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Biden to Stay Neutral


Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden sit side by side as President Bush delivers the final State of the Union address of his presidency in Washington January 28, 2008. (Reuters).

By Shailagh Murray
When a Wilmington, Delaware rally appeared on Barack Obama's schedule today, endorsement watchers wondered, Joe Biden? No Biden, people close to the former candidate insist.

Despite aggressive courting by Obama and both Clintons, the Senate Foreign Relations Chairman has informed both Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton that he's staying neutral. Obama officials said this morning they have no reason to believe that commitment won't hold.

By Web Politics Editor  |  February 3, 2008; 10:57 AM ET
 
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Sen. Evan Bayh of Indiana (FMR Governor of Indiana) has been mentioned frequently as a choice of Sen. Clinton. The recently endorsed Kansas Governor, (can't remember her name) has been mentioned as a choice for Sen. Obama. Sen. McCain has been tied to Florida's Governor. I haven't heard any talk about who Willard's running mate would be.

Posted by: deagh54 | February 4, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Anybody got any ideas for Dem VP's or Republican VPs that are current state governors, or am i having a conversation with a bunch of campaign bots?

Posted by: commoncause.scott | February 4, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

He's hedging his bets.

Obama/Biden'08

or

Clinton's Secretary of State.

Posted by: soonerthought | February 4, 2008 8:04 AM | Report abuse

whatmeregister:

I did cast an absentee ballot for Obama in the primary -- I will NOT be voting for Obama in the general election -- get it?

Posted by: JakeD | February 3, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

This WaPo writer has had a difficult time over the past few months in telling the truth about Sen. Biden. She more often than not gets her facts wrong. I've written many a paragraph on the WaPo Comment page setting the record straight. I congratulate Ms. Murray on her article today - for the first time in a long while, she is absolutely correct. Senator Biden did not attend a rally today in Delaware for Sen. Barack Obama.

So where is the news here? It's Sen. Biden's choice not to endorse anyone.

Posted by: Eyerishize | February 3, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

We love and admire the american people for their style of life and freedom they practice. We don't believe that they will vote for a liar who denies being a muslim for the sake of presidency.He is a "Machiavellian1!!!! Do you belive him American?? we believe you hate liars!
On the other side, We are crazy about the LADY CLINTON, the ideal American image. We believe her, admire very much her wide experience that will lead America again to become the most respectable country that all the world admire and love. Please don't believe Opera Winfrey bec. she is looking for the position of VICE PRESIDEN,then the President of the USA. this will be shame on you Americans. We hate her sick endorsement to Obama they are the same who will never jump to the presidency. So, please VOTE for CLINTON
If we just get the chance to vote for her, I think she will win not less than 100 million votes. Time is running. BACK AND SUPPORT THE EXTRA ORDINARY LADY SENATOR CLINTON God bless America.

Posted by: doha.ali | February 3, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

We love and admire the american people for their style of life and freedom they practice. We don't believe that they will vote for a liar who denies being a muslim for the sake of presidency.He is a "Machiavellian1!!!! Do you belive him American?? we believe you hate liars!
On the other side, We are crazy about the LADY CLINTON, the ideal American image. We believe her, admire very much her wide experience that will lead America again to become the most respectable country that all the world admire and love. Please don't believe Opera Winfrey bec. she is looking for the position of VICE PRESIDEN,then the President of the USA. this will be shame on you Americans. We hate her sick endorsement to Obama they are the same who will never jump to the presidency. So, please VOTE for CLINTON
If we just get the chance to vote for her, I think she will win not less than 100 million votes. Time is running. BACK AND SUPPORT THE EXTRA ORDINARY LADY SENATOR CLINTON God bless America.

Posted by: doha.ali | February 3, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for those numbers Hotnuke - I'm gonna compare them with the actual outcomes and see how on the mark you were. I personally hope you are wrong, cos I'm a big Obama supporter.

Assuming she does come out with the higher delegate numbers, here is my prediction for what happens after. Obama will not bow to pressure from the Democratic Party to leave the race. Obama's campaign was funded by the people and he has an obligation, therefore to the people, to continue to the end.

