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Senator Barack Obama (D-Ill.) shakes supporters' hands with former Democratic challenger John Edwards at a rally with supporters in the Van Andel Arena in Grand Rapids, Michigan May 14, 2008. (Reuters)

By Shailagh Murray
Former Democratic candidate John Edwards has joined the Barack Obama bandwagon, but will his small band of delegates and superdelegates follow his lead?

At least six of the eight pledged delegates that Edwards won in South Carolina are expected to jump to the Illinois senator, according to CNN. And at least one of Edwards's four pledged delegates in New Hampshire has re-committed to the likely nominee. Edwards's four pledged delegates from the Iowa caucuses remain up for grabs.

One of those Iowa delegates, Machelle Crum of Newton, told the Quad City Times last night she had already been contacted by Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign, although the law student said she was studying for an exam and couldn't focus on politics for the time being. "I'm going to get through the test and think about it after that," Crum told the paper.

When Edwards dropped out on Jan. 30, he had endorsements from 28 superdelegates, including Reps. Bob Etheridge (NC), Mike McIntyre (NC), Brad Miller (NC), Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (SD), Charlie Gonzalez (TX), Eddie Bernice Johnson (TX), Jim Oberstar (MN), David Obey (WI), David Price (NC), Heath Shuler (NC), Bart Stupak (MI), Mel Watt (NC), Michael Michaud (ME), and Bruce Braley (IA). The other 14 were Democratic National Committee members who had pledged as superdelegates to Edwards.

As of this afternoon, nine of the House members backing Edwards had switched allegiance to Obama: Reps. Miller, Herseth Sandlin, Gonzalez, Johnson, Oberstar, Obey, Price, Watt and Braley. Four of the pro-Edwards lawmakers -- Reps. Ethridge, McIntyre, Stupak and Michaud -- remain uncommitted. Shuler has not officially endorsed Clinton, but said he would vote for her as a superdelegate at the convention, because she had won his western North Carolina district.

Seven of Edwards' DNC superdelegates have shifted to Obama; two have switched to Clinton. Five remain uncommitted. So that leaves a total of 18 Edwards convention votes for both campaigns to phonebank until they break.

Posted at 5:19 PM ET on May 15, 2008
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Edwards for VP? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
A smart move for Obama, IMO, would be to choose a woman for VP--but NOT Hellary. No. No way. I suggest Kathleen Sebelius, Governor of Kansas. She has the respect of the State, a Republican state, and that says a lot.

Posted by: Kasha | May 20, 2008 11:14 AM

Some of the postings here seem to be written by people who think they are offering persuasive arguments while they are in fact just simply outrageous. Blind partisanship is not the means to persuade independent voters. Salacious over-the-top claims and rumor mongering, if they had any merit, would be reported by Fox, CNN, the Washington Post or Washington Times to name a few.

Freedom of speech - the right of all idiots to warn us of their presence.

Posted by: Rod | May 18, 2008 6:56 PM

Why are so many Americans ignorant of the fact that in order for America to be successful in the world you need to be admired. If you are admired you are respected and you reach by far more than when you are hated by all Arab countries and many European allies. Obama is not only admired in Africa, Asia(indonesia) and the Arab world but also in most European countries. He isnpires the world and if he becomes president he will be recognised as one of the greatest leaders in history.

Posted by: Obama man | May 18, 2008 8:46 AM

I don't know where you have been getting your information about former Edwards suporters leaning towards Obama.I was for Edwards in the beginning of this process,so were most of my family,friends & co-workers.But now we are all for Hillary all the way!!!Edwards endorsement did not do anything to change my mind,because Edwards is no longer a candidate.He dropped out the day after the millions of people voted in Florida on Jan.29th.So obviously that race mattered to Edwards.I am voting for Hillary on Tuesday when KY holds our long awaited primary for several reasons.1.She has been all over this state,talking to voters,and telling us where she stands on the issues.
2.Obama completely skipped both West Virginia and Kentucky,and his supporters called W.virginia and Ky"armpits of the U.S.A."3.If we are not states,then why do we have more men and women in uniform fighting to protect this country than any other state in America. 4.Hillary stands for the same positions Edwards stood for-
Universal Healthcare,Ending Poverty,The Fight for the MIddle Class,Fighting for Veteran's rights and Better Healthcare for our Veteran's,Improving Education,and Raising Minimum Wage.There may be some Edwards supporters in Oregon who have decided to go with Obama,but here in KY she will deliver another blowout on Tuesday just like she did last week when she won by 41 points in W.Virginia.Keep on fighting Hillary,we democrats here in the mountains know you are our only hope,and you have 17 million of us who are behind you all the way to denver.Because no matter what the media says"WE WONT BACK DOWN!" KENTUCKY FOR HILLARY IN 2008!!

Posted by: once an edwards man now a hillfan | May 18, 2008 7:32 AM

It would be funny if it was not so serious.
Hilary supporters whining about negative bloggers comments. I have now been reading comments for about 2 months and must say that the vitriol comes more from Clinton supporters than from the Obamafans.

Whoever is a democrat and doesn't vote democrat in November, whoever is the candidate has apparently not understood the value of the right to vote. Millions of people all over the world do not have that right and you vote out of spite! shame on you.

And for those who still go on about Fla and Mi..In Fla many voters turned up on SuperTuesday in Fla because they did not even know the primary had already been held.

Posted by: Tilleke | May 18, 2008 6:16 AM

Obama and Rev. Wright know who killed the choir director from their church and why. Rev. Wright and Obama staged their confrontation to take the limelight off of that issue and the REZKO trial. America has been fooled by that soap opera. Obama and Wright FOOLED YOU and made you look like IDIOTS. Obama had homesexual relations with a man who is willing to talk about but the media is too chicken @#@$# touch it for fear of being called racist. There is nothing racist about covering the truth and bringing truth into the open

Posted by: Ebonyflash | May 18, 2008 2:53 AM

White women are freaking over Obama. The "Mandingo Syndrome" has begun. Look, America needs a strong man... not a gay playboy to lead this country. This election isn't about "desparate housewives" nor is it about "sex in the city". So get your heads out of your crocthes and on the the issues.

Posted by: Ebonyflash | May 18, 2008 2:11 AM

We are a group of 50 and over women, of all races and color, but mostly white, liberal and conservative, all of us Christian, and we are all supporting Obama. When the race started we had a high opinion of Hilary but as time passed we have become disenchanted by her tactics and her character. She will say and do anything to get elected. Obama is a good Christian man, and this whole notion that he does not understand blue collar workers is ridiculous! That notion was fanned by the Republicans and the Clinton camp. He grew up in a single parent home, and his mom had to use food stamps for a while. His wife grew up in a blue collar home too. So to characterize his as an elitist is so silly. We are glad that Edwards came out to endorse him.

Posted by: Ann et al | May 18, 2008 1:05 AM

I am so disappointed in Edwards for his endorsement. I wonder what he will say when his daughter asks, "But, daddy, why hasn't a woman become president?"

Posted by: Monique from NC | May 16, 2008 2:12 PM

He will say we will elect a woman who is not a shirt tail candidate who is not running on the experience of another, who is honorable and recognizes truth from deceit and doesn't lie on tape and then deny it, is a good manager, and shows leadership skills, maybe someone like mom.

Posted by: james | May 17, 2008 12:12 PM

For you republicans posting anti-Obama--OK at least you're being straight forward with your predictable and transparent proclamations. But for you "Hillary supporters" that are besting the most viscious republican Obama attacks--how stupid do you really think we democrats are? Do you really think that we can't recognize Rush Limbaugh in a yellow pants suit? Puleeeeease! These hateful posters are not democrats or Hillary supporters--they are an INSULT to the dignity and inteligence of Hillary supporters! These are clearly Ditto Heads trying to tear us apart.

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Posted by: r4bdh0xz86 | May 17, 2008 6:51 AM

I am a retired professional. I take great pride in being an American. Yes, more young people are getting better and better educations. When I finished my post graduate work in college, I felt I had a powerhouse of knowledge to carry me through life. That was young and immature thinking. College offered me the opportunity to learn our history, our current situation, a fanciful look into the future, and skills needed for professional employment. After my post graduate studies were completed, I walked out of college feeling I'd learned everything to get me through life. Not so. I aged and matured and understood more and more of America's complexities, tasted it's tragedies, and became a better and better judge of human nature, including the darkness of some. 9/11 was a horrible lesson (although not the first) to all Americans. Just like Wright shouted in his church, "God damn America", the terrorists that guided those airplanes into the twin towers were giving us the same message~~~God damn America. They kept their promise of killing us from within. To hell with gender; to hell with race~~~those things do NOT matter when choosing a president. I have to wonder why any American would even consider Obama for president? He's has been active in a church for 20 years that has preached vicious hate for Americans so apparently he agrees with that mindset; a person whose experience in politics is nil; is shifty, sneaky, and evasive when questioned? Wake up people. This issue is so important to the future of your country. Take the time to go to on line sites. I was most distressed when I found a picture of a younger Obama holding an American flag while a young boy urinated on it. Read and learn a lot before making any decision about this campaign. There's a wealth of information out there. If you are allowed to vote for an American president, that means you are an American. Oh yes, one other thing. Young people are not stupid, just immature. We were all there at one time.

Posted by: Paddie | May 17, 2008 3:27 AM

Obama and Edwards, huh? One stentorian windbag and one ambulance chancing lawyer seeking to give his hairstyle a higher profile. Way to go dems - that's actually a faily formidable ticket for you pantywaists.

Posted by: Kyle Mcloughlin | May 16, 2008 7:40 PM

Seems like more and more Hillary supporters are finally speaking up to voice their disgust over how the pre picked candidate is a snake oil salesman who has fooled the zealots who blindly follow him. The newest Obama mis gaff over the fight with Bush and McCain just proves how inexperienced he is concerning foreign policy. Of course the media and suer delegates who support him will be spinning this latest gaff into a positive stance on foreign policy. The Democrats have not learned the lesson yet of the last election, you nominate an elitist with no experience and you will loose again, How do you define another Democratic loss, McGovern, Dukakkis, Kerry, and Obama. Hillary 08!

Posted by: jeiken@comcast.net | May 16, 2008 7:12 PM

Why do women seem to think that this election is all about making a woman President? That is just about the stupidest notion I've heard this year.

She lost fair and square. Get over it.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 16, 2008 7:08 PM

the Democratic Party leaders thought they could toss women and Hillary Clinton aside with bias and get away with it? Big mistake!

I'm trying to figure out who will be left to vote for the 'Chosen One' Obama. It won't be that many women and yes even some black women have seen the Hillary bashing. Nor will it be Hispanics, or Jews, Catholics, or independents since they tend to be towards the center and Obama is far far left. It won't be your average white voter who saw the Rev. Wight stuff and knows Obama is anti-American black elitist that is soft on national security. Sure they can slam Hillary around while giving Obama a free ticket to the nomination but did they think we wouldn't notice?

i don't think they understand how hated Obama is now that he has been so favored by the media that has found racism to be untouchable but has no problem slamming Hillary with sexist insults. To make matters worse we see a loyal experienced qualified long term Democrat with the best plans and proposals get trampled by the Party for a neophyte unable to hold his own in a debate against Clinton and that has no chance of winning the general election.

big bad mistake to think only of race and not of gender...perfect circumstances for a possible third party revolution led by women. just our way of saying f you for f'ing over the first ever women Presidential candidate.

Posted by: figureitout | May 16, 2008 6:29 PM

I love how Obama supporters play the race card - i.e. if you don't support Obama then you're defacto a racist like millions of voters in West Virginia supposedly are.

Ever think that millions of us are simply voting against him because of his total lack of experience? Compare his credentials with those of Clinton or Biden or Richardson and any intelligent person would have to come to the conclusion that his qualifications for the most important job in the world are essentially non-existent.

Posted by: Tristan | May 16, 2008 6:05 PM

The whole situation with her is sad.

She does have value within the Democratic Party...; but she put herself so far out there to be scrutinized and subjected to the level of criticism that has the potential to break anyone of lesser character.

I do respect that about her. But I do not see her as the savior of our circumstances here in America...

She displayed too many selfish and self serving traits. President Bush has demonstrated how dangerous those attributes can be.

I hope that when it is all said and done she will find what she needs to move on; Sincerely.

****NAME THEM:

WHAT ARE HER SELFISH AND SELF SERVING TRAITS?

IS IT HER ENORMOUS VOTING RECORD FOR HELPING THE POOR AND UNFORTUNATE? FOR HELPING BLACKS WITH AFFIRMATIVE ACTION? FOR RAISIND THE MINIMUM WAGE, FOR BEING THE FIRST POLITICAL FIGURE EVER TO ATTEMPT TO INSTALL NATIONAL HEALTHCARE FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU?

it's amazing how someone can do everything right and still be hated because members of the voting public have psychological baggage about the female gender.

ah well...doesn't matter. Soon you will be hating President Hillary Clinton because she wore a color of lipstick you didn't like.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 16, 2008 5:59 PM

there seems to be a lot of sour grapes, enought to make vinegar. All these Hiliary lovers will be happy to see another 4 years of George Bush,under a different name.

Posted by: Orm | May 16, 2008 5:21 PM

The whole situation with her is sad.

She does have value within the Democratic Party...; but she put herself so far out there to be scrutinized and subjected to the level of criticism that has the potential to break anyone of lesser character.

I do respect that about her. But I do not see her as the savior of our circumstances here in America...

She displayed too many selfish and self serving traits. President Bush has demonstrated how dangerous those attributes can be.

I hope that when it is all said and done she will find what she needs to move on; Sincerely.

Posted by: puddlescited | May 16, 2008 4:49 PM

The whole situation with her is sad.

She does have value within the Democratic Party...; but she put herself so far out there to be scrutinized and subjected to the level of criticism that has the potential to break anyone of lesser character.

I do respect that about her. But I do not see her as the savior of our circumstances here in America...

She displayed too many selfish and self serving traits. President Bush has demonstrated how dangerous those attributes can be.

Posted by: puddlescited | May 16, 2008 4:40 PM

Posted by: pubichaironmycokecan | May 16, 2008 3:26 PM

Someone needs to talk to the Republican Party, the Karl Roves, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh. They all get their lessons from George W. Bush, a Fearmonger extraordinaire. These individuals are dangerous to our Democracy. They are race-baiters causing fear and emotion and their target are the underclass and poverty stricken. Bill Clinton taught this to Hillary and she obliged by spreading that negative presentation to the West Virginias. This country can no longer be looked upon as the United States as long as we have Republicans and individuals who are determined to Divide the country as the candidate Hillary Clinton. The 8 years have brought us a depression from all walks of life. We need real leadership and a better view of the world: translation tolerance

Sen. Obama represents a new kind of leadership. During his campaign he has shown over and over again that he can take a punch. The world needs him and all of his supporters await his coronation! It's too bad that the Republican Party would rather feed on "trivialities" and not substance during this campaign. We need honest, clear eyed leadership and not a "smear" campaign. Republicans needs to play a new game and not the same old game that people already know and that's "gutter" politics that Hillary picked up on so well to get votes!

Posted by: change | May 16, 2008 3:24 PM

Women have been messed over for many years by the Democrat Party and it appears that millions of "US" will be returning the favor, should this primary season continue on its current path. Hillary Clinton is clearly the best choice to be our party's nominee for President. As a life-long Democrat, age 55, I think the way my party has hosed Hillary and their most loyal and largest voting block; women intolerable. I am confident the Democrat Party will pay a severe price for this blatant assault on women in November. Cry all you want about this being "sour grapes" but little good will result from your on-going efforts to rally Hillary's staunch supporters around your chosen candidate instead of the people's choice. Now, the Democrat Party leaders want women to get their pre- selected from the start, elite, wimp, Barack Obama elected in November. It will be cold day in hell before I comply and I also hope Hillary walks away from this Party. Most of the women, and many men as well, with whom I have contact are finished with the Democrat Party, now and forever. Also, many of "US" are starting a grassroots movement to insure these kind of sorry tactics employed by my now soon to be former party, never happen again. This clear favoring of Obama, making him the nominee because the party doesn't want a woman, especially a Clinton woman, is more that I can tolerate. Of all the gall, the Democrat Party now expects "US" girls, including Hillary, to turn over our undying support to Obama. Sorry guys, this is not going to happen. Obama has no shot of winning in November without Hillary's help and all of us, her supporters. Not on your life or in your wildest dreams is this going to happen. Democrat Party leaders take heed and you superdelegates had better wait to declare your support until the final results of all the primaries are tallied and the voices of all 50 states and territories are heard from. At that time, the real nominee of the people can be declared for the fall election. Let it be known that the damage has already been done to the largest voting block in America. However, it remains to be seen how deep these "bitterly disappointing and highly blatant attacks" are to women. In my mind, this is a travesty and affects all women of America. I for one will change my registration to Independent, and possibly Republican, on the day I vote for Hillary Rodham Clinton in the KY primary. Bye, bye and good riddance from Mary O'Bryan, Louisville, KY, to my former party, no matter what happens in the primaries left to come. I will write her in if it is counted in my state and IF, she doesn't get the nomination.

Posted by: Mary O'Bryan | May 16, 2008 3:06 PM

GREG LIMES: In all of your babbling you failed to make a valid point. It isnt so much why you shouldnt vote for a candidate but more so of why you should vote for the other. I suggest you rethink your opposition, restrategized and try again, this time without making the same mistake as the Clinton campaign.

Posted by: SmarterThanYou | May 16, 2008 2:35 PM

GREG LIMES: In all of your babbling you failed to make a valid point. It isnt so much why you shouldnt vote for a candidate but more so of why you should vote for the other. I suggest you rethink your opposition, restrategized and try again, this time without making the same mistake as the Clinton campaign.

Posted by: SmarterThanYou | May 16, 2008 2:33 PM

GREG LIMES: In all of your babbling you failed to make a valid point. It isnt so much why you shouldnt vote for a candidate but more so of why you should vote for the other. I suggest you rethink your opposition, restrategized and try again, this time without making the same mistake as the Clinton campaign.

Posted by: SmarterThanYou | May 16, 2008 2:31 PM

WAKE UP DEMOCRATS.....Pls don't be fooled by a rookie car salesman (OBAMA). Why we can not trust this rookie? As Democrats, YOU need to figure it out. He is an empty suit, and just a talker. This rookie can say anything to get elected. This guy is PHONY...If he is the Democratic nominee, the Republican machine will eat him alive.

A vote or endorsement for this rookie car salesman is a vote/endorsement for WRIGHT, REZKO, AYERS, AND FARAHKHAN.....OBAMA is dishonest and disgrace. He does not deserve my vote! WAKE UP DEMOCRATS, ...

VOTE for Hillary, she has the strength and experiences, please don't waste your vote!

Posted by: GREG LIMES | May 16, 2008 2:19 PM

:Hillary Clinton is clearly the best choice to be our party's nominee for President. As a life-long Democrat, age 55, I think the way my party has hosed Hillary and their most loyal and largest voting block; women intolerable. I am confident the Democrat Party will pay a severe price for this blatant assault on women in November. Cry all you want about this being "sour grapes" but little good will result from your on-going efforts to rally Hillary's staunch supporters around your chosen candidate instead of the people's choice. Now, the Democrat Party leaders want women to get their pre- selected from the start, elite, wimp, Barack Obama elected in November. It will be cold day in hell before I comply and I also hope Hillary walks away from this Party."

Posted by: Anonymous | May 16, 2008 2:19 PM

wakeupnow, I believe it is fair to say that you are abusing the system here with that lengthy post. Lighten up.

Posted by: We're awake already!! | May 16, 2008 2:17 PM

Give me a break Monique in NC. What would Mr. Edwards say to an African-American child if he asked the former Senator why a black man had not become President?

Posted by: **** | May 16, 2008 2:15 PM

I am so disappointed in Edwards for his endorsement. I wonder what he will say when his daughter asks, "But, daddy, why hasn't a woman become president?"

Posted by: Monique from NC | May 16, 2008 2:12 PM

This is for all the Women for Hillary out there. I appreciate your support of a female candidate for president. I also understand your disappointment that it may not happen, this time.

What the GOP is counting on is a boycott from you. The choice is yours, but please act in an informed manner. Investigate what Obama's plans are for women's rights an equal pay, etc and compare it to McCain's plan.

You may have to be settling for less than you had hoped for, but in the end you will still be far better off than if you let the GOP propoganda and anti-Obama mud-slingers ruin the Democratic party's chance to win the white house back.

Hillary has already stated she will support Obama if he is chosen as our candidate. Please be as rational and make the informed, right choice.

Women have more power than people think, this is true. We also have the power to really screw things up if we let bitterness drive our decisions.

"Resentment is like taking poison and waiting for the other person to die." - Gandhi

Posted by: Melissa | May 16, 2008 1:50 PM

So I have been reading some of these posts and it boggles the mind how divided and bigotted a lot of your comments are. The very same people, might I add, who call Obama a racist and a bigot and would no doubt be a better president in Africa, still manage to add that they personally don't care about race. FASCINATING! If anyone is at all in doubt about whether racism and prejudice still exist in this country, they need only look at this election. Exit polls show "hard working white Americans" wouldn't spit on a black man if he were on fire let alone vote for him. And we are all SO evolved! Racism doesn't exist! That's a bunch of crap! And an even bigger bunch of crap is that Obama is anymore a racist or a hatemonger than the WHITE right winged gentleman who made the comments for which Rev. Wright and Obama have come under fire for in the first place.

The double standard under which we live is unbelievable! A recent incident in which a McCain supporter, John Hagee's derogatory comments about Catholics was met with a slap on the wrist and McCain's quip about how unlike Obama, Hagee wasn't his pastor for 20 years. Twenty years or twenty minutes, do not the same rules apply? The story has all but disappeared from the news and no press conferences and public denouncements necessary.

For those of you who hide behind your computer keyboards spewing viciousness, standing firmly on your soapbox of entitlement and division, YOU are what's wrong with this country! YOU!

Posted by: WOW! | May 16, 2008 1:45 PM

With the economy as the stated number one concern of a majority of voters in the most recent primaries, why would I, or anyone for that matter, opt for a candidate who is obviously mathematically challenged, doesn't believe in Economics or hold any regard for economists, and can't operate within (or even close to) her own campaign budget? Any one else having trouble with the math here? It just doesn't add up! Blessedly, neither do the delegate votes!

Posted by: Basic Math 101 | May 16, 2008 1:43 PM

Wakeupnow said, "All Democrats oppose racism..." Really? That's not pollsters found out in Pennsylvania and West Virginia. And that's certainly not what Hillary is counting on.

*****so you are playing a "reverse racism card"? If a white person doesn't vote for Obama it's because he is 1/4 black? Newsflash....he is not getting the vote in large part because he is unqualified for the job and that is just one of many reasons.

Now how many men do you think will not vote for Hillary Clinton because she is a woman? The media has pretty much told men not to vote for her because she is a woman. Yet you don't seem too upset about the woman hate that's been going on and the huge media sexism she has been subject to.

Putting all of this crap aside...Hillary Clinton is the qualified candidate. What has Obama done to prove to you that he can do what he claims? Don't get suckered by the media and a pie in the sky promise for "change".

Reason #1:
In Arkansas she was instrumental in straightening out their school system - taking it from one of the worst systems to a role model used by other troubled schools on how to improve public education.

Reason #2:
In 2006, she led the fight to kill the anti-gay Republican constitutional amendment that for the first time would have added laws to the Constitution that would INCREASE discrimination.

Reason #3:
After being pummeled by the public for trying to pass Universal Health care while she was First Lady, she dusted herself off and in 1997, led a federal effort that provided insurance support for children whose parents were unable to provide them with health coverage.

Reason #4:
She was able to secure a raise in research funding for prostate cancer and childhood asthma at the National Institutes of Health.

Reason #5:
She initiated the Adoption and Safe Families Act.

Reason #6:
She's authored a great deal of legislation during her years on the Armed Services Committee that has passed regarding increased and improved benefits for our returning Iraq veterans.

Reason #7:
She was one of the key Senators who fought to give our military badly needed raises and increase in benefits. For being such flag wavers, it was the Republicans and Bush who resisted these attempts to show our military how much we value and appreciate them.

Reason #8:
Since 1974 she has been fighting for a woman's right to choose.

Reason #9:
She is fighting to lift the ban on stem cell research to cure devastating diseases.

Reason #10:
Voted YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)

Reason #11:
Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record. (Dec 2003)

Reason #12:
Vows to protect next generation by paying off national debt.

Reason #13:
Fought in Congress to "Help people facing foreclosure; don't just bail-out banks." (Aug 2007)

Reason #14:
In 1962 she met MLK Jr. preaching a sermon in Chicago and learned from him the importance of equal rights for all.

Reason #15:
In 1965 she brought black classmates to her until-then all-white church.

Reason #16:
Since 1995 has criticized China's human rights abuses.

Reason #17:
In 1972 worked as a lawyer suing white-only schools, working with Marian Wright Edelman on enforcing school desegregation in the South.

Reason #18:
In October, 2000 she said it's not enough for America just to apologize for slavery and move on; we need to concentrate on civil rights now.

Reason #19:
Has been pushing for a "Privacy Bill of Rights" for all Americans since 2000.

Reason #20:
Will end don't ask, don't tell in the military, "Gay soldiers need to shoot straight, not be straight." November 2003.

Reason #21:
Supports civil unions, with full equality of federal benefits.

Reason #22:
Voted YES on adding violent crimes based on victim's sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes.

Reason #23:
Rated 96% by the NAACP, indicating a pro-affirmative-action stance.

Reason #24:
Freedom of Speech: Voted NO on recommending Constitutional ban on flag desecration.

Reason #25: [A.K.A "Whoopi Goldberg's reason to support Hillary"]
Voted YES on repealing tax subsidy for companies which move US jobs offshore. (Mar 2005)

Reason #26:
Voted more funding and stricter sentencing for prosecution of hate crimes. (Apr 2001)

Reason #27:
Voted to Require DNA testing for all federal executions. (Mar 2001)

Reason #28:
Although she was in college during the height of the drug culture in the late 1960s, she was devoted to work on civil rights instead of partying and taking drugs.

Reason #29:
She is fighting for Universal pre-kindergarten.

Reason #30:
Since 1998 has fought publicly to keep art and music programs in public schools. "Arts education is needed in our schools."

Reason #31:
Wants a complete re-write, a Total change in No Child Left Behind. (August, 2007)

Reason #32:
Rated 82% by the NEA, indicating pro-public education votes.

Reason #33:
Voted YES on spending $448B on education & debt reduction instead of Bush's tax cut for the rich. (Apr 2001)

Reason #34:
Wants to "Remove energy dependence on countries who would harm us." (Jun 2006)

Reason #35:
Wants to build a "$50B strategic energy research fund from taxing oil companies." (Oct 2006)

Reason #36:
Wants to Invest in alternative energy; jobs that won't be outsourced.

Reason #37:
Called on U.S. to Ratify Kyoto; and fund more mass transit. (Sep 2000)

Reason #38:
Rated 100% by the CAF, indicating support for energy independence. (Dec 2006)

Reason #39:
Voted NO on drilling for oil in the Alaska National Wildlife Reserve on national security grounds. (Apr 2002)

Reason #40:
Voted YES on targeting 100,000 hydrogen-powered vehicles by 2010. (Jun 2003)

Reason #41:
Voted NO on Bush Administration Energy Policy. (Jul 2003)

Reason #42:
Voted YES on banning drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. (Mar 2005)

Reason #43: (listen up Louisiana!)
Voted YES on $3.1B for emergency oil assistance for hurricane-hit areas. (Oct 2005)

Reason #44:
Voted YES on factoring global warming into federal project planning. (May 2007)

Reason #45:
Voted YES on making oil-producing and exporting cartels illegal. (Jun 2007)

Reason #46:
Rated 89% by the LCV, indicating pro-environment votes.

Reason #47:
Voted NO on confirming Gale Norton as Secretary of Interior. (Jan 2001)

Reason #48:
Called on Bush to "Put someone in charge of Katrina recovery who actually cares." (Aug 2007)

Reason #49:
Her Support for green-collar job training

Reason #50:
Introduced bill to Better track kids' products for exposures to toxic materials coming from China.

Reason #51:
Calls for the government to treat kids as "child citizens" not "minors" under the law. (Since Dec 1999)

Reason #52:
Rated 0% by the Christian Coalition

Reason #53:
Voted YES on enlarging NATO to include poor Eastern Europe nations. (May 2002

Reason #54:
"Smartest strategic choice is peace." (Nov 1999)

Reason #55:
Calling for a NATO-enforced no-fly zone to end Darfur genocide. (June, 2007

Reason #56:
IN the 1970s worked to pass Constitutional Amendment to allow young people aged 18, 19, 20 to vote.

Reason #57:
Voted NO on allowing lobbyist gifts to Congress

Reason #58:
Pledges to support $50B for AIDS relief in US and world

Reason #59:
Rated 100% by APHA, indicating a pro-public health record.

Reason #60:
Voted NO on funding GOP version of Medicare prescription drug benefit. (Apr 2001)

Reason #61:
Voted YES on allowing patients to sue HMOs & collect punitive damages. (Jun 2001)

Reason #62:
She would never say anything as creepy and cult-like as "We are the ones we have been waiting for."

Reason #63:
Says, "Torture cannot be American policy, period." (Sep 2007)

Reason #64:
Rated 100% by SANE, indicating a pro-peace voting record.

Reason #65:
Voted NO on extending the PATRIOT Act's wiretap provision. (Dec 2005)

Reason #66:
Voted YES on requiring CIA reports on detainees & interrogation methods. (Sep 2006)

Reason #67:
Voted YES on preserving habeas corpus for Guantanamo detainees. (Sep 2006)

Reason #68:
Voted YES on limiting soldiers' deployment to 12 months. (Jul 2007)

Reason #69:
Voted YES on giving Guest Workers a path to citizenship. (May 2006)

Reason #70:
Voted YES on comprehensive immigration reform. (Jun 2007)

Reason #71:
Voted: No salary increase for Congress until minimum wage increased.

Reason #72:
Would accept minimum wage as president. (Jul 2007)

Reason #73:
Rated 85% by the AFL-CIO, indicating a pro-union voting record.

Reason #74:
Voted NO on repealing Clinton's ergonomic rules on repetitive stress. (Mar 2001)

Reason #75:
Voted YES on increasing minimum wage to $7.25.

Reason #76:
Voted YES on restricting employer interference in union organizing

Reason #77:
Admits she made mistake in believing in WMDs in Iraq after being mislead by the Bush Administration.

Reason #78:
Reaches out to conservatives but voting record is progressive.

