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Obama Stumps in Indiana

By Alec MacGillis
ANDERSON, Ind. -- When Barack Obama headed to Indiana and North Carolina after his loss in Pennsylvania, the question loomed: would he continue to ramp up the tough tone against Hillary Clinton that he flashed in the final days before the April 22 vote?

Judging from several days on the trail in Indiana, the answer so far appears to be no. In his Hoosier stump speech, Obama has returned to training most of his fire on Sen. John McCain and Republican governance of the past seven years, only secondarily going on to explain why he would be a better Democratic nominee than Clinton.

His sharpest words in Clinton's direction did not mention her by name. On a day when her campaign was demanding that he take part in a "Lincoln-Douglas-style" debate, Obama decried the "ticky-tack" nature of the primary campaign.

"If you watched the last few weeks of campaign, you'd think all politics is about is negative ads and bickering and arguing and gaffes and sideline issues," he said at a town hall meeting in this struggling manufacturing town. "There's no serious discussion about how we're actually going to bring jobs back to Anderson, that's not what's being debated. That's the politics we've gotten used to over the last 20 years, and I'm tired of that politics because it doesn't solve problems. One of the things we've got to do is bring this country together and stop being distracted by back and forth ticky-tack. I've resisted that in this campaign and I will continue to resist it when I'm president of the United States of America."

In each town he stops in here, Obama is introduced by a local resident who symbolizes the tough economic times, and Obama then proceeds to list depressing economic statistics specific to the town describing job losses and income stagnation since 2000. This leads to his indictment of the Bush administration and, by association, McCain. He attacked McCain for saying recently that the country had made economic progress in the past seven years - a quote that Obama takes out of context - and criticizes his plan to extend Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy.

"Think about it -- this is somebody who back in 2001 opposed the bush tax cuts for the wealthy, saying it offended his conscience, but somewhere on the way to the Republican nomination John McCain sort of lost track of his conscience, the Straight Talk Express lost a wheel ... If he thinks that's straight talk he must not be talking to the people of Anderson."

Both in Anderson and a previous town hall in Marion, he argued that he was a better choice for the nomination because he would be better positioned than Clinton to overhaul a stalled Washington system. And he criticized her at both stops for voting for a bankruptcy reform bill backed by the credit card industry.

But unlike his campaign in adjacent Ohio, he did not attack her for her role in enacting the North American Free Trade Association Agreement, which is unpopular in towns like Anderson (in fact, he barely even mentions the trade deal by name anymore.) And when given an opening by a voter here to criticize her campaign's comments defending the Veterans Administration Affairs health system, Obama passed, saying he mostly agreed with that defense.

"Senator Clinton has differences with me and I have differences with her," he said. "I just have to remind everyone that those differences pale in comparison with the difference we have with George W. Bush and John McCain. We will be unified in November for the change this country needs. I promise you that."

By Washington Post Editors  |  April 26, 2008; 4:48 PM ET
 
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The most disrespectable of the media couldn't fight their vested interest in seeing the distant Democratic race go on.

They want people to think Hillary has a chance because it gets people watching.

That's why they tried to bail her out of failing to hold on to a minimum 10point lead from hear earlier 20point lead in Pennsylvania, since she only won her type of state by 9 points!

So what did the media do? As soon as the incoming numbers moved around to a 10point lead, news outlets like CNN (the ratings-whor* network that features Lou Dobbs as a supposedly respectable journalist) reported that she won by 10 points.

Do you think we're stupid?
I don't blame the Clinton supporters for their emotional attachment to their candidates...

but let be honest. North Carolina coming up and the story will be even harder to fake for or spin for her inept campaigners that she chose out of loyalty rather than skill...

Posted by: eljefejesus | April 28, 2008 1:23 AM | Report abuse

JACK SMITH YOU MOST DEFINATELY ARE A CLASS A IDIOT

Posted by: KEMPY76 | April 27, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

i saw this video in you tube ...
i was an oama suporter BUT NOT ANYMORE ..
2-Bisexual OBAMA Secrets EXPOSED By Puerto Rico TV Station YOUTUBE VIDEO

Posted by: EXOBA | April 27, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 27, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Obama Watch:

* Obama is scared of debates..

* Obama calls his supporters Chablis drinking limosine liberals

* Obama pushed MLK under the train by comparing his speeches to Rev Wright's speeches.

* Obama thrashed a bunch of high school kids in basketball, not caring for their feelings, just because he cannot bowl

* Obama insulted the marines by wearing a USMC T shirt. Has he ever served in ROTC. Even Bush has served there.

All these juset for the weekend.

- A Masschusetts Democrat for Hillary 08 or else McCain 08

Posted by: vs | April 27, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

A 21st Century White House!! That place is dusty indeed.

GO OBAMA!! Looking forward to November!! Your supporters Love your stances on the issues we feel so strongly about, and we'd like SOME Changes- As much as you can set straight with the works of Washington so that so many are not looked over and screwed over as members of this Great Nation. Looking forward to your 21st Century ideas, wisdom, common sense, and you will power to be a great representative of The People and this entire country to the rest of the world.

Obama for '08! Be positive!

Supporters all across this country, North-East-South-and West: Stand Ready =)!! United, let us all stand together For The Cause and For the Good of this country as One. It IS amazing, what the force of ordinary people can do. Yes We Can!

C'mon INDIANA and North Carolina!! =)

Posted by: Obama2008 | April 27, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

A man that has done nothing has no empathy and will make tragic mistakes.

Posted by: hhkeller | April 27, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse


On Saturday, April 26th, a small group that I was a part of, made a short walk towards the court house in Macon County, to exercise our rights to vote in a primary election, guaranteed to us by our Constitution. We, as Obama supporters, felt it as an obligation to exercise our beliefs and values and progressed towards the early voting process to state these beliefs. During this small walk, a very negative racial slur was blurted out towards our support of Obama and it was ignored and the group continued to the courthouse. Why did we vote for Obama? Every day we hear the public griping about fuel prices, food prices (71% higher than last year), living conditions, school financing problems, etc. Who has the chance to change the goings on in Washington? The same people that are there and have been there for 35 years? No. Why is the public so scared to take a chance for a change in our government? Why does the public hang on to the same way that Washington has acted for the last eight years? There is only one choice for our CHANCE to change the way Washington works and a CHANCE for us to gather together and to CHANGE high prices of food, gas and living costs. Barack Obama is our CHANCE and we need to step up and not support what is and was, but rather support what CAN BE. Before you vote for a candidate, ask youself if you want the same or do you want to take a chance for something different. That is your choice. It is time for our country to come together before the Washington machine destroys it.

Jim McCoy
Franklin, N.C.

Posted by: veteran1964 | April 27, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Sun writes -- "...our future president should be conscious about setting a GOOD example for our youth".

Absolutely!!! I am so disgusted with the Clintons. I used to defend Bill Clinton but not only has he soiled a dress and then claims he was not having sexual relations with that woman, now he is ticking African-Americans off so much they wonder how many years his actions are goint to set us back on our race relations.

Democrats have stood up for the rights of working people, of the poor and certainly for minorities. 40 years ago, this nation was still allowing significant discrimination and were it not for folks like MLK Jr., who knows what attrocities would still be occurring which demean people of color.

And Hillary wants to claim that were it not for LBJ, MLK would not have met with success in the civil rights movement. I have news for her -- LBJ did not "grant" power equivalent to white as a result of MLK's protests, he surrendered it.

And rightfully so. And now it's time for Bill and Hillary to surrender their power. We're tired of the antics in Washington, the do anything and say anything to get elected and then continue to vest power in the wealthy and the well-connected.

Were it not for Hillary Clinton loaning her campaign $5,000,000, this primary campaign would have been over. So, she's buying votes, making misstatement after misstatement (that she recalls "landing under sniper fire", that she is was againt NAFTA, that she's not a military hawk yet she was the ONLY Dem candidate who voted for defining the Iranian Republican Guard as a terrorist organization).

We're tired of elections being bought but the rich and well-connected. We want real change.

Not this time, honey. Your tricks and negative campaigning are not going to work. We see what you and John McCain are up to and we will not be duped.

I wish Barack WOULD debate Hillary in a Lincoln-Douglas debate, and just unload on her, but he won't. He's a stateman. I like that about him.

He's going to win, and he's going to make a very fine President.

I want to have a President to whom I can have my children and grandchildren look up to. The only one left standing who qualifies is Barack Obama. Not Hillary. Not John McCain.

Barack Obama -- that's the man, Sun, who we can say to our grandchildren, "Look at Barack & Michelle, if need a role model. Do what they do".

I just could not say that about Bill & Hillary -- I'm amazed at those who can respect them. We can do better.

Haven't we Dems been drug through the Clinton Dramas long enough? Want to lose to McCain? Or, if she wins, want to lose our majority in Congress? Just put Hillary at the top of the ticket.

No, there's just too much at stake to gamble on nominating HRC. Thank God most of us see that.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 27, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

The article suggests that Obama only agreed with Clinton's defense of the Veterans Affairs health system. There was much more, however, and he pointed specifically to what doesn't work and need to be fixed. Check his answer here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ4h6Ovfj3k&eurl=http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/samgrahamfelsen/gGCjh3

Posted by: Daisy3 | April 27, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

The article suggests that Obama only agreed with Clinton's defense of the Veterans Affairs health system. There was much more, however, and he pointed specifically to what doesn't work and need to be fixed. Check his answer here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ4h6Ovfj3k&eurl=http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/samgrahamfelsen/gGCjh3

Posted by: Daisy3 | April 27, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Hillary's remarks about obliterating Iran and her insistance that the US should use threats of nuking Iran as a "deterrent" is just further proof of what I've suspected of her all along - that she is willing to say, and even do, anything to prove how "tough" she is. This is no way to introduce herself as a potential US president to a country and a world tired of Bush's "bring it on" foreign policy.

It's always the "tough" presidents who are so willing to send other people out to die, and who couldn't be bothered with caring about the suffering of the innocent.

Barack Obama has said he will bring a new "mindset" to foreign policy, with a focus toward negotiation. His restraint and his thoughtful policy arguments demonstrate that it's true.

One other point: As a (white) grandmother, I did not appreciate Hillary's glamorization of drinking shots with beer. THAT's definitely a mindset we could all do better without; our future president should be conscious about setting a GOOD example for our youth.

Go Obama!

Posted by: Sun | April 27, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Congressman Clyburn calls Bill Clinton a racist. Has he ever commented on Michelle Obama or Rev Wright. CLYBURN ,CRYBABY, and his ilk needs to CHILL OUT. IT is racism when 92 % vote by color...

