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On War and the Economy, McCain Provides a Clear Contrast

By Dan Balz
In a pair of policy speeches over the past two days, John McCain has signaled that a general election against either Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton will spark a broad philosophical debate on domestic and international policy. For all the talk about McCain's maverick style and cross-party appeal, his views on two of the biggest issues of the campaign put him sharply at odds with the Democrats.

On Wednesday, in a wide-ranging foreign policy address, McCain once again signaled in forceful terms his sharp differences with Obama and Clinton over the withdrawal of U.S. forces in Iraq. "Those who claim we should withdraw from Iraq in order to fight al-Qaeda more effectively elsewhere are making a dangerous mistake," he said.

On Tuesday, McCain drew a bright line of difference with his potential Democratic rivals over government's role in dealing with the home mortgage and foreclosure crisis, arguing against widespread government intervention to help those who act irresponsibly, whether individual borrowers or giant financial institutions.

McCain's views on the economy are evolving, as his journey from opposing President Bush's 2001 tax cuts to his support for making those cuts permanent demonstrates. By his own testimony, economics is not his strong suit. He has generally looked at the issue through the lens of government spending, primarily pork barrel spending. That is not an economic philosophy.

Based on Tuesday's speech, McCain's economic philosophy reflects the rugged individualism of a western conservative. Risk-takers deserve their rewards, but speculators and manipulators deserve no special help when things suddenly go sour.

"I have always been committed to the principle that it is not the duty of government to bail out and reward those who act irresponsibly, whether they are big banks or small borrowers," he said. "Government assistance to the banking system should be based solely on preventing systemic risk that would endanger the entire financial system and the economy."

He continued, "In our effort to help deserving homeowners, no assistance should be given to speculators. Any assistance for borrowers should be focused solely on homeowners, not people who bought houses for speculative purposes, to rent or as second homes. Any assistance must be temporary and must not reward people who were irresponsible at the expense of those who weren't. I will consider any and all proposals based on their cost and benefits. In this crisis, as in all I may face in the future, I will not allow dogma to override common sense."

In policy terms, McCain is in a far different place than either Obama or Clinton, both of who have called on the federal government to provide billions in assistance to homeowners facing the threat of foreclosure. More broadly, his economic and domestic policies are rooted more deeply in market solutions than are either Clinton's or Obama's.

The divide on national security is even starker. Much of McCain's Wednesday speech focused on building and maintaining around the world. In parts of the speech he sought to put distance between himself and the Bush administration.

"In such a world, where power of all kinds is more widely and evenly distributed, the United States cannot lead by virtue of its power alone," he said, according to a text sent out by his campaign. "We must be strong politically, economically, and militarily. But we must also lead by attracting others to our cause, by demonstrating once again the virtues of freedom and democracy, by defending the rules of international civilized society and by creating the new international institutions necessary to advance the peace and freedoms we cherish."

The most important responsibility of a great power, he said, is to be a good ally. "We cannot build an enduring peace based on freedom by ourselves, and we do not want to. We have to strengthen our global alliances as the core of a new global compact -- a League of Democracies -- that can harness the vast influence of the more than one hundred democratic nations around the world to advance our values and defend our shared interests," he said.

Clinton and Obama no doubt would agree with those sentiments. They have made repairing America's image abroad central to their foreign policy priorities. But the end of McCain's speech left no doubt that the fall election will be fought out over what comes in Iraq.

"Those who argue that our goals in Iraq are unachievable are wrong, just as they were wrong a year ago when they declared the war in Iraq already lost," he said.

He warned against "recklessly" retreating from Iraq, which is how he characterizes the proposals put forward by both the Democratic candidates, saying the United States has "incurred a moral responsibility" to help nurture stability and political reconciliation in Iraq.

"It would be an unconscionable act of betrayal, a stain on our character as a great nation, if we were to walk away from the Iraqi people and consign them to the horrendous violence, ethnic cleansing, and possibly genocide that would follow a reckless, irresponsible, and premature withdrawal," he said. "Our critics say America needs to repair its image in the world. How can they argue at the same time for the morally reprehensible abandonment of our responsibilities in Iraq?"

Long before wrapping up the Republican nomination, McCain made clear that against either Clinton or Obama, he would cast the campaign as a contest between liberalism and conservatism. He has strayed from Republican orthodoxy at times in his career, and has irritated his own party repeatedly by the brashness of his style and his willingness to work with Democrats. But this week has provided renewed evidence that the general election will offer Americans a clear contrast in governing philosophies.

By Web Politics Editor  |  March 26, 2008; 12:27 PM ET
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Mc Cain's philosophy about speculators having to pay for their mistakes and not be bailed out is a must for the survival of this economy.

The outlook of state interventionism can only lead to more chaos in the future. This outlook is part of both democrat contenders, and as well the outlook of the current Fed - which intervened to bail out Bear Stearns - instead of just letting go under.

Other big institutions are likely to fail in the mid future, and the Fed and all the American People are now on the hook to bail them as well. This interventionism may precipitate further a financial crisis instead of stemming it.

People at large do not yet realize the immensity of the crisis that is to unfold. Recall in particular the 40 Trillion medicate liability. That is hit the economy in 9 years.

Only a philosophy of economic restraint, with incentives rewarding good behavior, at all levels, can address the tsunami to come.

Posted by: saaackkk | March 27, 2008 8:15 AM | Report abuse

I do not agree with John McCain's foreign policies at all. U.S. should not use any ways to intervene in other countries internal affair. U.S. should use human rights, democracy, and other excuses to intervene in other countries' internal affairs. America should not go imperialism. Pre empty strike against another nation is wrong. U.S.A. caused a mess in Iraq and Americans can not just leave. It is immoral to leave Iraq without creating a normal functional country for the people.

As for economy, the free market principles are good for generating economic growth. But without some government created redistribution of wealth, the rich and poor gap will grow bigger and bigger. Eventually it could affect the economic growth itself. I could benefit thousands of dollars from McCain's tax cuts a year. But I am open to consider and accept Obama's or Clinton's economic plans calling for more re-distribution of wealth.

McCain has now clearly stated his positions. Maybe it is time for Obama and Clinton to clearly state his policy positions.

What are their economic positions? Do they support pre empty strike against another country? For instance, Iran might make nuclear weapons in the future and it might threat U.S.A. in future, should U.S. strike first against Iran? China or Russia might challenge U.S. in the future, should U.S. start another cold war to stop their rising? Should U.S. use human rights, democracies as excuses to intervene in other countries internal affairs (almost all politicians in the west countries would say yes)?

Obama liked to talk about changes. It is time for him to give a clear vision where he wants to lead U.S.A. McCain is giving a clear vision. It is time for Clinton and Obama to do the same.

Posted by: tgwei | March 27, 2008 3:46 AM | Report abuse


rasgrand.

Mr. Obama has had alot of time TWENTY YEARS to think about what his "uncle" said. He never once corrected him. Never once stood up and told him he was wrong. Never once did Obama take his "both sides" and bring anyone to the middle to find "common ground".

Mr. Obama is a total fake who uses everyone around himself and even himself and his bi-racial being to USE other people to get where he wants to go.

I don't care if he is purple. He is phony. Not true to himself or his grandmother or his mother - or even his crazy uncle. He's such a fence sitting, coniving safe and total politician - so ego maniac to be greater than MLK while using his voice and greatness to get where he wants to go after doing NOTHING for ANYONE but HIMSELF.

No. I have no problem whatsoever voting for Mr. McCain. He will be well controlled by the Democrats in the House and Senate. Has always been rather a moderate and a maverick. He is much more honest and noble a man than Mr. Obama. By a million light years more honest.

I have no problem. A long, long family history of Democrats. They from their Irish graves, have no problem with my declaration of support to honesty over hoodwinkin.

None.

GO HILLARY !!!!! She is my first and perfect choice.
She cares and has a loong history and herstory of dong so.

So - pfffft you, rs-notso-grand.

No problem. No care what you think.

Posted by: Thinker | March 27, 2008 1:18 AM | Report abuse

I'm a Republican who voted for Bush and I'll stay home in November. McCain would be worse for this country than Bush has been and I'd rather let the Dems win and maybe the GOP will get the message. GOP - I voted for the lesser of two evils last time but not this time.. buhbye.

Posted by: m_lyda | March 27, 2008 12:43 AM | Report abuse

Hey Thinker,

Are you thinking about volunteering to go to McBush's 100 years war in Iraq. Why wait till he gets elected since you are heartily supporting him now then you go on ahead and sign up for Iraq. Your racist rants against Senator Obama are exposing your true colors. A real thinker would never be so shamefully loud, racially obnoxious and so obviously vindictive. I respect the fact that Obama has alluded to the fact that he had in the past adopted Pastor Wright as a member of his family, 'uncle'. Why would Obama divorce a mostly decent family member over the fact that he or she is a fierce critic of our domestic, foreign policies and made some unfair and biased remarks taken out of context but fully denounced and out rightly rejected by Obama? Whoever thinks that they are blameless and perfect in every aspect may go ahead and heap some blame on Senator Obama, throw your blame stones but watch out for your blameless glass house. Some who have posted comments here were most likely unmoved by Obama's campaign and was looking for something more to hold on to besides the false Muslim and unpatriotic claims that were being file against him all over the internet. Be honest, regardless of the Rev. Wright videos you were not going to support him anyway. When Senator Obama is the nominee and certain traitorous, fake and/or maybe even closet racists Democrats go out and vote for somebody else in the general election then they should do like the old Democrats of the 60s who switched after President L. B. Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act, good riddance to those sour turncoats and old confederated racist losers. God willing, Senator Obama will win it all.

Posted by: rasgrand | March 27, 2008 12:43 AM | Report abuse

McCain would only engage the Treasury to create a bailout if there was systemic risk to the system. What advisor gave him that term. That Navy flyboy wouldn't recognize system risk to the world's financial markets if they evolved teeth as bite him in the ass. His wife does money and John couldn't balances the family checkbook. John does what Senators do...write some legislation and talk in an obtuse manner within the club. He would not recognize a financial crisis because he has no expertise there because it doesn't interest him. That's not an indictment, it just the truth to which he has already admitted many times. If that'ss okay with you , it okay with you....it isn't okay with me.

Posted by: soonipi6 | March 27, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

I don't think America can take 4 more years of government by Right-wingers like Bush-Cheney et al...and judging by this speech McCain is even farther to the Right than they are.

I do agree with him that we have a moral obligation to the Iraqi people, but they are the only ones who can bring peace to their nation and we cannot, and should not stay there indefinitely.

Just as in Vietnam, we can send in the troops and pacify an area, but the moment we leave the insurgents come back. Short of deploying 3 or 4 million troops there long-term we can't possibly "win" that war as long as there are so many armed insurgents who want us out.

Winning hearts and minds is difficult when you don't even know who the enemy is, and much of the populace is terrified to even be seen with an American. The guy who patrols with you during the day is likely to be shooting at you that night. This situation has an awfully familiar ring to it.

Posted by: meand2 | March 27, 2008 12:17 AM | Report abuse

Quote: Remember the future and pass the past test or Fail the past test and forget the future.

If the Mahdi Militia and/or Badr Brigade ever gets as strong as Lebanon's Hezbollah Militia we may have to do some tough negotiations or resort to fighting a Fallujah ten times stronger. But with McCain be ready for the rain of pain. He seems ready to be a very bossy and forcefully stubborn commander in chief. If we were to get engaged militarily with Iran we may open up a hornet's nest that will seek to swarm us with hornets in every direction. I doubt that McBush would stand for any Vietnam Style withdrawal from Iraq, full speed ahead and stay that course, however disastrous.

Posted by: rasgrand | March 27, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse


GO SENATOR McCAIN !!!

TAKE OBAMA DOWN !!!!

HE HAS NO EXPERIENCE !!!

50% OF DEMOCRATS ARE WITH YOU IF HILLARY ISN'T YOUR OPPONENT !!!

OBAMA IS A DO NOTHING, KNOW NOTHING, WHITE HAIRED LIBERALTROLL HUGGING DEMOCRAT - PLUS!!!

HE SAT FOR TWENTY YEARS IN AN AMERICAN DEMONIZING CHURCH FULL OF ANTI AMERICAN, GOD DAMN AMERICA RANTING AND RABID RACISM AGAINST PEOPLE WHO HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT SINCE THE CIVIL WAR.

MR OBAMA USES BLACK PRIDE TO MAKE HIS WAY TO HIS PERSONAL GOALS.

YOU'VE DONE MORE TO PROTECT AND DEFEND THIS COUNTRY THAN OBAMA EVER HAS.

I DO SUPPORT HILLARY ABOVE YOU - BUT I THINK YOU ARE A FAIR AND HONEST MAN.

OBAMA IS FAR, FAR, FAR FROM THAT. HE USES HIS WHITENESS AND HIS BLACKNESS FOR HIS OWN PERSONAL REWARD. UNDESERVED BY RESUME, ACCOMPLISHMENT OR PROGRESS.

HOW DARE HE CALL HIMSELF A PROGRESSIVE - WITH ALL HIS POTENTIAL HE HAS NEVER DONE A THING OF IMPORTANCE.

I WANT TO SEE HIS TRANSCRIPTS -- DON'T YOU?

Posted by: Thinker | March 27, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

McCain is no hero, he NEVER attempted an escape from prison.

He was given an appointment to the NAVAL ACADEMY because of his father, he blew his education there.

McCain testified against the US in prison and again NEVER attempted an escape.

That is reason for DISCHARGE, not hero status.

Heroes of that war are NAMES on a black granite wall in Washington DC and all of us who EARNED our medals in COMBAT are not real heroes compared with those that gave their lives or who DIED trying to escape or who were beaten BUT DID NOT GIVE IN TO TORTURE.

McCain gave in, he should have been dishonorably discharged, but we gave the Admirals son a break.

Heroes die for their convictions and never testify against America.

I am sorry for his wounds, another useless war, but he was a victim of circumstance or he wasn't listening in class to avoid the SAM that many of us avoided dozens of times.

McCain voted for Iraq and that fact, in light of the just released NIE proves we invaded without cause and his experience and judgment, like Hillary are inadequate for president.

Add Charles Keating and economic corruption in the billions and you have no hero, just another greedy politician that abandoned his wife for a very rich woman and power after suffering as a prisoner, a traitorous prisoner at that, of another failed, murderous war.

Posted by: nacirema | March 27, 2008 12:03 AM | Report abuse

McCain is no hero, he NEVER attempted an escape from prison.

He was given an appointment to the NAVAL ACADEMY because of his father, he blew his education there.

McCain testified against the US in prison and again NEVER attempted an escape.

That is reason for DISCHARGE, not hero status.

Heroes of that war are NAMES on a black granite wall in Washington DC and all of us who EARNED our medals in COMBAT are not real heroes compared with those that gave their lives or who DIED trying to escape or who were beaten BUT DID NOT GIVE IN TO TORTURE.

McCain gave in, he should have been dishonorably discharged, but we gave the Admirals son a break.

Heroes die for their convictions and never testify against America.

I am sorry for his wounds, another useless war, but he was a victim of circumstance or he wasn't listening in class to avoid the SAM that many of us avoided dozens of times.

McCain voted for Iraq and that fact, in light of the just released NIE proves we invaded without cause and his experience and judgment, like Hillary are inadequate for president.

Add Charles Keating and economic corruption in the billions and you have no hero, just another greedy politician that abandoned his wife for a very rich woman and power after suffering as a prisoner, a traitorous prisoner at that, of another failed, murderous war.

Posted by: nacirema | March 27, 2008 12:03 AM | Report abuse

Here's a quick overview of his economic policy campaign promises:

1. Continue a $10 billion/month war indefinitely.

2. Provide the 40+ million Americans who have no health insurance $5,000/household for medical expenses.

3. Make the tax cuts permanent.

And you wonder why the dollar is in the tank?

What economic fantasyland is he in?

Posted by: gdeegan | March 26, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

McBush is a crazy beeutch

Posted by: brisbaneharris | March 26, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse

the current DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE is knee deep in IRAN CONTRA CO DEFENDANT friendships....


