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Democrats Plan to Complain to FEC About McCain

Updated: 5:05 p.m.
By Matthew Mosk
The Democratic National Committee will file a complaint Monday with the Federal Election Commission, alleging that Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) has illegally blown through spending limits imposed by the presidential public financing system.

"This is a classic example of someone who talks one way and does the other," DNC Chairman Howard Dean said today. "Our purpose here is to get him to obey the law."

Alex Conant, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, replied that Dean lacked credibility on the issue, while McCain spokesman Brian Rogers noted that Dean withdrew from the public financing system during his bid for president four years ago.

"Howard Dean's hypocrisy is breathtaking, given that in 2003 he withdrew from the matching funds system in exactly the same way that John McCain is doing today," he said.

The complaint is based on a dispute between McCain, who appears headed toward his party's nomination for president, and the FEC, which notified him last week that it had not approved his request to withdraw from the public funding system.

McCain had applied for public funds last year when his campaign was running on fumes. After he won a series of early primaries, he requested to withdraw from the system. The FEC typically permits candidates to withdraw if they have not spent any of the public matching funds, or have not used the promise of federal money to obtain a loan.

The DNC plans to argue that McCain did obtain a loan based on the promise of repaying it with federal funds, party attorney Joe Sandler said. The Democrats also plan to claim that McCain cannot withdraw from the public financing system without the FEC taking up the matter; the commission made that contention itself in its letter to McCain. The FEC has been unable to consider McCain's request because it lacks a quorum. (Congress is deadlocked over the confirmation of four appointees to the six-member commission.)

McCain's advisers have so far brushed off the FEC's concerns, noting that the lack of a quorum means the FEC chairman's letter carries no weight. But the Democrats' complaint could increase the pressure on McCain to respond to the matter.

If McCain is forced to remain in the federal funding program, it could prove an extremely unwelcome development for him. He would be limited to spending $54 million during the primary season, which ends at the Republican Party convention in September. He had already spent $49 million by the end of January.

One key difference between Dean's experience and McCain's is the unresolved question of whether McCain used the promise of federal money to secure $1 million just before heading into the key early primaries.

"The McCain campaign has incorrectly stated that McCain is doing what Dean did when he withdrew from public financing in his presidential bid, but they have the facts wrong," a DNC spokesman said in a statement. "Dean did not use the promise of matching funds as collateral for a loan. Dean withdrew before the FEC determined eligibility for funds, unlike McCain. And he spent millions of dollars to get his name on the ballot after withdrawing, unlike McCain, who had free ballot access in many states because he pledged to accept matching funds."

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Good...McShame and his straight talk express bus needs to be investigated upon. I could care less if he sleeps with Hillary Clinton but if his straight talk is contradicting and he is supporting lobbyist and writing letters for special interest groups...then the American people have a right to know...I say investigate him just like you would investigate any other candidate....

Posted by: YesweCan1 | February 25, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Regarding: Keesvan - Good job sneering at someone else but unfortunately that was not a run-on sentence. Wait I forgot that you are superior to everyone else, sorry I said anything.
studiocatz - You are a moron.
Sir, I may well be a moron, but I do know a run-on sentence when I see one.

"You got me, when I want a true intellectual I look to conservatives like President Bush."

"You got me" is a sentence. The rest of the text is also a stand-alone sentence. When two sentences are presented as one sentence without the use of a semicolon, you've got your classic run-on sentence.

Again, I won't argue I'm not a moron. But I do believe that you are incorrect about English grammar.

Best Regards.

Posted by: Keesvan | February 25, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Chakma,

Bill Clinton, liberal?
'Twas a matter of the same interests that wholly own the Republican Party having only an 85% share in that president. I remember the time period well enough without your half-literate recitation of long dead talking points. I remember NAFTA, Seattle, the gutting of a social safety net that had served the country well for decades & a congress (much like the minority party last week) that walked out on the job.

Posted by: euthyfro | February 25, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

david_l_green, get your facts in order before you start accusing people of hypocrisy.

McCain and Obama have BOTH committed, on the record, to use the public financing for the GENERAL ELECTION. Neither had committed to it for the primary election. They are two completely separate things.

Candidates can choose to forgo public financing in the primaries and still use it for the general election, as both Kerry and Bush did in 2004.

McCain never made a pledge that he would or wouldn't agree to public financing during the primary, but made a very specific pledge that he would agree to it for the general. As did Senator Obama. Senator Obama now seems to be waving on his pledge. The NYT article you linked to concers McCain taking Obama to task for his waffling on public financing for the GENERAL election.

For more about this, here's a good article:

http://online.wsj.com/article/potomac_watch.html

It's not a great idea to be so inflammatory when you don't know what you're talking about.

Posted by: chastowery | February 25, 2008 2:11 AM | Report abuse

david_l_green, get your facts in order before you start accusing people of hypocrisy.

McCain and Obama have BOTH committed, on the record, to use the public financing for the GENERAL ELECTION. Neither had committed to it for the primary election. They are two completely separate things.

Candidates can choose to forgo public financing in the primaries and still use it for the general election, as both Kerry and Bush did in 2004.

McCain never made a pledge that he would or wouldn't agree to public financing during the primary, but made a very specific pledge that he would agree to it for the general. As did Senator Obama. Senator Obama now seems to be waving on his pledge. The NYT article you linked to concers McCain taking Obama to task for his waffling on public financing for the GENERAL election.

For more about this, here's a good article:

http://online.wsj.com/article/potomac_watch.html

It's not a great idea to be so inflammatory when you don't know what you're talking about.

