Election-watch, I loved your comment. You did not spout of lot of hate and actually documented good facts. I have done research and found the same list of what Hillary has done and what Obama has done. This is good information for any independent voter who will like to see a comparison of what exactly the two candidates have done. I am making a copy. Thanks. All us Obama supporters need to take Election-watch's lead. Let's not even respond to the Obama haters' rhetoric, let's just list the facts and where we got our information from for the Hillary supporters to see for themselves - if they really wish to see for themselves. For starts, the Hillary health care plan will garnish wages if you cannot buy the insurance. I got this information from a special CNN news report of the same kind of plan used in Massachusetts. There were people interviewed who still could not afford the plan and this year those people will be fined $500. Next year they will be fined $1000. They lost their job but they are still required to pay for the insurance. During Super Tuesday election, Arnold Schwazeneggar was interviewed and said that the health plan voted on that day was just like Hillary Clinto's plan and it was voted against. Pass it on.

Posted by: bvrlyjackson | February 15, 2008 9:01 PM

There isn't a media bias... just one candidate who chose to run a clean campaign... and one candidate who choose to twist the others words whenever she is down...

Posted by: mhawkins2 | February 15, 2008 3:53 PM

I bet McKeom was not the only one that felt this way, she was just the one that was honest about her feelings. All those others that left before the end of her speech probably did not have dates but were no longer interested in the message of Clinton, just didn't want to admit it. You know every time I here of Clinton's experience qualifications, I have to ask myself, what experience and what has that experience got me of this country. The answer is clear, scandals upon scandals, a war that we should not have gotten in and young lives lost, failed health care plans that she could not get passed in eight years because of her divisive politics and back room deals. Clinton is a former republican that supported Barry Goldwater and has brought her republican upbringing to her political life. Now that is experience the United States of America can do without.

Posted by: lopwise | February 15, 2008 1:38 PM

Thank you Ocean 73 for bringing up Rupert Murdoc, who just happened to throw Hillary a fund raising party, which she and Bill attended during the big "FOX" birthday celebration last year. Who's in bed with the wrong people (besides Bill?). And what about the 840 million dollars she recieved from the insurance industry to stop pushing insurance reform? Sure, she's really going to change her mind on insurance reform now. 35 years of experience? 8 years as first lady having smoke blown up her,,, by hubby (he does love those cigars, dosn't he?). Monica has a few years experiene with Bill as well, maybe she could get a cabinet position out of it.

Posted by: lbylconst | February 15, 2008 12:40 PM

To bhatttt:

Where exactly are you getting your information from? First of all, Barack has a sister. His father was a non-practicing muslim who didn't even raise him. Barack was raised by his white mother and white grandparents. He has been a practicing Christian for 20 years, so why on earth would he all of a sudden switch to Islam? And if by some miniscule chance that he did what does that have to do with the presidency. Not all Muslims are extremists and terrorists. Get your facts straight before making yourself sound like a moron. Check out this clip it is an interveiw of Maya, Barack's sister giving insight on their upbringing and her veiws on his candidacy. :

http://blip.tv/file/332972

Posted by: pixie_chic_83 | February 15, 2008 12:17 PM

The more I hear about Obama the more I get nervous about this guy. It's amazing that the media doesn't want to cover more detail about him. I suppose we are too apathetic to care. We just want a entertaining actor in chief like Obama. The ambiguity with which Obama addresses issues reminds me a lot of Bush. Then again, that may be what we want.

"Obama's plan today is the most shameless piece of potential plagiarism that I have ever seen," McCain economic advisor Kevin Hassett said.

"He basically took Clinton's words and Clinton's policies and called them his own," Hassett said. "If I were a professor I'd give him an F and try to get him kicked out of school for something this terrible ... I remember Mrs. Clinton saying shared prosperity and I remember the bill that she introduced in August for infrastructure. The fact is these are things Obama has taken as his own without crediting the source of the ideas which was Mrs. Clinton."

