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Obama Strikes Back, Denouncing Wright


Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama had some tough words for his former pastor in Winston-Salem, N.C., a week before the state's May 6 primary. (Associated Press)

Updated 4:25 p.m.
By Peter Slevin
WINSTON-SALEM, N.C. -- Sen. Barack Obama today strongly criticized the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, his former pastor, saying that Wright's comments about the United States in recent days have been "destructive" and "outrageous."

Using his sharpest language yet to describe a series of Wright performances that he said left him angry and sad, Obama accused Wright of exploiting racial divisions at the same time the Illinois senator is aiming to bring the nation together.

"When I say I find these comments appalling, I mean it," Obama told reporters in firm and somber tones. "It contradicts everything that I'm about and who I am. And anybody who has worked with me, who knows my life, who has read my books, who has seen what this campaign is about I think will understand that it is completely opposed to what I stand for and where I want to take this country."

VIDEO | Sen. Barack Obama is offering his strongest denouncement of the comments made by his former pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Obama says he is outraged by Wright's comments and saddened by the spectacle. (AP Video)
Obama, calling reporters together for the second time in 24 hours to address an issue that threatens to weaken his campaign, said he decided to speak out after watching videotape of Wright's theatrical performance on Monday at the National Press Club, where he attacked the U.S. government and Obama alike. Wright "caricatured himself," Obama said. "I have spent my entire adult life trying to bridge the gap between different kinds of people. That's in my DNA, trying to promote mutual understanding," Obama said. "To insist that we all share common hopes and common dreams as Americans and as human beings. That's who I am. That's what I believe. That's what this campaign has been about." "Yesterday, we saw a very different vision of America," Obama went on. "I am outraged by the comments that were made and saddened over the spectacle that we saw yesterday."

Obama said he had not spoken in several weeks with Wright, who retired earlier this year as pastor of Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ and a mainstream congregation thousands strong. Wright performed Obama's marriage, baptized his two daughters and inspired the title of his latest book, "The Audacity of Hope."

"There has been great damage," Obama said. "I do not see the relationship being the same after this."

Wright's strongly worded sermons were little known in political circles before Obama ran for president. He first drew attention on the day in February 2007 when Obama announced his candidacy because the candidate disinvited him from delivering a benediction, saying later that he did not want Wright to suffer the inevitable media attention.

The minister became a serious problem only after Obama had become the Democratic front-runner. In the weeks before the April 22 Pennsylvania primary, news outlets broadcast excerpts from fiery Wright sermons that critics charged were anti-American and racist.

Obama said he had not heard the most dramatic sermons. He denounced some of Wright's most inflammatory remarks and followed up with an ambitious speech on race relations in Philadelphia, where he also sought to put Wright's views and comments in perspective. Obama said he was giving Wright, who had prayed with him and inspired him, the benefit of the doubt.

In the weeks that followed, Wright said little. But he surfaced very publicly late last week, explaining himself in a lengthy PBS interview and declaiming boldly in a NAACP speech in Detroit on Sunday and a press conference at the National Press Club on Monday morning.

Obama told reporters after a Winston-Salem rally that he was troubled by many aspects of Wright's recent performances, including his decision "to command the stage for three or four consecutive days in the midst of this major debate" about such issues as health care, education, energy, economic policy and the war on terrorism.

"After seeing Rev. Wright's performance, I felt there was a complete disregard for what the American people are going through and the need for them to rally together to solve these problems," Obama said. "It now is the time for us not to get distracted."

"What mattered to him," Obama said, "was him commanding center stage."

Obama, who met Wright almost 20 years ago and joined Trinity United in 1992, disputed assertions that Wright was his "spiritual mentor." He described Wright as his pastor and a man "who provided valuable contributions to our family." He said the Wright who spoke to the press club "is not the person I knew for 20 years."

"When he states and then amplifies such ridiculous propositions as the U.S. government somehow being involved in AIDS; when he suggests Minister Farrakhan somehow represents one of the greatest voices of the 20th and 21st centuries; when he equates the United States's wartime efforts with terrorism; there are no excuses. They offend me. They rightly offend all Americans."

He also said Wright's comments "were not only divisive and destructive, but I believe they also end up giving comfort to those who prey on hate, and I believe they do not portray accurately the perspective of the black church."

Obama said he was "particularly angered" by Wright's allegation that the candidate was engaging in political posturing when he denounced the minister's earlier remarks.

"If Rev. Wright considers that political posturing, then he doesn't know me very well," Obama said. "Based on his comments yesterday, well, I may not know him as well as I thought, either."

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Posted by: MUGAMBO | May 3, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

It doesn't matter how you slice it up, carve it, dice it, scattered, smothered, stirred, whipped, played back for 4 years or more, whatever, having Pastor Wright as your mentor and hero says you have a severe character flaw.

Barack Obama basically proved this himself after he threw Pastor Wright under the bus, backed-up, then ran him over thrice more the other day. And for what? Oh yeah, something about "same old politics" comes to mind. What a joke.

Why are we wasting our precious time with this inadequate candidate? Let's talk about having a Universal Healthcare program instead. Let's erase the health insurance industry(and make sure the working class insurance people get a different job of course). Let's erase the "pre-existing condition" limitation, and the cut-throat, profit-from-the-dying tactics of our broken Healthcare system.

Barack's promises may appeal to the ear, but where are the documented details of this great shaboozle of a firing-squad method he intends to use to erase our American government? Scary.

No thanks Obama

Posted by: Caught On Tape | May 3, 2008 2:05 AM | Report abuse

SO, let me get this straight.

Obama won't engage in a debate with Clinton under any circumstances because they tend to take focus off of the issues and only address non-essential topics like his prior associations.

But, Obama calling together the press for a second time to rehash this issue about Wright is not doing exactly what he claims Clinton is doing to him?

The only person not letting the Wright issue die is Obama. He can't explain it away - there are no words that can explain his staying a part of this anti-American clergy.

Be sure to tell us when he calls a press conference that hasn't got anything to do with Wright or is aimed at tearing McCain or Clinton a new butt.

Hopefully, the press will start trying to get him to actually say what he is going to do to make this such a wonderful country. So far, I've got:
a) optional healthcare coverage [already exists]
b) pulling the troops out of Iraq [if his military agrees]
c) raising social security taxes on the middleclass [to pay off unrelated government debt]
d) raising capital gains taxes on the investors [pay off more unrelated government debt]
e) creating new jobs [where? doing what? paid for by whom?]
f) willing to meet with and become the patsy of any terrorist group or country in order to promote peace
That about covers it or have I missed something? Sounds to me like more of the same old politics

Posted by: glosski | May 2, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a cunning and terrifyingly dangerous politician.

Barack says he won't throw his pastor under the bus like he did his grandmother, and then he did.

Barack says he's against the war but NEVER ACTUALLY VOTED AGAINST IT because he wasn't in office then. And then he VOTED YES TO FUND THE WAR.

Barack says he won't wear "that pin" on his clothing but then he is trying to say that he stands for it (when really he wants to switch it to something else).

Barack says he wants to be the #1 patriot in America and yet when the National Anthem is played, he doesn't put his hand on his heart(as if the song doesn't apply to him) - must be because it is the song of the "old ways" of America(which he wishes to destroy), the ways that hundreds of thousands have died for along the way.

Barack boils up some cursing and completely politically-reactive racial speech, tries to make us all feel deficient, says Don Imus should be burned at the stake and flushed in a toilet, and then turns around and says "Race is not a problem in America"(because that would trick people into thinking he doesn't hate).

Barack says he's a uniter but then devotes 20 years of his life to his "Mentor" and "Role Model" that has burned the very hate of America into his heart - see this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI77cU3jsFs ( also see more great stuff at: thatsmeontheleft.blogspot.com )

Barack says all people should count and "yes we can" but then he purposely, and cold-bloodedly stone-walls any chance of allowing 2+ MILLION voters in Florida and Michigan have their vote count.

Barack says he's about "helping the working class live better lives" and then he turns around and slanders us not only by calling us "bitter" and "clinging to guns and religion", but also forgoes offering a Universal Healthcare Plan(which is a core democratic value) - this is only so he can play both sides of the poor/rich fence, but in the end he leans more towards the former(with his ridiculous idea to raise capital gains taxes).

Barack says he has all these ideas for how he's going to throw our government out of their offices onto the street but there's no detailed information available for people to weigh his intentions with common sense.

Everything is about timing for Mr. Barack Obama, he plays "old style" politics better than a symphonic orchestra, he'll switch from one major idea and then to the reverse like a windsock in an open field.

How long will it be before Barack throws the "American People"(as if we're somebody else) under the bus, and then back up for another go.

Think long and hard, this man is playing the emotion card on America, and he intends to rip our heart out with it to pay back for his Pastor's pain of yesteryear.

If you vote for Barack Obama, you will experience change alright, and it will hurt, badly. If you vote for Barack Obama, you are voting for the Apocalypse of America.

Posted by: The Stark Truth | May 2, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

The Rev Wright is entitled to his words- I don't care what his thoughts or beliefsare, I'M NOT VOTING FOR WRIGHT, I AM gonna vote for Obama.
I changed my party last Tuesday- I see where the GOP has gone- this IS NOT the party of Lincoln nor Eisenhower- IT IS THE PARTY OF NIXON AND GW BUSH, DICK CHENEY & CAP WEINBERGER. With RR's economics and Nixons character- this administration is absolute dog crap.And where did they take us? to the cleaners. I've had it with them, and I don't think HC would make a good President- she would be functional, but we have a chance to have a really outstanding, great President like we haven't had since Teddy Roosevelt.

Posted by: ajsmith | May 2, 2008 2:24 AM | Report abuse

This is typical of Washington Post. The paper has a habit posting false headlines with no relationship to the story...this is pre-meditate. Folks ought not to believe stuff published the Post.

Posted by: K1231 | May 2, 2008 2:17 AM | Report abuse

What exactly are Wright's recent comments that Obama finds appalling?

Posted by: Kevin1231 | May 2, 2008 2:14 AM | Report abuse

You can see this in New Orleans before Katrina. The only city that I have been in where cars on blocks stayed on the Interstate for months, and were never moved. A third world city, where you want to visit once but can't wait to get out of.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Yep, in my opinion, we are the way down.

I think that too many parents said: "my kids will not have to go through what I did" to the detriment of the kids. They were indulged, till it got to the point where they not only expect to start at the top, you can't even discipline them anymore.

I'm sort of glad that I won't be around to see the USA as a third world country, but it is fast coming.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse


"We didn't know what pot was, everyone was patriotic" etc

and

"if teen-agers and young 20s had to go through what we did in the "great depression" and the war, they would be rioting in the streets!! "

Most people today haven't "had to hoe corn" as it were. I didn't have a cola drink until the age of 13. 50 years ago people worked hard, sacrificed, were patriotic, and pulled together, and were proud of doing a good job. These traits built a great country and better times for all, but unfortunately the ensuing indulgance has led to people being complacent and in way too many cases disrespectful. Today many brag about what they "got away with" on the job. I can't even be sure I get a good hamburger anymore. Sometimes they thank me when I purchase something.

What's the answer? Sorry, but in my opinion the standard of living will gradually go down until we are as "hungry" as the less fortunate nations. That's assuming the Chinese, Arabs, and others don't decide to cash in their dollar holdings all at once, in which case the process will not be gradual.

Posted by: Billw | May 1, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

From today's news:

DNC chairman under Bill Clinton: Unite behind Obama

By NEDRA PICKLER - 1 hour ago

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A leader of the Democratic Party under Bill Clinton switched his allegiance to Barack Obama on Thursday and urged fellow Democrats to end the bruising nomination fight.

"This has got to come to an end," former Democratic National Committee Chairman Joe Andrew told reporters in his hometown of Indianapolis just days before Tuesday's crucial state primary. He said he planned to call all the other superdelegates he knows and encourage them to back Obama.

Bill Clinton appointed Andrew chairman of the DNC in 1999, and he led the party through the disputed 2000 presidential race before stepping down in 2001. Andrew endorsed Hillary Rodham Clinton last year on the day she declared her candidacy for the White House."

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Billw, I sound like the old: "we walked to school 5 miles in the snow"!" Nope, it hardly ever snowed here.

BUT, if teen-agers and young 20s had to go through what we did in the "great depression" and the war, they would be rioting in the streets!! I'm serious.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

"America will never be the great country is was 50 or so years ago."

When I graduated from high school. The last of the innocents. We didn't know what pot was, everyone was patriotic, very few boys had cars, very little TV ( I didn't see on till I was 17), we were coming off the big war where everyone was used to rationing, and everyone pulled together.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Billw, you and I are closer than I thought.

I fully agree.

Personally, I think Thompson was the best candidate. But who knows??)

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

"A good third party canditate would be a shoo in. Just who would that be, though?"

Good question. Maybe Newt, Liberman. Maybe Thompson, had he stuck with it and been more forceful in his views. Problem is the country is in such a mess, a man in his "right senses" likely wouldn't want to inherit the problems. America will never be the great country is was 50 or so years ago. Too many politicians have sold it out for personal gain, and too many company leaders have done the same by going overseas to have their products made. Also
Abraham Lincoln's true statement "to win the election, impress the ignorant" has taken it's toll. Too bad.


Posted by: Billw | May 1, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Billw, you are so right there. I am not a fan of any of them. I just live close to the original Clinton hang-out and am close to some that know them, and I could not vote for him or her.

A good third party canditate would be a shoo in. Just who would that be, though?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

"In your opinion only."

Birds of a feather stick together.

Posted by: Billw | May 1, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

"Put Hillary's name where you have Obamas and Bill Clinton where you have Wright, and it works both ways. She stayed with Bill Cinton since 1975, a lot longer than the 20 years in the Wright church."

Doesn't matter anyway, McCain will be President. I'd just like to have seen a more level playing field between Clinton and Obama.

Posted by: Billw | May 1, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

"His true intent is therefore very questionable."


In your opinion only. Do not attempt to speak for the rest of us.
You know what the Clintons are, so why anyone would support them is beyond me. Yep, the morals of the US went away about the 60s.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Obama showed his true alegiance to Wright for 20 years, which means he approved of Wrights views. He now "denounces" him when he is forced to. His true intent is therefore very questionable.

Posted by: Billw | May 1, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

News from 1 hour ago:


"Obama endorsed by an Indiana super delegate Joe Andrew

Joe Andrew, who formerly had endorsed Hillary Clinton, switches to Obama, saying the Illinois senator has a willingness to do 'the right thing.'

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

And Obama was not married to Rev. Wright.
Hmmm??

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

"Had Obamas close relationship with shady characters and the hate-filled racist Wright been known at the outset, he would have been out of the race months ago."

Put Hillary's name where you have Obamas and Bill Clinton where you have Wright, and it works both ways. She stayed with Bill Cinton since 1975, a lot longer than the 20 years in the Wright church.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse


OBAMA AND HIS CAKE

Obama's figured that black democrats would support him out of racial loyalty, and a lot of whites would do the same in order to not be accused of being racial. This put him ahead, but has now backfired due to his close association to reverend Wright and Wright's character being exposed. Can't have your cake and eat it too. Regarding the media, they went with the "Obama phenomena" as it made sensational news, upped their viewer ratings, and made them money. This created bias toward Obama, got him free advertising of the best kind, and put him ahead. Now the hot news getting viewer attention is Wright, so the media has gone with him and has damaged Obama, likely beyond repair. Again you can't have your cake and eat it too. Had Obamas close relationship with shady characters and the hate-filled racist Wright been known at the outset, he would have been out of the race months ago.

Posted by: Billw | May 1, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

JakeD, your rabid support of the Clintons, no matter what, is showing your personality.
Please get some help.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

""RECORDS SET
The Clintons

- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court""

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

"P.S. re: Clinton(s) trial -- World Net Daily is not a reliable source -- BILL Clinton's motion to dismiss was granted, so the trial is proceeding against her only."

So?? Your proof please, not according to the Los Angeles Superior Court.

The proof against Hillary Clinton is there and the California Supreme Court upheld re-opening the case because of that. Sorry.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

dems rule:

How many of those new registrations were people who are going to vote for McCain in November? Have you considered that Operation CHAOS is artificially inflating the numbers?

delegate math man:

Keep in mind those numbers go up if Florida and/or Michigan are counted. Also, nothing prevents the super delegates "announced" for Barack HUSSEIN Obama to retract tomorrow, if they wanted to, and all announce for Hillary DIANE Clinton.

P.S. re: Clinton(s) trial -- World Net Daily is not a reliable source -- BILL Clinton's motion to dismiss was granted, so the trial is proceeding against her only.

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

With Bush HITTING NEW PUPLIC OPINION LOWS

and DEMS at HIGHEST REGISTRATION NUMBER AND PERCENTAGE Since the ice age when John McCain was born

MARCH STATISTICS
43% Dem
32% GOP

and WE DON"T EVEN HAVE THE NEW VOTERS COUNTED

GO OBAMA GO DEMS

Posted by: dems rule | April 30, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Reverse Countdown TO VICTORY
BiG Day for SUPerS

293 to 2024 Delegates to Victory OBAMA -2
429 to 2024 Delegates Clinton -3
________________________________
408 Elected Delegates left in ten contests
289 Supers Uncomitted Remaining
------------------------------------
697 Delegates Unpledged / Uncomitted Remaining

Go OBAMA

Posted by: delegate math | April 30, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Look, Wright will not fight back, at least not materially.
This whole thing looks too much like a set up: Wright made bad comments. Obama originally tried to denounce only his comments but not him as a person. This proved to be not enough, and Obama must denounce the person. But without any new update, it would be strange or damaging for Obama to change his stance. Therefore, Wright cooperated by giving one more bad speech, an opportunity Obama can seize to change his stance.
As much as it sounds like a conspiracy theory, this type of game has been played thousands of years ago in China. Good players don't even need to plan for it - they could do it tacitly.
I would admit my suspicion is wrong if Wright fights back forcefully (not just verbally, which I won't be surprised if he does, but forcefully with potentially damaging information, as he should have plenty over so many years). Somehow, though, I don't believe this will happen. It's just a setup, old fashioned, plain and boring. Will people get fooled? I don't know. But certainly not me...

Posted by: lm | April 30, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

"Jimmy Carter Endorses Obama ( Sort of)

MAKE of this what you will:

Former President of the United States, Jimmy Carter has hinted that he might cast his vote for Senator Barack Obama to aid his emergence as the candidate for the Democrats in America's bid to elect a new President.""

Hint, hint

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

"also, James EARL Carter did not endorse Barack HUSSEIN Obama -- he is, officially, uncommitted."

Officially, He praised Obama and practically downed Clinton with his remarks. What more do you want?? Give it up, Hillary Clinton will not be the nominee.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

WND Exclusive ELECTION 2008
Clintons to face fraud trial
Judge setting date, testimony to include ex-president, senator


© 2008 WorldNetDaily


While Hillary Clinton battles Barack Obama on the campaign trail, a judge in Los Angeles is quietly preparing to set a trial date in a $17 million fraud suit that aims to expose an alleged culture of widespread corruption by the Clintons and the Democratic Party.

At the conclusion of a hearing tomorrow morning before California Superior Court Judge Aurelio N. Munoz, lawyers for Hollywood mogul Peter F. Paul will begin seeking sworn testimony from all three Clintons - Bill, Hillary and Chelsea - along with top Democratic Party leaders...

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

That should be case number BC304174

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

The facts are hard to ignore, aren't they.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

"As someone already pointed out, William JEFFERSON Clinton is not on trial --

No, Bill and Hillary Clinton are on trial:

Go to www.lasuperiorcourt.org. Look under civil column, click on civil summaries, search under case number BC30417

Hmmm. Looks like it say William Jefferson Clinton and Hillary Rodham Clinton to me. Read it and weep:


Case Summary


Please make a note of the Case Number.


Case Number: BC304174
PETER F PAUL VS WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON

Filing Date: 10/14/2003
Case Type: Fraud (no contract) (General Jurisdiction)
Status: Pending

Future Hearings

05/13/2008 at 08:37 am in department 47 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
OSC RE: CONTEMPT

08/08/2008 at 08:31 am in department 47 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Further Status Conference

Documents Filed | Proceeding Information

Parties

CLINTON HILLARY RODHAM - Defendant/Respondent

CLINTON WILLIAM JEFFERSON - Defendant/Respondent

D. COLETTE WILSON ATTORNEY AT LAW - Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

DOYEN MICHAEL R. - Attorney for Defendant/Respondent

HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON FOR U.S. SENATE - Defendant/Respondent

KREEP GARY G. - Former Attorney for Pltf/Petn

LEVIN JAMES - Defendant/Respondent

MACHTINGER LEONARD A. - Attorney for Defendant/Respondent

NORMAN JAN B. - Associated Counsel

NORRIS STERLING E. ESQ. - Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

PAUL PETER F. - Plaintiff/Petitioner

ROSEN DAVID - Defendant/Respondent

SMITH GARY - Defendant/Respondent

TONKEN AARON - Defendant/Respondent

WILLAMS & CONNOLLY - Attorney for Defendant/Respondent

Google "clinton fraud trial" some old, some new. New evidence lead to trial being re-newed. Sorry.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

show = shoe

Posted by: JakeD | April 30, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

James (I assume NOT Carter):

Just wait until the other show drops -- hopefully, Rev. Wright fires back and tells us something really juicy about "The One" he's counseled, in private, for lo' these many, many years.

Posted by: JakeD | April 30, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

As someone already pointed out, William JEFFERSON Clinton is not on trial -- also, James EARL Carter did not endorse Barack HUSSEIN Obama -- he is, officially, uncommitted.

Posted by: JakeD | April 30, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous said: From the Houston Chronicle:
Rev. Jeremiah Wright - Hillary Supporter?

Well, could you blame him. He was thrown under the bus by Obama for the sake of Obama's political ambitions. Wright knows the nature of their relationship; he knows that Obama is quite familiar his preaching style and his opinions. He is probably very disappointed in Obama for not standing up and admitting that he knew what his church was about, and he stayed there because he agreed with Wright. Instead, Obama attacks his "uncle" in an attempt to fool the American public before the upcoming primaries. Heck, if someone did that to me, I'd cross over and support the more admirable opponent, too.

Posted by: James | April 30, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Hillary and Bill Clinton on trial for fraud in Los Angeles, civil court case #BC304174


Jimmy Carter endorses Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

From the Houston Chronicle:


Rev. Jeremiah Wright - Hillary Supporter?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

In response to Sycamore, VA....it took Hillary 61 years to find her voice...what's the problem? 20 vs 61??????

Posted by: AlesterP | April 30, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

In response to Sycamore, VA....it took Hillary 61 years to find her voice...what the problem?

Posted by: AlesterP | April 30, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Hmmmm. From the news:

Reverend Wright spoke at the National Press club recently in order to defend his record and apparently the African American church. Barack Obama has had a hard time since his pastor has come into the limelight due to the explosive nature of some of the preachers comments. Regardless as to the appropriateness of what Wright said and how he said it, Barack's bid for the presidency has been hampered by his statements. Strangely, the platform from which the pastor spoke on yesterday was made available to him by a CLINTON SUPPORTER."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

If we have learned anything from Obama during the last year or so the guy has a reactive Personality at best.

We want a leader in the White House and not somebody who cannot make a decision of who to be associated for 20 years, and now that his poll numbers were lagging, reacted to it when it was convenient to do so.

Poor PASTOR WRIGHT...

Posted by: Sycamore, VA | April 30, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

IMHO, Obama should have left Wright's church before he started his campaign for the presidency.

Barring that, he should have left after the clips from Wright's sermons were revealed. What did he do? He made a very nice speech about race relations in the US, but he took no action.

"Now, following Wright's press conference, Obama claims that he's "outraged" and "saddened," but again has taken no positive action to distance himself from Wright and his church."

Look how much we have learned from listening to Jeremiah Wright in a few hours that we've seen him. If it takes 20 years for Barack to recognize what kind of individual and pastor he really is, then what is he doing running for President.

Also to assume that the American people is this dumb to believe him that he didn't know or hear all these remarks before he ran for the Presidency is beyond belief.

Does he go to Church just to sleep or what?

I think this is now a battle of EGO between him and his pastor. I heard mentioned of ME, ME, ME on his press conference.

America WAKE UP for it can take another 20 years before he recognize that we have REAL Problems in the Country.

What a FLAWED candidate this guy is.


Posted by: Sycamore, VA | April 30, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous: Give it up. You called me a racist, and are now unable to quote any racist statement made by me. Let's move on.

Posted by: James | April 30, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Quote: "I didn't think you could come up with anything. Your apology is hereby accepted."

As the exit polls say, another under educated Clinton supporter.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Quoting the news on Jimmy Carter"

"His mother, whom he adored, would "be delighted I think at the prospect of a black man being elected president". In an aside that will give scant comfort to Mrs Clinton, he added: "And she would be pleased - I wouldn't say delighted - at the prospect of a woman being president."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

I didn't think you could come up with anything. Your apology is hereby accepted.

Posted by: James | April 30, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

James, speak for yourself. No apology is forthcoming or due. Read your own posts or someone else is posting using your ID.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous: Please post any of my comments which you consider to be racist. If you cannot, please consider your apology to be accepted in advance. Thank you.

Posted by: James | April 30, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

"Anonymous: Many people may not go to church, but they do care if we have a racist President. That is going to cause severe problems for Obama.


LOL,this from the poster who has made the most racist statement on this thread. LOL

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

It sure got quiet around here. Hillary and Bill Clinton on trial for fraud in Los Angeles, civil court case #BC304174 and Jimmy Carter endorses Obama. Hmmmm?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous: Many people may not go to church, but they do care if we have a racist President. That is going to cause severe problems for Obama.

Posted by: James | April 30, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

"A Nobel Peace Prize winner who abhors the policies of President George W. Bush, Mr Carter added: "A lot of them see Obama as kind of a diametrical opposite from George W. Bush and they think that he will bring to the presidency a brand new picture of what the White House and Washington and the United States ought to be."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

I laugh at all the people with the conspiracy theory that Wright and Obama planned this whole thing! Can you tell me what the reason would be? Do you think he thought it would be good for his
campaign? Why not say that Hillary paid Wright

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

James, give it up. A large percentage of the population of the US does not go to "church" or believe in organized religion any longer. Look it up.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

This is not about Wright. It is about the character and judgment of someone who would join a racist black liberation theology church; stay for 20 years; formulate a close relationship with the racist and anti-American pastor; try to conceal this from the public by continually saying that he is a "Christian;" and then expect us to forget about those 20 years, merely because he himself is finally "outraged." Wright preaches black liberation theology. Here are a few statements from James Cone, a founder of black liberation theology, about Obama's religion:

(1) To be Christian is to be one of those whom God has chosen. God has chosen black people. (2) While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism. (3) Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.

Posted by: James | April 30, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

'The former president, who travels the globe dealing with the conflict resolution and human rights issues promoted by his Carter Centre, told this newspaper that "overseas there is an intense infatuation with Obama, perhaps more than there ever has been in previous history with any candidate".

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

From today's news:

Jimmy Carter praises Obama

"Coming from the most distinguished of some 300 uncommitted "super-delegates" - the Democratic party leaders who will crown their party's nominee - Mr Carter's new public stance is a blow to Hillary Clinton's chances of winning the White House."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Obama can transform America's image, says Jimmy Carter

By Toby Harnden in Washington
Last Updated: 11:59AM BST 30/04/2008

"Former President Jimmy Carter has given Barack Obama a major boost by calling for the bitter Democratic nomination battle to end on June 3rd and speaking glowingly of his ability to "transform the image" of America."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Whatever you wish to believe. Nevertheless, he is not on trial for fraud. Hillary Clinton is.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

THE DANGER OF COLLECTIVE WISHFUL THINKING: I believe many have a desire for that Knight in Shinning Armor to come forward and solve all of our political ills. Many Americans believe they have found that person in Barack Obama. Obama, who professes to be a "different" kind of politician who represents "change" and "unity," has been very effective in playing to this "collective wishful thinking." Obama, however, knows that he is not that Knight. He knows that he has been a conventional and ruthless politician from the start. He knows that he obtained his first elective office by stabbing his friend and mentor, Alice Palmer, in the back. He knows that despite his assertions, he has obtained over $62,000,000 from special interest groups during this campaign by a method developed by George Bush and Karl Rove. He knows that despite his glowing rhetoric about unity, he chose to belong to a racist black liberation theology church for 20 years, and considered its racist and anti-American pastor as his "mentor and spiritual adviser." He knows that it is he who has played the race card over and over, in order to destroy the legacy of Bill Clinton, and blunt his effectiveness as an advocate for Hillary Clinton. And, he knows that this most recent "denunciation" of Wright only occurred because Wright told the truth; that Obama is a "politician" and will say whatever he needs to say to get elected. Yes, he knows all of these things, and so do millions of Americans throughout this country. Yet, millions of his supporters have allowed their "wishful thinking" to cloud their ability to digest any information not consistent with their image of Obama; this image that has been so carefully constructed by Obama, himself. This will account for the intellectual agility which will be required of them to change from an apologist for Rev. Wright one day, to a supporter of Obama's denunciation of Wright, the next day. In the 1930's, another people believed that they had found their "Knight" who would save them from the effects of a humiliating defeat in World War I. They, too, believed that their leader was almost infallible. They, too, hung on every word he said, and refused to believe any warnings from "outsiders" about the true nature of their leader's beliefs and actions. And even after a devastating defeat in World War II, millions of them still would not - could not believe that their leader was anything other than what he himself said he was, because to believe this would somehow not only invalidate their leader, but it would invalidate themselves. Were these people unsophisticated, stupid people? Absolutely, not. They inhabited one of the most advanced countries of its time. No, their deficiency lied in their inability to process information inconsistent with their beliefs. Their weakness was placing their "wishes" over their objectivity. All along the way, there were signs that their leader was not who he professed to be. However, their belief that they had found their "Knight" resisted any and all such signs, and enable a charismatic and hateful man to lead their country into hell. Objectivity has been defined as "the ability to perceive or describe something without being influenced by personal emotions or prejudices." Objectivity will help assure that in this nomination process, each candidate is viewed as they really are; not as they have told us they are, or how we wish they were.

Posted by: James | April 30, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

A person (as yet unnamed):

Hopefully you are the same "person" who I asked several questions of at 7:55 PM yesterday. If you are, I am glad you found the time to post (and, hopefully, you find the time to actually answer my questions too).

First, I agree with you that 99% of the American population does not know that Hussein means "handsome" in Arabic. They probably do think of the Butcher of Baghdad, which is why I am trying to educate the (voting) American population of such little-known facts. That is the only reason I capitalize it to emphasize it. I certainly cannot answer for other posters.

Second, I do know what the Tuskegee experiments were. There is NO SIMILAR EVIDENCE that the United States government was conducting another experiment as to HIV/AIDS. In fact, every scholarly account as to the origin and spread of that disease debunks such a "preposterous" theory.

Perhaps you missed Senator Barack HUSSEIN Obama (D-IL) specifically denouncing such "preposterous" theory? As you said: "Research next time you jump to conclusions."

Posted by: JakeD | April 30, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Obama can transform America's image, says Jimmy Carter

By Toby Harnden in Washington
Last Updated: 11:59AM BST 30/04/2008

"Former President Jimmy Carter has given Barack Obama a major boost by calling for the bitter Democratic nomination battle to end on June 3rd and speaking glowingly of his ability to "transform the image" of America."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA: DIRTY POLITICIAN FROM THE START: Chicago Sun-Times--A close examination of Obama's first campaign clouds the image he has cultivated throughout his political career: Obama, who runs on a message of giving a voice to the voiceless, first entered public office not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it. Alice Palmer, friend and mentor to Obama, served the district in the Illinois Senate for much of the 1990s. Decades earlier, she was a community organizer in the area when Obama was growing up in Hawaii. She risked her safe seat to run for Congress and touted Obama as a suitable successor. But when Palmer lost the congressional race, her supporters asked Obama to fold his campaign so she could easily retain her state Senate seat. Obama not only refused to step aside for the woman who was his friend and had recommended him for the seat, he filed challenges that nullified Palmer's hastily gathered nominating petitions, forcing her to withdraw. Had Palmer survived the petition challenge, Obama would have faced the daunting task of taking on an incumbent senator. "He wondered if we should knock everybody off the ballot. How would that look?" said Ronald Davis, the paid Obama campaign consultant whom Obama referred to as his "guru of petitions." Davis filed objections to all four of Obama's Democratic rivals at the candidate's behest. All other candidates were disposed of by Obama's challenges. He then went on to win the election.

http://tinyurl.com/2zwwte

Posted by: James | April 30, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse


Hillary Clinton and "The Largest Election Law Fraud in History"

"Hillary Clinton's campaign appears to be in possible legal jeopardy with the introduction of a "smoking gun" video in a court case that has somehow escaped the attention of the mainstream media.

Investor's Business Daily explains that the "scandal involves allegations by movie producer Peter Paul that a 2000 senatorial fundraiser for Clinton in Hollywood violated campaign laws. Paul claims he spent $2 million to produce the fundraising event -- a de facto campaign expenditure. Under campaign law then in effect, campaign gifts were limited to $2,000."

John Armor, Election Law Expert at Equal Justice Foundation, says Hillary is involved in the "largest election law fraud in US history."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

LA Superior Court Civil Summary
Case Summary

Case Number: BC304174
PETER F PAUL VS WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON

Filing Date: 10/14/2003
Case Type: Fraud (no contract) (General Jurisdiction)
Status: Pending

Future Hearings

05/13/2008 at 08:37 am in department 47 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
OSC RE: CONTEMPT

08/08/2008 at 08:31 am in department 47 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Further Status Conference

Documents Filed | Proceeding Information

Parties

CLINTON HILLARY RODHAM - Defendant/Respondent

CLINTON WILLIAM JEFFERSON - Defendant/Respondent

D. COLETTE WILSON ATTORNEY AT LAW - Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

DOYEN MICHAEL R. - Attorney for Defendant/Respondent

HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON FOR U.S. SENATE - Defendant/Respondent

KREEP GARY G. - Former Attorney for Pltf/Petn

LEVIN JAMES - Defendant/Respondent

MACHTINGER LEONARD A. - Attorney for Defendant/Respondent

NORMAN JAN B. - Associated Counsel

NORRIS STERLING E. ESQ. - Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

PAUL PETER F. - Plaintiff/Petitioner

ROSEN DAVID - Defendant/Respondent

SMITH GARY - Defendant/Respondent

TONKEN AARON - Defendant/Respondent

WILLAMS & CONNOLLY - Attorney for Defendant/Respondent

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

www.lasuperiorcourt.org

Click on case summaries in civil column,

Search for case number BC304174.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton was impeached for lying under oath. Hillary is a proven habitual liar and now they are on trial for fraud in Los Angeles. Case number BC304174.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

WHAT A SAD SPECTACLE. For weeks now, Obama supporters, political pundits, talk show hosts, and even "The View" panel members have been defending Rev. Wright; defending the statements of Rev. Wright; saying that they were taken out of context; even saying that they were true; all in order to defend their candidate, Barack Obama. And now, with one fell swoop, Obama himself has taken the rug out from underneath all of these supporters and de-legitimized their arguments by saying that he himself, is "outraged" by the statements of Rev. Wright, and that he no longer wishes to have any relationship with him. Interestingly, the things said by Rev. Wright in his recent public appearances and interviews were pretty much what we all know he has said before. The only thing materially different was when Rev. Wright twice stated that Obama says what he has to say, because he is a politician. So, what is the lesson of this sad spectacle? Three things. Firstly, it is that Rev. Wright can say anything he wants about "white people" and America, no matter how disgusting or untrue, but if he dares "diss" Obama personally, then Obama is finally "OUTRAGED." Secondly, it has shown the extent to which some Obama supporters and apologists will go to justify and rationalize any action on the part of Obama or one of his advisers, even to the extent of sanctioning racist and anti-American hate speech, in order to defend Obama and promote his campaign. Finally, it has shown once again that Obama will do anything, and jettison anyone, in his quest for power and the Presidency. The "denunciation" of Wright by Obama is self-serving damage control, and nothing more. The actions by some of his supporters in trying to defend the indefensible, represent a shameful combination of political expediency, lack of objectivity, and hypocrisy.

Posted by: James | April 30, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Well done. Even your President would be proud of you. After all, he screwed that line, Big Time, on Prime Time TV.


Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

Posted by: justadad55 | April 30, 2008 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Hey, all you white kids still drinking Obama's koolaid:

did you see Al Sharpton also denounced Obama for grandstanding for white folks?

lol! Looks like the real black leaders are not fooled by the fraud.

Posted by: Zee | April 30, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

I had a friend who worked for Nightline and got to meet and hang around with tons of leading political figures. She told me never to vote based on who I 'liked' or 'disliked' because candidates' personas are so carefully managed, handled, etc. Every single look, word, facial tic, gesture has been planned out by somebody else and designed to manipulate your emotions. If you 'like' a candidate, it's because the handlers got it right. If you don't 'like' them, you're probably not in the demographic being wooed.

She said she never saw an exception to this, and that *all* policiticans--those who seem smart and those who don't, those who seem "wonky" and those who seem "folksy"--*all* politicians are products developed by teams of people out to win over certain audiences. You can't say whether you 'like' them or 'hate' them. You don't know them.

So, you can't vote on your emotions, because they're being manipulated and aren't reliable. You have to go on what the candidates have actually done in office. Not what they say they will do or would have done, but what they actually have done. This is tough for Democrats because we've put forward two candidates with very little experience in that sense. Obama is young and inexperienced and Hillary's experience is mostly in a private, unofficial capacity. Almost her entire "experience" has been filtered through Bill, and despite her saying she was deeply involved in governing, there's no evidence of that.

I personally voted for Obama because Hillary voted for the War. With that vote, Congress abrogated their Constitutional authority and wrote President Bush a blank check, and look what he did with it. That vote was a disaster for our country, and I felt that way at the time. I looked up the names of everyone who voted for it, so that I would be able to hold them accountable in the future. It is true that Obama's stated opposition to the War wasn't tested through a vote. If his opponent had been a sitting senator who voted *against* the War, I'd likely be voting for them. But Hillary was tested, and she failed.

There are other reasons to vote for her or for him, I'm sure. But come on, people, read and reason. Don't go with your emotions. They aren't reliable in this kind of situation.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Shame on you, Barack Obama! Pandering to white nationalist, imperialist mythology and betraying this prophetic truth-teller Rev. Wright. For thirty pieces of silver! "For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?" (Mark 8:36)

Posted by: Brian | April 30, 2008 9:40 AM | Report abuse

With the way politics and the media are today, what with every little aspect of each candidate being scrutinized day after day for several months, I'm actually impressed that this is the worst they can dig up on Senator Obama. The worst scandal to hit his campaign isn't even about things the candidate has said or done, but things somebody he knows has said or done. And John McCain has the same potential problem with Hagee. If this is the best they can hit Obama with, I think he'll be fine.

Posted by: jbdsm | April 30, 2008 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Talk about chickens coming home to roost!

Obama has been playing the race card since b/f South Carolina.

Obama is getting just a bit more than he wanted.

It's that simple.

Posted by: Lesley | April 30, 2008 7:49 AM | Report abuse

4.30. 2008 NEW YORK
Fareed Zakaria
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McCain's Radical Foreign Policy
Amid the din of the dueling Democrats, people seem to have forgotten about that other guy in the presidential race-you know, John McCain. McCain is said to be benefiting from this politically because his rivals are tearing each other apart. In fact, few people are paying much attention to what the Republican nominee is saying, or subjecting it to any serious scrutiny.

On March 26, McCain gave a speech on foreign policy in Los Angeles that was billed as his most comprehensive statement on the subject. It contained within it the most radical idea put forward by a major candidate for the presidency in 25 years. Yet almost no one noticed.

In his speech McCain proposed that the United States expel Russia from the G8, the group of advanced industrial countries. Moscow was included in this body in the 1990s to recognize and reward it for peacefully ending the cold war on Western terms, dismantling the Soviet empire and withdrawing from large chunks of the old Russian Empire as well. McCain also proposed that the United States should expand the G8 by taking in India and Brazil-but pointedly excluded China from the councils of power.

We have spent months debating Barack Obama's suggestion that he might, under some circumstances, meet with Iranians and Venezuelans. It is a sign of what is wrong with the foreign-policy debate that this idea is treated as a revolution in U.S. policy while McCain's proposal has barely registered. What McCain has announced is momentous-that the United States should adopt a policy of active exclusion and hostility toward two major global powers. It would reverse a decades-old bipartisan American policy of integrating these two countries into the global order, a policy that began under Richard Nixon (with Beijing) and continued under Ronald Reagan (with Moscow). It is a policy that would alienate many countries in Europe and Asia who would see it as an attempt by Washington to begin a new cold war.

I write this with sadness because I greatly admire John McCain, a man of intelligence, honor and enormous personal and political courage. I also agree with much of what else he said in that speech in Los Angeles. But in recent years, McCain has turned into a foreign-policy schizophrenic, alternating between neoconservative posturing and realist common sense. His speech reads like it was written by two very different people, each one given an allotment of a few paragraphs on every topic.

The neoconservative vision within the speech is essentially an affirmation of ideology. Not only does it declare war on Russia and China, it places the United States in active opposition to all nondemocracies. It proposes a League of Democracies, which would presumably play the role that the United Nations now does, except that all nondemocracies would be cast outside the pale. The approach lacks any strategic framework. What would be the gain from so alienating two great powers? How would the League of Democracies fight terrorism while excluding countries like Jordan, Morocco, Egypt and Singapore? What would be the gain to the average American to lessen our influence with Saudi Arabia, the central banker of oil, in a world in which we are still crucially dependent on that energy source?

The single most important security problem that the United States faces is securing loose nuclear materials. A terrorist group can pose an existential threat to the global order only by getting hold of such material. We also have an interest in stopping proliferation, particularly by rogue regimes like Iran and North Korea. To achieve both of these core objectives-which would make American safe and the world more secure-we need Russian cooperation. How fulsome is that likely to be if we gratuitously initiate hostilities with Moscow? Dissing dictators might make for a stirring speech, but ordinary Americans will have to live with the complications after the applause dies down.

To reorder the G8 without China would be particularly bizarre. The G8 was created to help coordinate problems of the emerging global economy. Every day these problems multiply-involving trade, pollution, currencies-and are in greater need of coordination. To have a body that attempts to do this but excludes the world's second largest economy is to condemn it to failure and irrelevance. International groups are not cheerleading bodies but exist to help solve pressing global crises. Excluding countries won't make the problems go away.

McCain appears to think that he can magically unite the two main strands in the Republican foreign-policy establishment. But he can't. This is not about personalities but about two philosophically divergent views of international affairs. Put together, they will produce infighting and incoherence. We have seen this movie before. We have watched an American president unable to choose between his ideologically driven vice president and his pragmatic secretary of State-and the result was the catastrophe of George W. Bush's first term. Twenty-five years earlier, we watched another president who believed that he could encompass the entire spectrum of foreign policy. He, too, gave speeches that were drafted by advisers with divergent world views: in that case, Cyrus Vance and Zbigniew Brzezinski. It led to the paralyzing internal battles of the Carter years. Does John McCain want to try this experiment one more time?

Posted by Fareed Zakaria on April 28, 2008 7:13 AM

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doctor t:
Hi-
The reason nobody payed this proposal any attention is that it is so nuts. A simple sop to the anti-UN group, he appears that he would like to substitute the world with a fantasy world (like fantasy baseball) of "people like us". In the general election, I hope the other major and a bunch of the minor ones will put this back on the main burner to characterize McKie as the Lyndon Larouche of the present election.

Posted April 29, 2008 3:23 PM

Posted on April 29, 2008 15:23

HUSSEIN ELSHIBINI :
There is no doubt that the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan against the will of its people led to the demotivation of the military , exhaustion of the economy and ultimately collapse of the Soviet Empire.
This should be compared with the present American occupation ( officially called "liberation") of Iraq. After five years the actual results are as follows : a divided pro-American government whose authority does not extend beyond the so-called "Green Zone" , several thousands of American troops have lost their life , tens of thousands are disabled for life , and hundreds of thousands are presently suffering from post traumatic stress disorder. The cost of this war is having a clear impact on the American economy. I hope that the next American Administration would be responsible enough to admit that there is no country, whatever its might, with inexhaustible resources. Such a policy would be of great benefit to the US and the world as well.

Posted April 29, 2008 1:53 PM

Posted on April 29, 2008 13:53

SA:
This presidential campaign cycle has led me to lose all respect for the so-called mainstream media. It's shocking that such a proposal from McCain is ignored by the MSM. Their priorities are so skewed, it's beyond comprehension. Thank you very much for pointing out McCain's statement to us.

What happened to the McCain of 2000? This 2008 version bears no likeness I can detect.


Posted April 29, 2008 1:38 PM

Posted on April 29, 2008 13:38

Bob:
If McCain's point is that the world's democracies need a forum, any forum, to meet, discuss, and air their views, where their expression of views will not be distorted by the participation of dictatorships like Russian and China, then I strongly agree.

Perhaps NATO could be reenvisioned to become a global organization and fill this role.

Russian and China did not invite the US to participate in their Shanghai Council, or whatever it's called.

Fareed, you're grasping at straws.


Posted April 29, 2008 1:35 PM

Posted on April 29, 2008 13:35

Neocon Empire:
Why can't these politicians understand that the best way to promote democracy is to live well rather than going around invading other countries while burying our country under mountains of debts? The Soviet empire collapsed because we showed the Russians that we were far wealthier and happier under a capitalistic democracy than they could ever be under a Communist dictatorship. Now, after 8 years of neocon rule, we are broke trying to impose our values on the world. The Chinese are laughing at us.

Posted April 29, 2008 1:34 PM

Posted on April 29, 2008 13:34

counfounded by our leaders:
DAE,You left out John F (got us into Vietnam, and shagged everyone but his wife) Kennedy, Jimmy (blundering through foriegn policy, and attacked Iran and failed) Carter, and William Jefferson (bombing childrens pharmaceutical plants, shagged his secretary, and several of his aides all committed "suicide") Clinton.
You're right. When you look at these Presidents, it just makes you shudder at the depths of ineptitude, unfaithfulness, and criminal behavior.

Posted April 29, 2008 12:36 PM

Posted on April 29, 2008 12:36

MGLoraine:
One can only conclude that main-stream media is still doing the bidding of the Cheney White House. McCain goes around spouting absurd, bombastic nonsense like this every day, but it gets buried because the corporate sponsors know he sounds like a half-wit. Meanwhile, we are regaled with hour after hour of sound-bites and repetitive superficial analyses (i.e., speculation & prognostication by the usual pundits) regarding Rev. Wright and portions of comments he has made or is rumored to have made.

Rev. Wright is a man with opinions and a right to state them publicly. But he's not running for President, and he doesn't speak for or represent the candidate he is associated with. So who keeps trying to publicize Rev. Wright's every move while manipulating the coverage to conjure up some phony controversy? Who decides to plaster Rev. Wright's picture alongside dire predictions for Obama on the front page, while hiding items illustrating McCain's dementia / senility well in the back pages?

Cheney and Rove (or their wretched minions) are merely doing what they've been doing since 2000 - manipulating the media with influence peddling and intimidation in order to secure a third term for BushCo. And the media houses play right along, anything for a quick buck, a 'scoop', or an 'exclusive' interview.

Posted April 29, 2008 12:29 PM

Posted on April 29, 2008 12:29

Zathras:
A full defense of Sen. McCain's approach to foreign and national security affairs will have to come from someone other than me.

McCain has a long record in this area, one that reflects better than average judgment overall, but at the moment he appears to be a candidate in the general election who is still unsure that he really has the GOP nomination. This is reflected in a mix of positions intended to appeal to most voters (and that are generally consistent with those McCain held before the campaign began) and positions clearly adopted to appeal to the hard core of the Republican Party, the people who still admire President Bush. In an actual McCain administration, these two orientations could not coexist peacefully.

Having said that, I would point out that what we now call the G8 originated as a periodic gathering of the leaders of the major democracies. The Nixon administration thought it wise for the heads of governments sharing similar values to meet without being encumbered by hordes of staff and the restrictions of institutional protocol -- or by the participation of Communist dictatorships. This was not a radical approach, or one motivated by some new hostility to non-Western countries, but was instead an initiative to enable the democracies to increase their options to respond to challenges outside the security field in a timely way.

The G8 has grown beyond that vision; in many ways it has grown into precisely the kind of institution that Nixon's administration sought to bypass. In McCain's place I would be calling for expanding the G8 but convening it less frequently, say, every other year. In the years it did not meet I would attempt to resurrect the kind of informal council Nixon sought to create; its purpose would be less expansive than what McCain proposes, but its membership would be similar.

The fact is that China remains a country in which power is monopolized by the state, and Russia persists in seeking to undermine the independence of neighboring countries freed from the oppression of the old Soviet empire. No amount of American goodwill can paper over the serious differences between the governments of these countries and ours. Because once admitted to a large forum like the G8 their withdrawal for any reason would be regarded as a major diplomatic failure, the temptation to gloss over objectionable policy moves by either Russia or China -- whether Russian efforts to dismember Georgia or Chinese manipulation of the yuan -- would be considerable. It is therefore undesirable for an expanded G8, whether one thinks of this as "the councils of power" or not, to be the only forum in which the major powers interact with one another.

Periodic meetings among heads of government, representing major countries sharing democratic values, are a necessary and valuable thing, provided both the purposes and the limitations of such a forum are clearly understood beforehand. McCain's "League of Democracies," as he has described it, is grandiose and impractical, but contains at its core the important recognition that the free countries of the world can and should rest common action on their common values, as they have so often in the past.

Posted April 29, 2008 11:31 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 11:31

Amir:
Just wanted to say, keep up the good work, Fareed. One of the few major media people out there who actually concentrate on important things.

Posted April 29, 2008 11:31 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 11:31

lila:

Anyone who saw Bush's morning press conference

and who stil considers McCain, his foreign

policy clone , a realistic candidate---

Speak up. Show yourself to be an idiot.

The news conference was a horrid mix blundering

and outright lies. It was freaky.

Posted April 29, 2008 11:11 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 11:11

Jim Hickland:
McCain's foreign policy approach cements a completely overlooked facet of his campaign for President. What people and our vaunted press fail to think about is that we're not really going to vote for a man, we are really voting thousands of bureaucrats who will rush in to fill the policy and administrative posts. If enough people vote for McCain, then he'll appoint/nominate the same corrupt incompetant crowd that's destroyed this nation over the past 8 years. Fortunately, McCain is a senile old coot that can barely string enough sentences together to form an intelligent paragraph. Eventually people will turn on him

Jim Hickland

Posted April 29, 2008 10:34 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 10:34

Speranza:
Here's the thing. Statements like McCain's - and the absence of reaction to its absurdity - prove one thing for sure: America is now frightened of the world. If these were the words of a school boy about someone in the playground we'd have to ask, "What is he frightened of?" The answer is clear in this case. America is frightened that it has run out of juice and that it no longer has the character or wit to be able to pull itself out of the mire. It's going to be a long fall.

Posted April 29, 2008 10:32 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 10:32

Robert Myers:
US politicians, indeed US citizens need to embrace a foreign policy that isn't based on the presumption of always having foreign enemies. And, we need to significantly cut the military budget as part of this.

Posted April 29, 2008 8:27 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 08:27

DAE:
As regards foreign policy, I'm of the age where I thought that no president could be worse than LB "how many kids have you killed today" J, then came Richard "Cambodian Incursion" Nixon, who could be worse than that? How about Ronald "Iran-Contra" Reagan, and the worst of the lot now reigning. Well it seems they all may be trumped by John 'know-nothing" McCain.

Posted April 29, 2008 8:27 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 08:27

_kt_:
Could someone explain what the G8 does that is unique? We've got the WTO for trade and the UN for diplomacy. Is it just a rich guys club where we talk about how to arrange things for the benefit of the rich guys? If so, isn't that kind of obnoxious? I don't think I know enough about the G8 to evaluate McCain's proposal.

Posted April 29, 2008 6:33 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 06:33

Ali:
Some one should tell Mr. McCain that the Cold War is over and there were no winners....just two losers, one lost early and went bankrupt, the second one is following the same path.... with about a 15 year delayed, slow-motion structure.

However, polls tell us that the same majority that re-elected George Bush now support Mr. McCain and the difference with the Democrats is very small.....

Pretty bad, or down-right dangerous?

Posted April 29, 2008 3:19 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 03:19

Robert F. Zimmerman:
I suggest that Fareed come to Ukraine and Georgia to experience the first stirrings of Putin's efforts to keep these countries weak even if he cannot bring them back into his emerging Czarist Russia.

Posted April 29, 2008 1:53 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 01:53

Robert F. Zimmerman:
I suggest that Fareed come to Ukraine and Georgia to experience the first stirrings of Putin's efforts to keep these countries weak even if he cannot bring them back into his emerging Czarist Russia.

Posted April 29, 2008 1:53 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 01:53

Mark W.:
It's not radical to me, Nixon bombed Cambodia, so why would not Senator McCain suggest, "Bomb bomb Iran", talking about insensitivity to the effects of rhetoric on oil prices.

At a Highschool, McCain was challenged by a young person. His first impulse was to threaten that young person with "The Draft". May have been funny to him but people are watching.

Henry K. is a Consultant now. I wonder if he will become a revisionist historian as a paid Consultant ? Not too long about Henry hoped Arabs would be willing to form a cohesiveness relieving western boots on arab soils I would imagine. McCain said, "I won't go it alone", who knows what he would do.

Interesting thing is that Vietnam can be compared to regional limited incursions if one accepts the fact that North Vietnamese, Chinese, Laotians and Cambodians became active partners against our treaty obligations and strategic objectives, cough-cough.

Apparent to most of us looking at the planning stages of current and future detente' that everything is on hold until Elvis leaves the building for good.

Posted April 29, 2008 12:30 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 00:30

Neocon Empire:
John McCain has always been a hawk on foreign policies. Many of his prior records demonstrated it over and over again. I agree with the main point of the article, but have to disagree on the assertion that neocons are ideologically motivated. They are not. Democracy is not what neoconservatism is about. Neocons are hostile to the democratically elected government of Palestine. They are more than happy to protect autocratic regimes like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

What neocons are trying to do is not spreading democracy, even though that may be what they say as a cover. I am going to be the kid that yell "the emperor has no clothes" since nobody else wants to say it. What the neocons aim to do is to cement a permanant world order in which the US is the center, with western Europe and its Anglo-Saxon civilization as the core of a vast empire that stretches all over the globe. Each country in the world has its predestined role.

Nations like the UK and Germany are the most trusted allies because they are afterall Anglo-Saxon. The French and Italians are part of the traditional western Judaic-Christian civilization and therefore still part of the core neocon empire. Then you have countries like Japan, which represent the less trustworthy members that play the role of agents around the world.

All great empires must have outsiders and opponents. Russia and China are naturally targets of the neocon empire. Like Japan, they are from completely different civilizations. Unlike Japan, they are not willing to submit to the "natural" order of the world of neoconservatism. What makes these two countries stand out from the rest is that they are powerful enough to threaten this order.

You can certainly explain a lot about the neocons by this vision of theirs.

