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Huckabee Disputes Washington State Results

Updated 7:38 p.m.
By Perry Bacon Jr.
Former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee's campaign has filed a complaint disputing the results of the GOP caucuses in Washington State, where the Republican Party last night declared Arizona Sen. John McCain the winner.

McCain won 25.5 percent of the vote, to Huckabee's 23.7 percent, according to a statement released by Washington officials, which also said only 87 percent of the precincts had been counted. Huckabee officials now argue that the former governor can close the margin if the rest of the votes are counted.

"It is very unfortunate that the Washington State Party Chairman, Luke Esser, chose to call the race for John McCain after only 87 percent of the vote was counted," Huckabee campaign chairman Ed Rollins said in a statement. According to CNN, the difference between Senator McCain and Governor Huckabee is a mere 242 votes, out of more than 12,000 votes counted -- with another 1500 or so votes, apparently, not counted. That is an outrage."

Esser did not immediately return an e-mail message seeking comment. However, following Huckabee's complaint, he said the Washington GOP would resume counting ballots and that the results would be the same. "I am confident it will hold up," he said.

The former Arkansas governor spent the day appearing in churches in Virginia, which holds its primary on Tuesday. At Thomas Baptist Church in Lynchburg, the congregation that was once run by the late Rev. Jerry Falwell, Huckabee was called a "dear friend" by Falwell's son Jonathan, who became pastor after his father's death last May. Huckabee spoke briefly and largely steered away from politics in front of a packed crowd of more than 6,000.

But in appearances on Sunday morning talk shows, Huckabee predicted a strong finish in Virginia, despite polls showing him far behind.

"I think we'll get a nice little bump out of what happened in Kansas," Huckabee said on CBS's "Face the Nation."

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Mccain "pro-life?" How many innocent lives is he prepared to sacrifice over the next 100 years to prove his point that life is sacred? Call Mccain anything, call him annti-abortion, but please, do not try to tell me that he values human life.

Posted by: jimfior02 | February 12, 2008 5:06 AM | Report abuse

Regarding the WA State Republican Caucus: There definitely is a good reason for Gov. Huckabee to object to this reported McCain win for 2 reasons:
1. The WA State Republican Caucus vote only counts for 1/2 of the WA delegates. The other 1/2 will be determined by the Primary vote that doesn't occur until Feb. 19th! So...a 25%win of even half the delegates doesn't amount to a WA landslide in favor of McCain!
2. If the Republican Caucuses were as crazily organized as the Democratic one that I attended, there is very good reason to wonder if the votes were obtained and counted correctly! This is the 1st time I've lived in a state where there was a caucus, so I went as a 1st timer. Everyone I talked to said they were 1st timers too because WA State's vote has never counted in the past (the decision was already made before WA had a say). Believe me, --when the blind are leading the blind (and counting votes too boot) someone with vision should be checking up on the results!

Posted by: gkgraham | February 11, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Go Huckabee!!!!!

Posted by: ajmmms | February 11, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

I am not comparing people who are pro-LIFE with the Nazis.

Posted by: JakeD | February 11, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Regardless of his faults, McCain is almost without doubt the GOP presidential nominee.

I think if he very soon announced Mitt Romney as his running mate that conservatives would rally around the McCain/Romney ticket and immediately gear up for the fight to defeat the Democratic nominee in November.

Posted by: justamere10 | February 11, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Ahhhh yes when in doubt always refer to WWII. Im sorry but comparing people who are pro-life with the Nazis is a cognitive leap that even the far right should be embarrassed to take.

Posted by: jzfloyd | February 11, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Does a person's opinion on Auschwitz also say NOTHING about their ability to lead a nation properly?

Posted by: JakeD | February 11, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

I will never understand you religious people. Look at the state of the nation right now and ask yourselves if the country is better off before or after George W. Bush. You all got manipulated and you still dont realize the joke is on you.

Can someone please tell me what abortion has to do with anything? A person's opinion on abortion says NOTHING about their ability to lead a nation, you can be the most dishonourable man and still be a good statesman and vice versa. Look at Bush, a religious idiot who apparently has "values" and he is a horrible president. History will view him as the one of the worst this nation has ever seen. Please quit ruining our country because you are guided by middle age ideas!

Posted by: jzfloyd | February 11, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

With dittoheads in the lead, rational analysis is not expected from rank and file Republicans. Presidents and vice presidents do NOT have to like each other. Ike nad Nixon could not stand each other, Nixon was forced down Ike's throat. We know that Nixon had no respect for Agnew. Gerald Ford was nominated to become Veep as impeachment insurance. People who forget their history are doomed to repeat it. After 8 years of Cheney, a powerful Veep will scare the American public, or at least that part of it that still thinks for itself.

Being from AZ McCain has always done well with Mormon voters, else he would not have been elected.

Ralph Nader is the wild card, if he runs any Republican will likrly be elected, as in the past. Plainly, Mr. Nader either has an enormous ego, or secret reasons to assure Republicn occupancy of the White House. Possibly he has both. I fear for our Republic!

