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Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama had some tough words for his former pastor in Winston-Salem, N.C., a week before the state's May 6 primary. (Associated Press)

Updated 4:25 p.m.
By Peter Slevin
WINSTON-SALEM, N.C. -- Sen. Barack Obama today strongly criticized the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, his former pastor, saying that Wright's comments about the United States in recent days have been "destructive" and "outrageous."

Using his sharpest language yet to describe a series of Wright performances that he said left him angry and sad, Obama accused Wright of exploiting racial divisions at the same time the Illinois senator is aiming to bring the nation together.

"When I say I find these comments appalling, I mean it," Obama told reporters in firm and somber tones. "It contradicts everything that I'm about and who I am. And anybody who has worked with me, who knows my life, who has read my books, who has seen what this campaign is about I think will understand that it is completely opposed to what I stand for and where I want to take this country."

VIDEO | Sen. Barack Obama is offering his strongest denouncement of the comments made by his former pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Obama says he is outraged by Wright's comments and saddened by the spectacle. (AP Video)
Obama, calling reporters together for the second time in 24 hours to address an issue that threatens to weaken his campaign, said he decided to speak out after watching videotape of Wright's theatrical performance on Monday at the National Press Club, where he attacked the U.S. government and Obama alike. Wright "caricatured himself," Obama said. "I have spent my entire adult life trying to bridge the gap between different kinds of people. That's in my DNA, trying to promote mutual understanding," Obama said. "To insist that we all share common hopes and common dreams as Americans and as human beings. That's who I am. That's what I believe. That's what this campaign has been about." "Yesterday, we saw a very different vision of America," Obama went on. "I am outraged by the comments that were made and saddened over the spectacle that we saw yesterday."

Obama said he had not spoken in several weeks with Wright, who retired earlier this year as pastor of Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ and a mainstream congregation thousands strong. Wright performed Obama's marriage, baptized his two daughters and inspired the title of his latest book, "The Audacity of Hope."

"There has been great damage," Obama said. "I do not see the relationship being the same after this."

Wright's strongly worded sermons were little known in political circles before Obama ran for president. He first drew attention on the day in February 2007 when Obama announced his candidacy because the candidate disinvited him from delivering a benediction, saying later that he did not want Wright to suffer the inevitable media attention.

The minister became a serious problem only after Obama had become the Democratic front-runner. In the weeks before the April 22 Pennsylvania primary, news outlets broadcast excerpts from fiery Wright sermons that critics charged were anti-American and racist.

Obama said he had not heard the most dramatic sermons. He denounced some of Wright's most inflammatory remarks and followed up with an ambitious speech on race relations in Philadelphia, where he also sought to put Wright's views and comments in perspective. Obama said he was giving Wright, who had prayed with him and inspired him, the benefit of the doubt.

In the weeks that followed, Wright said little. But he surfaced very publicly late last week, explaining himself in a lengthy PBS interview and declaiming boldly in a NAACP speech in Detroit on Sunday and a press conference at the National Press Club on Monday morning.

Obama told reporters after a Winston-Salem rally that he was troubled by many aspects of Wright's recent performances, including his decision "to command the stage for three or four consecutive days in the midst of this major debate" about such issues as health care, education, energy, economic policy and the war on terrorism.

"After seeing Rev. Wright's performance, I felt there was a complete disregard for what the American people are going through and the need for them to rally together to solve these problems," Obama said. "It now is the time for us not to get distracted."

"What mattered to him," Obama said, "was him commanding center stage."

Obama, who met Wright almost 20 years ago and joined Trinity United in 1992, disputed assertions that Wright was his "spiritual mentor." He described Wright as his pastor and a man "who provided valuable contributions to our family." He said the Wright who spoke to the press club "is not the person I knew for 20 years."

"When he states and then amplifies such ridiculous propositions as the U.S. government somehow being involved in AIDS; when he suggests Minister Farrakhan somehow represents one of the greatest voices of the 20th and 21st centuries; when he equates the United States's wartime efforts with terrorism; there are no excuses. They offend me. They rightly offend all Americans."

He also said Wright's comments "were not only divisive and destructive, but I believe they also end up giving comfort to those who prey on hate, and I believe they do not portray accurately the perspective of the black church."

Obama said he was "particularly angered" by Wright's allegation that the candidate was engaging in political posturing when he denounced the minister's earlier remarks.

"If Rev. Wright considers that political posturing, then he doesn't know me very well," Obama said. "Based on his comments yesterday, well, I may not know him as well as I thought, either."

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Posted by: MUGAMBO | May 3, 2008 11:05 PM

It doesn't matter how you slice it up, carve it, dice it, scattered, smothered, stirred, whipped, played back for 4 years or more, whatever, having Pastor Wright as your mentor and hero says you have a severe character flaw.

Barack Obama basically proved this himself after he threw Pastor Wright under the bus, backed-up, then ran him over thrice more the other day. And for what? Oh yeah, something about "same old politics" comes to mind. What a joke.

Why are we wasting our precious time with this inadequate candidate? Let's talk about having a Universal Healthcare program instead. Let's erase the health insurance industry(and make sure the working class insurance people get a different job of course). Let's erase the "pre-existing condition" limitation, and the cut-throat, profit-from-the-dying tactics of our broken Healthcare system.

Barack's promises may appeal to the ear, but where are the documented details of this great shaboozle of a firing-squad method he intends to use to erase our American government? Scary.

No thanks Obama

Posted by: Caught On Tape | May 3, 2008 2:05 AM

SO, let me get this straight.

Obama won't engage in a debate with Clinton under any circumstances because they tend to take focus off of the issues and only address non-essential topics like his prior associations.

But, Obama calling together the press for a second time to rehash this issue about Wright is not doing exactly what he claims Clinton is doing to him?

The only person not letting the Wright issue die is Obama. He can't explain it away - there are no words that can explain his staying a part of this anti-American clergy.

Be sure to tell us when he calls a press conference that hasn't got anything to do with Wright or is aimed at tearing McCain or Clinton a new butt.

Hopefully, the press will start trying to get him to actually say what he is going to do to make this such a wonderful country. So far, I've got:
a) optional healthcare coverage [already exists]
b) pulling the troops out of Iraq [if his military agrees]
c) raising social security taxes on the middleclass [to pay off unrelated government debt]
d) raising capital gains taxes on the investors [pay off more unrelated government debt]
e) creating new jobs [where? doing what? paid for by whom?]
f) willing to meet with and become the patsy of any terrorist group or country in order to promote peace
That about covers it or have I missed something? Sounds to me like more of the same old politics

Posted by: glosski | May 2, 2008 10:30 PM

Obama is a cunning and terrifyingly dangerous politician.

Barack says he won't throw his pastor under the bus like he did his grandmother, and then he did.

Barack says he's against the war but NEVER ACTUALLY VOTED AGAINST IT because he wasn't in office then. And then he VOTED YES TO FUND THE WAR.

Barack says he won't wear "that pin" on his clothing but then he is trying to say that he stands for it (when really he wants to switch it to something else).

Barack says he wants to be the #1 patriot in America and yet when the National Anthem is played, he doesn't put his hand on his heart(as if the song doesn't apply to him) - must be because it is the song of the "old ways" of America(which he wishes to destroy), the ways that hundreds of thousands have died for along the way.

Barack boils up some cursing and completely politically-reactive racial speech, tries to make us all feel deficient, says Don Imus should be burned at the stake and flushed in a toilet, and then turns around and says "Race is not a problem in America"(because that would trick people into thinking he doesn't hate).

Barack says he's a uniter but then devotes 20 years of his life to his "Mentor" and "Role Model" that has burned the very hate of America into his heart - see this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI77cU3jsFs ( also see more great stuff at: thatsmeontheleft.blogspot.com )

Barack says all people should count and "yes we can" but then he purposely, and cold-bloodedly stone-walls any chance of allowing 2+ MILLION voters in Florida and Michigan have their vote count.

Barack says he's about "helping the working class live better lives" and then he turns around and slanders us not only by calling us "bitter" and "clinging to guns and religion", but also forgoes offering a Universal Healthcare Plan(which is a core democratic value) - this is only so he can play both sides of the poor/rich fence, but in the end he leans more towards the former(with his ridiculous idea to raise capital gains taxes).

Barack says he has all these ideas for how he's going to throw our government out of their offices onto the street but there's no detailed information available for people to weigh his intentions with common sense.

Everything is about timing for Mr. Barack Obama, he plays "old style" politics better than a symphonic orchestra, he'll switch from one major idea and then to the reverse like a windsock in an open field.

How long will it be before Barack throws the "American People"(as if we're somebody else) under the bus, and then back up for another go.

Think long and hard, this man is playing the emotion card on America, and he intends to rip our heart out with it to pay back for his Pastor's pain of yesteryear.

If you vote for Barack Obama, you will experience change alright, and it will hurt, badly. If you vote for Barack Obama, you are voting for the Apocalypse of America.

Posted by: The Stark Truth | May 2, 2008 9:47 PM

The Rev Wright is entitled to his words- I don't care what his thoughts or beliefsare, I'M NOT VOTING FOR WRIGHT, I AM gonna vote for Obama.
I changed my party last Tuesday- I see where the GOP has gone- this IS NOT the party of Lincoln nor Eisenhower- IT IS THE PARTY OF NIXON AND GW BUSH, DICK CHENEY & CAP WEINBERGER. With RR's economics and Nixons character- this administration is absolute dog crap.And where did they take us? to the cleaners. I've had it with them, and I don't think HC would make a good President- she would be functional, but we have a chance to have a really outstanding, great President like we haven't had since Teddy Roosevelt.

Posted by: ajsmith | May 2, 2008 2:24 AM

This is typical of Washington Post. The paper has a habit posting false headlines with no relationship to the story...this is pre-meditate. Folks ought not to believe stuff published the Post.

Posted by: K1231 | May 2, 2008 2:17 AM

What exactly are Wright's recent comments that Obama finds appalling?

Posted by: Kevin1231 | May 2, 2008 2:14 AM

You can see this in New Orleans before Katrina. The only city that I have been in where cars on blocks stayed on the Interstate for months, and were never moved. A third world city, where you want to visit once but can't wait to get out of.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 3:11 PM

Yep, in my opinion, we are the way down.

I think that too many parents said: "my kids will not have to go through what I did" to the detriment of the kids. They were indulged, till it got to the point where they not only expect to start at the top, you can't even discipline them anymore.

I'm sort of glad that I won't be around to see the USA as a third world country, but it is fast coming.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 3:06 PM


"We didn't know what pot was, everyone was patriotic" etc

and

"if teen-agers and young 20s had to go through what we did in the "great depression" and the war, they would be rioting in the streets!! "

Most people today haven't "had to hoe corn" as it were. I didn't have a cola drink until the age of 13. 50 years ago people worked hard, sacrificed, were patriotic, and pulled together, and were proud of doing a good job. These traits built a great country and better times for all, but unfortunately the ensuing indulgance has led to people being complacent and in way too many cases disrespectful. Today many brag about what they "got away with" on the job. I can't even be sure I get a good hamburger anymore. Sometimes they thank me when I purchase something.

What's the answer? Sorry, but in my opinion the standard of living will gradually go down until we are as "hungry" as the less fortunate nations. That's assuming the Chinese, Arabs, and others don't decide to cash in their dollar holdings all at once, in which case the process will not be gradual.

Posted by: Billw | May 1, 2008 2:53 PM

From today's news:

DNC chairman under Bill Clinton: Unite behind Obama

By NEDRA PICKLER - 1 hour ago

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A leader of the Democratic Party under Bill Clinton switched his allegiance to Barack Obama on Thursday and urged fellow Democrats to end the bruising nomination fight.

"This has got to come to an end," former Democratic National Committee Chairman Joe Andrew told reporters in his hometown of Indianapolis just days before Tuesday's crucial state primary. He said he planned to call all the other superdelegates he knows and encourage them to back Obama.

Bill Clinton appointed Andrew chairman of the DNC in 1999, and he led the party through the disputed 2000 presidential race before stepping down in 2001. Andrew endorsed Hillary Rodham Clinton last year on the day she declared her candidacy for the White House."

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 2:25 PM

Billw, I sound like the old: "we walked to school 5 miles in the snow"!" Nope, it hardly ever snowed here.

BUT, if teen-agers and young 20s had to go through what we did in the "great depression" and the war, they would be rioting in the streets!! I'm serious.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:54 PM

"America will never be the great country is was 50 or so years ago."

When I graduated from high school. The last of the innocents. We didn't know what pot was, everyone was patriotic, very few boys had cars, very little TV ( I didn't see on till I was 17), we were coming off the big war where everyone was used to rationing, and everyone pulled together.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:50 PM

Billw, you and I are closer than I thought.

I fully agree.

Personally, I think Thompson was the best candidate. But who knows??)

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:47 PM

"A good third party canditate would be a shoo in. Just who would that be, though?"

Good question. Maybe Newt, Liberman. Maybe Thompson, had he stuck with it and been more forceful in his views. Problem is the country is in such a mess, a man in his "right senses" likely wouldn't want to inherit the problems. America will never be the great country is was 50 or so years ago. Too many politicians have sold it out for personal gain, and too many company leaders have done the same by going overseas to have their products made. Also
Abraham Lincoln's true statement "to win the election, impress the ignorant" has taken it's toll. Too bad.


Posted by: Billw | May 1, 2008 1:38 PM

Billw, you are so right there. I am not a fan of any of them. I just live close to the original Clinton hang-out and am close to some that know them, and I could not vote for him or her.

A good third party canditate would be a shoo in. Just who would that be, though?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:29 PM

"In your opinion only."

Birds of a feather stick together.

Posted by: Billw | May 1, 2008 1:28 PM

"Put Hillary's name where you have Obamas and Bill Clinton where you have Wright, and it works both ways. She stayed with Bill Cinton since 1975, a lot longer than the 20 years in the Wright church."

Doesn't matter anyway, McCain will be President. I'd just like to have seen a more level playing field between Clinton and Obama.

Posted by: Billw | May 1, 2008 1:26 PM

"His true intent is therefore very questionable."


In your opinion only. Do not attempt to speak for the rest of us.
You know what the Clintons are, so why anyone would support them is beyond me. Yep, the morals of the US went away about the 60s.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:26 PM

Obama showed his true alegiance to Wright for 20 years, which means he approved of Wrights views. He now "denounces" him when he is forced to. His true intent is therefore very questionable.

Posted by: Billw | May 1, 2008 1:23 PM

News from 1 hour ago:


"Obama endorsed by an Indiana super delegate Joe Andrew

Joe Andrew, who formerly had endorsed Hillary Clinton, switches to Obama, saying the Illinois senator has a willingness to do 'the right thing.'

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:21 PM

And Obama was not married to Rev. Wright.
Hmmm??

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:16 PM

"Had Obamas close relationship with shady characters and the hate-filled racist Wright been known at the outset, he would have been out of the race months ago."

Put Hillary's name where you have Obamas and Bill Clinton where you have Wright, and it works both ways. She stayed with Bill Cinton since 1975, a lot longer than the 20 years in the Wright church.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:15 PM


OBAMA AND HIS CAKE

Obama's figured that black democrats would support him out of racial loyalty, and a lot of whites would do the same in order to not be accused of being racial. This put him ahead, but has now backfired due to his close association to reverend Wright and Wright's character being exposed. Can't have your cake and eat it too. Regarding the media, they went with the "Obama phenomena" as it made sensational news, upped their viewer ratings, and made them money. This created bias toward Obama, got him free advertising of the best kind, and put him ahead. Now the hot news getting viewer attention is Wright, so the media has gone with him and has damaged Obama, likely beyond repair. Again you can't have your cake and eat it too. Had Obamas close relationship with shady characters and the hate-filled racist Wright been known at the outset, he would have been out of the race months ago.

Posted by: Billw | May 1, 2008 1:10 PM

JakeD, your rabid support of the Clintons, no matter what, is showing your personality.
Please get some help.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 12:40 PM

""RECORDS SET
The Clintons

- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court""

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 12:34 PM

"P.S. re: Clinton(s) trial -- World Net Daily is not a reliable source -- BILL Clinton's motion to dismiss was granted, so the trial is proceeding against her only."

So?? Your proof please, not according to the Los Angeles Superior Court.

The proof against Hillary Clinton is there and the California Supreme Court upheld re-opening the case because of that. Sorry.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 12:29 PM

dems rule:

How many of those new registrations were people who are going to vote for McCain in November? Have you considered that Operation CHAOS is artificially inflating the numbers?

delegate math man:

Keep in mind those numbers go up if Florida and/or Michigan are counted. Also, nothing prevents the super delegates "announced" for Barack HUSSEIN Obama to retract tomorrow, if they wanted to, and all announce for Hillary DIANE Clinton.

P.S. re: Clinton(s) trial -- World Net Daily is not a reliable source -- BILL Clinton's motion to dismiss was granted, so the trial is proceeding against her only.

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 11:21 AM

With Bush HITTING NEW PUPLIC OPINION LOWS

and DEMS at HIGHEST REGISTRATION NUMBER AND PERCENTAGE Since the ice age when John McCain was born

MARCH STATISTICS
43% Dem
32% GOP

and WE DON"T EVEN HAVE THE NEW VOTERS COUNTED

GO OBAMA GO DEMS

Posted by: dems rule | April 30, 2008 8:13 PM

Reverse Countdown TO VICTORY
BiG Day for SUPerS

293 to 2024 Delegates to Victory OBAMA -2
429 to 2024 Delegates Clinton -3
________________________________
408 Elected Delegates left in ten contests
289 Supers Uncomitted Remaining
------------------------------------
697 Delegates Unpledged / Uncomitted Remaining

Go OBAMA

Posted by: delegate math | April 30, 2008 8:07 PM

Look, Wright will not fight back, at least not materially.
This whole thing looks too much like a set up: Wright made bad comments. Obama originally tried to denounce only his comments but not him as a person. This proved to be not enough, and Obama must denounce the person. But without any new update, it would be strange or damaging for Obama to change his stance. Therefore, Wright cooperated by giving one more bad speech, an opportunity Obama can seize to change his stance.
As much as it sounds like a conspiracy theory, this type of game has been played thousands of years ago in China. Good players don't even need to plan for it - they could do it tacitly.
I would admit my suspicion is wrong if Wright fights back forcefully (not just verbally, which I won't be surprised if he does, but forcefully with potentially damaging information, as he should have plenty over so many years). Somehow, though, I don't believe this will happen. It's just a setup, old fashioned, plain and boring. Will people get fooled? I don't know. But certainly not me...

Posted by: lm | April 30, 2008 6:09 PM

"Jimmy Carter Endorses Obama ( Sort of)

MAKE of this what you will:

Former President of the United States, Jimmy Carter has hinted that he might cast his vote for Senator Barack Obama to aid his emergence as the candidate for the Democrats in America's bid to elect a new President.""

Hint, hint

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 5:53 PM

"also, James EARL Carter did not endorse Barack HUSSEIN Obama -- he is, officially, uncommitted."

Officially, He praised Obama and practically downed Clinton with his remarks. What more do you want?? Give it up, Hillary Clinton will not be the nominee.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 5:47 PM

WND Exclusive ELECTION 2008
Clintons to face fraud trial
Judge setting date, testimony to include ex-president, senator


© 2008 WorldNetDaily


While Hillary Clinton battles Barack Obama on the campaign trail, a judge in Los Angeles is quietly preparing to set a trial date in a $17 million fraud suit that aims to expose an alleged culture of widespread corruption by the Clintons and the Democratic Party.

At the conclusion of a hearing tomorrow morning before California Superior Court Judge Aurelio N. Munoz, lawyers for Hollywood mogul Peter F. Paul will begin seeking sworn testimony from all three Clintons - Bill, Hillary and Chelsea - along with top Democratic Party leaders...

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 5:43 PM

That should be case number BC304174

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 5:40 PM

The facts are hard to ignore, aren't they.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 5:33 PM

"As someone already pointed out, William JEFFERSON Clinton is not on trial --

No, Bill and Hillary Clinton are on trial:

Go to www.lasuperiorcourt.org. Look under civil column, click on civil summaries, search under case number BC30417

Hmmm. Looks like it say William Jefferson Clinton and Hillary Rodham Clinton to me. Read it and weep:


Case Summary


Please make a note of the Case Number.


Case Number: BC304174
PETER F PAUL VS WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON

Filing Date: 10/14/2003
Case Type: Fraud (no contract) (General Jurisdiction)
Status: Pending

Future Hearings

05/13/2008 at 08:37 am in department 47 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
OSC RE: CONTEMPT

08/08/2008 at 08:31 am in department 47 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Further Status Conference

Documents Filed | Proceeding Information

Parties

CLINTON HILLARY RODHAM - Defendant/Respondent

CLINTON WILLIAM JEFFERSON - Defendant/Respondent

D. COLETTE WILSON ATTORNEY AT LAW - Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

DOYEN MICHAEL R. - Attorney for Defendant/Respondent

HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON FOR U.S. SENATE - Defendant/Respondent

KREEP GARY G. - Former Attorney for Pltf/Petn

LEVIN JAMES - Defendant/Respondent

MACHTINGER LEONARD A. - Attorney for Defendant/Respondent

NORMAN JAN B. - Associated Counsel

NORRIS STERLING E. ESQ. - Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

PAUL PETER F. - Plaintiff/Petitioner

ROSEN DAVID - Defendant/Respondent

SMITH GARY - Defendant/Respondent

TONKEN AARON - Defendant/Respondent

WILLAMS & CONNOLLY - Attorney for Defendant/Respondent

Google "clinton fraud trial" some old, some new. New evidence lead to trial being re-newed. Sorry.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 5:32 PM

show = shoe

Posted by: JakeD | April 30, 2008 5:01 PM

James (I assume NOT Carter):

Just wait until the other show drops -- hopefully, Rev. Wright fires back and tells us something really juicy about "The One" he's counseled, in private, for lo' these many, many years.

Posted by: JakeD | April 30, 2008 5:00 PM

As someone already pointed out, William JEFFERSON Clinton is not on trial -- also, James EARL Carter did not endorse Barack HUSSEIN Obama -- he is, officially, uncommitted.

Posted by: JakeD | April 30, 2008 4:54 PM

Anonymous said: From the Houston Chronicle:
Rev. Jeremiah Wright - Hillary Supporter?

Well, could you blame him. He was thrown under the bus by Obama for the sake of Obama's political ambitions. Wright knows the nature of their relationship; he knows that Obama is quite familiar his preaching style and his opinions. He is probably very disappointed in Obama for not standing up and admitting that he knew what his church was about, and he stayed there because he agreed with Wright. Instead, Obama attacks his "uncle" in an attempt to fool the American public before the upcoming primaries. Heck, if someone did that to me, I'd cross over and support the more admirable opponent, too.

Posted by: James | April 30, 2008 2:51 PM

Hillary and Bill Clinton on trial for fraud in Los Angeles, civil court case #BC304174


Jimmy Carter endorses Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 2:48 PM

From the Houston Chronicle:


Rev. Jeremiah Wright - Hillary Supporter?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 2:45 PM

In response to Sycamore, VA....it took Hillary 61 years to find her voice...what's the problem? 20 vs 61??????

Posted by: AlesterP | April 30, 2008 2:42 PM

In response to Sycamore, VA....it took Hillary 61 years to find her voice...what the problem?

Posted by: AlesterP | April 30, 2008 2:42 PM

Hmmmm. From the news:

Reverend Wright spoke at the National Press club recently in order to defend his record and apparently the African American church. Barack Obama has had a hard time since his pastor has come into the limelight due to the explosive nature of some of the preachers comments. Regardless as to the appropriateness of what Wright said and how he said it, Barack's bid for the presidency has been hampered by his statements. Strangely, the platform from which the pastor spoke on yesterday was made available to him by a CLINTON SUPPORTER."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 2:40 PM

If we have learned anything from Obama during the last year or so the guy has a reactive Personality at best.

We want a leader in the White House and not somebody who cannot make a decision of who to be associated for 20 years, and now that his poll numbers were lagging, reacted to it when it was convenient to do so.

Poor PASTOR WRIGHT...

Posted by: Sycamore, VA | April 30, 2008 2:27 PM

IMHO, Obama should have left Wright's church before he started his campaign for the presidency.

Barring that, he should have left after the clips from Wright's sermons were revealed. What did he do? He made a very nice speech about race relations in the US, but he took no action.

"Now, following Wright's press conference, Obama claims that he's "outraged" and "saddened," but again has taken no positive action to distance himself from Wright and his church."

Look how much we have learned from listening to Jeremiah Wright in a few hours that we've seen him. If it takes 20 years for Barack to recognize what kind of individual and pastor he really is, then what is he doing running for President.

Also to assume that the American people is this dumb to believe him that he didn't know or hear all these remarks before he ran for the Presidency is beyond belief.

Does he go to Church just to sleep or what?

I think this is now a battle of EGO between him and his pastor. I heard mentioned of ME, ME, ME on his press conference.

America WAKE UP for it can take another 20 years before he recognize that we have REAL Problems in the Country.

What a FLAWED candidate this guy is.


Posted by: Sycamore, VA | April 30, 2008 2:21 PM

Anonymous: Give it up. You called me a racist, and are now unable to quote any racist statement made by me. Let's move on.

Posted by: James | April 30, 2008 2:18 PM

Quote: "I didn't think you could come up with anything. Your apology is hereby accepted."

As the exit polls say, another under educated Clinton supporter.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 2:12 PM

Quoting the news on Jimmy Carter"

"His mother, whom he adored, would "be delighted I think at the prospect of a black man being elected president". In an aside that will give scant comfort to Mrs Clinton, he added: "And she would be pleased - I wouldn't say delighted - at the prospect of a woman being president."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 2:10 PM

I didn't think you could come up with anything. Your apology is hereby accepted.

Posted by: James | April 30, 2008 2:06 PM

James, speak for yourself. No apology is forthcoming or due. Read your own posts or someone else is posting using your ID.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 2:06 PM

Anonymous: Please post any of my comments which you consider to be racist. If you cannot, please consider your apology to be accepted in advance. Thank you.

Posted by: James | April 30, 2008 2:02 PM

"Anonymous: Many people may not go to church, but they do care if we have a racist President. That is going to cause severe problems for Obama.


LOL,this from the poster who has made the most racist statement on this thread. LOL

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 2:01 PM

It sure got quiet around here. Hillary and Bill Clinton on trial for fraud in Los Angeles, civil court case #BC304174 and Jimmy Carter endorses Obama. Hmmmm?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 1:54 PM

Anonymous: Many people may not go to church, but they do care if we have a racist President. That is going to cause severe problems for Obama.

Posted by: James | April 30, 2008 1:52 PM

"A Nobel Peace Prize winner who abhors the policies of President George W. Bush, Mr Carter added: "A lot of them see Obama as kind of a diametrical opposite from George W. Bush and they think that he will bring to the presidency a brand new picture of what the White House and Washington and the United States ought to be."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 1:50 PM

I laugh at all the people with the conspiracy theory that Wright and Obama planned this whole thing! Can you tell me what the reason would be? Do you think he thought it would be good for his
campaign? Why not say that Hillary paid Wright

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 1:47 PM

James, give it up. A large percentage of the population of the US does not go to "church" or believe in organized religion any longer. Look it up.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 1:46 PM

This is not about Wright. It is about the character and judgment of someone who would join a racist black liberation theology church; stay for 20 years; formulate a close relationship with the racist and anti-American pastor; try to conceal this from the public by continually saying that he is a "Christian;" and then expect us to forget about those 20 years, merely because he himself is finally "outraged." Wright preaches black liberation theology. Here are a few statements from James Cone, a founder of black liberation theology, about Obama's religion:

(1) To be Christian is to be one of those whom God has chosen. God has chosen black people. (2) While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism. (3) Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.

Posted by: James | April 30, 2008 1:42 PM

'The former president, who travels the globe dealing with the conflict resolution and human rights issues promoted by his Carter Centre, told this newspaper that "overseas there is an intense infatuation with Obama, perhaps more than there ever has been in previous history with any candidate".

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 1:41 PM

From today's news:

Jimmy Carter praises Obama

"Coming from the most distinguished of some 300 uncommitted "super-delegates" - the Democratic party leaders who will crown their party's nominee - Mr Carter's new public stance is a blow to Hillary Clinton's chances of winning the White House."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 1:37 PM

Obama can transform America's image, says Jimmy Carter

By Toby Harnden in Washington
Last Updated: 11:59AM BST 30/04/2008

"Former President Jimmy Carter has given Barack Obama a major boost by calling for the bitter Democratic nomination battle to end on June 3rd and speaking glowingly of his ability to "transform the image" of America."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 1:29 PM

Whatever you wish to believe. Nevertheless, he is not on trial for fraud. Hillary Clinton is.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 1:27 PM

THE DANGER OF COLLECTIVE WISHFUL THINKING: I believe many have a desire for that Knight in Shinning Armor to come forward and solve all of our political ills. Many Americans believe they have found that person in Barack Obama. Obama, who professes to be a "different" kind of politician who represents "change" and "unity," has been very effective in playing to this "collective wishful thinking." Obama, however, knows that he is not that Knight. He knows that he has been a conventional and ruthless politician from the start. He knows that he obtained his first elective office by stabbing his friend and mentor, Alice Palmer, in the back. He knows that despite his assertions, he has obtained over $62,000,000 from special interest groups during this campaign by a method developed by George Bush and Karl Rove. He knows that despite his glowing rhetoric about unity, he chose to belong to a racist black liberation theology church for 20 years, and considered its racist and anti-American pastor as his "mentor and spiritual adviser." He knows that it is he who has played the race card over and over, in order to destroy the legacy of Bill Clinton, and blunt his effectiveness as an advocate for Hillary Clinton. And, he knows that this most recent "denunciation" of Wright only occurred because Wright told the truth; that Obama is a "politician" and will say whatever he needs to say to get elected. Yes, he knows all of these things, and so do millions of Americans throughout this country. Yet, millions of his supporters have allowed their "wishful thinking" to cloud their ability to digest any information not consistent with their image of Obama; this image that has been so carefully constructed by Obama, himself. This will account for the intellectual agility which will be required of them to change from an apologist for Rev. Wright one day, to a supporter of Obama's denunciation of Wright, the next day. In the 1930's, another people believed that they had found their "Knight" who would save them from the effects of a humiliating defeat in World War I. They, too, believed that their leader was almost infallible. They, too, hung on every word he said, and refused to believe any warnings from "outsiders" about the true nature of their leader's beliefs and actions. And even after a devastating defeat in World War II, millions of them still would not - could not believe that their leader was anything other than what he himself said he was, because to believe this would somehow not only invalidate their leader, but it would invalidate themselves. Were these people unsophisticated, stupid people? Absolutely, not. They inhabited one of the most advanced countries of its time. No, their deficiency lied in their inability to process information inconsistent with their beliefs. Their weakness was placing their "wishes" over their objectivity. All along the way, there were signs that their leader was not who he professed to be. However, their belief that they had found their "Knight" resisted any and all such signs, and enable a charismatic and hateful man to lead their country into hell. Objectivity has been defined as "the ability to perceive or describe something without being influenced by personal emotions or prejudices." Objectivity will help assure that in this nomination process, each candidate is viewed as they really are; not as they have told us they are, or how we wish they were.

Posted by: James | April 30, 2008 1:05 PM

A person (as yet unnamed):

Hopefully you are the same "person" who I asked several questions of at 7:55 PM yesterday. If you are, I am glad you found the time to post (and, hopefully, you find the time to actually answer my questions too).

First, I agree with you that 99% of the American population does not know that Hussein means "handsome" in Arabic. They probably do think of the Butcher of Baghdad, which is why I am trying to educate the (voting) American population of such little-known facts. That is the only reason I capitalize it to emphasize it. I certainly cannot answer for other posters.

Second, I do know what the Tuskegee experiments were. There is NO SIMILAR EVIDENCE that the United States government was conducting another experiment as to HIV/AIDS. In fact, every scholarly account as to the origin and spread of that disease debunks such a "preposterous" theory.

Perhaps you missed Senator Barack HUSSEIN Obama (D-IL) specifically denouncing such "preposterous" theory? As you said: "Research next time you jump to conclusions."

Posted by: JakeD | April 30, 2008 12:22 PM

Obama can transform America's image, says Jimmy Carter

By Toby Harnden in Washington
Last Updated: 11:59AM BST 30/04/2008

"Former President Jimmy Carter has given Barack Obama a major boost by calling for the bitter Democratic nomination battle to end on June 3rd and speaking glowingly of his ability to "transform the image" of America."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 11:53 AM

OBAMA: DIRTY POLITICIAN FROM THE START: Chicago Sun-Times--A close examination of Obama's first campaign clouds the image he has cultivated throughout his political career: Obama, who runs on a message of giving a voice to the voiceless, first entered public office not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it. Alice Palmer, friend and mentor to Obama, served the district in the Illinois Senate for much of the 1990s. Decades earlier, she was a community organizer in the area when Obama was growing up in Hawaii. She risked her safe seat to run for Congress and touted Obama as a suitable successor. But when Palmer lost the congressional race, her supporters asked Obama to fold his campaign so she could easily retain her state Senate seat. Obama not only refused to step aside for the woman who was his friend and had recommended him for the seat, he filed challenges that nullified Palmer's hastily gathered nominating petitions, forcing her to withdraw. Had Palmer survived the petition challenge, Obama would have faced the daunting task of taking on an incumbent senator. "He wondered if we should knock everybody off the ballot. How would that look?" said Ronald Davis, the paid Obama campaign consultant whom Obama referred to as his "guru of petitions." Davis filed objections to all four of Obama's Democratic rivals at the candidate's behest. All other candidates were disposed of by Obama's challenges. He then went on to win the election.

http://tinyurl.com/2zwwte

Posted by: James | April 30, 2008 11:27 AM


Hillary Clinton and "The Largest Election Law Fraud in History"

"Hillary Clinton's campaign appears to be in possible legal jeopardy with the introduction of a "smoking gun" video in a court case that has somehow escaped the attention of the mainstream media.

Investor's Business Daily explains that the "scandal involves allegations by movie producer Peter Paul that a 2000 senatorial fundraiser for Clinton in Hollywood violated campaign laws. Paul claims he spent $2 million to produce the fundraising event -- a de facto campaign expenditure. Under campaign law then in effect, campaign gifts were limited to $2,000."

John Armor, Election Law Expert at Equal Justice Foundation, says Hillary is involved in the "largest election law fraud in US history."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 11:11 AM

LA Superior Court Civil Summary
Case Summary

Case Number: BC304174
PETER F PAUL VS WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON

Filing Date: 10/14/2003
Case Type: Fraud (no contract) (General Jurisdiction)
Status: Pending

Future Hearings

05/13/2008 at 08:37 am in department 47 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
OSC RE: CONTEMPT

08/08/2008 at 08:31 am in department 47 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Further Status Conference

Documents Filed | Proceeding Information

Parties

CLINTON HILLARY RODHAM - Defendant/Respondent

CLINTON WILLIAM JEFFERSON - Defendant/Respondent

D. COLETTE WILSON ATTORNEY AT LAW - Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

DOYEN MICHAEL R. - Attorney for Defendant/Respondent

HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON FOR U.S. SENATE - Defendant/Respondent

KREEP GARY G. - Former Attorney for Pltf/Petn

LEVIN JAMES - Defendant/Respondent

MACHTINGER LEONARD A. - Attorney for Defendant/Respondent

NORMAN JAN B. - Associated Counsel

NORRIS STERLING E. ESQ. - Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

PAUL PETER F. - Plaintiff/Petitioner

ROSEN DAVID - Defendant/Respondent

SMITH GARY - Defendant/Respondent

TONKEN AARON - Defendant/Respondent

WILLAMS & CONNOLLY - Attorney for Defendant/Respondent

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 11:07 AM

www.lasuperiorcourt.org

Click on case summaries in civil column,

Search for case number BC304174.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 11:05 AM

Bill Clinton was impeached for lying under oath. Hillary is a proven habitual liar and now they are on trial for fraud in Los Angeles. Case number BC304174.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 11:03 AM

WHAT A SAD SPECTACLE. For weeks now, Obama supporters, political pundits, talk show hosts, and even "The View" panel members have been defending Rev. Wright; defending the statements of Rev. Wright; saying that they were taken out of context; even saying that they were true; all in order to defend their candidate, Barack Obama. And now, with one fell swoop, Obama himself has taken the rug out from underneath all of these supporters and de-legitimized their arguments by saying that he himself, is "outraged" by the statements of Rev. Wright, and that he no longer wishes to have any relationship with him. Interestingly, the things said by Rev. Wright in his recent public appearances and interviews were pretty much what we all know he has said before. The only thing materially different was when Rev. Wright twice stated that Obama says what he has to say, because he is a politician. So, what is the lesson of this sad spectacle? Three things. Firstly, it is that Rev. Wright can say anything he wants about "white people" and America, no matter how disgusting or untrue, but if he dares "diss" Obama personally, then Obama is finally "OUTRAGED." Secondly, it has shown the extent to which some Obama supporters and apologists will go to justify and rationalize any action on the part of Obama or one of his advisers, even to the extent of sanctioning racist and anti-American hate speech, in order to defend Obama and promote his campaign. Finally, it has shown once again that Obama will do anything, and jettison anyone, in his quest for power and the Presidency. The "denunciation" of Wright by Obama is self-serving damage control, and nothing more. The actions by some of his supporters in trying to defend the indefensible, represent a shameful combination of political expediency, lack of objectivity, and hypocrisy.

Posted by: James | April 30, 2008 10:28 AM

Well done. Even your President would be proud of you. After all, he screwed that line, Big Time, on Prime Time TV.


Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

Posted by: justadad55 | April 30, 2008 10:27 AM

Hey, all you white kids still drinking Obama's koolaid:

did you see Al Sharpton also denounced Obama for grandstanding for white folks?

lol! Looks like the real black leaders are not fooled by the fraud.

Posted by: Zee | April 30, 2008 10:16 AM

I had a friend who worked for Nightline and got to meet and hang around with tons of leading political figures. She told me never to vote based on who I 'liked' or 'disliked' because candidates' personas are so carefully managed, handled, etc. Every single look, word, facial tic, gesture has been planned out by somebody else and designed to manipulate your emotions. If you 'like' a candidate, it's because the handlers got it right. If you don't 'like' them, you're probably not in the demographic being wooed.

She said she never saw an exception to this, and that *all* policiticans--those who seem smart and those who don't, those who seem "wonky" and those who seem "folksy"--*all* politicians are products developed by teams of people out to win over certain audiences. You can't say whether you 'like' them or 'hate' them. You don't know them.

So, you can't vote on your emotions, because they're being manipulated and aren't reliable. You have to go on what the candidates have actually done in office. Not what they say they will do or would have done, but what they actually have done. This is tough for Democrats because we've put forward two candidates with very little experience in that sense. Obama is young and inexperienced and Hillary's experience is mostly in a private, unofficial capacity. Almost her entire "experience" has been filtered through Bill, and despite her saying she was deeply involved in governing, there's no evidence of that.

I personally voted for Obama because Hillary voted for the War. With that vote, Congress abrogated their Constitutional authority and wrote President Bush a blank check, and look what he did with it. That vote was a disaster for our country, and I felt that way at the time. I looked up the names of everyone who voted for it, so that I would be able to hold them accountable in the future. It is true that Obama's stated opposition to the War wasn't tested through a vote. If his opponent had been a sitting senator who voted *against* the War, I'd likely be voting for them. But Hillary was tested, and she failed.

There are other reasons to vote for her or for him, I'm sure. But come on, people, read and reason. Don't go with your emotions. They aren't reliable in this kind of situation.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 10:11 AM

Shame on you, Barack Obama! Pandering to white nationalist, imperialist mythology and betraying this prophetic truth-teller Rev. Wright. For thirty pieces of silver! "For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?" (Mark 8:36)

Posted by: Brian | April 30, 2008 9:40 AM

With the way politics and the media are today, what with every little aspect of each candidate being scrutinized day after day for several months, I'm actually impressed that this is the worst they can dig up on Senator Obama. The worst scandal to hit his campaign isn't even about things the candidate has said or done, but things somebody he knows has said or done. And John McCain has the same potential problem with Hagee. If this is the best they can hit Obama with, I think he'll be fine.

Posted by: jbdsm | April 30, 2008 9:32 AM

Talk about chickens coming home to roost!

Obama has been playing the race card since b/f South Carolina.

Obama is getting just a bit more than he wanted.

It's that simple.

Posted by: Lesley | April 30, 2008 7:49 AM

4.30. 2008 NEW YORK
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McCain's Radical Foreign Policy
Amid the din of the dueling Democrats, people seem to have forgotten about that other guy in the presidential race-you know, John McCain. McCain is said to be benefiting from this politically because his rivals are tearing each other apart. In fact, few people are paying much attention to what the Republican nominee is saying, or subjecting it to any serious scrutiny.

On March 26, McCain gave a speech on foreign policy in Los Angeles that was billed as his most comprehensive statement on the subject. It contained within it the most radical idea put forward by a major candidate for the presidency in 25 years. Yet almost no one noticed.

In his speech McCain proposed that the United States expel Russia from the G8, the group of advanced industrial countries. Moscow was included in this body in the 1990s to recognize and reward it for peacefully ending the cold war on Western terms, dismantling the Soviet empire and withdrawing from large chunks of the old Russian Empire as well. McCain also proposed that the United States should expand the G8 by taking in India and Brazil-but pointedly excluded China from the councils of power.

We have spent months debating Barack Obama's suggestion that he might, under some circumstances, meet with Iranians and Venezuelans. It is a sign of what is wrong with the foreign-policy debate that this idea is treated as a revolution in U.S. policy while McCain's proposal has barely registered. What McCain has announced is momentous-that the United States should adopt a policy of active exclusion and hostility toward two major global powers. It would reverse a decades-old bipartisan American policy of integrating these two countries into the global order, a policy that began under Richard Nixon (with Beijing) and continued under Ronald Reagan (with Moscow). It is a policy that would alienate many countries in Europe and Asia who would see it as an attempt by Washington to begin a new cold war.

I write this with sadness because I greatly admire John McCain, a man of intelligence, honor and enormous personal and political courage. I also agree with much of what else he said in that speech in Los Angeles. But in recent years, McCain has turned into a foreign-policy schizophrenic, alternating between neoconservative posturing and realist common sense. His speech reads like it was written by two very different people, each one given an allotment of a few paragraphs on every topic.

The neoconservative vision within the speech is essentially an affirmation of ideology. Not only does it declare war on Russia and China, it places the United States in active opposition to all nondemocracies. It proposes a League of Democracies, which would presumably play the role that the United Nations now does, except that all nondemocracies would be cast outside the pale. The approach lacks any strategic framework. What would be the gain from so alienating two great powers? How would the League of Democracies fight terrorism while excluding countries like Jordan, Morocco, Egypt and Singapore? What would be the gain to the average American to lessen our influence with Saudi Arabia, the central banker of oil, in a world in which we are still crucially dependent on that energy source?

The single most important security problem that the United States faces is securing loose nuclear materials. A terrorist group can pose an existential threat to the global order only by getting hold of such material. We also have an interest in stopping proliferation, particularly by rogue regimes like Iran and North Korea. To achieve both of these core objectives-which would make American safe and the world more secure-we need Russian cooperation. How fulsome is that likely to be if we gratuitously initiate hostilities with Moscow? Dissing dictators might make for a stirring speech, but ordinary Americans will have to live with the complications after the applause dies down.

To reorder the G8 without China would be particularly bizarre. The G8 was created to help coordinate problems of the emerging global economy. Every day these problems multiply-involving trade, pollution, currencies-and are in greater need of coordination. To have a body that attempts to do this but excludes the world's second largest economy is to condemn it to failure and irrelevance. International groups are not cheerleading bodies but exist to help solve pressing global crises. Excluding countries won't make the problems go away.

McCain appears to think that he can magically unite the two main strands in the Republican foreign-policy establishment. But he can't. This is not about personalities but about two philosophically divergent views of international affairs. Put together, they will produce infighting and incoherence. We have seen this movie before. We have watched an American president unable to choose between his ideologically driven vice president and his pragmatic secretary of State-and the result was the catastrophe of George W. Bush's first term. Twenty-five years earlier, we watched another president who believed that he could encompass the entire spectrum of foreign policy. He, too, gave speeches that were drafted by advisers with divergent world views: in that case, Cyrus Vance and Zbigniew Brzezinski. It led to the paralyzing internal battles of the Carter years. Does John McCain want to try this experiment one more time?

Posted by Fareed Zakaria on April 28, 2008 7:13 AM

Comments (50)
doctor t:
Hi-
The reason nobody payed this proposal any attention is that it is so nuts. A simple sop to the anti-UN group, he appears that he would like to substitute the world with a fantasy world (like fantasy baseball) of "people like us". In the general election, I hope the other major and a bunch of the minor ones will put this back on the main burner to characterize McKie as the Lyndon Larouche of the present election.

Posted April 29, 2008 3:23 PM

Posted on April 29, 2008 15:23

HUSSEIN ELSHIBINI :
There is no doubt that the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan against the will of its people led to the demotivation of the military , exhaustion of the economy and ultimately collapse of the Soviet Empire.
This should be compared with the present American occupation ( officially called "liberation") of Iraq. After five years the actual results are as follows : a divided pro-American government whose authority does not extend beyond the so-called "Green Zone" , several thousands of American troops have lost their life , tens of thousands are disabled for life , and hundreds of thousands are presently suffering from post traumatic stress disorder. The cost of this war is having a clear impact on the American economy. I hope that the next American Administration would be responsible enough to admit that there is no country, whatever its might, with inexhaustible resources. Such a policy would be of great benefit to the US and the world as well.

Posted April 29, 2008 1:53 PM

Posted on April 29, 2008 13:53

SA:
This presidential campaign cycle has led me to lose all respect for the so-called mainstream media. It's shocking that such a proposal from McCain is ignored by the MSM. Their priorities are so skewed, it's beyond comprehension. Thank you very much for pointing out McCain's statement to us.

What happened to the McCain of 2000? This 2008 version bears no likeness I can detect.


Posted April 29, 2008 1:38 PM

Posted on April 29, 2008 13:38

Bob:
If McCain's point is that the world's democracies need a forum, any forum, to meet, discuss, and air their views, where their expression of views will not be distorted by the participation of dictatorships like Russian and China, then I strongly agree.

Perhaps NATO could be reenvisioned to become a global organization and fill this role.

Russian and China did not invite the US to participate in their Shanghai Council, or whatever it's called.

Fareed, you're grasping at straws.


Posted April 29, 2008 1:35 PM

Posted on April 29, 2008 13:35

Neocon Empire:
Why can't these politicians understand that the best way to promote democracy is to live well rather than going around invading other countries while burying our country under mountains of debts? The Soviet empire collapsed because we showed the Russians that we were far wealthier and happier under a capitalistic democracy than they could ever be under a Communist dictatorship. Now, after 8 years of neocon rule, we are broke trying to impose our values on the world. The Chinese are laughing at us.

Posted April 29, 2008 1:34 PM

Posted on April 29, 2008 13:34

counfounded by our leaders:
DAE,You left out John F (got us into Vietnam, and shagged everyone but his wife) Kennedy, Jimmy (blundering through foriegn policy, and attacked Iran and failed) Carter, and William Jefferson (bombing childrens pharmaceutical plants, shagged his secretary, and several of his aides all committed "suicide") Clinton.
You're right. When you look at these Presidents, it just makes you shudder at the depths of ineptitude, unfaithfulness, and criminal behavior.

Posted April 29, 2008 12:36 PM

Posted on April 29, 2008 12:36

MGLoraine:
One can only conclude that main-stream media is still doing the bidding of the Cheney White House. McCain goes around spouting absurd, bombastic nonsense like this every day, but it gets buried because the corporate sponsors know he sounds like a half-wit. Meanwhile, we are regaled with hour after hour of sound-bites and repetitive superficial analyses (i.e., speculation & prognostication by the usual pundits) regarding Rev. Wright and portions of comments he has made or is rumored to have made.

Rev. Wright is a man with opinions and a right to state them publicly. But he's not running for President, and he doesn't speak for or represent the candidate he is associated with. So who keeps trying to publicize Rev. Wright's every move while manipulating the coverage to conjure up some phony controversy? Who decides to plaster Rev. Wright's picture alongside dire predictions for Obama on the front page, while hiding items illustrating McCain's dementia / senility well in the back pages?

Cheney and Rove (or their wretched minions) are merely doing what they've been doing since 2000 - manipulating the media with influence peddling and intimidation in order to secure a third term for BushCo. And the media houses play right along, anything for a quick buck, a 'scoop', or an 'exclusive' interview.

Posted April 29, 2008 12:29 PM

Posted on April 29, 2008 12:29

Zathras:
A full defense of Sen. McCain's approach to foreign and national security affairs will have to come from someone other than me.

McCain has a long record in this area, one that reflects better than average judgment overall, but at the moment he appears to be a candidate in the general election who is still unsure that he really has the GOP nomination. This is reflected in a mix of positions intended to appeal to most voters (and that are generally consistent with those McCain held before the campaign began) and positions clearly adopted to appeal to the hard core of the Republican Party, the people who still admire President Bush. In an actual McCain administration, these two orientations could not coexist peacefully.

Having said that, I would point out that what we now call the G8 originated as a periodic gathering of the leaders of the major democracies. The Nixon administration thought it wise for the heads of governments sharing similar values to meet without being encumbered by hordes of staff and the restrictions of institutional protocol -- or by the participation of Communist dictatorships. This was not a radical approach, or one motivated by some new hostility to non-Western countries, but was instead an initiative to enable the democracies to increase their options to respond to challenges outside the security field in a timely way.

The G8 has grown beyond that vision; in many ways it has grown into precisely the kind of institution that Nixon's administration sought to bypass. In McCain's place I would be calling for expanding the G8 but convening it less frequently, say, every other year. In the years it did not meet I would attempt to resurrect the kind of informal council Nixon sought to create; its purpose would be less expansive than what McCain proposes, but its membership would be similar.

The fact is that China remains a country in which power is monopolized by the state, and Russia persists in seeking to undermine the independence of neighboring countries freed from the oppression of the old Soviet empire. No amount of American goodwill can paper over the serious differences between the governments of these countries and ours. Because once admitted to a large forum like the G8 their withdrawal for any reason would be regarded as a major diplomatic failure, the temptation to gloss over objectionable policy moves by either Russia or China -- whether Russian efforts to dismember Georgia or Chinese manipulation of the yuan -- would be considerable. It is therefore undesirable for an expanded G8, whether one thinks of this as "the councils of power" or not, to be the only forum in which the major powers interact with one another.

Periodic meetings among heads of government, representing major countries sharing democratic values, are a necessary and valuable thing, provided both the purposes and the limitations of such a forum are clearly understood beforehand. McCain's "League of Democracies," as he has described it, is grandiose and impractical, but contains at its core the important recognition that the free countries of the world can and should rest common action on their common values, as they have so often in the past.

Posted April 29, 2008 11:31 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 11:31

Amir:
Just wanted to say, keep up the good work, Fareed. One of the few major media people out there who actually concentrate on important things.

Posted April 29, 2008 11:31 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 11:31

lila:

Anyone who saw Bush's morning press conference

and who stil considers McCain, his foreign

policy clone , a realistic candidate---

Speak up. Show yourself to be an idiot.

The news conference was a horrid mix blundering

and outright lies. It was freaky.

Posted April 29, 2008 11:11 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 11:11

Jim Hickland:
McCain's foreign policy approach cements a completely overlooked facet of his campaign for President. What people and our vaunted press fail to think about is that we're not really going to vote for a man, we are really voting thousands of bureaucrats who will rush in to fill the policy and administrative posts. If enough people vote for McCain, then he'll appoint/nominate the same corrupt incompetant crowd that's destroyed this nation over the past 8 years. Fortunately, McCain is a senile old coot that can barely string enough sentences together to form an intelligent paragraph. Eventually people will turn on him

Jim Hickland

Posted April 29, 2008 10:34 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 10:34

Speranza:
Here's the thing. Statements like McCain's - and the absence of reaction to its absurdity - prove one thing for sure: America is now frightened of the world. If these were the words of a school boy about someone in the playground we'd have to ask, "What is he frightened of?" The answer is clear in this case. America is frightened that it has run out of juice and that it no longer has the character or wit to be able to pull itself out of the mire. It's going to be a long fall.

Posted April 29, 2008 10:32 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 10:32

Robert Myers:
US politicians, indeed US citizens need to embrace a foreign policy that isn't based on the presumption of always having foreign enemies. And, we need to significantly cut the military budget as part of this.

Posted April 29, 2008 8:27 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 08:27

DAE:
As regards foreign policy, I'm of the age where I thought that no president could be worse than LB "how many kids have you killed today" J, then came Richard "Cambodian Incursion" Nixon, who could be worse than that? How about Ronald "Iran-Contra" Reagan, and the worst of the lot now reigning. Well it seems they all may be trumped by John 'know-nothing" McCain.

Posted April 29, 2008 8:27 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 08:27

_kt_:
Could someone explain what the G8 does that is unique? We've got the WTO for trade and the UN for diplomacy. Is it just a rich guys club where we talk about how to arrange things for the benefit of the rich guys? If so, isn't that kind of obnoxious? I don't think I know enough about the G8 to evaluate McCain's proposal.

Posted April 29, 2008 6:33 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 06:33

Ali:
Some one should tell Mr. McCain that the Cold War is over and there were no winners....just two losers, one lost early and went bankrupt, the second one is following the same path.... with about a 15 year delayed, slow-motion structure.

However, polls tell us that the same majority that re-elected George Bush now support Mr. McCain and the difference with the Democrats is very small.....

Pretty bad, or down-right dangerous?

Posted April 29, 2008 3:19 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 03:19

Robert F. Zimmerman:
I suggest that Fareed come to Ukraine and Georgia to experience the first stirrings of Putin's efforts to keep these countries weak even if he cannot bring them back into his emerging Czarist Russia.

Posted April 29, 2008 1:53 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 01:53

Robert F. Zimmerman:
I suggest that Fareed come to Ukraine and Georgia to experience the first stirrings of Putin's efforts to keep these countries weak even if he cannot bring them back into his emerging Czarist Russia.

Posted April 29, 2008 1:53 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 01:53

Mark W.:
It's not radical to me, Nixon bombed Cambodia, so why would not Senator McCain suggest, "Bomb bomb Iran", talking about insensitivity to the effects of rhetoric on oil prices.

At a Highschool, McCain was challenged by a young person. His first impulse was to threaten that young person with "The Draft". May have been funny to him but people are watching.

Henry K. is a Consultant now. I wonder if he will become a revisionist historian as a paid Consultant ? Not too long about Henry hoped Arabs would be willing to form a cohesiveness relieving western boots on arab soils I would imagine. McCain said, "I won't go it alone", who knows what he would do.

Interesting thing is that Vietnam can be compared to regional limited incursions if one accepts the fact that North Vietnamese, Chinese, Laotians and Cambodians became active partners against our treaty obligations and strategic objectives, cough-cough.

Apparent to most of us looking at the planning stages of current and future detente' that everything is on hold until Elvis leaves the building for good.

Posted April 29, 2008 12:30 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 00:30

Neocon Empire:
John McCain has always been a hawk on foreign policies. Many of his prior records demonstrated it over and over again. I agree with the main point of the article, but have to disagree on the assertion that neocons are ideologically motivated. They are not. Democracy is not what neoconservatism is about. Neocons are hostile to the democratically elected government of Palestine. They are more than happy to protect autocratic regimes like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

What neocons are trying to do is not spreading democracy, even though that may be what they say as a cover. I am going to be the kid that yell "the emperor has no clothes" since nobody else wants to say it. What the neocons aim to do is to cement a permanant world order in which the US is the center, with western Europe and its Anglo-Saxon civilization as the core of a vast empire that stretches all over the globe. Each country in the world has its predestined role.

Nations like the UK and Germany are the most trusted allies because they are afterall Anglo-Saxon. The French and Italians are part of the traditional western Judaic-Christian civilization and therefore still part of the core neocon empire. Then you have countries like Japan, which represent the less trustworthy members that play the role of agents around the world.

All great empires must have outsiders and opponents. Russia and China are naturally targets of the neocon empire. Like Japan, they are from completely different civilizations. Unlike Japan, they are not willing to submit to the "natural" order of the world of neoconservatism. What makes these two countries stand out from the rest is that they are powerful enough to threaten this order.

You can certainly explain a lot about the neocons by this vision of theirs.

Posted April 28, 2008 9:52 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 21:52

Martin Edwin Andersen:
There is so much that is admirable about Sen. McCain, but setting up an advisors' food fight while what would be an increasingly out-of-touch president presides does not seem a wise bet to me.

The neo-cons are master apparatchiks and would, once the food starts flying, likely come out on top.

The combination of Wilsonian rhetoric and gunboat tactics may sound good, but the world is too complex a place, and we will likely end up being even more isolated.

Posted April 28, 2008 8:42 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 20:42

Martin Edwin Andersen:
There is so much that is admirable about Sen. McCain, but setting up an advisors' food fight while what would be an increasingly out-of-touch president presides does not seem a wise bet to me.

The neo-cons are master apparatchiks and would, once the food starts flying, likely come out on top.

The combination of Wilsonian rhetoric and gunboat tactics may sound good, but the world is too complex a place, and we will likely end up being even more isolated.

Posted April 28, 2008 8:39 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 20:39

A sad citizen:
Once again, an extremely well written & insightful article from Fareed Zakaria. Co-existence & economic interdependence is the key to world peace & unity. Nothing would ever be achieved by excluding 2 major powers: Russia & China from G8.& Americans think that McCain is electable!! & is the US a REAL democracy??? Wake up to reality, people! We are a nation that loves to preach democratic ideals to the world when our own house is in disorder: look at Katrina, our support of dictatorial regimes ALL OVER the world, & gross disparity of wealth in this nation!

Posted April 28, 2008 7:58 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 19:58

Betty Hamilton:
This is a fabulous article, as always. Thanks for important insights and news.
I agree, McCain is confused or out to lunch. And I agree that the press is chasing pigs in a poke. Can you see the glee with which a Democrat will challenge McCain's embrace of preemptive war? No wonder the Democrats are fighting so hard for the nomination!!!

If the current world institutions do not function effectively, it is a problem with the attitudes and behaviors of the member states. Changing the sturctures will not change these attitudes. We need to get it right with the existing, though perhaps modified, structures already in place.

After all is said and done, McCain will not be able to construct new world institutions, because he is not a great coalition builder. Just like W.


If we want change, it begins with getting the external money out of governance.


Posted April 28, 2008 6:39 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 18:39

Ken:
Yes, McCain's comments were alarming, if not scary! Instead of ignoring or irritating Russia with stupid missile defense shields at a cost of millions, we need to establish a positive relationship. Include India and Brazil, OK; ignore China, McCain you must be kidding! What I really fear, which appears to be increasngly possible, is that the Democrats are going to seize "Defeat" from the jaws of "Victory" in 2008 and McCain when President will try to resolve the strategic tragedy of Iraq by attacking Iran! Then, stand by!

Posted April 28, 2008 5:48 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 17:48

Rich:
Sorry, members of the press are all busy checking lapel flags and don't have time for this...

Posted April 28, 2008 4:32 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 16:32

bala srini:
is it a sign of the future, that american senatorial candidates in the upcoming presidential election exhibit lack of vision and mission, therby confirming to the world atlarge the apathy and beginnings of decay in the senate in particular and the american politics in general.we are getting so immersed in the murky quagmirish quicksands of middle-east that we are in a self induced and self imposed and self destructive path to second-class status.we are fast approaching the third-world status in major parameters of HEALTH,&EDUCATION & HUMAN VALUES.unless there is a grass route development in promoting awareness in these important matters of fundamentals i am afraid all these talks of foreign policy might be like spitting in the wind.the apathy and general malaise got to go and the country needs to be awakened;the question is who will;i know one who won't;HILLARY FOR SURE.

Posted April 28, 2008 3:44 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 15:44

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Posted by: REV MS PAROMITA BAIDYA ROY | April 30, 2008 6:46 AM

I don't believe obama never knew wright's views until yesterday. Come on. They knew each other for 20 years. People don't change overnight.

Posted by: Joe | April 30, 2008 4:06 AM

OBAMA'S STAND ON NAFTA IS POLITICAL POSTURING SAYS HIS TOP ECONOMIC ADVISER. HIS STAND ON IRAQ IS POLITICAL POSTURING SAYS HIS TOP POLITICAL ADVISER. AND NOW, HIS MESSAGE OF CHANGE IS POLITICAL POSTURING SAYS HIS PASTOR. WHAT KIND OF PERSON IS OBAMA? YET OBAMA'S FOLLOWERS FOLLOW HIM BLINDLY AND ARE READY TO DIE FOR HIM. IS NOT THIS WHAT THEY CALL A CULT. THIS IS REAL SCARY.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 2:40 AM

Response to 2:15

In the vast Muslim controlled and Arab lands, like Saudi Arabia, Egypt, N. Africa, up through Persia, the number of Jews was only in the low tens of thousands. And they were all 2nd class citizens under the yoke of Muslim governments.

The population of the controlling Arab and Muslim nations, however, was about 200 million. So the ratio was about one Jew for every 10,000 Arabs or Muslims. I don't think it's logical to simply put Muslims, Jews, and Christians in the same basket, with equal weight. The same ratio of Jews to Christians was true in America also. Most Jews were living in Europe.

Posted by: History Buff | April 30, 2008 2:36 AM

"Remarks in recent days by Wright have riven the nation's black community into opposing camps"


...not from any Blacks I know; they all think he's acting like a jerk

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 2:21 AM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 2:16 AM

"Blacks might be wiser allying with the "People of the Book" instead of the "People of the Sword," their former oppressors. History does not lie."

no, History doesn't lie

Slavery was done by both "People of the Book" and the "People of the Sword" , i.e. Muslims, Jews, and Christians.

So, I don't see why Blacks (or anyone else) re: slavery should be more against one religion than the other. If you are to hate Muslims for Slaver, then you might as well hate Christians and you might as well hate Jews as well. All Guilty!


do you?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 2:15 AM

Wright said today: "Louis Farrakhan is not my enemy. He did not put me in chains, he did not put me in slavery..."

No, but his Muslim spiritual guides and mentors did (see earlier post at 12:19)

some more quotes:

"Moreover, the ability of the Arabs to pay depended on their success as slave-hunters. When there had been a good catch, the revenue profited. The Egyptian Government had joined the International League against the slave trade. They combined, however, indirectly but deliberately, to make money out of it.

"The slave dealers had committed every variety of atrocity for which the most odious traffic in the world afforded occasion; for [Egyptian] Zubehr Rahamna, if they refused to pay their annual tribute, it was felt in Cairo that their crimes had cried aloud for chastisement. Zubehr is sufficiently described when it has been said that he was the most notorious slave dealer Africa has ever produced.

"The whole country was subdued. The whole population available after the battles became slaves. Zubehr thus wielded a formidable power."

Winston Churchill, "The River War"

If you'd like to understand why blacks so quickly become pseudo-Muslims and readily take Muslim names, read it - it's free online.

From "Africa Unchained" (2005)
"...the Arabs managed the East African slave trade. Over 20 million black slaves were shipped from East Africa to Arabia. Enslaving and slave trading in East Africa were peculiarly savage in a traffic notable for its barbarity. Villages were razed, the unfit villagers massacred. The enslaved were yoked together, several hundred in a caravan, on their long journey to the coast.

"Historians believe the slave trade was more catastrophic in East Africa than in West Africa. Diseases...were introduced by marauding Arab caravans penetrating the interior in search of slaves, decimated entire local populations.

"For the trans-Saharan slave trade, an estimated 9 million captives were shipped to slave markets in Fez, Marrakesh (Morocco), Algeria, Tunis, Libya, and Egypt"

Blacks might be wiser allying with the "People of the Book" instead of the "People of the Sword," their former oppressors. History does not lie.

Posted by: History Buff | April 30, 2008 1:49 AM

Just out of curiosity, how does the Black Community feel about this?

A statement is being made here. Obama either agrees with Wright (his first response), or is against him (second), or are we going to see some real political slicing and dicing and let maybe Wright be declared crazy but he makes some good points?
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Seems that many in the black community are supporting the wacky pastor:

Hill District ministers defend remarks
By Mike Cronin
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Wednesday, April 30, 2008

Sen. Barack Obama's former pastor speaks the truth, speaks for the black church and speaks for some black Pittsburgh ministers, said the Rev. Thomas E. Smith, pastor of Monumental Baptist Church in the Hill District.

Smith cited one of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's most-publicized pronouncements, his description of the Sept. 11 terror attacks as "America's chickens coming home to roost" due to U.S. foreign policies, as an example of one of those truths.

"Wright didn't slam our country in any way," said Smith, who has known Wright for about 20 years and considers him a friend. "He spoke about policies that put our country in jeopardy and human beings around the world in jeopardy."

Remarks in recent days by Wright have riven the nation's black community into opposing camps.

story continues below

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_564997.html

Posted by: Typical White Person | April 30, 2008 1:44 AM

republicans


will polarize defame and piss on obama and he will become the

flash in the pan he really is.

Republicans want him to run, he's the lone Indian


who will stop the whiteman....uh huh, sure he will...


John Riggins was something that happens once in awhile...


he certainly has more in common with "The Clintons,"


than obama


obama would be the towel boy


Andrew Young said that, Andrew Young knows the difference between hopes and dreams and "what is possible,"


Bill Clinton has demonstrated his strength of character and heart....relentlessly pounded by the Miami Dolphins / Washington INSIDERs

Cheney, Libby, the bush families, Paul Wolfowitz, the Kagans, Rumsfeld

he punched through their line, time after time...

he cut through the line, the hype, the spin , the BS storm...


how did they defeat him finally? they didn't , they couldn't so

they cheated....

they opted for electoral fraud, Diebold, voter culling, Ken Blackwell in Ohio...now working for a NEOCON think tank on K street , they intimidated the vote counters in Dade County FL, put Jeb Bushes girlfriends in charge of verifying the vote count...

talked trash relentlessly

and stained the reputation of a man that would go on to become a Nobel Prize winner...

Al Gore,

and instead of being celebrated as a great AMERICAN


we have to put up with these scheiss talking schiess stormers crap


as_if _that_ were okay,


it's not, in the real world it's called fraud

and CIA agents spinning schiess against the citizens would be called TREASON


because

that is what it is....and the punishment proscribed would death according to judicial studies that I'm familiar with, as and


because that is what it those treasonous acts are causing.


be forewarned, fair trial first, the rest is unscripted.


.your reponsibility is to the people first.


not the president by fraud.


get over itschiess stormers, you deserve jail time.


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Posted by: clear in sight. | April 30, 2008 1:37 AM

"Oval Office, "Race card, race card, race card, race card, race card," coming out of Obama's mouth"

BS it's people like yourself and the media that keep bringing it up. Obama has never once accused anyone of using race in this nomination. Not once.

You anti-Obama neocons for Hillary are a disgrace. You don't mind tearing apart this country in order to try and achieve your ends.

Just as you put us into this war with Iraq, with your non-stop campaign.

Now, it's against Obama

You don't care about this country. And your objectives are wrong:

The wars that you want will ultimately destroy this earth...there will be no winners...only losers (even including the country that you love so much).

War, is not the answer. You should be working for peace

but you're not

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 1:36 AM


want to help AMERICA come out of it's economic slump...


stop the "war" FRAUD machine...

make the US ECONOMY a matter of NATIONAL SECURITY....


put all contractors in IRAQ, AFGHANISTANT, and the US directly affiliated with the "war" FRAUD effect under GAO GSA aegis...


and examine their books.


an OCCUPATION is _ILLEGAL_


however, seperating the EMBEZZLERS aka


bushCO and CRONYs from the MONEY...


makes the United States a lot more legitimate in the eyes of the world...


especially if treasonists, like Robert M. Gates...who used the CIA as a tool to defeat Jimmy Carter in his reelection bid,

or George W. Bush who committed SEC FRAUD with Harken OIL

are arrested and prosecuted for those charges...

you could arrest Cheney for involvement in commiting perjury to Congress regarding WMD et al..it's in John W. Deans' BOOK, "Worse Than Watergate," the exact charges and the way to make them stick...

and put Pelosi as President...


then the IRAQIs might see us as a responsible and capable nation, rather than as a lawless regime "on the take."


.and we could deal for oil as an option.


.

Posted by: be jeebus... | April 30, 2008 1:36 AM

let's be honest here...


we live in a set of ecosystems...


there is no mystery, no surprise, unless you count the stupidity of leaders who think with their metaphorical crotches and not with their eyes and minds...

for example: we could have made a deal for the OIL in IRAQ...


but then there wouldn't have been any big money for


Carlyle Group, Bechtel, Halliburton, KBR, Blackwater, DynCorp, and others...


and certainly no NON COMPETE CONTRACTS AWARDED eh ???


so bushCO and CRONYs and COMPLICIT CONGRESS, creates a situation which will drain the nations economy at the very moment when the worlds populations are reaching points that will tip entire regions into famine....


these rich kids, who trash talk anything standing in their way...


could get away with it 100 years ago...the land could withstand their lies.

it's not possible any more.


We need leaders that do not pander to families or the corportocracy.


The US Economy is a NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE.

The Global Economy could use a good example of how to treat leaders who are ruthless in pursuit of personal gain at the expense of their citizens.


It would be good to see some whitehouse, executive branch members


brought down low, tried for treason and executed publically....it would give others courage...and hope...


in the fear the cowardice and the destruction of our values...


remove these scum from having an effect on our lives,


take out the trash.


today.

Posted by: B me | April 30, 2008 1:34 AM

I sure wouldn't know a prolifergate BS artist is I saw one o nameless shunt and homosexuah lovah...

I really think you're a sell Bullschitt or die trying kinda guy, and you deserve jailtime for spreading propaganda...

you are either grossly ignorant or you're an army PSYOP guy stationed in IRAQ selling shinola to the natives....FOAD SH

.

forget about Rev Wright...


let's talk about Obama's knowledge...


he said George W. Bush and company were not the terrorist threat...

better tell that to the rest of the world...

just because Billy Bob and Joe Ray believe that spew....


don't mean that they couldn't be educated to the truth by presidential election time...

Obama doesn't understand the United States problem...


George W. Bush and thedichcheenie are the number one terrorist threat to the world...


they trained al Qeargyz, the Taliban and the Contras...and Congress funded it...


it's a fact.

Negroponte, Honduras and Iraq
by Peter Watt

July 09, 2004


Until the word became unfashionable in the West, Iraq would have been called a colony. The equivalent of the colonial office, the US embassy in Baghdad, will be the biggest embassy in the world and will be headed by John Negroponte, a veteran neo-conservative of the Reagan administration.

Negroponte's specialty, while ambassador to Honduras under Reagan (1981-1985) was to ensure that any resistance to US hegemony in Nicaragua would be utterly crushed. The ambassador carried out his duties with considerable success. A brief look at Negroponte's Central American period gives us a hint at what bodes for US-run Iraq.

When the Sandinista revolution took power in Nicaragua in 1979, alarm bells rang in Washington. Somoza, the brutal US-backed dictator, had been overthrown by revolutionary forces after 43 years in power. US hegemony in Nicaragua, and thus in Central America was under serious threat. Washington's paranoia about Cuba and Bolshevism had thus spread to Central America - any challenge to the US system of control was treated with absolute contempt, as Nicaraguans were to learn right throughout the 1980s. Indeed, any government in Latin America that refused to give in to US domination, regardless of its policies, was decried as Communist - a label which provoked the most vitriolic condemnation in Washington throughout the Cold War.


In 1980 Jimmy Carter put pressure on the Honduran government to act as a "bulwark against Communism" against the Sandinista government. With Somoza gone the US had no internal grip inside Nicaragua and would thus have to control much of its anti-Sandinista operations from outside the country's borders. Some 5000 members of Somoza's hated brutal National Guard fled Nicaragua to Honduras when the Sandinistas took power. It was in consequence that Honduras became the training ground and launching pad for the US-funded Contra war against Nicaragua.

During the Reagan administration, and while Negroponte was ambassador to the country, "Contra" militias were trained in Honduras. The Contras had hitherto made relatively small attacks across the border into Nicaragua until in 1982 thousands of marines arrived with up to 200 military advisers - airstrips were built, arms supplied and radar stations erected, all courtesy of the US taxpayer.

The Contras were trained in some of the most gruesome guerrilla war techniques.

Some were trained by military officers from Argentina's dirty war who knew nothing about the jungle but plenty about torture and execution.

Others were trained in
Florida and
California

while many others, like Honduras' military dictator, General Gustavo Alvarez Martínez, were educated in torture techniques, execution and combat

at the School of the Americas in Fort Benning, Georgia.


While it was purported by Reagan that the Contras were fighting the evil scourge of communism, referring to them as "freedom fighters,"
the Contras raped,
tortured and
terrorised the civilian population

throughout the subsequent decade, leaving the destroying the civilian infrastructure, leaving tens of thousands dead and many more displaced.

Negroponte's role in Honduras was crucial as it meant maintaining US dominance in the region. Jeane Kirkpatrick, Negroponte's predecessor at the UN once declared that "Central America is the most important place in the world for the United States today." Maintaining political control of the region meant controlling its vast and rich natural resources. The Sandinistas were beginning to take matters into their own hands and started to redistribute wealth and land in Nicaragua, thus threatening US dominance in the region. Panic in the Reagan administration reached feverish and sometimes surreal levels, with the president declaring that the Sandinistas were on the verge of invading the United States. The real cause for alarm among Reaganite neo-conservatives (including the virulent anti-communist Negroponte) was that the Sandinista revolution would spread throughout El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala. It had nothing to do with communism, just as the invasion of Iraq has nothing to do with preventing terrorism. More, it was that the economic system the US had maintained in Central America since 1945 was falling apart - it was simply untenable for the impoverished masses who barely had enough to eat. Washington's solution, like its present incarnation in the Middle East, was one of force and overwhelming military power in order to maintain US hegemony. Just as Negroponte acted as the strong arm of US imperialism in Central America in the 1980s he will protect US business and political interests in the Middle East, now the "most important place in the world for the United States today."

While the country was used as the launching ground for the war against Nicaragua, US aid to Honduras increased from 5 to almost $100 million with $200 million given in economic aid. Honduras now received more aid than anywhere else in the region,

most of the money ultimately being controlled by the military.

Jack Binns, Negroponte's predecessor as ambassador appointed by Jimmy Carter, complained about the blatant human rights abuses in Honduras and briefed him as he took office. He later reported that


Salvadoran nuns

who fled to Honduras after the assassination of Archbishop Oscar Romero had been tortured by the Honduran secret police and thrown out of helicopters alive -


a speciality of the Argentine military officers employed in Honduras during Negroponte's stint. One official, Rick Chidester, claims Negroponte ordered him to remove all mention of torture and execution from his report on human rights in Honduras.

During Negroponte's stay in Honduras, human rights violations peaked. The infamous US trained death squad, Batallion 3-16, was notorious for the torture, rape, kidnapping and killing of Honduran dissidents. Hundreds of people disappeared. By the end of the 1980s at least 10,000 were dead, not to mention the conservative estimate of 200,000 deaths in Central America as a result of US intervention. Negroponte, however, claims no knowledge of the human rights abuses the US carried out and funded despite being ambassador at the time. He told CNN, "I think on balance if you look back at what we did, I think a good case can be made that there was actually less suffering in Central America as a result of the actions the United States took than there would have been if we had just folded our arms and done nothing."

Many other Honduran victims of the US led war in Central America ended up at the El Aguacate airstrip, whose creation was supervised by Negroponte, and where dissidents were detained and tortured - 185 corpses were dug up there in 2001.

When George W. Bush appointed Negroponte as US ambassador to the UN, members of Honduran death squads who had previously been granted asylum in the US were deported. It was feared they testify about Negroponte's role in human rights abuses while ambassador to Honduras.

Interestingly, none of this came up in the US and British mainstream media when career journalists heaped praise on Reagan shortly after his death. Somehow, amidst the fawning in mainstream and elite circles it was forgotten that the Reagan administration carried out in Central America one of the worst campaigns of state terrorism of the late 20th century. All of this in the context of the present situation in Iraq - one might expect that the media would pick up on the fact that many of the present incumbents in Washington are those who were responsible for the terror in Central America in the 1980s. John Negroponte's appointment as ambassador, as if it was not clear enough by now, tells something about what Bush et al have in store for Iraq.

What should we expect now that the US has handed "sovereignty" back to Iraqis? What kind of sovereignty is it? Will it be more sovereign than Honduras, which was effectively controlled by the CIA and the US military?

Of course, it is nothing like sovereignty. Some 250,000 occupation soldiers will stay in the country long after the US has left. Not having allowed any free elections, the US has installed a puppet government that will receive orders from Washington. Should the new government fail to do so, it can expect to be overthrown either by US backed coup organised from the US embassy or outright invasion (again). Iraqi sovereignty does not even allow the courts to prosecute foreign civilians or contractors or mercenaries should they commit a crime. Any mercenary guilty of killing an Iraqi is immune from legal prosecution. The new government has no control of the quarter of a million soldiers that will continue to occupy the country and intimidate the civilian population. The American government will determine how the budget of $18 billion for reconstruction is spent. Iraq's natural resources will be handed over to mostly American private companies - control of oil reserves the most obvious example. Moreover, the Bush administration has ensured that Iraq's public services should be milked for profit for US corporations who will now control much of the country's infrastructure. So much for "sovereignty."

