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Clinton Questions Obama Adviser's Dealings With Canada


Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) greets supporters at the University of Toledo in Toledo, Ohio, March 3, 2008.(Reuters.)

For more on what the Clinton campaign is calling "NAFTA-gate," read The Washington Post's Fact Checker.

By Perry Bacon Jr.
TOLEDO -- Hillary Clinton, asked about the state of her campaign with two must-win primaries tomorrow, declared "I'm just getting warmed up." And in a news conference here, she found a way to combine her two favorite arguments in recent weeks: Barack Obama is all talk and no action and the media are biased toward him.

Obama's top economic adviser, University of Chicago professor Austan Goolsbee, recently met with some officials in the Canadian consulate in Chicago. One of the Canadian officials wrote a memo that said that Goolsbee said that Obama's rhetoric about the North American Free Trade Agreement, a controversial trade deal that both Obama and Clinton have slammed in recent weeks as leading to the loss of jobs, was overheated because of the campaign. Goolsbee has acknowledged having the meeting but denied suggesting Obama's rhetoric against NAFTA was only a campaign device.

Clinton accused Obama of doing "the old wink-wink."

"It raises questions about Senator Obama coming to Ohio and giving speeches about NAFTA and having his chief economic adviser tell the Canadian government that it was just political rhetoric," Clinton told reporters. "I don't think people should come to Ohio and tell the people of Ohio one thing and then have your campaign tell a foreign government something else behind closed doors. That's the kind of difference between talk and action and that I've been pointing out in this campaign."

She then challenged reporters to pursue the issue more aggressively.

"I would ask you to look at that story, substitute my name for Senator Obama," Clinton said. "If some of my advisers had been having private meetings with foreign governments and basically saying ignore what I'm saying because it's only political rhetoric ... I think it raises serious questions."

With NAFTA very unpopular here in Ohio, the two candidates have warred over who is more opposed to the trade deal. At a rally in Toledo following the news conference, Gov. Ted Strickland blasted Obama for the meeting and noted that Clinton was backed by a man who had fought against NAFTA back in 1993, former House Democratic leader Dick Gephardt. The chief proponent of the deal whom Gephardt was battling was, of course, Bill Clinton, one of the agreement's biggest advocates back them.

Later in the morning, an Obama spokesman called Clinton's charges "an absolutely untrue statement. Obama and everyone on his campaign have been crystal clear in public and in private about his position on NAFTA."

Ohio voters seem not to be picking up much difference between Obama and Clinton on the issue. A poll by the Cleveland Plain Dealer on Sunday showed 52 percent of voters thought the candidates' positions on NAFTA were "basically the same," with 17 percent favoring Clinton's and 15 percent favoring Obama's.

Clinton's news conference was at 8 a.m. here, and the New York senator had already been awake for several hours. She greeted workers at a plant here that makes Jeeps at 5:30 in the morning, telling them, "Hi, I'm Hillary Clinton," and asking for their vote.

She greeted several dozen workers, and a pattern emerged that was visual evidence of the much greater support Clinton has won from women than men in her White House run. Female workers greeted Clinton warmly, stopping, occasionally hugging her and asking her to pose for pictures with them. Some of the male voters did this as well, but many quickly shook her hand (a crowd of reporters blocked any way to enter the plant that didn't mean going past Clinton) and walked by, avoiding eye contact with the New York senator.

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Hillary has to explain why she is endorsing "John McCain" who has more experience to become the next president" instead of Senator Obama running as a donkey? Hillary is destroying the Donkey Party with her endorsement of John McCain. People...something is wrong when Hillary supports and endorsed McCain on March 4, 2008. (See the video about it) If you are a donkey...this should bother you? Also, why did Texas, RI and Ohio vote for Hillary when she is A BIG TIME NAFTA SUPPORT along with Bill. Hillary Clinton isn't a true donkey. She is a true REPUBLICAN! Stop voting for her. HILLARY CLINTON IS A BIG TIME NAFTA SUPPORTER AND OHIO VOTED FOR HER

Posted by: Hot2Speak | March 6, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

I saw the following comment and I wonder how if the media has read it. Can somebody tell me about it?

ATTENTION: OBAMA FINANCIAL BACKER REZKO TRIAL STARTS TODAY

MUST READ BEFORE YOU CAST THAT IMPORTANT VOTE!!!

SEE OBAMAS CONNECTION WITH SADDAM HUSSEN AND REZKO!
Land deal 'mistake' piles the pressure on Obama Mr Auchi, leading supplier of arms to Saddam's regime and convicted for corruption in France, the British-Iraqi billionaire lent millions and millions of dollars to Barack Obama's fund just weeks before an imprudent land deal investigation. In addition money transfer from Nadhmi Auchi, Obama used to buy his Georgian mansion in Chicago. Mr. Auchi says the loan, through the Panamanian company Fintrade Services SA, was for $3.5 million!!!. Mr. Auchi's money was made doing business with the regime of Saddam Hussein, Mr. Auchi was a leading supplier of arms to Saddam's regime. A former Belgian ambassador to Luxembourg charged that a bank in Luxembourg owned principally by Mr. Auchi laundered funds -- including oil for food money -- for Saddam and other Islamic dictators. Auchi helped French and Italian firms win a huge oil pipeline contract in Iraq, chiefly by paying off Iraqi officials, according to testimony given by an Italian banker to prosecutors in Milan. In 2003, he was convicted for his role in what was then the largest scandal in French history, involving payoffs from executives of the oil company now known as Total to political figures in Spain, Germany and Africa.. The connection between Mr. Auchi and Sen. Obama is cause for great concern in the U.S. The national news media have been remarkably incurious about Sen. Obama's relationship with Mr. Rezko, and his with Mr. Auchi. The Obamas bought the house for $1.65 million -- $300,000 below the asking price -- perhaps because Mr. Rezko's wife purchased from the owner an adjacent garden plot for $625,000. (The sellers deny they offered the Obamas a discount.) The Times of London wondered where Mrs. Rezko got the money to buy the garden plot. At the time, she had a salary of $37,000 and assets of only $35,000, the Times learned. Her husband told a court that at the time he had "no income, negative cash flow, no liquid assets," the Times said. Auchi participated in more than just Rezko's pizza and property ventures, however; he also contributed to Barack Obama's campaign by donating to a 2005 fundraiser through a company of which is wife is a Director. I quote the relevant paragraph from a London Times exclusive: Times has, however, discovered state documents in Illinois recording that the Panamanian company Fintrade Services SA lent money to Mr Obama's fundraiser. Fintrade's directors include Ibtisam Auchi, the name of Mr Auchi's wife. Mr Auchi's spokesman declined to respond to a question about whether he was linked to this business. The donation is significant, obama is the Ill politican mentioned in the following ABC News report on the FBI affidavit filed in US Attorney Fitzgerald's case against Rezko before Obama's political godfather was arrested on Monday: According to an FBI affidavit filed in the case, Rezko sought to get a visa for Auchi to visit the United States by contacting "the same Illinois government official ( Obama)

Posted by: rosalynneus | March 5, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Here we go with that "35 years of experience" again. How old do think the woman is. Thirty-five years puts us back to 1973, the year she graduated from law school.
So she started 35 years of experience to run the nation while making the coffee as a junior partner in a law firm .
You are one of those who believe everything that you read, right?

