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Updated 3:08 p.m.
By Michael D. Shear
CINCINNATI -- A supporter of Ariz. Sen. John McCain repeatedly used Barack Obama's middle name, Hussein, while ridiculing him as a terrorist sympathizer in an introductory speech for McCain at a rally here this morning.

Immediately afterward, former Ohio congressman and former Bush administration official Rob Portman praised the supporter, talk show host Bill Cunningham, as an "extremely important" part of the McCain campaign.

Cunningham, who is known locally for his right-wing, fiery rhetoric on the radio, challenged the media to "stop taking sides and begin covering Barack Hussein Obama" as they do Republicans.

He used Obama's middle name two more times and referred to him as "a hack, Chicago-style Daley politician who's picturing himself as change. When he gets done with you, all you're going to have in your pocket is change."

He then mocked foreign policy statements of "Barack Hussein Obama," calling him the "fraud from Chicago" and saying that if Obama were to be elected president he would meet with the leaders of enemy nations. He said the "world leaders who want to kill us" will be "singing Kumbaya together around the table with Barack Obama."

Later in his comments, he said there is a big difference between Secretaries of State "Condoleezza Rice and Madeleine Albright, who looks like death warmed over. I think there's a difference between Condi and Madeleine. "

He also referred to former Gen. Wesley Clark as a "Clinonista."

McCain did not mention Cunningham's comments in his speech to the enthusiastic crowd. But afterward, in comments to reporters, McCain apologized profusely for "any disparaging remarks" made about his Democratic rivals.

"Whatever suggestion was made that was in any way disparaging to the integrity, character, honesty of either Sen. Obama or Sen. Clinton was wrong and I condemn it," McCain said. "I will take responsibility and I apologize for it."

Pressed by reporters, McCain said he will "make sure nothing like that ever happens again" and said "I absolutely repudiate such comments."

A spokesman for Obama said that "We appreciate Senator McCain's remarks. It is a sign that if there is a McCain-Obama general election, it can be intensely competitive but the candidates will attempt to keep it respectful and focused on issues," said Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton.

Portman said after McCain's speech that Cunninghams is "often controversial" and that it did not surprise him that Cunningham would have made news with his comments at the rally.

But on stage earlier, Portman was effusive about Cunningham's speech. "Willie, you're out of control again. So, what else is new? But we love him," Portman told the crowd. "But I've got to tell you, Bill Cunningham lending his voice to this campaign is extremely important."

The sarcastic speech by Cunningham followed comments by another supporter, a local prosecutor from the Cincinnati area, who mocked Obama's lack of military service and his message of optimism.

Joe Deters called Obama the "presumptive Democratic candidate" and predicted that Obama's success will quickly fade as people see through his rhetoric.

He said that will happen "after the vortex of love for this candidate stops -- and I feel so badly for the Clintons about this, don't you? -- and everybody sobers up and says what does this guy really stand for?"

Deters whipped up the audience of about 400 by accusing Obama of supporting policies that Republicans hate.

"How about raising your taxes? How about that?" Deters said, prompting loud "boos" from the crowd.

"How about universal health care?"

More boos.

"How about the Democrats fighting with each other on how quickly they will surrender to the terrorists in Iraq?"

More boos.

Deters then questioned Obama's lack of military experience. He cited McCain's well-known history of having spent five years in a Vietnamese prison cell and having two sons serving "in uniform," and then accused Obama of having never risked anything.

"The only thing he has ever risked was a filing fee for reelection," Deters said. "That's the only thing he ever risked."

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Posted by: mloxa hjfixsdoa | April 16, 2008 9:26 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: mloxa hjfixsdoa | April 16, 2008 9:22 AM | Report abuse

jakeD wrote:

"From Barack HUSSEIN Obama's book Audacity of Hope:

I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

And you know what, jakeD? So will I. A a Jew. Proudly, at risk of my own life if necessary.

If enough German Christians had said in 1929, "I will stand with the Jews should the political winds turn ugly," six million more of my people might be alive today.

"Never again" means something to me. "Never again." Not to us. Not to ANYBODY.

blowmeplz wrote a little later:

"That's a nice quote, jakeD. Of course it is utterly meaningless without any context around it and for all anyone knows here is completely fictitious, much like the email accusations of Obama being a muslim."

You're quite right, of course. I tried searching online for the quote, and have found only blog posts and the like supposedly "quoting" it. Never is there a page number, and never is there a shred of context. How about the 200-300 words surrounding the quote, so we know what he's getting at? No, this quote is meant at demonization and xenophobia, and as I have already stated, I know the history of my own people, and what demonization and xenophobia can do. So the quote may well be fictitious, and is in any case taken completely out of context.

But you know what? I hope he did write it, and I hope he means it. Because I support it, and as I said above, I will do so as well, proudly, as a Jew. There is absolutely nothing to be ashamed of in that language, and everything to be proud of.

Posted by: siegeljd | March 2, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

God forbid that we have a campaign for the highest office in the land based on the issues. To me, all these personal attacks serve no purpose and really disgust me.

Posted by: Evan.Rosenberg | February 27, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

I would like someone to ask Bill Cunningham the following question "Who do you hate most: Black people, Latino people or Arab people" What he said is just about stoking racial prejudice and this is a huge problem for the McCain campaign. There are people on the right who are quite simply racist and Mr Cunninghams comments are just the first of what I believe will be numerous instances of the right trying to frighten people with this rubbish.
Hannity called Cunningham a "great american" last night. He should be ashamed. But he wont be.
Every one of these offensive comments will be a futher blow to the McCain campaign and ensure his defeat.

Posted by: rcam8 | February 27, 2008 8:33 AM | Report abuse

Oh suuuure McCain didn't know what happen when he gave Cunningham the platform. And notice how he didnt mention it during the speech, he waited until after. He is trying to have it both ways. This is Straight Talk ala Bush-Cheney.

It is this kind of garbage that has Obama leading in the polls. Decent Americans of both parties are sick of this kind of garbage. The more negative the GOP goes, the more voters they will lose.

Posted by: MarcMyWords | February 27, 2008 1:43 AM | Report abuse


Judaism began thousands of years ago,Christianity two thousand ago...six hundred years after Islam began.
During those years before Islam the Arab people were pagan,Christian and Jewish.During that time their children were nameless -- when a father wanted to call his son he said "Come here Ugly"-the mother rejected that thinking her son was handsome -"let's call him Handsome"
-and so they called their son Hussein, which means handsome in Arabic,a name of Christians and pagans before Islam ---and still,though rarely in use among the world's 25 million Christian Arabs.Yaphet is used for handsome in Hebrew.
The worlds 25 million Christian Arabs are scattered 8-10 million in Egypt(largely Coptic),3-4 million in Syria and Leabanon,2-3 million in Latin America,and 3 million in the USA(mostly Lebanese).
When disparaging remarks are made about Arabic names in the USA it is the Christian Arabic community that suffers-there are as many Christian Arabs in the USA as those who profess Islam


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Judaism began thousands of years ago,Christianity two thousand ago...six hundred years after Islam began.
During those years before Islam the Arab people were pagan,Christian and Jewish.During that time their children were nameless -- when a father wanted to call his son he said "Come here Ugly"-the mother rejected that thinking her son was handsome -"let's call him Handsome"
-and so they called their son Hussein, which means handsome in Arabic,a name of Christians and pagans before Islam ---and still,though rarely in use among the world's 25 million Christian Arabs.Yaphet is used for handsome in Hebrew.
The worlds 25 million Christian Arabs are scattered 8-10 million in Egypt(largely Coptic),3-4 million in Syria and Leabanon,2-3 million in Latin America,and 3 million in the USA(mostly Lebanese).
When disparaging remarks are made about Arabic names in the USA it is the Christian Arabic community that suffers-there are as many Christian Arabs in the USA as those who profess Islam



Posted by: jerryhersch | February 27, 2008 1:16 AM | Report abuse

Saddam Hussein, Barak Hussein Obama. Saddam Hussein was a tyrannical thug who practiced Islam when it suited his political goals.