We might consider the reaction of people in the US if a foreign power invaded, killed thousands of civilians,

destroyed the country's infrastructure after a ten year bombing campaign and sanctions that left up to

a million dead, denied Americans the right to vote while making lofty claims about freedom and democracy,

shot people protesting the invasion,

shot carloads of people at checkpoints

and condemned present and future generations to all kinds of disease and illness and maiming as a result of

exposure to depleted uranium and contact with unexploded cluster bombs.

How would Americans react when the foreign power supposedly left the country, leaving hundreds of thousands of soldiers and mercenaries in the US, all immune from prosecution in American courts after appointing a puppet government that took its orders from the foreign capital and having given American natural resources and public services over to foreign companies. How would Americans react to being denied the right to vote when the leaders of the occupying power strutted about making asserting this was a victory for democracy?

The anger and outrage Americans would feel is now felt by Iraqis. Resistance to the US occupying forces will increase, and eventually, like all imperial powers, the Americans will be forced to leave - because of the scale of the resistance and because of the chaos wreaked by the occupying forces. Yet before that happens we are likely to see a great deal of violence. The US will attempt to crush all kinds of resistance to their power, which is only likely to become more organized and apparent.

Interestingly, none of this came up in the mainstream media when career journalists heaped praise on Reagan shortly after his death. Somehow, amongst the fawning and whining in mainstream and elite circles it was forgotten that the Reagan administration carried out in Central America one of the worst campaigns of state terrorism of the late 20th century. All of this in the context of the present situation in Iraq - one might expect that the media would pick up on the fact that many of the present incumbents in Washington are those who were responsible for the terror in Central America in the 1980s. John Negroponte's appointment as ambassador, as if it was not clear enough by now, tells something of what Bush et al have in store for Iraq.


Peter Watt is an independent journalist and activist. He presently lives in France.


so slowmo AMERICANS and stupid Obama boyah...


wake up, Wright aint right, but he aint wrong...he's predjudiced...but some of his facts are right...


get over it.


.John D. Negroponte was on Charlie Rose as the Deputy Secretary of State


lying through his teeth, covering the trail of bushCO and CRONYs


it's online if you want to see a liar in action.


.


Posted by: a man with more knowlege about being president than Obama.... | April 30, 2008 1:33 AM


sheeesh...what a bunch of cynics...illogically and unrepentantly so...look, haven't you ever cared for someone deeply, but disagreed fervently about a matter?...and with a sense of grace and loyalty, felt compelled to stand by and protect them, though your beliefs were 180 from theirs?...a parent? a friend? an old beau or belle?...a teacher?...somebody?

obama tried to put this one to bed the first go round with his philadelphia speech, but the media, and clinton, wouldn't let it go...he let it hang around his neck to a great disadvantage for a great length of time, when he could have cut bait at the beginning...my sense is that he was trying to do the honorable thing by his pastor by not throwing him under the bus and attempting to explain from whence wright comes...all of this at obama's expense of credibility...and going one step further, if you watch the entire sermon, wright is actually spot on factually...but, it is a feral speech...certainly not sunshine and rainbows...

while i don't pretend to know what is in the hearts and minds of these two men, in watching wright over a 60 hour period, wright, as jon stewart so aptly put it,went from mild, to medium, to muy picante...the shift was fascinating to watch and by monday morning, the man had ridden way off the ranch on quite the high horse, saddlebags teeming with hubris...i would wager obama felt betrayed, mocked and lied to, played...perhaps even a bit foolish...

obama never claimed him as his spiritual advisor, but as his pastor...that is the work of the media...as to him not being aware of certain sermons, we don't know how often he went to church, and we don't know what he experienced...many of the congregation have sited to the media that they, too, had never witnessed behavior, like that of the last few days...

so...what is the logical reasoning of doubting obama at his word?...why is it so hard to imagine that he was hurt and surprised and shocked by wright's behavior?...there are 8000 members of wright's congregation...i do not believe they are undercover muslims, who hate the white man, tolerating and feeding off of intolerant speech...wright is a charismatic fellow, who surely gave many inspiring and compassionate speeches, in balance to the more inflamed ones, who has done great good for his community and i would wager that these people, including obama, were touched by that...

ultimately, i don't think obama was put into a corner and forced to denounce wright over this...i think he proactively did this out of grave disappointment and a certain bit of anger at wright...though this is a political campaign, obama's impetus is that of a nonpolitical nature...simply the betterment of our nation and peoples...that's it, that's all...not a powerplay, no subterfuge...

if you don't like him, fine, you don't like him...but rag on his policy.

..and if you want to question character and guilt by association, give some thought to a woman who would stay with a man, the likes of bill, for far longer than twenty years...a man who betrayed her, lied to his friends and his country at great financial expense to taxpayers...a man who has been tangled and mired in questionable politics, questionable financial dealings, ethical dilemmas of the female persuasion...

guilt by association is never pretty, and, never simple...and it is only exacerbated by our rubbernecking armchair analysis and that of the media...there are bigger fish to fry, better things to disagree on...

Posted by: jazzgrrrl25 | April 30, 2008 1:31 AM

Bush performed badly in his eight years.
I do not know how this kind of common person to be elected by the USA people 8 years ago?
Can not believe.....

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 1:17 AM

amongst chaos.
when people scream loudly, we all loose.

i have something to say, and i scream, but i don't scream loudly.

i can't see other people's comments except for...death, death, death, .....

please, don't let one person's commentary undermine the rest of ours.


when i say:
who is ___.
i type personally type in each name and do not cut and paste.

Posted by: comment lost | April 30, 2008 1:08 AM

Come to think of it, Michelle Obama's state about never being proud of America before, begins to make sense in light of Rev. Wright's sermons. . . . . Surely Michelle was listening.

And if Obama becomes President, will he accuse his politican opponents of playing the race card, like Bush accuses his of being unpatriotic??? . . . . In light of Rev. Wright and the way Obama has run his campaign and the way in which he is so quick to wrongfully accuse Hillary? . . . I can hear it now from the Oval Office, "Race card, race card, race card, race card, race card," coming out of Obama's mouth.

Posted by: Coldcomfort | April 30, 2008 1:05 AM

barrack obama, spectacular performance!

barrack obama, i think the clintons lost my support since three events:

1. hillary's bellicose statement about annihalting the relatively peaceful nation of iran. iran is relatively peaceful, because they have not subjected their interests overseas, and merely subject their interest adjacent to their borders or within the middle east.
2. hillary's support of a fuel holliday. no explanation necessary, you do the research.
3. the fiasco pertaining to comments by a former us marine corps and navy enliste.
the reverened Jeremiah Wright grew up on philly and does not know jim crowe. philly knows agression against blacks (see Move), but the reverened Jeremiah Wright does not know jim crowe.

real black activists and children of jim crowe like the Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King Junior, Malcolm X, and Muhammad Ali, know oppression first hand and will walk with white folk. when i see reverend jeremiah wright i see high yellow. jeremiah wright is mostly white, with a little black.

barrack obama isn't as black as you thought he was, but he has my support because hillary clinton supports zionism.

Posted by: egalitaire | April 30, 2008 1:00 AM

A man with more knowledge-

I actually read your screed (another few minutes of my life wasted).

I sure hope you're wrong about knowing more than O. "Not having allowed any free elections[in Iraq], the US has installed a puppet government that will receive orders from Washington." Gee, even Jimmy Carter recognizes that they had free elections on January 30, 2005 for a transitional government, ratification of a Constitution in October 2005, and an election of a permanent government in December 2005, where 76.4% of registered voters participated.

Considering you were SO off on this, I doubt if it's worth checking any of the other 'facts' you presented.

BTW, if I lived under the Saddam government, I would have welcomed American intervention - at any and all cost. I'm one of those 'live free or die' guys.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 12:55 AM

The point is that Rev. Wright has not just recently gone off the deep end. He been giving sermons like this for a long time. And actually had some of his more enflamatory sermons on his web-page.

Obama said that he never heard Rev. Wright give sermons like that, but this is hard to believe. He never heard other parishners talking about the fire sermons Old Rev. gave last sunday (the sunday Obama missed)??! . . And Uncle Wright has been with Obama as his mentor and spiritual advisor for TWENTY YEARS! . . Obama never had conversations that would indicate the kind of sermons Wright was giving??! . . Come off it -- Obama's lying. . . . . . . . But anyone who could believe George Bush, I suppose could believe Obama.

But what is really bad, is the way Obama so mean spiritedly and wrongfully attacked Clinton for playing the race cards at every turn in the election. . . . . Obama's turned out to be such a hypocrit.

And remember, the main theme of Obama's campaign was that he was the noble statesman and the Uniter. . . . . . And now we realize that he's just another politician and a hypocrit.

Posted by: Coldcomfort | April 30, 2008 12:51 AM

If Barack Obama or "Barak", as some of you spell it, is foolish enough to back-peddle now, considerably way after the first 5 minutes he should have distanced himself from that idiot hate-mongering pastor, then you can't really believe that he is of christian values.

Also, and by the way, if you can't even spell the name of the person you are voting for, then you really shouldn't be voting.

Basically, it comes down to this... If you want McCain to win, then throw your support behind Obama, because the majority of Republicans and Democrats will vote for McCain over Obama.

Given the choice between Clinton and McCain, the majority will go with Clinton.

Do the math, figure it out, be realistic, and come up with your own right choice.

Anyway you slice it, Obamas bad for our country and will severely damage us in the end.

Posted by: JST | April 30, 2008 12:48 AM

"I'm going to go out on a limb and say that even if Obama literally threw Rev. Wright under a bus, that would not be sufficient for conservatives."

Uh hummm... today Obama DID throw Wright under the bus!

A day late and a dollar short!

Not good enough for conservatives.

Not good for democrats either.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 12:42 AM

Osama today denounced the teachings and principles in a very strongly worded statement.

"I have been led astray. My spiritual leader has shown very little consideration for me and my fatwas, causing me to have to live in caves, do without my wives and cutting back my threatening videos to almost nothing. While those engaged in my suicide missions get to cavort around in topless bars and do shots, I have to make cave drawings.

Had I known this would have happened, I would have stayed in the construction business and made lots of money on the American Embassy in Baghdad."

Oh, it was Obama, not Osama.

Oh well, easy mistake to make.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 12:41 AM

Negroponte, Honduras and Iraq
by Peter Watt

July 09, 2004


Until the word became unfashionable in the West, Iraq would have been called a colony. The equivalent of the colonial office, the US embassy in Baghdad, will be the biggest embassy in the world and will be headed by John Negroponte, a veteran neo-conservative of the Reagan administration.

Negroponte's specialty, while ambassador to Honduras under Reagan (1981-1985) was to ensure that any resistance to US hegemony in Nicaragua would be utterly crushed. The ambassador carried out his duties with considerable success. A brief look at Negroponte's Central American period gives us a hint at what bodes for US-run Iraq.

When the Sandinista revolution took power in Nicaragua in 1979, alarm bells rang in Washington. Somoza, the brutal US-backed dictator, had been overthrown by revolutionary forces after 43 years in power. US hegemony in Nicaragua, and thus in Central America was under serious threat. Washington's paranoia about Cuba and Bolshevism had thus spread to Central America - any challenge to the US system of control was treated with absolute contempt, as Nicaraguans were to learn right throughout the 1980s. Indeed, any government in Latin America that refused to give in to US domination, regardless of its policies, was decried as Communist - a label which provoked the most vitriolic condemnation in Washington throughout the Cold War.

In 1980 Jimmy Carter put pressure on the Honduran government to act as a "bulwark against Communism" against the Sandinista government. With Somoza gone the US had no internal grip inside Nicaragua and would thus have to control much of its anti-Sandinista operations from outside the country's borders. Some 5000 members of Somoza's hated brutal National Guard fled Nicaragua to Honduras when the Sandinistas took power. It was in consequence that Honduras became the training ground and launching pad for the US-funded Contra war against Nicaragua.

During the Reagan administration, and while Negroponte was ambassador to the country, "Contra" militias were trained in Honduras. The Contras had hitherto made relatively small attacks across the border into Nicaragua until in 1982 thousands of marines arrived with up to 200 military advisers - airstrips were built, arms supplied and radar stations erected, all courtesy of the US taxpayer.

The Contras were trained in some of the most gruesome guerrilla war techniques.

Some were trained by military officers from Argentina's dirty war who knew nothing about the jungle but plenty about torture and execution.

Others were trained in
Florida and
California

while many others, like Honduras' military dictator, General Gustavo Alvarez Martínez, were educated in torture techniques, execution and combat

at the School of the Americas in Fort Benning, Georgia.


While it was purported by Reagan that the Contras were fighting the evil scourge of communism, referring to them as "freedom fighters,"
the Contras raped,
tortured and
terrorised the civilian population

throughout the subsequent decade, leaving the destroying the civilian infrastructure, leaving tens of thousands dead and many more displaced.

Negroponte's role in Honduras was crucial as it meant maintaining US dominance in the region. Jeane Kirkpatrick, Negroponte's predecessor at the UN once declared that "Central America is the most important place in the world for the United States today." Maintaining political control of the region meant controlling its vast and rich natural resources. The Sandinistas were beginning to take matters into their own hands and started to redistribute wealth and land in Nicaragua, thus threatening US dominance in the region. Panic in the Reagan administration reached feverish and sometimes surreal levels, with the president declaring that the Sandinistas were on the verge of invading the United States. The real cause for alarm among Reaganite neo-conservatives (including the virulent anti-communist Negroponte) was that the Sandinista revolution would spread throughout El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala. It had nothing to do with communism, just as the invasion of Iraq has nothing to do with preventing terrorism. More, it was that the economic system the US had maintained in Central America since 1945 was falling apart - it was simply untenable for the impoverished masses who barely had enough to eat. Washington's solution, like its present incarnation in the Middle East, was one of force and overwhelming military power in order to maintain US hegemony. Just as Negroponte acted as the strong arm of US imperialism in Central America in the 1980s he will protect US business and political interests in the Middle East, now the "most important place in the world for the United States today."

While the country was used as the launching ground for the war against Nicaragua, US aid to Honduras increased from 5 to almost $100 million with $200 million given in economic aid. Honduras now received more aid than anywhere else in the region,

most of the money ultimately being controlled by the military.

Jack Binns, Negroponte's predecessor as ambassador appointed by Jimmy Carter, complained about the blatant human rights abuses in Honduras and briefed him as he took office. He later reported that

Salvadoran nuns

who fled to Honduras after the assassination of Archbishop Oscar Romero had been tortured by the Honduran secret police and thrown out of helicopters alive -

a speciality of the Argentine military officers employed in Honduras during Negroponte's stint. One official, Rick Chidester, claims Negroponte ordered him to remove all mention of torture and execution from his report on human rights in Honduras.

During Negroponte's stay in Honduras, human rights violations peaked. The infamous US trained death squad, Batallion 3-16, was notorious for the torture, rape, kidnapping and killing of Honduran dissidents. Hundreds of people disappeared. By the end of the 1980s at least 10,000 were dead, not to mention the conservative estimate of 200,000 deaths in Central America as a result of US intervention. Negroponte, however, claims no knowledge of the human rights abuses the US carried out and funded despite being ambassador at the time. He told CNN, "I think on balance if you look back at what we did, I think a good case can be made that there was actually less suffering in Central America as a result of the actions the United States took than there would have been if we had just folded our arms and done nothing."

Many other Honduran victims of the US led war in Central America ended up at the El Aguacate airstrip, whose creation was supervised by Negroponte, and where dissidents were detained and tortured - 185 corpses were dug up there in 2001.

When George W. Bush appointed Negroponte as US ambassador to the UN, members of Honduran death squads who had previously been granted asylum in the US were deported. It was feared they testify about Negroponte's role in human rights abuses while ambassador to Honduras.

Interestingly, none of this came up in the US and British mainstream media when career journalists heaped praise on Reagan shortly after his death. Somehow, amidst the fawning in mainstream and elite circles it was forgotten that the Reagan administration carried out in Central America one of the worst campaigns of state terrorism of the late 20th century. All of this in the context of the present situation in Iraq - one might expect that the media would pick up on the fact that many of the present incumbents in Washington are those who were responsible for the terror in Central America in the 1980s. John Negroponte's appointment as ambassador, as if it was not clear enough by now, tells something about what Bush et al have in store for Iraq.

What should we expect now that the US has handed "sovereignty" back to Iraqis? What kind of sovereignty is it? Will it be more sovereign than Honduras, which was effectively controlled by the CIA and the US military?

Of course, it is nothing like sovereignty. Some 250,000 occupation soldiers will stay in the country long after the US has left. Not having allowed any free elections, the US has installed a puppet government that will receive orders from Washington. Should the new government fail to do so, it can expect to be overthrown either by US backed coup organised from the US embassy or outright invasion (again). Iraqi sovereignty does not even allow the courts to prosecute foreign civilians or contractors or mercenaries should they commit a crime. Any mercenary guilty of killing an Iraqi is immune from legal prosecution. The new government has no control of the quarter of a million soldiers that will continue to occupy the country and intimidate the civilian population. The American government will determine how the budget of $18 billion for reconstruction is spent. Iraq's natural resources will be handed over to mostly American private companies - control of oil reserves the most obvious example. Moreover, the Bush administration has ensured that Iraq's public services should be milked for profit for US corporations who will now control much of the country's infrastructure. So much for "sovereignty."


We might consider the reaction of people in the US if a foreign power invaded, killed thousands of civilians,

destroyed the country's infrastructure after a ten year bombing campaign and sanctions that left up to

a million dead, denied Americans the right to vote while making lofty claims about freedom and democracy,

shot people protesting the invasion,

shot carloads of people at checkpoints

and condemned present and future generations to all kinds of disease and illness and maiming as a result of

exposure to depleted uranium and contact with unexploded cluster bombs.

How would Americans react when the foreign power supposedly left the country, leaving hundreds of thousands of soldiers and mercenaries in the US, all immune from prosecution in American courts after appointing a puppet government that took its orders from the foreign capital and having given American natural resources and public services over to foreign companies. How would Americans react to being denied the right to vote when the leaders of the occupying power strutted about making asserting this was a victory for democracy?

The anger and outrage Americans would feel is now felt by Iraqis. Resistance to the US occupying forces will increase, and eventually, like all imperial powers, the Americans will be forced to leave - because of the scale of the resistance and because of the chaos wreaked by the occupying forces. Yet before that happens we are likely to see a great deal of violence. The US will attempt to crush all kinds of resistance to their power, which is only likely to become more organized and apparent.

Interestingly, none of this came up in the mainstream media when career journalists heaped praise on Reagan shortly after his death. Somehow, amongst the fawning and whining in mainstream and elite circles it was forgotten that the Reagan administration carried out in Central America one of the worst campaigns of state terrorism of the late 20th century. All of this in the context of the present situation in Iraq - one might expect that the media would pick up on the fact that many of the present incumbents in Washington are those who were responsible for the terror in Central America in the 1980s. John Negroponte's appointment as ambassador, as if it was not clear enough by now, tells something of what Bush et al have in store for Iraq.

Peter Watt is an independent journalist and activist. He presently lives in France.


so slowmo AMERICANS and stupid Obama boyah...

wake up, Wright aint right, but he aint wrong...he's predjudiced...but some of his facts are right...


get over it.


.John D. Negroponte was on Charlie Rose as the Deputy Secretary of State


lying through his teeth, covering the trail of bushCO and CRONYs


it's online if you want to see a liar in action.


.

Posted by: a man with more knowlege about being president than Obama.... | April 30, 2008 12:39 AM

So What! It doesn't matter if Hillary or Obama get the DNC endorsement, I'll still vote for either one. I don't want four more years of Republican garbage in Washington.

Posted by: Michael | April 30, 2008 12:34 AM

Conservatives are such crybabies. "OBAMA HAS TO DENOUNCE HIM! DENOUNCE HIM NOW!" "ALL RIGHT, HE DENOUNCED HIM, BUT THAT'S NOT ENOUGH!!!!! IT WAS TOO LATE!"
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that even if Obama literally threw Rev. Wright under a bus, that would not be sufficient for conservatives. 90% of these cats don't like black or brown people. They love Jeremiah Wright. They need Jeremiah Wright. The Republican platform is so idiotically out of touch with reality, and so indefensible that they need to resort to guilt by association tactics. When all else fails, revert to McCarthyism. Take your marching orders from Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and Jonah Goldberg. All three of them are weak, just like most conservatives. Did anyone read John McCain's healthcare plan? That is easily the dumbest thing I've seen in years. I'd rather George W. Bush than John McCain. This guy just isn't smart. So the racist, facist right wingers bangs their desks and screams about flags & patriotism. Keep it up, boys. You and Bob Dole Redux are going down. I can't wait. No one deserves defeat more in this country than conservatives. I just can't wait! These racist windbags should only be relevant a couple more election cycles. And it feels so good. 4,055 dead American kids in Iraq. How many more? Just give me a number. When will you feel safe? Oh, never, because you're afraid of black people and gays. My grandfather is an ardent Republican but he's got more class and more balls than any of these neoconservatives. White supremacy might have worked in the early 1900s, but it is on the wan. Neoconservatives are the albatross hanging around this country. Anyone who won't vote for Barack Obama because of Rev. Wright would not have voted for him anyway. Don't listen to their nonsense. They're fake Christians. If they really emulated Christ, then they'd forgive Jeremiah Wright and or Barack Obama. But they won't. They just want lower taxes. That's all these people care about. They're apologists for the rich, or they're rich themselves. Time to polish the platform, guys. I know, it hurts. But it's just that time.


New York City Secession 2010

Posted by: legan00@ccny.cuny.edu | April 30, 2008 12:33 AM

Rev Wright...


let's talk about Obama's knowledge...

he said George W. Bush and company were not the terrorist threat...


better tell that to the rest of the world...


just because Billy Bob and Joe Ray believe that spew....

don't mean that they couldn't be educated to the truth by presidential election time...

Obama doesn't understand the United States problem...

George W. Bush and thedichcheenie are the number one terrorist threat to the world...


they trained al Qeargyz, the Taliban and the Contras...and Congress funded it...


it's a fact.

Posted by: forget about | April 30, 2008 12:31 AM

Gonzo-

Duke hates an entire race because he thinks his is superior.

Wright hates an entire race because of real and imagined atrocities of some whites against blacks.

They both hate an entire race. That is the problem. Bigotry is being strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ. They both are intolerant of an entire race, solely because of skin color. They are both equally bigoted.

So it doesn't matter how Wright got to his position. He's a bigot, now, the same as Duke. Not all white cultures have had a history of black slavery. Do you see anything in his rantings that suggests anything other than ALL white me are evil?


Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 12:31 AM

Gotta love Rev. Wrong. He's making this easy. Real easy.

Posted by: bdstauffer | April 30, 2008 12:29 AM

Obama proves day by day how incompetent he really is, he had a chance to get past this... but he rope-a-doped that chance away.

If there is anyone out there that still thinks Obama can change anything in any meaningful way, they need professional psychological help.

Obama is the same old story with a new set of words. At least Clinton is a known quantity, Obama on the other hand is just an immature loose cannon.

Plain old arrogance and dangerous political ambition in the guise of "A man of the people." Reminds me of a black Elmer Gantry.

Posted by: plaza04433 | April 30, 2008 12:28 AM

racially conscious - sorry

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 12:22 AM

Eat Your Words, Lady:

OBAMA CHAIRMAN OF THE SENATE OVERSIGHT COMMITTED ON AFGHANISTAN FOR A YEAR AND A HALF NOW

NOT ONE MEETING
--------------
They rarely ever meet and certainly hold no hearings. Get the facts and stop screaming...you are only confirming that you're an idiot.

Posted by: michael4 | April 30, 2008 12:22 AM

Hillary is the most conniving Clinton, having one of her strongest supporters arrange the invitation of Wright. It does not change who Wright is...

but it sure tells us who Hillary is too!!

"Who was sitting next to Wright at the head table for the National Press Club event: It was the Rev. Dr. Barbara Reynolds, a former editorial board member of USA Today who teaches at the Howard University School of Divinity. An ordained minister, she was introduced at the press club event as the person "who organized" it.

But guess what? She's also an ardent longtime booster of Sen. Hillary Clinton.

Their strong supporter, Reynolds, helps arrange a speech by the outspoken and egocentric Wright which receives blanket national coverage to the disadvantage of Clinton's opponent."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 12:21 AM

Bill Moyers looks dumber than ever feeding wright easy answers. PBS and the activists Move On have shoot themsevles in foot-again. Dean ed, Kerry ed, Gore d, Carter d, Kennedy ed. Eye carumba! Germans, Irish, Japanese, Vitnemse etc. have all gotten past their 'heritage' and blended in ...so time to move on dot org that.
Bush has to be laughing and again blaming Dems/ Congress...as they Pelosi, Reid, Kerry, Gore, Carter, etc. are weak,too. Go Hillary!

Posted by: ribbon | April 30, 2008 12:19 AM

Bush is a fake Christian. Now it seems Obama is a fake Christian too! How Ironic is that. Those who have vitriolic hatred for Bush are supporting someone EXACTLY like him! Is that too funny or what? Suddenly after 20 years BS I mean BH Obama and Mama Obama denounce Wright for what he stands for. After 20 years you don't know what your Pastor stands for? Liar.

Posted by: Jason | April 30, 2008 12:19 AM

The good Reverend Wright, along with other anti-white blacks, should wake up and start focusing their energy and intelligence toward their true African heritage which was full of suffering. Here's an example quote:

"The stronger race soon began to prey upon the simple [black African] aboriginals; some of the Arab tribes were camel-breeders; some were goat-herds; some were Baggaras or cow-herds. But all, without exception, were hunters of men. To the great slave-market at Jedda [in today's Saudi Arabia] a continual stream of negro captives has flowed for hundreds of years. The invention of gunpowder and the adoption by the Arabs of firearms facilitated the traffic by placing the ignorant negroes at a further disadvantage. Thus the situation in the Sudan for several centuries may be summed up as follows: The dominant race of Arab invaders was unceasingly spreading its blood, religion, customs, and language among the black aboriginal population, and at the same time it harried and enslaved them.

"The state of society that arose out of this may be easily imagined. The warlike Arab tribes fought and brawled among themselves in ceaseless feud and strife. The negroes trembled in apprehension of capture, or rose locally against their oppressors. Occasionally an important Sheikh would effect the combination of many tribes, and a kingdom came into existence --a community consisting of a military class armed with guns and of
multitudes of slaves, at once their servants and their merchandise, and sometimes trained as soldiers. The dominion might prosper viciously till it was overthrown by some more powerful league."

Winston Churchill, "The River War"

Black Muslims are being taken for a ride by their ignorance of their own history. How do Black Muslims respond to such descriptions of their story and forced diaspora like the above?

Posted by: History Buff | April 30, 2008 12:19 AM

And just like the deafening silence of Obama for the last twenty years is the deafening silence of all you self righteous, racially conscience as*bags on the left about Byrd.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 12:18 AM

This is not really about Rev. Wright. It is about the character and judgment of someone (Obama) who would join a racist black liberation theology church; stay for 20 years; formulate a close relationship with the racist and anti-American pastor such that he calls him his "mentor and spiritual adviser;" try to conceal this from the public by continually saying that he is a "Christian;" and then expect us to forget about those 20 years, merely because he himself is finally "outraged." Rev. Wright admits that he preaches black liberation theology, and after 20 years of attendance, Obama knew it, too. Where in the Bible do you find anything both consistent with the tenets of Christianity and consistent with these statements by James Cone, one of the founders of black liberation theology?
(1) "To be Christian is to be one of those whom God has chosen. God has chosen black people." (2) "While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism." (3) "All white men are responsible for white oppression." (4) "Theologically, Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man "the devil." (5) "If there is any contemporary meaning of the Antichrist, the white church seems to be a manifestation of it." (6) "Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."

Posted by: James | April 30, 2008 12:13 AM

Audacity - explain then, how the former KKK member is still an influential democrat senator.

Crickets...................

The first interaction between Bryd and Obama.

Obama: Senator, it is a pleasure to meet you.

Byrd: Flipping Obama a nickle, go get me a soda boy, Ahm thirsty.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 12:12 AM

"Oh Vera....but Hillary has been held to this scrutiny. Barack is just now being held to the same standard. I wonder how it makes him feel? Pretty petty is it? He and his supporters are whiny now that the game is not going their way."

Obama is being scrutinized over someone ELSE, not his beliefs, not his policies...over his PASTOR!! By the way, where is separation of church and state? I find it rather odd just how much religion has been in this campaign. Hillary, on the other hand, was scrutinized just a bit for all the shady dealings she, herself, has been behind! She was involved in NAFTA-she LOBBIED for it! She was involved in Whitewater, she is most certainly involved in the fraud case with Peter Paul-how convenient she won't have to testify til AFTER the general election. She spoke the lies from her OWN mouth about Bosnia and Ireland, it also came from her OWN mouth that she would 'obliterate' Iran. She also went before the American public and LIED for her husband when she knew what he had done. These people (Bill and Hillary) are such professional liars that they smile in your face while your job is being ready to be shipped overseas and their pockets are getting all the fatter!

Wake up, people! McCain-he was a member of the Keating 5...he changes his story on almost EVERY issue-some of it pandering and some of it just lies! Now, he and Hillary are trying to pull the wool over people's eyes once AGAIN, by dangling the gas tax holiday, while forgetting to leave out that you may only end up saving about a half a tank of gas but the debt will be here for years to come!

Obama's not a perfect person but if you actually READ and knew his policies and only cared about HIM and not his preacher, garbage man, mailman, the guy who cuts his hair...because this is how silly this is all becoming, then you'd KNOW why most of us support him.

Look, not ALL politicians are evil, greedy demons. There actually are some good ones but sadly, they are shadowed by the images of the cheating, scandal toxic politicians that do nothing but divide our country and tear it down.

For the first time, in MY life...there's a different politician on the scene and for once, I am excited about politics again and what that could all mean for ALL of us!

Before I'm done...please get over Michelle's comment about 'being proud for the first time in her ADULT life'. She was referring to how people were coming together and caring about politics and getting involved. I've never seen it either, in MY adult life so please...get over it!

Posted by: Vera | April 30, 2008 12:11 AM

Paul, what are you doin reading this website anyway man. Don't you know you will probably hear the devils word in here. You need to get your head out of this here website and back in your bible bro. Quick!

Posted by: Dr. Gonzo | April 30, 2008 12:11 AM

Political pragmatism is the only religion politicians know. Obama is going to lose with Jeremiah Wright so he has to take a different direction. It is my guess that Obama agrees with Wright but it is a losing strategy. For the sake of Black Christians, I'm glad this has happened because Wrights black racism is from Satan.
They need to follow Scripture not men. This may put them heading toward Jesus. I'll not vote for Obama for the same reason I wouldn't vote for Mitt Romney. You can't go from pro abortion (1.300 black babies killed every day in the US), anti white, anti Semitic and pro gay marriage, one day and Jesus the next day. In time after he proves that he has changed, maybe he will be electable.

Posted by: paul swinford Christian truckdriver | April 30, 2008 12:05 AM

No jtom, don't mistake, I am not defending Rev. Wright at all. I think he's an idiot. But he doesn't hate white people as your David Duke "analogy" would hold. He doesn't think black people are superior, more perfect beings than white's. He just hates what whites have done to his people and all that has resulted. He still is a jack ass but damn, you can't exactly say his positions and sentiments are baseless.

Posted by: Dr. Gonzo | April 30, 2008 12:01 AM

All of this focus on Reverend Wright is the gay marriage issue of 2004. This is the same crap being spewed again to take our minds off of the real issues. It's amazing how we are sucked in again on non issues such as Rev. Wright. Get ready for another 4 years of the same old crap brought to you by the war mongering neocons.

Posted by: TruthSeeker2008 | April 29, 2008 11:59 PM

The following examples of segregation are excerpts from examples of Jim Crow laws shown at the National Park Service website. The examples include anti-miscegenation laws. Although sometimes counted among the "Jim Crow laws" of the South, those laws also were passed by other states for many years. Anti-miscegenation laws were not repealed by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 but were declared unconstitutional in the 1967 Supreme Court case Loving v. Virginia.

Alabama

* "All passenger stations in this state operated by any motor transportation company shall have separate waiting rooms or space and separate ticket windows for the white and colored races."

Arizona

* "The marriage of a person of Caucasian blood with a Negro, Mongolian, Malay, or Hindu shall be null and void."

Arkansas

* Various laws from 1884 to 1947 prohibited marriage or relations between whites and blacks or mulattoes, providing for specific fines and imprisonment of up to three years.[16]

* Various laws from 1891 to 1959 segregated rail travel, streetcars, buses, all public carriers, race tracks, gaming establishments, polling places, washrooms in mines, tuberculosis hospitals, public schools and teachers' colleges.

* A poll tax was first imposed in the 1890s.

Florida

* "All marriages between a white person and a Negro, or between a white person and a person of Negro descent to the fourth generation inclusive, are hereby forever prohibited."

* "Any Negro man and white woman, or any white man and Negro woman, who are not married to each other, who shall habitually live in and occupy in the nighttime the same room shall each be punished by imprisonment not exceeding twelve (12) months, or by fine not exceeding five hundred ($500.00) dollars."

* "The schools for white children and the schools for Negro children shall be conducted separately."

Georgia

* "All persons licensed to conduct a restaurant, shall serve either white people exclusively or colored people exclusively and shall not sell to the two races within the same room or serve the two races anywhere under the same license."

* "It shall be unlawful for any amateur white baseball team to play baseball on any vacant lot or baseball diamond within two blocks of a playground devoted to the Negro race, and it shall be unlawful for any amateur colored baseball team to play baseball in any vacant lot or baseball diamond within two blocks of any playground devoted to the white race."

Kentucky

* "The children of white and colored races committed to the houses of reform shall be kept entirely separate from each other."

Louisiana

* "Any person who shall rent any part of any such building to a Negro person or a Negro family when such building is already in whole or in part in occupancy by a white person or white family, or vice versa when the building is in occupancy by a Negro person or Negro family, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and on conviction thereof shall be punished by a fine of not less than twenty-five ($25.00) nor more than one hundred ($100.00) dollars or be imprisoned not less than 10, or more than 60 days, or both such fine and imprisonment in the discretion of the court."

Maryland

* "All railroad companies and corporations, and all persons running or operating cars or coaches by steam on any railroad line or track in the State of Maryland, for the transportation of passengers, are hereby required to provide separate cars or coaches for the travel and transportation of the white and colored passengers."

Mississippi

* "Any person...who shall be guilty of printing, publishing or circulating printed, typewritten or written matter urging or presenting for public acceptance or general information, arguments or suggestions in favor of social equality or of intermarriage between whites and Negroes, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and subject to fine not exceeding five hundred (500.00) dollars or imprisonment not exceeding six (6) months or both."

Missouri

* "Separate free schools shall be established for the education of children of African descent; and it shall be unlawful for any colored child to attend any white school, or any white child to attend a colored school."

New Mexico

* "Separate rooms [shall] be provided for the teaching of pupils of African descent, and [when] said rooms are so provided, such pupils may not be admitted to the school rooms occupied and used by pupils of Caucasian or other descent."

North Carolina

* "Books shall not be interchangeable between the white and colored schools, but shall continue to be used by the race first using them. "

* "The state librarian is directed to fit up and maintain a separate place for the use of the colored people who may come to the library for the purpose of reading books or periodicals."

Oklahoma

* "The [Conservation] Commission shall have the right to make segregation of the white and colored races as to the exercise of rights of fishing, boating and bathing."

* "The baths and lockers for the negroes shall be separate from the white race, but may be in the same building."

* "The Corporation Commission is hereby vested with power and authority to require telephone companies... to maintain separate booths for white and colored patrons when there is a demand for such separate booths. That the Corporation Commission shall determine the necessity for said separate booths only upon complaint of the people in the town and vicinity to be served after due hearing as now provided by law in other complaints filed with the Corporation Commission."

South Carolina

* "No persons, firms, or corporations, who or which furnish meals to passengers at station restaurants or station eating houses, in times limited by common carriers of said passengers, shall furnish said meals to white and colored passengers in the same room, or at the same table, or at the same counter."

* "It shall be unlawful for any parent, relative, or other white person in this State, having the control or custody of any white child, by right of guardianship, natural or acquired, or otherwise, to dispose of, give or surrender such white child permanently into the custody, control, maintenance, or support, of a negro."

Texas

Twenty-seven Jim Crow laws were passed in the Lone Star state from 1866 to 1958. Some examples include:

* 1950: Separate facilities required for white and black citizens in state parks

* 1953: Public carriers to be segregated

* 1958: No child compelled to attend schools that are racially mixed. No desegregation unless approved by election. Governor may close schools where troops used on federal authority.

Virginia

* "Every person... operating... any public hall, theater, opera house, motion picture show or any place of public entertainment or public assemblage which is attended by both white and colored persons, shall separate the white race and the colored race and shall set apart and designate... certain seats therein to be occupied by white persons and a portion thereof, or certain seats therein, to be occupied by colored persons."

* "The conductors or managers on all such railroads shall have power, and are hereby required, to assign to each white or colored passenger his or her respective car, coach or compartment. If the passenger fails to disclose his race, the conductor and managers, acting in good faith, shall be the sole judges of his race."

West Virginia

* "White and colored persons shall not be taught in the same school."

This point-blank requirement for segregated schools was proclaimed in West Virginia's State Constitution as Article XII Section 8. In a remarkable show of the persistence of segregationist attitudes extending to the highest levels of state government, numerous attempts to remove this article from the constitution were defeated in the state legislature until it was finally repealed on Nov 8, 1994.

Posted by: Audacity | April 29, 2008 11:58 PM

Ooopss Obamba wants a do over and hope to win. But doesn't he not believe in HOPE. Now he can go back to being a second rate senator from the great state of Ill...

Posted by: Robinhood | April 29, 2008 11:56 PM

Now.

What about the preacher associated with McCain?

Doesn't that count?

Oh, that's right. The "liberal" media only focuses on McCain's preacher.


So many of you you are hypocrites.

And racists!

Posted by: Mike of Atlanta | April 29, 2008 11:55 PM

Obama is a liar. His campaign is predicated on a lie. He pledged he would serve out his senate term. He didn't.

He listened to the rabid and disgusting hate speech hurled out by Wright for 20 years.

NOW he is saddened.

What a crock.

It looks like Obama and Clinton are running neck and neck in the lie department.

So much for change, eh?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:54 PM

Reverend Wright's new book:

The Audacity of Obama

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:54 PM

And lastly I want to add this:

Jim Crow laws (local and state laws that mandated "seperate but equal") we're outlawed by the federal government until 1965.

Than means that only 43 years ago black people were still treated as second class citizens. Don't forget that. Equality was fought for, and many black men and women who are alive today were alive back then. They're not going to just forget that. Our white grand parents stood by and let all kinds of terrible atrocities and lynchings happen for not just years, but for centuries. So before all of you republicans get all angry about pittances like "Affirmative Action" take a step back and realize that this country was overtly racist for 200+ years straight.

Mr. Wright's comments may have been negative for white's - but hey, it's not like he enslaved them for two centuries.

Posted by: Audacity | April 29, 2008 11:54 PM

I must admit I am continually amused at the notion that JC spending 6 years being held prisoner some how entitles him to a monopoly on morality. I have to say I wonder if someone who spent that much time in prison has a monopoly on sanity. Have you ever known someone who has been in prison for years? That kind of thing does something to someone. He's a tired old man and more of the same anyways, and Hilldog is right behind. Wouldn't it be shocking if the best candidate actually got elected for once?

Posted by: Dr. Gonzo | April 29, 2008 11:50 PM

Whoever thought to attribute those 4,000 deaths in America to Obama's absence from a congressional committee is in serious need of a life. Obama didn't support the war in Iraq and spoke out openly against it. The responsibility for those deaths lies squarely with George Bush and Dick Cheney.

Posted by: purplehawk | April 29, 2008 11:50 PM

This blog should probably be closed. This isn't free speech, it's an orgy of idiocy.

Posted by: EPthorn | April 29, 2008 11:49 PM

when does he disavow his white grandma?

Posted by: hithere | April 29, 2008 11:47 PM

Betty: It is very insulting that Obama expects the voters to believe that just now, he finally "outraged" by Rev. Wright. Interestingly, the things said by Rev. Wright over the last couple of days were pretty much what we all know he has said before. The only thing different that I picked up was when Rev. Wright twice said that Obama says what he has to say, because he is a politician. So, what is the lesson of today's denouncement by Obama? I think it is that Rev. Wright can say anything he wants about white people and America, but if he dares "diss" Obama, then Obama is "OUTRAGED." This latest act by Obama is self-serving damage control, and nothing more.

Posted by: James | April 29, 2008 11:45 PM

This is not the first time Wright said what he said. Mr. Obama has been listening to all of it for a long time. If he is truely the healer of all race like he said, you would thought he will be a little sick of it a while ago. Instead, he only mildly distanced himself when he need to, like the time he decided to run for the Presidency becaue he thought it might be a problem for him. What is the first reaction when the media brought out Wright's speeach before? He try to explain it and "put it into the correct prespective" instead of do the right thing and denounce it as the racist calling that it is. Why, take a guess... he still wants Wright's follower's support for one and maybe, just maybe he himself also has a little race based idea and believe most if not all Wright's idea. Mr. Obama is not a nut case. Most men with some education and brain cannot believe things like Wright's AIDS idea. But face it, he does believe the society is putting down his fellow Black African brothers. Just look back at his wife's true thought. In her own slip, probably caused by the high at the idea of her being the first lady (like Hillary when Bill puts her in charge of health care reform the first time, yea... I am not the figure head first lady like everyone else think)... She made clear her race based thought... "Now is the first time in my life, I am proud of being a American." She is only proud because her Black Men can finally have the ablility to do what all you other people has done to them, from within the system...ha..

So do you still want to vote for Mr. Obama? The one who really have not said how he will bring us change or what type of change? The man who is not really a "COO" by his own words but just need to come up with the right idea? BTW, what idea? Any one of you know? Can it be tax everyone and welfare socialism with just a bit of Black Power?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:43 PM

Beekeeper, you're right I asked myself that exact question: "What about our foreign policy made somebody hate us enough to do such a thing." It's an important question to ask. The answer may very well be "Nothing". Still, in the Platonic style of philosophy I like to think about things in this way.

I don't know about free spirited, or ungrounded - I work 60 hours a week, I don't watch TV, and I investigate thoroughly.

Still at the end of the day I believe that all men are created equal. I believe that the only reason why countries war is because of the selfishness and inhumanity of it's leaders - not it's citizens. Finally I know for a fact that God wants us all to be at peace with each other.

It's our duty as sentient creatures to bring peace and balance to this planet and to spread life and harmony throughout the universe. I think Obama strives towards that mentality.

All in all I think Mr. McCain is a good man, better than most of what the republican party has to offer, but honestly the Republican party is too closely associated with a small sect of right wing Christian extremism for my taste. People with bumper stickers that read, "In Case of Rapture this vehicle will be unmanned", are the types I'm referring to.

Posted by: Audacity | April 29, 2008 11:43 PM

Sorry, Gonzo, I didn't mean to imply anything. I meant to be very clear that Wright is EXACTLY analogous to Duke. They both spew racial hate mixed with an enormous amount of ignorance.

You can try to justify Wright's POV with personal suffering and past atrocities, but only a true bigot blames an entire race. After all, white men may have enslaved blacks, but hundreds of thousands of whites died freeing them.

Posted by: jtom | April 29, 2008 11:42 PM

After belonging to Rev. Wright's church for 20 years, Sen. Obama now finds the reverands positions unacceptable? The fact that Obama felt the need to hold a conference about this is very, very telling. He sees his support slipping. The media and others aren't as enamoured with him as they were.

He was a member for 20 years! That represents a very long and deep relationship. So, just NOW, Sen. Obama thinks Wright is divisive, antiethical, contradictory, and exploitive? After he's had the support of the church to become a U.S. senator? Please. . . .

Posted by: Wilson | April 29, 2008 11:40 PM

The story is nearly 2000 years old: Student/follower/disciple denies his mentor/teacher/pastor in order to save his own skin: Barack "Peter" Obama. What a typical dishonest politician: he will do anything to get elected. If he really disagreed with Wright he would have denounced him this forcefully years ago, or at a minimum have denounced him forcefully a month ago when it first came up. No instead he tries to explain/legitimize Wright's views. Now when his candidacy is about to go down in flames he denounces him. What I low life, dishonest politician.

I may disagree with McCain's Republican philosophy, but at least he is honest. Sad, sad day.

Posted by: Enlightened | April 29, 2008 11:40 PM

Hypocrisy ?????????????

I did not see Rev. Wright utter any new outrageous comment yesterday than we have heard from him earlier from the Pulpit. The only thing new was that, he suggested Mr. Obama was being a politician for the stand he took. Now Mr. Obama is ready to finally denounce Rev. Wright. I guess what offends Mr. Obama most is not the fact that Rev. Wright questioned the basic fabric of the United States of America but rather him being called a politician. I guess this election is after all not about the American people but about the candidates like Mr.Obama.

Hypocrisy indeed !!!!!!!!

Posted by: Karan, Dallas | April 29, 2008 11:39 PM

O-baaaa-ma,
O-ba-ma, you'll see,
he floats like a butterfly,
and stings like a bee!

Obama is still the champ!
Barack is baaaaak!

Posted by: martin edwin andersen | April 29, 2008 11:37 PM

Mr. Judgment comes to a different one about Wright after twenty years. His keen insight may be a little slow.

When the phone rings at 3 AM, he'll reach a decision after he polls the public and gets a good feeling from his finger in the wind.

Posted by: Ed | April 29, 2008 11:37 PM

A previous poster wrote this: "If you can still re-register as Democrat in your State, do that -- new orders may be issued prior to the primary -- Operation CHAOS Rules!!!
"


New orders?

You're a mindless idiot who can't think for herself.

Posted by: Mike of Atlanta | April 29, 2008 11:35 PM

No thank you Beekeeper,
For showing the world how ignorant you are. If more of "those liberals" had been in power over the past 30 years 911 would have never happened because the world wouldn't consider us a bunch of stupid arrogant dueche bags.

Posted by: Dr. Gonzo | April 29, 2008 11:35 PM

Wright's a pretty dynamic speaker, the AIDS crap is indeed outrageous, but he is right Obama is in the end, a posturing politician, are not they all? Wright, (who looks white to me) is a clever, wealthy, preacher, who indeed does represent what the black church thinks (Wright's Black church))..not all Black churches but indeed his own.

Posted by: Carl | April 29, 2008 11:33 PM

Next year at this time, when Obama is history, and his black supporters realized he was embarrassment to the black cause, anyone mentioning the name "Obama" will be met with an uplifted middle finger and a terse: "Obama yo mamma!"

Posted by: NRG | April 29, 2008 11:32 PM

And it was the CLINTONS who paid Wright to spill his hate. Aren't they amazing?

Posted by: Jeff Wagner | April 29, 2008 11:32 PM

I'm sorry jtom,
I may be high but are you implying Rev. Wright is somehow analogous to David Duke? I can't get over the bs people's minds are full of on these blogs...

Posted by: Dr. Gonzo | April 29, 2008 11:30 PM

let's face it -- wright is no more stupid than the usual bunch of Sunday idiots. I'm glad Obama has denounced him, but he's still a whole lot better than Falwell, Robertson and the filthy Billy Graham.

Posted by: jeff wagner | April 29, 2008 11:30 PM

I have a question that keeps going through my mind. 'How can someone who has know someone for 20years and listened to them preach hundreds of times not know how they think and feel about something' To put it bluntly, how can Obama standup with a straight face and say he never heard any sermons like Rev. Wright gave at the NAACP and Press Club???? Doesn't pass the smell test to me. Sorry if this offends anyone, but that is what has been going through my mind of late!

Posted by: gcbfred | April 29, 2008 11:28 PM

Audacity wrote:

"Who is Mr. Wright? He is an American, one who thinks as many, though thankfully not all, Americans do. He is angry and distrustful. He thinks the moon landing is a hoax. He thinks the government was behind 911. He thinks that the powers that be favor white over black."

"Should we get angry at those thoughts? Or should we take a step back and ask our selves, "What did our government do that led some people to feel this way?"

Thanks Audacity, for showing some of us exactly what kind of ungrounded, free-spirited, guilt-ridden followers are attracted to Obama. I'm sure you were one of the large group of liberals who asked "What did we do wrong?" and "Why do they hate us?" right after 9-11.

Posted by: Beekeeper | April 29, 2008 11:26 PM

To say 90% of us sound like 12-year -olds
is an insult to 12-year olds. This is what the win at all cost America has brought us to. Everybody needs to stop the insult slinging and stick to the issues.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:23 PM

Sometimes it's better to rise above the fray...in other words, just ignore the shrill self serving public efforts at image rehabilitation.

What Obama did today, is sadly political posturing.

In many ways, it's insulting to African Americans and denigrates Obama's public integrity because the evidence shows, since he was a member of Rev. Wright's congregation for 20 years, that this is purely a political move.

This is sad, even for Hillary supporters, since in truth, the real differences between the candidates speaks volumes.

The truth is, Obama's campaign been marketing genius. But there are real reasons for doubting, but they have nothing to do with his minister.

There are other issues of hypocrisy worth noting within the Obama campaign:
http://www.politicalcortex.com/story/2008/4/19/182319/814

Posted by: Cody Lyon | April 29, 2008 11:20 PM

For those who dismiss the relevance of Wright to Obama's campaign:

In your hear of hearts, could you ever support someone who sat in a pew every week for seventeen years, listening to David Duke give a sermon?

Posted by: jtom | April 29, 2008 11:20 PM

The dollar will not buy me food or gas if we keep letting the Debt go Up to China and Saudi Arabia We have to stop the endless spending on war and with out taxes to replace the money or I will be to poor to care about this country any more or myself for that matter


We must get off the BUSH CREDIT CARD SPENDING

or watch oil and food and steel and copper eat every penny we make

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:20 PM

I've a question for you smitten.

Why is he coming out with this SO LATE when he had every chance at each debate to address this issue.

Now, I've a question for you Farakkkan lovers.


How are YOU going to handle that one?


I've an answer for you...De Nile.

see...you can now fall back in love.


just think about it and how this will impact upon those who are sitting on that fence...

i'm talking about the ones who are NOT IN LOVE and who
OUTNUMBER US...

Posted by: jatox | April 29, 2008 11:19 PM

To the fine lady who keeps spamming this board with hundreds of:

[b]HILLARY 08, FOR ME, VOTE FOR HER TO SHUT ME UP!!![/b]

You're giving many of us 2nd thoughts about wanting to vote for a woman who has seriously ill and retarded supporters like you. Take a pill.

Posted by: Psycologist | April 29, 2008 11:18 PM

Pastor Wright has proven to me that he is strictly scriptural. Nothing he has said goes against what a Christian should believe. I don't even attend his church, but what I've learned from Bishop Larry Harris... Pastor Wright said exactly what my pastor would have said and kept it totally scriptural.

It's funny how non-believers always want to twist what the scriptures say and never want to admit what the "Truth" has to say. For the press that asked the questions... do your research and get into Jesus. He is the "way", the "truth" and the "light"...

And as for Obama, he is a politician and seperating himself from the only "truth" that can save him isn't the way to go. He should rethink his commitment to God and let God fight the battle for him. Obama... stop running from God and run to Him. After all, it is He who will answer your hearts desires... not man.

Posted by: A Believer... | April 29, 2008 11:16 PM

Only in America can a candidate running for president be condemned for what his former pastor said as opposed to those who voted for the Iraq War. Only in America.

Posted by: Woody | April 29, 2008 11:16 PM

Paul -- never mind the impact of $4 gasoline, stagnant wages, a war without end, skyrocketing health care and education costs, or 8 years of the most disastrous presidency in U.S. history.

Those are clearly not the key factors in the current domestic discontent.

Posted by: JP2 | April 29, 2008 11:16 PM

I believe that Barack and the people who follow him have good hearts, want the best for humanity, and want to see this country become a bastion for hope, honesty, brotherhood, and compassion. That's why I will vote for him.

Posted by: Audacity | April 29, 2008 11:15 PM

A significant portion of the tax paying American populace doesn't feel represented by their own representative government. More over the majority of those same people actually feel a genuine distrust for the officials running the democracy they live under. I like Rush Limbaugh for the most part, both as an entertainer and radio personality, but the man has been the mouth piece for a group of politicians that are considered the world over to be Evil. Not just idiots. Not just bad politicians. Evil. Siren's should be going off in all of our heads at that. Even if Bush is a saint and Murphy's law has just screwed him royally we still need to ask the question why is he and the republican party seen as Evil and money grubbing by such a large percentage of people?

Who is Mr. Wright? He is an American, one who thinks as many, though thankfully not all, Americans do. He is angry and distrustful. He thinks the moon landing is a hoax. He thinks the government was behind 911. He thinks that the powers that be favor white over black.

Should we get angry at those thoughts? Or should we take a step back and ask our selves, "What did our government do that led some people to feel this way?"

For those of you who would rather see McCain or Clinton win think on this: people who like Barack like him because they think he's not completely Evil and they think that the other two candidates are to some varying degree.

Baracks inexperience is seen as good not bad. His supporters believe that he actually cares. That's really it. They don't care about his plans or policies - the plans and policies of HRC or JM still have to go through the House and Senate.

In short the president is just one person. But with him comes a cabinet and a whole army of personal - what do those people stand for?

Posted by: Audacity | April 29, 2008 11:14 PM

Word Vera, droppin' the knowledge. Hatred and fear is what make this place go round. Troubling...

Posted by: Dr. Gonzo | April 29, 2008 11:14 PM

It doesn't matter what Mr. Obama does to denounce REV. Wright. I would estimate that 80% of the people talking shi***t about Obama wasn't going to vote for him anyway. So keep your trash talking to yourself. Most of you don't like black people and probably never will. So, Mr. Obama hasn't lost any votes...think about it.

Posted by: Grow up | April 29, 2008 11:13 PM

O-baaaa-ma,
O-ba-ma, you'll see,
he floats like a butterfly,
and stings like a bee!

Obama is still the champ!
Barack is b-a-a-a-k!

Posted by: Martin Edwin Andersen | April 29, 2008 11:13 PM

we are all dust at some point its just how we get there and how soon maybe sooner is better

Go McCain

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:13 PM

The only reason to vote for this guy is because he is black, criticize other people mistake, and the fact that he and the news media consistently covers up his bad track record; because according to reports since occupying public office he has done nothing. Yet supporters sell him as John Kennedy, Martin Luther King.

Posted by: cars | April 29, 2008 11:12 PM

Pastor Wright has proven to me that he is strictly scriptural. Nothing he has said goes against what a Christian should believe. I don't even attend his church, but what I've learned from Bishop Larry Harris... Pastor Wright said exactly what my pastor would have said and kept it totally scriptural. It's funny how non-believers always want to twist what the scriptures say and never want to admit what the "Truth" has to say. For the press that asked the questions... do your research and get into Jesus. He is the "way", the "truth" and the "light"...

Posted by: A Believer... | April 29, 2008 11:12 PM

90% of you sound like a bunch of 12-year -olds with your copying and repeating. Go back and read your posts. They make no sense and a lot of them are rude and include sexual innuendos. Grow up. Think a little. Get off the computer and read a book.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:12 PM

Oh Vera....but Hillary has been held to this scrutiny. Barack is just now being held to the same standard. I wonder how it makes him feel? Pretty petty is it? He and his supporters are whiny now that the game is not going their way.

Posted by: PZ | April 29, 2008 11:12 PM

Obama "strikes back." He "strongly criticizes Rev. Wright." Listen to the news and you'd think Obama is all fired up and on the attack.

He isn't. And you have to actually listen to his speech to know that. Obama, as usual, is taking the "high road," the "gentlemanly" path, quite mildly chastising his beloved ex-reverend, using a few strong words. Just words: there was no fire in his voice, no anger in his eyes. There were times when he was lost for words, even a little absent-minded.

And, really, when you think about it, the Rev. Wright said nothing different in these past few days. He is giving the same sermons that Obama ignored for 20 years. What is different is that he is preaching to the nation now. And in the process, during these final days of the primaries, embarrassing Obama.

Obama has not shown a real strength of character, nor the fire in his belly we are looking for in a Presidential candidate. And his campaign does not hold the Presidential promise of unifying the American people. Rather, he seems to be opening what appears to be a flood gate for domestic discontent. And he doesn't seem to have any control over it.

Posted by: paul taylor | April 29, 2008 11:12 PM

Ya she would never like dislike her buddy Dick Morris

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:11 PM

If Shill or McCainiac are prez, did I mention we are all radioactive TOAST?

Posted by: dON | April 29, 2008 11:09 PM

How self serving for BHO at this stage in the game. Can you imagine what he would say if Hillary denounced some one or something that she had been supporting for 20 years. Unbelievable acting game so he can stay in the game.

Posted by: PZ | April 29, 2008 11:08 PM

Well, Obama didn't pretend you're as dumb as bricks but you're doing a pretty good job of making that a true statement! This petty crap just sickens me! I can't believe people with the mentality that I see on this board are even PERMITTED to vote! It certainly is a frightening thought to think some of you represent America! All of you Obama-haters...have you asked yourself why you don't hold Clinton and McCain to this same scrutiny? Have you asked yourselves if there's to be some big conspiracy that Barack will do something against Whites, then why does he have so many Whites in his corner? Are they all in on it, too?

Cowards, Cowards, Cowards! All of you are so spineless with your fear and prejudices that you latch onto something that's meaningless! His pastor is no one I'd vote for office and last I checked, his paster isn't on the ballot anywhere!

You need to go look in the mirror and take a good long look at yourselves. Ask yourselves why your hate rules your mind? Ask yourselves why your fear of someone who doesn't look like you will be the factor that you will vote against your own best interests.

You must like having your jobs taken away, and not being able to afford gas and getting the shaft by insurance companies. You must LOVE that our soldiers are dying for a needless cause and that thousands of people are being killed in a war our country started!

All of this misery...brought upon yourselves and others in the country because of YOUR fear! PATHETIC!

Posted by: Vera | April 29, 2008 11:08 PM

all 6000 white folks that go to that
church have violated HOMELAND SECURITY

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:08 PM

sd wrote: "It's unthinkable to me that we are allowing college kids to decide who the next president is."

And yet college age kids are fighting and dying overseas to defend your right to vote. Shame on you, sd.

Posted by: gerry | April 29, 2008 11:07 PM

WE NEED TO LOCK UP THOSE WHITE FOLKS THAT GO TO THAT CHURCH

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Posted by: YOU GO GIRL!!! | April 29, 2008 11:05 PM

Wright may not have said anything new, but he was apparently able to perform a miracle during his last speech. Suddenly Obama can hear.

Posted by: SoularEnergy | April 29, 2008 11:05 PM

HEs Not black

he my brother

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:04 PM

Barack Obama went to a "Black Supermisist" Church for 20 years and donated over $50,000 to them.

Want to know more about "Black Liberation Theology?"

Go to Asia Times Online --

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JC18Aa01.html

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:04 PM

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Posted by: CHELSEA'S FRIEND | April 29, 2008 11:03 PM

Look at the responses to this article! Some mean, some supporting, some just...stupid.

I believe Sen. Obama is not "faking" indignation, I would be upset too if I were in the same situation and I would not have been so kind to my preacher, reverend, bishop, or pastor, had they said the things Wright said. I do agree with one thing and that was the comment about Cheney. That was pretty good. Other than that, Wright was not very kind or supporting, in fact he was...stupid.

Now about the Presidential candidates. Let's take a long hard look. You've got a mean spirited woman who'd do anything to win. After all didn't the Clintons warm to the phrase "tell them anyting they want as long as you win?" Hillary has run a sophmoric, scuz-ball campaign from the git-go and her ex-prez husband has lost all credibility he built up after his two terms in office. Er, well beside the fact that he did get a presidential blow-job and turned on the U.S. teen population to the fact that a blow job was no longer sex...Thanks Bill.

The next would be the oldest man in history, should he become President. Every president has aged under the stress of office. Yes, even George, but has anyone ever thought what the torture did to McCain's mind? We can see the physical effects, but what about his mind? Oh yeah, Hero, blah, blah. God forbid if we criticize McCain for his service, but what about the other million plus vets getting the shaft from McCain over the GI bill? I guess their collective service is for naught?

Finally, we have this guy who says "and" a lot, but he's smart, intelligent, articulate and can put two words together that form a meaningful thoughtful sentence. He admits to youthful foibles, but nothing that 75% of the country tried when they were young too. He has a deep christian conviction, he's struggled to get a good educaiont and he's proven himself in his state and in the senate. Oh, I forgot...he's black. There I said it and you know what? Anyone who let's that be a factor for not voting for the guys is frankly...stupid.

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:01 PM

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NEOCONS 4 HILLARY
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YESTERDAY'S SCRIPT:
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... incite racial hatred against Muslims!

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TODAY'S SCRIPT:

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... incite racial hatred against Black Americans!

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TOMORROWS SCRIPT:

(to be announced on Fox News)

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:01 PM

I been down so long

that there is no place to go but up

Eric Clapton

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:00 PM

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Posted by: I FINALLY SHUT UP | April 29, 2008 10:59 PM

Common Man:

"Is is remotely conceivable that his church would award its highest honor to Louis Farrhakan without getting the absolute support and approval from its most important member?"

Yes -- it is absolutely conceivable.

This would be a little like saying that the Catholic diocese in DC of which Kennedy is a member must seek his approval in awards that it gives out. Doesn't happen.

Those kind of theories are only a notch below Rev. Wright's beliefs about the AIDs virus. Not by much though.

Posted by: JP2 | April 29, 2008 10:59 PM

isn't it funny, when Obama refused to throw his former pastor under the bus, you guys all screamed he was a racist, now he reacted to Wrights ranting in the press this weekend, you know call him a hypocrite for reacting to Wright's continous radical behavior. I am curious, are you guys just bitter or is there really some other undertone reason, that you bigotic minded people are refuse to reveal. This is the fact, the Clintons divided the country into an angry divide of republicans and democrats, now they have suceeded in dividing the democratic party.
Vote Obama and lets heal our country

Posted by: danielle | April 29, 2008 10:59 PM

god, it's like hearing an insane person babbling to themselves, as they kick newspapers down the street:

again, The Clinton demographics favor the un-educated.
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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:57 PM

Steve Chan --

Do you know what "Black Liberation Theology" Churches say about asians?

If not, look it up.

If so, how can you support this guy?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:57 PM

Did we mention that Obama is toast?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:56 PM

HERE IS THE BOTTOM LINE:

Unless you are a complete idiot, you will vote for whichever democrat wins regardless of your passion for either one. It is people stupid enough to vote McCain because their dem didn't win who truly epitomize the rampant ignorance in this country. The only thing worse are those sadly masochistic lower-class Republicans.(The world weeps for your ineptitude.)

Excuse me while I go take a massive bong hit, my head hurts from listenin to all you haters.

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I RANT AND RAVE AND MAKE EVERYONE READ MY LOUD NONSENSE UNTIL THEY HATE MY CANDIDATE.

HILLARY WILL LOSE.

THAT IS CERTAIN TO ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN.

I REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS FACT BECAUSE I AM EMOTIONALLY DRIVEN TO SEE A WOMAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE, THROUGH WHICH I CAN RULE THE NATION VICARIOUSLY.

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Posted by: DOMINATRESS | April 29, 2008 10:56 PM

backward countdown
296 to win at 2025 Obama
4033 to 2025 Clinton
408 Elected 295 supers

go obama

Posted by: math man | April 29, 2008 10:56 PM

Has anyone noticed that the democratic party has completely lost its mind??

When did this happen??

I think it happened when Biden and Dodd were unable to compete for fundraising cash.


Posted by: Words of Wisdom | April 29, 2008 10:56 PM

Obama's done America a great service by exposing the horrible cult of "Black Liberation Theology"

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:55 PM

It seems that the politics of personal destruction is alive and well. One cheer for the Clintons. However, if she "wins" the nomination this way, be careful, as it may bring her the same destruction as well. Is she really as "vetted" as she thinks she is? Are all the dirts really out yet?

Posted by: Steve Chan, Los Altos Hills | April 29, 2008 10:55 PM

The Clinton demographics favor the un-educated.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:55 PM

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I AM MAKING EVERYONE HATE HILLARY BECAUSE OF MY MEDICATION INDUCED RANTS.

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I RANT AND RAVE AND MAKE EVERYONE READ MY LOUD NONSENSE UNTIL THEY HATE MY CANDIDATE.

HILLARY WILL LOSE.

THAT IS CERTAIN TO ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN.

I REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS FACT BECAUSE I AM EMOTIONALLY DRIVEN TO SEE A WOMAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE, THROUGH WHICH I CAN RULE THE NATION VICARIOUSLY.

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Posted by: RAVING LUNATIC CHIC | April 29, 2008 10:53 PM

i was brainwash by CNN and I can no longer vote unless they tell me it ok and who to vote for

i can't feel my feet any more my kids look different food taste bad

i see Crazy bums preaching at me and run

my ears ring with a high piched sound when i try to think for myself

this is normal now right?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:53 PM

Obama is under attack from people who are not really intersted in uniting Americans or getting past the race division, the likes of Clinton and Rev Wright who are using the race card to the destroy the works of others who are out to move past the race issues ..

Posted by: vivien koech | April 29, 2008 10:53 PM

Obama has shown beyond the shadow of a doubt that he is not qualified to be a US Senator, let alone President.

We will be honored to vote against his race-based campaign.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:52 PM

Hey, just keep babbling it over and over, and ...just maybe.... you'll convince yourself.

...the fact remains..that regardless of the up-coming primaries...

Obama has the most delegates

(maybe you should try and get used to it...I know it's hard...to face the facts)

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:52 PM

Oh wow - I guess there's more white people than I thought! I'd better take a shot at the Rev, now!!!!!!

Sincerely,
Osama

Posted by: The Truth | April 29, 2008 10:51 PM

WHAT WILL I DO WITH MY TIME WHEN HILLARY LOSES?

MAYBE I CAN GO GET MY CAPS LOCK KEY FIXED.

I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN INVENT LIES ABOUT OTHERS.

AND SAY GO HILLARY.

I AM MAKING EVERYONE HATE HILLARY BECAUSE OF MY MEDICATION INDUCED RANTS.

I AM TO HILLARY WHAT WRIGHT IS TO OBAMA.

I RANT AND RAVE AND MAKE EVERYONE READ MY LOUD NONSENSE UNTIL THEY HATE MY CANDIDATE.

HILLARY WILL LOSE.

THAT IS CERTAIN TO ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN.

I REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS FACT BECAUSE I AM EMOTIONALLY DRIVEN TO SEE A WOMAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE, THROUGH WHICH I CAN RULE THE NATION VICARIOUSLY.

I AM NOT MENTALLY WELL, BUT I CAN TYPE, SO THAT'S WHAT I DO... NON-STOP!!!!

HILLARY O8, EVEN THOUGH THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, HILLARY 08

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Posted by: WITHOUT A WOMAN PRES, MY LIFE IS WORTHLESS | April 29, 2008 10:51 PM

It's about time Obama stepped up to the plate and put this guy in his place.

Posted by: balvenie122 | April 29, 2008 10:51 PM

I can't be convinced otherwise: Obama has backed himself into a political corner over Wright and has no choice but to denounce him in hopes it will save his run for the presidency. I will not believe that he or his wife (and maybe especially his wife) have not come to believe some or all of what Wright has said (didn't his wife say something about not being proud of America not too long ago??). I don't want her as a First Lady, and I think Obama sways with the wind. He's run out of new things to say and is sounding flat. He sees his numbers falling and he has to take a stand, or lose. It's all political.
Like I've said before, I can't understand the urgency he has to become President of the USA with the lack of experience he has.

Posted by: ALM | April 29, 2008 10:50 PM

In his recent and (finally) definitive denunciation of Wright, Obama shows that he is able to grow on a personal level and rethink the world and the relationships from which he has emerged. It is a difficult and admirable thing that he has done, recognizing change on a personal level. I hope it should be enough to demonstrate to the Democratic voting bloc that his personal capacity to grow and change is applicable to the enactment of change on a national level.

Posted by: Anon | April 29, 2008 10:50 PM

It's common knowledge that Barack Obama was the most well-known and politically significant person at Wright's church. He was a celebrity. He was their star member.

Rev. Wright was, by Obama's words, his mentor, spiritual guide, and close friend.

Is is remotely conceivable that his church would award its highest honor to Louis Farrhakan without getting the absolute support and approval from its most important member? Obama clearly knew what was going down. The Dems and libs didn't care and believed whatever story Obama fed them about this disgraceful selection. They were satisfied he was "surpised," like the rest of his church.

Obama is what he is. But his supporters have let America down, big time!

Posted by: Common Man | April 29, 2008 10:50 PM

Obama's denunciation will be turned on its head by Republicans.

By saying that it was only the things that Wright said yesterday that bothered him, Obama is admitting that he agreed with what Wright has said before that.

We appreciate Obama showing us what Black people have been saying behind white people's backs.

We will no longer go out of our way to help Black people now that we know that they blame Whites for all their problems, and more.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:50 PM

Hammer and Sickle and JP2,

You both need to look up the definitons of
Communisim and Socialism. None of the candidates running are even close.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:50 PM

WHAT WILL I DO WITH MY TIME WHEN HILLARY LOSES?

MAYBE I CAN GO GET MY CAPS LOCK KEY FIXED.

I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN INVENT LIES ABOUT OTHERS.

AND SAY GO HILLARY.

I AM MAKING EVERYONE HATE HILLARY BECAUSE OF MY MEDICATION INDUCED RANTS.

I AM TO HILLARY WHAT WRIGHT IS TO OBAMA.

I RANT AND RAVE AND MAKE EVERYONE READ MY LOUD NONSENSE UNTIL THEY HATE MY CANDIDATE.

HILLARY WILL LOSE.

THAT IS CERTAIN TO ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN.

I REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS FACT BECAUSE I AM EMOTIONALLY DRIVEN TO SEE A WOMAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE, THROUGH WHICH I CAN RULE THE NATION VICARIOUSLY.

I AM NOT MENTALLY WELL, BUT I CAN TYPE, SO THAT'S WHAT I DO... NON-STOP!!!!

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Posted by: I AM A BULLY WHO HIDES BEHIND KEYBOARD | April 29, 2008 10:49 PM

counting flowers on the wall does't bother me at all.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:49 PM

Interesting, Hillary and McCain didn't have to lift a finger. Cable news has swiftboated Obama for their own ratings and to make sure that ALL candidates understand that THE MEDIA(not the voters) have the power to decide who is elected to any office in this country.

I'd been away from TV for sev. days, and this AM when I turned on CNN, I would have thought that Obama's defeat, due to his association with this senile crazy nutbag, was already a fact. I esp. enjoy the "Republican strategists" who are allowed to weigh in on this subject as if they are unbiased observers.

What baloney. This country is ONCE AGAIN going to fail to select the best, most capable person for the job of President. Not because of anything that person did or failed to do, but because of the sheer hysteria whipped up by the corporate media.

Posted by: Susan E. | April 29, 2008 10:49 PM

Just out of curiosity, how does the Black Community feel about this?

A statement is being made here. Obama either agrees with Wright (his first response), or is against him (second), or are we going to see some real political slicing and dicing and let maybe Wright be declared crazy but he makes some good points?

Posted by: Comment | April 29, 2008 10:48 PM

Actually, we're not scared at all, nor are we conservatives.

We are white liberals that will never vote for Obama and that will never support any special pro-Black causes anymore.

Obama has set race relations back 50 years.

Obama is welcome to 100% of the Black vote.

He's not going to get any of the White vote once people know what "Black Liberation Theology" is and the fact that Obama went to a church based on it for 20 years.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:47 PM

White Americans will never vote for an Afro-american president. It's just too much for their egos.

Posted by: npf | April 29, 2008 10:47 PM

WHAT WILL I DO WITH MY TIME WHEN HILLARY LOSES?

MAYBE I CAN GO GET MY CAPS LOCK KEY FIXED.

I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN INVENT LIES ABOUT OBAMA.

AND SAY GO HILLARY.

I AM MAKING EVERYONE HATE HILLARY BECAUSE OF MY MEDICATION INDUCED RANTS.

I AM TO HILLARY WHAT WRIGHT IS TO OBAMA.

I RANT AND RAVE AND MAKE EVERYONE READ MY LOUD NONSENSE UNTIL THEY HATE MY CANDIDATE.

HILLARY WILL LOSE.

THAT IS CERTAIN TO ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN.

I REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS FACT BECAUSE I AM EMOTIONALLY DRIVEN TO SEE A WOMAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE, THROUGH WHICH I CAN RULE THE NATION VICARIOUSLY.

I AM NOT MENTALLY WELL, BUT I CAN TYPE, SO THAT'S WHAT I DO... NON-STOP!!!!

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Posted by: I HAVE A VIBRATOR LOOKS LIKE HILLARY | April 29, 2008 10:46 PM

WHAT WILL I DO WITH MY TIME WHEN HILLARY LOSES?

MAYBE I CAN GO GET MY CAPS LOCK KEY FIXED.

I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN INVENT LIES ABOUT OBAMA.

AND SAY GO HILLARY.

I AM MAKING EVERYONE HATE HILLARY BECAUSE OF MY MEDICATION INDUCED RANTS.

I AM TO HILLARY WHAT WRIGHT IS TO OBAMA.

I RANT AND RAVE AND MAKE EVERYONE READ MY LOUD NONSENSE UNTIL THEY HATE MY CANDIDATE.

HILLARY WILL LOSE.

THAT IS CERTAIN TO ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN.

I REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS FACT BECAUSE I AM EMOTIONALLY DRIVEN TO SEE A WOMAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE, THROUGH WHICH I CAN RULE THE NATION VICARIOUSLY.

I AM NOT MENTALLY WELL, BUT I CAN TYPE, SO THAT'S WHAT I DO... NON-STOP!!!!

HILLARY O8, EVEN THOUGH THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, HILLARY 08

DID I MENTION HILLARY O8?

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Posted by: I AM INSANE | April 29, 2008 10:45 PM

Wow, alot of anger. Being in politics I am amazed at how people believe the absolute worst about people in office. Hillary believes she can help the country because she understands the issues. Barak believes he can change the country by bringing people together. John believes in fundamental republican principals of free choice. Its that simple. Vote good luck.

Posted by: Econ teacher | April 29, 2008 10:45 PM

Fearless white liberal

here

one those Eternity Huggers

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:45 PM

"In This thread: Scared racist conservative white people.

Posted by: HarHar | April 29, 2008 10:38 PM"


No, just scared conservative people, and some scared moderates and liberals too.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:44 PM

WHAT WILL I DO WITH MY TIME WHEN HILLARY LOSES?

MAYBE I CAN GO GET MY CAPS LOCK KEY FIXED.

I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN INVENT LIES ABOUT OBAMA.

AND SAY GO HILLARY.

I AM MAKING EVERYONE HATE HILLARY BECAUSE OF MY MEDICATION INDUCED RANTS.

I AM TO HILLARY WHAT WRIGHT IS TO OBAMA.

I RANT AND RAVE AND MAKE EVERYONE READ MY LOUD NONSENSE UNTIL THEY HATE MY CANDIDATE.

HILLARY WILL LOSE.

THAT IS CERTAIN TO ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN.

I REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS FACT BECAUSE I AM EMOTIONALLY DRIVEN TO SEE A WOMAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE, THROUGH WHICH I CAN RULE THE NATION VICARIOUSLY.

I AM NOT MENTALLY WELL, BUT I CAN TYPE, SO THAT'S WHAT I DO... NON-STOP!!!!

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Posted by: CRAZY WOMAN | April 29, 2008 10:44 PM

Too many comments.

Posted by: Andrew | April 29, 2008 10:44 PM

The truth, folks, is that the Democratic party has never been more divided in American history. The media is trying to dig up as much dirt as they can about the other candidate. Soon, you will probably see news about Hillary doing God knows what. On another note, I am getting SO TIRED about some of you people taking everyone's points and accusing them of being rascist. GROW UP, people. This is 2008. If Obama is trying to "bring America together", then you can start by not accusing everyone of being rascist when they're complaining about Obama. I don't like Barack because he's black, or has a Muslim origin, but because what he does is so stupid, and I'm not saying this out of insanity, or because I'm "clining to my guns and religion". The same goes for Hillary. Contrary to Elton John's accusations, I don't like her just for the fact of her gender. And the same goes for McCain. Him being old is not a reason to dislike him. Call me rascist, or sexist. I don't give a damn.

Posted by: Steve | April 29, 2008 10:43 PM

It turns out, it was a Hillary Clinton supporter behind the Wright Press Club appearance. This is very typical of their Karl Rove inspired smears and fears campaign. When will their desperation end?

'Barbara Reynolds

A former editorial board member at USA Today, she runs something called Reynolds News Services and teaches ministry at the Howard University School of Divinity. (She is an ordained minister).

It also turns out that Reynolds - introduced Monday as a member of the National Press Club "who organized" the event - is an enthusiastic Hillary Clinton supporter.

On a blog linked to her Web site- www.reynoldsnews.com- Reynolds said in a February post: "My vote for Hillary in the Maryland primary was my way of saying thank you" to Clinton and her husband for the successes of Bill Clinton's presidency.'

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/columnists/louis/index.html

Posted by: KEVIN SCHMIDT | April 29, 2008 10:43 PM

WE ARE ALL JUST ACTORS IN THE STAGE OF LIFE

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:42 PM

One Obama promise that will NOT recover from the Wright flap is that he will unite the country instead of dividing it. But whoever said that the American political system is supposed to produce unity? On the contrary, it functions by divisions: there are two parties and we have elections and one party wins and the other loses. The net effect of Jeremiah Wright's deliberate sabotage of Barack's chances is to make whites wonder about how far they can trust any black not to hate them.