Posted by: chastowery | February 25, 2008 2:06 AM | Report abuse

McCain's FEC Problems:
1.) A footnote: "3 The certification of funds must not be pledged as security for private financing." This means he cannot withdraw. Also, if this footnote did not apply he would have to obtain permission to do so, albeit routine.

2.)Von Spakovsky in combo with the Republican Senators is the second problem; most likely this crew will blink,Von Spakovsky is not worth it! The down ballot races come into play! This would resolve the quorum issue, but not McCain's problems.

3.) McCain the straight shooter forever tainted. Short term disaster, long term slap with major financial penalty, severely lessened chances in general election; the public slime tolerance has long been reached.

4.)Forget about any agreement with Obama; suspect his team has an aversion to hemlock.

5. Republican will run with the speed of light away from this one; the F.E.C. may defer a final decision until after the election but not overturn the existing rules. In short as one noted his folks were to smart by one half; at best he is a one term lame duck president, and at worst he leaves the Senate in disgrace.

Posted by: ADLEED | February 25, 2008 12:58 AM | Report abuse

McCain Hypocrite!

Last week John McCain was calling for Barack Obama to stick to his pledge to use public financing in the general election.

McCain Calls for Obama to Use Public Financing (February 15, 2008)

"It was very clear to me that Senator Obama had agreed to having public financing of the general election campaign if I did the same thing," he said after a town hall meeting here.

"I made the commitment to the American people that if I was the nominee of my party, I would go the route of public financing. I expect Senator Obama to keep his word to the American people as well."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/15/us/politics/15cnd-campaign.html?hp

That was last week, (not 6 months ago, but last week!)...

McCain didn't just make statements of his intention to use the public financing program for the primary election, but in fact enrolled into the system. Now McCain wants to withdraw from the primary matching fund system. (even after benefiting from the program). The only problem is now he can't leave the program, because he needs the FEC's permission to do so.

So, I guess that means that McCain was for public financing, before he was against it, but still thinks it applies Obama who was never in the program, but not to himself who is in the program. Hmmm.

Weather or not the FEC can enforce this law should be left to Dean and company. The order of the day for Democrats and the media is to label McCain a Flip/Flopper and highlite his hypocracy, and hold him up to his own pledge to the American people (and the FEC).

Posted by: david_l_green | February 25, 2008 12:41 AM | Report abuse

I think it would be really funny if an editorial cartoonist did up the Straight Talk Express like a NASCAR car with all the sponsors logos on it.

Posted by: gauge75 | February 25, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

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If you think this isn't a dictatorship , what does it take to prove it.

Bush, Corporations , the military and the republicans are doing every d... thing they wish. The constitution , bill of rights ,laws and our country programs means nothing to them.

Posted by: Sport2069 | February 24, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Two years ago, Howard Dean did more than anyone to help get Democrats elected on all levels and in all states.

Canada even recognized him for that. They noticeably left out the names of Rahm Emmanuel and Sen. Schumer of NY. Those two guys just thwarted primaries by forcing competing Democrats out of races, thus denying democracy to millions of voters.

But now, Howard Dean stands ready to help win the Presidency.

GO HOWARD DEAN!!!

If Obama picked Dean as his VP running mate, any voter who would have voted for Nader would switch their vote to Obama/Dean 08.

Posted by: kevinschmidt | February 24, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

DCer1, take a closer look at those polls.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/national.html

And since you are such a lover of Washington DC politicians who give tax-payer funded handouts to big business, why don't we do a roll call of some of John McCain's buddies.

(Some of these folks are working for free too for McCain, because they just love the guy so much):

His campaign manager, Rick Davis, co-founded a lobbying firm whose clients have included Verizon and SBC Telecommunications.

His chief political adviser, Charles R. Black Jr., is chairman of one of Washington's lobbying powerhouses, BKSH and Associates, which has represented AT&T, Alcoa, JPMorgan and U.S. Airways.

Senior advisers Steve Schmidt and Mark McKinnon work for firms that have lobbied for Land O' Lakes, UST Public Affairs, Dell and Fannie Mae.

McCain recently hired Mark Buse to be his Senate chief of staff. Buse led the Commerce Committee staff in the late 1990s and early 2000s, and was until last fall a lobbyist for ML Strategies, representing eBay, Goldman Sachs Group, Cablevision, Tenneco and Novartis Pharmaceuticals.

McCain's top fundraising official is former congressman Tom Loeffler (R-Tex.), who heads a lobbying law firm called the Loeffler Group. He has counseled the Saudis as well as Southwest Airlines, AT&T, Toyota and the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America.

Posted by: JPRS | February 24, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

With McCain trying to wriggle out of public financing, cynically gaming the system he's supposed to have reformed, and even using taxpayers' money as collateral for private loans, there's no way Obama should accept public financing now.

The slippery McCain would find some sneaky way to get extra money in through 527s or some other loophole. Anyway, McCain is the one with the record number of lobbyists hanging around. Obama's funds really are 90% from small online donors. He doesn't need to reform his act - he's not dirty like McLobby.

So Obama will have vastly more funds for the election. It's not his fault nobody wants to give to the GOP after seven years of lies, stupidity, corruption, hubris and incompetence.

Posted by: kevrobb | February 24, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

You liberals have very short memory.
1. Do you remember what your famous president Bill Clinton did while in the white house?

2. Do you liberals remember how your famous president pardon so many people without getting any recommendation from the Justice Department?