The xenophobic bigots who refer to Barak Hussein Obama only by his middle name are probably trying to paint him as a future tyrannical thug who will practice Islam when it suits his political goals.

Such logic is so twisted as to be insane.

Posted by: rmb3302 | February 26, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Obama, McCain - 2 politicians who actually try to do the right thing on the campaign trail. Imagine that.

They have different ideologies, but it's good to see that they care about the honor associated with the office, unlike Mrs. Kitchen Sink.

Posted by: loved1 | February 26, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

My full name is James MOORE Dort (everyone calls me Jake though). I'd have to dig out military paperwork for my service number, since I don't remember that off the top of my head. What's your full name, ersch, hbreq_7, Paul28, or pierrejc2?

Posted by: JakeD | February 26, 2008 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Hey stumilesog, if you think the comments here are bad you should check out some of the comments on fox's coverage:

http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/2008/02/26/mccain-apologizes-for-radio-hosts-obama-comments-at-rally/

It's pretty sad.

Posted by: troymcclure75 | February 26, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

You can tell how ignorant the American People are just by reading some of the above comments. I'm surprised some of them have electricity, a computer, that they can read, and that they can type. Or maybe God, who created the Earth in 6 days and let dinosaurs run around with men, is helping their ignorant minds guide their fingers to write such garbage. No wonder Michelle Obama isnt entirely proud of this country.

Posted by: stumilesog | February 26, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

good point rc53- the problem however is that Americans are either too dumb, or too lazy to think for themselves or watch a debate themselves. So instead they rely on people like Hannity and Colter to tell them what to think and give them witty lines in case anyone asks them about what actually went on. Seriously, how could anyone listen to George W. Bush debate and still vote for him. That idiot cant even read off a teleprompter or rather even finish sentences he thinks of himself.

Posted by: stumilesog | February 26, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

So JakeD,
I'm a veteran of every U.S. conflict since Pearl Harbor, and I support Obama.
Of course, you and I haven't revealed our full names yet, so no one reading these comments has any reason to believe that either you or I ever served in the U.S Armed Forces. Tell you what: Let's reveal our real names and our service numbers, so our fellow readers can see for themselves that you and I truly are military veterans, not a couple of liars.
You first.

Posted by: pierrejc2 | February 26, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Don't be so coy, you right-wing maggots. You know exactly why using the name Hussien was used over and over. It plays to your fellow clansmen's biggotry and lack of intelligence . Winning at any cost is about as un=American as you can get.
This is why our country is in the shape it is. Goobers like this want more of it.They look at this collasal mess and think its great.
They don't give a S$#t about what they can do for this country ,but what this country can do for them.
We're sick of this Mafia/KGB style government.Where no one can know what our leaders are doing in our names,behind closed doors.
We are better than this and deserve better. Well at least most of us do.
All you slime who still defend these incompetent hacks are in for a big let down, so enjoy it while you can.

Posted by: zipzap1960 | February 26, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

It's not the point that he used Obama's middle name. It was the way in which he was using it. He was insinuating that Obama is a terrorist/has ties to terrorists. A notion that is absurd and quite stupid. Something so stupid that only a Republican could agree with it. I could equate such a comment with the NY Times laying out the innuendo concerning McCain and his lobbyist "friend." By the way, being old does not mean you are better for the job. First of all, many of the problems we have in this country stem from old money/old people running this country. This is 2008, NOT the 1950's. Second, just because someone is a veteran does not mean that they have a good character. I know a lot of soldiers who served in a war vietnam/korea/Iraq I and II who have serious character problems.

Posted by: stumilesog | February 26, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

JakeD......I thank God (or Allah) that you're one of the smarter ones.

Posted by: spike | February 26, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Look out, John. If you stop all the race-baiting, hate-spewing and name-calling amongst talk radioland, what is left for the GOP to talk about?

Posted by: steveboyington | February 26, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Why does JakeD keep capitalizing Sen. Obama's middle name in his posts? Huh, JAKE-D? Why? And as long as we're talking names, WTF kind of name is Jake anyway? (if that is your name) And if it isn't your name, you trailer park trash, monster truck loving redneck, what IS your middle name?

Posted by: Paul28 | February 26, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

If you claim something to be true or a fact BACK IT UP with a link to your evidence. If you can't then STFU.

Posted by: troymcclure75 | February 26, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Well---First it was the color of our skin. Now it is a name? I have known many people in my 73 years of life and some of the kindest and nicest were Muslims and some of the worst the so called Chritians.
One more question-- So they took IMUS off the air? How does this person stay on?

Posted by: peep1935 | February 26, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Barack Hussein Obama has already said worse stuff about McCain. He has routinely used innuendo about McCain's age, his ties to Bush, and misquotes him on his position in Iraq. The Times of London is covering Barack's connection to shady Chicago characters. You will not see this while the press in the US has a big O over being near Obama. let us remember, Republicans go to work to pay taxes for all those people who have all day to sit at a Barack Hussein Obama rally. Someone has to pay all those entitlements.

Posted by: Cornell1984 | February 26, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Cunningham said that he was recalling a dream that he had. He should go back to dreaming about gay sex.

Posted by: hamishdad | February 26, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

from cowpatti: all of you numbnuts that are in love with barak whoseinsane obamma know this....he will lead this country to distruction. he is evil, for he is the devil. (he might even be bin ladens illegitimate son) heheheh...

Posted by: cowpatti | February 26, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

McCain himself will try to stay above that kind of playground name calling, but it's pretty much going to be standard fare for a lot of the right-wingers during the election. It's a big problem for McCain because it really turns off Independents and I can easily see McCain being forced to distance himself repeatedly from rabid Republican comments that cross the line. Eventually, it all ties into people's weariness with mean-spirited partisanship and helps Obama.

Posted by: skrut003 | February 26, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

My middle name is Lee, but that doesn't mean I'm about to invade the North.
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ah hah ! Gotcha !

Not only are you related to Robert E Lee
BUT (!)
you're probably also Korean !
(there are more Lee's in Korea than Smith's in the US)
And if you're Korean, and you dare to say something so radical as to question the intelligence of the name callers, then you must be from the North...

...and if you're from the North, you've got them NuKulure weapons !
Double U - M Dees
You've got 'em ! fer real !

(Even worse than those dang Iranians who only WANNA have 'em !)

And you're gonna use 'em to bomb the US !
I just know it !
My preacher told me !

Well, if your name is Lee, by gum by golly,
I'm turnin' the lock around on my front door one more time to save myself from NuKulure holocaust !
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Just one question ?¿?
was Robert E Lee's middle name Elvis ?¿?
and have there been any Robert Elvis Lee sightings lately?
(look it up in the National Enquirer...they'll know !)

Posted by: ersch | February 26, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

It's funny how people like Cunningham, Limbaugh, Colter and other political hacks who have made themselves wealthy spewing this kind of foul excrement under the guise of free speech and then protest loudly about how the 'media' is unfair or unbalanced. At least the mainstream news has to take a stab at telling the truth because we expect it of them. The fans of these wing nuts have no such expectation; they simply want someone out there to reinforce their prejudices. They really have no interest in being informed or challenged. Which may make them feel all warm and fuzzy but it really is destroying this country to have so many of these guys out there with microphones fouling the airwaves with this stuff so we don't think about how under employed and under insured we are; how our infrastructure is going to hell; how in debt we are privately and publicly; how much money were spending in Iraq instead of at home. My question is what positive thing have these people added to Americans' lives. The best thing people can do is turn them off and listen to the candidates themselves and decide for themselves who will do the best for the country. Show a little independence America!