Reason #79:
"Karl Rove is obsessed with me because I take Republicans on & beat them." (Aug 2007)

Reason #80:
Served as a Staff attorney on Watergate/Nixon impeachment investigation.

Reason #81:
1976: Organized Indiana for Carter-Mondale campaign. She knows what it is like to work on a democrat campaign in RED STATES!

Reason #82: :
Rated 100% by the AU, indicating support of church-state separation.

Reason #83:
Voted NO on confirming John Roberts for Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.

Reason #84:
Voted NO on confirming Samuel Alito as Supreme Court Justice.

Reason #85:
Rated 100% by the ARA, indicating a pro-senior voting record.

Reason #86:
Voted YES on increasing tax deductions for college tuition.

Reason #87:
At Wellesley in 1968, steered college anti-war movement.

Reason #88:
Recommended by EMILY's List of pro-choice women.

Reason #89:
Voted YES on shifting $11B from corporate tax loopholes to education. (Mar 2005)

Reason #90:
1980s: Led her church to found the largest daycare in Arkansas.

Reason #91:
1978: chaired Legal Services Corp. in President Carter's Administration - allowing Poor Families access to legal aid

Reason #92:
Voted YES on implementing the 9/11 Commission report to get us out of Iraq in a fast, safe manner.

Reason #93:
Voted YES on restoring $565M for states' and ports' first responders eliminated by the Bush Administration.

Reason #94:
Worked with Evan Bayh, Al Gore, Bill Clinton and others in the 1980s to rejuvenate the Democratic Party from within.

Reason #95
In 1969, she entered law school as "vehicle for social change."

Reason #96
Calls to Increase spending for libraries.

Reason #97:
In October, 2006 - called for "Phased redeployment out of Iraq, beginning immediately."

Reason #98:
IN 1988 Instituted gender diversity Report Card within the American Bar Association, which sets standards for lawyers in the U.S.

Reason #99:
Wants to establish an education "Bill of Rights" - Establish right to education from pre-school through college.

Reason #100:
'Government should pay off all student loans for teachers who go to urban schools." March, 2000

Reason #101:
We simply need another Clinton to clean up the mess left by the second Bush.

http://www.obamaunveiled.com/supporthillary.htm

Posted by: wakeup now | May 16, 2008 1:20 PM

Wakeupnow said, "All Democrats oppose racism..." Really? That's not pollsters found out in Pennsylvania and West Virginia. And that's certainly not what Hillary is counting on.

Posted by: dcp | May 16, 2008 1:10 PM

Mark this date. Tonigt, the first story of the huge movement of women from the Democratic Party aired on FoxNews. They've been ahead of every other network throughout this election. The next big story to hit all networks will be the mass defection of women from the Democratic Party.

Once you put in FOXNEWS, you lost all credibility.

Posted by: Socom | May 16, 2008 1:10 PM

Posted by: wakeup! | May 16, 2008 12:53 PM

---

Nice try. The dems could put up anyone, and McBush would be crushed.

I suggest you lower your dosages, Rush.

Posted by: Franky | May 16, 2008 1:04 PM

Obama has turned out to be one of the most divisive political figures since Nixon.The candidate who said he has this great talent for unifying people, a talent that shows up nowhere in his past, has created more divisiveness in the Democratic party than any figure in history.But the issue that has caused one of the most serious divisions is the one that Obama himself has created over race.
Furthermore,if super delegates let themselves be intimidated and give the nomination to Obama when the primary results show he was not the true will of the people the Democrats can look forward to a moment at the convention when the candidate takes the podium, the balloons are released, the confetti comes down and half the Democratic party including all of Clinton's delegates, will get up and walk out. And they will not be back in the fall. The election at that moment will be over.It will also give the networks one hell of an interesting shot. On that no one is going to forget.
Money+Media=Obama
People+Democracy=Hillary

Posted by: Nancy | May 16, 2008 1:03 PM

The Republicans are laughing at the Dem stupidity if Obama is the nominee. They would win by default because Obama would lose almost every state with the possible exception of one's with huge black populations. If the Wright thing had come out before Super Tuesday, Obama would be gone by now. What's nice about this Obama diversion is that it's got the Republican hate attacks on Hillary quieted down up until after the convention when she emerges the winner. This is actually really working in her favor because the Rethugs are relaxed thinking Hillary is out of the picture and for them; compared to Clinton, Obama is a frightening monstrosity with his anti-American past and Muslim background. It has another effect too. So many Clinton supporters are watching her get trashed by the media and the DNC, they are seeing the Obama arrogance and they don't like it. The aggression of the Obama campaign and the monstrous behavior of the Obama supporters is actually pushing the base of the Democratic Party strongly towards Clinton. The tackiness of the timing and the aggressive maneuver of the Edwards thing was the 'icing on the cake' insult to our intelligence. Democrats have always been very good at smelling a rat. If it behaves like a rat, it is a rat.

http://www.obamaunveiled.com/

Posted by: wakeup! | May 16, 2008 12:53 PM

The time for Republican extremism is over. We've show the world what a fool the US Government is when the Republicans have control - its time to show them we're not all trying to be like the Republican idol - Hitler.

Posted by: Franky | May 16, 2008 12:38 PM

Its good to see the Republicans running around scared, like chickens with the heads cut off.

I'm sure they wake up every morning wondering how many elections they will lose that day.

Posted by: Kent | May 16, 2008 12:36 PM

Newsflash: NEITHER ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO BE PRESIDENT THIS SUMMER SO HOW ARE THEY GOING TO DELIVER. LOL!!!!
Thank You Reader: 100% correct answer to your question is :::........drum....roll...PANDERING!!Its politics as usual.

Posted by: Latesha | May 16, 2008 12:14 PM

Clearly it is evident that the only way Obama can be racist is to be it against himself, look his mother was white and his father was black its going to be extremely difficult for one to choose either or the other, I believe that he has a remarkable job in defining both and attempting to bridge the divide.

Posted by: mixxed up | May 16, 2008 12:09 PM

to "wakeupnow"
The only racist is you.

Posted by: muppet | May 16, 2008 12:05 PM

Gary,
I really don't understand how people can say "where's the beef?" with regard to Obama. It has always seemed to me that he was the most clear about what he intends to do with his presidency. But maybe that's because I watch debates and look at websites. If you really want to know Obama's plans go to www.barackobama.com/issues. It's all there.
And you really look dumb applauding mchillary's proposal about the gas tax. newsflash: NEITHER ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO BE PRESIDENT THIS SUMMER SO HOW ARE THEY GOING TO DELIVER. LOL.
and as obama pointed out, some states have already tried lifting gas taxes before and the gas companies simply raise their prices to fill the gap. makes sense, that's how the market works. why charge less when you know you can get more? the only way to reduce the prices is reduce the demand...

Posted by: reader | May 16, 2008 11:47 AM

the confirmed racist in this race is Obama

Posted by: Anonymous | May 16, 2008 11:35 AM

The standard and media coverage concerning Obama's flaws is much greater than the other candidates. They accuse Obama of belonging to a church needed to his state senator seat. He condemns Wright's statements and views and is questioned. McCain condemns Hagee's statements and Hagee apologizes and McCain is accepted. McCain votes against MLK's holiday for votes and his new position is accepted. They accuse Obama of taking $260,000 in donations and buying 15 feet of adjacent property from Rezko. Hsu and Peter Paul gave Hillary millions. McCain was saved from indictment in the Savings and Loan by friendly politicians. McCain's Iraq, Iran and foreign policy platform is in direct contrast to the recommendations of the Joint Chiefs as well as Gates and Adm. Mellon. The media has not touched on husband/wife relations where Obama wins against both candidates. Obama is an Elitest in speech only. He could not lend his campaign (She did too late after super Tuesday losing 11 straight) 11 million like Hillary nor ten times the amount if he were McCain's wife. A serious character flaw in Obama is when faced with undue bias or criticism he uses inappropriate terms like "sweetie" and "bitter". Disheartened at willing to work hard to get ahead but not having the chance at anything except near minimum wage. Of course some people will fall back on their church in a time of nedd, they usually find and receive help. Some will go hunting with the spare time to get their minds off of their problems. Barack needs to check his anger at the door and let the people choose what they think will be best for themselves. Hillary and Obama's platform agree on 90% except in the foreign policy field, where Obama believe it or not has a position closer to the joint chiefs on Iran and elsewhere.

Posted by: Jimbo | May 16, 2008 11:34 AM

This is a real threat! I'm surprised there's still so much bigots in America, but they're losing out this time! if they had complained honestly last time , we wouldn't be saddled with the worst president we've ever had in Bush! Be honest for once you've listened to all the candidate...non-bigots have seen the light- OBAMA 08. Go on ranting like the sour losers you are...y'all!

Posted by: Larry | May 16, 2008 11:24 AM

Never has someone's influence been more exaggerated than that of former Senator John Edwards (D-NC).

He was always treated as a first tier contender even as poll numbers and fundraising lagged. Now after he has made an after the fact endorsement of Obama it is being reported that it has created a shift of delegates to Obama.

I guess Edwards who craves the spotlight saw this as an opportunity to reclaim it for a brief moment.

Edwards has won exactly one primary in two presidential campaigns. If any diehard Edwards supporters still believe that Edwards is not all about himself and want to sign up for him for another presidential run then I have some swampland in Florida to sell you.

Posted by: danielhancock | May 16, 2008 11:20 AM

The low level of discourse by anti-Obama posters is probably the work of dirty-trick Republican mercenaries. There are, unfortunately, two parties of any heft in the U.S., and for one of them, anything goes. The last eight years have seen which party that label mostly adheres to. The Republican tactic and strategy is to promote fear. That was also the Nazi strategy. The next election, there is a clear choice. The fear of Obama being an underminer is something implanted by the party that brought the nation the true Underminer--Bush.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/15/obamas-early-years-recall_n_101984.html

Posted by: edwcorey | May 16, 2008 11:09 AM

What does Edwards and his "followers" want? For Edwards to be vice president, of course. If he didn't have what it took to remain in the race, do the next best thing~~~kiss Obama's butt and vie for the vice presidency slot. That way, save all the stress of campaigning for the Dem, nomination... and oh yes, a heap of work trying to hustle money for the campaign. So many see Obama as a most intelligent, charsmatic individual. I'd bet he's only using the deceptive skills he learned from countless "power" seminars~~check out that fact. He got so good at it that he started teaching these sort of seminars. Another thing, read parts of his wife's college thesis. Pure racist. The fact that he was an active member of Wright's "God damned America" church for the past 20 years should prompt those with active brain cells to see the light. A true Christian church does not preach hate. For many years, Obama has pledged his alligence to Africa. Maybe he'd make a good president there, but not in America~~~and folks, that's where we are.

Posted by: Paddie | May 16, 2008 11:07 AM

Lots of comments about Edwards joining Obama.
Obama must win. He is our only hope for change.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 16, 2008 10:34 AM

I am a 44-year-old Man served 4 years in the Navy and I am a Computer Programmer with a college education making more then 50,000 a year. I guess by what the polls say it would make me an Obama supporter. The problem with this idea is I think outside of my cubicle and question what, where and why. I don't expect much from a politician just the answers to the questions. The old ad says it all (Where's the Beef?) Obama says allot of words and yet the questions are not being answered. I always liked John and Elizabeth Edwards but John and his endorsement really means nothing to the 15,511,000 Hillary supporters and yes only around 500,000 votes difference between the two candidates without counting FL & MI. With the FL & MI counted as of today Hillary wins the popular vote by 100,000 and I feel that even then it is still too close to claim a winner. That is why it is going to the convention unless by a mere miracle Obama reaches the 2012 delegates needed then the lady will have to step aside. It does seem comical with the introduction of Edwards by Obama. Obama was a little too child like with excitement of his endorsement. He and the media are putting way too much weight on it. Really! John Edwards didn't make the cut and had to drop out early in the run for the presidency so how much real influence does he have on the working class? The press and the candidates really over hyped him and I really don't care one way or the other if John is backing one or the other candidate. He probably should have stayed out of it or made it known from the start who he was going to back. Coming out now at this time just makes the voters question his real motives. Most voters can see what is playing out here. You can't forget that He and Obama as well as the press is ganging up on Hillary and I still won't forget the feeling I had watching it unfold on the debate in New Hampshire when John and Obama attacked her as a team. She may have a slim chance if any to make the nomination but I plan to write in Hillary's name in November. My family and friends feel the same as I do and we feel Obama is being pushed down our throats by the Democratic comity and the press with the comities lopsided enforcement of the rules on the states of the early voting debacle. Remember there were more then 2 states that moved the primary dates ahead. The media will never work hard to discredit Obama in anyway until Hillary is out of the picture. They really dislike the Clinton's to much to do that. With the endorsement and the timing it feels like Obama is pandering for super delegates and blue-collar votes that he is struggling with. He knows he can't win without the Hillary supporters. Obama accused Clinton of doing the same when she suggested lowering the Gas Tax. The real question with the gas tax is what other proposal is being put out there that is going to relieve our worries today. No one is willing to stand up and make an alternative suggestion. Instead we hear Obama saying it is a bad idea. Well! Come on! Make your words mean something this time and tell us what you are going to do that will relieve our pain at the pump. The strange thing to me it seems the media is in love with Obama like they loved the Bush Administration all these years. They are over looking Obama's faults just like they did when it came to Bush and his screw-ups. One sure thing is gas prices will come down when we clean our government of all the "Oil Men".

Posted by: Garyt1708 | May 16, 2008 10:26 AM

Edwards is so much better than Obama its still amazing to me that anyone would choose Obama over Edwards. Obama can't debate, says he would meet with terrorists groups now says he wouldn't, stood up for Rev. Wright then dropped him, gave a big explanation about not wearing a flag pin but now wears one everyday, can't hold his own in a debate, won't do press conferences, won't answer questions until his advisors tell him what to say. According to his supporters has done two things to talk about, communtity work in Chicago and passed his one bill on ethics reform. I doubt if we will see any changes at all if he is President because he doesn't know from one day to the next what he will do now let alone 2 or 3 years from now. Another President without a clue, wow thats something to look forward to.

Posted by: Jann | May 16, 2008 10:01 AM

Obama is laughing at the whites who worship him. His entire agenda is for blacks, black reparations, black elitism. Look at his transparent voting record as an Illinios Sen. to verify this. You fools you're being taken for a ride by a racist who despises that you have white skin. I don't give a damn about skin color but Obama sure does!

what I'm seeing is that some voters are using Obama's race as a trophy that allows them to feel that they are doing something symbolic to stop racism in the U.S. All Democrats oppose racism but you don't go about proving it by voting for a black racist! This is blinding voters to how scary this Obama individual is.
http://www.obamaunveiled.com/

Posted by: wakeupnow! | May 16, 2008 9:41 AM

Talk about BITTER! Some of these messages are apalling, Calling Obama derogatory names,in such a disparaging tone.This proves the bitterness of all of you who are not having their own way, you are certainly members of the Clinton organization, other wise know as the I Want,I Want,Me Me Me Club. I certainly would never vote for Hillary, but I would never insult her with name calling!

Posted by: Phyl | May 16, 2008 9:41 AM

Buh-bye, Clintons.

And don't let the door hit yer fat arses on the way out.

Gawd, it's great to be alive!

:)

Posted by: Chuckamok | May 16, 2008 9:39 AM

Wake-Up,

Please go back to sleep.
Of the total population, White Americans make up 74%. Not 83%. Get it right.

And since he has more total everything, votes, delegates, super delegates, he is apparently getting more than enough votes.

Which lays no claim to your "(he can't get the "average American" vote)" He doesnt need the Average American vote, he needs the majority of votes, which he has.


Why is that the Hillary campaign is looking more and more like a republican campaign? Using the fear mongering tactics and ignorance to scare votes her way.

This is what people are tired of, this is why people are going to Obama. Keep peddling your hate and preaching fear tactics to the ignorant to sway them. Eventually Obama will be the nominee and the majority of these so called Hillary fans will show their true colors and reveal themselves for what they always have been....Republicans.

Posted by: Stop the insanity | May 16, 2008 9:38 AM

bin laden is in saudi arabia more than likey where he has been quite some time...still plotting with the rulers..Saudi Arabia is out worst enemy..they tried to ruin our ecomony with 9-11 so that didn't work so now they trying it with oil....We should have invaded them...not Iraq...Iraq were no danger to anyone but their own people..Saudi Arabia want the Jews out of Israel and our govt is arming them....Who do we think they want all these arms to fight..its certainly not a fellow arab..Its Israel and if the truth were know,they are probaly financing Iran...Saudi Arabia with the other oil rich states are in A holy war with the world that is not Islam...They intend with their wealth to weaken the west financely in they years to come and retake Israel.

Posted by: lucygirl1 | May 16, 2008 9:37 AM

Still can't figure why the Cointon supporters cry "popular vote" but patently disenfranchise the one million Obama supporters in Michigan who never got to vote. That number alone assures Obama a popular vote edge.

Seems quite hypocritical, that Hillary's people want to change the rules again, especially considering those same Hillary people make up the majority of the rules committee that established those guidelines in the first place.

So now that the very rules they instigated are working against her, they want to reverse their own policies? Sounds like something Rove would advise Bush to do.

Those two factors, Obama's Michigan voters and Hillary's staff backpedalling on their own rules, are being ignored by the Hillary people, here on the blogs and in her campaign staff.

Be honest, folks, and consider the truth here. Not just the parts of it that fit your personal political agenda.

Posted by: JEP | May 16, 2008 9:26 AM

EDWARDS' I WOUNDER WHO YOU WOULD HAVE
JUMP ON THE WAGON WITH [SADAM] OBAMA
IF YOU DID NOT HAVE THE MONEY YOU
STOLED FROM ALL THE POOR PEOPLE YOU
CLAIM TO HELP' BY THE WAY HOW MUCH
DID [OPRAH] HAVE TO GIVE YOU TO CHANGE COLOR' WHAT JOB DID [HUSSEIN]
PROMISE YOU OVER THE CROOKS AT THE
JUSTIC DEPT'

Posted by: RUGMAN | May 16, 2008 9:23 AM

Here we have another news day and not a mention of Hillary again. What is going on with her fantasy campaign? Does she even have a press core anymore? Shouldn't we at least hear a quote or two coming from her camp?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 16, 2008 9:14 AM

This former Edwards support is not swinging to Obama. I fear he may be the biggest menance ever to enter the White House. The media have not asked him the tough questions. And if Hillary is not his running mate, he is going nowhere. Seniors, Catholics, Jews, middle class whites and Hispanics are going elsewhere. Another failure by the Democratic Party.

Posted by: Political Watchdog | May 16, 2008 8:52 AM

Not only is Obama unqualified, so racist he is insane,...and unelectible:

http://www.obamaunveiled.com/


Obama can not win in a country that is 83% white (he can't get the "average American" vote):
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2008/05/11/2008-05-11_face_it_democrats_barack_obamas_got_a_gr.html?print=1&page=all

(sorry if that bothers you but all of you observed blacks vote for their own skin color, .....whites will do the same)

this has been so eye opening. we have all just learned that some Democrats will jump off a cliff even if you have no qualifications and the media portrays you as a rock star, and you offer the "change" with absolutely no proof to back that claim. Yep, we are seeing that there are some very naive gullible folks in the Democratic Party. Even as more and more dirt comes out on Obama, they refuse to open their eyes. It's a cult at this point and they are about to drink that spiked cherry Cool-Aid to go down with their leader when the comet comes around.

I'm looking forward to Hillary winning the nomination despite all of this stupidity...."hopes" and "dreams" that an insane racist that hates America, with ties to Hamas, could win the US Presidency.

Posted by: wakeup | May 16, 2008 8:41 AM

I supported John Edwards initially because of his plan for universal health care.

And, like his wife Elizabeth, I now support Clinton because her plan has the same components.

Obama's health plan is not universal and is seriously flawed.

Edwards' endorsement of Obama does nothing to sway my opinion, nor that of many other former Edwards supporters who chose and will continue to support Senator Clinton.

About the only thing his endorsement did was to help divert media attention away from Clinton's win in WV.

Posted by: Health Voter | May 16, 2008 8:36 AM

I think that it will be "poor Hillary" who will have the last laugh. How quickly do people forget. We have been in the twilight zone for 8 years because of some smooth-talking guy who, basically did your thinking for you--lied to your face. It was an apparent--transparent lie, and I could not believe the number of people who fell for it. Now, here we are again. Playing out the Democrats version of WMD. We have another smooth-talking guy who is telling you what you want to hear--yep, lying to your face. All the signs are there, but once again all of the supposedly well-educated, highly-intelligent people are too stupid to heed the obvious. What makes this so bad is that you've been warned. Reverend Wright TOLD you "...say what you want to hear...anything that will get them elected." Then, we have Obama saying that he goes to this man's church, and the guy is and has been his spirtual ADVISOR for 20 YEARS, but he doesn't listen to him??? So...you ask the guy for advice, but you don't listen to his advise...for 20 years, you've been asking this guy, your spiritual advisor for advice and not listening?? Give me a break! Why are you even friends then?? Dah! I think Hillary is a remarkable person. When faced with adversity, she stands firm; she doesn't quit and SHE DOESN'T MAKE EXCUSES. She decisive and doesn't TALK a lot of NOTHING like Obama does. That's the leadership qualities that this country needs. Obama doesn't have enough well-rounded KNOWLEDGE or experience, and he doesn't do well under pressure, if you would take the time to notice. Pay attention. Take voting seriously. It's about the country. Don't join the crowd. THINK BEFORE YOU VOTE. Educate yourself to the candidate, and use some common sense.

Posted by: Annette | May 16, 2008 8:19 AM

It's over, Hillary! And it will soon be over for you, McBush!

Time for sunrise in the cloudy skies of our nation again!

Irish for O'bama! Obama-Gore '08!

Posted by: Kay | May 16, 2008 7:59 AM

É importantíssimo o apoio dado a Obama pelo ex-senador Edwards. Em um momento como esse na reta final ele ganha um aliado de peso. Sou brasileiro e tenho imenso gosto pela política norte-americana. A vitoria de Obama seria muito importante para a América Latina, a qual o possível futuro presidente prometeu ter uma relação de maior proximidade com a região.

Posted by: Isaac | May 16, 2008 7:22 AM

Fran - Well spoken (written, whatever). America makes demands on its allies and threats to its adversaries. It's only fair to request that we listen once in awhile as well as talk.

Posted by: treetopflyer | May 16, 2008 3:13 AM

OBAMA GOOD

Posted by: OBAMA | May 16, 2008 3:10 AM

Fran,

I understand your view, but the problem with this view is that it is precisely that of a non-American. Why should an American vote based on what other countries would like America to do? Yes, international reputation is a consideration in elections, but it is not the only consideration.

Many of those people voting for Bush in 2004 were voting about something other than Iraq, the "War on Terror," etc. Foreign policy weighed much more heavily in the minds of those voting against Bush, whereas probably half of the people voting for Bush were holding their noses about foreign policy while putting down a vote for the candidate who would decide two seats on the Supreme Court. Can you blame Americans for putting domestic concerns over foreign ones?

Most people (and not only Americans), whether they realize it or not, vote based on the things that affect them most closely. The situation in Iraq, in particular, has a tangible effect on very few Americans. Most people don't have a loved one in the military, and most people haven't yet felt any of the economic costs of the war. Perhaps Americans can be faulted economically for not tallying the costs--we are a nation of debtors, after all. But it is no surprise that people are fretting more about the housing crisis, more about rising gas and food prices, and more about the turbulent stock market than about how the rest of the world views us.

You can criticize this focus on domestic worries as selfish or narcissistic if you want, and it may well be, but I'd argue that fretting Europeans who want Americans to reflect on their views first are liable to make Americans even more likely to thumb their noses at you.

One of the big rallying points behind starting the Iraq War, after all, was that the French told us we shouldn't. That had many Americans dumping French wine down their drains and clamoring to change "French fries" to "freedom fries." Any chiding from abroad or any perception that foreigners, especially Europeans, are trying to meddle in our affairs or impose their wills on us leaves many Americans likely to do the opposite simply out of spite. Childish? Perhaps. But then who endowed Europeans with the superior moral sense that they can chide Americans?

Posted by: blert | May 16, 2008 3:10 AM

OBAMA GOOD

Posted by: OBAMA | May 16, 2008 3:10 AM

...He should be in Cuba with the other Muslim terrorists. This guy is a joke !!!

Posted by: Sad Democrat | May 16, 2008 1:06 AM
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The Republicans' ways are fear and hate! They seem to be afraid of everyone, and hate anyone that does not look like themselves.

The "Sad Democrat" would be one who supports McCain and the Bush anti-american policy.

Bush and McCain should be in GitMo with the other terrorists they have created.

Posted by: Franky | May 16, 2008 2:28 AM

More pro-Obama subeterfuge from the Post. Almost all the Edwards-to-Obama delegates cited had aleady moved before the Edwards endorsement.

Posted by: Threedy | May 16, 2008 2:13 AM

In a way I am starting to think the Republicans have offered McCain as a sacrifice, because he is not going to win, I'd be willing to bed all the money I have, he is just not going to undo the travesties of the Bush administration.
So that is that.

Posted by: Keith | May 16, 2008 2:04 AM

I Love My Country. It's Damaged Right Now, In Many Ways..

Obama 08

Posted by: Anonymous | May 16, 2008 1:46 AM

The neocon hate machine is in full swing here on this blog- along with the white trash and other assorted losers for Hillary. What an astonshing and impressive variety of bottom feeders. It's like turning on the light in a dank basement and watching all the creepy crawlies scatter. I am so encouraged by this process. I think you should all continue to rant and rave as much as possible- just let it all go. Pretty soon the overwhelming number of new democratic voters along with anyone with an IQ over say 75 will be voting for Obama. You can and you should persist with your delusions that you are still in power. But I guess you wouldn't know that, because you don't know where to go for real information and you wouldn't know what to do with it if it hit you in the face. Let's just put it this way; nice and simple- while you have been busy on these blogs and elbowing for position on your call-in hate shows and whatever else it is you do with yourself all day, the world has changed. People like me don't have time to write to blogs. This the first and only post I will make. And I will not be returning to read any more of your yammering madness. But I thought it was worth a moment to drop you all a line, because really it is kind of pathetic that you don't have a clue yet. You have inspired me and millions like to me get up and do something for our country. And we are. We are going to clean house. Your house. Your former house I should say. Your day is already over. Hate and fear mongering, along with wanton greed and self serving racist nationalism is on the wane. It's called human evolution. Oh I know, you don't believe in any sort of evolution. That's OK. You know that old sayin'- you don't need to believe in that tractor trailer to be run over by it.

- Oh and btw- I'm white middle working class born in Applachia of Welsh-Irish ancestry who admires a good fighter as much as anyone. Hillary is a pathetic cheating loser. It is Obama who has proven he floats like a butterfly and stings like a bee. He has thoroughly outclassed Hillary and angry old McAnger and outmaneuvered both of them every step of the way. Well done Obama. We need that kind of intelligence and cool thinking as head of state, not some bombastic senile old fart or another machine politician who will do anything (shots anyone?) to get elected.


Posted by: Next Chapter | May 16, 2008 1:21 AM

I put it to you all that "Sad Democrat" is neither.

Posted by: Just sayin' | May 16, 2008 1:15 AM

eljeffejesus-LOL!

Has anyone ever told you we allow MORE Immigration than anyone else?

Some of us just want to have the Newbies arrive like they should.

Then, consider the American Melting pot like a Big Stew!

For decades we added Potatoes, Limes, Sourkraut, Lentils, Rice, Curry, Vodka, Even Snails!

But, lately, it has been Mostly Beans. Beans,beans, beans! They have swollen up and have begun to force all the tastier ingredients out!

We have a Choice. We can try to get the Beans to keep with the Recipe. Or,

We can just CUT THE BEANS OFF! Start throwing them OUT!

I, am happy to just get all the ones trying to FORCE their way in, back out, and try to live with the overload already in!

Nationalism, is NOT Racism! This is the year 2008. The US has 300 Million People. Our Resources are getting Maxed out!

I have made suggestions about what should be done, to Mitt Romney's Camp. In a Nut-Shell, it amounts to Venturing Capital, to OTHER places opportunities can exist.

Jerkwads like Chavez, Morales and others, DO MAKE IT A HARD SELL! Foreign Investments, should NOT be able to be STOLEN by Leftist Thieves!

The US is NOT the only place to go to get ahead. But, to minions wanting to pull the same garbage pulled in Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador, Chile, Nicaragua, and Cuba,

It IS the Shiny Prize!

Then Amigo, take a good look at the Protectionist Measures Mexico pulls to protect it's sovereignty! ;~)

-Raton-El

Posted by: RAT-The | May 16, 2008 1:09 AM

If I can bring the perspective of a non-US citizen to this discussion ...

As most Americans who have been paying attention will know, the image of the US overseas has been pretty unappealing since Vietnam. For a time post 9/11 many people felt a degree of sympathy and even goodwill towards the US, but George Bush squandered all of that, and the status quo ante returned. Amongst educated people, the argument was between those who thought America was full of evil, greedy, narrowminded sociopaths or ignorant, xenophobic morons. When George Bush wangled his way back into power in 2004, the debate pretty much came to a halt. Much of the rest of the educated world was too gobsmacked to find the words. People largely shook their heads in disgust or concluded that US governmance could be described as the rule of venal sociopaths through the manipulation of xenophobic morons.

Since that time, people like Al Gore and now especially, Barack Obama have begun to undermine this view. West Virginia certainly gave aid and comfort to those holding on to the traditional view, and the ignorant bigoted 'swiftboat'-style campaigns against Obama remind us of all the things non-Americans think repulsive about the US, while every victory of Obama tells of the possibility of an America who could fly with the angels and play a part in a saner and more worthy world -- a world in which Americans everywhere could hold their heads up and declare that that most impressive preamble to the constitution amounted to more than mere words on a dusty old document.

Before anyone accuses me of being an America-hater let me say clearly, I don't hate Americans as a class. America strikes me as something like the mixed bag of lollies. Close your eyes, put your hand in, and take pot luck on what goes into your mouth. There are a great many worthy Americans -- so many in fact that Gore actually won the majority of the vote in 2000, and but for some electoral skullduggery would have won the Presidency. Regrettably, in recent years, the worst elements of America have proven better organised and more resolute in their determination to play out their angst as government policy. This has profoundly tarnished America's standing internationally. Mike Huckabee's policy on border security -- "Chuck Norris" -- and the antics of the conservative Christian right who were Bush's foot soldiers, underlines for many the popular view of the dynamics of your politics. For many, America's policy is not merely unethical but implausible. Many find it very hard to understand why the US essentially fund both sides of the "war on terror" by allowing itself to become increasingly dependent on a commodity held in substantial volume by those giving aid and comfort to its enemies and then having to spend up big and destroy its goodwill securing supply. One of your leading economists, Joseph Stiglitz, recently claimed that the Iraq war would ultimately cost the US something like $US 3trillion. It has already cost $US600 billion. The best explanations of this policy don't recommend the last half dozen administrations. It may well be that the people who qualify best as enemies of America have been your governments.

