The Trail: A Daily Diary of Campaign 2008

this is to a_bigone
You have some interesting things to say and you could be really effective if you would stick to the facts about the Bush family connections and not take sides between Obama and Clinton and get sidetracked - because then you lose the supporters from Obama. What you have to say is too interesting to be diverted. Can you please tell us more about where we can find out about what you said on former posts? Are there any books or urls?:

"Chilean president asassinated in DC with full CIA knowledge"
"While the Bush regime has so far managed to keep the drug smuggling aspects of the war from reaching the media, evidence is beginning to emerge. The evidence comes largely from a former FBI translator turned whistle-blower, Sibel Edmonds. Hired to translate intercepted messages soon after 9/11 this Turkish lady first blew the whistle on the FBI for dragging its feet. She has state emphatically that she has seen documents that prove the Bush administration was fully aware of the terrorist attack before 9/11. While ATTORNEY GENERAL JOHN ASHCROFT, has imposed a gag order on her, this courageous lady has only been able to speak in generalized terms"
"Haliburton the oil services company formerly headed by CHENEY has a long history of involvement in drug smuggling and gunrunning especially through its Brown and Root subsidiary. Brown and Root also has a long history of providing cover for CIA agents. In the late 1970s Brown and Root was implicated in drug smuggling and gunrunning from oil platforms in the Gulf of Mexico built by Brown and Root and using ships owned by Brown and Root. In the 1990s Brown and Root was implicated in smuggling heroin to Europe through Russia. The heroin originated in Laos.

"The Russian incident surfaced in 1995 after thieves stole sacks of heroin concealed as sugar from a rail container leased by Alfa Echo. Authorities were alerted to the problem after residents of Khabarovsk, a Siberian city became intoxicated from consuming the heroin. Alfa Echo is part of the Russian Alfa group of companies controlled by Mikhail Fridman and Pyotr Aven."

and can you elaborate more about the suspected coming US attempt on the life of Chavez? you can reach me at yahoo.de

I am soooo ready for President Obama!
He has more integrity in his little finger than Billary has in their whole camp. And MCCain's trophy wife needs to STFU. Didn't she have a PRESCRIPTION DRUG problem a ways back. Who knows what she said or will say under the influence. She needs to stay in her glass house and not try to take on Michelle Obama. It will take an act of Congress to get Michell off her arse if she trys it.

Reply to Mark H. Bryant,

First, thank you for serving our country. I always take time to thank veterans I meet.

I remember Jimmy Carter very well, and I'll always respect him for acknowledging human rights, and for not being corrupt, and not lying or trashing the Constitution, but he proved his ignorance of the world outside the nuclear submarines he sailed aboard when he backed the dictator in Iran, the Shah. Sen. Obama is the opposite. Please do take the time to read Barack's 10/2/02 speech, because he did far more than just oppose Bush's AUMF!

1) Obama had the judgement to realize we were being railroaded into supporting a pre-emptive war, against an unproven threat, when he stated that "Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors, the Iraqi economy is in shambles, the Iraqi military a fraction of its former strength, and in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history."

2) Obama knew enough, and was brave enough to speak out during a time of war hysteria, to realize that the war in Iraq would turn into a quagmire, when he said, "know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda."

I could go on, but I think you see my point, which is that, no disrespect to Carter, but Obama is way smarter in general than Carter was, in particular on foreign policy. I hope you won't base your vote on a metaphor that doesn't really work.

Earlier, someone said that he/she had waited a lifetime for someone like Obama. Well, early in my lifetime we had someone like Obama after a really bad Republican run in the WH (just like now) -- his name was Jimmy Carter. Unfortunately, Jimmy was long on rhetoric and short on performance and he got eaten up. I am sick of hearing/reading about how Hillary voted for Iraq and Obama did not: (1) Obama never had the opportunity because he was a state senator and (2) because he did not have the opportunity he did not get to hear the Bush "a vote against Iraq will be percieved as non-support for our troops" crap (I was one of those troops on the Kuwaiti border with Iraq and then got to spend two more tours in Iraq and one more in Djibouti). We really need to think about this one closely -- Hillary Clinton is the real deal and Obama a wordsmith. I am one of those people who will be left in a real pickle if Hillary is not the Democratic nominee - I cannot consciously vote for Obama - not after Carter.

honesty not greed
driven hard to lead
well resoned through thought
having never bee bought
lookingout for the poor
a smart man screw up this war anymore
Barak Obama's the man
to lead a guide us along
so this nation stay's strong
when we elect to
President of the United States

To counterbalance the annoying spambots repeatedly posting about the hit piece written by Todd Spivak:

The article claims that Obama " built his entire legislative record in Illinois in a single year." In fact the entire premise of there being a "king maker" requires that "fact" to be true.

Yet when you look at the actual record (http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2007/07/29/us/politics/20070730_OBAMA_GRAPHIC.html) that statement is shown to be a total fabrication. This thinly sourced article begins to make more sense when you realize that most of it is not even about Obama, it is actually about the AUTHOR of the article himself. This guy is trying like hell to inflate his credentials. I don't begrudge him that, but doing it by tearing someone else down based on bold faced dishonesty is a problem.

It defies credibility that someone was actually WAS a state house reporter remained totally unaware of at least the most well known of Obama's accomplishments prior to 2003. Obama is credited by both Democrats and Republicans in the Illinois state legislature with being largely responsible for state Campaign Finance Reform passed in 1998. Newspapers at the time said it was : "the Most Sweeping Good-Government Legislation in Decades." So, between this and the NYT time line of his vast legislative history over the entire time he was in office he clearly did NOT " build his entire legislative record in Illinois in a single year".

Either the "reporter" who wrote this

1) Isn't being truthful about his own background (otherwise he'd already know Obama's true background), or
2) isn't capable of learning easily obtainable pertinent facts about a story he's writing or
3) has a ax to grind and is using an opinion piece mislabeled as "news" to run a public smear campaign.

... but that's OK because Obama yelled at him. (I notice by the url that was actually supposed to originally be the name of the article - lol.)

For those Clinton folks who seem comfortable in blaming Barack Obama for his apparent popularity among younger voters, here's a flash:

Senator Clinton has had the same opportunity and as it is younger voters are not the majority of the people who are voting for Senator Obama. There are plenty of older voters who are voting for him and are doing so not because Senator Clinton voted in support of Bush's unnecessary war on Iraq.

I for one am voting for Senator Obama simply because he is asking all Americans to engage with him in the effort to bring real change to the dismal way we have conducted politics in Washington. And as it is, that dismal way also includes Senator Clinton's lack of judgement exercised when she failed to include anyone outside of her immediate close-door group when pursuing Universal Health Care while serving as First Lady.

As stated, what good is experience when it is not backed by good judgement.

I was 27 in '92, and so your reasoning as to why I support Obama doesn't work, PKMC83a. Obama hasn't blamed Hillary for anything domestic that W. has done. The Ditch that W. drove the US Military Bus into is Iraq. And Hillary gave him the keys!

pkmc83a,

Have you forgotten that people under 30 have
"all the answers" until one day they have an epiphany and realize that they didn't have a clue that they didn't have a clue?

For you Obama folks who seem comfortable in blaming the last 8 years on Hillary Clinton for a vote she made in 2002, when Obama was not in the Senate, here's a flash.

George W. Bush has been PResident for the past 8 years. He is the incumbent, not Clinton.

Bush ran the country by making anti-Clinton decisions. If Clinton would have gone one way, knee jerk Bush reaction was to go the other and he has done it with every issue that came on to his plate from 2001-2004 when he could control the agenda.

Here's another flash, Bush has not asked for Hillary's permission to start the Iraq War. I can almost bet you that if Hillary had told Bush not to go into Iraq, he would have gone in anyway.

And if we are in such a ditch, as Obama describes the American Bus it is because Bush put us into the ditch by turning his back, refexively away from the course and direction of Clintonian policies.

Logic dictates, if Clinton were indeed in control of the government these past 8 years, we wouldn't be in the ditch.

For Obama to whine on and make these speeches that Clinton is to blame for all of the devestation that litters the field of domestic and foreign policy in this country is an insult to the intelligence of every thinking American who was at least 30 years old in 1992.

Maybe that's why Obama appeals so well to the young, those 30 and younger. Hell, they were 10-16 years old back then in 1992. It makes inventing history a whole lot easier when your audience has no idea of what things were really like.

cschotta1, Thank you for a reasoned response. As it is, I agree that defending our country is a number 1 priority. And perhaps you will agree that that priority has been undermined by the waste of resources, capital, and lives unnecessarily spent in Iraq rather than in Afghanistan.

What good is experience if it is not fronted by good judgement? How is that Al Qaeda is stronger now than ever in Afghanistan? And how is it that Senator Obama is one of the very few people who stood up and voiced his judgement about Iraq and that every single thing he predicted would happen in 2002 has indeed happened by 2008.

Would you not and would we not be much safer if Osama bin Laden had received the full attention he deserved as opposed to giving it to Saddam which has directly resulted in Al-Qaeda establishing a presence in Iraq?

And will you not and will we not all feel and actually be much safer once he is found and dealt with as he already should have been?

Has anyone noticed that all the Obama supporters do is sling insults?

Recent Political History has proven unequivocally that a Liberal can not win in the Electoral College. The assumption that Obama will win the General election is just that an assumption.

The light is dimming----- if BO does not take HC out on Tuesday he's toast.
www.houstonpress.com/2008-02-28/news/barack-obama-sceamed-at-me/full

Has anyone noticed that all the Hillary supporters do is whine?

Hillary supporters, most of your assumptions about how Obama will fail in office are just that: assumptions. You make the argument that he is inexperienced and will therefore have no idea what to do in the face of the nation's problems. But the fact is that none of the candidates have ever tried to run an entire country from the executive position before, so the question there applies to Obama, HRC, and McCain. You bring up problems like Rezko or Farrakhan and attempt to use them to support your notion that they disqualify Obama (even though these arguments may lack any factual support). But you forget to mention how Bill Clinton had a serious episode displaying a lack of moral character and still end up labeling him one of the greatest presidents our nation has ever elected. You glorify Hillary's experience as First Lady, as though Bill's successes contribute to her merit. And even though I'm sure she must have had some influence over the decision making process, an entire executive bureaucracy and staff of advisers also informed those decisions (plus if Bill really liked Hillary that much and valued what she thought he probably wouldn't have cheated on her).

Basically all of your arguments are garbage. Certainly Obama has his issues, as do most candidates who run for president. But if you're really persuaded that Hillary isn't a question mark to as great an extent as Obama is, then I seriously question both your powers of reason and knowledge of political history.

In last week's Democratic debate in Cleveland sponsored by MSNBC, Tim Russert questioned Hillary about the name of the President of Russia and its election situation, Hillary has answered the questions correctly, but I don't recall Mr. Russert has raised similar difficult question to Obama (such as who is the President of Philipine or Korea). It appears that MSNBC tried to avoid Obama being 'knock-down' on foreign affair knowledge contest, which happens to be Obama weak point.

flabingo,

Assuming Obama gets the nomination, he reaches out to Zinni and Hagel for his
running mate. Assuming that one of these
very astute gentleman are galactically stupid enough to commit Political Hare Kare with their careers, how is this going to change the Constitution or the Parliamentary rules of the House and Senate so that "Congress is not subject to a filabuster, and things change in Washington" ?

Rob,

Sorry if I misread your post but how is simply winning Texas and Ohio going to unite the party behind Barrack? Ted Kennedy
took his fight to the Convention in 1980 and we got eight years of "tax cut and spend"
Ronald Reagan who we all know whooped the Soviets with one arm tied behind his back.

People we need a person that can run against the Republican party. If this country believes Obama can beat McCain think again. The Democratic party had better screw their heads on. This constant bashing of Bill Clinton is Bull. He is doing more work for this country as a retired President then the current President. Let's get back to what is needed for this country. We have serious concerns that need to be addressed. We need a person that has knowledge to make changes where needed. That is why Hillary Clinton is change and she has been working all of her life making changes. The democrats had better wakeup and quick wanting to vote for someone that makes them feal good all over. The King(Elvis) already holds the title.

Obama picks Zinni or Hagel as V.P. Congress is not subject to a filabuster, and things change in Washington, or business as usual. Pick a side!

