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McCain's Grand Ambitions


Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) sits on his bus before boarding his chartered plane in Columbus, Ohio, May 15, 2008. (Associated Press)

By Dan Balz
Two things can be said about John McCain's attempt to look into the future with a major speech in Columbus Thursday. His ambitions are grand. His ability to achieve them enormously limited.

The headlines coming out of the speech are over what McCain said about withdrawing U.S. forces from Iraq. By early 2013, he said, America will have "welcomed home most of the servicemen and women" from that conflict. This is from a candidate who began his campaign as the leading advocate of sending more troops to Iraq and who helped resuscitate his flagging candidacy with a "No Surrender" tour last fall.

The political implications are clear. McCain and his advisers understand that Americans are looking for an exit strategy from the long and often bungled mission in Iraq. Not necessarily an instant or precipitous withdrawal, but a commitment to reduce the American footprint in Iraq substantially and rather quickly.

Saddled with his comment about maintaining some troop presence there for 100 years, regardless of how the words have been construed or misconstrued, McCain sought Thursday to refocus the debate about future military involvement in Iraq.

McCain's commitment differs from Barack Obama's. Obama has pledged a withdrawal timetable for combat troops of about 16 months (assuming that is logistically possible), but when he was pressed at a debate last September about whether he would pledge to withdraw all forces by the beginning of his second term, he demurred.

If Obama is the Democratic nominee, as is likely, he and McCain will have much to debate about the future of the U.S. presence there, but Thursday's speech was McCain's effort to change the terms of the debate, hopeful that his record on national security issues will give him an advantage if he acknowledges the public's dissatisfaction with an open-ended mission.

McCain's pledge, if it can be described as that, is no doubt conditions based, and in his very rosy view, the end of his first term will have brought achievements that have eluded the Bush administration. For starters, Osama bin Laden will be dead or captured, McCain said. Al-Qaeda in Iraq will be defeated and will have nowhere in the world it can call a safe haven. The government of Pakistan will have cooperated with the United States in applying the lessons of successful counterinsurgency elsewhere to the lawless areas of its country where terrorists continue to thrive.

McCain's imagined outcome is what supporters and critics of the administration have long envisioned as an ideal. But it is not immutable. What happens if civil war flares in Iraq, if violence is more than spasmodic, as he put it, if the militias are not fully disbanded, if the Iraqi Security Force remains less than professional and capable? Will he pursue a significant reduction in U.S. forces regardless?

To accomplish all McCain imagines would be extremely difficult, but at least in military and diplomatic initiatives, he would have a relatively free hand to chart his course. Accomplishing his domestic goals would require the cooperation of a Congress likely to have even larger Democratic majorities than it does now.

Would House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid embrace a big reduction in the corporate tax rate or a dramatically reformed tax code that includes a "fairer and flatter tax" than the current system? Particularly after McCain has, in his speech Thursday, promised to exercise his veto pen "several times in my first year in office"? If not, McCain gives no indication of how he would bring them around.

Can any president promise "several years of robust economic growth"? Can a President McCain get a Democratic Congress to approve new free trade agreements, particularly ones that in four years deliver enough prosperity in other parts of the world to "greatly strengthen America's security and the global progress of our political ideals"?

Hillary Clinton gave a speech in 2005 reminiscent of what McCain did on Thursday -- an idealized vision for what would happen if Democrats were in power. Her gauzy horizon at that time was what America could look like by 2020 and the world she described was even more idealized than McCain's was Thursday. But at least she gave the country 15 years to achieve so much. McCain claims he can make it happen in four years.

McCain doesn't say what policies he would put in place that would produce the kind of competition to public education from charter and private schools to ensure that test scores and graduation rates are rising "everywhere in the country." He says health care would be "more accessible to more Americans than at any other time in history" without saying how he would persuade a Democratic Congress to enact the kind of market solutions he has outlined in previous speeches.

In addition to major changes in health policy, education policy and energy policy, McCain also envisions fixing Social Security in his first term. There's no doubt that this is one of his goals and his willingness to work across party lines is probably far greater than was Bush's when he undertook his second-term initiative in 2005. But when he says the reforms include "some form of personal retirement accounts," does he mean as part of Social Security -- a non-starter to Democrats -- or separate and apart from Social Security?

All of that explains why the speech McCain gave has been greeted with skepticism -- not for its ambitions but for its realism. The presidency requires both big ambitions and the discipline to remain focused on a few big goals. McCain will have to make clear what his real priorities are -- as will Obama, whose list of goals is similar long.

There is one area where McCain can accomplish what he set out in Thursday's speech, goals that are fully within his capability as president to execute. These are in his commitment to bipartisanship, to transparency, to openness. What he said there was both important and achievable.

He promised weekly press conferences and, unlike past presidential candidates who have pledged to meet regularly with the press, has a track record of taking and answering reporters' questions. He volunteered to seek approval from Congress for an American equivalent of British "Question Time," in which the prime minister regularly takes questions from members of Parliament. He said he would populate his administration with Republicans and Democrats, and given his relationship with the opposition party, seems likely to make good on that promise.

Finally he said he would seek to diminish the "hyper-partisanship that treats every serious challenge facing us as an opportunity to trade insults, disparage each other's motives and fight about the next election." That is a challenge to Obama, whose campaign is even more grounded in changing the culture of politics than has been McCain's.

Those promises came at the end of a speech that raised as many questions about foreign and domestic policies as it answered. Because they are more within his grasp, they may be the most important things he said. The rest of the speech deserves the scrutiny it has begun to receive. Filling in the blanks there will be McCain's ongoing challenge.

Posted at 6:40 PM ET on May 15, 2008  | Category:  Dan Balz's Take
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Barren:

I'll be golfing WITH FRIENDS tomorrow -- so you "assume" wrong, but you can at least have the echo chamber all to yourself then -- is that acceptable?

Posted by: JakeD | May 16, 2008 3:46 PM

JakeDuh....would you stop spamming?

Good lord, you're annoying. I'll assume you slum in the posts because any real friends you might have had have long since distanced themselves from you.

Go outside.

Posted by: Barren | May 16, 2008 2:19 PM

I am cautiously optimistic that a McCain vs Obama campaign will be more civilized than many of the critics expect (they have their reasons, though, after the nasty presidential contests in 2K and '04).

Although I am a registered Republican, I will be voting for Senator Obama, primarily because I believe we should clearly repudiate Bush's policies almost across the board: Iraq, preemptive war, government transparency, rule of law, torture, Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib, the phoney "war on terrorism", government policies and attitudes toward science, separation of church and state.