Posted by: rc53 | February 26, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

JakeD: Judging from your comments, I was certain your age was closer to 15, which is a real shame because now I have to live with the knowledge that you can actually vote.

Posted by: hbrew_7 | February 26, 2008 05:28 PM
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Yes, but my point was that we can rejoice in the fact that he won't be voting much longer.

Hopefully in the next few years when the mold and rot of alzheimers starts to set in, he'll forget to order his absentee ballot...

I'm respectful of Republicans like McCain who despite their worldview and unlike neo cons and the talk show hosts are somewhat respectful of my right to my point of view (and even, who would have believed it ! Pat Buchanan as well! !)I have respect for those on the right, like McCain is apparently, who are seemingly willing to, for the most part, debate the issues on their merits and refrain from the typical right wing name calling (all of that started with their false God Ronald Reagan and his "...when the knee jerks..." utterances - from THAT moment on the language of American politics became openly ugly).

But Jaked takes it to the trash and the trash is all that he and his acolytes deserve. On the left we've been WAY too nice, WAY too humble and WAY too self effacing for WAY too long...

We have to take it to the jakeds but not with their inane name calling - just throw the facts in their faces- again again and again and again...

Posted by: ersch | February 26, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone here really think Obama chose his middle name? I think he got it the same way we all did, our parents gave it to us. This is like saying everyone whose parents gave them the name Adolph must be as evil as Hitler was. Or if you were given the name Elvis, does that make you a great singer? The only Hussien we needed to worry about was hanging from the end of a rope the last time I saw him. I'm not an Obama supporter, but really, can't we just stick the the issues here. My middle name is Lee, but that doesn't mean I'm about to invade the North.

Posted by: kingfishman07 | February 26, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

A shameful use of words. These are men of Honor? I think not. Seems like the CONS are going to do business as usual.

I hope America decides to send a message.

Posted by: vance1 | February 26, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Someone ought to fire that low-life, Bill Cunningham.
I'm voting for Barack (I don't care what his middle name is)OBAMA! And if I could vote twice I would... and try to make up for some of the nit-wits out there.

Posted by: rainbird | February 26, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Hey ermias.kifle---Wipe the foreskin out of your eyes dummy. You're reading the wrong Newspaper again.

Posted by: oicic1 | February 26, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

It must feel strange for McCain to be cozying up with the very people that torpedoed his primary campaign in 2000 by using the worst kind of smear politics. I'm sure he probably expected these moments knowing what they are capable of first hand. McCain isn't squeaky clean, but he seems to be an honorable person who did the right thing by not condoning the idiotic rantings of Cunningham.
Right-wing talk show hosts are a very smart bunch. They know what they're doing by using Obama's middle name to sure up support in mindless right-wing circles. I still find it a bit irresponsible. It only takes one kook with that name lodged in his pea-sized brain to take a shot at Obama should the American people choose him as president.
It has always amazed me how many presidents have been lost to this nation by means of the assassin's gun.

Posted by: NittyGritty08 | February 26, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Awesome. Another great day for Cincinnati. I'm so proud to live in this corner of Ohio.

I'd just like to inform non-Cincinnatians of a few things.

1) Cunningham is a shameless publicity hound. I'm sure he actually believes some of the crap he said, but he said it to drum up interest in his slimy little radio show. Used to be, it seemed like if you stuck your head into the windows of 10 cars in Cincinnati, nine of the radios would be tuned to WLW. These days, outside of Reds games, fewer and fewer people listen to "The Big One."

2) Cunningham is the same guy who implied repeatedly on his show and at a Ken Blackwell campaign rally that Ted Strickland -- the democrat running for governor at the time -- is gay and took a trip to Italy with his "boy toy." It sure didn't save Blackwell. Strickland kicked the stuffing out of him on Election Day.

3) As soon as he got on the radio after McCain rebuked him, Cunningham started sniveling about having had it with John McCain, and how he was going to back Hillary Clinton now.

The guy is an overgrown child whose audience is comprised of a dwindling (but loud) personality cult.

And by the way, we all know WHY he repeated Obama's middle name. Cunningham's first amendment rights are irrelevant. We all know he has a right to say Hussein. It's a question of why he wants to say it, and whether it's relevant or just a juvenile stunt.

But even if we overlook that, there's still the matter of all the other lies he told on that stage. I don't hear anyone defending that slop.

Posted by: jmroberts1979 | February 26, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Bravo Ersch


JakeD: Judging from your comments, I was certain your age was closer to 15, which is a real shame because now I have to live with the knowledge that you can actually vote.

Posted by: hbrew_7 | February 26, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Barry HUSSIEN (مدرسة ) pic is sucide bomber belt before he pray to east after he washed his feel face and behind.

Posted by: ermias.kifle | February 26, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

This is a ridiculous article. Making fun of an apposing candidates name is a time honored tradition. I remember Ann Richards "Poor George" speech at the democratic national convention. It was a great speech. I can not count how many times the current president of the United States has been referred to as "Dub-ya". How about "Slick Willie" Clinton or "Slicky Dick" Nixon?

Lighten up!!!!!

I am a Gulf War Veteran and lifelong Democrat who supports McCain. In this case he was wrong to apologize. Keeping the debate respectful is important but no-one should spend this much energy on a little mild teasing.

Posted by: michael_boldt | February 26, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Barry HUSSIEN (مدرسة ) is a sucide bomber?

With his Muslim dress on, he looks like s sucide bomber

Posted by: ermias.kifle | February 26, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

I think it is perfectly fine for anyone to use Senator Obama's middle name. In addition, it's nice to see Barack change it up from the normal suit attire and show off his Somali couture. Actually, I'm eagerly anticipating the deluge of Republican smear tactics and creative stories lines once Obama is named the primary candidate for the dems. Maybe the Republicans are trying to build their resume for possible jobs at US Weekly or E! News. They will need something to do after the Republican Party as we know it ceases to exist. The failed policies of the current administration got that ball rolling and the Regan like win by Obama in November will seal the deal.

Posted by: gibsonflower | February 26, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

sequoiaqueneaux, you IS so Another Angry woman

Posted by: ermias.kifle | February 26, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Barry HUSSIEN (مدرسة )

I can't wait to see his pics praying to the East and kissing the ground

Posted by: ermias.kifle | February 26, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

sequoiaqueneaux,
Vote Nadar!!!!

Posted by: ermias.kifle | February 26, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

His middle name will be on BALLOT...
HUSSIEN MADRASA

Posted by: ermias.kifle | February 26, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

ermias.LOSER.kifle wrote:

"I will never vote Baarry HUSSIEN Obama"
_________________

GOOD! You're an as*hole and we don't want you.

Posted by: sequoiaqueneaux | February 26, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

God Help us from ANOTHER ANGRY BLACK WOMEN - Mrs Hussien Obama.

Posted by: ermias.kifle | February 26, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

sequoiaqueneaux,


I will never vote Baarry HUSSIEN Obama

Posted by: ermias.kifle | February 26, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Baarry HUSSIEN Obama
Baarry HUSSIEN Obama
Baarry HUSSIEN Obama
Baarry HUSSIEN Obama
Baarry HUSSIEN Obama
Baarry HUSSIEN Obama

Posted by: ermias.kifle | February 26, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

ermias.kifle wrote:

"I am a DEMOCRAT, but I will never VOTE for Barry HUSSIEN MADRASA Obama."
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Good! We don't need idiots like you on our side and frankly, we'll be better off without you.

Posted by: sequoiaqueneaux | February 26, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

JakeD says that he is a Korea vet. At least 20+ yrs old in 1952: that means he is at least 75 years old. Fortunately, his years are numbered. - As the years pass by, his generation is becoming seriously outnumbered by those that came of age in the sixties and afterwards. Soon the generation of the "Know Nothings" - the last generation with white racists in the majority- ("Greatest Generation" my a-- TBrokaw eat dirt ! ! !) will be DEAD.

