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By Perry Bacon Jr.
PHILADELPHIA -- Signaling she is not conceding the black vote to Sen. Barack Obama, Sen. Hillary Clinton touted her plan to reduce urban crime while speaking at a YMCA in a mostly African America neighborhood here.

In West Philadelphia, Clinton called for putting 100,000 additional police officers on the street in urban areas -- exactly what her husband pushed through in his first term. Her campaign, dubbing that part of the plan "COPS 2.0" after the initiative in President Clinton's first term, said the goal would be to cut the homicide rate in half.

"Violent crime is on the rise again in America," Clinton said.

The crime rate has gone up in the last two years, after dropping for more than a decade, and African American voters have expressed concern about the issue, but Clinton's speech marks one of the few times during the campaign that any of the major candidates has focused on crime reduction. For Clinton, touting one of her husband's ideas marked a sharp contrast in a week where she had been sharply distancing herself from her husband's support for free trade agreements.

Clinton was joined at the event by Michael Nutter, the black mayor of Philadelphia who is campaigning hard here for Clinton.

"People want to be safe all across the world, but people also want to be safe right here in West Philadelphia," Nutter said as he introduced Clinton. ... "They're not necessarily talking about Al Qaeda. ... Here in West Philadelphia, we're more worried about al-Gangster than al-Qaeda. Osama Bin Laden and some of those other folks couldn't last five minutes in West Philadelphia."

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so let's research the "Vince Foster," thing...

SEARCH on Michael Chertoff, Green Quest

who is Chertoff aka Jerck off?? he's a paid Clinton hassler now head of the Agency that helps George W. to avoid oversight and have his man funnel money into non compete contracts at his whim...

Chertoff is the Head of DHS the new agency formed to protect the security of AMERICA...and keep out _ILLEGAL_ aliens..

what's Chertoff's experience? nada, that is unless you mean fabrication of charges and obstructing the justice department from following the money trail for 9/11


do yourselves a favor, UN Truth don't want you to do it but


SEARCH ON Michael Chertoff , Green Quest...

your lives and vote count, be grown ups...face the facts, be sure about them, do research.

so AMERICA,


you are buying guns for drug traffickers...


and PETRAEUS is the man inside the government store...


'course he's going to say,

"we [ bushCO und CRONERSTAG ] need to continue,"


he's making book, unnerstan...


he's got your girl liberty backed up against the chainlink fence saying...


"don't look over here!"


you gonna believe him? or knock his MF ing teeth out?


.your choice
.

.
Comment on: Frustrated Senators See No Exit Signs at 4/9/2008 12:39 AM EDT
maybe some of you have forgotten.


Robert M. Gates has commited TREASON AGAINST A SITTING PRESIDENT...who is he? George W. Bushes current secretary of defense...he is a felon, serving a felon.

General betrayed us????

he had 190,000 fully automatic weapons go missing on his watch in IRAQ..."it just happened !!!!"

that have turned up in Central America, South America and Mexico


think that is "by accident????"

silly rabbits !

The presence of Blackwater in Iraq has generated controversy over the concept of an "outsourced" war, using mercenaries instead of regular US troops. The mercenaries do not answer to US military commanders, their conduct is not governed by the Geneva Convention, and they answer only to the people who are signing their paychecks.


A Blackwater camp on the border may be a covert attempt to militarize the border without going through congressional oversight or public debate. A so-called "training camp" could probably also function as an operational base. Perhaps Blackwater will obtain government contracts to patrol the border, gradually edging out US agents and putting border security into the hands of a private army away from public scrutiny.
.....


The proposed training camp is located near

international drug supply routes,

controlled by the Sinaloa Cartel.


The remote, mountainous terrain is like Afghanistan, where Blackwater has years of experience running covert operations.


Six miles from the proposed Blackwater camp, northern Mexico has a serious problem with "Men in Black" who coincidentally look, dress, and act just like the Blackwater people. In Mexico, the Men in Black are kidnappers, corrupt police officers, fake federal agents, or Zetas, a narco-paramilitary group. Although Americans may still be swallowing the argument that Blackwater is a "military auxiliary" outfit, the Mexicans are not fooled about who the Men in Black are, what they do, and who they work for. That these same people are now camped out on the US border, or are somehow involved in border enforcement, will lack credibility in Mexico.

CHECK IT OUT !!!:

http://www.mexidata.info/id1416.html


you might also check this out,


SEARCH on

Gary Webb, Parry, Letter of Understanding, CIA, DOJ

read the letter of understanding. the DoJ gave the CIA permission to drug traffick and use the proceeds.... as if they were


their own to spend on themselves and gay MALE prostitutes...


SEARCH on Victor Ashe, George W. Bush, Lips, bull dog, Jeff Gannon, Guckert, Ken Mehlman Head of RNC, Karl Rove, Trent Lott, ALL GAY


it's a hoot....find out how Karl goes out in FISHNETS sans pants at Washington D.C. Soirees dressed in drag...


.

Posted by: yeah, actually about Vince Foster | April 11, 2008 11:37 PM

Obama does it again.

Now it is small town Amarica on the chopping block.

The Huffington Post Web site reported Friday that Obama, speaking of some Pennsylvanians' economic anxieties, told supporters at the San Francisco fundraiser: "You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years. ... And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

The WP will try and hide this but even they have to cover it.

Posted by: mul | April 11, 2008 10:46 PM

I was confused. I thought Hillary's crime plan was to tell us:

what really happened to Vince Foster;

how she managed the cattle futures success;

how and where the Rose law firm billing records were hidden;

how much money in illegal campaign contributions Maggie Williams collected and carried for Hillary;

how she and Bill could afford 2 multi million dollar houses within a year of leaving the White House;

what was Hillary's actual role in Whitewater;

what was the truth about Bosnia;

what was the truth about the woman in Ohio who supposedly died without health insurance but actually had it;

what lies did Hillary tell about NAFTA.

Now if old Hillary could answer a couple of those questions honestly, then that would be a real crime plan.

Posted by: Truth | April 11, 2008 10:31 PM

When my parents were still alive, my dad and mom doted on the Clintons. I can still picture my dad watching Bill on TV from his recliner. He would be sharpening his knife and every couple of minutes exclaim "Stay with 'em Bill". So my whole family is Clintonista. We love 'em around here. If Hillary thinks 100,000 more police is a good idea, it's good enough for me.