Speaking of race, I can't believe Bill Clinton's getting a pass this week for what he said. It was something close to, "once people get elected president, they go into the White House and start believing that THEY ARE SOMEBODY." The emphasis on those words was included in Clinton's comments. Am I the only one who saw that as an obvious attempt to associate Obama with Jesse Jackson yet again? Please, don't tell me our "first black president" isn't playing the race card.

Hillary has staked her campaign on Texas and Ohio. The voters in Texas and Ohio have a historic opportunity on Tuesday. By giving a resounding victory to Barack, they can end the politics of division and distortion within the Democratic Party!

Texas and Ohio have the opportunity to go down in history as the two states that closed the book on destructive politics within the Democratic Party! And from there, we can get on with the task of changing the entire country!

Rob

After selling the country to the Chinese, Clintons are not selling it to foreign dictators. That's how Hillary is able to fund her campaign and that's why she refuses to release her tax return.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/us/politics/31donor.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

Please open the link below to sign the petition against the distasteful and unfavorable treatment that CNN has displayed toward the democratic nominee Senator Hilary Clinton.

It is highly unfair and discriminatory to present a candidate in the light in which she has been consistently shown, and it is time for CNN to re-examine their approach in the way in which they choose to report the forthcoming primaries both on the air and on their website.

To access the petition and sign, use the link below.

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/cnn-stop-bias-against-senator-hillary-clinton/sign.html#se

Are the democrats stupid?
Hillary started out with a great deal of money and way ahead in the polls. Now Obama is ahead. Does it occur to you ,democrats, that there may be a good reason?

pkmc83a,

Kudos for the post. Well done.
However, If Hillary wins (and she could)
she still needs Barack and vice versa.
Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton is what it
will take to beat John McCain. John McCain is not Barry Goldwater and he can unite his party and collect votes from disaffected Democrats. Assuming they count all the votes this time and not just have a 5-4 vote in the Supreme Court ( and I thought the GOP was a champion of Sates Rights )

Sannons1
I so wish that you were right and that Obama should be given this turn, because it is the only turn he is likely to have.

But let me just throw in some additional facts. I am from a Middle Eastern country originally. I follow the Middle Eastern press and have many friends in that region.

Their press is following this election closer than our press here in the US covers it, and they cover it better from an interest analysis point of view. The American press concentrates on the "horse race" aspect of the contest because this keeps viewer interest and it is all about ratings, Right??

In the Middle East, the positions of each candidate is weighed and vetted and the parties are making their plans, setting their markers based on which candidate they think will win and what his or her likely attitude will be toward their countries.

Will the new President be put to the test?? Yes, count on it. They will give a good strong push to see if there is any push back and if there is none, then stronger pushes will be administered.

I will tell you that many of the countries are pulling for Obama to win. They like his world view, which is essentially the same and mirrors the third world view of America as a bully country that needs to be more humble and to stop engaging in interference with their part of the world.

They fear our culture as much if not more than they fear our Army and wish that both would just go away.

Obama may accomodate them and just have the US go away.

But the US is a Superpower. We have global interests, global commitments and global friends. There are consequences which if not given proper weight could result in very great difficulties.

Obama is liked because he is rather green and inexperienced and so much can be done to him. However, he is predictable. He will, based upon his world view, withdraw from Iraq ASAP regardless of the situation on the ground.

McCain is more seasoned, but is as ideologically committed to the present course as is Bush.

Clinton is the fox. They do not know what she will do exactly because she has hewed to the center from which there is maximum flexibility of response. Not being able to predict her actions once in office, those who intend us harm, as well as our friends in the region from Jordan to Israel, would have to proceed cautiously.

It is not a pretty world out there. While we will not exposed to another 9/11, mainly because we will not have another president asleep at the switch, still we have interests which must be protected.

Did you know that by June, gas at the pump will be at $4.00/gallon? If we precipitously pull out of Iraq and a sectarian Shiite-Sunni War develops, or the Turks cross the Northern Border into the Kurdish region and there is no deterrent American force present, do you have any idea what that does to the price of oil?? How it further devalues the US Dollar in the world? What that does to American financial markets.

All of these issues are tied to events in the Middle East. You cannot radically change course in any sector without affecting the others. Bush has put the country in this spot and getting out will not be as easy as the candidates want to make it appear.

Change and Hope are nice, but what we need now is a cool hand, and some experience. So why not have Obama wait a bit and let the adults take care of this situation.

Let us end this situation out there with the Clinton Administration, then we can all go out to the playground and play the Hope and Change Game.

To think that politician are pure and perfect-- is simply stupid assumption. Voters know better then that, what voters are trying in this election to pick the one, that will not do the evil!

If the two candidates are sincere in their rhetoric about "unity" the common sense thing to do would be to at least, at least offer the other candidate to be their running mate. As objectionable as this might seem to the supporter's of both candidate's this is what is truly in "the best interests of the Democratic Party" not arm twisting another candidate to bow out. It has happened many times before like in 1960 with JFK and LBJ. If you find this more fodder for your "woofing" get used to the term President McCain. At least he has landed a jet on an Aircraft Carrier and not just played a guy who did it on tv.

Hillary Clinton and John McCain have been broadcasting their foreign policy experience for some time now. Can you blame them? We certainly do live on a very volatile planet, where every action, can at times have an unequal and devastating reaction. Case in point the war in Iraq. It begins with a cowardly attack, followed by a justified reprisal into Afghanistan, which then transpires into a blunder in Iraq.

Here we have two candidates, who are pro- blunder, advertising their credentials to be the leader of the nation. Baloney. Look, Obama doesn't have the experience either, but I can get behind the argument of judgment. His campaign is one "Powered by Judgment". Why does Obama, not circumcise this debate on his lack of experience any better than he does. Why doesn't he give the voters an impromptu history lesson. Why aren't his advisers reminding him to invoke the names of Don Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney. Afterall, weren't these warhawks brought in by Bush for the sole purpose of their foreign policy experience. I can't remember the last public appearance Rumsfeld made. The guys like a leper. Shunned by the multitudes. Not to mention Dick Cheney and his roof toppling approval rating. How will voters consider experience then. Sure its important but so is reason, logic, sensibility, etc.. I think all these candidates should just drop it. Change the subject. Barack should buy another ad, critical of these seasoned public servants and their experience, while hammering home the point that it was because of their experience that we are now knee-deep in regret as a nation. Thats my opinion though. Im not playing the cards, but if I were Obama id be thrilled with my hand. Do you agree.

Barack throws away script - and picks up Oprah's.

Oprah's Big Give - Political Style.
Barack Obama.
check out this video.
youtube.com/watch?v=W5Kboa7kSjU

sorry if you you've seen this before, but:

I know no one will read this whose mind I can change, but my husband says GO! DO it, do whatever you can. My husband is from Scotland. He has a science Ph.D. Men and women both think that he is a really smart AND a cool guy (who adores smart women - he thinks smart women should rule the world). He has always treated me as an equal, even though I only have a B.A. His colleagues, men and women, treat me as if my opinion and knowledge is equally as great as theirs'.

As much as he believes in the high intelligence and capabilities of women, he thinks that if the Democrats don't vote for Obama NOW, we will never change the world and we will be stuck with the Republican craziness FOREVER!!!! (and I full heartedly agree).

I'm a knee jerk, liberal, woman over 50, for Obama (even though I loved the Clintons!) because I think we really, really need what Obama stands for NOW! I really do want a woman president, but we need Obama now! at this point in time. PLEEEZZZE!!!!!

This is from my heart!!!! Let's give the Clintons their due after we have had a break from Bush/Clinton/Bush/????? Really,! Bill, convince Hillary that it's going to be okay! she will have her historic moment a little bit later.

I might sound crazy, but I know I'm pretty sure I'm, not (everyone tells me that I'm smarter than I think I am (even my Republican friends) so I'm giving this a shot. PLEAZE!!!, VOTE FOR OBAMA, give 'politics' a CHANCE AT CHANGE.

pkmc83a,

Kudos for the post. I see your point.
Brilliant strategy on Barack's part.
However, it is extremely difficult to lie through your teeth in a polygraph examination. I would not recommend it :)

The Larry Sinclair thing is BOGUS. A fraud. The guy took the lie detector test and is lying through his teeth.

It is a diversionary tactic. More effort to immunize Obama by setting up the straw man Sinclair only to knock him down and then when the true fraudulent nature of the Obama campaign surfaces, it is written off as another Sinclair moment.

Anyone, Clinton or McClain, who tries to use this will have taken the Obama bait and have the hook caught in their collectie throats.

Its all Blue Smoke people. Take a pass.
As is the Moslem stuff. All Blue Smoke, this is not where Obama is vulnerable. All of this is put up to hide the really difficult stuff that he needs desperately to keep hidden.

Isn't Obama wonderful!! He's throwing away the script!

Hey kantha,

Do the whole country a favor and ask Senator Obama come clean about Larry Sinclair. Lets examine the facts and not just weep the under the rug like some two-bit Dictatorship. If the allegation is not true the American people have he right to know now. If the allegation is true the American people have the right to know also. I read that somewhere
(The Bill of Rights I think). The GOP is already planning to make Larry Sinclair Barack's running mate. Even if he does get the nomination he can not and will not win a General Election with a fractured party.
He may carry less states than John Kerry.
Q: When was the last time liberal won a General Election A: Never. Like I said before: The lack of civility in Public Discourse among you Obama supporters makes Karl Rove and Newt Gingrich look Like Phil Donahue and Regis Philbin.

Its not enough apparently that Obama mimics Hillary's responses during the debates, now he is starting to mimic her campaign by going to smaller forums where there is interaction with the voters beyond the giving of the "Talk", "throwing away the script".

Talk about opportunism?? This guy is the master of it. He finds out what works for others and just copies them, wholesale and trys to claim credit for himself.

He is sort of shameless about it too, even brags.

If he is elected, what will he do without Hillary there to give him the answers??

And now his people are trying to elbow Clinton out of the race just now when the competition is about to get sharp. Well, when you look at his electoral record, its about par for the course. He won his Illinois senate seat not at the ballot box but in court by having all the other candidates declared inelegible.

His US Senate seat came via a withdrawal by his Republican opponent who was replaced a the last minute by a Maryland transplant, Alan Keyes, who didn't have a chance.

Now that he is in this race with Hillary, I suppose he feels like the best chance to beat her is to run her off rather than win on the merits. Problem is that there is no running off in Clinton she is a fighter and will fight.

When neither candidate can win the nomination through the primary process, why should Clinton give it up before the primary season is even over?? What would be said if Clinton were to try this tactic on Obama should the shoe be on the other foot?? It would be called bullying, pressing her inevitability and so forth, but Obama does it and Saint Obama can do no wrong.

She has a good case to be made at the Convention should she have won head to head primary fights in key Democratic States against Obama. These are historic Democratic states and must states for the fall.

In Obama's famous String of Eleven include Alaska, North Dakota, Kansas, American's Abroad, Idaho, Colorado, Alabama, South Carolina, Georgia etc. Almost all of these are Red States in a general election.

Many were won in caucases, which are legitimate wins, but remember, in many, if not all caucus Obama wins, Clinton did not put up any organized effort. It was not in her primary strategy to go after the small delegate states. Obama went to this because he knew he would lose in the big states.

One of the Obama arguments against seating a Florida delegation that reflects the vote there is that he did not compete in Florida. By that logic, none of the "Red State" Obama caucus wins should be counted because Clinton did not compete in those either.

Obama only got legitmate with the Virginia, Maryland and Wisconsin wins, which were very significant wins. Those are at the heart of his argument for "inevitability", particularly Virginia.

So he has a case to make. If Hillary does well on Tuesday, she has a case to make to. So why should she be the sacrificial lamb at the altar of Obama??

Is America ready to elect its first woman or to elect its first Black? Is racism or sexism the more rampant social ill in America. This is the question. Judging by the MSM which is supposedly liberal, there is a knee jerk reaction to go gaga over the African American to to diss the woman.

Looking at the Democratic demographic, sure, African Americans are as loyal an element of the Democratic coalition as ever there has been. They are with the Democrats come thick or thin. Elections, though are won with significant numbers of women voters coming into the Democratic column.

