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http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clinton_v_obama_08

We need someone that is going to stand up for the environment for a "Change". Obama has been complacent regarding the environmental issues, and his "Judgment" is definitely in question regarding this critical matter; which has even greater and damaging effects on the global community than the invasion of Iraq.

Voting for the 2005 & 2006 Bush Spending Bills does not seem to indicate any remote "Change from the Politics of the Past" it looks more like "Politics as usual". He talks about, "Washington is where dream go to die". I don't how this wanna be Messiah plans to resurrect these dreams, if he is unable to ignore influence from his campaign contributers like Exelon, and defends them rather than the American People & their interests with his votes.

He is the fatally flawed candidate that the Republican's were dreaming Hillary would be. It is clear that Obama cannot win the White House, with scandals of having a convicted sexual offender on his campaign staff, his wife being proud of America for the first time in her adult life. Refusing to wear an American Flag, or acknowledging our National Anthem with his hand over his heart, calling the voters bitter and clinging to religion & guns, Rezko; to be continued, the advisers he has on his campaign that are Pro-Palestinian, and who worked for the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), his ties to Louis Farrakhan, and of course the Spiritual Genius Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

If the Democrats want to win this year then they should probably go against their judgment ignore the outcomes of States like Idaho, Utah, Kansas, South Carolina, and a host of other Red States that will not be supporting the Democratic Candidate in November. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is insanity. The last Democratic President to hold office for more than 2 terms was Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933 - 1945), excluding Bill Clinton.

The Democratic Party seems to favor a negotiator rather than a leader, which is why they continue to loose Presidential Elections. When something works stick with it. Bill won because he fought back, do we think Hillary won't?

Nominating another a 2nd tier candidate is not something that represents my personal or political views. If we go with the choice of Obama, it shows a complete lack of intelligence or understanding.

Nominate Obama I'm moving to the Green Party and voting for McCain, who I understand does not represent my political beliefs, and he isn't supposed to. Asking me to support a candidate of my own party that doesn't is immoral.

Ask the Super Delegates to Support Hillary, it we want real "Change we can believe in."
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/supporthillary/

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A lot of time is waisted on circuitous arguments...like money is wasted on a presidential race. There is so much speculation about what a candidate may or may not do. Well guess what, all the time they remain a candidate means time that nothing is happening for the real issues at hand. It means time and resources are being invested on the potential that something positive will happen if and when they get into office. There are real issues in our community, internationally that need addressing now. Global warming or global cooling, why fuss over definitely knowing the climate pattern...unless you are a real scientist. Are you? The reality is there is room for improvement in how we live, and striving for sustainability is an emergent paradigm. Consumerism is a non-sustainable paradigm that should be replaced by the new emergent. There is absolutely nothing wrong with conservation...I don't see anywhere in the constitution where it says we have the right to live in excess. We should take some of our hot air and blow it towards something actionable and stop spinning in circles. Candidates in a presidential race might as well be lame ducks, until they are officially elected. I don't see any legislation happening, only the promise of it. More about green politics.

I really TRIED to be Green. I tried to hold all my CO2 in to prevent contaminating the environment-My Water Vapor as well! :-'

I turned Blue instead. :-(

Passed Out! Was Miracleously Resurrected and am now hear to say: Global Warming? Are YOU NUTS? FEAR Global Cooling! It is well on it's way!

And WTF, has ANYONE done to get ready?

To wait until the Cold has already hit, and the damages occurred, is going to be a suicidal time to say: "We should have been doing something BACK when it was Sunny and Warm"!

See, Hindsight, does not warm a room or provide food-Except to the Polar Bears the Dummy senseless enough to say such a thing will be feeding! (While being used to try to bait them in for Our Food!) ;~)

McCain's environmental record should be viewed in its totality.

At great political risk, he has voted against oil drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, new logging roads in the Tongass National Forest, and efforts to weaken CAFE standards. He has fought pork-barrelers in both parties to reform the Army Corps of Engineers, which has wrecked more aquatic ecosystems than any other organization in the history of the world.

Most importantly, he has not only supported limits on greenhouse gas emissions, but taken his colleagues to the ends of the earth to convince them that global warming is real and must be dealt with. Neither of his likely Democratic rivals have shown that level of dedication to this issue.

