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Clinton Releases Tough New Anti-Obama Ad in Pa.

By Anne E. Kornblut
PHILADELPHIA -- Keeping up her pounding on Sen. Barack Obama for his "bitter" remark a week ago, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton finally launched an ad off the event -- and it is arguably her toughest so far in the campaign.

The 30-second spot, running here in Pennsylvania, features her supporters describing their unease over a comment that has become the focal point (this week, anyway) of the Democratic race.

"Barack Obama said that people in small towns 'cling to guns or religion ... as a way to explain their frustrations,'" an announcer says in the new ad.

"I was very insulted by Barack Obama," one woman says on camera. "It just shows how out of touch Barack Obama is," a male voter follows up.

"I'm not clinging to my faith out of frustration and bitterness. I find that my faith is very uplifting," a second woman says.

"The good people of Pennsylvania deserve a lot better than what Barack Obama said," follows a second man.

The spot closes with a slightly happier message, with the first woman saying: "Hillary does understand the citizens of Pennsylvania better." A third woman finishes: "Hillary Clinton has been fighting for people like us her whole life."

Clinton made a splash with her "3 a.m." ad before the Texas and Ohio primaries, but the attack in that case was implicit (i.e. that Obama was not ready to answer the national security batphone in the middle of the night). This one is direct, and -- featuring people who appear to be working-class voters -- aimed at his demographic Achilles heel rather than his resume.

Posted at 7:33 PM ET on Apr 14, 2008  | Category:  Ad Watch
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Hillary's problem is that the more she goes negative, more specifically focuses her kitchen sink approach on Obama's politically awkward words in San Francisco, the more her pitiful honesty and trust ratings erode, as reported in today's WaPo.

Meanwhile, the "elitist" charge co-ventured with the presumptive Republican nominee seems to remain alive only by virtue of life support by the MSM, notably the New York Times.

Posted by: FirstMouse | April 16, 2008 7:31 AM


This is Hillary Clinton: Whitewater, Travelgate, Monica Lewinsky and impeachment, renting out the Lincoln bedroom, the loss of the Rose Law Firm billing records for nearly 2 years until they were miraculously found in the White House living quarters, removing files from Vince Foster's office following his suicide and before investigators could get there. Her stalling to release her earmark requests from her time in the Senate, as well as her Clinton library donors. Her sell out apology to the African American community (for her campaigns racist comments) which came days too late. Her decline to return $170,000 in campaign contributions from individuals at International Profit Associates, or IPA accused of widespread sexual harassment, and whose CEO is a disbarred lawyer with a criminal record. Lets not forget her campaign eventually returned some $850,000 to Hong Kong businessman Norman Hsu who was found to be a fugitive in a 15-year old theft case. He was indicted for fraud related to his campaign contributions in 2007. Her failed inclusion and diplomacy with congress on her once universal health care bid. Her subsequent surrender and alignment to the health care industry. Her disguise on NAFTA and all free trade agreements. Her conscious vote for war in Iraq. Her blatant flip flop on Florida and Michigan. Her repetitive lies about Bosnia. Her exaggerated foreign policy experience. Her dealing the race card better than Republicans. Clinton photo and prayer breakfast with Rev Wright. Clinton photo with Rezko. Her failure to get the endorsement of close friend Bill Richardson. Her miserable failure to manage her own campaign (and husband). Her charlatan flip flop on pledged delegates and superdelegates by encouraging party elite to vote against the will of the people - "I believe strongly that in a democracy, we should respect the will of the people and to me, that means it's time to do away with the Electoral College and move to the popular election of our president." - Hillary Clinton in 2000

Posted by: Matt | April 15, 2008 8:39 PM

Obama must not have had his writers that day. Talking down to heartland of America.
See what ya get- left to his own original thoughts. Mr. High Society, Upper-Class-A know it all. Cocky! Harvard Law Class Ninety One. GOOD OLD BOY- Disrespectful.
Hillary Rodham Clinton knows how to help us change the problems in America. The right way. NOW- (not after I learn the job)
Hillary Clinton respects all Americans. Has the experience a President needs. A democrat that can restore our nation.

Posted by: jHeckerman | April 15, 2008 7:30 PM

I love the ads. HUSSEIN Obama is nothing but a bigot.

Shame, shame on Obama!

Posted by: Ex-Obama supporter | April 14, 2008 8:25 PM
*******************************************Okay eveybody - 1) THIS IS NOT AN EX-OBAMA SUPPORTER. In fact, I know no one who has changed their minds due to this mess. It is only people like you who re making the noise, and you are preaching to a choir of fools.
2)Why DO people vote against their own best interests? Everyone go read "What's the Matter with Kansas" and then come back and tell me that Obama is "out of touch."
3)I guess the problem is - people just really don't want a President who is smarter than they are.
4)Clinton, eh? Which one are YOU voting for? Bill's not running, you know.
5)Obama will not win PA - he never would have. But he will recover and the super delegates know who they want. I never thought they should have any say, but with so many idots out there (example:Obama said those people are antipathy. Seems to me he's the one who is really antipathy and completely lack of compassion) I think we need them (and him) desperately.
GO GO GO OBAMA!!!!!

Posted by: sheridan1 | April 15, 2008 6:53 PM

GO, HILLARY, AND GIVE 'EM HEALTHJ!!

ONLY HILL CAN CURE BITTER OBAMA!

Posted by: universal hope | April 15, 2008 6:31 PM

GO, HILLARY, AND GIVE 'EM HEALTHJ!!

ONLY HILL CAN CURE BITTER OBAMA!

Posted by: universal hope | April 15, 2008 6:31 PM

Obama has never examined his own OBAMA-BITTERNESS. No one can be as resentful and contemptuously and arrogantly condescending--unless they're members in good standing, for over 20 years, of REV. WRIGHT'S CHURCH OF HATE and PULPIT PROFANITY.

Obama's Wicked Words should be translated:

"I've been bitter for all my life. Read my first book and you'll see why I have this "deep burning resentement for my mother's people." But relax, my Bitterness can be cured when you guys elect me as President! It's the only cure."

Posted by: bitter demo | April 15, 2008 6:30 PM

Hillary's ad is accurate in portraying how Obama's insulting, arrogantly self-referential comments (made in the Getty billionaire's Frisco mansion!)have hurt the very people he claims to want to help!

His logic is faulty in assuming that hard-luck folk are ignorant in not understanding that the real reason for turning to Religion and Racism ("antipathy to those not like themselves") is because they're poor. Then, why are they turning to Anti-Free-Trade and why is this a 'negative'> It means Obama's been lying to them about his anti-Free Trade message all along! Incredible stupidity, based on a Marxist dialectic that dictates all social ills is the result of material resources or their lack. Not true Barack.

Hillary corrected Him:

"PEOPLE DON'T TURN TO RELIGION BECAUSE THEY'RE MATERIALLY POOR, BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE SPIRITUALLY RICH!" Clinton called this arm-chair sociologist's Marxist bluff! For that alone she deserves the nomination. Even though HIllary shold be using JOHN MCCAIN'S ENDORSEMENT FOR HILLARY CLINTON AS PRESIDENT!

"I AM SURE THAT SEN. HILLARY CLINTON WILL MAKE A GOOD PRESIDENT"--Sen. John McCain in Baghdad '05 answering Tim Russert of Meet the Press on whether Hillary should run!

DNC Chair Howard Dean also said "Hillary will make a great president" -- So, what's stopping Bitter Obama and Johny Temper and Deano Boy from seeing the Light. Even Obamyopics are starting to see the Light these days!!

Posted by: mary | April 15, 2008 6:24 PM

shh! really, shhh!!!

I started reading these blogs in the last week to see what thoughtful people are thinking. There are very few here.

These blogs as so full of entrenched flamers, they are a complete waste of time to read. Type if you have something remotely thoughtful to say. All of you who day after day dig dirt and indulge tabloid style innuendo on any of the three candidates' are just wasting everyone else's time.


Thoughtful analysis-fine.

Posted by: ethel | April 15, 2008 4:42 PM

The one like me is the one with the least coke up his/her nose. elistism is an attitude not an SES.

Posted by: Vincent | April 15, 2008 4:21 PM

If people think that Obama is elitist and Hillary isn't, they need to read some of the books written about Hillary by people who have worked with/for her. Besides being a pathological liar, Hillary is a despicable human being.

Posted by: Dirt Farmer | April 15, 2008 4:00 PM

I have basicaly one very important question for all of you who have jumped on the Clinton bandwagon and made an anti-Obama post on this subject. How many of you have actually taken the time to read the entire transcript of Obama's remarks before that group of San Francisco supporters?

My guess is that the vast majority of you parrot heads have not! You'd rather take everything Hillary says as gospel (Lord only knows why anyone would take that leap of faith concerning anything the LIAR says on any subject) that check the facts and make an INFORMED OPINION that is your own! The media has done a terrible job of explaining this story and placing it in it's proper context [anything to help the ratings during the longest slowdown in this campaign?] but that does not excuse you for not doing your homework. The facts are out there.

I found it most interesting that one of you even went so far as to call Senator Obama a bigot. I should probably say at least one of you because that word just caught my eye as I was scrolling down to comment - haven't read all of the responses yet. You are probably the most informed of all.

The background and the context for Senator Obama's remarks are that he was responding to questions from backers in San Francisco who were seking to understand the problems the campaign was experiencing in Pennsylvania. Obama comments that have received the most play in the press (and Hillary's TV ads) was an attempt to explain why the campaign was having difficulty reaching people with their message based on the economy as a main issue. That's where Senator Obama used a couple words that Hillary is trying to create an issue around. The statement wasn't that voters are "bitter" merely because of their economic plight, period. It explains that these voters have been LIED to by politicians for decades. They've ben told that these politicians are going to rebuild their towns and stimulate the economy in these areas; but after their campaign stops in these small cities and after their election, these politicians (like Bill Clinton, George W Bush and Ed Rendell) forget about these voters and let these towns fall through the cracks time after time. This is why they are "bitter" according to Senator Obama, and hell yeah - they ARE "bitter". Who wouldn't be in their situation?

There are some references to race in Senator Obama's comments {now get ready if you are one of those who made the idiotic remark about Obama being the racist}. These were in reference to reports that many of these small city voters in the lead belt areas of Pennsylvania would never vote for an African American candidate for President. What Barack Obama was actually doing was defending these voters from charges that THEY are racists. This is the context of the remarks in the first place! So, why did Obama feel the need to defend the voters in small towns in Pennsylvania against charges of racism. There have ben "implications" from some in the Clinton campaign that Obama would never win Pennsylvania because older, white, low income, lower educated, small town voters in this state would NEVER vote for a Black man for President. Pennsylvania is not the first state where the Clinton Campaign has used "code words" and made such implications. I still recall that as the official explanation for why Bill Clinton would be sent to focus on an area of Eastern Texas before their primary. But on at least one occasion, someone affiliated with the Clinton Campaign actually went beyond simply implying racism. Pennsylvania Governor, Ed Rendell, an avid Hillary supporter and surrogate in Pennsylvania (and a Super Delegate) actually made a public statement that called these voters "white racists". Some of Obama's supporters had heard these charges of racism and were wondering if that was impeding the progress of the Obama campaign in Pennsylvania and this is what led to Obama's impromptu statement.

So in a nutshell, what Hillary is running across the country talking about for days now - at the exclusion of any talk about real issues, and what she is now spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on in TV ads across the state is an attack on a candidate for 1) TELLING THE TRUTH and 2) DEFENDING THE VERY PEOPLE HE'S BEING ACCUSED OF BELITTLING.

What I'd like to ask all of you is "WHERE WAS HILLARY AND HER OUTRAGE WHEN HER MAN (RENDELL) PUBLICALLY LABELED THESE PEOPLE FROM HIS OWN STATE "WHITE RACIST"? She was in the same position she was in when she sttod next to Robert Johnson in SOUTH CAROLINA when he tried to use race as an issue to destroy Obama, and once again when her friend, GERALDINE FERRARO made her own racist comments against SENATOR OBAMA.

Shame on Hillary Clinton and shame on John McCain (has anyone else noticed their campaigns being cozier than 2 peas in a pod lately?); and shame on the voters of Pennsylvania if they let one man's speaking the truth in an effort to defend the citizens of their state from their own governor and the Clinton Campaign become the issue that derails his campaign there!

Posted by: Willie | April 15, 2008 3:45 PM

A perfect demonstration of why the founding fathers tried to build a system that did not let the hysterical masses directly vote or let mean candidates fan the flames of such hysterial. Unfortunately, their plan only worked for two "selections" -- Washington's. Too bad that we are proving them right again and again and again.

Posted by: Dale Stansbury | April 15, 2008 3:21 PM

"Cult typically refers to a cohesive social group devoted to beliefs or practices that the surrounding culture considers outside the mainstream, with a notably positive or negative popular perception." Thats off of wikipedia, so don't hold it to be completely accurate. It's remarkable that many of the comments here, especially from Clinton supporters (sorry, just the observation I made), tend to stereotype and demean entire blocks of voters rather than the candidates themselves. Claiming the brainwashed cult of Obama (46% of the electorate at last national poll) is just as ludicrous as claiming that only retired feminists and covert Republicans support Clinton (44.8% of the electorate). Every time I get accused of being a brainwashed mysoginist (probably misspelled) for saying something that could be construed as pro-Obama, I feel offended. Far more offended than his "bitter" comments made me, by the way. Similarly, I get called an idiot or a warmonger by Obama supporters for saying anything refuting the blanket statement that Hillary is the moral and political equivalent of Lucifer. Neither candidate is perfect (this includes McCain as well), and neither candidate is the embodiment of evil. They are practically identical on issues despite having very different styles and personalities. Both would probably make equally good presidents, maybe with Clinton even coming out better and stronger in the beginning. Obama is probably a superior candidate judging by the way his campaign has been run thus far, and how many poor judgment calls have been made by the Clinton Campaign.

Posted by: Jack | April 15, 2008 3:04 PM


FROM HILLARY CLINTON CAMPAIGN:


Dear mike,

No candidate can guarantee victory. But throughout this campaign, I have made one promise to you, and I intend to keep it.

As long as I have your support, as long as you are fighting by my side, I will work as hard as I can to win.

______________________________

Hillary, you don't get it. I don't want you to *win*. I want someone to *represent us*.

If you refuse to do that, you belong in no office whatever.

If on the other hand, you *will* do that, how is it *possible* you can succeed in *our* objective but by mathematically perfected economy; and why then is it you are not already in contact with me to advocate mathematically perfected economy?

You see, *we* need to know the answer to that question; and therefore every time you and your people refuse to answer this question you register *one more time* that you have not only failed to recognize mathematically perfected economy... but even evaded the critical question of singular solution.

Therefore Mrs. Clinton, *you can't possibly serve us*.

Sincerely,

mike montagne

founder, PEOPLE For Mathematically Perfected Economy and author of mathematically perfected economy (1979).

perfecteconomy.com

Posted by: mike montagne | April 15, 2008 2:18 PM

At least Obama has the balls to say what is the truth. mcCain and Clinton all just sit back and are trashing him for this. I'd like to see them say something contriversal like this.
Clinton- sniper fire remember that???

Posted by: Chrissy | April 15, 2008 1:53 PM

Ron Burkle and Frank Giustra make Rezko look like the tooth fairy.
The Clintons have joined the very few as elitists in the top 5 % of the most wealthy in America- and it is just beginning

(Bloomberg) -- Former President Bill Clinton's decision to reconsider a business relationship with California billionaire Ron Burkle reflects concern those financial dealings may embarrass his wife's presidential candidacy.

Securities and Exchange Commission documents and financial- disclosure forms filed by Hillary Clinton show that Bill Clinton, 61, has a financial stake in three investment entities registered in the Cayman Islands by Burkle's Yucaipa Cos. LLC.

In 2004, Hillary Clinton, a New York senator, said she wanted to close the ``loopholes'' for ``people who create a mailbox, or a drop, or send one person to sit on the beach in some island paradise and claim that it is their offshore headquarters.''

The former president's possible decision to move away from Burkle ``is all tied up with the laws of appearance and the politics of perception,'' said Linda Fowler, professor of government at Dartmouth College in Hanover, New Hampshire. ``The world being what it is, people are attracted to the spouse of somebody with political power. The level of potential conflict is just that much higher with a former president and a senator who would be president.''

Moreover, added Fowler, ``with this particular couple, somehow, the whole story doesn't come out except in dribs and drabs.''

Bloomberg News last month submitted a list of questions to the Clinton campaign regarding the former president's involvement in the three Caymans-based funds. The campaign didn't respond to the queries until Dec. 13, after the New York Times reported that Clinton plans to dissolve his five-year partnership with Burkle, a longtime friend and important fund-raiser for both Clintons.

`An Appropriate Transition'

Jay Carson, a Clinton spokesman, said that while the former president hasn't ``severed ties'' with Yucaipa, he ``is taking steps to ensure'' that ``there will be an appropriate transition for those relationships'' if his wife receives the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination.

Carson, in an e-mail, said the funds are designed for foreign investors. ``All three of these entities (which are related) are organized in the Cayman Islands so that each investor or partner pays the taxes they would owe in their home country,'' he said. ``For U.S. citizens like Bill Clinton, that means he pays U.S. taxes on his income from this fund, which he does.''

Disclosures

The disclosures that Hillary Clinton, 60, is required to make as a lawmaker and candidate show that her husband has holdings in three Burkle-controlled funds -- YGOF GP Ltd., Yucaipa Global Holdings and Yucaipa Global Partnership Fund LP -- all listed at Yucaipa's Los Angeles address. An October filing with the SEC by Burkle, Yucaipa's lead partner, names YGOF as a Cayman Islands corporation and the latter two as Cayman Islands partnerships.

The amounts disclosed by Hillary Clinton are minimal, though a person familiar with the matter confirmed a report last year in The New York Times that Bill Clinton stands to make tens of millions of dollars with little risk if the Yucaipa funds he is involved in profit beyond a certain level.

Forbes Magazine listed Burkle, 55, as the 91st richest American this year, with a net worth of $3.5 billion.

`More Attractive'

Paul Roth, an attorney with Schulte Roth & Zabel LLP in New York, said companies that organize outside the U.S. often do so because ``it's more attractive'' to foreign investors, who can ``make sure they're not subject to U.S. taxation.'' Foreign registration may also make it easier for U.S. tax-exempt entities such as pension funds to invest ``in certain strategies,'' he said.

These tax benefits -- which are legal and common practice for many investment firms, particularly hedge funds -- have drawn attention from lawmakers and candidates.

In a Dec. 13 debate, Hillary Clinton's chief rival for the Democratic nomination, Senator Barack Obama of Illinois, said that as president he would crack down on corporate loopholes and tax savings, particularly those involving offshore transactions.

``There's a building in the Cayman Islands that houses, supposedly, 12,000 U.S.-based corporations,'' Obama said. ``That's either the biggest building in the world or the biggest tax scam in the world. And I think we know which one it is.''

Not Deferred

Roth said U.S. law makes it difficult for Americans to avoid taxes on payments from offshore, though some hedge-fund managers use such entities to defer U.S. taxes on their compensation. A measure passed last week by the House would ban this practice. Obama, 46, was a Senate co-sponsor of the provision when it was introduced in February.

Carson said Bill Clinton's payments from Yucaipa aren't deferred and the former president pays tax on that income in the year in which it is earned.

Steven Howard, a partner at Thacher Proffitt & Wood LLP in New York who advises investment firms, said private-equity firms such as Yucaipa often compensate advisers with a stake in the company rather than salary. ``In Clinton's case, he may be allocated equity instead of significant cash for services rendered,'' Howard said.

Carson didn't respond to questions about whether Bill Clinton receives this form of compensation. Howard said equity allocations are taxed at the 15 percent capital-gains rate instead of as ordinary income, which is taxed at rates as high as 35 percent. He said the same benefit applies to so-called carried interest, a profit-sharing arrangement used by fund managers that Hillary Clinton and other Democrats have criticized and vow to curb.

Difficult to Assess

The realized value of Clinton's holdings in Yucaipa hasn't been disclosed and such stakes are typically difficult to assess until they are disbursed. Funds such as Yucaipa are privately held and aren't normally required to disclose details to regulators.

Hillary Clinton's Senate financial-disclosure records only say that Bill Clinton's Yucaipa assets were valued at less than $2,002 in 2006, while he received between $1,202 and $3,500 in interest that year. In the 18 months between January 2006 and June 2007, the value of the assets grew to between $1,001 and $15,000, and Bill Clinton received between $6,002 and $17,500 in interest, according to financial records filed in connection with the senator's presidential candidacy.

Bill Clinton has also received ``over $1,000'' a year in ``guaranteed payments to partner'' from Yucaipa Global Holdings and a predecessor fund. The government forms don't require lawmakers to specify an exact amount for spouses.

Campaign Questions

Bloomberg's questions to the campaign involved the nature and amounts of his compensation from Yucaipa, why the holdings were listed as Los Angeles-based rather than Cayman Islands entities, and when Hillary Clinton became aware that the funds were offshore. Carson didn't address those questions. Yucaipa spokesman Frank Quintero referred all questions about the former president's role to the Clintons' spokespeople.

Bill Clinton's ties to Yucaipa have sparked controversy over the past year, including a September report in the Wall Street Journal that detailed how one of the former president's aides had helped arrange a partnership with Burkle that dissolved amid litigation over allegations of misused funds.

When he left the White House in 2000, Bill Clinton reported assets of more than $1 million and legal fees of more than $2.4 million. In his wife's most recent disclosure, Hillary Clinton reported that the couple now has a net worth estimated at around $53.7 million.

Both now claim to be uneasy about their place among the richest Americans. This ``new experience,'' Hillary Clinton said during a debate Oct. 30, isn't ``one that makes us very comfortable.''

Posted by: Gennifer | April 15, 2008 12:48 PM

Muhammed Maharesh ,you are an impostor. Put a lid on your trap!!

Posted by: bigben1986 | April 15, 2008 12:30 PM

Barrack Hussein Obama cannot do any wrong in the eyes of his followers. They are so blinded by the light it is really amazing. Obama has created a cult like following likened to that of Jim Jones and his kool aide drinkers. I have no doubt that should obama put out the call, his followers will start rioting.
Obama is in for the surprise of his life. He may get the Dem nomination but he will be buried by McCain and the Republicans who are for now, allowing Clinton to fight obama for the nomination. Then, they will open the gate and the truth on obama will come forth - just like Moses parting the seas. Do you really think that the Republicans will allow obama, the Kennedy and Kerry and Media made persona become a US President? Not in this lifetime. Obama is a liar, a cheat and is so arrogant and smirky, he actually reminds me of G.W. Bush, who still thinks the American public worships him. Well, McCain will be a much better President than this black actor who is a manipulating, condescending, contemptuous phony, who is a hand puppet to Kennedy and Kerry, who lost the election and now will put in their very own to control. The Republicans hate Kennedy and Kerry with reason, and they will never allow obama to be elected. So you obamamaniacs can start screaming that McCain stole the election, or better yet, come up with a good way to blame Hillary Clinton. You obamamaniacs are losers.
Obama and his Anti-American supporters - they will shortly be exposed and all of Oprah's trillions won't be able to save him. Oprah's endorsement and monetary support of this magician have already cost her some of her viewers. Let the games begin - shortly it will be over for this wanna be Elmer Gantry.

Posted by: Bewildered | April 15, 2008 12:30 PM

Lizzytysh ,
You are absolutely correct. Thank you for rationalizing. Some of us just cannot accept the truth when told, 8 years of being lied to and grew accustomed to this status quo. Those who criticize him will not be voting for him anyway.

Posted by: bigben1986 | April 15, 2008 12:27 PM

OBAMA: "AND IT'S NOT SURPRISING, THEN, THEY GET BITTER, THEY CLING TO GUNS OR RELIGION OR ANTIPATHY TO PEOPLE WHO AREN'T LIKE THEM OR ANTI-IMMIGRANT SENTIMENT OR ANTI-TRADE SENTIMENT AS A WAY TO EXPLAIN THEIR FRUSTRATIONS"

Translation -
They don't know any better than to to become bitter, gun-toting, Bible-thumping bigots and xenophobes who blame NAFTA for making them into losers.

Posted by: darren | April 15, 2008 12:21 PM

Everyone seems to want some straight talk, so hear it is . I will never be a candidate for anything, and all indications are that I will not be around long enough to see the end of term of our next president. But my children and grandchildren will be..so my spirit is in no way deterred. I am not a Hillary hater. I voted twice for Bill, and don't really give a damn about his sex life. I was fully prepared to support Hillary for president, but then I heard and started studying Obama. This is the person that I want to lead the country that I love , the country that has been led so poorly over the past 8 years. My attitude was, if Hillary wins the nomination, although I truly never could put the numbers together for her to win the general election, I would work my very ample butt off to prove that thinking wrong and get her elected. HOWEVER, her campaign has been so intellectually offensive, so unethical, so "republicanized" that the truth of the matter is that I would not vote for her. She is a smart lady. She can count, and I think understands that she is not going to win the nomination from the people. I don't believe that she can win it with the super delegates either, because most of these folks are running for office back home and know what a drag on the ticket her nomination would be for them. So why the growing, ridiculous attacks on Obama? This is what I believe is the straight talk part: If Obama gets the nomination, and she has provided enough damage that he is not elected, at 60 years of age, she runs again, presuming herself to be the front runner. Then Pres. McCain (doesn't that make your skin crawl..Bush on steroids) will be 76, and probably not looking at a 2nd term. I think that Hillary is already running for president in 2012, and I find that despicable! The legacy of the Clinton's has been destroyed in my mind, and as angry as I am at both of them right now for putting their own egos above the needs of our presently VERY needy country ..it also makes me very, very sad. I was given the book Giving by Bill Clinton for Christmas, and can't even make myself read it now.