Posted by: Howard | April 29, 2008 10:41 PM

Anon 10:38 PM aka "svreader" in which state was Rev. Wright's name on the ballot?

Posted by: JP2 | April 29, 2008 10:41 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:40 PM

"Sen. Obama we love you know matter what. We will follow you to the end of the world. We all know the truth.

Posted by: me | April 29, 2008 3:31 PM"

Listen to the Obama supporters, they love him 'know' [sic] matter what. Sounds like your first crush when you were 13. No one can talk about his principles or achievements, he's right of there with Hannah Montana.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:40 PM

Obama is just acting. He is trying to distance himself from Wrignt in order to get white votes. 20 years with Wright, obviously Obama knows truly who this man is.
By the way I love the way CNN and MSNBC are now pretending to bash Obama over this issue, after doing a number on Hillary up to Pennsylvania election in order to prevent her from making great gains in popular votes against Obama. She was suppose to have a 20% point lead in Pennsylvania and ended up with only 10%, after weeks of bashing by these two channels. Please everyone who believe what I wrote about CNN and MSNBC, don't watch these channels. Thanks.

Posted by: akbar | April 29, 2008 10:39 PM

I just hope someone goes back to the OLD OLD GOP rule of pay as you go balance

And That will reduce the deficit that will casue the dollar to rebound for 50% of value and bring down oil and food

Stop the TAX CUTS DEVAULING AMERICA

STOP McSAME

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:39 PM

LEANZA CORNETT screamed: "THE ONLY THING WRIGHT HAS TO DO IS PROVIDE A PHOTO AND PROOF THAT OBAMA KNEW OF HIS VIEWS AND THAT WILL BE THE END OF OBAMA."
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Well, then I guess Obama is safe because nobody with a brain believes Obama shares Wright's controversial views.

The ignorant, desperate, hysterical and obsessive Obama bashing from morons like you has become hilarious!
I find it a bit to easy just to call someone a Moron without offering any counterpoint how very Sophist and unproductive. It would seem illogical to assume that the the man spent 20 years attending services and not actually listened to any of what was being said. Im not saying Obama shares his views, but if he didnt , then you think he would have found a different church to attend...just saying

Posted by: Ken | April 29, 2008 10:39 PM

Re: "Imagine Hillary's list of the over 4,000 who she sent to die in Iraq

Hypocrite."

That is so mean spirited.... That woman cried at the VA hospital...Cried!, seeing all those wounded vets from the war that she voted for...

I mean, SHE CRIED for God's sake!!!


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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:39 PM

When it was convenient for him to do it, he did it again. And it took a long time for him to do it. Why? because he believes in Wright. His decision is in o way consistent with his beliefs, it is just that for now beliefs has to take a back seat to being president. Twenty years of nothing? Ow, come on! It is just lurking in Michelle and your heart. It will not go away.
Believe me Obama, his wife and his kids are as brainwashed as the die hard communists. It is very dangerous not only for America but for the whole world to have him as president. He hates America and everything that it stands for. I cannot, in the life of me, why those who endorsed him cannot see it. Are they stupid or just plain stupid? Not much of choice in there, is there?

Posted by: Bob | April 29, 2008 10:39 PM

What's next reparations for slavery?
After 20 years the cardboard messiah
decides that he is outraged about statements like "KKK America" and the USMC is the same as the Roman Legionaires who
killed Christ. Me thinks he dost protest to late. HE IS A CANDY ARSE SISSY! Rev Sharpton and Charlie Rangol are more of a man than this sissy. Let's have them instead!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:38 PM

In This thread: Scared racist conservative white people.

Posted by: HarHar | April 29, 2008 10:38 PM

Hammer and Sickle -- there's a difference between Communists and Socialists. Your detector needs some serious re-adjustment.

Posted by: JP2 | April 29, 2008 10:38 PM

NEOCONS --

YOU ARE A TOTAL IDIOT. OBAMA VOTED FOR THE WAR EVERY SINGLE TIME.

OBAMA NEVER VOTED AGAINST THE WAR.

DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE GUY YOU'RE PUSHING?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:37 PM

Obama quite likely was never the avid church goer and believably rarely heard the theatric sermonics of Rev Wright. Many seem not to understand that Af-Am ministers commonly have a style of progressive escalation of verbiage which not infrequently climaxes in theatrics which speak to emotions more than to facts. Sadly, it seems, Wright believes his extremes while quite plausibly, Obama inferred a less inflammatory intent.
Thus, I can give Obama space to wait this long to understand Wright thoroughly enough to find him unacceptable. I am saddened that this has happened. Top flight politicians are much better off to have quiet relationships with much quieter ministers, ones less prone to political talk and more prone to inspiring personal worship. Billy Graham learned to be this way in the school of hard knocks. Note that McCain's minister avoids paralleling or describing or manipulating McCain's politics. That allows each to have his own opinions without having religious issues intrude where they should not.
Wright is unacceptable in the political arena not as much because his views are extreme but because he exposed his views in distracting from a secular Obama. I see any efforts to tie Wright's oratory to Obama as inappropriate as Obama has been every bit as secular as any other major candidate this election cycle.
We have a secular democracy, not a theocracy. Thus, injecting religion is inappropriate, whether it be Mormon or Af-Am or Protestantism.
In sum, Obama is in the right and Wright is in the wrong in this secular political arena. Wright may well be a fabulous orator, but if I were going to give him advice, I would suggest that he listen to one of his own, Rev Evans, I think of Dallas. Rev Evans knows fabulous Af-Am oratory without the appearance of hate or damnation. Hear that Rev Wright???

Posted by: LJB | April 29, 2008 10:37 PM

wow its cut and past playground nite

bring your own beer

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:36 PM

Well, I actually applaud Obama for this stand. I don't think there's a conspiracy between him and the racist Wright, that's absurd. Finally, I am happy with both democratic contenders, whether it be Clinton or Obama. We simply can not have another 4 years of Republican bull$#!t.

Posted by: John | April 29, 2008 10:36 PM

Ditto EAT YOUR WORDS!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:36 PM

With three marxists (two overt and one closeted) running for president, the only question that remains is which one will be the one who gets to bury the final hammer and sickle into the back of America?

Posted by: Hammer and Sickle Detector | April 29, 2008 10:36 PM

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Posted by: NEOCONS 4 HILLARY | April 29, 2008 10:35 PM

WHY WOULD ANYONE THINK THAT AMERICANS WOULD FORGET THAT OBAMA WENT TO A RACIST, ANTI-WHITE, ANTI-SEMITIC CHURCH FOR 20 YEARS?

ARE WE ELECTING A PRESIDENT, OR AN "EXCUSER IN CHIEF?"

OBAMA -- HIS DOG ATE HIS HOMEWORK.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:35 PM

THIS IS WHAT IS CRIMINAL -

OBAMA CHAIRMAN OF THE SENATE OVERSIGHT COMMITTED ON AFGHANISTAN FOR A YEAR AND A HALF NOW

NOT ONE MEETING

IN THAT YEAR AND A HALF THE DO NOTHING HAS DONE NOTHING:

132 BRAVE UNITED STATES SERVICE MEN AND WOMEN HAVE DIED IN AFGHANISTAN

WHILE MR. OBMA WAS "TOO BUSY" TO HOLD ONE MEETING OF THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE ON AFGHANISTAN. A COMMITTEE HE BRAGGED ABOUT. I GUESS THAT'S WHAT HE THINKS COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS ARE FOR -- SHOW.

WHILE HE WAS TOO BUSY WITH HIS CAMPAIGN TO DO HIS JOB - THESE BRAVE AMERICANS GAVE THEIR LIVES.


4/2/08 Sgt. Nicholas Robertson, Old Town, Maine 27
3/23/08 Tech. William H. Jefferson, Norfolk, Virginia 34
3/21/98 Staff Sgt. William R. Neil, Hamden, New Jersey 38
3/19/08 Pfc. Antione V. Robinson, Detroit, Michigan 20
3/14/08 Staff Sgt. collin J. Bowen, Millersville, Maryland 38
3/8/08 Sgt. Gabriel Guzman, Hornbrook, California 25
3/3/08 Sgt. Robert T. Rapp, Sonora, California 22
3/3/08 Spec. Seven R. Koch, Milltown, New Jersey 23
2/5/08 Staff Sgt. Donald T. Tabb, Norcross, Georgia 29
1/26/08 Sgt. 1st Class Matthew R. Kahler, Granite Falls, Minnesota 29
1/25/08 Staff Sgt. Robert J. Miller, Iowa City, Iowa 24
1/11/08 Lt. Col. Richard J. Berrettini, Wilcox, Pennsylvania 52
1/9/08 Sgt. David J. Krakulich, Reno, Nevada 22
1/7/08 Maj. Michael L. Green, Gautier, Mississippi 36
1/7/08 Sgt. James K. Healy, Hesperia, California 25
1/2/08 Sgt. Shawn F. Hill, Wllford, South Carolina 37
12/24/07 Senior Airman Nicholas D. Eischen, Sanger, California, 24
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Imagine Hillary's list of the over 4,000 who she sent to die in Iraq.

Hypocrite.

Posted by: Eat Your Words, Lady | April 29, 2008 10:35 PM

Lincoln was a Republican Sir Kevin you ignorant bastard. You are on the wrong website anyway, let me help you: www.foxnews.com

Posted by: Dr. Gonzo | April 29, 2008 10:34 PM

Rev. Wright is a pebble in the sand next to the dirt of the CLintons. The National Press Club showed him to be self-centered, and there is nothing wrong with Obama severing his relationship with him.

Posted by: Stay with Obama | April 29, 2008 10:34 PM

it really doesn't matter, if Obama gets into office and goes into a coma for four years this country will be far better off then the huge blunders that have occurred during the last eight. I swear, it seems like the brain is dead and the body doesn't even know it. But our kids and grandkids will...
People really don't know how much trouble we're in. So much for Rome...

Posted by: ftj | April 29, 2008 10:34 PM

I never voted for Lincoln either

Kevin and will not in the future

how does that change the flip flop of mccains on inmorall tax cuts on the priveleged at a time of war

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:33 PM

The Democrats are mostly to blame for today's mess with Obama. For four long and miserable months they kept trying to Move On past a continual flow of allegations about Obama: his early religion, his early Muslim education, his wrongful involvement in Kenya's politics and probably contributing to the massacres by his cousin and his opposition party, his proudly blacks-only African church, his rabid Reverend - a true hater and race baiter like other members of the Al Sharpton-Jesse Jackson variety; Louis Farrhakan, etc.

All Obama's cult-of-personality supporters could muster was a continual drone of "So what if he ..." Your new-found Messiah will bring the liberals down to earth and no more diversions will save you.

Not one of the allegations that Obama has survived until today would have been tolerated against a mainstream candidate. Just one of those background items would have wiped him/her off the slate.

Posted by: Charlie Shrieber | April 29, 2008 10:33 PM

I dont know why this is such a big deal!! Its not like this affects health care, social security, gas prices, lost jobs...Get to the real Issues People!! No politician is perfect for example: Hillary has lied to the American people like it was going out of style!!

Posted by: Teddy | April 29, 2008 10:32 PM

I think Obama was very Genuine. It is clear, on a personal level, he did not want to attack his former Pastor.

But Wright left him no choice on his latest media tour of crazy talk.

At least Obama can now put this behind him and we can focus on the Issues.

That's Good for America.

That's Good for Democrats.

That's Bad for Fox News.

That's Bad for Wright and Farrakhan.

If there is one weakness I see in Obama, it is that he is uncomfortable insulting people. He did not want to hurt Wright, but he had no choice. I see this same dynamic as he refrains from attacking Hillary on Obvious connections and scandals.

Maybe he's too nice to be President?

Posted by: Hillary Voted For The War | April 29, 2008 10:32 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:32 PM

I love how most of the Obama bashers can't seem to come up with a good argument. And what better way than to conceal it, then by throwing third grade insults?

Posted by: Scott P. | April 29, 2008 10:31 PM

he is OLDER than dirt to

Posted by: to JP2 | April 29, 2008 10:31 PM

From above...

"Just think how honest abe came to power and set USA on right path. Same would prove to be true for Obama, he cannot be stopped."

Honest abe sent shermon in and let him burn down southern cities and kill white people. he was just another guy doing whatever would put him in the lead position.

Screw you ignoranuses

Posted by: Kevin Coleman | April 29, 2008 10:31 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:30 PM

Remarkable. 75% of the posters here are Rush Limbaugh ditto heads, as revealed not only by their drooling hatred of Obama, but their inability to speak English.

Posted by: Pablo | April 29, 2008 10:30 PM

Outside of a treasure trove of ingenious policies (download the blueprint on his website), Obama's foresight of opposing the Iraq war is all I need to distinguish him as the ideal candidate. That type of keen judgment is perfectly suited for a commander-in-chief, and leader of the free world. Old friends and associates have little, to nothing, to do with the viability of a transformative leader, review the history books (and start with the Bible).

Posted by: cheenameister | April 29, 2008 10:30 PM

"I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community."

Oh really?

Posted by: Sam C. | April 29, 2008 10:30 PM

All it takes is one enterprising 527 showing McCain on stage praising John "the Catholics caused the Holocaust" Hagee and McCain loses Texas (German Catholics, Hispanic Catholics), North Dakota, Ohio, New Mexico and Pennsylvania.

Those voters might not turn around and vote for Obama, but a large chunk of them are likely to sit this one out altogether -- which McCain cannot afford.

McCain actively sought out the endorsement of a leader with anti-Catholic and anti-Semitic views.

Posted by: JP2 | April 29, 2008 10:29 PM

I don't think uncle sam wants to hurt us its just incompetitant at the moment (FDA) Homeland Security

and passed the buck to connected heartless venders

Posted by: uncle sam | April 29, 2008 10:29 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:29 PM

I dont know why this is such a big deal!! Its not like this affects health care, social security, gas prices, lost jobs...Get to the real Issues People!! No politician is perfect for example: Hillary has lied to the American people like it was going out of style!!

Posted by: Teddy T | April 29, 2008 10:28 PM

Obama saw a problem that needed to be addressed and he did just that. His ex-pastor was out of line. Obama has always stood for bringing people together--this is not new to his campaign. Why should he be judged by what his pastor did? Do all catholics get judged because several priests are molesting children (and nuns)? We as a nation have strong issues to confront and I want a leader who will confront them. Let's look at the war, the economy, the environment and leave religion out of politics.

Posted by: mj | April 29, 2008 10:27 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:27 PM

I am sick of hearing about the Rev. Wright and his comments. I care more about the high cost for gasoline, high food prices, and making ends meet. We are in a Depression, not Recession, but many are still focused on Rev. Wright. Stay focused on important issues that's affecting most of us as U.S. citizens. I wish the Rev. Wright would disappear!

Posted by: Depressed Citizen | April 29, 2008 10:27 PM

My God I see somuch spew of hatred from all people regarding barack. One thing is certain that Obama would make a great president that America and the World needs at this most critical juncture. Just think how honest abe came to power and set USA on right path. Same would prove to be true for Obama, he cannot be stopped.

Posted by: s | April 29, 2008 10:26 PM

Damn our media sucks. What about the important stuff, like say maybe peak oil?

Posted by: testing | April 29, 2008 10:26 PM

TO JakeD

"You forgot about the U.S. government causing HIV/AIDS as a means of killing off African-Americans and "God D*mn America!" Also, if you have more time, isn't his middle name actually HUSSEIN? I simply use his middle name (as I do Hillary's middle name) to educate people about little known facts -- for instance, HUSSEIN means "handsome" in Arabic -- did you know that? Are you similarly upset when someone from your side calls the GOP candidate "McBush"? That isn't even his real name."

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To respond to the Hussein thing, 99% of the American population does not know that Hussein means handsome in Arabic. You wanna know what they think of when they hear Hussein? And why do posters capitalize it to emphasize it? And I don't call McCain McBush, but it makes sense in the context of their similar policies.

Secondly, do you know what the Tuskegee experiments were? Between 1932 and 1972 the United States government had conducted a sick experiment based on faulty pretenses that deliberately infected 400 black males with syphilis, the men had limited to almost no knowledge of what was actually being done to them and were actively prevented from getting treatment. The scientific merits of this were non existent. The concept of Aids being spread among a population based on race without the subject's consent and scientific merit is not actually that far-fetched, but I don't agree with Wright on this. What I am saying is that it is not actually as preposterous as it sounds, and it is understandable that a person could believe this when you live in a country with such a thick history of racism. Research next time you jump to conclusions.

Posted by: A person | April 29, 2008 10:25 PM

I don't care, but if you really want to see some cool stuff, go to wynnco.com

Posted by: kevin | April 29, 2008 10:25 PM

YA WHAT ARE THOSE 8000 white folks mainly doing at that church

Shouldn't they be locked up?

Posted by: big church | April 29, 2008 10:23 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:23 PM

From a post above. You can tell this person is a loyal Fox watching Repugnican. Obviously didn't learn the verb threw. "I threw up when Bill O'Riley was through talking."

Political expediency.. Barack just through his pastor into orbit after driving over him in the name of getting elected.

Posted by: idak clone | April 29, 2008 10:21 PM

We could be spared by massive famine, floods, Britney Spears DUI's, Racy Teen Singer Photo's

Or the CUB could win the world series. lol

Posted by: I will pray | April 29, 2008 10:20 PM

Obama has known Reverend Wright for HOW LONG, and he's just now been offended by one of his speeches? What has he been doing all this time during church?

Posted by: Steve | April 29, 2008 10:20 PM

If there was a terd on the side of the road and a liberal on my plate, I would walk over to the side of the road and eat the terd. Liberals are destroying America.

Posted by: Sir Kevin Coleman of the Confederacy | April 29, 2008 10:18 PM

Get Attacked strike back

what hard to understand

for either of them

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:16 PM

There's no way this thing is over. Even if Wright keeps quiet and doesn't answer Obama back, the press will follow him until he blurts something out. Then it will be news all over again. And if what he says at that point is inflammatory (as it well might be), it will headline the news. Anyone who thinks this is going away is as naive as Obama claims he's been for the past 20 years.

Posted by: Vnd22 | April 29, 2008 10:16 PM

SENATOR Barack can call REV wRIGHT'S SPEECHES OUTRAGEOUS. THE FACT IS HE SAT FOR 20 YEARS IN HIS CHURCH, NEVER DID ANYTHING ABOUT REV WRIGHTS OUTRAGEOUS SPEECHES.NOW THAT HE IS RUNNIHG FOR THE HIGHEST OFFICE IN THE NATION HE DENOUNCES REV. WRIGHT. ALL I CAN SAY WHAT A SNAKE.

Posted by: H BIESER | April 29, 2008 10:15 PM

I think everyone who asserts Wright is a "wacko" really doesn't understand how most people operate.

Posted by: Meh | April 29, 2008 10:14 PM

Now we realizes its the DEFICIT STUPID I hope we vote for a canidate that will balance the budget to strengthen the dollar to help bring down oil food prices

rather than one that runs an endless deficit and high war spending

Posted by: its the deficit stupid | April 29, 2008 10:13 PM

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Bill Kristol, Charles Krauthammer, Rush Limbaugh, Pat Buchanan,
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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:12 PM

Hugs all around! Love! Hope! Smiles! Less hatred!

Posted by: Beej | April 29, 2008 10:11 PM

Go Hillary!

Posted by: Claire | April 29, 2008 10:11 PM

Well, now Obama just seems like a douche.

Posted by: Meh | April 29, 2008 10:11 PM

I have no problem with Wright. But, I do have a problem with those that are focusing on this rather than the real issues. Now, the U.S. is losing two wars, and is economically down the toilet...and the media is focused on an ex-pastor of one of the candidates.

...and the band played on, while the Titanic was sinking?

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:10 PM

rev Wrong Church

8000 people
mostly white

why do white folk living near the University of Chicago like crazy pastors?

anybody

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:09 PM

Using people to get into power - his Illinois Senate seat - then throwing them overboard?

The Obamistas claimed this was the preserve of the Clintons. Sounds like old politics to me.

HALF THE SOUTH SIDE KNOWS WRIGHT says these things, much less his parishioners. Grow up.

Phony as the day is long, he doesn't even know who he is. How is he going to run a country? There is no there there.

Posted by: Catherine | April 29, 2008 10:09 PM

Time to lynch all you white bigots to the nearest tree. You are the reason why Rev. Wright states what he does. Fools.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:09 PM

hokienation,do you mean like william jefferson? don't try to smear conservative principles because a bunch of rinos couldn't stand up to screaming crying democrats,or keep the country from being overrun. just because right couldn't survive in the cesspool doesn't mean its not right.

Posted by: gunclinger | April 29, 2008 10:09 PM

It is simply amazing that this Rev. Wright is STILL in the news!!!!!!!!!!!!

Every day the news proclaims ... "You'll never believe what Reverend Wright said today!"

50 Million (50,000,000) without health coverage in the ONLY COUNTRY not to see health care as a human right. 105,000 preventable health care deaths last year. And, what leads the news?

"What did Rev. Wright say today?" or "Do you think the Mily Cyrus photos were inappropriate?"

The media is a complete disgrace. And the only bigger disgraces are the seals who are stupid enough to SERIOUSLY discuss these issues on blogs.

Posted by: Jerry Grant | April 29, 2008 10:08 PM

You stupid liberals should have never faught against us. We told you the fed would get to big, but you wouldn't listen. Now look at the lies that you have created. Where is you beloved peice of crap Abraham Lincoln now? He started these lies and now your beloved Obama and Clinton will finish them.

Posted by: Sir Kevin Coleman of the Confederacy | April 29, 2008 10:08 PM

My dear readers. The fact is that Reverend Wright is a neocon plant put there over a 20 year time period for the very purpose of destroying the Democratic party. Like Wright, Louis Farrhakan is also a neocon plant, placed there for the successful purpose of creating sympathy for Israel by means of his fanatical and maniacal rantings which disgust intelligent citizens. They were both placed at about the same timeframe and you will notice their demagogic styles are the same.

All of the above facts will be exposed more soon.

Posted by: Pat Buchanan | April 29, 2008 10:08 PM

Oops make that AUTOBIOGRAPHICAL

Posted by: John | April 29, 2008 10:08 PM

So,uhhh, Obama used a quote from Rev Wright as the title of an AUTIOGRPHICAL BOOK, but he uhhhh didn't uhhhh 'realize' the uhhhh wacko stuff Wright says? Imagine the never ending trail of excuses if Obama made it to the White House. GW all over again, people.

Posted by: John | April 29, 2008 10:06 PM

Where did Jeremiah Wright get his degrees from? A Cracker Jack box? The man is not only arrogant but stupid. It's amazing who they'll give PhD's to.

Posted by: Bill | April 29, 2008 10:06 PM

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HILLARY VOTED FOR THE WAR

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4,000 U.S. SOLDIERS DEAD

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:06 PM

WE win together or die apart

i hope they are both on the ticker

Posted by: come together | April 29, 2008 10:05 PM

Wright has now had his 15 minutes of fame, now, please go away.
I voted not once but twice for the idiot we currently refer to as President. Shame on me!
If the three candidates were to all run, today, for President (McCain, Clinton and Obama), Obama gets my vote. If Billary ends up with the nod, I will have to take a harder (ugh) look at McCain.

Posted by: Noble Dog | April 29, 2008 10:05 PM

Hillary's people always have something or someone to blame: It is the caucus system. Maybe everyone is correct, but it isn't new this year, been around a long time and helped Bill Clinton become President. Can DNC do something to make the nominating system better? I'm sure. Cut time out about a year would be nice. She agreed the votes in FL and MI would not count before she realized she wouldn't have the nomination in Feb. Now those votes should count. Yes, the DNC has to come up with an answer to a problem that was caused by the state politicians, but why is it now Hillary feels the votes should count when initially she said the shouldn't.
Hillary has "35 years of experience" - let's see, she defended a couple of Black Panthers, worked with a couple of communist laywers, got fired for lying and hiding paperwork during the Nixon hearings, the dealings with the Rose Law firm, Whitewater,.........and then there is Bill Clinton. You can't choose your blood relatives, but for some reason she stood by her man after he had several flings, and evidently forgave him, and oobviously continues to forgive him for his money making from Colombia, ......... I could go on and on, but my point is because Obama knows 3 people others don't like, he is now the "bad" guy. Strange, isn't it? She is considered untrustworthy and dishonest by most of Americans, but Obama is the liar; she grew up middle class, daddy paid for college, has become a multimillionaire, but Obama is the elitist.
Obama has been ahead for several months but Hillary's folks feel he should withdraw. Oh, I forget, she "deserved" the nomination this years. Obviously, thousands disagree.
Hillary said, and you can't doubt anything she says, that Obama can beat McCain, but isn't it funny that nearly 30% of her people feel if she doesn't get the nomination, they will vote for McCain - sounds as childish as all of the other tripe they say.
Why can't we all work for a better system if it is needed AFTER the nomination, work for better times together, hopefully with Obama as President and get past this junk about "Obama know's so and so" and that means he is a terrible, lying, no good so and so.

Posted by: happygrammy | April 29, 2008 10:05 PM

Obama had 20 years to speak up. Now that his pastor is a racist and everyone now knows Obama is he wants to speak up. BOOHOO

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:05 PM

"There is nothing more dangerous than an idea if it is the only one you have"

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:04 PM

Talk about sound judgment.

Posted by: Akshay | April 29, 2008 10:03 PM

Hillary's people always have something or someone to blame: It is the caucus system. Maybe everyone is correct, but it isn't new this year, been around a long time and helped Bill Clinton become President. Can DNC do something to make the nominating system better? I'm sure. Cut time out about a year would be nice. She agreed the votes in FL and MI would not count before she realized she wouldn't have the nomination in Feb. Now those votes should count. Yes, the DNC has to come up with an answer to a problem that was caused by the state politicians, but why is it now Hillary feels the votes should count when initially she said the shouldn't.
Hillary has "35 years of experience" - let's see, she defended a couple of Black Panthers, worked with a couple of communist laywers, got fired for lying and hiding paperwork during the Nixon hearings, the dealings with the Rose Law firm, Whitewater,.........and then there is Bill Clinton. You can't choose your blood relatives, but for some reason she stood by her man after he had several flings, and evidently forgave him, and oobviously continues to forgive him for his money making from Colombia, ......... I could go on and on, but my point is because Obama knows 3 people others don't like, he is now the "bad" guy. Strange, isn't it? She is considered untrustworthy and dishonest by most of Americans, but Obama is the liar; she grew up middle class, daddy paid for college, has become a multimillionaire, but Obama is the elitist.
Obama has been ahead for several months but Hillary's folks feel he should withdraw. Oh, I forget, she "deserved" the nomination this years. Obviously, thousands disagree.
Hillary said, and you can't doubt anything she says, that Obama can beat McCain, but isn't it funny that nearly 30% of her people feel if she doesn't get the nomination, they will vote for McCain - sounds as childish as all of the other tripe they say.
Why can't we all work for a better system if it is needed AFTER the nomination, work for better times together, hopefully with Obama as President and get past this junk about "Obama know's so and so" and that means he is a terrible, lying, no good so and so.

Posted by: happygrammy | April 29, 2008 10:03 PM

OBAMA supporters LOVE Hillary

and would never leave there party no matter what happens
is they love America

go OBAMA

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:03 PM

fred sanford looked like he was having a pretty good time here in america.

Posted by: gunclinger | April 29, 2008 10:03 PM

Judging from these responses it seems the Post has a strong contingent of brainwashed conservative-talk-show listeners. The media continues to push these events and the American public continues to become distracted from the important social issues. Maybe these comments suggest the public is content with political corruption and the oppressive calculated approaches of the recent past.

'The is nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come.'

Posted by: OR_HokieNation | April 29, 2008 10:02 PM

No he didnt voted for the war and he didnt voted for many more things cause he dont have guts to vote for anything

Posted by: Mike | April 29, 2008 10:02 PM

N E O C O N S

F O R

C L I N T O N

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William (Bill) Kristol; Editor of the Weekly Standard, key pusher for invading Iraq, talking about Hillary Clinton:

"I like to be on Hillary's side"

"She is a good candidate"

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"I am with her. I am with her"


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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352785,00.html
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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:02 PM

Hillary is perfect in all aspects has a wonderful family and loving husband
everyone but the Great Senator Robert Bird voted for the War

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:01 PM

OBAMA SUPPORTERS ARE SECRETLY WORKING FOR MCCAIN!!!

WHY ELSE WOULD THEY BE TRASHING HILLARY CLINTON, THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:01 PM

If all of this keeps up, my beloved Confederacy will be able to win a party. I love my country, but mor than that, I love my state, but more than that, I love my county, but more than that, I love my home. I will cling to guns and religion and you liberals will destroy this country and give real logical people a leg up. Vote for Obama, vote for clinton, I do not care. They, just like all politicians are making fools out of you.

Posted by: kevin coleman south carolina | April 29, 2008 10:00 PM

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N E O C O N S

F O R

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Bill Kristol, Charles Krauthammer, Rush Limbaugh, Pat Buchanan,
Joe Lieberman, Rupert Murdoch, Dick Cheney, Karl Rove.......

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:59 PM

Obama's got ROCKS in his head, and so do his supporters. Obama is sinking like a ROCK.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:59 PM

FOR ALL YOU IDIOTS THAT SAY HILLARY VOTED FOR THE WAR?????SHE WAS LIED TO US LIKE THE REST OF US>>SHE WAS TOLD THERE WAS WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION>>OBAMA LIED TO YOU AND EVERYONE SAYING HE DID NOT VOTE FOR THE WAR>....>HE WAS NOT IN THE SENATE TO VOTE FOR THE WAR.????!!!!...he left out that part as his typical way to cloud the issue when he is lying >>AND OBAMA VOTED EXACTLY AS HILLARY TO FUND THE WAR WHEN HE GOT IN THE SENATE!!!>>ADD THE OTHER 50 lies OBAMA TOLD see POLITICAL FORUM.COM ELECTIONS AND CAMPAIGNS BY LATISHA>>>AND YOU IGNORANT PEOPLE>>THE CLINTONS HAD THE LONGEST PEACE KEEPING TIME IN THE HISTORY OF ANY PRESIDENCY!!!!!!!!!!!!>>>AND THE BIGGEST ECONOMIC GAIN OF ANY PRESIDENCY IN OUR HISTORY >>>GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!!! >>YOU WERE GOING TO BE VOTING IN A PROBLEM WORSE THAN 911 with your ignorance..HILLARY WINNING ALL POLLS IN INDIANA >>GO HILLARY !!!!

Posted by: ByeObama | April 29, 2008 9:58 PM

Hillary is saint a perfect humble poor white girl from penn

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:58 PM

About 70% of what Wright says is true and as he tossed him off the bridge, Obama should have had the decency to acknowledge that Rev. Wright isn't completely out of the ball park. There are serious social and racial issues in the U.S., a lot of justified anger, and the weekly massacres of black youths by black youths in our cities that is a national crisis.

People have been calling for Hillary to withdraw from the race. Well, the candidate who should withdraw is Obama before he completely shreds the Democratic hopes for the presidency.

With Hillary, the Democrats have a chance to win the White House. With Obama, the Dems are toast. Make that a baloney sandwich on toast.

Posted by: Jay | April 29, 2008 9:58 PM

WRIGHT is so WRONG. Im glad Obama distance himself , just in time for my donation. Obama ROCKS!

Posted by: 9081771 | April 29, 2008 9:58 PM

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... if you believe this, than you'll believe anything!

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:58 PM

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... every time he had a chance to vote in the Senate.
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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:57 PM

if you are reading this you are emotionally disturbed and have no real reason for existence like myself

god please take us out of our misery

Posted by: IF YOU ARE READING THIS | April 29, 2008 9:56 PM

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....................OBAMA VOTED FOR THE WAR

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... if you believe a single word that Obama says, then you'll believe anything!

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:56 PM

So NOW he throws Wright under the bus with Grandma?

Only after Wright finally tells the truth about ONE thing...Obamalama is a liar and saying "what he needs to say" to get elected.

bye bye Barry the liar...

Posted by: Typical White Person | April 29, 2008 9:56 PM

And just why would Gore get on board??
The Clintons are the reason that he is not president.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:56 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:55 PM

IF Obama does not win/nor will CLINTON. I would take 8 more years of BUSH/McCain before I vote for HILLARY and so are a lot of friends, family members, co-workers, nephews, nieces, and religious supporters.

GOOD night

Posted

Posted by: obama08 | April 29, 2008 9:55 PM

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... if you believe this, than you'll believe anything!

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:54 PM

BUT HE WAS ONLY GIVEN 2/3 OF A VOTE AND THE REST WENT TO SUPER DELEGATES

Posted by: HA HA | April 29, 2008 9:54 PM

Wow, Obama isn't the problem. However in reading these posts I see our country is in a lot of trouble.

Posted by: Dave | April 29, 2008 9:54 PM

His next book:

"The Audacity of Hoping that Americans Will Believe Anything"

Posted by: JKL | April 29, 2008 9:54 PM

IF Obama does not win/nor will CLINTON. I would take 8 more years of BUSH/McCain before I vote for HILLARY and so are a lot of friends, family members, co-workers, nephews, nieces, and religious supporters.

GOOD night

Posted by: KASSANDRA | April 29, 2008 9:54 PM

Rave on idiots. Are you sure you all are democrats? You have destroyed your top two candidates and have no one left.

Senator McCain doesn't have to lift a finger and he will be the next president, and you democrats did it to yourselves.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:54 PM

I have read these comments and watched Hard Ball and it seems that the consensus of Obama supporters with regard to Rev. Wright is that he is deliberately trying to sabatoge the Obama campaign.

I think this is a false portrayal of Wright's intentions. I have listened to his complete remarks before the NPC from Monday. Obama's landmark speech on race delivered in Philadelphia is not much different from Wright's remarks at the NPC from Monday, there were just two different styles delivering the same message.

I do not think Wright is trying to sabatage Obama, but he is trying to save him from the hypocracy to which Obama's campaign and his personal ambition to become President is leading Obama.

Wright is Obama's spiritual mentor. We now know what Wright taught Obama. We know that Obama was led to Wright by his wife Michelle who seems to be a soul mate to Wright (read her thesis paper).

Obama's throwing Wright under the bus now is clearly too late. Who will believe Obama this time?? First Obama denied knowledge of these ideas of Wright, then he said he knew about them and tried to explain them, saying that he would never desert Wright.

And now that Wright is saying the same things again, Obama again "pivots" and this time renounces Wright. Why? His poll numbers are dropping. North Carolina is now in single digits and closing. If Obama loses North Carolina, he is done. Period.

So, out of political expediency, he is ditching the Rev. But the Rev knows better. He knows what he taught Obama and I am sure that he is apalled that Obama has turned his back on everything in pursuit of his political ambition.

Sabatoge Obama?? No, Wright is trying to save Obama's soul.

And as for Chris Matthews, he calls it sabatoge because he sees everything through a political spectrum. To call Wright's speech a catastrophe is a racist thing to do. Wright mere explained that Blacks are different from Whites, not deficient.

And in all of this, where is the true Obama? Who is the man? Is he the man that Wright taught, who learned at the Master's knee? Or is he the creature of David Axelrod? Or is he the personification of his wife's ambitions to overcome White society by achieving its highest political prize.

Who is Barak Obama??

Posted by: Beiruti | April 29, 2008 9:54 PM

The superdelegates were created for just exactly this type of problem. It's unthinkable to me that we are allowing college kids to decide who the next president is. Wake up people Obama is not ready to be president. Obama is so desperate to be president that he couldn't wait until he had finished even one term as a US Senator. Obama needs to go back to the Senate and serve a couple of terms and clean up some of his past then come back and run for president after he has gained a little more life experience.

Posted by: sd | April 29, 2008 9:54 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:53 PM

Obama's cult followers are really creepy.
They love their "dear leader" no matter what he does. They act like this is North Korea, Mao's China, or somewhere in the old Eastern Block.

What drugs does Obama put in the kool-aid these kids are drinking?

It's like they're on a mixture of LSD and MDMA.

They're truly creepy.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:51 PM

HILLARY VOTED to 4000+ US ARMY DEATHS and 1 Millions IRAQI Deaths and $4 GAS by VOTING "4" IRAQ WAR.

http://icasualties.org/oif/

Posted by: kg | April 29, 2008 9:51 PM

Its really sad that Obama betrayed his best friend rev Right.Well its too lil too late for lil boy anyway.Its over

Posted by: Mike | April 29, 2008 9:51 PM

Funny to read all you posters who jump on this one. "Obama had 20 years to denounce... etc." The media loves you all, as you bite every time they throw this bait out there. Issues, please! Healthcare, economy, war... oh wait, talking about the details of policy is too boring for you. So be a sheep, get indignant, and vote for Hillary or McCain.

Posted by: Patriot | April 29, 2008 9:50 PM

"You know Michelle doesn't like the US: "never been proud of my country." I'm glad these two arrogant people have had their vulnerabilities exposed."

I am white and educated and at this time, I am not proud of my country either.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:50 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:50 PM

The CLINTONS will do ANYTHING TO WIN. Everyone knows Rev. Dr. Barbara Reynolds SUPPORTS Clinton and is responsible for WRIGHT comments. See NY Daily Post.

What some people will do for $
KARAMA IS A BEETCH, WRIGHT

Posted by: kassandra | April 29, 2008 9:50 PM

What Obama forgot to say:

"In all the 20 years I have intimately known Rev. Wright, this is the first time he has ever said anything like this. I never knew he admired America's most famous Black Muslim. I am shocked!"
...
"The Republicans know, of course, that I'm lying like a Persian rug; but there are enough hardcore liberals still kicking that will buy my story and eat whatever crap I feed them, so I'll keep running. Let's Move On to health care."

Posted by: Harry | April 29, 2008 9:49 PM

HILLARY CLINTON WINNING ALL INDIANA POLLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT GOD DA-- AMERICA WITH OBAMA IN THE WRIGHT HOUSE>....>GOD BLESS AMERICA WITH THE CLINTONS IN THE WHITE HOUSE>>THEY HOLD THE BIGGEST PEACE KEEPING TIME OF ANY PRESIDENCY AND THE BIGGEST ECONOMIC GROWTH OF ANY PRESIDENCY!!!! YA!!!!!!!!!!! HILLARY 2008...THANK YOU AMERICA FOR SEEING THE LIGHT!! HILLARY HILLARY HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: ByeObama | April 29, 2008 9:49 PM

Obama will lose the remaining primaries by a landslide (except possibly NC, because its got such a high percentage of AA's) and drop out.

Obama is toast.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:49 PM

"Give it up. She's going to be the Democratic Candidate. Its either her or McCain."

Don't be too sure, if the super delegates are not super dumb, neither Clinton or Obama will be the candidate. The democrats have seen to that. It will go past the first vote and then somebody else will be nominated in the convention. Someone who might win after the democrats have gotten through with their top two candidates. Otherwise it is McCain in an landslide. The super delegates are not dumb.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:47 PM

MD --

I AND EVERY OTHER CLINTON SUPPORTER IS LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING OBAMA CRUSHED.

WE CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE HIM AND HIS ARROGANT SUPPORTERS CUT DOWN TO SIZE.

YOU'VE TRIED TO DO A "HOSTILE TAKE-OVER" OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

YOU'VE FAILED.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:46 PM

As long as the Rev.'s hateful energy was turned on white people, Obama was cool with it. When he realized he didn't control the Rev. either, then that hatred became a problem. You know Michelle doesn't like the US: "never been proud of my country." I'm glad these two arrogant people have had their vulnerabilities exposed. The Clintons already were. I suppose McCain is next.

Posted by: mclovin | April 29, 2008 9:44 PM

Rev. Wright is not on the ballot.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:42 PM

Judging by the large number of posts here I would guess that people have finally discovered that Obama is not the sweet innocent choir boy that he looks like. Obama is just one more corrupt politician tyring to spin his association with Wright in a postive way.Very nice to denounce Wright now that there is absolutly no way to deny that you heard the hateful preaching of this lunatic that you call your "spiritual leader".

Posted by: 220 | April 29, 2008 9:42 PM

The whole argument that Wright is not the candidate so this is being blown out of proportion does not work. Obama has held him up, through words and actions, as a mentor and otherwise critical person in his life. THIS is the crux of the issue . . . Obama's credibility and judgement . . . and maybe even some of his own fringe beliefs. I know people go to church for lots of reasons but you'd have to be deaf and dumb to miss that Wright is an extremist. Not only did Obama not leave the church, he embraced this guy and stayed for TWENTY YEARS!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:42 PM

For those idiots that say "there's just one snipit" -- Do your research. There are so many different clips from different sermons on YouTube its not even funny. Wright came out with a whole series of DVD's for goodness sake. For Obama supporters attacking Hillary -- Give it up. She's going to be the Democratic Candidate. Its either her or McCain.

OBAMA WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT.

YOU CAN TAKE THAT TO THE BANK.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:42 PM

Two educated leaders of the community, black and proficient in speaking ability.
One, Barak Obama, with a vision of being the first of his race to lead the free world, willing to sacrifice all time and effort in an attempt to correct the mistakes of 8 years of incompetence and failure during the Bush administration.
The other, Jeremiah Wright, seemingly on a mission to destroy any chance for the success of the Obama campaign. Determined to undermine and torpedo all possibility for a man from his own church to become the nominee.
We will know very soon if and when Reverend Wright continues his appearances and speeches.

Posted by: motiv8ed | April 29, 2008 9:41 PM

Today, in this country, you can destroy a man/woman in the public forum by making a false accusation against that person which will be dutifully and woefully parroted by the press under the guise of 'vetting' someone's character. In fact, the media, now routinely, is complicit in repeated character assassination.

One's words can be easily misquoted, misrepresented, distorted and denounced and broadcast in damning snippets around the world and across the Internet while the truth of one's statements are buried under an avalanche of oft-repeated, intentionally amplified lies.

It is next to impossible to defend oneself against critical and destructive attacks when the accused has no platform where he or she can expect the intended audience to listen fully, carefully and open-mindedly. The press snaps to attention and gleefully plays a full-throated game of 'gotcha'.

Even when someone is able to mount a reasoned public defense, the chattering mob of bogus commentators pull phrases out of context and distort the true intent of the statement to service their own self-interest.

A case in point is the public pillory of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. For months his past words have been truncated, misquoted, distorted and purposely misrepresented. He has been labeled as an anti-patriotic, hate-mongering racist. In fact, he is a thoughtful, learned, passionate advocate for the downtrodden.

I watched the complete Bill Moyers interview with Rev. Jeremiah Wright, extended clips of the reverend's 'controversial' sermons, and Rev. Wright's recent speeches to the NAACP and Washington Press Club. He didn't say ONE thing that wasn't true. He talked about governments, this one included, that have not always done the 'right thing' (my words, not his). He drew our attention to the genocide of Native Americans, the enslavement of African-Americans, the internment of Japanese-Americans, and the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki that killed untold numbers of civilians. He noted that America develops, manufactures and sells chemical and biological weapons (weapons of mass destruction). He lamented the subversion of 'other' cultures by the dominant White Anglo-Saxon power holders. And he comically demonstrated that different cultures learn, think and act differently - in their religious practices and social interactions. All, reasoned and incontrovertible truths.

But, today, under political pressure, and after the press has demonized the man, Barack Obama has thrown his former pastor under the bus and backed up over him.

I'm disheartened by the current turn of events and state of public discourse. When the Rev. Wright was first condemned by the political Right, Obama gave a challenging speech in Philadelphia calling for a national conversation about race in America. That was the right thing to do. But, instead of calm, deliberate dialogue between people of different skin color, religious beliefs or cultural heritage, we continue to demean and suppress other people out of ignorance and a refusal to even hear or understand their opposing points of view.

Thoughtful dialogue is being drowned out by the loud barrage of the righteous mob.

Again, I plead to you, to seek out the truth. Listen, learn, understand, question and then make up your mind. When you find a person or opinion contrary to yours, don't go on the attack, or even on the defensive. Hear them out. Understanding and respect are the ways to peace. Know what you stand for and what you oppose. But, more importantly, know why.

When you see or hear someone being so vociferously and unrelentingly attacked, ask why. Investigate who is behind the assault. Whose interests are being jeopardized? Whose position and power are being threatened? Who wants to drown out the contrary voice and why?

And, finally, don't be afraid to listen to other voices. Seek out all viewpoints. Even if the speakers' language is incendiary, even if their ideas are challenging, even if their passionate expressions make you uncomfortable, they may be speaking the truth.

Posted by: David Guilbault | April 29, 2008 9:40 PM

"Obama will Say Anything or Do Anything to Be President !!!.....P.S. You can't wallow with the likes of Rev. Wright, Antoin "Tony" Rezko and Louis Farrakhan and not get dirty !!!"

Hmmm, at least he's not on trial. Hillary is, that's case number BC304174 in Los Angeles Superior Court. Look it up.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:39 PM

I think it's high time that Barrack Obama let the public know his true feelings. You can't tell me that he knew this man for 20 years and didn't think the same way Wright did.
Barrack Obama needs to take full responsibility for this even though it's already cost him the election.
I would never feel comfortable voting for anyone who was a memeber of this church that was so mean spirited.

Posted by: Louis | April 29, 2008 9:39 PM

That's case number BC304174 in the Los Angeles Superior Court.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:37 PM

For those of you who are saying that Barack is 20 years too late in denouncing Rev. Wright, answer this:

1) If Wright was saying such blasphemous things for twenty years - then how come there is only one snippet from one sermon?

2) How come there is no videotaped evidence that Obama was sitting in the CHURCH, at this or any other time that type of message was preached?

Posted by: naiima | April 29, 2008 9:37 PM

This is Absolutely Ridiculous !! .....It is what it is...Wright is who he is and says what he believes and wants to say....Barrack Omits Wright has been a Mentor to Him for 20 Years......THATS THE ISSUE !! .....Obama, who recently said he could no more disown Wright than he could the black community.... He pretty much disowned Wright today...6 weeks ago he said Wright was like Family and could not denounce him....Whats Changed ?.....NOTHING ......Obama will Say Anything or Do Anything to Be President !!!.....P.S. You can't wallow with the likes of Rev. Wright, Antoin "Tony" Rezko and Louis Farrakhan and not get dirty !!!

Posted by: I Denounce Rev. Wright !! ( Wink Wink ) | April 29, 2008 9:36 PM

Quote: "YOU WILL PAY FOR WHAT YOU DID TO THE CLINTONS."

No, the upcoming Clinton fraud trial will take good care of that.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:35 PM

Obama's strong denunciation is a little too late. Wright is not saying anything new. It's nothing more than repetitions of previous comments. Obama's response:

"The fact that Reverend Wright would think that somehow it was appropriate to command the stage for three or four consecutive days in the midst of this major debate is something that not only makes me angry, but also saddens me"

Clearly, Obama is not concerned that it's happening; he is worried that it's happening RIGHT NOW when his nomination is at risk. These aren't new comments, then, why didn't Obama react this way before?

Posted by: EGGArgost | April 29, 2008 9:34 PM

Democrats are toast. Unlesss there is a miracle, Obama is permenantly damaged as far as the middle America is concerned. If Hillary wins nomination by last minute "back room deals," Blacks and youth will be turned off. McCain will win unless he shoots his own foot somehow. How stupid is the Jeremiah Wright guy!!?

Posted by: noodleman | April 29, 2008 9:33 PM

GONZO --

OBAMA IS FAR MORE POLARIZING THAN HILLARY.

YOU OBAMA SUPPORTERS HAVE NO IDEA HOW ANGRY THE REST OF AMERICA IS WITH HIM AND WITH YOU.

Posted by: | April 29, 2008 9:17 PM
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No We, it's you who is angry with Obama and his supporters. I'm beginning to think that it's time to have WAPO seeking you out for emergency theraphy. Stop thinking you are the voice of ALL of America. You have one vote we, not the vote of all non-Obama supporters. You're obviously not in the majority, otherwise your candidate would be leading in delegates. Get over yourself, you're no we, you're a me, lol.

Posted by: MD Voter | April 29, 2008 9:30 PM


Why don;t you just google for it ebonyflash??

What, don't know how??

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:30 PM

Quote:" OBAMA SUPPORTERS --

YOU HAVE TURNED US INTO HARDENED ENEMIES.

YOU WILL PAY FOR WHAT YOU DID TO THE CLINTONS."

You are hilarious and pulling our leg. if not, you are crazy. Either way:
Have a good evening.


Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:28 PM

I want somebody to tell me about the shooting death of the choir director at Trinity Church in Dec,2007!!!! I am not going to blog anymore until I can get answer.
NOTICE!!!!
I will check for a resoponse to this question in exactly 30 minutes and hope that I can get a response to this. If you have it send it at precisely 10:05 P.M.

Posted by: Ebonyflash | April 29, 2008 9:28 PM

No name responder:

I don't know what rock you live under but all republicans and most independents think Hillary is the anti-christ. Obama on the other hand, has wooed independents and many republicans like no democrat has since FDR or JFK. I happen to like and respect Hillary, however, she is a one-way ticket to four more year of the GOP oligarchy.

Posted by: Dr. Gonzo | April 29, 2008 9:25 PM

Jeremaiea, you have a stupid name & you sound like a beach ( a female vagabond dog).

OBAMA WE LOVE YOU !!! This scandal is a good test for you , will make you a better man/human and president :) DON'T GIVE UP ON US ...

Posted by: independent thinker | April 29, 2008 9:24 PM

Obama - outraged, saddened.

Stupid, hypocritical, ambitious, callous, two-faced phony.

Posted by: Lenny Wright | April 29, 2008 9:23 PM

"YOU OBAMA SUPPORTERS HAVE NO IDEA HOW ANGRY THE REST OF AMERICA IS WITH HIM AND WITH YOU."

Oh yes, they do. And the Clinton supporters feel the same way about Obama. And you are all democrats. And that is the reason that McCain is the next president. It's doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure that out.
That is hilarious.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:23 PM

Please

I need someones help please....I need a FACT CHECKER, Sen. Obama sat on stage with the ladies of the View a few weeks ago and said that HE DID consider Wright his mentor and friend.

He now is now giving a speech in Winston Salem saying just the opposite. He will not come to Raleigh here either and have an open discussion/debate with Hillary. Yes there have been a lot of debates, but living in NC it is nice to be heard for once and we welcome a debate.

What is the saying? Day late, dollar short!

I really thought we might have had a chance for change instead of pretty speeches and bad acting.

Oh yes as someone spoke earlier, get the wife out of the picture.

And Hillary did acknowledge her husbands blow job, but thats not what caused the AIDS virus.

By the way Rev. Wright, the AIDS thing was invented by the government for the gays. Remember when people actually were that ignorant to call it the gay disease? Get another line!

Posted by: Amie | April 29, 2008 9:21 PM

Most level headed Hillary supporters would support Obama is he recieved the nomination. Most Obama supporters would support Hillary if the roles were reversed.
TO THE ALL CAPS HATERS,SUPPORTERS OF EITHER

You
Are the minority
You are the fear mongers Bill Clinton warned us about
You are the angry ones
You are the bigots
You are the sexist mysogonistic trolls
You are Probably GOP's desperate to win.
You are the past.
YOU are responsible for the distraction from meaningful issues facing Americans.
YOU

LOOK LIKE FOOLS.
You arent convincing anyone.
You arent scaring us.
Hillary OR Obama would make a fine president.
FEAR
FEAR
FEAR
Bill Clinton in 2004:
"Now one of Clinton's Laws of Politics is
this: If one candidate's trying to scare
you and the other one's trying to get you
to think; if one candidate's appealing to
your fears and the other one's appealing
to your hopes, you better vote for the
person who wants you to think and hope.
That's the best."

Posted by: feastorafamine | April 29, 2008 9:21 PM

WE'D LIKE TO SEE HILLARY BE PRESIDENT, BUT ITS BIGGER THAN THAT NOW.

WE WANT TO SEE OBAMA LOSE MORE THAN WE WANT TO SEE HER WIN.

Posted by: | April 29, 2008 9:12 PM
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There you go Ms. "We", everything is "BIGGER" when it comes to you. I'm beginning to think that all the "we's" in your camp are simply your multiple "we" personalities, lol. Face it Ms. We, you don't want Obama to lose as much as you want Hillary to win; the fact is, you can't see a path to her winning so you like your candidate Hillary is bent on making certain that Obama loses. Well, what does that get you? President McCain? So what; so tell your band of We's that it's o.k., they can come out now, lol.

Posted by: MD Voter | April 29, 2008 9:21 PM

Now let's see: the former minister of Bill and Hillary Clinton was convicted of child molestation today. Where is the media on this felon? Clintons are too white now? (They claimed they were sooo black in the 90's). McCain's minister Hagee said: " All hurricanes are acts of God, because God controls the heavens. I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God, and they are -- were recipients of the judgment of God for that." Where is the media on this lunatic? Oh yeah, Grampa McCain wears teflon.
Get serious! Ask yourself why only Obama's minister matters! Or continue to be blind to the others. Your choice.

Posted by: albode | April 29, 2008 9:20 PM

Precious:
So you are proud of a guy who is willing to throw his pastor, his grandma and maybe even you under the bus! This makeshim Presidential? If that's the case then every President we've had over the history of this country was just like that right? So what you are saying is that any BUM can be President....right?

Posted by: Ebonyflash | April 29, 2008 9:20 PM

If my brother of 27 years murders somebody, does that make me a murderer by association?

Posted by: vmunikoti | April 29, 2008 9:19 PM

Why has no one mentioned that the Clintons used Rev. Wright as their marriage counselor after the Monica Lewinsky incident? Why doesn't the media pick up on that tid-bit?

Posted by: Val | April 29, 2008 9:17 PM

This dog won't hunt Obama. If the Obama campaign thinks that they can spin this now they are sadly mistaken. I hope everyone in Indiana and North Carolina can now see this man for who he really is.... just another corrupt politican that wants to be president because he thinks it would be a cool gig.

Posted by: MSB | April 29, 2008 9:17 PM

GONZO --

OBAMA IS FAR MORE POLARIZING THAN HILLARY.

YOU OBAMA SUPPORTERS HAVE NO IDEA HOW ANGRY THE REST OF AMERICA IS WITH HIM AND WITH YOU.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:17 PM

Hi
First time commenting but felt the need. I truly am divided between Hillary and Obama. I love what Obama represents and I dont believe in " guilt by association" I have read alot of comments on this board and have to say that the ones that keep talking about Rush and his " operation Chaos" are what is wrong with this country. You want to see the worst instead of trying to strive for the best. The cynical thinking and the enjoyment of peoples pain is what is wrong with the republican party. Instead of trying to work on problems, they love to play the blame game.

Posted by: Shane Hamby | April 29, 2008 9:16 PM

I don't give a damn what Obama says or does about his pastor. Of course he was pandering, thats what politicians must do. He was pandering when he claimed to be so involved with religion in the first place. Everyone one knows if you want to get elected to public office you better bring it with the J.C. love. The bottom line is: who is really going to bring an end to the GOP reign of ignorance? Obama, or the Hilldog? The fresh, new, inspiring figure who has politcially turned on a whole new generation, or a candidate who is possibly the most polarizing, stigmatized figure in modern politics?

Posted by: Dr. Gonzo | April 29, 2008 9:15 PM

RE: CASE NUMBER

WAIT UNTIL OBAMA IS INDICTED IN CHICAGO.

HE'S GOING AWAY FOR A LONG TIME, AND ITS TO THE "BIG HOUSE" NOT THE "WHITE HOUSE"

OBAMA WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT.

WITH LUCK, HE'LL SPEND HIS LIFE BEHIND BARS.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:15 PM

Fareed Zakaria
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McCain's Radical Foreign Policy
Amid the din of the dueling Democrats, people seem to have forgotten about that other guy in the presidential race-you know, John McCain. McCain is said to be benefiting from this politically because his rivals are tearing each other apart. In fact, few people are paying much attention to what the Republican nominee is saying, or subjecting it to any serious scrutiny.

On March 26, McCain gave a speech on foreign policy in Los Angeles that was billed as his most comprehensive statement on the subject. It contained within it the most radical idea put forward by a major candidate for the presidency in 25 years. Yet almost no one noticed.

In his speech McCain proposed that the United States expel Russia from the G8, the group of advanced industrial countries. Moscow was included in this body in the 1990s to recognize and reward it for peacefully ending the cold war on Western terms, dismantling the Soviet empire and withdrawing from large chunks of the old Russian Empire as well. McCain also proposed that the United States should expand the G8 by taking in India and Brazil-but pointedly excluded China from the councils of power.

We have spent months debating Barack Obama's suggestion that he might, under some circumstances, meet with Iranians and Venezuelans. It is a sign of what is wrong with the foreign-policy debate that this idea is treated as a revolution in U.S. policy while McCain's proposal has barely registered. What McCain has announced is momentous-that the United States should adopt a policy of active exclusion and hostility toward two major global powers. It would reverse a decades-old bipartisan American policy of integrating these two countries into the global order, a policy that began under Richard Nixon (with Beijing) and continued under Ronald Reagan (with Moscow). It is a policy that would alienate many countries in Europe and Asia who would see it as an attempt by Washington to begin a new cold war.

I write this with sadness because I greatly admire John McCain, a man of intelligence, honor and enormous personal and political courage. I also agree with much of what else he said in that speech in Los Angeles. But in recent years, McCain has turned into a foreign-policy schizophrenic, alternating between neoconservative posturing and realist common sense. His speech reads like it was written by two very different people, each one given an allotment of a few paragraphs on every topic.

The neoconservative vision within the speech is essentially an affirmation of ideology. Not only does it declare war on Russia and China, it places the United States in active opposition to all nondemocracies. It proposes a League of Democracies, which would presumably play the role that the United Nations now does, except that all nondemocracies would be cast outside the pale. The approach lacks any strategic framework. What would be the gain from so alienating two great powers? How would the League of Democracies fight terrorism while excluding countries like Jordan, Morocco, Egypt and Singapore? What would be the gain to the average American to lessen our influence with Saudi Arabia, the central banker of oil, in a world in which we are still crucially dependent on that energy source?

The single most important security problem that the United States faces is securing loose nuclear materials. A terrorist group can pose an existential threat to the global order only by getting hold of such material. We also have an interest in stopping proliferation, particularly by rogue regimes like Iran and North Korea. To achieve both of these core objectives-which would make American safe and the world more secure-we need Russian cooperation. How fulsome is that likely to be if we gratuitously initiate hostilities with Moscow? Dissing dictators might make for a stirring speech, but ordinary Americans will have to live with the complications after the applause dies down.

To reorder the G8 without China would be particularly bizarre. The G8 was created to help coordinate problems of the emerging global economy. Every day these problems multiply-involving trade, pollution, currencies-and are in greater need of coordination. To have a body that attempts to do this but excludes the world's second largest economy is to condemn it to failure and irrelevance. International groups are not cheerleading bodies but exist to help solve pressing global crises. Excluding countries won't make the problems go away.

McCain appears to think that he can magically unite the two main strands in the Republican foreign-policy establishment. But he can't. This is not about personalities but about two philosophically divergent views of international affairs. Put together, they will produce infighting and incoherence. We have seen this movie before. We have watched an American president unable to choose between his ideologically driven vice president and his pragmatic secretary of State-and the result was the catastrophe of George W. Bush's first term. Twenty-five years earlier, we watched another president who believed that he could encompass the entire spectrum of foreign policy. He, too, gave speeches that were drafted by advisers with divergent world views: in that case, Cyrus Vance and Zbigniew Brzezinski. It led to the paralyzing internal battles of the Carter years. Does John McCain want to try this experiment one more time?

Posted by Fareed Zakaria on April 28, 2008 7:13 AM

Comments (50)
doctor t:
Hi-
The reason nobody payed this proposal any attention is that it is so nuts. A simple sop to the anti-UN group, he appears that he would like to substitute the world with a fantasy world (like fantasy baseball) of "people like us". In the general election, I hope the other major and a bunch of the minor ones will put this back on the main burner to characterize McKie as the Lyndon Larouche of the present election.

Posted April 29, 2008 3:23 PM

Posted on April 29, 2008 15:23

HUSSEIN ELSHIBINI :
There is no doubt that the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan against the will of its people led to the demotivation of the military , exhaustion of the economy and ultimately collapse of the Soviet Empire.
This should be compared with the present American occupation ( officially called "liberation") of Iraq. After five years the actual results are as follows : a divided pro-American government whose authority does not extend beyond the so-called "Green Zone" , several thousands of American troops have lost their life , tens of thousands are disabled for life , and hundreds of thousands are presently suffering from post traumatic stress disorder. The cost of this war is having a clear impact on the American economy. I hope that the next American Administration would be responsible enough to admit that there is no country, whatever its might, with inexhaustible resources. Such a policy would be of great benefit to the US and the world as well.

Posted April 29, 2008 1:53 PM

Posted on April 29, 2008 13:53

SA:
This presidential campaign cycle has led me to lose all respect for the so-called mainstream media. It's shocking that such a proposal from McCain is ignored by the MSM. Their priorities are so skewed, it's beyond comprehension. Thank you very much for pointing out McCain's statement to us.

What happened to the McCain of 2000? This 2008 version bears no likeness I can detect.


Posted April 29, 2008 1:38 PM

Posted on April 29, 2008 13:38

Bob:
If McCain's point is that the world's democracies need a forum, any forum, to meet, discuss, and air their views, where their expression of views will not be distorted by the participation of dictatorships like Russian and China, then I strongly agree.

Perhaps NATO could be reenvisioned to become a global organization and fill this role.

Russian and China did not invite the US to participate in their Shanghai Council, or whatever it's called.

Fareed, you're grasping at straws.


Posted April 29, 2008 1:35 PM

Posted on April 29, 2008 13:35

Neocon Empire:
Why can't these politicians understand that the best way to promote democracy is to live well rather than going around invading other countries while burying our country under mountains of debts? The Soviet empire collapsed because we showed the Russians that we were far wealthier and happier under a capitalistic democracy than they could ever be under a Communist dictatorship. Now, after 8 years of neocon rule, we are broke trying to impose our values on the world. The Chinese are laughing at us.

Posted April 29, 2008 1:34 PM

Posted on April 29, 2008 13:34

counfounded by our leaders:
DAE,You left out John F (got us into Vietnam, and shagged everyone but his wife) Kennedy, Jimmy (blundering through foriegn policy, and attacked Iran and failed) Carter, and William Jefferson (bombing childrens pharmaceutical plants, shagged his secretary, and several of his aides all committed "suicide") Clinton.
You're right. When you look at these Presidents, it just makes you shudder at the depths of ineptitude, unfaithfulness, and criminal behavior.

Posted April 29, 2008 12:36 PM

Posted on April 29, 2008 12:36

MGLoraine:
One can only conclude that main-stream media is still doing the bidding of the Cheney White House. McCain goes around spouting absurd, bombastic nonsense like this every day, but it gets buried because the corporate sponsors know he sounds like a half-wit. Meanwhile, we are regaled with hour after hour of sound-bites and repetitive superficial analyses (i.e., speculation & prognostication by the usual pundits) regarding Rev. Wright and portions of comments he has made or is rumored to have made.

Rev. Wright is a man with opinions and a right to state them publicly. But he's not running for President, and he doesn't speak for or represent the candidate he is associated with. So who keeps trying to publicize Rev. Wright's every move while manipulating the coverage to conjure up some phony controversy? Who decides to plaster Rev. Wright's picture alongside dire predictions for Obama on the front page, while hiding items illustrating McCain's dementia / senility well in the back pages?

Cheney and Rove (or their wretched minions) are merely doing what they've been doing since 2000 - manipulating the media with influence peddling and intimidation in order to secure a third term for BushCo. And the media houses play right along, anything for a quick buck, a 'scoop', or an 'exclusive' interview.

Posted April 29, 2008 12:29 PM

Posted on April 29, 2008 12:29

Zathras:
A full defense of Sen. McCain's approach to foreign and national security affairs will have to come from someone other than me.

McCain has a long record in this area, one that reflects better than average judgment overall, but at the moment he appears to be a candidate in the general election who is still unsure that he really has the GOP nomination. This is reflected in a mix of positions intended to appeal to most voters (and that are generally consistent with those McCain held before the campaign began) and positions clearly adopted to appeal to the hard core of the Republican Party, the people who still admire President Bush. In an actual McCain administration, these two orientations could not coexist peacefully.

Having said that, I would point out that what we now call the G8 originated as a periodic gathering of the leaders of the major democracies. The Nixon administration thought it wise for the heads of governments sharing similar values to meet without being encumbered by hordes of staff and the restrictions of institutional protocol -- or by the participation of Communist dictatorships. This was not a radical approach, or one motivated by some new hostility to non-Western countries, but was instead an initiative to enable the democracies to increase their options to respond to challenges outside the security field in a timely way.

The G8 has grown beyond that vision; in many ways it has grown into precisely the kind of institution that Nixon's administration sought to bypass. In McCain's place I would be calling for expanding the G8 but convening it less frequently, say, every other year. In the years it did not meet I would attempt to resurrect the kind of informal council Nixon sought to create; its purpose would be less expansive than what McCain proposes, but its membership would be similar.

The fact is that China remains a country in which power is monopolized by the state, and Russia persists in seeking to undermine the independence of neighboring countries freed from the oppression of the old Soviet empire. No amount of American goodwill can paper over the serious differences between the governments of these countries and ours. Because once admitted to a large forum like the G8 their withdrawal for any reason would be regarded as a major diplomatic failure, the temptation to gloss over objectionable policy moves by either Russia or China -- whether Russian efforts to dismember Georgia or Chinese manipulation of the yuan -- would be considerable. It is therefore undesirable for an expanded G8, whether one thinks of this as "the councils of power" or not, to be the only forum in which the major powers interact with one another.

Periodic meetings among heads of government, representing major countries sharing democratic values, are a necessary and valuable thing, provided both the purposes and the limitations of such a forum are clearly understood beforehand. McCain's "League of Democracies," as he has described it, is grandiose and impractical, but contains at its core the important recognition that the free countries of the world can and should rest common action on their common values, as they have so often in the past.

Posted April 29, 2008 11:31 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 11:31

Amir:
Just wanted to say, keep up the good work, Fareed. One of the few major media people out there who actually concentrate on important things.

Posted April 29, 2008 11:31 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 11:31

lila:

Anyone who saw Bush's morning press conference

and who stil considers McCain, his foreign

policy clone , a realistic candidate---

Speak up. Show yourself to be an idiot.

The news conference was a horrid mix blundering

and outright lies. It was freaky.

Posted April 29, 2008 11:11 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 11:11

Jim Hickland:
McCain's foreign policy approach cements a completely overlooked facet of his campaign for President. What people and our vaunted press fail to think about is that we're not really going to vote for a man, we are really voting thousands of bureaucrats who will rush in to fill the policy and administrative posts. If enough people vote for McCain, then he'll appoint/nominate the same corrupt incompetant crowd that's destroyed this nation over the past 8 years. Fortunately, McCain is a senile old coot that can barely string enough sentences together to form an intelligent paragraph. Eventually people will turn on him

Jim Hickland

Posted April 29, 2008 10:34 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 10:34

Speranza:
Here's the thing. Statements like McCain's - and the absence of reaction to its absurdity - prove one thing for sure: America is now frightened of the world. If these were the words of a school boy about someone in the playground we'd have to ask, "What is he frightened of?" The answer is clear in this case. America is frightened that it has run out of juice and that it no longer has the character or wit to be able to pull itself out of the mire. It's going to be a long fall.

Posted April 29, 2008 10:32 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 10:32

Robert Myers:
US politicians, indeed US citizens need to embrace a foreign policy that isn't based on the presumption of always having foreign enemies. And, we need to significantly cut the military budget as part of this.

Posted April 29, 2008 8:27 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 08:27

DAE:
As regards foreign policy, I'm of the age where I thought that no president could be worse than LB "how many kids have you killed today" J, then came Richard "Cambodian Incursion" Nixon, who could be worse than that? How about Ronald "Iran-Contra" Reagan, and the worst of the lot now reigning. Well it seems they all may be trumped by John 'know-nothing" McCain.

Posted April 29, 2008 8:27 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 08:27

_kt_:
Could someone explain what the G8 does that is unique? We've got the WTO for trade and the UN for diplomacy. Is it just a rich guys club where we talk about how to arrange things for the benefit of the rich guys? If so, isn't that kind of obnoxious? I don't think I know enough about the G8 to evaluate McCain's proposal.

Posted April 29, 2008 6:33 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 06:33

Ali:
Some one should tell Mr. McCain that the Cold War is over and there were no winners....just two losers, one lost early and went bankrupt, the second one is following the same path.... with about a 15 year delayed, slow-motion structure.

However, polls tell us that the same majority that re-elected George Bush now support Mr. McCain and the difference with the Democrats is very small.....

Pretty bad, or down-right dangerous?

Posted April 29, 2008 3:19 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 03:19

Robert F. Zimmerman:
I suggest that Fareed come to Ukraine and Georgia to experience the first stirrings of Putin's efforts to keep these countries weak even if he cannot bring them back into his emerging Czarist Russia.

Posted April 29, 2008 1:53 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 01:53

Robert F. Zimmerman:
I suggest that Fareed come to Ukraine and Georgia to experience the first stirrings of Putin's efforts to keep these countries weak even if he cannot bring them back into his emerging Czarist Russia.

Posted April 29, 2008 1:53 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 01:53

Mark W.:
It's not radical to me, Nixon bombed Cambodia, so why would not Senator McCain suggest, "Bomb bomb Iran", talking about insensitivity to the effects of rhetoric on oil prices.

At a Highschool, McCain was challenged by a young person. His first impulse was to threaten that young person with "The Draft". May have been funny to him but people are watching.

Henry K. is a Consultant now. I wonder if he will become a revisionist historian as a paid Consultant ? Not too long about Henry hoped Arabs would be willing to form a cohesiveness relieving western boots on arab soils I would imagine. McCain said, "I won't go it alone", who knows what he would do.

Interesting thing is that Vietnam can be compared to regional limited incursions if one accepts the fact that North Vietnamese, Chinese, Laotians and Cambodians became active partners against our treaty obligations and strategic objectives, cough-cough.

Apparent to most of us looking at the planning stages of current and future detente' that everything is on hold until Elvis leaves the building for good.

Posted April 29, 2008 12:30 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 00:30

Neocon Empire:
John McCain has always been a hawk on foreign policies. Many of his prior records demonstrated it over and over again. I agree with the main point of the article, but have to disagree on the assertion that neocons are ideologically motivated. They are not. Democracy is not what neoconservatism is about. Neocons are hostile to the democratically elected government of Palestine. They are more than happy to protect autocratic regimes like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

What neocons are trying to do is not spreading democracy, even though that may be what they say as a cover. I am going to be the kid that yell "the emperor has no clothes" since nobody else wants to say it. What the neocons aim to do is to cement a permanant world order in which the US is the center, with western Europe and its Anglo-Saxon civilization as the core of a vast empire that stretches all over the globe. Each country in the world has its predestined role.

Nations like the UK and Germany are the most trusted allies because they are afterall Anglo-Saxon. The French and Italians are part of the traditional western Judaic-Christian civilization and therefore still part of the core neocon empire. Then you have countries like Japan, which represent the less trustworthy members that play the role of agents around the world.

All great empires must have outsiders and opponents. Russia and China are naturally targets of the neocon empire. Like Japan, they are from completely different civilizations. Unlike Japan, they are not willing to submit to the "natural" order of the world of neoconservatism. What makes these two countries stand out from the rest is that they are powerful enough to threaten this order.

You can certainly explain a lot about the neocons by this vision of theirs.

Posted April 28, 2008 9:52 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 21:52

Martin Edwin Andersen:
There is so much that is admirable about Sen. McCain, but setting up an advisors' food fight while what would be an increasingly out-of-touch president presides does not seem a wise bet to me.

The neo-cons are master apparatchiks and would, once the food starts flying, likely come out on top.

The combination of Wilsonian rhetoric and gunboat tactics may sound good, but the world is too complex a place, and we will likely end up being even more isolated.

Posted April 28, 2008 8:42 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 20:42

Martin Edwin Andersen:
There is so much that is admirable about Sen. McCain, but setting up an advisors' food fight while what would be an increasingly out-of-touch president presides does not seem a wise bet to me.

The neo-cons are master apparatchiks and would, once the food starts flying, likely come out on top.

The combination of Wilsonian rhetoric and gunboat tactics may sound good, but the world is too complex a place, and we will likely end up being even more isolated.

Posted April 28, 2008 8:39 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 20:39

A sad citizen:
Once again, an extremely well written & insightful article from Fareed Zakaria. Co-existence & economic interdependence is the key to world peace & unity. Nothing would ever be achieved by excluding 2 major powers: Russia & China from G8.& Americans think that McCain is electable!! & is the US a REAL democracy??? Wake up to reality, people! We are a nation that loves to preach democratic ideals to the world when our own house is in disorder: look at Katrina, our support of dictatorial regimes ALL OVER the world, & gross disparity of wealth in this nation!

Posted April 28, 2008 7:58 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 19:58

Betty Hamilton:
This is a fabulous article, as always. Thanks for important insights and news.
I agree, McCain is confused or out to lunch. And I agree that the press is chasing pigs in a poke. Can you see the glee with which a Democrat will challenge McCain's embrace of preemptive war? No wonder the Democrats are fighting so hard for the nomination!!!

If the current world institutions do not function effectively, it is a problem with the attitudes and behaviors of the member states. Changing the sturctures will not change these attitudes. We need to get it right with the existing, though perhaps modified, structures already in place.

After all is said and done, McCain will not be able to construct new world institutions, because he is not a great coalition builder. Just like W.


If we want change, it begins with getting the external money out of governance.


Posted April 28, 2008 6:39 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 18:39

Ken:
Yes, McCain's comments were alarming, if not scary! Instead of ignoring or irritating Russia with stupid missile defense shields at a cost of millions, we need to establish a positive relationship. Include India and Brazil, OK; ignore China, McCain you must be kidding! What I really fear, which appears to be increasngly possible, is that the Democrats are going to seize "Defeat" from the jaws of "Victory" in 2008 and McCain when President will try to resolve the strategic tragedy of Iraq by attacking Iran! Then, stand by!

Posted April 28, 2008 5:48 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 17:48

Rich:
Sorry, members of the press are all busy checking lapel flags and don't have time for this...

Posted April 28, 2008 4:32 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 16:32

bala srini:
is it a sign of the future, that american senatorial candidates in the upcoming presidential election exhibit lack of vision and mission, therby confirming to the world atlarge the apathy and beginnings of decay in the senate in particular and the american politics in general.we are getting so immersed in the murky quagmirish quicksands of middle-east that we are in a self induced and self imposed and self destructive path to second-class status.we are fast approaching the third-world status in major parameters of HEALTH,&EDUCATION & HUMAN VALUES.unless there is a grass route development in promoting awareness in these important matters of fundamentals i am afraid all these talks of foreign policy might be like spitting in the wind.the apathy and general malaise got to go and the country needs to be awakened;the question is who will;i know one who won't;HILLARY FOR SURE.

Posted April 28, 2008 3:44 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 15:44

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Posted April 28, 2008 3:25 PM

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Posted by: THE REV LISA NIRBAN ROY EDITOR, REFORMS INTERNATIONAL PUBLISHERS OF JUNGLE DEMOCRACIES CAT AND MOUSE | April 29, 2008 9:15 PM

Another proud moment in history...nobody does it like Obama! Leadership, confront adversity, give direction to purpose...all presidential characteristics...all what America needs.

Posted by: Precious | April 29, 2008 9:14 PM

OBAMA SUPPORTERS --

YOU HAVE TURNED US INTO HARDENED ENEMIES.

YOU WILL PAY FOR WHAT YOU DID TO THE CLINTONS.


Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:13 PM

That's civil case number BC304174 in Los Angeles Superior Court.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:13 PM

MD --

Obama is a racist who hates whites and thinks that he's superior to them.

He will NEVER be President.

America looks forward to him being CRUSHED along with his arrogant supporters.


Posted by: | April 29, 2008 8:35 PM
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Ms. "We", is it more like you and your "we's" are looking forward to him being "CRUSHED" because as powerful as you think you are, you weren't able to "CRUSH" him yourself--you and your band of WE'S. It must be pretty difficult having to face the fact that you are not all that you think you are. Tell me, do the we's in your camp include Obama's mother and grandmother? There is a very thin line between arrogance and confidence; what I believe is that you're on the arrogance side of the line looking at Obama's confidence and envious because you can't get what he has. Perhaps if you tried to get out of yourself, you'd find a way to confidence which would automatically cleanse you of your apparent arrogance. Obama is half white, confidence does not allow one to hate himself--there goes your theory.

You know, I'm beginning to think that you are Hillary's dike lover; you do know she has one, don't you?

Posted by: MD Voter | April 29, 2008 9:13 PM

MD --

Obama is a racist who hates whites and thinks that he's superior to them.

He will NEVER be President.

America looks forward to him being CRUSHED along with his arrogant supporters.


Posted by: | April 29, 2008 8:35 PM
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Ms. "We", is it more like you and your "we's" are looking forward to him being "CRUSHED" because as powerful as you think you are, you weren't able to "CRUSH" him yourself--you and your band of WE'S. It must be pretty difficult having to face the fact that you are not all that you think you are. Tell me, do the we's in your camp include Obama's mother and grandmother? There is a very thin line between arrogance and confidence; what I believe is that you're on the arrogance side of the line looking at Obama's confidence and envious because you can't get what he has. Perhaps if you tried to get out of yourself, you'd find a way to confidence which would automatically cleanse you of your apparent arrogance. Obama is half white, confidence does not allow one to hate himself--there goes your theory.

Posted by: MD Voter | April 29, 2008 9:12 PM

WE'D LIKE TO SEE HILLARY BE PRESIDENT, BUT ITS BIGGER THAN THAT NOW.