Obama will reject an offer to be VP. It is also likely that Obama will never run for President again. Many people in American will continue to be enraged by how the Clinton's treated Obama and will tune out till November, when they come out in force to vote for McCain to prevent Clinton being elected. Many will simply stay at home. The youth voter turnout will fall back to normal levels, if not lower. Many will re-register as Independent.

The world, having fully caught wind of how the Clinton's conducted themselves (as they are doing so now) will be disgusted. Should the Clinton's get back into the White House, they will start working on their foreign policy against a world that sees them as liars.

Posted by: JayKay2 | February 3, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Obama's speaking style, like that of a preacher, is like fingernails on a blackboard to me. I can't stand to listen to him any more than I can stand to listen to Bush, who also preaches, though without the extra volume. Reagan and Bill Clinton were/are both good speakers because they spoke in a comfortable, conversational style.

Joe Biden was, still is, and always will be my choice for president. I have no second choice, and with him out of the running I no longer care who gets it. I don't intend to vote as things stand now, as I don't think I could force myself to vote for either Obama or Hillary. Neither of them can hold a candle to Joe.

Posted by: cacatua | February 3, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

hey tim591,

first of all...it's spelled Rezko.

Second, after a thorough investigation, Obama was discovered to have done nothing illegal or shady with Rezko.

Hillary's Co-Chair of her campaign however, has been linked to taking money from Rezko...oh the irony

Posted by: BSirvio | February 3, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

jakeD is more like "jokeD". i've learned completely discount everything he says because it's garbage.

Posted by: thephantomblot | February 3, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Goodshot junkmail, what you say is very appropriate. full of junk. Integrity, judgement, experience. There is only one word why Obama does not have these. It is "REZCO".

Posted by: tim591 | February 3, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

I think the Obama campaign would be wise strategically to promise Biden the VP spot if gets the nominee, because Hilary has likely already done the same, conditionally: if the republicans nominate McCain, Wes Clark will have the VP spot, if they nominate Romney, Evan Bayh will get the spot.

Joe Biden would be successful in countering the McCain narrative of experience.

As far as Republican VP, its difficult to say. McCain cannot choose another authoritarian moderate, like Guiliani, because the base won't have it. He can not take an ideological pander either, to upset his Independent Image. (That also rules out the hard to pin down Leiberman, Gore's former running mate, possible-soon-to-be Republican because of Iraq)

Lamar Alexander, a Republican Policy Guru and Party Man - he is in charge of republican party platform for the senate- and a Tennessee powerhouse, is always on every one's list.

Although well known in Washington, he's name and face are not well known to the American people. While there are others in the senate and house, Republican's want to push issues of federalism and states rights (a common theme in 2000 along with modest foreign policy), so a Governor is a likely choice.

My knowledge of governors out of my region are pretty slim.. any ideas who the Republicans, most likely, McCain will put forth.

Either way, Joe Biden will be a tough competitor, and a strong ally for whomever he ends up endorsing.

Posted by: commoncause.scott | February 3, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Biden will stay neutral untill there is a clear "winner" for the nomination. He's the strongest person for Sec. Of State no matter which Democrat wins.

Posted by: mehrenst1 | February 3, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

""CLINTON SLEEZE FATIGUE WILL INVIGORATE GOP, DISPIRIT DEMOCRATS AND SINK DEMOCRATIC TICKET""

""OBAMA/EDWARDS TO WIN""

It is possible that Senator Clinton is the best candidate. However, even though many may like the policies that Senator Clinton proposes, they should also consider her record, just as Senator Clinton insists.
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The last Clinton Administration, when faced with the fact that protection rackets where assaulting, torturing and murdering people with poison and radiation, chose to avoid its responsibilities to incarcerate the criminals and to protect the citizenry.
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Instead, they made a deal with the criminal gang stalker protection rackets to leave them alone and to consequently abandon the citizenry.
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Do we want a President who sells out the citizenry for votes?
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Do we want a President who sends a "crime does pay" message to society?
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Would you vote for a President who signed nonaggression deals with the KKKlan or the Nazi party? Gangs that torture with poison and radiation are much like the KKKlan and Nazi Party.
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We do not need a sellout President. We need a principled leader President.
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If you are one of the few who do not know what the above refers to, do a web search for "gang stalking" to see the tip of the dirtberg. Please do it before you decide to reply to my post. Here let me make it easy for you :

