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By Michael D. Shear
LOS ANGELES, March 26 -- Sen. John McCain today promised a collaborative foreign policy that seeks the input of allies abroad and contrasts sharply with the go-it-alone approach of the Bush administration.

In a powerfully delivered speech to the World Affairs Council in Los Angeles Wednesday, McCain called himself a "realistic idealist" and outlined a world view that mirrors some Bush administration critics, who say the first task of the next president must be to repair relations around the world.

"Today we are not alone," the Arizona senator said in the speech. "Our great power does not mean we can do whatever we want whenever we want, nor should we assume we have all the wisdom and knowledge necessary to succeed."

Despite McCain's support for the Iraq war, which has helped to deflate the image of President Bush and America across much of the world, the Arizona senator said the U.S. should take a different approach to future conflicts.

In the speech, McCain renewed his call for a "global compact -- a League of Democracies" that would unite the world's free countries against tyranny, disease, and environmental destruction. As he did in Europe last week, he downplayed cowboy diplomacy and stressed cooperation on global warming, torture and trade.

"We need to listen--WE NEED TO LISTEN--to the views and respect the collective will of our democratic allies," McCain said. "When we believe international action is necessary, whether military, economic, or diplomatic, we will try to persuade our friends that we are right. But we, in return, must be willing to be persuaded by them."

Bush's foreign policy approach has moderated significantly in his second term, with greater outreach to European allies and a willingness to strike deals with countries such as North Korea. In essence, McCain suggested he would enbrace Bush's controversial policies on terrorism, Iraq and Afghanistan that he would inherit while at the same time further extending Bush's newfound willingness to meet allies halfway.

At the same time, McCain indicated he would sharply break with Bush's efforts to accomodate Russia, saying he would push to eject it from the Group of Eight club of industrial powers. He also signaled his views on the need to ease global warming and bar torture in interrogations were much more in sync with European allies.

McCain is often portrayed as a global John Wayne who would tread on the world stage with a Navy veteran's swagger and talk tough toward regimes in Iraq, Iran and North Korea -- in the fashion of President Bush.

But his record of foreign policy positions during two decades in the Senate is murkier than that. A skeptic about foreign interventions when he first arrived in Congress, McCain later became a vocal advocate for unilateral action by the United States in Kosovo and the Middle East.

In his early days as a member of Congress, McCain argued against President Ronald Reagan and others in his party for a withdrawal of American troops from Lebanon. But in 1999, more than a decade later, he supported the use of ground troops to stop ethnic cleansing in Kosovo. And his full-throated backing of the Iraq war in 2002 is well-known.

McCain has acknowledged that his foreign policy views were shaped by his family's military service -- his father and grandfather were both Naval officers and McCain endured five years in a Vietnamese prison camp. In the speech, he said those experiences convinced him that war is "wretched beyond all description."

McCain's rhetoric during the past year, as he courted Republican voters in primaries, has often been laced with incendiary language. On Iran, for example, he hinted at an eagerness to take military action, saying the only thing worse than that would be a "nuclear armed Iran."

He once made fun of himself, replacing the lyrics of a Beach Boys song with the words "Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran." Critics pointed to the quip as evidence that he would be a trigger-happy president eager to make Iran the next target of an invasion.

In the speech yesterday, he continued to press his case that the U.S. is now succeeding in Iraq. "Those who argue that our goals in Iraq are unachievable are wrong, just as they were wrong a year ago when they declared the war in Iraq already lost," he said, taking a swipe at his potential Democratic rivals, Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton.

And he once again described the war against Islamic terror as the "transcendent challenge of our time" which requires "an aggressive strategy of confronting and rooting out the terrorists."

But since becoming the presumptive Republican nominee, McCain has rarely used the language of the "neoconservatives" in Washington D.C., who pushed President Bush to adopt a policy of preemptive strikes against foreign enemies.

Instead, McCain has sounded more and more like the foreign policy "realists" who advised Bush's father, former President George H.W. Bush.

In Texas last month, one of those advisers, former Secretary of State James A. Baker, endorsed McCain and described his assessment of the senator's foreign policy.

"John is what I think I am, a principled pragmatist," Baker said at a news conference after McCain spoke to students and professors at Baker's Rice University public policy institute. "He prefers to get things done rather than to insist on ideological purity."

In the speech Wednesday, McCain cited China's emergence as a "central challenge" for America but said the two countries are not destined to be adversaries. He said relations will be based on "periodically shared interests rather than the bedrock of shared values" until China allows political reform.

He called for the exclusion of Russia at G-8 meetings of industrialized nations until that country follows through on political reforms. He said the U.S. must "strongly engage" with friendly governments in Africa, and he pledged to eradicate malaria on that continent. And he reiterated his call for a free trade zone across Latin America, the United States and Canada.

"Relations with our southern neighbors must be governed by mutual respect, not by an imperial impulse or by anti-American demagoguery," he said. "The promise of North, Central, and South American life is too great for that."
Staff researcher Madonna Lebling contributed to this report.

By Washington Post Editors  |  March 26, 2008; 12:21 PM ET
 
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Posted by: siommayters | April 9, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is no different on foreign policies than what President Bubble Boy George Walker Bush is. If elected John McCain will be just like George Walker Bush was and that is a wolf in sheeps clothing meaning he will be totally opposite of what he appears to be. Bush is a Liar and John McCain will be no better and besides his rationality on the Iraq War is just as delusional as the Bubble Boy President George Walker Bush.

Posted by: morriso | March 28, 2008 10:13 AM | Report abuse

We have allies? I knew our government has kept war profiteers fat for over sixty years and been sending money to ideologues in the Middle East over this same period of time, but who knew we had allies?