Posted by: WayneP | April 15, 2008 12:19 PM

Well. at least the Washington Post is giving people a chance to vent their anger, dismay and some intelligence in the list of comments through which a person has to scroll for ten minutes to reach the end!
What we as Democrats have to learn is charity for those against whom we are running, especially if they are from the same party. Truth is hard for most people to hear and to accept. What Barak has stated is much more on target than the pandering we find among candidates who are losing the popularity race. It is so much easier for persons to blame others for what they lack themselves. This is not to disparate such individuals for not having had the same opportunities as so many of the rest of us, but Barak could have said with the loss of jobs "people fall back upon what they know best and find the least threatening. Family, faith and familiarity with people and things with which they've grown up". There's nothing condescending about these "old reliables". It's just a statement of fact. What must we do to offer the same opportunities and experiences to persons who find themselves so disadvantaged because of not only their own life's choices, but due to the active and often unwitting participation of others in denying persons employment, health care, an income which allows them sufficient savings each month to prepare for their future and that of their children, to promote a higher standard of living than that which their parents had had. In other words, what can we do to improve the life experiences of all people regardless of who they are or where they live? These are the goals we need to focus upon. The candidate who can move this country in this direction is going to be the next president of the United States!

Posted by: Dr. Donald F. Megnin | April 15, 2008 11:43 AM

So many have already expressed their distaste for Hillary that I don't think my added words would do much more ... BUT I just had to say, enough of her. She is an ill wind tearing the Democratic Party apart doing John McCain's work for him... If she keeps it up he might choose her as his running mate.

Posted by: Don | April 15, 2008 11:03 AM

I am "bitter" I wasn't when I heard about what Obama said...I have been very bitter as an American...having lived through the end of the last Clinton administration...the legal problems the pardons of criminals the people who initiated the current Iraq war,and now living with in a country espousing freedom and democracy while torturing other peoples in secret jails, stealing tax dollars for privatized wars, the deregulation party at the expense of homeowners, the environment, and life in general, the price of a gallon of gas & milk...and health care? And now I am bitter with an explotiive BS tyraid by John McCain and Hillary Clinton about "elitism" and that no one in the Country they fight and campaign for is frustrated or upset or "bitter"...What Country are they from? The old Soviet Union (USSR)...no one there was allowed to be upset with politics and their country as well. If some speculators are correct and HRC is not going to win and trying desperately to get Obama to lose so McCain can win enhancing her chances to run again and win in 4 years is perhaps the most dispicible idea I have ever heard...but not one I would put past HRC and Co. Man we need to change the way things are done around here including the way we elect the "ruling elite."

Posted by: Socrates | April 15, 2008 10:58 AM

Senator Clinton has forgotten about Black radio. If she manages to steal this election, she needs the African American vote more than we need her. If she becomes the nominee. I and many others will sit at home or vote other. I am a 64 year old who voted for Bill Clinton twice, but I will never vote for a Clinton again. I am very well informed, but I am not STUPID.

Posted by: sunni in georgia | April 15, 2008 10:35 AM

Senator Clinton has forgotten about Black radio. If she manages to steal this election, she needs the African American vote more than we need her. If she becomes the nominee. I and many others will sit at home or vote other. I am a 64 year old who voted for Bill Clinton twice, but I will never vote for a Clinton again. I am very well informed, but I am not STUPID.

Posted by: sunni in georgia | April 15, 2008 10:32 AM

Thanks to those who posted replies to my question about trolls. Very interesting. I had never heard that term before.

Posted by: Carol | April 15, 2008 10:31 AM

Hillary on the board of WALMART, which get 90% of their items from CHINA.

WAKE UP PA, she'll say anything to get electer. I don't know about you but it bothers the HELL out of me to see a "PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE" throwing down a SHOT and a BREW

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 10:25 AM

Yes !!! She is a straight shooter. Look at how a would-be-president is sipping WHISKY in the presence of school kids (pupils watching TV. What kind of message is she sending to the general public??? I hope Christians and Muslims are watching her on TV. Could a whisky-junky like this be a president???
Mongozey writes.

Posted by: Mongozey | April 15, 2008 10:12 AM

Pardon me, but isn't Billary sounding as divisive as Dubya?

Hey, listen. I am bitter about a reckless war that drains our resources. I am bitter about a country that seems to want to pull itself apart. I am bitter about a Congress that has not shown the guts to confront some of this idiocy. I am bitter about an American electorate that buys into this nonsense. We have seen what an anti-intellectual can bring to this country in its failing policies. I just think I will opt for someone who can put two sentences together and make sense. Sorry Billary and John.

Posted by: CLG | April 15, 2008 9:55 AM

AMERICA, you are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DUMB, you're believing that OBAMA (900,000 tax return) is a ELITIST while John NeedsACain (tax return not released) and Hillery Clinton (109 million) are not. Do the math AMERICA who's more like you.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 9:39 AM

Hillary doing shots is nothing more of the usual pandering to get votes. Typical Clinton behavior -- say anything, do everything to win.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 9:32 AM

Hey Hillary supporters, remember something -- when Hillary was caught blatantly lying over and over again about sniper fire, Obama said nothing. And despite what some other commentators have said, she went after the Jeremiah Wright pretty viciously too.

The media keeps saying how the two of them keep going after each other. However, it seems relatively one sided. Hillary has become a pitbull. Attack. Attack. Attack. It's really shameful to her and her husbands legacy.

In truth, to vote for Obama because of his race, or Hillary because of her gender, is just as bigoted as NOT voting for them for the same reason. With many issues like global warming, terrorism, and nuclear proliferation this election is critical. We should be focused on saving history, not making it.

Oh and when it comes to accusation of elitism, I think John Stewart said it best (I'm paraphrasing here), "If you don't think you're better than us, why are you running for president?"

Posted by: Reality Check | April 15, 2008 9:22 AM

AN OBAMA CONNECTION?
News reports and now court testimony have linked presidential hopeful Barack Obama with Iraqi-born billionaire Nadhmi Auchi through Tony Rezko. Here's a rundown:
March 11, 2004 -- Obama met Middle Eastern bankers at the Four Seasons hotel in Chicago at a reception hosted by Rezko, who was courting potential investors for a 62-acre South Loop development. Auchi later took control of that project but did not attend, sources say.

April 1, 2004 -- Auchi flew in to Midway Airport on a private plane and attended a Four Seasons reception hosted by Gov. Blagojevich. Rezko planned the event and was there. Obama was not.

April 3, 2004 -- Auchi attended a dinner party at Rezko's Wilmette mansion. Obama and his wife, Michelle, also were there, according to testimony Monday at Rezko's corruption trial. The Obama campaign's response: "Senator and Mrs. Obama have no recollection of attending any such event."

Oct. 11, 2006 -- Charges against Rezko announced.

Jan. 28, 2008 -- Rezko was jailed for withholding details of his finances -- including a $3.5 million payment from an Auchi company in April 2007.

Posted by: lucygirl1@mac.com | April 15, 2008 9:16 AM

great commercial!!! i especially like the beautiful black woman who opened it up.

Posted by: tony | April 15, 2008 9:00 AM

RealClearPolitics (for all its worth) shows Hillary's lead slipping in Pennsylvania to 6.9% over Obama. No wonder she is so desperate to cling to this non-story.

What Hillary and John fail to understand is that people are bitter and afraid of what is happening in the country. I think Obama spoke (while blundering) the truth. Gasoline is closing fast on four bucks/gallon, food prices are high, there is a mortgage meltdown, the credit markets are in shambles, and we are in a recession (despite Bush's denials). Do we want or need more of McSame's nonsense or Clinton's lying and double-dealing on things like trade that ships good jobs overseas for pennies on the dollar while corporate fat-cats make all the money?

PA voters, let end this foolishness! No vote for Hillary!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 8:59 AM

The truth hurts

Posted by: Cole | April 15, 2008 8:04 AM

Hillary wanted her place in history as the first woman President, and instead the history books may well depict her as the person who destroyed the Democratic Party. The Clintons seem to believe that winning is the only thing that counts, and if you have to lie, cheat and steal to get there that's okay too.

Posted by: | April 1
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Destroy the Dem party? My God, it wasn't already destroyed by the Liberal left wing nuts. They are at it again. Another Liberal loser if we don't wake up and nominate Hillary. The only salvation the Dem party has had, in the last 40 years, is Bill Clinton. I still don't know how he got by those dumb Liberals in 1992.

Obama is a liar also. So they're even on that. Don't deny it. He has told some whoppers too. The MSM lets most of his go.

How in hell do you cheat or steal a PRIMARY
election? explain that please?

Posted by: Chief | April 15, 2008 7:51 AM

Posted by: Len Kay |At least Mr. Obama does not resort to lies to justify what he says.
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Undoubtedly you didn't hear, or turned a blind eye, to his Friday interviews before his cover my butt speech, the cover my butt speech, or the interviews after the BS speech. No he did,didn't, and had not heard those comments. Contradiction after contradiction. Lie after lie. No Obama doesn't resort to lies? Lies like a dog.
Wake up sheep. Your sheep herder ain't no saint.

Posted by: Chief | April 15, 2008 7:33 AM

As a senior citizen feminist, I am appalled at the parade of horrors that Hillary's attack machine has lined up against Obama. The Clintons have turned our democracy into a pandercracy. Hillary now appeals to the inner drunk in us and boasts of hunting at the tender age of five or six, a model for our boys and girls to follow! The Clinton and Bush Dynasty surrogates AND Hillary herself practice a predatory politics that eats up the American people to enrich the dynastic families and their oligarchic and coporate henchmen. Bill lies about Hillary's sniper fire lies, Hillary lies about their dynastic multimillions, NAFTA, free trade, etc, and the media let them scoot free as "mis-speakers." Senator Obama finds it difficult to pander and refuses to attack Hillary on her lies. He is attacked for being an elite while the wife of a President who made 110 million dollars in the last few years is passing herself off as a (wo)man of the blue-collared non-elites. Please give the American people a break! Obama grew up the biracial son of a single teenage mother, raised by struggling middle-class grandparents, who excelled in law school on scholarship and loans. He comes from us, from the US, and from the common folk--a son of the peple, for the people and by the people. If we permit the Clinton dynasty machine to manipulate our beloved democracy yet again and to return to the White House for an unconstituional eight more years, then truly we will find ourselves globally falling down the down staircase. Why is the media not pushing her on the crucial issues that matter to the nation? Why is Obama tanking over trivia while Hillary is getting free passes for her lies, her corruption, her monstrous say-anything-to win-but-the-truth campaign? The eyes of the world are watching us. Dear fellow citizens, turn the page and say no to Hillary's tear-down campaign of personal destruction.

Posted by: shirl | April 15, 2008 7:31 AM

I have a HillFatigue. I am so tired of Hillary. Her ads convey nothing to me. It is like the old gramaphone records with a scratch that keep playing the same groove again and again and again. I don't think there is even a single baby on earth who hasn't heard her complains and whinning about Obama's comment.

I am going to cling to my religion and pray to God 'Oh God, protect us from this HillCrap.'

Posted by: Tamika | April 15, 2008 7:16 AM

Isn't this the most significant endorsement Obama could get for voters in PA (or at least that part of PA west of Philly)?

Dear Fellow Pennsylvanian,

Based on the experiences that I have had in my seventy-five years and my assessment of what I think our nation needs to make real the change that is so needed, I am proud and now feel compelled to endorse Senator Barack Obama.

When I think of Barack Obama's America I have great hope. I support his candidacy and look forward to his Presidency

Sincerely,

Daniel M. Rooney, Owner and Chairman, Pittsburgh Steelers

Go Steelers (as a Jax Jags fan, I never thought I would say that!)

Posted by: flarrfan | April 15, 2008 6:55 AM

Hillary wanted her place in history as the first woman President, and instead the history books may well depict her as the person who destroyed the Democratic Party. The Clintons seem to believe that winning is the only thing that counts, and if you have to lie, cheat and steal to get there that's okay too.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 6:54 AM

A much better ad would have been Hillary single-handedly putting out the fire at the Clintons' campaign HQ while taking sniper fire.

Stay in the race, Hillary! Keep the negative ads coming -- they're so YOU!

And Bill, keep running your big mouth! Everytime you open it, it's worth another million dollars in contributions to Obama's campaign!

No wonder the Republicans are salivating at the prospect of running against the Clintons in November -- they're just tooooo easy!

Posted by: nads1 | April 15, 2008 6:53 AM

Hillary and Bill bought their first house in Arkansas for 25,000 and it was 900 sqf. They are still on record as being the poorest family to enter the White House. As for Obama; I don't know many single mothers who can travel Asia, learn three languages, and leave their child in Hawaii with the grandparents. Obama- Wealthy to Rich. Clintons- Rags to Riches. Yes, Obama is a snob.

Posted by: Jeff In Illinois | April 15, 2008 6:52 AM

I am so worn out with Hillary.

Posted by: Sarah | April 15, 2008 6:26 AM

Hillary is such a great humanitarian. The most pertinent example is when she urged her husband to bomb serbia to stop the violence in Kosovo. Except instead of focusing on the people who were doing the fighting, her faithful attacked innocent civilians. Essentially, Hillary blamed innocent people for the crimes of Milosevic and his cronies. What a humanitarian she is. Instead of learning from this mistake, she is cavorting with the same people: Wesley Clark, Richard Holbrook, and Madeline Albright. These people collectively were responsible for the deaths of over 3 thousand civilians and the ruin of the environment in the Balkans. WHat a humanitarian she is.

Posted by: daniel | April 15, 2008 6:22 AM

Arrogant Obama needs his wife to "remind him" that he's not perfect. WHew. How's that for arrogant? He really sees himself as the Savior. There has always been something cult-like about the Obama campaign and I'm not going anywhere near it.

Melinda Henneberger, a veteran journalist who writes for Slate and has been in love with Obama for months, wrote a couple days ago about how the small town remark brought her out of the trance. Interesting article....

Posted by: LIzzie | April 15, 2008 6:21 AM

Man some of you Obama supporters whining about this are just wimps. Obama talked down to people and insulted them while flat out lying about the Clinton Administration being the cause and you have the AUDACITY to whine now that she's responded. Oh teh noes, can't vote for a woman that won't sit back and be a punching bag for your messiah. How about for once getting upset that OBAMA MADE these statements all on his own? Not only did he slander small town voters calling them bible thumping, gun toting, racists -- he flat out lied about the Clinton Administration leaving them behind.

Here are some highlights from Clinton/Gore accomplishments in PA:

EXPANDING ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL

* Unemployment Down to 4.1%: The unemployment rate in Pennsylvania has declined from 7.3% to 4.1% since 1993.
* 503,600 New Jobs: 503,600 new jobs have been created in Pennsylvania since 1993 -- an average of 71,096 jobs per year. In contrast, an average of 500 jobs were lost each year under the previous administration.
* 486,300 New Private Sector Jobs: Since 1993, 486,300 new private sector jobs have been created--an average of 68,654 jobs per year, compared to an average loss of 2,325 private sector jobs per year in the previous administration.
* 43,600 New Construction Jobs: 43,600 construction jobs have been created in Pennsylvania since 1993 -- an average of 6,155 jobs per year. In contrast, an average of 8,775 construction jobs were lost each year during the previous administration.
* Poverty Has Fallen: Nationally, the poverty rate has fallen from 15.1% in 1993 to 12.7% in 1998. In Pennsylvania, the poverty rate has fallen from 13.2% in 1993 to 11.2% in 1998 -down 2.0% under President Clinton. [Census Bureau]

For a whole lot more go here:

http://clinton3.nara.gov/WH/Accomplishments/states/Pennsylvania.html

Posted by: jb | April 15, 2008 6:19 AM

Where I live, this is a serious issue and a serious campaign for the Democrats. Most of the people I know who support Hillary will certainly vote for McCain in the fall if Obama gets the nomination. I fear the Dems will lose all the swing states. Obama has not done one thing to try to bring the party together even though he has enjoyed a lead in recent weeks. He's so arrogant. An Obama fundraiser called last week and told me to "get with the program" because Obama was going to win. Huh??? Is that the way to win over a voter???

Posted by: PA Woman | April 15, 2008 6:14 AM

Obama deserves every hit from Hillary that she can muster.

Bring it on, Hill!

Posted by: dennis | April 15, 2008 6:13 AM

Seriously, JakeD. Your morbid desire to jump on every recent article to post your comment demonstrates once again what I have thought all along. That is, you are a sad, sad individual whose only claim to fame or perceived accomplishment posting "anonymous" comments to cut down Barack Obama. Hmm...sounds like someone is overcompensating. Good luck to you, JakeD. I hope you finally resolve your childhood issues of abandonment and failure.

Posted by: Alex | April 15, 2008 5:46 AM

Jack said, in defending Obama supporters,"Is half the country really made up of sheep that can be swept behind a charismatic speaker?"

Bush, not even a charismatic speaker, somehow convinced half the country he was telling us truths even though the lie of what he pretended to be in 2000 was right before our eyes. And amazingly, I am finding that a LOT of the people who I know who plan to vote for Obama also voted in 2000 for Bush!

(By the way, on your question, ever been to Germany)?

Posted by: dyinglikeflies | April 15, 2008 5:42 AM

Sorry that the Obamaniacs are in a tizzy of victimization on this issue, but the comments of The One were deliberate, well chosen, and over-the-top arrogant. It is a window into his soul. He shouldn't be president-at least not of this country. He is not one of us, nor will he allow himself to be (except at a bowling alley photo-op).

Posted by: dyinglikeflies | April 15, 2008 5:35 AM

Time Magazine, November 28, 2007 entitled: "Immigration: the hottest issue" by Joe Klein.

In the article Senator Clinton is quoted by Mr. Klein:

"During the 1990s, I cannot remember being asked about immigration... Why? Because the economy was working... And average Americans didn't have to go around looking for someone to blame."

What exactly is Hillary saying about "average Americans" in this statement?

People are going through Hillary's statements in the last 8 years with a fine-toothed comb and its only a matter of time before there's a tape of her saying what Obama said in a different time and place.

On a number of forums, more than 90% of people identifying as Democrats, are outraged by Hillary's attack ad on Obama. This is unusual and statistically significant in the back-and-forth between their fans. Senator Clinton crossed a line by putting up voters to directly and expressly attack her Democrat opponent (with some distortion of his words). That's seldom done, even by Republicans.

Some superdelegates are furious with her for doing it and in return, they'll give her Florida after she wins Pennsylvania but Obama will get a flood of superdelegate endorsements that basically force her to wind down her campaign because she'll need primary victories of 75%+ in some of the remaining races.

Michigan will remain unresolved but will eventually be split 50/50. Clinton played a bad strategy hand, especially today and she has accelerated decision- making in the party.

I've said too much.

Posted by: Asja | April 15, 2008 5:13 AM

I am not here to defend Obama but I think Mrs Clinton is disingenuous and uncharitable in attacking Obama over what seems like a careless statement blown out of proportion by the media. If someone need to be cautious in this campaign, I think that it is Hillary rather than anyone else. Not even McCain need fear her if it comes to playing it rough.

The story of her life looks indeed like a fairy tale. She started as a segregationist supporter (Goldwater), then switched over to the Clintocrat where they practised the art of destruction of percieved opponents at the cost of lives and misery to their entourage. Then the exaggerations of her records, the Bosnia sniper story, the pregnant woman who died because she was turned back by the hospital, the NAFTA double speak, whitewater etc and the list goes on and on. In fact, her cupboard is overflowing with skeletons.

What Obama said is not only accurate but it is shared all over the world. This is to the effect that 'rudderless' people do tend to take solace in taking the wrong course simply beacuse they lack the job or vocation that could have shield them away from evil thoughts and crimes. This is not an elitist statement at all but a truism.

Obama does not need to say this for all of us to know that people without education are misled to be sect members, religious bigots, criminals, haters and zenophobes. You are all living witnesses to the rescue of 400 women by the FBI from the hand of a mischievous polygamist only last week. It was reported that most of the young women lack education and that they consider the outside world hostile.

It is also true that majority of racists and anti-semites belong to rag tag of the society. Many active members of the Ku Klux Klan according to court records are normal people who for lack of focus in their lives deviate to being monsters. Die hard religious terrorists are also misled into thinking that they need to hurt us all to protect their religion.

Zenophobes on the other hand can belong to any class depending on their perceived fear. Some believe immigrants will snatch jobs from the natives and some ignorantly believe that immigrants have no value except to spread disease and indulge in crimes. Many gun owners sincerely believe that they need to carry gun in self defence in case they are mugged. What they fail to understand, however, is the fact that easy access to guns can only bring sorrow and disaster as we wont to see in the United States. We have heard stories of rise in crimes against immigrants perpetrated by those who became bitter about what they see as the invidious influence of immigrants in their neighbourhood.

Consider also the case of those who kill doctors in the name of the unborn child. Are they not bitter, you think? If they aren't, how can you then explain their logic of saving one life by snuffing out 10?

The Mafia and the Colombian drug barons costantly tapped into the pool of unfortunate boys and girls from the slums to unleash their deadly trade on the society. The point is that some, if not all of the recruits are bitter about their state in life hence they fall easy prey to the hands of criminal gangs who use them to carry out hideous acts without feeling any remorse.

When Timothy McViegh bombed Oklahoma killing 187 federal employees in 1996 or so, the only logical reason that he gave for his act was that he was bitter about the FBI's raid on the Davidian sect. Have we all forgotten this?

Posted by: slyfas | April 15, 2008 4:39 AM

ahhh...the scent of Mr. Carville is certainly in the air...
Obama will wait a few more days and then give the green light to launch a few spot-on ads of his own that will illuminate Hillary's weak underbelly. Obama may have uttered some ill-advised and uncomfortable truths about ourselves but, ultimately, they will are truths. Hillary generates self-serving hyperbole regarding her career, accomplishments and life experiences.

Posted by: thorn | April 15, 2008 4:37 AM


obama has summarized the plight of the NEGLECTED people of this country...

YES, they are bitter. and why SHOULDN'T they be? they were IGNORED BY THE FIRST BUSH.. they were IGNORED BY BILL CLINTON..

so, is it surprising that hillary wants to drag down obama yet again in the mud to discredit him?????

LOL

if you want to know something.. why don't you ask hillary why she MADE UP A LIE ABOUT GETTING SHOT AT BY SNIPERS AT AN AIRPORT....

that was just a FLAGRANT LIE...

do you WANT A PRESIDENT THAT LIES????

haven't you had ENOUGH of george bush lying to you????

THINK PEOPLE... THINK.

Posted by: BOB | April 15, 2008 3:19 AM


obama has summarized the plight of the NEGLECTED people of this country...

YES, they are bitter. and why SHOULDN'T they be? they were IGNORED BY THE FIRST BUSH.. they were IGNORED BY BILL CLINTON..

so, is it surprising that hillary wants to drag down obama yet again in the mud to discredit him?????

LOL

if you want to know something.. why don't you ask hillary why she MADE UP A LIE ABOUT GETTING SHOT AT BY SNIPERS AT AN AIRPORT....

that was just a FLAGRANT LIE...

do you WANT A PRESIDENT THAT LIES????

haven't you had ENOUGH of george bush lying to you????

THINK PEOPLE... THINK.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 3:19 AM

Hillary sounds so desperate, sorry all you are doing is turning more voters to Obama with this hate ad. Two months ago, I was unsure of who I would vote for, now there is no doubt it will be Obama.

Posted by: richard in chandler az | April 15, 2008 3:00 AM

McCain/Clinton GOP '08!!!!

("John, I'll be your wingman ANYTIME...")

Posted by: Scribbly | April 15, 2008 2:59 AM

Clinton who? Didn't she lose like 6 weeks ago now?

Posted by: fredo | April 15, 2008 2:56 AM

Obama spoke the truth. Good for him. Walmart-dominated smalltown America is horrible: religiously fundamentalist, homophobic, gun-loving, prejudiced, fearful of change. In other words, typical Hillary supporters. She is welcome to them. I wouldn't set foot in a small town.

Posted by: Bitter_Liberal | April 15, 2008 2:54 AM

The really unfunny thing is that this new Clinton ad confirms the bitterness statement. Clinton, herself, is using these voters for her own ends. She IS Bitter! She appeals to the very "worst" in people. The very worst.

Posted by: Ollie | April 15, 2008 2:44 AM

Yes, the Clintons are wealthy...um, duh? It's not like they've been idle since their days in the White House. Generally, when people (especially those that are already famous) write best-selling books, they make a lot of money. And? How does money make someone "elitist?" Elitist is not a measure of how much money one makes. Rather, it is an attitude of superiority. I know many very wealthy folks who also happen to be very generous and actively support their communities, and do so without judging or looking down on the people they are helping.

I've heard vague references to Obama doing community work and stuff, but no details, and NO ONE coming forward exclaiming that thanks to him, their lives are better. What sort of philanthropic efforts has he championed? What has he ever done for Anyone at all?

Obama was way out of line with his comments in San Francisco, and I don't see why it's such a problem that this is reported to the public. People need to know more about him before they vote for him and later regret it.

Posted by: Thinking | April 15, 2008 2:35 AM

From the political mentor of Hillary Clinton, Saul Alinsky.

She learned his tactics well.

Alinski devised and proved thirteen tactical rules for use against opponents vastly superior in power and wealth ...

1. Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.

2. Never go outside the experience of your people.

3. Wherever possible go outside of the experience of the enemy.

4. Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules.