CRONYism.

"John Michael McConnell, the retired vice admiral slated to become America's new top spy, [has some] longtime associations [which] may cause him headaches during Senate confirmation hearings," Newsweek.com notes."One such tie is with another former Navy admiral, John Poindexter, the IRAN CONTRA DEFENDANT, convicted of multiple felons, and pardoned by the current president by electoral frauds' father.....George H.W. Bush, figure who started the controversial 'Total Information Awareness' program at the Pentagon in 2002."

On February 13, 2002, Americans were warned that our nation was facing the threat of danger to homeland security. Three hours later it happened, but nobody told America.

That day, John M. Poindexter was appointed Director of the Pentagon's Information Awareness Office.


Meet America's New Big Brother

Who's John Poindexter?
A retired Navy Admiral, John Poindexter lost his job as National Security Adviser under Ronald Reagan, and was convicted of conspiracy, lying to Congress, defrauding the government, and destroying evidence in the Iran Contra scandal. [1]

What's the Information Awareness Office (IAO)?

It's a new office created by the Pentagon agency DARPA after 9/11 to gather intelligence through electronic sources like the internet, phone, and fax lines.
Why did John Poindexter get the job?
He was the Vice President of Syntek Technologies, a government contractor.

Syntek and Poindexter worked for years with DARPA to develop Genoa, a surveillance device that's a combination cutting-edge search engine, sophisticated information harvesting program", and a "peer-to-peer" file sharing system. Kind of a military-grade Google/Napster for use in instant analysis of electronic data.

What was Iran-Contra all about?

Iran was holding American hostages. President Reagan said we would not negotiate with terrorists. At the same time, the CIA wanted to support a rebel army in the overthrow of the Nicaraguan government. Congress said no.

So John Poindexter, along with Oliver North and many others, went behind President Reagan's back (supposedly) and sold weapons to the Iranians (illegally), then took the money they made and funneled it to the brutal "Contra" army that they built in Central America (also illegally). See [1]

Read some of the Ollie North / John Poindexter emails that they unsuccessfully tried to destroy
From CNN Interactive

John Poindexter isn't the only Iran-Contra conspirator to be appointed to a high-level position.

More Iran-Contra figures who now hold top government posts....there are six [6] in the WHITEHOUSE....former felons...conspiracists. OH MY !!!!

Why didn't I hear about his appointment on the news?

Very few newspapers and virtually no TV stations announced Poindexter's appointment. Apparently they didn't consider it "newsworthy".


A Clear Picture of Where the Money Is Going,

when John Negroponte, an IRAN CONTRA Defendant and Yale classmate and close confidante' of George W. [ who likes his salaami wet ] Bush, was made the Director of National Intelligence with the ability to excuse any company from being audited by the IRS or having it's books examined or bother reporting revenues....


what companies were excluded?


included within those EXCUSED FROM EXAMINATION, companies were companies that the Whitehouse families profit from? or their families families or CRONYS ????

Halliburton, Bechtel, Carlyle Group, KBR, DynCorp, BLACKWATER


did not have to disclose.

is there any part of this administration that does not scream


___CONFLICT____OF______INTEREST____ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


can we try these thieves and then hang them for each major crime ????


.if convicted of course.

Posted by: a_bigone | March 26, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

God knows McCain is better man than the current white house occupant. I would suggest that those interested in this election google up the senator's bio. There is certainly no big negatives. What I find disturbing though is the thiness of the resume. That he spent five years as a POW is really the only thing which stands out. The balance of his Naval career was not particularly distinguished and his political career not terribly notable although after his poor judgement in the Keating episode was certainly honorable or apparently so. I guess what I'm asking, with some genuine soul searching, is whether, as God Awful as five years as a high profile prisoner of the North Vietnamese was--well where's the beef?

Posted by: bigustom | March 26, 2008 11:14 PM | Report abuse

All of you that support McCain should either enlist in the military or serve up your children. You can then become the fodder of the Warmonger's vision of an endless occupation of Iraq. $500 Billion and counting, flushed down the toilet...

Posted by: shiva7 | March 26, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

All of you that support McCain should either enlist in the military or serve up your children. You can then become the fodder of the Warmonger's vision of an endless occupation of Iraq. $500 Billion and counting flushed down the toilet...

Posted by: shiva7 | March 26, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Very good post, afellow1-your sentiments pretty much mirrow my own!

Posted by: schmetterlingtoo | March 26, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

McCain is trying to show how much like OBAMA he can be, REACHING out to our allies and foes JUST LIKE OBAMA and just what John said was wrong!

McCain hates war? Then read his book and breathe in his stance on Iraq. We are torturing American Soldiers, WHAT????? Threatening our soldiers with death, as in Iraq is torture, especially when most realize we invaded for lies and it we are forcing them to risk their lives for nothing but the rape of Iraq like one third of their oil being stolen and sold on the open market.

Our soldiers are protecting profiteering Americans and corrupt Iraqis stealing more from IRAQ than Saddam did in his lifetime in merely 3 years.

Corruption has stolen more money in IRAQ in 3 years than SADDAM and all his minions.

Corruption is what McCain and Bush are protecting, not freedom and you cannot have democracy in a religious lawed country.

We broke it and we tried to FORCE a fix, like repairing the tire on a car when the problem is a blown engine.

Iraq is not repairable, over 10% OF THE POPULATION IS GONE INCLUDING at least HALF of the MIDDLE CLASS!

Iraqis have to make IRAQ, a country or countries of their choosing because IT IS THEIR COUNTRY, not John McCain's!

We broke Iraq by removing Saddam. Saddam killed fewer civilians than George W. Bush, a fact that McCain cannot understand, JUST LIKE HE COULDN'T understand the 2003 NIE report clearly stating NO REAL VERIFIED evidence of ANYTHING in Iraq that was of any threat to America.

By leaving Iraq, we force Iraqis to make their own nation, nations or not, but it will be their will, their choice, not ours. They are already an Islamic Republic and that means we invaded to make IRAN West.

Posted by: nacirema | March 26, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

2007: the Surge
2008: the Resurge
2009: the new Resurge
2010: the new Resurge extended
2011: the Re-resurge
2012: the brand new Re-resurge
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:
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2099: the Re-rererererereresurge
2100: there are no Iraqis in Iraq anymore, can we finally declare victory?

Posted by: stearm | March 26, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Oh, by the way, in the last ten presidential elections I have never voted Republican.

Posted by: dyend | March 26, 2008 10:27 PM

You sound like an A$$.

You sound like an Obama cultist. (This is why Obama cultist get the smack down so often because you sound like this- yuk)

As we will all die we will know what it is like to come close to death Like Mac. We will not all lose 5 plains like he did.

Oh BTW I have not eaten any of my Nose Candy from the time Jimmy was in the white house.

Posted by: mul | March 26, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

I respect McCain, but I do not agree with his stance especially on the war. I wish he weren't backing Bush on that one.

Does anyone remember news of Iraqi members having gone on like a three week break or so while our American soldiers have been there day in and day out working to help train them? We shouldn't have gone to war like that (I feel bad that Saddam-being a human even as horrible as I heard he was, he was still a human-but I feel bad he had to go out the way he did). It's been far too long. We've lost 4,000 or more crucial members, and every one of those individuals count to our defense. One less person, we are one more weaker and they need to be utilized much more wisely, with more care and consideration. Absolutely. Our people are working very hard. They shouldn't have even been over there. It's long past due for them to come home. Their families have lost crucial members. It is time for them to come home immediately, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

How about some patriotism, and show our fellow Americans that we do have the will to be considerate (oh my the big "C" word) of the fact that they too are human. They get tired, they miss their families, and they'd like to be HOME.

I feel less secure with our defenses being minimized elsewhere when we aren't under direct threat. We can take other serious precautions AND INCREASE OUR AWARENESS or ACT ON OUR AWARENESS while maintaining each of our individual servicemen and women. We need to take them into Consideration, AND use them wisely when they are REALLY needed. I love my fellow Americans beyond their signed contract. They're not toys. They are still human.

Posted by: Obama2008 | March 26, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

John McCain should be at home now, enjoying his golden years with his great-grandchildre, period.

Posted by: shag11 | March 26, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Whats different than Bush? If you had any integrity as a reporter you would be highlighting that McCain is Bush light, what a joke.

Posted by: paulnolan97 | March 26, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Forget about Clinton or Obama.

There's not a politician out there in either party who has proven his mettle, and the unswerving love of his country, like John Sydney McCain III.

To have endured what he did forty years ago for this nation, and to have served a quarter century in the Senate, contrasts sharply to the talk but little action of Barack Obama.

McCain is a living testament to his devotion to duty & service to the American people.

He gave FIVE years of his life in the barbaric Hanoi Hilton. He came closer to death than most of us will ever know. And when many protested the war in Viet Nam, McCain could have easily explained his breaking down & giving the Viet Cong whatever they wanted instead of fighting for a lost cause.

Forty years ago, when McCain returned, he never asked for or received the honour which should have been bestowed on him.

But now it is time for payback. I will proudly give him FOUR years to lead this nation to the best of his ability.

I'll put my trust in McCain to do the right thing. It's the least I can do for him.

Oh, by the way, in the last ten presidential elections I have never voted Republican.

Posted by: dyend | March 26, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

you all saw FRONTLINE about the Occupation of IRAQ,


sold to you as the war on your credibility...


Armitage figured heavily in the lying...

George W. Bush, put a lot of felons into positon, with other felons


as he ran the table on your future.

Mc Cain is a sincere parasite.

.

Posted by: a_bigone | March 26, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

VRWC is out in full force.

My prediction

Nancy in the House
Hillary leading the Senate
Mac in the White House

2012 - Dems elect typical white guy "Even Whatever" from Indiana who - was not for invading Iran from the start.

Posted by: mul | March 26, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Iran-Contra Felons Get Good Jobs from Bush

Via NY Transfer News * All the News That Doesn't Fit

AP - March 13, 2002

Bush Employs Iran-Contra Veterans

by the Association Press

WASHINGTON, March 13 (AP)--In the 1980s it was the biggest scandal of
the Reagan administration, a covert arms-for-hostages overture to
Iran -- more popularly known as "Iran-Contra."

Today, a half-dozen alumni of that episode have found prominent jobs
in the Bush administration.

The most recent is former National Security Adviser John Poindexter,
65. The retired admiral took over a new Pentagon counterterrorism
office last month.

Poindexter was convicted in 1990 on five felony charges of
conspiracy, making false statements to Congress and obstructing
congressional inquiries. He was sentenced to six months in prison,
time he never served.

An appellate court overturned the convictions in 1991, as well as
similar ones against former White House aide Oliver North, the Marine
lieutenant colonel who ran the illegal operation. The court ruled
that their testimony to Congress, for which they had been given
immunity from prosecution, had been improperly used against them.

The Iran-Contra scandal is scarcely mentioned today. But it brought
near political paralysis to the closing days of the Reagan
presidency.

"It involved wrongdoing," said veteran GOP consultant Charles Black.
"People didn't serve the president well, and a lot of them paid a
price for that."

Another former Iran-Contra defendant is Elliott Abrams. He now serves
as Bush's special White House assistant for democracy and human
rights. An assistant secretary of state under Reagan, Abrams pleaded
guilty to withholding information from Congress, then was pardoned by
the first President Bush.

One of the most outspoken Iran-Contra figures is Otto Reich, the
State Department's top official for Latin America, who migrated to
the United States shortly after the 1959 revolution in Cuba. In his
first speech since joining the department in January, Reich said
Tuesday that the United States can speed a democratic transition in
Cuba by "not throwing a lifeline to a failed, corrupt, dictatorial,
murderous regime."

>From 1983 to 1986, Reich led a State Department office accused of a
covert domestic-propaganda effort against Nicaragua's leftist
Sandinista government.

Others given jobs by Bush:

--Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage. Questions linger over
the former Defense Department official's 1986 contacts with Israel on
the Iran arms sales.

--U.N. Ambassador John Negroponte. His service in the 1980s as
ambassador to Honduras, which the U.S.-supported Contra rebels used
as a base, has drawn criticism.

--Budget Director Mitch Daniels. As Reagan's political director in
1986 and 1987, Daniels helped oversee a White House damage-control
effort.

Senate Democrats raised Iran-Contra objections last year,
particularly over the Reich and Negroponte nominations. The
appointments of Abrams, and now Poindexter, drew little open
criticism. Neither post is subject to Senate confirmation.

Posted by: a_bigone | March 26, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

*****I have always been committed to the principle that it is not the duty of government to bail out and reward those who act irresponsibly, whether they are big banks or small borrowers*******

Of course it's not the government's job...that's what rich wives are for.

Posted by: Jerryvov | March 26, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

McCain says," I have always been committed to the principle that it is not the duty of government to bail out and reward those who act irresponsibly, whether they are big banks or small borrowers," he said. "Government assistance to the banking system should be based solely on preventing systemic risk that would endanger the entire financial system and the economy."
Really! What is the Bear Stern fiasco? . Did he oppose that. No. Also can someone remind McCain what his role was in the Kitting five when he was in cahoots with his banker friends. McCain hypocrisy has no limit. Add to that his less than stellar understanding with anything to do with economics, he will be a big time disaster that will be more disastrous than Calvin Coolidge's 'lazes faire' economics . McCain will be Bush Light.

Posted by: ere591 | March 26, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

McCain says," I have always been committed to the principle that it is not the duty of government to bail out and reward those who act irresponsibly, whether they are big banks or small borrowers," he said. "Government assistance to the banking system should be based solely on preventing systemic risk that would endanger the entire financial system and the economy."
Really! What is the Bear Stern fiasco. Did he oppose that. No. Also can someone remind McCain what his role was in the Kitting five when he was in cahoots with his banker friends. McCain hypocrisy has no limit. Add to that his less than stellar understanding anything to do with economics will be a disaster very difficult after Bush, Bush and McCain. McCain will be Bush Light.

Posted by: ere591 | March 26, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Barack and Hillary's negative ratings are growing so high, McCain should waltz into the White House fairly easily now.

Posted by: Phil6 | March 26, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

I am not a Republican, but I do respect John McCain. You have to. Whether you want to admit it or not, he is a hero. McCain was tortured for years by the Vietnamese. At that age, Obama was selling drugs on the street--see his book. Thus, some of these comments are crude and disrespectful. It's like the Obama people discard Hillary as just a First Lady. Well, she was prosecuting Watergate offenders while Obama was still wondering what to do with his life when he was her age. She also was making $300,000 as a top attorney before Bill moved into the governor's mansion. Finally, with McCain, unlike Obama, one won't have to worry what shoe will fall next. Frankly, this Democrat is hoping for a Clinton presidency, and the other two can go out to pasture. If not I will hold my nose and vote for McCain, the lesser of two evils, the lesser of two menances to be unleashed on the world.

Posted by: afellow1 | March 26, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Based on Tuesday's speech, McCain's economic philosophy reflects the rugged individualism of a western conservative. Risk-takers deserve their rewards, but speculators and manipulators deserve no special help when things suddenly go sour.

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Saying it and doing something totally opposite of it ARE TWO DIFFERENT things.

I'm not sure if the Sen. remember, but about two weeks ago, the federal government, on a nice Sunday, doled out up to $30 BILLION to some PRIVATE, FOR PROFIT entities who pay their privately hired executives in the hundreds of millions of dollars over a span of a few years.

Boy, but it comes to trying to help MILLIONS of little guys, nothing but home owners whose calculations were less about profits and risk-managemtn than merely to get a good roof over theirs and their children's head and FAILED,,,, boy, is McCain and the FEDERAL government quick when it comes to OBSERVING THE MARKET ECONOMY.

I wonder why Conservatives and Republicans keep believing such total gibberish nonsense?

When they help the big guys --- very EXTREMELY RICH guys and their private businesses, using public funds to prop them up ---- it is called necessary action to keep the economy going, because if those guys don't receive tens of billions, hundred, the economy and the markets, would suffer.

But when little guys suffer, from EQUALLY BAD DECISIONS (in, yeah, borrowing beyond what they could pay, too, EXACT PROBLEM), the Conservative and the Republican fish out their MARKET ECONOMCI PRINCIPLES of no interference.