Posted April 28, 2008 9:52 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 21:52

Martin Edwin Andersen:
There is so much that is admirable about Sen. McCain, but setting up an advisors' food fight while what would be an increasingly out-of-touch president presides does not seem a wise bet to me.

The neo-cons are master apparatchiks and would, once the food starts flying, likely come out on top.

The combination of Wilsonian rhetoric and gunboat tactics may sound good, but the world is too complex a place, and we will likely end up being even more isolated.

Posted April 28, 2008 8:42 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 20:42

Martin Edwin Andersen:
There is so much that is admirable about Sen. McCain, but setting up an advisors' food fight while what would be an increasingly out-of-touch president presides does not seem a wise bet to me.

The neo-cons are master apparatchiks and would, once the food starts flying, likely come out on top.

The combination of Wilsonian rhetoric and gunboat tactics may sound good, but the world is too complex a place, and we will likely end up being even more isolated.

Posted April 28, 2008 8:39 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 20:39

A sad citizen:
Once again, an extremely well written & insightful article from Fareed Zakaria. Co-existence & economic interdependence is the key to world peace & unity. Nothing would ever be achieved by excluding 2 major powers: Russia & China from G8.& Americans think that McCain is electable!! & is the US a REAL democracy??? Wake up to reality, people! We are a nation that loves to preach democratic ideals to the world when our own house is in disorder: look at Katrina, our support of dictatorial regimes ALL OVER the world, & gross disparity of wealth in this nation!

Posted April 28, 2008 7:58 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 19:58

Betty Hamilton:
This is a fabulous article, as always. Thanks for important insights and news.
I agree, McCain is confused or out to lunch. And I agree that the press is chasing pigs in a poke. Can you see the glee with which a Democrat will challenge McCain's embrace of preemptive war? No wonder the Democrats are fighting so hard for the nomination!!!

If the current world institutions do not function effectively, it is a problem with the attitudes and behaviors of the member states. Changing the sturctures will not change these attitudes. We need to get it right with the existing, though perhaps modified, structures already in place.

After all is said and done, McCain will not be able to construct new world institutions, because he is not a great coalition builder. Just like W.


If we want change, it begins with getting the external money out of governance.


Posted April 28, 2008 6:39 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 18:39

Ken:
Yes, McCain's comments were alarming, if not scary! Instead of ignoring or irritating Russia with stupid missile defense shields at a cost of millions, we need to establish a positive relationship. Include India and Brazil, OK; ignore China, McCain you must be kidding! What I really fear, which appears to be increasngly possible, is that the Democrats are going to seize "Defeat" from the jaws of "Victory" in 2008 and McCain when President will try to resolve the strategic tragedy of Iraq by attacking Iran! Then, stand by!

Posted April 28, 2008 5:48 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 17:48

Rich:
Sorry, members of the press are all busy checking lapel flags and don't have time for this...

Posted April 28, 2008 4:32 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 16:32

bala srini:
is it a sign of the future, that american senatorial candidates in the upcoming presidential election exhibit lack of vision and mission, therby confirming to the world atlarge the apathy and beginnings of decay in the senate in particular and the american politics in general.we are getting so immersed in the murky quagmirish quicksands of middle-east that we are in a self induced and self imposed and self destructive path to second-class status.we are fast approaching the third-world status in major parameters of HEALTH,&EDUCATION & HUMAN VALUES.unless there is a grass route development in promoting awareness in these important matters of fundamentals i am afraid all these talks of foreign policy might be like spitting in the wind.the apathy and general malaise got to go and the country needs to be awakened;the question is who will;i know one who won't;HILLARY FOR SURE.

Posted April 28, 2008 3:44 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 15:44

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Posted by: REV MR PREMANSU R DAS, WORLD RELIGIONS GROUP STRATEGIST FOR DEMOCRATIC REDEVELOPMENTS IN U S A ET A | April 30, 2008 6:53 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: REV MS PAROMITA BAIDYA ROY | April 30, 2008 6:46 AM | Report abuse

I don't believe obama never knew wright's views until yesterday. Come on. They knew each other for 20 years. People don't change overnight.

Posted by: Joe | April 30, 2008 4:06 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA'S STAND ON NAFTA IS POLITICAL POSTURING SAYS HIS TOP ECONOMIC ADVISER. HIS STAND ON IRAQ IS POLITICAL POSTURING SAYS HIS TOP POLITICAL ADVISER. AND NOW, HIS MESSAGE OF CHANGE IS POLITICAL POSTURING SAYS HIS PASTOR. WHAT KIND OF PERSON IS OBAMA? YET OBAMA'S FOLLOWERS FOLLOW HIM BLINDLY AND ARE READY TO DIE FOR HIM. IS NOT THIS WHAT THEY CALL A CULT. THIS IS REAL SCARY.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 2:40 AM | Report abuse

Response to 2:15

In the vast Muslim controlled and Arab lands, like Saudi Arabia, Egypt, N. Africa, up through Persia, the number of Jews was only in the low tens of thousands. And they were all 2nd class citizens under the yoke of Muslim governments.

The population of the controlling Arab and Muslim nations, however, was about 200 million. So the ratio was about one Jew for every 10,000 Arabs or Muslims. I don't think it's logical to simply put Muslims, Jews, and Christians in the same basket, with equal weight. The same ratio of Jews to Christians was true in America also. Most Jews were living in Europe.

Posted by: History Buff | April 30, 2008 2:36 AM | Report abuse

"Remarks in recent days by Wright have riven the nation's black community into opposing camps"


...not from any Blacks I know; they all think he's acting like a jerk

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 2:21 AM | Report abuse

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Incite racial hatred against Muslims!

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TODAY'S SCRIPT:
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Incite racial hatred against Black Americans!

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 2:16 AM | Report abuse

"Blacks might be wiser allying with the "People of the Book" instead of the "People of the Sword," their former oppressors. History does not lie."

no, History doesn't lie

Slavery was done by both "People of the Book" and the "People of the Sword" , i.e. Muslims, Jews, and Christians.

So, I don't see why Blacks (or anyone else) re: slavery should be more against one religion than the other. If you are to hate Muslims for Slaver, then you might as well hate Christians and you might as well hate Jews as well. All Guilty!


do you?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 2:15 AM | Report abuse

Wright said today: "Louis Farrakhan is not my enemy. He did not put me in chains, he did not put me in slavery..."

No, but his Muslim spiritual guides and mentors did (see earlier post at 12:19)

some more quotes:

"Moreover, the ability of the Arabs to pay depended on their success as slave-hunters. When there had been a good catch, the revenue profited. The Egyptian Government had joined the International League against the slave trade. They combined, however, indirectly but deliberately, to make money out of it.

"The slave dealers had committed every variety of atrocity for which the most odious traffic in the world afforded occasion; for [Egyptian] Zubehr Rahamna, if they refused to pay their annual tribute, it was felt in Cairo that their crimes had cried aloud for chastisement. Zubehr is sufficiently described when it has been said that he was the most notorious slave dealer Africa has ever produced.

"The whole country was subdued. The whole population available after the battles became slaves. Zubehr thus wielded a formidable power."

Winston Churchill, "The River War"

If you'd like to understand why blacks so quickly become pseudo-Muslims and readily take Muslim names, read it - it's free online.

From "Africa Unchained" (2005)
"...the Arabs managed the East African slave trade. Over 20 million black slaves were shipped from East Africa to Arabia. Enslaving and slave trading in East Africa were peculiarly savage in a traffic notable for its barbarity. Villages were razed, the unfit villagers massacred. The enslaved were yoked together, several hundred in a caravan, on their long journey to the coast.

"Historians believe the slave trade was more catastrophic in East Africa than in West Africa. Diseases...were introduced by marauding Arab caravans penetrating the interior in search of slaves, decimated entire local populations.

"For the trans-Saharan slave trade, an estimated 9 million captives were shipped to slave markets in Fez, Marrakesh (Morocco), Algeria, Tunis, Libya, and Egypt"

Blacks might be wiser allying with the "People of the Book" instead of the "People of the Sword," their former oppressors. History does not lie.

Posted by: History Buff | April 30, 2008 1:49 AM | Report abuse

Just out of curiosity, how does the Black Community feel about this?

A statement is being made here. Obama either agrees with Wright (his first response), or is against him (second), or are we going to see some real political slicing and dicing and let maybe Wright be declared crazy but he makes some good points?
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Seems that many in the black community are supporting the wacky pastor:

Hill District ministers defend remarks
By Mike Cronin
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Wednesday, April 30, 2008

Sen. Barack Obama's former pastor speaks the truth, speaks for the black church and speaks for some black Pittsburgh ministers, said the Rev. Thomas E. Smith, pastor of Monumental Baptist Church in the Hill District.

Smith cited one of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's most-publicized pronouncements, his description of the Sept. 11 terror attacks as "America's chickens coming home to roost" due to U.S. foreign policies, as an example of one of those truths.

"Wright didn't slam our country in any way," said Smith, who has known Wright for about 20 years and considers him a friend. "He spoke about policies that put our country in jeopardy and human beings around the world in jeopardy."

Remarks in recent days by Wright have riven the nation's black community into opposing camps.

story continues below

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_564997.html

Posted by: Typical White Person | April 30, 2008 1:44 AM | Report abuse

republicans


will polarize defame and piss on obama and he will become the

flash in the pan he really is.

Republicans want him to run, he's the lone Indian


who will stop the whiteman....uh huh, sure he will...


John Riggins was something that happens once in awhile...


he certainly has more in common with "The Clintons,"


than obama


obama would be the towel boy


Andrew Young said that, Andrew Young knows the difference between hopes and dreams and "what is possible,"


Bill Clinton has demonstrated his strength of character and heart....relentlessly pounded by the Miami Dolphins / Washington INSIDERs

Cheney, Libby, the bush families, Paul Wolfowitz, the Kagans, Rumsfeld

he punched through their line, time after time...

he cut through the line, the hype, the spin , the BS storm...


how did they defeat him finally? they didn't , they couldn't so

they cheated....

they opted for electoral fraud, Diebold, voter culling, Ken Blackwell in Ohio...now working for a NEOCON think tank on K street , they intimidated the vote counters in Dade County FL, put Jeb Bushes girlfriends in charge of verifying the vote count...

talked trash relentlessly

and stained the reputation of a man that would go on to become a Nobel Prize winner...

Al Gore,

and instead of being celebrated as a great AMERICAN


we have to put up with these scheiss talking schiess stormers crap


as_if _that_ were okay,


it's not, in the real world it's called fraud

and CIA agents spinning schiess against the citizens would be called TREASON


because

that is what it is....and the punishment proscribed would death according to judicial studies that I'm familiar with, as and


because that is what it those treasonous acts are causing.


be forewarned, fair trial first, the rest is unscripted.


.your reponsibility is to the people first.


not the president by fraud.


get over itschiess stormers, you deserve jail time.


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Posted by: clear in sight. | April 30, 2008 1:37 AM | Report abuse

"Oval Office, "Race card, race card, race card, race card, race card," coming out of Obama's mouth"

BS it's people like yourself and the media that keep bringing it up. Obama has never once accused anyone of using race in this nomination. Not once.

You anti-Obama neocons for Hillary are a disgrace. You don't mind tearing apart this country in order to try and achieve your ends.

Just as you put us into this war with Iraq, with your non-stop campaign.

Now, it's against Obama

You don't care about this country. And your objectives are wrong:

The wars that you want will ultimately destroy this earth...there will be no winners...only losers (even including the country that you love so much).

War, is not the answer. You should be working for peace

but you're not

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 1:36 AM | Report abuse


want to help AMERICA come out of it's economic slump...


stop the "war" FRAUD machine...

make the US ECONOMY a matter of NATIONAL SECURITY....


put all contractors in IRAQ, AFGHANISTANT, and the US directly affiliated with the "war" FRAUD effect under GAO GSA aegis...


and examine their books.


an OCCUPATION is _ILLEGAL_


however, seperating the EMBEZZLERS aka


bushCO and CRONYs from the MONEY...


makes the United States a lot more legitimate in the eyes of the world...


especially if treasonists, like Robert M. Gates...who used the CIA as a tool to defeat Jimmy Carter in his reelection bid,

or George W. Bush who committed SEC FRAUD with Harken OIL

are arrested and prosecuted for those charges...

you could arrest Cheney for involvement in commiting perjury to Congress regarding WMD et al..it's in John W. Deans' BOOK, "Worse Than Watergate," the exact charges and the way to make them stick...

and put Pelosi as President...


then the IRAQIs might see us as a responsible and capable nation, rather than as a lawless regime "on the take."


.and we could deal for oil as an option.


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Posted by: be jeebus... | April 30, 2008 1:36 AM | Report abuse

let's be honest here...


we live in a set of ecosystems...


there is no mystery, no surprise, unless you count the stupidity of leaders who think with their metaphorical crotches and not with their eyes and minds...

for example: we could have made a deal for the OIL in IRAQ...


but then there wouldn't have been any big money for


Carlyle Group, Bechtel, Halliburton, KBR, Blackwater, DynCorp, and others...


and certainly no NON COMPETE CONTRACTS AWARDED eh ???


so bushCO and CRONYs and COMPLICIT CONGRESS, creates a situation which will drain the nations economy at the very moment when the worlds populations are reaching points that will tip entire regions into famine....


these rich kids, who trash talk anything standing in their way...


could get away with it 100 years ago...the land could withstand their lies.

it's not possible any more.


We need leaders that do not pander to families or the corportocracy.


The US Economy is a NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE.

The Global Economy could use a good example of how to treat leaders who are ruthless in pursuit of personal gain at the expense of their citizens.


It would be good to see some whitehouse, executive branch members


brought down low, tried for treason and executed publically....it would give others courage...and hope...


in the fear the cowardice and the destruction of our values...


remove these scum from having an effect on our lives,


take out the trash.


today.

Posted by: B me | April 30, 2008 1:34 AM | Report abuse

I sure wouldn't know a prolifergate BS artist is I saw one o nameless shunt and homosexuah lovah...

I really think you're a sell Bullschitt or die trying kinda guy, and you deserve jailtime for spreading propaganda...

you are either grossly ignorant or you're an army PSYOP guy stationed in IRAQ selling shinola to the natives....FOAD SH

.

forget about Rev Wright...


let's talk about Obama's knowledge...


he said George W. Bush and company were not the terrorist threat...

better tell that to the rest of the world...

just because Billy Bob and Joe Ray believe that spew....


don't mean that they couldn't be educated to the truth by presidential election time...

Obama doesn't understand the United States problem...


George W. Bush and thedichcheenie are the number one terrorist threat to the world...


they trained al Qeargyz, the Taliban and the Contras...and Congress funded it...


it's a fact.

Negroponte, Honduras and Iraq
by Peter Watt

July 09, 2004


Until the word became unfashionable in the West, Iraq would have been called a colony. The equivalent of the colonial office, the US embassy in Baghdad, will be the biggest embassy in the world and will be headed by John Negroponte, a veteran neo-conservative of the Reagan administration.

Negroponte's specialty, while ambassador to Honduras under Reagan (1981-1985) was to ensure that any resistance to US hegemony in Nicaragua would be utterly crushed. The ambassador carried out his duties with considerable success. A brief look at Negroponte's Central American period gives us a hint at what bodes for US-run Iraq.

When the Sandinista revolution took power in Nicaragua in 1979, alarm bells rang in Washington. Somoza, the brutal US-backed dictator, had been overthrown by revolutionary forces after 43 years in power. US hegemony in Nicaragua, and thus in Central America was under serious threat. Washington's paranoia about Cuba and Bolshevism had thus spread to Central America - any challenge to the US system of control was treated with absolute contempt, as Nicaraguans were to learn right throughout the 1980s. Indeed, any government in Latin America that refused to give in to US domination, regardless of its policies, was decried as Communist - a label which provoked the most vitriolic condemnation in Washington throughout the Cold War.


In 1980 Jimmy Carter put pressure on the Honduran government to act as a "bulwark against Communism" against the Sandinista government. With Somoza gone the US had no internal grip inside Nicaragua and would thus have to control much of its anti-Sandinista operations from outside the country's borders. Some 5000 members of Somoza's hated brutal National Guard fled Nicaragua to Honduras when the Sandinistas took power. It was in consequence that Honduras became the training ground and launching pad for the US-funded Contra war against Nicaragua.

During the Reagan administration, and while Negroponte was ambassador to the country, "Contra" militias were trained in Honduras. The Contras had hitherto made relatively small attacks across the border into Nicaragua until in 1982 thousands of marines arrived with up to 200 military advisers - airstrips were built, arms supplied and radar stations erected, all courtesy of the US taxpayer.

The Contras were trained in some of the most gruesome guerrilla war techniques.

Some were trained by military officers from Argentina's dirty war who knew nothing about the jungle but plenty about torture and execution.

Others were trained in
Florida and
California

while many others, like Honduras' military dictator, General Gustavo Alvarez Martínez, were educated in torture techniques, execution and combat

at the School of the Americas in Fort Benning, Georgia.


While it was purported by Reagan that the Contras were fighting the evil scourge of communism, referring to them as "freedom fighters,"
the Contras raped,
tortured and
terrorised the civilian population

throughout the subsequent decade, leaving the destroying the civilian infrastructure, leaving tens of thousands dead and many more displaced.

Negroponte's role in Honduras was crucial as it meant maintaining US dominance in the region. Jeane Kirkpatrick, Negroponte's predecessor at the UN once declared that "Central America is the most important place in the world for the United States today." Maintaining political control of the region meant controlling its vast and rich natural resources. The Sandinistas were beginning to take matters into their own hands and started to redistribute wealth and land in Nicaragua, thus threatening US dominance in the region. Panic in the Reagan administration reached feverish and sometimes surreal levels, with the president declaring that the Sandinistas were on the verge of invading the United States. The real cause for alarm among Reaganite neo-conservatives (including the virulent anti-communist Negroponte) was that the Sandinista revolution would spread throughout El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala. It had nothing to do with communism, just as the invasion of Iraq has nothing to do with preventing terrorism. More, it was that the economic system the US had maintained in Central America since 1945 was falling apart - it was simply untenable for the impoverished masses who barely had enough to eat. Washington's solution, like its present incarnation in the Middle East, was one of force and overwhelming military power in order to maintain US hegemony. Just as Negroponte acted as the strong arm of US imperialism in Central America in the 1980s he will protect US business and political interests in the Middle East, now the "most important place in the world for the United States today."

While the country was used as the launching ground for the war against Nicaragua, US aid to Honduras increased from 5 to almost $100 million with $200 million given in economic aid. Honduras now received more aid than anywhere else in the region,

most of the money ultimately being controlled by the military.

Jack Binns, Negroponte's predecessor as ambassador appointed by Jimmy Carter, complained about the blatant human rights abuses in Honduras and briefed him as he took office. He later reported that


Salvadoran nuns

who fled to Honduras after the assassination of Archbishop Oscar Romero had been tortured by the Honduran secret police and thrown out of helicopters alive -


a speciality of the Argentine military officers employed in Honduras during Negroponte's stint. One official, Rick Chidester, claims Negroponte ordered him to remove all mention of torture and execution from his report on human rights in Honduras.

During Negroponte's stay in Honduras, human rights violations peaked. The infamous US trained death squad, Batallion 3-16, was notorious for the torture, rape, kidnapping and killing of Honduran dissidents. Hundreds of people disappeared. By the end of the 1980s at least 10,000 were dead, not to mention the conservative estimate of 200,000 deaths in Central America as a result of US intervention. Negroponte, however, claims no knowledge of the human rights abuses the US carried out and funded despite being ambassador at the time. He told CNN, "I think on balance if you look back at what we did, I think a good case can be made that there was actually less suffering in Central America as a result of the actions the United States took than there would have been if we had just folded our arms and done nothing."

Many other Honduran victims of the US led war in Central America ended up at the El Aguacate airstrip, whose creation was supervised by Negroponte, and where dissidents were detained and tortured - 185 corpses were dug up there in 2001.

When George W. Bush appointed Negroponte as US ambassador to the UN, members of Honduran death squads who had previously been granted asylum in the US were deported. It was feared they testify about Negroponte's role in human rights abuses while ambassador to Honduras.

Interestingly, none of this came up in the US and British mainstream media when career journalists heaped praise on Reagan shortly after his death. Somehow, amidst the fawning in mainstream and elite circles it was forgotten that the Reagan administration carried out in Central America one of the worst campaigns of state terrorism of the late 20th century. All of this in the context of the present situation in Iraq - one might expect that the media would pick up on the fact that many of the present incumbents in Washington are those who were responsible for the terror in Central America in the 1980s. John Negroponte's appointment as ambassador, as if it was not clear enough by now, tells something about what Bush et al have in store for Iraq.

What should we expect now that the US has handed "sovereignty" back to Iraqis? What kind of sovereignty is it? Will it be more sovereign than Honduras, which was effectively controlled by the CIA and the US military?

Of course, it is nothing like sovereignty. Some 250,000 occupation soldiers will stay in the country long after the US has left. Not having allowed any free elections, the US has installed a puppet government that will receive orders from Washington. Should the new government fail to do so, it can expect to be overthrown either by US backed coup organised from the US embassy or outright invasion (again). Iraqi sovereignty does not even allow the courts to prosecute foreign civilians or contractors or mercenaries should they commit a crime. Any mercenary guilty of killing an Iraqi is immune from legal prosecution. The new government has no control of the quarter of a million soldiers that will continue to occupy the country and intimidate the civilian population. The American government will determine how the budget of $18 billion for reconstruction is spent. Iraq's natural resources will be handed over to mostly American private companies - control of oil reserves the most obvious example. Moreover, the Bush administration has ensured that Iraq's public services should be milked for profit for US corporations who will now control much of the country's infrastructure. So much for "sovereignty."

We might consider the reaction of people in the US if a foreign power invaded, killed thousands of civilians,

destroyed the country's infrastructure after a ten year bombing campaign and sanctions that left up to

a million dead, denied Americans the right to vote while making lofty claims about freedom and democracy,

shot people protesting the invasion,

shot carloads of people at checkpoints

and condemned present and future generations to all kinds of disease and illness and maiming as a result of

exposure to depleted uranium and contact with unexploded cluster bombs.

How would Americans react when the foreign power supposedly left the country, leaving hundreds of thousands of soldiers and mercenaries in the US, all immune from prosecution in American courts after appointing a puppet government that took its orders from the foreign capital and having given American natural resources and public services over to foreign companies. How would Americans react to being denied the right to vote when the leaders of the occupying power strutted about making asserting this was a victory for democracy?

The anger and outrage Americans would feel is now felt by Iraqis. Resistance to the US occupying forces will increase, and eventually, like all imperial powers, the Americans will be forced to leave - because of the scale of the resistance and because of the chaos wreaked by the occupying forces. Yet before that happens we are likely to see a great deal of violence. The US will attempt to crush all kinds of resistance to their power, which is only likely to become more organized and apparent.

Interestingly, none of this came up in the mainstream media when career journalists heaped praise on Reagan shortly after his death. Somehow, amongst the fawning and whining in mainstream and elite circles it was forgotten that the Reagan administration carried out in Central America one of the worst campaigns of state terrorism of the late 20th century. All of this in the context of the present situation in Iraq - one might expect that the media would pick up on the fact that many of the present incumbents in Washington are those who were responsible for the terror in Central America in the 1980s. John Negroponte's appointment as ambassador, as if it was not clear enough by now, tells something of what Bush et al have in store for Iraq.


Peter Watt is an independent journalist and activist. He presently lives in France.


so slowmo AMERICANS and stupid Obama boyah...


wake up, Wright aint right, but he aint wrong...he's predjudiced...but some of his facts are right...


get over it.


.John D. Negroponte was on Charlie Rose as the Deputy Secretary of State


lying through his teeth, covering the trail of bushCO and CRONYs


it's online if you want to see a liar in action.


.


Posted by: a man with more knowlege about being president than Obama.... | April 30, 2008 1:33 AM | Report abuse


sheeesh...what a bunch of cynics...illogically and unrepentantly so...look, haven't you ever cared for someone deeply, but disagreed fervently about a matter?...and with a sense of grace and loyalty, felt compelled to stand by and protect them, though your beliefs were 180 from theirs?...a parent? a friend? an old beau or belle?...a teacher?...somebody?

obama tried to put this one to bed the first go round with his philadelphia speech, but the media, and clinton, wouldn't let it go...he let it hang around his neck to a great disadvantage for a great length of time, when he could have cut bait at the beginning...my sense is that he was trying to do the honorable thing by his pastor by not throwing him under the bus and attempting to explain from whence wright comes...all of this at obama's expense of credibility...and going one step further, if you watch the entire sermon, wright is actually spot on factually...but, it is a feral speech...certainly not sunshine and rainbows...

while i don't pretend to know what is in the hearts and minds of these two men, in watching wright over a 60 hour period, wright, as jon stewart so aptly put it,went from mild, to medium, to muy picante...the shift was fascinating to watch and by monday morning, the man had ridden way off the ranch on quite the high horse, saddlebags teeming with hubris...i would wager obama felt betrayed, mocked and lied to, played...perhaps even a bit foolish...

obama never claimed him as his spiritual advisor, but as his pastor...that is the work of the media...as to him not being aware of certain sermons, we don't know how often he went to church, and we don't know what he experienced...many of the congregation have sited to the media that they, too, had never witnessed behavior, like that of the last few days...

so...what is the logical reasoning of doubting obama at his word?...why is it so hard to imagine that he was hurt and surprised and shocked by wright's behavior?...there are 8000 members of wright's congregation...i do not believe they are undercover muslims, who hate the white man, tolerating and feeding off of intolerant speech...wright is a charismatic fellow, who surely gave many inspiring and compassionate speeches, in balance to the more inflamed ones, who has done great good for his community and i would wager that these people, including obama, were touched by that...

ultimately, i don't think obama was put into a corner and forced to denounce wright over this...i think he proactively did this out of grave disappointment and a certain bit of anger at wright...though this is a political campaign, obama's impetus is that of a nonpolitical nature...simply the betterment of our nation and peoples...that's it, that's all...not a powerplay, no subterfuge...

if you don't like him, fine, you don't like him...but rag on his policy.

..and if you want to question character and guilt by association, give some thought to a woman who would stay with a man, the likes of bill, for far longer than twenty years...a man who betrayed her, lied to his friends and his country at great financial expense to taxpayers...a man who has been tangled and mired in questionable politics, questionable financial dealings, ethical dilemmas of the female persuasion...

guilt by association is never pretty, and, never simple...and it is only exacerbated by our rubbernecking armchair analysis and that of the media...there are bigger fish to fry, better things to disagree on...

Posted by: jazzgrrrl25 | April 30, 2008 1:31 AM | Report abuse

Bush performed badly in his eight years.
I do not know how this kind of common person to be elected by the USA people 8 years ago?
Can not believe.....

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 1:17 AM | Report abuse

amongst chaos.
when people scream loudly, we all loose.

i have something to say, and i scream, but i don't scream loudly.

i can't see other people's comments except for...death, death, death, .....

please, don't let one person's commentary undermine the rest of ours.


when i say:
who is ___.
i type personally type in each name and do not cut and paste.

Posted by: comment lost | April 30, 2008 1:08 AM | Report abuse

Come to think of it, Michelle Obama's state about never being proud of America before, begins to make sense in light of Rev. Wright's sermons. . . . . Surely Michelle was listening.

And if Obama becomes President, will he accuse his politican opponents of playing the race card, like Bush accuses his of being unpatriotic??? . . . . In light of Rev. Wright and the way Obama has run his campaign and the way in which he is so quick to wrongfully accuse Hillary? . . . I can hear it now from the Oval Office, "Race card, race card, race card, race card, race card," coming out of Obama's mouth.

Posted by: Coldcomfort | April 30, 2008 1:05 AM | Report abuse

barrack obama, spectacular performance!

barrack obama, i think the clintons lost my support since three events:

1. hillary's bellicose statement about annihalting the relatively peaceful nation of iran. iran is relatively peaceful, because they have not subjected their interests overseas, and merely subject their interest adjacent to their borders or within the middle east.
2. hillary's support of a fuel holliday. no explanation necessary, you do the research.
3. the fiasco pertaining to comments by a former us marine corps and navy enliste.
the reverened Jeremiah Wright grew up on philly and does not know jim crowe. philly knows agression against blacks (see Move), but the reverened Jeremiah Wright does not know jim crowe.

real black activists and children of jim crowe like the Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King Junior, Malcolm X, and Muhammad Ali, know oppression first hand and will walk with white folk. when i see reverend jeremiah wright i see high yellow. jeremiah wright is mostly white, with a little black.

barrack obama isn't as black as you thought he was, but he has my support because hillary clinton supports zionism.

Posted by: egalitaire | April 30, 2008 1:00 AM | Report abuse

A man with more knowledge-

I actually read your screed (another few minutes of my life wasted).

I sure hope you're wrong about knowing more than O. "Not having allowed any free elections[in Iraq], the US has installed a puppet government that will receive orders from Washington." Gee, even Jimmy Carter recognizes that they had free elections on January 30, 2005 for a transitional government, ratification of a Constitution in October 2005, and an election of a permanent government in December 2005, where 76.4% of registered voters participated.

Considering you were SO off on this, I doubt if it's worth checking any of the other 'facts' you presented.

BTW, if I lived under the Saddam government, I would have welcomed American intervention - at any and all cost. I'm one of those 'live free or die' guys.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 12:55 AM | Report abuse

The point is that Rev. Wright has not just recently gone off the deep end. He been giving sermons like this for a long time. And actually had some of his more enflamatory sermons on his web-page.

Obama said that he never heard Rev. Wright give sermons like that, but this is hard to believe. He never heard other parishners talking about the fire sermons Old Rev. gave last sunday (the sunday Obama missed)??! . . And Uncle Wright has been with Obama as his mentor and spiritual advisor for TWENTY YEARS! . . Obama never had conversations that would indicate the kind of sermons Wright was giving??! . . Come off it -- Obama's lying. . . . . . . . But anyone who could believe George Bush, I suppose could believe Obama.

But what is really bad, is the way Obama so mean spiritedly and wrongfully attacked Clinton for playing the race cards at every turn in the election. . . . . Obama's turned out to be such a hypocrit.

And remember, the main theme of Obama's campaign was that he was the noble statesman and the Uniter. . . . . . And now we realize that he's just another politician and a hypocrit.

Posted by: Coldcomfort | April 30, 2008 12:51 AM | Report abuse

If Barack Obama or "Barak", as some of you spell it, is foolish enough to back-peddle now, considerably way after the first 5 minutes he should have distanced himself from that idiot hate-mongering pastor, then you can't really believe that he is of christian values.

Also, and by the way, if you can't even spell the name of the person you are voting for, then you really shouldn't be voting.

Basically, it comes down to this... If you want McCain to win, then throw your support behind Obama, because the majority of Republicans and Democrats will vote for McCain over Obama.

Given the choice between Clinton and McCain, the majority will go with Clinton.

Do the math, figure it out, be realistic, and come up with your own right choice.

Anyway you slice it, Obamas bad for our country and will severely damage us in the end.

Posted by: JST | April 30, 2008 12:48 AM | Report abuse

"I'm going to go out on a limb and say that even if Obama literally threw Rev. Wright under a bus, that would not be sufficient for conservatives."

Uh hummm... today Obama DID throw Wright under the bus!

A day late and a dollar short!

Not good enough for conservatives.

Not good for democrats either.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 12:42 AM | Report abuse

Osama today denounced the teachings and principles in a very strongly worded statement.

"I have been led astray. My spiritual leader has shown very little consideration for me and my fatwas, causing me to have to live in caves, do without my wives and cutting back my threatening videos to almost nothing. While those engaged in my suicide missions get to cavort around in topless bars and do shots, I have to make cave drawings.

Had I known this would have happened, I would have stayed in the construction business and made lots of money on the American Embassy in Baghdad."

Oh, it was Obama, not Osama.

Oh well, easy mistake to make.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 12:41 AM | Report abuse

Negroponte, Honduras and Iraq
by Peter Watt

July 09, 2004


Until the word became unfashionable in the West, Iraq would have been called a colony. The equivalent of the colonial office, the US embassy in Baghdad, will be the biggest embassy in the world and will be headed by John Negroponte, a veteran neo-conservative of the Reagan administration.

Negroponte's specialty, while ambassador to Honduras under Reagan (1981-1985) was to ensure that any resistance to US hegemony in Nicaragua would be utterly crushed. The ambassador carried out his duties with considerable success. A brief look at Negroponte's Central American period gives us a hint at what bodes for US-run Iraq.

When the Sandinista revolution took power in Nicaragua in 1979, alarm bells rang in Washington. Somoza, the brutal US-backed dictator, had been overthrown by revolutionary forces after 43 years in power. US hegemony in Nicaragua, and thus in Central America was under serious threat. Washington's paranoia about Cuba and Bolshevism had thus spread to Central America - any challenge to the US system of control was treated with absolute contempt, as Nicaraguans were to learn right throughout the 1980s. Indeed, any government in Latin America that refused to give in to US domination, regardless of its policies, was decried as Communist - a label which provoked the most vitriolic condemnation in Washington throughout the Cold War.

In 1980 Jimmy Carter put pressure on the Honduran government to act as a "bulwark against Communism" against the Sandinista government. With Somoza gone the US had no internal grip inside Nicaragua and would thus have to control much of its anti-Sandinista operations from outside the country's borders. Some 5000 members of Somoza's hated brutal National Guard fled Nicaragua to Honduras when the Sandinistas took power. It was in consequence that Honduras became the training ground and launching pad for the US-funded Contra war against Nicaragua.

During the Reagan administration, and while Negroponte was ambassador to the country, "Contra" militias were trained in Honduras. The Contras had hitherto made relatively small attacks across the border into Nicaragua until in 1982 thousands of marines arrived with up to 200 military advisers - airstrips were built, arms supplied and radar stations erected, all courtesy of the US taxpayer.

The Contras were trained in some of the most gruesome guerrilla war techniques.

Some were trained by military officers from Argentina's dirty war who knew nothing about the jungle but plenty about torture and execution.

Others were trained in
Florida and
California

while many others, like Honduras' military dictator, General Gustavo Alvarez Martínez, were educated in torture techniques, execution and combat

at the School of the Americas in Fort Benning, Georgia.


While it was purported by Reagan that the Contras were fighting the evil scourge of communism, referring to them as "freedom fighters,"
the Contras raped,
tortured and
terrorised the civilian population

throughout the subsequent decade, leaving the destroying the civilian infrastructure, leaving tens of thousands dead and many more displaced.

Negroponte's role in Honduras was crucial as it meant maintaining US dominance in the region. Jeane Kirkpatrick, Negroponte's predecessor at the UN once declared that "Central America is the most important place in the world for the United States today." Maintaining political control of the region meant controlling its vast and rich natural resources. The Sandinistas were beginning to take matters into their own hands and started to redistribute wealth and land in Nicaragua, thus threatening US dominance in the region. Panic in the Reagan administration reached feverish and sometimes surreal levels, with the president declaring that the Sandinistas were on the verge of invading the United States. The real cause for alarm among Reaganite neo-conservatives (including the virulent anti-communist Negroponte) was that the Sandinista revolution would spread throughout El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala. It had nothing to do with communism, just as the invasion of Iraq has nothing to do with preventing terrorism. More, it was that the economic system the US had maintained in Central America since 1945 was falling apart - it was simply untenable for the impoverished masses who barely had enough to eat. Washington's solution, like its present incarnation in the Middle East, was one of force and overwhelming military power in order to maintain US hegemony. Just as Negroponte acted as the strong arm of US imperialism in Central America in the 1980s he will protect US business and political interests in the Middle East, now the "most important place in the world for the United States today."

While the country was used as the launching ground for the war against Nicaragua, US aid to Honduras increased from 5 to almost $100 million with $200 million given in economic aid. Honduras now received more aid than anywhere else in the region,

most of the money ultimately being controlled by the military.

Jack Binns, Negroponte's predecessor as ambassador appointed by Jimmy Carter, complained about the blatant human rights abuses in Honduras and briefed him as he took office. He later reported that

Salvadoran nuns

who fled to Honduras after the assassination of Archbishop Oscar Romero had been tortured by the Honduran secret police and thrown out of helicopters alive -

a speciality of the Argentine military officers employed in Honduras during Negroponte's stint. One official, Rick Chidester, claims Negroponte ordered him to remove all mention of torture and execution from his report on human rights in Honduras.

During Negroponte's stay in Honduras, human rights violations peaked. The infamous US trained death squad, Batallion 3-16, was notorious for the torture, rape, kidnapping and killing of Honduran dissidents. Hundreds of people disappeared. By the end of the 1980s at least 10,000 were dead, not to mention the conservative estimate of 200,000 deaths in Central America as a result of US intervention. Negroponte, however, claims no knowledge of the human rights abuses the US carried out and funded despite being ambassador at the time. He told CNN, "I think on balance if you look back at what we did, I think a good case can be made that there was actually less suffering in Central America as a result of the actions the United States took than there would have been if we had just folded our arms and done nothing."

Many other Honduran victims of the US led war in Central America ended up at the El Aguacate airstrip, whose creation was supervised by Negroponte, and where dissidents were detained and tortured - 185 corpses were dug up there in 2001.

When George W. Bush appointed Negroponte as US ambassador to the UN, members of Honduran death squads who had previously been granted asylum in the US were deported. It was feared they testify about Negroponte's role in human rights abuses while ambassador to Honduras.

Interestingly, none of this came up in the US and British mainstream media when career journalists heaped praise on Reagan shortly after his death. Somehow, amidst the fawning in mainstream and elite circles it was forgotten that the Reagan administration carried out in Central America one of the worst campaigns of state terrorism of the late 20th century. All of this in the context of the present situation in Iraq - one might expect that the media would pick up on the fact that many of the present incumbents in Washington are those who were responsible for the terror in Central America in the 1980s. John Negroponte's appointment as ambassador, as if it was not clear enough by now, tells something about what Bush et al have in store for Iraq.

What should we expect now that the US has handed "sovereignty" back to Iraqis? What kind of sovereignty is it? Will it be more sovereign than Honduras, which was effectively controlled by the CIA and the US military?

Of course, it is nothing like sovereignty. Some 250,000 occupation soldiers will stay in the country long after the US has left. Not having allowed any free elections, the US has installed a puppet government that will receive orders from Washington. Should the new government fail to do so, it can expect to be overthrown either by US backed coup organised from the US embassy or outright invasion (again). Iraqi sovereignty does not even allow the courts to prosecute foreign civilians or contractors or mercenaries should they commit a crime. Any mercenary guilty of killing an Iraqi is immune from legal prosecution. The new government has no control of the quarter of a million soldiers that will continue to occupy the country and intimidate the civilian population. The American government will determine how the budget of $18 billion for reconstruction is spent. Iraq's natural resources will be handed over to mostly American private companies - control of oil reserves the most obvious example. Moreover, the Bush administration has ensured that Iraq's public services should be milked for profit for US corporations who will now control much of the country's infrastructure. So much for "sovereignty."


We might consider the reaction of people in the US if a foreign power invaded, killed thousands of civilians,

destroyed the country's infrastructure after a ten year bombing campaign and sanctions that left up to

a million dead, denied Americans the right to vote while making lofty claims about freedom and democracy,

shot people protesting the invasion,

shot carloads of people at checkpoints

and condemned present and future generations to all kinds of disease and illness and maiming as a result of

exposure to depleted uranium and contact with unexploded cluster bombs.

How would Americans react when the foreign power supposedly left the country, leaving hundreds of thousands of soldiers and mercenaries in the US, all immune from prosecution in American courts after appointing a puppet government that took its orders from the foreign capital and having given American natural resources and public services over to foreign companies. How would Americans react to being denied the right to vote when the leaders of the occupying power strutted about making asserting this was a victory for democracy?

The anger and outrage Americans would feel is now felt by Iraqis. Resistance to the US occupying forces will increase, and eventually, like all imperial powers, the Americans will be forced to leave - because of the scale of the resistance and because of the chaos wreaked by the occupying forces. Yet before that happens we are likely to see a great deal of violence. The US will attempt to crush all kinds of resistance to their power, which is only likely to become more organized and apparent.

Interestingly, none of this came up in the mainstream media when career journalists heaped praise on Reagan shortly after his death. Somehow, amongst the fawning and whining in mainstream and elite circles it was forgotten that the Reagan administration carried out in Central America one of the worst campaigns of state terrorism of the late 20th century. All of this in the context of the present situation in Iraq - one might expect that the media would pick up on the fact that many of the present incumbents in Washington are those who were responsible for the terror in Central America in the 1980s. John Negroponte's appointment as ambassador, as if it was not clear enough by now, tells something of what Bush et al have in store for Iraq.

Peter Watt is an independent journalist and activist. He presently lives in France.


so slowmo AMERICANS and stupid Obama boyah...

wake up, Wright aint right, but he aint wrong...he's predjudiced...but some of his facts are right...


get over it.


.John D. Negroponte was on Charlie Rose as the Deputy Secretary of State


lying through his teeth, covering the trail of bushCO and CRONYs


it's online if you want to see a liar in action.


.

Posted by: a man with more knowlege about being president than Obama.... | April 30, 2008 12:39 AM | Report abuse

So What! It doesn't matter if Hillary or Obama get the DNC endorsement, I'll still vote for either one. I don't want four more years of Republican garbage in Washington.

Posted by: Michael | April 30, 2008 12:34 AM | Report abuse

Conservatives are such crybabies. "OBAMA HAS TO DENOUNCE HIM! DENOUNCE HIM NOW!" "ALL RIGHT, HE DENOUNCED HIM, BUT THAT'S NOT ENOUGH!!!!! IT WAS TOO LATE!"
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that even if Obama literally threw Rev. Wright under a bus, that would not be sufficient for conservatives. 90% of these cats don't like black or brown people. They love Jeremiah Wright. They need Jeremiah Wright. The Republican platform is so idiotically out of touch with reality, and so indefensible that they need to resort to guilt by association tactics. When all else fails, revert to McCarthyism. Take your marching orders from Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and Jonah Goldberg. All three of them are weak, just like most conservatives. Did anyone read John McCain's healthcare plan? That is easily the dumbest thing I've seen in years. I'd rather George W. Bush than John McCain. This guy just isn't smart. So the racist, facist right wingers bangs their desks and screams about flags & patriotism. Keep it up, boys. You and Bob Dole Redux are going down. I can't wait. No one deserves defeat more in this country than conservatives. I just can't wait! These racist windbags should only be relevant a couple more election cycles. And it feels so good. 4,055 dead American kids in Iraq. How many more? Just give me a number. When will you feel safe? Oh, never, because you're afraid of black people and gays. My grandfather is an ardent Republican but he's got more class and more balls than any of these neoconservatives. White supremacy might have worked in the early 1900s, but it is on the wan. Neoconservatives are the albatross hanging around this country. Anyone who won't vote for Barack Obama because of Rev. Wright would not have voted for him anyway. Don't listen to their nonsense. They're fake Christians. If they really emulated Christ, then they'd forgive Jeremiah Wright and or Barack Obama. But they won't. They just want lower taxes. That's all these people care about. They're apologists for the rich, or they're rich themselves. Time to polish the platform, guys. I know, it hurts. But it's just that time.


New York City Secession 2010

Posted by: legan00@ccny.cuny.edu | April 30, 2008 12:33 AM | Report abuse

Rev Wright...


let's talk about Obama's knowledge...

he said George W. Bush and company were not the terrorist threat...


better tell that to the rest of the world...


just because Billy Bob and Joe Ray believe that spew....

don't mean that they couldn't be educated to the truth by presidential election time...

Obama doesn't understand the United States problem...

George W. Bush and thedichcheenie are the number one terrorist threat to the world...


they trained al Qeargyz, the Taliban and the Contras...and Congress funded it...


it's a fact.

Posted by: forget about | April 30, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

Gonzo-

Duke hates an entire race because he thinks his is superior.

Wright hates an entire race because of real and imagined atrocities of some whites against blacks.

They both hate an entire race. That is the problem. Bigotry is being strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ. They both are intolerant of an entire race, solely because of skin color. They are both equally bigoted.

So it doesn't matter how Wright got to his position. He's a bigot, now, the same as Duke. Not all white cultures have had a history of black slavery. Do you see anything in his rantings that suggests anything other than ALL white me are evil?


Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

Gotta love Rev. Wrong. He's making this easy. Real easy.

Posted by: bdstauffer | April 30, 2008 12:29 AM | Report abuse

Obama proves day by day how incompetent he really is, he had a chance to get past this... but he rope-a-doped that chance away.

If there is anyone out there that still thinks Obama can change anything in any meaningful way, they need professional psychological help.

Obama is the same old story with a new set of words. At least Clinton is a known quantity, Obama on the other hand is just an immature loose cannon.

Plain old arrogance and dangerous political ambition in the guise of "A man of the people." Reminds me of a black Elmer Gantry.

Posted by: plaza04433 | April 30, 2008 12:28 AM | Report abuse

racially conscious - sorry

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 12:22 AM | Report abuse

Eat Your Words, Lady:

OBAMA CHAIRMAN OF THE SENATE OVERSIGHT COMMITTED ON AFGHANISTAN FOR A YEAR AND A HALF NOW

NOT ONE MEETING
--------------
They rarely ever meet and certainly hold no hearings. Get the facts and stop screaming...you are only confirming that you're an idiot.

Posted by: michael4 | April 30, 2008 12:22 AM | Report abuse

Hillary is the most conniving Clinton, having one of her strongest supporters arrange the invitation of Wright. It does not change who Wright is...

but it sure tells us who Hillary is too!!

"Who was sitting next to Wright at the head table for the National Press Club event: It was the Rev. Dr. Barbara Reynolds, a former editorial board member of USA Today who teaches at the Howard University School of Divinity. An ordained minister, she was introduced at the press club event as the person "who organized" it.

But guess what? She's also an ardent longtime booster of Sen. Hillary Clinton.

Their strong supporter, Reynolds, helps arrange a speech by the outspoken and egocentric Wright which receives blanket national coverage to the disadvantage of Clinton's opponent."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 12:21 AM | Report abuse

Bill Moyers looks dumber than ever feeding wright easy answers. PBS and the activists Move On have shoot themsevles in foot-again. Dean ed, Kerry ed, Gore d, Carter d, Kennedy ed. Eye carumba! Germans, Irish, Japanese, Vitnemse etc. have all gotten past their 'heritage' and blended in ...so time to move on dot org that.
Bush has to be laughing and again blaming Dems/ Congress...as they Pelosi, Reid, Kerry, Gore, Carter, etc. are weak,too. Go Hillary!

Posted by: ribbon | April 30, 2008 12:19 AM | Report abuse

Bush is a fake Christian. Now it seems Obama is a fake Christian too! How Ironic is that. Those who have vitriolic hatred for Bush are supporting someone EXACTLY like him! Is that too funny or what? Suddenly after 20 years BS I mean BH Obama and Mama Obama denounce Wright for what he stands for. After 20 years you don't know what your Pastor stands for? Liar.

Posted by: Jason | April 30, 2008 12:19 AM | Report abuse

The good Reverend Wright, along with other anti-white blacks, should wake up and start focusing their energy and intelligence toward their true African heritage which was full of suffering. Here's an example quote:

"The stronger race soon began to prey upon the simple [black African] aboriginals; some of the Arab tribes were camel-breeders; some were goat-herds; some were Baggaras or cow-herds. But all, without exception, were hunters of men. To the great slave-market at Jedda [in today's Saudi Arabia] a continual stream of negro captives has flowed for hundreds of years. The invention of gunpowder and the adoption by the Arabs of firearms facilitated the traffic by placing the ignorant negroes at a further disadvantage. Thus the situation in the Sudan for several centuries may be summed up as follows: The dominant race of Arab invaders was unceasingly spreading its blood, religion, customs, and language among the black aboriginal population, and at the same time it harried and enslaved them.

"The state of society that arose out of this may be easily imagined. The warlike Arab tribes fought and brawled among themselves in ceaseless feud and strife. The negroes trembled in apprehension of capture, or rose locally against their oppressors. Occasionally an important Sheikh would effect the combination of many tribes, and a kingdom came into existence --a community consisting of a military class armed with guns and of
multitudes of slaves, at once their servants and their merchandise, and sometimes trained as soldiers. The dominion might prosper viciously till it was overthrown by some more powerful league."

Winston Churchill, "The River War"

Black Muslims are being taken for a ride by their ignorance of their own history. How do Black Muslims respond to such descriptions of their story and forced diaspora like the above?

Posted by: History Buff | April 30, 2008 12:19 AM | Report abuse

And just like the deafening silence of Obama for the last twenty years is the deafening silence of all you self righteous, racially conscience as*bags on the left about Byrd.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 12:18 AM | Report abuse

This is not really about Rev. Wright. It is about the character and judgment of someone (Obama) who would join a racist black liberation theology church; stay for 20 years; formulate a close relationship with the racist and anti-American pastor such that he calls him his "mentor and spiritual adviser;" try to conceal this from the public by continually saying that he is a "Christian;" and then expect us to forget about those 20 years, merely because he himself is finally "outraged." Rev. Wright admits that he preaches black liberation theology, and after 20 years of attendance, Obama knew it, too. Where in the Bible do you find anything both consistent with the tenets of Christianity and consistent with these statements by James Cone, one of the founders of black liberation theology?
(1) "To be Christian is to be one of those whom God has chosen. God has chosen black people." (2) "While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism." (3) "All white men are responsible for white oppression." (4) "Theologically, Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man "the devil." (5) "If there is any contemporary meaning of the Antichrist, the white church seems to be a manifestation of it." (6) "Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."

Posted by: James | April 30, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Audacity - explain then, how the former KKK member is still an influential democrat senator.

Crickets...................

The first interaction between Bryd and Obama.

Obama: Senator, it is a pleasure to meet you.

Byrd: Flipping Obama a nickle, go get me a soda boy, Ahm thirsty.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 12:12 AM | Report abuse

"Oh Vera....but Hillary has been held to this scrutiny. Barack is just now being held to the same standard. I wonder how it makes him feel? Pretty petty is it? He and his supporters are whiny now that the game is not going their way."

Obama is being scrutinized over someone ELSE, not his beliefs, not his policies...over his PASTOR!! By the way, where is separation of church and state? I find it rather odd just how much religion has been in this campaign. Hillary, on the other hand, was scrutinized just a bit for all the shady dealings she, herself, has been behind! She was involved in NAFTA-she LOBBIED for it! She was involved in Whitewater, she is most certainly involved in the fraud case with Peter Paul-how convenient she won't have to testify til AFTER the general election. She spoke the lies from her OWN mouth about Bosnia and Ireland, it also came from her OWN mouth that she would 'obliterate' Iran. She also went before the American public and LIED for her husband when she knew what he had done. These people (Bill and Hillary) are such professional liars that they smile in your face while your job is being ready to be shipped overseas and their pockets are getting all the fatter!

Wake up, people! McCain-he was a member of the Keating 5...he changes his story on almost EVERY issue-some of it pandering and some of it just lies! Now, he and Hillary are trying to pull the wool over people's eyes once AGAIN, by dangling the gas tax holiday, while forgetting to leave out that you may only end up saving about a half a tank of gas but the debt will be here for years to come!

Obama's not a perfect person but if you actually READ and knew his policies and only cared about HIM and not his preacher, garbage man, mailman, the guy who cuts his hair...because this is how silly this is all becoming, then you'd KNOW why most of us support him.

Look, not ALL politicians are evil, greedy demons. There actually are some good ones but sadly, they are shadowed by the images of the cheating, scandal toxic politicians that do nothing but divide our country and tear it down.

For the first time, in MY life...there's a different politician on the scene and for once, I am excited about politics again and what that could all mean for ALL of us!

Before I'm done...please get over Michelle's comment about 'being proud for the first time in her ADULT life'. She was referring to how people were coming together and caring about politics and getting involved. I've never seen it either, in MY adult life so please...get over it!

Posted by: Vera | April 30, 2008 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Paul, what are you doin reading this website anyway man. Don't you know you will probably hear the devils word in here. You need to get your head out of this here website and back in your bible bro. Quick!

Posted by: Dr. Gonzo | April 30, 2008 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Political pragmatism is the only religion politicians know. Obama is going to lose with Jeremiah Wright so he has to take a different direction. It is my guess that Obama agrees with Wright but it is a losing strategy. For the sake of Black Christians, I'm glad this has happened because Wrights black racism is from Satan.
They need to follow Scripture not men. This may put them heading toward Jesus. I'll not vote for Obama for the same reason I wouldn't vote for Mitt Romney. You can't go from pro abortion (1.300 black babies killed every day in the US), anti white, anti Semitic and pro gay marriage, one day and Jesus the next day. In time after he proves that he has changed, maybe he will be electable.

Posted by: paul swinford Christian truckdriver | April 30, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

No jtom, don't mistake, I am not defending Rev. Wright at all. I think he's an idiot. But he doesn't hate white people as your David Duke "analogy" would hold. He doesn't think black people are superior, more perfect beings than white's. He just hates what whites have done to his people and all that has resulted. He still is a jack ass but damn, you can't exactly say his positions and sentiments are baseless.

Posted by: Dr. Gonzo | April 30, 2008 12:01 AM | Report abuse

All of this focus on Reverend Wright is the gay marriage issue of 2004. This is the same crap being spewed again to take our minds off of the real issues. It's amazing how we are sucked in again on non issues such as Rev. Wright. Get ready for another 4 years of the same old crap brought to you by the war mongering neocons.

Posted by: TruthSeeker2008 | April 29, 2008 11:59 PM | Report abuse

The following examples of segregation are excerpts from examples of Jim Crow laws shown at the National Park Service website. The examples include anti-miscegenation laws. Although sometimes counted among the "Jim Crow laws" of the South, those laws also were passed by other states for many years. Anti-miscegenation laws were not repealed by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 but were declared unconstitutional in the 1967 Supreme Court case Loving v. Virginia.

Alabama

* "All passenger stations in this state operated by any motor transportation company shall have separate waiting rooms or space and separate ticket windows for the white and colored races."

Arizona

* "The marriage of a person of Caucasian blood with a Negro, Mongolian, Malay, or Hindu shall be null and void."

Arkansas

* Various laws from 1884 to 1947 prohibited marriage or relations between whites and blacks or mulattoes, providing for specific fines and imprisonment of up to three years.[16]

* Various laws from 1891 to 1959 segregated rail travel, streetcars, buses, all public carriers, race tracks, gaming establishments, polling places, washrooms in mines, tuberculosis hospitals, public schools and teachers' colleges.

* A poll tax was first imposed in the 1890s.

Florida

* "All marriages between a white person and a Negro, or between a white person and a person of Negro descent to the fourth generation inclusive, are hereby forever prohibited."

* "Any Negro man and white woman, or any white man and Negro woman, who are not married to each other, who shall habitually live in and occupy in the nighttime the same room shall each be punished by imprisonment not exceeding twelve (12) months, or by fine not exceeding five hundred ($500.00) dollars."

* "The schools for white children and the schools for Negro children shall be conducted separately."

Georgia

* "All persons licensed to conduct a restaurant, shall serve either white people exclusively or colored people exclusively and shall not sell to the two races within the same room or serve the two races anywhere under the same license."