3. Do you liberals remember how your famous president Clinton used the Lincoln bedroom?

4. Do you liberals remember how your famous president conjures the Monica intern?

5. You liberals do not have any shame at all. You talk about Howard Dean? He is the most idiot person the democratic party has selected to run the surrender party?

6. Do you liberals remember that your famous president Clinton's justice department did not want to appoint the independent prosecutor even though the FBI director asked her to do so?

7. You liberals do not shame at all. And you liberals talked about Justice Department?

8. You liberals indeed have very short memory about the Janet Reno's justice department?

That's all I have to say about you liberals.

Posted by: chakma | February 24, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

This reptilian should be exposed for all the crimes he is committing against the American people, and also for all the cover-ups that he's keeping a lid on. This might either be for his longevity or fear of exposing himself for his deep involvement with the Abramoff scandal. He's a totally corrupt piece of work, even the people in AZ are on to him. He looks mean, talks mean, and yes he's your regular bomb dropping military hero. Some straight-talker "my friends." His voice alone is scary. If he gets in you'll be able to stick a fork in America, we'll be done.

Posted by: sicnarfe | February 24, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

It is all too typical for a Republican like McCain to behave as if he is above the law. It is doubly typical for their supporters, in this case his campaign spokesman, to respond with third-grade retorts such as "Well, you did it too, so nyaah, I don't have to either." (The facts don't support the charge against Dean, but it's the usual counter -- slime the person pointing out your criminal behavior.) And even more typical that the McCain campaign isn't worried about complying with the law because, well, there isn't an FEC quorum, so no one can actually enforce the laws McCain is breaking.

No one is attacking McCain's military service to his country, contrary to the equally ridiculous comments made by some of the responders above. What I, and others, are questioning is his "service" after his tour of duty. He is as corrupt and venal as his fellow Republicans. This is indeed the party of Nixon and Bush -- anti-democracy, anti-law, anti-American.

Posted by: BlackMax23 | February 24, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Whatever troubles McCain may face with the FEC, at least he doesn't have to worry about what happens if a Democrat wins the White House, cleans the scum out of the Justice Department, and begins prosecuting Bush Administration officials for war crimes.

Posted by: lydgate | February 24, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Boy, the left is absolutely terrified of McCain and are going all out to try and stop. First, the NY Times and Wash Post drive-by hit jobs (debunked for the trash they are and peddle). Now, the DNC is engaging in collateral attacks with the hopes of denying McCain the ability to get his message out.

I guess the libbies and commies everywhere have seen recent polls showing McCain leading Obama and Clinton nationally and very close in some traditional blue states. All this talk about how motivated the moronic lefties are, and they can't even mount a lead against McCain. It is even more remarkable when you consider the general election hasn't event started yet! Just wait until McCain Osama as the extreme leftist pig that he is. Add Nader's entry to the mix and you have a recipe for a McCain blowout of HillBilly or Osama in November. Let's hope this plays out and the Dems are kept out of the WH yet again. America will be a much better (and decent) country as a result.

Posted by: DCer1 | February 24, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse


"fordcrml" wrote :
"I get such a kick out of the lefties in this Country that consider military service to be stain on an individual. Senator McCain (please use the title he is deserving of)spent 5 1/2 years in hell. Probable the worst that has happened to the previous writers is a writing cramp."

to which I reply:
Why the hell would being in prison make Mc Cain a qualified president? How would it prevent him from being, like the the bulk of his Republican brethren, a crook? Where is the rational connection? Being tortured makes you a good guy? Being tortured makes you honest and capable? What kind of twisted logic is that? Got to go now, my carpal tunnel is acting up...

Posted by: waldengreenwood | February 24, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

You liberals who hate anything decent and support anything vacuous need to use your spell checkers. Clearly you were in detention when English was taught. Other than your support for the extreme left, your spelling is the other sign of your intellectual shortcomings.
--LarryG62
_________________

Rewrite to eliminate the redundant "other" in your third sentence. "Support anything vacuous" is murky, verging on nonsensical, and, well, vacuous. Consider a rewrite there as well.

Your punctuation and spelling are coming along well. Keep working on style; you'll do fine.

Posted by: dsk61 | February 24, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Ah, Howard Dean. Very clever. Although it's kind of like kicking a dead horse, because I really don't see how McCain is going to raise much money in the general election anyway...

I suppose it needs to be done at any rate. Just cause the campaign was falling so much in the beginning is no excuse to break the rules - if those are the rules (I'd like to hear the FEC comment on it).

Posted by: grimmix | February 24, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

mnjam:

Yeah, experience is really valuable in Washington huh...do names Cheney and Rumsfeld ring a bell to you mnjam?
They had more experience than anyone and look at our country today!

Posted by: steffanyshelton | February 24, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Regarding Larryg82 comments about spelling and intellect, this is the same sorry old tactic of the Republicans. If you can't attack the argument, attack the person. I think most people understand this tactic to be that of the coward and certainly not that of the intellectual.

Posted by: Arny | February 24, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

They break the law. Then attack the opponents.

Isn't this a typical Bush-Cheney pattern?

Now McCain(Bush) and RNC -- they break the law and attack DNC Chair?? Did Dean break the law as McCain did??

IF you obtain the loan with Federal fund as guaranttee, THEN you may not widthraw.

Break the law and turn around and blame the other side.

Posted by: pmcsnim | February 24, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Keesvan - Good job sneering at someone else but unfortunately that was not a run-on sentence. Wait I forgot that you are superior to everyone else, sorry I said anything.

studiocatz - You are a moron.

Posted by: morning135 | February 24, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Let's see, the FEC can't vote on a GOP candidates request to withdraw from federal funds because the Democratic's in control of congress are holding up 4 positions on the commission. And McCain is the bad guy here?