Posted by: x32792 | March 26, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

We have allies? I knew our government has kept war profiteers fat and sending money to ideologues in the Middle East for over sixty years, but who knew we had allies?

Posted by: x32792 | March 26, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

As Ms. Me updates her combat-zone leadership credentials and Obooma struggles to wright faith-based rongs, I'm concerned equally about Magoo's foreign-policy grounding and views. Dubya's bad enough, however the President is more uninformed than delusional.

Posted by: filoporquequilo | March 26, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

We heard almost the same speech from that current fool in the White House 8 years ago. the republican approach to leadership is tell people what they want to hear, then do what you damn well please to pay off your buddies at the AIE, Halliburton, the Christian radical fundamentalists, and all the other slugs who have sucked on the government's nipple for the last 8 years. What we left with is a weakened military, a bankrupt government, fewer jobs, foreclosed homes, and $4.00/gallon gas. But hey, We got lot's of faith-based initiatives out there that are just gonna work great when Jesus shows up. He's been coming soon, don't ya know, for 2,500 years. Any moment now .... I can hear the trumpet blowing ... nope, that's just another American being mamed by an IED in Iraq. Just where ole Johnboy wants us to be .... forever. He can talk all he wants. Whatever allies we had we just crapped on so the neo-cowards could be happy.

Posted by: pookiecat | March 26, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

But Invading American by the Latino hordes is Ok with McNut. There will not be any thing here worth fighting for if we allow the Invading hordes to turn this Nation into a Cesspool of Crime, Corruption, Misery, Poverty and Cruelly.

McCain's Hispanic Outreach person was a Cabinet member in Mexico's Vicente Fox's government and is openly for reconquest of Southwest USA.

Some of his comments.

"I never knew the border as a limitation; I'd be delighted if all of us could come and go between these two marvelous countries."

"We have recognized that the Mexican population is 100 million in Mexico and 23 million who live in the United States...We are a united nation."

Mexican immigrants "are going to keep one foot in Mexico and are not going to assimilate."

"We are betting that the Mexican population in the United States ...will think Mexico first."

McNut,s reasons for Amnesty
McCain's God,s Children Argument!
Then there is they are all God,s children argument(Another McCain favor) well isn't everyone God,s children? If so then guess McCain is saying everyone and anyone has the right to Invade this Nation, waving their flags, demand their rights, while feasting at the trough of public welfare and Kill, Rape and Rob thousands of American citizens each year!

McCain's Lettuce Argument!
There's the "lettuce" argument -- we'll be paying $50/head (or starving)( McCain really likes this argument) if we don't have illegal aliens working in the fields. As Phil Martin, ag economist at UC Davis shows, the field labor cost in a $1 head of lettuce is about 6 cents. Triple those wages and Americans will do the jobs. (They're not career positions. They're seasonal jobs for young people, starting in the world of work. I have did similarly menial jobs.) And you'll be paying 10% more for lettuce and other produce. Do you spend $1,000/year on produce? OK, you'll pay $100 more.

There are approx. 20 to 30 millions Illegal Aliens in the USA less than 2% work in the fields but 43 % are on Welfare. If you count their Medical cost and Educating their Spawn at a cost of 7 to 10k per year to American Tax payers as Welfare then close to 100% are on Welfare that American poor and middle class pay an average of 20k per year so the rich have a unlimited supply of slave labor and the Democrats the Welfare vote!

The lettuce argument also parallels that for the retention of slavery.

Immigrant Argument!
There's the "everyone's an immigrant except for the 'Native Americans'" argument. Well, the American Indians didn't sprout from the land, they came across the Bering land bridge from Asia. So if the criterion is "You're an immigrant if you had an ancestor who immigrated here," then American Indians are immigrants, too.

In that case, "immigrant" is no longer a useful word, since Everyone's an immigrant.

Stole Southwest Argument!
There's the "the U.S. stole the southwest" argument. Well, the land in dispute was "owned" by Spain for a couple of centuries. Then by Mexico for about 25 years. During these periods, there weren't more than a few thousand Spaniards or Mexicans in the entire territory. It's been owned by the U.S. for about 160 years now, much longer than Mexico's reign. And the U.S. has actually done something with the land, made it habitable for tens of millions. As Robert Kaplan has described, the difference between American and Mexican "twin cities" straddling the border is like night and day, yet the land is obviously the same. It's not the dirt that's important, it's the people. Put another way, if culture didn't matter, Mexico and Central America would be paradise.

Illegal pay taxes Argument!

There's the "illegal aliens pay tons of taxes" argument. Sure, they all pay real estate taxes (in rent) and sales taxes (most states). Those working on the books (typically using stolen Social Security numbers) pay FICA and, perhaps, income taxes. But they're mostly ill-educated and low-skilled and pay very low taxes connected to their working -- in fact, most claim the Earned Income Tax Credit, i.e. negative income tax! If a family with both parents working has two kids in school, that's at least $15k/year just for schooling, way more than the taxes on, say, $35k/year aggregate income.

Robert Rector at the Heritage Foundation has done the systematic accounting on all this. A typical household headed by a low-skilled illegal alien is a net drain of about $20k/year for the rest of us, year after year. (Low-skilled Americans are a similar burden, but they're part of the national family, not gate crashers from other societies.)

Illegal Bad..Amnesty good Argument!

There's the "illegal immigration is bad, but make them citizens and problem solved" argument. Nope. If that were the case, legalizing (i.e. amnestying) the illegal aliens would solve the problem. But they'd still be (on average) low-skilled workers whose burden on the rest of us would continue. In fact, once legal they'd be able to access more public benefits programs, so their cost to the rest of us would actually rise substantially. In short, most of the problems of mass illegal immigration are shared by mass amnestying them.