Even so, it occurs to me that it would not be a complete tragedy if McCain were elected to inherit the unwinnable Bush war in Iraq (it will be much harder for the Neocon faction to blame others for the consequences of Bush's war...and facing the truth has value, even when we are forced to do so). Maybe only Nixon could have gone to China, and maybe only a Bush partisan will be able to prove to all that it was a terrible mistake to invade Iraq.

Posted by: Iconoblaster | May 16, 2008 1:08 PM

ATTACK! ATTACK! ATTACK! LOL! ;~)

The plain simple Fact, is that we are supporting ANOTHER GOVERNMENT. It is up to the People of Iraq to get their Shi'ite Together. Darfur and so many other Problems are also things beyond much of our ability to control.

To ASSUME so much of Others, is DELUSIONAL!

Take me for example. I'd like to ASSUME, elected Congressmen like McCain, Hillary, and Barack Hussein, would FUND for Agents to go out to the Construction Sites, Landscaping crews, Service Industries and start handing out Fines to the Employers of every Un-Documented Worker they see!

And THAT, is right here, in THIS Country, by People WANTING the Job of Enforcer of the Constitution, WHO ARE ALREADY IN A POSITION TO DO SOMETHING-That, THEY ARE NOT DOING!

But, I guess expecting the ONLY People who can do the Job we were foolish enough to elect them to do, is Assuming TOO Frigging MUCH, out of the THREE SORRY WORTHLESS P'sOS Running for the Job of President!(Of THIS Country!)

mittromney.com

Read his "Issues". They have not changed, BUT, the Issues we are facing have, AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO!

Hind sight's 20-20. We need people who can ARRANGE better events to come, NOT promise to Magically Fix problems already existing due to Laws not being Enforced by People Hired to do so!

The RIGHT PEOPLE-Romney/ Huckabee!

The WRONG PEOPLE-Any existing Congressman who has NOT been doing what needs to have already been done!

Pink Slips for Congressional Dead Weight Time!

Posted by: RAT-The | May 16, 2008 12:34 PM

One can HOPE for CHANGE!!!

Posted by: JakeD | May 16, 2008 12:30 PM

McCain says "I'm not ready to run for President" : )

Posted by: JakeD | May 16, 2008 12:20 PM

;)

Posted by: Franky | May 16, 2008 12:29 PM

Although I do understand why you might think Hillary would be a perfect fit for the "Great Flip Flopper Express", I believe its much more likely that McCain would exit the race in shame of his own actions, than Hillary joining his ticket.

Posted by: Sally | May 16, 2008 12:27 PM

...and Bush could have said:

"My grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany."

Prescott Bush also helped stage a military coup aimed at installing a fascist dictatorship in the United States."

But Bush isn't used to telling the truth.

Posted by: Marshall | May 16, 2008 12:23 PM

Five years might as well be 100 years.

Posted by: Patrick Kiger | May 16, 2008 12:20 PM

Since McCain and Obama are the presumptive nominees, I believe it is less likely that McCain says "I'm not ready to run for President" : )

Posted by: JakeD | May 16, 2008 12:20 PM

She could just as easily say "I made....
-------

Just like McCain could just as easily say "I'm not ready to run for President, but I forgot, so now lets move on and support Obama!"

Posted by: Franky | May 16, 2008 12:17 PM

McCain's "2013" speech, coupled with his previous speech on the environment, are evidence of how much difficulty he faces as a candidate. The more that he tries to moderate his positions to be closer to what the majority of the American public favors, the more that he's going to offend the hard-core conservative base. Conversely, if he tries to lock in his base, he puts himself further away from the mainstream. On Iraq, he's trying to split the difference and appease the majority who want a U.S. withdrawal, by suggesting that he'll be able to do that in five years. But that time frame is still so long that it might as well be 100 years to the American public, the majority of whom already have concluded that the war isn't worth the cost and want out now.

Posted by: Patrick Kiger | May 16, 2008 12:15 PM

>>
Saddam HUSSEIN!
BARACK HUSSEIN!

LOL - I think it funny how scared the Republicans are of a name.

Bunch of cowards.

Posted by: Franky | May 16, 2008 12:15 PM

Sally and AJ:

She could just as easily say "I made a GRAVE error in thinking Sen. Obama was ready for the White House. That's why I've accepted this task from the next President of the United States, John SIDNEY McCain!"

Posted by: JakeD | May 16, 2008 12:14 PM

The Republicans are planning to put everybody on Effexor XR if they get elected. It is a medium strength mood elevator. That won't change anything, but you won't give crap about it.

Posted by: oldman&theC | May 16, 2008 12:12 PM

tanaS-Just trying to be a Good ATTACK RAT! :-D

Would "Barry" Supporters mind if we changed our Candidates? ;~)

Being, as how you are Stuck with B.Hussein O.! :-(

Posted by: RAT-The | May 16, 2008 12:07 PM

rat the:
Simple pleasures for the simple-minded.

Posted by: tanaS | May 16, 2008 12:00 PM

Saddam HUSSEIN! Tyrant, Murderer, Supporter of World Labor Party(Against Bush), Egomaniac, Oppressor, EVIL!

Saddam HUSSEIN!
Barack HUSSEIN!
Saddam HUSSEIN!
Barack HUSSEIN!
Saddam HUSSEIN!
BARACK HUSSEIN!

LOL! That IS Fun! :-D

Posted by: RAT-The | May 16, 2008 11:53 AM

RepubliCAN
Attack
Team-The.

LMFAO! :-D

Shame I am a Surf Rat Team of ONE! ;~)

Now, for a dose of Input:

McSame's speech writers really need to prepare for the notorious Out of Context Smears the Loony Left Lives for!

Say: "By 2013(End of Term) that the conflicts in Iraq are over", and it becomes: We will be fighting conflicts until 2013! :-(

It is sort of like even mentioning Race, your best off NOT!

Attack RAT-The

Posted by: RAT-The | May 16, 2008 11:45 AM

Goodness gracious ! The Republican Attack Teams (also known by the acronym "RATs") will be in their splendourous 'display' for the next six months and McBush's 'Straight-Talk Express' has just been re-named the "Straight-Trash Express " !
I fully encourage their present behaviour, so that the whole world will once again be witness to their smear-ridden, gutter-politics to which they have always resorted to, because of their pathetic record on all issues, foreign and domestic !!

Posted by: Hussien for America | May 16, 2008 11:37 AM

Goodness gracious ! The Republican Attack Teams (also known by the acronym "RATs") will be in their splendorous 'display' for the next six months and McBush's 'Straight-Talk Express' has just been re-named the "Straight-Trash Express " !
I fully encourage their present behaviour, so that the whole world will once again be witness to their smear-ridden, gutter-politics to which they have always resorted to, because of their pathetic record on all issues, foreign and domestic !!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 16, 2008 11:35 AM

People wonder if John McCain is healthy enough to be president, a question that was never asked of FDR. Meanwhile, a youthful Barack Obama says that he is busily campaigning in each of the 57 states. May 9, Obama told an Oregon audience that "I've been in 57 states, I think one left to go."
We know campaigning is hard work and that slips of the tongue go with the territory. But, hey, the man is 46 and bowls and plays basketball, right? Imagine if these words had come from McCain. The press would accuse him of having a "senior moment."