5. Ridicule is man's most potent weapon.

6. A good tactic is one that your people enjoy.

7. A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.

8. Keep the pressure on.

9. The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.

10. Major premise for tactics is development of operations that will maintain constant pressure upon the opposition.

11. If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside.

12. The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.

13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

The real action is in the enemy's reaction. The enemy properly goaded and guided in his reaction will be your major strength. Tactics, like life, require that you move with the action."

"Agitate + Aggravate + Educate + Organize"

Location - http://www.gn.apc.org/pmhp/activism/salinsky.htm

This 'memo' seems to be playing out just as outlined ever since the Clintons, Carville and the like came to town.

From the Free Republic.com

Posted by: Rachel | April 15, 2008 2:29 AM

comparing to lier,a wrongspeaking is nothing.
hillary is really intolerate.

Posted by: jeff shawn | April 15, 2008 2:29 AM

Hmmmm...Obama the "hope of America" and Clinton the "I've spent my whole life helping others". Time for another round of fact-checking and obervation.

Obama: Shrewd and calculating politician. Is not a messiah, a god, or really even a new brand of politician, unless emerging from my home city of Chicago can be called "new" due to the corruption and hard-fisted politics inherent in the city. Honestly believes in his message, and will probably do everything he can to carry it out if elected. However, dont expect him to live by his creed on the journey there. Personal beliefs and political instinct are two seperate things that dont go side by side and certainly dont help Obama when he is held to the higher standard he has set for himself. Case in point is his positioning to reverse on public financing, despite being agreed to by John McCain and being part of his message to "take money out of politics". On a personal note, if Obama doesnt accept public financing in the general election, I'll probably vote for McCain.

Clinton: I believe in the Lockeian philosophy of self-interest, so dont hate me for what I'm about to say. Hillary Clinton has only ever served herself and her own beliefs. She has certainly done good in serving those beliefs, in particular her support for women's rights as First Lady, but everything has always taken second place to her own ambition. In observing her record I am hard-pressed to find evidence to the contrary. While she maintained a respectable and effective term as Senator, this campaign has brought back the worst in her. In keeping with the subject of this article, I would like to comment on her discussion of Obama's condescension to American voters. Earlier in the campaign, it was Clinton who completely dismissed all small states and caucus states, declaring the latter undemocratic, and stating that the former "dont really matter in a general election." I have switched back and forth on which candidate to support, settling on Obama u ntil recently during the Rev. Wright issue and public financing issue. Her comments that Obama supporters have been duped by eloquent speeches and aren't looking at the issues was even more condescending than his recent comments. Is half the country really made up of sheep that can be swept behind a charismatic speaker? Considering that I have never listened to an Obama speech, I highly doubt it.

Just another set of observations with the aim of doing my small part to bring this monumental primary discussion just a bit closer to the always-present gray matter that defines any political discussion. I hope the black-and-whites out there will consider that.

Posted by: Jack | April 15, 2008 2:11 AM

The Clintons are just low down political deceivers. Always were and always will be. They will try and destroy anyone's character in order to get elected.

I wouldn't vote for a Clinton to be my dog catcher.

It is just inconceivable that any rational person would want that loathsome couple back in the White House for another eight years. They were impeached last time- and should have been convicted. Slick Willy and his pollyanna sidekick do not deserve another chance in the preidency of our great country.

What a dirty bunch they are.

This is coming from a life long Democrat.

Why has Hillary gotten a pass for trashing Al Gore and John Kerry in last nights Compassion Forum?

There is just no limit to how low the Clintons will stoop.

Hopefully the media will step up to the plate this time- as they should have in 1992 when all the signals coming out of Arkansas were pointing to who these people actually were. I surely do not want either one of them answering that phone at 3 AM or at any other time.

Posted by: Eva | April 15, 2008 2:02 AM

What Republican crap.

Hillary is in touch with Karl Rove's playbook. She'll do anything, twist anything to win. And then it would be all about the Clintons for eight years, more of the soap opera.

Obama is honest, has integrity, is genuine. Hillary is a mixed bag. I hate the way she campaigns. Barack would bring more change, and bring more people together.

This kind of destructive, fake politics sickens me.

Posted by: Adrian near Seattle | April 15, 2008 2:00 AM

I believe I finally found Hillary's campaign strategy. This was written by Ben Smith and Avi Zenilman on April 14, 2008 in Politico.com
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"When someone is beating you over the head with a hammer, don't sit there and take it," then-Gov. Clinton told Time magazine. "Take out a meat cleaver and cut off their hand."
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Certainly sounds like a Clinton campaign strategy to me. Now if Senator Obama can learn how to effectively apply it to Hillary, this primary season should be over shortly.

Posted by: New Era | April 15, 2008 1:59 AM

Shrillary accuses Obama of elitism.
I wonder what Washingtonians coping with that school system thought about her precious kid being packed off to the elitist, rich-kids' Friends School?
Now, the Imperial Princess is working for a hedge fund. Wonder if she spends a lot of time hunting and knocking back shots?
The hypocrisy of the Clinton dynasty is shrillarious!.

Posted by: Egbert | April 15, 2008 1:56 AM

This race really boils down to - do you want a Clinton (Hilary) or a Bush (McCain/Obama) in the White House?

Posted by: Sarah, Michigan | April 15, 2008 1:37 AM

Sarah Sarah Sarah. That was really an interesting comparison. A tad idiotic though, I mean considering Hillary voted for Bush's War and is campaigning straight out of the Bush republofascist playbook. For the sake of consistency, are you sure you don't want to add a clever gratuitous latte liberal slam or middle name insult to your post?

Posted by: Michael G. | April 15, 2008 1:53 AM

Could someone please explain to me what the term troll means in the context of these blogs?

Posted by: Carol | April 15, 2008 1:27 AM

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The term is intended to be highly offensive to the person so identified. It means someone who merely cuts and pastes responses ---over and over again in the message thread. Or someone who merely attacks --with no interest in intellectual discourse on the subject. A troll is usually quickly recognized by the fact that he/she justs posts and posts and posts the same message or small series of messages over and over and over.

I could name a few ---but that would just start another series of blathering retorts that have absolutely nothing to do with this blog.

Posted by: GandalftheGrey | April 15, 2008 1:48 AM

Michael G: Don't attack our little svreader. After all, he/she/it cannot help herself/himself/itself. If you read his/her/its profile and history of postings, you will understand her/his/its problem. As svreader states:

1. A corporate leader and founder of a company in Silicon Valley;

2. A multi-millionaire who sold his/her/its company for millions;

3. A retired multi-millionaire who cares for the poor; or

4. A college student with no health insurance;

5. A conservative Republican until the 2000 election and now a liberal Democrat;

6. A lover of Al Gore;

7. Owner of a Prius;

8. Has several grandchilden: or

9. Never had any children of his/her/its own;

9. Author of many scientific articles; or

10. Knows how to xerox science articles from Time and Newsweek;

11. Supports Obama as Hillary's vice president; or

12. Obama is a Muslim terrorist who allowed hundreds to freeze to death in Chicago;

13. Obama is super intelligent; or

14. Obama is a con-man;

15. svreader says he has been threatened and has taken a low profile; or

16. svreader is smoking too much of what Obama said he smoked when Obama was a teenager;

17. svreader will not address who Huma Abedin is and what her relationship is to Hillary;

18. etc, etc, etc, etc, etc

Michael G., you have to admit that svreader comes up with the funniest and most inane postings. A real Iowa treasure.

Posted by: Huma Huma | April 15, 2008 1:45 AM

Could someone please explain to me what the term troll means in the context of these blogs?

Posted by: Carol | April 15, 2008 1:27 AM

A troll is a miserable pathetic person that spends its time continuously posting boring lies, smears, and other poisonous garbage on blogs in support of republicans and other similarly nasty creatures.

See john and iowatreasures above for current examples.

Posted by: Michael G. | April 15, 2008 1:44 AM

Don't you love it. Ed G. can say, in the same post, that Obama is the divisive candidate and "Democrats for Hillary will never vote for OBAMA. period!" Without irony. Straight up.

You have to wonder what sort of gelatinous swirl of emotion gets piled up into this shaky facsimile of conviction.

Posted by: J. Myers | April 15, 2008 1:42 AM

Obama's statements on this topic were broadcast on national television in November, 2004. See the clip from the Charlie Rose show by merely googling the following topic, - "Barack Obama on Rural and Working Class America, Circa 2004"

or, by clicking on this link - http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=6oGF3cyHE7M

just the best three minutes in Obama's story -- what do you have to lose? 3-minutes.
4/15/2008 1:38:13 AM

Posted by: GandalftheGrey | April 15, 2008 1:42 AM

after the dust settles,
obama will definitely be in a stronger positions and ready to defeat mccain my a wide margin.

Posted by: eljefejesus | April 15, 2008 1:41 AM

The Clintons are stooping to Rove-like ads. She ought to be thrown out of the Democratic Party. Shame!

Posted by: thebob.bob | April 15, 2008 1:38 AM

Today I had an awesome day doing some marketing and I am feeling pretty darned good. It's nice to come onto the Post and see some comic relief.

Hillary supporter must have VERY SHORT memories. Know body has MISSPOKEN as much as she has, yet so many seem to forget.

So, HRC jumps on a comment and POOF! All of her mis-spoken deeds go away?

Can somebody help me out here?

Anyone? Anyone?

The rest of the world is laughing at us. I can't even tease my Canadian girlfriend about politics in Canada these days.

We my friends, take the cake!

Posted by: Vance McDaniel | April 15, 2008 1:38 AM

If slander itself is ugly, what is really feeble slander?

John above says a lot of tripe, including:

"2) He claims no relationship to Islam. Utter lie. A majority of his brothers and sisters, and other relatives are Muslim."

Um. His father left his mother when he was a very young child and went back to Kenya, where he started a new family -- six half-siblings, that Obama never met before he was an adult. That's the "majority of his brothers and sisters" that John is talking about. His American family that he grew up with was small, his father's new family that he never met is large, so that's the "majority" of his family for you. The one sister that he grew up with, his mother's daughter, is a Buddhist. That's not an Islamic sect, by the way, let's step on that rumor right away.

I don't believe he's ever claimed to have no "relation" to Islam. But there is a big difference between having nominally Muslim half-siblings you never met on another continent and being Muslim yourself. Isn't there? Or is this one of those "one drop of blood" things? If you stand too close to a Muslim on a bus, you're contaminated? Like it's a disease?

I find it grimly amusing that you simultaneously accuse him of being a Muslim and a fanatic black Christian. The ol' scatter-shot approach to slander. Throw enough of it at the wall and something may stick, eh? But friend, look at your hand.

Question: leaving aside Obama's many alleged faults, who is your preferred candidate and why are they good? Or is that a conversation you are afraid of having?

Posted by: J. Myers | April 15, 2008 1:37 AM

Obama reminds me of someone else who was running for President. George W. Bush. Yes, that is right! Both easily get frustrated and flustered when faced with criticism - ie - nothing is ever their own fault, let's blame someone else - the media, other politicians, etc. Obama has minimal experience with national politics prior to his Presidential run, like Bush. Both - you really don't know where they stand on issues and sidestep the issues. Voters were fooled once by the arrogant and inexperienced politician from Texas, shame on them as I fear they will be fooled again by Obama. This race really boils down to - do you want a Clinton (Hilary) or a Bush (McCain/Obama) in the White House?

Posted by: Sarah, Michigan | April 15, 2008 1:37 AM

Democrats for Hillary will never vote for OBAMA. period!

Posted by: Ed G. | April 15, 2008 1:25 AM

Awww c'mon Ed. And we were so hoping to get your vote. Thats ok. McInsane is clearly more your type anyway. Or is that Hillary? Hard to tell them apart these days.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 1:33 AM

Imagine the melodrama or ad that Obama could do on the Bosnia fiasco. Come to think of it, why doesn't he?!

Posted by: Greg | April 15, 2008 1:33 AM

Could someone please explain to me what the term troll means in the context of these blogs?

Posted by: Carol | April 15, 2008 1:27 AM

I told you guys, Obama is a divisive candidate. He divided the Democratic Party and if he wins as President, he will be a President of divisions. We can't have a President who would choose black or white. He should be the next President who will solve the economy. Does he have any experience in that area? None, except dealings with Rezco properties. He should be the President who will stop the war. Did he serve the military? What solid proof and vote he has made as junior Senator that he is against the war. Yes he proclaimed during campaign but it has been proven what he said in the campaign is different on his plans as told by surrogates in other countries. Democrats for Hillary will never vote for OBAMA. period!

Posted by: Ed G. | April 15, 2008 1:25 AM

I was googling along and I fell on this article a few weeks ago I hope it gets posted I founded under electronic intifada.net.in the editorial pik under barack
well, I hope it will be received this time. This issue is impotant to me. In the light of Jimmy Carter's sudden TOUR DE MIDDLE EAST in the heat of a close campaign and this issue is hardly ever discussed since we got caught on the race issue.
Article written in electronic intifada by ali abumina see editorial piks under barack. I googled it.
article by ali Abumina march 4th 2007 how Obama learned to love Israel.
"Over the years since I first saw Obama speak I met him about half a dozen times, often at Palestinian and Arab-American community events in Chicago including a May 1998 community fundraiser at which Edward Said was the keynote speaker. In 2000, when Obama unsuccessfully ran for Congress I heard him speak at a campaign fundraiser hosted by a University of Chicago professor. On that occasion and others Obama was forthright in his criticism of US policy and his call for an even-handed approach to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.
The last time I spoke to Obama was in the winter of 2004 at a gathering in Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood. He was in the midst of a primary campaign to secure the Democratic nomination for the United States Senate seat he now occupies. But at that time polls showed him trailing.
As he came in from the cold and took off his coat, I went up to greet him. He responded warmly, and volunteered, "Hey, I'm sorry I haven't said more about Palestine right now, but we are in a tough primary race. I'm hoping when things calm down I can be more up front." He referred to my activism, including columns I was contributing to the The Chicago Tribune critical of Israeli and US policy, "Keep up the good work!"
But Obama's gradual shift into the AIPAC camp had begun as early as 2002 as he planned his move from small time Illinois politics to the national scene. In 2003, Forward reported on how he had "been courting the pro-Israel constituency." He co-sponsored an amendment to the Illinois Pension Code allowing the state of Illinois to lend money to the Israeli government. Among his early backers was Penny Pritzker -- now his national campaign finance chair -- scion of the liberal but staunchly Zionist family that owns the Hyatt hotel chain. (The Hyatt Regency hotel on Mount Scopus was built on land forcibly expropriated from Palestinian owners after Israel occupied East Jerusalem in 1967). He has also appointed several prominent pro-Israel advisors."


Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 1:23 AM

Wikipedia Gate-
Whose been fudging the facts:

http://newsusa.myfeedportal.com/viewarticle.php?articleid=94

Posted by: Dave | April 15, 2008 1:20 AM

bottom line:

Pennsylvania voters don't really care about Hillary's latest attack.

Kitchen sink strategy part II? If so, time to throw something else... NEXT!

Oh I forgot, Hillary promised to run a respectable campaign from now on... and we all believe her too. We really, really do.

Posted by: eljefejesus | April 15, 2008 1:13 AM

21) The Media refuse to ask him questions about all of the above. Why?

Posted by: john | April 15, 2008 1:00 AM

Ummm probably because everything you wrote is complete bs and utter garbage.

Are you a graduate of Dr svreader PhD's Trolling 101 class?

Posted by: Michael G. | April 15, 2008 1:10 AM

Hillary needs to hire better actors in her add.

It just felt like her campaigners are telling their boss Hillary what she wants to hear so they can make her happy...

Posted by: eljefejesus | April 15, 2008 1:10 AM

Why are you people so scared of muslims ?

Posted by: smcd | April 15, 2008 1:07 AM

Steve who posted at 10:07PM hit the nail on the head. His comment is worth scrolling back to read. Who among us hasn't put his or her foot in their mouth and had their intentions taken the wrong way? The gov. of PA said himself that there are people in PA who will never vote for a black man, yet Obama didn't use that as an "excuse" when asked by CA supporters why he wasn't gaining the votes of rural PA voters. Let's forgive all three of these candidates their respective gaffes, and move on to the important issues.

Posted by: Old enough | April 15, 2008 1:06 AM

Awww isn't that sweet. svreader's little troll sidekick/clone iowatreasures.

Hey iowa, you forgot to add the obligatory latte liberal and personally murdering people lines that svreader loves so much.

LOL Research? Please. Spreading manure is not usually considered research.

Posted by: Michael G. | April 15, 2008 1:06 AM

what a bunch of losers. How can anyone be thinking of voting for a rich privilaged out of touch, criminal liar ? Hillary is everything America does not need right now. She is a pathetic example of what is wrong with politics in The United States.Do you really think she has some sort of real empathy for the poor , or the rural people ? Ha ! SHE IS PATHETIC. please quit NOW.

Posted by: smcd | April 15, 2008 1:05 AM

1) Obama is not a Muslim. But he continues to insist he never was. This is a plain lie. Why he makes it, remains beyond us.

2) He claims no relationship to Islam. Utter lie. A majority of his brothers and sisters, and other relatives are Muslim.

3) Obama's opposition to the Iraq war, while laudable in hindsight made little sense in 2002, except when his family, ethnic, and religious identity enter the equation.

5) Obama consistently downplays his relationship with Jeremiah Wright.

6) Lies about Wright's personal influence.

7) Lies about his involvement with Wright's politics, and the politics of Wright's Church.

8) Obama forces Jeremiah Wright to dissimulate about the nature of his church, his and their views, opinions, and achievements.

9) Obama dissimulates on Wright's past association with Farrakhan.

10) Obama employs Nation of Islam, in the past and present.Lets them go untouched, which

11) Raises concerns about Obama's own stance on the Nation of Islam.

12) Obama dissimulates about his former take on Israel, and the Palestinians, putting in question his present stance.

13) Obama misrepresents his background, and the context from which he hails, for political purposes, and

14) his books are fraught with lies about himself and who he i.

15) Obama's campaign deliberately exploits his racial identity, to shield their candidate from regular media grilling.

16) Obama has chosen a deliberate strategy of evasion and vagueness in tackling tough issues. He does not take a stand, and he wont.

17) Obama's rise to prominence, in Chicago, is fraught with deus ex machine events, and strange circumstances.

18) Why Obama's record in Chicago, has not received a proper vetting or review by the national media, is puzzling.

19) Obama entered Havard because his father was an Alumnus.

20) It is not clear when changed his name from Barry Soetoro, and why.

21) The Media refuse to ask him questions about all of the above. Why?

Posted by: john | April 15, 2008 1:00 AM

My e-mail is filled with Google Alerts about Obama attending a private fundraiser given by Rezko for Kadhmi Auchi (Saddam Hussein's sidekick). That information was learned in the Rezko trial today.

Obama "forgot" he knew Rezko for 17 years, and Obama "forgot" he met Auchi (who the party was for), Michelle and Barack both went, and both forgot they met one of the richest men in the world, who was also an arms procurer and money launderer for Saddam Hussein.

Auchi was so involved with Saddam Hussein that the two of them in 1959 tried to assassinate the president or prime minister of Iraq at that time. Auchi's gun was the gun that Saddam was going to use to kill that person.

I think it is so interesting that Michelle is the person who worked in Mayor Daley's office in 1991, and she is the one that brought Barrack Obama into the Chicago corruption fold. They married in 1992 at the Trinity Church where Obama had an office for "community organizing on the streets of Chicago."

The media has given Obama a free ride about his past - all he has had to do is say, "Na na na, whatever," and the media lets him slide.

But that is all changing the past week or so. There are a dozen reporters in chicago following the Rezko trial and Obama is listed as one of the witnesses. He was mentioned today in the trial, also about attending the party for Auchi. I have gotten a dozen or more alerts from different bloggers about this.

It is now becoming a very big deal. The mainstream media will not be able to ignore it much longer.

As I have said since I have been researching Obama, he will be a footnote in history. The American people are too decent to elect him to be in the White House. His anti-American friends, and wife, and pastor, show his character.

And, this week, Obama was willing to throw the Pennsylvania small town and rural people under the bus so he could be an arrogant speaking elitist in front of his Marin, California, elitist rich people, his statements made behind closed doors and not expected to be seen or heard by the people on the east coast.

We have to thank the Huffington Post reporter for revealing Obama's true self. gw.

Posted by: Iowatreasures | April 15, 2008 12:54 AM

To the person who posted a list of 50+ "lies" from Obama. Get your facts straight.

I don't have time to debunk your whole list, so here is a rebuttal to just one of your points, to show everyone your bias:

>6.) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, >your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from >which Barack came) means 'blessed' in >that language. Hussein is also Arabic and >so is Obama.

Obama is a Luo name (male) from Western Kenya (Nyanza Provice).

Barack is from Baraka, which means blessing in Kiswahili (as well as in Hebrew, Baruch - and Arabic, Barakah).

So, Barack IS a Swahili name. Stating that this is a lie, is like saying that "Paul" is not an English name, because it is also a French name.

"Hussein" is of course Arabic, and Barack has never said that it wasn't.

The rest of your 50+ list is also similarly misleading, based on half-truths, omissions and erroneons facts.

Posted by: JV | April 15, 2008 12:46 AM

Time to start running the Sniper fire commercials, Obama. This is war and Hillary doesn't deserve anything less than all of your focused artillery. She's rotten. She'll do anything to win, even if she tears down the Democratic Party. Take her out, now, before she succeeds. A cornered rat always fights the hardest.

Posted by: Chuck | April 15, 2008 12:42 AM

Wow, that ad was senseless and had absolutely nothing to do with any real issues. Although a savvy camapaign move, anyone with a brain, who is not basing their decision solely on emotions, is going to see right through that. But afterall, most Americans are ignorant of the issues and often vote for the candidate that they "like" the best. Clinton is shameless, she is heartless, ruthless, calculating, and manipulative, not to mention power hungry and scarily ambitious. Why would anyone want those qualities in the next president?

Posted by: nka | April 15, 2008 12:34 AM

The most experienced candidate ready to lead as the Commander-in-Chief is former POW and Navy Captain, Senator John McCain.

Posted by: Armyvet | April 14, 2008 11:35 PM

Can't argue that. Too bad he went completely insane after voluntarily sticking his head up Bush's posterior.

Posted by: Michael G. | April 14, 2008 11:43 PM

That is a real intelligent post and you are really intelligent.

Posted by: 08voter | April 15, 2008 12:20 AM

Thank you. I'm so happy to have the approval of a troll.

Posted by: Michael G. | April 15, 2008 12:29 AM

Boutan- they kept the Bosnia thing all over the papers for weeks, even as an embellished retelling of a story is not as big as his judgement in having a long-term relationship with reverand Wright- it totally wiped out that story.

The reason that this is a big deal is because it plays into the Obama's weaknesses. He has generarally not done well with working class and/or rural voters- wins in rural caucus states depended mostly on upperclass professionals and students in more urban parts to go to the sparsely attended caucuses. In order to win the electoral college, he will have to win several states that are dominated by rural/working class voters and/or win states dominated by Latin voters- as it stands now he seems unlikely to be able to do either. Again, it is not the "bitter" part of the statement that will cause him problems- it is the "guns and god" part.

Leon

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 12:29 AM


GO HILLARY

BRILLIANT, INTELLIGENT, ARTICULATE, INFORMED AND HAS GIVEN HER WHOLE LIFE TO HELPING OTHERS.

THE ONLY CHOICE

THE HELP AND THE HOPE WE REALLY NEED

GOD BLESS AMERICA

WITH IT'S FIRST MADAME PRESIDENT


Posted by: Todd | April 15, 2008 12:28 AM

Leon wrote: I've tried to start it before- Please post policy position contrasts that favor Obama.

Leon I see you are still in search of your policy issue. 1st let me say that Obama will not win in debate over policy issues with Hilary. Why? The man's only been in the senate 2 yrs, she has a 4 yr advantage over him. That said, what is the rest of her 29 yrs of experience? Hanging on to the coattails of Bill? Taking credit for policies he implemented when it is convenient to while distancing herself from others when it is politically expedient to do so? Ask yourself this question. Why is it that after being in the senate 4 yrs prior to Obama the bulk of her colleagues fell in behind Obama? Why can she not count those who served in her husband's administration among her supporters though many of them remain loyal to Bill? These are the people who know her best. Food for thought, my friend.

Posted by: tydicea | April 15, 2008 12:27 AM

Clinton is a pathetic narcissist, just like her lying, cheating "husband."
Obama is a racist with half a brain who has most Democrats swooning.
Anyone who could support either one of these morons is an idiot. Or a Democrat (which is redundant).

Posted by: Robin | April 15, 2008 12:17 AM

LOL that was funny. Robin, are you a comedian, an idiot yourself, or have you just been in a coma during the last 7 years of the republofascist destruction of America?

Why do you people even feign relevance or credibility anymore? If you had a shred of decency or common sense, you'd be embarrassed.

But you don't, so you're not.

Posted by: Michael G. | April 15, 2008 12:26 AM

Robin said: "Clinton is a pathetic narcissist, just like her lying, cheating "husband."
Obama is a racist with half a brain who has most Democrats swooning.
Anyone who could support either one of these morons is an idiot. Or a Democrat (which is redundant)."

You know, slander isn't an argument. It doesn't convince anyone of anything they don't already believe, and even then it still makes the speaker look very, very bad.

Try, just once in a while, explaining why something, anything, is good, rather than why everything is bad.

I mean . . . you sound bitter.

Posted by: J. Myers | April 15, 2008 12:22 AM

The most experienced candidate ready to lead as the Commander-in-Chief is former POW and Navy Captain, Senator John McCain.

Posted by: Armyvet | April 14, 2008 11:35 PM

Can't argue that. Too bad he went completely insane after voluntarily sticking his head up Bush's posterior.

Posted by: Michael G. | April 14, 2008 11:43 PM

That is a real intelligent post and you are really intelligent.

