The Trail: A Daily Diary of Campaign 2008

Due to Senator Obama's blind pursuit of the nomination, he will set race relations in this country back 50 years. Did he really think that he and his surrogates would get away with calling white voters racist if they didn't vote for him... Well, know all polls show that in the long run, they won't. Only African Americans are voting for him and yet they are not labeled racists. Also, he states he's the candidate above the fray, however, he has shown he is everything but and will resort to vicious attacks and negative campaigning. Unfortunately for him, he has yet to see what the RNC will level against him.... That's why it's imperative that he not get the nomination... It will destroy him....

In short, the Dems are doomed. There is a good reason why the last 10 Presidential terms read like this :

Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Clintion, Bush, Bush.
7 out of the last 10 have been Republicans. The natural Party of Presidents.

The question being asked is " why can't Obama win white working class votes" - when he is winning atleast 35% of that vote on average - in addition to the majority of the college educated, young, white demographic.
The REAL QUESTION which needs to be asked is " Why are the Clintons so hated by the Black community now. They are getting no more than 10% of that demographic. How can ANy Democrat win the Presidencty without the Blacks voting as a bloc for the Democrat"?

Obama has shown that he is beholden to the cultural left and African America wing of the Democratic Party. He will not disavow even the most egregious statements of his past associations - instead his couches his continued support for Rev. Wright and Prof. Ayres in flowery half-truths. Obama's speech on Race fell flat with me. In his speech on race, he called America racist and tried to cover up the fact that he choose to sit in Rev. Wright's pews and listen to him rant. Clinton, with all her faults, will not allow the left to control the agenda of her Presidency. That's why I voted for her husband; and that's why I will support McCain if Obama is the Democratic nominee.

I am glad the Post pursued that angle of no-Clinton White House stuff with Obama's campaign manager.

I look forward to seeing Obama stick to that commitment.

Jacksmith,
So you want to give the nomination to Hillary Clinton??? What koolaid convinces you and others that Hillary can possibly be elected in November? First, you can not win without the black vote and all the young newly registered new voters that you will disenfranchise... and Bill Clinton has taken care of alienating the blacks. Second, why do you think the Republicans are licking their paws to defeat Obama? They know it is a double win for them? Why can't you non-thinkers see Karl Rove directing McCain to follow Bill to the rural areas picking up the black voters that Bill are alienating from the Demoratic party? Do you believe for one moment that the American people will allow an IMPEACHED President to be re-elected for a third term, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE, whether it's under the guise of Hillary running or whatever. Do you think that Monica and Jennifer are going to ever go away? Will the White House be the "W" House again? The pardons will be swiftboated across the screen...it hasn't even began but she and Bill will be toast in no time flat. She is totally unelectable and it will never ever happen!!! This is a set up but yet we will be divided by the easiest tool in the book. RACE!

David - Your assessment of Merrill Lynch couldn't be futher from the truth. The company has over $80 billion in capital reserves. Not quite the same as Bear Stearns. I just thought I would set the record straight. I work for Merrill Lynch!

Yaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnn............of course the little boy will use the vetted republican tatics of the 90's. Someone told him it was current issue and little boy said "ok".

I guess since tax payers funded the Clinton attack, we should certainly get a re-run for our dollar! That way little boy doesn't have to spend his dollar...he over spent his allowance and needs all the help he can get...TAX PAYERS UNITE TO HELP LITTLE BOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

The fact is that Hillary can't close the deal. Obama should have been gone after Super Tuesday according to the Clinton machine which believed Hillary had some type of right to the nomination. How can she beat McCain when she can't even beat Obama.
If she can lose 11 states in a row to a freshman senator she is not the victor she claims.
No politician has ever been elected to high office with such negatives. I have come to believe neither will beat McCain.

hey, 10% is not a "crushing defeat"....

Hillary's desperate debate debacle underscores her family's need to dominate by any means.

Why should we be subjected once again to her hysterical, anger driven name calling?

It's over Hillary. Breathe deeply, open your heart and joint the team.

Here is Jacksmith again, posting his nonsense. Who are you to say Obama can't be elected? He's winning in nearly every area that matters. The only way he can't be elected is if the racist element (who keep saying he's unelectable) really succeed in dividing the country. I think it is a small minority and I am hopeful we have moved beyond judging people based on the color of their skin.

This country needs to unite and Obama is the only candidate that even stands a chance at accomplishing this goal.

I wish someone would remind the voters of the White House scandals; Whitewater, Rose Law Firm, Billy Dale, Vincent Foster, disbarred, impeached, womanizing liar. FEC fraud. Pardons for family and friends.

I wish the press would report on the current FEC related fraud lawsuit. If it could be proven, Hillary could be facing a 5 year jail sentence. She has her bases covered for the moment with Slapp law, but when she testifies in court on behalf of Bill, her past perjurer could come up.

But, hey, it is the Clintons, so not news worth publishing eh. Did he show up in court today as scheduled? Press is not covering it, so how can I find out?

Posted by: Tom | April 23, 2008 1:27 PM: I have seen photo's of Senator Obama's mother. The very first time I was introduced to him at You Choose '08 (You Tube). It was the best Intro video I saw from any candidate; Biden (I think) talked about Iowa and how whoever wins Iowa will be next president and he was confident he would win Iowa. Told me a lot about the man.

Gravel's "The Rock": stares into a lake...next.

Edwards: "Hair" some pictures of hair, followed by, I guess, war footage, followed by, Vote for me. Well, gee, John, who are you.

Did not look at Hillary's. Already knew she lost my vote with her response to Iraqi ladies on the war. she now admits, oops, "we acted on faulty intelligence" oops...

Your information about Senator Obama is incorrect. His mother and father got divorced. That is not "deserting" him. His father was agnostic, as was his mother. I doubt that his Indonesian step-father practiced Muslim. If he did he would not be likely to marry a woman that did not share a belief in God.

The USA government made a mess out of citizen's minds. Might as well be in Nazi Germany, so people like you, Tom, could march anyone you do not like into your gas chambers. Your type disgust me.

i use to respect the clintons

and its so unfortunate that they have proven themselves so politically venal under pressure, its really unfortunate

obama, for all his flaws, has tried to keep this race on a higherplane

something other than the politics of personal destruction that have so crippled america both domestically and in the world

hillary continues to try to drag it into the dirt as her only chance of winning

but what would she be winning if she wins by dragging the party into the dirt, by stirring its racial polarizations and resentments

what is she doing to the party, what is she doing to america

when she was the anointed leader she fought fair - but when times got hard she got win at any cost dirty and tries to spin it as somehow commendable

the clintons have dusted off all the politics of personal destruction the republicans used on them and turned them on their own

my daddy use to tell me never wrestle with pigs, you only get dirty and the pig enjoys it

but in this case obama doesnt seem to have much of a choice - the clintons efforts show that in american politics, down and dirty still has agency

can the presidency be worth the damage she has done to her lifes work in politics

everything positive that shes stood for has been trashed by her own actions, not her enemies - its like she has joined them against us

obliterate iran? she sound like mcbush lite

we see where swaggering tough guy talk/behavior has gotten us

do we really need another swaggering something to prove cowgirl in the whitehouse

somebody who wins by tearing us apart,

have we not endured this political nightmare long enough - 8 years of resentment politics is enough

its just so unfortunate

i hope when its over that obama and democratic party and all the folk who depend on it can forgive her (and bill, work with her (and bill)

at this point I don't know that I can

cliton machine needs to retire

I agree...What a mess. I too am an Obama supporter and he is going to bring this courty together-only he can (white 41 year old women from pa)

there is no way obama can win in november. Ohio is for hillary the word around here is every one going republican and you all know it takes ohio for the white house. Obama is a fruit cake we all here know it. wake up the rest of the states yet to vote. hillary has her problems but she the best one for the job. Women it time for you to speak up unless you want to keep working for less wage than men. democrat is going to lose a lot of people in november if obama get the nominee. So wake up democrates.

Clinton Alert!

Paul vs Clinton (fraud case) to debut in October, just before the General Election. Superdelegates sending a repeat offender (although not convicted) to the White House!Must be some kind of gag order on main stream media to keep this quiet.

Hillary is a liar.

Dear Jacksmith,

I hate to burst your little bubble, but "The Clintons" did not win the White House twice... Bill Clinton won in 1992 and 1996 ( each time by less than 50%, hardly a land slide)...

Hillary Clinton's extensive baggage seems to grow daily, and more than 60% of the country think she is dishonest and not to be trusted...

DO YOU REALLY WANT BILL CLINTON RUNNING AROUND THE WHITE HOUSE AGAIN CHASING YOUR DAUGHTER?

And now, Bill Clinton has completed gotten rid of the Black Commiunity with his continued lies and disrespect...

One last bit of reality; Senator Obama leads in popular votes, pleadged delegates, and number of states won.

If that no longer stands for something, then we need to re-write our democracy...

Not a Obama fan, but keeping it real.

The loss was 9.4 percent, not 10 percent for those of you who want to s--t--r--e--t--c--h Billary's kool-aid.

Another unfuzzy math lesson here - Rounding rules dictate that fractions less than .5 round downward to the floor, while fractions greater .5 round upward to the ceiling.

So, make that 9 percent in round numbers, which means that Billary won the PA election in single digits.

From the No Spin Zone.....

Good for Obama not to bring up all of those nasty things that went on in the White House and Arkansas. But McCain and the Republican Party will not be as nice. Remember, Clinton was going to be impeached. How can we forget that American people? Why are you allowing the media to set us up again? Do your homework and research. Hillary cannot win against McCain. Now the Republicans are also using the race card. Democrats, pull yourselves together. America is supposed to be one nation. Don't allow the Karma of America's forefathers come back and bite us. America is not going to be the strongest nation if we do not begin to globalize peacefully. The Clintons (Hillary and Bill) have no intention of having peaceful negotiations between the age old problems between Christians and Muslims -- plus women have no leading role in the Muslim countries -- will they really want to talk to Hillary?

America -- don't be fooled, Hillary cannot win and if we are stupid, Bush politics continue.

All respect and admiration I used to have for the Clintons has been killed by her egotistical, destructive, self serving insistence on staying in the race.

Better people than her had the grace to bow out. Yes, she has a right to stay in, but that isn't the point. I might have a right to demand the right of way when I am driving, but if I cause a trainwreck then that wasn't a good choice, was it? It isn't all about her or her right.

This is 2008, and the longer she stays in the race the more she hurts the Democratic party, and the more she resembles a Fox News/Carl Rove wannabe. She is dishonest, uses gutter tactics, would stoop to absolutely anything, and I mean anything to win. She claims she will unify the party after she gets the nomination, but is so clueless and destructive she does not realize that by then it will be beyond repair.

Obama is everything she is not. He is wise, intelligent, skilled, principled, capable, and trustworthy. I didn't "get it" at first. I am in my 50's, a woman, and Hispanic. At first I too was fooled by Hillary, but not for long.

She is not the better choice. She is not good for the party. She is not good for the country. She is a spoiler, and the sooner she is gone the better. The right wing Republicans have been cheering her on like mad. There must be a reason. They know Obama will win, and she never will.

Obama has around 1.3 million individual campaign contributors and growing. His campaign has more money because "The People" want him, not her. She can sling mud, lie, twist the truth, create her own reality, put on her phony acts, make personal attacks, and continue acting desperate and destructive, and she still won't win. All she is doing is hurting the party and hurting the country.

You fell off the Whitewatergate, travelgates,vince fostergate,troopergate,rose law firmgate,taxgate,arafat moneygate,plo funds gate, monicagate, healthcare lie-gate to get elected but never did squat after that, white house experience gate, but made tea and held dinners with no security clearancegate, Bosniagate, pregnant no insurancegate, take name off Michigan ballotgate...

Hillary and Bush are separated at Birthgate..
LIES ,LIES LIES LIES TO GET ELECTED AND DUPED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE..

WHY DO THESE HILLARY SUPPORTERS SUPPORT THIS VILE WOMAN'S LYING DECIEVING WAYS!!!
I GUEST STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES...

DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD...

MOVEON.ORG WITH DO IT FOR OBAMA..

SHE'S TOAST!!

this is a big lie that Obama can't win, because of one state, PA that has a number of bitter, older, white, dare I say racist-leaning voters. Everyone knows it. It is not a typical state.

Hillary absolutely can't win. I know because I, a die hard feminist, care enough about peace and integrity in government that I will NEVER vote for her. I will stay home. She is despicable. I'll never pull the lever for her, much as I would LOVE to vote for a woman for President. But it would have to be someone I could believe in, not a liar and an egotist like Hillary.

Party Elders PLEASE!!!!!

FACE DOWN HILLARY. GIVE HER SOME OF HER OWN MEDICINE> Remind her about the torturous Clinton years, the Blue Dress. THe REpulbican 527s will be all over this, and we all know it.

PLEASE NOW>> GET HER OUT OF THE RACE>

Make it so hot for her that she has to get out of the kitchen.

DONT WAIT ANY LONGER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We have to get her out so we can repair the damage done to the party!!!!

Dear JackSmith - Working Class,

Hillary has no chance in winning in November. She has more in common with Gorge Bush that John McCain; more than half the country hates her and find her untrustworthy. The media is doing a great job running up their ratings and making this competion closer than it is.

Hillary is the democratic version Gov. Huckabee, she has not chance in winning but wants to stay in the race to divide the party until they give her the nomination. It didn't work for Huckabee and it will not work for Hillary.

The media knows it, this is a blow out. He has won 15 more states, 140 more delegates, and 500,000 more popular votes.

Please tell Hillary nice try, but we don't count Florida and Michigan, she must have forgot, or missremebered like the Bosinia story; she agreed not to count these states along with the other democratic candidates.

I cannot understand why the surrogates do not at least mention some of the things the clintons are doing. The one that bothers me is the NAFTA with Bill signing it into law and Hillary being the champ for it until faced with voters who lost jobs because of it. Bill has made a whole lot of money for their combined bank account by going to countries like Columbia to seel them on our companies and jobs. ALl the tiem she opposes the contacts? Bill and Penn are doing this type of thing and who mentions it?

George W Bush is the greatest US President in history and McCain is going to win the 2008 election.

Has anyone noticed that Hillary is so uninspiring and at a loss for leadership that her campaign has taken to "copying" Obama's slogans of "Yes We Can!"? How about Hillary's recent comments that the PA win was a win for the PA voters? These comments were "stolen" by Hillary from Obama to boost her popularity and to add credence to an already losing campaign. Also, it appears that women in general and white women in particular are so caught up with having a woman president they are overlooking many of Hillary's glaring deficiencies. She does not impress the majority of the American people as someone who knows what she's doing on day one! Rather, she strikes us as someone who wants what she wants on day one and will promise everyone what they want so that she can get what she wants...problem is that she is only making certain special interest promises as usual so that this Country can run as it always has operated. It's time to turn the page people! We need a better government!