This election is for you, for Americans, but please bear in mind that others will judge you by how this plays out. In the minds of many a victory for Obama would draw a definitive line under the Bush years and signal that America planned to begin being part of the solution rather than part of the problem.

Fran

Posted by: Fran | May 16, 2008 1:08 AM

Actually, that would be a Palestinian in Gaza who believes Obama would do the best job at bringing peace to the Middle East. That's right. Peace. Damn Middle Eastern peacemonger, getting on the phone and asking people to support a president to bring peace. Why isn't he blowing something up the way he should be?

Boy, a Muslim can't even do something peaceful without nutbags like you getting scared out of your wits. What the hell is wrong with that?

Posted by: treetopflyer | May 16, 2008 1:08 AM

Michelle Obama was campaigning in Wisconsin last February for her husband, Barack Obama, when she said: "For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country."
Obamas preacher spews hate against our country & white people. Obama refuses to wear the American flag pin till recently. What kind of jerk is this ? He should be in Cuba with the other Muslim terrorists. This guy is a joke !!!

Posted by: Sad Democrat | May 16, 2008 1:06 AM

well, well...we all know who looks like they will win, huh? OBAMA! People can hate and come up with all this retoric bs...look at the current state w/ bush. nothing but b s! the worst president ever! you know it. he cant compare to obama...he doesnt care about the u.s. only his interests in oil for his biz and family ties...u cant see this? if not u r dumb & blind. obama and edwards will be the best thing for this country in a decade...just be patient and give hope its chance...republicans r so dumb to me...not all but alot. the way u think is incredible..all these young people dead in a bs war and u support it?! come on people...be smart for once. look at gas, and exxon making record profits and its ok? so u like pumping $4 in your tank per gallon huh? the only way to make peace is to sit down and talk to ALL who hate us. it does not mean we r giving in...but u cant bully everyone. we will be fighting 4ever. you cant print enough money to stop those from hating us. have fair forighn policy that doesnt screw people and there u go. folks like us so they wont want to blow us up...then you save $$$ on all the defense stuff because there's little to defend if people like you more...duh! take care of our own...healthcare, schooling, and so on. will bush do this? get real. democrats needed to re-build america now!
repubs..take a chill pill and sit the f down...clip your finger nails or something while a real man (notice I said man) takes charge. Nothing wrong w/ woman in charge but woman base decisions on emotion (who disagrees? ask any married man. so a woman as prez....dont know about that. too much chemical balance issues and certain times of the month...might make a crazy decision on something important cause she was in one of her 'moments' that older woman have...stick with the fella's on this one.
OBAMA & EDWARDS- a match made in heaven.

Posted by: makeba | May 16, 2008 1:05 AM

al-jazeera has a phone bank for obama...
NoObama 2008

Posted by: mark | May 16, 2008 12:45 AM

JohnK--Hillary will do all she can behind the scenes to sabotage Obama. Don't doubt it for a second. We'll still win, but let's all be clear about what she is. The overtly racist campaign she has run would make Nixon blush.

Posted by: gmundenat | May 16, 2008 12:23 AM

Hillary's chickens are coming home to roost!!!

Posted by: Jack5 | May 16, 2008 12:22 AM

Sorry Republicans , you did not pull it off , Clinton has lost so get your crying towels ready and stand by , Obama and the Democratic party with the help of the Clintons will annihilate McCain and the Repugs , your party of crooks , lunatics and low life has done itself in .

Posted by: John Kooms | May 16, 2008 12:19 AM

As an independent, I say, vote against the party pushing anti-immigration as a racist web issue... although at least they chose McCain and not Mitt Romney...

I think Latinos this year will tilt Democrat if the old arguments from the right are brough out as reminders to voters...

Posted by: eljefejesus | May 16, 2008 12:12 AM

Perhaps Obama will hire Hillary to be a White House bathroom attendant. Given how she has run her campaign, parking cars would be too much for her.

Posted by: gmundenat | May 16, 2008 12:12 AM

Hillary's Downfall!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6Lstkiexhc

see it before they take it down.

Posted by: pubichaironmycokecan | May 16, 2008 12:11 AM

I don't blame McCain for his desperation, considering that the people are overwhelmingly voting for change...

Republicans, about face and retreat!
Democrats, charge!

Posted by: eljefejesus | May 16, 2008 12:09 AM

It's true, even with her WV victory, Clinton is still behind in the popular vote if you include the estimates from Iowa, Nevada, Maine and Washington (which Clinton, who is all about the popular vote, surely doesn't want to discount). Bad news for Obama is that counting all votes, including FL and MI, he no only has an 80,000 vote lead. How that holds will be determined on how motivated the voters in Oregon and Kentucky are. Oregon has half a million fewer people than Kentucky, and the latest polls have Obama leading in the teens in Oregon and trailing by over 20% in Kentucky. Unless Edwards's endorsement has a significant effect in Obama's favor, Hillary could very well legitimately claim a popular majority with all the states counted, not just by her selective criteria.

If Obama has fewer votes than Hillary by the end of the primaries, I'll be writing as many super delegates as I can to switch their support to Hillary. Rules be damned. In the Soviet Union the rules said "criticize and go to the gulags". That didn't make it right, and neither does making Democratic voters pay for the decisions of Republican state legislators. I hope both the superdelegates and the rank and file will have the decency to accept the will of the majority, whichever way that may go.

Oh. And once again, I hope Howard Dean gets f___ed by an elephant.

Posted by: treetopflyer | May 16, 2008 12:08 AM

To: hmmmmm | May 15, 2008 11:58 PM

Nice try Rush Stooge! Operation Coo-Coos will not divide the democrats.

We will stick together and take the whitehouse this november.

The Republican's only tool is to use FEAR, as they are cowards always running scared and hiding from the truth. Its time for them to return to their caves and hide with their terrorist friends.

Posted by: Franky | May 16, 2008 12:08 AM

Hillary has lost. Ever since the Maine results--preceding the Potomac beatdown administered by Obama--the "race" has been nothing more than script playing itself out.

The junior senator from New York lost to a better candidate. Get over it.

Posted by: gmundenat | May 16, 2008 12:07 AM

Notice that McCain now stoops to trying to associate Obama with appeasement of Hitler and with terrorists. Wow.... desperate times I guess.

After Republicans lost special elections in the most Republican-strongholds time after time this Spring...

Posted by: eljefejesus | May 16, 2008 12:04 AM

I am a bit mystified - what is it about the Washington Post that invites comments that veer toward incoherent raving? By comparison, the New York Times comments at least generally fall into the realm of rational argument. Is it a lack of control over the comments at the Post, a more "polarized" readership, or something else?

Posted by: David | May 16, 2008 12:04 AM

what are you talking about "she lost"? millions have still not voted ....and then there is that all pervasive super-delegate vote..where they must choose who can win. This thing is so close it can go either way.
You do realize that Obama has lost any chance of winning after the Wright thing? The Hamas thing? And you can see that he has lost much of the female vote, the working class white vote, and the Hispanics, the Jews, the Catholics, the older white folks? And women should not be insulted that this guy with no qualifications as been given a free ride to the nomination? So they will choose to screw Hillary over in order to make Democrats lose come November? This is a double whammy insult to women. Last we suspect corruption and paid off delegates. We suspect money is behind this.
I think she will win the nomination. If she doesn't then we lose the Presidency regardless of many many women (and some men) writing Hills name in on the ballot. What we see happening now is the wake-up call. The beginning of the unraveling of the Obama arrogant and empty claim to the nomination. His free ride is over.

Posted by: hmmmmm | May 15, 2008 11:58 PM

Is Obama part of a political dynasty, like the Bushs and Clintons?

Nepotism has always rubbed me the wrong way.

Posted by: Random Question | May 15, 2008 11:44 PM
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Nope!

Hillary Clinton in 2008 & 2012!
Chelsea Clinton in 2016 & 2020!
Bill Jr. Clinton in 2024 & 2028!
Bandar Bush in 2032 & 2036!
Mohammed Bush in 2040 & 2044!

(I'll be really old for those last two, so I'd vote to be cruel to the youngsters with the loud radio next door!)


Posted by: Jeb | May 15, 2008 11:56 PM

Waiting for Hillary to DO, not hint at, the right thing is like waiting for Dan Rather to call Florida. A true narcissist has no higher purpose.

Posted by: gmundenat | May 15, 2008 11:50 PM

Anyone in the mood for some good music? Google "The Little First Lady with Megalomania".

Hilarious!

Posted by: gmundenat | May 15, 2008 11:44 PM

Try Googling "Heavy Qoob" for a funny song/youtube video as well.

Posted by: Randy | May 15, 2008 11:47 PM

In efforts to keep my words civil in light of the foolish words of some posters on here, I'll only say that women who defect to the republican party or throw away their votes simply because Obama is marked as the winner for the democratic nomination have only temselves to blame for their misfortune. Don't side with Hillary because she is a woman, side with her because of her policies, then maybe your complaints won't fall on deaf ears. I am often amazed by the unrealistic idiocy in comments I come across on here. It goes both ways. If you're automatically voting for Obama because he is black as you may be, you're making the same mistake.

I voted for Obama, because I have looked into his platform. The man has undergone a Senatorial campaign and all of the associated background checks which aren't easy to get to where he is now. Its time for change, This is a democracy, not a dictatorship, why do we keep letting family politics run US politics? Voting for Obama means much more than beating Hillary. Get over it and focus your efforts on the next term instead of trying to screw up the political process if you can't win.

Posted by: jack5 | May 15, 2008 11:47 PM

--Hillary Clinton declared recently:

"I'm going to work my heart out for WHOEVER our nominee is. Obviously, I'm still hoping to be that nominee, but I'm going to do everything I can to make sure that anyone who supported me ... understands what a GRAVE error it would be not to vote for Sen. Obama."

Posted by: Sally | May 15, 2008 11:46 PM

There's still states left to vote, but Obama leads the delegates, superdelegates, states, and popular vote. So if Hillary wants to win, it's a little late.

I'll say one thing, if she can will the popular vote, delegates, and the nomination, I'll vote for her. But if she doesn't have the votes, she doesn't get the nomination. Sorry, the voters have spoken.

Posted by: Six | May 15, 2008 11:45 PM

Yeah biased here, but has anyone pointed out that Clinton has picked up a net of 1 pledged delegate in the last 3 primaries, including her two wins? Sorry, but it is over.

Posted by: Chicago Matt | May 15, 2008 11:44 PM

Anyone in the mood for some good music? Google "The Little First Lady with Megalomania".

Hilarious!

Posted by: gmundenat | May 15, 2008 11:44 PM

Is Obama part of a political dynasty, like the Bushs and Clintons?

Nepotism has always rubbed me the wrong way.

Posted by: Random Question | May 15, 2008 11:44 PM

Yes, do call a spade a spade. It's so much more PC than using the N word.

Posted by: Mac the Knife | May 15, 2008 11:44 PM

Good lord, women, get over it. Obama won and Hillary didn't. She's corrupt and a big phony not to mention she wouldn't have won in the fall if she were the candidate anyway. Why do you think Republican pundits were falling over themselves to help her, i.e., Limbaugh, O'Reilly. They wanted her to run!!

Posted by: Happy w/ Obama | May 15, 2008 11:41 PM

Something happened on the way to the coronation...

Posted by: gmundenat | May 15, 2008 11:41 PM

There are 17,000,000 of us who love and respect the Clintons, and want Hillary to be elected. Are we going to be pro active, while we have the chance. Can you imagine what would happen if all 17,000,000 of us wrote or called the "leaders" and also voted a write-in vote for Hillary. It would blow them away. gw.

Posted by: Iowatreasures | May 15, 2008 11:32 PM
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Iowatreasures, you've got that right. What we must do is stop Obama! There are movements all over the internet, but I think until he actually coronates himself, we're not going to get a real movement going.

I think, once he's crowned, we can develop a substantive movement to stop him and his evil racist minions from trying to take over our country.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 11:39 PM


Posted by: Iowatreasures | May 15, 2008 11:32 PM

Hillary does not support either of your ideas.

Only "Operation Chaos" (Republican way government) would.

Posted by: Sally | May 15, 2008 11:37 PM

Oh, I forgot to add..in response to this disgusting pummelling of Hillary Clinton I have just sent my first ever donation to a political candidate in my 20 years as a Democrat.

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/home/

P.S. She can still win the nomination if we fight for her! My respect for her has gone up 10 fold after seeing her take such a beating and keep getting back up.

Posted by: g | May 15, 2008 11:36 PM

Mark this date. Tonigt, the first story of the huge movement of women from the Democratic Party aired on FoxNews. They've been ahead of every other network throughout this election. The next big story to hit all networks will be the mass defection of women from the Democratic Party.

Posted by: | May 15, 2008 11:21 PM
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I was going to defect also, but I came up with a better idea. I am going to vote for Hillary Clinton if she is the nominee and I am going to vote for Hillary Clinton if she is not the nominee.

My write-in vote for Hillary will count as one vote, the same as the X checked in the box next to Barack Obama's name.

I will not jump in line, lock-step with the Pied Piper from Chicago, Barack "the finger" Obama.

I saw an older photo where Obama even gave his wife "the finger" when they were at some dinner function. Michelle was so mad and full of hate that she looked like she would explode. Obama was mad, too, as he flipped her off.

I don't want an angry, immature couple in the White House. My write-in vote is my only way of protesting what the DNC aka known as Donna Brazile, and the elitists who control our Democratic Party, and the ones who have thrown our American people under the bus, both black and white.

And for what - power, money and greed. I saw a financial expert say that it is so that our politics has all turned to financial - nothing to do with the people.

There are 17,000,000 of us who love and respect the Clintons, and want Hillary to be elected. Are we going to be pro active, while we have the chance. Can you imagine what would happen if all 17,000,000 of us wrote or called the "leaders" and also voted a write-in vote for Hillary. It would blow them away. gw.

Posted by: Iowatreasures | May 15, 2008 11:32 PM

Back to the good ole days, when "conservative", not "liberal", was the term of derision.

Let's face it. There is NOTHING Carter did to this country that Bush didn't do twice as bad and worse. Failed foreign policy? Loss of respect around the world? Inflation? Oil prices? The economy? Forget those "I never thought I'd miss Nixon" bumper stickers.

I NEVER THOUGHT I'D MISS CARTER!!!

Reagan Democrats will give way to Obama Republicans. Reagan oversaw a recovery on borrowed money, Obama will oversee a recovery by bringing down the debt. Reagan carried out his agenda against a Democratic Congress, Obama will carry out his with a Democratic majority. Reagan won the Cold War, Obama will win the war on terror.

And Republicans will run scared from the label of "conservative", trading it in for "traditional" just as liberals had to shelter under "progressive". They will do anything to avoid being painted with "My opponent has the most conservative voting record in the Senate..." Any Republican lucky enough to be elected president for the next forty years will be strictly one-termers. America will always remember; when Democrats returned from the wilderness, they fixed America. When Republicans returned from the wilderness, they plundered and maimed America. They will be like the Communists in Eastern Europe - a fringe group, occasionally winning elections, but always distrusted, under scrutiny, their crimes always fresh in the minds of the nations they tried to destroy for their venal ends.

Posted by: treetopflyer | May 15, 2008 11:29 PM

Gee doesn't this board have a moderator. I thought this was the Washington Post.

Posted by: C. Smith | May 15, 2008 11:27 PM

We, as voters, can make any candidate insignificant. What the arrogant neophyte Barack Obama and his mafioso David Axelrod failed to factor into their grab for power is the backlash they are about to experience from the millions of women who have waited for Hillary Clinton to run for president.

****indeed. Did they think we wouldn't notice the first female ever to get this close to the Presidency get pummelled and beaten down by not only the press but by biased high ranking members of the party? To add insult to injury they did this to the EXPERIENCED QAULIFUED CANDIDATE to instead throw their loyalty behind a crazy insane racist that has no chance of winning the US presidency!

they have no clue what is in store for them after this...

Posted by: g | May 15, 2008 11:25 PM

Mark this date. Tonigt, the first story of the huge movement of women from the Democratic Party aired on FoxNews. They've been ahead of every other network throughout this election. The next big story to hit all networks will be the mass defection of women from the Democratic Party.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 11:21 PM

Good grief.

svreader can rename itself anything it wants to here.

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 11:15 PM

This is shaping up to be the biggest Dem sweep in a long time. The War issue is now poking up, Bush has lower rating than Nixxon, a 20 point Dem margin of registered Voters. WINNING in GOP strong holds, all adds backfiring on GOP.

I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO HAPPY

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 11:11 PM

Bye, bye and good riddance from Mary O'Bryan, Louisville, KY, to my former party, no matter what happens in the primaries left to come.
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Mary, my sister, I am with you as are millions of us. I think the entire country is about to find that out. We, as the top consumers, can make any company insignificant (those that support MSNBC, CNN, and NBC), all we need is a boycott.
We, as voters, can make any candidate insignificant. What the arrogant neophyte Barack Obama and his mafioso David Axelrod failed to factor into their grab for power is the backlash they are about to experience from the millions of women who have waited for Hillary Clinton to run for president.

He and the DNC may steal that from us after we gather most of the popular vote, but we will have revenge.

Posted by: IAMWOMAN | May 15, 2008 11:09 PM

After reading all the racial diatribe here, I'll now go and have a shower, glass of scotch and lament the future of this country. May your god go with you.

Posted by: Jim | May 15, 2008 11:09 PM

http://www.obamaunveiled.com

OMG. OBAMA SUPPORTERS THIS IS A MUST READ! YOU REALLY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS GUY.

Posted by: g | May 15, 2008 11:09 PM

Some of you are so angry. Go take a Zanax or something. geesh.

Hillary lost the primary. Deal with it. By saying, "I'm voting for McCain" you prove that you never were a true liberal to begin with, so who needs you?

Go to the Republicans. Join the dark side and see where it gets you. You will get the government you deserve.


Hillary lost because true liberals know the truth: She never stood up to Bush all those years. Sure, she talked a good game once in a while, but when it came time to vote on legislation that mattered, she most often voted with Bush.

Need examples? Patriot Act, No Child Left Behind, the WAR IN IRAQ (big screwup that she's yet to admit), and the REAL ID act that puts Big Brother in our driver's license and a microchip in our passports.

And when it came time for the bankruptcy bill that was horrible to the working class? She didn't vote. Skipped it. That wasn't a simply piece of legislation. It was major, and the working class needed her to vote against it.

She is responsible for the death of four thousand U.S. soldiers. SHE IS.

I cannot forgive that. I will NEVER cast a vote for someone who supported that war, and that included Edwards. At least he admitted it was a mistake, but it's still not good enough. It was a mistake that killed tens of thousands of people.

Hillary KNEW better. She had to. I'm just a teacher, a regular guy with no security clearance and I KNEW the "threat" of Saddam was a lie. He was broke, his country was under constant surveliance and embargo. For ten years he was kept completely under control by Bush Sr. and Clinton.

And out of nowhere he's a threat? Did any of you really fall for that? Were you that blinded by the emotions from September Eleventh?

Grow up, America.

Obama IS the only hope we have.

Sure, we don't really know who he is, but we know who he's not: A War Pig.

Hillary and McCain are.

But, hey, put her on the VP ticket. She'll be completely harmless and her voters might decide not to be come backstabbin' Republicans afterall.

Here's a joke: What do you call a a Hillary fan on a college campus?

The janitor.

Posted by: Mike of Atlanta | May 15, 2008 11:08 PM

Its strange to see Hillary supporting posts still being submitted!

She is done - she just needs to try to recover a little cash, and do what she can to lay down a road for her remaining supporters to move to Obama.

Posted by: Franky | May 15, 2008 11:08 PM

The comment by pseudonym John McCain made me laugh. Who is he to call Obama an idiot? The man cannot even spell. Where are you from ? WV?

Posted by: Mike | May 15, 2008 10:59 PM

where's _your_ intelligent comment, response..

alice?

Posted by: and | May 15, 2008 10:59 PM

chris: how about some moderation on this blog? in any sense of the word? Most of the people posting here seem in some psychological difficulty

Posted by: alex | May 15, 2008 10:57 PM

was that small enough for your,

to fit on your blackberry ?


what a 'poner

Posted by: hello ben | May 15, 2008 10:54 PM

you're right, I should make little tiny posts that your little tiny brains can handle...


here's one...

Obama can't handle the job.


Edwards is a "populist,"

neither one of them can tell the difference between a friend and an enemy, they don't have that level of personal sophistication...


they seek approval.

if they get in, AMERICA's way of life is dead...

they lack sophistication and saavy at the world level...

maybe Amercrombie and Fitch can use them in a jeans ad.

Hillary, is really the only candidate offered at this point, capable of leading us out of the swamp.

but you know that, which is why you are trying to prevent that from happening...

CIA BACKED REPUBLICKSCAMMERS...

Posted by: grow up toads... | May 15, 2008 10:52 PM

Women have been messed over for many years by the Democrat Party and it appears that millions of "US" will be returning the favor, should this primary season continue on its current path. Hillary Clinton is clearly the best choice to be our party's nominee for President. As a life-long Democrat, age 55, I think the way my party has hosed Hillary and their most loyal and largest voting block; women intolerable. I am confident the Democrat Party will pay a severe price for this blatant assault on women in November. Cry all you want about this being "sour grapes" but little good will result from your on-going efforts to rally Hillary's staunch supporters around your chosen candidate instead of the people's choice. Now, the Democrat Party leaders want women to get their pre- selected from the start, elite, wimp, Barack Obama elected in November. It will be cold day in hell before I comply and I also hope Hillary walks away from this Party. Most of the women, and many men as well, with whom I have contact are finished with the Democrat Party, now and forever. Also, many of "US" are starting a grassroots movement to insure these kind of sorry tactics employed by my now soon to be former party, never happen again. This clear favoring of Obama, making him the nominee because the party doesn't want a woman, especially a Clinton woman, is more that I can tolerate. Of all the gall, the Democrat Party now expects "US" girls, including Hillary, to turn over our undying support to Obama. Sorry guys, this is not going to happen. Obama has no shot of winning in November without Hillary's help and all of us, her supporters. Not on your life or in your wildest dreams is this going to happen. Democrat Party leaders take heed and you superdelegates had better wait to declare your support until the final results of all the primaries are tallied and the voices of all 50 states and territories are heard from. At that time, the real nominee of the people can be declared for the fall election. Let it be known that the damage has already been done to the largest voting block in America. However, it remains to be seen how deep these "bitterly disappointing and highly blatant attacks" are to women. In my mind, this is a travesty and affects all women of America. I for one will change my registration to Independent, and possibly Republican, on the day I vote for Hillary Rodham Clinton in the KY primary. Bye, bye and good riddance from Mary O'Bryan, Louisville, KY, to my former party, no matter what happens in the primaries left to come.

Posted by: Mary O'Bryan | May 15, 2008 10:51 PM

Arrest Karl Rove, Congress and stick him in the cell under the floor if crooked justice department will not exercise its supeana. Use the Marshall arrest the CROOK

Posted by: | May 15, 2008 10:33 PM
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Karl's, Cheney's, and Bush's time will come soon, but lets wait until Obama is in, so they get real trials....and not pardoned! I suggest they wait to outlaw waterboarding until after these terrorists are processed.

Posted by: Franky | May 15, 2008 10:41 PM

Dem use the RAGE do not lose it, hold it keep it, over 4,000 young men dead for bad reasons, incompetitance, Bush could not even stop Golfing like he promised to sacrifice for troops. MILLIONS for Halepertion, Black Rock, TORTURE in Irag Prisions, TORTURE in OUR PRISONS, 30,000 INJURED, Record FORECLOSER, Dollar 50% DEVAULED,

RAGE I SAY HOLD USE IT

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 10:41 PM

talk to me boyz.... or wind up exposed.

there are about

40 PERCENT REPULSIVE SCAMMERS posting here,


working their "magic" aka _l_i_e_ ing "as a position"


the information that they sell you is name calling innuendo and outright lies and attempts to link with republick scammer crimes...


HILLARY, do please


keep calling a spade a spade...it works to help reveal the truth, make it visible.


duh bama man, he has "let stand" the repulsive scammers lies being used against you, and he has used them as well...


he didn't say the lies weren't true...


he used the 16 years of hate poured out against THE CLINTONS through the CIA based republick scamming propaganda mill...


why ????? because it made his life easier...


why do the republick scammers hate "the Clintons" so....why do vampires hate the sun, why does Liberty Valance hate Jimmy Stewart, why does crime hate justice....

because their true relation to their existence means that they will be held responsible for who they are, in simple people speak...


"the Clintons" make the scum visible....MLK made rascism visible...


THE CLINTONS ARE THE ONLY DEMOCRATS TO HAVE HELD THEIR OWN AGAINST THE REPUBLICAN, CIA BASED


HATE MACHINE...that could not stop them...

JFK could not stop it....Bobby Kennedy could not stop it, Jimmy Carter was bxxx fxxxed by it...


now that Hillary, is using a little pointed comments of her own


THE REPUBLICANS here, are asking her to tone it down


for the sake of the party....right...


like they asked Al GORE to not contest the vote count in FLORIDA


they said that he was selfish and dividing the country.


was he?


What would AMERICA be like if Carter had had two terms?


I Al Gore had had two terms?????


ENERGY PROBLEMS????


no, none....


outsourcing would never have happened


and we would be enjoying European style cities instead of crime and depression...


AMERICA would still be the most respected nation on earth


and the TRILLIONS of dollars being poured in to WAR PROFITEERING HOUSEHOLDS and OVERSEAS would be being used to


upgrade AMERICA....vis a vis infrastructure programs...


.
____________________________________________________________________


want to help AMERICA come out of it's economic slump...


stop the "war" FRAUD machine...


make the US ECONOMY a matter of NATIONAL SECURITY....


put all contractors in IRAQ, AFGHANISTANT, and the US directly affiliated with the "war" FRAUD effect under GAO GSA aegis...


and examine their books.

PS: "To those of you who post the long boring crap and those who double space. No one is reading your crap. We skip over it."


response: blow me....it's what you do isn't it....I feel your pain FOAD.


.

Posted by: Karl Rove wants to feel my intelligence in his head....sorry fat leper.. | May 15, 2008 10:40 PM

BUT WE HAVE EIGHT YEAR BUSH MCCAIN RAGE TO WORK OFF

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 10:36 PM

Arrest Karl Rove, Congress and stick him in the cell under the floor if crooked justice department will not exercise its supeana. Use the Marshall arrest the CROOK

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 10:33 PM

To those of you who post the long boring crap and those who double space. No one is reading your crap. We skip over it. Go play with yourself. You are just annoying.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 10:31 PM

6 White college Educated

VOTERS FOR OBAMA

two in late 40s

join the OTHER 13,500,000 new dems

GO OBAMA

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 10:31 PM

RAT-The: "The Young and Dumb, here they come! :-("

Must burn you to know that those of us who are the future of this nation are carving a new path away from the fear and hate of our predecessors... and we are looking at those like you and saying,

"The Aged and Jaded, sad how they faded!"

Posted by: The Future is Ours | May 15, 2008 10:30 PM

OBAMA WAVE

JOIN NOW ITS NICE TO BE WITH A WINNER

after all these years of suffering

MAY THE GOP FEEL LIKE I DID

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 10:28 PM

always figured that Obama got the white female vote because they are sexually attracted to him and because they hate their own gender. They are especially malicious to Hillary Clinton who has done huge things to help women (and blacks) in her political career (ironic yes to hate a woman who has spent her whole career helping you). What has Obama done to prove he has done or can do anything he claims?
______________
I agree. I think it's ironic that his book makes it clear he despises them because they idolize him. Oh well, they deserve what they get, which in this case is derision. I'd love to be a fly on the wall when he mocks them to MichelleOmarosaObama.


Posted by: | May 15, 2008 10:06 PM
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Frankly, any white person is being taken for a ride on the Obamatrain. Have you read "Dreams from my Father"? It has got to be the most racist crap a presidential candidate since David Duke has written.

Add that to the 20 years in Wright's church, Michele's comments, her racist thesis, their charitable donations to only black causes, his life spent helping only black people, and his obvious worship of Louis Farrakhan andf Malcolm X and a picture emerges of someone who only cares about black people (if he cares about anyone but himself). That's why the only bills he's passed in the Senate were to give money to Congo and name a post office after an African American.

ABC News did a story tonight about how he helped AAs rip off the government in Illinois. This guy is so racist, his campaign is going to implode trying to hide it.

Posted by: The Truth | May 15, 2008 10:27 PM

Let's do a simple reality check. HRC, ready from day one to address the economic devastation wrought by the Bush regime is $20 Million in debt and can not meet the payroll of her staff. She started the campaign with $150 Million from the Fat Cat Party Power Brokers, Lobbyists, and Special Interest Parasites who viewed her as a "sure thing". Meanwhile, Barack entered the contest facing the corronation of HRC and now has $40 Million in the bank, no debt, and 1.5 Million online donors pumping $40 plus million per month into his campaign. HRC's tapped out her big money early and then shifted to a race baiting desperate effort to appeal to white trash, bigots. Guess what, these racist inbred morons don't have any money, much less having a clue to what " www.hillaryclinton.com" even is. It is over, Bosina Gas Tax Holiday, Shot Slugging Phoney. It is time for you, the Blue Dress Big Dog, and your little smirking Hedge Fund Daughter to do the world a favor, and crawl back under the porch. Good riddance.

Posted by: Robert Luciano | May 15, 2008 10:26 PM

talk to me boyz.... or wind up exposed.

there are about

40 PERCENT REPULSIVE SCAMMERS posting here,


working their "magic" aka _l_i_e_ ing "as a position"


the information that they sell you is name calling innuendo and outright lies and attempts to link with republick scammer crimes...


HILLARY, do please


keep calling a spade a spade...it works to help reveal the truth, make it visible.


duh bama man, he has "let stand" the repulsive scammers lies being used against you, and he has used them as well...


he didn't say the lies weren't true...


he used the 16 years of hate poured out against THE CLINTONS through the CIA based republick scamming propaganda mill...


why ????? because it made his life easier...


why do the republick scammers hate "the Clintons" so....why do vampires hate the sun, why does Liberty Valance hate Jimmy Stewart, why does crime hate justice....

because their true relation to their existence means that they will be held responsible for who they are, in simple people speak...


