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For Obama, Wright the Latest in a Long Line of Tests


Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright addresses a breakfast gathering at the National Press Club in Washington, April 28, 2008. (Associated Press)

By Dan Balz
The testing of Barack Obama continues. The Illinois senator has been on a month-long slide of bad news, poor performances and self-inflicted wounds. Still the favorite to win the Democratic nomination, Obama nonetheless needs a pair of victories next week in Indiana and North Carolina to kick-start his candidacy.

The last thing Obama should want is to back into the nomination. He can do that by winning those states where the demographics favor him -- North Carolina and Oregon, for example -- and by playing the numbers game in the other states by assuming a respectable showing will prevent Hillary Clinton from overtaking him in the battle for pledged delegates.

The math has favored him since the end of February, when he ran off 11 straight victories and built a lead in pledged delegates that, because of the Democratic rules, make it virtually impossible for Clinton to overcome. At that point, Obama was more than ready for the race to end.

His description of the race in late February offered an insight into his own thinking. The Democratic campaign, he said, was like a great movie that had gone on about half an hour too long. It was clear even before Ohio and Texas that he was mentally ready to turn the page, to begin thinking about a general election race, to put combat with Clinton behind him.

Since then there has been little but trouble for Obama. He narrowly lost the popular vote in Texas, lost the Ohio primary decisively and then easily won Mississippi. Then came the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's "bitter" comments, a grueling debate in Philadelphia and a loss in Pennsylvania. March and April undid some of what January and February instilled in his candidacy.

The latest test for Obama is the reappearance of Wright, who is on a publicity tour designed to fight back against the impressions left from the snippets of his sermons that he is unpatriotic, anti-American, racist or, as he put it in his interview with Bill Moyers, quoting from the New York Times, a "whackadoodle."

Wright's speaking tour was clearly not authorized, sanctioned or prepped by the Obama campaign. Wright is speaking for himself, not for Obama, defending the traditions of the black church, which he sees as totally misunderstood by white America, and his own reputation. He has been dismissive of Obama -- describing him pejoratively as a politician who distanced himself from his pastor merely for political reasons.

For now, Wright has stolen the spotlight from Obama, injecting himself into the presidential campaign at a moment when Obama needs to be able to focus his message on those white working-class voters in Indiana who will help decide the outcome of the primary next Tuesday.

Obama is under conflicting pressures as he heads into the final week of campaigning in North Carolina and Indiana. He talked about the need to work even harder to reach out to blue-collar voters and for them to get to know him. "I am less familiar with some of these blue-collar voters than [Clinton]," he said on Fox News Sunday.

He acknowledged he has considerable work to do to bridge the gap. "I've got to be more present. I've got to be knocking on more doors. I've got to be hitting more events. We've got to work harder."

But can he do that with the Rev. Wright drawing so much attention? It's not likely he can overcome the media attention now riveted on his former pastor. For Obama, the reappearance of the Rev. Wright comes at just the wrong moment -- stealing time and attention Obama needs for himself, reminding superdelegates that, despite Obama's eloquent speech about race in America, the controversy likely will be a part of any general election campaign.

There are no easy answers for Obama at this point. Successful candidates fight through adversity. Clinton has demonstrated that at various points this spring, scoring electoral victories when defeat would have driven her from the race. The same, however, can be said for Obama, whose victory in Iowa may have been the most important of the entire Democratic race. He showed it again in South Carolina, not just by winning but by overwhelming Clinton at a time when racial politics were at the boiling point.

What he needs now is the passion to go with his patience. He has long maintained his own rhythm and pace. Early in the campaign, he stayed cool when some Democrats were rattled by his inability to move the polls. That instinct served him well. He believes now that he will be the nominee -- and that is still the most likely outcome.

But in the closing weeks of the primaries, he is facing among the most difficult challenges yet in his campaign. Clinton is providing the ultimate test -- a vigorous and capable opponent who refuses to go quietly. Rev. Wright offers a different test -- a controversial mentor who has an agenda other than to help elect his younger parishioner. The voters provide still another test.

How Obama responds will determine the endgame of the Democratic nomination battle and, if he prevails as expected, what kind of candidate the Democrats will have to stand against John McCain in November.

By Web Politics Editor  |  April 28, 2008; 12:23 PM ET
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OBAMA IS OUR MAN Ok, so he has disowned Wright but who in their right mind wouldn't? I admire Obama though for giving his pastor of 20 years the benefit and not severing their relationship until Wright eluded to Obama merely pandering. It's like a couple married for 5, 10, 15 20 plus years and then divorcing. Even though you've had a long relationship, they may not be the same person you married so many years ago. You awake one day and say that's enough. Something causes that final riff and you got to go your separate ways. Obama & Michelle were never regular church-goers, ever. They were members like so many others but certainly weren't sitting in the pews every Sunday. I've no doubt that Wright's monkey shines Monday were a shock to Obama. He's got the biggest hill of all to claim because he has to fight off Hillary, McCain, Wright, right-wing radio and TV news shows that hammer the story for all it's worth. The coordinator of the press conference for Rev. Wright is a black woman and a Hillary supporter who vehemently hates Obama. So he even has agents of Hillary's and McCain nipping at his heels at every opportunity. We'll get to see just how tough he is, how much tenacity he has, how much audacity he can muscle. I still think he can pull it off, but he's got to hit the pavement running 180 mph non-stop, keeping on message, talking about his plans to improve the economy, improve healthcare, help end racial divisiveness and most of all end this stupid, pointless war. Hillary said she'll start moving folks home 60 days after she's elected but that's a lie. President or not she can't just pick a day outta of blue and say "alrighty let's bring everybody home now". Obama's resolution is much more realistic because he's not trying to put Iraq aka humpty dumpty back together again. He wants to do just enough to shore things up so we can start to ship people out. It wasn't a perfect country when we got there so why are we aiming for perfection now? And McCain wants to stay there another 50 to 100 years. Let's face it, anything with overtones of war, guns, blood and guts is a win for McCain. Hillary & McCain are two old, tired politicians who will take us down that worn out, old been-there-done-that-and-it-doesn't-work road again and again. OBAMA 2008 & 2012. GO OBAMA

Posted by: Sherria | April 29, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Clinton is vigorous and capable ? Why does she get a free pass on Bosnia, which came out of her own mouth and Obama has to speak for his retired pastor ? This is utter nonsense and there is a disturbing lynch mob piling on gleeful mentality here.

Posted by: vbalfour | April 29, 2008 7:41 AM | Report abuse

Commit suicide if you went to school with a criminal
commit suicide if the local bar man where you drink happens to sell
commit suicide if you have attended a party and one guy in party is convict
commit suicide if one of your teachers has not paid tax
commit suicide if your bishop has abused a child

Basically always demand for a cv of all people you intend to meet even in the local gym or funeral

if you don't then you are as guilty as Obama for meeting wrong people.

Don't read my comments too before I post my criminal record!!!

Posted by: people we meet | April 29, 2008 4:58 AM | Report abuse

Rev. Wright does not seem to be cowed by the media "Empire" or what they could potentially "Do" to him. We should all be like that. Campaign coverage has been like an ongoing Hard Copy, mostly because for years the media did whatever George Bush said (That's 8 years for y'all) and by now, their thinking caps are dusty and their mind has atrophied. And, all while Bush has been dictating to the media, our government has had layer upon layer of murky distance between the people and the government.

I'm sure everyone noticed who the Republicans let get the nomination - its not like Cheney wanted the job. Isn't that a clue? No heavyweights at all. Perhaps the beltway insiders believe it has become a black man's or a woman's job at this point, in other words, they don't care; the carcass is rotting, the gold has been mined, the corps have moved away. The bigger question is what is America going to do with all the working folks who believe that there are jobs around the corner.

I think we are getting the last dance shuffle before the walk to the gas chamber mysef.

Posted by: rookie | April 29, 2008 4:46 AM | Report abuse

John McCain stood by president Bush when he needed his endorsement. Now that he has the endorsement he wants to distance himself from the president. John also complains that Bush didn't do enough to help Katrina victims. The funny thing is John was sitting in the senate when the whole Katrina thing happened and he did not do anything to help the Katrina victims. Senators have as much or sometimes more power than the president in making a difference in peoples lives. But John McCain chose not to do anything, and now is walking around complaining about Bush. McCain has really no backbone regardless of whether he suffered in Vietnam.

Posted by: Ed Kellerman | April 29, 2008 3:12 AM | Report abuse

Obama has no relationship with Ayers....how can you explain something that doesn't exist? They were on a charity together. Obama has nothing to do with him. Instead worry about the Clinton Fraud Trial....goggle it. That is something concrete to worry about.

Posted by: Nancy | April 29, 2008 2:31 AM | Report abuse

DEBATE! DEBATE!! DEBATE!!!

It's time for everyone to face the truth. Barack Obama has no real chance of winning the national election in November at this time. His crushing defeat in Pennsylvania makes that fact crystal clear. His best, and only real chance of winning in November is on a ticket with Hillary Clinton as her VP.

Hillary Clinton seemed almost somber at her Pennsylvania victory speech. As if part of her was hoping Obama could have proved he had some chance of winning against the republican attack machine, and their unlimited money, and resources.

But it is absolutely essential that the democrats take back the Whitehouse in November. America, and the American people are in a very desperate condition now. And the whole World has been doing all that they can to help keep us propped up.

Hillary Clinton say's that the heat, and decisions in the Whitehouse are much tougher than the ones on the campaign trail. But I think Mr. Obama faces a test of whether he has what it takes to be a commander and chief by facing the difficult facts, and the truth before him. And by doing what is best for the American people by dropping out of the race, and offering his whole hearted assistance to Hillary Clinton to help her take back the Whitehouse for the American people, and the World.

Mr. Obama is a great speaker. And I am confident he can explain to the American people the need, and wisdom of such a personal sacrifice for them. It should be clear to everyone by now that Hillary Clinton is fighting her heart out for the American people. She has known for a long time that Mr. Obama can not win this November. You have to remember that the Clinton's have won the Whitehouse twice before. They know what it takes.

If Mr. Obama fails his test of commander and chief we can only hope that Hillary Clinton can continue her heroic fight for the American people. And that she prevails. She will need all the continual support and help we can give her. She may fight like a superhuman. But she is only human.

Sen. Hillary Clinton: "You know, more people have now voted for me than have voted for my opponent. In fact, I now have more votes than anybody has ever had in a primary contest for a nomination. And it's also clear that we've got nine more important contests to go."

Sincerely

Jacksmith... Working Class :-)

Posted by: jacksmith | April 29, 2008 2:05 AM | Report abuse

Yes, there are many people who have very different world views than they had years ago. I know that mine has changed. I would hate for someone to remind me of some of the things that I said years ago. Even though I have never been a vindictive person, I am sure that I have said some things that I regret, especially if I were reminded of them today.
As for Wright's speech, I have a different take on it. Rev. Wright has availed himself of the opportunity to see and hear a lot during his life. It is very obvious that he has studied many cultures. Many of the points that he makes are valid. My own graduate research has actually been verified by some of the people he has referred to lately.

Posted by: Earl C, Virginia Beach | April 29, 2008 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Excuse Me Blessed:
I don't want to hear what Obama said in 1995 no more than you want to hear what I said in 1995. You need to update your hearing. I am interested in what he has to say in 2008 and beyond. Now is the time for him to take a stand and let America know who he is. NOW!

Posted by: Ebonyflash | April 28, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Excuse Me Blessed:
I don't want to hear what he Obama said i 1995 no more than you want to hear what I said in 1995. You need to update your hearing. I am interested in what ha has to say in 2008 and beyond. Now is the time for him to take a stand and let America knpw who he is. NOW!

Posted by: Ebonyflash | April 28, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

I believe it was Andy Warhol, who said everyone will get their 15 minutes of fame.

I thing reverend wright thinks this is HIS 15 minutes. How wrong he is. wright is going to f* everything up for Barak Obama.

It's really a shame. I think OBAMA has HUGE POTENTIAL for becoming a REALLY GREAT PRESIDENT.. but he's getting hit from all sides on the most ridiculous of NON-ISSUES and can't even run his campaign.

And what never ceases to amaze me still? Is that Barak Obama has kept to his word, and despite hillary's scummy campaigning, Barak has kept his pledge to run a POSITIVE CAMPAIGN. Kudos to Barak Obama.

Barak Obama 2008

Posted by: BelieverOfChange | April 28, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Want to know the real Obama, Listen to this interview he did in 1995.
http://eyeonbooks.com/ibp_obama.php

Posted by: blessed | April 28, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

As a Black man who was raised in the South I take offense to Rev. Wright implying that the Black Church preaches racism. I have heard preaching about all God's children and that God loves us one and all etc. He shouldn't tell the nation that he is the example/spokesperson for the Black Churches in America. Furthermore, Barack Obama should shut him down now if expects to win in Nov. Now one of two issues exist at this time:
1. Either Rev. Wright is totally pissed at Barack for stealing his messages of "hope" and repackaging it to sell as his own while at the same time kicking his "beloved" pastor to the curb in order to get the votes or
2. They have staged this battle/media circus like they have bones to pick with each other but really plan to be picking their teeth around the dinner table in the White House next year and laughing at how they pulled this off.

Posted by: Ebonyflash | April 28, 2008 11:09 PM | Report abuse

So why is McCain and his spiritual advisor Rod Parsley getting a pass. Parsley said the U.S. should destroy Islam. Headline news in Iran and Pakistan. McCain sings about bombing Iran and says he will be Hamas's worst nightmare. What does McCain mean by that?

Posted by: Mr. Unite Us | April 28, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Wow! Looking for any reason to jump the ship of Obama. For some, it doesn't take much. The same military officers, government officials, and private citizens that were quick to berate Clinton as Commander in Chief are the same ones who call people unpatriotic for not kissing the ground at Bush's feet. Give me a break. As a white man, I fully understand where Wright is coming from. His speech before his particular audiences is designed to raise discussion, reaction, and reflection. There are too many thin-skinned people in this country as witnessed on the TV tonight. The Rev. Wright and his kind may be God's test on us. If the U.S. in fact launched an unwarranted attack on Iraq, which over 60% of the American people believe, what does that make us? Perhaps your choice of words indicates the degree to which you prefer to use "polite" speech or "hateful" speech. However, the ultimate result is the same. Our friends around the world believe that we have committed war crimes and have been lead by a zealot. The religious right knows inflamatory words as well to describe the left. Words like "tolerance," "liberal," and "gay" are so hated in the "right" community, that there is nothing too bad for them to say. I really feel sad that we cannot dialogue with Rev. Wright and others because if we cannot, what are we showing about our ability to dialogue with others around the world? I guess our only response will be to do what unintelligent people do, FIGHT! Has anyone on this blog ever taken a psychology class in college? We need some divergent viewpoints.

Posted by: Earl C., Virginia Beach | April 28, 2008 10:58 PM | Report abuse

It's time to turn our attention to the http://truth-about-mccain.blogspot.com
in order to win the presidency for the Democrats this fall.

Posted by: Francis L. Holland, Esq. | April 28, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Time for Rev. Wright to be featured guest on Oprah, then make the rounds of all the talks shows, do a couple of reality shows, some guest spots on comedies and just wear himself out.

For Obama, as he handles this with wisdom and poise, if it doesn't destroy him in the primary, it won't help the GOP later. They will need something else.

Posted by: Gaias Child | April 28, 2008 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Dear SVReader posting under cute new names:

You are too blind to see that Obama and Wright are not the same person, with very different backgrounds.

You are quick to condemn these men yet you dare not question your government because they are infallible! Just look at what a fabulous state the country is in after the flag-pin wearing Republicans have scared and divided the nation using non-issues like this fake controversy that you are foaming at the mouth over.

And yeah, you are a horrible human being as evidenced by your continued dishonest, ill-informed rants. Obama doesn't need your stinking vote so get over it.

Posted by: Maria | April 28, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Maria --

I guess us "typical white people" can't see how wonderful Obama and Wright truly are.

We've been too busy inventing AIDS and bringing 9/11 on ourselves to realize what horrible human beings we are.

Thanks for letting us know.

We'll be sure to vote for you. NOT.

Posted by: I guess us "typical white people" can't see how wonderful Obama and Wright truly are | April 28, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Its not Obama's fault. It was the cocaine.

Posted by: At least Bush DIDN'T write a book bragging about his felonies | April 28, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

"We reject Obama because HE IS RACIST!!!

If you can't see that, we're sorry for you.

Obama and Wright are as bad as George Wallace and David Duke."

First off, I don't want your "sympathy" because you are obviously blind and hateful.

Find me ANYTHING that Obama has written or stated that even approaches the level of racism espoused by Wallace or Duke. You won't be able to because that is not who he is, no matter how you try and play your guilt-by-association games.

As to Rev. Wright, if the white members of the United Church of Christ's congregation thought that he was a racist hate-monger, don't you think they would all leave? Don't you think the other churches that are affiliated with this one would have disowned it long ago?

People like you make this country a more unpleasant place to live.

Posted by: Maria | April 28, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Wright, bitter gate, bowling, Ayers. It is amazing how mole hills can be made into mountains. Clinton supporters should know about his kind of bull since we lived through media driven frenzy about scandal after substance free scandal.

I support Obama because he is the farthest from the neocon foreign policy nightmare we have now. McCain is a full fledged neocon who vociferously advocated preemptive war. Hillary is a liberal Hawk. Her comments about a "nuclear envelope" around the mideast that she brought up in the Penn debates highlights her neocon light bonefides.

The media frenzy over gotcha crap is not enough to distract me from voting to turn the page of our current disaster of foreign policy. Obama is the best able to move us in a new direction.