WE WANT TO SEE OBAMA LOSE MORE THAN WE WANT TO SEE HER WIN.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:12 PM

"OBAMA WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT.

YOU CAN TAKE THAT TO THE BANK!!!!


Neither will Senator Clinton, since she is now on trial for fraud in Los Angeles. Sorry.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:11 PM

OBAMA SUPPORTERS --

BY ATTACKING THE CLINTONS SO VICIOUSLY YOU HAVE ENSURED THAT OBAMA WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT.

IF OBAMA'S THE NOMINEE, MCCAIN WILL BE THE PRESIDENT AND WE WILL ENCOURAGE HIM TO ELIMINATE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, BRING BACK THE DRAFT, ETC.

YOU WILL LOSE BIG TIME.

YOU WILL LOSE MORE THAN YOU CAN POSSIBLY IMAGINE.

YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO GO AFTER THE CLINTONS.

THAT WAS A BIG MISTAKE.

THEY ARE OUR GENERATION'S KENNEDY'S.

YOU MADE A FATAL MISTAKE BY STICKING A SHIVE IN THEM.

WE WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU.

AND WE WILL GET EVEN.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:10 PM

When Obama was on TV trying to dis the Rev. Wright he reminded so much of a guy who was caught by his wife having an affair with her best friend or her cousin even, wanting so much to convince the wife that she is just imaging it and that it never happened... (while getting dressed).

Posted by: Ebonyflash | April 29, 2008 9:10 PM

whatever happened to obama the unifier, the candidate who led many to believe that he would always keep the lines of communications open, and actively engage with those whose point-of-view differed from his own or that of mainstream americans?

why didnt he reach out to louis farrakhan and the millions of black muslim supporters that he represents? why didnt he bring them to the table and invite them to be part of the american mainstream conversation.

and now, senator obama has passed up another wonderful opportunity to demonstrate his skills as a negotiator, a communicator, and a facilitator by denouncing the views of the learned reverend wright; thus, turning his back on the critical issues that reverend wright raised which affect millions of blacks and minority communities throughout the united states? views that i believe are held by many in the black community (stated and unstated).

contrary to what senator obama said in philadelphia, i guess he can denounce the black community and his white grandmother. oh well, so much for true believerism. looks like we lost another potential leader and role model to the politicians.

Posted by: true believer | April 29, 2008 9:09 PM

I don't give a damn what Obama says or does about his pastor. Of course he was pandering, thats what politicians must do. He was pandering when he claimed to be so involved with religion in the first place. Everyone one knows if you want to get elected to public office you better bring it with the J.C. love. The bottom line is: who is really going to bring an end to the GOP reign of ignorance? Obama, or the Hilldog? The fresh, new, inspiring figure who has politcially turned on a whole new generation, or a candidate who is possibly the most polarizing, stigmatized figure in modern politics?

Posted by: Dr. Gonzo | April 29, 2008 9:09 PM

There was a gay guy who posted on one of the articles saying that Obama had dissed gays personally, so I assume that beats whatever Clinton did.

Who knows?

The important thing is that Obama's toast.

Clinton supporters HATE him and his supporters now.

We wouldn't vote for Obama if Bush or Nixon himself was running against him.

Obama and his supporters chose to make this personal.

Now, it is.

OBAMA WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT.

YOU CAN TAKE THAT TO THE BANK!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:07 PM

Go to www.lasuperiorcourt.org.
Look under civil cases. Click on case summaries. Search under case number BC304174.
That is all that needs to be said.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:04 PM

I don't see the same media scrutiny for McCain & Clinton. Coincidence? I think not!
Lets just pretend Obama is the real deal & vote for him. Can it honestly get any worse than what it is now or get any better with either Clinton or McCain? I don't know about Obama but I do know about the other two & I wouldn't vote for more of the same because I have had a gut full of the system. Now maybe he will get caught up in the system but just maybe he may try not to. Its a no brainer with me I'd vote for the guy even if he has a crazy pastor.
P.S Just by the way anyone who has fought for their country as the Rev Wright has done can say anything they like about it. Be it whether they are happy or not. Just my opinion. Cheney & Bush were too cowardly & selfish to serve yet can send others. And you think the Rev Wright is crazy!.

Posted by: Joe C | April 29, 2008 9:04 PM

"How do you know that gays think pansy is a negative term?

Maybe they think its sexy...

That's what a guy on NPR said.

Who knows?"

Well, I don't know, but the rest of the article says it is a derogatory term to gays. So does the slang dictionary. Whatever?? Leave it to the under educated Clinton supporters to not know this and to say it while standing next to her.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:02 PM

I go to church about once a month. So if my minister says something controversial and potentially offensive during one of the three weeks I'm not there, I'm responsible?

The Wright controversy is a political ploy to destroy a good and decent man who would make an excellent president.

It's amazing to see the hate and poorly hidden prejudice being thrown at Obama.

The main stream Archie Bunkers in our country just can't handle seeing a person of color rising to the highest office.

The Clintons are riddled with dishonesty, corruption and are just plain nasty. Yet, because "They Look like us" the media seems to have forgotten and the Archie Bunkers nod in approval

Posted by: A de la Torre | April 29, 2008 9:01 PM


Obama is damaged - and he should as he sat there in that church and listened to that for 20 years and he didn't say a word (as if he had, there would be evidence of it by now).

He wouldn't denounce Wright when this story first broke. Now, when it seems he realizes that it is hurting his campaign, he finally decides he wants to denounce him. Obama's true colors are showing and they are not red, white and blue.

Obama is a man of convenience. But the super delegates can see that his CHANGING stories and excuses are not going to give positive REVOTES in November.

PLUS - BREAKING NEWS - OBAMA SECRETLY HAD REV WRIGHT PRAY WITH HIM BEFORE HIS RUN FOR THIS NOMINATION

WELL - THAT SAYS IT ALL

HE'S A SNEAK AND A LIAR

GOD DOES NOT WANT OBAMA

GOD DOES BLESS AMERICA

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:01 PM

Newsflash. All three candidates are politicians (gasp!). Obama is the one running on a platform to change the establishment, with a grass roots base and at the same time beating a much better known adversary and expert politician.

How strong is Obama? Hillary has been tied to politics for a long time in the public eye - and she still couldn't put the nomination away.

The Fox News Klan and Uncle Rush are political commentators. It is their job to stir the pot and even promote an agenda. Even if these low IQ talking heads knew the truth I doubt they would know how to speak it.

Rev Wright is just another talking head from the other extreme. He is getting an extension of his fifteen minutes. Everyone knows a noisy colleague, or relative you would prefer to stay on the sidelines. Jimmy Carter had Billy Carter. Reagan had his daughter. Bill Clinton even invited Rev Wright to the Whitehouse... This too shall pass.

Posted by: DonJulio | April 29, 2008 8:59 PM

THE AMERICAN MEDIA CAN CERTAINLY PLAY BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE TO THE POINT WHERE NO WONDER THIS COUNTRY IS IN THE SHAPE IT'S IN...THE POLITICIANS HAVE THEIR FAIR SHARE ALSO..BUT AS TO OBAMA MAKING A DECISION TO ONCE AGAIN MAKE IT PLAIN FOR THOSE ADOLESCENTS WHO CAN'T SEPERATE HIS BELIEFS ON THE ISSUES FROM A PASTOR-NOBODY LIKE THE ONE WHO SPOKE AT THE NATIONAL PRESS CLUB..I OMITTED HIS NAME BECAUSE IT'S NOT WORTH CLOGGIN UP SPACE...

THIS SHOWS THAT OBAMA ONCE AGAIN WILL USE TIME AND CONTEMPLATION AND GOOD JUDGEMENT BEFORE JUMPING INTO MAKING DECISIONS BASED UPON THE OPINION OR FACTS PRESENTED!! THIS IS A MAN WHO WILL NOT RUSH US INTO WAR, RUSH INTO TO MAKING A SPEECH ABOUT RACE, RACE INTO DENOUNCING AN ASSOCIATE, THAT DESPITE HIS OLD VIEWS ALTHOUGH STILL RING AN AIR OF TRUTH OR ATLEAST THE FREEDOM TO OPEN A DISCUSSION ABOUT A LONG DARK CHAPTER IN AMERICAN HISTORY AND WORLD HISTORY AS WELL...

OBAMA KEEP MAKING THE DECISIONS ON YOUR OWN JUDGEMENT,TO BE A LEADER YOU MUST TAKE INFORMATION DECEMINATE IT AND DO YOU!!!

THIS IS NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION AND IF SO IT'S BUILT UPON THE PRINCIPLE THAT WAS DIVISIVE AND THE TRUTH IS AFICAN AMERICANS HAVE FORGIVEN THE PAST SINS OF RACISTS,,AND HAVE TRIED TO MOVE FORWARD AND HAVE DONE VERY WELL CONSIDERING THE ODDS..IT'S WHEN THE LITTLE HEAD OF RACISM POPS UP WE MUST REMIND AMERICA JUST LIKE THE JEWS OF HER HORRIBLE SINS..WE WILL NEVER FORGET NEVER.EVER..OF THE PAST SINS OF AMERICA,,IT WOULD BE AN INSULT TO OUR ANCESTORS!!! BUT WE ARE A FORGIVING PEOPLE AND BARACK OBAMA REPRESENTS THE BEST IN US AND THAT CAN ONLY SPREAD TO ALL RACES..

Posted by: Derwin | April 29, 2008 8:59 PM

MAINSTREAM AMERICA CAN'T WAIT TO VOTE AGAINST BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:58 PM

Just so you guys know, I get a bonus for every post over 1,000 : )

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:57 PM

"Outrage"!! Where was his outrage months ago when his relationship with Wright and Wright's demogogary surfaced? Where was his "outrage" during those twenty years as he listened to that c___?

All this is political expediency..dump Wright and get on with getting elected...can't do it with him, so dump him. What hypocrisy!!

Posted by: patodonn | April 29, 2008 8:56 PM

JakeD --

If Obama becomes the Democratic nominee, he's going to be the best recruiting tool the Republican party ever had.

Clinton Deocrats can't wait to vote against the guy.

After the election, we'll either take back control of the Democratic Party or we'll join the Republicans and make that the new party of mainstream America.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:56 PM

Obama and Rev Wright are two different people. Obama has allowed him to be flawed and he need not agree with everything he says in order to receive communion or worship in his church. Many Catholics disagree profoundly with many of the stances of the church. Obama cannot stop this man on his steady slide into obscurity. I believe Obama spent all those years in his church listening to mostly (99%) of his sermons being about love, giving back to the community, black pride in terms of elevating the goals and expectations of the black community, outreach programs, fighting HIV AIDS, only to now watch in horror as this man digs a deeper hole for himself. Obama's strong condemnation of the Reverand's remarks during his press conference on 4/29 should leave no doubt that Obama has now had enough and that...
"I'm outraged by the comments that were made and saddened by the spectacle. The person that I saw yesterday was not the person I met 20 years ago. His comments were not only divisive and destructive, but they end up giving comfort to those who prey on hate. I believe they do not accurately portray the perspective of the black church. They certainly don't portray mine. If he considers this political posturing, then he doesn't know me very well. And I don't know him well either." AIDS conspiracy: "Ridiculous position." Farrakhan support and analogy of Marines/terrorism: "They offend me. They rightly offend all Americans. They should be denounced. And that's what I'm doing clearly and unequivocally here today."

I believe that Obama had probably heard some remarks considered controversial in the pulpit before (Its almost impossible not to in a passionate black church) but I do not believe Obama heard the remarks so bandied about in recent times until very recently. In his controversial sermons of the past many of his points were valid, the construction of his theories was sound in terms of the pieces of information he used (Mostly I.e.: OPV AIDS hypothesis, Tuskegee Experiment etc.) but poor were his conclusions and offensive they were to some, especially given that most Americans have never heard of Tuskegee and other historical examples of oppression. This new round of chatter by Rev. Wright seems to me to be more about ego and righteousness and is vanity pure and simple. I cannot say I blame the Rev for wanting to defend himself, but to do so now is surely more about ego and pride then a defense of his principles. I DO NOT see what this has to do with Obama. I know anyone who opposes him wants it to be but its not. Most Americans care little for this Rev. Wright squabble. They care about paying 4 bucks for gasoline, losing their homes etc. In fact I suspect that this issue is the very thing most Obama supporters wanted to eliminate in the first place. Instead of partisan bickering, swift boating, mud slinging and negativity, citizens just want results and meaningful change. Perhaps Rev Wright could have thought about that as well before he injected himself back into the conversation to yet again become a distraction to the real problems facing this country. What he now have here with Rev Wright speaking up is best summed up like this...."You're so vain. I bet you think this campaign is about you."

Posted by: feastorafamine | April 29, 2008 8:55 PM

fbutler1:

It's O.K. for politicians to lie ("pander" as you like to call it)? Do you honestly think that Obama, before running for President, agreed with Wright's sermons? Does Obama STILL agree (despite his statement today)? None of that bothers you?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:54 PM

So, I will ask you one last time: You are referring to white members of THIS same church, or the demonination as a whole, who have never stepped inside THIS same church?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:52 PM

As long as we're throwing people under the bus, I want to push Jimmy Carter under one:)

Honestly, I do think Obama and Wright are putting on quite a minstel show. The Clintons must be sitting on their millions of dollars and having a good laugh. It's true, Bill Clinton was the first black president.

Posted by: JIM, MIAMI BEACH, FLORIDA | April 29, 2008 8:51 PM

You (white) people would say that Rev. Wright is crazy, probably. No, he is a man living in the black "condition" in America, or at least what he has experienced over his lifetime.

If you actually know a holistic history of America (and not just what they feed you in school), you could put some of what he says into context for yourselves. I really like Obama and I want him to be president, but he is pandering. That's okay, too, it's necessary to pander as a politician, even as a black man. To put it another way, sometimes you have to kiss ass if you want to keep your well-paying job, or at least be agreeable, most of the time. He's the type that likes to bring people together and keep them together - and he'll keep it real when he feels it necessary like his speech in Philly - but he won't come out and agree with Wright. That's political suicide.

The truth isn't always easy to swallow, especially for a bunch of numbskulls that thought Bush was adequate for the most important leadership role in the so-called free world. Americans (usually whites) can't handle the truth. Romney said there aren't two Americas, for example. A lot of whites I know things that most blacks are in the middle class now and the rest should "pick themselves up by their own bootstraps". Why? Because many pop culture figures are black and blacks live in the suburbs, too, now? Ha.

By the way, it's not really Rev. Wright's fault these things have been brought to the fore for political (nonsensical) fodder. Blame Clinton; blame the media. Who else dug up this old news, anyway?

What do Rev. Wright's views have to do with Obama, anyway? He's not going to appoint him to the Supreme Court or a Cabinet position a la Bush (THE NOTORIOUS CRONYIST).

Wright is out there speaking now, because he knows that 1) this has been a unnecessary distraction and wants to lay things to rest, but 2) he also wants to clear his name and explain - because white people and black people say different things with the same language and a common history, apparently. It's too bad they have to turn two black men on each other, but then again, that's what they always wind up doing, in one way or another. To say that Wright was being selfish in trying to clean up his name and image, in the eyes and minds of tens of millions of strangers, that's just wrong. It's actually selfish of Obama to think that Wright shouldn't be allowed to 1) speak his mind about this country and 2) explain himself in the midst of a political campaign involving Obama himself.

Whatever your stripe, the bottom line is, you have to know that America (the government AND the people) has done some foul things in its short history - to its own people and to people (and governments) abroad. In order to mature adults, you have to accept the good (history) with the bad (history). Just because you don't like the way somebody poses their views of the bad, doesn't necessarily make them any worse of a person, and it doesn't make you any better to judge them or look down your nose at them.

Posted by: fbutler1 | April 29, 2008 8:50 PM

big church:

In case you didn't know, Jeremiah Wright was the pastor of the Trinity United Church of Christ, a predominantly black church located in south Chicago. With upwards of 10,000 members, it is the largest church affiliated with the United Church of Christ, a predominantly white Christian denomination.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_United_Church_of_Christ

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:50 PM

Go ButchHillary!

Posted by: SingleWhiteFemaleThatGetsIntoSingleWhiteFemales | April 29, 2008 8:49 PM

"But this lady right here makes Rocky Balboa look like a pansy."

She sure does. Those pants suits are getting awfully tiresome.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:48 PM

How do you know that gays think pansy is a negative term?

Maybe they think its sexy...

That's what a guy on NPR said.

Who knows?

You Obama supporters are digging your own political grave by attacking the Clintons.

Keep digging. You're candidate's chances of winning the General Election are already zero.

It can't get any worse for him.

All you can do now is cause more damage to the Democratic Party.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:48 PM

WOO HOO!!! 1,000 posts in less than six hours. That must be some sort of record!!!

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:48 PM


Obama embraced Rev Wright less than a month ago

He said in some ridiculously LONG speech that he could "no more disown him than he could his white grandmother".


Mr. Obama SECRETLY PRAYED WITH REV WRIGHT IN THE BASEMENT BEFORE HE ANNOUNCED HIS CAMPAIGN FOR PRESIDENT

WOW.

NO WONDER HE ISN'T GOING TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

HE IS DISHONEST WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE


HIS SPIRITUAL MENTOR IS A RABID RACIST

YES HE DID DESCRIBE THIS MAN AS HIS SPIRITUAL COUNSELOR

EVEN IF IT ISN'T CONVENIENT AND HE TELLS YOU HE ISN'T AND NEVER WAS

MR OBAMA LIKES TO "CHANGE" HIS STORY EVERY TIME HE IS CAUGHT IN A BOLD FACED LIE

NAFTA WINK-WINK? SAID IT DIDN'T HAPPEN UNTIL THE MEETING MEMO PROVED IT DID HAPPEN!!

THEN HE POINTED FINGERS AT HILLARY

THIS MAN IS AN OUTRAGEOUS CHILD !!!!

NOW IT'S IN THE NEWS THAT OBAMA SECRETLY PRAYED IN THE BASEMENT WITH A MAN WHO SAID "GOD DAMN AMERICA"

BUT HE WANTED THE WORLD AND AMERICANS TO THINK HE DIDN'T - SO HE PUBLICLY SAID HE WOULDN'T HAVE HIM ADMINISTER THE PRAYER

I GUESS REV WRIGHT SHOULD BE TICKED OFF WITH OBAMA

OBAMA TRIES TO HIDE DENY AND DISTANCE HIMSELF FROM ANYTHING ABOUT HIMSELF THAT ISN'T POLITICALLY WORKING

MR OBAMA HAS MUCH TO ANSWER FOR

BUT DON'T EXPECT THOSE ANSWERS TO BE HONEST

HE'S A MAN OF CONVENIENCE

HE THINKS HE'S ON EASY STREET

SMOOTH TALKER WILL TALK HIMSELF OUT OF TROUBLE

WOW. MOM MUST'VE LET HIM THINK THIS WORKS WITH EVERYONE

SHE MUST HAVE BEEN A PUSHOVER

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:47 PM

I wish it weren't so...but deep in all
of our hearts we knew the kind of
ugliness and hate that would bubble
up with the first viable African
American candidate for president. He's
walking on new soil, and it's rocky and
uncomfortable. I'm ready for someone
to tell me things that are true. So some
people are saying his comments about
J.Wright are politically convenient. Well,
his disagreement with a gas tax
moratorium are not. This many is trying
to tell us the truth, and I for one hope
we're listening.

Posted by: Fuller | April 29, 2008 8:47 PM

Go Hillary!

Posted by: SingleWhiteFemaleThatGetsIntoSingleWhiteFemales | April 29, 2008 8:47 PM

My Church is not half as big and my kids where babtized there and I was married there

I have no spiritual advising from my minister
just song and sermon

with only 300 members

Posted by: big church | April 29, 2008 8:47 PM

Heston:

May he rest in peace.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:45 PM

Quote: "maybe Obama didnt go to church enough"

Who cares?? Neither does most of America these days.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:44 PM

Hillary rules! Us biker chicks down at "Hung Jury" think she is just what America needs!

Posted by: SingleWhiteFemaleThatGetsIntoSingleWhiteFemales | April 29, 2008 8:44 PM

That church in Hyde Park U of Chicago is mainly white.

check it out

Posted by: big church | April 29, 2008 8:44 PM

HIS OWN WORDS:

"I was always against the Iraq war."

vs.

"The person that I saw yesterday was not the person that I had come to know over 20 years."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:43 PM

From today's news.

North Carolina Gov. Mike Easley's high-profile embrace of Hillary Clinton may not play out as an unalloyed asset for her. The main sound bite he delivered in endorsing her presidential candidacyNorth Carolina Gov. Mike Easley endorsed Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton but in the process used an insulting term for gay men today sparked criticism (muted, for the most part) for being an insult to gays.

Referring to his own reputation as a hard-charging politician, he said, "I've been accused of being persistent and downright aggravating." As Clinton stood next to him in an auditorium at North Carolina University, he added, "But this lady right here makes Rocky Balboa look like a pansy."

Will these Clinton supporters never learn?? Even the governor?? There goes Clinton's gay vote.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:43 PM

Jake that image of mister heston is pricelsss

Posted by: charles heston | April 29, 2008 8:43 PM

big church:

You are referring to white members of THIS same church, or the demonination as a whole, who have never stepped inside THIS same church?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:42 PM

maybe Obama didnt go to church enough

???

Posted by: theory | April 29, 2008 8:41 PM

america:

They can have you as soon as they pry the nuclear buttom from my cold dead fingers ; )

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:40 PM

A lot of members of 1000 plus church of manyly white folk say they never heard the comments

Posted by: big church | April 29, 2008 8:40 PM

A Republican:

I believe that Obama is telling the truth when he says he is outraged by Wright's comments (becoming public ; )

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:38 PM

just In America Forclosed by China

we 30 days to move out

Posted by: america | April 29, 2008 8:37 PM

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:36 PM

Quote: "CAN'T WE DO BETTER THAN THESE THREE STOOGES?"

Apparently not. What a time for a good third party candidate.
Now, let's just find one.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:36 PM

MD --

Obama is a racist who hates whites and thinks that he's superior to them.

He will NEVER be President.

America looks forward to him being CRUSHED along with his arrogant supporters.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:35 PM

PEACE
LOVE
in my defenselessness my safety lies

Fear and Hate only exist if I believe in them and I don't
Eternity don't scare me

go OBAMA

Posted by: its not the meat its the motion | April 29, 2008 8:35 PM

I am a dyed in the wool conservative but I can tell you that Obama is telling you the truth when he says he is outraged by Wright's comments. These jaded/conspiracy under every rock people flail around striking Obama now --I temporary respite from the Government blew up the towers on 911 with explosives nutcases who believe absolute stupid crap like the government brought in AIDS to kill black people--you people FORGOT your own previous conspiracy --remember? The government brought it in to kill the gays!! If black churches embrace this hogwash they better learn what brainwash is.

Posted by: A Republican | April 29, 2008 8:34 PM

Mark:

It was "BREAKING" news at 3:30 PM (above) when I asked upwards "Would you be similarly upset if one of McCain's mistresses was 'allowed' to speak at the National Press Club?"

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:34 PM

Quote: "Obama denounced Reverend Wright. Why doesn't MCCAIN step up to the plate and repudiate Pastor John Hagee and his hateful comments. There is a double standard at work here........"

Because McCain doesn't have to denounce anyone. In fact he doesn't have to do anything else. He is the next president. The democrats have seen to that with their bickering.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:32 PM

Mark --

That's old news, and this isn't even about Wright anymore. Its about Obama's racism.

Even if he gets the Democratic nomination, he will NEVER win a general election.

We know who and what he is now.

He will NEVER get our votes.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:32 PM

MD --

We've got a lot more.

You need Democrats more than they need you.

Hillary's got $100M.

How much do you and BrooklynGirl have in the bank?

How would you like to be drafted?

Hillary doesn't need any of you.

Neither do we.

Posted by: | April 29, 2008 7:37 PM
----------------------------------------
Dear "We",

I have a lot more than you obviously think I have. If asked the questions "are you better off now than you were 7 years ago"; my response would be "hell yeah", and I wasn't anywhere near bad off 7 years ago. So to respond to your comment, no I don't need the Dems more than they need me, I do very well irregardless of which party is in office. My bank account??--which one? I've maxed out on my contribution to the Obama campaign and no, I'm not out bundling for him, simply because I don't feel like it, and especially because he don't need me too. Much more than can be said about your candidate. So Ms. We, Hillary may have $100 million less the $5 million that she used to prop up her dying campaign, but what is it worth when she can't afford the most precious thing for she and her Hillbilly husband--the DNC nomination. And, obviously, you will all that you have can't get it for her either. About your other question, how would I like to be drafted into Hillary's war; sorry, can't scare me with that one either--will never happen to me or my son. So take your empty threats and spew them on the lower class Republican pointed sheet wearing voters that you will be supporting come June, lol...

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:31 PM

Peabody3000 (and various Anonymous posters asking about my hypothetical questions):

I will gladly answer your questions just as soon as you answer mine.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:30 PM

peabody3000 --

You have no idea what you're talking about.
Obams's supporters are AA's, the far left, and the very young.

The core of the Democratic Party are the white middle class and non-AA minorities who are at the political center.

The biggest block of all are white middle class voters.

They will NEVER vote for Obama now that they know what he thinks of "typical white people" who "cling to religion and guns"

Obama is toast.

Obama can't win, he can only cause Democrats to lose.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:30 PM

BREAKING: The LA Times reports that Wright's press club appearance was organized by an ardent Clinton supporter, Dr. Barbara Reynolds. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to divine why. I wonder if the Post will pick up on this?

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/04/wrightsetup.html

Posted by: Mark | April 29, 2008 8:29 PM

FEAR
FEAR
HATE
HATE
FEAR
FEAR
WHAT IF?
INNUENDO
FEAR
FEAR
FEAR
HATE
HATE

Bill Clinton in 2004:
"Now one of Clinton's Laws of Politics is
this: If one candidate's trying to scare
you and the other one's trying to get you
to think; if one candidate's appealing to
your fears and the other one's appealing
to your hopes, you better vote for the
person who wants you to think and hope.
That's the best."

Why is it I post this and anyone who reads it knows EXACTLY what it means and refers to?

Swift boat all you want...keep it up with your own personal 527's

It wont work this time.

Posted by: feastorafamine | April 29, 2008 8:29 PM

If Obama believes that the US government created AIDS to hurt Blacks he is stupid.

I don't think he believe that.

Posted by: Zz | April 29, 2008 8:29 PM

mgd1 Learn how to use a computer.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:27 PM

well, you really dont seem very bright....

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 8:27 PM

CAN'T WE DO BETTER THAN THESE THREE STOOGES?

Posted by: WHOLETRUTHY | April 29, 2008 8:25 PM

There is an old saying that many an American mother has passed along that goes something like "you are judged by the company you keep so choose your friends well".

Rev. Wright was far more than just company to Obama - he married Obama and baptized Obama's children and was Obama's spiritual leader for two decades. In fact at the start of the campaign Rev. Wright was spoken of very highly by Obama.

Of course now, decades later and months after the early campaign rallies, Obama is now suddenly disagreeing with his spiritual leader. Do I trust Obama at this point? Do I believe Obama at this point? Do I want a man who followed a racist priest? My answer is "no".

Posted by: mgd1 | April 29, 2008 8:25 PM

There is an old saying that many an American mother has passed along that goes something like "you are judged by the company you keep so choose your friends well".

Rev. Wright was far more than just company to Obama - he married Obama and baptized Obama's children and was Obama's spiritual leader for two decades. In fact at the start of the campaign Rev. Wright was spoken of very highly by Obama.

Of course now, decades later and months after the early campaign rallies, Obama is now suddenly disagreeing with his spiritual leader. Do I trust Obama at this point? Do I believe Obama at this point? Do I want a man who followed a racist priest? My answer is "no".

Posted by: mgd1 | April 29, 2008 8:25 PM

No I wish I did have a boat. I have a Wave Rider though. A poor mans water craft...

Posted by: Gooch | April 29, 2008 8:24 PM

Hillary is the best candidate ever!!!

Posted by: SingleWhiteFemaleThatGetsIntoSingleWhiteFemales | April 29, 2008 8:24 PM

Obama doesn't have an ounce of loyalty.

Its great to see him throw everyone who's ever trusted him under the bus, drive over them, back up, and drive over them again

The guy is a bum.

Everyone who supports him will get the shaft sooner or later.

That's KARMA!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:23 PM

There is an old saying that many an American mother has passed along that goes something like "you are judged by the company you keep so choose your friends well".

Rev. Wright was far more than just company to Obama - he married Obama and baptized Obama's children and was Obama's spiritual leader for two decades. In fact at the start of the campaign Rev. Wright was spoken of very highly by Obama.

Of course now, decades later and months after the early campaign rallies, Obama is now suddenly disagreeing with his spiritual leader. Do I trust Obama at this point? Do I believe Obama at this point? Do I want a man who followed a racist priest? My answer is "no".

Posted by: mgd1 | April 29, 2008 8:23 PM

Obama lacks a moral center. He hid Wright for a year because he clearly knew he was a liability. He is a Columbia and Harvard Law grad who spent 20 years with Wright and today he claims he wasn't aware of what this Black Liberation Theology that was at the core of his church was all about? Not plausible in the least. Just like his law student days when he thumbed his nose at paying tickets - until he got caught 20 years later. As well his attempt to hide his relationship with Rezko. Obama has never demonstrated a real moral center or courage.

Posted by: Chrissy | April 29, 2008 8:23 PM

There is an old saying that many an American mother has passed along that goes something like "you are judged by the company you keep so choose your friends well".

Rev. Wright was far more than just company to Obama - he married Obama and baptized Obama's children and was Obama's spiritual leader for two decades. In fact at the start of the campaign Rev. Wright was spoken of very highly by Obama.

Of course now, decades later and months after the early campaign rallies, Obama is now suddenly disagreeing with his spiritual leader. Do I trust Obama at this point? Do I believe Obama at this point? Do I want a man who followed a racist priest? My answer is "no".

Posted by: mgd1 | April 29, 2008 8:23 PM

Jake D, what if you said "what if" in the courtroom after you graduate from "Stanford Law School"??

The judge would laugh you out of the courtroom.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:23 PM

There is an old saying that many an American mother has passed along that goes something like "you are judged by the company you keep so choose your friends well".

Rev. Wright was far more than just company to Obama - he married Obama and baptized Obama's children and was Obama's spiritual leader for two decades. In fact at the start of the campaign Rev. Wright was spoken of very highly by Obama.

Of course now, decades later and months after the early campaign rallies, Obama is now suddenly disagreeing with his spiritual leader. Do I trust Obama at this point? Do I believe Obama at this point? Do I want a man who followed a racist priest? My answer is "no".

Posted by: mgd1 | April 29, 2008 8:23 PM

obama's supporters ARE the core of the democratic party

hillary's supporters tend to be less educated, and less informed

obama can drive real change in this country

hillary can drive the US into the toilet

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 8:23 PM

peabody3000:

Perhaps it takes someone with more EDUCATION than I have to understand how "well im quite happy to hear obama denounce the pastor" ANSWERS the question "What if Obama STILL agrees and is simply lying about it?" See you around, I guess.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:22 PM

WHAT IF PIGS COULD FLY or

AND MORMANS ARE 100% right?

Posted by: what if | April 29, 2008 8:21 PM

JakeD

so what is the point of your inane little question anyways.......

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 8:21 PM

Quote: "What if Obama, before running for President, agreed with Wright's "contentious" sermons? What if Obama STILL agrees and is simply lying about it? None of that would matter to you?"

What if?? What if the frog had wings?? Then he wouldn't bump his ---- every time that he hopped.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:20 PM

I'm still an Obama supporter, but I'm disappointed in his total cave-in today. Despite what he said that he does not do, he "did what strategically he had to do." I wonder whether he ever cared, really cared for Wright. If he did, how could he be so unemotionally surgical in cutting him off and wonder if he would've done the same to his grandmother if she had said something that could have threatened his career? If he never really cared for Wright, he certainly used Wright to establish his Christian credentials and either borrowed or shared many of Wright's positive values: need for social change, reconciliation, transformation through the "audacity of hope" (Wright's words). Does Obama have no sense of his having dragged Wright into his political squabbles, and does he have no compassion for the vilification Wright has endured until apparently he could not yield to just being the invisible nobody the Obama campaign wanted him to be? Obama today perhaps rightly distanced himself from the inflammatory Wright assertions, though he distorted what Wright had said. Did Obama too have to denounce Wright as a person, as if suddenly he saw an evil Jekyll-Hyde in Wright? If Obama is to be taken as an authentic person, why did it take him so long to see what he now claims to have suddenly seen? I can see why Wright was angry, satirical, play-acting in the Press question period yesterday, the questioners taunting and diminshing him, not unlike the taunting of Obama in the ABC debate. Unlike Obama, Wright didn't weasel out with "Look, look" evasions. Obama has exposed a flaw in himself, a disloyalty, a willingness to sacrifice "the uncle." Okay, that's politics. So we are back in the mire. A confused Obama-supporter, I feel a sadness for Obama that he was unwilling to show (if he felt sad) and a sadness for Wright, who should not have undergone humiliation because of Obama's candidacy, but did stand up for himself and his church.

Posted by: matkeats5 | April 29, 2008 8:20 PM

Obama is destroying the Democratic Party.

He's driving white middle class voters out of it.

If Obama gets the nomination, you can kiss the core of the Democratic Party goodbye.

We'll go to the Republican party where they don't stick a shiv in the back of former Presidents.

We won't forget what Obama's done to the Clintons.

We'll make him and his supporters pay for what they have done.

Obama will NEVER be president.

You can take that to the bank.

Posted by: Obama is destroying the Democratic Party | April 29, 2008 8:20 PM

I am not an IQ I am free
as god created me
equal
wonderful
loved by my creator

like all

Posted by: Im an not a IQ I am free | April 29, 2008 8:20 PM

Beni Dakar, Duluth, GA:

What if Obama, before running for President, agreed with Wright's "contentious" sermons? What if Obama STILL agrees and is simply lying about it? None of that would matter to you?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:19 PM



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Case Number: BC304174
PETER F PAUL VS WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON

Filing Date: 10/14/2003
Case Type: Fraud (no contract) (General Jurisdiction)
Status: Pending

Future Hearings

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:19 PM

well im quite happy to hear obama denounce the pastor. so theres your answer, though it certainly shouldnt come as a surprise to you

i believe the Rev. Wrong could be putting on an act. i bet it wouldnt take much money or other influence to have bent that clown so far out of whack. in any event a fringe lunatic like that will find precious little support from the public

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 8:18 PM

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Posted by: move down dot org | April 29, 2008 8:17 PM

Obama is a human IQ test. Anyone who supports him doesn't have one.

Posted by: Obama is a human IQ test. Anyone who supports him doesn't have one. | April 29, 2008 8:17 PM

From the news:
Hillary Clinton and "The Largest Election Law Fraud in History"

"Hillary Clinton's campaign appears to be in possible legal jeopardy with the introduction of a "smoking gun" video in a court case that has somehow escaped the attention of the mainstream media.

Investor's Business Daily explains that the "scandal involves allegations by movie producer Peter Paul that a 2000 senatorial fundraiser for Clinton in Hollywood violated campaign laws. Paul claims he spent $2 million to produce the fundraising event -- a de facto campaign expenditure. Under campaign law then in effect, campaign gifts were limited to $2,000."

John Armor, Election Law Expert at Equal Justice Foundation, says Hillary is involved in the "largest election law fraud in US history."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:16 PM

i'm a really angry, frustrated, transvestite. oh and did i forget to mention that anyone can post as anyone else here?

Posted by: SingleWhiteFemale | April 29, 2008 8:06 PM
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hahaha, you really are angry and frustrated; never guessed you to be a transvestite, but hell...like you said, whatever floats your boat, lol...

Posted by: SingleWhiteFemale | April 29, 2008 8:15 PM

Wright has his own EGO to deal with.

Whats OBAMA got to do with that.

Posted by: silly season | April 29, 2008 8:15 PM

I see the Fake JakeD is back ...

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:14 PM

Where's Huma Abedin when Hillary needs her. Come home Huma.

Posted by: Huma Huma | April 29, 2008 8:14 PM

At least the BBC is not putting words into Obama's mouth, the way the U.S. press is. Obama did not denounce, repudiate, reject, or abandon Wright. HE HAS NOT SAID ANY SUCH THING. All he said is that "any relationshp I had with him as changed."
"Changed?" That's pretty weak and ambiguous if you ask me. Yet the U.S press has been putting the typical leftist, pro-Bama spin on it to make it sound like he said something far more committal than he actually did. Let the "Reverend" utter a few equally ambiguous noncomittal words of pseudo-apology and my gosh there will be such a heartfelt reconcliation.

Posted by: Geoff L. | April 29, 2008 8:14 PM

I politely disaggree grace

but I love you

go OBAMA

Clinton calcualate her vote too

Posted by: its just silly season | April 29, 2008 8:13 PM

This is very interesting to me, but for different reasons than the other posters. Clearly, Wright knew that his actions would have a damning effect on Obama's campaign. The question is, is Wright a)very, very stupid, or b) did he sabotage Obama on purpose? My gut is telling me b) that he knew exactly what he was doing, and this was a calculated attempted to harm Obama's campaign. I just can't believe that he could be stupid enough not to realize that. So the question is, why? If America elects a black president, does Wright lose his cred? As a black man who has suffered, does he begrudge Obama getting opportunities he didn't have? Is this some kind of personal vendetta? I would really like to know what he was thinking.

Posted by: va | April 29, 2008 8:13 PM

Suprising how so many who now have the Lord in their soul. Bet your local preacher, priest, rabbi would wonder when they last saw you. Give us a break, you fakers!
We'll stick with Barack, & he'll turn this mess around. Clinton's we've had our fill of. Oh, Hillary, go out a buy some clothes that we'll let us know you are a lady. With all these pants suits, you look like a guy.

Posted by: Dick | April 29, 2008 8:13 PM

Gooch | April 29, 2008 8:12 PM

do you have a boat named "Gooch?"

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:13 PM

Obama is our Savior. Obama, Ayers, and Reverend Wright are Right! God D*** america! The stupid, bitter, racist "typical white people" of pennsylvania voted for clinton. How disgusting, now they have even more blood on their hands! They ignored their opportunity to redeem themselves for their racim, and evil past -> slavery - to finally make Michelle proud. How sad. Please no hater responses, but you bitter, typical Indiana white people, please stop buying guns and save your money for my reparations check! Obama ''08, Repartions Check, ''09! http://www.npr.org/programs/specials/racism/0108 27.reparations.html

Posted by: Obamamania | April 29, 2008 8:13 PM

When the controversy surrounding the comments of Democratic presidential hopeful Senator Barack Obama's pastor first became an issue in March, I thought that the media was making much of nothing and probably taking Reverend Jeremiah A. Wright's comments about "the chickens coming home to roost" concerning the tragedy of September 11th and "that AIDS was created by whites to kill black people" out of context and that the issue would soon show ridiculous and fade away. The events of the past few days have proved that Reverend Wright is not the misunderstood preacher that I thought he was and that he seems carefree in enjoying the limelight at the expense of the candidacy of the first viable black presidential candidate.

I was always troubled by the controversy about the seemingly anti-American sermons of the pastor that married the Obamas and baptized their two daughters; but was glad that if it had to happen that it occurred this spring opposed to in the fall when Obama will likely be the Democratic presidential nominee, thinking that there would be time enough for the Obama campaign to have moved on and successfully recovered from the debacle. Moreover, the speech by Obama on race that was a response to the Wright sound bites proclaiming such insanity like "God damn America", I thought was brilliant and elevated the discussion of race in America in an unprecedented way.

I respected and admired Obama that in his "race" speech that he did not abandon his former pastor (Reverend Wright), while distancing himself from Wright's contentious sermons. However, it seems that Reverend Wright does not have a since of fair play or an awareness of the high stakes involved in Obama's presidential bid. Wright seemed sane and reasonable during his pre-recorded interview with journalist Bill Moyers which played on PBS TV over the weekend; but his later live appearances at the NAACP Dinner in Detroit, Michigan and Monday at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C. indicate that he is an egomaniac and does not care about how his comments and innuendo may adversely impact on his former parishioner Obama.

I remain steadfast that Senator Clinton is the better of two extraordinarily bright and able Democratic presidential candidates (Obama being her rival); but Obama is worthy of respect and his doable candidacy for the presidency of the United States of America is a major breakthrough and milestone in the history of America and especially black Americans. What Obama has achieved in his run for the presidency is unprecedented and his achievement is not only something to be proud of, but it is changing perceptions of black people and black leaders that will benefit all black Americans throughout their many walks of life. For Reverend Wright to betray his former parishioner Obama for fifteen minutes of national fame and jeopardize his run for the Democratic presidential nomination and perhaps even ultimately for the presidency is selfish and shameful.

My hope is that the American people will not allow the self serving Reverend Wright's media appearances to negatively influence their opinion of Obama. Obama is an honorable man and he is running for the presidency to serve Americans of all backgrounds. He deserves to be evaluated by voters on his platform and the manner of man that he has shown us to be by his outstanding oratory and well managed campaign and not by the out sized ego and buffoonery of his misguided former pastor.

Posted by: Beni Dakar, Duluth, GA | April 29, 2008 8:13 PM

Quote: "Preachers say what they say because they're pastors. They have a different person to whom they're accountable.

As I said, whether he gets elected or not, I'm still going to have to be answerable to God November 5th and January 21st. That's what I mean. I do what pastors do. He does what politicians do."

Give it a break. A big percentage of the US doesn't attend church or believe in organized religion. Look it up.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:12 PM

peabody3000:

Of course that would matter to me -- under your hypothetical scenario, both Senators should be sent to Gitmo not the Oval Office -- see how easy it is to answer?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:12 PM

You Obama supporters are really drinking up the Kool-Aid tonight. Watching you all try to spin your way around this Wright mess is really something to see.

On one hand a large number of you are insisting that none of this matters at all, it's all blow out of proportion by the press (then why is Obama doing nothing but talking about it if it doesn't matter?).

On the other hand a lot of the truly disturbed Obama nuts are actually trying to defend Wrights remarks as somehow truthful, somehow based in fact and not just urban legend, something that even Barry Obama does not agree with.

But both groups still manage to slip in the usual "I hate Clinton" message or two in the spin process.

Some of the faithful are even claiming that it is somehow unfair to judge Obama because of Wright, while at the same time they are slamming Hilary for something Bill supposedly did or did not do. Hypocritical some might say - but not any of the Obama cultists. Anything goes as long as it helps Barack.

You all are spinning so fast it's starting to look like a tornado, a tornado that is blowing away any chance your candidate has at winning the nomination. It is not playing too well in Indiana - but then again you can all claim that the people there are also just a bunch of stupid racists just like the folks in Ohio and Pennsylvania.

You judge the quality of the fruit by tree if comes from. In this case Obama is the fruit, Wright is the tree.


Posted by: Gooch | April 29, 2008 8:12 PM

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OBAMA`FUNDED THE WAR IN IRAQ AND HIS AIDE SAID HE WOULD WAIT AND SEE IF HE WOULD GET THE TROOPS OUT OF IRAQ.

CLINTON IS THE WAY TO GO!!

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Posted by: GRACE | April 29, 2008 8:12 PM

To all those who doubt Barack Obama's sincerity, I strongly urge you to read his books, especially his first one, which really gives an excellent understanding of his focus and spirit. Believe me, Wright was only one person among many who helped him in his community organizing activities. His activities caused him to gravitate toward the Trinity church, but this is a very analytical gentleman, and he is not likely to accept everything at the Trinity church hook, line and sinker.

Posted by: Bill | April 29, 2008 8:11 PM

no one is reading at this point but idiots like me

Posted by: its just silly season | April 29, 2008 8:11 PM

Hold on, there are a couple of drops left, slurp...slurp....OK now I am really done. Daddy wiped the rest off my face with my fake Stanford diploma!

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:10 PM

Quote: "P.S. I graduated at the top of my class from Stanford Law School -- I'm still not voting for Obama -- what is your education?"

Yeah right, Jake D. use some of that education to get a free spell checker.
Remind me not to send my kid to Stanford.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:10 PM

Folks, don't buy into this "VAST WRIGHT WING CONSPIRACY!"

MODERATOR: 'What is your motivation for characterizing Senator Obama's response to you as, quote, "what a politician had to say"? What do you mean by that?'

WRIGHT: "What I mean is what several of my white friends and several of my white, Jewish friends have written me and said to me. They've said, "You're a Christian. You understand forgiveness. We both know that, if Senator Obama did not say what he said, he would never get elected."

Politicians say what they say and do what they do based on electability, based on sound bites, based on polls, Huffington, whoever's doing the polls. Preachers say what they say because they're pastors. They have a different person to whom they're accountable.

As I said, whether he gets elected or not, I'm still going to have to be answerable to God November 5th and January 21st. That's what I mean. I do what pastors do. He does what politicians do.

I am not running for office. I am hoping to be vice president."

This time it is NOT A FAIRY TALE, but, a well crafted strategy and colloboration between OBAMA and his IMPASTOR-WRIGHT of TWENTY (20) YEARS..."A VAST WRIGHT WING CONSPIRACY" to get Obama elected and make Impastor-Wright his V.P.

Posted by: cheersdk | April 29, 2008 8:10 PM

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:10 PM

ahhh... you like hypothetical questions?

ok here's one: what if mccain and hillary are al quaeda operatives who want to destroy america?

and, would it matter to you?

hypothetically speakin'! haha. but hey i'll answer for ya... i bet it would matter to you, but youre pretty sure you dont need to say so since the whole question is actually pretty stupid

isnt it.

reminds me of the last hypothetical debate we had in this country: what if saddam has chemical weapons, yellowcake uranium, mobile weapons labs, chemical-weaponized arial drones, active nuke weapons programs, al quaeda connections, terrorist training camps, etc etc etc???

oh, he didnt? none? at all?? ah never mind then!

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 8:09 PM

Oh wow you got me on the grammer.

Get a man

Be happy.

Or get a dike whatever floats your boat.
You clearly support Obama

So you have two problems

Single and stupid

Probably explains the singlness

Hehe

Posted by: Racist | April 29, 2008 7:36 PM

-----------------------------------
...he says as my husband and I sit here laughing at him, lol...lucky you I have a man, otherwise I might take yours, hehe...

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:09 PM

I just got finished blowing my dad...yum, it was good!

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:09 PM

"chippy"?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:08 PM

P.S. I graduated at the top of my class from Stanford Law School -- I'm still not voting for Obama -- what is your education?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:04 PM

Yeah right. On the internet you can be anything you want to....go have fun little chippy...

Posted by: Trigger with an N | April 29, 2008 8:07 PM

Paul:

I assume that Barack HUSSEIN Obama listened to the whole of Rev. Wright's sermons (at least those he was personally present for ; )

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:07 PM

but the laptap keyboard is killing me

Posted by: to jake | April 29, 2008 8:07 PM

i'm a really angry, frustrated, transvestite. oh and did i forget to mention that anyone can post as anyone else here?

Posted by: SingleWhiteFemale | April 29, 2008 8:06 PM

I was born a NUT(buckeye) moved to became a hooiser went back to OXFORS for college

Posted by: TO JAKE | April 29, 2008 8:06 PM

To me, it's quite clear what is going on here; it should be clear to any individual who can put two and two together.

Reverand Wright has taken this opportunity, this national spotlight that has been shone upon him due to the campaign, to speak what is on his mind to a larger audience than what he normally drew from his congregation. He believes it his duty to preach on the national scale, to "right" some perceived wrongs within society. However, he is being very self-centered in his motives. By stepping into the national spotlight and offering up some very controversial ideas (that make many people uncomfortable, given the response he is garnered), Wright is damaging the political hopes of a man that he has known for 20 years. I understand Wright's desire to reach the masses, to preach what he believes, but he must recognize that his behavior is damaging Barack's image to people who buy into the media hype and soundbites that will be replayed over and over for at least the next few months.

I believe in every individual's right to free speech, even in this case, but I sincerely wish that Rev. Wright would recognize the rift that he is widening between different groups of people in our nation. Obama, I truly believe, seeks to repair the rifts that tear our country apart. Even if his pastor has been linked to controversial statements, that certainly does not mean that Obama himself adheres to the same conspiracy theories as Wright.

In this race for the Democratic Party's nomination, Wright has allowed his selfishness to get in the way of Barack's growth as a candidate by tying him to divisive statements. I hope that people are intelligent enough to recognize that Reverand Wright's opinions do not reflect those of Barack and that Barack's foundation is based on a quest for unity in our nation.

If the media would ignore Wright's attempts at preaching to the nation (which they won't due to their need for controversy and "hot" news), he would become a thing of the past and we could proceed with this nominating contest.

Posted by: Wright is in the wrong, Obama is right for US | April 29, 2008 8:06 PM

If Obama (and the rest of the world) listened to the whole of Rev. Wright's sermons, he would be thanking him for his insights, and not condemning him. Politics by sound-bite is destroying public discourse, and the false statements and characterizations of Rev. Wright foisted on us by the press is the worst case to date. Shame on Obama for being as close-minded as Rush Limbaugh.

Posted by: Paul | April 29, 2008 8:04 PM

P.S. I graduated at the top of my class from Stanford Law School -- I'm still not voting for Obama -- what is your education?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:04 PM

END THE SPIRITUAL ADVISOR PRACTISE

SPIRITS FREE YOUR SELFS

NO MORE GOVERMENT SPONSORED SPIRITUAL ADVISOR PROGRAMS FUNDING BY OUR TAXES

MY SPIRIT IS FINE

LEAVE MY SPIRIT BEE

GO OBAMA

Posted by: sotp advising my spirit you idiot | April 29, 2008 8:02 PM

Q: When will Barack Obama be ready to become President?

A: When he can denounce Rev. Wright two more times.

Posted by: George | April 29, 2008 8:02 PM

HEY EPTHORN....AND I"M USING ALL CAPS!!!

YOU NEED TO SEE A THERAPIST AND GET YOU SOME KIND OF SEDATIVE WHILE YOU'RE THERE. OBAMA IS NOT THE ONE! HE HAS TOO MANY SKELETONS IN THE CLOSET. DON'T HATE ON REV. WRIGHT. HE WAS AT LEAST BEING VERY OPEN AND HONEST SOMETHING OBAMA HAS NOT LEARNED. REV. WRIGHT HAS THE AMMO TO HANG OBAMA AND THE REST OF THE STORY HASN'T BEEN TOLD.....YET.

Posted by: Ebonyflash | April 29, 2008 8:02 PM

P Diddy, your reply is appreciated and noted. As I noted, my comments were in fact directed at those who are as militant as Wright, even though my language needs refining, not at those who are not. I know several black people who are great at cooperating with whites. And I agree wholeheartedly that there are many whites who are racist. I certainly get associated with them a lot, even though that is not my sentiment (racism meaning that whites are superior to blacks or vice versa).

Having spent my early life coming aware of the peacenik civil rights movement in Hawaii, quite away from where the core of it was happening, I have been aghast at how devoid of aloha that rap and the current generation has become. It looks to me like pent up basic desire for revenge. Wright seems to have evolved embracing this environment. Obama on the other hand, based on his first book, was trying to treat the causes of the militance, using many different personalities.

Posted by: Bill | April 29, 2008 8:01 PM

peabody3000:

That really didn't answer the questions. Think of them as "hypothetical" if that helps. Here they are, one last time:

1) What if Obama, before running for President, did agree with Wright's views?

2) What if Obama STILL agrees and is simply lying about it?

3) None of that would matter to you?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:01 PM

Sick twisted B. Hussein Osama and his nasty nose picking wife are finished. He is a freaking retard if he thinks he has a chance.

I have been laughing since yesterday at this loser's downfall and all you apologetic libs twisting yourself into pretzels once again defending the indefensible.

It's over and you know it Dems. Crawl back in your miserable little crap holes and don't come out again until 2012....LOL

Posted by: Trigger with an N | April 29, 2008 8:00 PM

Whats a spiritual advisor and why does my spirit need advise?

Posted by: god save my spirit | April 29, 2008 8:00 PM

polls consistantly show: the more educated you are, the more likely you are to vote for OBAMA

fact.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/106360/Obama-Dominates-Clinton-Among-College-Graduates.aspx

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 8:00 PM

anyone who's payed any unbiased attention to Senator Obama's life and views already knows that Wright's views are not Obama's.

this whole idea of guilt by association sounds an awful lot like the rationalization of the Islamic radicals who justify their terrorism against Americans.

Posted by: lou | April 29, 2008 7:59 PM

OBAMA AND REV. WRIGHT ARE ONE AND THE SAME. OBAMA IS REV. WRIGHTS INNER SOUL AND TELLING AMERICANS HOW HE THINKS AND FEELS. OBAMA SAT IN REV. WRIGHTS PEW FOR 22 YEARS WITH HIS FAMILY AND CHILDREN.

OBAMA IS DISHONEST ABOUT HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH REV. WRIGHT.

OBAMA IS OUT OF TOUCH AND AND AN ELITIST THAT THINKS HE CAN JUST GET THE NOMINATION NOW REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS.

EMAIL AND YOUR SENATOR AND CONGRESSMAN AND TELL THEM HILLARY CLINTON IS OUR MAN. OBAMA IS A FRAUD.

OBAMA GOT HIS MONEY FROM SADDAM HUSSEIN'S UN OIL FOR FOOD PROGRAM. READ ABOUT NADHMI AUCHI IN FORBES, WASH POST NYT,AND CHICOAGO TRIBUNE.

Posted by: GRACE | April 29, 2008 7:59 PM

Of course the Ill senator would say "what ever the polician says to get elected;" unless he want to commit a "polical suicide." Do we trust his "latest damage controlled." I don't, since he repeatedly said the "reverant was my spiritual advisor" for twenty years.

Posted by: kp1943@comcast.net | April 29, 2008 7:58 PM

OBAMABOTS remind me of Stepford wives! You really believe OBAMA, this is so transparent, and way to late. This is NOT what OBAMA said last week. How can he be President?????

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ionFwC1UUUw

Posted by: max | April 29, 2008 7:58 PM

delegate math:

Keep in mind those numbers go up if Florida and/or Michigan are counted. Also, nothing prevents the super delegates "announced" for Barack HUSSEIN Obama to retract tomorrow, if they wanted to, and all announce for Hillary DIANE Clinton.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 7:58 PM

Good Lou maybe you can hook up with SWF

Posted by: Racist | April 29, 2008 7:43 PM
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Actually I think he's a better fit for you...if he's fu$king you, you don't have to fu$k yourself, and one less child is being fu$ked all at the same time. There's some good you can do for this world, and I'm sure you'll get plenty of pleasure through it all.

Posted by: SingleWhiteFemale | April 29, 2008 7:57 PM

Vote McCain save 15% on your taxes

let the kids pay for it later

CAPITAL GAINS AT 15% TRICKLES DOWN

be patient if it not hit you yet its only been in effect for 5 years

Posted by: priviledge hedge fund manager | April 29, 2008 7:57 PM

its pretty silly to suggest obama agrees with wright. obama has shown far more consistantly than any other candidate that he is a reasonable and reasoned person

i was dragged into enough churches as a kid, and priests are virtually always kooks one way or another, thats just how it is. im just glad the parents never left me alone with one of those cultists.....

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 7:57 PM

It amazes me how dumb the American Voter is!!

Barry appeals to the black, to the young educated and everyone else.

Those that have blindly followed him into the la-la land that he is preaching, need to wake up and look around them.

The Media and Obama wants to BLAME WRIGHT for his submarining Obama over the weekend.

Obama has sat in this vipers snake pit for 20 years.. At the age of 22 he walked into the Viper's Pit with Wright. He spent 20 years... listening to the Viper, sharing thoughts and beliefs with the Viper Wright. (Like the King Cobra... spits out a vile poison for anyone who will listen.) Barry
has became immune to the poison... he has been exposed to it so long.. he thus has hidden beliefs, feelings towards Whites and Anti-America that HE CAN NOT address... because of this 20 years in the viper pit of VIPER WRIGHT. His entire family has been exposed and become part of that viper pit.

It is not guilt by association, it is guilt by lying with the Viper Wright in his Pit of young vipers... waiting to spread the Vipers truth throughout the United States.
As PRESIDENT of the United States he would be in the PRIME POSITION to spread the Viper's Poison.

WELCOME TO THE REAL HUSSEIN OBAMA AND FAMILY.

BEWARE THE BLACK WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING.

Posted by: MILLER51550 | April 29, 2008 7:57 PM

A person:

You forgot about the U.S. government causing HIV/AIDS as a means of killing off African-Americans and "God D*mn America!" Also, if you have more time, isn't his middle name actually HUSSEIN? I simply use his middle name (as I do Hillary's middle name) to educate people about little known facts -- for instance, HUSSEIN means "handsome" in Arabic -- did you know that? Are you similarly upset when someone from your side calls the GOP candidate "McBush"? That isn't even his real name.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 7:55 PM

countdown to victory
296 to 2024 Obama
433 to 2024 Clinton
408 elected 295 Supers to go

go OBAMA

Posted by: delegate math | April 29, 2008 7:51 PM

lou, are you making fun of me? i thought i was the only child molester here?

Posted by: Racist | April 29, 2008 7:51 PM

Another thing that made Obama so bad was the fact that Jeremiah Wright told everybody that he was there Praying with the Obama family when he announced his Run for the Presidency?

What an IDIOT? Didn't he know that that was supposed to be a SECRET?

Jeremiah, YOU'RE FIRED, you are not supposed to tell the truth about that!!!

Give him 3-5 days Jeremiah will be back on your TV Screens...


Posted by: Sycamore, VA | April 29, 2008 7:51 PM

Well, peabody3000, we at least agree that Hillary DIANE Clinton is the wrong choice for this country -- but this Wright controversy is not going away anytime soon -- here are some pending questions:

1) What if Obama, before running for President, did agree with Wright's views?

2) What if Obama STILL agrees and is simply lying about it?

3) None of that would matter to you?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 7:50 PM

I am so sick of reading these responses. To start, lets look at what Wright has said that makes him so controversial.

1. "America's chickens are coming home to roost."

If you saw what he was saying before that, you might understand what he was talking about.

"We took this country - by terror - away from the Sioux, the Apache, the Arrowac, the Comanche, the Arapaho, the Navajo. Terrorism. We took Africans from their country to build our way of ease and kept them enslaved and living in fear. Terrorism. We bombed Granada and killed innocent civilians, babies, non-military personnel. We bombed the black civilian community of Panama with stealth bombers and killed unarmed teenagers and toddlers, pregnant mothers and hard-working fathers. We bombed Kadafi's home and killed his child... We bombed Iraq, we killed unarmed civilians trying to make a living. We bombed a plant in Sudan to pay back for the attack on our embassy, killed hundreds of hard working people, mothers and fathers, who left home to go that day not knowing that they'd never get back home. We bombed Hiroshima. we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye. Kids playing in the playground, mothers picking up children after school, civilians, not soldiers, people just trying to make it day by day. We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and the Black South Africans, and now we are indignant. Because the stuff we have done over seas is brought back right into our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home - to roost."

Regarding Palestine, the topic is somewhat questionable. Though I believe Israel has a right to exist, Israels methods of suppressing detestable terrorists, such as Hamas, also has a negative effect on the Palestinians as a whole, such as the Gaza Strip blockade, which inadvertently fuels more anti Israel sentiment. I am not sure this counts as what one would call terrorism, but whatever. And no, I don't think this means he is an anti-semite.
Other than that, I dare you find anything in there that isn't true.
Just so you know, Kadafi is the leader of Libya who took power in a coup, but the point Wright is making is that we respond with violence and kill innocents.

Maybe I'll post more when I have the time. I would hardly call this hate speech. Also, stop calling Barack Obama Barack Hussein Obama, since the only reason you're doing that is to attach him to a negative stigma that his name has with Saddam Hussein. Its sick and racist.

Posted by: A person | April 29, 2008 7:49 PM

BrooklynGirl --

This is bigger than you can possibly imagine.

Frankly, Hillary should give you guys the Obama finger and just go enjoy her money.

Then we can elect a Republican and slash social programs to the bone.

You need Democrats more than they need you.

We don't even need Democrats.

You have no idea who you're dealing with, kid.


Posted by: | April 29, 2008 7:29 PM
---------------------------------------
Since you are so all mighty and powerful, why won't you tell her who she's dealing with. Obviously not much, because if you were as powerful as you proclaim, Hillary wouldn't be begging for $5 donations everytime she's able to get a mike from the media. What you are obviously is someone who thinks more highly of yourself than you ought to. And why the continuous comments about social programs? Are you "assuming" that BroklynGirl is in dire need of social services? How racist your comments are--but, no like Gerldine, I'm certain you don't see yourself or your comments as racist...I guess I owe you an apology, huh???

Posted by: MD Voter | April 29, 2008 7:49 PM

america has paid a huge tragic price for electing another bu$h

why in the world would it want another clinton???

OBAMA '08

enough with the political dynasties

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 7:48 PM

I pray for change.

I pray we deal with issues not associtions with a pastor of a church with 1000's of members who have never heard those stupid words and are manly white..

I pray that I can afford food and gas

I will vote for Obama

Posted by: I love Hillary Supporters | April 29, 2008 7:47 PM

pastorgate is just like bittergate... political fluff... delivered like so many political fluffers crowding this board, paid to pretend that hillary isnt the wrong choice for this country

if hillary is the right candidate, then why must she lie and act at every turn??

hmmm????

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 7:46 PM

OBAMA ! Remember Larry Sinclair? If you know that you can't hide it, why didn't you drop out of the race from the beginning and save the Democratic Party hundred of millions dollars?
Larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:43 PM

"I guess it is like shooting a beloved horse with a broken leg."

Please, don't give the nutjobs like ROCKY (above) any ideas!

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 7:43 PM

Right On, Senator Obama!

The choice is clear!

Choose Anger and Fear...OR...Hope and Dreams!

Senator Obama has addressed Rev. Wright's Anger and Fear.
Senator Obama will now address Hillary Clinton's Anger and Fear.

Posted by: Ricky Galileo | April 29, 2008 7:43 PM

Good Lou maybe you can hook up with SWF

Posted by: Racist | April 29, 2008 7:43 PM

I love Obama even tho his paster says stupid things

I love Hillary even tho she says things that tiny fibs

go OBAMA

Posted by: I love Hillary Supporters | April 29, 2008 7:42 PM

I am a child molester.

Posted by: lou | April 29, 2008 7:41 PM

Amazing moment today. It brought tears to my eyes watching Barack end his 20 year relationship with Rev Wright. It is a terrible shame but I guess it is like shooting a beloved horse with a broken leg.

Posted by: Bob, DC | April 29, 2008 7:40 PM

hillary and mccain come from the same political machine

only obama is independant enough to do the right thing for this country

hillary votes for wars, mccain supports another 100 years of war in iraq

only obama had the good sense to be against the war before it was the politically expedient thing to do

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 7:40 PM

I love Hillary and her supporters no matter what I read her.

go OBAMA

I love hillary supporters no matter what I read here.

go OBAMA

I pray for forgiveness of Rev Wrongs stupid words

I pray for change

go OBAMA

Posted by: I love Hillary Supporters | April 29, 2008 7:39 PM

The "Pastor" is supposed to be the leader.

Wright is just like any other pastor, manager, security guard, policeman and politician, he wants to be the Big "Man" in the room.


"I'm not going to vote for a Barack now, beacuse his preacher says America is bad."

He just might have a reason for saying it...

This country has a lot of good qualities
and I don't want to live anywhere else. As a matter of fact, the farther South I go in America, the better I feel.

The only thing I ask any of you that may be considering voting for Obama, but is concerned about Rev. Wright, know that the USA government does NOT considered Jeremiah Wright a threat. So, you shouldn't either.

Jeremiah Wright is over 70 years old and many of you never heard of him before this campaign. That should be your biggest CLUE. If he was such a threat as LOUD as he talks you would have heard of him now.

Just like Farrakahn, when has the USA government issued a warrant for his arrest. These men are not your enemy, they are your friends. They only wants what is best for everyone.

The US Constitution and Ammendments gave Rev. Wright, Rev. Falwell, Billy Graham and Louis Farrakahn the right to practice as they choose.


Posted by: OneFreeMan | April 29, 2008 7:38 PM

Sounds to me like Mr Obama was asleep for most of his time at Rev Wright's church LOL! I find this so So SO funny! Interesting we don't hear much from Mamma Obama, Mrs. "proud of America for the 1st time in my adult life." Yes, he said tapping his fingertips together, "Interesting."

Posted by: Jason | April 29, 2008 7:38 PM

MD --

We've got a lot more.

You need Democrats more than they need you.

Hillary's got $100M.

How much do you and BrooklynGirl have in the bank?

How would you like to be drafted?

Hillary doesn't need any of you.

Neither do we.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:37 PM

mrs.:

You are, obviously, not a Hillary supporter. Nice try though ; )

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 7:36 PM

Bill, that is simply not true. There are a number of African American AND white people in this country who hold militant and racist views. Reverend Wright is one of them. As is the man quoted a week ago in the NY Times as saying, "The world is not ready for a black president."

I am neither black nor white, and I've heard my mother say many disparaging and insensitive things about African Americans, gays, and other ethnic groups.

Our one great hope is that a much smaller percentage of young people hold these views than did their parents, grandparents, and beyond.

Posted by: P Diddy | April 29, 2008 7:36 PM

Oh wow you got me on the grammer.

Get a man

Be happy.

Or get a dike whatever floats your boat.
You clearly support Obama

So you have two problems

Single and stupid

Probably explains the singlness

Hehe

Posted by: Racist | April 29, 2008 7:36 PM

Obama finally HEARD Wright. He is only 20 years too late.

Posted by: Jack Straw | April 29, 2008 7:36 PM

Mrs --

I'm sure you'll be very happy with President McCain.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:34 PM

Obama is so slick, but here the evidence he can not deny. On the TV program THE VIEW, Obama declared that Reverend Wright accepted that his view were inappropriate and mischaracterized. Then weeks later Wright goes on a national Hate America Press Tour? Just goes to prove how immature and green Obama is. And this is being generous. Watching this video one can only conclude Obama simply lied. Go ahead check it out yourselves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6J7yJ9R5p0

Posted by: Kay Lani Ray Rafko | April 29, 2008 7:33 PM

Yes, Jeremiah Wright has made some controversial remarks, but remember he has done some great things. So have Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. Double standard!

Posted by: Anyonebutmccain | April 29, 2008 7:33 PM


I am a Hillary Clinton supporter and a suburban professional mother of two intelligent and beautiful children ranging from 9 to 12 years old. Promoting strong Christian family values and integrity is very important to me. I have to say that I have a problem with Senator Clinton's decision to remain with her husband after he committed adultery in such a public way. I am troubled that she never offered an apology to the American people and Monica Lewinski after it was confirmed that her husband lied about the sexual involvement. This especially since Mrs. Clinton had accused ken Star of being on a right wing witch-hunt and called Monica a liar. I can understand Hillary defending her husband when she didn't have knowledge that he lied. However, she should have demonstrated character by apologizing to the American people afterwards.
I also find it troubling that she accuses Barack Obama of being guilty by third party association to rev Farrakhan. But does she really have moral standing in this area since her husband is an impeached, adultery who she decided to stay with?
My 9 year old daughter watched the Bosnia "misstatement" incident reported in the media and asked me to explain the difference between a misstatement and a Lie. It was an interesting topic and I was aware of the potential mine-field. I carefully responded to my daughter by saying:
"It is Senator Clinton's belief that she made a human mistake when she re-told the events of the Bosnia trip to be slightly different that the actual occurrence, therefore she feels it is was misstatement since her version was not changed deliberately"
My daughter followed up by asking why Mrs. Clinton repeated the incorrect version on 3 separate occasions with such specific, vivid clarity- she was also curious to know why Chelsea Clinton confirmed her mother's version to be factual when asked by the media. Why would Mrs. Clinton encourage Chelsea to lie on her behalf if it was a mistake, she queried? My daughter then asked if I was satisfied with the explanation given by the Senator. At that point I was unable to defend Mrs. Clinton any further as I too was unable to reconcile the given explanation. I immediately closed the discussion by telling my daughter that we should not be so quick to judge people.
I later had an uncomfortable feeling that I did not handle the discussion very well and attributed the reason to my belief that Senator Clinton did not demonstrate integrity with the Bosnia incident. I believe that her questionable credibility is why her negative rating is becoming a problem. I know in my heart she lied but left with the optics of the alternate choice I feel that I must continue to support her. Also, considering my priority on integrity and Christian family values- What advice can my fellow Hillary supporters offer so I can go back to my daughter and continue this important topic?


Posted by: mrs | April 29, 2008 7:33 PM

Every ethnic group in the United States, as we mixed our races and ethnicities, learned to cooperate and find common ground. Not blacks. Of course this is an over-generalization, perhaps a stereotype. But I am talking about blacks who are militant like Wright, who follow such angry attitudes, instead of trying to blend in, at least in a more salesman-like, more positive attitude. A black person who is cooperative is automatically labeled a Jim Crow or an Uncle Tom. I'm sure that many blacks believe Mr. Obama is such a person, yet it's hard to pin that on him, since he is half white, yet has worked in the black community, certainly fulfiling that demand to "not forget where one comes from."

I believe that much of black people's difficulty in the business and political worlds is based on a reputation for belligerence. Who wants to work with a belligerent person, white or black? Business is about deals and compromise.

I'm sorry. Is this a racist view point? I'm white.

Posted by: Bill | April 29, 2008 7:33 PM

lou:

Why do you think I am a racist?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 7:32 PM


Mr. Obama is SUCH a con artist.

He's convinced he can talk his way out of EVERYTHING

He's convinced himself that everyone BELIEVES EVERYTHING he says.

Someone better tell him he's got that ALL WRONG

We see Obama for the con artist he is

The American Idol act for months - REFUSING to answer questions We The People were asking in this job interview

Mr. Obama thinks the Presidency is a HAND OUT

Another HAND OUT FOR OBAMA

He thinks he DESERVES THE PRESIDENCY OF THE UNITED STATES

WITHOUT ANSWERING QUESTIONS HE GOT VOTES

HE WON'T GET THEM IN NOVEMBER

SUPER DELEGATES BETTER KNOW THAT

OBAMA'S HOODWINKIN DAYS ARE DONE

HE IS SEEN FOR THE DO NOTHING, CONTINUAL DISTANCER THAT HE IS

HE THINKS HE CAN WALK AWAY AND TALK TALK TALK AWAY EVERYTHING IN HIS PAST THAT PEOPLE DON'T LIKE

MR OBAMA THINKS HE CAN TALK HIS WAY OUT OF TROUBLE

REAL EASY

MR. EASY STREET

MR. GIMMIE THAT THING I WANT

WHAT A SPOILED CHILD HE MUST HAVE BEEN

WELL - GROWN UPS ARE VOTING - AND THEY ARE SAYING

NOBAMA

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:31 PM

peabody --

Keep it up and you'll get a close up look at the war.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:31 PM

gbooksdc:

I was QUOTING Elieen's use of the words "sick sermons" -- while off-topic, I have no qualms with Hiroshima and Nagasaki -- and, if you care to double-check the earlier thread, I did call a foul on svreader's personal attack.

As you said "words mean things".

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 7:30 PM

If Clinton wins the nomination, I hope she doesn't offer Obama the VP slot. Obama's not a good man.

First, he threw his grandmother under the bus. Now his pastor.

He didn't seem to notice what Wright was saying until today, when the latest polls came out.

Obama's candidacy has destroyed this man's ministry, his life of works and put him under a national microscope as the icon of black racism.

I feel sorry for the old racist. He didn't ask for any of this, and when he tries to defend himself (however inartfully), he just invokes greater vilification and threats.

He can't win. He's standing between Obama and the White House and if he doesn't shut up, Obama supporters and the media will make his life a living hell.

I do feel sorry for Wright. Welcome to the world of power. Why would Wright think a black man in power would be any different than a white man in power? it's power that corrupts, not skin color.

Posted by: Annette Keller | April 29, 2008 7:30 PM

i went to a kkk meeting. no, i went to kkk meeting at least once a week. now i did not talk, i did not even listen. the head of the kkk is my mentor and i ask his opinion on things like marriage and how to raise my kids.
i give them money.
but dont say i support the kkk. dont say i agree with the kkk.
would anyone believe me if i said that?
so why do you believe obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:29 PM

hillary and mccain have a lot more in common with bu$h than they do with obama

enough said..........

OBAMA '08

no more war criminals in the white house

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 7:29 PM

I'm not sure I get it with the big deal over Rev Wright. Certainly, if he cares at all, friend, he is not doing Obama any favors with his nationwide media blitz. But I have lots of friends and acquaintences that have much different views than I do. If they express those views, what the heck, it does not reflect what I believe or how I would conduct my life. Let Wright be Wright and let Obama express what he DOES believe rather than trying to explain what and why he doesn't. I certainly can't explain why some of my friends believe what they do and since I'm not running for president I don't have to worry about it. The candidates should have to worry about it a lot less than they do.

Posted by: gjhinnova@yahoo.com | April 29, 2008 7:29 PM

BrooklynGirl --

This is bigger than you can possibly imagine.

Frankly, Hillary should give you guys the Obama finger and just go enjoy her money.

Then we can elect a Republican and slash social programs to the bone.

You need Democrats more than they need you.

We don't even need Democrats.

You have no idea who you're dealing with, kid.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:29 PM

Does Obama take us all to be fools. He has been a part of this church for over 20 years and has never heard his pastor make these type of comments. This is precisely what is wrong with politics today. These politicans tell us something we know is not true and the media never follows up. This lie is worse than what Wright actually said.

Posted by: John | April 29, 2008 7:28 PM

I give Obomya a month at most. People aren't going to just brush off the fact that he sat in the pews for 20 years listening to the same crap he heard over the weekend to just now have a brain fart.

Please..... he should have not denounced Wright that was stupid on his part. He should have ignored it. He spoke on it once, that should have been enough.

By denouncing now, he admits he was wrong for 20 years

Posted by: Obama gone in a month | April 29, 2008 7:28 PM

The day that Fox News rolls out Donohue on a daily basis to rail against John Hagee/McCain and his anti-Semitic, anti-Catholic diatribes is that day that I start giving them -- and hacks like Lowry credit for applying standards equally.

McCain's embrace of a guy who blames Catholics for the Holocaust -- an endorsement that McCain actually sought out -- becomes a legitimate political issue.

Everybody wins.

I haven't even talked about Clinton and "The Family". God bless them.

Posted by: JP2 | April 29, 2008 7:27 PM

to Jake D & the rest of you sick little racist wankers. can any of you stand up to the kind of character analysis you are dishing out? i don't think so, i don't think anyone can. your posts are just a lame exercise in trying to make yourselves feel like you are worth the air you breath. very doubtful. why don't you pencil necked twerps go back to your magazines in the bathroom?

Posted by: lou | April 29, 2008 7:27 PM

I'm am racist, and your a single white female because?

Posted by: Racist | April 29, 2008 7:06 PM

Is this a question or a statement. What I know for sure is that you are a Hillary supporter. Lesson #1 I'm and I am are the same so you don't need to repeat "am" after using "I'm" and #2 your represents ownership, so are you trying to say that I own a single white female. Normally I would excuse gramatical errors in postings, but your entire post is a gramatical error. Get an education and then come back to the blog.

Posted by: SingleWhiteFemale | April 29, 2008 7:27 PM

As someone based in Europe I find the use of religion in the pursuit of high office and indeed in public life more generally both disturbing and bizarrely medieval! Keep religion private and any person invoking the divine, Obama included, while pursuing the dream to lead the free world some day must be viewed with deep suspicion. Eight years of Bush is enough reminder that politics and religion do not mix. Just because Obama is liberal and left of the political spectrum doesn't somehow make the abuse of religion for narrow political gain any more acceptable. What saddens me most is the fact that his solid support base is amongst the so called 'youth', who remain immune to his lofty, pontificating, holier than thou stance from day one on the campaign trail... It seems America loves to shoot itself in the foot: First eight years of right wing religion and it now looks like the world will have to deal with left wing religious dogma!! Disheartening in the extreme!

Posted by: Ad | April 29, 2008 7:27 PM

So Obama no longer needs his Pastor Jeremiah Wright huh?

What did Wright say yesterday morning that Obama didn't know already except to say that Obama himself is just another politician???

After 20 years of sitting in his pew he just know the guy? Maybe Obama looks at the polls this morning and found out that the trajectory is down. What an actor and a fraud?

My gues is that Obama's next person he'll divorce is Michelle Obama? And why is that?

For stating that America is a "MEAN" country. And for saying that she never felt proud of her country for the first time in her adult life.

Now that Jeremiah is out of the picture, the media may focus their attention back to Michelle next.

What about his BITTER comments in San Francisco? Stay tune... Maybe he just needs to divorce the Pretender Obama from REAL Obama.

What an amazing drama this has been ???

Posted by: Sycamore, VA | April 29, 2008 7:27 PM

This is a pathetic little stunt.


Wright of last month is the same guy as this month.


Obama has known him for 20 years.


