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Obama Makes 'Closing Argument' in Clinton Country

By Shailagh Murray
SCRANTON, Pa. -- Sen. Barack Obama campaigned through the heart of Clinton country Sunday, courting the working-class voters of Reading and Scranton in an effort to close the gap with his Democratic opponent in the Pennsylvania primary on Tuesday.

Here in the birthplace of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's father, a stronghold in a state where the New York senator has held a steady lead, Obama rolled out some heavy artillery: Sen. Robert Casey Jr., his mother, Ellen, and assorted relatives, representing the first family of Scranton; and Caroline Kennedy, whose endorsement of Obama in January touched off a wave of high-profile Democratic support.

Obama's 30-minute stump speech -- his "closing argument," as he called it in Reading -- was a rapid-fire denouncement of Clinton, Sen. John McCain, the special interests that Obama asserts are now running Washington, and a "petty and trivial" political process.

When Obama brought up Clinton in Scranton, some in the audience booed to express their displeasure with his rival - an unusual reaction. "This is a feisty crowd," Obama remarked. "No, no," he hushed. "She's run a tough race, and I admire her." Then he delivered a 15-minute series of blows.

Obama addressed a negative ad Clinton is running in Pennsylvania that accuses him of hypocrisy in his refusal to accept campaign donations from federal lobbyists and political action committees. The Illinois senator is running a response ad that accuses Clinton of "eleventh-hour smears, paid for by lobbyist money."

He told the raucous Scranton crowd, "She's essentially saying, 'I'm bad, but he's just as bad.' What kind of argument is that? What kind of inspirational message is that?" And he sought to stir doubts about Clinton's trustworthiness, her biggest vulnerability with undecided voters, Obama advisers believe.

"You've got to be able to speak honestly with the American people about the challenges we face," Obama said.

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And another thing!

If all of you far-too-partisan HRC OR BHO supporters can't get over this tempest-in-a-teapot primary, just imagine what the Supreme Court will look like if the Repubs get to pack the court with more of their ilk!! Have you thought THAT ONE through, you screeching dipsticks?

Posted by: old white male democrat in Appalachia | April 21, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Just read about Bill being a great president, isn't there an old saying, behind every good man is a woman, and so what if he sinned, she forgave him, and that doesn't disqualify him from being a great president..she's always been for the poor and women and children, so i ask you many men.

how many times you cheated
and i ask all of you

how many times did you tell a lie and actually believed it....uh huh

Posted by: kasco03 | April 21, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

I'm with you old white male, vote dem no matter what, we don't need another repup in there

Posted by: kasco03 | April 21, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Why don't you petty minded people go to www.hilleryclinton.com and read about her, what she has done to help us especially the women and children............. God help you people when obamboo gets in, you will wish you had never voted for him, just like the bush voters wish they hadn't........

Posted by: kasco03 | April 21, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Roger, maybe it was hard work that made them that money, maybe by the time obamboo is 60 he may have that much also, but in your petty mind, did you think of that..........

Posted by: kasco03 | April 21, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Before voting do wish: "I want the people of the United States has the most ethical and virtuous new President."

Posted by: Bestwishes | April 21, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Shaynag (above) is right: the current primary blood-letting/"eat-our-own-young" feast will surely hand the Republicans the White House in November unless we somehow manage to fetter the hatred and unify behind whoever is the Democratic nominee. Talk about the Democrats and their circular firing squad!

OK, so you have a beef against HRC or BHO? Fine, put your bottom lip out, but for crying out loud, don't vote for McCain, and don't stay at home and sulk in November. A third Republican administration would be far worse than EITHER an Obama or Clinton one. Get over yourself, and do us all a favor by 1) shutting the hell up; 2) supporting the Democratic nominee, WHOEVER it is; 3) doing whatever is moral and legal to prevent the Republican elitists from stealing another election.

Posted by: old white male democrat in Appalachia | April 21, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Senator Obama accuses Senator Clinton of constantly lying and cheating. Except for Senator Clinton exaggeration on her Bosnia'
reception, the one that has been lying and cheating is Senator Obama.When he denies or non-discloses the fact that he has also been taking money from special interest groups, not being there when Reverend Wright blasted anti-American comments, like he meant something else when he accused "those people" of bitterness and clinging to guns and religion (pure elitism).Nobody really knows what else he has in his baggage but Republicans will find out and really hit him with it.

Posted by: fancydog@san.rr.com | April 21, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Lyn:{from April 20) Wow...you go girl. What a great editorial comment you've written. I certainly agree with everything you've stated.
Obama showed what a gentleman and stateman he is and will be when he gets to the White House. Thumbs down to Hillary.