I am in agreement with all of the Obama supporters and those undecided people who are viewing the true reality. Clinton's days are numbered. Her recent win was grossly exaggerated. Obama is clearly the best choice. His intelligence, demeanor, ability to inspire etc so far exceeds Hillary that many are stunned, including me, that Hillary is still talking and dreaming of the Whitehouse. In order for her to win, she has to "play around" with the voting numbers. What type of foolishness is that? Get it together! Hillary is a loser and everyone knows it, despite the PA primary 10% or less lead!

OBAMA THE LIAR &^#%$#%$**
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FROM CHICAGO TRIBUNE
April 24, 2008

OBAMA STILL TAKES OIL MONEY

By Dan Morain

Sen. Barack Obama continued accepting donations from oil company executives and employees last month even as he aired ads in which he stated he took no oil company money, his campaign finance reports show.

Obama has taken at least $263,000 from oil company executives, family members and employees since entering the presidential race last year, including $46,000 last month. At least $140,000 has come in chunks of between $1,000 and $2,300, the maximum permitted under federal law.

Texas oil executive Robert L. Cavnar of Milagro Exploration and his wife, Gracie, have helped the Illinois Democrat raise at least another $50,000 by helping host a fundraiser earlier in the campaign.

Other oil industry donors have included Sinclair Oil President Ross Matthews of Texas and John B. Hess, chairman of Hess Corp., a New York-based oil producer and retailer with operations worldwide.

Hess, who has given to other presidential candidates, including Sen. John McCain, gave $2,300 to Obama last year, as did his wife, Susan. Hess gave $14,000 to Obama's Senate run in 2003. The oil executives did not return phone calls.

In the weeks leading up to the Pennsylvania primary, Obama aired a campaign spot in Indiana and Pennsylvania that sought to reinforce his theme that he would change the Washington culture, while also tapping into voter distress about the high price of gasoline. In the ad, he called for a windfall profits "penalty."

"Since the gas lines of the '70s, Democrats and Republicans have talked about energy independence but nothing's changed -- except now Exxon's making $40 billion a year and we're paying $3.50 for gas. I'm Barack Obama. I don't take money from oil companies or Washington lobbyists, and I won't let them block change anymore," says the spot, which aired as recently as April 8.

Obama's ad is factually correct. He does not take money from oil companies. A 1907 federal law bars all corporations from giving money to political candidates. However, oil company employees can make donations.

As the ad aired, Obama took $12,400 from oil company executives and employees in increments of $1,000 or more. Altogether, people who identify themselves as working for oil and gas companies donated $46,000 in March.

Obama spokesman Ben Labolt said unlike Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton and McCain, Obama refused to take money from federal lobbyists and political action committees.

"He accepted no contributions from oil and gas company political action committees, or from those who are paid to lobby Congress on behalf of oil and gas companies -- the money that is intended to purchase influence and access on behalf of corporate interests," Labolt said.

Clinton countered Obama's ad with one detailing his oil company-related donations from employees and executives of Exxon and other major petroleum companies.

Factcheck.org, part of the Annenberg School of Communications at the University of Pennsylvania, also chastised Obama for airing the spot.

"From our perspective, if there is a distinction between oil company PACs and lobbyists, and their executives, it is a mighty fine line," said Sheila Krumholz, director of the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics, which tracks campaign donations. "They all represent the same interest -- oil."

Bill Mintz, communications director for Apache Corp., a Houston-based oil company, said his decision to give -- he contributed $2,300 in February before Obama's ad aired -- was neither solicited by his company executives nor by Obama's campaign.

Mintz said in an interview that the Obama ad did not make him regret his donation. But he also said the spot underscored what he saw as a persistent problem in the political discourse over energy.

"I don't think either party is addressing the country's and world's energy needs realistically," Mintz said. "We're not going to produce our way out of this and we're not going to solve the problem with conservation and alternative energy."

Obama has too much class and too much intelligence to stoop to Clinton smear tactics. He's ahead and his job is grind out his victory and bring the party together - not drive it apart as Hillary and Bill are trying to do. The superdelegates will support the delegate winner. Clinton will even lose her mythical vote count (with Obama getting 0 in Michigan where he wasn't on the ballot) when the North Carolina voters reverse the numbers that Pennsylvania just put up.

I don't expect Obama to sink that low enough to pull out those so many skeletons in the Clintons closet, even though there is plenty to finish them for good. He is that sort of person. Honourable and queitly courageous. That is the reason why I am for Obama through thick and thin.

The only problem with this is that, as has been shown in PA a couple of days ago, this will not be appreciated by the majortity of working class people who are just so used to gutter politics which the Clintons are so good at.

Anyway, I think Obama just should be himself, without feeling the pressure to imitate Clinton. Winning the nomination is only a short term reward. Winning a respectable place in history is quite different. Clinton should remember that.

Hey Clinton supporters, did you know that you guys and gals get to pay $5 for a plastic cup of soda for being her supporter? $5 for a cup of soda? We all knew all along that she has a big financial problem but this is just plain desperation. She will see some cash flooding in post PA victory but will soon see that drying up as well, as people realize that even with that, she has no way of becoming the nominee. Let them have a party while they can. It could be their last.

To the disrespectable news media including principally Fox News, CNN, and ABC, here's a news headline for you:

"THE NEWS OF HILLARY'S SURVIVAL HAS BEEN
GREATLY EXAGERATED"

If her campaign is any indication of her Whitehouse. We will be in even more debt and asking China and Europe for donations.
Obama in 08

To the disrespectable news media including principally Fox News, CNN, and ABC, here's a news headline for you:

"THE NEWS OF HILLARY'S SURVIVAL HAS BEEN GREATERLY EXAGERATED"

Obama=McGovern/Mondale/Dukakis/Kerry..loser

Clinton=well Clinton................winner

It is not necessary to write a novel, just say he can't win. Good Grief!

Postedby: Who cares. Is not 10 points lead . Is only 9.2 lead. She lost anyway.

Obama's campaign has the right to use whatever is necessary against the Clinton campaign. All of the negative attacks were started by a losing campaign. Remember the promise to throw the kitchen sink at Obama.Why isn't Monica Lewinsky fair game? Do you want a President who lies about being under sniper attack. A president who dismisses lies as having mispoken due to lack of sleep. Ridiculous. How could the superdelegates consider this Clinton mess to be a viable respectable President for the United States.

If Hillary Clinton wasn't able to keep her eye on her husband while he cheated on her right under her nose, in the White House, what in the world would make anyone believe that she can keep her eye on the country when that purported call comes in at 3:00 a.m.? Sadly, Hillary Clinton doesn't care about America or its citizens, all she cares about is her inflated ego. If she cared about the United States, she would have dropped out of the race a long time ago. She can't win against McCain. That's why the dirty republicans who no longer need to worry about who their candidate will be have switched parties in order to vote in the democrat primaries and pushed Hillary Clinton into wins, albeit by very slim margins. Obama can win against McCain. Clinton cannot. If you want another 4 years of George W. Bush, vote for Hillary Clinton in the primaries. If you want to end the madness that Bush has inflicted upon the United States the last 8 years, then you must vote for Obama. It's that simple. No vote for Obama equals McCain in the White House and 4 more years of George W. Bush policies. This country simply cannot withstand another 4 years of republican rule. If McCain is elected, our country will collapse. Vote for Obama, or the U.S. will be finished. Yes, it's that serious.

> Marv Swett
"Guess that nixes Hillary's chances to lead."

I'm not defending Clinton per se. Just like to see a level playing field at least, and she was struggling uphill until March 13. Obama's character then became better known. Had it been known earlier,
the primary results would be different today. That's unfortunate for her in terms of fairness.

It beats my imaginations to see people argue like illiterates, every game has a rule, what is popular votes? popular votes in the contest of this game is delegates which is 2024. It will be morally wrong to put off someone ahead and bring in the person at the bottom as the nominee. I understand the way Hillary feels, she thot the presidency is her birth right but when proved wrong by a junior senator she seems mad at it. Dear is not about who is prepared at day one but rather who can deliver.

@Billw

"Separate from race, blasphemy against America (from the pulpit yet) is unacceptable, as was Wright's comments about 911. I'm a wartime veteran and that is absolutely uncalled for. One is known by the company one keeps."

Apparently you missed the comments about MLK. Here is Hillary's comments about MLK in 2007:

"Today, New Yorkers and Americans honor the life and legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. At this moment of great challenge for our country, I hope we can draw strength from the spirit of Dr. King, ....Still today, his words and works live on in our consciousness as an inspiration and a call to action."

Here are King's remarks about America:

"America is founded on genocide."

"We are criminals in that (Vietnam) war."

"The greatest purveyor of violence in the world today is my own government."

So King's words, delivered from the pulpit no less, are an inspiration to Hillary.

Guess that nixes Hillary's chances to lead.

Rev Wright's 2 minute blurb of a much longer sermon (which if you heard the sermon in its entirety was a rather interesting sermon) only offended those redneck, gun toting, johnnie walker rednecks and those scared as hell of a black man conservatives (Joe Scarborough, angry Pat BuchananaKKK, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Hell President Bush)!!! Those type of "typical white folks" hate to smacked in the face with a reality check..........There are a LOT of questions surrounding WHITE America...some idiot just stated that Rev Wright "blasphemed against America"....are you kidding....Slavery "blasphemed against God's law".....Those rednecks and the folks that push this Rev Wright crap are blaspheming idiots who are clueless...KKK-idiots....Shame on you!! Shame on you!!! The only folks buying into this b.s. are the one's who are afraid that their chickens are comming home to roast! LMAO....

Rev Wright's 2 minute blurb of a much longer sermon (which if you heard the sermon in its entirety was a rather interesting sermon) only offended those redneck, gun toting, johnnie walker rednecks and those scared as hell of a black man conservatives (Joe Scarborough, angry Pat BuchananaKKK, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Hell President Bush)!!! Those type of "typical white folks" hate to smacked in the face with a reality check..........There are a LOT of questions surrounding WHITE America...some idiot just stated that Rev Wright "blasphemed against America"....are you kidding....Slavery "blasphemed against God's law".....Those rednecks and the folks that push this Rev Wright crap are blaspheming idiots who are clueless...KKK-idiots....

To all of the a**holes that states 90% of the blacks voted for Obama because he is black is racisst...LMAO.....We have ALL (especially white folks) have been voting for a WHITE President since they started governing the country. So, can we all assume then that white folks have been a bunch of racist bigots all along because we have had nothing but white Presidents and the white race has done nothing but voted for white Presidents???? (Yawn) Is this why the political stats states that the HIll's supporters aren't all that smart? Common sense...I don't know....you tell me.....

Jacksmith... Working Class :-)

Posted by: jacksmith | April 23, 2008 12:52 PM

Hey Jacksmith, did you smoke pot? Your understanding of reality is somewhat strange!!

An election campaign is, in a way, kind of a show where candidates compete and the audience - the voters - decide who they prefer. But the position of a president is a job and criteria to be chosen for a job are radically different. And this must be the major theses against Clinton:

1. Hillary Clinton tells that she has a better experience. But the longevity of experience is only important for pension. It is performance that is important for getting the job. And with performance the picture is radically different - nearly every time it is like "being under sniper's fire in Bosnia" or another tall tale. So, experience is long but performance is poor.

2. Being President is not a contest before the audience - the President's work is relation with the Congress. In election contest she emphasizes her smearing tactic which she uses from the very beginning, from the promise to demonize all her opponents to her Health Care proposals in 1993. And, as we have seen then, smearing one's opponent is a bad tactic: smearing insults your opponents and alienates them. But no-rules street fighting is a bad methodology for President. As a result opposition becomes much stronger and often insurmountable. As Hillary Clinton definitely will not change, she would be a disastrous President. It seems to me that McCain understood this when he told that he preferred to compete with Clinton.

So, Hillary is smart, Barack is intelligent; Hillary is no-rules street fighter, Barack in comparison is a gentleman; Hillary is an impulsive extremist, Barack is reasonable. No comparison.

One more thing. The major Hillary's fans are groups that 1) Fanatically want just a woman (why not Monica Lewinsky, she has great presidential experience); 2) Believe in her GREAT experience thinking that it equals performance; 3) Are against black (notice: 50% black and 50% white is BLACK not WHITE!); 4) Believe naively that her no-rule street fighting will help her when she becomes President to fight for their interests. In some way, all these issues should be addressed.

Like now many voters (and our number grows steadily), if Hillary Clinton gets the nomination I will vote AGAINST THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY that supports such behavior and vote for John McCain.
By nominating Clinton Democratic Party would lose a lot. Continuing her smearing campaign Hillary Clinton helps McCain, helps Republicans against Democrats.

> Marv Swett
"Judging Obama based on Wright is a gross misunderstanding of the dynamic and evolutionary nature of Black America."

Separate from race, blasphemy against America (from the pulpit yet) is unacceptable, as was Wright's comments about 911. I'm a wartime veteran and that is absolutely uncalled for. One is known by the company one keeps.

BARACK OBAMA...THE REAL NOMINEE OF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY!

He should NEVER give in to this WITCH! He has far too many people who believe in him and his message. If the Clintons STEAL this nomination the Democrat Party can write off ALL their elections for at least a generation. I promise I will spend my last days on this earth doing all I can to DESTROY what passes for a political party. I will engage my friends, family and concerned strangers to assist me. If she wins by getting the most delegates...more power to her. I will hold my nose and vote for her. But if ONE RULE IS BROKEN to accomodate her ...IT"S ON!!!!!

LYING, CHEATING, STEALING...DOES NOT A PRESIDENT MAKE!

OBAMA...2008!

I pray Sen. obama is our next President and as his first act he puts people like Tom up above through re-education camps to help them get rid of their racial bias and learn to stand for the ideals we claim America was created to embody. Maybe we can deport those people who hate our future President back to the country of their origin.

@flarrfan

"Trouble is, Scheider died exactly one month before that, on Feb. 10, at age 75. Just another example of Hollywood's undying affection for Democrats."

That's odd. Is Scheider's trust managed out of Chicago?

That's another town with an undying affection for Democrats.

from the LATimes Top of the Ticket:

The Times' campaign finance expert Dan Morain has found Obama campaign records reporting a $50 donation by Roy Scheider, who lists his occupation as actor and his home as Sag Harbor, N.Y.

According to the campaign records, Scheider made the donation March 10.

Trouble is, Scheider died exactly one month before that, on Feb. 10, at age 75. Just another example of Hollywood's undying affection for Democrats.

Scheider was unavailable for comment.

[Really, that's what the story said! What I want to know is how they tried to get a comment.]

@Charles Talaros

"If this isn't enough, look at Obama's affiliations:"

Are you from the Department of Redundancy Department?

You spent the first half of your tirade listing how nasty Obama's affiliations were and then, just to make sure we "got it", you listed them again.