(And I know that generation very well - as a white 50 yr old, both of my parents come from that generation)

Through the process of evolution many of us have grown beyond our heritage and as Americans, it's something that we can be collectively proud of. It's time now for change: for a REAL Greatest Generation: to help rise America up to the level of its' idea of itself. In the midst of our profound pessimism, which now in 2008 is worse than it has ever been, a pessimism that has lasted for nearly for 40 years now, who would have ever thought that a figure like Obama would arrive to hint at a possible optimism(!) at a possible REAL greatness(?)for our country - a country that has lost its' path.

Once JakeD and his generation is dead, this Cunningham character(did anyone look at his photo - he looks like a ghost ! - or worse...), along with Rush Limbaugh and his ilk will be so irrelevant no one will even have to think about sending them to Guantanamo. They'll just stew away in their sauce while we finally get to work trying to rebuild America again. And once it's rebuilt, we can start to create the "shining city on the hill" that never existed - that we knew NEVER existed - that we never thought could ever exist but now appears could possibly, just maybe, if we work hard enough actually come to pass. Of course, nothing is sure with Obama and there are A LOT OF LOOSE ENDS in his discourse. But Lord almighty jake D, I just think that maybe, possibly, hopefully YOUR SAD CHAPTER IS DONE !

AMEN

Posted by: ersch | February 26, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

I am a DEMOCRAT, but I will never VOTE for Barry HUSSIEN MADRASA Obama.

According to Black people Clinton was the FIRST BLACK PRESDIENT, Now they called the Clintons RACIST. If you don't have anything good to say about Barry HUSSIEN MADRASA Obama you are RACIST

If you do not VOTE For,
Baarry MADRASA HUSSIEN Obama, YOU IS SO RACIST. hhmmmmmm

You don't like
Baarry HUSSIEN MADRASA Obama, YOU IS SO RACIST. hmmmmm

Baarry HUSSIEN MADRASA Obama's Wife is a real RACIST
God Help us for ANOTHER ANGRY BLACK WOMEN

======================================
I am a DEMOCRAT, but I will never VOTE for Barry HUSSIEN MADRASA Obama.

According to Black people Clinton was the FIRST BLACK PRESDIENT, Now they called the Clintons RACIST. If you don't have anything good to say about Barry HUSSIEN MADRASA Obama you are RACIST

If you do not VOTE For,
Baarry MADRASA HUSSIEN Obama, YOU IS SO RACIST. hhmmmmmm

You don't like
Baarry HUSSIEN MADRASA Obama, YOU IS SO RACIST. hmmmmm

Baarry HUSSIEN MADRASA Obama's Wife is a real RACIST
God Help us for ANOTHER ANGRY BLACK WOMEN

Posted by: ermias.kifle | February 26, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse


JakeD wrote:

"You mean President George WALKER Bush, right?"
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Thanks for proving my point. How many times have you heard or read that? About zero.

So grow up and get a new line.

Or don't. It doesn't matter because your playground tactics will only work on idiots who would never vote for Barack HUSSEIN Obama anyway.


Posted by: sequoiaqueneaux | February 26, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Mr. JakeD, Barack Obama did in fact attend two schools in Indonesia: a secular public school (which you have agreed is true) and a Catholic school (which, last time I checked, was not a madrassa). Here are several links for your perusal:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16813267/
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/

(Funny...I didn't think a school named after St. Francis Assisi was a madrassa, but it looks like you showed me!)

As several of the above posters said, there are many valid reasons why one can oppose Barack Obama. Believing chain e-mails without researching them is not one of them, and it paints you as ignorant.

Posted by: JSileikis | February 26, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Someone who attended school from age 6-10 in a foreign Muslim country (and one of his parents WAS/IS muslim); it does make one think. By age 10, people are accustomed/acquainted with certain beliefs/rituals/customs that are practiced in their homes. Whether Obama is Muslim or not - which, to me, WOULD be a concern (and I will NOT apologize for that) is just one part of is 'worrisome' 'traits'. But the most scary part of him IS HIS ISSUES - HIS PROPOSED POLICIES and how he 'aims' to go about them (which, he DOESN'T say, in detail). I don't want my country to be turned into a government-controlled, socialist nanny, welfare state - shared with MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS that he WANTS TO GIVE DRIVERS LICENSES TO, and then AFTERWARDS, GIVE THEM CITIZENSHIP.

Who is he planning on working for??? The illegal aliens and our enemy countries???? You 'followers', 'groupies' or 'sheep', blindly follow him and I don't know why. And for you white people, why do you support someone whose church centers around 'Black' values - everything, like the Hispanic LaRaza ('everything for the race') centers ONLY around blacks. Doesn't his church believe in helping, administering to whites/reds/tans? Sounds like a racist church to me - but oh, I guess whites are the only ones who are racists! What a joke!

Posted by: brendy | February 26, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

JakeD.

No.

You typed the quote as "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

What Senator Obama actually said was "In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

Nowhere in that quote does he ever say "Muslims", so it's not even right as a paraphrase.

Come on. I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt -- that you just read that quote inaccurately somewhere and repeated it without fact-checking. What you're showing me is that you want to go on willfully misquoting. Saying "I think it's been proven I quoted accurately from his book" doesn't make it true.

Posted by: dswanson | February 26, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

bbussey:

I read that as a pledge to operate in good faith towards an agreement -- Obama's Op Ed in the USAToday makes it clear he is no longer abiding by that pledge -- not sure what you thought I meant instead.

sequoiaqueneaux:

You mean President George WALKER Bush, right?

Posted by: JakeD | February 26, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Actually, Truman is supposed to have been christened with a middle initial but no middle name. Actually this is a canard and subterfuge to hide the fact that it was Saddam.

Posted by: aprilglaspie | February 26, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't be surprised if Obama is trying to get Michael Jackson's endorsement!

Posted by: trace-sc | February 26, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

JakeD wrote:

"Still not sure why it is "disparaging" to use Obama's real middle name..."
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So you're not using it disparagingly to whip up (or more likely, mimick) ignorant xenophobic hysteria among the idiotic 30% of Americans who might actually care?

Well, we don't believe you. You're a liar. Just like your super-awesome president GW Bush.

When you start using ALL politicians' middle names in everyday conversation, you might have a point. Until then, you just appear as a stupid kid on the playgroud who is jealous of the smart and motivated kids.

Go Barack HUSSEIN Obama!

Posted by: sequoiaqueneaux | February 26, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

JakeD wrote: "too bad no one from the Washington Post thought to ask Mr. Burton if Obama will abide by his pledge to accept public financing if there is a McCain-Obama general election."

Obama didn't make any such pledge. He filled out a questionnaire with this exact response:

"Yes. I have been a long-time advocate for public financing of campaigns combined with free television and radio time as a way to reduce the influence of moneyed special interests. I introduced public financing legislation in the Illinois State Senate, and am the only 2008 candidate to have sponsored Senator Russ Feingold's (D-WI) bill to reform the presidential public financing system. In February 2007, I proposed a novel way to preserve the strength of the public financing system in the 2008 election. My plan requires both major party candidates to agree on a fundraising truce, return excess money from donors, and stay within the public financing system for the general election. My proposal followed announcements by some presidential candidates that they would forgo public financing so they could raise unlimited funds in the general election. The Federal Election Commission ruled the proposal legal, and Senator John McCain (R-AZ) has already pledged to accept this fundraising pledge. If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election."

Can one make the inference that Obama "pledged" here? One can if not paying attention. But the only agreement stated here is that he would work to form an agreement with his opponent to accept public financing.