I truly wonder how these idiotic minds square such outlandish nonsensical beliefs...

Why if I am the CEO's of Lehmann Brothers, Bear Sterns, Godman Sachs and MARGINS CALLS are made and I can pay, I have the feds coming to my rescue..... But if I am a small time homeowner and I can't make y bank payment, or bad borrowing, the CONSERVATIVES and REPBULICAN say, "Well, you live in America, you participate in the market eonomy... you take risks..."

Why is that?

Posted by: HerLao | March 26, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

After the complete and total idiocy and incompetence of Bush/Cheney, I don't think this country will survive another reactionary crackpot like McCain for a president!

Posted by: squirebass | March 26, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

After the complete and total idiocy and incompetence of Bush/Cheney, I don't think this country will survive another reactionary crackpot like McCain for a president!

Posted by: squirebass | March 26, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

After the complete and total idiocy and incompetence of Bush/Cheney, I don't think this country will survive another reactionary crackpot like McCain for a president!

Posted by: squirebass | March 26, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

A message to McCain.
"Dear Senator McCain, you were tortured by VC. Please don't torture Iraqis to revenge.
You lost in Vietnam war, don't try winning another unwinnable war in Iraq to save your face."

Posted by: scooterlibre | March 26, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Bodyboarding, snowboarding, and now waterboarding.

Great American pastimes, and fun for the whole family.

If McCain gets elected, maybe we'll be able to just walk around tasering anyone we dont like.

Lets just hope noone prank calls the Red Phone, cause McCheney will probably sleep with one finger the Nuke button.

The way I see it, America has 2 choices - get over it's racist history and vote for the black guy, or get ready for WWIII.

Posted by: metcapventures | March 26, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

I believe that if McBush wins, we can expect a revenge bombing on Hanoi.... then on to Iran.......then on to.......

Posted by: seakeys | March 26, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Bailout the banks and corporations, but penalize the homeowners who were tricked by the abusive money lenders and realtors - McCain should talk personally with the good families who lost their homes - maybe he'd think about this situation annew -

McCain is a military man - He thinks if we had stayed another 5, 10, 15 years in Vietnam, we would have won - He's thinking the same with Iraq - 100 years in Iraq, he said - leave the politicians out of it and let the military do it's thing - well, it didn't work in Vietnam, and it won't in Iraq - Wars cost money - With the trillions we have in the deficit, which no one is buying - not the Saudis, not the Europeans, not the Japanese - diplomacy is more effective than war and for the U.S. standing in the world, and cheaper -

Hot Head McCain is what the United States does not need after 8 years of U.S. decline -

Posted by: muslit | March 26, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Hey, davidmoore1972,
Neighbors should not snoop uninvitingly in the private family matters of another neighbor. Your prime minister and his filthy officious underlings overtly interfered in our sovereign primary election. Friends and Allies treat each other with respect, that disrespectful action of your Canadian government was a serious illegal trespass into the personal affairs of our nation. Worse you got the wickedly held gumption because of your proximity to us you can tell us who to vote for, in our national election. Canadian citizens are not allowed to vote or sway our elective processes in anyway. Hopefully, most Canadians don't hold your views or that of your meddlesome Harper government. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS, GET OUT OF OUR POLITICS!!!

Posted by: rasgrand | March 26, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Hey, davidmoore1972,
Neighbors should not snoop uninvitingly in the private family matters of another neighbor. Your prime minister and his filthy officious underlings overtly interfered in our sovereign primary election. Friends and Allies treat each other with respect, that disrespectful action of your Canadian government was a serious illegal trespass into the personal affairs of our nation. Worse you got the wickedly held gumption because of your proximity to us you can tell us who to vote for, in our national election. Canadian citizens are not allowed to vote or sway our elective processes in anyway. Hopefully, most Canadians don't hold your views or that of your meddlesome Harper government. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS, GET OUT OF OUR POLITICS!!!

Posted by: rasgrand | March 26, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

A little History of the Man McCain strives to equal:


Upon his appointment, not election, as president, George W. Bush appoints 6 IRAN-CONTRA defendants, THUGS FOR DRUGS, to his staff, (13) fills the upper levels of the White house and pentagon with senior members of the PNAC a JINSA/AIPAC group of collusionists, (14) including his speech writer, chief advisor, secretary of defense, and vice president. Uses the terrorist attacks of 9-11 (16) to illegally invade and occupy Iraq under the false pretense of imminent threat (15) and reaps $GAZILLIONS$ for Cheney's Halliburton, Rumsfeld's Bechtel, and his own family's Carlyle group.

newsweek article on Bush/Nazi connection

"Bush - Nazi Dealings Continued Until 1951" - Federal Documents

Karl Rove's grandfather was Karl Heinz Roverer, the Gauleiter of Oldenburg. Roverer was Reich-Statthalter---Nazi State Party Chairman---for his region. He was also a partner and senior engineer in the Roverer Sud-Deutche Ingenieurburo A. G. engineering firm, which built the Birkenau death camp,

Posted by: a_bigone | March 26, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

I don't see how McCain can win the general election. Not a good season for the GOP.
barrowfreepress.com

Posted by: benmatheny | March 26, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

actually,

the number of U.S. Soldiers "killed," does not include those that have supposedly commited suicide...


and the British Journal of Medicine, LANCET put the number of


INNOCENT IRAQI's killed at over 600,000 over a year ago along with the John Hopkins Medical school finding of the same number...


that doesn't take into account the innocent civilians killed in DESERT STORM....put at something like 400,000 in 3 days...


that's a MILLION innocent people...


not to mention 40,000 severly injured U.S. of A. soldiers


and 22,000 IRAQ


OCCUPATION VETERANS, who are currently holding the bushCO and CRONY family colonial holdings for George W. Bush and family to profit heavily from that action


while AMERICA's economy hits the skids...


how's that offshore labor and tech pool working for you America's Middle Class ????


.

Posted by: a_bigone | March 26, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse


Chelsea Clinton is just one more reason America will never elect a woman President.

Dumb as a bag of rocks.

Posted by: postlogin | March 26, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse


Chelsea Clinton is just one more reason America will never elect a woman President.

Dumb as a bag of rocks.

Posted by: postlogin | March 26, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse


Chelsea Clinton is just one more reason America will never elect a woman President.

Dumb as a bag of rocks.

Posted by: postlogin | March 26, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

With all of the hoopla involving Barack Obama and his pastor, I think that we are forgetting some of the most basic and profound principles of the constitution, " The Freedom of Speech" and most importantly, "The Separation of Church and State"!
Separation of church and state is the political and legal idea that government and religion should be separate, and not interfere in each other's affairs.
In the United States, separation of church and state is often identified with the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, which states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." The phrase "building a wall of separation between church and state" was written by the U.S. President Thomas Jefferson in a January 1, 1802 letter to the Danbury Baptist Association

Thomas Jefferson says: "Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship...

WOW!... we owe account to NONE OTHER for our faith or our worship!..... WOW!.....that means that we can worship wherever or with whomever we choose!.....according Thomas Jefferson...

We can worship God, Jesus, Allah, Buddah, or Atheism, and it should not interfere or be an issue regarding our political experience and the potential to lead this country....

So why is the media crucifying Barack for being in his church for 20 years and not leaving?....
It's none of their business what Obama does on Sunday's in the church! It is a personal choice (according to the Constitution) that we all have a right to choose to worship or not to worship, at anyplace, with any congregation.....so let's move on!...

Chelsea Clinton was asked by a student yesterday at Butler University about the Monica Lewinsky affair and her family...she promptly answered the student that "it was none of her business!"....good for Chelsea!...she is right...it is personal!...let's move on!

And guess what, Barack's worship is personal as well, so why is Hillary Clinton, and the media condemning his personal choice & place of worship....almost everyday of the week....it is really old news now...let's move on!

SHAME! on Hillary for bringing it up...she should have made the same statement as her daughter... "basically it is none of my business... mr. reporter, this subject is between Mr. Obama, his God and his personal choice"...so why don't we move on!

James Madison says: "no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief; but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinion in matters of religion, and that the same shall in NO WISE DIMINISH, ENLARGE, OR AFFECT THEIR CIVIL CAPACITIES"....do you finally get it Hillary, and the media?...let's move on!

Oh!...by the way....the actual speech that Rev. Jeremiah Wright gave on Sept. 16, 2001 was based on quotes from former Ambassador Edward Peck (Terrorism Advisor to the Reagan Administration) on FOX News...it was MR. PECK who said "that America's chickens had come home to roost!"...and "that America was basically responsible for the damage that was done on 911 because of what we did to others in the world"....in other words...violence begets violence....hate begets hate....what goes around, comes around according to MR. PECK, NOT Rev. Wright!....can we move on please!

We need to stop this crucifiction of Barack Obama and his pastor, based loosely on 30 second soundbytes out of 36 years of his pastorial ministry!.......now Can We Move On........ Please?


Posted by: docdwb | March 26, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

McCain's main weakness is his support for the war. The Dems are bound to play this against him. Also, some solution has to be found on the American health care crisis. It's driving companies out of the USA as health care costs have gone through the roof. As for intervention in the economy, McCain risks being seen as too much of a do little, too much lassez-faire. In this respect, he could get hit with being portrayed just as an extension of Bushes failed economic policies. We will have to see.

Posted by: magnifco1000 | March 26, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

McCain will continue the failed foreign policies of the Bush Disastration. He may be more dangerous than Bush and Cheney.
barrowfreepress.com

Posted by: benmatheny | March 26, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Bush/Cheney Supporters here are some sobering statistics to ponder....

US Soldiers Killed ................ 4,000
US Soldiers Wounded................30,000
Innocent Iraqis Civilians killed...90,000+
Iraqi Homeless/Refugees......4,200,000,000
US Taxpayer dollars wasted.605,000,000,000

Number of Iraqis involved in 9/11/01.... 0

Posted by: logcabin1836 | March 26, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Bush/Cheney Supporters here are some sobering statistics to ponder....

US Soldiers Killed ................ 4,000
US Soldiers Wounded................30,000
Innocent Iraqis Civilians killed...90,000+
Iraqi Homeless/Refugees......4,200,000,000
US Taxpayer dollars wasted.605,000,000,000

Number of Iraqis involved in 9/11/01.... 0

Posted by: logcabin1836 | March 26, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Bush/Cheney Supporters here are some sobering statistics to ponder....

US Soldiers Killed ................ 4,000
US Soldiers Wounded................30,000
Innocent Iraqis Civilians killed...90,000+
Iraqi Homeless/Refugees......4,200,000,000
US Taxpayer dollars wasted.605,000,000,000

Number of Iraqis involved in 9/11/01.... 0

Posted by: logcabin1836 | March 26, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Bush/Cheney Supporters here are some sobering statistics to ponder....

US Soldiers Killed ................ 4,000
US Soldiers Wounded................30,000
Innocent Iraqis Civilians killed...90,000+
Iraqi Homeless/Refugees......4,200,000,000
US Taxpayer dollars wasted.605,000,000,000

Number of Iraqis involved in 9/11/01.... 0

Posted by: logcabin1836 | March 26, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Bush/Cheney Supporters here are some sobering statistics to ponder....

US Soldiers Killed ................ 4,000
US Soldiers Wounded................30,000
Innocent Iraqis Civilians killed...90,000+
Iraqi Homeless/Refugees......4,200,000,000
US Taxpayer dollars wasted.605,000,000,000

Number of Iraqis involved in 9/11/01.... 0

Posted by: logcabin1836 | March 26, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Remember how disastrous the Presidency of Nixon degenerated into after he was voted in by those Confederacy loving ex-Democrats. They failed to realize that the Civil Rights Act was backed by a good amount of Republicans in Congress. The ex-Democrats and the now politically and financially (US taxpayer funded )adept Likud/Kadima Israeli parties were the ones that contributed to the establishment of the traditional ultra conservative and moronic neocon credentials of the Republican Party that Lincoln proudly built. They forgot to take the Clintons along with them. Their war losing Southern Confederate ways has badly infected the Republican Party. Lebanon was supposed to have already capitulated and delivered firmly into the hands of the State of Israel. The Neocons and friends miscalculated as usual, they could never be fully trusted to plan and execute effectively for all contingencies. We can be fully assured of a déjà vu of another Iraq fiasco in Iran, Syria and Lebanon and worse wars on the horizon with a McCain and maybe even a Clinton presidency. I will gladly but sadly sacrifice my life, sons and daughters for a war to protect our homeland, even if any president unjustly leads us there; then there is no choice in a democracy of 50 percent plus one, the 49 percent is defenseless, especially in an ultra partisan environment. Remember, E Pluribus Unum, out of many is one, that's our national motto.

Posted by: rasgrand | March 26, 2008 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Let's not forget who got us into this mess in Iraq in the first place...Bush and his supporters (this includes McCain). Now that we're debating how to get the bus out of the ditch (Iraq), let's not forget who drove that bus into the ditch in the first place....Bush/Cheney/McCain

Posted by: logcabin1836 | March 26, 2008 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Let's not forget who got us into this mess in Iraq in the first place...Bush and his supporters (this includes McCain). Now that we're debating how to get the bus out of the ditch (Iraq), let's not forget who drove that bus into the ditch in the first place....Bush/Cheney/McCain

Posted by: logcabin1836 | March 26, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

"Imagine that you are creating a fabric of human destiny with the object of making men happy in the end... but that it was essential and inevitable to torture to death only one tiny creature... And to found that edifice on its unavenged tears: would you consent to be the architect on those conditions? Tell me, and tell me the truth!" FD

As a canadian whose interest in my strongest and best friend's politics and presidential elections (US) is more then just politcal interest, it effects me financially, it effects my security, it effects the world order, it behooves me to no end that there is even a possibility that our greatest ally, the worlds only super power may submit and pull out of iraq and that this is seen as a "good thing"! Unfortunately for me, my politicians after 911 and before the iraq war did not stand up for and with our greatest ally and biggest trading partner. It scares me when people compare this iraq war to vietnam it is not. The United States gets flak from every other country if they take the fight to the worlds enemies (iraq, afganastan) or if they do not (sudan, darfur), it is a no win situation for your presidents, they are damned if they do and if they don't! That Barrak Hussein Obama is even still in the presidential race and may win scares me even more, there are enough America haters outside your country (which i believe is truely masking their jealousy of your free nation) but to elect one as the most powerful man in the world??

Markets, free markets will deliver the US out of their economical situation they find themselves in not government interferance, this is America pure captialism, pure freedom! So all Mcain need do is allow the entrepreneurs and the markets to adjust themselves, economics is purely cylical in a free market society with highs and lows. Real estate for the astute investor is a great option right now, in fact I am looking at property in Florida as we speak. There has never been a better time to buy. Time in not timing is what makes your market work, buy and hold, solid blue chip companies with real returns and positive cash flow. Be wary of the fast buck, it will burn you everytime (Tech bubble of the late nineties where even i thought i could day trade).

Vote McCain as the only reasonable choice, hussein ooops i mean barrak osama opps obama is an american hatin' left wing nutcase!! and well i won't even go to what i think of hillary.....

your friends up north

Posted by: davidmoore1972 | March 26, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

"Imagine that you are creating a fabric of human destiny with the object of making men happy in the end... but that it was essential and inevitable to torture to death only one tiny creature... And to found that edifice on its unavenged tears: would you consent to be the architect on those conditions? Tell me, and tell me the truth!" FD

As a canadian whose interest in my strongest and best friend's politics and presidential elections (US) is more then just politcal interest, it effects me financially, it effects my security, it effects the world order, it behooves me to no end that there is even a possibility that our greatest ally, the worlds only super power may submit and pull out of iraq and that this is seen as a "good thing"! Unfortunately for me, my politicians after 911 and before the iraq war did not stand up for and with our greatest ally and biggest trading partner. It scares me when people compare this iraq war to vietnam it is not. The United States gets flak from every other country if they take the fight to the worlds enemies (iraq, afganastan) or if they do not (sudan, darfur), it is a no win situation for your presidents, they are damned if they do and if they don't! That Barrak Hussein Obama is even still in the presidential race and may win scares me even more, there are enough America haters outside your country (which i believe is truely masking their jealousy of your free nation) but to elect one as the most powerful man in the world??