Posted by: wmybeck | February 11, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

PLEASE LET GO OF ROMNEY ALREADY!!! WAKE UP AND SMELL THE HUCKABEE---he is THE ONE for America!!! VOTE HUCKABEE or else suffer for 4 -8 more years--and the suffering will be worse!!!

Posted by: shell_f | February 11, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Are you repubs all kidding me? Do you not at all care about integrity in office? Romney? How many positions has Romney had - on every social and fiscal issue of importance? John Kerry should have taken lessons from this guy. Really - I love his MLK thing. In the late 1970s, when Romney was in his late 20s, he says he and his father walked with MLK. Then, when he is running for US Senate against Kennedy in mid-1990s, he repeats the story but omits himself from having walked with MLK. Last fall, he again shares his most recently updated story of his father walking/marching with MLK. When Romney is publicly informed by a local Michigan historical association that the so-called Romney/MLK walk never occured, he (Romney) claims he was talking "figurtively".

Please! This guys a joke. He was amongst the most liberal GOP governors in the United States. Pro-choice (his wife donated to Planned Parenthood), pro-amnesty, and smart enough to raise taxes to actually provide services to the people of Massachusettes - Romeny was actually a good governor.
Had he kept those traits, I (an independent) would have considered voting for him. However, he never learned from Kerry in '04 (or as he could have learned soon with Clinton in '08) - you don't abandon your principles for political expediency so openly! Contrary to popular opinion, not all GOP voters or the general public are complete idiots (okay - many are, but thats besides the point). Romney lost because he is a flip-flopping you-know-what. Get over it Limbaugh lovers!

Posted by: aagubi | February 11, 2008 9:16 AM | Report abuse

OMBUDSMAN1 - thanks for saying so well what many want to deny to the detriment and eventual demise, I fear, of the GOP.

Posted by: jhbyer | February 11, 2008 6:35 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: jmazon | February 11, 2008 6:29 AM | Report abuse

I couldn't agree more. I am convinced that Huck has ulterior motives. I am suspicious of McCain. I realize there are those that won't vote for Romney, but for the candidate that fought as runner up throughout the group of 5, and weathered all of the heat longer than anybody cannot be easily discounted.

Sadly I also feel that McCain is not capable of such a selection displaying his interests are not his own, but those of his country. I see him choosing one of his buddies instead that will support his objectives with global warming, and other regulating ideas that he willnever reject.

Please ask a Mormon about their beliefs before regurgitating something you read with out of context quotations. It directly affects how me and my family are treated every day. If you want to research the politics of this race look into the view of baptist toward Mormons. Look up the sermons Huck has given regarding mormons in the past.

I have some dear Baptist friends. Fortunately they can see past this type of comment. We need to unite all believers against those that would remove God from our currency, our pledge and our country. Please stop driving wedges between groups of people religious and otherwise.

Posted by: benjamind | February 11, 2008 6:02 AM | Report abuse

Romney is not going to give McCain cover after the way the latter dished him so disdainfully throughout all the debates; no way.
What no one is focusing on is rather the arguement of the "executive" vis-a-vis the legislator, or rather blow-hard. My advice: double -up on the executive with Huckabee and Romney in that order. Huckabee is not going away. Mitt throws his delegates to Huck and the Senator can rant and scream which anyway is his strong-suit anyway. Huckabee/Romney will beat Clinton/Bayh and lose to Obama and Co.

Posted by: jgotsch1 | February 11, 2008 3:10 AM | Report abuse

Romney is not going to give McCain cover after the way the latter dished him so disdainfully throughout all the debates; no way.
What no one is focusing on is rather the arguement of the "executive" vis-a-vis the legislator, or rather blow-hard. My advice: double -up on the executive with Huckabee and Romney in that order. Huckabee is not going away. Mitt throws his delegates to Huck and the Senator can rant and scream which anyway is his strong-suit anyway. Huckabee/Romney will beat Clinton?Bayh and lose to Obama and Co.

Posted by: jgotsch1 | February 11, 2008 3:08 AM | Report abuse

Count all the votes! It's incredible to me that any state organization of either party would "declare' a winner before all the votes have been counted. It's one thing for a TV network like CNN or Fox to "call" a race; that's an estimate only and nonbinding. But for the state Republican party chairman to call a halt to the count when the candidate he personally favors is only leading by a couple of hundred votes smacks of corruption.

Just when you think only the Democratic Party is capable of screwing over its own voters with stupid moves (Michigan, Florida, superdelegates deciding the outcome), the GOP does us one better. Thanks, Mr. Esser!

Posted by: whatmeregister | February 11, 2008 2:12 AM | Report abuse

Dear mesmert,

Embryonic stem cell research = Abortion. That is why pro-life supporters do not support McCain as a pro-life candidate.

My son was a frozen embryo. An embryo is a life that should be protected as having rights just like every other life.