"the Clintons" make the scum visible....MLK made rascism visible...


THE CLINTONS ARE THE ONLY DEMOCRATS TO HAVE HELD THEIR OWN AGAINST THE REPUBLICAN, CIA BASED


HATE MACHINE...that could not stop them...

JFK could not stop it....Bobby Kennedy could not stop it, Jimmy Carter was bxxx fxxxed by it...


now that Hillary, is using a little pointed comments of her own


THE REPUBLICANS here, are asking her to tone it down


for the sake of the party....right...


like they asked Al GORE to not contest the vote count in FLORIDA


they said that he was selfish and dividing the country.


was he?


What would AMERICA be like if Carter had had two terms?


I Al Gore had had two terms?????


ENERGY PROBLEMS????


no, none....


outsourcing would never have happened


and we would be enjoying European style cities instead of crime and depression...


AMERICA would still be the most respected nation on earth


and the TRILLIONS of dollars being poured in to WAR PROFITEERING HOUSEHOLDS and OVERSEAS would be being used to


upgrade AMERICA....vis a vis infrastructure programs...


.
____________________________________________________________________


want to help AMERICA come out of it's economic slump...


stop the "war" FRAUD machine...


make the US ECONOMY a matter of NATIONAL SECURITY....


put all contractors in IRAQ, AFGHANISTANT, and the US directly affiliated with the "war" FRAUD effect under GAO GSA aegis...


and examine their books.


Posted by: Karl Rove wants to feel my intelligence in his head....sorry fat leper... | May 15, 2008 10:26 PM

you can't reason with crabgrass


or ticks,


you have to get rid of them...


do that and success will be a lot more easy to come by...


make O bama debate you.


call him out as a coward...


and cut some republican hamstring...


get someone to go publick about the bush family


"gayness,"


do it.


.
continuing:


growup and takethem down, any way, any how...


just doit.


actually,


what "the good guys," need to understand is that


being a pxxxy is also needing to be "approved of,"


Karl Rove, George W. Bush, George H.W. Bush, Trent Lott, Ken Mehlman Head of the Republican National Committee...


are all GAY FUDGE PACKERS, that regularly


GO DOWN ON EACH OTHER and adminster mouth-to-mouth to the


ONE EYED SNAKE, or as Jack Nickaulson called the ONE-EYED-STIFF-ONE


it's what they do for fun.


and yet they still needed to win, so they used HOMOPHOBIA


the one thing that they had been fighting their entire lives,


to buttfxxx


the ignorant masses.


THEY, "the evil ones," are not afraid to use what work...


while you, "the good guys,"


let yourselves be put "in place," by the evil ones when _they_don't_approve_of_you_


who gives a flying fxxx if the evil ones approve of you or not...


wanna win, say "that yes that's right I am a ball breaker," that's why you need to have me talking to PUTIN


instead of that wuss, Obama....or McCain, who asked someone that he hates Jerry Fallwell and Pat Robertson for their blessing because


he _is_ a panderer...


you, "good guys," have decided you can only stand in places were people


"approve of you,"


while the REPUBLICK SCAMMERS RUN the table using dirty tricks...


want to end the "dirty tricks," ?????


don't be afraid of using them or talking aobut them...


you want to be the "fairy princess," and win ???? good fxxxing lock ho


want to be Xena and win ????? There's a much better chance of success...


rest assured, CORPORATOCRACY DOES NOT WANT HILLARY TO WIN...because they are stupid...


they're inherited wealthy, they don't have the sense to understand that "power over," is done and finished in a time of limited resources...


the population is TOO HIGH


to allow "power over," to make the decisions for "the people," those fudge packers can't think past their own


puny, fat bellied "hard ones"


they need to have their "hard ones," cut off and


fed to the pigs.


get real, cut 'em.


. there's a learning process to go through...


being a winner allows you to set the rules next go 'round....


be a winner...

Posted by: president lincoln.... | May 15, 2008 10:23 PM

thanks for verifying that for me...


the current DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE is knee deep in IRAN CONTRA CO DEFENDANT friendships....


CRONYism.


"John Michael McConnell, the retired vice admiral slated to become America's new top spy, [has some] longtime associations [which] may cause him headaches during Senate confirmation hearings," Newsweek.com notes."One such tie is with another former Navy admiral, John Poindexter, the IRAN CONTRA DEFENDANT, convicted of multiple felons, and pardoned by the current president by electoral frauds' father.....George H.W. Bush, figure who started the controversial 'Total Information Awareness' program at the Pentagon in 2002."

On February 13, 2002, Americans were warned that our nation was facing the threat of danger to homeland security. Three hours later it happened, but nobody told America.

That day, John M. Poindexter was appointed Director of the Pentagon's Information Awareness Office.


Meet America's New Big Brother

Who's John Poindexter?
A retired Navy Admiral, John Poindexter lost his job as National Security Adviser under Ronald Reagan, and was convicted of conspiracy, lying to Congress, defrauding the government, and destroying evidence in the Iran Contra scandal. [1]

What's the Information Awareness Office (IAO)?

It's a new office created by the Pentagon agency DARPA after 9/11 to gather intelligence through electronic sources like the internet, phone, and fax lines.
Why did John Poindexter get the job?
He was the Vice President of Syntek Technologies, a government contractor.

Syntek and Poindexter worked for years with DARPA to develop Genoa, a surveillance device that's a combination cutting-edge search engine, sophisticated information harvesting program", and a "peer-to-peer" file sharing system. Kind of a military-grade Google/Napster for use in instant analysis of electronic data.

What was Iran-Contra all about?

Iran was holding American hostages. President Reagan said we would not negotiate with terrorists. At the same time, the CIA wanted to support a rebel army in the overthrow of the Nicaraguan government. Congress said no.

So John Poindexter, along with Oliver North and many others, went behind President Reagan's back (supposedly) and sold weapons to the Iranians (illegally), then took the money they made and funneled it to the brutal "Contra" army that they built in Central America (also illegally). See [1]

Read some of the Ollie North / John Poindexter emails that they unsuccessfully tried to destroy
From CNN Interactive

John Poindexter isn't the only Iran-Contra conspirator to be appointed to a high-level position.

More Iran-Contra figures who now hold top government posts....there are six [6] in the WHITEHOUSE....former felons...conspiracists. OH MY !!!!

Why didn't I hear about his appointment on the news?

Very few newspapers and virtually no TV stations announced Poindexter's appointment. Apparently they didn't consider it "newsworthy".


when John Negroponte was made the Director of National Intelligence with the ability to excuse any company from being audited or reporting revenues....


what companies were excluded?


included within those companies were companies that the Whitehouse families profit from? or their families families or CRONYS ????


Halliburton, Bechtel, Carlyle Group, KBR, DynCorp, BLACKWATER


did not have to disclose.


is there any part of this administration that does not scream


___CONFLICT____OF______INTEREST____ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


can we try these thieves and then hang them for each major crime of treason ????


.if convicted of course.

hello boring simpletons..

Posted by: look, I wouldn't be doing this if just one of you had enough brains to be able to tell me what color | May 15, 2008 10:21 PM

The American People have already decide. I love the fact that Hillary wants everyone to vote, but her whole entire premise is to them go to the superdelegates and overturn that vote.

Doesn't anyone else find this problematic. "we want every american to have their say" and then we want to overturn it.

Posted by: Ray | May 15, 2008 10:21 PM

so what's really at stake here ????


people voting for a candidate ???


hardly, the machine is herding the herd...

bush,

he's the fudge packer at the front of the machine...


the photoOP kid,...


if Kerry hadn't taken a dive, we wouldn't be here now...


and if AL GORE had stuck to his guns and demanded that recount...


George W. would be pushing up daisies from a drunk driving accident...


what's

"the election," really all about for the people controlling the United States ???


1. control of about $3 TRILLION DOLLARS in funds


2. control of the COMPLICIT CONGRESS as a business tool

3. control of the Intelligence and Military as a development and planning tool for some families affiliated with those agencies....most obviously through

a. CIA FBI MAFIA bay of pigs
b. CIA Iran Contra drug trafficking
c. CIA Sand Bros, BIG OIL Blackwaterdrugtrafficking y mehico


all categories also have to do with managing perceptions...


Hillary, has been a victim so far of how people have managed others perceptions of her...


she needs to manage her own weather and perceptions...


and start driving some wedges into peoples patella's ,

have ballpeen, willTRAVEL, palladin


want some help ???


call me.


.


Posted by: so what's really at stake here ???? | May 15, 2008 10:20 PM

Great -

Well, Hill-Rod's out. Thank the deities, since I despise all-thangs-Clinton.

Obama is an extreme leftist and hasn't the experience to run the country.

That leaves McCain.

Also, the Dems will tighten their control of Congress, since the Pubs under Bush have punted their integrity.

I do NOT want to see the two branches under the control of one party. So, again, McCain.

And, as I've pointed out, the next prez may appoint 3 Justices. I don't believe in judicial activism (it's against the Constitution) and McCain's more likely to pick constructivists.

Posted by: Chuckamok | May 15, 2008 10:19 PM

Mike McConnel and John Negroponte stuff...


thanks for verifying that for me...


the current DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE is knee deep in IRAN CONTRA CO DEFENDANT friendships....


CRONYism.


"John Michael McConnell, the retired vice admiral slated to become America's new top spy, [has some] longtime associations [which] may cause him headaches during Senate confirmation hearings," Newsweek.com notes."One such tie is with another former Navy admiral, John Poindexter, the IRAN CONTRA DEFENDANT, convicted of multiple felons, and pardoned by the current president by electoral frauds' father.....George H.W. Bush, figure who started the controversial 'Total Information Awareness' program at the Pentagon in 2002."

On February 13, 2002, Americans were warned that our nation was facing the threat of danger to homeland security. Three hours later it happened, but nobody told America.

That day, John M. Poindexter was appointed Director of the Pentagon's Information Awareness Office.


Meet America's New Big Brother

Who's John Poindexter?
A retired Navy Admiral, John Poindexter lost his job as National Security Adviser under Ronald Reagan, and was convicted of conspiracy, lying to Congress, defrauding the government, and destroying evidence in the Iran Contra scandal. [1]

What's the Information Awareness Office (IAO)?

It's a new office created by the Pentagon agency DARPA after 9/11 to gather intelligence through electronic sources like the internet, phone, and fax lines.
Why did John Poindexter get the job?
He was the Vice President of Syntek Technologies, a government contractor.

Syntek and Poindexter worked for years with DARPA to develop Genoa, a surveillance device that's a combination cutting-edge search engine, sophisticated information harvesting program", and a "peer-to-peer" file sharing system. Kind of a military-grade Google/Napster for use in instant analysis of electronic data.

What was Iran-Contra all about?

Iran was holding American hostages. President Reagan said we would not negotiate with terrorists. At the same time, the CIA wanted to support a rebel army in the overthrow of the Nicaraguan government. Congress said no.

So John Poindexter, along with Oliver North and many others, went behind President Reagan's back (supposedly) and sold weapons to the Iranians (illegally), then took the money they made and funneled it to the brutal "Contra" army that they built in Central America (also illegally). See [1]

Read some of the Ollie North / John Poindexter emails that they unsuccessfully tried to destroy
From CNN Interactive

John Poindexter isn't the only Iran-Contra conspirator to be appointed to a high-level position.

More Iran-Contra figures who now hold top government posts....there are six [6] in the WHITEHOUSE....former felons...conspiracists. OH MY !!!!

Why didn't I hear about his appointment on the news?

Very few newspapers and virtually no TV stations announced Poindexter's appointment. Apparently they didn't consider it "newsworthy".


when John Negroponte was made the Director of National Intelligence with the ability to excuse any company from being audited or reporting revenues....


what companies were excluded?


included within those companies were companies that the Whitehouse families profit from? or their families families or CRONYS ????


Halliburton, Bechtel, Carlyle Group, KBR, DynCorp, BLACKWATER


did not have to disclose.


is there any part of this administration that does not scream


___CONFLICT____OF______INTEREST____ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

can we try these thieves and then hang them for each major crime of treason ????


.if convicted of course.


Posted by: hello boring simpletons.. | May 15, 2008 10:17 PM

hey little hosers,


how do you tell a
republick con_ner????

wayell,
to them a rectal thermometer and an anal thermometer are the same thing...


to other people, there's a difference in taste...

shameless is george w. in the whitehouse handing out BJ's while selling homophobia...you gotta lotta nerve BasicInstinct selling your schitt ...

let's keep things in perspective:

Kitty Kelley's 2004 book on the Bush family, George W earned this nickname in the '60s for his skill at giving BJ's to his fraternity brothers. And eventually his clan sent him to some Christian brainwashing program to degay him.

George W. 'Lips' Bush : 1ST Gay US President?


(PHOTO: Sir George H. W. Bush, Sr., whose Skull and Boner nickname is 'Magog,' Knight of the British Empire, hugs Skull & Boner former mayor-ambassador Victor Ashe in Knoxville, Tennessee. Ashe was George Bush Jr's roommate and fellow cheerleader at all-male Yale University and was fired from the Tennessee legislature by the Tennessee Supreme Court for election fraud and perjury in 1974)

Is George W. Bush the first gay president?

Evidence of Bush's non-heterosexual proclivities keeps surfacing. Kitty Kelley's Bush Family expose' "The Family" (2004) had noted George W. Bush's homosexual relationsip with Victor Ashe, the Mayor of Knoxvillle, Tennessee.

Ashe, like Bush, is a member of the Yale University based Order of Skull and Bones, and was later appointed US Ambassador to Poland by Bush in December, 2003, after probes and inquiries by Congress.

George W. Bush, who was the head cheerlader at all-male Phillips Academy in Andover, Massachusetts, as well as cheerleader at all-male Yale University has been quoted as saying, "I want to thank my old college classmate (you used to call him Bulldog, we call him Victor) the Mayor of Knoxville Victor Ashe," at the Van Hilleary for Governor Luncheon, Knoxville, Tennessee, Oct.

Oddly enough the fake reporter/ male prostitute Jeff Gannon was also named "Bulldog" on his gay sex sites like HotMilitaryStud.com, MilitaryEscorts.com and MilitaryEscortsm4m.com.

Pirate News producer John Lee (http://piratenews.org/bushgaygate.html) notes that Bush has other gay nicknames for White House familiars --

* 'Turdblossom' for gay puppeteer Karl Rove.

* 'Pooty Poot' for Vladimir Putin, Russian President and Commie KGB chief.

* 'Mr. Big O' for lispy treasury secretary Paul O'Neill, ex-CEO of ALCOA Corporation in Alcoa, Tennessee.

* 'Sally Suck-em-silly' for the late David Lewis

Kiity Kelley writes that "George earned his fabulous nickname, 'Lips Bush' for his skill at giving BJ's to his fraternity buddies."

Lee, in George Bush's GayGate, writes -- "Why is Bush so hostile to the idea of gay marriage? Perhaps because until 1987, George W. Bush was gay.

"According to a group of 29 Yale classmates who comprise Gay Ivy Leaguers for Truth, Bush was 'known to be at least sexually experimental throughout his time in college.'

"One of Bush's alleged former boyfriends, Anthony Berusca (Class of '70), told The Dallas Morning News that Bush was 'deeply conflicted about being gay, even somewhat self-hating.'

"Berusca is convinced that this conflict led to Bush's drinking problems, but describes the President as a 'gentle, caring lover.'

"In 1986, the Bush family arranged for George to join Worthy Creations, a church group in El Paso that focuses on converting homosexuals through faith.

"A year later, Bush claimed to be straight, born again, and engaged to Laura Welch (Kitty Kelly in "The Family" wrote that Bush's twin daughters were not his offspring, but from a donor at a fertility clinic).

And what is Skull and Bones? An Introduction to the Order of Skull and Bones" (TrineDay.com)

Confession and blackmail are part of the rites of initiation for the Order, as new members must divulge their sexual histories to other Bonesmen, so they will always be compliant in the future.

Senator John F. Kerry of Massachusetts and former President George Herbert Walker Bush are also members of the Order of Skull and Bones.

It was noted that Kerry, allegedly running against fellow Bonesman George Bush Jr. in the 2004 election, rolled over and played dead during most of his "campaign."

The admission of fake reporter/ male prostitute Jeff Gannon (aka James Guckert) to the White House and his unexplained sleepovers have added more evidence to a Gay White House with wags now claiming that GOP stands for 'Gay Old Party.'

After all, even Republican National Committee chair Ken Mehlman is gay.

So when will George Bush come out of the closet?

Don't hold your breath...


well, you know sometimes you have to shuck the shuckers...


you repukes, wanna live "off of the road" and make others "play fair?"


the best way to deal with you is to kick the living scheiss out of you,


and when "y'all fall down," the best thing to do is start kicking them in the face...


mark 'em up...


16 years of Clinton BASHING, the bama taking a ride on it....


Posted by: comfort for the mentally gifted... | May 15, 2008 10:17 PM

g:
"Obama got the white female...sexually attracted...huge things."
What in the devil is going on with you?

Posted by: tanaS | May 15, 2008 10:16 PM

To me, racism is boring and a thing of the past. We are all Americans and we need to stick together or things will get worse than anyone can imagine. Some people don't have as much access to information as others. Obama did not jump on the gas tax holiday thing just to get votes. That has earned him the respect and endorsement of some of our top economists. This is about the economy and the future of our country.

I hope people will take the time to really look into things and keep an open mind. There are a lot of our fellow Americans who are suffering because of this past administration. Let's stick together and move ahead and hopefully be a little more tolerant of the differences between us.

Posted by: springchickennot | May 15, 2008 10:14 PM

The media WANT Hillary Clinton to fight on. Sells newspapers and more hits on the internet.

The women supporters of Hillary want her to fight on... after all, this is a war of sexes, isn' it? Getting a woman president on board is more important than whoever should be the Democrat President.

Blue collar white folks in West Virginia and the Appalachia?- They never change and they don't give a damn what happens to the bigger problems of the country... That is why we are having problems with other nations under George Bush. And thank God, they are the minority in the bigger scheme of things. To them India and China are just bad folks across the other side of the railway track that should be avoided at all costs.

Posted by: Frank | May 15, 2008 10:12 PM

Edwards' endorsement of Obama is truly baffling. Edwards' philosophy is far more liberal than Obama's. I wonder what Edwards was promised for his support?

Though Obama is the lesser of 2 evils, (rather than Hillary,) Obama's voting record is similarly moderately conservative on the order of Hillary (D), Collins (R), Snow (R), & Feinstein (D) which actually equates to nothing less than Republican light.

Perhaps by gaining Edwards' support, Obama is hoping to cement the support of the Liberal wing (which is substantial,) of the Democratic Party.

The problem is that those on the Left have since the days of Nixon, felt that they have been abandoned by the Democratic Party & either do not show up to vote or vote for a 3rd Party candidate like Nader which has had the effect of dragging the Democratic Party ever further toward the Right as it seeks the support of those who vote.

At this late date, it'll take a bit more on Obama's part to show that he is actually willing to support the needs of the Liberal wing of his Party. His voting record belies that. It is after all, actions over words that count.

Posted by: book134 | May 15, 2008 10:10 PM

The media WANT Hillary Clinton to fight on. Sells newspapers and more hits on the internet.

The women supporters of Hillary want her to fight on... after all, this is a war of sexes, isn' it? Getting a woman president on board is more important than whoever should be the Democrat President.

Blue collar white folks in West Virginia and the Appalachia?- They never change and they don't give a damn what happens to the bigger problems of the country... That is why we are having problems with other nations under George Bush. And thank God, they are the minority in the bigger scheme of things. To them India and China are just bad folks across the other side of the railway track that should be avoided at all costs.

Posted by: Frank | May 15, 2008 10:10 PM

Chuck.. Everytime I see the Mccain support it gets me fired up.. You give me hope Chuck

Posted by: Great | May 15, 2008 10:09 PM

i always figured that Obama got the white female vote because they are sexually attracted to him and because they hate their own gender. They are especially malicious to Hillary Clinton who has done huge things to help women (and blacks) in her political career (ironic yes to hate a woman who has spent her whole career helping you). What has Obama done to prove he has done or can do anything he claims?
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I agree. I think it's ironic that his book makes it clear he despises them because they idolize him. Oh well, they deserve what they get, which in this case is derision. I'd love to be a fly on the wall when he mocks them to MichelleOmarosaObama.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 10:06 PM

g:
Aha, the truth why you dislike Obama.
Now is the time for the psyche couch. Why do YOU think that black men want to steal your women? Lost a girlfriend maybe? Unloved by mother? Have a little problem "down there"?

Posted by: tanaS | May 15, 2008 10:06 PM

"I assure you, you will eat those words in November."

How so? I'm voting for McCain. :)

Posted by: Chuckamok | May 15, 2008 10:05 PM

hieian - Hillary has proclaimed that she will do her utmost to promote the party Nominee. Which will certainly be Obama.

Shouldn't her followers follow her example? One would think.

Posted by: Chuckamok | May 15, 2008 10:03 PM

" ... the way the democratic party is treating the first female candidate for president"

Again, sounds like the sour grapes of a sore loser. Get over it.

Posted by: Chuckamok | May 15, 2008 9:55 PM
_______
I assure you, you will eat those words in November. Obama = Mysoginy = President McCain!

Posted by: ChuckSucks | May 15, 2008 10:01 PM

i always figured that Obama got the white female vote because they are sexually attracted to him and because they hate their own gender. They are especially malicious to Hillary Clinton who has done huge things to help women (and blacks) in her political career (ironic yes to hate a woman who has spent her whole career helping you). What has Obama done to prove he has done or can do anything he claims?

Posted by: g | May 15, 2008 10:00 PM

Dem to Ind:
Hello? You there? Hello?

Posted by: tanaS | May 15, 2008 9:59 PM

411

Due to John Edwards' backing Obama, more and more labor unions mostly consisting of blue collar workers are lining up to back and support Obama according to this article:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080515/ap_on_el_pr/unions_democrats

For those that want to whine and complain about Hilary getting the shaft and not wanting to vote for Obama if she doesn't get the nomination, you need to put the needs of this country first in fixing the problems that the past eight years of Bush has done to damage the reputation and progress of this country. Get over your personal hatred for Obama and do something that would benefit the party and this country.

Posted by: hieian | May 15, 2008 9:59 PM

oh L...O...S...T... is on. Mccain baby.. Love that guy

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 9:59 PM

McCain new Energy Plan

Free hay for our horse

and new CINDY McCain goes to REHAP on u-tube

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 9:56 PM

" ... the way the democratic party is treating the first female candidate for president"

Again, sounds like the sour grapes of a sore loser. Get over it.

Posted by: Chuckamok | May 15, 2008 9:55 PM

Almost ten - time to sign off and watch the weekly recap of Hillary's campaign on ABC. It's called "Lost".

Posted by: treetopflyer | May 15, 2008 9:54 PM

Yaa Real Men get shot down and tortured by the RED CHINESE

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 9:54 PM

Anybody wanna bet DEM to IND hasn't read Obama's books?

Posted by: Bemused | May 15, 2008 9:53 PM

Dem to Ind:
Which Obama book did you read? Quick what is the first word on the top of page 123 of his "Dreams From My Father"?

Posted by: tanaS | May 15, 2008 9:53 PM

Then you ain't getting it...just by not voting for Obama, McCain will win.

Bye'Bye' rotten egg Obama. Go back to your racist church and get far more experience before attempting to force yourself on intelligent voters.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 9:52 PM

To the middle aged white woman who didn't leave her name. This is an except from a Rolling Stone article that explains how Obama takes advantage of you.

Then, running preliminary polls, his advisers noticed something remarkable: Women responded more intensely and warmly to Obama than did men. In a seven-candidate field, you don't need to win every vote. His advisers, assuming they would pick up a healthy chunk of black votes, honed in on a different target: Every focus group they ran was composed exclusively of women, nearly all of them white.

There is an amazingly candid moment in Obama's autobiography when he writes of his childhood discomfort at the way his mother would sexualize African-American men. "More than once," he recalls, "my mother would point out: 'Harry Belafonte is the best-looking man on the planet.' " What the focus groups his advisers conducted revealed was that Obama's political career now depends, in some measure, upon a tamer version of this same feeling, on the complicated dynamics of how white women respond to a charismatic black man. "I remember when we realized something magical was happening," says Obama's pollster on the campaign, an earnest Iowan named Paul Harstad. "We were doing a focus group in suburban Chicago, and this woman, seventy years old, looks seventy-five, hears Obama's life story, and she clasps her hand to her chest and says, 'Be still, my heart.' Be still, my heart -- I've been doing this for a quarter century and I've never seen that." The most remarkable thing, for Harstad, was that the woman hadn't even seen the videos he had brought along of Obama speaking, had no idea what the young politician looked like. "All we'd done," he says, "is tell them the Story."

From that moment on, the Story became Obama's calling card, his political rationale and his basic sale. Every American politician has this wrangle he has to pull off, reshaping his life story to fit into Abe Lincoln's log cabin.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 9:51 PM

The way this was done reminds me of the good ole boys taking care of each other. Raining on Senator Clinton's parade. Better be careful....females will be voting for Senator McCain mainly because of the way the democratic party is treating the first female candidate for president.

Posted by: kt | May 15, 2008 9:51 PM

I am so glad that there are so many anti-Obama folks

Prepare for the stinky feeling like I have had since Bush was ELECETED

I am still suffering but the dark cloud of Bush Cheney is lifting

Sorry I know what you will go thru.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 9:51 PM

"Everyone says Obama has little experience.What about Clinton? What are her accomplishments, besides being first lady?"

Kiki, she named several post offices. Show the lady some respect, huh?

Posted by: treetopflyer | May 15, 2008 9:50 PM

Tana S,
We are HILLARY Clinton supporters. So please, knock off the ridiculous Repbublican stuff. And the "RACIST" claim you make to us; PLEASE put your money where your mouth is! BUY OBAMA'S BOOKS! And then you will see that Wright's hate of this country and White Americans and Italians and Jews and "eurochristians" are ALL shared By Obama. They are written out VERY CLEARLY in HIS books in HIS OWN words. And he also says that one of the books was titled and "INSPIRED" by a Wright sermon. America has NO place for anyone with these kind of viewpoints trying to be the "AMERICAN" President and much less, running on a campaign of "unity." I now know that he has no idea what this word means. He is an embarrassement to anyone that beleives in equality and America. No, no vote here. No, no unity here. And selling boats in the desert to anyone that will listen and buy, will not change who he really is and what he, himself, has written that he stands for.

Posted by: DEM to IND | May 15, 2008 9:49 PM

I know 'g'. The Dems are so corrupt that lil' ole' you just has to vote for the nominee of the party whose legislation speech and behavior defines the word 'corrupt'.

Posted by: tanaS | May 15, 2008 9:48 PM

yeah chuck.. Mccain baby

Posted by: yeah | May 15, 2008 9:47 PM

"O'Reilly had on two female Hillary backers. A brown one from PA and a pink one from OH."

THANK YOU for getting it right. Though personally I prefer "conch shell". ;-)

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 9:47 PM

OBAMA 08

Be there of be square

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 9:46 PM

"Baracky Baby is going down!"

Oh, I agree. I'm voting for McCain.

Yes, I'm a card-carrying Clinton Hater (and we get discounts with Alamo Rent-a-Car and Clarion Hotels).

Posted by: Chuckamok | May 15, 2008 9:46 PM

OBAMA WEBB

WE NEED A REDNECK ON THE TICKER

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 9:44 PM

Hillary sucks.

Posted by: JakeD | May 15, 2008 9:44 PM

g:
Stop being so lazy. Sure you wrote using numerous aliases but for God's sake don't be so lazy that you hit just one key for a name. The McSame campaign is paying you a wage to post on these blogs.

****wouldn't you like to beleive that? Did you really think that no one would notice the way Hillary Clinton has been treated? I am certainly not the only one that will be responding to such injustice the way any good Democrat must. Remember, we are the party that fights injustice and corruption? There will be no support for Obama for multiple reasons.

Posted by: g | May 15, 2008 9:44 PM

Clinton is so nice to Obama these days

maybe he will pick her

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 9:42 PM

"Thank You | May 15, 2008 9:11 PM" :

Don't be too concerned about svreader.

When I looked at some of his/her posts from 2007, he/she admitted to having been a lifelong conservative Republican who voted for Al Gore and loves him.

So who knows what fantasy life svreader will be in tomorrow. Maybe a McCain supporter, maybe a third party supporter or maybe a non-voter.

Or maybe svreader will get into his/her imaginary "Prius" and drive off into his/her fantasy life in the Silicon Valley.

It sure has been entertaining.

Posted by: svbreeder | May 15, 2008 9:42 PM

"...dissing the largest voting block in the Democratic Party will do ..."

Very clever. Hill-Rod and BubbaJeff can dis the black voters and try to twist the "rules" to favor themselves ... but that's okay?

Posted by: | May 15, 2008 9:11 PM
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Nice Try. If you think there aren't more of us in more places, you are in for a shock. The DNC may have fallen for you and Clyburn and all your threats, but they failed to take us seriously.

Most of you are in southern states that we will not win anyway. We are everywhere and we can control the election. Just watch and learn. Baracky Baby is going down!

Posted by: Seeker | May 15, 2008 9:41 PM

omg.. This whole Edwards thing made me even lose more respect for Democrats. Big surprise he decides to support Obama at the last minute when he looks like he is going to win the nomination.
We all know he wanted Hillary in Office not Obama. Democrats calling for an Obama Edwards ticket.. Come on Democrats.. You people are sad.. If you really wanted the win you would have pushed for Hilary. She is actually a highly intelligent woman and I respect a lot of the things that she has done. Obama on the other hand. Ummm,, oh yeah he hasn't done jack. How is he qualifed to be President again???

Posted by: OMG | May 15, 2008 9:41 PM

MCCAIN IS SO STUPID


HE SAY OBAMA IS APPEASING IRAN

WHICH MEANS GIVING AWAY SOMETHING

NOT TALKING TO THEM

IS HE AS DUMB AS BUSH

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 9:41 PM

CONGRESS

ABOUT TO ARREST KARL ROVE

BUSH DOES NOT KNOW WHAT APPEASEMENT MEANS

IT MEANS GIVING AWAY LAND

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 9:40 PM

Sorry that I'm so dumb that I can't spell hear when I mean the auditory sense; so I write here instead.

Posted by: John Mccain | May 15, 2008 9:38 PM


Edwards:

F you back stabber!

Did you forget when right after his heart bypass surgery President Bill Clinton came to rally for you and that dope John Kerry?

I was your biggest supporter and raised nearly $20,000 for your campaign. Now I see what a mistake. You are empty and heartless.