It's fine to support your candidate of choice, JakeD, but it is extremely disappointing to see you post so many distortions which are easily disputed. It greatly lessens the credibility of the few valid posts that you do submit to these boards. If you have policy differences, by all means let them be known. But the juvenile bigoted snippets and commentary that you've consistently been pushing week after week has truly diminished your standing here.

Posted by: bbussey | February 26, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

P.S. -- I also sided with Franklin DELANO Roosevelt during WWII -- I'm sorry that innocent Americans were put into internment camps because of the war, but I will side with AMERICA if that becomes necessary again. What's next, you guys bash Harry S_____ Truman for dropping A-bombs to stop the war? It was either that, or keep all those Japanese-AMERICANS in camps!!!

Posted by: JakeD | February 26, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

For the record, of course, those are not the actual middle names of Bush, Cheney, or Cindy McCain. Still not sure why it is "disparaging" to use Obama's real middle name -- I think it's been proven I quoted accurately from his book too -- if he's so sensitive to things like this, what if the Russians actualy DO something against the U.S.?

Posted by: JakeD | February 26, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Yesterday, Hillary was accused of circulating a picture of Obama wearing an african dress, that has been in the net since august 2006

http://www.geeskaafrika.com/ethiopia_31aug06.htm

Today, McCain apologized for someone using Obama's full name.

Tomorrow, we should all apologize because Obama is neither full white nor full black.

Why the Prophet is so insecure about his legacy, name and color?

Posted by: trace-sc | February 26, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

JakeD,
You've already been corrected on the actual quote under another thread. If you're going to quote Senator Obama's work, at least do it accurately.

In the quote you (inaccurately) reference, Senator Obama was defending American citizens who are Muslim and who have been, to our collective shame, victimized by our government and religious bigots here at home.

The actual quote (as you well know by now) is "In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

You may remember that Senator Obama wrote those words at a time when some elected officials were musing on the idea of internment camps for Muslims in America, including citizens (including Rep. Howard Coble, R-NC).

Stop the hate. Speak the truth.

Posted by: dswanson | February 26, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

btw JakeD, when you post that supposed quote from Obama's book, you should either post the correct quote as it appears in the book, or identify which parts have been altered.

The line as you have posted it appears NOWHERE in his book, because whoever created that quote that you continue to cite has replaced the word "them" with "the Muslims". And if you look at the entire quote in context, you will see that what he is really saying is that if Muslim Americans are going to be scapegoated and/or the victims of racial persecution by bigoted neighbors or even government officials, he plans to side with the innocent Americans, who, yes, happen to be Muslim, and who are being persecuted only because they are, or appear to be, Muslim.

I did, and still do, the EXACT same thing. I am not siding with radical terrorists who use religion, any religion, as a means to exploit the poor and ignorant in order to increase political power. I am siding with innocent people who are being persecuted unjustly.

Posted by: gkouye | February 26, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse


Hi! I'm a Republican. I'm an ignorant yahoo and funny names confuse and frighten me. You too? Not really? Oh, okay, well they confuse and frighten a lot of Americans. Since that's pretty much all can come up with 'cuz we're stoopid and wrong about everything, we're going to keep repeating it over and over again. I'm sure we'll lose less badly if we make sure everybody knows Barack Obama's middle name is Hussein! And guess what? His last name *rhymes* with Osama! That means he's obviously a terrorist!

9/11!

Posted by: sequoiaqueneaux | February 26, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

I have nothing against Cindy "Percocet Thief" McCain, and I think Cindy "Percocet Thief" McCain would make a lovely First Lady. I am an Obama supporter, so should we expect the Obama campaign to issue a statement disassociating themselves from my words. Sorry...I apologize..I want to maintain a level playing field..I will never call Cindy McCain a "Percocet Thief" again

Posted by: soonipi6 | February 26, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

What's the problem with Obama middle name...no one seems to complain about George Forrest-Gump Bush or Dick Kunta Cheney.

Posted by: logcabin1836 | February 26, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

sheeraz_abc:

You're welcome (I guess).

kathleenrjohnson:

That's not exactly the "complete" quote nor is it "completely" different than what I posted -- you are correct that my quote should have read: "I will stand with [the Muslims] should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." -- unless you are claiming he was NOT referring to Muslims? BTW: what page did you find that on?

Posted by: JakeD | February 26, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

For a man who cheated on his first wife and married his then girlfriend now his second wife (would they call her "First Homewrecker"?), for someone deeply involved in the Keating Five scandal, who has 59 lobbyists on his campaign staff, who now sucks up to Bush and the same religious right-wing nuts that stabbed him in the back in South Carolina in 2000...he has no room to criticize anyone, and I mean ...anyone.

Posted by: logcabin1836 | February 26, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

YOu know he has a point. Obama suporters think Obama walks on water and that he will be MR unifier. He will talk to dictaors and hope change yes we can nonsense. Well NOT. This is the beginning of the assault form the right. And Obama is not the big old change agent that basically duped voters are thinking. Please vote for HRC!

Cunningham said
The radio host told the crowd he'd had a dream about "Barack Hussein Obama's wonderful life a year from today." In the dream, he said, Obama was president and had just met with Iranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and was set to meet with North Korean leader Kim Jon Il. Then, Cunningham said, Obama was going to "saddle up" to Hezbollah.

"All's going to be right with the world when the great prophet from Chicago takes the stand, and the world leaders who want to kill us will simply be singing ["Kumbaya"] together around the table with Barack Obama," Cunningham continued.

Posted by: politicalobserver1 | February 26, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse


JakeD wrote:

"As I pointed out above, Barack HUSSEIN Obama also attended a RELIGIOUS private school in Indonesia -- look it up at snopes.com if you don't believe be -- and I am not so sure about the non-religious one back then either."
________________________

That's great! I went to a Catholic school and I'm not Catholic. We also had Muslims, Jews, non-religious people and other non-Catholic Christians. I learned a lot about different kinds of people.

I think it's fantastic that Barack HUSSEIN Obama has a worldly upbringing and a worldview that extends past our borders (and not only vis-a-vis WAR). I think its vital that the next president have an understanding of the Muslim world that goes beyond ignorant fear or sucking off repressive oil monarchs.

Of course there are about 30% of Americans (not surprisingly the last remaining Bush supporters) who think world knowledge, respect for foreign cultures (and (naturally funny names that confuse and frighten them) are BAD things. They like their Presidents stupid, culturally and linguistically retarded and religiously extreme. The childish and ignorant tactics JakeD is using here actually *will* work on those hicks.

But you'll still lose.

Posted by: sequoiaqueneaux | February 26, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

"[H]is middle name should be NOT qualified to be [P]resident"?

Posted by: JakeD | February 26, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse


Obama calls the Iraq war "a botched and ill-advised U.S. military incursion into a Muslim country." He is also protective of civil rights for Muslims in the U.S.
JakeD and anyone else: Here is the complete quote from Audacity of Hope by Barack Obama:

"In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans ... have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging," he laments. "I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

Now, that is a completely different quote than what you posted. Don't you people have any shame?

Posted by: kathleenrjohnson | February 26, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Jake_d!
I am looking up my dead granny's records. I am still not sure as to what kind of school she attended as a kid. I might have to see her whole character in a new light now.

Posted by: sheeraz_abc | February 26, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

"I love my country but am not proud of the people sometimes."

I'm with you on that one.

Just as reprehensible is the name-calling the other way (hillbillies, 110 years old, wingnuts, etc.). Don't think for a minute the Obama campaign won't try to have an age-ism sub-text to their message.

There is more than enough issues here to disagree with. All of this other stuff is self-defeating. Do you people who spout this brain-washing junk actually think you are damaging Obama? The earlier poster was correct - it backfires. If you don't believe it, ask Hillary how much good Bill did for her campaign in his SC remarks. The revulsion was almost universal.