JakeD:
I thought you were for Hillary in your daily posts. I guess its the old white guy on the lobbyist express ? The league of conservation voters are not wackos but people who dump on them might be.

I have to agree with freedom41 in that the LCV are kind of ginning their rankings to make McCain look bad on environmental issues. It is hard to believe that McCain would be ranked last in Congress when he opposes drilling in ANWAR. If the LCV thinks Clinton or Obama represents their view more then McCain then so be it. But it seems like they are trying to make McCain look worse than he really is on environmental issues. They should at least be above board about it.

My, my. What a dirty little secret McCain is harboring. So much for his "green" credentials. This will be a burgeoning issue with gas prices and global warming both heating up...

http://www.political-buzz.com/

What if McCain picked some California environmentalist with a perfect LCV score as his running-mate? Would that convince any Democrats to vote for that ticket? I would love to see McCain put California into play for the general election.

In 2004, Kerry won California with 6,745,485 (54%) compared to 5,509,826 (45%) for Bush. Short of picking Arnold as VP, is there any other candidate that would put California into play?

I appreciate what you are saying JakeD and it was refreshing to learn that at least McCain gives the environment lip-service, however _not_ voting on ANY issues relating to it is quite telling, in and of itself.

"McCain's commitment to the environment"
So committed not to take the time to vote on any of the critical ones?

I will also agree though, this groups ranking system may need further review before making too much out of it. Still, food-for-thought though.

Nice entry "crumbrye1."

I like this fact from your link:
"McCain and Obama agree that the U.S. should have signed the Kyoto Treaty."

Thank you.

Sounds like the group needs to rethink their rating system. His score should be 'incomplete' not zero.

An amusing aside, tangential to some of the above comments: Gov Pawlenty - presumed frontrunner in the race to be McCain's VP - has been boning up on the environment recently. Several weeks ago he went so far as to say "a lot of these problems should have been addressed 30 years ago." Apparently forgetting that 30 years ago the much-maligned Carter administration was extensively ridiculed for installing solar panels on the White House and suggesting we should all put a sweater on, in order to save energy. Way to go Tim!

Maybe if all those people got off the Internets, davidmwe, and biked everywhere instead, we'd be better off too?

If any youngsters are still reading this, McCain's commitment to the environment is clear ranging from his bipartisan effort to curb carbon dioxide emissions linked to global warming to protecting American wilderness.

Next issue?

In spite of his terrible record this year on the environment, McCain hasn't been all that bad on the issue. I did a comparison of his record and Obama's here...

http://www.greenpieceblog.com/2008/02/obama-vs-mccain-on-environment.html

Seems like he got a low score more because he missed votes than because he's not pro-environment. That's really not a big deal. I think the environmental NGOs are just trying to tear down McCain's image before the election, which is a bit unfair. The real score we should consider is his lifetime rating, which isn't great but not horrible.

Seems like he got a low score more because he missed votes than because he's not pro-environment. That's really not a big deal. I think the environmental NGOs are just trying to tear down McCain's image before the election, which is a bit unfair. The real score we should consider is his lifetime rating, which isn't great but not horrible.

JakeD, the environment is big these days- not like it was pushed under the carpet back in the 80's. People take this very serious, as they should. It ***is*** an issue (major one at that) and the fact that John McCain was ranked the _worst_ of all 500+ congresspeople on it says something.

BTW, young people (18-29 year old voters) are taking the environment very seriously. This is one reason Obama is winning on the web:

Google, Web Hit Statistics and Facebook Figures- the "young" voter speaks:

http://newsusa.myfeedportal.com/viewarticle.php?articleid=48

Yes, is He "The One"? The Messiah? Our Savior?

Is Obama the American Mandela? Obama brings a message of hope and change to a country at the crossroads. It is choice between the past and the future. But is Obama the American Mandela who could inspire Americans to a better future at home? And a future where America takes it rightful place at the global table? Is he the one? The question of whether Obama is the American Mandela is discussed in my blog Angry African on the Loose at http://angryafrican.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/is-obama-the-american-mandela/

LOL! Environmental wackos aren't going to vote for McCain regardless.