Posted by: Anonymous | April 27, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

The DNC didn't want my vote in the the primary...they sure as hell not getting it in November....I only hope every democrat in Michigan and Florida feels the same.

Posted by: lucygirl1 | April 27, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Ok here it is. The experience card does not hold water! Of course one needs to have some experience like senate, lawyer etc. I think one who uses their head will be at a great advantage; but, in the past our highest ranked presidents have been the least experienced. For instance Abe Lincoln seen as number one had very little experience before becoming president. Here is a good link explaining the trends. http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Info/experience.html

Posted by: jon | April 27, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Gino Buddy,
Interesting words. You are indeed a racist. Now lets think here for a second. Black people built a substantial part of this country and its wealth in the slavery days now you want them to pay the price again? What is wrong with you? Go to school or at least read about the constitution. Gino is classic proof that we need better education in the USA.
Justconsider posted a really nice post. Now that is debate folks! Instead of talking about pure crap. I heard someone mention we need someone tough? No!!! Look where that got us. How about someone that can use their head and lead.jw

Posted by: Anonymous | April 27, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Just keep campaigning the way that you have Obama. Stay positive and stay focused!

Obama should stay focused on his 50-state strategy. He should campaign hard in Indiana and North Carolina. Even if he wins both on May 6th and Hillary drops out on May 10th, he should keep campaigning as though he must connect with voters of the remaining states of Kentucky, West Virginia, Oregon, South Dakota, and Montana.

Obama knows he can't attack Hillary like she has him. His political campaign's reputation is based on being above the old-Washington-style politics of distraction and personal destruction, and besides he is the front-runner having won more pledged delegates, more states, and more popular vote.

Posted by: AJ | April 27, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 27, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA '08....We love you OBAMA.....you will be our next President....Please continue to stay above the bitterness, ugliness, and devisive, hateful tactics. Continue to be a class act with much class and dignity...This is why you are winning....don't fall for the low class poor and pathetic behavior of the Clinton camp and their supporters...They are extremists, bitter rednecks....It's so good that other worlds are seeing first hand just how racist and stupid half of America is...hahahaha.....this is why these pathetic fear monging, hateful, racists idiots voted for GWB for two terms...They voted against gays, abortion, affirmative action, etc. Therefore they voted with ignornace and because of their ignorance...they have suffered the most. Isn't it interesting how hatred always comes back to bite the producer in the behind!!! LMAO....The democratic party is not dumb enough to throw away the black vote, the new voters, the young voters, and the educated voters....These are the dependable voters...The angry middle class rural white voters aren't dependable,...they are the ones who voted for GWB...

Posted by: Obama '08 | April 27, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

AS a MUTT mixed race person OBAMA is one of mine and I am one of many

Posted by: MUTT | April 27, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

JUST IN Hillary new End Game Puerto Rico winner takes all should decide the election, even tho it can't vote in GENERAL ELECTION, but Caucuses Really are meaningless....

COUNTDOWN TO VICTORY
298 OBAMA
436 Clinton 400 elected remaining incl.

the 55 Puerto Rico votes that are winner take all.

GO INDIANA GO NC
GO OBAMA 08

Posted by: DELGATE MATH | April 27, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Obama is not my favored candidate against Hillary. You can call me racist if you can call Obama Elitist. I think this country belonged to the Indians and the invading Whites and - therefore the Whites only. Obama can put a carpet of nice words to smooth everyone, but not for me. He is a black fellow. Being black he can never be rational to the Whites, just NEVER. Whites still constiture some 60 % of our population in the US. Obama is not white. And therefore, no matter what his remarks, he is taking my country away from what I call mine.

Posted by: Gino | April 27, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Countdown to Victory
298 OBAMA
436 Clinton
400 Elected 300 Supers to Go

Why is Hillary talk about NUKING the whole county and MIllions of people in IRAN.

and protecting the SAUDI's didn't Saudi citizen attack her new city of New York?

Go OBAMA

Posted by: DELEGATE MATH | April 27, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

This is why I support Obama. He is trying to fundamentally change the way Washington operates. Politics as usual is a threat to national security. At least, domestically, it is. Politics has so diverted the attention of the American People that they cannot see that what is truely impacting their lives, their neighbors lives, is not a subject of conversation on the campaign stump.

A failing American education system is something that impacts us all. And we will pay the price for it when these youngsters get older.

Rising oil prices and alternative fuel sources is something that every American who drives to work or takes the kids to soccer has to deal with.

Rising oil prices in the face of a declining dollar value speaks for itself as a domestic crisis.

I'd like to think that Clinton supporters too would understand that this war in Iraq was a violation of international law. It has created more enemies against the United States than friends. Does this make us safer?

United we stand, divided we fall. This is most particularly true for the Democrats in November. In this primary, we need to start using the language of party unification and solidarity if we are to stand even a snowballs chance in hell of winning the General election.

Posted by: Concernedaboutdc | April 27, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 27, 2008 9:53 AM | Report abuse

"There is no doubt that Barack Obama is an eloquent speaker. But when I ask people what he has done in his first & only term as an US Senator, no one can give me a response except for "Well, he got elected to the Senate!"
---Posted by Silent Majority

You like to post this dubious charge, so guess I'll have to reply again.

Since entering the U.S. Senate, Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096.
You can go to the Library of Congress site directly and research for yourself. http://thomas.loc.gov/

For example, here are some important pieces of legislation that will make the world safer and promote responsible and responsive governance, which benefits us all. Note that Lugar, Coburn, and Hagel are all Republicans.

--Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, signed into law in Jan 2007. Expands U.S. cooperation to destroy conventional weapons and also expands the State Department's ability to detect and interdict weapons and materials of mass destruction.

--Coburn-Obama Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act, signed into law in Sept 2006. This bill creates a Google-like search engine and database to track approximately $1 trillion in federal grants, contracts, earmarks and loans, which should allow average citizens to monitor how our taxpayer dollars are being spent, or misspent--yes, transparency!

--Feingold-Obama Ethics Bill, which took on both parties and proposed ethics legislation that was described as the "gold standard" for reform. This became part of the final ethics bill that was signed into law. WaPo wrote, "The final package is the strongest ethics legislation to emerge from Congress yet."

--A provision from the Obama-Hagel Non-Proliferation bill to reduce risks of nuclear terrorism was passed by Congress in December 2007 as an amendment to the State-Foreign Operations appropriations bill.

--Coburn-Obama OVERSEE Act: Obama worked with Coburn to pass the Oversight of Vital Emergency Recovery Spending Enhancement and Enforcement Act, legislation to establish CFO oversight and prohibit the Dept of Homeland Security from entering into open-ended, no-bid contracts for emergency response activities, to stop the abuse of no-bid contracting in the aftermath of a disaster. Passed the Senate committee in 2006.

--2005: Obama successfully attached an amendment to the Senate Budget that allocated $25 million for international efforts to combat the avian influenza, and introduces the AVIAN Act (S. 969), the first comprehensive bill to address the threat of an avian influenza pandemic.

2006: Obama passed an amendment to the FY 2007 Homeland Security Appropriations Act that required the Dept of Homeland Security to create a centralized locator system through which family members can contact their lost loved ones during disasters. The amendment was based on legislation Obama introduced immediately after Hurricane Katrina.

BTW, in the IL senate, he sponsored over 820 bills (serving 8 years, from 1996-2004). He authored the most sweeping ethics reform bill passed into Illinois law in over 20 years. He sponsored a law enhancing tax credits for low-income workers; negotiated welfare reform; and promoted increased subsidies for childcare. He also led the passage of legislation mandating videotaping of homicide interrogations, and a law to monitor racial profiling by requiring police to record the race of drivers they stopped. Here's a graphic representing his record in the IL Senate: http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2007/07/29/us/politics/20070730_OBAMA_GRAPHIC.html

There's a lot more, but only so much space and time....Still, I hope you'll quit making the unfounded accusation that nobody ever offers substantive answers about what Obama has done.

Posted by: JustConsider | April 27, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

just what we need, another effette, elite , cowardly guy in office .

wasn't Bush enough? No to Obama

Posted by: Trey | April 27, 2008 9:15 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Chief | April 27, 2008 8:46 AM | Report abuse

This campaign has largely come down to character. People like people who are like them. Thats why you notice Clinton supporters are so malicious.
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What planet do you live on. Obamanites aren't vicious? Clinton has been called everything one can be called accused of everything one can be accused of, even murder, by the sheep of Obama and we are the malicious ones.

I personally have called Obama bone headed and a liar. He is. I have called him a race baiter. He is. He called me a typical racist.
I have called Obama's sheep, sheep, Obamanites, A**holes, idiots, A**holes, liars. A**holes, educated elitist, A**holes.

Your post are my proof. I take your words and Obama's words to make my decisions, not some right wing nuts words from the 90s.

Posted by: Chief | April 27, 2008 8:40 AM | Report abuse

Hillary is a Liar and Bill is a cheater!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: dmexcelsior | April 27, 2008 8:37 AM | Report abuse

Dear Jack Smith,
I have been reading your blog comments on many sites and I feel my CONGRATULATIONS are in order.
NOT that I support your arguments! No way.
NOT that I support your candidate! No way.
Like Hillary does, I could list, many, many many of your negatives and negative ideas. BUT !
If the DNC executive body had half YOUR drive, had half YOUR passion, and an inkling of commen sense plus the necessary b*lls instead of sitting on their backsides and twiddling their thumbs then we, you, {I} and the rest of the bloggers can sit back and concentrate on the real job in hand.
Your tilting at windmills, swimming against the stream. BUT, pushing us all to think a little more, which can't be bad.
Me, I can not vote in your election process , but am enjoying the verbal battle of the bloggers. All with your hearts on your sleeves. Congratulations to all.

ps. I get the idea that short comments bring a greater reader result than the long, long rubbish that you often see, like my blog here.
friend of all [ not working but classy!]

Posted by: friendofall | April 27, 2008 8:29 AM | Report abuse

An old bigot speaks.

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Just like Obama and his finger. Complete disrespect for women. Especially older women. Lots of class from the Obamanites. Yep.
Obama called her that too, and more.
Unless you're black, not from a small town of bitter people, you,re a racist bigot. I know cause Obama told me so.