Markets, free markets will deliver the US out of their economical situation they find themselves in not government interferance, this is America pure captialism, pure freedom! So all Mcain need do is allow the entrepreneurs and the markets to adjust themselves, economics is purely cylical in a free market society with highs and lows. Real estate for the astute investor is a great option right now, in fact I am looking at property in Florida as we speak. There has never been a better time to buy. Time in not timing is what makes your market work, buy and hold, solid blue chip companies with real returns and positive cash flow. Be wary of the fast buck, it will burn you everytime (Tech bubble of the late nineties where even i thought i could day trade).

Vote McCain as the only reasonable choice, hussein ooops i mean barrak osama opps obama is an american hatin' left wing nutcase!! and well i won't even go to what i think of hillary.....

your friends up north

Posted by: davidmoore1972 | March 26, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

"Imagine that you are creating a fabric of human destiny with the object of making men happy in the end... but that it was essential and inevitable to torture to death only one tiny creature... And to found that edifice on its unavenged tears: would you consent to be the architect on those conditions? Tell me, and tell me the truth!" FD

As a canadian whose interest in my strongest and best friend's politics and presidential elections (US) is more then just politcal interest, it effects me financially, it effects my security, it effects the world order, it behooves me to no end that there is even a possibility that our greatest ally, the worlds only super power may submit and pull out of iraq and that this is seen as a "good thing"! Unfortunately for me, my politicians after 911 and before the iraq war did not stand up for and with our greatest ally and biggest trading partner. It scares me when people compare this iraq war to vietnam it is not. The United States gets flak from every other country if they take the fight to the worlds enemies (iraq, afganastan) or if they do not (sudan, darfur), it is a no win situation for your presidents, they are damned if they do and if they don't! That Barrak Hussein Obama is even still in the presidential race and may win scares me even more, there are enough America haters outside your country (which i believe is truely masking their jealousy of your free nation) but to elect one as the most powerful man in the world??

Markets, free markets will deliver the US out of their economical situation they find themselves in not government interferance, this is America pure captialism, pure freedom! So all Mcain need do is allow the entrepreneurs and the markets to adjust themselves, economics is purely cylical in a free market society with highs and lows. Real estate for the astute investor is a great option right now, in fact I am looking at property in Florida as we speak. There has never been a better time to buy. Time in not timing is what makes your market work, buy and hold, solid blue chip companies with real returns and positive cash flow. Be wary of the fast buck, it will burn you everytime (Tech bubble of the late nineties where even i thought i could day trade).

Vote McCain as the only reasonable choice, hussein ooops i mean barrak osama opps obama is an american hatin' left wing nutcase!! and well i won't even go to what i think of hillary.....

your friends up north

Posted by: davidmoore1972 | March 26, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

"Imagine that you are creating a fabric of human destiny with the object of making men happy in the end... but that it was essential and inevitable to torture to death only one tiny creature... And to found that edifice on its unavenged tears: would you consent to be the architect on those conditions? Tell me, and tell me the truth!" FD

As a canadian whose interest in my strongest and best friend's politics and presidential elections (US) is more then just politcal interest, it effects me financially, it effects my security, it effects the world order, it behooves me to no end that there is even a possibility that our greatest ally, the worlds only super power may submit and pull out of iraq and that this is seen as a "good thing"! Unfortunately for me, my politicians after 911 and before the iraq war did not stand up for and with our greatest ally and biggest trading partner. It scares me when people compare this iraq war to vietnam it is not. The United States gets flak from every other country if they take the fight to the worlds enemies (iraq, afganastan) or if they do not (sudan, darfur), it is a no win situation for your presidents, they are damned if they do and if they don't! That Barrak Hussein Obama is even still in the presidential race and may win scares me even more, there are enough America haters outside your country (which i believe is truely masking their jealousy of your free nation) but to elect one as the most powerful man in the world??

Markets, free markets will deliver the US out of their economical situation they find themselves in not government interferance, this is America pure captialism, pure freedom! So all Mcain need do is allow the entrepreneurs and the markets to adjust themselves, economics is purely cylical in a free market society with highs and lows. Real estate for the astute investor is a great option right now, in fact I am looking at property in Florida as we speak. There has never been a better time to buy. Time in not timing is what makes your market work, buy and hold, solid blue chip companies with real returns and positive cash flow. Be wary of the fast buck, it will burn you everytime (Tech bubble of the late nineties where even i thought i could day trade).

Vote McCain as the only reasonable choice, hussein ooops i mean barrak osama opps obama is an american hatin' left wing nutcase!! and well i won't even go to what i think of hillary.....

your friends up north

Posted by: davidmoore1972 | March 26, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

"Imagine that you are creating a fabric of human destiny with the object of making men happy in the end... but that it was essential and inevitable to torture to death only one tiny creature... And to found that edifice on its unavenged tears: would you consent to be the architect on those conditions? Tell me, and tell me the truth!" FD

As a canadian whose interest in my strongest and best friend's politics and presidential elections (US) is more then just politcal interest, it effects me financially, it effects my security, it effects the world order, it behooves me to no end that there is even a possibility that our greatest ally, the worlds only super power may submit and pull out of iraq and that this is seen as a "good thing"! Unfortunately for me, my politicians after 911 and before the iraq war did not stand up for and with our greatest ally and biggest trading partner. It scares me when people compare this iraq war to vietnam it is not. The United States gets flak from every other country if they take the fight to the worlds enemies (iraq, afganastan) or if they do not (sudan, darfur), it is a no win situation for your presidents, they are damned if they do and if they don't! That Barrak Hussein Obama is even still in the presidential race and may win scares me even more, there are enough America haters outside your country (which i believe is truely masking their jealousy of your free nation) but to elect one as the most powerful man in the world??

Markets, free markets will deliver the US out of their economical situation they find themselves in not government interferance, this is America pure captialism, pure freedom! So all Mcain need do is allow the entrepreneurs and the markets to adjust themselves, economics is purely cylical in a free market society with highs and lows. Real estate for the astute investor is a great option right now, in fact I am looking at property in Florida as we speak. There has never been a better time to buy. Time in not timing is what makes your market work, buy and hold, solid blue chip companies with real returns and positive cash flow. Be wary of the fast buck, it will burn you everytime (Tech bubble of the late nineties where even i thought i could day trade).

Vote McCain as the only reasonable choice, hussein ooops i mean barrak osama opps obama is an american hatin' left wing nutcase!! and well i won't even go to what i think of hillary.....

your friends up north

Posted by: davidmoore1972 | March 26, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

The folly of the Democrats is "change".

People don't want their brand of "change" which means simply that they are not happy being out of power and not having their hands on all the tax money. This is why the media portrays Bush as unpopular -- when in fact, America loves Bush. The Hollywood types used to have a free hand when Bill Clinton was in office because they opened up the Treasury to them.

McCain as Bush 2.0?

Hooray! 8 More Years!

Posted by: jabailo | March 26, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

DON't FORGET THIS, you don't want to trust the outgoing LOSERS....because they're burying landmines in your administration kids...

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THE REPULSIVE SCAMMERS HOPE YOU FORGET THE LAST 8 YEARS AS THE DEMOCRATS DID IN 1992....


DON'T !!!!


As Bill Clinton was about to take office, there were other lingering questions about secret Republican dealings with Saddam Hussein's Iraq during the 1980s. The CIA allegedly had assisted in arranging third-country supplies of sophisticated armaments to Saddam Hussein in his border war with Iran.

President Bush had angrily denounced such charges after they were raised following the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. But a number of witnesses were alleging that the CIA had helped arrange the supplies, including cluster bombs to Iraq through Chile.

In 1992-93, the Democrats were in a strong position to get to the bottom of all these historic questions that had so entangled U.S. foreign policy in the 1980s. The Democrats controlled both houses of Congress as well as the White House. Walsh was furious with Bush's Iran-contra pardons and was considering impaneling a new grand jury to force Bush's testimony. [See Walsh's book, Firewall, for more details.]

Getting answers to these questions also made policy sense, if for no other reason than it was important for the new administration to know where diplomatic mine fields might be hidden in this delicate geopolitical landscape.

Shutting Down

But the Democrats -- led by then-House Speaker Tom Foley and Rep. Lee Hamilton -- chose a very different course. Apparently believing that battling for answers would distract from the domestic policy agenda, such as passage of a universal health care plan, the Democrats chose to shut down all the investigations.

In December 1992, Foley signaled Bush that he would have no problem with the Iran-contra pardons. After the pardons were issued, a few Democrats groused but no hearings were held and no formal explanation was demanded, even though this may have been the first time a president had used his pardon powers to protect himself from possible incrimination.

After the Inauguration, the Clinton administration offered no help to Walsh in arranging declassification of documents that would have aided his investigation. When Bush refused to submit to an interview with Walsh's prosecutors, the Democrats made not a peep about this final move to obstruct the Iran-contra investigation.

Faced with a lack of political support, Walsh decided not to call Bush before a grand jury and shut down his office.

On the 1980 Iran issue, a congressional task force chose to obscure or cover up the new evidence of Republican guilt. Bani-Sadr's letter was misrepresented in the task force's report as mere speculation. Bani-Sadr's detailed account of the interplay inside the Iranian government was simply ignored.

Only those who bothered to dig through the task force report's appendix could find out what the Iranian president had actually said.


Not a single story about Bani-Sadr's letter appeared in major newspapers.

In an odd twist, the task force accepted the testimony about deMarenches's account of Republicans meeting Iranians in Paris as "credible," but then incongruously dismissed it as irrelevant, since it conflicted with Republican denials.

The extraordinary Russian report describing what Soviet intelligence files had shown about the Republican-Iran initiative was simply hidden. There was no serious follow-up with the Russians to determine how solid their intelligence was and how they had obtained the information.

SEARCH ON Russians, October Surprise, Cater, Paris, Robert M. Gates, George H.W. Bush


get to know a little history.


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first things first: shut down halliburton, bechtel, kbr, blackwater, dyncorp's involvement in IRAQ...


conscript the contractors and make them work for GSA at GS scale wages,


as a first step, seperate the thieves from the money....simple eh?

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it's a national security issue. we don't get what we pay for. and I don't remember paying to have IRAQ's infrastructure destroyed so the citizenry couldn't protest the oil theft do you?...


take a bite out of crime, elect someone who's been there before,


and been on the receiving end of this level of dishonesty, and continued dishonesty as evidenced by the continued inference by the media that somehow the Clintons are dishonest and immoral,


when it's the press that are...

The Clintons have held their own, and the nation has prospered...in the midst of media sponsored spin...

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Posted by: a_bigone | March 26, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse


On war and economy, Ariz. senator is in a far different place than either Obama or Clinton.

On truth and common sense, Dan Balz is in a far different place from many Americans.

Even to consider McCain for president after the warmongering vegetables we have inexplicably tolerated for eight years can reflect only terminal masochism or some other kind of death-wish.

Posted by: wardropper | March 26, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

It's unfortunate that there are more than enough ignorant and narrow-minded Americans
who will not only be sucked into the belief that both senator John McCain, knows from where he speaks when talking about how safe "The Green Zone" in Baghdad has become, and sincerely believe Dick Cheney's Bushism Moment when he compared Abraham Linclon and the Civil War to that which is currently taking place in Iraq.
False prophesies breed false Profits/Prophets, and neither Our Real Man Behind the Bush Regime Throne, Dick Cheney,
our Illegally Elected and Presently Irrlevant Leader George W. Bush or their Bush Devotee are definitely all FALSE.

Posted by: jetsfoto | March 26, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

McCain's morality card is years late and thousands of lives late. It is not better to be late than never when human lives are involved. NO to McCain!

Posted by: ghostcommander | March 26, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Obama is afraid to fight with Hillary (he could get hurt). He is afraid to face voters in Florida and Michigan. He is afraid of facing voters in Pennsylvania (the white part). He is afraid of what the repubicans will dig up in the fall.

I AM PROUD THAT HE COULD BE OUR NOMINEE!

Wienee 08

Posted by: lpeter59 | March 26, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

With all of the hoopla involving Barack Obama and his pastor, I think that we are forgetting some of the most basic and profound principles of the constitution, " The Freedom of Speech" and most importantly, "The Separation of Church and State"!
Separation of church and state is the political and legal idea that government and religion should be separate, and not interfere in each other's affairs.
In the United States, separation of church and state is often identified with the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, which states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." The phrase "building a wall of separation between church and state" was written by the U.S. President Thomas Jefferson in a January 1, 1802 letter to the Danbury Baptist Association

Thomas Jefferson says: "Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship...

WOW!... we owe account to NONE OTHER for our faith or our worship!..... WOW!.....that means that we can worship wherever or with whomever we choose!.....according Thomas Jefferson...

We can worship God, Jesus, Allah, Buddah, or Atheism, and it should not interfere or be an issue regarding our political experience and the potential to lead this country....

So why is the media crucifying Barack for being in his church for 20 years and not leaving?....
It's none of their business what Obama does on Sunday's in the church! It is a personal choice (according to the Constitution) that we all have a right to choose to worship or not to worship, at anyplace, with any congregation.....so let's move on!...

Chelsea Clinton was asked by a student yesterday at Butler University about the Monica Lewinsky affair and her family...she promptly answered the student that "it was none of her business!"....good for Chelsea!...she is right...it is personal!...let's move on!

And guess what, Barack's worship is personal as well, so why is Hillary Clinton, and the media condemning his personal choice & place of worship....almost everyday of the week....it is really old news now...let's move on!

SHAME! on Hillary for bringing it up...she should have made the same statement as her daughter... "basically it is none of my business... mr. reporter, this subject is between Mr. Obama, his God and his personal choice"...so why don't we move on!

James Madison says: "no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief; but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinion in matters of religion, and that the same shall in NO WISE DIMINISH, ENLARGE, OR AFFECT THEIR CIVIL CAPACITIES"....do you finally get it Hillary, and the media?...let's move on!

Oh!...by the way....the actual speech that Rev. Jeremiah Wright gave on Sept. 16, 2001 was based on quotes from former Ambassador Edward Peck (Terrorism Advisor to the Reagan Administration) on FOX News...it was MR. PECK who said "that America's chickens had come home to roost!"...and "that America was basically responsible for the damage that was done on 911 because of what we did to others in the world"....in other words...violence begets violence....hate begets hate....what goes around, comes around according to MR. PECK, NOT Rev. Wright!....can we move on please!

We need to stop this crucifiction of Barack Obama and his pastor, based loosely on 30 second soundbytes out of 36 years of his pastorial ministry!.......now Can We Move On........ Please?


Posted by: docdwb | March 26, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Realclearpolitics has McCain with a national lead. I believe the Electoral College picture for him is even rosier.

Posted by: edbyronadams | March 26, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Victory in Iraq is difficult to define because encouraging participatory government in an Arab Muslim country is like grafting a human arm onto a sheep. They simply do not have the cultural foundation necessary to make it work. Therefore, we will be a long time there, but with fewer casualties now and with a promise of fewer shortly down the road, it will look a lot like our extended stay in the Korean peninsula, where eventually the graft took.

It's ugly and demands a great deal of the American public, especially those who serve. There may be a time when it is necessary for us to turn away from the burdens of carrying Pax Americana on our backs, but I don't think it is this time.

Posted by: edbyronadams | March 26, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

This guy doesn't have a chance in November.

Posted by: TALVES | March 26, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

"Those who argue that our goals in Iraq are unachievable are wrong, just as they were wrong a year ago when they declared the war in Iraq already lost,"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The goal being victory but no understanding what victory would be. Thus endless involvement/occupation in a country that mostly hates us being there.

John has delusions that we will win the Vietnam war by winning the Iraq occupation. We can declare anytime that there are no WMDs and no chance that Saddam or Iraq will threaten us. So that is as much victory as we will ever see. The rest is the responsibility of Iraqis.
John also needs to consider that the AQ strategy is to weaken us using fear and attrition (fighting on the wrong front). Is he also going to be a fool for Osama?