Posted by: wly34 | March 4, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Obama has always been two faced.
Ego driven two faced people always sound good till they are caught being two faced.
I feel bad for his supporters who are desperate for an MLK but wont find it in this guy.

When he has his funkies put down a Woman whose given 35 year of serivce to our country that should been a hint.

Posted by: hhkeller | March 4, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Another non-story that the Clinton crowd is trying to whip into existence. This is a technique the Clinton's learned from the Republicans during the '90s. A clear case of the abused becoming the abuser.

Posted by: jchaney | March 4, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

DRUNK DRIVING. On a "side note" if the Clinton Campaign wants to throw out so many questions about Obama's Camp, why don't they "question" why they're Adviser Mr. Sidney likes to endanger the lives of ALL AMERICANS BY DRIVING DRUNK (oh actually, it an AGGRAVATED DUI BECAUSE HE WAS SPEEDING TOO. He should be TAKEN OFF their Campaign. RIDICULOUS.

http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080220/NEWS01/389355365/-1/news

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/blumenthalmug1.html

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/01/12/top-clinton-adviser-arrested-drunk-driving-media-mum

Posted by: themist | March 4, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

I am really disappointed in Hillary. It is apparent she will do or say anything that she thinks will get her elected.
And, to compare herself to McCain?? What a traitor.
Barack is the only hope for our country to change. He will change our country and the way our broken goverment works. With Hillary it will be business as usual.
As a Democrat for many years will not say that I will vote republican if Hillary is
nominated, a true Democrat is more intelligent than to even think that, but
my respect for Hillary has diminished.
However, have enough faith in voters to believe will not be faced with that problem. They will see through all this dirt being thrown by Hillary.
Go Barack Obama 08.
katie

Posted by: kathlenec | March 4, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: slimconnors | March 4, 2008 3:18 AM | Report abuse

Hillary's new claim regarding "Homeland Security" is pretty funny. Bill's new campaign spokesman is Matt McKenna. McKenna's mom and dad suddenly have numerous positions with the government:

Daddy McKenna:
New York Life Insurance Agent (full time/mentoring 3 agents)
Federal Security Director of Montana (insurance agent to Homeland Security)
Appointed Gallatin County Airport Authority (not advertised to public: 2 ayes 1 nay)
RAF (Charity/Nonprofit): Acquiring land for his private CHARITY for the sake of pilots. Publiicly seeking donations of property, money, life insurance policies, anything of value. Recently obtained property from an "elderly couple" who bequeathed their property to him for his RAF (Recreational Aviation Foundation). Read the bylaws! WOW...
Owns his own airport. Mc Kenna Airport Montana
Delinquint on his property taxes in Montana where he owns millions of dollars worth of property.
Matt worked on Governor Schweitzer's campaign and Senator Jon Testor's campaign.

Matt followed Conrad Burns around with a camera for weeks, accusing burns of corruption because of his connections to Abramoff. Yet, Testors campaign has been linked to Hsu...

Matt's mommy is also a full time NY Life Agent.
She was rewarded by Governor Schweitzer for Matt's nasty camera work, with an appointment to the DOT Aeronautical Division. (What a joke). But this will assist daddy McKenna with his Charity/Non-profit RAF in its effort to acquire property, and grants. He's already acquired the Wolfe Grant.

Sister McKenna who happens to have just graduated from college two years ago has already recieved the PRESTIGIOUS NY LIFE LIFETIME AWARD for sales in Montana. Wow, only like 26 years old too! Recently appointed to the "Board" of Big Brothers and Sisters" just like MOMMY. I doubt she has ever wiped a kid's nose in her life.
Daddy McKenna now meets with Senator Max Baucus routinely. Daddy, who was just an insurance agent a few years back, now Federal Security Director, Airport Authority, President of RAF Charity...and of course insurance agent.
Meeting with Senators Baucus, Testor and the Governor will boost McKenna to National Homeland Security when Clinton is elected. Via the nasty little man Matthew McKenna.
Oh, and then there's this little tid bit about a company named MSE in Montana. MSE was built on federal dollars pure and simple pork and earmarks. That's your dollars. MSE, SY STENBERG President of NY Life Insurance, MAX BAUCUS AND JON TESTOR meet with Matt's daddy in Montana? MSE was convicted by the Justice Department in 2000 of "money laundering" and campaign fraud.

Clinton Corruption, from campaign headquarters. And they are questioning Obama? How funny...

Posted by: familyrecords | March 4, 2008 1:51 AM | Report abuse

Fortunately for Hillary, the public have a short memory and forgot about travel gate, the sexual harassment of Paula Jones, Jennfer Flowers, and Monica. Bill must be licking his chops just thinking about access to the fresh interns.....

Posted by: rodmccree | March 3, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: whatmeregister | March 3, 2008 05:57 PM

Why don't you take your superiority complex and go back to work for Obama. How dare you question my abilities. I am probably much older than you anyway.

Posted by: justmyvoice | March 3, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

The Canadian consulate ASKED for the meeting. Then they violated much stricter confidentiality laws by LEAKING it to press. What motive OTHER than trying to DERAIL Obama? The conservative Canadian government LIKES NAFTA and wants to DERAIL any threat to it (Obama). That's why they leaked the memo. typical political BS, and Hillary (if she's not part of the whole thing) knows it. She really sucks.

Posted by: steveforester | March 3, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Jekyll and Hide reborn. Not only Obama but his advisers as well. The monster of Frankenstein? Nah, too tame.
Hillary should press on. The ground is now being plowed and who knows what skeletons we might find there. Nobody's too good to be true.
The press is beginning to see the light. They are having an epiphany. Alleluia. I m not saying that they are the power almighty but maybe second to that. Kidding aside, they should be treating the same candidates equally. These are dangerous times and their indifference might boomerang to them and they will loose credibility. Its not too late press. Stand up and be counted. Dig and dig hard not for dirt, but for truth.
Rezko, NAFTA and the Canadians, the Iraqi guy, where was he twenty years ago or even before that, his utterances about foreign policy and national security, his wife's loyalty before she became proud of America, his nationalism. The list could go on and on.