Posted by: Chief | April 27, 2008 8:23 AM | Report abuse

This campaign has largely come down to character. People like people who are like them. Thats why you notice Clinton supporters are so malicious. They reflect their candidate. Hence a greater percentage of them say they won't support Obama in the general. Obama people believe in unity and have rightly come to the conclusion that any democrat is better than McCain. But This campaign trail says a lot about us as a country. I figure Obama despite his own flaws is a supreme uniter but people here act like they like unity, leadership and charisma when they actually don't care much for it; because Clinton and Obama have such similar policies, thats all there is to separate them.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 27, 2008 7:21 AM | Report abuse

@lambs
Actually here are more recent numbers: 99.99% reporting

Clinton: 1,245,911 - 54.553%
Obama: 1,037,953 - 45.447%
Total: 2,283,864 - 100.00 %
Difference: 207,958 - 9.105%

% of total vote: 207,958 / 2,283,864 = 9.105% or 9.0 % (rounded).

And to those going on about debates, debating is simply a skill. One of the best debaters was William F. Buckley, but I sure wouldn't have wanted him as my president.

The president does not govern by debate. I want my president to LEAD, to LISTEN, to UNDERSTAND COMPLEX MATTERS, to INNOVATE, to PERSUADE AND INSPIRE consensus amongst conflicting interests, and finally, to BE AN HONEST, DECENT PERSON.

That's why Obama needs to take his case directly to the voters.

Debates are too often exercises in oneupmanship and gotchas rather than a true reflection of one's complex ideas and positions, which cannot be summed up in 30-second attack answers.

Posted by: Boomerang | April 27, 2008 7:18 AM | Report abuse

Everybody knows the story of the little boy who cried "wolf". He cried it so many times that in the end nobody believed his words.
Could he have changed his tack and cried "Bear! Bear!"? Also a possibility. Even "Alligator"? might ring true in certain areas but no.
Hillary has now started to shout "Dinosaur, Dinosaur"! and she is not referring to "MCcain's age. "Sabre tooth tiger, Sabre tooth tiger!", and she is not referring to Obama,s white smile.
And then she wonders why people ignore her words, do not trust her and turn away from her message. That combined with Bill confirming her stories or trying to quieten down a mistake by stating that she was tired, or maybe it was a Wooly Mammoth instead!
Its par for the game for every candidate and supporter to try and link the opposing party to any irregularity in their stance.But a lot of trivia comes out of the woodwork, mainly scraped up by Hillary, who has lost the plot.
"Extra-terrestial, extra terrestial"! There she goes again!
Go America. Anyone but a Clinton!

Posted by: outinthefield | April 27, 2008 7:03 AM | Report abuse

Could someone explain to me how a 9.2% variance in PA can be called out as 10%? Please enlighten me. Even with rounding you can't get to 9.5% How would you get to 10%? There are only two choices: the actual @ 9.2% or round to the nearest 1/2 number at 9%. What am I missing?

Posted by: lambs | April 27, 2008 6:51 AM | Report abuse

It's about leadership and uniting people around the world - that's the difference. Obama unites, has been blessed with a rare quality of candor and diplomacy. Some people fear being told the truth, but that is the foundation of solving problems - the only way. Clinton is clearly about dividing to conquer. Our country and world will remain divided and eventually erode under a Billary machine.

Posted by: lambs | April 27, 2008 6:48 AM | Report abuse

American voters will put the right person in the Whitehouse. Democracy guarantees that.All this mudslinging politics and Dirty Politriks like kitchen sink strategy and below the belt tele ads will have a negative effect for the authors. WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND. Errol Smythe.

Posted by: Errol Smythe | April 27, 2008 4:54 AM | Report abuse

I'm pretty much neutral in all of this but, if Obama can't handle the heat of the debates or the campaign, if he becomes president the world is going to tear him apart. We can't afford to take any chances and I don't think he has the balls to standup to the world to fight for our freedom when need be. I don't particular care for war but I do think that it is sometimes necessary to protect our country and our freedom. I do like the guy but I don't think he is quite ready yet to become president. Maybe in about another four years or so he will be but not now.

Posted by: Deeply concerned | April 27, 2008 4:42 AM | Report abuse

Obama undestand Hillary's strategy

Not winning this year but polarizing the Dems enough to make him lose in November
and then try again in 2012

So he's trying to unite the Dems behind him.
If Hillary search victory this year any political adviser wouls say her to stop the attacks right now (being agressive with someone who don't answer your attacks, it's very negative to your campaign)
If she continues, we will have another proof that she's not running for this year

Posted by: James | April 27, 2008 4:27 AM | Report abuse

Obama won without chance for Hillary to catch up in any practical way a very long time ago. Now it is time to discuss if and by how much he will be able to defeat McCain as well.

Posted by: eljefejesus | April 27, 2008 3:39 AM | Report abuse

How is it that hillary has 35 years experience? As far as I can tell, she has only has only held public office since january 3, 2001, while Obama has been in office since January 4, 2005. Yes, she has more experience, she has 6 years and he has 3. I guess you could say she has more corporate experience, she was on the board of wal-mart. Frankly, i'd rather not vote for someone who is on a first name basis with corporate bigwigs, thanks. I've always voted democrat, but I tell you what, if not for the damn war b.s., i'd vote for mccain before i'd vote for clinton. I don't like his positions, but I believe what he says. With Obama, I like his positions and I believe him. This nonsense about having so much experience is one of several examples where Clinton really seems to be stretching the truth.

As for Obama's supposed condescension, I just don't see it. What boggles my mind is the way the republicans are so obviously aligned with the elite, yet manage to get the lower and middle classes to side with them using cheap politics. It's the republicans who are bought off by big business, who seem to view politics as just another extension of a class based society where rich and powerful people get their say, how is it that they are so successful in portraying the left as snobbish? Obama is elitist? Nonsense.

Posted by: A guy in Seattle | April 27, 2008 2:11 AM | Report abuse

"Hillary doesn't need Obama for a debate. She can debate herself and her many positions on the same issue like the Iraq War, NAFTA, health care, the working class, Bosnia sniper fire, Irish peace accords etc. It should be an entertaining program. Wonder which Hillary will show up?"

Well, the latest personna: The Nuclear-" we will obliterate Iran." Hillary. She will probably neglect reading the National Intelligence Estimate again, and when that 3 AM phone call comes, the people in the Middle East better be ready to go into their bomb shelters.

The White House kitchen is getting pretty hot in anticipation. Heaven forbid. At least Bill never bandied about nuclear threats. She's turning out to be a pretty loose cannon.

Not this time, folks.

Posted by: Luke2 | April 27, 2008 1:50 AM | Report abuse

It's weird people are still using Obama's "bitter, guns, religion" comments" the way that they do. He was referring to issues these people vote on (cling to); he also mentioned that in the debate but it seems no one, even Clinton, heard that little part , which actually help his statements make a lot of sense.. Like my small town Mom who once said she didn't want to vote for someone because they were "gonna take our hunting guns away". I thought to myself, "what about health care and the economy etc?" We all know the government is not going to take our right to guns away. As far as I know, this primary is won by winning delegates and nothing else Obama is definitely ahead of the Clinton campaign. I think we all should be good sports here and try to start working together. Meanwhile check out CNNs delegate counter; you can play around adjust the remaining races and see where the delegates end up. To me it's almost a no brainer. cheers jon (NYC)

Posted by: jon | April 27, 2008 1:48 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Easy to Forget!

To all Caucasians here!
Just that you guys decided to ban slavery some 40 odd years ago doesnt mean everything is alright now.
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40 years ago huh? 1968?
Dang, I didn't realize Nixon ended slavery!

I mean, I knew it WAS a Republican, but somehow thought it was another guy.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 27, 2008 1:44 AM | Report abuse

Hey if everyone think Obama dont have any experince then why did he vote against the war? And if you think John McCain or Hillary has experince then why did they both vote for the war. So it didn't take experince to know that the war was wrong it took brains and nether Hillary or John even Bush have that. If they did those young mens at war would not be dead. We need someone in the White House with brains,I mean experince got us in this mess from the start. (Obama in the White House 08) Everyone please vote Obama we need a change

Posted by: tangy | April 27, 2008 1:43 AM | Report abuse

Bruce Springsteen rules: Barack Obama 2008

Posted by: Luke2 | April 27, 2008 1:43 AM | Report abuse

Hillary doesn't need Obama for a debate. She can debate herself and her many positions on the same issue like the Iraq War, NAFTA, health care, the working class, Bosnia sniper fire, Irish peace accords etc. It should be an entertaining program. Wonder which Hillary will win?

Posted by: svbreeder | April 27, 2008 1:35 AM | Report abuse

To all Caucasians here!

Just that you guys decided to ban slavery some 40 odd years ago doesnt mean everything is alright now.

You cant judge what 400 years of slavery does to a group of people. It doesnt go away in a few years!

Like Condy Rice said, "America has a birth defect when it comes to racism".

So be humane, be empathetic, be sympathetic and overall, be respectful!

God bless the world!

Posted by: Easy to Forget! | April 27, 2008 1:32 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 27, 2008 1:28 AM | Report abuse

To all the hates and racists hiding behind their computer monitors!

Obama is going to win and prove that America is truly a democracy and can go beyond your demented and hating minds!!!

Its time for all slave owners to realize that times have changed and a new beginning is on the cards for every person of color in this country!

Go Obama! I have contributed another 300 dollars last night!

Good luck and godspeed!!!

Posted by: World Loves Obama | April 27, 2008 1:27 AM | Report abuse

Fake ? here is your fake and all can be verified if you are not too lazy or disinterested in the truth and facts . Clinton's 35 years of " experience " ( plain hog wash ). To start with, for 14 of the 35 years that she's counting, Clinton was a full-time corporate litigator in Little Rock, Arkansas, at the Rose Law Firm. She was on WalMart's Board of Directors from 1986-1992, a company legendary for its low wages and union busting. Not surprisingly, her official biography omits this six-year stint. She was First Lady in Arkansas , not policy maker , to show how important she was, do you even know who the wife of the governor of your state is ? Likely not .And of course she was first lady in the White House , not law or policy maker , she didn't even have top security clearance .She has been a Senator for seven years and in that time has distinguished herself as the Queen of pork and lobbyists money and of course pulls the strings and votes their way in return . The corporations don't give bribe money for nothing folks .
Hillary Clinton , corporate lawyer , defender of the lobbyists and corporations , happy recipient of their money and pulls the strings and voting levers for them in return . For the working guy and for the people ? Yes and I have a house on the Pacific Ocean in Nevada I will sell you real cheap .Take the blinders off people , that awful boogie man Obama will actually do you and the country good , he is the most genuine and honest candidate out there .I don't care if a candidate is woman or man , white , black , yellow , green or purple just as long as he or she is honest and intelligent and is not sold out to the corporations and the wealthy but is for justice and fairness and is for the every day people in this country , for all of us .That leaves one candidate to vote for , Obama .