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22gang+stalking%22

Posted by: avraamjack | February 3, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

For those of us who supported Joe Biden 'til the end with all our hearts, we hope he reconsiders and supports Barack Obama while it still counts.

We need Democrats to unite and to keep our party safe from such goofiness as this gem, in which Hillary Clinton offers the Republicans a soundbite for the fall election.

Feb 3, 11:40 AM EST

Clinton health plan may mean tapping pay

By CHARLES BABINGTON
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton said Sunday she might be willing to garnish the wages of workers who refuse to buy health insurance to achieve coverage for all Americans.

The New York senator has criticized presidential rival Barack Obama for pushing a health plan that would not require universal coverage. Clinton has not always specified the enforcement measures she would embrace, but when pressed on ABC's "This Week," she said: "I think there are a number of mechanisms" that are possible, including "going after people's wages ..."

GOING AFTER PEOPLE'S WAGES ... THE REPUBLICANS WILL KILL THE DEMOCRATS WITH THAT KIND OF LOOSE-LIPPED LUNACY ...

Posted by: Martinedwinandersen | February 3, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe the cult mentality of people who think Obama is qualified to be president. The man has not paid his dues to this country. Nor is he qualified to be president. I don't believe a word he says, but then again, I'm not brainwashed by him, since I don't listen to his hypnotizing speeches. The people who fall for him, and vote for him, will come to regret their vote. Imagine the surprise when they find out he does nothing he says now, to push his "hope and change" meme.

And, I recently read the following, and think this is what he really is all about;

"One of Obama's early mentors in the Alinsky method was Mike Kruglik, who had this to say to an interviewer of The New Republic, about Obama:

"He was a natural, the undisputed master of agitation, who could engage a room full of recruiting targets in a rapid-fire Socratic dialogue, nudging them to admit that they were not living up to their own standards. As with the panhandler, he could be aggressive and confrontational. With probing, sometimes personal questions, he would pinpoint the source of pain in their lives, tearing down their egos just enough before dangling a carrot of hope that they could make things better."

The agitator's job, according to Alinsky, is first to bring folks to the "realization" that they are indeed miserable, that their misery is the fault of unresponsive governments or greedy corporations, then help them to bond together to demand what they deserve, and to make such an almighty stink that the dastardly governments and corporations will see imminent "self-interest" in granting whatever it is that will cause the harassment to cease.

http://www.brookesnews.com/081401obama.html

Interesting story.

Posted by: 1corona4u | February 3, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

JakeD***Thanks "junkmail" -- I was considering voting for Obama -- I even donated to his campaign, until I was banned from his blog site. I will now vote for the GOP candidate.***

Jake, you previously claimed in another thread that you've already cast your absentee ballot for Obama. You're fast losing credibility here.

Posted by: whatmeregister | February 3, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Integrity, Experience, Judgment, Leadership....all qualities that I would like to see in our next President. If only Senator Biden was still in the race, we could have all that and more.

Posted by: mjingham | February 3, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

I am wondering why Ethel Kennedy's (widow of Robert Kennedy) endorsement of Obama has received very little media coverage while her children's endorsement of Clinton was repeatedly mentioned?

Posted by: Munir1 | February 3, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Thanks "junkmail" -- I was considering voting for Obama -- I even donated to his campaign, until I was banned from his blog site. I will now vote for the GOP candidate.

Posted by: JakeD | February 3, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

After eight years of an administration that has been deceptive and ruined the trust Americans (and friends of America) have in the U.S. government, we need a President with integrity, good judgment, and leadership ability.