Posted by: bobbyvalenz | March 3, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

I would think Canada should focus on Canadian matters and elections. Let us decide our U.S. election. Just a thought.

Posted by: bfjam | March 3, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

justmyvoice,

I'm not getting desperate at all. I just wondered why you were so quick to voice your resentment and disgust at Obama after the press floated an unsourced rumor that he'd do the EXACT SAME THING as Bill Clinton did, namely, appointing a retiring GOP senator as his Secretary of Defense. I'm guessing you never even heard of William Cohen prior to my post and that you were just spouting off at what you falsely perceived as some sort of "weakness" on the part of Sen. Obama. But either Bill Clinton was also a traitor to his party for what he did (especially since, in 1996, the Republicans were in control of Congress), or else your rant at Obama's "offense" is dimwitted and hypocritical in the extreme.

BTW, I never even mentioned Hillary having any influence or "blame" for Bill's decision. I merely suggested that they share the same political philosophies and therefore she'd be just as likely to appoint one'a them cursed GOPers to her Cabinet as he was. If you're having trouble keeping up with the adults here, Imight I suggest you try some remedial reading comprehension courses? They can do wonders.

Posted by: whatmeregister | March 3, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Hillary has continued to lie throughout this campaign. She can be confronted with the known facts one day, acknowledge them, and then go on the trail the next and go right back to her lies. It is sick and I hope that people will analyze, listen and see through her.

As a woman, I am ashamed of Clinton's behavior. She has behaved in a manner that reinforces the stereotypes of a teary, whining, nagging housewife. The very worst part about it is that we all know that she is really just a robot who is only capable of mean, conniving behavior so the out of control behavior that we have witnessed is acting in order to seem human. It really worries me that many people do not see through her fake "I'm so proud to be sitting her with Sen. Obama" moments and her crocodile tears.

This country needs someone that the world can interact with. Someone who actually gets along with people; not someone who is used to blackmailing people into submission. Has anyone noticed that all the superdelegates that support Clinton sound like Stepford wives. Its like they all got the same script. Geez.

Posted by: TKS1 | March 3, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: ajtiger92 | March 3, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

More lies from Slick Hilly. Has she no shame? Of course not, she's a Clinton, and thus a lying two-faced politician, by definition. And she keeps repeating these lies even though they they have been publicly denied by the Canadian embassy, the Prime Minister's spokesmen, and the minority leader in Parliament (who is calling for the firing of the person who put out these false claims). A real political scandal is brewing in Canada over this attempt by the current right-wing government to influence our Presidential primary. That is what Americans should be outraged about right now, along with Hillary Huckabee being incapable of telling the truth (who now claims she is 'just getting warmed up').

Posted by: obamarama44 | March 3, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully everyone read carefully what the alleged memo from the Canadian official interprets what was said. Even if what he states in that memo is perfectly accurate, which is very much up in the air, the Clinton Campaign has done a heck of a job with their "paraphrasing" to turn the comments into something entirely more ominous than what the memo indicates. This is just the latest in a long line of lies and distortions being used by Hillary Clinton and her campaign to discredit Senator Obama. What is particularly aggrevating about these tactics is that she is leading the charge for John McCain and conservative talk show hosts like Rush Limbaugh in attacking the likely Democratic nominee. This is what I refer to as Clinton's "scorched earth policy". If she can't win the nomination, she will destroy the candidate who does and take her party down with her if necessary. Some have even suggested that this is exactly what the Clintons wish to do so that Hillary can launch another bid for the nomination in 2012 without having to worry about facing an incumbant Democrat in President Barrack Obama. As usual, it's all about the Clintons and may the party be damned!

Posted by: diksagev | March 3, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Obama on Obama's experience:

"I can't see running for president"

Why have you ruled that out, running nationally?

"You ... you ... know I am a believer in knowing what you're doing when you apply for a job and I think that if I were to seriously consider running on a national ticket I would essentialy have to start now before having served the day in the Senate. Now, there are some people who might be comfortable doing that but I am not one of those people."

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4gexyfVpFMU

He is not one of those people? ... The Microwave Candidate is just an ambitious rookie who will do anything to get the nomination ... even pretend that now he is a seasoned politician!

Posted by: trace-sc | March 3, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: whatmeregister | March 3, 2008 03:01 PM

Realy getting desperate aren't you to support Obama no matter what. I don't care what Bill CLinton did then because he is not running for President and we have just run through 8 years of smearing aagainst the dems for not being strong enough to protect the country. Time you got over blaming Hillary for Bill's actions, and if you want NOW to have republicans continue the mantra that Obama can't even pick his own democratic person, then it is NOT what I want to listen to any longer.

Posted by: justmyvoice | March 3, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Statement by the Canadian Embassy
Washington, D.C., March 3, 2008 -- The Canadian Embassy and our Consulates General regularly contact those involved in all of the Presidential campaigns and, periodically, report on these contacts to interested officials. In the recent report produced by the Consulate General in Chicago, there was no intention to convey, in any way, that Senator Obama and his campaign team were taking a different position in public from views expressed in private, including about NAFTA. We deeply regret any inference that may have been drawn to that effect.

The people of the United States are in the process of choosing a new President and are fortunate to have strong and impressive candidates from both political parties. Canada will not interfere in this electoral process. We look forward, however, to working with the choice of the American people in further building an unparalleled relationship with a close friend and partner.

http://geo.international.gc.ca/can-am/washington/menu-en.asp

Hillary's backed NAFTA and it was a cornerstone of Bill's White House years. Don't know Hillary's position on "working women", but know Bill's and it's "missionary".

Posted by: Smokescreen | March 3, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

What Is Obama Really Going to Do About NAFTA?