On another note, I wonder what affect it would have on our society if President Obama decides to revert to Islam, the faith of his father, one day. How would that affect us? Would it affect us? I don't think that question has ever been posed. Both of his fathers were Muslim and so is his brother. He is said to have had deep admiration for his brother when he formally started practicing Islam. I think these are questions most Americans care about but we've never really had to confront before now.

Posted by: bhatttt | February 15, 2008 11:54 AM

The point of this article is the Hillary falls flat on inspiration. It's hard to dispute this fact - listen to Clinton versus Obama and Obama is clearly more inspirational.

I've listened to Hillary's stump speech in El Paso and she's attempting more flower oratory but it just isn't her forte. This is why Al Gore and John Kerry didn't win either - they weren't able to express passion in their speeches.

All you Hillary supporters, chill out - this isn't Hillary bashing. It's pointing out the reason why she hasn't been effective against Obama.

Posted by: Jeanne1 | February 15, 2008 11:39 AM

this is yet another typical anti-clinton piece of writing. The media needs to start to do their job and actually scrutinise both candidates. Why are their policies so close? Its because Obama appears to be incapable of coming up with his own ideas, from what I have read (and yes I have read both candidates websites) he takes hillary clintons ideas and slightly modifies them so that he can tout them as his own, there have been several examples of this: green collar jobs, national infrastructure bank, gulf states cleanup, healthcare. Did you know that whoopi goldberg changed her vote - she said that she was going to vote for the candidate that said they would eliminate tax breaks for companies that send jobs overseas, she had heard obama say that he would a few days before Super Tuesday but when she did some research she saw that Hillary clinton has not only been saying this on the campaign trail for months but she has also been saying it in the senate for months so she voted for hillary clinton. The media should compare both candidates policies and then publicise the results not the comparison that they completed today but when these policies were announced then people will see the truth about who is really about change. I thought better of the Washington Post, I really believed that the staff of this newspaper had intergrity but i have come to learn that they have jumped on the Obama is perfect bandwaggon - be careful what you wish for America is in a pretty dire position and you need a work horse to lead not a show horse.

Posted by: ang1 | February 15, 2008 11:23 AM

I'm very tired of all these card-carrying democrats insisting that its somehow "Wrong" to support Obama, but not to support Clinton. Nuts to you. The comment Obama made about clinton's supporters coming to his side, but not the other way around was - as is his style - INCLUSIVE. He refers to the non-traditional and non-democrat parts of his constituency. Like me, my mom, my entire republican family, my 90 year old grandmother, my friends, my college roommates, my sister who's never voted before (she's 26) etc etc. These people will NEVER vote for clinton (including me) and its awful presumptive of some of you to suggest its their duty or somehow they're in the wrong if they don't rush to the polls to support this hypocritical snake in the grass.

Again. Nuts to you. My party doesn't determine who I vote for, and unaffiliated people have no obligation to vote for your coronated Vietnam era queen. Clinton is totally the past. She has no vision for the future, she follows the polls (its hard to be a leader when you're staring at the heels of the person in front of you). She's bitter, angry, and hopelessly divisive an unelectable. I tell you right now, the Democratic party (if you want to say it that way) loses at least 20 votes from 20 people I know if she's the nominee. ANd at least 10 of those will go out and vote McCain.
Now You tell obama supporters to grow up - sorry, that's what we've done. You need to grow up and accept that you're no longer the only demographic that matters, and you don't always get your way anymore.

Man I'm sick of baby boomers telling us how stupid we are. And by the way, asking someone why they're leaving a poorly-attended funereal campaign event is a logical thing to do. Stop whining and start reading the writing on the wall. This is utter pretense and if she had any dignity at all, she'd drop from the race.

If the democrats who cry foul at a lack of unity actually believe that spew, they should encourage their candidate to step down and support Obama. What? That accomplishes the same goal. Oh, Oh I see, it only counts for Obama supporters and Obama. We should all just step out of the way so Her Royal Clinton can have what's coming to her.