Posted by: angel | April 21, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

If 90% of woman vote for Hillary, will we be saying they voted for her just because she is a woman. Golly, that would not be acceptable, would it? How unfair that would be to Obama - right?

I mean we are all voting for Obama for his many accomplishments and vast experience, right?

And than there is the subject of change. We are voting for Obama because he will bring us universal health care, an end to wars, an attack on golbal warming. I mean he is cut right out of the mold of Nadar, right?

It is comforting to know that many of you are voting for Obama because you are reasoned, fair and analytical.

Thank you for the gift you are about to give America.

Posted by: Al Kuhn | April 21, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Hillary lied about Bosnia.

Posted by: Chouteau | April 21, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Hillary loves Pennsylvania so mush that she moved to New York. Ha ha ha, the jokes on you PA.

Posted by: No McSame | April 21, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

The fact that Hillary knows she lost this nomination a long time ago, and has a 10% chance of winning, she fights mean and dirty -- Republican style. Even Huckabee had the decency to stay on message and not launch assaults against the nominee.
Hillary has lost. She and Bill are so scorned, that they have decied to trainwreck the Democrats -- all of them -- and her supporters, aides and surrogates are all going along for the ride. It's shameful and disgraceful. We Democrats supported Bill Clinton through thick and thin, in his sleazy 8 years, through his impeachment, but now, he and Hillary have degraded themselves, through bitterness that the people are speaking, and it's not to elect her! What a shame. I just hope the rank and file supporters will wake up and realize how destructive this is. It's time to unite this party to defeat John McCain. It's time for the voters to tell Hillary, "it's over!"

Posted by: Wanakee | April 21, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

First off WHO is Barrack Obama? Do we really know him? He disclaims the US Flag, I know this wasn't what America was founded on. And another point we may be forgeting is the draft that McCain did support. Havn't Heard a recent comment and sure wouldn't bring it up if I were him. Not now! If you have children you best be thinking Clinton on election day or???? Who knows...Give this man the Presidency of Our Country whose freedom was won by blood and he refuses to wear or honor the Flag. Please think in the booth!!

Posted by: Robert Garner | April 21, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

MY FELLOW "BITTER", STUPID, WORKING CLASS PEOPLE :-)

If you think like Barack Obama, that WORKING CLASS PEOPLE are just a bunch of "BITTER"!, STUPID, PEASANTS, Cash COWS!, and CANNON FODDER. :-(

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary's than they had ever been before or since.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton. :-)

Best regards

jacksmith... Working Class :-)

p.s. You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you don't know that the huge amounts of money funding the Obama campaign to try and defeat Hillary Clinton is coming in from the insurance, and medical industry, that has been ripping you off, and killing you and your children. And denying you, and your loved ones the life saving medical care you needed. All just so they can make more huge immoral profits for them-selves off of your suffering...

You see, back in 1993 Hillary Clinton had the audacity, and nerve to try and get quality, affordable universal health care for everyone to prevent the suffering and needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of you each year. :-)

Approx. 100,000 of you die each year from medical accidents from a rush to profit by the insurance, and medical industry. Another 120,000 of you die each year from treatable illness that people in other developed countries don't die from. And I could go on, and on...

Posted by: jacksmith | April 21, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone see Hillary Clintons speach this morning in Scranton P.A. when she said, " My opponent say's one thing while is campaign does another," wasn't it her on the stump campaigning against NAFTA when her chief Campaign strategist Mark Penn was executing a free trade deal for the Columbian Gov. Not to mention the millions of dollars Bill Clinton made giving speeches to foreign governments including Columbia. Also, how hard Hillary Clinton worked to help pass NAFTA. Then she goes on to say, " You can count on me, I'll never forget you," Unfortunately she had forgotton them as far as two decades ago, she didn't have them in mine when passing NAFTA. Then she goes into her bit, " When I was a little girl in Scranton," If she relates to Scranton so much why is she the Senator from New York, inwhich she never lived until her run for U.S. Senate. Hillary CLinton is so transparent it's a wonder how she won anybody's vote. People in Pennslyvania wake up. The Clinton much damage do you want the Clintons to do America.

Posted by: James | April 21, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

If Pennslyvania is Clintons country than why is she the Sen. from New York. Also how much was Hillary thinking about Penn. State when she was fighting to pass Nafta during the Clinton Administration. It's a shame their voting for her when she voted them out 2 decades ago.