Yes, it's true that when young Mr. Obama was romping on the sandy beaches of Hawaii at age 6, McCain was fighting for his country and carrying on that fight for 5 1/2 years in a North Vietnamese prison that made Abu Ghraib look like Club Med. But we find the endless barrage by the mainstream media about McCain's age, mental acuity and physical condition an offensive cheap shot.

Reagan is reputed to have nodded off at cabinet meetings, and all he did was pull off an economic renaissance and defeat communism. Barack Obama is young, but his liberal politics are old. That's what people should worry about.

Posted by: Mr. Sherman | May 16, 2008 11:17 AM

Exposing Karl Rove
by WAYNE MADSEN

He's America's Joseph Goebbels. As a 21-year old Young Republican in Texas, Karl Rove not only pimped for Richard Nixon's chief political dirty tricks strategist Donald Segretti but soon caught the eye of the incoming Republican National Committee Chairman, George H. W. Bush. Rove's dirty tricks on behalf of Nixon's 1972 campaign catapulted Rove onto the national stage. From his Eagle's Nest in the West Wing of the White House, Rove now directs a formidable political dirty tricks operation and disinformation mill.

Since his formative political years when he tried to paint World War II B-24 pilot and hero George McGovern as a left-wing peacenik through his mid-level career as a planter of disinformation in the media on behalf of Texas and national GOP candidates to his current role as Dubya's "Svengali," Rove has practiced the same style of slash and burn politics as did his Nixonian mentor Segretti. Many of us remember the Lincolnesque Senator Ed Muskie breaking down in tears during the 1972 campaign over Segretti-planted false stories in a New Hampshire newspaper that accused Mrs. Muskie of being a heavy smoker, drinker, and cusser and accused Muskie of uttering a slur in describing New Hampshire's French Canadian population. Rove's hero also forged letters on fake Muskie campaign letterhead, disrupted rallies and fundraising dinners, and spread false stories about the sex lives of candidates. Segretti's brush also smeared George McGovern, George Wallace, Shirley Chisholm, and McGovern's first vice presidential choice, Senator Tom Eagleton. Segretti of course did not go on to a high-level White House job -- he was sentenced to six months in federal prison for distributing illegal campaign material.

In many respects, however, the apprentice Rove has far exceeded the chicanery and evil-mindedness of his mentor Segretti. Rove is a tech-savvy puppet master for Bush. Take, for example, last June's discovery of a "lost" CD-ROM in Lafayette Park across from the White House. Contained on the CD was a PowerPoint presentation given by White House political director Ken Mehlman to Rove on the strategy for next Tuesday's off-year election. The slide show showed First Brother Jeb Bush being vulnerable in Florida. Jeb Bush later joked that the disc was part of a plot cooked up by him and his brother to make it appear that he was vulnerable in order to rally an otherwise complacent GOP base in the Sunshine State. Or was it a joke? Jeb Bush and his political minions like Katherine Harris have shown us that if anyone thinks what the GOP has done in Florida is funny they have an incredibly sick sense of humor.

Rove's own tendency to be sick-minded originates with his mentor Segretti. The 2000 GOP primary was a chance for Rove to hone his skills in dirty tricks. His target then was Senator John McCain who appeared to be within striking distance of Dubya in South Carolina after the then-GOP maverick's surprise upset victory in New Hampshire. Rove's operation proceeded to target McCain with false stories: McCain was a stoolie for his captors in the Hanoi Hilton (this from a lunatic self-promoting Vietnam "veteran"); McCain fathered a black daughter out of wedlock (a despicable reference to McCain's adopted Bangladeshi daughter); Cindy McCain's drug "abuse"; and even McCain's "homosexuality." In the spirit of Segretti, Rove engineered a victory for Dubya but at the cost of trashing an honorable man and his family. Muskie, McGovern, Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Gore, Hart, Tsongas, Clinton, Biden, Dole, Perot, and others had all seen the Segretti/Rove slash and burn tactics before.

And Rove's penchant for fascistic demagoguery and outright lying continues to this very day. After Paul Wellstone's sons asked that Vice President Dick Cheney not attend the Minneapolis memorial service for their father, mother, and sister, the White House explained that the real reason wasn't the surviving Wellstone family's abhorrence for Cheney but the fact the family didn't want Cheney's Secret Service protection to interfere with public access to the service. Of course, the Rove and Ari Fleischer disinformation machine forgot to take into account that two attendees, Bill and Hillary Clinton, had their own Secret Service details. But such is the case with a White House that takes its lessons from Goebbels and the editorial staff of the old Soviet News Agency Tass.

Rove's dirty fingerprints could also be seen in the Iowa Senate race between Tom Harkin and GOP candidate Greg Ganske. A few months ago, a story was leaked that the Harkin campaign had employed a spy within the Ganske campaign. To put this in a Rove context, we must go back to the 1986 Texas gubernatorial race in which Rove's candidate Bill Clements was taking on Democratic Governor Mark White. Just before a debate between the two candidates, Rove spun the story that his office had been bugged. No proof. But the insinuation that White's people had carried out the bugging was reported by the media. In the election, Clements defeated White. Rove stashed away more political capital into his already heavy knapsack of ill-gotten IOUs.

During the 2000 presidential campaign, we were obviously treated to more Rove chicanery when the following Associated Press story hit the wires: "A woman who worked for a media company that produced ads for President George W. Bush's campaign was indicted for secretly mailing a videotape of Bush practicing for a debate to Vice President Al Gore's campaign." Yes, that videotape, along with a 120-page briefing book, just happened to turn up in Gore's headquarters as fast as the CD-ROM turned up in Lafayette Park. The sourcerer Segretti must be very proud of his apprentice. In 1980, no Republican bemoaned the fact that Jimmy Carter's debate briefing book was swiped and found its way into the hands of the Reagan-Bush campaign. In Rove's world, its only an affront when someone "steals" your own campaign secrets and not when your are on the receiving end of a heist.