Step aside so you don't get run over by the train, dear woman.

Posted by: Nemotoad | February 15, 2008 11:01 AM

Obviously, Mr Vargas has chosen to sell his soul to get ahead in the get along go along Clinton/Gore hating profession that major national media source journalism has become. If I ever make a similar decision, I hope I will have the decency to feel shame.

Posted by: zukermand | February 15, 2008 9:40 AM

"Fair reporting" cannot mean "not reporting" facts with which some readers (in this instance, Clinton supporters) disagree.

One person said she was unconvinced at that rally, out of the ones that the reporter spoke to. Readers know it is just one person. They can generalise or not, as the case may be.

But at least they KNOW. Because someone REPORTED it.

Clinton supporters are getting ridiculously blinded by the race if they think this piece is unfair reporting.

Posted by: henni.ouahes | February 15, 2008 5:21 AM

I'm not surprised that people leave Mrs. Clinton's appearances early. What does surprise me is that anyone shows up in the first place.

The opposite of "inspirational" is not "uninspirational," it's depressing.

And if there's anything Mrs. Clinton does really well, it is to depress (47%) of her fellow Americans (just by breathing).

As an older, white American female (long active in equalizing the gender power-differential), Mrs. Clinton doesn't represent me. She represent the women who never moved forward. (The really ANGRY ones.)

Posted by: miraclestudies | February 15, 2008 4:20 AM

She also claimed that she was name Hillary at birth after the great Everest conqueror Mr.Hillary.
The only problem is that Mr.Hillary did not conquer Everest until about 5 years after Hillary Clinton was born.

So yes I'm skeptical about this NASA letter

Posted by: airborne5982 | February 15, 2008 3:10 AM

Why can't the reason be that people are tired of hearing about Hillary from Hillary?

Posted by: LiveFree | February 15, 2008 2:35 AM

Clinton pays rent; money goes to Obama.

PORTSMOUTH -- Rochester physician Terry Bennett said he believes the only reason Sen. Hillary Clinton's campaign paid for renting a building he owns in Portsmouth is because he became the "squeaky wheel."

Now, Bennett said, he will donate the $500 check to Sen. Barack Obama's rival presidential campaign. He said he's doing it because he likes Obama, but also as a statement on the way he feels he was treated by the staff of the Clinton campaign.

http://www.seacoastonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080214/NEWS/802140403

Posted by: cakemanjb | February 15, 2008 2:10 AM

If the Democrats are foolish enough to nominate Hillary Clinton, they will be nominating the one Democrat who can lose to the GOP this year.

As a disgruntled Republican, the ONE thing that will make me (and many other Republicans) hold our noses and vote for McCain this year is Hillary Clinton! Please lets just let Obama win and end the war...

Posted by: navymanusna | February 15, 2008 1:51 AM

So you found the one girl who had doubts! WOW are you the investigative reporter!! PLEASE TRY TO BE IMPARTIAL AND REMEMBER WHAT REPORTING IS ABOUT.

Posted by: ricksramblings | February 15, 2008 1:39 AM

I wish HRC supporters would stop whining about media bias as if the media is what is wrong with her poorly organized and executed campaign. The media called her the inevitable one. The media keeps saying you can't count out a Clinton. I just read an article here or in the NY Times called "Trending Obama" if it makes you feel better -it is nothing but an anecdote about how the journalist's "friend" was going to vote for Obama until he saw the "Yes,we can" supporter-created video and decided he did not want to vote for a "rock star." There! One shining example of how crap stories are put out by journalists that "benefit" both sides.

As for the poster who keeps posting that Obama is not a uniter because his pastor said something disgraceful about Natalee Holloway, that is just a stupid position to take up. Rendell, who supports HRC, said PA whites won't vote black -how inflammatory is that?! The point is this: we barely hold candidates accountable for their surrogates' inflammatory speech. Certainly Obama is not responsible for what someone says that is wholly unrelated to him or his campaign! And certainly HRC supporters are in no position to counter that 'you can tell a lot about the person by the company they keep'... don't argue, just be honest.