As Mr. Axelrod, and his string of Democratic former Presidents like John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Chris Dodd, and Bill Bradley continue to attack Clinton they are the ones who could cost the Party the White House in the Fall by turning off not just Democratic women voters, but all women voters.

As Democrats respect runs in all directions. Respect for our African-American voters and respect for women voters. Both of these candidates have significant and loyal constituencies. Strong arm tactics such as are used in Cook County Illinois are not so attractive nationwide.

http://www.houstonpress.com/2008-02-28/
news/barack-obama-screamed-at-me/full

Barack Obama and Me

It was the year 2000 and I was a young hungry reporter in Chicago covering a young hungry state legislator
By Todd Spivak
Published: February 28, 2008
Houston Press

Posted by: David2007 | March 2, 2008 03:48 PM
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I am looking forward to reading your reference. http://www.houstonpress.com/
2008-02-28/news/barack-obama-
screamed-at-me/full

gw.

Posted by: Iowatreasures | March 2, 2008 03:53 PM

Wow this is a real story about Obama. How pathetic the WP and NY times coverage has been. I did not know 1/4 of the stuff in the story.

I went to school at the U of C in Hyde Park.

This is Iraq all over again. Maybe the post can run like a small news paper and just buy stories from Austin and Chicago news papers.

Between his looney wife and an endorsement from Screwy Louie Farrakhan, Obama is turning out to be a three alarm nut. Once again, the far left Democratic Party is commiting suicide. And after 8 years of Bush they should have had this one in the bag - they just can't learn to give us a reasonable candidate.

Dear csfoster2000-do you really think the white liberal establishment are going to give up their power if he's elected. He's saying what many politicians have said before. Sorry, defending this country is top priority, and his lack there-of is more than reason enough NOT to vote for him or any other liberal that attacks the military more than the terrorists.

Hillary donates most or all of her "It Takes A Village" book to the Childrens Fund.

That's who she is.

The Rezko real estate criminal trial begins tomorrow. Mr. Obama will need to give answers instead of excuses. Let's see how he tries to avoid it. No wonder the White Haired Trolls are worried. They want to wrap this up before the interview is over!! NO WAY.

Sorry srkrause47, intelligent and liberal don't dove tail. Bush has done a damn good job kicking liberal tail for his 2 terms, maybe that Yale degree is legit. Obama will be the biggest "flash-in-the-pan" the world has ever seen. Once he gets his skinny white butt kicked, he will just away. His chance of fooling the "intelligent" voters will have failed, leaving his bruised ego no where to go....except to cry on Oprah! LIBERALISM....the gutless choice!

cschotta1, Senator Obama's call for the people of America to engage in a collaborative effort to "change" the ineffective existing way we do business in Washington is not a matter of liberalism but rather the practice of democracy at its finest.

You can label it what you want, but the truth is that real change is needed in place of maintaining the same old same old status quo which has worked for the select few but does so at the direct expense and detriment of the great many.

Get real guys! Only the left would think that a black man would get elected in America. I have talked to so many colleagues and my neighbours..and most of them say they would never vote for a black candidate. This is still a very much racist nation.

re: Posted by: max | March 2, 2008 03:42 PM

ditto. well sed. max gets it. i'lltake my chances with Senator Obama. Just having an intelligent person in the White House would be SO refreshing.

Here is a great video of Mr. Obama's resume:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuB_W8o_UsU

SENATOR CLINTON WROTE A BOOK. SHE EARNED LEGITIMATE MONEY SO SHE CAN BUY THINGS SHE CAN AFFORD. SHE CAN LOAN MONEY TO HER CAMPAIGN BECAUSE SHE CAN AFFORD. NOW SENATOR OBAMA IS JEALOUS because HE COULD NOT AFFORD THE MANSION AND HAD TO ENGAGE IN TRANSACTIONS WITH Rezko, the King of corruptin in Chicago. Senator Hillary Clinton's loan to her campaign is not such a big deal to the future of the country because we know how she earned her money. IN THE CONTRARY, SENATOR OBAMA'S DEALINGS WITH REZKO (AND WHO KNOWS WHAT OTHER DEALS ARE OUT THERE, WE JUST DO NOT KNOW YET), is a reflection of the kind of judgement we do not want on the phone at 3:00 AM when the RED PHONE RINGS IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

I guess, when the phone rings, Senator Obama would have to call Rezko? Is this how he will handle the affairs of the country?

VOTE FOR HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT!

Whose script did he throw away?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuB_W8o_UsU

This guy is like a wind up doll. Wind him up set the selection you want and watch him go to town.

Hey rjclay,

Do us all a favor and convince Hillary to make her tax records public. Ever think she is not doing so before the primaries are over for a reason? Perhaps she does not want us to knw who is bankrolling Billary!

info23 - That's right. The Clinton's helped Obama get elected. He's a thankless back stabbing politician.

Also of extreme interest - per CNN

Donations to super delegates over the past three years:

Obama $700,000

Hillary $200,000

Who's a different kind of candidate? NOT Mr.Obama.

Much more to know about this guy. And no legistlative accomplishments in Illinois - so he wouldn't have to answer for anything. Either that or he was doing nothing like he has for FOURTEEN MONTHS with his commitee appointment regarding NATO and Afghanistan. He sure used it to brag and brag about himself. Now we know

FOURTEEN MONTHS AFTER HIS COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENT

NOT ONE MEETING OR HEARING

THE POEPLE OF AFGHANISTAN ARE STILL WAITING FOR "CHANGE"

MR. OBAMA'S EXCUSE: HE WAS "TOO BUSY" WITH HIS CAMPAIGN

THAT'S "TOO BUSY" TAKING CARE OF HIMSELF

What are we paying him for? To just have nice little assignments he can brag about being on for over a year doing nothing but bragging about them?

As The Donald would say if this were his interview.

"MR. OBAMA - YOU'RE FIRED"!!

In 1975, a 27-year-old Hillary Rodham, acting as a court-appointed attorney, attacked the credibility of a 12-year-old girl in mounting an aggressive defense for an indigent client accused of rape in Arkansas - using her child development background to help the defendant.

...eventually secured a lenient plea deal for Taylor after a New York-based forensics expert she hired "cast doubt on the evidentiary value of semen and blood samples collected by the sheriff's office."

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/ny-usark245589997feb24,0,2670956.story

Though I support Obama, I do not hate HC. But I'm afraid any ill will folks have toward her has been brought on by her or BC's behavior, which some see as manipulative, dishonest, and self-serving. Obama '08!

Once nominated, all Obama will have to do is run commercials with that picture of Ahmedinejad getting the red carpet treatment by Iraqi government to get a landslide.

HILLARY cannot do that, it's as simple as that and the rest is NOISE.

Attention All Gays and Lesbians and Pro-Choicers...
If you think Obama is any different from all the "traditional" politicians just wait till there are 8 years of his take on "Christianity"...that will be his and Michelle's excuse to leave anyone out the Yes, We Can ampaign that they don't agree with.
I don't care if the President is Muslim or Christian...but I wish they would shove their ideology on other people's rights.

SENATOR OBAMA'S JUDGEMENT: REMEMBER THE MANSION? That was not good judgement. Senator Obama said that he should have seen some of those red flags. Well, we need answers. With so little records, we can not only rely on ONE CHOICE, it could have been just a lucky pick!!! Most of the nation were behind President Bush going into Iraq. I was also against. That does not make me qualified to be President.

I want to see how Senator Obama exercised judgement in various circumstances, especially where he had something to gain personally. I want more case studies.

GOOD JUDGEMENT 101: IF YOU DESIRE A MANSION AND YOU DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY, THERE ARE TWO OPTIONS: (A) BUY A SMALLER HOUSE YOU CAN AFFORD; (B) WAIT AND SAVE MORE MONEY AND BUY WHEN YOU CAN AFFORD. IF YOU RUN TO REZKO, A FRIEND UNDER FEDERAL INVESTIGATION (Senator Obama is a lawyer and he should have known) and engage in SHADDY DEALS! The your judgement is much worse than Senator Clinton's Iraq Vote!

Now when asked, if you try to hide the truth and fail to disclose the whole truth, then your ethics are questionable.

NOW WE NEED TO LEARN MORE. DEMOCRATS: DO NOT THROW RED MEAT TO THE GOP DOGS.

We do not know much about Senator Obama. The little we are now learning about him is very, very troublesome. He is hoping that he can lock the nommination before the truth comes out. This sounds like something from the GEORGE BUSH - DICK CHENNEY Playbook. Yet Senator OBAMA claims he is going to change Washington!!!

VOTE FOR HILLARY! Besides, many of the independents and republicans who are voting for Senator Obama in the primaries are planning to vote for Senator John McCain in the general elections. DO NOT BE MISLED BY THIS CROWDS! DO NOT FALL IN THE GOP TRAP!

AGAIN, GOOOOO HILLARY GOOOOOO HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT!!!!

OMG this is what passes for discourse among Post readers? Truly abominable sentiments from supporters of both Clinton and Obama -- let's just all remember that we have no idea who is really posting this trash; wouldn't surprise me if there wasn't some "opposition disinformation" going on here. Both Democrats are good candidates; 38 contests into the race Sen. Obama has a lead in delegates, votes, states and money (and catching up w/ super delegates) and frankly Sen. Clinton cannot win this w/out a seachange of momentum from the Super Delegates. I frankly fervently hope that both TX and OH support Sen. Obama so that we stop this intra-family brawl as no matter who our nominee is we are going to need every vote in the fall. Chill, folks, as an Obama supporter I truly believe we only hurt ourselves by throwing mud. Hang on ... Yes We Can!

A kudo for this posting:

Posted by: abiyi2000 | March 2, 2008 08:07 PM

Information rather than blowhard

Richard,

Is "ignorant uneducated twit" the best you can do for a pejorative term? Do you have some clairvoyants capacity that enables you to determine a persons level of education? or is it because you just received a certificate from ITT Tech and you feel you have the right to disparage other people? If you and your fellow Obama supporters foment so much ill will towards people who support another candidate what do think is going to happen in the General Election? Do you really think "Mr. Unity" is going to wave a magic wand and make us forgive all you Hillary hate mongers? The lack of civility in Public Discourse among you Obama supporters makes Karl Rove and Newt Gingrich look Like Phil Donahue and Regis Philbin.

No csfoster2000-I meant what I said. Liberals do NOT get elected president. Conversatives rule this great country, not a bunch of whining little brats who have no idea what Mr. Obama stands for, besides CHANGE. Change for what, more government, more liberal failed welfare programs? LIBERALIS.....the choice of the truly ignorant, the weak and the ugly!

Who will have the courage to tell Hillary that the race is over!

It may be worthwhile to consider the following:

a) If and when the red phone moment happens neither Obama nor Clinton will act on his or her own impulse/experience alone when he or she picks up the phone. We (the U.S.) are endowed w/ some of the best resources/minds in the world. While still on the phone or immediately after hanging it up, I imagine the President would quickly summon a meeting of the top nat'l security advisers and, if the situation warrants it, request identified experts from NASA, PrincetonU, YaleU, etc., to contribute in the ensuing urgent brainstorming session. Since these people (advisers/experts) are not necessarily yes-men and yes-women, they would generate at least two alternatives for the President w/ supporting pros 'n cons. The President would then choose on option for rapid implementation and take full responsibility for the success or failure as if it were his or her own initiative in the first place. The idea is to have ability to work with all these resources and come to a quick decision. The president must act quickly. As per President T. Roosevelt, "In the moment of decision, the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing". Even then, the President should be willing to make adjustments if new data are coming in showing serious problems with the initial implementation. (Yes, I know, some people would like to label such a President who is willing to make appropriate adjustments a flip-flopper; but that's another debate entirely.)

b)The narrative above would lead one to infer that the level of experience a President has is not a determining factor to making the right decision. Saving any preconcieved bias, it seems that the important factors that should be given more merit are 1) the level of expertise of each adviser/expert in their defined area, 2) is the President able to attract and surround himself or herself w/ such top notch advisers or a they all loyalists? 3) are they independent and able to speak frankly to the President, 4) do these advisers/experts have their own ulterior motives or personal gains in the advise they render to the President, and 5) is the President a woman or man of good will, level headed, and able to discern a sound advise option from the alternatives presented, or is he/she arrogant and stubborn, willing to squander U.S. might and resources because he/she thinks he/she can?

c)Additionally, and most important, a President should be popular, able to unite (or at least be seen as being capable of uniting) people across partisan lines. This is important for leverage, to be able to push through beneficial programs for the populace, programs that might be otherwise opposed by others to score political points at the expense of the very future of the people they all claim to represent.

