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Obama on Rev. Wright: "He Does Not Speak for Me"


Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) speaks during a news conference at Wilmington Airport in Wilmington, N.C., April 28, 2008. (Associated Press)

By Peter Slevin
WILSON, N.C. -- Sen. Barack Obama wants everyone to know that he is not the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and that the talkative Wright does not speak for him.

On a day when his longtime pastor at Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ seemed to pop up every five minutes in the mainstream media and the blogosphere, Obama emphasized the distance between them.

"I have said before and I will repeat again that some of the comments that Reverend Wright have made offend me and I understand why they've offended the American people," Obama said in a brief airport tarmac press conference in Wilmington, N.C.

"He does not speak for me," Obama said. "He does not speak for the campaign. He may make statements in the future that don't reflect my values or concerns."

Obama was asked if he felt betrayed by Wright, who played a significant role in Obama's spiritual life for 20 years, performed his wedding and inspired the title of Obama's most recent book, "The Audacity of Hope."

"I just want to emphasize that this is my former pastor," Obama said. "Any of the statements that he's made both to trigger this controversy and that he's made over the last several days are not statements that I've heard him make previously. They don't represent my views. And they don't represent what this campaign's about."

Obama did not mention Wright at the University of North Carolina-Wilmington, where he spoke and took questions for about 80 minutes. In response to a question about his faith, Obama spoke at length but did not use it as an opening to say yet more about Wright.

No one in the enthusiastic 5,000-person crowd asked him about the controversy, nor did anyone tonight among 1,900 people packed into a high school gym in Wilson. Obama is due to lead a rally later in Chapel Hill inside the Dean Smith Center, better known as the Dean Dome, during his third and final event of the day.

Focusing on the crucial days before the May 6 primaries in North Carolina and Indiana, Obama seemed determined to wrench his campaign back to the basic messages that propelled him to a strong lead in pledged delegates. He spoke of moving away from "distortions and distractions."

And he got a standing ovation after telling the crowd that he was determined to move beyond a rough stretch of the campaign that he described as overly negative, not to mention injurious to the health of his candidacy.

"Having politicians bickering back and forth doesn't help you," Obama said. "Having them worrying about superdelegates doesn't help you. This election is not about me. It's not about Senator Clinton. It's not about John McCain. It's about you. It's about your struggles, your hopes and dreams."

The crowd roared.

Obama said that his campaign in recent weeks got "sucked into this whole negative thing. People throw elbows at you. You start feeling like, 'Oh, I got to throw an elbow back,'" Obama said. "I told this to my team, that we are starting to sound like other folks. We're starting to run the same negative stuff and it shows that none of us are immune from this kind of politics."

He added, "For the next nine days, between now and May 6, and the next nine months between now and November, and the next nine years" -- and here he was interrupted by cheers -- "I am going to spend all my time talking about you."

On the tarmac in Wilmington, Obama was asked how he intends to move beyond Wright, with all the attention Wright is getting from the media, as well as from Clinton and presumptive Republican nominee Sen. John McCain.

"What I think is interesting is none of the voters I talk to ask about it," Obama said. "Now, there may be people who are troubled about it and are being polite in not asking me about it. But that's not what I hear from the voters. What I'm hearing is concerns about gas prices. I'm hearing from people concerned about their jobs being shifted overseas."

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CLINTON WHO?

...CAUSE CATCHING UP IS HAAARD TO DOOOOO

GO NORTH CAROLINA!

Posted by: eljefejesus | May 6, 2008 2:52 AM | Report abuse

GO CLINTON!!!

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse


Is it necessary to do or say some mind boggling thing to get media attention. I don'tknow . It's just politricks.
Preachers know that to grab the attention of a mind wandering audience,in your sermon you build a figurative bridge, build a figurative fire, then destroy the figurative bridge if necessary so that people can examine their options.Your sermon soaked in prayer backed up with scripture from the Bible then has got their attention.
Julius Caesar, history tells us, once did something similar by ordering his army the centurions etc to burn their ships on the shores of a foreign land.
Julius Caesar by issuing such a command inspired a fighting spirit and loyalty in his men to fight so that they could win the battle and win the war and go home to their loved ones.How does that relate to Reverend Jeremiah Wright? As an individual, he may have by deliberate intention focused the media mindset on the stark realities of prejudice.Racial prejudice, religious prejudice,bigotism,bitterness,hatred,malice,unfair media coverage,soundbites and deliberate mind manipulation in this high tech society and the need for reconciliation, truth,self examination, forgiveness,confession,repentance and constructive engagement in this present society.
Will it damage Barak? Who knows.Does America care for Barak with all the media frenzy and media post mortems of his name,his freinds, his associates ?.Yes some American's care. Others don't ,if you read the positive and negative chatlines, some do and some don't. So what. Nobody is perfect. Some people like you others hATE YOU .SO WHAT. THAT'S REALITY.
America may need to have its own TRUTH COMMISSION for a reality check up. Will America have one? Who knows? Does America care?Yes.America cares for the good,the prospering,the dreamers, the ambitious ,the good and the not so good,the downtrodden,the sick ,the lame ,the unwanted,the ones with dreams and broken dreams. Some people are honest and others are not so honest.So what? NOBODY IS PERFECT. WE ALL HAVE OUR FAULTS ....BUT THERE IS SELF IMPROVEMENT and rehabilation for those who need it!!!!
There is strong undercurrents of a reality check up. Why?. Look back to KATRINA, HURRICANE KATRINA.Look back to yesterday down memory lane when everything was perfect until someone broke your dreams.
The ostrich likes to bury it's head in the sand and the ostrich some say thinks as long as its head is buried in the sand , it's vision is impaired and restricted and in this ostrich mindset what it cannot see the ostrich believes in it it's ostrich birdbrain is not there? The ostrich needs a reality check up.
America is a great country. America is an IMMIGRANT BASED COUNTRY. That is why it is great. The beacon of hope of democracy. The open forum of democracy allows freedom of speech because America believes all men are created equal. That is on paper . That is in black and white,but some do not accept that because of the way they were brought up.
sOME OF THEIR TEACHERS MAY HAVE told them that some people are inferior to them and other people are superior. That is wrong teaching.tHAT IS WHY THERE IS SO MUCH CONTROVERSY TO DAY. The truth will set you free.
South Africa under NELSON MANDELA had a time of TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION. Things that worried and hurt and disturbed and offended many people had to be talked about. PEACEFULLLY, TRUTHFULLY, IN AN ATMOSPHERE OF RECONCILIATION WITHOUT RETRIBUTION,UNDER THE BANNER OF FORGIVENESS AND TRUE PEACE OF MIND.
GOD BLESS AMERICA. GOD BLESS TRUTH AND GOD BLESS RECONCILIATION.GOD BLESS THE PEACEMAKERS.
All this mudslinging politics and slinging back mud, and negative below the belt teleads is no good. Look how much money candidates are blatantly spending to get elected when there is a food crisis in AFRICA AND DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE WORLD. But people are so concerned with their own point of view they will forget people are dying without food, without democracy, without hope in other nations.
Maybe REVEREND WRIGHT MAY BE WRONG IN THE WAY HE SAYS WHAT HE SAYS, but maybe we need to take a GOOD LONG LOOK at ourselves.Maybe,it is time for self examination .Time for honest self judgement.Is it right to think about self first and others last? Is unfair treatment of minorities a paper excercise that does not mean nothing under our roofs? Are we really christians or make believers? Do we believe in God or are we apostate? GOD HAVE MERCY ON US ALL ?.
ERROL SMYTHE.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Now that all the fuss of the Wright/Obama association is just a post script and old news the media can sit back and watch Barak win next week big time.
After he wins no doubt some self professed political experts can consult their notes and see that their polls were wrong again and Barak obama is very popular in America and that Bill O'Reilly's Fox news interview with Hillary Was timely for Barak.Yeah, Hillary did a big favour for Barak.
Barak's speech was watched by record number of people sitting on the fence that will now vote for Barak contrary to what the polls say.
So there you have it .Barak will win over Hillary by a massive 17% margin. Watch the press for details. Hasta la vista Baby! Errol Smythe.

Posted by: Errol Smythe | May 1, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Timeout! Time to reassess strategies.Time to tear down fences of suspicion,division and downgrading and time to build new bridges of understanding and reconciliation. Time for a new beginning to forget the past and to reach out a hand of reconciliation and enter a covenant ofpeace. The dust has to settle and it has to settle now so that the road that leads to victory may be clearly seen and walked on with confidence by those who want change.
Yesterday had it's problems. Today has it's own. Time is too short to spend worrying about who said what.There are more urgent issues to be addressed.Recent events will have a direct bearing on next week's votes.
By next week a clear winner will emerge for the Democratic party. The groundwork for change may have been discussed and deliberated, and may be on hold until next week when there may be a major announcement after a clear and definite winner is known . The American people will decide by democratic vote and the the Democratic Party can move forward together with confidence. Errol Smythe.

Posted by: Errol Smythe | May 1, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

first of all the american people are just plain stupid.hey folks, his name is barack husain obama. his mother,had nothing to so with God, his father was a muslim, his step-father was a muslim and took barack to the muslim temple. barack will not put his hand over his heart when the national anthem is playing. he has sat under a racist. that calls himself a reverend, and hes not even a christian or a revered.barack says that wrights opinions are not his opinions. yes they are unless your stupid you do not sit under a so-called minister that is a racist and probably a muslim himself. remember wright agrees with faraquan who is a muslim. if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, guess what its a duck.duh.

Posted by: janice seibert | April 30, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Reply:
Blacks, Native Americans?

Obama nor his parents are not Blacks, Native Americans.

Get over it your not on the plantation any more.

Posted by: vote for Hillary | April 30, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

re:

"OBAMA IS THE ANTI-CHRIST"

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The Clinton demographics favor the un-educated...

GLAD YOU ARE VOTING FOR HER TOO!

Posted by: GO CLINTON | April 30, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Yes Obama, it's long past time to focus on the future, changes needing to be made from where we are now. No distractions, just issues and the people. '08

There's people to bring home.

Posted by: Obama2008 | April 30, 2008 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Of course he speaks for you, Senator Obama.

$47,000 in two years' worth that you gave the church in just the past two years.

No one gives that kind of money lightly.

It's just that now others outside the church hear what you heard, too.

Thank you, Rev. Wright!

Posted by: Lesley | April 30, 2008 7:55 AM | Report abuse

So, after months and months of campaigning on a platform that he was no ordinary politician, Obama has come out swinging to protect his integity. Why, he sounds just like ...... {Wait for it] ...... a politician.

What a hypocrite!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 7:50 AM | Report abuse

Blaming Barrack for comments made by a former pastor is irrational. If we want to start placing the BLAME on anyone let it be the racist forefathers of this country and every American President for continuing a legacy of racism. Comments such as those made by Rev. Wright would have never been made had America "the land of the free" opted not to enslave and oppress certain groups of people. I don't understand why the American public is unable to relate to one mans bitterness. America committed the worst hate crimes known to man why should Black people forget or just act as slavery and Jim Crow never happened. The issues need to be addressed. Race is something that needs to be addressed. Black people were not able to receive any apology for 500 years of slaughter let alone the current forms of oppression. So why should Barrack or any other Black person for that matter be obligated to apologize or make amends for comments made by Wright. Look on the bright side at least comments were made bashing the American culture rather than chains, water hoses, dogs, and other items which were used on Blacks. Words don't hurt but years and years of rape and injustices do. But it is so easy for people who are not affected by issues such as race to not relate. I don't understand and I never will understand the hypocrisy of the American culture. You place the blame and hold grudges against people who may say something which is considered disgraceful or rude but you expect Blacks to forget how this same America culture enslaved, raped, and murdered countless amounts of African people. Its funny how the American public can't get past a weeks worth of controversial comments and they expect for Blacks, Native Americans, and other oppressed groups to forget events that occurred for more than 500 years.
And also how can Clinton, a woman who has never worked a day in her life and who was born into wealth identify with the working class let alone the poor. Do you honestly think that she would sacrifice her riches for the poor? If Hilary is so gun hold on alleviating poverty then she should let go of some of her millions.

Posted by: Truth | April 29, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

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This f***ing country doesn't deserve a president like Obama


...keep the faith....Obama is our next president...this is just "flap"....Barack has won the nomination...and will easily beat McSame

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

re:

"OBAMA IS THE ANTI-CHRIST"

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The Clinton demographics favor the un-educated...

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

This f***ing country doesn't deserve a president like Obama

Posted by: muggy | April 29, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

idiotic Working Class Voter. just shut the f*** up

Posted by: chiky | April 29, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

("I have no idea why everyone is obsessed with it, other than a realization that it's guilt-by-association")

Some of you fools just don't understand. Just look at it in a way you are more familiar with.

You are sitting in the get-away-car, and your brother goes in the convenience store and comes out with the cash register.
Now the pigs pull up arrest sorry ass. What do you tell the judge? Hay man I thought he was going in to buy some condoms.
Do you get the idea, or does the judge have to tell you three to five, before you know you are just as guilty.

Posted by: Go HILLARY!!!!!!! | April 29, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

"OBAMA IS THE ANTI-CHRIST & HIS GOOD FRIEND OPRAH JUST DENOUNCED JESUS ON YOU TUBE.
CHECK IT OUT FOR YOURSELF ON YOU TUBE"

Really, who cares? Most of America doesn't go to church anymore anyway or believe in organized religion. Look it up.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad Barack spoke out against Rev. Wright. And to the person that mentioned Bill Cosby - you are not responsible for what others say. Their words are just that, their words, their opinion, and not of Barack. Hey folks, it's called freedom of speech and that is what Rev. Wright did, he exercised his right to his opinion. Enough said about this whole thing,it is getting so out of hand, it is unreal!

Posted by: Mary M | April 29, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Rev Wright didn't say anything wrong. You white folks are just too narrow minded to understand. Our cultures are differnt and that includes the way we pray. Get over this bull you are trying to find to not like Obama. The american people i.e the white americans are not ready for frank and real talk about race relations and until then whites will not understand. It funny and they think they are better,NOT.

Posted by: tameka | April 29, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA IS THE ANTI-CHRIST & HIS GOOD FRIEND OPRAH JUST DENOUNCED JESUS ON YOU TUBE.
CHECK IT OUT FOR YOURSELF ON YOU TUBE

Posted by: TYPICAL WHITE | April 29, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

I pray for forgiveness
I pray for peace at the convention
I pray for the Health of Clinton and Obama
I pray for change

go OBAMA

Posted by: white man | April 29, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Tell you what I could give a flying F what Rev. Wright says. I could also give a flying F what the media has to say about Obama now.

I doesn't matter WHAT Barack Obama does........Hillary will make sure the media frames Obama as some kind of extremist. No one can overcome the cursory US media, which time and time again starves the public of facts and pumps them up with sensationalism.

This country has allot of growing up to do. Until America grows up, someone like Obama will never be President. The people of this country doesn't want the truth, we want to be right.

Posted by: ApostasyUSA | April 29, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand people sometimes you don't know the full extent of a person until they roll out all their inner being. For instance, look at that man that held his daughter captive in the basement for 24 years. People knew him and thought he was nice and everything. He went to parties, family get-togethers and had friends. If going by what everyone is stating on this website then since the man has been caught everyone that knew him should have known what he was doing since all of these children were popping up but his wife was never pregnant. Of course then everyone including his wife, who lived in the house should then go up for trial. Do you get what you guys are talking about because I don't like the non-listening or accusation factors being stated on here. Calling this man scum that never did any murder or rape is a bit harsh and judgmental. How many of you would like to be judge by the people you hang out with...for all you know they may have kid-porn in the closet.

There are people out there and they happen to be of various colours that have known mass murders. These people may have said something strange but no one took note of it. Are the people that knew them guilty then of the same crime? Why isn't it looked at the same way the Wright issue is being looked at...guilty by association? Is it a colour issue; which is something we really need to get away from to actually function in this country? I am sooooo tired of it. We do need to grow up and stop looking at something G_d given and one can not change. We are human and need to stop being so easily swayed by what people say and we need to look at are we being played like a fiddle. Start a little fire and the people will make it burn although we could easily put it out.

Posted by: It is a shame | April 29, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Robert Lewis for the info. I am going to research this. Like I said, one has to look at the timing of all of the things that happened. I am not saying that Obama was right for staying at Rev Wrights church for all of those years, because not all African Americans such as myself, who is also an educator in an inner-city neighborhood, agrees with everything Rev Wright said, nor does my church, which is an African American church spurs the statements and connotations that Rev Wright argues.

I feel that Obama was lost because of his racial background, and clung to Wright, because he somehow felt vindicated in relating to frustration he must have felt growing up. I am more removed to believe that Rev Wright, although I have a hard time swallowing this, is working against Obama...Why? Obama never denounced Wright at first...but in the same breathe, Rev Wright understood the political position Obama was in, and he should had been the Pastor/Leader that he was, and pick and chose the right time to battle the media and press, if he ever really cared about Obama?

If Wright does have financial problems, and this benefits him, as he mentioned he has a book coming out, then this would all seem in perspective for him, after all, there are pictures of Rev Wright and Bill Clinton back in 1992, when Wright and others came to the defense of Bill Clinton during the Lewinsky scandals.http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/20/p

Posted by: ThatBKChick | April 29, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Bill and Hillary sought counsel from Jeremiah Wright in 1998 during the Monica Lewinsky scandal. So does that mean that Rev. Wright speaks for the Clintons as well?

Also, why is it that so many posters on this page are so gripped with the fear that if Sen. Obama becomes president, terrorists will seize control of our country? If that is the line of thinking one wants to use, then we all should seriously call into question President Bush's close ties with the Bin Laden family. It's funny how Sen. Obama is being so sharply criticized over a couple of sound bites from sermons his pastor made and for having a middle name which is an extremely common name in the Muslim world but no one is bringing up George Bush's direct ties to the most wanted terrorist in the world and his family.

Things that make you go hmmm.....

Posted by: POT...MEET KETTLE | April 29, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

This would be the turn of the screw, or biblical terms, the kiss of Judas?

Although I am an African American,and I used to support Clinton, until I heard about their dealings with Daddy Bush and Caryle Group etc, I support Obama because he is the better candidate between the Clintons (AGAIN) or McCain (Little Bush) and I believe that Rev Wright should defend himself at some point , one cannot wonder about the timing? Rev Wright had several weeks before Clinton's victory in PA, and he could had waited in November to speak out about racial injustices that still exist in this country today. But you have to look at the context of how this travesty has rocked Obama, in the most personal way. I am sure he is hurt, but, beyond feelings...let's look at why I feel this is true.

"Shortly before he rose to deliver his rambling, angry, sarcastic remarks at the National Press Club Monday, Wright sat next to, and chatted with, Barbara Reynolds.

A former editorial board member at USA Today, she runs something called Reynolds News Services and teaches ministry at the Howard University School of Divinity. (She is an ordained minister).

It also turns out that Reynolds - introduced Monday as a member of the National Press Club "who organized" the event - is an enthusiastic Hillary Clinton supporter" SOURCE:(talkingpointsmemo.com).

It is most definately possible, that the Clintons are behind this because the context of how the National Press Conference was organized by avid Clinton supporter for Rev Wright, and unfortunately for Obama the Rev Wright was not the right person for Obama to forge or continue to forge a mentor/spiritual relationship with EVER! SMDH!

Posted by: ThatBKChick | April 29, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

The Federal Income Tax Lien for $48,000.00 filed against Rev. Wright


www.webofdeception.com

Posted by: Robert Lewis | April 29, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

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WHY DO THE NEOCONS SUPPORT CLINTON?

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

You should hear what my pastor says, and I am white and educated. Thanks that he is not running for office, but I still attend church there. I take what I believe, and am smart enough to ignore the rest.

Rev. Wright is not Obama or Clinton. Obama has already said, "he does not speak for me". What else do you want him to say.

If the super delegates are smart, this convention is going to make history. Obama or Clinton will not be the nominee.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse


Quote: "He's one mean SOB."

That is not what Clinton's pastor says.
That is not what the Brite Divinity School division of TCU, who just gave him an award says.

Rev. Wright was not on the primary ballot that I voted on.

Keep up the "good work", Senator McCain is the next president.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

4,000 US Soldiers dead in Iraq, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis dead in Iraq, Gas prices through the roof, Unemployment climbing ever high, economy in the pits, and countless other relevant issues and all they talk about on the news is a man that doesn't have anything to do with the elections...

I'm not voting for someone because of a few of their more unsavory friends. I am voting for someone because of what they can do for this country.

Let's hear the issues and stop this gossip bs!

Posted by: Daniel L | April 29, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Quote: "My comment was on the so-called Rev. Wright, one of 'his own', supposed friend and pastor, being vindictive and nasty and trying to run BO's campaign into the ground. He's one mean SOB."

Rev. Wright is not running for president.
As far as the religion posts here, forget it.
A large percentage of the US population does not attend "church" any longer.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Staged and prepared disclaimer, already cleared by Rev Wright, who probably deliberately gave him an over the top performance to denounce.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Countdown to Victory
296 Obama
433 Clinton
408 Elected 295 Supers

go OBAMA

Posted by: DELGATE MATH | April 29, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

ITS WAR

OBAMA VS REV WRONG

Posted by: SWIFT BOAT TOUR | April 29, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA DECLARES WAR ON REV WRONG

AND THE SINGING SWIFT BOATERS FOR McCAIN

Posted by: ITS WAR | April 29, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

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OBAMA GAVE A SPEECH

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Posted by: -- | April 29, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Esperanza369 Wrote:

RAT is a Repub/HRC troll/plant who has been all over the progressive blogs in the last 2 days, spreading his hate and smears. Such folks seem to crave the attention from those they THINK they can hurt. Ignore him and he'll go away.>

Why Esperanza, I'm Touched! :-)

But my Dear, I can most assuredly assure you,

I have been around for quite a while! ;~)

As far as "Pay", I can only wish!

See, I do what I do, only because I have been driven to it. I have suffered first hand too many things because of an idiotic Complacency exhibited by too many Sheeple.

I refuse to just go down quietly! I have bitten and attacked many People and Reps. on Many issues, and MY Pay, is finally coming in. I am WITNESSING the movement to get accountability out of the Jerks too many People have been giving "Free Passes" to! I might have helped my Demise by Dedicating so much of my efforts to this cause, but SOMEONE had to do it!

Go Read what Bushie just BLASTED the Congress With!

My Tail Waggeth Over! :-)

Payback Teddy, Lurch, Reid, Pelosi, Murtha, Byrd, Doggett, and so many other Traitorous Jerks, is a Dish best served Cold, to a Red-Hot Crowd! ;~)

Posted by: RAT-The | April 29, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

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CLINTON VOTED FOR THE WAR

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

time to throw THE REV WRONG SWIFT BOAT TOUR FOR HIS EGO OVERBOARD

and Why is HILLARY gutting ROAD FUNDS
with McCain?

GAS TAX CUTS for VOTES?

Posted by: SWIFT BOAT TOUR | April 29, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

the country belief system has been cowardess and lying for 200 hundred years that why you have poor whites in OH in PA that cant see the truth......Hillaries husband took their jobs not Obama pastor.....and the economy is flawed not because Obam doesn't wear a flag pinbut because the war only helps big business.....the America public need to grow up.....if Mr Wright is so bad for America why is he on TV all weekend....only people that want to vote for Obama can understand....that church is more than the preacher and also for you small time church folk.....in a mega church children usually have their own church and Mr Wright would not be their teacher.....so to ask how would he subject his children to this is not valid....because in sunday worship childrn are not in those services.....lastly....Wright wasn't going away...now he's out....not sound bites ....I think hes at least entertaining

Posted by: Segregation | April 29, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Sorry for such a Long Post...BUT THIS IS POWERFUL...Let's kill all of the rheotoric and show the world the power of Jesus Christ!

To all Obama supporters and those who love the Lord....The Lord, Jesus Christ who governs the entire world, including the U.S.A. I received the attached email and it's a prayer chain going across the world for Mr. Barak Obama....it's very powerful....I have copied it from my email, cut and pasted it here for you all to read.....I suggest that you do the same....because prayer can really change things and what I see happening right now is an outright attack by the pure devil himself!!! Ever since Mr. Obama stated to the world and acknowledged that he prays to the Lord "Jesus Christ" every day, he has been under the very attack of the devil himself/herself....He just didn't say to God, He said he prays to "Jesus Christ" and the bible says that "...every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord...." Send this email to all that you know so that the Lord can cover this young man with the blood of Jesus Christ so these types of swiftboat attacks can continue to roll off this young man's sleeve! Praise the Lord!

Reverend Wright had every right to defend himself against the horrible sound bites and outrageous attacks on his character. However, it's not what you do; it's how you do it. Up until yesterday I, like Barak Obama felt that the Rev Wright had the absolute right to speak out against the assassination of his character that the Clintonians and the Republicans have bestowed upon him. However as of yesterday, I question the Rev. Wright's motive. He could have done this in a less defiant, more sophisticated and intellectual manner in which he engaged his enemies in a conversation discussing all of the issues that were at hand, because in all fairness, Rev. Wright had some very valid serious points. Instead it seems that the choice made was one that is now being allowed to drag a great viable Presidential candidate down the gutter with him leaving open a very large wound that he knew very well would be hard to close. That's called vengeance! It seems to me that every since the day that Obama acknowledged and admitted that he prayed to the Lord Jesus Christ everyday, the pure devil has been chasing his tail, throwing every arrow, every stick and shooting every bullet to literally destroy him and eventually take him down along with the chances of ever being the President of the United States. That just goes to show how much power is in the name of "Jesus Christ" that those enemies of the Lord will rise up against anyone who loves the Lord and confesses "Jesus Christ" is Lord! But I am here to tell you that there's a prayer chain which has since yesterday been going around that many people in the nation is holding Barack up and asking the Lord, Jesus Christ to cover Barak Obama with the blood of Jesus, that no enemy and no devil in hell will tear him down. If it's the Lord's will for this man to be the President of the United States and to bring about Peace and change to this country, then the Lord's will SHALL be DONE! Just so it is written, Just so it shall be done! And for all those folks, the Clintons, The McCain's, and yes even the Honorable Rev. Wright....the bible says, "vengeance is mine thus sayeth the Lord"...So we really need to be careful when we go against God's plan. Please keep this prayer chain going, and while doing so let's also stand on God's word and ask that the Lord cover Mr. Barak Obama by his words in Psalms 91:
Psalm 91
He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High, will rest in the shadow of the Almighty. I will say of the Lord, "He is my refuge and my fortress, my God, in whom I trust". Surely he will save you from the folwer's snare and from the deadly pestilence. He will cover you with his feathers, and under his wings you will find refuge; his faithfulness will be your shield and rampart. You will not fear the terror of night, nor the arrow that flies by day, nor the pestilence that stalks in the darkness, nor the plague that destroys at midday. A thousand may fall at your side, ten thousand at your right hand, but it will not come near you. You will only observe with your eyes and see the punishment of the wicked. If you make the Most High your dwelling--even the LORD, who is my refuge-then no harm will befall you, no disaster will come near your tent. For he will command his ANGELS concerning you to guard you in all your ways; they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone. You will tread upon the lion and the cobra; you will trample the great lion and the serpent. "Because he loves me, "says the Lord, "I will rescue him; I will protect him, for he acknowledges my name. He will call upon me, I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble, I will deliver him and honor him. With long life will I satisfy him and show him my salvation! AMEN...Praise his Holy Name!

Posted by: Prayer if Powerful!!! | April 29, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

and also i've met obama on 4 seperate occasions and i can honestly say he never came off as a politician, just a really concerned guy who wanted to do something about the way the world works...and if you jump on him for that then there's no purpose for democratic politics just stick with the almighty bush regime for the next 100 years lol...its funny to me because only people with real problems understand why all of these issues are just a diversion away from the fact that the political system isnt improving ANY of our lives currently...

Posted by: hunnid | April 29, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

For proof, please see: http://www.uticaod.com/homepage/x1637676857

CLINTON Pastor found GUILTY of CHILD MOLESTATION!!

Posted by: IndependantQ | April 29, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

I've gone to trinity and i must have missed something because rev. wright never really said anything too controversial by a young black man's standards...but then again neither has tupac lol, and being a member at a church is about God and the congregation/community, not the pastor lots of influential positive black people in chicago go to trinity

Posted by: hunnid | April 29, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Her is a Black theologian's essay on Black Liberation Theology:
Black Liberation Is Marxist Liberation

Black Liberation Is Marxist Liberation
By Anthony B. Bradley

One of the pillars of Obama's home church, Trinity United Church of Christ, is "economic parity." On the website, Trinity claims that God is not pleased with "America's economic mal-distribution." Among all of controversial comments by Jeremiah Wright the idea of massive wealth redistribution is the most alarming. The code language "economic parity" and references to "mal-distribution" is nothing more than channeling the twisted economic views of Karl Marx. Black liberation theologians have explicitly stated a preference for Marxism as an ethical framework for the black church because Marxist thought is predicated on a system of oppressor class (whites) versus victim class (blacks).

Black Liberation theologians James Cone and Cornel West have worked diligently to embed Marxist thought into the black church since the 1970s. For Cone, Marxism best addressed remedies to the condition of Blacks as victims of White oppression. In For My People, Cone explains that "the Christian faith does not possess in its nature the means for analyzing the structure of capitalism. Marxism as a tool of social analysis can disclose the gap between appearance and reality, and thereby help Christians to see how things really are."

In God of the Oppressed, Cone said that Marx's chief contribution is "his disclosure of the ideological character of bourgeois thought, indicating the connections between the 'ruling material force of society' and the 'ruling intellectual' force." Marx's thought is useful and attractive to Cone because it allows Black theologians to critique racism in America on the basis of power and revolution.