Posted by: Kai_bleu | February 15, 2008 1:34 AM

Well said ocean. I do notice that the young posters on boards are crude like fratboys can be and who were in elementary school when Bush 1 was in office. It does track the exit polls in that he gets the college kids talking.

Obama is on record saying Hillary's backers will go to him if he wins but not the other way around. Not exactly committed Democrats imo. And he's bragging about that? What a doof.

If that's who Obama is inspiring then we do indeed need help.

I think History won't fail us and these "inspired" kids won't show up for the general election and we Dems will have a fight on our hands.

Also, it's a total joke that the media says that this isn't about race and gender then quotes the numbers that 90% of blacks back Obama and he has Oprah in his corner. How is that not about race and gender? It's everything about both. Let's acknowledge the elephants in the room. I fear that the boys club in the media will be a formidable foe. I do think Hillary is up to the task. Go Hillary!

Posted by: twotier97 | February 15, 2008 12:40 AM

To quote ocean73_2000 "If Obama gets to become president, he will go down in history as the coolest president that America has ever had or will have. Or until, maybe the next candidate surfaces from the MTV generation. This group is not capable of understanding complex ideas and instead prefers to have "nut shell" ideas or summaries. This group prefers just a few words of description and mostly relies on catch phrases."

Does this entail that their voices don't deserve to be heard? Dont they deserve to participate in the whole process just like you do?

This is part of the "We know whats best for you" syndrome.

If the whole polity based their opinions on this, Women and minorities would still be fighting for the right to vote.

Better yet, why don't all young people just vote for who the wise elders prefer. Im sure that would make a lot of people happy.

Cmon Give young people more credit,if you want to get your opinion across don't sound so condescending.Were not as dumb as you obviously think.

Happy voting

Posted by: election_watch | February 15, 2008 12:29 AM

"His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427."

This post is making the rounds and it's total b.s. You'd have to be a complete ignoramus to think he authored 152 bills in 1 year.

Check the facts, he passed only 1 bill into law and spent much of his time dodging the tough fights on the floor of the Senate.

Throw in his present votes in the state legislature and he's just not tested. I don't want to find out how badly he'll screw up as president.

Inexperience is not what we need now. We need a leader who can hit the ground running. That's Hillary. Do your homework. It's worth it. GL

Posted by: twotier97 | February 15, 2008 12:21 AM

Nag, Nag, Nag...Obama supporters are of course much smarter than the rest of us. These folks are college educated and surely capable of distinguishing who is more honest and more sincere and who is not. Reality check time: Obama supporters are the main demographic for media conglomerates, like Rupert Murdoc, Disney (MTV), and Viacom, to name of few. They not only control your kids but also control what is considered cool for all of us. This "cool" is being mass produced and feed to us, ie, Obama the hero, Obama the changer, Obama the hope giver. Can anyone say, ratings. Ratings drive todays news just like it drives prime time reality shows and that is why news shows try to be hip by refering to Chelsey as being "pimped out." That comment was never ment to be understood by the older, wiser viewer. Remember, ratings translate into revenue or profits if you will. Now, on to the next demographic, 18-28, which is the largest targeted demographic which accounts for about 150 Billion dollars in spending and this group is easily swayed by dressy, shiney superficial entertainnment. Today, the news has become more than just news it has become entertainment and that is why "dissing" Hillary gets such high ratings and why Obama is the prefered "cool" candidate today. Already, music videos have been made on his behalf and who knows what tomorrow will yield. If Obama gets to become president, he will go down in history as the cooliest president that America has ever had or will have. Or until, maybe the next candidate surfaces from the MTV generation. This group is not capable of understanding complex ideas and instead prefers to have "nut shell" ideas or summaries. This group prefers just a few words of description and mostly relies on catch phrases. Yeah, the media knows how to control the trends and Obama's words fall right into line with this type of marketing to these groups. Obama has a huge advantage because he doesn't remind young adults of their parents whereas, Hillary reminds this group of the "out of touch adults" that they know most intimately, their parents. Look people, don't let greed and image influence you!!! Try thinking before you make your choices. And lastly, whether you select Obama or Clinton, understand who is lurking in the wings. Please don't crown a media president based on looks. We have to demand more debates and more from these candidates. That's what a democracy affords us.