Go ahead and such up Hussein Obama's a--.


http://www.obamaunveiled.com

Posted by: Nancy | May 15, 2008 9:38 PM

g, you must be one of those "bitter" individuals Obama was on about.

Whew, what a tirade!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 9:38 PM

GOP ADDS

AGAINST OBAMA WIFE

FROM SCUMBACK GOP

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 9:38 PM

GOP PICKS ON MICHEAL OBAMA

IN KY

WOMEN BEATER GOP

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 9:37 PM

GO OBAMA

134 to Nomination
230 Supers
289 Elected left
51 del KY 52 OR

Go KY GO OR

YOU CAN WRAP IT UP WITH THE HELP OF FEW MORE SUPERS

go OBAMA

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 9:36 PM

Obama is a disgrace and everyday i here a black person say I gotta vote for Obama because he is black. Please tell me why anyone would support a race like this?? They are so racist and it is so obvious, yet we hide from the truth. I am so sick and tired that only white people can be racist in this world. 100% I will be voting for Mccain. Obama offers nothing to this country. I mean he is a coward. He backed down from debates with Hillary, he wouldn't sit in on an interview with Bill O'reilly because he knows that he is not that smart and will get burned everytime..Bottom line, the guy is an idiot. I just cannot believe that democrats are going to give him the nomination.. Shame on you America

Posted by: John Mccain.. Yippie Kye Yeh | May 15, 2008 9:35 PM

kiki - I agree, HRC's claims of experience are just another Clintonian smoke-and-mirrors fabrication.

I'm sure the Pub ad-meisters will be chagrined - not being able to use a split screen of Hill-Rod strolling across that tarmac in Tuzla and her campaign story of dodging sniper fire and running to the limos.

In fact, I'm gonna miss that myself. :)

Posted by: Chuckamok | May 15, 2008 9:35 PM

Everyone says Obama has little experience.What about Clinton? What are her accomplishments, besides being first lady? Obnoxious hypocrite with unpleasant voice and looks. She said she wanted to be just a worker. I think she should not have changes her mind.

Posted by: kiki | May 15, 2008 9:22 PM
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Well, Kiki, let's just say she held a full-time job long before Obama did. His first full time job was when he joined the US Senate in 2005. His Illinois job was part-time. And would you like to discuss what a "street organizer" is? Would you really? It's a Saul Alinsky street person. It's not a paying job, butr one where the person lives on handouts. Now mind you, Obama went to Harvard Law and voluntarily went back from whence he came to be a street bum.

So, since Obama got to the senate he has solely sponsored and passed two bills. One to help the Congo and one to name a post office. Please enlighten me as to what makes him presidential material?

Posted by: The Truth | May 15, 2008 9:33 PM

g:
Stop being so lazy. Sure you wrote using numerous aliases but for God's sake don't be so lazy that you hit just one key for a name. The McSame campaign is paying you a wage to post on these blogs.

Posted by: tanaS | May 15, 2008 9:33 PM

"G" has got it wrong. He can win, and has won, more states than HR Clinton. He out polls Hillary among Democrats nationwide - CNN's national poll has Obama at 49% to Clinton's 42%. Obama does better than Clinton in a match-up against McCain as well in recent polling: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/map/polling/

What also maters for the general election is that Obama has had stronger appeal with independent voters than Clinton. The Dems likely vote Dem, and so independents are it goes without saying important. Another factor is how much a candidate can excite voters. McCain is not exciting to many Republicans - a good thing as apathy results in lower voter turn out. Obama has moved vast numbers of people to contribute to the campaign a sign that they are willing to work to get him elected, buy in as a part of it. It's not decisive, but those folks are not likely to be apathetic come election day.

Finally, the better educated heavily favor Obama. That the functionally literate and critical thinkers of the population are for Obama and favor him as the person to lead us all regardless of education or income to a better state of the union is certainly some critical populist vetting that goes to who the better candidate is.

Posted by: TJP | May 15, 2008 9:32 PM

Dems RECORDS

NEW REGISTERED VOTERS NET + 13,500,000
GOP - 2,000,000
DEMS 53% register
GOP 32%

GO OBAMA

GO DEM WAVE

We got the DESIRE We GOT THE NUMBERS

WAY TO GO MISS, LOUISIANA, IL

ROCK THE GOP STRONGHOLDS

Posted by: Dems Rule | May 15, 2008 9:31 PM

Dem or Ind for Hillary - OK, I see you're passionate about what you believe.

But the POTUS is for four years, the SCOTUS is forever (something I think needs changing).

Obama's inexperience may actually work in favor of the Dem-run Congress. They'll probably be able to tell HIM what to do.

Posted by: Chuckamok | May 15, 2008 9:28 PM

O'Reilly had on two female Hillary backers. A brown one from PA and a pink one from OH.

Both threatened to leave the party if Hillary loses. They claim their gender has been "insulted" by party leaders and the press. But when pressed for an example they couldn't give one.

Bill missed his opportunity to ask about the three SCOTUS members the next president is likely to choose. Do women really want three more conservatives up there? Roe vs Wade - poof!

*****I'll answer that for you since I am among those long time Dems who will not vote for the Obama corruption. I plan on writing in Hills name on the ballot if the current corruption succeeds in railroading her out of the nomination. I am not concerned about McCain getting the Presidency and subsequent damage to the US since:
McCain would be blocked by the Dem House and Senate.
McCain is actually pro-choice and has been for a long time.
McCain is a closet Democrat.

I think we need to set a very important president by not voting for this Obama guy.

Why?

The media has attempted to force us to vote for him.

The media has bashed Hillary Clinton.

Woman hating must not be allowed to slide.

Obama scares us on a national security level. In his book he claims he must support Muslims and he has ties to Hamas.

Obama has run a rude arrogant campaign and his supporters have been monsters. THE AUDACITY TO DEMAND THAT CLINTON SHOULD DROP OUT OF A DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY ELECTION BEFORE IT IS OVER!

We will not be bullied or told who to vote for.

To fight injustice and corruption. (They are actually suggesting that my FL vote for Clinton should get divided in half with Obama!) DISENFRANCHISEMENT OF MY VOTE!

To allow the DNC to learn that they do not control us and that by throwing the Clintons under the bus (whom have done so much for us over the years as loyal Democrats)... that they have disgusted the very core of the Democratic Party.

To thwart the idea that the candidate with the most money must win. (We suspect he has paid off much of the DNC and made back room deals.) And where did he get all that money from so suddenly? Always suspect the person who has the most money. You know the Republicans have always had way more money than the Democrats.

Hillary is the best candidate and the only candidate that ever has a chance of winning the general election.

I would like to tell "told ya so" when Obama loses BUT I still think Hillary will win the nomination when the press stops worshipping this guy in the next few weeks and his campaign unravels when some serious dirt comes out on him.

...if it smells like a rotten egg (Obama)...we must throw it out. It is our duty to stop blatant corruption as Democrats.

Posted by: g | May 15, 2008 9:27 PM

Apparently the McSame bloggers are hitting the boards early. These crackpots are not Hillary supporters. They're men who have been trained in the Rovian tradition. They are mean little racist jerks spreading false rumors about Obama.

Posted by: tanaS | May 15, 2008 9:27 PM

Seeker -- I'm a middle aged white woman and I've supported Sen.Obama since last Fall. I'm going to invite you to use the Summer to investigate the positions of Sen. McCain and Sen. Obama, listen to Sen. Clinton's advice and reflect on the true impact of a McCain administration. Nobody can relieve your disappointment, but nobody should have to look back (like the Nader supporters in 2000) and feel responsible for the further assault on our country for vengeance sake.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 9:24 PM

Countdown to Nomination
132 to 2025

LATE 40s White Family 5 Voters for OBAMA
i ron paul

Posted by: Delegate Math | May 15, 2008 9:22 PM

What I will not do is cede this COUNTRY to a black David Duke with no experience, no judgement and absolutely NO allegience to this country. I have given this man the benefit of the doubt over and over again. Now I have read his books that are HIS WORDS! Never would I vote for him to run this country. I am a Democrat, but I am an American first. And I am proud of my country!

Posted by: Dem to Ind | May 15, 2008 9:22 PM

WHAT A BUNCH OF SICK WACKO'S. WHY DON'T WE ALL STOP FIGHTING AND JOIN FORCES FOR WHOEVER WINS THE NOMINATION? WHITE, BLACK, WOMAN, OR MAN, IT'S THE POLITICAL IDEAS THAT COUNT. HILLARY AND BARACK HAVE THE SAME POLITICAL IDEAS, SO ANYONE WHO WON'T VOTE FOR EITHER OF THEM BECAUSE THEIR FAVORITE LOSES THE PRIMARY, MUST BE A STINKING DIRTY RACIST. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE, WE ARE ALL CREATED EQUAL, AND WE WILL NOT SURVIVE UNLESS WE JOIN TOGETHER.

Posted by: ALDO | May 15, 2008 9:22 PM

Everyone says Obama has little experience.What about Clinton? What are her accomplishments, besides being first lady? Obnoxious hypocrite with unpleasant voice and looks. She said she wanted to be just a worker. I think she should not have changes her mind.

Posted by: kiki | May 15, 2008 9:22 PM

"The Young and Dumb, here they come! :-("

I'm afraid you are sadly mistaken. It's remarkable how ignorant people like yourself are. They cling onto their petty fears and differences because they can't accept the truth. The young are more educated... and that broader education makes us more accepting and diverse. If you honestly can't see through McCain's worthless campaign then you are truly blind.
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Actually, you just think you're educated. That somehow gives you a sense of supremacy which is very misguided. But, then youth itself is inherently misguided. You haven't lived long enough to know crap about crap and certainly not to choose a president.

Your education pales in relation to that of people even in third world countries and the hatemongering that is endemic of your campaign is a manifestation of that lack of education.

You are pathetic cultish creatures who one could almost feel sorry for, if you weren't so downright evil. You and your evil racist, anti-American leader will be exposed and swept into the dustbin of history where you belong.

Posted by: The Truth | May 15, 2008 9:19 PM

Dem or Ind for Hillary - so you'll cede the selection of the next three Justices to McCain?

Posted by: Chuckamok | May 15, 2008 9:16 PM

Almost all of the contests are already over! So who are the "voters" you are talking about? He had very few to begin with. And that is why he dropped out. And as far as Endorsements, we did NOT vote for Edwards, we voted for Hillary. So this endorsement means nothing to sway her supporters to Obama. Obama has little experience and even less judgement. And the only endorsement that counts is the vote of the American people. And if Obama is the nominee, he will hear from us loud and clear in Novemeber, NO WAY!

Posted by: Dem or Ind for Hillary | May 15, 2008 9:14 PM

Very soon, Hillary will concede. She put up a great fight.

Just remember, we Obama supporters will welcome you with open arms.

You have been highly entertaining. Let me thank....

..... Svreader, Iowatreasures...

and the rest of the Hillary gang..for the fun!

Posted by: Thank You | May 15, 2008 9:11 PM

"...dissing the largest voting block in the Democratic Party will do ..."

Very clever. Hill-Rod and BubbaJeff can dis the black voters and try to twist the "rules" to favor themselves ... but that's okay?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 9:11 PM

>>

Problem with that is the odds are very high that nominating Obama will result in the election of McCain.

The FBI has been investigating a large number of Obama's political and campaign finance ... friends for 3-4 years now. The main one being Rezko. According to multiple witnesses testifying at Rezko's trial - he was involved in lot of extortion, bribery, illegal campaign funding, political corruption. IF the FBI investigation turned up any evidence that Obama was dirty too, then do you suppose Bush/Cheney, the Republican Party would remain ... unaware ... of that evidence?

The behavior of FOX news provides us with a Clue. All their "news" people began the campaign season last November spewing non-stop Obama boosting & praise; continued doing so for months. (Leading reasonable people to believe, FOX/Republicans are trying to HELP Obama get the nomination because they believe they can beat him.)

Then, right after THE MEDIA first PROCLAIMED Obama the nominee (several weeks ago) ... the FOX people began to criticize Obama re: the Reverend Wright etc.. But, they have continued to ... hold back ... on damning him.

FOX appears to be waiting for Obama to ACTUALLY get the nomination before they begin serving up the Real Dirt on him; along with the usual slime and smear, of course.

Posted by: elme | May 15, 2008 9:09 PM

rahmmonster:
No, it is not racist to vote for someone with whom one shares an identity.
All ethnic groups for the past 200 years have voted for their nominee. The Irish voted for another Irishman; Germans voted for their candidates; Italians voted for mayoral candidate La Gaurdia in the 1930s.
But it IS racist to vote against someone because he or she is white, black, Irish, German, etc.

Posted by: sorrythechaosthingfailed | May 15, 2008 9:09 PM

I am so glad that we the voters are very smart and intelligent. They thought that just because someone like Edwards will change the voice of the people. We the voters knew best. We love our country so much that our votes are not going to be for sale or be intimidated by anyone. Our country need someone who has the experience and not someone that just because he his being endorse by who's who. That;s not what we need. Because those who's who will be running our country....you know what because you want to repay them. Who is going to suffer...we the people. But we show to the whole world we are the best country....smart citizens of the Untied States. We the voters are the deciding factor who is going to win not superdelegates alone. We will show to whole world that our votes are not for sale. Our votes will not change because of endorsemens. Our votes are for that candidate who has the experience and determination and have proven good result. Viva America! Viva American People! Viva Hillary!

Posted by: Lianette | May 15, 2008 9:08 PM

Oh, how soon we forget (or make up rules that favor us). I've tolerated this entire campaign listening to the King of Arugula stating that superdelegates should not choose Clinton as the nominee. Now it seems the King wants them to jump to him so he can coronate himself on May 20, a full 11 days before the Rules and Bylaws Committee meets.

Just another bead in the string of hypocrisy that has come from the head of lettuce. I say more power to you Arugula, because you are about to witness what dissing the largest voting block in the Democratic Party will do to your arrogant aspirations. Hell hath no fury like millions of women scorned. Be afraid, Lettuce King, be very afraid.

Posted by: Seeker | May 15, 2008 9:05 PM

O'Reilly had on two female Hillary backers. A brown one from PA and a pink one from OH.

Both threatened to leave the party if Hillary loses. They claim their gender has been "insulted" by party leaders and the press. But when pressed for an example they couldn't give one.

Bill missed his opportunity to ask about the three SCOTUS members the next president is likely to choose. Do women really want three more conservatives up there? Roe vs Wade - poof!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 9:04 PM

Edwards is swinging through the trees to help Obama just like he helped Kerry but where is Jane...

Posted by: 1ahead | May 15, 2008 9:03 PM

Well this is funny. Obama can't win with working class whites, he can't win the blue states or the swing states, he can't get Hispanics, or Jews, or Catholics, or older white folks, he lost women who are pissed off at the unjust attacks the "hated woman" candidate...um who does that leave? kids and blacks? HE'S SURE TO LOSE. OBAMA = DEMS LOSE THE GENERAL ELECTION.

Posted by: g | May 15, 2008 8:57 PM

truthfully? does Obama offer any solutions or does he just offer hope, as in "vote for me and we can all hope these problems go away,oh to be so young and liberal to the point that we can think that if we can get a young black male in the whitehouse and not in prison? we AREN'T a racist country. Please! isn't it racism just to vote for a president because he is black? I can call the general election a McCain victory from here. We need a president who offers answers not "hope" but Hillary will get her chance in 2012 after all the feel-gooders get sick of 4 more years of a bush-league president in office

Posted by: rhammonsster | May 15, 2008 8:53 PM

Bandwagon & Big Lie are the Propaganda tactics employed by "The Mainstream Media" to keep Obama's campaign afloat.

Obama's campaign is based on
This BIG LIE:

OBAMA: I have a "special" capacity to "work across the aisles" and "bring people together" to Make CHANGE & as Evidence I point to 26 GOOD Bills I got passed while I was in the Illinois Legislature.

BIG LIE: Those 26 bills were all passed in ONE YEAR. The Democrats had MAJORITY CONTROL of the Illinois Senate. Emil Jones, the Democrat Majority Leader GAVE Obama all the GOOD Bills OTHER MEMBERS had been working on for years & LET OBAMA PUT HIS NAME ON THEM. Want Details?
Go Here:

http://wweek.com/editorial/3418/10516/

That BIG LIE, and all Obama's other BIG LIES i.e.(He's not the negative, name calling, smearing, character assassinating candidate, Hillary is, she's the racist, not him ... etc.) ARE the PROPAGANDA put out by ALL the TV MEDIA --- because the OWNERS of the TV MEDIA (GE, Westinghouse) plan to profit handsomely from building 29 New nuclear power plants; as they have been enabled to do by: The Cheney Energy Bill.

BECASUSE: McCain Voted FOR the Cheney Energy Bill. Obama Voted FOR the Cheney Energy Bill. Clinton Voted Against it.

i.e. IF McCain or Obama is elected the Cheney Energy RIPOFF WILL take place.

Posted by: elme | May 15, 2008 8:53 PM

GOOD. The BILLARY nightmare will soon end. In Nebraska, BUBBA Clinton has canceled many campaign stops!

Posted by: KYJurisDoctor | May 15, 2008 8:52 PM

Why all those HRC hillbilly supporters write posts that are hermetically confuse and with double space?
I think I know the answer: only racist rednecks, hillbilly high school dropouts and all the trailer park trash that is America's shame keep supporting HRC.
They will probably keep supporting forever, because they are sooo moronic they can't understand the news and see that KKK-HRC is GONE, DONE, KAPUT!

Posted by: HillBillies are funny | May 15, 2008 8:49 PM

"Posted by: chelpings of honesty crushing the mentally impaired with Bjoints intheir mouths... | May 15, 2008 8:23 PM"

the author of that post really should see a psychiatrist, the verbiage is beyond stupid.

Posted by: YoMama | May 15, 2008 8:48 PM

say boy?

Posted by: whachoo trying to | May 15, 2008 8:40 PM

believe jimmy wants to go bobbing on

Karl Rove's lap....


right sonny?

Posted by: I | May 15, 2008 8:39 PM

Michael - how DARE you submit a reasonable post! :)

Posted by: Chuckamok | May 15, 2008 8:37 PM

This comments section REAALLLY needs some moderation. It's pointless otherwise. Drooling idiots...

Posted by: JimBob | May 15, 2008 8:35 PM

Come on, folks. Ratchet it down a notch. Hillary supporters are not stupid. Obama supporters are not naive. Reasonable people can disagree, but I think all Democrats can agree that Hillary or Obama would be preferable to McCain. The Republicans are shipwrecked this election cycle and will need to re-invent themselves. McCain's Iraq policy is a flaming disaster and I doubt he can walk away from it.

If the Dems lose this fall it will be from our failure to re-unite. Obama will be a great candidate and a great president. Let's get behind him and take the GE this November.

Posted by: Michael | May 15, 2008 8:34 PM

some of these double-spacing "commentators" border on spamming this article.

It's tacky to do this when other people appreciate the article, have intelligent opinions, and know how to post in a civilized manner.

Posted by: twodogwoman | May 15, 2008 8:33 PM

republick conners...


to them a rectal thermometer and an anal thermometer are the same thing...


to other people, there's a difference in taste...


shameless is george w. in the whitehouse handing out BJ's while selling homophobia...you gotta lotta nerve BasicInstinct selling your schitt ...

let's keep things in perspective:

Kitty Kelley's 2004 book on the Bush family, George W earned this nickname in the '60s for his skill at giving BJ's to his fraternity brothers. And eventually his clan sent him to some Christian brainwashing program to degay him.

George W. 'Lips' Bush : 1ST Gay US President?


(PHOTO: Sir George H. W. Bush, Sr., whose Skull and Boner nickname is 'Magog,' Knight of the British Empire, hugs Skull & Boner former mayor-ambassador Victor Ashe in Knoxville, Tennessee. Ashe was George Bush Jr's roommate and fellow cheerleader at all-male Yale University and was fired from the Tennessee legislature by the Tennessee Supreme Court for election fraud and perjury in 1974)

Is George W. Bush the first gay president?

Evidence of Bush's non-heterosexual proclivities keeps surfacing. Kitty Kelley's Bush Family expose' "The Family" (2004) had noted George W. Bush's homosexual relationsip with Victor Ashe, the Mayor of Knoxvillle, Tennessee.

Ashe, like Bush, is a member of the Yale University based Order of Skull and Bones, and was later appointed US Ambassador to Poland by Bush in December, 2003, after probes and inquiries by Congress.

George W. Bush, who was the head cheerlader at all-male Phillips Academy in Andover, Massachusetts, as well as cheerleader at all-male Yale University has been quoted as saying, "I want to thank my old college classmate (you used to call him Bulldog, we call him Victor) the Mayor of Knoxville Victor Ashe," at the Van Hilleary for Governor Luncheon, Knoxville, Tennessee, Oct.

Oddly enough the fake reporter/ male prostitute Jeff Gannon was also named "Bulldog" on his gay sex sites like HotMilitaryStud.com, MilitaryEscorts.com and MilitaryEscortsm4m.com.

Pirate News producer John Lee (http://piratenews.org/bushgaygate.html) notes that Bush has other gay nicknames for White House familiars --

* 'Turdblossom' for gay puppeteer Karl Rove.

* 'Pooty Poot' for Vladimir Putin, Russian President and Commie KGB chief.

* 'Mr. Big O' for lispy treasury secretary Paul O'Neill, ex-CEO of ALCOA Corporation in Alcoa, Tennessee.

* 'Sally Suck-em-silly' for the late David Lewis

Kiity Kelley writes that "George earned his fabulous nickname, 'Lips Bush' for his skill at giving BJ's to his fraternity buddies."

Lee, in George Bush's GayGate, writes -- "Why is Bush so hostile to the idea of gay marriage? Perhaps because until 1987, George W. Bush was gay.

"According to a group of 29 Yale classmates who comprise Gay Ivy Leaguers for Truth, Bush was 'known to be at least sexually experimental throughout his time in college.'

"One of Bush's alleged former boyfriends, Anthony Berusca (Class of '70), told The Dallas Morning News that Bush was 'deeply conflicted about being gay, even somewhat self-hating.'

"Berusca is convinced that this conflict led to Bush's drinking problems, but describes the President as a 'gentle, caring lover.'

"In 1986, the Bush family arranged for George to join Worthy Creations, a church group in El Paso that focuses on converting homosexuals through faith.

"A year later, Bush claimed to be straight, born again, and engaged to Laura Welch (Kitty Kelly in "The Family" wrote that Bush's twin daughters were not his offspring, but from a donor at a fertility clinic).

And what is Skull and Bones? An Introduction to the Order of Skull and Bones" (TrineDay.com)

Confession and blackmail are part of the rites of initiation for the Order, as new members must divulge their sexual histories to other Bonesmen, so they will always be compliant in the future.

Senator John F. Kerry of Massachusetts and former President George Herbert Walker Bush are also members of the Order of Skull and Bones.

It was noted that Kerry, allegedly running against fellow Bonesman George Bush Jr. in the 2004 election, rolled over and played dead during most of his "campaign."

The admission of fake reporter/ male prostitute Jeff Gannon (aka James Guckert) to the White House and his unexplained sleepovers have added more evidence to a Gay White House with wags now claiming that GOP stands for 'Gay Old Party.'

After all, even Republican National Committee chair Ken Mehlman is gay.

So when will George Bush come out of the closet?

Don't hold your breath...

well, you know sometimes you have to shuck the shuckers...


you repukes, wanna live "off of the road" and make others "play fair?"

the best way to deal with you is to kick the living scheiss out of you,


and when "y'all fall down," the best thing to do is start kicking them in the face...


mark 'em up...


16 years of Clinton BASHING, the bama taking a ride on it....


Posted by: how do you tell | May 15, 2008 8:33 PM

shameless is george w. in the whitehouse handing out BJ's while selling homophobia...you gotta lotta nerve BasicInstinct selling your schitt ...

let's keep things in perspective:

Kitty Kelley's 2004 book on the Bush family, George W earned this nickname in the '60s for his skill at giving BJ's to his fraternity brothers. And eventually his clan sent him to some Christian brainwashing program to degay him.

George W. 'Lips' Bush : 1ST Gay US President?


(PHOTO: Sir George H. W. Bush, Sr., whose Skull and Boner nickname is 'Magog,' Knight of the British Empire, hugs Skull & Boner former mayor-ambassador Victor Ashe in Knoxville, Tennessee. Ashe was George Bush Jr's roommate and fellow cheerleader at all-male Yale University and was fired from the Tennessee legislature by the Tennessee Supreme Court for election fraud and perjury in 1974)

Is George W. Bush the first gay president?

Evidence of Bush's non-heterosexual proclivities keeps surfacing. Kitty Kelley's Bush Family expose' "The Family" (2004) had noted George W. Bush's homosexual relationsip with Victor Ashe, the Mayor of Knoxvillle, Tennessee.

Ashe, like Bush, is a member of the Yale University based Order of Skull and Bones, and was later appointed US Ambassador to Poland by Bush in December, 2003, after probes and inquiries by Congress.

George W. Bush, who was the head cheerlader at all-male Phillips Academy in Andover, Massachusetts, as well as cheerleader at all-male Yale University has been quoted as saying, "I want to thank my old college classmate (you used to call him Bulldog, we call him Victor) the Mayor of Knoxville Victor Ashe," at the Van Hilleary for Governor Luncheon, Knoxville, Tennessee, Oct.

Oddly enough the fake reporter/ male prostitute Jeff Gannon was also named "Bulldog" on his gay sex sites like HotMilitaryStud.com, MilitaryEscorts.com and MilitaryEscortsm4m.com.

Pirate News producer John Lee (http://piratenews.org/bushgaygate.html) notes that Bush has other gay nicknames for White House familiars --

* 'Turdblossom' for gay puppeteer Karl Rove.

* 'Pooty Poot' for Vladimir Putin, Russian President and Commie KGB chief.

* 'Mr. Big O' for lispy treasury secretary Paul O'Neill, ex-CEO of ALCOA Corporation in Alcoa, Tennessee.

* 'Sally Suck-em-silly' for the late David Lewis

Kiity Kelley writes that "George earned his fabulous nickname, 'Lips Bush' for his skill at giving BJ's to his fraternity buddies."

Lee, in George Bush's GayGate, writes -- "Why is Bush so hostile to the idea of gay marriage? Perhaps because until 1987, George W. Bush was gay.

"According to a group of 29 Yale classmates who comprise Gay Ivy Leaguers for Truth, Bush was 'known to be at least sexually experimental throughout his time in college.'

"One of Bush's alleged former boyfriends, Anthony Berusca (Class of '70), told The Dallas Morning News that Bush was 'deeply conflicted about being gay, even somewhat self-hating.'

"Berusca is convinced that this conflict led to Bush's drinking problems, but describes the President as a 'gentle, caring lover.'

"In 1986, the Bush family arranged for George to join Worthy Creations, a church group in El Paso that focuses on converting homosexuals through faith.

"A year later, Bush claimed to be straight, born again, and engaged to Laura Welch (Kitty Kelly in "The Family" wrote that Bush's twin daughters were not his offspring, but from a donor at a fertility clinic).

And what is Skull and Bones? An Introduction to the Order of Skull and Bones" (TrineDay.com)

Confession and blackmail are part of the rites of initiation for the Order, as new members must divulge their sexual histories to other Bonesmen, so they will always be compliant in the future.

Senator John F. Kerry of Massachusetts and former President George Herbert Walker Bush are also members of the Order of Skull and Bones.

It was noted that Kerry, allegedly running against fellow Bonesman George Bush Jr. in the 2004 election, rolled over and played dead during most of his "campaign."

The admission of fake reporter/ male prostitute Jeff Gannon (aka James Guckert) to the White House and his unexplained sleepovers have added more evidence to a Gay White House with wags now claiming that GOP stands for 'Gay Old Party.'

After all, even Republican National Committee chair Ken Mehlman is gay.

So when will George Bush come out of the closet?

Don't hold your breath...

well, you know sometimes you have to shuck the shuckers...


you repukes, wanna live "off of the road" and make others "play fair?"

the best way to deal with you is to kick the living scheiss out of you,


and when "y'all fall down," the best thing to do is start kicking them in the face...


mark 'em up...


16 years of Clinton BASHING, the bama taking a ride on it....


Posted by: suck on this commies | May 15, 2008 8:32 PM

want to help AMERICA come out of it's economic slump...


stop the "war" FRAUD machine...


make the US ECONOMY a matter of NATIONAL SECURITY....


put all contractors in IRAQ, AFGHANISTANT, and the US directly affiliated with the "war" FRAUD effect under GAO GSA aegis...


and examine their books.

Posted by: hey punks....hope your panties are still dry; | May 15, 2008 8:30 PM

crushing stupidity - not good days for you, ey?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 8:30 PM

you two twin sisters or something...


or like two dogs coupling do you just share the same space???


Posted by: geeze are | May 15, 2008 8:30 PM

really,

you wanna take me on..


have a conversation instead of me offsetting


your spam?????

I"m here, other wise consider you're lives to be over.

Posted by: no | May 15, 2008 8:28 PM

Insult? Your post was utterly incomprehensible, a total non sequitur. How can I insult it, there was nothing there to insult?

Posted by: treetopflyer | May 15, 2008 8:28 PM

KISS,
....
not an actual event.

Posted by: dearest | May 15, 2008 8:09 PM
----

LOL - Rush is that you? Please lower your dosage!

Posted by: KISS | May 15, 2008 8:28 PM

If Clinton fans bolt the party, McCain is the next prez.

And he'll be able to select maybe three Supreme Court Justices.

Are hurt feelings and sour grapes worth that?

Posted by: Chuckamok | May 15, 2008 8:28 PM

there are about

40 PERCENT REPULSIVE SCAMMERS posting here,


working their "magic" aka


_L_I_E_ ing "as their position" , fabrication aka WMD aka Valarie Plame yellowcake aka _hate_ as a "family value," while downsizing and outsourcing your jobs....don't buy anymore magic beans...with your cow AMERICA . . . .


the information that they sell you is name calling innuendo and outright lies and attempts to link with republick scammer crimes...


HILLARY, do please


keep calling a spade a spade...it works to help reveal the truth, make it visible.


duh bama man, he has "let stand" the repulsive scammers lies being used against you, and he has used them as well...


he didn't say the lies weren't true...


he used the 16 years of hate poured out against THE CLINTONS through the CIA based republick scamming propaganda mill...


why ????? because it made his life easier...


why do the republick scammers hate "the Clintons" so....why do vampires hate the sun, why does Liberty Valance hate Jimmy Stewart, why does crime hate justice....

because their true relation to their existence means that they will be held responsible for who they are, in simple people speak...


"the Clintons" make the scum visible....MLK made rascism visible...