Posted by: John | April 11, 2008 9:33 PM

anyone telling you there is a "war," going on


is insulting your intelligence....any one of these posters talking about war or victory is a walking talking scheiss-struum

IRAQ is OCCUPIED BY AN _ILLEGAL_INVASION_FORCE_ stealing natural resources...

that they will sell to the highest bidder...and bushCO and CRONYs will keep the money ...not share it with the UNITED STATES...I guarantee it...


but let's go forward and talk to a crawford salaami sucker as if he were asking a perfectly legitimate question about THE OCCUPATION :


ROBTAY12003 facetiously asked:
How about a solution to the Iraq "war" ?

A BIGONE REPLIES:

the solution is simple.

since the ECONOMY IS A MATTER OF NATIONAL SECURITY,

we shut down the war profiteering machines impetus to cloud and disseminate DISinformation...false hoods, lies, monkey schiess as information..

we hand control of BLACKWATER, Carlyle Group, Booze Allen Hamilton, Halliburton, Bechtel, KBR, CACI, Dyncorp, and other AMERICAN war profiteering companies over to the GSA...at least those branches in Afghanistan and IRAQ...

and look at the books of those companies...while we are checking the books...everyone will be working at GS-SCALE.

seperate the embezzlers from the books as a first step.


arrest a few executive branch members and put them on trial as a show to the rest of the world that there had in fact been a

regime change.

lock down the OIL, and start talks with the SHIA majority as well as the SUNNI MINORITY...

Paul Bremer had $12 BILLION DOLLARS in cash delivered to him in IRAQ


to pay out bribes...what did "we the people," get for those bribes? or was it just for the benefit of CHEVRON, EXXON-MOBIL, BP ???? if so, I want that fxxxing money back...you dig ??

BREMER also removed the flow meters from the IRAQI OIL PIPLINES so that oil could be removed without tracking the amount moved....UAE seems to be selling OIL that doesn't test as having come from UAE....what's that about?

We could be buying IRAQI oil from SAUDI, KUWIAT, UAE, EXXON MOBIL

and other companies without Iraqis getting credit for that OIL,


couldn't we.

SO WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO SOLVE THINGS?


1. seperate the crooks from the money as a first step and

2. start prosecution of the corruption.

3. renegotiate with the IRAQI people for OIL if we want it.

4. start focusing on the U.S. of A. ECONOMY as the REAL NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE.


and realize that people like:

robtay12003 wrote:
How about a solution?

DO NOT WANT A SOLUTION, THEY WANT TO SELL YOU THAT WHAT IS GOING ON IS A LEGITMATE OPERATION.

it isn't.

Posted by: hello simple tunes... | April 11, 2008 9:23 PM

you mean set Colombian Drug Trafficking back 30 years...


as they join with Ecuador and Venezuela to turn their back on their


Gringo Handlers...

they say Hasta Manana and sell gasoline to China...and Russia


to bad fritoes...you're going to be cut out of the deal FOAD

Posted by: hey pent day holset | April 11, 2008 9:22 PM

Obama's proposals to deal with crime are totally unrealistic, similar ideas were incorporated here in Baltimore and they failed. I support Hillary's ideas because that is what we need here in Baltimore.

Posted by: Hispana | April 11, 2008 9:22 PM

Big Union Bosses...


right and there are purple men crawling out of your azzhole...and now licking youreyebabllse

.

puleeze...this isn't some B Grade movie...in the 40's

why don't you make up some intelligent stuff...

you clones aren't convincing because you don't have enough intelligence to actually fabricate...


you use old material over and over again...


your next post will be about commies and socialists or some such garbage...


what a bunch of emotionally stunted LIARS...


Posted by: hey boyz....CIA paying your salary ? then what are you doing posting disinformation durnig work hour | April 11, 2008 9:17 PM

Great for Hillary because she certainly proves that she is about solutions while Obama opens his mouth to his elitist friends and reveals great glimpses of his total lack of understanding for the issues that matter most in America.

And I totally disagree with the comments here about Hillary playing the race card. So very typical Obama talk whenever Hillary deals with the issues. All Obama can do is talk and it started to come home to roost.

Here in Baltimore we can certainly have some of her proposals. Baltimore is the 4th worst city in this country with crime rates and black on black crime is totally out of control!!! We need tough measures in this crime ridden city!!!

Posted by: Hispana | April 11, 2008 9:12 PM

The crime is that Hillary and Obama are both captives of the big union bosses that can deliver cash and volunteers, above and below the table.

The crime is that they are the willing captives of the radical left that favors what Hugo Chavez is doing in South America.

The crime is that this anti-NAFTA and anti-Colombian insanity is going to set back international trade by 20 years. The reputation of the USA will be in the crapper as a reliable friend and ally.

All you know right now is how pretty the wrapping paper is, without realizing what is really inside.

Posted by: alance | April 11, 2008 9:11 PM

According to Kitty Kelley's 2004 book on the Bush family, George W earned this nickname in the '60s for his skill at giving BJ's to his fraternity brothers. And eventually his clan sent him to some Christian brainwashing program to degay him.

George W. 'Lips' Bush : First Gay US President?
by CONSPIRACY PLANET

(PHOTO: Sir George H. W. Bush, Sr., whose Skull and Boner nickname is 'Magog,' Knight of the British Empire, hugs Skull & Boner former mayor-ambassador Victor Ashe in Knoxville, Tennessee. Ashe was George Bush Jr's roommate and fellow cheerleader at all-male Yale University and was fired from the Tennessee legislature by the Tennessee Supreme Court for election fraud and perjury in 1974)

Is George W. Bush the first gay president?

Evidence of Bush's non-heterosexual proclivities keeps surfacing. Kitty Kelley's Bush Family expose' "The Family" (2004) had noted George W. Bush's homosexual relationsip with Victor Ashe, the Mayor of Knoxvillle, Tennessee.

Ashe, like Bush, is a member of the Yale University based Order of Skull and Bones, and was later appointed US Ambassador to Poland by Bush in December, 2003, after probes and inquiries by Congress.