For Cone, integrating Marx into Black theology helps theologians see just how much social perceptions determine theological questions and conclusions. Moreover, these questions and answers are "largely a reflection of the material condition of a given society."

In 1979, Cornel West offered a critical integration of Marxism and Black theology in his essay, "Black Theology and Marxist Thought" because of the shared human experience of oppressed peoples as victims. West sees a strong correlation between Black theology and Marxist thought because "both focus on the plight of the exploited, oppressed and degraded peoples of the world, their relative powerlessness and possible empowerment." This common focus prompts West to call for "a serious dialogue between Black theologians and Marxist thinkers"--a dialogue that centers on the possibility of "mutually arrived-at political action."

In his book Prophesy Deliverance, West believes that by working together, Marxists and Black theologians can spearhead much-needed social change for those who are victims of oppression. He appreciates Marxism for its "notions of class struggle, social contradictions, historical specificity, and dialectical developments in history" that explain the role of power and wealth in bourgeois capitalist societies. A common perspective among Marxist thinkers is that bourgeois capitalism creates and perpetuates ruling-class domination--which, for Black theologians in America, means the domination and victimization of Blacks by Whites. American has been over run by "White racism within mainstream establishment churches and religious agencies," writes West.

Perhaps it is the Marxism imbedded in Obama's attending Trinity Church that should raise red flags. "Economic parity" and "distribution" language implies things like government-coerced wealth redistribution, perpetual minimum wage increases, government subsidized health care for all, and the like. One of the priorities listed on Obama's campaign website reads, "Obama will protect tax cuts for poor and middle class families, but he will reverse most of the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest taxpayers."

Black Liberation Theology, originally intended to help the black community, may have actually hurt many blacks by promoting racial tension, victimology, and Marxism which ultimately leads to more oppression. As the failed "War on Poverty" has exposed, the best way to keep the blacks perpetually enslaved to government as "daddy" is to preach victimology, Marxism, and seduce blacks into thinking that upward mobility is someone else's responsibility in a free society.

Anthony B. Bradley is a research fellow at the Acton Institute, and assistant professor of theology at Covenant Theological Seminary in St. Louis. His PhD dissertation is titled, "Victimology in Black Liberation Theology."

Posted by: Kev25 | April 29, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

"The two democratic front runners have been run into the ground by people like the above poster."

Utter nonsense - I first voted for HC, it was the first time I felt hope when she took NH. She has taken this campaign into the gutter with the hysterical 'say anything, do anything tactics'. BO has not gone there, and of the two now, he would be my choice.

My comment was on the so-called Rev. Wright, one of 'his own', supposed friend and pastor, being vindictive and nasty and trying to run BO's campaign into the ground. He's one mean SOB.

Posted by: See the light, people | April 29, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama's campaign manager Axelrod conceived the Pastor Wright rehab tour. That comes from multiple reliable sources. I thought that strategy was a loser and I still think so. Obama and Axelrod see it differently. According to multiple sources Obama's camp want Pastor Wright to "energize" the Black churches and the militant Black factions in the inner cities. Hence, Obama through the Al Sharpton radio show and similar platforms have tried to transfer the argument that an attack on Wright's divisive and racist hateful rants is an attack on all Black churches. Why? Because that argument allows Obama to speck as a "politician" and claim that Wright speaks for himself, while Obama benefits from the racists claims that the U S Government created aids to kill Blacks. All decent Americans hve to stand up and repudiate the Obama candidacy as a racist based candidacy unless Obama totally repudiates Wright and the ideology, which has been frequently mischaracterized as "Black Liberation Theology" of Wright and Trinity UCC _ - "theology" based on the hateful teachings of James Cone, who like Wright is a former Black Muslim, who has gamed Black Christianity for personal fame and huge profits. Black Liberation Theology is a cancer visited on Blacks in America by slick impostors like Wright who is having a retirement residence in an exclusive White neighbourhood, not in the Trinity UCC neighbourhood.

"BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY" OF REV. WRIGHT AND THE TRINITY UCC IS THE IDEOLOGY THAT HAS BEEN EMBRACED BY BARACK OBAMA, WHO HAS REFUSED TO REPUDIATE WRIGHT OR THE IDEOLOGY OF WRIGHT. WRIGHT OPENLY PROCLAIMED THE THEOLOGY AND IDEOLOGY OF JAMES CONE IS THE THEOLOGY OF TRINITY UCC AT LEAST SIX TIMES IN INCESSANTLY REFERRING TO THE THEOLOGY OF JAMES CONE WHEN SPEAKING TO SEAN HANNITY IN THE OFTEN REPLAYED CABLE INTERVIEW WITH WRIGHT. WRIGHT, ONCE AGAIN, REFERRED TO JAMES CONE IN HIS RECENT BILL MOYERS INTERVIEW. THAT THEOLOGY IS AN AFRO-CENTRIC THEOLOGY. HERE ARE SOME OF JAMES CONE'S IDEOLOGICAL TEACHINGS, WHICH HAVE BEEN MISCHARACTERIZED AS THEOLOGY:

"If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy." (James Cone, quoted in William R Jones, 'Divine Racism," in African-American Religious Thought: An Anthology, ed. Cornel West, Eddie Glaube, 2003.)

James Cone, whom Rev Wright highly admires, goes on further: "Whiteness, as revealed in the history of America, is the expression of what is wrong with man. It is a symbol of man's depravity. God cannot be white even though white churches have portrayed him as white . . . When we can see a people who are controlled by an ideology of whiteness, then we know what reconciliation must mean. The coming of Christ means a denial of what we thought we were. It means destroying the white devil in us. Reconciliation to God means that white people are prepared to deny themselves (whiteness), take up the cross (blackness) and follow Christ (black ghetto)." (James Cone: Black Theology and Black Power, 1997.)
OBAMA'S CHURCH AND WRIGHT CREDIT JAMES CONE AS ITS INSPIRATION AND THE FOUNDER OF THEIR THEOLOGY. CONE WROTE:

"Whiteness, as revealed in the history of America, is the expression of what is wrong with man. It is a symbol of man's depravity. God cannot be white even though white churches have portrayed him as white. The coming of Christ means a denial of what we thought we were. It means destroying the white devil in us. James Cone, Black Theology and Black Power , p.150.

OBAMA CLEVERLY TURNED AN ISSUE ABOUT HIS RELIGIOUS ASSOCIATIONS AND THEOLOGY INTO A DEBATE ON RACE. MOREOVER, THE PRESS WAS APPARENTLY SO BEGUILED BY OBAMA'S MARCH 18 SPEECH THAT NO MEMBER OF THE PRESS WOULD DELVE INTO THE INCONSISTENCIES PRESENTED BY OBAMA THE UNITY CANDIDATE AND OBAMA THE CONGREGANT OF AN AFRO-CENTRIC CHURCH. THAT IDEOLOGY, DISINGENUOUSLY LABELED AS "BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY," IS UNDENIABLY DIVISIVE AND RACIST. WHY WOULD A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE EMBRACE SUCH A PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY? THE IDEOLOGY AND THEOLOGY OF TRINITY UCC IS AKIN TO THE QURAN'S MANY PASSAGES PROCLAIMING ISLAM AS THE ONLY TRUE RELIGION AND PROMOTING DIVISIVENESS WITH OTHER THEOLOGIES. SEE, E.G., QURAN, SURA 5: 51: "O you who believe, do not take certain Jews and Christians as allies; these are allies of one another. Those among you who ally themselves with these belong with them. GOD does not guide the transgressors. "

HERE IS THE ULTIMATE OBAMA QUESTION FOR THE AMERICAN BODY POLITIC: HOW CAN A PROFESSED "CHRISTIAN" WHO IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT ON A PROMISE OF UNITY PROCLAIMING, "THERE ARE NO RED STATES OR BLUE STATES, THERE IS ONLY THE UNITED STATES" BE ANYTHING BUT A SLICK IMPOSTOR IF HE HAS EMBRACED THE IDEOLOGY AND THEOLOGY OF JAMES CONE FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS? ACCORDING TO JAMES CONE AND REV. WRIGHT, "Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy." (James Cone, quoted in William R Jones, 'Divine Racism," in African-American Religious Thought: An Anthology, ed. Cornel West, Eddie Glaube, 2003.)


Posted by: Kev25 | April 29, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Rev. Wright is not running!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Quote: "Rev. Wright needs to go crawl back under the rock he came from. All he is proving now is that he is an extremely UN-Christian, petty, vindictive JERK. He doesn't like being distanced from Obama, even though what he preached about was the height of obnoxious racism,so he's taking his revenge in the media. What a first class lowlife."

See what we are talking about here. Your canditate may not be Clinton or Obama. If the super delegates are smart, they will nominate someone yet to be heard from It can happen and is all legal. The two democratic front runners have been run into the ground by people like the above poster.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Rev. Wright needs to go crawl back under the rock he came from. All he is proving now is that he is an extremely UN-Christian, petty, vindictive JERK. He doesn't like being distanced from Obama, even though what he preached about was the height of obnoxious racism,so he's taking his revenge in the media. What a first class lowlife.

Posted by: See the light, people | April 29, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

slafonlant. To answer your question,
an article listed today in the Huffington
Post entitled "Clinton Backer "Organized" Wrights Press Club Event"

Barbara Reynolds a former member of USA Today, who runs something called Reynolds News Service and teacher of ministry at Howard University School of Divinity. Reynolds was introduced Monday as a member of the National Press Club who orgnaized the event is an enthusiastic Clinton supporter.
Source Huffington Post

Posted by: deborah | April 29, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

From todays news:

"Clinton backers who have taken a dislike to Obama have a sharply lower regard for his honesty and ethics than they did last fall, the poll shows. Obama supporters whose view of Clinton has dimmed see her as far less compassionate and refreshing than they did then.

The feelings seem especially widespread among the candidates' strongest supporters:

_About half of Obama's white backers with college degrees have negative views of Clinton. Fewer black Obama supporters dislike Clinton but their numbers have grown faster, more than doubling during the period to 33 percent.

_Among Clinton's supporters, Obama is disliked by nearly half the whites who have not gone beyond high school, a near doubling since November. Four in 10 white women backing her have unfavorable views of Obama."

Keep up the "good work". Are you sure you're not working for the republicans??

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Democrats can't stand peace among themselves. Bickering is why most presidents have been Republican since 1897.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

From today's poll news:

Those Obama backers who don't like Clinton say they would vote for Republican candidate John McCain over her by a two-to-one margin, with many undecided.

The Clinton backers with unfavorable views of Obama say they would vote for McCain over him by nearly three-to-one, though many haven't made up their minds.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

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WHY ARE THE NEOCONS SUPPORTING CLINTON?

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

This whole mess has gotten way out of hand. This struggle has gone on too long and has done away with any chances that the democrats had. Half the democrats hate Obama with a passion. Half the democrats hate Clinton with a passion. Some will vote for McCain or stay at home as they have said. The democrats have aired the faults of their canditates ad nauseum and continue to do so.
The republicans will vote for McCain. McCain is a shoo in now, and all of you know it. Keep up the "good work".

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

WHY IS OBAMA A PINKO STOOL PIGEON?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

a,..a..a change that we all can believe in, a change that a..a..a meant to say chaos that we can a..a...all believe in..

Posted by: barry obama | April 29, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Quote: "why is that Black people HERE use the "ignorant"

I think, Blacks are been "ignorant" for following some BUFFOON like a sheep!"

How do you know who is black here unless they tell you? Another under educated Clinton follower as the exit polls show. And a racist one at that.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

HOWARD DEAN PROPOSES AMANDA JEFFERSON FOR PRESIDENT, AN AFRICAN AMERICAN SENATOR FROM DELEWARE, AND A VETERAN IN DEMOCRATIC CIRCLES FOR OVER TWO DECADES.

QUITELY, IN A DIMLY LIT BACK ROOM, DEAN IS SEEN HAVING HIS CAKE, AND NEARLY CHOKING ON IT TOO!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Quote: "Well, I am for HRC from now on!

I don't vote for Buffoon"

Whatever! I don't know if your vote will count for a person that is probably in jail.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

why is that Black people here use the "ignorant"

I think, Blacks are been "ignorant" for following some BUFFOON like a sheep!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse



Case Summary
Los Angeles Superior Court

Case Number: BC304174
PETER F PAUL VS WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON

Filing Date: 10/14/2003
Case Type: Fraud (no contract) (General Jurisdiction)
Status: Pending

Future Hearings

05/13/2008 at 08:37 am in department 47 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
OSC RE: CONTEMPT

08/08/2008 at 08:31 am in department 47 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Further Status Conference

Documents Filed | Proceeding Information

Parties

CLINTON HILLARY RODHAM - Defendant/Respondent

CLINTON WILLIAM JEFFERSON - Defendant/Respondent

D. COLETTE WILSON ATTORNEY AT LAW - Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

DOYEN MICHAEL R. - Attorney for Defendant/Respondent

HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON FOR U.S. SENATE - Defendant/Respondent

KREEP GARY G. - Former Attorney for Pltf/Petn

LEVIN JAMES - Defendant/Respondent

MACHTINGER LEONARD A. - Attorney for Defendant/Respondent

NORMAN JAN B. - Associated Counsel

NORRIS STERLING E. ESQ. - Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

PAUL PETER F. - Plaintiff/Petitioner

ROSEN DAVID - Defendant/Respondent

SMITH GARY - Defendant/Respondent

TONKEN AARON - Defendant/Respondent

WILLAMS & CONNOLLY - Attorney for Defendant/Respondent

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

cont...a..a country where all people can a...a...a live together with a change...a..a sorry meant chaos...that will provide opportunities that will a...a..a enhance their respective a...a...a..lives and help bring change, sorry meant to say chaos, and a...a...a

Posted by: barry obama | April 29, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Well, I am for HRC from now on!

I don't vote for Buffoon

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Quote: "I was Obama, supporter, but Voting for HRC. I want Democrat to win."

Then you will have to write her name in.
Senator Clinton will not be the nominee. The super delegates will take one look at the upcoming Clinton fraud trial, in which Hillary Clinton is a defendant, and flock to Obama. The Clintons have finally had it.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

WHY IS OBAMA A PINKO STOOL PIGEON?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

WHY IS OBAMA A PINKO STOOL PIGEON?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

WHY IS OBAMA A PINKO STOOL PIGEON?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

The pastor is selfish man!

What was that all about? to convince white people?

he is a BUFFOON!!!

He is uncle Tom


Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Clinton supporters don't seem to understand. The Clintons are toast:

Quote: "Hillary Clinton and "The Largest Election Law Fraud in History"

"Hillary Clinton's campaign appears to be in possible legal jeopardy with the introduction of a "smoking gun" video in a court case that has somehow escaped the attention of the mainstream media.

Investor's Business Daily explains that the "scandal involves allegations by movie producer Peter Paul that a 2000 senatorial fundraiser for Clinton in Hollywood violated campaign laws. Paul claims he spent $2 million to produce the fundraising event -- a de facto campaign expenditure. Under campaign law then in effect, campaign gifts were limited to $2,000."

John Armor, Election Law Expert at Equal Justice Foundation, says Hillary is involved in the "largest election law fraud in US history."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

we need to a....a..a find a way, that a, a..a brings the country together in a, ...a, way that's a...a..a beneficial to the a...a..working classes...a..a..

Posted by: barry obama | April 29, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

I was Obama, supporter, but Voting for HRC. I want Democrat to win.

Obama is DONE!

Thanks to his Pastor. Obama is Cooked

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

WHY IS OBAMA A PINKO STOOL PIGEON?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

RAT is a Repub/HRC troll/plant who has been all over the progressive blogs in the last 2 days, spreading his hate and smears. Such folks seem to crave the attention from those they THINK they can hurt. Ignore him and he'll go away.

Posted by: esperanza369 | April 29, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Reverend Dean Snyder, Hillary's Pastor, Praises Reverend Wright. Guess Hillary
will have to leave the church,you think?

Posted by: deborah | April 29, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Quote" "Senator Obama is famous taking the words, and speeches of other persons. No wonder why people gets angry..."

Better check your facts before you post. Senator Obama wrote a letter to the Fed Chairman with his thoughts a month before Senator Clinton used the same thoughts as her econmony program.

Besides, all this is moot, when the super delegates take one look at the upcoming fraud trial, the Clintons are toast.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

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WHY DO THE NEOCONS SUPPORT HILLARY?

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Jacksmith. If you think Bill Clinton did anything that didn't benefit him first that maybe your an idiot. Answer this if our "First Black President" cared somuch for us, why did he support and continues to support NAFTA. The 3:00a.m. did come. It came from the President of Rhwanda, asking President Clinton to send Amerian Troops to entervene in the civil war.
Clinton's response was that "Americans have no interest in the incident and did not considerate that important. 800,000 blacks were slaughtered. Bet this, if 800,000 jews were left to be slaughtered, Bill Clinton could not live among them.

Posted by: Deborah | April 29, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Rev. Wright had a speech about the Audacity of Hope in his Church. Conveniently, Senator Barack Obama wrote a book with the same title: The Audacity of Hope. Senator Obama is famous taking the words, and speeches of other persons. No wonder why people gets angry...

Posted by: Maria | April 29, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

The whole Rev. Wright controversy has just spun completely out of control. Why should a person have the same values and opinions as his/her priest? Not to mention that some of Wright's comments were taken out of context. Check out the video of Wright giving a press conference...here it is.

http://campaigncircus.com/video_player.php?v=9322

Posted by: kberly5768 | April 29, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

What is the story in this stuff about the shooting death of a gay choir director at Trinity Church in 2007? It is alleged that there was some homosexual activities and drugs at the center of all that if it is in fact true. What is up with that???? Does any one besides the reader who posted that know any about this??? It also stated that he was a close friend of the Obamas??????

Posted by: Ebonyflash | April 29, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Quote: "Hillary Clinton and "The Largest Election Law Fraud in History"

"Hillary Clinton's campaign appears to be in possible legal jeopardy with the introduction of a "smoking gun" video in a court case that has somehow escaped the attention of the mainstream media.

Investor's Business Daily explains that the "scandal involves allegations by movie producer Peter Paul that a 2000 senatorial fundraiser for Clinton in Hollywood violated campaign laws. Paul claims he spent $2 million to produce the fundraising event -- a de facto campaign expenditure. Under campaign law then in effect, campaign gifts were limited to $2,000."

John Armor, Election Law Expert at Equal Justice Foundation, says Hillary is involved in the "largest election law fraud in US history."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

WND Exclusive ELECTION 2008
Clintons to face fraud trial,
Judge setting date, testimony to include ex-president, senator.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

weblogs.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/blog/2008/04/obamas_rezkoauchi_recollection.html

nuff said

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Click on www.lasuperiorcourt.org

Under civil cases, click case summaries,

Enter Case Number BC304174

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Google for "clinton fraud trial"

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

All that you need to read:

Los Angeles Superior Court

Haring held 4/25/08.
Contempt hearing upcoming.

Case Summary

Case Number: BC304174
PETER F PAUL VS WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON

Filing Date: 10/14/2003
Case Type: Fraud (no contract) (General Jurisdiction)
Status: Pending

Future Hearings

05/13/2008 at 08:37 am in department 47 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
OSC RE: CONTEMPT

08/08/2008 at 08:31 am in department 47 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Further Status Conference

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

The Obama/Wright controversy could not be more interesting as a sociological, political, religous, psychological, and personally englightening experience. It is a page stolen out of Karl Rove's book. It is masterful. My congratulations to Mr. Obama and his handlers for conceiving such a politically savvy strategy.

Posted by: Frank | April 29, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Apparently, most of you don't get it and may never will....Unnnbelievably ignorant.

Posted by: mm | April 29, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR
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WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

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..........HILLARY VOTED FOR THE WAR

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

"Oh dear, I see this topic has brought out the Borat apologists in full force"

yo that is quite racialist, i ain't da queen and until dey put a crown on me hed, I aint gonna speak like da queen innit.

Just coz i iz from da UK don't mean I aint loud to speak me mind on da US politics, its called da fif amendment innit...

Posted by: Ali G | April 29, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

And Bill Clinton had no problem playing with cigars with a girl almost the same age as his daughter while his wife and daughter were in the SAME HOUSE!!!!...I think you all need to back off the guilt by association crap because both Hillary and McBush can be taken to take task with their poor judgement on who they are married to...

Posted by: Beka | April 29, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Oh dear, I see this topic has brought out the Borat apologists in full force, spewing the usual rabid responses. I am not familiar with Chicago, but I would venture a guess that there must be many AA churches in and around the city. The salient point is that Obambi chose to "worship" at this church, with this pastor. If Obama did not agree with the pastor, he could have left the church and attended one that was more in accord with his personal belief - that is what most rational people would do. So, the reason Rev Wright is relevant in relation to Obama's election campaign is because it goes to the heart of Obama's much vaunted judgment. We enjoy freedom of speech - if Rev Wright gets off on accusing the govt of inventing AIDS to kill AA's, that's up to him, but it's equally true that each and every one of us has a right not to listen - Obama should have left. He tells us he is the great uniter, a man who can affect change - I would be more inclined to believe this claim if there was a shred of evidence that he had attempted to change the rhetoric of his pastor and guide his church towards a theology that embraced unity rather than division.

Posted by: MelanieL | April 29, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Wagwan, coming at ya like cleopatra...

yo dis reverend be a spasmo and well mental. Him be da most hipocriticalist, racialist geezer that i has ever heard on the tele. Him also be dividing west and east staines massivs when dey shuld be workin together to bring back respek to all of Berkshire innit. If me was Bazza, I'd give da reverend a guff on his head like i haz done to me mate Ricky C when he was slagging off my nan.

respek - westside

Posted by: Ali G | April 29, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Just tell them what they want to hear!

Once you get back behind closed doors, you can laugh at them & keep telling yourself how you have them bamboozled into their vote

Keep saying the same things over & over without having any clue, idea or your own thought of HOW you are going to do what you keep telling them

buy eggs on the governments tab

Dont forget, you still havent used thw race card yet

These are bitter people you're talking to, just use some fancy language you learned at HARLEM; err, HARVARD and they wont know the difference

Posted by: Obamas Brain | April 29, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Yes, I'd rather be inspired by new politics of hope than to be sexually assaulted from a president Clinton! with Hillary covering it up!

No more Clinton cover-ups in the White House!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Dave, thanks for posting that. I see there are very few decent people on here. And he Clinton's Pastor seems to be very decent and open-minded. There are alot of racist remarks being made. As Rev. Wright stated, Obama is disassociating himself from certain comments he made so that he can be elected, but he didn't disassociate himself from Rev. Wright.

Posted by: Jay | April 29, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Yes, I'd rather be inspired by new politics of hope than to be sexually assaulted from a president Clinton! with Hillary covering it up!

No more Clinton cover-ups in the White House!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse


I never heard of Bill Clinton until he ran for office and became president although I guess he was the governor of Arkansas....but I did not follow what was going on in Arkansas.

President Clinton did cause some disgrace in the white house that he denied for sometime........but the past is past and can not be undone.

I never heard of Hillary before she became the wife of the President and all of the things that happened while she was his wife did bring her into the news a lot more....along with her health care she tried.

Obama is also a new name to me but I have no negative things to say about him. I do not know him.

Jeremiah Wright also has become a new name and I think he has a right to defend what people think of him but his timing does seem strange. Is he angry with Obama?

Who of use ever had a slave or a maid and who of us was a member of the KKK. This was many years ago and I studied it from history books and that is what it is HISTORY.

Now lets get back to issues. Did anyone know that president Bush put into law that in 2009 if Medicare has spent X number of dollars that then medicare will pay 45%. Is this not more important to us. This law needs stopped by the new officials of the government. Medicare pays 80% now but later would pay 45%. People are you ready to go broke and see them privitize Medicare. Get on the horn and do something about writing the people in office and address this situation.

In the meantime lets get back to what the campaign is about. In reading all of this rherotic and listening to Wright the government is going on with business that will effect our lives.

Posted by: EFHDC36 | April 29, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

It is truly sad that this much attention is given to Rev. Wright. This is an effort to negate Senator Obama. This country is still seeing color and they would prefer incompetent white females over competent males. This is Americas legacy..... If Obama is kicked to the curb by the Democrats...I will vote for McCain.

I will encourage all of my African American friends living in America to vote for McCain because if that is the way you play politics then be prepared to fix the voting machines.

Posted by: Laveta | April 29, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

What exactly did Rev. Wright say that was racist?

Listen to Rev. Wrights entire message and then come back and comment. Many of you are truly showing your bigotry and ignorance.

People refusing to vote for Obama based on what his Pastor says had no intention on voting for Obama anyway.

If someone who has actually served in the US military, lived through segrgation, and experienced discrimination doesnt have a right to question the government and the USA's actions and call them out on their nonsense..who does?

Posted by: DP | April 29, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Here is something what media forgot to tell us about this morning.
Enjoy!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=AeBpPjIlaEw

Posted by: Jarda1 | April 29, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

You just have to read some of the postings on this board (many that go off on tangents other than Rev Wright, many that are offensive and purely fantasy) and you have to ask yourself, is Rev. Wright the one who is off the wall or is it those hear who malign and hate others

Posted by: nclwtk | April 29, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Rev Wright is an egotistical idiot. It is obvious that someone probably the clintons or one of their supporters put him up to this. Also, attending a specific church has much more to do with the pastor, so Obama could have stayed in that church for a million years like many of us do and not agree with everything that our pastor says. Obama does not owe any explanation for rev wright, my focus is on the economy and getting the US back in shape. These distractions are just that distractions. The media is focusing on the idiot Wright and I have not heard anything about the soilders being killed in Iraq. I hope Obama does not even mention Wright because i am tired of seeing that opportunist.Obama is the candidate,he is the one who can briong us together. He is connected to both white and black, because he is biracial and that is important. If they steal this nomination from Barack, my family and friends are voting for McCain.

Posted by: jberry | April 29, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Yes, I'd rather be inspired by new politics of hope than to be sexually assaulted from a president Clinton! with Hillary covering it up!

No more Clinton cover-ups in the White House!

Posted by: S, | April 29, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Yes, I'd rather be inspired by new politics of hope than to be sexually assaulted from a president Clinton! with Hillary covering it up!

No more Clinton cover-ups in the White House!

Posted by: S, | April 29, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

I am an ardent supporter of Senator Obama and I get amused when people get agitated by the use of his middle name Hussein,and some use it to ridicule him.
I am a Christian and for the life of me cannot understand why it is viewed so negatively to be a Muslim in America. Is Islam not a religion like others??
Sure some Moslems were responsible for September 11 and other atrocities. But is it fair to paint millions of other innocent Muslims with the same brush?? Christians have committed crimes and atrocities too but are Christians painted with the same brush??
If Senator Obama wants to bring real change in America one of the things he should start with is tackling head on this irrational fear of Islam in America.
Democracy means accepting other views--and that includes religion.
I for one think he should proudly start using his middle name Hussein. Now that will be real change we can believe in.

Watching in Africa.....

Posted by: Osego | April 29, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

The Democrats lost Congress in the 1990s under a much touted Clinton administration

Hillary created a wedge among the Democrats in Congress in the 1990s

President Clinton SLEPT with 19-year-old interns, for heavens sake! in the 1990s

Clintons disgraced the White House with sex scandals in the 1990s!

The Clintons brought NAFTA and China in the US market in the 1990s

America became weak in the 1990s because Clinton would not deter Pakistan and India from obtaining nuclear weapons!

Clinton let bin Laden go free when he had actionable intelligence to take him out in the 1990s - he later blamed President Bush for that!

So, What kind of leadership can we expect from another Clinton? Rubbish!

HILLARY VOTED FOR THE WAR IN IRAQ!

AND WHAT ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON lying about being under sniper fire in Bosnia in the 1990s?

Hillary spreading HATE about MoveOn.org!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse


stella
you'd rather be inspired than be safe? you'd rather be inspired (and he uses other peoples words to do this - he is no MLK, JFK, Jefferson!) - than have education, health care, national security.
this country has NO TIME for on the job training of a two year freshman senator with a HUGE EGO. this inspiration immaturity is so pathetic.

flower children? wake up.

older americans have been there and done that. jimmy carter was the result. a do nothing with a good heart. doesn't fill the shoes.

obama is a no one and a do nothing. his resume is empty. he's an american idol rock star winner - but not qualified for this job.

turn your american idol show off - this is a presidential election.

the freaking free world. he is a two year freshman senator who won in against a weak republican in black chicago.

get a grip. grow up. vote responsibly - for an adult.

Posted by: Todd | April 29, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

The democrates can't even run their own primary, how are they going to "Change" the country. Obama is a slick no substance, haven't done anything polotician. Thank God the snipers didn't get Hilary!

Posted by: DONMAC | April 29, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse


BELOW IS A LIST OF A JUST FEW OF THOSE WHO VOTED FOR THE IRAQ WAR THE SAME AS HILLARY THE VOTE WAS 77-23 Yea.

Obama was in Chicago - he wasn't in the Senate - did not have a vote. Always the safe position.

VOTED THE SAME AS HILLARY:

John Edwards
John Kerry
Tom Daschle - HEAD OF SENATE
Christopher Dodd
Joe Lieberman
John McCain
Joe Biden
Diane Feinstein
Trent Lott
Richard Lugar
Harry Reid
Rockefeller
Schumer

Mr. Obama didn't know BETTER than them. He knew LESS than they did.

So stick that Iraq Obama joke. Mr. Safety Helmet

Never sticks his neck out. Never speaks out. Never created CHANGE anywhere. Twenty years in his church. No CHANGE.


Posted by: Todd | April 29, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

I write from Canada, and i thought hat Americans, were so intelligent especially te White Americans and lookd forward to the day canada will be like the US. Now i have my doubts.