The flood of immigrants drives wages and living conditions in our central cities toward those of the Third World.

- The influx imposes both sprawl and gridlock on our metropolitan areas.

- Immigrant families needing services overwhelm our schools, taxpayer-funded health care facilities, and other public agencies.

- Those requiring services don't assimilate and, instead, expect to be served in their native languages.

- American civic culture frays as each ethnic group establishes its own grievance lobby and pushes for preferences.

- Communicable diseases such as tuberculosis (new, drug-resistant strains) return.

- Shortages of water and other resources loom, especially in immigration-blitzed Southwest.

Most that come across our open borders come from countries where, Crime, Corruption, Poverty, Misery, Anti-education, and hate for Americans has existed for centuries and is normal. Should anyone be surprised they bring those same family values across the border with them?

Posted by: american1 | March 26, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

I would totally support the idea of excluding Russia from Club of 8 industrial powers unless Russia reforms itself to be similar to 7 industrial powers in terms of principles their countries are founded upon.

Posted by: at | March 26, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse


Maddogg, please sit down and try to remain calm, the guys in the white coats will be there shortly.


Posted by: JackGallagher | March 26, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Yeah! we're going to have to ask China to produce the components used in military E-machines before America can engage the People's Republic of China in war. Of course all China has to do is to call in the debt the USA owes the People's Republic! That will bankrupt us. Full Ahead McGoo!

Posted by: sperrico | March 26, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Who would we betray? Well, the people who asked us to invade... George Bush, the neocons, and AIPAC.

Posted by: steveboyington | March 26, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

The operation to restore central authority in Basra will succeed, providing the new Iraqi army with much needed credibility and allowing us to withdraw more troops. If Sadr wants to have it out as a result, bring it on, better now than closer to November.

Posted by: edbyronadams | March 26, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

John McCain being President we will have no worries over the vast Naval, Air, and Armed Forces of al-Qeada and their radical islamist extremists friends.

If you thought that al-Qeada and friends was just a bunch of two-bit thugs, holding the US military in total and complete abeyance, you had better think again.

The Naval Forces of al-Qeada have appromimately 3,500 warships including 25 aircraft carriers and 25 guided missle crusiers. Their Air Force is comparable to that of the US and their Army consists of approximately 5,000,000 of which 1,000,000 are an advanced trained invasion force. Their military is all volunteer, making one wonder why they have been so successful at recruiting while the US has not.

The scary part though is that our military manufacturing is done in China and Europe that have sole custody of production and availability. The only thing that is done locally in the US, and not in some far off land as some would like us to believe, is the planning by the al-Qeada Forces.

John McCain will be more than able to deal with this once he is sworn in. John knows which side his bread is buttered on. He was after all on the committees overseeing US security while all this has been going on.

Posted by: Maddogg | March 26, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse


I haven't had a chance to read Senator McCain's Foreign Policy initiatives, but I sure hope Joe Lieberman helped him out on some of the finer points.


Posted by: JackGallagher | March 26, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

In my mind, McCain has no business lecturing the American people on their "moral responsibility" in Iraq. The day that he fulfills his "moral responsibility" to admit that the Iraq War was a mistake, I will start listening to him again.

Posted by: maggots | March 26, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Ahhh, "Animosity"!

Such Sweeeeet Music! ;-D

Posted by: rat-the | March 26, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

gdavis4-Epithets are a bit of an adult level Satire-Yes.

It is Animosity, that is the cry of the Wounded loser, and Sarcasm that is the result of a weak mind!

No Sarcasm intended, just trying Very, very hard to get you pertinent info, for your edification!

Really! ;~)

Posted by: rat-the | March 26, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Um, rat-the, how about posting your comments on the Teen Life thread and leaving the serious issues to the voting, tax-paying adults?

Put that cell phone away kid, you know texting is not allowed in class.

Posted by: bcrnrobinson | March 26, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

rat-the

Is the name calling an example of your grown up adult behavior?

Posted by: gdavis4 | March 26, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

the current DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE is knee deep in IRAN CONTRA CO DEFENDANT friendships....


CRONYism.

"John Michael McConnell, the retired vice admiral slated to become America's new top spy, [has some] longtime associations [which] may cause him headaches during Senate confirmation hearings," Newsweek.com notes."One such tie is with another former Navy admiral, John Poindexter, the IRAN CONTRA DEFENDANT, convicted of multiple felons, and pardoned by the current president by electoral frauds' father.....George H.W. Bush, figure who started the controversial 'Total Information Awareness' program at the Pentagon in 2002."

On February 13, 2002, Americans were warned that our nation was facing the threat of danger to homeland security. Three hours later it happened, but nobody told America.

That day, John M. Poindexter was appointed Director of the Pentagon's Information Awareness Office.


Meet America's New Big Brother

Who's John Poindexter?
A retired Navy Admiral, John Poindexter lost his job as National Security Adviser under Ronald Reagan, and was convicted of conspiracy, lying to Congress, defrauding the government, and destroying evidence in the Iran Contra scandal. [1]

What's the Information Awareness Office (IAO)?

It's a new office created by the Pentagon agency DARPA after 9/11 to gather intelligence through electronic sources like the internet, phone, and fax lines.
Why did John Poindexter get the job?
He was the Vice President of Syntek Technologies, a government contractor.

Syntek and Poindexter worked for years with DARPA to develop Genoa, a surveillance device that's a combination cutting-edge search engine, sophisticated information harvesting program", and a "peer-to-peer" file sharing system. Kind of a military-grade Google/Napster for use in instant analysis of electronic data.

What was Iran-Contra all about?

Iran was holding American hostages. President Reagan said we would not negotiate with terrorists. At the same time, the CIA wanted to support a rebel army in the overthrow of the Nicaraguan government. Congress said no.