Some people blame our weak job market and economic troubles on free trade; however what we really need is smart trade. Hillary Clinton will promote trade that has higher labor and environmental standards. As President, she will ensure that trade lifts up not only American workers, but also workers around the world. She will as President demand a total review of all existing trade agreements and will not sign any new trade agreements until she ensures that trade policies raise our standard of living, and they must have strong protections for workers and the environment. I am the daughter of a former Fisher Body employee and I know the issues of trade and job loss are very important here.
As an Ohioan, I have heard falsely, that Hillary is for NAFTA. Despite false claims regarding Hillary's position on free trade, she always has and always will put the American worker first. Last summer I read Carl Bernstein's biography on Hillary Clinton, who by the way is no fan of the Clintons, that Hillary actually opposed NAFTA behind the scenes. Importantly, in Ohio on February 24, Obama actually stated "I don't think it's realistic for us to repeal NAFTA, that would actually result in more job loss". So I urge you to look at the facts before you cast your vote. To learn more about Hillary Clinton's plans to help the Middle Class visit www.hillaryclinton.com

Posted by: duganal | March 3, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

justmyvoice: "I also see the MSM is pretty oblivious to the fact that he has also said he is considering putting a republican Hagel as Head of the Dept. of defence. Really nice democratic move there Obama following the republiican mantra that democrats are too weak to protect the US and thereby implying that your own party isn't good enough to take care of the country!!! Go run as an independent and pick all the republicans you want. I resent even the hint that you would pick a republican for this post going against your own party."

How outrageous! How bipartisan! How... Clintonian:

http://www.defenselink.mil/specials/secdef_histories/bios/cohen.htm

No doubt you also deeply resented Bill Clinton for appointing William Cohen, a *gasp* Republican(!), as his SecDef in 1996, right? And you hate the fact that Bill believed that "democrats are too weak to protect the US and... that [his] own party isn't good enough to take care of the country!!!," correct? So why in the world should we put his wife in as POTUS if she shares the same belief that we Dems are too weak to defend the USA? By your reasoning, Bill Clinton was a sleazebag who went against his own party!

Posted by: whatmeregister | March 3, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

mthomas722,

Sadly, people like you are the problem right now. Look at what you posted without reading any comments or information.

This story didn't come from the Clintons (in fact the Clinton's were dragged into the story and, at least as of right now, there's no evidence to support it)

This story did not come out the day prior to the election. It came out a week ago.. only you didn't choose to educate yourself so you jump to the conclusion it's a smear tactic.

And the MSM heavily exploits these stories? What world are you in? I'm a solid independant voter and currently support neither of the candidates but I can assure you that most of the Obama-related stories that show potential for truth have hardly been mentioned and definately not reported on. As I stated earlier, the MSM still mentions that he "voted against the war" which is completely false.

EDUCATE YOURSELF!!

Dislike Clinton, Dislike Obama, Dislike McCain, Dislike whoever you want but at least have some knowledge of reality with which to base your opinions.

Posted by: magick75 | March 3, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Again, more sillyness posted:

Fellow Americans, get over the Iraq vote. The MAJORITY of the Senate voted on that resolution and, according to numerous polls at the time (research as I recommended); up to 69% of AMERICANS supported that resolution in 2002. Why? Because we let all the fear mongering about Muslims and terrorism cloud our own judgment so we could help support an agenda. Now when we see what a mistake most of us made, we lash out wherever we can. Hell, we're still letting them use fear of terrorism against us for agenda purposes (FISA and immunity for telecoms as an example)

The resolution in question wasn't even a war vote. It was to authorize military force if Iraq did not comply with weapon inspections and disarmament. The real truth is, the Bush administration (intentionally) jumped the gun and went in with military force while Iraq was complying. So who do we blame for that? How about Colin Powell, a guy I respected (even though I'm not Republican) who convincingly presented false evidence to the UN to help build support. Of course, Powell, a friend of Bush, resigned from the administration after he realized that he had been used to lie to the world. So how about Bush/Cheney? Or how about blaming we the people for letting it happen by not taking time to educate ourselves?

More proof we stopped thinking independantly and many of us still aren't. It's time we start thinking once again or this country will keep heading down the wrong path.

Posted by: magick75 | March 3, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

uh...let's see what news stories broke days before each election day...all triggered by the clintons and exploited heavily by MSM...and mine you none of them worked

IOWA - he's a drug dealer - result: won more delegates
NH - drug dealer, muslim and hillary crying - result: won more delegates
NM - more hillary crying, hillary lawsuit agaist caucus, oh and drug dealer, muslim - results: tie
SC - obama supporters are racist they only support black people - results: won more delegates
Super Duper Tuesday - the "snub" as the press put it and all of the above - results: won more states,delegates and votes
Cheseapeake Primary - the "pimp" word - results: won more delegates
WI & HI - supporters are a cult and all of the above - results: won more delegates
Texas & Ohio - all the above, secret conversation with the right wing canadian govt about nafta, red phone scare tactic...

it just wont stop but i guess the media isn't doing its job good enough for the clintons...i think obama is right again when he says if you keep doing the same old thing over and over and expect a different result, then you're crazy...judging from the past 30 + states this tactic will not work either.

Posted by: mthomas722 | March 3, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Hillary may some day be known as the President of the U.S.

But she will also have to live with the fact that she is destroying or perhaps it will read that she did in fact destroy the Democratic Party.

This party has become vitriolic.

The party is full of venom. It's sad.


Posted by: Iwantmyvoicetobeheard | March 3, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

When faced with allegations by CTV that her campaign had contacted the Canadian consulate 'indirectly', Hillary denied it and GAVE CTV FULL IMMUNITY to expose the name of the person who made the contact. To my knowledge, CTV has not named anyone. Can't get more transparent than that. Has anyone heard differently and if not, there is no issue of her campaign making the contact.

On the other hand, Obama flat-out denied the contact and now it is confirmed that one of his political advisors did have the meeting at the Canadian consulate in Chicago. This is a problem.

Posted by: redhiker | March 3, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

"I'm just getting warmed up."
Slinging mud? Exaggerating? Playing the victim? How about the truth? You don't have the delegates. You aren't the future of the Party. Or, as your man Jack Nicholson once said in a movie, "You can't handle the Truth!!"

Posted by: thebobbob | March 3, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: kwakuazar | March 3, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

If that's true of the Obama NAFTA comments, then she's done the same herself through surrogates.

Most importantly, she told senior military leaders she believed in the surge to Iraq, and also that her comments about withdrawing troops are not what she will actually do when elected.

Let's ask her why she didn't read the NIE when voting on the most critical decision of going to war.

Posted by: philcave | March 3, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Hillary knocked out a lot of Ohio families with NAFTA! A million jobs went overseas! Now Hillary is asking the families that lost jobs to vote for her? ...

We counter her negative message with our own ...

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Posted by: cooday | March 3, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

What right does anyone from his campaign have to call anyone from Canada? He is not the nominee yet and had no right to have anyone speaking for him do so. I also see the MSM is pretty oblivious to the fact that he has also said he is considering putting a republican Hagel as Head of the Dept. of defence. Really nice democratic move there Obama following the republiican mantra that democrats are too weak to protect the US and thereby implying that your own party isn't good enough to take care of the country!!! Go run as an independent and pick all the republicans you want. I resent even the hint that you would pick a republican for this post going against your own party.