A tangible support from the other party would always be needed to make the President's tenure productive and easy. Remember how productive and relatively easy it was for President Ronald Reagan as his administration implemented the trickle-down economics? and President Bill Clinton as his administration generated prosperity and stability for the nation, remember how productive and relatively easy it was for him, at least until the slightly unfortunate incident with a white-house intern?

The press has done an awful job of covering this campaign. Obama held the same type of forum in Alexandria before the VA primaries. As much as she complains about it, Billary would kill for Obama's audiences. I hope the people of OH an TX put this to bed on Tues. by doing away with all hopes of Billary's 3rd term.

"we had a couple of big rallies...and I made a couple of big speeches" he says. Ha! A couple? He built his campaign on the "pass the Kool-aid approach!" Sen. Clinton mocked him on this and it resonated, an now he's playing down how many rallies he had and playing up smaller gathering. This guy has not political will except to win. His only real message is, "vote for me."

IowaTreasurer I hope this is all over on Tuesday because you are a miserable person to attack Barrack because he is African American. It is one thing that you do not agree with him politically but to attack him personally shows how stupid and ignorant you really are. You are on every blog of the Washington Post Get a LIFE!!!!

Posted by: djwinfield | March 2, 2008 04:06 PM
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Point one: You say I an "on every blog of the Washington Post Get a LIFE !!!!"

I say, if you must also on every blog of the washington Post, or you wouldn't know I was.

Point two: I would like you to show me where I attacked Obama for being an African American, and where I attacked him personally.

Point three: Since you have attacked me, I shall now bring one of my standard board speeches forward in a couple of minutes. It is long, so hang in there, I will get it to you. gw.

From the Washington Post:

THERE'S THE BEEF
"During the course of our endless presidential campaigns, lots of silly things are said by the candidates and the press. But few are more ridiculous than the idea that Barack Obama is just an empty suit."

"We're talking here about a former president of the Harvard Law Review. Have you ever met the people who get into Harvard Law School? You might not choose them as friends or lovers or godparents to your children, but -- trust me on this -- there aren't many lightweights there. And Obama was chosen by all the other overachievers as top dog. Compared with the current leader of the free world, this guy is Albert Einstein."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/21/AR2008022102826.html

Wow, Bill Clinton endorsed Obama in 2004:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-fkoctaB18

cschotta1, perhaps you meant to say that Senator McCain will be elected by the vested senior citizens of this country who seem to mostly surround him at his press conferences or rallies and which are not exactly representative of America at-large. Or perhaps you believe Senator McCain will be elected by those few (excluding Senator McCain himself) who waste no time letting their inherent biases show as you have shown with the unnecessary denigration of Senator Obama's name and who thereby lack credibility from the gate.

Try again.

Now, even Bill Clinton's Law of Politics would have him vote for Obama over Hillary.

Here's the video that proves it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGW38Zy4bJo

"Ought"

OK, people! OK! The correct spelling is "magnetism!" Give it a rest! Please!

The 3 AM ad that Clinton supporters are so proud of isn't even her campaign's idea. They 'xeroxed' it from McCain. What a bunch of hippocrites.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/02/was-clintons-3am-ad-xe_n_89449.html

As an observer of American Politics following over the years, both Hillary and Obama are possibly those finest Democratic hopeful candidates the country has produced so far. It is also true that Hillary has already received that recognition for her leadership, her experience, ethics, capacity and intelligence. Anything further than this will be real damage to the credential for democrats in America and a very unpopular, less intelligent, questionable ethical from Rebubican is sneaking into the serious political game to force American people live under the dark shadow for next four years.

Hope all those good Ameracanr realise the urgency, discard all those scare mongering slogan, ego and unite an elect an young, charistmatic, intelligent, courogeous and logical who is at least worth trusting leader for the sake of pride, honesty and regain the prestidge of America. If Hillary cares for her party it is time to be humble give the chance who deserve to be president of US. I hope she does not create the situation of surrendering this term to Mcain.
When American is looking for new hope, over all overhall of White house image and strategy just by reparing few old rotten furniture will not solve the problem. It will drag into situation of constant repair of very old car which is not reliabe and fail anywhere in the journey. Have to have new car or atleast new engine is essentil to make that jounrney.

Anne Roberts

Copying Hillary by repeating leftish canards such as "green jobs" and "special interests" isn't a good idea. Consider how Hillary's fared. Given his messianic megnetism, Obama out to abandon this propaganda and concentrate on real-world solutions. Yes, he can do it and the voters will accept it. By contrast, Hillary and Magoo are and will be mired in the past repeating the same nonsense.

rjclay,

I only thought you were tiresome but I was wrong. You are just a plain and ignorant uneducated twit!

What a blithering idiot you are. Are you actually paid to post crap on these sites?

Hillary Clinton, tonight on 60 minutes, when asked about rumors circulating about Obama that he is secretly a Muslim and if she tought Barack was a Muslim, she responded, "No, of course not. I take him at his word."

Odd response. Why didn't she just say that's just an ugly rumor and smear that needs to be stopped?

I, FOR ONE, HAVE GROWN QUITE TIRED AND WEARY OF CONSTANT AND UNRELENTING PRESS ANALYSES OF OBAMA V. BILLARY.
DOES ANYONE ELSE SHARE THAT SENTIMENT?

Senator Obama the American people have a
right to know about your involvement with LARRY SINCLAIR. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTz7nojEC80
This brave American successfully completed a
a polygraph interview administered by the Chairman of the American Polygraph Institute
regarding his involvement with Senator Obama.
Just like Bush's National Guard Service the
American people have right to know about Senator's Obama's morality. LARRY SINCLAIR.

Bill Clinton rebukes Hillary for 3 a.m. jibe!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RGW38Zy4bJo

Osama throws away the script, that's because he was caught copying the speeches of others. But honestly, besides a nice smile, he has nothing else to offer this great country, nor does Hillary. The next president (McCain) will be elected by the adults of this country, the ones that work for a living and believe in conservative values. In the upcoming months, the rest of the country and the world will realize how clueless Osama is on world affairs, and will grow tired of his cute slogans, his wife's big mouth and Oprah's even bigger butt. Sorry liberals, but this is the real world, not Hollywood!

Dear fake1,

So you have to stoop to name calling eh?
I'll bet you have never had an original
thought in you life, drive a 300 series BMW and wear FUBU clothes. Only a uninformed, ignorant, commie pink-o sissie like you would vote for a candidate who is endorsed by Louis Farrakhan, Ted Kennedy and has a more liberal voting record than Ted Kennedy's just because he is half black (his only qualification).

Hillary-7 years in public office (even they're well intentioned, women's conferences across the world do not count as political or foreign policy experience).

Obama-11 years in public office.

Oh, ummm... when did Hillary become a Republican? Did she consult with the Bush brain trust (headed by karl Rove) to create that cliched "red phone" scare ad?

Desperate times call for...

Hillary camp explain foreign crises experience, classic!

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/02/pregnant_pause.html

Good evening. There were a couple of good comments posted in response to this article today. Those good responses were filled with statements like, this election is important, lets stop attacking one another and just comment on the article or at least share your views on what is a good candidate. Calling candidates phony, nicknames they don't deserve is unnnecessary. Why is a candidate phony any way? Which candidates are real? Which ones are not just making a campaign promise they don't intend to or know they cannot keep? Get over yourselves in your zealous support for your candidate. If you support a candidate and have negative things to say about their opponent or those who support your candidates opponents then why should any one vote for your candidate if you represent what that candidate is all about? Check yourselves before you wreck yourselves. Enough, help your candidate and be done with it. Making statements that are hurtful and untruthful is showing your ignorance.

The thing that as been pissing me off this past couple of days is how all the Women who support Hillary have started going around bashing other women who don't support Hillary. I mean give me a freaking break, it's not a must Women must support Hillary. Maybe they come to realize that she's not the right Woman to carry the mantle of the first Woman president. All this Hillary femminist supporters really need to wake up and smell the coffee.

Obama has it all, isn't it ! . The Bill-Hillary tandem can't watch this guy. He is the best!

Bush, Clinton, and McCain are all in agreement: Obama must be stopped.

They see the crowds, and it drives them crazy.

They see the spectre of a 65% election, where the pendulum could swing hard, and it makes them afraid.

Bush knows his Iraq legacy is safe in the hands of Hillary Clinton. Bush knows Clinton would come to the White House with no mandate, in a close election.

But Obama is a huge threat to Bush. Uhh, did anyone see Bush's presser on Friday? That was a President who saw his "legacy" going down the drain. If McCain or Clinton wins, Bush knows it becomes THEIR war.

If Obama wins, Bush is the bagholder.

Accordingly, Obama must be stopped. That's why all three are after him.

ATTENTION: REZKO TRIAL STARTS MONDAY!

EACH WEEK WE HEAR ANOTHER CORRUPT BACKER WITH HUSSEN OBAMA!!! OBAMA IS CONSTANLY SURROUNDED BY CORRUPTION, ESPECIALLY WHERE CAMPAGINE FUNDS ARE CONCERNED WHERES CNN? MSNBC? FOX/ ROLAND MARTIN? IDIOT TUCKER CARLSON? BILL KRISTOL? TIM RUSSETT? AND ANYOTHER SO-CALLED TABLOID ENQUIRER TYPE ANTI FEMALE JOURALIST

Obama and his team have ducked "legitimate questions" about Rezko, who faces federal corruption charges most centrally involved with Gov. Blagojevich's administration. "Now the trial is beginning, it will be more difficult for him to avoid these various serious questions. I can guarantee you that. Obama's Relationship with Rezko Goes Back 17 Years. Obama Kept Contributions from Accused Fixer's (REZKO) Wife and Others ABCNews.com Analysis Shows. Obama opportuned Rezko to obtain jobs in the Blagojevich administration for Obama allies. For the third time in more than a year, Obama's presidential campaign announced it SO-CALLED shedding more donations

WHERES THE MEDIA??? We are sick of the media pushing obama down our throats! Another indictment former Dallas Mayor Hill, Obama camp financial contributor and supporter charged with federal bribery, extortion and conspiracy. Again has their hand full with other publically indicted bankrollers like Rezko.

NEXT! British-Iraqi billionaire lent millions of dollars to Barack Obama's fund just weeks before an imprudent land deal investigation. Money transfer from Nadhmi Auchi, one of Britain's wealthiest men, helped Mr Obama buy his mock Georgian mansion in Chicago. A company related to Mr Auchi, who has a conviction for corruption in France, registered the loan to Mr Obama's bagman Rezko. Mr. Auchi says the loan, through the Panamanian company Fintrade Services SA, was for $3.5 million.

Another Obama "financial friend" Rep. Rick Renzi indicted Friday on multiple federal charges, law enforcement sources tell CNN. In a 35-count indictment handed up by a grand jury in Arizona, Renzi is charged with conspiracy, wire fraud, money laundering extortion and insurance fraud. The indictment stem from Renzi's efforts to use his position in Congress to promote "land deals" Again more corrupt camp donations for Obama!

Every day this week, more and more conservatives are starting to figure Obama out for a phony... Here's an honest article in the Wall Street Journal discussing the ability of Clinton, as a centrist workhorse, to achieve more in the White House than the rhetorical performer, Obama.

http://online.wsj.com/article/wonder_land.html

Obama is under the microscope and his friend of the little White Haired Democratic Trolls - who ambushed Hillary the day before Super Tuesday - they are asking her to leave the race.

Wow. What idiots. What nerve.

They nudged him into the ring without him having a resume.
How easy do they want to make it for this Obama?

A little scrutiny, the Rezko trial beginning tomorrow, caught doing nothing about Afghanistan for fourteen months while he bragged about it.

Now they want her to make it easy on him.

Oh my gawd. They need to stick a sock in it. they have alot of walsies.

50% of Democratic voters support Hillary. And we're not going anywhere.

The masks can fall off all around Mr. Obama. And he can leave if he can't take it. Or Hillary can win. That's the only way it's ending.