Posted by: Words of Wisdom | April 29, 2008 7:25 PM

Like any politician Obama is a shameless panderer to those from whom he hopes to illicit support. He will do whatever is necessary to gain the nomination, including changing his views in accordance with what he perceives to be prevailing opinion. Now he must denounce Rev. Wright; they discussed the likelihood of this last year as reported recently in this paper. So the hypocrisy of it should surprise only the most uninformed or otherwise naive.
Obama's story reminds me in many ways of the insipid 1986 movie "Soul Man", albeit with the key difference that Obama only started pretending to be black *after* graduating from Harvard. Despite an upbringing that was whiter and more privileged than that of most whites, he is black enough for most of the American electorate for whom it makes any difference; know wad'm sayin' "G"?
Obama--quintessentially a one-dimensional (race) candidate with nothing more going for him than charisma--has clumsily exposed another dimension of ridiculousness in America's identity politics: upper-class liberal whites will vote for him (as a black man) as long as nothing about him challenges their selective colorblindness, while blacks will vote for him en masse simply because he (says he) is black.
Now, in "response" to Wright, he has to effectively reassure voters by saying "I'm not *that* black", in his best Harvard accented English. Will black voters comprehend the gravity of this or see through Obama's long unchallenged subterfuge to ingratiate himself to them?
The cynicism of Obama's various, pathologically disturbing self-representations are as great as the stupidity of America's adoration of him is staggering.
Nevertheless, if the Wright scandal had occurred in January, Clinton's prospects for receiving the Democratic party's nomination would likely be very different indeed. Obama's exponentially increasing lack of credibility--of the destruction of formerly effective illusions--make it unlikely that he can beat McCain in November.

Posted by: MJM | April 29, 2008 7:25 PM

Obamabots are still drinking that kool aid. Obama is NOT a President!! Maybe a university professor, a book writer or certainly a speech maker. It's time for Obama and his supporters to admit that he is not qualified nor capable of being the President. He can get his desired millions of dollars without making all the rest of suffer for the next 4 or 8 years if he were to become President. Obama is ambitious, but ONLY for himself.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:24 PM

mccain and hillary both will let the US continue to sink into the abyss that bu$h has worked so hard to create

this country needs obama

why are neocons so afraid of obama? because: saving america will cost the politically connected some money

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 7:22 PM

When is someone going to ask the question that a white candidate would be hounded by:

Are you withdrawing from the race for President?

Posted by: Tom | April 29, 2008 7:22 PM

>>> "P Diddy: Do you have children? Do you take them with you to hear your "wacko Pastor" preach? When you run for office, you can be just like Obama."

As I said, I attend the Church because a ton of folks in the community in which I live also attend. It's a great way to socialize with my neighbors, figure out a common way to get the drugs out of our neighborhood (we've come up with lots of fun ways to pester dealers around here until they get sick of us and move along), and work with the business community to eliminate club and bar-related violence. I'm not religious by any means...my personal journey on the spiritual front has a long, long way to go, I think.

In any event, your subtle sanctimony is asinine. You don't live in this neighborhood (comprised predominantly of new condos, numerous bars and clubs, and rife with homelessness and drugs in every alleyway and often in plain view). People who live here are not by any means "rich", but they are all reasonably self-sufficient and are more often than not first-time homeowners. They've saved for the bulk of their young adult lives to buy in to a good neighborhood, and yet are presented with human waste on their doorsteps every morning, needles and condoms in the alleyways, and homeless people strewn about. As someone who is something of a "community organizer" (and "rabble rouser"), the Church is one way for me to reach out to the civic-minded within the community.

Bringing it back to the point of this thread...I disagree vehemently with my preacher's point of view. But life is rarely as simplistic as you've portrayed. My preacher may be bigoted towards gays and lesbians, but he is a great conduit through which I can reach his congregation and rally them around making a positive change in the neighborhood. Likewise, I may disagree with some of the ways clubs in my neighborhood market their venues (bringing in an undesirable element), but I work with them rather than against them.

While the media (and some of the simpletons who post here) would like to portray everything as a cut and dried issue, rarely in life are things so (uh) black and white. Often, you accept an odious alternative on one hand to achieve greater progress on the other.

If I turned out to be half the man Obama is, I would consider myself lucky.

Posted by: P Diddy | April 29, 2008 7:21 PM

I'm a conservative republican and plan to vote for McCain, but I heartily applaud Mr. Obama. What courage it must take to publicly denounce the words of someone you've known personally for 20 years. I see Obama's integrity and sensitivity to all races, and very much appreciate it.

Posted by: JimtheSkinsFan | April 29, 2008 7:21 PM

It's too late for a retraction, he should have done this the first time this guy torpedoed him. He seems to easily influenced by this Wright guy, his judgement is very questionable. The question you must ask yourself "do you want someone influenced like this as the leader of the free world" .... Change is not enough...

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:21 PM

NRO -- Tuesday, April 29, 2008

BARACK OBAMA

Obama's Philadelphia Speech Looks Ridiculous Now

To refresh, here's what Obama said in that Philadelphia speech... the first time he addressed the issue of Jeremiah Wright's controversial statements. Here are the sections on Wright:

I have already condemned, in unequivocal terms, the statements of Reverend Wright that have caused such controversy. For some, nagging questions remain. Did I know him to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course. Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes. Did I strongly disagree with many of his political views? Absolutely - just as I'm sure many of you have heard remarks from your pastors, priests, or rabbis with which you strongly disagreed.
Considering how Wright has compared the U.S. to al-Qaeda, calling him "an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic foreign policy" now sounds like comical understatement. Like calling William Ayers just a professor who lives in the neighborhood, I guess.
Given my background, my politics, and my professed values and ideals, there will no doubt be those for whom my statements of condemnation are not enough. Why associate myself with Reverend Wright in the first place, they may ask? Why not join another church? And I confess that if all that I knew of Reverend Wright were the snippets of those sermons that have run in an endless loop on the television and You Tube, or if Trinity United Church of Christ conformed to the caricatures being peddled by some commentators, there is no doubt that I would react in much the same way.
After an hour at the press club, those snippets were not refuted but reinforced. Selective editing doesn't make Wright appear extreme; Wright makes Wright appear extreme.
But the truth is, that isn't all that I know of the man. The man I met more than twenty years ago is a man who helped introduce me to my Christian faith, a man who spoke to me about our obligations to love one another; to care for the sick and lift up the poor. He is a man who served his country as a U.S. Marine; who has studied and lectured at some of the finest universities and seminaries in the country, and who for over thirty years led a church that serves the community by doing God's work here on Earth - by housing the homeless, ministering to the needy, providing day care services and scholarships and prison ministries, and reaching out to those suffering from HIV/AIDS.
When he reaches out to those suffering from HIV/AIDS, does Wright tell them the U.S. government created the virus that ails them?

And this helps explain, perhaps, my relationship with Reverend Wright. As imperfect as he may be, he has been like family to me. He strengthened my faith, officiated my wedding, and baptized my children. Not once in my conversations with him have I heard him talk about any ethnic group in derogatory terms, or treat whites with whom he interacted with anything but courtesy and respect. He contains within him the contradictions - the good and the bad - of the community that he has served diligently for so many years.

The "not once have I heard him" line sounds particularly implausible today.

I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community.
Obama has now disproven this. Also note how this statement echoes Wright's insistence that he is not being criticized, but that the entire black church is under attack.
I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother - a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.
This looked ridiculous at the time, but I wonder how Obama feels about this maddening comparison now.

These people are a part of me. And they are a part of America, this country that I love.
Some will see this as an attempt to justify or excuse comments that are simply inexcusable. I can assure you it is not. I suppose the politically safe thing would be to move on from this episode and just hope that it fades into the woodwork. We can dismiss Reverend Wright as a crank or a demagogue, just as some have dismissed Geraldine Ferraro, in the aftermath of her recent statements, as harboring some deep-seated racial bias.

But race is an issue that I believe this nation cannot afford to ignore right now. We would be making the same mistake that Reverend Wright made in his offending sermons about America - to simplify and stereotype and amplify the negative to the point that it distorts reality.

In light of events in the past 72 hours, a lot of this looks ridiculous now.

Can we dismiss Reverend Wright as a crank or a demagogue? Yes we can, no irony intended. Those of us who were shocked and appalled by those first clips of Wright's sermons were right, and Barack Obama, and all of those who accused us of judging Wright unfairly, were wrong.

UPDATE: Pollowitz notices on Obama's campaign site an invitation to "Make a donation of $30 or more before midnight on Wednesday, April 30th, and receive a DVD and limited edition print of Barack's "A More Perfect Union" speech on race in America."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:20 PM

Obama, his fanatical supporters and the media (i.e. Obama fanatical supporters) created this problem.

"Wright retired from his weekly preaching duties in March. Almost simultaneously, the controversy began. Since then his life has been threatened, as has his church. The media barrage was so intense that some reporters apparently called a hospice in an attempt to speak to a dying Trinity member."

Wright retired as pastor of Trinity Church after this flap first erupted in mid-March, to help Obama, and that was a big thing for him to do for Obama. But then it appears he was held responsible for Obama's loss in PA, which was Obama's failure, not Wright's. And Obama's fanatical supporters threatened him.

The harassment and threats by Obama supporters and harassment by the press wasn't Wright's job to bear.

Wright even said it clearly: he's not a politician, he's a pastor.

Obama caused this problem because he's tried to lie about what he sat there for 20 years and listen to.

The Obama campaign and the pro-Obama media has tried to pull off a snow job, deceiving the public about Obama's ties to racists and terrorists. Their efforts to spin and cover up Wright's racist and terrorist-hugging sentiments blew up in their faces when Wright came out and defended himself.

Obama, his campaign and the media is responsible for this debacle, not Wright.

Wright is who he is, for better or worse. It's not his job to eat sh-- , be publicly degraded and misrepresented and have his life destroyed to help Obama's campaign. He didn't ask to have one of his parishioners run for President, put his ministry under a national microscope, and be reduced to a figure of national disgrace as a black racist.

Obama threw his grandmother under the bus and now Wright.

Obama's an ambitious, shallow man and as far as Wright is concerned, I actually feel sorry for the old racist.

Posted by: Annette Keller | April 29, 2008 7:20 PM

Eileen:

What if Obama, before running for President, agreed with Wright's "sick sermons"? What if Obama STILL agrees and is simply lying about it? None of that would matter to you?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 3:29 PM
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Oh stop. When I said svliar attacked people personally, you said you didn't think he did. So I trotted out (by my memory) six examples -- cites -- of his calling people gay, including me. Not a mumbling word of denunciation for your fellow Obama-hater.

You're not intellectually honest, so there is no point in your acting as though you are reasonable. And since you called Wright's sermons -- not what he uttered over the past few days, but his sermons -- as "sick", you must endorse the genocide of the native American, the 500,000 dead Iraqis, the innocents we nuked in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Because the most conservative reading of the Commandment is "Thou shalt not murder", and I'm thinking, as those acts came pretty close to the line, God's judgment might not be too favorable on those items.

As Rush says, "words mean things."

Posted by: gbooksdc | April 29, 2008 7:20 PM

OBAMA SUPPORTERS ARE THE BEST RECRUITING TOOL THE REPUBLICANS EVER HAD.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:18 PM

Wow, you are very powerful. Funny, you can do all these things, but you just can't get enough votes to win the nomination; so you have to stoop to levels of threatening super delegates. How pathetic. Ooooow we are scared of you. One question, why are you hiding behind your post without a name? Are you the new white pointed cap?

Obama supporters --

There are more of us in New York than there are of you.

LOTS MORE.

If Obama gets the nomination, he will lose.

Then he will be indicted for what he did in Chicago.

Then he will go to jail.

Hillary will have her choice.

She can be reelected.

Or she can enjoy her $100M.

We will cut off funds for social programs.

We will bring back the draft.

We will repeat Row v Wade.

Don't you ever threaten us.

We have more people, money, and power than you do.

You have set civil rights back 50 years.

If you want a war, we will give you one.


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Posted by: MD Voter | April 29, 2008 7:18 PM

Glad-to-be-an-American:

And, what if he loses Indiana?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 7:17 PM

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms Lewinsky." Those poignant and infamous words still resonate whenever the Clintons are mentioned. It unfortunately reminds us of when President Clinton committed purgery before the nation by lying about his sexual involvement with a young Whitehouse intern under his charge. It was a despicable sight to behold and one of the lowest points of the American Presidency. Americans watched as Mr. Clinton shamelessly attempted to assassinate the reputation, credibility and honor of the young woman by knowingly providing false witness to a grand jury. He and his wife also embarked on a campaign to demonize the counsel assigned to investigate the case by calling him a right wing conspirator on a witch-hunt.

Supporters of the president [in particular the blacks] seized upon the red-meat tossed by their leader and rallied to his defense. They were convinced by his unequivocal denial that he was innocent of the charges and remained supportive even when the grand jury investigation concluded that he was a liar and adulterer. Consequently, the integrity bankrupted President was impeached, disbarred from practicing Law and asked to resign. He however refused to turn over the reigns to Al Gore and selfishly remained in office. The imprudent decision further damaged the Democratic Party's efforts to conduct meaningful business for the remainder of his term. Additionally, his scandalous reign caused a backlash from the public and the party was punished at subsequent general elections. George Bush, in his victory speech rebuked the philandering ex-President for squandering his potential and vowed to restore "integrity" to the Whitehouse. Despite his political woes and character flaws, the charismatic Bill Clinton continued to receive overwhelming support from the naïve black community after he left the presidency. "Bill is a genuine friend and we will not abandon him during a difficult period", they posited. In appreciation for their loyalty, the ex-president established his office in Harlem and stated that he was committed to championing "black" causes.

It is now 2008 and again the polarizing Clintons who were instrumental in causing the Democrats to loose two consecutive attempts at recapturing the Whitehouse are in play. This time however, the black community saw the unmasking of the previous first family. African Americans at the beginning of the primary threw their full support behind Hillary Clinton's candidacy for president but had an awakening when the Clintons began to make comments that were deemed racially patronizing, polarizing and disrespectful. The media seized upon the change in tone and conversations began about the authenticity of the Clintons claims to be great allies of the civil rights movement. Blacks had always held the political couple in esteemed reverence and now felt betrayed. In hypocritical irony they [the blacks] recalled the Clinton's ruthless traits during the Monica Lewinsky issue but neglected to mention that they were equally guilty because of the morale support provided to the President in his efforts to crush the young, powerless and vulnerable intern. Black leaders began to murmur that the Clintons seemed to have been wolves in sheep clothing and questioned their commitment to help fulfill the dream and aspirations to ascend to the highest office in the land. Was it perhaps that the Clintons share the argument advanced in some areas that blacks are not worthy to hold such a position due to an inferior birth"?, they asked. They expressed genuine confusion at the vigorous attempts to bloody up Obama's Presidential candidacy and became soured on the once enamored Clintons. "An enemy who dwells in the disguise of a friend within one's midst is far formidable a foe than the one who can be openly identified", they posit.

But are the Clintons closeted Bigots as many observers now imply- or are they simply ruthless, selfish power hungry politicians who believe that they are entitled to rule damn the cost? Whatever the answer, it is indisputable that some of their tactical conduct in this election primary are highly questionable. Many democratic voters expressed outrage and great disappointment when the Clinton team compared New Mexico's Governor Bill Richardson to the Biblical Judas. This is a despicable label and should not be misused for political mileage by people who profess to be of Christian background, they lamented. Even-though the comment was extremely mean spirited- it unfortunately crystallizes a character assassination strategy come to be expected from the Clinton team. "It's not as if he [Bill Richardson] switched political party allegiance- he is still a committed democrat", some grumble. "The Governor should insist that the Clintons retract such a damaging, divisive and hurtful remark", chided party members. Perhaps team Clinton should be reminded that Senator Obama is a Democratic colleague and it is John McCain who is the Republican nemesis. Seemingly disillusioned, blacks tout their decades of loyalty to the party, however should Hillary get the nomination vow to show up at the voting booth come November to register their votes for McCain. After-all, it was the Clintons who departed from democratic principles by publicly endorsing John McCain to be more qualified than a colleague to lead the nation. Casting their votes to the Republicans in protest could be a major disaster for the Democratic Party- they recognize that this ethnic group's participation is necessary to win the Whitehouse. Unlike Latinos who move between parties depending on their interest of the day, blacks are the party's most reliable voting block. The Democrats worries are backed up by a Pew Research Center report that found that blacks were twice as likely now than they were in 2004 to say they had little or no confidence in the fairness and effectiveness of the political system, rising to 29 percent from 15 percent. Increasingly it seems that the party will live up to their reputation of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Posted by: Republican | April 29, 2008 7:16 PM

Another day, another drama. It's amazing to see CNN falling over themselves to applaud the fraud - they are so blinded by Obama that they're about to fall under the bus along with all the typical white people, Obama's grandma, Rezko and the entire caste of characters in the tragedy that Obama's campaign has become. The saddest part of all is that people are still willing to believe that this empty sack could represent America. Maybe 8 years of Bush has set our expectations so low that we now demand a POTUS who can lie to us with impunity. Barack Obama is a conman.

Posted by: MelanieL | April 29, 2008 7:16 PM


Rev. Wright is obviously drunk on the recent media attention he has received and is merely seeking to increase his fame. If Obama and Wright have been 'so close' is the past, how can Wright possibly make these claims in the knowlegde that it will damage Barak's campaign? Lets not let this man have any affect on how the public view Obama.

Posted by: Willis | April 29, 2008 7:15 PM

And look who set up Wright's command performance...

HILLARY SUPPORTER AND POLITICAL DINASAUR DR. BARBARA REYNOLDS!

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/04/wrightsetup.html

Posted by: JBE | April 29, 2008 7:14 PM

What the frack is up with all these annon trolls gumming up the page with their nonsensical rants and bad ascii art? Do something, WaPo! Don't you have a registration mechanism to prevent this?

Prevent anonymous cowardice!

Posted by: Mason | April 29, 2008 7:14 PM

Peabody3000 --

Obama will NEVER be President.
If he's the Democratic nominee, we will elect McCain President.
You have turned the people who's votes you need into hardened enemies.
You're gloating now.
We will have the last laugh!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:14 PM

"Okay, if Ferraro is a racist for saying this what does Obama's comment make him?"

It doesn't make Ferraro racist. It makes her stupid for pointing out the obvious. We're not blind and she didn't need to say it.

Posted by: changingfaces | April 29, 2008 7:13 PM

OBAMA WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT!!!

YOU CAN TAKE THAT TO THE BANK!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:12 PM

bu$h has planted so many knives in the US' back. hillary will simply twist them, and mccain will simply let the political establishment have their way with what resources we have left

only someone like obama, a more recent newcomer than the clinton dynasty or the mccain out-of-touch exress, can pull this country out of a terrible decline

only obama was against the iraq war from the start. he knew then what 80% of americans today know now, that the war was a sham and a mistake

hillary's vote for war was bought and paid for by the status quo. she does not represent you or me. she represents the politically connected

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 7:12 PM

Looks like obama is losing his higher 'new politics' ground everday. The reality of politics sees him becoming increasingly as all politicians are, the do anything,say anything to fit with public opinion / perception.... Now he disowns his 20 + year life long friends and associates.... very loyal and straight...

Posted by: Bmolony | April 29, 2008 7:11 PM

Its great that Obama supporters have shown everyone their true colors (and I don't mean race!)

We hate you guys now.

We really, really, hate you.

You will reap what you have sown.

All the goodwill we felt for you is gone forever.

If Obama is the nominee, we will elect McCain.

Then, it will be payback time.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:11 PM

There was a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" quality to Obama's recent situation with Rev. Wright.

Although I attended the NAACP dinner and liked Wright's speech, I was appalled and ashamed of his antics during the National Press Club Q&A. Had Wright maintained the demeanor he had the night before in Detroit or on the Bill Moyers show, Obama could have stuck with the Philadelphia race speech position. But Wright didn't. On Monday morning, he made it impossible for Obama to stay silent.

Now the dreaded deed has been done and many people on this message board are STILL not happy with Obama. I can't believe that the many outraged comments on this message board reflect genuine concerns about the relationship between Obama and Wright. I do believe some of the writers won't be satisfied until they see Obama string Wright up to a tree. Get a grip, people.

We all have high ideals and aspirations. Yet to be a human being, there are times when we have to make tough decisions and make a choice that makes us look more human than a saint. Obama made a good, mature decision today. It hurt him to do it. It hurts me. It hurts millions of people in this country.

In light of these events, I believe that as President, Obama will try to be as diplomatic as possible with other countries as long as humanly possible.

Then he will take a deep breath and send out a warning shot. If that doesn't work, then he'll ramp up the shots until he either gets their attention to be more reasonable or he retaliates with force.

This will blow over in a few days, more super delegates will announce support for Obama, he'll win in Indiana and North Carolina and he'll get the nomination in June. We'll all take a summer vacation to rest and re-group and come back together to defeat McCain in November.

Posted by: Glad-to-be-an-American | April 29, 2008 7:10 PM

SingleWhiteFemale:

(Again) Those are not "racist" posts (unless you think YOUR post supposedly pointing out racism is also a "racist" post). People pretending to be racist are not racist. For instance, that was not me posting at 6:04 PM, but rather someone trying to paint me as a racist. Do you see the difference?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 7:09 PM

He pretty much said what anyone with an open mind could ask of him. The comments above about not trusting him? You decided you can't trust him anyway. The comments about just another politician? First off, he sounded pretty sincerely hurt by all of this. Secondly, he is seeking, among other things to be the head of the Democratic Party -- you need to be a politician to do that. Hillary is a politician; the problem is she seems to be nothing but a politician. There's no moral core there.

Bottom line, he addressed the issue. It's settled, it's done. He did everything short of explicitly state, "he's dead to me, now" (which would have been pretty cool, BTW). People will obviously continue to beat it to death; they're still running the "he's a closet Muslim" bit, so obviously, reality is not entering in the picture there. Even the Clintons are backing off this, showing even they have THAT much decency.

Posted by: gbooksdc | April 29, 2008 7:08 PM

Obama is a fake.

This is what Obama said to the Chicago Tribune:

Obama acknowledges, with no small irony, that he benefits from his race.

If he were white, he once bluntly noted, he would simply be one of nine freshmen senators, almost certainly without a multimillion-dollar book deal and a shred of celebrity. Or would he have been elected at all?

Now, this is what Liberal icon Ferraro said that got her called a racist:

"If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman of any color, he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept."

Okay, if Ferraro is a racist for saying this what does Obama's comment make him? Either the Obama campaign is very cynical or these are a bunch of Kool-aid drinkers who are ready to assassinate the character of even liberal icons like Ms. Ferraro.

Posted by: Its 1972 all over again! | April 29, 2008 7:07 PM

I'm am racist, and your a single white female because?

Posted by: Racist | April 29, 2008 7:06 PM

Obama, Wright, and Honesty [Rich Lowry]

What's been most disturbing about this entire episode is how dishonest Obama has been, from his pretense that he didn't know about Wright's radicalism to his excuse now that Wright has somehow become a different person. How insulting that he thinks we'd buy any of this. I was struck in the FNS interview how, when asked what controversial statements he had heard from Wright, he said Wright would talk "about some of the problems in the black community in very controversial ways." He probably did--but these were the most controversial things Obama heard? He was obviously trimming, trying to make Wright sound like an equal-opportunity hater. The simple thing for Obama to have done would have been to tell the truth from the beginning and say that he had made a mistake in staying at the church for so long, but he did so for complicated reasons that he could have spelled out in eloquent terms that would have made the press swoon. Instead, he did his dance in Philadelphia and uttered that line that will now haunt him. So now is Obama disowning the black community?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:06 PM

I believe Obama. I mean c'mon. How many people see police cars outside of their neighbors house and they are being carted away for some malfesance or another and you say:

"man, I had no idea that was going on in that house."

"I went to college with him...I had no idea he was selling dope."

"They seemed like the perfect family. Who would have known that he was sexually abusing his dauhter for years?"

"He used to coach my soccor team! Who knew he was abusing children?"

"I thought the girls were being taken care of. Who knew that their mother had murdered them 4 months ago?"

"She was a devoted mother and member of my church. I had no idea she had stolen hundreds of thousands of dollars from her employer."

I mean, are you all trying to say that you REALLY know your pastor, or your teacher, or your grocery store clerk for that matter? I mean, you would THINK you know them....but really, you know where they work, what their name is and maybe a hobby or two....until you see their myspace page...or see them carted away in handcuffs...or read about their miscreant behavior in the paper.

Why is it that nobody believes that Obama does not have power to truely know the deepest soul of everyone he meets? Is he now all seeing, all knowing, able to part the waters and walk across the dry ocean bed, and be all powerful as HRC says he is?

My pastor baptised my children and married my husband and I. And I too would act shocked and suprised if I later heard her say something that I didn't believe or agree with and then repeat it. Sorry, when I miss church, I don't go back and watch the video. And Obama is a busy politician who works for his people. I doubt he is in the pews every single Sunday and hanging onto every word. (I know I don't). For me, just because she's my pastor doesn't mean that I really know her. It's like people acting like they know celebrities or something. And that celebrities know you personally too b/c you watch their movies from the audience and may have been in the same room with you during a social event. C'mon. Get real here. That's not an act.

As for Rev Wright, he just goes to prove that there are some people who just can't stand to see someone else they know be successful and will do anything to drag the other person down just to make themselves look better. Pitiful. An MLK wannabe trying to milk his 15 minutes of fame while sucking everyone dry (and maybe sucking the life out of what should have been a very promising run for the Presidency for Obama).

Posted by: changingfaces | April 29, 2008 7:05 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:04 PM

I'm racist to anyone who doesn't have the balls to go out and get it for themsleves. I won't post my history but I've been through it and I'm white. My brother is married to a black woman and they have a beautiful daughter. It's not about skin color it's about the chip you carry on your shoulder that goes for whites, blacks, mexicans whoever. White people are a minority in this country period.
Obamas a fraud and I honestly don't believe he's a negro. I swear to GOD something tells me in my heart that he's got plans, bad plans for this country. If he get's voted in it will defenitely be the beginning of the end. PERIOD

Posted by: Racist | April 29, 2008 6:49 PM
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NEWSFLASH Racist! The beginning of the end started a little over 7 years ago. Where have you been, under a rock? As for whether you are a racist or not--negro, lol I can't recall the last time I heard that word being used. So your brother married a black woman and that's your justification for not being racist based upon race. I'll bet you have a pointed sheet that looks a lot like JakeD's. At least he has the balls to say he's a racist.

Posted by: SingleWhiteFemale | April 29, 2008 7:04 PM

I'm racist to anyone who doesn't have the balls to go out and get it for themsleves. I won't post my history but I've been through it and I'm white. My brother is married to a black woman and they have a beautiful daughter. It's not about skin color it's about the chip you carry on your shoulder that goes for whites, blacks, mexicans whoever. White people are a minority in this country period.
Obamas a fraud and I honestly don't believe he's a negro. I swear to GOD something tells me in my heart that he's got plans, bad plans for this country. If he get's voted in it will defenitely be the beginning of the end. PERIOD

Posted by: Racist | April 29, 2008 6:49 PM
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NEWSFLASH Racist! The beginning of the end started a little over 7 years ago. Where have you been, under a rock? As for whether you are a racist or not--negro, lol I can't recall the last time I heard that word being used. So your brother married a black woman and that's your justification for not being racist based upon race. I'll bet you have a pointed sheet that looks a lot like JakeD's. At least he has the balls to say he's a racist.

Posted by: SingleWhiteFemale | April 29, 2008 7:04 PM

BrooklynGirl:

No problem.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 7:03 PM

i wonder if hillary was able to co-opt the neocon attack machine, including the network of neocon trolls, by promising not to have bu$h tried for war crimes?

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 7:03 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:02 PM

To Texas Really Really SUCKS

I live in Dallas come get you some

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:01 PM

Texas internet coward, I'm in Louisiana. Tell me where you are and I'll drive over tomorrow and punch out your tooth.

Posted by: Texas Really Really SUCKS | April 29, 2008 6:59 PM

MD Voter:

I'd better quit while I'm ahead then ; )

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:59 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:59 PM

Sorry JakeD, and the word I meant to use was "inevitable".

Posted by: BrooklynGirl | April 29, 2008 6:59 PM


OBAMA SAYS HE'S BEEN "BRIDGING" PEOPLE?


WHERE????!!!!????


NOT IN THAT CHURCH FOR TWENTY YEARS !!!


DOES HE EVEN HEAR HIMSELF?

DOES HE THINK EVEYRTHING THAT FLOWS FROM HIS MOUTH IS SUCKED UP AND "BELIEVED" BY THE SMALL TOWN TYPICAL BITTER WHITE FOLK?


HE LOVES TO HEAR HIMSELF TALK TALK TALK TALK

WHILE WE'RE ALL GETTING SICK SICK SICK SICK

OF HEARING HIM AND LOOKING AT HIM

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:58 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:58 PM

All the fanatical, paid Obama shills are out today, blanketing the blogs.

Posted by: Annette Keller | April 29, 2008 6:58 PM

seems like the american public who just got introduced to wright knows more abour wright than Obama who sat in his church for 20 years

either Bara is dim, full of s... or.....

Posted by: lucci8 | April 29, 2008 6:58 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:57 PM

JakeD

You da bomb

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:56 PM


I wonder who is paying Wright for this stupidity.

He must want McCain to win - either that or McCain is the one paying him.

Or perhaps Hillary AND McCain are BOTH paying him - you can't blame the corrupt for trying to win at any cost - remember Tonya Harding?

Now why don't you ignore that stupid piece of trouble-making slime, WaPo, and try to help America choose the president which will get it on its feet again.

If we choose anything remotely like the last one, the U.S.A. is history, as are the current administration's Zionist puppeteers in the Middle East.

Posted by: wardropper | April 29, 2008 6:56 PM

Your all nuts [sic]:

If Edwards, Gore, and the super delegates help Hillary to STEAL this nomination from Obama, there will be rioting and most African-Americans will never vote for another Democrat again.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:31 PM

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JakeD, finally I can almost agree with one of your rants. Except for the rioting, your comment is right on point. And for the person who suggested that the African-Americans will vote for the GOP--get real, that will never happen. Unless Hillary wins this race right out (i.e. most elected delegates, I will sit out my first election in 30 years. However, if Hillary is able to pull an upset and recover by getting enough elected delegates from the last 10 states to pull ahead of Obama, I will vote for her in November--it's as simple as that.

Posted by: MD Voter | April 29, 2008 6:56 PM

Obama supporters --

There are more of us in New York than there are of you.

LOTS MORE.

If Obama gets the nomination, he will lose.

Then he will be indicted for what he did in Chicago.

Then he will go to jail.

Hillary will have her choice.

She can be reelected.

Or she can enjoy her $100M.

We will cut off funds for social programs.

We will bring back the draft.

We will repeat Row v Wade.

Don't you ever threaten us.

We have more people, money, and power than you do.

You have set civil rights back 50 years.

If you want a war, we will give you one.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:55 PM

Obama sure has developed a stutter in the last couple of weeks.

Posted by: Annette Keller | April 29, 2008 6:54 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:54 PM


OBAMA HAS BEEN STEALING VOTES FOR MONTHS

BY NOT ANSWERING QUESTIONS ABOUT HIMSELF

A RE-VOTE IN ALL STATES IN NOVEMBER WOULD BE DISASTER NOW THAT EVERYONE CAN SEE HIM FOR WHO HE IS - AND ISN'T


SUPER DELEGATES HAVE TO SAY NO TO THAT REVOTE

OBAMA HAS LOST MOMENTUM ? OBAMA WILL LOSE IN NOVEMBER BECAUSE OF WHO HE IS, HIS STORIES AND EXCUSES.

PEOPLE ARE SICK OF HIM AND HIS "CHANGING" STORIES

ANYONE LEFT TO THROW UNDER THE BUS?

THE WHITE HAIRED TROLLS PUPPETING HIM UP BETTER WATCH OUT.

HE'LL TOSS YOU ASIDE THE MOMENT HE GETS WHAT HE WANTS

IDIOTS

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:54 PM

Yea we do FuK A$$ but lets see them riot you dumb sumb biotch

Posted by: to Texas Sucks | April 29, 2008 6:52 PM

Juan:

Get you own thread -- I'm trying to break a record with this one -- this thread is about Obama denouncing Wright.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:52 PM


THAT LIST IS JUST AFGHANISTAN - NOT IRAQ

YOU PEOPLE DON'T KNOW OR EVEN WANT TO LOOK AT WHAT A DO NOTHING IMPOSTOR OBAMA IS

WHAT A SCARY THING - NOT BEING WILLING TO SEE WHO HE IS


THE ONLY "CHANGE" OBAMA IS ABOUT IS HIS STORIES, EXCUSES AND ANSWERS


HE IS A DO NOTHING

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:51 PM

Maybe it would be nice if McCain denounced his "Rev.Wrights" who endorsed him!

Posted by: Juan | April 29, 2008 6:51 PM

I'm racist to anyone who doesn't have the balls to go out and get it for themsleves. I won't post my history but I've been through it and I'm white. My brother is married to a black woman and they have a beautiful daughter. It's not about skin color it's about the chip you carry on your shoulder that goes for whites, blacks, mexicans whoever. White people are a minority in this country period.
Obamas a fraud and I honestly don't believe he's a negro. I swear to GOD something tells me in my heart that he's got plans, bad plans for this country. If he get's voted in it will defenitely be the beginning of the end. PERIOD

Posted by: Racist | April 29, 2008 6:49 PM

BrooklynGirl:

That was not me (as I've posted several times now) who claimed "I am a racist" -- for all I know, it was you -- also, "enviable" means "So desirable as to arouse envy." Are you sure you wanted to use that word?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:49 PM

Texas' home of assassinations (JFK) assassins (G, H, W. Bush) a$$hats (G. W. Bush) and turds like the hump above who is frustrated at the ankle monitor he earned for that "incident" with the little boy down the street. One that confines him to his grandma's basement where she employs him rinsing out her Depends undergarments.

In case you hadn't noticed "real American" Houston, Dallas, Austin, San Antonio and elsewhere have significant Black populations...go there and pump up your chest sissy.

Posted by: Texas Sucks | April 29, 2008 6:49 PM

Now we know sen. Obama's life is much more complicated than what he said in his best selling books and his speeches which has fascinnated millions . His famous speech on race in Philadelpha was highly praised by many people, in which he said he could not disown his pastor as well as the black community. Now he seems to change his mind. His books and speeches seldom talked about his troublesome past Chicago connections, i.e. Rev Wright, Tony Rezko and Bill Ayers. Those are his heavy baggages in this election. Now it is time for his supporters to find out who he really is.

Posted by: austin b | April 29, 2008 6:49 PM


IRAQ VOTE - SAME AS HILLARY

John Edwards
John Kerry
Tom Daschle - HEAD OF SENATE
Christopher Dodd
Joe Lieberman
John McCain
Joe Biden
Diane Feinstein
Trent Lott
Richard Lugar
Harry Reid
Rockefeller
Schumer

STUFF THE SICKO POSTINGS ABOUT DEAD PEOPLE


US SOLDIERS WHO HAVE DIED SINCE OBAMA HAS BEEN CHAIRMAN OF OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE ON AFGHANISTAN

A YEAR AND A HALF - NOT ONE SINGLE MEETING

THESE BOYS AND WOMEN DIED WHILE HE'S BEEN "TOO BUSY" - WITH HIS OWN LIFE . THEY ARE DEAD !

4/2/08 Sgt. Nicholas Robertson, Old Town, Maine 27
3/23/08 Tech. William H. Jefferson, Norfolk, Virginia 34
3/21/98 Staff Sgt. William R. Neil, Hamden, New Jersey 38
3/19/08 Pfc. Antione V. Robinson, Detroit, Michigan 20
3/14/08 Staff Sgt. collin J. Bowen, Millersville, Maryland 38
3/8/08 Sgt. Gabriel Guzman, Hornbrook, California 25
3/3/08 Sgt. Robert T. Rapp, Sonora, California 22
3/3/08 Spec. Seven R. Koch, Milltown, New Jersey 23
2/5/08 Staff Sgt. Donald T. Tabb, Norcross, Georgia 29
1/26/08 Sgt. 1st Class Matthew R. Kahler, Granite Falls, Minnesota 29
1/25/08 Staff Sgt. Robert J. Miller, Iowa City, Iowa 24
1/11/08 Lt. Col. Richard J. Berrettini, Wilcox, Pennsylvania 52
1/9/08 Sgt. David J. Krakulich, Reno, Nevada 22
1/7/08 Maj. Michael L. Green, Gautier, Mississippi 36
1/7/08 Sgt. James K. Healy, Hesperia, California 25
1/2/08 Sgt. Shawn F. Hill, Wllford, South Carolina 37
12/24/07 Senior Airman Nicholas D. Eischen, Sanger, California, 24
12/12/07 Cpl. Joshua C. Blaney, Mattews, North Carolina 25
12/12/07 Staff Sgt. Michael J. Gabel, Baton Rouge, Louisiana 30
12/11/07 Staff Sgt. Gregory L. Elam, Columbus, Georgia 39
12/9/07 Cpl. Tanner J. O'Leary, Eagle Butte, South Dakota 23
11/13/07 2nd Lt. Stuart F. Liles, Hot Springs, Arkansas 26
11/12/07 Spec. Adrian E. Hike, Callender, Iowa 26
11/12/07 Capt. David A Boris, Pottsville, Pennsylvania 30
11/10/07 Staff Sgt. Patrick F. Kutschbach, McKees Rocks, Pennsylvania 25
11/10/07 Sgt. Jeffery S. Mersman, Parker, Kansas 23
11/10/07 Pfc. Joseph M. Lancour, Swartz Creek, Michigan 21
11/10/07 Spec. Lester G. Roque, Torrance, California 23
11/9/07 Sgt. Phillip A. Bocks, Troy, Michigan 28
11/9/07 Spec. Sean K. Langevin, Walnut Creek, California 23
11/9/07 1st Lt. Matthew C. Ferrara, Torrance, California 24
11/2/07 Sgt. 1st Class Johnny C. Walls, Bremerton, Washington 41
10/30/07 Staff Sgt. James D. Bullard, Marion, South Carolina 28
10/29/07 Maj. Jeffrey R. Calero, Queens Village, New York 34
10/28/07 Master Sgt. Thomas L. Bruner, Owensboro, Kentucky 50
10/27/07 Staff Sgt. Joseph F. Curreri, Los Angeles, California 27
10/26/07 Sgt. Joshua C. Brennan, Ontario, Oregon 22
10/25/07 Spec. Hugo V. Mendoza, Glendale, Arizona 29
10/23/07 Sgt. Edward O. Philpot, Latta, South Carolina 38
10/23/07 Staff Sgt. Larry I. Rougle, West Jordan, Utah 25
10/6/07 Spec. Adam D. Quinn, Orange City, Florida 22
10/2/07 Petty Officer Third Class Mark R. Cannon, Lubbock, Texas 31
9/29/07 Sgt. Zachary D. Telliler, Charlotte, North Carolina 31
9/28/07 Spec. Ciara M. Durkin, Quincy, Massachusetts 39
9/26/07 Pfc. Mathew D. Taylor, Cameron Park, California 21
9/25/07 Petty Officer 2nd Class Charles Luke Milam, Littleton, Colorado 26
9/25/07 Pfc. Christopher F. Pfeifer, Spalding, Nebraska 21
9/23/07 Sgt. 1st Class Matthew D. Blaskowski, Levering, Michigan 27
9/9/07 Cpl. Travis M. Woods, Redding, California 21
9/6/07 Pfc. Mykel F. Miller, Phoenix, Arizona 19
9/4/07 Master Sgt. Patrick D. Magnani, Martinez, California 38
8/28/07 Sgt. Bryce D. Howard, Vancouver, Washington 24
8/28/07 Sgt. Cory L. Clark, Plant City, Florida 25
8/28/07 Sgt. 1st Class Rocky H. Herrera, Salt Lake City, Utah 43
8/27/07 Pfc. Thomas R. Wilson, Mauertown, Virginia 21
8/27/07 Sgt. Jan M. Argonish, Peckville, Pennsylvania 26
8/27/07 Master Sgt. Scott R. Ball, Mount Holly Springs, Pennsylvania 38
8/27/07 Maj. Henry S. Ofeciar, Agana Heights, Guam 37
8/26/07 Staff Sgt. Nicholas R. Carnes, Dayton, Kentucky 25
8/24/07 Sgt. 1st Class Daniel E. Miller, Rossford, Ohio 43
8/24/07 Sgt. 1st Class Scott M. Carney, Ankeny, Iowa 37
8/20/07 Spec. George V. Libby, Aberdeen, North Carolina 23
8/12/07 Pvt. Alan J. Austin, Houston, Texas 21
8/12/07 Sgt. 1st Class Jeffrey D. Kettle, Madill, Oklahoma 31
8/12/07 Staff Sgt. Jesse G. Clowers Jr., Herndon, Virginia 27
8/12/07 Sgt. Charles B. Kitowski III, Farmers Branch, Texas 31
8/11/07 Pfc. Jordan E. Goode, Kalamazoo, Michigan 21
8/2/07 Sgt. Taurean T. Harris, Liberty, Mississippi 22
7/31/07 1st Lt. Benjamin J. Hall, Fredericksburg, Virginia 24
7/27/07 Staff Sgt. William R. Fritsche, Martinville, Indiana 23
7/27/07 Maj. Thomas G. Bostick Jr., Llano, Texas 37
7/23/07 Pfc. Zachary R. Endsley, Spring, Texas 21
7/23/07 Pfc. Jessy S. Rogers, Cooper Center, Alaska 20
7/23/07 Spec. Adam J. Davis, Twin Falls, Idaho 19
7/23/07 Sgt. Travon T. Johnson, Palmdale, California 29
7/23/07 1st Sgt. Michael S. Curry Jr., Dania Beach, Florida 37
7/22/07 Pfc. Juan S. Restrepo, Pembroke Pines, Florida 20
7/9/07 Master Sgt. Randy J. Gillespie, Coaldale, Colorado 44
7/7/07 Sgt. 1st Class Sean K. Mitchell, Monterey, California 35
7/6/07 Sgt. Thomas P. McGee, Hawthorne, California 23
7/5/07 Spec. Christopher S. Honaker, Havelock, North Carolina 23
7/5/07 Pfc. Joseph A. Miracle, Ortonville, Michigan 22
6/23/07 Capt. Darrell C. Lewis, Washington DC, 31
6/21/07 Sgt. Dustin J. Perrott, Fredericksburg, Virginia 23
6/17/07 Sgt. 1st Class John M. Hennen, Vinton, Louisiana 26
6/17/07 Capt. Joshua E. Steele, North Henderson, Illinois 26
6/17/07 Sgt. 1st Class Christopher D. Henderson, Hillsboro, Oregon 35
6/16/07 Staff Sgt. Roy P. Lewsader Jr., Belleville, Illinois 36
6/15/07 Master Sgt. Arthur L. Lilley, Smithfield, Pennsylvania 35
6/6/07 Sgt. Charles E. Wyckoff Jr., Chula Vista, California 28
6/5/07 Pfc. Timothy R. Vimoto, Fort Campbell, Kentucky 19
6/2/07 Spec. Jacob M. Lowell, New Lenox, Illinois 22
6/1/07 Sgt. Charles R. Browning, Tucson, Arizona 31
6/1/07 Lt. Col. Michael A. Robinson, Sylacauga, Alabama 42
5/30/07 Chief Warrant Officer Joshua R. Rodgers, Carson City, Nevada 29
5/30/07 Sgt. Brandon E. Hadaway, Valley, Alabama 25
5/30/07 Sgt. Jesse A. Blamires, West Jordan, Utah 25
5/30/07 Staff Sgt. Charlie L. Bagwell, Lake Toxaway, North Carolina 28
5/30/07 Chief Warrant Officer Christopher M. Allgaier, Middelton, Missouri 33
5/15/07 Staff Sgt. Joshua R. Whitaker, Long Beach, California 23
5/14/07 Maj. Larry J. Bauguess Jr., Moravian Falls, North Carolina 36
5/8/07 Sgt. Timothy P. Padgett, Defuniak Springs, Florida 28
5/6/07 Col. James W. Harrison Jr., Missouri 47
5/6/07 Master Sgt. Wilberto Sabalu Jr., Chicago, Illinois 36
5/3/07 Pfc. Joseph G. Harris, Sugar Land, Texas 19
4/28/07 Cpl. Jeremy R. Greene, Springfield, Ohio 24
4/27/07 Staff Sgt. Michael D. Thomas, Seffner, Florida 34
4/27/07 Spec. Daniel F. Mehringer, Morgantown, West Virginia 20
4/20/07 Sgt. Alexander Van Aalten, Monterey, Tennessee 21
4/12/07 Sgt. David A. Stephens, Tullahoma, Tennessee 28
4/12/07 Staff Sgt. Casey D. Combs, Auburn, Washington 28
4/11/07 Sgt. Edelman L. Hernandez, Hyattsville, Maryland 23 (enlistment had ended)
4/8/07 Cpl. Conor G. Masterson, Woodbury, Minnesota 21
3/29/07 Spec. Christopher M. Wilson, Bangor, Maine 24
3/29/07 Spec. Agustin Gutierrez, San Jacinto, California 19
3/29/07 Sgt. Edmund W. McDonald, Casco, Maine 25
3/5/07 Sgt. Christopher J. Fernandez, Dededo, Guam 28
3/5/07 Sgt. Gregory D. Dejeran, Barrigada, Guam 28
2/27/07 Pfc. Daniel Zizumbo, Chicago, Illinois 27
2/21/07 Pfc. Jason D. Johns, Frankton, Indiana 19
2/19/07 Sgt. Buddy J. Hughie, Poteau, Oklahoma 25
2/18/07 Chief Warrant Officer Hershel D. McCants Jr., Clarksville, Tennessee 33
2/18/07 Tech. Sgt. Scott E. Duffman, Albuquerque, New Mexico 32
2/18/07 Chief Warrant Officer John A. Quinlan, New Jersey 36
2/18/07 Sgt. Adam A. Wilkinson, Fort Carson, Colorado 23
2/18/07 Spec. Travis R. Vaughn, Reinbeck, Iowa 26
2/18/07 Spec. Brandon D. Gordon, Naples, Florida 21
2/18/07 Pfc. Ryan C. Garbs, Edwardsville, Illinois 20
2/18/07 Pfc. Kristofer D. Thomas, Roseville, California 18
2/15/07 Cpl. Timothy D. Lewis, Lawrenceburg, Kentucky 20
2/12/07 Petty Officer 2nd Class Laquite Pate James, Orange Park, Florida 23
2/10/07 Sgt. Long N. Nguyen, Portland, Oregon 27


MR. OBAMA HAS NO HISTORY OF CHANGE IN HIS CHURCH OR POLITICAL LIFE

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:48 PM

OBAMA SUPPORTERS --

IF YOU FORCE OBAMA ON US WE WILL ELECT MCCAIN.

THEN, IT WILL BE PAYBACK TIME.

WE WILL END AFFIRMATIVE ACTION.

WE WILL END SOCIAL PROGRAMS.

WE WILL END FUNDS TO SUPPORT INNER CITIES.

WE WILL FUND LOTS MORE POLICE.

WE WILL GIVE POLICE MILITARY WEAPONS.

WE WILL BRING BACK THE DRAFT.

WE WILL SEND YOU TO THE FRONT LINES IN IRAQ.

WE WILL MAKE YOU PAY FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TO US.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:47 PM

So will you explain to me here Barack Obama
as to how your going to United the country
after you were exposed as a fraud and liar
and a "Divider" NOT a "Uniter" now then?
As after all didn't President George W Bush
run on his being a "Uniter" and look what'
that got us after the press failed to vet
Bush properly,just like the media failed
to vet this pathological liar crooked phony
empty suit Barack Hussein Obama now then!

Posted by: Sandy5274 | April 29, 2008 6:46 PM

Please, keep posting "+dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead" over and over (at least until we get this thread over 1,000 posts ; )

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:46 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:45 PM


Obama can't tackle BIG problems.

He just HAS them !!!

What a joke !!

He's never done one significant thing in his entire Equal Opportunity Life.

He's Mr. EASY STREET

Mr. Rezko QUARTER MILLION DOLLAR CHICAGO POLITICIAN

Does this list look like "DIFFERENT DC" ??

DASHEL
KERRY
BRADLEY
KENNEDY
LEAHY
DODD
ROCKAFELLER
RICHARDSON
PELOSI

MR. OBAMA IS A DC PLAYER

MR. OBAMA WAS A CHICAGO PLAYER

MR. OBAMA TAKES MONEY MONEY MONEY
AND HELP HELP HELP

FROM THE OLD BOYS CLUB AND ESTABLISHMENT POLITICANS

WHAT A BUNCH OF FOOLS IF YOU'RE SWALLOWING HIS LINES

HAHAHAHAHA

WHAT NUMMIES

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:44 PM

Looks like obama is losing his higher 'new politics' ground everday. The reality of politics sees him becoming increasingly as all politicians are, the do anything,say anything to fit with public opinion / perception.... Now he disowns his 20 + year life long friends and associates.... very loyal and straight...

Posted by: Bmolony | April 29, 2008 6:43 PM

"Yea when you jiggaboos get ready to riot bring ya a$$ to Texas and see what happens. You can get away with that crap in NY or CA come on down here where the real Americans are and see what happens."

Posted by: | April 29, 2008 6:38 PM

You see, now THAT might just be a true racist comment (or, again, it could be someone who is NOT a racist but pretending to be one ; )

Either way, it should be deleted from the thread per agreed-upon rules and WaPo Terms of Use. I'm sure it will be shortly. That was my "point" above.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:43 PM

I know he didn't want to and that it hurt but he had to.

It reminds me of the situation a parishioner who contributed to the church and who attended Mass every Sunday would find himself if he found that his priest, his confessor, was molesting altar boys. The betrayal must be horrible.

Posted by: Karen | April 29, 2008 6:43 PM

Hillary Voted For the War

4,000+ U.S. SOLDIER KILLED

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:42 PM

Wow, lot's of mastabatory Clearasil basted trolls posting in CAPS because one hand is occupied under the desk. The virulent racists are doubtless panty wastes who don't have a Black living within 60 miles of their inbred communities and would load their diapers at the notion of a walk in an inner city neighborhood.

I do believe in Karma. Didn't always but when folks who messed with me over time started having awful things happen to them I quit taking my own vengeance and learned patience. I've no doubt that you cousin humpers will get yours. I do wish you were standing in front of me though.

Posted by: Ol' Whiteguy | April 29, 2008 6:41 PM

Obama says:

"I have spent my entire adult life trying to bridge the gap between different kinds of people. That's in my DNA, trying to promote mutual understanding,"

Where, when and how? He never did a thing since he has been in the Senate to bridge anything...

Posted by: gooch | April 29, 2008 6:40 PM

Jack D, calm down Tiger, don't you go blowing up any black churches. You're racist, we get it. Frankly my dear, I don't give a d*mn. But you're not going to stop sh*t, much less any black person from reaching the Oval Office. You racist haven't stopped blacks from doing a GD thing so don't get beside yourself with any false hopes that there are enough of you to stop the enviable...you gave us an ape with a cowboy hat for 8 years that completely f*cked up the country so the chaos you seek was already created by your last presidential choice

Posted by: BrooklynGirl | April 29, 2008 6:39 PM


THIS IS WHAT IS CRIMINAL -

OBAMA CHAIRMAN OF THE SENATE OVERSIGHT COMMITTED ON AFGHANISTAN FOR A YEAR AND A HALF NOW

NOT ONE MEETING

IN THAT YEAR AND A HALF THE DO NOTHING HAS DONE NOTHING:

132 BRAVE UNITED STATES SERVICE MEN AND WOMEN HAVE DIED IN AFGHANISTAN

WHILE MR. OBMA WAS "TOO BUSY" TO HOLD ONE MEETING OF THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE ON AFGHANISTAN. A COMMITTEE HE BRAGGED ABOUT. I GUESS THAT'S WHAT HE THINKS COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS ARE FOR -- SHOW.

WHILE HE WAS TOO BUSY WITH HIS CAMPAIGN TO DO HIS JOB - THESE BRAVE AMERICANS GAVE THEIR LIVES.


4/2/08 Sgt. Nicholas Robertson, Old Town, Maine 27
3/23/08 Tech. William H. Jefferson, Norfolk, Virginia 34
3/21/98 Staff Sgt. William R. Neil, Hamden, New Jersey 38
3/19/08 Pfc. Antione V. Robinson, Detroit, Michigan 20
3/14/08 Staff Sgt. collin J. Bowen, Millersville, Maryland 38
3/8/08 Sgt. Gabriel Guzman, Hornbrook, California 25
3/3/08 Sgt. Robert T. Rapp, Sonora, California 22
3/3/08 Spec. Seven R. Koch, Milltown, New Jersey 23
2/5/08 Staff Sgt. Donald T. Tabb, Norcross, Georgia 29
1/26/08 Sgt. 1st Class Matthew R. Kahler, Granite Falls, Minnesota 29
1/25/08 Staff Sgt. Robert J. Miller, Iowa City, Iowa 24
1/11/08 Lt. Col. Richard J. Berrettini, Wilcox, Pennsylvania 52
1/9/08 Sgt. David J. Krakulich, Reno, Nevada 22
1/7/08 Maj. Michael L. Green, Gautier, Mississippi 36
1/7/08 Sgt. James K. Healy, Hesperia, California 25
1/2/08 Sgt. Shawn F. Hill, Wllford, South Carolina 37
12/24/07 Senior Airman Nicholas D. Eischen, Sanger, California, 24
12/12/07 Cpl. Joshua C. Blaney, Mattews, North Carolina 25
12/12/07 Staff Sgt. Michael J. Gabel, Baton Rouge, Louisiana 30
12/11/07 Staff Sgt. Gregory L. Elam, Columbus, Georgia 39
12/9/07 Cpl. Tanner J. O'Leary, Eagle Butte, South Dakota 23
11/13/07 2nd Lt. Stuart F. Liles, Hot Springs, Arkansas 26
11/12/07 Spec. Adrian E. Hike, Callender, Iowa 26
11/12/07 Capt. David A Boris, Pottsville, Pennsylvania 30
11/10/07 Staff Sgt. Patrick F. Kutschbach, McKees Rocks, Pennsylvania 25
11/10/07 Sgt. Jeffery S. Mersman, Parker, Kansas 23
11/10/07 Pfc. Joseph M. Lancour, Swartz Creek, Michigan 21
11/10/07 Spec. Lester G. Roque, Torrance, California 23
11/9/07 Sgt. Phillip A. Bocks, Troy, Michigan 28
11/9/07 Spec. Sean K. Langevin, Walnut Creek, California 23
11/9/07 1st Lt. Matthew C. Ferrara, Torrance, California 24
11/2/07 Sgt. 1st Class Johnny C. Walls, Bremerton, Washington 41
10/30/07 Staff Sgt. James D. Bullard, Marion, South Carolina 28
10/29/07 Maj. Jeffrey R. Calero, Queens Village, New York 34
10/28/07 Master Sgt. Thomas L. Bruner, Owensboro, Kentucky 50
10/27/07 Staff Sgt. Joseph F. Curreri, Los Angeles, California 27
10/26/07 Sgt. Joshua C. Brennan, Ontario, Oregon 22
10/25/07 Spec. Hugo V. Mendoza, Glendale, Arizona 29
10/23/07 Sgt. Edward O. Philpot, Latta, South Carolina 38
10/23/07 Staff Sgt. Larry I. Rougle, West Jordan, Utah 25
10/6/07 Spec. Adam D. Quinn, Orange City, Florida 22
10/2/07 Petty Officer Third Class Mark R. Cannon, Lubbock, Texas 31
9/29/07 Sgt. Zachary D. Telliler, Charlotte, North Carolina 31
9/28/07 Spec. Ciara M. Durkin, Quincy, Massachusetts 39
9/26/07 Pfc. Mathew D. Taylor, Cameron Park, California 21
9/25/07 Petty Officer 2nd Class Charles Luke Milam, Littleton, Colorado 26
9/25/07 Pfc. Christopher F. Pfeifer, Spalding, Nebraska 21
9/23/07 Sgt. 1st Class Matthew D. Blaskowski, Levering, Michigan 27
9/9/07 Cpl. Travis M. Woods, Redding, California 21
9/6/07 Pfc. Mykel F. Miller, Phoenix, Arizona 19
9/4/07 Master Sgt. Patrick D. Magnani, Martinez, California 38
8/28/07 Sgt. Bryce D. Howard, Vancouver, Washington 24
8/28/07 Sgt. Cory L. Clark, Plant City, Florida 25
8/28/07 Sgt. 1st Class Rocky H. Herrera, Salt Lake City, Utah 43
8/27/07 Pfc. Thomas R. Wilson, Mauertown, Virginia 21
8/27/07 Sgt. Jan M. Argonish, Peckville, Pennsylvania 26
8/27/07 Master Sgt. Scott R. Ball, Mount Holly Springs, Pennsylvania 38
8/27/07 Maj. Henry S. Ofeciar, Agana Heights, Guam 37
8/26/07 Staff Sgt. Nicholas R. Carnes, Dayton, Kentucky 25
8/24/07 Sgt. 1st Class Daniel E. Miller, Rossford, Ohio 43
8/24/07 Sgt. 1st Class Scott M. Carney, Ankeny, Iowa 37
8/20/07 Spec. George V. Libby, Aberdeen, North Carolina 23
8/12/07 Pvt. Alan J. Austin, Houston, Texas 21
8/12/07 Sgt. 1st Class Jeffrey D. Kettle, Madill, Oklahoma 31
8/12/07 Staff Sgt. Jesse G. Clowers Jr., Herndon, Virginia 27
8/12/07 Sgt. Charles B. Kitowski III, Farmers Branch, Texas 31
8/11/07 Pfc. Jordan E. Goode, Kalamazoo, Michigan 21
8/2/07 Sgt. Taurean T. Harris, Liberty, Mississippi 22
7/31/07 1st Lt. Benjamin J. Hall, Fredericksburg, Virginia 24
7/27/07 Staff Sgt. William R. Fritsche, Martinville, Indiana 23
7/27/07 Maj. Thomas G. Bostick Jr., Llano, Texas 37
7/23/07 Pfc. Zachary R. Endsley, Spring, Texas 21
7/23/07 Pfc. Jessy S. Rogers, Cooper Center, Alaska 20
7/23/07 Spec. Adam J. Davis, Twin Falls, Idaho 19
7/23/07 Sgt. Travon T. Johnson, Palmdale, California 29
7/23/07 1st Sgt. Michael S. Curry Jr., Dania Beach, Florida 37
7/22/07 Pfc. Juan S. Restrepo, Pembroke Pines, Florida 20
7/9/07 Master Sgt. Randy J. Gillespie, Coaldale, Colorado 44
7/7/07 Sgt. 1st Class Sean K. Mitchell, Monterey, California 35
7/6/07 Sgt. Thomas P. McGee, Hawthorne, California 23
7/5/07 Spec. Christopher S. Honaker, Havelock, North Carolina 23
7/5/07 Pfc. Joseph A. Miracle, Ortonville, Michigan 22
6/23/07 Capt. Darrell C. Lewis, Washington DC, 31
6/21/07 Sgt. Dustin J. Perrott, Fredericksburg, Virginia 23
6/17/07 Sgt. 1st Class John M. Hennen, Vinton, Louisiana 26
6/17/07 Capt. Joshua E. Steele, North Henderson, Illinois 26
6/17/07 Sgt. 1st Class Christopher D. Henderson, Hillsboro, Oregon 35
6/16/07 Staff Sgt. Roy P. Lewsader Jr., Belleville, Illinois 36
6/15/07 Master Sgt. Arthur L. Lilley, Smithfield, Pennsylvania 35
6/6/07 Sgt. Charles E. Wyckoff Jr., Chula Vista, California 28
6/5/07 Pfc. Timothy R. Vimoto, Fort Campbell, Kentucky 19
6/2/07 Spec. Jacob M. Lowell, New Lenox, Illinois 22
6/1/07 Sgt. Charles R. Browning, Tucson, Arizona 31
6/1/07 Lt. Col. Michael A. Robinson, Sylacauga, Alabama 42
5/30/07 Chief Warrant Officer Joshua R. Rodgers, Carson City, Nevada 29
5/30/07 Sgt. Brandon E. Hadaway, Valley, Alabama 25
5/30/07 Sgt. Jesse A. Blamires, West Jordan, Utah 25
5/30/07 Staff Sgt. Charlie L. Bagwell, Lake Toxaway, North Carolina 28
5/30/07 Chief Warrant Officer Christopher M. Allgaier, Middelton, Missouri 33
5/15/07 Staff Sgt. Joshua R. Whitaker, Long Beach, California 23
5/14/07 Maj. Larry J. Bauguess Jr., Moravian Falls, North Carolina 36
5/8/07 Sgt. Timothy P. Padgett, Defuniak Springs, Florida 28
5/6/07 Col. James W. Harrison Jr., Missouri 47
5/6/07 Master Sgt. Wilberto Sabalu Jr., Chicago, Illinois 36
5/3/07 Pfc. Joseph G. Harris, Sugar Land, Texas 19
4/28/07 Cpl. Jeremy R. Greene, Springfield, Ohio 24
4/27/07 Staff Sgt. Michael D. Thomas, Seffner, Florida 34
4/27/07 Spec. Daniel F. Mehringer, Morgantown, West Virginia 20
4/20/07 Sgt. Alexander Van Aalten, Monterey, Tennessee 21
4/12/07 Sgt. David A. Stephens, Tullahoma, Tennessee 28
4/12/07 Staff Sgt. Casey D. Combs, Auburn, Washington 28
4/11/07 Sgt. Edelman L. Hernandez, Hyattsville, Maryland 23 (enlistment had ended)
4/8/07 Cpl. Conor G. Masterson, Woodbury, Minnesota 21
3/29/07 Spec. Christopher M. Wilson, Bangor, Maine 24
3/29/07 Spec. Agustin Gutierrez, San Jacinto, California 19
3/29/07 Sgt. Edmund W. McDonald, Casco, Maine 25
3/5/07 Sgt. Christopher J. Fernandez, Dededo, Guam 28
3/5/07 Sgt. Gregory D. Dejeran, Barrigada, Guam 28
2/27/07 Pfc. Daniel Zizumbo, Chicago, Illinois 27
2/21/07 Pfc. Jason D. Johns, Frankton, Indiana 19
2/19/07 Sgt. Buddy J. Hughie, Poteau, Oklahoma 25
2/18/07 Chief Warrant Officer Hershel D. McCants Jr., Clarksville, Tennessee 33
2/18/07 Tech. Sgt. Scott E. Duffman, Albuquerque, New Mexico 32
2/18/07 Chief Warrant Officer John A. Quinlan, New Jersey 36
2/18/07 Sgt. Adam A. Wilkinson, Fort Carson, Colorado 23
2/18/07 Spec. Travis R. Vaughn, Reinbeck, Iowa 26
2/18/07 Spec. Brandon D. Gordon, Naples, Florida 21
2/18/07 Pfc. Ryan C. Garbs, Edwardsville, Illinois 20
2/18/07 Pfc. Kristofer D. Thomas, Roseville, California 18
2/15/07 Cpl. Timothy D. Lewis, Lawrenceburg, Kentucky 20
2/12/07 Petty Officer 2nd Class Laquite Pate James, Orange Park, Florida 23
2/10/07 Sgt. Long N. Nguyen, Portland, Oregon 27

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:39 PM

Senator Obama wants to move beyond petty distractions:
""What's troubling is the gap between our challenges and the smallness of our politics--the ease at which we are distracted by the petty and trivial, our chronic avoidance of tough decisions, our seeming inability to build a working consensus to tackle any big problem" ---Barack Obama: AUDACITY OF HOPE (2006)

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:39 PM


Turn out the lights...Obamasama....
the party's over....

hahahhahahaha

What a lying sack o' youknowwhat!

He lies so much even Wright can't stand him.

hahahahahahahahahahahahah.....

Posted by: Typical White Person | April 29, 2008 6:39 PM

KIDS NEED TO LEARN MANNERS AND RESPECT.

THE ARMY IS THE BEST PLACE TO TEACH THEM.

MAKE MILITARY SERVICE A REQUIREMENT FOR EVERYONE AGES 18-24.

END STUDENT LOAN ASSISTANCE.

REPEAL ROW V WADE.

END SOCIAL PROGRAMS.

ITS OUR MONEY.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE ANY MORE OF IT TO YOU YOUNG JERKS!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:39 PM

Yea when you jiggaboos get ready to riot bring ya a$$ to Texas and see what happens. You can get away with that crap in NY or CA come on down here where the real Americans are and see what happens.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:38 PM

Change? Change? you want change? You think that Obama is going to be BETTER than the lying cheating pocket lining democrats and republicans... Guess what, he just wants to join the club, get his tee time on the slimeball politicians country club links. He is just as bad as all the rest and in many ways worse because he doesn't say ANYTHING of substance. Not that he'd abide by what he said, when would a politician honor their promises? This country is on a down slide and picking up speed. BHO, HRC and JM are just the sleigh drivers.

Posted by: robel | April 29, 2008 6:37 PM

Change? Change? you want change? You think that Obama is going to be BETTER than the lying cheating pocket lining democrats and republicans... Guess what, he just wants to join the club, get his tee time on the slimeball politicians country club links. He is just as bad as all the rest and in many ways worse because he doesn't say ANYTHING of substance. Not that he'd abide by what he said, when would a politician honor their promises? This country is on a down slide and picking up speed. BHO, HRC and JM are just the sleigh drivers.

Posted by: robel | April 29, 2008 6:37 PM

BRING BACK THE DRAFT!!!!

SEND ALL THE OBAMA SUPPORTERS TO THE FRONT LINES IN IRAQ!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:36 PM

FEAR
FEAR
HATE
HATE
ANGER
ANGER
FEAR
FEAR

Bill Clinton in 2004:
"Now one of Clinton's Laws of Politics is
this: If one candidate's trying to scare
you and the other one's trying to get you
to think; if one candidate's appealing to
your fears and the other one's appealing
to your hopes, you better vote for the
person who wants you to think and hope.
That's the best."

Posted by: feastorafamine | April 29, 2008 6:36 PM

Dan:

As I am sure you know, Rev. Wright is not a super delegate.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:36 PM

Looks like John Edwards and his wife are fixing to go Clinton. Then you get Gore on board and it's all over but the crying

Posted by: Your all nuts | April 29, 2008 6:28 PM
--------------------------------------
When Gore goes Clinton, then all Hell will freeze over. Remember he was their first victim, he'll never fall for their phonism again. You're just dreaming on this one--admit it.

Excuse me now, I have to go; I've finally found myself under sniper fire and must call my "I didn't have sexual relations with that woman" husband--Billie Bob.

Posted by: SingleWhiteFemale | April 29, 2008 6:36 PM


THE IRAQ VOTE JUST KEEPS COMING UP FOR SOME IDIOT HERE

THE VOTE WAS: 77 Yea 23 Nay
OBAMA WAS IN ILLINOIS - NOT THE DC SENATE


THOSE WHO VOTED FOR THE IRAQ WAR THE SAME AS HILLARY

John Edwards
John Kerry
Tom Daschle - HEAD OF SENATE
Christopher Dodd
Joe Lieberman
John McCain
Joe Biden
Diane Feinstein
Trent Lott
Richard Lugar
Harry Reid
Rockefeller
Schumer

Mr. Obama didn't know BETTER than them. He knew LESS than they did. They knew things Obama did not know over in Chicago - he wasn't in the Senate - did not have a vote. Always the safe position.


So stick that Iraq Obama having any authority from Chicago joke.

Posted by: Rskl | April 29, 2008 6:35 PM


U.S. SOLDIER KILLED BECAUSE OF HILLARY'S VOTE

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(640 out of more than 4,000 dead)

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:35 PM

SingleWhiteFemale:

Those are not "racist" posts (unless you think YOUR post supposedly pointing out racism is also a "racist" post). People pretending to be racist are not racist. For instance, that was not me posting at 6:04 PM, but rather someone trying to paint me as a racist. See the difference?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:34 PM

Does not this world seem real in dreams.

Dreams are chaotic because they are governed by you wishes.

You are outraged by attack on your ego but you are not one with you ego.

Dreams show you that you have the ability to make the world as you would have.

I do not understand anything in this room

The point of this exercise is to help you clear your mind of all past association, to see things exactly as they as appear to you now.

Posted by: The Dream | April 29, 2008 6:34 PM

GREAT. LETS SEE BLACKS VOTE FOR REPUBLICANS.

REPUBLICANS WILL END SOCIAL PROGRAMS, BRING BACK THE DRAFT, REPEAL ROW V WADE, AND GIVE COPS ASSAULT WEAPONS!!!!

END AFFIRMATIVE ACTION!!!

LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:34 PM

"And this helps explain, perhaps, my relationship with Reverend Wright. As imperfect as he may be, he has been like family to me. He strengthened my faith, officiated my wedding, and baptized my children. Not once in my conversations with him have I heard him talk about any ethnic group in derogatory terms, or treat whites with whom he interacted with anything but courtesy and respect. He contains within him the contradictions - the good and the bad - of the community that he has served diligently for so many years."

Nevermind. Mr. Judgment changes his mind.

Posted by: Ed | April 29, 2008 6:33 PM

OBAMA SUPPORTERS --

THANK YOU FOR SHOWING US THE ERROR OF OUR WAYS.

WE NOW KNOW WHAT JERKS YOU REALLY ARE.

END SOCIAL PROGRAMS!!!!

BRING BACK THE DRAFT!!!!

NO MORE FREE RIDES FOR ARROGANT YOUNG JERKS!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:32 PM

Your all nuts [sic]:

If Edwards, Gore, and the super delegates help Hillary to STEAL this nomination from Obama, there will be rioting and most African-Americans will never vote for another Democrat again.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:31 PM

Newsflash. . . .

Superdelegate Rev. Wright endorses Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: Dan | April 29, 2008 6:31 PM

Is 12% John Edwards backing Hilliary?

Posted by: Jack | April 29, 2008 6:30 PM

JakeD...do you need more?

KingofAllWhites: F*ckin A.

Posted by: yeah | April 29, 2008 4:39 PM

Damn, There are a lot of racists here.

Posted by: | April 29, 2008 4:29 PM

You are damned right we are racist. At least we speak out with our racism unlike you Ni%$rs who try to hid behind your monkey ni%$rs leaders Wright, Sharpton, and Jackson. We gave you a King holiday, why can't you ni#$s just be satisfied! Now you want us to give you a President--NEVER!! Operation CHAOS - let's go!!

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:04 PM


Posted by: SingleWhiteFemale | April 29, 2008 6:29 PM

crazy:

TMI!!!

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:29 PM

I hate to say it but I fully believe you voted twice for Bush I think you should lose your right to vote

If you vote for obama - you should lose your citizenship.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:29 PM

Looks like John Edwards and his wife are fixing to go Clinton. Then you get Gore on board and it's all over but the crying

Posted by: Your all nuts | April 29, 2008 6:28 PM

KIDS TODAY HAVE WAY TOO MUCH FREE TIME.

BRING BACK THE DRAFT.

REQUIRE MILITARY SERVICE.

END SOCIAL PROGRAMS.

MAKE KIDS WORK THEIR WAY THROUGH SCHOOL.

PILE ON THE DEBT.

THEY TREAT US LIKE DIRT.

WHY SHOULD WE CARE ABOUT THEM?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:28 PM

52% NEGATIVE RATINGS TO BEGIN WITH

Posted by: Jack | April 29, 2008 6:28 PM


SITTING IN THAT CHURCH FOR TWENTY YEARS

DEFENDING HIS SPIRITUAL MENTOR FOR MONTHS NOW

GIVING A MAJOR SPEECH ABOUT THE GUY

SAYS HE DIDN'T "VET" HIS PASTOR BEFORE RUNNING

HUH?

TWENTY YEARS AND HE DIDN'T KNOW THIS GUY

WHAT A FREAKING LIAR OBAMA IS

HE THINKS WE'LL SWALLOW AND "BELIEVE" ANYTHING HE SAYS

GOD BLESS AMERICA

SOME OF US ARE NOT OBAMABOTS

WE WILL NOT VOTE FOR HIM

HE HAS BAGGAGE AND A PAST FULL OF REALLY DIRTY LAUNDRY

TALK TALK TALK

HE'S A FAST TALKER

SMOOTH TALKER

HE IS A HOODWINKER

ADULTS WITH BRAINS OF THEIR OWN
WILL NOT VOTE FOR HIM

SUPER DELEGATES BETTER KNOW THAT

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:28 PM

The repugnicons have been pushing Shillary's candidacy for OVER 2 YEARS!

Bill Krystal (or however you spell the traitorous zionist's name), one of the dual citizenship perfidous neocons who pushed us into war, not with the still at large Bin Laden but with Israel's greatest worry Iraq, now screams for her candidacy (others were Wolfowitz, 1st to bring up Iraq after 9/11 and Douglas Feith, son of one of modern times original terrorists who bombed British hotels to establish Israel, who made up the WMD lie).

About a month ago the Clinton's said the right words to the powerful zionist elite who have thrown the media they control her way, just as they did with the grandson of a man who did business with Hitler while the US was at war with them, G. W. Bush. Israel comes 1st with these people and you will never read about it other than the free internet.

Tis a shame because most American Jews are loyal and have voted overwhelmingly liberal and progressive. Jews established the NAACP and ACLU. They too are betrayed by the zionists who prop up the navel of world turmoil with billions (doubtless by now trillions) of American taxpayers dollars.

Can you say Rupert Murdoch?

Obama is the ONLY change there is here....until you fools establish more parties thus avoiding a choice between two Skull and Bones richboys.

Posted by: Richard | April 29, 2008 6:28 PM

I am not a body
I am free
I am as god created me

go OBAMA

Posted by: I love OBAMA | April 29, 2008 6:28 PM

WE WANT CLINTON IN NOVEMBER

Posted by: Jackj | April 29, 2008 6:27 PM

ITS REALLY BAD ALL THOSE POOR VOLUNTEERS ARE DYING IN IRAQ.

WE REALLY NEED TO BRING BACK THE DRAFT.

ALL 18-24 YEAR OLDS SHOULD HAVE TO DO MILITARY SERVICE, JUST LIKE OTHER COUNTRIES.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:27 PM

I am crazy in my love for you Jake D and Obama

In eternity we are one

Posted by: crazy | April 29, 2008 6:27 PM

I believe in Mircles

I believe in forgiveness

I believe in OBAMA

call me crazy :)

No - just gullible.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:26 PM

What am I missing here? Hillary apologist have demanded that Obama denounce and distance himself from Rev Wright for the last month, then when he does just that, post the good Rev's rant fest over the weekend, suddenly it's too late and it's Obama that's throwing his pastor under the bus? Suddenly Obama's the phony? Oh, you mean phony like ducking sniper fire phony or phony like being against tax increases for the wealthy before you were for it phony? Ummm, I know how fanatic you hillbillies are about Mrs "Rapist Enabler Blame the Women but Call Me a Feminist" Clinton, but it's April, and if this is the best you guys can come up with to railroad Obama's chances in November than please, talk about this Wright issue ad nauseum...all the way to November. And when Barack is sworn in in January, you can all go back and dissect how Iowa was Mrs. Third Place's fall from grace...and rise to disgrace. You heard it here first:)

Barack supporters, trust me, don't be discouraged. Obama has Hillary and McCain shaking in their boots. Running circles around them and raising plenty of cash. When Barack sows up this nomination, look for McCain (already short on cash) to spend lots of money in states Republicans normally wouldn't need to and watch how "vigorous" a 72 year old man looks while trying to keep up with a much much younger opponent while trying to explain his war cheerleader position. Barack has this sh*t in the bag!

Posted by: BrooklynGirl | April 29, 2008 6:26 PM

"You're beginning to believe this illusion we're spinning here. "

Paddy Chayefsky

Posted by: Terrorist | April 29, 2008 6:26 PM

Sean Kirk:

Obi-Wan once thought as you do -- you don't know the power of the Dark Side -- I can feel the hate growing inside you. Give yourself to the Dark Side. It is the only way to save your friends.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:25 PM

I believe in Mircles

I believe in forgiveness

I believe in OBAMA

call me crazy :)

Posted by: crazy | April 29, 2008 6:25 PM

KEEP IT UP OBAMA SUPPORTERS.

YOU'RE THE BEST RECRUITING TOOL REPUBLICANS EVER HAD.

LETS HOPE MCCAIN PUTS LOTS OF CONSERVATIVES ON THE BENCH.

YOU'RE MAKING US HATE YOU.

YOU WILL NEVER GET OUR VOTES.

BRING BACK THE DRAFT!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:24 PM

ANOTHER media-manufactured article on Wright??

HOW ABOUT TALKING ABOUT THE ISSUES?

Here's one you won't see on the Washington Post's front page:

At least 44 American soldiers have been killed in Iraq in April, making it the deadliest month for U.S. forces since September.

Four more U.S. soldiers dead in Iraq. But no coverage from the lazy journalists at the Post/TMZ. Go figure.

Posted by: losthorizon101 | April 29, 2008 6:24 PM

I just loveeeee Hilliary and the Clinton gang - doing all this good work for us Republicans. It was all Clinton tactics to look for the rev wright speech - guilt be association - it works

Posted by: Jack | April 29, 2008 6:24 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:23 PM


ANYONE LEFT IN OBAMA'S DO NOTHING PAST THAT HE CAN "DENOUNCE"

HE IS TOO FREAKING MUCH.

AND HAS TOO FREAKING MUCH BAGGAGE FOR ANYONE TO "BELIEVE" IN HIM

THINKS HE CAN TALK AMERICANS IN AND OUT OF ANYTHING

THEIR MONEY

HIS TROUBLE AND HIS LIES

HE THINKS HE'S QUITE THE GUY


WE DON'T

Posted by: Todd | April 29, 2008 6:22 PM

P Diddy:

Do you have children? Do you take them with you to hear your "wacko Pastor" preach?

When you run for office, you can be just like Obama.