Posted by: tombell513 | February 26, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

haddmm:

"None really"? Just like the current Air National Guard members sacrificing in Iraq and Afghanistan? You make me sick.
________________________________

JakeD

How dare you insult our current Guard members in Iraq and Afghanistan by comparing their service to what President Bush's calls service.

That is laughable.

Posted by: haddmm | February 26, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

I don;t care what his middle name is becasue his middle name should be NOT qualified to be president.

Posted by: politicalobserver1 | February 26, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

pbitondo4U:

Thank you for pointing out the obvious. Now, have you ever seen the original movie "The Manchurian Candidate"?

Posted by: JakeD | February 26, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

sheeraz_abc:

Was it the same when Barack HUSSEIN Obama attended? Besides, I am talking about the other school he attended in Indonesia -- you know he attended TWO while there, right?

haddmm:

"None really"? Just like the current Air National Guard members sacrificing in Iraq and Afghanistan? You make me sick.

Posted by: JakeD | February 26, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

There is no way that the McCain Campaign did not no about Bill Cunningham. He has been around Cincinnati for years. A known bloviator and Clinton hater and a general Democrat Hater. He is always making "news" on our local Clear Channel station WLW T. The McCain Campaign knew what he was likely to say, and they invited him anyway. Shame on you McCain Campaign. An Independent from Cincinnati, OH

Posted by: nfinkel | February 26, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

"May I ask what military experience our current president, Mr. Bush, had prior to running for president.

Oh that's right. None really."
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Not true. He did have military experience. I believe the official term is AWOL.

Posted by: wpost4112 | February 26, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Obama doesn't support terrorist leaders.
He just simplistic in his world view.
He'll grow up after a crisis on his watch.

Posted by: hhkeller | February 26, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Hey JakeD,

I know a lot of people that attended Catholic schools that were not Catholic. There parents chose to put them in those schools.

I took a college class on many different religions but that doesn't mean I practice those religions. I was interested in learning about these religions because it provides insight into the way people that practice a certain religion think.

Keep grasping.

Posted by: haddmm | February 26, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

I lived in Indonesia for five years. My daughter attended the public school which is called a madrassah there. It was a secular institution. In Indonesian that is the word for school. However, in Pakistan the Urdu word for a Quaranny school is Madrassa. Words are sometimes spelled the same with different meanings, ie. rendevous in French as compared to the same word in English or actual in English compared to the same word in French It's unfair what you people imagine, embellish and write as facts. I love my country but am not proud of the people sometimes.

Posted by: pbitondo4U | February 26, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Please, can we all get along? I am rather embarrassed by all of the unprofessionalism shown by media figure Bill Cunningham and the political rethorics of John McCain and Hillary Clinton when attacking US Senator Barack Obama. If I were them (Thanks God I am not), what am I going to tell to my own family when they ask why I have turned so vicious, bigot and racist? Time will tell who was the biggest "fraud." In the meantime get used to wet your pants and spell the name of our next US President right: BARACK OABAMA.

Posted by: doctormiguel | February 26, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

And Obama hasn't kissed Saudis shieks on the lips like Bush has.

Posted by: bushisacrook | February 26, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

May I ask what military experience our current president, Mr. Bush, had prior to running for president.

Oh that's right. None really.

Posted by: haddmm | February 26, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

What a laugh- all Cons can come up against Obama is his middle name, which he had no control over. What a pathetic bunch of losers Cons are. They've ruined the USA.

Posted by: bushisacrook | February 26, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

All fun-poking set aside, we need a strong leader that will recover our deficit and lead this country out of a recession. The american people are ready for some new mindsets.

Posted by: rupert19632003 | February 26, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

How is a school religious?
The school's director was interviewed on CNN. He said it wasn't religious. People of many different religions and nationalities were attending. It wasn't the Taliban recruiting center that the media is setting it out to be. You watch Fox News too much.

Posted by: sheeraz_abc | February 26, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

As I pointed out above, Barack HUSSEIN Obama also attended a RELIGIOUS private school in Indonesia -- look it up at snopes.com if you don't believe be -- and I am not so sure about the non-religious one back then either.

Posted by: JakeD | February 26, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

I'm a Nam Vet. and John McCain has my VOTE!!!!!!!!

Posted by: butch6631 | February 26, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Wow, it is surprising how ignorant some people can be. I have seen madrassahs. They are religious schools, where you only learn Quran and nothing else. Barack Obama went to a public school in Indonesia, where religion wasn't really emphasized that much. Every school in a muslim country isn't a madrassah.
Obama is in his 40s. The last time I checked, McCain was a 110 years old. He can hardly travel as much and speaks in a barely audible whisper. How is he going to last through 8 years of a grueling presidency?

Posted by: sheeraz_abc | February 26, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

tombell513:

No, because "The Manchurian Candidate" hypothesis is more probable than space invaders.

Posted by: JakeD | February 26, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

McCain has class and honor. I hope he does well and wish him the best.

GOP would do better without the hillbillies and other clansmen asking about Obama's heritage when they fully know what it is or could easily find out by going to Obama's campaign website.

Obama was right when he said that he's tough enough since he is black and named Hussein running for President of US of A. What a great country (even with the West Virginia hillbillies and Ohio clansmen)!

Posted by: ctom2008 | February 26, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

I love it. From the posters on this blog we get McCain's new election slogan:

P A R A N O I A
we can believe in!

Can't wait for the general election!

Posted by: wpost4112 | February 26, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

And thus, the McCain campaign elevates the level of political discourse in the United States of America to the level of stepped on dogsh*t. Keep it up gentleman, that level of right-wing vitriol will cement the Republican Party knee-deep into the divisive politics of the late 20th century and leave them behind in the 21st. Kick and scream all you like, you simply crystallize your irrelevance to a new generation of voters.

Posted by: thebobbob | February 26, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Kudos to McCain for being bigger than that. It'd be nice to see a general election where the candidates are both fundamentally honest, for once.

Posted by: davestickler | February 26, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

I've seen it. I also understand the distinction between fiction and truth.

Are you going to bring up "Men in Black" next?

Posted by: tombell513 | February 26, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Rolla:

Sidney.

tombell:

It's just a hypothesis -- you never saw "The Manchurian Candidate"?

Posted by: JakeD | February 26, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

I see that this article was "updated" above -- I wish there was some way to denote the original post from "updated" post, i.e.:

A spokesman for Obama said that "We appreciate Senator McCain's remarks. It is a sign that if there is a McCain-Obama general election, it can be intensely competitive but the candidates will attempt to keep it respectful and focused on issues," said Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton.

That was not in the original post -- neither was the Portman quotes -- too bad no one from the Washington Post thought to ask Mr. Burton if Obama will abide by his pledge to accept public financing if there is a McCain-Obama general election.

Posted by: JakeD | February 26, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

"How many of those voters do you think Obama is willing to write off vs. McCain?"

You mean how many of those who believe he has been brainwashed by the radical Muslim's? He's probably willing to write off all of them, and McCain is hoping they all just go away.

It is an ignorant idea with no basis in fact.

There is plenty of actual reasons to oppose Obama without pulling stuff out of your tin-foil hat.

Posted by: tombell513 | February 26, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

JakeD - quick question, what's McCain's middle name?