Posted by: birdman | April 28, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

I voted for Senator Obama in my state's primary and I still support him today, but unfortunately, this may be the nail in the coffin for him. Jeremiah Wright is a hate-filled racist scumbag, there is no other way to put it. He's views are not only offensive some, such as the government started AIDS, are even downright idiotic. It is clear he is out for himself, he doesn't want to black candidate elected because then he couldn't continue to spread his victimology of hate. Has past service in military doesn't mean anything, he is expressing racism and hatred pure and simple.

I take Senator Obama at his word his Wright's views are not his own and given a choice between him and a warmonger (McCain) or someone who is patently dishonest (Clinton), he is still the best choice. I'm afraid others will feel differently and in a close race it will only take a small shift to Clinton to allow her to win. I don't know how Obama limits the damage, he ought to give the backstabbing hatemonger a knuckle sandwich, but Presidential candidates can't do that.

Maybe Wright and those who agree with him can feel proud of themselves; they may have destroyed the most promising black candidate in history, but now they have all the more reason to go on damning America.

Posted by: RealChoices | April 28, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Most of us are waiting for the end of Cheney's rule before we say anything.

since the Habis Corpus has been nulified

Posted by: Secret Service | April 28, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Walmart and Bill Gates are touchy subjects with liberals lol Earl

Posted by: its cool | April 28, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

The reference to Bill Gates after one of my previous posts totally misses my point. This is what is really wrong with debating anything. English may be a wonderful language, but people certainly can screw up this very same language. C'est la vie!

Posted by: Earl C, Virginia Beac | April 28, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

I think the RED Chinese Brainwashed Rev. Wright when he was in Vietnam to make sure there other brainwashed captive wins the election..

To further the Red Communist China Domination

Posted by: conspircy theory | April 28, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

On MSNBC, keep up the anti-Wright rave. Talking about his comment about AIDS. There is a historical precident -- the use of Blacks in the past on whom the government experimented with various diseases and so forth. One must be able to sort out rhetorical statements from statements of fact. The big talking heads have forgotten about the power of rhetoric, which is what you mainly hear in political speeches anyway. Amazing.

Posted by: Earl C, Virginia Beach | April 28, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Dick Cheney will not give up power without a war.

Posted by: cheney dick | April 28, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

THOUGH MADAM CLINTON SHINES NOW OBAMA WILL WIN INTHE LONGRUN

Posted by: MOHAMMAD OBAIDULLAH | April 28, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Bill Gates only use 3% of his 900 H1 visas for Level V skill workers lower than most companies average 11%
He just wants cheap labor Like Bush LIKE McCain

Don't Pay American Workers GOP just be the Chairman

Posted by: Lou Dobbs | April 28, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

My new xxx video is due out in May don't miss it Rev. Wrong

Posted by: Paris Hilton | April 28, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Still, nobody listens to the whole sermon and so forth. George Bush has so screwed up any efforts of his (and mine) generation to move the country forward, it is time to pass the torch. If the number of years of experience is so great, rather than type of experience regardless of the number of years, it's amazing that there are any young CEOs in the country. For some reason, Bill Gates comes to mind as a relatively young person who changed the world with his vision about computers. I vote to pass the torch and move the dialog about race, health care, and so forth forward.

Posted by: Earl C., Virginia Beach | April 28, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

God i hope Briney or Lindsey do something crazy..

If I have to listen to Crazy Rev, Wrong Sing Opera one more time.

I will poke needles in my eye,,

Posted by: REV WRONG | April 28, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Wright is crazy as an outhouse rat, brother.

Posted by: Wright or Wrong: Not My Courtry | April 28, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Rev Wrong just cares about his ego.

He no freind of OBAMA that clear.

His 15 minute will over soon.

Posted by: REV WRONG | April 28, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

The cuckoos have come home to roost. At Wright's belfry.

Posted by: Obama's Man of the Cloth (Loin cloth) | April 28, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

HEY HILLARY I SAID LINCOLN DOUGLAS FIRST
darn that McCain for ignoring me.

And Why would not debate your senator opponent about the WAR Vote?

MIKE HUCKELBEE

Posted by: Mike Huclelbee | April 28, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

MY FELLOW "BITTER", STUPID, WORKING CLASS PEOPLE :-)

If you think like Barack Obama, that WORKING CLASS PEOPLE are just a bunch of "BITTER"!, STUPID, PEASANTS, Cash COWS!, and CANNON FODDER. :-(

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary's than they had ever been before or since.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton. :-)

Best regards

jacksmith... Working Class :-)

p.s. You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you don't know that the huge amounts of money funding the Obama campaign to try and defeat Hillary Clinton is coming in from the insurance, and medical industry, that has been ripping you off, and killing you and your children. And denying you, and your loved ones the life saving medical care you needed. All just so they can make more huge immoral profits for them-selves off of your suffering...

You see, back in 1993 Hillary Clinton had the audacity, and nerve to try and get quality, affordable universal health care for everyone to prevent the suffering and needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of you each year. :-)

Approx. 100,000 of you die each year from medical accidents from a rush to profit by the insurance, and medical industry. Another 120,000 of you die each year from treatable illness that people in other developed countries don't die from. And I could go on, and on...

OBAMA AIDE: "WORKING-CLASS VOTERS NOT KEY FOR DEMOCRATS" :o

DEBATE! DEBATE!! DEBATE!!!...

Posted by: jacksmith | April 28, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

They sing and dance at those churches and have fun. there must be a law against that?

Where is Jim Crow when you need him.

Posted by: why do they let them sing and dance | April 28, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

obama picks up one 297 to go
clinton picks up one 433
298 supers 406 elected

Posted by: COUNTDOWN TO VICTORY | April 28, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

I forgive Wright for his 15 minutes of fame plus two hours

AND for wanting MANDATED HEALTH INSURANE

Posted by: ETERNALY HAPPY | April 28, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Is Wright on Hillary's payroll?

Why would Obama attend this unpleasant, smirking, supercilious man's church? Obama is probably asking himself this question now. Would Wright's african american amen choir be singing Wright's praises so loudly if they stopped to think that he is costing the first ever viable black presidential candidate the presidency?

Posted by: bmaz64 | April 28, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Wright is Hillary's best friend. Obama's choice of Pastor is what is now "coming home to roost."

Posted by: bmaz64 | April 28, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

I hope that Obama keeps on keeping on. The alternatives scare me. As a retired, middle-aged, white Southerner, I was proud of myself for actually understanding the three major interviews/speeches that Jeremiah Wright has given since Friday. I am not offended. I am not seeing red. I was also directly involved in the frustrations of school desegregation in 1958. However, I know those who are offended! Surprise upon surprise when I mention my bigoted friends. Former Republican governor of Virginia Lynwood Holton talked about this in a guest column in the newpaper a few years ago when he basically said that the white racists have drifted to the Republican Party. People talk about Wright and his "hate speech." Nothing beats O'Rilley, Limbaugh, and the one-and-only most hateful person to ever be given a microphone Ann Coulter. Before getting upset, just listen to what J. Wright is saying. My preacher yells at the copngregation and often says nothing. J. Wright talks loudly but has a lot to say. We say that we believe in free speech until we hear what is uncomfortable. I do not believe that vulgarity is protected as free speech, but I have heard nothing from Rev. Wright that violates free speech. One must keep the entire sermon or speech of Rev. Wright in order to have the context. Even the Bible can be picked apart piece by piece. If President Bush and company can take away our rights in the name of security, I am glad that people like Rev. Wright are speaking out. It is time for us white people to figure out how we are going to exist as a minority population in this great nation of ours. Those of us, like Rev. Wright, who undertstand the full meaning of the "golden rule" will do fine, I predict. Keep it up Rev. Wright and keep moving forward Mr. Obama. Again, listen to all three speeches/interviews of Rev. Wright and then make your decision based on more than soundbites.

Posted by: Earl C, Virginia Beach | April 28, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

The Clintons are so ELITE the even Bill Gates kisses there butts

Posted by: obama troll | April 28, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

So has anyone else noticed lately how that
Barack Hussein Obama is starting to do the
same arrogant smirking lying struting and
posturing like old Commander Guy Liar in
Chief George W Bush did with his famous
"Mission Accomplished" Carrier Flight Deck
Capt Codpiece number? Face it all Obama is
just a Democrat version of Republican Bush
and just as arrogant and smirking and phony
as well. Just say NO Obama in 2008!

Posted by: Sandy5274 | April 28, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: WELCOME TO THE MACHINE | April 28, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Most of the boards at WaPo have been taken over by Clinton trolls. No use looking for intelligent discussion here.

Posted by: dH | April 28, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

"GO REV. WRIGHT!!! *

Posted by: JakeD | April 28, 2008 12:27 PM"

Get a grip JakeD...we'll need moderate Republicans and right of center Democrats to defeat Grandpa. AND YOU AND YOUR ILK HAD SOON BETTER GET IT. The Senator with 2 (two) years experience, and a community organizer with a real piece of work minister as a pal just AIN'T going nowhere in November.

Since you and some otherws need the lesson I'll provide it:

The rhetoric and associations with Wright are IMPORTANT. Think joined at the hips. And the SUBSTANCE of this bunch, regardless of relevance, DOES AND WILL NOT RESONATE WITH THE MAJORITY OF CENTRIST VOTERS.

And this will stand regardless of the rhetorical skills and talents of Senator Obama. A man whom I most certainly respect.

However, NEVER EVER CONFUSE Senator Clinton with a candidate who WILL WORK AGAINST YOUR INTERESTS AND MY INTERESTS.

She'll just accomplish what's needed to IMPROVE OUR LIVES without the damning talk, the marginalization talk, the borderline hateful talk (this really isn't 1953 and this is the tone and rhetoric of Minister Wright) and do so with DISPATCH and EFFICIENCY. And Lord help anyone who gets in the way of her or slows her down. And this, sir, is what our nation needs.

We needed this yesterday.

(and i say this with respect to senator obama and with admiration) ...(it's just that this is an election that DEMANDS a winner. And regardless of your HOPE and your Sinceritiy and your Good Will...there's a group of voters...a significant group of voters...who will go with Grandpa...and do so regardless of their economic vested self interest; when opposed by the anyone other than Senator Clinton.

Of course if you wish to disprove my theory then by all means awaken the morning after election to PresGrandpa.

BUT DON'T YOU DARE COMPLAIN TO ME OR ANYONE ELSE.


*you really mean GO John MCCain


AP Poll: Clinton leads McCain by 9 points
By LIZ SIDOTI (Associated Press Writer)
From Associated Press
April 28, 2008 6:54 PM EDT
WASHINGTON - Hillary Rodham Clinton now leads John McCain by 9 points in a head-to-head presidential matchup, according to an Associated Press-Ipsos poll that bolsters her argument that she is more electable than Democratic rival Barack Obama. Obama and Republican McCain are running about even.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

The question is: Experience at what? McCain knows zilch about anything else but war. And everything of importance Hillary has tried has failed. Even her sham of a marriage.

Posted by: Peter J Paul | April 28, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Copyright Reverend Irving Wright with twenty years of Amens from Barry Obama

While the storm clouds gather far across the sea,
Let us repudiate a land that's so called free,
Let us all be hateful for a land that's so called fair,
As we raise our bitter voices in a solemn prayer.

God Da-mn America,
Land that I loathe.
Stand astride her, yet despise her
With a chip on a shoulder from above.
From the plantations, up to Harvard
To the Jews rich from our blood
God Da-am America, keepin' us down down down.

Posted by: Louis F | April 28, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Ok. Now let's talk about Hillary's prayer group....the right wing fundamentalist Militaristic Christians - the Fellowship aka the Family. That might explain her vote for the Iraq war and her sabre rattling for nuking Iran. Maybe it's a Yale Skull & Bones conspiracy.

Posted by: Jack | April 28, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Obama supporters believe inexperience is a virtue.

Who said George Orwell was dead?

Posted by: Who said George Orwell was dead? | April 28, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

The fact that Obama is inexperienced is why I would vote for him. How can you honestly vote for Clinton & McCain? What you need is real change. Genuine honest change not just change for the sake of it.
You have a chance to make a real difference so don't blow it.
Joe From Oz

Posted by: Joe C | April 28, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse


"You can always tell a Harvard man, you can tell him by his touch."

"You can always tell a Harvard man, but you cannot tell him much."

Posted by: You can always tell a Harvard man | April 28, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Yaa only idiots get into Harvard.

Posted by: HARVARD GRAD | April 28, 2008 8:17 PM | Report abuse

For any EE's in the audience:

Obama could only win on the J axis.

We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.

Posted by: For those EE's in the audience | April 28, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

How many of Hillary's brothers where PARDONED

and Will you need a DRAFT to Nuke Iran.

Why do you wan't to protect the Saudi Arabians with an AMERICAN MILITARY shield?

Will that mean a DRAFT Hillary?

Posted by: pardon me hillary | April 28, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Countdown to Victory
297 Obama
433 Clinton

406 Elected Remaining 298 Supers


go Obama

Posted by: Delegate math | April 28, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Obama is the new NIXON.

According to his supporters --

"If Obama does it, that means it is not a crime"

The rest of us feel differently.

We feel that Obama should stand up like a man, apologise for what he has done, resign from Senate and drop out of the race.

Obama has betrayed the trust of everyone he's ever been involved with.

He's a real jerk.

He doesn't deserve anyone's support, especially not young idealists.

Posted by: Obama is the new NIXON | April 28, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

If Obama can be saddled with Wright, then Clinton can be saddled with her husband and all of his decisions during his administration. Let's let Hillary answer for the pardon of Mark Rich, for the pardons to sixteen members of the terrorist FALN group in exchange for campaign contributions, for the illegal firing and baseless charges against the White House travel employees in order to transfer charter business to a Clinton buddy, for the approval of most-favored nation trading status and WTO membership for China after receiving huge (and illegal) campaign donations from Chinese nationals, for the passage of NAFTA against the will of 60% of the American public, and for everything else that Hillary has been trying to hide away and claim had nothing to do with her.

Obama merely attended Wright's church; Hillary and Bill married each other.

Posted by: blert | April 28, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Lynn, Take a few deep breaths. I hope that voters will not fall into the trap of voting for or against a candidate because of what someone he or she associates with says. I have friends and relatives who hold opinions that I don't embrace, but hey are still friends and still part of the family . I'm sure we could find people among the acquaintances of John McCain and Hillary Clinton who have expressed opinions they don't agree with.

Posted by: azjim | April 28, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Maria --

We reject Obama because HE IS RACIST!!!

If you can't see that, we're sorry for you.

Obama and Wright are as bad as George Wallace and David Duke.

Racism is wrong.

No matter what color the racist is!!!

Posted by: We reject Obama because HE IS RACIST!!! | April 28, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Jordon, sadly there are too many people here that are driven by the primitive response of their reptile brains, tweaked by fear and the inability to move in a new direction.

They have been looking for an excuse to dismiss Obama and since they are racists themselves it is even better for them to turn it around and claim that his former pastor "hates white people" so therefore, Obama hates them as well, in spite of EVERYTHING he has ever said or done. The man is just as much white as he is black; he is not about division and fear.

I don't think that the millions of people that support Obama and his campaign are going to abandon him over this. It is just another bump in the road and scare tactics are just not going to work, not this time!

Posted by: Maria | April 28, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

did anyone hear the wright speech in which he said that " a black man will be having sex with a black woman in the white house and it will be legal". I cannot believe this. Is this the guy Obama has been following and listening to for twenty years with his wife and children? This is crazy, this is unreal.

Posted by: nadeem tahir | April 28, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

"Obama chose Wright over and over and over" aka svreader, that white burka chaffing yet?

Posted by: JP2 | April 28, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Obama chose Rev. Wright Over and Over and Over for over 20 years.

It shows how poor both Obama's judgment and character are.

Its over for Obama.

It couldn't have happened to a more deserving guy.

Posted by: Obama chose Rev. Wright over and over and over | April 28, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

The choice just got so much easier with the Pastor Wright bombshell favor...

http://www.topix.com/denver/2008/04/jeremiah-wright-demands-race-and-privilege-are-the-central-obama-campaign-issues

Wow - just like that the drama ends as fast as Obama soared.

This will effectively end Obama's Presidential run and he will drop out of the race in order to prevent setting back civil rights 40+ years and heading off a modern day civil war.

This must have been Wright's way of getting even after Obama trashed him.

Bye- bye Barack

Posted by: danglingwrangler | April 28, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Obama never takes responsibility for his grave errors in judgment. According to his supporters, its always someone else's fault. In the case of Rev. Wright, that excuse is laughable. Obama chose Rev Wright over and over and over for over 20 years. He knew what Rev Wright was teaching and he just smiled and went along. I'm starting to wonder if Obama's an android. The guy clearly doens't have a heart or a soul. He doesn't care about anybody but himself. If being human is a requirement for being President (and I'm pretty sure it is :-) he should be forced to drop out on that basis alone.

Obama is evil, but he's good looking and he speaks well.

That's the most dangerous kind of person.

Bad people don't always look evil.

You have to look past their words and look at their actions.

Obama's actions show that he has a heart of solid ICE.

The real Barry Obama is a really bad guy.

He doesn't care about anyone but himself.

I feel sorry for his supporters.

He's using them like he's used everyone else in his life.

Lets hope they wake up before they find themselves "under the bus"

Posted by: Obama chose Rev. Wright over and over and over | April 28, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Thanks to the moderate voices in this ongoing discussion re Rev. Wright and Senator Obama. For the rest, I think you owe it to yourselves to read a book, turn off the television, and think carefully about what you are saying. Because Obama worships at the Trinity Church does not make him a bad person, nor does it mean that he shares the views or the opinions of the pastor of that church. He is a Christian and he attends a very good church, and it only means that he worships at a church of his choosing.
Let us and the candidates talk about the issues that are important, not about whom one associates with.