Posted by: Ray | April 27, 2008 1:25 AM | Report abuse

Many web sites which allow commenting have "moderation" systems -- mechanisms by which readers can rate the comments of others, and help the cream float to the top.

Given the drivel that appears on these threads, perhaps it is time for the Post to implement a moderation system. Every time I delve into the comments, I regret it.

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 27, 2008 1:21 AM | Report abuse

Let him eat his waffle and shoot hoops.

As for his state "reason" for ducking a debate...he sure took lots of voters questions during the b-ball game!!

He is afraid to deviate from any script. His platitudes are thinner now than they were to begin with. Just tired of proving his "street cred".

What a jackass.

Posted by: Typical White Person | April 27, 2008 1:17 AM | Report abuse

Obama is a quitter, He is literally running from Hil-Rod as though he is afraid to face-off with her. I will not vote for loser. He needs to be tougher and bolder. Talking all that noise...yes we can...now he is saying NO I Can't when it comes to debating her while this thing is still not over yet. He has not won the nomination but he is acting like he has. So, either he knows something that we don't know or he is showing that he a chicken not an EAGLE!!!!!

Posted by: Ebonyflash | April 27, 2008 12:52 AM | Report abuse

Headline: Obama says YES to Cheney

Foreword: I wrote the following comments about an hour before I heard Olberman report that Rush Limbaugh was promoting on his website: RIOTS at the Democratic Convention in Denver

We all know the ECONOMY is the #1 ISSUE in this campaign season.

Since ENERGY is an important basis of economics our nation's Energy Policy is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT...as we have all seen with the increasing cost of FUEL and FOOD engendered by the rise in Oil Prices.

The Mainstream Media has failed to address or air the 3 Presidential candidates' ENERGY POLICIES. (Have YOU heard anything about The Cheney Energy Bill?)

It was passed in 2005...while the Republicans still had control of Congress. Obama Voted FOR the Cheney Energy Bill. McCain Voted FOR it.
Clinton Voted AGAINST it.

Most of us, upon hearing of the EXISTENCE of a CHENEY Energy Bill would...assume it to be...NOT in the best interests of our nation or any of us Not Wealthy humans...i.e. some kind of RIPOFF of the American taxpaying public.

It also seems strikingly ODD that Obama, appearing to be a very LIBERAL DEMOCRAT, Voted FOR The Cheney Energy Bill.

Clinton has brought up Obama's YES to Cheney VOTE several times during the televised debates. YET...the News People asking the debate questions never followup by asking Obama: WHY DID YOU VOTE FOR THE CHENEY ENERGY BILL?. They Never followup by asking: What IS the Cheney Energy Bill about?

It is by far One of the most IMPORTANT ISSUES of our time, but the "mainstream media" just doesn't cover it. WHAT is the reason for the mainstream media's SILENCE on an ISSUE so critically important to our future?

I asked myself that question and went looking for the answer. This is what I found:

GE owns NBC & MSNBC. Westinghouse owns CBS. GE is the 2nd largest corporation on the planet: BOTH corporations have, for many generations, pumped vast quantities of PRODUCT...$ADVERTISING Dollars...into all forms of media.

GE and Westinghouse are the Major Players in the nuclear industry. An industry that was set to suffer a Slow DEATH...UNTIL...the Cheney EnergyBill gave it "a new lease on life". NO new nukes have been built in the U.S for the past 30 years because the banks would not loan money to build them - too risky.

The Cheney Energy Bill Solved That Problem For The Nuke Industry by GUARANTEEING TAXPAYER Payback of any of the nuke loans that default.

(Given that the Congressional Budget Office rated the risk of default at 50%, or greater...do you think it was GOOD JUDGMENT for Obama to vote FOR it?)

(Given the already substantial economic damage done by the SubPrime mortgage meltdown -what amount of economic damage are we LIKELY to suffer from SubPrime: Not Credit Worthy -lending- to the nuke industry/compounded by the fact that US TAXPAYERS would PAY the full cost of a SUBPRIME Nuke Lending meltdown?)

The nuke industry's plans to build 29 new nuclear power plants are already far advanced. Licensing hearings for the first few nuke plants have already been scheduled.

Second Level Major Players in the Nuke Industry:

Excelon Corp. of Illinois - one of Obama's largest campaign contributors since his earliest days in politics - biggest nuke operator on the planet; they own the nukes in Illinois; they own Con-Ed of New York.

Entergy - Owns many utilities in several Southern states.

3 Consortiums of other nuke industry players.

MSNBC & NBC have become more FAUX than FOX. All day everyday since last October I have seen on MSNBC & NBC..ALL their "reporters" and "news analysts" -(from Joe Scarborough and Mika Berzinski on "Morning Joe"-to Chris Matthews on "Hardball" in the afternoon-to Keith Olbermann in the evening BLATANTLY promoting Pro-Obama PROPAGANDA/ Slamming & smeaaring the Clintons...everyday all day long.

I'm not the only one who noticed. Millions of people noticed and posted their complaints about it on the internet. Last night Bill O'reilly on Fox news said - "MSNBC has become the Obama Network".
(I call MSNBC/NBC -BOP-N---Barack Obama Propaganda Networks.)

In response to...(unspecified...& unreported complaints) about "media bias" against the Clintons, Howard Fineman, TIME magazine & MSNBC "News analyst"---whined to Chris Matthews on "Hardball" last week: Gov. Rendell said to me -"you're from the Obama Network"-they shouldn't be complaining about US being biased against the Clintons WE're Journalists! WE just report the facts. (Pathetic...Fineman
...trying...to convince himself he's not -exactly what he is- a highly paid Propaganda Pusher.)

Obama's 20 year history in politics arose from Chicago, Cook County, Illinois.

The Rezko trial involves charges of extortion, fraud, money laundering, kickbacks, bribes; CRIMES
& Political CORRUPTION (at every level of government City, County, State, National) involving: allegedly,
Rezko, Mayor Daley, Governor Blagojevich, et al for crimes committed in the U.S.; and involving internationally 3 Arabic men: Rezko, Auichi, Alsammarae -for crimes allegedly committed in massive international frauds.

(Auichi was convicted a few years ago in the French Courts of massive fraud/robbery/looting involving the French ELF petroleum company and the U.N. Oil for Food Program.

Alsammarae was convicted in the Iraqi Courts of looting the Iraq electricity grid while he was the Iraqi Minister of Electricity...under Bush-Cheney's Coalition Provisional Authority. Rezko is accused of being Alsammarae's partner in that looting.

The mainstream media is airing very little coverage of Rezko's -City, County, State, National, and International Fraud/Looting trial.

For example, the Federal Prosecution's main witness testifed last week that Obama and his wife DID Attend a party thrown by Rezko at Rezko's Chicago mansion for his guest of honor AUICHI. Obama has previously stated that he: doesn't remember meeting Auichi. WHY is the mainstream media (TV, in particular) not covering the Rezko trial? WHY have they Still NOT Asked Obama if he DID or DID Not attend that party? WHY have they NOT asked Michelle Obama if she attended that party?

The conclusion I have reached from those and many other FACTS I have gathered from my impartial search is:

GE, et. al; the Corrupt Corporate "establishment"
-is running Obama and McCain for President -because they plan to reap $BILLIONS in RISK-FREE Profits from building 29 new nuclear power plants AND $BILLIONS more in RISK-FREE profits---For The NEXT 30-40 Years---from the HIGHER ELECTRICITY RATES produced by building nuke plants. i.e. The NEXT Big Dick Cheney MONOPOLY POWER
---ENERGY RIPOFF----
just...waiting in the wings...for Obama or McCain to get elected.

Currently, the mainstream media is PUSHING Obama for President and holding a lid on the BAD NEWS about him. If and when it reaches a point where Obama cannot get the nomination the corporate-controlled media will drop him and start pumping out PRO-McCain Propaganda.

GE, Cheney, et al prefer it to be a NO-RISK,
Win-Win (for Them) Presidential election WITH Obama vs. McCain. The Media is NOW pumping out: the contest is Over; Obama's the Winner; the Nomination BETTER NOT get "stolen" from Obama or there'll be HELL to Pay and the Democrat candidate will lose in November.

The Obama campaign was caught red-handed playing the race card to win the South Carolina primary
...in a 4 page internal Obama campaign Memo published online by the Huffington Post...but the Media went right on PUSHING the BIG LIE -they blamed the Clintons. Obama has repeatedly played the race card every time he is in danger of losing.

There are indications online that Obama: used MOBS of poor black people cramming into small govt. offices in Chicago during his "organizing" days to get some of the "changes" he wanted; that Code Pink and a group named ReCreate '68 are threatening to mass mobs of 50,000 in Denver to protest/incite riots at the Democratic Convention IF Obama does not get the nomination. DOES Obama have connections to the groups threatenting HELL to pay at the convention if he doesn't get the nomination...connections that could be covered by...plausible deniability?

Having already...recklessly, despicably, dangerously, played the race card repeatedly & supposing...Obama does have connections with left wing extremist groups...could electing him President get us -WORSE THAN BUSH-...incitement of interracial strife for purposes of Political Control... incitement of left-wing extremists/ riots for purposes of Political CONTROL? ...with the MEDIA aiding, abetting, lying and distorting...Reality...just like they are doing now?

Things that don't add up:

If Clinton is "the establishment" candidate -Why is her campaign constantly running out of money
while Obama has been rolling in CASH thruout the campaign?

The media tries to cover that by saying: well...her wealthy contributors have already given the maximum amount the law allows -they can't contribute anymore funds.

That's ridiculous. The "establishment" has enough cash to hire all the bundlers they need to go out and rustle up more cash from individuals employed at ALL Their Corporations, and from any other source. The media continues to PUSH the BIG LIE that Obama does not accept money from Lobbyists/Corporations -when a very brief search on Google will quickly turn up detailed confirmation of the fact that he accepts money from the same large corporate sources as the other candidates.

If Clinton is the "establishment" candidate...WHY isn't the corporate-controlled media PUSHING HER for President?

Obama's got the money. He's got the MEDIA Propaganda. He's the establishment candidate.

What's wrong with building 29 nuclear power plants?

Hillary Clinton: nuclear can be considered in the future IF they can make it CHEAPER and find a way to safely and permanently dispose of the nuclear waste.