Posted by: ricinro85212 | March 26, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Ya want another administration dominated by war?

You want 8,000 dead? 4,000 isn't enough for you? How about some more maimed?

you want America, now generally detested in the world, actively worked against by former allies? Not that is isn't happening now, financially...Asia and London stock exchanges are eating our lunch. Foreign funds started buying out our wealth, until this week they decided it's not even
worth it.

Well, then, let's have McCain, Bush lite.
Disaster #2.

Posted by: whistling | March 26, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

The most unfortunate reality about Senator John McCain is that he's merely the "Wolf
In Sheep's Clothing", pretending to act in
preserving America's withering soverignty globally, while further compromising our United States and the American people. The most pathetic reality is that the average American seems to possess the memory capacity of a gnat, and will only hear the same Hollow words of wisdom and hope which
George W. Bush espoused when he was first illegally appointed as President of the United States in 2000 & 2004.

It's by no means coincidental that Senator Mccain decideed to travel to Iraq when The Real Man (That's debatable) Behind George W. Bush's Throne was galavanting about the Middle East to make sure that his, George W.'s and The Bush Family Dynasty's Illegally Obtained (Translation=Profitting Illegally) assets are being well protected.

At this stage in this blatantly illegal Reign by the Bush/Cheney Regime, the truth
would be refreshing, such as whether or not Blackwater USA is still being illegally employed as the Bush/Cheney Regime's Mercenary Boy scouts, or how much business Halliburton,KBR and the other Corporate Family members are still being given in Iraq and Afghanistan. Senator John McCain is becoming a truly dangerous man to reckon with and hopefully neither VP Dick Cheney, George W., karl Rove or the rest of the Stormtroopers won't be in any position to sabotage November's preseidential elections.

Posted by: jetsfoto | March 26, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

"I look for the strings that make his arms wave, and the hand that makes his mouth move."

Posted by: HoracePManure | March 26, 2008 06:57 PM

Keep looking. Due to his treatment by his Vietnamese captors, Sen. McCain cannot wave his arms himself. He would need string assist if he wanted to accomplish such a feat.

Posted by: edbyronadams | March 26, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

frklynson, rasgrand

you are careful thinkers, much of what you say is right on point (or at least, I agree!).

It seems odd to me that the McCain boards are where a lot of people people seem to put their best ideas. The Clinton Obama thing has gone 'round the bend.

Posted by: shrink2 | March 26, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Meyerson's column barely scratched the surface. McCain has also absurdly claimed that if we left Iraq, Al Qaida would surely take it over, and be more of a threat to us here at home. No serious military analyst thinks that's anything but ridiculous.

Before that it was voting for the Iraq war without even reading the NIE, which told of many doubts about the WMD hoax that Bush was putting over on the country as absolute fact.

Long before that, he was drinking his way through the Naval Academy, and graduating 894th of 899 in his class.

But we should brush all of that aside because he was a POW who went through a five year ordeal in Vietnam. He can say any fantasical thing he wants to, and the press will just ooh and ahh over his "foreign policy expertise". These are the crack journalists who bravely called Bush on all of his lies during the runup to the war, preventing us from going there, remember?

Posted by: B2O2 | March 26, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

If McCain did not throw Bush and Cheney under the straight talk express bus for all the serious internal and external damages they inflicted on our great nation then why should we go after Obama to throw his adopted 'uncle' former pastor under the bus. He has repeatedly and forcefully denounced and rejected Rev. Wrights' controversial words critical to USA policies and other crazy remarks. I wonder why some are so stubbornly and obtusely unforgiving of Obama's reasons for staying with his church and new pastor. I believe that he did not know about some of those inflammatory remarks and the one he did find out about he had confronted Rev. 'uncle' Wright about it to express his displeasure. And if he knew that he had said more controversial provocative remarks, I sincerely believe that he would have stopped going to his church, Barack is a smart politician who probably wanted to gain national office. Barack Obama was, is and will continue to be a strong American patriot who can relate effectively with all Americans and forcefully defend American interest wherever and/or whenever it may be threatened. He is honest, fair-minded and talks to all Americans with love and hope for a stronger future. For a person to deny these facts and support the continued old failed McCain/Bush/Cheney's policies speaks to a loud volume of that person's allegiance to our great country. Time's up for true change. When Senator Obama is the nominee and certain traitorous, fake and/or maybe even closet racists Democrats go out and vote for somebody else in the general election then they should do like the old Democrats of the 60s who switched after President Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act and good riddance to those old racists, this second round purge will be well worth it. Bush and Cheney have already opened up the first salvo towards the beginning of more wars for us all. The Iraq war quagmire has entrapped us, because McCain claims that we can't leave even when the surge has worked according to his own words and we must stay, it will be all two easy to lash out against the perceived Iranian enemy. The sadness will only befall on the future integrity of my beloved nation, because rumors of wars with Iran and others will become a future reality. The draft will be reinstated and the full holy war against the Muslim infidels will have fallen on our lap. Armageddon, as envisioned by the likes of Revs. Hagee and Parsley will definitely be our final and most devastating war on Earth; I hate the ways of the triangulating egotistical Clintons and the Republican selfish party, who are coldheartedly destroying our great nation systematically.

Posted by: rasgrand | March 26, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is probably one of the worst speech readers of our time.

He simply can not make those words sound like his own.

I look for the strings that make his arms wave, and the hand that makes his mouth move.

Posted by: HoracePManure | March 26, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Mr. McCain is still under the illusion that pulling out of Viet Nam in some manner stained all who served there. I suggest that he have lunch with former Sec. of Defense McNamara (yes he is still alive) and get the real facts on those who caused our involvement in that disaster; including LBJ who was so concerned that he would be the first POTUS to lose a war and damage his ego driven legacy. My great fear with McCain relates to his possible choice of a VP. I fear it will be Mr. Lieberman who, in a most egregious manner, refuses to recognize the many violations of international law and the trampling on human rights committed by Israel on an on-going basis. Mr. Lieberman, who would like to make Israel the 51st state (perhaps not a bad idea as then the billions of taxpayer dollars wasted there would be very apparent) would be very aggressive in regard to the Palestinians and Iran. Any hope for peace in the M/East would be destroyed if he becomes involved in the policies of a McCain administration.

Posted by: frklynson | March 26, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Stupid Americans....we are "seek and yee shall find" when we are looking for a reason to discredit someone, but when we know there is a reason to discredit someone we like, we put the blinders on.........go figure..........Americans think ID is science......whew.......

I would rather have a "inexperienced" Democrat wasting a billion on helping the poor or disabled or uneducated, than have a neo-con Republican blow a billion on killing tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi and thousands of US service men and women.

"They're just taking a little while to figure out who can massacre more of the Republicans in the general election, that's all."

Posted by: getcentered | March 26, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Sure McCain freely admitted he doesn't have the experience on the economy. But at least he admits it. I can think of something worse, namely a junior senator who has no experience whatsoever in an arena, niether the economy nor foreign policy nor "reaching across the aisle" as he preaches. No president has the full array of skills for the job and in this field McCain has the best. But of course giving entertaining speeches aint bad either. Americans do like to be entertained.

Posted by: achira | March 26, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

As an Independent, I originally supported Obama. Now as the Democrats tear each other apart, I am back to undecided. I have always thought that McCain has some proven credentials when it comes to pushing for change and working with the other party instead of just falling in line. I believe he will continue to be a person driven by his own settled convictions and his sense of common sense.

While I still agree with many policy positions a more progressive platform generally offers, these are two important issues to me. On Iraq I have been fiercely critical of Bush - the rationale for war and the handling of it thereafter. And Congress seems unable to do anything about it (not that the Republican led Congress wanted to take on that fight). But I strongly agree with McCain that now we are there we have a moral obligation to help that country. Our challenge is competent leadership in my opinion, and I think McCain will bring that. Leaving Iraq just hoping for the best but expecting the worst after we invaded and occupied their country is just morally wrong (and maybe strategically as well). We unilaterally took responsibility for the welfare of Iraqi civilians when we invaded. We still have that responsibility.

I do not like supporting bailouts for bad companies or risk-takers. I think McCain's logic makes sense. "Common sense" sounds great! I'd love to see that law and it institutionalized (holding breath). Allowing subjectivity to make decisions since life is full of nuances is a lofty goal but this is the same country that sends all repeat drug addicts to jail (so they can become worse people) and just last week denied a green card to an Iraqi translator that had the support of top military leaders. Just call me skeptical until I see the nuts and bolts of how McCain's theory would be put to practice.

But, my vote is back in play. I love democracy.

Posted by: houtex97 | March 26, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

And what Senator McCain forgot to say:

"I apologize for co-signing and consigning the Iraqi people to the horrendous violence, ethnic cleansing, and possibly genocide that has resulted from our reckless, irresponsible, and premature entry into the affairs of the country in the first place"

Posted by: csfoster2000 | March 26, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

"Outside of a total collapse (And I mean TOTAL colapse, not merely a split of the electorate)the Dem party they can offer up a broccoli fart in a jar and still gain the White House."---------feastorafamine

a broccoli fart in a jar"
oh hell no...........that is MAD funny.....you made my day..........thanks......Go Dems!

Posted by: getcentered | March 26, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

getcentered wrote....

The GOP/Republican tools on these forums wouldn't dare talk about Republicans and their failed policies. Instead they help themselves feel better about blind support for the Republicans, by attacking Democrats trying to fan the flames of dissent within the DNC.

Yeah, I remember how well the flames of dissent worked the dems in 1968. It gave us Nixon. Trust me, with Clinton's scorched earth political philosophy and a split dem party. Chicago may have been a tea party by comparison.

Add to that, that the absolute worst republican candidate the dems could have hoped for is going to be the opposition.... doesn't look good to me.

Posted by: Pthomas2mm | March 26, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Lets recap:

9/11 Terrorist attack..........
The WORLD gets behind the USA to support whatever action, against those who caused this attack....................
Bush declares WAR on the Taliban in Afghanistan.................
Allies of the USA unite, and go into Afghanistan ready to kick some a**...............
Bush declares WAR on Iraq...............................
The world allies question this decision, and are chastised by the Bush admin for doing so..........
The world allies remove support in dismay at the decisions of the Americans to attack Iraq......................
The US stands alone in Iraq.....................
Americans die in an unnecessary war in Iraq and the cause of the 9/11 terrorist attacks are lost in the minds of Americans........................

Can we say digress?????

The deception metastasizes as the months and causalities mount...............

The President who was never deigned to go to Dover Air Force Base to salute the fallen who are coming home says no photographs of their coffins can be permitted because that would hurt the feelings of the families. This is false, tragically false; the real reason is that day after day the photos would starkly reveal the price of Bush's folly.

Posted by: getcentered | March 26, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

NEWS FLASH!
The notion that McCain can actually WIN in November is laughable. Do the simple math "My friends" The voter turnout through this entire election cycle has been a 2 to 1 margin in favor of Dems. That's twice as many people voting for Dems than Repubs. Couple that with 8 years of failure by conservatives and you have a cocktail for a beatdown. How is John McCain going to inspire twice the voter turnout for his party? His great speeches? Conservative talk radio? His flip-flop talk express bus overstuffed with Lobbyists? We all love to engage in punditry but the facts are the facts. Repubs do not have the votes to win. Outside of a total collapse (And I mean TOTAL colapse, not merely a split of the electorate)the Dem party they can offer up a broccoli fart in a jar and still gain the White House. What planet are you conservatives living on? Your Reagan Democrat pink cloud from 20+ years ago?

Posted by: feastorafamine | March 26, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Let's just call him what he is: McBush. Then let the chips fall where they may in the election.

Posted by: PutDownTheKoolaid | March 26, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Hillary let Obama's speach pass because she provoked it. What was she gonna say? Way to go buddy o pal of mine? Classy? Cmon get a grip!

Posted by: Pthomas2mm | March 26, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

McCain says the U.S. Has 'Moral Responsibility' in Iraq.

No Spit Sherlock.
First cheney, rummy, wolfie and powell bomb the country back to the stone age then allow a civil war to start. Allow millions of Iraqis to become refugees while the US kills 10's of thousands more and McCain can come up with is U.S. Has 'Moral Responsibility' in Iraq.

How about stopping the killing by getting out of Iraq or is 4000 dead G.I.'s not
enough .

Posted by: knjincvc | March 26, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

The hostility is sad.

I believe that before we have government mandated health care coverage, the government should fix the Medicare and Social Security crises that are currently looming just over the horizon. Stop PANDERING and FIX IT.

Promising more "social safety netting" at this point in time is PANDERING. We can't AFFORD it period. Frankly, I am tired of politicians spending MY money while telling me I need to "contribute" to the greater good.

Posted by: Pthomas2mm | March 26, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

All we are accomplishing in Iraq is to train, equip, and motivate the next generation of anti-American guerillas. McCain wants to do more of this. It's insane. We need to stop choosing new enemies to have any hope of dealing with those who choose to be adversaries without our prompting. The sooner we get out of Iraq, the safer we will be, if only for not throwing away young lives there for no purpose.

Posted by: lartfromabove | March 26, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

The GOP will be HURTING in the next elections!!!!

The GOP/Republican tools on these forums wouldn't dare talk about Republicans and their failed policies. Instead they help themselves feel better about blind support for the Republicans, by attacking Democrats trying to fan the flames of dissent within the DNC.

Well now I know, a vote for a Republican is literally a vote for ignorance, and misguided spending in an unnecessary war in Iraq, which causes more hate........

Democrats ROCK!!!!!!!!!!

Obama made an amazing speech last week! I have never heard any politician speak so candidly and clearly about ANY topic, much less the state of racism in America.
MAJOR APLAUSE FOR BARRAK OBAMA!!

I like how eloquently Hillary Clinton commented and plugged him for his speech. She knows Barrack summed up the topic of racism so well, that she let it stand as is.

Very graceful of her!

I'd love to see a Republican address this subject in such a direct and intelligent way.
This country has some healing to do and Republicans just GET IN THE WAY.

This election will be historic, and it's not about Hillary versus Obama, it's about Democrat versus Republican.

Hillary or Obama, or both. Go Democrats!

Posted by: getcentered | March 26, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Pete McCloskey R-CA- "In 1994, however, Newt Gingrich brought a new kind of Republicanism to power, and the election of George W. Bush in 2000 has led to wholly new concept of governance. The bureaucracy has mushroomed in size and power. The budget deficits have become astronomical. Our historical separation of church and state has been blurred. We have seen a succession of ethical scandals, congressmen taking bribes, and abuse of power by both the Republican House leadership and the highest appointees of the White House.
The single cardinal principle of political science, that power corrupts, has come to apply not only to Republican leaders like Tom DeLay, Duke Cunningham, Bob Ney and John Doolittle, but to a succession of White House officials and appointees. The stench of Jack Abramoff has permeated much of the Washington Republican establishment.
The Justice Department, guardian of of our rule of law, has been compromised. It's third ranking official, a graduate of Pat Robertson's dubious law school, has taken the 5th Amendment.
Men who have never felt the fear of combat, and who largely dodged military service in their youth, have led us into grievous wars in far off places with no thought of the diplomacy, grace and respect for other peoples and their cultures which has been an American trademark for at least the last two thirds of a century. We have lost the respect and affection of most of the world outside our borders. My son, Peter, one of the U.S. prosecutors at The Hague of the war crimes in Serbia and elsewhere, tells me that people of other countries no longer look at the country which countenances torture as a beacon for the world and the rule of law."

Posted by: getcentered | March 26, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Kenatseigel wrote...

We do not have the courage or intelligence to admit that our nation has been involved in spectacular acts of criminal depravity unseen in at least a generation under this second Bush administration.

Puhlease!!!!!!
Soundslike your quote applies to the fear mongering hyperbole you wrote above.

An illegal war (approved by congress)? Sorry you didn't have the votes to stop it. Then again it is only illegal with the revisionist history now accepted as fact, offered up by the dems who voted for it.