Posted by: 08voter | April 15, 2008 12:20 AM

Clinton is a pathetic narcissist, just like her lying, cheating "husband."
Obama is a racist with half a brain who has most Democrats swooning.
Anyone who could support either one of these morons is an idiot. Or a Democrat (which is redundant).

Posted by: Robin | April 15, 2008 12:17 AM

So, I'm confused. Are small-town Pennsylvanians not bitterly disappointed by politicians, and rightly so? Has not all change so far been for the worst for them, despite all promises? And so do they not turn inwards to long-standing conservative values that disparage change and newness? Is that not true? Don't they in fact withdraw to the familiar?

To me, that's all Obama was saying. He's obviously a new thing on the political stage, and he casts himself as an agent of change. He was responding to a question about why some people who have the most at stake in changing the status quo, the people most damaged by economic changes and poor health care, are yet the most resistant to embracing change.

I don't see that he was knocking God or guns; I see rather that he was explaining distrust of change.

I have a question, in all good faith, to those Democrats who think that what he said was terrible. If his explanation was so bad, why then do people in Texas and the South generally, who have been the most hurt by rising health care costs (precipitous increase in the uncovered over the last few decades) most support the party that does the least about it? Why do folks in declining industrial communities, who get nothing from conservative politicians, still favor them? Why do people vote against their own self-interest?

If Obama's explanation was wrong, what is the right one? Where has Hillary answered this question better? Or McCain?

Thanks,
J. Myers

Posted by: J. Myers | April 15, 2008 12:16 AM

Maybe Obama should blame should blame his Grandmother again...after all it is her fault!

Posted by: 08voter | April 15, 2008 12:05 AM

Maybe you should go back to troll training back to troll training. Or demand a refund a refund. After all it is their fault.

Posted by: Michael G. | April 15, 2008 12:11 AM

Hillary Clinton '08

I am completely, 100% against CAFTA, but Bill and I are keep the $800,000 from the Colombians.

Hillary Clinton. Showing that the 3 funniest, most cackle-worthy words in the English language are: Conflict of Interest

Solutions for the American Corporation

Posted by: UncleRemus | April 15, 2008 12:08 AM

Anyone who thinks HRC is a wanna-be Republican has drank too much Kool-Ade. She was slammed for 16 years by them as being too liberal and they have accused her of everything shy of extinguishing the sun. You Obama people don't actually ever argue policy. It's all personal attacks. I've tried to start it before- Please post policy position contrasts that favor Obama.

I am a leftist and have been for 24 years (Dem since 13- but if you force me to vote for Obama this time- after November I am done with the party). I am disgusted with the "liberals" in our party- his policies are less progressive/ambitious than hers- why are we trashing her?
Leon

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 12:07 AM

Leon, you ever been to PA? I lived in MD and spent a lot of time there. The rural areas of PA have a lot of what people refer too as rednecks....god, guns and country, and all that. A lot of these areas are economically depressed and I won't say all, but people do blame their problems on many things, real or imagined. Obama alluded to few of them. I wish people wouldn't piss on the messenger for bringing the message.

Posted by: truth hurts | April 15, 2008 12:06 AM

Maybe Obama should blame should blame his Grandmother again...after all it is her fault!

Posted by: 08voter | April 15, 2008 12:05 AM

TWP you sound like an svreader drone.

I'm just wondering why, if Obama is such a weak candidate, he is leading in delegates, states, popular vote, and small donors?

Are you actually arguing that Hillary will be a stronger candidate in the general?

Ok. Good luck with that.

Posted by: Michael G. | April 15, 2008 12:05 AM

"When Hillary made up her "sniper fire" story, did Obama do a TV add to shred her? No... he didn't need to, and he won't need to."

I thought the same thing. All he has to do is make a commercial of all of her lies and say
directly to the camera "Do you really like being lied to?"

Posted by: Clarence | April 15, 2008 12:05 AM

I'm back to not being proud of America again. Why don't you love my husband you bitter poor stupid whites...!?

Posted by: Michelle Obama | April 15, 2008 12:01 AM

Bitter Dissent,

Jumping on a bandwagon is not dissent. Anyhow- he has lied clearly about financing, hearing his pastor, free trade agreements with Canada, his position on Iraq AFTER the 2002 peace rally speech, his involvement in legislation, and many other things- it is pretty ballsy to act as if if she is lying, she would be the only one doing it. HE IS A POLITICIANhttp://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=aa0cd21b-0ff2-4329-88a1-69c6c268b304&k=5083

Stop hating on her. Compare policies. She is our better candidate.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 12:00 AM

What happened to the Faux-bama I believed in?

Posted by: Fooled by the Personality Cult | April 14, 2008 11:59 PM

And I agree that this isn't a "tough" ad. It is mild. The fact that it zeroes in on Barry's snotty attitude and hits the mark so easily shows what a weak candidate he is.

He gets very bitter and hateful when people don't kiss his behind.

Posted by: Typical White Pennsylvanian | April 14, 2008 11:56 PM

Hillary and Bill both offend me everytime they speak. No matter what they say. It's all to win means nothing to them.

Posted by: Howard | April 14, 2008 11:55 PM

Grace:

Obama is so elitist he trashes Clinton for drinking a shot in a bar, while he bowls like a 5 year old girl!

Posted by: Typical White Pennsylvanian | April 14, 2008 11:53 PM

What a pathetic woman.

The idea of her spending time at AA makes more sense every day.

Posted by: CRLC | April 14, 2008 11:53 PM

Sen. Obama's remark shows he lacks passion and understanding of small-town America. The question of who can win small-town America in the general election is becoming an interesting issue.
Four years earlier, his supporter Sen. Kerry was defeated by President G.W. Bush mainly because Kerry won most of the cities, while Bush won the majority of the small-town America. Since Sen. Obama is less effective in winning small-town America than Kerry, it is expected he will be a loser in the general election because of his inability in winning small-town America, even if he got nominated, whereas Sen. Clinton has the ability of winning both cities and small-town America in the general election, following what Bill Clinton did in 1996 in beating Bob Dole.

Posted by: austin | April 14, 2008 11:53 PM

Boutan- they kept the Bosnia thing all over the papers for weeks, even as an embellished retelling of a story is not as big as his judgement in having a long-term relationship with reverand Wright- it totally wiped out that story.

The reason that this is a big deal is because it plays into the Obama's weaknesses. He has generarally not done well with working class and/or rural voters- wins in rural caucus states depended mostly on upperclass professionals and students in more urban parts to go to the sparsely attended caucuses. In order to win the electoral college, he will have to win several states that are dominated by rural/working class voters and/or win states dominated by Latin voters- as it stands now he seems unlikely to be able to do either. Again, it is not the "bitter" part of the statement that will cause him problems- it is the "guns and god" part.

Leon

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 11:52 PM

Everytime Hillary went negative on Obama, she lost votes to him. You'd think the beyoch will get a hint from that. But like Bush clings to his Iraq surge, Hillary has to cling to negative Obama ads. I hope after Hillary loses the nomination , she divorces Bill and marries Dubya.

Posted by: Blue Dog Dem | April 14, 2008 11:52 PM

Being critical of hard working Americans is not going to get him many votes in any election and being a two-faced liar probably will not help him much either.

Posted by: 08Voter | April 14, 2008 11:45 PM

Sorry to burst your little troll bubble 08voter, but Obama wasn't criticizing hard working Americans.

But as a liar yourself, and judging from Hillary's campaign, I'll take your word that lying is not helpful.

Obviously you would know.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 11:52 PM

Obama asked for it when he said the small town folks got bitter from the policies of the Bush AND CLINTON years. Where was his loyalty as a Democrat? It's not the first time either. He did the same thing when he said Ronald Reagan was better than Clinton.

He deserves everything Hillary throws at him and then some. What an arrogant, pompous jerk he is!

Posted by: NoNoNoBama | April 14, 2008 11:48 PM

Yeah, you go girl! Go right back to New York. Wait, your only there as launch pad for presidency. Where the flip can you go?

Posted by: arny | April 14, 2008 11:47 PM

Obama isn't Muslim. He was raised by his mother who wasn't religious. Just because someone has a 1/2 brother (who he probably barely knows) who is Muslim, doesn't make him a Muslim. He wasn't raised in Kenya. He lived with his Christian grandparents for many years. But anyways, aside from the extremists, most Muslims are good people so all of these hateful remarks insinuating how terrible he would be as president because he must be secretly muslim are disgusting. People should be ashamed and embarrassed about their lack of understanding. You know, people that aren't Christian in the US have to know about Chrisitanity since it is the dominant faith, but most Christians do not bother to learn one bit about Judaism, Islam, Buddhism etc to save their lives. If you dislike Obama based on his campaign issues, that is one thing, but to reference negatives about a religion that he hasn't practiced shows how ignorant and racist you are.

Posted by: MK | April 14, 2008 11:46 PM

Hillary Clinton '08

When the going gets tough small town people don't cling to guns and God. But, I sure do. Hey, PA this one's for you! I'm buying the drinks, but you're gonna be the one's paying for it.

Solutions for the American Corporation

Posted by: UncleRemus | April 14, 2008 11:46 PM

Obama's got Nothing...He has never done anything for this country and has only benefited from all it has to offer. But, of course, this doesn't keep him from looking down on all those that believe in hard work and taking responsiblity for their lives. Being critical of hard working Americans is not going to get him many votes in any election and being a two-faced liar probably will not help him much either.

Posted by: 08Voter | April 14, 2008 11:45 PM

The most experienced candidate ready to lead as the Commander-in-Chief is former POW and Navy Captain, Senator John McCain.

Posted by: Armyvet | April 14, 2008 11:35 PM

Can't argue that. Too bad he went completely insane after voluntarily sticking his head up Bush's posterior.

Posted by: Michael G. | April 14, 2008 11:43 PM

This is "3am" and Ohio NAFTA-gate rolled into one, just the Pennsylvania version. One week after that the Texas and Ohio Primaries it emerged from Hillary Clinton's White House records that:
1. She did support NAFTA and fought for it as First Lady
2. When she stood there and launched her "3am" ad by talking about sniper fire, she was lying to the American people.

Once again, economically marginalized voters are going to vote against their own interests because of sly foxy politicians like Hillary Clinton.

I'm telling you this for a fact, within months if not weeks, we will have a speech unearthed where Hillary Clinton said exactly the same things Obama said, to a similar audience.

The Democrats will punish someone for speaking the truth and forgive a repeated liar who earns 100 million while giving away their jobs.

And by the way, Obama's pastor is not anti-white, he's anti-white racists. Big difference. For example, the 50 year-old Indiana Congressman who called Obama a boy this weekend.

Posted by: asja | April 14, 2008 11:42 PM

After the meeting today in Pittsburgh where the crowd booed Hillary and shouted "no" at her when she mentioned Obama -- the following ltter was handed to Obama by a person in the audience.


Dear Fellow Pennsylvanian,

Based on the experiences that I have had in my seventy-five years and my assessment of what I think our nation needs to make real the change that is so needed, I am proud and now feel compelled to endorse Senator Barack Obama.

This is not something that I do regularly but as I listen to the candidates in this race, I am struck that we continue to hear about the problems and the same challenges that we have been talking about for decades. Protecting jobs here in Pennsylvania, breaking our dangerous and costly addiction to foreign oil, making health care accessible and affordable - these are neither new issues nor new ideas. And yet we have failed to make real progress.

As a grandfather and a citizen of this community I think Barack Obama's, thoughtful, strategic approach is important for America. When I hear how excited young people seem to be when they talk about this man, I believe he will do what is best for them which is to inspire them to be great Americans.

This time, we can't afford to wait. Our country needs a new direction and a new kind of leadership - the kind of leadership, judgment and experience that Senator Obama has demonstrated in more than 20 years of public service, and in a particularly impressive way in this campaign. Senator Obama has rejected the say-and-do anything tactics that puts winning elections ahead of governing the country. And he has rejected the back-room politics in favor of opening government up to the people. Barack Obama is the one candidate in this race who can finally put an end to business as usual in Washington and bring about real change for Pittsburgh and the country as a whole. He has inspired me and so many other people around our country with new ideas and fresh perspectives.

True sports fans know that you support your team even when they are the underdogs. Barack Obama is the underdog here but it is with great pride that I join his team.

When I think of Barack Obama's America I have great hope. I support his candidacy and look forward to his Presidency

Sincerely,

Daniel M. Rooney, Owner and Chairman, Pittsburgh Steelers


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I wonder if Mr. Rooney has any friends left in Pennsylvania? I'll bet not more than a million or so.

Posted by: GandalftheGrey | April 14, 2008 11:41 PM

CarlosBee,

What I am usually told, when people on the opposite ends of the political spectrum agree with each other, is that they must be making a very valid point.

Posted by: daweeni | April 14, 2008 11:40 PM

Clinton and her "mis-spoken" embellished foreign policy experience versus Obama and his perception (aired on TV as early as 2004) See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oGF3cyHE7M. One is a series of lies for personal gains, the other an opinion. I am shocked reading some of the vitriol spewed against Obama (his middle name and slated references to his religion) by the Clinton war-machine. Fortunately for her, I do not vote here.

Posted by: Soumya | April 14, 2008 11:38 PM

Tom,

When you claim that 50 million people have posted anything about anything, you are displaying an inability to count that can only lead one to question your intelligence.

Posted by: daweeni | April 14, 2008 11:37 PM

Take a look at BILL KRISTOL's piece in yesterday's NYTimes and you'll see a total confluence between his right wing views and...Hillary's! Exactly the same take on Obama.
Now...what does THAT tell you?

Posted by: CarlosBee | April 14, 2008 11:37 PM

I actually have come to enjoy Hillary and Barack beating up on each other. It is too bad, though, that Hillary thinks she is entitled to become president and Commander-in-Chief, when, in actuality, she has no military experience at all. The most experienced candidate ready to lead as the Commander-in-Chief is former POW and Navy Captain, Senator John McCain.

Posted by: Armyvet | April 14, 2008 11:35 PM

Clinton should be spending more time at AA meetings, not running for the presidency.

And John, I'll be more than happy to take up on the drink challenge. But we're sticking to good PA beers -- no Bailey's, no Clintonista bitters.

Posted by: JP2 | April 14, 2008 11:35 PM

Wow. His use of the word "bitter" sure is drawing a lot of sniper fire.

Posted by: Meyer | April 14, 2008 11:35 PM

Obama is elitist and out of touch just like John Kerry was. Does Obama eat pizza with a fork?

Posted by: Grace | April 14, 2008 11:25 PM

With all due respect Grace, and I hate to break this to you, but anybody that thinks Obama is an elitist (great little Clint-Rovian soundbite by the way) is an idiot.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 11:33 PM

It was completely missed in this news cycle, but Politico reported that Bill has received over $8 million of the taxpayers money since he left office to pay for telephone calls and a chic Manhattan office.

That's more that any two other presidents together.

That's our tax payers money, to Bill, while he earns $110 million for speeches, and his foundation earns even more for propping up leaders who suppress human rights.

Bill took $8 million of our money, legally, after earning $110 million.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 11:33 PM

"This just in:
Obama is putting together the backdrop for his November aspirations. 5 yellow people, 2 brown people, 6 white people, 3 gray people, 10 green people and 50 million dumb people required."

Doesn't work, I'm afraid. The 50 million dumb people are already posting in favor of Hillary on this forum.

Posted by: tom | April 14, 2008 11:33 PM

Bitter!! I am bitter that Hillary is still in this race!! She is going to be the downfall of the Democratic Party!! I hope the good people of PA realize they are being duped. It is time for some fresh faces in Washington, and some fresh policies.

OBAMA '08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Erica | April 14, 2008 11:30 PM

Never thought I'd vote for Hillary, but that maniac Obama has convinced me.

Posted by: Frank | April 14, 2008 11:30 PM

Once again, I am living in an alternate universe. To describe this ad as "tough" is quite stunning. I see nothing "tough" about it.

But then, when I hear people talk about the wonderful candidates the Democrats have, and how any of them would make a great President, all I can think of is the emperor is wearing no clothes.

Posted by: bandmom22 | April 14, 2008 11:29 PM

Hmmm...Hillary supports Nafta, pays supports of CAFTA (her advisors) millions of dollars, and benefits from CAFTA herself through Bill.

Obama talks about how people vote for guns and religion against their interest (Republican).


CAFTA or truth .... CAFTA or truth.


I take truth.

Posted by: KarenZZ | April 14, 2008 11:28 PM

Thank you,Kosmik Debris.And may Frank Zappa live! Jacksmith is on drugs and Obama ain't no elitist growing up a half black male!
Shoot,unless the man was going to private schools he would have
to deal with all kinds of crap especially in the Chicago area.I could be a Hillary fan except for the fact that she didn't dump Bill after all his shenanigans!

Posted by: mb | April 14, 2008 11:27 PM

Will the laughing fool who asks what people will do when Obama is elected please check his calendar? It is April 14, not 1.

Posted by: daweeni | April 14, 2008 11:26 PM

Beware superdelegates. Obama is unelectable and his true self is beginning to show. Words matter Obama. You are losing it now. We will love to see you lose in Pennsylvania, Indiana, Kentucky and West Virginia.

Obama is incapable of being presidentof the U.S. of KKK and he is beginning to crack. The Democratic oarty will be just fine without you in November.

Keep those comments coming Obama. You are your own worst enemy. No candidate could come up with a better ad.

Obama is elitist and out of touch just like John Kerry was. Does Obama eat pizza with a fork?

Posted by: Grace | April 14, 2008 11:25 PM

what are you going to do when Obama is elected President of the United States?
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 11:25 PM

Congratulations arrogant, elitist, plutocratic, Liberal Democrats. You have found leadership in a man who will guide you to defeat in the Presidential election, and possibly even cost you the paper thin majorities you have in the House and Senate. This, despite two terms of an administration that was arguably more incompetent than was James Earl Carter's. I am a lifelong registered Democrat, who comes from a place full of Obama's bitter people, and no lover of anything the Republican party has become, and has done to this country, but I see the writing on the wall pretty clearly. If this so-called charismatic champion does win in Pennsylvania, it will be a result of some people simply having given up on voting at all. Can you blame them, after you managed to trot out two losers like Gore and Kerry, who, in the one thing I agree with Ralph Narcissist about, couldn't even beat someone as lacking in talent and ability as George W. Bush? When it comes time for the press to choose sides, between a man who refused to take advantage of position, and rotted in a North Vietnamese prison, and a man who sneers at the very people whose votes he will desperately need, to score some points at a nice little gathering of rich phonies, who do you think is going to get the worst of it? I'll wager that the media may even get folks who might otherwise just sit home, and wish they'd have had a Democrat they could vote for, to cast a vote after all. Creating a new batch of Reagan Democrats, without even having to have four years of a Jimmy to convince them, is truly a master-stroke.

Posted by: daweeni | April 14, 2008 11:24 PM

Since all the illiterates here seem to be for Hillary, who's going to be left over to vote for poor McCain?

Posted by: tom | April 14, 2008 11:24 PM

"Hey Obamabots. I heard Hillary is getting fitted for a pair of brass knuckles. What do you think about that?

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 9:16 PM "


Those are meant for Bill.

Posted by: Kiku | April 14, 2008 11:24 PM

It is to be expected, so much for inevitable candidate. I just keep on hearing Hillary is a fighter. Fighting whom ? There is no courage or fight in any of bills she has authored in the Senate. The fight she put in Hillary care is her fault or lack of sensitive strategy.

Please give me a break. Hillary Clinton is fighting for the Common blue collar worker on the board of Wal-mart ? The whole story of fight is a baloney, 109Million and counting, I wont call it a fight, I call it Pimping.

Posted by: srikanth | April 14, 2008 11:23 PM

A shout out to HRC for taking this race to a new low.

At least if she wins the nomination, I'll have a very easy choice. in November McCain has much more experience, and has as much character (possibly more). It's a no-brainer.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 11:23 PM

"FAITH AND GUNS WERE HERE BEFORE OBAMAS MUSILM FATHER WERE HERE.THIS GUY IS LOOSER."

Than what [or whom], 777?

Posted by: tom | April 14, 2008 11:23 PM

Add you own Obama is so elitist and out of touch comments and post them.

Posted by: Grace | April 14, 2008 11:13 PM

How about this one Grace:

Obama is so elitist and out of touch that he is leading in delegates, states, popular vote, and campaign contributions from small donors.

LOL Pretty funny huh?

Posted by: Michael G. | April 14, 2008 11:21 PM

Hillary's the man!

Posted by: john | April 14, 2008 11:20 PM

Hillary using the NeoCon playbook again.

If you can't beat 'em... slader 'em. Offer a misdirection to the retarded masses and pray that enough of them forget the real issues and focus on the bullcrap you're spreading.

Yes indeed. Hillary would make a GREAT president. Like George Bush as made a great president. If the American public at large is too ignorant to learn from their mistakes, then by all means elect another thoroughly dishonest person into the White House.

Posted by: BibleBelt | April 14, 2008 11:20 PM

"Video of a half-awake if not ghoulish-looking Shrillary gets boos for trashing up Obama."

Now, now! As Bill will remind us all, "Hey, she's sixty! She forgets things!"

No 3 a.m. phone calls for her: Bill will take them!

Posted by: tom | April 14, 2008 11:17 PM

You cannot blame Senator Clinton for BO's mistakes and this is the one that will sink his ship forever. It's no one's fault but own But then again he was never qualified to be president anyway. He has proven himself to be a liar and a hypocrite. His entire campaign has been a complete fraud. He is absolutely unelectable now. Please vote smart, vote Clinton.

Posted by: Tobias | April 14, 2008 11:15 PM

She needs to keep talking about this or else people will realize that she has nothing of substance to talk about.

It's funny how twisting Obama's words can make people forget about her $800,000 connection to the pending free trade agreement with Columbia. Type: "Hillary Clinton, Columbia" into Youtube. It's fantastic!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 11:15 PM

Hard to believe that Hillary is a democrat. You wouldn't know it with the way she as run a disgusting negative campaign against a fellow democrat. Anything for victory right Hillary? I can promise people this, if Hillary steals this nomination there will be a full scale riot at that convention in Denver!

Posted by: Unreal | April 14, 2008 11:14 PM

Snobama is so elitist and out of touch he thinks that he is already president before the voters even voted.

Nobama is so elitist and out of touch he mistakes beer for sour champagne.

Obama is so elitist and out of touch he has flight attendant cut his meat for him.

Obama is so elitist and out of touch that he thinks he can say anything he wants and blames Hillary for talking smack.

Obama is so elitist and out of touch he can graduate from not just one but TWO Ivy League schools and still acct like he's from the ghetto.

Obama is so elitist and out of touch that he doesn't even dribble the basketball down the court. He carries it and makes Hillary take the faul.

OBAMA is so elitist and out of touch he thinks you shoot a duck with a six shooter.

Obama is so elitist and out of touch he doesn't want any Vice President at all because they might get the job in 2012.

Obama is so elitist and out of touch he thought Oprah was also form the same ghetoo he was from.

Add you own Obama is so elitist and out of touch comments and post them.

Posted by: Grace | April 14, 2008 11:13 PM

Who's the elitist? Obama was raised by a single mother, and is half black. Hillary was raised in a prosperous two-parent family and is white. Obama went to Columbia and Harvard Law; Hillary went to Wellesley and Yale Law. Obama was a community organizer; Hillary was corporate counsel for Wal-Mart, and First Lady of Arkansas and the US. Obama has done well, averaging a family income of a little under a million per year for the last 8 years; Hillary has done better, averaging a family income of about 13 million per year over the last 8 years. A few shots with the boys don't make her Rosie the Riveter, especially when $800,000 of her income this year [a small percentage] came from Bill lobbying for the Colombian Trade Agreement.

Think about it....

Posted by: tom | April 14, 2008 11:12 PM

After the great presidency Bill Clinton had,it is a shame to see the Clintons stoop so low. You've lost all of my respect,and more importatntly,my vote. Pocket what pride you have left and stop dividing the party.

Posted by: walkman56 | April 14, 2008 11:08 PM

Could they produce a less inspiring ad? Have all the creative people in Clinton's campaign jumped ship?

If this is the best she can do then she is deep trouble. The Obama campaign is blanketing the airways with ads that are uplifting with people who seem to be speaking from the heart, these people seem to be speaking from the spleen.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 11:08 PM

Ahhhh leave it to Jon Stewart to get it right.

Posted by: Michael G. | April 14, 2008 11:08 PM

Does anyone rember the remark HRC made that she had tried to join the Marines but was told by the Marine Recruiter that "She wasn't Marine Material."

She should just become McCain's running mate. They are afterall "good friends."

Posted by: Shaun-Kar | April 14, 2008 11:08 PM

Obamamaniacs opines, "Hillary has to be tough." Right. She was married to Bill.

Posted by: tom | April 14, 2008 11:06 PM

Hillary is counting on duping PA voters. Her kitchen sink tactics are too transparent. This is a desperate move on the part of a desperate candidate. It will cost her dearly once this is all behind us and Obama is president.

Posted by: AJBF | April 14, 2008 11:05 PM

Despite her Wellesley/Yale, background, Hillary is just a good renecked girl at heart! As she has pointed out, her family was so poor that her grandfather didn't put heat in his summer cottage.

My grandfather didn't have a summer cottage. Neither did my parents. Neither do I. If I did, I can't imagine why I'd put a heating system in it.

Posted by: tom | April 14, 2008 11:03 PM

Those who are making this a big issue are red necks and wouldn't have voted for a black man anyway.

As for the rest of voters, it's easier to pick an elitest than a liar or a warmonger.