So John Poindexter, along with Oliver North and many others, went behind President Reagan's back (supposedly) and sold weapons to the Iranians (illegally), then took the money they made and funneled it to the brutal "Contra" army that they built in Central America (also illegally). See [1]

Read some of the Ollie North / John Poindexter emails that they unsuccessfully tried to destroy
From CNN Interactive

John Poindexter isn't the only Iran-Contra conspirator to be appointed to a high-level position.

More Iran-Contra figures who now hold top government posts....there are six [6] in the WHITEHOUSE....former felons...conspiracists. OH MY !!!!

Why didn't I hear about his appointment on the news?

Very few newspapers and virtually no TV stations announced Poindexter's appointment. Apparently they didn't consider it "newsworthy".


whyzat ????


you only cover problems that the COPORATOCRACY wants you to ????


do you take all of your news feeds from Bill Gates and Rupert Murdoch ????


ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


.

Posted by: a_bigone | March 26, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Uh-huh, McCain is also saying he's afraid there will be a civil war if we pull out of Iraq. Surprise! They are embarking on one as I write this, thanks to Maliki's inopportune "elective assault" on the militias. All it takes is for Sadr to lose his patience and Iraq will be in a fullblown civil war. Ya think?!

Maliki is an idiot for stirring up the s**t at this juncture. But at least he's showing up McCain as an equal idiot if McCain thinks civil war is something that we MIGHT have to deal with in the FUTURE.

Posted by: laboo | March 26, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Zionochristian Jihadism:

McCain Says U.S. Has 'Moral Responsibility' in Iraq

By JOHN HOLUSHA
NYT
Published: March 26, 2008

Senator John McCain made his case for continuing the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, saying on Wednesday that those countries are at the core of a region extending from the Middle East to Southeast Asia.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/26/us/politics/26cnd-mccain.html?hp

MORAL RESPONSIBILITY--

???

What kind of a satanist is Cain, anyway?

Posted by: lichtme | March 26, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

"We need to listen--WE NEED TO LISTEN-"

Gee, do Democratic speeches ever rate the ALL CAPS treatment?


"global John Wayne who would tread on the world stage with a Navy veteran's swagger and talk tough"

I don't know of critics who have mentioned the Navy, John Wayne, or swaggering. Can you name one?

However, there is some concern that McCain would start a new war with Iran and not leave Iraq, ever. This bizarre lefty criticism is based on the fact that these are his stated policies.


"He once made fun of himself, replacing the lyrics of a Beach Boys song with the words "Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran.""

Yes, he must have been joking. Because bombing Iran, along with $20/ gallon gas and thousands more dead, is teh funny.

"McCain has rarely used the language of the "neoconservatives"..."

Yes, rarely. Except when he, you know, opens his mouth and speaks. And is quoted by you. In the same article.


Self-contradictory, groaningly adulatory, dismissive of critics via straw men, and sourced deep in the GOP's orifice (who exactly did we expect Jim Baker to endorse?).

All in all, a nice one from Shear for the McCain hagiography scrapbooks.

Posted by: HeavyJ | March 26, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Yet another republican liar in full spin.

Was there a laugh track playing or was the theme to "The Twilight Zone" playing in the background?

Either way, he would make a great spokesperson for... Kool-Aid inc... The soft drink of the reality challenged.

Posted by: BellsBlu2 | March 26, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

JakeD

Obama condemed the remarks but did not condem the pastor. Don't know what litmus test you want him to pass after that. Perhaps we can show every video of every Sunday service at that church and hold Obama to explaining whether he agrees or disagrees but that could run us past next November. But seeing that you are already mocking his name by connecting it to a middle east tyrant leaders name tells me that you lack the objectivity to even argue the issue with any level maturity thats required. Meanwhile how does it make you feel to know that the Bush family has had business ties with the Bin Laden family for years? Care to comment?

Posted by: gdavis4 | March 26, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

should all of you braindead,

corporate rats and treasonists be put in GITMO ??


I think so, how do the rest of you feel about having your country betrayed by the

"It's all about me!" crowd


jail or hanging? what do you think would work best for people like


rat-the ????

or just cut his tail off ????

should the corporations be bailed out for using investment houses for money laundering ????


SEARCH on BUSH, money laundering, union bank, nazi, heroin, BCCI, Silverado

...point blank.


.

Posted by: a_bigone | March 26, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Full Charge Ahead McGoo! Let's bankrupt America and destroy its military. McCain: The Manchurian Candidate.

Posted by: sperrico | March 26, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

LOL! Shouldn't all you Libbies be on an Obasama Thread acting out your roles as "ARISTOCRATS"? ;~)

This is a Thread for well adjusted unified RepubliCANS!

You know, Adults(Of all ages)! :-)

Posted by: rat-the | March 26, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

McCain's speech today, as well-thought out and indicative of change (read - Obamaesque) as it was, does not at all square with what he said at the CPAC several weeks ago. I'm confused, Neocon or pragmatist, conservative ideologue or moderate pragmatist, I'd like to vote for him but I'm still smarting over my 2000 vote for W., who at the time struck the same tone and whose actions since make me sick to my stomach. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me!

Would someone PLEASE show me the real John McCain?

Posted by: bcrnrobinson | March 26, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

I think John McCain thinks Iraq and the Middle East is like a game of Parker Brother's RISK. It is not. There are thousands of lives at stake and the damage done to date can't be reversed with a throw of the dice. He's better than Bush on foreign policy (heck, who isn't these days?) but he's still too eager to turn to the military complex to solve problems.