Well, I guess you have to give some to get some. Here are the list of Clinton associates who have either done or are doing time. These aren't just people who are marginally associated with the Clinton's; these people know the Clinton's *extremely* well. Thanks to http://www.gargaro.com/clintonconvicts.html for the list:

VARIOUS ARKANSAS:

1) Roger Clinton: Bill Clinton brother; drug trafficking conviction (Wall Street Journal "The Foster Test" January 14, 1994)

2) Dan Lasater: governor Bill Clinton contributor and state contractor: drug trafficking conviction (Wall Street Journal "The Foster Test" January 14, 1994)

3) Dan Harmon: Arkansas Seventh Judicial District prosecuting attorney and Bill Clinton friend and political ally: five federal racketeering, extortion, and drug distribution convictions (Wall Street Journal "Arkansas Justice" June 13, 1997)

4) Bill McCuen: Bill Clinton political ally: former Arkansas Secretary of State; bribery, tax evasion, kickbacks convictions (Wall Street Journal: Whitewater: "The Prosecution Rests" May 7, 1996)

WHITEWATER:

5) Webster Hubbell: Bill Clinton friend and political ally; Hillary Clinton Rose Law Firm partner: embezzlement; fraud; two felony convictions (Wall Street Journal "Whither Whitewater?" October 18, 1995)

6) Jim Guy Tucker: fraud; three felony convictions (Wall Street Journal "Second-Term Stall" February 11, 1997; Associated Press "Tucker Pleads Guilty to Cable Fraud" February 20, 1998)

7) William J. Marks Sr.: Jim Guy Tucker business partner; one conspiracy conviction (Associated Press "Whitewater Defendant Pleads Guilty" August 28, 1997)

8) Jim McDougal: Bill and Hillary Clinton friend, banker, and political ally: eighteen felony convictions (Wall Street Journal "Immunize Hale" May 29, 1996)

9) Susan McDougal: Bill and Hillary Clinton friend; former wife of Jim McDougal: four felony convictions (Wall Street Journal "Immunize Hale" May 29, 1996)

10) David Hale: Bill and Hillary Clinton friend, banker, and political ally: two felony convictions of conspiracy and mail fraud (Wall Street Journal "The Arkansas Machine Strikes Back" March 19, 1996)

11) Chris Wade: Whitewater real estate broker; two felony convictions (Wall Street Journal "Hard Evidence From a Federal Investigator" August 10, 1995)

12) Stephen Smith: former Governor Clinton aide; one conviction (Wall Street Journal "Hard Evidence From a Federal Investigator" August 10, 1995)

13) Larry Kuca: Madison real estate agent; fraudulent loans (Wall Steet Journal "Hard Evidence From a Federal Investigator" August 10, 1995)

14) Robert Palmer: Madison appraiser; one conspiracy felony conviction (Wall Street Journal "Hale Predicts Hillary Conviction" October 21, 1996)

15) Neal Ainley: Perry County Bank president; embezzled bank funds for Clinton campaign; two misdemeanor convictions (Wall Street Journal "Arkansas Bank Shot" May 4, 1995)

16) John Latham: Madison Bank CEO; bank fraud conviction (Wall Street Journal "Smoke Without Fire" January 12, 1996)

17) John Haley: attorney for Jim Guy Tucker; misdemeanor guilty plea; tax fraud (Associated Press "Tucker Pleads Guilty to Cable Fraud" February 20, 1998)

18) Eugene Fitzhugh: Whitewater defendant, pleaded guilty to one misdemeanor count of trying to bribe David Hale; is appealing a ten month prison sentence (The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, "Whitewater Defendants" February 22, 1998)

19) Charles Matthews: Whitewater defendant, pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor counts of bribery, served fourteen months of a sixteen month prison sentence (The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, "Whitewater Defendants" February 22, 1998)

ESPY:

20) Tyson Foods: guilty plea; $6 million federal court fines and investigative costs (Washington Post "Tyson Foods Admits Illegal Gifts to Espy" December 30, 1997)

21) Sun-Diamond Growers: $1.5 million fine for illegal campaign contributions to Espy's brother (Associated Press "A Look at Mike Espy Investigation" August 27, 1997)

22) Richard Douglas: former Sun-Diamond Growers official; several bribery convictions and guilty pleas(Washington Post "Tyson Foods Admits Illegal Gifts to Espy" December 30, 1997; Associated Press: "Lobbyist Pleads guilty in Espy Case" March 17, 1998)

23) James H. Lake: Sun-Diamond Growers lobbyist; three convictions regarding illegal campaign contributions to Espy's brother (Associated Press "A Look at Mike Espy Investigation" August 27, 1997)

24) Ron Blackley: Espy's chief of staff: financial fraud conviction; twenty-seven month prison sentence (Washington Post "Tyson Foods Admits Illegal Gifts to Espy" December 30, 1997; Associated Press: "Judge Sentences Espy Aide to Jail" March 18, 1998)

25) Smith Barney: improper payments to Espy; $1 million-plus fine (Associated Press: "A Look at Mike Espy Investigation" August 27, 1997)

26) Crop Growers Corporation: $2 million fine for money laundering to Henry Espy's campaign (Associated Press: "A Look at Mike Espy Investigation" August 27, 1997)

27) Brook Keith Mitchell Sr. (with his company Five M Farming Enterprises: four counts) for fraud (Associated Press: "A Look at Mike Espy Investigation" August 27, 1997)

28) Five M Farming Enterprises (with owner Brook Keith Mitchell: four counts) for fraud (Associated Press: "A Look at Mike Espy Investigation" August 27, 1997)

29) John J. Hemmingson, former head of Crop Growers Corporation: three counts relating to illegal campaign contributions to Henry Espy (Associated Press: "A Look at Mike Espy Investigation" August 27, 1997)

30) Alvarez T. Ferrouillet, Jr., Louisiana lawyer and Henry Espy campaign finance head: ten count conviction (Associated Press: "A Look at Mike Espy Investigation" August 27, 1997)

31) Municipal Healthcare Cooperative: Ferrouillet-related company; perjury, bank fraud, money laundering convictions (Washington Post: "Tyson Foods Admits Illegal Gifts to Espy" December 30, 1997)

32) Ferrouillet & Ferrouillet: Ferrouillet-related company; perjury, bank fraud, money laundering convictions (Washington Post: "Tyson Foods Admits Illegal Gifts to Espy" December 30, 1997)

CAMPAIGN FINANCE:

33) Michael Brown (Ron Brown's son): money laundering; misdemeanor conviction (Los Angeles Times, "Ron Brown's Son Pleads Guilty to Illegal Donation" August 29, 1997)

34) Eugene Lum: Clinton/Gore campaign contributor and colleague; felony conviction; money laundering (Los Angeles Times, "First Fund-Raising Sentences Meted Out" September 10, 1997)

35) Nora Lum: Clinton/Gore campaign contributor and colleague; felony conviction; money laundering (Los Angeles Times, "First Fund-Raising Sentences Meted Out" September 10, 1997)

36) Johnny Chung: Clinton/Gore campaign contributor and colleague; many visits to Clinton White House and Oval Office with mainland Chinese associates; several illegal campaign contributions, money laundering, tax fraud, and bank fraud guilty pleas (Associated Press: "Democrat Fund-Raiser Pleads Guilty" March 17, 1998)

37) Roger Tamraz: Clinton/Gore campaign contributor and colleague; many visits to Clinton White House and Oval Office; fugitive from Lebanon embezzlement convictions; target of French government financial investigation; BCCI connections (The Wall Street Journal: "Integrity of the Institutions" March 20, 1997, et. al.) CISNEROS:

38) Linda Jones: Henry Cisneros mistress; conspiracy, bank fraud, money laundering, and obstruction of justice federal felony guilty pleas; sentenced to three and one-half years in prison (Associated Press: "Cisneros Ex-Mistress Sentenced" March 25, 1998)

39) Patsy Jo Wooten: Linda Jones sister; one conspiracy guilty plea (Associated Press: "Cisneros Ex-Mistress Sentenced" March 25, 1998)

40) Allen Wooten: Linda Jones brother-in-law; one conspiracy guilty plea (Associated Press: "Cisneros Ex-Mistress Sentenced" March 25, 1998)

Obama is our Savior. Obama, Ayers, and Reverend Wright are Right! God D*** america! The stupid, bitter, racist "typical white people" of pennsylvania voted for clinton. How disgusting. They ignored their opportunity to redeem themselves for their racist past - slavery - and finally make Michelle proud. How sad. Please no hater responses, but do please stop buying guns you biiter small town hicks, and save it for my reparations check! Obama ''08, Repartions Check, ''09!

http://www.npr.org/programs/spe
cials/racism/010827.reparations.html

@Billw

"One is tempted, however "losing one's vote"
is not a pleasant gamble."

The only vote lost is the one not cast. I vote my conscience and that is what would keep me from voting for Clinton.

As for the anti-American nature of Obama's affiliations, one preacher in Chicago should not be used as the penultimate standard. After all, nearly everyone wants to sidle up to the image of Dr. Martin Luther King (at least every February) to show their solidarity with a man who pursued the path of peace. Consider this observation from a pastor, published in my local paper just last Sunday (the person "Kitner" in the following wrote a letter to the editor on April 13th):
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"A final misunderstanding from Kinter is to domesticate Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. He makes an unfavorable comparison between Wright and King, describing King as "perhaps the most notable minister who practiced Black Social Gospel." The implication seems to be that Martin Luther King Jr. never said anything or did anything that was offensive.

If all one knows about Martin Luther King Jr. is his famous "I have a dream" speech, then I suppose one could easily reach that conclusion. I have had the rare privilege of hearing Dr. King speak in person and, on one occasion, was privileged to shake his hand. I also am old enough to remember some of his statements. He once said, "America is founded on genocide."

One must remember, also, that he was decidedly against American involvement in the Vietnam War. He said, "We are criminals in that war." Again he said, "The greatest purveyor of violence in the world today is my own government."

Perhaps Kintner is too young to remember those statements, but were he around during those days and if Barack Obama had defend-ed King as "the most noble minister practicing the Black Social Gospel," would Kintner accuse Obama of "bad judgment?"

Without affirming or not affirming his candidacy as president, I heartily endorse Obama's speech explaining why, although he did not always agree with his minister, he did not withdraw from his church."
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Judging Obama based on Wright is a gross misunderstanding of the dynamic and evolutionary nature of Black America.

Role Model for Children - Obama

A few days ago Obama gave the 'finger' to Hillary on national television and smugly laughed about it with his audience. Is this type of malicious immaturity what you want your children to learn: lack of tolerance, vengeance and the bully mentality? After that one event, besides the mindless and uneducated, how could anyone seriously consider this Obama for any office?

Also, Obama's state-senate candidacy was launched at Weather Underground bombers Ayers house in 1995. Ayers who advocates the violent destruction of America may have much more to do with promoting Obama than we know. The organization MoveOn has aggressively intimidated delegates to vote for Obama and to shun Hillary and is likely closely connected with Ayers. Ayers finally got his bomb - Obama.

Obama also rigged his election to become senator by unfairly disqualifying his opponents. He did this by meticulously finding fault with each of the other candidates signed petitions until each of the contenders had to drop out, Obama was the last one standing, there was no election. This was another finger gesture towards the American public by Obama.

If this isn't enough, look at Obama's affiliations:
Wright
Meeks
Ayers
Abongo "Roy" Obama
Rashid Khalidi
Robert Malley
Hamas
McPeaks
Rezko
Auchi

And the list goes on...

This may be the time of the Anti-Christ, but do you want to be on the list of people who voted for him?

The republicans will throw mud at Obama in the general. They will SLIME Clinton (with her own slime at that)!

> Marv Swett
"I'm better off voting for a third party."

One is tempted, however "losing one's vote"
is not a pleasant gamble. Perhaps McCain will make his intent clear and believable to be unlike Bush before the election.

PS Re Clinton vs Obama, to my knowledge at least Clinton's ties don't appear to be nearly as anti-American as Obama's. Obama's past behavior is unacceptable in this regard in my book.

Gas and oil prices keep spiking. That's true. That's exactly why you should not vote republican.

I've donated more the 200 bucks to the Obama campaign. I give a bit each month in the hopes that he will win the nomination and general election and turn back this country from the foreign policy, fiscal and economic abyss. I would support Hilary if she had a chance to defeat McCain, I don't think she does. If McCain is elected in November, I will retreat from National politics and national media altogether for the next 4 years; if the economic downturn comes to the San Francisco bay area, then I'll think long and hard about leaving this country for good.

Dear Jacksmith....yes Bill Clinton won the White House twice not Hillary she was not running plus the economy, the war, foreign policies, gas prices, mortgage crises was not part of his administration at the time so he didn't have to prove anyting or work as the next president has to with all parties to bring back this country. Our dollar is the weakest it has ever been and China is buying up our financial companies like crazy. I understand that Hillary has been in the White House for 8 years, met heads of states during that time but that doesn't give her the credibility to run our country. She failed on healthcare, lied about Bosnia, free trade, the Peace Talks, Columbia which her husband and Mark Penn both pushed for, brought up wearing the flag pin and if you notice she doesn't wear one either. Her experiences are no better in foreign policy tht Obama's and her experiences as vast as they are don't show proven leadership in any way.

All I ask is that you be fair when making your assertions about one candidate or the other each has their strengths and each have their weaknesses but that is why when you become the President you surround yourself with people who can guide you. No one is ready to be President on Day One no one is trained for that job there are no courses to take and a diploma that is handed out.

Let's focus on the issues I am tired of Clinton bashing Obama and I am tired of Obama bashing Clinton. I want to hear what each one can do for me as a citizen. If we go by character than Bill Clinton should have never been made President because of his scandalous affairs it was an embarrassment to the country especially when he lied than had to admit to the affairs.

Issues....please stop all the bashing

Even though the Obama camp has said they will not bring up ALL of Hillary's past dirt - you can bet the republicans will IF she wins the nomination. So after all the people that voted for her because she was a white woman realizes the type of woman they voted for and they helped the democrats lose because of it - then maybe they'll will learn to read and find out things for themselves instead of depending on what the spin doctors say.

RE: Experience for the White House

joel-texas wrote:

"no one is ever ready. NO ONE!"

Smartest comment all day.

survey by the Triple-A and the Oil Price Information Service finds that the national average for retail gas has reached $3.51 a gallon for the first time. Crude oil, meanwhile, is nearing $120 dollars a barrel.This maters more than all this stupid playing the race card, kids. I am about to switch to the Republican Party.

@Billw

"As I said, now Clinton has a fair shake. They both have baggage. Hard to tell which drags the ground more."

True enough.

I might have been able to support Hillary had her husband not entered the equation. But he sees her presidency as a chance to redeem his legacy. He will live every day vicariously through her. He will insinuate himself, when he is able (and he will try when ever he can), into every decision that comes across her desk. That makes her taking the oath of office a goal I cannot support. She also has the potential of bringing the same busted group of idiots that populated the Clinton economic and foreign policy team.

She carries not only her baggage but Bill's as well.

Osama is inexperienced. McCain is too much like Bush's administration to be considered a change for the better.

I'm better off voting for a third party.

wow....

love those numbers!

CLINTON SUPORTED BY THE KKK!

its got a slight ring of truth to it!