Please folks, save us from ourselfs.

Posted by: ocean73_2000 | February 14, 2008 11:49 PM

Boo-Hoo, the Clintons are being torn apart by the evil media!!! What a bunch of cry babies the Clintonistas are.......Regardless of what you think of Obama (indeed, at times he DOES need to be more substantial in his speeches), these are the facts as I see them:
1. The Clintons will do ANYTHING, SAY ANYTHING to win. Bend the truth, outright lie, doesn't matter, no approach no matter how venal or reprehensible is off the table.
2. Hillary can't win!! Who do the Republicans want to face in November? Hillary. Why? Because 45%+ of the electorate would vote for JOE STALIN before they voted for her. WHY is that Clintonistas? See point #1. Think I'm some wacko? Read The Economist's poll of voters in November when there will 11-12 total candidates in the race. They had separate ratings for honesty, integrity, morality and asked a valid sample of NATIONAL voters to rate the candidates on these and other atributes. HRC came in DEAD LAST of TWELVE candidates on ALL 3 categories.

Posted by: cliffordmc | February 14, 2008 11:33 PM

Obama is a UNITER?

Here is Obama for you


Obama's pastor disses Natalee Holloway

'White girl goes off and gives it up' in Aruba, preacher pal says

'White girl goes off and gives it up' in Aruba, preacher pal says

'White girl goes off and gives it up' in Aruba, preacher pal says


Posted: January 27, 2008
6:49 pm Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily.com


Sen. Barack Obama's longtime friend and spiritual adviser trashed the memory of a missing and presumed dead American teenage girl, according to church publications reviewed by WND.

Rev. Jeremiah Wright, the controversial minister of Obama's church in Chicago, cited the case of Natalee Holloway's disappearance in Aruba in complaining about what he sees as the media's bias in covering white victims of crime over black victims.

"Black women are being raped daily in Darfur, Sudan, in the Congo and in Sub-Saharan Africa. That doesn't make news," Wright said in the August 2005 edition of Trumpet Magazine, a publication of his Trinity United Church of Christ.

But, "One 18-year-old white girl from Alabama gets drunk on a graduation trip to Aruba, goes off and 'gives it up' while in a foreign country, and that stays in the news for months!" he added. "Maybe I am missing something!"

In the same 2005 church publication, Wright suggested "white America" had the 9/11 attacks coming, while calling for business "divestment from Israel," which he refers to as a "racist" state along with America.

"In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01," he wrote on page 7. "White America and the Western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just 'disappeared,' as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring Black concerns."

Obama says he is "proud" of Wright and values their 20-year friendship.

Though Wright has nurtured Obama's political career as a close adviser and mentor, the Democrat presidential hopeful says they don't agree on everything. Wright married Obama and baptized his daughters.

In the November/December 2007 issue of Trumpet, Wright sang the praises of Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, who has described whites as "blue-eyed devils" and Jews as "bloodsuckers."

"He brings a perspective that is helpful and honest," Wright said. "Minister Farrakhan will be remembered as one of the 20th and 21st century giants of the African-American religious experience."

Wright then held Farrakhan up as a pillar of "integrity."

"His integrity and honesty have secured him a place in history as one of the nation's most powerful critics," he continued. "His love for Africa and African-American people has made him an unforgettable force, a catalyst for change and a religious leader who is sincere about his faith and his purpose."

Farrakhan's photo is splashed across the cover of the church magazine, which gushes "the Minister truly epitomized greatness."

On Nov. 2, 2007, Wright presented Farrakhan with a "lifetime achievement" award during a Trumpet gala held at the Hyatt Regency Chicago. The tribute included a three-and-a-half minute video lionizing "the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan."