Nuke waste/nuke waste dumps have been a steadily deepening nightmare for the past 50 years. (Google: Hanford WA nuclear waste dump; Rocky Flats CO plutonium, Barnwell South Carolina groundwater nuclear waste dump.

ALL the nuke waste dumps are CLOSED. Nuke waste has been stored ON-SITE at the nuke plants for the past several DECADES; providing several hundred terrorist targets vulnerable to devastating consequences from just ONE RPG.

The nuclear industry is already running a modicum of Pro-Nuke Propaganda Ads. They have bought up a few "environmentalists" & manufactured a lot more -for the LAUNCH of their upcoming NUKE PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN (The Nukes are GREEN & CLEAN Ad Campaign)-that will start-right after the November Prersidential election.

What can YOU do about it? Copy & Paste this message -email it to everyone on your email list. Google: "North Carolina blogs politics" and post this everywhere you can -post it on Newspaper, TV, and radio blogs. Do the SAME for all the upcoming PRIMARY STATES...as far in advance of the Primary Date as you can.

"Getting off coal to go nuclear is like giving up cigarettes to take up smoking crack" (I wish I knew where I read that quote so I could give credit to the author of it.)

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Looks like HUSSEIN has JUST STAMPED his name on SMALL BILLS since he has been a US Senator. Carp Bill, recognizing fire firefighters.

As a State Senator he did the same stamped his name on Bills worked by others.

This guy is a SHAM. No experience, guts, no glory. Just a USED CAR SALESMAN.

Preaches about change, unity, racial parity... but all his life he has done nothing for WHITE AMERICA. He came out of Harvard with the goal of being the Governor of ILL. He worked in the community to gain a reputation with the Black Chicago Community. He joined Trinity Church because of WRIGHT and status in the Black Community in CHICAGO. He registered black voters in Chicago to pave his way into politics. HE HAS BEEN A member of the Trinity CHURCH because he BELIEVES in the preachings of Wright. ( It was planned to bring Wright out AFTER HE LOST IN PA.. JUST TO CONTINUE MAKING RACE AN ISSUE.)

The Black American Voter is VOTING STRICTLY ON RACE.. when he receives 80 - 90 percent of the BLACK VOTE.. Black America is voting strictly on Race.

Now BLACK POLITICIANS AND THE BLACK WEALTHY are BLACKMAILING other BLACK AMERICANS TO VOTE FOR HUSSEIN.

They are already threatening the White America... what will happen if HE IS NOT NOMINATED. BLACKMAILING.. the White American Voter.

All based on Race.. HUSSEIN has used the RACE CARD his entire life.. to get loans for PRIVATE SCHOOLING, Entrance to his attendance at ELITE PRIVATE SCHOOLS. Affirmative action submittal of applications to COLUMBIA AND HARVARD.

Posted by: Miller51550 | April 26, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Let's get back to the issues and positivity, the people.

I stand ready Obama, '08.

I remain true to my stances on the issues

Posted by: Obama2008 | April 26, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton, as with the Bosnia sniper fire delusion, suffers from a fantasy that she is the front-runner, and with her forever shifting goalposts, her new fuzzy math and kitchensink-sewer, failed and bankrupt campaign, wants Obama to give her FREE AIR TIME to debate her for the TWENTY-SECOND time. I am an Asian American feminist older than Mrs. Clinton and as an American patriot, I need to do the right thing and tell Mrs. Clinton, shut up already! The Clinton dynasty has been spoiling not just Obama's race in November but also the entire Democratic Party and its representatives'--congressmen, governors, district officers, mayors, etc, etc--abiliity to win in future elections. Bill is fighting Obama to return to the WH for a third term, and Obama has been fighting not just two Clintons (both playing every dirty card in politics) but also the GOP and the mainstream media who want to see the contest continue and their high ratings maintained. Senator Obama MUST denounce and reject Hillary's shameless agenda, to gain free public airtime off his back. He MUST stop treating Hillary as an older white woman like his mother and therefore to be respected and see her for the corrupt (25 million dollars gained from influence peddling last year alone), lying (Bosnia sniper fire), bullying (Judas name-calling), ruthless (just look at her ads), unelectable (highest negatives ever in a presidential candidate, and negatives increasing every day) small human that she is. He MUST begin to draw the contrasts in campaign tone, character, and track record on community work and protection of our constitution that show Hillary as the base candidate that she is.

Posted by: lyn | April 26, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Stereotypes? A black candidate playing basketball? Seriously? Come on David Plouffe! Be smart!

Posted by: Midwesterner | April 26, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

I'm reading this posts and I can see that the Black Liberation Army is very active in here.Well... dont matter how many posts they going to put...Obama is the working people hater and must drop out.When German people were voting for Hitler and saw him they were crying and peeing their pants .Dont u see somthing familiar?
PS I heard that he is also a communist....I believe he is.Jus take the real close look at the logic of his speeches

Posted by: Mike | April 26, 2008 10:06 PM
MIKE WHAT PLANET ARE YOU FROM? OF COURSE THERE IS A NEED FOR Black Liberation Army. HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF SLAVERY? LIKE IT OR NOT SLAVERY HAS LEFT A TERRIBLE LEGACY FOR SOME BLACK PEOPLE AND TO IGNORE SUCH IS TO SICK YOUR HEAD UP YOUR YOU KNOW WHERE

HAVE A PLEASANT NITE

Posted by: IS HE SERIOUS? | April 26, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Why is bitter and typical such a bad thing? I am a sometimes bitter and typical black woman (not from the US) Do you really think I would be offended? No the issue is how can the bitterness be turned into brightness and how can typical become extra ordinary? Wake UP Americans!! Deal with the issues.

Posted by: Picky Picky | April 26, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Get Real folks!! You are not picking your next pope you are picking a politician. Either pick one of the two but for goodness sake pick one and end the bloody war.

Posted by: Mel | April 26, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Senator Clinton did not vote in favor of those 2005 draconian Bankruptcy Act Amendments pushed by the big banks, SHE DID NOT BOTHER TO VOTE OR COMMENT, in effect allowing her friends to get what they wanted.

You want a fighter for change or do you want a lackey backed by the financial industry? Your choice... now. Or do you simply want more of the same with McCain..

On taxes, yes, we are paying less now, but WE [our grandchildren] WILL PAY LATER. If you do not stop the spending on war and big guns, we have no hope for a balanced budget.

Stop allowing Senator Clinton to spin!

Posted by: MarkO- | April 26, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: ================================== | April 26, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

I apologize for my stupid, vacuous, repetitive postings.

Posted by: jacksmith | April 26, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Jack Smith is on someone's payroll for sure. Been here and other sites every day posting the same garbage day in and day out. I would encourage you to go look in the mirror. Take a hard look at yourself and then have a look at the condition of your country. Then take some time to write a new piece to post.

I would suggest to Lynn Parker, with great respect for your age, that you might do a bit more homework on Obama before you make mistaken comments and conclusions. I would encourage you to speak to others who know his background. Perhaps you have some family that could help you clear things up. For example, he is not a Muslim.

I believe that Obama was born to lead America at this time. The important question is - will America take up this generous and much needed opportunity?

Hillary's only way to the nomination is predicated on the Clintons' leverage of the party establishment and character assassination. She is doing this with malice afore thought and justifies it by saying if she does not do it, someone else will. Huh? She also claims this makes her a fighter. Well, no. It makes one question her moral fibre. I think if she is really tough and a fighter, she would use it to address the issues and fight all that is wrong with America. Instead she is using it as would a bully and to stir the pot of hate, fear and racism. The recipe in her pot is based on the book of Rove and Bush with a touch of K3 thrown in for flavour. Hardly strong leadership and moral fibre.

I have seen some recent questions raised on other sites about why the super delegates have not moved yet to close the deal for Obama - because they now easily could. Are the supers beholden to the Clintons and perhaps without the courage to support Obama for fear he loses in November? It might be a scary thought for the supers but they should think hard because - what a down right terrifying thought for America.

The way for Democrats to win in November is for the Clintons to drop their swift boat efforts to destroy Obama's character and candidacy. And, instead, Democrats should harness the dramatic change movement Obama is leading and focus the campaign on the real issues of America crying out for some true tough medicine - would a real fighter not be focused with all of their moral fibre and ferocious energy on that? The change movement is a real grass roots move, not just a bunch of words or hot air. If Clinton gets on the bus instead of throwing herself in front of it, all the more powerful.

America will get what it deserves in this election process - if the input and approach continues based on garbage then the outcome will be garbage too. I ask Americans to step back from the heated discussions around divisive issues that are being stoked by their leaders (yes your leaders) to see the reality of their situation in the context of their history and the immediacy of certain catastrophic issues that must be addressed (to list the obvious ones - the mistaken war in Iraq, the war on terror, the finding of Bin Laden, the economy, the dollar, America's standing and reputation, resuming its leadership on global issues - the financial crisis, the environment, poverty, health etc. and I would add the moral fabric of its society which has been badly mauled). And please look forward clearly to what is in your own best interest and your families' and especially, your childrens' and their future generations'. If you do that, I think you will see that you could only choose to elect Obama.

America is a listing ship and she must right herself soon or she will not stay afloat. I am confident, she will find a way to do this and end its long era of confusion, hate and fear. This will not be easy, but it is indeed necessary and long overdue and it starts with Obama.

And, I believe Americans in the majority across a broad spectrum of the population will have the courage to vote Obama for a new politics, a new discourse and a new future based on truth, justice and the true American dream.

Posted by: Paul Stewart | April 26, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Love watching America screw itself up again.

Posted by: Geddy | April 26, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Boy, he must be so fed up of her. Can you imagine?

Posted by: Nicky Hartzell | April 26, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

What a sorry state of affairs. If Hillary Clinton, John McCain and Barack Obama are the best this country has to offer to voters in America, no wonder we are falling towards mediocrity. Its not worth putting your shoes on to go to the polls.

Posted by: Mary | April 26, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Badger is upset because Obama isn't suspending gasoline tax this summer.

Hey Badger -- Obama is a candidate, he's not the president ... yet.

First get the facts straight -- then post a comment.

sheesh!

Posted by: 2dogwoman | April 26, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

To Tiddle,

I WOULD NEVER HAVE OR WANT A PROVEN LIAR IN MY ORGANIZATION. YOU'LL ONLY BE DISAPPOINTED AGAIN AND AGAIN. CHANGE. WITH MINIMAL EXPERIENCE, OBAMA HAS STOOD BY HIS WORDS. ALTHOUGH SOME OF HIS POLITICS ARE DIAGREEABLE HE STANDS BY THEM.