AND to ANYONE THAT SAYS OBAMAS NOT READY!

have you seen what we put into the white house over the last eight years!

no one is ever ready. NO ONE!

its the hardest job on the planet!
and she cant even get through a primary without stabbing her own party in the back!

what do you think shes gonna do for you?

god help this country if the super delegates pull a bush and let this ticket be bought!

The superdelegates are mostly down-ticket candidates. They will support whomever they think will, as head of the ticket, give them the best chance for re-election.

Bill Clinton had no coattails in 1992. Hillary's secretive health care campaign cost the Democrats BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS IN 1994!

It took till 2006 for the Democrats to regain Congress.

Do you think marginal Democratic candidates will support another Clinton on the top of the ticket, or a young, attractive new candidate who has brought hundreds of thousands of new voters into the Democratic party who are likely to remain Democrats and active for the next generation?

I hate to post again so soon after a long post, but I had to respond to Anthony saying we'd have to make up something about McCain being friends with somebody like Ayers. No need to make it up, Anthony, which is fortunate, because I don't believe in making things up. You can find this on the internet to verify it, if you wish:

Senator John McCain appeared on the radio show of unrepentent felon G. Gordon Liddy on Nov. 7, 2007. This is part of the conversation:

Liddy: Sen. John McCain...[is] a genuine war hero and a man who has been tested as have few men ever, and has passed muster. [He had] an experience in the Hanoi Hilton that was remarkable. I spent five years in prison, but it was here in the United States, and the only torture I endured was being forced to listen to rap music from time to time.

McCain (laughing): Well, you know I'm proud of you, I'm proud of your family, and I'm proud to know your son Tom, who is a great and wonderful guy, and its always a pleasure for me to come on your program. And, congratulations on your continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our country great.

@Jarhead

"Sen. Obama said his relationship with Mr. Ayers is inconsequential because he was only eight years old when Mr. Ayers was planting his bombs."

Quit using logic. It will melt their heads.

When faced with incontrovertible facts, your opponent will merely face them by running around shouting and waving their hands wildly in the air.

Sheeh! Don't you know ANYTHING about modern politics?

> Marv Swett

As I said, now Clinton has a fair shake. They both have baggage. Hard to tell which drags the ground more.

Here's an interesting comparison. From 1915 to 1944, the ten following states had the highest KKK membership in the nation.

Indiana 240,000
Ohio 195,000
Texas 190,000
Pennsylvania 150,000
Illinois 95,000
Oklahoma 95,000
New York 80,000
Michigan 70,000
Georgia 65,000
New Jersey 60,000
Florida 60,000

Of these, Clinton has won 8 of 11. Obama took Georgia and his home state of Illinois. Indiana has not been decided. I think we can all see what's going on here and where Clinton's "support" is coming from.

It is a shame that we are really not there yet as citizens to source out the best person for president whether it be a Democrat or Republican. We are so polorized that we can't look to the other party to find a great candidate. I am the last person in the world who wants another president like George W. Bush and his a-hole conterpart Cheney but I swithced to Republican from Independent because of the right candidate for the presidency...Ron Paul. I will still be voting for Paul in the NC primary and I urge all residents to do the same. Ron Paul may not become president but it is time to show this country and those who have a strong hold on our future that we want the person for the PEOPLE and not who the main steam media tells us are the front runners or who is bought or paid for. I am afraid you are all going to get exactly what you have been asking for, a Democrat. But she is a devil in sheep's clothing and he is not ready to be president.

Sen. Obama and Mr. Ayers have remained friendly since they met in 1995. They served together on the board of the Woods Foundation. Both spoke at a testimonial dinner for Rashid Khalidi, a former PLO spokesman who is now a professor at Columbia University. (Mr. Khalidi is another of Sen. Obama's circle that journalists covering his campaign don't think you need to know about.) Sen. Obama said his relationship with Mr. Ayers is inconsequential because he was only eight years old when Mr. Ayers was planting his bombs.

she lost texas, she stabbed her party in the back.

hell she cant even keep her husbands junk outa interns mouths!

and you think shes gonna run the country!

shes in debt. and outa time!
just like bush!

she has pushed away the people that are gonna have to deal with this country

she preys on stuborn old voters and mexicans. its really sad!

i can connect anyone you want to billary!
so dont even bring up people he has tlaked to over the last 20 years!

and the weathermen aurgument are f'ing kidding me.

talk to me about bill's werthermen pardons!

shes an ego-maniac and we have had enough!

so pull your head out of you backsides and get on board.

obama 08!

Jacksmith,

The reason Obama is leading in delegate count, popular vote, and in national polls is because he has been the stronger candidate. The reason we have these primaries is to choose the strongest candidate.

Clinton won by 8.5% in a state where she has family roots & at a time when the media has been climbing down Obama's throat in character assasination mode. It was not enough to catch Obama's lead.

The real question is why was the vote so close? Clinton's negativity ratings are evidence of how most people feel. She has changed her mind on key issues-- the war and NAFTA. Her judgement is questionable. She has no moral center. Nevermind her negativity ratings. She can't possible beat McCain.

@Billw

"Exposure of Obamas close relationship to shady characters..."

Coming from a Clinton supporter, this is rich indeed!

I don't think there are enough electrons in the 18 Billion year old universe to list all of the shady characters in the Clinton's past. Shall we wait until after the convention to begin listing them, or shall we begin now.

What do you say, Bill?

Have you had contact with Jim and Susan McDougall lately?

Did you know there is a web site filled with people who are associates of the Clinton's who have either done time in prison or who are serving time?

http://www.gargaro.com/clintonconvicts.html

I am a 62 year old Republican woman who plans to vote for Barack Obama for President. If Hilary were to be the Dem. nominee by some slight of the hand,I would choose to vote for McCain

Well if guilt-by-association is a guide to selecting a Commander-in-Chief, Hillary Clinton sleeps with a 70's radical who smoked pot but didn't inhale, had shady real estate transactions with people who served time in a federal pen, who had several extra-marital affairs that cost his presidency valuable political clout, and has been referred to the U.S. Senate for Impeachment Proceedings.

Posted by: Marv Swett | April 23, 2008 2:30 PM

Actually, I've heard rumors that she spending more time sleeping with a Muslim than with Bill. (Not that there's anything wrong with that.) Huma Huma, feel free to chime in anytime.

Come on dems, enough of this fighting already! Questions about character are only appropriate if they are directed at Republicans - you know that! Obama's comfortable association with an unrepentant former terrorist should not induce queasiness in any true democrat who shares the same humane values that Obama extols, so let's get real! If we keep destroying our own party, the Republicans will just sit back and win this thing without even trying. We have to make up a scenario about McCain being friends with somebody like Ayers instead.

I have skimmed through the comments made so far, and some of you are not just smoking funny stuff. Some of you are mainlining.

Let me say from the get-go that I am an Obama supporter. The idea that Hill'ry's victory in PA puts the kibosh on Obama's chances is nonsense. First of all, black people are the Democratic Party's most loyal constituency, and they constitute only 10% of PA's population. Secondly, seniors are the core of Hill'ry's demographic, and PA is second only to Florida in the average age of its population. And thirdly, new registrations and switched registrations suggest very strongly that regardless of who the Democratic nominee is, November will bring a Democratic victory in PA.

Two things about Hill'ry particularly irritate me. One is this rosy image she has of herself as a fighter who has withstood all the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune and is still standing. But in 1994, largely because of her and her husband, not a single new Democrat was elected to the Congress. She may still be standing, but lots of good Democrats got flushed down the drain because of her. And it took the Democratic Party twelve years, until 2006, to recover from it. Neither the party nor the country can afford another go-round like that.

The other thing that irritates is this claim Hill'ry makes that the world would sit up and take notice if we elected a woman president. She can do this secure in the knowledge that although she is free to play the sex card, Obama dare not play the comparable race card. Now here is what irritates--Hill'ry insults our intelligence, because she seems to think that because Obama can't say it, we're too stupid to think it on our own, or to appreciate the perfidy of her approach to the issue. Either that, or, even worse yet, she is so self-absorbed that she doesn't realize it herself.

Fact is, Hill'ry, women currently are heads of government in six countries, and only one of them was preceded in office by her husband--Cristina Kirchner in Argentina. The others did it entirely on their own: Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf in Liberia, Michelle Bachelet in Chile, Helen Clark in New Zealand (she's been PM since 1997), Angela Merkel in Germany, and Gloria Macapagal Arroyo in the Philippines, which now has, in Ms. Arroyo, its second woman president. In addition to this, women have had the top job in the last half century in other countries, too: Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Israel, the U.K., Ireland, and Norway. Nowhere, however, has a black person had the top job in a majority-white country. The closest anyone has come to that since ancient Rome was actually one that didn't work out very well--the Fujimori government in Peru.

As for Obama not being old enough or having enough experience, he's four years older than Dmitriy Medvedev.

I agree with the comments from Leam Rasby and SW2DO who cite the eager but misguided Jacksmith and the inaccuracy of his claims. To Jacksmith: I would advise that you proofread your commentary after you have a chance to cool down and before you submit it for the world to see. You have every right to your opinion about what might happen in the future, but I fear that when you present such opinions as if they were fact and even "crystal clear" fact, you expose yourself as a slave to your emotional reactions, and you appear blind to the reality of the situation.

Senator Obama and Senator Clinton each have earned a little more than three-fourths of the elected delegates needed for nomination, and the inconclusive spread and arguable value of the superdelegates does not help the Democratic party render a clear winner at this point. If the Democrats had to pick a winner today it would almost have to be Obama since he leads in all the true measures of success in the primary contest so far.

On that subject, Senator Obama has a significant lead over Senator Clinton in every statistical measure of likelihood to be nominated. He leads in popular vote by many thousands, elected delegates by almost two hundred, total of elected and "super" delegates by 170 or so, an enormous lead in campaign funds, and in the level of spending on current and future primaries. Clinton is worse than broke and behind in every vote category.

When you refer to his "crushing defeat" you really did yourself a disservice, as it appears you only starting watching the results this morning. In the primaries that have already run, one might propose that significant victories for either candidate (or crushing defeats for the opponent) were those races in which the spread of popular vote was 25% or greater, just to throw out a number for comparison. Of the 15 primary races that have ended with a 25% spread or greater, only one (Arkansas!) has gone to Senator Clinton. Barack Obama has won 14 out of 15 of what might really be called "crushing deafeats", only losing by this margin in the Clinton's home state!

Add to this that Obama has significantly more victories overall, and I think we're painting a picture of someone who has a very real chance of becoming the next President not to mention the Democratic nominee. Your support for the candidate of your choice is laudable, but you should support your candidate with facts when you claim they are facts, and when you are just cheering your candidate on you probably shouldn't misrepresent the facts to other readers less sophisticated than yourself; they might be too easily swayed by your heartfelt stomping for your hero.

@Richard

I agree with Richard. I believe it is time that all anti-war activists from the 1960s and 1970s disclose their relationships with all protest groups. Bill Clinton attended an anti-war rally in the UK in the 1970's, so he should disclose who he associated with in that period, no matter how tangential to his current position.

We should weed out all violent radicals from 30-40 years ago. They might just ingest enough anti-arthritis medication to pull the pin on a grenade and kill themselves.

Who knows what kind of carnage these septuagenarians might be capable of! We need to act NOW!

Just what is wrong about a relentless pursuit of the Presidency?? What is so bad about a tough person willing to keep going and change people's minds about the opponent? What is so bad about playing the game to win? That is what Prince Obama was doing 2 months ago and NOBODY had a problem with it because he was the next new trend toy. Send Barry back to the ghostwriter--he needs a new book about himself. The guy LOST in PA. You can spin it any way you want, Obamatrons--some people don't trust him. And if you really think Obama is going to carry states like Idaho in November, you deserve him as your President. Dems need the states Clinton wins: not the ones Obama wins. Once again, like Bush, the President we deserve: big smile, stirring speeches, "unity"..it doesn't fill my gas tank,

Jack Smith -- Where do you get your foolish logic. Clinton's win in PA did nothing to change the race. Obama will be even further ahead of her in 2 weeks.

As for your absurd ascertian that he can't win in Nov. I think the same suggestion you made is true. Hillary needs to fully support Obama WHEN he IS the nominee. Nearly 60% of the American people do not trust her, and she could not beat McCain (especially without the Black vote). The Clintons are devisive and untrustworthy. If somehow Hillary steals the nomination, the Democratic party would be forever destroyed because young voters and Blacks would abandon the party.

PA was simply Clinton's third home state (AR, NY, PA). She was leading by 26% 2 months ago, and only won by 10%. She has only won 1 state (AR) with 60% while Obama has won 11 states with 60%. The only case for the "he can't win" argument is because many whites can't phathom a Black president, so they vote for the white girl.

Perhaps the only way for the Dems to win this is to have both on the ticket, however, since he is leading in delegates, votes and states won, it would seem much more fair to have Hillary as the VP. Obama still has won twice as many states, and the "big States" argument simply offends voters in the smaller states.

Hillary should have dropped out 2 months ago, but her Lex Luther-type ego chose to use the scorched-earth tactics she has employed. Obama has much more controversial stuff he could use against her, but he chose to use class instead.

Yesterdays primary was the first since Obama's Wright and San Francisco fiascos. Obama lost by almost 10 percent, even though he FAR outspent Clinton on advertising. This indicates Clinton has the advantage from here on out, except likely for North Carolina. Exposure of Obamas close relationship to shady characters and his negative remarks about small town people have shown his true character. This gives Clinton a fair shake, which she should have had all along.

Hey Rob,

Is it better that your connection with "The Weathermen" is that you happen to have served on the board with him in a charitable organization.....

OR

You pardoned two of the members who were caught unloading close to a thousand pounds of dynamite in 1984 from a truck.

Let me clue you in Einstein, Bill Clinton did the latter in a round of last minute presidential pardons in 2001. This aint a conspiricy theory, the evidence in written in stone & provided by the U.S Department of Justice.

http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/clintonpardon_grants.htm

Maybe thats the reason hey've blocked release of documents relating to these pardons & clemency?

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-03-06-clinton-library-foia_N.htm

Hillary LOST yesterday! Why? Because she needed a 18-25% victory to get back in the delegate race and convince supers that "the tide has turned." Her "victory" was only 9% in a state that set up completely for her.

For all those who think that anything else matters: the party's nominee for President is chosen by delegates to a nominating convention. The candidate with a majority of delegates gets the nomination. Nothing else matters or counts.

The only big state left is North Carolina. Hillary will lose there. Although voting may go on till June, the simple, indisputable fact is: time has run out on Hillary.

History will show she lost this nomination in Iowa (came in 3rd), South Carolina (Bill Clinton's racist comments), Super Tuesday (her day of coronation that never happened) and the 12 states Obama won consecutively after Feb. 5 that the Clinton campaign never prepared for.

Bottom line: it was clearly her nomination as New Years Day dawned in 2008 but she mismanaged the campaign and her finances - not ideal characteristics for a President.

Upstart, underdog Barack Obama will be the next President of the United States.

Go Obama!! Forward to Victory in these states.

Thank you Pennsylvania for your outstanding work. You get the nod =) Now let us be further united and support our candidate to victory past these upcoming states, through and through.