Posted by: Susan | April 21, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

If all it takes to vote against Hillary is that her husband is an adulterer, then we better be prepared to vote against a whole lot of members in both Houses of Congress. Is there now a litmus test for a candidate's spouse? If this were true, almost no one would get elected.

Some of you are slso using the word 'hate' when referring to Hillary Clinton. Hate is a very strong,dangerous and personal word.

Hate might be used for the Suudanese Leaders and what they are doing to the people of Darfur.

Hate is what the Nazis' did to so many minorities during the '30s and '40s.

I rarely use the word 'hate' about anyone. I may disagree with someone's politics, but that doesn't give me the right to denegrate that person on a personal level.

Gutter politics has almost always been the 'American Way.'

There's an expression that I have used for many years and it is this: Your mind might be in the gutter, but keep your chin up on the curb.

Words have the unfortunate capacity of coming back to haunt the person who said them. This is expecially true of politicians.

No matter who the Democratic candidate will finally be, the words they have used against each other will most certainly show up in a Republican attack ad.

If the American people want to continue down this same old road, then we'll get what we deserve - another Republican in the White House.

Those of us who reside in PA have a decision to make tomorrow if we are Democrats, Clinton or Obama.

At the end of August, we must become united behind whoever our standard bearer is. Just remember that the next time you hurl an insult about a candidate. We should argue about the issues and not about the pettiness that has been written in some of these commentaries.

Posted by: shaynag | April 21, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse


The validity of Obama's reasoning is the core problem of his "bitter" remarks.

Posted by: Marie Peterson | April 21, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

obama will NEVER win the election even if he is nominated.

Posted by: lisa | April 21, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

When the phone rings at 3 a.m. in the White House, let's hope it is answered by someone courageous enough to do what's right for the country, not what's best for personal gain. Character is the most important quality in a president. No president can predict what tests will come, but all of us can predict that a proven self-interested liar will desert us in our hour of need. Why vote for such a person? The fierce battle in Pennsylvania has shown us that only one Democratic candidate has the character to be our next President. That candidate is Barack Obama.

Posted by: Eliot Carver | April 21, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Ditto from another Democrat. Hillary and Bill are simply masters at dirty, disloyal, unethical, dishonest, mud throwing politics. They are downright insulting.

Go Obama. God Bless you and America

Posted by: Adina | April 21, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Moronic, hateful comments are not the solution in discussing differences. I cannot believe the sexist and racist comments from both sides. Neither candidate is outstanding. In these dangerous times around the world, one needs to think about maturity,experience and leadership. Popularity is not leadership. This is not about personal mistakes but about competence on the job.

Posted by: Millie S | April 21, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

The post by LYN on April 20th covers the water front ... it would be hard to improve on her long, thoughtful and accurate assessment of the differences between Obama and Clinton. If all the down and out poor voters in PA could read it, Obama would carry PA by a huge majority!

Posted by: Babs W. | April 21, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

SHAME ON YOU HILLARY CLINTON.

You are intent on destroying the party you supposedly represent, and have taught people like me, a lifelong working class democrat, to hate you the way republicans do.

Good work, witch.

Posted by: jeffp | April 21, 2008 9:49 AM | Report abuse

PUHLEEZE!!! You think those are attacks against her?? While she throws whatever she can at him (Wright, Ayers, NAFTA, bitter-gate, whatever soundbite she can dig up), he hasn't thrown out the YEARS of insinuations and accusations against the Clintons! Isn't there a fraud trial going on right now against the Clintons?? Why are we not seeing mention of this in the MSM?
I used to be a fervent Clinton supporter; I voted for Bill twice and defended him during the impeachment. I admired her. Thank God I smartened up in time to vote for Obama back in February. This woman unfortunately has a history of lying and fraud going back to the days of Watergate. In all my years of voting (since 1972) I have never seen a Democrat campaign so dirty against another Democrat. Please PA, don't just hear the soundbites. Don't just want to vote for a woman (I would have loved to have a woman president). After much research, I did not vote for the lesser of 2 evils or a rock star or a Messiah. I voted for the candidate that I honestly think will be a great leader. PLEASE PA VOTERS, VOTE OBAMA!!