Posted by: wpreader2007 | March 26, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Just more Republican feelgood blathering without any real substance. Can be summed up by; "We'll just keep doing what we have kept doing until it completely breaks down." I call it McPolicy, and it has about the same relation to serious diplomacy as Chicken McNuggets have to chicken. His roll call votes show us he has a lot in common with both Bush and Clinton--a string of foreign policy failures that stretch back for decades. Another militant globalist whose interests lie more with big money than his constituency. Total rubbish, even by diplomatic standards.

Posted by: bong_jamesbong2001 | March 26, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

McCain's speech today, as well-thought out and indicative of change (read - Obamaesque) as it was, does not at all square with what he said at the CPAC several weeks ago. Would someone PLEASE show me the real John McCain?

Posted by: bcrnrobinson | March 26, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

maddog-Before you knock a Naval Aviator for getting "Shot Down", take a "Run" at a group of people firing pistols at yourself!

Maddog? More like wussy sick puppy!

Oh, BTW-You can run at them with a Gun of your own, you just can't use it, until you get there! ;~)

Posted by: rat-the | March 26, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

These are nice words, but the man still has zero credibility on foreign policy.

He either doesn't know the Shiite militia from Al Qaida or (worse) is perpetrating more of the same public manipulation/disinformation that Bush did to get us into Iraq. He asserts without any suporting evidence that if we left Iraq Al Qaida would take over, when no serious military analyst thinks that's anything but ludicrous. AQ is less than 10% of the insurgency, and has little (and declining) support among the civilian population.

He voted for this war in the first place, without reading the NIE, which pointed out lots of doubts about the WMD bs that Bush was trying to sell. He's no more qualified than Hillary on Commander in Chief questions.

Before that, (he proudly boasts this) he drank his way through Annapolis and finished 894th out of 899 midshipmen there. Not exactly a roaring recommendation of his wits or military knowledge.

I admire his courage in living through the hell of the Hanoi Hilton, but it's not like they were running a War College tapping out morse code through the concrete walls there. It doesn't confer an ounce of credibility onto him in terms of strategic knowledge. Bravery is a wonderful quality, but it does not equal wisdom.

Posted by: B2O2 | March 26, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

So McCain is worried about a civil war. What the heck does he think has been going on since the Shrub's "Mission Accomplished" fiasco? It's been a combination of civil war and ethnic cleansing. We need to get out before we spend any more lives and treasure draining our society of needed resources to enrich Blackwater, Halliburton, CACI, and KBR.

Posted by: bizecology | March 26, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

I don't believe one word he said. He will be another Bush and go it alone and lose. This is all electioneering.

Posted by: truth1 | March 26, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

The problemS with McCAIN as president are:
1. Never ending war in Iraq trying to solve 5000 yr old ethnic conflict with USA troops will never work.
2. Pakistan has put the USA on notice "there is a new sheriff in town" McCain wants to chase Bin Laden to the gates of hell that would be Pakistan,there's trouble.
3. Attacking Iran and invading Pakistan 2 more Muslim countries will cause a violent backlash against Western interests from militants who welcome death as key to "paridise".
4. McCain wants to redo the VietNam war and win it this time with honor and victory in a Iraq which the Bush-Cheney regime has delivered to Iran. The president of Iran is widely welcomed publicly ,Bush & Cheney have to sneak into Iraq and hide out at military bases under heavy guard I guess afraid of being showered with rose petals as they predicted. That says it all as Iraq flares up again under another ethnic faction we are suppose to police this country for 100 years is he out of touch with reality.
4. McCain admits to knowing little about the economy ,as happened to Bush the GOP will insert a deregulating,pro corporate welfare to fill the void, completing the transfer of wealth to the upper class making us a "banana republic'.
5. MCcAIN graduated at near bottom of his class, he is too old,slow witted with obvious muddled thinking who would project the image of a tired old war hawk ready to use military power to exert our will over the world.

Posted by: rebco | March 26, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Should the electoral college be split up proportionally, like the Democratic delegates?

http://think.mtv.com/044FDFFFF0098A06900080098DD83/User/Blog/BlogPostDetail.aspx

Posted by: thecrisis | March 26, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

For all the experience of John McCain he still got shot down over Vietnam.

McCain's biggest challenge if he is elected is to create a coalition to occupy Iraq, since he is telling the American voter no more unilateral wars.

Posted by: Maddogg | March 26, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

I am so sick of being lectured on various morals by these war mongering two faced , adulterous lying thieves . I am going for Nader at least he is an honest Luddite scold .

Posted by: borntoraisehogs | March 26, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse


I can sum up McCain's foreign policy in 20 words:

WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR OIL WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR TORTURE WAR OCCUPATION WAR OIL.

No, thanks. I'm not interested in his delusional "100-Year-War in Iraq" or his "Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb" Iran and starting ANOTHER WAR we can't win.

Good luck with that in November, Gramps.

Posted by: sequoiaqueneaux | March 26, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

dwerder1-It is not so much your Imagination, as your abilities of perception.

ChimpyII, mouths off all sorts of World Labor Party empty rhetoric in flowery verse. He is a VERY smooth Snake to say the least!

What you are hearing from President McCain, is REAL! :-)

Posted by: rat-the | March 26, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

"We need to listen--WE NEED TO LISTEN--to the views and respect the collective will of our democratic allies,"

START WITH DEMOCRATS IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY

Posted by: xira | March 26, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

McCain is the worst politician we can have.

He loved the US invasion of Vietnam. He loves the US invasion and occupation of Iraq based on lies and deceit.

He is a callous warmonger who will only bring ruin -- assuming Mr Bush has not already crippled us beyond much repair.

Posted by: guru21 | March 26, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Is it my imagination or is McCain starting to sound like Obama?