* "It shall be unlawful for any amateur white baseball team to play baseball on any vacant lot or baseball diamond within two blocks of a playground devoted to the Negro race, and it shall be unlawful for any amateur colored baseball team to play baseball in any vacant lot or baseball diamond within two blocks of any playground devoted to the white race."

Kentucky

* "The children of white and colored races committed to the houses of reform shall be kept entirely separate from each other."

Louisiana

* "Any person who shall rent any part of any such building to a Negro person or a Negro family when such building is already in whole or in part in occupancy by a white person or white family, or vice versa when the building is in occupancy by a Negro person or Negro family, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and on conviction thereof shall be punished by a fine of not less than twenty-five ($25.00) nor more than one hundred ($100.00) dollars or be imprisoned not less than 10, or more than 60 days, or both such fine and imprisonment in the discretion of the court."

Maryland

* "All railroad companies and corporations, and all persons running or operating cars or coaches by steam on any railroad line or track in the State of Maryland, for the transportation of passengers, are hereby required to provide separate cars or coaches for the travel and transportation of the white and colored passengers."

Mississippi

* "Any person...who shall be guilty of printing, publishing or circulating printed, typewritten or written matter urging or presenting for public acceptance or general information, arguments or suggestions in favor of social equality or of intermarriage between whites and Negroes, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and subject to fine not exceeding five hundred (500.00) dollars or imprisonment not exceeding six (6) months or both."

Missouri

* "Separate free schools shall be established for the education of children of African descent; and it shall be unlawful for any colored child to attend any white school, or any white child to attend a colored school."

New Mexico

* "Separate rooms [shall] be provided for the teaching of pupils of African descent, and [when] said rooms are so provided, such pupils may not be admitted to the school rooms occupied and used by pupils of Caucasian or other descent."

North Carolina

* "Books shall not be interchangeable between the white and colored schools, but shall continue to be used by the race first using them. "

* "The state librarian is directed to fit up and maintain a separate place for the use of the colored people who may come to the library for the purpose of reading books or periodicals."

Oklahoma

* "The [Conservation] Commission shall have the right to make segregation of the white and colored races as to the exercise of rights of fishing, boating and bathing."

* "The baths and lockers for the negroes shall be separate from the white race, but may be in the same building."

* "The Corporation Commission is hereby vested with power and authority to require telephone companies... to maintain separate booths for white and colored patrons when there is a demand for such separate booths. That the Corporation Commission shall determine the necessity for said separate booths only upon complaint of the people in the town and vicinity to be served after due hearing as now provided by law in other complaints filed with the Corporation Commission."

South Carolina

* "No persons, firms, or corporations, who or which furnish meals to passengers at station restaurants or station eating houses, in times limited by common carriers of said passengers, shall furnish said meals to white and colored passengers in the same room, or at the same table, or at the same counter."

* "It shall be unlawful for any parent, relative, or other white person in this State, having the control or custody of any white child, by right of guardianship, natural or acquired, or otherwise, to dispose of, give or surrender such white child permanently into the custody, control, maintenance, or support, of a negro."

Texas

Twenty-seven Jim Crow laws were passed in the Lone Star state from 1866 to 1958. Some examples include:

* 1950: Separate facilities required for white and black citizens in state parks

* 1953: Public carriers to be segregated

* 1958: No child compelled to attend schools that are racially mixed. No desegregation unless approved by election. Governor may close schools where troops used on federal authority.

Virginia

* "Every person... operating... any public hall, theater, opera house, motion picture show or any place of public entertainment or public assemblage which is attended by both white and colored persons, shall separate the white race and the colored race and shall set apart and designate... certain seats therein to be occupied by white persons and a portion thereof, or certain seats therein, to be occupied by colored persons."

* "The conductors or managers on all such railroads shall have power, and are hereby required, to assign to each white or colored passenger his or her respective car, coach or compartment. If the passenger fails to disclose his race, the conductor and managers, acting in good faith, shall be the sole judges of his race."

West Virginia

* "White and colored persons shall not be taught in the same school."

This point-blank requirement for segregated schools was proclaimed in West Virginia's State Constitution as Article XII Section 8. In a remarkable show of the persistence of segregationist attitudes extending to the highest levels of state government, numerous attempts to remove this article from the constitution were defeated in the state legislature until it was finally repealed on Nov 8, 1994.

Posted by: Audacity | April 29, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Ooopss Obamba wants a do over and hope to win. But doesn't he not believe in HOPE. Now he can go back to being a second rate senator from the great state of Ill...

Posted by: Robinhood | April 29, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Now.

What about the preacher associated with McCain?

Doesn't that count?

Oh, that's right. The "liberal" media only focuses on McCain's preacher.


So many of you you are hypocrites.

And racists!

Posted by: Mike of Atlanta | April 29, 2008 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a liar. His campaign is predicated on a lie. He pledged he would serve out his senate term. He didn't.

He listened to the rabid and disgusting hate speech hurled out by Wright for 20 years.

NOW he is saddened.

What a crock.

It looks like Obama and Clinton are running neck and neck in the lie department.

So much for change, eh?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Reverend Wright's new book:

The Audacity of Obama

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

And lastly I want to add this:

Jim Crow laws (local and state laws that mandated "seperate but equal") we're outlawed by the federal government until 1965.

Than means that only 43 years ago black people were still treated as second class citizens. Don't forget that. Equality was fought for, and many black men and women who are alive today were alive back then. They're not going to just forget that. Our white grand parents stood by and let all kinds of terrible atrocities and lynchings happen for not just years, but for centuries. So before all of you republicans get all angry about pittances like "Affirmative Action" take a step back and realize that this country was overtly racist for 200+ years straight.

Mr. Wright's comments may have been negative for white's - but hey, it's not like he enslaved them for two centuries.

Posted by: Audacity | April 29, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

I must admit I am continually amused at the notion that JC spending 6 years being held prisoner some how entitles him to a monopoly on morality. I have to say I wonder if someone who spent that much time in prison has a monopoly on sanity. Have you ever known someone who has been in prison for years? That kind of thing does something to someone. He's a tired old man and more of the same anyways, and Hilldog is right behind. Wouldn't it be shocking if the best candidate actually got elected for once?

Posted by: Dr. Gonzo | April 29, 2008 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Whoever thought to attribute those 4,000 deaths in America to Obama's absence from a congressional committee is in serious need of a life. Obama didn't support the war in Iraq and spoke out openly against it. The responsibility for those deaths lies squarely with George Bush and Dick Cheney.

Posted by: purplehawk | April 29, 2008 11:50 PM | Report abuse

This blog should probably be closed. This isn't free speech, it's an orgy of idiocy.

Posted by: EPthorn | April 29, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

when does he disavow his white grandma?

Posted by: hithere | April 29, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Betty: It is very insulting that Obama expects the voters to believe that just now, he finally "outraged" by Rev. Wright. Interestingly, the things said by Rev. Wright over the last couple of days were pretty much what we all know he has said before. The only thing different that I picked up was when Rev. Wright twice said that Obama says what he has to say, because he is a politician. So, what is the lesson of today's denouncement by Obama? I think it is that Rev. Wright can say anything he wants about white people and America, but if he dares "diss" Obama, then Obama is "OUTRAGED." This latest act by Obama is self-serving damage control, and nothing more.

Posted by: James | April 29, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse

This is not the first time Wright said what he said. Mr. Obama has been listening to all of it for a long time. If he is truely the healer of all race like he said, you would thought he will be a little sick of it a while ago. Instead, he only mildly distanced himself when he need to, like the time he decided to run for the Presidency becaue he thought it might be a problem for him. What is the first reaction when the media brought out Wright's speeach before? He try to explain it and "put it into the correct prespective" instead of do the right thing and denounce it as the racist calling that it is. Why, take a guess... he still wants Wright's follower's support for one and maybe, just maybe he himself also has a little race based idea and believe most if not all Wright's idea. Mr. Obama is not a nut case. Most men with some education and brain cannot believe things like Wright's AIDS idea. But face it, he does believe the society is putting down his fellow Black African brothers. Just look back at his wife's true thought. In her own slip, probably caused by the high at the idea of her being the first lady (like Hillary when Bill puts her in charge of health care reform the first time, yea... I am not the figure head first lady like everyone else think)... She made clear her race based thought... "Now is the first time in my life, I am proud of being a American." She is only proud because her Black Men can finally have the ablility to do what all you other people has done to them, from within the system...ha..

So do you still want to vote for Mr. Obama? The one who really have not said how he will bring us change or what type of change? The man who is not really a "COO" by his own words but just need to come up with the right idea? BTW, what idea? Any one of you know? Can it be tax everyone and welfare socialism with just a bit of Black Power?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Beekeeper, you're right I asked myself that exact question: "What about our foreign policy made somebody hate us enough to do such a thing." It's an important question to ask. The answer may very well be "Nothing". Still, in the Platonic style of philosophy I like to think about things in this way.

I don't know about free spirited, or ungrounded - I work 60 hours a week, I don't watch TV, and I investigate thoroughly.

Still at the end of the day I believe that all men are created equal. I believe that the only reason why countries war is because of the selfishness and inhumanity of it's leaders - not it's citizens. Finally I know for a fact that God wants us all to be at peace with each other.

It's our duty as sentient creatures to bring peace and balance to this planet and to spread life and harmony throughout the universe. I think Obama strives towards that mentality.

All in all I think Mr. McCain is a good man, better than most of what the republican party has to offer, but honestly the Republican party is too closely associated with a small sect of right wing Christian extremism for my taste. People with bumper stickers that read, "In Case of Rapture this vehicle will be unmanned", are the types I'm referring to.

Posted by: Audacity | April 29, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, Gonzo, I didn't mean to imply anything. I meant to be very clear that Wright is EXACTLY analogous to Duke. They both spew racial hate mixed with an enormous amount of ignorance.

You can try to justify Wright's POV with personal suffering and past atrocities, but only a true bigot blames an entire race. After all, white men may have enslaved blacks, but hundreds of thousands of whites died freeing them.

Posted by: jtom | April 29, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse

After belonging to Rev. Wright's church for 20 years, Sen. Obama now finds the reverands positions unacceptable? The fact that Obama felt the need to hold a conference about this is very, very telling. He sees his support slipping. The media and others aren't as enamoured with him as they were.

He was a member for 20 years! That represents a very long and deep relationship. So, just NOW, Sen. Obama thinks Wright is divisive, antiethical, contradictory, and exploitive? After he's had the support of the church to become a U.S. senator? Please. . . .

Posted by: Wilson | April 29, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

The story is nearly 2000 years old: Student/follower/disciple denies his mentor/teacher/pastor in order to save his own skin: Barack "Peter" Obama. What a typical dishonest politician: he will do anything to get elected. If he really disagreed with Wright he would have denounced him this forcefully years ago, or at a minimum have denounced him forcefully a month ago when it first came up. No instead he tries to explain/legitimize Wright's views. Now when his candidacy is about to go down in flames he denounces him. What I low life, dishonest politician.

I may disagree with McCain's Republican philosophy, but at least he is honest. Sad, sad day.

Posted by: Enlightened | April 29, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Hypocrisy ?????????????

I did not see Rev. Wright utter any new outrageous comment yesterday than we have heard from him earlier from the Pulpit. The only thing new was that, he suggested Mr. Obama was being a politician for the stand he took. Now Mr. Obama is ready to finally denounce Rev. Wright. I guess what offends Mr. Obama most is not the fact that Rev. Wright questioned the basic fabric of the United States of America but rather him being called a politician. I guess this election is after all not about the American people but about the candidates like Mr.Obama.

Hypocrisy indeed !!!!!!!!

Posted by: Karan, Dallas | April 29, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

O-baaaa-ma,
O-ba-ma, you'll see,
he floats like a butterfly,
and stings like a bee!

Obama is still the champ!
Barack is baaaaak!

Posted by: martin edwin andersen | April 29, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Judgment comes to a different one about Wright after twenty years. His keen insight may be a little slow.

When the phone rings at 3 AM, he'll reach a decision after he polls the public and gets a good feeling from his finger in the wind.

Posted by: Ed | April 29, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

A previous poster wrote this: "If you can still re-register as Democrat in your State, do that -- new orders may be issued prior to the primary -- Operation CHAOS Rules!!!
"


New orders?

You're a mindless idiot who can't think for herself.

Posted by: Mike of Atlanta | April 29, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

No thank you Beekeeper,
For showing the world how ignorant you are. If more of "those liberals" had been in power over the past 30 years 911 would have never happened because the world wouldn't consider us a bunch of stupid arrogant dueche bags.

Posted by: Dr. Gonzo | April 29, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Wright's a pretty dynamic speaker, the AIDS crap is indeed outrageous, but he is right Obama is in the end, a posturing politician, are not they all? Wright, (who looks white to me) is a clever, wealthy, preacher, who indeed does represent what the black church thinks (Wright's Black church))..not all Black churches but indeed his own.

Posted by: Carl | April 29, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Next year at this time, when Obama is history, and his black supporters realized he was embarrassment to the black cause, anyone mentioning the name "Obama" will be met with an uplifted middle finger and a terse: "Obama yo mamma!"

Posted by: NRG | April 29, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse

And it was the CLINTONS who paid Wright to spill his hate. Aren't they amazing?

Posted by: Jeff Wagner | April 29, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry jtom,
I may be high but are you implying Rev. Wright is somehow analogous to David Duke? I can't get over the bs people's minds are full of on these blogs...

Posted by: Dr. Gonzo | April 29, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

let's face it -- wright is no more stupid than the usual bunch of Sunday idiots. I'm glad Obama has denounced him, but he's still a whole lot better than Falwell, Robertson and the filthy Billy Graham.

Posted by: jeff wagner | April 29, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

I have a question that keeps going through my mind. 'How can someone who has know someone for 20years and listened to them preach hundreds of times not know how they think and feel about something' To put it bluntly, how can Obama standup with a straight face and say he never heard any sermons like Rev. Wright gave at the NAACP and Press Club???? Doesn't pass the smell test to me. Sorry if this offends anyone, but that is what has been going through my mind of late!

Posted by: gcbfred | April 29, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Audacity wrote:

"Who is Mr. Wright? He is an American, one who thinks as many, though thankfully not all, Americans do. He is angry and distrustful. He thinks the moon landing is a hoax. He thinks the government was behind 911. He thinks that the powers that be favor white over black."

"Should we get angry at those thoughts? Or should we take a step back and ask our selves, "What did our government do that led some people to feel this way?"

Thanks Audacity, for showing some of us exactly what kind of ungrounded, free-spirited, guilt-ridden followers are attracted to Obama. I'm sure you were one of the large group of liberals who asked "What did we do wrong?" and "Why do they hate us?" right after 9-11.

Posted by: Beekeeper | April 29, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

To say 90% of us sound like 12-year -olds
is an insult to 12-year olds. This is what the win at all cost America has brought us to. Everybody needs to stop the insult slinging and stick to the issues.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Sometimes it's better to rise above the fray...in other words, just ignore the shrill self serving public efforts at image rehabilitation.

What Obama did today, is sadly political posturing.

In many ways, it's insulting to African Americans and denigrates Obama's public integrity because the evidence shows, since he was a member of Rev. Wright's congregation for 20 years, that this is purely a political move.

This is sad, even for Hillary supporters, since in truth, the real differences between the candidates speaks volumes.

The truth is, Obama's campaign been marketing genius. But there are real reasons for doubting, but they have nothing to do with his minister.

There are other issues of hypocrisy worth noting within the Obama campaign:
http://www.politicalcortex.com/story/2008/4/19/182319/814

Posted by: Cody Lyon | April 29, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

For those who dismiss the relevance of Wright to Obama's campaign:

In your hear of hearts, could you ever support someone who sat in a pew every week for seventeen years, listening to David Duke give a sermon?

Posted by: jtom | April 29, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

The dollar will not buy me food or gas if we keep letting the Debt go Up to China and Saudi Arabia We have to stop the endless spending on war and with out taxes to replace the money or I will be to poor to care about this country any more or myself for that matter


We must get off the BUSH CREDIT CARD SPENDING

or watch oil and food and steel and copper eat every penny we make

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

I've a question for you smitten.

Why is he coming out with this SO LATE when he had every chance at each debate to address this issue.

Now, I've a question for you Farakkkan lovers.


How are YOU going to handle that one?


I've an answer for you...De Nile.

see...you can now fall back in love.


just think about it and how this will impact upon those who are sitting on that fence...

i'm talking about the ones who are NOT IN LOVE and who
OUTNUMBER US...

Posted by: jatox | April 29, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

To the fine lady who keeps spamming this board with hundreds of:

[b]HILLARY 08, FOR ME, VOTE FOR HER TO SHUT ME UP!!![/b]

You're giving many of us 2nd thoughts about wanting to vote for a woman who has seriously ill and retarded supporters like you. Take a pill.

Posted by: Psycologist | April 29, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Pastor Wright has proven to me that he is strictly scriptural. Nothing he has said goes against what a Christian should believe. I don't even attend his church, but what I've learned from Bishop Larry Harris... Pastor Wright said exactly what my pastor would have said and kept it totally scriptural.

It's funny how non-believers always want to twist what the scriptures say and never want to admit what the "Truth" has to say. For the press that asked the questions... do your research and get into Jesus. He is the "way", the "truth" and the "light"...

And as for Obama, he is a politician and seperating himself from the only "truth" that can save him isn't the way to go. He should rethink his commitment to God and let God fight the battle for him. Obama... stop running from God and run to Him. After all, it is He who will answer your hearts desires... not man.

Posted by: A Believer... | April 29, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Only in America can a candidate running for president be condemned for what his former pastor said as opposed to those who voted for the Iraq War. Only in America.

Posted by: Woody | April 29, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Paul -- never mind the impact of $4 gasoline, stagnant wages, a war without end, skyrocketing health care and education costs, or 8 years of the most disastrous presidency in U.S. history.

Those are clearly not the key factors in the current domestic discontent.

Posted by: JP2 | April 29, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

I believe that Barack and the people who follow him have good hearts, want the best for humanity, and want to see this country become a bastion for hope, honesty, brotherhood, and compassion. That's why I will vote for him.

Posted by: Audacity | April 29, 2008 11:15 PM | Report abuse

A significant portion of the tax paying American populace doesn't feel represented by their own representative government. More over the majority of those same people actually feel a genuine distrust for the officials running the democracy they live under. I like Rush Limbaugh for the most part, both as an entertainer and radio personality, but the man has been the mouth piece for a group of politicians that are considered the world over to be Evil. Not just idiots. Not just bad politicians. Evil. Siren's should be going off in all of our heads at that. Even if Bush is a saint and Murphy's law has just screwed him royally we still need to ask the question why is he and the republican party seen as Evil and money grubbing by such a large percentage of people?

Who is Mr. Wright? He is an American, one who thinks as many, though thankfully not all, Americans do. He is angry and distrustful. He thinks the moon landing is a hoax. He thinks the government was behind 911. He thinks that the powers that be favor white over black.

Should we get angry at those thoughts? Or should we take a step back and ask our selves, "What did our government do that led some people to feel this way?"

For those of you who would rather see McCain or Clinton win think on this: people who like Barack like him because they think he's not completely Evil and they think that the other two candidates are to some varying degree.

Baracks inexperience is seen as good not bad. His supporters believe that he actually cares. That's really it. They don't care about his plans or policies - the plans and policies of HRC or JM still have to go through the House and Senate.

In short the president is just one person. But with him comes a cabinet and a whole army of personal - what do those people stand for?

Posted by: Audacity | April 29, 2008 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Word Vera, droppin' the knowledge. Hatred and fear is what make this place go round. Troubling...

Posted by: Dr. Gonzo | April 29, 2008 11:14 PM | Report abuse

It doesn't matter what Mr. Obama does to denounce REV. Wright. I would estimate that 80% of the people talking shi***t about Obama wasn't going to vote for him anyway. So keep your trash talking to yourself. Most of you don't like black people and probably never will. So, Mr. Obama hasn't lost any votes...think about it.

Posted by: Grow up | April 29, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

O-baaaa-ma,
O-ba-ma, you'll see,
he floats like a butterfly,
and stings like a bee!

Obama is still the champ!
Barack is b-a-a-a-k!

Posted by: Martin Edwin Andersen | April 29, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

we are all dust at some point its just how we get there and how soon maybe sooner is better

Go McCain

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

The only reason to vote for this guy is because he is black, criticize other people mistake, and the fact that he and the news media consistently covers up his bad track record; because according to reports since occupying public office he has done nothing. Yet supporters sell him as John Kennedy, Martin Luther King.

Posted by: cars | April 29, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Pastor Wright has proven to me that he is strictly scriptural. Nothing he has said goes against what a Christian should believe. I don't even attend his church, but what I've learned from Bishop Larry Harris... Pastor Wright said exactly what my pastor would have said and kept it totally scriptural. It's funny how non-believers always want to twist what the scriptures say and never want to admit what the "Truth" has to say. For the press that asked the questions... do your research and get into Jesus. He is the "way", the "truth" and the "light"...

Posted by: A Believer... | April 29, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

90% of you sound like a bunch of 12-year -olds with your copying and repeating. Go back and read your posts. They make no sense and a lot of them are rude and include sexual innuendos. Grow up. Think a little. Get off the computer and read a book.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Oh Vera....but Hillary has been held to this scrutiny. Barack is just now being held to the same standard. I wonder how it makes him feel? Pretty petty is it? He and his supporters are whiny now that the game is not going their way.

Posted by: PZ | April 29, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Obama "strikes back." He "strongly criticizes Rev. Wright." Listen to the news and you'd think Obama is all fired up and on the attack.

He isn't. And you have to actually listen to his speech to know that. Obama, as usual, is taking the "high road," the "gentlemanly" path, quite mildly chastising his beloved ex-reverend, using a few strong words. Just words: there was no fire in his voice, no anger in his eyes. There were times when he was lost for words, even a little absent-minded.

And, really, when you think about it, the Rev. Wright said nothing different in these past few days. He is giving the same sermons that Obama ignored for 20 years. What is different is that he is preaching to the nation now. And in the process, during these final days of the primaries, embarrassing Obama.

Obama has not shown a real strength of character, nor the fire in his belly we are looking for in a Presidential candidate. And his campaign does not hold the Presidential promise of unifying the American people. Rather, he seems to be opening what appears to be a flood gate for domestic discontent. And he doesn't seem to have any control over it.

Posted by: paul taylor | April 29, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Ya she would never like dislike her buddy Dick Morris

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

If Shill or McCainiac are prez, did I mention we are all radioactive TOAST?

Posted by: dON | April 29, 2008 11:09 PM | Report abuse

How self serving for BHO at this stage in the game. Can you imagine what he would say if Hillary denounced some one or something that she had been supporting for 20 years. Unbelievable acting game so he can stay in the game.

Posted by: PZ | April 29, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Well, Obama didn't pretend you're as dumb as bricks but you're doing a pretty good job of making that a true statement! This petty crap just sickens me! I can't believe people with the mentality that I see on this board are even PERMITTED to vote! It certainly is a frightening thought to think some of you represent America! All of you Obama-haters...have you asked yourself why you don't hold Clinton and McCain to this same scrutiny? Have you asked yourselves if there's to be some big conspiracy that Barack will do something against Whites, then why does he have so many Whites in his corner? Are they all in on it, too?

Cowards, Cowards, Cowards! All of you are so spineless with your fear and prejudices that you latch onto something that's meaningless! His pastor is no one I'd vote for office and last I checked, his paster isn't on the ballot anywhere!

You need to go look in the mirror and take a good long look at yourselves. Ask yourselves why your hate rules your mind? Ask yourselves why your fear of someone who doesn't look like you will be the factor that you will vote against your own best interests.

You must like having your jobs taken away, and not being able to afford gas and getting the shaft by insurance companies. You must LOVE that our soldiers are dying for a needless cause and that thousands of people are being killed in a war our country started!

All of this misery...brought upon yourselves and others in the country because of YOUR fear! PATHETIC!

Posted by: Vera | April 29, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

all 6000 white folks that go to that
church have violated HOMELAND SECURITY

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

sd wrote: "It's unthinkable to me that we are allowing college kids to decide who the next president is."

And yet college age kids are fighting and dying overseas to defend your right to vote. Shame on you, sd.

Posted by: gerry | April 29, 2008 11:07 PM | Report abuse

WE NEED TO LOCK UP THOSE WHITE FOLKS THAT GO TO THAT CHURCH

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Posted by: YOU GO GIRL!!! | April 29, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Wright may not have said anything new, but he was apparently able to perform a miracle during his last speech. Suddenly Obama can hear.

Posted by: SoularEnergy | April 29, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

HEs Not black

he my brother

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama went to a "Black Supermisist" Church for 20 years and donated over $50,000 to them.

Want to know more about "Black Liberation Theology?"

Go to Asia Times Online --

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JC18Aa01.html

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: CHELSEA'S FRIEND | April 29, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Look at the responses to this article! Some mean, some supporting, some just...stupid.

I believe Sen. Obama is not "faking" indignation, I would be upset too if I were in the same situation and I would not have been so kind to my preacher, reverend, bishop, or pastor, had they said the things Wright said. I do agree with one thing and that was the comment about Cheney. That was pretty good. Other than that, Wright was not very kind or supporting, in fact he was...stupid.

Now about the Presidential candidates. Let's take a long hard look. You've got a mean spirited woman who'd do anything to win. After all didn't the Clintons warm to the phrase "tell them anyting they want as long as you win?" Hillary has run a sophmoric, scuz-ball campaign from the git-go and her ex-prez husband has lost all credibility he built up after his two terms in office. Er, well beside the fact that he did get a presidential blow-job and turned on the U.S. teen population to the fact that a blow job was no longer sex...Thanks Bill.

The next would be the oldest man in history, should he become President. Every president has aged under the stress of office. Yes, even George, but has anyone ever thought what the torture did to McCain's mind? We can see the physical effects, but what about his mind? Oh yeah, Hero, blah, blah. God forbid if we criticize McCain for his service, but what about the other million plus vets getting the shaft from McCain over the GI bill? I guess their collective service is for naught?

Finally, we have this guy who says "and" a lot, but he's smart, intelligent, articulate and can put two words together that form a meaningful thoughtful sentence. He admits to youthful foibles, but nothing that 75% of the country tried when they were young too. He has a deep christian conviction, he's struggled to get a good educaiont and he's proven himself in his state and in the senate. Oh, I forgot...he's black. There I said it and you know what? Anyone who let's that be a factor for not voting for the guys is frankly...stupid.

Posted by: Ahsay | April 29, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

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... incite racial hatred against Muslims!

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

I been down so long

that there is no place to go but up

Eric Clapton

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: I FINALLY SHUT UP | April 29, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Common Man:

"Is is remotely conceivable that his church would award its highest honor to Louis Farrhakan without getting the absolute support and approval from its most important member?"

Yes -- it is absolutely conceivable.

This would be a little like saying that the Catholic diocese in DC of which Kennedy is a member must seek his approval in awards that it gives out. Doesn't happen.

Those kind of theories are only a notch below Rev. Wright's beliefs about the AIDs virus. Not by much though.

Posted by: JP2 | April 29, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

isn't it funny, when Obama refused to throw his former pastor under the bus, you guys all screamed he was a racist, now he reacted to Wrights ranting in the press this weekend, you know call him a hypocrite for reacting to Wright's continous radical behavior. I am curious, are you guys just bitter or is there really some other undertone reason, that you bigotic minded people are refuse to reveal. This is the fact, the Clintons divided the country into an angry divide of republicans and democrats, now they have suceeded in dividing the democratic party.
Vote Obama and lets heal our country

Posted by: danielle | April 29, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

god, it's like hearing an insane person babbling to themselves, as they kick newspapers down the street:

again, The Clinton demographics favor the un-educated.
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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Steve Chan --

Do you know what "Black Liberation Theology" Churches say about asians?

If not, look it up.

If so, how can you support this guy?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Did we mention that Obama is toast?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:56 PM | Report abuse

HERE IS THE BOTTOM LINE:

Unless you are a complete idiot, you will vote for whichever democrat wins regardless of your passion for either one. It is people stupid enough to vote McCain because their dem didn't win who truly epitomize the rampant ignorance in this country. The only thing worse are those sadly masochistic lower-class Republicans.(The world weeps for your ineptitude.)

Excuse me while I go take a massive bong hit, my head hurts from listenin to all you haters.

Posted by: Dr. Gonzo | April 29, 2008 10:56 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: DOMINATRESS | April 29, 2008 10:56 PM | Report abuse

backward countdown
296 to win at 2025 Obama
4033 to 2025 Clinton
408 Elected 295 supers

go obama

Posted by: math man | April 29, 2008 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone noticed that the democratic party has completely lost its mind??

When did this happen??

I think it happened when Biden and Dodd were unable to compete for fundraising cash.


Posted by: Words of Wisdom | April 29, 2008 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Obama's done America a great service by exposing the horrible cult of "Black Liberation Theology"

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

It seems that the politics of personal destruction is alive and well. One cheer for the Clintons. However, if she "wins" the nomination this way, be careful, as it may bring her the same destruction as well. Is she really as "vetted" as she thinks she is? Are all the dirts really out yet?

Posted by: Steve Chan, Los Altos Hills | April 29, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

The Clinton demographics favor the un-educated.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: RAVING LUNATIC CHIC | April 29, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

i was brainwash by CNN and I can no longer vote unless they tell me it ok and who to vote for

i can't feel my feet any more my kids look different food taste bad

i see Crazy bums preaching at me and run

my ears ring with a high piched sound when i try to think for myself

this is normal now right?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Obama is under attack from people who are not really intersted in uniting Americans or getting past the race division, the likes of Clinton and Rev Wright who are using the race card to the destroy the works of others who are out to move past the race issues ..

Posted by: vivien koech | April 29, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Obama has shown beyond the shadow of a doubt that he is not qualified to be a US Senator, let alone President.

We will be honored to vote against his race-based campaign.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Hey, just keep babbling it over and over, and ...just maybe.... you'll convince yourself.

...the fact remains..that regardless of the up-coming primaries...

Obama has the most delegates

(maybe you should try and get used to it...I know it's hard...to face the facts)

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Oh wow - I guess there's more white people than I thought! I'd better take a shot at the Rev, now!!!!!!

Sincerely,
Osama

Posted by: The Truth | April 29, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

WHAT WILL I DO WITH MY TIME WHEN HILLARY LOSES?

MAYBE I CAN GO GET MY CAPS LOCK KEY FIXED.

I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN INVENT LIES ABOUT OTHERS.

AND SAY GO HILLARY.

I AM MAKING EVERYONE HATE HILLARY BECAUSE OF MY MEDICATION INDUCED RANTS.

I AM TO HILLARY WHAT WRIGHT IS TO OBAMA.

I RANT AND RAVE AND MAKE EVERYONE READ MY LOUD NONSENSE UNTIL THEY HATE MY CANDIDATE.

HILLARY WILL LOSE.

THAT IS CERTAIN TO ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN.

I REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS FACT BECAUSE I AM EMOTIONALLY DRIVEN TO SEE A WOMAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE, THROUGH WHICH I CAN RULE THE NATION VICARIOUSLY.

I AM NOT MENTALLY WELL, BUT I CAN TYPE, SO THAT'S WHAT I DO... NON-STOP!!!!

HILLARY O8, EVEN THOUGH THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, HILLARY 08

DID I MENTION HILLARY O8?

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Posted by: WITHOUT A WOMAN PRES, MY LIFE IS WORTHLESS | April 29, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

It's about time Obama stepped up to the plate and put this guy in his place.

Posted by: balvenie122 | April 29, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

I can't be convinced otherwise: Obama has backed himself into a political corner over Wright and has no choice but to denounce him in hopes it will save his run for the presidency. I will not believe that he or his wife (and maybe especially his wife) have not come to believe some or all of what Wright has said (didn't his wife say something about not being proud of America not too long ago??). I don't want her as a First Lady, and I think Obama sways with the wind. He's run out of new things to say and is sounding flat. He sees his numbers falling and he has to take a stand, or lose. It's all political.
Like I've said before, I can't understand the urgency he has to become President of the USA with the lack of experience he has.

Posted by: ALM | April 29, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

In his recent and (finally) definitive denunciation of Wright, Obama shows that he is able to grow on a personal level and rethink the world and the relationships from which he has emerged. It is a difficult and admirable thing that he has done, recognizing change on a personal level. I hope it should be enough to demonstrate to the Democratic voting bloc that his personal capacity to grow and change is applicable to the enactment of change on a national level.

Posted by: Anon | April 29, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

It's common knowledge that Barack Obama was the most well-known and politically significant person at Wright's church. He was a celebrity. He was their star member.

Rev. Wright was, by Obama's words, his mentor, spiritual guide, and close friend.

Is is remotely conceivable that his church would award its highest honor to Louis Farrhakan without getting the absolute support and approval from its most important member? Obama clearly knew what was going down. The Dems and libs didn't care and believed whatever story Obama fed them about this disgraceful selection. They were satisfied he was "surpised," like the rest of his church.

Obama is what he is. But his supporters have let America down, big time!

Posted by: Common Man | April 29, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Obama's denunciation will be turned on its head by Republicans.

By saying that it was only the things that Wright said yesterday that bothered him, Obama is admitting that he agreed with what Wright has said before that.

We appreciate Obama showing us what Black people have been saying behind white people's backs.

We will no longer go out of our way to help Black people now that we know that they blame Whites for all their problems, and more.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Hammer and Sickle and JP2,

You both need to look up the definitons of
Communisim and Socialism. None of the candidates running are even close.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

WHAT WILL I DO WITH MY TIME WHEN HILLARY LOSES?

MAYBE I CAN GO GET MY CAPS LOCK KEY FIXED.

I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN INVENT LIES ABOUT OTHERS.

AND SAY GO HILLARY.

I AM MAKING EVERYONE HATE HILLARY BECAUSE OF MY MEDICATION INDUCED RANTS.

I AM TO HILLARY WHAT WRIGHT IS TO OBAMA.

I RANT AND RAVE AND MAKE EVERYONE READ MY LOUD NONSENSE UNTIL THEY HATE MY CANDIDATE.

HILLARY WILL LOSE.

THAT IS CERTAIN TO ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN.

I REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS FACT BECAUSE I AM EMOTIONALLY DRIVEN TO SEE A WOMAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE, THROUGH WHICH I CAN RULE THE NATION VICARIOUSLY.

I AM NOT MENTALLY WELL, BUT I CAN TYPE, SO THAT'S WHAT I DO... NON-STOP!!!!

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Posted by: I AM A BULLY WHO HIDES BEHIND KEYBOARD | April 29, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

counting flowers on the wall does't bother me at all.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Interesting, Hillary and McCain didn't have to lift a finger. Cable news has swiftboated Obama for their own ratings and to make sure that ALL candidates understand that THE MEDIA(not the voters) have the power to decide who is elected to any office in this country.

I'd been away from TV for sev. days, and this AM when I turned on CNN, I would have thought that Obama's defeat, due to his association with this senile crazy nutbag, was already a fact. I esp. enjoy the "Republican strategists" who are allowed to weigh in on this subject as if they are unbiased observers.

What baloney. This country is ONCE AGAIN going to fail to select the best, most capable person for the job of President. Not because of anything that person did or failed to do, but because of the sheer hysteria whipped up by the corporate media.

Posted by: Susan E. | April 29, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Just out of curiosity, how does the Black Community feel about this?

A statement is being made here. Obama either agrees with Wright (his first response), or is against him (second), or are we going to see some real political slicing and dicing and let maybe Wright be declared crazy but he makes some good points?

Posted by: Comment | April 29, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Actually, we're not scared at all, nor are we conservatives.

We are white liberals that will never vote for Obama and that will never support any special pro-Black causes anymore.

Obama has set race relations back 50 years.

Obama is welcome to 100% of the Black vote.

He's not going to get any of the White vote once people know what "Black Liberation Theology" is and the fact that Obama went to a church based on it for 20 years.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:47 PM | Report abuse

White Americans will never vote for an Afro-american president. It's just too much for their egos.

Posted by: npf | April 29, 2008 10:47 PM | Report abuse

WHAT WILL I DO WITH MY TIME WHEN HILLARY LOSES?

MAYBE I CAN GO GET MY CAPS LOCK KEY FIXED.

I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN INVENT LIES ABOUT OBAMA.

AND SAY GO HILLARY.

I AM MAKING EVERYONE HATE HILLARY BECAUSE OF MY MEDICATION INDUCED RANTS.

I AM TO HILLARY WHAT WRIGHT IS TO OBAMA.

I RANT AND RAVE AND MAKE EVERYONE READ MY LOUD NONSENSE UNTIL THEY HATE MY CANDIDATE.

HILLARY WILL LOSE.

THAT IS CERTAIN TO ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN.

I REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS FACT BECAUSE I AM EMOTIONALLY DRIVEN TO SEE A WOMAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE, THROUGH WHICH I CAN RULE THE NATION VICARIOUSLY.

I AM NOT MENTALLY WELL, BUT I CAN TYPE, SO THAT'S WHAT I DO... NON-STOP!!!!

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Posted by: I HAVE A VIBRATOR LOOKS LIKE HILLARY | April 29, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

WHAT WILL I DO WITH MY TIME WHEN HILLARY LOSES?

MAYBE I CAN GO GET MY CAPS LOCK KEY FIXED.

I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN INVENT LIES ABOUT OBAMA.

AND SAY GO HILLARY.

I AM MAKING EVERYONE HATE HILLARY BECAUSE OF MY MEDICATION INDUCED RANTS.

I AM TO HILLARY WHAT WRIGHT IS TO OBAMA.

I RANT AND RAVE AND MAKE EVERYONE READ MY LOUD NONSENSE UNTIL THEY HATE MY CANDIDATE.

HILLARY WILL LOSE.

THAT IS CERTAIN TO ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN.

I REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS FACT BECAUSE I AM EMOTIONALLY DRIVEN TO SEE A WOMAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE, THROUGH WHICH I CAN RULE THE NATION VICARIOUSLY.

I AM NOT MENTALLY WELL, BUT I CAN TYPE, SO THAT'S WHAT I DO... NON-STOP!!!!

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Posted by: I AM INSANE | April 29, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Wow, alot of anger. Being in politics I am amazed at how people believe the absolute worst about people in office. Hillary believes she can help the country because she understands the issues. Barak believes he can change the country by bringing people together. John believes in fundamental republican principals of free choice. Its that simple. Vote good luck.

Posted by: Econ teacher | April 29, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Fearless white liberal

here

one those Eternity Huggers

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

"In This thread: Scared racist conservative white people.

Posted by: HarHar | April 29, 2008 10:38 PM"


No, just scared conservative people, and some scared moderates and liberals too.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

WHAT WILL I DO WITH MY TIME WHEN HILLARY LOSES?

MAYBE I CAN GO GET MY CAPS LOCK KEY FIXED.

I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN INVENT LIES ABOUT OBAMA.

AND SAY GO HILLARY.

I AM MAKING EVERYONE HATE HILLARY BECAUSE OF MY MEDICATION INDUCED RANTS.

I AM TO HILLARY WHAT WRIGHT IS TO OBAMA.

I RANT AND RAVE AND MAKE EVERYONE READ MY LOUD NONSENSE UNTIL THEY HATE MY CANDIDATE.

HILLARY WILL LOSE.

THAT IS CERTAIN TO ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN.

I REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS FACT BECAUSE I AM EMOTIONALLY DRIVEN TO SEE A WOMAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE, THROUGH WHICH I CAN RULE THE NATION VICARIOUSLY.

I AM NOT MENTALLY WELL, BUT I CAN TYPE, SO THAT'S WHAT I DO... NON-STOP!!!!

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DID I MENTION HILLARY O8?

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Posted by: CRAZY WOMAN | April 29, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Too many comments.

Posted by: Andrew | April 29, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

The truth, folks, is that the Democratic party has never been more divided in American history. The media is trying to dig up as much dirt as they can about the other candidate. Soon, you will probably see news about Hillary doing God knows what. On another note, I am getting SO TIRED about some of you people taking everyone's points and accusing them of being rascist. GROW UP, people. This is 2008. If Obama is trying to "bring America together", then you can start by not accusing everyone of being rascist when they're complaining about Obama. I don't like Barack because he's black, or has a Muslim origin, but because what he does is so stupid, and I'm not saying this out of insanity, or because I'm "clining to my guns and religion". The same goes for Hillary. Contrary to Elton John's accusations, I don't like her just for the fact of her gender. And the same goes for McCain. Him being old is not a reason to dislike him. Call me rascist, or sexist. I don't give a damn.

Posted by: Steve | April 29, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

It turns out, it was a Hillary Clinton supporter behind the Wright Press Club appearance. This is very typical of their Karl Rove inspired smears and fears campaign. When will their desperation end?

'Barbara Reynolds

A former editorial board member at USA Today, she runs something called Reynolds News Services and teaches ministry at the Howard University School of Divinity. (She is an ordained minister).

It also turns out that Reynolds - introduced Monday as a member of the National Press Club "who organized" the event - is an enthusiastic Hillary Clinton supporter.

On a blog linked to her Web site- www.reynoldsnews.com- Reynolds said in a February post: "My vote for Hillary in the Maryland primary was my way of saying thank you" to Clinton and her husband for the successes of Bill Clinton's presidency.'

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/columnists/louis/index.html

Posted by: KEVIN SCHMIDT | April 29, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

WE ARE ALL JUST ACTORS IN THE STAGE OF LIFE

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

One Obama promise that will NOT recover from the Wright flap is that he will unite the country instead of dividing it. But whoever said that the American political system is supposed to produce unity? On the contrary, it functions by divisions: there are two parties and we have elections and one party wins and the other loses. The net effect of Jeremiah Wright's deliberate sabotage of Barack's chances is to make whites wonder about how far they can trust any black not to hate them.

Posted by: Howard | April 29, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Anon 10:38 PM aka "svreader" in which state was Rev. Wright's name on the ballot?

Posted by: JP2 | April 29, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

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VOTE FOR MCCLINTON !

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

"Sen. Obama we love you know matter what. We will follow you to the end of the world. We all know the truth.

Posted by: me | April 29, 2008 3:31 PM"

Listen to the Obama supporters, they love him 'know' [sic] matter what. Sounds like your first crush when you were 13. No one can talk about his principles or achievements, he's right of there with Hannah Montana.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Obama is just acting. He is trying to distance himself from Wrignt in order to get white votes. 20 years with Wright, obviously Obama knows truly who this man is.
By the way I love the way CNN and MSNBC are now pretending to bash Obama over this issue, after doing a number on Hillary up to Pennsylvania election in order to prevent her from making great gains in popular votes against Obama. She was suppose to have a 20% point lead in Pennsylvania and ended up with only 10%, after weeks of bashing by these two channels. Please everyone who believe what I wrote about CNN and MSNBC, don't watch these channels. Thanks.

Posted by: akbar | April 29, 2008 10:39 PM | Report abuse

I just hope someone goes back to the OLD OLD GOP rule of pay as you go balance

And That will reduce the deficit that will casue the dollar to rebound for 50% of value and bring down oil and food

Stop the TAX CUTS DEVAULING AMERICA

STOP McSAME

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:39 PM | Report abuse

LEANZA CORNETT screamed: "THE ONLY THING WRIGHT HAS TO DO IS PROVIDE A PHOTO AND PROOF THAT OBAMA KNEW OF HIS VIEWS AND THAT WILL BE THE END OF OBAMA."
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Well, then I guess Obama is safe because nobody with a brain believes Obama shares Wright's controversial views.

The ignorant, desperate, hysterical and obsessive Obama bashing from morons like you has become hilarious!
I find it a bit to easy just to call someone a Moron without offering any counterpoint how very Sophist and unproductive. It would seem illogical to assume that the the man spent 20 years attending services and not actually listened to any of what was being said. Im not saying Obama shares his views, but if he didnt , then you think he would have found a different church to attend...just saying

Posted by: Ken | April 29, 2008 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Re: "Imagine Hillary's list of the over 4,000 who she sent to die in Iraq

Hypocrite."

That is so mean spirited.... That woman cried at the VA hospital...Cried!, seeing all those wounded vets from the war that she voted for...

I mean, SHE CRIED for God's sake!!!


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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:39 PM | Report abuse

When it was convenient for him to do it, he did it again. And it took a long time for him to do it. Why? because he believes in Wright. His decision is in o way consistent with his beliefs, it is just that for now beliefs has to take a back seat to being president. Twenty years of nothing? Ow, come on! It is just lurking in Michelle and your heart. It will not go away.
Believe me Obama, his wife and his kids are as brainwashed as the die hard communists. It is very dangerous not only for America but for the whole world to have him as president. He hates America and everything that it stands for. I cannot, in the life of me, why those who endorsed him cannot see it. Are they stupid or just plain stupid? Not much of choice in there, is there?

Posted by: Bob | April 29, 2008 10:39 PM | Report abuse

What's next reparations for slavery?
After 20 years the cardboard messiah
decides that he is outraged about statements like "KKK America" and the USMC is the same as the Roman Legionaires who
killed Christ. Me thinks he dost protest to late. HE IS A CANDY ARSE SISSY! Rev Sharpton and Charlie Rangol are more of a man than this sissy. Let's have them instead!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

In This thread: Scared racist conservative white people.

Posted by: HarHar | April 29, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Hammer and Sickle -- there's a difference between Communists and Socialists. Your detector needs some serious re-adjustment.

Posted by: JP2 | April 29, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

NEOCONS --

YOU ARE A TOTAL IDIOT. OBAMA VOTED FOR THE WAR EVERY SINGLE TIME.

OBAMA NEVER VOTED AGAINST THE WAR.

DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE GUY YOU'RE PUSHING?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Obama quite likely was never the avid church goer and believably rarely heard the theatric sermonics of Rev Wright. Many seem not to understand that Af-Am ministers commonly have a style of progressive escalation of verbiage which not infrequently climaxes in theatrics which speak to emotions more than to facts. Sadly, it seems, Wright believes his extremes while quite plausibly, Obama inferred a less inflammatory intent.
Thus, I can give Obama space to wait this long to understand Wright thoroughly enough to find him unacceptable. I am saddened that this has happened. Top flight politicians are much better off to have quiet relationships with much quieter ministers, ones less prone to political talk and more prone to inspiring personal worship. Billy Graham learned to be this way in the school of hard knocks. Note that McCain's minister avoids paralleling or describing or manipulating McCain's politics. That allows each to have his own opinions without having religious issues intrude where they should not.
Wright is unacceptable in the political arena not as much because his views are extreme but because he exposed his views in distracting from a secular Obama. I see any efforts to tie Wright's oratory to Obama as inappropriate as Obama has been every bit as secular as any other major candidate this election cycle.
We have a secular democracy, not a theocracy. Thus, injecting religion is inappropriate, whether it be Mormon or Af-Am or Protestantism.
In sum, Obama is in the right and Wright is in the wrong in this secular political arena. Wright may well be a fabulous orator, but if I were going to give him advice, I would suggest that he listen to one of his own, Rev Evans, I think of Dallas. Rev Evans knows fabulous Af-Am oratory without the appearance of hate or damnation. Hear that Rev Wright???

Posted by: LJB | April 29, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

wow its cut and past playground nite

bring your own beer

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Well, I actually applaud Obama for this stand. I don't think there's a conspiracy between him and the racist Wright, that's absurd. Finally, I am happy with both democratic contenders, whether it be Clinton or Obama. We simply can not have another 4 years of Republican bull$#!t.

Posted by: John | April 29, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Ditto EAT YOUR WORDS!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

With three marxists (two overt and one closeted) running for president, the only question that remains is which one will be the one who gets to bury the final hammer and sickle into the back of America?

Posted by: Hammer and Sickle Detector | April 29, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: NEOCONS 4 HILLARY | April 29, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

WHY WOULD ANYONE THINK THAT AMERICANS WOULD FORGET THAT OBAMA WENT TO A RACIST, ANTI-WHITE, ANTI-SEMITIC CHURCH FOR 20 YEARS?

ARE WE ELECTING A PRESIDENT, OR AN "EXCUSER IN CHIEF?"

OBAMA -- HIS DOG ATE HIS HOMEWORK.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

THIS IS WHAT IS CRIMINAL -

OBAMA CHAIRMAN OF THE SENATE OVERSIGHT COMMITTED ON AFGHANISTAN FOR A YEAR AND A HALF NOW

NOT ONE MEETING

IN THAT YEAR AND A HALF THE DO NOTHING HAS DONE NOTHING:

132 BRAVE UNITED STATES SERVICE MEN AND WOMEN HAVE DIED IN AFGHANISTAN

WHILE MR. OBMA WAS "TOO BUSY" TO HOLD ONE MEETING OF THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE ON AFGHANISTAN. A COMMITTEE HE BRAGGED ABOUT. I GUESS THAT'S WHAT HE THINKS COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS ARE FOR -- SHOW.

WHILE HE WAS TOO BUSY WITH HIS CAMPAIGN TO DO HIS JOB - THESE BRAVE AMERICANS GAVE THEIR LIVES.


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Imagine Hillary's list of the over 4,000 who she sent to die in Iraq.

Hypocrite.

Posted by: Eat Your Words, Lady | April 29, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Lincoln was a Republican Sir Kevin you ignorant bastard. You are on the wrong website anyway, let me help you: www.foxnews.com

Posted by: Dr. Gonzo | April 29, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Rev. Wright is a pebble in the sand next to the dirt of the CLintons. The National Press Club showed him to be self-centered, and there is nothing wrong with Obama severing his relationship with him.

Posted by: Stay with Obama | April 29, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

it really doesn't matter, if Obama gets into office and goes into a coma for four years this country will be far better off then the huge blunders that have occurred during the last eight. I swear, it seems like the brain is dead and the body doesn't even know it. But our kids and grandkids will...
People really don't know how much trouble we're in. So much for Rome...

Posted by: ftj | April 29, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

I never voted for Lincoln either

Kevin and will not in the future

how does that change the flip flop of mccains on inmorall tax cuts on the priveleged at a time of war

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

The Democrats are mostly to blame for today's mess with Obama. For four long and miserable months they kept trying to Move On past a continual flow of allegations about Obama: his early religion, his early Muslim education, his wrongful involvement in Kenya's politics and probably contributing to the massacres by his cousin and his opposition party, his proudly blacks-only African church, his rabid Reverend - a true hater and race baiter like other members of the Al Sharpton-Jesse Jackson variety; Louis Farrhakan, etc.

All Obama's cult-of-personality supporters could muster was a continual drone of "So what if he ..." Your new-found Messiah will bring the liberals down to earth and no more diversions will save you.

Not one of the allegations that Obama has survived until today would have been tolerated against a mainstream candidate. Just one of those background items would have wiped him/her off the slate.

Posted by: Charlie Shrieber | April 29, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

I dont know why this is such a big deal!! Its not like this affects health care, social security, gas prices, lost jobs...Get to the real Issues People!! No politician is perfect for example: Hillary has lied to the American people like it was going out of style!!

Posted by: Teddy | April 29, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

I think Obama was very Genuine. It is clear, on a personal level, he did not want to attack his former Pastor.

But Wright left him no choice on his latest media tour of crazy talk.

At least Obama can now put this behind him and we can focus on the Issues.

That's Good for America.

That's Good for Democrats.

That's Bad for Fox News.

That's Bad for Wright and Farrakhan.

If there is one weakness I see in Obama, it is that he is uncomfortable insulting people. He did not want to hurt Wright, but he had no choice. I see this same dynamic as he refrains from attacking Hillary on Obvious connections and scandals.

Maybe he's too nice to be President?

Posted by: Hillary Voted For The War | April 29, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

I love how most of the Obama bashers can't seem to come up with a good argument. And what better way than to conceal it, then by throwing third grade insults?

Posted by: Scott P. | April 29, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

he is OLDER than dirt to

Posted by: to JP2 | April 29, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

From above...

"Just think how honest abe came to power and set USA on right path. Same would prove to be true for Obama, he cannot be stopped."

Honest abe sent shermon in and let him burn down southern cities and kill white people. he was just another guy doing whatever would put him in the lead position.

Screw you ignoranuses

Posted by: Kevin Coleman | April 29, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Remarkable. 75% of the posters here are Rush Limbaugh ditto heads, as revealed not only by their drooling hatred of Obama, but their inability to speak English.

Posted by: Pablo | April 29, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Outside of a treasure trove of ingenious policies (download the blueprint on his website), Obama's foresight of opposing the Iraq war is all I need to distinguish him as the ideal candidate. That type of keen judgment is perfectly suited for a commander-in-chief, and leader of the free world. Old friends and associates have little, to nothing, to do with the viability of a transformative leader, review the history books (and start with the Bible).

Posted by: cheenameister | April 29, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

"I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community."

Oh really?

Posted by: Sam C. | April 29, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

All it takes is one enterprising 527 showing McCain on stage praising John "the Catholics caused the Holocaust" Hagee and McCain loses Texas (German Catholics, Hispanic Catholics), North Dakota, Ohio, New Mexico and Pennsylvania.

Those voters might not turn around and vote for Obama, but a large chunk of them are likely to sit this one out altogether -- which McCain cannot afford.

McCain actively sought out the endorsement of a leader with anti-Catholic and anti-Semitic views.

Posted by: JP2 | April 29, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

I don't think uncle sam wants to hurt us its just incompetitant at the moment (FDA) Homeland Security

and passed the buck to connected heartless venders

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

I dont know why this is such a big deal!! Its not like this affects health care, social security, gas prices, lost jobs...Get to the real Issues People!! No politician is perfect for example: Hillary has lied to the American people like it was going out of style!!

Posted by: Teddy T | April 29, 2008 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Obama saw a problem that needed to be addressed and he did just that. His ex-pastor was out of line. Obama has always stood for bringing people together--this is not new to his campaign. Why should he be judged by what his pastor did? Do all catholics get judged because several priests are molesting children (and nuns)? We as a nation have strong issues to confront and I want a leader who will confront them. Let's look at the war, the economy, the environment and leave religion out of politics.

Posted by: mj | April 29, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

I am sick of hearing about the Rev. Wright and his comments. I care more about the high cost for gasoline, high food prices, and making ends meet. We are in a Depression, not Recession, but many are still focused on Rev. Wright. Stay focused on important issues that's affecting most of us as U.S. citizens. I wish the Rev. Wright would disappear!

Posted by: Depressed Citizen | April 29, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

My God I see somuch spew of hatred from all people regarding barack. One thing is certain that Obama would make a great president that America and the World needs at this most critical juncture. Just think how honest abe came to power and set USA on right path. Same would prove to be true for Obama, he cannot be stopped.

Posted by: s | April 29, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Damn our media sucks. What about the important stuff, like say maybe peak oil?

Posted by: testing | April 29, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

TO JakeD

"You forgot about the U.S. government causing HIV/AIDS as a means of killing off African-Americans and "God D*mn America!" Also, if you have more time, isn't his middle name actually HUSSEIN? I simply use his middle name (as I do Hillary's middle name) to educate people about little known facts -- for instance, HUSSEIN means "handsome" in Arabic -- did you know that? Are you similarly upset when someone from your side calls the GOP candidate "McBush"? That isn't even his real name."