Posted by: justmyvoice | March 3, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

People have to stop putting their own political endorsements before common sense.

Regardless of what words were exchanged here, the Obama campaign flat out denied it and even falsely claimed the story had been retracted. Now, with a "leaked" memo of the meeting, the story changes into that of a meeting happening only there was miscommunication. Be ignorant if you want to, that's your right, but to believe it's some kind of smear attempt by a different candidate or foreign government is nothing short of creating a conspiracy theory to brush facts under the rug. Obama lied! If he didn't know about the meeting, then his incredible "ready on day one" judgment for hiring Goolsbee comes into play.

As far as the allegations about the Clinton campaign doing the same thing, there hasn't been any facts released to support it and the story making the claim even says "low level" members which suggests if it did happen it likely wasn't done with authority. In contradiction, the Obama story, with legs to stand on, directly names his cheif economic advisor (who appears to admit to a meeting after all).

I swear, when people are told the candidate they like isn't exactly honest and has the same shady background as any other politican, they act as if they just found out the world isn't flat!

Disbelief... denial... lashing out at others.

Wake up, lemmings. Stop proving that the US Education system is working as intended by THINKING a little instead of buying glowsticks and waving them like cult followers.

We re-elected Bush, remember? It's time we learn from that mistake by accurately looking into each and every candidate instead of swallowing what they claim to offer without anything to support it.

Posted by: magick75 | March 3, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Let Hillary pursue these matters, White Water, Vince Foster and Peter Paul ,Peter Paul, Peter Paul just to keep the playing field even.

I would truly like to know why the News Media has not publicized the Peter Paul FRAUD case that Hillary is currently involved in. Actually it's Hillary and Bill.

Posted by: Iwantmyvoicetobeheard | March 3, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

So basically Obama lied to us?

Posted by: jack9 | March 3, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

I have read a number of Obama supporters posts who just use words like "Billary" "Shriery" "lier". These people are disrespect full to a great leader of this country and are wrong. If anyone is a lier here it would appear to be Obama. How dishonest can you get? You tell Ohio that HRC is responsible for NAFTA and you tell Canada that it is just political position. Obama is a dishonest scammer. I am also amazed that in this day and age men are voting against her becasue she is a women. Do they feel threatened by a women? The comment like shillary is a mockery to all women. I have two daughters and I want them to have the same opportunites in life that men have. Apparently there are a lot of men and women in this country who can;t get used to the concept of a strong women. Well get used to it my friends. HRC is going to pull this off and be our next President. She will make a great President and the country will be better off for electing her. Bye bye Obama. Also I generally like Obama. He is however overly ambitious and expereince light. He was elected to the Senate in 04 and decides to run for teh Presideny a year later. Wouldn;t it be logical to learn the role of Senator before you run for President. Ophra got alittle ahead of herself. And please the IRAQ VOTE thing does not qualify him to be president. He wasn't even a Senator to make the vote!

Posted by: politicalobserver1 | March 3, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

I thought initialy they denied the meeting.

Is Barack Obama stance on NAFTA contradictory?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=1822


.

Posted by: jeffboste | March 3, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

"Think of the US economy as being a very sick patient (after Bush leaves office that is exactly what the US economy will be), in fact one that is in the intensive care unit, suffering from all kinds of illnesses (high blood pressure, diabetes, heart condition, etc.). If that patient was you, who would you want to come and assist you, someone that talks about how good and nice it is to be well again, or one that knows and recognizes the symptoms and is ready to come and do what you actually need to get better. THE CLEAR CHOICE. Hillary Clinton.

*Change -Over 200 years of Male leadership. "Behind every great man there is a good woman" This is one woman you don't want to keep behind. BRING HER UPFRONT.
*Restore America's leadership in the world, America is ready to lead, but "YOU CAN'T LEAD IF NO ONE IS FOLLOWING." Hillary will make sure America's leadership role in the world is restored.
*Knows over 80 countries and their leaders *HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PROUD AMERICAN
*Will provide universal healthcare for EVERY AMERICAN.

Posted by: wmaster | March 3, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

So what's the big deal? This is small potatoes and easy to diffuse if there is nothing to hide. Clinton's campaign responded to the hint of 'indirect' contact by telling CTV they had immunity to publicly reveal the person's name because she had no knowledge about it. She is being transparent about it and Obama not so much. Why?

Posted by: redhiker | March 3, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

ATTENTION: OBAMA FINANCIAL BACKER REZKO TRIAL STARTS TODAY

MUST READ BEFORE YOU CAST THAT IMPORTANT VOTE!!!

SEE OBAMAS CONNECTION WITH SADDAM HUSSEN AND REZKO!
Land deal 'mistake' piles the pressure on Obama Mr Auchi, leading supplier of arms to Saddam's regime and convicted for corruption in France, the British-Iraqi billionaire lent millions and millions of dollars to Barack Obama's fund just weeks before an imprudent land deal investigation. In addition money transfer from Nadhmi Auchi, Obama used to buy his Georgian mansion in Chicago. Mr. Auchi says the loan, through the Panamanian company Fintrade Services SA, was for $3.5 million!!!. Mr. Auchi's money was made doing business with the regime of Saddam Hussein, Mr. Auchi was a leading supplier of arms to Saddam's regime. A former Belgian ambassador to Luxembourg charged that a bank in Luxembourg owned principally by Mr. Auchi laundered funds -- including oil for food money -- for Saddam and other Islamic dictators. Auchi helped French and Italian firms win a huge oil pipeline contract in Iraq, chiefly by paying off Iraqi officials, according to testimony given by an Italian banker to prosecutors in Milan. In 2003, he was convicted for his role in what was then the largest scandal in French history, involving payoffs from executives of the oil company now known as Total to political figures in Spain, Germany and Africa.. The connection between Mr. Auchi and Sen. Obama is cause for great concern in the U.S. The national news media have been remarkably incurious about Sen. Obama's relationship with Mr. Rezko, and his with Mr. Auchi. The Obamas bought the house for $1.65 million -- $300,000 below the asking price -- perhaps because Mr. Rezko's wife purchased from the owner an adjacent garden plot for $625,000. (The sellers deny they offered the Obamas a discount.) The Times of London wondered where Mrs. Rezko got the money to buy the garden plot. At the time, she had a salary of $37,000 and assets of only $35,000, the Times learned. Her husband told a court that at the time he had "no income, negative cash flow, no liquid assets," the Times said. Auchi participated in more than just Rezko's pizza and property ventures, however; he also contributed to Barack Obama's campaign by donating to a 2005 fundraiser through a company of which is wife is a Director. I quote the relevant paragraph from a London Times exclusive: Times has, however, discovered state documents in Illinois recording that the Panamanian company Fintrade Services SA lent money to Mr Obama's fundraiser. Fintrade's directors include Ibtisam Auchi, the name of Mr Auchi's wife. Mr Auchi's spokesman declined to respond to a question about whether he was linked to this business. The donation is significant, obama is the Ill politican mentioned in the following ABC News report on the FBI affidavit filed in US Attorney Fitzgerald's case against Rezko before Obama's political godfather was arrested on Monday: According to an FBI affidavit filed in the case, Rezko sought to get a visa for Auchi to visit the United States by contacting "the same Illinois government official ( Obama)
!