Posted by: dwerder1 | March 26, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Is this the same John McCain that said last week that it was in Bush's right to torture people although he himself was against torture.

This is a very scary, angry and unstable man.
Not what we want to show the world right now.

Also, I've noticed that he's been having a hard time keeping track of his positions lately, is this due to a heavy schedule or something more. If he is elected and wins 2 terms, he'll be 80 years old when his term is done, is this the fresh change this country needs?

If we elect this man, we deserve what we get from his Presidency. More hatred,division, war and poor economic health.

Posted by: waltk1960 | March 26, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

JeffPA1-C'mon in!

It's a Big Tent!

Oh, BTW, did you know we actually HAVE a WOMAN, of African Descent, as OUR SECRETARY OF STATE? :-)

Of course she, much like Colin Powell before her, was required to actually be QUALIFIED for the Job, not just a "Minority" or a "Woman"! ;~)

Posted by: rat-the | March 26, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Since when is McCain a "realistic idealist"! He's been a trigger tempered, hot headed war hawk for years. Possibly more hard headed than the current occupant of the White House were that even possible! The media see's this freqeuntly and "chooses" to stick its head in the sand and show McCains true character to the American people! I think it's truely become the media "sheep". . .whatever their management "tells them to say and report"! There's very little "real" reporting going on these days. McCain is another "my way or the highway" personality. The very LAST thing this country needs in the White House. Factor in he's perfectly happy sending his message to the Pentagon that he doesn't "care" how long we're in Iraq!! How about you citizens. . . how many more sons, daughters and domestic spending are you willing to give to these little "Napoleans" that want to play war games in Washington !! Even Republicans are scared of McCain. . . he puts on this little "My friends" face to the camera - there's nothing demure about this mans personality and we've had enough of war mongering, hard headed personalities in the White House. We NEED a tue "politician". Someone capable of diplomacy. . .and their names are NOT McCain and NOT Clinton. How unfortunate the news media is so inept in their coverage !

Posted by: dlyn | March 26, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

John,

The US is not succeeding in Iraq, and the longer you pretend we are the more likely is it that we will hurt the military. Not only that, the spending for an occupation in Iraq is a betrayal of what we as Americans are entitled to and have a birthright to here to have a fair deal from our government. The government only exists to serve the citizens, not the other way around. A real conservative or even a liberal thinking person would realize that the citizens should not have to support a state that spends wealth of the people on empire building. Your support for the war is a betrayal of our rights as citizens to have the government working for us rather than the other way around. I hope you lose and lose badly like the war/occupation has gone.

Posted by: paulnolan97 | March 26, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

This is the McCain I hoped would emerge, after his period of sucking up to Bush and the quasi-Fascist conservatives. With Obama sinking fast and Hillary increasingly unacceptable I believe McCain bill be out next president.

Posted by: ravitchn | March 26, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

I wasn't going to vote for McCain, but after watching Hillary lie about being shot at by snipers while visiting Bosnia in the 90's, and watching Barack Husseing Obama lie about not knowing that his pastor for 20 years what a hate mongering racist, I believe I will be voting for Senator McCain.

Posted by: JeffPA1 | March 26, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

McCain claims he doesn't like war!! He loves war!! He talks about generations of war. His family has made war their profession. He never discusses alternative methods or smarter ways to address terrorism. His only solution is WAR!!

A military can only stay strong, if its used sparingly and honorably. Bush, with McCain's approval, has done neither. We have no reason to believe that McCain will be any more reflective on the use of military power once he's President.

Posted by: mhitchons | March 26, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Call me cynical but I'm not trusting anyone endorsed by Bush Sr and Bush Jr

Posted by: vincent_kha | March 26, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

McCain has promised to collaborate with Israel (1st) and....??? I suspect that there may be some countries Israel will not permit McCain to collaborate with and those are the countries which have the most influence in that region. Does little to change things if Nepal, the UK, and Austrailia are the only "other" countries with which McCain has alliances.

Posted by: wmboyd | March 26, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Noble leadership from our next President.

Posted by: qo123 | March 26, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Despite the Foreign Policy experience or experience in general of John McCain and his peers we still had 9-11. And we still went to war based on arrogance and a lie. And we are still stuck in Iraq.

In total looking recent US history, experience has to be a liability and not an asset. Those touting experience on their resume are dooming the nation to years more of failure.

Posted by: Maddogg | March 26, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

The flare just went up for independents.

Posted by: Waffle1 | March 26, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

On the surface, President McCain seems to share a lot with Chimpy.

They both are Fly-boys who's Fathers were parts of the US Military Infrastructure. Both College Grads of Minimalist Efforts(No Mud from Me! I Graduated in Hawaii with a Surfing Minor! :-).

BUT, that is about where the Comparisons fail.

Bushie's Dad, was a Intelligence Expert, McCain's an Admiral.
Bushie, an Ivy League Cheer-Leader, McCain an Annapolis Graduate.
Bushie, a (Then, Never-used,) National Guard Poser of a Jet-Jockey, McCain, a REAL Naval Aviator.
One Fantasized about getting Captured, one nearly, and should have, Died, and was a prisoner of war in Hell for 5.5 YEARS!
One, imagines himself a true Patriot while selling out Middle Class Blue Collar Americans for his Amigos, McCain got put in Hell because he refused to be made a Pawn of Vietnamese Propaganda!

I do not agree with everything McCain has done, BUT, I do believe he will listen to GOOD, SOUND, Well REASONED, Advice, that he WILL NOT appoint Libbie Judges, that as President HE WILL Enforce our Laws-Particularly the Employment Ones requiring VERIFICATION of Eligibility, and that he will honestly try to do the RIGHT things for America along with our Allies! :-)

I believe his good intentions, and this BIG Stick in my Hand, will make him an excellent President!