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To respond to the Hussein thing, 99% of the American population does not know that Hussein means handsome in Arabic. You wanna know what they think of when they hear Hussein? And why do posters capitalize it to emphasize it? And I don't call McCain McBush, but it makes sense in the context of their similar policies.

Secondly, do you know what the Tuskegee experiments were? Between 1932 and 1972 the United States government had conducted a sick experiment based on faulty pretenses that deliberately infected 400 black males with syphilis, the men had limited to almost no knowledge of what was actually being done to them and were actively prevented from getting treatment. The scientific merits of this were non existent. The concept of Aids being spread among a population based on race without the subject's consent and scientific merit is not actually that far-fetched, but I don't agree with Wright on this. What I am saying is that it is not actually as preposterous as it sounds, and it is understandable that a person could believe this when you live in a country with such a thick history of racism. Research next time you jump to conclusions.

Posted by: A person | April 29, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

I don't care, but if you really want to see some cool stuff, go to wynnco.com

Posted by: kevin | April 29, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

YA WHAT ARE THOSE 8000 white folks mainly doing at that church

Shouldn't they be locked up?

Posted by: big church | April 29, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

From a post above. You can tell this person is a loyal Fox watching Repugnican. Obviously didn't learn the verb threw. "I threw up when Bill O'Riley was through talking."

Political expediency.. Barack just through his pastor into orbit after driving over him in the name of getting elected.

Posted by: idak clone | April 29, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

We could be spared by massive famine, floods, Britney Spears DUI's, Racy Teen Singer Photo's

Or the CUB could win the world series. lol

Posted by: I will pray | April 29, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Obama has known Reverend Wright for HOW LONG, and he's just now been offended by one of his speeches? What has he been doing all this time during church?

Posted by: Steve | April 29, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

If there was a terd on the side of the road and a liberal on my plate, I would walk over to the side of the road and eat the terd. Liberals are destroying America.

Posted by: Sir Kevin Coleman of the Confederacy | April 29, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Get Attacked strike back

what hard to understand

for either of them

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

There's no way this thing is over. Even if Wright keeps quiet and doesn't answer Obama back, the press will follow him until he blurts something out. Then it will be news all over again. And if what he says at that point is inflammatory (as it well might be), it will headline the news. Anyone who thinks this is going away is as naive as Obama claims he's been for the past 20 years.

Posted by: Vnd22 | April 29, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

SENATOR Barack can call REV wRIGHT'S SPEECHES OUTRAGEOUS. THE FACT IS HE SAT FOR 20 YEARS IN HIS CHURCH, NEVER DID ANYTHING ABOUT REV WRIGHTS OUTRAGEOUS SPEECHES.NOW THAT HE IS RUNNIHG FOR THE HIGHEST OFFICE IN THE NATION HE DENOUNCES REV. WRIGHT. ALL I CAN SAY WHAT A SNAKE.

Posted by: H BIESER | April 29, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

I think everyone who asserts Wright is a "wacko" really doesn't understand how most people operate.

Posted by: Meh | April 29, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Now we realizes its the DEFICIT STUPID I hope we vote for a canidate that will balance the budget to strengthen the dollar to help bring down oil food prices

rather than one that runs an endless deficit and high war spending

Posted by: its the deficit stupid | April 29, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Hugs all around! Love! Hope! Smiles! Less hatred!

Posted by: Beej | April 29, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Go Hillary!

Posted by: Claire | April 29, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Well, now Obama just seems like a douche.

Posted by: Meh | April 29, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

I have no problem with Wright. But, I do have a problem with those that are focusing on this rather than the real issues. Now, the U.S. is losing two wars, and is economically down the toilet...and the media is focused on an ex-pastor of one of the candidates.

...and the band played on, while the Titanic was sinking?

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

rev Wrong Church

8000 people
mostly white

why do white folk living near the University of Chicago like crazy pastors?

anybody

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Using people to get into power - his Illinois Senate seat - then throwing them overboard?

The Obamistas claimed this was the preserve of the Clintons. Sounds like old politics to me.

HALF THE SOUTH SIDE KNOWS WRIGHT says these things, much less his parishioners. Grow up.

Phony as the day is long, he doesn't even know who he is. How is he going to run a country? There is no there there.

Posted by: Catherine | April 29, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Time to lynch all you white bigots to the nearest tree. You are the reason why Rev. Wright states what he does. Fools.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

hokienation,do you mean like william jefferson? don't try to smear conservative principles because a bunch of rinos couldn't stand up to screaming crying democrats,or keep the country from being overrun. just because right couldn't survive in the cesspool doesn't mean its not right.

Posted by: gunclinger | April 29, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

It is simply amazing that this Rev. Wright is STILL in the news!!!!!!!!!!!!

Every day the news proclaims ... "You'll never believe what Reverend Wright said today!"

50 Million (50,000,000) without health coverage in the ONLY COUNTRY not to see health care as a human right. 105,000 preventable health care deaths last year. And, what leads the news?

"What did Rev. Wright say today?" or "Do you think the Mily Cyrus photos were inappropriate?"

The media is a complete disgrace. And the only bigger disgraces are the seals who are stupid enough to SERIOUSLY discuss these issues on blogs.

Posted by: Jerry Grant | April 29, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

You stupid liberals should have never faught against us. We told you the fed would get to big, but you wouldn't listen. Now look at the lies that you have created. Where is you beloved peice of crap Abraham Lincoln now? He started these lies and now your beloved Obama and Clinton will finish them.

Posted by: Sir Kevin Coleman of the Confederacy | April 29, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

My dear readers. The fact is that Reverend Wright is a neocon plant put there over a 20 year time period for the very purpose of destroying the Democratic party. Like Wright, Louis Farrhakan is also a neocon plant, placed there for the successful purpose of creating sympathy for Israel by means of his fanatical and maniacal rantings which disgust intelligent citizens. They were both placed at about the same timeframe and you will notice their demagogic styles are the same.

All of the above facts will be exposed more soon.

Posted by: Pat Buchanan | April 29, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Oops make that AUTOBIOGRAPHICAL

Posted by: John | April 29, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

So,uhhh, Obama used a quote from Rev Wright as the title of an AUTIOGRPHICAL BOOK, but he uhhhh didn't uhhhh 'realize' the uhhhh wacko stuff Wright says? Imagine the never ending trail of excuses if Obama made it to the White House. GW all over again, people.

Posted by: John | April 29, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Where did Jeremiah Wright get his degrees from? A Cracker Jack box? The man is not only arrogant but stupid. It's amazing who they'll give PhD's to.

Posted by: Bill | April 29, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

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HILLARY VOTED FOR THE WAR

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4,000 U.S. SOLDIERS DEAD

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

WE win together or die apart

i hope they are both on the ticker

Posted by: come together | April 29, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Wright has now had his 15 minutes of fame, now, please go away.
I voted not once but twice for the idiot we currently refer to as President. Shame on me!
If the three candidates were to all run, today, for President (McCain, Clinton and Obama), Obama gets my vote. If Billary ends up with the nod, I will have to take a harder (ugh) look at McCain.

Posted by: Noble Dog | April 29, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Hillary's people always have something or someone to blame: It is the caucus system. Maybe everyone is correct, but it isn't new this year, been around a long time and helped Bill Clinton become President. Can DNC do something to make the nominating system better? I'm sure. Cut time out about a year would be nice. She agreed the votes in FL and MI would not count before she realized she wouldn't have the nomination in Feb. Now those votes should count. Yes, the DNC has to come up with an answer to a problem that was caused by the state politicians, but why is it now Hillary feels the votes should count when initially she said the shouldn't.
Hillary has "35 years of experience" - let's see, she defended a couple of Black Panthers, worked with a couple of communist laywers, got fired for lying and hiding paperwork during the Nixon hearings, the dealings with the Rose Law firm, Whitewater,.........and then there is Bill Clinton. You can't choose your blood relatives, but for some reason she stood by her man after he had several flings, and evidently forgave him, and oobviously continues to forgive him for his money making from Colombia, ......... I could go on and on, but my point is because Obama knows 3 people others don't like, he is now the "bad" guy. Strange, isn't it? She is considered untrustworthy and dishonest by most of Americans, but Obama is the liar; she grew up middle class, daddy paid for college, has become a multimillionaire, but Obama is the elitist.
Obama has been ahead for several months but Hillary's folks feel he should withdraw. Oh, I forget, she "deserved" the nomination this years. Obviously, thousands disagree.
Hillary said, and you can't doubt anything she says, that Obama can beat McCain, but isn't it funny that nearly 30% of her people feel if she doesn't get the nomination, they will vote for McCain - sounds as childish as all of the other tripe they say.
Why can't we all work for a better system if it is needed AFTER the nomination, work for better times together, hopefully with Obama as President and get past this junk about "Obama know's so and so" and that means he is a terrible, lying, no good so and so.

Posted by: happygrammy | April 29, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Obama had 20 years to speak up. Now that his pastor is a racist and everyone now knows Obama is he wants to speak up. BOOHOO

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

"There is nothing more dangerous than an idea if it is the only one you have"

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Talk about sound judgment.

Posted by: Akshay | April 29, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Hillary's people always have something or someone to blame: It is the caucus system. Maybe everyone is correct, but it isn't new this year, been around a long time and helped Bill Clinton become President. Can DNC do something to make the nominating system better? I'm sure. Cut time out about a year would be nice. She agreed the votes in FL and MI would not count before she realized she wouldn't have the nomination in Feb. Now those votes should count. Yes, the DNC has to come up with an answer to a problem that was caused by the state politicians, but why is it now Hillary feels the votes should count when initially she said the shouldn't.
Hillary has "35 years of experience" - let's see, she defended a couple of Black Panthers, worked with a couple of communist laywers, got fired for lying and hiding paperwork during the Nixon hearings, the dealings with the Rose Law firm, Whitewater,.........and then there is Bill Clinton. You can't choose your blood relatives, but for some reason she stood by her man after he had several flings, and evidently forgave him, and oobviously continues to forgive him for his money making from Colombia, ......... I could go on and on, but my point is because Obama knows 3 people others don't like, he is now the "bad" guy. Strange, isn't it? She is considered untrustworthy and dishonest by most of Americans, but Obama is the liar; she grew up middle class, daddy paid for college, has become a multimillionaire, but Obama is the elitist.
Obama has been ahead for several months but Hillary's folks feel he should withdraw. Oh, I forget, she "deserved" the nomination this years. Obviously, thousands disagree.
Hillary said, and you can't doubt anything she says, that Obama can beat McCain, but isn't it funny that nearly 30% of her people feel if she doesn't get the nomination, they will vote for McCain - sounds as childish as all of the other tripe they say.
Why can't we all work for a better system if it is needed AFTER the nomination, work for better times together, hopefully with Obama as President and get past this junk about "Obama know's so and so" and that means he is a terrible, lying, no good so and so.

Posted by: happygrammy | April 29, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA supporters LOVE Hillary

and would never leave there party no matter what happens
is they love America

go OBAMA

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

fred sanford looked like he was having a pretty good time here in america.

Posted by: gunclinger | April 29, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Judging from these responses it seems the Post has a strong contingent of brainwashed conservative-talk-show listeners. The media continues to push these events and the American public continues to become distracted from the important social issues. Maybe these comments suggest the public is content with political corruption and the oppressive calculated approaches of the recent past.

'The is nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come.'

Posted by: OR_HokieNation | April 29, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

No he didnt voted for the war and he didnt voted for many more things cause he dont have guts to vote for anything

Posted by: Mike | April 29, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

N E O C O N S

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William (Bill) Kristol; Editor of the Weekly Standard, key pusher for invading Iraq, talking about Hillary Clinton:

"I like to be on Hillary's side"

"She is a good candidate"

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"I am with her. I am with her"


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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352785,00.html
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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Hillary is perfect in all aspects has a wonderful family and loving husband
everyone but the Great Senator Robert Bird voted for the War

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA SUPPORTERS ARE SECRETLY WORKING FOR MCCAIN!!!

WHY ELSE WOULD THEY BE TRASHING HILLARY CLINTON, THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

If all of this keeps up, my beloved Confederacy will be able to win a party. I love my country, but mor than that, I love my state, but more than that, I love my county, but more than that, I love my home. I will cling to guns and religion and you liberals will destroy this country and give real logical people a leg up. Vote for Obama, vote for clinton, I do not care. They, just like all politicians are making fools out of you.

Posted by: kevin coleman south carolina | April 29, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Obama's got ROCKS in his head, and so do his supporters. Obama is sinking like a ROCK.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

FOR ALL YOU IDIOTS THAT SAY HILLARY VOTED FOR THE WAR?????SHE WAS LIED TO US LIKE THE REST OF US>>SHE WAS TOLD THERE WAS WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION>>OBAMA LIED TO YOU AND EVERYONE SAYING HE DID NOT VOTE FOR THE WAR>....>HE WAS NOT IN THE SENATE TO VOTE FOR THE WAR.????!!!!...he left out that part as his typical way to cloud the issue when he is lying >>AND OBAMA VOTED EXACTLY AS HILLARY TO FUND THE WAR WHEN HE GOT IN THE SENATE!!!>>ADD THE OTHER 50 lies OBAMA TOLD see POLITICAL FORUM.COM ELECTIONS AND CAMPAIGNS BY LATISHA>>>AND YOU IGNORANT PEOPLE>>THE CLINTONS HAD THE LONGEST PEACE KEEPING TIME IN THE HISTORY OF ANY PRESIDENCY!!!!!!!!!!!!>>>AND THE BIGGEST ECONOMIC GAIN OF ANY PRESIDENCY IN OUR HISTORY >>>GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!!! >>YOU WERE GOING TO BE VOTING IN A PROBLEM WORSE THAN 911 with your ignorance..HILLARY WINNING ALL POLLS IN INDIANA >>GO HILLARY !!!!

Posted by: ByeObama | April 29, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Hillary is saint a perfect humble poor white girl from penn

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

About 70% of what Wright says is true and as he tossed him off the bridge, Obama should have had the decency to acknowledge that Rev. Wright isn't completely out of the ball park. There are serious social and racial issues in the U.S., a lot of justified anger, and the weekly massacres of black youths by black youths in our cities that is a national crisis.

People have been calling for Hillary to withdraw from the race. Well, the candidate who should withdraw is Obama before he completely shreds the Democratic hopes for the presidency.

With Hillary, the Democrats have a chance to win the White House. With Obama, the Dems are toast. Make that a baloney sandwich on toast.

Posted by: Jay | April 29, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

WRIGHT is so WRONG. Im glad Obama distance himself , just in time for my donation. Obama ROCKS!

Posted by: 9081771 | April 29, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

if you are reading this you are emotionally disturbed and have no real reason for existence like myself

god please take us out of our misery

Posted by: IF YOU ARE READING THIS | April 29, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

So NOW he throws Wright under the bus with Grandma?

Only after Wright finally tells the truth about ONE thing...Obamalama is a liar and saying "what he needs to say" to get elected.

bye bye Barry the liar...

Posted by: Typical White Person | April 29, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

And just why would Gore get on board??
The Clintons are the reason that he is not president.

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

IF Obama does not win/nor will CLINTON. I would take 8 more years of BUSH/McCain before I vote for HILLARY and so are a lot of friends, family members, co-workers, nephews, nieces, and religious supporters.

GOOD night

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Posted by: obama08 | April 29, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

BUT HE WAS ONLY GIVEN 2/3 OF A VOTE AND THE REST WENT TO SUPER DELEGATES

Posted by: HA HA | April 29, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Obama isn't the problem. However in reading these posts I see our country is in a lot of trouble.

Posted by: Dave | April 29, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

His next book:

"The Audacity of Hoping that Americans Will Believe Anything"

Posted by: JKL | April 29, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

IF Obama does not win/nor will CLINTON. I would take 8 more years of BUSH/McCain before I vote for HILLARY and so are a lot of friends, family members, co-workers, nephews, nieces, and religious supporters.

GOOD night

Posted by: KASSANDRA | April 29, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Rave on idiots. Are you sure you all are democrats? You have destroyed your top two candidates and have no one left.

Senator McCain doesn't have to lift a finger and he will be the next president, and you democrats did it to yourselves.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

I have read these comments and watched Hard Ball and it seems that the consensus of Obama supporters with regard to Rev. Wright is that he is deliberately trying to sabatoge the Obama campaign.

I think this is a false portrayal of Wright's intentions. I have listened to his complete remarks before the NPC from Monday. Obama's landmark speech on race delivered in Philadelphia is not much different from Wright's remarks at the NPC from Monday, there were just two different styles delivering the same message.

I do not think Wright is trying to sabatage Obama, but he is trying to save him from the hypocracy to which Obama's campaign and his personal ambition to become President is leading Obama.

Wright is Obama's spiritual mentor. We now know what Wright taught Obama. We know that Obama was led to Wright by his wife Michelle who seems to be a soul mate to Wright (read her thesis paper).

Obama's throwing Wright under the bus now is clearly too late. Who will believe Obama this time?? First Obama denied knowledge of these ideas of Wright, then he said he knew about them and tried to explain them, saying that he would never desert Wright.

And now that Wright is saying the same things again, Obama again "pivots" and this time renounces Wright. Why? His poll numbers are dropping. North Carolina is now in single digits and closing. If Obama loses North Carolina, he is done. Period.

So, out of political expediency, he is ditching the Rev. But the Rev knows better. He knows what he taught Obama and I am sure that he is apalled that Obama has turned his back on everything in pursuit of his political ambition.

Sabatoge Obama?? No, Wright is trying to save Obama's soul.

And as for Chris Matthews, he calls it sabatoge because he sees everything through a political spectrum. To call Wright's speech a catastrophe is a racist thing to do. Wright mere explained that Blacks are different from Whites, not deficient.

And in all of this, where is the true Obama? Who is the man? Is he the man that Wright taught, who learned at the Master's knee? Or is he the creature of David Axelrod? Or is he the personification of his wife's ambitions to overcome White society by achieving its highest political prize.

Who is Barak Obama??

Posted by: Beiruti | April 29, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

The superdelegates were created for just exactly this type of problem. It's unthinkable to me that we are allowing college kids to decide who the next president is. Wake up people Obama is not ready to be president. Obama is so desperate to be president that he couldn't wait until he had finished even one term as a US Senator. Obama needs to go back to the Senate and serve a couple of terms and clean up some of his past then come back and run for president after he has gained a little more life experience.

Posted by: sd | April 29, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Obama's cult followers are really creepy.
They love their "dear leader" no matter what he does. They act like this is North Korea, Mao's China, or somewhere in the old Eastern Block.

What drugs does Obama put in the kool-aid these kids are drinking?

It's like they're on a mixture of LSD and MDMA.

They're truly creepy.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

HILLARY VOTED to 4000+ US ARMY DEATHS and 1 Millions IRAQI Deaths and $4 GAS by VOTING "4" IRAQ WAR.

http://icasualties.org/oif/

Posted by: kg | April 29, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Its really sad that Obama betrayed his best friend rev Right.Well its too lil too late for lil boy anyway.Its over

Posted by: Mike | April 29, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Funny to read all you posters who jump on this one. "Obama had 20 years to denounce... etc." The media loves you all, as you bite every time they throw this bait out there. Issues, please! Healthcare, economy, war... oh wait, talking about the details of policy is too boring for you. So be a sheep, get indignant, and vote for Hillary or McCain.

Posted by: Patriot | April 29, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

"You know Michelle doesn't like the US: "never been proud of my country." I'm glad these two arrogant people have had their vulnerabilities exposed."

I am white and educated and at this time, I am not proud of my country either.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

The CLINTONS will do ANYTHING TO WIN. Everyone knows Rev. Dr. Barbara Reynolds SUPPORTS Clinton and is responsible for WRIGHT comments. See NY Daily Post.

What some people will do for $
KARAMA IS A BEETCH, WRIGHT

Posted by: kassandra | April 29, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

What Obama forgot to say:

"In all the 20 years I have intimately known Rev. Wright, this is the first time he has ever said anything like this. I never knew he admired America's most famous Black Muslim. I am shocked!"
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"The Republicans know, of course, that I'm lying like a Persian rug; but there are enough hardcore liberals still kicking that will buy my story and eat whatever crap I feed them, so I'll keep running. Let's Move On to health care."

Posted by: Harry | April 29, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

HILLARY CLINTON WINNING ALL INDIANA POLLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT GOD DA-- AMERICA WITH OBAMA IN THE WRIGHT HOUSE>....>GOD BLESS AMERICA WITH THE CLINTONS IN THE WHITE HOUSE>>THEY HOLD THE BIGGEST PEACE KEEPING TIME OF ANY PRESIDENCY AND THE BIGGEST ECONOMIC GROWTH OF ANY PRESIDENCY!!!! YA!!!!!!!!!!! HILLARY 2008...THANK YOU AMERICA FOR SEEING THE LIGHT!! HILLARY HILLARY HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: ByeObama | April 29, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Obama will lose the remaining primaries by a landslide (except possibly NC, because its got such a high percentage of AA's) and drop out.

Obama is toast.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

"Give it up. She's going to be the Democratic Candidate. Its either her or McCain."

Don't be too sure, if the super delegates are not super dumb, neither Clinton or Obama will be the candidate. The democrats have seen to that. It will go past the first vote and then somebody else will be nominated in the convention. Someone who might win after the democrats have gotten through with their top two candidates. Otherwise it is McCain in an landslide. The super delegates are not dumb.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

MD --

I AND EVERY OTHER CLINTON SUPPORTER IS LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING OBAMA CRUSHED.

WE CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE HIM AND HIS ARROGANT SUPPORTERS CUT DOWN TO SIZE.

YOU'VE TRIED TO DO A "HOSTILE TAKE-OVER" OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

YOU'VE FAILED.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

As long as the Rev.'s hateful energy was turned on white people, Obama was cool with it. When he realized he didn't control the Rev. either, then that hatred became a problem. You know Michelle doesn't like the US: "never been proud of my country." I'm glad these two arrogant people have had their vulnerabilities exposed. The Clintons already were. I suppose McCain is next.

Posted by: mclovin | April 29, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Rev. Wright is not on the ballot.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Judging by the large number of posts here I would guess that people have finally discovered that Obama is not the sweet innocent choir boy that he looks like. Obama is just one more corrupt politician tyring to spin his association with Wright in a postive way.Very nice to denounce Wright now that there is absolutly no way to deny that you heard the hateful preaching of this lunatic that you call your "spiritual leader".

Posted by: 220 | April 29, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

The whole argument that Wright is not the candidate so this is being blown out of proportion does not work. Obama has held him up, through words and actions, as a mentor and otherwise critical person in his life. THIS is the crux of the issue . . . Obama's credibility and judgement . . . and maybe even some of his own fringe beliefs. I know people go to church for lots of reasons but you'd have to be deaf and dumb to miss that Wright is an extremist. Not only did Obama not leave the church, he embraced this guy and stayed for TWENTY YEARS!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

For those idiots that say "there's just one snipit" -- Do your research. There are so many different clips from different sermons on YouTube its not even funny. Wright came out with a whole series of DVD's for goodness sake. For Obama supporters attacking Hillary -- Give it up. She's going to be the Democratic Candidate. Its either her or McCain.

OBAMA WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT.

YOU CAN TAKE THAT TO THE BANK.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Two educated leaders of the community, black and proficient in speaking ability.
One, Barak Obama, with a vision of being the first of his race to lead the free world, willing to sacrifice all time and effort in an attempt to correct the mistakes of 8 years of incompetence and failure during the Bush administration.
The other, Jeremiah Wright, seemingly on a mission to destroy any chance for the success of the Obama campaign. Determined to undermine and torpedo all possibility for a man from his own church to become the nominee.
We will know very soon if and when Reverend Wright continues his appearances and speeches.

Posted by: motiv8ed | April 29, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Today, in this country, you can destroy a man/woman in the public forum by making a false accusation against that person which will be dutifully and woefully parroted by the press under the guise of 'vetting' someone's character. In fact, the media, now routinely, is complicit in repeated character assassination.

One's words can be easily misquoted, misrepresented, distorted and denounced and broadcast in damning snippets around the world and across the Internet while the truth of one's statements are buried under an avalanche of oft-repeated, intentionally amplified lies.

It is next to impossible to defend oneself against critical and destructive attacks when the accused has no platform where he or she can expect the intended audience to listen fully, carefully and open-mindedly. The press snaps to attention and gleefully plays a full-throated game of 'gotcha'.

Even when someone is able to mount a reasoned public defense, the chattering mob of bogus commentators pull phrases out of context and distort the true intent of the statement to service their own self-interest.

A case in point is the public pillory of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. For months his past words have been truncated, misquoted, distorted and purposely misrepresented. He has been labeled as an anti-patriotic, hate-mongering racist. In fact, he is a thoughtful, learned, passionate advocate for the downtrodden.

I watched the complete Bill Moyers interview with Rev. Jeremiah Wright, extended clips of the reverend's 'controversial' sermons, and Rev. Wright's recent speeches to the NAACP and Washington Press Club. He didn't say ONE thing that wasn't true. He talked about governments, this one included, that have not always done the 'right thing' (my words, not his). He drew our attention to the genocide of Native Americans, the enslavement of African-Americans, the internment of Japanese-Americans, and the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki that killed untold numbers of civilians. He noted that America develops, manufactures and sells chemical and biological weapons (weapons of mass destruction). He lamented the subversion of 'other' cultures by the dominant White Anglo-Saxon power holders. And he comically demonstrated that different cultures learn, think and act differently - in their religious practices and social interactions. All, reasoned and incontrovertible truths.

But, today, under political pressure, and after the press has demonized the man, Barack Obama has thrown his former pastor under the bus and backed up over him.

I'm disheartened by the current turn of events and state of public discourse. When the Rev. Wright was first condemned by the political Right, Obama gave a challenging speech in Philadelphia calling for a national conversation about race in America. That was the right thing to do. But, instead of calm, deliberate dialogue between people of different skin color, religious beliefs or cultural heritage, we continue to demean and suppress other people out of ignorance and a refusal to even hear or understand their opposing points of view.

Thoughtful dialogue is being drowned out by the loud barrage of the righteous mob.

Again, I plead to you, to seek out the truth. Listen, learn, understand, question and then make up your mind. When you find a person or opinion contrary to yours, don't go on the attack, or even on the defensive. Hear them out. Understanding and respect are the ways to peace. Know what you stand for and what you oppose. But, more importantly, know why.

When you see or hear someone being so vociferously and unrelentingly attacked, ask why. Investigate who is behind the assault. Whose interests are being jeopardized? Whose position and power are being threatened? Who wants to drown out the contrary voice and why?

And, finally, don't be afraid to listen to other voices. Seek out all viewpoints. Even if the speakers' language is incendiary, even if their ideas are challenging, even if their passionate expressions make you uncomfortable, they may be speaking the truth.

Posted by: David Guilbault | April 29, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

"Obama will Say Anything or Do Anything to Be President !!!.....P.S. You can't wallow with the likes of Rev. Wright, Antoin "Tony" Rezko and Louis Farrakhan and not get dirty !!!"

Hmmm, at least he's not on trial. Hillary is, that's case number BC304174 in Los Angeles Superior Court. Look it up.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

I think it's high time that Barrack Obama let the public know his true feelings. You can't tell me that he knew this man for 20 years and didn't think the same way Wright did.
Barrack Obama needs to take full responsibility for this even though it's already cost him the election.
I would never feel comfortable voting for anyone who was a memeber of this church that was so mean spirited.

Posted by: Louis | April 29, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

That's case number BC304174 in the Los Angeles Superior Court.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

For those of you who are saying that Barack is 20 years too late in denouncing Rev. Wright, answer this:

1) If Wright was saying such blasphemous things for twenty years - then how come there is only one snippet from one sermon?

2) How come there is no videotaped evidence that Obama was sitting in the CHURCH, at this or any other time that type of message was preached?

Posted by: naiima | April 29, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

This is Absolutely Ridiculous !! .....It is what it is...Wright is who he is and says what he believes and wants to say....Barrack Omits Wright has been a Mentor to Him for 20 Years......THATS THE ISSUE !! .....Obama, who recently said he could no more disown Wright than he could the black community.... He pretty much disowned Wright today...6 weeks ago he said Wright was like Family and could not denounce him....Whats Changed ?.....NOTHING ......Obama will Say Anything or Do Anything to Be President !!!.....P.S. You can't wallow with the likes of Rev. Wright, Antoin "Tony" Rezko and Louis Farrakhan and not get dirty !!!

Posted by: I Denounce Rev. Wright !! ( Wink Wink ) | April 29, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Quote: "YOU WILL PAY FOR WHAT YOU DID TO THE CLINTONS."

No, the upcoming Clinton fraud trial will take good care of that.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Obama's strong denunciation is a little too late. Wright is not saying anything new. It's nothing more than repetitions of previous comments. Obama's response:

"The fact that Reverend Wright would think that somehow it was appropriate to command the stage for three or four consecutive days in the midst of this major debate is something that not only makes me angry, but also saddens me"

Clearly, Obama is not concerned that it's happening; he is worried that it's happening RIGHT NOW when his nomination is at risk. These aren't new comments, then, why didn't Obama react this way before?

Posted by: EGGArgost | April 29, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Democrats are toast. Unlesss there is a miracle, Obama is permenantly damaged as far as the middle America is concerned. If Hillary wins nomination by last minute "back room deals," Blacks and youth will be turned off. McCain will win unless he shoots his own foot somehow. How stupid is the Jeremiah Wright guy!!?

Posted by: noodleman | April 29, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

GONZO --

OBAMA IS FAR MORE POLARIZING THAN HILLARY.

YOU OBAMA SUPPORTERS HAVE NO IDEA HOW ANGRY THE REST OF AMERICA IS WITH HIM AND WITH YOU.

Posted by: | April 29, 2008 9:17 PM
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No We, it's you who is angry with Obama and his supporters. I'm beginning to think that it's time to have WAPO seeking you out for emergency theraphy. Stop thinking you are the voice of ALL of America. You have one vote we, not the vote of all non-Obama supporters. You're obviously not in the majority, otherwise your candidate would be leading in delegates. Get over yourself, you're no we, you're a me, lol.

Posted by: MD Voter | April 29, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse


Why don;t you just google for it ebonyflash??

What, don't know how??

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Quote:" OBAMA SUPPORTERS --

YOU HAVE TURNED US INTO HARDENED ENEMIES.

YOU WILL PAY FOR WHAT YOU DID TO THE CLINTONS."

You are hilarious and pulling our leg. if not, you are crazy. Either way:
Have a good evening.


Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

I want somebody to tell me about the shooting death of the choir director at Trinity Church in Dec,2007!!!! I am not going to blog anymore until I can get answer.
NOTICE!!!!
I will check for a resoponse to this question in exactly 30 minutes and hope that I can get a response to this. If you have it send it at precisely 10:05 P.M.

Posted by: Ebonyflash | April 29, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

No name responder:

I don't know what rock you live under but all republicans and most independents think Hillary is the anti-christ. Obama on the other hand, has wooed independents and many republicans like no democrat has since FDR or JFK. I happen to like and respect Hillary, however, she is a one-way ticket to four more year of the GOP oligarchy.

Posted by: Dr. Gonzo | April 29, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Jeremaiea, you have a stupid name & you sound like a beach ( a female vagabond dog).

OBAMA WE LOVE YOU !!! This scandal is a good test for you , will make you a better man/human and president :) DON'T GIVE UP ON US ...

Posted by: independent thinker | April 29, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Obama - outraged, saddened.

Stupid, hypocritical, ambitious, callous, two-faced phony.

Posted by: Lenny Wright | April 29, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

"YOU OBAMA SUPPORTERS HAVE NO IDEA HOW ANGRY THE REST OF AMERICA IS WITH HIM AND WITH YOU."

Oh yes, they do. And the Clinton supporters feel the same way about Obama. And you are all democrats. And that is the reason that McCain is the next president. It's doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure that out.
That is hilarious.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Please

I need someones help please....I need a FACT CHECKER, Sen. Obama sat on stage with the ladies of the View a few weeks ago and said that HE DID consider Wright his mentor and friend.

He now is now giving a speech in Winston Salem saying just the opposite. He will not come to Raleigh here either and have an open discussion/debate with Hillary. Yes there have been a lot of debates, but living in NC it is nice to be heard for once and we welcome a debate.

What is the saying? Day late, dollar short!

I really thought we might have had a chance for change instead of pretty speeches and bad acting.

Oh yes as someone spoke earlier, get the wife out of the picture.

And Hillary did acknowledge her husbands blow job, but thats not what caused the AIDS virus.

By the way Rev. Wright, the AIDS thing was invented by the government for the gays. Remember when people actually were that ignorant to call it the gay disease? Get another line!

Posted by: Amie | April 29, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Most level headed Hillary supporters would support Obama is he recieved the nomination. Most Obama supporters would support Hillary if the roles were reversed.
TO THE ALL CAPS HATERS,SUPPORTERS OF EITHER

You
Are the minority
You are the fear mongers Bill Clinton warned us about
You are the angry ones
You are the bigots
You are the sexist mysogonistic trolls
You are Probably GOP's desperate to win.
You are the past.
YOU are responsible for the distraction from meaningful issues facing Americans.
YOU

LOOK LIKE FOOLS.
You arent convincing anyone.
You arent scaring us.
Hillary OR Obama would make a fine president.
FEAR
FEAR
FEAR
Bill Clinton in 2004:
"Now one of Clinton's Laws of Politics is
this: If one candidate's trying to scare
you and the other one's trying to get you
to think; if one candidate's appealing to
your fears and the other one's appealing
to your hopes, you better vote for the
person who wants you to think and hope.
That's the best."

Posted by: feastorafamine | April 29, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

WE'D LIKE TO SEE HILLARY BE PRESIDENT, BUT ITS BIGGER THAN THAT NOW.

WE WANT TO SEE OBAMA LOSE MORE THAN WE WANT TO SEE HER WIN.

Posted by: | April 29, 2008 9:12 PM
-----------------------------------
There you go Ms. "We", everything is "BIGGER" when it comes to you. I'm beginning to think that all the "we's" in your camp are simply your multiple "we" personalities, lol. Face it Ms. We, you don't want Obama to lose as much as you want Hillary to win; the fact is, you can't see a path to her winning so you like your candidate Hillary is bent on making certain that Obama loses. Well, what does that get you? President McCain? So what; so tell your band of We's that it's o.k., they can come out now, lol.

Posted by: MD Voter | April 29, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Now let's see: the former minister of Bill and Hillary Clinton was convicted of child molestation today. Where is the media on this felon? Clintons are too white now? (They claimed they were sooo black in the 90's). McCain's minister Hagee said: " All hurricanes are acts of God, because God controls the heavens. I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God, and they are -- were recipients of the judgment of God for that." Where is the media on this lunatic? Oh yeah, Grampa McCain wears teflon.
Get serious! Ask yourself why only Obama's minister matters! Or continue to be blind to the others. Your choice.

Posted by: albode | April 29, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Precious:
So you are proud of a guy who is willing to throw his pastor, his grandma and maybe even you under the bus! This makeshim Presidential? If that's the case then every President we've had over the history of this country was just like that right? So what you are saying is that any BUM can be President....right?

Posted by: Ebonyflash | April 29, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

If my brother of 27 years murders somebody, does that make me a murderer by association?

Posted by: vmunikoti | April 29, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Why has no one mentioned that the Clintons used Rev. Wright as their marriage counselor after the Monica Lewinsky incident? Why doesn't the media pick up on that tid-bit?

Posted by: Val | April 29, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

This dog won't hunt Obama. If the Obama campaign thinks that they can spin this now they are sadly mistaken. I hope everyone in Indiana and North Carolina can now see this man for who he really is.... just another corrupt politican that wants to be president because he thinks it would be a cool gig.

Posted by: MSB | April 29, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

GONZO --

OBAMA IS FAR MORE POLARIZING THAN HILLARY.

YOU OBAMA SUPPORTERS HAVE NO IDEA HOW ANGRY THE REST OF AMERICA IS WITH HIM AND WITH YOU.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Hi
First time commenting but felt the need. I truly am divided between Hillary and Obama. I love what Obama represents and I dont believe in " guilt by association" I have read alot of comments on this board and have to say that the ones that keep talking about Rush and his " operation Chaos" are what is wrong with this country. You want to see the worst instead of trying to strive for the best. The cynical thinking and the enjoyment of peoples pain is what is wrong with the republican party. Instead of trying to work on problems, they love to play the blame game.

Posted by: Shane Hamby | April 29, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

I don't give a damn what Obama says or does about his pastor. Of course he was pandering, thats what politicians must do. He was pandering when he claimed to be so involved with religion in the first place. Everyone one knows if you want to get elected to public office you better bring it with the J.C. love. The bottom line is: who is really going to bring an end to the GOP reign of ignorance? Obama, or the Hilldog? The fresh, new, inspiring figure who has politcially turned on a whole new generation, or a candidate who is possibly the most polarizing, stigmatized figure in modern politics?

Posted by: Dr. Gonzo | April 29, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

RE: CASE NUMBER

WAIT UNTIL OBAMA IS INDICTED IN CHICAGO.

HE'S GOING AWAY FOR A LONG TIME, AND ITS TO THE "BIG HOUSE" NOT THE "WHITE HOUSE"

OBAMA WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT.

WITH LUCK, HE'LL SPEND HIS LIFE BEHIND BARS.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Fareed Zakaria
Editor of Newsweek International, columnist
PostGlobal co-moderator Fareed Zakaria is editor of Newsweek International, overseeing all Newsweek's editions abroad. He writes a regular column for Newsweek, which also appears in Newsweek International and often The Washington Post. He is a member of the roundtable of ABC News' "This Week with George Stephanapoulos" as well as an analyst for ABC News. And he is the host of a new weekly PBS show, "Foreign Exchange" which focuses on international affairs. His most recent book, "The Future of Freedom," was published in the spring of 2003 and was a New York Times bestseller and is being translated into eighteen languages. He is also the author of "From Wealth to Power: The Unusual Origins of America's World Role" (Princeton University Press), and co-editor of "The American Encounter: The United States and the Making of the Modern World" (Basic Books). Close. Fareed Zakaria
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McCain's Radical Foreign Policy
Amid the din of the dueling Democrats, people seem to have forgotten about that other guy in the presidential race-you know, John McCain. McCain is said to be benefiting from this politically because his rivals are tearing each other apart. In fact, few people are paying much attention to what the Republican nominee is saying, or subjecting it to any serious scrutiny.

On March 26, McCain gave a speech on foreign policy in Los Angeles that was billed as his most comprehensive statement on the subject. It contained within it the most radical idea put forward by a major candidate for the presidency in 25 years. Yet almost no one noticed.

In his speech McCain proposed that the United States expel Russia from the G8, the group of advanced industrial countries. Moscow was included in this body in the 1990s to recognize and reward it for peacefully ending the cold war on Western terms, dismantling the Soviet empire and withdrawing from large chunks of the old Russian Empire as well. McCain also proposed that the United States should expand the G8 by taking in India and Brazil-but pointedly excluded China from the councils of power.

We have spent months debating Barack Obama's suggestion that he might, under some circumstances, meet with Iranians and Venezuelans. It is a sign of what is wrong with the foreign-policy debate that this idea is treated as a revolution in U.S. policy while McCain's proposal has barely registered. What McCain has announced is momentous-that the United States should adopt a policy of active exclusion and hostility toward two major global powers. It would reverse a decades-old bipartisan American policy of integrating these two countries into the global order, a policy that began under Richard Nixon (with Beijing) and continued under Ronald Reagan (with Moscow). It is a policy that would alienate many countries in Europe and Asia who would see it as an attempt by Washington to begin a new cold war.

I write this with sadness because I greatly admire John McCain, a man of intelligence, honor and enormous personal and political courage. I also agree with much of what else he said in that speech in Los Angeles. But in recent years, McCain has turned into a foreign-policy schizophrenic, alternating between neoconservative posturing and realist common sense. His speech reads like it was written by two very different people, each one given an allotment of a few paragraphs on every topic.

The neoconservative vision within the speech is essentially an affirmation of ideology. Not only does it declare war on Russia and China, it places the United States in active opposition to all nondemocracies. It proposes a League of Democracies, which would presumably play the role that the United Nations now does, except that all nondemocracies would be cast outside the pale. The approach lacks any strategic framework. What would be the gain from so alienating two great powers? How would the League of Democracies fight terrorism while excluding countries like Jordan, Morocco, Egypt and Singapore? What would be the gain to the average American to lessen our influence with Saudi Arabia, the central banker of oil, in a world in which we are still crucially dependent on that energy source?

The single most important security problem that the United States faces is securing loose nuclear materials. A terrorist group can pose an existential threat to the global order only by getting hold of such material. We also have an interest in stopping proliferation, particularly by rogue regimes like Iran and North Korea. To achieve both of these core objectives-which would make American safe and the world more secure-we need Russian cooperation. How fulsome is that likely to be if we gratuitously initiate hostilities with Moscow? Dissing dictators might make for a stirring speech, but ordinary Americans will have to live with the complications after the applause dies down.

To reorder the G8 without China would be particularly bizarre. The G8 was created to help coordinate problems of the emerging global economy. Every day these problems multiply-involving trade, pollution, currencies-and are in greater need of coordination. To have a body that attempts to do this but excludes the world's second largest economy is to condemn it to failure and irrelevance. International groups are not cheerleading bodies but exist to help solve pressing global crises. Excluding countries won't make the problems go away.

McCain appears to think that he can magically unite the two main strands in the Republican foreign-policy establishment. But he can't. This is not about personalities but about two philosophically divergent views of international affairs. Put together, they will produce infighting and incoherence. We have seen this movie before. We have watched an American president unable to choose between his ideologically driven vice president and his pragmatic secretary of State-and the result was the catastrophe of George W. Bush's first term. Twenty-five years earlier, we watched another president who believed that he could encompass the entire spectrum of foreign policy. He, too, gave speeches that were drafted by advisers with divergent world views: in that case, Cyrus Vance and Zbigniew Brzezinski. It led to the paralyzing internal battles of the Carter years. Does John McCain want to try this experiment one more time?

Posted by Fareed Zakaria on April 28, 2008 7:13 AM

Comments (50)
doctor t:
Hi-
The reason nobody payed this proposal any attention is that it is so nuts. A simple sop to the anti-UN group, he appears that he would like to substitute the world with a fantasy world (like fantasy baseball) of "people like us". In the general election, I hope the other major and a bunch of the minor ones will put this back on the main burner to characterize McKie as the Lyndon Larouche of the present election.

Posted April 29, 2008 3:23 PM

Posted on April 29, 2008 15:23

HUSSEIN ELSHIBINI :
There is no doubt that the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan against the will of its people led to the demotivation of the military , exhaustion of the economy and ultimately collapse of the Soviet Empire.
This should be compared with the present American occupation ( officially called "liberation") of Iraq. After five years the actual results are as follows : a divided pro-American government whose authority does not extend beyond the so-called "Green Zone" , several thousands of American troops have lost their life , tens of thousands are disabled for life , and hundreds of thousands are presently suffering from post traumatic stress disorder. The cost of this war is having a clear impact on the American economy. I hope that the next American Administration would be responsible enough to admit that there is no country, whatever its might, with inexhaustible resources. Such a policy would be of great benefit to the US and the world as well.

Posted April 29, 2008 1:53 PM

Posted on April 29, 2008 13:53

SA:
This presidential campaign cycle has led me to lose all respect for the so-called mainstream media. It's shocking that such a proposal from McCain is ignored by the MSM. Their priorities are so skewed, it's beyond comprehension. Thank you very much for pointing out McCain's statement to us.

What happened to the McCain of 2000? This 2008 version bears no likeness I can detect.


Posted April 29, 2008 1:38 PM

Posted on April 29, 2008 13:38

Bob:
If McCain's point is that the world's democracies need a forum, any forum, to meet, discuss, and air their views, where their expression of views will not be distorted by the participation of dictatorships like Russian and China, then I strongly agree.

Perhaps NATO could be reenvisioned to become a global organization and fill this role.

Russian and China did not invite the US to participate in their Shanghai Council, or whatever it's called.

Fareed, you're grasping at straws.


Posted April 29, 2008 1:35 PM

Posted on April 29, 2008 13:35

Neocon Empire:
Why can't these politicians understand that the best way to promote democracy is to live well rather than going around invading other countries while burying our country under mountains of debts? The Soviet empire collapsed because we showed the Russians that we were far wealthier and happier under a capitalistic democracy than they could ever be under a Communist dictatorship. Now, after 8 years of neocon rule, we are broke trying to impose our values on the world. The Chinese are laughing at us.

Posted April 29, 2008 1:34 PM

Posted on April 29, 2008 13:34

counfounded by our leaders:
DAE,You left out John F (got us into Vietnam, and shagged everyone but his wife) Kennedy, Jimmy (blundering through foriegn policy, and attacked Iran and failed) Carter, and William Jefferson (bombing childrens pharmaceutical plants, shagged his secretary, and several of his aides all committed "suicide") Clinton.
You're right. When you look at these Presidents, it just makes you shudder at the depths of ineptitude, unfaithfulness, and criminal behavior.

Posted April 29, 2008 12:36 PM

Posted on April 29, 2008 12:36

MGLoraine:
One can only conclude that main-stream media is still doing the bidding of the Cheney White House. McCain goes around spouting absurd, bombastic nonsense like this every day, but it gets buried because the corporate sponsors know he sounds like a half-wit. Meanwhile, we are regaled with hour after hour of sound-bites and repetitive superficial analyses (i.e., speculation & prognostication by the usual pundits) regarding Rev. Wright and portions of comments he has made or is rumored to have made.

Rev. Wright is a man with opinions and a right to state them publicly. But he's not running for President, and he doesn't speak for or represent the candidate he is associated with. So who keeps trying to publicize Rev. Wright's every move while manipulating the coverage to conjure up some phony controversy? Who decides to plaster Rev. Wright's picture alongside dire predictions for Obama on the front page, while hiding items illustrating McCain's dementia / senility well in the back pages?

Cheney and Rove (or their wretched minions) are merely doing what they've been doing since 2000 - manipulating the media with influence peddling and intimidation in order to secure a third term for BushCo. And the media houses play right along, anything for a quick buck, a 'scoop', or an 'exclusive' interview.

Posted April 29, 2008 12:29 PM

Posted on April 29, 2008 12:29

Zathras:
A full defense of Sen. McCain's approach to foreign and national security affairs will have to come from someone other than me.

McCain has a long record in this area, one that reflects better than average judgment overall, but at the moment he appears to be a candidate in the general election who is still unsure that he really has the GOP nomination. This is reflected in a mix of positions intended to appeal to most voters (and that are generally consistent with those McCain held before the campaign began) and positions clearly adopted to appeal to the hard core of the Republican Party, the people who still admire President Bush. In an actual McCain administration, these two orientations could not coexist peacefully.

Having said that, I would point out that what we now call the G8 originated as a periodic gathering of the leaders of the major democracies. The Nixon administration thought it wise for the heads of governments sharing similar values to meet without being encumbered by hordes of staff and the restrictions of institutional protocol -- or by the participation of Communist dictatorships. This was not a radical approach, or one motivated by some new hostility to non-Western countries, but was instead an initiative to enable the democracies to increase their options to respond to challenges outside the security field in a timely way.

The G8 has grown beyond that vision; in many ways it has grown into precisely the kind of institution that Nixon's administration sought to bypass. In McCain's place I would be calling for expanding the G8 but convening it less frequently, say, every other year. In the years it did not meet I would attempt to resurrect the kind of informal council Nixon sought to create; its purpose would be less expansive than what McCain proposes, but its membership would be similar.

The fact is that China remains a country in which power is monopolized by the state, and Russia persists in seeking to undermine the independence of neighboring countries freed from the oppression of the old Soviet empire. No amount of American goodwill can paper over the serious differences between the governments of these countries and ours. Because once admitted to a large forum like the G8 their withdrawal for any reason would be regarded as a major diplomatic failure, the temptation to gloss over objectionable policy moves by either Russia or China -- whether Russian efforts to dismember Georgia or Chinese manipulation of the yuan -- would be considerable. It is therefore undesirable for an expanded G8, whether one thinks of this as "the councils of power" or not, to be the only forum in which the major powers interact with one another.

Periodic meetings among heads of government, representing major countries sharing democratic values, are a necessary and valuable thing, provided both the purposes and the limitations of such a forum are clearly understood beforehand. McCain's "League of Democracies," as he has described it, is grandiose and impractical, but contains at its core the important recognition that the free countries of the world can and should rest common action on their common values, as they have so often in the past.

Posted April 29, 2008 11:31 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 11:31

Amir:
Just wanted to say, keep up the good work, Fareed. One of the few major media people out there who actually concentrate on important things.

Posted April 29, 2008 11:31 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 11:31

lila:

Anyone who saw Bush's morning press conference

and who stil considers McCain, his foreign

policy clone , a realistic candidate---

Speak up. Show yourself to be an idiot.

The news conference was a horrid mix blundering

and outright lies. It was freaky.

Posted April 29, 2008 11:11 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 11:11

Jim Hickland:
McCain's foreign policy approach cements a completely overlooked facet of his campaign for President. What people and our vaunted press fail to think about is that we're not really going to vote for a man, we are really voting thousands of bureaucrats who will rush in to fill the policy and administrative posts. If enough people vote for McCain, then he'll appoint/nominate the same corrupt incompetant crowd that's destroyed this nation over the past 8 years. Fortunately, McCain is a senile old coot that can barely string enough sentences together to form an intelligent paragraph. Eventually people will turn on him

Jim Hickland

Posted April 29, 2008 10:34 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 10:34

Speranza:
Here's the thing. Statements like McCain's - and the absence of reaction to its absurdity - prove one thing for sure: America is now frightened of the world. If these were the words of a school boy about someone in the playground we'd have to ask, "What is he frightened of?" The answer is clear in this case. America is frightened that it has run out of juice and that it no longer has the character or wit to be able to pull itself out of the mire. It's going to be a long fall.

Posted April 29, 2008 10:32 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 10:32

Robert Myers:
US politicians, indeed US citizens need to embrace a foreign policy that isn't based on the presumption of always having foreign enemies. And, we need to significantly cut the military budget as part of this.

Posted April 29, 2008 8:27 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 08:27

DAE:
As regards foreign policy, I'm of the age where I thought that no president could be worse than LB "how many kids have you killed today" J, then came Richard "Cambodian Incursion" Nixon, who could be worse than that? How about Ronald "Iran-Contra" Reagan, and the worst of the lot now reigning. Well it seems they all may be trumped by John 'know-nothing" McCain.

Posted April 29, 2008 8:27 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 08:27

_kt_:
Could someone explain what the G8 does that is unique? We've got the WTO for trade and the UN for diplomacy. Is it just a rich guys club where we talk about how to arrange things for the benefit of the rich guys? If so, isn't that kind of obnoxious? I don't think I know enough about the G8 to evaluate McCain's proposal.

Posted April 29, 2008 6:33 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 06:33

Ali:
Some one should tell Mr. McCain that the Cold War is over and there were no winners....just two losers, one lost early and went bankrupt, the second one is following the same path.... with about a 15 year delayed, slow-motion structure.

However, polls tell us that the same majority that re-elected George Bush now support Mr. McCain and the difference with the Democrats is very small.....

Pretty bad, or down-right dangerous?

Posted April 29, 2008 3:19 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 03:19

Robert F. Zimmerman:
I suggest that Fareed come to Ukraine and Georgia to experience the first stirrings of Putin's efforts to keep these countries weak even if he cannot bring them back into his emerging Czarist Russia.

Posted April 29, 2008 1:53 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 01:53

Robert F. Zimmerman:
I suggest that Fareed come to Ukraine and Georgia to experience the first stirrings of Putin's efforts to keep these countries weak even if he cannot bring them back into his emerging Czarist Russia.

Posted April 29, 2008 1:53 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 01:53

Mark W.:
It's not radical to me, Nixon bombed Cambodia, so why would not Senator McCain suggest, "Bomb bomb Iran", talking about insensitivity to the effects of rhetoric on oil prices.

At a Highschool, McCain was challenged by a young person. His first impulse was to threaten that young person with "The Draft". May have been funny to him but people are watching.

Henry K. is a Consultant now. I wonder if he will become a revisionist historian as a paid Consultant ? Not too long about Henry hoped Arabs would be willing to form a cohesiveness relieving western boots on arab soils I would imagine. McCain said, "I won't go it alone", who knows what he would do.

Interesting thing is that Vietnam can be compared to regional limited incursions if one accepts the fact that North Vietnamese, Chinese, Laotians and Cambodians became active partners against our treaty obligations and strategic objectives, cough-cough.

Apparent to most of us looking at the planning stages of current and future detente' that everything is on hold until Elvis leaves the building for good.

Posted April 29, 2008 12:30 AM

Posted on April 29, 2008 00:30

Neocon Empire:
John McCain has always been a hawk on foreign policies. Many of his prior records demonstrated it over and over again. I agree with the main point of the article, but have to disagree on the assertion that neocons are ideologically motivated. They are not. Democracy is not what neoconservatism is about. Neocons are hostile to the democratically elected government of Palestine. They are more than happy to protect autocratic regimes like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

What neocons are trying to do is not spreading democracy, even though that may be what they say as a cover. I am going to be the kid that yell "the emperor has no clothes" since nobody else wants to say it. What the neocons aim to do is to cement a permanant world order in which the US is the center, with western Europe and its Anglo-Saxon civilization as the core of a vast empire that stretches all over the globe. Each country in the world has its predestined role.

Nations like the UK and Germany are the most trusted allies because they are afterall Anglo-Saxon. The French and Italians are part of the traditional western Judaic-Christian civilization and therefore still part of the core neocon empire. Then you have countries like Japan, which represent the less trustworthy members that play the role of agents around the world.

All great empires must have outsiders and opponents. Russia and China are naturally targets of the neocon empire. Like Japan, they are from completely different civilizations. Unlike Japan, they are not willing to submit to the "natural" order of the world of neoconservatism. What makes these two countries stand out from the rest is that they are powerful enough to threaten this order.

You can certainly explain a lot about the neocons by this vision of theirs.

Posted April 28, 2008 9:52 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 21:52

Martin Edwin Andersen:
There is so much that is admirable about Sen. McCain, but setting up an advisors' food fight while what would be an increasingly out-of-touch president presides does not seem a wise bet to me.

The neo-cons are master apparatchiks and would, once the food starts flying, likely come out on top.

The combination of Wilsonian rhetoric and gunboat tactics may sound good, but the world is too complex a place, and we will likely end up being even more isolated.

Posted April 28, 2008 8:42 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 20:42

Martin Edwin Andersen:
There is so much that is admirable about Sen. McCain, but setting up an advisors' food fight while what would be an increasingly out-of-touch president presides does not seem a wise bet to me.

The neo-cons are master apparatchiks and would, once the food starts flying, likely come out on top.

The combination of Wilsonian rhetoric and gunboat tactics may sound good, but the world is too complex a place, and we will likely end up being even more isolated.