Posted by: rozz62 | March 3, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

ednyo2000:

No.

Posted by: JakeD | March 3, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Ladies and Gentlemen:
The fact is that Barack Obama is a politician and a frighteningly adept one at that! Sooner or later it was going to start coming out. This is not bad, it is just a reality check, and no matter the technicalities of words, the contact was MADE and whether Obama knew about it or not, it doesn't matter.
So, she is going to come out stronger than everyone thinks, no matter the outcome, for him to be successful he has to blow her out of the water. After all the money he has spent, the party establishment flanking his side, million member union(s), moveon.org and everything on his side, he should not win by a narrow margin he should knock her out. Only then, if I were her I'd reconsider going on...but I very much doubt he is going to blow her out of the water.

Remember: She has been swimming against the tide: his money,biased media, union(s) endorsements, etc. etc, etc, do you forget? For her to still be in such a strong position is nothing short of a miracle. If she were to lose by a knock out punch by Mr. Obama, he still cannot win without her!

If she manages to win the nomination, although she might need his support his followers are such radicals that they will turn away, especially many of the independents. The will simply not vote. If they vote for someone they don't believe in order to punish someone else, then that is not love of country, it is love of self accompanied by a hideous ego. So which is it, America?

Posted by: poh123 | March 3, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

When I read the heading for this article, my initial reaction was that Obama was stepping on Bill Clinton's deal with a Canadian to setup uranium mining deals with one of the old soviet bloc countries Ukraine. That was a deal Bill Clinton as an ex-president helped the Canadian businessman gain. He went to Ukraine and used his name and power recognition to make deals for businesses in Canada.

Hillary has just turned out to be a cry baby. She cries foul for everything including when Obama farts even though her own actions stinks far more.

She is the biggest flip flopper the democratic party has ever seen, next to John Kerry. She flip flopped on drivers license for illegals, she is flip flopping on NAFTA. On top of that she is pandering to the people of Ohio as if she is for anything and everything Ohioans stand for.

Posted by: ChunkyMonkey1 | March 3, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

I think the critical part of this story is not so much what the candidate's positions are on NAFTA, but instead about Obama's campaign saying one thing in public and another thing behind closed doors. Obama's campaign is largely based on how he will transcend beyond "politics as usual" and will lead instead with hope, honesty and inspiration. Obama claims his strong suit is his ability to unite people with straight talk and exercise good judgment in spite of what is convenient within the realm of political positioning. If Obama's platform is true, this closed door meeting between Obama's top economic advisor Austan Goolsbee and Canadian officials is in direct contradiction with his primary campaign rhetoric. This meeting sounds like the usual political game playing that happens behind the scenes and that is the opposite of how he has presented himself to the American public. Both Obama and Clinton believe in globalization and free trade (both are far from being protectionists). They also agree that NAFTA has not been favorable to certain parts of America, particularly in places like Ohio where thousands of manufacturing jobs have been lost. The Canadian memo has no reason to embellish or misconstrue what was said in the meeting with Goolsbee. The American public and media has been so enthralled with Obama's speeches that they are not realizing that although inspirational, Obama is still a politician and is not always doing what is "right"- he is doing what is convenient. It is worse that something like this would happen in Obama's campaign compared to any other candidate because it seems that his whole campaign is based on his holier than now image.

Posted by: debbsterosu9 | March 3, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

If you love Obama so much, see the transcript of his interaction with a reporter when the reporter wrote a story he didn't like in WaPo's Howard Kurtz posting. That is back when Obama talked to reporters, which doesn't do now.

The Wizard of Oz is hiding behind a lot of smoke and mirrors. There is nothing there.

Posted by: JHRRNMS | March 3, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

JakeD,
What a sore loser you are!
11-0. Shouldn't you get lost by now?
There's more losses coming your way tomorrow.
I have the feeling you're disguising as Mark Penn.Here's one Micro-trend to consider:11-0.

Posted by: ednyo2000 | March 3, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

I think the critical part of this story is not so much what the candidate's positions are on NAFTA, but instead about Obama's campaign saying one thing in public and another thing behind closed doors. Obama's campaign is largely based on how he will transcend beyond "politics as usual" and will lead instead with hope, honesty and inspiration. Obama claims his strong suit is his ability to unite people with straight talk and exercise good judgment in spite of what is convenient within the realm of political positioning. If Obama's platform is true, this closed door meeting between Obama's top economic advisor Austan Goolsbee and Canadian officials is in direct contradiction with his primary campaign rhetoric. This meeting sounds like the usual political game playing that happens behind the scenes and that is the opposite of how he has presented himself to the American public. Both Obama and Clinton believe in globalization and free trade (both are far from being protectionists). They also agree that NAFTA has not been favorable to certain parts of America, particularly in places like Ohio where thousands of manufacturing jobs have been lost. The Canadian memo has no reason to embellish or misconstrue what was said in the meeting with Goolsbee. The American public and media has been so enthralled with Obama's speeches that they are not realizing that although inspirational, Obama is still a politician and is not always doing what is "right"- he is doing what is convenient. It is worse that something like this would happen in Obama's campaign compared to any other candidate because it seems that his whole campaign is based on his holier than now image.