Posted by: littlequeenie | April 21, 2008 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Please refer to:
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/19/obama-draws-record-crowd-in-philadelphia/#more-4869
Obama says:
"That's why this election is our chance to declare our independence from the broken politics of Washington, the cynical politics that puts spin ahead of solutions and the special interests ahead of our interests; the politics that's all about tearing each other down when what we need is to lift this country up."
Now, how is it possible to believe anything except that Obama is just like any other politician who says one thing and does something completely different, considering all the negative ads he resorts to against Hillary and McCain? Why does Obama talk about "broken politics of Washington" or "politics that's all about tearing each other down" when he himself indulges in that kind of politics? I guess too many of us have been drinking the "Obama Kool Aid" for too long to accept this "inconvenient truth", to borrow a phrase from Al Gore. And, most importantly, what happened to Obama's positive and inspirational message of hope and change and "Yes We Can!"? It's still not too late to evaluate the candidates coolly, rationally, and logically, and and vote our conscience.

Posted by: Pradeep Srivastava | April 21, 2008 9:08 AM | Report abuse

My wife and I supported Bill twice, but we were thrown off the Clintons by their constant antics that led to the loss of Democratic office holders in both houses of Congress and in the states all the way down to dog catcher. We see nothing that makes us believe the Clintons have changed their ways and we think the losses will start all over again. The Democratic party took 15 years and the disastrous effects of the Bush 43 administration to claw its way back. We don't want to see this corrosive effect of the Clinton scandal backlash take effect again. This may be the last chance in our lifetime to see the Democratic Party come back, and now just as it is cresting , we see the Clintons come back to drag us down again. Obama is our choice to lead us back. People say he is inexperienced, but so is Hillary. She only been in elected office 8 years, actually 4 years total less than Obama. He has comparatively the same experience as Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt, and they did pretty well.

Posted by: major teddy | April 21, 2008 6:25 AM | Report abuse

Give her hell or at least make her think it was hell, to paraphrase Harry S. Truman.

Posted by: oldman&theC | April 21, 2008 6:15 AM | Report abuse

Take it to her Obamie!

Posted by: LetthemdrinkCrownRoyal | April 21, 2008 6:13 AM | Report abuse

For Change Vote Obama!

John Mellencamp Small Town
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eDkAG3R0h8

Bruce Springsteen Radio Nowhere
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmLt6kcZ72Q

Obama 08!

Posted by: Yeil Raven | April 21, 2008 5:07 AM | Report abuse

A quote from a Camp David conversation between Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton.

"What to do about white middle class voters?
Screw em, you don't ow them a thing Bill."

Posted by: vicbennettnet | April 21, 2008 4:23 AM | Report abuse

The republicans have Obama's number? Are you kidding me? If they have his number, then they have HRC home address and SSN!

The Republicans would roast Hillary in the general. Not only does she have enough baggage for a journey to Mars, she has acquired a matching set during these past several months.

The only thing that would save HRC in the General would be that she would be up against McCain.

With that said, as long as I have a choice in who I put in office, I will vote for Obama.

Posted by: Vance McDaniel | April 21, 2008 4:02 AM | Report abuse

Well said, Lyn above.

Go OBAMA!!!

Posted by: emon | April 21, 2008 2:27 AM | Report abuse

lyn who posted at 10:23, you made some very good points. I would add her pending trial for fraud (see Paul v. Clinton)which should most definitely been a bigger issue than Obama not wearing a flag pin. By the way, I didn't notice Clinton wearing one either. Also, where are her 2007 tax returns and why were they not released before the PA primary? Please, voters of PA, examine these issues!

Posted by: denni | April 21, 2008 1:12 AM | Report abuse

Obama... the next president!

Posted by: MPhillips | April 21, 2008 1:01 AM | Report abuse

Obama isn't asking for a job as a gardener or a security guard. He is a Harvard -trained Constitutional lawyer and right now he is a Senator, so he won't be needing that job you're offering. he's going to be President of the U.S. (POTUS for short). Thanks anyway, we'll send your ad to Donald Rumsfeld and Brownie.

Posted by: majorteddy | April 21, 2008 12:54 AM | Report abuse

On an Obama conference call with reporters Saturday, Gen. Walter Stewart said Clinton's misstatements about her trip to Bosnia as first lady mean she "lacks the moral authority" to lay a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknowns at Arlington National Cemetery in Virginia.

Posted by: Eduardo | April 21, 2008 12:51 AM | Report abuse

buzzm1====sorry buzzard.McCain, Clinton ,Obama all pretty much the same on immigration. tHE ONLY THING TO SEND 'EM BACK WILL BE TO HAVE A SEVERE RECESSION LASTING 10 OR MORE YEARS, WITH 28 MILLION PEOPLE WITHOUT JOBS.