There is no objectivity in your analysis, everyone is pushing an agenda to the detriment of the people. the influential make fear of the unknown such as a Black man becoming a president, or someone negotiating with Hamas to bring peace to the world, a negative, instead of looking at the greater good for US and the whole world.

fortunately, i am not American and cannot vote, however the truth is bitter, and i see from all the comments above that you guys are so bitter that you lack respect for one another.

even the media has an agenda, which is to be profitable and`promote the agenda of there backers,so most times it comes down to the individual to decide.

Between the two candidates hillary and Obama, i will go for Obama. He has inspired me, and his campaign has gone through ups and downs and no one ever thought he was going to get to this point.

I know that when he becomes the president, he will never forsake the grassroot people that got him there. It will be a new dawn in the American history and the whole world.

Being a Female president is nothing new nor historical in the western world. we have had Margret Thatcher and others. But were have you heard of a Black male being the president in the western world.

i look forward to real history being made.

Posted by: Stella, | April 29, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Is anyone surprised that Wrights appearance yesterday at the National Press Club was arranged by a Clinton supporter?

"Shortly before he rose to deliver his rambling, angry, sarcastic remarks at the National Press Club Monday, Wright sat next to, and chatted with, Barbara Reynolds."

"A former editorial board member at USA Today, she runs something called Reynolds News Services and teaches ministry at the Howard University School of Divinity. (She is an ordained minister)."

"It also turns out that Reynolds - introduced Monday as a member of the National Press Club "who organized" the event - is an enthusiastic Hillary Clinton supporter. ..."

Posted by: Julie | April 29, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

The Federal Income Tax Lien for $48,000.00 filed against Rev. Wright


www.webofdeception.com

Posted by: robert lewis | April 29, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse


Mr. Obama: "I can no more disown him than I can my white (why did he add that?) grandmother.


He was right. He cannot distance himself - because he called the guy family, and sat, swayed and clapped along to his ranting without ever once trying to "CHANGE" anything in that church.

Blacks everywhere are refuting that this church is like other black churches.

They are disowning Rev Wright.

But in TWENTY YEARS Obama never tried to distance himself from this "family" member - and he never spoke out or walked out or CHANGED his church.

Mr. Obama is a liar.

Plain, bold faced liar.

He'll say anything to anyone anywhere they want to hear.

One day the guy's his spritual mentor
Next day he's a crazy uncle
Then he is family and cannot be disowned
And today he is "just" my pastor

THE ONLY THING MR. OBAMA "CHANGES" IS HIS STORY

HE'S A HOODWINKER

AMERICAN'S ARE TIRED OF HIS MANY VERSIONS

HIS PLASTIC MASKS ARE MELTING OFF AROUND HIM

AND ALL THE SMALL TOWN TYPICAL BITTER WHITE PEOPLE ARE WATCHING CLOSELY

HE IS NOT PRESIDENTIAL

HE IS NOT EVEN DOING HIS FRESHMAN SENATOR JOB

AUDACITY IS A MILD TERM FOR MR. OBAMA'S EGO

Posted by: Todd | April 29, 2008 10:13 AM | Report abuse

the great majority of non-blacks (whites) are just looking for reasons to not have to vote for the man (Obama). u say that you are fair but deep down inside the majority of you can not vote for a black man to be president of the united states. there is the white point of view and then there is the black point of view. how many of you every invite your black friends over for dinner or to go on a vacation. Yes, i am black and i want the same things that you want but i have to work harder to get those things. i haven't asked anybody to help me and i wouldn't, i have worked for the things that i have. obama cannot stop rev. wright talking, why don't the white race look at some of the comments that pat robinson has made over the years...i am offended by several statements that he has made..period

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

The 'reverend' Wright/Wrong may not speak FOR Obama, but Obama has no problem with his speaking TO his two little girls and spewing all that racist, anti-American vitriol. And for Obama to have sat in that pew and supported this 'ministry' for two decades is either stupid, opportunistic, or equally racist and anti-American. We need look no further than Michelle Obama to know which. For shame.

Posted by: PJ | April 29, 2008 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Face it America, Obie is not ready to be President. I think that Rev. Wright knows this too. What Obie has done is used the efforts and works of others like Rev. Wright to push his own ambitions in life. Now that he's where he wants to be he is DISSING all his former contacts...EVEN his WIFE!! Where in the world is Michelle these days??? Maybe she's out shopping Oprah looking for new drapes for the White House. No! He had to tape her mouth shut but he is having one ##$@ of time silencing Uncle Jerry who is PISSED that he is out there pretending to love WHITE AMERICA!!!

Posted by: Ebonyflash | April 29, 2008 10:04 AM | Report abuse


Harriet

THOSE WHO VOTED FOR THE IRAQ WAR THE SAME AS HILLARY - they knew things Obama did not know over in Chicago - he wasn't in the Senate - did not have a vote. Always the safe position.

THESE FOLKS ALL VOTED THE SAME AS HILLARY

John Edwards
John Kerry
Tom Daschle - HEAD OF SENATE
Christopher Dodd
Joe Lieberman
John McCain
Joe Biden
Diane Feinstein
Trent Lott
Richard Lugar
Harry Reid
Rockefeller
Schumer

Mr. Obama didn't know BETTER than them. He knew LESS than they did.

So stick that Iraq Obama joke.


THIS IS WHAT IS CRIMINAL -


NOT ONE MEETING IN FIFTEEN MONTHS!!

132 BRAVE UNITED STATES WARRIORS HAVE DIED IN AFGHANISTAN WHILE MR. OBMA WAS "TOO BUSY" TO HOLD ONE MEETING OF THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE ON AFGHANISTAN. A COMMITTEE HE BRAGGED ABOUT. I GUESS THAT'S WHAT HE THINKS COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS ARE FOR -- SHOW.

WHILE HE WAS TOO BUSY WITH HIS CAMPAIGN TO DO HIS JOB - THESE BRAVE AMERICANS GAVE THEIR LIVES.


4/2/08 Sgt. Nicholas Robertson, Old Town, Maine 27
3/23/08 Tech. William H. Jefferson, Norfolk, Virginia 34
3/21/98 Staff Sgt. William R. Neil, Hamden, New Jersey 38
3/19/08 Pfc. Antione V. Robinson, Detroit, Michigan 20
3/14/08 Staff Sgt. collin J. Bowen, Millersville, Maryland 38
3/8/08 Sgt. Gabriel Guzman, Hornbrook, California 25
3/3/08 Sgt. Robert T. Rapp, Sonora, California 22
3/3/08 Spec. Seven R. Koch, Milltown, New Jersey 23
2/5/08 Staff Sgt. Donald T. Tabb, Norcross, Georgia 29
1/26/08 Sgt. 1st Class Matthew R. Kahler, Granite Falls, Minnesota 29
1/25/08 Staff Sgt. Robert J. Miller, Iowa City, Iowa 24
1/11/08 Lt. Col. Richard J. Berrettini, Wilcox, Pennsylvania 52
1/9/08 Sgt. David J. Krakulich, Reno, Nevada 22
1/7/08 Maj. Michael L. Green, Gautier, Mississippi 36
1/7/08 Sgt. James K. Healy, Hesperia, California 25
1/2/08 Sgt. Shawn F. Hill, Wllford, South Carolina 37
12/24/07 Senior Airman Nicholas D. Eischen, Sanger, California, 24
12/12/07 Cpl. Joshua C. Blaney, Mattews, North Carolina 25
12/12/07 Staff Sgt. Michael J. Gabel, Baton Rouge, Louisiana 30
12/11/07 Staff Sgt. Gregory L. Elam, Columbus, Georgia 39
12/9/07 Cpl. Tanner J. O'Leary, Eagle Butte, South Dakota 23
11/13/07 2nd Lt. Stuart F. Liles, Hot Springs, Arkansas 26
11/12/07 Spec. Adrian E. Hike, Callender, Iowa 26
11/12/07 Capt. David A Boris, Pottsville, Pennsylvania 30
11/10/07 Staff Sgt. Patrick F. Kutschbach, McKees Rocks, Pennsylvania 25
11/10/07 Sgt. Jeffery S. Mersman, Parker, Kansas 23
11/10/07 Pfc. Joseph M. Lancour, Swartz Creek, Michigan 21
11/10/07 Spec. Lester G. Roque, Torrance, California 23
11/9/07 Sgt. Phillip A. Bocks, Troy, Michigan 28
11/9/07 Spec. Sean K. Langevin, Walnut Creek, California 23
11/9/07 1st Lt. Matthew C. Ferrara, Torrance, California 24
11/2/07 Sgt. 1st Class Johnny C. Walls, Bremerton, Washington 41
10/30/07 Staff Sgt. James D. Bullard, Marion, South Carolina 28
10/29/07 Maj. Jeffrey R. Calero, Queens Village, New York 34
10/28/07 Master Sgt. Thomas L. Bruner, Owensboro, Kentucky 50
10/27/07 Staff Sgt. Joseph F. Curreri, Los Angeles, California 27
10/26/07 Sgt. Joshua C. Brennan, Ontario, Oregon 22
10/25/07 Spec. Hugo V. Mendoza, Glendale, Arizona 29
10/23/07 Sgt. Edward O. Philpot, Latta, South Carolina 38
10/23/07 Staff Sgt. Larry I. Rougle, West Jordan, Utah 25
10/6/07 Spec. Adam D. Quinn, Orange City, Florida 22
10/2/07 Petty Officer Third Class Mark R. Cannon, Lubbock, Texas 31
9/29/07 Sgt. Zachary D. Telliler, Charlotte, North Carolina 31
9/28/07 Spec. Ciara M. Durkin, Quincy, Massachusetts 39
9/26/07 Pfc. Mathew D. Taylor, Cameron Park, California 21
9/25/07 Petty Officer 2nd Class Charles Luke Milam, Littleton, Colorado 26
9/25/07 Pfc. Christopher F. Pfeifer, Spalding, Nebraska 21
9/23/07 Sgt. 1st Class Matthew D. Blaskowski, Levering, Michigan 27
9/9/07 Cpl. Travis M. Woods, Redding, California 21
9/6/07 Pfc. Mykel F. Miller, Phoenix, Arizona 19
9/4/07 Master Sgt. Patrick D. Magnani, Martinez, California 38
8/28/07 Sgt. Bryce D. Howard, Vancouver, Washington 24
8/28/07 Sgt. Cory L. Clark, Plant City, Florida 25
8/28/07 Sgt. 1st Class Rocky H. Herrera, Salt Lake City, Utah 43
8/27/07 Pfc. Thomas R. Wilson, Mauertown, Virginia 21
8/27/07 Sgt. Jan M. Argonish, Peckville, Pennsylvania 26
8/27/07 Master Sgt. Scott R. Ball, Mount Holly Springs, Pennsylvania 38
8/27/07 Maj. Henry S. Ofeciar, Agana Heights, Guam 37
8/26/07 Staff Sgt. Nicholas R. Carnes, Dayton, Kentucky 25
8/24/07 Sgt. 1st Class Daniel E. Miller, Rossford, Ohio 43
8/24/07 Sgt. 1st Class Scott M. Carney, Ankeny, Iowa 37
8/20/07 Spec. George V. Libby, Aberdeen, North Carolina 23
8/12/07 Pvt. Alan J. Austin, Houston, Texas 21
8/12/07 Sgt. 1st Class Jeffrey D. Kettle, Madill, Oklahoma 31
8/12/07 Staff Sgt. Jesse G. Clowers Jr., Herndon, Virginia 27
8/12/07 Sgt. Charles B. Kitowski III, Farmers Branch, Texas 31
8/11/07 Pfc. Jordan E. Goode, Kalamazoo, Michigan 21
8/2/07 Sgt. Taurean T. Harris, Liberty, Mississippi 22
7/31/07 1st Lt. Benjamin J. Hall, Fredericksburg, Virginia 24
7/27/07 Staff Sgt. William R. Fritsche, Martinville, Indiana 23
7/27/07 Maj. Thomas G. Bostick Jr., Llano, Texas 37
7/23/07 Pfc. Zachary R. Endsley, Spring, Texas 21
7/23/07 Pfc. Jessy S. Rogers, Cooper Center, Alaska 20
7/23/07 Spec. Adam J. Davis, Twin Falls, Idaho 19
7/23/07 Sgt. Travon T. Johnson, Palmdale, California 29
7/23/07 1st Sgt. Michael S. Curry Jr., Dania Beach, Florida 37
7/22/07 Pfc. Juan S. Restrepo, Pembroke Pines, Florida 20
7/9/07 Master Sgt. Randy J. Gillespie, Coaldale, Colorado 44
7/7/07 Sgt. 1st Class Sean K. Mitchell, Monterey, California 35
7/6/07 Sgt. Thomas P. McGee, Hawthorne, California 23
7/5/07 Spec. Christopher S. Honaker, Havelock, North Carolina 23
7/5/07 Pfc. Joseph A. Miracle, Ortonville, Michigan 22
6/23/07 Capt. Darrell C. Lewis, Washington DC, 31
6/21/07 Sgt. Dustin J. Perrott, Fredericksburg, Virginia 23
6/17/07 Sgt. 1st Class John M. Hennen, Vinton, Louisiana 26
6/17/07 Capt. Joshua E. Steele, North Henderson, Illinois 26
6/17/07 Sgt. 1st Class Christopher D. Henderson, Hillsboro, Oregon 35
6/16/07 Staff Sgt. Roy P. Lewsader Jr., Belleville, Illinois 36
6/15/07 Master Sgt. Arthur L. Lilley, Smithfield, Pennsylvania 35
6/6/07 Sgt. Charles E. Wyckoff Jr., Chula Vista, California 28
6/5/07 Pfc. Timothy R. Vimoto, Fort Campbell, Kentucky 19
6/2/07 Spec. Jacob M. Lowell, New Lenox, Illinois 22
6/1/07 Sgt. Charles R. Browning, Tucson, Arizona 31
6/1/07 Lt. Col. Michael A. Robinson, Sylacauga, Alabama 42
5/30/07 Chief Warrant Officer Joshua R. Rodgers, Carson City, Nevada 29
5/30/07 Sgt. Brandon E. Hadaway, Valley, Alabama 25
5/30/07 Sgt. Jesse A. Blamires, West Jordan, Utah 25
5/30/07 Staff Sgt. Charlie L. Bagwell, Lake Toxaway, North Carolina 28
5/30/07 Chief Warrant Officer Christopher M. Allgaier, Middelton, Missouri 33
5/15/07 Staff Sgt. Joshua R. Whitaker, Long Beach, California 23
5/14/07 Maj. Larry J. Bauguess Jr., Moravian Falls, North Carolina 36
5/8/07 Sgt. Timothy P. Padgett, Defuniak Springs, Florida 28
5/6/07 Col. James W. Harrison Jr., Missouri 47
5/6/07 Master Sgt. Wilberto Sabalu Jr., Chicago, Illinois 36
5/3/07 Pfc. Joseph G. Harris, Sugar Land, Texas 19
4/28/07 Cpl. Jeremy R. Greene, Springfield, Ohio 24
4/27/07 Staff Sgt. Michael D. Thomas, Seffner, Florida 34
4/27/07 Spec. Daniel F. Mehringer, Morgantown, West Virginia 20
4/20/07 Sgt. Alexander Van Aalten, Monterey, Tennessee 21
4/12/07 Sgt. David A. Stephens, Tullahoma, Tennessee 28
4/12/07 Staff Sgt. Casey D. Combs, Auburn, Washington 28
4/11/07 Sgt. Edelman L. Hernandez, Hyattsville, Maryland 23 (enlistment had ended)
4/8/07 Cpl. Conor G. Masterson, Woodbury, Minnesota 21
3/29/07 Spec. Christopher M. Wilson, Bangor, Maine 24
3/29/07 Spec. Agustin Gutierrez, San Jacinto, California 19
3/29/07 Sgt. Edmund W. McDonald, Casco, Maine 25
3/5/07 Sgt. Christopher J. Fernandez, Dededo, Guam 28
3/5/07 Sgt. Gregory D. Dejeran, Barrigada, Guam 28
2/27/07 Pfc. Daniel Zizumbo, Chicago, Illinois 27
2/21/07 Pfc. Jason D. Johns, Frankton, Indiana 19
2/19/07 Sgt. Buddy J. Hughie, Poteau, Oklahoma 25
2/18/07 Chief Warrant Officer Hershel D. McCants Jr., Clarksville, Tennessee 33
2/18/07 Tech. Sgt. Scott E. Duffman, Albuquerque, New Mexico 32
2/18/07 Chief Warrant Officer John A. Quinlan, New Jersey 36
2/18/07 Sgt. Adam A. Wilkinson, Fort Carson, Colorado 23
2/18/07 Spec. Travis R. Vaughn, Reinbeck, Iowa 26
2/18/07 Spec. Brandon D. Gordon, Naples, Florida 21
2/18/07 Pfc. Ryan C. Garbs, Edwardsville, Illinois 20
2/18/07 Pfc. Kristofer D. Thomas, Roseville, California 18
2/15/07 Cpl. Timothy D. Lewis, Lawrenceburg, Kentucky 20
2/12/07 Petty Officer 2nd Class Laquite Pate James, Orange Park, Florida 23
2/10/07 Sgt. Long N. Nguyen, Portland, Oregon 27


MR. OBAMA HAS VERY QUESTIONABLE PRIORITIES.

AND ADVISERS.


Posted by: Todd | April 29, 2008 10:03 AM | Report abuse

I can see why Clinton supporters are the non educated Ones.

Posted by: Iykeman | April 29, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

the great majority of non-blacks (whites) are just looking for reasons to not have to vote for the man (Obama). u say that you are fair but deep down inside the majority of you can not vote for a black man to be president of the united states. there is the white point of view and then there is the black point of view. how many of you every invite your black friends over for dinner or to go on a vacation. Yes, i am black and i want the same things that you want but i have to work harder to get those things. i haven't asked anybody to help me and i wouldn't, i have worked for the things that i have. obama cannot stop rev. wright talking, why don't the white race look at some of the comments that pat robinson has made over the years...i am offended by several statements that he has made..period

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:59 AM | Report abuse


SO, MR OBAMA

IF HE DIDN'T SPEAK FOR YOU

WHY DIDN'T YOU SPEAK FOR YOURSELF? WHY DIDN'T YOU SPEAK OUT OR WALK OUT OF THAT CHURCH IN TWENTY YEARS?

IF HE DIDN'T SPEAK FOR YOU WHY DIDN'T YOU TRY TO "CHANGE" THINGS THERE

OR WHY DIDN'T YOU "CHANGE" CHURCHES ?

YOU ARE SUCH A JOKE

SUCH A LIAR

SO TRANSPARENT

YOU KNOW MR. OBAMA - LIFE JUST ISN'T AS CONVENIENT AS YOU THINK IT IS

TWO YEAR FRESHMAN SENATORS FROM EASY WIN CONTESTS JUST SHOULDN'T RUN FOR PRESIDENT

AUDACITY IS A MILD TERM FOR YOUR EGO

Posted by: Todd | April 29, 2008 9:57 AM | Report abuse

The fact that Clinton won the Presidency twice was a HUGE progress for the democrats.

The Republicans are beginning to feel the pressure of the Hillary Clinton rise and started attacking her again.

Compare to Kerry and Gore at least the Clintons have already shown toughness as far as going head to head against the Republican Machine. Yes Bill Clinton didn't have perfect record but he did make HUGE progress on things that matter to the working class of this country by providing them the BEST and VERY PROGRESSIVE ECONOMY that blew away records.

When Bill Clinton left the White House, this country was on target for 3.5 Trillion Surplus but what look what happens 7.5 years later after an unproven leader is elected to the White House--we are now about 9.5 Trillion in the hole.

The next 4-8 is just to important to risk it again on somebody who is inexperienced and untested at best. Hope and Change are good slogans to have but the country needs proof that he knows how to do it and can deliver. Unfortunately for him, there was nothing significant that he had done before to support that.

At best, Obama should be offered a VP position but even that may be too much for him at this time. But for the sake of Party Unity, Hillary may do just that.

Whether the Obama supporters like it or not this nomination had already turned after the Pennsylvania race and there's nothing anybody can do even Jeremiah Wright (hah, hah) to change that.

Predictions:

Hillary wins Indiana by 3-5% and gets really close to low single digits loss in North Carolina. She may even outperform there.

Latest National Polls:

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:56 AM | Report abuse

The Democrats lost Congress in the 1990s under a much touted Clinton administration

Hillary created a wedge among the Democrats in Congress in the 1990s

President Clinton SLEPT with 19-year-old interns, for heavens sake! in the 1990s

Clintons disgraced the White House with sex scandals in the 1990s!

The Clintons brought NAFTA and China in the US market in the 1990s

America became weak in the 1990s because Clinton would not deter Pakistan and India from obtaining nuclear weapons!

Clinton let bin Laden go free when he had actionable intelligence to take him out in the 1990s - he later blamed President Bush for that!

So, What kind of leadership can we expect from another Clinton? Rubbish!

HILLARY VOTED FOR THE WAR IN IRAQ!

AND WHAT ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON lying about being under sniper fire in Bosnia in the 1990s?

Hillary spreading HATE about MoveOn.org!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Obama did not throw Wright "under the bus." Now, he is being savaged for being a decent human being. That's politics for you.

Clinton participating in this hypocritical attack-fest just shows her true colors. Absolutely nothing is sacred that may help her win.

Posted by: Harry, Los Angeles, CA | April 29, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

I am STILL voting for Sen. Obama. period. That Wright guy is out of the picture. Obama is our man for upright leadership. Wright is trying to sell books!

Posted by: L, WV | April 29, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Dawned on me as I awoke about an hour ago that we could be put upon! By whom, no big mystery, the 90's bimbo squad from B. Clinton's campaign. Smart, they induced Huckabee a Baptist Preacher from Hope, Arkansas; B. Clinton's home town also, to muck the Republican primary so they had another Bob Dole as a candidate for Republicans. Remember "Hope." for we will hear it repeated numerous times by people we like and people we do not like.
Then out came a mixed race lightly colored man that hardly anyone knew of that called for Hope and change. While he overwhelmed Democrat voters; until his militant "Pastor," pardon, "Former Pastor," made a real axx of himself by calling for a revolution by so-called descendants of ex-slaves against the United States of America in the foundation of Hope for very distant descendants of ex-slaves.
Why! We Hillary Haters found ourselves cheering for Hillary's last moment dash to save the day just like a hero from the Saturday B Movies of our childhood. Drat it, foiled again; by the Clinton's when the Super Delegates Cheer her into victory and Republican Grandpa McCain cannot gain enough votes from his senior citizens to make the election as interesting as the one her husband won from Bob Dole in 1994.

Posted by: BillyBob | April 29, 2008 9:50 AM | Report abuse

The Democrats lost Congress in the 1990s under a much touted Clinton administration

Hillary created a wedge among the Democrats in Congress in the 1990s

President Clinton SLEPT with 19-year-old interns, for heavens sake! in the 1990s

Clintons disgraced the White House with sex scandals in the 1990s!

The Clintons brought NAFTA and China in the US market in the 1990s

America became weak in the 1990s because Clinton would not deter Pakistan and India from obtaining nuclear weapons!

Clinton let bin Laden go free when he had actionable intelligence to take him out in the 1990s - he later blamed President Bush for that!

So, What kind of leadership can we expect from another Clinton? Rubbish!

HILLARY VOTED FOR THE WAR IN IRAQ!

AND WHAT ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON lying about being under sniper fire in Bosnia in the 1990s?

Hillary spreading HATE about MoveOn.org!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:50 AM | Report abuse

rev. wright needs to sit his butt down. i think he's really just trying to make a name for himself, at the expense of obama. i can't say if he's really hurting obama, because i'm still voting for obama. hopefully all of his supporters feel the same. wright, didn't you retire? go back in your hole.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:49 AM | Report abuse

The Democrats lost Congress in the 1990s under a much touted Clinton administration

Hillary created a wedge among the Democrats in Congress in the 1990s

President Clinton SLEPT with 19-year-old interns, for heavens sake! in the 1990s

Clintons disgraced the White House with sex scandals in the 1990s!

The Clintons brought NAFTA and China in the US market in the 1990s

America became weak in the 1990s because Clinton would not deter Pakistan and India from obtaining nuclear weapons!

Clinton let bin Laden go free when he had actionable intelligence to take him out in the 1990s - he later blamed President Bush for that!

So, What kind of leadership can we expect from another Clinton? Rubbish!

HILLARY VOTED FOR THE WAR IN IRAQ!

AND WHAT ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON lying about being under sniper fire in Bosnia in the 1990s?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

The questions about Obama's choice of a church are unlikely to go away. Wright's emotions and his attitudes as a pastor of a Black church on Chicago's South Side are really not that surprising or difficult to understand. But that church does seem to be a surprising choice for Barack Obama. Perhaps it has to do with his wife's roots. But it is surprising that a liberal University of Chicago professor with no deep roots in the African American community would gravitate towards a Black church. There does not seem to be much question of Obama sharing Reverend Wright's more extreme views. But there does seem to be a clash between Obama's choice of a church and the image he is projecting. He is likely to continue to be called on to explain that choice and his attitude towards the more extreme views expressed there.

Posted by: dnjake | April 29, 2008 9:41 AM | Report abuse

If Obama and Wright were anywhere near as close to each other as Hillary supporters like to claim, Wright would hardly be saying things that risk derailing Obama's campaign.

The very fact that Wright is openly, knowingly, damaging Obama is proof that they aren't friends and don't see eye to eye at all.

If Wright thought for one moment that Obama shared his views, then obviously he'd be doing everything in his power to get him elected .... ie shutting up.

If Obama does become president, the people who will be most disappointed by his first term will not be uberpatriotic Whites, but these Black theology types, who are going to find President Obama very white-bread indeed.

Posted by: OD | April 29, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Yes, he does speak for you.. He speaks of your insight into people (bush on putin: I looked into his heart and saw a good man),
he speaks of your willingness to raise your two children,from infancy, in that hate.
He's called you a politician and implied you believe what he says.

Obama screwed himself by loving that hate for 20 years.
He's not presidential material.

Posted by: Sonya | April 29, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

The Democrats lost Congress in the 1990s under a much touted Clinton administration

Hillary created a wedge among the Democrats in Congress in the 1990s

President Clinton SLEPT with 19-year-old interns, for heavens sake! in the 1990s

Clintons disgraced the White House with sex scandals in the 1990s!

The Clintons brought NAFTA and China in the US market in the 1990s

America became weak in the 1990s because Clinton would not deter Pakistan and India from obtaining nuclear weapons!

Clinton let bin Laden go free when he had actionable intelligence to take hm out in the 1990s - he later blamed President Bush for that!

So, What kind of leadership can we expect from another Clinton? Rubbish!

HILLARY VOTED FOR THE WAR IN IRAQ!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:36 AM | Report abuse

He might distance himself, but it is not enough since "pious morons" (as Homer Simpson says) are casting a vote.
What a backwards country we are!

Posted by: sljeme | April 29, 2008 9:35 AM | Report abuse

The Democrats lost Congress in the 1990s under a much touted Clinton administration

Hillary created a wedge among the Democrats in Congress in the 1990s

President Clinton SLEPT with 19-year-old interns, for heavens sake! in the 1990s

Clintons disgraced the White House with sex scandals in the 1990s!

The Clintons brought NAFTA and China in the US market in the 1990s

America became weak in the 1990s because Clinton would not deter Pakistan and India from obtaining nuclear weapons!

Clinton let bin Laden go free when he had actionable intelligence to take hm out in the 1990s - he later blamed President Bush for that!

So, What kinf of leadership can we expect from another Clinton? Rubbish!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:31 AM | Report abuse

The issue is not what Rev. Wright said but that Obama had the poor judgement not to distance himself from Wright prior to announcing a campaign for President based on Unifying people.

He had to know what Rev. Wright has been saying if he claims to have been a Christian who regularly attends worship services at Wrights church. He used Wright to climb up the political ladder in Il. and understood that Wright had sway in the community in which he was running.

So though I don't ascribe Wright's views to Obama I do fault Obama for not understanding what those views would mean to many Americans.

Barack Obama went to Chicago to persue a political career and determined that being a community organizer in the District he chose was his best entre into politics. He found Rev. Wright who knew the community and befriended him. Michelle Obama seems to share some of Rev. Wrights views judging by her comment that before Barack ran for President she wasn't proud to be an American. So she apparently heard Rev. Wright even if Barack didn't. Why she wouldn't have discussed this with him would be a mystery or she did discuss it with him and counseled that it wouldn't have an impact. Many must remember that it was Michelle Obama who also said that when Black people wake up they will be for Barack. Some forget who actually injected race into this campaign and it wasn't the Clintons.

I think that Barack Obama would have wished that his Rev. kept his mouth shut until next November but since he hasn't Obama will have to deal with it. When one reads Dana Milbank in the Post today, a columnist who has appeared to be a paid flak for Obama during the entire campaign, one realizes the impact Wright's repeating his words at the press club yesterday will have. Even Obama's number on fan at the Post, Eugene Robinson, says today, "I'm sorry, but I have had it with Wright".

Time will tell but the press club appearance by Wright could do what even the PA primary didn't fully do for Hillary Clinton and that is Turn the Tide.

Posted by: peter DC | April 29, 2008 9:29 AM | Report abuse

I am glad Rev Wright does not finally speak for Barack Obama. He did for 20 years and Obama gladly listened.
Can anyone imagine allowing your 2 daughters to hear this type of hatred at church?
Louis Farrakan and Rev Wright is a black racist, just like David Duke is a white racist. All racists are idiots, black and white.
I am glad Obama finally sees the light.

Posted by: Disgusted with Obama | April 29, 2008 9:25 AM | Report abuse

It appears that Sen. Obama is being set up for something much uglier than a likely electoral defeat. And it it appears some of his 'inner circle' is in on the chicanery.