Posted by: dclark45 | February 11, 2008 1:54 AM | Report abuse

A bit of reality for you folks:
1. If the establishment had their way, McCain wouldnt be the nominee apparent. Mitt would. Those eligible to vote in the primaries to date weren't buying his act, whether you like him or not.
2. Mitt could never be the VP nominee. The mittites, and Mitt, have spent far too much time, energy and $50 mil dissing McCain. It would be the height of hypocrisy for Mitt to now want that, McCain to now award it. It would not be acceptable to many of the Huckites, the other victim of the Mitt negative ads. The only folks who would like it are the libs, frothing over the opportunity to play their flip flop card on him.
3. Huck can't be the VP either. While he and McCain have a more respectful relationship, and broadly agree on social issues, he's not acceptable to the econ conservatives and he scares the non-religious and independents to death. They are allowed to vote, ya know?
4. If the 'I'm gonna take my toys and go home' crowd of two year olds continues to whine about McCain, HRC or BHO will be pres, and there will be nothing left to fight over. Your taxes will be raised, we will have socialized medicine, and we will slink from Iraq in shame.
5. Both Huck and Mitt need to go home and think about a) what they did wrong, and b) what they can do to contribute to a Republican victory. If they don't, they will both be too passe after 8 years of Hillary and 8 years of Barack.

Posted by: forces | February 11, 2008 1:24 AM | Report abuse

Those votes should be counted; it's ridiculous to just stop counting them short of 100%. Don't really understand the thinking behind that, but the guy is probably right that the results will be the same.

Huckabee's wins over the weekend don't really mean all that much. To get a sense of how much they do mean, head on over to Drudge Report. No where is it mentioned that he won two states. The people saying this is the beginning of the end for John McCain, or even the more moderate comment of saying it's going to be a bit harder, are just having a knee jerk reaction to the results. The fundamentals in the Potomac Primaries remain the same.

But I wonder what this does to the argument that Huckabee was playing wingman for McCain so as to not allow Romney to get the win?

Posted by: nlcaldwell | February 11, 2008 12:47 AM | Report abuse


For all your reasons why Romney might be the VP choice, you've still got a lot to learn about what really drives most top politicians: ego. Romney was a complete jerk to McCain in New Hampshire and through most of the primaries after that, maliciously twisting McCain's positions at every opportunity. McCain now hates Romney's guts, and he won't want to pick Romney for that reason alone.

(This is coming from someone who isn't planning to vote for McCain under any circumstances, but Romney was just plain unfair and nasty to McCain.)

A presidential nominee needs a loyal attack dog to be at the bottom of the ticket, someone who will advocate tirelessly for the top candidate without regard for personal gain. Romney would always have his future ambitions in mind, and he would be no better than Edwards was to Kerry. McCain could never trust Romney, and Romney wouldn't stick his neck out for McCain. End of story.

But if you need more reasons, another real problem with Romney is that he is no help to McCain on the conservative front. Romney was a liberal, northeastern governor who suddenly, miraculously converted to a bunch of conservative positions the year before the presidential election started to gear up. Conservatives never really accepted Romney, thus clamoring for Thompson over the summer and, when Thompson proved a dud, the support for Huckabee, a genuine social conservative, although more of a progressive in his views of government, which is also roiling conservatives. Indeed, a McCain-Romney ticket would depress a lot of conservatives even more than they are already depressed now.

McCain has a shot at winning in November, but not with Romney on the ticket. Huckabee would be slightly better, but still not ideal. He is witty, but maybe too nice to take on the attack role effectively. The gaffe about Mormonism is case-in-point. The comment came across sounding mean, and that was about all. If Obama is the Democratic candidate, Huckabee might work O.K. If Clinton is the choice, then whether or not Huckabee can take the lead in dealing with dirty Clinton politics ought to make McCain pause.

And, psychrn7n, Huckabee's mention of the Mormon religion was certainly out-of-place, but it was not bigotry, nor was it slander of the religion. Do a little research into Mormonism, and you'll find that Huckabee is essentially correct. Mormons do believe that Jesus and Satan are brothers. In their theology, Elohim, the heavenly father, has celestial sex with all his wives, who produce spirit babies. Jesus was the firstborn of these spirit babies, and Lucifer was another important son. You and I and everyone else are also celestial siblings. Jesus and Satan are not earthly brothers, which is how Mormons will dispute Huckabee's statement, because Lucifer was never born into a human body, whereas Jesus was, but they are very much heavenly brothers in Mormon doctrine. Even the LDS church's official website confirms this.

So, yeah, Huckabee was in poor taste raising the issue at all, and he did so in order to make Romney look bad, but nothing he said was factually inaccurate.

And, yes, while Huckabee would probably make a terrible presidential candidate with the way he has positioned himself so far in the primaries, he does deserve to have all of the Washington votes counted. With less than 2% separating the top two, and just a few hundred votes, this looks very much like the party establishment suppressing a vote to avoid a complete embarrassment for McCain. Had McCain lost all of Saturday's contests, his "nominee-apparent" status would have been shattered. A Washington win saved McCain, but it's hardly a win with 1/7 of the votes still uncounted.

This just smacks of corruption, and who knows what is happening with those ballots while they aren't being counted?