Posted by: me2 | April 29, 2008 6:22 PM

bu$h is a war criminal

clinton will work for the same interests as bu$h

clinton is the wrong choice for america

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 6:22 PM

Rev Wrong does not work at black church

silly

is mainly white church in Hyde Park (University of Chicago area)

Posted by: REV WRONG | April 29, 2008 6:22 PM

OBAMA SUPPORTERS --

THANKS FOR SETTING CIVIL RIGHTS BACK BY 50 YEARS.

YOU HAVE TURNED WHITE LIBERALS WHO WANTED TO HELP BLACKS INTO CONSERVATIVES THAT WANT A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD FOR EVERYONE.

YOU HAVE SHOWED US THE ERRORS OF OUR LIBERAL WAYS BY BEING TOTAL JERKS AND STICKING A SHIV INTO THE CLINTONS.

GOOD LUCK WINNING AN ELECTION WITHOUT WHITE MIDDLE CLASS VOTERS.

GOOD LUCK SURVIVING WITHOUT SOCIAL PROGRAMS.

THANKS FOR SHOWING US THE KIND OF UNGRATEFUL IMMATURE JERKS YOU ARE.

THANKS FOR TURNING DEMOCRATS INTO REPUBLICANS.

END SOCIAL PROGRAMS!!!

BRING BACK THE DRAFT!!!!

REPEAL ROW V. WADE!!!!


Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:21 PM


Oh - I feel so SAD for Obama.

His past catches up with him every day and he has to run from it and throw his dearest family and oldest friends under the bus.

Poor me Obama.

Give us a break. Media baby wiped. Now he's gonna get on TV every time he has a problem and talk talk talk talk talk it away.

Talk talk talk talk talk himself out of everything.

I'm tired of listening to him already. Just forget this guy.

Obama is a loser.

He has baggage, masks and more excuses than a child.

Blame, blame blame.

Excuse, excuses, excuses

Lies and lies.

This guy is what twelve years old?

Posted by: Todd | April 29, 2008 6:21 PM

politicalpuck:

Good points -- I re-read that earlier speech now in the context of Obama's throwing his own pastor under the bus -- but, since Rev. Wright stated that this is not an attack on him, but an "attack on the black church", will the black church continue to vote for Obama?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:20 PM

President Jimmy Carter on CNN "if I were Obama I would try to distance myself from Wright's comments too although I understand some of the comments having grown up in a community of mostly African American. But Obama cannot be held accountable for Wright's comments." A very prominent Superdelegate--the only Democrat alive having served in the office of the President who is not married to a current candidate.

Posted by: SingleWhiteFemale | April 29, 2008 6:19 PM

Blah, blah, blah. Wright is irrelevant. BHO has no chance whatsoever of being elected POTUS. Never did. Never will. He//uva job, Dems, in choosing another unelectable candidate and once again handing the White House to the GOP.

Posted by: Checkered.1 | April 29, 2008 6:19 PM

JakeD:
As far as the "latest" (flash!) polling data goes, I will take some ironic pleasure in quoting a man I come close to genuinely despising... "So?"

Politically, it's a looooong way to November!

America is SICK of the Iraq war, sick of the vampire feedings of the Oil Companies and Pharmaceutical Companies and Coal Companies and Timber Companies and Mortgage Bankers and federally bailed out) Investment Banks and... ad infinitum!

Posted by: Sean Kirk | April 29, 2008 6:17 PM

Peabuddy

I hate to say it but I fully believe you voted twice for Bush I think you should lose your right to vote

Posted by: scatfiend | April 29, 2008 6:17 PM

And why exactly should Obama have distanced himself from Rev. Wright years ago, as more than one commenter has suggested? I frankly find it sad that he has to do it now. I find absolutely no discrepancy in attending a church where you and the preacher don't agree 100%. Especially since in this case, what they don't agree on are social issues, not theological issues. Now don't be shy - how many of my fellow Catholics out there have gay friends? How many of you use birth control? Then sit down and shut up.

Posted by: krabbykabby | April 29, 2008 6:17 PM

It's not that complicated:

Reverend Wright is a racist and a bigot who hates whites and hates America. If he is the face of the black church, or is considered to be a black leader, then the black community is in very serious trouble. The guy is a little Hitler. Ignorant, racist, and charismatic.

Obama is very different from Wright and I am convinced he does not believe a single word of the filth that flows from the good Reverends mouth. The trouble is that when Obama heard this bilge (and yea, in 20 years of sitting in the pews he CERTAINLY heard it) he did NOTHING. He didn't stomp out of the church, with his family in tow, in outrage. He didn't quietly stop attending the sermons and take his family to a different congregation. And he certainly didn't confront the Reverend. He did nothing.

Why? Because he needed the local support? Maybe, but I can't believe he was such a politician 20 years ago. No, I think it's easier than that. He simply didn't have the courage. He just wanted to get along. Maybe he was mildly entertained and didn't see a reason to make a fuss.

Ok, that's fine for Joe Blow community organizer, but NOT for someone who wants to lead the United States. There are two reasons for this:
1) If you can't stand up to some petty little bigot in Chicago how the hell are you going to stand up to the scum out there in the big world? If Obama couldn't handle Wright, and for 20 years he didn't handle Wright, what can we expect when he goes up against the likes of Mugabe, Kim, Putin?
2) If you want to be President of the United States you damn well better love your country. Yes Barry, if you want to be President, you have to love your country like you love your children - unconditionally. And having sat in the pews for 20 years listening to the anti-American crap spewing from the good Reverend mouth doesn't inspire me to believe this.

Go back to community organizer Barry, you're not qualified to be President, you lack the spine.

Posted by: johngault1 | April 29, 2008 6:17 PM

I agree screw the nation

its about me

Paris Hilton

Posted by: Paris Hilton | April 29, 2008 6:16 PM

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NEOCONS FOR HILLARY

YESTERDAY'S SCRIPT:

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... incite racial hatred against Muslims


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TODAY'S SCRIPT:

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... incite racial hatred against Black Americans

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:16 PM

I no longer trust that Obama is who he claims to be -- this last minute attempt to ditch his friend is appalling

Posted by: Name | April 29, 2008 6:16 PM

LOL -- I'm not including the Fake JakeD posts as real racist comments -- unless you want to admit that Barack Obama himself just posted. Nice try though.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:16 PM

Steve

Bad timing or a glimps of what Wright may know? That we don't YET

Posted by: michaelt | April 29, 2008 6:02 PM


I'm not sure what what Wright knows, but he sure seems determined to make a name for himself, and to weaken Obama's campaign.

Posted by: Steve | April 29, 2008 6:15 PM

Obama Supporters --

On behalf of all Clinton supporters I'd like to thank Obama's supporters for acting like such jerks that you've turned us into hardened enemies that will NEVER vote for Obama.

A lot of us were thinking of sitting this election out if Obama was the nominee.

Thanks to the tireless efforts of Obama's supporters, we will do everything we can to see Obama defeated, including donating to McCain if Obama is the Democratic nominee.

THANKS. YOU JERKS HAVE MADE MAINSTREAM DEMOCRATS INTO HARDENED OBAMA HATERS.

WE'D RATHER RE-ELECT BUSH HIMSELF THAN SEE OBAMA WIN!!!!

IF OBAMA'S THE NOMINEE, WE HOPE THAT MCCAIN BRINGS BACK THE DRAFT AND SENDS EVERY SINGLE OBAMA SUPPORTER TO THE FRONT LINES, PREFERABLY WITH NO AMMO AND NO TRAINING.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:15 PM

you can tell that hillary has made a deal with the devil when the whisper campaigners are on her side, frantically attempting to spread rumors. look no further than this very message board

if the US has one more status quo president, it wont matter who gets elected next. power will have been consolidated by then well past the point of accountable and responsible government

OBAMA '08

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 6:14 PM

If OBAMA was a muslim Rev Wrong would not be able to swift boat him.

Posted by: if i he was muslim | April 29, 2008 6:14 PM

Obama is becoming an uncle tom. He denounced his preacher of 20 years and tells sharpton to use non-violence in new york to appeace white voters. whats next.

Posted by: Obama becoming uncle tom | April 29, 2008 6:14 PM

Farffalle44
I didnt know Bill was running again this year.
Did I ever said Bill wasnt a great President? And why must you Feel THe NEEd tO START USING ALL CAPS MIDWAY THROUGH your posting?
I quote Bill Clinton because his words are very true. He won his elections by being postive, talking about hope and change. Sounds familiar to me this election cycle.
I dont dislike Hillary. I LOVE Hillary. I am just supporting someone else this year. I would gladly vote for Hillary and i will gladly vote for Obama come November.

I am tired of the

FEAR
FEAR
FEAR
FEAR

Bill Clinton in 2004:
"Now one of Clinton's Laws of Politics is
this: If one candidate's trying to scare
you and the other one's trying to get you
to think; if one candidate's appealing to
your fears and the other one's appealing
to your hopes, you better vote for the
person who wants you to think and hope.
That's the best."

Posted by: feastorafamine | April 29, 2008 6:14 PM

obama denouncing wright is a sham, it's no more than two black kids ranking on each other. they got togeather and agreed that it would benefit him if he denounced wright, it's a deception and it's sad, obama should admit he is afrocentric, he should stand up lime a man and say so.

Posted by: Dwight | April 29, 2008 6:14 PM

NOW he's outraged? ... a day late and a dollar short.

Posted by: waterfrontproperty | April 29, 2008 6:14 PM

I donated to the Obama campaign this morning. After the days news...I gave again.

Posted by: jmschaldach | April 29, 2008 6:13 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:13 PM

Obama can no more dump Wright today than he said he could not disown him six weeks ago.

Obama is a transparent liar, and there are some gullible Obama supporters who will praise him no matter what he does, or what his paster of 20 plus years says.

Six weeks ago Obama gave one of the most cynical speeches in American history. Today he tops that by throwing his pastor under the bus, and the pastor's parishioners.

Posted by: politicalpuck | April 29, 2008 6:13 PM

Wright's performance at the National Press Club Q&A was outrageous. Obama had to act.

It's not easy denouncing someone who has so much good about them yet is so flawed, especially when the person made so many contributions to your life that you value e.g., relationship with Christ.

If you have ever had to account for the unacceptable behavior of a relative, you would understand. It's hard when the mother you love says something nasty about Hispanic children at a PTA function for grandparents while other parents are listening and if you're on the PTA Board, you would hate to stand there and say those views don't represent you. I don't know why people think they can control a pastor like Wright.

Don't vote for Obama if you don't want to but recognize the significance of doing what he did today. People are complex beings and many children (of all races) , some with very racist parents are working on Obama's campaign precisely because they recognize that their views and those of the people they love don't always agree, some despite having been around their racist parents all their lives.

Wright said some good things yesterday and over the weekend but he hurt Obama by showing just how far stuck in the past he is.
His comments were not helpful, no matter what his context. This spat proves far more than anything that racism is a generational struggle in America and older people in their sixties, like Wright have a really hard time moving to 2008. Every so often the ugly side shows in otherwise good, honorable people.

Obama has apologized enough for things he did not say and views he does not hold. Let's move back to the issues.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:12 PM

What a phony Obama is!

Posted by: PragmatismRules | April 29, 2008 6:12 PM

re: "Please point out ONE such racist comment (that has remained on the thread)?"

"You are damned right we are racist. At least we speak out with our racism unlike you Ni%$rs who try to hid behind your monkey ni%$rs leaders Wright, Sharpton, and Jackson. We gave you a King holiday, why can't you ni#$s just be satisfied! Now you want us to give you a President--NEVER!! Operation CHAOS - let's go!!"

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:12 PM

I've been busted I am a fraud. I promise I didn't have fraudulent relations with the American people. I didn't beat my fist on the pew that day when Wright went of on the white man. I'm very aware that the transgressions of the 16,17, and 1800's didn't have anything to do with todays white man. Please believe me I have HOPE, I'm selling HOPE don't you get it. I HOPE I get nominated. I HOPE they don't find out about Wright. I HOPE they don't find out I'm Muslim and have been bread to destroy the west I HOPE

I'm Barak Obamah and I approve this message

Posted by: Barak Obama | April 29, 2008 6:12 PM

Bill was good for the economy he just had a zipper issue and truth issue

Posted by: pant zipper | April 29, 2008 6:12 PM

Obama's speech in an abridged format: I smoked it, I just didn't inhale.

Posted by: CUtiger05 | April 29, 2008 6:11 PM

rev Wrong preaches to a PREDOMINATELY WHITE CHURCH

AND THE AFFILIATED CHURCHES are PREDONINATELY WHITE

Posted by: REV WRONG | April 29, 2008 6:10 PM

Fake JakeD (or anyone else claiming there are racists posting here):

Please point out ONE such racist comment (that has remained on the thread)? Thanks in advance.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:10 PM

The cult of Obama has joined with the far-right to try to destroy the most valuable asset of the Democratic Party -- The legacy of Bill Clinton's Presidency.

Posted by: | April 29, 2008 6:04 PM
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Bill Clinton did a good job of destroying his own legacy. Naturally, the cult of Hillary believes it was a conspiracy.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:10 PM


OBAMA SUPPORTERS


TODAY'S SCRIPT:


... Turn Clinton supporters into hardened enemies that will NEVER vote for Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:09 PM

Who is Rev Wright?

sincerely
attention span

Posted by: attention span | April 29, 2008 6:09 PM

Will Obama lose support in the black community for denouncing a respected pastor within the black community. Wright has done more for blacks during his life than Obama ever will. Can't help.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:08 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:08 PM

sharolaid

Come join Flo Tiles for Obama! We is a gang of educated Obama supoters. We is goin to Denver to loot, uh riot, in supot of Obama. We's need folks with vans and trucks to go wit us. Wanna come?

Posted by: Flo Tiles fo Obama | April 29, 2008 6:07 PM

DAC, as a fellow conservative, I agree that Obama did the right thing today. But it was the least unacceptable option for him, and Wright will cost him the election no matter what he does or says.

Also, while I admire some aspects of his character, he is an unreconstructed liberal that I can't imagine voting for under any circumstances.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:07 PM

I am amazed at these holy than thou critics of Obama, boy I would hate to do something wrong to them. These are probably the same people that would go to church on Sunday and lynch someone on Monday. Judge not yet ye be judge. The last time I checked he was human. If this is what Clinton or McCains supporters really look like then we are really in trouble. These are the same people that you have no problem with Clintons camp calling you uneducated, you are proving it now. Also isn't this the same woman who years ago said to her husband about you down home folks SCREWEM! For those of you that do claim to be Christian have you ever stopped and asked yourself WHAT WOULD JESUS DO? He would not be acting like you all. You all act like Obama was assistant pastor he just went to the church. OMG people do you have that much hate in your hearts. Here is a man that just might be the one that saves us from ourselves and we rather go to hell before we accept him. Wow that is so American! I know the world is laughing at us now.

Posted by: cheryll | April 29, 2008 6:07 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:07 PM

If Obama was untested before this process (a statement that I have never believed, but I know others have) he certainly has been through the crucible now. He has repeatedly proven to be a man who does and says the right thing under painful circumstances, who does not lash out, does not panic, but steps up to do what he has to do.

I would be, in fact I will be, proud to have him as our Commander in Chief. From what I've seen, he will face up to the situations that come up (that none of us can predict) with brains and character and make calm, common-sense decisions. We've seen him in tough times (although they are political tough times they are pretty darn tough) and he does not lose his composure.

This is not meant as a back-handed put-down for either of the other candidates, by the way, but an observation on Obama's character in the current crisis.

Posted by: Fairfax Voter | April 29, 2008 6:07 PM

I am tired of this whole race can we just appoint Hillary queen?

Posted by: LETS JUST HAVE KING | April 29, 2008 6:06 PM

"He will get a landslide"

vs.

"He won't even carry 10 states in November"

Well, one of you is wrong at least ; )

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:06 PM

MOONIES FOR OBAMA.

TODAY'S GOAL. NOT SOIL THEIR DIAPERS.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:05 PM

........OBAMA IS A LIAR, NOW AND ALWAYS...................................................................................

Posted by: | April 29, 2008 6:00 PM
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There is a picture of the Clintons in the dictionary next to the word liar.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:05 PM

Tom3

Sorry you haven't the capacity to LOVE your Country (no matter what), PRAY for her (first a thank you, then pray for betterment), and WORK to make things right ... all at the same time.

It seems you only know how to criticize. I'm so thankful to the generation in my family that came to this country, worked hard, proved the American dream and taught me that love for my Country.

Sounds like you don't like it here. Have you tried living somewhere else?

Posted by: me2 | April 29, 2008 6:05 PM

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TODAY'S SCRIPT:

...incite racial hatred against Black Americans

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:04 PM

Damn, There are a lot of racists here.

Posted by: | April 29, 2008 4:29 PM

You are damned right we are racist. At least we speak out with our racism unlike you Ni%$rs who try to hid behind your monkey ni%$rs leaders Wright, Sharpton, and Jackson. We gave you a King holiday, why can't you ni#$s just be satisfied! Now you want us to give you a President--NEVER!! Operation CHAOS - let's go!!

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:04 PM

If Obama is nominated, he will lose by a landslide. If it causes the Democratic party to reconsider its priorities and not run after the votes of the diaper crowd it will be worth it.

The cult of Obama has joined with the far-right to try to destroy the most valuable asset of the Democratic Party -- The legacy of Bill Clinton's Presidency.

If Obama is the nominee, mainstream Democrats will not support him. Some will stay home, most will vote for McCain.

Obama is a fake and a fraud.

We will do everything we can to see him defeated.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:04 PM

Wright is an issue that "threatens to weaken his campaign." Threatens? What planet do these pundits live on?

We all knew it was coming. Obama had to make a choice, and he did. Thump, thump, thump. That's the sound of the formerly loved Rev Wright, Obama's mentor and spirital advisor for the past 20 years, bumping against the pavement as Obama runs him over.

Posted by: thinkwithyourbrain | April 29, 2008 6:04 PM

DAC:

I've read the whole transcript too. You are not even a little bit concerned that Obama stayed in that church for 20 years? What does that say about his vaunted JUDGMENT? What if Obama, in fact, agrees with Rev. Wright and is lying about it now -- would THAT even concern you?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:03 PM

Steve

Bad timing or a glimps of what Wright may know? That we don't YET

Posted by: michaelt | April 29, 2008 6:02 PM

I was just kidding about all that racist, anti-american stuff. Come on, can't anyone take a joke?

Posted by: Rev. Wright | April 29, 2008 6:02 PM

Obama plus Hamas equals end of America!!

Posted by: rickrack | April 29, 2008 6:02 PM

"How different can Rev. Wright be today compared to the 20 years he was Obama's minister. Give me a break. Obama is denouncing this jerk to get votes--plain and simple. He's a politician--that's what they do--say what you will about McCain, but he tells it like it is--no BS.

Posted by: Olney 20832 | April 29, 2008 5:56 PM"

This isn't about Obama or Hillary, this is without bias what I am going to ask you. I respect McCain for his service to this country. Do you believe in equal pay? This is NOT at all an insult, this is an honest question.

Posted by: Obama2008 | April 29, 2008 6:02 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:01 PM

Go Obama!!! For Latin America

Posted by: Sebastián Salgado | April 29, 2008 6:01 PM

I wonder if Rev. Wright works for the Clinton campaign? What bad timing.

Posted by: Steve | April 29, 2008 6:00 PM


........OBAMA IS A LIAR, NOW AND ALWAYS...................................................................................

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:00 PM


Obama's crazy old preacher is right about one thing: Obama's just another politician who says what politicians say.

He won't carry 10 states in November.

I'm not sure he would carry Illinois outside Chicago.


Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:00 PM

grandma biskit

We is feelin itchy in our butts. We's can't wait to loot dem honky stos in Denver. Wanna go wit us? We gonna git you a flat screen two.

Posted by: Flo Tiles fo Obama | April 29, 2008 6:00 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:59 PM

I read he whole transcript. I am a red state conservative. Prior to today, I was not really able to even consider voting for this guy. But, this is presidential behavior. For all you folks that think what he just did was easy, you ar wrong. You can call it "politacal expediency" if you want. But, it is exaclty what needed to be done and said and he will now be subject to the scorn of many like Wright, and there are quite a few in the dem party. So... major points to Obama. Now if he would just get a clue on the government can fix everything idea... he might get a landslide.

Posted by: DAC | April 29, 2008 5:59 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:58 PM

Never mind Obama, he's trying to get elected. I'd like to hear the leaders of the black community sound in on this. How about Oprah, for instance, who attended the same church and with the same pastor? How generalized are these views, and wouldn't this be the right time to weigh in?

Posted by: malafry | April 29, 2008 3:28 PM

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interesting concept malafry; so will we the Oprah's White Sisterhood stop flocking to her show picking up on all the goods that she give to us? Surely we must hold Oprah accountable for Wright's comments too.

Posted by: SingleWhiteFemale | April 29, 2008 5:58 PM


.......OBAMA IS A LIAR.......NOW, AND ALWAYS................................

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:58 PM

BEWARE THE SEMI-ORGANIZED MESSAGE BOARD TROLLS

previously, the trolls screamed and distorted for bu$h as he lied his way through his presidency

now, the same trolls scream and distort for clinton as she lies her way through her campaign

its proof-positive that clinton is bad news for this country, and that obama will be a most welcome change

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 5:57 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:57 PM

A few months ago during a debate...SenatorClinton asks...

"Do you denounce Minister Wright?"

Repeat question. Repeat question.


Senator Obama's answer was like a visit to the dentist not forthcoming, uneasy and strained.

Actually his response was somewhat artificial...it went somethng like this...(Italics) Yeah, Hillary...ok...I denounce or renounce him...(my words) if that will satisfy you.


Forward to today...Senator Obama can't distance himself quickly enough and forcefully enough or seperate from Minister Wright.

I'm waiting for the Farakkkan love fest to begin.
Unless, of course YOU agree with his point of view.


You see, the we began this process with close to -0- knowledge and close to -0- scrutiny.

And all I heard was...quit, quit, quit. Yeah, go ahead and quit and then none of this would come out. And there's probably more.

Unless serving 2 years in the Senate and then being a community organizer mean (exactly WHAT ARE THE DETAILS OF THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZER business).

Look, and this is meant without disrespect, I gotta learn more. OK. Hey, my neighbor was a community organizer...my great uncle might have been a state senator (well, not really)...but if anyone wants to be PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES I want more than just ...he owned a baseball team, or drilled for oil in Arabia and came up with sand, or stuff like this.

I've learned my lesson. I want to know MORE. And you know what? If there isn't ANYMORE to know than there just isn't enough enough there to satisfy me.


And...while I might not be the happiest camper around with the campaign of his opponent I am SMART enough to REALIZE that she isn't some 1957 segregationist, hurtful to the middle class fear mongering and fundamentally wrong for the job kind of person that some try to make her out to be.

Mrs. Clinton owes it to the American People to STAY IN THE PRIMARY RACE, to continue to WIN VOTES IN THE LARGER INDUSTRIAL STATES...and I might remind you these are the traditional states of Democratic strength...and NOT TO QUIT.

unless you think the democratic voters of kentucky, south carolina, iowa, alaska, singapore, brazil and argentina WILL PROVIDE FOR THE ELECTION OF A Democratic President this November.

i've just come to my senses and hope and pray you just give a little thought to this...and lay your passions aside for a moment.

Posted by: jatox | April 29, 2008 5:56 PM

How different can Rev. Wright be today compared to the 20 years he was Obama's minister. Give me a break. Obama is denouncing this jerk to get votes--plain and simple. He's a politician--that's what they do--say what you will about McCain, but he tells it like it is--no BS.

Posted by: Olney 20832 | April 29, 2008 5:56 PM

Feast-I didn't know Pres. Clinton said that, those are very wise words. But then, being the Rhodes Scholar that he is, he was the only President in modern American political history to leave a BILLION PLUS SURPLUS IN THE US TREASURY-WHICH MONEY WENT OUT TO THE STATES, RAISING THE STANDARD OF LIVING FOR ALL AMERICANS-AND NOW? WHY, WE ARE UNTOLD TRILLIONS IN DEBT, WITH TRILLIONS MORE IN DEBT TO COME, ALL THANKS TO GW BUSH AND THAT EVIL DETESTABLE CHENEY!

GO HILLARY! WE WANT MORE OF THAT FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY THAT YOU AND YOUR HUSBAND CAN ONCE AGAIN DELIVER TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC-PLEASE GOD, YOU RECKLESS DEM. LEADERSHIP, UNDERSTAND WHAT A DISASTER OBAMA WOULD BE-UNDERSTAND IT, BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!

Posted by: Farffalle44 | April 29, 2008 5:56 PM

So does anyone have an opinion on this issue?

Posted by: Elroy | April 29, 2008 5:56 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:55 PM

Can we get back to why we have oil companies posting record profits while we struggle to pay $3.69 per gallon of regular gas?

Can we begin to seek out solutions to help out 48 million Americans without health insurance?

Can someone tell me why New Orleans has not been rebuilt, but we can bail-out one of the biggest investment bankers?

Can we start a real dialogue of how we get our young men and women out of Iraq with minimal risk to them, ourselves and our beloved nation?

By the way, the foreclosure crisis continues...and your taxes will go up because States base their budgets on property taxes.

Have you thought about that, or is it more satisfying to focus our fears, anger and frustrations on someone who freely and without regard has chosen to take full advantage of his 15 minutes of fame?

If I recall, liberation theology is about enlightening and uniting folks for the good of the whole. It is about hope and knowing that Jesus is savior, the model, the path and through him we can! Liberation theology is not about feeding an oversized ego.

I believe that as Americans with a great and rich nation (not rich financially because our debt is outrageous - rich in spirit and "CAN DO" attitude), we need to look beyond the rhetoric, and really explore which candidate will deliver the right combination of domestic policies, international trade policies, deplomatic policies and security policies to protect our freedom and way of life.

War is not the answer! Ethenol is not the answer! Race-baiting is not the answer!
We must move forward from the negative media coverage, and think of what it is that we want to leave for future generations. Is it a fragmented, destroyed, and financially strapped Union, or are we trailblazers, innovators and visionaries like our founding fathers and all those that have fought for Civil Rights and the way of life that we cherish?

One of my concerns is what are we planning for our veterans? Are we going to let another generation that has fought for our freedom and way of life return to no health care, foreclosed homes, high fuel prices, and scant benefits wrapped-up in red tape? The young men and women risking their lives deserve more!

Stop the chaos and scandals and unnecessary distractions... Let's rebuild America, by providing health care coverage and options to its citizens; let's get our housing market upright; let's get serious about looking at other sources of fuel, and let's give back to our young men and women who have risked it all to protect our freedom and way of life (including all 9/11 first responders who are now ill and suffering).

United we stand, ...

Posted by: Outraged By Distraction! | April 29, 2008 5:55 PM

OBAMA IS A LIAR

Wright is right. He is a politician. A lying politician.

Posted by: Jamal | April 29, 2008 5:55 PM

Rev. Wright has never been a relevant issue in the first place.. Dwelling on this is not going to solve the energy crisis, the high gas prices, or the problems with our economy. It certainly won't bring our troops home, so why do people keep clutching onto this so called "issue" of Rev. Wright's antics and patriotism (or lack there of)? I for one, couldn't care less about who this man is, just as long as he stays out of the "news" and keeps quiet for Obama's sake.. It would be completely stupid for anyone to think that his views reflect that of Rev. Jeremiah Wright, and I for one don't believe this has any relevance to the campaign.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:54 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:54 PM

git choass out my crib

Posted by: grandma biskit | April 29, 2008 5:54 PM

It's sad reading these comments to realize how much racism there really still is in America. Many of you should really be ashamed. No wonder America has reached a positively all time low. And these people seem to be the one's most loudly portraying their love of country. Sure.

Whatever Obama is he is not the person many of you are portraying. You should be ashamed of yourselves. What sort of gibberish is it to imply he's a MUSLIM extremist who also attended a CHRISTIAN church for 20 years. What are you gusy gibbering about? Please make the words flow to sentences that make some sense.

I am really starting to wonder whether America is ready to elect a black candidate.

Posted by: patrickw | April 29, 2008 5:53 PM

Obama is not a charitable person (per his taxes) but when he did make charitable contributions, most of it went to Reverend Wright. $60,000 in two years. No one got more. Not the United Negro College Fund. Not to the USO. Not to the Red Cross. Obama chose Reverend Wright to give his charitable gifts to.

That says so much.

Posted by: Karen | April 29, 2008 5:53 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:53 PM

WOULD YOU LIKE SOME PETA BREAD WITH YOU HAMMAS

Posted by: PETA BREAD | April 29, 2008 5:53 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:52 PM

Look how Obama inspires people and how he united people.

OBAMA has NEVER proved any accomplishment.

The best Obama got was to use 20 yrs to make his pastor to damn America.

Well done.

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:51 PM

AND THE NUMBER ONE REASON TO NOMINATE HILLARY CLINTON

TO FURTHER DICK MORRIS'S CAREER

Posted by: TOP TEN LIST | April 29, 2008 5:51 PM

This is great stuff! Obama is looking more and more like the devious politician that he pretends not to be. He's trashing his pastor because it's politically convenient...lol.

Posted by: politicohispanico | April 29, 2008 5:51 PM

my butt be feeling rashly
how you is?

Posted by: grandma biskit | April 29, 2008 5:51 PM

SWF

your damn skippy Hillary is rutheless and will get it done, hell she may get here rug munched while in the oval who gives a crap. Get us the jobs, lower gas prices bomb the idiots, I didn't say pitch a tent I said bomb the fools. America has lost it's back bone. Run to the aid of idiots open doors to anyone Fuk it I'm moving to the Netherlands

Posted by: michaelt | April 29, 2008 5:51 PM

I am just stunned and saddened by the hate, anger, racism, and divisive comments on this blog from my fellow human beings. Really, no wonder we can't seem to work together to help deal with climate change, feeding the poor, educating our children, and ending war. People would rather hate and criticize one another that love one another. It seems people feed off of their fears and divisions so much that they become blinded to the true wonder of life. I won't give up hope that we can have peace on this planet, but it is going to take a huge paradigm shift away from the mindset demonstrated here.

Posted by: Peace for All | April 29, 2008 5:51 PM

This is all mularkey....people who attend church regularly don't necessarily know their pastor or pries or whatever.

I've been going to the same church my entire life.....and despite the priest overseeing my 2 sisters' wedding, my 3 nephews and 3 nieces baptisms, even my own confirmation.....I don't know him personally nor do I know his politics.

Posted by: GoonieGooGoo | April 29, 2008 5:51 PM


.....WHY ARE YOU "OUTRAGED" NOW, OBAMA??? OBAMA IS A LIAR.........................

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:51 PM

FEAR
FEAR
FEAR
FEAR
FEAR
FEAR Obama

FEAR
FEAR

Bill Clinton in 2004:
"Now one of Clinton's Laws of Politics is
this: If one candidate's trying to scare
you and the other one's trying to get you
to think; if one candidate's appealing to
your fears and the other one's appealing
to your hopes, you better vote for the
person who wants you to think and hope.
That's the best."

Posted by: feastorafamine | April 29, 2008 5:51 PM

Looks like Hannity and Limbaugh have given their marching orders to the ditto-heads today.

There's nothing, absolutely nothing, that any Democrat could say that would placate the Republican trolls who frequent the WaPo board.

Now, Conservative Republican policy has brought us the war in Iraq, 4 trillion added to our national debt in seven short years, and the debacle that was the Federal Government's response to Katrina.

John McCain wants more of the same.

Don't let the trolls fool you.

If you care about this country and want peace, health care and prosperity with sound fiscal management, vote Democratic.

Posted by: anti-troll | April 29, 2008 5:50 PM

I'se don' know what all da fuss be about? We is still goin to win with Barack. If we don't we's gonna riot and loot all you Whiteys sto's. We is gonna get us some flat-screen TVs and some of dem Blue rays, some Ipods and some of dem laptops. Shore we is. We is a gang of educated Barack supoters who ain't gonna take yo KKK crap anymo. You jus wait an sea.

Posted by: Flo Tiles for Obama | April 29, 2008 5:50 PM

Bob:

It seems that Dick Morris has some evidence that Obama WAS at church that Sunday too.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 5:50 PM

First of all, Barack Obama does not share the more over-the-top, objectionable views of Pastor Wright. But even if he does harbor some of these sentiments, who gives a crap. Look at:

1) His past voting record
2) His platform for the future, including his 62-page blueprint for America, which is accessible here: http://origin.barackobama.com/issues/
3) Compare 1 and 2 above with John McCain, whose pastor is a hateful freak.

Obama wins.

Posted by: Rob Howard | April 29, 2008 5:49 PM

wHY Wheren"t you OUTRAGED

THEY TRIED TO IMPEAT YOUR HUSBAND

AND KILLED YOUR HEALTHCARE PROGRAM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:49 PM


Wash Post headline:

"Obama 'Outraged,' 'Saddened'"


Horsesh!t.

He was cracking jokes about it just last night.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:48 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:48 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:47 PM

Obama maintains that he was not present the Sunday after 9/11 when Wright made his most inflammatory statements. Although there were probably more people attending church in America on that particular Sunday than attend on Christmas or Easter, Nevertheless, Obama is undoubtedly tellingthe truth. Even if he had been there, he probably would only have been "present" as he was often was in the Illinois legislature and as he must have been when Rev. Wright's comments were reported to him, as surely they must have been at some point. Oh no, no, that's right... he first heard them only when the rest of us did. And that's because, after all, they couldn't have been anything unusual that would elicit particular noteworthiness or comment by other congregants, could they?

Posted by: Bob | April 29, 2008 5:47 PM

Obama's late/lame repudiation of Rev Wright is simply not credible. He wants us to believe that he was unaware of Rev. Wright's beliefs regarding the US Govt's persecution of African Americans. This claim is not consistent w/ the angry defense of Wright by his congregation and their enthusiastic cheering of his paranoid accusations during his controversial sermons. Obviously Wright's congregation doesn't find his sermons controversial. Rev Wright has given us a rare glimpse into the African American community and that glimpse is confirmed by the loud support of the audience at Wright's NAACP and Press Club speeches. Sen Obama may try to claim ignorance of these attitudes, but every denial just makes him less credible.

Posted by: Yellow Dog | April 29, 2008 5:47 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:47 PM

........OBAMA IS A LIAR...................

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:47 PM


Things like these happen all the time!! so OBAMA was in the church with such a person and didnot know!!
Nevertheless, he is not primetime anyway, he needs to become seasoned as he is already crashing under the load of these events, how can he answer McCaine and karl Rove? Go away and Let Hillary take over.

Posted by: SWA | April 29, 2008 5:46 PM

....WHY WEREN'T YOU "OUTRAGED AND "SADDENED BEFORE, OBAMA? WHY ARE YOU SUCH A LIAR????????????????????????

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:46 PM

That should just about take care of it. Senator Obama has stood up and made a clean break with Wright. Without a doubt, he did it to save his nomination, and that has likely been accomplished.

Hillary is not going to get a free ride now. The "bitterness" and "clinging to guns and religion" is really all that's left and will be forgotten until fall, when it will be brought up again to lesser effect.

It will be interesting to see how far the Clintons will go to undermine the Democratic nominee. You KNOW they would rather have John McCain in the White House next year, so she can run again in 2012. It will have to be subtle, sneaky and underhanded so as not to arouse the base - I'm confident the Clinton's can pull it off.

Posted by: magellan1 | April 29, 2008 5:45 PM

ho di do
we finna go to the sto
ima acks you
how you is
we finna smack you again

Posted by: ebomics | April 29, 2008 5:45 PM

HILLARY MAKE ME HOT

Posted by: PARIS HILTON | April 29, 2008 5:44 PM

It is sad to see the ignorant and racist comments so many of my fellow Americans have left on this page. We all don't know each other as well as we think. If there only were a candidate who could open up this dialouge amongst races of....I forgot, there is. No matter how dark or light someones skin is, that does not define a persons mental or moral capacity. We are all the same. STOP THE DIVISION.

Posted by: American | April 29, 2008 5:44 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:44 PM

ho di do
we finna go to the sho
ima acks you again
is you in
we finna vote bama
we finna win
when i run for the elevator i say "ho di do cracka!"
bama 08 and not too far in between

Posted by: mamabama | April 29, 2008 5:44 PM

REV WRIGHT MAKES ME HOT

Posted by: Paris Hilton | April 29, 2008 5:43 PM


..........HILLARY IS THE BEST QUALIFIED
OBAMA IS A LIAR................

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:43 PM

ima acks you how you is
is yo mammy bammy?
shonuff is
bama dun did he
we finna go

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:42 PM

This needs to be said again, lol...

just heard that Hillary just knocked out her two front teeth, tied a confederate flag around her neck, bit off all of her fingernails and dragged them around in dirt, scratched her face, has a gun holster on her hip and a shot of Johnny Walker in her right hand giving rally speeches on the flat bed of a red pickup truck with a rope tied in a noose hanging out the front door....Dang....what she won't do to win over that rural white vote! LMAO

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Posted by: SingleWhiteFemale | April 29, 2008 5:42 PM

michaelt:

I guess it is POSSIBLE that Barack Obama is telling the truth about not sharing Wright's views. Not probable, but possible. No one is answering my question about it, though.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 5:42 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:42 PM

QUOTE:
"Oh good grief, think on the priests that got away with molesting children and then think on what you just posted."

Hey [unsigned] and Tom3

Sorry, my post must have really gotten to you because you've quickly jumped to conclusions: that I am Catholic (?) and that any priest that molested children would still have a job in my church. Well, not all Christians are Catholic, educate yourselves. I am not speaking for an entire archdiocese, only for my little church. As a long time member of the directing board at my parish, I can say with certainty that we would never tolerate such behavior.

Must I spell it out for you?
OBAMA should never have tolerated such behavior. Did he tolerate it because he believed it? How could he believe it, after all, would he have the education he now has if he grew up with his father Kenya in stead of his mother in the United States of America? Why wasn't he an agent for change over the last 20 years in his church?

The real questions remain:

WHY would Obama tolerate such behavior by his "spiritual advisor"?
WHY would Obama let Wright preside at his wedding?
WHY would Obama have his children baptized by Wright?
WHY would Obama bring his children to church to hear such hateful "sermons"?
WHY is Obama denoucning Wright ONLY NOW?

For his own personal gain, but too little, too late.

Posted by: me2 | April 29, 2008 5:41 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:41 PM

we am you cracker
how you is?
we am bama
is yo mam bama?
how she is?
ima acks you
we finna riot
we finna burn you
take yoass up on out chere

Posted by: we am you | April 29, 2008 5:40 PM

I love this man! He is the first honest politian to emerge in my lifetime.
but no where near as progressive and forward thinking as Obama.

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Bless your heart. I hope you are female? Do you wet your pants?

I hate to dry, them, but he ain't honest I can give you 50+ of his own statements that prove that he isn't honest. He hasn't been close to truthful in when, where, and how he knew or heard of Wright's remarks. That is just a starter.

Posted by: Chief | April 29, 2008 5:40 PM

This is hilarous. And to look at all the hate, it just shows what this election is all about. Personally, the problem here is we don't have a single candidate worth electing. Honestly, are any of you really inspired by any of these people. They are all the same, they will say what they need to say to get elected, but won't stand by any decisions they make. Its no longer about right or wrong, its all about who will give me more votes or not. Wake up. Please tell me this country still has a Lincoln or Washington to offer us.
And the real issue here isn't that this preacher is a racist or not. let him, its America and he has the freedom to think or say whatever he wants. Does it show Obama's character flaws here? yeah, it shows a lack in judgment for a politician who should have known better to avoid being mixed up with a person with those views especially if he wanted to be president. But the real issues aren't being addresssed by any of the candidates.
How many of the candidates have spoken up about illegal immigration? there is the real threat to the American way of life. We're losing our language, our culture, our neighborhoods are starting to look like a postcard from tijuana. But they avoid it. Why? Because its not politically correct and they want votes. They could care less because they aren't watching their towns turned into a foriegn land.
The health care plan is great in a fantasy world, but first off, I don't remember anything in the constitution that this country is founded on community support or the government takes care of the people, it was founded on the idea that you work hard and you reap the rewards. So why should I work hard just to watch my money go to pay for someone else's healthcare? Thats not America, thats socialism. But lets skate by because the government will take care of me....we have to take care of ourselves before we should expect anyone to take care of us.
Oil, they are all getting contributions from someone who is opposed to us drilling our own money. Hillary and Obama get money from tree huggers who drive SUVs that get 5 miles per gallon, McCain gets money from the oil companies.
SO really...the question isn't who is the best, it's whose not the worst? And does anyone else see a problem with this?

Posted by: mwhit | April 29, 2008 5:40 PM

REV WRONG SPOKE TO MAINLY WHITE MEMBERS

MAYBE THEY ALL SHOULD HAVE LEFT

IF HE SAID THIS STUFF SO OFTEN

Posted by: HYDE PARK | April 29, 2008 5:40 PM

Thank you Sen. Obama. We're praying for you. You will be an amazing president!

Posted by: Kristen | April 29, 2008 5:40 PM

It looks like Obama needed to see which way the wind was blowing before taking a definitive position. If that be the case, it seems that we may be in for an indecisive White House for the next four years.

Posted by: Estr | April 29, 2008 5:40 PM

Obama knocked Rev. Wright out of the park today! Well done Sir!

More interestingly is the Ron Paul phenomena, which is looking to shave a good five percentage points off of McCain's vote. The only question I have, other than a mild interest in the vice presidential picks, is whether Obama get 55% or 56% in the November election.....

As to Hillary, as they say around here, fuggaboutit. Her flaming wreck has almost fully augured in.

Just wait til the Dems rally round Obama. McCain's gonna look like gum on a steamroller.

Posted by: Rob L. | April 29, 2008 5:40 PM


..............OBAMA IS A LIAR.............

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:40 PM

Linda I:

It doesn't concern you, at all, that Obama stayed in that church -- listening to those sermons you are trying to downplay -- for 20 years? What if Obama, in fact, agrees with Rev. Wright and is lying about it now -- would THAT concern you?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:40 PM

i acks you how you is?
we am bama!
gitchass out my crib

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:38 PM

I'm blown away by people who for one minute would think that Barak doesn't share Wrights views. I have left churches for less. Obomya's whole campaign has been scripted and he's for the most part kept a cool head. They shot H Dean down for less than this 4 years ago. Denounce HA this dudes whole program is about making friends and negotiating with idiots in the Middle East go figure. I read this crap you people post daily and 80% of America has yet to wisen up. It tookthe majority 8 years to figure out Bush is a FU. It's not the politicians it's us as a whole. We buy whatever's being sold. Billary is ruthless and doesn't try to hide it. Everyone mocks Bill for getting a hummer in office WTFE.....

Posted by: michaelt | April 29, 2008 5:38 PM

we am obama!
how you is?

Posted by: mamabamas | April 29, 2008 5:38 PM

For the record, I am retired (and registered Independent, not Republican). What's your excuse?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 5:38 PM

Quick poll--answer "help" or "hurt" only.

Does today's press conference help or hurt Senator Obama's campaign?

My answer: Help.

But we'll see.

Posted by: Don't Speculate about AAs if You Aren't One | April 29, 2008 5:37 PM

CIA SNOOPING GOT ME DOWN
GOT ME RUNNIN
GOT ME ALL OVER TOWN

Posted by: fingerprint file | April 29, 2008 5:37 PM

if obama had ever claimed wright was his spritual advisor or mentor, it might be cause for concern. but they have both made clear this was never the case. wright was simply the pastor at a church obama belonged to

besides, its pretty hard to find a religious person who ISNT off their rocker batsh!t crazy.... religion is a mild form of induced insanity

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 5:37 PM

CLEARLY, this is a question of JUDGEMENT!

Obama's campaign hinges on "WHo has the correct judgement?"

He attacks Clinton about the Irag war, questioning her judgement. He says he was against the war. It wouldn't have mattered, HE COULD NOT VOTE on this, as he was NOT a member of the Senate at the time!

NOW his denunciation of Wright speaks volumes about HIS JUDGEMENT!!! It took him 20 years to know this?

Give me a break!

IT'S OVER for OBAMA

Posted by: BJ | April 29, 2008 5:37 PM

its tragic. Why is the media protecting Mr. Obama, by refusing Mr. Wright airtime.
I think Mr wright is refreshing not disastruos for Mr Obama. If Mr Obama thinks he's going to be nominated simply by being all things to all. It' not going to work.
This COUNTRY needs some fresh air. Mr Obama, the change you been talking about will be gone if you distance your self from people that love you. You will become more of the same

Posted by: broadwaydebut | April 29, 2008 5:37 PM


...........OBAMA IS A LIAR...............

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:37 PM

re: "Does this JakeD guy have a job, or is he retired with, pathetically, nothing better to do than post on this site?"


So, you really think it's only one person...

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:36 PM

Obama threw Wright under the bus, about time since Wright won't shut up and not set Obama up for failure. You know the press has to take some of the heat for wright's comments they are giving him audience. I sincerely hope the press will take the responsibility after today and let this story die, forget the ratings-be americans and not opportunists. Obama is right for America.

Posted by: jac | April 29, 2008 5:36 PM

ebony and ivory
right brain left brain
how you is?

Posted by: Sharolaid | April 29, 2008 5:36 PM

ebony and ivory
right brain left brain
how you is?

Posted by: Sharolaid | April 29, 2008 5:36 PM

I am not voting for Wright! Obama is going to be great for America. He has my vote.

Posted by: Linda I | April 29, 2008 5:36 PM

Oh can the Lies Barack Hussein Obama and
Michelle Obama you stayed in Rev Wright
Black Church Purely For Your Own Political
Gains With His Black Congregation Admit it!

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA AND MICHELLE OBAMA ARE
AS BIG OF TOTAL LIARS AS GEORGE W BUSH
AND DICK CHENEY! NO TO OBAMA ON ELECTION
DAY!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:36 PM

WHAT HAPPEN TO THE TRINITY CHURCH CHOIR DIRECTOR IN DEC. 2007??????????????

HE WAS FOUND SHOT TO DEATH!!!

HOMOSEXUALITY INVOLVED...DRUGS.....MAYBE OBAMA.

PERHAPS REV. WRIGHT WILL TELL US ALL ABOUT IT, YOU THINK?

Posted by: Ebonyflash | April 29, 2008 5:36 PM

Does anyone else know what was "UPDATED" in the original story above?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 5:36 PM

Missouri Rep. Ike Skelton endorses Hillary. With NC Gov Mike Easley, that's two supers today!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:35 PM

I think that we have become a very paranoid nation since 9/11 and if you are going to run for the highest office in this land in this day and age, you just can't give people so many things to worry about!!

I agree that when you add it all up, there are just too many unanswered questions about Obama's true beliefs, associations and background.

How can you spend 20 years with a Pastor and not live and breathe what they have preached??

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Posted by: JD | April 29, 2008 5:35 PM

Does this JakeD guy have a job, or is he retired with, pathetically, nothing better to do than post on this site?

Posted by: Bill | April 29, 2008 5:35 PM

How you is?

Posted by: Sharolaid | April 29, 2008 5:34 PM

It figures Jake the Repuke would listen to Newt Gingrich, who is a scumbag.

Gingrich dumped his wife while she was in a hospital bed with cancer.

Jake, you're a scumbag just like Newt.

Typical Repuke moron.

Posted by: Tom3 | April 29, 2008 5:34 PM

WELL WRITTEN ARTICLE.
BARACK OBAMA!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:33 PM

........OBAMA IS A LIAR..............

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:33 PM

All Republicans, you are hereby required to denounce George Bush and the GOP or be considered muderers of 4000 Americans. You are also considered guilty of wrecking our economy and making us slaves of the COMMUNIST CHINESE. Go ahead now and repent, if not you will not get another chance to mend your anti-American ways. Works both ways you clowns.

Posted by: Tired of it all | April 29, 2008 5:33 PM

How you is?

Posted by: Sharolaid | April 29, 2008 5:33 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:32 PM

Zaggy:

"... if both Hillary and McCain would do the right thing and drop out of the race Obama could very well win the presidency."

Lots of confidence you've got there (not). Instead, just have Cheney resign and somehow get Bush to nominate Obama as Vice President; then Bush could resign, and Obama "could very well" become President under that fantasy scenario too?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 5:32 PM

Americans are simple....Obama has a church and a home in Chicago......a 30 sec sound bite is not enogh to disown a friend that has helped you.......Obama gave Mr Wright a chance to explain his point and Mr Wright has gone wild......this is the time to denounce him.....if it is too late for you then you were never on Obamas team anyway......I've played on a team people make mistakes but as wild as Mr Wright has gone he has not sent anyones son to fight a war based on lies......Hillary did not show judgement .......Wright is established he has served the country......his extreme view is his own and you cant take accomplishment from the accomplished.......most Obama haters are consistently on WAPO talking up your candidate and Clinton haters doing the same...most candidate want you to forget about the war, economy and housing crisis....Mr Wright has very lil to do with the all mentioned so why does he continually have a spot on primetime.....its easy Wright spoke of it corporate owned media........United states of poverty....2020

Posted by: England | April 29, 2008 5:31 PM

To the white educated 37 year old still living in Obamaland -- can you tell me where in his career he has made a change for the better? He was in Illinois politics for 12 years -- and it was never more corrupt. A governor in jail, another on the way, dozens going to trial, the city under federal oversight for cronyism and nepotism, terrorists as "education experts", racist preachers, and now the worst gang warfare in Chicago history. This is Obamaland. This is where he spent 16 years as an elected representative. He went along with the corruption and cronyism. He complains about Washington, D.C. yet he is part of the most corrupt political machine in country, OBAMA is Chicago, and we are better off without Chicago politics going national.

Posted by: Karen | April 29, 2008 5:31 PM

Keep blogging dylan. your FBI file is growing.

Posted by: conrad | April 29, 2008 5:31 PM

Wright is simply jealous of Obama and is trying to upstage him. What a showoff! Definitely not speaking with humility and love nor Christ-like in any way. Didn't he call himself a Pastor? Wow - could have fooled me. Barack, your loyalty is ended to this man because he is trying to ruin your good work. You should publicly state that you are resigning from that church and distance yourself because your image as the next president is affected. Don't let this little twirp damage your campaign. Wright is jealous of you and wants to be the BIG MAN!

Posted by: Betti | April 29, 2008 5:31 PM

Rev. Wright was RIGHT!!
Obama says what he has to say to get votes and to protect/affect electability.

We may disagree with some of Rev. Wright's views but he sure was not Rev. Wrong on that point!

Posted by: Ebonyflash | April 29, 2008 5:31 PM


Rev. Jeremiah Wright didn't say anything new at the National Press Club. Where was the outrage before? Why not disown him in Philadelphia speech? Instead Obama threw his own grandma under the bus in his Philadelphia speech.

Obama is a liar. "The person that I saw yesterday was not the person that I had come to know over 20 years." Give me a break. The person we saw yesterday repeated the same thing, only in a non-bombardic way.

Time to unite behind Hillary Clinton!

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:31 PM

"Well, then I guess Obama is safe because nobody with a brain believes Obama shares Wright's controversial views."

Wrong!

Anyone with a brain open to input from the outside world will wonder: 'Who is telling the truth about how they really feel here, about what tyhey truly believe; the Rev. Wright, or Candidate Obama?'

Those who cannot distinguish the difference between what they want to believe, and what is actually true, will dismiss the Wright controversy (and any other information that fails to reinforce their worldview) out of hand.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:30 PM

Its not time wait your turn..your young take it easy..I know I was once young like you

take you time, maybe you should travel

Posted by: WELCOME TO THE MACHINE | April 29, 2008 5:30 PM

This is a real shame. Barack Obama is the first black candidate with a serious shot a winning. He is running on a message of unity and overcoming racial divisions. That is apparently too much for Jeremiah Wright, once Obama's friend and pastor. He is trying to stab Obama in the back because he wants blacks to only be seen as victims. If Obama were to win, who would listen to his rancid diatribes?

Jeremiah Wright is a self-serving, backstabbing, hate-filled racist scumbag. Obama should have distanced himself sooner but he has finally done so for good. Go Barack!

Posted by: RealChoices | April 29, 2008 5:30 PM

Sorry, Obama! YOUR "OUTRAGE" ABOUT YOUR SPIRITUAL ADVISOR WRIGHT'S REMARKS IS JUST ABOUT 20 YEARS TOO LATE!

And you're getting your just desserts-just like you very hatefully threw your own white grandmother under the bus, calling her a racist, and equating (as only you could do) her innocuous remarks about being afraid of black men out on the street (which is not racist at all) with the good Reverend's remarks -defending HIM-THE EGOTISTICAL RACIST SUPREME at the expense of your own GRANDMOTHER, now Wright has turned the tables, and thrown YOU under the bus, because he strongly insinuated THAT YOU WERE BEING DISINGENUOUS, (like we didn't already know that about you!) BECAUSE YOU'VE NEVER REALLY REPUDIATED HIM, AND THAT HE IS STILL YOUR SPIRITUAL ADVISOR-HA HA! HE WAS 100% RIGHT ABOUT THAT!

GET OBAMA OUT OF HERE PLEASE! WE HAVE AN ELECTION TO WIN, AND HE HAS SPENT TOO MUCH TIME ON CENTER STAGE WHERE HE NEVER BELONGED IN THE FIRST PLACE-IT IS THE TWO CANDIDATES THAT ARE CLEARLY THE MOST QUALIFIED CLINTON/MCCAIN-WHO ARE THE ONES TO SUPPORT-AND AS THE MOST RECENT POLLS SHOW, IT IS HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON WHO CAN TAKE DOWN MCCAIN AND THE REPUBS. IN NOVEMBER!

Posted by: FARFALLE44 | April 29, 2008 5:30 PM

If Obama shakes your hand, don't forget to make sure you still have your watch and wedding ring afterwards.

Posted by: Obama is Joe Isuzu.

Is that just with Obama? Or is that applicable to all black men, and men of color? One thing the majority of these deplorable and racist posts here clearly indicate, Rev. Wright has a right to be paranoid about what his country is capable of.

Posted by: tydicea

No, tydicea, it's not all black men or men of color. It's all politicians. Anyone who trusts a politician is an idiot, regardless of the politician's skin color.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:29 PM

A little too late. Now he denounces after his political career is on the line. He didn't know about Farrahkan before? None of Wright's views? Please. Wright coming out is a no winning situation for Obama. If it's true he never heard of Wright's anti American stands for 20 years one has to question Obama's awareness and judgment. . If he knew of Wrights hate speeches and denied it then it comes down to just plain lying and serious lack of character.

Posted by: Kay Lani Ray Rakfo | April 29, 2008 3:21 PM
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Is that what it comes down to, judgment-like sending our mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, sons, & daughters to war without regard for facts; lying like imagining coming under attact by snipers in Bosnia because the lie sounded good for a foreign policy story; or a serious lack or character like throwing down shots in a bar chased by beer in an effort to make poor people believe that you are just like them despite the fact that you earned almost $110 million in income over seven years and probably haven't had a beer in at least 15 years.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:29 PM

Ok, I am really happy that Obama took this head on. Alot of my questions about his character have been answered in a positive way (in my mind at least). He took a stand finally and is not as much of a hypocrite as I thought.

It will make voting for him in the fall much much easier on me. Honestly it was paining me to have to abstain from voting for the first time in 20 years.

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:28 PM

Anonymous at 5:25 PM:

It doesn't concern you, at all, that Obama stayed in that church -- listening to those sermons you are trying to downplay -- for 20 years? What if Obama, in fact, agrees with Rev. Wright and is lying about it now -- would THAT concern you?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 5:28 PM

I like Obama, I think he is a smart man, and a great speaker with a good heart.

But...This is the office of the presidency we are talking about. It would be one thing if there were just a slip up occasionally..but from his wife's comments, to his past associations with some very questionable people, to his 20 YEAR ASSOCIATION with Rev. Wright, to not wearing the flag pin, it is just too much.

The American people have and will put up with a hell of a lot...From Clinton's philandering, to Dubya's out and out stupidity and moronic behavior--but your allegiance and patriotism just can't take this many shots! That is the ONE LEVEL that you must be squeaky clean on if you are going to run for POTUS.

I don't think this is as much about race, as it is simple credibility.

We can't take the DRAMA that comes with OBAMA!!

Posted by: Carrie | April 29, 2008 5:27 PM

Wright may not be wright about everything but there are some things he says that ring truer than the corporate media allow for. 911 was blowback. We do terrorise other countries. There are consequeces to global bully politics the US practices. The US in their voters name, meddle constantly in other countries. Even the first Gulf war was half cooked up. Saddam was encouraged to invade Kuwait. Then we frightened Saudi Arabia so much with stories of Saddams scuds that we effectively forced our troops onto Saudi soil. We knew perfectly well we could deal with Sadddam with a flick of the wrist, but we wanted our troops on Saudi oil soil, so we lied. Thats one of the main reason for Osama bin Laden and company to turn from being our CIA funded mujahadeen fighting against the Russians in Afganistan to being our mortal enemy. We invade, manipulate and occupy countries. You think its not terrifying to have bombs drop out of the sky aiming for you? Many in this world have faced those American tax payer funded bombs. No American on US has ever had to face a bomb being dropped on them.

Posted by: Joe | April 29, 2008 5:27 PM

I think people give Obama too little credit. Obama is a fighter, and if both Hillary and McCain would do the right thing and drop out of the race Obama could very well win the presidency.

Don't let these petty stories against Obama fool you.

Posted by: Zaggy | April 29, 2008 5:27 PM

The scrawny purple lipped freak should have been "saddened" ten years ago. It won't wash, Obama. You halfwitted fraud.

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Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 5:25 PM

I am a 37 year old white college educated Obama supporter. I cannot believe the ignorant posts I see on this blog. This is why we have voted for George W Bush for 2 terms. It seems we as Americans have become so desynthesized from media and stereotype, that we have lost the capacity to discern the heart of another human being. Obama's message, not Rev Wrights's, is what has turned me on. It's like looking through an hourglass, through the smoke of the world around us, and seeing the right person for the right time in our Nations history. This isn't a high school competition. This isn;t a popularity contest. This isn's a competition for the best soundbite. This is an election for POTUS... Do we really think that somehow Barack is going to jump into the whitehouse and subjugate white people? People don;t make any sense. McCain wants more war, for goodness sakes, and Hillary wants to obliterate Iran and/or start a Middle East Cold War. Some people cannot see past the nose on the face... this is a helluva hot kitchen Obama is in right now and he is handling it well. Yet some of these comments are "gotcha" comments. He would be scolded for denouncing or not denouncing, scolded for going to the church, and scolded for being a so called muslim in the same breath. But, as it were, at the end of the day, the ignorant vote with the enlightened, and the likes of Ann Coulter will be praised while America shoves Obama under the bus. This is the beginning if the end of our country, I believe we've lost our way. The bigots in the room are judging Obama for the very bigotry they hold in themselves.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:25 PM

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NEOCONS FOR CLINTON:

William (Bill) Kristol; Editor of the Weekly Standard, key pusher for invading Iraq, talking about Hillary Clinton:

"I like to be on Hillary's side"

"She is a good candidate"
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352785,00.html

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:24 PM

The pope still gets associated with the Nazis from 60 years ago, and we are supposed to let a mere mediocre politician off the hook in an instant. I use the term "incoherent" to describe liberals, and it has never been truer than it is now.

Posted by: bkp | April 29, 2008 5:24 PM

Mark Skudlarek:

You really think that the U.S. got what we deserved on 9/11 for winning World War II? BTW: Newt Gingrich theorized today that Wright may not want this particular congregation member to get elected ...

BB:

No problem -- it's getting fast and furious on this thread -- we are going to set a record to 1,000 posts in just a few hours.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 5:24 PM

After reading most of whats been written here , it would seem that the right rev was just that , Right !!!

Posted by: Me ... | April 29, 2008 5:24 PM

You bitter, miserable idiots on this board are so sad. Obama will be the nominee and will win the Presidency. Its time for a change and all the hateful Hitlery supports can't stomach she won't win. Obama will win Indiana and North Carolina and you can't stop it. This nonense only makes me like him more. Notice that he doesn't lie like Hitlery, we can't find anything on Obama so we are now blaming him of the views are everyone he knows. Are you guys perfect? So you agree with EVERYTHING the people in you life think? You guys probably don't have anyone in your life. Its you insane, intolerant losers is what is wrong with this country. Obama is actually being attacked for not being the typical dirty, sleazy politician because you've all been BRAINWASHED by all the Bush's and Clinton's and corruption of the past. I will gladly vote for Barack when he's the nominee and despite how vicious you guys are, Obama will still fight to give you a better life because that's the kind of man he is. He will still treat you all with kindness and compassion and make decisions that will make you lives better.

Posted by: Carol | April 29, 2008 5:24 PM

He did the right thing. Where this will lead I do not know. As a black woman I recognized that Rev Wright is of a generation that is long gone.
This in my estimation is his greatest crisis not anything before.
He did get two superdelegates today but who knows.
The media will continue to eat itself.
I just wished that she was not in the race anymore, it makes things doubly hard since she will join the fray.

Posted by: debragw | April 29, 2008 5:24 PM

Oh Obama. You must remain strong, disagree but continue to love. God bless you. '08

Posted by: Obama2008 | April 29, 2008 5:23 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:23 PM

Why do the Neocons support Clinton?

BECAUSE SHE IS ONE OF THEM!!!

Posted by: Tom3 | April 29, 2008 5:22 PM

Go Barack! We are praying for you. I'll go to the polls on Tuesday and cast my VOTE for OBAMA.

Posted by: George from Indiana | April 29, 2008 5:22 PM

If you were serious re:

"Tell us what the black community really believes. We are listening"

then you would talk to your neighbor
you would ask a Black American what he thought. That's what I do.

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:21 PM

Would the real Christians please stand up?

I'm not even a Christian, but it really gets me when everyone piles on Wright for being "unpatriotic". He's a MINISTER, a PREACHER. He's NOT a pol. How can anyone seriously imagine that, if Jesus were alive today, he'd be singing paeans to our corrupt/dysfunctional government and waving the newly blood-stained American flag in a paroxysm of jingoistic national pride?! How can anyone accuse a Christian preacher of being a liberal extremist, and not see the stark irony that Jesus too was a liberal extremist in the eyes of the Roman Empire and the orthodox religious establishment of his day? And then you people go around accusing Barack of hypocrisy... I wonder, how many pieces is YOUR glass house in, by now.

Oh yeah, let's all keep listening to troglodytes like Rush and Hannity, and be their faithful robots; I mean, were would we all be if we HADN'T kept listening to them for the last 10 years?? Y'all make me sick.

Posted by: B.E.S. | April 29, 2008 5:21 PM

Gore '08

Posted by: rzzzzz | April 29, 2008 5:21 PM

Wow! Seems like a war going on here. Everybody needs to calm down. Obama has rightfully slammed Wright, now let's see what happens. All these folks here that act like he's toast, may be wrong. Obama's been known to have everything slide off of him like Teflon so we shouldn't be so premature.

I'm sure the Mancrush Clubs at MSNBC and CNN are in full damage-control mode. Everybody take a deep breath.

Posted by: brigittepj | April 29, 2008 5:20 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:20 PM

Rev. Jesse Jackson and Rev. Al Sharpton, why so quiet??? Does Rev. Wright speak for the black churches and communities??? It is hard bo believe that the racial bigotry that exemplifies Rev. Wright, and has raised him to a Super-star status, is preached and condoned in the black Christian churches. By remaining silent and not denouncing Rev. Wright's outrageous diatride you are in effect condoning it. Tell us what the black community really believes. We are listening.

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:19 PM

Obama...we love you!!! You have won over two supers TODAY....in the midst of the storm you often do well.....Can't wait to dance at that innaugaration party.....

Posted by: Obama 08 | April 29, 2008 5:18 PM

"It doesn't take but ONE viewing of Fox News to understand what it's all about."

Only inbred illiterate Repuke rednecks watch FOX "News".

Everyone else knows it is Repuke propaganda, lies and spin.

Posted by: Tom3 | April 29, 2008 5:18 PM

MASSIVE VIDEO CATCH

SHOW OBAMA

SKIP CHURCH

1000 OF TIMES

ON U-TUBE NOW

Posted by: new flash | April 29, 2008 5:18 PM

Obama denounced Reverend Wright. Why doesn't MCCAIN step up to the plate and repudiate Pastor John Hagee and his hateful comments. There is a double standard at work here........

Posted by: johnny K | April 29, 2008 5:18 PM

I hope SOMEONE is offering Rev. Wright armed bodyguard protection.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 4:51 PM
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That is why the Nation of Islam security was with him in D.C., that would be the same security team that squashed homicides in the District (without weapons) until Republican Bob Dole had their contract snatched. How is ole' one arm doing anyway?

Someone mentioned Rush Limbaugh...Is he still around. Didn't he go through some kind of "intervention" or something. You can never listen seriously to a man who pops pills like tic-tacs.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:18 PM

Its a bit of a sick situation that a few so-called super-delegates will decide the future president of the united states. Doesnt say much for democracy

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:17 PM

"So, being highly educated isn't the end all and be all of life, proof positive and justification of the correctness of one's arguments in favor of Obama. But isn't that a big positive the Obama supporters have been spouting about all along: that he and his supporters tended to be the "Highly Educated?"

Well, eating right and exercising is a good thing but once in awhile someone who is in shape will still have a heart attack. That doesn't mean we should all start eating big-macs in front of the TV. Being educated is a good thing, despite Rev. Wright- but there's a bit of a false story here. Yes, Obama's supporters tend to be better educated, and I'm sure that means something (what I'm not sure). The candidates, however, are both well educated. Heck, even Bush went to an Ivy League school. The real problem is with the anti-intellectual movement that gave us Bush. That's why I'm bothered by Clinton- when she goes and adopts a southern accent and sips whiskey she's giving into that same movement that attacks Obama for being nuanced in his answers and 'talking pretty'. Education isn't the real factor for me, the real factor is watching how the candidates treat education- as a positive or negative. Bush and his cronies consider education to be a necessary evil. I like that Obama seems to hold it up more so than Clinton as a good thing.

Posted by: epthorn | April 29, 2008 5:17 PM

Rev. Wright has established his legacy; the black man who stabbed his parishioner in the back. Rev. Wright will forever be known as the man who screwed this countries first, viable black/white candidate. Looks like we will be left with the lying Clinton's again. Let us not forget " I did not have relations with that woman" and "we had to run for cover because of the shooting in Bosnia".

Posted by: Bill | April 29, 2008 5:17 PM

This message was expected since the first time we watched the videos of his Reverend.
Now it is late to say who isn't totally agree with what their "EX-Reverend" said ....
Too late to Obama ... and all democrats know it.
Go Hillary !!!

Posted by: Nuccia | April 29, 2008 5:16 PM

i am begining to believe a even depper truth

OBAMA PLAYED HOOKEY INSTEAD OF CHURCH

oh my

Posted by: conspircy theory | April 29, 2008 5:16 PM

Tom - ROFL!

JakeD - sorry about the accidental post under your name. That was supposed to go in the body of the message.

BB

Posted by: Fairlington Blade | April 29, 2008 5:16 PM

just heard that Hillary just knocked out her two front teeth, tied a confederate flag around her neck, bit off all of her fingernails and dragged them around in dirt, scratched her face, has a gun holster on her hip and a shot of Johnny Walker in her right hand giving rally speeches on the flat bed of a red pickup truck with a rope tied in a noose hanging out the front door....Dang....what she won't do to win over that rural white vote! LMAO

Posted by: Hee Haw!!! | April 29, 2008 5:16 PM

While I was unaware of any conspiracy theory in which the US Govt developed, or spread the HIV, the rest of what the pastor said is true. A simple, unbiased exploration of the history of the expansion of US territories supports Wrights views. The real problem is that most Americans will not surrender the lie that American government is, and was always, somehow immune to such imperialistic, and war-like tendencies; that America's motives are always righteous. America is no more right than GW is when he makes his stupidest of decisions. The best thing about America is that there is an opportunity to make it better. Wright may want to shut-up if he wants his congregation member to get elected. American's are fickle voters.

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:16 PM

Idahotreasures:

That's the one downside to a brokered convention -- therefore, I agree with Dr. Dean -- all of the super delegates (including himself and Speaker Pelosi) should announce their intentions no later than the day before the convention ; )

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 5:16 PM

Ready to Move on, I bet that if your pastor had screamed, "God Damn America!" repeatedly, you'd have noticed it.

Posted by: Jake | April 29, 2008 5:16 PM

Too late Barak. Your pastor, Rev. Wright who knows you best has poisoned the well. He says that you say what you say because you are a politician. You do what you have to do and he does what he has to do.

So where is the truth in all of this doing what you have to do stuff. Do you really mean that you denounce the preacher, or as the preacher says, are you just saying that you do for political expediency.

Your credibility Barak has been shot to pieces by your preacher. No one is elected president who lacks credibility. Bush had it then lost it at Katrina.

You, Barak, may have had it, but have lost it in the words of your own mentor Rev. Wright.

Posted by: Beiruti | April 29, 2008 5:15 PM

The photography of Bill Clinton shaking hands with Jeremiah Wright (and referenced in a prior post) can be reached at

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/20/photograph-of-bill-clinton-and-rev-wright-surfaces/?scp=1-b&sq=bill+clinton+wright+&st=nyt

Posted by: FirstMouse | April 29, 2008 5:15 PM

If Obama shakes your hand, don't forget to make sure you still have your watch and wedding ring afterwards.

Posted by: Obama is Joe Isuzu.

Is that just with Obama? Or is that applicable to all black men, and men of color? One thing the majority of these deplorable and racist posts here clearly indicate, Rev. Wright has a right to be paranoid about what his country is capable of.

Posted by: tydicea | April 29, 2008 5:15 PM

47 Million Americans have NO health service.

Government health service would be a Godsend to them.

If single-payer healthcare is so bad, why does the rest of the industrialized world use it? Why are we the only ones to hang on to a corrupt, profit-driven healthcare system?

You Repukes are idiots. I hope you all die from lack of healthcare, you scumbags.

Posted by: Tom3 | April 29, 2008 5:15 PM

I don't understand people sometimes you don't know the full extent of a person until they roll out all their inner being. For instance, look at that man that held his daughter captive in the basement for 24 years. People knew him and thought he was nice and everything. He went to parties, family get-togethers and had friends. If going by what everyone is stating on this website then since the man has been caught everyone that knew him should have known what he was doing since all of these children were popping up but his wife was never pregnant. Of course then everyone including his wife, who lived in the house should then go up for trial. Do you get what you guys are talking about because I don't like the non-listening or accusation factors being stated on here. Calling this man scum that never did any murder or rape is a bit harsh and judgmental. How many of you would like to be judge by the people you hang out with...for all you know they may have kid-porn in the closet.

There are people out there and they happen to be of various colours that have known mass murders. These people may have said something strange but no one took note of it. Are the people that knew them guilty then of the same crime? Why isn't it looked at the same way the Wright issue is being looked at...guilty by association? Is it a colour issue; which is something we really need to get away from to actually function in this country? I am sooooo tired of it. We do need to grow up and stop looking at something G_d given and one can not change. We are human and need to stop being so easily swayed by what people say and we need to look at are we being played like a fiddle. Start a little fire and the people will make it burn although we could easily put it out.

Posted by: It is a shame | April 29, 2008 5:15 PM

Good for you Senator! I mean, he wasn't taunting the media, he was taunting you.

Posted by: NthAnalytics | April 29, 2008 5:15 PM

It doesn't take but ONE viewing of Fox News to understand what it's all about. Let's see, Obama has known Rev Wright for 20 years. If he's the good Christian he says he is, that means he's been to that church at least 1,000 times in the past 20 years. And he has NEVER heard Rev Wright's rhetoric? You'd have to be the stupidest person on Earth to believe this man.

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Commenting the comments :

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Posted by: ratl | April 29, 2008 5:14 PM

REV WRONG

PREACHED TO A MAINLY WHITE CHURCH

Posted by: church | April 29, 2008 5:14 PM

wmviolinist1, there's a huge difference between having friends whose views you disagree with and staking your personal and political philosophy on their beliefs, to the point that you dedicate a book to them. And I bet if your neocon Catholic buddy spouted white power crap from the pulpit every Sunday, you wouldn't be such good buddies with him.

Posted by: Jake | April 29, 2008 5:13 PM

Given this news, Rush Limbaugh has called a temporary cease-fire on Operation CHAOS in order to re-evaluate the strategy and issuing new orders to vote for Barack HUSSEIN Obama now that Clinton is winning.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 3:05 PM
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Sounds fair to me; now Obama can make up for the thousands of votes that he lost in TX, OH, and PA. And, he'll have plenty of money to keep his campaign going if his supporters are anything like me; after his press conference today, I doubled my original contribution. GO OBAMA!

Posted by: SingleWhiteFemale | April 29, 2008 5:13 PM

Reverend Wright is right. America and Americans have to realize that they cannot spend the better part of a century terrorizing the world, and not have a little bit of terror shoved back in their faces. America's legacy has been one of barbarism and terror. Examples of American teerror: from the Spanish American War, built up on a pillar of lies, to the intervention in WWI, to the mass incineration of German CIVILIANS through fire-bombing Dresden and Leipzig, to the liquidation of Japanese in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, to the Korean intervention, to the intervention in Iran in 1953, to the terrorism against southeast Asians in the 60's and 70's, to the wars in the middle east, it has been a legacy of barbarism and terror.

Posted by: lordsalisbury | April 29, 2008 5:13 PM

I am a Bible Scholar and do believe that God became angry with the ways and the evilness of mankind and decided to destroy the earth by water. Yes, Rev. Wright is true in many of his statements. He is being critized because of it, but just like the people doing Noah's time--who didn't believe that God would punish the land and continued to do wrong and laughed and criticized Noah. We do serve a vengeful God and yes, he can and he will destroy a cruel and evil world. God was so upset with mankind, that he stated that he hated that he had created him. God destroyed mankind, with the exception of Noah and his immediate family members. Pastor Wright has spoken about such things, and he is being ostersized because of it. Who is suppose to be closer than your spouse? The Bible says bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh and because of that you become one. Hillary knew of her husband's cheating ways, (the one who is throwing the first stone), DID NOT denounce or leave her husband for his ways. How soon do we forget? Let her question her national co-chair person Stephanie Tubb-Jones about her former pastor and now his son who also preached the same type messages. If we asked 100% African-Americans about sermons heard in their churches--99 1/2% (if honest) will answer I've heard such a sermon. We've heard and not agreed, but yet stayed because of the good the church was doing, or merely hate to leave family and friends. The hope is that God is able to change hearts and minds -- and the prayer should be that.The Jewish people were rescued from the Holocaust by the help of Americans, but African-Americans were enslaved in America. Obama is losing votes not because of Rev Wright (just an excuse) but because he is Black. What needs to be fought here in America is the hatred and it is quite apparent that your lower class whites are the ones who continue to spread this. Obama is a fine man, well worthy of the office of president and let it be known that God is angry with those who are ill-treating him. He said that when you do it to them, you are also doing it to Him. Our land will not be healed until we turn from our wicked ways---THEN, and only then will WE WILL HEAR from Heaven and God will heal our land. I didn't say it God did. God Bless America, Obama and those who are spewing hate for a person who just might be able to receive the Blessings of God and with our help heal America of its bias and hate.

Posted by: dthompson | April 29, 2008 5:12 PM

Having myself attended a large black church with a membership of over 5,000, I can honestly say that in the five plus years that I attended, I no more "knew" my pastor in year five than I did on day one. These are not intimate, personal relationships as the media would like us to believe.

In fact, even after I worked for the pastor as his executive assistant, it became even more apparent to me that even those in his "close circle" didn't really know him. Pastors, especially those that oversee large congregations, are very guarded people. Don't let the outgoing and "center stage" personality fool you. That part gets turned off and on very easily.

If my experience is the norm (and I think for large churches it is), just because Obama went there for 20 years, was married by him, and took some pictures with him says no more about how well he knew Pastor Wright than my having worked for my pastor says I knew about him. My pastor officiated hundreds of wedding ceremonies for people he barely knew attended his church. People are making more of Obama's relationship with Wright than I'm sure was actually there.

Posted by: Ready to Move on | April 29, 2008 5:12 PM

god save us from goverment health services

Posted by: marixt | April 29, 2008 5:12 PM

have you ever heard of trial by fire?

this is what is being given to Barak Obama, and he is performing spendidly... he is taking the heat like a REAL president would be expected to.

hillary on the other hand, in trying to show she was competent to be president, made up some fictitious story about being shot at by snipers at an airport and having to run for cover... which was later COMPLETELY discredited by news footage of the actual event.

who do you want as president?

someone that can handle pressure?

or some schizoid bimbo...

Posted by: BOB | April 29, 2008 5:12 PM

"I was always against the Iraq war."

vs.

"The person that I saw yesterday was not the person that I had come to know over 20 years."

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 5:12 PM

Isn't this like some tragic fairytale for Obama (specifically the Little Mermaid). Instead he has to sell his soul and sacrifice all of his dear relationships for the pursuit of power. If he fails (because he can't handle the ploys of sea witches like in the Disney version), he vanishes into sea foam. This is so tragic. Let this be a lesson for all those who pursue power. So tragic.

Posted by: dcp | April 29, 2008 5:11 PM

It is quiet obvious that Obama's move to exorcize Wright from his campaign is a stab in the heart. Not to Wright but to the Hillary Clinton hillbettes. They thought that he would stay entangled with the pastor from hell till June but their dreams were not to come true. Now he's free of the jumping maniac and can get on the road and onto the issues. He should win. He deserves to win.

Posted by: ODETTE2 | April 29, 2008 5:11 PM

Its time for Al Gore!