Posted by: RollaMO | February 26, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

The world is a changed place and we must look anew...
Several years ago, the buzz was all about "a new paradigm", a new way of thinking based around distinct new realities. Well, the increased involvement of voters in this election, the expanded use of the computer in communication over the internet, the impact of massive substantive involvement, interaction and fundraising is creating "a new political paradigm" that will expand into other institutional areas of American Life. All those new internet donors (self included) are going to want something for their money, a more effective government that reflects their views.
There are three distinct stages in the establishment of a manifest, Belief, Faith and Fruition. In this political phenomena we now witness, the first stage of Belief was in our constitution when it says "all men are created equal", the second is Faith, when people acted and prepared themselves based on that belief. Senator Obama's Campaign is an endpoint in an evolutionary process that begins with 'All men are created equal." This remarkable moment is what Dr. King predicted when he advised the Sanitation Workers in Memphis and the World that "I might not get there with you, but we are going to reach the Promised Land". The Promised Land was not "pie in the sky", it was a place where men would be judged by the "content of their character". The American People's response to this probable event marks a special place in African American history and the history of our Country. The result of this event will set the stage for the continued rise or fall of the greatest civilization in the world.

Posted by: transway | February 26, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

I'm actually registered Independent, marksmelzer. How many of those voters do you think Obama is willing to write off vs. McCain?

Posted by: JakeD | February 26, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

oh my god...please let more of you right-wing wingnuts step forward with the "hypothesis that he was brainwashed or is a willing Arab secret agent"...you'll only further the cause of the first politician to inspire the masses in a generation...

Posted by: marksmelzer | February 26, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Besides, I never denied the intent of it. Only that is was fair game. And the Dems are the masters of race-baiting. See commments, above.

Posted by: tombell513 | February 26, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

"t's disparaging because the Republicans are bigots and we all know that's why they're using the name. They're not using it because it sounds funny or out of respect - they're using it as code to their other bigoted, racist friends that this man "might" be something that all evidence points out he is not."

You mean like Bill Clinton's comments in the SC primary?

Or like Hillary's comments after the SC primary?

You mean racist, like that?

Posted by: tombell513 | February 26, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

"this is "important" to my hypothesis that he was brainwashed or is a willing Arab secret agent."

No point trying to defend the Republic cause here with "friends" like this...

Posted by: tombell513 | February 26, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

It's disparaging because the Republicans are bigots and we all know that's why they're using the name. They're not using it because it sounds funny or out of respect - they're using it as code to their other bigoted, racist friends that this man "might" be something that all evidence points out he is not. It doesn't disparage him by the fact that it's his name, it's the intent with which it is used. You can continue to lie and show your total lack of character by denying the intent of using it - but we all see through that. Fortunately, more people in America are starting to see through it too and realizing how much damage bigots like this and within this thread do to our country and our politics.

Posted by: balthasar78 | February 26, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

So, I guess people who were impressed with the "Presidential" middle name of Jefferson were also stupid?

Actually, I think the answer is "yes" -- same for those who are actually swayed by the name "Hussain". But, those who USE those names for the almost guaranteed emotional effect are NOT stupid. They are also not being disparaging. Well, maybe using "Jefferson" was being disparaging of our 3rd President, as things actually turned out.

Posted by: tombell513 | February 26, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Obama also attended a RELIGIOUS private school in Indonesia -- and I am not so sure about the non-religious one either -- this is "important" to my hypothesis that he was brainwashed or is a willing Arab secret agent.

Posted by: JakeD | February 26, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

John McCain, and it drew a paltry 400 persons. At the same time, Obama is drawing 20,000 to his rallies

**********

So, by your brilliant logic, Obama will beat McCain by a ratio of 50 to 1, right? Keep dreaming. Admittedly this is a tough year for the Republican party, but this election will be a lot closer than you overconfident Democrats think.

Posted by: lord_voldemort_02 | February 26, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

"It's just the facts, ma'am, just the facts."

Strange notion of facts, since you drew a conclusion about the political ramifications of the crowds. But, opinion as fact seems to be the normal situation for Dems.

Posted by: tombell513 | February 26, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

""Madrasa" is the Arabic word for school -- I agree that one was a "public" madrasa -- but the other was indeed "religious"."
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For a few years when he was a boy, Obama attended a non-religious public school in Indonesia. Why is this important?

Posted by: wpost4112 | February 26, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

My own father's middle name was "Adolph," not a popular name to carry in his generation following WW2. People who insisted on using it were typically John Birch Society idiots ... the same as folks who make something of Obama's name in this age.

Neither of them CHOSE their middle names. Of course, most right wingers didn't choose to be born stupid, either....

Posted by: lostnoz | February 26, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Now Let's see if Obama has the guts to repudiate Louis Farrakhan's endorsement on the grounds that he is a divisive hate mongering racist.

Prediction: It'll Never happen...Obama NEVER apologizes for ANYTHING. But he WILL come up with an Obama/Axelrod con line to sidestep the facts, as usual. And right now his "believers" will swallow anything he throws at them. "We Want Change!!!...We Want Change!!!...We Want Change!!!...Yes We Can!!!...Yes We Can!!!...Yes We Can!!!..."
God help us if he's actually elected.

Posted by: typhoon99 | February 26, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

pixelpshr:

You'll have to be a bit more specific as to what exactly you think was "debunked".

Posted by: JakeD | February 26, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

wpost4112:

"Madrasa" is the Arabic word for school -- I agree that one was a "public" madrasa -- but the other was indeed "religious".

Posted by: JakeD | February 26, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

jaked:
"Good question -- you also know that little Barack HUSSEIN Obama spent several years in Indonesia at madrasas (Arabic: مدرسة ) right?"

Thoroughly debunked. You should know better, Jake.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

Posted by: pixelpshr | February 26, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, that should be "Dan" Quayle.

Posted by: JakeD | February 26, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

"Comparing crowds for an afterthought primary vs one for a battle ground do-or-die primary is silly."

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It's just the facts, ma'am, just the facts.

Posted by: wpost4112 | February 26, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

John Sidney McCain III
John Forbes Kerry
Albert Arnold "Al" Gore, Jr. (I was wrong on that one)
Robert Joseph "Bob" Dole
James Danforth "Bob" Quayle (I knew that one)
Michael Stanley Dukakis
Walter Frederick "Fritz" Mondale
Nelson Aldrich Rockefeller
Gerald Rudolph Ford, Jr.

Posted by: JakeD | February 26, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Comparing crowds for an afterthought primary vs one for a battle ground do-or-die primary is silly.

Posted by: tombell513 | February 26, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Watching McCain "rally" right now...looks like a small crowd grabbed from the local restrictedcountry club...with one black guy placed front and center to give that "inclusive" feel....probably the guy who holds the door at the club.

Looking better by the moment for the Dems.

Posted by: wpost4112 | February 26, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

bsimon, you must be young. Everybody knew their middle names during the campaign. It was well known that it we William Jefferson Clinton and John Fitzgerald Kennedy, etc., while they were running for the nomination.

Democrats, in particular, seem to have a fascination with their candidate's middle name. Until now.

The reason everybody DOESN'T know B.O.'s middle name is because his campaign doesn't want people to know, so they don't talk about it.

And, I find it hilarious that using it is deemed "disparaging". Yes, it was used intentionally because of what it actually IS and because of the chord that would strike. Just like "Jefferson" was used. Just like Kerry liked to use JFK. Fair game both ways.

Posted by: tombell513 | February 26, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

bsimon:

Barack HUSSEIN Obama will not be sworn in as President on January 20, 2009.

Posted by: JakeD | February 26, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

John F. Kerry, right?

Last night on "Jeopardy" they finally stumped me on a politics category -- LOSING Vice Presidential candidates -- I will look up the middle names above and be right back.

Posted by: JakeD | February 26, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

"you also know that little Barack HUSSEIN Obama spent several years in Indonesia at madrasas (Arabic: مدرسة ) right?"


I bet some people wet their pants every time they contemplate the likelihood that this man will be our next President.

Posted by: bsimon | February 26, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

What a sad state of affairs.Still no one,in either party,that I would be proud to vote for and have as President of this great country.Where is that "one"individual that can motivate,inspire and lead me?