"For his commitment to truth, education and leadership, we honor Minister Louis Farrakhan with the Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Lifetime Achievement Award," the video announces.

Last week, Obama distanced himself from Farrakhan, but did not distance himself from Wright or disavow his praise for Farrakhan

Posted by: ebubuk2004 | February 14, 2008 11:33 PM

Clinton pays rent; money goes to Obama.

PORTSMOUTH -- Rochester physician Terry Bennett said he believes the only reason Sen. Hillary Clinton's campaign paid for renting a building he owns in Portsmouth is because he became the "squeaky wheel."

Now, Bennett said, he will donate the $500 check to Sen. Barack Obama's rival presidential campaign. He said he's doing it because he likes Obama, but also as a statement on the way he feels he was treated by the staff of the Clinton campaign.

http://www.seacoastonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080214/NEWS/802140403

Posted by: cakemanjb | February 14, 2008 11:28 PM

Garry Wills wrote the Pulitzer winning "Lincoln at Gettysburg," subtitled "The Words That Remade America." The analogy to Obama's rhetoric is not lost.....
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/02/15/lincoln-less-gettysburg/

Posted by: glclark4750 | February 14, 2008 11:21 PM

Jose Varga, maybe you should write about this....heee
I dare you you wite about this.
Obama is a UNITER?

Here is Obama for you


Obama's pastor disses Natalee Holloway

'White girl goes off and gives it up' in Aruba, preacher pal says

'White girl goes off and gives it up' in Aruba, preacher pal says

'White girl goes off and gives it up' in Aruba, preacher pal says


Posted: January 27, 2008
6:49 pm Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily.com


Sen. Barack Obama's longtime friend and spiritual adviser trashed the memory of a missing and presumed dead American teenage girl, according to church publications reviewed by WND.

Rev. Jeremiah Wright, the controversial minister of Obama's church in Chicago, cited the case of Natalee Holloway's disappearance in Aruba in complaining about what he sees as the media's bias in covering white victims of crime over black victims.

"Black women are being raped daily in Darfur, Sudan, in the Congo and in Sub-Saharan Africa. That doesn't make news," Wright said in the August 2005 edition of Trumpet Magazine, a publication of his Trinity United Church of Christ.

But, "One 18-year-old white girl from Alabama gets drunk on a graduation trip to Aruba, goes off and 'gives it up' while in a foreign country, and that stays in the news for months!" he added. "Maybe I am missing something!"

In the same 2005 church publication, Wright suggested "white America" had the 9/11 attacks coming, while calling for business "divestment from Israel," which he refers to as a "racist" state along with America.

"In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01," he wrote on page 7. "White America and the Western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just 'disappeared,' as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring Black concerns."

Obama says he is "proud" of Wright and values their 20-year friendship.

Though Wright has nurtured Obama's political career as a close adviser and mentor, the Democrat presidential hopeful says they don't agree on everything. Wright married Obama and baptized his daughters.

In the November/December 2007 issue of Trumpet, Wright sang the praises of Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, who has described whites as "blue-eyed devils" and Jews as "bloodsuckers."

"He brings a perspective that is helpful and honest," Wright said. "Minister Farrakhan will be remembered as one of the 20th and 21st century giants of the African-American religious experience."

Wright then held Farrakhan up as a pillar of "integrity."

"His integrity and honesty have secured him a place in history as one of the nation's most powerful critics," he continued. "His love for Africa and African-American people has made him an unforgettable force, a catalyst for change and a religious leader who is sincere about his faith and his purpose."

Farrakhan's photo is splashed across the cover of the church magazine, which gushes "the Minister truly epitomized greatness."

On Nov. 2, 2007, Wright presented Farrakhan with a "lifetime achievement" award during a Trumpet gala held at the Hyatt Regency Chicago. The tribute included a three-and-a-half minute video lionizing "the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan."