Posted by: Idahotreasures | April 29, 2008 5:11 PM


It is all theater, a play, fiction. Methinks Obama protest too much. They are both in cahoots with each other. They both share the same agenda.

Please notice, Obama never denied he was a marxist.

Posted by: alance | April 29, 2008 5:10 PM

or even BETTER JAKE

IMPEACH ME

troll

Posted by: troll | April 29, 2008 5:10 PM

Perhaps all the congregants of Obama's church really agree with the hate-speech from the pulpit or otherwise wouldn't the gossip about a sermon that Obama "missed" not reached his ears? Obama said originally that he never heard Wright's nasty comments - well, the church sold the reverand's sermons on videos. I would have thought he would have done some investigating way before now.

Posted by: LH | April 29, 2008 5:09 PM

Rush OXYCONTIN Limbaugh.

There. His middle name in all caps.

Posted by: Tom | April 29, 2008 5:09 PM

The photograph surfaced by the New York Times showing Bill Clinton and Jeremiah Wright shaking hands, and the artifacts of their correspondence, should serve to remind us that we do not want to return to the dark years of McCarthyism and guilt by association...if for no other reason than to avert the open war politicians would thereby declare upon themselves as perpetual hand-shakers vulnerable to being caught in the eye of the camera.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:09 PM

How can there be so much hate in America (if this blog is any representation)?

It's rare that as a society we are given the opportunity to examine our differences, learn from one another and for once work together to evolve and become something that is greater than any of us as individuals. Our present leader has all but stated "Damn Americans" individually to most of us by refusing to listen or consider any view that differs from his own.

Obama is offering to drive the bus, but the course in his administration will be chartered by the people.

Why can't we finally put racist and divisive views in the past and take a positive role in shaping the future. All of the comments about a person's name, race, or religion are unbelievable in this day and age. I feel like I've been transported back in time. Let's move forward America. Together.

Posted by: DonJulio | April 29, 2008 5:09 PM

"IF YOU ARE A DECENT, PATRIOTIC AMERICAN YOU WOULD VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON."

No, I think decent patriotic Americans would be for a candidate who doesn't start idiotic wars and then subsequently fail to learn any lessons from her 'experience' and continue beating drums of war regarding another country (Iran, obliteration, ring any bells?)

Also I believe a decent, patriotic American wouldn't use all upper-case letters.

Posted by: epthorn | April 29, 2008 5:08 PM

well pardOOOOON me

Posted by: TROLL | April 29, 2008 5:08 PM

To address those that think this is a ploy dreamed up by Obama and his idiot pastor: NO WAY. Wright is an out and out egomaniac. He is right no matter what (in his mind) Like I said before, Wright believes he "made" Obama. "No 1/2 breed pumk from Hawaii is going to upstage me!!" Thats what Wright thinks about the issue. The "Staged breakup" is just one more piece of crud the Obama junkies are telling themselves to gain some kind of comfort while the Messiah goes down in flames. Love it!

Posted by: jereamiah | April 29, 2008 5:07 PM

It is amusing how people can forget that you can be great friends with someone you don't agree with. My best friend is a radical catholic, neo-conservative. My fiancee is a extremely liberal. there is no reason for me to dislike either of them based on their political views, nor do I want to toss either under the bus just because I disagree with one of them (my best friend) on about everything. 1st Ammendment, my friends. Barrack Obama has the same right to be friends with anyone. If Rev. Wright is his friend, that is fine. At some point you have to judge Obama and ask has he ever shown himself with HIS actions to believe the same a Wright. The answer is a resounding no. End of Discussion.

Posted by: wmviolinist1 | April 29, 2008 5:07 PM

Well done, Senator Obama. You are somehow able to handle difficult situations intelligently and forcefully without losing your cool. Very impressive.

Posted by: Paul in Michigan | April 29, 2008 5:06 PM

Where are the corporate media on McLame's religious advisers Hagee and Parsley??

They are both bigoted whackos who want McLame to push the button so we can all go to Jeeebus.

They're much worse than Wright.

But IOKIYAR. Double standard rides again.

Posted by: Tom3 | April 29, 2008 5:06 PM

You forgot to put Rush Limbaugh's MIDDLE name in all caps.

Troll.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 5:06 PM

That's right, jk5432, my greatest sin today is REPEATEDLY quoting the man's own words.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 5:05 PM

Face it, libs: Wright KILLS Obama in the general. He's the perfect excuse to vote for the white guy.

And if you superdelegates see this and replace Obama w/ Hillary, America will riot like it's 1968.

Game over. Wright has already given McCain the White House.

Posted by: Truth Hurts | April 29, 2008 5:05 PM

GOOD THING HILLARY

THREW MOVE.ON AND ALL HER RADICAL LIBERALS

FRIENDS OFF THE BUS

Posted by: 60s radical and liberals | April 29, 2008 5:05 PM

Funny, he wasn't outraged during all the sermans in his church? How many more sermans were given with similar messages don't we know about? Give me a break. Obama is as phony as the rest of them. If he ever thought he walked on water, it's obvious now his shoes grew lead weights. If he were that good of a politician (AKA liar) Clinton would have had to drop out of the race a long time ago. Like Clinton or not, she is a strong opponent and would be an equally strong leader. At least she doesn't whine in the face of mud slinging, oh yeah and she has better plans laid out for healthcare among other things.

Posted by: Dani | April 29, 2008 5:04 PM

"Boy, hatred and divisiveness certainly are alive ans well in these comments. Senator Obama has a much more optimistic opinion of the American people than what I am seeing here!"

Haven't you figured it out by now. All these comments come from one or two neocons using different names, and arguments.."I am a white woman..blah..", "I used to be for Obama..blah.."

You Obama supporters would do better to go to his web-site and make calls...these comment blogs are a waste of time... it's like babbling in your sleep...(no one is listening)

Posted by: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz | April 29, 2008 5:04 PM

I'm a Hilary supporter, but I have to say that Obama did the right thing today. Good for him.

Posted by: Tristan Yates | April 29, 2008 5:03 PM

WE dont NEED NO EDUCATED PRESIDENT

Posted by: white man | April 29, 2008 5:03 PM

Citizen AJ:

No, "we all" don't know that. Any reasonable person has to question the judgment of someone who just today says:
"The person that I saw yesterday was not the person that I had come to know over 20 years."

Sorry if you think it's "hateful", or "racist", or any other ad hominem you can think of, to simply quote the man's own words.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 5:03 PM

Breaking news!!! Obama just denounced terrorists for bombing Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland.

He gave a brief statement, "After 20 years I have decided to condemn the attack against Pan Am Flight 103 as outrageous."

Way to go Obama. That's leadership we can all admire.

Posted by: John | April 29, 2008 5:03 PM

"I was always against the Iraq war."

vs.

"The person that I saw yesterday was not the person that I had come to know over 20 years."

Posted by: JakeDTroll | April 29, 2008 3:38PM and and 3:42 PM and 3:51 PM and 3:58 PM and 4:08 PM and 4:16 PM and 4:21 PM and 4:27 PM and 4:34 PM and 4:45 PM

And you claim you're not a troll, Jake???? We know you're supposedly retired, but, really, you need to get a life.

Posted by: jk5432 | April 29, 2008 5:02 PM

After reading these truly ungly racist comments on this site, I am almost ashamed to be American. White America (not all, but the racist few who deign to say these hateful things) brought blacks to this country; used the services of blacks to build this country; denied blacks equal access to anything in America; and now when a person (who could just as easily be called white as black since he is an amalgam of the two races) wants to unite the country and the races he is subjected to the most vile racist utterances. If I were Senator Obama I would not now or ever run for any public office in this country. He is smart talented and has a lot to offer this nation. Since it seems as if the nation is not ready for him then I would say "****bleep to you all!

Posted by: Jimmy | April 29, 2008 5:02 PM

they wishing now that they had locked Wright in the basement with mrs obama

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:02 PM

SAD TO SAY IT, BUT I WAS GOING TO VOTE FOR HIM. I REALLY DID BELEIVE IN HIS MESSAGE OF CHANGE, BUT HE HAS REALLY BAD PEOPLE AROUND HIM. GREAT JOB FOR BRINGING RACES TO THE FRONT AGAING. IM NOT RACIST IM A MALE LATINO VOTER

Posted by: EX-OBAMA | April 29, 2008 5:01 PM

It can't be those "officially connected to the Clinton Machine.

that would propose NO MONEY FOR POTHOLES TWO WEEKS AFTER MC CAIN did

TAX CUT to divert votes to CLINTON MCCAIN

Posted by: REDRUM | April 29, 2008 5:01 PM

Republicans: The tide is turning against you. Only a miracle will give you the White House in 2008.

Democrats: That Reverend Wright sure is a miracle worker.

Posted by: Fanning the Flames | April 29, 2008 5:01 PM

Sounds like some people in here are already drinking too much Brawndo. It's like a middle school playground mentality where the other guy is evil and your guy is right no matter what. Kinda sad.

Posted by: markinsa | April 29, 2008 5:01 PM

"Posted by: Pete in DC | April 29, 2008 3:22 PM

Dr. Wright can lay claim to all the degrees and education he wants but it just shows that education must be paired with common sense, judgement and analytics to be worth anything."
---------------------------------------
So, being highly educated isn't the end all and be all of life, proof positive and justification of the correctness of one's arguments in favor of Obama. But isn't that a big positive the Obama supporters have been spouting about all along: that he and his supporters tended to be the "Highly Educated?"

Clinton knows it takes more than brains to bring about change. It takes determination and willpower undaunted by long odds and long days of struggle with the very real chance of public failure dogging your every step to bring about change.

She understands and took to heart a very long time ago the words of Rudyard Kipling in his poem "IF":

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
But make allowance for their doubting too,
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,
If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it all on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breath a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings--nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much,
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And--which is more--you'll be a Man, my son!

Posted by: jmcauli1 | April 29, 2008 5:01 PM

A little too late. Now he denounces after his political career is on the line. He didn't know about Farrahkan before? None of Wright's views? Please. Wright coming out is a no winning situation for Obama. If it's true he never heard of Wright's anti American stands for 20 years one has to question Obama's awareness and judgment. . If he knew of Wrights hate speeches and denied it then it comes down to just plain lying and serious lack of character.

Posted by: Kay Lani Ray Rafko | April 29, 2008 4:59 PM

Boy, hatred and divisiveness certainly are alive ans well in these comments. Senator Obama has a much more optimistic opinion of the American people than what I am seeing here!

Posted by: ilima1 | April 29, 2008 4:59 PM

This makes me sad that the Republican hate machine has stirred up so much nastiness that so many on this board so happily spew hatred, racism and vitriol and consider it everyday political discourse. That is what makes me wonder if this immature and shortsighted country is even ready for a politician like Obama who actually gives thoughtful responses and thinks instead of reacts. I believe him when he says that these were not the things that he was hearing from his pastor all these years -- a lot of people have spoken up for that church as a place of service and hope, and so I think the Repubs are highlighting all that is damaging from Wright -- not anything said by Obama. I feel sorry for Barack -- this isn't what he is about.

I'd just like to say that people need to wake up and realize that this is another swift-boating. Learn to think critically, people. Examine the real issues, not what the media and pundits tell you to think.

Posted by: Ame | April 29, 2008 4:58 PM

Rev. Wright has been portrayed as a villian in the media. He delivered a very powerful speech to the NAACP and I saw little to no coverage on the speech he eloquently delivered.

This is just a ploy to confuse the Obama campagin and it is working.

Rev. wright is not that bad he is just different and more vocal than the other clergy who have backed a presidential candidate.

Obama discusses change but he is not embracing the change that Wright brings to the political game. Understanding that Obama had to jump the political hurdle of "religion" before any other candidate he did not clear it nor did he ever reboound from the fall. He is allowing the media machine to take him deeper into it changing his focus. Not allowing him to focus on delivering his message.

Posted by: TroubledDemocrat | April 29, 2008 4:58 PM

It is amazing that people can come on here and state that a politician will do anything to get elected while they support a "politician!" You are right, they will and Senators Clinton and McCain are no different. I feel Senator Obama tried to do a stand up thing in Philadelphia by denouncing the flamatory words of his former Pastor, JakeD, but not the man. Well, after seeing his former Pastor's true colors, he did what he had to today. So, as I continue to support Senator Obama, he continues to impress me as a man of ethics, morals and credability. Say what you will but we all know he is the BEST choice for President of these United States in THIS election.

Posted by: Citizen AJ | April 29, 2008 4:58 PM

IF YOU ARE A DECENT, PATRIOTIC AMERICAN YOU WOULD VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON.

COME ON NORTH CAROLINA!!

COME ON INDIANA!!

DO THE RIGHT THING AND CAST YOUR VOTES FOR HILLARY. BE A REAL TRUE 'HILLRAISER'.

Posted by: Ebonyflash | April 29, 2008 4:58 PM

I was undecided until I read some of these racist, hate-filled blogs. Now I'm voting for Obama for sure.

Posted by: Nanchi | April 29, 2008 4:57 PM

Wake up blue collar America! There is more hate in this collection of comments than you would see in 20 years of listening to Rev. Wright. We all have friends we love dearly but we do not share all their views on everything. If you are looking for a reason to dislike Obama I'm sure you can find it if you look hard enough but if you miss this opportunity it may be another quarter century before another like him comes along.

Posted by: Duncan from Canada | April 29, 2008 4:57 PM

Don't Speculate:

It wouldn't be anyone "officially" connected with the Obama campaign -- as a Constitutional Law Professor, he knows that conspiracy to commit murder is illegal -- it would probably just be some random nutjob like Rocky ; )

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 4:57 PM

If that is the case then let's take a look at the other two (2) candidates: Clinton - Bosnia, husband Bill, travelgate, Lincoln bedroom sleepovers; need I go on; McCain - Keating 5, flip flop on Iraq, taxes, the economy, Rev. Hagee. Posted by Jimmy
___________
Obama - Rezko, Farrakhan, Wright, Khalidi (this one has yet to break), Robert Blackwell and Killerspin (this one has yet to break), Emil Jones, "Bittergate", Ayers and Dohrn, Dreams of My Father (filled with racist comments), Auchi, Abunimah, Michele's foot in the mouth disease, flag pin, hand on heart, drug use, OK, I'm tired now.

I think the other two have a better chance.

Posted by: Just Me But, | April 29, 2008 4:57 PM

Obama has GOT TO BE PRESIDENT! The man rised to the occasion! Very..very worthy!

OOOOOOBAMA '08!! YES HE WILL!!

Posted by: Marjon | April 29, 2008 4:55 PM

OBAMA SHOULD BEAT HIM TO A PULP

BREAK HIS KNEECAPS

SLASH HIS TIRES

Posted by: ROCKY | April 29, 2008 4:54 PM

I believe Obama's sentiments which he expressed today. But I still think it's too late. This drama has caused many voters to think twice before electing a black candidate.

Posted by: dcp | April 29, 2008 4:54 PM

JakeD:

If Rev. Wright were assassinated, he would instantly become a martyr. LOL! That's just how the media works these days.

Seriously though, who would assassinate him? Not the McCain or Hillary folks--they love the guy. Not the Obama camp--conspiracy theories would abound.

I think Rev. Wright is as safe as he ever was.

Posted by: Don't Speculate about AAs if You Aren't One | April 29, 2008 4:53 PM

where is the bus? why don't we just hit the brakes if someone is under there? sheesh!

Posted by: true flies | April 29, 2008 4:53 PM

Looks like Obama's finally had enough of whitewashing Rev. Wright. Nevertheless, holy "pot calling the kettle (redacted)!" Hallelujah!

Posted by: Rev. Quincy L. Hardwicke | April 29, 2008 4:53 PM

And if you question Obama or his oh-so-obvious-political ties to Rev Wright, you are a RACIST?. Never mind that it's clear that the Rev. Wright HATES AMERICA and is a out and out RACIST!!. I don't believe that Obama actually believes Wright's garbage, Obama just went along early in his career to get the Black support in Chicago. Now, it's biting him in the a**. Love it! Obama is faar worse then a true Racist. He is a liar and a manipulator, trying to work both sides. Love it!! Obama cult followers are floundering now, trying everything they can to spin this campaign crusher every which way but loose. Awesome! I love it!! BYE BYE OBAMA! Michelle, you will NEVER see the inside of the White House! Count on it!! YAAAA!! This is a great day. Obama, his America Hating spouse, and the IDIOT REV. Wright Just handed the White House to McCain. And all of you KNOW IT!! YAAAH!!

Posted by: jereamiah | April 29, 2008 4:52 PM

The core questions still remain. Why did Obama stay in that church for 20 years? How was it possible for him to miss the "radical" sermons or even hear about them? In the beginning of his campaign, why did Obama seem so proud to say that Rev. Wright was his religious mentor? Why did Obama drop Rev. Wright like a hot potato when he was announcing his run for the presidency? Why do Michelle Obama's comments seem to reflect a Rev. Wright kind of belief? Why did Obama join the church after being warned by Rev. Wright that the church had a radical reputation?

In his 1993 memoir "Dreams from My Father," Obama recounts in vivid detail his first meeting with Wright in 1985. The pastor warned the community activist that getting involved with Trinity might turn off other black clergy because of the church's radical reputation."

Posted by: mafox1 | April 29, 2008 4:52 PM

CHAOS:

Rush Limbaugh is not inciting a riot. See the difference?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 4:52 PM

hang in their bama, and shine that hiney

Posted by: the original patented turd burner | April 29, 2008 4:52 PM

I love how the flock of sheep come out to denounce Obama whenever there is a story of him standing up for what he believes in. Then, in the endless cycle of stories where Obama is being thrown under the bus by the clearly pro-corporate anti power to the people movement that is bent on taking Obama out, his supporters RIGHTLY cry FOUL!

For all of the sheep out there, please do an ounce of research--those of you who either support HIllary or McSame. Obama has a RECORD. One that is NOT consistent with Wright's moronic statements. One that is LONGER than Hillary's self proclaimed (hijacked) claims to "experience" that she manipulates you with.

The media has been incredibly irresponsible throughout this campaign and it only goes to show why Americans are so drop dead tired of this countries crap. It's only April and we have already entered the s*** storm of the race.

Please for the sake of yourselves and the rest of us: either get an education or learn how to formulate your own opinion. "Political pundits" shouldn't be doing it FOR YOU!

Posted by: Jman | April 29, 2008 4:52 PM

"User reviews and comments that contain...other inapporpriate comments of material will be removed from the site."

Good Lord, WashPo, will you moderate these comments and keep the racist filth off of them? Amazed is right - the self-absorbed morons in this country do deserve the crap they elect, but unfortunately we have to deal with it, as there are more of them than there are of reasonable, thinking people in the US.

I'm sorry Obama had to drop Wright, but after Wright's performance this weekend Obama really had no choice. You could see how the decision really bothered him; I believe him when he says that he saw a different man than he had seen all the years he had known him. Look, I knew my priest for years, he married me and officiated my confirmation, but I'll never say that I knew his political beliefs or anything even remotely that personal about him. I highly doubt Obama paid that much attention to Wright outside of church, and for all he knew, Wright was making statements like this all over the place in the pre-wired age. It's sad, but to claim somehow that Obama is guilty by association is just as ridiculous as claiming Hillary must believe in adultery because she's still with Bill. Come on, people.

I hope he can weather the storm. He still has my vote May 6 here in Indiana.

Posted by: mazarin | April 29, 2008 4:52 PM

It seems that since the Yahoo boards have closed under the weight of american hate this place now catches the posts of the pimple faced jack offs, closeted cowardly bigots, faceless internet trolls and cousin humpers who post in CAPS or bold face over and over again their empty posts drooling with misspellings and inbreeding.

I would tell my fellow americans how disappointed I am but I learned who you fools really were when half of you thought standing together and slipper-slapping while chanting "Flip-flop, Flip-flop was political discourse while the other half stood bovine faced in fear of being called either anti-patriotic or unchristian for daring to oppose a war planned in the 90's by people in a position to assure that their dull tool would be placed to make them all a ton of money in a war they were in a position to start.

These lying polluting scumbags have stolen your government by dividing you along asinine tribal lines and continuing to set you against each other over issues that aren't issues so that their tools won't be pinned down on the real issues.

Red State, Blue State
Gay Marriage (that's been a hot issue these last 4 years no?)

I wish I could line you all up and slap you silly. I'll just have to wait for the blood in the street your ignorance guarantees.

Posted by: You are mostly fools | April 29, 2008 4:52 PM

Hi, My name is Barack Obama, I strongly denounce my mentor of 20 long years and the man I consider my spiritual adviser of 20 long years, Reverend Wright..... I make the right choices.... because I know what I am doing..... oh and it's not my fault, Hillary is a racist too........ Reverend Wright was going to be my running mate, I guess I will just choose Louis Farrakhan now instead for VP....... GD America???

VOTE FOR HILLARY NOW BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!!

Posted by: Hillary All the Way!!! | April 29, 2008 4:52 PM

NATION OF ISLAM FOR MCCAIN CLINTO

AND OBAMA SWIFT BOATERS VOLUNTEERED

Posted by: NATION OF ISLAM | April 29, 2008 4:52 PM

This is terrible...Wright has sold out to the Clintons.

Posted by: Jim, Los Angeles CA | April 29, 2008 4:52 PM

I hope SOMEONE is offering Rev. Wright armed bodyguard protection.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 4:51 PM

COUNTDOWN TO VICTORY
296 TO 2024 OBAMA
433 TO 2024 CLINTON

408 ELECTED 295 SUPERS REMAINING

Posted by: DELGATE MATH | April 29, 2008 4:50 PM

i know everything there is to know about black people

Posted by: doo doo housing | April 29, 2008 4:49 PM

Thankfully, Obama denounced Wright's comments today or you could just put a fork in him for November. This worked out so that by doing this now as opposed to in Philly, he DOESN'T look like all he cares about is politics. Wright did him a favor. The big picture still is he still will be better for this country than McCain even with any questions about why he belonged to that church, etc. Better that than more tax cuts during war, war in Iran, and everything else McCain will do. Grow up, people.

Posted by: Missy | April 29, 2008 4:49 PM

Thanks Obama...I got your message:

"I need your help before Wednesday's financial reporting deadline.

As always, the media pundits and Washington insiders will scrutinize these reports. And your support is crucial to our efforts in North Carolina and Indiana, where we could close out this race in the coming week.

But there's a lot more to this movement than money.

In every corner of this country, we're organizing communities, helping register voters, and bringing people back into the political process.

And unlike Senator Clinton and Senator McCain, we're doing all this without taking any money from Washington lobbyists or special interest PACs.

Instead, we put our trust in ordinary people like you. And nearly 1,500,000 supporters have stepped up to own a piece of this campaign.

Right now, a fellow supporter -- someone who hasn't taken the next step and made a donation -- is reading a message similar to this one.

They're reading that if they give today, their donation will be matched by a previous donor like you. That another ordinary person -- not a Washington lobbyist -- is willing to double the impact of their first gift if they choose to own a piece of this campaign.

You have the opportunity to bring someone new into this movement, and you can even choose to exchange a note with them about why you are matching their donation."

You can bet your bottom dollar that as soon as I get home, I am doubling my last donation and encouraging someone else to match it.

I am sick of this dirt slinging and character assasinations.

NO to HILLARY, NO to McCain....

BARRACK OBAMA in '08!!!

Posted by: ObamaTheMan | April 29, 2008 4:49 PM

where is the hair on a chocolate eclair?
nowhere, mol frer
case closed

Posted by: spankin hank | April 29, 2008 4:48 PM

O you treacheries crawling spider with the mouth of a snake media what are you afraid of? A fair fight? Someone who will not kowtow to your every whim? A little fairness to the Palestinians? I am sure that you and your criminal gang of thugs are brain storming more fault finding trouble for any body that threatens your Israeli flag!

Posted by: Isaacnewton | April 29, 2008 4:47 PM

who said you can't shave yoass? if it's shiney, it must be mamabama's hiney

Posted by: hemmoroid removal training | April 29, 2008 4:47 PM

I TRUST YOU PRESIDENT BUSH WITH MY VOTE FOR WAR

HILLARY c

Posted by: Hi$$ary Clinton | April 29, 2008 4:46 PM

as hitler's underwear i approve this message and support his incinerated testicles

Posted by: hitler's underwear | April 29, 2008 4:45 PM

jAKE

IF RUSH CAN GET AWAY WITH

I CAN REPEAT IT

Posted by: CHAOS | April 29, 2008 4:45 PM

"I was always against the Iraq war."

vs.

"The person that I saw yesterday was not the person that I had come to know over 20 years."

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 4:45 PM

Frankly speaking, I don't think Wright has all of his marbles. He needs to be put in a straight jacket.

Posted by: truth1 | April 29, 2008 4:44 PM

where is the queen of all black? better show me thatass!

Posted by: buttfacials hourly rates | April 29, 2008 4:44 PM

CNN, will you please report on the largest election fraud case in U.S. History... Paul V. Clinton. Never before has a candidate been caught on tape commiting numerous felonies, which could imprison here for up to 5 years in federal prison. Please I implore anyone curious to click on the link. Your cable media is failing you in the most absurd way imaginable. How the Clintons have kept this bomb shell out of the media is ever more disconcerting to me. She may be indicted before NOVEMBER!!!!!


http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=7007109937779036019

Posted by: Jon | April 29, 2008 4:44 PM

People yelling, "racist!" are taking cheap shots that do nothing but inflame passions and end all rational discussion. These people are just like Hitler.

Posted by: Chris | April 29, 2008 4:43 PM

MidWstAmerican"

I too would be curious about the appeal of the Republican party among blacks. I do like their "self reliance" message, but the other stuff gets me. Corporate welfare, warmongering, and rampant government spending are major turnoffs to me. Didn't the Republican party used to be the champion of "small" government? LOL.

I am too young to remember Reagan, but from what I've read, I think I would have liked him. I might have been a Reagan democrat during those times.

Posted by: Don't Speculate about AAs if You Aren't One | April 29, 2008 4:43 PM

Obama's comments today are too late. In his speech today, he indicated that he found Wright's comments yesterday (for example, regarding AIDS) as outrageous and appalling. What were they over a month ago when WE ALL heard them in the famous Wright video "snippets" that Obama referred to as a distraction? For Obama today to call Wright's comments outrageous, when he refused to condemn them over a month ago, simply demonstrates Obama's dishonesty. His speech today was politically expedient and we are still left with all of the Obama character questions regarding his 20 year association with Wright ... his association with Ayers ... his friendship and financial dealings with Rezko ... and whoever will be uncovered next.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 4:43 PM

CHAOS:

Inciting a riot is a crime.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 4:43 PM

i am a proud racist but my sheet is pisststained so i mostly stay at home. understood?

Posted by: turds freeze dried great rates | April 29, 2008 4:43 PM

OBAMA WANTS TO HAVE MR WRIGHT AS HIS VP

Posted by: anonymous | April 29, 2008 4:42 PM

Damn, There are a lot of racists here.

Posted by: | April 29, 2008 4:29 PM


thats what they get for lying about Bill Clinton saying rasist things...and they knew better...Bill Clinton has never said anything rasist...that was done so the black Clinton supporters would throw him under the bus......must have worked...92 percent in pa...the only trouble is that it backfired on them...now live with it

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 4:42 PM

RON: You're a loser.

Posted by: kenny | April 29, 2008 4:42 PM

I knew it ..once you denounced Rev. Wright..the naysayers were going to say Oh he is just saying that because he is running for President...can't win with these people so just let them go to the naysayers grave yard... where tortured souls who live in a world of doubt and confusion will spend eternity together...

Posted by: sabrinag | April 29, 2008 4:42 PM


COME ON OBAMA

YOU LITTLE PUNK

MY EGO IS BIGGER THAN YOURS

REV WRONG

Posted by: REV WRONG | April 29, 2008 4:42 PM

dylan's comments border on profane and are clearly racist. I think those comments should be removed.

Posted by: nesst88 | April 29, 2008 4:41 PM

you people are amazing! obama i support you before during and after. this changes nothing for me either. you still have my vote.

you tried to spare rev wright but he tried to unseat you out of greed. soon, you will send hrc and all of her republican machine to bed also.

you cant please everyone. if they hate you they will continue to hate you no matter what you do! i feel the same way about some other candidates...no hard feelings

Posted by: gata | April 29, 2008 4:41 PM

Can we now focus on the issues?

The Al Sharptons, Andrew Youngs, and Rev. Wrights of the world have been called out for their slave-mentality by Obama straight up and forcefully -as any other American would do.

Obama calls them as they are - totally unamerican!

Vote Obama for president!

Posted by: JBE | April 29, 2008 4:41 PM

bamatrauma
wrightblight
mamajama
white flight
nice and tight
good luck with light
yoass needs cleanin
better call queenie beanin

Posted by: assshavingservice appointments only | April 29, 2008 4:41 PM

All of you people who want to paint Obama with the same race colored brush as Rev. Wright can now come out of the woodworks and take off your white sheets. Wright - Obama! Only one of these men is running for President and it isn't Wright. Since when is someone guilty by association? If that is the case then let's take a look at the other two (2) candidates: Clinton - Bosnia, husband Bill, travelgate, Lincoln bedroom sleepovers; need I go on; McCain - Keating 5, flip flop on Iraq, taxes, the economy, Rev. Hagee. So if people can't find it in themselves to cast a vote for Obama because he is considered to be a "black" man then you now have your excuse. It would have been easier, however, and I could respect such a person if he/she were to be honest with themselves and admit their bias. But to nit pick on every little thing that Obama does is so disingenuous and unfair. Be a true strong open racist if you like, but don't be an undercover racist.

Posted by: Jimmy | April 29, 2008 4:41 PM

I was going to ask where all the juvenile comments came from, but I realized it's 4:30 and school probably just let out.

This still doesn't explain why JakeD keeps reposting the same thing over and over again, but it does explain the other garbage.

Posted by: Mommy | April 29, 2008 4:41 PM

"So the Press Club invites Wright to speak ... maybe thinking they were doing Obama a favor and the "Reverend" would somehow explain away his hate-mongering, after all, the Press Club probably"


I think they invited him to get exactly what they hoped for. And if there was no story they would have created one.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 4:40 PM

Some people will never vote for Obama because he's black. It doesn't matter to them that he's half white too. Yet they are usually the first to point fingers at Rev. Wright for being racist.
There many good people white and black and Hispanics who support Obama and they can all take comfort in the eventual victory of goog over evil.

Posted by: Justin | April 29, 2008 4:40 PM

OBAMA WAS ASLEEP FOR 20 YEARS JUST WOKE UP FROM HIS SLUMBER. OBAMA DISHONEST, CALCULATING AND LACKS JUDGEMENT, A TYPICAL POLITICIAN. BECAUSE POLLS ARE TANKING, NOW FOR 2O YEARS HE SUBJECTED HIS CHILDREN TO HIS PASTOR'S RACISTS AND DIVISIVE TIRADE, CALLED HIM "OLD UNCLE", GAVE A SPEECH ON "RACE" INSTEAD OF ADDRESSING "HATRED" ANE NOW "BINGO" TRIES TO DISTANCE HIMSELF FROM WRIGHT_--oopeeeee -

Posted by: UTWO | April 29, 2008 4:40 PM

VOTE FOR HILLARY

BILL PROMISES TO LEGALIZE COLUMBIAN GOLD

Posted by: Columbian Connection | April 29, 2008 4:39 PM

The level of ignorance and bigotry exhibited by the comments
that have been submitted is staggering. It's no small wonder
we have ended up with a complete fraud for a president the last 8
years. Yes I know God , guns, and guts made America great.

Unfortunately we will have to buy those guns from China now,
which God I don't know, but it seems there are actually people
with different belief systems than ours, and as far as guts, the completely self absorbed morons who vote in this country are deserving of the cowards they elect.

Obama is a brilliant man caught in the insignificant arguments
of idiots.

Posted by: Amazed | April 29, 2008 4:39 PM

KingofAllWhites: F*ckin A.

Posted by: yeah | April 29, 2008 4:39 PM

please join me in a moment of silence

Posted by: bowelmovementsrus | April 29, 2008 4:38 PM

P Diddy:

Yes, thanks for the response. Let me know when you decide to run, so I can send you a donation ; )

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 4:38 PM

Obama is every bit as credible as "Joe Isuzu"

If Obama shakes your hand, don't forget to make sure you still have your watch and wedding ring afterwards.

Posted by: Obama is Joe Isuzu | April 29, 2008 4:38 PM

This man is right, your government is corrupt and rips the simple American and gives it to the rich. This government gave your country the ugly name The United States of Liemerica. This man is right, your president lies to you about 9/11. Ask the bast_ard what happened with building 7, why did it collapse. Yes, explosives only to be found in Israel. The mossad has had a fat hand in it.

Posted by: jwh | April 29, 2008 4:38 PM

obama should have told you to kiss his A$$ because most of you are only using this as an excuse,you were no supporters nor were you going to vote for him. you really can kiss my A$$ since senator obama is too nice to tell you.

Posted by: RON | April 29, 2008 4:38 PM

dems need colinic. the candidate with the shiny hiney wins

Posted by: tucksmedicatedwipes | April 29, 2008 4:37 PM

It's amazing how all the Republican "Bush can do no wrong" morons are coming out to throw their two cents in. It must suck to be so judgmental about everything and yet be so incredibly wrong all the time.

Posted by: markinsa | April 29, 2008 4:37 PM

Newsflash for Obamafools:

This article is about Obama throwing Rev Wright under the bus after 20 years! Attacking Clinton just makes you look like total retards. It will not make Obama's troubles go away.

You should now concentrate on making plans to attend his concession speech in Chicago. Start saving your latte money now!

Posted by: Obama Who? | April 29, 2008 4:37 PM

You people scare me. If you don't want to vote for Obama, then don't. There's no need to obsess over his middle name or the fact that you find his wife unattractive. Neither of those things has anything to do with his ability to be president.

Wright is a nut. That much is clear. Most people have friends or family in their lives - close ones even - with whose ideology they disagree. Listen to what Obama says, decide if you agree with how he wants to run the country, and vote accordingly. Name calling and poor grammar have no place in the matter.

Posted by: Lindsay | April 29, 2008 4:37 PM

I love this "America-hater" stuff.

It's the America LOVERS I don't trust...the Repuke idiots who think their country, and their Chimp-in-Chief, can do NO wrong.

They look the other way while we bomb civilians, torture innocent people, run a gulag, destroy the Constitution, wreck the economy and the environment.

Yeah, they love America alright...they're loving her to DEATH.

Posted by: Tom3 | April 29, 2008 4:36 PM

Don't be fooled by the media shennigans! Obama had to denounce Rev. Wright's comments. However, Rev. Wright is Rev. Wright and Obama is Obama. Each man has his own thoughts and ideas.

The mainstream media knows that Obama has an 80% chance of winning the nomination and a 55% chance of winning the Presidency.

For the media to pursue this story is only to drag out the Hillary vs Obama primary matchup for ratings.

The media is vetting the front-runner Obama on the Wright issue because that is his only archilles' heel. With all the Wright hoopla, the media has pretty much ignored the story about Hillary's former pastor being accused of child molestation.

Now that Obama has "denounced" Rev. Wright what else can the media invent to distract us on!

Posted by: AJ in IL | April 29, 2008 4:35 PM


WONT YOU ALL COME TO DENVER TO FIGHT

WE CAN FIGHT THE WORLD

WE CAN FIGHT THE WORLD


SHOW YOUR SUPPORT FOR OPERATION CHAOS

RIOT IN DENVER

Posted by: CHAOS | April 29, 2008 4:35 PM

i am easily distracted and lack basic intelligence but that doesn't mean i can't keep myass clean. gitchoass out my crib

Posted by: don'tforgettheasscream | April 29, 2008 4:35 PM

"We have never known what Obama truly stands for since he does not have a significant voting record."

Nonsense. Sounds like you're regurgitating what you've read online vs. actually doing research in either IL or Congressional records.

"He mostly chose to vote Present in Illinois."

Either you don't know what voting "present" means in IL legislature or you're deliberately trying to mislead readers. Which? It's a common political strategy when you (i) have a conflict of interest and prefer not to vote yes or no; (ii) a way to signal your on-the-record objections to some part of a bill even if you are fine with the rest; (iii) signal concerns about the legislation.

Posted by: Mary | April 29, 2008 4:35 PM

As noted earlier, the bad Reverend has helped his old buddy Obama out here, giving him a clean break, a rather public one.

And, as a bonus, Obama has been under such fire of late that his team has been tempered for battle, a team that just grew larger again, because he looked persecuted. And nothing, nothing on earth, galvanizes an organization like a good persecution.

Obama 55%
McCain 43%

Posted by: Rob L. | April 29, 2008 4:35 PM

"I was always against the Iraq war."

vs.

"The person that I saw yesterday was not the person that I had come to know over 20 years."

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 4:34 PM

When someone starts a sentence with "isn't it interesting that.." they usually mean "there's a conspiracy here and nobody will talk about it!" Sorry folks, no conspiracy here but I do want to make an interesting observation and get other folks' take on it.

Y'all notice that, on any article about the race for the Dem Presidential nomination, the majority of posted comments (and certainly the most emotional) come from the far fringe of the right wing...people that would never ever even consider the possibility of perhaps voting for a Dem? It would seem they might more profitably spend their time trying to come up with a reason to vote for the Republican, despite their distaste for McCain's historical positions on immigration, campaign finance, the religious right, cooperation with the "Liberal Enemy," and taxes equal to spending (of course he's trying to repudiate those, especially the last, but we all understand why he has to).

Overall, I'm not entirely dissatisfied with what's happened so far. The Rs managed to nominate the only one of their candidates who stood a chance, and I like having the option. In fact, could see myself voting for any of the three survivors.

Position on free trade pushes me to McCain, but that's offset by analysis of each candidate's fiscal plans showing McCain's promotes the largest amount of deficit spending (my major national domestic issues are Fiscal Responsibility, Civil Liberties, Free Trade, and Healthcare).

September and October are going to be interesting. It's almost certain that Obama will be the D nominee, notwithstanding the irrelevancy of the last two and the next two months (yes, the complete irrelevancy of Wright-Bosnia-bitter)...can we just fast-forward please?).

Most likely November outcome is a D win, narrow if it's Clinton (because she has a cap on support), wider if it's Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 4:34 PM

I am an African American from the Midwest and my family has been staunch democrats for as long as I have been alive. They have encouraged myself and my siblings to be loyal to the party as well. One of my siblings, a first gulf war veteran, is a staunch Republican now (go figure), however, after this dirty political maneuver, I don't think I have the heart to support Hillary Clinton. I'll just stay at home, or, perhaps, have a conversation with my brother and see what he sees that I can't see in the Republican party.

The Democrats look and feel "dirty" right now. I mean in the muck and dirt swine dirty. I used to think that about Republicans, however, I think the Democrats are assuming that role.

They need to clean it up, and soon, or this is one African American that will put my faith in God and sit this election out.

Posted by: MidWstAmerican | April 29, 2008 4:34 PM

At least the priests didn't molest the alter boys in front of the congregation.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 4:34 PM

i have found that a little soap and water goes a long way, and a regular change of drawers. america it is truly a time for a change. let us all change our drawers in solidarity. bamamama mamabama. now getchoass out my crib!

Posted by: testicules | April 29, 2008 4:34 PM

I stand by Barack Obama and his plan to help this country. His ASSOCIATION WITH WRIGHT IS NOT WHO HE IS OR WHAT HE BELIEVES and I, like many other americans, are too intelligent to be distracted by this issue of Rev. Wright that has already been settled. Republicans have nothing else to use against Obama except this lame guilt by association argument. From some of the statments read here I think it wouldnt matter what Obama did they wouldn't vote for him for one reason and that is sad.

Posted by: Pat | April 29, 2008 4:33 PM

>>> "How can this not cause you to question Obama's judgment, not even just a little?"

Simple. I go to a church with a preacher who is constantly harping about the evil of gay marriage, gays, etc. And my sister is a lesbian.

I go to the church because it's part of my neighborhood, I can commune with people I see every day on the street and in bars and in coffee shops, and because we feed and clothe the homeless every day of the week, not just Thanksgiving and Christmas when the rest of the repentant souls come out. The church does good work, most of the people there agree with me about gay and lesbian rights, and the ones who don't I tend to politely avoid.

Like many people, my preacher does not speak for me. I have told him my sister's story many times, and I basically look upon him as more than a little bit wacko.

And, yes, I intend to run for office some day and have no problems answering the question of my association with this "wacko". My record in standing for gay and lesbian rights, protesting stupid decisions by our local wacko Pastor (Ken Hutcherson), and confronting multi-billion dollar CEOs as to their stance on gay and lesbian rights is abundantly clear.

Clear?

Posted by: P Diddy | April 29, 2008 4:33 PM

ITS HAPPENING

WHITE ON WHITE VIOLENCE PLANNED BY

RUSH LIMBO IN DENVER

Posted by: CHAOS | April 29, 2008 4:33 PM

Elizabeth:

Too little, too late.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 4:32 PM

we are seeing RACISM at it's BEST.

Posted by: ron | April 29, 2008 4:31 PM

I am so amazed at the hatred in these comments. Obama seems to me to be an honest person trying to correct the collision course with destruction this country is on - but so many of you have made up your minds without listening to the evidence - you're too busy waiting for the news media to tell you what to think. You cynics will get exactly what you deserve - politicians who pander (McCain) or who will say and do anything to get elected (Clinton). The American people seem to be of the WWF mindset and will fall for anything. George W - 8 years of lies, all stemming from a stolen election. In addition, your operation CHAOS - is this what we want our country to be? I thought the election should be about reasonable people having reasonable disagreements about policy and having the best man or woman win. We've degraded the process into a cat fight and the country is poorer for it. I hope your children and grandchildren can figure it out because it is too late for most of you.

Posted by: incredulous1 | April 29, 2008 4:31 PM

As noted earlier, the bad Reverend has helped his old buddy Obama out here, giving him a clean break, a rather public one.

And, as a bonus, Obama has been under such fire of late that his team has been tempered for battle, a team that just grew larger again, because he looked persecuted. And nothing, nothing on earth, galvanizes an organization like a good persecution.

Obama 55%
McCain 43%

Posted by: Rob L. | April 29, 2008 4:31 PM

Just for a second, lets step back and analyze the trends of anti- Obama discourse here. I would say there are 2 trends that I find pretty disturbing: 1)The overt racism. 2)The repeated emphasis on Barack's middle name. Seriously, are we as a country showing our true colors here or is a handful of bigots commenting? Someone please tell me because my faith in humanity is being shaken.

Posted by: Sam_E | April 29, 2008 4:31 PM

people, let's check our shorts and remember that we all move our bowels in the same manner, nice and slow on the toilet bowl and pray to jesus for strength and to ease yoass. amen!

Posted by: trunkbuttsurgery | April 29, 2008 4:31 PM

Give me a break! The time for outrage was seven years ago before you named your book after him and had your kids baptized there. Wright didn't become crazy overnight Obama is showing he will say anything to get elected.

Posted by: mountain man | April 29, 2008 4:31 PM

quote: "If my priest ever spoke about blacks and the US government like Wright does, my priest would NOT have a job!!!"'

Oh good grief, think on the priests that got away with molesting children and then think on what you just posted.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 4:30 PM

Obama was for Rev. Wright, before he was against him.

Posted by: Obama was for Rev. Wright before he was against him | April 29, 2008 4:30 PM

Hi Dems Da Breaks:

We'll have to agree to disagree. I think it's obvious Obama's candidacy inspires passion. You either passionately love him, passionately hate him, or just don't know enough about him yet to make up your mind. But once you do, you fall into one of the other two categories.

I do think that, if HRC becomes the nominee, it will be through "shennanigans", so to speak. Or at least that's how it will be perceived in the AA community, among others.

If he fails to become the nominee through machinations of the DNC, it will expose a deep racial divide in this country that most people didn't know existed. Or didn't want to believe still existed in these times.

I'm talking riots in Denver. With a heckuva lot of white people mixed in with the blacks. It will make 1968 look like a kumbaya sing-a-long.

Mark my words.

Posted by: Don't Speculate about AAs if You Aren't One | April 29, 2008 4:30 PM

MR. OBAMA AINT SEEN NOTHING YET
REV WRONG

ITS WAR

Posted by: SWIFT BOAT TOUR | April 29, 2008 4:30 PM

hey me2, in your faith do you pray for the priests to stop chasing the altar boys???

Do you pray your archdiocese doesn't go bankrupt from the sex abuse lawsuits???

People who live in stained-glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Posted by: Tom3 | April 29, 2008 4:30 PM

Barak hang in there you can't take everyone with you on your way to the top. This to will pass as my mother would say ..Rev Wright seems to be a bitter man we all are proud of you Barak for your stand against his words

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 4:30 PM

Obama and Rev Wright are two different people. Obama has allowed him to be flawed and he need not agree with everything he says in order to receive communion or worship in his church. Many Catholics disagree profoundly with many of the stances of the church. Obama cannot stop this man on his steady slide into obscurity. I believe Obama spent all those years in his church listening to mostly (99%) of his sermons being about love, giving back to the community, black pride in terms of elevating the goals and expectations of the black community, outreach programs, fighting HIV AIDS, only to now watch in horror as this man digs a deeper hole for himself. Obama's strong condemnation of the Reverand's remarks during his press conference on 4/29 should leave no doubt that Obama has now had enough and that...
"I'm outraged by the comments that were made and saddened by the spectacle. The person that I saw yesterday was not the person I met 20 years ago. His comments were not only divisive and destructive, but they end up giving comfort to those who prey on hate. I believe they do not accurately portray the perspective of the black church. They certainly don't portray mine. If he considers this political posturing, then he doesn't know me very well. And I don't know him well either." AIDS conspiracy: "Ridiculous position." Farrakhan support and analogy of Marines/terrorism: "They offend me. They rightly offend all Americans. They should be denounced. And that's what I'm doing clearly and unequivocally here today."

I believe that Obama had probably heard some remarks considered controversial in the pulpit before (Its almost impossible not to in a passionate black church) but I do not believe Obama heard the remarks so bandied about in recent times until very recently. In his controversial sermons of the past many of his points were valid, the construction of his theories was sound in terms of the pieces of information he used (Mostly I.e.: OPV AIDS hypothesis, Tuskegee Experiment etc.) but poor were his conclusions and offensive they were to some, especially given that most Americans have never heard of Tuskegee and other historical examples of oppression. This new round of chatter by Rev. Wright seems to me to be more about ego and righteousness and is vanity pure and simple. I cannot say I blame the Rev for wanting to defend himself, but to do so now is surely more about ego and pride then a defense of his principles. I DO NOT see what this has to do with Obama. I know anyone who opposes him wants it to be but its not. Most Americans care little for this Rev. Wright squabble. They care about paying 4 bucks for gasoline, losing their homes etc. In fact I suspect that this issue is the very thing most Obama supporters wanted to eliminate in the first place. Instead of partisan bickering, swift boating, mud slinging and negativity, citizens just want results and meaningful change. Perhaps Rev Wright could have thought about that as well before he injected himself back into the conversation to yet again become a distraction to the real problems facing this country. What he now have here with Rev Wright speaking up is best summed up like this...."You're so vain. I bet you think this campaign is about you."

Posted by: feastorafamine | April 29, 2008 4:30 PM

how dare you! how dare! you! i don't know the words. fool me once...can't get fooled again.

Posted by: buttsausages4sale | April 29, 2008 4:30 PM

It's depressing to read the cynical, mean-spirited comments above, written by self-righteous and petty people who feel superior to those of us who are not cynical and contemptuous. I'm afraid it makes them feel intelligent to "see through" anyone's protestations or beliefs.

Obama is an impressive man. I'm reading his first book now. If someone like him cannot be elected to the presidency because of mean-spirited, predatory cynics, there's no hope for representative democracy; we'll just be ruled by oil tycoons and defense industry profiteers who rely on pushing people's buttons to stay in power.

Posted by: btraven | April 29, 2008 4:30 PM

If we want to win the Whitehouse in November, supporters of Hillary and Barak need to stop slinging dirt at the other's candidates. The important thing, as I see it, is for a Democrate to win in November and I think we'd be lucky to have either candidate. Let's stop playing into the pressess hand and be glad we have two excellent candidates to select from. As Lincoln said, "United we stand, divided we fall."

Posted by: Elizabeth | April 29, 2008 4:29 PM

Kathy:

HERE'S WHAT MATTERS (to me, at least). Overturning Roe v. Wade.

Rev. Wright hasn't affected my vote either.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 4:29 PM

If this is a "preacher", may God save this country from him and his "nephew and niece."

We have greater issues than what transpired ages ago and what part of it the "old uncle, great orator nephew, the unproud niece and their grand ayatollah Farrakhan suffered?" They made their millions playing the same drums and benefitting from every bit of it.

Black, white, browns, polka dots and yellow all suffering from the "cousin Cheney's" doings, now "old uncle" beats the same old drum again and the "fast talker but slow in action nephew" condemns it, WOW!!!

Those who want to see this man in the White House first get their heads out of where ever and read the last so-called denouncements.

Is it, I will denounce it more vehemently if he speaks again. Otherwise let the uncle take a long vacation and keep quite until the fools elect him as a payback.

Earlier, Obama "could not disassociate himself from the uncle as he could not from his white grand mother." How long it takes for him to understand his own pastor of decades and he wants to lead this country?

Not a tough question if you don't have the blindfold of race on your brain.

Regards.

Posted by: Najam, NJ | April 29, 2008 4:29 PM

Meanwhile, we have a President and an administration that sanctioned the use of torture and secret prisons FROM THE WHITE HOUSE! Do any of you who are so concerned and outraged over the comments of a hack like Wright have any concern about what your government is doing? Do you even know about it?

Posted by: Meanwhile | April 29, 2008 4:29 PM

Damn, There are a lot of racists here.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 4:29 PM

You poor Barak lovers are so naive, of course he's upset over that American-hater wright, IT'S HURTING HIS CAMPAIGN!!!!

Show me who your friends are, and I'll tell you who you're going to be, Sen. Obama...

Posted by: Mark | April 29, 2008 4:28 PM

What does Obama really believe?

He was willing to write a book, the Audacity to Hope, based on a sermon by Rev. Wright. He prayed with the man before he announced his run for president. He's been going to Trinity UCC for 20 years, got married and had his children baptized there. Now he's just beginning to see what Wright is all about?

I saw what Wright was all about just by observing him. Maybe if he brings Obama down he can justify his views. Having a black president would upset Wright's apple cart.

And Obama is still reluctant to speak out forcefully. He's not the man I thought he was.

Obama's chickens have indeed come home to roost. Maybe Hillary's been right sticking the race out.

Posted by: will | April 29, 2008 4:28 PM

I TRUST YOU MR. BUSH WITH MY WAR VOTE

HILLARY C

Posted by: Hi$$ary Clinton | April 29, 2008 4:28 PM

Thank God we're all focused on this nonsense. That way when John McSame or Shrillary drive this country over the edge, we won't even know it. The McSame supporters want to turn away from Hagee saying that he wasn't connected to this racist for 20 years. Yes, he only openly courted and coveted the endorsement, and then when asked about the racist views, did nothing to disavow the endorsement.

As for Shrillary, this story helps keep her incessant lies of the front page. But should she steal the nomination, then we can be rest assured that the RepubeliKlan attack machine will give us a summer of Bill Clinton's semen, Whitewater, Filgate, Travelgate, Bill Clinton's lying, his disbarment, etc., etc., etc. Not to mention that Shrillary didn't have the courage to stand up to George Bush and vote against the Iraq war.

God help this country is either that old coot or bitter lying nag get elected.

Posted by: Shrillary is a liar | April 29, 2008 4:28 PM

Dylan - Did your entire family attend your wedding when you married the family pig, or did you elope? And does the squiggly tail bother you in bed?

Posted by: Huh | April 29, 2008 4:28 PM

you bunch of poor, stupid, BITTER racist. If you are going to vote for Mccain then fine just do it. We are tired of your empty threats you economically depressed geezers!!

Posted by: Stupid Hillary Supporters | April 29, 2008 4:23 PM
___________
No, we are going to vote for Hillary, you racist idiot! We're tired of your stupid victimization of yourselves when you have the same chances everybody else does, if not more. Why don't you put down the crack pipe and koolaid and get a job! Idiot!

Posted by: Koolaid Adled Obamafreaks | April 29, 2008 4:28 PM

I can't believe the commentary of the anti-Obama hypocrites here. I guess none of you never had a friend or a family member that betrayed you. Someone you thought you knew so well.

---------------------

You really have to have fallen out of a barn door to believe this tripe. Obama has been aware of Wright's incendiary views for a long time. The "old uncle" has only recently become politically damaging however, and so now must go. See

http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2008/04/the_anatomy_of_wrights_disinvi.html

for more on what Obama knew.

Posted by: JamesC | April 29, 2008 4:28 PM

now you know most black churches are just like this one. it's a form of entertainment for them and venting, like the two minute hate in 1984.

Posted by: theoriginalassclown | April 29, 2008 4:27 PM

"I was always against the Iraq war."

vs.

"The person that I saw yesterday was not the person that I had come to know over 20 years."

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 4:27 PM

Dick Morris just said on fox news that obama was in church the day that the Rev wright said ..the chickens have come home to roost ....

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 4:26 PM

If we can pick our pastors, we can also pick our spouses. Let's check in our closets before we start talking about others. It is good to go out, call superDo and tell them about Obama's former pastor but it is also good to tell them about the man who doesn't know when to bring down his zipper! We go to Church to worship God not our pastors. If everybody has to leave church because of what pastor said and did, we won't have church. Jesus came down for the sinners like us not for the great and clean people like Hillary and Bill Clinton ! Now Hillary, show me the numbers of delegates and I will show you the nomination. Also, the organiser of the forum at National Press Club is Hillary's supporter!
Chantilly, Virginia

Posted by: Paul | April 29, 2008 4:26 PM

I USED MY RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU TO PROFIT

PLEASE PARDON ME

WU. & YOUR BROTHER

Posted by: pardon me hillary | April 29, 2008 4:26 PM

HERE'S WHAT MATTERS. I just filled up my gas tank and it set me back $60. My car's not a guzzler and I'm going to need a refill in 3 days. Then there's the war.

Rev. Wright hasn't affected my vote.

Posted by: Kathy | April 29, 2008 4:25 PM

Sean Kirk:

Check out the latest thread about new polling data.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/04/29/the_impact_of_wright.html#comments

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 4:25 PM

HILLARY IN 2008!!
HILLARY IN 2008!!
JOIN IN AMERICA. PUT YOUR SUPPORT BEHIND THE MOST QUALIFIED CANDIDATE:
HILLARY

Besides knowing how best to get things done for America...she knows where everything is the White House!

Posted by: Ebonyflash | April 29, 2008 4:24 PM

i WOULD RATHER POKE NEEDLES IN MY EYE

THAN SEE BUSH CLINTON BUSH CLINTON BUSH CLINTO BUSH CLINTON

Posted by: HAPPY | April 29, 2008 4:19 PM
________________
I've got a good seeing-eye dog to sell you before it happens!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 4:24 PM

This article left out parts of what Obama said. In all the other press reports, Obama said: "This is not the Reverend Wright I knew for 20 years".


BS.... He knows Wright hasn't changed a bit in 20 years. What a liar. Obama will say anything to save his #ss

Posted by: autowx | April 29, 2008 4:24 PM

You Hillary Hags & Hogs have got to be the most stupid people on earth. Just because this witch has no problem sliming and lying at the same time you think she is tough? I think you are just ignorant. She is a basket case herself. You are also delusional to think that she has any chance at winning the nomination you bunch of poor, stupid, BITTER racist. If you are going to vote for Mccain then fine just do it. We are tired of your empty threats you economically depressed geezers!!

Posted by: Stupid Hillary Supporters | April 29, 2008 4:23 PM

This is setting up great.

Obama: rejected for close association w/ a black racist.

McCain: rejected for being too old and too angry and too liberal and too conservative.

Hillary: rejected for, well, take your pick, but she's done anyway, so who cares.

Throw Nader and Bloomberg into the mix, and the "winner" gets about a third of the vote.

Posted by: Chris | April 29, 2008 4:23 PM

it's a little late for this little sissy to try to grow a pair of testicles isn't it? he's a mama's boy and a panzy who was probably afraid to fight in grade school too. ha ha ha. next time bring a strong man to the fight, not a little weenie boy. we don't want to have to rename the president's residence the Black SissyBoy's House.

Posted by: nutsacksrus | April 29, 2008 4:23 PM

I NEED MORE HILLARY BROTHERS PARDONS

AND BILL BLOW jIB SCANDALS

GO HILLARY

Posted by: PARARAZZI | April 29, 2008 4:23 PM

Wow. I can only thank the fact that the posters on this board do not represent a true cross-section of America.

It is not as much the ignorance and hatred as the pride in the ignorance and hatred that gets me. From supporters of all the candidates.

Posted by: steve boyington | April 29, 2008 4:23 PM

Hey, P Diddy, how are you doing? How can this not cause you to question Obama's judgment, not even just a little?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 4:23 PM

Me thinks the media has done it again. Every election period the American people become brainwashed and then have the, dare I say, audacity, to wonder why their lot in life does not improve. Americans seem to beleive what their media tells them to believe. For some it's a cop-out for others, all that's needed is an excuse.

One more thing I've noticed - judging by some of the comments in this thread ... I wonder if this Jeremiah Wright was on to something?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 4:23 PM

What's most funny and stupid and sad about the controversy over Rev. Wright is how conservatives (like the ones commenting here with their references to "Evil" and "Hypocrisy" and their cult rhetoric) actually think they're accomplishing something.
How absurd!

They apparently think that, in concert with Rush Limbaugh et al, they're going to persuade a winning majority of the american public to vote for John McCain... i.e. for prolonging the Iraq debacle, for more of the no-bid subcontracts to Halliburton susidiaries, the billions per month wasted, the thousands of irreplaceable human beings killed and maimed... and for more of the shambles Republican policies and greed have made of our nation's economy!

I guess you folks should enjoy your moment of manic 'joy' and false empowerment while you've got it, because...

YOU"RE STILL GOING TOO LOSE THE GENERAL ELECTION IN NOVEMBER!

Posted by: Sean Kirk | April 29, 2008 4:23 PM

I just love all the people who claim that character is not an issue in electing a president. Honesty, integrity, decency, evidently those should not matter at all when it comes to electing a president...
Posted by: masanf | April 29, 2008 4:10 PM

______________________________________________

So what explains the two term George W. Bush?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 4:22 PM

Obama the chameleon man, last seen morphing into a Republican on FOX news, has now been spotted morphing into Sgt. Shultz from Hogan's Heroes --

Sgt. Obama -- I knew nothing, nothing!!!!

Yeah, right.

Posted by: Obama's morphed into Sgt. Shultz | April 29, 2008 4:22 PM

Rev Wright is jeapardizing Obama's chance to become the first Black President in our nation's 232 year history. What a narcisstic, angry person Rev. Wright must be to ruin the hopes and dreams of millions of Black Americans. This nation desperately needs a new direction, a new dream for a better America. The fulfillment of the true spirit of liberty, freedom, and justice promised in the Declaration of Independence of 1776. God Bless Barack Obama.

Posted by: A.Lincoln | April 29, 2008 4:22 PM

Obama ....Wright.....if they walk like a duck and quack like a duck..theres a very good chance they are a duck and very very good chance they came out the same flock.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 4:22 PM

So the Press Club invites Wright to speak ... maybe thinking they were doing Obama a favor and the "Reverend" would somehow explain away his hate-mongering, after all, the Press Club probably believed that Obama never 'heard' anything wrong! And look what happens - the whole world learns that Obama MUST HAVE UNDERSTOOD how damaging Wright's remarks can be ... or did he? Maybe he didn't because how in the world do you take your children to a "church" that teaches such hatred? If this is okay by Obama, then I really question his judgement. All I can say is - too little, too late, Obama, you should have denounced Wright well before the first time there was any question and there was proof of what his 'sermons' included. Why didn't Obama bring about change in that church if he has such capability? Obama will bring about change only where he believes something is wrong. Obama did not think his pastor was obviously wrong for all those years but now he does? Instead, Obama waited until AFTER Wright reiterated the hate-white-people ... hate-US-government ... hate-America message and then he said Wright is not his spiritual advisor. I am not Harvard educated, but I am NO idiot! If my priest ever spoke about blacks and the US government like Wright does, my priest would NOT have a job!!! In my faith, we pray during every liturgy for the health and well-being of all people, the armed forces, our government and it's leaders (among other things), so I will pray for Obama, but I will not vote for him.

Posted by: me2 | April 29, 2008 4:21 PM

"I was always against the Iraq war."

vs.

"The person that I saw yesterday was not the person that I had come to know over 20 years."

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 4:21 PM

Taking the AA vote for granted is foolhardy, even for the "snatch defeat from the jaws of victory" Democrats.

Posted by: Don't Speculate about AAs if You Aren't One | April 29, 2008 4:13 PM
____________
I'm not taking anything for granted. I'm just saying, I think the Dems can still win although it will be a squeaker, if AAs decide to stay home. Too many people care more about ending the war, fixing the economy, creating jobs and the Supreme Court than Barack Obama. I imagine even a lot of the older AAs will have the maturity to do the right thing.

Posted by: Dem's da breaks | April 29, 2008 4:21 PM


Too little too late

Obama, it's time to quit.

Posted by: Jamal | April 29, 2008 4:21 PM

As the spokesperson of all white people everywhere, I demand an apology from the spokesperson of all black people everywhere. You owe us an apology for O.J. as well as financial restitution. Thank you.

Posted by: KingofAllWhites | April 29, 2008 4:21 PM

Stop and think...think...think. Do you want four more years of "more of the same?" This is what you get with McBush and Clinton...They tell us every day. They both support the war. The war is causing our economy to go down the tubes. This was enemy's plan...to drain us economically and they have succeeded. The real enemy is in Afghanistan. There is nobody at the wheel in Washington. One candidate offers real change. Have you had enough? It's time for a change. We are with you Barack...don't ever doubt it...we pray to the Good Lord to forgive us for turning away from his instructions...so simple and clear...including though shalt not kill. Stand up America and don't let these "hoods" take us down the road to total distruction. No to McBush and Clinton!! Yes to sanity.

Posted by: royals1 | April 29, 2008 4:20 PM

"Hard working, law abiding American have a hard time understanding that or wanting to give Amnesty to 20 or 30 millions Invading criminals that is costing Americans their Money, their lives, their jobs & their culture!"

Then don't vote for McSame. He's for amnesty for illegal aliens.

The Repukes LOVE illegal aliens, they are cheap labor. Chimpy kept our border WIDE OPEN for the last 6 1/2 years since 9-11. And Chimpy cut funding for the Border Patrol and Coast Guard after 9-11.

If you think the Repukes are going to stop the illegal flood, you are delusional.

I'm a union Democrat and I don't like illegals taking our jobs. They are now taking skilled labor jobs and undercutting wages.

Posted by: Tom3 | April 29, 2008 4:20 PM

i WOULD RATHER POKE NEEDLES IN MY EYE

THAN SEE BUSH CLINTON BUSH CLINTON BUSH CLINTO BUSH CLINTON

Posted by: HAPPY | April 29, 2008 4:19 PM

First off, my support for Barack Obama is unchanged by this.

Second, I simply do not understand Reverend Wright's actions yesterday. Maybe someone with experience in the African American community can shed light on it.

I am quite sure that I will never understand what life under Jim Crow was like, nor can I ever understand the circumstances under which Reverend Wright's life views were formed. As a person of color, I have experienced instances of racism throughout my life, so I can surely understand the anger and bitterness.

But Barack Obama even being a serious contender for the presidency is a major milestone for the entire country, and African Americans in particular. (and, no, Obama's ethnicity is not why I am voting for him) I cannot fathom why Reverend Wright would purposefully attempt to scuttle Obama's chances.

I understand that he is a "Man of God" (though, as far as I'm concerned his speech is filled with the same type of vitriol and egocentricity as those of John Hagee or Pat Robertson). I understand that he is not a politician. I understand that he owes Barack Obama nothing at all.

But his performance yesterday sought to explain how African Americans are prejudiced against and how they should rightfully claim power of their own. Does he not see that Barack Obama's ascension is a tremendous milestone on the path towards a day where race truly does not matter?

Mature adults hold numerous philosophical and moral views, all shaped by their life experiences. Sometimes through the course of life these views are at odds. In those instances, most mature adults I know are able to determine that sacrificing a view on one topic in favor of another can mean ultimate progress.

Can't Reverend Wright see that remaining silent about the "attack on the 'black Church'" so that Barack Obama's campaign can run its course could, ultimately, demonstrate progress for the entirety of the African American community and the nation as a whole?

I really don't understand this man or his motivations. Is it pure ego? Greed? Jealousy? Anger? What negative emotions could spur such negative thoughts?

Then again, I don't understand Pat Robertson, John Hagee, and anyone else who takes advantage of a holy position to preach hatred and inequality.

Posted by: P Diddy | April 29, 2008 4:19 PM

Why didn't Sen Obama dissociate twenty years ago? Because it helped him win popularity in Illinois. Why does he dissociate now? Because it doesn't help him gain popularity. Typical politician.

Posted by: Bryan | April 29, 2008 4:19 PM

Many of these comments expose the level of vitriol that exists in this country. For you, OBAMA is damned if he does and damned if he does not. You are ridiculous FOOLS.

As it relates to mistakes, I say Let he that is without sin caste the first stone.

What is really pissing you off is that you did not expect, nor did you want him to do what he has done. Now you will have to come up with other excuses to attack, and that is exactly what you are doing here.

OBAMA is a man of integrity but you cannot see that "because it takes one to know one"

OBAMA in 08

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 4:19 PM

I cannot believe what I am reading. I am so ashamed. The hatemongers of the United States have united. This young mans biggest offence is wanting to unite this country, treat men and women differently, see if he can improve our healthcare, open discussions so we can understand each other maybe just a little. He actually admitted he was not perfect but to offer hope to anyone living with all the problems we now have is the most amazing thing we could be offered. He has not killed 4000 of our best and brightest, he has not usurped the constitution to where our rights, the base of our democracy have been denegrated, he has not allowed huge corporations to manipulate the economy for their own profit with no culpability, Where was all this ire when George Bush mangled our country? Where was all this anger when the citizens of New Orleans were dying? Where was all this richeous indignation when our soldiers came back to much touted support but found out it was a hollow promise? I am appaled at these people - there is a moral vaacuum in these statements. We are all Americans and we are brothers and sisters in this country and the only way we will survive is to treat each other as we would be treated. We will be judged by our actions. The world is judging us now and I'm afraid we are truely looking like idiots.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 4:18 PM

Enough Already:

[PAUSE]

The U.S. Supreme Court is more important right now.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 4:18 PM

Wright was flippant, arrogant and hurtful yesterday and he pushed Obama too far. It must have been a really difficult night for him.

Obama has been wounded by this and it's like someone he loves has died today. Many of us have racist parents and grandparents that we love and if you think it's easy denouncing a flawed person that you love, think again.

Farrakhan was never endorsed by Obama, ever. Ed Rendell, the Jewish governor of Pennsylvania is the only one who ever endorsed Farrakhan. Those claiming Obama and Farrakhan are linked are just lumping black people together. How ironic!

Posted by: asja | April 29, 2008 3:25 PM

*******************

Beautifully and intelligently put; exactly my thoughts, but better stated. There are a lot of denounciations of Obama on this board this afternoon, but most are our old friends from the reactionary right, not potential Obama voters. He comes out way ahead in balance. Even if Wright decides to fire back--and I don't think he will--Obama counters with Wright's associations with Dr. Barbara and the Clinton campaign, which organized the National Press Club appearance.

Good, strong move, Obama: you did the right (sorry) thing.

Posted by: abqcleve | April 29, 2008 4:18 PM

This is what really matters.

Go to www.lasuperiorcourt.org.
Under civil cases, click on case summaries, search case number BC304174.

A hearing was held 4/25/08/ Another hearing for contempt will be held in May.
Nope, no one knows why a lot of the media is not reporting this.

Senator Clinton and her husband are going on trial for fraud. Also google "clinton fraud trial". It's all there in black and white.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 4:18 PM

You may not be a winner but

BABY YOUR WHERE BORN TO RUN

Posted by: Bruce Springteen | April 29, 2008 4:17 PM

It's not that Republicans are inherently better than Democrats, it's just that they're so much more competent (with some exceptions).

What's interesting, then, is not the public servant in question, but the demographic of supporters for a particular candidate. The idealistic naievete of Obama supporters vs. the stubborn ignorance of Hillary supporters vs. the calm duty of McCain supporters.

The writing's on the wall. Tell Obama to come back in 8 years, maybe he can get on an effective ticket.

Posted by: Why Ron Switched | April 29, 2008 4:17 PM

"I was always against the Iraq war."

vs.

"The person that I saw yesterday was not the person that I had come to know over 20 years."

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 4:16 PM

It is never easy to part with one who has been a spiritual advisor for a very long time. It is never a time of joy. So I understand the sadness that Obama feels. I understand the apprehension in not wanting to denounce someone who has had such a spiritual impact in your relationship to God. Had Obama just outright denounced Wright, I'd be calling him weak for caving in to public pressure.

Now that Obama has said this piece, any credible media outlet will refocus the American attention BACK onto the issues that threaten Americans.

Haven't we ignored domestic issues long enough? Does ANYONE care about the shrinking middle class in America? Or about the difficulties that new college graduates are having in finding employment? About a global food shortage? About America's dependence on foreign oil from those who hate us when there is alternative fuel sources (coal) in Montana that could sustain us for 200 years? About fewer federal student loans? About being in debt to a communist China that is funding this war in Iraq (We are in debt to China!!)? About escalating violent crime in urban cities across America? About an illegal war that John McCain says he doesn't care if it keeps American's there another 100 years?

Pastor Wright is not running for office. Obama is nothing like him. Hillary's spiritual advisor of choice during the "blue dress" episode was Jesse Jackson, does that make her a "keep hope alive" bible thumper?

I won't vote for McCain, and if this silliness continues I won't vote for Hillary even if she is the Democratic nominee.

I'll be one disillusioned black man staying at home waiting for America to implode upon itself.

I ask that American's take a pause and ask themselves what is more important right now?

Posted by: Enough Already | April 29, 2008 4:16 PM

Black people:

Why are you so mad? Obama chose Rev Wright 20 years ago and didn't bother to cut him loose before running for president. I'm sure if America had known about Rev Wright before Iowa, Obama would not be in the race. Obama perpetrated a fraud on the American people.

If you get mad and decide not to vote for Hillary, we can only hope that hispanic voters and anti-war voters will take up your slack and we can still win this thing.

Posted by: Obama Who? | April 29, 2008 4:16 PM

I didn't see mamabama denouncing. Clearly, black people everywhere owe us an apology. appy polly logies

Posted by: Jerimiah Wright | April 29, 2008 4:15 PM

Tom3:

So, not a single Democratic politician in the entire Florida Capitol voted to move up the primary, huh?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 4:15 PM

A little late Obama. As the reverend said yesterday, its all politics.

Posted by: Mitchell | April 29, 2008 4:14 PM

I can't believe the commentary of the anti-Obama hypocrites here. I guess none of you never had a friend or a family member that betrayed you. Someone you thought you knew so well. This situation is surreal. It is like watching a marriage that existed for 20 yrs, suddenly unravel with the parties doing what they can to destroy each other. But I forgot Obama is a presidential candidate, and so must be held to a loftier standard.

Posted by: tydicea | April 29, 2008 4:13 PM

Any Hillary supporters who vote for McLame are not real Democrats anyway.

They're just closet Repukes...inbred, illiterate rednecks.

Posted by: Tom3 | April 29, 2008 4:13 PM

Dems Da Breaks:

You are terribly naive if you think that the AA vote only matters in red, southern states.

Who is the key demographic of the Democratic party? Certainly not poor and (most) middle class whites. They trend Republican.

Blacks, liberal whites, a few moderate middle class whites, and the 18-30 vote are the core constituencies of the Democratic party.

If the AA vote is suppressed, the Dems have no hope of winning even traditionally Democratic states. That is reality.

Taking the AA vote for granted is foolhardy, even for the "snatch defeat from the jaws of victory" Democrats.

Posted by: Don't Speculate about AAs if You Aren't One | April 29, 2008 4:13 PM

If you want to blame somebody for FL votes not being counted...blame the REPUKES.

The REPUKE state legislature was the culprit, they moved up the primary date.

And the REPUKE governor is whining about the Democrats "not counting every vote".

This problem was manufactured by the REPUKES.

As for Hillary, the Repukes are supporting her and hope she wins.

That is the most damning condemnation of Hillary I can think of. If the Repukes like her, there is something wrong with her.

Posted by: Tom3 | April 29, 2008 4:12 PM

It's a win-win situation now for Hillary Clinton.

If Obama gets the nomination, Hillary supporters will be flocking to John McCain.

If McCain wins in 2008, Hillary may likely win in 2012.

Posted by: Vote for McCain!, Hillary supporters! | April 29, 2008 4:12 PM

who ever wrote that jefferson was right, that blacks are 3/4 human clearly did not understand history.
actually it was 3/5 and the reason was not to reduce blacks but to prevent slave woning states from running the country by allowing them all those votes.
if they did not use the 3/5 standard we would still be half slave states. no true believer in freedom would ever have been elected president like lincoln was.
and to object to the politics of someone who is black is not an attack on all black people.
but if it is true that wrights church is what you can expect from all black churches - as the naacp said 3 days ago, then the blacks in america need to get it together.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 4:12 PM

that's right. oprah had the good sense to quit this church to produce boring preachy movies like the great debaters.

Posted by: oprah | April 29, 2008 4:11 PM

I am still in support of Sen. Obama.
I never took anything Rev. Wright said as a reason not to vote for Sen. Obama and I still don't. I do not believe that Sen. Obama is a racist or holds racist views and the persons who are using this as an excuse not to vote for him weren't going to vote for him to begin with. That's the simple truth of the matter. I agree with his policy positions and that is what I have and will continue to cast my vote for.

Posted by: Tera_J | April 29, 2008 4:10 PM

PS - Seems like teh pile on is from GOP and HRC supporters. Envy is a sin. Then to shout liar like he has a monopoly on that item - I did not know this board was for saints.....annoyed does not walk on water like you, and are not as holy as you, and not as honest as you, and does not have pure friends like you, and does not have a perfect life like you - or is it really does not have skin like you?

Funny, yet sadly revealing.

Posted by: Huh | April 29, 2008 4:10 PM

Monday, April 28, 2008 Morning Edition

WND Exclusive ELECTION 2008
Clintons to face fraud trial,
Judge setting date, testimony to include ex-president, senator.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 4:10 PM

I just love all the people who claim that character is not an issue in electing a president. Honesty, integrity, decency, evidently those should not matter at all when it comes to electing a president, at least that is what the Obama supporters appear to be claiming. I am curious then, if you are not judging Barack Obama by his character, what exactly are you judging him on? It sure as heck isn't his legislative achievements because he doesn't have any, at all.
Don't waste the time of the Washington Post readers by telling us Barack Obama is such a great guy and we should vote for him simply because he says so, and then turn right around and claim character doesn't matter. You can't have it both ways.

Posted by: masanf | April 29, 2008 4:10 PM

Obama 1727
Hillary 1589
Edwards 19

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/scorecard/

And no, MI and FL will not be counted. Both states broke party rules. And Obama wasn't even on the ballot in MI so there is no way they will get seated.

It figures the Repukes are clamoring to seat the MI and FL delegates, even though it is none of their damn business.

Posted by: Tom3 | April 29, 2008 4:10 PM

What I find the most scary is the nastiness and hatred emanating from many of the anti-Obama people who have commented here. Disagreement is one thing - what these people say is another thing altogether. Is this what drives the American electorate? God help us!

Posted by: colton | April 29, 2008 4:10 PM

http://www.slate.com/id/2188985/ Proof that Obama is trying to keep the vote from counting in FL!!!!

Posted by: I LOVE HILLARY | April 29, 2008 4:10 PM

For the record, I am registered Independent, and I don't have a sister.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 4:10 PM

More morons weigh in on the WP website! Good to see you idiots out in force again and making a mockery of Americans. Our country is going to implode, but considering the quality of human beings running this debate, I'm beginning to think we deserve it. We have huge problems, people, that go far beyond the ridiculous stuff you're talking about here. WAKE UP. TURN ON YOUR BRAINS. PLEASE.

Posted by: PrairieGirl | April 29, 2008 4:10 PM

Does anyone understand what this thumper is saying? I must be in the wrong church.

"I must say Wright, as loathsome as he is, has some truth...America loves hating! Why do people want Obama to hate Wright and insist that he should have distanced himself long time ago? Isn't Christianity about love and forgiveness? The so called pastor doesn't seem to follow on the road of Jesus, but that doesn't mean Obama is same. As long as the pastor preached the word of God, i'd participate (after all, only God knows the inner thoughts of people). But if the pastor announces he is one way (in Wright's case, evil's way) then, it's time to leave...and that's exactly what Obama did. God bless you Obama."

Posted by: Susan | April 29, 2008 4:09 PM

No matter how the DNC and liberal lames try to spin this, Billary WILL get the Superdelegate vote. Wright just made it happen. When Billary gets the go ahead nod at the Convention, The Black vote goes out the window. Florida goes out the window. Most of the South goes bye-bye. The lame bong-ripping "Youth" vote that is supposed to come out in waves (but never does) goes out the door. What? See ya Obama. See ya Billary. HELLO HERO McCAIN! YA!! GOD BLESS AMERICA!!. THANK YOU REV. WRIGHT!!