Politicians lying to the american people? Yeah and Claude Raines was shocked that gambling was going on at Rick's cafe. Of course, the dems NEVERR lie. Depending on what your definition of is, is.

Criminal depravity is flying planes into buildings.

It's patting a soldier on the back and trying to cut off the funding he needs to survive to PANDER to your base.

It's the failure to educate our children and make them ready to compete in a global economy by teaching them that competition is bad. It's NOT teaching a child with a failing grade how to excel, but simply eliminating grading systems because they make kids feel bad. Heaven knows that positive self-esteem (even if it's an illusion) will better prepare them for life. Particularly if it is a life attached the government teet. To me THAT is criminal.

Did deregulation and lack of oversight cause the mortgage crisis? Or did opportunistic greedy people take advantage of clients who wanted more home than they could afford on one end (after all it helped their self-esteem) and sell those mortgages to greedy bankers who wanted to cash in on what they KNEW would be increased rates and more profit, on the other.

Do you really believe that more oversight would have stopped that? Do you really believe the DEMS would have done it differently? See the dotcom bubble of the Clinton years as just one example.

Do I agree with every decision of the past 8 years? No. Of the previous 8? Hardly.

The path to destruction for this country will be economic and will come in the form of state run health care adding trillions to the already 11 trillion dollars in deficit required to fund Medicare (that other govt health care fiasco).

It will come in the form of what may be a trillion dollar bail out of bad bankers and bad borrowers because the government should definitely help the borrowers keep their self-esteem and the bahkers have to survive to fund both parties campaigns.

A politician with the guts and intelligence to say NO rather than pander to the "I want it free" generation IS exactly the president we not only deserve, we need

Posted by: Pthomas2mm | March 26, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Mcain does not have a clue. If you love bush you will love mcainbush two. Continue the insanity, its what you deserve.

Posted by: maat523 | March 26, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

More importantly, how is he different than Cheneybush?

Posted by: coloradodog | March 26, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

It is amazing to me how much hostility and vitriol makes its appearance in these comments, especially given that each of the 3 remaining major candidates are much more highly qualified for the presidency than were either John Kerry or George W. Bush. As a liberal, I disagree with Mccain on many issues but I do believe he has integrity and is not a slave to ideology. Barack Obama has much more experience than he is given credit for and his published views on trade policy, education and social issues show that he is open to new thinking on old issues, even when it is not in line with liberal orthodoxy. Senator Clinton, while not the most convincing paragon of integrity, clearly has worked towards her vision of what would make the world a better place and is without question, remarkably intelligent.

Why all the hostility? It's sad, really.

Posted by: dkamionk | March 26, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

The Democrats are not very soundly oriented or organized, but the Republicans will suffer at the next election because of the insane beliefs held by Republican diehard "dead enders" (to quote Rummy) who fail to understand or even see any sign of error, misguided judgement or stupidity in the Bush Presidency.

And what a Presidency it has been! Evidence of the Bush Administration's collective stupidity is abundant!

With a full Republican majority in both the Senate and the House, President Bush and his Administration have at ***almost*** every turn made decisions that have already resulted in extremely bad consequences for not only the US population but for the environment and the future of at least a few generations. Wow.

With "family values" and "religious morals" as their guidelines, the Bush Administration has assaulted reason, intelligence and plain old common sense. Do you know how to best describe Bush and his idiot followers? It's simple, just a few words are needed:

"Ideological, Incompetent, and Arrogant."

What a combination. (Kind of like an open can of gasoline, a pyromaniac and a pack of matches.)

If you want yet more insane assaults against reason, intelligence and plain old common sense -- if you really dislike the future -- Then make sure you vote for yet more of these ideologues. You and your children deserve a special hell.

Again, the Democrats are not very soundly oriented or organized but they will prevail this time simply because the Republicans have built their future on profoundly stupid notions and the dead enders in the party keep spouting insane support for policies that have already resulted in (if it were funny) laughable results.

If, after 7 years of George Bush (possibly the worst President in 100 years) you still support the College idiot Bush, if you really think the College idiot Mccain is a better choice than Clinton or Obama, if you honestly believe Clinton is a Nazi or a left winger -- God help you, you are a complete idiot. Get an education, your country badly needs you to get educated.

Posted by: vicweast | March 26, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

the difference is - McCain is being HONEST. For primaries, Obama tells the rabid left he will pull out of Iraq, renegotiate NAFTA, give subsidies to those under-water on mortages. Then he tells the Europeans and Canadians the opposite.

Posted by: pgr88 | March 26, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Senator McCain sounds very sober and sombre.

His views are well-rounded on (i) the home mortgage crisis (ii) the Iraq War.

We need realism and common sense.

The Bush Administration has acted rashly and unwisely on multiple fronts.

(a) Jumping into an un-wise war in Iraq
(b) Handing out tax breaks wrecklessly without sound management principles of the economy both in the short and long-term.
(c) Tax Reform, tight fiscal discipline and getting over the gigantic fiscal deficit has been just pushed to future administrations without any long-term vision. His focus has been cheap populism instead of long-term fiscal discipline. He has squandered resources like nobody's business.

We need to dis-engage from Iraq and withdraw in the medium and longer term.

Senator Mc Cain will have to make a new beginning if he indeed, becomes the next President.

Prudent foreign policy and prudent economic policy should be his corner-stones.

Of course, he needs to offer only principled leadership but gather the real experts to do the job for him, choosing the best and the brightest without fear or favor.

In maturity and understanding I give a lot of credit to Senator Mc Cain.

The cost of failure can be very, very heavy. I am sure he would know that better.

Let us get over the Bushenomics and the misplaced war in Iraq as we grapple forward to face our hard realities with a new vigour , a new discipline, with sobreity and common sense.

If Senator McCain can indeed deliver, he is my choice for the next man in the White House.

Posted by: mdsubramonia | March 26, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

McCain is free to say banks should not be bailed out, but if the Federal Reserve decides to do so he cannot control it. McCain propbly thinks such talk of his makes him look good. Actually, it makes him look dumb.

By forcing renegotiation of many ARM's we could have averted a financial meltdown. So McCain is off the mark and needs to return ECON 101.

Bush handled the ARM crisis like he did Katrina. He watched people drown on a video tape.

Posted by: Maddogg | March 26, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Having reached sevety something in age doesn't make a person wise. Having 50 kids doesn't make a couple the best parents on earth. Having the ability to lie to people and deceive them doesn't make a person the best for the presidents job.

I agree, McCain has some good ideas, and sometimes he is able to worth with members of both parties.
He sometimes seem to care about the people of America. But his idea of using force to solve all problems is something that most people will not agree with. If that was the case, then we should spank the hell out of all the kids that misbehave; we should beat the hell out of the schoolyard bullies. Any objections?

Hillary is a congenital liar, and she does not care about the people of America. She only care about getting herself prestige, power, and money. If she was a decent human being, she would not have slandered her competition, and would not have thrown mud on her opponents (she continue to do so). If she was a decent candidate, she would have commended her opponents on their wins; she would have stayed away from demeaning and marginalizing her opponents wins and congradulated them instead. If she was a decent and truststworthy candidate, she would not have lied about her sniper-fire trip to Bosnia.

That leaves one candidate, who stood up in the face of attack from McCain and Hillary. On that topic, I give more respect to McCain because he did not try to drag Obama through the mud. He challenged Obama to take public funding, but he did not tie Obama to the back bumper of the truck and drag him on the road, which cannot be said of Hillary. Even though Hillary and her husband invited to white house the same pastor, whom the Clintons are portraying as demon, they have no shame in pouring tar over him and talk trash about him. Clintons proclaims to know the pain of Blacks and Latinos, but it matters only when they are about to go to the polling booth. I, for one, will not vote for a liar. I don't know about the rest of America.

Posted by: Dave27 | March 26, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Love war? Love waterboarding? Vote for John McBush. A vote for McBush is a vote for continued and continual war.

Posted by: MatthewM1 | March 26, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

War with Iran? McCain is your man.

If you, as an American, believe in endless imperialism and war, then you should vote for this maniac.

Posted by: awktalk | March 26, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

I wonder how many days and nights back in Vietnam John McCain wondered why America's commitment to the war it sent him to was so wobbly.

I'll bet he has a pact with himself: Never Again.

If he does he represents a profound danger to this country and the world. A war that was a mistake from its inception should not be "won" in conventional terms.

Look at what Queen Victoria once called her "little wars". The Boer war, several in South Asia. Did they win? Did England save face? No. They bled themselves white all the while America grew to eclipse them. Don't let John McCain redress his injury this way.

Posted by: shrink2 | March 26, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Viet Nam survived American invasion, occupation and withdrawal. After we left, they recovered and prospered.

Posted by: x32792 | March 26, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

McCain provides a clear contrast from the Dems, just like Bush does.

Privatize Social Security so we can watch it crash and burn like the housing market as investment bankers and wall street dons make billions. Reduce the ability of people to afford health care by removing tax deductions for it. Bomb Iran (if Cheney & Co. don't do it first).

Now he warns of civil war in Iraq? Where the hell has John McCain been for the last four years, having prison camp flashbacks?

Posted by: natterly71 | March 26, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Sen. McCain framework for carrying out his world vision would be a League of Democracies.

After WWI to prevent future world conflicts, the winners formed the League of Nations. But the United States refused to join the League thus insuring its' failure as an instrument to keep the peace. Learning from that mistake, the United States, while WWII still raged, became a forceful advocate for the formation of the United Nations. With all its' shortcomings, it is still an indispensible mechanism for nations to settle their differences.

What did Senator McCain say about the role of the United Nations in his foreign policy? Nothing. Not a word.

Posted by: jnj3568 | March 26, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

well it looks like the left is going to get their wishes as far as shutting down all the energy producing potential the usa has ,which will certainly blow mccains so-called economic policies out of the water. food prices and everything else will be going through the roof. the world court will get their wishes next time too.

Posted by: 12thgenamerican | March 26, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

McCain hates war, he says. It's the worst thing in the world, he says. But what will he do to stop it? Keep on going.

Does this sound like someone who really hates war? It doesn't to me.

And why in the world would Nancy Reagan give her "endorsement" to McCain? Does she think Ron would have agreed with him?

I truly think McCain is for McCain, period.

Posted by: disunion | March 26, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

What you get from the Dems:

-Bailout of stupid people (many wealthy mind you--the enemy) who bought second homes and investment properties betting that they would rise in value and now are stuck with them or are walking away from them. That goes also for the dumb investors that backed these loans.

-Free substandard healthcare for lazy people who do not work and sit around, smoke dope and do drugs, along with the 40M illegal aliens who pay no taxes. Need an operation, that will be a few months...hope you can wait.

-More taxes....even on the middle class whom the Dems claim to be out to protect.

-Signing unfair enviromental treaties, thus making it more difficult and costly for US businesses and making it more attractive to relocate manufacturing abroad while China and Russia are exempt because they are developing nations.

-Why doesn't Obama throw Wright under the bus? The guy is radioactive but apparently he sees some sort of loyalty there.

Posted by: Larsen770 | March 26, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Senator Obama has proven himself to be a better USA loving patriot than the untold many of poorly informed and/or unpatriotic voters who would still vote for McCain/Bush/Cheney policies that have mostly devastated our economy, foreign and domestic policies and placed the US treasury into the pockets of McCain/Bush/Cheney's friends and supporters. Why some are seeking to use Rev. Wright as a rope to lynch Senator Obama brings to mind an agenda to prevent an African-American, half white and black and above all else a very qualified candidate from residing in the White House. How can we say we are fair and balanced minded when we refuse to judge a person on the basis of his/her own character content? Remember that was the way many of us in the old ultra racist days of America judged different people. That is the same old way of thinking that inhibits us from becoming a greater nation for all of our citizens, while still shining brightly as the golden nation on the mountain top. Basically, Senator Obama has demonstrated through deeds and words, not like some showy and disingenuous American flag lapel wearing, unreasonably sellout the U.S, selfish politicians. Barack Obama was, is and will continue to be a strong American patriot who can relate effectively with all Americans and forcefully defend American interest wherever and/or whenever it may be threatened. He is honest, fair-minded and talks to all Americans with love and hope for a stronger future. For a person to deny these facts and support the continued old failed McCain/Bush/Cheney's policies speaks to a loud volume of that person's allegiance to our great country. Time's up for true change.

Posted by: rasgrand | March 26, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

US gave billions of dollars to the Islamic Jihad to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan. Militant Islamic movements are a product of the US financing of the Islamic Jihad. Osama is America's creation. You want change? Obama, Be the first US president to acknowledge this link. The United States has a responsibility to Fess Up, and a responsibility to address its past mistakes without killing more innocent civilians.

Posted by: ksarabi | March 26, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

P.S.

The stain on our nation has already been put there by the torture this President has condoned, resulting in over 30 individuals murdered via interrogation in Afghanistan and Iraq, by the murder of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, the displacing of 2.5 million Iraqis, the destruction of their culture, economy and infrastructure.

The stain is there Mr. Bomb-Bomb-Iran, and you would create a greater stain on our honor by continuing this lie and illegal occupation.

Posted by: wayoffbaseguy | March 26, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

On a lighter note:
(tune = Wonderful World apologies to Sam Cooke)

Don't know much about geography
Don't know much about the economy-y-y
Don't know where our federal money's gone
Don't know what side of Iraq I'm o-o-n

But I do know I am John McCain
And if you mark your ballot for my name
(You'll get) Another Clueless Presidency!

Posted by: SoldiersMom | March 26, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

"if the GOP puts a dead tree as representative candidate for my district I will vote for it."

-The Audacity of Hate?

This is the problem with voters on both sides. If you really believe this even metaphorically you are dumb. Period. Read a non-fiction book, turn off Fox-News and get a point of view. Luckily, if you repeat this process enough times, you will be markedly less dumb.

Posted by: bettereditor | March 26, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

There is an old military adage that comes to mind with regards to the potential election of John McCain:

One time is happenstance.
Two times is coincidence.
Three times is enemy action.

From the way things are looking, if McCain does win the election commission needs to take a VERY close look at the polling, particularly the demonstrably flawed and insecure electronic machines by Diebold et al. There is evidence (none conclusive, I'll grant) of irregularities in 2000 and 2004 with these devices, particularly in Ohio, and in sundry state and local elections around the nation. It may take three consecutive fiascos for us to realize it, but if McCain gets elected make no mistake: it is by the devices of Enemies of America.

Posted by: clearbeard | March 26, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

McCain has surrounded himself and his campaign with various lobby representatives, military war hawk neocons and is perhaps even more inclined to attack Iran or other places than Bush.

Posted by: mack11 | March 26, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Bomb-Bomb-Iran has no morals, so how can he say we have a moral responsibility to continue our illegal occupation of Iraq???

Our moral obligation was and is to a) say we are sorry, and b) provide the funds to an international body to oversee the reconstruction of Iraq by Iraqis.

Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11. Our president knowingly lied us into a war of his choosing.

Just say no to Bomb-Bomb-Iran.

Posted by: wayoffbaseguy | March 26, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

upperdeck4

What? Well here I thought 'merca's crackers were all getting on board with the Obama campaign before they found out he had an angry pastor. You burst my bubble. You mean they hated him all along?

Actually I am glad the Clintons are doing what they are doing to Obama as they circle the drain. What will FOX accuse Obama of from now on? Doing cocaine? Being "out of step" with America?

ZZZZZZZZZZ.

If this country wants more of Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld, the choice is clear.
McCain owns the war and the recession as the right course for America. It is going to be really ugly for him in November. The war is heating up again and China isn't liking the falling dollar one bit. Who will buy McCain/Cheney war bonds if China stops?

All wars end and this one is going to end sooner than McCain wants it to and not on his terms. As if "staying the course" will help this country save face. Who are we impressing by staying there, really?

What country is saying, "Gee, I sure hope the US does not pull out of Iraq for another few decades?" Crucial strategic allies like China and Japan? Well guess what, their export economies depend on us buying their stuff. Falling dollar...not helping.

The Rs are toast. Look at their legislators fleeing for the exits.