Now, President McCain; Fetch Mitt!

BANG! Wham-WHAM! BANG!

Remember the Stick now? ;~)

Fetch! Go get 'em!

Oh, and those pesky Dimocrat Posers...

Sic-Em! ;~)

Posted by: rat-the | March 26, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

"Sen. John McCain today promised a collaborative foreign policy that seeks the input of allies abroad and contrasts sharply with the go-it-alone approach of the Bush administration."

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Yes, of course.

That explains the presence of all these neo-cons, Imperialists and PNAC no-hopers on McCain's foreign policy and domestic security campaign staff:

• Henry Kissinger (Darth Vader's evil twin)

• Bill Kristol - neo-con lunatic who co-founded PNAC (among other idiocies).

• Robert Kagan - another neo-con nutcase and co-founder of PNAC (whose wife worked for as a National Security Adviser for Dick Cheney)

• Randy Scheunemann (Like neo-cons Kagan and Kristol also listed as a director of the Project for the New American Century, the architects, promoters and salesmen of the Bush disaster in Iraq).

• Gary Schmitt - another neo-con nitwit and member of PNAC.

• Robert Zoellick - Another neo-con numbskull member of PNAC (and Bush's hand-picked replacement for Wolfowitz at the World Bank).

• Richard Armitage - Former deputy secretary of State (and the traitor who outed Valerie Plame to Booby Novak).

• Eliot Cohen - Neo-con lunatic. Fervent Zionist. Also a founding member of PNAC. In late 2001 said, "After Afghanistan, what? Iraq is the big prize... " In the run-up to the 2003 Invasion of Iraq, he was a member of Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, a group who pressed for an invasion.

McCain = Bush on Geritol.

Posted by: pali2500 | March 26, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Whatever Senator McCain says about not going it alone, his hawkish stance, his efforts to link al-Qaeda and Iran, his insistence to succeed in Iraq--even if it takes 100 years--will preclude collective measures with traditional European allies and others.
As a recent Gallup Poll shows, however, nearly 3 of 10 Clinton supporters and 2 of 10 Obama supporters say they would vote for McCain if their candidate is not nominated for president.
Time for Democrats to figure out whether they really want to pave the way to the White House for McCain.
Read on this,
http://www.reflectivepundit.com/reflectivepundit/2008/03/clinton-and-oba.html

Posted by: bn1123 | March 26, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

My only concerned is that the guy is so old. Who will be his running mate? That's the question, because he might just drop dead at the drop of a hat.

Posted by: wangbang747 | March 26, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Yup, that McCain is as liberal as Obama. He wants to sit down and talk to America's enemies. The head of the RNC just blasted those liberal Democrats for even suggesting such a thing. Helluva way to run a campaign. Republicans have demonstrated that they are completely incompetent when it comes to governing. Now it's leaking through to their campaign.

Posted by: thebobbob | March 26, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

people need to get a grip on reality, it's not about any of our current policies. mccain will invade iran, that simple. hagey will achieve his wish of a world war and armegeddon. i realize there are (insane, stupid) people that do support this but the people on the fence in this election don't. the pass from the press mccain gets is criminal, kinda like the go along with the war drumbeat was before iraq.

you can hate democrats, my thoughts, whatever. that's ok. but do you support invading iran and staying in iraq for your and your children's lifetimes? do you approve endless war? choose wisely.

Posted by: estevegrande | March 26, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

By the way...WcCain himself states that he doesn't know squat about the economy. So his foreign policy experience (or confusion as I would describe it) doesn't mean much to me. I'm pretty sure the Iraq Occupation has been partly to blame for our economic problems so a hundred more years of war is probably not the answer to our economic problems.

Posted by: RightDownTheMiddle | March 26, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse


No No No, McCain.

Before we can negotiate with allies abroad, we have to have some allies abroad.
There are currently none left thanks to your President, and, if you insist on your 100 years+ war, we will never have any.

America can do better than you for President. Thanks for competing.

Next!

Posted by: wardropper | March 26, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Did his speech mention the fact that he's unsure of the difference between Iran, al-qaeda, shiites and sunnis?

Did his speech mention that he was against torture for decades until he flip-flopped a few months ago to appease the blood-thirsty GOP base?

Did his speech mention whether Joe Lieberman was going to be surgically attached to WcCain's hip to keep him from inserting his foot in his mouth?

Did WcCain mention that he couldn't return to the same marketplace he strolled through last year while armed to the teeth since that area is no longer safe?

Did WcCain mention that surge has fallen to pieces lately so it's much tougher to make the case that all is well in Iraq?

Did WcCain mention that no real political progress has been made in Iraq so the surge has essentially failed based on W's own criteris for success?

Did WcCain mention that Osama is not in Iraq, has never been in Iraq, and won't ever be in Iraq?

Did WcCain mention that Afghanistan has fallen to pieces and the Taliban is basically in charge of 60-70% of the country?

Did WcCain mention that in order to follow Osama "to the gates of hell" he'd need to actually go to Pakistan and not Iraq?

Did WcCain mention that we've had enough of war-mongering, incompetent leaders hell bent on breaking our military while bankrupting our country?

Posted by: RightDownTheMiddle | March 26, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

BTW, fishingriver, which church did Obama go to for Easter?

Posted by: JakeD | March 26, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse


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Posted by: wethepeople1 | March 26, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

John McCain's foreign policy stance echoes the ones espoused by Liberal Democrats. This is why many Democrats and Independents may vote for John McCain in November - because even if he is a bonehead on Iraq, he may have the pragmatism to end that conflict in the manner he believes would be best for America while not engaging in any stupid new wars.