Posted by: Jordan Davies | April 28, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

In one press appearance, American people clearly get what Rev. Wright is all about.

But somehow Obama was in Rev. Wright's church for 20 years, Obama claims that he "didn't" know. What a liar!

I think Obama not only looks down at "poor, uneducated" people, but he also thinks American people are stupid.

Democrats are doomed. That's too bad.

Posted by: GY | April 28, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Lynn, get a grip. Seriously.

Posted by: Maria | April 28, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

As long as people think Rev. Wright's words are the cause of the current state of affairs in this country, we are absolutely sure not to get out of the mire.

Last time I checked Rev. Wright had no control over the budgetary process in this country. He did not authorize a war in Iraq. In 2000 he wasn't the presidential candidate promising voters that he could "do something about oil prices," because he knew the Saudis (and boy has GWB done something!).

Judge the man by his deeds, not his words.

There's also the saying that the strongest critic is often the greatest ally. The Bush 30 and the right-wing noise machine can't handle the truth.

Posted by: JP2 | April 28, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

WHO IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT: HILLARY, BILL OR CHELSEA?

Hey, which Clinton is running for president?
Hillary, Bill, Chelsea, all three or a combination of 2 of 3?


Posted by: Ricky Galilea | April 28, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

This Pastor Wright is the fool of the Century.

He admittedly made such demeaning and disparaging remarks about OUR COUNTRY, and now expects Americans to believe his anti american mouth is the fault of the media aND THE PEOPLE. Their have been no disparaging or underhanded things said about the Black Church. HE DONE DID THE DAMAGE AND REACHED OUT FOR DIUNITY OF THE COUNTRY. HOW DARE THIS PERSON COME OUT OF NOWHERE AND TRIES TO CAUSE DISUNITY AMONG THE PEOPLE, AND STUPID OBAMA JUST SMILES LIKE A CHARLIE MC CARTHY PUPPET YESING THIS VILE MAN AND HIS ANTI AMERICAN BELIEFS, WHICH ARE OBAMA'S BELIEFS AS WELL. AFTER 20 YEARS OF HEARING THIS PASTOR SPIT OUT POISON LIKE A SNAKE HE CANNOT BUT AGREE. WE WILL, IN THE END BOOT THEM BOTH OUT-AND GOOD RIDDENCE TO BAD RUBBISH!!!!

LETS GET ON WITH THE CAMPAIGN TALKING ISSUES ABOUT OUR COUNTRY AND HOW WE ARE GOING TO BRING THE USA BACK WHERE IT BELONGS. THROW THE TWO BEAUTIES IN THE TRASH CAN, PUT A COVER ON IT, AND LET THE GARBAGE MEN GRIND THEM TO LITTLE PIECES!

Posted by: LYNN PARKER | April 28, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Joyce, Barbara and Annie for restoring some sanity to these comments.

OBAMA 08!

Posted by: maria | April 28, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse


Apparently NM Moderate said:

"Sorry Bill, I didn't see a question in your post. I can accept that you are offended by his anti-American remarks and if you have not been one of the posters who is calling him hateful names, then I'm not talking about you personally. It just seems odd to me when some folks call Wright a "hate-filled racist", then say something like "if you don't like America, then you can go back to Africa". Who is the hateful racist?"

No problem. I used the term "hate-filled racist" when referring to Wright. I don't define him, he does it himself in his rants.



Posted by: Billw | April 28, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Rev. Wright - Fear
Louis Farrakhan - Fear
Fox News - Fear
Obama muslim - Fear
Black man in position of power - Fear
Challenges to the status quo - Fear
Change - Fear

Bush has all you mind-numbed sheep pretty well trained, doesn't he? You're so afraid of anything different and the hate and lies you spread will do nothing but bring it back on you tenfold. You will reap what you sow and you will cower in fear when that day comes.

Posted by: scaredcat | April 28, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Obama is being criticized for what his pastor has said, and for worshiping God at his church, not his pastor. Clinton is criticized for what SHE has said and done (Travelgate at the White House; those pesky FBI files on their opponents at the beginning of the Clinton White House; finding files after the statute of limitations had run; where WAS she on the day that her friends received pardons?? claiming, as a billing partner, that she couldn't remember billing time to certain clients (ask any lawyer--that claim can't be true!), Bosnian sniper fire; supporting NAFTA, then opposing it (think flip-flopping won't be an issue in the general election?); calling Monica a stalker to the national press, rather than recognizing the well-worn signs of a wandering husband; and this is just the beginning. Obama has shown true class in not destroying the Party by calling national attention to these details. The general elections won't be as classy. All of the criticisms of Obama seem tangential by comparison.

Posted by: annie tronetti | April 28, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Do you honestly think the Republicans are done "vetting" the Clintons. You know darn well how the other side has been drooling over the possibility of running against Hillary.

You see....this is stuff Obama would not dream of throwing on Clinton, because he means what he says about how we need a change in our political climate. Does it stop Hillary from piling on him. No. But that's because she's from the OLD school.

And Obama's example just made me delete a bunch of crap from this very post, that they would use on Hillary. Because I'm TRYING to follow Barack's example.

Posted by: Joyce | April 28, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

This is what happens when you have dirt on the Clintons :
1 - James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack,
while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.
2 - Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee
Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual
harassment in the White House.
3 - Vince Foster - Former white House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's
Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
4 - Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact
in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of
Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated,
and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.
5 - C. Victor Raiser II and Montgomery Raiser, Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization
died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
6 - Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in
Little Rock, September 1992... Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor."
7- Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot
wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed
Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several
Clinton fund raising events.
8 - Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his
car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on
Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously
removed from his house.
9 - James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people
which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.
10 - James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported
to have ties to Whitewater.
11- Kathy Ferguson, ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in
her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several
packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with
Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula
Jones.
12 - Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling
of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave
site of his fiancee.
13 - Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a
tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
14 - Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena
Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
15 - Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney
General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time
of her death.
16 - Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9,
1992. She died in a one car accident.
17 - Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development
Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
18 - Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "
October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had
delivered a report to Janet Reno three weeks before his death
19 - Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death
from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan
Guarantee scandal.
20 - Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang.
Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her
office at the Department of Commerce.
21- Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security
clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
22 - Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee,
died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on
Clinton's advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.
23 - Barry Seal - Drug running pilot out of Mena, Arkansas, death was no accident.
24 - Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left
at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
25 - Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guarantee. His death was a purported suicide and his
report was never released.
26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.
27 - Kevin Ives and Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may
have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report
of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the two boys had been slain
before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come

before a Grand Jury.
THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
28 - Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, July 1988.
29 - Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
30 - Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
31 - Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
33 - James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to "natural
causes."
34 - Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
35 - Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.
THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD: 36 - Major William S. Barkley Jr. 37
- Captain Scott J. Reynolds 38 - Sgt. Brian Hanley 39 - Sgt. Tim Sabel 40 - Major General William
Robertson 41 - Col. William Densberger 42 - Col. Robert Kelly 43 - Spec. Gary Rhodes 44 - Steve
Willis 45 - Robert Williams 46 - Conway LeBleu 47 - Todd McKeehan
Quite an impressive list! Pass this on. Let the public become aware of what happens to anyone who
might damage the Clinton machine

Posted by: hillary | April 28, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Howdy: You are kidding yourself if you think that the Republicans are not going to unload the slime machine on Clinton just as they are on Obama.

They are sitting on their hands, hoping that they can help knock him out in this round. Why do you think Kristol, Limbaugh and Scaife are singing her praises? You really think they have the Democrats best interest at heart? Please.

All that aside, who the f*ck says that the Republicans have even a shred of credibility left that would allow them to dictate what the election "will be about". That last, pathetic 28% who think that the country is on the right track will not win in November.

Posted by: Obama is my guy! | April 28, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

B. Lloyd:

It must be hard to function when you are so disconnected from reality.

Posted by: Maria | April 28, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Its time for Al Gore!

Posted by: Idahotreasures | April 28, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

If Obama is the nominee, then the general election will be about race and patriotism.

If Clinton is the nominee, then the general election will be about the economy, health care, the environment, and the war in Iraq.

Posted by: howdy999 | April 28, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Here's a quiz:
Who said this....

"This stranglehold has got to be broken or the country's going down the drain," the nation's best-known preacher declared as he agreed with a stream of bigoted Nixon comments about Jews and their perceived influence in American life.

"You believe that?" says Nixon after the "stranglehold" comment.

"Yes, sir," says ?

"Oh, boy," replies Nixon. "So do I. I can't ever say that but I believe it."

"No, but if you get elected a second time, then we might be able to do something," replies ?

Later, ? mentions that he has friends in the media who are Jewish, saying they "swarm around me and are friendly to me." But, he confides to Nixon, "They don't know how I really feel about what they're doing to this country."

This well-known man of God also recommended that Nixon bomb the dams in Vietnam. (never mind that would have cost a million more lives).

Hint: George W. Bush says this well known preacher is responsible for his born-again belief.

Answer: Billy Graham
Result: Barely a ripple in the news cycle.

Posted by: Joyce | April 28, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Whether or not we agree with Reverend Wright (and I was moved by the power, clarity and intelligence behind his remarks), he has the right, as we all do, to speak his truth. These were not Obama's words, just as Governor Rendell's praising of Farrakhan were not Hillary's words. John McCain's friend and supporter, Rev. John Hagee, is actively working to hasten "armageddon" and indicated that God damned this country by punishing New Orleans with Hurricane Katrina. McCain has said that he is very proud of Rev. Hagee but that "does not mean that I support or endorse or agree with some of the things that Pastor John Hagee might have said or positions that he may have taken on other issues." Sound familiar?

But why is the media working overtime to prove Obama guilty-by-association, while downplaying similar connections of the other candidates? Here's why: Obama is a threat to the status quo - to the influence of the rich and powerful. His record-breaking grassroots campaign donations leave him obligated to nobody but We the People.

Posted by: Barbara Campbell | April 28, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Billw said (re Wright):
"His racist remarks speak for themselves, but it is (in my case at least, and likely with other veterans) not "hate-filled" vitriol", but instead resenting his hate-filled remark against the USA (from the pulpit yet). There is NO excuse for that. Please don't tar other people with Wright's brush."


OK, fair enough. I accept you were not tarring with Wright's brush.

You ask if some have "hatred" inside that comes out in their posts concerning Wright.
I answered above. You have now turned to another issue, but back to your original question about "hatred". Care to respond to my answer to your question? It's at the top of this post.

Sorry Bill, I didn't see a question in your post. I can accept that you are offended by his anti-American remarks and if you have not been one of the posters who is calling him hateful names, then I'm not talking about you personally. It just seems odd to me when some folks call Wright a "hate-filled racist", then say something like "if you don't like America, then you can go back to Africa". Who is the hateful racist?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

The Democratic leaders had better find an alternative to Hillary or Barack, neither of whom can win. Go find Joe Biden!

Posted by: candide | April 28, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Obama is kaput! A black man we thought would reassure whites has allowed himself to be turned into just another black -- fanatical, angry, not what the Germans call salonfaehig.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Dan,

This is just the latest test Obama has failed. The guy isn't ready to be President or VP of anything. He needs to drop out of the race now before he hurts himself even more...

Posted by: Obama keeps failing his tests | April 28, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

"Obama it [the power of his machine] again in South Carolina, not just by winning but by overwhelming Clinton at a time when racial politics were at the boiling point."

There it is again, mean old Clinton playing the race card. Why? Because Bill Clinton said Obama's speech was not not equivalent to a U.S. Senate vote, but in that context a fairytale. And what's so bad about being compared to Jessie Jackson, unless your a Republican??! . . . . But Bill was playing a race card.

And last week, it comes out that the Obama campaign all the way back before S. Carolina was planning ways that it could use the "race card" accusation at the first and every opportunity.

AND REMEMBER REV. WRIGHT WAS MORE THAN OBAMA'S PASTOR; HE WAS OBAMA'S SPIRITUAL ADVISOR.

Posted by: Coldcomfort | April 28, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Obama's big problem was that he was too quick to take the nomination for granted. For all his talk of being a unifier, he does not ever have seen the need to unify the Democratic Party behind him. Ohio and Pennsylvania were big losses for him. Those losses show that a very significant part of the Democratic Party has rejected his candidacy. It is hard to see that the remaining primaries are going to change very much. Obama will end the primaries with more delegates than Clinton but not with enough to win the nomination. Then we will see if enough superdelegates are committed to him to wrap the nomination up or whether there is enough uncertainty to take the contest to the convention. He clearly has connected with a large number of younger voters and significantly expanded their participation in the electoral process. Perhaps that will be enough to carry him to victory in November. But his failure to win in any of the major states outside Illinois certainly leaves many question marks attached to his candidacy, the quality of his political judgement, and his ability to lead the country.

Posted by: dnjake | April 28, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Obama simply can't lose general election. Obama should win nomination, as he is ICOMPARABLY better than Mrs. Clinton ever was, is, or shall be at any, pertienent to the presidential job, point of view.
Clintons out!! Enough of dirty lies, and criminal behavior in White House!

Posted by: aepelbaum | April 28, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

The Cure is a Clinton/Obama ticket.

Obama gets a chance to actually gain some experience, and America gets to see who he actually is.

then he can run in 12 or 16 years.
he's plenty young enough.

will Obama do it for the good of America and the good of the democratic party?

Posted by: Sonya | April 28, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

I will stick with my previous comments. If this whole bru ha ha would have happened back in February, before Super Tuesday, Obama would have lost handily, and Hillary would be the nominee with Obama as VP. Don't worry Dems it isn't our fault. The media failed in its duty to investigate all candidates equally, and gave Obama a free pass until about 3 weeks ago. Obama is going to win the nomination, and lose the election. Its a shame really, we should have had this one............

Posted by: DCDave | April 28, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

We all know the race-haters on this blog are Limbaugh listeners. Limbaugh encourages them and we ignore them, because we know they just don't know any better.

If they did it wouldn't be this way.

Posted by: isaac | April 28, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Jason said:
"It seems that those most offended by Wright are those that seem to be the closest in temperament to him"

If that was the case he would have offended only Farrakhan.

Posted by: Billw | April 28, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Obama and Wright are one in the same.

Both are vile, hate-filled racists who would love to destroy this country and kill all the Jews.

Posted by: B. Lloyd | April 28, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

James, if you find the Rev. Wright's church so very frightening perhaps you should arm yourself and go hide under your bed.

Posted by: So sick of this "story" | April 28, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Go Rev. Wright!

Glad I finally got the chance to hear him speak. He seems like a friendly old man just preaching the Gospel.

Rev. Wright is smart! He is witty and has personality +PLUS!

He is a man of God and is most definitely
energized. He may be stuck in the 60's but he sure seems honest. I think the 60's was mostly filled with either honest or loving or radical people. Most people kinda fit into one of those categories. I think he's an honest man and appears to have Type-A personality.


Posted by: reality | April 28, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

To recap:
Billw said (re Wright):
"His racist remarks speak for themselves, but it is (in my case at least, and likely with other veterans) not "hate-filled" vitriol", but instead resenting his hate-filled remark against the USA (from the pulpit yet). There is NO excuse for that. Please don't tar other people with Wright's brush."

NM Moderate said:
"I am not tarring anybody with Wright's brush. If you disagree with his views - fine - I disagree with them also. What the last few days have shown me is that Wright is not the lunatic he was portrayed as. He seems to me like a bitter old man with some kooky ideas. He also seems like an intelligent and responsible member of his community. He seems totally dedicated to lifting up the disadvantaged in his community. You and I may disagree with some of his more provacative views, but the measure of a man should be on the totality of his life's work. Given all of that, I fail to see why his association with Obama disqualifies Obama from the -nomination."

You originally said:
"Why is it that those of you who call Rev. Wright a "hate-filled ... (pick your derogatory term) sound so "hateful" in your posts? Does Rev. Wright represent some "hatred" that is actually inside of you?"

----

OK, fair enough. I accept you were not tarring with Wright's brush.

You ask if some have "hatred" inside that comes out in their posts concerning Wright.
I answered above. You have now turned to another issue, but back to your original question about "hatred". Care to respond to my answer to your question? It's at the top of this post.

Posted by: Billw | April 28, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

IS OBAMA'S CHURCH RACIST?: For those who think that Rev. Wright is not an issue in the campaign, I beg to differ. First, it doesn't matter that Rev. Wright has resigned; he was Obama's "mentor and spiritual adviser" for 20 years. Second, there is no dispute that Rev. Wright believes in and preaches black liberation theology. He admitted it on the church's website, before the church scrubbed the site for offensive materials in an effort to conceal their true nature. Third, I recommend that all read a few books about black liberation theology to learn more about Obama's so-called "religion," and make the determination for yourselves whether or not it has any relationship to Christianity or the teachings of Jesus. Just to give you a head start, here are a few quotes from a founder of black liberation theology (and Rev. Wright's theological mentor), Rev. James Cone, about Obama's religion:

(1) "To be Christian is to be one of those whom God has chosen. God has chosen black people." (2) "While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism." (3) "All white men are responsible for white oppression." (4) "Theologically, Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man "the devil." (5) "If there is any contemporary meaning of the Antichrist, the white church seems to be a manifestation of it." (6) "Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."

Now, if you don't think that the statements above are racist, then you and I can agree to disagree. The real issue is that Americans in general need to know about the racist nature of Obama's religion, because it goes to the heart of his character and judgment. Then, once America understands this issue, if they agree with the racist bent of his church, so be it. I have a feeling, however, that once people find out about this issue, he will be losing supporters by the droves. If it doesn't happen now, it will in the general election if, God forbid, he is the Democratic nominee.