George W. Bush, who was the head cheerlader at all-male Phillips Academy in Andover, Massachusetts, as well as cheerleader at all-male Yale University has been quoted as saying, "I want to thank my old college classmate (you used to call him Bulldog, we call him Victor) the Mayor of Knoxville Victor Ashe," at the Van Hilleary for Governor Luncheon, Knoxville, Tennessee, Oct.

Oddly enough the fake reporter/ male prostitute Jeff Gannon was also named "Bulldog" on his gay sex sites like HotMilitaryStud.com, MilitaryEscorts.com and MilitaryEscortsm4m.com.

Pirate News producer John Lee (http://piratenews.org/bushgaygate.html) notes that Bush has other gay nicknames for White House familiars --

* 'Turdblossom' for gay puppeteer Karl Rove.

* 'Pooty Poot' for Vladimir Putin, Russian President and Commie KGB chief.

* 'Mr. Big O' for lispy treasury secretary Paul O'Neill, ex-CEO of ALCOA Corporation in Alcoa, Tennessee.

* 'Sally Sxxk-em-silly' for the late David Lewis

Kiity Kelley writes that "George earned the nickname 'Lips Bush' for his skill at giving B J's to his fraternity buddies."

Lee, in George Bush's GayGate, writes -- "Why is Bush so hostile to the idea of gay marriage? Perhaps because until 1987, George W. Bush was gay.

"According to a group of 29 Yale classmates who comprise Gay Ivy Leaguers for Truth, Bush was 'known to be at least sexually experimental throughout his time in college.'

"One of Bush's alleged former boyfriends, Anthony Berusca (Class of '70), told The Dallas Morning News that Bush was 'deeply conflicted about being gay, even somewhat self-hating.'

"Berusca is convinced that this conflict led to Bush's drinking problems, but describes the President as a 'gentle, caring lover.'

"In 1986, the Bush family arranged for George to join Worthy Creations, a church group in El Paso that focuses on converting homosexuals through faith.

"A year later, Bush claimed to be straight, born again, and engaged to Laura Welch (Kitty Kelly in "The Family" wrote that Bush's twin daughters were not his offspring, but from a donor at a fertility clinic).

And what is Skull and Bones? The Power Elite networks of the Order of Skull and Bones and its influence in politics, government, education and business was researched and analyzed by the late historian Antony C. Sutton in his ground-breaking book "America's Secret Establishment: An Introduction to the Order of Skull and Bones" (TrineDay.com)

Confession and blackmail are part of the rites of initiation for the Order, as new members must divulge their sexual histories to other Bonesmen, so they will always be compliant in the future.

Senator John F. Kerry of Massachusetts and former President George Herbert Walker Bush are also members of the Order of Skull and Bones.

It was noted that Kerry, allegedly running against fellow Bonesman George Bush Jr. in the 2004 election, rolled over and played dead during most of his "campaign."

The admission of fake reporter/ male prostitute Jeff Gannon (aka James Guckert) to the White House and his unexplained sleepovers have added more evidence to a Gay White House with wags now claiming that GOP stands for 'Gay Old Party.'

After all, even Republican National Committee chair Ken Mehlman is gay.

So when will George Bush come out of the closet?

Don't hold your breath...


Posted by: yeah, let's let some air out of some lying axxholes tires... | April 11, 2008 8:26 PM

In 1998, Bill Clinton was impeached because of these 10 words:

I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Monica Lewinsky.


In 2003, New Jersey Governor Jim McGreevey was forced to resign over a secret gay affair.

So what about George Bush and this man James Guckert (a.k.a. Jeff Gannon) - a $200/hour gay male prostitute? (See Monday's expose by John Aravosis of AmericaBlog.org)

Sooner or later, Washington will have to ask: Did George W. Bush Have Sex with That Man, James Guckert?

On January 26, George W. Bush called on Guckert/Gannon at one of Bush's rare press conferences, "bypassing dozens of far more experienced reporters" according to Joe Strupp of Editor & Publisher.

I guess that depends on the meaning of "experienced."

This was not Guckert/Gannon's first time near Bush. Guckert/Gannon was at other Bush press conferences and was called on by Bush once before. Moreover, Guckert/Gannon went to the White House nearly every day for nearly 2 years. Each time he went, he got specific permission from Scott McClellan's White House Press Office. And Guckert/Gannon went to Bush's White House Christmas Party.

How did a $200/hour gay male prostitute get near George W. Bush nearly every day for 2 years?

Don't tell me the Secret Service didn't know Guckert/Gannon's background. It took amateur bloggers at DailyKos about 5 minutes to find out Gannon owned male prostitution websites, and just two weeks for Aravosis to find out he was a $200/hour MALE PROSTITUE FOR SODOMITES. I guarantee Scott McClellan and other top White House officials knew exactly who Guckert/Gannon was. According to RawStory.com, McClellan himself has been spotted at gay bars.

So how will the American people learn the sordid truth about Bush, the White House, and Guckert?

The Lying Right-Wing Media (LRWM) won't ask the question. According to those brave News Hounds who watch FOX so we won't have to, Gannon/Guckert's name has never even been mentioned on FOX. Just imagine the wall-to-wall coverage on FOX if this had happened in the CLINTON White House!

But we'll ask it - and we'll keep asking it until we get the truth.

Did George W. Bush - and/or other top White House officials - have sexual relations with that man, James Guckert?

Lest you think this is an absurd question, I'll refer you to the widespread rumors that Bush had a long-term sexual relationship with his Ambassador to Poland ("don't forget Poland!"), former Yale classmate and Knoxville Mayor Victor Ashe. As with every other Bush scandal (AWOL, Bulgegate, Harken Energy, etc.), the Victor Ashe scandal has been blacked out by the LRWM.

I'll also refer you to widespread rumors that GOP Chairman Ken Mehlman is gay. Why has DNC chair Howard Dean been put under a microscope by the LRWM, but not RNC chair Ken Mehlman? Surely a party which used homophobia to "win" the 2004 elections should explain how it could tolerate a gay chairman at the same time as it militantly opposes gay rights?

Finally, I'll refer you to the "call boys" scandal of the Reagan-Bush White House, which made the front page of the Washington Times in 1989. (Thanks Necco!)