How about this, confirm the four nominees, and then let the Commission make a decision.

Posted by: CrazyPolitico | February 24, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

stan2 - Funniest comment I've read in awhile!

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | February 24, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

I believe Magoo sponsored or supported the arcane rules of the FEC. Now, they're coming back to haunt him. Undoubtedly he'll get tripped up later on by the Magoo-Feingold Campaign Finance Law he co-authored. The only thing I can recommend now is he take humor lessons from Huckleberry and the sooner the better.

Posted by: filoporquequilo | February 24, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Let's not forget, John McCain has more years in the senate than both Hill-or-Ree and O'Bama COMBINED. Neither one of them have any real-world experience at all.
Posted by: studiocatz | February 24, 2008 06:48 PM
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You think the Senate is the "real world?"

Posted by: mnjam | February 24, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

joy2 you are an IDIOT of the highest caliber when you blame the FEC lack of quorum on OBAMA.

You say that OBAMA put a hold on one of the republican nominees. How nice of you to leave out the name of the nominee that he and Feingold both put a hold on from being part of the FEC. The name joy2 is Von Spakovsky! An unethical lying dirt bag! Why don't you post FACTS joy2 instead of lies? I wouldnt want a vote frauder to be part of the FEC either and I'm glad that Obama and Feingold BOTH not just Obama decided not to accept Bush's appt of the evil dirt bag. Go home joy2 and wallow in your stupidity!

The FEC is without a quorum because of a fight between Senate Democrats (led by Obama and Sen. Feingold) and Republicans over President Bush's nomination of Hans von Spakovsky to the FEC. Von Spakovsky, was one of the administration's "voter fraud warriors" responsible for, among other things, approving Texas's controversial mid-decade redistricting and Georgia's photo identification law for voting. In retaliation for Obama and Feingold's hold on von Spakovsky's nomination, the Republican leadership put three other nominations on hold

Posted by: steffanyshelton | February 24, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

This is the grate candidate. The same that can violate any law in the name of his feith in power. Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran is only a prelude of what this puppet of the lobbysts will be able to do to keep open the safe of the American people, in benefice o Halliburton and other parts of the machine that govern America. I will vote Mackain: I want the third war world now!

Posted by: alberto_burgos22 | February 24, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Well, this IS divine intervention. I guess Huckabee will be the nominee after all!

Posted by: thebobbob | February 24, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Dear rer2174,

Thank God!!! I was beginning to think that no-one would ever spot them. Good eye! No need to forgive, was quite intentional.

Posted by: jbottensek | February 24, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Uu oh! the Democrats never thought that the Republicans could come up with someone like McCain. Their internal polling must be telling them they are in trouble for the run to the White House. Why else the hysteria.

Posted by: Ethicist | February 24, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Jbottensek,

You seem to put so much emphasis on correct use of grammar and correct spelling. I'm certain that a substantial portion of those writing comments make typographical errors, have other things better to do than correct errors. I'm sure you overlooked several words you have mispelled such as its instead of it's, through instead of throw, punctuation instead of puncuation, and merely instead of mearly. But we forgive you.

Posted by: rer2174 | February 24, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

You liberals who hate anything decent and support anything vacuous need to use your spell checkers. Clearly you were in detention when English was taught. Other than your support for the extreme left, your spelling is the other sign of your intellectual shortcomings.

Posted by: LarryG62 | February 24, 2008 04:59 PM
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Hey Intellect, shove your spell checker up as far as it will go and then push hard!

Posted by: harried | February 24, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Posted by Posted by: Maddogg | February 24, 2008 05:48 PM
You got me, when I want a true intellectual I look to conservatives like President Bush. What are the going to put in his presidential library? Spiderman comics and back issues of Playboy?

Perhaps you had a stomach ache the day your English teach taught run-on sentences. The first sentence of a paragraph should have punch, not bad grammar. However, I do agree with your comment regarding spell checkers.
Regards,
K

Posted by: Keesvan | February 24, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Excu-u-u-u-ussse ME?!?!?!

What the...has any left-wing communist liberal here considered that their precious Hill-or-Ree Clitman has over ONE MILLION DOLLARS in campaign fraud that we actually KNOW ABOUT SO FAR?!?!?!

The FEC should be investigating HER, not the honorable Senator McCain.


Let's not forget, John McCain has more years in the senate than both Hill-or-Ree and O'Bama COMBINED. Neither one of them have any real-world experience at all.

Posted by: studiocatz | February 24, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

I predict that McCain will find a way to skirt the rules and the media (including Washington Post) will ignore or minimize the story.
The real story is that McCain has arms that are entirely too short for his body.

Posted by: fishingriver | February 24, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

McCain is the ultimate hypocrite.

He is another phony conservative who while married to his first wife, started an afair with Cindy the blond angel! That should certainly make them both real conservatives in the eyes of the evangelists!!!... Cindy knows that if our straight talking Mc can cheat with her, he is quite capable of cheating on her...Perhaps WoPo should speak with his first wife and see how she feels about all this fun stuff!!!

The Keating 5 fisaco is the stongest case against him and must be revisited to get the facts out before the general election... The use of lobbyists free of charge is a more serious case than the press has been advocating!!! Since when these guys work for free... We need to add their compensation by their employers to his campagin contibutions (the financial/accounting term is "in kind contributions").

As far as a mate, sorry, a running mate is concerned, Iseman will make a pretty good case for VP after seeing uncle Dick give us that phony smile for the past 8 years!!