Posted by: mtt | April 14, 2008 11:01 PM

Good for Hillary! Obama's true colors are now beginning to be seen. He is a racist and an extreme marxist to boot. He really doesn't understand America or Americans and the more he opens his mouth the more everyone understand the "real" Obama. He doees not stand a chance this fall if he is the Democratic nominee and people should realize this and support Hillary.

Posted by: 08voter | April 14, 2008 11:00 PM

Sometimes the latte causes private thoughts to bubble out, but all in all this is not surprising from a second generation affirmative action power couple.

Posted by: Bitter Papist | April 14, 2008 10:50 PM

You McClinton trolls really do like that little latte line don't you?

Few things more boring than a troll that thinks its clever.

Posted by: Michael G. | April 14, 2008 11:00 PM

when hillary waxes eloquent about her youth and learning to shoot with her father, one must wonder if there is a shred of truth to it...or...is it another flight of fantasy, as with the whole bosnia stink.

Posted by: jazzgrrrl25 | April 14, 2008 11:00 PM

Ok, so Obama should have used the word "frustrated" instead of "bitter." I think that mistake is far better than using the words "landed under sniper fire" when she should have used "greeted by a little girl with flowers." If you "mis-remember" sniper fire vs. a little girl, what happens when there's a report about Iran trying to export grape leaves - do you confuse grape leaves with yellow cake?

Posted by: mtn1414 | April 14, 2008 11:00 PM

Bill Clinton made very similar remarks about the same voting bloc when he ran for president, and it didn't so much as raise an eyebrow. Hillary, the biggest liar on the planet, is past desperate. Her campaign is dead and all she can do now is lash out and appeal to the worst emotions in people. This divide and conquer appeal will do nothing to help her ressurect her dead campaign, but that's not what she is looking for. Clinton wants to destroy Obama's chances of winning the presidency, because she is so bitter about losing this nomination, that she wants the Democrats to lose. If Obama wins in November, Clinton knows she will NEVER get the chance to run again -- and she is willing to burn every Democrat, including those down ticket, who have the chance to capture the House and Senate by huge margins in the fall. That should offend all Democrats. I just hope Clinton supporters will open their "wide shut" eyes, and see her for the lack of character, win at all cost or destroy the party, sore loser she is.

Posted by: wanakee hill | April 14, 2008 10:59 PM

Hillary is finished as a senator. Her ugliness will remind the volters in future.

Posted by: Bill | April 14, 2008 10:58 PM

RE:Comment above: "HUSSEIN Obama is nothing but a bigot."

Really, who is the bigot? That remark sounds both rural AND bitter.

Bitter and Obama. We're fortunate to have one who speaks boldy and honestly even if it is not always perfect. If we were counting misstatements, Bush has left a tally no one will ever equal.

And Hillary sure does cast a lot of stones... especially for someone who is supposed to have the lead in PA.

Posted by: DonJulio | April 14, 2008 10:57 PM

FAITH AND GUNS WERE HERE BEFORE OBAMAS MUSILM FATHER WERE HERE.THIS GUY IS LOOSER.

Posted by: 777 | April 14, 2008 10:56 PM

I need to go to bed anyway.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 10:54 PM

Hell, there doesn't seem to be any other Clintonistas on this blog. It's just an Obama circle jerk.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 10:53 PM

There is no depth to which she will not sink.

Posted by: rusty 3 | April 14, 2008 10:52 PM

I was born in a small town and I WILL VOTE IN A SMALL TOWN *****************************************************************88

Posted by: Opie | April 14, 2008 10:52 PM

Well what a fight! Here is the start of round three: Hillery comes out with a left hook video staggering Barry back! Barry charges back but misses with a poll number right. Hillery throws a right cross then a low left hook! Barry grimaces in pain and complains to the ref! LOW BLOW! Hillary smiles! END OF ROUND!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: jackmack | April 14, 2008 10:51 PM

"A lot of people in PA are religious and gun happy and turn to that when they need support. If you want a real slanderous comment about the people of PA, and Alabama for that matter, look into what Governor Rendell said about PA, it was something along the lines of, we have Philadelphia on one end, Pittsburgh on the other end, and Alabama in the middle! I didn't see anyone in PA fighting that comment. Alabama was upset, but that is understandable. Ask Rendell what he meant by that. Oh yeah, don't forget, Rendell is a huge Clinton supporter."

Posted by: NOWBaroque | April 14, 2008 at 05:40 PM

i'm thinking this alabama quote was originally stated by carville, but it is an interesting point on perspective...

Posted by: jazzgrrrl25 | April 14, 2008 10:50 PM

Sometimes the latte causes private thoughts to bubble out, but all in all this is not surprising from a second generation affirmative action power couple.

Posted by: Bitter Papist | April 14, 2008 10:50 PM

If the voters of small town PA. thinks that HI-LIAR-RY gives a tin s**t about them they are sadly mistaken. Money buys influence and access in the status quo. These people don't have deep enough pockets for the Clintons. Once she gets your vote, you'll hear from her 4 yrs from now. Don't make that mistake. SAY NO TO THE STATUS QUO!

Posted by: tydicea | April 14, 2008 10:50 PM

Obama is not ready for the Repuglican attack machine. Beside, have you noticed he looks like J Fred Muggs? HRC will be ready to hit the ground running on Day One. You Go Girl.

Posted by: Harold Gurly Man Icky | April 14, 2008 10:48 PM

I really think it's time for the Clintons to move over and get out of the way. The country has Clinton fatigue, and besides they've collectively done enough damage to the Democratic Party.

Posted by: spicegal | April 14, 2008 10:47 PM

According to the lastest polls Hillary is trailing Obama by 15 points in PA......ROFL you go troll.

Posted by: neocon | April 14, 2008 10:46 PM

What's the sound of one hand clapping?

Posted by: martin edwin andersen | April 14, 2008 10:45 PM

The Clintons are so arrogant that they have not figured out by now that they are way more a liability to the Democratic Party and the nation as a whole than Obama ever could be, and the voters have spoken such clearly. It is way past time for Clintons to get out of the way and let one way more qualified to govern, Obama, take over. What utter failures and crass politicians the Clintons have proven to be--most of us are just disgusted with them at this point.

Posted by: bastanow | April 14, 2008 10:44 PM

Hmmmmm... let me try a post in the style popular among some people here.


Hillary Rove Clinton is a bigot! The Wellesley elitist Goldwater girl wants to maintain white supremacy, faking understanding of the working class with her $109 million tax return. Makes me kind of sorry that there wasn't really sniper fire on her trip to Bosnia (or was it the ninth circle of hell to talk with her mentor, Satan?). And then the drunkard swigs shots and beer just to show how much like her drunken, beer-bellied I-love-Hitlery supporters she is. Of course, you have to be drunk to support Shrillary, and if she's elected it's the only way you'll be able to survive the next four years. Say no to fake, beery bonhomie! Say no to tyranny of the small-minded who are jealous of anyone smarter than they are! Say yes to Obama in '08! Because he's my candidate and if you don't like him you're stupid!

Whew! Well, that was an interesting exercise. Total extemporaneous character assassination and lies based on utter tripe. Pretty tiring stuff - I don't know how some of you manage to keep it up all day. Beats thinking, I guess.

Posted by: treetopflyer | April 14, 2008 10:43 PM

I am so pleased to know that multi-millionaire Billary can feel my pain, she is soooo in touch, though I'll bet she can't tell me what it cost her the last time SHE put gas in her car. yea right she stops at the quick stop and pumps her own gas!!!!

Tell me again how in touch the former first lady is? The one who's experience is based upon her time as first lady when she didn't even know what was going on in the oral office, or maybe she did but figured she'd better just stay quiet. Yea she's so in touch with the American voter when she doesn't even know what her husband is doing...

So what will be the Billary flavor of the week be next week? Now that she's disclosed she's a gun toting religious fanatic....

Change we can count on, it's a Billary remake on a weekly basis.

Posted by: yakmon | April 14, 2008 10:43 PM

ANYBODY SELLING "BAN THE O" (obama) bumper stickers? I need TWO!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: BS | April 14, 2008 10:41 PM

Jennifer Potenciano, I can't believe that you're calling Obama "boy."

Posted by: freethinker | April 14, 2008 10:41 PM

Notice how the Billary supporters only believe what the mediatells them. Wow what a bunch of drones.

Note to drones: It is good to get off a leaky boat and think for yourself.

Posted by: Larry Oregon | April 14, 2008 10:40 PM

Clintonistas on the blog. If you love your candidate raise your hand. I will be the first. I LOVE Hillary Clinton. She's my once in a lifetime candidate.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 10:40 PM

I think it's ironic that there's a note above the blog comments saying "Please email us to report offensive comments." Maybe that's how the person who recorded Obama's comments knew to call the press. What silliness. A Harvard grad is elitist? There's news. On the other hand, it's odd that the so-called elitist worked as a community organizer. I guess people who accomplish things in life -- particularly in a big way -- are multi-faceted characters who have complex views. Meanwhile, people who live their entire lives in the world of politics are pretty freakin' predictable, and it's that petty predictability that drives people away from the polls.

Posted by: TJO | April 14, 2008 10:40 PM

No one questions Hillary's experience, competence, or intelligence. It's her character, leadership, and loyalty that's in question, not to mention who would really be better for the country. Doris Kearns Goodwin, an historian and presidential scholar, speaks to this issue frequently. She said character is a better predictor of a successful presidency, not experience. Some of our worst presidents have been those with lots of experience, and some of the best have had little experience. That is also true in the business world. The bottom line is there's not way to "train" or truly prepare for the presidency because there's just no other job like it.

Posted by: spicegal | April 14, 2008 10:39 PM

When Hillary was caught flat LYING about the 'under sniper fire' thing, she lost my support! And when she started calling Obama an elitist (HA! Millionairess HILLARY calling the son of a single mother an elitist!), well 'Gimme a break!'... I never thought I'd find myself in the same corner as a Republican co-worker who has always been a Hillary-hater, but dang... this woman is so full of cr*p I can't see how anyone would believe her! And I've had enough lying, sneaky, sons of guns over the last 7 years, I'm darned if I'm going to vote for another lying sneak!

Posted by: TomB | April 14, 2008 10:39 PM

Well. As an interested observer of US politics for many years now, the present state of affairs is really sad. A definite "Democrat" year looks like being undermined by the Clintons, who probably would be happy to damage Obama so much, that they give McBush enough ammo to sink him in November. All so she can give it another shot in 4 years.
I was not for Obama or Clinton before any of this stuff, but it just seems to me that it would be so easy to make attack ads based on the 'sniper fire' lies, which would plainly demonstrate the dishonesty which is at the heart of the Clinton campaign and psyche. But Obama doesn't do this.
Of course, Obama is not perfect by any stretch. What he is, is a politician, not the Second Coming. But even though he is that most pitiful of creatures, he does at least attempt to be something better, to elevate the discourse and the campaign above the 'same old' politics.
Watching HRC these days I'm reminded of Tracy Flick from the movie 'Election', tearing down posters. I'd say the bitterness expressed by Obama is true for many Americans who have lost their jobs and their homes at a time when major corporations have made record profits and some 'champions' of the working class have raked in a cool $109 million dollars, while their daughter walks out of college into a $100,000 a year job.
When you've got all of that going for you and you behave as reprehensibly as you do- the bitterness lies deep inside and is a trait no Commander-in-Chief should possess in such amounts.

Posted by: mark payne | April 14, 2008 10:38 PM

I'm an independent voter and truly at a loss deciding who to vote for in November.

Obama's smugness makes me skin crawl. He didn't misspeak--he knew exactly what he was saying to a group of rich San Francisco liberals. It was just a fancy way of saying: "Those silly typical white religious, gun-toting racist nutjob." Why people still insist that he is a "uniter" despite consistently stereotyping anyone different from him is beyond me.

Wake up people--he is just as divisive as Hillary and George W. Bush. The only people who don't realize this are his infatuated supporters.


Probably going to write this election off and vote third party in November. Mike Gravel 2008!

Posted by: Tirade | April 14, 2008 10:37 PM

John, Hillary Clinton's support is less than Obama!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 10:37 PM

For Hillary it is about her legacy and inevitability, not about the good of the country. She is Bush but with a (D) after her name. She will divide, not unite. It is time for others to see her for what she is and what she will be. If she steals this, I will be a lost vote but I will have lots of company. I may not agree with McCain on many issues, but I do not doubt his sincerity nor honor to want do what is best for this country. Hillary is a false hope.

Posted by: Vermonter | April 14, 2008 10:37 PM

Dear jacksmith,

You could have saved lots of energy and keystrokes by just typing that you are an idiot and a dupe and left it at that.

Posted by: Michael G. | April 14, 2008 10:36 PM

Obama seems resentful that anybody would actually critisize him. Maybe even a little bitter.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 10:36 PM

Hillary has completely lost it. She turns off a lot of people and may end up handing the election to McCain.

Posted by: silverspring | April 14, 2008 10:36 PM

What? No HIllary Clinton? That's a good thing for PA and a better thing for America! No double-talking, Columbia-NAFTA trade dealing, lying, cheating, swindling Clinton will get my vote! I'm bitter and mad as h&#)( and not gonna take it no more!

Posted by: PA4OBAMA | April 14, 2008 10:36 PM

This is the ultimate invanity. All of this money could have gone to charity but instead it goes to chartered flights and hotel rooms for two unelectable candidates. President McCain. Get used to rolling it off of your tongues.

Posted by: Optimist | April 14, 2008 10:35 PM

I don't understand why the mainstream media goes with the story that The McCain and Clinton campaigns want in the news and not the real story. Why isn't anyone telling the truth about Senator Obama's comments. In fact he was trying to explain to a wealthy group of supporters that he wanted to give actual help to people in economically depressed areas but that some people in those areas were hard to convince that he really cared because of a long history of getting little more than promises from Washington. His comments began with this statement almost always left out of the quote attributed to him: "But the truth is, is that, our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there's not evidence of that in their daily lives." His real point is that people have become bitter because they don't see anything being done by their government to help them. He wants to help them. He wants to put in place policies that will begin solving the problems of the most economically disadvantaged areas of our country. The problem is getting the people in those areas to believe that he really can do something substantive.

What people overlook is that he was taking a chance by telling wealthy supporters not what he wanted to do for them, even though they were at a fund raiser and probably giving him a lot of money, but rather what he was going to try to do for the every day working people in small town America who the government has been ignoring.

Posted by: clw743 | April 14, 2008 10:34 PM

April 14, 2008 10:28 PM,
I'm not too worried about Obama getting elected. His support is a mile wide and an inch deep.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 10:33 PM

Not another Clinton in the White House! Ever! Again! I'm bitter and will not vote for Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton! Or her husband or her daughter or any of her kinfolk!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 10:33 PM

Yeah, I'm bitter and voting OBAMA!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 10:32 PM

tony, yes, Hillary think the electorate will buy the line? Who is the elitist here, again? H-I-L-L-A-R-Y! HILLARY! That Bush-like Rovian Republican named Hillary Rodham Clinton!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 10:30 PM

DON'T BE DUPED !!!

Large numbers of Republicans have been voting for Barack Obama in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses from early on. Because they feel he would be a weaker opponent against John McCain. With Hillary Clinton you are almost 100% certain to get quality, affordable universal health care very soon.

But first, all of you have to make certain that Hillary Clinton takes the democratic nomination and then the Whitehouse. NOW! is the time. THIS! is the moment you have all been working, and waiting for. You can do this America. "Carpe diem" (harvest the day).

I think Hillary Clinton see's a beautiful world of plenty for all. She's a woman, and a mother. And it's time America. Do this for your-selves, and your children's future. You will have to work together on this and be aggressive, relentless, and creative. Americans face an even worse catastrophe ahead than the one you are living through now.

You see, the medical and insurance industry mostly support the republicans with the money they ripped off from you. And they don't want you to have quality, affordable universal health care. They want to be able to continue to rip you off, and kill you and your children by continuing to deny you life saving medical care that you have already paid for. So they can continue to make more immoral profits for them-selves.

Hillary Clinton has actually won by much larger margins than the vote totals showed. And lost by much smaller vote margins than the vote totals showed. Her delegate count is actually much higher than it shows. And higher than Obama's. She also leads in the electoral college numbers that you must win to become President in the November national election. HILLARY CLINTON IS ALREADY THE TRUE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!

As much as 30% of Obama's primary, and caucus votes are Republicans trying to choose the weakest democratic candidate for McCain to run against. These Republicans have been gaming the caucuses where it is easier to vote cheat. This is why Obama has not been able to win the BIG! states primaries. Even with Republican vote cheating help.

Hillary Clinton has been OUT MANNED! OUT GUNNED! and OUT SPENT! 4 and 5 to 1. Yet Obama has only been able to manage a very tenuous, and questionable tie with Hillary Clinton.

If Obama is the democratic nominee for the national election in November he will be slaughtered. Because the Republican vote cheating help will suddenly evaporate. All of this vote fraud and republican manipulation has made Obama falsely look like a much stronger candidate than he really is. YOUNG PEOPLE. DON'T BE DUPED! Think about it. You have the most to lose.

The democratic party needs to fix this outrage. Everyone needs to throw all your support to Hillary Clinton NOW! So you can end this outrage against YOU the voter, and against democracy.
The democratic party, and the super-delegates have a decision to make. Are the democrats, and the democratic party going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee to fight for the American people. Or are the republicans going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee through vote fraud, and gaming the DEMOCRATIC party primaries, and caucuses.

Fortunately the Clinton's have been able to hold on against this fraudulent outrage with those repeated dramatic comebacks of Hillary Clinton's. Only the Clinton's are that resourceful, and strong. Hillary Clinton is your NOMINEE. They are the best I have ever seen.

"This is not a game" (Hillary Clinton)

Sincerely

jacksmith...

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 10:30 PM

you uber elitists pseudo intellectual posers have heaped on her?

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 10:23 PM

LOL now that's funny, coming from a pseudo intellectual uber troll.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 10:30 PM

Good post Jack. You supply the intellect and I'll supply vitriol. We'll make a good one two punch on these losers.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 10:30 PM

MY FELLOW BITTER, STUPID, WORKING CLASS PEOPLE.

YOU MIGHT BE AN IDIOT, TOO :-(

If you think like Barack Obama, that WORKING CLASS PEOPLE are just a bunch of BITTER!, STUPID, PEASANTS, Cash COWS!, and CANNON FODDER. :-(

You Might Be An Idiot, Too!

If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.

You Might Be An Idiot, Too!

If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot, Too!

If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.

You Might Be An Idiot, Too!

If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!

You Might Be An Idiot, Too!

If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot, Too!

If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary's than they had ever been before or since.

You Might Be An Idiot, Too!

If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot, Too!

If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..

You Might Be An Idiot, Too!

If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton. :-)

Best regards

jacksmith...

p.s.

If you don't know that the huge amounts of money funding the Obama campaign to try and defeat Hillary Clinton is coming in from the insurance, and medical industry, that has been ripping you off, and killing you and your children. And denying you, and your loved ones the life saving medical care you needed. All just so they can make more huge immoral profits for them-selves off of your suffering...

You Might Be An Idiot, Too!

You see, back in 1993 Hillary Clinton had the audacity, and nerve to try and get quality, affordable universal health care for everyone to prevent the suffering and needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of you each year. :-)

Approx. 100,000 of you die each year from medical accidents from a rush to profit by the insurance, and medical industry. Another 120,000 of you die each year from treatable illness that people in other developed countries don't die from. And I could go on, and on...

Posted by: jacksmith | April 14, 2008 10:29 PM

As I have said repeatedly, Hilary is a charlatan and a shameless demagogue. What she hopes to achieve with this latest distortion is to distract the voters of PA from the reports of her husband's hands in the trouser pockets of the Chinese and the Colombians, among others. If you fall for it shame on you. The woman cannot be trusted as far as you throw her. Again I must reiterate she has no integrity, absolutely no credibility and she is hurting the party's chances in the general election by giving the GOP all the ammunition they need. Say NO TO HI-LIAR-RY!

Posted by: tydicea | April 14, 2008 10:29 PM

I second that....HILLARY, YOU GO GIRL!! squimish BHO cannot handle the fight....gotta cry foul each time he screws up and Hillary calls him on it. Course, it's only dirty politics when Hillary does that....when he does it, it's ok with his kool-aid drinking buddies. bunch of weenies.....

Posted by: ogdeeds | April 14, 2008 10:28 PM

John, what are you going to do when Obama is elected President of the United States? You'll be out of work as a Clinton troll. HAHAHAHAHA!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 10:28 PM

Is that all you can get on Obama?

Hillary--pretend you're a Republican, then give it all you've got.

Oh, that's right, you already are one.

PS: HRC thinks the demographic in this tv spot is stupid enough to fall for this trick. sad, isn't it?

Posted by: tony | April 14, 2008 10:27 PM

At least I'm not bitter. Or clinging to anything.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 10:27 PM

Clintonistas! I saw Hillary knocking a few back and this lame commercial, no wonder she is behind! And she will get further behind when all the super-dels leave her arse! OBAMA '08!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 10:26 PM

I'm not bored. I'm having a great time sticking it to you Obamabots.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 10:26 PM

I'm focusing on the positives and here are my reasons for supporting Hillary:
Hillary Clinton has the best policies for every facet of government. She is simply the best candidate for the job. Undecided voters should closely examine her statements on www.hillaryclinton.com. By the way, I am not part of Hillary's campaign, simply a well-informed and well-educated citizen who supports Hillary. Hillary is smart, experienced, knowledgeable, able to make nuanced decisions and resilient, all qualities that will make her a good president.

HEALTH CARE - Hillary's plan covers everyone and will require participation on the part of both citizen and government. Everyone chips in and her plan will start to re-prioritize to make health care accessible and affordable to everyone.

FOREIGN POLICY - as First Lady then a 2-term senator from a major state, Hillary has had extended first hand exposure to foreign policy. It is doing our country a disservice by choosing to ignore her accomplishments and focusing on the Bosnia sniper fire controversy, which was a clear example of the media and Obama supporters making a mountain out of a molehill. The hoopla fails to acknowledge her real accomplishments during that trip as well as her role in the Northern Ireland negotiations. Hillary's plan for Iraq is realistic and takes into account unanticipated problems that might emerge in that part of the country at the time of withdrawal. The idea that an anti-war speech in 2002 without the consequences of decision-making somehow elevates Sen. Obama to moral high ground is irrational justification. 20/20 hindsight doesn't work in the real world when confronted with tough decision-making. The most important point now, as pointed out by Hillary, is to determine the best forward-moving strategy: how to stabilize our economy by ending the war, bringing our troops home and taking care of the veterans, and exiting in an honorable fashion.

ECONOMY - Hillary has detailed plans that address all facets of our failing and unstable economy: trade, foreclosures, manufacturing stagnation. Reality cannot be described in black and white terms. I do not see any contradiction in Hillary's support of some facets of free trade and at the same time being critical of other aspects. The fact is free trade does help to lower consumer costs. US manufacturers and workers have to re-invent and re-tool to remain competitive. Trying to hold on to $35/hr union jobs for handing out tools in the automobile industry is not a formula for success in the 21st century. Hillary's proposal for green jobs (she recognized its importance long before Obama incorporated it into his proposals) is the first step in the right direction. Hillary also recognizes the fact that women earn less than men for the same job and that minority women earn even less. I believe Sen. Clinton when she says she will address that inequality when she becomes President.

EDUCATION - Hillary's long involvement in education sets her aside from her competitors. She recognizes that to make the US a leader again, the education system has to be revamped, starting at the most elementary levels. Teaching has to be reinstated as an honorable job with appropriate compensation. It is a disgrace that US high schoolers score well below their Asian counterparts in science and math. Without adequate grounding in those disciplines, it is impossible to see how the US can compete with emerging powers in Asia in the decades to come. By re-investing in research and technology, Hillary will undo the damage done by the past 8 years of the Bush administration and nurture a future generation of enthusiastic, science and technology savvy can-do leaders for the 22nd century.

It is essential we take a long hard look at what each of the 3 candidates bring to the table and let our heads not emotions make the vital decision.

Posted by: alee21 | April 14, 2008 10:26 PM

Truly it's amazing to see how many people are willing to trash an entire campaign over single issues, and deny evidence to hold their own candidate up as a god / goddess. Let me lay out some quick obervations of the two democratic candidates in as unbiased and truthful fashion as I can.

Clinton: 1) More experience than Obama. Sorry die-hard Obama fans, but even discounting the first lady years (most of which dont count, but I'm sure I would pick up some useful tips living in the White House and married to a president) she still has an additional five years in the Senate (I dont count Illinois Senate for Obama just because I'm from Illinois, and believe me they were not working very hard) during which she's done a pretty good job.
2) Probably will not fix US reputation abroad. She'll be seen as a change because she is a Democrat, but her foreign policy is remarkably similar to Bush's with the exception of Iraq. She has neither the potential of Obama's proposed talks to enemies nor McCain's new coalition of allies.
3) Career Politician: has a long history of switching positions on issues, using slander and negative campaigning, and has what might be referred to as an aversion to history. Certainly nothing out of the ordinary, but it calls into question her credibility on some of central campaign issues.

Obama: 1) No strategic or military experience or obervation. While Obama has enough familiarity with the law and how things work from both the Illinois and US Senate, the Illinois Senate hardly provides military issues. Clinton can, if all else fails, simply mimic the steps taken by Bill during Bosnia, Haiti, etc., which were remarkably effective and under the radar.
2) Even if he messes up, at least he's trying. While I found Obama's comments mildly offensive (forget the bitter comment, but the "cling to" comment and what came after kind of burned), I forgave him because at least he's trying to speak to the heart of the issues instead of just talking about economic programs that wont pass and universal health care that we cant afford.
3) ALSO a Politician: If you think Obama's a saint, you aren't looking hard enough. He obviously engages in some of the same "pandering" that he accuses Clinton of. Has tried a flexibility with the truth as observed with the Rev. Wright issue, but after that backfired he seems to be trying to stick to the facts. Gets credit for trying to avoid negative campaigning even if he isnt much less of a stereotypical politico thasn his opponent.