"If you're not with me, you're against me." Bush's binary view of "good and evil" and "friend and enemy" sits well with the Rove strategy. Georgia's conservative but libertarian-minded Representative Bob Barr found out about this in last August's primary when his GOP primary opponent John Linder began spreading around stories that Barr was "soft on terrorism." Because Barr was skeptical about a number of aspects of the Bush-Ashcroft USA PATRIOT Act, he became a target for the Rove machine. However, it was likely that Barr became a target earlier on when he supported Steve Forbes against Bush in the 2000 primary. Bush apparently means to say, "If you've not always been with me, you're against me." It must have really been a dilemma for Bush and Rove to have to come to the support of John Sununu, Jr. in the New Hampshire Senate race. Although Daddy made George W. unceremoniously give the axe to Sununu's father as White House Chief of Staff during the Bush 41 administration, the man who the junior Sununu defeated in the primary, Bob Smith, was even more of a problem. He had the temerity to quit the Republican Party in 2000 and run against Dubya for President. So in Bushspeak, which is obviously borrowed from Forrest Gump's scripts, "if you're less with me than the other guy, you're more against me."

Undoubtedly, Rove was also behind the campaign to "get" Georgia Representative Cynthia McKinney who was the first nationally-known politician to question what Bush may have known beforehand about 9-11. She was defeated by a former Republican state judge who had supported the wacky Alan Keyes for President in 2000. Never mind, McKinney was "less with Bush" than Keyes, so it was more important to get McKinney who was "more against" Bush.

In all seriousness, rewarding the GOP on November 5 will only increase the appetite of Rove to amass more and more power into the White House. The advent of a Democratic-controlled Senate and House might even begin to spell the end of the road for Segretti's star pupil. German opposition figures in the mid-1930s often lamented the fact that they could have stopped the rise of the Nazis if only they had been more united in a common front when they had a chance. However, they fell prey to the media manipulation of Goebbels and fought among themselves more than they did against the menace from the far right. We Americans also have an early opportunity to stem an out-of-control and anti-constitutional regime with the Rasputin-like Rove at the after steerage helm of our ship of state. That opportunity presents itself next Tuesday--Election Day.

Wayne Madsen is a Washington, DC-based investigative journalist and columnist. He wrote the introduction to Forbidden Truth.

Posted by: corrugated love dumbletons... | May 16, 2008 10:56 AM

I'm not surprised that John McCain pictures "most" US troops out of Iraq 5 years from now. What astonishes me is that the media criticize his wish list for being "rosy". Dan Balz says it's one of McCain's "grand ambitions"!

Most Americans want this war concluded long before 2013. Very few of us are prepared for a President who tells them in 2013 "Of course my wish list wasn't a timetable, my hope of just 5 more years of war did turn out to be too rosy, but if you re-elect me I really hope that by the end of my second term in 2017 most of the troops will be withdrawn. If not, my good friend Jeb Bush has already assured me that he'll take over; he's kinda sure that he can achieve victory by 2021 ... or thereabouts."

Any President who drags this war out one day longer than necessary will have the people to deal with, and anyone in the media who says it should drag on that long needs his press credentials removed.

Posted by: Stephen Voss | May 16, 2008 10:49 AM

Obama can't handle the job.


Edwards is a "populist," not that it matters really....it's just a term tossed around by fearful elitists, to describe those that hate them for their greediness...


neither Edwards nor Obama, can tell the difference between a friend and an enemy,

they don't have that level of personal sophistication...


they seek approval. a very dangerous thing, when INSIDER WASHINGTON only gives approval to get what they want...


you could have a patent on "the electric lightbulb," and they would turn it down as
"too radical" if they had friends in the candlemaking industry...


and that is a mxxxxx fxxxing fact...it's how they interact...


neither Edwards nor Obama, can tell the difference between a friend and an enemy,

they don't have that level of personal sophistication...


they seek approval. a very dangerous thing, when INSIDER WASHINGTON only gives approval to get what they want...
if they get in, AMERICA's way of life is dead...


they lack sophistication and saavy at the world level...


maybe Amercrombie and Fitch can use them in a jeans ad.


Hillary, is really the only candidate offered at this point, capable of leading us out of the swamp.


but you know that, which is why you are trying to prevent that from happening...


CIA BACKED REPUBLICKSCAMMERS...

Posted by: grow up toads... | May 16, 2008 10:29 AM

Director Donahue discusses 'Body of War'


05/16/2008

Former daytime talk-show host Phil Donahue has made his film directing debut with "Body of War," a documentary about Tomas Young, a paralyzed Iraq war veteran from Kansas City. REVIEW

Vital documentary looks at human cost of war

We spoke with Donahue last September at the Toronto International Film Festival.

Q: Are you in hopeful that this film can make a positive contribution to debate about the war?

A: We don't want to get struck down by cynicism. Throughout my own career, I've talked to so many brave dissenters. And I came to the conclusion that there are three phases of commitment.

The first phase in the fun one, where everyone marches and sings "We Shall Overcome," and you get so pumped up on feeling virtuous that you can't actually converse with anybody.

The second phase is where you begin to realize how enormous the problem is, where you are a feather and it is the rock of Gibraltar. And the third phase is when cynicism sets in. Then you go in either of two directions. You can either drop out, take guitar lessons and live in a Volkswagen in New Mexico or you keep on keepin' on.

Think about all those people standing alone on a street corner holding a sign. Nobody's interviewing them, nobody's taking their picture. Yet it turns out there are a whole bunch of them. They are appalled at what's happening to our country, and they are working at it, going to rallies, going to meetings in church basements. They're still out there.

But they've been marginalized by the mainstream media, all of whom supported the war, and the right wing continues to say that if you oppose the war, you are unpatriotic, you don't support the troops, you're just another tax-and-spend liberal who blames America first.

Q: You had the highest-rated show on MSNBC, yet you were canceled during the run-up to the war and replaced with a conservative, Dennis Miller. How did you feel about that?

A: America had war fever at the time. A corporate memo was later leaked to The New York Times that said that "Donahue's anti-war voice is a difficult sell when the competition is waving the flag."

The board members of the five or seven corporations that control the media in this country don't want to go against the administration, especially when they're trying to get deregulated so they can buy more bandwidth and broadcast outlets.

The worst thing you can call a journalist these days is "liberal." They're terrified of the word. It's not good for business.

Yet at the time when we need free speech the most, when we're considering sending men like Tomas to fight and die on foreign battlefields to save our way of life, we're told to shut up and sing.

But if we're not allowed to use the free speech that we're supposedly fighting for, stop wasting that blood. Do we really just want the trains to run on time and old men behind closed doors to tell us what's good for us?