Rev. Wright's 'Inflame the Controversy World Tour,' is being managed by a Chicago PR firm closely tied to Obama Chief Strategist David Axelrod.

Posted by: jer1957 | April 29, 2008 9:22 AM | Report abuse

That's true! Obama is his own man. Let him fight his own battles as the man representing us, he is not representing the views of Wright. Obama has said that he doesn't share Wright's views, just like President Kennedy said, the Pope didn't speak for him. Can't the American MEDIA get that in their heads? Even Wright himself said that - "their politics are different because the two men represent two different constituencies"

Can the MEDIA be sensible enough to realize that there are young men being shot everyday in the streets and gas prices are sky-rocketting, people outside are dying of hunger, New Orleans still looks like a developing country, and ALL the MEDIA can talk about is Rev. Wright??? a man not running for any public office. What a shame on the American media!

Most of the American MEDIA is epitomized by Morning JOE on MSNBC in the mornings, a show specializes in hammering on one particular point until it loses meaning! They bring in Pat Buchannan who is so full of negativity that you just feel like throwing TV away, Lord have mercy!

American media has lost credibility in the face of the world. Why is the MEDIA not covering the tornadoes that rippd through Virgia yesterday??? instead you give Wright more importance that those people who have lost their lives, property, and family? What a shame!

Posted by: concernedcitizen | April 29, 2008 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Y'all are a bunch of hypocrites. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Karma has come back to bite Obama and the media in the rear.

Your golden boy is not the messiah or the anointed/chosen one. He will not bring you personal salvation or get you into heaven.

ANYONE WHO IS NOT GEORGE BUSH IS AN AGENT OF CHANGE. Obama does not have the trademark on hope, change, or progress.

This country is at war and on the verge of an economic collapse. I want a candidate that has a sound economic plan to steer the nation out of the doldrums, a candidate that has an intelligent and feasible plan on the role that the US will play in Iraq (those of you who think we can just pack up and leave are delusional).

Sometimes I look at the media and the frenzy generated by the Obama campaign and start to wonder if maybe he is the antichrist.

Maybe it is better to cling to religion and guns instead of worshiping and idolizing a mere mortal.

p.s.
****sadly, I have to point out that I am a black person or my opinions will be construed as racist****

Posted by: Audacity of Hypocrisy | April 29, 2008 9:21 AM | Report abuse


It is wrong to Demonize any race of people. Every race has good and bad people. It is time for Wright to forgive as Jesus would do. His angry racist rant is not something a Christian should ever do. Jesus said to love your enemies and pray for those who despitefully use you.

Wright need to stick to preaching love and reconciliation, not hate, racial division and revenge.

Posted by: Jim | April 29, 2008 9:20 AM | Report abuse

What? Your mentor and spiritual advisor doesn't speak for you Mr. Obama?
Just exactly what role does a mentor and spiritual advisor play in your life then?

Posted by: Thozmaniac | April 28, 2008 9:43 PM

You are a fool. If my priest came out and said anything about any issue, he does not speak for me either. You people are trying to take some ones independent thoughts and implant them in someone elses mind. It is called free speech, free speech are not just the words you want to hear. People fought and died so that that tool of a man Rec. Wright can speak his mind. If you dont agree, dont listen. Grow up.

Please, Reverend or priest or Bishop, dont get fooled, all of these men were born on earth, they are no holier than anyone else, they just act like it. Unless you float down from Heaven, your thoughts are no more right or wrong than mine. To say that every person should believe what their priest says or believes is extremely ignorant.

Posted by: svreaderjr | April 29, 2008 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Which candidate is for America and which one supports outsourcing? Who is really lying to the American worker?

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Posted by: James | April 29, 2008 9:16 AM | Report abuse

This blog comments section is a cesspool. The only thing that redeems it is the knowledge that all of you disgusting vile cretins are going to writhe in agony for the next eight years of Obama's presidency. Enjoy!

Posted by: Matt | April 29, 2008 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Obama is saying in almost a wimpering sort of tone, "He doesn't speak for me". Well , if that is true he's need to start speaking up for himself, defining himself. Right now Rev Jerry is defining Obie. The best way for him to speak up now is to DEBATE HILLARY. He announced his candidacy and referenced that it was in the likeness of Abe Lincoln. Well Pres. Lincoln didn't run from a one-on-one debate with his opponent. Abe went the distance. HOLD UP!! He did not debate her 21 times...he like she participated in 21 debates over the course of the campaign so far.

Posted by: Ebonyflash | April 29, 2008 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Slevin, "On a day when his longtime pastor at Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ seemed to pop up every five minutes in the mainstream media and the blogosphere, . ." You have it wrong! Obama's pastor did not just "seem to pop up every five minutes in the MSM! NO, THE MSM PUSHED "SOUND BITES" OF HIS SERMONS CONTINUALLY 24/7 FOR 2+ WEEKS! The MSM pushed these sound bites. So my question to you is, "WHY AREN'T THE MSM PUSHING THE ASSOCIATIONS OF HAGEE/PARSLEY FRIGHTENING LUNATIC FRINGE - let the public see inside the Hagee so-called "religious" meetings and the fact that McCain sought his endorsement. THEN WHEN THE MSM IS FINISHED WITH HAGEE, push the FUNDAMENTAL OR FAMILY of HRC - another FRIGHTENING LUNATIC FRINGE SO-CALLED RELIGION. These people scare the bejesus out of me. Wright could never frighten me since he is supremely educated and speaks truth. So why don't you

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:02 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Slevin, "On a day when his longtime pastor at Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ seemed to pop up every five minutes in the mainstream media and the blogosphere, . ." You have it wrong! Obama's pastor did not just "seem to pop up every five minutes in the MSM! NO, THE MSM PUSHED "SOUND BITES" OF HIS SERMONS CONTINUALLY 24/7 FOR 2+ WEEKS! The MSM pushed these sound bites. So my question to you is, "WHY AREN'T THE MSM PUSHING THE ASSOCIATIONS OF HAGEE/PARSLEY FRIGHTENING LUNATIC FRINGE - let the public see inside the Hagee so-called "religious" meetings and the fact that McCain sought his endorsement. THEN WHEN THE MSM IS FINISHED WITH HAGEE, push the FUNDAMENTAL OR FAMILY of HRC - another FRIGHTENING LUNATIC FRINGE SO-CALLED RELIGION. These people scare the bejesus out of me. Wright could never frighten me since he is supremely educated and speaks truth. So why don't you

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:02 AM | Report abuse

If your tired of all the Obama Drama,
then Vote No more Barack Hussein Obama,
and that will end all this stupid drama.

Posted by: Sherry Kay | April 29, 2008 9:00 AM | Report abuse

White people suck. The last time I looked this is the United States and being bombastic and pissed off is the American way. Reverend Wright should be pissed off and it is misguided ignoramus' who use his words as fodder against Senator Obama, Black Americans and Black Churches. He is a pastor who was preaching to his flock,not to Senator Obama. Unfortunately rather than standing up and taking on the white hysterical's he is going to sell his man down the river. This whole process makes you want to scream WHO CARES bread is $3.59 a loaf, people can't afford their basic necessities and we are taking to task a War Veteran whose whole life has been about uplifting his people. Pathetic.

Posted by: mjwies 11, Washington, D.C. | April 29, 2008 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Is Rev. Wright the issue you want to vote on?

What about the issues?
i) Gas
ii) War - don't you care that your loved ones are getting killed in Iraq?
iii) Mortgage - dont you care that these are up?
iv) College tuition fees just went up by $90 - do you care about that?

Would you like to see these resolved?

Posted by: XXX | April 29, 2008 8:48 AM | Report abuse

It is obvious to me that the inner racist of many Ameicans is showing.

Posted by: Wil | April 29, 2008 8:47 AM | Report abuse

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William (Bill) Kristol; Editor of the Weekly Standard, key pusher for invading Iraq, talking about Hillary Clinton:


"I like to be on Hillary's side"


"She is a good candidate"


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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Hey DENISE,

Obama wasn't even in office to VOTE against the war.

Good to know you are informed about your candidate.

Posted by: trisha2 | April 29, 2008 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Again, thanks for continuing to beat a dead horse, media... You guys are doing a great job covering the issure.

Here is some food for thought:

1. Hillary Clinton still has Mark Penn on her campaign - a man that is working to get CAFTA enacted
2. Hillary Clinton lied about her experience with Bosnia and Northern Ireland. Her only experience was a bunged up health plan that made the Repubs win the House two years into Clinton's term as President.
3. Hillary Clinton mentioned that she would have no problem bombing Iran. Not a surprise considering she voted for the Iraq war after not reading the security reports.
4. Hillary Clinton voted with the credit card companies on the bankruptcy bill.
5. Hillary Clinton has been voting so that she would have nothing controversial on her record for her run to President during her term as Senator.
6. Hillary Clinton joined ranks with McSame (what a surprise!) and wants to band aid the gas crisis by taking money away from bridge and road construction with reprieve of the gas tax for the summer. THIS IS THE MONEY THAT MAINTAINS ROADS AND BRIDGES!! It would also cause the layoff of many construction workers.

Obama has inspired the YOUTH of this country for the first time in decades! Why would we want to turn away one of the most inspiring politicians in years over the words of a pastor? Believe me, I have heard MANY pastors spout hate and dribble from the pulpit, which is why I no longer feel the need to go to church. I did not get up and walk out when I heard it. Does that mean that I believe it? If so, then anyone who goes to any organized house of worship is guilty of racism, bigotry, etc, because we have all heard it!

Posted by: phorse | April 29, 2008 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Just wanted y'all to know that although I am probably further left than most of you - he!!, I was a Socialist until five or six years ago - I might support McCain if Hillary is the Democratic nominee. I don't agree with almost any of his policies, but he seems like a more authentic person than does Her Highness.

She has demonstrated time and again a willingness to "go there," no matter how unpleasant a destination "there" might be. She claims to be running because she loves America... but is willing to tear the Democratic Party in two rather than allow anyone else the nomination that she has believed from the beginning was her due. She is hard to listen to, she is a puppet of her equally egomaniacal husband, and she does not have any agenda beyond herself and her family.

I can't think of the last time I was this turned off by a candidate, and I include in that group Kerry, Dukakis, and.... wait, just thought of the last time. It was in 2000, and the candidate was a stuttering simpleton known only by his middle initial. Unfortunately, that cretin has done his best to return the United States and the world to the Dark Ages of superstition and greed. Even more unfortunately, he has been at least partially successful. He was, indeed, a little worse than she would be. But he ain't running, and she is. I would urge any and all to vote for anyone else... McCain if you must, or Nader if that feels better, or hell, write yourself in. I am considering casting a protest vote for the late great Dr. Hunter S. Thompson, onetime mayor of Aspen, Colorado.

Thanks, Hillary, for doing your best to ruin what looked to be a Democratic year. If elected - and I stress "if," with an implicit "he!! no" - I hope that you keep track of your approval ratings while in office - you're an ego-driven Clinton! how could you not? - and I hope you catch your husband in bed with Condoleeza Rice.

To make you jealous.

Of him.

Posted by: Hillary? He!! no. | April 29, 2008 8:34 AM | Report abuse

RAT; since you are a racist and bigot, you don't need to comment on anything again because we all know your views on Obama so anything he does or says is always going to be identical from your view. I want the MSM to expound on and thoroughly investigate HRCs religious affillations with "the Fellowship or Family" - only the 'so-called elite' (are they better than the rest of us due to their wealth?) of this country can be members and their basis is FRIGHTENING. I want the MSM to shine a bright light on McCain's religious affillations with Hagee and Parsley (the LUNATIC FRINGE) in both cases! Since I believe Pastor Wright is a super intellectual, witty, and charming, I cannot understand why the MSM is trying so hard to malign him. But fair is fair and if they want to play the 'guilt by association' game, then it needs to be played ACROSS THE BOARD and include HRC as well as McCain. I am sick to death of one-sided politics and I am sick to death of the MSM trying to make people believe there is something wrong with Wright. He is a gifted pastor and if some people are so stupid as to think that Obama and Wright are one and the same person, then something is radically wrong with those people. GROW UP PEOPLE. THINK! Are you guilty of murder if one of your 'friends' commits murder? Pastor Wright has done nothing but help others his entire life and I would be proud to know him! He is a man of God - more so than a lot of the priests I have known throughout my life!

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:31 AM | Report abuse

There is a loose cannon on the deck of the USS Obama. The longer he keeps is aboard, the more damage it will do.

Which will come first, the toss overboard or the big damage as Wright says something really outrageous?

Betting pool?

Posted by: Ed | April 29, 2008 8:17 AM | Report abuse

THE DAY HE DECIDED TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT:

Michelle!!!! I just had a great Idea!!!
What Barack?....I can take all that I have learned from uncle Jerry pull out the parts that sound racist and radical and replace it with a more unifying message and WALLUH!! Those gullible Americans, especially the bleeding-heart rich white left-wingers will eat it up!!! Then we will get us another house.....THE WHITE HOUSE!!.....THIS TIME WE WON"T NEED REZKO TO HELP US....WE WILL USE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!!! OH BARACK YOU ARE A GENIUS....now please put out that cigarette. What did I tell you about smoking in the house?

Posted by: Ebonyflash | April 29, 2008 7:58 AM | Report abuse

Wright can lead the nation into a depression and a 4th World War. Let us spend more time on him. I am disappointed that the media has not told us where he went to elementary school, what his father did for a living, and when he got his first technical in basketball.

Any wonder George Bush can send us into a war in Iraq!

Posted by: Lazy Media | April 29, 2008 7:52 AM | Report abuse

This year's Democratic Primary has shown the greatness of the melting pot America as well as the immensely difficult challenges it faces. This country is unfortunately becoming more divisive.

America is made of increasingly diverse groups of individuals. And, its composition continues to evolve today. America has changed from a society of mostly Euro-centra immigrants to a society composed of groups of more equal and neverthless less dominant power. The decendants of the earlier European immigrants increasingly find their dominance shrinking as the sizes of other groups increase. And, the balance of the political power of these groups is shifting too. The minority groups are demanding more equal say and have become more vocal about "equal justice" as their combined size move them closer to becoming the majority. And, as the size of the European immigrants continues to shrink, they fear their dominance fading.

All of this explains why each group is trying so hard to shout at the top of their voice trying to drown out the other. The black is calling for the "over-due justice" and equal rights. The white calls for a president who will be "inclusive" who will in turn continue to protect their dominance. The bottom line is this. Each group is demanding more say in this melting pot.

America society is changing and its people(s) are trying hard to adjust, to find and maintain each other's place in this increasingly diverse land. It is natural to hear the discord from time to time. But, we are all Americans. We all live in harmony if we have a heart big enough to permit all.

Posted by: harmony | April 29, 2008 7:39 AM | Report abuse

This B.O. clown is done...McCain will be our next President. Republican's clean the Democrat's clock yet again!

Posted by: Ed | April 29, 2008 7:38 AM | Report abuse

The Jeremiah Wright "controversy" is simply an overworked ploy by those who are attempting to malign Barack Obama and derail his campaign. It's simply ridiculous to hold Obama responsible for the words and actions of Wright. It's even more ludacris to focus so much attention of this manufactured controversy. The fortunate truth is that a movement for change is underway and cannot be stopped. Turn off the TV people and talk to your neighbors and coworkers about why Barack Obama is the best leader for this moment in time. In the end, there is nothing the Clinton Camp, McCain Machine or American Corporate Media can do to stop the will of the people from being fully exercised. It's a mind game, but we don't have to play. Let's spend our time organizing and mobilizing to ensure that our candidate is elected. Some of the ignorance and bias reflected on this board should serve as a catalyst to become more engaged in intelligent dialog about the most important issues we face as a country. Here's an idea: For every ignorant, bigoted comment you read on a board like this one, make a phone call to a voter in Indiana, or follow-up with a friend who is still undecided. Many of the statements expressed here reflect the very reason that we must get our candidate elected. If the Obama message and movement weren't so successful, none of this krazy conversation would be occurring. The haters are on their job, but it doesn't matter. If we stay the course, we will be victorious. Yes We Can!

Posted by: The Great Diversion | April 29, 2008 7:26 AM | Report abuse

Rev. Wright should not be allowed to dictate who will be the Democratic presidential nominee. It seems like some posters, of indeterminate party loyalty, think otherwise.

Posted by: FirstMouse | April 29, 2008 7:21 AM | Report abuse

This is all Hillary's fault. Let's play to the base components of the base and see how racist America really is and tell them it is okay to be racist and paranoid and fearful. The Republicans pulled these stunts for eight years, are probably also behind this one, too, and what has that done for this country? If the public gets sucked into this mentality that is being pumped by the media, we will get another President we deserve. A bad one that I will say I didn't vote for.

Posted by: Sara B. | April 29, 2008 7:18 AM | Report abuse

I'm old enough to remember intelligent people thinking President Kennedy would have to defer to the Pope every time he made a decision. Seriously! We have in this country last time I checked a separation of church and state. And as Obama says, "It is not only good for the state, it is good for the church." I don't care what god a candidate prays to. I just hope he's praying for me.

Posted by: Linda | April 29, 2008 7:17 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA NOT WRIGHT FOR U.S. http://www.dontvoteobama.net.
That's what Obama gets for his continued support and defense of the Rev Wright. Obama stated in his speech"Wright is like an uncle you love and respect" As imperfect as he may be, he has been family to me for so many years, I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community" Wright "Calls for Justice and Repair," followed a statement in which he declared that "The Biblical principle of true repentance is that the offended party is given compensation to make up for that which has been stolen from them, the losses that have been inflicted upon them and their families." A reparations plan for blacks could extract several trillion dollars from American taxpayers' pockets.


Obamas obviously support his feelings of anti-America and white hatred that the church endoreses to stay for 20 years also why would a parent continue to raise their young daughters in that atmosphere if the Obamas did not have the same beliefs! No one says Obama cant attend the church for 20 years, or raise his daughters in that atmosphere, what we ARE SAYING is that HE COULD NOT REPRESENT ALL AMERCIANS AS U.S. PRESIDENT! Rev Wright was a paid advisor on Obamas campaign! Obama and David Axelrod insisted that Obama be the black candidate early in SC when they tried to spin it on Bill Clinton, it worked for the biased tabloid media like CNN cronies, since then, we ALL have come to realize Obama has problems with the truth as have learned in the last month, THERES ABSOLUTLY NO CHANGE WITH OBAMA, HE HAS DRAGGED U.S. BACK TO THE 60'S RACIAL DIVIDE at a time when our country needed to unite. He is NOT new politics and cannot bring parties together. Obama need to drop out NOW!


"Wright is like an uncle you love and respect" As imperfect as he may be, he has been family to me for so many years, I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community, said Obama. The man who believes and preaches the U.S. government formulated the HIV AIDS virus to commit genocide against blacks also preaches "We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye on 9/11. This is the same man Obama had as advisor on his Presidential staff until this week. Rather than break ties with his demagogic, anti-American pastor, Obama used a speech on the non-back race to excuse his behavior and sweep the controversy under the rug. Passing the buck. Obama was the first and quickest to demand Imus' ouster for making a racially insensitive remarks. His opinions and issues change with the weather, he is too UNSTABLE and proven he cannot make a decision or stay with one. Next we have ALL corrupt campaign financers, business and personal friends as indicted Rezko, former Dallas Mayor Hill, Rep. Rick Renzi and Mr. Auchi, leading supplier of arms to Saddam's regime convicted for corruption in France, the same British-Iraqi billionaire lent millions and millions of dollars to Obama all coming out of the woodwork. Proof he is just an inexperienced Washington politician that the media has like CNN has given a free pass at the great risk of our great country! As predicted more video of Rev Wright and Obama are coming, all this has proven without doubt if he is the nominee he would not win the general election, just the black vote will not do it. Its time for Obama to leave this race and take his not so proud of America racist wife, spiritual advisor and anti white church with him..

Posted by: OBAMA NOT WRIGHT FOR U.S. | April 29, 2008 7:07 AM | Report abuse

LET'S GET BACK TO THE ISSUES FOLKS.

Posted by: | April 29, 2008 6:54 AM

Sorry, but as that serves neither the interests of the corporate media nor the rich white people who run the country, IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

Posted by: flarrfan | April 29, 2008 7:06 AM | Report abuse

What is facinating about this primary is that the Washington Post is pulling out all stops to prove to the American Public how completely they "control" politics and American thinking.

Have you noticed that they have, in the face of a global food crisis, astronomic oil prices, a dollar that is worth 20 cents less than the euro, unresolved disaster recovery (Katrina), a dangerously shrinking middle class, etc. all they have pushed before the people is Rev. Jeremiah Wright, a preacher who is not running for for town commissioner, much less, President of the United States?

Barrack Obama does not accept donations from special interests. That would include organs like the Washington Post. (Those who own it) and any other major corporate interest in the United States. That says something to me. I only wish that the other candidates, Republican and Democratic, would take that same stand.

Not taking these donations makes Obama a threat because should he win the nomination, and thereafter the White House, he would be beholden to none of them. He would be beholden to those who fueled his campaign; the American people. Knowing that, these interests are coming after him with every tangent, divergent non issue that they can. Imagine if Hillary Clinton and John McCain refused to take any special interest dollar. Then all of the candidates would be beholden to none but the American people.

Obama is not perfect. But he is perfect for me. I want a completely new paradigm in Washington and Clinton and McCain are not the dinasaurs (not in age, but in ideology) who can bring it.

Obama says that the man does not speak for him. That's enough for me.

Jeremiah Wright is using this unusual publicity to enrich himself. He has a book coming out soon. I can't blame him, if the American media sets out to demonize you, then you should take it for all its worth. However, you cannot place his exploitation of the media for enrichment on Obama. I just see it as a smart business move. Most of you will, in secret, BUY the book.

We have riots going on across the globe because of food shortages. Wheat prices doubling in 36 mos. When you have global economic distress, you have an environment where terrorists and fringe groups gain leverage.

LET'S GET BACK TO THE ISSUES FOLKS.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:54 AM | Report abuse

In my opinion, this is about two things:

First and foremost, this is about the corporate media and the rich white people who together run this country. The media delights in the ratings and their chance to define reality on their terms, especially when they are attacked ("ink by the barrel" you know), and rich white people can feel more secure in their control of the sheeple.

Second, this seems to be a personal thing between Obama and Wright. If I were Obama, I would make a speech thanking Wright for bringing me to Jesus ('course, as a white middle aged agnostic, I could never be Obama), noting his spiritual contributions to my life, then saying that his politics has nothing to do with my positions on the issues, and that his "grandstanding" (since that's what the corporate media has decided to call it) has convinced me, not that there is anything wrong with the black church tradition, but that this particular church no longer suits my spiritual needs. Of course, the speech needs to be more subtle and less political, but I do believe that this is what Obama is now thinking, and I believe he should express it publicly.

Posted by: flarrfan | April 29, 2008 6:32 AM | Report abuse

Hillary is getting Elizabeth Edwards endorsement because she thinks Obama's health plan is poor and Hillary's is best.

Hillary 2008

Posted by: tiredofit | April 29, 2008 6:21 AM | Report abuse

cover for racists

This issue is the lifeline for racists
Yall would have never voted for obama, even if jesus told you too in a dream

Mccain will see to it that oil hits 300$ a barrel.
Clinton only 270$ a barrel
Obama will recapture some of the oil money as taxes, and thus we will have health care.


Learn to walk

You prince william folks get walking shoes, cause you will walk farther

Posted by: pvogel88 | April 29, 2008 6:09 AM | Report abuse

Nonsense.

Of course Wright speaks for Obama.
And so does Clyburn.
They are his surrogates.

This is a good cop-bad cop routine.

The best evidence of racial progress in this country is that Obama is running for president and has received so many votes.

With this incessant racial battering, it is now time for Obama to take a deep breath - and come back in five years. Maybe he can do his part to improve racial relations while not running for office.

Posted by: Lesley | April 29, 2008 6:07 AM | Report abuse

I dont buy it. The only reasonable, possible explanation to the Wright/Obamba debacle is that Obama agreed with his mentor for 20 YEARS. That is why Wright feels free to give his Anti American Speeches while Obama shies away from denouncing him. Obama cannot denounce nor refused Wright because the truth will come out. Wright is Obama's true political liability. Expect the following, Wright will :
1- WRITE A BOOK.
2- CONTINUE TO GIVE NATIONAL SPEECHES.
3- HE WILL CHARGE FOR THOSE NATIONAL SPEECHES.
4- HE WILL APPEAR IN MORE COMMENTARY PROGRAMS.
5- DONT BE SURPRICE IF WRIGHT HIMSELF RUNS FOR SENATOR.
6- THERE WILL BE A WRIGHT IDIALOGY BASED ON HIS POLITICAL ANGLE.
7- OBAMA WILL NOT DISASSOCIATE, NOR RENOUNCED REV. WRIGHT.

SO ASK YOURSELF WHY? Why CANT THE NEXT POSSIBLE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES DENOUNCE AND RENOUNCE HIS CRAZY, ANTI-AMERICAN PASTOR? EASY; WRIGHT KNOWS TOO MUCH.

Posted by: Leanza Cornett | April 29, 2008 6:03 AM | Report abuse

I'm a Catholic. Does that mean I should take personal reponsibility for every pedophile priest I've ever come into contact with? I have not agreed with every fire and brimstone sermon I've listened to, yet should I have walked out, or left the congregation? No.

Wright has a certain style. Not everyone agrees with the style. Obama has stated that Wright doesn't speak for him. That should be the end of it. This is such a ridiculous issue I have no idea why everyone is obsessed with it, other than a realization that guilt-by-association is the only way to bring that uppity Obama down to size. You'd expect it from Republicans, but not from Democrats.

Shame on Bill and Hillary for keeping this thing going.

Posted by: Mark O | April 29, 2008 5:53 AM | Report abuse

Look Obama cannot easily disconnect himself from Rev. Wright. Obama has called Rev. Wright his uncle, his mentor, his pastor, and his spiritual advisor, for TWENTY YEARS. . . . . And this is a case far worse than just misunderstood words -- "AIDS was invented to use against blacks."

For Obama, who was quick to wrongfully accuse Clinton of playing race cards at every turn in the election, this is indeed a shocking revelation.

And just last week, it was revealed that Obama's campaign even before S. Carolina had calculated to play the race card at the first and every other oppertunity. . . . . Ohhh, brother Obama how far you have sunk -- your just another politian as usual (and maybe worse).

Posted by: Coldcomfort | April 29, 2008 5:52 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA VOTED FOR THE WAR...
once he was in the Senate

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:47 AM | Report abuse

Well then he can't win, can he? Wasn't in the Senate so can't get credit for a vote. But gives a fine speech that clearly lays down his views and doesn't get credit for that either.

Someone he knows does some stupid things when Obama was eight years old but he must accept the blame. His former pastor says some stupid things and Obama must accept the blame.

Come on, that's ridiculous.

Posted by: tiredofit | April 29, 2008 5:40 AM | Report abuse

Does anybody ever ask who benefits from this?

Don't you think that just maybe somebody gave the Reverend a lot of money for these mean remarks that he knows will be harmful to Obama?
Would not put this past Slick " BHillary"

Posted by: slafontant@gmail.com | April 28, 2008 9:02 PM
-----------------------------------.

If I am not mistaken it is Obama that has millions of his donors dollars to throw around, not Hillary. Then there is the very real fact that Rev Wright does not need to be paid off because after he tells the world what he honestly believes and they draw their own conclusions as to what Obama knew, when he knew it and what he honestly believes he will make millions from his book. Hillary could not pay off Wright because he stands to make much more than she could afford. I suspect when Obama uninvited the good Rev to his announcement of running for president, he realized that Obama was not going to give him any public adoration after 20 years of him "educating" the Obama's.

Posted by: tiredofit | April 29, 2008 5:40 AM | Report abuse

tiredofit:

Come off it, negative campaigning by the Obama campaign has been extremely limited. Hillary's been doing it via her surrogates since the very beginning (or at least when they realized the campaign had begun - they seemed to be asleep at the wheel at the beginning). Some of Obama's staff put out a press release early on with an unflattering description of Hillary as senator for the Punjab (remember that?). Mild by Washington standards.

But Obama came down on them like a ton of bricks. He told them that that was not the sort of campaign he wanted to wage. He *has* kept it positive. But there is a limit to what you can absorb from the other side. I mean, this whole Wright business is a prime example.

And everything Hilllary says, every word, is highly calculated to put the knife into Obama. Listen to her next time and you'll see how practiced it is. Nothing spontaneous from Hillary. Steals Obama's best lines too. Will say anything to get elected.

Posted by: Mark O | April 29, 2008 5:34 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: Denise Oliver-Velez | April 28, 2008 9:40 PM----You said Obama voted against the war.------Where have you been that you have not yet learned that in fact Obama did NOT vote against the war, he merely spoke out against it. He did not go on record (create a paper trail) and place a vote because he was not in the US Senate at the time. Therefore, he has been allowed to profit from a speech that had no consequences. If the war would have gone good he could have stepped away from his speech, if it had gone bad, which it has, he gets to take credit. Obama did NOT vote against the war he put forth an opinion with no paper trail that he could later spin if need be. Some people are giving him far too much credit for taking the safe political path.

Posted by: tiredofit | April 29, 2008 5:32 AM | Report abuse

Yawn, can we play this to death further? I guess since Wright is so indicative of Obama's ideas that Scalia, as a Catholic, must be anti-death penalty as the Pope commands? Oh wait, many Americans separate religious worship from policy and service. Get real and get to real issues.

Posted by: WTF | April 29, 2008 5:27 AM | Report abuse

An associate of Obama pal and corrupt political fixer Tony Rezko took the witness stand in Rezko's federal corruption trial today in Chicago.

Elie Maloof testified that Rezko told him to ignore a grand jury subpoena he received in the federal investigation. He said Rezko told him that U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald would be canned by the Bush administration, and that the entire investigation would be shut down after then-House Speaker Dennis Hastert put his guy into Fitzgerald's spot.