We can do it. Yes We Can! '08

Go Obama!! Forward to Victory in these states.

Thank you Pennsylvania for your outstanding work. You get the nod =) Now let us be further united and support our candidate to victory past these upcoming states, through and through.

We can do it. Yes We Can! '08

Go Obama!! Forward to Victory in these states.

Thank you Pennsylvania for your outstanding work. You get the nod =) Now let us be further united and support our candidate to victory past these upcoming states, through and through.

We can do it. Yes We Can! '08

Yesterdays primary was the first since Obama's Wright and San Francisco fiascos. Obama lost by almost 10 percent, even though he FAR outspent Clinton on advertising. This indicates Clinton has the advantage from here on out, except likely for North Carolina. Exposure of Obamas close relationship to shady characters and his negative remarks about small town people have shown his true character. This gives Clinton a fair shake, which she should have had all along.

i've never seen such stupidity...let's see...Clinton wants republicans to win? Right...next dose of acid coming your way...Can you name one plan Obama has put forth for the housing crisis? Right...none. Social Security? Obama hasn't mentioned it. I don't care who Obama used to hang out with, or who he's snorted coke with, but middle America does...do you have to be a former drug user or alcoholic to get the nomination these days? Obama says he's going to change the process in Washington...oh yeah..like Mitch McConnell is really going to help with that..has he talked about how he's gonna work across the other side of the aisle? Naw...too busy photo opping his kids at the day care center...I'd rather Obama show he's skilled at the 200 year old process he's so desperate to change...can he actually pass a law, chair a commmittee meeting before he calls for changing the system? I think the system works fine when we raise taxes on the wealthy, have universal health care, stop nuclear proliferation, have an honest justice Dept., abide by international treaties, and remove our troops from a war we created out of whole cloth, the system is fine--it's the individuals who have corrupted the system that are the problem, hence we have elections.

I'd love to hear the Republicans in the Senate with Obama as president fawn all over themselves to cooperate with him...what kind of dream world do these "educated" voters live in? Lawmaking is hard stuff--something Obama is not skilled at..look at his record---the dude didn't even chair his Iraq-Nato committee once...that shows ignorance of the system, not an ability to change it.

How does Pat Tillman's family think about Obama ignoring Afghanistan? Oh yeah, we have troops there too? I think Obama supporters are in for a huge surprise...especially when they rationalize the electorate's behavior when he can't win any significant states where it's not republicans crossover voting. What do Obama supporters say about PA? "She was supposed to win." Why is that? It's because she's better, better, better. Why wasn't Obama supposed to win? Why can't he buy a catholic vote? She's way better than a man running not on his accomplishments (none) but on his image. I would rather see McCain try and extricate himself from Iraq's woes for the next 4 years than watch Obama fumble and lurch in the vineyard only to find that it's a lot harder in real life than in the fantasy world of the primaries where caucus' are substituted for actual voting. Remember, Obama can't win a state primary only among democrats...Anybody who voted for Reagan and says they will vote for Obama is a liar. He can have their vote. I want liberals voting with my candidate.. Obama ain't a liberal..no liberal gives Oil companies huge tax breaks. No Obama supporter I have talked to can justify this vote-embarassingly, many don't even know he voted this way. One went so far as to accuse me of making it up. When I showed him the Senator's voting record , he turned purple and then ashen. Hillary Clinton will appoint more women and minorities to important judgeships and cabinet positions
than will Obama--just look at his campaign--run by white men. His leading female foreign policy advisor has to quit---Obama not only can't take the heat, he doesn't deserve to be on the ballot, having done nothing to afford himself of the status of presidential nominee. Has he done anything but read someone else's speechwriting...what freaking skill does that take? Can't pass a law, can't win an actual election among democrats, he's unfit. The media love him because, in case you missed it, the media are dominated by Clinton haters. CNN takes the cake, followed by the Post, and even the endorsement-friendly NY Times that simply cannot write a story without criticizing Clinton. Well, this is the same paper that hired Judith Miller to push the war...look where that ended up...so a NY Times endorsement comes at a price...Here's a no brainer for Obama supporters. What is the difference between Obama and GW Bush? Both are centrists who ambiguously discuss the future, one as a president leaving office, one is a wanna be...but we saw through Bush right away..he and Diebold had to steal that election...here it is evident that the American people deserve what they get...an under-performing affirmative action hire. I'd never hire Obama to grind it out on a day to day basis as a lawmaker...his track record shows that he doesn't have one. As president, he'd be worth a laugh watching him frown as he accuses those of impeding his message of change. Get real. I want someone who can pass laws, get them signed, and re-shape the Supreme Court while discharging the powers of the executive branch in alignment with the constitution. Clinton is best suited for this, not B.O. Oh...a reminder...is he or isn't he going to explain why he won't release hie 2002 tax records on the income from his property sale...he released everything BUT the one set of returns that are problematic...savvy...insider that he is...when he criticizes Washington, he criticises his own Senate seat. WHat a dolt. The New Deal was bad? The Square Deal? The New Frontier? Just which era are you running again, oh friend of Ted Kennedy? Oh, I see, it's only the Clinton years that were bad..Jeez..what hypocrisy. Can't wait until June when the superdelegates realize that their job is not to annoint, but to select.

The people of PA obviously remember Shanksville on 9/11, and that's a good thing. As someone just said, Obama hangs out with a person who bombed the Pentagon. Isn't it illegal for a sitting US Senator to associate with terrorists? And let's not forget his church's endorsement and support of the Hamas Terror Manifesto. What's wrong with these Obama supporters?

The people of PA obviously remember Shanksville on 9/11, and that's a good thing. As someone just said, Obama hangs out with a person who bombed the Pentagon. Isn't it illegal for a sitting US Senator to associate with terrorists? And let's not forget his church's endorsement and support of the Hamas Terror Manifesto. What's wrong with these Obama supporters?

The people of PA obviously remember Shanksville on 9/11, and that's a good thing. As someone just said, Obama hangs out with a person who bombed the Pentagon. Isn't it illegal for a sitting US Senator to associate with terrorists? And let's not forget his church's endorsement and support of the Hamas Terror Manifesto. What's wrong with these Obama supporters?

@Wyatt

Are you saying that all of the Clinton's associates are free from convictions, scandals, etc?

Are you really going to claim that?

If you are, would you please give me time to inhale between loud guffaws?

what is wrong with you people? 4th grade math proves she cant win. she has less delegates, less popular vote. less victories and the victories she does have are from typicaly demcrat states anyway!

she is a thorn in "her" partys side!

she has shown she is a backstabber!

so if she meets behind closed doors and and "talks" (we all know money talks) super delegates to back her and ignor the american people. I hope someone blows this country up if that happens .

wow that would be 12 years of "bought" presidents!

you morons sound more like BUSH'IES everyday!

OBAMA gets my vote even if its a write in!

open your eyes and stop aurguing like a drunk chick!

Do we really want to give Bill another opportunity to soil the floors of the Oval Office and to prey upon young interns? I say it's time for Obama to play the sex card.

Charlie, thanks for an intelligent post.

Hillary's days are indeed numbered.

I expected so much more from Mrs. Clinton. I was excited when I first heard she was putting in her bid for the presidency. Once the campaign began, however, her insincerity became a huge turn off. Her latest smear campaign attempts against her rival Mr. Obama are a slap in the face for all democrats. I just pray Mr. Obama can remain focused on continuing his campaign on a positive note and not descend to the depths Mrs. Clinton has in her relentless ambition to be president. In my opinion her bid is for her own gain and not as much for the good of the country or the American people. America cannot continue to suffer as a result of "Politics as usual" Mr. Obama gets my vote.

@Rob

Well if guilt-by-association is a guide to selecting a Commander-in-Chief, Hillary Clinton sleeps with a 70's radical who smoked pot but didn't inhale, had shady real estate transactions with people who served time in a federal pen, who had several extra-marital affairs that cost his presidency valuable political clout, and has been referred to the U.S. Senate for Impeachment Proceedings.

Guess we should take a pass on Hillary, no?

Obama Worshippers - Please clue us in on any plan Barry has to improve this country. Anything. The dude is completely devoid of any details on how he'll make everything better. All he offers are talking points and demagoguery. One thing I know, though, is that the company a person keeps reveals a lot. Barack Hussein Obama has a long history of close associations with some very troubling people.

I'm a registed republican and have been so for 20 years. If we are lucky enough to have Obama win the Democratic Nomination I will most definitely vote for him in the general election, as will many of my family members who are also republican. Hillary is just another politician who wants to be President for her own benefit and not the country's. Her arguement is that she should be nominated because she knows how to "defeat" republicans, well we do not need someone in office who's goal is to "defeat" half the country. We need someone to unite the country, which Obama does or seems capable of anyway. Will he be able to? Who knows, but it's possible, but we know Hillary wont even try. She is as corrupt and money hungry as Bill Clinton was and GW Jr is now.

Okay, so the mud-slinging, win-at-any-cost candidate won 10-14 more delegates than Obama and now trails by only 500,000 to 600,000 popular votes, instead of 700,000 to 800,000.

It's important to realize that Senator "Win-At-Any-Cost" is still losing and will continue to lose ground, even as she and her husband continue to sling mud and remind the superdelegates that she's their only choice against McCain ("Obama is Black, for God's sake - didn't you notice?!").

The most immediate result will be that a steady stream of infuriated superdelegates will declare for Obama over the next several weeks, continuing the ten-to-one advantage he's enjoyed since January among superdelegates declaring their loyalties.

Sure, Hillary's ten-point win in PA means she can continue the race all the way through the last primary.

Which is fine - it still will end with Obama well ahead in committed delegates, superdelegates, and the popular vote.

At that point, the few remaining uncommitted superdelegates will declare for Obama. Then Hillary will reluctantly concede, and the Democratic race will finally be over.

In the meantime, Hillary will have saved the Republican party millions of dollars on attack ads (they can just rerun hers, over and over) - and that, folks, will be her final legacy.

Sad. So sad. But that's where "win-at-any-cost" gets you.

At least we'll finally be rid of the Clintons - both of them.

And we can choose an honorable president: Barack Obama.

ust because he hangs out with 70's radicals who bombed things in a rage against the machine and consorts with America hating pastors and have as mentors aged communists and marries a woman who shouts about blacks being excluded from America's caste system even though she has degrees from the most presigious universities and holds jobs in the most elite institutions - you think that Obama has a problem? Geeze, what's the matter with you? Get a grip! Obama's the new JFK and the new Messiah all rolled up into one. Don't you read the papers? Obama hangs our with a person who bombed the Pentagon. No problem? Nonsensical theme? Paranoia?

Ok then.

In response to those who insist that a 9-10% margin of victory is not significant, I would like to point out that Obama supporters have long been clamoring for Clinton to drop out of the race due to the inevitability of the pledged delegate math, i.e. when the primaries end, Clinton will trail Obama in pledged delegates, therefore only the superdelegates overturning the "will of the people" could result in a Clinton nomination. At this late stage in the primary season, when the "inevitable" candidate loses a major state primary by a 9-10% margin, this raises questions about whether that candidate truly holds an electoral mandate. Therefore, I don't believe that Obama supporters can have it both ways. You can either continue to insist on his inevitability and call for Clinton to step aside, or you can stop saying that Clinton's margin of victory in Pennsylvania was insignificant. To say and believe both things is, in my opinion, a contradiction.

Y'know, it's so funny this reverend wright thing that clinton keeps bringing up. i seem to remember when monica threw the white house into a frenzy and bill -n- hill needed marriage counselling, who did they turn to? no, couldn't be...the same fella? the unamerican preacher who hill said she'd walk out on? yep. and guess what, their marriage seems to have worked since then. must be an unamerican marriage then.

notwithstanding the pathological nature of her lies, the extremely poor money-management that she's shown during this campaign is a dead giveaway that she's NOT ready come day one. Unless of course the new job description of the president includes lying and being a spendthrift. oh yeah, we have that now it's four more years of bush policies continuing under clinton, not mccain that we should be worried about.

Listen, If you think that all those people who came out to vote for Hillary was FOR Hillary, then you have had the wool pulled over your head. If you think that Reps in PA just stayed at home and watch the election then you are clueless. To make what happen yesterday plain. This win for Hillary was a win for Rep all across America. They know who they need to win this election. It's the Dem who are confused!! I see a breakdown of a lot of numbers from yesterday but those statistic I have yet to see.

Hilary would have trouble recognizing the truth if it hit her in the ego.

A woman who can't tell the difference between a sniper and a little girl holding a bouquet?

Sleep deprived? Yes, just what we need when that famous telephone call comes at 3 AM...a sleep-deprived liar who will tell some general to "obliterate" West Virginia or Italy.

Obama and McCain have their shortcomings, but Clinton is vile and smarmy.

@kustas

"like peace in Ireland,"

*Northern* Ireland's peace was worked out between the two sectarian factions, the Irish Republic, and the United Kingdom. The only "U.S" contribution was the private actions of former U.S. Senator George Mitchell, who stayed in Ireland to help negotiate the Good Friday Accords.

The Clinton Administration had *nothing* to do with that work.

Nice try.

"working toward peace in the middle east,"

Working like idiots to force both the Israelis and Palestinians into an agreement that neither side would accept?

You're making my case for me quit well. Keep going.

"..stopping the gencide in Bosnia,"

After the ethnic cleansing had already happened. This is the same rationale that the Bush Administration uses to argue that Baghdad's violence level is lower; it is lower because there are fewer Shiite and Sunni families living amongst each other due to ethnic partition.

I guess you are arguing Bush and Clinton are the same in their foreign policy?

"..a growing economy,"

A balloon economy. Just like the Bush's growth since 2002 has been due to a balloon economy from sub-prime mortgages. Clinton's economy was fueled by deflated oil and venture capital flooding the dot com boom.

What was Bill's great response to the tech bubble pop?

"..jobs for working people,"

Which one's were those? Did you know that most "jobs for working people" involve servicing each other's debt? Is that what you mean? If so, then how are Bush and Clinton different again?

damn, let's no do that!Let's give the presidency to someone who's greatest votes are "Present!"

Hey, MISTER ALL CAPS TOM.
You probably should stay off the blogs. Typing in all capital letters is very hard for people to read. The human eye needs to move across letterforms easily so there is no strain on the ocular nerves. This strain can cause injury to the central cortex of the brain which in turn causes humans to lose all common sense. This would explain why you wrote what you did. Please practice typing with the all caps key turned off. You will know if it is working when you actually type something that doesn't make you sound like a complete bigoted idiot.

RACISM = 92% of blacks voting for a black man.
Any objective comparison of the relationships of the two candidates to the black community will show that Clinton has the deeper ties, yet "somehow" they ALL voted by SKIN COLOR!!!
sad.

Jacksmith claims that "Barack Obama has no real chance of winning the national election in November at this time. His crushing defeat in Pennsylvania makes that fact crystal clear."

In reality, polling has consistently shown that Barak Obama does much better than Hillary Clinton against John McCain.