THE CLINTONS ARE THE ONLY DEMOCRATS TO HAVE HELD THEIR OWN AGAINST THE REPUBLICAN, CIA BASED


HATE MACHINE...that could not stop them...

JFK could not stop it....Bobby Kennedy could not stop it, Jimmy Carter was bxxx fxxxed by it...


now that Hillary, is using a little pointed comments of her own


THE REPUBLICANS here, are asking her to tone it down


for the sake of the party....right...


like they asked Al GORE to not contest the vote count in FLORIDA


they said that he was selfish and dividing the country.


was he?


What would AMERICA be like if Carter had had two terms?


I Al Gore had had two terms?????


ENERGY PROBLEMS????


no, none....


outsourcing would never have happened


and we would be enjoying European style cities instead of crime and depression...


AMERICA would still be the most respected nation on earth


and the TRILLIONS of dollars being poured in to WAR PROFITEERING HOUSEHOLDS and OVERSEAS would be being used to


upgrade AMERICA....vis a vis infrastructure programs...


.
____________________________________________________________________

Posted by: crushing stupidity... | May 15, 2008 8:25 PM

let's be clear here...


Obama doesn't know jack about the working man...


Hillary grew up in a blue collar world as did Bill Clinton...

they are rich, from their own work...


they don't own war profiteering companies and they are not inherited wealthy...and they certainly didn't marry big money

as McCain and Kerry did...

O ba ma ???? he's a Pee Wee Herman kinda guy...


he looks good on screen but there's nothing there to get the job done when he gets hired...

in fact his main qualifications so far seem to be dismissing Hillary and her knowledge of Washington INSIDERS as being important...

o ba ma's got his campaign larded up with Washington INSIDERS and WAR PROFITEERS

but he don't know that and he won't know that until it's too late...

then it'll be too late for AMERICA...

you either take this schitt out and dump it...or it'll be back in four years...

clean house, set the house on fire and remove the parasites....it's over and so is this administration...

put someone in that knows how to clean house...

Hillary....

not some little tap dancing picking and grinning monkey


. dog's best friend is of course referring to George W. Bush as the dawg he is serving .


dog's best friend isa bush bot, the name tells you that and the postin gstyle is ummistakable...


.

Posted by: chelpings of honesty crushing the mentally impaired with Bjoints intheir mouths... | May 15, 2008 8:23 PM

John who? Does he even matter in the big picture?

The media is artificially hyping this candidate. HRC destroyed BHO the other day and I found one or two stories on it. A has been (or never was) offers his endorsement and I can't click on a web page today without reading about BHO's inevitable nomination.

Keep kissing this guys fanny liberal media. Reagan democrats are going to determine the next president and they hate his guts!

P.S., Gov Richardson who?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 8:23 PM

see, threetoed_blower


that you're not an elite.


you're a poseur that when confronted insults....

suck my root little ssam

Posted by: I also | May 15, 2008 8:21 PM

outsourcing


which is what devaluing labor is about...

is the current problem.


it started with

1. union breaking, ATC REGAN

2. downsizing, INTERNATIONALIZATION,

3. outsourcing...

for every job lost overseas you have a MIDDLE CLASS PERSON


now making "retail wages,"

you ever try to live on a salary earned from BURGER KING

in WASHINGTON D.C. ??????

get real shunt.

Posted by: nice try | May 15, 2008 8:19 PM

dear lackawit - I'll tell you what I don't swallow - your drivel.

Posted by: treetoplyer | May 15, 2008 8:17 PM

"liberal"


what are you sucking on?


old tampons???

talka bout stale, you'd have to have a new brain to be able to compete.

jeeeeeeeeezeus what a disappointment.

Karl was about as bright as you two tricks...


rewriting someone else's post and putting his name on it...


and using the current dirt in the stream and affixing

his opponents name to it....


same trick different view...

but what do you expect from someone that thinks sucking George W. Bushes joint

"is fun"

apparently you're in the crowd....hows you azzhole


brownshirter...

Posted by: cheeeeeeeeezeus... | May 15, 2008 8:16 PM

>>>

The American workers share has been declining since Reagan got into office in 1980. Cut the Top Tax Rate down from 70% to the low 30%'s; higher govt spending; shifing of the tax burden from wealthy to workers; higher Soc. Sec. TAXES.

Corporations all across the U.S. also trotted out the Two-Tier Wage Structure right after Reagan was elected. (Pay the people at the top a whole lot more, pay everybody else a whole lot less.

That Tax shift from rich to everybodyelse, and Corporate Policy (Two-tier wages) has been going on for 30 years and appears to me to have a whole lot more to do with the decline in the American Stnndard of living than globalization.

Posted by: elme13 | May 15, 2008 8:15 PM

Ben,

First, I should apologize for my comments about your grammar; poor grammar and poor English really irritate me, especially when people take a holier-than-thou stance about how educated they are (and in the process, prove otherwise).

Second, I would think that alienating people from your cause and your candidate simply because you don't like them is a great way to lose an election. I'm not sure Mr. Obama would care for that very much.

Maybe you should think just a little before you speak (or post). You might not have to endure ridicule and embarrassment.

Posted by: lukewarmcoffey | May 15, 2008 8:14 PM

treetopflyer


obviously,


you can't read and don't know the difference between elitist and an elite.


and probably don't know what a muckraker is or why DICKENS is relevant...

because you'd prefer to swallow over thinking...


right?

Posted by: dear lackawit | May 15, 2008 8:12 PM

Oh Ben,

First of all, you spelled Karma incorrectly and misused 'your' instead of 'you're' so you have no place criticizing Herbert for his poor use of English.

Second, and more importantly, you obviously weren't taught about sarcasm or satire at the Wal-Mart junior college where you learned English. Good ol' Herbert was just channeling the obviously racist and thoroughly red-neck voters in W.Va. (And you can't call me out on that remark because I'm from E. Tenn. originally and know all too well the type.)

You don't help out your (see this is where you use your) cause by displaying ignorance infused with hypocrisy. Do Obama a favor and have a nice cup of SHUT THE F**K UP!

Posted by: lukewarmcoffey | May 15, 2008 7:17 PM
---------------------
You're so clever. You can distinguish between your and you're. What a devastating response! Sounds like a Harvard man we have here.

Posted by: Steve | May 15, 2008 8:12 PM

KISS,


people like you?

I could care less if you read my posts.


Intelligence and information that is factual,


have no impression to make on dull metal.

FOAD little squirrel....you are the bane of intellectual meaningful discussion....


go home and watch FAUX news....you're soundbite food.


you thinK IRAQ attacked AMERICA and that homos are taking over your marriage.


you're a LACK.


not an actual event.

Posted by: dearest | May 15, 2008 8:09 PM

An IntelligentPost Writer wrote -

Were that all that Wal-Mart did, of course, the answer would be "nothing." But as business writer Barry Lynn demonstrated in a brilliant essay
---------------------------------------------------------------
"Brilliant essay"? Careful, writer, don't you know that anything that smacks of intellectual effort is "elitist"? At least to those who are riveted to their couches passively soaking up False News and nothing but.

Face it, trogs. Liberals are going to fix this country's problems. Enjoy the ride, it'll be a good one, but having a brain will help. Go out and buy one, if you haven't maxed out your card on NASCAR tickets and pisswater Bud (you do know Budweiser is a German name, a trademark stolen from a Czech brewery, don't you? How elitist!). Ooph! A cultural symbol used as insult, a la latte. Yeah! In your face, high-blood pressure saltlicks of the earth!

Posted by: treetopflyer | May 15, 2008 8:09 PM

Thanks 'Voice of Reason' for your comments - I am an Aussie vitally interested in this electoral process as it has an immediate impact on me and mine (as it does most of the worlds population).

The illiterate trolls on both sides of this debate do their respective camps a disservice when they fail to speak the Queens English (or even the American version).

I am willing to be impressed and educated by either side. I am unlikely to be bullied or abused into agreeing with anyone.

Posted by: James Moylan | May 15, 2008 8:07 PM

McCain a war hero? I doubt it!
http://www.usvetdsp.com/mcianhro.htm

Posted by: Viet Nam Vet | May 15, 2008 8:05 PM

between an elitist

and an a elite ????


one has inherited their wealth,

one has become so capable as to move to the top of their field...


elitists, buy their way to the front of the line,

and remove opportunity for others to advance...


Devaluing Labor

By Harold Meyerson
Wednesday, August 30, 2006; Page A19

Labor Day is almost upon us, and like some of my fellow graybeards, I can, if I concentrate, actually remember what it was that this holiday once celebrated. Something about America being the land of broadly shared prosperity. Something about America being the first nation in human history that had a middle-class majority, where parents had every reason to think their children would fare even better than they had.

The young may be understandably incredulous, but the Great Compression, as economists call it, was the single most important social fact in our country in the decades after World War II. From 1947 through 1973, American productivity rose by a whopping 104 percent, and median family income rose by the very same 104 percent. More Americans bought homes and new cars and sent their kids to college than ever before. In ways more difficult to quantify, the mass prosperity fostered a generosity of spirit: The civil rights revolution and the Marshall Plan both emanated from an America in which most people were imbued with a sense of economic security.
That America is as dead as the dodo. Ours is the age of the Great Upward Redistribution. The median hourly wage for Americans has declined by 2 percent since 2003, though productivity has been rising handsomely. Last year, according to figures released just yesterday by the Census Bureau, wages for men declined by 1.8 percent and for women by 1.3 percent.

As a remarkable story by Steven Greenhouse and David Leonhardt in Monday's New York Times makes abundantly clear, wages and salaries now make up the lowest share of gross domestic product since 1947, when the government began measuring such things. Corporate profits, by contrast, have risen to their highest share of the GDP since the mid-'60s -- a gain that has come chiefly at the expense of American workers.

Don't take my word for it. According to a report by Goldman Sachs economists, "the most important contributor to higher profit margins over the past five years has been a decline in labor's share of national income."

As the Times story notes, the share of GDP going to profits is also at near-record highs in Western Europe and Japan.

Clearly, globalization has weakened the power of workers and begun to erode the egalitarian policies of the New Deal and social democracy that characterized the advanced industrial world in the second half of the 20th century.

For those who profit from this redistribution, there's something comforting in being able to attribute this shift to the vast, impersonal forces of globalization. The stagnant incomes of most Americans can be depicted as the inevitable outcome of events over which we have no control, like the shifting of tectonic plates.

Problem is, the declining power of the American workforce antedates the integration of China and India into the global labor pool by several decades. Since 1973 productivity gains have outpaced median family income by 3 to 1. Clearly, the war of American employers on unions, which began around that time, is also substantially responsible for the decoupling of increased corporate revenue from employees' paychecks.

But finger a corporation for exploiting its workers and you're trafficking in class warfare. Of late a number of my fellow pundits have charged that Democratic politicians concerned about the further expansion of Wal-Mart are simply pandering to unions. Wal-Mart offers low prices and jobs to economically depressed communities, they argue. What's wrong with that?

Were that all that Wal-Mart did, of course, the answer would be "nothing." But as business writer Barry Lynn demonstrated in a brilliant essay in the July issue of Harper's, Wal-Mart also exploits its position as the biggest retailer in human history -- 20 percent of all retail transactions in the United States take place at Wal-Marts, Lynn wrote -- to drive down wages and benefits all across the economy. The living standards of supermarket workers have been diminished in the process, but Wal-Mart's reach extends into manufacturing and shipping as well. Thousands of workers have been let go at Kraft, Lynn shows, due to the economies that Wal-Mart forced on the company. Of Wal-Mart's 10 top suppliers in 1994, four have filed bankruptcies.

For the bottom 90 percent of the American workforce, work just doesn't pay, or provide security, as it used to.

Devaluing labor is the very essence of our economy. I know that airlines are a particularly embattled industry, but my eye was recently caught by a story on Mesaba Airlines, an affiliate of Northwest, where the starting annual salary for pilots is $21,000 a year, and where the company is seeking a pay cut of 19 percent. Maybe Mesaba's plan is to have its pilots hit up passengers for tips.


_______________________________________________

so,


let's be straight here....

having money, doesn't make one crooked...

haven stolen, skimmed, influence peddled, comity, pork, ear marking or using the CIA


to drug traffick whilst shipping manufacturing overseas to get some INTERNATIONAL MONEY AND INFLUENCE

as bushCO and CRONYs have is elitism...

grow up and learn not to be soooo ineffective as to be unmanned by high school style reasoning contests....


.

Posted by: what's the difference | May 15, 2008 8:03 PM

I am so pleased that Edwards is backing Obama. It shows that there is unity within the party. Despite Hillary's strange desire to continue.

I don't deny that she has every right to hang in there until the bitter end. But it's not about her...it's about the good of America.

OBAMA 2008!

Posted by: Wendy R. | May 15, 2008 8:02 PM

One thing that people need to keep in mind when discussing Obama and his narrow lead over Clinton.

Clinton and Edwards were the only two "Known" candidates to start with. Obama was a relative unkown. If the first few states he did not do as well as he would have if there was a complete redo from the very beginning now that all of the information is available.

Basing everything off of the results post "Super Tuesday" Obama is way way ahead of Hillary now that his name is out there and his message is being heard. Because of this I do not believe McCain has a chance to win.

Posted by: TimL | May 15, 2008 8:00 PM

If your post is bigger than the text box you submit it in....most likely people will not read it.

Just trying to make this comment section a little more useful.

Posted by: KISS | May 15, 2008 7:59 PM

The Republicans are running scared!

What will they do when they can't use american taxpayer money as their personal ATM machine anymore?

What will they do when they can't control the flow information out of the whitehouse, and replace it with thier lies?

What will they do when all their terrorists friends need to file for unemployment?

Well, at least they can move to California now and marry their true loves!

Posted by: Kent | May 15, 2008 7:57 PM

Devaluing Labor

By Harold Meyerson
Wednesday, August 30, 2006; Page A19

Labor Day is almost upon us, and like some of my fellow graybeards, I can, if I concentrate, actually remember what it was that this holiday once celebrated. Something about America being the land of broadly shared prosperity. Something about America being the first nation in human history that had a middle-class majority, where parents had every reason to think their children would fare even better than they had.

The young may be understandably incredulous, but the Great Compression, as economists call it, was the single most important social fact in our country in the decades after World War II. From 1947 through 1973, American productivity rose by a whopping 104 percent, and median family income rose by the very same 104 percent. More Americans bought homes and new cars and sent their kids to college than ever before. In ways more difficult to quantify, the mass prosperity fostered a generosity of spirit: The civil rights revolution and the Marshall Plan both emanated from an America in which most people were imbued with a sense of economic security.
That America is as dead as the dodo. Ours is the age of the Great Upward Redistribution. The median hourly wage for Americans has declined by 2 percent since 2003, though productivity has been rising handsomely. Last year, according to figures released just yesterday by the Census Bureau, wages for men declined by 1.8 percent and for women by 1.3 percent.

As a remarkable story by Steven Greenhouse and David Leonhardt in Monday's New York Times makes abundantly clear, wages and salaries now make up the lowest share of gross domestic product since 1947, when the government began measuring such things. Corporate profits, by contrast, have risen to their highest share of the GDP since the mid-'60s -- a gain that has come chiefly at the expense of American workers.

Don't take my word for it. According to a report by Goldman Sachs economists, "the most important contributor to higher profit margins over the past five years has been a decline in labor's share of national income."

As the Times story notes, the share of GDP going to profits is also at near-record highs in Western Europe and Japan.

Clearly, globalization has weakened the power of workers and begun to erode the egalitarian policies of the New Deal and social democracy that characterized the advanced industrial world in the second half of the 20th century.

For those who profit from this redistribution, there's something comforting in being able to attribute this shift to the vast, impersonal forces of globalization. The stagnant incomes of most Americans can be depicted as the inevitable outcome of events over which we have no control, like the shifting of tectonic plates.

Problem is, the declining power of the American workforce antedates the integration of China and India into the global labor pool by several decades. Since 1973 productivity gains have outpaced median family income by 3 to 1. Clearly, the war of American employers on unions, which began around that time, is also substantially responsible for the decoupling of increased corporate revenue from employees' paychecks.

But finger a corporation for exploiting its workers and you're trafficking in class warfare. Of late a number of my fellow pundits have charged that Democratic politicians concerned about the further expansion of Wal-Mart are simply pandering to unions. Wal-Mart offers low prices and jobs to economically depressed communities, they argue. What's wrong with that?

Were that all that Wal-Mart did, of course, the answer would be "nothing." But as business writer Barry Lynn demonstrated in a brilliant essay in the July issue of Harper's, Wal-Mart also exploits its position as the biggest retailer in human history -- 20 percent of all retail transactions in the United States take place at Wal-Marts, Lynn wrote -- to drive down wages and benefits all across the economy. The living standards of supermarket workers have been diminished in the process, but Wal-Mart's reach extends into manufacturing and shipping as well. Thousands of workers have been let go at Kraft, Lynn shows, due to the economies that Wal-Mart forced on the company. Of Wal-Mart's 10 top suppliers in 1994, four have filed bankruptcies.

For the bottom 90 percent of the American workforce, work just doesn't pay, or provide security, as it used to.

Devaluing labor is the very essence of our economy. I know that airlines are a particularly embattled industry, but my eye was recently caught by a story on Mesaba Airlines, an affiliate of Northwest, where the starting annual salary for pilots is $21,000 a year, and where the company is seeking a pay cut of 19 percent. Maybe Mesaba's plan is to have its pilots hit up passengers for tips.


_______________________________________________


anyone telling you there is a "war," going on

is insulting your intelligence....any one of these posters talking about war or victory is a walking talking scheiss-struum
IRAQ is OCCUPIED BY AN _ILLEGAL_INVASION_FORCE_ stealing natural resources...

that they will sell to the highest bidder...and bushCO and CRONYs will keep the money ...not share it with the UNITED STATES...I guarantee it...

but let's go forward and talk to a crawford salaami sucker as if he were asking a perfectly legitimate question about THE OCCUPATION :

a republick conner SCREAMS:

How about a solution to the Iraq "war" ?

REPLY:

the solution is simple.
since the ECONOMY IS A MATTER OF NATIONAL SECURITY,

we shut down the war profiteering machines impetus to cloud and disseminate DISinformation...false hoods, lies, monkey schiess as information..


we hand control of BLACKWATER, Carlyle Group, Booze Allen Hamilton, Halliburton, Bechtel, KBR, CACI, Dyncorp, and other AMERICAN war profiteering companies over to the GSA...at least those branches in Afghanistan and IRAQ...
and


look at the books of those companies...while we are checking the books...everyone will be working at GS-SCALE.
seperate the embezzlers from the books as a first step.

arrest a few executive branch members and put them on trial as a show to the rest of the world that there had in fact been a
regime change.


lock down the OIL, and start talks with the SHIA majority as well as the SUNNI MINORITY...


Paul Bremer had $12 BILLION DOLLARS in cash delivered to him in IRAQ

to pay out bribes...what did "we the people," get for those bribes? or was it just for the benefit of CHEVRON, EXXON-MOBIL, BP ???? if so,


I want that fxxxing money back...you dig ??

BREMER also removed the flow meters from the IRAQI OIL PIPLINES so that oil could be removed without tracking the amount moved....UAE seems to be selling OIL that doesn't test as having come from UAE....what's that about?

We could be buying IRAQI oil from SAUDI, KUWIAT, UAE, EXXON MOBILand other companies without Iraqis getting credit for that OIL,...

couldn't we.
SO WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO SOLVE THINGS?


1. seperate the crooks from the money as a first step and

2. start prosecution of the corruption.

3. renegotiate with the IRAQI people for OIL if we want it.

4. start focusing on the U.S. of A. ECONOMY as the REAL NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE.

and realize that republick scammers, and COMPLICIT CONGRESS doesn't want a solution,


they want SAME OLD SAME OLD


DO NOT WANT A SOLUTION, THEY WANT TO SELL YOU THAT WHAT IS GOING ON IS A LEGITMATE OPERATION.

it isn't.


Posted by: An INTELLIGENT POST WRITER.... | May 15, 2008 7:55 PM

Thanks May,

I was beginning to lose hope.

And Ben, even in E. Tenn. they have the internet, that why it's called the World Wide Web. I'm not really sure why you're (ding!) being so combative, maybe you're (ding!) overcompensating?

Posted by: lukewarmcoffey | May 15, 2008 7:55 PM

I think the reason lattes confuse hard core mental defectives (see, I can demonize, too - I dare you to take me on, mofos, you'll wind up paste) is because it's a word from another language. They're the ones who managed to somehow skip or blank out the foreign language requirement as "unnecessary" or "for sissies" in a country with several million Spanish speaking inhabitants. "Latte" is simply Italian for the fruitiest, most unAmerican of beverages - milk. To be fair, Starbucks is a purposely fruity establishment, trying to make the most mundane things sound exotic by putting them in a foreign language. The size "venti", e.g., means "twenty". WTF?? Twenty what? Dollars? There is a subcrowd that's willing to pay Starbucks' outrageous prices just so they don't have to order coffee in English. So to call someone a latte-sipper is to say he's as superficial as these poseurs - sorry, posers.

Anyone ever see Obama order a coffee? Bet he at least knows how to operate a coffee machine in a gas station - eat that, salt of the earth types (you do know that salt's good only in very limited quantities, dont' you?).

Posted by: treetopflyer | May 15, 2008 7:51 PM

lukewarmcoffey - ben's obviously a work in progress. But, hey, somebody showed him the way onto the internet. So he must have a support group. :)

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 7:48 PM

lukewarmcoffey,

You are an Obama supporter? I would rather you not be. We are only accepting educated rational and honest people. Not rude and from the boons of E. Tennessee. Maybe in 4 years we can accept you in the Obama team.
Till then keep farming and using Edit on your posts. I think Hillary is looking for supporters from E. Tennessee, she said so herself.

Posted by: Ben | May 15, 2008 7:47 PM

Please, please tell my that Reverend Willie is a put on !!!!

Posted by: fire67 | May 15, 2008 7:47 PM

Let's not forget that Edwards also brought NARAL who supported him during the Primary and the United Steelworkers who also supported him during the Primary. Both organizations have now endorsed Obama. There are also individual voters like myself who backed Edwards and will now shift our support to Obama. I will now vote for Obama in my Kentucky primary.

Posted by: pmorlan | May 15, 2008 7:46 PM

It should be noted that the biggest problem with American politics is politicians.
Also, it's nice to blame all of our troubles on the current president, but in fact both congress and the house of representatives are as much or more to blame for the way things are going in this country.
If you really want a change, consider what all of your representatives have been voting for and make them accountable for it. Bush couldn't spend all that money without the house and congress agreeing to it. Bush alone could not mess up the economy without the help congressmen and senators from both parties. Politicians are the problem, so maybe we should vote in some people who haven't made their living feeding from the public trough.

Posted by: Markus13 | May 15, 2008 7:46 PM

Not to speak for Herbert, but my guess is he's an Obama supporter. Not to speak for you, Ben, but my guess is you've been mixing your (see there it is again) medications. Speaking for myself, I am an Obama supporter, I live in Seattle now, I don't use MS Word if I can help it, and I don't need spell check to leave a comment on a website. One of the many things I learned when I went to college is get the hell out of TN. Which is probably what most of the college students in WVa learned as well; that might partially explain why Obama lost.

So Ben, get your head out of your gym bag(read anus) or you're (oh snap, there's the right use of those words)going to find that the people you support don't want your help.

I hope you think of me every time you have to use the second person possessive pronoun in a contraction. :)

Posted by: lukewarmcoffey | May 15, 2008 7:44 PM

Reverend Willie:
"Obammer is a latte-swillin'..."

For crying out loud, if you want to make an argument, speak/type in ENGLISH. I gave up on your hate rant after the second sentence because I cannot translate your sad attempts at communication.

If you want to put down Obama, do it intelligently and legibly for the people who still read and use ENGLISH. You seem confident at being able to criticize any Muslim for being un-American by sake of their religion, but you can't even bother to communicate clearly in the language Americans use. How does that work? Bastardizations of the English language are labeled as such for a reason.

Yes, many people are dissatisfied with Obama as the nominee (not me). However, those same people don't put him down for being who he is and regurgitate media talking points from Bill O'Reily. They criticize him for the points that actually matter: his perceived ability to govern and pass acceptable legislation for the good of the people, and not the top 1% of the economy.

The democratic process is in place to allow everyone a chance to voice their opinions. But when people like you start abusing your right by foaming at the mouth clearly un-Democratic opinions, its clear you need to sit down and shut up.

My hope is that Obama gets to office, and is there for 8 years. My further hope is that you will be tormented by this every waking moment for the rest of your life. Just to top this off, I further hope that Obama actually does something to help you out in your community, and you will have to live with knowing how wrong you really were.

Posted by: Voice of Reason | May 15, 2008 7:44 PM

Mike McConnel and John Negroponte stuff...


thanks for verifying that for me...


the current DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE is knee deep in IRAN CONTRA CO DEFENDANT friendships....


CRONYism.

"John Michael McConnell, the retired vice admiral slated to become America's new top spy, [has some] longtime associations [which] may cause him headaches during Senate confirmation hearings," Newsweek.com notes."One such tie is with another former Navy admiral, John Poindexter, the IRAN CONTRA DEFENDANT, convicted of multiple felons, and pardoned by the current president by electoral frauds' father.....George H.W. Bush, figure who started the controversial 'Total Information Awareness' program at the Pentagon in 2002."

On February 13, 2002, Americans were warned that our nation was facing the threat of danger to homeland security. Three hours later it happened, but nobody told America.

That day, John M. Poindexter was appointed Director of the Pentagon's Information Awareness Office.


Meet America's New Big Brother

Who's John Poindexter?
A retired Navy Admiral, John Poindexter lost his job as National Security Adviser under Ronald Reagan, and was convicted of conspiracy, lying to Congress, defrauding the government, and destroying evidence in the Iran Contra scandal. [1]

What's the Information Awareness Office (IAO)?

It's a new office created by the Pentagon agency DARPA after 9/11 to gather intelligence through electronic sources like the internet, phone, and fax lines.
Why did John Poindexter get the job?
He was the Vice President of Syntek Technologies, a government contractor.

Syntek and Poindexter worked for years with DARPA to develop Genoa, a surveillance device that's a combination cutting-edge search engine, sophisticated information harvesting program", and a "peer-to-peer" file sharing system. Kind of a military-grade Google/Napster for use in instant analysis of electronic data.

What was Iran-Contra all about?

Iran was holding American hostages. President Reagan said we would not negotiate with terrorists. At the same time, the CIA wanted to support a rebel army in the overthrow of the Nicaraguan government. Congress said no.

So John Poindexter, along with Oliver North and many others, went behind President Reagan's back (supposedly) and sold weapons to the Iranians (illegally), then took the money they made and funneled it to the brutal "Contra" army that they built in Central America (also illegally). See [1]

Read some of the Ollie North / John Poindexter emails that they unsuccessfully tried to destroy
From CNN Interactive

John Poindexter isn't the only Iran-Contra conspirator to be appointed to a high-level position.

More Iran-Contra figures who now hold top government posts....there are six [6] in the WHITEHOUSE....former felons...conspiracists. OH MY !!!!

Why didn't I hear about his appointment on the news?

Very few newspapers and virtually no TV stations announced Poindexter's appointment. Apparently they didn't consider it "newsworthy".


when John Negroponte was made the Director of National Intelligence with the ability to excuse any company from being audited or reporting revenues....


what companies were excluded?


included within those companies were companies that the Whitehouse families profit from? or their families families or CRONYS ????

Halliburton, Bechtel, Carlyle Group, KBR, DynCorp, BLACKWATER


did not have to disclose.

is there any part of this administration that does not scream


___CONFLICT____OF______INTEREST____ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


can we try these thieves and then hang them for each major crime of treason ????


.if convicted of course.


.
FOAD


.

Posted by: thanks soooooooooo much WASHINGTON POST FOR MOCKING THE TRUTH.... | May 15, 2008 7:43 PM

Mike McConnel and John Negroponte stuff...


thanks for verifying that for me...


the current DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE is knee deep in IRAN CONTRA CO DEFENDANT friendships....


CRONYism.

"John Michael McConnell, the retired vice admiral slated to become America's new top spy, [has some] longtime associations [which] may cause him headaches during Senate confirmation hearings," Newsweek.com notes."One such tie is with another former Navy admiral, John Poindexter, the IRAN CONTRA DEFENDANT, convicted of multiple felons, and pardoned by the current president by electoral frauds' father.....George H.W. Bush, figure who started the controversial 'Total Information Awareness' program at the Pentagon in 2002."

On February 13, 2002, Americans were warned that our nation was facing the threat of danger to homeland security. Three hours later it happened, but nobody told America.

That day, John M. Poindexter was appointed Director of the Pentagon's Information Awareness Office.


Meet America's New Big Brother

Who's John Poindexter?
A retired Navy Admiral, John Poindexter lost his job as National Security Adviser under Ronald Reagan, and was convicted of conspiracy, lying to Congress, defrauding the government, and destroying evidence in the Iran Contra scandal. [1]

What's the Information Awareness Office (IAO)?

It's a new office created by the Pentagon agency DARPA after 9/11 to gather intelligence through electronic sources like the internet, phone, and fax lines.
Why did John Poindexter get the job?
He was the Vice President of Syntek Technologies, a government contractor.

Syntek and Poindexter worked for years with DARPA to develop Genoa, a surveillance device that's a combination cutting-edge search engine, sophisticated information harvesting program", and a "peer-to-peer" file sharing system. Kind of a military-grade Google/Napster for use in instant analysis of electronic data.

What was Iran-Contra all about?

Iran was holding American hostages. President Reagan said we would not negotiate with terrorists. At the same time, the CIA wanted to support a rebel army in the overthrow of the Nicaraguan government. Congress said no.

So John Poindexter, along with Oliver North and many others, went behind President Reagan's back (supposedly) and sold weapons to the Iranians (illegally), then took the money they made and funneled it to the brutal "Contra" army that they built in Central America (also illegally). See [1]

Read some of the Ollie North / John Poindexter emails that they unsuccessfully tried to destroy
From CNN Interactive

John Poindexter isn't the only Iran-Contra conspirator to be appointed to a high-level position.

More Iran-Contra figures who now hold top government posts....there are six [6] in the WHITEHOUSE....former felons...conspiracists. OH MY !!!!

Why didn't I hear about his appointment on the news?

Very few newspapers and virtually no TV stations announced Poindexter's appointment. Apparently they didn't consider it "newsworthy".


when John Negroponte was made the Director of National Intelligence with the ability to excuse any company from being audited or reporting revenues....


what companies were excluded?


included within those companies were companies that the Whitehouse families profit from? or their families families or CRONYS ????