I could go on for both candidates, but I really doubt anyone actually read all that. I agree, the flamboyant all-caps posts are more entertaining even if they make me sick to my stomach about the state of the American electorate. Anyway, cheers.

Posted by: Jack | April 14, 2008 10:24 PM

So now the Clinton camp is being rude to your guy? Aren't we easily offended. After all the scorn you uber elitists pseudo intellectual posers have heaped on her?

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 10:23 PM

egc52556 - what are you doing spouting common sense in a place like this? This is where we come to spew our semi-informed partisan vitriol at the end of a long day's work. (Ok, some of us do it in the middle of the day, but who am I to judge?) This is how it's always been, likely since the dawn of ARPANET.

BTW, I still support Obama, and I would be interested to see if anyone has actually changed their votes based on this latest non-apology over a non-gaffe.

Posted by: gotdebt | April 14, 2008 10:23 PM

Obama was right! As anyone can see as they read through this blog, the flustration, the bitterness, and loss of hope is here for all to read. Those who are upset with Sen. Obama for setting forth an example of the truth. As he has said before. "I will tell you the truth which is what you need to hear and NOT what you want to hear."

Posted by: Robert | April 14, 2008 10:21 PM

Somewhere in one of these "bitter" towns in middle America is a desk at a used car lot waiting for Obama. There, at least, his slick words will do some good by putting some hapless slug in a cheap Biscayne with four new tires.

Posted by: PolTroll | April 14, 2008 10:20 PM

But can you hold your liquor?

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 10:06 PM

Few things are more boring than a troll that thinks its clever.

Posted by: Michael G. | April 14, 2008 10:20 PM

Having grown up and lived in the Pittsburgh area until the steel mills closed, I may have a feel for how things were there.I was not
offended in the least about Mr.Obama's speech in S.F..Whenever he
speaks with more truth than the others,he's lambasted because
they haven't found squat on the guy .It's getting late in the race
and Clinton has yet to find something that will stick!

Posted by: mb | April 14, 2008 10:20 PM

Barack Obama is the kind of leader/politician that comes along once in a lifetime. Hillary is part of the problem in Washington. She is also a polarizing figure who won't be able to get anything done. People just don't like her, and now even many Democrats don't like her because of the way she's acted in this campaign. It's very clear that the powers that be, the status quo, are scared to death of Senator Obama, and I include the Clinton machine in that mix. Why do you suppose they are so afraid? It's because they believe this guy can shake things up in Washington. They're afraid he will actually stand up to corporations, lobbyists, and special interests. I sure would hate to see this country pass up this opportunity to put a president in the White House who actually intends to work for average Americans. Do I think Obama is perfect and won't make mistakes? Of course not. Do I think he'll be able to accomplish everything on his agenda? Of course not. But it's a start in the right direction. I believe he has the ability to inspire, communicate, educate, and motivate. That's what a leader does. I trust him. He's about as authentic as you'll ever find in a politician. When this campaign first began, my heart was with Obama, but my head was with Hillary. Now, my head and heart are both with Obama after seeing the despicable way Hillary has conducted herself throughout this campaign. I made a contribution to Obama's campaign, and plan to do so again in the next few days. I just can't bring myself to do the same for Hillary, anymore than I can see volunteering for her campaign, as I did for Kerry, Jim Webb, and Tim Kaine, all of whom I deeply believed in. My heart just isn't in it for Hillary. And it actually saddens me to say that because I really did used to like her.

Posted by: spicegal | April 14, 2008 10:19 PM

In case you haven't seen it yet...

Video of a half-awake if not ghoulish-looking Shrillary gets boos for trashing up Obama.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24109989#24109989

Hey, don't blame me--I'm just a messenger.

Posted by: binkynh | April 14, 2008 10:19 PM

It's a fascinating irony, the distillation of "condescension" out of an observation of just how, in fact, groups of voters are indeed amenable to exploitation by the real elites, the ones who actually have the megabucks, the helms of the bigger corporations, the megalobbyists, etc. And so that exploitation of Obama's comments actually just proving the comments all that much more true. He didn't invent the political calculus of creating Reagan Democrats; the Republicans perfected it, both north and south. Hence Ronnie opening his presidential campaign in the Miss. town synonymous with racist violence. But all of the sudden, the real villain is the Democratic chablis-sipping elites. That's funny. By the way, San Francisco is one of the greatest cities in the world. And I'm from Massachusetts, grew up ethnic working class in the rural western part of the state, still go to church every Sunday with my wife and kids, and guess what, am proud to be from the only state in the union that legalized gay marriage. And I'm a married white male. Go figure. And go Obama. If "liberal" meant "tax-and-spend," then no, call out some blue dogs. But if "liberal" means opposition to the way Republicans and wannabe Republicans like Hillary have run things, then count me in. Bush/Delay waste and fraud have actually overturned the old dichotomy: Bill Clinton and Robert Rubin were better stewards of the Treasury than the current clowns. So just spare me the old hat, the old lines, the old horse manure. It's like a vortex of baloney, a gravitational pull into the same old realm of negativity. "Obamabots"? "B. Hussein Obama"? Nuff said. As Zappa might have said, take your desperations and your defenses of the indefensible and ram them up your snout.

Posted by: Kosmik Debris | April 14, 2008 10:18 PM

I agree...Hilary is pathetic!

Posted by: lizard3 | April 14, 2008 10:17 PM

Does ANYONE in the Obama campaign have a pair?

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 10:17 PM

Having grown up and lived in the Pittsburgh area until the steel mills closed, I may have a feel for how things were there.I was not
offended in the least about Mr.Obama's speech in S.F..Whenever he
speaks with more truth than the others,he's lambasted because
they haven't found squat on the guy .It's getting late in the race
and Clinton has yet to find something that will stick!

Posted by: mb | April 14, 2008 10:17 PM

are all of you hillary supporters spending all your time smoking crack?

I mean, hey, the primary isnt over, she can run forever if she wants, but do you really believe all this tripe you are spewing? Nobody says Hillary can't be president. Nobody says anything about her except for her willingness to throw the kitchen sink at Barack. (Her staffs words, not mine)

You throw all this vitriol, accusing all of our support for Obama of identity politics of some sort or another. Stop being rude!

You support Hillary. Great! She is a strong candidate with views I can get behind. Barack's views? The same!

Even if you think anything he has said or done is condescending, or inappropriate, you have to recognize that there is in no way shape or form a coherent argument saying he is any less electable then Hillary. For every Rezko, you have at least two clinton skeletons. For every Wright there is a Tuzla, and when you think maybe Obama might be subject to being painted as a liberal, do you remember what lost us the last election? Flip flopper. Hillary Clinton, that champion of gun control in 2000, is now a champion of hunters and gun owners everywhere. Hillary Clinton, the SAME woman who declared it ok to take money from PACs and special interests, because it doesnt mean she listens to them, is now the champion of the people? Hillary, whose "experience" came out of being first lady in Bills presidency, is anti-NAFTA? the Clinton administration's greatest accomplishment?

Tone it down people. Its all of our responsibility to make sure the Dems win in November, and you wackadoo supporters (on both sides!) are doing nothing but McCain's dirty work.

Posted by: Tom W | April 14, 2008 10:16 PM

So now some Obamabot wants to turn bitterness and clingyness into a source of strength. Take me Lord, I've seen it all now.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 10:14 PM

The trolls are in a frenzy. You can practically see the foam on their lips.

With nothing of value to offer, the sad, angry little trolls, lob their hate bombs hoping someone will pay them the least bit of attention.

Posted by: Saltwater | April 14, 2008 10:10 PM

I have you know I've got a social life. I going to our state democratic convention and hang out with some other Clintonistas. I just hope there aren't any sad sack loser Obamabots around to bring everybody down with their bitterness.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 10:10 PM

she is so sleazy. yuk!

Posted by: disgusted | April 14, 2008 10:10 PM

Never let it be said that Hillary isn't thinking long-term. Her only hope this year is to utterly trash Obama, like with her current sleazy TV spot. If that kind of gutter dreck wins her the Democratic nomination, she'll lose to McCain, but in four years she'll be back wearing a halo -- and all women will be pressured to vote for her, or else get vilified as traitors to their gender.

If the 2008 general election becomes Hillary versus McCain, I plan to vote Libertarian.

Posted by: oldhonky | April 14, 2008 10:10 PM

Yeah...keep it up Hillary! Beat it into the ground until it blows up in your own face!! It's been working great for Obama so far!!!

Posted by: Btter Jefferson Madison | April 14, 2008 10:09 PM

Obama's campaign is getting a little slow and sloppy. I thought for sure that Obama would have an ad out by today touting his childhood experience of being raised by his teen mother on food stamps along with help from his grandparents and living in a poor village in Indonesia, then fast forward with Obama getting scholarships and loans to attend college with some young and older working-class white voters saying something like "Obama's experience is not that different from my experience".

The END

Posted by: AJ, PA | April 14, 2008 10:09 PM

And just what was Obama doing saying that Clinton and Bush are reponsible for people being supposedly bitter?

Bashing Bill Clinton.

Being a regular pol in a suit.

Posted by: Comment | April 14, 2008 10:09 PM

Thanks Hillary. That's a few million that we can keep in our GOP coffers. Keep up the good work!

Posted by: McCain Supporter | April 14, 2008 10:09 PM

How does Chelsea Clinton gets a job paying way over $100,000 on her first job after College?
Answer: By being a daughter of elitist Hillary Clinton!

Posted by: John Doe | April 14, 2008 10:08 PM

The fact is that EVERYONE says something stupid now and then. Hillary Clinton's list includes being for and against the Iraq war, claiming to have dodged bullets in Bosnia, and claiming to have the superior wisdom on health insurance based on her massive mishandling of the issue when Bill Clinton was president.
John McCain claimed that Baghdad was safe while having to wear a flak jacket and being surrounded by troops and under the cover of hovering helicopters, condemning and yet embracing fundamentalist loonies, condemning and yet condoning water-boarding, confessing bafflement about economics and yet promising to continue the Bush administration's catastrophic policies.
And now Barack Obama has tripped over his own feet by musing that frustration and bitterness drive people to embrace typical resentment-filled conservative positions on God, guns, and gays. There may be some truth in that observation, but it was a foolish thing to say.
So all 3 candidates have said stupid things. What strikes me is that McCain and Clinton instantly attacked Obama for his gaffe in virtually identical terms, but he did not attack them for their multiple gaffes, because attack-dog politics is not his style. He is still the best candidate for America, by far, for exactly that reason.

Posted by: Steve | April 14, 2008 10:07 PM

Can a bitter person cling to something to alleviate the pain, or is that a non American reality? Americans all throughout our history have been bitter, at times to the extreme, like during the formation of the KKK. There is nothing wrong with Americans being bitter.

There is also nothing wrong with clinging to something or an idea. Our fore fathers, who came on the Mayflower, clung to an idea of a better future, and look where that got us

Bitterness and clingyness (thanks President Bush for allowing me the freedom to use clingyness) are American traits that can make us strong or weak. I'm for using those traits to make us stronger.

USA

Posted by: Abi | April 14, 2008 10:07 PM

I Mark Penn, support the Columbian Free Trade Agreement; just like William Jefferson Clinton supports the Columbian Free Trade Agreement (for a fee, of course).

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 10:07 PM

Oh, you Obamabots are so intellectual it's almost enough to make me puke. But can you hold your liquor?

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 10:06 PM

John said:
>Hey when the last time any of you Obamabots had a date?

and then said...

>"I wish I was out drinking with Hillary instead of blogging with a bunch of loser Obamabots."

Frankly, it sounds like John is pretty lonely and looking to bond with Hillary supporters to get a social life. I think you can go Hilary's website for that one.

You have yet to explain why Hillary is willing to keep the CAFTA-lovin' Mark Penn on her payroll and even the egotistic Bill Clinton who also supports CAFTA, as campaign minon stumping for her. It's smart, but nasty politics that the average American voter should consider an insult.

Simply, this only shows that Hillary is staying to wait for any small and potentially insignificant opening to convince superdelegates to vote against the will of the American people. This is the latest one. When a Bosnia liar and a NAFTA/CAFTA hypocrite who lies to PA voters to give what the people want. I'm not 100% for either individual candidate, but being a Democrat, I'd rather vote for the somewhat politically naive Obama rather than align with the old predatory and disingenous Clintons.

All PA Democrats - ignore the petty perception wars and just consider the issues ...you'll find that aside from their universal healthcare plan, the Clintons are nothing more than Centrist Republicans who espouse global trade, believe in the imperialistic charge for the proxy war on oil with China at the expense of American jobs.

Posted by: mlkrn | April 14, 2008 10:05 PM

I will drink a shot and down a beer the evening of April 22nd, when Hillary takes a major dive in the primary.

This new ad really shows how stupid she thinks people are. What pandering.

Come on, PA! Let's put this ridiculous charade to rest next week. Obama '08

Posted by: PA Voter | April 14, 2008 10:05 PM

Obama LAUNDRY LIST OF LIES.
1.) Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.

2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had

4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.

5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

6.) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.

7.) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.

8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).

9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.

10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.

11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.

12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.

13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - LIAR, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.

16.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois - LIAR, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.

17.) Oops, I Misvoted - LIAR, only when caught by church groups and democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - LIAR, you didn't write it,introduce it, change it, or create it.

21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - LIAR, it took just 14 days from start to finish.

22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

23.) I Have Released My State Records - LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.

24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - LIAR, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.

25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - LIAR, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.

26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - LIAR, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - LIAR, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

28.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA - LIAR, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.

29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel.

30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.

31.) I Didn't Run Ads In Florida - LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks - and you still lost.

32.) I Won Michigan - LIAR, no you didn't.

33.) I won Nevada - LIAR, no you did not.

34.) I Want All Votes To Count - LIAR, you said let the delegates decide.

35.) I Want Americans To Decide - LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.

36.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - LIAR, you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself.

37.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend - LIAR, that friend is threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped saying this.

38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.

39.) I Don't Take PAC Money - LIAR, you take loads of it.

40.) I don't Have Lobbysists - LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.

41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - LIAR, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

42.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace - LIAR, Tom, who started MySpace issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.

43.) I Inspire People With My Words - LIAR, you inspire people with other people's words.

44.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate - LIAR, you have passed A BILL in the U.S. Senate - for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.

45.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - LIAR, you weren't in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date - AGAIN.

46.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - LIAR, your plan leaves us all to pay the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it.

47.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail - LIAR, both companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict have no record of any such letter ever being created or sent.

48.) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone - LIAR, you won't wear a flag pin and you don't put your hand over your heart during the Anthem.

49.) My Wife Didn't Mean What She Said About Pride In Country - LIAR, your wife's words follow lock-step in the vain of Wright and Farrahkan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America.

50.) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn't Support - LIAR, your wife has received nearly a quater of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is connected to Wal-Mart.

51.) Treehouse Is A Small Company - LIAR, the CEO of Treehouse last year, made more than the CEO of Wal-Mart, according to public records.

52.) University Of Chicago Hospital Pay Is Fair - LIAR, your wife's pay raise was nearly 150% her already bloated rate and the hospital is a Non-Profit Hospital, which made $100,000,000 in the last 3 years. They overcharge blacks VS whites for services, and overcharge everyone in general by 538%!

53.)I Barely Know Rezko - Only 5 Billed Hours - LIAR, you have known him for 17 years, and decided to do a real estate deal with him during a time when he was proven to be under investigation. Despite this, you divided your property and had them take off $300K before the mortgage problems started. Then Rezko's wife buys the lot beside it that you can't afford, saving you $625,000.

54.) My Donations Have Been Checked Thoroughly - LIAR, you only gave back Hsu ($72K) and Rezko ($150K) their money when publically called on their involvement in your campaigns.

55.) My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church - LIAR, your church is so extreme, the pastor who married you, Rev. Wright, just got done blaming the US for 9/11 and named Louis Farrahkan their person of the year.

56.) I Disagree With My Church All The Time - LIAR, you still have yet to repudiate Wright, who married you and your wife, and you still donate large sums of money to assist the church in furthering its message - hatred and revenge. You donated in 2006 alone, $22,500 to the church that you so terribly disagree with. That is nearly $500 PER WEEK - that sure is disagreement, Senator Obama.

57.) I Have Clean Connections Despite Rezko - LIAR, you are not only connected to Exelon and Rezko, you are also connected to Hillary PAC supporter Mr. Hsu, AND an Iraqi Billionaire of ill repute, Nadhmi Auchi, who ripped off people in the Food For Oil, Iraqi deal. Seems Mr. Auchi may have helped Obama buy his million dollar property long before Obama had millions of dollars. Wonder what favors Mr. Auchi expects, when Obama leaves Iraq free to be taken over by special interests such as him.

58.) I never heard sermons like Rev. Wright's, that have been in videos all day, You Tube - LIAR! 3 days later during your Mea Culpa BS speech you said "Did I hear controversial statements while sitting in the pew yes!"

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 10:04 PM

Hillary is pathetic!

Posted by: wetlander | April 14, 2008 10:04 PM

As usual Clinton does not know the truth when she sees it. What Obama said has long been the subject of political commentaries, including What's Wrong with Kansas and Deer Hunting for Jesus (about Winchester, Virginia). And the original Deer Hunter movie, about a Russian emigre community in industrial Pennsylvania showed the frustration even in the 60s when the economy was changing then.

Posted by: ejgallagher1 | April 14, 2008 10:02 PM

That add is so hard hitting. Obama must be shaking in his boots. He might have to wait for the results of the Puerto Rico primary before he wins. That is unless Bill comes to Obama's rescue.

Posted by: gator-ron | April 14, 2008 10:02 PM


San Franciso fund raisers: Why is rural America not voting for you?

Obama: Because they are racists.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 10:01 PM

HILLARY has...
ENDORSED NAFTA ,VOTED "yes" TO 100% DUTY TRADE WITH THE MIDDLE EAST,BACKS COLUMBIA TRADE AGREEMENT (800,000 WORTH)HAS FOREIGN
INVESTMENTS,KEEPS HER CONVERSATIONS PRIVATE
ATTEMPTS TO BLACKMAIL SUPER DELEGATES.
LIES ABOUT BOSNIA. TODAY WATCHING HER SPEECH YET ANOTHER STORY..HOW IN 2000 SHE WAS ON A TRAIN, YES A TRAIN AND IT JUST HAPPENED THE WHOLE TRAIN WAS FULL OF UNEMPLOYED STEEL WORKERS. I AM NOT KIDDING THIS WAS SAID IN PITTSBURGH AND GUESS WHAT HAPPENED NEXT...THEY TOLD HER ALL THEIR PROBLEMS. SHE KNOWS HOW US MIDDLE CLASS FEELS.. YEP SHE DOES, HEARD IT ON A TRAIN IN 2000. IT'S SAD HOW GULLABLE PEOPLE CAN BE. INSTEAD OF HEALTH CARE CLINTONS BROUGHT US NAFTA. WHO'S GREAT FRIENDS WITH BUSHS FATHER??? THEY GOLF ALL THE TIME TOGETHER. WHO HAD SECRET MEETING WITH SAUDI? WHO WAS SO INVOLVED IN LIEING TO US ABOUT AN AFFAIR THAT BIN LADEN GOT AWAY.
WHO OWES ALOT OF PEOPLE FAVORS WHEN SHE GETS INTO OFFICE??? WHO KEEPS PENN ON HER PAYROLL??? WHO HASN'T PAID DEBTS OWED IN CALIFORNIA,ILLINOIS,TEXAS,AND OHIO FROM HER CAMPAIGNS THERE. WHO TELLS STORIES ABOUT HOSPITALS NOT PROVIDING CARE.WHAT FAMILY NAME HAS USED US TO GAIN POWER??
WHO IS A BOARD MEMBER OF WALMART? ISN'T WALMART THE #1 IMPORTER OF GOODS FROM CHINA?
THE BOTTOM LINE OBAMA WAS TRYING TO PROTECT US FROM BEING CALLED "RACISTS" BY THE SNOBS IN SAN FRANCISCO. HE TRYED TO TELL THEM HOW WE WERE FEELING. A FEW WORDS
WEREN'T THE MOST WELL CHOSEN.PERHAPS HE'S NOT THE MOST COMFORTABLE AROUND RICH SNOBS LIKE HILLARY IS...AS A WHITE,CATHOLIC UNION WORKER
THE QUESTION IS THIS. WHAT HAS CAUSED MY ANXIETY....NAFTA,NAFTA,NAFTA,NAFTA WHO'S RESPONSIBLE???? CLINTONS,CLINTONS,CLINTONS

Posted by: fed up | April 14, 2008 10:01 PM

The Obamabots are such desperate, bitter losers they are now begging Al Gore to rescue them. You don't hear any proud Clintonistas begging anybody for anything. We would like to have some of those endorsements but we are not going to grovel for them like the Obamabots.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 10:00 PM

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Obama's new campaign slogan:

BITERNESS YOU CAN BELIEVE IN
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Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 10:00 PM

Everyone relax, take a deep breath, and smile.

Posted by: Eric | April 14, 2008 10:00 PM

Whoever posted that about Hillary getting booed is RIGHT!

She gets booed for trying to pile on more BS for a non-existant story.

Serves her right!

By the way, how DID Obama's words get leaked out of the 'San Francisco Fundraiser?'

The cheating mayor of San Francisco supports Hillary, so maybe that's the real story.

BACK FIRED!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted by: HAHAHAHAHA | April 14, 2008 9:59 PM

San Franciso fund raisers: Why is rural America not voting for you?

Obama: Because they love God too much.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 9:59 PM

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NEOCONS FOR HILLARY


William Kristol: chief architect of the Iraq war

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/14/opinion/14kristol.html?em&ex=1208318400&en=ad468064a7c2fda0&ei=5087%0A

.

Posted by: . | April 14, 2008 9:58 PM

Nobody's going to read this comment, because people only write here and don't care what other people say.

In that light: raise your hand if you've changed your mind about who you are going to vote for because of Obama's comments.

Anybody?

No. See? Nobody cares. And all of the Queen's horses can't get her campaign back on track again.

Posted by: egc52556 | April 14, 2008 9:56 PM

How about an ad for each of these Obama lies:


Obama said he was for a single payer health system, but now opposes plans that cover every American.

He promised to repeal the Patriot Act, but then voted to extend it.

He promised to normalize relations with Cuba, but flip-flopped when he started running for president.

He rails against NAFTA in Ohio while his top economic advisor assures the Canadians his rhetoric is just "political positioning."

He promises to opt in to public financing if the GOP nominee does, but then breaks that pledge in real time.

He promises to withdraw from Iraq within 16 months, and now his top foreign policy adviser says that he's not relying on the plan.

At first he knew of no controversial remarks from his pastor. Then he knew it. Then he knew some but not others.

At first the "union" that brought him into this world was caused by the bridge crossing/civil rights movement in Selma which, by the way, actually happened 5 years afterwards. Long after he was born.

He flattered Kennedys by crediting them for funding his father's arrival to US when the Kennedys had nothing to do with it.

Don't even get me going over the questionnaires he has filled indicating positions he has completely contradicted during this campaign cycle.

Obama claims he doesn't take money from lobbyists. Semantics. Because about HALF of his donations come from big donors and "bundlers" who in terms of influence on campaign and favors they expect in return are not much different from lobbyists. His bundlers include partners from 18 top law firms, 21 Wall Street executives and power brokers from Fortune 500 companies. Use of bundlers was perfected by George W. Bush who established a hierarchy of "Rangers" and "Pioneers" to monitor their progress.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 9:56 PM

Hilary makes me sick. She is damaging the party's chance. Why can't the party step in and stop her.

Gosh! She has no integrity whatsoever. I will never never vote for her.

Posted by: Bonnie | April 14, 2008 9:56 PM

This despicable, wretched beast continues to find new cess pools to wallow in. She is a lying, "sniper dogging, gun slinging" crazed fraud that feels that pulling in $110 Million from the Big Dog is not enough. It is her turn to "stain" the Nation with a scorched earth, self righteous obsession to be annointed President. She should nauseate every American with any sense of dignity. Fortunately, I have an ocean front home in the West Indies and if God forbid this monster steals the nomination, a ready exit plan.

Posted by: Robert Luciano | April 14, 2008 9:55 PM

We love PA and we love Hillary Clinton. Join us.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 9:55 PM

Ms. Clinton may the best thing that ever happened to Wal-Mart, but she is not the best thing that ever happened for the US. She is without scruples, she is without morals. She is the best thing that ever happened for John McCain. I am from a town of less than 200 people and I am voting for Mr. Obama. He knows what is like to be a paycheck away from living in the streets. He knows the ravages of poverty. Clinton, born into unearned privilege, must take a fact finding trip to learn how we live. She ventures into our lives live she dodges bullets in Bosnia.

Posted by: DesertCrier | April 14, 2008 9:55 PM

Here's Obama discussing the same "bitter" insight in 2004 -- http://youtube.com/watch?v=a88wMPAWc90.

His point of view is clear, consistent and in context.

Posted by: Saltwater | April 14, 2008 9:55 PM

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Obama's new campaign slogan:

BITERNESS YOU CAN BELIEVE IN
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Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 9:54 PM

There's no bitterness in the Clinton camp. We are fired up and optimistic. We love PA!