Posted by: blert | February 11, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

It is unfortunate that Mitt Romney has decided to no longer run in the race. I encourage all Romney supporters to vote for Mike Huckabee. He is the only remaining conservative in the race. If we as Reagan conservatives are to have any say in the Republican Party, we need to show that we are still a strong force within that party. The only way to do that is to vote for Huckabee before it is too late. Please get past the disappointment of Mitt Romney not being president. He would have been a good conservative president, but Huckabee is our only choice left. Do what is good for our Republican Party. Keep it conservative, vote for Huckabee. Thank you.

Posted by: rlt3210 | February 11, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Speaking as a Reagan-Conservative, many of the above are really weird comments!

First, if you're prolife you can't vote for McCain? McCain's lifelong voting record on such issues is 100%.

Now, if you don't like McCain-Feingold (which I despise) that's one thing. But you can't vote McCain because you're prolife? Nonesense.

Second, Romney is no Conservative. Check his voting record: he's about as conservative as Rudy, and at least Rudy told the truth about it.

Finally, while it's been quite unwise for Huckabee to pander to the religious right (folks like me, that is) he's no more a nutcase than was, say, John Wesley. For a United Methodist to be confused, and vicious, about that--is sad.

Posted by: dan.nutley | February 11, 2008 12:08 AM | Report abuse

There is NO reason that Gov. Romney would even want to be Sen. McCain's running mate!
As "Jake D." said, Gov. Romney is likely to be the favorite in the 2012 Republican primary.
And I will "go out on a limb" and say that the "Democrat's Republican," John McCain, will NEVER enjoy enough conservative support to win in the general election. This means that Gov. Romney would be better to stay out of the the train wreck that will be McCain's candidacy then he would be involving himself (I'll bet that if John Edwards had it to do over again he would not have wanted to be on the ticket with John Kerry).
McCain has repeatedly spit in the faces of conservatives (the CORE of the Republican party) over the last decade. A political rule of thumb is that whichever candidate has the most energized base will be successful. I honestly cannot see conservatives tripping over themselves to vote for the man who has been their nemesis over the years - John McCain. So it does not matter how many "independents" that McCain may be able to steal from the Democrats in the general election; he will lose because the number of REPUBLICANS voting for him will be so small!
As for the "Huck," I hope that McCain DOES make him his VP. This way, when McCain loses badly this year, both of their political futures will be cooked!
*The truth is that the Republicans lost this election the moment that Mitt Romney dropped out. He was the ONLY candidate who was truly conservative and electable against Obama or Hillary!

Posted by: mesmert | February 10, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Why no WaPost front page story on the Washington state election fraud?

No vote count? Declaring a winner?

Does no one on your staff care?

Posted by: llrllr | February 10, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

I really doubt Huckabee can grab many Romney supporters. Huckabee trashed Romney on a personal basis, instead of on the issues. In fact, I imagine a good percentage of Romney supporters will not go with the Republican ticket if Huckabee is in either the President or Vice President slot.

Posted by: blaine | February 10, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse

regardless of the candidates, election standards about "declaring" winners without conclusive tallies are less than acceptable.

how is a winner declared pre-emptively and voting stoped?

Esser did not immediately return an e-mail message seeking comment. However, following Huckabee's complaint, he said the Washington GOP would resume counting ballots and that the results would be the same. "I am confident..."

sounds like the last Washington governors race, with Rossi and Gregoire votes not counted...

Posted by: forestbloggod | February 10, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: kh_taylor | February 10, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

The Washington state caucus is a fraud and should be considered a national outrage. Every vote counts in this election, and John McCain's supporters know it. They know that Huckabee can still win if enough people get out and vote. I encourage all Romney voters to quit this nonsense and vote for Mike Huckabee, before John McCain really does win the nomination.

Posted by: TJMc | February 10, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

First, let me say that I have always considered myself a Democrat and I despised the Republican Party. I thought the Republican Party was utterly corrupt and despicable and felt as though the Democrats were "the lesser of two evils". This is because I have never seen a TRUE Republican until Mike Huckabee. With Mike Huckabee, I feel so much hope and optimism for the first time in my 35 years. Beginning late Saturday night though, I have become quite saddened, saddened because I strongly intuited there was corruption occuring during the Washington vote count. It's so obvious. Like this worthy candidate has said, "this is not a coronation", and the people of this country have the right to have their vote taken and most of all, COUNTED. If John McCain was the best candidate, he would only want to win fair and square, no matter what. Mike Huckabee is the solution to all that has compromised the integrity of the Republican Party for too long. He is the very best candidate by far in the entire race and I wonder how many of his critics actually spent any time learning about him at all? It's pathetic for people to not think for themselves and to just go with the crowd and much of this ignorant snobbery is completely un-American. The heart and soul of this nation wants Mike Huckabee. It's mind wants it too but the truth is being obscured and ignorance is continuing to prevail instead. President Mike Huckabee could appoint John McCain as Secretary of Defense, because lets face it, he is obsessed with war and this country will continue to go downhill if he is president because McCain is too old and not up for the entire job, as is Mike Huckabee. If McCain is up against Clinton, she will get my vote, if McCain runs againt Barrack Osama, it will be perhaps the sorriest time for this country yet... well please, please don't let that happen. Vote Huckabee!!!