Posted by: shrink2 | March 26, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

McCain, a man who readily admits he knows nothing about economics has no economic policy. Dan, you really need to stop the St. McCain worship. He listens to Alan Greenspan the man who as Federal Reserve Chairman is widely blamed for causing this present economic mess? How could that possibly help us? Dan, you brown nose is showing way too much.

Posted by: cfeher | March 26, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

to America1:
I would be more impressed with your argument had it not been laced with racial and ethnic slurs and obvious anti-immigrant assumptions about how illegals survie in this country.

The bottom line is that NO ONE is going to be able to effectively deport 11 million people from this country. Like it or not that is the reality. Add that simple logistical fact to the fact that many illegals have children that are CITIZENS and it makes some form of guest worker/earned citizenship program a necessity.

Secure our borders? You bet. Deport illegals who have a history of violence or violent criminal activity? Absolutely. If they have citizen children they become wards of the state. But the only way to reduce the strain on our economy and the social safety net that is designed for our citizens is to deal with the problem in a fair and compassionate way. Spewing HATRED in the guise of a political argument is bigotry and counter-productive.

Posted by: Pthomas2mm | March 26, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Lucy wrote:

"I must be ignorant....would please someone tell me how you get god damn America out of context of anything"

Lucy, if you will listen to 10 minutes of Rev. Wright's sermon on U-tube, instead of 10 seconds, you will find that the context is that God CONDEMN (damn in biblical terms) America "as long as she acts like she is GOD and she is Supreme."
It's an ancient Judeo-Christian concept that no nation, be it Israel (in the Bible) or America (modern day) is equal to or above the wisdom of God.
In the old testament Israel repeatedly strayed from the ways of God, went her own way, and God condemned (damned) her to be smitten by her enemies.
Well, on 9/11 America was smitten by her enemies. The Judeo-Christian response is to ask, "How has the nation strayed from the ways of God? How can we avoid damnation?"
Now, you might not think it is patriotic to scrutinize America's wrongdoings when she has been struck by her enemies, but as long as you INSIST that your president be a Christian or a Jew, you cannot blame him for going to a church that teaches Christian or Jewish doctrine.

Posted by: SoldiersMom | March 26, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

To edbyronadams, re: your multiple choice

The answer, of course, is A. The other choices are just absurd.

Posted by: clearbeard | March 26, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is the President this country deserves.

We do not have the courage or intelligence to admit that our nation has been involved in spectacular acts of criminal depravity unseen in at least a generation under this second Bush administration.

One illegal war, state sanctioned torture, political manipulation of the judicial, environmental, educational, intelligence, and many other departments and appointees. And the imminent collapse of our entire financial system which has been crippled by gluttonous profit taking and the exploitation of working people.

We are a nation of children.

Unable to reason without fear or anger of enemies both real and imaginary.

So I say full speed ahead to ruin.

John McCain for President in 2008.

Posted by: kenatseigel | March 26, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

As far as the so-called WAR in Iraq;

Last I checked, al-Maliki, and the official Armed Services of Iraq, were SHUTTING DOWN, the Illegal Mahdi Militia! :-)

THAT, is some serious and welcome PROGRESS! :-)

Oh, and BTW-It is NOT going to be easy, let's help! ;~)

Posted by: rat-the | March 26, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

All I care about is that John McCain supported Bush in the veto rejecting stopping the CIA from torturing prisoners.

Don't need to know anything else - this is the ultimate flip flop !!

Posted by: swanieaz | March 26, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

McROMNEY

With Giuliani, Thompson, Dr. Ron Paul and More in Assigned Posts!

The REAL DREAM TEAM. :-)

Live It, Learn IT, LOVE IT! :-)

Posted by: rat-the | March 26, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Combating terrorism is a police, not military, responsibility.
You can no more declare 'Mission Accomplished' or success
in a war on terror than you can on a war on drugs, poverty, or anything of the vein,
as they are not wars. They are law enforcement tasks.

We used the wrong tool to go after Bin Laden, much like the Nazi's pursuit of the Vemork saboteurs, and both got away.
With these lessons and others in military history, its clear that we are not in Iraq for the Iraqis, or to pursue Al-Qaeda. Indeed, Al-Qaeda came to us there.

The possibility of an Iraqi civil war is distressing to America not because of the loss of life that would ensue, as America has shown itself to be immune to the already horrific conditions and daily casualties that have persisted in Iraq due to their invasion and subsequent occupation. What distresses the Americans is a resulting Iraq rightfully hostile to Washington, a deal-breaker with all that oil under their feet.

The idea of bringing freedom and democracy to Iraq is a smokescreen. It is not democracy to ask the Iraqi people to vote from a pool of pre-selected puppets. Democracy in America itself is a perversion wherein a minority maintains control through propaganda aimed at the simple minded, a sub-prime sector that is itself nearly a majority. The educated, law-abiding, community-serving long-term citizens are drown out. This perversion results in sub-prime leadership we see across the board in America, and now we wish the Iraqis to follow suit?

If John wants to talk about moral responsibility, then he should be talking about fighting our 'wars' somewhere other than someone else's backyard. And how is our backyard? Its porous enough that future motel-6 maids and apple pickers can cross yearly by their millions. He, like the other pre-selected puppets, is incompetent.

As for the financial crisis, nobody has mentioned the fact that it was also the US government that assumed risk by failing to secure more transparency in the investment banking industry, especially concerning hedge funds and other opaque instruments. Thus their fingerprints are also on the smoking gun. A federal bail out and improved oversight should thus result. And there should be a retribution to the American people who will be footing the bill.

In response to John's comments on speculators, Obama characterized the tens of thousands of households in the Carolinas facing foreclosure as falling under John's definition of real estate speculation. Obama is taking a leap of faith, hoping enough incompetents won't notice and help get him closer to a majority vote.
If votes in this democracy were weighed according to education, age, community service, time in country, and criminal record, he would have shot himself in the foot with such comment.
But in an environment where two undocumented, single-issue voters can outvote the most reasoned voter by an order of magnitude, he instead will likely win the presidency.

Posted by: bushieisa | March 26, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

The war is going badly. The economy is crumbling, enough said. Let's hope that an equal number of Republicans unhappy with their candidate vote Democrat much as the Democrats unhappy with their candidates threaten to vote Republican. END THE WAR IN IRAQ.

Posted by: jimarush | March 26, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

McCain will bury the hatchet with Romney, choose him as VP, and Romney will take over the reins in 2012. Either that or another young, energetic Republican.

Sound like a nightmare, Democrats? Well, then, get your heads out of your you-know-wheres. The Democrat exile from 16oo Pennsylvania will continue as long as they refuse to nominate sensible candidates for this position. They had their chance this year with Joe Biden, one of the most qualified candidates either side could offer. But they preferred the extremist policies of John Edwards (for a little while), the divisiveness and lies of Hillary Clinton and the masque of a skilled rhetorician with feet of clay and no practical leadership experience in government.

Hillary says Obama is unelectable. Guess what? They're BOTH unelectable.

Republicans are feeling the pain of having to nominate someone who will not go lockstep with the extreme wings of the party, but now they are getting behind him for the greater good. The Democrats have not figured this out yet (and, yes, both Hillary and Obama are very, VERY liberal). Until you do, you can take the visitor's tour of the West Wing.

Oh, and you can also fire the rocket scientist that came up with this Rube Goldberg device of a primary system that you have. How's that workin' out for ya'?

Posted by: etpietro | March 26, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

I pray we are not stupid enough to follow the GOP off this cliff a third time. The results are clear, and it is time for a different approach with different people at the wheel.

Posted by: mobedda | March 26, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

"Government assistance to the banking system should be based solely on preventing systemic risk that would endanger the entire financial system and the economy."

So what McCain is saying then is that individuals preyed on by large speculative banking conglomerates like Bear Stearns should expect no aid, but the large conglomerates that caused the problem in the first place should be bailed out becuase their failure would endanger the entire financial system. Glad to know that the current GOP candidate remains firmly in the pocket of big business interests.

Posted by: clearbeard | March 26, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

>Yes, Obama, you can dissemble all you want, but we know you and your racist wife Michelle endorse, officially or unofficially, whether you admit it or not, this kind of racist garbage from the good Rev. Wright-for 20 years-and bring your children to it as well-so taken together, that clearly, clearly, CANNOT BE TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT.
Which means, if Obama is the Dem. candidate, this Dem. is going for McCain-AND HAPPY TO DO SO!
Posted by: schmetterlingtoo | March 26, 2008 04:19 PM
______

Oh please stop it. If it wasn't this, you'd manufacture something else. I'll bet your views on race as well as the others who harp on this preacher are 19th century. You and others who post like this would never vote for Obama anyways. You really are not fooling anyone.

Posted by: upperdeck4 | March 26, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Drawing so many lines accross everything
other than our borders during time of
war--maybe he should borrow some of the
Fed's unlimited green ink supply!

Posted by: josephjsalas | March 26, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Which means, if Obama is the Dem. candidate, this Dem. is going for McCain-AND HAPPY TO DO SO!


Posted by: schmetterlingtoo | March 26, 2008 04:19 PM

**************************
smell ya later, schmenga...don't need ya

relying on the crippled market to get us out of this mess and yet tie our country's hands financially pouring billions of dollars into war that has cost 4,000 U.S. lives (as of today) and hundreds of thousands Iraqi lives. I hope you and JakeDolt enjoy warm weather. Old man McSame will have you conscripted to go fight in Iran over some islamofacist thingeemajig he will find. Make sure you are high-fiving and pumping fists then.

Posted by: LABC | March 26, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Huh?

Unless I'm missing something, this article failed to demonstrate "bright line of difference" between McCain, Clinton, and Obama regarding the housing crisis.

According to the article, Mcain's position is that "any assistance for borrowers should be focused solely on homeowners".

In supposed contrast, "Obama or Clinton...have called on the federal government to provide billions in assistance to homeowners facing the threat of foreclosure."

I fail to see the difference. They both intend to provide assistance to homeowners, according to the article.

The only difference I see in this article is that Clinton and Obama have a number ("billions") associated with their assistance, but McCain does not (though it surely would also be "billions").

Can someone explain the difference here?

By including McCain's statement that housing assistance should not be spread to speculators, the author implies that therein lies the contrast. But the author fails to provide any evidence that either candidate intends to do this.

I also don't like the fact that the author groups Clinton and Obama together, as if their policies were essentially the same (which they are not).

The end result is that the author appears disingenuous.

Posted by: mwalker1 | March 26, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

For all of you blokes who believe McCain messed up when he spoke of Iran arming al-Qaeda in Iraq-I have news for you: YOUR OWN STATE DEPT. ACCUSED IRAN THIS PAST SUMMER OF THE EXACT SAME THING, AND SURPRISE THE EVER DISINGENUOUS PERSIANS DENIED IT!

From wcbstv.com, Feb. 1, 2008:

...Crocker also said that Iran continues to play a negative role in training and supplying insurgents with weapons and explosives, but made clear he remains open to renewing a three-way security dialogue with Iranian and Iraqi officials.

A new meeting between the three sides could happen in "the next week or so," he said. But he noted that he had expected such talks to take place in early January after the United States indicated it was willing to participate a month earlier.

"The Iranians may be ready to come back to the table and if they are, we'll be there," Crocker said. "I am perfectly ready to sit down with my counterpart and would expect to do so."

However, he said a lower-level meeting of security officials would likely proceed any ambassadorial meeting, which would be his fourth with the Iranian ambassador to Iraq since he arrived in Baghdad nearly one year ago.


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Baghdad - A fresh round of US-Iranian talks on Iraqi security ended in Baghdad Tuesday with a US warning to Iran about al- Qaeda - and the two sides agreeing to form a security committee including Iraqis, Iranians and Americans. US Ambassador Ryan Crocker told reporters the United States had told the Iranians it knew Iran had been aiding militias in Iraq and had been supporting al-Qaeda.

He added that the US warned Iran of the danger of al-Qaeda not only to the US and Iraq but also, in the long run, to Iran itself.

The fresh round of talks on stemming the violence in Iraq were led by Crocker - who called the talks "positive" - and Iranian Ambassador Hassan Kazemi-Qomi - who also said they were "correct and positive."

The US accuses Iran of stoking violence in Iraq by supporting Shiite militias in the country - a charge Tehran denies.

The two ambassadors had already had a similar meeting in May, the first official contact between the two nations since Iran's Islamic revolution in 1979. The talks ended without conclusion.

Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki had earlier urged both Washington

SO, IT LOOKS LIKE MCCAIN WASN'T THE ONE TO BE MISTAKEN AT ALL, BUT LIEBERMAN (not a first for Lieberman)-HOWEVER, ANYONE CAN DO THE RESEARCH THEMSELVES, AND SEE WHAT THE STATE DEPT. HAS BEEN WARNING IRAN ABOUT FOR THE PAST YEAR OR SO-EXACTLY WHAT MCCAIN SAID-IRAN ARMING AL-QAEDA AND MILITIAS IN IRAQ.

Lieberman needs to be the one who is brought on the carpet, but that won't happen, because no one wants to show that Lieberman didn't know what the hell he was talking about!

Posted by: schmetterlingtoo | March 26, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED after OLD SKYHAWK landed in Amman, Jordan. [broadcasted on the Satellite FRANCE24.com New in English today].

[The Camera is on. Two shot of Sentaros Joe Lieberman, Left, and Mc Cain Right].

SYNC John Mc Cain: (We must prtoest). IRAN HELPS AL QAEDA.
[As the camera zoom out, Senator Lieberman is seen whispering something to Senator Mc Cain, the following is a long shot].

SYNC John Mc Cain: SORRY, THIS WAS A MISTAKE.

[French commentator's Voice Over: Mc Cain could not differntiate between SHIA IRAN - and - SUNNI AL QAEDA].

My Qs:
{1} How many such MISTAKES WOULD YOU ALLOW the PRESEIDENT?

[2} Is the Senator not TOO OLD to become President?

Posted by: index_on_censorship | March 26, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Lucy wrote:

"I must be ignorant....would please someone tell me how you get god damn America out of context of anything"

Ha Ha! Yes, Lucy agreed! How DOES one take such things as the United States of WHITE America and "typical white person" and "god damn America" out of Obama's spiritual advisor, not to mention the filthy racist garbage he stated about poor Nathalee Holloway! Yes, Obama, you can dissemble all you want, but we know you and your racist wife Michelle endorse, officially or unofficially, whether you admit it or not, this kind of racist garbage from the good Rev. Wright-for 20 years-and bring your children to it as well-so taken together, that clearly, clearly, CANNOT BE TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT.

Which means, if Obama is the Dem. candidate, this Dem. is going for McCain-AND HAPPY TO DO SO!

Posted by: schmetterlingtoo | March 26, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

This guy doesnt know whether to be a "straight talker" or a typical GOP nominee. He is supposed to be the "best suited" to lead our country in today's climate but he doesnt know the difference between Shia & Sunni or between Arab & Persian??? This guy was a man of principle in 200, now he is just certifiably insane.

Posted by: areid45 | March 26, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

How can we believe anything Old Man McCain says about international relations when he does not know the distinction between Muslims?
Mitt Romney would represent the "same old, same old" Republic party line on the economy...tax cuts and more tax cuts to help the wealthy.
We are going on six years remaking Iraq. It only took the US 6 years to form the federal government. We have given the Iraquis enough lives, time, money, and attention. Get out of Iraq now! If we wait any longer, Old Man McCain won't remember why we are there. Iran? Iraq? All the same to him.

Posted by: kramjak | March 26, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Wow Dan, you sure are an objective writer, especially by Washington Post standards.

Detect my sarcasm?

I don't think you could have possibly been more biased in presenting or leaving out certain facts. The Post has no surprises left, because we know what we will get every single day: article(s) in favor of only liberals every single time without fail. It's almost as if the Post doesn't even care about objectivity anymore.

Posted by: dcmiller87 | March 26, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Why is it that Senator McCain has no problem spending billions in American taxpayer dollars to bail out Iraq, yet will not spend those same American taxpayer dollars to bail out Americans here at home?
Strange patriotism!