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 9:54 PM

If the limousine liberals nominate Obama they will go down to defeat again in November. There just aren't enough latte sippers in the country to elect him.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 9:45 PM
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I sip lattes and this guy Obambi makes me puke!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 9:53 PM

Hillary is pathetic....... She is exactly what is wrong with politics... Time to turn the page

Amazing how Clinton lies repeatedly to America on purpose because she thinks she can get away with it. Then she says that she "misspoke" "once" because it was "late at night" and she was "tired."

In fact, she DELIBERATELY LIED MANY TIMES IN BROAD DAYLIGHT.

Then, Obama says something ONCE, OFF SCRIPT, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, and it's a damning insight into his secretly elitist views instead of an out-of-character, cryptic rant.

Posted by: Joseph | April 14, 2008 9:53 PM

If only Geoge Bush knew Hillary was such a gun loving sharp shooter and a nimble bullet dodger, he would have sent her to Tora Bora to get Osama bin Ladin instead of this costly war in Iraq.

Posted by: Ninja Hillary | April 14, 2008 9:52 PM

Barack Obama insults me at every turn. But Hillary Clinton assures me she supports my right to blame foreign labour for economic downturns. I like Hillary Clinton - she inoculates me against the truth and praises me for being a 'working American.' She understands and respects people like me - and is always quick to let me know my prejudices are perfectly acceptable and possibly even noble! I can't wait to engage in the honest dialogue and spirited national discussion that will surely follow once President Clinton is in power. Only 281 more sleeps!

Posted by: gotdeb | April 14, 2008 9:51 PM

You Obamabots are the most flaccid bunch of bitter losers I have ever seen. Give me some Clintonistas any day.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 9:50 PM

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OBAMA: "AND IT'S NOT SURPRISING, THEN, THEY GET BITTER, THEY CLING TO GUNS OR RELIGION OR ANTIPATHY TO PEOPLE WHO AREN'T LIKE THEM OR ANTI-IMMIGRANT SENTIMENT OR ANTI-TRADE SENTIMENT AS A WAY TO EXPLAIN THEIR FRUSTRATIONS"

In plain words: "If you are economically struggling then you become a Gun Lover, God Lover, Racist, Immigrant hating, Trade hating hick.
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Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 9:50 PM

despite his faux pas, & apart from his insincere mea culpa, obama tries to, as reporters put it (in a no-no idiomatic expression news report phrasing), "turn the tables" on hillary.

that's the one trouble with obama--& he's pretty much consistent on this tactic of his--for he always ascribe his fault (error of judgment, character flaw, poor thinking, so-so diction) to his political enemies, and never to himself, when he himself is the cause of his personal woes.

does obama really think this habit would endear himself to the american voters.

instead of truly owning up to his mistake, he tries to parry it by faulting hillary for "tearing the democratic apart."

omigosh, the nerve, the gall! he self-destructs, he demeans the pennsylvanians, & when people (hillary, critics, oterh well-meaning people pointing out his judgmental eeror) fault him for this, he says they're tearing the democratic party, that it's the typical political style.

you won't get the democratic nomination with this kind of behavior, boy.

barack, you have a serious attitudinal problem.

be gentleman enough. be really, honestly contrite. ask for people's forgiveness. admit your own mistakes, never blame other people for it. then make amends for it. people just might forgive you.

think about it, boy.****


Posted by: jennifer potenciano | April 14, 2008 9:49 PM

I definitely see alot of BITTERNESS from the Hillary supporters on this blog. It comes from the fact that Hillary is going to lose the nomination and NEVER become president.............The Clinton era is OVER, HA!HA!!HA!!!!!!

Posted by: Chris | April 14, 2008 9:49 PM

I think Hillary should just start drinking her way across PA. I'll sign on for that.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 9:48 PM

Quoted from elsewhere:
"Pro-War then Anti-war, Pro-Nafta then Anti-Nafta, Pro-gun control now Happy Hunter, Pro-Colombian interests now Anti-Colombian interests and now she has also found religion."

Any one but Hillary

Irish for O'bama, Obama-Gore or Gore-Obama -08!

Posted by: DrRay from Ohio | April 14, 2008 9:47 PM

It is truly amazing the way we delude ourselves for whatever is our particular cause. It is so amazing to hear how people seem to believe Hillary is the only democratic presidential candidate that is a liar. When Reverend Wright first became the news, the Obama campaign went into full spin stating that Obame was never their (in his 20 years of attendance) when Reverend wright made those comments. This was followed up with Obama himself stating on multiple news casts the he was never their and never heard the Reverend make those comments. Of course as we all know, that changed and then Obama said he "may" have been in attendence for some of the remarks. Then in his Glorious Come Together speech he finally told the truth (after he could LIE about it no longer) that he was their , but that it was all the white folks fault because we just didnt understand the black experience. Lord, what a manipulative individual he is. It had nothing to do about our understanding, it had to do with a preached that is a Bigot, Obama's support for that preacher, and Obama lying to us outright and blaming it all on us cause we just dont understand. This is when Slick-Bama lost me when he proved he could and would lie and manipulate just as much as all the rest, which made his entire campaign nothing but lies and manipulations.

Posted by: Selective Perception | April 14, 2008 9:45 PM

If the limousine liberals nominate Obama they will go down to defeat again in November. There just aren't enough latte sippers in the country to elect him.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 9:45 PM

The trouble started when the Chicago Democrat, after saying Washington had failed to stem the tide of lost jobs, dropped a bombshell on his fellow Americans by saying: "And it's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

In one sentence, Snob-ama de-legitimized every choice people in America are free to make. It's arrogance on steroids, fueled by a secular, elitist view of middle America as filled with ignorant red-necks.

Turn his screed around and it comes out this way: If the hicks had good jobs, they wouldn't need God or guns. Then the borders could be wide open for the enlightened world to come here 'cause our hate would vanish.

Such a dark view of heartland hearts is not very Christian and suggests Snob-ama really did hear the rants of his pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. The mentor who led him to Jesus Christ seems a bitter man who wraps his hate for America in the trappings of religion.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 9:43 PM

I am a low class hack. Pay no attention to me.

Posted by: JakeD | April 14, 2008 9:43 PM

I've lived here for my first 20 years, and I've been living here since 2003. Let me assure you, Senator Clinton: people in Pennsylvania are bitter.

When your advocacy for NAFTA cost us jobs, that made us bitter. WHen you lied and told us that you never supported NAFTA but the release of your papers show unequivocally that you ran advocacy meetings, that made us bitter. When your chief campaign strategist Mark Penn, head of the PR firm for Blackwater and Union Carbide Bhophal goes to Columbia to cut a deal to sell the Columbian free trade debacle back here in Congress, that made us bitter. When you didn't fire him but "demoted" him but kept him on, that made us bitter. When the after-effects of NAFTA, namely out of work Mexican farmers, have resulted in the biggest influx of cheap laborers who take our jobs, that makes us bitter.

When you utterly failed at health care reform, and now put the health insurance companies in the catbird seat by requiring everyone to buy coverage, that makes us bitter.

When your husband's peccadilloes turned the House and Senate and Presidency over to Republicans who then proceeded to dismantle our Constitution and our middle class, that made us bitter.

When you voted to take us to this disastrous war and ensuing occupation, bleeding us dry, and costing untold sorrow on so many families of our military, that made us bitter.

When a family's tax returns indicate an income of $109 million dollars and they have the balls to call someone else an "elitist," that makes us bitter.

When you complain how your summer cottage lacked utilities, that made us bitter. People who have to take a shower when they come home from work aren't used to having a summer outhouse, let alone a cottage.

So don't you be coming around here now putting Obama down for telling the truth. You're goddamn right we're bitter. And if you ever steal this nomination, the Democratic party will be damaged for an entire generation.

Posted by: trippin | April 14, 2008 9:42 PM

Barack Hussain Obama....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 9:41 PM

Small towns of USA: gun-toting, god-worshiping, anti-immigrant, anti-trade losers.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 9:41 PM

It is interesting how the Obama "haters" are so vicious, like: "at last, something bad that he actually said - I knew we would find something!!!!!!!!!!" Amazing since they are either supporting a liar who is definitely NOT "in touch" (she hasn't pumped gas herself for 25 years) or the supporter of the upper class and business. Obama made an error about many of the people in small towns - he is not quite "in touch", but the man is REAL, he cares, and he doesn't have $100M.

Posted by: Obama supporter | April 14, 2008 9:39 PM

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Obama's new campaign slogan:

BITERNESS YOU CAN BELIEVE IN
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Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 9:38 PM

"People are duped by some wealthy liberals in the america who love to destroy Clinton whatever way they could by propping up Obama." That's hillaryous! It was Hillary's wealthy liberals who threatened the DCCC with cutting off their millions in donations if Dean didn't 180 and say it was fine for superdelegates to ignore Democratic voters and caucusers and hand the nomination to Hillary. And those Obama donors in Marin (not SF) weren't all wealthy - believe it or not, there are poor, even homeless (mostly veterans) people in the Bay Area and all California, and regular struggling professionals, shift workers, students, the disabled and retirees who are investing in a vision with grassroots muscle behind it.

Thuggish tactics are despicable no matter which Party they're coming from! Obama's a great leader already. Many of us despise the Clintons now, two multimillionaires selling access to our great country to the highest bidding foreign dictator. Obama stays honest and civil, so we will too, but thank God Hillary's too arrogant to take VP. I don't want her lobbyists and Bill sneaking in through White House back doors.

Get even with the useless sensationalist media 3-ring circus - help Obama win in PA so we can get the Republican-talking points from a real Republican, instead of a fake Democratic candidate, finally!

Posted by: Earthbound | April 14, 2008 9:38 PM

What a bunch of doleful losers are the Obamabots. Come on over to the Hillary camp and we will revive you. We'll give you some testosterone injections, a shot of whiskey, and fit you for some brass knuckles. We'll make a man out of you.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 9:38 PM

Uggh...you Hillary people will countenance anything...do you really think that Obama was being elitist or just telling the plain truth. I'll be eltist and tell you that you are a bunch of idiots if you think what he said is not an accurate depiction of a winning republican strategy for the past years.

Posted by: bob garcia | April 14, 2008 9:37 PM

We are still waiting for a Pro Hillary Ad if she has one. She nows more about Obama than Obama does; because she read it all in the Book, President for Dummies written by the Wizzards: Mark Penn, Carville and Rove.

Posted by: Fareed | April 14, 2008 9:37 PM

I dislike Obama intensely because when it suits him he swings from a scoundrel to a saint so effortlessly. This whole race issue is a perfect illustration of it.

The race row really started when Bill Clinton called Obama's Iraq stand a "fairy tale". Apparently this phrase "fairy tale" is racist in any context. Where was Obama's high flown pedantry when Bill was being cruelly turned into a racist over this?

Hillary tried to say that activists (such as MLK) require Presidents/legislators (LBJ) to convert policies into law. According to Obama this statement is tinged with racism. Where was Obama's contextualizing and preaching for forbearance then?

Another one of his spiritual advisors from Harvard writes an op-ed saying the 3am ad is racist! For the first time in my life I saw even Obama supporters uncomfortably shrugging off that claim. Did we hear anything from Obama? Any post-racial calls?

Geraldine Ferraro at worst was crudely trying to say that Obama wouldn't have come this far in the race without 80-90% of the African-American vote. Perhaps an imprudent statement but it was made in a paid speech in an insignificant forum and would hardly have been noticed if Obama's camp had not pushed it. She was merely one of Hillary's hilariously big finance team. Where was Obama's mature outlook towards race then? What was especially galling was Obama, in his dysfunctional union speech, trying to equate Wright's hateful, anti-American speech with Ferraro's remarks! Whoa! This guy is positively reptilian. I mean, chameleons have more consistency than this multi-faceted slickster. To compare the hate speech of a mentor/spiritual advisor of 20 years with mildly insensitive remarks of a woman tangentially connected to Hillary's campaign is really something. And he wanted Ferraro to resign straight-away. He came with hatchets at her. Look at the cold-blooded nature of people like David Axelrod who sought and got Ferraro's support several times in the past for minority candidates and is known to be her friend. No benefit of doubt for a friend. No respect for a former democratic vice-presidential nominee.

That Obama's candidacy has been sustained by "we know what is good for you" attitude of mainstream press. That such intellectuals should be so naive is what is galls me. Did they really think a person who ginned up a real estate deal with a top-notch crook to add a 10 square foot of land to a $1.5 million dollar home is of any remarkable probity? How ding-dong in the head do you have to be to expect that such a person wouldn't be upto all sorts of other crookery?

And, of course, so it has been the last few weeks. All kinds of crookery. He relentlessly beats up Hillary for being supportive of NAFTA while his top economic aide comforts Canada - ah, don't worry, it's all campaign rhetoric. Approaching Iowa, he viciously beats up Hillary for not having a firm Iraq withdrawal date, for suggesting that such a date is hard to predict not knowing what she would inherit as president. Meanwhile, his top foreign-policy aide tells another ally that Obama wouldn't be relying on some withdrawal plan he has for the campaign trail!

I mean, in terms of crookery, Nixon, Rezko, Norman Hsu have nothing on this guy.

What is truly remarkable is the incapacity of those stupid "latte liberals" to get down from their Ivory Tower of wine and pastries and take some responsibility here. It is time, poets and star-gazers, to put aside sentimentalizing, and give us a hand as we throw this guy overboard. There is a policy on this ship, folks. No rats allowed. Put Hillary down, she's not the one and give us a hand over here.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 9:37 PM

No matter how far Obama shoves his foot in his mouth his groupies are always there to kiss it.

Posted by: Obama can't talk himself out of this one | April 14, 2008 9:37 PM

Our votes don't matter anyways!!...Whatever happened to that recount in Florida?!?

Posted by: john | April 14, 2008 9:37 PM

Once again, the general population gets snowed by the media.The campaigning has taken a huge down turn, no one spending the money they had been, and they need controversy to hype you up.So as misconstrued as the opinions expressed by both candidates is getting, so is the perception of what Democracy is about. No one said it had to be fair, be we should expect a higher degree of honesty from our politicians, and certainly from our media.
Clinton lost her grip along time ago, and most of the "big money" contributors saw her as a lame duck, and turned their financial allegiance to Obama, nothing more.From the looks of it, they might have made a mistake, at least as far as free trade agreements go .Hillary says she wouldnt pass or deal with a Columbia agreement, but the fact is , she has supported it since her real political career started, when Bill started campaigning for her.On merit alone she would be better served to take a step back, point out some obvious troubles for and against trade agreements like these, and then make her opinion be known.Bill was most impressive of modern politicians for backing up his own words, she would be smart to follow some advice like his previous campaigns had given the both of them.
Most unfortunate for both camps, Obama and Clinton, is the real winner in the fight for the Dem nomination is the republican party, who is getting to bash both candidates, mix all sorts of dirt into public opinion, without spending a dime, or saying a word.We have been hoodwinked, by our own party, and they better get their heads outta their derriers, the stink is spreading quite rapidly. We are not running against G> Bush, most Americans are running from him,but if we dont cool our own junk talk down, we will be handing the election to another war monger, just like Bush, with no foresight, and more American Bodies in the ground rather than on the ground

Posted by: Bill | April 14, 2008 9:36 PM

She's ran out of ideas. If you cannot beat your political opponet on ideas, how can you claim you have more experience? I think she's more experienced in her ability to lie with a stright face.

Posted by: Tony | April 14, 2008 9:35 PM

I grew up in rural PA. Obama is right. People are bitter. He may not have explained his point eloquently, but it was a correct statement.

Posted by: fromruralpa | April 14, 2008 9:35 PM

The Obama activists, that is, the extreme left wing of the party (MoveOn, Democracy for America, DailyKos, Keith Olbermann etc) are threatening to do to the Democratic Party what they did to us in the Connecticut Senate race. They got Ned Lamont to beat Lieberman in the primaries only to see the former get wiped out in the real race. Now, since I don't care much for Lieberman I tought that was rather cute. Big mistake. I had no idea how malicious these guys are. Their sunny fronts like Politico (this article notwithstanding) and MSNBC are trying to shut Hillary down. I say to all those who have been penalized for fighting tough battles. To all those who have paid their dues only to see a cute, ambitious upstart stroll in and steal the show. To all those who favor substance over style. To all those who have had to work so hard only to see the tall and young and good-looking get the credit. To all those who are sick of seeing hard earned experience get wiped out by "charisma". To all of you: MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO HILLARY RIGHT NOW.

https://contribute.hillaryclinton.com/form.html?sc=2390

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 9:35 PM

When Barack Obama decided to run for president, unlike Hillary Clinton and John McCain, he made the significant decision that he would not accept campaign contributions from lobbyists, special interests, and political action committees for his presidential campaign. It was Barack Obama's judgment that it would be preferable if the next President of the United States was elected without being beholden to money peddlers in Washington.

Suppose Barack Obama becomes the Democratic nominee for president at the Democratic National Convention in August, and suppose in the November general election the majority of Americans decide to vote for Barack Obama, the presidential candidate who among many other things has refused to accept campaign contributions from special interests, political action committees, and lobbyists but has financed his campaign solely from the contributions of people to whom he is accountable.

Furthermore, suppose this idea of raising money for political campaigns directly from the voters to whom the candidate is accountable sits so well with the American people that they come to expect that future presidential candidates as well as candidates for other offices such for the US Senate and House of Representatives will do as Barack Obama has done. What if candidates who continue to accept campaign contributions from special interests, political action committees, and lobbyists find it increasingly difficult to get elected? Would that help or hurt democracy in America?

That's the kind of change that Barack Obama represents which concerns so many in Washington who don't seem very eager for the American people to reclaim their democracy from the influence of special interests, political action committees, and lobbyists, the Washington money peddlers who currently arrange to provide huge amounts of financial support to political candidates whom they believe have a good chance of winning, and whom they can then "work with" later on.

Don't let anyone do your thinking for you. We are at a historic moment in America. Barack Obama is a very special candidate for president who can bring about significant changes in Washington and help ordinary Americans begin reclaiming their democracy.
Both the Governor of New Mexico, Bill Richardson, and Pennsylvania Senator Bob Casey Jr. know this and have recently endorsed Senator Barack Obama, recognizing Obama's integrity, intelligence, and the strong leadership he can provide as president.

It is time for voters in Pennsylvania and in all of the other states soon to vote in presidential primary elections to stand up and be counted. It's time for ordinary Americans to begin the process of reclaiming American democracy by voting for Barack Obama.

Posted by: Robert | April 14, 2008 9:35 PM

I've had enough! I will just stay home or vote Republican. Oh the pain of it all! Will it ever end? Lol.

Posted by: Joseph | April 14, 2008 9:34 PM

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Obama's new campaign slogan:

BITERNESS YOU CAN BELIEVE IN
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Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 9:33 PM

In all honesty, I didn't used to care whether it was Obama or Hillary who got the Democratic nomination. But frankly, the more I see of Hillary the less I like her, and the more I see of Obama the more I like him. In fact, I'm so furious with Hillary, I'm finding it difficult to want to vote for her. Obama on the other hand has lead an outstanding campaign, which is definitely no small task. It says an awful lot about his leadership. He has a wisdom beyond his years, and continues to rise above the fray even with all that's been thrown at him. He's been steadfast and calm, while refusing to stoop to the level of his opponents. He is inspirational and does offer hope, both of which are important if we want to take this country in a different direction. Some may think he made a mistake in his recent choice of words, but I don't. Once given a chance to ponder his remarks, I believe most Americans would agree they are in fact pretty darn bitter over the way this country has been run into the ground the last 7 plus years.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 9:33 PM

Obama wants us to choose between God and Him. Obamabots have made their choice clear.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 9:32 PM

what a pathetic ad!!!!!
cant get enough people to like you so you have to SPIN stuff to get votes?

Posted by: criss | April 14, 2008 9:32 PM

We don't need a Hussain....

Posted by: US of A | April 14, 2008 9:32 PM

Senator's Obama's remarks show his inexperience--in politics and national political exposure. A more seasoned candidate would never hold the sentiments expressed. His remarks do not nullify his potential, but simply show that he lacks the skills required for a campaign and service as president. His advisors deserve criticism for not early on persuading him to move towards the VP slot. He is probably finished for either President or Vice President.

Posted by: Ed Fairness | April 14, 2008 9:32 PM

I actually do not think this is a big hairy or prominent deal.


I am at the gas pump..yes. I am something close to bitter.
I am at the food market...pretty pissed.

Posted by: Clinton Supporter | April 14, 2008 9:31 PM

Up until now I was going to vote for whomever the Democratic nominee would be. But after seeing Clinton distort and balatantly misrepresent Obama's statements I can no longer in good conscience ever vote for her. I forgave the Bosnia gaffe, the Mark Penn conflict of interest and other Clinton shortfalls, but no more. This is such unethical behaviour, all in the name of advancing her political career. She disgusts me.

Posted by: wisefool | April 14, 2008 9:31 PM

God damn the small towns of USA. They just don't get him.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 9:31 PM

A half-awake-looking Shrillary gets boos for trashing up Obama.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24109989#24109989

Posted by: binkynh | April 14, 2008 9:29 PM

Sounds bad from here. Clinton has the energy of the looser, and do not hesitate to divide the Democrats to keep a slight chance to win.
This ad is the proof that Clinton does not have much material to beat her opponent.
America needs change and this last ad demonstrates that Clinton is not the one who will bring that.

Posted by: Laurent from Belgium | April 14, 2008 9:29 PM

[If this is a repeat, please let this one go to print, as I've added onto it at the end. Thanks!]

It is so very clear what Barack was intending to say and I understood it the first time I heard it played.

He has talked consistently about bringing our country together and eliminating the false divisions... this religion or that religion, gays or straights, and all of our other disagreements, including the right to bear arms, and all the nuances of that. Barack is very in touch with nuances, as he described in his AP speech today regarding Illinois... avid hunters in the southern portion; 27 handgun deaths in the northern. There is no one-size-fits-all solution.

However, when people feel powerless regarding the economy and the war and such, will they vote Yes or No with fervor on gun issues? You bet they will, as that's an area where they feel empowered... where their vote actually counts for something... otherwise, they'd likely stay home and not vote at all. The primaries are notorious for low voter turnout. Why do you think that is? The general election does better, but could do a WHOLE lot better... and will this year, with Barack Obama as the Democratic candidate.

I could go on with various examples, but hope it's not necessary, for people to get my point. Meanwhile, I've sat in many church services where people clinging to their faith only in the hard times has been the SUBJECT of SERMONS by the PASTORS. They've counseled their congregations on not just praying to God when things are going badly; but developing and maintaining a prayer life! Not just coming to church on Easter, but every Sunday. Not just coming to church on Sunday morning, but on Sunday night and Wednesdays, too. Sprinkled throughout these messages are the reminders of how people too often turn to God when things go wrong... and that their spiritual life needs to be ongoing, so they will have a strong basis of faith.

I'm not saying that this is EXACTLY what Barack meant, but I know that it's true that in forms such as "Dear Lord, please let me keep my job; please let my husband/wife keep his/her job, we and our children have so many needs; please keep us healthy, Lord, as You know we no longer have health insurance," people do cling to their faith when all around them is crumbling. Cling is a term that has been used from many a pulpit.

People do become angry and bitter when promise after promise falls through and they lose their jobs and their homes and their children can no longer go to college, as planned because there's simply no money to send them.

I don't live in Pennsylvania, but I do live in Florida, where our jobless rate is steadily increasing and more people are relying on substandard unemployment checks to survive. My job has me in contact with a number of these people and I see anger and bitterness and fear every day.

I was born and raised in Michigan, where the economy is horrible. When I have returned to visit, or talk with family and friends still there, I see and hear the same kind of thing.

Saying that Barack is out of touch because [as in the new Hillary ad] they don't cling to their faith, for them it is uplifting... is all but intentionally missing his point. Of COURSE it's uplifting... and that's the whole point. The economics certainly aren't. Some people have clung to their faith as opposed to following through on suicide, which is NOT an unheard-of response during economic downturns, much less ones that gut the area, after three decades.

If people will listen, truly listen, to what Barack has said... they will understand that he is very in touch with them and their fear and their pain. He's not glossing over it and saying, "I don't see where there's a problem here... I see people rolling up their sleeves." Well, I would suggest that these same people haven't JUST begun rolling up their sleeves. They've been doing that very thing for decades, just trying to make it, as their jobs have gone overseas and plants have closed. Did rolling up their sleeves resolve it, though? Have they considered that their sleeves are from Wal-Mart [another dime in the pocket of Hillary, by the way], and Hillary's are tailored?

If Pennsylvania goes to Obama, will the Pennsylvanians suddenly find that they "didn't really count" after all, the way that other states, that have turned out to be Hillary losses, have found themselves dismissed?

Barack is not condescending to you, nor is he dismissing you. He's listening and he's hearing your pain and he wants your permission to help you. He WILL make good on HIS promises.

Please listen to Barack Obama's OWN explanation of what he said and what he meant. Unlike the sniper fire scenario, this IS a true case of misspeaking and it's one that directly affects your lives. The stakes are too high to not listen to him. This man sees and understands the reality of economic disaster, understands its seriousness, and the divisive tactics the government and politicians will use to take and keep your eye off the ball of survival.

Kudos to the PA coal miner woman! YOU got Barack's message! Hillary is desperately trying to distract with semantics. His message remains the same, though, and it's heartening to see your clear understanding of it.

Posted by: Lizzytysh | April 14, 2008 9:28 PM

I wish I was out drinking with Hillary instead of blogging with a bunch of loser Obamabots.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 9:28 PM

If you are not voting for Obama then it is because you have been diseased by your social/cultural values.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 9:28 PM

Meanwhile, As Hillary bares her fangs, the daily Gallup tracking poll shows Senator Obama widening his national lead to 10% points over Hillary as voters react negatively to Hillary's mini fit.
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April 14, 2008
Gallup Daily: Obama Numbers Holding StrongMaintains, a 10-point lead over Clinton for Democratic nomination
USA Election 2008 Gallup Daily Americas Northern America PRINCETON, NJ --

Barack Obama, who has come under attack by his presidential rivals for describing small-town voters as "bitter," seems to be weathering the storm to this point as far as voters are concerned. He maintains a 10 percentage point lead over Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nomination, 50% to 40%, according to the latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking.