Posted by: dragontailjunkie | February 26, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

JakeD writes
"Hillary's middle name is Diane or Diana -- and I think "Mitt" is Romney's actual middle name -- I would have to look up McCain's middle name though. If I had to guess, I would say it's the same middle name as his father."


It's rather interesting that so many people know & use Sen Obama's middle name, yet have to guess (and thus don't use) the middle names of the other candidates. You are correct on Romney, by the way; his first name is Willard.

Posted by: bsimon | February 26, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

"Good question -- you also know that little Barack HUSSEIN Obama spent several years in Indonesia at madrasas (Arabic: مدرسة ) right?"

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Not right. It was an Indonesian public school, not a Muslim madrasas.

Posted by: wpost4112 | February 26, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Albert C.? Gore, Jr.
Bob Dole?
Micheal Dukakis
Walter Mondale (I know his daughter's name is Eleanor)
Gerald R. Ford

Posted by: JakeD | February 26, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

mariocaldarone:

Good question -- you also know that little Barack HUSSEIN Obama spent several years in Indonesia at madrasas (Arabic: مدرسة ) right?

Posted by: JakeD | February 26, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

"EVERYBODY knows the answer to those questions"

those are former presidents. You'd have to go through the losers bracket to conduct a comparable test. Lets start with:

Al Gore
Bob Dole
Dukakis (can't even think of his first name)
Walter Mondale
Gerald Ford (he, he was a Pres too!)

et cetera.

Posted by: bsimon | February 26, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD: "Obama's middle name is "Hussein" right?"

McCain's first name is "John," right? That's the name of the prince who persecuted Robin Hood and was forced to sign the Magna Carta. And "Jake"--isn't that the "Snake"'s first name, too? Oooh....Names are soooo scary. Boo! (And I mean "boo" two ways, Snake.)

Posted by: edwcorey | February 26, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

voter2:

I am a Korean War vet, and I support John McCain.

Posted by: JakeD | February 26, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

The question we need to explore about John McCain as President is what permanent damage did 5 years as a prisoner of war do to him. He seems intent on killing everybody he considers his enemy. Do we really want a loony like tkis with his hands on the button?

Posted by: marcopolo511 | February 26, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

What was John Kennedy's middle name?
What was Lyndon Johnson's middle name?
What was Richard Nixon's middle name?
What is Bill Clinton's middle name?
What is George H. W. Bush's middle names?

EVERYBODY knows the answer to those questions.

Face it, B. O. wants to hide his middle name. Since he wants to hide it, using it is, by media definition, a disparaging name. But, this rule only applies to Democrats. It is not possible to say anything officially disparaging about a Republican. Just ask the NY Times.

Posted by: tombell513 | February 26, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Cunningham and Deters are the quality type people McCain attracts. Apologize profusely John??? It's like putting toothpaste back in the tube. The smirk, the grin, and 'my friend' should retire. He sure is not representing the people of Arizona. I'm a Viet Nam era vet and he sure does not represent me. We DO NOT NEED THIS GUY IN CHARGE OF ANYTHING, and by judging the company he keeps he won't!!!

Posted by: voter2 | February 26, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

The real story here is not the vitriol of Republican partisans, but the fact that this was a rally for the party's presumptive nominee, John McCain, and it drew a paltry 400 persons. At the same time, Obama is drawing 20,000 to his rallies. The Republicans have a great deal more to worry about than a couple of loose canons spewing bile.

Posted by: Stonecreek | February 26, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Well I for one now strongly support Mr. McCain, because nothing seems more presidential than complicity in fomenting fear and anger based on straw-man arguments, over-simplifications, and mischaracterizations. What could possibly work better in foreign policy or domestic collaboration? Seriously, this is the best the GOP could put forward? (Nice that Mr. McCain waited until after the speech to "condemn" the remarks. Yes, how bold.)

Posted by: ncooty | February 26, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Obama's middle name is indeed Hussein. There's no problem with using someone's middle name unless you're using it specifically to ridicule or suggest something that certainly isn't true. My question is why is the right wing so obsessed with Barack Obama's middle name? It seems to me that when you have to resort to picking on someone's name it's because you don't have anything else and you're grasping at straws. Either that or you're eight years old on the playground. Which is it? I'd really like to know.

Posted by: mwthee | February 26, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

"From Barack HUSSEIN Obama's book Audacity of Hope:

I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

That's a nice quote, jakeD. Of course it is utterly meaningless without any context around it and for all anyone knows here is completely fictitious, much like the email accusations of Obama being a muslim.
All you are doing is displaying your ignorance and your ability to be led like a sheep by falsehoods. Fortunately the majority of America is intelligent enough to not fall into the same trap as you.

Posted by: blowmeplz | February 26, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

I just hope they keep it up....they're losing independents and moderate Republicans with each "Hussein."

Hillary and the NYT may galvanize the far-right and conservative republicans, but attacking Obama's race or non-existent Muslim faith galvanizes the independents, moderate republicans and democrats.

Pretty soon, "Hussein" will lose all its negative connotations.

Posted by: wpost4112 | February 26, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

duck:

That was my point too.

Posted by: JakeD | February 26, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Hillary's middle name is Diane or Diana -- and I think "Mitt" is Romney's actual middle name -- I would have to look up McCain's middle name though. If I had to guess, I would say it's the same middle name as his father. I have no idea if Cunningham knows McCain's middle name. As for the "agenda" I have a hypothesis about Obama too -- does that qualify as an "agenda" though?

Posted by: JakeD | February 26, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

JakeD- what's John McCain's middle name? Or Hillary Clinton's (not Rodham)? Mitt Romney's?

Do you think the clever Bill Cunningham could answer those questions, without looking the info up? Or might he have another agenda altogether than merely in using a particular candidate's full name?

Posted by: bsimon | February 26, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

"A supporter of Ariz. Sen. John McCain repeatedly used Barack Obama's middle name, Hussein."

Why is using the name Hussein a disparaging remark?

Hussain ibn Ali is revered as the third imam by Shi'a Muslims. Obama should be proud of his middle name.

Posted by: duck | February 26, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Are we going to have an intelligent discussion about the direction of our nation or just succumb to the name-calling taunts of the playground bullies? That is our test. I hope this sort of stuff makes most people just as sick as it makes me.

By the way, JakeD, isn't it a little selfish to post more than one ignorant comment per thread? I would ask WaPo to consider limiting us to one or two comments. Any else agree?

Posted by: johnsonc2 | February 26, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

From Barack HUSSEIN Obama's book Audacity of Hope:

I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.

Posted by: JakeD | February 26, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

The problem is, Republican's know they have the candidate that is the underdog, at least as of today;

Obama vs. McCain- The Internet Indicators:

http://newsusa.myfeedportal.com/viewarticle.php?articleid=48

It was very good of McCain to speak out against this though, that is for sure.

Posted by: davidmwe | February 26, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Missed the last few remarks by this Deters character: So just because one doesn't serve in the military it automatically discredits their character? What military service were you a part of Mr Deters?

Posted by: thegribbler1 | February 26, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Obama's middle name is "Hussein" right?

Posted by: JakeD | February 26, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

I see the fear mongering hasn't left the right wing of the Republican Party just yet. They don't appear to have learned their lesson in 06 so I think after 2008 they'll finally realize it doesn't work anymore.

Glad to see McCain take responsibility for it.

Posted by: thegribbler1 | February 26, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Just when one thinks one is grasping the totality of the election process another camp throws a wrench in the process. This 'whispering in the ear' of distortion makes this a truly schizophrenic election....
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/02/26/schizophrenic-politics-a-penrose-triangle/

Posted by: glclark4750 | February 26, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Why does ANYONE have to "apologize" for using Obama's middle name -- we still have SOME free speech in this county, right -- luckily, McCain has ZERO control over independent 527s ; )

Posted by: JakeD | February 26, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

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