Posted by: LetthemdrinkCrownRoyal | April 21, 2008 12:45 AM | Report abuse

If our GOVT. ever wakes up in WASHINGTON, DC, and do a Security Check on Obama he would not be able to work as a Clerk, Janitor, Cook , or Gardener a the White House. With his close ties to some of America's worst Enemies, how can we allow him anywhere near secret info. Obama is NOT fit to be a Senator never mind our President.
The real Obama, has too many close ties thru Rezko, with Saddam's close ties. such as Auchi, Saddam's money launder, & Iraq's former Minister of Electricity, Aiham Alsamarrae. Obama voted the same way Cheney did for Nuclear and that's the reason that GE will NOT allow NBC MSNBC to say anything negative about Obama.
Obama wrote a letter on behalf of Rezko and helped him secure a $100 million Grant to rehab buildings in Chicago. He used a silent black partner to get the bid to a minority.
The work was done on the very cheap side and the buildings were condemned and foreclosed on. The people ( BLACKS ) in Obama's district had NO HEAT thru out the winter of 05. Obama denies knowing anything about this. This is a small area that anyone and everyone with in Obama's District knows about.
*Seventeen buildings -- many with code violations, including a lack of heat -- ended up in foreclosure.
* Six buildings are currently boarded up.
* Hundreds of the apartments are vacant, in need of major repairs.
* Taxpayers have been stuck with millions in unpaid loans.
And Obama thinks he can make AMERICA run more efficiently.

1-Click here: Bill Baar's West Side: Carol Marin on Obama, Rezko, and slums
2- Click here: Eric Lee: Obama's slum-lord friend
3- Click here: MyDD :: FACT CHECK: Obama, His Contributor Rezko, the Slum Landlord Business
4-Click here: YouTube - Obama and Rezko

The Real Obama loves flying a Cuban Flag with Che Guevara on it at many of his campaign headquarters. Che was Castro's right hand man a terrorist who killed 10's of 1,000 of people in Cuba. Check out Fox news @ his Texas office

1- Click here: You Tube - Obama Communist Flag In Office!
2- Click here: You Tube - Obama and the National Anthem .

WAKE UP AMERICA, obama is NOT good for the Blacks, whites, or anyone but himself and his close friends with criminal backgrounds.

Posted by: USA Always | April 21, 2008 12:33 AM | Report abuse

"Hillary Clinton believes in the best things about the American people."

Is that why she so relentlessly uses negative advertising? Because she believes in the best about us?

A recent example of how elevated she is compared to Obama, the ABC debate:

1) Moderators raise petty, negative issues galore with Obama, Hillary agrees with them all.

2) Moderators raise one negative issue with Hillary. Obama doesn't pile on, instead he accuses the moderators of being petty for raising the issue.

I know which one I think represents "the best things about the American people."

Posted by: drossless | April 21, 2008 12:28 AM | Report abuse

all of these people that are talking about illegal immigrants i wonder where they are from? First of all, wouldn't be easier and better for them to have a license to drive? A better way to keep track of people, they can learn to drive. which is better? someone that does not have a license. I laugh every time someone complains about these people as if they are taking something away from them. Lets worry about gas prices, this stupid war, people getting laid off from their jobs, and Americans without jobs!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 21, 2008 12:27 AM | Report abuse

and there is even a smokin gun video..
When I heard it, I couldn't believe my ears!

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56305

but then I remembered these words:

"I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN"

and then it all made sense again..

Posted by: brioli | April 21, 2008 12:20 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: brioli | April 21, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Obama sealed his records from his time in the Illinois state senate. Dubya sealed his records from his time as governor of Texas. Seems like the same old Washington tactics. Where's the "change"? What's Obama hiding?

Posted by: jojo | April 21, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

We are less than 48 hours from ...Pennsylvania .

Posted by: PoliticalPuck | April 20, 2008 10:41 PM

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It is interesting to see whether or not PA voters buy Bittergate like Ohio voters bought Naftagate to have Obama lose. Some voters learnt later that it was Clinton who had met Canada's ambassador to tell him not to worry about her words on NAFTA.

Will PA voters see Obama elitist who earns much less than Clinton's 14 million a year?

Posted by: onomar | April 21, 2008 12:10 AM | Report abuse

the press keeps referring to obama going negative. yet that headline doesn't really match the story. he is mostly just defending himself against smears, not initiating new ones. and he has not stopped once to smearing hillary with all the many scandals that can be attached to her name.

love this part - now i say i believe obama is actually honorable and not resorting to dishonest b*llsh*t and people lash back that i am naive, hypocritical, etc.

sigh. fire away

Posted by: go for it | April 21, 2008 12:02 AM | Report abuse

Hillary might win PA but it will not be by much. People always change their minds once inside the voting booth.