Posted by: James | April 28, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Democrats must soon decide between Hillary's lies and McCarthyism, her being Bush Lite and not even a liberal, and the truth Obama and the Rev Wright are both speaking. Wright is speaking truths that are uncomfortable politically but they are not anti-American in any sense close to what GW Bush has done over the past 8 years or Hillary and Bill Clinton over the past 6 months. The Clintons are shameful and shameless. Time to bow out, Hillary.

Posted by: walden | April 28, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Joseph Pierre: comparing Rev. Wright's words to the crime of slavery is the height of stupidity.

Posted by: Maria | April 28, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

He may win the left and right coasts, Obama has lost middle America.
Posted by: Obama cooked | April 28, 2008 4:44 PM
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"lost middle America" Hmmm....I think you might need a little geography lesson - Iowa, Illinois, Kansas, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Missouri - that looks like America's heartland, right smack dab in the middle of America.

Posted by: Joyce | April 28, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

The people that believe that rev wright is a racist or anti Americans have been misled. If you speak to any white person that knows rev wright, they will tell you that he is not racist, and that he is a true friend to them. He joined the Marines by choice after hearing JFK's speech "ask not what your contry can do for you, but what you can do for your country" so he joind to serve the country he loves. After serving he recieved three letters of commendations. Most of the people that are calling him a anti American never did anything positive to help this country. Is it anti-American to speak out against injustice in American? Is it anti-American to speak out agaist forign policies that goes agaist what this country should stand for? WAKE UP AMERICA!!!

Posted by: Rob- Houston Tx | April 28, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

With respect to the media bias question:

My hypothesis is that America is run by energy, agribusiness, pharmeceutical, telecommunication, and financial corporations. It is pretty clear that Washington is infested with politicians representing these interests, and laws are written by them and for their benefit. IMHO, Hillary and McCain are owned by these interests who stand to lose a great deal of influence and $$$ if a grass roots president gains the oval office.

If there is a media bias for or against any candidate (and I believe there is) tearing down which candidate would most benefit the corporate overlords (best maintain the status quo)?

Posted by: Joebewildered | April 28, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

We have Kristol, Rove, Limbaugh, Scaife and Coulter lining up for Hillary. Looks like they have picked the easy mark for November.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Dan Balz: You've just turned an older white male into a ferocious young black man. Your campaign horse-race piece exemplifies what's wrong with the media and what's wrong with America.

You are a naive tool of the Clinton campaign, with no saving grace and no political angle. You don't care about anything, including doing your job well.

Posted by: walden | April 28, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

I am really sorry for Obama. I was sure he had dodged a fatal bullet with Wright. Like a horror film where the monster won't die...my god...Rev Wright comes back to life, and the media are there like the blood suckers they are. Waiting for the show. Oh my god...and a show they got. This man is a fool and just ruined the chance of a intelligent African American's chance of accomplishing the unthinkable in America. Who has an excellent talent in negotiation that could of helped us with our problems at home and around the world. Now...Hillary will get the nomination and lose to McCain. Why? The Republicans have so much dirt on Hillary and Bill Clinton that it will make Rev Wright look like a choir boy. Just wait until they unload on Hillary's sex scandals, her terrorist ties and the contributors to the Clinton library, just to name a few. Then all American and the World will see why the Republicans wanted Obama out of the race. Sadly...the result is going to be at least 4 more years of Bush.
If I may use the words of the ignorant, who allow the media to do their thinking for them.

God help us all.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

OD - Find me that gay, communist, cannibal and I'll vote for him too, even if he is caught eating a live boy in his bed. Your analysis is right on the money. "Reagan Democrat" is code for idiot that will vote against their interest and is easily maleable by fear mongering.

Posted by: Mr. French | April 28, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Meanwhile, in Iraq:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/28/AR2008042800144.html?hpid=moreheadlines

Last time I checked, Rev. Wright was not running for office.

That some of you are so threatened by the fact that a older black man (who was a Marine) has the "temerity" to take issue with some government policies is really laughable. You think that your cowardice is shared by the millions of people that support Barack Obama? Think again.

Posted by: Maria | April 28, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

matt,
Here's the excuse I usually hear from white people when you engage them about slavery: "we weren't there and have nothing to do with what our ancestors did".
Fair enough!
Except for the fact that Obama's supposed to answer for his pastor, everyone he's ever said hello to, and probably the twisters hitting the mid-west.
Ridiculous, indeed!

Posted by: joseph pierre | April 28, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Obama is done. Stick a fork in him. Its over.


He may win the left and right coasts, Obama has lost middle America.

The super delegates will surely look at all of these mess in selecting the nominee. Do not be surprised when Clinton wins the popular vote and they select her. Anything less is irresponsible.

Posted by: Obama cooked | April 28, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Good thing the Superdelegates don't drop their dresses at every tawdry tidbit that comes along in this campaign like members of our esteemed media do.

Regardless of what Wright does, Obama has this nomination locked up.

There is no chance (contrary to what the author of this article asserts) that Hillary could catch Obama in pledged delegates.

There is also no chance that the Superdelegates are going to overturn the will of the voters and deliver the nomination to Clinton because they realize this would basically destroy the Democratic party for years to come. Good luck winning a general election without African American voters, Independent voters, and a very energized group of young voters. Superdelegates are not idiots, they understand this very well.

Now the media (for its own selfish reasons) will continue to attempt to drive the process forward, however, it will all be an illusion because this race has been over since Obama won the 11 straight victories by huge margins.

Posted by: gthstonesman | April 28, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

I support Barack Obama.
I do not seek perfection in a candidate as I believe no such candidate exists. I understand that the candidate I support has both strengths and weaknesses. I have weighed those strengths and weaknesses against the strengths and weaknesses of the other candidates to arrive at my decisions. I judge the candidates by their own words and actions, not by the words and actions of others. Is there anything easier to twist than other people's words?

If the same analytical criteria are applied equally to all three candidates: past statements, ethical lapses, historical embellishment or distortion, questionable associations, Obama appears no worse, and in actuality, a whole lot cleaner than his competitors.

Also, I find Obama's revolutionary approach of treating the electorate as if they are able to digest and evaluate concepts that require more than a 5 word soundbite to be quite refreshing.

The problem with many Americans is that they can only perceive darkness in those with whom they disagree while being totally blind to the darkness in their own souls.

Posted by: Joebewildered | April 28, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Why do Balz and so many other "journalists" take it on themselves to give Obama advice, instead of informing readers (aka voters) about the issues and the candidates' stances on them, or other relevant issues that would affect our votes? If they want to be campaign managers, then let them switch jobs.
I'm sick of the media's constant puffing up of Obama and tearing down of Clinton. Despite it all, Clinton will win in the end because Obama has no experience, bad judgment, and cannot connect with working Americans.

Posted by: Oboy | April 28, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

The majority of these posts prove one thing. Racism is alive and well in the U. S. of A. Where were all these people when we heard the bizarre statements of Billy Graham against Jews, or Hagee against Catholics, or Falwell and Dobson against just about everybody except their narrow little right-wing clique? But when a Black preacher brings up our nation's past and present injustices...whoa! Rev. Wright's reference to reconciliation is right on. We can't reconcile when we don't even admit the wrongs.

I am a member of United Church of Christ, which has a long history of being active Christians. They actively follow Christ's teachings...that the greatest commandments are to love God, yourself and your neighbor. "Whatever you do unto the least among you, you do unto me." Think about that! When you help the poor, you are showing love for God. When you are hateful and mean, you are hating God.

Posted by: Joyce | April 28, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Dan Balz did very well with this article. He stated facts and conclusions that follow from logic, not emotion.

Obama will almost certainly win the nomination. He does not like the idea of "backing into" it. He has to face the Wright issue and the older, blue-collar lack of connection issue.

How he handles these issues will show what he's made of. Anyone is better than Bush III (aka McCain). Clinton thought she had a free ride to the nomination and acted imperious. Her reaction to adversity shows to her favor. She still has the negatives of "political" exaggeration (aka lies).

Now's the real test. Is Obama what he says he is -- a new beginning for America? His heart may be right, but is he up to the task? We're about to find out.

He should stop playing it safe and be bold. I'm waiting even though I have no say at all in the outcome. In the fall, I'll have to vote for whichever Democrat is on the ballot. If this mess doesn't get resolved soon, it could be Biden or Richardson.

Posted by: Harry, Los Angeles, CA | April 28, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Billw said: Surely. His racist remarks speak for themselves, but it is (in my case at least, and likely with other veterans) not "hate-filled" vitriol", but instead resenting his hate-filled remark against the USA (from the pulpit yet). There is NO excuse for that. Please don't tar other people with Wright's brush.

I am not tarring anybody with Wright's brush. If you disagree with his views - fine - I disagree with them also. What the last few days have shown me is that Wright is not the lunatic he was portrayed as. He seems to me like a bitter old man with some kooky ideas. He also seems like an intelligent and responsible member of his community. He seems totally dedicated to lifting up the disadvantaged in his community. You and I may disagree with some of his more provacative views, but the measure of a man should be on the totality of his life's work. Given all of that, I fail to see why his association with Obama disqualifies Obama from the nomination.


Posted by: Billw | April 28, 2008 3:43 PM

Posted by: NM Moderate | April 28, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Obama has:-

1/Wright
2/Ayre
3/Rekzo

Clinton has:-

1/Whitewater
2/Vincent Foster
3/Mark Penn and Blackwater
3/Mr Paul and the impending civil trial
4/Lewinsky and Bill's perjury
5/Rekzo
6/Wright(remember? He counseled Bill during his dark days)

Hmm.. what do you think? You guys think that the GOP will somehow give Clinton pass on all these ?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

If I hear one more Clintonite or right wing nutjob talk about Obama's 'decisions and character' because of something his pastor says I'm going to tell them to suit up for Iraq. Will humbly listen to them explain their logic once they show me deployment orders and explain the importance of 'good decision making' and 'standing up to what's wrong'.

Reality check: who was more right on things that really matter? If you don't remember, Obama opposed what his pastor said so everybody agrees we don't agree with Wright. Wwhat's the story then?

More importantly, only Obama opposed the war. Clinton? McCain?

Posted by: D Mytty | April 28, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Curious question: If the media drown out all the talk about the issues and only print the sensationalism about Wright to make Obama "look bad" despite having never taken the radical positions of the Reverand, does that qualify as a "Media lynching"?

Is this what this country is really about right now? This "issue" isn't any more important than abortion or stem cell research or whether someone received oral sex from an intern. It isn't about governance or whether Obama can be an effective representative for the United States government abroad. This is about finding a sensational story so you can point to viewers and sell advertising, not the public good.

Posted by: scott032 | April 28, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

George,

What the hell are you doing in MY country? When did you ever ask MY permission to be here?

On my mother's side we can trace our roots back through the first wave of English settlers. On my fathers we have roots that go back to the mid-1840s before Texas was even a state (German immigrants).

If you're native American -- good for you. If not, STFU.

Posted by: JP2 | April 28, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

To be honest, I don't think Obama will be talking to his former pastor on a friendly term any more after this.

Rev.Wright did come across as quite arrogant. Maybe he has forgotten his humble roots and must be enjoying this new found infamy.

I simply don't know what Obama saw in him back then but then again, we all make mistakes about people.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Media has Clinotn and McCain in one side and Obama in another. Media always tried to suport the former side. Obama is the people choice. He is the only person, who could be trusted with change, as Hillary would bring the same policies as McCain, but her personality is much worse than MCain's. This current fuss that Hillary is more electable than McCain with some pretty senseless polls with wrong timing to confirm it are another dirty trick of media to distract the public from the obvious truth that people want Obama and not Clinton to be nominated and elected.

Posted by: aepelbaum | April 28, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Yo OD!

You're homophobic and an a**hole. You might as well join the Bush campaign for the next one of their ignorant family that runs for office.

Posted by: John | April 28, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

JP2:

You're as racist as Wright. Why don't you both get the f* out of the country.

Posted by: George | April 28, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Hey Khajawall:

Do you really "disables" veterans? Man, you're a mess...and a disgrace to the rest of us vets.

Posted by: Joe | April 28, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Unbelievable. Hillary is now criticizing McCain for not doing enough to get the NC GOP to stop running its Wright ads.

What a lying ... sorry, there's no way I can imagine ANYONE supporting her. She's one of the lowest humans I can think of.

Posted by: gbooksdc | April 28, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

gooch -- there's the DNA from two parents who had the smarts. The family upbringing. Friends. Experiences. The spouse. The kids. Wright is part of the equation. But at the end of the day:

Wright is Wright.

Obama is Obama.

Posted by: JP2 | April 28, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

I continue to support Obama in spit of the recent controveries. I am not young, but I think the future of our country lies with our youth and I think Obams stirs their interest. He is truly being tested, this is great opportunity to test his skills and unifying the country. I hope he will keep addressing the issues and stay away from the rest.

Posted by: bal | April 28, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

This is a sad tale (bigotry) performed by a sad director (media) to a sad audience (idiot electorate). Appropriately enough, it's the latest sad tale from the increasingly sad country that can't graduate more than 2 out of 3 people from high school, pollutes the world, holds 1/4 of the world's prisoners, and has bankrupted it's future to communist and oil sheik bankers. But hey, let's focus on f*ing lapel pins and pastors - that helps bury the head in the sand!

The reality: This country doesn't deserve Obama or anyone like him. If you haven't noticed, he's determined to not be elected at any cost, unlike another Democratic candidate who will greedily and silently take 15% of her white voters counting 'race as important'.

Whatever candidate wins, this country has lost.

Posted by: D Mytty | April 28, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, Hillary, this is a non-issue. And McCain, I'm more troubled by your pandering to Bob Jones University than by anything ill-phrased or dopey Rev. Wright might have said. I sure hope whoever wrote this guilt by association article wore flag pins in both lapels when he did so and was humming the Star Spangled Banner or Dixie at the time. Otherwise, he's anti-American. Jeeze. Some of you people belong in the former Soviet Union.

Posted by: Sara B. | April 28, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

"Does Rev. Wright represent some "hatred" that is actually inside of you?"

A very asinine attempt to defend Wright. It is human nature that when someone spews out hate toward you without just cause, you feel animosity toward them. But... the fault lies with the perpetrater. One doesn't justify bad behavior by blaming the person offended by that behavior.

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You just explained the stance that Wright comes from.
Wright grew up in the civil rights era. Do you honestly believe he wasn't subjected to people spewing "hate without just cause?" Apparently you seem to be okay with his anger towards an unequal society that perpetrated that hate against minorities. As you said, "the fault lies with the perpetrator. One doesn't justify bad behavior by blaming the person offended by that behavior." It seems that those most offended by Wright are those that seem to be the closest in temperament to him.

Posted by: Jason | April 28, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

I am a soldier reading all this from Iraq. I cannot tell you how disturbed I am at this moment. I have spent 34 of the past 48 months in battle or training for battle... and all my country can do is squabble about Jerimiah Wright. I believe in Barack Obama. Not just his policies, but the process in which he will go about implementing those policies. Unity, sitting down at the table, transparency, diplomacy, empathy... and all I see are my fellow citizens behaving like children, fighting for the tablescraps of power. I understand what a McCain presidency will bring... another tour here, sigh. I understand what a Hillary presidency will bring. 4 years of partisan bickering, more stories of Bill, mudslinging from the Right and on and on and on. This is almost like a movie, a living nightmare that won't end. Everything is topsy turvy. I'm losing faith in our political system. I have yet to hear a single hate word spew from Sen Obama's mouth. Not one. I have not heard a single hateful character bash come from his words, not one. I have read his books. Beautiful, sound, in depth, visionary, truthfull, articulate... sigh. I am this close to resigning my commission. Our government IS broken. I no longer feel inspired to serve my country. Why am I fighting here? Why are we fighting at home? We can elect George Bush twice, and yet sling this amazing American possessed with tremendous talent in the garbage. If Obama is not elected, we get what we deserve. Either more war, or more of the same Rush Limbaugh bickering.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

You judge the quality of the fruit by looking at the tree it came from. Obama is the fruit, Wright is the tree.

Posted by: gooch | April 28, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

More Rev. Wright!

More Rev. Jeremiah Wright!

Everywhere the man goes, it's like the Nicholson line from a "Few Good Men" -- "You want the truth -- you can't handle the truth!"

Maybe there's some value in watching folks with guilty consciences squirm when the Rev. Wright steps in front of the camera. The man definitely has hit a nerve.

It was a thing of beauty last night watching the professional pundits desperately trying to figure out what box to put the Rev. Wright in. The truth is it's not Rev. Wright whose in the box right now.

As far as this relates to Obama?

If the man wins, it means that America might just make it through this current mess.

If he loses, I can guarantee you that the problem is NOT with Obama.

Posted by: JP2 | April 28, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

All through this campaign, Clinton supporters have been saying polls don't matter because Obama was leading Clinton. Now, on the ONE DAY when she blips above Obama on her post-Pennsylvania bump, they're all citing this poll.

One post above gives us endless innuendo about how Obama is secretly a radical Muslim, then in the very same post presents him as the candidate of the US nuclear and oil industries. Make your minds up. At least smear him with some consistency.

I support Obama for two main reasons:
1. He opposed the war in Iraq while Hillary supported it. Yes he did, and yes she did, and there's no wriggling away from that fact.
2. It's become apparent that Hillary's constituency is composed of those very "Democrats" who cheered the invasion of Iraq, who gave Bush his sky-high approval ratings in 2003, who defected to Bush in 2004 over silliness like the gay marriage scare.

Nothing would persuade me to stand alongside such people, who seem determined to repeat all their previous errors.

I'd rather vote for a gay communist cannibal than stand alongside these "Reagan Democrats", the dumbest of the dumb.

Posted by: OD | April 28, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

The Obama campaign claims that they have received donations by over 1,400,000 Americans.