According to the Sun-Times, Maloof became tied to Sen. Barack Obama when he acted as a straw donor to Obama's Senate campaign at the behest of Rezko, although government documents simply referred to the donation Maloof made to Obama as "a political candidate."

Posted by: elme | April 29, 2008 5:14 AM | Report abuse

Sigh...

Well let's have a look at some of his achievements shall we? Let's start with the senate:

Ethics Reform: Obama was the Senate's point person on ethics reform, and sponsored or co-sponsored the bills that made up what the Washington Post called "the strongest ethics legislation to emerge from Congress yet."

* The Lugar-Obama initiative to strengthen the Nunn-Luger framework for securing loose nukes, and to extend it to securing and destroying stockpiles of conventional arms.

* Various bills concerning the response to Hurricane Katrina, including an amendment putting strict limits on the use of no-bid contracts after disasters, requiring planning for the evacuation of people with special needs and senior citizens, creating a National Emergency Family Locator System, etc

There's more here:
http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2008/02/obama-actually.html

Posted by: Mark O | April 29, 2008 5:13 AM | Report abuse

Obama said people throw elbows at you and you start throwing elbows back as an excuse for him participating in "Washington" politics. Geez, it took him what, a couple of months of a little negative press from his MSM cheerleaders and he resorted to "Washington" politics, otherwise known as the politics of old. How long will it be before the "heat" of the Oval Office "elbows" him into playing that same old time Washington politics with black panthers for security? Obama is not a new type of politician, he has proven he will say and do whatever is necessary to get the nom. He had to tear down Bill's legacy, because he could not run against peace and prosperity. He has been going negative since the beginning.

Posted by: tiredofit | April 29, 2008 5:13 AM | Report abuse

If Obama is going to unite all people why does he go to a branch of a white church that is mostly, if not all black? Count the white faces at Wright's sermons and see for yourself if Obama was misleading American's when he said his church was mostly white..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDaO7N-JujU&NR=1.

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4443230.

Posted by: tiredofit | April 29, 2008 5:04 AM | Report abuse

I think Rev Wright does speak for Obama, because he speaks to Obama's values. Obama was married by Rev Wright and his children were baptized by him. In Obama's book Dreams of My Father, published 13 years ago he talks about some of the things Rev Wright has said. Obama knew full well what Wright believed and chose to stay in his church allow Wright to help build his children's life foundation. Wright honors and respects racist Louis Farrakhan and Obama has a hard time rejecting him. Birds of a feather floct together and the Obama's have been flying with the wrong birds for America.

Posted by: tiredofit | April 29, 2008 5:00 AM | Report abuse

To: Mark O

You wrote:
It's clear that a Senate voting record isn't necessarily an indicator of how a president might perform in office. Indeed, most recent presidents haven't even had Senate voting records.
_________________________________________

Here's an indication of how Obama might perform in office (...hint...virtually nonexistent legislative experience):

Obama claims 7 years experience in Illinois bringing people together to get good CHANGES passed -as exemplified by 26 good bills with his name on them.

A Chicago reporter says all 26 bills were passed in ONE Year.

http://wweek.com/editorial/3418/10516/

EXCERPTS:
But what's interesting, and almost never discussed, is that he built his entire legislative record in Illinois in a single year.

Republicans controlled the Illinois General Assembly for six years of Obama's seven-year tenure.

Then Emil Jones Jr. (became the Senate Majority leader), He became Obama's kingmaker.

Jones appointed Obama sponsor of virtually every high-profile piece of legislation, angering many rank-and-file state legislators who had more seniority than Obama and had spent years championing the bills.

During his seventh year in the state Senate, Obama ... sponsored a whopping 26 bills including many he now cites in his presidential campaign when attacked as inexperienced.

Working across the aisles/Making
CHANGES = ZILCH

Taking Credit for other Senator's work; Integrity = ZERO

Posted by: elme | April 29, 2008 4:55 AM | Report abuse

Here's a link to the PBS Bill Moyers interview of Rev. Wright. Please--get informed before you judge.
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/04252008/watch.html

Please evaluate each man on his own merits: Wright is not Obama is not Wright.

To those who argue that "Obama chose to sit in the pews for 20 years listening to anti-American, anti-white blah blah blah," please watch the video or at least read transcripts of the full sermons from which you've been watching out-of-context snippets.

For example, after the "America's chickens are coming home to roost" line, which by the way was a quote from a white ambassador to Iraq, Wright goes on to say this:

"Violence begets violence. Hatred begets hatred. And terrorism begets terrorism. A white ambassador said that y'all, not a black militant. Not a reverend who preaches about racism. An ambassador whose eyes are wide open and who is trying to get us to wake up and move away from this dangerous precipice upon which we are now poised. The ambassador said the people we have wounded don't have the military capability we have. But they do have individuals who are willing to die and take thousands with them. And we need to come to grips with that."

Wright then described seeing the photos of the aftermath of 9/11 because he was in Newark, N.J., when the planes struck. After turning on the TV and seeing the second plane slam into one of the twin towers, he spoke passionately about what if you never got a chance to say hello to your family again.

"What is the state of your family?" he asked.
And then he told his congregation that he loved them and asked the congregants to tell each other that they loved each other.

Finally, I'll add this about remaining with a Church. I'm Catholic, and I disagree with my Church's anti-gay and anti-birth control positions, and I differ with regard to the pro-life versus pro-choice dichotomy. I certainly find it unconscionable that the Church hierarchy allowed the pedophilia and sexual abuse to continue for so long. And yet, as I said, I'm Catholic and have not left my Church. My faith is in my Catholic faith, and pastors and priests themselves are not the Church.

Posted by: StopTheIgnorance | April 29, 2008 4:48 AM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton got the Clean Water & the Safe Drinking Water Acts passed.

The significance with reference to Hillary as President ..being... Bill Clinton did good things to take GOOD care of things IMPORTANT (in the REAL World) to us HUMAN LIFE, like water to drink, and sanitary sewer systems - probably a good indication that his wife AND Political PARTNER will do the same.

Oh, gee, I didn't KNOW writing "style" and speaking "style" is different ....

It's my style, adapted, to the internet
...where...while one may be discussing EXTREMELY Important Matters...one does not have the BENEFIT of Tone, Volume, Inflection...as one DOES when speaking to persons -in person.

Posted by: elme | April 29, 2008 4:47 AM | Report abuse

Elme, that's probably the right approach - when you can't debate intelligently, just call the other person names and ignore everything else he says. You'll go far.

Posted by: Mark O | April 29, 2008 4:45 AM | Report abuse

to Mark:

old enough to recognize your
... limbaugh-like diversionary tactics.

... & I'll pass on responding to any further silly sass-back NOISE from you -since I already recognize your motive for everything you write: The Aggrandizement of your own EGO.

p.s. IMHO - the above text uses caps appropriately.

Posted by: elme | April 29, 2008 4:37 AM | Report abuse

Elme, which Clinton got this passed? The president or the first lady? Or Chelsea? Just wondering.

(Oh and please try to lay off the caps - it makes everything hard to read. Maybe some people talk like that, but writing has a different style.)

Posted by: Mark O | April 29, 2008 4:34 AM | Report abuse

To: Melissa

who wrote:

>

How about Hillary and Bill Clinton? Clinton got the Clean Water Act and the Safe Drinking Water Act passed.

Those Acts established in every state, a State Revolving Fund for Clean Water -to build new Wastewater Treatment Plants & maintain or expand existing ones. The Safe Drinking Water Act did the smae for City AND privately owned water companies.

It was a REVOLVING Fund in the sense that the govt. would/& did for several years provide funds to each state. Each state would then make loans to Wastewater Treatment Plants and Water Companies..
AT Lower Interest Rates ... to build & maintain the infrastructure.

The INITIAL Funds deposited eash year for several years could be [Leveraged - LEFT IN THE BANK, AND DRAWING INTEREST -while-Borrowing Money to make the LOANS to water companies ... by selling their own newly created State Revolving Fund BONDS on the bond market]; Thus, earning interest on the $MILLIONS in Capital In the Bank AND the money loaned out to the water companies; thereby accomplishing:

Big Pile of Capital stays in the bank earning money -making it possible to subsidize lower interest rates for the borrowers. As the interest accumulates and the loans are paid back over the years the FUND$$$ continues to GROW LARGER, and so long as WELL MANAGED will continue to do so IN PERPETUITY.

Pretty good PLAN...INGENIOUS MEANS TO MAINTAIN the infrastructure ... don'tcha think?

Posted by: elme | April 29, 2008 4:27 AM | Report abuse

Anyway, maybe I'm talking to myself, but just to continue that conversation with Frankie58 earlier...

It's clear that a Senate voting record isn't necessarily an indicator of how a president might perform in office. Indeed, most recent presidents haven't even had Senate voting records.

And neither Hillary or Obama have been there long, they're both junior senators, and they've both spent much of the last year and a bit running for president. So looking at their Senate voting records doesn't say a whole lot about them. Look at the totality of their legislative experience (both state and federal), and their careers before they entered politics, and you'd get a better picture.

Hillary has been on this earth a few more years than Obama, so obviously she's done a few more things in her life. And it's truly hard to gauge the value of her many years as First Lady, both in Washington and Arkansas. Should she take credit for her husband's achievements, or was she just there along for the ride? Was her job merely that of a glorified ambassador, or did she contribute to policy? She wasn't a member of the cabinet, she didn't have security clearances, so did she really know what was going on anyway?

But the fact remains that she messed up big on two of the most important issues (at least for me): health care reform, and Iraq. Would she do better if we put her in the White House? Who knows? Her track record isn't good on those two issues, so why take the chance? I'm certainly not.

Posted by: Mark O | April 29, 2008 4:20 AM | Report abuse

Elme,

Exactly how old are *you*? I couldn't understand a word of what you were trying to say! Calm down and lay off of the caps will you?

Posted by: Mark O | April 29, 2008 4:11 AM | Report abuse

Every church is a wonderful place, more so the higher churches and cathedrals all around the world .One stands in awe from the surroundings, inspired by the hymns and songs praising the Almighty God, seeing family and friends together at prayer.

Ignoring Obamas'and Wrights' statements which have caused so much controversy [which I saw as a starting point for individual thinking], I would ask each and every one of you "Holier than thou" types to look in their heart and answer :-.
What did your pastor say at church last week? And the previous week?
Were you praying to God for the understanding and betterment of the world, or were you sometimes wishing that he -your pastor, would hurry up and finish, with the blather that he was spouting.?
Were you praying for your own financial improvement in your present circumstances?
How many of you see the commandments as old rules for the present day "game plan" that you hold in your hearts and follow a different path in your lives?
Were you falling asleep in the pew?
Did you hope that putting those coins or big dollar bills in the collection plate had purged your sins for the week gone by?

I sincerily believe in a God.!!
Unfortunately I have ceased to believe in the word of God based upon the individual thoughts and needs of it's ministry.
Protestant, Catholic .... all church organisations are big, big business these days if not always.

Who would like to cast the first stone????

Posted by: notconvincedatall | April 29, 2008 4:06 AM | Report abuse

To the person who posted:

Neocons for Clinton:

Bill Cristol, Rush Limbaugh ... etc.

How old are you?
You can't see thru the right-wing Republicans' TRANSPARENT attempts to get Obama nominated? ... so they can immediately trot out all the REAL dirt they've had on Obama since the start of this campaign...& get McCain elected.

They TRASH Hillary by saying...their very UNPOPULAR SELVES...like her...so (ignorant) people will attach THEIR UGLY NeoCon NAME where it doesn't belong.

(Duh...yeah, uh huh... that's right Brain
Bill Cristol says he LIKES Hillary, & you know ... we can BELIVE and Trust in ... anything ... Bill Cristol does or says, huh?)

NEXT, IF you're Bill Cristol, Rush Limbaugh, a Republican...& you start off the campaign season...with virtually NO Prospect of getting a Republican elected president ... WHAT do you DO?

Simple, Pinky ... same thing the Republicans ALWAYS Do --DIVIDE & CONQUER--
(How else would a tiny minority of extremely wealthy/extremely greedy people manage to CONTROL a far larger Majority?)

Have the Repubs been using "race" to divide and conquer? Absolutely. For at least all the elections I've seen so far
... & that would be from JFK to today.

They've gone right on winning elections and pulling off MASSIVE Robberies of the American people and the U.S. Treasury ... by selecting their targets and Pumping Up the Hate: welfare cheats, welfare mothers, gays, criminals, addicts, secularists, blacks, mexicans ...

"By their Fruits You Shall Know Them"
Obama preaches unity ... he sows DIVISION.

Posted by: elme | April 29, 2008 4:01 AM | Report abuse

Why do you let morons post the same message in every 5 minutes? It is wasting our time..

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:59 AM | Report abuse

Frankie58,

No, Obama was not in the Senate, but he gave a very good explanation for the reasons why he didn't support the war (as opposed to action in Afghanistan, which he did support, because that's where the Taliban were). It wasn't an anti-war speech, but an anti-dumb-war speech. He outlined many of the problems we'd face if we went into Iraq. And he was right. You should read it in full:
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Barack_Obama's_Iraq_Speech

If he HAD been in the Senate, I would hope this speech would have helped to put a brake on the rush to war that many senators foolishly went along with.

As to his subsequent votes, well that's simple: Once a decision to wage war is made, whether it's a correct one or not, then you support it to the hilt in order to win it. You support the troops - give them the funding, the equipment they need to fight effectively. That's what those votes were about. A total different situation to the initial vote.

You can spin it any way you want, but the basic fact remains: Obama did not support going into Iraq. Hillary did. Period.

Posted by: Mark O | April 29, 2008 3:46 AM | Report abuse

Sorry about the multiple posts only hit the submit one time.....

Posted by: Frankie58 | April 29, 2008 3:38 AM | Report abuse

I just love Jack Smith's "You Might be an Idiot" post on these pages.

If you want to help save your country, your children, grandchildren ... copy & paste it to every Blog you can ... LOCALLY ... in each of the upcoming primary states. Just Google: North Carolina blogs politics, Indiana blogs politics, etc...& get 'er DONE.

Posted by: elme | April 29, 2008 3:38 AM | Report abuse

Barack Obama is the person who is running for office. Not Rev. Wright, not Bill Ayers. Hillary Clinton is running for office - not the Weathermen or FALN terorists her husband pardoned.

Let's discuss where the candidates stand on the issues.
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Obama - voted against the war
Clinton - voted for it
Obama wants to use diplomacy in the middle East
Clinton just threatened to nuke Iran
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If you go to the US Senate Homepage and look at the voting records you will find that:

1. Obama could not have voted against the war he WAS NOT even a Senator when the Authoriztion was passed. But..look at 2007 and you will find that he voted for the reauthorization and funding. If he is so against it, why the yes vote???
2. Look at his entire voting record and you will see that he has voted almost IDENTICAL to the rest of the party. He says he wants to unite the country and do away with the "normal" polictical machine, yet his actions in the Senate say something totally different don't they? Hillary has alot of "bad baggage", most we all know, but as we have seen in the last few weeks, Obama's is starting to surface and all he can do deny and make excuses, then say one thing and when he's caught, change his story yet again. An empty suit promising something everyone of you want to hear, yet will be unachieveable.

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Denise Oliver-Velez posted:

Obama - voted against the war
Clinton - voted for it
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Denise, first of all he was not even in the Senate when the original vote was approved, so he couldn't have voted against it. Second, please answer this one simple question, If he is so against the war why did he vote YES when the vote came up for reauthorization last year??? Don't believe me check the Senate voting records, in fact he has voted almost identical to Clinton and the other Democrats. The one vote that really stood out was the one that would make it a felony to take minors across state line to another state to circumvent the laws of the state the minor resided in, only 3 dems voted NO, guess who one of them was (Hint..it wasn't Clinton) So tell me, how is different from the rest? This guy is nothing but a great speaker and an empty suit.

Posted by: Frankie58 | April 29, 2008 3:09 AM | Report abuse

HILLARY VOTED FOR THE WAR


Yes she did........Barack did Not.

One could say he didn't want his Brothers against the UNITED STATES harmed, as they will fight to destroy us. How patriotic of Obama.

Maybe Obama will just simply ask our enemies to "reconcile" themselves to us. I sorta don't think that hope and change tatic will work.

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Denise Oliver-Velez posted:

Obama - voted against the war
Clinton - voted for it
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Denise, first of all he was not even in the Senate when the original vote was approved, so he couldn't have voted against it. Second, please answer this one simple question, If he is so against the war why did he vote YES when the vote came up for reauthorization last year??? Don't believe me check the Senate voting records, in fact he has voted almost identical to Clinton and the other Democrats. The one vote that really stood out was the one that would make it a felony to take minors across state line to another state to circumvent the laws of the state the minor resided in, only 3 dems voted NO, guess who one of them was (Hint..it wasn't Clinton) So tell me, how is different from the rest? This guy is nothing but a great speaker and an empty suit.

Posted by: Frankie58 | April 29, 2008 3:09 AM | Report abuse

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BARAK OBAMA: PINKO STOOL PIGEON

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Denise Oliver-Velez posted:

Obama - voted against the war
Clinton - voted for it
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Denise, first of all he was not even in the Senate when the original vote was approved, so he couldn't have voted against it. Second, please answer this one simple question, If he is so against the war why did he vote YES when the vote came up for reauthorization last year??? Don't believe me check the Senate voting records, in fact he has voted almost identical to Clinton and the other Democrats. The one vote that really stood out was the one that would make it a felony to take minors across state line to another state to circumvent the laws of the state the minor resided in, only 6 dems voted NO, guess who one of them was (Hint..it wasn't Clinton she voted for it) So tell me, how is different from the rest? This guy is nothing but a great speaker and an empty suit.

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BARAK OBAMA: PINKO STOOL PIGEON

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BARAK OBAMA: PINKO STOOL PIGEON

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BARAK OBAMA: PINKO STOOL PIGEON

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BARAK OBAMA: PINKO STOOL PIGEON

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Barak Obama: Pinko Stool Pigeon

Posted by: Johnny Democracy | April 29, 2008 3:03 AM | Report abuse

I would bomb Pakistan!

Barak Obama, October 2007

Posted by: janeisfree | April 29, 2008 2:59 AM | Report abuse

What, and now does Obama turn his back on his religion as well? On Rev. Wright?

WHERE DO YOU STAND BARACK?


Character, Sound Judgement, Courage of Convictions. Isn't that how we are measured?

BARACK VOTED TO ATTEND A WHITE HATE {BLT} CHURCH!!!!!!!

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Posted by: Hanns Schlimmer | April 29, 2008 2:54 AM | Report abuse

I wanted to vote for Hillary initially. But after seeing the type of dirty campaign she is engaged in Hillary can kiss my vote goodbye. She is bad for America. I can sense that her campaign is probably behind Wrights tour of the talkshows. Obama did not disown Wright only for the fact that Wright is an elder and was involved in his baptism and marriage. But the Hillary camp is certainly playing dirty politics by giving Wright money under the table to speak up before the May 6th primaries. There is no other reason why Wright will be making the speeches at this juncture.

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Why didn't Obam just go to a undenominational church if he tryly wanted to unite us instead of Trinity? Obams judgement? This just says alot.

Main Entry: de·nom·i·na·tion
Pronunciation: \di-ˌnä-mə-ˈnā-shən\
Function: noun
Date: 15th century
1: an act of denominating
2: a value or size of a series of values or sizes (as of money)
3: name, designation; especially : a general name for a category
4: a religious organization whose congregations are united in their adherence to its beliefs and practices


A RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION WHOSE CONGREGATIONS ARE UNTIED IN THERE ADHERENCE TO IT"S BELIEFS AND PRACTICES.

What, and now do Obama turn his back on his religion as well? On Rev. Wright?

WHERE DO YOU STAND BARACK?


Character, Sound Judgement, Courage of Convictions. Isn't that how we are measured?

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 2:44 AM | Report abuse

A major part of the $10 mil Hillary collected from her fans after the Pennsylvania primary is going to rev.Wright to make his press conferences before the May 6th elections. Given time Hillary will even get Obama's wife to turn up on talk shows to talk against Obama.

Posted by: Bill Straton | April 29, 2008 2:43 AM | Report abuse

and how many u.s. servicemen were killed today in iraq. one is one too many. yeah, i think we should stay there for another 100 years...no fool like an old fool.

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 2:38 AM | Report abuse

rev. Wright is probably paid by the Clinton campaign to speak up at this juncture. Some dudes though they have the title 'reverand' attached to them are really morons. They use the name of God to mouth off whatever C R A P they can. Let us not forget Bill Clinton and Jesse Jackson in the 90s. When Bill Clinton was plagued by the Monica Lewinsky scandal, rev. Jesse Jackson became his pastor giving him advise on a daily basis. At the same time Jesse Jackson himself was carrying on an affair with his secretary and got her pregnant. Now the Clintons are point fingers at Obama for his past affiliation with a church were rev.Wright was the pastor.

Posted by: Tarone Smalley | April 29, 2008 2:38 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 2:24 AM | Report abuse

jacksmith, when Bill gave favored trading status to Vietnam and China -- on top of NAFTA -- he cut the remaining legs out from underneath the manufacturing sector. $20 dollar an hour jobs in manufacturing were transformed overnight to $6 and $8 dollar service sector jobs. That is part of the Clinton legacy.

When he signed off on media consolidation and relaxing regulatory oversight -- especially in connection with firms like Arthur Anderson -- he helped set the stage for a nice tax-payer bailout.

The war alone is costing taxpayers $12.5 billion a month with out year totals going up to $1 trillion. That is a massive waste of public resources.

God bless America's working class. And God bless whoever the Democratic nominee is going to be in November.

On just a simple issue like the gas tax though -- even on this current one -- Obama is talking sense; Clinton is pandering. A tax holiday does nothing.

If politicians were serious they would immediately halt purchases connected to the strategic petroleum reserve -- even better they would release a 100 to 200 million barrels this summer to ease consumer prices in a real way. For a so called rookie though -- on economic policy -- Obama is talking sense. His funding sources too -- from a large number of ordinary Americans -- make him a lot less beholden to the Washington's special interest corporate lobbies.

Nothing left to debate on the Democratic side -- these candidates have spelled out their positions; and there are paper trails and voting records to look to as well.

Instead of issues though, we keep getting more media generated distractions.

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 2:10 AM | Report abuse

DEBATE! DEBATE!! DEBATE!!!

It's time for everyone to face the truth. Barack Obama has no real chance of winning the national election in November at this time. His crushing defeat in Pennsylvania makes that fact crystal clear. His best, and only real chance of winning in November is on a ticket with Hillary Clinton as her VP.

Hillary Clinton seemed almost somber at her Pennsylvania victory speech. As if part of her was hoping Obama could have proved he had some chance of winning against the republican attack machine, and their unlimited money, and resources.

But it is absolutely essential that the democrats take back the Whitehouse in November. America, and the American people are in a very desperate condition now. And the whole World has been doing all that they can to help keep us propped up.

Hillary Clinton say's that the heat, and decisions in the Whitehouse are much tougher than the ones on the campaign trail. But I think Mr. Obama faces a test of whether he has what it takes to be a commander and chief by facing the difficult facts, and the truth before him. And by doing what is best for the American people by dropping out of the race, and offering his whole hearted assistance to Hillary Clinton to help her take back the Whitehouse for the American people, and the World.

Mr. Obama is a great speaker. And I am confident he can explain to the American people the need, and wisdom of such a personal sacrifice for them. It should be clear to everyone by now that Hillary Clinton is fighting her heart out for the American people. She has known for a long time that Mr. Obama can not win this November. You have to remember that the Clinton's have won the Whitehouse twice before. They know what it takes.

If Mr. Obama fails his test of commander and chief we can only hope that Hillary Clinton can continue her heroic fight for the American people. And that she prevails. She will need all the continual support and help we can give her. She may fight like a superhuman. But she is only human.

Sen. Hillary Clinton: "You know, more people have now voted for me than have voted for my opponent. In fact, I now have more votes than anybody has ever had in a primary contest for a nomination. And it's also clear that we've got nine more important contests to go."

Sincerely

Jacksmith... Working Class :-)

Posted by: jacksmith | April 29, 2008 2:08 AM | Report abuse

It is quite obvious to me that Reverend Wright is a nut job who likes to clown for cameras. Nobody is responsible for Wright but Wright. When it's all said and done, he doesn't give a darn about Obama and he certainly doesn't speak to Black America. Wright claims when Farakhan speaks, Black America listens. I did listen to soundbites years ago, and realized he is a sick and pathetic man. I feel the same way about Wright. Both of them need a reality check and some medicine.

Posted by: Wanakee Hill | April 29, 2008 2:06 AM | Report abuse

Read "Uncle Sam's Plantation." By Star Parker and get educated.

Posted by: Dumbleftwing | April 29, 2008 2:03 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 2:01 AM | Report abuse

Your absolutely right Hillary. You can't choose your family but you can choose your pastor. And you can choose to go to a sham war, kill over 100.000 Iraqis and 4000 US service men and woman. Tough choice.

Posted by: Woody | April 29, 2008 1:59 AM | Report abuse

If Obam is really so different why does he and Rev sound so much alike.

" I "BELIEVE" a "CHANGE" is going to come.

Now we know where Obam got his slogan, yet he didn't listen to the Rev.

Believe, Change, Hope---White people must repent and reconcile themselves to the black man.

Well, a lot of these people never had a slave, never owned a boat, had not even been born during slavery. Why do they have to repent? for something they had nothing to do with?

Racism is a ISSUE! HELLO? It's called NATIONAL AND DOMESTIC THREAT!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:54 AM | Report abuse

I will vote for Rev. Jeremiah Wright, at least I know where he stands and he mirrors the image of the Democrat Party.

Posted by: NAACP | April 29, 2008 1:53 AM | Report abuse

IF OBAMA CANT TAKE CARE OF THE REV-THEN HOW IS HE GOING TO TAKE OF ALL OF US.

Posted by: missouri | April 29, 2008 1:52 AM | Report abuse

I want everyone to realize from the postings on this blog to defimate this black man. Look at how many people who are so quick to point out that his middle name is Hussein, why because you people are trying to vilify him. No one refers to Hilary with her middle name or McCain with his!! Why are people so quick to believe that this educated, eloquent and accomplished man is all of a suddent so dumb that he sucks up everything he hears from his former pastor. Speak the truth America, as far as most of the bloggers on this site are considered this n*ger forgot his place and you all feel the need to kick him back to where he came from. Be real that is where this is all coming from!!! But what do you expect from a country that elects an idiots who spent 8 years slowly bleeding your country dry and sending your children to die.

Americans don't deserve a man like Senator Obama!! You deserve whatever you get nothing! PEACE

Posted by: Deeply Saddened | April 29, 2008 1:49 AM | Report abuse

Call me suspcicious but dont you find it rather funny that Hillary is keeping mum all of a sudden on Rev. Wright since he has been on tv. I mean come on...she was the first to jump on the band wagon about Rev. Wright...even in that lousy so called debate a week ago. I smell something funny...

Posted by: Linda | April 29, 2008 1:46 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:44 AM | Report abuse

CarrieG1 -- I'm in a similar boat. Living on a tight budget teaches a person hard lessons about fiscal responsibility. Those lessons are lost quickly though when a politician has a $200 million trust fund to fall back on. Completely different universe.

Posted by: JP2 | April 29, 2008 1:43 AM | Report abuse

If about 90% of the posters on this site belong to the Democratic party, I can certainly understand why we Democrats keep getting the same old results almost every election cycle. Rev. Wright, in the posted opinions, just gives most of the closet bigots a reason to be out and out racists.
Our Lord will see to the matter of the right and wrong of J. Wright. We had best get busy not judging lest we be judged!

Posted by: DP | April 29, 2008 1:42 AM | Report abuse

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Yeah, the united state of delusion. McCain is going to win. You may win the nomination but, you will lose the race. Then what has come about and the new knowledge that is spread.


BTW all dominations teah BLT, Baptist, methodist, Presbyterian and so on. So Rev. can't baffel me with BS about the other dominations showing support for him, nice try.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:39 AM | Report abuse

WHY DO THE NEOCONS SUPPORT CLINTON?

Because you are to dumb to understand!

Posted by: NEOCONS for CLINTON | April 29, 2008 1:39 AM | Report abuse

I am a big Obama supporter and I wish the Rev. would realize that hey this election is not about him. I think he is jealous that Obama is in the spot light and not him. I thought the Bill Moyer interview was good, event the NAACP was good to but the Press Club was a scene from Mad TV.
I guess it does do some good and lets people know even clearer that OBama shares NONE of his views!!!

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:31 AM | Report abuse

Why does Obama remind me of the German leader during the second world war?
He was a good speaker and all the bobble- heads behind him agreed with him.

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Posted by: German - American | April 29, 2008 1:30 AM | Report abuse

Sueb2 @1:05, thank you for your encouraging words. We have Catholic friends who also stayed in the church. Are they child molesters? Did they approve of priests who were? The idea is ludicrous. The church is an organization of imperfect humans, struggling to find hope and meaning through a relationship with God. Yes, it is flawed, but when the world can offer me a better solution I would gladly listen. So far in 2000 years no one has.

Posted by: Denni D. | April 29, 2008 1:25 AM | Report abuse

And once again Barack Hussein Obama's POOR
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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:22 AM | Report abuse

I am not making this up. Split priorites? True Patriot? Looks divisive to me.


Yeah, Barack can change the flag to his "other home country" of Indoneisha.