Posted April 28, 2008 8:39 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 20:39

A sad citizen:
Once again, an extremely well written & insightful article from Fareed Zakaria. Co-existence & economic interdependence is the key to world peace & unity. Nothing would ever be achieved by excluding 2 major powers: Russia & China from G8.& Americans think that McCain is electable!! & is the US a REAL democracy??? Wake up to reality, people! We are a nation that loves to preach democratic ideals to the world when our own house is in disorder: look at Katrina, our support of dictatorial regimes ALL OVER the world, & gross disparity of wealth in this nation!

Posted April 28, 2008 7:58 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 19:58

Betty Hamilton:
This is a fabulous article, as always. Thanks for important insights and news.
I agree, McCain is confused or out to lunch. And I agree that the press is chasing pigs in a poke. Can you see the glee with which a Democrat will challenge McCain's embrace of preemptive war? No wonder the Democrats are fighting so hard for the nomination!!!

If the current world institutions do not function effectively, it is a problem with the attitudes and behaviors of the member states. Changing the sturctures will not change these attitudes. We need to get it right with the existing, though perhaps modified, structures already in place.

After all is said and done, McCain will not be able to construct new world institutions, because he is not a great coalition builder. Just like W.


If we want change, it begins with getting the external money out of governance.


Posted April 28, 2008 6:39 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 18:39

Ken:
Yes, McCain's comments were alarming, if not scary! Instead of ignoring or irritating Russia with stupid missile defense shields at a cost of millions, we need to establish a positive relationship. Include India and Brazil, OK; ignore China, McCain you must be kidding! What I really fear, which appears to be increasngly possible, is that the Democrats are going to seize "Defeat" from the jaws of "Victory" in 2008 and McCain when President will try to resolve the strategic tragedy of Iraq by attacking Iran! Then, stand by!

Posted April 28, 2008 5:48 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 17:48

Rich:
Sorry, members of the press are all busy checking lapel flags and don't have time for this...

Posted April 28, 2008 4:32 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 16:32

bala srini:
is it a sign of the future, that american senatorial candidates in the upcoming presidential election exhibit lack of vision and mission, therby confirming to the world atlarge the apathy and beginnings of decay in the senate in particular and the american politics in general.we are getting so immersed in the murky quagmirish quicksands of middle-east that we are in a self induced and self imposed and self destructive path to second-class status.we are fast approaching the third-world status in major parameters of HEALTH,&EDUCATION & HUMAN VALUES.unless there is a grass route development in promoting awareness in these important matters of fundamentals i am afraid all these talks of foreign policy might be like spitting in the wind.the apathy and general malaise got to go and the country needs to be awakened;the question is who will;i know one who won't;HILLARY FOR SURE.

Posted April 28, 2008 3:44 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 15:44

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Posted April 28, 2008 3:25 PM

Posted on April 28, 2008 15:25

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Posted April 28, 2008 3:25 PM

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Posted by: THE REV LISA NIRBAN ROY EDITOR, REFORMS INTERNATIONAL PUBLISHERS OF JUNGLE DEMOCRACIES CAT AND MOUSE | April 29, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Another proud moment in history...nobody does it like Obama! Leadership, confront adversity, give direction to purpose...all presidential characteristics...all what America needs.

Posted by: Precious | April 29, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA SUPPORTERS --

YOU HAVE TURNED US INTO HARDENED ENEMIES.

YOU WILL PAY FOR WHAT YOU DID TO THE CLINTONS.


Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

That's civil case number BC304174 in Los Angeles Superior Court.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

MD --

Obama is a racist who hates whites and thinks that he's superior to them.

He will NEVER be President.

America looks forward to him being CRUSHED along with his arrogant supporters.


Posted by: | April 29, 2008 8:35 PM
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Ms. "We", is it more like you and your "we's" are looking forward to him being "CRUSHED" because as powerful as you think you are, you weren't able to "CRUSH" him yourself--you and your band of WE'S. It must be pretty difficult having to face the fact that you are not all that you think you are. Tell me, do the we's in your camp include Obama's mother and grandmother? There is a very thin line between arrogance and confidence; what I believe is that you're on the arrogance side of the line looking at Obama's confidence and envious because you can't get what he has. Perhaps if you tried to get out of yourself, you'd find a way to confidence which would automatically cleanse you of your apparent arrogance. Obama is half white, confidence does not allow one to hate himself--there goes your theory.

You know, I'm beginning to think that you are Hillary's dike lover; you do know she has one, don't you?

Posted by: MD Voter | April 29, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

MD --

Obama is a racist who hates whites and thinks that he's superior to them.

He will NEVER be President.

America looks forward to him being CRUSHED along with his arrogant supporters.


Posted by: | April 29, 2008 8:35 PM
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Ms. "We", is it more like you and your "we's" are looking forward to him being "CRUSHED" because as powerful as you think you are, you weren't able to "CRUSH" him yourself--you and your band of WE'S. It must be pretty difficult having to face the fact that you are not all that you think you are. Tell me, do the we's in your camp include Obama's mother and grandmother? There is a very thin line between arrogance and confidence; what I believe is that you're on the arrogance side of the line looking at Obama's confidence and envious because you can't get what he has. Perhaps if you tried to get out of yourself, you'd find a way to confidence which would automatically cleanse you of your apparent arrogance. Obama is half white, confidence does not allow one to hate himself--there goes your theory.

Posted by: MD Voter | April 29, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

WE'D LIKE TO SEE HILLARY BE PRESIDENT, BUT ITS BIGGER THAN THAT NOW.

WE WANT TO SEE OBAMA LOSE MORE THAN WE WANT TO SEE HER WIN.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

"OBAMA WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT.

YOU CAN TAKE THAT TO THE BANK!!!!


Neither will Senator Clinton, since she is now on trial for fraud in Los Angeles. Sorry.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA SUPPORTERS --

BY ATTACKING THE CLINTONS SO VICIOUSLY YOU HAVE ENSURED THAT OBAMA WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT.

IF OBAMA'S THE NOMINEE, MCCAIN WILL BE THE PRESIDENT AND WE WILL ENCOURAGE HIM TO ELIMINATE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, BRING BACK THE DRAFT, ETC.

YOU WILL LOSE BIG TIME.

YOU WILL LOSE MORE THAN YOU CAN POSSIBLY IMAGINE.

YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO GO AFTER THE CLINTONS.

THAT WAS A BIG MISTAKE.

THEY ARE OUR GENERATION'S KENNEDY'S.

YOU MADE A FATAL MISTAKE BY STICKING A SHIVE IN THEM.

WE WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU.

AND WE WILL GET EVEN.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

When Obama was on TV trying to dis the Rev. Wright he reminded so much of a guy who was caught by his wife having an affair with her best friend or her cousin even, wanting so much to convince the wife that she is just imaging it and that it never happened... (while getting dressed).

Posted by: Ebonyflash | April 29, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

whatever happened to obama the unifier, the candidate who led many to believe that he would always keep the lines of communications open, and actively engage with those whose point-of-view differed from his own or that of mainstream americans?

why didnt he reach out to louis farrakhan and the millions of black muslim supporters that he represents? why didnt he bring them to the table and invite them to be part of the american mainstream conversation.

and now, senator obama has passed up another wonderful opportunity to demonstrate his skills as a negotiator, a communicator, and a facilitator by denouncing the views of the learned reverend wright; thus, turning his back on the critical issues that reverend wright raised which affect millions of blacks and minority communities throughout the united states? views that i believe are held by many in the black community (stated and unstated).

contrary to what senator obama said in philadelphia, i guess he can denounce the black community and his white grandmother. oh well, so much for true believerism. looks like we lost another potential leader and role model to the politicians.

Posted by: true believer | April 29, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

I don't give a damn what Obama says or does about his pastor. Of course he was pandering, thats what politicians must do. He was pandering when he claimed to be so involved with religion in the first place. Everyone one knows if you want to get elected to public office you better bring it with the J.C. love. The bottom line is: who is really going to bring an end to the GOP reign of ignorance? Obama, or the Hilldog? The fresh, new, inspiring figure who has politcially turned on a whole new generation, or a candidate who is possibly the most polarizing, stigmatized figure in modern politics?

Posted by: Dr. Gonzo | April 29, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

There was a gay guy who posted on one of the articles saying that Obama had dissed gays personally, so I assume that beats whatever Clinton did.

Who knows?

The important thing is that Obama's toast.

Clinton supporters HATE him and his supporters now.

We wouldn't vote for Obama if Bush or Nixon himself was running against him.

Obama and his supporters chose to make this personal.

Now, it is.

OBAMA WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT.

YOU CAN TAKE THAT TO THE BANK!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Go to www.lasuperiorcourt.org.
Look under civil cases. Click on case summaries. Search under case number BC304174.
That is all that needs to be said.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

I don't see the same media scrutiny for McCain & Clinton. Coincidence? I think not!
Lets just pretend Obama is the real deal & vote for him. Can it honestly get any worse than what it is now or get any better with either Clinton or McCain? I don't know about Obama but I do know about the other two & I wouldn't vote for more of the same because I have had a gut full of the system. Now maybe he will get caught up in the system but just maybe he may try not to. Its a no brainer with me I'd vote for the guy even if he has a crazy pastor.
P.S Just by the way anyone who has fought for their country as the Rev Wright has done can say anything they like about it. Be it whether they are happy or not. Just my opinion. Cheney & Bush were too cowardly & selfish to serve yet can send others. And you think the Rev Wright is crazy!.

Posted by: Joe C | April 29, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

"How do you know that gays think pansy is a negative term?

Maybe they think its sexy...

That's what a guy on NPR said.

Who knows?"

Well, I don't know, but the rest of the article says it is a derogatory term to gays. So does the slang dictionary. Whatever?? Leave it to the under educated Clinton supporters to not know this and to say it while standing next to her.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

I go to church about once a month. So if my minister says something controversial and potentially offensive during one of the three weeks I'm not there, I'm responsible?

The Wright controversy is a political ploy to destroy a good and decent man who would make an excellent president.

It's amazing to see the hate and poorly hidden prejudice being thrown at Obama.

The main stream Archie Bunkers in our country just can't handle seeing a person of color rising to the highest office.

The Clintons are riddled with dishonesty, corruption and are just plain nasty. Yet, because "They Look like us" the media seems to have forgotten and the Archie Bunkers nod in approval

Posted by: A de la Torre | April 29, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse


Obama is damaged - and he should as he sat there in that church and listened to that for 20 years and he didn't say a word (as if he had, there would be evidence of it by now).

He wouldn't denounce Wright when this story first broke. Now, when it seems he realizes that it is hurting his campaign, he finally decides he wants to denounce him. Obama's true colors are showing and they are not red, white and blue.

Obama is a man of convenience. But the super delegates can see that his CHANGING stories and excuses are not going to give positive REVOTES in November.

PLUS - BREAKING NEWS - OBAMA SECRETLY HAD REV WRIGHT PRAY WITH HIM BEFORE HIS RUN FOR THIS NOMINATION

WELL - THAT SAYS IT ALL

HE'S A SNEAK AND A LIAR

GOD DOES NOT WANT OBAMA

GOD DOES BLESS AMERICA

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Newsflash. All three candidates are politicians (gasp!). Obama is the one running on a platform to change the establishment, with a grass roots base and at the same time beating a much better known adversary and expert politician.

How strong is Obama? Hillary has been tied to politics for a long time in the public eye - and she still couldn't put the nomination away.

The Fox News Klan and Uncle Rush are political commentators. It is their job to stir the pot and even promote an agenda. Even if these low IQ talking heads knew the truth I doubt they would know how to speak it.

Rev Wright is just another talking head from the other extreme. He is getting an extension of his fifteen minutes. Everyone knows a noisy colleague, or relative you would prefer to stay on the sidelines. Jimmy Carter had Billy Carter. Reagan had his daughter. Bill Clinton even invited Rev Wright to the Whitehouse... This too shall pass.

Posted by: DonJulio | April 29, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

THE AMERICAN MEDIA CAN CERTAINLY PLAY BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE TO THE POINT WHERE NO WONDER THIS COUNTRY IS IN THE SHAPE IT'S IN...THE POLITICIANS HAVE THEIR FAIR SHARE ALSO..BUT AS TO OBAMA MAKING A DECISION TO ONCE AGAIN MAKE IT PLAIN FOR THOSE ADOLESCENTS WHO CAN'T SEPERATE HIS BELIEFS ON THE ISSUES FROM A PASTOR-NOBODY LIKE THE ONE WHO SPOKE AT THE NATIONAL PRESS CLUB..I OMITTED HIS NAME BECAUSE IT'S NOT WORTH CLOGGIN UP SPACE...

THIS SHOWS THAT OBAMA ONCE AGAIN WILL USE TIME AND CONTEMPLATION AND GOOD JUDGEMENT BEFORE JUMPING INTO MAKING DECISIONS BASED UPON THE OPINION OR FACTS PRESENTED!! THIS IS A MAN WHO WILL NOT RUSH US INTO WAR, RUSH INTO TO MAKING A SPEECH ABOUT RACE, RACE INTO DENOUNCING AN ASSOCIATE, THAT DESPITE HIS OLD VIEWS ALTHOUGH STILL RING AN AIR OF TRUTH OR ATLEAST THE FREEDOM TO OPEN A DISCUSSION ABOUT A LONG DARK CHAPTER IN AMERICAN HISTORY AND WORLD HISTORY AS WELL...

OBAMA KEEP MAKING THE DECISIONS ON YOUR OWN JUDGEMENT,TO BE A LEADER YOU MUST TAKE INFORMATION DECEMINATE IT AND DO YOU!!!

THIS IS NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION AND IF SO IT'S BUILT UPON THE PRINCIPLE THAT WAS DIVISIVE AND THE TRUTH IS AFICAN AMERICANS HAVE FORGIVEN THE PAST SINS OF RACISTS,,AND HAVE TRIED TO MOVE FORWARD AND HAVE DONE VERY WELL CONSIDERING THE ODDS..IT'S WHEN THE LITTLE HEAD OF RACISM POPS UP WE MUST REMIND AMERICA JUST LIKE THE JEWS OF HER HORRIBLE SINS..WE WILL NEVER FORGET NEVER.EVER..OF THE PAST SINS OF AMERICA,,IT WOULD BE AN INSULT TO OUR ANCESTORS!!! BUT WE ARE A FORGIVING PEOPLE AND BARACK OBAMA REPRESENTS THE BEST IN US AND THAT CAN ONLY SPREAD TO ALL RACES..

Posted by: Derwin | April 29, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

MAINSTREAM AMERICA CAN'T WAIT TO VOTE AGAINST BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Just so you guys know, I get a bonus for every post over 1,000 : )

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

"Outrage"!! Where was his outrage months ago when his relationship with Wright and Wright's demogogary surfaced? Where was his "outrage" during those twenty years as he listened to that c___?

All this is political expediency..dump Wright and get on with getting elected...can't do it with him, so dump him. What hypocrisy!!

Posted by: patodonn | April 29, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

JakeD --

If Obama becomes the Democratic nominee, he's going to be the best recruiting tool the Republican party ever had.

Clinton Deocrats can't wait to vote against the guy.

After the election, we'll either take back control of the Democratic Party or we'll join the Republicans and make that the new party of mainstream America.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Obama and Rev Wright are two different people. Obama has allowed him to be flawed and he need not agree with everything he says in order to receive communion or worship in his church. Many Catholics disagree profoundly with many of the stances of the church. Obama cannot stop this man on his steady slide into obscurity. I believe Obama spent all those years in his church listening to mostly (99%) of his sermons being about love, giving back to the community, black pride in terms of elevating the goals and expectations of the black community, outreach programs, fighting HIV AIDS, only to now watch in horror as this man digs a deeper hole for himself. Obama's strong condemnation of the Reverand's remarks during his press conference on 4/29 should leave no doubt that Obama has now had enough and that...
"I'm outraged by the comments that were made and saddened by the spectacle. The person that I saw yesterday was not the person I met 20 years ago. His comments were not only divisive and destructive, but they end up giving comfort to those who prey on hate. I believe they do not accurately portray the perspective of the black church. They certainly don't portray mine. If he considers this political posturing, then he doesn't know me very well. And I don't know him well either." AIDS conspiracy: "Ridiculous position." Farrakhan support and analogy of Marines/terrorism: "They offend me. They rightly offend all Americans. They should be denounced. And that's what I'm doing clearly and unequivocally here today."

I believe that Obama had probably heard some remarks considered controversial in the pulpit before (Its almost impossible not to in a passionate black church) but I do not believe Obama heard the remarks so bandied about in recent times until very recently. In his controversial sermons of the past many of his points were valid, the construction of his theories was sound in terms of the pieces of information he used (Mostly I.e.: OPV AIDS hypothesis, Tuskegee Experiment etc.) but poor were his conclusions and offensive they were to some, especially given that most Americans have never heard of Tuskegee and other historical examples of oppression. This new round of chatter by Rev. Wright seems to me to be more about ego and righteousness and is vanity pure and simple. I cannot say I blame the Rev for wanting to defend himself, but to do so now is surely more about ego and pride then a defense of his principles. I DO NOT see what this has to do with Obama. I know anyone who opposes him wants it to be but its not. Most Americans care little for this Rev. Wright squabble. They care about paying 4 bucks for gasoline, losing their homes etc. In fact I suspect that this issue is the very thing most Obama supporters wanted to eliminate in the first place. Instead of partisan bickering, swift boating, mud slinging and negativity, citizens just want results and meaningful change. Perhaps Rev Wright could have thought about that as well before he injected himself back into the conversation to yet again become a distraction to the real problems facing this country. What he now have here with Rev Wright speaking up is best summed up like this...."You're so vain. I bet you think this campaign is about you."

Posted by: feastorafamine | April 29, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

fbutler1:

It's O.K. for politicians to lie ("pander" as you like to call it)? Do you honestly think that Obama, before running for President, agreed with Wright's sermons? Does Obama STILL agree (despite his statement today)? None of that bothers you?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

So, I will ask you one last time: You are referring to white members of THIS same church, or the demonination as a whole, who have never stepped inside THIS same church?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

As long as we're throwing people under the bus, I want to push Jimmy Carter under one:)

Honestly, I do think Obama and Wright are putting on quite a minstel show. The Clintons must be sitting on their millions of dollars and having a good laugh. It's true, Bill Clinton was the first black president.

Posted by: JIM, MIAMI BEACH, FLORIDA | April 29, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

You (white) people would say that Rev. Wright is crazy, probably. No, he is a man living in the black "condition" in America, or at least what he has experienced over his lifetime.

If you actually know a holistic history of America (and not just what they feed you in school), you could put some of what he says into context for yourselves. I really like Obama and I want him to be president, but he is pandering. That's okay, too, it's necessary to pander as a politician, even as a black man. To put it another way, sometimes you have to kiss ass if you want to keep your well-paying job, or at least be agreeable, most of the time. He's the type that likes to bring people together and keep them together - and he'll keep it real when he feels it necessary like his speech in Philly - but he won't come out and agree with Wright. That's political suicide.

The truth isn't always easy to swallow, especially for a bunch of numbskulls that thought Bush was adequate for the most important leadership role in the so-called free world. Americans (usually whites) can't handle the truth. Romney said there aren't two Americas, for example. A lot of whites I know things that most blacks are in the middle class now and the rest should "pick themselves up by their own bootstraps". Why? Because many pop culture figures are black and blacks live in the suburbs, too, now? Ha.

By the way, it's not really Rev. Wright's fault these things have been brought to the fore for political (nonsensical) fodder. Blame Clinton; blame the media. Who else dug up this old news, anyway?

What do Rev. Wright's views have to do with Obama, anyway? He's not going to appoint him to the Supreme Court or a Cabinet position a la Bush (THE NOTORIOUS CRONYIST).

Wright is out there speaking now, because he knows that 1) this has been a unnecessary distraction and wants to lay things to rest, but 2) he also wants to clear his name and explain - because white people and black people say different things with the same language and a common history, apparently. It's too bad they have to turn two black men on each other, but then again, that's what they always wind up doing, in one way or another. To say that Wright was being selfish in trying to clean up his name and image, in the eyes and minds of tens of millions of strangers, that's just wrong. It's actually selfish of Obama to think that Wright shouldn't be allowed to 1) speak his mind about this country and 2) explain himself in the midst of a political campaign involving Obama himself.

Whatever your stripe, the bottom line is, you have to know that America (the government AND the people) has done some foul things in its short history - to its own people and to people (and governments) abroad. In order to mature adults, you have to accept the good (history) with the bad (history). Just because you don't like the way somebody poses their views of the bad, doesn't necessarily make them any worse of a person, and it doesn't make you any better to judge them or look down your nose at them.

Posted by: fbutler1 | April 29, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

big church:

In case you didn't know, Jeremiah Wright was the pastor of the Trinity United Church of Christ, a predominantly black church located in south Chicago. With upwards of 10,000 members, it is the largest church affiliated with the United Church of Christ, a predominantly white Christian denomination.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_United_Church_of_Christ

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Go ButchHillary!

Posted by: SingleWhiteFemaleThatGetsIntoSingleWhiteFemales | April 29, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

"But this lady right here makes Rocky Balboa look like a pansy."

She sure does. Those pants suits are getting awfully tiresome.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

How do you know that gays think pansy is a negative term?

Maybe they think its sexy...

That's what a guy on NPR said.

Who knows?

You Obama supporters are digging your own political grave by attacking the Clintons.

Keep digging. You're candidate's chances of winning the General Election are already zero.

It can't get any worse for him.

All you can do now is cause more damage to the Democratic Party.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

WOO HOO!!! 1,000 posts in less than six hours. That must be some sort of record!!!

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse


Obama embraced Rev Wright less than a month ago

He said in some ridiculously LONG speech that he could "no more disown him than he could his white grandmother".


Mr. Obama SECRETLY PRAYED WITH REV WRIGHT IN THE BASEMENT BEFORE HE ANNOUNCED HIS CAMPAIGN FOR PRESIDENT

WOW.

NO WONDER HE ISN'T GOING TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

HE IS DISHONEST WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE


HIS SPIRITUAL MENTOR IS A RABID RACIST

YES HE DID DESCRIBE THIS MAN AS HIS SPIRITUAL COUNSELOR

EVEN IF IT ISN'T CONVENIENT AND HE TELLS YOU HE ISN'T AND NEVER WAS

MR OBAMA LIKES TO "CHANGE" HIS STORY EVERY TIME HE IS CAUGHT IN A BOLD FACED LIE

NAFTA WINK-WINK? SAID IT DIDN'T HAPPEN UNTIL THE MEETING MEMO PROVED IT DID HAPPEN!!

THEN HE POINTED FINGERS AT HILLARY

THIS MAN IS AN OUTRAGEOUS CHILD !!!!

NOW IT'S IN THE NEWS THAT OBAMA SECRETLY PRAYED IN THE BASEMENT WITH A MAN WHO SAID "GOD DAMN AMERICA"

BUT HE WANTED THE WORLD AND AMERICANS TO THINK HE DIDN'T - SO HE PUBLICLY SAID HE WOULDN'T HAVE HIM ADMINISTER THE PRAYER

I GUESS REV WRIGHT SHOULD BE TICKED OFF WITH OBAMA

OBAMA TRIES TO HIDE DENY AND DISTANCE HIMSELF FROM ANYTHING ABOUT HIMSELF THAT ISN'T POLITICALLY WORKING

MR OBAMA HAS MUCH TO ANSWER FOR

BUT DON'T EXPECT THOSE ANSWERS TO BE HONEST

HE'S A MAN OF CONVENIENCE

HE THINKS HE'S ON EASY STREET

SMOOTH TALKER WILL TALK HIMSELF OUT OF TROUBLE

WOW. MOM MUST'VE LET HIM THINK THIS WORKS WITH EVERYONE

SHE MUST HAVE BEEN A PUSHOVER

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

I wish it weren't so...but deep in all
of our hearts we knew the kind of
ugliness and hate that would bubble
up with the first viable African
American candidate for president. He's
walking on new soil, and it's rocky and
uncomfortable. I'm ready for someone
to tell me things that are true. So some
people are saying his comments about
J.Wright are politically convenient. Well,
his disagreement with a gas tax
moratorium are not. This many is trying
to tell us the truth, and I for one hope
we're listening.

Posted by: Fuller | April 29, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Go Hillary!

Posted by: SingleWhiteFemaleThatGetsIntoSingleWhiteFemales | April 29, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

My Church is not half as big and my kids where babtized there and I was married there

I have no spiritual advising from my minister
just song and sermon

with only 300 members

Posted by: big church | April 29, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Heston:

May he rest in peace.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Quote: "maybe Obama didnt go to church enough"

Who cares?? Neither does most of America these days.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Hillary rules! Us biker chicks down at "Hung Jury" think she is just what America needs!

Posted by: SingleWhiteFemaleThatGetsIntoSingleWhiteFemales | April 29, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

That church in Hyde Park U of Chicago is mainly white.

check it out

Posted by: big church | April 29, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

HIS OWN WORDS:

"I was always against the Iraq war."

vs.

"The person that I saw yesterday was not the person that I had come to know over 20 years."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

From today's news.

North Carolina Gov. Mike Easley's high-profile embrace of Hillary Clinton may not play out as an unalloyed asset for her. The main sound bite he delivered in endorsing her presidential candidacyNorth Carolina Gov. Mike Easley endorsed Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton but in the process used an insulting term for gay men today sparked criticism (muted, for the most part) for being an insult to gays.

Referring to his own reputation as a hard-charging politician, he said, "I've been accused of being persistent and downright aggravating." As Clinton stood next to him in an auditorium at North Carolina University, he added, "But this lady right here makes Rocky Balboa look like a pansy."

Will these Clinton supporters never learn?? Even the governor?? There goes Clinton's gay vote.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Jake that image of mister heston is pricelsss

Posted by: charles heston | April 29, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

big church:

You are referring to white members of THIS same church, or the demonination as a whole, who have never stepped inside THIS same church?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

maybe Obama didnt go to church enough

???

Posted by: theory | April 29, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

america:

They can have you as soon as they pry the nuclear buttom from my cold dead fingers ; )

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

A lot of members of 1000 plus church of manyly white folk say they never heard the comments

Posted by: big church | April 29, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

A Republican:

I believe that Obama is telling the truth when he says he is outraged by Wright's comments (becoming public ; )

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

just In America Forclosed by China

we 30 days to move out

Posted by: america | April 29, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Quote: "CAN'T WE DO BETTER THAN THESE THREE STOOGES?"

Apparently not. What a time for a good third party candidate.
Now, let's just find one.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

MD --

Obama is a racist who hates whites and thinks that he's superior to them.

He will NEVER be President.

America looks forward to him being CRUSHED along with his arrogant supporters.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

PEACE
LOVE
in my defenselessness my safety lies

Fear and Hate only exist if I believe in them and I don't
Eternity don't scare me

go OBAMA

Posted by: its not the meat its the motion | April 29, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

I am a dyed in the wool conservative but I can tell you that Obama is telling you the truth when he says he is outraged by Wright's comments. These jaded/conspiracy under every rock people flail around striking Obama now --I temporary respite from the Government blew up the towers on 911 with explosives nutcases who believe absolute stupid crap like the government brought in AIDS to kill black people--you people FORGOT your own previous conspiracy --remember? The government brought it in to kill the gays!! If black churches embrace this hogwash they better learn what brainwash is.

Posted by: A Republican | April 29, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Mark:

It was "BREAKING" news at 3:30 PM (above) when I asked upwards "Would you be similarly upset if one of McCain's mistresses was 'allowed' to speak at the National Press Club?"

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Quote: "Obama denounced Reverend Wright. Why doesn't MCCAIN step up to the plate and repudiate Pastor John Hagee and his hateful comments. There is a double standard at work here........"

Because McCain doesn't have to denounce anyone. In fact he doesn't have to do anything else. He is the next president. The democrats have seen to that with their bickering.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Mark --

That's old news, and this isn't even about Wright anymore. Its about Obama's racism.

Even if he gets the Democratic nomination, he will NEVER win a general election.

We know who and what he is now.

He will NEVER get our votes.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

MD --

We've got a lot more.

You need Democrats more than they need you.

Hillary's got $100M.

How much do you and BrooklynGirl have in the bank?

How would you like to be drafted?

Hillary doesn't need any of you.

Neither do we.

Posted by: | April 29, 2008 7:37 PM
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Dear "We",

I have a lot more than you obviously think I have. If asked the questions "are you better off now than you were 7 years ago"; my response would be "hell yeah", and I wasn't anywhere near bad off 7 years ago. So to respond to your comment, no I don't need the Dems more than they need me, I do very well irregardless of which party is in office. My bank account??--which one? I've maxed out on my contribution to the Obama campaign and no, I'm not out bundling for him, simply because I don't feel like it, and especially because he don't need me too. Much more than can be said about your candidate. So Ms. We, Hillary may have $100 million less the $5 million that she used to prop up her dying campaign, but what is it worth when she can't afford the most precious thing for she and her Hillbilly husband--the DNC nomination. And, obviously, you will all that you have can't get it for her either. About your other question, how would I like to be drafted into Hillary's war; sorry, can't scare me with that one either--will never happen to me or my son. So take your empty threats and spew them on the lower class Republican pointed sheet wearing voters that you will be supporting come June, lol...

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Peabody3000 (and various Anonymous posters asking about my hypothetical questions):

I will gladly answer your questions just as soon as you answer mine.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

peabody3000 --

You have no idea what you're talking about.
Obams's supporters are AA's, the far left, and the very young.

The core of the Democratic Party are the white middle class and non-AA minorities who are at the political center.

The biggest block of all are white middle class voters.

They will NEVER vote for Obama now that they know what he thinks of "typical white people" who "cling to religion and guns"

Obama is toast.

Obama can't win, he can only cause Democrats to lose.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

BREAKING: The LA Times reports that Wright's press club appearance was organized by an ardent Clinton supporter, Dr. Barbara Reynolds. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to divine why. I wonder if the Post will pick up on this?

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/04/wrightsetup.html

Posted by: Mark | April 29, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

FEAR
FEAR
HATE
HATE
FEAR
FEAR
WHAT IF?
INNUENDO
FEAR
FEAR
FEAR
HATE
HATE

Bill Clinton in 2004:
"Now one of Clinton's Laws of Politics is
this: If one candidate's trying to scare
you and the other one's trying to get you
to think; if one candidate's appealing to
your fears and the other one's appealing
to your hopes, you better vote for the
person who wants you to think and hope.
That's the best."

Why is it I post this and anyone who reads it knows EXACTLY what it means and refers to?

Swift boat all you want...keep it up with your own personal 527's

It wont work this time.

Posted by: feastorafamine | April 29, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

If Obama believes that the US government created AIDS to hurt Blacks he is stupid.

I don't think he believe that.

Posted by: Zz | April 29, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

mgd1 Learn how to use a computer.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

well, you really dont seem very bright....

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

CAN'T WE DO BETTER THAN THESE THREE STOOGES?

Posted by: WHOLETRUTHY | April 29, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

There is an old saying that many an American mother has passed along that goes something like "you are judged by the company you keep so choose your friends well".

Rev. Wright was far more than just company to Obama - he married Obama and baptized Obama's children and was Obama's spiritual leader for two decades. In fact at the start of the campaign Rev. Wright was spoken of very highly by Obama.

Of course now, decades later and months after the early campaign rallies, Obama is now suddenly disagreeing with his spiritual leader. Do I trust Obama at this point? Do I believe Obama at this point? Do I want a man who followed a racist priest? My answer is "no".

Posted by: mgd1 | April 29, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

There is an old saying that many an American mother has passed along that goes something like "you are judged by the company you keep so choose your friends well".

Rev. Wright was far more than just company to Obama - he married Obama and baptized Obama's children and was Obama's spiritual leader for two decades. In fact at the start of the campaign Rev. Wright was spoken of very highly by Obama.

Of course now, decades later and months after the early campaign rallies, Obama is now suddenly disagreeing with his spiritual leader. Do I trust Obama at this point? Do I believe Obama at this point? Do I want a man who followed a racist priest? My answer is "no".

Posted by: mgd1 | April 29, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

No I wish I did have a boat. I have a Wave Rider though. A poor mans water craft...

Posted by: Gooch | April 29, 2008 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Hillary is the best candidate ever!!!

Posted by: SingleWhiteFemaleThatGetsIntoSingleWhiteFemales | April 29, 2008 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Obama doesn't have an ounce of loyalty.

Its great to see him throw everyone who's ever trusted him under the bus, drive over them, back up, and drive over them again

The guy is a bum.

Everyone who supports him will get the shaft sooner or later.

That's KARMA!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

There is an old saying that many an American mother has passed along that goes something like "you are judged by the company you keep so choose your friends well".

Rev. Wright was far more than just company to Obama - he married Obama and baptized Obama's children and was Obama's spiritual leader for two decades. In fact at the start of the campaign Rev. Wright was spoken of very highly by Obama.

Of course now, decades later and months after the early campaign rallies, Obama is now suddenly disagreeing with his spiritual leader. Do I trust Obama at this point? Do I believe Obama at this point? Do I want a man who followed a racist priest? My answer is "no".

Posted by: mgd1 | April 29, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Obama lacks a moral center. He hid Wright for a year because he clearly knew he was a liability. He is a Columbia and Harvard Law grad who spent 20 years with Wright and today he claims he wasn't aware of what this Black Liberation Theology that was at the core of his church was all about? Not plausible in the least. Just like his law student days when he thumbed his nose at paying tickets - until he got caught 20 years later. As well his attempt to hide his relationship with Rezko. Obama has never demonstrated a real moral center or courage.

Posted by: Chrissy | April 29, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

There is an old saying that many an American mother has passed along that goes something like "you are judged by the company you keep so choose your friends well".

Rev. Wright was far more than just company to Obama - he married Obama and baptized Obama's children and was Obama's spiritual leader for two decades. In fact at the start of the campaign Rev. Wright was spoken of very highly by Obama.

Of course now, decades later and months after the early campaign rallies, Obama is now suddenly disagreeing with his spiritual leader. Do I trust Obama at this point? Do I believe Obama at this point? Do I want a man who followed a racist priest? My answer is "no".

Posted by: mgd1 | April 29, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Jake D, what if you said "what if" in the courtroom after you graduate from "Stanford Law School"??

The judge would laugh you out of the courtroom.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

There is an old saying that many an American mother has passed along that goes something like "you are judged by the company you keep so choose your friends well".

Rev. Wright was far more than just company to Obama - he married Obama and baptized Obama's children and was Obama's spiritual leader for two decades. In fact at the start of the campaign Rev. Wright was spoken of very highly by Obama.

Of course now, decades later and months after the early campaign rallies, Obama is now suddenly disagreeing with his spiritual leader. Do I trust Obama at this point? Do I believe Obama at this point? Do I want a man who followed a racist priest? My answer is "no".

Posted by: mgd1 | April 29, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

obama's supporters ARE the core of the democratic party

hillary's supporters tend to be less educated, and less informed

obama can drive real change in this country

hillary can drive the US into the toilet

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

peabody3000:

Perhaps it takes someone with more EDUCATION than I have to understand how "well im quite happy to hear obama denounce the pastor" ANSWERS the question "What if Obama STILL agrees and is simply lying about it?" See you around, I guess.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

WHAT IF PIGS COULD FLY or

AND MORMANS ARE 100% right?

Posted by: what if | April 29, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

JakeD

so what is the point of your inane little question anyways.......

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Quote: "What if Obama, before running for President, agreed with Wright's "contentious" sermons? What if Obama STILL agrees and is simply lying about it? None of that would matter to you?"

What if?? What if the frog had wings?? Then he wouldn't bump his ---- every time that he hopped.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

I'm still an Obama supporter, but I'm disappointed in his total cave-in today. Despite what he said that he does not do, he "did what strategically he had to do." I wonder whether he ever cared, really cared for Wright. If he did, how could he be so unemotionally surgical in cutting him off and wonder if he would've done the same to his grandmother if she had said something that could have threatened his career? If he never really cared for Wright, he certainly used Wright to establish his Christian credentials and either borrowed or shared many of Wright's positive values: need for social change, reconciliation, transformation through the "audacity of hope" (Wright's words). Does Obama have no sense of his having dragged Wright into his political squabbles, and does he have no compassion for the vilification Wright has endured until apparently he could not yield to just being the invisible nobody the Obama campaign wanted him to be? Obama today perhaps rightly distanced himself from the inflammatory Wright assertions, though he distorted what Wright had said. Did Obama too have to denounce Wright as a person, as if suddenly he saw an evil Jekyll-Hyde in Wright? If Obama is to be taken as an authentic person, why did it take him so long to see what he now claims to have suddenly seen? I can see why Wright was angry, satirical, play-acting in the Press question period yesterday, the questioners taunting and diminshing him, not unlike the taunting of Obama in the ABC debate. Unlike Obama, Wright didn't weasel out with "Look, look" evasions. Obama has exposed a flaw in himself, a disloyalty, a willingness to sacrifice "the uncle." Okay, that's politics. So we are back in the mire. A confused Obama-supporter, I feel a sadness for Obama that he was unwilling to show (if he felt sad) and a sadness for Wright, who should not have undergone humiliation because of Obama's candidacy, but did stand up for himself and his church.

Posted by: matkeats5 | April 29, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Obama is destroying the Democratic Party.

He's driving white middle class voters out of it.

If Obama gets the nomination, you can kiss the core of the Democratic Party goodbye.

We'll go to the Republican party where they don't stick a shiv in the back of former Presidents.

We won't forget what Obama's done to the Clintons.

We'll make him and his supporters pay for what they have done.

Obama will NEVER be president.

You can take that to the bank.

Posted by: Obama is destroying the Democratic Party | April 29, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

I am not an IQ I am free
as god created me
equal
wonderful
loved by my creator

like all

Posted by: Im an not a IQ I am free | April 29, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Beni Dakar, Duluth, GA:

What if Obama, before running for President, agreed with Wright's "contentious" sermons? What if Obama STILL agrees and is simply lying about it? None of that would matter to you?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse



Los Angeles Superior Court
Case Summary


Case Number: BC304174
PETER F PAUL VS WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON

Filing Date: 10/14/2003
Case Type: Fraud (no contract) (General Jurisdiction)
Status: Pending

Future Hearings

05/13/2008 at 08:37 am in department 47 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
OSC RE: CONTEMPT

08/08/2008 at 08:31 am in department 47 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Further Status Conference

Documents Filed | Proceeding Information

Parties

CLINTON HILLARY RODHAM - Defendant/Respondent

CLINTON WILLIAM JEFFERSON - Defendant/Respondent

D. COLETTE WILSON ATTORNEY AT LAW - Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

DOYEN MICHAEL R. - Attorney for Defendant/Respondent

HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON FOR U.S. SENATE - Defendant/Respondent

KREEP GARY G. - Former Attorney for Pltf/Petn

LEVIN JAMES - Defendant/Respondent

MACHTINGER LEONARD A. - Attorney for Defendant/Respondent

NORMAN JAN B. - Associated Counsel

NORRIS STERLING E. ESQ. - Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

PAUL PETER F. - Plaintiff/Petitioner

ROSEN DAVID - Defendant/Respondent

SMITH GARY - Defendant/Respondent

TONKEN AARON - Defendant/Respondent

WILLAMS & CONNOLLY - Attorney for Defendant/Respondent

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

well im quite happy to hear obama denounce the pastor. so theres your answer, though it certainly shouldnt come as a surprise to you

i believe the Rev. Wrong could be putting on an act. i bet it wouldnt take much money or other influence to have bent that clown so far out of whack. in any event a fringe lunatic like that will find precious little support from the public

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

homes for sale cheap

EURO's only

don't give me those stinking dollars

your freindly US BANKER

Posted by: move down dot org | April 29, 2008 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a human IQ test. Anyone who supports him doesn't have one.

Posted by: Obama is a human IQ test. Anyone who supports him doesn't have one. | April 29, 2008 8:17 PM | Report abuse

From the news:
Hillary Clinton and "The Largest Election Law Fraud in History"

"Hillary Clinton's campaign appears to be in possible legal jeopardy with the introduction of a "smoking gun" video in a court case that has somehow escaped the attention of the mainstream media.

Investor's Business Daily explains that the "scandal involves allegations by movie producer Peter Paul that a 2000 senatorial fundraiser for Clinton in Hollywood violated campaign laws. Paul claims he spent $2 million to produce the fundraising event -- a de facto campaign expenditure. Under campaign law then in effect, campaign gifts were limited to $2,000."

John Armor, Election Law Expert at Equal Justice Foundation, says Hillary is involved in the "largest election law fraud in US history."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

i'm a really angry, frustrated, transvestite. oh and did i forget to mention that anyone can post as anyone else here?

Posted by: SingleWhiteFemale | April 29, 2008 8:06 PM
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hahaha, you really are angry and frustrated; never guessed you to be a transvestite, but hell...like you said, whatever floats your boat, lol...

Posted by: SingleWhiteFemale | April 29, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Wright has his own EGO to deal with.

Whats OBAMA got to do with that.

Posted by: silly season | April 29, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

I see the Fake JakeD is back ...

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Where's Huma Abedin when Hillary needs her. Come home Huma.

Posted by: Huma Huma | April 29, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

At least the BBC is not putting words into Obama's mouth, the way the U.S. press is. Obama did not denounce, repudiate, reject, or abandon Wright. HE HAS NOT SAID ANY SUCH THING. All he said is that "any relationshp I had with him as changed."
"Changed?" That's pretty weak and ambiguous if you ask me. Yet the U.S press has been putting the typical leftist, pro-Bama spin on it to make it sound like he said something far more committal than he actually did. Let the "Reverend" utter a few equally ambiguous noncomittal words of pseudo-apology and my gosh there will be such a heartfelt reconcliation.

Posted by: Geoff L. | April 29, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

I politely disaggree grace

but I love you

go OBAMA

Clinton calcualate her vote too

Posted by: its just silly season | April 29, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

This is very interesting to me, but for different reasons than the other posters. Clearly, Wright knew that his actions would have a damning effect on Obama's campaign. The question is, is Wright a)very, very stupid, or b) did he sabotage Obama on purpose? My gut is telling me b) that he knew exactly what he was doing, and this was a calculated attempted to harm Obama's campaign. I just can't believe that he could be stupid enough not to realize that. So the question is, why? If America elects a black president, does Wright lose his cred? As a black man who has suffered, does he begrudge Obama getting opportunities he didn't have? Is this some kind of personal vendetta? I would really like to know what he was thinking.

Posted by: va | April 29, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Suprising how so many who now have the Lord in their soul. Bet your local preacher, priest, rabbi would wonder when they last saw you. Give us a break, you fakers!
We'll stick with Barack, & he'll turn this mess around. Clinton's we've had our fill of. Oh, Hillary, go out a buy some clothes that we'll let us know you are a lady. With all these pants suits, you look like a guy.

Posted by: Dick | April 29, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Gooch | April 29, 2008 8:12 PM

do you have a boat named "Gooch?"

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Obama is our Savior. Obama, Ayers, and Reverend Wright are Right! God D*** america! The stupid, bitter, racist "typical white people" of pennsylvania voted for clinton. How disgusting, now they have even more blood on their hands! They ignored their opportunity to redeem themselves for their racim, and evil past -> slavery - to finally make Michelle proud. How sad. Please no hater responses, but you bitter, typical Indiana white people, please stop buying guns and save your money for my reparations check! Obama ''08, Repartions Check, ''09! http://www.npr.org/programs/specials/racism/0108 27.reparations.html

Posted by: Obamamania | April 29, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

When the controversy surrounding the comments of Democratic presidential hopeful Senator Barack Obama's pastor first became an issue in March, I thought that the media was making much of nothing and probably taking Reverend Jeremiah A. Wright's comments about "the chickens coming home to roost" concerning the tragedy of September 11th and "that AIDS was created by whites to kill black people" out of context and that the issue would soon show ridiculous and fade away. The events of the past few days have proved that Reverend Wright is not the misunderstood preacher that I thought he was and that he seems carefree in enjoying the limelight at the expense of the candidacy of the first viable black presidential candidate.

I was always troubled by the controversy about the seemingly anti-American sermons of the pastor that married the Obamas and baptized their two daughters; but was glad that if it had to happen that it occurred this spring opposed to in the fall when Obama will likely be the Democratic presidential nominee, thinking that there would be time enough for the Obama campaign to have moved on and successfully recovered from the debacle. Moreover, the speech by Obama on race that was a response to the Wright sound bites proclaiming such insanity like "God damn America", I thought was brilliant and elevated the discussion of race in America in an unprecedented way.

I respected and admired Obama that in his "race" speech that he did not abandon his former pastor (Reverend Wright), while distancing himself from Wright's contentious sermons. However, it seems that Reverend Wright does not have a since of fair play or an awareness of the high stakes involved in Obama's presidential bid. Wright seemed sane and reasonable during his pre-recorded interview with journalist Bill Moyers which played on PBS TV over the weekend; but his later live appearances at the NAACP Dinner in Detroit, Michigan and Monday at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C. indicate that he is an egomaniac and does not care about how his comments and innuendo may adversely impact on his former parishioner Obama.

I remain steadfast that Senator Clinton is the better of two extraordinarily bright and able Democratic presidential candidates (Obama being her rival); but Obama is worthy of respect and his doable candidacy for the presidency of the United States of America is a major breakthrough and milestone in the history of America and especially black Americans. What Obama has achieved in his run for the presidency is unprecedented and his achievement is not only something to be proud of, but it is changing perceptions of black people and black leaders that will benefit all black Americans throughout their many walks of life. For Reverend Wright to betray his former parishioner Obama for fifteen minutes of national fame and jeopardize his run for the Democratic presidential nomination and perhaps even ultimately for the presidency is selfish and shameful.

My hope is that the American people will not allow the self serving Reverend Wright's media appearances to negatively influence their opinion of Obama. Obama is an honorable man and he is running for the presidency to serve Americans of all backgrounds. He deserves to be evaluated by voters on his platform and the manner of man that he has shown us to be by his outstanding oratory and well managed campaign and not by the out sized ego and buffoonery of his misguided former pastor.

Posted by: Beni Dakar, Duluth, GA | April 29, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Quote: "Preachers say what they say because they're pastors. They have a different person to whom they're accountable.

As I said, whether he gets elected or not, I'm still going to have to be answerable to God November 5th and January 21st. That's what I mean. I do what pastors do. He does what politicians do."

Give it a break. A big percentage of the US doesn't attend church or believe in organized religion. Look it up.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

peabody3000:

Of course that would matter to me -- under your hypothetical scenario, both Senators should be sent to Gitmo not the Oval Office -- see how easy it is to answer?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

You Obama supporters are really drinking up the Kool-Aid tonight. Watching you all try to spin your way around this Wright mess is really something to see.

On one hand a large number of you are insisting that none of this matters at all, it's all blow out of proportion by the press (then why is Obama doing nothing but talking about it if it doesn't matter?).

On the other hand a lot of the truly disturbed Obama nuts are actually trying to defend Wrights remarks as somehow truthful, somehow based in fact and not just urban legend, something that even Barry Obama does not agree with.

But both groups still manage to slip in the usual "I hate Clinton" message or two in the spin process.

Some of the faithful are even claiming that it is somehow unfair to judge Obama because of Wright, while at the same time they are slamming Hilary for something Bill supposedly did or did not do. Hypocritical some might say - but not any of the Obama cultists. Anything goes as long as it helps Barack.

You all are spinning so fast it's starting to look like a tornado, a tornado that is blowing away any chance your candidate has at winning the nomination. It is not playing too well in Indiana - but then again you can all claim that the people there are also just a bunch of stupid racists just like the folks in Ohio and Pennsylvania.

You judge the quality of the fruit by tree if comes from. In this case Obama is the fruit, Wright is the tree.


Posted by: Gooch | April 29, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

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OBAMA`FUNDED THE WAR IN IRAQ AND HIS AIDE SAID HE WOULD WAIT AND SEE IF HE WOULD GET THE TROOPS OUT OF IRAQ.

CLINTON IS THE WAY TO GO!!

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Posted by: GRACE | April 29, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

To all those who doubt Barack Obama's sincerity, I strongly urge you to read his books, especially his first one, which really gives an excellent understanding of his focus and spirit. Believe me, Wright was only one person among many who helped him in his community organizing activities. His activities caused him to gravitate toward the Trinity church, but this is a very analytical gentleman, and he is not likely to accept everything at the Trinity church hook, line and sinker.

Posted by: Bill | April 29, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

no one is reading at this point but idiots like me

Posted by: its just silly season | April 29, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Hold on, there are a couple of drops left, slurp...slurp....OK now I am really done. Daddy wiped the rest off my face with my fake Stanford diploma!

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Quote: "P.S. I graduated at the top of my class from Stanford Law School -- I'm still not voting for Obama -- what is your education?"

Yeah right, Jake D. use some of that education to get a free spell checker.
Remind me not to send my kid to Stanford.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Folks, don't buy into this "VAST WRIGHT WING CONSPIRACY!"

MODERATOR: 'What is your motivation for characterizing Senator Obama's response to you as, quote, "what a politician had to say"? What do you mean by that?'

WRIGHT: "What I mean is what several of my white friends and several of my white, Jewish friends have written me and said to me. They've said, "You're a Christian. You understand forgiveness. We both know that, if Senator Obama did not say what he said, he would never get elected."

Politicians say what they say and do what they do based on electability, based on sound bites, based on polls, Huffington, whoever's doing the polls. Preachers say what they say because they're pastors. They have a different person to whom they're accountable.

As I said, whether he gets elected or not, I'm still going to have to be answerable to God November 5th and January 21st. That's what I mean. I do what pastors do. He does what politicians do.

I am not running for office. I am hoping to be vice president."

This time it is NOT A FAIRY TALE, but, a well crafted strategy and colloboration between OBAMA and his IMPASTOR-WRIGHT of TWENTY (20) YEARS..."A VAST WRIGHT WING CONSPIRACY" to get Obama elected and make Impastor-Wright his V.P.

Posted by: cheersdk | April 29, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

ahhh... you like hypothetical questions?

ok here's one: what if mccain and hillary are al quaeda operatives who want to destroy america?

and, would it matter to you?

hypothetically speakin'! haha. but hey i'll answer for ya... i bet it would matter to you, but youre pretty sure you dont need to say so since the whole question is actually pretty stupid

isnt it.

reminds me of the last hypothetical debate we had in this country: what if saddam has chemical weapons, yellowcake uranium, mobile weapons labs, chemical-weaponized arial drones, active nuke weapons programs, al quaeda connections, terrorist training camps, etc etc etc???

oh, he didnt? none? at all?? ah never mind then!

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Oh wow you got me on the grammer.

Get a man

Be happy.

Or get a dike whatever floats your boat.
You clearly support Obama

So you have two problems

Single and stupid

Probably explains the singlness

Hehe

Posted by: Racist | April 29, 2008 7:36 PM

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...he says as my husband and I sit here laughing at him, lol...lucky you I have a man, otherwise I might take yours, hehe...

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

I just got finished blowing my dad...yum, it was good!

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

"chippy"?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

P.S. I graduated at the top of my class from Stanford Law School -- I'm still not voting for Obama -- what is your education?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:04 PM

Yeah right. On the internet you can be anything you want to....go have fun little chippy...

Posted by: Trigger with an N | April 29, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Paul:

I assume that Barack HUSSEIN Obama listened to the whole of Rev. Wright's sermons (at least those he was personally present for ; )

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

but the laptap keyboard is killing me

Posted by: to jake | April 29, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

i'm a really angry, frustrated, transvestite. oh and did i forget to mention that anyone can post as anyone else here?

Posted by: SingleWhiteFemale | April 29, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

I was born a NUT(buckeye) moved to became a hooiser went back to OXFORS for college

Posted by: TO JAKE | April 29, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

To me, it's quite clear what is going on here; it should be clear to any individual who can put two and two together.

Reverand Wright has taken this opportunity, this national spotlight that has been shone upon him due to the campaign, to speak what is on his mind to a larger audience than what he normally drew from his congregation. He believes it his duty to preach on the national scale, to "right" some perceived wrongs within society. However, he is being very self-centered in his motives. By stepping into the national spotlight and offering up some very controversial ideas (that make many people uncomfortable, given the response he is garnered), Wright is damaging the political hopes of a man that he has known for 20 years. I understand Wright's desire to reach the masses, to preach what he believes, but he must recognize that his behavior is damaging Barack's image to people who buy into the media hype and soundbites that will be replayed over and over for at least the next few months.

I believe in every individual's right to free speech, even in this case, but I sincerely wish that Rev. Wright would recognize the rift that he is widening between different groups of people in our nation. Obama, I truly believe, seeks to repair the rifts that tear our country apart. Even if his pastor has been linked to controversial statements, that certainly does not mean that Obama himself adheres to the same conspiracy theories as Wright.

In this race for the Democratic Party's nomination, Wright has allowed his selfishness to get in the way of Barack's growth as a candidate by tying him to divisive statements. I hope that people are intelligent enough to recognize that Reverand Wright's opinions do not reflect those of Barack and that Barack's foundation is based on a quest for unity in our nation.

If the media would ignore Wright's attempts at preaching to the nation (which they won't due to their need for controversy and "hot" news), he would become a thing of the past and we could proceed with this nominating contest.

Posted by: Wright is in the wrong, Obama is right for US | April 29, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

If Obama (and the rest of the world) listened to the whole of Rev. Wright's sermons, he would be thanking him for his insights, and not condemning him. Politics by sound-bite is destroying public discourse, and the false statements and characterizations of Rev. Wright foisted on us by the press is the worst case to date. Shame on Obama for being as close-minded as Rush Limbaugh.

Posted by: Paul | April 29, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

P.S. I graduated at the top of my class from Stanford Law School -- I'm still not voting for Obama -- what is your education?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

END THE SPIRITUAL ADVISOR PRACTISE

SPIRITS FREE YOUR SELFS

NO MORE GOVERMENT SPONSORED SPIRITUAL ADVISOR PROGRAMS FUNDING BY OUR TAXES

MY SPIRIT IS FINE

LEAVE MY SPIRIT BEE

GO OBAMA

Posted by: sotp advising my spirit you idiot | April 29, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Q: When will Barack Obama be ready to become President?

A: When he can denounce Rev. Wright two more times.

Posted by: George | April 29, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

HEY EPTHORN....AND I"M USING ALL CAPS!!!

YOU NEED TO SEE A THERAPIST AND GET YOU SOME KIND OF SEDATIVE WHILE YOU'RE THERE. OBAMA IS NOT THE ONE! HE HAS TOO MANY SKELETONS IN THE CLOSET. DON'T HATE ON REV. WRIGHT. HE WAS AT LEAST BEING VERY OPEN AND HONEST SOMETHING OBAMA HAS NOT LEARNED. REV. WRIGHT HAS THE AMMO TO HANG OBAMA AND THE REST OF THE STORY HASN'T BEEN TOLD.....YET.

Posted by: Ebonyflash | April 29, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

P Diddy, your reply is appreciated and noted. As I noted, my comments were in fact directed at those who are as militant as Wright, even though my language needs refining, not at those who are not. I know several black people who are great at cooperating with whites. And I agree wholeheartedly that there are many whites who are racist. I certainly get associated with them a lot, even though that is not my sentiment (racism meaning that whites are superior to blacks or vice versa).