BY JOE WILLIAMS

Posted by: hello toads... | May 16, 2008 10:28 AM

THE WORLD (EUROPE, CHINA, RUSSIA, SAUDI ARABIA, SOUTH AMERICA)


THE WORLD IS WATCHING AMERICA'S 2008 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
THE WORLD IS WATCHING AMERICA'S 2008 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
THE WORLD IS WATCHING AMERICA'S 2008 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
THE WORLD IS WATCHING AMERICA'S 2008 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
THE WORLD IS WATCHING AMERICA'S 2008 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
THE WORLD IS WATCHING AMERICA'S 2008 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
THE WORLD IS WATCHING AMERICA'S 2008 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

AND THE WORLD WILL JUDGE IF AMERICA IS SUITED TO BE ITS MORAL LEADER.
AND THE WORLD WILL JUDGE IF AMERICA IS SUITED TO BE ITS MORAL LEADER.
AND THE WORLD WILL JUDGE IF AMERICA IS SUITED TO BE ITS MORAL LEADER.
AND THE WORLD WILL JUDGE IF AMERICA IS SUITED TO BE ITS MORAL LEADER.
AND THE WORLD WILL JUDGE IF AMERICA IS SUITED TO BE ITS MORAL LEADER.
AND THE WORLD WILL JUDGE IF AMERICA IS SUITED TO BE ITS MORAL LEADER.
AND THE WORLD WILL JUDGE IF AMERICA IS SUITED TO BE ITS MORAL LEADER.

This is a pivotal time in American history.

Will America run a dignified 2008 presidential election?

Or will America allow Hillbillies to take over the media and orchestrate the message of hate that will shock the watching World?

A barrel of oil was $24 when Bush took office.

It's time for America to nationalize Oil and the Energy Industries for National Defense.

Rich Oil billionaires and Wall Street (super-capitalism) selling out Our Country for their own selfish profits is unpatriotic and treason.

America belongs to Americans and not to Wall Street sell-out super-capitalists.

Hillary does not appear very patriotic staying in a loss race strictly to gather more money to store in her $109,000,000 favor money chest that she and Billy received from South American cartels.

Is Hillary working for the Democrats?

Is Hillary working for All Americans?

Hillary is working for herself and has become and unpatriotic joke.

McCentury McSame (Bush Part III) wants to continue Bush's failed policies.

McSame (Bush III) is not very smart and will go after Hillary's Hillbilly and pig farmers votes.

Posted by: IBMWorst | May 16, 2008 10:26 AM


Obama can't handle the job.


Edwards is a "populist," not that it matters really....it's just a term tossed around by fearful elitists, to describe those that hate them for their greediness...


neither Edwards nor Obama, can tell the difference between a friend and an enemy,

they don't have that level of personal sophistication...


they seek approval. a very dangerous thing, when INSIDER WASHINGTON only gives approval to get what they want...


you could have a patent on "the electric lightbulb," and they would turn it down as
"too radical" if they had friends in the candlemaking industry...


and that is a mxxxxx fxxxing fact...it's how they interact...


neither Edwards nor Obama, can tell the difference between a friend and an enemy,

they don't have that level of personal sophistication...


they seek approval. a very dangerous thing, when INSIDER WASHINGTON only gives approval to get what they want...
if they get in, AMERICA's way of life is dead...


they lack sophistication and saavy at the world level...


maybe Amercrombie and Fitch can use them in a jeans ad.


Hillary, is really the only candidate offered at this point, capable of leading us out of the swamp.


but you know that, which is why you are trying to prevent that from happening...


CIA BACKED REPUBLICKSCAMMERS...

Posted by: grow up toads... | May 16, 2008 10:23 AM

What McCain presented is not vision, but wishful thinking. For votes, he reluctantly started voicing some of the items on democratic agenda e.g. pull out of troops from Iraq (though by the time he will not be there in the office), global warming, etc. But he has no clue about how to achieve them, because they are not his plans; they are simply copied without any understanding (just like the kids who cheat in the exams). A dull speaker as he is on top of it, he will impress none. He is bound to lose in the GE.

Posted by: TwentyFirstCentury American | May 16, 2008 10:13 AM

I saw McCain talking yesterday. I watched for a few minutes and realized how much he reminded me of the doddering figure that was James Stockdale on stage during the debates in 1992 when he was Ross Perot's vice -presidential candidate.This guy is over the hill.

Posted by: majorteddy | May 16, 2008 9:52 AM

I don't think this guy has anyone around him giving him any useful advice. He is looking really wacky already and the race hasn't even started yet. This is going to be painful to watch over the next few months

Posted by: Anonymous | May 16, 2008 9:47 AM

By 2013 President mcCain states that senior citizens eating what they can afford, 'Ole' Roy', contains the "...essential elements of good nutrition." Gasoline is $8.00/gallon, when an occasional federal mandated first three days of the month is in effect. The US has declared bankruptcy, and inflation forces people to bring cash in their car trunks, no checks are accepted because the daily rate of inflation is so high, and buy what is stocked by 4 am. Federak troops have replaced police agencies because most cities have gone broke. Ah the life of Americans if McSame gets elected.

Posted by: tanaS | May 16, 2008 9:45 AM

First it was 50 to 100 to 10000 years now in a senior moment the Iraq war will be over in 5 years. No explanation just a sort of vision. "Like the economy is alright as I see it" It is actually Ol man McCains version of Dumbmander's " No Plan" plan for Iraq. The vision for Bushco's third term. More tax cuts for people who make $200,000 a year whom Mc Bush considers to be the " Middle Class" ,Tax cuts that will cost the US Treasury 1 1/2 trillion dollars at a time when the national debt has increased by $6 trillion in the past 7 1/2 years. Oh well Mc Bush says he doesn't know anything about economics, we should believe him

Posted by: Hodog | May 16, 2008 8:59 AM

And a pony in every pot too.

Posted by: Joel | May 16, 2008 8:49 AM

How does McCain envisage getting from here to there? What does he envision doing after 2013, how and why?

What he's offered so far is not a plan or even a proposal. It's a fantasy, or maybe that form of fantasy known as delusion.

Posted by: FirstMouse | May 16, 2008 8:10 AM

One thing about Obama's middle name -- it encourages people who are too shy or too sly to admit their racism to come right out and admit it. Referring to him as "Barack HUSSEIN Obama," emphasizing his middle name, is the new way to say you hate arabs or blacks, or both, if you happen to lack the guts to announce your sad racism out loud.

Posted by: eshacklee | May 16, 2008 7:56 AM

Dan Balz says McCain is "hopeful that his record on national security issues will give him an advantage." Hey Dan -- what "record on national security issues" do you refer to? That he has been devastatingly wrong for years on Iraq, the single most important foreign policy decision of our generation? That he doesnt understand the difference between appeasement and diplomacy? That he has learned nothing from our current predicament? Why do you state as fact that he has a good national security record, when the opposite is true? Its this kind of lazy reporting that frustrates so many people and ensures that so many more will remain uninformed.

Posted by: Rob M. | May 16, 2008 7:47 AM

With no HRC this has become the most boring race in our life time.

Two white guys (typical) seeing who can unload the most BS.

I can go to any bar in Central PA to see that crap.