Go Obama!

Posted by: Cheryl M | April 20, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

I could think of nothing more boring, than spending my luch hour listening to Hillary Clinton. No offense.

Posted by: Martha | April 20, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse

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The 44th president of the United States of America

President Barack Obama

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Posted by: + | April 20, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Tom said:What are they doing going to a political rally when they are supposed to be working? Synchronize your time clocks!
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Key word LUNCHTIME political rally. Typical Obamalama supporter. No comprehension skills.

Here is what Obamalama gets from "typical white people" in an unrehearsed forum, a diner...no love.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24228076#24228076

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Political Puck...

Hillary Clinton is nothing more than coniving, weak, insulting, liar. How can you sit at your keyboard and tout she is not an elitist? The only time Hillary is not hanging out with the rich, powerful, and famous is when she is on the campaign, telling ordinary Americans, "I'm just like you" while her and Bill made over $110 million in the last 8 years.

If the Republicans want to spend time running and re-running stuff on Obama's former pastor or his flimsy link to the reformed Bill Ayers, then let them have at it.

In 2008, Americans will be concerned with real national issues. The economy will be first and foremost. With the business news day-by-day that more companies are laying off people and going under, the price of oil at $117 per barrel (and on its way up to $125 by mid-summer),and the dollar the weakest its been in over 50 years, Americans are going to want CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN!

As the war in Iraq escalates, Sadr's Madhi Army will get more and more confrontational with the Iraqi government (and the US). I can see the hot summer months in Iraq being the most problematic for the US combating both the Madhi Army and Al Qaeda with American deaths and casualities going back up. Americans will want CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN!

Posted by: AJ | April 20, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

What are they doing going to a political rally when they are supposed to be working? Synchronize your time clocks!

Posted by: tom

LOL!

Posted by: tydicea | April 20, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

"Hillary will be in downtown Pittsburgh tomorrow for a lunchtime rally for those of us who actually work for a living."

Richard Mellon Scaife going to be there? Is he going to bring along the entire "vast right-wing conspiracy?"

[What a name for a rock band!]

Posted by: tom | April 20, 2008 11:07 PM | Report abuse

GOT HOPE?

Supporters say that winning more votes than Obama, plus her primary victories in populous states such as California and Ohio, would prove she'd be the stronger candidate against Republican John McCain in the November election.

``Popular vote matters,'' says Steve Grossman, a marketing executive and one of Clinton's top fundraisers. ``If there is an opportunity for her to pick up enough popular votes, that is a powerful calling card to the superdelegates to say the will of the people is a split decision.''

To earn that split decision, though, Clinton would need a 25-point victory in Pennsylvania, plus 20-point wins in later contests in West Virginia, Kentucky and Puerto Rico. Even that scenario assumes Clinton, 60, would break even in Indiana, North Carolina, South Dakota, Montana and Oregon -- a prospect that's not at all certain.

Record Turnout

More than just big margins, Clinton would need record voter turnout too. In Pennsylvania, she would need a turnout of 2 million, about half the state's registered Democrats; in the 2004 primary, about 800,000 voted. She would also need turnout to almost double in other states where she leads, and reach some 1 million in Puerto Rico, which is about how many Democratic- leaning voters went to the polls in a 2004 ...

Bloomberg:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=aLDu9y9lW3EY&refer=home

Posted by: Bloomberg | April 20, 2008 11:06 PM | Report abuse

"Hillary will be in downtown Pittsburgh tomorrow for a lunchtime rally for those of us who actually work for a living."

What are they doing going to a political rally when they are supposed to be working? Synchronize your time clocks!

Posted by: tom | April 20, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Not a word about her time as a "Goldwater Girl!"

Posted by: tom | April 20, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Hillary will be in downtown Pittsburgh tomorrow for a lunchtime rally for those of us who actually work for a living. Barry O will be at a college with the too young to know better & their professors - most are lefist-America haters like Wm. Ayers.

Very appropo.

Posted by: Pennsylvania is Clinton Country | April 20, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Hell, the Obama campaign hasn't even mentioned Hillary getting tossed as a investigator on the Watergate Comittee, for lying and fraud!

Posted by: tom | April 20, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Hilary truly has more experiences ......... more USELESS experiences!!

Why Clinton's loyalists are switching to support Obama? They see through her, a cut-throat liar. She lies about anything to get ahead and back stab anyone in the way.

I am in Philly and Obama got my vote!!