Candidacy 1/22/07
Barack Obama
Current Job/Position: Senator from Illinois
Hometown: Jakarta, Indonesia; Honolulu, HI
Status: Statement of Candidacy 2/12/07


This was in the Washington post.com as well as creators.com/elections that posted these on all in the race at the begining of the races.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:20 AM | Report abuse

P.S.I just saw the post from JP2 and it's encouraging to see that someone gets it, and that the summer gas tax cut is not a good idea. My husband is a highway engineer for our state DOT and he had many valid reasons why it would not produce any lasting solution and could indeed be harmful. Sad to say that the "blue collar workers" who seem to be determining our future will latch onto the proposal and vote accordingly. Lest anyone accuse me of being an elitist, we live from paycheck to paycheck and coudl use any help we could get as much as the next person.

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:16 AM | Report abuse

Hang in there, Barack! You have the right idea. Let's get this campaign back where it belongs - on real issues. The fog machine is working extra hard right now and your Reverend is playing right into it, puffing out great clouds of smoke himself. Nobody said this would be easy.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

?The more precise question is: why do the neocons attack (only) Obama??

Posted by: Jack | April 29, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

Excuse me, "the media" is being divisive? This "trash" they are throwing at us? And waht is that trash?

Come on people. Who are the candidates? Can't you see what's happening? Can't you all see what the media is doing? The media is being divisive And it's tearing the country apart, Change you channels when you see negative comments/adds coming up.
Really see through the trash that the media is throwing at US

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:14 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:10 AM | Report abuse

Why didn't Obam just go to a undenominational church if he tryly wanted to unite us instead of Trinity? Obams judgement? This just says alot.

Main Entry: de·nom·i·na·tion
Pronunciation: \di-ˌnä-mə-ˈnā-shən\
Function: noun
Date: 15th century
1: an act of denominating
2: a value or size of a series of values or sizes (as of money)
3: name, designation; especially : a general name for a category
4: a religious organization whose congregations are united in their adherence to its beliefs and practices

A RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION WHOSE CONGREGATIONS ARE UNTIED IN THERE ADHERENCE TO IT"S BELIEFS AND PRACTICES.

What, and now do Obama turn his back on his religion as well? On Rev. Wright?

WHERE DO YOU STAND BARACK?


Character, Sound Judgement, Courage of Convictions. Isn't that how we are measured?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:09 AM | Report abuse

Obama for President, Oprah for Vice-President, of Africa.

Posted by: Rev. Jeremiah Wright | April 29, 2008 1:09 AM | Report abuse

separation of church and state remember? Mr Obama has nothing he should say and should allow a person white, black , or pink to say what they want. Freedom of speech remember?

Posted by: DRC | April 29, 2008 1:09 AM | Report abuse

You know whats funny...all these Obama bashers...if their great candidate is elected and starts up with Iran...I say let them go fight it...they wanted her as Pres. Leave us others out that didnt want her happy nuke em thoughts ...oh also...he didnt say God Damn America...if you had bothered to listen to the whole sermon it was an ambassador that said that not Wright. Duh. It just shows the intelligence of Hillary supporters. They get right down in the gutter with her.

Posted by: Linda | April 29, 2008 1:08 AM | Report abuse

Why is the media fixated on Rev. Wright and his ties to Sen. Obama when Sen. Clinton is making statements like "we can totally obliterate" Iran and there's nary a whisper of it? I fear for America.

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:07 AM | Report abuse

Denni D--

Thank you for your post, I agree wholeheartedly. I'm catholic and I didn't leave the church in the midst of the child molestation scandal although it bothered me greatly and still does. I just wish we could all get back to talking about the issues that matter.

Posted by: Sueb2 | April 29, 2008 1:05 AM | Report abuse

Bob, I'm assuming that's $30 over the course of the summer (e.g. at 18 cents per gallon that works out to about $2.70 per fill-up).

Worth noting that that money comes out of infrastructure funds which are already woefully underfunded.

In other words, when the next bridge collapses in this country we can thanks McSame. Plus we get to repay those differed taxes with interest for the next 30 years.

A serious approach would be to release some of the strategic petroleum reserve, which is currently at about 97 percent capacity.

Perhaps though that supply is being kept on reserve for when McBush (or his spiritual mentor George W. Bush) bombs Iran.

Wonderful.

Posted by: JP2 | April 29, 2008 1:03 AM | Report abuse

"Dennie D", ain't that the truth!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:03 AM | Report abuse

Look at us all. Nobody talks to each other about issues. Nobody listens to anyone else. We respond to the bigots and the jerks and try to get them to try to see reason--to no avail. We threaten each other with withholding our votes entirely or voting for the other party. Why is the DNC allowing this to go on? Barack Obama is a supremely able and electable candidate. He can help us to get past the gridlock and partisanship that affects every other issue that faces us. He'll get us out of Iraq responsibly and carefully. He won't start a war with Iran like McCain or put a nuclear umbrella over the entire mideast as Clinton has threatened to do. I urge anyone interested in learning about what Obama stands for to go to barackobama.com and see for yourselves.

Posted by: Sueb2 | April 29, 2008 1:01 AM | Report abuse

My husband and I are middle aged and white. We attended a mainstream protestant church for over 20 years where two different pastors had affairs and another was found to be a habitual liar. In spite of those issues, we kept hoping things would get better. Also, certain things were said when we were not in attendance. You build up friendships and a sense of community, and when we finally did leave it was a long, painful process, and we still feel traumatized from it. Please don't judge Sen. Obama too harshly because he didn't walk out of the church 15 years ago. He was a relatively new Christian and possibly didn't have the judgement he should have, as we didn't. If someone were to accuse me of the same ideas/practices of some of our pastors it would be totally false. If guilt by association is going to be the standard for this nomination, then the media needs to look closely into Sen. Clinton's former associations and see if there might be a Rev. Wight lurking there. If Sen. Obama can handle the things that have been thrown at him during the past 6 weeks with the grace and diplomacy he's shown, then I am confident he could handle any crisis the presidency would present. Let's not let the opportunity to have a man of integrity who would help to restore our poor image overseas slip away by focusing on these types of "guilt by association" issues. If Sen. Clinton's campaign was judged on her association with her husband and his behavior as Obama is being judged on Rev. Wright it would be a horse a piece.

Posted by: Denni D. | April 29, 2008 1:01 AM | Report abuse

Hey, Obama supporters, don't be discouraged...Obama's doing just fine...he will be nominated, (he's already won) and he'll beat McCain in November. Your man's going to be the next president of the U.S.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:01 AM | Report abuse

voteright

why the packs of lies posted. We can see how you can be realted to Ms Clinton.

Miss-spoke?? not the truth. The correct word is LIES as ussual

Posted by: nechi | April 29, 2008 1:01 AM | Report abuse

Hillary is a Communist!

Posted by: Berry O'Bama | April 29, 2008 1:00 AM | Report abuse

Clinton and MCcain campaign wants to IMPEACH senator Obama for issues that are nothing but irrelevant and redundant.

say NO to the impeachment of senator Obama

Posted by: alma ludivina | April 29, 2008 12:59 AM | Report abuse

Come on people. Who are the candidates? Can't you see what's happening? Can't you all see what the media is doing? The media is being divisive And it's tearing the country apart, Change you channels when you see negative comments/adds coming up.
Really see through the trash that the media is throwing at US. Don't make Comments on stupidity. We should all get back to the issues that is so pressing on the nation. We are at war. People are hungry, Food is scarce, The checks coming in cannot pay the bills going out. Gas price is "Overwhelming" for us regular people. The rich commentators in the media are making a large salary on Obama's and Wrights coat tails.
Yes, I believe in heart that Obama is best suited for president, because the republicans are waiting to tear Clinton apart. You have not seen the entire kitchen yet. But who you vote for is more important
Than the garbage we are getting from the so called intelligent media.
LET US ALL MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR OURSELVES
Let's get a grip "BOYCUT" the channels that cannot deliver what is important to us.
CHANGE THE CHANNELS/ TUNE THEM OUT/AND SUPPORT YOUR CANDIDATE AND WHERE THE HELL ARE THE SO CALLED BROTHERS AND SISTERS, BLACKS WHITES, ASIANS, INDIANS, HISPANICS THAT WANT A DIFFERENCE IN THEIR LIVES.
WHY ARE THEY IN HOMES WITH THIS CRAP GET THEM ALL OUT.

DON'T ALLOW THIS MESS TO HAPPENWHAT HAS Ms. CLINTON EVER REALY DONE FOR YOU OR FOR NY or NYC "0" ZERO "

Posted by: nechi | April 29, 2008 12:55 AM | Report abuse

Yes, correct, and Hillary is continuing to offer up DETAILED solutions.
Hillary VOTES YES for the Gas Tax Relief, Barack DOES NOT.
Hillary VOTES YES for UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE, Barack Does Not. Hillary is voting Yes because she has enough nerve to actually speak up about it.
UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE will lead to so many other people-programs in the United States. It's time to RALLY for the True LEADER. It's time to Rally for Hillary!!

Posted by: VoteRight | April 29, 2008 12:55 AM | Report abuse

Gas tax relief. Great idea, but the tax is not as much as everyone thinks it is. Here's the math. The federal tax is 18 cents a gallon. McCain wants to suspend it for three months. Works out to about $30 per person on average. 1/2 a tank of gas. That's McCain's economic relief package. A brilliant man. His extension of the Bush tax cuts will cost us billions, and will help his millionaire aging trophy wife the most. A lot more than $30 measly dollars.

Posted by: Bill | April 29, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

Don't even try to categorize Hillary Clinton with any racist or Bigot like Pastor Wright.

Hillary has been more "PC" than anyone you can name, including the press, her fellow candidates, etc., etc.

What Hillary HAS done is call on Barack to rise to the Challenge of being a LEADER of this country, and in my opinion, BARACK has failed!

Hillary is the one that's hanging in there and doing the good thing. Don't try to paint her as something she's not!

Posted by: Hillary For President | April 29, 2008 12:52 AM | Report abuse

Oh yeah, we should worship Barack and Pastor Wright!! And we should also murder those who don't say GOD D**MN AMERICA!!

Oh and we should also use our American flag for toilet paper, and of course then we can PAVE OVER ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETERY, after we spit on every grave first!!

Get Real!

Posted by: Yeah Right | April 29, 2008 12:50 AM | Report abuse

Many on this post seem to think that Obama is linked at the hip to Wright, which he is not. But why not question Clinton on her many strange associations: Gov Ed Rendell, who praised Farrakhan when he was mayor of Philadelphia, the secretive, conservative prayer group "Fellowship" or "Family" that Hillary has belonged to since 1993 that has ties to dictators like Suharto, Hillary's own radical left past, in which she actually took a job clerking for a radical law firm run by communists in 1971 in Berkeley, and her public lobbying for the passage of NAFTA. She is not being held to account for any of her associations and actions. Obama is being creamed by the press over little stuff.

Posted by: Goldie | April 29, 2008 12:50 AM | Report abuse

The only people who care about Rev. Wright are the rival campaigns, the political pundits, and the media. Why?! Because most of those folks could care less about gasoline costing $4 per gallon or the need for affordable health care.

You are very wrong about that. Why? because most folks are now looking at black churches in general and black liberation theology in paticular. This is a very serious Domestic Threat for those of you that can not see past your nose.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:49 AM | Report abuse

Rev. Wright, is a man we should all listen to . Being a so called Christian, mind you not attending church I am amused at HOW BITTER SOME OF YOU ARE. Really now, keep it up and show your true colors. The world will not judge or even spend 30 seconds on the garbage and hate shown. GET YPOR GUNS OUT, NUKE THE WORLD.

Posted by: justada55 | April 29, 2008 12:45 AM | Report abuse

Barack is such a hypocrite, he says he runs a candidacy for hope and change and unity and bears and rangers being friends and yet he is traveling around the country saying "Hillary is throwing a kitchen sink, and dishes, and the buffet at me". What? "Kitchen sink and dishes?" What is this supposed to mean? Is this another "bitter" comment?

Barack Obama doesn't care about the working class voter, he aims to raise taxes for them, not provide them with a UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE PROGRAM, and possibly take away their rights to own guns and worship who they want.

"Obama vulnerable on firearms issue"
http://washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080419/NATION/121864374/1002&template=nextpage


"The United States is the only wealthy, industrialized nation that does not provide universal health care."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care

People that are against Universal Healthcare are probably:
Working as an insurance company exec and are paid a lot of money by "Profiting" from denying people care that are dying.
Uninformed to the fact that the US is the only modern country that doesn't take care of its people with a Universal Healthcare program.
Don't realize that having Universal Healthcare will boost our economy and make things better for the working class.
Universal Healthcare will lead to other "for the people" changes(that other countries already know about), such as fewer overtime hours, more focus on family, and "Preventing" health problems as opposed to reporting to the Emergency room only to find out it's too late.

Posted by: Read This | April 29, 2008 12:43 AM | Report abuse

Your all a bunch of anti - American Communist!

Posted by: Bill | April 29, 2008 12:43 AM | Report abuse

Perhaps since Barack doesn't care for our flag, he can replace it while he's president.

Also, he could have it removed from our funeral processes for those who have paid the ultimate price for our country and way of life.
http://www.flags.com/faqdesk_info.html?faqPath=3&faqdesk_id=13

Perhaps Barack can also make a parking lot out of Arlington national cemetery because all those who lie there are part of the "old" ways that need "change".

Don't fall for Baracks lies, you are better and smarter people than this.

Hillary is the one that will help the country, because she cares about America.

Posted by: Something | April 29, 2008 12:42 AM | Report abuse

If Obama becomes President, I suggest everyone begin studying the Koran . . . like right away.

And those in Israel, say your prayers because you're toast.

Posted by: B. Lloyd | April 29, 2008 12:39 AM | Report abuse


Dear Governor Dean,

As a voter who originally intended to vote for a Democratic Presidential Primary Candidate, I am writing to encourage you to help save the chances that the Democratic National Party has for putting a President in office.

First of all, I believe that if we would have had all Primary ballot voting as opposed to using the cumbersome caucus process, the Democratic candidate would have already been selected. That candidate would without a doubt be Hillary Clinton. But instead, perhaps even on purpose, the powers that be have tried to push Mr. Obama into the Primary as the candidate. Barack Obama has had the most favortism from the press during his run and has been overwhelmingly favored by the caucus process because the people who have the opportunity to get out and make it to the caucus are squarely Mr. Obama's demographic target groups. Hillary Clinton's target group, the working class(and also majority of America) are actually less capable of making it to a caucus likely because they are working or too old to be mobile enough to make it.

Second, and more importantly, with the recent coming out of skeletons-in-closet, Barack Obama has proven that he cannot make the candidacy as the nominee. I mean really, outspending Hillary 3 to 1 in Pennsylvania and still losing the contest? Very serious doubts about Obama's electibility have arisen and there's no way the majority of voters are going to select him to be the President. And by not having a Universal Healthcare Program, Obama is not properly representing the Democratic Party in my opinion. America is the only wealthy, industrialized nation in the world that doesn't have a Universal Healthcare Program. This is very, very bad!! This leaves the Democrats in a bad position because of all the hype that has been generated by Obama, which will make it more painful for a percentage of voters to rally behind Hillary Clinton. However, I believe it to still be entirely possible for the Democrats to rally behind Hillary Clinton given the direct endorsement of Obama after he drops out of the contest.

So at this juncture it's about UN-alienating the 2.xx MILLION voters of Michigan and Florida by seating their delegates in a way that is representative to their original votes. This is only fair. Splitting the votes half and half basically DOES NOTHING but mock the voters! Also, Hillary will get the deserved advantage of being awarded more delegates in this scenario because that's what she already won.

So this is a message about UNITING the Democrats of America by giving Hillary Clinton the credit she rightly deserves and stop playing this nonsense of trying to force the UN-electable candidate into the nomination.

But don't take my word for it. If you look around, you will find that many people like me are going to give their vote to the Honorable John McCain if the press and the DNC(or whoever is rigging the system) succeeds in forcing Mr. Obama into the nomination.

Thanks for reading.

Regards,

Working Class Voter

Posted by: Working Class | April 29, 2008 12:38 AM | Report abuse

NEOCONS FOR CLINTON:

William (Bill) Kristol; Editor of the Weekly Standard, key pusher for invading Iraq, talking about Hillary Clinton:


"I like to be on Hillary's side"


"She is a good candidate"


"I am with her. I am with her"
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352785,00.html


Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:38 AM | Report abuse

I see nothing in Rev. Wright that even closely resembles Barack Obama.

Rev. Wright is clearly his own man, with his own show, his own reflections of life in this country as he has lived and witnessed it and, consequently, his own set of values.

With most of today's fanatical preachers having charge of large congregations in America one should wonder how any parishioner emerges with most of their own character and vaules still in tact. I can associate with members who remain at their church because of the churchs' outreach ministry inspite of the leadership they are given by the church. (Witness the Catholic church).

Being privy to most of the day's media coverage of Mr. Wright, I am comfortable and convinced that Barack is not Rev. Wright and that there is no Barack Obama in the person of Rev. Wright.

I salute Barack Obama. I now have a better understanding of his own deeper character; his ability to remain loyal to the "parent" organization of his church and their mission inspite of the temporal leadership of Rev. Wright.

Rev. Wright seems most capable of dancing with the media and rightly so; they are the ones who brung him.

Posted by: Reggie Boykins | April 29, 2008 12:37 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:36 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA 08!

Posted by: OBAMA 08! | April 29, 2008 12:34 AM | Report abuse

Obama......in his heart he knows he's Wright.

Posted by: jojo | April 29, 2008 12:32 AM | Report abuse



Code Pink 'Bundles' for Barack
by Catherine Moy

The co-founder of the radical anti-war group Code Pink has "bundled" more than $50,000 for Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign, and pro-troops groups are demanding that he return the money.

Jodie Evans, a Code Pink leader, gathered at least $50,000 from friends and associates and donated it to Obama's presidential campaign, according to information compiled by the nonpartisan watchdog group, Public Citizen.

Evans and her son, a student who lives at her Southern California address, each also gave the maximum individual allowable donation of $2,300 to Obama's campaign.

The donations have raised questions about Obama's association with the more radical elements of his base. Code Pink has harassed, vandalized and impeded military recruiters across the United States in a campaign it calls "counter-recruitment." The group also gave $600,000 to the families of Iraqi terrorists in Fallujah, whom it called "insurgents" fighting for their homes.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=25997

Posted by: Typical White Person | April 29, 2008 12:30 AM | Report abuse

Obama is Unelectable. It's not about an isolated incident, it's about the patterns. Search google with these terms:
obama no flag pin
obama no hand on heart
michelle obama first time proud
obama ayers
obama wright God Da** America
obama says the majority of America clings to guns and religion
Obama continues to have skeletons jumping out of his closet and mauling voter's faces.
This has got to stop!!
Obama does not want to debate with Hillary, Obama says the press is treating him bad, Obama doesn't support Universal Healthcare, Obama doesn't have good plans for the working class.
The working class is the majority of America, Obama does not support the Working Class.
Hillary is the one for the Working Class.
Insurance companies don't like Hillary because she is going to make them give back more of the money they are raping from us Working Class.
Big companies may not like Hillary because she isn't bought off like Obama is.

Posted by: Wake Up America | April 29, 2008 12:30 AM | Report abuse

Is it just possible that the Rev. Wright, who has the Farrakahn body guards with him, might have something on Barack Obama, that Obama does not want shared? Perhaps something like,for example an accusation that Obama received the help of the Farrakahn team to head up and organize the caucus states for him. Nobody has better grass roots than Farakahn, look how he organized the million man march and we all know it was amazing--how Obama had the huge organizations to swoop into those caucus states for him. Who were those people and who sent them?

Posted by: swoosie | April 29, 2008 12:30 AM | Report abuse

Do the Wright thing.

Just say NO to Nobama.

Posted by: AndyfromVA | April 29, 2008 12:29 AM | Report abuse

APOLOGY!!! APOLOGY!!!
TO: AJ
Sorry AJ it wasn't you that I was referring to in my last comment. It was intended for whomever it was that posted that comment at 12:14 A.M. Apparently they weren't bold enough to take ownership for that CHEAP SHOT! Sorry AJ.

Posted by: Ebonyflash | April 29, 2008 12:27 AM | Report abuse

APOLOGY!!! APOLOGY!!!
TO: AJ
Sorry AJ it wasn't you that I was referring to in my last comment. It was intended for whomever it was that posted that comment at 12:14 A.M. Apparently they weren't bold enough to take ownership for that CHEAP SHOT! Sorry AJ.

Posted by: Ebonyflash | April 29, 2008 12:27 AM | Report abuse

Same speech, same day, 2 cities in NC. He invokes RAPPER JAY-Z (knife) and at the same line gives the finger. NOTE. Crowds reaction and 2 different sets of people in the background on these two videos.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoOFp-RDpvM


www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhkq11UExcw

Posted by: STEVEO | April 29, 2008 12:23 AM | Report abuse

To AJ:
See it's comments like yours that start s##@ between the races. That comment is not in focus with the issue at hand. The deal is: "Obama needing to distance homself from his pastor". Now where are you trying to go? I know where you can with that attitude of yours. How about just go to bed and let adults converse on the issues. Thanks.

Posted by: Ebonyflash | April 29, 2008 12:21 AM | Report abuse

How is it possible that Obama can SHAM this loser Wright point of view into our society? "Change and Hope and a bright tomorrow, and a weekly dose of GOD D**N AMERICA!!!" HOW DOES THIS MAKE SENSE TO PEOPLE that Obama has any judgemental skills at all, after attributing so much to this psychopath? Barack FAILED the president test, there's NO WAY America is going to vote for him as President. He needs to step out of the way and let the real candidate come forward.

Posted by: NoWay | April 29, 2008 12:18 AM | Report abuse

Why don't blacks begin to educate themselves instead of thinking of the past, like slavery!! If they spent half thier time in school and trying to make the world a better place, instead of ripping everyone apart, they might drive mercedes and live in Beverly Hills also, instead of living at the LA County Jail.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:14 AM | Report abuse

They say Pastor Wright has all these degrees and is so intelligent. I disagree, and not that I'm saying he doesn't have the degrees and stuff, but because if he were truly intelligent, he could use such a BETTER, MORE POSITIVE MESSAGE to impart people with Knowledge. Pastor Wright is a crackpot, and it's a real shame that he's in a position to influence so many people with so much hate for the land that people are dying for. The problem with Obama is that he doesn't have the sound judgement enough to have told this joker to go pack sand a long time ago. Hillary on the other hand, she has been pounded since the onset of the contest, and she is STILL slugging away. Hillary has passed the Hazing and come out with the proof that she is the on. Hillary is about the WORKING CLASS!! Hillary for President, All the WAY!!

Posted by: ThinkAboutIt | April 29, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Don't be discourage fellow Obama-supporters. Rev. Wright is a free-man able to speak his mind. He does not speak for Obama.

Rev. Wright views are his own. My views are my own. Obama views are his own. The thing that stinks about Rev. Wright's media tour is that if he had waited for at least another two weeks, Obama would have likely won both Indiana and North Carolina and the nomination would have been sealed for Obama. Then Obama and his campaign could divert full attention to McCain and any Rev. Wright issues.

Now with Rev. Wright issue likely to cost Obama an Indiana win, Hillary is even more embolden to stay in the primary process till June 3rd.

Posted by: AJ | April 29, 2008 12:12 AM | Report abuse

Why don't blacks begin to educate themselves instead of thinking of the past, like slavery!! If they spent half thier time in school and trying to make the world a better place, instead of ripping everyone apart, they might drive mercedes and live in Beverly Hills also, instead of living at the LA County Jail.

Posted by: Rich and getting richer! | April 29, 2008 12:10 AM | Report abuse

To Vergen2: Certainly I understand your (and everybody else's) animosity toward Wright. But as far as Obama's judgement goes - I think there are many assumptions being made that thoughtful people should question. Please allow me to repost something I posted earlier in this discussion forum:

I went to You-tube and decided to see for myself about these video clips. There are quite a few of the clips, and they do leave a bad impression. Wright's rhetoric is deplorable, divisive, and in some cases, downright kooky. I didn't stop after looking at 1 or 2 though. I kept going because I didn't feel like I was getting the complete picture. A little persistence paid off and I began to find that there are some other clips of Wright posted by the Trinity congregation. The Trinity congregation clips are longer.

They show a few different things:

1) They show Wright preaching more conventional Christian sermons that focus at length on positive and uplifting subjects such as the power of God's love, and they show him, not as a ranting demgogue, but as a biblical scholar.

2) They include an audio version of Wright's sermon, The Audacity to Hope, the inspiration for the title of Barack Obama's second book. Again, that sermon shows Wright as a biblical scholar and someone that preaches an uplifting message.

3) A longer version (about 10 minutes) of the sermon Wright gave 5 days after 9/11. The video includes the portion (approximately 2 minutes) that is shown in the clip coming from FOXnews as well as several minutes before and after the inflammatory comments about "America's chickens coming home to roost". In FOX's 2 minute version the viewer gets the impression that Wright was gloating over the tragedy of 9/11. If you watch the 10 minute version posted by Trinity, the viewer sees that Wright was not gloating over the attack at all - he called it a terrible tragedy and an unthinkable act. He rhetorically asked "How shall we respond" and made references to an old testament story that in some way paralleled the 9/11 attacks. The "America's chicken's are coming home to roost" soundbite was actually him quoting a former American ambassador to some country (I didn't catch which country) who was interviewed on TV just after the attacks.

4) A young preacher at Trinity (presumably the minister that took over for Wright, now that Wright is retired) spoke at length about the controversy, continuously referring to the good works the church does in the community. He talked about the work the church does to help the homeless, to minister to people suffering with drug and alcohol addiction, to minister to people with HIV/AIDS, to run a tutoring program to help kids to be successful in school and the fact that the congregation had raised over 1,000,000 dollars for a college scholarship fund.

All in all, the videos put out by FOXnews, Joe Scarborough's "Morning Joe", and others, contain clips of probably 4 sermons. There is probably a total of 5 minutes of video that forms these clips. When you click on them in succession you quickly find out that all the different clips are really just the same snippets spliced and arranged in different ways. The video clips put out by Trinity are much fewer in number, but they contain over an hour's worth of video on Wright(or audio- in the case of the the Audacity to Hope sermon).

I don't make these observations to defend Wright for saying the divisive things that he said, but to defend the judgement of Barack Obama for staying at Trinity for 23 years. As a matter of perspective - think about this: Wright has been a minister for over 30 years. He must have preached thousands of hours of sermons. Many of his sermons are sold on DVD, which is where the You-Tube video clips originate in the first place. Why is it then that we don't see any more than a total of about 5 minutes cherrypicked from 3 or 4 sermons? Obama said in his speech on race that Wright is more than the snippets running on You-Tube indicate. He said that Wright is actually a well-known biblical scholar and a courteous man to people of all races. He said that Wright converted him to Christianity and that the message he preaches is actually one of hope. While Obama stated in his speech that he was in church at times when Wright made controversial statements, and that he did often disagree with some of what Wright preached, he has also stated that he wasn't in the church at the time that the specific remarks that Wright is shown making in the FOXnews/"Morning Joe" clips. Neo-conservative columnist William Kristol tried to report that Obama actually was at Trinity church on last July 22nd during one of the sermons in question. Obama's campaign was easily able to document that Obama was going to a campaign event in Miami on that day.

So what is the real story? I confess I still don't know enough to draw any definite conclusions about what Barack Obama must have thought of his minister or even what Obama had to base his judgement on over his 23 years there, but I do believe it is plausible that the vast majority of the time that Obama attended church at Trinity, he had no cause to take major issue with what Wright preached. Considering that Obama was a community organizer when he was starting out at Trinity, the priorty placed on community outreach at Trinity must have been one of the things that attracted Obama to the church and Wright's ministry in the first place.

Barack Obama was correct to denounce Wright's inflamatory statements, but some commentators have critcized him for not going far enough and for staying at the church too long without challenging Wright on the hatred and divisiveness contained in his sermons. I say that those commentators are basing such criticism on an assumption that for over 20 years Obama was frequently hearing controversial rhetoric by Wright that rose to the level of the 5 minutes of hate-mongering comments plastered all over You-Tube. I say that it is not fair to judge Obama on that basis. Obama must not be judged according to the worst things that Jeremiah Wright has said. He should be judged on his courage, his sincerity, and the message and vision he brings to the American people.
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So as I said in the earlier post - the conclusion that Obama used bad judgement in staying at Trinity for 23 years is based on the assumption that the worst things that Wright ever said in his 30 year career are what Obama and his family constantly heard every Sunday. I believe that is far from the truth. I do believe that Wright probably said controversial things like many preachers do to get the attention of their congregation, but I doubt he made a habit of saying GD America every Sunday. Therefore, I believe it is plausible that Obama had a very different perspective on his church than those soundbites portray.

Posted by: DK | April 29, 2008 12:09 AM | Report abuse

Obama is either as arrogant as Rev. Wright or he is stupid as #@#$ for thinking that all he has to do is say: "he doesn't speak for me". Well, that's not enough "Mr. I Want To Be The Prseident". You had better take him to task IMMEDIATELY!!! Stop thinking that you are so SAINTLY and that you have America in the palm of your hand, YOU DON"T!! You are ...I guess...just another Black man who is trying to get somewhere...or am I wrong?

Posted by: Ebonyflash | April 29, 2008 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Rev. Wright has a lot of good in him but you have to question his motives. The voters in IN and NC can now clearly differentiate between Senator Obama and Rev. Wright - I believe that he will do well in both states. I have a lot of sympathy for Senator Obama - he cannot control Rev. Wright's behavior. We all have relationships with family and friends that have changed over time. The Rev. Wright that Senator Obama once knew and who inspired his life in a positive way is not the same person today. Rev. Wright probably just feel very strongly about some of his beliefs, but I believe he is a God-fearing man who wants to do good. His timing for making speeches came at a bad time for Senator Obama.