That's means 1 in every 300 Americans donated to Obama's Presidential Campaign!

Talk about grass roots.....
Democrats win in 08.

Posted by: ApostasyUSA | April 28, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse


dylan said:
"Obama's a closet racist whose been exposed by his ignorant black preacher man."

That is true if Wright is telling the truth, and it should do Obama under.

Posted by: Billw | April 28, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Obama is in a sense a tragic figure. He let his ego drag him into this contest way before he was ready by dint of experience or politics. He has no voting history to speak of, no record to boast of, and he took no time or effort to examine whether his personal connections would haunt him, or how to fix it. He was so blinded by his unquestioned oratorical skill that he jumped the gun by 4-8 years. Now, he is unelectable in the general election. He is such severly damaged goods that it is hard to envision him ever being rehabilitated. A terrible waste, but like Gary Hart and many others, he was defeated by his own narcissism.

Posted by: dyinglikeflies | April 28, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Obama's whole campaign is nothing more than a cult of personality.

It just imploded.

Posted by: Obama's whole campaign is nothing more than a cult of personality | April 28, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

It is just great! Remember YouTube brought him up...I applaud CNN for the whole message and not just continued snippets. Nobody wants to be reduced down to seconds of someone else's interpretation. I'm sure many wanted him to just go away so that they could continue to use those snippets as propaganda, fear tactics, divisive, intentional mis-education purely for the purpose of winning at all costs politically and control. This administration is proof positive that this has been the way of this country for many years, despite what the constitution spelled out. It only comes clear now when they have pushed the classes further down the economic ladder that include not just minorities, but the working class white. They only want 2 classes and that is the haves and the have-nots.

Now Hillary and Bill Clinton are doing the same thing to win the nomination, reduced us to incorrect percentages of black versus white, wine versus beer, rural versus suburban, educated versus uneducated, all behind insane ambition and power mongering. The truth to power is that ALL of us need and want the same things in life. Turn your attention back to the issues, food, gas, health insurance, homes, education, jobs, wrong wars, and horrific money drain.

The least of our worries is Rev. Wright. Mr. YouTube has awakened this sleeping giant and now probably wants to put the genie back in the bottle. He is not running for president, but he is campaigning for peace, equality, REAL democracy, opportunity, dignity and respect for ALL people. This is what the Statue of Liberty and the Constitution of the United States stand for. It is to be lived, not parsed and spun, and harping on a lapel pin does not prove or disprove anything in the vein of patriotism. Wearing a lapel pin as a badge and practicing oppression and greed while wearing it, or waving it, while voting on bills divisively in the name of it is hypocrisy.

Wake up people and see the REAL wolf in sheep's clothing, and it isn't Rev. Wright.

Posted by: Dora | April 28, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

None of the propaganda out here on the sphere is aimed at anyone other than Obama.....go figure.........

The media doesn't want to be balanced, they want to be right...

Where's the Hillary propaganda?
Where's the McCain propaganda?

......crickets......crickets......

Posted by: ApostasyUSA | April 28, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

NM Moderate said:
"That would be me, BillW. I am not defending Wright at all. I was asking a question that you did not answer. Why do people describe Wright as being "hate-filled" with such "hate-filled" vitriol? Just a question - care to answer?"

Surely. His racist remarks speak for themselves, but it is (in my case at least, and likely with other veterans) not "hate-filled" vitriol", but instead resenting his hate-filled remark against the USA (from the pulpit yet). There is NO excuse for that. Please don't tar other people with Wright's brush.

Posted by: Billw | April 28, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Dan Balz comes through with another fine analysis, and the tests or trials of Obama serves as a good theme. However, the longer pattern of the media's herd instinct (aka groupthink) isn't observed here.

Just a hunch: this part of the media cycle will last through the coming primaries rather than changing beforehand. But if Obama wins both NC and IN, the direction of media "coverage" will quickly reverse. If he loses IN in a fairly close contest, Obama will be viewed as having lost the round but not the match, and more media attention than has yet occurred will be devoted to the pending contest in the second largest (to NC) state in this wave, Oregon.

Posted by: FirstMouse | April 28, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Since when did religion Denomination & religious beliefs became colorized and segregated.... "Black Church" .... I thought all Christians believed in the same things, Catholic's Had their beliefs , Lutheran, Baptist, Etc....So Now the Denomination beliefs are also divided by Color....Black or White Church's ? Sounds Racist and segregated....So we did away with segregation in the School's and everywhere else in the 70's at the persistence of the Black's,... but NOT Religion or Church's? .... Sounds Like a Double standard to Me !!!

Posted by: Rob | April 28, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

One might not agree with many of the views of Obama's former pastor and Obama himself obviouly doesn't. It is disappointing though to see the media twist the facts by showing misleading out of context clips to serve their own agendas. For example, anybody that heard the full speach would agree that it was humorous and interesting and didn't either belittle JFK or advocate racism.

Posted by: MR | April 28, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Despite the media spin, I think it is a extremely wise move that Rev. Wright comes forth at this time. He is clearly snatching the ammo out of the hands of the Republicans and Right-wingged media analysts, while at the same time causing them great embarrassment by revealing their deceitful intentions (it is now undebateable that those soundbites were ripped from their context).

Obama's judgement is JUSTIFIED in his decision to embrace Rev. Wright and Trinity United Church!

Posted by: independent observer | April 28, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

IS REV. WRIGHT RELEVANT TO THIS ELECTION PROCESS?: For those who think that Rev. Wright is not an issue in the campaign, I beg to differ. First, it doesn't matter that Rev. Wright has resigned; he was Obama's "mentor and spiritual adviser" for 20 years. Second, there is no dispute that Rev. Wright believes in and preaches black liberation theology. He admitted it on the church's website, before the church scrubbed the site for offensive materials in an effort to conceal their true nature. Third, I recommend that all read a few books about black liberation theology to learn more about Obama's so-called "religion," and make the determination for yourselves whether or not it has any relationship to Christianity or the teachings of Jesus. Just to give you a head start, here are a few quotes from a founder of black liberation theology (and Rev. Wright's theological mentor), Rev. James Cone, about Obama's religion:

(1) "To be Christian is to be one of those whom God has chosen. God has chosen black people." (2) "While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism." (3) "All white men are responsible for white oppression." (4) "Theologically, Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man "the devil." (5) "If there is any contemporary meaning of the Antichrist, the white church seems to be a manifestation of it." (6) "Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."

Now, if you don't think that the statements above are racist, then you and I can agree to disagree. The real issue is that Americans in general need to know about the racist nature of Obama's religion, because it goes to the heart of his character and judgment. Then, once America understands this issue, if they agree with the racist bent of his church, so be it. I have a feeling, however, that once people find out about this issue, he will be losing supporters by the droves. If it doesn't happen now, it will in the general election if, God forbid, he is the Democratic nominee.

Posted by: James | April 28, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Obama is unelectable.

Republicans have stuff from his history in Chicago that make this look like nothing.

They've been saving all the good stuff for the general election.

Posted by: Obama is unelectable | April 28, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Major republicans are designing several scenarios RIGHT NOW on the impeachment of Hillary Clinton should she, by some miracle become president. This is why they want her to win the nomination and not Obama because she is their best chance to regain the Whitehouse in 2012. They are assuming they've already lost it next election and they're planning ahead. No--this is not far-fetched. It's happening as we speak.

Posted by: Bill | April 28, 2008 2:28 PM
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Put down the bong and step away from the keyboard. Friends shouldn't let friends comment when they are high.

Posted by: Patrick NYC | April 28, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

It's amazing how the media is pushing the relevance of the Wright controversy. The man explained and defended himself adequately against the charges made against him. Obama is Obama and Wright is Wright. It time to stop trying to ride this dead horse and to focus on the real issues.

Posted by: EnoughAlready | April 28, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Hey Katy nice propaganda....

Sorry Hill but I don't believe a word you say anymore. Obama's attacks might be negative.....but there are certainly NOT false.

Pick ANY politician and you can make a list of "contentious" associations. Are people so obtuse? Maybe, cause someone out there just loves proliferating innuendo and propaganda about Obama.

None of the propaganda out here on the sphere is aimed at anyone other than Obama.....go figure.........someone fears him.

Maybe you didn't get the memo.....but this is the age of information............innuendo and propaganda is no longer useful psy-ops tools.

"To the special interests who've been setting the agenda in Washington for far too long, to all the forces of division and distraction that have stopped us from making progress for the American people, I've got one question -- Do you smell what Barack is cooking?"

I can't wait till this is over and I hope that Obama gets the nomination.

Posted by: ApostasyUSA | April 28, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Wright is no friend, no pastor, no spiritual mentor to Obama. If he were, he would NOT be going on a speaking circuit now to defend his inflammatory comments.

Wright is ruining Senator Obama's chances to win the Democratic nomination. Seeing Wright's picture is like seeing a picture of a snake--voters have become conditioned to be afraid, and that fear is associated with Obama.

Wright's self-promotion has destroyed any remaining chances Obama had at being the Democratic nominee. Poor, white, blue-collar voters will be too afraid and angry to vote for him. I hope Wright can sleep at night knowing he ruined the historic campaign of the first viable African-American candidate to run for president.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Obama chose the church and the pastor, chose to stay there (while others left), chose to have Wright baptize his children. He acknowledges knowing what Wright said, obviously was not offended by what Wright said over the years, and he accepts it.

So if Obama is willing to accept as a close spiritual mentor someone who continues to claim that AIDS is a disease being purposely used by Whites or the US Gov't to pare down the African American community, I am not being a racist in refusing to vote for Obama. In fact, i would be a racist if I DID vote for Obama.

Posted by: dyinglikeflies | April 28, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Even Karl Rove can't save Obama...

From the UK Times

April 26, 2008

How can Barack Obama win keys to the White House? Karl Rove offers a few tips
Karl Rove suggested that race, far from hurting Barack Obama probably works in his favour

Tom Baldwin in Washington

Karl Rove, who masterminded the last two Republican victories in presidential elections, is gazing with undisguised relish at the giant target being painted on Barack Obama's back before the next one.

In an interview with The Times yesterday, he described the likely Democratic nominee as a "frail" candidate, who represents the values of an out-of-touch liberal social elite and demonstrates "tone deafness" to the concerns of ordinary Americans.

"You have probably seen this kind of guy at London parties, trailing ash from a fashionable cigarette into the carpet and making snide remarks about someone 'being an abominable bore'," Mr Rove said.

He suggested that voters have not heard the last of Mr Obama's recent comments at a San Francisco fund-raiser, where he suggested small town Pennsylvanians were clinging to guns and religion because they were "bitter".

The candidate sounded, Mr Rove said, as if he was following in the footsteps of his anthropologist mother "reporting on the exotic species of voter he had encountered in some dark corner on the opposite side of the globe".

All this is a far cry from just a few short weeks ago when Mr Obama's soaring oratory -- his promise to heal racial divisions or transcend the partisan politics of an older generation -- had Republican strategists regarding him with shock and awe.

It is now the Democrats' turn to worry. Mr Obama's decisive defeat in this week's Pennsylvania primary has been followed by whispers of alarm that they may end up with a candidate who is listing badly -- even holed below the water line -- just as he is about to cross the finishing line in his race with Mrs Clinton. His failure to win white working-class voters in states like Ohio and Pennsylvania -- both certain to be important battlegrounds in November's general election -- has raised doubts about his fitness for the fight against John McCain. He sometimes appears drained by his fight with Mrs Clinton, a woman 14 years older than him, taking time off the campaign trail this week and setting himself a light schedule for the coming days.

Whereas he once energised rallies with the chant, "Fired up! Ready to go!" he now complains about feeling tired and the length of primary season, or says he wants to go home to see his young family.

If Mr Obama loses again in Indiana on May 6, then panic will spread through the party. His campaign spent much of yesterday explaining to the Democratic super-delegates -- who could yet wrest the nomination away from him, why he remains the best candidate to beat the Republicans. Mr Obama himself was busy shoring up his battered Everyman credentials by holding a press conference at an Indianapolis petrol station.

But Mr Rove said that "unless something extraordinary happens", Mr Obama's lead among elected delegates still means that he will be the Democratic nominee.

And, although it may be unwelcome right now, Mr Rove even had some advice for him. First, he cease making attacks on Mrs Clinton and Mr McCain, which are "corrosive of his fundamental message about representing a new kind of politics".

Mr Rove also pointed out that Mr Obama cannot stand on a platform promising post-partisan politics when he has virtually nothing to show on this front from sitting in the Senate for three years.

"He should spend less time on the campaign trail between now and September and more time in the Senate" trying to get such an achievement under his belt, Mr Rove said. "The best way to prove a message is to live it."

Mr Obama has also been embarrassed in recent weeks by his black liberationist pastor Jeremiah Wright, who returned to the airwaves yesterday to denounce the media for portraying him as "some sort of fanatic".

Unhelpfully, he explained that one of the differences between him and Mr Obama is that he "goes out as a politician and says what he has to say as a politician".

It is a treacherous, racially-charged subject, and Mr McCain has been careful this week to disassociate himself from Republicans who have launched a TV advert attacking Mr Obama's links with the pastor.

But Mr Rove suggested that race, far from hurting Mr Obama probably works in his favour by attracting white voters who regard the prospect of a black president as a "hopeful thing".

A bigger problem for Mr Obama, he said, is winning industrial states like Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania with a voter base that resembles "George McGovern's coalition of college students and white wine sippers".

Mr Rove cited polls showing that as many as 26 per cent of Mrs Clinton's supporters will vote Republican if Mr Obama is the nominee, saying even though such numbers were likely to come down before November, "there are going to be significant numbers of defections in this contest".

His scorn for Mr Obama was almost palpable as he described how the candidate had developed a habit of "parsing" when faced by criticism or complaining about rough treatment as he did after last week's TV debate against Mrs Clinton.

This makes him look like a whiner, Mr Rove said. "She has been getting tough with him -- but it's not as tough as it will get from all sorts of places in a general election."

Posted by: Even Karl Rove can't save Obama | April 28, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Someons said regarding Wright and Obama:
"What a mess."

Yes the democrats and blacks are stewing in their own juice, as it were. Where does the blame lie? Well it appears to have started with racist and anti-American comments from the reverend Wright. The man is a legend in his own mind.

Posted by: Billw | April 28, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

I listened carefully to everything Rev. Wright said today, and listened to his NAACP speech last night when it was broadcast on CNN. How come no one seems to get what his points were? He was talking about RECONCILIATION. He had nothing racist or sexist to say; he was very clearly talking about the black theological traditions. For white people who have been misled by the snippets of earlier sermons that seemed to indicate Rev Wright was a vitriolic, rabid racist who preached hatred, his remarks should have made it clear that he is nothing of the sort. In fact, his work makes clear that he has done remarkably important work, benefiting large communities of people, and setting a wonderful example of the good that churches can do.

What was also clear is that he is a man with an ego, and it seems that he was deeply hurt by how he has been portrayed. I could even see that he may be subconsciously envious of Obama's fame; after all, Rev Wright has been a towering figure in his community for a very long time. Obama is now arguably more famous and I can see where Rev Wright was desirous of redeeming his stature. Nevertheless, nothing Rev Wright said can in any way be seen as divisive. If you listen to the points he was making, he was acknowledging that people are different, but arguing that our differences do not make anyone better or worse than each other--he was arguing, eloquently, for equality and justice, for ALL of us.

Let's talk about that, instead of the political nit-picking.

I, for one, think Trinity is a church I would enjoy attending, and I'm a 58 year old Jewish woman!!

Posted by: Sandra | April 28, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Why may I ask are posters on here blaming Clinton for keeping this Rev. thing going? Turn on your TV he has been shooting off his mouth all day! He Rev. Wright has been doing more damage than Hillary could even dream of!! He just called Obama a politician he does not mean that he is playing a politician? I guess we should listen to this man he just told us Obama is lying to you typical white people! This will go in history books the Minister that woke America up just in time to vote republican!

Posted by: Loving it | April 28, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

The people who are defending Jeremiah Wright and, by extension, Barack Obama for continuing to attend Wright's church despite his inflammatory statements, should visit the Memorial in a Western , PA field dedicated to the people who died on the plane that crashed there as the crew and passengers fought to keep terrorists from crashing a second plane into our nation's capital.

It is beyond me how anyone could excuse Wright for saying what he said or, for that matter, any member of his congregation for continuing to attend his church following his statements after 9/11.

Posted by: Bob | April 28, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Someone said:

"Does Rev. Wright represent some "hatred" that is actually inside of you?"

A very asinine attempt to defend Wright. It is human nature that when someone spews out hate toward you without just cause, you feel animosity toward them. But... the fault lies with the perpetrater. One doesn't justify bad behavior by blaming the person offended by that behavior.


Posted by: Billw | April 28, 2008 3:06 PM

That would be me, BillW. I am not defending Wright at all. I was asking a question that you did not answer. Why do people describe Wright as being "hate-filled" with such "hate-filled" vitriol? Just a question - care to answer?

Posted by: NM Moderate | April 28, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

RESUBMITTED WITH CORRECTIONS, BUT THE CONTENT AND MESSAGE IS THE SAME: This case has been thoroughly reviewed and properly cross-examined. Ladies and gentlemen of the voting public, we have reached a VERDICT!! Barack Obama has been concealing who he really is: "a political game-player". He has made a complete fool of himself, black and white voters of America throughout the conduct of these primaries, the MSM and most of all but not least.... THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY!! How in the @#$^ do they expect this to translate into victory in November is way beyond my comprehension.