Posted by: MG | April 20, 2008 10:58 PM | Report abuse

"I do not understand why Obama camp do not start ad showing Monica swindle, Cathleen Willy, Jenifer Flower, Webster Hubble; the long list of 36 years of deception and scandals of Clintons."

Because Obama is honorable. Unlike Hillary.

Posted by: tom | April 20, 2008 10:58 PM | Report abuse

If you want McCain to win, vote for Obama. The Republicans have his number and know how to take him down and beat the tar out of him in November.

The only mentor problem Hillary has is Bill. Obama's mentors curse America. When they curse America, they are cursing you, too. When someone dumps on America, they are dumping on you, too.

Obama stinks!

Posted by: alance | April 20, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse

A vote for Hillary in Pennsylvania is a vote for continued negative campaigning into the summer, increased negative ratings for both of the democratic candidates, and a stronger chance that the same old, same old republican platform will rule the day in November.

If you're a democrat, then you should vote for the best interests of your party and country on Tuesday, and not on the basis of your personal preferences. Vote for Barack Obama.

Posted by: Amy | April 20, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

It appears Obama has a legitimate opportunity to finally eliminate HRC as a candidate for President.

Who has demonstrated themselves to be the most trustworthy, honest, articulate and uplifiting candidate throughout the campaign process? And who has run the most negative and trivial campaign of hypocrisy in recent history?

Democrats have a clear choice to make so it is incumbent upon the Obama campaign to bring the contrast to the forefront of public attention. Unfortunately for her, HRC has demonstrated herself to be an untrustworthy and unscrupulous politician of convenience. This fact is certainly reflected in the latest national polls so it up to Obama to finally land some carefully aimed counter punches and put an end to this fight. Can he do it?

Posted by: LH | April 20, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

We are less than 48 hours from yet another flood of excuses from the Obama campaign about why he didn't win another big state and why Pennsylvania won't matter in November.

To all those who are long-time Democratic Party voters: The GOP is salivating over the ads they will run against Obama. ... Everything from the Black Supremicist, Ameria-Hate'in preacher to the (allegedly reformed) terrorist from the Weather Underground who said he didn't set off enough bombs when he and his ilk had the urge a few years back to endanger innocent Americans.

Barack Obama is being gift-wrapped by the Far Left to hand the Republicans the White House again in 2008.

Hillary Clinton is tougher than many thought she was...she's battles and believes in the best things about the American people. You will never catch her at an elitist, Far Left fund-raiser smirking behind closed doors about the drones who vote for her and call them bitter voters who "cling to guns or religion" as a way to cope.

I like Hillary Clinton's mind, I like her moderate politics and I like her because she's a Fighting Democrat.


Posted by: PoliticalPuck | April 20, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

"I need to mention that Obama's stance on drivers license for illegals, and granting illegals a path to citizenship, is completely out of touch with public opinion, and could end up making it very difficult for him to get elected, depending on where McCain's position, on the issue, ends up."

Could you also mention Clinton's position on the issue, or McCain's, assuming you can figure out "where he ends up?"

Posted by: tom | April 20, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

As they say when the Democrats have a firing squad, its always in a circle.

Posted by: Angy_Blue | April 20, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Ironic how the best the Clinton campaign can come up with is attacks cut and pasted from Obama's campaign. This health-care attack is just the latest version.