Nation; if you were disgusted by the GW's neocons, wait till we face the neofascists in the McCain-Iseman administration!!!

Posted by: azarm04 | February 24, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

That old S.O.B does not believe in Laws or the Constitution or he would not have been giving Amnesty to 20 Millions serious Criminals. Hope the old Senile piece of feces gets fined and 5 year prison term!

Posted by: american1 | February 24, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

As they used to say about Bill C, "When's the next bimbo eruption?"

Posted by: kinoworks | February 24, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

McCain has 59 lobbyists bundling his money for him in this campaign. Clinton has something like 20. Obama has Zero.

Obama has almost 1,000,000 donors to his campaign. People who are giving him $25 to $100 contribs.

No politician in Washington is clean, but some are dirty than others.

McCain's actions during the Keating 5 scandal gave aid and comfort to a criminal who defrauded hundreds of ordinary Americans of their savings. Billions of tax payer dollars had to be doled out to help overcome the S&L crisis and the impact of the crisis triggered a recession which cost tens of thousands of hard working Americans their jobs.

McCain claims that he has "changed" but, unlike Obama, he's turned over the day to day operation of his business to a former telecom lobbyist.

If voters want to elect the Washington DC lobbyists choice in this election they have a clear choice in McCain. That might not have been as true when he ran in 2000, but it couldn't be more true in 2008. All that it takes is two "R" to spell "corrupt".

If voters like having lobbyists run their White House there is no better choice in this election than the Straight Talker.

Posted by: JPRS | February 24, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

To bapatriot,

Are you kidding me? War for oil? I really thought that $3.00+ a gallon gas would finally put that cheap, worn out moniker to rest. Where on Earth do you people get these bogus, jaundiced viewpoints from?

I am saddened by the depths to which the Liberal Left has taken the misinformed like you, through a perverted media.

The change you all want to embrace will enslave us all to Socialism...mark my words.

Posted by: jbottensek | February 24, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like McCain is getting his legal advice from Gonzo. No matter what kind of good guy Mc might be now, the republican slime that run that party at the national level will destroy whatever credibility he has left. Look at what they did to Colin Powell! Guess they figure if they can get general P to take a bunch of cartoons and 10 yr old videos to the UN and spin that BS about Sadaam and all his wmd's they can easily manipulate a guy who couldn't avoid capture by the enemy! The bright side?! Even a POW has got to be better than a 4yr captain cheerleadin' deserter and a draft dodger! McCain's got Bush and Cheney's profiteering corporate war criminals convinced that he'll keep this oil war for fun and profit going for the next 100 years if they want him to. That's all that crew needed to hear and they sure turned things right around for him. Huckabee might have gotten their support if he had only agreed to accept Gonzo and Cheney's version of the Bible, you know, the translation in which the part about doing unto others as you would have them do unto you has been revised and replaced by the Bush Doctrine: If you think someone might one day be able to hurt you, you have a perfect God-given right to take them out! The gospel according to the apostles Dick and George! What a manly republican version of that wimpy old Golden Rule that Jesus taught! Yep, old Mike is probably kicking himself over sticking to the old KJV.

Posted by: bapatriot | February 24, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

The loan in question apparently contained the following clause:

"Additional Requirement. Borrower and lender agree that if Borrower [McCain's campaign committee] withdraws from the public matching funds program, but John McCain then does not win the next primary or caucus in which he is active (which can be any primary or caucus held the same day) or does not place at least within 10 percentage points of the winner of that primary or caucus, Borrower will cause John McCain to remain an active political candidate and Borrower will, within thirty (3) days of said primary or caucus (i) reapply for public matching funds, (ii) grant to Lender, as additional collateral for the Loan, a first priority perfected security interest in and to all Borrower's right, title and interest in and to the public matching funds program, and (iii) execute and deliver to Lender such documents, instruments and agreements as Lender may require with respect to the foregoing."

I asked transactional lawyers to comment Wednesday at "the Fix" on the apparent unenforceability of this clause, except by call of the loan when it was due.

Now I ask election law specialists how this can be construed as a pledge of an interest in a current matching fund.

Is that in fact, the test under the FEC?
Has the FEC language ever been the subject of a legal opinion?

My [wild] guess is that the language in the loan agreement, is unenforceable in equity, and is NOT a pledge of federal funds under the FEC.

Further, the FEC never enforces beyond a hand slap, so the technicality that no quorum exits to accept McC's withdrawal of the request for Fed funding will eventually be excused, as it should be.
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That will leave the issue of whether or not BHO will recommit to his pledge to take fed financing for the GE, if McC does.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | February 24, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama doesn't need public financing. He has the Crown family, and the BILLIONS their company (General Dynamics) has made profiteering off the War on Terror, to finance his campaign. They are among his best contributors. Wake up America, he talks the talk . . . but sure don't walk the walk

Posted by: jaywpat | February 24, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

To JPRS,

So did you go to school with ronaldtennillegeorgia1???

Name one Senator or House member that doesn't sit down with and get contributions from lobbyist! What do you think these people do all day? Hang with their constituents?

Wise up buddy...

Posted by: jbottensek | February 24, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Hey ronaldtennillegeorgia1;

I suppose you believe that Kennedy, Hitler and Elvis are alive and well in Argentina too?

Where do you get such dim witted info? National Inquirer? Your lack of proper sentence structure, CAPITALIZATION and puncuation proves further the failure of our nation's schools. Furthermore, it proves P.T. Barnum's theory that, "You can fool some of the people of the time".

Scary to think people like you are allowed to vote.