Posted by: Ebonyflash | April 28, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA AND REV. WRIGHT: I get tired of Obama claiming to be Christian, without explaining the theology of his church. Rev. Wright preaches BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY, a very radical form of "Christianity." Here is a quote about black liberation theology from its founder, Rev. James Cone, and you be the judge as to whether Obama's church preaches anything that even remotely resembles Christianity: ***
"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."

Posted by: Fred | April 28, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Senator Barch Obama stay with Rev Wright for over Twenty Years. It's almost haft of his lifetime. It's long enough for Wright Philosophy influence Obama thinking, Obama's philosophy.
Now just for Political Reason, Senator Obama want to distance himself from his Mentor, his Teacher.
I easily conclude Senator Obama is lying,
Why not a few Democratic Senators in Washington still support Senator Obama instead of Senator Clinton. I can only explain that they support Senator Obama since under Obama Administration they hope they could have their opinion heard. They think about their own interest not the interest of the Country

Posted by: Zien106 | April 28, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

There is some light at the end of the tunnel for Senator Obama - the more Rev. Wright speaks the more voters see him as individual who speaks for himself and that he has his own beliefs. The voters will see Senator Obama and Rev. Wright as two separate individuals. The media, the GOP, and Senator McCain can only get so much fuel out of the Wright controversy. My advice to Rev. Wright: Chill! Senator Obama, you just keep working at wooing the white voters in Indiana. This whole ordeal may be over (in your favor) sooner than you think. Good luck and God bless you and America.

Posted by: honkyponky | April 28, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

This case has been thorughly reviewed and properly cross-examined. Ladies and gentlemen of the voting public, we have reached a VERDICT!! Barack Obama has been concealing who he really is: "a political game-player". He has made a complete fool of himself, black and white voters of America throughout the conduct of these primaries, the MSM and most of all but not least.... THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY!! How in the @#$^ do they expect this to translate into victory in November is way betond my comprehension.

Posted by: Ebonyflash | April 28, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse


Someone said:

"Does Rev. Wright represent some "hatred" that is actually inside of you?"

A very asinine attempt to defend Wright. It is human nature that when someone spews out hate toward you without just cause, you feel animosity toward them. But... the fault lies with the perpetrater. One doesn't justify bad behavior by blaming the person offended by that behavior.

Posted by: Billw | April 28, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Rev. Wright Wright is loud-mouthed preacher who says a lot of ridiculous things, none of which has anything to do with the fact that Senator Obama is, far and away, the best remaining candidate for President. Best judgment, best temperament, and more in line with mainstream America than Hillary or McCain could ever be. Obama is not Rev. Wright, and has stated his disagreement with the 9/11 and AIDS comments. There is nothing in Obama's record or statements that suggests he supports any of this radicalism. That includes the David Ayers nonsense. With Obama, we have a once in a lifetime chance to elect a President who will at least make an honest attempt to get American politics out of the mud, and one who will keep the country safe without ever rushing to war with Iran, or Korea, and yet the media swallow the premise that Obama's pastor is somehow a reflection of his character or ideology and run stories ad infinitum at the slightest blip on the Rev. Wright radar.

It's nonsense, and any statements to the contrary are just a sign of allegiance to Hillary or McCain, and an effort to score political points.

Sad stuff for sure.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

I hope they do not debate. Because hillary lies whenever she talks I have to mute the tv when she opens her mouth to avoid being deceived. Can you imagine the frustration of a debate, mute, unmute, mute, etc. I don't think I could take it.

Posted by: fred17 | April 28, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Rev. Wright is making fun of JFK's famous speech by saying he did not pronounce the word "ask" correctly. But I have heard JFK's speech and I only hear southern accent. I think Rev. Wright is a bitter man. He also makes fun of Lyndon Johnson. It is disturbing that Obama felt that he needed to be so close to a man who can be so divisive and bitter about everything.

It starts around clip 0:58
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uuQLeK95Jw

Posted by: commenting | April 28, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

I Support Barrack Obama. Rev Wright; I found intelligent, humorous, and passionate last night and again this morning. He explained himself, his church and the sound bites we heard from his sermons. I saw, nor heard no racist undertones, anti white or anti Jew which I have heard and read on blogs. He was truly for understanding and acceptance of ALL. Of course the main stream media and public will need time to digest, and in the midst of a heated primary, emotions blind logic, so there is no telling what the outcome will be, in voters minds and medias spin. But if this PROUD NATION of BRIGHT, COMPASSIONATE PEOPLE, take a moment to THINK...they just might get it. To be different is not a threat. There is Nothing to FEAR in this Rev Wright, where Barrack sat in the pews for 20 years. He most likely was entertained and given a glimpse of "hope" as I was, as I listened.

Posted by: Lee | April 28, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

From Cox Cable News Today (April 28th but, of course, no mention of this in The Washington Post (they probably didn't see the story though. After all, it's just the largest news service in the world and probably only supplies about 30 percent of The Post's articles).


WASHINGTON (Associated Press) -- Hillary Rodham Clinton has a better chance than Barack Obama of beating Republican John McCain, according to a new Associated Press-Ipsos poll that bolsters her argument that she is more electable in the fall than her rival for the Democratic nomination.

The survey released Monday gives Clinton a fresh talking point as she works to convince pivotal undecided superdelegates to side with her in the drawn-out Democratic primary fight.

Clinton, who won the Pennsylvania primary last week, has gained ground this month in a hypothetical head-to-head match up with the GOP nominee-in-waiting; she now leads McCain, 50 percent to 41 percent, while Obama remains virtually tied with McCain, 46 percent to 44 percent.



Posted by: Bob | April 28, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse


Reverend Wright's latest comments have alienated more white voters and inflicted more damage to Barack Obama's candidacy.

But that's nothing compared to Obama's response about being too busy to debate Hillary Clinton.

Too busy?

I am afraid he's no more believable than his mentor, the Reverend Wright.

I've been voting for Presidents for 50 years--and never have I seen so many bad choices.

Posted by: rjldec1 | April 28, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Test? Obama failed a long time ago on the Wright issue. The press keeps giving him "make up" tests, and he keeps failing each one.

Unless Obama denounces this guy in unequivocal terms, he is saddled with what Wright has said and has never repudiated.

If Obama has the courage to stand up to the most extreme of his own supporters and say "This man Wright has espoused an immoral position on America, on Whites and Jews (in his support of Farakhan and his denunciation of Israel), he does not speak for me or my beliefs, nor is he my spiritual guide, nor do I believe he represents a morality I can defend", he can win the support of many in America who suspect that Obama's smooth talk has just been about "getting over". But unless he does that, no intelligent person, Black or White, who truly believes in bringing this country together, should vote for Obama.

Posted by: dyinglikeflies | April 28, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse


Reverend Wright's latest comments have alienated more white voters and inflicted more damage to Barack Obama's candidacy.

But that's nothing compared to Obama's response about being too busy to debate Hillary Clinton.

Too busy?

I am afraid he's no more believable than his mentor, the Reverend Wright.

I've been voting for Presidents for 50 years--and never have I seen so many bad choices.

Posted by: rjldec1 | April 28, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Obviously, Rev. Wright was stung by Obama's criticism and chose this moment to try to destroy his candidacy for President. He is an egotistical jerk. If the black community doesn't side with Obama against Wright, we might as well "wright" this election off for the Democrats. We can't switch to Hillary without alienating the black vote, which Democrats need. What a mess.

Posted by: Chuck | April 28, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse


Never doubt, DOES anyone doubt, that those
who wanted to harm Obama with the Wright
speeches have all already done so.

It was a phony ballyhoo, whipped to froth by opponents. And more of the same is
just more of the same.

Surprised at Baltz's even handed column though, perhaps I didn't find the between lines pro Hillary stuff this time

Posted by: raisa | April 28, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Why is it that those of you who call Rev. Wright a "hate-filled ... (pick your derogatory term) sound so "hateful" in your posts? Does Rev. Wright represent some "hatred" that is actually inside of you?

Posted by: NM Moderate | April 28, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Here's all you need to know about Hillary Clinton's radical past.

http://www2.nysun.com/article/66933

She has a lot of gaul to attack Obama with a past like this.

Posted by: Bill | April 28, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

COL.[retd] A.M.Khajawall
Disables American Veteran.
Las Vegas Nevada.
Thank you for your service to our country and may God's blessings be with you.

"What I call Presidential Temperament'". Sorry to disagee with you. What we need in our next President is EXPERIENCE, EXPERIENCE, EXPERIENCE. We certainly don't need another neophyte in the white house with rhetoric given out with cool "Temperament". Easy to talk about change, but how would he be able to bring about change if he does not have experience. Easy to talk about how he will not be under the influence of lobbyist firms but he accepted a quarter of a million dollors through individuals related to lobbyists i.e. $250,000,000. He is going back on his promise to accept federal money in the general election. When he did not know that he would be able to raise that kind of money, he was advocating one policy and now changed the tune. How can you trust such a person just because he has a cool temperament? Mr. Obama would serve the country well if he just drops out of the democratic race as suggessted by Mr Dean.

Posted by: urc | April 28, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Why do you "Hillary hang on hers" think the Republicans want Hillary to win the Democrat nomination???HuH??HuH? Could it be that with Hillary's baggage and the FACT that the Democrats will lose almost half the Democrat's party vote if she runs against the OLD Man.The SUPER delagates know this very well and after the primary is over in June look for the to wholesale Barack into the nomination.

Hillary is 60 years old and this will be her last chance so to Hell with the Democrat party" if I can't have it I''ll just take the party down with me!" Oh, you you don't think so> Well, when you see the Old Man doing a Bush impression "like screw you middle class dummies, I know best whats good for you, so go back to your rat race and let me do what I can to set up my presidential library with support for Big oil, The Corporations, Medical and Pharmacetical companys. Say amen for the G-D Rev. Wright, cause he'll be the least of your worries.

Posted by: wlbill | April 28, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

It seemsto me that Reveran Wright and Bill Clinton hAVE great deal in common. In the frenzy of the campaign, both have lost focus on the benefits of helping their respective candidates in favor of their own egotistical ambitions. As a result they have become destructive influences on their party in order to have center stage.
However, Hillary is married to Bill Clinton and one can only wonder if she would have put up with the international disgrace her husband put her through with his lies, impachment and sleazy conduct if she did not have political ambitions of her own.
I cannot imagine any self respecting woman putting up with all the embarrassmeto f his sexual escapades and lies if she did not have a political agenda of her won.
On the other hand, Jerimia Wright has his opprtunity for more public exposure than he ever had before and he is using it despite the damage he is doing to the Obama campaign.
Both are egomaniacs and wil do or say anything to be the center of attention.
Obama has already stated he disagrees with many of the statements Wright has made. If Obama is elected, I am sure Reverand Wright will not play an influential roll in his administration.
However,Hillary stayed married to Bill despite his many unsavory escapades and he will still be part of her life despite his unsavory connections,disgraceful sexual conduct and association with people he should be ashamed to associate with.
I think both men are overstressed and acting irrationally in a situation damaging not only to the candidates but to the Democratic Party,
They are both out of control and should fade into the background instead of imposing themselves in this way

Posted by: surrelle | April 28, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Dan Balz - thank you, oh thank you for telling me what to think!

Former Obama-mite - it's all how you spin it:
"he had to distance himself because he's a politician"

"[Rev, Wright]has been dismissive of Obama - describing him pejoratively as a politician who distanced himself from his pastor merely for political reasons."

Evidently you are a moron, Former O-mite, for basing your decision on something like that, so good riddance anyway.

Posted by: eek | April 28, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

And what of Clinton who said she would not stay with anyone who she disagreed with, and yet she clerked in 1971 with a radical communist law firm in Berkeley? Why did she choose to work for communists? According to her logic, she must have agreed with them. How will the Reagan Democrats vote for a candidate for President who worked for communists at a time when our soldiers were getting killed by communists? How will Hillary defend that?

Posted by: Goldie | April 28, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

COL.[retd] A.M.Khajawall
Disables American Veteran.
Las Vegas Nevada.
Thank you for your service to our country and may God's blessings be with you.

"What I call Presidential Temperament'". Sorry to disagee with you. What we need in our next President is EXPERIENCE, EXPERIENCE, EXPERIENCE. We certainly don't need another neophyte in the white house with rhetoric given out with cool "Temperament". Easy to talk about change, but how would he be able to bring about change if he does not have experience. Easy to talk about how he will not be under the influence of lobbyist firms but he accepted a quarter of a million dollors through individuals related to lobbyists i.e. $250,000. He is going back on his promise to accept federal money in the general election. When he did not know that he would be able to raise that kind of money, he was advocating one policy and now changed the tune. How can you trust such a person just because he has a cool temperament? Mr. Obama would serve the country well if he just packs up and drops out of sight.

Posted by: urc | April 28, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

As A sixty two year old white woman , I found Rev Wright refreshing and inspiring. I am not afraid to question my self , or my country .That was all he was asking us to do.
I don't feel Rev right being heard is hurting Obama , and am ready to join the grass routes up rising to made Obama our President

Posted by: Sue | April 28, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

I just watched the so- called snippets of the Wright tapes. And also watched him on Bill Moyers. The tapes are filled with real hatred for America, with distorted and vicious generalizations , with historical untruths, with sheer rabble- rousing against 'white Americans'.
I now have the strong sense that anyone who has seen these tapes will not in good conscience be able to vote for Barack Obama.
This is in a sense unfortunate and unfair for Obama is not Wright. But Wright preached this kind of stuff for twenty years and Obama adid not disassociate himself from it.

Posted by: Shalom Freedman | April 28, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Major republicans are designing several scenarios RIGHT NOW on the impeachment of Hillary Clinton should she, by some miracle become president. This is why they want her to win the nomination and not Obama because she is their best chance to regain the Whitehouse in 2012. They are assuming they've already lost it next election and they're planning ahead. No--this is not far-fetched. It's happening as we speak.

Posted by: Bill | April 28, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

I support Barack Obama. However, Rev. Wright has proven that he is no friend to Obama. Wright's appearance before the Press Club was not worthy of a man who has studied theology and knows the gospel. Obama is an entirely different person from Wright. Senator Obama was born in 1961 and is not a part of the Sixties generation. Rev. Wright is a throw-back to the 1960s, he is an anachronism, out of step with time. Listening to him is like going through time travel, moving backward. He talks as if Americans have learned nothing in the last 40 years. Has he forgotton Roots, Ken Burns' magnificent Civil War series, Black Studies courses, Nelson Mandela and the many, many Americans who supported Mandela and greeted him as a hero when he came to the US? Rev. Wright seems stuck in 1966. His perspective on the African American church is interesting, but it is just that--one perspective. I support Obama. I do not think Obama is responsible for Wright; I do not think Obama is responsible for Ayers. Barack Obama is post-Sixties, he was born in 1961, for heaven's sake, and he is part of a new and different generation, unburdened by the rancor and polarization of the Sixties. he was not a part of the Sixties divisiveness,as both Hillary Clinton and Rev. Wright were. I am younger than Hillary and much younger than Wright, but I came of age in the late sixties and early seventies and I am sick of the bickering and finger-pointing of that generation, exemplified by Hillary Clinton and Rev. Wright. If Rev. Wright had faith, if he truly put God above himself, he wouldn't have needed to do a PR tour, he would have trusted God to answer his critics--with God's almighty power. He wouldn't have needed to play the "dozens" as he called it. Rev. Wright has used God's name in vain, he has gone against God's work. He has forgotten that he is merely a servant of the Lord. Rev. Wright, in his vanity, has betrayed God, the African American church, and a member of his flock, Senator Obama. Rev. Wright needs to fall to his kness and ask God to forgive him.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

I'm confused about something. The last time I checked Rev. Wright's name wasn't on any of the ballots. It's just Clinton and Obama, correct??

Posted by: Patrick | April 28, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Despite the media spin, I think it is a extremely wise move that Rev. Wright comes forth at this time. He is clearly snatching the ammo out of the hands of the Republicans and Right-wingged media analysts, while at the same time causing them great embarrassment by revealing their deceitful intentions (it is now undebateable that those soundbites were ripped from their context).

Obama's judgement is JUSTIFIED in his decision to embrace Rev. Wright and Trinity United Church!

Posted by: independent observer.. | April 28, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse


Leanza Cornett said:

"WHY CANT THE NEXT POSSIBLE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES DENOUNCE AND RENOUNCE HIS CRAZY, ANTI-AMERICAN PASTOR? EASY; WRIGHT KNOWS TOO MUCH."

Obama does indeed appear to be hostage. Wright slams Obama, but Obama walks on eggs concerning Wright. Now all we need is for Farrahkan to enter the fray, after all Wright gave him "achievement of the year award" last year. Maybe Farrahkan will straighten them both out...

Posted by: Billw | April 28, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

I have just sent the following e-mail, entitled "Where Have All the Investigative Reporters Gone," to Ken Silverstein, Washington Editor for HARPER'S MAGAZINE:

In a November 7, 2007 article, entitled "Not Just Republicans Spreading Rumors About Hillary's Lesbian Affair," you stated that Will Folks had reported that "two different Democratic campaigns had told him about [Hillary's alleged affair with her aide de camp, Huma Abedin]." Further, you reported that Rod Shealy told you that, although "he had no idea of who was talking up the story... the only Democrats with active staffs and organizations in South Carolina were Barack Obama, John Edwards, and Bill Richardson." You closed the article with a request: "Meanwhile, if anyone down in South Carolina knows which Democrats are pushing the Hillary-Huma dalliance please send me an email in strictest confidence to ken@harpers.org."