Posted by: debbsterosu9 | March 3, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

I think the critical part of this story is not so much what the candidate's positions are on NAFTA, but instead about Obama's campaign saying one thing in public and another thing behind closed doors. Obama's campaign is largely based on how he will transcend beyond "politics as usual" and will lead instead with hope, honesty and inspiration. Obama claims his strong suit is his ability to unite people with straight talk and exercise good judgment in spite of what is convenient within the realm of political positioning. If Obama's platform is true, this closed door meeting between Obama's top economic advisor Austan Goolsbee and Canadian officials is in direct contradiction with his primary campaign rhetoric. This meeting sounds like the usual political game playing that happens behind the scenes and that is exactly the opposite of how he has presented himself to the American public. Both Obama and Clinton believe in globalization and free trade (both are far from being protectionists). They also agree that NAFTA has not been favorable to certain parts of America, particularly in places like Ohio where thousands of manufacturing jobs have been lost. The Canadian memo has no reason to embellish or misconstrue what was said in the meeting with Goolsbee. The American public and media has been so enthralled with Obama's speeches that they are not realizing that although inspirational, Obama is still a politician and is not always doing what is "right"- he is doing what is convenient. It is worse that something like this would happen in Obama's campaign compared to any other candidate because it seems that his whole campaign is based on his holier than now image.

Posted by: debbsterosu9 | March 3, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton is a lying smear-mongering low-down dirty player and she should be ashamed of herself. She revels in lies and innuendo and little smears. She's got voters convinced that Obama is a muslim terrorist. Keep on buying her lies and you will get just what you've gotten for the past 7 years.

Posted by: mrhamham | March 3, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Does any one posting here realize how sexist this campaign has become. If many of the comments posted here were about BO the cry of racism would be very loud and correct, but since the negativity is against a woman nobody seems to care.
It sounds like many women are noticing finally and speaking up on the issue. BO better clean up his act.

Posted by: kristine_jackson | March 3, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

shoemaiw:

Only God knows "for sure" that Barack HUSSEIN Obama is a devout Christian ; )

Posted by: JakeD | March 3, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Why does Hillary always get a pass when she accuses Obama of doing the very same thing she herself has done - make indirect contact to reassure Canada in the midst of a sincere review and challenge of NAFTA.

This must be the kitchen sink.

Posted by: michael.schmitz | March 3, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

There's a good reason why Ohio voters don't see much difference between Obama and Clinton, and it's because going forward, with NAFTA in place, and producing a substantial amount of existing exports from the USA, (albeit not enough, and with issues around the rules to the agreement, and how they are enforced) they both have said they would seek to alter the agreement.

But the people in Ohio read the news, and can also imagine what Canadians and Mexicans are thinking, which is to say that all this talk about how the NAFTA glass is half-empty has probably ruffled alot of feathers.

And so maybe Obama was trying to privately assuage any hurt feelings, so as to not cause damage to the trading going on now with Canada.

Posted by: ErikW65 | March 3, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Obama's a complete QUESTION MARK. Take away his campaign manager, David Axelrod (the inventor of failed governor Duval Patrick) and there's nothing there.

Obama is the Vanna White of politics. Anyone can project onto him all the lovable attributes they want as long as he mouths Axelrods empty slogans..."We Want Change!..We Want Change!!!...We Can Do It!.. YES WE CAAAAAN!!!"...Sounds more like a Barney TV show than anything else.

Posted by: typhoon99 | March 3, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Goolsbee was interviewed as recently as January 2008 about the Obama economic plan on tax cuts, deficits and trade policies:

http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/01/31/econ_advisors_austan_goolsbee/

Posted by: JakeD | March 3, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

HRC's whining is just so weak...

Maybe Laura Bush should consider running for president with all of her national security experience...?

Posted by: cjroses | March 3, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

DoTheMath:

Goolsbee has been Obama's economic advisor at least since the U.S. Senate campaign in Illinois -- he is (was) the lead economic advisor to the 2008 Obama presidential campaign last year:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/18/business/18leonhardt.html?ex=1334548800&en=7eb5e2553d92a9f4&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

Posted by: JakeD | March 3, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

I wonder why comments from someone other than Obama is supposose to matter so much, especially considering it came in a close door meeting in another country.

Also, here's a reality check, a campaign does heat-up the rhetoric on issues and I think everyone understands that. So the questions I have for Clinton supporters is, is this all you have?

One meeting, which Obama wasn't involved in, where someone tied to him stated the obvious. A campaign blows things out of proportion to what will actually happen.

Please tell me American voters understand that.

Posted by: wade.tomlin | March 3, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

The Barack HUSSEIN Obama campaign has officially denounced AND rejected Austan Goolsbee? Link please.

Posted by: JakeD | March 3, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

SHAME ON YOU, HILLARY CLINTON!!! You are a liar and a con artist!!! Your 2 newest ads are disgusting!!! The truth is...


1. A different Foreign Relations Subcommittee chaired by John Kerry has jurisdiction over Afghanistan. And the full Foreign Relations Committee was the one that held several hearings on the military efforts there.


2. As for being "too busy campaigning" to do their jobs... Clinton and McCain are both using that excuse! McCain was "too busy" to vote on the Economic Stimulus Package. Hillary was "too busy" to vote on Chris Dodd's amendment NOT to grant immunity to the telecomm companies and protect our civil liberties AND "too busy" to turn over her income tax returns (which we all know we will NEVER SEE).


You are such a snake!!! Insinuating that Obama is serving his own interests at our expense while you do more of that than anybody! And NOT defending him as a devout Christian, which you know very well he is!!! You are a lowly, loathsome creature.


Please drop out now before you completely destroy our party!!!

Posted by: shoemiaw | March 3, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

JakeD, you're not adding anything of substance to this conversation. Your troll posts come across as entirely xenophobic, which simply biases others against you and your perspective.

Do you want your opinion to count? Then write something considered and enlightening.

Posted by: poortrekker | March 3, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Sure, this is big news, and all of Clinton's allegations and insinuations are true, except that:

Austan Goolsbee was not an emissary from the Obama campaign, but a professor from the University of Chicago, who was not authorized to share any messages from the campaign.

Goolsbee agrees that the memo cited by Clinton is a "clumsy, inaccurate portrayal of the conversation."

Obama has always said in public and in private that he supports free AND FAIR trade. Goolsbee's discussion with the consul general in Chicago, Georges Rioux, did nothing to contradict Obama's support for free AND FAIR trade.

As always, the Clinton campaign misses no opportunity to twist people's words and distort the record.

Posted by: DoTheMath | March 3, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

I think with the campaign heating up, the rhetoric is flying from both sides, Clinton and Obama will be using any and all information to slam each other, true or not. People are amazingly swayed by rumors and I predict it will have a huge impact on the primary voting. We should all be looking at the ISSUES as our standard for vote decisions.