Having spent my early life coming aware of the peacenik civil rights movement in Hawaii, quite away from where the core of it was happening, I have been aghast at how devoid of aloha that rap and the current generation has become. It looks to me like pent up basic desire for revenge. Wright seems to have evolved embracing this environment. Obama on the other hand, based on his first book, was trying to treat the causes of the militance, using many different personalities.

Posted by: Bill | April 29, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

peabody3000:

That really didn't answer the questions. Think of them as "hypothetical" if that helps. Here they are, one last time:

1) What if Obama, before running for President, did agree with Wright's views?

2) What if Obama STILL agrees and is simply lying about it?

3) None of that would matter to you?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Sick twisted B. Hussein Osama and his nasty nose picking wife are finished. He is a freaking retard if he thinks he has a chance.

I have been laughing since yesterday at this loser's downfall and all you apologetic libs twisting yourself into pretzels once again defending the indefensible.

It's over and you know it Dems. Crawl back in your miserable little crap holes and don't come out again until 2012....LOL

Posted by: Trigger with an N | April 29, 2008 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Whats a spiritual advisor and why does my spirit need advise?

Posted by: god save my spirit | April 29, 2008 8:00 PM | Report abuse

polls consistantly show: the more educated you are, the more likely you are to vote for OBAMA

fact.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/106360/Obama-Dominates-Clinton-Among-College-Graduates.aspx

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 8:00 PM | Report abuse

anyone who's payed any unbiased attention to Senator Obama's life and views already knows that Wright's views are not Obama's.

this whole idea of guilt by association sounds an awful lot like the rationalization of the Islamic radicals who justify their terrorism against Americans.

Posted by: lou | April 29, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA AND REV. WRIGHT ARE ONE AND THE SAME. OBAMA IS REV. WRIGHTS INNER SOUL AND TELLING AMERICANS HOW HE THINKS AND FEELS. OBAMA SAT IN REV. WRIGHTS PEW FOR 22 YEARS WITH HIS FAMILY AND CHILDREN.

OBAMA IS DISHONEST ABOUT HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH REV. WRIGHT.

OBAMA IS OUT OF TOUCH AND AND AN ELITIST THAT THINKS HE CAN JUST GET THE NOMINATION NOW REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS.

EMAIL AND YOUR SENATOR AND CONGRESSMAN AND TELL THEM HILLARY CLINTON IS OUR MAN. OBAMA IS A FRAUD.

OBAMA GOT HIS MONEY FROM SADDAM HUSSEIN'S UN OIL FOR FOOD PROGRAM. READ ABOUT NADHMI AUCHI IN FORBES, WASH POST NYT,AND CHICOAGO TRIBUNE.

Posted by: GRACE | April 29, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Of course the Ill senator would say "what ever the polician says to get elected;" unless he want to commit a "polical suicide." Do we trust his "latest damage controlled." I don't, since he repeatedly said the "reverant was my spiritual advisor" for twenty years.

Posted by: kp1943@comcast.net | April 29, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

OBAMABOTS remind me of Stepford wives! You really believe OBAMA, this is so transparent, and way to late. This is NOT what OBAMA said last week. How can he be President?????

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ionFwC1UUUw

Posted by: max | April 29, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

delegate math:

Keep in mind those numbers go up if Florida and/or Michigan are counted. Also, nothing prevents the super delegates "announced" for Barack HUSSEIN Obama to retract tomorrow, if they wanted to, and all announce for Hillary DIANE Clinton.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Good Lou maybe you can hook up with SWF

Posted by: Racist | April 29, 2008 7:43 PM
-------------------------------
Actually I think he's a better fit for you...if he's fu$king you, you don't have to fu$k yourself, and one less child is being fu$ked all at the same time. There's some good you can do for this world, and I'm sure you'll get plenty of pleasure through it all.

Posted by: SingleWhiteFemale | April 29, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Vote McCain save 15% on your taxes

let the kids pay for it later

CAPITAL GAINS AT 15% TRICKLES DOWN

be patient if it not hit you yet its only been in effect for 5 years

Posted by: priviledge hedge fund manager | April 29, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

its pretty silly to suggest obama agrees with wright. obama has shown far more consistantly than any other candidate that he is a reasonable and reasoned person

i was dragged into enough churches as a kid, and priests are virtually always kooks one way or another, thats just how it is. im just glad the parents never left me alone with one of those cultists.....

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

It amazes me how dumb the American Voter is!!

Barry appeals to the black, to the young educated and everyone else.

Those that have blindly followed him into the la-la land that he is preaching, need to wake up and look around them.

The Media and Obama wants to BLAME WRIGHT for his submarining Obama over the weekend.

Obama has sat in this vipers snake pit for 20 years.. At the age of 22 he walked into the Viper's Pit with Wright. He spent 20 years... listening to the Viper, sharing thoughts and beliefs with the Viper Wright. (Like the King Cobra... spits out a vile poison for anyone who will listen.) Barry
has became immune to the poison... he has been exposed to it so long.. he thus has hidden beliefs, feelings towards Whites and Anti-America that HE CAN NOT address... because of this 20 years in the viper pit of VIPER WRIGHT. His entire family has been exposed and become part of that viper pit.

It is not guilt by association, it is guilt by lying with the Viper Wright in his Pit of young vipers... waiting to spread the Vipers truth throughout the United States.
As PRESIDENT of the United States he would be in the PRIME POSITION to spread the Viper's Poison.

WELCOME TO THE REAL HUSSEIN OBAMA AND FAMILY.

BEWARE THE BLACK WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING.

Posted by: MILLER51550 | April 29, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

A person:

You forgot about the U.S. government causing HIV/AIDS as a means of killing off African-Americans and "God D*mn America!" Also, if you have more time, isn't his middle name actually HUSSEIN? I simply use his middle name (as I do Hillary's middle name) to educate people about little known facts -- for instance, HUSSEIN means "handsome" in Arabic -- did you know that? Are you similarly upset when someone from your side calls the GOP candidate "McBush"? That isn't even his real name.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

countdown to victory
296 to 2024 Obama
433 to 2024 Clinton
408 elected 295 Supers to go

go OBAMA

Posted by: delegate math | April 29, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

lou, are you making fun of me? i thought i was the only child molester here?

Posted by: Racist | April 29, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Another thing that made Obama so bad was the fact that Jeremiah Wright told everybody that he was there Praying with the Obama family when he announced his Run for the Presidency?

What an IDIOT? Didn't he know that that was supposed to be a SECRET?

Jeremiah, YOU'RE FIRED, you are not supposed to tell the truth about that!!!

Give him 3-5 days Jeremiah will be back on your TV Screens...


Posted by: Sycamore, VA | April 29, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Well, peabody3000, we at least agree that Hillary DIANE Clinton is the wrong choice for this country -- but this Wright controversy is not going away anytime soon -- here are some pending questions:

1) What if Obama, before running for President, did agree with Wright's views?

2) What if Obama STILL agrees and is simply lying about it?

3) None of that would matter to you?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

I am so sick of reading these responses. To start, lets look at what Wright has said that makes him so controversial.

1. "America's chickens are coming home to roost."

If you saw what he was saying before that, you might understand what he was talking about.

"We took this country - by terror - away from the Sioux, the Apache, the Arrowac, the Comanche, the Arapaho, the Navajo. Terrorism. We took Africans from their country to build our way of ease and kept them enslaved and living in fear. Terrorism. We bombed Granada and killed innocent civilians, babies, non-military personnel. We bombed the black civilian community of Panama with stealth bombers and killed unarmed teenagers and toddlers, pregnant mothers and hard-working fathers. We bombed Kadafi's home and killed his child... We bombed Iraq, we killed unarmed civilians trying to make a living. We bombed a plant in Sudan to pay back for the attack on our embassy, killed hundreds of hard working people, mothers and fathers, who left home to go that day not knowing that they'd never get back home. We bombed Hiroshima. we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye. Kids playing in the playground, mothers picking up children after school, civilians, not soldiers, people just trying to make it day by day. We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and the Black South Africans, and now we are indignant. Because the stuff we have done over seas is brought back right into our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home - to roost."

Regarding Palestine, the topic is somewhat questionable. Though I believe Israel has a right to exist, Israels methods of suppressing detestable terrorists, such as Hamas, also has a negative effect on the Palestinians as a whole, such as the Gaza Strip blockade, which inadvertently fuels more anti Israel sentiment. I am not sure this counts as what one would call terrorism, but whatever. And no, I don't think this means he is an anti-semite.
Other than that, I dare you find anything in there that isn't true.
Just so you know, Kadafi is the leader of Libya who took power in a coup, but the point Wright is making is that we respond with violence and kill innocents.

Maybe I'll post more when I have the time. I would hardly call this hate speech. Also, stop calling Barack Obama Barack Hussein Obama, since the only reason you're doing that is to attach him to a negative stigma that his name has with Saddam Hussein. Its sick and racist.

Posted by: A person | April 29, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

BrooklynGirl --

This is bigger than you can possibly imagine.

Frankly, Hillary should give you guys the Obama finger and just go enjoy her money.

Then we can elect a Republican and slash social programs to the bone.

You need Democrats more than they need you.

We don't even need Democrats.

You have no idea who you're dealing with, kid.


Posted by: | April 29, 2008 7:29 PM
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Since you are so all mighty and powerful, why won't you tell her who she's dealing with. Obviously not much, because if you were as powerful as you proclaim, Hillary wouldn't be begging for $5 donations everytime she's able to get a mike from the media. What you are obviously is someone who thinks more highly of yourself than you ought to. And why the continuous comments about social programs? Are you "assuming" that BroklynGirl is in dire need of social services? How racist your comments are--but, no like Gerldine, I'm certain you don't see yourself or your comments as racist...I guess I owe you an apology, huh???

Posted by: MD Voter | April 29, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

america has paid a huge tragic price for electing another bu$h

why in the world would it want another clinton???

OBAMA '08

enough with the political dynasties

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

I pray for change.

I pray we deal with issues not associtions with a pastor of a church with 1000's of members who have never heard those stupid words and are manly white..

I pray that I can afford food and gas

I will vote for Obama

Posted by: I love Hillary Supporters | April 29, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

pastorgate is just like bittergate... political fluff... delivered like so many political fluffers crowding this board, paid to pretend that hillary isnt the wrong choice for this country

if hillary is the right candidate, then why must she lie and act at every turn??

hmmm????

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA ! Remember Larry Sinclair? If you know that you can't hide it, why didn't you drop out of the race from the beginning and save the Democratic Party hundred of millions dollars?
Larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

"I guess it is like shooting a beloved horse with a broken leg."

Please, don't give the nutjobs like ROCKY (above) any ideas!

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Right On, Senator Obama!

The choice is clear!

Choose Anger and Fear...OR...Hope and Dreams!

Senator Obama has addressed Rev. Wright's Anger and Fear.
Senator Obama will now address Hillary Clinton's Anger and Fear.

Posted by: Ricky Galileo | April 29, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Good Lou maybe you can hook up with SWF

Posted by: Racist | April 29, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

I love Obama even tho his paster says stupid things

I love Hillary even tho she says things that tiny fibs

go OBAMA

Posted by: I love Hillary Supporters | April 29, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

I am a child molester.

Posted by: lou | April 29, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Amazing moment today. It brought tears to my eyes watching Barack end his 20 year relationship with Rev Wright. It is a terrible shame but I guess it is like shooting a beloved horse with a broken leg.

Posted by: Bob, DC | April 29, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

hillary and mccain come from the same political machine

only obama is independant enough to do the right thing for this country

hillary votes for wars, mccain supports another 100 years of war in iraq

only obama had the good sense to be against the war before it was the politically expedient thing to do

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

I love Hillary and her supporters no matter what I read her.

go OBAMA

I love hillary supporters no matter what I read here.

go OBAMA

I pray for forgiveness of Rev Wrongs stupid words

I pray for change

go OBAMA

Posted by: I love Hillary Supporters | April 29, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

The "Pastor" is supposed to be the leader.

Wright is just like any other pastor, manager, security guard, policeman and politician, he wants to be the Big "Man" in the room.


"I'm not going to vote for a Barack now, beacuse his preacher says America is bad."

He just might have a reason for saying it...

This country has a lot of good qualities
and I don't want to live anywhere else. As a matter of fact, the farther South I go in America, the better I feel.

The only thing I ask any of you that may be considering voting for Obama, but is concerned about Rev. Wright, know that the USA government does NOT considered Jeremiah Wright a threat. So, you shouldn't either.

Jeremiah Wright is over 70 years old and many of you never heard of him before this campaign. That should be your biggest CLUE. If he was such a threat as LOUD as he talks you would have heard of him now.

Just like Farrakahn, when has the USA government issued a warrant for his arrest. These men are not your enemy, they are your friends. They only wants what is best for everyone.

The US Constitution and Ammendments gave Rev. Wright, Rev. Falwell, Billy Graham and Louis Farrakahn the right to practice as they choose.


Posted by: OneFreeMan | April 29, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Sounds to me like Mr Obama was asleep for most of his time at Rev Wright's church LOL! I find this so So SO funny! Interesting we don't hear much from Mamma Obama, Mrs. "proud of America for the 1st time in my adult life." Yes, he said tapping his fingertips together, "Interesting."

Posted by: Jason | April 29, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

MD --

We've got a lot more.

You need Democrats more than they need you.

Hillary's got $100M.

How much do you and BrooklynGirl have in the bank?

How would you like to be drafted?

Hillary doesn't need any of you.

Neither do we.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

mrs.:

You are, obviously, not a Hillary supporter. Nice try though ; )

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Bill, that is simply not true. There are a number of African American AND white people in this country who hold militant and racist views. Reverend Wright is one of them. As is the man quoted a week ago in the NY Times as saying, "The world is not ready for a black president."

I am neither black nor white, and I've heard my mother say many disparaging and insensitive things about African Americans, gays, and other ethnic groups.

Our one great hope is that a much smaller percentage of young people hold these views than did their parents, grandparents, and beyond.

Posted by: P Diddy | April 29, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Oh wow you got me on the grammer.

Get a man

Be happy.

Or get a dike whatever floats your boat.
You clearly support Obama

So you have two problems

Single and stupid

Probably explains the singlness

Hehe

Posted by: Racist | April 29, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Obama finally HEARD Wright. He is only 20 years too late.

Posted by: Jack Straw | April 29, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Mrs --

I'm sure you'll be very happy with President McCain.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Obama is so slick, but here the evidence he can not deny. On the TV program THE VIEW, Obama declared that Reverend Wright accepted that his view were inappropriate and mischaracterized. Then weeks later Wright goes on a national Hate America Press Tour? Just goes to prove how immature and green Obama is. And this is being generous. Watching this video one can only conclude Obama simply lied. Go ahead check it out yourselves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6J7yJ9R5p0

Posted by: Kay Lani Ray Rafko | April 29, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Jeremiah Wright has made some controversial remarks, but remember he has done some great things. So have Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. Double standard!

Posted by: Anyonebutmccain | April 29, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse


I am a Hillary Clinton supporter and a suburban professional mother of two intelligent and beautiful children ranging from 9 to 12 years old. Promoting strong Christian family values and integrity is very important to me. I have to say that I have a problem with Senator Clinton's decision to remain with her husband after he committed adultery in such a public way. I am troubled that she never offered an apology to the American people and Monica Lewinski after it was confirmed that her husband lied about the sexual involvement. This especially since Mrs. Clinton had accused ken Star of being on a right wing witch-hunt and called Monica a liar. I can understand Hillary defending her husband when she didn't have knowledge that he lied. However, she should have demonstrated character by apologizing to the American people afterwards.
I also find it troubling that she accuses Barack Obama of being guilty by third party association to rev Farrakhan. But does she really have moral standing in this area since her husband is an impeached, adultery who she decided to stay with?
My 9 year old daughter watched the Bosnia "misstatement" incident reported in the media and asked me to explain the difference between a misstatement and a Lie. It was an interesting topic and I was aware of the potential mine-field. I carefully responded to my daughter by saying:
"It is Senator Clinton's belief that she made a human mistake when she re-told the events of the Bosnia trip to be slightly different that the actual occurrence, therefore she feels it is was misstatement since her version was not changed deliberately"
My daughter followed up by asking why Mrs. Clinton repeated the incorrect version on 3 separate occasions with such specific, vivid clarity- she was also curious to know why Chelsea Clinton confirmed her mother's version to be factual when asked by the media. Why would Mrs. Clinton encourage Chelsea to lie on her behalf if it was a mistake, she queried? My daughter then asked if I was satisfied with the explanation given by the Senator. At that point I was unable to defend Mrs. Clinton any further as I too was unable to reconcile the given explanation. I immediately closed the discussion by telling my daughter that we should not be so quick to judge people.
I later had an uncomfortable feeling that I did not handle the discussion very well and attributed the reason to my belief that Senator Clinton did not demonstrate integrity with the Bosnia incident. I believe that her questionable credibility is why her negative rating is becoming a problem. I know in my heart she lied but left with the optics of the alternate choice I feel that I must continue to support her. Also, considering my priority on integrity and Christian family values- What advice can my fellow Hillary supporters offer so I can go back to my daughter and continue this important topic?


Posted by: mrs | April 29, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Every ethnic group in the United States, as we mixed our races and ethnicities, learned to cooperate and find common ground. Not blacks. Of course this is an over-generalization, perhaps a stereotype. But I am talking about blacks who are militant like Wright, who follow such angry attitudes, instead of trying to blend in, at least in a more salesman-like, more positive attitude. A black person who is cooperative is automatically labeled a Jim Crow or an Uncle Tom. I'm sure that many blacks believe Mr. Obama is such a person, yet it's hard to pin that on him, since he is half white, yet has worked in the black community, certainly fulfiling that demand to "not forget where one comes from."

I believe that much of black people's difficulty in the business and political worlds is based on a reputation for belligerence. Who wants to work with a belligerent person, white or black? Business is about deals and compromise.

I'm sorry. Is this a racist view point? I'm white.

Posted by: Bill | April 29, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

lou:

Why do you think I am a racist?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse


Mr. Obama is SUCH a con artist.

He's convinced he can talk his way out of EVERYTHING

He's convinced himself that everyone BELIEVES EVERYTHING he says.

Someone better tell him he's got that ALL WRONG

We see Obama for the con artist he is

The American Idol act for months - REFUSING to answer questions We The People were asking in this job interview

Mr. Obama thinks the Presidency is a HAND OUT

Another HAND OUT FOR OBAMA

He thinks he DESERVES THE PRESIDENCY OF THE UNITED STATES

WITHOUT ANSWERING QUESTIONS HE GOT VOTES

HE WON'T GET THEM IN NOVEMBER

SUPER DELEGATES BETTER KNOW THAT

OBAMA'S HOODWINKIN DAYS ARE DONE

HE IS SEEN FOR THE DO NOTHING, CONTINUAL DISTANCER THAT HE IS

HE THINKS HE CAN WALK AWAY AND TALK TALK TALK AWAY EVERYTHING IN HIS PAST THAT PEOPLE DON'T LIKE

MR OBAMA THINKS HE CAN TALK HIS WAY OUT OF TROUBLE

REAL EASY

MR. EASY STREET

MR. GIMMIE THAT THING I WANT

WHAT A SPOILED CHILD HE MUST HAVE BEEN

WELL - GROWN UPS ARE VOTING - AND THEY ARE SAYING

NOBAMA

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

peabody --

Keep it up and you'll get a close up look at the war.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

gbooksdc:

I was QUOTING Elieen's use of the words "sick sermons" -- while off-topic, I have no qualms with Hiroshima and Nagasaki -- and, if you care to double-check the earlier thread, I did call a foul on svreader's personal attack.

As you said "words mean things".

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

If Clinton wins the nomination, I hope she doesn't offer Obama the VP slot. Obama's not a good man.

First, he threw his grandmother under the bus. Now his pastor.

He didn't seem to notice what Wright was saying until today, when the latest polls came out.

Obama's candidacy has destroyed this man's ministry, his life of works and put him under a national microscope as the icon of black racism.

I feel sorry for the old racist. He didn't ask for any of this, and when he tries to defend himself (however inartfully), he just invokes greater vilification and threats.

He can't win. He's standing between Obama and the White House and if he doesn't shut up, Obama supporters and the media will make his life a living hell.

I do feel sorry for Wright. Welcome to the world of power. Why would Wright think a black man in power would be any different than a white man in power? it's power that corrupts, not skin color.

Posted by: Annette Keller | April 29, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

i went to a kkk meeting. no, i went to kkk meeting at least once a week. now i did not talk, i did not even listen. the head of the kkk is my mentor and i ask his opinion on things like marriage and how to raise my kids.
i give them money.
but dont say i support the kkk. dont say i agree with the kkk.
would anyone believe me if i said that?
so why do you believe obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

hillary and mccain have a lot more in common with bu$h than they do with obama

enough said..........

OBAMA '08

no more war criminals in the white house

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure I get it with the big deal over Rev Wright. Certainly, if he cares at all, friend, he is not doing Obama any favors with his nationwide media blitz. But I have lots of friends and acquaintences that have much different views than I do. If they express those views, what the heck, it does not reflect what I believe or how I would conduct my life. Let Wright be Wright and let Obama express what he DOES believe rather than trying to explain what and why he doesn't. I certainly can't explain why some of my friends believe what they do and since I'm not running for president I don't have to worry about it. The candidates should have to worry about it a lot less than they do.

Posted by: gjhinnova@yahoo.com | April 29, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

BrooklynGirl --

This is bigger than you can possibly imagine.

Frankly, Hillary should give you guys the Obama finger and just go enjoy her money.

Then we can elect a Republican and slash social programs to the bone.

You need Democrats more than they need you.

We don't even need Democrats.

You have no idea who you're dealing with, kid.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Does Obama take us all to be fools. He has been a part of this church for over 20 years and has never heard his pastor make these type of comments. This is precisely what is wrong with politics today. These politicans tell us something we know is not true and the media never follows up. This lie is worse than what Wright actually said.

Posted by: John | April 29, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

I give Obomya a month at most. People aren't going to just brush off the fact that he sat in the pews for 20 years listening to the same crap he heard over the weekend to just now have a brain fart.

Please..... he should have not denounced Wright that was stupid on his part. He should have ignored it. He spoke on it once, that should have been enough.

By denouncing now, he admits he was wrong for 20 years

Posted by: Obama gone in a month | April 29, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

The day that Fox News rolls out Donohue on a daily basis to rail against John Hagee/McCain and his anti-Semitic, anti-Catholic diatribes is that day that I start giving them -- and hacks like Lowry credit for applying standards equally.

McCain's embrace of a guy who blames Catholics for the Holocaust -- an endorsement that McCain actually sought out -- becomes a legitimate political issue.

Everybody wins.

I haven't even talked about Clinton and "The Family". God bless them.

Posted by: JP2 | April 29, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

to Jake D & the rest of you sick little racist wankers. can any of you stand up to the kind of character analysis you are dishing out? i don't think so, i don't think anyone can. your posts are just a lame exercise in trying to make yourselves feel like you are worth the air you breath. very doubtful. why don't you pencil necked twerps go back to your magazines in the bathroom?

Posted by: lou | April 29, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

I'm am racist, and your a single white female because?

Posted by: Racist | April 29, 2008 7:06 PM

Is this a question or a statement. What I know for sure is that you are a Hillary supporter. Lesson #1 I'm and I am are the same so you don't need to repeat "am" after using "I'm" and #2 your represents ownership, so are you trying to say that I own a single white female. Normally I would excuse gramatical errors in postings, but your entire post is a gramatical error. Get an education and then come back to the blog.

Posted by: SingleWhiteFemale | April 29, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

As someone based in Europe I find the use of religion in the pursuit of high office and indeed in public life more generally both disturbing and bizarrely medieval! Keep religion private and any person invoking the divine, Obama included, while pursuing the dream to lead the free world some day must be viewed with deep suspicion. Eight years of Bush is enough reminder that politics and religion do not mix. Just because Obama is liberal and left of the political spectrum doesn't somehow make the abuse of religion for narrow political gain any more acceptable. What saddens me most is the fact that his solid support base is amongst the so called 'youth', who remain immune to his lofty, pontificating, holier than thou stance from day one on the campaign trail... It seems America loves to shoot itself in the foot: First eight years of right wing religion and it now looks like the world will have to deal with left wing religious dogma!! Disheartening in the extreme!

Posted by: Ad | April 29, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

So Obama no longer needs his Pastor Jeremiah Wright huh?

What did Wright say yesterday morning that Obama didn't know already except to say that Obama himself is just another politician???

After 20 years of sitting in his pew he just know the guy? Maybe Obama looks at the polls this morning and found out that the trajectory is down. What an actor and a fraud?

My gues is that Obama's next person he'll divorce is Michelle Obama? And why is that?

For stating that America is a "MEAN" country. And for saying that she never felt proud of her country for the first time in her adult life.

Now that Jeremiah is out of the picture, the media may focus their attention back to Michelle next.

What about his BITTER comments in San Francisco? Stay tune... Maybe he just needs to divorce the Pretender Obama from REAL Obama.

What an amazing drama this has been ???

Posted by: Sycamore, VA | April 29, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

This is a pathetic little stunt.


Wright of last month is the same guy as this month.


Obama has known him for 20 years.


Posted by: Words of Wisdom | April 29, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Like any politician Obama is a shameless panderer to those from whom he hopes to illicit support. He will do whatever is necessary to gain the nomination, including changing his views in accordance with what he perceives to be prevailing opinion. Now he must denounce Rev. Wright; they discussed the likelihood of this last year as reported recently in this paper. So the hypocrisy of it should surprise only the most uninformed or otherwise naive.
Obama's story reminds me in many ways of the insipid 1986 movie "Soul Man", albeit with the key difference that Obama only started pretending to be black *after* graduating from Harvard. Despite an upbringing that was whiter and more privileged than that of most whites, he is black enough for most of the American electorate for whom it makes any difference; know wad'm sayin' "G"?
Obama--quintessentially a one-dimensional (race) candidate with nothing more going for him than charisma--has clumsily exposed another dimension of ridiculousness in America's identity politics: upper-class liberal whites will vote for him (as a black man) as long as nothing about him challenges their selective colorblindness, while blacks will vote for him en masse simply because he (says he) is black.
Now, in "response" to Wright, he has to effectively reassure voters by saying "I'm not *that* black", in his best Harvard accented English. Will black voters comprehend the gravity of this or see through Obama's long unchallenged subterfuge to ingratiate himself to them?
The cynicism of Obama's various, pathologically disturbing self-representations are as great as the stupidity of America's adoration of him is staggering.
Nevertheless, if the Wright scandal had occurred in January, Clinton's prospects for receiving the Democratic party's nomination would likely be very different indeed. Obama's exponentially increasing lack of credibility--of the destruction of formerly effective illusions--make it unlikely that he can beat McCain in November.

Posted by: MJM | April 29, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Obamabots are still drinking that kool aid. Obama is NOT a President!! Maybe a university professor, a book writer or certainly a speech maker. It's time for Obama and his supporters to admit that he is not qualified nor capable of being the President. He can get his desired millions of dollars without making all the rest of suffer for the next 4 or 8 years if he were to become President. Obama is ambitious, but ONLY for himself.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

mccain and hillary both will let the US continue to sink into the abyss that bu$h has worked so hard to create

this country needs obama

why are neocons so afraid of obama? because: saving america will cost the politically connected some money

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

When is someone going to ask the question that a white candidate would be hounded by:

Are you withdrawing from the race for President?

Posted by: Tom | April 29, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

>>> "P Diddy: Do you have children? Do you take them with you to hear your "wacko Pastor" preach? When you run for office, you can be just like Obama."

As I said, I attend the Church because a ton of folks in the community in which I live also attend. It's a great way to socialize with my neighbors, figure out a common way to get the drugs out of our neighborhood (we've come up with lots of fun ways to pester dealers around here until they get sick of us and move along), and work with the business community to eliminate club and bar-related violence. I'm not religious by any means...my personal journey on the spiritual front has a long, long way to go, I think.

In any event, your subtle sanctimony is asinine. You don't live in this neighborhood (comprised predominantly of new condos, numerous bars and clubs, and rife with homelessness and drugs in every alleyway and often in plain view). People who live here are not by any means "rich", but they are all reasonably self-sufficient and are more often than not first-time homeowners. They've saved for the bulk of their young adult lives to buy in to a good neighborhood, and yet are presented with human waste on their doorsteps every morning, needles and condoms in the alleyways, and homeless people strewn about. As someone who is something of a "community organizer" (and "rabble rouser"), the Church is one way for me to reach out to the civic-minded within the community.

Bringing it back to the point of this thread...I disagree vehemently with my preacher's point of view. But life is rarely as simplistic as you've portrayed. My preacher may be bigoted towards gays and lesbians, but he is a great conduit through which I can reach his congregation and rally them around making a positive change in the neighborhood. Likewise, I may disagree with some of the ways clubs in my neighborhood market their venues (bringing in an undesirable element), but I work with them rather than against them.

While the media (and some of the simpletons who post here) would like to portray everything as a cut and dried issue, rarely in life are things so (uh) black and white. Often, you accept an odious alternative on one hand to achieve greater progress on the other.

If I turned out to be half the man Obama is, I would consider myself lucky.

Posted by: P Diddy | April 29, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

I'm a conservative republican and plan to vote for McCain, but I heartily applaud Mr. Obama. What courage it must take to publicly denounce the words of someone you've known personally for 20 years. I see Obama's integrity and sensitivity to all races, and very much appreciate it.

Posted by: JimtheSkinsFan | April 29, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

It's too late for a retraction, he should have done this the first time this guy torpedoed him. He seems to easily influenced by this Wright guy, his judgement is very questionable. The question you must ask yourself "do you want someone influenced like this as the leader of the free world" .... Change is not enough...

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

NRO -- Tuesday, April 29, 2008

BARACK OBAMA

Obama's Philadelphia Speech Looks Ridiculous Now

To refresh, here's what Obama said in that Philadelphia speech... the first time he addressed the issue of Jeremiah Wright's controversial statements. Here are the sections on Wright:

I have already condemned, in unequivocal terms, the statements of Reverend Wright that have caused such controversy. For some, nagging questions remain. Did I know him to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course. Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes. Did I strongly disagree with many of his political views? Absolutely - just as I'm sure many of you have heard remarks from your pastors, priests, or rabbis with which you strongly disagreed.
Considering how Wright has compared the U.S. to al-Qaeda, calling him "an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic foreign policy" now sounds like comical understatement. Like calling William Ayers just a professor who lives in the neighborhood, I guess.
Given my background, my politics, and my professed values and ideals, there will no doubt be those for whom my statements of condemnation are not enough. Why associate myself with Reverend Wright in the first place, they may ask? Why not join another church? And I confess that if all that I knew of Reverend Wright were the snippets of those sermons that have run in an endless loop on the television and You Tube, or if Trinity United Church of Christ conformed to the caricatures being peddled by some commentators, there is no doubt that I would react in much the same way.
After an hour at the press club, those snippets were not refuted but reinforced. Selective editing doesn't make Wright appear extreme; Wright makes Wright appear extreme.
But the truth is, that isn't all that I know of the man. The man I met more than twenty years ago is a man who helped introduce me to my Christian faith, a man who spoke to me about our obligations to love one another; to care for the sick and lift up the poor. He is a man who served his country as a U.S. Marine; who has studied and lectured at some of the finest universities and seminaries in the country, and who for over thirty years led a church that serves the community by doing God's work here on Earth - by housing the homeless, ministering to the needy, providing day care services and scholarships and prison ministries, and reaching out to those suffering from HIV/AIDS.
When he reaches out to those suffering from HIV/AIDS, does Wright tell them the U.S. government created the virus that ails them?

And this helps explain, perhaps, my relationship with Reverend Wright. As imperfect as he may be, he has been like family to me. He strengthened my faith, officiated my wedding, and baptized my children. Not once in my conversations with him have I heard him talk about any ethnic group in derogatory terms, or treat whites with whom he interacted with anything but courtesy and respect. He contains within him the contradictions - the good and the bad - of the community that he has served diligently for so many years.

The "not once have I heard him" line sounds particularly implausible today.

I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community.
Obama has now disproven this. Also note how this statement echoes Wright's insistence that he is not being criticized, but that the entire black church is under attack.
I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother - a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.
This looked ridiculous at the time, but I wonder how Obama feels about this maddening comparison now.

These people are a part of me. And they are a part of America, this country that I love.
Some will see this as an attempt to justify or excuse comments that are simply inexcusable. I can assure you it is not. I suppose the politically safe thing would be to move on from this episode and just hope that it fades into the woodwork. We can dismiss Reverend Wright as a crank or a demagogue, just as some have dismissed Geraldine Ferraro, in the aftermath of her recent statements, as harboring some deep-seated racial bias.

But race is an issue that I believe this nation cannot afford to ignore right now. We would be making the same mistake that Reverend Wright made in his offending sermons about America - to simplify and stereotype and amplify the negative to the point that it distorts reality.

In light of events in the past 72 hours, a lot of this looks ridiculous now.

Can we dismiss Reverend Wright as a crank or a demagogue? Yes we can, no irony intended. Those of us who were shocked and appalled by those first clips of Wright's sermons were right, and Barack Obama, and all of those who accused us of judging Wright unfairly, were wrong.

UPDATE: Pollowitz notices on Obama's campaign site an invitation to "Make a donation of $30 or more before midnight on Wednesday, April 30th, and receive a DVD and limited edition print of Barack's "A More Perfect Union" speech on race in America."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Obama, his fanatical supporters and the media (i.e. Obama fanatical supporters) created this problem.

"Wright retired from his weekly preaching duties in March. Almost simultaneously, the controversy began. Since then his life has been threatened, as has his church. The media barrage was so intense that some reporters apparently called a hospice in an attempt to speak to a dying Trinity member."

Wright retired as pastor of Trinity Church after this flap first erupted in mid-March, to help Obama, and that was a big thing for him to do for Obama. But then it appears he was held responsible for Obama's loss in PA, which was Obama's failure, not Wright's. And Obama's fanatical supporters threatened him.

The harassment and threats by Obama supporters and harassment by the press wasn't Wright's job to bear.

Wright even said it clearly: he's not a politician, he's a pastor.

Obama caused this problem because he's tried to lie about what he sat there for 20 years and listen to.

The Obama campaign and the pro-Obama media has tried to pull off a snow job, deceiving the public about Obama's ties to racists and terrorists. Their efforts to spin and cover up Wright's racist and terrorist-hugging sentiments blew up in their faces when Wright came out and defended himself.

Obama, his campaign and the media is responsible for this debacle, not Wright.

Wright is who he is, for better or worse. It's not his job to eat sh-- , be publicly degraded and misrepresented and have his life destroyed to help Obama's campaign. He didn't ask to have one of his parishioners run for President, put his ministry under a national microscope, and be reduced to a figure of national disgrace as a black racist.

Obama threw his grandmother under the bus and now Wright.

Obama's an ambitious, shallow man and as far as Wright is concerned, I actually feel sorry for the old racist.

Posted by: Annette Keller | April 29, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Eileen:

What if Obama, before running for President, agreed with Wright's "sick sermons"? What if Obama STILL agrees and is simply lying about it? None of that would matter to you?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 3:29 PM
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Oh stop. When I said svliar attacked people personally, you said you didn't think he did. So I trotted out (by my memory) six examples -- cites -- of his calling people gay, including me. Not a mumbling word of denunciation for your fellow Obama-hater.

You're not intellectually honest, so there is no point in your acting as though you are reasonable. And since you called Wright's sermons -- not what he uttered over the past few days, but his sermons -- as "sick", you must endorse the genocide of the native American, the 500,000 dead Iraqis, the innocents we nuked in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Because the most conservative reading of the Commandment is "Thou shalt not murder", and I'm thinking, as those acts came pretty close to the line, God's judgment might not be too favorable on those items.

As Rush says, "words mean things."

Posted by: gbooksdc | April 29, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA SUPPORTERS ARE THE BEST RECRUITING TOOL THE REPUBLICANS EVER HAD.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Wow, you are very powerful. Funny, you can do all these things, but you just can't get enough votes to win the nomination; so you have to stoop to levels of threatening super delegates. How pathetic. Ooooow we are scared of you. One question, why are you hiding behind your post without a name? Are you the new white pointed cap?

Obama supporters --

There are more of us in New York than there are of you.

LOTS MORE.

If Obama gets the nomination, he will lose.

Then he will be indicted for what he did in Chicago.

Then he will go to jail.

Hillary will have her choice.

She can be reelected.

Or she can enjoy her $100M.

We will cut off funds for social programs.

We will bring back the draft.

We will repeat Row v Wade.

Don't you ever threaten us.

We have more people, money, and power than you do.

You have set civil rights back 50 years.

If you want a war, we will give you one.


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Posted by: MD Voter | April 29, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Glad-to-be-an-American:

And, what if he loses Indiana?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms Lewinsky." Those poignant and infamous words still resonate whenever the Clintons are mentioned. It unfortunately reminds us of when President Clinton committed purgery before the nation by lying about his sexual involvement with a young Whitehouse intern under his charge. It was a despicable sight to behold and one of the lowest points of the American Presidency. Americans watched as Mr. Clinton shamelessly attempted to assassinate the reputation, credibility and honor of the young woman by knowingly providing false witness to a grand jury. He and his wife also embarked on a campaign to demonize the counsel assigned to investigate the case by calling him a right wing conspirator on a witch-hunt.

Supporters of the president [in particular the blacks] seized upon the red-meat tossed by their leader and rallied to his defense. They were convinced by his unequivocal denial that he was innocent of the charges and remained supportive even when the grand jury investigation concluded that he was a liar and adulterer. Consequently, the integrity bankrupted President was impeached, disbarred from practicing Law and asked to resign. He however refused to turn over the reigns to Al Gore and selfishly remained in office. The imprudent decision further damaged the Democratic Party's efforts to conduct meaningful business for the remainder of his term. Additionally, his scandalous reign caused a backlash from the public and the party was punished at subsequent general elections. George Bush, in his victory speech rebuked the philandering ex-President for squandering his potential and vowed to restore "integrity" to the Whitehouse. Despite his political woes and character flaws, the charismatic Bill Clinton continued to receive overwhelming support from the naïve black community after he left the presidency. "Bill is a genuine friend and we will not abandon him during a difficult period", they posited. In appreciation for their loyalty, the ex-president established his office in Harlem and stated that he was committed to championing "black" causes.

It is now 2008 and again the polarizing Clintons who were instrumental in causing the Democrats to loose two consecutive attempts at recapturing the Whitehouse are in play. This time however, the black community saw the unmasking of the previous first family. African Americans at the beginning of the primary threw their full support behind Hillary Clinton's candidacy for president but had an awakening when the Clintons began to make comments that were deemed racially patronizing, polarizing and disrespectful. The media seized upon the change in tone and conversations began about the authenticity of the Clintons claims to be great allies of the civil rights movement. Blacks had always held the political couple in esteemed reverence and now felt betrayed. In hypocritical irony they [the blacks] recalled the Clinton's ruthless traits during the Monica Lewinsky issue but neglected to mention that they were equally guilty because of the morale support provided to the President in his efforts to crush the young, powerless and vulnerable intern. Black leaders began to murmur that the Clintons seemed to have been wolves in sheep clothing and questioned their commitment to help fulfill the dream and aspirations to ascend to the highest office in the land. Was it perhaps that the Clintons share the argument advanced in some areas that blacks are not worthy to hold such a position due to an inferior birth"?, they asked. They expressed genuine confusion at the vigorous attempts to bloody up Obama's Presidential candidacy and became soured on the once enamored Clintons. "An enemy who dwells in the disguise of a friend within one's midst is far formidable a foe than the one who can be openly identified", they posit.

But are the Clintons closeted Bigots as many observers now imply- or are they simply ruthless, selfish power hungry politicians who believe that they are entitled to rule damn the cost? Whatever the answer, it is indisputable that some of their tactical conduct in this election primary are highly questionable. Many democratic voters expressed outrage and great disappointment when the Clinton team compared New Mexico's Governor Bill Richardson to the Biblical Judas. This is a despicable label and should not be misused for political mileage by people who profess to be of Christian background, they lamented. Even-though the comment was extremely mean spirited- it unfortunately crystallizes a character assassination strategy come to be expected from the Clinton team. "It's not as if he [Bill Richardson] switched political party allegiance- he is still a committed democrat", some grumble. "The Governor should insist that the Clintons retract such a damaging, divisive and hurtful remark", chided party members. Perhaps team Clinton should be reminded that Senator Obama is a Democratic colleague and it is John McCain who is the Republican nemesis. Seemingly disillusioned, blacks tout their decades of loyalty to the party, however should Hillary get the nomination vow to show up at the voting booth come November to register their votes for McCain. After-all, it was the Clintons who departed from democratic principles by publicly endorsing John McCain to be more qualified than a colleague to lead the nation. Casting their votes to the Republicans in protest could be a major disaster for the Democratic Party- they recognize that this ethnic group's participation is necessary to win the Whitehouse. Unlike Latinos who move between parties depending on their interest of the day, blacks are the party's most reliable voting block. The Democrats worries are backed up by a Pew Research Center report that found that blacks were twice as likely now than they were in 2004 to say they had little or no confidence in the fairness and effectiveness of the political system, rising to 29 percent from 15 percent. Increasingly it seems that the party will live up to their reputation of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Posted by: Republican | April 29, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Another day, another drama. It's amazing to see CNN falling over themselves to applaud the fraud - they are so blinded by Obama that they're about to fall under the bus along with all the typical white people, Obama's grandma, Rezko and the entire caste of characters in the tragedy that Obama's campaign has become. The saddest part of all is that people are still willing to believe that this empty sack could represent America. Maybe 8 years of Bush has set our expectations so low that we now demand a POTUS who can lie to us with impunity. Barack Obama is a conman.

Posted by: MelanieL | April 29, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse


Rev. Wright is obviously drunk on the recent media attention he has received and is merely seeking to increase his fame. If Obama and Wright have been 'so close' is the past, how can Wright possibly make these claims in the knowlegde that it will damage Barak's campaign? Lets not let this man have any affect on how the public view Obama.

Posted by: Willis | April 29, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

And look who set up Wright's command performance...

HILLARY SUPPORTER AND POLITICAL DINASAUR DR. BARBARA REYNOLDS!

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/04/wrightsetup.html

Posted by: JBE | April 29, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

What the frack is up with all these annon trolls gumming up the page with their nonsensical rants and bad ascii art? Do something, WaPo! Don't you have a registration mechanism to prevent this?

Prevent anonymous cowardice!

Posted by: Mason | April 29, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Peabody3000 --

Obama will NEVER be President.
If he's the Democratic nominee, we will elect McCain President.
You have turned the people who's votes you need into hardened enemies.
You're gloating now.
We will have the last laugh!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

"Okay, if Ferraro is a racist for saying this what does Obama's comment make him?"

It doesn't make Ferraro racist. It makes her stupid for pointing out the obvious. We're not blind and she didn't need to say it.

Posted by: changingfaces | April 29, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT!!!

YOU CAN TAKE THAT TO THE BANK!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

bu$h has planted so many knives in the US' back. hillary will simply twist them, and mccain will simply let the political establishment have their way with what resources we have left

only someone like obama, a more recent newcomer than the clinton dynasty or the mccain out-of-touch exress, can pull this country out of a terrible decline

only obama was against the iraq war from the start. he knew then what 80% of americans today know now, that the war was a sham and a mistake

hillary's vote for war was bought and paid for by the status quo. she does not represent you or me. she represents the politically connected

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Looks like obama is losing his higher 'new politics' ground everday. The reality of politics sees him becoming increasingly as all politicians are, the do anything,say anything to fit with public opinion / perception.... Now he disowns his 20 + year life long friends and associates.... very loyal and straight...

Posted by: Bmolony | April 29, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Its great that Obama supporters have shown everyone their true colors (and I don't mean race!)

We hate you guys now.

We really, really, hate you.

You will reap what you have sown.

All the goodwill we felt for you is gone forever.

If Obama is the nominee, we will elect McCain.

Then, it will be payback time.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

There was a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" quality to Obama's recent situation with Rev. Wright.

Although I attended the NAACP dinner and liked Wright's speech, I was appalled and ashamed of his antics during the National Press Club Q&A. Had Wright maintained the demeanor he had the night before in Detroit or on the Bill Moyers show, Obama could have stuck with the Philadelphia race speech position. But Wright didn't. On Monday morning, he made it impossible for Obama to stay silent.

Now the dreaded deed has been done and many people on this message board are STILL not happy with Obama. I can't believe that the many outraged comments on this message board reflect genuine concerns about the relationship between Obama and Wright. I do believe some of the writers won't be satisfied until they see Obama string Wright up to a tree. Get a grip, people.

We all have high ideals and aspirations. Yet to be a human being, there are times when we have to make tough decisions and make a choice that makes us look more human than a saint. Obama made a good, mature decision today. It hurt him to do it. It hurts me. It hurts millions of people in this country.

In light of these events, I believe that as President, Obama will try to be as diplomatic as possible with other countries as long as humanly possible.

Then he will take a deep breath and send out a warning shot. If that doesn't work, then he'll ramp up the shots until he either gets their attention to be more reasonable or he retaliates with force.

This will blow over in a few days, more super delegates will announce support for Obama, he'll win in Indiana and North Carolina and he'll get the nomination in June. We'll all take a summer vacation to rest and re-group and come back together to defeat McCain in November.

Posted by: Glad-to-be-an-American | April 29, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

SingleWhiteFemale:

(Again) Those are not "racist" posts (unless you think YOUR post supposedly pointing out racism is also a "racist" post). People pretending to be racist are not racist. For instance, that was not me posting at 6:04 PM, but rather someone trying to paint me as a racist. Do you see the difference?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

He pretty much said what anyone with an open mind could ask of him. The comments above about not trusting him? You decided you can't trust him anyway. The comments about just another politician? First off, he sounded pretty sincerely hurt by all of this. Secondly, he is seeking, among other things to be the head of the Democratic Party -- you need to be a politician to do that. Hillary is a politician; the problem is she seems to be nothing but a politician. There's no moral core there.

Bottom line, he addressed the issue. It's settled, it's done. He did everything short of explicitly state, "he's dead to me, now" (which would have been pretty cool, BTW). People will obviously continue to beat it to death; they're still running the "he's a closet Muslim" bit, so obviously, reality is not entering in the picture there. Even the Clintons are backing off this, showing even they have THAT much decency.

Posted by: gbooksdc | April 29, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a fake.

This is what Obama said to the Chicago Tribune:

Obama acknowledges, with no small irony, that he benefits from his race.

If he were white, he once bluntly noted, he would simply be one of nine freshmen senators, almost certainly without a multimillion-dollar book deal and a shred of celebrity. Or would he have been elected at all?

Now, this is what Liberal icon Ferraro said that got her called a racist:

"If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman of any color, he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept."

Okay, if Ferraro is a racist for saying this what does Obama's comment make him? Either the Obama campaign is very cynical or these are a bunch of Kool-aid drinkers who are ready to assassinate the character of even liberal icons like Ms. Ferraro.

Posted by: Its 1972 all over again! | April 29, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

I'm am racist, and your a single white female because?

Posted by: Racist | April 29, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Obama, Wright, and Honesty [Rich Lowry]

What's been most disturbing about this entire episode is how dishonest Obama has been, from his pretense that he didn't know about Wright's radicalism to his excuse now that Wright has somehow become a different person. How insulting that he thinks we'd buy any of this. I was struck in the FNS interview how, when asked what controversial statements he had heard from Wright, he said Wright would talk "about some of the problems in the black community in very controversial ways." He probably did--but these were the most controversial things Obama heard? He was obviously trimming, trying to make Wright sound like an equal-opportunity hater. The simple thing for Obama to have done would have been to tell the truth from the beginning and say that he had made a mistake in staying at the church for so long, but he did so for complicated reasons that he could have spelled out in eloquent terms that would have made the press swoon. Instead, he did his dance in Philadelphia and uttered that line that will now haunt him. So now is Obama disowning the black community?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

I believe Obama. I mean c'mon. How many people see police cars outside of their neighbors house and they are being carted away for some malfesance or another and you say:

"man, I had no idea that was going on in that house."

"I went to college with him...I had no idea he was selling dope."

"They seemed like the perfect family. Who would have known that he was sexually abusing his dauhter for years?"

"He used to coach my soccor team! Who knew he was abusing children?"

"I thought the girls were being taken care of. Who knew that their mother had murdered them 4 months ago?"

"She was a devoted mother and member of my church. I had no idea she had stolen hundreds of thousands of dollars from her employer."

I mean, are you all trying to say that you REALLY know your pastor, or your teacher, or your grocery store clerk for that matter? I mean, you would THINK you know them....but really, you know where they work, what their name is and maybe a hobby or two....until you see their myspace page...or see them carted away in handcuffs...or read about their miscreant behavior in the paper.

Why is it that nobody believes that Obama does not have power to truely know the deepest soul of everyone he meets? Is he now all seeing, all knowing, able to part the waters and walk across the dry ocean bed, and be all powerful as HRC says he is?

My pastor baptised my children and married my husband and I. And I too would act shocked and suprised if I later heard her say something that I didn't believe or agree with and then repeat it. Sorry, when I miss church, I don't go back and watch the video. And Obama is a busy politician who works for his people. I doubt he is in the pews every single Sunday and hanging onto every word. (I know I don't). For me, just because she's my pastor doesn't mean that I really know her. It's like people acting like they know celebrities or something. And that celebrities know you personally too b/c you watch their movies from the audience and may have been in the same room with you during a social event. C'mon. Get real here. That's not an act.

As for Rev Wright, he just goes to prove that there are some people who just can't stand to see someone else they know be successful and will do anything to drag the other person down just to make themselves look better. Pitiful. An MLK wannabe trying to milk his 15 minutes of fame while sucking everyone dry (and maybe sucking the life out of what should have been a very promising run for the Presidency for Obama).

Posted by: changingfaces | April 29, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

I'm racist to anyone who doesn't have the balls to go out and get it for themsleves. I won't post my history but I've been through it and I'm white. My brother is married to a black woman and they have a beautiful daughter. It's not about skin color it's about the chip you carry on your shoulder that goes for whites, blacks, mexicans whoever. White people are a minority in this country period.
Obamas a fraud and I honestly don't believe he's a negro. I swear to GOD something tells me in my heart that he's got plans, bad plans for this country. If he get's voted in it will defenitely be the beginning of the end. PERIOD

Posted by: Racist | April 29, 2008 6:49 PM
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NEWSFLASH Racist! The beginning of the end started a little over 7 years ago. Where have you been, under a rock? As for whether you are a racist or not--negro, lol I can't recall the last time I heard that word being used. So your brother married a black woman and that's your justification for not being racist based upon race. I'll bet you have a pointed sheet that looks a lot like JakeD's. At least he has the balls to say he's a racist.

Posted by: SingleWhiteFemale | April 29, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

I'm racist to anyone who doesn't have the balls to go out and get it for themsleves. I won't post my history but I've been through it and I'm white. My brother is married to a black woman and they have a beautiful daughter. It's not about skin color it's about the chip you carry on your shoulder that goes for whites, blacks, mexicans whoever. White people are a minority in this country period.
Obamas a fraud and I honestly don't believe he's a negro. I swear to GOD something tells me in my heart that he's got plans, bad plans for this country. If he get's voted in it will defenitely be the beginning of the end. PERIOD

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NEWSFLASH Racist! The beginning of the end started a little over 7 years ago. Where have you been, under a rock? As for whether you are a racist or not--negro, lol I can't recall the last time I heard that word being used. So your brother married a black woman and that's your justification for not being racist based upon race. I'll bet you have a pointed sheet that looks a lot like JakeD's. At least he has the balls to say he's a racist.

Posted by: SingleWhiteFemale | April 29, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

BrooklynGirl:

No problem.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

i wonder if hillary was able to co-opt the neocon attack machine, including the network of neocon trolls, by promising not to have bu$h tried for war crimes?

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

To Texas Really Really SUCKS

I live in Dallas come get you some

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse


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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Texas internet coward, I'm in Louisiana. Tell me where you are and I'll drive over tomorrow and punch out your tooth.

Posted by: Texas Really Really SUCKS | April 29, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

MD Voter:

I'd better quit while I'm ahead then ; )

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Sorry JakeD, and the word I meant to use was "inevitable".

Posted by: BrooklynGirl | April 29, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse


OBAMA SAYS HE'S BEEN "BRIDGING" PEOPLE?


WHERE????!!!!????


NOT IN THAT CHURCH FOR TWENTY YEARS !!!


DOES HE EVEN HEAR HIMSELF?

DOES HE THINK EVEYRTHING THAT FLOWS FROM HIS MOUTH IS SUCKED UP AND "BELIEVED" BY THE SMALL TOWN TYPICAL BITTER WHITE FOLK?


HE LOVES TO HEAR HIMSELF TALK TALK TALK TALK

WHILE WE'RE ALL GETTING SICK SICK SICK SICK

OF HEARING HIM AND LOOKING AT HIM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

All the fanatical, paid Obama shills are out today, blanketing the blogs.

Posted by: Annette Keller | April 29, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

seems like the american public who just got introduced to wright knows more abour wright than Obama who sat in his church for 20 years

either Bara is dim, full of s... or.....

Posted by: lucci8 | April 29, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

JakeD

You da bomb

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse


I wonder who is paying Wright for this stupidity.

He must want McCain to win - either that or McCain is the one paying him.

Or perhaps Hillary AND McCain are BOTH paying him - you can't blame the corrupt for trying to win at any cost - remember Tonya Harding?

Now why don't you ignore that stupid piece of trouble-making slime, WaPo, and try to help America choose the president which will get it on its feet again.

If we choose anything remotely like the last one, the U.S.A. is history, as are the current administration's Zionist puppeteers in the Middle East.

Posted by: wardropper | April 29, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Your all nuts [sic]:

If Edwards, Gore, and the super delegates help Hillary to STEAL this nomination from Obama, there will be rioting and most African-Americans will never vote for another Democrat again.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:31 PM

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JakeD, finally I can almost agree with one of your rants. Except for the rioting, your comment is right on point. And for the person who suggested that the African-Americans will vote for the GOP--get real, that will never happen. Unless Hillary wins this race right out (i.e. most elected delegates, I will sit out my first election in 30 years. However, if Hillary is able to pull an upset and recover by getting enough elected delegates from the last 10 states to pull ahead of Obama, I will vote for her in November--it's as simple as that.

Posted by: MD Voter | April 29, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Obama supporters --

There are more of us in New York than there are of you.

LOTS MORE.

If Obama gets the nomination, he will lose.

Then he will be indicted for what he did in Chicago.

Then he will go to jail.

Hillary will have her choice.

She can be reelected.

Or she can enjoy her $100M.

We will cut off funds for social programs.

We will bring back the draft.

We will repeat Row v Wade.

Don't you ever threaten us.

We have more people, money, and power than you do.

You have set civil rights back 50 years.

If you want a war, we will give you one.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Obama sure has developed a stutter in the last couple of weeks.

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse


OBAMA HAS BEEN STEALING VOTES FOR MONTHS

BY NOT ANSWERING QUESTIONS ABOUT HIMSELF

A RE-VOTE IN ALL STATES IN NOVEMBER WOULD BE DISASTER NOW THAT EVERYONE CAN SEE HIM FOR WHO HE IS - AND ISN'T


SUPER DELEGATES HAVE TO SAY NO TO THAT REVOTE

OBAMA HAS LOST MOMENTUM ? OBAMA WILL LOSE IN NOVEMBER BECAUSE OF WHO HE IS, HIS STORIES AND EXCUSES.