Posted by: jbottensek | February 24, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, and violating those spending limits is a violation of civil and CRIMINAL laws is not not?

McCain got a get out of jail free card with the Keating 5 scandal thanks to his time in the Hanoi Hilton. People felt sorry for Maverick.

The guy clearly though has learned nothing. The fact that he surrounds himself with lobbyists, gets wads of money from these lobbyists, and crafts legislation that is favorable to these lobbyists interests (cruise ship industry, telecom, cable and TV owners) -- tells the story on the so-called Straight Talk Express.

The only people who get straight talk from McCain are the lobbyists who run and fund his campaign.

Posted by: JPRS | February 24, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

To joy2:

Heh, that's a pretty one-sided view of the reason that the Senate is "deadlocked". Here is another take on that issue:

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-171610937.html

Let's not forget that von Spakovsky had already been serving for nearly 2 years as an FEC commissioner by the time that Senator Obama formally registered his objections to him. Also, the objections had nothing to do with von Spakovsky's service on the FEC nor with any matter than would have been within his purview as an FEC commissioner.

In any case, whatever one's view of what is causing the "deadlock" on the FEC nominations, the fact that the very person who will likely be the Democratic Party's nominee in August to run against Senator McCain has a prominent role in denying the FEC the quorum that it needs to rule on the complaint that the DEMOCRATIC PARTY is bringing against Senator McCain needs to be noted.

Posted by: chastowery | February 24, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

people need to look beyond the keating five, they need to look at his father-in-law jim hensley a twice convicted felon.the arizona report should be read by all covering kemper marley the organized crime figure that's connected to cindy mccain father jim hensley.mr.mccain wants people to think of him as a man of high standards and morals.why did he seperate from his first wife who was paralyzed in a car accident while he was a pow.this woman was paralyzed and fought vigorously to try to get her husband freed while he was a pow.after being released as a pow he returned to active duty and sought a high level position in washington d.c.leaving his wife and three children behind.while in D.C. he was a noted womanizer and violating military code of conduct by fraternizing with lower rank military personnel.mr.mccain has a lot of things to explain in regards to his behavior.i really can't see him attempting to "swift boat" anyone with all the baggage and underworld connections he has. in addition his trophy wife has a record with the DEA for her stealing drugs from a charitable organization she oversaw.this is alleged to have covered the period beginning in '88 through the early '90's.the only reason she came forward was because the press was about to break the story.honest john told her to break the story first and swears he was not aware of her addiction.the story the new york times broke,i have no doubt he's guilty.the problem with the nyt is that they held onto this story too long and now honest john is trying to play that the nyt is irresponsible in their reporting and is bias.had the nyt broke this story prior to the primaries he probably would not be the republican nominee.romney should be furious with the nyt for holding the story.

Posted by: ronaldtennillegeorgia1 | February 24, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Howard Dean should worry more about how the party is going to fix the Michigan and Flordia mess. The party should have allowed the states half the delegates like the Republicans. I just don't understand what the Democratic leadership was thinking by ticking off democrat voters in two of the most major states in the Presidential election.

Posted by: badger3 | February 24, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Repiglicans??? How coy...I've voted Dem, Repub, Indy...whoever I feel has the best qualities. Since '04 I've become increasingly frustrated with the Dems though...too many whiny, lie ridden SOB's like Howard Dean and Commies like Obama. These pukes will say and do anything to grab power. I'm not a big fan of McCain, BUT the more horse s**t that the Dems through at him, the less credible they become.

I think that the term Liberal is mearly a politically correct code word for Pandering Malcontent Socialist...Hate mongers all of them....so, if the right is fashioned from rePIGlicans, I guess its only fitting that the left is full of DUMBocrats.

Posted by: jbottensek | February 24, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Dear LarryG62:
I kommend u on yur spelling, but u kneed two chek ur grammer.

"You liberals who hate anything decent and support anything vacuous need to use your spell checkers. Clearly you were in detention when English was taught. Other than your support for the extreme left, your spelling is the other sign of your intellectual shortcomings."


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Posted by: stan2 | February 24, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

It's obvious Senator Mccain has no regards for high ethics. Just look at his campaign. Filled with lobbyists, making it a lobbyist pit.

Here's a man that sponsored campaign finance reform being charged with violating the very tenents of the laws he helped create. Let's hope the charges are false. We await what the Senator has to say.

Posted by: Maddogg | February 24, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse


So he's exceeded spending limits.

And the Party which doesn't give two figs for anybody's rules, regulations, constitutions, traditions, treaties or gentlemen's agreements would be . . . ?

Oh yeah, HIS Party, the God Of Pennies party.

And does he even LOOK as if he cares?

Posted by: wardropper | February 24, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

McCain would likely have a problem getting out of public fincancing if he used it as collateral for a loan, but with the FEC unavailable to provide a ruling, it's unfair to pin him down on the matter at this point.

I support Obama. Let's raise the level of discussion.

Posted by: MShaughn | February 24, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

It must be a world of hurt for Republicans these days.

Posted by: PutDownTheKoolaid | February 24, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Thank you Hillary and Bill for this last dirty trick against John McCain before you bow out.

I can't personally bring myself to stretch the truth like y'all do so thanks for the going away gift.

-Barak Hussein Obama_

Posted by: msmithnv | February 24, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Poor Howard Dean he must be in need of another Ben & Jerry fix. As a lifelong democrat I would like to suggest that the DNC send Howard back to Vermont.