My interest in your article arises from a concern I have about the obvious bias of the press and media, but especially cable news outlets, in favor of Senator Obama and against Senator Clinton. MSNBC has become a virtual 24/7 political campaign ad for Senator Obama. CNN is a bit more subtle, but biased, nonetheless. Lest you conclude that an ordinary observer hasn't the capacity or credentials to discern the inequities, indeed corruption, of the jaded journalistic entertainment industry we call the "press" and the "media," perhaps you will find the opinions of Walter Shorenstein, founder of the Joan Shorenstein Center on the Press, Politics and Public Policy at Harvard University more credible. In a memo to Democratic leaders and superdelegates, Mr. Shorenstein has cited studies substantiating the media's bias against Senator Clinton.

While the press and media fearlessly and with impunity say and print things about Senator Clinton that, under a judicial microscope, might even rise to the level of causes of action in defamation, those same "journalists" shrink from even the most modest of criticism of Senator Obama. Even when the evidence is credible and verifiable, as in the case of the African-American superdelegates, e.g., Rep. Emanuel Cleaver II (D-Mo) and Rep. Diane E. Watson (D-Cal), who have complained of strong-arm tactics, including "harassment," "threats," and "nasty letters," the Obama campaign has wielded against pro-Clinton, Black superdelegates to convince them to abandon Senator Clinton and support Senator Obama, the story finds existence, if at all, in the nooks and crannies of internet sites like Politico.com where it quickly evaporates under the excoriating steam of Obama storm troopers. The media refuses to conduct authentic investigations of issues about Senator Obama and his campaign that would be apparent to the most unsophisticated observer. Where is the basic curiosity and indignation of the "press" and "media" in the face of Obama's disingenuousness about his aversion to lobbyists, when, in fact, he uses them as bundlers? Where is the outrage of the journalistic historians who know that Senator and President Clinton have been maligned as "racist" for analogies and comments that were accurate and appropriate and which bore no semblance, either semantically or historically, to racism until they were twisted and spun by Obama and his surrogates? Where have all the investigative reporters gone?

Perhaps the "press" and "media" have left the Clintons twisting in the wind precisely because of the fear of being smeared with the same "racist" spin machine employed by the Obama campaign and the media against President and Senator Clinton. The "press" and "media" are so mesmerized by a caricature of Sir Lancelot that they have failed to perceive that Senator Obama, with ineffable finesse, has played the race card from the very beginning. What else is he doing when he constantly reminds the swooners at his rallies of "how improbable" it is that he, the son of a Black man from Kenya and a "teenaged" white woman from Kansas has risen to such dizzying heights? He certainly isn't referring to age or gender or socio-economic class (despite his attempts to play the poor kid, up by his own bootstraps). Afterall, upon entering the White House, John F. Kennedy was younger than Obama; all U.S. presidents have been male; and, if Abraham Lincoln, like Barack Obama, had been educated at an elite, expensive prep school, paid for by a grandmother who had been the vice-president of a bank, historians would have considered him the beneficiary of an affluent upbringing, not the product of a deprived childhood. Where have all the investigative reporters gone?

Where is the reporter who will actually investigate the Larry Sinclair story rather than merely perfunctorily dismissing it because Senator Obama has been dubbed Saint Obama and Mr. Sinclair has a criminal past? As I recall, a criminal was involved in the burglary at the Watergate; but that didn't exonerate President Nixon. Despite his youthful transgressions, Mr. Sinclair's case is replete with independently verifiable facts that can and should be reported.

To begin with, three Obama bloggers are being sued for defamation in the U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C. (U.S. District Court Case No.: 1-08-cv-00434-HHK), and the judge assigned to the case, Judge Kennedy, has granted the plaintiff's motion for limited discovery; yet, no one, no one in the mainstream media has even reported that a federal case implicating a person who might become the next president of the United States, Senator Obama, has been filed. The mere filing of the case, whether or not one accepts the veracity of the complaint, is newsworthy. Where have all the investigative reporters gone?

Secondly, the plaintiff's complaint raises significant issues, not only about Senator Obama's complicity in the bloggers' defamation of the plaintiff but about Senator Obama's use of crack cocaine while an Illinois State Senator, his gay sex encounter with the plaintiff, and Senator Obama's possible complicity in the execution style murder of Donald Young, the gay choir-master at Obama's church, in December 2007. While the latter charge might seem outrageous, given Senator Obama's sterling image, the plaintiff's allegations become more compelling when one learns that when the plaintiff contacted the Obama campaign in September 2007 to request that Senator Obama correct his autobiography to reflect that he still had a problem with crack cocaine as late as 1999, the contact person from the Obama campaign with the plaintiff was none other than Donald Young. Is there no reporter interested in ascertaining whether these allegations have any merit? Where have all the investigative reporters gone?

Finally, to date, Senator Obama has not denied these allegations; instead, he has merely responded to them by attempting, through his surrogates, to smear the plaintiff, e.g., in a recent interview on SuperXclusivo, Senator Obama's representative in Puerto Rico, Andres Lopez, a Harvard educated attorney, insinuated that Mr. Sinclair's allegations were merely the delusions of a mentally ill person. Mr. Lopez produced no medical evidence that Mr. Sinclair is mentally ill, and Mr. Sinclair has declared that he is not mentally ill. Even a lay person, observing the coherency of Mr. Sinclair's posts on his blog, might question Mr. Lopez's allegation of mental illness. Isn't there a reporter anywhere who is interested in resolving this controversy? Where have all the investigative reporters gone?

Even you and Harper's Magazine have not eschewed the printing of a story concerning "rumors" about Senator Clinton. Why, then, do you apparently deliberately ignore a story which can be substantiated by firsthand testimony and, according to Mr. Sinclair and his attorney, Montgomery B. Sibley, tangible evidence? Are you an investigative reporter? If so, why won't you investigate this story, or assign it to one of your subordinates for investigation?

If you believe that Mr. Sinclair's past should disqualify him from alerting the American electorate to a potentially fatal flaw in Senator Obama's character, I would respectfully suggest that you recall that neither Gennifer Flowers nor Paula Jones was unblemished. The American people deserve to know that the Fourth Estate has at least done its job, which it has failed to do to this point, of investigating and reporting upon Mr. Sinclair's charges against Senator Obama. Based upon your article, cited above, if similar charges were leveled at Senator Clinton, you would not hesitate to report them, whether or not you had fully investigated them. The media's failure to report Mr. Sinclair's story has been unfair to the American electorate, who cannot make an informed decision unless all of the facts are before them. Where have all the investigative reporters gone?

Without one to break this story in the "mainstream media," Senator Obama might be anointed as Sir Lancelot at the Democratic Convention but vanquished as Modred in the general election, or beyond, when the Republican penchant for impeachment for sexual misconduct will wreak havoc upon the Democratic Party and the American electorate. Then, when the devotees of Obama finally awaken from their trance, perhaps they, too will ask, "Where have all the investigative reporters gone?"
Esther
Sunday, April 27, 2008

http://larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/chicago-pd-meet-to-be-scheduled-more-high-price-lawyers-diggcom-served/#comment-5737

Posted by: Bob D | April 28, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse


Next to Bill, Hillary and McCain ... Obama looks like a choir boy when it comes to past baggage.

The nomination process is drawing to a close and Bill Clinton has yet to be vetted. When is this going to take place? Will Hillary just be handed the nomination over and above the legal and moral winner without Bill, who could prove (and has proven) to have conflicts of interests with his wife's mandate, first being vetted? Since Bill has again felt the need to ride to Hillary's rescue because Hillary is unable to manage her campaign on her own and she, herself, is lacking in popularity compared to her husband, we can only assume this pattern would continue in the Oval Office. We've all seen that Bill is a bit of a loose cannon. The question is, would he prove to be an embarrassment or distraction to a Hillary White House? What are his business dealings since he left office? Bill Clinton needs to be vetted and the Super Delegates need to seriously look at what a joint Presidency, or at the very least, an ex-President being back in the White House, would look like and how it would play out for the country.

Posted by: AC | April 28, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

...and quit saying "war against Islam", its not! Its against extremists!

Posted by: JeffH | April 28, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Can we discuss something of relevance please, like the war or the economy? Please!

Go Obama!

Posted by: noahsmom823 | April 28, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Hagee, Coe, and Wright.

I'd take Wright's and Obama's constructive criticism of the mess the US has become and how we can work together to fix it over Hagee's hatred and McCain's hypocrisy, or David Coe's desire for theocracy and Hillary's membership in 'The Family' with Brownback and Suharto.

Obama has the LEAST controversial of the three spiritual advisors who surround our current presidential candidates, yet is the only one who gets endless press coverage of his 'unsavory' associates.

Posted by: Dr B | April 28, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

katherine - I would agree if the relationship was actually a relationship, not a specious piece of nonsense. Are you the sum total of the people you know, or have ever known?

Posted by: Jim | April 28, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

I turn on the Chicago news this morning to check the weather and the first thing I see is a clip of R. Wright from the previous evening, working himself into another rant. Something like, "Arabic is not a language, its a culture." Then he starts ticking like a broken machine and repeats 3x, "Barak Hussein Obama." His public displays, ostensibly in defense of his religion, serve only to prove that he is unhinged, perhaps mad, certainly not filled with some sort of holy ectoplasm. At whose behest did he go on this promotional tour, now that he is linked with the candidate in an albatross-like fashion? Because he can only serve to ruin Obama as the decision, by whatever ruinous design, comes to land in the progressive mecca of Indiana.

Posted by: Belinda Carlisle Group | April 28, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Fear
FEAR
FEAR
FEAR

GOP tactics, how many will let this old dog hunt yet AGAIN?
i HOPE not

Posted by: feastorafamine | April 28, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

At the Press Club Conference, Wright threaten Obama when he said "I said to Barack Obama last year If you get elected, November the 5th I'm coming after you, because you'll be representing a government whose policies grind under people." What does this mean? This is really weird, odd and kind of scary. Why didn't Obama take this threat seriously? Why he didn't address this before? This is a serious and odd development. It is obvious the Wright has a stronghold on Obama. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9912.html

Posted by: Leanza Cornett | April 28, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

"It's a good thing that Reverend Wright's obvious disdain for white America surfaced prior to November. It has given some of those who were caught up in the media-perpetrated Obama hype a cause for reflection."

That right! No way I am voting for Wright. Oh, wait, he's not running.

Posted by: Jim | April 28, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

to blogger rajah kahn: yes, we mention ayers. it is not that obama is responsible for what ayers did. he isn't, but i think there is a BIG something Obama supporters miss: the way politics works in the U.S. i'm not against Obama, but i know how it all works. you CAN NOT be friendly with someone who formerly bombed the Pentagon and get elected president in the U.S.--never will happen. it's a practicality, not a criticism.

Posted by: katherine | April 28, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

The only reasonable, possible explanation to the Wright/Obamba debacle is that Obama agreed with his mentor for 20 YEARS. That is why Wright is out there giving his Black Recentment Speeches and Obama dares not refused nor denounced him because if Obama does, then Wright will spill out exactly what Obama said and how he felt for these last 20 YEARS. Obama cannot denounce nor refused Wright because the truth will come out. Wright is Obama's true political liability. Expect the following:
1- WRITE A BOOK.
2- CONTINUE TO GIVE NATIONAL SPEECHES.
3- HE WILL CHARGE FOR THOSE NATIONAL SPEECHES.
4- HE WILL APPEAR IN MORE COMMENTARY PROGRAMS.
5- DONT BE SURPRICE IF WRIGHT HIMSELF RUNS FOR SENATOR.
6- THERE WILL BE A WRIGHT IDIALOGY BASED ON HIS POLITICAL ANGLE.
7- OBAMA WILL NOT DISASSOCIATE, NOR RENOUNCED REV. WRIGHT.

SO ASK YOURSELF WHY? Why CANT THE NEXT POSSIBLE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES DENOUNCE AND RENOUNCE HIS CRAZY, ANTI-AMERICAN PASTOR? EASY; WRIGHT KNOWS TOO MUCH.

Posted by: Leanza Cornett | April 28, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

We are looking for an earthbound, competent leader to run the Presidency. We don't want a controversial untested "savior" in the White House, who is beginning to seem and sound more and more like the "typical politician", as pointed out by his own pastor.

Posted by: alee21 | April 28, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

ANOTHER OBAMA-LINKED RACIST PASTOR.

is under fire for racist talk Minister called U.S. mayors 'slave masters,' blacks who protect white men 'HOUSE N-GGERS'' exclaimed James Meeks, an Illinois state senator and pastor of one of the largest churches in the state,
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59735


ANOTHER OBAMA LINKED NUTTY PROFESSOR

Obama adviser, Stanford University law professor, Larry Lessig denies he had blasphemous intent by including in his lectures a video of
A 'GAY JESUS CHRIST SASHAYING NEARLY NAKED DOWN THE STREET down a city street to the tune of Gloria Gaynor's "I Will Survive,"

Lessig has worked actively on behalf of Obama to explain to journalists the candidate's technology plan.
Obama's campaign website currently proclaims Lessig as one of the industry experts supporting his technology plan to create a chief technology officer.Lessig, on his website, endorses Obama, describing the candidate as a friend and former colleague.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

It will all come out in the wash - this is hard but good for the campaign and good for America. We need to deal with this extremely difficult and historical issue - Dr. Wright said some very correct things last night at the NAACP dinner - 'we are all immigrants' except the indigenous people who were here originally, and how we see others who seem different, how we see ourselves, how we treat others who are different...all this is extremely important for the health of the country and going forward, globally.

Barack Obama has more than what it takes to lead us into a new world, with all its challenges, but we need to eradicate or at least begin dealing with the ills that are not being attended to.

I am believing that good will overcome evil, true evil, and that we will soon have a clear leader, with a large mandate to lead the country.

GO SENATOR OBAMA

Posted by: Carol McFarlane | April 28, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Obama has barely been "tested". The only way he's going to be "tested" is when he's forced to start answering questions about all the huge glaring gaps in his policy proposals, something that incurious MSM hacks like Balz will never do.

The only way he's really going to be "tested" is when regular citizens ask him real questions and upload his reponse to video sharing sites.

For instance, ask Obama why he "forgot" to mention another option:

http://lonewacko.com/blog/archives/007603.html

Posted by: LonewackoDotCom | April 28, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

The dialogue of the seventies went underground and disappeared in the hypnotic reflection of the disco ball and that strange white powder that would eventually morph into something called 'crack'. And that is what I wonder is what happened to all of us... did we crack? Now that dialogue is bubbling up in uncomfortable ways - lighting a fire to what has often been an apathetic election process and an electorate. A dialogue whose time has come ... you talk about change - you talk about a revolution. We want the change without the discomfort. And now we are in discomfort. DISCOMFORT - we have to look at ourselves ... another 'c' word - crap! Smile. I really hope our self interest will not topple that train. Obama wants to take on that platform of 'conversation' within a democratic dialogue ... and if you are practicing your values - you cannot shut others up, or - for that matter - censor him by austrasizing ... THAT would be un-American. We enjoy the freedom of the press here in America and the right as an American to voice our opinions. I don't wonder that if Obama does wish to respond - he does so 'pulpit' to 'pulpit'. The political platform to the theological platform. Rev Wright makes what I consider the correct distinction: Obama responds from the political arena and he from the religious - and therein resides the separation of church and state that is so important to the framework of our government. And he - Rev Wright has also 'separated' himself from Obama when states that he will then challenge Obama as the politician. Because this is one of the freedoms we enjoy in our country - isn't that what we continue to always fight for?

Posted by: The dialogue of the 70s | April 28, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

>Poll-E
"WASHINGTON - Hillary Rodham Clinton has a better chance than Barack Obama of beating Republican John McCain"

Yes, the polls are changing. Too bad the Wright and San Francisco fiascos did not occur early on. Had Obama's close association with shady chatacters and Wright, along with his mindset about small town people been known at the outset, the voting results would be different today.

Posted by: Billw | April 28, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

if this is what democracy is ALL about. Then democracy is very ugly. why?

How do you explain to President Mugabe, to hold a free and fair elections. when for the past 8 years America has been the chief proponents in RIGGING OF EECTIONS.

Now the Democratic party argues over either sticking to rules that were set at the begining of the primaries or change them in the middle.

I wonder what has come over America. Lack of the believe of rules and tenants of clean and healthy democracy.

Thank God that the internet now has helped us to learn about what America really believes.

It comes as no wonder as South American, African and Asian countries drifts towards China, just becuase of America is now seen as a fake country of democracy.

Posted by: d. a. mensah | April 28, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

I thought that "mcacain" was a racist slur itself?

Posted by: JakeD | April 28, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

POLL-E

i find it repugnant to vote for clinton her use of race baiting to get the votes unacceptable.

if she steals this nomination I will write in obama for i find no difference between her and mccain not on the war nor on their lack of morality, let us not forget that mcacain has used racial slurs in the past

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

REv, Wright has all right to defend himself against snippets blown out of proportion by Sean Hannity, Bill Oreilly, and the whole of of Fox news, The Joe Scarboproughs of MSNBC and Wolf Bleitzer and his crews of CNN...and Hillary. It's funny though that this same pastor was invited by Bill and Hillary to appease their mind when they were probed for Monica Lewinsky's scandal.Guilt by association???..One of the bloggers here mentioned about Bill Ayers,how is Obama responsible for what this man did and said. Did Obama put words in his mouth?" This man has worked to help build the community of Chacago,he did not only rub shoulders with Obama, but with other recognised people. Are they all guilty for what he said or done. This is crazy and stupid.

Posted by: rajah kahn | April 28, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

It's nearing absurd levels how the media still thinks Obama has a chance. It's not about Obama vs. Hillary. There is NO way Obama could win a general with his LONG list: Rezko, Wright, Ayers, Auchi, now Robert Blackwell of Killerspin. That doesn't even get into his wife's twisted views of life in America. This guy has only been in office for a handful of years, yet has the scandal resume of a lifetime pol. Obama for president: won't happen.