Last week, we posted a petition for a Special Prosecutor for "Jeff Gannon." (So far, we've collected nearly 8,000 signatures - please sign it if you haven't yet.) Reps. Louise Slaughter and John Conyers asked Plame-gate Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald to expand his investigation to include Guckert/Gannon's access to secret CIA documents about Valerie Plame. Fitzgerald has subpoena powers, so he'd have no trouble tracking down Guckert/Gannon's clients from his pager records.

Guckert/Gannon is at the center of what may be the biggest sex/spy scandal in American history.

Sooner or later, the truth shall set America free.

Update 11:47 a.m.: Roderick Oglethorpe of The Conservative Voice is asking the right questions:

The bigger question is how did "Gannon" gain inside access to the White House only five days after Talon News Service was established? Was that long enough to run a background check? Did he have inside help? Did an earlier background check only turn up the problem that it would not look good if he were reporting for GOPUSA?

Finally there are the blackmail questions which exist for gays who are not "out of the closet". Was Guckert blackmailing someone associated with the White House? Was somebody blackmailing Guckert or using Guckert's services to blackmail someone else?

"Gannon" definitely got special treatment from the White House. So far the White House has denied this, saying anybody in a similar position could get daily press passes. Refusing to acknowledge his special treatment only leads to speculation that blackmail is somehow involved.


Posted by: hey bush boyz.... | April 11, 2008 8:20 PM

posting the crap about the Clintons is

simply detailing the bush family failings and attaching the Clintons names to them...

basic broadcasting lies by RE_PUKE_LICKING ConArtisisaNs...

aka


as the BJ givers in Washington D.C.


SEARCH on Ken Mehlman Head of RNC, Jeff Guckert, Rove, Victor Ashe, Trent Lott, George W likes it raw, ALL GAY !!!

have a nice time. see if you can find republican morals !


you can't obviously, they post lies_as_a_position

and have the morals of planaria


.

Posted by: whoever the detailed poster | April 11, 2008 8:15 PM

LET"S LOOK AT THIS NECROTIC POSTER:

Posted by: Daniel Duane

Get real--this is Clinton's way of playing the race card, by reminding white voters of their fear of urban black crime. It's her way of saying, to white voters, I will protect you from black people, while Obama sympathizes with black rage. It's subtle, and it's sick.

______________________________________________________


Hello, litlle liar...


you have no sense or shame, ergo you're a republican reframing sense into nonsense...


Black on Black crime is far greater in it's numbers than Black on White Crime in sheer numbers...


plus Hillary was speaking in a poor section of black audience members....there is no connection between your assessment and the events as they occured,

your action is a neo CON jobFOAD TURDLE..


in POVERTY STRICKEN NEIGHBORHOODS, there is no safety...


having cops on beat helps, a lot.


your assessment is pure spin, pure bs, pure scehiess strooom...


you deseve _jail_time_ , as a paid disinformationist...

I would like to see you receive it, and I will work for that to happen.


thank you very much, your DESTRUCTION and ERADICATION OF YOUR FUTURE AS A PAID LIAR is good for AMERICANs and the world.


.

Posted by: helooo cowards....helooooooo liddle liars of no skillset...come and get me ! | April 11, 2008 8:11 PM

Hey,

part of "making the cities work," would have to include

work for people living in the cities.


Factories, manufacturing used to supply a direct route out of poverty for anyone willing and wanting to work....and work was everywhere.


You didn't have to be educated or have great social skills to work in a Steel Mill, parts plant or make shoes...you just put your time in and got health benefits, a great hourly wage and retirement...regardless of color or racial heritage.


There is no such vehicle today. There is not an easy way out of poverty. Without that, there will be no safety. The rise in murder rate is reflective of the drop in opportunity and "meaning down," of the American life.


As more AMERICANS are forced to compete with 3rD world laborers for the jobs....working retail, at minimum wage is not


a living.


STOP OUTSOURCING. The economy is a NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE.


stop "war" fraud.... there is no war, there certainly is AN OCCUPATION....


but since an occupation is _ILLEGAL_ bushCO and CRONYs are keeping the re_framing active in the publics mind... take it away and there would certainly be some people doing time...

and that is a good thing....thus the aversion to letting the people "see what is going on." Keeping up the propaganda stream which

_e_n_a_b_l_e_s_


payment to bushCO and CRONYs


seperate the embezzlers from "war" profiteering


the media is enabling GRANDE' THEFT with their cowardice...

we could deal for the oil or focus the economy on alternative and restructuring infrastructure...


quit spending $720 MILLION A DAY into things that blow up, and see how AMERICA PROSPERS...


take down the curtain from in front of the embezzling wizards of influence peddling, bribery, graft, bait 'n switch


stand up for AMERICA, tell the truth ....


give it a try .


.

Posted by: helloooooooo little hate worms... wanna bite me shills... | April 11, 2008 8:09 PM

Hillary has some good ideas on certain issues. However, the Clintons have shown over and over again, they are not trustworthy and will say virtually anything to be elected.

The Clintons had two terms in the White House, giving them one or two more terms there, will violate the spirit and intention of the 22nd Amendment. Just because the Bush-Cheney administration has often violated the constitutional separation of powers and civil liberties, does not justify some Democrats in emulating their example in giving the Clintons up to four terms in the White House.

Give the American people a break, either Barack or John McCain for President, anybody but a Bush or Clinton.

Posted by: Koreen | April 11, 2008 8:08 PM

"So what about Iraq or universal health care."

Posted by: | April 11, 2008 6:59 PM


LOL - Sorry, I misspoke:

Clinton single handedly enacted Universal Health Care for the entire world, while dodging sniper fire in Iraq, on her way back from capturing Saddam Hussein, and putting out a few oil fires.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 11, 2008 7:20 PM

Records set by the Clintons:

- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court


Clinton Crime Stats:

- Number of individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine who have been convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes: 47
- Number of these convictions during Clinton's presidency: 33
- Number of indictments/misdemeanor charges: 61
- Number of congressional witnesses who have pleaded the Fifth Amendment, fled the country to avoid testifying, or (in the case of foreign witnesses) refused to be interviewed: 122


CLINTON MACHINE CRIMES FOR WHICH CONVICTIONS WERE OBTAINED:

Drug trafficking (3), racketeering, extortion, bribery (4), tax evasion, kickbacks, embezzlement (2), fraud (12), conspiracy (5), fraudulent loans, illegal gifts (1), illegal campaign contributions (5), money laundering (6), perjury, obstruction of justice.