Before it is over there will be less space between JMac and Obambi then HRC and Obambi.

Even the crazyness of the Obambi supporters does nothing for me.


ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Posted by: mul | May 16, 2008 6:35 AM

Should be called, "MCCAINS GRAND DELUSION".

Posted by: Anonymous | May 16, 2008 2:17 AM

McCain was for talking to Hamas before he was against. Check out the video

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Posted by: G Mann | May 16, 2008 1:29 AM

You can see it now, 2013, McCain on an aircraft carrier under a banner saying "Mission Accomplished."

We've heard this one before.

Posted by: Six | May 16, 2008 12:46 AM

Posted by: pubichaironmycokecan | May 16, 2008 12:45 AM

John McCain in the first place has no smarts at all and as well is to old to run for President at age 70. The man is just as incompetent and stupid as George Walker Bush and maybe the two are related as they are both "Dumber than a Sack of Hammers".

John McCain better forget about being President and just worry about how his wife will look after him when he comes down with Alzheimer's and his wife has to change his diapers. The man is delusional at this point and things will only get worse.

Posted by: morriso | May 16, 2008 12:22 AM

--Hillary Clinton declared recently:

"I'm going to work my heart out for WHOEVER our nominee is. Obviously, I'm still hoping to be that nominee, but I'm going to do everything I can to make sure that anyone who supported me ... understands what a GRAVE error it would be not to vote for Sen. Obama."

Posted by: Sally | May 15, 2008 11:45 PM

JakeD...sounds sort of crazy like that Hillary-supporter Lenny Davis.

Hillary has already said any Democrats thinking about supporting McCain really need a gut check. The positions of McCain are vastly different than the Democratic nominee.

McCain's vision is empty and hollow. He provided no detailed policies on how to achieve any of his visions for 2013. McCain is just a watered-down version of GW Bush! No thanks.

Obama in 08!

Posted by: AJ | May 15, 2008 10:56 PM

Sally:

You don't think ANY of the 17 million Hillary voters would follow her over to a McCain-Clinton ticket?

Posted by: JakeD | May 15, 2008 8:26 PM
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I think many more Republicans would leave than Democrats join.

But thats about as relevant as:
Do you think more Republicans would vote for McCain if he selected Charlie Manson as his VP?

Posted by: Sally | May 15, 2008 10:33 PM

Get on the WAVE of 13,500,000 new
DEMS

ROCKING THE GOP IN STRONGHOLDS IL_MISS_LOUISIANA

AND WINNING 50 STATES

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 10:03 PM

OBAMA MOVEMENT

BE THERE OR BE SQUARE

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 10:02 PM

Someone teach McCain and Bush what Appeasement is

Never mind they are too old and dumb

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 10:00 PM

Bryan:

Are you claiming that I said that?

Posted by: JakeD | May 15, 2008 9:38 PM

For anyone who wants to discuss either scenario, let me know. I will note that RealClearPolitics does "count" the total number of actual votes cast (including Florida and Michigan) as 16,934,160 -- maybe I was off in adding my numbers up, but I was close -- allow me to rephrase my question:

You don't think ANY of the 16,934,160 Hillary voters would follow her over to a McCain-Clinton ticket?

Posted by: JakeD | May 15, 2008 9:37 PM

Pleease... this is the same guy who thinks that if only we would have kept napalming Vietnamese villages, we would have won Vietnam.

Posted by: Bryan | May 15, 2008 9:34 PM

I'd like to discuss the moon being made of cheese. Anyone else?

15,511,003 Votes for Hillary (Of course if it fits your argument you will include FL and MI even though ALL dem candidates signed the pledge that those delegates would not be seated and the votes would not be included)
Odd i dont see too many folks jumping at the chance to talk about the moon being made of cheese nor your delusional McCain/Hillary ticket.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

Good night all. Be safe. Even you delsusional folks

Posted by: feastorafamine | May 15, 2008 9:32 PM

If anyone else does want to discuss a McCain-Clinton ticket, just let me know. Also, unless I messed up the math, Hillary DIANE Clinton has received (almost) 17 million votes: 16,983,297

Source: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/candidates/#1746

Posted by: JakeD | May 15, 2008 9:26 PM

Anyone else?

Posted by: JakeD | May 15, 2008 9:19 PM

Churchill was elected for his last term in his golden years;
Many of the best prime ministers of Israels were much older than McCain. I'll take experience and age over inexperience and liars (Obama) anytime. Just read Obama's books; you will see that he does not like white people.I read them.

Posted by: Clyde Nugget | May 15, 2008 9:17 PM

Churchill was elected for his last term in his golden years;
Many of the best prime ministers of Israels were much older than McCain. I'll take experience and age over inexperience and liars (Obama) anytime. Just read Obama's books; you will see that he does not like white people.I read them.

Posted by: Clyde Nugget | May 15, 2008 9:17 PM

Its not hypothetical. Its delusional and a waste of time. Why not discuss a Rove/Pelosi ticket?
Also-
KENNEDY - Name Meaning & Origin
Definition: Ugly head; one who had an ugly head
Surname Origin: Irish, Scottish (Scots Gaelic)

http://genealogy.about.com/library/surnames/k/bl_name-KENNEDY.htm

This little bit of trivia is about as useful as your incessant need to use Obama's middle name.

Jake - Name meaning & Origin

Delusional, desperate, with an unstoppable impulse to instill fear.

Posted by: feastorafamine | May 15, 2008 9:15 PM

feastorafamine:

The sky is blue over here. Sorry if my scenario was too hypothetical for you to even discuss.

Anyone else?

Posted by: JakeD | May 15, 2008 9:10 PM

Again. What color is the sky in your world? A McCain/Clinton ticket WILL NEVER happen. Lets stick to reality shall we?(Also Hillary has recieved 15 million votes not 17 mill)Niether McCain OR Hillary would touch one another with a 10 foot poll. Using Joe Lieberman as some sort of example is another chunk of nonsense. Joe is a conservative, no matter what party he uses to get elected. POLICIES define candidates. The POLICIES of McCain and Hillary are night and day. I say this in defense of Hillary. I would bet my house, farm, dog, first born child, right arm and my mommas money maker that this obscenely riduculous theory of a McCain/Hillary ticket will never happen. Really, seriously, lets get back to earth here.

Posted by: feastorafamine | May 15, 2008 9:07 PM

An elderly (older than 76?) statesman:

As I said, if he can make it close here in California, I will definitely vote for John SIDNEY McCain over Barack HUSSEIN Obama.