Has anyone seen this video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmLfE30-kZw

This amazing! You go Barack!

Hey everybody, lighten up! Take a Valium, have a beer, or say a prayer. This is one of the most important elections in recent history. We are all passionate about our candidate and with so much at stake Tuesday, tempers are flaring. One thing I blame for this is our exhausting election process. I would very much like to see the following before I die:
A National Primary to chose the democratic and republican candidates. Not to last longer than six months prior to the National Election.
Uniform, tamper proof voting machines in every precinct in every state. ( With all the money this country wastes and gives away, this is possible to preserve our greatest right as a US citizen).
The winner is chosen based on a popular vote only. (Candidates would not have to raise the obscene amount of money to run for office).

As a rather new and infrequent Post reader, I find your stories well written and reported, but the readers that post comments are annoying. Do you have so few people that comment that you must post all sorts of off the subject and poorly written comments?

I am sick and tired of the Clinton and the Bush dynasty.
How long are we going to be deceived and tricked by this family to continually vote for them?
May be after Hillary, Chelsea their daughter will come for the presidency also.
The same reason that the Mobutus, the Eyademas , the Bongos and the Castros dominate politics in their countries. Hillary has nothing to offer than a recycling of old politics. That is why Obama should be their . A new lease of life and a change of face for America.

Americans wake up !!!

Jack says it all!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9NUPLaoUdo&NR=1

YOU BET MR. OBAMA THREW THE CIRCUS FLOAT ROUTINE OUT

IT WAS SO AMERICAN IDOL

NOW HE READS FROM TELEPROMPTER AND SCRIPTS

LIKE GEORGE W. BUSH

CLUELESS

rjclay,

You MUST be an idiot as you believe Clinton has 35 years of experience. Go ahead and believe that ridiculous lie instead of realizing that the only reason she's in this race is because she happened to be married to the president.

It's too bad; there are a lot of women out there much more qualified than Billary. She pushed one of those higher-qualified women out when she made her senatorial run in NY!

Many comments have been made that Barack Obama has gotten a free pass from the press. The fact is there is more to print on the Clintons because of their years of being in the public. The other reason is that many of the things people think should be challanged about Obama is that they have been checked and there is no story there. Now the Clinton's say they want all the connections made public about Rezko in Chicago. Is there any facts at all that it hasn't all been made public? Non that anyone knows of. With all the denials the Clinton's have made about shady fundraisers they have been associated with they should understand this better than anyone. The candidates who refuse to make their tax returns and papers public seem empty in calling for disclosure when there is no more disclosure anyone seems to know of. Desperate people do deperate things. Unfortunatly Senator Hillary Clinton looks desperate.

The WPost is so damn biased! Am I the only one that notices how it always sides with Obama? I'd love to have a newspaper that takes the opportunity to report the news with objectivity and publishes balance Op-Ed's. Is that too much too ask? Probably so!

BARACK OBAMA

14 MONTHS ON THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE

NOT ONE MEETING

AND

AFGHANISTAN IS STILL WAITING FOR "CHANGE"

MR. OBAMA SAYS HE WAS "TOO BUSY" -- WITH HIS OWN LIFE

HOW LONG WILL WE HAVE TO WAIT ??

VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON

HELP YOU CAN DEPEND ON

FROM DAY ONE

Mr. Obama is changing tactics because he knows he is in trouble. Ambassador Joe Wilson offers a detailed critique of Mr. Obama foreign policy pronouncements and finds them empty [1]. He says that going into Iraq and deposing Saddam Hussein was a mistake, but that implies he would have left this bloody dictator and terrorist supporter in place. Many of us are sorely disappointed with the incompetent prosecution of the war by the Bush administration, but that is not how Mr. Obama distinguishes himself. He says we should not have gone in in the first place. Just how does Obama plan to explain his antiwar rhetoric to the military families who have made such great sacrifices for our country?

Obama has also been called out on injecting race into the primaries [2]. He cries foul and tries to silence any critic by implying that there is a racial undercurrent to their comments. But pointing out that his cocaine use might be an issue for some people is just pointing out the facts. It was an issue for George Bush in 2000. Nothing racial about it. Nor was there anything racial about Bill Clinton complementing Jesse Jackson on running good campaigns in '84 and '88.

And the press is ever so reluctantly shining the bright light of scrutiny on Mr. Obama. After months of subtle and not so subtle bias in his favor, they have finally gotten around to asking if Mr. Obama's fabled words actually define policy positions, and whether his actions match his words. And like campaign finance or the nuclear power legislation he said he passes but really didn't, too often the answer is that he studiously avoided actually taking a position and when he did flip flopped.

And what of Toni Rezko? Many months after accepting and using the indicted Mr. Rezko's contributions, Mr. Obama returned the money. But did he also work to retract the millions in federal funds that he directed Mr. Rezko's way?

Obama is also picking up endorsements from the likes of Farrakhan and David Duke. That is the problem with his "blank canvas" strategy; pretty much anyone can decide he must be for their position.

His supporters are pressuring Hillary Clinton now because they know the infatuation has peaked. If the Democratic party is lucky, Obama will go the way of Eugene McCarthy, a provocative critic but not the candidate of choice. If the party does not wake up soon enough, there is always the McGovern scenario.

[1] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joe-wilson/obamas-hollow-judgment_b_89441.html

[2] http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=aa0cd21b-0ff2-4329-88a1-69c6c268b304

Hillary is part of the older generation of politics. It's funny to me that she thinks her time in the senate gives her the experience for that call at 3 am. When that reporter earlier asked the simple question as to what past experience has she had that would give her the edge for a pressure decision like that -Hillary could not answer this. The fact is, Hillary has not done much while in the senate. Her 'experience' as first lady does not equal what is needed for the leader of this country. Hillary has consistantly showed bad judgment when under pressure -like her vote to go to war with Iraq. Hillary flip-flopped her support of NAFTA. She uses her failure to pass universal healthcare back in the 90's -as experience. The only thing that it shows is her failure to be a leader. Hillary can tout all she wants about her experience and her 'fighter' personality. What we need right now is a leader with good judgment, who is willing to listen instead of fighting everyone -who will bring everyone together. Good judgment meaning not doing anything stupid like invading Iraq without an exit strategy. Hillary's been in the whitehouse before, but she didn't get there on her experience. Hillary lacks leadership and good judgement. Vote Obama 08

Digi: when the republicans get finished with skanky michelle obama let's see what you think? until then, Bill Clinton was THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES regardless of what you ungrateful "other" skanks think.

Obama's shiny surface is beginning to crack! For the first time he can't overwhelm Clinton by outspending her 4-to-1 (which started from Iowa) and can only outspend her 2-to-1! Obama's unprecedented level of primary campaign spending is now running aground at the 2-to-1 advantage.

Obama's scrambling around to answer questions, now that they are starting to stick instead of smothering her points by the press advantage and obscene levels of outspending. Obama's scrambling around is starting to expose vulnerabilities and cracks in his faux leadership charismatic persona.

Republicans, who have been slow to catch on to how much of a phony and hypocrite Obama, with his chameleon-like rhetorical personality, have now started to come out for Clinton and against Obama.

Karl Rove in the WSJ concluding Obama's a phony who has been pulling the wool over Republicans' eyes by masquerading as a centrist:

http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB120355939956381797.html

David Brooks clip on YouTube, saying that the Bush Administration has concluded that Hillary Clinton is the better-qualified candidate for President (among all candidates, not just Democrats)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4l9yRezxsA&feature=related

Rush Limbaugh now says that Republicans voting for Obama to get Clinton out of the race should stop and urges them to vote for Clinton:

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/republicans_vote_hillary/2008/02/28/76379.html

The Republican leadership has taken a good look at the field of candidates and I think they have come to the conclusion that Hillary Clinton is the one who will solve the problems that the next President will inherit. Her talents and determination are obvious to anyone who isn't infatuated with Obama's idealistic phenomenon.

The support of Republicans in the last couple of days going into the Texas Primary will help avert the train wreck that an Obama Demagoguery-cum-Presidency would be.

donnaspeaks: you must have audited his lectures. he was never a professor at U. of Chicago. maybe you're another "copy cat" like obama?

Posted by: Thinker | March 2, 2008 04:55 PM

Thinker, we dont need another hearing on Afghanistan. We dont. America does not have all the answers. Trust me, the rest of the world who run NATO have leaders who also think. The world doesn't care if Hillary scores a point by claiming Obama did no work.

What they look at is this: It's 3 am in the morning - do you know where your husband is? When the phone rings, which ugly skank is going to be on the other end of the line?

Since we'll be speaking at the University of Chicago very soon, we thought it would be topical to share with you the interesting responses we received to our earlier request for stories about presidential candidate Barack Obama as a U. Chicago law prof.

The general consensus: he's awesome, as beloved in the classroom as he is on the campaign trail. Several raves appeared in the comments, and we also received some via email. First, from Professor D. Daniel Sokol (who also blogs, at the Antitrust & Competition Policy Blog):

I had Obama as a prof when I was at the University of Chicago for a seminar on race and the law. His title of Senior Lecturer is one that only a few people hold-- the others are Richard Posner, Frank Easterbrook and Diane Wood -- all former Chicago full time faculty members now on the 7th Circuit.
Obama was an amazing professor and in many ways, I wish I could be as effective in the classroom as he was. He engaged students in the material and showed great skill at eliciting good student comments and managing class discussion. Obama also integrated in social science empirical literature into our discussions to better inform some of the normative discussions that we had. I thought he managed intellectual diversity very well, as we had a spectrum of students from libertarians and conservatives on one hand to radicals on the other.

Additional anecdotes, plus a digression on Obama's views on the Second Amendment and gun control, after the jump.

From a different tipster:

I had Barack in a seminar titled "Current Issues in Race and Law" in the winter of 04, one of the last classes he taught. He was thoughtful, engaging, and liked to doodle while listening to student presentations (always paying attention though, judging by the questions that he would ask at the conclusion of the presentation). He was good enough as a professor that students stuck around 30-40 minutes even though he would sometimes be late as he was running for in the senate primary at the same time. I'm looking forward to campaigning for him in Texas.....
Sure, tipster, go right ahead -- although it doesn't look like he really needs your help.

In addition to former students, law professors love Obama too. See here (cameo by Larry Tribe) and here (Cass Sunstein).

Response to Posted by: David2007 | March 2, 2008 03:48 PM

David, I did not read the link, so my comments are not about the content of the link. HOwever, I must thank you for posting a link that purports to show that Barack Obama has experience in POLITICS as it is played in political arenas all over the world today. Did you really believe that Americans want an idiot or wimp for President? They want and NEED someone who will fight - just like John McCain, Just like Hillary Clinton.

Thank GOd Barack Obama has been in the trenches - he will be able to defend both himself and this NATION when he becomes President. Butterflies don't run for President, remember that.......

Let us pray Hillary gives up on Wednesday. A fat consolation prize is waiting: She could become Madame Speaker of the Senate Majority. No need to campaign for that job. They just give it to her.

Senator Obama would be wise to throw away the script or at the very least change the order of its presentation while freshening it up.

At this point in time, everyone has heard the Obama speech and even though his message is real, it is becoming stale due to redundancy and accordingly looses it impact to excite and energize. He needs to focus on the fact that Senator Clinton herself does not represent real change but rather a likely continuation of the same game of party politics in Washington everyone outside of Washington is tired of.

Meanwhile, it appears that Senator Clinton in the last few days has finally rediscovered her own voice and is creating a little momentum of her own by picking up on Obama theme that she needs the people help her make "change" in Washington. Her friendly appearance on Saturday Night Live last night helps in making her seem less aloft. But it very well may prove to be too late.

Senator Barack just needs to take Texas both in the popular vote and in the number of delegates and by doing so cause all the pressure of attention to focus on Hillary bowing out in the best interest of the Democratic Party.

Since we'll be speaking at the University of Chicago very soon, we thought it would be topical to share with you the interesting responses we received to our earlier request for stories about presidential candidate Barack Obama as a U. Chicago law prof.