PEOPLE ARE SICK OF HIM AND HIS "CHANGING" STORIES

ANYONE LEFT TO THROW UNDER THE BUS?

THE WHITE HAIRED TROLLS PUPPETING HIM UP BETTER WATCH OUT.

HE'LL TOSS YOU ASIDE THE MOMENT HE GETS WHAT HE WANTS

IDIOTS

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Yea we do FuK A$$ but lets see them riot you dumb sumb biotch

Posted by: to Texas Sucks | April 29, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Juan:

Get you own thread -- I'm trying to break a record with this one -- this thread is about Obama denouncing Wright.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse


THAT LIST IS JUST AFGHANISTAN - NOT IRAQ

YOU PEOPLE DON'T KNOW OR EVEN WANT TO LOOK AT WHAT A DO NOTHING IMPOSTOR OBAMA IS

WHAT A SCARY THING - NOT BEING WILLING TO SEE WHO HE IS


THE ONLY "CHANGE" OBAMA IS ABOUT IS HIS STORIES, EXCUSES AND ANSWERS


HE IS A DO NOTHING

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Maybe it would be nice if McCain denounced his "Rev.Wrights" who endorsed him!

Posted by: Juan | April 29, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

I'm racist to anyone who doesn't have the balls to go out and get it for themsleves. I won't post my history but I've been through it and I'm white. My brother is married to a black woman and they have a beautiful daughter. It's not about skin color it's about the chip you carry on your shoulder that goes for whites, blacks, mexicans whoever. White people are a minority in this country period.
Obamas a fraud and I honestly don't believe he's a negro. I swear to GOD something tells me in my heart that he's got plans, bad plans for this country. If he get's voted in it will defenitely be the beginning of the end. PERIOD

Posted by: Racist | April 29, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

BrooklynGirl:

That was not me (as I've posted several times now) who claimed "I am a racist" -- for all I know, it was you -- also, "enviable" means "So desirable as to arouse envy." Are you sure you wanted to use that word?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Texas' home of assassinations (JFK) assassins (G, H, W. Bush) a$$hats (G. W. Bush) and turds like the hump above who is frustrated at the ankle monitor he earned for that "incident" with the little boy down the street. One that confines him to his grandma's basement where she employs him rinsing out her Depends undergarments.

In case you hadn't noticed "real American" Houston, Dallas, Austin, San Antonio and elsewhere have significant Black populations...go there and pump up your chest sissy.

Posted by: Texas Sucks | April 29, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Now we know sen. Obama's life is much more complicated than what he said in his best selling books and his speeches which has fascinnated millions . His famous speech on race in Philadelpha was highly praised by many people, in which he said he could not disown his pastor as well as the black community. Now he seems to change his mind. His books and speeches seldom talked about his troublesome past Chicago connections, i.e. Rev Wright, Tony Rezko and Bill Ayers. Those are his heavy baggages in this election. Now it is time for his supporters to find out who he really is.

Posted by: austin b | April 29, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse


IRAQ VOTE - SAME AS HILLARY

John Edwards
John Kerry
Tom Daschle - HEAD OF SENATE
Christopher Dodd
Joe Lieberman
John McCain
Joe Biden
Diane Feinstein
Trent Lott
Richard Lugar
Harry Reid
Rockefeller
Schumer

STUFF THE SICKO POSTINGS ABOUT DEAD PEOPLE


US SOLDIERS WHO HAVE DIED SINCE OBAMA HAS BEEN CHAIRMAN OF OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE ON AFGHANISTAN

A YEAR AND A HALF - NOT ONE SINGLE MEETING

THESE BOYS AND WOMEN DIED WHILE HE'S BEEN "TOO BUSY" - WITH HIS OWN LIFE . THEY ARE DEAD !

4/2/08 Sgt. Nicholas Robertson, Old Town, Maine 27
3/23/08 Tech. William H. Jefferson, Norfolk, Virginia 34
3/21/98 Staff Sgt. William R. Neil, Hamden, New Jersey 38
3/19/08 Pfc. Antione V. Robinson, Detroit, Michigan 20
3/14/08 Staff Sgt. collin J. Bowen, Millersville, Maryland 38
3/8/08 Sgt. Gabriel Guzman, Hornbrook, California 25
3/3/08 Sgt. Robert T. Rapp, Sonora, California 22
3/3/08 Spec. Seven R. Koch, Milltown, New Jersey 23
2/5/08 Staff Sgt. Donald T. Tabb, Norcross, Georgia 29
1/26/08 Sgt. 1st Class Matthew R. Kahler, Granite Falls, Minnesota 29
1/25/08 Staff Sgt. Robert J. Miller, Iowa City, Iowa 24
1/11/08 Lt. Col. Richard J. Berrettini, Wilcox, Pennsylvania 52
1/9/08 Sgt. David J. Krakulich, Reno, Nevada 22
1/7/08 Maj. Michael L. Green, Gautier, Mississippi 36
1/7/08 Sgt. James K. Healy, Hesperia, California 25
1/2/08 Sgt. Shawn F. Hill, Wllford, South Carolina 37
12/24/07 Senior Airman Nicholas D. Eischen, Sanger, California, 24
12/12/07 Cpl. Joshua C. Blaney, Mattews, North Carolina 25
12/12/07 Staff Sgt. Michael J. Gabel, Baton Rouge, Louisiana 30
12/11/07 Staff Sgt. Gregory L. Elam, Columbus, Georgia 39
12/9/07 Cpl. Tanner J. O'Leary, Eagle Butte, South Dakota 23
11/13/07 2nd Lt. Stuart F. Liles, Hot Springs, Arkansas 26
11/12/07 Spec. Adrian E. Hike, Callender, Iowa 26
11/12/07 Capt. David A Boris, Pottsville, Pennsylvania 30
11/10/07 Staff Sgt. Patrick F. Kutschbach, McKees Rocks, Pennsylvania 25
11/10/07 Sgt. Jeffery S. Mersman, Parker, Kansas 23
11/10/07 Pfc. Joseph M. Lancour, Swartz Creek, Michigan 21
11/10/07 Spec. Lester G. Roque, Torrance, California 23
11/9/07 Sgt. Phillip A. Bocks, Troy, Michigan 28
11/9/07 Spec. Sean K. Langevin, Walnut Creek, California 23
11/9/07 1st Lt. Matthew C. Ferrara, Torrance, California 24
11/2/07 Sgt. 1st Class Johnny C. Walls, Bremerton, Washington 41
10/30/07 Staff Sgt. James D. Bullard, Marion, South Carolina 28
10/29/07 Maj. Jeffrey R. Calero, Queens Village, New York 34
10/28/07 Master Sgt. Thomas L. Bruner, Owensboro, Kentucky 50
10/27/07 Staff Sgt. Joseph F. Curreri, Los Angeles, California 27
10/26/07 Sgt. Joshua C. Brennan, Ontario, Oregon 22
10/25/07 Spec. Hugo V. Mendoza, Glendale, Arizona 29
10/23/07 Sgt. Edward O. Philpot, Latta, South Carolina 38
10/23/07 Staff Sgt. Larry I. Rougle, West Jordan, Utah 25
10/6/07 Spec. Adam D. Quinn, Orange City, Florida 22
10/2/07 Petty Officer Third Class Mark R. Cannon, Lubbock, Texas 31
9/29/07 Sgt. Zachary D. Telliler, Charlotte, North Carolina 31
9/28/07 Spec. Ciara M. Durkin, Quincy, Massachusetts 39
9/26/07 Pfc. Mathew D. Taylor, Cameron Park, California 21
9/25/07 Petty Officer 2nd Class Charles Luke Milam, Littleton, Colorado 26
9/25/07 Pfc. Christopher F. Pfeifer, Spalding, Nebraska 21
9/23/07 Sgt. 1st Class Matthew D. Blaskowski, Levering, Michigan 27
9/9/07 Cpl. Travis M. Woods, Redding, California 21
9/6/07 Pfc. Mykel F. Miller, Phoenix, Arizona 19
9/4/07 Master Sgt. Patrick D. Magnani, Martinez, California 38
8/28/07 Sgt. Bryce D. Howard, Vancouver, Washington 24
8/28/07 Sgt. Cory L. Clark, Plant City, Florida 25
8/28/07 Sgt. 1st Class Rocky H. Herrera, Salt Lake City, Utah 43
8/27/07 Pfc. Thomas R. Wilson, Mauertown, Virginia 21
8/27/07 Sgt. Jan M. Argonish, Peckville, Pennsylvania 26
8/27/07 Master Sgt. Scott R. Ball, Mount Holly Springs, Pennsylvania 38
8/27/07 Maj. Henry S. Ofeciar, Agana Heights, Guam 37
8/26/07 Staff Sgt. Nicholas R. Carnes, Dayton, Kentucky 25
8/24/07 Sgt. 1st Class Daniel E. Miller, Rossford, Ohio 43
8/24/07 Sgt. 1st Class Scott M. Carney, Ankeny, Iowa 37
8/20/07 Spec. George V. Libby, Aberdeen, North Carolina 23
8/12/07 Pvt. Alan J. Austin, Houston, Texas 21
8/12/07 Sgt. 1st Class Jeffrey D. Kettle, Madill, Oklahoma 31
8/12/07 Staff Sgt. Jesse G. Clowers Jr., Herndon, Virginia 27
8/12/07 Sgt. Charles B. Kitowski III, Farmers Branch, Texas 31
8/11/07 Pfc. Jordan E. Goode, Kalamazoo, Michigan 21
8/2/07 Sgt. Taurean T. Harris, Liberty, Mississippi 22
7/31/07 1st Lt. Benjamin J. Hall, Fredericksburg, Virginia 24
7/27/07 Staff Sgt. William R. Fritsche, Martinville, Indiana 23
7/27/07 Maj. Thomas G. Bostick Jr., Llano, Texas 37
7/23/07 Pfc. Zachary R. Endsley, Spring, Texas 21
7/23/07 Pfc. Jessy S. Rogers, Cooper Center, Alaska 20
7/23/07 Spec. Adam J. Davis, Twin Falls, Idaho 19
7/23/07 Sgt. Travon T. Johnson, Palmdale, California 29
7/23/07 1st Sgt. Michael S. Curry Jr., Dania Beach, Florida 37
7/22/07 Pfc. Juan S. Restrepo, Pembroke Pines, Florida 20
7/9/07 Master Sgt. Randy J. Gillespie, Coaldale, Colorado 44
7/7/07 Sgt. 1st Class Sean K. Mitchell, Monterey, California 35
7/6/07 Sgt. Thomas P. McGee, Hawthorne, California 23
7/5/07 Spec. Christopher S. Honaker, Havelock, North Carolina 23
7/5/07 Pfc. Joseph A. Miracle, Ortonville, Michigan 22
6/23/07 Capt. Darrell C. Lewis, Washington DC, 31
6/21/07 Sgt. Dustin J. Perrott, Fredericksburg, Virginia 23
6/17/07 Sgt. 1st Class John M. Hennen, Vinton, Louisiana 26
6/17/07 Capt. Joshua E. Steele, North Henderson, Illinois 26
6/17/07 Sgt. 1st Class Christopher D. Henderson, Hillsboro, Oregon 35
6/16/07 Staff Sgt. Roy P. Lewsader Jr., Belleville, Illinois 36
6/15/07 Master Sgt. Arthur L. Lilley, Smithfield, Pennsylvania 35
6/6/07 Sgt. Charles E. Wyckoff Jr., Chula Vista, California 28
6/5/07 Pfc. Timothy R. Vimoto, Fort Campbell, Kentucky 19
6/2/07 Spec. Jacob M. Lowell, New Lenox, Illinois 22
6/1/07 Sgt. Charles R. Browning, Tucson, Arizona 31
6/1/07 Lt. Col. Michael A. Robinson, Sylacauga, Alabama 42
5/30/07 Chief Warrant Officer Joshua R. Rodgers, Carson City, Nevada 29
5/30/07 Sgt. Brandon E. Hadaway, Valley, Alabama 25
5/30/07 Sgt. Jesse A. Blamires, West Jordan, Utah 25
5/30/07 Staff Sgt. Charlie L. Bagwell, Lake Toxaway, North Carolina 28
5/30/07 Chief Warrant Officer Christopher M. Allgaier, Middelton, Missouri 33
5/15/07 Staff Sgt. Joshua R. Whitaker, Long Beach, California 23
5/14/07 Maj. Larry J. Bauguess Jr., Moravian Falls, North Carolina 36
5/8/07 Sgt. Timothy P. Padgett, Defuniak Springs, Florida 28
5/6/07 Col. James W. Harrison Jr., Missouri 47
5/6/07 Master Sgt. Wilberto Sabalu Jr., Chicago, Illinois 36
5/3/07 Pfc. Joseph G. Harris, Sugar Land, Texas 19
4/28/07 Cpl. Jeremy R. Greene, Springfield, Ohio 24
4/27/07 Staff Sgt. Michael D. Thomas, Seffner, Florida 34
4/27/07 Spec. Daniel F. Mehringer, Morgantown, West Virginia 20
4/20/07 Sgt. Alexander Van Aalten, Monterey, Tennessee 21
4/12/07 Sgt. David A. Stephens, Tullahoma, Tennessee 28
4/12/07 Staff Sgt. Casey D. Combs, Auburn, Washington 28
4/11/07 Sgt. Edelman L. Hernandez, Hyattsville, Maryland 23 (enlistment had ended)
4/8/07 Cpl. Conor G. Masterson, Woodbury, Minnesota 21
3/29/07 Spec. Christopher M. Wilson, Bangor, Maine 24
3/29/07 Spec. Agustin Gutierrez, San Jacinto, California 19
3/29/07 Sgt. Edmund W. McDonald, Casco, Maine 25
3/5/07 Sgt. Christopher J. Fernandez, Dededo, Guam 28
3/5/07 Sgt. Gregory D. Dejeran, Barrigada, Guam 28
2/27/07 Pfc. Daniel Zizumbo, Chicago, Illinois 27
2/21/07 Pfc. Jason D. Johns, Frankton, Indiana 19
2/19/07 Sgt. Buddy J. Hughie, Poteau, Oklahoma 25
2/18/07 Chief Warrant Officer Hershel D. McCants Jr., Clarksville, Tennessee 33
2/18/07 Tech. Sgt. Scott E. Duffman, Albuquerque, New Mexico 32
2/18/07 Chief Warrant Officer John A. Quinlan, New Jersey 36
2/18/07 Sgt. Adam A. Wilkinson, Fort Carson, Colorado 23
2/18/07 Spec. Travis R. Vaughn, Reinbeck, Iowa 26
2/18/07 Spec. Brandon D. Gordon, Naples, Florida 21
2/18/07 Pfc. Ryan C. Garbs, Edwardsville, Illinois 20
2/18/07 Pfc. Kristofer D. Thomas, Roseville, California 18
2/15/07 Cpl. Timothy D. Lewis, Lawrenceburg, Kentucky 20
2/12/07 Petty Officer 2nd Class Laquite Pate James, Orange Park, Florida 23
2/10/07 Sgt. Long N. Nguyen, Portland, Oregon 27


MR. OBAMA HAS NO HISTORY OF CHANGE IN HIS CHURCH OR POLITICAL LIFE

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA SUPPORTERS --

IF YOU FORCE OBAMA ON US WE WILL ELECT MCCAIN.

THEN, IT WILL BE PAYBACK TIME.

WE WILL END AFFIRMATIVE ACTION.

WE WILL END SOCIAL PROGRAMS.

WE WILL END FUNDS TO SUPPORT INNER CITIES.

WE WILL FUND LOTS MORE POLICE.

WE WILL GIVE POLICE MILITARY WEAPONS.

WE WILL BRING BACK THE DRAFT.

WE WILL SEND YOU TO THE FRONT LINES IN IRAQ.

WE WILL MAKE YOU PAY FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TO US.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

So will you explain to me here Barack Obama
as to how your going to United the country
after you were exposed as a fraud and liar
and a "Divider" NOT a "Uniter" now then?
As after all didn't President George W Bush
run on his being a "Uniter" and look what'
that got us after the press failed to vet
Bush properly,just like the media failed
to vet this pathological liar crooked phony
empty suit Barack Hussein Obama now then!

Posted by: Sandy5274 | April 29, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Please, keep posting "+dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead" over and over (at least until we get this thread over 1,000 posts ; )

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse


Obama can't tackle BIG problems.

He just HAS them !!!

What a joke !!

He's never done one significant thing in his entire Equal Opportunity Life.

He's Mr. EASY STREET

Mr. Rezko QUARTER MILLION DOLLAR CHICAGO POLITICIAN

Does this list look like "DIFFERENT DC" ??

DASHEL
KERRY
BRADLEY
KENNEDY
LEAHY
DODD
ROCKAFELLER
RICHARDSON
PELOSI

MR. OBAMA IS A DC PLAYER

MR. OBAMA WAS A CHICAGO PLAYER

MR. OBAMA TAKES MONEY MONEY MONEY
AND HELP HELP HELP

FROM THE OLD BOYS CLUB AND ESTABLISHMENT POLITICANS

WHAT A BUNCH OF FOOLS IF YOU'RE SWALLOWING HIS LINES

HAHAHAHAHA

WHAT NUMMIES

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Looks like obama is losing his higher 'new politics' ground everday. The reality of politics sees him becoming increasingly as all politicians are, the do anything,say anything to fit with public opinion / perception.... Now he disowns his 20 + year life long friends and associates.... very loyal and straight...

Posted by: Bmolony | April 29, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

"Yea when you jiggaboos get ready to riot bring ya a$$ to Texas and see what happens. You can get away with that crap in NY or CA come on down here where the real Americans are and see what happens."

Posted by: | April 29, 2008 6:38 PM

You see, now THAT might just be a true racist comment (or, again, it could be someone who is NOT a racist but pretending to be one ; )

Either way, it should be deleted from the thread per agreed-upon rules and WaPo Terms of Use. I'm sure it will be shortly. That was my "point" above.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

I know he didn't want to and that it hurt but he had to.

It reminds me of the situation a parishioner who contributed to the church and who attended Mass every Sunday would find himself if he found that his priest, his confessor, was molesting altar boys. The betrayal must be horrible.

Posted by: Karen | April 29, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Voted For the War

4,000+ U.S. SOLDIER KILLED

+dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead +dead
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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Wow, lot's of mastabatory Clearasil basted trolls posting in CAPS because one hand is occupied under the desk. The virulent racists are doubtless panty wastes who don't have a Black living within 60 miles of their inbred communities and would load their diapers at the notion of a walk in an inner city neighborhood.

I do believe in Karma. Didn't always but when folks who messed with me over time started having awful things happen to them I quit taking my own vengeance and learned patience. I've no doubt that you cousin humpers will get yours. I do wish you were standing in front of me though.

Posted by: Ol' Whiteguy | April 29, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Obama says:

"I have spent my entire adult life trying to bridge the gap between different kinds of people. That's in my DNA, trying to promote mutual understanding,"

Where, when and how? He never did a thing since he has been in the Senate to bridge anything...

Posted by: gooch | April 29, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Jack D, calm down Tiger, don't you go blowing up any black churches. You're racist, we get it. Frankly my dear, I don't give a d*mn. But you're not going to stop sh*t, much less any black person from reaching the Oval Office. You racist haven't stopped blacks from doing a GD thing so don't get beside yourself with any false hopes that there are enough of you to stop the enviable...you gave us an ape with a cowboy hat for 8 years that completely f*cked up the country so the chaos you seek was already created by your last presidential choice

Posted by: BrooklynGirl | April 29, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse


THIS IS WHAT IS CRIMINAL -

OBAMA CHAIRMAN OF THE SENATE OVERSIGHT COMMITTED ON AFGHANISTAN FOR A YEAR AND A HALF NOW

NOT ONE MEETING

IN THAT YEAR AND A HALF THE DO NOTHING HAS DONE NOTHING:

132 BRAVE UNITED STATES SERVICE MEN AND WOMEN HAVE DIED IN AFGHANISTAN

WHILE MR. OBMA WAS "TOO BUSY" TO HOLD ONE MEETING OF THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE ON AFGHANISTAN. A COMMITTEE HE BRAGGED ABOUT. I GUESS THAT'S WHAT HE THINKS COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS ARE FOR -- SHOW.

WHILE HE WAS TOO BUSY WITH HIS CAMPAIGN TO DO HIS JOB - THESE BRAVE AMERICANS GAVE THEIR LIVES.


4/2/08 Sgt. Nicholas Robertson, Old Town, Maine 27
3/23/08 Tech. William H. Jefferson, Norfolk, Virginia 34
3/21/98 Staff Sgt. William R. Neil, Hamden, New Jersey 38
3/19/08 Pfc. Antione V. Robinson, Detroit, Michigan 20
3/14/08 Staff Sgt. collin J. Bowen, Millersville, Maryland 38
3/8/08 Sgt. Gabriel Guzman, Hornbrook, California 25
3/3/08 Sgt. Robert T. Rapp, Sonora, California 22
3/3/08 Spec. Seven R. Koch, Milltown, New Jersey 23
2/5/08 Staff Sgt. Donald T. Tabb, Norcross, Georgia 29
1/26/08 Sgt. 1st Class Matthew R. Kahler, Granite Falls, Minnesota 29
1/25/08 Staff Sgt. Robert J. Miller, Iowa City, Iowa 24
1/11/08 Lt. Col. Richard J. Berrettini, Wilcox, Pennsylvania 52
1/9/08 Sgt. David J. Krakulich, Reno, Nevada 22
1/7/08 Maj. Michael L. Green, Gautier, Mississippi 36
1/7/08 Sgt. James K. Healy, Hesperia, California 25
1/2/08 Sgt. Shawn F. Hill, Wllford, South Carolina 37
12/24/07 Senior Airman Nicholas D. Eischen, Sanger, California, 24
12/12/07 Cpl. Joshua C. Blaney, Mattews, North Carolina 25
12/12/07 Staff Sgt. Michael J. Gabel, Baton Rouge, Louisiana 30
12/11/07 Staff Sgt. Gregory L. Elam, Columbus, Georgia 39
12/9/07 Cpl. Tanner J. O'Leary, Eagle Butte, South Dakota 23
11/13/07 2nd Lt. Stuart F. Liles, Hot Springs, Arkansas 26
11/12/07 Spec. Adrian E. Hike, Callender, Iowa 26
11/12/07 Capt. David A Boris, Pottsville, Pennsylvania 30
11/10/07 Staff Sgt. Patrick F. Kutschbach, McKees Rocks, Pennsylvania 25
11/10/07 Sgt. Jeffery S. Mersman, Parker, Kansas 23
11/10/07 Pfc. Joseph M. Lancour, Swartz Creek, Michigan 21
11/10/07 Spec. Lester G. Roque, Torrance, California 23
11/9/07 Sgt. Phillip A. Bocks, Troy, Michigan 28
11/9/07 Spec. Sean K. Langevin, Walnut Creek, California 23
11/9/07 1st Lt. Matthew C. Ferrara, Torrance, California 24
11/2/07 Sgt. 1st Class Johnny C. Walls, Bremerton, Washington 41
10/30/07 Staff Sgt. James D. Bullard, Marion, South Carolina 28
10/29/07 Maj. Jeffrey R. Calero, Queens Village, New York 34
10/28/07 Master Sgt. Thomas L. Bruner, Owensboro, Kentucky 50
10/27/07 Staff Sgt. Joseph F. Curreri, Los Angeles, California 27
10/26/07 Sgt. Joshua C. Brennan, Ontario, Oregon 22
10/25/07 Spec. Hugo V. Mendoza, Glendale, Arizona 29
10/23/07 Sgt. Edward O. Philpot, Latta, South Carolina 38
10/23/07 Staff Sgt. Larry I. Rougle, West Jordan, Utah 25
10/6/07 Spec. Adam D. Quinn, Orange City, Florida 22
10/2/07 Petty Officer Third Class Mark R. Cannon, Lubbock, Texas 31
9/29/07 Sgt. Zachary D. Telliler, Charlotte, North Carolina 31
9/28/07 Spec. Ciara M. Durkin, Quincy, Massachusetts 39
9/26/07 Pfc. Mathew D. Taylor, Cameron Park, California 21
9/25/07 Petty Officer 2nd Class Charles Luke Milam, Littleton, Colorado 26
9/25/07 Pfc. Christopher F. Pfeifer, Spalding, Nebraska 21
9/23/07 Sgt. 1st Class Matthew D. Blaskowski, Levering, Michigan 27
9/9/07 Cpl. Travis M. Woods, Redding, California 21
9/6/07 Pfc. Mykel F. Miller, Phoenix, Arizona 19
9/4/07 Master Sgt. Patrick D. Magnani, Martinez, California 38
8/28/07 Sgt. Bryce D. Howard, Vancouver, Washington 24
8/28/07 Sgt. Cory L. Clark, Plant City, Florida 25
8/28/07 Sgt. 1st Class Rocky H. Herrera, Salt Lake City, Utah 43
8/27/07 Pfc. Thomas R. Wilson, Mauertown, Virginia 21
8/27/07 Sgt. Jan M. Argonish, Peckville, Pennsylvania 26
8/27/07 Master Sgt. Scott R. Ball, Mount Holly Springs, Pennsylvania 38
8/27/07 Maj. Henry S. Ofeciar, Agana Heights, Guam 37
8/26/07 Staff Sgt. Nicholas R. Carnes, Dayton, Kentucky 25
8/24/07 Sgt. 1st Class Daniel E. Miller, Rossford, Ohio 43
8/24/07 Sgt. 1st Class Scott M. Carney, Ankeny, Iowa 37
8/20/07 Spec. George V. Libby, Aberdeen, North Carolina 23
8/12/07 Pvt. Alan J. Austin, Houston, Texas 21
8/12/07 Sgt. 1st Class Jeffrey D. Kettle, Madill, Oklahoma 31
8/12/07 Staff Sgt. Jesse G. Clowers Jr., Herndon, Virginia 27
8/12/07 Sgt. Charles B. Kitowski III, Farmers Branch, Texas 31
8/11/07 Pfc. Jordan E. Goode, Kalamazoo, Michigan 21
8/2/07 Sgt. Taurean T. Harris, Liberty, Mississippi 22
7/31/07 1st Lt. Benjamin J. Hall, Fredericksburg, Virginia 24
7/27/07 Staff Sgt. William R. Fritsche, Martinville, Indiana 23
7/27/07 Maj. Thomas G. Bostick Jr., Llano, Texas 37
7/23/07 Pfc. Zachary R. Endsley, Spring, Texas 21
7/23/07 Pfc. Jessy S. Rogers, Cooper Center, Alaska 20
7/23/07 Spec. Adam J. Davis, Twin Falls, Idaho 19
7/23/07 Sgt. Travon T. Johnson, Palmdale, California 29
7/23/07 1st Sgt. Michael S. Curry Jr., Dania Beach, Florida 37
7/22/07 Pfc. Juan S. Restrepo, Pembroke Pines, Florida 20
7/9/07 Master Sgt. Randy J. Gillespie, Coaldale, Colorado 44
7/7/07 Sgt. 1st Class Sean K. Mitchell, Monterey, California 35
7/6/07 Sgt. Thomas P. McGee, Hawthorne, California 23
7/5/07 Spec. Christopher S. Honaker, Havelock, North Carolina 23
7/5/07 Pfc. Joseph A. Miracle, Ortonville, Michigan 22
6/23/07 Capt. Darrell C. Lewis, Washington DC, 31
6/21/07 Sgt. Dustin J. Perrott, Fredericksburg, Virginia 23
6/17/07 Sgt. 1st Class John M. Hennen, Vinton, Louisiana 26
6/17/07 Capt. Joshua E. Steele, North Henderson, Illinois 26
6/17/07 Sgt. 1st Class Christopher D. Henderson, Hillsboro, Oregon 35
6/16/07 Staff Sgt. Roy P. Lewsader Jr., Belleville, Illinois 36
6/15/07 Master Sgt. Arthur L. Lilley, Smithfield, Pennsylvania 35
6/6/07 Sgt. Charles E. Wyckoff Jr., Chula Vista, California 28
6/5/07 Pfc. Timothy R. Vimoto, Fort Campbell, Kentucky 19
6/2/07 Spec. Jacob M. Lowell, New Lenox, Illinois 22
6/1/07 Sgt. Charles R. Browning, Tucson, Arizona 31
6/1/07 Lt. Col. Michael A. Robinson, Sylacauga, Alabama 42
5/30/07 Chief Warrant Officer Joshua R. Rodgers, Carson City, Nevada 29
5/30/07 Sgt. Brandon E. Hadaway, Valley, Alabama 25
5/30/07 Sgt. Jesse A. Blamires, West Jordan, Utah 25
5/30/07 Staff Sgt. Charlie L. Bagwell, Lake Toxaway, North Carolina 28
5/30/07 Chief Warrant Officer Christopher M. Allgaier, Middelton, Missouri 33
5/15/07 Staff Sgt. Joshua R. Whitaker, Long Beach, California 23
5/14/07 Maj. Larry J. Bauguess Jr., Moravian Falls, North Carolina 36
5/8/07 Sgt. Timothy P. Padgett, Defuniak Springs, Florida 28
5/6/07 Col. James W. Harrison Jr., Missouri 47
5/6/07 Master Sgt. Wilberto Sabalu Jr., Chicago, Illinois 36
5/3/07 Pfc. Joseph G. Harris, Sugar Land, Texas 19
4/28/07 Cpl. Jeremy R. Greene, Springfield, Ohio 24
4/27/07 Staff Sgt. Michael D. Thomas, Seffner, Florida 34
4/27/07 Spec. Daniel F. Mehringer, Morgantown, West Virginia 20
4/20/07 Sgt. Alexander Van Aalten, Monterey, Tennessee 21
4/12/07 Sgt. David A. Stephens, Tullahoma, Tennessee 28
4/12/07 Staff Sgt. Casey D. Combs, Auburn, Washington 28
4/11/07 Sgt. Edelman L. Hernandez, Hyattsville, Maryland 23 (enlistment had ended)
4/8/07 Cpl. Conor G. Masterson, Woodbury, Minnesota 21
3/29/07 Spec. Christopher M. Wilson, Bangor, Maine 24
3/29/07 Spec. Agustin Gutierrez, San Jacinto, California 19
3/29/07 Sgt. Edmund W. McDonald, Casco, Maine 25
3/5/07 Sgt. Christopher J. Fernandez, Dededo, Guam 28
3/5/07 Sgt. Gregory D. Dejeran, Barrigada, Guam 28
2/27/07 Pfc. Daniel Zizumbo, Chicago, Illinois 27
2/21/07 Pfc. Jason D. Johns, Frankton, Indiana 19
2/19/07 Sgt. Buddy J. Hughie, Poteau, Oklahoma 25
2/18/07 Chief Warrant Officer Hershel D. McCants Jr., Clarksville, Tennessee 33
2/18/07 Tech. Sgt. Scott E. Duffman, Albuquerque, New Mexico 32
2/18/07 Chief Warrant Officer John A. Quinlan, New Jersey 36
2/18/07 Sgt. Adam A. Wilkinson, Fort Carson, Colorado 23
2/18/07 Spec. Travis R. Vaughn, Reinbeck, Iowa 26
2/18/07 Spec. Brandon D. Gordon, Naples, Florida 21
2/18/07 Pfc. Ryan C. Garbs, Edwardsville, Illinois 20
2/18/07 Pfc. Kristofer D. Thomas, Roseville, California 18
2/15/07 Cpl. Timothy D. Lewis, Lawrenceburg, Kentucky 20
2/12/07 Petty Officer 2nd Class Laquite Pate James, Orange Park, Florida 23
2/10/07 Sgt. Long N. Nguyen, Portland, Oregon 27

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Senator Obama wants to move beyond petty distractions:
""What's troubling is the gap between our challenges and the smallness of our politics--the ease at which we are distracted by the petty and trivial, our chronic avoidance of tough decisions, our seeming inability to build a working consensus to tackle any big problem" ---Barack Obama: AUDACITY OF HOPE (2006)

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse


Turn out the lights...Obamasama....
the party's over....

hahahhahahaha

What a lying sack o' youknowwhat!

He lies so much even Wright can't stand him.

hahahahahahahahahahahahah.....

Posted by: Typical White Person | April 29, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

KIDS NEED TO LEARN MANNERS AND RESPECT.

THE ARMY IS THE BEST PLACE TO TEACH THEM.

MAKE MILITARY SERVICE A REQUIREMENT FOR EVERYONE AGES 18-24.

END STUDENT LOAN ASSISTANCE.

REPEAL ROW V WADE.

END SOCIAL PROGRAMS.

ITS OUR MONEY.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE ANY MORE OF IT TO YOU YOUNG JERKS!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Yea when you jiggaboos get ready to riot bring ya a$$ to Texas and see what happens. You can get away with that crap in NY or CA come on down here where the real Americans are and see what happens.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Change? Change? you want change? You think that Obama is going to be BETTER than the lying cheating pocket lining democrats and republicans... Guess what, he just wants to join the club, get his tee time on the slimeball politicians country club links. He is just as bad as all the rest and in many ways worse because he doesn't say ANYTHING of substance. Not that he'd abide by what he said, when would a politician honor their promises? This country is on a down slide and picking up speed. BHO, HRC and JM are just the sleigh drivers.

Posted by: robel | April 29, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Change? Change? you want change? You think that Obama is going to be BETTER than the lying cheating pocket lining democrats and republicans... Guess what, he just wants to join the club, get his tee time on the slimeball politicians country club links. He is just as bad as all the rest and in many ways worse because he doesn't say ANYTHING of substance. Not that he'd abide by what he said, when would a politician honor their promises? This country is on a down slide and picking up speed. BHO, HRC and JM are just the sleigh drivers.

Posted by: robel | April 29, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

BRING BACK THE DRAFT!!!!

SEND ALL THE OBAMA SUPPORTERS TO THE FRONT LINES IN IRAQ!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

FEAR
FEAR
HATE
HATE
ANGER
ANGER
FEAR
FEAR

Bill Clinton in 2004:
"Now one of Clinton's Laws of Politics is
this: If one candidate's trying to scare
you and the other one's trying to get you
to think; if one candidate's appealing to
your fears and the other one's appealing
to your hopes, you better vote for the
person who wants you to think and hope.
That's the best."

Posted by: feastorafamine | April 29, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Dan:

As I am sure you know, Rev. Wright is not a super delegate.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Looks like John Edwards and his wife are fixing to go Clinton. Then you get Gore on board and it's all over but the crying

Posted by: Your all nuts | April 29, 2008 6:28 PM
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When Gore goes Clinton, then all Hell will freeze over. Remember he was their first victim, he'll never fall for their phonism again. You're just dreaming on this one--admit it.

Excuse me now, I have to go; I've finally found myself under sniper fire and must call my "I didn't have sexual relations with that woman" husband--Billie Bob.

Posted by: SingleWhiteFemale | April 29, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse


THE IRAQ VOTE JUST KEEPS COMING UP FOR SOME IDIOT HERE

THE VOTE WAS: 77 Yea 23 Nay
OBAMA WAS IN ILLINOIS - NOT THE DC SENATE


THOSE WHO VOTED FOR THE IRAQ WAR THE SAME AS HILLARY

John Edwards
John Kerry
Tom Daschle - HEAD OF SENATE
Christopher Dodd
Joe Lieberman
John McCain
Joe Biden
Diane Feinstein
Trent Lott
Richard Lugar
Harry Reid
Rockefeller
Schumer

Mr. Obama didn't know BETTER than them. He knew LESS than they did. They knew things Obama did not know over in Chicago - he wasn't in the Senate - did not have a vote. Always the safe position.


So stick that Iraq Obama having any authority from Chicago joke.

Posted by: Rskl | April 29, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse


U.S. SOLDIER KILLED BECAUSE OF HILLARY'S VOTE

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

SingleWhiteFemale:

Those are not "racist" posts (unless you think YOUR post supposedly pointing out racism is also a "racist" post). People pretending to be racist are not racist. For instance, that was not me posting at 6:04 PM, but rather someone trying to paint me as a racist. See the difference?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Does not this world seem real in dreams.

Dreams are chaotic because they are governed by you wishes.

You are outraged by attack on your ego but you are not one with you ego.

Dreams show you that you have the ability to make the world as you would have.

I do not understand anything in this room

The point of this exercise is to help you clear your mind of all past association, to see things exactly as they as appear to you now.

Posted by: The Dream | April 29, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

GREAT. LETS SEE BLACKS VOTE FOR REPUBLICANS.

REPUBLICANS WILL END SOCIAL PROGRAMS, BRING BACK THE DRAFT, REPEAL ROW V WADE, AND GIVE COPS ASSAULT WEAPONS!!!!

END AFFIRMATIVE ACTION!!!

LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

"And this helps explain, perhaps, my relationship with Reverend Wright. As imperfect as he may be, he has been like family to me. He strengthened my faith, officiated my wedding, and baptized my children. Not once in my conversations with him have I heard him talk about any ethnic group in derogatory terms, or treat whites with whom he interacted with anything but courtesy and respect. He contains within him the contradictions - the good and the bad - of the community that he has served diligently for so many years."

Nevermind. Mr. Judgment changes his mind.

Posted by: Ed | April 29, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA SUPPORTERS --

THANK YOU FOR SHOWING US THE ERROR OF OUR WAYS.

WE NOW KNOW WHAT JERKS YOU REALLY ARE.

END SOCIAL PROGRAMS!!!!

BRING BACK THE DRAFT!!!!

NO MORE FREE RIDES FOR ARROGANT YOUNG JERKS!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Your all nuts [sic]:

If Edwards, Gore, and the super delegates help Hillary to STEAL this nomination from Obama, there will be rioting and most African-Americans will never vote for another Democrat again.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Newsflash. . . .

Superdelegate Rev. Wright endorses Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: Dan | April 29, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Is 12% John Edwards backing Hilliary?

Posted by: Jack | April 29, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

JakeD...do you need more?

KingofAllWhites: F*ckin A.

Posted by: yeah | April 29, 2008 4:39 PM

Damn, There are a lot of racists here.

Posted by: | April 29, 2008 4:29 PM

You are damned right we are racist. At least we speak out with our racism unlike you Ni%$rs who try to hid behind your monkey ni%$rs leaders Wright, Sharpton, and Jackson. We gave you a King holiday, why can't you ni#$s just be satisfied! Now you want us to give you a President--NEVER!! Operation CHAOS - let's go!!

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:04 PM


Posted by: SingleWhiteFemale | April 29, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

crazy:

TMI!!!

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

I hate to say it but I fully believe you voted twice for Bush I think you should lose your right to vote

If you vote for obama - you should lose your citizenship.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Looks like John Edwards and his wife are fixing to go Clinton. Then you get Gore on board and it's all over but the crying

Posted by: Your all nuts | April 29, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

KIDS TODAY HAVE WAY TOO MUCH FREE TIME.

BRING BACK THE DRAFT.

REQUIRE MILITARY SERVICE.

END SOCIAL PROGRAMS.

MAKE KIDS WORK THEIR WAY THROUGH SCHOOL.

PILE ON THE DEBT.

THEY TREAT US LIKE DIRT.

WHY SHOULD WE CARE ABOUT THEM?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

52% NEGATIVE RATINGS TO BEGIN WITH

Posted by: Jack | April 29, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse


SITTING IN THAT CHURCH FOR TWENTY YEARS

DEFENDING HIS SPIRITUAL MENTOR FOR MONTHS NOW

GIVING A MAJOR SPEECH ABOUT THE GUY

SAYS HE DIDN'T "VET" HIS PASTOR BEFORE RUNNING

HUH?

TWENTY YEARS AND HE DIDN'T KNOW THIS GUY

WHAT A FREAKING LIAR OBAMA IS

HE THINKS WE'LL SWALLOW AND "BELIEVE" ANYTHING HE SAYS

GOD BLESS AMERICA

SOME OF US ARE NOT OBAMABOTS

WE WILL NOT VOTE FOR HIM

HE HAS BAGGAGE AND A PAST FULL OF REALLY DIRTY LAUNDRY

TALK TALK TALK

HE'S A FAST TALKER

SMOOTH TALKER

HE IS A HOODWINKER

ADULTS WITH BRAINS OF THEIR OWN
WILL NOT VOTE FOR HIM

SUPER DELEGATES BETTER KNOW THAT

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

The repugnicons have been pushing Shillary's candidacy for OVER 2 YEARS!

Bill Krystal (or however you spell the traitorous zionist's name), one of the dual citizenship perfidous neocons who pushed us into war, not with the still at large Bin Laden but with Israel's greatest worry Iraq, now screams for her candidacy (others were Wolfowitz, 1st to bring up Iraq after 9/11 and Douglas Feith, son of one of modern times original terrorists who bombed British hotels to establish Israel, who made up the WMD lie).

About a month ago the Clinton's said the right words to the powerful zionist elite who have thrown the media they control her way, just as they did with the grandson of a man who did business with Hitler while the US was at war with them, G. W. Bush. Israel comes 1st with these people and you will never read about it other than the free internet.

Tis a shame because most American Jews are loyal and have voted overwhelmingly liberal and progressive. Jews established the NAACP and ACLU. They too are betrayed by the zionists who prop up the navel of world turmoil with billions (doubtless by now trillions) of American taxpayers dollars.

Can you say Rupert Murdoch?

Obama is the ONLY change there is here....until you fools establish more parties thus avoiding a choice between two Skull and Bones richboys.

Posted by: Richard | April 29, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

I am not a body
I am free
I am as god created me

go OBAMA

Posted by: I love OBAMA | April 29, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

WE WANT CLINTON IN NOVEMBER

Posted by: Jackj | April 29, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

ITS REALLY BAD ALL THOSE POOR VOLUNTEERS ARE DYING IN IRAQ.

WE REALLY NEED TO BRING BACK THE DRAFT.

ALL 18-24 YEAR OLDS SHOULD HAVE TO DO MILITARY SERVICE, JUST LIKE OTHER COUNTRIES.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

I am crazy in my love for you Jake D and Obama

In eternity we are one

Posted by: crazy | April 29, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

I believe in Mircles

I believe in forgiveness

I believe in OBAMA

call me crazy :)

No - just gullible.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

What am I missing here? Hillary apologist have demanded that Obama denounce and distance himself from Rev Wright for the last month, then when he does just that, post the good Rev's rant fest over the weekend, suddenly it's too late and it's Obama that's throwing his pastor under the bus? Suddenly Obama's the phony? Oh, you mean phony like ducking sniper fire phony or phony like being against tax increases for the wealthy before you were for it phony? Ummm, I know how fanatic you hillbillies are about Mrs "Rapist Enabler Blame the Women but Call Me a Feminist" Clinton, but it's April, and if this is the best you guys can come up with to railroad Obama's chances in November than please, talk about this Wright issue ad nauseum...all the way to November. And when Barack is sworn in in January, you can all go back and dissect how Iowa was Mrs. Third Place's fall from grace...and rise to disgrace. You heard it here first:)

Barack supporters, trust me, don't be discouraged. Obama has Hillary and McCain shaking in their boots. Running circles around them and raising plenty of cash. When Barack sows up this nomination, look for McCain (already short on cash) to spend lots of money in states Republicans normally wouldn't need to and watch how "vigorous" a 72 year old man looks while trying to keep up with a much much younger opponent while trying to explain his war cheerleader position. Barack has this sh*t in the bag!

Posted by: BrooklynGirl | April 29, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

"You're beginning to believe this illusion we're spinning here. "

Paddy Chayefsky

Posted by: Terrorist | April 29, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Sean Kirk:

Obi-Wan once thought as you do -- you don't know the power of the Dark Side -- I can feel the hate growing inside you. Give yourself to the Dark Side. It is the only way to save your friends.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

I believe in Mircles

I believe in forgiveness

I believe in OBAMA

call me crazy :)

Posted by: crazy | April 29, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

KEEP IT UP OBAMA SUPPORTERS.

YOU'RE THE BEST RECRUITING TOOL REPUBLICANS EVER HAD.

LETS HOPE MCCAIN PUTS LOTS OF CONSERVATIVES ON THE BENCH.

YOU'RE MAKING US HATE YOU.

YOU WILL NEVER GET OUR VOTES.

BRING BACK THE DRAFT!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

ANOTHER media-manufactured article on Wright??

HOW ABOUT TALKING ABOUT THE ISSUES?

Here's one you won't see on the Washington Post's front page:

At least 44 American soldiers have been killed in Iraq in April, making it the deadliest month for U.S. forces since September.

Four more U.S. soldiers dead in Iraq. But no coverage from the lazy journalists at the Post/TMZ. Go figure.

Posted by: losthorizon101 | April 29, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

I just loveeeee Hilliary and the Clinton gang - doing all this good work for us Republicans. It was all Clinton tactics to look for the rev wright speech - guilt be association - it works

Posted by: Jack | April 29, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

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....................HILLARY VOTED FOR THE WAR

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse


ANYONE LEFT IN OBAMA'S DO NOTHING PAST THAT HE CAN "DENOUNCE"

HE IS TOO FREAKING MUCH.

AND HAS TOO FREAKING MUCH BAGGAGE FOR ANYONE TO "BELIEVE" IN HIM

THINKS HE CAN TALK AMERICANS IN AND OUT OF ANYTHING

THEIR MONEY

HIS TROUBLE AND HIS LIES

HE THINKS HE'S QUITE THE GUY


WE DON'T

Posted by: Todd | April 29, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

P Diddy:

Do you have children? Do you take them with you to hear your "wacko Pastor" preach?

When you run for office, you can be just like Obama.

Posted by: me2 | April 29, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

bu$h is a war criminal

clinton will work for the same interests as bu$h

clinton is the wrong choice for america

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Rev Wrong does not work at black church

silly

is mainly white church in Hyde Park (University of Chicago area)

Posted by: REV WRONG | April 29, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA SUPPORTERS --

THANKS FOR SETTING CIVIL RIGHTS BACK BY 50 YEARS.

YOU HAVE TURNED WHITE LIBERALS WHO WANTED TO HELP BLACKS INTO CONSERVATIVES THAT WANT A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD FOR EVERYONE.

YOU HAVE SHOWED US THE ERRORS OF OUR LIBERAL WAYS BY BEING TOTAL JERKS AND STICKING A SHIV INTO THE CLINTONS.

GOOD LUCK WINNING AN ELECTION WITHOUT WHITE MIDDLE CLASS VOTERS.

GOOD LUCK SURVIVING WITHOUT SOCIAL PROGRAMS.

THANKS FOR SHOWING US THE KIND OF UNGRATEFUL IMMATURE JERKS YOU ARE.

THANKS FOR TURNING DEMOCRATS INTO REPUBLICANS.

END SOCIAL PROGRAMS!!!

BRING BACK THE DRAFT!!!!

REPEAL ROW V. WADE!!!!


Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse


Oh - I feel so SAD for Obama.

His past catches up with him every day and he has to run from it and throw his dearest family and oldest friends under the bus.

Poor me Obama.

Give us a break. Media baby wiped. Now he's gonna get on TV every time he has a problem and talk talk talk talk talk it away.

Talk talk talk talk talk himself out of everything.

I'm tired of listening to him already. Just forget this guy.

Obama is a loser.

He has baggage, masks and more excuses than a child.

Blame, blame blame.

Excuse, excuses, excuses

Lies and lies.

This guy is what twelve years old?

Posted by: Todd | April 29, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

politicalpuck:

Good points -- I re-read that earlier speech now in the context of Obama's throwing his own pastor under the bus -- but, since Rev. Wright stated that this is not an attack on him, but an "attack on the black church", will the black church continue to vote for Obama?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

President Jimmy Carter on CNN "if I were Obama I would try to distance myself from Wright's comments too although I understand some of the comments having grown up in a community of mostly African American. But Obama cannot be held accountable for Wright's comments." A very prominent Superdelegate--the only Democrat alive having served in the office of the President who is not married to a current candidate.

Posted by: SingleWhiteFemale | April 29, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Blah, blah, blah. Wright is irrelevant. BHO has no chance whatsoever of being elected POTUS. Never did. Never will. He//uva job, Dems, in choosing another unelectable candidate and once again handing the White House to the GOP.

Posted by: Checkered.1 | April 29, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

JakeD:
As far as the "latest" (flash!) polling data goes, I will take some ironic pleasure in quoting a man I come close to genuinely despising... "So?"

Politically, it's a looooong way to November!

America is SICK of the Iraq war, sick of the vampire feedings of the Oil Companies and Pharmaceutical Companies and Coal Companies and Timber Companies and Mortgage Bankers and federally bailed out) Investment Banks and... ad infinitum!

Posted by: Sean Kirk | April 29, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Peabuddy

I hate to say it but I fully believe you voted twice for Bush I think you should lose your right to vote

Posted by: scatfiend | April 29, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

And why exactly should Obama have distanced himself from Rev. Wright years ago, as more than one commenter has suggested? I frankly find it sad that he has to do it now. I find absolutely no discrepancy in attending a church where you and the preacher don't agree 100%. Especially since in this case, what they don't agree on are social issues, not theological issues. Now don't be shy - how many of my fellow Catholics out there have gay friends? How many of you use birth control? Then sit down and shut up.

Posted by: krabbykabby | April 29, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

It's not that complicated:

Reverend Wright is a racist and a bigot who hates whites and hates America. If he is the face of the black church, or is considered to be a black leader, then the black community is in very serious trouble. The guy is a little Hitler. Ignorant, racist, and charismatic.

Obama is very different from Wright and I am convinced he does not believe a single word of the filth that flows from the good Reverends mouth. The trouble is that when Obama heard this bilge (and yea, in 20 years of sitting in the pews he CERTAINLY heard it) he did NOTHING. He didn't stomp out of the church, with his family in tow, in outrage. He didn't quietly stop attending the sermons and take his family to a different congregation. And he certainly didn't confront the Reverend. He did nothing.

Why? Because he needed the local support? Maybe, but I can't believe he was such a politician 20 years ago. No, I think it's easier than that. He simply didn't have the courage. He just wanted to get along. Maybe he was mildly entertained and didn't see a reason to make a fuss.

Ok, that's fine for Joe Blow community organizer, but NOT for someone who wants to lead the United States. There are two reasons for this:
1) If you can't stand up to some petty little bigot in Chicago how the hell are you going to stand up to the scum out there in the big world? If Obama couldn't handle Wright, and for 20 years he didn't handle Wright, what can we expect when he goes up against the likes of Mugabe, Kim, Putin?
2) If you want to be President of the United States you damn well better love your country. Yes Barry, if you want to be President, you have to love your country like you love your children - unconditionally. And having sat in the pews for 20 years listening to the anti-American crap spewing from the good Reverend mouth doesn't inspire me to believe this.

Go back to community organizer Barry, you're not qualified to be President, you lack the spine.

Posted by: johngault1 | April 29, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

I agree screw the nation

its about me

Paris Hilton

Posted by: Paris Hilton | April 29, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

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NEOCONS FOR HILLARY

YESTERDAY'S SCRIPT:

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... incite racial hatred against Muslims


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TODAY'S SCRIPT:

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... incite racial hatred against Black Americans

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

I no longer trust that Obama is who he claims to be -- this last minute attempt to ditch his friend is appalling

Posted by: Name | April 29, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

LOL -- I'm not including the Fake JakeD posts as real racist comments -- unless you want to admit that Barack Obama himself just posted. Nice try though.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Steve

Bad timing or a glimps of what Wright may know? That we don't YET

Posted by: michaelt | April 29, 2008 6:02 PM


I'm not sure what what Wright knows, but he sure seems determined to make a name for himself, and to weaken Obama's campaign.

Posted by: Steve | April 29, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Obama Supporters --

On behalf of all Clinton supporters I'd like to thank Obama's supporters for acting like such jerks that you've turned us into hardened enemies that will NEVER vote for Obama.

A lot of us were thinking of sitting this election out if Obama was the nominee.

Thanks to the tireless efforts of Obama's supporters, we will do everything we can to see Obama defeated, including donating to McCain if Obama is the Democratic nominee.

THANKS. YOU JERKS HAVE MADE MAINSTREAM DEMOCRATS INTO HARDENED OBAMA HATERS.

WE'D RATHER RE-ELECT BUSH HIMSELF THAN SEE OBAMA WIN!!!!

IF OBAMA'S THE NOMINEE, WE HOPE THAT MCCAIN BRINGS BACK THE DRAFT AND SENDS EVERY SINGLE OBAMA SUPPORTER TO THE FRONT LINES, PREFERABLY WITH NO AMMO AND NO TRAINING.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

you can tell that hillary has made a deal with the devil when the whisper campaigners are on her side, frantically attempting to spread rumors. look no further than this very message board

if the US has one more status quo president, it wont matter who gets elected next. power will have been consolidated by then well past the point of accountable and responsible government

OBAMA '08

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

If OBAMA was a muslim Rev Wrong would not be able to swift boat him.

Posted by: if i he was muslim | April 29, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Obama is becoming an uncle tom. He denounced his preacher of 20 years and tells sharpton to use non-violence in new york to appeace white voters. whats next.

Posted by: Obama becoming uncle tom | April 29, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Farffalle44
I didnt know Bill was running again this year.
Did I ever said Bill wasnt a great President? And why must you Feel THe NEEd tO START USING ALL CAPS MIDWAY THROUGH your posting?
I quote Bill Clinton because his words are very true. He won his elections by being postive, talking about hope and change. Sounds familiar to me this election cycle.
I dont dislike Hillary. I LOVE Hillary. I am just supporting someone else this year. I would gladly vote for Hillary and i will gladly vote for Obama come November.

I am tired of the

FEAR
FEAR
FEAR
FEAR

Bill Clinton in 2004:
"Now one of Clinton's Laws of Politics is
this: If one candidate's trying to scare
you and the other one's trying to get you
to think; if one candidate's appealing to
your fears and the other one's appealing
to your hopes, you better vote for the
person who wants you to think and hope.
That's the best."

Posted by: feastorafamine | April 29, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

obama denouncing wright is a sham, it's no more than two black kids ranking on each other. they got togeather and agreed that it would benefit him if he denounced wright, it's a deception and it's sad, obama should admit he is afrocentric, he should stand up lime a man and say so.

Posted by: Dwight | April 29, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

NOW he's outraged? ... a day late and a dollar short.

Posted by: waterfrontproperty | April 29, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

I donated to the Obama campaign this morning. After the days news...I gave again.

Posted by: jmschaldach | April 29, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

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NEOCONS FOR HILLARY
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TODAY'S SCRIPT:

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... incite racial hatred against Black Americans!

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Obama can no more dump Wright today than he said he could not disown him six weeks ago.

Obama is a transparent liar, and there are some gullible Obama supporters who will praise him no matter what he does, or what his paster of 20 plus years says.

Six weeks ago Obama gave one of the most cynical speeches in American history. Today he tops that by throwing his pastor under the bus, and the pastor's parishioners.

Posted by: politicalpuck | April 29, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Wright's performance at the National Press Club Q&A was outrageous. Obama had to act.