Posted by: katherine | April 28, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

The truth shall set you free- Come join us Obamanuts - We can beat McCain together!

Poll: Clinton has better chance than Obama of beating McCain

By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer 30 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Hillary Rodham Clinton has a better chance than Barack Obama of beating Republican John McCain, according to a new Associated Press-Ipsos poll that bolsters her argument that she is more electable in the fall than her rival for the Democratic nomination.

The survey released Monday gives Clinton a fresh talking point as she works to convince pivotal undecided superdelegates to side with her in the drawn-out Democratic primary fight.

Clinton, who won the Pennsylvania primary last week, has gained ground this month in a hypothetical head-to-head match up with the GOP nominee-in-waiting; she now leads McCain, 50 percent to 41 percent, while Obama remains virtually tied with McCain, 46 percent to 44 percent.

Posted by: Poll - E | April 28, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

It is not the "Clintonistas" who are drumming up the Wright issue. It is WRIGHT himself, who is so egotistical and full of himself that he cannot step aside and let Obama run for president without his interference.
With friends like Wright, you don't need too many enemies.
If Obama is able to give an effective response that silences Wright, who know? He may be able to survive this and win new people over. But it is going to be tough. Obama is already sick and tired of talking about Wright and when he is asked about this topic, it is clear his patience has worn thin.
I feel a bit sorry for Obama. The main reason he got involved with Wright and his church was because it was politically expedient at the time if he wanted to succeed in becoming an Illinois state senator. But now, the relationship is closing doors instead of opening windows. This teaches us all a lesson about politics: it may be smarter in the long run not to be so clever in how and with whom you network for political gain.

Posted by: Sylvia | April 28, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

How tilted is the media?

Obama did not say what Wright said in the first place.
In the second so little about the nuttier Mcain supporter Hagee
in the third if ayou are offended by the "bitter " comment i guess that means thaT-
YOU ARE HAPPY WITH THE HIGH COST OF THE WAR (IN BLOOD AND LIVES), THE HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT THE HIGH COST OF EDUCATION, THE DESTRUCTION OF THE ENVIRONMENT
OR CLINTON USING RACISM TO REMIND THE BIGOTS (yes clinton wANTS AND NEEDS THEIR VOTES TO WIN) THA OBAMA IS BLACK

GIVE ME A BREAK CLINTON HAS NO BAGGAGE????
SHE HAS THE HIGHEST NEGATIVES OF ANYBODY

MY THOUGHTS OF SOME OF THE POSTERS HERE THAT THEY WERE NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR OBAMA ANYWAY

IN CLOSING WHERE WAS THE COMPASSIONATE MCCAIN WHILE AMERICANS WERE DROWNING IN NEW ORLEANS???
HE WAS HAMMING IT UP WTH BUSH OVER CAKE-THE ULTIMATE PATRIOTIC GESTURE??? BUSH WAS WEARING A FLAG PIN

I GUESS YOU ARENT BITTER ABOUT NEW ORLEANS EITHER

I AM VERY BITTER

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

This is the same fear-mongering BS attitude that's gotten us to where we are now. IF YOU ARE AFRAID, THE TERRORISTS HAVE BEATEN YOU ALREADY. And why is it that people INSIST they don't know what Barack's policies are, when he's had a detailed PDF blueprint of all of them on his website since his campaign started?! You claim that he's such a left wing nutjob, but then turn around and say you know nothing about him! Grow up, wake up!

Posted by: Daniel | April 28, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

I think that Obama is the underdog in the race and will continue to be until he get elected as the nominee, Hilary will continue to attack him by playing dirty she is just a democrate with a red sheet over her head.

Hilary is trying very hard and she's succeeding at tearing Obama down her master plan has been exposed and she is trying to steal the nomination from Obama with the help of the wishy washey media ralling behind her.

Posted by: Jacie18 | April 28, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

I expected mindless drivel from the right wing wackos posting here, but what is sad are the Clintonistas who keep drumming up the Wright issue. If any of them had enough capacity for independent thought and had listened to his entire speech, they would have discovered that Rev. Wright was also speaking out against the oppression of women in this country. Oh well, they resemble the Bushies more each day.

Posted by: MikeMcNally | April 28, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

And what's with the people, that are 90% white, running around calling themselves black?

I think someone should start calling him the Rev. White!

Posted by: Jenn | April 28, 2008 12:50 PM


It is ignorant comments like this that has America where it is. If you understood history it might give you the answer. If you have a percentage of black blood in you system you are considered black. Here is a bullet. Please use it and save the rest of America from your stupidity.

And what's with the people, that are 90% white, running around calling themselves black?

I think someone should start calling him the Rev. White!

Posted by: Jenn | April 28, 2008 12:50 PM

Posted by: Proud American | April 28, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

re: SC
"...overwhelming Clinton at a time when racial politics were at the boiling point"


That was interesting timing, wasn't it? Weird how the Clintons' came out of the racist closet just in time to drive turnout among the disproportionately large African American share of the SC Dem electorate. One might wonder about that, if one were something of a skeptic of Sen Obama's loftier rhetoric.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

It's a good thing that Reverend Wright's obvious disdain for white America surfaced prior to November. It has given some of those who were caught up in the media-perpetrated Obama hype a cause for reflection.

Notwithstanding the fact that a twenty-year familial relationship with Wright calls Obama's judgement sharply into question, it begs us to ask what is this man really about?

What is this, as yet undefined, "change" he will bring to the political process? Do his supporters believe that, as president, he will change the congress? How? He is supported by the most entrenched Democrats there. Kennedy, Kerry, Rockefeller, Pelosi, Dodd, the list goes on and on.

How will he deny the special interests when he is surreptitiously taking money from them by the millions of dollars? One need only go to the FEc website and glean the outrageous numbers of oil industry, nuclear industry, and lobbyists that are giving him maximum contributions. Further, what was lost in the whole story of the "bitter" comments is that they were made in front of a gathering of billionaires and millionaires. Does anyone believe he won't be beholden to them?

Reverend Wright has done us all a favor by scrubbing some of the varnish off of the shiny new candidate, Obama.

Posted by: Obama Who? | April 28, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

The ministers speech last night was the upmost superb! Thumbs up Minister!

Posted by: joo | April 28, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

I like reading all these hypocrisy peddled by the media and thoughtless bloggers. You hear people saying, why did he seat there listening to this sermons for 20 years? Even HC asked this silly question.

B O is a busy person just like you and me. He doesn't attend every single Sunday and when he attends, like most of us we seat listen to a sermon leave the building exchange some banter with friends outside the church, into your car and off you go.

We don't keep record of the words, quotations of our church ministers, even when we disagree with them, we often silently seat for the 30 or so minutes or as long as the preaching lasts. If we have any questions or doubts we keep them to ourselves. Mostly, we take our grievances away and complain in private.

These righteous lot that wants us to believe that they burn mid-night oil with a tooth comb analysing their Bishops' sermon and that they dutifully challenge their priests the next Sunday pronto are liars. Let us see how many of you challenge your bishops. How many of you have had your children baptized by paedophile and boy-child abusing priests and you still go to the same church?How many of you have revolted?

Posted by: patrick | April 28, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Is Rev. Wright Italian? He looks a lot like my Uncle Louie, a Naepolitan native, who came to America over 50 years ago.

And what's with the people, that are 90% white, running around calling themselves black?

I think someone should start calling him the Rev. White!

Posted by: Jenn | April 28, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Good point, former obama-ite ; )

Posted by: JakeD | April 28, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

http://www.dontvoteobama.net.

Obama needs to tell us more about his relationship with Ayers. It's important because voters might well wonder whether that relationship, coupled with Obama's longtime relationship with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, is just the beginning of a pattern, a pattern in which Obama seems quite comfortable with people who really, really, really don't like the United States of America. Change. If you question him or his values or policies, you're part of the "divisive, distracting" practices voters associate with Washington. If you become an unquestioning, adoring political groupie, you're not. Them's the Obama Rules.
One day after being drubbed by Hillary Clinton in Pennsylvania to the tune of 200,000+ votes, Obama's chief political adviser David Alexrod was on National Public Radio claiming that white working class Democrats barely exist and hardly matter.
Axelrod said, "The white working class has gone to the Republican nominee for many elections, going back even to the Clinton years. This is not new that Democratic candidates don't rely solely on those votes."
Listen to this foolish statement on NPR's website here.

Posted by: DEMS WANT OBAMA OUT | April 28, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

By Ted Sampley
U.S. Veteran Dispatch
December 29, 2006
After only being a U.S. Senator for a couple of years, Barak Hussein Obama, Democrat Senator from Chicago, has managed to catapult himself to the status of a messiah in the Democrat Party. The result is that ever since, he's been walking on water toward the White House.

Obama says after his visit with friends and family in Hawaii during the 2006 year-end holidays, he'll announce if he's going to run for president in 2008.

Bets are that he will.

Who is Obama and what has he done?

Independent columnist, Andy Martin (Out2.com) says he believes Obama is a political fraud who "lied to the American people."

Martin says Obama may be a threat to the Jewish community because he is a closet Muslim.

"I feel sad having to expose Barack Obama," says Martin, "but the man is a complete fraud. The truth is going to surprise, and disappoint, and outrage many people who were drawn to him. He has lied to the American people, and he has sought to misrepresent his own heritage.

"Obama's life story is vastly different from the one he portrays. My point: if he will lie about his mother and father, what else is he lying about? Can we expect 'bimbo eruptions?'

"Fiction: Obama stated in his Convention speech: 'My father ... grew up herding goats.' The 'goat herder' claim has been repeated endlessly. It is a lie.

"Fact: Obama's grandfather, Hussein Onyango Obama was a prominent and wealthy farmer. His son, Obama's father, was a child of privilege, not privation. He was an outstanding student, not a herdsman.

"Fiction: Obama was given an 'African' name.

"Fact: Obama is a Muslim who has concealed his religion..

"He has treated his Muslim heritage as a dark secret. His grandfather was named 'Hussein.' That is an Arabic-Muslim, not African, name. Hussein was a devout Muslim and named his son, Barack Senior, 'Baraka.' Baraka is an Arabic word meaning 'blessed.' Baraka comes out of the Koran and Arabic, not Africa.

"Barack Senior was also a devoted Muslim, and also chose a Muslim name for his son, our own Barack Obama, Junior. Again, his name was an Arabic and Koranic.

"Fiction: Obama Senior was a harmless student 'immigrant' who came to the United States only to study.

"Fact: Obama was part of one of the most corrupt and violent organizations in Africa: the Kenyatta regime. Obama's father ran back to Kenya soon after the British left. It is likely Obama's father had Mau Mau sympathies or connections, or he would not have been welcomed into the murderous inner circle of rapists, murderers, and arsonists. I believe Obama's secret shame at his family history of rape, murder and arson is what actualizes him. Our research is not yet complete. We are seeking to examine British colonial records. Our investigation to date has drawn on information on three continents.

"And what about Obama's beloved Kenyan brothers and sisters? None of his family was invited to Boston to share his prominence. Are his relatives being kept in the closet? Where are they? More secrecy, more prevarication.

"It is time for Barack Obama to stop presenting a fantasy to the American people. We are forgiving and many would still support him. It may well be that his concealment is meant to endanger Israel. His Muslim religion would obviously raise serious questions in many Jewish circles where Obama now enjoys support," Martin said.

Debbie Schlussel, a conservative political commentator, columnist, was more pointedly critical about Obama's Islamic connections, she wrote on her blog, debbieschlussel.com/, "while Obama may not identify as a Muslim, that's not how the Arab and Muslim Streets see it.

"In Arab culture and under Islamic law, if your father is a Muslim, so are you. And once a Muslim, always a Muslim. You cannot go back. In Islamic eyes, Obama is certainly a Muslim. He may think he's a Christian, but they do not."

Is a man Muslims think is a Muslim, Schlussel asked on her blog, " a man we want as President when we are fighting the war of our lives against Islam? Where will his loyalties be?

"Is that even the man we'd want to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency, if Hillary Clinton offers him the Vice Presidential candidacy on her ticket (which he certainly wouldn't turn down)?"

Obama was born Aug. 4, 1961, in Honolulu, Hawaii, the son of Barack Hussein Obama Sr. of Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya, and Ann Dunham, of Wichita, Kan.

Obama senior met his wife, a white woman, when he was a student attending the University of Hawaii. Obama junior was born in Hawaii.

When he was two-years old, Obama's parents divorced and his father returned to Kenya, where he eventually served as a senior economist in the country's Ministry of Finance.

When Obama was six, his mother, an atheist, married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian Muslim and moved to Jakarta, Indonesia. Obama's half-sister, Maya Soetoro was born after the family moved to Indonesia.

Soetoro enrolled his stepson in one of Jakarta's Muslim Wahabbi schools. Wahabbism is the radical teaching that created the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad on the rest of the world. Obama later attended a Catholic school in Indonesia.

At age 10 Obama was sent back to Hawaii to be raised by his white maternal grandparents and to attend the prestigious Punahou Academy.

He attended Occidental College, followed by Columbia College and Columbia University.

After Obama's parents divorced when he was two, he spent only one month with his father before his father's death in a vehicle wreck when Obama was 20.

After college, Obama entered Harvard Law where he was elected president of the Harvard Law Review. He received his law degree in 1991 and moved to Chicago where he took a job with a civil rights law firm.

Obama was elected to the Illinois State Senate in 1996. He lost in a bid for the U.S. House of Representatives in 2000 and was elected to the U.S. Senate in 2004.

Obama says he is a Christian with "deep faith rooted in the Christian tradition." He is a member of Trinity United Church of Christ of Chicago, which on its web site declares to be a "congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian" and "an African people" who "remain 'true to our native land,' the mother continent, the cradle of civilization."

Trinity United Church of Christ adopted a "Black Value System" which pledges allegiance "to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System" and a "personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System."

According to ontheissues.org, Obama has proven himself to be a nearly perfect leftist democrat. He is pro-abortion, anti-gun, against ban of same-sex marriage, against teaching family values in public schools, against ban of flag burning, against privatizing Social Security, against the death penalty and three strikes laws, for hiring more women and minorities, for increased funding for health care and for campaign finance reform.

He believes in the separation of church and state - except when he campaigns in black churches.

Who is Barak Hussein Obama?

Many Democrats are promoting him in the media as the Democrat's best hope for winning the White House in 2008.

Referring to Obama's 2006 year-end visit with friends and family in Hawaii, Obama's half-sister, Maya Soetoro, recently stated: "He's going to make his decision here and announce it to us. Then he's probably going to officially announce his decision once he returns."

The Associated Press reported that Obama is expected back in Washington, DC the first week of January 2007.


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Posted by: Katy | April 28, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

According to the Rev., Obama...

"he had to distance himself because he's a politician" (assoc.press 4/28)

guess that's helping clarify things, and swinging my vote back to Clinton, come Nov.

Posted by: former obama-ite | April 28, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Wright compares himself with Chaney. At least Chaney didn't give Farrahkan the "achievement of the year award" Wright
is a two-faced hate-filled racist. He still gets some support though, since flawed people don't have much complaint with other flawed people.

Last Tuesdays voting in Pennsylvania was the first since Obama's Wright and San Francisco fiascos, and Clinton won big time. Clinton has some baggage too, but now she has a level playing field. Had voters known more about Obama's close dealing with shady characters and his hate-filled racist pastor at the outset, the overall voting results would be different today.

Posted by: Billw | April 28, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse


Dear Fellow Americans,

Our Great-grand Nation, the United States of America
is and will face very critical "Challenges" in coming
years and decades.

The Problems will be tough and solutions would not
easy.

The key will the cool, calm, and collectedness of our
next President[ What I call Presidential Temperament'
The one remaining candidate who has consistently that
Presidential Temperament is Senator Obama.

His message of change makes sense. We have to stop
doing business in Washington old ways. The new ways of
lifting each other up and stopping tearing each other
down will not held our Great grand Nation. The
Terrorists around the world[real] and inadvertently
assisted by some shortsighted media [Who are party to
this perpetuation of psychological terrorism of
mis-information, dis-information, and duplicity], that
is what we do not need.

In order to send the message around the world that
America is get Senator Obama our next president. At
least on thing he has shown consistently is the
presidential Temperament. The Temperament of our next
president is very critical address internal and
internal challenges. Let us defeat real external
terrorists snd internal psychological terrorists once
for all.

God Bless out Great grand Nation, its diverse people,
and Senator Obama. He is the ans her to our future
stability, security, safety, and regain our status in
the world.

Yours truly,

COL.[retd] A.M.Khajawall
Disables American Veteran.
Las Vegas Nevada.


Posted by: COL.[retd]A.M.Khajawall | April 28, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

The media will keep the Rev. Wright issue alive. They support McCain and Hillary because both of them are for giving them even more opportunities to form larger monopolies. Obama on the other hand would probably keep them in check or perhaps break up the existing empires. Think of the irony of John McCain walking around New Orleans saying he would have protected them, when he actively sought the support of evangelist John Hagee who said God gave them Katrina for their sins. The media doesn't want to explore it, it might bring out the truth. It's a shame to watch our country invade other nations in order to supposedly give the democracy and freedom when our own actions clearly show we are against freedom of speech and religion.

Posted by: Mike McNally | April 28, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

matt:

How many "Typical White People" do you think heard / saw Rev. Wright yelling "God D*mn America" the first time around? have you seen today's video of Wright making fun of JFK?

Posted by: JakeD | April 28, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

This is basically a mulligan on Rev. Wright. His campaign botched the first response, but luckily not many real folks were tuned in to what was essentially a media-right wing story. This time it's different. The "bitter" comments and Bill Ayers have put Obama's character in the spotlight.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | April 28, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

GO REV. WRIGHT!!!

Posted by: JakeD | April 28, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

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