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N.M. Votes Still Being Tallied

By Garance Franke-Ruta
The Land of Enchantment could use a prince to awaken it from its slumbers. Or, perhaps, new voting technology. The only Super Tuesday state yet to name a winner said today that it might not be able to announce whether Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama won until Feb. 15 -- a full 10 days after the balloting.

Holding up the verdict are 17,276 provisional paper ballots, issued by the state Democratic Party at the polls to accommodate the higher-than-expected turnout.

In a year when every Democratic primary and caucus has challenged or broken state records, New Mexico Democratic Party chair Brian Colon had been predicting his state would draw 30,000 to 40,000 -- less than half the number of voters for 2004's Democratic caucus.

Instead, more than 153,000 came to cast ballots -- 50 percent more than in 2004.

New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton won 67,011 of those votes (43.43 percent) to Obama's 65,945 (42.74 percent), according to the state party -- leaving the race so tight that the provisional ballots could flip it one way or the other.

Provisional ballots were issued to those who either had requested an absentee ballot in the past, came to the wrong site, or were not otherwise on the registered voter lists at the election site they attended. These ballots accounted for more than 10 percent of ballots issued statewide, and are now being examined and tallied by an accounting firm in Albuquerque.

Twenty-six delegates are at stake in New Mexico, though by the time results are known, any bragging rights for the win may have long since dissipated -- Washington, Nebraska, and Louisiana are holding Democratic caucuses and a primary on Saturday, and on Tuesday, Virginia, Maryland, and the District of Columbia go to the polls.

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Like so many USA contemporaries, "wboling" & his/her fellow mindless HC haters & demonizers, continue to display that they are clearly "historically challenged":
For it wasn't that "Hillary failed" in '93, anymore than it was "Gore was a loser" in 2000! Instead, our SYSTEM failed; it failed US, our values & (once) worldwide esteemed standards; plus, nearly everything we've shed so much blood, sweat and tears to build & preserve, over the last couple centuries.

But while "jacksmith1" might rightly be called "overzealous" in his pitch(as surely now are most of the "celebrity star struck 'Newbies'" in this campaign), but certainly NOT "illogical".
Implying that his zeal is based on counter-intuitive or just plain wrong-headed thinking is just another example of our now consistent generationally displayed total lack of respect & propriety; i.e., IF I DISAGREE, I EITHER SHOUT YOU DOWN, CALL YOU NAMES/QUESTION YOUR BIRTHRIGHT OR INTEGRITY/SANITY.

But even more to the point: Whatever other or else he/others of this viewpoint may espouse that's debatable, in his bottom line lies the essential, undeniable (i.e., statistically underwritten) truth; to wit:
Our current health delivery system IS obviously "broken", & has become so by being terribly "ripped off" for so many decades - both by outright FRAUD, as well as WASTE!
And, as a direct consequence, our nation's health IS deteriorating - if doubtful, compare the hard data "stats" to any other developed nation in the world - in serious illness incidence rates per capita. All this can be DIRECTLY traced to results of our now almost TOTAL DEPENDENCE on artificial chemical pharmaceuticals(which is so, because THEY can be Patented/Copy protected, thereby Price/Distribution controlled/manipulated, whereas "Natural" substances can't!); combined with a totally polluted environment.
So, to ALL you very enthusiastic (& FINALLY off your butts!) "Partisans": Do yourselves, & all of us, a big favor; grow up, come down off your illusory "High Horses", & do your homework; before causing us all sink into another 4-8/Years of political status quo miasma, & allowing the dismal set of inherited problems from the last 8 years, to still fester & grow!

Posted by: seamusb32 | February 9, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

[sic - insurance executive hearts].

Posted by: wboling | February 9, 2008 5:37 AM | Report abuse

Let me get this straight: you owe Hillary a great deal because she failed so badly with health care reform that it almost destroyed her husband's presidency? Your other rationale for supporting her ... the fact that no Dem candidate supports HR676 ... is utterly devoid of reason ("Because nobody supports HR676, I'm for Hillary").

Hillary is farther than Obama from universal health care. Perhaps you don't realize that Hillary wants to make insurance a legal obligation, which is far from making health care a social benefit. Or perhaps you don't grasp the difference: the former benefits the insurance and health care companies, while the latter benefits the poor and sick.

Hillary's current position on health care is consistent with her support of the misleadingly entitled
"Medicare Prescription Drug Benefit." That law provides tax dollars for drug companies, some of which incidentally benefit Medicare patients, but then adds further features that benefit ONLY the drug companies: outlawing drug purchases from outside the US, and precluding the government from negotiating prices with the drug companies.

Your conclusion that Hillary is the best candidate to achieve universal health care is about as clever as a farmer's conclusion that the fox is the best animal to guard his hens "because he spends the most time looking out for them." I can't prove Hillary is bought and paid for, but she's beholden. Obama, by contrast, hasn't had to take much money from oil, drug and insurance companies because, incredibly, individuals are providing him with ample money.

Your email is a breathtaking combination of illogical "reasoning" combined with opinions that are unsupported by any evidence, or worse, are contrary to the evidence you acknowledge.

Universal health care will be a long time coming because too many profits will be lost, so too much money is lined up against it. Obama's plan may be slightly less comprehensive than Hillary's, but at leastit focuses on the real problem -- costs need to be lowered somehow. This will NOT warm the cockles of insurance executives.