Posted by: ll | April 20, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Questions ABC should have asked Mrs. Clinton:
1. Senator Clinton, you have been sleeping and keeping house with a known adulterer who also lied with his hand on the Bible. Why have you not denounced and rejected him? Does this mean that you approve of, even are yourself an adulterer, and have no respect for or do not believe in the Bible?
2. You kept your chief strategist, Mark Penn, on your payroll, although he had been working to pass free trade agreements with Columbia, also you continue to remain married to Bill, who also received $900,000 for such support, and millions more from China, Saudi Arabia, etc, known breakers of human rights and for China now with aggression against the Tibetan people. Are you therefore really for free trade and approve of China's and other nations' bad human rights record? Are you in fact a free trader and dictator at heart? Why have you not denounced and rejected Mark Penn and Bill Clinton?
3. Your daughter works for a hedgefund company on Wall Steet. Are you therefore a candidate for a hedgefund front and will take Wall Street over Main Street and over blue-collar workers? Why have you not denounced and rejected your daughter, Chelsea?
The ABC debate was disgusting--it was like watching a set-up/ambush/lynching of Senator Obama with the three on the stage doing a mob attack. It was more like a bunch of hoodlums against one honest man, with Hillary slugging him from behind. I am a senior citizen feminist who will never vote for Mrs. Clinton. Hillary believes she is entitled to her husband's ex-job, but most Americans dislike and distrust her, and on good evidence. We've watched Hillary lie with a smile on St Patrick's Day about coming under sniper fire in Bosnia. Watched her smile as she knee-caps Obama with distortions on words taken out of context. Watched her smile as she lies to blue collar workers about NAFTA and about her working class identity, she of the multimillions from shady off-shore corporations and with a Yale law-school degree put to the service of union-busting Wal-Mart. Senator Obama shows restraint and class in steering away from negative attacks on her, and whoa! is there a pile of *hit on record with the Clinton dynasty. Pardons in exchange for payback from criminals, Saudi millions for the Clinton Foundation, hundreds of thousands for support of the Colombian free trade treaty, etc, etc. Hillary cries for the camera to get the sister votes, chugs down whiskey chased with beer for the machismo barflies, and keeps intimate company with an impeached president caught lying with his hand on the Bible about not having sex with that woman. What does her sleeping with a proven adulterer and lying-under-oath President say about the company she keeps? The more we watch Hillary, the more we distrust her. The more we know Obama, the more he becomes our candidate to change dynastic business as usual in Washington. We citizens of the American Republic denounce and reject the Clinton dynasty. We want our democracy back.

Posted by: lyn | April 20, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

I do not understand why Obama camp do not start ad showing Monica swindle, Cathleen Willy, Jenifer Flower, Webster Hubble; the long list of 36 years of deception and scandals of Clintons.

Hillary is nothing but scam. How can Clintons make 109 millions in just 7 years without being renting Lincoln's Bedroom?

Hillary can lie anytime, anywhere!


Posted by: roger | April 20, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

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Hillary voted for the war

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Posted by: . | April 20, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Senator Clinton has been running negative, anti-Obama advertising since she began slipping in the polls many months ago now.

Desperately hoping to capitalize on silly "bittergate", Hillary's latest round of nonsense has only come round to bite her in her butt and reinforce the public's impression of her as a cut-throat, lying opportunist.

Barack Obama is finally, thankfully countering with a sort of fiercefulness the Clintons can understand, and the voters are liking his punch. He'd have preferred to not have to do this, but he finally gets it he needs to beat those people at their own games before he can rename and elevate the game.

Go Obama. There's no stopping you now.

Posted by: binkynh | April 20, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

'Wonder why Obama runs negative like Clinton who 60% of Americans regard as liar. Does he want to commit suicide with her?

Posted by: onomar | April 20, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Your "need to mention" is a desperate grasping-at-straws attempt to throw more mud at Obama than Clinton already has oozing from her hypocrisy-stained, ill-mannered campaign.

Befitting from someone whose Significant Other (besides her corporate backers) also has a "stained" history.

Posted by: phoenixresearch | April 20, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

The Dems have succeeded in destroying their reputations so thoroughly the Republicans must be simply giddy with glee.

If the Clinton/Obama feud were to end now there might be time to salvage their chances in the Fall.

But this is only going to further open up the festered wound.

The Dems self-destruction is no one's fault but theirs.

Posted by: dennis | April 20, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

I need to mention that Obama's stance on drivers license for illegals, and granting illegals a path to citizenship, is completely out of touch with public opinion, and could end up making it very difficult for him to get elected, depending on where McCain's position, on the issue, ends up.

Even if Obama does win the election, I can't forsee the people allowing him to push his illegal immigrant agenda. A wave of resentment against illegals is continuing to grow, gaining momentum even as i write.

Posted by: Buzzm1 | April 20, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Despite her campaign's relentless attacks on Barack Obama's qualifications and electability, Hillary Clinton has lost a lot of ground with Democratic voters nationwide going into Tuesday's critical primary in Pennsylvania, a new NEWSWEEK Poll shows.

The survey of 1,209 registered voters found that Obama now leads Clinton by nearly 20 points, or 54 percent to 35 percent, among registered Democrats and those who lean Democratic nationwide. The previous NEWSWEEK Poll, conducted in March after Clinton's big primary wins in Ohio and Texas, showed the two Democrats locked in a statistical tie (45 percent for Obama to 44 percent for Clinton). The new poll puts Obama ahead among women as well as men, and voters aged 60 and older as well as younger voters. (For the complete poll data, click here).

One of the more devastating results for Clinton was that a majority of all registered voters now see her as dishonest and untrustworthy.

Posted by: tydicea | April 20, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

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