I think as people we are uncomfortable with some of the statements he is making because it has a ring of truth to it. Got to admit, the HIV/AIDS statement is outrageous though. Rev. Wright is a grown-up, well-educated and affluent man, he should take responsibility for his own behavior. But I agree with many, we should move on and look for ways to improve the lives of all Americans.


Posted by: knockknock | April 29, 2008 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Wow. Talk about a double-standard. Obama is toast! Get Obama out of there. Call all your friends in Indiana, Oregon, North Carolina, Kentucky, West Virginia, and the Dom. Republic (did I miss any?) and tell them to vote for the real candidate - that is Senator Hillary Clinton. Oh and the person with all the neocon stuff, perhaps the owner of this article should trim off the white space 'cuz they sure waste a lot of the commenting area with white space. Wow, some people just don't have a way of explaining their position I guess.

Posted by: John Sidney | April 29, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

I would hazard to guess that the Reverend Wright, aided and abetted by those who speak out in support of his views, has done more to damage race relations than even the Reverend Martin Luther King was able to promote in his lifetime.

I've consistently been a promoter and believer in racial harmony and equality.

But, Reverend Wright has consistently shown himself to be a self-serving, anti-American, bigot who cares not the least even about Obama and his Presidential aspirations nor about race relations.

I'm deeply concerned that he and his apologists represent a much larger portion of the black community than I could ever have imagined.

Have I been that wrong in hoping that we all could "just get along?"

Posted by: Bill M | April 29, 2008 12:06 AM | Report abuse

Why don't blacks begin to educate themselves instead of thinking of the past, like slavery!! If they spent half thier time in school and trying to make the world a better place, instead of ripping everyone apart, they might drive mercedes and live in Beverly Hills also, instead of living at the LA County Jail.

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:01 AM | Report abuse

Obama is either as arrogant as Rev. Wright or he is stupid as #@#$ for thinking that all he has to do is say: "he doesn't speak for me". Well, that's no enough "Mr. I Want To Be The Prseident". You had better take him to task IMMEDIATELY!!! Stop thinking that you are so SAINTLY and that you have America in yhe palm of your hand, YOU DON"T!! You are ...I guess...just another Black man who is trying to get somewhere...or am I wrong?

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Jeremiah Wright has now swayed my vote. I am NOT VOTING FOR OBAMA anymore. It is too bad since I was hoping for this day when a black man would be President.

After I heard his speech today, it was clear that he has no right to be in a church and I want nothing to do with his political views. I have never heard anyone make such direct racist remarks about people as I heard from Mr. Wright today. How can he call himself a Christain??

I am not voting for Hilary or McCain.

Posted by: Mr Wright | April 29, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

The more they rail against the rev. Wright- the more the blacks rally behind Obama....although some ( how many ? )whites may have second thoughts.....

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Obama says Wright doesn't speak for him?

What? Well how come Wright was Barack Obama's campaign spiritual advisor?

The only reason Obama ever tried to distance himself from Wright is because he got called on it.

What a flip-flopper and shammer. Also Obama doesn't have the gall to go to bat with Hillary in a Lincoln-style debate, because he probably thinks it's too risky for him to lose.

Finally, Obama plays both sides of the fence and so he doesn't have a Universal Health Care plan - this is a CORE issue of the Democratic Party and Obama's skipping over it to appeal to the affluent type.

Obama is NOT for the working class! The working class need Universal Healthcare and Gas Tax relief and Obama doesn't want to give it!!

Posted by: NoVoteForObama | April 28, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

With a name like Ellie-Go figure!!

Dumb Ellie

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Hilary is the worst thing that happened to the democratic party. When Bill Clinton ran for re-election, demcrats lost the house to republicans, they divided the country and built a heavy partisanship in a country we should be one, now they are dividing the democratic party. The Clintons are disgusting and the stuff she says about being vetted, is the biggest fallacy, republicans went after Bill and she wasn't attacked, thats why the republicans in North Carolina are helping her, because they know what they have on her

Posted by: brenda | April 28, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Ellie:

"Go find the full sermons and educate yourself."
- Anonymous Poster (2008)

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Jeremiah Wright has now swayed my vote. I am NOT VOTING FOR OBAMA anymore. It is too bad since I was hoping for this day when a black man would be President.

After I heard his speech today, it was clear that he has no right to be in a church and I want nothing to do with his political views. I have never heard anyone make such direct racist remarks about people as I heard from Mr. Wright today. How can he call himself a Christain??

I am not voting for Hilary or McCain.

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Friends for 20 years huh?

"BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER"

"A mirror reflects a man's face, but what he is really like is shown by the kind of friends he chooses."
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"Have no friends not equal to yourself."
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Posted by: Ellie | April 28, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

There is nothing wrong with saying a man's name, but that's not what most hear are doing. They are trying to make him out to be a terrorist or something because of his middle name. It's STUPID.

A racist black church? Have you seen the video of the entire sermon? Doesn't sound like it.

It bothers "middle-america" because most of us don't dig deeper and find out more about these issues! I certainly was one of the misinformed until I saw the ENTIRE sermons and heard more about the church and what it does in the community. How many of us (myself included) have done even a fraction of what Rev. Wright and the church have done to help the community. I would guess not many.

Why does it have to be black vs. white? Can't it be "Americans"?

And believe me, I am not a Hillary hater...I feel the same way about those on this board trying to bring her down with BS as well.

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To: DK--Hell no---NOT UNTIL HE THROWS REV> BIGOT UNDER THE BUS!!! Sen. Obama in slick lawyer speak said this today--"Rev. Wright does not speak for my campaign nor does he speak for me"--interesting. The question NOW IS DOES HE SPEAK TO YOU--HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO HIM??? If he were in church when you attended would you leave or would you sit and listen to his racist sermon???The mark ofa MAN is to be true to himself and those he serve"s
sen obama with his mealy mouth approach to the drivel espoused by REV. BIGOT is beneath contempt. I swithed to Sen. Clinton after the last 2 speeches by REV. BIGOT. I say let the African-American community deal with him as far as I'm concerned Rev. BIGOT is toast!!!!

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW WHY IS IT SO BAD TO SAY SOMEONES REAL NAME? THE MANS NAME IS BARACK HUSSAIN OBAMA, HE WAS RAISED A MUSLIM, THATS ALSO TRUE, HE ATTENDENA RACIST BLACK CHURCH, CANT DENY THAT, SO WHATS THE PROBLEM? THE PROBLEM IS ALL THESE THINGS ARE BOTHERSOM TO MIDDLE AMERICA, IT DOES NOT BOTHER BLACKS BECAUSE THEY WANT A BLACK PRESIDENT NO MATTER WHAT. HE BRINGS A MESSAGE OF HOPE, TO UNITE THIS COUNTRY? WELL, THERE WILL BE NO UNITY BY OFFENDING WHITE PEOPLE SAYING WE ARE FRUTRATED AND WE CLING TO GUNS AND RELIGION, THATS THE REAL OBAMA,AND HIS MESSAGE OF HOPE? LETS MAKE ALL WHITES FEEL WHAT THE BLACKS HAVE FELT, SO MAYBE WE'LL GET AFFIRMATIVE ACTION AND THE WHITE PEOPLES COLLEGE FUND. AMERICA, GOD HELP US

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse

News Flash!

"Amanda Jefferson, an African American senator from Delaware, is nominated to represent the Democratic Party this November!"

In a dimly lit back room, Howard Dean is seen having his cake, and nearly choking on it too!

Posted by: almanac kid | April 28, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

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Editor of the Weekly Standard key architech of the Iraq invasion.

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Posted by: + | April 28, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

We're all Neocons here, look at us, just reinforcing the will of the right. They must be loving us Dems for our stupidity right now.

Anyone thought of blaming Dean for this? In my mind, this man should be fired! Who would ever pit an African American male against a Caucasian female, in one of the greatest political moments of our time? What a moron, Mr Dean!

Posted by: The Light | April 28, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse


I have followed the Democratic primaries carefully since the beginning.

While I believe Obama has potential to be a great Senator and I'm sure he'll be ranked in the Forbes 400 within five years, the bottom line is that he started to run for President just months after being elected Senator.

Even without this Wright crap, I was planning on voting for Hillary because I loved her husband's presidency, believe her policies will be along the same vein, and as a New Yorker have been very impressed with her TWO TERMS of SERVICE as one of our senators.

I have several friends who love Obama and the change he represents, but even they have to admit that having his 20 year PASTOR/MENTOR come out publicly as an insane racist HIV conspiracy theorist is going to SINK HIS CANDIDACY.

Obama will become an insanely rich man, but he will never be president unless he gets some real experience and achieves something other than endless applauds at stadium rallies.

Posted by: Lue | April 28, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Bravo DK!

Excellent post.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

GO OBAMA !

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

GO OBAMA !

Posted by: 2 dk | April 28, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

hillary is ahead in popular vote, and that's a fact!

Posted by: almanac kid | April 28, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Hillary was written off, now look! If she takes Indiana, Kentucky, West Virginia, and Mr. Gray takes North Carolina, which will surely happen, then this will surely reinforce the fact that he cannot win the white working class vote, and that my friends, is when the fat lady will sing for Mr. Gray.

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

For several reasons I believe that Barack Obama is the best candidate in the Presidential race:

ï‚· Senator Obama has been in the U.S. Senate since 2004,and prior to that he served a significant time in elected office at the state level. State politics counts as valuable political experience in my book. The essential goals are the same as in national politics - to put ideas into legislative form and persuade others to back them. During his time in the Illinois State Legislature he received great reviews from both Republican and Democrat colleagues for his abilities as someone who can get legislation written and passed that no one thought had a chance. Senator Obama was good at that in Illinois, and he has been showing himself to be good at it in Washington D.C. also.

ï‚· Barack Obama has been a constitutional law professor and the president of the highly respected Harvard Law Review. His constitutional expertise was on display during the Senate debates on the issue of detainees being held at Guantanimo Bay. It was during those debates that I first heard Senator Obama on C-SPAN, and I was impressed with the arguments he put forth on the floor of the Senate.

ï‚· Senator Obama also has hands-on experience as a community organizer in Chicago, working to improve neighborhoods and the lives of the people in those neighborhoods. I have always believed that hands-on experience of that type is invaluable and that it is lacking in many of our national politicians. What I believe Senator Obama's experience gives him, is a practical working knowledge of what people really need and what they will respond to. It is important to emphasize that his experience is direct with the people and their daily needs. It does not come through the lens of a narrow special interest group agenda .

ï‚· Senator Obama has worked on two of the most momentous issues of the day in the U.S. Senate - halting nuclear proliferation and congressional ethics reform. He was instrumental in writing the ethics reform bill and shepherding it through congress to see it passed into law. He has risen to a leadership role in the Senate faster than any other Senator in my memory.

ï‚· As everyone is finding out, Barack Obama has the raw talent and charisma to inspire millions of people like no one since John F. Kennedy. He also has the experience and vision to channel that energy into an effective force pushing a program of real substantive policies that will bring relief to middle class Americans, create a more equitable economy and increase opportunity for all.

ï‚· Barack Obama offers hope plus something else. He offers a vision of all Americans coming together behind the original values that this nation was founded on. He realizes and articulates as no other candidate in this race does, that the best way to counter the suffocating dominance of the powerful special interests that have so much say in our government right now is to awaken the American people and bring them together into their own holistic, broad-based interest group that draws its power not from money to buy exposure and thereby attract votes, but through the direct wielding of their votes.

ï‚· With so much hopelessness among average people in the nation who don't believe that the politicians listen to them, Barack Obama is essentially saying: I hear you - you want to get things done. If you elect me, I will conduct the good faith negotiations necessary to get programs passed. That is why he is attracting so many independents, regardless of how supposedly liberal his policy positions are. It is a kind of populism, but it is not an angry populism. It is a practical and healing populism.

ï‚· If he succeeds, his powerful coalition of average Americans will elect those that will turn away from the narrow and uncompromising positions of the special interest groups and instead listen first to the needs of the people and be willing to smash gridlock by engaging in the compromising and negotiating needed to pass meaningful legislation that will make everyone's lives better.

ï‚· Barack Obama is not only inspirational, intelligent, and experienced, but he is cool-headed, thoughtful, and possesses great judgment and foresight. I believe if given the chance he can change the landscape of American politics like Reagan did in the eighties. We've been stuck in that landscape for close to 30 years now. I'm tired of the red state - blue state mindset. Hillary Clinton won't take us out of that mindset. All she will be able to do will be to operate within it, and no long term change will result. She and Bill Clinton are only capable of navigating in this red state - blue state environment because they don't envision anything different. That is obvious through their campaign messages and techniques. If enough of us grasp Barack Obama's vision and entrust him with our votes, he will be able to alter the entire landscape of American politics once again, this time toward a more long standing progressive agenda that emphasizes creation of opportunities for all, listening to the people and their needs instead of the special interests and their narrow positions that they have no interest in compromising on. All it takes is for enough Americans to believe it is possible and it will happen.

My head can provide all these arguments in support of Barack Obama for President of the United States of America, but I would be denying something deeper and truer if I didn't end this letter with what my heart tells me. To do that I want to discuss a piece of American lore that I have thought about from time to time, and that I believe is relevant today.

Long ago, at one of the most desperate times in our nation's history, Abraham Lincoln gave his first inaugural address to the nation. The address was an appeal to keep the Union intact. Lincoln wanted to bring the nation together, but he was unsuccessful at doing that. Within weeks of the speech, Fort Sumter, South Carolina was under siege and the civil war began. Still, the summation of Lincoln's speech has become one of the famous phrases in American history:

"The mystic chords of memory, stretching from every battlefield and patriot grave, to every living heart and hearthstone, all over this broad land, will yet swell the chorus of the Union, when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature."

That phase captures the connections between people, families and ancestors, and the history of a nation. It appeals to patriotism, family pride, home, and the stake all have in the Union. It says all that, and goes still further. It expresses those things in a spiritual sense, as if the battlefields, patriot graves, and hearthstones all across our land create a shared consciousness embedded in the psyche of all Americans, as if those mystic chords of memory resonate within and around all of us through our awareness of the ideas our nation is based on, and the laws and customs that stem from those ideas. Our perceptions of what the world should be like are strongly linked to those ideas juxtaposed with what we see all around us every day. Our actions as a people flow from those perceptions. Over the last quarter century, and especially over the last seven years, our perceptions have become jaded and it seems to many Americans that those mystic chords of memory have grown dim. The leaders of our nation have failed to maintain our connection to the great ideas that America was founded on, and we the people have neglected to hold them accountable. We now see a leader rising up that promises to change all that. I believe his experience shows that he can deliver on that promise. If we choose to follow the better angels of our nature, we will entrust him with this charge and through him we will once again touch those mystic chords of memory and swell the chorus of our great Union for all the world to hear.

It is a very rare opportunity that America has at this moment. When a leader arises with the ability to cut through all the distractions of our world to play those mystic chords of memory so that not just one or a few people, but millions of Americans can hear - when that opportunity presents itself, I believe we must reach for it with all our strength.

Don't let that opportunity pass, please put your support behind Senator Barack Obama for President of the United States of America.

Posted by: DK | April 28, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Well said John K.!

Everyone here is certainly entitled to their own opinion, but I would hope you remain open-minded about what you see and hear before believing something is absolute fact. I also hope that you would be sure to dig a little deeper than the sound bites we are all force fed by the media.

Here is a very good interview of Rev. Wright by Bill Moyers that definitely sheds a bit more light on the subject than we are given by the news folks. It certainly opened my eyes to how I can be manipulated by what TV gives me and it makes me wonder how misinformed I am on other things that I get from the media outlets.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/04252008/watch.html

I ,too, am sick and tired of the Barack Hussein Obama comments, the Neocons for HIllary comments, etc...

Come on folks! What difference does a middle name make...who cares if neocons like Hillary...what if Obama is a muslim...can't they still be a good President? Open your eyes, look around...We live in a wonderfully diverse country. Who says a President MUST be Christian? I am not electing a Pope, I'm electing a President and he/she doesn't have to look like me, sound like me, or go to the same type of religious service.

What if a candidates last name was Hitler, but he stood for everything you believed in and would be able to move our country forward. You really wouldn't vote for someone because of their last name or because they were also "liked" or supported by a group you didn't agree with??? Give me a break!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

COMPUTER WARRIORS

why is it that those who are so for this war...are never the ones fighting it?
(rather, they sit at their computers)

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

would a liberal slaughter a nazi! maybe, but if not, they would enjoy that leather Gestapo boot stuffed you know where...

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 11:21 PM | Report abuse

COMPUTER WARRIORS

why is it that those who are so for this war...are never the ones fighting it?
(rather, they sit at their computers)

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

Want to know the real Obama, Listen to this interview he did in 1995.
http://eyeonbooks.com/ibp_obama.php

Posted by: Blessed | April 28, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

please cry for me, come on baby, please cry for me....such a good little baby)

Posted by: almanac kid | April 28, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

Obama is starting to look a lot like a politician. As a person who seeks out the truth, I am disappointed that Obama is giving up on his justified, credible, and correct former pastor.

Rev. Wright's speeches are not controversial. Read the whole thing. He is not divisive. He doesn't argue for violence against anyone, he doesn't argue for hatred (like many people in this forum).

Obama, the presidency isn't worth it. Speak the truth (as you see it). If America isn't ready for unity, then so be it. But keep your integrity Senator. May God be with you.

Posted by: Chris Stewart | April 28, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

38 insurgents killed in sadr city, no american casulties....i can hear the left, crying in their milk, as we write!

Posted by: almanac kid | April 28, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

....how about god damn the neocons who got us in this war?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

GOD DAMN AMERICA, GOD DAMN THIS ELECTION, AND GOD DAMN ALL OF YOU!

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, Jeff Bingaman, for helping the nation turn the page for its better angels. Hillary Clinton, as with the Bosnia sniper fire delusion, suffers from a fantasy that she is the front-runner, and with her forever shifting goalposts, her new loony math and kitchen-sink-sewer, failed and bankrupt campaign, wants Obama to give her FREE AIR TIME to debate her for the TWENTY-SECOND time. I am a feminist older than Mrs. Clinton and as an American patriot, I need to do the right thing and tell Mrs. Clinton and sex-addicted impeached Bill, shut up already! The Clinton dynasty has been spoiling not just Obama's race in November but also the entire Democratic Party and its representatives'--congressmen, governors, district officers, mayors, etc, etc--ability to win in future elections. Bill is fighting Obama to return to the WH for a third term, and Obama has been fighting not just two Clintons (both playing every dirty card in politics) but also the GOP and the mainstream media who want to see the contest continue and their high ratings maintained. To claim Senator Obama is not electable because he is black is to say that only white Americans, like Bill and Hillary, can become President, as they have for over 200 years. No Native, Hispanic, or Asian American need apply as well. Is this what we want for our republic? Senator Obama MUST denounce and reject Hillary's shameless agenda, to gain free public airtime off his back. He MUST stop treating Hillary as an older white woman like his mother and therefore to be respected, and show her for the corrupt (25 million dollars gained from influence peddling last year alone), lying (Bosnia sniper fire), bullying (Judas name-calling), ruthless (just look at her ads), unelectable (highest negatives ever in a presidential candidate, and negatives increasing every day) small human that she is. He MUST begin to draw the contrasts in campaign tone, character, and track record on community work and protection of our constitution that show Hillary as the base fear-mongering, saber-rattling candidate that she is. Senator Obama is not a white candidate, he is not a black candidate. He is our American candidate and he will open to door for ALL of US to be equal, without having Hillary keep us down in her plantation labor quarters.

Posted by: lyn | April 28, 2008 11:15 PM | Report abuse

COME ON MARIO, SHOW US THE TAPES, BRING ON THE FOOTAGE....

HONESTLY, YOU'RE A BS ARTIST:)

Posted by: REV | April 28, 2008 11:15 PM | Report abuse

how idiotic narcissists americans are. where the f*** is freedom of speech..oh joy... america is falling man. time for china!!

Posted by: chinky | April 28, 2008 11:14 PM | Report abuse

GOD DAMN THIS ELECTION, AND GOD DAMN ALL OF YOU!

Posted by: REV | April 28, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

American Victory = Liberal Dispair!

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Imagine the despair of the liberals if we actually won this war on terror....gosh, what would they do with themselves?

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Posted by: Anton Cole | April 28, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse

The neocons support Hillary because she and her chubby pantsuited fanny will LOSE, LOSE, LOSE.

It's hilarious that John Hagee and Rod Parsley have said so many disgusting, filthy things about America and yet the media is focused ONLY on Wright.

John McCain is laughing his arse all the way to the Whitehouse.

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Some of the postings are so absurd that its amazing.

I used to be an Obama supporter because i thought he was genuine.

First blow to that was his comment about people clinging to god etc.

I think Obama is arrogant and over simplifies. He didnt solve any of my problem. I may be naive, but god solved many!!!

I would like Obama to quit the race. Because he is not what he says he is. He does not deserve to be the President of United States of America.

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

you see, lefties want the continued bloodshed of our boys and girls, so they can cut and run in iraq....so this news, of militant deaths just eats away at their very, well i can't use the word souls, because they don't have one, but they must be crying in their milk right now....it's ok, wait, i hear a burp coming.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

I would like to applaud the work done by the poster April in this comments thread. Your persistence in staying on target held the center of gravity where it belongs, in the realm of reason and discussion, rather than the realm of asseveration. So thanks for taking the time to watch an hour's worth of speech by Wright. Thanks for countering what the media has seized on (I hadn't known, I don't consume the daily media much). Thanks, actually, for contributing the energy of balance into this thread. I'm so glad there are attention spans like yours. Audaciously or not, I remain hopeful.

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

true, associated press, april 28,

"38 militants killed in sadr city clashes with American and iraqi forces"

that's definitely a bummer, if you're a liberal, hurray!

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Senator Obama cannot do anymore than he has with wright. He cannot afford for wright to get upset and pull the black votes from Senator Obama.

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William (Bill) Kristol; Editor of the Weekly Standard, key pusher for invading Iraq, talking about Hillary Clinton:


"I like to be on Hillary's side"

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

"Do you think African Americans should sing "God Damn America"?"

Anyone has the right - if you put it in context about the state of America today, it's not such a shocking statement. It doens't mean all off usBut clearly shock and outrage is part of his grandstanding sermons...

"Do you think "The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color."?"

Doubt it - but it is an interesting conspiracy theory. There are foar more outrageous ones than this, and Rev Wright didn't invent it.

"Do you think that the United States should bare responsibility for the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks?"

On this point it is rather naive to think the US doesn't bear some of the burden for provoking the incident... Because of our recent US leaders, abroad we are seen as arrogant, inconsiderate of our neighbors, and willing to use military intervention to protect selfish interests like oil, rather than investing the billions we are squandering in Iraq, in something more beneficial like alternative energy development, poverty or universal health care.

We piss alot off people - and it's not surprising some would consider an attack retaliation. I'm not unAmerican, but you have to admit under G.W. (and Bill's missed opportunity to take out opportunity beforehand), we are potentially part of the problem. Shame on us for electing leaders like G.W. Bush. But in that case - only 49% of Americans should be damned.

Regardless, Obama is open to hearing many viewpoints in an effort to find common ground and a path that is about real issues and real progress. You can't say the other candidates share this passion. They are more about preservation than progress.

Obama can bear no responsibility for the words of another person. Pastor's may endeavor to inspire churchgoers, and if you are open enough to look past the inflammatory approach, there are valid points. It seems instead, the press would rather sensationalize and overdramatize the role a reverend serves.

Side bar: What does a parent-given middle name have to do with anything? There are a few too many people living in the past who seem to have a middle name of Bigot. When will America grow up?

Posted by: DonJulio | April 28, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

38 islamic insurgents killed today in sadr city! gotta like that. any liberal want to comment here

Posted by: Anton Cole | April 28, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

"Why is it, that all these guys that are 90% white, are running around calling themselves black anyway?"


maybe it's because they live in a racist country where if you're at all black, your black

...just maybe

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

that's why we should call him,
"the most rev. White":)

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Is Rev. Wright Italian? My Uncle Louie, a Naepolitan native, looks darker than the Rev.

Why is it, that all these guys that are 90% white, are running around calling themselves black anyway? Can anyone add light to this fact?

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 10:58 PM | Report abuse

***********OBAMA HAS VOTED FOR ALL THE WAR IN IRAQ FUNDING SINCE HE'S BEEN IN THE SENATE. ALL OF IT. HE'S NOT ANTI-WAR. DON'T BE FOOLED BY THE SMOOTH TALKIN' MAN FROM THE CHICAGO POLITICAL SEWER.

**O B A M A V O T E S T O F U N D WAR

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Falwell, Robertson, Hagee, Parsley and their ilk are also indefensible. Extremists on the right AND left do not speak for me. Right wingnut radio and left wingnut radio do not speak for me.

I am a centrist. That's why I like the Clintons. They are electable. Bill and Hillary Clinton are the greatest political success story of the Democratic party since FDR and Eleanor Roosevelt. Bill's the ONLY Dem to be re-elected since FDR!

That's why Obama's attempts to denigrate a former President of his OWN party are so repulsive.

Real Dems support Hillary. That's a fact. Obama's caucus wins are meaningless a general election. All of the important primaries in the big, must win states for the Dems in a general election have been won by Hillary by big margins! Obama has won exactly NONE of the large, must win states.

The Democratic party would be wise to remember that for decades white women have been the majority voting block of the dem party and WHITE WOMEN OVERWHELMINGLY WANT HILLARY! IT'S A FACT.

Obama is unelectable.

*VOTE SMART! VOTE HILLARY CLINTON!*

Posted by: Katherine | April 28, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

I like Obama. He is the only one who seems sincere. He is the only one that will not playing the same washington games. I voted for Bush and am sorry. Hillary is just another politician, just like Mccain. I like Obama, he will really change things, and this country really needs a change!

Posted by: Mike | April 28, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Obama should have never denouced the Rev. since when knowing someone determines how you think about the world..

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton have identical voting records in the U.S. SEnate on the War in Iraq.

Not once since arriving in the U.S. Senate has Barack Obama ever spoken out on the floor of the U.S. Senate against the War in Iraq. NOT ONCE!

Not once since arriving in the U.S. Senate has Barack Obama ever introduced ANY legislation against the War in Iraq. NOT ONCE!

All hat, no cattle.

Smooth talk, no substance from Obama.

Hillary Rodham Clinton has already proven she can win big in the big, electoral rich states that are the must wins for the Dems in November. Obama outspent Hillary 4 to 1 in Ohio and Penn and yet he won only the black vote. You cannot win the Presidency without winning Ohio and Pennsylvania.

Obama is unelectable. Jeremiah Wright is the albatross around Obama's neck along with Syrian born Antoin Rezko, AUCHI, (both under criminal indictment) Wm Ayers, "pastors' Moss and Meeks, radical muslim leader Raila Odinga of Kenya, Africa (Obama's cousin??), Emil Jones, Crown, Exelon (the energy giant that is a major contributor to Obama and they wanted Obama to vote FOR the Bush/Cheney Energy Bill and Obama did vote FOR the Bush Energy Bill while our good HILLARY voted AGAINST the Bush/Cheney Energy Bill), etc.

Hillary Rodham Clinton is clearly the most qualified and most electable candidate in the race. She's already been vetted.

*VOTE SMART! VOTE HILLARY!!*

Posted by: James | April 28, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Sorry you were made that way then Katherine . Just heard Spitzer has endorsed Rambo Clinton as he identifies with Bill so much .As for Zindefensible , what about Falwell , Hagee , Robertson and the like hmmmmm ? Oh I see , they are white , that's different isn't it ? Ahhh-huh .

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama must completely disassociate from Jeremiah Wright NOW. Obama must sever all ties to the "church". Obama's new pastor "Moss" is just as bad as Wright.

There is NO defense for the indefensible. Wright is indefensible. It's a disgrace for any Democratic officials to be associating themselves in any way with Jeremiah Wright. All Dems need to condemn Wright. Black who don't agree with Wright need to condemn him.

Fools are made, not born.

**GO HILLARY!!

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 10:39 PM | Report abuse

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William (Bill) Kristol; Editor of the Weekly Standard, key pusher for invading Iraq, talking about Hillary Clinton:


"I like to be on Hillary's side"

"She is a good candidate"

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352785,00.html

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

MILLIONS OF INNOCENT LIVES HAVE BEEN MURDERED IN IRAQ DUE TO THIS UNJUST AND IMMORAL WAR. WE SHOULD ALL BE ANGRY. It was McCain and Hillary who supported the war. Rev. Wright is not the murderer, racist or torturer. Iraqi people are human. it is not about black or white. American politicians that are responsible for the war should be self-critical, not pointing fingers or moving away from people who condemn the atrocities around the world and here at home. It is the actions of GW Bush supported by mccain and Hillary that lead to the murder and rape of millions of innocent iraqi people, while others go without food, water and shelter. Babies are starving. It is good that someone speaks against this. You have the moral authority. You need not reduce yourself to Hillarys level and the racist level who are indignant about Rev. Wrights comdemnation so much so that they swear they will support mccain and the continuation of the immoral war that the world condemns, because they are indignant about the words of a black preacher, or a uppity black man. Many progressive people, white, indian, black, asian and latino respect your stand. We hold a higher moral standard of American people. Stay on the high moral ground, good people are not concerned about Rev. Wright, they are concerned about the destruction of our economy from this immoral war. btw, brookville and kokomo Indiana are Klan country. dont expect to win that state. I am glad there are many good folk there, and it is so inspiration that so many are turning out to support you and that you have a chance. With the Hillary racial baiting and the right wing offensive, it may be impossible now, but dont despair. You will do well in the remaining states.

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

The Democratic party has been foolish to allow this Obama fiasco to get this far. Obama should have been vetted from the beginning.