Posted by: shell_f | February 10, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Why does Huckabee care so much about the results of the straw poll taken at the Washington caucuses? It's all about the delegates baby and Ron Paul did very well because we made sure that our supporters became delegates. The delegates are the ones who matter. By the way nice job failing to mention that Ron Paul received a VERY close third place finish in the caucus straw poll as well.

Posted by: bellinghamcoder | February 10, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Count all the votes!!
Geez, I really worry about a 72 year old being President, I mean really, we worry about people that age driving a car and we are going to allow this guy to run the country..Big BIg BIG mistake. Oh there are many other reasons to discount McCain, Amnesty, McCain-Finegold, etc, etc....

Posted by: Barry2 | February 10, 2008 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Count the votes!

That said, Huckabee is not a good candidate for the GOP and McCain would destroy his chances if he were silly enough to pick him. Huck has NO foreign policy experience, even less understanding of economics, and a bad habit of lying to cover up these deficiencies.

Two Examples. When criticized for his comment that the Bush adminstration has an "arrogant bunker mentality," he lied that he meant that we did not go into Iraq with enough troops. Read the article in Foreign Affairs--he meant no such thing. Second, when criticized about wanting to close down Gitmo and bring the prisoners to Fort Leavenworth, he said it's because they have it too easy in Gitmo. Is this a thoughtful, considered position?

Huckabee is a talented politician, but lacks good judgement. He would be a rotten pick for Veep.

Posted by: | February 10, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Great analysis on reasons for Romney to be VP. Huckabee offended me with his comment that he thought that Mormons believed that the Devil was Jesus's brother. It sounded like an insincere comment that less than fully truthful person would make to slander someone or another religion. It sounded like bigotry. I am a Lutheran, but would never make such a comment about anyone's religion.

I could forgive the comment, but he also has made comments about Romney spending his own money to advance his campaign. Other than that type of un-Christian behavior I don't see much wrong with his positions. He has flip flopped on illegals though. Also he is hurting McCain by not getting out of the way. He has little real chance of winning, and is doing damage. His evangelical base is strong, and he could ride it to a Republican nomination next time, but I don't think he would be a viable presidential nominee. I think he turns a lot of peoople off, as he did me. I could certainly be wrong about that though.

I am going to have a hard time voting for the oldest ever presidential candidate. I am 62, and don't think 72 is a good age to start a first presidency. The Democrats will be bringing this up,and I don't think he can deal with it. A lot of others will think the same thing. Romney or Huckabee are the best VP candidates to bring the party together, and they are young enough to take over if McCain has a stroke, heart attack etc.

Posted by: psychrn7n | February 10, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

In the interest of full disclosure, I voted for Huckabee in NH Primary, and also contributed to his campaign.

That being said, I think that McCain is a problem for conservative voters, and even putting a 'pro-lifer' like Huckabee on the ticket will sway some, but not many. And putting a fiscal conservative like Romney, will not help as he will lose the 'christian base', nedd for a good showing in November.

Conservices are going to have a tremendous job to over come a Clinton/Obama or Obama/Client Democratic ticket.

Only a united republican front, with Fiscal, Christian, and socal consertives standing behind a single canidate, will stand a chance (and I unfortunately think a remote one) at winning.

I believe the nov 08 vote will be a vote against GWB and not for the Democrats, however the democrats will reap the benefits.

That being said, if another national Security crisis happens before the nov 08 elextion I think McCain will win handily.

Posted by: tlang | February 10, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Whah Huckleberry, Ah do bahlieve you sir, ahr a LOSER!

I say again, McCain would demonstrate his limited intelligence by getting a "Brain".

That "Brain's" name, is MITT ROMNEY!

Posted by: rat-the | February 10, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

If McCain chooses Huckabillee for VP, they go down together in flames in November, ESPECIALLY if Clintons and Hussein team up. Huckabillee can only win in the bible belt states and has barely garnered 15% in ANY of the northern and western state races. Romney, on the other hand, PROVED he can win there AND even some in the NE. Southern states will go along because they're solidly Republican, Huckabillee or NO Huckabillee.

Mitt Romney "suspending" his campaign could turn out to be a brilliant strategy in getting him the VP nomination. No matter WHAT McCain says, Conservatives will never get behind him, and why should they with is "stick in the eye" behavior toward them. The longer Huckabillee stays in the race, the more it will also show the McCain camp that he will never be able to attract Romney's Conservative support. This will force McCain's hand on his VP choice, and if he has ANY brains left at all, he will choose Romney. Whether Mitt accepts the offer or not will be very interesting to see.

Otherwise, we're headed for SIXTEEN years or Clintons and then Hussein Obama...a VERY scary scenario indeed for the survival and future of this country.

Posted by: mrunpc | February 10, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Count all the votes, but understand that only a nut case would vote for Huckabee.

I am a Christian. United Methodist.

And anyone who pays attention to the world knows that when you put religion into politics, everybody loses.

The Taliban are a perfect example. The Saudis. Iran. All are countries that try to make sure their version of God is part of their politics, and all of them are disasters.