Posted by: New Era | April 14, 2008 9:28 PM

This isn't news, it's olds. Escape this matrix. Take the red pill and get on with your lives, folks.

Posted by: treetopflyer | April 14, 2008 9:28 PM

Hey when the last time any of you Obamabots had a date?

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 9:27 PM

This just in:
Obama is putting together the backdrop for his November aspirations. 5 yellow people, 2 brown people, 6 white people, 3 gray people, 10 green people and 50 million dumb people required.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 9:26 PM

Hillary has to be tough. Obamaniacs are mad because their guy was not coronated without a decent competition. If he is the best we shall see; until then it ain't over until the fat (...I have to be politically correct here) sings. Go Hillary give them hell.

Posted by: Why are Obamaniacs mad? | April 14, 2008 9:24 PM

Posted by: Why are Obamaniacs mad? | April 14, 2008 9:26 PM

What a bunch of wimps.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 9:25 PM

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Obama's new campaign slogan:

BITERNESS YOU CAN BELIEVE IN
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Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 9:25 PM

Anyone consider the possibility that Obama's assessment is simply...true?

Posted by: Ben | April 14, 2008 9:25 PM

I cling to religion and God so I guess I must be struggling loser.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 9:24 PM

Hillary Clinton is an arrogant four letter word, who hasn't been happy since that house fell on her sister at the beginning of the Wizard of Oz.

Posted by: jeffp | April 14, 2008 9:23 PM

How does a person that makes 109 million USd in eight years claim that she is in touch with working people.

My dad slaved in a factory so I could go to college and graduate school. He would roll in his grave for that one!

Posted by: BigPig | April 14, 2008 9:23 PM

This is a nice posting:

Hillary has all the right in the world to question Obama. When Obama spewed his condescending remarks to all those millionaires in San Francisco he directly accused the Clinton administration for "small town folks" clinging to religion and guns. If he accuses the Clinton years as the reason for their bitterness then why shouldn't Hillary strike back? WHY? She kept quiet when the Wright controversy erupted. She made only one comment. "Wright would not be my pastor." That was it. But this "bitter/clinging" issue is pure politics, it's about policy, honesty. Its goes straight to the reason why democrats have lost the last two elections. It is fair to argue Obama's condescension to the small town folk because it goes directly to issues like religion, xenophobia, gun ownership and culture.

Posted by: Floridian Lady | April 14, 2008 8:26 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 9:22 PM

The Obama campaign has got all that money but what they really need is some testosterone.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 9:21 PM

A candidate for high public office listens to his people in order to understand their problems and gauge the emotional intensity with which they regard these problems. He candidly shares, then applies his findings, organizing the consent of the governed and inspiring fellow citizens in common effort.

Some may call this condescension by an elitist.

I call it leadership.

Posted by: FirstMouse | April 14, 2008 9:21 PM

Hey can't you guys take a little hardball politicking?

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 9:19 PM

Someone really needs to tell Hillary she's looking more and more like an ugly Republican. In fact, looks like she's being tutored by the master, Karl Rove. One of the big reasons I stopped voting for Republicans is because I utterly despise their slimy, under-handed, dishonest tactics. Maybe Hillary is hoping for a spot on the McCain ticket or on his cabinet.

Posted by: spicegal | April 14, 2008 9:18 PM

I'm a life-long democrat. I won't vote for Hillary Clinton after that ad. Obama said something pretty stupid and frankly offensive. If Republicans want to attack him for that that's fine, but I won't vote for someone who plays the working class hero card but is worth 109 million dollars thanks to the hard work her husband did speaking to wealthy organizations. The hypocrisy is downright shocking, especially given that she knows perfectly well that the sound-bite doesn't reflect Obama's sentiments on the issue.

Posted by: Justin | April 14, 2008 9:18 PM

Hey Obamabots. I heard Hillary is getting fitted for a pair of brass knuckles. What do you think about that?

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 9:16 PM

In less than 300 days, it will be Mr. President Elect, Barack Obama.

Deal with it!

Posted by: bob North Smithfield | April 14, 2008 9:16 PM

Folks, those are paid actors.

You think people really believe "Hillary Clinton has been fighting for people like us her whole life"? And using the talking point "out of touch"?

lol lol lol

Posted by: lol. let's not forget... | April 14, 2008 9:15 PM

A half-awake-looking Shrillary gets boos for trashing up Obama.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24109989#24109989

Posted by: binkynh | April 14, 2008 9:14 PM

I'm bitter because I don't have $109M.

Posted by: Karl Shipps | April 14, 2008 9:14 PM

As a PA woman coal miner, I agree 1000% with Brack Obama. Everyone in my shift at work does, too.

Hillary Clinton is doing the same old dirty politics which is why we can't stand her and Bill Clinton and did not vote for her last time.

Obama may be half black, but he is not a muslim like some idiot said. He is Right, we are bitter and I don't know if it ill do any good, but we will vote for him.

We already had Clinton talking that game and closing factories for 8 years. She is lying. Plain and simple.

I did not think we have a choice but a lot of folks here like Obama, so we are going with him.

like it or not.

Posted by: YeahRight! | April 14, 2008 9:13 PM

We are doomed because 30 seconds of information is about all anyone can stand.

Posted by: doomed | April 14, 2008 9:13 PM

Backing Obama is like buying a product you're going to consume without reading the ingredients.

This was posted today on the Chicago Tribune.


Posted April 14, 2008 4:15 PM

by Bob Secter

Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama's name came up again at the Antoin "Tony" Rezko corruption trial today in Chicago and in a way that earlier filings in the case did not telegraph.


Stuart Levine, the prosecution's star witness, said he and Obama were at a party Rezko threw at his Wilmette mansion on April 3, 2004, for Nadhmi Auchi, a controversial Iraqi-born billionaire who Rezko was trying to get to invest in a South Loop real-estate development.

Auchi, now a citizen of the United Kingdom, has faced criminal charges in Europe. He also figured in the revocation of Rezko's bond early this year after attempting to wire him more than $3 million. Upon learning of that attempt, U.S. District Judge Amy St. Eve declared Rezko a flight risk and ordered him held in a federal jail in the Loop.

The Rezko party in 2004 was designed to induce Auchi to pour money into the South Loop investment. Obama's presence at the party was not previously known. At the time, Obama was fresh off a surprise win in the Illinois Democratic primary for U.S. Senate and was riding a crest of national publicity.

Posted by: ChicagoABC | April 14, 2008 9:12 PM

Now billarians can talk on the slip of obama's mouth 'cause without having his mistakes, you have nothing to say.

Posted by: hope | April 14, 2008 9:12 PM

Senator Big Shot! That's a good one. I also hear she's quite a duck hunter. Just what this country needs. She has lost already. I wish she would go away. Hopefully Pennsylvania voters are smart enough to know we have bigger fish to fry in this country than these petty word games Hillary wants to play.

Posted by: Sara B. | April 14, 2008 9:12 PM

I loved Bill because he always took the optimistic view, and learned the Biblical lesson of love your enemies. I am starting to dislike Hillary because she is turning into a version of the hateful rightwing attack machine.

Posted by: Nick | April 14, 2008 9:10 PM

All these manufactured outrages that really don't amount to a hill of beans in the grand scheme of things are getting extremely tiresome. Are people really so gullible that they don't see through Hillary Clinton's antics, her politicking. Senator Obama spoke the truth. Many Americans are bitter, and why wouldn't they be. Guess people just can't handle the truth. This whole story is much ado about nothing. It that really the best HC can do, act like a Republican. If she can't win, her plan is to take Senator Obama down with her. Why doesn't she campaign for McCain? She practically is anyway.

Posted by: spicegal | April 14, 2008 9:09 PM

Attention Clintonistas and PA voters. Anybody who wants to go drinking with Hillary raise your hand. I will be the first.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 9:08 PM

Hillary is a Sell Out... She should join the Republican Party.

Hillary/McCain 08

WarMongers, Unite!

Free Trade Beneficiaries, Unite!

Back Stabbers, Unite!

Losers, Unite!


McHillary 08!

McHillary 08!

McHillary 08!

McHillary 08!

McHillary 08!

McHillary 08!

McHillary 08!

Posted by: HillarySellOut | April 14, 2008 9:07 PM

So the ankleless millionaire ofay chick is calling the black boy an elitist ... may she be condemned to suffer the sermons of Rev. Wrong and the wisdom of Eli Pariser!

Posted by: sawargos | April 14, 2008 9:07 PM

Mud slinging is a good way to turn off the electorate.

The billarys are past masters at it. If you want the same old dirty politics as usual, more prevaricating, manipulating, underhanded slime, then you want hilary.

Posted by: redtuttle | April 14, 2008 9:06 PM

Frankly I do not wish to write such statement but I have to. As a black and coming from a muslim background, Barrack Hussein Obama are just the same as he is a liar and elitist who tend to look down on the poor and unfortunate. If he should ever become President, the US would be dragged into the abyss you will regret like hell.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 9:05 PM

At least Mr. Obama does not resort to lies to justify what he says. On the other hand, Ms. Clinton has lied several times to spin her deceit into something it isn't. For example, her Bosnia trip. She descredits the military, herself, and most of all shows no respect for the American people's ability to know a bold face lie when they hear it. That is the reason I decided not to vote for her. Chronic liars have no place in the White House.

Posted by: Len Kay | April 14, 2008 9:05 PM

Senator Clinton downs a shot; big deal. So we'll call her Senator Big Shot. No one is fooled by her pandering either by her drinking prowess or her religious affection. Hillary simply lies and panders.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 9:04 PM

Barack has far more consideration for the Dem. Party than either I, or Clinton.

My ads would've went something like this.. "Right out of the Ivy League, I could've cashed in. Instead I started Community Organization to try and remedy the ills of everyday working Americans. My Democratic opponent, on the other hand, CHOSE to, as first lady of AK, sit on the board of WalMart, the biggest union-busting, slave-labor profiteer this side of the Civil War. As First lady of the US, she held closed door negotiations that set health care back for a generation, resulting in twice as many Americans left without health care than there was when her husband was elected. The first thing Bill did when he was sworn in was to pass Repug GHW Bush's Nafta, swearing into Law the right for US manufacturers, to move your jobs overseas. If you support these policies, support Sen. Clinton. Rest assured there's more of the same to come.

Posted by: k6007 | April 14, 2008 9:04 PM

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OBAMA'S RESPONSE:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc9PepjyDow

(OVER 1/2 MILLION VIEWS)

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Posted by: . | April 14, 2008 9:03 PM

Shrillary wouldn't know a high road if one flew into her opportunistic mouth.

She also doesn't know when to quit.

Obama's set things right and now only needs to wait a day or two for Hillary to suffer the most from this silly "bitter-gate" nonsense.

Posted by: binkynh | April 14, 2008 9:01 PM

Why hasn't the media taken on this important issue?

Clintons facing fraud charges, and media not covering it. Hearing is this month.

Case Number: BC304174
PETER F PAUL VS WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON
Hillary facing fraud charges
Filing Date: 10/14/2003
Case Type: Fraud (no contract) (General Jurisdiction)
Status: Pending

Future Hearings
04/25/2008 at 08:31 am in department 47 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012

http://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/civilCaseSummary/index.asp?CaseType=Civil

Peter Paul is more than a former friend, he's Hillary's largest fund raiser. He knows a thing or two about where Hillary's fund raising money came from.

Posted by: I | April 14, 2008 9:01 PM

The LA Times poll shows that 62.5% of those responding are indeed bitter and were thrilled some politician noticed.
Hillary, of course, didn't notice a damn thing except how she could cap on killing the messenger. That's going to solve ZERO, especially coming from NAFTA-Lady.
I'm not backing anyone, but I do have a preference for more "inconvenient truth". If the public can't deal with that, they will have to deal with another 4+ years of the consequences of BS.

Posted by: Mike King | April 14, 2008 9:00 PM

We, at the Detroit Mosque, will all vote for that Muslim man, Obama.
He will ensure that our people will win in Iraq. Praise Allah!!!

Posted by: Muhammed Maharesh | April 14, 2008 9:00 PM

"The election process sad? I love it. What's the alternative, Coups for regime change, war?"
People who fall for crap like "Obamamania" don't want democracy (neither does Obama). They want "one person, one vote, one time" Afterwards the elections are "suspended" until the politics are "fixed". Any anyone who protests gets a free life-time membership at a re-education camp.

Posted by: DN | April 14, 2008 8:59 PM

Hey Marian W, why don't you practice being a bigot and a racist in another forum, maybe the one that the KKK runs.

It sure hurts to hear the truth doesn't it? The poor are bitter? Is that new or old?

Posted by: Jordan Davies | April 14, 2008 8:58 PM

barak blasts the clinton administration in his speech, and says they are the reason americans are poor. and he really thought he wouldn't be attacked by the clintons?
obama is a newb.

Posted by: hmmm | April 14, 2008 8:56 PM

My God, JakeD, do you have a life???

What, do you just sit and wait for each story and blog all day long? Are you independantly wealthy and don't need to work like the rest of us? Are you really a team of people all posting as "JakeD"?

How do you do it, and who are you?

Posted by: John from CA | April 14, 2008 8:56 PM

Barack Obama has jumped the shark!!

Hey Barack fans, you've been Rick Rolled...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU

Posted by: phil6 | April 14, 2008 8:55 PM

please. his point was:

the minutia is keeping our country from real change.

if you are unable to understand that much, you must have an IV of subsidized news feeding your brain.

Posted by: gp | April 14, 2008 8:54 PM

Obama - Black is Wright

Obama attracts thugs and bullies to his campaign and personal life and does so with impunity.
If Obama where Caucasian, he would have been bulldozed by the media long ago.

Look at Obama's affiliations:

- Senator Meeks who openly hates whites and gays and is listed prominently on Obama's campaign website as a major Obama supporter and backer and is one of Obama;s super-delegate. Mr. Meeks has been integral in Obama success in politics.

- Mr. Ayers of the Weather Underground, a group that killed police and tried to bomb the US Capitol, served with Obama on the board of the leftist foundation called the Woods Fund.

- Robert Malley a close senior adviser to Obama who advocates negotiations with Hamas and providing international assistance to the terrorist group.

- Larry Sinclair alleges in 1999 Senator Obama's arranged to meet him in a limousine, sold Senator Obama cocaine and then gave Senator Obama oral sex. Larry then claims that he and Obama went to a hotel and preformed oral sex again. Mr. Sinclair is testifying in court under oath that these allegations are true.

- Mr. Auchi is an Iraqi billionaire and major financial sponsor and closely connected to Obama's rise to power.
While working with Saddam Hussein, Auchi made his fortune through the selling of arms in Iraq and the funneling off of money from the Oil for Food program.

- Mr. Rezko an Iraqi citizen and Obama's and Auchi's long time friend of 17 years and a major mob figure. Rezko is NOT known for his civic sense of duty and does not do favors without asking something in return. Coincidently the Chicago Times reported yesterday that Rezko was negotiating to purchase rehab buildings in Obama's district.

- Mr. Wright a racist who hates America and whites (and Italians?). Mr. Wright has been Mr. Obama's spiritual mentor for over 20 years. Before the media exposed Mr. Wright, he was Obama's chief religious advisor on Obama's campaign staff. Mr. Wright and Mr. Meeks are ideologically closer to Karl Marx and Black Nationalism, than to Christianity.

- Rashid Khalidi a fundraiser for Obama and is one of Obama's close friends. Khalidis claim Israel as a "catastrophe", and supports Palestinian terrorist groups.

- Mr. McPeaks is Obama's military adviser and national campaign co-chairman who publicly states that American Jews are the "problem." and "Christian Zionists were driving America's policy in Iraq to benefit Israel."

- Abongo "Roy" Obama is the older half brother to Senator Obama. Roy Obama is a militant Muslim activist in Kenya who according to a report from the Investor's Business Daily has repeatedly urged his brother Senator Obama to embrace African heritage and supports implementation of Sharia law.

- Michelle Obama trumpets Obama as "the second coming of the messiah," and also states that she "has NEVER been proud to be an American in her adult life".

The list goes on...

How can Obama's bad judgment to choose to affiliate with criminals and fanatics be justified? And with so many red flags in Obama's past, present rhetoric, and future intentions how could we possibly justify electing him into the most powerful position of this country?

Are we so in love with the color black that we forget to see the man?

Posted by: Marian Williams | April 14, 2008 8:53 PM

I just saw the picture of Hillary taking a shot of whiskey some place in Pa. She looked like she really enjoyed it. Just what we need to get America out of this mess, another drunk in the White House!

Posted by: Jim | April 14, 2008 8:53 PM

Obama said those people are antipathy. Seems to me he's the one who is really antipathy and completely lack of compassion. People are duped by some wealthy liberals in the america who love to destroy Clinton whatever way they could by propping up Obama. You don't have to agree with people with faith and believe in 2nd amendment of constitution, but to show such contempt says loudly about the true color of this Obama character as well as his unqualification as a statesman. Imagine what outcry the media will be bursting with if either McCain or Hillary disparage African Americans with similar contemptuous remarks. They will be crucifixed by the media immediately. Here Obama and his supporters not only shown no sign of remorse, they even belittle the insensitivity and continues their offensive smear against Hillary. What arrogance projecting himself champion of hope and change and comparing himself as Kennedy and MLK. He's nothing but another cunning politician, American are misled.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 8:52 PM

Guess what Clintonistas? Hillary Clinton went to Wellesley and was the College Republican President (the only time she'll ever hold this office). Hillary worked for the segregationist Senator Barry Goldwater of Arizona. Hillary's daddy was a dyed-in-the-wool Republican. Do you think that Hillary is a real Democrat, or an elitist GOPer with Democratic in name only/ For me, this Democrat is voting for a real Democrat: OBAMA in PA!

Posted by: Pa4OBAMA | April 14, 2008 8:51 PM

I'm fed up with this whole thing. I was so excited about these elections. Now I'm just fed up. My vote goes to my cat "Puffy".

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 8:51 PM

It's funny...when Hillary condescended the people of Mississippi, the governor, with the approval of Obama, aired an ad bombasting her...and that was acceptable.

When Obama patronizes the people of Pennsylvania and Hillary's campaign calls him out on it - it's not acceptable? It's hitting below the belt?

Give me a break. Saint Obama can do no harm.

Posted by: Emmeline | April 14, 2008 8:51 PM

It's coming ... I can almost hear it .... Barack is going to deliver an earnest, healing speech on the divide between educated, moneyed elites and the middle-american folks.

Perhaps now, and only now, can we begin a national dialog on this hurtful gulf that has gone undiscussed.

The pundits will be weeping at their typewriters, for the Messiah has again spoken and made everything OK.

Posted by: HuckFinn | April 14, 2008 8:46 PM

It's coming ... I can almost hear it .... Barack is going to deliver an earnest, healing speech on the divide between highly educated, moneyed elites and the middle-american folks.

Perhaps now, and only now, can we begin a national dialog on this hurtful gulf that has gone undiscussed.

The pundits will be weeping at their typewriters, for the Messiah has again spoken and made everything OK.

Posted by: HuckFinn | April 14, 2008 8:46 PM

It's coming ... I can almost hear it .... Barack is going to deliver an earnest, healing speech on the divide between educated, moneyed elites and the middle-american folks.

Perhaps now, and only now, can we begin a national dialog on this hurtful gulf that has gone undiscussed.

The pundits will be weeping at their typewriters, for the Messiah has again spoken and made everything will be OK.

Posted by: HuckFinn | April 14, 2008 8:46 PM

How do you know they were Obama supporters? Couldn't they have been American citizens who are bitter and frustrated at the governments lack of response to our many problems? People who agree with Obama?

Posted by: Sueb2 | April 14, 2008 8:39 PM

Obama or S.O.B.ama is finished. How dare his minions go to a Hillary rally and boo her. This is not done unless you are from some third world countries. I am a democrat and I am ashamed of this SOBama's behaviour. He can never be the President. He should go back to downtown Chicago and become a gang leader of his minions. Uncle Ted Kennedy is so ashamed of his clientthat he has gone fishing at Cape Cod...

Posted by: vs | April 14, 2008 8:33 PM

Anyone who mis-speaks as often as Hillary does should be more charitable to someone else who mis-speaks once in a while, as we all do. Hillary, for once, put the country ahead of yourself. Stop the scorched earth policy!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Sueb2 | April 14, 2008 8:33 PM

I think it's very cruel of Hillary to continue give false hopes to her supporters. She's pouncing on this as if it'll save her moribund campaign. Just like all of her other attacks, it'll cause a ripple on the pond's surface but be soon forgotten.

Posted by: Objective bystander #415-B | April 14, 2008 8:30 PM

Amazing how Clinton lies repeatedly to America on purpose because she thinks she can get away with it. Then she says that she "misspoke" "once" because it was "late at night" and she was "tired."

In fact, she DELIBERATELY LIED MANY TIMES IN BROAD DAYLIGHT.

Then, Obama says something ONCE, OFF SCRIPT, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, and it's a damning insight into his secretly elitist views instead of an out-of-character, cryptic rant.

Posted by: Bitter Dissent | April 14, 2008 8:30 PM

Wow... she likes to hit beneath the belt.

I think people will notice the difference in campaign styles. When Hillary made up her "sniper fire" story, did Obama do a TV add to shred her? No... he didn't need to, and he won't need to.

All Hillary is doing is ruining her reputation for after this election. When Obama is President, she is sidelined into extinction.

Just go away Hillary. We are tired of it.

Posted by: Boutan | April 14, 2008 8:27 PM

Whatever Obama's foibles may be, people still prefer him to Hillary. All these manufactured scandals and outrages are mere distractions.

Posted by: yawn | April 14, 2008 8:27 PM

Hillary has all the right in the world to question Obama. When Obama spewed his condescending remarks to all those millionaires in San Francisco he directly accused the Clinton administration for "small town folks" clinging to religion and guns. If he accuses the Clinton years as the reason for their bitterness then why shouldn't Hillary strike back? WHY? She kept quiet when the Wright controversy erupted. She made only one comment. "Wright would not be my pastor." That was it. But this "bitter/clinging" issue is pure politics, it's about policy, honesty. Its goes straight to the reason why democrats have lost the last two elections. It is fair to argue Obama's condescension to the small town folk because it goes directly to issues like religion, xenophobia, gun ownership and culture.

Posted by: Floridian Lady | April 14, 2008 8:26 PM

I love the ads. HUSSEIN Obama is nothing but a bigot.

Shame, shame on Obama!

Posted by: Ex-Obama supporter | April 14, 2008 8:25 PM

The election process sad? I love it. What's the alternative, Coups for regime change, war?

Posted by: hillarybill | April 14, 2008 8:24 PM

This could be a John McCain commercial. I guess Hillary's new campaign motto is "Go, McCain!" Ed Rendell just said that he thinks this whole controversy might cost Obama one or two points at the polls but he doesn't think it will be a real problem for him. He still thinks Obama will take Pennsylvania in the general (hear that superdelegates-despite what the Clinton's are telling you, Hillary's chief butt-kisser says this won't matter in the general!)

Posted by: Sueb2 | April 14, 2008 8:21 PM

When Obama delivered pizza for extra cash while in college, he delivered mine cold. That's why I'm voting for Hillary!

Posted by: Bitter | April 14, 2008 7:48 PM

Typical "Snob-ama", makes a mistake and then blames someone else (Hillary and/or McCain). Then, even worse, goes on the attack of the other Democrat in the race for calling him on his own elitism. Let me see, it was just last night that he condemned Hillary for attacking him, wasn't it? What a two-faced hypocrite and used her words too, "shame on you". Also folks, let us not forget folks where Obama's money is coming from, in his battle for President. His money trail now reveals that he received nearly half of all the millions collected thus far, from big donors. That would be nearly $115,000,000.00 million dollars of the more than $230 million dollars thus far. Not to mention the fact that Obama reported that his money came from all small donor supporters. Instead, it seems, the money is funneling in from filthy rich big name/big money raisers and thousands of top dollar contributors at $2300.00 dollars each/maximum allowed by law, contributor. I knew he didn't have a larger, or even as large of a grassroots organization, as Hillary. His bid for the Whitehouse is being bought and paid for just like Bush by the elitist. I thought Obama was supposed to be different? Of course, there are also the fundraisers on the web that represent the far left, (Huffington Post, Move-On, etc.) who are also collecting for him from their membership (2 Million plus members) for Obama. I used to support Move-On on some of their causes until they endorsed Obama. I know they are raising money for him because they continue to send me e-mails for donations for Obama. Wake-up America, you are being hoodwinked and now being called names as he looks down his nose at "US", by this arrogant and elitist jerk trying to buy his way into the Whitehouse! It is not too late to stop him if the rest of "US" left to vote do so for Hillary. Hillary cares about "US and will restore our greatness at home and abroad. Go PA, bring her on to the rest of "US" by a landslide.

Posted by: Mary O'Bryan | April 14, 2008 7:48 PM

It's all so sad. Politics. The Clintons. The Media. People like us who check these stupid blogs and comment. So sad.

Posted by: JM | April 14, 2008 7:44 PM

Obama stepped on my foot at a campaign stop and equivocated instead of saying sorry. Quick let's do a commercial!

Posted by: DG | April 14, 2008 7:41 PM

You Go, Girl!!!

Posted by: JakeD | April 14, 2008 7:35 PM

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