Posted by: rhull | March 3, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Hillary needs to stay in this race until all of these 'hidden bummers' about Barack Obama are flushed out. Is anyone surprised to learn he is not God on Earth? Let's give ourselves time to get the facts and make an informed decision. Do we really want all this stuff to come out after tne nomination and put McCain in the White House? I am an independent and I will not hesitate to vote for McCain should dirty laundry about Obama come out. You are fooling yourselves if you think the Republican party will leave any stone unturned. It was idiocy to have a closed door meeting with the Candaian consulate smack in the middle of the NAFTA debate like he did; why is everyone surprised that it is being questioned?

Posted by: redhiker | March 3, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Let's pursue White Water and Vince Foster just to keep the playing field even. Let's also pursue Bill's impeachment by the United States House of Representatives. Let's pursue why Hillary is not disclosing how she can afford to lend her campaign 5 million dollars! Let's pursue those tax records and her wild spending. Bring it on...Let the pursuit begin. Why wait until after Texas and Ohio?

Posted by: Debmood | March 3, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse


Last week another major paper stated that the Clinton campaign was going to throw everything but the kitchen sink at Obama.

With both this interview with the press, and all the new 'attack' ad, it now seems that not only are we seeing the kitchen sink but the 'gunk' from the 'trap' of its plumbing.....

And, all of this shows how committed Senator Clinton is to make certain that the Democrats retake the White House & a WORKING majority in the Congress.

Once again, in my opinion, Senator Clinton shows that she will say and do anything to get what she has felt entitled to.

If she is such a great candidate, where is all her papers from her White House tenure, the tax returns?

As Dee Dee Meyers a former Senator Clinton staffer while she was in the White House said Saturday on the Tim Russert show, she had experienced how 'papers' has a way of going in many different directions when released. And, that Senator Clinton should release her tax returns.

Her greatest supporter in Ohio, Govenor Strickland won the office of govenor by smearing his opponent for NOT releasing his tax returns....

Does this show another instance of "Do as I say, not as I do"????????

Posted by: DariMD | March 3, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

It has become tiresome to hear from people like Jake D and the rest of the Clinton camp that Senator Clinton's political misfortunes are the fault of the press. Is it the fault of the press that Hillary Clinton squandered every advantage that she had going for her? The Clinton name and the power behind it -- the money -- the double digit lead in the polls. Is it the fault of the press that Senator Obama comes across as likable and gives inspirational speeches while Senator Clinton complains about his rhetoric and then gives uninspiring speeches about her 35 years of "experience" herself? Is it the fault of the press that Senator Obama has won 11 contests in a row? Is it the fault of the press that Bill Clinton put his foot in his mouth and gave the election in South Carolina to Obama? Richard Nixon blamed the press for everything too, and you and the other Clinton supporters are beginning to sound a whole lot like him.

Shakespeare wrote it. "The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars but in ourselves that we are underlings."

Posted by: lhummer | March 3, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

"NAFTA-gate" -- I like it -- will that be on the Front Page tomorrow morning at least?

Posted by: JakeD | March 3, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

What are the dates / names of Clinton official involved in that contact?

On February 8, 2008, a senior Obama campaign official, Austan Goolsbee met with the Canadian consul-general in Chicago, Georges Rioux. The AP obtained a 1300-word memo describing the meeting by a Canadian consulate official, Joseph DeMora.

Posted by: JakeD | March 3, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Think about it.
What better way to keep NAFTA in place
than to keep Obama out of office?

Posted by: uniteusnow | March 3, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Hillary is getting a pass,
despite these reports, and history of outsourcing jobs to countries like India.

Campaign raises NAFTA flap; Accusations fly over threats by ...
Owen Sound Sun Times, Canada - Feb 29, 2008
The network also quoted low-level sources saying the Hillary Clinton campaign made indirect contact with the Canadian government in Ottawa to reassure ...

First thoughts: The GOP's disadvantages
MSNBC - Feb 29, 2008
Today's CTV story also repeats the charge -- largely ignored yesterday -- that the "Clinton campaign has made indirect contact with the Canadian government, ...

NAFTA threats simply rehtoric: CTV
Sault Star, Canada - Feb 28, 2008
CTV also quoted low-level sources stating the Clinton campaign made indirect contact with the Canadian government to reassure Ottawa about her support of ...

Posted by: uniteusnow | March 3, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

To anyone other than steveboyington:

Why does she HAVE TO get out of the race anytime before he gets 2,025 delegates?

Posted by: JakeD | March 3, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

You think it's "shrill" to challenge reporters to pursue the issue more aggressively? She basically told the truth:

"I would ask you to look at that story, substitute my name for Senator Obama," Clinton said. "If some of my advisers had been having private meetings with foreign governments and basically saying ignore what I'm saying because it's only political rhetoric . . . I think it raises serious questions."

Posted by: JakeD | March 3, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

When will Hillary learn that whenever Shrillary has surfaced, her support has sunk?

Posted by: steveboyington | March 3, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD | March 3, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

MAB2:

Because the American press is solidly behind Barack HUSSEIN Obama (they put it on a "blog" rather than the front page to make it look like they are unbiased ; )

Did you see the SNL skit with gushing questions for Obama?

Posted by: JakeD | March 3, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

This is HUGE news - why isn't it more prominently placed?

We Americans need the truth!

Posted by: MAB2 | March 3, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

woodard3:

By "problem" do you mean "fighting terrorists over there rather than here"? If so, YES, I still want to be part of that "problem" -- next question?

Posted by: JakeD | March 3, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

ajtiger92:

The Democratic Convention does not start until the end of August.

blert:

Good catch.

Posted by: JakeD | March 3, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

JakeD,
Enough with the Muslim crap. He is a christian for gods sake. Billary is going down, and she wants to take the whole party with her. She has more baggage than Lois Vitton. the fat lady will be singing on Wed. for sure. Obama may not be perfect, but he is also not part of the problem. Do you still want to be part of the problem?

Posted by: woodard3 | March 3, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

"North Atlantic Free Trade Agreement"???

I think someone has been mixing a few too many NATOs with their NAFTAs.

I know this is a blog, but as a news blog featured on the front page of a major newspaper's website, don't editors proofread these postings?

Posted by: blert | March 3, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

And yes...Hillary is picking up a few more pounds and will be singing shortly, not on March 4th or March 5th or March 6th but on Monday March 10th!

Posted by: ajtiger92 | March 3, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

She also said: "As far as I know" Barack HUSSEIN Obama is not Muslim (only God knows for sure ; )

Posted by: JakeD | March 3, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

GO HILLARY DIANE CLINTON!!!

It's not over until the Fat Lady sings, on the Convention floor ; )

Posted by: JakeD | March 3, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

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