"For his commitment to truth, education and leadership, we honor Minister Louis Farrakhan with the Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Lifetime Achievement Award," the video announces.

Last week, Obama distanced himself from Farrakhan, but did not distance himself from Wright or disavow his praise for Farrakhan


Posted by: ebubuk2004 | February 14, 2008 11:19 PM

If we are already blaming the the media for bashing the Clintons, and this is only the primary, I fear the "vast right-wing conspiracy" cannot be too far behind. What a shame it would be for us to re-fight those battles of the 1990's at this moment in history.

Posted by: bdfroms | February 14, 2008 11:06 PM

Why is this sorta thing not covered when Obama speaks? I for one have been to both Obama and Clinton events and at each event there are always people that are not moved by the speech. In fact there are many that just come out and say talk is cheap. It is interesting how the media never seems to tell the exact story.

Posted by: btwsadlbcom | February 14, 2008 11:02 PM

It started with "35 yrs of experience".....
Now its all about "Solutions not Questions"

There are many things that Senator Obama and Senator Clinton have in common, and a few where they differ (in my opinion, mostly in the categories of diplomacy, rhetorical skill, and personal appeal). However, if we must stretch so far for differences,let's just have a look at her voting record and look at Senator Obama's as well:

"Senator Clinton, who has served only one full term (6yrs.), and another year campaigning, has managed to author and pass into law, (20) twenty pieces of legislation in her first six years.

These bills can be found on the website of the Library of Congress (www.thomas.loc.gov), but to save you trouble, I'll post them here for you.

1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Hon
4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson.
6. Name post office after Jonn A. O'Shea.
7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.
13. Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty.
Only five of Clinton's bills are more substantive:

16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11
18. Assist landmine victims in other countries.
19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.

There you have it-the facts straight from the Senate Record.

Now, I would post those of Obama's, but the list is too substantive, so I'll mainly categorize.

During the first (8) eight years of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced:

233 regarding healthcare reform,
125 on poverty and public assistance,
112 crime fighting bills,
97 economic bills,
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 ethics reform bills,
15 gun control,
6 veterans affairs and many others.

His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These inculded:

**the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law),
**The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law),
**The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
**The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law),
**The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee), and many more."

If this is a product of "35 years of experience" or its the "Solutions not Questions" Senator Clinton is talking about, I would rather pick Senator Obama's "Results" Over 100 years of experience

Enough rhetoric, The Voters Deserve the Facts

Thank You Avavir33 for giving me facts to work with, its a break From all the emotion's taking hold in this process.

Happy Voting

Posted by: election_watch | February 14, 2008 10:57 PM

Remember this is the "exciting" part of the campaign. Before it ws the "fun" part. It has been both fun and exiciting watching her run a national campaign into the ground. Not exactly the kind of "experience" we need in the White House.

Posted by: jsherm45 | February 14, 2008 10:55 PM

I wonder if Obama will get more or less than 2500....

The Clintons have effectively turned all attention to Ohio and Texas. But what if they lose there too?

http://www.politicalinaction.com

Posted by: bschick20 | February 14, 2008 10:40 PM

I was astonished that Clinton gave a speech attacking Obama for giving speeches! Her advisors must be really terrible.

I cannot believe that is what she has to show for her so called 35 years of experience.

Posted by: kwakuazar | February 14, 2008 10:18 PM

Yeah Clintonites! Blame the media for the crumbling of your candidate. Wasn't Billary's ability to work her way trough the "mudthrowing" of others the nearest thing to an argument for supporting her? You don't like the PERSONNAL view on column? Well stick to the Billary website.
Here's a link to feed your hunger for positive news about the "more e-perienced-yet-passed-much-less-numerous-and-much-less-significant-bills-in-more-years-than-the-other-one" candidate

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/

Posted by: hsibomana | February 14, 2008 10:17 PM

What is the purpose for "We're not accepting women into the astronaut program.". "Isn't it great that we've seen women astronauts?" I wonder if Obama would say something like... "last time I checked, there were no black president in the 200 some years of U.S. History", "isn't it great I am runnig for the president of the United States?" Hilary has used the gender card. I wonder if Obama would take advantage of his race card?