Posted by: JakeD | May 15, 2008 8:58 PM

feastorafamine:

There are upwards of 17 million Hillary voters out there (maybe even more after Rev. Wright hit the fan / early states with Buyer's Remorse over Obama) -- they were called every name in the book by Obama supporters -- so, it could definitely put New York and California in play. Don't dismiss it completely -- Joe Lieberman's name was floated not so long ago too -- of course, McCain would lose some GOP votes, but would that offset the potentional gains? It's a pure numbers question, putting all the politics aside.

Posted by: JakeD | May 15, 2008 8:57 PM

McCain is, to me obviously, the inferior candidate. After all, who would vote for the party of the numbchuckle who put us in our current situation?Of course, with McCain we get the same. Fear is important I guess..of what..how about of them.My confidence in this country is continuously challenged. Oh wait, who is the current president. All you 30 somethings better figure it out, or we are doomed. Facts rule.

Posted by: An elderly statesman | May 15, 2008 8:56 PM

There's mo place like home... there's no place like home....Wake up Senator ... you need to take your meds.

Posted by: Ron | May 15, 2008 8:51 PM

And this poll says it all. You won't believe these results!

http://www.votenic.com

Posted by: votenik | May 15, 2008 8:48 PM

McCain picking Hillary as a running mate?
WOW
WOW
What color is the sky in your world?
That is one of the most ridiculous assertions i have EVER heard. McCain has already struggled to divorce himself of the notion that he entertained being Kerry's VP. Also he still is flip-flopping all over the map in an attempt to appease the far right and find greater unity within the Repub party. So HE would NEVER entertian that idea.
Next up is the idea that Hillary would accept such an offer. That wwould destroy her politically and in NO way shape or form would she EVER entertain the idea. There are these little things caled POLICIES that have a strange way of insuring we have political rivals in the first place. This concept of a McCain/Clinton ticket is yet one more example of the FOLLY that is JAKE D. My dog's burps have more intellectual merit. KOOKY.

Posted by: feastorafamine | May 15, 2008 8:48 PM

steve boyington:

I've assumed that you've never voted for a Republican President in your lifetime -- I at least voted for JFK -- so, what difference would it make anyways?

Posted by: JakeD | May 15, 2008 8:45 PM

I haven't been this impressed with the courage of a Republican since George Bush offered to have non-mandatory caps on CO2 emissions to reduce them by 20% by 2025. Wait, maybe it was when W announced his budget that would balance by 2015... if you don't count his war spending.

McCain says they may come out by 2013.. after his first term. Courage!

Kick the bums out... way out.

Posted by: steve boyington | May 15, 2008 8:42 PM

You probably thought that Lamont was going to beat Lieberman two years ago too ...

Posted by: JakeD | May 15, 2008 8:27 PM

Sally:

You don't think ANY of the 17 million Hillary voters would follow her over to a McCain-Clinton ticket?

Posted by: JakeD | May 15, 2008 8:26 PM

Kent:

That really doesn't answer any of my questions. I'll try one more time -- did you hear the news today about the California Supreme Court declaring same-sex marriage legal? There will be a huge conservative turnout in November for the Constitutional Amendment to overrule that decision. Whether McCain can put California in play probably depends on his choice for VP. Also, I am not a Republican, but I won't be voting for Obama regardless.

Posted by: JakeD | May 15, 2008 8:24 PM

How many more votes could he get if he selects Hillary to run as Vice-President?

Posted by: JakeD | May 15, 2008 8:08 PM
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I'd guess about -35% to -50%.
McCain might just be that dumb!

Posted by: Sally | May 15, 2008 8:21 PM

McCain:

"And I believe that the success will be fairly easy" and "There's no doubt in my mind that... we will be welcomed as liberators."  [CNN, Larry King Live, 9/24/02. MSNBC, Hardball, 3/24/03]

"I think we could go in with much smaller numbers than we had to do in the past... I don't believe it's going to be nearly the size and scope that it was in 1991."  [Face the Nation, 9/15/02]

"There's not a history of clashes that are violent between Sunnis and Shias. So I think they can probably get along." [MSNBC Hardball, 4/23/03]

When McCain was asked "at what point will America be able to say the war was won?" He responded, "...it's clear that the end is, is, is very much in sight." [ABC, "Good Morning America," 4/9/03]

"Overall, I think a year from now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course."  [The Hill, 12/8/05 (Exactly one year before violence in Iraq peaked)]

McDENIAL

Posted by: MsSwin | May 15, 2008 8:18 PM

"The Change You Deserve"

CLINICAL TRIALS HAVE SHOWN:

The new and improved Republican Platform Prescription XR for America produces side effects including but not limited to generalized anxiety disorder, social anxiety disorder, panic disorder, nervousness, yawning, and/or sweating.

Studies have shown a propensity for abnormal vision, impotence, nausea (31%) and constipation (10%).

Also revealed were increased instances of depression, decreased libido, agitation, nightmares, delirium, blurred vision and difficulty focusing.

Known to cause loss of appetite, cold feet, postural hypotension and hemorrhoids (see Bend Over For Bush Syndrome).

Most common side effect is flatulence and political irritability.

Less common side effects include acne and/or pustular rash.

Not a controlled substance and has not been studied in clinical trials regarding potential for abuse.

For further information see Effexor XR for additional warnings.

Consult your family doctor if symptoms persist for more than four years.

Posted by: MsSwin | May 15, 2008 8:17 PM

Kent:

If he makes it close here in California, I will definitely vote for John SIDNEY McCain over Barack HUSSEIN Obama. Does that count as "support"? My last count had him at 8,860,853 total votes. Do any of those count as "support"?

How many more votes could he get if he selects Hillary to run as Vice-President?

Posted by: JakeD | May 15, 2008 8:08 PM
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Seeing as it won't be close, I guess you'll be voting Obama. Glad to know Republicans might still have one brain cell still firing.

Posted by: Kent | May 15, 2008 8:17 PM

John McCain seriously violated the Military Code of Conduct by trading "military information" and making numerous public statements favorable to the communist war effort in exchange for "special treatment."

I wonder if he will continue to give away US secrets in exchange for special treatment from our enemies?

Posted by: Franky | May 15, 2008 8:12 PM

Kent:

If he makes it close here in California, I will definitely vote for John SIDNEY McCain over Barack HUSSEIN Obama. Does that count as "support"? My last count had him at 8,860,853 total votes. Do any of those count as "support"?

How many more votes could he get if he selects Hillary to run as Vice-President?

Posted by: JakeD | May 15, 2008 8:08 PM


From: Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/05/change-that-you-deserve.html

Wednesday, May 14, 2008
The Change That You Deserve

From the Chicago Tribune:

"The slogan unveiled this week by House Republicans - "Change you deserve" - is already a trademark used by Wyeth Pharmaceuticals to market its antidepressant Effexor XR."

Black Screen.

Fade into:

Scene of a thin grey haired man standing in a green field. Behind him we can see the sun is rising.