4 more years!!

Posted by: 4moreyears! | April 11, 2008 7:04 PM

(1) Violated federal law when he held Health Care Task Force
Meetings in secret and refused to release documents

(2) Lied in court about the composition of the Health Care
Task Force.

Posted by: Hillary4King | April 11, 2008 6:56 PM

WTF

So what about Iraq or universal health care.

Pol is for adults not kids. Go play in the stock market.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 11, 2008 6:59 PM

Get real--this is Clinton's way of playing the race card, by reminding white voters of their fear of urban black crime. It's her way of saying, to white voters, I will protect you from black people, while Obama sympathizes with black rage. It's subtle, and it's sick.

Posted by: Daniel Duane | April 11, 2008 1:09 PM

typical white person.

How many black Neighbors does Mr. Duane have?

Supporting Obama does not make you cool.

Posted by: mul | April 11, 2008 6:56 PM

BILL CLINTON


(1) Used State Police for personal purposes.

(2) Directed State Police to fabricate incriminating evidence
against a political opponent: Terry Reed.


We don't need laws anymore - they just get in the way of the Clinton's!

(3) Conspired with David Hale and Jim McDougal to defraud the
Small Business Administration.

(4) Was complicit in the shipment of drugs through Arkansas.

(5) Allowed laudering of drug money through ADFA.

(6) Appointed and protected Arkansas Medical Examiner Fahmy Malak
who repeatedly obstructed justice by declaring murders as
"suicides" or "accidents."

(7) Has never accounted for his actions during 40 days behind the
Iron Curtain during the Vietnam War.

(8) Tipped off Governor Tucker about upcoming criminal referral.

(9) Violated Arkansas campaign finance laws.

(10) Violated his oath ofoffice to uphold the Constitution by
signing into law an ex post facto law, a retroactive tax
increase.

(11) Fired RTC chiefAlbert Casey to allow his friend Roger
Altman to monitor and block Whitewater investigations.

(12) Fired FBI director William Sessions to prevent an
autonomous FBI from investigating the Foster suicide and from
resisting cooperation in the Filegate operation.

(13) Fired all U.S. Attorneys to appoint Paula Casey to prevent
Judge David Hale from testifying against Clinton.

(14) Offered State Troopers federal jobs in return for their
silence about Clinton's crimes.

(15) Blocked Justice Department indictments after Inspector
General Sherman Funk found "criminal violations of the Privacy
Act provable beyond reasonable doubt" when former Bush employee
files were searched and leaked to the press.

(16) Appointed friend and now-convicted felon Webster Hubbell to
number 3 position in Justice Department in order to be able to
block Whitewater criminal referrals.

(17) Blocked the criminal trial of Representative Ford, a
Tennessee Democrat.

(18) Appointed a campaign activist to head the Commodity Futures
Trading Commission, without the mandated "advice and consent" of
the Senate, to derail a probe of his and Hillary's financial
dealings.


HILLARY CLINTON


(1) Took a $100,000 bribe, camouflaged as futures trades,
from Tyson Foods Inc.

(2) Speculated in Health Care industry futures while overseeing
legislative reform of same.

(3) Failed to correct false testimony by co-defendant Ira
Magaziner in Health Care trial.

(4) Obstructed justice by ordering the shredding of Vince
Foster's documents in the Rose Law Firm.

(5) Ordered members of the Health Care Task Force to shred
documents that were the target of a court probe.

(6) Ordered the removal of documents from Vince Foster's office.

(7) Told aides to lie about their removal of documents from
Foster's office

(8) Obstructed justice by keeping her billing records, a document
sought under subpoena, in the White House residence.

(9) Lied to investigators about her knowledge about billing
records.

(10) Lied to investigators about her involvement in the Castle
Grande land flip con.

(11) Ordered the use of the FBI to discredit Travel Office
employees.

(12) Lied to investigators about her involvement in the firing of
Travel Office Employees.

IRA MAGAZINER, Hillary Clinton Senior Advisor:

(1) Violated federal law when he held Health Care Task Force
Meetings in secret and refused to release documents

(2) Lied in court about the composition of the Health Care
Task Force.

Posted by: Hillary4King | April 11, 2008 6:56 PM

To Harold Icky - Hate much?!

Return to your extremists cave with the other terrorists!

Your fears will not overcome America's hopes.

Posted by: Loyal American | April 11, 2008 6:48 PM

Actually it's an AP report, CML. I guess AP is biased too.

So now our Great Uniter wants 20 Promise Neighborhoods. Where were these when he was representing the slums in Chicago?

He belongs to a church that has the Black Value System as its basic tenet. It's on their website.

And then we have this:
thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/02/28/its-about-time-sean-wilentz-on-obama-playing-the-race-card/

Sorry, but I'm not seeing a lot of uniting going on here.

Posted by: LMC | April 11, 2008 6:48 PM

Sen. Obama voted for the 2005 Energy Bill, written in secret by Vice President Cheney and the energy lobby. Thomas Friedman referred to the bill as "the sum of all lobbies." U.S. PIRG noted that the bill's "heavy tilt toward big oil companies reflects the influence of Exxon Mobil and other oil companies on policy-makers in Washington, DC."

The Washington Post editorialized that the bill was a "piñata of perks for energy industries." Indeed, the bill contained $6 billion in subsidies to the oil and gas industry and $12 billion to the nuclear power industry.

Although Sen. Obama voted for the legislation, he has spoken as if he opposed it on the campaign trail, criticizing it repeatedly. At a presidential debate he said "You can look at how Dick Cheney did his energy policy...he met with oil and gas companies forty times, and that's how they put together our energy policy." He's attributed the failure of our current energy policy to Congress's "failure to stand up to the lobbyists."

Sen. Obama's rhetoric blasting the policies of Vice President Dick Cheney and energy lobbyists can be stirring. But Obama's actions haven't matched his words.