The general consensus: he's awesome, as beloved in the classroom as he is on the campaign trail. Several raves appeared in the comments, and we also received some via email. First, from Professor D. Daniel Sokol (who also blogs, at the Antitrust & Competition Policy Blog):

I had Obama as a prof when I was at the University of Chicago for a seminar on race and the law. His title of Senior Lecturer is one that only a few people hold-- the others are Richard Posner, Frank Easterbrook and Diane Wood -- all former Chicago full time faculty members now on the 7th Circuit.
Obama was an amazing professor and in many ways, I wish I could be as effective in the classroom as he was. He engaged students in the material and showed great skill at eliciting good student comments and managing class discussion. Obama also integrated in social science empirical literature into our discussions to better inform some of the normative discussions that we had. I thought he managed intellectual diversity very well, as we had a spectrum of students from libertarians and conservatives on one hand to radicals on the other.

Additional anecdotes, plus a digression on Obama's views on the Second Amendment and gun control, after the jump.

From a different tipster:

I had Barack in a seminar titled "Current Issues in Race and Law" in the winter of 04, one of the last classes he taught. He was thoughtful, engaging, and liked to doodle while listening to student presentations (always paying attention though, judging by the questions that he would ask at the conclusion of the presentation). He was good enough as a professor that students stuck around 30-40 minutes even though he would sometimes be late as he was running for in the senate primary at the same time. I'm looking forward to campaigning for him in Texas.....
Sure, tipster, go right ahead -- although it doesn't look like he really needs your help.

In addition to former students, law professors love Obama too. See here (cameo by Larry Tribe) and here (Cass Sunstein).

yankeenana2: NO. obama doesn't have any original words or thoughts. he is an "actor". what's wrong with that????

kat7 - I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, but Obama's father died in an accident and his mother died of ovarian cancer. His medical record would not shed any light on his father's death and his mother's resulted from cancer of an endocrine organ that the MALE Obama doesn't even have.

Again, Obama thinks he can say the wrong things and get it ignored. I know he is the one who injected race into the campaign in South Carolina and I believe it was before Iowa and NH. He and his buddies said the Clintons were racist. Everyone needs to know that it is okay to be against Obama or for Hillary without being called a racist. He needs to be accountable for what he says and does. The press has let him have a free ride, Brian William (NBC) as well as others. And, yes, they do make it harder for Hillary, but she should go on to win the nomination.

Posted by: katherine11 | March 2, 2008 03:41 PM
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katherine11, you couldn't be more right. the reason that the media refuses to put obama under the proverbial microscope is because america has coddled him and his black constituency. they actually believe if they collectively ignore challenges and accusations then the challenges and accusations magically disappear....POOF!!!!
WHITE GUILT is the reason and those so called "victims" play it to the hilt after they become full fledged members of the pity party. farrakhan is their leader. don't let obama fool you. obama is very happy for farrakhan's endorsement. frankly obama probably called rev. wright of www.tucc.org, his black church, so the reverend would call farrakhan on his behalf to thank him. it wouldn't appear kosher to the majority if he made the call.
we have a little more than ten months until mccain takes office. time appears to be on mccain's side.

When Hillary said Obama Took Deval Patricks speech and folks got upset, well now he is copying Bill Cosby words about don't feed your children fast foods, help them with their homework make sure they get to bed early those are all of Bill Cosby's words can't Obama get his own words or ideas

i don't know if anyone's done this, but..

here's another version of "YOU MIGHT BE AN IDIOT"

You might be an idiot...

If you think Hillary Clinton actually has "35 years of experience" in public office. She only has 7, and Obama has 11. A good chunk of her "experience" is just experience at being married to Bill Clinton. Does being married to a rocket scientist make you qualified to run NASA? No.

You Might Be An Idiot:

If you think that Bill Clinton single-handedly was responsible for American economic growth, that Hillary Clinton had anything to do with it, and if the the particular circumstances which led to the 90's boom (and subsequent bust) are easily repeatable. Obama's got the better economic advisors, such as Austan Goolsbee.

You Might Be An Idiot...

If you think Hillary's record of failure in health care reform means she'll be any more likely go get something passed this time. Frankly, neither candidate's plan is going to be passed intact, so which one do you think would be able to bring people together to address the problem as sensibly as possible? The most polarizing figure in American politics?

You Might Be An Idiot...

If you think Hillary's foreign policy will be any less cynical and opportunistic than Bill's was.

You Might Be An Idiot...

If you think that there's any substantive difference on the environment between the two candidates.

You Might Be An Idiot...

If you think the candidate who is willing to subvert democracy on behalf of the teachers' unions (see: the Nevada Caucus) will be willing to stand up to them to create the educational reforms we need.

You Might Be An Idiot...

If you think that attending cocktail parties for 8 years in the White House and not even having a security clearance means a heck of a lot in terms of "experience". After her health care policy fiasco, I don't remember her taking on anything substantive in the Clinton Administration.

You Might Be An Idiot...

If you think that Hillary is a "master politician" (see how terribly this campaign has been run), or if you think that either of the Clintons is in any way, shape, or form "on your side", instead of on their own side, for their own benefit (see: pretty much every fundraising and Clinton Library scam they're connected with).

FOOL ME ONCE (Shame on Her): 1992 During the Clinton run-up to the White House the primary platform was to deliver Universal Healthcare to the American People.

FOOL ME TWICE (Shame on Us): 1996 During the Clinton run-up to the White House the primary platform was to deliver Universal Healthcare to the American People.

Sorry Hillary and all you Hillarites...

There is no FOOL ME THREE TIMES...

Twice the Clintons ran off with the Healthcare (Lobbyist) Industry money like a couple of desperate crack addicts with zero regret. Not even an empty promise after they settled in for a 2nd term in 1996. To make matters worse, Clinton signed legislation to nearly cripple medicare in 1997.

This is the stark truth... if you don't believe me, look it up for yourself.

Do not believe Hillary's word for it, and most certainly don't trust CNN.

Senator Obama, keep up the policy discussions! Continue your dialog with people. The more we know about the details, and work out differences, the more effective you will be if elected president.

I MUST BE AN IDIOT

because when I graduated college the people who had good jobs got them from family connections and the best thing I could find was a waiting job after an Ivy League education.

I Must be an Idiot

because I used to want to help less fortunate people until I realized how heartless the world is and became consumed by greed and ultimately "drank" alot, but when I started listening to Obama I thought, at least I'm on his radar.

I must be an idiot

because now that I've launched multiple businesses and am wealthy I think Obama's lift on payroll tax caps (currently at 90K) to safe social security is exactly the spirit of what will strengthen the middle class the past administrations have destroyed.

i must

have thought that term limits shouldn't be circumvented by running a spouse. Sucks to be dumb.

Now I'm going to drive my BMW to the gym and smile that the good guy is winning. HRC = carpetbagging 2 faced LOSER

"As a woman, I would love to see a woman in the White House, but I would much rather see the right woman, and it ain't her. A black man who can inspire us to save ourselves is far more useful than a woman who needs to do it for her legacy."

Very well put, CanadianObserver..............
I've been trying to wrap my mind around the negative feelings that I have for Ms. Clinton and why I am opposed to her sitting in the Oval office, and you put it in a very clear "nut shell"

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If my Super Delegate votes Hillary, they will not get my future primary votes. We should do all we can to vote these people out of office!

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Well, even the Post has its Obama supporters now and relentless they are, just like the rest of them. And writing that Obama has not really proven himself yet and that he is inexperienced is - of course - not done.

Now Obama is saying that he really does have substance, but the media pushed him to be such a pop-figure preacher? He's blaming the press for the fact that he's campaigned like a revival-tent charismatic snake-oil salesman! Bad media, for making him preach like that instead of talk substantively about issues.

What a rationalizer... doesn't even own his own campaign persona. Typical chameleon type; it's always living up to other peoples' expectations that cause their problems.

It's not so easy to win when you're only able to outspend your opponent 2-to-1 instead of 5-to-1, is it? It's easier to be a glam politician when you have a disadvantaged opponent!

I dont understand WHY the media has chosen Obama as the favored candidate? I've witnessed the media adore the Kennedy's and definitely Ronald Reagan. But is Obama the "lesser of 2 evils" so to speak? between he and Hillary?
Have times "REALLY" changed so much? McCain has ALWAYS been a jerk, well known for it and proud of it.
I would like to be fair, even if the media ISNT..I supposed its the Year Of the Radical, I just hope African Americans arent assuming - the Change Campaign is specifically going to affect african americans, because it wont. He is NOT Dr. Martin King, Malcolm X, any of the well known leaders who made a CIVIL difference in our day to day lives. he will have this entire COUNTRY in HIS hands. This not a Revolution! or is it that the Majority of this country just cant Fathom the thought of a Woman Leader, just as the country and other countries couldnt fathom the thought of women in sports. No Billy Jean Kings in the White House, everybody apparently sleeps better. how weak this country STILL is, learning nothing from history itself!
Media use your power to HELP us get the right leader, not the light leader.

Obama may have thrown away the script but it seems as though, now, he has picked up on Hillary's words, those of which she has spoken about on this mortgage crisis. Is he "borrowing" her words to use against her, as he has "borrowed" words from so many others? I don't know if the words are the same but the thought is the same.
I wish he would stop talking and do some work! Maybe, just maybe, I would then consider voting for him.

As a Clinton supporter, I fear it is all over. That said, I hope she does not quit any time soon. Obama and his filthy minions in the media have been abominable to Hillary, and no reason she needs to do them a favor. At the end of the day, too many of us are too bitter over this entire campaign, and when the Rethuglican attack dogs go to work, Obama will suffer a thousand nicks, and will barely have enough energy to reach finish line, by which time McCain is already there.

Very befitting given the atrocious manner in which the Obama supporting hooligans have behaved all year.

From today's "Head of State":
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/03/authentic-change.html

"Sunday, March 02, 2008
Authentic Change

The WP reports today that Obama has "thrown away the script" in Ohio, turning from his stump speech to a series of town hall meetings.

Ohio is tight. The contest is too close to call. This is, for a campaign, a "red phone" moment.

Note how Obama responds.

Instead of an array of tactical shifts in persona, Obama shows the strength and fortitude that he has demonstrated all along--in a kind of reverse Rove (recall that Rove was famous for taking his adversary's greatest strength and attacking it) taking his greatest ability and putting it to the side, moving from score to improvisation, to further answer the questions of the people--something he has done all along the campaign trial, but now is putting aside his greatest strength to emphasize.

Note what he could have done: He could have gone on the attack, using surrogates to derogate Hillary's past. He could have attempted to change the presentation of his personality, in order to find the persona that consultants recommend, changing his tone, his emotions, shifting through traits like a anxious shuffle through a deck of cards, searching for the combination that would meet the seeming demands of the day. In a moment of pressure--at 3 .A.M.--he could have responded with panic and artifice.

Instead, he moves *away* from his strength, and presents himself simply before the people.

This is judgment, which arises from a known and consistent self. It does not arise, despite experience, from a self that uncertain, fearful, and therefore driven by fear, to change under the pressures of the moment.

This is what will count when genuine moments of crisis occur in our future evenings, in our 3 A.M. moments, and in the early dawn.

Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/03/authentic-change.html"

OBAMA IS NOT A MUSLIM, IS AN AMERICAN CHRISTIAN, AND REMEMBER YOU GUYS U.S.A IS NOT FIGHTING WITH MUSLIMS IS FIGHTING WITH TERRORIST, THERE ARE SO OTHER PEOPLE WITH OTHER RELIGION FIGHTING WITH THOSE TERRORISTS. IF YOU HAND AGAIN THE WHITE HOUSE TO REPUBLICAN THEN NOMINATE H.CLINTON, SHE CAN NOT DEFEAT McCAIN

I remember being very excited about Antonio Villaraigosa when he ran for the first time for Los Angeles mayor. His energetic rethorics, his charisma, his background as an activist and the fact he is a minor, I felt moved, emotional and even tearful. Immediately after he got elected though, it became quicly obvious that his charismatic ambition was not from the real urge to do anything good for people but only for his political success. Ambition is not an evil by any sense but Antonio was too plagued by the instinct to serve himself, he was not suited to a post that serves great number of citizens. Back in his campaign, people shouted in tears "Si Se Puede" together with Antonio. What people didn't realize was the dreams they had for "Si Se Puede" was a totally different one than that of Antonio. Barack, unmistakingly reminds of Antonio sadly. I can see a selfserving ambition in its purity in him. People will realize very soon if Barack is elected, that their dreams for "Yes We Can" were not the same one Barack had. They will also realize Barack used their dreams as the vehecle to acheive his and only his which doens't have room for others.