I'm a Republican and I yell at all the Republicans who come to my door and call me. I point out to them that the Republican part has been hijacked by a bunch of Christian kooks who aren't particularly republican and who are single issue voters. I tell them they won't get another penny from me until they disavow such people and get on with governing the country.

We've got big issues in this country.... Iraq, Immigration, health care, wages not keeping up. And we're talking about Abortion. It's not even a real issue. It's a litmus test. It's ruining our country to no good end.

If you are a religious kook, please pray to jesus or budda or allah, and stay out of politics and the voting booth. You are exactly what is wrong with this country.

Posted by: Ombudsman1 | February 10, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Short and simple: BOTH (ALL) of the candidates should ALWAYS insist that ALL the votes get counted, as a matter of standard practice. Reason: ALL the candidates are stressing "Get out and vote!" As a result, more people are. If for no other reason than to make everyone feel like all their votes actually DO count, then we have to COUNT ALL THE VOTES.

See? Simple.

Posted by: russ.binder | February 10, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

So, Huck had 23% and he's angry that the race was called. Wouldn't he be even angrier if he had 21% and no one would even talk about him at all?

Like Ron Paul?

And, polyscistudent, you gave 26 reasons for something that isn't going to happen and not one of them really had any substance. Let me splain.

1. You don't have any idea who will run for what in 2012, and the country will likely be unrecognizable in 2016. Romney isn't going to "work as hard as possible" for John McCain; he dropped out because he was told to by Republican power brokers, that's all. That doesn't make him McCain's boy or anything.
2. Ha ha. Romney may be intelligent, but worldly he is not. Remember when he was caught on mic saying we should emulate Hezbollah's welfare network?
3. Romney's donors hate McCain and Romney can't lend McCain money like he did with his own campaign.
4. National economic matters are vastly different than state. The reason is that states can't print their own money and don't have central banks. Nor do they have to attract 2 billion bucks a day in foreign bond purchases in order to finance their government deficit spending.

Romney's "expertise" would be useless. What McCain would need is an expert on monetary economics, like say Ron Paul. And, he would need to be a lot higher up than VP.
5. I think too much has been made of this "governor as president" "executive experience" thing. Contrary to what you seem to think, that pattern will be broken this year anyway because Hillary, Obama and McCain are all Senators. Again, there is no comparison between state and federal anymore, because fiat currency changes everything.
6. Bull. Romney supporters wouldn't cross the street for McCain.
7. Bull. There is nothing economically conservative about Romney, and true conservatives know it, regardless of what talk radio tells them.
8. Correction: Romney supporters WERE very enthusiastic and dedicated. His dropout hit them like a punch in the gut. Do you think everything will be all sweetness and light just because Romney is offered the VP slot?
9. Maybe.
10. Ha. Fantasy.
11. Ha. Any conservative that believed that because Mac gave Romney the VP slot, it meant that McCain wouldn't abandon conservative principles, would be a fool and deserve what he or she got.
12. Wishful thinking
13. Romney was the "change" candidate? That's news to us Ron Paul supporters.
14. So conservatives should do what liberals do, and take credit for it?
15. Just because McCain picks Romney as VP, DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY UNIFY THE CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT. It's naive to think otherwise.
16. VP's do not "balance" out presidents. They simply do not have the power.
17. Not only is Romney not a yes man, he's not going to lower himself to serve as VP either. McCain is a loose cannon. Nobody can moderate him.
18. Do you really think it matters whether the right is complacent or not on election day? Nah. They are going to lose. Big. Their only chance to beat Hillary or Obama was to nominate Ron Paul. Without him, they are toast.
19. Why don't you suck up to Romney a little more? You cried cause you're a fool who doesn't have a clue what this country needs, and if you weren't a republican worshipping Romney, you'd be a liberal gushing over how Obama.
20. Stupid comment. Who cares?
21. More "executive experience" bull.
22. How is a guy who just ran for his first national office "battle hardened"? Not to mention he quit suddenly, leaving his supporters in the lurch.
23. You think Romney is pure and upstanding? I remind you that he couldn't even stand up for his own ancestors, claiming that he "couldn't imagine anything worse than polygamy." Please, get your tongue out of there.
24. Yes, the talk may stop, but again, that doesn't mean that Romney's supporters are going to campaign for John McCain. Why you think they will is a mystery to me.
25. It is obvious from this comment that you put the party over the people. Republicans are going to lose because they have abandoned their commitment to smaller government. Both Mitt Romney and John McCain are big government republicans who will never unite the party because most of the party (and the American people)still want smaller government.
26. The rift in the Republican party is not new, nor is it the fault of Mike Huckabee. The problem goes all the way back to Barry Goldwater, the last true conservative candidate in the republican party, who was smeared and destroyed by the same people who are destroying the party today.

The only parts of conservatism worth saving are its libertarian foundations. Everything else must be demolished and then swept into the dustbin of history.

Posted by: TomdeSabla | February 10, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Luke Esser was on stage cheering at a McCain rally on Friday night. I think this is entirely inappropriate for the man that is supposed to be the referee in this contest.