Posted by: Belgay | February 24, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Come on now, I hardly think McCain intentionally did anything shady regarding funding. I won't vote for him, but it won't be because of this BS. Campaign financing is an arcane issue.

Liberals: Grow up and stop being insulting. Seriously, calling people "epiglicans?" Wow, how inspiring.

Conservatives: STFU as well. All the name calling only alienates Independents

Posted by: eor11 | February 24, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

"Funny that the author fails to mention that the reason the Senate is "deadlocked" on the FEC nominations is that BARAK OBAMA has placed a hold on one of the Republican nominees. The Republicans then put a reciprocal hold on the Democratic nominees (the FEC should have 3 Republican and 3 Democratic commissioners) and that is the reason for the "deadlock"."

Umm. Seems like putting a hold on ONE nominee isn't what's preventing a quorum. You act like it "just makes sense" that the republicans put holds on all three democratic nominees in response (Huh?). If republicans had just put a hold on one in their tit for tat, there'd be a quorum (4).

I wonder if Obama acted on principle rather than silly childishness of tit for tat as you portray the republican's doing?
Hey what a concept!

On the other hand, the DNC actions don't seem all that helpful here. Sounds like they are following the republican playbook.

Posted by: fdurgin1 | February 24, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

P.S. Won't it be great to have President Obama looking out for our rights! Just think, a president who actually taught Constitutional Law and was a Civil Rights attorney. Lately, I've been wondering of some of our elected officials have ever read the U.S. Constitution.

Posted by: joy2 | February 24, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

LarryG62 wrote:
You liberals ... your spelling is the other sign of your intellectual shortcomings.
_________________________________________

You got me, when I want a true intellectual I look to conservatives like President Bush. What are the going to put in his presidential library? Spiderman comics and back issues of Playboy?

Posted by: MarcMyWords | February 24, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

"I get such a kick out of the lefties in this Country that consider military service to be stain on an individual."

Come now -- have you no memory of the way the right chewed John Kerry apart over his service? They were actually able to hold it against him, in contrast to the war-dodging airman-in-hiding George Bush. This is political hypocracy at its finest.

Posted by: robt | February 24, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

chastowery
Yes, it's true that Obama, Feingold, and other senators asked for a separate vote on Bush's guy Von Spakovsky. Here are the details for anyone interested:

The Controversy over the Von Spakovsky nomination

The controversy that is at the center of the delay in the Senate confirmation of the four FEC nominees involves the nomination of recess appointee Hans Von Spakovsky to serve a full term on the Commission.

Prior to serving on the FEC, Von Spakovsky served in the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice and was involved in overseeing the Voting Rights section.

Senators Russell Feingold (D-WI) and Barack Obama (D-IL) took the lead in the Senate in opposing the confirmation of Von Spakovsky based on his Justice Department performance on voting rights issues. They were joined by a number of other Senators in putting a hold on any vote on Von Spakovsky's nomination.

The opposition to Von Spakovsky also included five former attorneys in the Justice Department's Voting Rights section, including a former Chief and Deputy Chief of the Voting Section. They charged in letters to the Senate Rules Committee that Von Spakovsky ''played a major role in implementation of practices which injected partisan political factors into decision-making on enforcement matters and into the hiring process,'' and also that he made efforts to intimate career staff.

The former Justice Department attorneys further charged that Von Spakovsky was the ''point person for undermining the Civil Rights Division's mandate to protect voting rights.'' They challenged, in particular, the role he played in the Department's review of a Georgia voter identification law in 2005, and pre-clearance of a Texas redistricting plan in 2003.

Strong opposition to Von Spakovsky also came from civil rights groups, including the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights, the NAACP and MALDEF, and from campaign finance reform groups.

McConnell Blocks Confirmation Vote on December 19

On December 19, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) proposed that the Senate have up-or-down majority votes on each of the four pending FEC nominees.

In so doing, Senator Reid offered Senator McConnell and the Senate Republicans the normal majority vote process for confirmation votes. He also showed that he had eliminated on the Democratic side the holds on voting on Von Spakovsky's nomination and any demands for 60 votes to confirm him.

But a majority up-or-down vote on Von Spakovsky was not enough for Senator McConnell. Apparently concerned that a majority of the Senate was not prepared to vote for Von Spakovsky, McConnell rejected the vote on Von Spakovsky and blocked the Senate from voting on the other three FEC nominees as well.

As Senator Reid stated on the Senate floor on December 19, ''facing possible defeat for their own nominee, the Republicans would prefer to hold the remaining 3 unobjectionable nominees hostage and render the FEC unable to function in the next election.''

Senator McConnell's position is that all four nominees must be confirmed together or else none will be confirmed.

''In rejecting a straight up-or-down vote on FEC nominee von Spakovsky, Senator McConnell is holding the other three FEC nominees and the country hostage at the direct expense of the integrity of our political system,'' Wertheimer stated.

''Senator McConnell wants Von Spakovsky carried to the FEC on the backs of the other three nominees, without having to bother with a Senate vote that Von Spakovsky might lose,'' Wertheimer said.

''This effort by Senator McConnell is anti-democratic, political blackmail and must be rejected,'' Wertheimer said.

Posted by: joy2 | February 24, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

As politicians go, I suppose McCain might be considered relatively honest, though this is no great recommendation of probity. Mark Twain, after all, identified congress (correctly, it appears) as America's only distinctively criminal class.

Posted by: pds3019 | February 24, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Did you ever notice the resemblence of Mccains' wife to the "Crypt Keeper" while she stands beside him at denial conferences?

Posted by: zephyrman | February 24, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Senator McCain still continues to ignore the laws of this land and do whatever he pleases.