To put things in perspective, Hillary Clinton winning by 10% in Pennsylvania is hardly a "crushing" victory, given that she was ahead by 20% a few weeks ago, and given that she had to win by at least 25% just to have a chance of catching up to Obama's lead. In terms of "crushing" defeats, look at how Obama won in Virginia by 23%, or Minnesota by 34%, or Kansas by 48%, or Colorado by 34%, and so on down the line. Clinton narrowly winning in a few large states isn't enough to offset her crushing losses in twice as many smaller states, which is why she has not only less popular support than Barak, but fewer campaign contributors, and most relevant for the Democratic primary, fewer delegates.

Hillary has nobody to blame but herself for her failure. She had all of the financial and institutional advantages going into this election. Unfortunately, by running an arrogant, incompetent campaign, she's managed to blow her lead.

If Hillary cared most about making sure that a Democrat wins the election, she would stop desperately pursuing her strategy of trying to tear down Obama so that she might remain the last one standing on the rubble of the Democratic party.

Speaking as someone who likes her (she's my Senator, and she's done a great job in NY), I hope that she stops tearing the Democratic party apart, and chooses instead to retain a little dignity and pursue instead the role of Senate Majority Leader, where she can partner with President Obama to make a real difference in people's lives.

Just out of curiosity, why doesn't Obama choose Hillary as his VP?

Would she refuse?
Would she undermine his decisions?
Would she whine too much, so as to distract him?
Would she spy for the 'vested interests'?
Would Bill move his bed in?

What? :)

The democrats don't want a black in the White House! Hillary can't win, and she should have got out of this by now! Obama can and would win more votes, and has, then Hillary!She can't win the nomination, unless complete corruption on the democrats part! For her to be in this long, the democrats don't want the White House, or they don't want to put the first black in the White House! The democrats should have forced her out and pushed the Obama/Edwards ticket, a sure win!

Why has the "unbiased" (???!!!) media not discussed the Clinton scandals, during this primary?

Any continuation of the Clintons (and/or Bushes) will be very bad for the USA!

JJ, which ever way you look at it, we can at least agree with the facts of the outcome.

She lost Pennsylvania voters she had started out with, and Obama gained voters he never had to begin with. More registered republicans changed party to support Obama than Clinton.

Are these not the facts?

Somethings never change, you mean like when over 90% of African Americans vote for Obama, thats not Racist... pleaseeee get real.

With that steamroller of a 9.2% win, Hillary lands a Tennessee congressman in her super-delegate count. Poor ol' Obama only gets the Oklahoma governor (a state she won) and, by the way, he just got Edwards campaign machine (including his national chairman)...49 in all. Of course those aren't super-delegates...still, looks like rocks are starting to roll.

I like Hillary's strategy by having a paradigm shift on her victory. Everything against her(everything meaning money)and it was a huge victory. That's a valid point, but can you honestly deny that Obama has been gaining popularity as a nation as the campaign continues by the testament of the money he's raising? Not even that, it's from ordinary folks like you and I.

I hope our superdelegates will be looking into OUR interests and votes.

Please don't make this a "Bush-Gore" election again.

Somethings never change. Like ice cream being cold, Angelina Jolie being hot, and Pensylvania still having an abundance of stupid, racist, ignorant white people. Like I just said. Somethings never change in the country of America where racism like this is as traditional as apple pie. OBAMA '08

I am a conservative, and hope Hillary does make it into office. Then, when (not if) she screws up like her husband did, they will no longer be the "victim presidential family of the 90's" and be who they really are - trailer trash in the White House.

After that, all you Dems may have one of your own as president, but the Republicans will truly run the country in the House and Senate.

"The Clinton's (yes, Bill will have input in the Hillary White House) will extend the same failed policies from their first 8 years"

like peace in Ireland, working toward peace in the middle east, stopping the gencide in Bosnia, a growing economy, jobs for working people,

damn, let's no do that!Let's give the presidency to someone who's greatest votes are "Present!"

Obama and and Edwards ticket is a sure win! Anything else means we will see the republicans win big! Hillary has never had and never will have a chance to win this! She should have had Bill sit down and shut up from the beginning! Now she sounds as bad as him! It wouldn't surprise me that he is really campaigning for a new Monica!They are both why we have George Bush for eight years and why we will see McCain for eight years! There is no vice president she can pick that will help her, and Obama can only hurt his career by even thinking about it! Obama and Edwards or republicans will win real big, House, Congress, and White House! It's sad that she probably wont be shot until she wins the nomination!

Look at the writing on the wall. It clearly says that the Democrats will lose if this contest continues. Hillary won the large states. But she didn't win by any margin that put her in the lead in delegate counts. By all the arguments she makes: 35 years of experience, seasoned political staff, greater alliances to senior Democrats, winning in the big states, having the media on her side, cross over votes from the Republicans, having a former President advocate on her behalf, why is she still tailing in the delegate count? She can't win, but she can do damage to the party and position herself for the next election cycle. All she needs to do is destroy Obama in the process and the Democratic chance to secure the White House.

The question shouldn't be, "Why can't Obama close the deal?" It should be why despite the advantages that Clinton has is she in last place with no realistic chance of winning? Karl Rove and conservative support her and think McCain has a better chance to win against her. Do you really want them to choose the nominee for the Party? Do you really want a candidate that 40% of the country won't support under any circumstance to represent your Party? Do you really believe that she is the best qualified for the office when she can't win against a lesser-known candidate without damaging the Party? Do you want to return to the time when the Democrats lost the House, Senate and the Oval Office due to a Clinton? Do you really believe that threatening Super Delegates, black mailing Democratic House members, encouraging supporters to withhold financial support is the right direction for your Party?

Huma Huma states "We have Huma Abedin and her "relationship" with Hillary waiting in the wings. Should be a lot of fun."

Well maybe you should have signed off Larry Larry, as Obama has Larry Sinclair waiting in the wings and that should be tons of fun for the Republicans!

Governor of Kansas would be a fine running mate. Along with Tom Daschle, Joe Biden, Chris Dodd, Nancy Pelosi, Bill Richardson. Best not to take running mate out of legislative branch if doing a great job there. Never her. No! She doesn't meet the ethics test.

LIE: "Hillary had a 20 to 26 point lead a month or so ago, which was cut to 10."
Look at the facts: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/pa/pennsylvania_democratic_primary-240.html
as you can see for yourself, Obama was as close as 4 or 5 in the polls over a month ago. He was UP BY 2 POINTS in one poll, and tied in another, about 4 weeks ago. She never held a steady 20 point lead, though an occasional poll got that high.
Please be honest with yourselves.

How many registered Republicans responded to Karl Rove's ploy... and switched registration to Democrat to Vote For Obama? Some report up to 300,000 !

Scripted by Karl Rove. Obama won "Red States" because Republican strategy involves G.O.P. crossover voting to take out Clinton, marketing newcomer Obama.

Evidence of a covert campaign to undermine the presidential primaries is rife, so it's curious that the Democractic Party and even some within the G.O.P. have ignored the actual elephant in the room this year. That would be Karl Rove. Long accused of rigging the two previous presidential elections, this master of deceit would have us believe that he's gone off to sit in a corner and write op-eds.

Not so. According to an article in Time magazine published last November, Republicans have been organized in several states to throw their weight behind Senator Barack Obama, the Democratic rival of Hillary Clinton. At least three former fundraisers for President Bush flushed his coffers with cash early on in the race, something the deep pockets had not done for any candidate in their own party. With receipts topping $100 million in 2007, the first-term Illinois senator broke the record for contributions. It was a remarkable feat, considering that most Americans had not even heard of him before 2005.

@Trey

"everyone rejected him except for blacks and those earning less than 15K."

So Hillary only represents rich whites?

ouch

O yes, Obama, please don't dredge up anything. Please keep on leading and exemplifying the future we can be. Already Obama has ignited passion and commitment in the young. Already he has showed emotional spiritual maturity, friendliness to adversaries, generosity and warmth, naturalness in office. He has told us we need to make the change, be the change. Kinda like Gandhi. So he has already given what he was given to give.

He should be himself, be firm, be real. The dredging up of ugly he can delegate to media.

the poor,poor obama fans, they are grinding their teeth and name calling today.
must be hard swallowing that 10% loss, another big state that obama can't win.
everyone rejected him except for blacks and those earning less than 15K.

ouch

If you really believe that "just any well known political woman" will be able to tactically assist Mr. Obama in this election you are sadly misinformed and down right wrong. We "women" who have supported Hillary Clinton are not just blindly following her because she is a woman but rather because she is HILLARY CLINTON, someone we admire and know will give this country back to the American people and help everyone, not everyone minus 15 million.

No need for anyone to bring up controversies from the Clinton White House years. We have Huma Abedin and her "relationship" with Hillary waiting in the wings. Should be a lot of fun.

Jacksmith... Working Class,
You're full of B.S.There's not a snow ball in Hell chance HRC her henchmen can pull victory out of the jaws of defeat.She simply held served in PA.Her days and $$$ are numbered.She will be history soon. I hope her idiot voters can spare their beer money and go down in shame with her.

The Clinton's (yes, Bill will have input in the Hillary White House) will extend the same failed policies from their first 8 years. What was so wonderful about Bill's economic policies? Great growth? That growth was fueled by artificially *deflated* oil prices and the tech bubble. What happened to his magic economy when the tech bubble popped?

And what were Bill's wonderful foreign policy contributions? Israel and the Palestinian conflict? Somalia? The Balkans? Iraq? Did Bill once confront Iran about exporting terror to Lebanon? Did he stop Hezbollah before it grew into a force that Israel could not confront without completely destroying southern Lebanon?

And what did the Clinton Administration do to confront terror? Scold the Taliban when they blew up the Giant Buddhas? We all know how effective *that* was.

Yes, this is what the next Clinton Administration will look like. A repeat of the first failed 8 years. Missed opportunities; squandered promises. If you believe Robert Baer's "See No Evil", the Clinton's were going to prosecute a CIA operative for helping orchestrate the removal of Saddam Hussein without shedding one drop of American blood. Instead, Bill's wife had to authorize the use of American military force to end the UN sanctions that were killing the people of Iraq through starvation and treatable disease - yet another failed Clinton foreign policy.

No, Obama is probably not the best candidate for president. McCain isn't the best either. But Hillary Clinton would be an unmitigated disaster for this country. She would be the female equivalent of GW Bush.

All you have to do is review the record.

Not keeping campaign promises appears to be a strong Clinton trait.

During his two, presidential campaigns, Bill Clinton also promised job increases, wage increases, free college, steps towards some type of universial health care, programs to tackle racial & homosexual issues, and sundry. But the closest he came to keeping any of these was "Don't Ask, Don't tell", which was not only a bill already in place, but changed the policy only by disallowing the asking of the question.

But both Clintons have become masters at loudly proclaiming their lack of results is due to formidable outside circumstances, not them.

They have done this so often, and so loudly over the years, that many genuinely believe the poor Clintons really did try and were bested by powerful outside forces.

Yet one has only to look at the relentlessness, and frankly ruthlessness of their present campaigning to understand the Clintons wouldn't have been bested so easily. Surely some small step towards their goal would have been produced, but after 8 WH years, and 6 senate yrs nothing has been produced.

Hillary Clinton is a fighter all right, but not by any means for us.

Hillary''s new slogan is " Why can''t he close the deal?" That would be because Obama is not a used car salesman like her. Keep counting those imaginary delegates from Michigan and Florida. If there is one thing that America stands for, is that We are a nation of Laws, and Michigan and Florida broke the Democratic laws. The Democratic Party is not going to show the rest of the country that they will break their own rules."If we had the same system as the Republicans, I would already be the nominee...." yet another Clinton scenario for winning the primary. Do you think that you can make any other points as to whether the superdelegates should back Hillary ? Why did the media fail to chastise Ed Rendell " There are some people in this State that will not vote for a black man" but they vote for someone who channels Truman and said " we can totally obliterate Iran" By the way that wasn''t McCain who made that statement... it was Hillary. I did not say Clinton, because you may have understood it to be Bill Clinton.

McCain must love this! I bet he wants Hillary to win with all his heart! None of the republicans want to go against Obama, they think he can win! If you look they are all praising Hillary and Bill, as dirty and as negative as the two are! You have to wonder If Hillary and Bill are really republican? It would take only the dirtiest of tricks, only something the Clinton's could do, to even think Hillary can win the nomination! That or the party is as corrupt as the republicans! The country knows Hillary can't win the White House!

George C..

No one is jealous of the Clinton's fortune that they have made off the backs of their silly, broke, and obviously not too smart supporters...Actually it's most unfortunate that these individuals are to prejudice with their own agendas to see past the Clinton's deception...As a TRUE democrat, I have a problem with another democratic candiate being demonized by a deceptive, hypocritical politician who caused the Democrates 8 years of George Bush...Because that's what the Clintons did for America!! America was soooo put off with disgust of B.C. lust for young underage girls and adultery, crimminal behaviour, etc...you name it while in the White House...that it was easy for the Republicans to steal the election from Al Gore....Al's creditability was damage just by being the veep for those two idiots that I helped as well as you elect into office for two terms...and what thanks did he and Hills give the American people...an "IMPEACHMENT"... So honey, if you think it's a man I need, it certainly won't be a redneck rapist like Bill Clinton...I'd prefer a gentleman like Barak...But thanks anyway! LMAO

Hey... this saying that Hillary was ahead by 20 points in the polls 6 weeks ago in Pennsylvania is disingenuous... ONE poll (an outlier) showed that while several others indicated a range from 5 to 15 points in that time range.

"It's time for everyone to face the truth. Barack Obama has no real chance of winning the national election in November at this time. His crushing defeat in Pennsylvania makes that fact crystal clear. His best, and only real chance of winning in November is on a ticket with Hillary Clinton as her VP.
--Jacksmith."

Billary and all her well paid experts didn't think Obama had a chance against her. Got caught out not wearing her trousers at 3am. Made a bad decision.

But I agree that Obama needs to choose a popular white VP as running mate.
After all, every black person should have his actions vetted by a person who belongs to the master race.
Considering the moral standards of politicians, how about John McCain?
Perfect solution! ;)

Has anyone noticed how keen Republicain pundits have been to lavish praise onto Hillary Clinton, complimenting her political acumen, always suggesting that Clinton remains vigorously competitive and that she stands a good chance of winning the Democratic Primary?

Wonder why?

The Hillary follies are getting to be too much! Not only will the democrats not win the White House! They will lose in the House And Congress as well! Thank you Hillary! Bring this thing to an end, she is killing the democratic party! I would never vote for a president that said what she said about Iran! Talk about being worse then Bush, an I'm not an Iran fan! She has showed us what not to vote for, her! I hope Pennsylvania voters suffer the worse from this recession! We will be going into the next Great Depression! If you think four dollar a gallon gas is high, they say by 2009 we will see six dollars a gallon!

still think Obama has a chance because he's still ahead. I like that he is choosing to take the high road and I think he should stick to that. It distinguishes him from the GOP and Hillary. Hillary is very comfortable in the gutter and that scares me. Do we really want someone with no character and class in the White House...again? Hillary will get in bed with the devil himself if she feels it will win her the White House. I'm young but old enough to remember how corrupt the Clintons were and I DON'T WANT THEM BACK IN THE WHITE HOUSE. Clinton was a good President but due to his lack of judgement (Lewinsky) and other corrupt dealings his Presidency will only be remebered for the scandals. Hillary winning is like voting for Bill again. America is becoming a Monarchy with this Bush, Clinton, Bush Clinton rule. America needs something new. Obama '08.