Posted by: lndlouis | April 11, 2008 6:47 PM

Funny that the Hillary supporters/republicans have to quote "Fox News" to have anything positive to say about her.

Posted by: RealDemocrat | April 11, 2008 6:45 PM

Lol @ LMC - let me shorten your statement to the point:

"And now Fox News....is just sad."

Posted by: CML | April 11, 2008 6:43 PM

And now Fox News is reporting that Tavis Smiley is leaving his post because of criticism he got for criticizing Obama.
"We're so emotional about this Barack Obama candidacy," Joyner said on his Dallas-based show. "If you don't say anything for Barack Obama, you're considered to be a hater."

Smiley criticized Obama for not attending an annual "State of the Black Union" symposium Smiley held in February. Sen. Hillary Clinton was the only presidential candidate who accepted Smiley's invitation.

"I'm catching hell," Smiley said in a BlackAmericaWeb.com interview.

And Obama was supposed to be the Great Uniter. This is just sad.

Posted by: LMC | April 11, 2008 6:31 PM

Copyright Reverend Irving Wright with twenty years of Amens from Barry Obama

While the storm clouds gather far across the sea,
Let us repudiate a land that's so called free,
Let us all be hateful for a land that's so called fair,
As we raise our voices in a solemn prayer.

God Da-mn America,
Land that I loathe.
Stand astride her, yet despise her
With a chip on a shoulder from above.
From the plantations, up to Harvard
To the Jews rich from our blood
God Da-am America, keepin' us down down down.

Posted by: Harold Icky | April 11, 2008 6:22 PM

If Bill is once again returned to the "White" House as executive member, will he once again have interns on his executive staff?

Posted by: Al | April 11, 2008 6:17 PM

I don't know about all this Clintons stuff...


Not only is it destroying that facade of Democracy, lots of people are growing increasingly upset that these criminals are being FORCED DOWN OUR THROATS!


The media NEEDS to stop this!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 11, 2008 6:07 PM

Hillary Clinton is running as Bill Clinton's understudy. They cite his "record" as hers whenever they feel good about it.

I have said from the Fall of '07 (when she was way, way ahead) that having stayed married to Bill would destroy her candidacy.

Now Bill has lost it again saying Hillary as a result of being age 60 has to be forgiven for not remembering she would never have brought her daughter to a war zone.

Too late. No good American can stomach the thought of Bill Clinton back in the White House. He has promised to stop his red faced finger wagging tirades, his lying, his cheating.

As I psychiatrist, I can tell you how people who want to change do it. This guy has not changed.

He would argue the meaning of the word "is" this evening if he thought someone cared what he thought.

But it is Hillary who is proposing we bring this cretin back to the Presidency and for that, she is unelectable.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 11, 2008 5:51 PM

Cut white collar crime by 75%. Put the Clintons and all their little pals and the Bushes and all their little pals in jail.

Posted by: oldman&theC | April 11, 2008 5:46 PM

Maybe if we get enough police we can finally get Bill in jail for sex crimes and corruption where he belongs.

Posted by: oldman&theC | April 11, 2008 5:19 PM

Senator Clinton is so full of crap on this issue. Her husband and herself were all too happy to see record numbers of blacks and poor people being arrested and ensnared by the so called war on drugs policy that has resulted in a record number of people being behind bars and rotting in our atrocious prison system.

Posted by: John | April 11, 2008 5:00 PM

When was the last time a criminal
was the source of a crime problem?


Bill Clinton was IMPEACHED...
Why, you ask? Because he's a liar.

Hillary lied about her past as
a college student. In truth, Hillary was a hardcore Young Republican, she was President of the Wellsley College Young Republicans - all of a sudden all the information on the internet about Hillary being a Goldwater Girl has vanished.

Unfortunately, Hillary was a Goldwater Girl when Barry Goldwater was furious with LBJ for he signing of the Civil Rights Bill.

This is the truth...

Hillary owes her entire career to the Standard Oil Rockefeller family. They are the family behind the Young Republicans.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 11, 2008 4:53 PM

***To All Americans Interested in
Truth, Honor, and the American Way
______________________________


We need to reach out to our peers, parents
and grandparents to remind them of the
practices of the Clinton family:

1992 The Clintons promised to fight for
healthcare for all of the USA citizens.

1996 The Clintons begged us to allow
them to finish the job on the healthcare
front.

1997 Hillary took hush money from the
very healthcare industry that we entrusted
her to fight!

1998 Bill Clinton crippled Medicare.

Hillary is married to America's #1
lobbyist of exporting American jobs.

MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION: Ask your friends and family, 'What has our voting
done to the American Dream?' and 'How have the Clintons hurt the chances of an American Dream?'

We need to be honest with ourselves and with each other...

Obama is our only chance for a shift in the corruption.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 11, 2008 4:46 PM

Joyce- I almost get the feeling that Senator Obama is apologetic and defensive when he speaks about the so called "war on drugs" issue.

The issue goes beyond just the disparities in drug sentencing between crack and powdered cocaine. The issue is a constitutional one and the question that goes continually unanswered is why are we treating so called illegal drugs as a crime problem and not as a medical or harm reduction strategy issue.

Senator Obama, who was a constitutional law professor, needs to be more explicit and forceful in denouncing this unconstitutional, gestapo policy. We are spending approximately $37,000 to house someone in prison for 1 year that have been unjustly and unconstitutionally incarcerated. What a collosal waste of money and precious resources that could be so much better spent on job training, education and urban renewal projects.

Cheryl-You must be kidding me about Senator Clinton. You must be drinking the Clinton kool-aid. I've never seen a more transparent, phony politician in my life than Senator Clinton. She'll say anything politically expedient to get elected. She has absolutely no core convictions except wanting political power for political power's sake.

Posted by: Jeff Owen | April 11, 2008 4:24 PM

Finally a candidate addresses a crime and instead being welcome she is booed by black people. Do they really like the situation in inner cities. How cane you raise a child in those crime areas?