Isn't it embarrassing when you realize that you've been brainwashed by Karl Rove, Ken Starr and the GOP to hate Hillary and Bill?

"Again, Obama thinks he can say the wrong things and get it ignored. I know he is the one who injected race into the campaign in South Carolina and I believe it was before Iowa and NH. He and his buddies said the Clintons were racist. Everyone needs to know that it is okay to be against Obama or for Hillary without being called a racist. He needs to be accountable for what he says and does."

KATHERINE11 - YOU ARE AMONG THE WORST OF THE CLINTON SUPPORTERS FOR THE TYPE OF GARBAGE YOU SPEW IN THESE BLOGS. YOU, YES YOU, NEED TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT YOU SAY OR DO. I CHALLENGE YOU HERE AND NOW TO EITHER PUT UP OR SHUT UP. BACK UP YOUR EMPTY LIE AND PROVIDE THE QUOTE, WITH THE TIME AND PLACE, THAT SENATOR OBAMA EVER CALLED EITHER OF THE CLINTON'S A RACIST!

This has been the strategy of the Clinton camp ever since they started getting the sound thrashing that they have been experiencing. Lie and distort; and if that doesn't wor, Lie some more. I can't blame die hard Clinton supporters like Katherine for all of this. They are merely guilty of employing the same dirty tricks of the candidate they idolize, for whatever reason. Hillary Clinton is the one who bears the true responsibility. Remember, "The Buck Stops Here"? The Democratic Party needs to get past the lies and the dirty tricks of the Clinton Campaign. America needs to get beyond the devisiveness and the use of fear to keep Americans down and submissive to the will of the politicians who rule rather than serve. It is time for a change! It's time for citizens of this country to rise up and take our government back from the special interests and the corrupt politicians who have made a career out of service to them and grown enormously wealthy in the process. America NEEDS Barrack Obama a whole lot more than he will ever need us. Vote Obama '08!

Chavez of Venezuela,

needs to be aware that there are two assassians entering his country in 3 days. Europeans that speak fluent Spainish...they have been hired by Blackwater, but not directly.

They have an Israeli trained agent with them. They will enter through Paraguay and come into Colombia.

Put an ad out to have them brought to you in one piece...they will squeak like mice if you squeeze them.

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AFRAIDOFME-Your Back!

LOL! Who left the Door open? ;~)

now let's examine some of the selling points of the

repulsive scammers

"The Clintons," are to blame for everything that they are getting no profit from

but the Repulsive Scammers are profitting handsomely from...

the invasion of IRAQ and current occupation

is paying the Clintons "how much,"

the NAFTA, crafted during Reagains time pushed through George H.W. Bushes efforts and finally signed during the Clinton Administration...

the Bush Family has relations with Central, South America y Mehico for various reasons...

most of the OIL and DRUG RELATED,

and they are profitting handsomely from NAFTA.

so little peanuts listen closely,

what does a thief do? think in terms of your "little sister," or brother who just stole and ate all of the cookie w/o sharing.....

they blame it on another sibling... that is guileless.....think Karl Rove here

SEARCH on KARL ROVE, gay lips, Jeff Gannon

who profits from these things that the repulsive scammers are screaming about ????

they do. tax breaks and incentives to outsource manufacturing...

whose watch is it occuring on ???

who is encouraging it ?

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Stay until convention Hillary. Don't give up.
When a candidate says his supporters will not vote for you in the general deserves no loyalty? Its not over til the fat lady sings as far as I'm concerned. Fight, Hillary, fight>

B'OB AND ME!

Hillary is relentless and heartless. Relentless in playing the same old dirty tear-down politics. Heartless in voting for a war that she knew was wrong because she had her eye on the prize. She was not simply showing bad judgment then; she was showing her lust for power. The prize is the Presidency of the most powerful country in the world. Her lust for power has resulted in the deaths of thousands of our brave men and women and of innocent civilians and in the near bankrupt condition of our nation. It may be that she will win against Obama because of her fear mongering and war mongering, and the Clinton dynasty will once again make money for themselves and their wealthy supporters in the WH. But I for one will not vote for the Clintons in November, and many of the younger and newer Democratic voters will be, like me, registering independent for the next decade and more. This will be the Clinton legacy, a relentless and heartless empty victory.

Iowatreasures -- a lecturer is still a faculty member, albeit an adjunct. All this means is the Senator Obama was not in a tenure-track or tenured position. Professors (Assistant, Associate and Full) at most universities are either tenured or have a tenure-track position. This generally means that, in addition to teaching, they also conduct research and engage in service to the university (at several levels) and to the community. Obviously, Senator Obama was not making academia his life's work. What is your point?

"Obama rocks.

I've waited a lifetinme for a person like Barack to be president."

((((Statements like that are creepy!))))

"Hillary has many virtues, but Barack has all I need in a president. --Maybe there's some amount of risk with an "unknown", but I think I know enough about what I'd get from another Clinton adminstration."

((((...even creepier when you admit Obama's an unknown!))))

"If running a campaign shows us anything about how a candidate might run the country, I think we've seen where the efforts of experience and judgement have gotten us.

Obama rocks."
Posted by: max | March 2, 2008 03:42 PM

Three words: George W. Bush.

Campaigning proves nothing. Governing is everything.

14 MONTHS ON THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE

NOT ONE MEETING - IN 14 MONTHS !

AFGHANISTAN IS STILL WAITING FOR A MEETING

AFGHANISTAN IS STILL WAITING FOR "CHANGE"

HE WAS "TOO BUSY" WITH HIS OWN LIFE

WATCH HIM SCURRY TO HOLD ONE - TOO LATE, CAUGHT YA!

You Clinton slammers and accussers will be damn sorry if your God Obama makes office. The truth on this guy you will find out,when our country falls.All you Obama dreamers are just what you are dreamers and hopers.You knock the only one that can help this country.If he makes it to office, you might just as well put your heads between your legs and kiss your ----- good-bye. concerned viet nam vet

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As a life long Democrat and liberal I have never been more excited or proud of my party and the outstanding choices we ofter for the world,s future! I believe Hillary is the past and Obama Hussein is the future and the leader of the Democrat Party!

Our parties strong stand against the Constitution and Rule of Law for Illegal Immigration should bring the Illegal Immigrants into our camp. Indeed, all immigrants from around the world that want to immigrate to the USA but do not want to go thought. the hassle of legal Immigration will support us. Finally American can live up to its creed under the Democrats and Citizens of the world irregardless of Religion, Race, Tribe, Nationally, Education, Diseases or Skills can come to American and be citizens of this great Nation and the Democrat party while slopping at the trough of public welfare! Our growing and expanding population with our teeming masses from sea to polluted sea will drive our wages to third world status and allow to us compete with China, India, and other third world countries and end outsourcing of our jobs.

It may require a balancing act having both the Blacks and Latinos under the same tent with Latino hater of Blacks while Blacks are very upset over Latinos Hi-Jacking their civil rights by equating walking across a border to the nearest welfare office, as the same as blacks experienced with slavery. The Ethic cleansing of Blacks in LA by Illegal Hispanics will also make his task harder, but if anyone can ofter them welfare haven then Obama is the Man.

I think as a seasoned, & experienced drug user Obama and as he says in his book , knowing how to score some blow, he will address how backward, unfair and punitive our drug laws are and legalize drugs. This would release millions of Drug users and drug dealers from prison. They, with their knowledge and experience could go into selling, distribution and expanding the legal drug trade and help our economy and the Black & Hispanic communities. In addition to saving tax payers Tens of Billions now spend in incarceration, prevention and drug fighting cost. Of course, all drugs would have a high tax but still be much cheaper than Illegal drugs. We could earmark the tax receipts from drugs to the millions of Uneducated Immigrants we gave American citizenship to help offset the net cost of 20k per year each cost in public welfare. This would reduced the price of drugs to where the average American citizen could afford good coke, just like the elites and Politicians, This will also reduce the price of creak for our poorer citizens, and make their life more enjoyable for our teeming masses. But I fear legalizing drugs will be beyond even Obama. The drugs lords have so many Billions due to high prices , to share with our Politicians to keep our borders open for drugs, illegal immigrants, and terrorist to pour across, that the special interests will never let him legalize drugs. I know Obama, you will do your best and that is all we can ask!

14 MONTHS ON THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE

AFGHANISTAN IS STILL WAITING FOR "CHANGE"

HE WAS "TOO BUSY"

Shailagh Murray shows yet again that she's nothing more than a transcriptionist. We can get the same information from Obama's site or from a video of the event.

Shailagh Murray's real job should be to hold the candidates accountable for what they say and act as our representative there. Surely there are things Obama said that others would take issue with. Yet, Murray didn't bring those up.

She might want to consider her career prospects when regular citizens start doing the job she should be doing and then distributing it via Youtube. Why would anyone care what she says, when regular citizens are the ones with the real story?

If you want to do the job Murray refuses to do, please go to Obama's appearances and videotape his response to this question:

http://nomoreblather.com/barack-obama-and-the-immigration-marches

THE 3AM AD WASN'T ABOUT FEAR

IT WAS A REALITY CHECK
AND A WAKE UP CALL

3AM: OBAMA ANSWERS THE PHONE:

HE SAYS: "WHO"???

I just came off the Iganais thread. Great fun. The Obamanites were up in arms. Two articles in one day vetting Obama. Iganais and Rezko in NYT. Probably too late but some hope at least. Watched Meet The Press on Msnbc, the Obama network. No mention of Rezko there. Iganais is now the devil. What whining. Fun, fun, fun.

OBAMA'S DEVELOPED A NEW "STYLE" ALRIGHT

HE NOW READS EVERYTHING FROM A SCRIPT LIKE G W BUSH !!

CLUELESS WITHOUT HILLARY ANSWERING FIRST

I write as a Texan who has already early voted for Obama. I also write as a former Republican of 35+ years -- and as a voter who considers all issues carefully with forethought before clicking the lever in the voting booth.

If I had any doubts at all about my early vote, this report on Obama's discussions (not speeches) today in Ohio affirms that I made the correct decision. It will be a proud moment for me when I do the Texas Two-Step dance and go back to my voting location to participate in the Texas caucus next Tuesday night. I trust as well that many fellow Texans will do the same. I add that I have many treasured friends in Ohio, Rhode Island and Vermont -- and I believe they will make the same decision I did -- a vote for an honest, not perfect but truthful, and believable presidential candidate discussing issues, problems, and dare I say it -- SOLUTIONS. My friends believe, as I do, in HOPE for a better world.

Barack Obama, I thank you for echoing so many of my beliefs -- and I look forward to a much better, HOPEFUL world in 2009 and beyond.

Debrabrose-Anyone, that realizes Obasama's ACLU past, his "Church's" Politics, and his "Timely Conversion", would also be wise to FEAR Him!

Look up the description of the "Anti-Christ" sometime!

Seriously, what are you claiming He has ever done that qualifies him as the Chief Executive, or Commander in Chief? :-(

Senator? Maybe.

President and Final Decider, Head of the Military, Broker of Foreign Relations?

NO, but HELL NO!

YOU MIGHT BE AN IDIOT:-)

If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary's than they had ever been before or since.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..

For the first time, reading these posts, the Republican Party is really afraid of Obama. Didn't work with Hillary and it will not work with the Republicans.

'barack obama and me' todd spivak's book suggest self serving
editing of eros + desire component in hungry reporter meets good looking senator...chapter.
the expected snapshots from hidden realities we all have are not surprising really,
what is the part obama is capable of playing next is what counts.

Phew, a lot of rabid hatred and fear rampant among the dear readers. Here's the deal. Hillary's fine. Barack's fine. There is scarcely a wisp of difference between them in policy. And most anything post shrub is welcome. The truth is the longer both are in and rending each other the more grateful the GOP is. Let us keep our heads cool and see what Wednesday morning brings. If Barack carries the majority of delegates inside those four states, let's get behind him. If Hillary does, she deserves to choose her participation. But everyone together now-- fair and clean.

The phrase to remember, for anyone serious about voting, is ......... ANYBODY but Hillary!

Hillary. America's next military commander following the Bush.