I'd be more concerned about the current administration and their next "false flag" attack on us. It'll either be nuclear or biological or both. Has anyone else noticed how the Department of Homeland Insecurity has been manically training all of our police and fire departments with all of the "WMD" and "Foreign Animal Disease" classes lately? FYI: Something big is going down.

If the purpose of the ABC debate last week was to bring up topics that the Republicans will bring up in the fall, why were we only talking about 60s radicals, flag pins, who loves America more, and bitterness? Why weren't we talking about Monica Lewinsky, "Stand by my man," Whitewater, Stolen items from the White House, Renting out the Lincoln bedroom, and the long, long, long list of media fodder from the 90s? If the Clinton campaign is going to smear the Obama campaign for SAYING they might use it (they haven't done it yet so there isn't anything to scream about), why aren't we saying that will be somethings the Republicans use in the fall?

If Clinton is positive Republicans will hammer us with bitterness, flag pins and radicals, why aren't they worried about her being hammered with blue dresses, white house interns, and Whitewater? If the soundbites of Jeremiah Wright will fill the air, how about the sound bites of "I did not have sexual relations with that woman."

I'll take Obama's dirty laundry being aired over a Clinton rehash any day.

Listen Jack,

HRC's win in Pa. was far from crushing and moreover, it was projected months ago. It's time for you to accept the fact that she is a lightening rod for all republicans and most independents. We see right through her lies and it's important for you to understand that. I and other independents will refuse to vote for her, because she cannot be trusted. She has proved time and time again that she is a liar and that is a problem for her campaign.

Jacksmith your not following the factual trend data of these past primaries. The latest results only show a 9% margin of winning for Sen. Clinton over Sen. Obama. Although it is a win for Clinton the margin isn't substantial given that the remaining primaries are polling huge Sen. Obama percentages. If Clinton can not over come the earn delegate count, popular vote, and super delegates that would oppose the former two quantities, then what is the real end game for her campaign?

I really do not see her over taking Obama in primaries where independents get to vote. In those races where independents and republicans are allowed to vote democratic, Obama wins. There is trend data that supports this. These voters are what will be needed the most come the Nov.08 election. And it is these people who also will not choose Sen. Clinton.

Sen. Clinton has too much negative baggage to win in Nov. (stats support this as well). If the Democrats really want to win, the choice is Sen. Obama. As for a V.P. ticket, I don't think Sen. Clinton will be the choice, too much bad blood earned from this race. I do think their will be a well known woman will be selected. This will be done as a tactical move based on consistent exit polling data on white women voting for Sen. Clinton.

pudentane....where do I rent my trailer...

I rent my trailer on the same land where you rent your trailer...honey....didn't you know we were neighbors...Howdy partner...would ya like da go down der at da riva and shoot at dem der ducks!!! Oh, you mean they are black people...Oh my golly..dat's who we been shootin' at!! Oh, Lawd jest cova it up so's nobodie knows....

For all of you Clinton supporters saying that she will do better against McCain, consider this. Hillary Clinton has a 55% unfavorable opinion rating among likely voters in the general election. Barack Obama has a 49% unfavorable opinion rating. McCain has a 45% unfavorable opinion rating. For Democrats to win this election, Democrats need to go to the polls and Republicons need to stay home. Barack has a clear edge when it comes to motivating Democrats to give money and vote. Hillary Clinton motivates Republicons like nobody's business. The choice is clear ... and Clinton is the loser. Obama '08.

Clinton's win, which represented a decline of 10 pts for her from her polling in Pennsylvania (a state whose demographics (undereducated, old, rural, working class) lean heavily in her favor) means only that she has found an effective way of freezing Obama's momentum.

Her campaign touts that he "outspent her 2-to-1" but fail to follow-up that he did so because he outraised her by a similar margin; she surely would have liked to spend as much as he did, the people simply didn't give her the money she needed to.

The Democratic party has a choice to make in this election that is larger than which candidate to nominate. Clinton has proven that she can carry the working-class Democratic base that the party relies on; but that same base has lost the last two elections. Furthermore, while Obama's campaign may not be bringing up the scandals of the Clinton presidency, the Clinton campaign's actions of the past few weeks have certainly stirred the memory of the public - she is trailing in national polls now by more than she is trailing in votes. She won Pennsylvania by significantly less than the 20 point margin she had held months ago - a victory of only 10 points is an indication that her support is continuing to erode, not that she is gaining momentum.

If the Democratic party, by whatever arcane logic they employ, decides that she will be the stronger nominee despite her trailing in delegates, states, popular vote, and her continuous downslide in every state (has there been a single one where Obama hasn't closed the gap on her or increased his own?), they risk more than the very difficult battle of placing their bets on such an unpopular politician - they risk permanently damaging their relationship with the youth vote, the new voters, and the african-american population that have been energized by Obama in this election.

People laugh that the young people in America never turn up to vote even when they seem enthusiastic early on in a campaign; well, that's because we are constantly faced with the choice of a Clinton when we believed in an Obama, or a Kerry when we believed in a Dean.

If Hillary Clinton is the nominee come the end of this summer, the party can expect their huge urban african-american base, and the huge groundswelling of enthusiastic young voters that seem to give the democrats the edge in '08 to stay home in droves, and it may take more than four years to repair that precisely BECAUSE they remember the Clinton scandals and infighting and partisanship.

hey...sw2do... Here are the polls you should be looking at:

Obama is substantially behind McCain in Florida and Massachusetts and Missouri. Clinton ties McCain in Florida and Missouri and substantially beats McCain in Massachusetts.

Obama burned his bridges with the Florida people, but why cannot Obama win Massachusetts and Missouri????

When can we expect Clinton and McCain to start singing duets of Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran?

A lot of noise and smoke in PA and nothing changes. Obama is still ahead by every measure. Does anyone really think that all the big traditionally blue states that Hillary won are really going to go Republican in '08?? It looked like a stampede of Republicans switched party to vote for Obama. He's the future of the party, she's the past. America always votes for the future.

2008 ELECTION IS VERY SENSITIVE TO THE ENTIRE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THEY WISH A DEMOCRACTIC WIN.THIS CAN PREVENT ONLY BY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY LEADERSHIP AND IT'S SUPERDELIGATES.MOST AMERICANS THINK AMERICA IS IN THE WRONG DIRECTION AND OUT OF TRACK.ALL THE CRISIS FACED BY THE COUNTRY IS AN AFTEREFFECT OF THE PRESENT ADMINISTRATION.
BOTH THE DEMOCRACTIC CANDIDATES ARE ALMOST EQUALLY CAPABLE AND THAT IS THE PROBLEM FACED BY THE PARTY AND THE NATION.DUE TO THE CLOSE CONTEST PEOPLE ARE DIVIDED AND THERE IS EVERY CHANCE TO WIN THE ELECTION BY THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE.IF OBAMA IS THE PARTY NOMINEE ALL HIS NEGATIVE ASPECTS LIKE LACK OF EXPERIANCE,HIS PASTOR ISSUE,MICHELLE OBAMA'S SPEECH,HIS EARLIER CONNECTION AND VIEWS TO MALCOM Marshell ,HIS MIDDLE NAME and so many hot issues WILL BE TESTED IN A GENERAL ELECTION AND A DETAILED POST MORTOM WILL BE CONDUCTED.
IF CLINTON IS THE CANDIDATE THE AFRICAN AMERICAN WILL FEEL THAT SHE DISTROYED THE CHANCE OF AN AFRICAN AMERICAN TO BE THE PRESIDENT OF AMERICA AND MOST OF THEM WILL KEEP AWAY FROM THE GENERAL ELECTION WHICH MAKE AN EASY WIN TO THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE.HERE IS THE NEED TO INTERFERE BY THE PARTY LEADERSHIP.I TALK TO SEVERAL PEOPLE INCLUDING WHITES,AFRICAN AMERICANS,LATINOS,ASIANS AND SUGGEST THE FOLLOWING
1)ALL THE SUPERDELEGATES KEEP AWAY FROM SUPPORTING EITHER CANDIDATES.THEY MUST BE 'SUPPER'AND WISE TO TAKE A DECISION.THEY MUST WAIT TILL THE PARTY CONVENTION.
2)IF CLINTON OR OBAMA WIN THE 'MAGIC NUMBER'- 2025- OF ELECTED DELEGATES SHE/HE MAY BE THE PARTY NOMINEE .IT IS IMPOSSIBLE NOW.HERE COMES THE CHANCE OF THE PARTY LEADERSHIP AND SUPERDELEGATES TO TAKE A DECISION AND THEY MUST OBEY IT SINCE THEY DID'T GOT THE REQUIRED NUMBER OF DELEGATES.
2)CLINTON BEING THE SENIOR,MORE EXPERIANCED,HAVING MOST SUPPORT FROM THE BIG STATES WHICH ARE VERY CRUCIAL FOR A DEMOCRATIC WIN ,BE THE PRESIDENT CANDIDATE AND OBAMA BEING THE VICE PRESIDENT CANDIDATE WITH CONDITION THAT OBAMA WILL BE THE 2012 president CANDIDATE.CLINTON MUST AGREE THAT SHE WILL NOT SEEK FOR SECOND TERM.THIS WILL SOLVE THE PRESENT PROBLEM OF DIVISION AMOUNG THE PEOPLE AND WILL HAVE A CHANCES OF A WOMAN AND AN AFRICAN AMERICAN BECOME THE PRESIDENT OF AMERICA WITHIN 8 YEARS.OBAMA WHO CAN'T DENY THE FACT THAT HE IS JUNIOR AND WILL GET ENOUGH CHANCE TO PROVE HIS CAPABILITY DURING THE 4 YEARS PERIOD as Vice President
3)IF THE ABOVE DOES'T WORK,part leadership PRESENT A SUITABLE CANDIDATE -LIKE AL GORE WHO ALREADY WON THE PARTY PRIMARY PREVIOUSLY -IN THE PARTY CONVENTION WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE SUPER DELEGATES.

THIS WILL WORK AND WE WILL HAVE A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT IN THE WHITE HOUSE OTHERWISE OUR NEXT PRESIDENT WILL BE OUR WAR HERO MR JOHN MC CAIN WHO IS TOO OLD AND WILL BE LIKE THE 3rd TERM OF THE PRESENT ADMINISTRATION
sabu

It seems like Karen from PA has a real case of jealousy of the Clintons success. She writes with an invective that would make Luther envious. Any woman who beats up BC for what happened during his White house years probably needs a real man, like
Bill Clinton....

I'm not sure if a 10-point loss is considered a "crushing defeat" for Obama.... the 25-point lead she had 6 weeks ago in Pennsylvania, if she still kept it, probably would qualify as a "crushing defeat" for him.

As Obama says, and I agree, Pennsylvania is just one state (out of 50), and even after Pennsylvania he still leads in winning twice as many states and around 500,000 ahead in the popular vote.

So lets keep this in perspective.

Listen, Pennsylvania is it's own thing, it doesn't represent, say, the people in Iowa or Washington, they have a much different demographic than other states (70% of voters over 45 for example + home of the NRA). For Hillary to say "the tide is turning" is not really true. She was always looking like she was going to win Pennsylvania regardless of the results of the other primaries or caucauses.......

Everyone take a deep breath.....this is a game of delegates and popular votes, and barack still has a sizeable lead in both.

The truth of the matter is that the democrats don't want the White House! Obama is the only one that can get swing votes, black votes, minority votes. If the democratic party wanted the White House they would have told Hillary to seat down and shut up and give it up! If Hillary wins the nomination, Obama support will swing to McCain! The swing votes are the most important to beat McCain! Obama gets more of those then Hillary! With the comment Hillary made about Iran, that is not what we need for a new leader! Her and Bill make George Bush Sr.& Jr., look like saints! Lets remember she gave George Bush everything he asked for without a fight! The economy can only get worse with Hillary! Be Ready for eight more years of republican rule!

Hillary is not fighting for the American people in any way, shape or form. She is fighting for her ego, for herself. Her calculated, fabricated and fictional account of coming under sniper fire absolutely confirms she is only interested in winning the prize.

She tried to sell this sniper story to get elected, so imagine what we'll get in the future if she's elected, when the truth is locked in "classified" walls. It will be worse than Bush & Cheney.

She will go as low as needed to win, destroying her own character in the process. She wants the title, not the job. This is a trophy for her shelf, an injection for her ego, and absolutely nothing more. God help us if she gets elected.

Suddenly all the news commentaters are acting like Rush clones. Makes one wonder what the cable news owners and clones have to gain.

Can we say.....Deportment?

"Deportment"

Obama's is clearly more mature and his deportment is one of his obvious strengths over Hill the shill.

Looks like Hillary is already letting her emotions drive her away from what is reality:

That her chances of winning the Democratic nomination are sliming by the second.

I want some of what David's smoking (1:18pm)

i want obama to win and hope he will bring prosecutions against bush and his inner circle for the way theyve betrayed their office.
the current whitehouse is responsible for more deaths of innocents than saddam hussein could have committed had he stayed in power for another 20 years.
if clinton wins she would probably sell them pardons .

how can you people breathe with your heads up your ass?

The both need each other to win the general at this point. He has the black and afluent vote. She has women and working class whites.

The winner of Indiana should be on top of the ticket. There is no other way at this point.

LET ME SEE IF I HAVE THIS STRAIGHT:

HIS FATHER WAS A KENYAN, MOSLEM, BLACK- WE HAVE SEEN PICTURES OF HIS
AFRICAN "FAMILY
HIS MOTHER IS A KANSAN, ATHIEST, WHITE-

WHERE ARE THE PICTURES OF HIS KANSAN, WHITE MOTHER AND HIS WHITE
GRANDPARENTS WHO RAISED HIM.
HIS FATHER DESERTED HIS MOTHER AND HIM WHEN HE WAS VERY YOUNG AND WENT
BACK TO HIS FAMILY IN KENYA

HIS MOTHER MARRIED AN INDONESIAN MOSLEM AND TOOK HIM TO JAKARTA WHERE
HE WAS SCHOOLED IN A MOSLEM SCHOOL

HIS MOTHER RETURNED TO HAWAII AND HE WAS RAISED BY HIS WHITE KANSAN
GRANDPARENTS
HE LATER WENT TO THE BEST HIGH DOLLAR SCHOOLS, HOW?
HE LIVES IN A $1.4 MILLION DOLLAR HOUSE THAT HE ACQUIRED THROUGH A
DEAL WITH A WEALTHY FUND RAISER. HOW?