INTEGRITY
Senator Obama clearly outshines his opponent here. He has campaigned cleanly and honestly. He does not misrepresent his opponents' records for political gain. Rather, he spends his time convincing voters to support his candidacy because he realizes that to succeed in office he will need the popular will of the people to accomplish the substantive changes in policy that we need. You can only get such a popular mandate only by appealing to the best in people, gaining their collective and determined commitment.

Obama co-wrote landmark ethics bills that have passed in Illinois and in Washington, DC, to reduce the influence of corporate money in shaping our policies. He recognizes that too many decisions made by government have been influenced by (selfish) corporations.

EXPERIENCE
For all the chatter about "experience" and "inspiration", please note that Clinton has been in elected office for 7 years, while Obama has been in elected office for 11 years. Thus he's been writing and sponsoring legislation and working with both Parties longer than she has.

For that matter, the value of experience may be suspect, given what Clinton has posited. She has claimed on several occasions that she has "35 years of experience". That would mathematically mean, however, that she had 20 years of experience when she embarked on the 1993 plan now termed "HillaryCare", which basically died on arrival, and that she had 29 years of experience in 2002 when she voted to give W the authorization to start the Iraq War.

These two issues are the ones for which she is best known. Despite her stated years of experience, one was a wretched failure and the other was a horrible mistake. Both have hurt our troops, our economic situation, and our reputation around the world.

Meanwhile, Obama has co-sponsored several bills that have passed in the Illinois Senate and in the U.S. Senate, addressing issues from health care, crime, immigration, ethics, etc.-- he's covered a great deal of policy ground. He may be dubiously painted as the candidate with lesser experience, but he certainly has sufficient experience, and that is what matters.

JUDGMENT and LEADERSHIP
More importantly, he has exhibited superior judgment, both on the Iraq War, and on what really matters to the American people. That is why he has been so successful in combating the Clinton incumbency. I attribute his skillful campaign to his life experience and political savvy. Hillary Clinton was way, way ahead in December, with leads in the teens and twenties in every state but Illinois. Just one month later, Obama has done rather well. He beat Clinton in IA by 9%, narrowly lost to her in NH by 2%, lost to her in NV by 6%, and trounced her in SC by 28%, receiving more than double her votes in the most recently contested primary. His ability to command the respect of voters in such a short timeframe demonstrates his leadership.

True leaders inspire. Obama is a true leader.

WINNING the GENERAL ELECTION

Which brings us to the notion of electability. It is unquestioned that Clinton and her husband are polarizing figures. For all the good feelings that the Clinton administration engenders among Democrats, we should remember that the shenanigans in Clinton's second term (scandals galore) hobbled Al Gore in 2000. He had to run away from the taint (yes, unfortunately, it's true) of the Clinton administration, and as a consequence voters elected W. Yes, voters voted for W to "clean up" after the Clintons.

Clinton's campaign has tried to diminish the importance of Clinton's electability, but here again is a huge contrast between her and Senator Obama. Republicans will be engaged if she is the nominee and will be able to raise large sums of money from people, threatening the Democrats' chances in the general election.

Meanwhile, it is well-known that independents and (moderate) Republicans have been flocking to Obama's campaign. I know this is true from talking with people, and you can confirm, if you wish, by checking polls. Obama is not simply obtaining support from Democrats, he's getting support from everybody. Witness that 650,000 of us hoi polloi have donated to his campaign. This presages well for his winning in November.

It should have been easy for Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Claire McCaskill, Janet Napolitano, etc. to back Clinton-- she should have been a shoe-in. Instead they decided to support the future of the Party.

The question is not whether you should pick Obama or Clinton, but only at what time will you decide that Obama is the right choice for you and for the American people.

GO OUT AND VOTE FOR SENATOR OBAMA, THE QUALIFIED CANDIDATE AND THE RIGHT CANDIDATE.

Posted by: junkmail | February 3, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD | February 3, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

But I thought that Biden agreed Obama was a "clean" African-American?

Posted by: JakeD | February 3, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

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