Senator McCain's inproper behavior, shady back room deals and illegal actions go all the way back to when Senator Goldwater was in office.

Anyone that wants to know more about this man's maverick character needs to only look back to "The Keating Five".

It really is a shame that so many people are continuously fooled by politicians like Senator McCain.

Posted by: cardchampion | February 24, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Whether this is a legitimate issue or not, I don't rightfully know. I do know, however, that the best thing the Democratic Party could do is deep six Howard Dean. He is a loud over-bearing obnoxious self-serving blowhard, quite possibly even mentally unstable, and I, for one, don't trust a single thing he utters. If he said the world was round, I might even have to re-think my prior views on that issue simply because he said it.

Posted by: LAWPOOL | February 24, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

You liberals who hate anything decent and support anything vacuous need to use your spell checkers. Clearly you were in detention when English was taught. Other than your support for the extreme left, your spelling is the other sign of your intellectual shortcomings.

Posted by: LarryG62 | February 24, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

This hasbeen baby killer needs to quit before
some more of his dirt comes to the surface. Booo HOOO HOOO!, five and a half years POW. He should have thought about that possibility
before he decided that he would start bombing villages full of innocent women and children.
The only true patriot is the one who refuses to kill.

Posted by: lunacave | February 24, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

So very typical of the Repiglicans-- say one thing to make yourself look like a better person than your competition but the buried reality is that Repiglicans are filthy dirty double standard types. With the Repiglican mindset it is about one thing-- earning your way up the ladder in order to live that double standard life. Repiglicans are dirty filthy hypocrites. Repiglicans live life in order to tilt the playing field and to exclude. I hate these Repiglican pieces of human waste. Hate em.

Gerald Clough
http://www.lostharvest.com

Posted by: driveindead | February 24, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Funny that the author fails to mention that the reason the Senate is "deadlocked" on the FEC nominations is that BARAK OBAMA has placed a hold on one of the Republican nominees. The Republicans then put a reciprocal hold on the Democratic nominees (the FEC should have 3 Republican and 3 Democratic commissioners) and that is the reason for the "deadlock".

It seems like it would be pertinent to the story to mention that Senator McCain's likely opponent in the fall election is the one who is preventing the FEC from having a quorum so that the commissioners can make a determination as to whether McCain violated public financing rules or not.

Of course the DNC thinks they can get away with this sort of ridiculousness if it has the media covering its tracks.

Posted by: chastowery | February 24, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Hey fordcrml, where was your outrage when your buddies were swift-boating Kerry?

Posted by: jukeboyjoe | February 24, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Well, I am as right on some issue's as they come, McShame's service to his country, Quite frankly speaking getting shot down and captured this does not make you a great leader, being mired in scandel after scandel, He is a very self serving person, The man is a dishonest as they come, You are just kiddin yourself's Gop if you think this guy is anything more than Dole part II, Since, record,integrity,and the Gop favorite, "Character", did not matter to the party higher ups, You will be slaughterd by Obama in the Debates, Tell John to retire ,site health reasons, let him get a rent a cop job and he debate buildings they won't make look like an out of touch fool, Dole needs to.. oh I mean McShame needs to have a warm glass of butter milk and take a nap.

Posted by: RaferJanders | February 24, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

This hypocrisy, among his several other policy reversals pandering to the loony right of the Repugnant party, pales next to his decision to vote against the ban on waterboarding. Any illusions that Senator McCain has integrity or principles should be dispelled by now.

Posted by: vgalea | February 24, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

I get such a kick out of the lefties in this Country that consider military service to be stain on an individual. Senator McCain (please use the title he is deserving of)spent 5 1/2 years in hell. Probable the worst that has happened to the previous writers is a writing cramp.

Posted by: fordcrml | February 24, 2008 04:17 PM
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Does conservative hypocrisy know any bounds at all? IIRC, it was your side who started this "unfit for command" bullcrap in 2004. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, you're all crying like little babies. I LOL in your general direction.

Posted by: way2muchsense | February 24, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

LOL, this is funny stuff. Howard Dean, of all people, pointing a finger at McCain for improprieties! hehehe

"AARRRRRGHGHGHGH"

It's all smoke and mirrors to try to distract from the implosion of the Democratic Party. Queen Hillary will destroy you all if she can't be President.

Posted by: dennispro | February 24, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

.....all this and we are not even to the convention.

Posted by: TennesseeJim | February 24, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

"McCain's advisers have so far brushed off the FEC's concerns" - Cheney The Second. Right out of his "find a way around the law" playbook.

Posted by: coloradodog | February 24, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

I get such a kick out of the lefties in this Country that consider military service to be stain on an individual. Senator McCain (please use the title he is deserving of)spent 5 1/2 years in hell. Probable the worst that has happened to the previous writers is a writing cramp.

Posted by: fordcrml | February 24, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

McCain would say or do ANYTHING to become President. He would even sell us out to a foreign nation. This guy shouldn't even be allowed to visit the White House.

Posted by: eco-pharm | February 24, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

is it true that McCain's "friend", Vicki Iseman went from a secretary/receptionist to a lobbying firm partner in 3 years? Somebody convince me that this was not because of her extraordinary "access" to McCain.

Posted by: ebjlb | February 24, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Federal election Laws are for non-McCrash fighter pilot Hero Republicans. My Daddy was an Admiral... how do you think I Got Into Annapolis government paid college education?

The rumor inside Beltway is MCain will name Vicki Iseman as Vice Presidant "running mate"!

Posted by: rmcnicoll | February 24, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

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