Obama is unelectable. His negatives are rapidly rising. Jeremiah Wright is the gift that keeps on giving, like it or not. Obama's defiant failure to completely disassociate himself from this lunatic who is a racist, anti-white, anti-semitic, anti-American, pro-Farakhaan, nation of islam supporter, who even today defiantly refuses to recant his insane comments about the "US Govt created AIDS to kill black people" and comparing U.S. Marines to the Roman legionnaires, praises Louis Farakhaan, etc.....IS A FATAL MISTAKE TO HIS CANDIDACY NOW AND IN THE FUTURE.

Obama's new "pastor" Moss is just as bad as Wright.

The unaswered questions about Obama remain. Why does Obama call Wright his "mentor"?? Why did Obama choose THIS "church" in the first place?? Why does Obama continue to attend this "church"? Why does Obama subject his own two children to this hateful, self-fullfilling prophecy of hate??

It calls into very serious question the lack of character and poor judgment of Barack Obama. It's most certainly not Presidential, or Vice Presidential or U.S. Senatorial. Chicago is a toxic sewer politically and Obama swims in it.

As for the Barack Hussein Obama references, it IS his name, get over it. It's certainly not going away and will be used against him.

**VOTE SMART!! VOTE PATRIOTIC! VOTE HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT!!**

MAY GOD BLESS AMERICA!! NEVER, EVER GOD DA-- AMERICA AS OBAMA'S 'MENTOR' 'PASTOR' JEREMIAH WRIGHT SHOUTS!

COUNTRY FIRST, PARTY SECOND. IF THE DEMS FOOLISHLY NOMINATE AN UNELECTABLE OBAME, VOTE FOR MCCAIN!!

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

I went to You-tube and decided to see for myself about these video clips. There are quite a few of the clips, and they do leave a bad impression. Wright's rhetoric is deplorable, divisive, and in some cases, downright kooky. I didn't stop after looking at 1 or 2 though. I kept going because I didn't feel like I was getting the complete picture. A little persistence paid off and I began to find that there are some other clips of Wright posted by the Trinity congregation. The Trinity congregation clips are longer.

They show a few different things:

1) They show Wright preaching more conventional Christian sermons that focus at length on positive and uplifting subjects such as the power of God's love, and they show him, not as a ranting demgogue, but as a biblical scholar.

2) They include an audio version of Wright's sermon, The Audacity to Hope, the inspiration for the title of Barack Obama's second book. Again, that sermon shows Wright as a biblical scholar and someone that preaches an uplifting message.

3) A longer version (about 10 minutes) of the sermon Wright gave 5 days after 9/11. The video includes the portion (approximately 2 minutes) that is shown in the clip coming from FOXnews as well as several minutes before and after the inflammatory comments about "America's chickens coming home to roost". In FOX's 2 minute version the viewer gets the impression that Wright was gloating over the tragedy of 9/11. If you watch the 10 minute version posted by Trinity, the viewer sees that Wright was not gloating over the attack at all - he called it a terrible tragedy and an unthinkable act. He rhetorically asked "How shall we respond" and made references to an old testament story that in some way paralleled the 9/11 attacks. The "America's chicken's are coming home to roost" soundbite was actually him quoting a former American ambassador to some country (I didn't catch which country) who was interviewed on TV just after the attacks.

4) A young preacher at Trinity (presumably the minister that took over for Wright, now that Wright is retired) spoke at length about the controversy, continuously referring to the good works the church does in the community. He talked about the work the church does to help the homeless, to minister to people suffering with drug and alcohol addiction, to minister to people with HIV/AIDS, to run a tutoring program to help kids to be successful in school and the fact that the congregation had raised over 1,000,000 dollars for a college scholarship fund.

All in all, the videos put out by FOXnews, Joe Scarborough's "Morning Joe", and others, contain clips of probably 4 sermons. There is probably a total of 5 minutes of video that forms these clips. When you click on them in succession you quickly find out that all the different clips are really just the same snippets spliced and arranged in different ways. The video clips put out by Trinity are much fewer in number, but they contain over an hour's worth of video on Wright(or audio- in the case of the the Audacity to Hope sermon).

I don't make these observations to defend Wright for saying the divisive things that he said, but to defend the judgement of Barack Obama for staying at Trinity for 23 years. As a matter of perspective - think about this: Wright has been a minister for over 30 years. He must have preached thousands of hours of sermons. Many of his sermons are sold on DVD, which is where the You-Tube video clips originate in the first place. Why is it then that we don't see any more than a total of about 5 minutes cherrypicked from 3 or 4 sermons? Obama said in his speech on race that Wright is more than the snippets running on You-Tube indicate. He said that Wright is actually a well-known biblical scholar and a courteous man to people of all races. He said that Wright converted him to Christianity and that the message he preaches is actually one of hope. While Obama stated in his speech that he was in church at times when Wright made controversial statements, and that he did often disagree with some of what Wright preached, he has also stated that he wasn't in the church at the time that the specific remarks that Wright is shown making in the FOXnews/"Morning Joe" clips. Neo-conservative columnist William Kristol tried to report that Obama actually was at Trinity church on last July 22nd during one of the sermons in question. Obama's campaign was easily able to document that Obama was going to a campaign event in Miami on that day.

So what is the real story? I confess I still don't know enough to draw any definite conclusions about what Barack Obama must have thought of his minister or even what Obama had to base his judgement on over his 23 years there, but I do believe it is plausible that the vast majority of the time that Obama attended church at Trinity, he had no cause to take major issue with what Wright preached. Considering that Obama was a community organizer when he was starting out at Trinity, the priorty placed on community outreach at Trinity must have been one of the things that attracted Obama to the church and Wright's ministry in the first place.

Barack Obama was correct to denounce Wright's inflamatory statements, but some commentators have critcized him for not going far enough and for staying at the church too long without challenging Wright on the hatred and divisiveness contained in his sermons. I say that those commentators are basing such criticism on an assumption that for over 20 years Obama was frequently hearing controversial rhetoric by Wright that rose to the level of the 5 minutes of hate-mongering comments plastered all over You-Tube. I say that it is not fair to judge Obama on that basis. Obama must not be judged according to the worst things that Jeremiah Wright has said. He should be judged on his courage, his sincerity, and the message and vision he brings to the American people.

Posted by: DK | April 28, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Yes why do the Republicans blog and vote for Clinton hmmmmm ? I wonder how much Wright is making from his appearances ? Out of principle Obama refuses to give the media what it wants , that is to disown or trash Wright but the Rev Wright throws Obama under the bus , now that's a true man O God for you isn't it ? Right .In any case this is getting old . Hope most have enough sense to know and understand Obama and Wright are not one and the same but two different people . I wouldn't vote for Wright that's for sure , but I will vote for Obama .

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Here we go again, you can't be saying his middle name! Well his name is Barack Hussein Obama isn't it? I will call it the way I see it! Obama can not now say that he did not know how Rev. Wright felt about The United States and the government. He had to know that Rev. Wright was anti-America. Says God's name in vain! We here in North Carolina can do better than electing Obama to be our leader. Vote Hillary or McCain but not Obama!

Posted by: goodtimepolitics | April 28, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

The same stupid strategists that cost Hillary the nomination (blowing what was a huge lead and advantage of every type) are the same ones now telling her to rip the democratic party apart and to call people who support obama traitors to the clintons.

Hillary needs to ditch those losers before she runs again. Life expectancies are much longer now (and women's life expectanciesa re longer for women than for men)...

I would vote against Chelsea's future potential run if Hillary tries to shred the democratic party in half...

Posted by: eljefejesus | April 28, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

And how 'bout that Rezko mansion...Obama' HOME fergodssakes!?? How do those Obamalovers stay in denial? What kinda drugs are they on?

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Obama 'money man' bailed out by 'Israel apartheid' activist
Claimed in church newsletter Jews building 'ethnic bomb' that 'kills blacks, Arabs'

JERUSALEM - Indicted Illinois businessman Antoin "Tony" Rezko, a key fundraiser for Sen. Barack Obama, was bailed from jail last week in part with surety posted by a pro-Palestinian activist who penned an open letter in Obama's church newsletter that labeled Israel an "apartheid" regime and claimed the Jewish state worked on an "ethnic bomb" that kills "blacks and Arabs."

The open letter by Ali Baghdadi, who served as a Middle East advisor to the Nation of Islam, landed Obama's Trinity United Church of Christ in hot water last month amid multiple other reports of controversial pieces published on the official "Pastor's Page" reserved for Obama spiritual adviser Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.

Baghdadi was listed among about 30 family members and friends of Rezko who reportedly put up cash or offered properties as surety to secure Rezko's $8.5 million bail. Baghdadi offered the court a two-story retail property in Chicago.
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Posted by: Typical White Person | April 28, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 10:28 PM | Report abuse

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William (Bill) Kristol; Editor of the Weekly Standard, key pusher for invading Iraq, talking about Hillary Clinton:


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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Since when has ANYONE walked out of a chruch when someone sais something that is offesive or inflamatory? Even if you didn't go back, you never got up and left. it's easy to judge someone else hypothetically. it is easy to be a back seat driver. What about when your pastors said " that all gays are going to hell"? what about when he talks about adultry and you clap in support of what he is saying, mean while, your cheating on your wife or husband and so is your pastor. Did you walk out then? Did you walk out when he mentions drugs but you smoked a joint before you went to church? You ignored what he said because he wasn't talking to you. Anybody would be a BETTER president than that clown that is in there now...

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Yall shut up and vote for OBAMA

he is the ONE

Posted by: jay | April 28, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

The only reason there is still an attachment between Obama and Wright is because the media just won't let it go. Obama has done everything he can do to explain things and Wright is independently doing his own thing.

I will say that I want whatever Rev. Wright had for breakfast this morning...

Back to the point: The world is watching, watching us look like fools. Can we please get back to real issues like war and recession?

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Many of Obama's "negatives," of course, are self-inflicted, such as his comments on "bitter" rural folk. And his past associations may yet erode his message of hope and change. But he's been relatively restrained in "going negative" compared with Clinton's recent barrage.

Is Barack Obama a uniter or divider?

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Posted by: Frank, Austin TX | April 28, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

MOMMY....Can I have my cake....and eat it too??

So, I publicize my deep spiritual relationship with Reverend Wright when people suspect me of being Muslim....but then fervently distance myself from him when Rev Wright turns out to be a rabid fundamentalist.

So, I pray with the Reverend in my basement with my family but publicly denounce his views and ideaology....(BTW I think that Wright speaks a lot of truth...if only he didn't come across as so bitter and clownish, he actually would be worth listening to)

So, I run a campaign of Hope and Change and then get peevish if people ask me exactly how I hope to bring about change.

So, I claim that I will rise above partisan politcis in Washington reaching out across the aisle, but can't defend the fact that I have the most liberal and partisan record in the Senate and I could possible never convince anyone across the aisle...(dude, you can't claim to be ABOVE washington politics and claim that you're the ONLY one who can bring these Washington Politicians together - what a joke).

So, I get my name off the ballot in Michigan to garner approval with voters in Iowa and New Hampshire but then cry foul if Michigan voters want to be part of a very close Primary.

So, I talk loftily to SF liberals about blue collar America and their addictions...but then get annoyed when I'm asked why I'm not getting through to blue collar Americans.


So, I talk about being dilligent and hardworking and giving it all I've got til the very end and then claim fatigue and boredom with the long drawn Democratic Primary (Why doesn't she just give it to me already??)


There's a stench of "OMFG just who the heck is this Frontrunner of ours??" in the Democratic party. And now we're stuck with the stench!

Posted by: Devin | April 28, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

I do not understand how, Obama can outright say that these "outrageous anti-America" statements made by his former pastor do not reflect his ideals but at the same time the ideals that McCain outright states to be his own are completely outrageous (Iraq, Economy, Foreign Affairs) and yet the media says nothing of those ideals being so distant from those of the American People.

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

RE: "He will lose Indiana, barely win NC, lose Kentucky and West Virginia badly, probably tie in the western states, or lose, and then get swamped in Puerto Rico"

if all the above happens, he'll still have won more delegates. Obama's won.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Isn't it getting interesting?

Rev. Wright is not on the ballot, but what does it say about Sen. Obama's judgment, that he sat in close counsel with this man for 20 years ??

I thought Barrack was supposed to have great judgment ? Really ??

Or maybe the Senator and the Reverend share more of these world views than have been admitted. They certainly share large competing egos.

In any event, Obama is toast. He will lose Indiana, barely win NC, lose Kentucky and West Virginia badly, probably tie in the western states, or lose, and then get swamped in Puerto Rico.

Hillary will be our next President !

Posted by: truthtime | April 28, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

this is what I want to hear from obama.. focus on the issues, show us you have a solution and don't be afraid to distance yourself from petty politics and something you don't believe in - most folks on the fence will appreciate this as well!

Posted by: anon | April 28, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Obama must come clean ASAP. Admit mistakes, admit his past, and beat McCain to the outrage punch. He made a good effort on that with today's remarks.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | April 28, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

I thank you all for your continued support. Thank you Barack

Posted by: Barack | April 28, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

I think it should be taken into account that, although the Rev. is a man of God, he seems to have taken Obama's disassociation with him quiet personally and has definitely not "turned the other cheek." Rather, it seems that the Wright has turned on Barrack and is feeding off of this media frenzy to hurt our next president's chances of turning this election into a landslide, as it should be.

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Obama is saying the same things he said before --this is about American people. He has not changed! The dynamics of the race have.. which is you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. AMERICA...do you have the guts to stand up and be heard? WAKE UP.

Posted by: heidi | April 28, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Let's pray that we all continue to pull together as human beings, to love and guide our children, and to be good stewards to this beautiful earth. Rev. Wright is filled with a kind of hate that I don't understand. He ought not to be in church the way Bill Ayers ought not to be in the classroom. But that's what makes America the greatest place in the world. Hillary '08

Posted by: Longhorn Mama | April 28, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

NEOCONS FOR CLINTON:

William (Bill) Kristol; Editor of the Weekly Standard, key pusher for invading Iraq, talking about Hillary Clinton:


"I like to be on Hillary's side"

"She is a good candidate"

"I am with her. I am with her"
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352785,00.html

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

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Bill Kristol, Charles Krauthammer, Rush Limbaugh, Pat Buchanan,
Joe Lieberman, Rubert Murdoch, Dick Cheney, Carl Rove.......

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Meanwhile, Democrats are registering in record numbers and the Republican Party is stuck in the mud of its own making...

Something's happening, and you don't quite know what it is, do you, Mr. McCain?

Posted by: Reverend Rock | April 28, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Obama is so wise and mature in this way of responding to both the pastor and the attack campaigning.

If he violates his own message and meaning just to duke it out with the Clinton machine, he would not be the inspiration and ignition that is his major gift.

Doesn't matter if he wins it or loses it as long he remains true to this gift.

Posted by: Gaias Child | April 28, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

THE NEW NAZIS

switch the words Jew for Muslim...and see how it reads: example:

"JUST REMEMBER THIS THAT WHEN THE MUSLIM

TAKES OFFICE HE IS NO LONGER GUIDED..."

becomes

"JUST REMEMBER THIS THAT WHEN THE JEW

TAKES OFFICE HE IS NO LONGER GUIDED..."

it's the same nazi philosophy: only the religion has been changed...other than that...it's exactly the same

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Obama on Rev. Wright: "He Does Not Speak for Me"

What? Your mentor and spiritual advisor doesn't speak for you Mr. Obama?
Just exactly what role does a mentor and spiritual advisor play in your life then?

You Mr. Obama are stradeling both sides of the fence. You say what you expect your constituents want to hear.
Whichever way the wind blows eh Mr. Obama?

Posted by: Thozmaniac | April 28, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

All I have heard today is speculation about whether Rev. Wright is hurting Obama. The people I've heard in the media are saying Rev. Wright should remain invisible throughout the campaign and that Obama should try to find a way to reel him in.

I'm a committed Obama supporter and I say noway. Why should Rev. Wright crawl under a rock because Obama is running for Office? Rev Wright feels that he has done nothing wrong and I agree with him. Those who want to use his connection to Obama as a reason to not vote for Obama, will not vote for Obama no matter what.

A large part of the media wants to make Rev Wright a controversy for ratings sake.

Obama, like the rest of us just needs to keep his eye on the prize.

Posted by: James of Indiana | April 28, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama is the person who is running for office. Not Rev. Wright, not Bill Ayers. Hillary Clinton is running for office - not the Weathermen or FALN terorists her husband pardoned.

Let's discuss where the candidates stand on the issues.

Obama - voted against the war
Clinton - voted for it

Obama wants to use diplomacy in the middle East

Clinton just threatened to nuke Iran

This concerns me more than who people knew or didn't know - whose church they go to.

Posted by: Denise Oliver-Velez | April 28, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

When you hear/watch Mr.Wrights entire speech, i realize this man speaks the truth. And the truth isn't what many in this country wants to hear. Instead they confusing it and use it as a media weapon against the pastor and unfortunately, Obama. Bet Hillary couldn't have gotten a better paid advertisment huh? Many people in this country would rather hold on to illusions,force fed by the government/usa media, rather than face the truth. You need only throw a stone in your neighbors yard to know, if you continue to do that, in time, your neighbor will retaliate. The USA has been sleeping with the terrorists. In fact, they are themselves, on numerous occassions and far too many ways to mention here, have acted as 'the' terrorists. To have this pointed out, as Mr. Wright has done, is something many people don't want to hear. He's far more intelligent and articulate at getting to the soul of this countries dis-ease than 99% of news media/commentaries on-air. With such an articulate perspective, don't you think it would give us all a moment to pause and consider that what he says is true? Perhaps he's opened the minds and eyes of some Americans ready to hear the truth. This is what Europeans and South Americans have been talking about for years. But Bush is more invested, as most faith based people are, to wearing blinders.

Posted by: David | April 28, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

WHO CARES!!!! I would never vote for someone who vilifies men or someone who wants me to vote for him because he's new or someone who wants me to vote for him because he would bomb Iran --- who is going to address the rampant crystal meth addiction in our small towns? who is going to stand up to credit card companies for bleeding consumers with inhumane interest rates? who is going to ensure that our food/water supply and infrastructure are at the forefront of our domestic policy? NOT THESE IDOITS!!!

Posted by: Melissa | April 28, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

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NEOCONS FOR CLINTON:

William (Bill) Kristol; Editor of the Weekly Standard, key pusher for invading Iraq, talking about Hillary Clinton:


"I like to be on Hillary's side"

"She is a good candidate"

"I am with her. I am with her"
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352785,00.html

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

JUST REMEMBER THIS THAT WHEN THE MUSLIM TAKES OFFICE HE IS NO LONGER GUIDED ON HIS ON BUT BY THE KORAN, AND THE MUSLIM LEADERS WILL HAVE THE STAGE THEN...SO GET READY FOR THE SHOW...


THIS IS WAY IT IS
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Posted by: TOLDUSO | April 28, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

America is in 2 wars

an economic depression (let's call it as it is)

America now uses torture and secret prisons

poised to start another war (Iran)

and we're supposed to vote according to someone's ex-pastor

go figure

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

I prefer to think along the lines of Bill Cosby...it has to do with being accountable for your own actions, your own destiny & to your children. Whether you are white, black, purple or green, if you live the the USA, you're very fortunate - you have opportunities unavailable to a majority of the human race, if you don't take advantage of them, you have only yourself to blame. Thank you very much.

Posted by: Thinker | April 28, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

MY FELLOW "BITTER", STUPID, WORKING CLASS PEOPLE :-)

If you think like Barack Obama, that WORKING CLASS PEOPLE are just a bunch of "BITTER"!, STUPID, PEASANTS, Cash COWS!, and CANNON FODDER. :-(

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary's than they had ever been before or since.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton. :-)

Best regards

jacksmith... Working Class :-)

p.s. You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you don't know that the huge amounts of money funding the Obama campaign to try and defeat Hillary Clinton is coming in from the insurance, and medical industry, that has been ripping you off, and killing you and your children. And denying you, and your loved ones the life saving medical care you needed. All just so they can make more huge immoral profits for them-selves off of your suffering...

You see, back in 1993 Hillary Clinton had the audacity, and nerve to try and get quality, affordable universal health care for everyone to prevent the suffering and needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of you each year. :-)

Approx. 100,000 of you die each year from medical accidents from a rush to profit by the insurance, and medical industry. Another 120,000 of you die each year from treatable illness that people in other developed countries don't die from. And I could go on, and on...

OBAMA AIDE: "WORKING-CLASS VOTERS NOT KEY FOR DEMOCRATS" :o

DEBATE! DEBATE!! DEBATE!!!...

Posted by: jacksmith | April 28, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

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of course, lost in all this media-hype

is the fact

.......that no one

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.................the pastor !!!

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Posted by: !!! | April 28, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Yes dave.....Let's Think.

Do you think African Americans should sing "God Damn America"?

Do you think "The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color."?

Do you think that the United States should bare responsibility for the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks?

Personally I don't, but Obama's loony pastor does.

Senator Obama spent two decades of Sundays, with his family, sitting in a pew in front of this tired old racist, allowing his wife and children to listen to his misguided vitriolic nonsense and had no problem with it. That says alot to me about his character.

Then, when confronted by audio of the Rev's racist rhetoric, he throws him immediately under the bus. This too is very telling.

All the time that the good Senator continued to ramble about "hope and unity" and told us "words matter" he was listening to the racially divisive rants of a looney Reverend!!

He now claims..."Did I strongly disagree with many of his political views? Absolutely - just as I'm sure many of you have heard remarks from your pastors, priests, or rabbis with which you strongly disagreed."

Well Senator, I can honestly say that if any "man of God" on the pulpit of my church started spouting racially charged horsecrap that was diametrically opposed to my belief system, I'd be brave enough to give him a piece of my mind , THEN leave the church - never to return. Fundamental beliefs don't take a 20-year vacation!! You're either a coward or a liar - and quite frankly, this country needs neither.

Yep Dave...that's what I think, maybe when you grow up, you'll think this way too.

Posted by: Tim_CA | April 28, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Glad - and amused - to see that Obama is taking Karl Rove's advice and trying to step farther away from Wright. The problem is that Wright is a loose cannon right now and you can bet that Obama's staff wants to stifle him. My guess is they asked him to keep his head down until after the PA primary and now he's blabbing away.

Also love how Obama is taking a page from HRC's playbook with the 'this is about you' thing. It'll be interesting to see if people fall for the latest message/image since we all now picture him sitting in his ivory tower eating arugula. "Fool me once, shame on you....."

He is one slick politician!

Posted by: Marty | April 28, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse


In my view Rev Wright is NOT hurting Obama by speaking publicly. Wright had no choice but to defend himself thanks to corporate media stoking the fire over the last several weeks. Staying underground proved to help Clinton as we saw in PA. The corporate media played a two part attack on Obama. One being the obvious Obama - Rev Wright association and the other being that Obama 'as a newcomer to the Senate' is not as well known as Clinton and needs to be fully disclosed to Americans. Wright is basically stomping on the fire by allowing all Americans a personal view into his life while diffusing the issue from the Republicans in the general election. Wright is also becoming human for all those who choose not to see him as human (Invisible Man, Ellison). At the same time Wright is providing full disclosure on his thoughts and ideas for everyone to exploit. In fact, corporate media will have to rewrite the headlines and spin it in a new direction (for better or worse).

Posted by: Matt | April 28, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Dream on DCDave...

The only people who care about Rev. Wright are the rival campaigns, the political pundits, and the media. Why?! Because most of those folks could care less about gasoline costing $4 per gallon or the need for affordable health care.

People like Sean Hannity, Anderson Cooper, Bill O'Reilly, Charlie Gibson, and others make millions of dollars per year.

For example, Sean Hannity makes about $8 million dollars per year (between television and radio). Hell, Rush Limbaugh made about $30 million last year. Bill O'Reilly earned $12 million last year.

It is not in their interest to discuss important issues that average Americans care about. TV and Radio show ratings determine future pay for those in the industry, so riding the primary election coat-tails of the candidates is in the networks best interest.

Posted by: AJ | April 28, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

It's certainly easier to edit my reading of these posts. Whenever I see one with a reference to "Barack Hussein" in it, you can rest assured it is posted by a fascist idiot. Easy to press the "skip" button. it would be nice if we could have a somewhat civil discourse, but the Republicans, mainstream drama queen media and certain zeolots in the Clinton camp seem to love the feel and smell of the cesspool.

Posted by: tdub | April 28, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

I hope some of you rabid posters on this blog will just take a moment to take a deep beath and THINK.....Read the preceeding and just THINK for once in your lives.

Posted by: dave | April 28, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Letter of the day: Clinton, her pastor disagree about Wright

Hillary Clinton attends the Foundry United Methodist Church in Washington. So does Bill Clinton. Hillary suggests she would not have the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Barack Obama's controversial former minister, as her pastor.

But the senior pastor of her church has a very different take on how Americans should react to Wright. The Rev. Dean Snyder wrote, "The Rev. Jeremiah Wright is an outstanding church leader whom I have heard speak a number of times. He has served for decades as a profound voice for justice and inclusion in our society. He has been a vocal critic of the racism, sexism, and homophobia which still tarnish the American dream.

"To evaluate his dynamic ministry on the basis of two or three sound bites does a grave injustice to Dr. Wright, the members of his congregation, and the African-American church, which has been the spiritual refuge of a people that has suffered from discrimination, disadvantage, and violence. Dr. Wright, a member of an integrated denomination, has been an agent of racial reconciliation while proclaiming perceptions and truths uncomfortable for some white people to hear.

"Those of us who are white Americans would do well to listen carefully to Dr. Wright rather than to use a few of his quotes to polarize. This is a critical time in America's history as we seek to repent of our racism. No matter which candidates prevail, let us use this time to listen again to one another and not to distort one another's truth. "

JACK BEAIRD, GOLDEN VALLEY


Posted by: dave | April 28, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Does anybody ever ask who benefits from this?

Don't you think that just maybe somebody gave the Reverend a lot of money for these mean remarks that he knows will be harmful to Obama?
Would not put this past Slick " BHillary"

Posted by: slafontant@gmail.com | April 28, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Yep there he goes again,pathological liar
Barack Hussein Obama lying to us all again,
and this time its about his 20year long
personal relationship with crazy black racist good old "Uncle" Rev Jerimiah Wright
after,has also by Obama own admission,also
been Barack Hussein Obama Spiritual Mentor
for over 20 years. So Stop Lying Obama!
Your Run For President Is Over Obama!
Obama is toast so stick a fork in him.
Just Say NO Obama in 2008 folks!

Posted by: Sherry Kay | April 28, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Mel, I am with you in your opinion of Rat, but these forums are very poorly policed. There have been alot of way out of bounds accusations on both sides. Don't let it get in your way, some of the people here are actually worth talking to.

Posted by: DCDave | April 28, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Nobody suggests that Rev Wright speaks for Obama. This is a diversion.

The suggestion is that Obama's 20-year membership in Wright's church reflects badly on Obama.

Posted by: HuckFinn | April 28, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Obama is making a big mistake here, his supporters let him off the hook and believed he never 'heard' Wright say any of these comments. Then he backed off of that and said he had heard that Rev. Wright had said them, but that he wasn't actually present. Now he is saying again that he didn't know anything about them until a couple of weeks ago.

Here is a bet for the people here:

In the next week Rev. Wright lists times and dates where Obama heard his inflammatory speech's and didn't argue, didn't stop going to church, didn't disagree, etc.....

Wright is going to say Barak is crazy, I remember this time over at so and so's house we were talking about blah blah blah and I said blah blah blah, and Bark said blah blah blah.....

This is turning into such a messy divorce that I almost feel bad for Obama.

Posted by: DCDave | April 28, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse


I am appalled by the posting by RAT and certainly the name is representative of the kinds of views expressed. 1. I believe that the person's decision to focus on Senator Obama's middle name (and leave off his last name) is indicative of the kind of racism s/he espouses. This person is undoubtedly a racist and an Islamophobic. S/he makes s scurrilous link between three unrelated things: (i) Senator Barack Obama and his views, but in a way that suggests stereotype and ignorance rather than knowledge and wisdom; (ii) The RAT then goes on to draw outrageous links to individuals who have absolutely nothing to do with Senator Obama. However, like Senator McCain, this person is a small-minded thinker who wants to engage in sloppy reasoning (in fact none at all) in order to say guilty by (his/her) association. Finally, the person's contribution says a lot about them; the absolute inability to make a respectful argument without resorting to childish and churlish sentiments (e.g. Obamalots). To quote the man who has more dignity, integrity, wisdom and statemanship in his little finger compared to the poster -- Senator Obama notes: "It is possible to disagree without being disagreeable". That is the kind of leadership needed.

RAT does the views he represents and her/his political affiliation a disservice by showing how ignorant and prejuice s/he is. Ignorance is not bliss.

Posted by: Mel | April 28, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

He may not speak for you but he spoke to you for 20 years and you listened!

Posted by: Bob Applegate | April 28, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Folks, Barack Hussein was a Cosmopolitan Hawaii raised Dude, who changed his Muslim Faith for a Racist, Anti-American, Segregated, Church that espouses the same rhetoric al-Sadr and al-Nasrallah Rant. His Cleric that allowed him to do this Politically expedient thing is building a Ten Million Dollar Mansion off the Deducted receipts his "Followers" threw away to him.

The whole thing stinks to high Heaven!

STOP, trying to "Colorize" it as anything even remotely justifiable or acceptable.

You will NEVER persuade Obamabots to think, and you will never convince me Obama is anything but very bad news.

Give it a Rest! He is a Sure and Certain Loser in November, and because all the garbage came out after he gained his Lead the Dimocrats are Stuck with him! :-(

Let's get focused on Issues so McCain is FORCED to get Smart, and get Romney on Board to prove it! ;~)

Posted by: RAT-The | April 28, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

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