Posted by: madman | April 26, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

I'm reading this posts and I can see that the Black Liberation Army is very active in here.Well... dont matter how many posts they going to put...Obama is the working people hater and must drop out.When German people were voting for Hitler and saw him they were crying and peeing their pants .Dont u see somthing familiar?
PS I heard that he is also a communist....I believe he is.Jus take the real close look at the logic of his speeches

Posted by: Mike | April 26, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse


Illinois House of Representatives February 10, 2008 Rev. Wright Proclamation

www.webofdeception.com

Posted by: Robert Lewis | April 26, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Jacksmith -

You should change your name to jacks**t -- for obvious reasons.

Posted by: jac3 | April 26, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Hey " Jack Smith " , for the last several weeks you have posted line for line the same exact garbage over and over again all over the INTERNET " you might be an idiot " blah blah blah , look in the mirror Jack , there is the idiot . Clinton and all of her 35 years of experience is another line of BS just like her dodging sniper fire in Bosnia and single handedly bringing peace to Ireland when she had zero to do with it . She was the wife of a President at which time she didn't even have top security clearance and she has been in the US Senate only seven years , her thirty five years of experience is another line of BS , but as we have seen she will lie , exaggerate and stoop to any level . She should be selling used cars .She does have experience in taking lobbyist and special interest money and actually defends the lobbyists saying "lobbyists are people too" in one of the debates . Oil lobby money , insurance lobby money , Pharmaceutical and drug company lobby money and on and on , this is fact Jack not made up and imaginary like your so called facts . No doubt there are mental health facilities near by Jack , financial assistance is likely available to you , do yourself and the public a favor .

Posted by: Ray | April 26, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Lynn Parker is living proof that hillary clinton supporters are not educated. What does that tell you about their Candidate?..When did Islam become a country?

Posted by: JB | April 26, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Hillary to Obama: "He outspend me 3-to-1 in Pennsylvania. My question to Obama is: 'Why haven't you closed the deal??'"

Me to Hillary: "You have been in Washington for 30+ years, are a household name, have political connections and are known around the world. Nobody knew Obama, he literally rose out of the ground and made himself known. My question to you Hillary: 'Why haven't you closed the deal??'"

HA.

Obama 08

Posted by: edward in texas | April 26, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama is not a Muslim.
All the insinuations that he is are not true. It is not true, it is not true.

At some point, news agencies that release false information should be held accountable.

If you can offer fair criticism about his policies or his work in the Senate, then, by all means, that what intelligent political discourse should be.

Is every person named Goldberg or Weinstein Jewish? No.
How many Johns or Matthews are not Christian despite those names being found in the Bible?

With a little bit of research, you can look up for yourself what Barack has done. Hillary parades around like a peacock "I did this, I did that, and, by the way, I make stuff up sometimes..."

In the days of Bill's run for president, Hillary had this to say about working class white folks "Screw them, Bill. They haven't done anything for you, you don't have to do anything for them"

Posted by: Matthew | April 26, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Mr Lynn Parker, are you angry?
If you are old enough as you may claim and Christian why don't you read 1st Samuel 2:12-3:19. I like the verse 1st Samuel 3:3 and also an old man whose eyes see and who is not angry. If you are a Christian be one, if you are old be one, ..... when you finish Samuel search your soul and vote OBAMA.

Wise Old Men and Wise Old Women (true leaders)for OBAMA!!!!!

Posted by: Goggat | April 26, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

If the Clintons can't exit gracefully, Hillary may not even be re-elected Senator from New York. Do they want to burn all of their bridges?

Posted by: Lilly1 | April 26, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

sorry lynn parker but islam is not a country. they probably have geography and history programs in your area if you are able to read the ads in your local phone book.

Posted by: no bigot like an old bigot | April 26, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for addressing the issues rather than using fear and demagoguery, Obama.

How can we trust a politician like Clinton--or their media outlets--which obsess on small talk, "obliterating Iran," using the F(arakhan) word to create White Fright, and recapitulate the play book of Karl Rove?

If we are to disown Obama because his church mentioned Farakhan in its newsletter's sidebar, should we also disown all Catholics for His Holiness Pope Benedict being in the Hitler Youth as a child? Give me a break, Hilary.

This sort of myopic and powerhungry foolishness is precisely what the Republican party wants and precisely what Reverend Wright was decrying. That is, if America continues torturing, impoverishing its own people to spend $1 Billion per month to destroy another country, that is the type of behavior the Bible condemns as damnable. Read and listen to the entire speech rather than only soundbites. The week before Dr. King was assassinated, he was preparing a sermon with the same phrase.

Finally, Bill Clinton sought the counselling of Reverend Wright during one of his philandering episodes.

Does Obama hit back with these facts? No. That's kind of politician I might be able trust after Nixon-Reagan-Bush I-Clinton I-Bush II.

End dynastic demagoguery!

Posted by: David | April 26, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

On October 2, 2002, Barack Obama's judgment told him that starting a war in Iraq would be a big mistake and he forcefully said so. Much to the contrary later that same month both Senators Hillary Clinton and John McCain voted for funds authorizing President Bush to begin the Iraq war.
When Barack Obama decided to run for president, unlike Hillary Clinton and John McCain, he made the significant decision that he would not accept campaign contributions from lobbyists and political action committees. It was Barack Obama's judgment that if he was going to become the next President of the United States that he be elected by the American people without the distorting influence of the money peddlers in Washington.
That's the kind of change that Barack Obama represents which concerns so many in Washington who don't seem eager for the American people to reclaim their democracy from the influence of special interests, political action committees, and lobbyists, the Washington money peddlers who currently arrange to provide huge amounts of financial support to political candidates whom they believe have a good chance of winning, and whom they can then "work with" later on.
This election is not about whether you happen to be a woman or a man, or whether your father was a black man or a white man, an Asian or a Hispanic. It is not about some radical remarks made by Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. or anyone else. This election is about the future of our country and is about whether the majority of Americans are ready to elect as their next president an individual with integrity, intelligence, and fresh ideas, a 47 year old biracial man who is much less interested in political games than he is in seriously addressing the significant problems facing our country and the rest of the world.
We are at a historic moment in America. Barack Obama is a very special individual who as president will bring a much needed breath of fresh air to Washington and help ordinary Americans begin reclaiming their democracy.

Posted by: William | April 26, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe the condescending tone of Obama. Who is he to judge that we don't need any more debates? However he wants to portrait the questions as "trivial", the ABC debate in PA asked exactly what I would Obama to answer for, and he came up short - WAY short, in fact.

Time and again, he's unable to show us what he HAS done. I don't need stump speeches. Talk is cheap. If he can't even hold debates in primaries, what does that tell me about this candidate in a general election. Obama is SOOOOOO fake.

Posted by: tiddle | April 26, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Well put Mr.Analyst i see u pulled out your stats, but remember nothing can get done because your President can't get anyone together to get something done. Congress is stagnet. Bush Veto's every thing that the Dem's try to get thru and vis versa, which is why I don't understand why people don't get it, why Obama's message is not sinking in, he put's it real simple. Sorry 30 states have gotten so far at least, hopefully the message is resonating with the remainding states, as long as they can't get past the distractions they will see who best represents real Change.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Clinton's Carolina Challenge: Why Won't Obama Debate Me?
http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/04/25/clintons-carolina-challenge-why-wont-obama-debate-me/

The reason is the race is now between McCain and Obama . Its Over , lets move on , the best of the 2 Candidates are ready to give America a Honest and Trustworthy Debate over the War , the Need for Economic Challenges , what should be defined by the difference strategies of these two parties candidates , clearly as the choices on issues have been laid out to us to make our choices from .
The Challenges by the Clinton team are not Consistent , have not been consistent to rise up in any other choices other than from Negative Campaigning , against her own parties candidate , which is proof that the case has been made that the Issues America Needs to be Talking about are being missed , and delayed , which is not a fair debate for the American People and their needs . The Primary is Over , American Needs to Zero In On the Issues , like 1000 soldiers coming home from the war that are trying to commit Suicide every month , we must focus on these issues , Economy , Gas , the Two defined Candidates Obama and McCain represent clearly the Different Parties governing aspects of why we are or are not going in the right Direction in America , and to have this 3 rid wheel in the middle of this Debate , and given the fact that this Baggage will bog down the process if it becomes the main topic , will again leave America Last in Line , the victims of a Debate that will rage on and on , about the Conflicts of Interest that a Clinton Presidency will represent , I mean look at all this stuff , American needs Solutions Not Conflicts that hurdle us towards more and more conflicts at home and abroad , doing nothing for the needs of the American people , but only satisfying the desires of the Multi-Nationals that were a product of the Clinton machine that the Clintons still feed off of today with the unfair Trade and Distribution of Trade Policies that favored the Rise and establishment of the Big Business Era , that has been carried on by the Bush Administration , in Unfair Manner , like it was originally presented in the Clinton Trade Policies with Forgot about Americas needs , made us and or economy into a Consumer nation Economy only , that only benefitted the Big Business that Import tariff Free and depleted our SS and Medicare systems because of the Loss in wage deduction that these Imports if made in America would have paid towards the SS and Medicare systems . This is a Debate that legitimately only Barack Obama can have , and is why he leads the Election Legitimately !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am a Obamican , I lost my hope in the Repubs after they let the Economy fall flat on its butt , not having a Backup plan for the Credit driven rebound in 2003 they stirred up , that only gave the cash flows from this Credit Boom to the Multi-National Corporations that Import Tariff Free Undermining our ability to compete on a Intellectual level because of Chinas Currency Manipulation . So here is what I think we should do ; CLICK The Video Link below ; Hillary is wrong as well as her cabinet , this is why Obama can Beat the republicans and Hillary cannot , because the Republicans will use this against her and the dems , Obama can use this against the Republicans , to rally support , the Clintons cannot . http://www.bercasio.com/movies/dems-wmd-before-iraq.wmv
Barack Obama was right with his analogy ,
They all were wrong , so why should they, " The Clintons " , have another shot at the Highest Office in the Land ??

Posted by: AJ Mesa , AZ | April 26, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Lou liked Obama initially but Obama mis interperted his stand on Immigration a couple of times in his stump speeches. When i first saw Obama do that I knew Lou was going to be crying the same night. I said to myself the Obama camp might want to send an email to Lou apologizing about the misinterpretation, but they didn't.

Every since then Lou has a personal vendetta against Obama, i literally heard him say this as a guest on a national radion show, so if your a fan of Obama don't be surprised by his obvious ill bias towards him.