Posted by: wboling | February 9, 2008 5:34 AM | Report abuse

Anyone who has ever lived in NM (I did for 8+ years and my spouse for more than 30+ years) knows that Nothern NM voting is a farce. Couple the "vote and vote often" scene that plays out in most Northern NM precinct elections and caucuses with an inept and completely Pro-Clinton DEM party, you get results that are exactly what you are seeing. The NV caucuses went much the same way, except here it is Southern NV that has issues. I'm glad both candidates have oversight to watch the recount in NM - a whole lot of votes for guess who are going to end up in the trash. Wish oversight had been conducted in Southern NV as the results would be different than those reported. Question is will the other caucus states coming up this week-end and beyond have identical complaints as those in NV and NM? Me thinks the DNC had better get busy cleaning up state and local DEM HQs - or better yet, next election let's have the DNC and DEM HQs remain neutral until a candidate is chosen. Now there is a thought!

Posted by: frillymail1017 | February 8, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Bottom Line:

Like all of you. I know that health care is the most critical, and important issue facing the American people. Now, and in the coming elections. And like the vast majority of the American people, I want HR 676 (Medicare For All) passed into law NOW! "Single payer, Tax Supported, Not For Profit, True Universal Health Care" free for all as a right. Like every other developed country in the world has. See:

"HR 676:
For church goers: less money to insur. companies and more to the church- lots more.
Srs on Medicare: save way over $100/wk. Because no more medigap, long term care & dental insur. needed. No more drug bills."

But if we the American people fail to bring enough pressure on our current politicians to get HR 676 passed into law before the elections. We will have to identify, and replace all the politicians standing in the way of passage of HR 676. And, I think the best first place to start is with the politicians that blocked the bipartisan SCHIP bills for the kids. Passed by congress four times.

But what about the President. It was Bush after all that blocked the bipartisan SCHIP bill passed by congress to assure more health coverage for Americas kids. So which of the presidential hopefuls do I think will be most supportive of implementing the demand of the majority of the American people to have HR 676 (Medicare For All) passed into law immediately!

We have some very fine presidential candidates who would make good presidents. But none of the top Presidential candidates directly support HR 676, the only true Universal Health Care plan. So I am supporting Hillary Clinton. She is the only top candidate that has ever actually fought for universal health care before.

I have enormous admiration, and respect for Hillary Clinton. She fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds back in 1993. To prevent this disastrous health care crisis that is now devastating the American people, and America. She fought so hard for the American people that she risk almost completely destroying her husbands presidency. I haven't forgotten her heroic effort. If any Presidential hopeful for universal health care deserves my support, it's her.

Also, if we the American people fail to bring enough pressure on our government to give us HR 676 which we all so desperately need NOW! Then we will need the most skilled politician we can get on our side to broker the best health care plan for the American people that we can get. Though it will be less than we need, and less than we deserve. The politician I think to best do this is Hillary Clinton. The Clinton's are probably the most skilled politicians in American history.

The insurance industry, and medical industry that has been ripping you off, and killing you has given Hillary Clinton so much money because they fear her. They have also given Barack Obama so much money because they fear Hillary Clinton. They think they can manipulate Barack Obama against the best interest of the American people better than they can manipulate Hillary Clinton. There is no race issue with Hillary Clinton. The Clinton's are the poster family for how African Americans want white people to be towards African Americans.

As always, African Americans are suffering, and dieing in this health care crisis at a much higher rate than any other group in America. The last time there was any significant drop in the African American death rate was when Bill Clinton was president.

My fellow Americans, you are dieing needlessly at an astounding rate. In higher numbers than any other people in the developed world. Rich, and poor a like. Insured, and uninsured. Young, and old. Men, women, children, and babies. And we the American people must stop it. And fix it NOW! Keep Fighting!!! Never! give up hope. There are millions of lives at stake. Bless you all... You are doing great!

Posted by: JackSmith1 | February 8, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

I just got this in my email and it seemed appropriate...

While walking down the street one day a US senator is tragically hit by a truck and dies.

His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance.

"Welcome to heaven," says St. Peter. "Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you see, so we're not sure what to do with you."

"No problem, just let me in," says the man.

"Well, I'd like to, but I have orders from higher up. What we'll do is have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity."

"Really, I've made up my mind I want to be in heaven," says the senator.

"I'm sorry, but we have our rules."

And with that, St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell. The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a green golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him.

Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him, shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at the expense of the people.

They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar and champagne.

Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly guy who has a good time dancing and telling jokes. They are having such a good time that before he realizes it, it is time to go.

Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator rises...

The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on heaven where St. Peter is waiting for him.

"Now it's time to visit heaven."

So, 24 hours pass with the senator joining a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns.

"Well, then, you've spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now choose your eternity."

The senator reflects for a minute, then he answers: "Well, I would never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in hell."

So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell.

Now the doors of the elevator open and he's in the middle of a barren land covered with waste and garbage.

He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more trash falls from above.

The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulder. "I don't understand," stammers the se nator. "Yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank champagne, and danced and had a great time. Now there's just a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened?"

The devil looks at him, smiles and says, "Yesterday we were campaigning. Today you voted."

Posted by: whatmeregister | February 8, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

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