Halliburton, Bechtel, Carlyle Group, KBR, DynCorp, BLACKWATER


did not have to disclose.

is there any part of this administration that does not scream


___CONFLICT____OF______INTEREST____ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


can we try these thieves and then hang them for each major crime of treason ????


.if convicted of course.


. ...

FOAD


.

Posted by: thanks so much WASHINGTONPOST FOR BEING A SUPPORTER OF MOCKERY... | May 15, 2008 7:42 PM

ben, how's that ESL class coming along? Maybe soon you'll get to "contractions."

Anything's possible. :)

Posted by: Chuckamok | May 15, 2008 7:40 PM

than Ronald Reagan was...


he's the fudge packer at the front of the machine...


the photoOP kid,...

if Kerry hadn't taken a dive, we wouldn't be here now...

and if AL GORE had stuck to his guns and demanded that recount...

George W. would be pushing up daisies from a drunk driving accident...


what's

"the election," really all about for the people controlling the United States ???


1. control of about $3 TRILLION DOLLARS in funds


2. control of the COMPLICIT CONGRESS as a business tool

3. control of the Intelligence and Military as a development and planning tool for some families affiliated with those agencies....most obviously through

a. CIA FBI MAFIA bay of pigs
b. CIA Iran Contra drug trafficking
c. CIA Sand Bros, BIG OIL Blackwaterdrugtrafficking y mehico


all categories also have to do with managing perceptions...

Hillary, has been a victim so far of how people have managed others perceptions of her...


she needs to manage her own weather and perceptions...

and start driving some wedges into peoples patella's ,

have ballpeen, willTRAVEL, palladin

want some help ???


call me.

.

Posted by: bush is no more incontrol of things | May 15, 2008 7:40 PM

Way to SELL OUT John Edwards!

When he was still in the race he was opposed to building nuclear power plants; (THE CHENEY ENERGY BILL's enabling of GE & Westinghouse's plans to build 29 new nuclear power plants.)

Edwards was in favor of Medical care for all, same as Clinton.

But NOW, he's selling us all down the river
& If Obama or McCain is elected WE will get to PAY FOR Dick Cheney's ENERGY RIPOFF #4: 29 nuclear power plants + all the NEW nuke waste ... we STILL have no place to "dispose of".

Wonder If that's why Edwards wife isn't endorsing Obama ... Maybe she cares too much for her children & grandchildren to SADDLE them with MORE nuke waste; or watch other children go without medical care.

GOOGLE: Rocky Flats Denver plutonium and Hanford washington nuclear waste dump & READ about the 50 year Nuke Waste Nightmare ... wherein ... our government has spent ALL 50 Years ... studying, planning, promising ... to CLEAN the mess up ... and ... has STILL NOT DONE IT.

Besides the hideous nuke waste nightmare They're TOO EXPENSIVE. We need Clean renewable de-centralized, less expensive ENERGY. Nukes are NONE OF THE ABOVE & IF we are FORCED to pay $BILLIONS for nukes ... all the New Energy Technologies will REMAIN Un-Developed ... with all the money squandered on OBSOLETE 70-year old technology.

GE owns MSNBC & NBC. Westinghouse owns CBS. They spend hundreds of millions every year on ADVERTISING in EVERY FORM OF MEDIA.

The only candidate who is OPPOSED to nuclear is Clinton. You want a NEW Energy economy based on GREEN --- there's NO WAY you will get it unless you vote for Clinton.

Have you caught a CLUE yet --- the "News" coverage you have been seeing on TV since last November is DESIGNED to do ONE THING: FOOL YOU into Voting for Obama or McCain ... so those CORPORATE-Controllers of the Corporate-Controlled MEDIA ... can
PULL OFF the Next Big Cheney Energy RIPOFF.

You remember, Cheney Energy Ripoff #1: Enron: market manipulation: higher electricity rates. Cheney Energy Ripoff #2: Higher Oil & gas Prices : Market Manipulation. Cheney Energy Ripoff #3: The Iraq Oil War. Cheney's NEXT Big Energy Ripoff #4: Higher Electricity Rates: 29 Nuke power plants.

Before you Vote for Obama ... why don't you ASK Him: WHY did YOU Vote FOR the Cheney Energy Bill? Then ask YOURSELF this question: WHY hasn't the TV MEDIA asked HIM that QUESTION? WHY hasn't the TV MEDIA told us anything about The Cheney Energy Bill? WHY did MSNBC cut the sound from their coverage of a Hillary Clinton campaign stop ---as soon as she said: "I will get rid of the LOOPHOLES in the CHENEY ENERGY BILL." back to Andrea Mitchell.

Posted by: elme | May 15, 2008 7:39 PM

Can anyone tell me why Billary is having a fund raiser? Just goes to show her integrity. She damn well knows she has no chance, I don't think she's that dumb. Only reason she's staying in is to get the $20MM debt paid off by bunch of suckers.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 7:38 PM

all presentation, no skill set,


a chameleon, he doesn't chose the colors he fits them...

what's

"the election," really all about for the people controlling the United States ???


1. control of about $3 TRILLION DOLLARS in funds


2. control of the COMPLICIT CONGRESS as a business tool

3. control of the Intelligence and Military as a development and planning tool for some families affiliated with those agencies....most obviously through

a. CIA FBI MAFIA bay of pigs
b. CIA Iran Contra drug trafficking
c. CIA Sand Bros, BIG OIL Blackwaterdrugtrafficking y mehico


all categories also have to do with managing perceptions...

Hillary, has been a victim so far of how people have managed others perceptions of her...


she needs to manage her own weather and perceptions...

and start driving some wedges into peoples patella's ,

have ballpeen, willTRAVEL, palladin

want some help ???


call me.

.

Posted by: right...that's why he's not afraid to debate her...he's an empty suit... | May 15, 2008 7:38 PM

Way to SELL OUT John Edwards!

When he was still in the race he was opposed to building nuclear power plants; (THE CHENEY ENERGY BILL's enabling of GE & Westinghouse's plans to build 29 new nuclear power plants.)

Edwards was in favor of Medical care for all, same as Clinton.

But NOW, he's selling us all down the river
& If Obama or McCain is elected WE will get to PAY FOR Dick Cheney's ENERGY RIPOFF #4: 29 nuclear power plants + all the NEW nuke waste ... we STILL have no place to "dispose of".

Wonder If that's why Edwards wife isn't endorsing Obama ... Maybe she cares too much for her children & grandchildren to SADDLE them with MORE nuke waste; or watch other children go without medical care.

GOOGLE: Rocky Flats Denver plutonium and Hanford washington nuclear waste dump & READ about the 50 year Nuke Waste Nightmare ... wherein ... our government has spent ALL 50 Years ... studying, planning, promising ... to CLEAN the mess up ... and ... has STILL NOT DONE IT.

Besides the hideous nuke waste nightmare They're TOO EXPENSIVE. We need Clean renewable de-centralized, less expensive ENERGY. Nukes are NONE OF THE ABOVE & IF we are FORCED to pay $BILLIONS for nukes ... all the New Energy Technologies will REMAIN Un-Developed ... with all the money squandered on OBSOLETE 70-year old technology.

GE owns MSNBC & NBC. Westinghouse owns CBS. They spend hundreds of millions every year on ADVERTISING in EVERY FORM OF MEDIA.

The only candidate who is OPPOSED to nuclear is Clinton. You want a NEW Energy economy based on GREEN --- there's NO WAY you will get it unless you vote for Clinton.

Have you caught a CLUE yet --- the "News" coverage you have been seeing on TV since last November is DESIGNED to do ONE THING: FOOL YOU into Voting for Obama or McCain ... so those CORPORATE-Controllers of the Corporate-Controlled MEDIA ... can
PULL OFF the Next Big Cheney Energy RIPOFF.

You remember, Cheney Energy Ripoff #1: Enron: market manipulation: higher electricity rates. Cheney Energy Ripoff #2: Higher Oil & gas Prices : Market Manipulation. Cheney Energy Ripoff #3: The Iraq Oil War. Cheney's NEXT Big Energy Ripoff #4: Higher Electricity Rates: 29 Nuke power plants.

Before you Vote for Obama ... why don't you ASK Him: WHY did YOU Vote FOR the Cheney Energy Bill? Then ask YOURSELF this question: WHY hasn't the TV MEDIA asked HIM that QUESTION? WHY hasn't the TV MEDIA told us anything about The Cheney Energy Bill? WHY did MSNBC cut the sound from their coverage of a Hillary Clinton campaign stop ---as soon as she said: "I will get rid of the LOOPHOLES in the CHENEY ENERGY BILL." back to Andrea Mitchell.

Posted by: elme | May 15, 2008 7:38 PM

Hey feelmyloveinyourjoints,

So you are saying that he doesnt know jack? Ok, even if your right at least he wont be worse than Bush.

Bush knew alot and caused all the problems that your saying Obama doesnt know, hahahahaha Your probably from E. Tennessee like the Karmakofee shlub

Posted by: Ben | May 15, 2008 7:37 PM

what's

"the election," really all about for the people controlling the United States ???


1. control of about $3 TRILLION DOLLARS in funds


2. control of the COMPLICIT CONGRESS as a business tool

3. control of the Intelligence and Military as a development and planning tool for some families affiliated with those agencies....most obviously through

a. CIA FBI MAFIA bay of pigs
b. CIA Iran Contra drug trafficking
c. CIA Sand Bros, BIG OIL Blackwaterdrugtrafficking y mehico


all categories also have to do with managing perceptions...

Hillary, has been a victim so far of how people have managed others perceptions of her...


she needs to manage her own weather and perceptions...

and start driving some wedges into peoples patella's ,

have ballpeen, willTRAVEL, palladin

want some help ???


call me.

.

Posted by: dishingitout....frankfurters... | May 15, 2008 7:36 PM

you can't reason with crabgrass


or ticks,


you have to get rid of them...

do that and success will be a lot more easy to come by...

make O bama debate you.

call him out as a coward...


and cut some republican hamstring...


get someone to go publick about the bush family


"gayness,"


do it.


.
continuing:


growup and takethem down, any way, any how...


just doit.


actually,


what "the good guys," need to understand is that


being a pxxxy is also needing to be "approved of,"


Karl Rove, George W. Bush, George H.W. Bush, Trent Lott, Ken Mehlman Head of the Republican National Committee...


are all GAY FUDGE PACKERS, that regularly


GO DOWN ON EACH OTHER and adminster mouth-to-mouth to the


ONE EYED SNAKE, or as Jack Nickaulson called the ONE-EYED-STIFF-ONE


it's what they do for fun.


and yet they still needed to win, so they used HOMOPHOBIA


the one thing that they had been fighting their entire lives,


to buttfxxx


the ignorant masses.


THEY, "the evil ones," are not afraid to use what work...


while you, "the good guys,"


let yourselves be put "in place," by the evil ones when _they_don't_approve_of_you_

who gives a flying fxxx if the evil ones approve of you or not...


wanna win, say "that yes that's right I am a ball breaker," that's why you need to have me talking to PUTIN


instead of that wuss, Obama....or McCain, who asked someone that he hates Jerry Fallwell and Pat Robertson for their blessing because


he _is_ a panderer...


you, "good guys," have decided you can only stand in places were people


"approve of you,"


while the REPUBLICK SCAMMERS RUN the table using dirty tricks...


want to end the "dirty tricks," ?????


don't be afraid of using them or talking aobut them...


you want to be the "fairy princess," and win ???? good fxxxing lock ho


want to be Xena and win ????? There's a much better chance of success...


rest assured, CORPORATOCRACY DOES NOT WANT HILLARY TO WIN...because they are stupid...


they're inherited wealthy, they don't have the sense to understand that "power over," is done and finished in a time of limited resources...


the population is TOO HIGH


to allow "power over," to make the decisions for "the people," those fudge packers can't think past their own


puny, fat bellied "hard ones"


they need to have their "hard ones," cut off and


fed to the pigs.


get real, cut 'em.


. there's a learning process to go through...


being a winner allows you to set the rules next go 'round....


be a winner...


Posted by: pandering to truth... | May 15, 2008 7:35 PM

"if you're a professional manager or project leader or engineer... you know he doesn't know what the job consists of..."

Actually, I am a professional engineer. He knows what the job consists of.

Posted by: John from CA | May 15, 2008 7:35 PM

you can't reason with crabgrass


or ticks,


you have to get rid of them...

do that and success will be a lot more easy to come by...

make O bama debate you.

call him out as a coward...


and cut some republican hamstring...


get someone to go publick about the bush family


"gayness,"


do it.


.
continuing:


growup and takethem down, any way, any how...


just doit.


actually,


what "the good guys," need to understand is that


being a pxxxy is also needing to be "approved of,"


Karl Rove, George W. Bush, George H.W. Bush, Trent Lott, Ken Mehlman Head of the Republican National Committee...


are all GAY FUDGE PACKERS, that regularly


GO DOWN ON EACH OTHER and adminster mouth-to-mouth to the


ONE EYED SNAKE, or as Jack Nickaulson called the ONE-EYED-STIFF-ONE


it's what they do for fun.


and yet they still needed to win, so they used HOMOPHOBIA


the one thing that they had been fighting their entire lives,


to buttfxxx


the ignorant masses.


THEY, "the evil ones," are not afraid to use what work...


while you, "the good guys,"


let yourselves be put "in place," by the evil ones when _they_don't_approve_of_you_

who gives a flying fxxx if the evil ones approve of you or not...


wanna win, say "that yes that's right I am a ball breaker," that's why you need to have me talking to PUTIN


instead of that wuss, Obama....or McCain, who asked someone that he hates Jerry Fallwell and Pat Robertson for their blessing because


he _is_ a panderer...


you, "good guys," have decided you can only stand in places were people


"approve of you,"


while the REPUBLICK SCAMMERS RUN the table using dirty tricks...


want to end the "dirty tricks," ?????


don't be afraid of using them or talking aobut them...


you want to be the "fairy princess," and win ???? good fxxxing lock ho


want to be Xena and win ????? There's a much better chance of success...


rest assured, CORPORATOCRACY DOES NOT WANT HILLARY TO WIN...because they are stupid...


they're inherited wealthy, they don't have the sense to understand that "power over," is done and finished in a time of limited resources...


the population is TOO HIGH


to allow "power over," to make the decisions for "the people," those fudge packers can't think past their own


puny, fat bellied "hard ones"


they need to have their "hard ones," cut off and


fed to the pigs.


get real, cut 'em.


. there's a learning process to go through...


being a winner allows you to set the rules next go 'round....


be a winner...


Posted by: adjusting his spanner and removing some ticks... | May 15, 2008 7:34 PM

Top notch post AAAAAAAAA++++++++++

)))))))))))))))))
The only people Hillary supporters should be angry with is Hillary.

Her lack of planning, fiscal irresponsibility, inability to react to unexpected situations, lack of leadership, over-reliance on advisors and inability to inspire loyalty are the reasons she is in this position.

Hillary started the election with a daunting lead. She started with 200 pledged super-delegates and huge chunk of money and a high favorability rating.

Her campaign strategy was simple, lock up the primaries and immediately start damage control to fight off GOP attacks on her past, and present, investigations.

I think this primary has exposed a severe weakness in Hillary. She ran a horrible campaign and I think this speaks directly to how she would run our country.

In a single year, she has managed to:
Divide the democratic base
Damage the name of the Clintons
Refuse to admit to making any mistakes
Refuse to shift focus after loosing for the good of the party.
Surrounded herself with disposable advisors who she blames when things don't work out.

Clinton reminds me of Bush:
Divided the country.
Damaged the name of America, Republicans and Bush
Never admits to making mistakes.
Refuses to shift focus on the economy or Iraq, even though it is obvious the policies are failing.
Surrounded himself with yes men, that he throws under the bus when things go wrong.

How can Hillary maintain support in the White House, when she can not even retain long time party loyalists?

Hillary is the Tom Cruise of Politics, and that is sad, because she could have been so much better.

Posted by: Michael Cowan | May 15, 2008 7:26 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 7:33 PM

The media, pundits and not surprisingly Clinton camp was making too much of the W. Va. drubbing of Obama. In the whitest, poorest, oldest and least educated state not to mention a state that has a congressman who was a former KKK member, how would you expect a black candidate to do there?

Posted by: bud | May 15, 2008 7:33 PM

Mike McConnel and John Negroponte stuff...


thanks for verifying that for me...


the current DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE is knee deep in IRAN CONTRA CO DEFENDANT friendships....


CRONYism.

"John Michael McConnell, the retired vice admiral slated to become America's new top spy, [has some] longtime associations [which] may cause him headaches during Senate confirmation hearings," Newsweek.com notes."One such tie is with another former Navy admiral, John Poindexter, the IRAN CONTRA DEFENDANT, convicted of multiple felons, and pardoned by the current president by electoral frauds' father.....George H.W. Bush, figure who started the controversial 'Total Information Awareness' program at the Pentagon in 2002."

On February 13, 2002, Americans were warned that our nation was facing the threat of danger to homeland security. Three hours later it happened, but nobody told America.

That day, John M. Poindexter was appointed Director of the Pentagon's Information Awareness Office.


Meet America's New Big Brother

Who's John Poindexter?
A retired Navy Admiral, John Poindexter lost his job as National Security Adviser under Ronald Reagan, and was convicted of conspiracy, lying to Congress, defrauding the government, and destroying evidence in the Iran Contra scandal. [1]

What's the Information Awareness Office (IAO)?

It's a new office created by the Pentagon agency DARPA after 9/11 to gather intelligence through electronic sources like the internet, phone, and fax lines.
Why did John Poindexter get the job?
He was the Vice President of Syntek Technologies, a government contractor.

Syntek and Poindexter worked for years with DARPA to develop Genoa, a surveillance device that's a combination cutting-edge search engine, sophisticated information harvesting program", and a "peer-to-peer" file sharing system. Kind of a military-grade Google/Napster for use in instant analysis of electronic data.

What was Iran-Contra all about?

Iran was holding American hostages. President Reagan said we would not negotiate with terrorists. At the same time, the CIA wanted to support a rebel army in the overthrow of the Nicaraguan government. Congress said no.

So John Poindexter, along with Oliver North and many others, went behind President Reagan's back (supposedly) and sold weapons to the Iranians (illegally), then took the money they made and funneled it to the brutal "Contra" army that they built in Central America (also illegally). See [1]

Read some of the Ollie North / John Poindexter emails that they unsuccessfully tried to destroy
From CNN Interactive

John Poindexter isn't the only Iran-Contra conspirator to be appointed to a high-level position.

More Iran-Contra figures who now hold top government posts....there are six [6] in the WHITEHOUSE....former felons...conspiracists. OH MY !!!!

Why didn't I hear about his appointment on the news?

Very few newspapers and virtually no TV stations announced Poindexter's appointment. Apparently they didn't consider it "newsworthy".


when John Negroponte was made the Director of National Intelligence with the ability to excuse any company from being audited or reporting revenues....


what companies were excluded?


included within those companies were companies that the Whitehouse families profit from? or their families families or CRONYS ????

Halliburton, Bechtel, Carlyle Group, KBR, DynCorp, BLACKWATER


did not have to disclose.

is there any part of this administration that does not scream


___CONFLICT____OF______INTEREST____ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


can we try these thieves and then hang them for each major crime of treason ????


.if convicted of course.


Posted by: shameonyourbunnyslippers... | May 15, 2008 7:32 PM

Somebody (Dickie Morris?) must now be writing the definitive book on how the Clinton Machine ran one of the dumbest campaigns in history.

Concerning BubaJeff, his political smarts must have been mortally damaged by his health problems. A young Bubba could overcome his plethora of repulsive personal traits. Or he truly was working deliberately for a spectacular Hill-Rod face plant.

As to the "Smartest Woman in the World," well ... Hamfisted, snarky, amoral, vindictive, desperate - the more we see of her the more there is to abhor.

Thank god for Obama, who saved us from THAT.

Now, on to elect McCain. Maybe Obama can run again later, after he's proven himself in the Senate - seasoning and all that.

Posted by: Chuckamok | May 15, 2008 7:32 PM

Could one of you conservatives please explain to me why lattes infuriate you so much? They are just coffee and milk. Is it the steam that indicates un-Americanism?

For that matter, trying to peg a drink that is sold to hundreds of millions of customers through Starbucks/Petes/ etc. as "elitist" seems a little off base. Kind of like calling Big Macs elitist if you ask me.

Posted by: John from CA | May 15, 2008 7:32 PM

Welcome to the winning side!

That said, there's one unhappy group - Red Bushies and McSame, after they heard about the 3 for 3 losses of the GOP this year.

The Blue Tidal Wave is coming for you - and it's washing America clean!

Posted by: Will in Seattle | May 15, 2008 7:32 PM

a reason not to vote for Obama ???


watch him.


if you're a professional manager or project leader or engineer...

you know he doesn't know what the job consists of...

what does the job consist of????

really ???


it's understanding the people you're dealing with...


what their names are, their affiliations, and their influence....

you have to know insider WASHINGTON DC, and not on reputation on actuallity...

does bama know that the current Secretary of Defense is a treasonist ???


that acted against Jimmy Carter with George H.W. Bush in Paris before George H.W. Bush was a president ????


does he know Wolfowitz and Richard Perle are on record for having commited espionage ???

does he even know who those people are ??


does bama know what the 1998 PNAC Letter to Clinton contained???


does he know how that is related to AEI / JINSA / AIPAC / CSP


does o bah mah know the difference between a

Hassidic Jew and a Zionist ????


what percentage of Jewish People are zionist / conservatives ????


what is "The Deuteronomist"


what is the difference between Iraqi Oil and Kuwiati OIL ???


is there a signature ???


what countries don't check for theft... when you deliver a supertanker of OIL


what countries ???


who is Paul Bremer and what does that have to do with SHRINK WRAPPED $100 bills...


I pretty much guarantee you that bama don't know jack about anything I asked...


I imagine that Hillary could nail it at the 85 PerCent Level...


which is why the azzmonkey bamah won't debate her...


his ignorance be 'sposed then...


you know like asking a job candidate to tell you how they would solve a

logistics problem relating to pipelining...


or asking a candidate to tell you what the point of using

a control loop for NAFTA would consist of...


how would you implement a bill to be self adjusting with certain parameters ???


embarrazz the lad is what would happen...


but really job one is knowing who you're working with...


bama is a Pawnee Indian


they scouted for the whiteman, because they hated the other indians...so they felt like helping the calvary scout out and kill the other Indians was in their best interests...


.

you repuke guys smell like toenail jam...

Posted by: feelmyloveinyourjoints... | May 15, 2008 7:32 PM

you can't reason with crabgrass


or ticks,

you have to get rid of them...


do that and success will be a lot more easy to come by...


make O bama debate you.


call him out as a coward...

and cut some republican hamstring...

get someone to go publick about the bush family


"gayness,"


do it.


.
Comment on: Misogyny I Won't Miss at 5/15/2008 5:31 PM EDT
growup and takethem down, any way, any how...


just doit.


actually,


what "the good guys," need to understand is that

being a pxxxy is also needing to be "approved of,"

Karl Rove, George W. Bush, George H.W. Bush, Trent Lott, Ken Mehlman Head of the Republican National Committee...


are all GAY FUDGE PACKERS, that regularly


GO DOWN ON EACH OTHER and adminster mouth-to-mouth to the


ONE EYED SNAKE, or as Jack Nickaulson called the ONE-EYED-STIFF-ONE

it's what they do for fun.

and yet they still needed to win, so they used HOMOPHOBIA


the one thing that they had been fighting their entire lives,

to buttfxxx


the ignorant masses.

THEY, "the evil ones," are not afraid to use what work...

while you, "the good guys,"

let yourselves be put "in place," by the evil ones when _they_don't_approve_of_you_


who gives a flying fxxx if the evil ones approve of you or not...


wanna win, say "that yes that's right I am a ball breaker," that's why you need to have me talking to PUTIN


instead of that wuss, Obama....or McCain, who asked someone that he hates Jerry Fallwell and Pat Robertson for their blessing because


he _is_ a panderer...

you, "good guys," have decided you can only stand in places were people


"approve of you,"

while the REPUBLICK SCAMMERS RUN the table using dirty tricks...


want to end the "dirty tricks," ?????


don't be afraid of using them or talking aobut them...


you want to be the "fairy princess," and win ???? good fxxxing lock ho


want to be Xena and win ????? There's a much better chance of success...

rest assured, CORPORATOCRACY DOES NOT WANT HILLARY TO WIN...because they are stupid...


they're inherited wealthy, they don't have the sense to understand that "power over," is done and finished in a time of limited resources...


the population is TOO HIGH

to allow "power over," to make the decisions for "the people," those fudge packers can't think past their own


puny, fat bellied "hard ones"

they need to have their "hard ones," cut off and


fed to the pigs.


get real, cut 'em.

. there's a learning process to go through...


being a winner allows you to set the rules next go 'round....


be a winner...


Posted by: youareinmy design classfornow... | May 15, 2008 7:30 PM

Great point Michael,

She really seems incompatent. Im happy we saw that side of her. I can't wait for Obama to run this country so people like LUKEWARMCOFFEY can finally have internet access in the hills of E. Tennessee.

God bless him and E. Tennesee and the horses there.

Posted by: Ben | May 15, 2008 7:30 PM

Mr. Obama tries to be all things to ALL people. No one can succeed spreading themselves so thin

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 7:29 PM

BTW Ben it's 'phonics'. I rest my case.

Posted by: lukewarmcoffey | May 15, 2008 7:29 PM

Edwards endorsing Obama should be seen as good news by Clinton. Edwards is a political loser, whoever gets him along is doomed to share his fate.
The timing for the endorsement reveals the clear intent of delivering maximum harm to Clinton's hopes, patently aimed at stifling the clamor that her resounding victory in WV rightfully deserved, so much more considering that the crushing success came so late in the race.
Why just now? What for?
Obviously the way the story unfolded provides fertile ground for emerging speculations about an Obama/Edwards ticket. But who might seriously believe that America is willing to get dragged to a ball where the music is played by the Left-Hand Band?
If positioning for VP was the real aim of Edwards' move, he once again demonstrated that his political judgment is as poor as it has always been. I don't expect Obama to be so foolish to cripple himself shouldering such a dead (and deadly)weight.
Mario

Posted by: Mario | May 15, 2008 7:27 PM

The only people Hillary supporters should be angry with is Hillary.

Her lack of planning, fiscal irresponsibility, inability to react to unexpected situations, lack of leadership, over-reliance on advisors and inability to inspire loyalty are the reasons she is in this position.

Hillary started the election with a daunting lead. She started with 200 pledged super-delegates and huge chunk of money and a high favorability rating.

Her campaign strategy was simple, lock up the primaries and immediately start damage control to fight off GOP attacks on her past, and present, investigations.

I think this primary has exposed a severe weakness in Hillary. She ran a horrible campaign and I think this speaks directly to how she would run our country.

In a single year, she has managed to:
Divide the democratic base
Damage the name of the Clintons
Refuse to admit to making any mistakes
Refuse to shift focus after loosing for the good of the party.
Surrounded herself with disposable advisors who she blames when things don't work out.

Clinton reminds me of Bush:
Divided the country.
Damaged the name of America, Republicans and Bush
Never admits to making mistakes.
Refuses to shift focus on the economy or Iraq, even though it is obvious the policies are failing.
Surrounded himself with yes men, that he throws under the bus when things go wrong.

How can Hillary maintain support in the White House, when she can not even retain long time party loyalists?

Hillary is the Tom Cruise of Politics, and that is sad, because she could have been so much better.

Posted by: Michael Cowan | May 15, 2008 7:26 PM

"Obammer is a latte-swillin'...."

Translation: Obama can afford what most Americans can't. Therefore he doesn't understand most Americans. Forget FDR, the rich boy who helped America overcome the Depression and beat the Nazis. Forget the same people who are plugging this latte crap are the ones who keep you unable to afford one. Forget that just maybe he can afford one because he worked his butt off, just like the millions who drink lattes every day. Forget that he wants to raise your living standard so you can afford latte too (and maybe even arugula, but who'd want to because it tastes awful). Just flip him and the lifeline he's throwing you the bird as the current takes you over the falls, because he's got the audacity to be safe on the riverbank. Forget he wants to get you there where he is so you can be safe too. Just remember that he is and you're not, and trust the people who are telling you to cuss him for it while they give you another push under...

Posted by: treetopflyer | May 15, 2008 7:26 PM

Pres Bush's decision to engage in partisan intervention. What the hell is next for you people, another war. Hilary says that new cars will pull you through. How many of you can afford a new car in the next couple of years, how many of you leased??. You will not be attacked, hopefully if you vote as the America I have known for 40 years. Man you are screwed. What a shame your great powers could not attack and control Burma. That would be the America I knew.
Life is great.

Posted by: justadad55+ | May 15, 2008 7:25 PM

Hey LUKEWARMCOFFEY,

They actually have internet in E. Tennessee? It's great to see that you used microsoft word to edit your typo's. Great tool. And I love how mad and upsed you got for good ol Herbert, perhaps you channel the same feelings as him? Im sure, cause why else would you defend his garbage. Its ok LUKEWARM, one day you will learn how to speak enligsh properly and maybe just maybe there will be internet in the hills of Eastern Tennesse. Maybe you can trade horses for laptops or something.
Now do me a favor keep farming cause im running out of tomatoes and cucumbers.
HAHAHA LUKEWARM IS UNEDUCATED

Posted by: Ben | May 15, 2008 7:25 PM

Hillary,

Here's your hat.... what's your hurry?

Goodbye... you ran another dishonest Clinton campaign.

Posted by: Matt | May 15, 2008 7:22 PM

I think you misread me, Ben, or I didn't state my point clearly. I was responding to im4america, a big Clinton fan, who was arguing that Obama is unelectable. I was contrasting the risks parties have to take: that electability isn't the only factor.

Obama isn't the easy choice: I think my earlier points support my statement that that may be so, but it's the right choice.

Posted by: abqcleve | May 15, 2008 7:19 PM

I think any future fund raising done by Hillary is a fraud for her now non existent campaign.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 7:18 PM

Oh Ben,

First of all, you spelled Karma incorrectly and misused 'your' instead of 'you're' so you have no place criticizing Herbert for his poor use of English.

Second, and more importantly, you obviously weren't taught about sarcasm or satire at the Wal-Mart junior college where you learned English. Good ol' Herbert was just channeling the obviously racist and thoroughly red-neck voters in W.Va. (And you can't call me out on that remark because I'm from E. Tenn. originally and know all too well the type.)

You don't help out your (see this is where you use your) cause by displaying ignorance infused with hypocrisy. Do Obama a favor and have a nice cup of SHUT THE F**K UP!