Esser is the man on the right.

Posted by: jeffreyclarke | February 10, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Not voting in November just because you don't like your party's candidate is a slap in the face to democracy.

Instead of not voting, cast your vote for the candidate/party that best represents you.

If you are a prolifer and don't want to vote for McCain then vote for the Constitution Party's candidate. The Constitution Party is the most conservative party this country has.

Posted by: coyotetony | February 10, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

I agree with poliscistudent that Romney would make an attractive VP candidate for McCain. Unfortunately the two men seem to have a genuine and personal animosity, and as everybody points out they are both sincere guys, especially for politicians.

And Huckabee absolutely has an excellent case. under 300 votes is much too small a margin when there is five times that many left to count.

Do not count Mike Huckabee out. Look at the list of states that remain to vote in the primaries: most of them are heavily Christian and very heavily conservative. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Huck wins in Virginia, or in Texas.


Posted by: Josh_Geller | February 10, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

McCain and his cronies are ruthless. Now they're trying to screw the Huckster. I've never been a fan of Huckabee, but I'm in his corner now. STOP McCAIN !!!

Posted by: plcc0 | February 10, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Folks when one bucks the power establishment who feel they control the GOP and then the grass roots say something different, then the establishment starts playing games.
This also happened in Louisiana in their caucus a couple weeks back (And it will matter because no one had a majority in the primary voting on Saturday) and perhaps California AND now Washington.
We really do need to keep an eye on the process. It has been many years since it mattered since there have been NO recent close and contested primaries. The old folks knew to watch out. We are re-learning it.
Computers, which are subject to hacking and manipulation, make this process all the more difficult when there are no paper ballots to recount.

Posted by: RamseySt | February 10, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

How funny is it watching all of the conservative elites race to "McCain-nedy" for a seat at his Presidential table? First the GOP shoved liberal conservative H. Bush down our throats just for him to lose the White House. Then they shoved moderate constrictive W. Bush down our throats and he spent us into the poor house. Now they are shoving a liberal conservative down our throats again, John McCain, who must persuade the conservative base to fall in line for him for no reasons. What a Joke! The Republican Party will not receive another dime from me or my support. The conservative elites think their base is as liberal as them and McCain.

The liberal elites and conservative elites could not care less what their base thinks!

Posted by: d_shoup | February 10, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

So, let me see if I have this straight...the point of being pro-life is to save innocent lives, yet you would encourage pro-life voters to stay home and allow an anti-life candidate to win a presidential election--knowing that the winner of that election may appoint 2-3 Supreme Court justices--just so that you can prove a point to a political party? How many unborn lives is it worth to you to make your point?

Posted by: big12south00 | February 10, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Nice as John McCain may be, pro-lifers cannot vote for him. If they vote for a non-prolife candidate once in the name of the so-called "lesser evil", then they may never have the opportunity again to see a pro-life presidential candidate. McCain maybe a good candidate, but he is not good enough. Only if pro-life voters stay home in November can they give their party a message that the party will understand.

Posted by: HaveItYourWay | February 10, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

McCain's V.P. running mate.

Here is the growing list of reasons why Governor Romney would be the perfect V.P. choice for McCain - and everyone else:

1. There is widespread agreement that if John McCain loses this year, Gov. Romney will run in 2012. If Gov. Romney were on the ticket as V.P. next in line for the GOP nod in 2016, Mr. McCain would not have to worry about whether Mr. Romney would work as hard as possible for a McCain/Romney win this year.
2. Governor Romney is very intelligent, and I think would be very comfortable dealing with foreign dignitaries.
3. Governor Romney is very rich and has a well-oiled fund-raising circuit that would be very beneficial to Mr. McCain.
4. Governor Romney would bring expertise to economic matters that Mr. McCain seems to be lacking.
5. Governor Romney would bring executive experience as a Governor to the ticket.
6. Governor Romney would bring almost all of his supporters to help with a McCain/Romney ticket, thereby assuring that his supporters aren't trying to bring him attention to a potential 2012 run, nipping such conversation quickly, before it takes root and is hard to break apart.
7. Governor Romney appeals to social, economic and defense conservatives, bringing the whole Party and most of the Conservative Movement - including talk radio - on board with the ticket.
8. Romney supporters are very enthusiastic and dedicated. You cannot buy this kind of endearment, but McCain would be able to pick up his supporters, and their already-in-place organizational and other skills they would have to offer to the ticket.
9. Romney would help John McCain in purple states such as Michigan, Nevada and Minnesota, and could even put Massachusetts in place in November.
10. Governor Romney brings all the necessary ingredients to John McCain's campaign that he so desperately needs to succeed against Hillary - and especially - an Obama Democratic opponent.
11. You cannot buy loyalty like Governor Romney has with his supporters. You have to EARN it. By giving Romney the nod for the V.P. slot, McCain would be showing the Conservative Movement in America that he will not abandon them in the future. If he does this, he will almost be unstoppable in the fall against the Democrats.
12. Governor Romney is now widely seen as heir next in line to be the GOP nominee if McCain were to be defeated, or if McCain served two terms, then 2116, if Romney stays in the game that long. The move to make Romney V.P. would silence many evangelical and social conservatives who now would support Gov. Romney, including Dr. Dobson and others. This would shore up support among Mr. Huckabee's supporters to Mr. McCain, endearing McCain as the one who actually DID bring the Party and Conservative Movement together to defeat the Democrats and take BACK both Houses of Congress!
13. Gov. Romney was the clear "change" candidate - and ran on that theme. The move to make Romney V.P. would be a tough ticket against a Hillary/Obama ticket. Change wins almost every time. We would now be able to bring that on-the-ground message IMMEDIATELY!
14. As the man who actually did something about - and has earned him wide recognition of - healthcare reform, he is the ideal man to blunt the Democrat's BillaryCare proposals. This item would essentially be OURS as Republicans, which would deflate much criticism against the Republicans for not adequately addressing this critical issue thus far!
15. By picking Romney, we come out a totally unified Republican Party AND Conservative Movement - ready to fight against the Democrats NOW!
16. McCain IS the President-elect. He WILL be the Commander in Chief. McCain WILL be the boss - apple sauce -non debatable. McCain will get his way on very many things. But, Mr. Romney can still use cabinet meetings and gestures to try to persuade Mr. McCain to go all the way toward Ronald Reagan's principled road of social, economic and military-might conservatism. Mr. McCain will ALWAYS win. But, Romney will be RIGHT there to balance McCain as needed.
17. Romney would be good for McCain, since Romney is NOT a "yes" man. Romney is a principled, determined conservative who is GRACIOUS -yet stern when applicable - who can turn the other cheek when needed, after his opinions are known and rejected. He PROVED that by bowing out graciously and promising to work hard for Mr. McCain as the GOP nominee-to-be. Mr. McCain does NOT need a "yes" man, but rather someone who can keep his temper and political wavering's from right issues in check.
18. An informal straw vote among those present to see who they might prefer for President after the CPAC convention showed Romney winning it with 34%, followed by John McCain at 33 %, and Huckabee way down at only 14 percent. This vote proves that adding Gov. Romney to the ticket would quell the right and go along way toward making sure they aren't complacent on election day.
19. If McCain does not pick a well-known conservative for V.P., it may take MONTHS for the Republican electorate to get know and accept him, as was the case with Gov. Romney. Conservatives now know that Romney is "one of us," after his gracious exodus speech at a stunned CPAC convention. People cried. My wife cried. I cried. You CANNOT buy that kind of endearment! Governor Mitt Romney EARNED IT!
20. John McCain is old, grey, and not very attractive overall. A V.P. pick that is younger, more handsome, and without so many grey hairs will help McCain with some voters concerns about such things. Romney fits the bill here.
21. No other governor fits as many specific criteria that a V.P. should have than Governor Romney. A pick that is OTHER than a governor for the V.P. slot isn't as attractive to some voters. Executive experience does matter, and Romney can balance a McCain ticket in this way.
22. A V.P. pick should already be politically battle-hardened so that there won't be embarrassing moments for the campaign. Romney took punches from virtuously everyone - and still stayed a gentlemen under pressure.
23. A V.P. pick MUST be a scandal and corruption-free pick that under the intense scrutiny of the media's microscope, will not be a negative for the campaign. Romney is about as pure as new snow as one can get. His first and only wife, along with ALL his children, are fine, upstanding citizens with no baggage to bring to a McCain campaign.
24. Many Romney supporters feel like they were shafted by McCain due to his mis-characterization (some say lie) of Romney's stance on time tables and troops withdrawal from Iraq right before the Florida contest. Romney supporters are keenly aware of the extreme distaste McCain and some of his supporters have for Mr. Romney, and this is feeding a movement for him to run in 2012, ceding the 2008 election to the Democrats. If Romney becomes McCain's V.P. choice, most of this talk, including the movement, would stop, with Romney supporters instead working hard for the McCain/Romney 2008 ticket.
25. Most Mormons feel betrayed and bitter about what many see as Mr. Huckabee's overt anti-Mormon bigotry. The history of the Republican Party and Mormons goes back many years, and Mormons have ALWAYS been a strong, reliable source of strength for our Party. By putting Mr. Romney on the ticket, they will feel that Mr. McCain is really not going to let our Party leave them feeling left out, possibly losing this constituency for a long time to come. Let's be a party of inclusion that the voters approve of, not of the bigoted few that only divide us to eventual ruin.
26. Mr. Huckabee's wins on saturday against McCain are a harbinger of what is in store for the McCain campaign if they don't act QUICKLY to put this fire of his out. This will become a movement in short order if not stopped immediately, leading to a full-blown retreat from McCain. If McCain doesn't make Romney the V.P. choice very soon, then Huckabee may be in a position to demand he be on the ticket with McCain. If McCain must do this, he will effectively cause a rift in the Republican Party that will not heal for possibly many years to come. Huckabee is unacceptable to far too many than he will ever attract.

Posted by: poliscistudent | February 10, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

I gotta agree with Huck on this one.

Posted by: JakeD | February 10, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

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