HE "WORKED" AS A CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST IN CHICAGO- HAS NEVER HELD A
PRODUCTIVE JOB. THE PRESIDENCY IS NOT A CIVIL RIGHTS POST

NOR IS IT SUBJECT TO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION SET ASIDES

HE ENTERED POLITICS AT THE STATE LEVEL AND THEN THE NATIONAL LEVEL
WHERE HE HAS MINIMAL EXPERIENCE

HE IS PROUD OF HIS "AFRICAN HERITAGE" BUT IT SEEMS THAT HIS ONLY
AFRICAN CONNECTION WAS THAT HIS AFRICAN FATHER GOT A WHITE GIRL PREGNANT AND
DESERTED HER. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT SPERM CARRIED A "CULTURAL" GENE. WHERE

IS THE PRIDE IN HIS WHITE CULTURE?
HE GOES TO A "AFROCENTRIC" CHURCH THAT HATES WHITES, HATES JEWS, AND
BLAMES AMERICA FOR ALL THE WORLDS PERCEIVED FAULTS

AND THEN REPEATEDLY COVERS UP FOR THE PASTOR AND THE CHURCH
HE CLAIMS THAT HE COULD NOT CONFRONT HIS PASTOR BUT HE WANTS US TO
BELIEVE
THAT HE CAN CONFRONT NORTH KOREA AND IRAN , RIGHT!!!

YEAH, I THINK I SEE HOW HE COULD BE A UNITER AND BRING US TOGETHER, I
THINK THE HOPE IS THAT HE HOPES NO ONE WILL PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER

"(Note: Puerto Rico has more electoral votes than Oregon.)"

Another one in the list of Democratic nomination rules emanating from bizarroworld.

Jacksmith and people who hold similar opinion are misguided. They should look at the data before airing their frustrations. Obama is still way ahead in the general Democratic race. He continues to rake in big endorsements, continues to rake in money from AVERAGE Americans, and continues to do better than Clinton in national polls when pitted against McCain.

Oh... I get it now... Obama will not use "White House Controversies" but instead they will use surrogates to do so... to swarm the blogs and comment sections with that garbage.

Why isn't anyone talking seriously about Hillary Clinton's threat of "total obliteration" to Iran? That kind of language is what starts WW3. This does not prove that she's strong, that proves that she is trigger-happy. She already proved that when she voted for the Iraq war. She's a hawk, just like McCain. Yes she's better for the economy than McCain, but so is Obama. And Obama is an extraordinary leader. We don't need one magic person in the whitehouse to solve all of our problems. We need a leader to call on us to work together to solve the country's problems.

Obama 08

After yesterday's election... Obama does NOT have an "unassailable lead in the popular vote."

And if one looks at the polls for Kentucky, West Virginia, and Puerto Rico... great numbers of people plan to vote for Hillary... and Puerto Rico has a historical record of huge turnouts (up to 90%) for elections. (Note: Puerto Rico has more electoral votes than Oregon.)

What a mess. What a mess. I am an Obama supporter but he can't win the general unless he starts tapping into the women and working class base. That's just the fact.

Indiana will be pivital for both. The winner will take the nomination.

Where are the McDougals? They went to prison for Mrs. Clinton. Where are the employees of her travel office? Where are all the people in the White House who hated her when she was First Lady? She is corrupt, evil and along with her husband, will bring disgrace to the office of President. Senator Obama has tried to be the good guy this campaign, but like everyone else who has dealt with the Clintons they drag you down. They will drag this country down too!

15% is the number being circulated as the percentage of the electorate that will not vote for a black candidate. Personally, I would be happy if anyone who wont vote for a candidate because the candidate belongs to a particular race, gender or ethnic group switch to the other party. If they would like to switch citizenship to another country, they would have my blessings too. The future of our country is too precious to be compromised for self interest.

I wonder where Keren rents her trailer?

Obama's aides don't have to bring up Hillary's checkered past--you guys are doing it for them! (It's like the Pastorgate and Bittergate attacks on Obama: The story about the story draws attention to a topic that may or may not be worthy of legitimate discussion.)

Dear JackSmith,
8.6 percentage points is far from "crushing" and how is it that Obama has "no real chance" of winning in November when he's ahead of Clinton in all the polls when faced with McCain? You may love Clinton, but it is SHE who will likely not win against McCain in November. I admire your dedication to her, but it's time to be realistic.

mohamed, Sen. Clinton has been busy hauling approximately $380 million in earmark pork back home. Sen. McCain's comparable figure is zero. I suppose his Arizona constituents should really be angry about his not playing that game.

You do the math
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/29/delegate.counter/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

Even if the Obama campaign doesn't do as well as we expect, they will get to 2025 delegates with only 50% of superdelegates.

Obviously Billary know this. So, the only possible strategy they are running is to weaken our campaign and fragment the party so that their supporters will never vote Obama in the general.

Billary want McCain to win because they have already lost the primary. It's that simple.

Maureen Dowd and others have already said this

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/26/opinion/26dowd.html?hp

But today's PA results make this much clearer.

So, the supers better show some cojones and finish this off right now, otherwise, come June and Obama will be the nominee but greatly weakened by the Billary attack machine, and consequently in danger of losing to McCain in the general.

In my opinion, the Catch22 is this: if the supers intervene now , they will alienate the HRC supporters who've fallen for the Clinton narrative that "I will fight on even though they want me to stop"

If they don't intervene now, she will destroy the democrats chances of winning in November.

Hillary did not seem somber last night - she seemed defeated even in her victory. There's so little time left for her - and so many more lies to propagate! Her oversized ego, along with Bill's supersized ego, and Chelsea's abundantly developing ego will keep her in the race long after she should step aside. I'm no Obama fan either, but I've had enough of the Clinton's and their lies.

Anyone who uses 'crushing defeat' or any other such magnanimous phrasing to describe Hillary pulling out a nine point win in Pa. after being up 20 not long ago is hereby prohibited from voting.

On the other hand, no matter what you think of her, Hillary deserves some grudging respect for her resilience.

If he is so unelectable than the alternative is to nominate a candidate that could not even beat this unelectable candidate? Give me a break! If you want to know who is going to win - look at the money. John McCain is raising hardly any scratch folks. Once Obama gets the nomination, whenever that eventuality occurs, he is going to crush McCain. Absolutely crush him.

TO MR KENNEDY,ALL SENATORS,REPS,WHITEHOUSE,THATS YOU BUSH,AG

FROM : ALL AMERICANS

SIR, PLEASE DO ME A FAVOR, HOW ABOUT TELL ALL IN THE MEDIA AND NEWS, THAT LOOK AT WHAT ONE AMERICANS SAY, THAT WOULD STOP ALL BLEEDING IN THIS MORTGAGE MESS..

IT IS SIMPLE AS IT GETS...

HELP!!!

PEOPLE - - BEGIN TO RESEARCH and PROBE THIS ! ! ! !

SPECIAL "CLOSED SESSION" OF U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Word has begun leaking from last nights special,
Closed-door session of the United States House of Representatives.
Not only did members discuss new surveillance provisions as was the publicly stated
Reason for the closed door session, they also discussed :

1. The Imminent Collapse of the U.S. economy to occur by September 2008
2. The imminent collapse of US federal government finances by February 2009
3. The possibility of Civil War inside the USA as a result of the collapse
4. Advance round-ups of "insurgent U.S. citizens" likely to move against the Government
5. The Detention of those rounded-up at "REX 84" camps constructed throughout the USA,
6. The possibility of retaliation against members of Congress for the collapses
7. The Location of "safe facilities" for members of Congress and their families
To reside during expected massive civil unrest
8. The necessary and unavoidable merger of the United States with Canada
(for its natural resources) and with Mexico (for its cheap labor pool)
9. The issuance of a new currency - THE AMERO -
For all three nations as the proposed solution to the coming economic armageddon.

Members of Congress Have Been FORBIDDEN to reveal what was discussed
Several are so furious and concerned about the future of the country,
they have begun leaking info.
US Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson
Has Already Received His PERSONAL BAIL-OUT

Under Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson's .. Former leadership at
Goldman Sachs, the company has been instrumental to its penetration of Western
capital and other markets. - - Henry Paulson was vastly effective in Communist
China's .. Interests and enabling their access to Western economic assistance
and high technology

In late January 2006, Goldman Sachs purchased a stake in the Industrial and
Commercial Bank of China (ICBC), China's biggest bank, for $2.58 billion
Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson''''s .. Personal stake .. In this transaction
was $25 million

A PERSONAL BAIL OUT for : Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and His
Criminal Friends

(Mar 27, 2008 (ruters.com) BBC) ... White House Resists Pleas for .. Mortgage Bailout
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - As clamor rises for federal help for homeowners
who face losing their homes .. U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson .. Seems
to be digging in heels against the effort.

U.S. Treasury Secretary Paulson sounded a tougher note than ever against any
possibility of bailout for individual mortgage holders, singling out the growing number
going "under water" as their loans exceed the diminishing value of their properties.

please this is a simple thing to fix, why are you bending over for all of the wallstreet scum.
you have the right to do what this paulson/ben did for wallstreet,saying they had to to save america. so you can say the same thing, but this time you would be saveing america, and not wallstreet.
you must come out and stop the forcloseing of all these millions of homes, now,
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS MANDATE THAT ALL MORTGAGES THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN OUT FROM 2000 TO 2007 BY ALL AMERICANS TO BE RE-FI A.S.A.P. NO EXCEPTIONS,

NO MATTER WHAT THE CREDIT IS, THEY WILL RE-FI EVERYONE AT JUST OVER PRIME, AND AT A RATE OF 40% OF WHAT IS OWED ON THE PROPERTY( PERSONAL HOMES ONLY)!!
WHY, BECAUSE MOST HOST ARE SELLING AT FORCLOSER FOR 20 TO 30 CENTS ON THE DOLLAR, SO AS TO WHAT PAULSON SAID TO BEARSTEARN 2 DOLLARS IS BETTER THAN NO DOLLARS SO TAKE THE DEAL..NOW REMEMBER ALL OF YOU, IF THIS COMPANY IN 6 MONTHS LOST 98% OF THEIR VALUE FROM 700 BILLION TO WHAT IS IT NOW. AND FOR SOMEONE TO COME IN AND BUY IT FOR NOTHING, WHAT IS THE REAL VALUE OF ALL THESE HOMES???NOBODY KNOWS, SO WHY NOT JUST START OVER??? AND STOP THE BLEEDING FOR ALL AMERICANS.

FOR-AMERICA@HOTMAIL.COM
DAVID A BELANGER
FOR COMMON SENSE THIS IS SO EASY TO FIX DONT MAKE IT HARDER THAN IT IS PEOPLE.

AND LOOK AT THIS MORNINGS NEWS, THE GREAT POTATOHEAD PAULSON,AND BEN ARE IN TALKS WITH ANOTHER WALLSTREET FIRM GOING DOWN. MERRILL LYNCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHAT MORE BAILOUTS FOR WALLSTREET COMING.

Well, I'm certainly happy that there is a vast left wing conspiracy to keep silent about Hillary's perception of a vast right wing conspiracy.

The editor, Margaret Sullivan of the Buffalo News, asked Clinton about a promise she had made to upstate New York residents during her 2000 Senate campaign to bring 200,000 jobs to the region.

Well, you know, Margaret, when I was campaigning for the Senate in 2000, I had every hope that Al Gore would be the president, and that we would build on the economic successes of the '90s."

When it is pointed out that MRS Clinton reneged on her campaign promises her reason for not delivering was because she was wrong on who would be president; that is an acceptable reason? A reason closer to the truth is that she has been campaigning for president since her election to the senate and just hasn't had the time to look out for anyone but herself.

Well, I'm certainly happy that there is a vast left wing conspiracy to keep silent about Hillary's perception of a vast right wing conspiracy.

Bull S*&() Hillary is toast and has NO way to win the nomination or the general!! Her days are NUMBERED and the Clintonians White house past will be used against her polarizing butt and this will definitely cause the dems to loose the general!!! Her angry white 50+ females and racist rural white men with guns and johnnie walker had better wake up and smell the coffee if they wish to remain living on that land they currently own with the trailer parked on it....If Hillary is elected, the Republicans will take that land and trailer from them!!! Get real....Hillary is damaging the party and every news pundit with the exception of racist Joe Scarbourough and angry old white Pat Buchanan....and we all know why----because the republicans are waiting anxiously with sweating hands to run against the Clintons...It will be PAY BACK TIMES!!!! hahahaha LMAO...and mind you if the DNC steals the election of Obama, democrat turnout will be terribly low....You can down play the black voters, new voters, educated voters, white male and jewish voters if you want to but that is a bigger part of the democratics base than a bunch of frustrated angry a** old white women and racist gun toting bitter white rural men!!! It will be written in every news paper how the dumb a** Democratic Party lost an election that they should have won...meanwhile at the ranch Hills will be sipping on her lattess....laughing with Bill and discussing what rich oil country they are going to move to to add to their 111 million dollars.....

Does anyone really believe that if Obama goes into June with an unassailable lead in the popular vote and in pledged delegates that the superdelegates will overrule the will of the people and select Clinton? This is really delusional behaviour. Such an action would virtually guarantee another 8 years of Republican rule.

Why is Hillary getting cozy with Fox's neocon propaganda machine and Rush Limbaugh? We all know she has credibility problems. Why suddenly is she hanging out with that crowd of liars? Perhaps Hannity, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, and Clinton have a special relationship.

IT'S TIME AMERICA:

It's time for everyone to face the truth. Barack Obama has no real chance of winning the national election in November at this time. His crushing defeat in Pennsylvania makes that fact crystal clear. His best, and only real chance of winning in November is on a ticket with Hillary Clinton as her VP.

Hillary Clinton seemed almost somber at her victory speech. As if part of her was hoping Obama could have defeated her. And proved he had some chance of winning against the republican attack machine, and their unlimited money, and resources. In all honesty. I felt some of that too.

But it is absolutely essential that the democrats take back the Whitehouse in November. America, and the American people are in a very desperate condition now. And the whole World has been doing all that they can to help keep us propped up.

Hillary Clinton say's that the heat, and decisions in the Whitehouse are much tougher than the ones on the campaign trail. But I think Mr. Obama faces a test of whether he has what it takes to be a commander and chief by facing the difficult facts, and the truth before him. And by doing what is best for the American people by dropping out of the race, and offering his whole hearted assistance to Hillary Clinton to help her take back the Whitehouse for the American people, and the World.

Mr. Obama is a great speaker. And I am confident he can explain to the American people the need, and wisdom of such a personal sacrifice for them. It should be clear to everyone by now that Hillary Clinton is fighting her heart out for the American people. She has known for a long time that Mr. Obama can not win this November. You have to remember that the Clinton's have won the Whitehouse twice before. They know what it takes.

If Mr. Obama fails his test of commander and chief we can only hope that Hillary Clinton can continue her heroic fight for the American people. And that she prevails. She will need all the continual support and help we can give her. She may fight like a superhuman. But she is only human.

Sincerely

Jacksmith... Working Class :-)