Everyone is so touchy these days, that's why Obama just brushes it off his shoulders'...ahhh..lol

Finally someone who talks to us like adults and some of America can't take it, grow up.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

In just one year Remember the election in 2006?

Thought you might like to read the following. A little over one year ago:

1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.

Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:

1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.

America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!

Remember it's Congress that makes law not the President. He has to work with what's handed to him.

Quote of the Day........"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it." -- Barack Obama

Taxes...Whether Democrat or a Republican you will find these statistics enlightening and amazing.
www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/151.html


Taxes under Clinton 1999 Taxes under Bush 2008
Single making 30K - tax $8,400 Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $14,000 Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $23,250 Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K - tax $16,800 Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $21,000 Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $38,750 Married making 125K - tax $31,250

Both democratic candidates will return to the higher tax rates.

It is amazing how many people that fall into the categories above think Bush is screwing them and Bill Clinton was the greatest President ever. If Obama or Hillary are elected, they both say they will repeal the Bush tax cuts and a good portion of the people that fall into the categories above can't wait for it to happen. This is like the movie The Sting with Paul Newman; you scam somebody out of some money and they don't even know what happened.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

There is no doubt that Barack Obama is an eloquent speaker. But when I ask people what he has done in his first & only term as an US Senator, no one can give me a response except for "Well, he got elected to the Senate!" Big deal. So did ninety-nine other people. What else? Nothing but silence... We live in a society where we are judged by our track record. Barack Obama does not have one. I really do not believe that qualifies him to be President of the United States if all he can do is speak well in vague terms & charging people up emotionally.

Hillary Clinton says she has thirty-five years of experience. Okay, experience doing what? She has never owned a business, much less a lemonade stand. Now we hear about how her campaign is in debt! If she cannot manage her finances now, we should be gravely concerned about her idea of a budget if we are so concerned about our economy. Get ready for higher taxes because it is the only way for her to pay for her socialistic idea of how government should be for the entitlement-minded morons who want to get on the welfare bandwagon and be forever dependent on that program.

And what can I say about John McCain? I respect & honor the fact that he served in our nation's military (something that Obama & Clinton have not done) but he is so much of a fence-rider, if he rode it any harder, you would see the top of the fence post every time he smiled.

I do not like any of my choices, and once again it appears we must choose the lesser of evils...

Posted by: Silent Majority | April 26, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

i can't stand Hanity I would so love to see the hells angels duct tape his mouth

Posted by: gag Hanity | April 26, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

YAA Obama blew that one.. the bitter people are in the cities with housing costs going up but values going down

who have gone to worst lower paying jobs with no pensions any more and the cost of food skyrocketing apartments cost #1,200 for a studio, college debt of $100,000 collection companies calling

yaa bitter is in the SUBURBS not the country Obama you blew that one

Go OBAMA 298 dlegates to Victory

Posted by: its true | April 26, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Lou Dobbs is a pompous moron, probably more dangerous than Sean Hannity, an overpaid moron

Posted by: Jim Jones | April 26, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

LOU DOBBD IS MOST OPIONATED IDIOT ON THE AIR AT 6pm central on CNN but then OREILY is even worst at 7 pm central lol

and now i find out they are neconservatives due Jewish Jitters over OBAMA oh my

Posted by: boycott LOU DOBBS | April 26, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Lanny Davis is a snake, he's just like the Clinton's they do not care if they tear the house down.

Not much more to say about that, it is evident. This is definetly not democracy coming from the democratic party.

Posted by: NA> | April 26, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

An old bigot speaks.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

The only person who "DEMONIZED OBAMA" was Obama himself making demeaning remarks about our hard working blue collar workers in small towns, being bitter and taking their anger out with guns, etc.


Must have been the highlight of the day for his ever loving PASTOR and his loud mouthed wife, with two loaves of bread under each arm.

Never in my 81 years have I seen or heard an enemy of the people in America run for President. GWB and his gang is outrageous enough. They are criminals and they have literally destroyed and killed our youth, made orphans because of their blood thirsty hunger for Oil. The damage and rapeing of this country will take generations to bring this country back to normalcy. AND NOW, WE ARE CONFRONTED WITH A MAN WHO SPITS WORDS LIKE SO MUCH RUNNING CONTAMINATED WATER.
HE (OBAMA) IS AN ANTI AMERICAN WANTING TO LEAD US ALL TO ISLAM! The boat is waiting for Obama and his wife to take him back to the land he loves Islam! Go and we can then get on with trying to repair damages done by the Nazi clan we have now.

Posted by: lynn parker | April 26, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Rahm Emanuel we want you we love you
please come home to OBAMA

the best congressman ever is

RAHM EMANUEL

we promise you everthing Bill did and the kitchen sink

Posted by: we love Rohm Emauel IL congresseman | April 26, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

To we stand together:

I used to feel the same way but George Bush ended that. I got a chance to see the power the president has, he has ruined the whole country and had an effect on the whole world. Now imagine that kind of power used to a good purpose. All it takes is the right person. We may be surprised what can be done.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

I hope all of you wake up one day and realize your arugments mean nothing. The dog and pony show will go on, life will continue and you'll still be fed the same rhetoric you've been fed since you were old enough to spell the word politics. This election is a joke. To the poster who said united we stand , devided we fall....I feel like this have never been more true. Is it possible we can once again stand up and unite for common purpose. All we know is what were fed through media, its a game but we can all agree on one thing. Were American's , we love our country and there is no where else we would rather be. If u must I suggest looking not to proposed hypothetical timelines and promised policies that we usually get everytime elections come up, but rather that your candidate in your mind is as loyal to his town, his county, his state, and most importantly his country's people who require more then words and a true postive purpose and not just to themselves alone.

Posted by: We stand together | April 26, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

qyote
"None of the three remaining candidates has much executive experience, and so their respective campaigns provide the best evidence of how well they can manage a large organization. Hands down, Obama wins that contest. His campaign has been the best organized by far, raising the most money, getting the most volunteers, being the best prepared out in the field. When mistakes have occurred, his campaign corrected them quicker than Clinton's.

And while it's fair to ask why he can't "close the deal", that question applies even more so to Clinton, who really has no excuse for having lost Iowa in the first place.

Posted by: | April 26, 2008 7:36 PM" End quote

She talks about day one, she wasn't even ready on day one of her campaign. Much less run the country and she had years to prepare. She and her husband are so over rated it is a joke.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Toxic Avenger posted the most intelligent post I have seen in quite awhile... GJ :)

Posted by: BLue | April 26, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

IF YOU ARE NOT BITTER when the gasoline price is close to $4/gallon, when you cannot hold to a home --whatever the size is--, when you do not know how you'll be able to feed your children, when you dread to get sick or disclose that you are sick because of the (lack of) health insurance, when most of your tax dollars (from the job that you cling on to) go to Iraq --where people hate Americans and use US money instead of their own --, when your friends are going to Iraq/Afghanistan to get maimed or killed....., even with an entrusted GOD to support you,...WHO WOULD NOT THINK THAT SOME AMERICANS LIKE ME ARE WORKING CLASS PEOPLE, "BITTER", STUPID, PEASANTS, Cash COWS!, and CANNON FODDER. :-( ?

WE NEED GOOD JUDGMENT, AWAY FROM PEOPLE (like THE CLINTONS) WHO HAVE BEEN SUPPORTED BY LOBBIES, WHO HAVE REPEATEDLY LIED, WHO CANNOT EVEN RUN A CAMPAIGN (HILLARY)!

WE NEED/WANT OBAMA!!!


Posted by: JACKIESMITH ... Working class white woman:)!!! | April 26, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Obama has more actual political experience than your candidate.

You know real experience like going out on the streets and organizing and reaching out to ordinary folks and inspiring them and showing them how to make real change in their community, yea that's the truth that's what really happened.

Sadly what is getting lost in all of this frenzy is the real reason why Iowa propelled Senator Obama into the national spotlight, I believe Iowa got it right from day one because he went out and showed he really cared for them like he did in all the other so called "small state"...the irony in all of this is the notion held by the Clinton camp that the "small states" dont matter and only the big one's do is more Elitist than anything that has been said in this whole campaign season.

She doesn't only have the Afro American vote to worry about but the small states too, they'll come out in drove's just to vote against her.

Posted by: GA. | April 26, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Heard of Mugabe's argument? Looks like when some politicians get old (too experienced??), they really don't have sound judgment. They tend to have it at all cost. Even if they have to doge sniper bullets or make sure their name is the only one on the ballot or come up with a creative way of counting votes. How can you trust H&B???
Go OBAMA!

Posted by: Goggat | April 26, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

None of the three remaining candidates has much executive experience, and so their respective campaigns provide the best evidence of how well they can manage a large organization. Hands down, Obama wins that contest. His campaign has been the best organized by far, raising the most money, getting the most volunteers, being the best prepared out in the field. When mistakes have occurred, his campaign corrected them quicker than Clinton's.

And while it's fair to ask why he can't "close the deal", that question applies even more so to Clinton, who really has no excuse for having lost Iowa in the first place.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps the JackSmiths of the world need another 8 years of Republican rule so that Ralph Nader's projections of misery will finally come true. Things are starting to look seriously ugly and those who dismiss the possibility of another economic depression are the real idiots indeed.

Unfortunately, none of the candidates have outlined a credible plan for dealing with the economic mess now unfolding upon us. If Obama cannot stop his foolish game of playing Mr. Nice Guy and alternatively come up with a plan that is credible and understandable I will not vote this November. On second thought, perhaps Mr. Nader may get my vote.

Posted by: LH | April 26, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA IS OUT OF EXPERIENCE, FOR THAT REASON HE'S OUT OF TOUCH...
A VOTE FOR OBAMA,.. IS A VOTE FOR SOCIALISM..

Posted by: ARA. TAMPA, FL | April 26, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

The race is over. Why is Clinton carrying on like she can still win it ? And why is the media enabling her fantasy ?
Posted by: vbalfour

Because she needs to keep takin American's money to payoff her campaign debt, that is my logical answer.

Now for my answer that i hope is not true is that she is not trying destroy her opponent and have him limping into the Convention, i'm just sayin' it's been done before.

sigh..so sad it has come to this.

Posted by: GA. | April 26, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Oh God not more of the endless WAPO Obama
Spin again! Hey Fred Hiatt enough of your
phony Obama Spin and Idiotic "Obama Bowls"
and "Obama Shoots Hoops" Crap and we could
care less about and get with discussing
the real issues here in WAPO or your going
to keep bleeding lost readers like a stuck
pig. Besides no matter how much lipstick
you keep putting on this pig, Obama is still only a pig. No to Obama in 2008!