Posted by: jereamiah | April 29, 2008 4:09 PM

nothing Wright said is any more insulting than any given word of hate/intolerance from hageee and those right wing ministers. i love how they condemn the US for gay marriage and that's fine, but ask the US to account for an unjust war of aggression or civil rights abuses and 'oh man, you just can't go there.' this country used to have guts. now its a nation of soundbites and glazed over suburban dolts. what a waste.

Posted by: brianpatrick | April 29, 2008 4:09 PM

Dem's da breaks:

Unless Barack withdraws from the race, there's no doubt he's going to end up with more pledged delegates -- the "stealing" part will come up, if at all, via super delegates and/or Credentials Committee re: Florida and Michigan -- if so, there will be rioting in Denver. Mark my words.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 4:01 PM
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I think he's going to be forced to bow out before Denver, Jake. With his continued drop in the polls, at some point the big heads will go to him and tell him it's over.

Posted by: Dem's da breaks | April 29, 2008 4:09 PM

*** HEE HEE Nothing feels so good as seeing another lying black pol bite the dust!!! ***

Yep, said like another racist Arkansas hillbilly Clinton supporter.

Posted by: MC | April 29, 2008 4:09 PM

this littlepussy is afraid to fight, and against a girl no less. he's a sissymary

Posted by: mamabama | April 29, 2008 4:09 PM

"I was always against the Iraq war."

vs.

"The person that I saw yesterday was not the person that I had come to know over 20 years."

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 4:08 PM

Quote: "the "stealing" part will come up, if at all, via super delegates and/or Credentials Committee re: Florida and Michigan -- if so, there will be rioting in Denver. Mark my words."

If the super delegates are not SUPER DUMB, neither Obama or Clinton will be the nominee in Denver. Florida or Michigan will have nothing to do with it.
Neither Clinton or Obama can win now. and the democrats did it to themselves (as always).

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 4:08 PM

JakeD, you're a Repuke so this has absolutely nothing to do with you.

Do us all a favor and shut the hell up, you inbred Repuke moron. Go screw your sister.

Posted by: Tom3 | April 29, 2008 4:08 PM

Would he be "outraged" if he were not seeking the presidency? Of course not. He'd be in the front pew saying "amen" and "yes sir". At least Oprah had the decency to quit that church.

Posted by: Ellis | April 29, 2008 4:07 PM

Ok so Rev. Wright said some things that half the world disagreed with, it's funny though I didn't know HE was running for President. Everyone in this race is associated with some idiot who has said something out of line, but we as voters have to realize who we are voting for and the last time I checked Wright wasn't going to be on the ballot. People are looking for something to destroy the potential best leader this country has seen in a long time, Rev. Wright news is old. How about moving on to what past Presidental candidate Pat Buchanan had to say regarding race in America. Now that should be flooding the airwaves so we can view his stupidity.

Posted by: Tired and time to move ON!~ | April 29, 2008 4:07 PM

Tom3:

Those numbers go up if Florida and/or Michigan are counted.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 4:07 PM

Obama attended UCC because it allowed him an organic and authentic way to reach out to the impoverished communities of South Side Chicago. The same community from which his wife had emerged. This drew him to Wright.

But it takes a peculiar kind of intellectual dishonesty to believe that Obama, the left-brained universalist, would let his daughters listen to some old windbag tell them they were genetically incapable of focus.

Only now, now that context has changed so much in the last 5 years, does Obama see how incommensurable their worlds are.

Whereas Obama envisions a world where we have overcome our differences, Wright seeks to defend his own personal misconduct by ascribing it to racial differences. Then Wright throws MLK under the bus boycott, calls Obama just a politician... the friendship is over.

Perfectly plausible to me. Again, an impartial observer has every reason to take Obama's response at face value.

Posted by: whynow? | April 29, 2008 4:07 PM

Run to the bomb shelter everyone!
Rev. Wright is going to drop his WMDs all over Obama mow!! Obama struck back today...stuttering though through his responses. I certainly hope that he is ready for the "BIG PAY BACK". Rev. Wright is fanatical and radical and doesn't roll over for any man. Obama must learn this:
NO GUTS....NO GLORY.

Posted by: Ebonyflash | April 29, 2008 4:06 PM

The unfinished American Revolution will resume right after the pandering Clintons and her new bedmate McCain are given the green light from their masters that Obama has been successfully marginalized (or the remaining voting machines violated a la Bush). And while their unconscious supporters are likely heartened by the current underhandedness that seems to give them hope I would have them know my old, white mouth waters at the notion that I will be seeing the terror on your stupid faces in the streets.
How's that for a "limp wristed liberal" punks?

Posted by: Richard | April 29, 2008 4:06 PM

you all are hateful. Get over yourselves.

Posted by: maj | April 29, 2008 4:06 PM

What a pathetic bunch of phonies the Clintons and their supporters are. Hillary can't so much as open her mouth without another lie coming out.

Posted by: MC | April 29, 2008 4:06 PM

Barak Hussein Osama

Posted by: Danny | April 29, 2008 4:06 PM

AB68:

One does not necessarily exclude the other -- I do believe that God created the Heavens and the earth -- He also could have used Evolution.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 4:06 PM

MC CAIN KENNENDY

YOU GO JOHN

AMNESTY

Posted by: AMNESTY | April 29, 2008 4:05 PM

Here's the REAL delegate count:

Obama 1729
Clinton 1594

2024 needed to win.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_delegate_count.html

Posted by: Tom3 | April 29, 2008 4:05 PM

It is a sad day when one must openly disavow one who provided personal help to you. So, I extend my condolences to BHO for being put into a position where this was necessary. Political realities do not allow leaders to freely associate themselves with those who are perceived to be very different from the mainstream perspective. Of course, now BHO has to contend with people questioning his ability to bring people together.

Posted by: bjbprice | April 29, 2008 4:05 PM


It's like, sooooo OVER for Obama!

At least that's what his rabid, wild-eyed fanatic haters have been screaching for 3 months now. LOL!

Though of course he has gained enough super-delegates since the PA primary to counter Hillary's net gains in PA, and he continues to lead Hillary AND McCain nationally.

Oh well, Obama-bashers. Better luck with the next imaginary scandal that doesn't even have anything to do with Obama.

:-)

Posted by: sequoia | April 29, 2008 4:05 PM

Good job, Obama.

If I stick with the terms you've used to address Wright up to this point, Wright came out of the house and made everyone understand how he could be your crazy Uncle.

I don't think you can make the values statement you made yesterday without expounding on what values you are talking about. If you continue to talk about Wright, I think you have to explain why accomodating differences makes sense in today's America.

After reading so much commentary, I doubt the right will let Wright go. I do think the superdelegates are trying to figure out what will you do address this baggage on an ongoing basis.

I doubt very seriously that you can afford to let the media or Wright mock your run for the White House.

Posted by: Genna | April 29, 2008 4:04 PM

The fact that some Hillary staffers are clogging the boards whining about it being "too little too late" is entirely too predictable and politically transparent. Notice how no one talks about being honestly and deeply offended by Rev. Wright's comments. I mean, who would be so silly or stupid to take this seriously and/or think that this man's nutcase rants have anything to do with Obama's beliefs?

Posted by: TCMArlVa | April 29, 2008 4:04 PM

So much for that great speech on race that will be taught in classrooms for years to come. HA HA HA. What a poltroon!

Posted by: Abraham Lincoln | April 29, 2008 4:04 PM

JakeD.... curious do you accept the theory of Evolution or are you a Creationist?


Posted by: AB68 | April 29, 2008 4:04 PM

Don't Speculate:

Yeah, that was my guess too -- she will not be able to count on their vote at all -- my only concern about Hillary Clinton getting the nomination, at this point, is that McCain could die before November 4th.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 4:04 PM

Obama wants the American people to elect him on his judgment not on his experience. However, when you seek to be President of the US and your friends include Racist American hating Bigots, Terrorist, Killers and Crooks that cast lots of doubt about your judgment. Hard working, law abiding American have a hard time understanding that or wanting to give Amnesty to 20 or 30 millions Invading criminals that is costing Americans their Money, their lives, their jobs & their culture!

Posted by: Black Saint | April 29, 2008 4:04 PM

From the news:
Hillary Clinton and "The Largest Election Law Fraud in History"

"Hillary Clinton's campaign appears to be in possible legal jeopardy with the introduction of a "smoking gun" video in a court case that has somehow escaped the attention of the mainstream media.

Investor's Business Daily explains that the "scandal involves allegations by movie producer Peter Paul that a 2000 senatorial fundraiser for Clinton in Hollywood violated campaign laws. Paul claims he spent $2 million to produce the fundraising event -- a de facto campaign expenditure. Under campaign law then in effect, campaign gifts were limited to $2,000."

John Armor, Election Law Expert at Equal Justice Foundation, says Hillary is involved in the "largest election law fraud in US history."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 4:04 PM

I must say Wright, as loathsome as he is, has some truth...America loves hating! Why do people want Obama to hate Wright and insist that he should have distanced himself long time ago? Isn't Christianity about love and forgiveness? The so called pastor doesn't seem to follow on the road of Jesus, but that doesn't mean Obama is same. As long as the pastor preached the word of God, i'd participate (after all, only God knows the inner thoughts of people). But if the pastor announces he is one way (in Wright's case, evil's way) then, it's time to leave...and that's exactly what Obama did. God bless you Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 4:03 PM

REV WRONG AND RUSH LIMBO

HOPE FOR ON WHITE ON WHITE

RIOTS IN DENVER

IS THAT PATRIOT?

Posted by: OPERATION CHAOS | April 29, 2008 4:03 PM

Man he went there 20 years, good thing for the election and we're able to expose to Sen. Obama the real Rev Wright. No problem Barack, we'll dig into it deeper for you. This is an outrage!

Posted by: theaz | April 29, 2008 4:03 PM

"John McCain has my vote in 2008."

You idiot. You're voting for four more years of failed, destructive Repuke policies.

You're voting for a lying flip-flopper who even flip-flopped on TORTURE, an issue he said he would never change his mind on.

You're voting for a doofus who admits he does not understand the economy, which is in a mess because of the Repukes.

So, remember to vote on Wednesday. Only Democrats get to vote Tuesday.

I figure you're an idiot so you'll fall for that too.

Posted by: Tom3 | April 29, 2008 4:02 PM

hey, Rev wright, how's it feel to join Obama's grandma under that bus?

Posted by: Faubama | April 29, 2008 4:02 PM

Obamba has brought back old school politics. We now see him in the light he really is. Old style politics. For him its business as usual.

Posted by: Robinhood | April 29, 2008 4:02 PM

I just see lots of saints above calling Obama a hypocrite! Have they spent there lives fighting radical views of their family and friends. I just can't believe if anybody has not come across some friends and family members who has extreme views on a few things. Most of us simply ignore that part and work with that person focusing on the good things the person has. Obama has never said he is a fighter. He has consistently said that he is a uniter. Where do you find hypocrisy? Obama was born to a white mother and black father and has grown up respecting and understanding people on both sides some of whom have radical views. However rather than spending his life to fight a person here and a person there, he set is goal higher and tried to work with all kind of people to achieve common good for the country. We can either follow him to try to improve this country or tear it apart by focusing on people like Wright and so on.

Posted by: VC,MD | April 29, 2008 4:01 PM

Dem's da breaks:

Unless Barack withdraws from the race, there's no doubt he's going to end up with more pledged delegates -- the "stealing" part will come up, if at all, via super delegates and/or Credentials Committee re: Florida and Michigan -- if so, there will be rioting in Denver. Mark my words.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 4:01 PM

I got you all on a string. Do what I say and say what I tell you.

Posted by: Media Puppet | April 29, 2008 4:01 PM

COUNTDOWN
286 OBAMA
433 CLINTON
408 ELECTED 295 SUPERS

Posted by: DELEGTE COUNT | April 29, 2008 4:01 PM

In a Democratic Primary in North Carolina today, 04/29/08, one week till votes are counted, the 10-point lead that Barack Obama has had for two months is halved, to now 5 points, Obama 49%, Clinton 44%, according to SurveyUSA's 7th tracking poll, conducted exclusively for WTVD-TV Raleigh.

Posted by: Russell | April 29, 2008 4:01 PM

Sorry ID "Vote Hillary or we lose"

Hillary will probably be in jail.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 4:01 PM

Hi JakeD,

Significantly fewer than have EVER voted for a Democratic candidate in the last 100 years.

Sen. Obama is currently bringing in over 85% of AA votes in the primary states. In some states, he brings in over 90%. 90%!!!!!! That is HUGE.

I believe that Sen. Clinton is banking on the fact that given a choice between her and Sen. McCain, AAs will "tow the line" and push the button, albeit reluctantly.

I think she's wrong. What is more likely to happen is that a strong sense of frustration and apathy will develop, and the AA vote will be suppressed. That is a nightmare for the Dems.

That does not factor in the newly energized youth vote that Sen. Obama also brings in. The apathy issue remains a concern with them as well. These are key demographics that the DNC will be reluctant to part with.

Posted by: Don't Speculate about AAs if You Aren't One | April 29, 2008 4:00 PM

"I have spent my entire adult life trying to bridge the gap between different kinds of people. That's in my DNA, trying to promote mutual understanding. To insist that we all share common hopes and common dreams as Americans and as human beings. That's who I am," Obama said.

"Yesterday, we saw a very different vision of America," he went on. "I am outraged by the comments that were made and saddened over the spectacle that we saw yesterday."

Obama said he had not spoken in several weeks with the former leader of Trinity United Church of Christ, who performed his marriage, baptized his his two daughters and inspired the title of his latest book, "The Audacity of Hope."

"There has been great damage," Obama said. "I do not see the relationship being the same after this."
_______________________________________________

Enough on that....

Now, I want to know what Barrack Obama will do to address this global food shortage causing massive uprisings across the world. Nations including Italy.

You know, IMPORTANT stuff. The stuff that Hillary would rather not talk about.

Posted by: Concernedaboutdc | April 29, 2008 4:00 PM

John McCain is married to a drug addict who used her own charitable organization as her personal drug store...Not to mention the Keating 5 and not to mention his FL campaign Manager who solicits men in a bathroom...Hmmmmm I wonder who will have more of a problem with associates in the General...

Posted by: Beka | April 29, 2008 4:00 PM

if white people keep attacking obama. you better believe that clinton's people will be watching the back of mccains head walking into the white house in january. she can't win without blacks, unless she becomes a republican. does she have enough time to change parties? then watch what you say.
peace

Posted by: chuck | April 29, 2008 4:00 PM

Obama is toast. Even if he wins the Dem nomination, enough people will be freaked out by his "judgement" (since his record is non-existent) and vite for McCain.

We are skrewed.

Posted by: 761-091 | April 29, 2008 4:00 PM

If Obama said what Wright said, youd be right to disown him

Practicing Guilt by association is an old racist practice. It allows a hook for racists to justify not voting for Obama.
Its understood that they would never vote for Obama. But to not vote Obama cause of his paster is the same as lynching an innocent person cause the mob wants to.

Posted by: define racism | April 29, 2008 4:00 PM

"All the Dems had to do was nominate a moderate, white, southern/middle america candidate who had been already vetted (i.e. Edwards, Bayh, etc.) and this election was a slam dunk for them."

And you call yourself a democrat? So blacks should never be nominated for president?

Bayh has been "vetted"? Edwards has had one term in the Senate, and managed to reverse his position on nearly every major issue he voted on.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:59 PM

"Obama had 7 hours to come out & denounce Rev Wright after his speech yesterday.
He did Not.
After seeing the reaction in the public, he decides to try to save his campaign.
It just shows what kind of person Barack Obama truely is."

This is a good point. If Hillary says something his campaign doesn't like, they throw a punch at her within minutes. Obama is a press hog and a novice politician.


Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:59 PM

Alot of anger among the anti-Obama folks; alot of hate. It seems a lot of these attacks are short-sighted:

People threatened with danger.

That's not the secure refuge,

Not the supreme refuge,

That's not the refuge,

Having gone to which

You gain release

From all suffering & stress.

Posted by: Factory Worker, Akron Ohio | April 29, 2008 3:59 PM

Rev WRONG SINGING OPERATION CHAOS SWIFT BOAT TOUR

IS NOW AT WAR WITH OBAMA

Posted by: SWIFT BOAT TOUR | April 29, 2008 3:59 PM

Pastor Wright showed his egotistical, destructive side. He was called to stand up and look inside himself and he failed. He stood behind all his outrageous statements and made his presentation at the perfect time to hurt Senator Obama. What a small man he has proven himself to be.

Senator Obama's campaign is about bringing people together. I pray that we can heal the divide that seems to be growing right now. It is a divide that politicians have used to get people to vote against their own best interests since before recorded history. Rev. Wright stoked those fires of hate and misunderstanding and has failed his ministry and his people.

Posted by: Chuck | April 29, 2008 3:59 PM

Just remember that Reich Wingnuts like Hagee and Parsley want to influence McLame if he ever gets into the White House.

They'll tell him Jeeezus wants him to push the button.

I'd rather have Wright than those two whackos.

Posted by: Tom3 | April 29, 2008 3:59 PM

Don't Speculate:

O.K., I will just ask then. How many African-Americans will vote for Hillary Clinton if she steals the nomination away from Barack Obama?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 3:54 PM
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At this point, one would have to be a tard to think of Clinton getting the nomination as stealing. She is the only hope we Dems have of winning. Obama's boat has sunk! We can only be thankful that most African-Americans are concentrated in the southern Red states where we aren't going to win anyway.

Posted by: Dem's da breaks | April 29, 2008 3:59 PM

Obama now thinks that this is "appalling" because he can see the nomination slipping away. The Democratic National Committee is near hysterics over this and are trying to figure out a way to get the super delegates to change their minds.

Posted by: Jay | April 29, 2008 3:59 PM

Google www.lasuperiorcourt.org. Go to civil trials, click on case summaries, put in search case number BC304174. The media is not reporting it but Senator Clinton will be on trial for fraud. Hearing was held 4/25/08.
Google Clinton fraud trial.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:58 PM

"So what did Obama learn about Wright in the last 8 weeks that he didn't know over the last 20 years?"

Amen. And it wasn't really the past eight weeks, it was only yesterday that he unequivocally denounced the guy. For all of the Obama supporters out there, I hate to tell you this (well, actually I don't) but this speech does not erase 20 years of associating with a bigot.
And for all the people who are trying to claim guilt-by-association shouldn't be used against Obama, I say give me a break. If John McCain had a close 20 year association with David Duke, it would rightly be an issue, and no sane person would vote for him. Well, as the last few days proved, Wright is a bigot easily as vile as Duke, if not more so. To claim Obama had no idea about this is to strain credulity, to say the least. A two minute speech does not erase a 20 year association. The damage has been done, and Obama will get crushed in November.

Posted by: Vote Hillary or we lose | April 29, 2008 3:58 PM

I had enough of both these phonies.

I will never ever vote for a racist like Obama no matter how he tries to spin it.


John McCain has my vote in 2008.
Hillary may run again in 2012 if she loses the nomination.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:58 PM

Obama is showing to be a a big phoney. Say and do anything to get elected. A fake Blah

Posted by: Rev. Wright | April 29, 2008 3:58 PM

I certainly hope that someone removes the bigoted posts that are in here. Even if you feel that Sen Obama did a dis-service you shouldn't use racially charged language if you're an intelligent person with a brain. It's not necessary to be that nasty to get your point across.

If you feel that this was a political maneuver say so, but don't do so in racially tinged language. It's offensive - far more offensive than anything I've seen.

Posted by: MA Voter | April 29, 2008 3:58 PM

"I was always against the Iraq war."

"The person that I saw yesterday was not the person that I had come to know over 20 years."

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 3:58 PM

The NY times did a story on Rev. Wright back when he started running which is why he knew to distance himself...It sounds to me that Rev Wright just showed up like the kind of psycho chick that would save a blue dress....

Posted by: Beka | April 29, 2008 3:57 PM

What a mess! This is why your mama should have told you to not sleep during church services. Well, who's next Sen. Obama? Now that you have thrown Grandma and Uncle under the bus.

Posted by: norma | April 29, 2008 3:57 PM

Yes, Sam, just like that (I would not rule out Hillary spreading measles in Obama delegates' blakents either ; )

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 3:57 PM

To C'mon people,

All voters are not gullible. We have never known what Obama truly stands for since he does not have a significant voting record. He mostly chose to vote Present in Illinois.

So if we can't make a decision based on his voting record, it is reasonable to look at the people Obama has closely associated with over the past 20 years. His relationship with Wright was not a passing acquaintance. He sat and listened to him for 20 years, he was married by him, his own flesh and blood were baptized by Wright. These were choices that Obama made. Poor choices in my opinion. Also, I hate that Obama attempts to insult people's intelligence by saying that this was not the man he met 20 years ago. Whatever, was he the man you prayed with before you announced your candidacy?

For these reasons I will not vote for Obama in the general if he is the nominee. I for the first time will vote for a Republican.

Posted by: CB | April 29, 2008 3:57 PM

I love Dylan. It's refreshing to find someone so dumb, who is willing to put his stupidity out there in public. I can just imagine him typing along with his neanderthal fingers trying to peck the keys. Yep, you go boy! ... "That's what my momma taught me to think".......

Posted by: paul | April 29, 2008 3:57 PM

It is a shame but had to be done. It must have been like shooting an injured horse.

Posted by: Bob, DC | April 29, 2008 3:57 PM

LMFAO! :-D

NOW, proving Himself to be the Biggest Agent of Change the US Congress has ever Seen,

He will Change BACK to a Muslim!

And it will all be Wright's Fault! ;~)

Posted by: RAT-The | April 29, 2008 3:57 PM

Run Al, run!

Posted by: cosmkdbree | April 29, 2008 3:57 PM

Sad as it is, all of this racist ranting is exactly why Reverend Wright has some credibility. Intolerance of other races and cultures will be the undoing of this country, but we persist in this madness. My son (a black man)has served three tours (one year each) in Iraq. Even if we don't, the insurgents see us all as Americans, and will kill blacks and whites alike. While we fight amongst ourselves Osama Bin Laden must be laughing his head off. Eventually, he will emerge from the cave to continue/finish what he started with 9/11. We are too stupid to join together as a country to elect leaders that will protect us because we are so consumed with color and stupid distractions like Wright. Anyone that thinks Obama and Wright are cut from the same cloth are plain ignorant. Forget about "chickens coming home to roost". Prepare instead to get your goose cooked.

Posted by: Conrad | April 29, 2008 3:56 PM

AB68:

Wrong (I wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton in a million years). Now, we can't even compare two actual quotes as to Barack Obama's "judgment" without being called racists?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:55 PM

praying in the basement before annoucing his candidacy shows Barak knows exactly who Rev Wright is.

This late "shocked" reaction is purely political posturing, necessary if you still want to be elected.

Just how aware was Barak that Wright wanted to influence America thru him:

"I'll be in your Office on November 5 if you win the election....."

uh oh

Posted by: lucci8 | April 29, 2008 3:55 PM

Too little WAY too late Obama. The aids and G D America comments were well known for months if not years, and only now Obama denouces him! Can you say political?
blah blah blah blah

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:55 PM

Hillary lets get a divorce so I can git off my intern diet...It would be the perfect time so we can one up that pesky Obama in the denouncement game!

Posted by: Bill Clinton | April 29, 2008 3:55 PM

It's a shame that Sen. Obama even has to deal with this. There's nothing in his record or statements that demonstrate any allegiance to Rev. Wrights more radical or disturbing statements.

And the fact that he went to that church for 20 years mean nothing. It was a church, not a political party meeting. And Rev. Wright is the PASTOR of that church, and the norm for a couple to have the pastor of a church do their wedding or baptism. I'm Catholic, and when priests start talking about political issues, I take it with a grain of salt, as I'm sure Sen. Obama did. This was a completely manufactured issue and the media uses it to generate "content" and Obama's opponents are using it to score political points.

It's not that this country isn't ready for a black preseident, it's that this country has not yet demonstrated that it DESERVES a president as talented, honest, and wise as Sen. Obama would be.

Posted by: CDC | April 29, 2008 3:55 PM

"Hunh, Guess you were right to judge him on those soundbites after all. My bad.

"But I'm still pretty sure that Hamas, Iran, and Iraqi insurgents really just want peace. If we'll just open a dialogue and listen to them in context..."

Posted by: rafael | April 29, 2008 3:55 PM

JakeD, you mean like the Europeans STOLE this country from Native Americans?

Posted by: Sam | April 29, 2008 3:55 PM

November is a long time from now, memories are short.

Posted by: cathy | April 29, 2008 3:39 PM

Unfortunately, books authored by the candidate and you tube videos live forever. He will NOT be able to get away from this.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:55 PM

I would agree that Obama should have dealt with his association with Wright before running seriously for the presidency and not having done so may cause his downfall in the end. But I am pleased to see that he has finally stepped up to say something very firm and clear about his opposition - in fact, he earned my respect today, while I was very disappointed with his early attempts to dodge the issue. What is amazing to me though is that while Obama has moved today to say what needed to be said (even though it must been a sad day for him), after Wright's performance yesterday Obama supporters clogged these pages with comments singing Wright's praises and defending him against all criticism. Either lots of Obama supporters are completely out of step wtih Obama's own views in this area, or they are simply and mindlessly saying anything that appears to be in defense of Obama. How can all those Obama supporters who said Wright's comments yesterday were "intelligent" and "articulate" reconcile that with Obama's own evaluation? Will they go off Obama now? Who can figure out this strange cult of Obama worship?

Posted by: Daniel Watson | April 29, 2008 3:55 PM

Quote: "What did our founding fathers say about there being no religious test for the office of the president? Oh, never mind...."

That is also the reason that the US is a republic and not a democracy. Hence the caucuses. The founding fathers did not trust the common people to vote, as can be proven lately.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:55 PM

Obama had 7 hours to come out & denounce Rev Wright after his speech yesterday.

He did Not.

After seeing the reaction in the public, he decides to try to save his campaign.

It just shows what kind of person Barack Obama truely is.

Posted by: Joe K. | April 29, 2008 3:54 PM

dont tell me that the racist wright was in the military - so was benedict arnold. and for all you who went to public school - he was a successful general in the American forces during the war for independence and then he became a traitor by trying to turn the fort at west point over to the british FOR MONEY!
arnold actually won a good number of battles but he was still a traitor and so is wright.
and by being black you dont get a free ride. not liking your politics does not mean we dont every black - just YOU, hussein obama and wright.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:54 PM

Obama haters, the truth hurt doesn't it?
Hillary has shown the true Clinton in her.
She can not even run her own house, how can she run the White House? It is really sad that Obama is being blamed for every evil that is said or done by anyone that he may have known or know. Get real folks, let it go.

Posted by: CAROLYN | April 29, 2008 3:54 PM

Hmmmm.....So they were best buddies up until a week ago and now they are enemies? Seems to be a judgement problem regarding choosing his friends. Not that Hillary's "sniper" remark was appreciated. How did one commentator put it? The Democrats (of which I count myself as one) have a history of grasping defeat from the jaws of victory.

Posted by: cosmkdbree | April 29, 2008 3:54 PM

All the Dems had to do was nominate a moderate, white, southern/middle america candidate who had been already vetted (i.e. Edwards, Bayh, etc.) and this election was a slam dunk for them. Yet instead of making sure they had a Dem in the White House who could undo the monumental damage wrought by eight years of Republicans, what do they do? They choose this critical election of all elections to roll the dice just to make a statement and nominate a black or woman. Now that the untested Obama is self destructing before their eyes and a the Clinton machine damaged beyond repair, Dems have only themselves to blame as they sit and watch McCain easily take another election Republicans should never have won! Get a clue Dems and start worrying more about winning than about catering to the special interests in your party!

Posted by: Annoyed Democrat | April 29, 2008 3:54 PM

Obama wants the American people to elect him on his judgment not on his experience. However, when you seek to be President of the US and your friends include Racist American hating Bigots, Terrorist, Killers and Crooks that cast lots of doubt about your judgment. Hard working, law abiding American have a hard time understanding that or wanting to give Amnesty to 20 or 30 millions Invading criminals that is costing Americans their Money, their lives, and their jobs & their culture!

Posted by: Jeff | April 29, 2008 3:54 PM

Don't Speculate:

O.K., I will just ask then. How many African-Americans will vote for Hillary Clinton if she steals the nomination away from Barack Obama?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 3:54 PM

Mike47, you're the only voice of reason.

Posted by: Sam | April 29, 2008 3:53 PM

"Obama -- "I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can disown my white grandmother"

Voters -- "We can no more believe a single word that Obama says than we can believe in Santa Claus.""

And we can believe Senator "I had to duck down on the tarmac because of sniper fire" Clinton?????

Sit down, fool.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:53 PM

The thing is: What does the Wright-trail has to do with Obama's campaign? Everything about Wright has been spinned in the media. When Obama gives a brilliant speak on HIS values, A More Perfect Union, it takes some weeks before the media is picking up the trail again. And Hillary Clinton, you could get the impression that the most important thing she did was NOT to dodge bullets in Bosnia if you read the news. And McCain - mistresses or whatever (not much dirt on him yet though). I'm so tired of it - couldn't we just get an evalutation of the candidates policies? Who heard about their views on, say, world economy or agriculture in the last months? Not me.

Posted by: Erik | April 29, 2008 3:53 PM

What sickens me in all of this is the basic fact that the slime ball Sean Hannity is the one who ignited the most idiotic non issue of the 21st Century politics.

Thanks to all of you stupid reporters Hannity gets a validation he doesn't deserve.

Posted by: AverageJane | April 29, 2008 3:53 PM

Los Angeles Superior Court
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PETER F PAUL VS WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON

Filing Date: 10/14/2003
Case Type: Fraud (no contract) (General Jurisdiction)
Status: Pending

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:53 PM

What did our founding fathers say about there being no religious test for the office of the president? Oh, never mind....

Posted by: Tank | April 29, 2008 3:53 PM

charko825 (and a lot of other posturers shout similarly) proclaims:
"Obama is only doing this because he's tankin' in the polls... Why did he not do this before??? The fact remains that Obama was with Wright for over 20 years!!! I just don't trust Obama-he's easily influenced by this Wright guy and I think he's even more influenced by his radical wife!!"

With all of this righteous indignation, none of you who are and have been screeching about "20 years" has ever managed to state EXACTLY how this 20 years will influence anything that Obama would do in office. How EXACTLY would it influence hsi decisions on health care? How EXACTLY would it influence his decisions on gas prices? How EXACTLY would it influence his decisions on Iraq/Iran/Middle East? How EXACTLY would it influence his choices for the Supreme Court? How EXACTLY would it influence his decisions on anything?

And, how do you KNOW that it would have the effects you claim it will? Unless you a) can state what the actual, direct negative effects of this relationship will have on any decision-making Obama would be making as POTUS and b) how you KNOW that those negative effects are guaranteed (I'd even accept a demonstration of their likelihood), your whining is no more than hot air. The reality is that Wright has no more direct effect on anything that Obama does than anyone's religious advisor.

Based on the last 7+ years, I think everyone should be a hell of a lot more worried about another Cheney than I would be a Wright when it comes to direct effect on presidential decision-making. Wright as Svengali is a completely bogus "argument" - and, if it wasn't before, it sure is now that he's proven incapable of considering anyone but himself. Nancy Reagan's astrologist will, in the course of history, have had a lot more influence than Wright will.

Posted by: jk5432 | April 29, 2008 3:52 PM

Well, if you Obama haters hre think he will out of this race - FORGET IT!!! Obama is our nominee.

We are going to move heaven and earth to elect Obama the next President!!

At least he is man enough to face up his challengers (on his character). Can any one here tll where Obama has come short on POLICY??? No, not one!

All you can do is attack his character not his ideas! shame on you!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:52 PM

The responses on this site remind us why America remains a racist, deeply divided nation. Shame on all of us.

Posted by: mike47 | April 29, 2008 3:52 PM

I think JakeD and dylan belong to the KKK. If they are Clinton supporters, I'd hate to go to a Clinton rally. They'd probably have nooses as decorations.

Posted by: AB68 | April 29, 2008 3:52 PM

Hey, Stick aFork. When are you gonna denounce all you Racist friends and relatives?

Posted by: sam | April 29, 2008 3:52 PM

The sad irony is that Rev. Wright must be off his medication and has become hooked on his TV time in the national spotlight.

When he started acting like a bafoon in Detroit, I knew that he had lost his marbles and had become the hope of Hillary and McCain.

The old crab analogy comes to mind...

Posted by: The Reverend in TN | April 29, 2008 3:52 PM

Twenty years of listening to Wright's nonsense, and now, when it gets repeated on national television (in conjunction with Obama's collapsing poll numbers) he decides it's objectionable?

Was Obama deaf, blind, asleep or all three for the last 20 years?

The thing is, although Obama says this is not the man he knew etc., Wright is just repeating what he's said in the past. Obama, spare us your epiphony.

Posted by: dyinglikeflies | April 29, 2008 3:51 PM

I didn't see mamabama denouncing. Clearly, black people everywhere owe us an apology. appy polly logies

Posted by: Jerimiah Wright | April 29, 2008 3:51 PM

Barack Obama is a racist like Rev Wright. They may not admit it, but those are their true feelings deep down.
He would set back race relations 30 years if elected President.

Posted by: "Your Typical White Person" | April 29, 2008 3:51 PM

"I was always against the Iraq war."

"The person that I saw yesterday was not the person that I had come to know over 20 years."

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 3:51 PM

What difference does all this make in the general election? A big percentage of the US no longer attends church, or even cares about it or religion. Sad but true.
Let's talk about the issues. Never mind, it's too late. Senator McCain is the next president. The democrats have seen to that.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:50 PM

this cockroach sat in front of Wright for 20 years with no problem. Now he is saddened and outraged? Yes, he probably is. Saddened and outraged that he has been outed.

What does this have to do with Iraq, high gas prices, or health care?

Nothing - and neither does Obama. He has drafted zero legislation as a US senator concerning any of these issues. He just offers "change." Change is not necessarily a good thing. Embracing terrorists (of which he has a record) is change from fighting them - but its not good.

Two years ago, his party pledged to bring down gas prices. They haven't.

The left's answer to affordable health care? Socialize it. Its change alright - but it has not worked anywhere it has been tried.

Pull out of Iraq immediately? Asks the South Vietnamese how that trick played out.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:50 PM

Can it, Manitoban, or we'll invade you for whatever it is you have there. Oil? Ice? Fat chicks? Your RCMPs won't stand a chance.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:50 PM

I have excused Wright's statements because they were sound bites politically chosen to be incendiary and the news media has been eating this up and keeping the controversy alive. However, it seems that in the last three days Wright's fifteen minutes of fame has gone to his head and his statements have become untenable. Obama at this time has to denounce someone who should have been giving him every support. Obama has integrity, judgment and vision. I will be a wholehearted supporter and voter for him in the general election.

Posted by: Kristin2 | April 29, 2008 3:50 PM

For one I'm glad Obama has come out and said enough is enough. I know everyone says he should have done it the first time and maybe he should have but being that they had the kind of relationship they've had for 20+ years, and Obama not wanting to offend the rest of the church parishoners because regardless, the worship, the word is still much bigger than any pastor who resides over a church, I just think Obama thought that Pastor Wright would have shown some humility after retiring as the Pastor, and not been so eager so soon to get "facebook" time and run him under the bus which Pastor Wright did with glee. Like any person you consider a family member or like a family member, you always want to give the person the benefit of the doubt to try and correct some of the errors of their ways and as Christians we are taught from day one to forgive those who trespass against us. But at some point just like some family members who just won't do right or show they really don't have your interest at heart at all, you have to cut the strings. Was it too late, probably not because some of us have family members or like family members we should have cut off years ago but sometimes we know how much of a cancer they can become to the family and let them linger on until it spreads and you have to gut them out of your life. Obama made the right choice and it's unfortunate that those decisions like that that we as private citizens make privately, Obama has to make in front of millions of people and have it turn into some kind of TMZ Political Special. Again, I ask when is John McCain gonna release Pastor Hagee or has the media decided it's more fun covering the African American spewing so-called hate than covering the White Pastor who's spewed more hate the past 20 years. Don't forget this same Jeremiah Wright offered Mr. Bill Clinton and his wife spiritual counseling along with others during his impeachment trial and the Monica Lewinski scandal but how conveinently that got brushed to the corner. Keep on being positive Obama, there are just some who want to continue the same ole gutter politics, the same ole Willie Horton style politics, same ole swiftboat politics to inject fear. But fear can only be injected if people's minds are weak enough to allow it.

Posted by: Reggie | April 29, 2008 3:50 PM

BYE BYE OBAMA! BYE BYE Michelle! Hey Michelle! You WILL NOT BE the "next first lady of the United States." No matter how much you lie to yourself and why would you want to be the "Next First Lady" of a country you have never been proud of? Obama and his wife sat in the pews to make it in Chi-town politics. Now, they can't get out from under the rev. Hey Obama! It's politics as usual. He does not represent change. He used poilitical expediency to get ahead before and he's doing it now. Only this time, the Rev will let us all know how Obama DID sit in the pews for those hate filled racist rants. Go Wright GO! See ya Obama! HAHAHAAAHAHAAA!

Posted by: jereamiah | April 29, 2008 3:50 PM

"Many of us have racist parents and grandparents that we love and if you think it's easy denouncing a flawed person that you love, think again. "

Yeah, because a 20 year association, by choice, is the same as being born with racist parents. Sorry, but that is just not gonna fly.
And when exactly is Obama going to denounce William Ayers and Tony Rezko, and every other sleazebag he had a close assocation with on his way to the Senate? This little speech is not going to do anything to save Obama from Wright.
Come November, the Obama-supporters on this forum better get used to the phrase "President-elect McCain"

Posted by: Stick a fork in hm; Obama's done | April 29, 2008 3:50 PM

For all of you Obama HATTERS, no matter what Obama does or does not do will never be enough for true RACIST!!!

Posted by: sam | April 29, 2008 3:49 PM

Obama wants the American people to elect him on his judgment not on his experience. However, when you seek to be President of the US and your friends include Racist American hating Bigots, Terrorist, Killers and Crooks that cast lots of doubt about your judgment. Hard working, law abiding American have a hard time understanding that or wanting to give Amnesty to 20 or 30 millions Invading criminals that is costing Americans their Money, their lives, and their jobs & their culture!

Posted by: Jeff | April 29, 2008 3:49 PM

Obama done dissed his grandmammy
and pretended we're all dumb as bricks!
Now it turns out he just a big shammy
but he'll blame it all on racist hicks!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:49 PM

These negative comments continue to help perpetuate hatred and hostility amongst us. PLEASE STOP. WHY on earth can't we see beyond this so called distraction as Senator Obama has said over and over again???
Our country economy is at stake. Stop bickering and let's work together as a nation.

United we stand divided we fall!

Posted by: S K | April 29, 2008 3:49 PM

So did Rev Wright get an Honorable or a
Dishonorable Discharge from the US Marines?
Since we all know Barack Hussein Obama just
like his distant relative VP Draft Dodger
Cheney never served a day in our US Military and so are all you koolaid drinking Obamabots crazy enough to think
Barack Hussein Obama is any more qualified
to be Commander in Chief of our Military
then Draft Dodger and The Commander Guy
Liar in Chief George W Bush now then? Since
Rev Wright maybe bitter about it,in the
event Rev Wright got a Dishonorable Discharge from the US Military and Mad at
his student Obama for changing his tune
about bringing our troops home from Iraq
as well. The point here is Barack Obama
is as big a pathological liar as George W
Bush and Draft Dodger Cheney so donot Trust
Barack Hussein Obama,period! NO To Obama.

Posted by: Claudine | April 29, 2008 3:48 PM

Look loons, this just goes to show that the history of all posts are true to form. Rgardless of the candidate, whenevr either of them makes an error, one side accpets and the other side condemns. The DEM race has been so polorizing it is pathetic. Whether it is HRC with Bill and Snipers or Barack and Wright and his Grandmom - you all come in and pile from your side of the fence.

No converts were expected from either camp - the politicis have done exactly what it is designed to do, divide you all. I am an independent, and once again - you DEMs have been puppeted and relegated to the role you will play in Nov (losers).

A Presidential election handed to you on a silver platter and you reulst to true form (again), played like the mindless fiddles you are. It is more tragic than it is funny watching from the sidelines. A gaggle of arguements over the most petty items and your comments come across like you (----) don't stink, like you and only you are better than everyone, and only your views are what matters. Which, in essence is the most anti-American sentiment you could ever utter in the land of the free.

Wrights comments were off base and his ego was bruised - so he lashed out, much like most of you here who are spewing so much crap because your candidate (fill in the blank) is not doing well. Rather than reaction to the point of the article, you want to SHOUT rant and rave about why (fill in the blank) should or should be elected and site the latest poll that was just spoon fed to you.

Posted by: Huh | April 29, 2008 3:48 PM

I am voting for Hillary Clinton, and the more the cracks show for the Big O and the O-bots the more other people will see him for the chameleon that he is, he can not be all things to all people, you have to take a stand. You cant seem to do that and your speech making leaves me cold. All I see is a talking suit. The fact that you hang with racketeers, hate-mongering ministers and a wife that isn't pround of her country well, you are not my cuppa. Go Hillary! We love you! Hang tight, the big O is falling apart... political crumb by political crumb he is a politican after all and the change he preaches is false.

Posted by: joruth2000 | April 29, 2008 3:48 PM

Too little, too late Obama. 20 years too late. Now it looks like typical political flip-flopping.

Posted by: Tanya | April 29, 2008 3:47 PM

I'm with you cs,

You guys are going to vote for McCain...fine! and you'll get exactly what you deserve- a stagnant economy, more conflict in the middle east and a growing sense of bitterness for American politics.

Hilliary- Won't even address that, she's not going to win the nomination.

Good luck you small minded Americans, you're screwed!!!!

Posted by: cathy | April 29, 2008 3:47 PM

Go Obama! We're back in business. Denver, here we come!

Posted by: Jon30307 | April 29, 2008 3:47 PM

Sen. Obama we love you know matter what. We will follow you to the end of the world. We all know the truth.

Posted by: me | April 29, 2008 3:31 PM


oh you do....please tell us..we sure not getting it from obama

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:47 PM

If AAs had to choose between Wright and Obama, I think the choice is laughably obvious.

Only one of those men will occupy the White House next January.

We choose Obama. Unless a massive revolt of superdelegates occurs (very unlikely unless Obama implodes, which he hasn't yet, and won't over this), then he's the inevitable nominee.

And McCain's skeletons are much uglier. He's the luckiest man on Earth right now. His luck won't hold out forever. It's a long way until November. Hope Cindy stocked up on Oxycodone for the ride.

Posted by: Don't Speculate About AAs if You Aren't One | April 29, 2008 3:47 PM

Michelle:

Would you be asking the same questions if McCain's mistress spoke at the National Press Club?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 3:47 PM

Obama -- "I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can disown my white grandmother"

Voters -- "We can no more believe a single word that Obama says than we can believe in Santa Claus."

Posted by: Fool me once... | April 29, 2008 3:46 PM

dylan said:
"who is this ignorant black scum OBAMA kidding??

He just found out his spiritual mentor for twenty years is a nut job??

You are despicable Obama

You & your big butted fat lipped wife who hates America should go back to Kenya & look for all the other kids your dead beat dad had & take care of them instead of running for president

YOU ARE ONE UGLY HUMAN BEING!!!"

Hillary's Pennsylvania strategy has taken hold. But I'm sure none of her supporters will "reject and denounce" these types of comments.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:46 PM

"first honest politician", "we love you no matter what"... wow. Obama supporters are something else. I bet he could stand up, call each and every one of you a "complete-moron-lowlife-out-of-touch-idiot", tell you he's really a serial killer and likes to shoot heroin in his spare time- and you would still gleefully skip to the polls to vote for him. Wow. This guy has more power than Jim Jones or Charles Manson ever dreamed they had.

Posted by: allen | April 29, 2008 3:46 PM

Fox News will be rebroadcasting Rev. Wright's speeches every hour on the hour til November.

You Americans should get to know Jonny Mac, he seems like a pretty good guy ... and your next President.

Posted by: Steve from Manitoba | April 29, 2008 3:46 PM

Words, words, and more words! We are able to see through you now. It took you 20 years of this to have this press conference? How stupid do you think we are? No more words . . . "capice?"

Go Hillary!

Posted by: Susan | April 29, 2008 3:46 PM

Meanwhile, Bush is blaming Democrats for the sorry state of the economy and urging his tax cuts, which have worked so well to mire us and are the cure for all ills (somebody please tell me what the cure for gullibility is), be made permanent. And McCain's health care plan is that we should all find and finance our own.

Posted by: Sara B. | April 29, 2008 3:45 PM

Wright is as caught in his past as Bill and Hillary are caught in theirs.

Wright was a powerful force for good on Chicago's south side, leading efforts in housing, education, and job placement. For those of us who believe a church should lead in helping the less fortunate, that would be a strong draw.

I gather a great many of the posters here don't sit in church regularly on a Sunday, so you don't appreciate that virtually all of us will routinely hear a minister say something in the midst of a lengthy sermon, and then have to decide what should be followed up.

Frankly, I assume that congregants in every religious community, even Jerry Falwell's, have the same experience.

If you are someone like Hillary, whose every action is measured by its PR value, you are careful to be photographed with every religious leader you can find, but tokeep every one at a distance, so you don't have to acknowledge their faults.

If you are Obama, you join the most dedicated group that seeks to do the most good. But of course at some point then you must decide if you have to challenge those offensive remarks.

I think his is the more fully lived life, and his sad denunciation is more honest than anything she has said this whole campaign.

Posted by: Helen | April 29, 2008 3:45 PM

Obama -- "I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can disown my white grandmother"

Voters -- "We can no more believe a single word that Obama says than we can believe in Santa Claus."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:45 PM

I am shocked at the outrage on Obama here! Just a few hours ago, you people were asking why is Obama silent, now you are all mad, mad! because Obama is mad at Wright's comments! Who are you people kidding here?

You are all bastards! Your actions have just convinced me to vote for Obama again!

We love you Sen. Obama!!!!!

Posted by: Lizzie, WV | April 29, 2008 3:45 PM

"So what did Obama learn about Wright in the last 8 weeks that he didn't know over the last 20 years?"

That Wright won't spare you his wrath even if you've been friends with him for a while and tried to run interference for him. With friends like that, who needs enemies?

Posted by: Mason | April 29, 2008 3:45 PM

Can any of you Obama bashers tell me what this has to do with affordable healthcare,getting out of Iraq or not having American jobs sent over seas? please give me the connection. Let me know why I should really give a flying fukk about someones former pastors remarks. especially when I can barely makes end meet and gas is $4 a gallon. make the connection for me please!!

Posted by: Truth! | April 29, 2008 3:44 PM

I am sick of all of you quite frankly. You just demonstrate how much hatred people have. You take what some else says as the truth.. How many of you would what to be held responsible for what another person says? When the party is broken and no body gets a piece of the pie, then I guess you all will be satisfied! Look forward to that, because that's your future. You screwed up in 2000, 2004 and now!

Posted by: CS | April 29, 2008 3:44 PM

sequoia:

Is it "acceptable" to you to question Obama's vaunted judgment on this issue at least?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:44 PM

The Wright-wing attack on Obama's campaign has been executed with a precision that must make Karl Rove downright envious! (If he did NOT coordinate it.)

A well-structured national publicity campaign like the anti-Obama project that is so-effectively utilizing Wright is NOT suddenly created by random whim. Think about it:

1. What does it take to get someone booked for a highly-desirable, much-sought, hard-to-get, nationally-aired Bill Moyers interview?

2. What sort of organizational contacts and advance planning does it take to get scheduled as the lead speaker at an NAACP convention attended by 2,000 people?

3. How much media clout does it take to get multiple members of the media (at least the two Wright called by name from CNN) to join a publicity-seeker on a flight to Washington DC?

3. How much lead-time and contacts are required to get someone booked as a speaker before the National Press Club in Washington DC?
Did the organizers simply rent the Press Club room, or was it sponsored by the Press Club?

4. How much more coordination is needed to line-up a cadre of enthusiastic Ahmen-shouting supporters to attend that Press Club talk, where seating is always limited?

5. Even more important - who has the connections and clout to make ALL of that happen within three days of each other?! And so carefully for crucial state primaries?

6. And finally, who can FINANCE such nontrivial coordination, book multiple flights, hotels, etc., for the mouthpiece AND his press entourage, AND line-up his cheering section that we heard at the Press Club?


Is a retired minister for a black church in Chicago likely to have all those connections, spare cash, and clout - to organize all of that into a 3-day sequence timed for crucial primaries? NOT likely!

So ... who has the most to gain AND has exactly that kind of cash, contacts and organizational expertise?

Posted by: Michelle | April 29, 2008 3:44 PM

Many people are intolerant of a canditate who actually thoughtfully processes as he goes--unlike HRC and JMcC who made up their lies, rehearsed them for years, and are sticking to them no matter what. How refreshing to have a person who messes up, even tells a situation in a few different ways and still takes responsibility for trying not to do the politically expedient thing. All that is pure, including being exposed by vulnerable issues is expressed by BO. That is why he has my vote--he is not an inhuman robot who is lying through his/her teeth to convinvce you that their heart bleeds for people they laugh at and take advantage of just to win.

Posted by: aghast | April 29, 2008 3:44 PM

oh my gosh....
A BIG FAT liar, liar pants on fire. "I, uh, uh,uh...ya know...it's ahh,uh...
Get off the stage! Take some acting lessons so you can properly morph into the "effective" liar you'll need to become in order to hoodwink naive voters. Biggest phony politician ever...unbelievable! My phonyaxx meter went off the charts on this Act.


Posted by: jordan77 | April 29, 2008 3:15 PM

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
I can only imagine which lying phony politician you back? McCain? Bill Clinton? Hillary? Or please don't tell me, Bush?

Posted by: Terry | April 29, 2008 3:44 PM

If HRC is the nominee, boy oh boy, get ready for a complete rehash of Whitewater, Travel Office, Vince Foster, Gennifer, Paula, Monica (and every other who-zer-name), Futures trading blah blah blah....

What irks me about all this "Rev. Wright" hand-wringing is that here you've got one figure - a religious - who free to wax religious, political, controversial, whatever, and you've got another figure - a politician - trying to mesh his beliefs with policy and being held accountable for the words of the other. The parallels to the criticism that other non-WASPy politicians have endured are pretty stark.

JFK, answerable to the Vatican as opposed to the people for official actions? (He may have had a lot of things to answer to the Vatican for, but his official actions they ain't) Mitt Romney even, with all the early concern about taking dictates from Salt Lake City. (Well, you could imagine what he'd have to answer for nowadays with this Texas ranch fiasco).

Watch out Barack, next thing you know, you're gonna be denied communion like John Kerry and Rudy Guiliani. I guess the only way to be non-hypocritical as a presidential candidate is to be white, Anglo-Saxon and Presbyterian.

Posted by: Some White Dude | April 29, 2008 3:43 PM

I am with you Obama, from the beginning to the end. And look, you are going to CONTINUE TO HAVE HATERS!!!! Keep on doing the right thing....SWITCH THE STYLE UP AND IF THEY HATE THEN LET THEM HATE. BILLIARY IS BEHIND ALL OF THIS BARACK. YOU SEE HER GIRL BY THE REV???? DID YOU SEE HER...

Posted by: Barbara, Texas | April 29, 2008 3:43 PM

whatever

this is not what this election is about unless we allow it to be. Clinton and McCain want this to be the focus and not the war and the economy.

stop the madness.

Posted by: bill | April 29, 2008 3:43 PM

Please have some pride don't pretend operation whatever has any effect. Did you find that Rush stopped Mac. No, his effect on this elections was the same as war in Nam.

You sound like stupid s**ts with no brain.

Obama the truth hurts as the cultist you to say before this weekend. (paster man could say what every he wanted but when he called you a pol that was too much. HRC has some pride at least)

that is all.

Obambi was always the weaker candidate.

Posted by: mul | April 29, 2008 3:43 PM

I'll take a guy with a controversial pastor anytime over a woman who's husband was impeached and almost destroyed the office of the presidency. What a joke!

Posted by: cathy | April 29, 2008 3:43 PM

I guess we are even...I cant see how staying married to a man who publically humiliated her and their daughter is good judgement...

Posted by: Becky | April 29, 2008 3:42 PM

Barack Obama is still a member of Trinity.

HE HAS NOT removed himself or his family from the congregation.


Posted by: John | April 29, 2008 3:42 PM

"I was always against the Iraq war."

"The person that I saw yesterday was not the person that I had come to know over 20 years."

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 3:42 PM


Why is it that there are so many who aren't able to figure out how to post a negative comment without injecting hate?

Its possible to disagree without making it a hostile attack. Its actually interesting, even fun to debate without a fight.

This stuff is making all of us ugly.

Posted by: mishte | April 29, 2008 3:42 PM

Obama -- "I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can disown my white grandmother"

Voters -- "We can no more believe a single word that Obama says than we can believe in Santa Claus."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:42 PM

Dylan said:"who is this ignorant black scum OBAMA kidding??"

Yeah... No racist tendancies on this one. None at all.

Oh, wait.

"You & your _big butted fat lipped_ wife who hates America should go back to Kenya & look for all the other kids your dead beat dad had & take care of them instead of running for president"

Posted by: Mason | April 29, 2008 3:42 PM


I am laughing my butt off at the pathologically obsessed Obama bashers - who in their clear desperation - need to pretend some dumb comments by some retired pastor are THE campaign issue of '08.

Here's a hint as Obama continues to lead Hillary and McCain nationally and pull away from Hillary in the delegate count:

To bring Obama down, maybe you should focus on actions of comments...you know...ACTUALLY DONE OR SAID BY OBAMA.

Just a thought. Maybe you'll have a chance then. Until then, keep raving like loons all you want. I think it's funny!

Posted by: sequoia | April 29, 2008 3:41 PM

After reading earlier that Wright "warned" Obama that if he is elected, Wright will come after him because he will be representing the government responsible for the policies against which Wright rails, I really have to wonder if this wasn't staged.

Posted by: Kevin | April 29, 2008 3:41 PM

Do you think Rush gets his narcotics from the same place that Cindy McBush gets hers?

Posted by: Beka | April 29, 2008 3:41 PM

Dylan

Take your racially charge undertones somewhere else idiot!

Posted by: cathy | April 29, 2008 3:40 PM

Hahahahahahaha. Absolutely pathetic. Only now is Obama claiming what this guy says is beyond the pale when he realizes his campaign is being absolutely destroyed. Too little, too late. Why didn't he denounce him like this during his supposedly brilliant speech on race weeks ago? And if the commenters on this article actually believe that Wright just started saying this kind of crap within the past week, and Obama wasn't aware of his ideological "proclivities" for 20 years, they are idiots, almost as stupid as Obama for believing this ridiculous denunciation is worth anything to anybody besides people that support him already.
Obama will be going the way of McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis and Kerry come November.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:40 PM

This is getting old.

It's obvious Obama knew Wright believed this stuff all along. Why else did he not let Wright on stage when Obama announced his candidacy (although Wright disclosed yesterday that he was in the basement praying with the family beforehand).

Let's play a game. How many ways can Obama pretend he hasn't been indoctrinated in this garbage for 20 years?

Somebody convince Obama to drop out now and at least give the Dems a chance in November.

Posted by: John | April 29, 2008 3:40 PM

one more time:

Obama said at his press conference, ""The person that I saw yesterday was not the person that I had come to know over 20 years." I see a big problem for a guy who is claiming his judgment is what makes him fit for the presidency.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:39 PM

I am calling on the nation body of believers to comdemn Jeremiah comments on Obama in any form. Pastors, priest, spirtual leaders are supposed to respect confessions when members of their faith confide in them. A priest cannot go on national television and start sharing what he heard in confession sessions, that is outrageous on the part of Reverend Wright to say anything personal at all about a member of his faith. I don't see any member of any faith amazed by this. The man is way out of line in the eyes of believers. It is no longer Obama concern, it should be a concern of any person of faith.

Posted by: Oh No | April 29, 2008 3:39 PM

Obama is bedeviled and humiliated by his own minister of 20 years. He can't influence the guy. He takes weeks to uncork "strong language" that's totally ineffectual. And this novice has pretenses of changing the nature of America's political culture, executing a successful withdrawal from Iraq, reforming the economy and dealing effectively with strong minded world leaders. He can't even the modify the behavior of church pastor and is reduced to milque toast criticism that he increases only in response to political pressure. How did he ever become a front runner? Thanks goodness there's still time to get Clinton on the ticket.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:39 PM

IMHO, Obama should have left Wright's church before he started his campaign for the presidency.

Barring that, he should have left after the clips from Wright's sermons were revealed. What did he do? He made a very nice speech about race relations in the US, but he took no action.

Now, following Wright's press conference, Obama claims that he's "outraged" and "saddened," but again has taken no positive action to distance himself from Wright and his church.

It's all over for Obama, and I feel justified in having voted for Hillary in the primary.

Posted by: Frank Gerber | April 29, 2008 3:39 PM

[bold]God d*** America![/bold]

Posted by: Reverend Wright | April 29, 2008 3:39 PM

COL.[retd] A.M.Khajawall:

Hey, Colonel Camel, why don't you go take some English classes and stay out of our politics? Your Baracki will never be president. His clothes finally fell off today and what's left is too shocking for primetime!

Posted by: Obama Who? | April 29, 2008 3:39 PM

Give it a rest folks, Senator Obama can not and do not controll what people have to say. Reverand Wright picked the wrong time and venue to have his media frenzy. He is doing exactly what the opposition wants him to do. WHY? Inquiring minds want to know. I wish the best of everything for Obama and I am definitely in his corner and he has my utmost respect and support. ON WITH IT SENATOR OBAMA''''

Posted by: Carolyn | April 29, 2008 3:39 PM

"Barack is false hope-- Barack is like any other politician. Barack's advertising campaign just crumbled. You ain't hope.. you're just like Hillary. I hope she eats his lunch on the O'Reilly Factor"

...because you are a true democrat. STFD!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:39 PM

Wright threw Obama under the bus...

It's a mess for Obama but I think his campaign will recover.

November is a long time from now, memories are short.

Obama is still the best candidate, hands down.

Posted by: cathy | April 29, 2008 3:39 PM

Sorry, Obama. You made your bed, now you have to sleep in it. It is very sad, but your chickens have now come home to roost. Your pastor, mentor, "friend" has thrown YOU under the bus. I guess black liberation theology doesn't include loyalty. Sad, but that's the way it is. Live and learn.

Posted by: D. Rodriguez | April 29, 2008 3:39 PM

So what did Obama learn about Wright in the last 8 weeks that he didn't know over the last 20 years?

Posted by: cab91 | April 29, 2008 3:38 PM

Iowatreasures --

I think the AA's will need to go to AA.

STEP 1 IS ADMITTING OBAMA HAS A PROBLEM TELLING THE TRUTH, AND THAT HIS STATUS HAS BECOME UNELECTABLE

Posted by: STEP 1 IS ADMITTING OBAMA HAS A PROBLEM TELLING THE TRUTH | April 29, 2008 3:38 PM

"I was always against the Iraq war."

"The person that I saw yesterday was not the person that I had come to know over 20 years."

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 3:38 PM

Of course BHO threw Wright under the bus. Dude spent all weekend dissing him like Stevenson dissed LeBron. We've seen how that's turned out. This is no different.

Posted by: Mason | April 29, 2008 3:38 PM

The Obamessiah is in fact subject to the laws of political gravity and the Obamaniacs are not taking it well.

Posted by: citizenjane | April 29, 2008 3:38 PM

Wow!!! The republicans on this site are truly pissed the H**L off...wasn't expecting Obama to throw this man back under the bus? Was ya?!!! Ha! Now the vetting has been done and it's over...The Repubs don't have anything else or anything new to throw out there to the gutter dwellers....Now let's start the vetting on Hillary and McCain...How's about them library donors and those 2007 returns Mrs. Clinton....How's about that rich wife's income Mr. McCain and that private jet that you and your lobbyist campaign managers have been flying around in? Oh and by the way, let's vet Mr. McCain's pastor, Mr. Hagee and Parsley, who stated that how much they hated the Catholic Church and how the Katrina victims got what they deserved.....what hypocrocy......The irony is that a lot of McCain's supporters are those very catholics that his pastor hates. LMAO....Why don't the news media get off the black candidate's back and start proper vetting of all of the candidates...Oh, by the way, NEWS FLASH...OBAMA HAS JUST PICKED UP TWO SUPERDELEGATES TODAY...EVEN IN THE MIDST OF THIS FOOLISHNESS....THAT IS 7 NEW SUPERS SINCE HIS LOSS IN PENNSYLVANIA...HOT DARN!!!! WHO SAID THIS MAN WON'T GET NOMINATED...NOUGH SAID!!

OBAMA '08 WE LOVE YA!!!

Posted by: JORDAN77 | April 29, 2008 3:38 PM

Given this news, Junkie Rush Limbaugh has stepped up plans to have a million redneck dittoheads riot in Denver this August.

Posted by: Tom3 | April 29, 2008 3:37 PM

The ultra-left-wing apologists have been called out to defend the indefensible: hussein's devotion to the racist hate-monger "uncle" jeremiah. And now we get some more half-hearted, insincere denials from hussein.

Many Democrats simply do not want the party to make the same mistake twice by nominating another Kerry-like shallow, arrogant, platitude-spouting, gas-bag - who is so mentally deficient from extensive drug use he even has to plagiarize his hollow platitudes!.

Thanks to "uncle" jeremiah, the true nature of hussein has finally been revealed. For nearly twenty years hussein has been the disciple and avid follower and supporter of this racial bigot. hussein has publicly praised wright on numerous occasions. hussein gave wright's church $26,000 in 2007, plus many thousands more previously. wright's vile, bigoted harangues against America, in general, and white Americans, in particular, illustrate the true foundation of hussein and the "church" of which he is a devout member. The foundation of hussein is racial division and strife - not unity. If it were not for the thin veneer of whitewash slapped on him by his handlers, I would expect him to adopt wright's "God Da'mn America" as his theme song. hussein is clearly an outrageously unacceptable candidate for any elected office or position of responsibility in America.

One thing is certain: millions of Dems will leave the party if Tony Rezko's sleazy-deal partner is nominated.

Posted by: ALEX H. | April 29, 2008 3:37 PM

Just to clarify, Rush Limbaugh did order an operational pause on Operation Chaos. He said, however, that Republican voters in upcoming primaries should continue to register as Democrats in preparation for voting for Hillary.

Posted by: Karl | April 29, 2008 3:37 PM

Upwards it was Hillary Clinton supporter who arranged it...Barbara Reynolds...Maybe we should set Bill up with a young intern to get even...OH YEA HE ALREADY DID THAT!!!

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/04/29/2008-04-29_is_jeremiah_wright_a_colossal_disaster_f-2.html

Posted by: Beka | April 29, 2008 3:36 PM

Hello--

John "I don't understand economics" McCain actively sought the endorsement of Minister Hagee, who has said things that are just as radical (if not more) than the things this Wright guy said. But no one calls him on that. No one calls him on his crazy policy ideas either. Not saying people can't have an opinion on Obama, Clinton, or anyone else. Just don't be naive and think that any of them are squeaky clean.

John McCain was one of the "Keating Five," and helped to cheat hard-working Americans out of their money through fraud. How is that not relevant, but something that Obama's (clearly out of touch) pastor said?

We all know some people who say crazy things. Politicians are no different.

Posted by: Mike | April 29, 2008 3:36 PM

Obama's "outrage" at Wright's comments are the diametric opposite of the reaction at the reverend's receptions at his speeches these past few days. Wonder if Obama would include all those in the audiences who gave the reverend enthusiastic applause and standing ovations. Hypocrisy at its worst.

Posted by: Bill T. | April 29, 2008 3:36 PM

Many Democrats are still in denial that the Black racism is just as disgusting as White racism. Obama should use this opportunity to point that out, since he wants to be a uniter, and not a divider like Hillary.

Posted by: bodo | April 29, 2008 3:36 PM

upwards:

Would you be similarly upset if one of McCain's mistresses was "allowed" to speak at the National Press Club?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 3:36 PM

I am just wondering how Obama's newest speech helps with his campaign.

People keep saying that the Trinity Church has as many white members as black, - that is true in the total Christian Church, but not in that particular congregation.

With Obama lambasting Rev. Wright now rather than supporting Rev. Wright - how is the congregation of the Trinity, and as well, black people in other churches going to view Obama now?

In other words, are the AA people going to be more loyal to Rev. Wright or to Obama?
gw.

Posted by: Iowatreasures | April 29, 2008 3:36 PM

Wright obviously purposely brought up several controversial snippet points so Obama would have a solid reason to come out and denounce him. But it was planned, agreed upon and simply a campaign strategy.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:35 PM

I know I've had it with this victimology mindset. While China and India are racing past us in almost every category of education and work, after a century and a half of freedom we are still hearing this incessant whining about "why don't you like me more?" Well the reason is that no one, absolutely no one likes whining especially from grown adults. Get the best education you can (don't whine because it isn't handed to you on a tray, read good books, jump online and search for everything important you can locate to read), get the best job you can, and if you can't find one, create one - become an entrepreneur. Just stop this incessant "oh me/poor me" whining that I've heard for over 50 years. Enough is quite enough. I doubt China will care about how think you don't get a fair shake when they own us lock, stock and barrel, so get moving, there's work to be done.

Posted by: cb1231 | April 29, 2008 3:35 PM

Obama: "I'm shocked, shocked, to find out that gambling is going on in his church."

Obama Supporters: "Here are your winning's Mr. Obama..."

Voters -- "this is the end of a not so beautiful friendship"

Posted by: Obama is "shocked, shocked" | April 29, 2008 3:35 PM

jacade-impeached = accused, not convicted. The ex-president was cleared. Then the cockroaches who filed articles of impeachment blended back into the woodwork.

Posted by: Jeff | April 29, 2008 3:35 PM

People, Wake up!!!!!!!!!! Your pastor doesn't have to be your spiritual advisor!

How many people ut there (white or black) have heard their pastors say nasty things??

I love Obama... and I will vote for him.
OBAMA08!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:35 PM

I made you, I'll take you out!!! That's Wright's position. I love it!!! Obama HUSSIEN sat in the pews and ate up Wright's crap to make it in Chicago politics. Now, to make it in national politics, Obama has to throw the 'ole Rev under the bus. But Suprise, Suprise!!! The Rev has different ideas. He struck 1st!! He wants his 15 minutes. The guy showed Obama what poitics is really all about. I love it!!! HAHAAAHAAAA

Posted by: jereamiah | April 29, 2008 3:34 PM

Obama -

GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!!!!

and

IT'S ABOUT FRIGGIN' TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: treetopflyer | April 29, 2008 3:34 PM

Who of us could withstand intense scrutiny of all of our acquaintances and good friends if all their faults were attributed to ourselves? My friends and associates have their faults, and I disagree with many of their views on many issues of race, religion, politics and even the morality of certain choices. However, I am not guilty by association because I choose to interact with people who don't agree with me on everything I believe in. Before people declare Obama to be two-faced, they should take a hard look at their family, friends, and other relationships and ask if they would stand behind every statement those people have said or would say, if given a platform.

Posted by: Shannon | April 29, 2008 3:34 PM

Sen. Obama we love you know matter what. We will follow you to the end of the world. We all know the truth.

Posted by: me | April 29, 2008 3:31 PM
_______________
Pathetic! Here's another victim. Quick, somebody get me the koolaid pump so I can save this one!

Posted by: Obama Who? | April 29, 2008 3:34 PM

The truth is, all the people who were going to vote for Obama will still vote for him anyway. All you bigots who needed an excuse (like JakeD D must stand for dyck or the fact that you lack one you racist coward) weren't going to vote for him anyway. Me myself all I know is I'm getting killed in health care costs. and Obama is the only candidate that is even mentioning lowering the cost of health care. Hillary is just saying everyone will be covered. but at the expense of who? find out who helped pay for that Clinton library and you'll see it was Pharmecutical compines and the Health Care insurance lobbiest. And McCain doesn't know or give a shyt about health care because he's two years younger than Moses. And will die soon anyway. So Barack Hussein Obama (I mentioned his middle name because a-hole JakeD insinuates that in a country that prides itself on being a melting pot Hussein is some how some sort of badge of shame to have as a name. Wait till his Mom and daughter are swallowing semen from someone name Hussein) Is the one for me. TO hell with Wright to hell with thinking that a guy running for president really wants to take the country down any further than GW Bush already has. the facts are I have to vote despite race or religion. I have to vote based on who has my main concern at hand. and it is Obama. And all you numb nuts conspiracy theorist need to check out where your candidates really stand on the things that DIRECTLY effect your lives and the lives of your family. Because someone Present or Former Pastor does not!!

Posted by: Truth! | April 29, 2008 3:34 PM

praying in the basement before annoucing his candidacy shows Barak knows exactly who Rev Wright is.

This late "shocked" reaction is purely political posturing, necessary if you still want to be elected.

Just how aware was Barak that Wright wanted to influence America thru him:

"I'll be in your Office on November 5 if you win the election....."

uh oh

Posted by: lucci8 | April 29, 2008 3:34 PM

Posted by: Mike Meyer:

Obama said at his press conference, ""The person that I saw yesterday was not the person that I had come to know over 20 years." I see a big problem for a guy who is claiming his judgment is what makes him fit for the presidency.

Exactly. If Hillary starts making inroads on this, we may have to start voting FOR Barack in the remaining primaries ; )

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 3:33 PM

NOW HILLARY HAS TO DENOUNCE HER ALBATROSS...BILL CLINTON!!!

Posted by: Beka | April 29, 2008 3:33 PM

Yes, why DID the National Press Club have Wright in to speak? They are guilty of pouring flame on politics, Very indiscreet decision.

Meanwhile, all the McCain backers and racists are dancing up and down with glee.

Don't worry-- McCain has a hundred skeletons in his closet...

Posted by: upwards | April 29, 2008 3:32 PM

I would say Mr. Obama's chickens have come home to roost.

Posted by: Chazz | April 29, 2008 3:32 PM

Sen. Obama did what he had to do. An astute observer could see in his eyes and body language that this decision pained him. I am happier to see him do this than the speech on race in Philadelphia.

Before I think most people felt that he was trying to have it both ways. In the Philadelphia speech, he was clearly too polite to throw Wright under the bus, and reluctant to cut sentimental ties.

Now, in light of Wright's decision to do the same, I think Sen. Obama has seen the light, that a clear cut "divorce" from this man was necessary. A gutsy, painful, but politically necessary move.

The question is, is it enough to put the issue to rest? I believe so. I, for one, am ready to move on and get to the issues that effect me everyday, like gas and food prices.

Posted by: Good Move Obama | April 29, 2008 3:32 PM

Staged, timed, planned and sad.

Posted by: | April 29, 2008 3:28 PM
-----------------------------------------

Very. gw.

Posted by: Iowatreasures | April 29, 2008 3:32 PM

Dear Fellow Americans,

Our Great-grand Nation, the United States of America
is and will face very critical "Challenges" in coming
years and decades.

The Problems will be tough and solutions would not
easy.

The key will the cool, calm, and collectedness of our
next President[ What I call Presidential Temperament'
The one remaining candidate who has consistently that
Presidential Temperament is Senator Obama.

His message of change makes sense. We have to stop
doing business in Washington old ways. The new ways of
lifting each other up and stopping tearing each other
down will not held our Great grand Nation. The
Terrorists around the world[real] and inadvertently
assisted by some shortsighted media [Who are party to
this perpetuation of psychological terrorism of
mis-information, dis-information, and duplicity], that
is what we do not need.

In order to send the message around the world that
America is get Senator Obama our next president. At
least on thing he has shown consistently is the
presidential Temperament. The Temperament of our next
president is very critical address internal and
internal challenges. Let us defeat real external
terrorists snd internal psychological terrorists once
for all.

God Bless out Great grand Nation, its diverse people,
and Senator Obama. He is the ans her to our future
stability, security, safety, and regain our status in the world. Wright is wrong and senator is right. I applaud him for maintaing Presidential Temperament during current primary process.

Yours truly,

COL.[retd] A.M.Khajawall
Disables American Veteran.
Las Vegas Nevada.

Posted by: COL.[retd]A.M.Khajawall | April 29, 2008 3:32 PM

What to believe?

Don't know!

Posted by: Independent | April 29, 2008 3:31 PM

I was just thinking the Rev was pretty funny, why couldn't Obama have just said 'I love the guy, but I have to completely disagree with him' I think it makes Obama look like a turncoat.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:31 PM

Sen. Obama we love you know matter what. We will follow you to the end of the world. We all know the truth.

Posted by: me | April 29, 2008 3:31 PM

I love this man! He is the first honest politian to emerge in my lifetime. The republicans have had 8 years to prove themselves - and what did they do??? Screwed everything up. Hillary can play their games - but has she even once said she will not take lobbyists money for her campaign - NO. Hillary would be better than McCain - but no where near as progressive and forward thinking as Obama.

Posted by: JP | April 29, 2008 3:31 PM

Gee, Carl Rove suggests that Obama distance himself from Wright, and the next day he is "outraged". Where was all this "outrage" at Wright last month? LOL that Obama is mad at the suggestion that he was "politically posturing". Uhh, you were. You are.

Posted by: allen | April 29, 2008 3:30 PM

I was noticing just now that Barack Obama said on cable news that "he is not my spiritual advisor - he was my pastor."

That seems at odds with his previous statement that Rev. Wright is the one who brought him to believe in Jesus.

Just saying . . . gw.

Posted by: Iowatreasures | April 29, 2008 3:30 PM

Eileen:

What if Obama, before running for President, agreed with Wright's "sick sermons"? What if Obama STILL agrees and is simply lying about it? None of that would matter to you?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 3:29 PM

Obama didnt know this man for twenty years? Who will believe that?

Posted by: Gretchen Pollhimmus | April 29, 2008 3:28 PM

Staged, timed, planned and sad.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:28 PM

Never mind Obama, he's trying to get elected. I'd like to hear the leaders of the black community sound in on this. How about Oprah, for instance, who attended the same church and with the same pastor? How generalized are these views, and wouldn't this be the right time to weigh in?

Posted by: malafry | April 29, 2008 3:28 PM

The worst part of this whole affair is that we have not seen the worst of it. We will become intimately familiar with Reverend Wright and his sermons during the general election in spite of what Mr. McCain says. Unfortunately, this one literally has feet of its own.

Posted by: Pete in DC | April 29, 2008 3:27 PM

Obama said at his press conference, ""The person that I saw yesterday was not the person that I had come to know over 20 years." I see a big problem for a guy who is claiming his judgment is what makes him fit for the presidency.

Posted by: Mike Meyer | April 29, 2008 3:27 PM

I don't believe a single word of it. Not one syllable. Obama is the ultimate phony politician. That great whooshing sound is his campaign deflating.

Posted by: H Jung | April 29, 2008 3:27 PM

Afternoon polls show Clinton gaining a lot of ground in North Carolina and closing in on Obama's lead. SHe is also ahead in Indiana. Full roundup: http://www.campaigndiaries.com/2008/04/more-polls-clinton-continues-to-gain.html

Posted by: Dan | April 29, 2008 3:27 PM


We all recognize a staged campaign strategy. What is irritating is they think they can fool us.

Elitists

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:27 PM

if obama ever disowns this Rev wright...does that mean he would disown his grandmother too?

Posted by: lucygirl1 | April 29, 2008 3:27 PM

satchnthesaint:

Since you've brought up healthcare on several threads now, are you including the healthy 20-year old college student who CHOOSES to buy an iPhone rather than pay for a year of health insurance as someone who "can't afford it"? Why stop at health insurance then? Some people rent because the "can't afford" to purchase a home. Are free homes next? Cars? iPhones?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 3:26 PM

There is always someone waiting to ride the coat tails of some one and this person is loving every moment he can get to draw attention to his sick sermons. What makes me even more sick is that he abuses the trust many of his church people and African Americans alike had in him. WHY OR HOW DID THE PRESS CLUB HAVE HIM ADRESS THEM ??This guy reminds me of the McCarthy era. Why is he given a stage for his sick spewing. I think the men in white coats need to hurry and take him where he needs to be. My heart aches for the Obamas whose trust he has betrayed.

Posted by: Eileen | April 29, 2008 3:26 PM

...meanwhile in ACTUAL campaign news, Obama leads Clinton 7-3 in declared superdelegates since PA.

Ha Ha.

Posted by: sequoia | April 29, 2008 3:22 PM
_____________
A lot of good that will do him if nobody votes for him! Those superdelegates that keep trying to prop him up better hope they are not up for reelection anytime soon. We won't forget!

Posted by: Ha Ha Yourself | April 29, 2008 3:26 PM

This ranks right up there with, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky". A politician does what a politician has to do.

Posted by: CS | April 29, 2008 3:26 PM

The person Senator Obama "met 20 years ago" traveled to Libya in the company of Louis Farrakhan for an audience with Quadaffi. At the time, Libya was branded a terrorist state.

Posted by: goaway | April 29, 2008 3:26 PM

I thought some of these GOP and HRC losers used to say that Barrack Hussein Obama was a muslim. Now they are telling us and rightfully confirming to us that Obama has been going to Rev Wright's church for 20 years. I have never seen a muslim who has attended church services for 20years not even one.metamorphosis of the right wing and HRC diehards

Posted by: IwillVoteForOBAMA200820012 | April 29, 2008 3:25 PM

Rory is right about Wright and Obama.

Posted by: Bob C | April 29, 2008 3:25 PM

It seems that Barack Obama is finding out, firsthand and personally, that it isn't that easy to "unite" people and provide "hope" for people.

Sometimes it takes the hand of experience to unite and provide hope - not just rhetoric and charisma - but real experience and