"I got the change I deserved with GOP"

Cut to a small child, in a sun dress, who looks up at him and smiles.

"I was tired, listless. I had lost interest in my usual activities--creating false attacks, acting as if I had been unfairly attacked about issues created out of whole cloth, drawing specious historical parallels, fawning over ideologically bankrupt manufactured father figures. Sure, I sent emails claiming that Obama was a Muslim, but somehow...it had lost the spark, the enjoyment of everyday life."

Cut to a child who rides by on a bicycle, and throws a newspaper on the front porch.

"That's when I found GOP."

Cut to man rowing in a scull across a still river. He turns to the camera, smiles.

"In clinical studies, GOP has been found to increase aggressiveness in the absence of actual provocation in 8 out of 10 users. In most users, the desire to gleefully attack returns in 1 week. Full enthusiasm for invented ideas in two. "

Cut to image of porch swing.

"With GOP, my attention to minor distractions fully returned, until I was again building them into major accusations of flawed character. Once again, my intense focus on pins, buttons, sentences fragments and remote relationships as absolute indications of personal virtue and ability was at its peak. For an entire weekend, I could one again choose the right moment to accuse a candidate of treason without cause--when I was ready, when the time felt right".

Cut to a series of blurred images: long, stringy haired teens in torn jeans and ironic 80's t-shirts lounging by the Washington Monument; picture of John Kerry in a Swift Boat during Vietnam;
Eiffel Tower. Plate of Arugula. During these images, rapid voiceover in female voice:

"GOP may cause monosyllabism, inability to consider two differing concepts at the same time, memory loss or inaccurate recall of recently and repeatedly presented intelligence information, focus on size of automobiles or koro, sequential nicknaming, knowing mischaracterization, hooting. If you have a desire to read the collected works of Ann Coulter that lasts longer than four hours, this may be a sign of a dangerous condition and you should contact your physician immediately."

Cut back to man standing in field. American flag waving in the distance behind him, below a risen sun. A woman walks up beside him, puts her arm around him, and smiles.

Man:

"So get the change that you deserve. Talk to your Doctor about GOP. Soon, you'll be walking by the homeless on the street again and saying "Let them get a job!"

Or better yet--let them get GOP."

Woman smiles.

Fade.

Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/05/change-that-you-deserve.html

Posted by: Robert Hewson | May 15, 2008 7:58 PM

Does anyone really support this doddering old fool?

Does he even understand what he reads off the teleprompter?

Perhaps he should spend some time with his black lovechild to learn a little about the real america.

Posted by: Kent | May 15, 2008 7:48 PM

Mccain is never going to be on message. It will be so easy to jerk him around and make him look like a fool I almost feel sorry for the old guy, almost.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 7:39 PM

I accept your apology.

Posted by: JakeD | May 15, 2008 7:38 PM

Watching him today was bizzar to say the least. This guy is going to be a riot to watch over the next few months.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 15, 2008 7:37 PM

JakeD-Sorry, but until I can see where anyone has ever LEARNED what it is I keep saying, I have to keep applying the "Water Principle" at it until it finally gets through!

Funniest thing, I heard Mitt Romney very clearly the FIRST Time he said he would simply enforce our existing Laws.

No NEW Laws, the Old ones worked just fine, when they were enforced! ;~)

Posted by: RAT-The | May 15, 2008 7:36 PM

You're welcome.

Posted by: JakeD | May 15, 2008 7:27 PM

I thank you.

Posted by: justadad55+ | May 15, 2008 7:22 PM

At this point, I'm sure McCain is content to just wake up in the morning!

Posted by: Sally | May 15, 2008 7:14 PM

RAT-The and justadad55:

I believe I addressed those posts an the prior thread.

Posted by: JakeD | May 15, 2008 7:13 PM

Mr. Balz-What you did not notice, was the tendency of McCain to assume so much of what Other Country's and their Leaders and People would do. All, combined with some self serving idealism that he is going to get everyone here to do all these things.

Pretty darn Pie in the Sky, for a Coward who feels that rather than Enforce the Federal Laws that for DECADES protected this Country from the onslaught of Invaders that have combined to DESTROY all the things McCain NOW wants to throw money at to try to fix, would rather repeat one of the biggest mistakes this Country ever made! It was the first Capitulation called "Amnesty" that threw the Doors of hell wide open! This idiot wants to do it again on a many times larger Scale!

No creo Yo! :-(

Nip the problemo in the BUD-NOW!

As a CONGRESSMAN McCain, get together with all your GREAT BUDDY Congressman you claim to be so in with, and FUND the Agents(Job creation! Imagine that! ) needed to start handing out Fines to Criminal Employers of un-Documented Workers like a Traffic Cop at Indy!

No Jobs, No more Problem(s). Get Pelosi to introduce the HR 1940-Birthright Citizenship Act-Make it retro to 2000. There, no more broken Families!

On that note, END the insane Priority of Family Re-unification at the INS! If they want to Reunite, GO HOME!

Most of the problems I see, are DIRECTLY attributable to the Invasion. Immigration?
We have ZERO problems with immigration. NO Shortage.

Jobs, Fair Wages, Resources, Schools, Prison Space and much more-There we have a problemo or two!

Solution: Keep Senators in the Senate, hire Executives for the Executive Branch.

Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee come to mind! ;~)

Posted by: RAT-The | May 15, 2008 7:00 PM

Pres Bush's decision to engage in partisan intervention. What the hell is next for you people, another war. Hilary says that new cars will pull you through. How many of you can afford a new car in the next couple of years, how many of you leased??. You will not be attacked, hopefully if you vote as the America I have known for 40 years. Man you are screwed. What a shame your great powers could not attack and control Burma. That would be the America I knew.
Life is great.

Posted by: justadad55+ | May 15, 2008 6:58 PM

...to continue the Republican Grand Failure for as long as he lives?

Sorry - The Terrorists Republican regime is coming to an end. They should head back to the extremists cave they crawled out of.

Posted by: Franky | May 15, 2008 6:53 PM

P.S. to Dan: did you miss the McCain threads on the speech (below)? There were no "blanks" and he admitted that any President's power is "limited" but he gave a great vision:

"I cannot guarantee I will have achieved these things. I am presumptuous enough to think I would be a good President, but not so much that I believe I can govern by command. Should I forget that, Congress will, of course, hasten to remind me. The following are conditions I intend to achieve. And toward that end, I will focus all the powers of the Office; every skill and strength I possess; and seize every opportunity to work with members of Congress who put the national interest ahead of partisanship, and any country in the world that shares our hopes for a more peaceful and prosperous world."

Posted by: JakeD | May 15, 2008 6:51 PM

Four years (or God willing) eight years ...

Posted by: JakeD | May 15, 2008 6:45 PM

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