Posted by: brand1 | March 26, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

McCain's Hispanic Outreach person was a Cabinet member in Mexico's Vicente Fox's government and is openly for reconquest of Southwest USA.

Some of his comments.

"I never knew the border as a limitation; I'd be delighted if all of us could come and go between these two marvelous countries."

"We have recognized that the Mexican population is 100 million in Mexico and 23 million who live in the United States...We are a united nation."

Mexican immigrants "are going to keep one foot in Mexico and are not going to assimilate."

"We are betting that the Mexican population in the United States ...will think Mexico first."

McNut,s reasons for Amnesty
McCain's God,s Children Argument!
Then there is they are all God,s children argument(Another McCain favor) well isn't everyone God,s children? If so then guess McCain is saying everyone and anyone has the right to Invade this Nation, waving their flags, demand their rights, while feasting at the trough of public welfare and Kill, Rape and Rob thousands of American citizens each year!

McCain's Lettuce Argument!
There's the "lettuce" argument -- we'll be paying $50/head (or starving)( McCain really likes this argument) if we don't have illegal aliens working in the fields. As Phil Martin, ag economist at UC Davis shows, the field labor cost in a $1 head of lettuce is about 6 cents. Triple those wages and Americans will do the jobs. (They're not career positions. They're seasonal jobs for young people, starting in the world of work. I have did similarly menial jobs.) And you'll be paying 10% more for lettuce and other produce. Do you spend $1,000/year on produce? OK, you'll pay $100 more.

There are approx. 20 to 30 millions Illegal Aliens in the USA less than 2% work in the fields but 43 % are on Welfare. If you count their Medical cost and Educating their Spawn at a cost of 7 to 10k per year to American Tax payers as Welfare then close to 100% are on Welfare that American poor and middle class pay an average of 20k per year so the rich have a unlimited supply of slave labor and the Democrats the Welfare vote!

The lettuce argument also parallels that for the retention of slavery.

Immigrant Argument!
There's the "everyone's an immigrant except for the 'Native Americans'" argument. Well, the American Indians didn't sprout from the land, they came across the Bering land bridge from Asia. So if the criterion is "You're an immigrant if you had an ancestor who immigrated here," then American Indians are immigrants, too.

In that case, "immigrant" is no longer a useful word, since Everyone's an immigrant.

Stole Southwest Argument!
There's the "the U.S. stole the southwest" argument. Well, the land in dispute was "owned" by Spain for a couple of centuries. Then by Mexico for about 25 years. During these periods, there weren't more than a few thousand Spaniards or Mexicans in the entire territory. It's been owned by the U.S. for about 160 years now, much longer than Mexico's reign. And the U.S. has actually done something with the land, made it habitable for tens of millions. As Robert Kaplan has described, the difference between American and Mexican "twin cities" straddling the border is like night and day, yet the land is obviously the same. It's not the dirt that's important, it's the people. Put another way, if culture didn't matter, Mexico and Central America would be paradise.

Illegal pay taxes Argument!

There's the "illegal aliens pay tons of taxes" argument. Sure, they all pay real estate taxes (in rent) and sales taxes (most states). Those working on the books (typically using stolen Social Security numbers) pay FICA and, perhaps, income taxes. But they're mostly ill-educated and low-skilled and pay very low taxes connected to their working -- in fact, most claim the Earned Income Tax Credit, i.e. negative income tax! If a family with both parents working has two kids in school, that's at least $15k/year just for schooling, way more than the taxes on, say, $35k/year aggregate income.

Robert Rector at the Heritage Foundation has done the systematic accounting on all this. A typical household headed by a low-skilled illegal alien is a net drain of about $20k/year for the rest of us, year after year. (Low-skilled Americans are a similar burden, but they're part of the national family, not gate crashers from other societies.)

Illegal Bad..Amnesty good Argument!

There's the "illegal immigration is bad, but make them citizens and problem solved" argument. Nope. If that were the case, legalizing (i.e. amnestying) the illegal aliens would solve the problem. But they'd still be (on average) low-skilled workers whose burden on the rest of us would continue. In fact, once legal they'd be able to access more public benefits programs, so their cost to the rest of us would actually rise substantially. In short, most of the problems of mass illegal immigration are shared by mass amnestying them.

The flood of immigrants drives wages and living conditions in our central cities toward those of the Third World.

- The influx imposes both sprawl and gridlock on our metropolitan areas.

- Immigrant families needing services overwhelm our schools, taxpayer-funded health care facilities, and other public agencies.

- Those requiring services don't assimilate and, instead, expect to be served in their native languages.

- American civic culture frays as each ethnic group establishes its own grievance lobby and pushes for preferences.

- Communicable diseases such as tuberculosis (new, drug-resistant strains) return.

- Shortages of water and other resources loom, especially in immigration-blitzed Southwest.

Most that come across our open borders come from countries where, Crime, Corruption, Poverty, Misery, Anti-education, and hate for Americans has existed for centuries and is normal. Should anyone be surprised they bring those same family values across the border with them?

Posted by: american1 | March 26, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

I think Mitt Romney would be a great pick as V.P. for John McCain. First the economy is Romney's STRENGTH, he was the only one in the race who had success in the private sector. He would balance well with McCain and his foreign policy experience. Second with Romney's family history in Michigan, and the debacle the Dems are having with that state over voting, he could be a big help in stealing it for the Republicans. Third Romney did very well in the Mountain states and with the Dems looking to maybe steal Nevada and Colorado (their convention is in Denver for a reason), Mitt could use his pull out there for Conservatives and Mormons to vote in big numbers. Lastly the Conservative base, especially Conservative radio, seemed to really warm to Romney in the end and therefore he would a big help in uniting the party behind McCain...

Posted by: sovine08 | March 26, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

vegasgirl1, I support John McCain. If you hadn't noticed, most people are shilling for one candidate or another hereabouts. McCain's position and mine are not exactly aligned on Bear Stearns. I said the $2 acquistion seemed fair but would have balked at the $10 the shareholders demanded. He was not so specific. You pulled the "socialism" out of the thin air.

Posted by: edbyronadams | March 26, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

E) None of the above.

With regards to: edbyronadams

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | March 26, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

John McCain said: "the United States has "incurred a moral responsibility" to help nurture stability and political reconciliation in Iraq."

I would go along with that had Bush and the Republican Party been truthful to the public. But whereas they cherry-picked the data, I believe it is their moral responsibility, not that of the United States.

The United States owes Iraq only this: Airfare to Bagdad for Bush, Cheney, Rice all the Secretaries and Undersecretaries of State and Defense, all the Agency heads and their direct subordinates involved in planning the war, plus their families; one rifle will be allocated for each of them plus however many bullets they need for however long it takes them to establish a peaceful country there; bullet proof vests, and the same kind of humvees that were given to the typical soldier will also be provided.

In fairness to Iraq, this deployment will not be optional. Our sense of morality demands at least that much.

Posted by: sjbob | March 26, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Why is McCain selling his soul by pushing so hard on this debacle in Iraq?
Because he knows he has nothing else to run on -- he is clueless on the economy, and while some of his past environmental stances have been admirable, watch that go right out the window should he be elected.
It is so sad to watch this once-honorable man devolve into a major "pander-bear."
Jdalepowers: You are wrong about McCain being able to unite people, not so long as he shills for the extreme neo-con faction. Dream on.
And I'm no fan of hers, but I'll take H.Clinton's economics skills over McCain's, any day.

And to ebryonadams: Are you a shill for the McCain campaign? Sure sounds like it.
(Oh, and McCain is advocating socialism, when he says it's OK to bail out Bear Sterns -- but I doubt you can grasp such hypocrisy.)

Posted by: vegasgirl1 | March 26, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Lucygirl,
Look up decimate. You will find it in a book called a d-i-c-t-i-o-n-a-r-y.
McCain did not say he knew "very little about the economy". He said the economy was not his strong suit. He still knows much more about it than Hilbama.

McCain is the ONLY candidate who can pull this country together despite all you wingers (both left, and right).

Posted by: jdale.powers | March 26, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

McCain would be a great president. If he were put up for the nomination in 2000 and won then I could see America in a better situation then it finds itself in today.

I've yet to be convinced that he is what the country needs going forward. I'm sure that Hillary Clinton is not good for the nation. Someone who can embellish on one event probably has no qualms of embellishing elsewhere. We've been under one administration which was loose with the facts, we don't need another one.

Barack Obama has my vote as of right now. Unless McCain shows me that he cares more about the will of the people, in terms of economics, health care, and foreign policy, then it will stay that way.

On another note I was very impressed with McCain tonight. He spoke out against some close held republican beliefs. This has the potential to upset his base. Ballsy...

P.S. It must irk the republicans that they're only hope of keeping the oval office was to put someone in the race that is so liberal comparably. Makes me laugh

Posted by: adidas12101 | March 26, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Can someone please tell the Clintonians to go to some English night school? Why all the Clintonians that post on blogs hate the English grammar so much? Besides to follow a confessed liar (and she is not even doing as her hubby did yet, when he lied with his hand over our US Constitution...), they cannot write in proper English, ever!
I say: Big Mac is a GOPer with his own mindset and very independent. And that is why he can bring us independents close to him and to the GOP. We were the force behind 2006's Democrat surge in the proportional elections, and we will be the force behind the destruction of the Clintonian cancer, as we will vote massively against ANYTHING Democrat! After the Clintonian's hate-campaign, if the GOP puts a dead tree as representative candidate for my district I will vote for it. And I used to vote democrat, as my district had a very good democrat representative. But now she is leaving, and the Dem's replacement candidate is an evil Clintonian, so I will vote GOP, for the majority and proportional elections!!!! Let's banish the Clintonians of America's political life.

Posted by: mp2007 | March 26, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

McCain is:

A) got his party's nomination

B) making immanently sensible speeches

C) currently on his way to being #44

D) all of the above.

Posted by: edbyronadams | March 26, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Staying the course in Iraq is not responsible nor is a quick pull out responsible. Although I am right of center, the first candidate to propose a responsible exit to Iraq will receive my vote.

Posted by: rick.mccowan | March 26, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Republicans delivered their Party's nomination to John McCain. But he offers nothing other than what amounts to a third Bush term on everything from Iraq, healthcare, judicial appointments, taxes, and more.

Write a letter to the editor of your local newspapers and let them know the truth about John McCain. The public deserves to know the real John McCain--not the media-friendly version that he's painstakingly created for himself.

Posted by: josephle2k | March 26, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Everyone who has ever signed mortgage papers knows that there is absolutely no deception involved. Those who signed made a bad financial decision. They have no call on the federal treasury.

That goes for the investment banks that cooked up this sub prime scheme as well. I backed the original deal for Bear Stearns in which the investors, who bear the final responsibility for how the bank was run getting only $2/share but think the Fed should walk away from the deal when those same investors demand more.

Posted by: edbyronadams | March 26, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

McCain is:

A: Old
B: Insane
C: All of the above

Posted by: jc1201 | March 26, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

ajtiger92-LOL! Ever hear of a Shot-Gun Wedding? ;~)

Where's Cheney?

Posted by: rat-the | March 26, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

The only thing is: Big Mac is going to win, and the GOP will recover the majority in both the house and the senate, thanks to the Clintonian Nazi Party.
Clintonians are so crazy and blind with their lust for power that they destroyed any chance the Dems had to win this election and the others for the next 12 years at least. This one was supposed to be a hard one for the GOP to win, but thanks to the Clintonians and their divide-and-conquer strategy, the Dems are dead before the start. The only thing the Clintonians achieved was to bring the HATE all Americans had against HRC to the whole Dem party.
So, I may not like Big Mac that much, and he might not be my preferred candidate, but, after the Clintonian hate-run, I cannot just go and vote Dem anymore. I feel my stomach upset only by seeing any Dem bump sticker now. And I am not the only one feeling that. The Clintons', and their supporters', hate speech is so disgusting that threw me, and all the other independents I know, into the arms of the GOP and Big Mac.
So, there we go: Dems (=Clintons) NEVER! GOP and Big Mac Forever! That is my motto now.

Posted by: mp2007 | March 26, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Keep in mind that a Mc Cain presidency is free appoint Dick Cheney as his Secretary of Defense. Who better to lead the fight in a 100 year war?

Posted by: dan | March 26, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

McCain won't pick Romney as his VP so you die-hard conservatives like Sean Hannity can give it up. Heck McCain doesn't even like Romney.

Posted by: ajtiger92 | March 26, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Just because McCain is more comfortable with foreign policy issues, or because he has taken a deeply intellectual approach to economics, it is not the case that economics fails to be his strong suit. Relative to Clinton and Obama, he is very strong on economics. He may prize his foreign policy skills more, but in terms of policies that are useful and interesting for the average voter, economics is his #1 selling point. On social issues, he pleases no one, and concerning the war, he is little different than Hillary.

There's nothing wrong with McCain providing a ranking of his abilities. Because he thinks he is better at A than B, does not mean his a slouch at A. That Democrats jump as such an innocuous comment as sign of weakness on McCain's part just shows how desperate they are.

The country neither needs nor wants the Dem's entitlement medical programs. McCain may be engaging in anti-white-Catholic warfare when it comes to immigration, or in some similar shenanigans, but his economic policies will benefit us all.

For further thought on McCain and resources for the emerging right, see my blog at http://emergingright.blogspot.com/

--ER

Posted by: emergingright | March 26, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Hallmarks of Mccain foreign policy expertise:

1. 100 years war in iraq
2. Fight some "other wars"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/27/mccain-warns-there-will_n_83459.html
3. Agree with osama on iraq http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/25/805136.aspx

Posted by: catchsandy | March 26, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

McCain would be a completely disaster if elected. In his own admission he even said himself he knows very little about the economy, this is absolutely unacceptable for a Presidential candidate especially at a time when our economy has been completely decimated by the current Republican in the White House. McCain does not believe in helping the American people that need it most, he is just another slash and burn Republican fantasizing that tax cuts will save the world. His entire economic 'plan' stinks to high Heaven and will do nothing to help struggling Americans recover from Bush. If you are Democrat and hate Hillary or Obama so much at least vote for Nader, he has some great ideas, just whatever you do, do not vote for McCain or you will see and end to the USA forever. There is a point of no return and we are getting closer with each passing day with Bush still in office. McCain means the end for America.

Posted by: Hillary08 | March 26, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

I must be ignorant....would please someone tell me how you get god damn America out of context of anything

Posted by: lucygirl1 | March 26, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

OMG! Why, Davidmwe, :-)

Muy Bueno mi Amigo!

THAT, is TEAM WORK!

ps-Don't teach it to the Dimocrats! ;~)

Posted by: rat-the | March 26, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

However good McCain's Foreign Policy speech was, is just how inept John is with the economy- hopefully he has some key players for the top economic positions- and this time, knows their names- not like in this debate earlier this year;

John McCain's Economic Policy:
http://ronpaul.myfeedportal.com/viewarticle.php?articleid=42

Posted by: davidmwe | March 26, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

McCain is Bush 2.0 period.
Remember Bush 'humble' foreign policy approach in the 2000 campaign.

For all his foreign wars he need the draft back. So for all these McCain voters, please join the army,marines or navy NOW. Anything else is treason, isn't it?

Posted by: timbu_meck | March 26, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Balz-OF COURSE Billary and Obasama would CLAIM to share those sentiments about wanting to be good to other Democracies! THEY, are very GOOD at TALKING about things!

THEN, they get in a room full of fellow Lawyers and plan to cheat on and amend NAFTA!

Congress, is FULL of very Like-Minded Types. THAT, is exactly WHY the Founding Fathers gave the Executive VETO Powers over them! :-)

Now, to give THEM the Executive Seat... :-o

Very, VERY :-(

McCain might not be the Financial Guru or Economics Expert that is needed. President McCain is a Person who specialized in Military Industry-His WHOLE Family Has been in it!
BUT, by having Mitt Romney as his VP, he can proudly proclaim he now HAS a Brilliant Mind!(On Board!) ;~)

Posted by: rat-the | March 26, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Go John SIDNEY McCain, all the way to the White House!!!

Posted by: JakeD | March 26, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

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