Posted by: Desire, Ann Arbor, MI | April 11, 2008 4:00 PM

Once again Hillary Clinton shows she knows the facts.
In urban areas these are real concerns for people. Especially in the poor areas of cities like Philadelphia where crime rates soar.
This is an issue that is important to all people, not just black or just white. Crime is not a racial issue.
Hillary Clinton is and always has been about looking at the problem and finding a workable solution.
In this Primary she has been the only candidate to come out and give concrete plans, and offer details of the changes she will make and how she will make them.

Other candidates usually follow after her in whatever issue she addresses and Obama goes so far as to repeat her ideas.

I lived in Philadelphia and this is an issue that will matter to a large portion of the population there.

Posted by: cheryl | April 11, 2008 3:55 PM

Jeff Owen...Obama has spoken about that issue quite often. Here, for example, is his stance on the drug sentencing disparities.

Disparities Continue to Plague Criminal Justice System: African Americans and Hispanics are more than twice as likely as whites to be searched, arrested, or subdued with force when stopped by police. Disparities in drug sentencing laws, like the differential treatment of crack as opposed to powder cocaine, are unfair.

Posted by: Joyce | April 11, 2008 3:54 PM

A rise in crime stems directly to a rise in poverty and unemployment. So, Hillary's idea is to add more cops. Sorry, Mr. Bacon...I think your candidate's idea of adding more cops won't solve the basic problem.

How about this idea from Obama's Blueprint for Change:

Tackle Concentrated Poverty
Establish 20 Promise Neighborhoods: Obama will create 20 Promise Neighborhoods in areas that have high levels of poverty and crime and low levels of student academic achievement in cities across the nation. The Promise Neighborhoods will be modeled after the Harlem Children's Zone, which provides a full network of services, including early childhood education, youth violence prevention efforts and after-school activities, to an entire neighborhood from birth to college.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 11, 2008 3:48 PM

Here's some advice to both of these feckless Dems running for President. How about ending this insane, unconstitutional war on drugs that are devastating poor, urban communities and that are disproportionately impacting blacks and hispanics that are being victimized by this horrible policy.

Neither Senator Obama nor Senator Clinton will touch this issue at all. (For the record I am supporting Senator Obama but I would have voted for Congressman Ron Paul had he been the GOP nominee because I feel so strongly about this issue.) Senator Obama tentaively states he might support decriminalization of marijuana for medical purposes but he has been quite equivocal on the subject of our insane "war on drugs" policy.

As for Senator Clinton, she is so full of crap on this issue. Her husband and herself were all too happy to see record numbers of blacks and poor people being arrested and ensnared by the so called war on drugs policy that has resulted in a record number of people being behind bars and rotting in our atrocious prison system. Way to go Bill and Hillary, America's "first black" Presidential couple.

Meet the Clintons. They are as transparent as saran wrap.

Posted by: Jeff Owen | April 11, 2008 3:39 PM

What is she doing for the firefighters? The majority of which are volunteer.

Posted by: WDC 21113 | April 11, 2008 3:24 PM

LET"S LOOK AT THIS NECROTIC POSTER:

Posted by: Daniel Duane

Get real--this is Clinton's way of playing the race card, by reminding white voters of their fear of urban black crime. It's her way of saying, to white voters, I will protect you from black people, while Obama sympathizes with black rage. It's subtle, and it's sick.

______________________________________________________


Hello, litlle liar...


you have no sense or shame, ergo you're a republican reframing sense into nonsense...


Black on Black crime is far greater in it's numbers than Black on White Crime in sheer numbers...


plus Hillary was speaking in a poor section of black audience members....there is no connection between your assessment and the events as they occured,

your action is a neo CON jobFOAD TURDLE..

in POVERTY STRICKEN NEIGHBORHOODS, there is no safety...


having cops on beat helps, a lot.


your assessment is pure spin, pure bs, pure scehiess strooom...


you deseve _jail_time_ , as a paid disinformationist...

I would like to see you receive it, and I will work for that to happen.


thank you very much, your DESTRUCTION and ERADICATION OF YOUR FUTURE AS A PAID LIAR is good for AMERICANs and the world.


.

Posted by: helooo cowards....helooooooo liddle liars of no skillset...come and get me ! | April 11, 2008 2:42 PM

B. Clinton Addresses Bosnia Again, Says Wife Told Him to Back Off

In Indiana Friday reacts to criticism for bringing up his wife's "sniper fire" flap Thursday, says H. Clinton told him to stop discussing the issue on the stump:
"Hillary called me and said 'You don't remember this. You weren't there, let me handle it.' I said, 'Yes ma'am.'"

Posted by: Anonymous | April 11, 2008 2:41 PM

She wants to repeal mandatory minimums now, and boy is that a joke. Months ago, she hammered Obama on that same issue. Look it up for yourselves.

Posted by: Jim | April 11, 2008 2:37 PM

Boy, I totally misunderstood that headline at first.

Posted by: pressF1 | April 11, 2008 2:31 PM

cowardice in a repulsive scammer..


how typical, how predictable...


the lack of intellect an absolute must to shrill thier


dishonesty...


take them down AMERICANS, destroy this evil...

sue the RNC for purposeful disinformation...aka as FRAUD.

class action suit.

.bankrupt them.


.eat their childrens' college funds....give the money to the General Fund.

.

Posted by: oh I see... | April 11, 2008 2:26 PM

LET'S LOOK AT THIS NEOCON in SIMPLE MINDED AND STILL TALKING PLAYGROUND INSULT LEVEL BEHAVIOR SOOOO COMMON AMONGST THE EMOTIONALLY STUNTED...

Posted by: jencm

get real -
I have no doubt that you learned all about your in-depth knowledge of urban city crime by watching network news at 10. A news system that will spend 5 minutes and new summer fashion, 4 minutes on one high-profile crime, and 30 seconds on what was voted on on the Senate floor today.

I would love things to actually be as straightforward - albeit ugly - as you think they are - if only because solutions could be that simple.

The good news is, I don't have to write a 3-page post to prove yourself ignorant - you already did that for me.

____________________________________________________________

hey liddle scheiss struum seller...


speaking of ugly, living as you would qualify as that...


your post is nothing except agreement with the BS ARTIST Daniel Duane...who is most certainly repulsive scammer aka re framing aka out right lying kind of people...

let's get real, I have worked in minority school systems as a teacher...