Posted by: logicaldoubtofhumansanity | March 26, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

The Democrats' Good News Primary (March 25, 2008)

McCain, Traveling Along a Tightrope (March 24, 2008)

McCain Blows by Public Spending Cap (March 24, 2008)

McCain's Foreign Policy 'Gaffe' (March 20, 2008)

McCain Aide Suspended Over Video Forward (March 20, 2008)

A Terrible Day for John McCain (March 19, 2008)

Fool Me Twice ... (March 19, 2008)
McCain Mixes Up Iraqi Groups (March 19, 2008)

A McCain Gaffe in Jordan (March 18, 2008)

Republicans See Storm Clouds Gathering (March 16, 2008)

AFL-CIO Goes After McCain (March 12, 2008)

McCain's Role in Plane Pact Spotlights Ties to Lobbyists (March 12, 2008)

McCain's Bush Burden (March 7, 2008)

Both Obama And Clinton Hold Edge Over McCain (March 6, 2008)

Democratic Group Launches Anti-McCain Ad (March 5, 2008)

Pinocchios for John McCain (Feb. 29, 2008)

Loans Could Paint McCain Into Corner (Feb. 27, 2008)

Liberal Advocacy Groups Take Aim at McCain (Feb. 26, 2008)

McCain Supporter Disparages Obama (Feb. 26, 2008)

McCain's Univision Connection (Feb. 26, 2008)

McCain says he could lose over war issue (Feb. 26, 2008)

McCain's Bankers Weigh In (Feb. 25, 2008)

With Allegations of Impropriety, the Charges Can Bounce Both Ways (Feb. 25, 2008)

Posted by: JakeD | March 26, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Obviously, McCain has no clue about what the hell is going on around the world. Only a few days after he came back from Iraq -where he was told that "the surge is working"- Iraq has sunk into a de-facto civil war.

How can McCain claim to be a free thinker, when he refuses to acknowledge the genocide carried out by the U.S. in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Posted by: tropicalfolk | March 26, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Dear Mr.

I can do attendance on politics in US of America and my choice is Mr. Mc. Cain. Also I think what US of America must oversee more emigration foreign at country.

Best personal regards
Lic. Jorge Anibal Ferreyra

Posted by: jferreyr | March 26, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Refreshing.

Posted by: roysecondchance | March 26, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

No country that cares about its national security is going to follow Bush III,

whoops

I mean Gramps McCain, the neocon who is still fighting to win Vietnam.

(Seriously: We haven't lost Vietnam yet, but we will if we give in to the Defeatocrats.)

Posted by: lichtme | March 26, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

fishingriver:

No one has said that Barack HUSSEIN Obama was responsible for what his preacher said -- he IS responsible for staying at the church after what his preacher said -- the relevant question is how much of what his preacher said does he agree with.

If you search here, you can find all the "negative" McCain stories too: http://projects.washingtonpost.com/2008-presidential-candidates/

Posted by: JakeD | March 26, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

We've been doing this for the last 100 years and now McCain want's us to do it for the next 100 years.

"We cannot build an enduring peace based on freedom by ourselves,"

Do you believe McCain's Foreign Policy speech to be Idealism or Realism?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=1970

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Posted by: jeffboste | March 26, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Here is the key:

"John is what I think I am, a principled pragmatist," Baker said at a news conference after McCain spoke to students and professors at Baker's Rice University public policy institute. "He prefers to get things done rather than to insist on ideological purity."

He walks the walk, unlike some who admit that all they have is words.

Posted by: edbyronadams | March 26, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Yup, that's what Bush said too.

But then he actually became the President and did whatever he wanted whenever he wanted and openly boasted that the opinions of the American people were irrelevant.

Actually, McCain is already giving us the clues. He promises that America will listen to everyone. But, when McCain personally decides that they are wrong, just as he has personally decided that the American people are wrong on Iraq, he will do whatever he wants whenever he wants and the opinion of the American people will irrelevant because he has personally decided that we are wrong.

P.S. - I still believe that Iranians are Shia and al Qaeda is Sunni, even though McCain may have personally decided that I am wrong.

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Posted by: DEFJAX | March 26, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

All McCain coverage is positive, while all coverage of either Dem candidate is negative. For 12 days straight we read about Obama's preacher on the front page. As if Obama was responsible for what his preacher said.
I challenge anyone reading this to track for a week the articles written here and score whether or not they are psoitive or negative.
Big Media (including the Washington Post) is slanting coverage to favor McCain because McCain has consistently voted to end FCC guidelines that restrict media monopolies. They don't care about what America wants, the media wants McCain. They are going to persistently portray the Dems as negative and ignore John McCain's problems. It is already happening, right now, this article as evidence.

Democracy is dead if America doesn't get even handed coverage about our choices in candidates. Big Media wants McCain becasue it can profit them. Where are the WaPo articles hat point out McCain's lobbyist connections?

Posted by: fishingriver | March 26, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

McCain has always been a pragmatic leader, one who is more of an independent spirit, like myself.. I am neither a Democrat or a Republican and I wish that more people were not beholden to a particular party or ideology. That is what has made Senator McCain a popular leader, one how seeks consensus, witness McCain Feingold and McCain Lieberman, a leader who can and will continue to reach across the aisle to get the job done.

Posted by: mtnmanetje | March 26, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Wow, well said by McCain:
"Our great power does not mean we can do whatever we want whenever we want, nor should we assume we have all the wisdom and knowledge necessary to succeed."

Now, can he change these sobering facts;

Obama vs Clinton vs McCain -
a Web Comparison:

http://newsusa.myfeedportal.com/viewarticle.php?articleid=76

Posted by: davidmwe | March 26, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Go John SIDNEY McCain, all the way to the White House!!!

Posted by: JakeD | March 26, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

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