Bush/Bush = Bad for America

Clinton/Clinton = Bad for America

Tabita wrote
pendulum thing
rezko now
taxes next
and so on..
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

What???? Maybe you should read more Hillary is the one that has not shown her tax returns and what about her contributor Mr Hsu???? Notice she has not brought up Rezko again since she and Pres Clinton took a picture with them!!!

elroy1-Sad, but true! :-(

Only thing keeping me from wailing despair, is the thin hope it will be McRomney Vs. O'Billary!

That, and the hope St. Ralph Nader brings! ;~)

GOP ers hate losing money and it going to the people....

GOP ers hate not being able to charge their business expenses to the people...

who is going to make out in IRAQ ????

SAUDI UAE KUWIAT bushCo and CRONYs and war profiteers

will AMERICANS see that money ?????

how are you doing AMERICA ????

can you feel the love as the GOP ers call you

welfare cases ?????

as they take home the lions share of the FISCAL BUDGET to their families...

and you lose your homes ????

look around. come out of your middle school playground popularity contest and look at what is going on.

Hillary is going through McGovern treatment and

Obama is the new Hubert Humphrey...who will either lose to McCain or be restrained so that he is ineffective if he gets the nomination..

JFK was killed

Jimmy Carter was backstabbed.

Bill Clinton persevered and built the economy back up....he withstood these people for 8 years....and the GOP ers don't want any more

MONEY interruptus

take them down, remove them from power permanently and pass legislation that requires them to be just as responsible for their felonious behavior as you have to be...

arrest them for treason, and execute the death penalty sentence, that will be given to them when found guilty,

of treason against these United States while colluding with

foreign national against the United States...

yah hoooooooooooooooooooo.

crushthem.

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Xfiler the last sentence in this article by
David Ignatius he writes
No one who has watched Obama's sweep toward the nomination would say it's impossible that he can be the great uniter. I just wish we had more evidence.
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Mr Obama states the he works well with both parties - he looks at both sides of an issue. Your article and most people are accustom to one way or the highway. Each party should state there view and some kind of reslove should be reached by each party however if not then it becomes a Democratic issue or Republican issue. Take a look at Pres Bush if it does not go his way he veto's it. Now Former Pres Clinton looked so good in his presidency because the first George Bush had put a lot of issues into congress already and why would a Republican Congress and Republican
Senate not pass it???? So Pres Clinton gets a pass and he was also inexperience!

there is no "war," there is an occupation to steal IRAQ's OIL.

who will benefit from that theft? bush family and friends...period

there will be no benefit to the AMERICANS that are paying for it,

the invasion of IRAQ is welfare for warprofiteers and bush family and friends. period. they are the lazy smut that want you to pay their way through life.

let's be honest here.

Obama is using the repulsive scammer drum beat

he is taking a page out of the Karl Rove playbook, he's using the results of the repulsives relentlessly hammering the AMERICAN CITIZENS about the head and shoulders for 16 years with their cover story....for why it's allright for them to have homosexual love fests in the whitehouse on a regular basis, but Bill Clinton is a bad person

think I'm a whacko, nut case ? good prove me wrong

SEARCH on Jeff Gannon, Guckert, George W. Bush, Karl Rove, are gay

Obama has been taking a ride off of the Repulsive scammers work

as his own.

"The Clintons,"

the only Democrats to defeat the Repulsives SCAMMERS on their home turf

in the last 60 years

Reporters should ask Senator Obama if he will release his medical records. Sadly, his mother died of cancer at very early age. His father also died at early age but his medical conditions are still unknown to this date.

Fortunately for us, rat-the, the self-proclaimed "radical conservative," doesn't have much of a choice for this election. St. Cheney is outta here 1/20/2009, pal, and either way, your world is gonna get a whole lot worse. Bank it.

I like both, Hillary and Obama, they both have some weaknesses but are still very convincing candidates. Yet at this point I think there's only one way to go: Obama. It's a simple situation. With his 11 straight wins and advance in delegates, it would in any case take a brutal fight until August to still beat him. Still possible, but very ugly and destructive. Hillary could more or less gracefully bow out after the next contests. Let's do everybody, including both of them a favor, finish this race and unite the Democratic party. Too much is at stake in the world to have this fight go on much longer.
Btw: if they were in inverse situations, I would argue in favor of Hillary.

Riiiinnnggg, Riiiinnnggg, Riiiinnnggg, Riiiinnnggg, Riiiinnnggg . . .

Camera pans to clock showing 3:00 a.m.

Hillary sits up in her half of the double bed, and picks up the red telephone. The other half of the bed is mussed, but empty. She speaks.

"Now where did that man go tonight? Off cattin' around again, just when I need him most . . . "

a pendulum thing
rezko now
taxes next
and so on..

IowaTreasurer I hope this is all over on Tuesday because you are a miserable person to attack Barrack because he is African American. It is one thing that you do not agree with him politically but to attack him personally shows how stupid and ignorant you really are. You are on every blog of the Washington Post Get a LIFE!!!!

Copy cat Obama had to return with almost the same add ,but of course has to bring up Iraq.Dosnt Obama know how to bring up anything original himself. Seems he has to agree with Hillary at the debates ,and use everyone elses speeches.What a great canadate for President.Give a break. He is nothing but smooth talk and a hypocryt. It dont take much for Obama to sell the young as if they were a product. I feel real sorry for this country if he makes it to office.No one has even got the real facts on this guy.I know the facts and this country will be in the worst shape it has ever been.American people are very naive voting for someone they dont know about.Atleast I know Hillary is Red,White ,and Blue all through. America dont want the facts ,just hopes and dreams. Be real. concerned Viet nam Vet

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/29/AR2008022902784.html

In case anyone cares......

hopefully obama will get
fair-shot in next SNL
he has equal starpower and
potential to shine in different roles.
extreme humor for 4thatsmile!
push it!

Posted by: tabita | March 2, 2008 03:46 PM
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Last night, when Obama was in Ohio, he was not confident, and looked like he didn't even want to be there.

He looked worried. I noticed that people like Lou Dobbs and other are not beginning to ask hard questions - like on Face the Nation, when Axlerod was asked hard questions about Obama and Rezko. Of course, Axlerod did not answer at all, no answer at all.

I am wondering if Obama is now sweating the vetting? gw.

No matter how much mud and what the variety of mud is slung at Obama, he comes up triumphant. He doesn't sling mud back rather he uses reason to get across his positions and what he says defies all the criticism leveled at him.
Best of luck to Obama.
Ruth Beazer

http://www.houstonpress.com/2008-02-28/
news/barack-obama-screamed-at-me/full

Barack Obama and Me

It was the year 2000 and I was a young hungry reporter in Chicago covering a young hungry state legislator
By Todd Spivak
Published: February 28, 2008
Houston Press

Posted by: David2007 | March 2, 2008 03:48 PM
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I am looking forward to reading your reference. http://www.houstonpress.com/
2008-02-28/news/barack-obama-
screamed-at-me/full

gw.

I read somewhere that Obama was a lecturer at college, not a professor. gw.

Is read somewhere that Obama was not a professor, but a lecturer. gw.

With her new Nuclear ad Hillary is trying to place fear and stamp out our hope. See (link below) what even her own husband, Bill says about such attacks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZW0m2nWB_M

The press has been soft on Obama. Well, here is an excellent story by a reporter who covered Obama while he was in Chicago. A more realistic picture of Obama that showed his ambitions for higher office, the lengths he went to achieve them, and how he did not hesitate to walk over people to accomplish his ends. Not quite the picture of Hope and Unity and Change that you expected to see from this candidate. He has warts and some of them ain't pretty.

http://www.houstonpress.com/2008-02-28/news/barack-obama-screamed-at-me/full

Barack Obama and Me
It was the year 2000 and I was a young hungry reporter in Chicago covering a young hungry state legislator
By Todd Spivak
Published: February 28, 2008
Houston Press

hopefully obama will get
fair-shot in next SNL
he has equal starpower and
potential to shine in different roles.
extreme humor for 4thatsmile!
push it!

Obama rocks.

I've waited a lifetinme for a person like Barack to be president. He's youthful. Ambitious. Ready for a new era. He's clearly intelligent. One of the reasons he's never flustered in debates is he's thought things through and he know why he holds a given opinion. Even when people come at him from an unexpected angle, he's ready to respond.

Hillary has many virtues, but Barack has all I need in a president. --Maybe there's some amount of risk with an "unknown", but I think I know enough about what I'd get from another Clinton adminstration.

Obama has run a masterful campaign. Running against a person with name recognition, party backing, and a boatload of cash, Barack has shown us all he knows what he's doing. If running a campaign shows us anything about how a candidate might run the country, I think we've seen where the efforts of experience and judgement have gotten us.

Obama rocks.

Again, Obama thinks he can say the wrong things and get it ignored. I know he is the one who injected race into the campaign in South Carolina and I believe it was before Iowa and NH. He and his buddies said the Clintons were racist. Everyone needs to know that it is okay to be against Obama or for Hillary without being called a racist. He needs to be accountable for what he says and does. The press has let him have a free ride, Brian William (NBC) as well as others. And, yes, they do make it harder for Hillary, but she should go on to win the nomination.

scharb- LOL! :-o

St. Ralph Nader to the RESCUE!

Alahu Ackbar, and Solom! ;~)

Hopefully this will all be over on March 5th and we can collectively move on to the more serious business of uniting people and getting at the very serious work to be done in "the fierce urgency of now". As much as this is "personal", is her life's work, it's not her time and it is not just about her, and perhaps that is worth looking at a little closer, anyway. Why, indeed, does she deserve it? I have never been comfortable as to why she wants this, other than to make history over making a difference on the world stage in these critical times. Barack Obama will take the United States and the world a lot further than she is able, by virtue of her own history. As a woman, I would love to see a woman in the White House, but I would much rather see the right woman, and it ain't her. A black man who can inspire us to save ourselves is far more useful than a woman who needs to do it for her legacy.

ratthe @ 03:27,

You repeat Islamaphobic fearmongering about Obama's name... You DO know that Ralph Nader is an Arab-American, don't you?

Oh, yeah... I remember the "Where's the Inspiration?" narrative. You can never please some people.

Incidentally, that was back when the press was very biased against Obama. They were quick to snatch up the following cycles:

"Is America Ready for a Black President?"
"Is Obama Black Enough?"
"Obama Has ZERO Experience"
"Hillary is Inevitable"
"Barack 'Hussein' Obama? Must Be a Muslim!"
"Obama Keeps Gaffing!!"
"Hillary's Run a Perfect Campaign"
"ZOMG, Obama Wants to Bomb Pakistan!"
"Hillary is Still Inevitable!!"
"Obama is a Party Traitor/Trotskyite Who Hates Universal Healthcare!"
"Hillary is STILL INEVITABLE!!!!"

Thank God, Republican Voters are so far above interfering in the Dimocrat Socialist Primaries-Heaven Forbid! ;~)

But then, even WE realize what a GREAT CHOICE Ralph Nader truly IS! :-)

Billary? Obasama?

Move over!

St. Ralph Nader is Baaaack! ;~)

Fact of the matter is she can muddy the waters all she wants...and better hope no one in the media takes a long look at who has contributed to her race BUT the real issue is she will not have the majority of votes cast by the American public come convention time....will she and Bill the perv strong arm the supers to cast their vote for her? There by making a mockery of the American publics ability to elect a President? The only way she can win, short of all futher primaries voting for her by over 65% is for her to steal the election.....so go ahead....vote for a candidate like that and if it works? You deserve everyting that will come with her...such as someone sleeping in the white house that was accused of rape the last time he was there and under empeachment....and he has shown his ability to be an influence on her..or she would not have stayed after he strayed over 20 times.....people need to calm down and look at the facts and stop letting this be about women vs men

The Post seriously needs to hire better editors. Almost every single post from The Trail over the last 3 weeks has at least one error.

after SNL hillary is energized BUT injected her pitch 4the military steel industry in ohio. when was the extermination of palestinians pre-designed?
holocaust...the under the table annapolis 'pact'
olmert.. a conspirator to unmask or a hero to applaud?

after SNL hillary is energized BUT injected her pitch 4the military steel industry in ohio. when was the extermination of palestinians pre-designed?
holocaust...the under the table annapolis 'pact'
olmert.. a conspirator to unmask or a hero to applaud?