Posted by: lukewarmcoffey | May 15, 2008 7:17 PM

I am so sick and tired of people going after Obama for no apparent reason. Is he perfect, no. But he is a decent human being(especially for a politician). Now tell me what makes him worse than Mccain or Hillary? Oh, i forgot Hillary lost, nevermind and Mccsame has lost his mind.

Blab all you want Obama Haters but in the end you will be the ones shutting the t.v off when Obama gives his innagural sppech on January 21st. I will be tuning in. Maybe you can kill the time by going to Starbucks for a Latte and help the economy out.

Obama has won, sorry sore losers

Posted by: Ben | May 15, 2008 7:17 PM

That sounds like dream ticket, but honestly I would love to see Edwards in a more active position, like Secretary of Labor. And Hillary will still have a lot to do in NY senate. Let Obama choose his VP. He will do a great choice.

Posted by: jpAcosta | May 15, 2008 6:22 PM

-----------------------------------

Agree. I prefer that Edwards and Richardson serve as cabinet members, I do not think that they are good VP picks. For starters, they have small constituencies and Edwards already ran as VP and lost. Obama should pick a respected white male as a running-mate; it should be someone who did not participate in the Democratic primary. He made great decisions until now and I'm sure that he will not disappoint the public with his VP pick.

I have to admit that Edward's endorsement is a great boost for Obama and he will be very helpful in the GE.

Posted by: eagerly awaiting | May 15, 2008 7:17 PM

Anyone notice what Hillary is up to tonight? An evening fundraiser in Los Angeles strictly closed to the press with her, lets us say "Elitist" friends and contributers. I have a feeling the money is drying up though.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 7:15 PM

To Terry McAuliffe,

Obama and the mainstreammedia has given Clinton a pass.

www.againsthillaryclinton.com

As you can there is so much that could be used but has not been used.

Posted by: Mr. Unite Us | May 15, 2008 7:13 PM

Obammer is a latte-swillin'....

Posted by: Reverend Willie | May 15, 2008 7:07 PM

A Republican Coward scared of latte now!? Sheeesh, do any Republicans have a spine!? Must be hell being scared to death all day long.

Posted by: Franky | May 15, 2008 7:11 PM

ABQCLEVE,

Oh i get it, Mccain has integrity and Obama doesnt. Great way of cherry picking the facts and history of the two. Hmmmm, scandal of 89'?
Get lost,
Hillary already did,
Mccain is next
Obama in 08, cant stop him he is great

Posted by: Ben | May 15, 2008 7:10 PM

From Oregon: Willamette Weekly,

Portland, Oregon

Who among you registered D's hasn't thought long and hard about how to undo the blight that has been the Bush administration? Who hasn't watched the debates between Sen. Barack Obama and Sen. Hillary Clinton, followed the horse race and developed a gut feeling about who will best remove the tumor that has metastasized in the White House over the past seven years?

With all due respect to those who think Clinton is the best surgeon for our times, we're throwing our weight behind a different kind of healer, one who brings more than a smart set of policies, but rather a wholesale--yes, we'll say it--change in approach. Don't count us among the dewy-eyed who are infatuated with Obama and have conferred upon him celestial qualities: He is not divine. But do count us among those who believe he can inspire the best in each of us, begin to realign America's international image, restore our civil liberties and expel the criminals and plunderers that have had an all-access pass to the White House since 2001.

To those with reservations about the freshman Illinois senator's inexperience--we only point to his campaign's remarkable dexterity and management. To those who think he may not be tough enough--consider that he has been tested and vetted by the political equivalent of the thuggish Detroit Pistons. The Clintons have a long history of cheating, lying and throwing every available elbow to win. Obama has met every Clinton challenge and risen above it. Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would be a pussycat compared to the tenacity and wily nature of the Clintons.

There's not much daylight between Clinton and Obama on most issues, including Oregon-specific ones. (The Clinton campaign has made much of Obama's vote in favor of the Bush administration's 2005 Energy Policy Act, which Clinton says robbed local and state governments of their say in liquefied natural gas projects. Obama in turn touts the work he did to improve the bill, inserting provisions to promote green power and energy independence.)

But this isn't really about specific issues. It's about character, the ability to motivate, the skill to restore our position overseas and the wisdom to speak to us as adults about the challenges we face as, well, adults. Obama has demonstrated all of these talents during the campaign, and we're throwing our lot in with him. We hope this state's Democrats do so as well.

Posted by: Diogenes | May 15, 2008 7:09 PM

Obammer is a latte-swillin', working folk dissin', America God-dammin' pseudo intellectual who has been hand-picked fer this election by non other than the Great Bezeelbub hisself, Satan th' Devil! Satan had Obammer make thet fool Wright say all them crazy things to make the Lord look bad so thet folks'll all become Moslems an worship the false god Allah Wallah, what is none other than a junior devil in Satan's Hell! All them fool talkin' heads on the TV whut are praisin thet no good Obammer are tootling damn snow powder uppen their noses what is pervided by Satan hisself! But thet fool Wright was right on one account. The Lord will indeedy-doo Damn America ifn its folks vote in damn Obammer as the presy dent! The land'll be full of tornados and tidal waves an a-raining brimstone like a West Verginia sized moonshine still explodin! An then yew sinners can grovel all yew like, but it won't do no good, 'cause there will be an Angry Lord let loose upon your lives! Hallelooyah! Hallelooyah!

Posted by: Reverend Willie | May 15, 2008 7:07 PM

Barack Obama has been pursuing a strategy to "cast a wide tent" and enlist support from a wide range of supporters.--im4america
********************

Interesting and well presented treatise; unfortunately, its foundation is flimsy, to say the least. To argue that Obama is attempting to be "all things to all men" based solely on a misreading of (or charitably, your take on) his "present" votes in IL is extremely tenuous and ignores many other facts that counter your premise and conclusions.

The man is no tabula rasa. He is widely acknowledged to have one of the most liberal voting records in the Senate--just a little more progressive than Clinton. He has written two very full and clear books that provide congruent context for his Senate voting record. His position papers and speeches do not waffle much (unlike his two principle opponents).

You state that he "compromise[s] rather than stick to principles" based on your one-sided reading of his advocacy for a nuclear regulatory bill and connections to Exelon. You appear to rely on an investigative report published in the NYT (http://www.obamatruth.org/Nuclear%20Leaks%20and%20Response%20Tested%20Obama%20in%20Senate.htm) that played up Obama's connections to Exelon, while downplaying the realities of passing such a bill in early 2006 under a rigid Republican-controlled Senate, especially on a committee ruled by hard-right Sen. Inhofe. The salient fact discounting that inference is that, were the influence there, why would he have introduced the bill in the first place and fought for it, as the record demonstrate he did?

You also offer his supposed compromise on NAFTA, "joining Bush to support the entry of Peru without human rights and labor protections" as further evidence of his supposed unwillingness to stand on principle. To the contrary, dispassionate observers (http://tradebirddoggers.wordpress.com/2007/10/14/obama-peru-is-compromise/) point out that Obama has been willing to engage parties and negotiate: he does not shoot his wad on small fry, saving capital for bigger fish. We don't need ideologues: we need smart politicians who know how to listen. Haven't you been paying attention the past eight years?

You further argue that his "blank canvas strategy" will backfire and allow others to characterize him to suit their own ends. Well, they're going to do that anyway! That's politics. To then adduce as evidence the veiled implication of Bush's "appeasement" speech as sticking to Obama because of your theory, is highly specious. Although Bush's reference (denied) to Obama was clear, it hasn't stick negatively, because Obama has not, contrary to your assertion, "said he would like to meet with" the bad guys. He said he would be willing, that that option has to be on the table. A very disingenuous argument, sir!

And on what scintilla of evidence do you contrast Obama with Clinton by saying, "Clinton's views on almost every issue have been known for years making it impossible to attack her through vague allusions"? That's fantasy, man.

Your "empty canvas" argument, though more stylishly attired, is no different and certainly no more convincing than the "empty suit" complaint we've heard so often and inanely. Just because you don't perceive what you want to see, does not mean there's no "there" there!

You give up the game when you say, "If Mr. Obama is the Democratic candidate, there is a real risk that he will lead the party to a defeat of historic proportions akin to to McGovern, Mondale and Dukakis.... Oregenonians who truly want to advance a progressive agenda and end 8 years of Republican administration need to vote for Hillary Clinton, a woman who will win and who will not take no for an answer on issues of the environment, fair trade and equal rights."

Electability is only part of the equation and there are always risks. A marketing expert would surely tell you that, if electability were the entire shooting match, Republicans would have chosen Romney to represent them (giving the American people enough credit to elect a Mormon), not McCain. Republicans know they're taking huge risks with their candidate, just as they did with Bob Dole and Bush Sr.

It really comes down to core values. Which candidate do you feel has the integrity, character, skills, and vision to lead this country in the best directions? Oregonians, I know, will make the right choice.

Posted by: abqcleve | May 15, 2008 7:05 PM

Valid point IMM, let me add to that,

When Obama finished at Harvard, which his daddy didnt buy him his degree...., could of easily accepted a high paying job in Wall Street. He declined so he can devote his time with community organizations and make minimum wage. He is the people's champ and deserves to be the leader of the free world.

P.S Mike, i guess are illiterate too for understanding his snarl. I will buy you a book too hehehehe

Posted by: Ben | May 15, 2008 7:05 PM

I don't want no liberal muslim arab bringin his amercia hating pastor into the white haus so they can parise allah on in the Oval office whilst drinkin latte. if Obama wins the terrasts win and that's dang gum, put er in the bank!

Posted by: Herbert_Hoover | May 15, 2008 6:50 PM
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The Republican's only tool is FEAR. The Republicans are now showing the true color - Yellow!

Posted by: Franky | May 15, 2008 7:04 PM

It's really amazing how pitiful the Repugnican sleeze machine is. The only thing they can come up with to attack Obama with is innuendo, lies and fear-mongering. They can't even attack Obama directly. They can only attack people who contributed to his campaign (what about Lay's (Enron's president) 15 year close personal relationship to Bush? What about Cheney setting up a subsidiary in the Caymans to get around a boycott against Iran so that Halliburton could do business with the outlaw regime while he was president of Halliburton? What about Halliburton's subsidiary being given immunity from prosecution for anything it does in Iraq (including a gang-rape of one of its employees)?). And then they have the gall to question everyone else's patriotism!

Do the Repugnicans think Obama can run an FBI background investigation on every person who donates to his campaign? Despite this, whenever it comes to his campaign's attention that someone questionable contributed, they donate the questionably-sourced money to charity. What else do they want?

They even resort to attacking Obama's middle name or launching vicious attacks on Obama's family for being proud that lots of Americans are finally getting out and voting! Family values...right!

This is truly pitiful. It's the sign of the Republicans' bankrupt ideology. Unfortunately, their applying that ideology for the past 7 years has almost bankrupted America's treasury, our democratic institutions, our protections of our freedoms and our international reputation. It's emboldened our enemies and made America the most hated country in the world.

So I see why they can't run on the merits of their own ideas. They've backed themselves into a lonely corner where all they can do is try to stir up irrational fears and scream at the top of their lungs that they're the only ones who can save us form the "bad guys".

Makes me want to puke all over Cheney's face.

Posted by: John B | May 15, 2008 7:03 PM

Can we all chip and and buy HERBERT a full version of hooked on phonix?

That way we can understand what he is typing and maybe just maybe he can get a decent job instead of counting trees.

I will donate 5 dollars to the Herbert fund for higher education

Posted by: Ben | May 15, 2008 7:02 PM

Ben,

Herbert was using snark. he was clearly not serious.

Posted by: Mike Bailey | May 15, 2008 7:02 PM

ok - I've finally had enough... I am so sick of the Obama haters who refer to him as an elitist. Please tell me what evidence you have that he is an elitist. Have you seen him sip latte? Does he drive a Volvo? Is everyone who does enjoy lattes and volvos elitist? Give me a break! I don't know you personally, so I can't call you all racist, but tell me what it is about Obama that has driven you all to maddness? I really want to know.

Posted by: NM Moderate | May 15, 2008 7:01 PM

Im so excited about the direction is country is headed with the great Barack in 08. He will motivate and inspire us all to better our great country.

If your not on the Barack train its ok, cause there is plenty of time to jump on board.

Barack Obama will win in November

Posted by: Ben | May 15, 2008 6:59 PM

Posted by: Herbert_Hoover...
"I don't want no liberal muslim arab bringin his amercia hating pastor into the white haus so they can parise allah on in the Oval office whilst drinkin latte. if Obama wins the terrasts win and that's dang gum, put er in the bank!"

Dumb as a bag of hammers.
Must be a Hillary supporter.


NOW, MORE THAN EVER, BARACK OBAMA!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 6:59 PM

Obama has won the nominating process.

Hillary can go lead the senate.

Obama is going to lead the nation from the Whitehouse.


Vote Obama for President in '08!

Posted by: JBE | May 15, 2008 6:59 PM


I'm glad Hillary is out, she complained about everything, she made bad choices and she refused to take any responsibility for her bad choices, so the electorate forced responsibility on her and chose the other guy. Good!

Besides, Hillary would have Bill Clinton in the kitchen as first spouse.

With Barack Obama, we can have Bill Clinton in the Cabinet, and/or John Edwards, all the good people!


NOW, MORE THAN EVER, BARACK OBAMA!


Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 6:56 PM

Herbert,

You do know that this is an english website? I could not unerstand what your saying, probably because you dropped out of school in the 7th grade. Its ok school is always available.

Obama in 08

Posted by: Ben | May 15, 2008 6:52 PM

Phil Said:
"First, it should be noted that the DNC's decision to strip Florida and Michigan of its delegates made no mention of disregarding the popular votes from these two battleground states."

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Popular vote is not a measurement used to designate the nominee in the Democratic Party. So, it's not noteworthy that the DNC made no mention of it, since it is not a metric used to designate the nominee.

That being said, it is a number used to saber rattle, threaten, whine and cry about. ;^)

Posted by: ding-dong-the-witch-is-dead | May 15, 2008 6:51 PM

I don't want no liberal muslim arab bringin his amercia hating pastor into the white haus so they can parise allah on in the Oval office whilst drinkin latte. if Obama wins the terrasts win and that's dang gum, put er in the bank!

Posted by: Herbert_Hoover | May 15, 2008 6:50 PM

Hillary lost cause she attacked Obama unfairly. Carma, ouch. And oh yeah Barack wasnt even on the ballot in Michigan and didnt even campaign in Florida. Hillarious i mean Hillary did and she went up against casper and donald duck.

Obama won. (Period)
Hillary- afterthough

Posted by: Ben | May 15, 2008 6:48 PM

there are about

40 PERCENT REPULSIVE SCAMMERS posting here,


working their "magic" aka _l_i_e_ ing "as a position"


the information that they sell you is name calling innuendo and outright lies and attempts to link with republick scammer crimes...


HILLARY, do please


keep calling a spade a spade...it works to help reveal the truth, make it visible.


duh bama man, he has "let stand" the repulsive scammers lies being used against you, and he has used them as well...


he didn't say the lies weren't true...


he used the 16 years of hate poured out against THE CLINTONS through the CIA based republick scamming propaganda mill...


why ????? because it made his life easier...


why do the republick scammers hate "the Clintons" so....why do vampires hate the sun, why does Liberty Valance hate Jimmy Stewart, why does crime hate justice....

because their true relation to their existence means that they will be held responsible for who they are, in simple people speak...


"the Clintons" make the scum visible....MLK made rascism visible...


THE CLINTONS ARE THE ONLY DEMOCRATS TO HAVE HELD THEIR OWN AGAINST THE REPUBLICAN, CIA BASED


HATE MACHINE...that could not stop them...

JFK could not stop it....Bobby Kennedy could not stop it, Jimmy Carter was bxxx fxxxed by it...


now that Hillary, is using a little pointed comments of her own


THE REPUBLICANS here, are asking her to tone it down


for the sake of the party....right...


like they asked Al GORE to not contest the vote count in FLORIDA


they said that he was selfish and dividing the country.


was he?


What would AMERICA be like if Carter had had two terms?


I Al Gore had had two terms?????


ENERGY PROBLEMS????


no, none....


outsourcing would never have happened


and we would be enjoying European style cities instead of crime and depression...


AMERICA would still be the most respected nation on earth


and the TRILLIONS of dollars being poured in to WAR PROFITEERING HOUSEHOLDS and OVERSEAS would be being used to


upgrade AMERICA....vis a vis infrastructure programs...


.
____________________________________________________________________

want to help AMERICA come out of it's economic slump...


stop the "war" FRAUD machine...


make the US ECONOMY a matter of NATIONAL SECURITY....


put all contractors in IRAQ, AFGHANISTANT, and the US directly affiliated with the "war" FRAUD effect under GAO GSA aegis...


and examine their books.

Posted by: talk to me boyz.... | May 15, 2008 6:48 PM

To Phil:

Actually the website you indicated shows this:

Popular Vote Totals:
Obama: 16,438,697 (49.3%)
Clinton: 15,734,865 (47.2%)

Not that it really matters anymore anyway.

Posted by: Franky | May 15, 2008 6:45 PM

United '08 - Every one of us who will, let's get ready to do it for the sake of our country and our fellow members! Yes, we can do it.

Alright Edwards!! =)!

Alright Edwards Supporters!! United, we rock!

Posted by: Obama2008 | May 15, 2008 6:45 PM

Barack won Hillary lost and Mcsame is insane haha

Posted by: Ben | May 15, 2008 6:44 PM

So Hillary supporters still think she can win, they spout her exact talking points verbatim, they call everyone who doesn't endorse her a traitor, and they are willing to see the whole country go down in flames if she is not its leader.

Just think - people used to say that Obama's supporters were delusional and cult-like. How far we've come.

Posted by: Peter | May 15, 2008 6:44 PM

Yawn! Really a big deal where one "non-plus" endorses another "non plus"...come on...neither are qualified for the office and most all of us know that...it just more Demo Bias Media Bunkum For The Masses...have a nice day.

Posted by: Lance Kellogg | May 15, 2008 6:44 PM

Jaked2 :

HAHA! JakeD has been replaced by John Ryskamp

Posted by: brad | May 15, 2008 6:43 PM

Has anyone noticed how Hillary has completely disappeared from and news coverage? There is hardly a story on her today. I was hoping to hear the numbers from her fund raisers last night. I have a feeling after the Obama announcement about Edward's, most sat on their wallets.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 6:42 PM

Where the candidates were both on the ballot and were allowed to campaign Obama leads in the popular vote and delegates. Hillary has run the distance and cannot catch Obama - to state the obvious. It is time to start the campagn for November election. Hillary has given a great discourse with the electorate. But the time has come - Move over Hillary.

Posted by: SJHAYS | May 15, 2008 6:41 PM

im4america
Obama wants to meet with Cesar Chavez? He died in 1993 and was an American hero and peace activist. Meeting him personally will be tough for anyone but would have been an honor. I used to want to meet Bill Clinton but now I see he really is "Slick Willy" and his sidekick slick hilly

Posted by: billyg | May 15, 2008 6:40 PM

As Hillary's grasp on the nomination weakens I sleep better at night. The thought of either of the Clinton's in the White House ever again gives me nightmares.
Bill was a national embarrassment as President. Because of his intern affairs and lack of attention on foreign affairs we are now in Iraq. Hillary would have had a lot more of my respect if she had left Bill years ago. As a woman I do not respect her. I have no problems with a woman as President or VP but not that woman. Bill would not be any better behaved as First Husband as he was as President. Both she and Bill suffer from Truth Deficit Disorder...remember "I did not have sex with that woman!" and "sniper fire"? KY and OR... Kick her to the curb.

Posted by: Indiana voter | May 15, 2008 6:39 PM

o'bomba 08-Actually, I am none too happy with said RINO.

Even though he, unlike "Barry", does have qualifications for the Job of the EXECUTIVE, his positions are almost wholly unacceptable!

I DEMAND a President who understands the JOB of being President!

Hint-It is NOT a Legislative Role! It involves ENFORCEMENT! Not, Capitulation, and Re-Writing Laws NOT Enforced!

Romney Huckabee! Mitt and Mike! M&M!

Everyone LOVES M&M's! ;~)

Posted by: RAT-The | May 15, 2008 6:39 PM

Hey, come on now. You Rethugs need to address reality here.

McCain never sold out? He sold out his daughter, whom Rove cast as a "black love child". He sold out his supposed friend John Kerry to Bush and the Swift Boat Goose-steppers four years later. Lately, he has sold out his own experiences by voting FOR torture, and for selling out our troops by not advocating the New GI Bill.

As for Bush, he surely would know about Nazi appeasers. His grandpappy plotted to overthrow the government and replace it with a fascist dictatorship. Later, some of his holdings were confiscated because he was trading with the Nazis.

That said, speaking to those who don't like us is how you stop wars from starting. Something Republicans would never understand. Not that you guys ever have to fight the conflicts anyway.

Posted by: John, from Las Vegas, NV | May 15, 2008 6:36 PM

Obamatans, read it and weep, because Obama, no matter how yuo spin it, cannot beat a social moderate in November. McCain is perceived as a social moderate, and will eat Obama for lunch. GO HILLARY!!!

from www.taylormarsh.com -

"Let's examine the "will of the people" in selecting our 2008 Democratic nominee. Many party leaders and superdelegates have emphasized its importance.

"First, it should be noted that the DNC's decision to strip Florida and Michigan of its delegates made no mention of disregarding the popular votes from these two battleground states. After all, how can you ignore 2.3 million citizens, including a record turnout in Florida, who insisted on casting ballots even though officials told them it was pointless? That would be un-American. (See more thoughts about Florida and Michigan below).

"So...setting aside the matter of Florida and Michigan delegates --a matter to be reviewed by the RBC on May 31 -- let's take a look at the popular vote.

"Following Hillary Clinton's historic 41-point win in West Virginia, in which she netted nearly 150,000 votes, the popular vote totals from Real Clear Politics (RCP) for the primaries are:

"Total votes cast: 16,680,827
Clinton: 47.7% (HC leads by 29,471 votes)
Obama: 47.6%

"Total votes cast, including estimates from the caucus states of IA, ME, WA, and NV: 17,014,911
Obama: 47.7% (BO leads by 80,751)
Clinton: 47.5%

"Notes on the Popular Vote:
1. As stated above, there is no authority for disregarding raw votes from Florida and Michigan. Any claim that they should be excluded from popular vote totals is especially problematic given Obama's opposition to re-votes in both states, and the fact that he ran TV ads in Florida in violation of the pledge. Also keep in mind that Obama voluntarily removed his name from the Michigan ballot, against the advice of some of his allies, for political gain in Iowa. As Obama now heads to Florida and Michigan, presumably to campaign for general-election votes for the Democrats, it's increasingly ludicrous to cling to the position that these 2.3 million votes shouldn't count towards selecting his party's nominee.

"2. The RCP estimate of popular votes that includes caucus states is skewed towards Obama given the undemocratic nature of caucuses. There are now at least three examples -- Texas, Washington, and Nebraska -- where the candidates were virtually tied in primary elections but caucus results in the same states heavily favored Obama. Two new myDD stories provide excellent analyses about this dynamic, here and here.

"3. A blogger also points out that Clinton has now won the popular vote in 195 US Congressional Districts, compared to 187 for Obama. Including Florida and Michigan, it would be 227 for Clinton and 195 for Obama.

"A virtual tie:
By June 3rd, no matter how you slice it, this race will be a dead heat.

"Clinton is likely to lead Obama (and McCain) among all votes cast in presidential primaries, even when including the skewed caucus results. Obama will maintain his pledged delegate lead, but it will be narrower than it is now, possibly within 100.

"Of nearly 20 million votes cast and among 4,000 or so delegates, they will be separated by a fraction on both metrics.

"How Superdelegates will decide:
Now, Obama and his supporters rightly point out time and again that delegates, not popular votes, determine who wins the nomination. True, but only if you get 2210 pledged delegates. Since neither Clinton nor Obama will reach that number -- it's the responsibility of the automatic (or "super") delegates to vote at the convention.

"You may disagree with the power and authority given to the superdelegates -- and the party could change its rules after this election -- but that's for the future. Currently there are no rules requiring the superdelegates to award the nomination to the leader of pledged delegates.

"The purpose of the superdelegates is to ensure that the best general-election candidate, and best potential president, is nominated. Any factor may be considered, including the "will of the people" as reflected in the popular vote. In fact, to overturn the peoples' choice based on the results of a complex delegate apportionment system (itself in need of reform) could backfire in November."


Posted by: Phil | May 15, 2008 6:32 PM

Yes, I don't usually post, but sometimes get a laugh out of reading them (the shorter ones anyway). I always thought JakeD posts were hilarious in their fanaticism! I am a bit disappointed now.

Posted by: Toni | May 15, 2008 6:30 PM

Obama is about to be indicted in the Rezko scandal. This cheap little hood will be out soon. See these columns at opednews.com:

Curtain Time for Barack Obama - Part III Evelyn Pringle 05/15/2008 7
Curtain Time for Barack Obama - Part II Evelyn Pringle 05/13/2008 10
Curtain Time For Barack Obama - Part I Evelyn Pringle 05/12/2008 32

Posted by: John Ryskamp | May 15, 2008 6:27 PM

Where's our inane reaction from JakeD? Maybe he's outdoors?

Posted by: Jaked2 | May 15, 2008 6:23 PM

Coming soon to a polling place near you:

A candidate that was wounded in the line of duty (twice), taken prisoner in awful conditions while never selling out his comrades or his country versus a blow snorting, latte sipping, loony left wing liberal whose only claim to fame is not being in the Senate when the Iraq war was voted on.

And people think that race is why Obama will lose in November? Yeah right. There's plenty of other reasons to hate Obama.

Posted by: Digitalman 08 | May 15, 2008 6:23 PM

"The Young and Dumb, here they come! :-("

I'm afraid you are sadly mistaken. It's remarkable how ignorant people like yourself are. They cling onto their petty fears and differences because they can't accept the truth. The young are more educated... and that broader education makes us more accepting and diverse. If you honestly can't see through McCain's worthless campaign then you are truly blind.

Posted by: Obama'08 | May 15, 2008 6:22 PM

That sounds like dream ticket, but honestly I would love to see Edwards in a more active position, like Secretary of Labor. And Hillary will still have a lot to do in NY senate. Let Obama choose his VP. He will do a great choice.

Posted by: jpAcosta | May 15, 2008 6:22 PM

This Michigan Democratic Edwards supporter is now an Obama supporter!

I would dearly love an Obama-Edwards ticket.

Posted by: Mary | May 15, 2008 6:22 PM

justadad- LOL! I was referring to the PHOTO! ;~)

In Michigan, MOST people who are not Dumb, know this Clown Legislator with Zero Executive Qualifications, to be someone who Does NOT want THEIR Votes, to "Ahem", Count! :-(

Posted by: RAT-The | May 15, 2008 6:18 PM

OBAMA / EDWARDS 08!!!!!

Posted by: puddlescited | May 15, 2008 6:16 PM

OBAMA/EDWARDS 2008!!!!!

Posted by: puddlescited | May 15, 2008 6:15 PM

Barack Obama has been pursuing a strategy to "cast a wide tent" and enlist support from a wide range of supporters. He appeals to so many people because people see in him what they want to see. The "blank canvas" strategy began in the Illinois legislature where he voted "present" rather than recording a "yeah" or "neigh" vote that would stick with him. The strategy is a significant part of why his primary bid has been as successful as it has.

Will this inclusive stance allow Mr. Obama to achieve success on the issues that progressive Americans care about? There are two concerns. First, Mr Obama has exhibited a tendency to bend and compromise rather than stick to principles (and get tagged with a label). After a nuclear waste leak in Illinois, he introduced tough legislation to regulate the industry, but then he accepted campaign contributions from the power plant owner, Excelon and allowed the legislation to be diluted to the point that it never passed. He also compromised on NAFTA, joining Bush to support the entry of Peru without human rights and labor protections.

A second concern is the that the "blank canvas" strategy will allow the opposition to define Mr. Obama the way they want to just as it allows his supporters to see their own desires in him. Today's Bush speech is just a hint at the kind of attack Mr. Obama would face as a general election candidate. Does Mr. Obama advocate appeasement? He has said that he would like to meet personally with Cesar Chavez, Kim Jung Il and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, but he has never defined what it is he would say to them. The result is that Bush's hints at appeasement are immediately interpreted as an allusion to Obama. By contrast, Hillary Clinton's views on almost every issue have been known for years making it impossible to attack her through vague allusions.

Oregonian's have an important choice to make. Will they support Mr. Obama as the pundits are all predicting, or will they step back and say "Wait a minute." If Mr. Obama is the Democratic candidate, there is a real risk that he will lead the party to a defeat of historic proportions akin to to McGovern, Mondale and Dukakis, the other Democratic candidates who won Iowa but failed to win New Hampshire. Running against war hero McCain, Obama will not carry Florida, Indiana, Ohio, West Virginia or Missouri and there is a good chance that he will lose Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and New Jersey as well. Oregenonians who truly want to advance a progressive agenda and end 8 years of Republican administration need to vote for Hillary Clinton, a woman who will win and who will not take no for an answer on issues of the environment, fair trade and equal rights.

Posted by: im4america | May 15, 2008 6:15 PM

i would like to see a step up by senator obama in courting the blue collar workers,they are the bread/basket of the amserican workers.to not pursue this group of electorate will doom his election chances in november.he cannot take for granted due to the economy being in such disarray,iraq war that the american voters will flock to him.

Posted by: ron | May 15, 2008 6:13 PM

Not young, not dumb I thank you. But some one is????

Posted by: justadad55+ | May 15, 2008 5:59 PM

Good Grief Charlie Brown!

The Young and Dumb, here they come! :-(

Posted by: RAT-The | May 15, 2008 5:51 PM

The undeclared super-delegates best not decide. It should be the American people. What happened.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 5:46 PM

If Obama loses to Hillary in Kentucky by 15pts or less and then wins Oregon by 20pts, the undeclared superdelegates will come to Obama so that by the time Puerto Rico votes, Obama will only need to Montana or South Dakota to reach 2026!!!!!

Posted by: AJ | May 15, 2008 5:40 PM

Pres Bush's decision to engage in partisan intervention. What the hell is next for you people, another war. Hilary says that new cars will pull you through. How many of you can afford a new car in the next couple of years, how many of you leased??. You will not be attacked, hopefully if you vote as the America I have known for 40 years. Man you are screwed. What a shame your great powers could not attack and control Burma. That would be the America I knew.
Life is great.

Posted by: justadad55+ | May 15, 2008 5:37 PM

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