Posted by: Sherry Kay | April 26, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

The race is over. Why is Clinton carrying on like she can still win it ? And why is the media enabling her fantasy ?

Posted by: vbalfour | April 26, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Neoconservatives believe in the ability of the United States to install democracy after a conflict, citing the denazification of Germany and installation of democratic government in Japan after World War II. This idea guided U.S. policy in Iraq after the removal of the Saddam Hussein regime, when the U.S. organized elections as soon as practical.[citation needed] Neoconservatives also ascribe to principal of defending democracies against aggression. see Hillary in last Debate

Posted by: neocons | April 26, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Hillary voted for the War!

Everything that is happening right now especially with the economy is due to the War!

The reason why most of the World dislikes America is because of the War!

NAFTA has taken many jobs and shipped them over sea's, Hillary supported NAFTA!

Bosnia sniper fire never happened yet she lied more than three times on the stump about what really took place, Dishonest! quite frankly a liar.

She has taken more lobbyist money than any candidate running in this campaign season, i mean everyone. Who's interest do you really think she's going to have? Who will still be setting agenda? Not her and not you either.

Wake up people, this is the past against the future not black and white, not gender, not culture not red and blue states
it's about accountability and responsibility, it's time for America to step up as a United Nation again, a coaliton otherwise nothing will get done, nothing will Change, this no one can deny.

United we win, devided we fall.

Posted by: Ga. | April 26, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

to jacksmith...

She has a fairly long track record of lying for political gain. She will say or do just about anything to get this nomination. The GOP wants this bickering and implied racial tension. Hillary is the weakest opponent vs. McCain - imagine the ads....

A report this released this week stated that 70 of Hillary's top donors wrote their first checks to Obama in March, a top 'Hill raiser' just joined with Obama, 50 of John Edwards top backers publicly endorsed Obama
on Wednesday. Also consider the statement of condemnation from Rep. Clayburn regarding her campaign conduct and the perception amongst - not just blacks but most Dems - of her trying to fix the game in some backroom deal -

The super del's will not hand her the election. She is operating on the George W Bush playbook where you can move the goal posts if you have any chance to do so.


Obama 2008

Posted by: Josh in Seattle | April 26, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

What happened to the talks and actions? Nobody cares about real issues anymore? I guess it is 7th inning stretch time. Only two more innings remaining (Indiana and North carolina?).

Is Hillary "sniper-fire" Clinton no longer interested in words or actions anymore?

Is it because because when she speaks she actually misspeaks, aka lies? And she no longer interested in actions because while she professed against Free Trade, her campaign chief actually lobbied to get Columbian Free Trade Agreement passed in US government?

Baseball.... that reminds me of the current incompetant president. With her "annihilate Iran" talk and now baseball interest, may be Hillary is trying to tell us that she is another Bush in disguise. She openly said she will take money from lobbyists. You connect the dots.

Posted by: Dave | April 26, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Jacksmith, Working? He who is working doesn't have that much time. Oh! Do you mean working for Hillary?
GO OBAMA!!!

Posted by: Jack | April 26, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Some mainstream reporter with guts should get to the bottom of this. There is even a smoking gun tape. Am I missing something?


Case Number: BC304174
PETER F PAUL VS WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON
Filing Date: 10/14/2003
Case Type: Fraud (no contract) (General Jurisdiction)
Status: Pending

Future Hearings
05/13/2008 at 08:37 am in department 47 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
OSC RE: CONTEMPT

08/08/2008 at 08:31 am in department 47 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Further Status Conference

Documents Filed | Proceeding Information
Parties

CLINTON HILLARY RODHAM - Defendant/Respondent

CLINTON WILLIAM JEFFERSON - Defendant/Respondent

D. COLETTE WILSON ATTORNEY AT LAW - Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

DOYEN MICHAEL R. - Attorney for Defendant/Respondent

HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON FOR U.S. SENATE - Defendant/Respondent

KREEP GARY G. - Former Attorney for Pltf/Petn

LEVIN JAMES - Defendant/Respondent

MACHTINGER LEONARD A. - Attorney for Defendant/Respondent

NORMAN JAN B. - Associated Counsel

NORRIS STERLING E. ESQ. - Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

PAUL PETER F. - Plaintiff/Petitioner

ROSEN DAVID - Defendant/Respondent

SMITH GARY - Defendant/Respondent

TONKEN AARON - Defendant/Respondent

WILLAMS & CONNOLLY - Attorney for Defendant/Respondent

Posted by: Timothy Crocker | April 26, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Why are those who support the clintons are verbatim? To hide facts

Posted by: Goggat | April 26, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

This campaign shows the world who we are.

Posted by: Capsheaf | April 26, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

GO OBAMA !!!


Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

DEBATE! DEBATE!! DEBATE!!!

It's time for everyone to face the truth. Barack Obama has no real chance of winning the national election in November at this time. His crushing defeat in Pennsylvania makes that fact crystal clear. His best, and only real chance of winning in November is on a ticket with Hillary Clinton as her VP.

Hillary Clinton seemed almost somber at her victory speech. As if part of her was hoping Obama could have defeated her. And proved he had some chance of winning against the republican attack machine, and their unlimited money, and resources. In all honesty. I felt some of that too.

But it is absolutely essential that the democrats take back the Whitehouse in November. America, and the American people are in a very desperate condition now. And the whole World has been doing all that they can to help keep us propped up.

Hillary Clinton say's that the heat, and decisions in the Whitehouse are much tougher than the ones on the campaign trail. But I think Mr. Obama faces a test of whether he has what it takes to be a commander and chief by facing the difficult facts, and the truth before him. And by doing what is best for the American people by dropping out of the race, and offering his whole hearted assistance to Hillary Clinton to help her take back the Whitehouse for the American people, and the World.

Mr. Obama is a great speaker. And I am confident he can explain to the American people the need, and wisdom of such a personal sacrifice for them. It should be clear to everyone by now that Hillary Clinton is fighting her heart out for the American people. She has known for a long time that Mr. Obama can not win this November. You have to remember that the Clinton's have won the Whitehouse twice before. They know what it takes.

If Mr. Obama fails his test of commander and chief we can only hope that Hillary Clinton can continue her heroic fight for the American people. And that she prevails. She will need all the continual support and help we can give her. She may fight like a superhuman. But she is only human.

Sen. Hillary Clinton: "You know, more people have now voted for me than have voted for my opponent. In fact, I now have more votes than anybody has ever had in a primary contest for a nomination. And it's also clear that we've got nine more important contests to go."

Sincerely

Jacksmith... Working Class :-)

Posted by: jacksmith | April 26, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

MY FELLOW "BITTER", STUPID, WORKING CLASS PEOPLE :-)

If you think like Barack Obama, that WORKING CLASS PEOPLE are just a bunch of "BITTER"!, STUPID, PEASANTS, Cash COWS!, and CANNON FODDER. :-(

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary's than they had ever been before or since.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton. :-)

Best regards

jacksmith... Working Class :-)

p.s. You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you don't know that the huge amounts of money funding the Obama campaign to try and defeat Hillary Clinton is coming in from the insurance, and medical industry, that has been ripping you off, and killing you and your children. And denying you, and your loved ones the life saving medical care you needed. All just so they can make more huge immoral profits for them-selves off of your suffering...

You see, back in 1993 Hillary Clinton had the audacity, and nerve to try and get quality, affordable universal health care for everyone to prevent the suffering and needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of you each year. :-)

Approx. 100,000 of you die each year from medical accidents from a rush to profit by the insurance, and medical industry. Another 120,000 of you die each year from treatable illness that people in other developed countries don't die from. And I could go on, and on...

OBAMA AIDE: "WORKING-CLASS VOTERS NOT KEY FOR DEMOCRATS" :o

DEBATE! DEBATE!! DEBATE!!!...

Posted by: jacksmith | April 26, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

I love seeing Obama playing basketball, trying to be black, but looking more like Vanilla Ice. My-O-my, how the democRATS standards have fallen.

Posted by: Toxic Avenger | April 26, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse


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Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

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Hillary voted for the war

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Hillary keeps saying that Obama is just a good speaker. Well...isn't that a good thing? They are both out trying to get votes and talk to people, they have for months now. Both Hillary and Obama are talk talk talk, what sets them apart in my mind is deportment. Hillary's campaign literally had to throw conspiracies out into the media to stop Obama's momentum. It worked I guess...but it isn't very classy.......I'd take Obama over Hillary........

Posted by: ApostasyUSA | April 26, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Obama supports Bushes NCLB and until he distances himself from the NCLB I can't support him in the primary or in the general.

Posted by: hhkeller | April 26, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

The Bush taxs benefit people making ove $50,000 a year. With the economy in dire mess, this is not the time to be taking the tax cuts away from the middle class (even if they help the wealthy). Obama also refuses to suspend the gas tax this summer. The guy loves taxes. Make no doubt about it...If he is president, our taxes will go up.

Posted by: Badger | April 26, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

He's preparing for the General and hoping that he can get some of the 50% of Hillary supporters to vote for him that said they would not if he is the nominee. Unless something drastic happens between now and November, I can say, I won't be voting for him. With the electorial college, it doesn't take too many people to change a state from Blue to Red. The dem's should be very worried.

Posted by: Badger | April 26, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Indiana Republicans voters cross party lines to cast their ballot.

Who will Republican voters in Indiana cross party lines to cast their ballot for?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=2288


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Posted by: Frank, Austin TX | April 26, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

He should bring it home by looking at the changes since he started his campaign in oil +$30/barrel, gas +.80/gallon, food(have you seen the proce of a gallon of milk) and real estate!!! He needs bring some immediacy back the real problems that are getting lost in all the character assassination and closet racism. Who cares about Rev. Wright if you are on the verge of losing your home or job or both. WE are all in the same boat and its sinking. The campaign act as if they exist in another world from we the people.

Posted by: nclwtk | April 26, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

The last word in NAFTA is "Agreement", not "Association".

It might also be helpful to note that Obama supports Bush's SPP.gov, aka "NAFTA on steroids":

http://lonewacko.com/blog/archives/007494.html

Oddly enough, when coming out for that Bush scheme he spoke in code.

Also oddly enough, Obama and I are the only two people willing to discuss his support for that plan.

Posted by: LonewackoDotCom | April 26, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Get unified.

Political music is back:

http://xpatriate-greetingsfromlafayettepark.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Cara Prado | April 26, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

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