I have also lived in depressed areas as a resident, and suburbia, and the east coast and the west coast and the midwest and the west and the south...

I have ridden to work with Black or Light Brown people to the auto factory in a cadillac with plastic seat covers and when the other five dark skinned occupants of that vehicle asked me what "white people," thought I replied, I don't know...I'm pink,'

they thought that was humorous...


your supposition as your type usually includes

a strawman within your post is absolutely incorrect...

I have direct experience in the private drama of the disenfranchised and the well off... I'm also Cherokee and Shawnee


and you're obviously a disinformationist helping another shill for corportocracy


trying to destroy democracy and choice in AMERICA by selling lies..


disinformation is a crime, and I _will_ see it prosecuted.


wanna dance little hatewhirm

.

Posted by: get real...little hooter... | April 11, 2008 2:18 PM

LOL! I can just see Billary walking their Beat in Philly at 3AM. :-D

What's that? They Incarcerated WHO?

Allow us to GRANT that "Pardon" they begged for! ;~)

Posted by: RAT-The | April 11, 2008 2:16 PM

While hussein sings "uncle" jeremiah's theme song,"God Da'mn America", Hillary is proposing real solutions to issues critical to the middle class. Clinton's proposal for housing relief was excellent and now her proposal on crime outshines everything else. These efforts demonstrate, once again, that she is the ONLY Dem candidate with ideas and solutions to critical problems.

Weeks after Hillary's economic proposal, hussein came along and plagiarized her best ideas, while offering other ridiculous schemes of his "own". I expect him to do the same for crime. This guy certainly has a pattern!

Hillary solves while hussein sings!

Posted by: ALEX H. | April 11, 2008 2:16 PM

Good for Senator Clinton. She is out in front again. Thanks Mayor Nutter for the support.

Posted by: John | April 11, 2008 2:00 PM

Finally a reason to vote - Crack smokers for Hillary in '08!

Posted by: CrackClinton | April 11, 2008 1:46 PM

get real -
I have no doubt that you learned all about your in-depth knowledge of urban city crime by watching network news at 10. A news system that will spend 5 minutes and new summer fashion, 4 minutes on one high-profile crime, and 30 seconds on what was voted on on the Senate floor today.

I would love things to actually be as straightforward - albeit ugly - as you think they are - if only because solutions could be that simple.

The good news is, I don't have to write a 3-page post to prove yourself ignorant - you already did that for me.

Posted by: jencm | April 11, 2008 1:46 PM

Daniel Duane - couldn't agree with you more. Sadly, I admit to a hefty degree of skepticism with miss Hill... but she has just proved herself ingenuine so many times I can't see anything more than her thinking "they'll like me just long enough to vote for me if i say this..."

Posted by: jencm | April 11, 2008 1:41 PM

LET"S LOOK AT THIS NECROTIC POSTER:

Posted by: Daniel Duane

Get real--this is Clinton's way of playing the race card, by reminding white voters of their fear of urban black crime. It's her way of saying, to white voters, I will protect you from black people, while Obama sympathizes with black rage. It's subtle, and it's sick.

______________________________________________________


Hello, litlle liar...


you have no sense or shame, ergo you're a republican reframing sense into nonsense...

Black on Black crime far outdoes Black on White Crime in sheer numbers...


in POVERTY STRICKEN NEIGHBORHOODS, there is no safety...


having cops on beat helps, a lot.


your assessment is pure spin, pure bs, pure scehiess strooom...


you desever jail time, as a paid disinformationist...

I would like to see you receive it, and I will work for that to happen.


thank you very much, your destruction is good for AMERICANs and the world.


.

Posted by: get real | April 11, 2008 1:34 PM

Whites hate Blacks...Blacks hate Whites...gee one would think this country is still backwards and has made no progress...as I sit here with my black and white colleagues and write this with my mixed self...we say BS...some people in this country are just stupid and always will be

Posted by: Innocence | April 11, 2008 1:15 PM

Get real--this is Clinton's way of playing the race card, by reminding white voters of their fear of urban black crime. It's her way of saying, to white voters, I will protect you from black people, while Obama sympathizes with black rage. It's subtle, and it's sick.

Posted by: Daniel Duane | April 11, 2008 1:09 PM

Hey,

part of "making the cities work," would have to include

work for people living in the cities.


Factories, manufacturing used to supply a direct route out of poverty for anyone willing and wanting to work....and work was everywhere.

You didn't have to be educated or have great social skills to work in a Steel Mill, parts plant or make shoes...you just put your time in and got health benefits, a great hourly wage and retirement...regardless of color or racial heritage.

There is no such vehicle today. There is not an easy way out of poverty. Without that, there will be no safety. The rise in murder rate is reflective of the drop in opportunity and "meaning down," of the American life.


As more AMERICANS are forced to compete with 3rD world laborers for the jobs....working retail, at minimum wage is not


a living.

STOP OUTSOURCING. The economy is a NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE.

stop "war" fraud.... there is no war, there certainly is AN OCCUPATION....


but since an occupation is _ILLEGAL_ bushCO and CRONYs are keeping the re_framing active in the publics mind... take it away and there would certainly be some people doing time...

and that is a good thing....thus the aversion to letting the people "see what is going on." Keeping up the propaganda stream which

_e_n_a_b_l_e_s_


payment to bushCO and CRONYs


seperate the embezzlers from "war" profiteering

the media is enabling GRANDE' THEFT with their cowardice...


we could deal for the oil or focus the economy on alternative and restructuring infrastructure...


quit spending $720 MILLION A DAY into things that blow up, and see how AMERICA PROSPERS...

take down the curtain from in front of the embezzling wizards of influence peddling, bribery, graft, bait 'n switch

stand up for AMERICA, tell the truth ....


give it a try .


.

Posted by: aloha tender ones... | April 11, 2008 12:44 PM

because, you know, Black people are all about crime, right? What is it that Black people did to white people to make them so hated? Did I miss something?

Posted by: marcus | April 11, 2008 12:37 PM

"Signaling she is not conceding the black vote to Sen. Barack Obama"
===============

What an incredibly stupid sentence for a reporter to type.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 11, 2008 12:25 PM

Good for her.

Posted by: JakeD | April 11, 2008 12:08 PM

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