It's not easy denouncing someone who has so much good about them yet is so flawed, especially when the person made so many contributions to your life that you value e.g., relationship with Christ.

If you have ever had to account for the unacceptable behavior of a relative, you would understand. It's hard when the mother you love says something nasty about Hispanic children at a PTA function for grandparents while other parents are listening and if you're on the PTA Board, you would hate to stand there and say those views don't represent you. I don't know why people think they can control a pastor like Wright.

Don't vote for Obama if you don't want to but recognize the significance of doing what he did today. People are complex beings and many children (of all races) , some with very racist parents are working on Obama's campaign precisely because they recognize that their views and those of the people they love don't always agree, some despite having been around their racist parents all their lives.

Wright said some good things yesterday and over the weekend but he hurt Obama by showing just how far stuck in the past he is.
His comments were not helpful, no matter what his context. This spat proves far more than anything that racism is a generational struggle in America and older people in their sixties, like Wright have a really hard time moving to 2008. Every so often the ugly side shows in otherwise good, honorable people.

Obama has apologized enough for things he did not say and views he does not hold. Let's move back to the issues.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

What a phony Obama is!

Posted by: PragmatismRules | April 29, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

re: "Please point out ONE such racist comment (that has remained on the thread)?"

"You are damned right we are racist. At least we speak out with our racism unlike you Ni%$rs who try to hid behind your monkey ni%$rs leaders Wright, Sharpton, and Jackson. We gave you a King holiday, why can't you ni#$s just be satisfied! Now you want us to give you a President--NEVER!! Operation CHAOS - let's go!!"

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

I've been busted I am a fraud. I promise I didn't have fraudulent relations with the American people. I didn't beat my fist on the pew that day when Wright went of on the white man. I'm very aware that the transgressions of the 16,17, and 1800's didn't have anything to do with todays white man. Please believe me I have HOPE, I'm selling HOPE don't you get it. I HOPE I get nominated. I HOPE they don't find out about Wright. I HOPE they don't find out I'm Muslim and have been bread to destroy the west I HOPE

I'm Barak Obamah and I approve this message

Posted by: Barak Obama | April 29, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Bill was good for the economy he just had a zipper issue and truth issue

Posted by: pant zipper | April 29, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Obama's speech in an abridged format: I smoked it, I just didn't inhale.

Posted by: CUtiger05 | April 29, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

rev Wrong preaches to a PREDOMINATELY WHITE CHURCH

AND THE AFFILIATED CHURCHES are PREDONINATELY WHITE

Posted by: REV WRONG | April 29, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Fake JakeD (or anyone else claiming there are racists posting here):

Please point out ONE such racist comment (that has remained on the thread)? Thanks in advance.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

The cult of Obama has joined with the far-right to try to destroy the most valuable asset of the Democratic Party -- The legacy of Bill Clinton's Presidency.

Posted by: | April 29, 2008 6:04 PM
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Bill Clinton did a good job of destroying his own legacy. Naturally, the cult of Hillary believes it was a conspiracy.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse


OBAMA SUPPORTERS


TODAY'S SCRIPT:


... Turn Clinton supporters into hardened enemies that will NEVER vote for Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Who is Rev Wright?

sincerely
attention span

Posted by: attention span | April 29, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Will Obama lose support in the black community for denouncing a respected pastor within the black community. Wright has done more for blacks during his life than Obama ever will. Can't help.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

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NEOCONS FOR HILLARY
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TODAY'S SCRIPT:

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... incite racial hatred against Black Americans

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

sharolaid

Come join Flo Tiles for Obama! We is a gang of educated Obama supoters. We is goin to Denver to loot, uh riot, in supot of Obama. We's need folks with vans and trucks to go wit us. Wanna come?

Posted by: Flo Tiles fo Obama | April 29, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

DAC, as a fellow conservative, I agree that Obama did the right thing today. But it was the least unacceptable option for him, and Wright will cost him the election no matter what he does or says.

Also, while I admire some aspects of his character, he is an unreconstructed liberal that I can't imagine voting for under any circumstances.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

I am amazed at these holy than thou critics of Obama, boy I would hate to do something wrong to them. These are probably the same people that would go to church on Sunday and lynch someone on Monday. Judge not yet ye be judge. The last time I checked he was human. If this is what Clinton or McCains supporters really look like then we are really in trouble. These are the same people that you have no problem with Clintons camp calling you uneducated, you are proving it now. Also isn't this the same woman who years ago said to her husband about you down home folks SCREWEM! For those of you that do claim to be Christian have you ever stopped and asked yourself WHAT WOULD JESUS DO? He would not be acting like you all. You all act like Obama was assistant pastor he just went to the church. OMG people do you have that much hate in your hearts. Here is a man that just might be the one that saves us from ourselves and we rather go to hell before we accept him. Wow that is so American! I know the world is laughing at us now.

Posted by: cheryll | April 29, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

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NEOCONS FOR HILLARY
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... incite racial hatred against Black Americans

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

If Obama was untested before this process (a statement that I have never believed, but I know others have) he certainly has been through the crucible now. He has repeatedly proven to be a man who does and says the right thing under painful circumstances, who does not lash out, does not panic, but steps up to do what he has to do.

I would be, in fact I will be, proud to have him as our Commander in Chief. From what I've seen, he will face up to the situations that come up (that none of us can predict) with brains and character and make calm, common-sense decisions. We've seen him in tough times (although they are political tough times they are pretty darn tough) and he does not lose his composure.

This is not meant as a back-handed put-down for either of the other candidates, by the way, but an observation on Obama's character in the current crisis.

Posted by: Fairfax Voter | April 29, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

I am tired of this whole race can we just appoint Hillary queen?

Posted by: LETS JUST HAVE KING | April 29, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

"He will get a landslide"

vs.

"He won't even carry 10 states in November"

Well, one of you is wrong at least ; )

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

MOONIES FOR OBAMA.

TODAY'S GOAL. NOT SOIL THEIR DIAPERS.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

........OBAMA IS A LIAR, NOW AND ALWAYS...................................................................................

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There is a picture of the Clintons in the dictionary next to the word liar.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Tom3

Sorry you haven't the capacity to LOVE your Country (no matter what), PRAY for her (first a thank you, then pray for betterment), and WORK to make things right ... all at the same time.

It seems you only know how to criticize. I'm so thankful to the generation in my family that came to this country, worked hard, proved the American dream and taught me that love for my Country.

Sounds like you don't like it here. Have you tried living somewhere else?

Posted by: me2 | April 29, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

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...incite racial hatred against Black Americans

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Damn, There are a lot of racists here.

Posted by: | April 29, 2008 4:29 PM

You are damned right we are racist. At least we speak out with our racism unlike you Ni%$rs who try to hid behind your monkey ni%$rs leaders Wright, Sharpton, and Jackson. We gave you a King holiday, why can't you ni#$s just be satisfied! Now you want us to give you a President--NEVER!! Operation CHAOS - let's go!!

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

If Obama is nominated, he will lose by a landslide. If it causes the Democratic party to reconsider its priorities and not run after the votes of the diaper crowd it will be worth it.

The cult of Obama has joined with the far-right to try to destroy the most valuable asset of the Democratic Party -- The legacy of Bill Clinton's Presidency.

If Obama is the nominee, mainstream Democrats will not support him. Some will stay home, most will vote for McCain.

Obama is a fake and a fraud.

We will do everything we can to see him defeated.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Wright is an issue that "threatens to weaken his campaign." Threatens? What planet do these pundits live on?

We all knew it was coming. Obama had to make a choice, and he did. Thump, thump, thump. That's the sound of the formerly loved Rev Wright, Obama's mentor and spirital advisor for the past 20 years, bumping against the pavement as Obama runs him over.

Posted by: thinkwithyourbrain | April 29, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

DAC:

I've read the whole transcript too. You are not even a little bit concerned that Obama stayed in that church for 20 years? What does that say about his vaunted JUDGMENT? What if Obama, in fact, agrees with Rev. Wright and is lying about it now -- would THAT even concern you?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Steve

Bad timing or a glimps of what Wright may know? That we don't YET

Posted by: michaelt | April 29, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

I was just kidding about all that racist, anti-american stuff. Come on, can't anyone take a joke?

Posted by: Rev. Wright | April 29, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Obama plus Hamas equals end of America!!

Posted by: rickrack | April 29, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

"How different can Rev. Wright be today compared to the 20 years he was Obama's minister. Give me a break. Obama is denouncing this jerk to get votes--plain and simple. He's a politician--that's what they do--say what you will about McCain, but he tells it like it is--no BS.

Posted by: Olney 20832 | April 29, 2008 5:56 PM"

This isn't about Obama or Hillary, this is without bias what I am going to ask you. I respect McCain for his service to this country. Do you believe in equal pay? This is NOT at all an insult, this is an honest question.

Posted by: Obama2008 | April 29, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Go Obama!!! For Latin America

Posted by: Sebastián Salgado | April 29, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if Rev. Wright works for the Clinton campaign? What bad timing.

Posted by: Steve | April 29, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse


........OBAMA IS A LIAR, NOW AND ALWAYS...................................................................................

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse


Obama's crazy old preacher is right about one thing: Obama's just another politician who says what politicians say.

He won't carry 10 states in November.

I'm not sure he would carry Illinois outside Chicago.


Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

grandma biskit

We is feelin itchy in our butts. We's can't wait to loot dem honky stos in Denver. Wanna go wit us? We gonna git you a flat screen two.

Posted by: Flo Tiles fo Obama | April 29, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

I read he whole transcript. I am a red state conservative. Prior to today, I was not really able to even consider voting for this guy. But, this is presidential behavior. For all you folks that think what he just did was easy, you ar wrong. You can call it "politacal expediency" if you want. But, it is exaclty what needed to be done and said and he will now be subject to the scorn of many like Wright, and there are quite a few in the dem party. So... major points to Obama. Now if he would just get a clue on the government can fix everything idea... he might get a landslide.

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Never mind Obama, he's trying to get elected. I'd like to hear the leaders of the black community sound in on this. How about Oprah, for instance, who attended the same church and with the same pastor? How generalized are these views, and wouldn't this be the right time to weigh in?

Posted by: malafry | April 29, 2008 3:28 PM

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interesting concept malafry; so will we the Oprah's White Sisterhood stop flocking to her show picking up on all the goods that she give to us? Surely we must hold Oprah accountable for Wright's comments too.

Posted by: SingleWhiteFemale | April 29, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse


.......OBAMA IS A LIAR.......NOW, AND ALWAYS................................

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

BEWARE THE SEMI-ORGANIZED MESSAGE BOARD TROLLS

previously, the trolls screamed and distorted for bu$h as he lied his way through his presidency

now, the same trolls scream and distort for clinton as she lies her way through her campaign

its proof-positive that clinton is bad news for this country, and that obama will be a most welcome change

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

A few months ago during a debate...SenatorClinton asks...

"Do you denounce Minister Wright?"

Repeat question. Repeat question.


Senator Obama's answer was like a visit to the dentist not forthcoming, uneasy and strained.

Actually his response was somewhat artificial...it went somethng like this...(Italics) Yeah, Hillary...ok...I denounce or renounce him...(my words) if that will satisfy you.


Forward to today...Senator Obama can't distance himself quickly enough and forcefully enough or seperate from Minister Wright.

I'm waiting for the Farakkkan love fest to begin.
Unless, of course YOU agree with his point of view.


You see, the we began this process with close to -0- knowledge and close to -0- scrutiny.

And all I heard was...quit, quit, quit. Yeah, go ahead and quit and then none of this would come out. And there's probably more.

Unless serving 2 years in the Senate and then being a community organizer mean (exactly WHAT ARE THE DETAILS OF THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZER business).

Look, and this is meant without disrespect, I gotta learn more. OK. Hey, my neighbor was a community organizer...my great uncle might have been a state senator (well, not really)...but if anyone wants to be PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES I want more than just ...he owned a baseball team, or drilled for oil in Arabia and came up with sand, or stuff like this.

I've learned my lesson. I want to know MORE. And you know what? If there isn't ANYMORE to know than there just isn't enough enough there to satisfy me.


And...while I might not be the happiest camper around with the campaign of his opponent I am SMART enough to REALIZE that she isn't some 1957 segregationist, hurtful to the middle class fear mongering and fundamentally wrong for the job kind of person that some try to make her out to be.

Mrs. Clinton owes it to the American People to STAY IN THE PRIMARY RACE, to continue to WIN VOTES IN THE LARGER INDUSTRIAL STATES...and I might remind you these are the traditional states of Democratic strength...and NOT TO QUIT.

unless you think the democratic voters of kentucky, south carolina, iowa, alaska, singapore, brazil and argentina WILL PROVIDE FOR THE ELECTION OF A Democratic President this November.

i've just come to my senses and hope and pray you just give a little thought to this...and lay your passions aside for a moment.

Posted by: jatox | April 29, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

How different can Rev. Wright be today compared to the 20 years he was Obama's minister. Give me a break. Obama is denouncing this jerk to get votes--plain and simple. He's a politician--that's what they do--say what you will about McCain, but he tells it like it is--no BS.

Posted by: Olney 20832 | April 29, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Feast-I didn't know Pres. Clinton said that, those are very wise words. But then, being the Rhodes Scholar that he is, he was the only President in modern American political history to leave a BILLION PLUS SURPLUS IN THE US TREASURY-WHICH MONEY WENT OUT TO THE STATES, RAISING THE STANDARD OF LIVING FOR ALL AMERICANS-AND NOW? WHY, WE ARE UNTOLD TRILLIONS IN DEBT, WITH TRILLIONS MORE IN DEBT TO COME, ALL THANKS TO GW BUSH AND THAT EVIL DETESTABLE CHENEY!

GO HILLARY! WE WANT MORE OF THAT FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY THAT YOU AND YOUR HUSBAND CAN ONCE AGAIN DELIVER TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC-PLEASE GOD, YOU RECKLESS DEM. LEADERSHIP, UNDERSTAND WHAT A DISASTER OBAMA WOULD BE-UNDERSTAND IT, BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!

Posted by: Farffalle44 | April 29, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

So does anyone have an opinion on this issue?

Posted by: Elroy | April 29, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Can we get back to why we have oil companies posting record profits while we struggle to pay $3.69 per gallon of regular gas?

Can we begin to seek out solutions to help out 48 million Americans without health insurance?

Can someone tell me why New Orleans has not been rebuilt, but we can bail-out one of the biggest investment bankers?

Can we start a real dialogue of how we get our young men and women out of Iraq with minimal risk to them, ourselves and our beloved nation?

By the way, the foreclosure crisis continues...and your taxes will go up because States base their budgets on property taxes.

Have you thought about that, or is it more satisfying to focus our fears, anger and frustrations on someone who freely and without regard has chosen to take full advantage of his 15 minutes of fame?

If I recall, liberation theology is about enlightening and uniting folks for the good of the whole. It is about hope and knowing that Jesus is savior, the model, the path and through him we can! Liberation theology is not about feeding an oversized ego.

I believe that as Americans with a great and rich nation (not rich financially because our debt is outrageous - rich in spirit and "CAN DO" attitude), we need to look beyond the rhetoric, and really explore which candidate will deliver the right combination of domestic policies, international trade policies, deplomatic policies and security policies to protect our freedom and way of life.

War is not the answer! Ethenol is not the answer! Race-baiting is not the answer!
We must move forward from the negative media coverage, and think of what it is that we want to leave for future generations. Is it a fragmented, destroyed, and financially strapped Union, or are we trailblazers, innovators and visionaries like our founding fathers and all those that have fought for Civil Rights and the way of life that we cherish?

One of my concerns is what are we planning for our veterans? Are we going to let another generation that has fought for our freedom and way of life return to no health care, foreclosed homes, high fuel prices, and scant benefits wrapped-up in red tape? The young men and women risking their lives deserve more!

Stop the chaos and scandals and unnecessary distractions... Let's rebuild America, by providing health care coverage and options to its citizens; let's get our housing market upright; let's get serious about looking at other sources of fuel, and let's give back to our young men and women who have risked it all to protect our freedom and way of life (including all 9/11 first responders who are now ill and suffering).

United we stand, ...

Posted by: Outraged By Distraction! | April 29, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA IS A LIAR

Wright is right. He is a politician. A lying politician.

Posted by: Jamal | April 29, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Rev. Wright has never been a relevant issue in the first place.. Dwelling on this is not going to solve the energy crisis, the high gas prices, or the problems with our economy. It certainly won't bring our troops home, so why do people keep clutching onto this so called "issue" of Rev. Wright's antics and patriotism (or lack there of)? I for one, couldn't care less about who this man is, just as long as he stays out of the "news" and keeps quiet for Obama's sake.. It would be completely stupid for anyone to think that his views reflect that of Rev. Jeremiah Wright, and I for one don't believe this has any relevance to the campaign.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

git choass out my crib

Posted by: grandma biskit | April 29, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

It's sad reading these comments to realize how much racism there really still is in America. Many of you should really be ashamed. No wonder America has reached a positively all time low. And these people seem to be the one's most loudly portraying their love of country. Sure.

Whatever Obama is he is not the person many of you are portraying. You should be ashamed of yourselves. What sort of gibberish is it to imply he's a MUSLIM extremist who also attended a CHRISTIAN church for 20 years. What are you gusy gibbering about? Please make the words flow to sentences that make some sense.

I am really starting to wonder whether America is ready to elect a black candidate.

Posted by: patrickw | April 29, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Obama is not a charitable person (per his taxes) but when he did make charitable contributions, most of it went to Reverend Wright. $60,000 in two years. No one got more. Not the United Negro College Fund. Not to the USO. Not to the Red Cross. Obama chose Reverend Wright to give his charitable gifts to.

That says so much.

Posted by: Karen | April 29, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

WOULD YOU LIKE SOME PETA BREAD WITH YOU HAMMAS

Posted by: PETA BREAD | April 29, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Look how Obama inspires people and how he united people.

OBAMA has NEVER proved any accomplishment.

The best Obama got was to use 20 yrs to make his pastor to damn America.

Well done.

Posted by: XX | April 29, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

AND THE NUMBER ONE REASON TO NOMINATE HILLARY CLINTON

TO FURTHER DICK MORRIS'S CAREER

Posted by: TOP TEN LIST | April 29, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

This is great stuff! Obama is looking more and more like the devious politician that he pretends not to be. He's trashing his pastor because it's politically convenient...lol.

Posted by: politicohispanico | April 29, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

my butt be feeling rashly
how you is?

Posted by: grandma biskit | April 29, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

SWF

your damn skippy Hillary is rutheless and will get it done, hell she may get here rug munched while in the oval who gives a crap. Get us the jobs, lower gas prices bomb the idiots, I didn't say pitch a tent I said bomb the fools. America has lost it's back bone. Run to the aid of idiots open doors to anyone Fuk it I'm moving to the Netherlands

Posted by: michaelt | April 29, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

I am just stunned and saddened by the hate, anger, racism, and divisive comments on this blog from my fellow human beings. Really, no wonder we can't seem to work together to help deal with climate change, feeding the poor, educating our children, and ending war. People would rather hate and criticize one another that love one another. It seems people feed off of their fears and divisions so much that they become blinded to the true wonder of life. I won't give up hope that we can have peace on this planet, but it is going to take a huge paradigm shift away from the mindset demonstrated here.

Posted by: Peace for All | April 29, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

This is all mularkey....people who attend church regularly don't necessarily know their pastor or pries or whatever.

I've been going to the same church my entire life.....and despite the priest overseeing my 2 sisters' wedding, my 3 nephews and 3 nieces baptisms, even my own confirmation.....I don't know him personally nor do I know his politics.

Posted by: GoonieGooGoo | April 29, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse


.....WHY ARE YOU "OUTRAGED" NOW, OBAMA??? OBAMA IS A LIAR.........................

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

FEAR
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FEAR Obama

FEAR
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Bill Clinton in 2004:
"Now one of Clinton's Laws of Politics is
this: If one candidate's trying to scare
you and the other one's trying to get you
to think; if one candidate's appealing to
your fears and the other one's appealing
to your hopes, you better vote for the
person who wants you to think and hope.
That's the best."

Posted by: feastorafamine | April 29, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Hannity and Limbaugh have given their marching orders to the ditto-heads today.

There's nothing, absolutely nothing, that any Democrat could say that would placate the Republican trolls who frequent the WaPo board.

Now, Conservative Republican policy has brought us the war in Iraq, 4 trillion added to our national debt in seven short years, and the debacle that was the Federal Government's response to Katrina.

John McCain wants more of the same.

Don't let the trolls fool you.

If you care about this country and want peace, health care and prosperity with sound fiscal management, vote Democratic.

Posted by: anti-troll | April 29, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

I'se don' know what all da fuss be about? We is still goin to win with Barack. If we don't we's gonna riot and loot all you Whiteys sto's. We is gonna get us some flat-screen TVs and some of dem Blue rays, some Ipods and some of dem laptops. Shore we is. We is a gang of educated Barack supoters who ain't gonna take yo KKK crap anymo. You jus wait an sea.

Posted by: Flo Tiles for Obama | April 29, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Bob:

It seems that Dick Morris has some evidence that Obama WAS at church that Sunday too.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

First of all, Barack Obama does not share the more over-the-top, objectionable views of Pastor Wright. But even if he does harbor some of these sentiments, who gives a crap. Look at:

1) His past voting record
2) His platform for the future, including his 62-page blueprint for America, which is accessible here: http://origin.barackobama.com/issues/
3) Compare 1 and 2 above with John McCain, whose pastor is a hateful freak.

Obama wins.

Posted by: Rob Howard | April 29, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

wHY Wheren"t you OUTRAGED

THEY TRIED TO IMPEAT YOUR HUSBAND

AND KILLED YOUR HEALTHCARE PROGRAM

Posted by: why do they let them sing and dance | April 29, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse


Wash Post headline:

"Obama 'Outraged,' 'Saddened'"


Horsesh!t.

He was cracking jokes about it just last night.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Obama maintains that he was not present the Sunday after 9/11 when Wright made his most inflammatory statements. Although there were probably more people attending church in America on that particular Sunday than attend on Christmas or Easter, Nevertheless, Obama is undoubtedly tellingthe truth. Even if he had been there, he probably would only have been "present" as he was often was in the Illinois legislature and as he must have been when Rev. Wright's comments were reported to him, as surely they must have been at some point. Oh no, no, that's right... he first heard them only when the rest of us did. And that's because, after all, they couldn't have been anything unusual that would elicit particular noteworthiness or comment by other congregants, could they?

Posted by: Bob | April 29, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Obama's late/lame repudiation of Rev Wright is simply not credible. He wants us to believe that he was unaware of Rev. Wright's beliefs regarding the US Govt's persecution of African Americans. This claim is not consistent w/ the angry defense of Wright by his congregation and their enthusiastic cheering of his paranoid accusations during his controversial sermons. Obviously Wright's congregation doesn't find his sermons controversial. Rev Wright has given us a rare glimpse into the African American community and that glimpse is confirmed by the loud support of the audience at Wright's NAACP and Press Club speeches. Sen Obama may try to claim ignorance of these attitudes, but every denial just makes him less credible.

Posted by: Yellow Dog | April 29, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

........OBAMA IS A LIAR...................

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse


Things like these happen all the time!! so OBAMA was in the church with such a person and didnot know!!
Nevertheless, he is not primetime anyway, he needs to become seasoned as he is already crashing under the load of these events, how can he answer McCaine and karl Rove? Go away and Let Hillary take over.

Posted by: SWA | April 29, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

....WHY WEREN'T YOU "OUTRAGED AND "SADDENED BEFORE, OBAMA? WHY ARE YOU SUCH A LIAR????????????????????????

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

That should just about take care of it. Senator Obama has stood up and made a clean break with Wright. Without a doubt, he did it to save his nomination, and that has likely been accomplished.

Hillary is not going to get a free ride now. The "bitterness" and "clinging to guns and religion" is really all that's left and will be forgotten until fall, when it will be brought up again to lesser effect.

It will be interesting to see how far the Clintons will go to undermine the Democratic nominee. You KNOW they would rather have John McCain in the White House next year, so she can run again in 2012. It will have to be subtle, sneaky and underhanded so as not to arouse the base - I'm confident the Clinton's can pull it off.

Posted by: magellan1 | April 29, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

ho di do
we finna go to the sto
ima acks you
how you is
we finna smack you again

Posted by: ebomics | April 29, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

HILLARY MAKE ME HOT

Posted by: PARIS HILTON | April 29, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

It is sad to see the ignorant and racist comments so many of my fellow Americans have left on this page. We all don't know each other as well as we think. If there only were a candidate who could open up this dialouge amongst races of....I forgot, there is. No matter how dark or light someones skin is, that does not define a persons mental or moral capacity. We are all the same. STOP THE DIVISION.

Posted by: American | April 29, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

ho di do
we finna go to the sho
ima acks you again
is you in
we finna vote bama
we finna win
when i run for the elevator i say "ho di do cracka!"
bama 08 and not too far in between

Posted by: mamabama | April 29, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

REV WRIGHT MAKES ME HOT

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..........HILLARY IS THE BEST QUALIFIED
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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

ima acks you how you is
is yo mammy bammy?
shonuff is
bama dun did he
we finna go

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

This needs to be said again, lol...

just heard that Hillary just knocked out her two front teeth, tied a confederate flag around her neck, bit off all of her fingernails and dragged them around in dirt, scratched her face, has a gun holster on her hip and a shot of Johnny Walker in her right hand giving rally speeches on the flat bed of a red pickup truck with a rope tied in a noose hanging out the front door....Dang....what she won't do to win over that rural white vote! LMAO

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Posted by: SingleWhiteFemale | April 29, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

michaelt:

I guess it is POSSIBLE that Barack Obama is telling the truth about not sharing Wright's views. Not probable, but possible. No one is answering my question about it, though.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

QUOTE:
"Oh good grief, think on the priests that got away with molesting children and then think on what you just posted."

Hey [unsigned] and Tom3

Sorry, my post must have really gotten to you because you've quickly jumped to conclusions: that I am Catholic (?) and that any priest that molested children would still have a job in my church. Well, not all Christians are Catholic, educate yourselves. I am not speaking for an entire archdiocese, only for my little church. As a long time member of the directing board at my parish, I can say with certainty that we would never tolerate such behavior.

Must I spell it out for you?
OBAMA should never have tolerated such behavior. Did he tolerate it because he believed it? How could he believe it, after all, would he have the education he now has if he grew up with his father Kenya in stead of his mother in the United States of America? Why wasn't he an agent for change over the last 20 years in his church?

The real questions remain:

WHY would Obama tolerate such behavior by his "spiritual advisor"?
WHY would Obama let Wright preside at his wedding?
WHY would Obama have his children baptized by Wright?
WHY would Obama bring his children to church to hear such hateful "sermons"?
WHY is Obama denoucning Wright ONLY NOW?

For his own personal gain, but too little, too late.

Posted by: me2 | April 29, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

we am you cracker
how you is?
we am bama
is yo mam bama?
how she is?
ima acks you
we finna riot
we finna burn you
take yoass up on out chere

Posted by: we am you | April 29, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

I love this man! He is the first honest politian to emerge in my lifetime.
but no where near as progressive and forward thinking as Obama.

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Bless your heart. I hope you are female? Do you wet your pants?

I hate to dry, them, but he ain't honest I can give you 50+ of his own statements that prove that he isn't honest. He hasn't been close to truthful in when, where, and how he knew or heard of Wright's remarks. That is just a starter.

Posted by: Chief | April 29, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

This is hilarous. And to look at all the hate, it just shows what this election is all about. Personally, the problem here is we don't have a single candidate worth electing. Honestly, are any of you really inspired by any of these people. They are all the same, they will say what they need to say to get elected, but won't stand by any decisions they make. Its no longer about right or wrong, its all about who will give me more votes or not. Wake up. Please tell me this country still has a Lincoln or Washington to offer us.
And the real issue here isn't that this preacher is a racist or not. let him, its America and he has the freedom to think or say whatever he wants. Does it show Obama's character flaws here? yeah, it shows a lack in judgment for a politician who should have known better to avoid being mixed up with a person with those views especially if he wanted to be president. But the real issues aren't being addresssed by any of the candidates.
How many of the candidates have spoken up about illegal immigration? there is the real threat to the American way of life. We're losing our language, our culture, our neighborhoods are starting to look like a postcard from tijuana. But they avoid it. Why? Because its not politically correct and they want votes. They could care less because they aren't watching their towns turned into a foriegn land.
The health care plan is great in a fantasy world, but first off, I don't remember anything in the constitution that this country is founded on community support or the government takes care of the people, it was founded on the idea that you work hard and you reap the rewards. So why should I work hard just to watch my money go to pay for someone else's healthcare? Thats not America, thats socialism. But lets skate by because the government will take care of me....we have to take care of ourselves before we should expect anyone to take care of us.
Oil, they are all getting contributions from someone who is opposed to us drilling our own money. Hillary and Obama get money from tree huggers who drive SUVs that get 5 miles per gallon, McCain gets money from the oil companies.
SO really...the question isn't who is the best, it's whose not the worst? And does anyone else see a problem with this?

Posted by: mwhit | April 29, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

REV WRONG SPOKE TO MAINLY WHITE MEMBERS

MAYBE THEY ALL SHOULD HAVE LEFT

IF HE SAID THIS STUFF SO OFTEN

Posted by: HYDE PARK | April 29, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Thank you Sen. Obama. We're praying for you. You will be an amazing president!

Posted by: Kristen | April 29, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

It looks like Obama needed to see which way the wind was blowing before taking a definitive position. If that be the case, it seems that we may be in for an indecisive White House for the next four years.

Posted by: Estr | April 29, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Obama knocked Rev. Wright out of the park today! Well done Sir!

More interestingly is the Ron Paul phenomena, which is looking to shave a good five percentage points off of McCain's vote. The only question I have, other than a mild interest in the vice presidential picks, is whether Obama get 55% or 56% in the November election.....

As to Hillary, as they say around here, fuggaboutit. Her flaming wreck has almost fully augured in.

Just wait til the Dems rally round Obama. McCain's gonna look like gum on a steamroller.

Posted by: Rob L. | April 29, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse


..............OBAMA IS A LIAR.............

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Linda I:

It doesn't concern you, at all, that Obama stayed in that church -- listening to those sermons you are trying to downplay -- for 20 years? What if Obama, in fact, agrees with Rev. Wright and is lying about it now -- would THAT concern you?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

i acks you how you is?
we am bama!
gitchass out my crib

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

I'm blown away by people who for one minute would think that Barak doesn't share Wrights views. I have left churches for less. Obomya's whole campaign has been scripted and he's for the most part kept a cool head. They shot H Dean down for less than this 4 years ago. Denounce HA this dudes whole program is about making friends and negotiating with idiots in the Middle East go figure. I read this crap you people post daily and 80% of America has yet to wisen up. It tookthe majority 8 years to figure out Bush is a FU. It's not the politicians it's us as a whole. We buy whatever's being sold. Billary is ruthless and doesn't try to hide it. Everyone mocks Bill for getting a hummer in office WTFE.....

Posted by: michaelt | April 29, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

we am obama!
how you is?

Posted by: mamabamas | April 29, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

For the record, I am retired (and registered Independent, not Republican). What's your excuse?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Quick poll--answer "help" or "hurt" only.

Does today's press conference help or hurt Senator Obama's campaign?

My answer: Help.

But we'll see.

Posted by: Don't Speculate about AAs if You Aren't One | April 29, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

CIA SNOOPING GOT ME DOWN
GOT ME RUNNIN
GOT ME ALL OVER TOWN

Posted by: fingerprint file | April 29, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

if obama had ever claimed wright was his spritual advisor or mentor, it might be cause for concern. but they have both made clear this was never the case. wright was simply the pastor at a church obama belonged to

besides, its pretty hard to find a religious person who ISNT off their rocker batsh!t crazy.... religion is a mild form of induced insanity

Posted by: peabody3000 | April 29, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

CLEARLY, this is a question of JUDGEMENT!

Obama's campaign hinges on "WHo has the correct judgement?"

He attacks Clinton about the Irag war, questioning her judgement. He says he was against the war. It wouldn't have mattered, HE COULD NOT VOTE on this, as he was NOT a member of the Senate at the time!

NOW his denunciation of Wright speaks volumes about HIS JUDGEMENT!!! It took him 20 years to know this?

Give me a break!

IT'S OVER for OBAMA

Posted by: BJ | April 29, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

its tragic. Why is the media protecting Mr. Obama, by refusing Mr. Wright airtime.
I think Mr wright is refreshing not disastruos for Mr Obama. If Mr Obama thinks he's going to be nominated simply by being all things to all. It' not going to work.
This COUNTRY needs some fresh air. Mr Obama, the change you been talking about will be gone if you distance your self from people that love you. You will become more of the same

Posted by: broadwaydebut | April 29, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse


...........OBAMA IS A LIAR...............

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

re: "Does this JakeD guy have a job, or is he retired with, pathetically, nothing better to do than post on this site?"


So, you really think it's only one person...

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Obama threw Wright under the bus, about time since Wright won't shut up and not set Obama up for failure. You know the press has to take some of the heat for wright's comments they are giving him audience. I sincerely hope the press will take the responsibility after today and let this story die, forget the ratings-be americans and not opportunists. Obama is right for America.

Posted by: jac | April 29, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

ebony and ivory
right brain left brain
how you is?

Posted by: Sharolaid | April 29, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

ebony and ivory
right brain left brain
how you is?

Posted by: Sharolaid | April 29, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

I am not voting for Wright! Obama is going to be great for America. He has my vote.

Posted by: Linda I | April 29, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Oh can the Lies Barack Hussein Obama and
Michelle Obama you stayed in Rev Wright
Black Church Purely For Your Own Political
Gains With His Black Congregation Admit it!

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA AND MICHELLE OBAMA ARE
AS BIG OF TOTAL LIARS AS GEORGE W BUSH
AND DICK CHENEY! NO TO OBAMA ON ELECTION
DAY!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

WHAT HAPPEN TO THE TRINITY CHURCH CHOIR DIRECTOR IN DEC. 2007??????????????

HE WAS FOUND SHOT TO DEATH!!!

HOMOSEXUALITY INVOLVED...DRUGS.....MAYBE OBAMA.

PERHAPS REV. WRIGHT WILL TELL US ALL ABOUT IT, YOU THINK?

Posted by: Ebonyflash | April 29, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone else know what was "UPDATED" in the original story above?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Missouri Rep. Ike Skelton endorses Hillary. With NC Gov Mike Easley, that's two supers today!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

I think that we have become a very paranoid nation since 9/11 and if you are going to run for the highest office in this land in this day and age, you just can't give people so many things to worry about!!

I agree that when you add it all up, there are just too many unanswered questions about Obama's true beliefs, associations and background.

How can you spend 20 years with a Pastor and not live and breathe what they have preached??

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Posted by: JD | April 29, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Does this JakeD guy have a job, or is he retired with, pathetically, nothing better to do than post on this site?

Posted by: Bill | April 29, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

How you is?

Posted by: Sharolaid | April 29, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

It figures Jake the Repuke would listen to Newt Gingrich, who is a scumbag.

Gingrich dumped his wife while she was in a hospital bed with cancer.

Jake, you're a scumbag just like Newt.

Typical Repuke moron.

Posted by: Tom3 | April 29, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

WELL WRITTEN ARTICLE.
BARACK OBAMA!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

........OBAMA IS A LIAR..............

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

All Republicans, you are hereby required to denounce George Bush and the GOP or be considered muderers of 4000 Americans. You are also considered guilty of wrecking our economy and making us slaves of the COMMUNIST CHINESE. Go ahead now and repent, if not you will not get another chance to mend your anti-American ways. Works both ways you clowns.

Posted by: Tired of it all | April 29, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

How you is?

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Zaggy:

"... if both Hillary and McCain would do the right thing and drop out of the race Obama could very well win the presidency."

Lots of confidence you've got there (not). Instead, just have Cheney resign and somehow get Bush to nominate Obama as Vice President; then Bush could resign, and Obama "could very well" become President under that fantasy scenario too?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Americans are simple....Obama has a church and a home in Chicago......a 30 sec sound bite is not enogh to disown a friend that has helped you.......Obama gave Mr Wright a chance to explain his point and Mr Wright has gone wild......this is the time to denounce him.....if it is too late for you then you were never on Obamas team anyway......I've played on a team people make mistakes but as wild as Mr Wright has gone he has not sent anyones son to fight a war based on lies......Hillary did not show judgement .......Wright is established he has served the country......his extreme view is his own and you cant take accomplishment from the accomplished.......most Obama haters are consistently on WAPO talking up your candidate and Clinton haters doing the same...most candidate want you to forget about the war, economy and housing crisis....Mr Wright has very lil to do with the all mentioned so why does he continually have a spot on primetime.....its easy Wright spoke of it corporate owned media........United states of poverty....2020

Posted by: England | April 29, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

To the white educated 37 year old still living in Obamaland -- can you tell me where in his career he has made a change for the better? He was in Illinois politics for 12 years -- and it was never more corrupt. A governor in jail, another on the way, dozens going to trial, the city under federal oversight for cronyism and nepotism, terrorists as "education experts", racist preachers, and now the worst gang warfare in Chicago history. This is Obamaland. This is where he spent 16 years as an elected representative. He went along with the corruption and cronyism. He complains about Washington, D.C. yet he is part of the most corrupt political machine in country, OBAMA is Chicago, and we are better off without Chicago politics going national.

Posted by: Karen | April 29, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Keep blogging dylan. your FBI file is growing.

Posted by: conrad | April 29, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Wright is simply jealous of Obama and is trying to upstage him. What a showoff! Definitely not speaking with humility and love nor Christ-like in any way. Didn't he call himself a Pastor? Wow - could have fooled me. Barack, your loyalty is ended to this man because he is trying to ruin your good work. You should publicly state that you are resigning from that church and distance yourself because your image as the next president is affected. Don't let this little twirp damage your campaign. Wright is jealous of you and wants to be the BIG MAN!

Posted by: Betti | April 29, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Rev. Wright was RIGHT!!
Obama says what he has to say to get votes and to protect/affect electability.

We may disagree with some of Rev. Wright's views but he sure was not Rev. Wrong on that point!

Posted by: Ebonyflash | April 29, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse


Rev. Jeremiah Wright didn't say anything new at the National Press Club. Where was the outrage before? Why not disown him in Philadelphia speech? Instead Obama threw his own grandma under the bus in his Philadelphia speech.

Obama is a liar. "The person that I saw yesterday was not the person that I had come to know over 20 years." Give me a break. The person we saw yesterday repeated the same thing, only in a non-bombardic way.

Time to unite behind Hillary Clinton!

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

"Well, then I guess Obama is safe because nobody with a brain believes Obama shares Wright's controversial views."

Wrong!

Anyone with a brain open to input from the outside world will wonder: 'Who is telling the truth about how they really feel here, about what tyhey truly believe; the Rev. Wright, or Candidate Obama?'

Those who cannot distinguish the difference between what they want to believe, and what is actually true, will dismiss the Wright controversy (and any other information that fails to reinforce their worldview) out of hand.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Its not time wait your turn..your young take it easy..I know I was once young like you

take you time, maybe you should travel

Posted by: WELCOME TO THE MACHINE | April 29, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

This is a real shame. Barack Obama is the first black candidate with a serious shot a winning. He is running on a message of unity and overcoming racial divisions. That is apparently too much for Jeremiah Wright, once Obama's friend and pastor. He is trying to stab Obama in the back because he wants blacks to only be seen as victims. If Obama were to win, who would listen to his rancid diatribes?

Jeremiah Wright is a self-serving, backstabbing, hate-filled racist scumbag. Obama should have distanced himself sooner but he has finally done so for good. Go Barack!

Posted by: RealChoices | April 29, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, Obama! YOUR "OUTRAGE" ABOUT YOUR SPIRITUAL ADVISOR WRIGHT'S REMARKS IS JUST ABOUT 20 YEARS TOO LATE!

And you're getting your just desserts-just like you very hatefully threw your own white grandmother under the bus, calling her a racist, and equating (as only you could do) her innocuous remarks about being afraid of black men out on the street (which is not racist at all) with the good Reverend's remarks -defending HIM-THE EGOTISTICAL RACIST SUPREME at the expense of your own GRANDMOTHER, now Wright has turned the tables, and thrown YOU under the bus, because he strongly insinuated THAT YOU WERE BEING DISINGENUOUS, (like we didn't already know that about you!) BECAUSE YOU'VE NEVER REALLY REPUDIATED HIM, AND THAT HE IS STILL YOUR SPIRITUAL ADVISOR-HA HA! HE WAS 100% RIGHT ABOUT THAT!

GET OBAMA OUT OF HERE PLEASE! WE HAVE AN ELECTION TO WIN, AND HE HAS SPENT TOO MUCH TIME ON CENTER STAGE WHERE HE NEVER BELONGED IN THE FIRST PLACE-IT IS THE TWO CANDIDATES THAT ARE CLEARLY THE MOST QUALIFIED CLINTON/MCCAIN-WHO ARE THE ONES TO SUPPORT-AND AS THE MOST RECENT POLLS SHOW, IT IS HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON WHO CAN TAKE DOWN MCCAIN AND THE REPUBS. IN NOVEMBER!

Posted by: FARFALLE44 | April 29, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

If Obama shakes your hand, don't forget to make sure you still have your watch and wedding ring afterwards.

Posted by: Obama is Joe Isuzu.

Is that just with Obama? Or is that applicable to all black men, and men of color? One thing the majority of these deplorable and racist posts here clearly indicate, Rev. Wright has a right to be paranoid about what his country is capable of.

Posted by: tydicea

No, tydicea, it's not all black men or men of color. It's all politicians. Anyone who trusts a politician is an idiot, regardless of the politician's skin color.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

A little too late. Now he denounces after his political career is on the line. He didn't know about Farrahkan before? None of Wright's views? Please. Wright coming out is a no winning situation for Obama. If it's true he never heard of Wright's anti American stands for 20 years one has to question Obama's awareness and judgment. . If he knew of Wrights hate speeches and denied it then it comes down to just plain lying and serious lack of character.

Posted by: Kay Lani Ray Rakfo | April 29, 2008 3:21 PM
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Is that what it comes down to, judgment-like sending our mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, sons, & daughters to war without regard for facts; lying like imagining coming under attact by snipers in Bosnia because the lie sounded good for a foreign policy story; or a serious lack or character like throwing down shots in a bar chased by beer in an effort to make poor people believe that you are just like them despite the fact that you earned almost $110 million in income over seven years and probably haven't had a beer in at least 15 years.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Ok, I am really happy that Obama took this head on. Alot of my questions about his character have been answered in a positive way (in my mind at least). He took a stand finally and is not as much of a hypocrite as I thought.

It will make voting for him in the fall much much easier on me. Honestly it was paining me to have to abstain from voting for the first time in 20 years.

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous at 5:25 PM:

It doesn't concern you, at all, that Obama stayed in that church -- listening to those sermons you are trying to downplay -- for 20 years? What if Obama, in fact, agrees with Rev. Wright and is lying about it now -- would THAT concern you?

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

I like Obama, I think he is a smart man, and a great speaker with a good heart.

But...This is the office of the presidency we are talking about. It would be one thing if there were just a slip up occasionally..but from his wife's comments, to his past associations with some very questionable people, to his 20 YEAR ASSOCIATION with Rev. Wright, to not wearing the flag pin, it is just too much.

The American people have and will put up with a hell of a lot...From Clinton's philandering, to Dubya's out and out stupidity and moronic behavior--but your allegiance and patriotism just can't take this many shots! That is the ONE LEVEL that you must be squeaky clean on if you are going to run for POTUS.

I don't think this is as much about race, as it is simple credibility.

We can't take the DRAMA that comes with OBAMA!!

Posted by: Carrie | April 29, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Wright may not be wright about everything but there are some things he says that ring truer than the corporate media allow for. 911 was blowback. We do terrorise other countries. There are consequeces to global bully politics the US practices. The US in their voters name, meddle constantly in other countries. Even the first Gulf war was half cooked up. Saddam was encouraged to invade Kuwait. Then we frightened Saudi Arabia so much with stories of Saddams scuds that we effectively forced our troops onto Saudi soil. We knew perfectly well we could deal with Sadddam with a flick of the wrist, but we wanted our troops on Saudi oil soil, so we lied. Thats one of the main reason for Osama bin Laden and company to turn from being our CIA funded mujahadeen fighting against the Russians in Afganistan to being our mortal enemy. We invade, manipulate and occupy countries. You think its not terrifying to have bombs drop out of the sky aiming for you? Many in this world have faced those American tax payer funded bombs. No American on US has ever had to face a bomb being dropped on them.

Posted by: Joe | April 29, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

I think people give Obama too little credit. Obama is a fighter, and if both Hillary and McCain would do the right thing and drop out of the race Obama could very well win the presidency.

Don't let these petty stories against Obama fool you.

Posted by: Zaggy | April 29, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

The scrawny purple lipped freak should have been "saddened" ten years ago. It won't wash, Obama. You halfwitted fraud.

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Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

I am a 37 year old white college educated Obama supporter. I cannot believe the ignorant posts I see on this blog. This is why we have voted for George W Bush for 2 terms. It seems we as Americans have become so desynthesized from media and stereotype, that we have lost the capacity to discern the heart of another human being. Obama's message, not Rev Wrights's, is what has turned me on. It's like looking through an hourglass, through the smoke of the world around us, and seeing the right person for the right time in our Nations history. This isn't a high school competition. This isn;t a popularity contest. This isn's a competition for the best soundbite. This is an election for POTUS... Do we really think that somehow Barack is going to jump into the whitehouse and subjugate white people? People don;t make any sense. McCain wants more war, for goodness sakes, and Hillary wants to obliterate Iran and/or start a Middle East Cold War. Some people cannot see past the nose on the face... this is a helluva hot kitchen Obama is in right now and he is handling it well. Yet some of these comments are "gotcha" comments. He would be scolded for denouncing or not denouncing, scolded for going to the church, and scolded for being a so called muslim in the same breath. But, as it were, at the end of the day, the ignorant vote with the enlightened, and the likes of Ann Coulter will be praised while America shoves Obama under the bus. This is the beginning if the end of our country, I believe we've lost our way. The bigots in the room are judging Obama for the very bigotry they hold in themselves.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

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NEOCONS FOR CLINTON:

William (Bill) Kristol; Editor of the Weekly Standard, key pusher for invading Iraq, talking about Hillary Clinton:

"I like to be on Hillary's side"

"She is a good candidate"
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"I am with her. I am with her"


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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352785,00.html

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

The pope still gets associated with the Nazis from 60 years ago, and we are supposed to let a mere mediocre politician off the hook in an instant. I use the term "incoherent" to describe liberals, and it has never been truer than it is now.

Posted by: bkp | April 29, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Mark Skudlarek:

You really think that the U.S. got what we deserved on 9/11 for winning World War II? BTW: Newt Gingrich theorized today that Wright may not want this particular congregation member to get elected ...

BB:

No problem -- it's getting fast and furious on this thread -- we are going to set a record to 1,000 posts in just a few hours.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

After reading most of whats been written here , it would seem that the right rev was just that , Right !!!

Posted by: Me ... | April 29, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

You bitter, miserable idiots on this board are so sad. Obama will be the nominee and will win the Presidency. Its time for a change and all the hateful Hitlery supports can't stomach she won't win. Obama will win Indiana and North Carolina and you can't stop it. This nonense only makes me like him more. Notice that he doesn't lie like Hitlery, we can't find anything on Obama so we are now blaming him of the views are everyone he knows. Are you guys perfect? So you agree with EVERYTHING the people in you life think? You guys probably don't have anyone in your life. Its you insane, intolerant losers is what is wrong with this country. Obama is actually being attacked for not being the typical dirty, sleazy politician because you've all been BRAINWASHED by all the Bush's and Clinton's and corruption of the past. I will gladly vote for Barack when he's the nominee and despite how vicious you guys are, Obama will still fight to give you a better life because that's the kind of man he is. He will still treat you all with kindness and compassion and make decisions that will make you lives better.

Posted by: Carol | April 29, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

He did the right thing. Where this will lead I do not know. As a black woman I recognized that Rev Wright is of a generation that is long gone.
This in my estimation is his greatest crisis not anything before.
He did get two superdelegates today but who knows.
The media will continue to eat itself.
I just wished that she was not in the race anymore, it makes things doubly hard since she will join the fray.

Posted by: debragw | April 29, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Oh Obama. You must remain strong, disagree but continue to love. God bless you. '08

Posted by: Obama2008 | April 29, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Why do the Neocons support Clinton?

BECAUSE SHE IS ONE OF THEM!!!

Posted by: Tom3 | April 29, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Go Barack! We are praying for you. I'll go to the polls on Tuesday and cast my VOTE for OBAMA.

Posted by: George from Indiana | April 29, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

If you were serious re:

"Tell us what the black community really believes. We are listening"

then you would talk to your neighbor
you would ask a Black American what he thought. That's what I do.

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Would the real Christians please stand up?

I'm not even a Christian, but it really gets me when everyone piles on Wright for being "unpatriotic". He's a MINISTER, a PREACHER. He's NOT a pol. How can anyone seriously imagine that, if Jesus were alive today, he'd be singing paeans to our corrupt/dysfunctional government and waving the newly blood-stained American flag in a paroxysm of jingoistic national pride?! How can anyone accuse a Christian preacher of being a liberal extremist, and not see the stark irony that Jesus too was a liberal extremist in the eyes of the Roman Empire and the orthodox religious establishment of his day? And then you people go around accusing Barack of hypocrisy... I wonder, how many pieces is YOUR glass house in, by now.

Oh yeah, let's all keep listening to troglodytes like Rush and Hannity, and be their faithful robots; I mean, were would we all be if we HADN'T kept listening to them for the last 10 years?? Y'all make me sick.

Posted by: B.E.S. | April 29, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Gore '08

Posted by: rzzzzz | April 29, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Wow! Seems like a war going on here. Everybody needs to calm down. Obama has rightfully slammed Wright, now let's see what happens. All these folks here that act like he's toast, may be wrong. Obama's been known to have everything slide off of him like Teflon so we shouldn't be so premature.

I'm sure the Mancrush Clubs at MSNBC and CNN are in full damage-control mode. Everybody take a deep breath.

Posted by: brigittepj | April 29, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

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Because they know they cannot beat Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Rev. Jesse Jackson and Rev. Al Sharpton, why so quiet??? Does Rev. Wright speak for the black churches and communities??? It is hard bo believe that the racial bigotry that exemplifies Rev. Wright, and has raised him to a Super-star status, is preached and condoned in the black Christian churches. By remaining silent and not denouncing Rev. Wright's outrageous diatride you are in effect condoning it. Tell us what the black community really believes. We are listening.

Posted by: wndctyctz | April 29, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Obama...we love you!!! You have won over two supers TODAY....in the midst of the storm you often do well.....Can't wait to dance at that innaugaration party.....

Posted by: Obama 08 | April 29, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

"It doesn't take but ONE viewing of Fox News to understand what it's all about."

Only inbred illiterate Repuke rednecks watch FOX "News".

Everyone else knows it is Repuke propaganda, lies and spin.

Posted by: Tom3 | April 29, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

MASSIVE VIDEO CATCH

SHOW OBAMA

SKIP CHURCH

1000 OF TIMES

ON U-TUBE NOW

Posted by: new flash | April 29, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Obama denounced Reverend Wright. Why doesn't MCCAIN step up to the plate and repudiate Pastor John Hagee and his hateful comments. There is a double standard at work here........

Posted by: johnny K | April 29, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

I hope SOMEONE is offering Rev. Wright armed bodyguard protection.

Posted by: JakeD | April 29, 2008 4:51 PM
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That is why the Nation of Islam security was with him in D.C., that would be the same security team that squashed homicides in the District (without weapons) until Republican Bob Dole had their contract snatched. How is ole' one arm doing anyway?

Someone mentioned Rush Limbaugh...Is he still around. Didn't he go through some kind of "intervention" or something. You can never listen seriously to a man who pops pills like tic-tacs.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Its a bit of a sick situation that a few so-called super-delegates will decide the future president of the united states. Doesnt say much for democracy

Posted by: SAF | April 29, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

"So, being highly educated isn't the end all and be all of life, proof positive and justification of the correctness of one's arguments in favor of Obama. But isn't that a big positive the Obama supporters have been spouting about all along: that he and his supporters tended to be the "Highly Educated?"

Well, eating right and exercising is a good thing but once in awhile someone who is in shape will still have a heart attack. That doesn't mean we should all start eating big-macs in front of the TV. Being educated is a good thing, despite Rev. Wright- but there's a bit of a false story here. Yes, Obama's supporters tend to be better educated, and I'm sure that means something (what I'm not sure). The candidates, however, are both well educated. Heck, even Bush went to an Ivy League school. The real problem is with the anti-intellectual movement that gave us Bush. That's why I'm bothered by Clinton- when she goes and adopts a southern accent and sips whiskey she's giving into that same movement that attacks Obama for being nuanced in his answers and 'talking pretty'. Education isn't the real factor for me, the real factor is watching how the candidates treat education- as a positive or negative. Bush and his cronies consider education to be a necessary evil. I like that Obama seems to hold it up more so than Clinton as a good thing.

Posted by: epthorn | April 29, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Rev. Wright has established his legacy; the black man who stabbed his parishioner in the back. Rev. Wright will forever be known as the man who screwed this countries first, viable black/white candidate. Looks like we will be left with the lying Clinton's again. Let us not forget " I did not have relations with that woman" and "we had to run for cover because of the shooting in Bosnia".

Posted by: Bill | April 29, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

This message was expected since the first time we watched the videos of his Reverend.
Now it is late to say who isn't totally agree with what their "EX-Reverend" said ....
Too late to Obama ... and all democrats know it.
Go Hillary !!!

Posted by: Nuccia | April 29, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

i am begining to believe a even depper truth

OBAMA PLAYED HOOKEY INSTEAD OF CHURCH

oh my

Posted by: conspircy theory | April 29, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Tom - ROFL!

JakeD - sorry about the accidental post under your name. That was supposed to go in the body of the message.

BB

Posted by: Fairlington Blade | April 29, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

just heard that Hillary just knocked out her two front teeth, tied a confederate flag around her neck, bit off all of her fingernails and dragged them around in dirt, scratched her face, has a gun holster on her hip and a shot of Johnny Walker in her right hand giving rally speeches on the flat bed of a red pickup truck with a rope tied in a noose hanging out the front door....Dang....what she won't do to win over that rural white vote! LMAO

Posted by: Hee Haw!!! | April 29, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

While I was unaware of any conspiracy theory in which the US Govt developed, or spread the HIV, the rest of what the pastor said is true. A simple, unbiased exploration of the history of the expansion of US territories supports Wrights views. The real problem is that most Americans will not surrender the lie that American government is, and was always, somehow immune to such imperialistic, and war-like tendencies; that America's motives are always righteous. America is no more right than GW is when he makes his stupidest of decisions. The best thing about America is that there is an opportunity to make it better. Wright may want to shut-up if he wants his congregation member to get elected. American's are fickle voters.

Posted by: Mark Skudlarek, Planet Earth | April 29, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

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