Posted by: election08 | February 14, 2008 10:14 PM

Of course the media found the skeptical Obama supporter at a Hillary rally. The media has been supporting Obama and tearing the Clintons down since this campaign started, and it is definitely starting to have an effect. I hope everyone questions why the same media who helped George Bush get away with all that he has over the last seven years, is now coronating Obama as the Democratic nominee.

Posted by: theplanner | February 14, 2008 9:58 PM

This is the same old tactics used by the biased Washington Post, which endorsed Obama.

I heard that speech from Ohio on CNN Live Stream, and it was a rousing speech before some very enthusiastic supporters. Not some ho hum speech like these reporters would have you believe.

Yeah and what a coincidence that he should pull some lone person out of the large audience who says she hasn't made up here mind. How bout pulling the thousands aside who have. Give me a Break. What bias and total crap from the Washington Post.

Posted by: skywatch.media | February 14, 2008 9:57 PM

The last statement is exactly what needs to change about Hillary's campaign. She needs to give people a reason to vote for her, and the best she can do is try to give reasons not to vote for Iraq. If she can't give passionate, inspirational speeches, then she should at least nail down how her and Obama's past records and future plans differ: http://politicalmaelstrom.blogspot.com/2008/01/actual-differences-between-barack-and.html

Posted by: lostinmyownhead | February 14, 2008 9:36 PM

After The Clintons spin lie after lie upon lie, I am supposed to believe that this letter to NASA was an article of fact and is not another device in the deck of gender cards?

Sorry, I'm not in Barnum's crowd.

Posted by: brooksofsheffield | February 14, 2008 9:33 PM

Ok, do any of you shills really think that your spew has any effect on real people? It does not take a genius to figure out what comments are posted by either campaign workers or blind, psycopantic, ideologs. I wasted some time on Google News and found that the same shills are posting the same comments on every comment section of every campaign news story. Does anyone think that one single individule has ever read one online comment and thought, gosh--I guess I am full of sh*t? Nobody is buying your crap.

Posted by: holl184767 | February 14, 2008 9:29 PM

Hillary can diss Obama's "hope" and "promises" all she wants: That's what inspires folks to come out and vote, to support a candidate all the way through. That's what makes Obama electable in November.

Dry policy recitations are, well, boring.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl | February 14, 2008 9:09 PM

At a university with a 52,000 plus enrollment, 2,500 seems like a pretty sparse crowd.

Posted by: chrisbmyh | February 14, 2008 9:00 PM

I guess they should hold a sign up looking for anyone who feels inspired. Give Hillary every shot to present her side. Geez, he stopped and asked a student why they were leaving. You think the supporters were leaving early? I am smart enough to realize this is just a observational diary not a balanced report. If you want balanced read The Fact Checker. That may help a bit. If you are looking for Clinton Fluff check her website.

Posted by: clwhitworth | February 14, 2008 8:53 PM

You are right, we have come along way, free at last to choose between gender, race and age based entirely on policy and character. Wao!

Posted by: FebM | February 14, 2008 8:43 PM

Why would you go to the effort of covering a Clinton campaign stop and then misrepresent the whole thing with a bad title? Editors in love with Obama? This is disgusting.

Clinton '08 (despite the best efforts of the media)

Posted by: Susan9 | February 14, 2008 8:39 PM

Hey--I guess you made sure that you found a skeptical person attending the Clinton event. Was this lady representative of the people in the crowd? How in heaven would you just seek out a skeptical person without looking for the "balance" of a supporter?
This is precisely the media bias Senator Clinton is up against. Nothing overt--all the old covert stuff.
You want to know more--see:
http://www.reflectivepundit.com/reflectivepundit/2008/02/hillary-bashing.html

Posted by: bn1123 | February 14, 2008 8:31 PM

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