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Obama: 'Be Nice to Clinton Supporters.'

By Matthew Mosk
PORTLAND, Ore. -- Sen. Barack Obama showed every sign of confidence that he has secured the Democratic nomination during a high-dollar fundraiser at a posh club here last night.

Obama predicted a victory in Oregon and said he believed the resulting delegate haul would "put us over the top."

"We will be able to say we have won a majority," he said. "But we have a lot of work to do ahead of us."

For the past several days, Obama has been moving closer to declaring himself the party's nominee, even as Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has been campaigning aggressively to soak up delegates in the few remaining primaries. At an event in the timber-country town of Roseburg, Ore., he twice slipped into past tense when referring to Clinton's bid and the primaries.

Already, top fundraisers for Clinton and Obama have begun private talks aimed at merging the two candidates' teams.

At the fundraiser, he told a boisterous crowd of about 300 supporters that a win in November would require a unified Democratic Party, adding: "That means all of you have to be nice to Clinton supporters."

Not everyone in attendance was firmly sold on Obama. Christine Cha, 41, a radiation oncologist at the Oregon Clinic, said her husband was completely on board, but she continued to relate to Clinton. She said appreciates "how hard it is for a woman to try and break the ultimate glass ceiling." She didn't mind the tough primary, saying, "I think the process is very important. It's good she's giving him a real run for it so he is tested now."

On the other hand, there were many who said they had fallen for the senator, including Jeff and Annie Strain, both in their late 30s, who drove more than three hours from Seattle to attend the event.

And there was Julia Brim-Edwards, 46, who became a Republican in 1979 and worked on Capitol Hill for Republicans including then-Sen. Bob Packwood of Oregon. She ran her husband's campaign for state treasurer (he's Randall Edwards, a Democrat), and said he won the primary by only a few hundred votes. She had not changed parties to help him. But in April, she says she switched parties for Obama. "He will fundamentally change the country," she said. "He's very unique."

Michelle Obama introduced her husband at the event, in the wood-paneled University Club of Portland, and she expressed some surprise at where the two have found themselves after 15 months of campaigning. "So here we are," she said. "Probably not where we were supposed to be, ever. No one put their money on Barack Obama."

At which point, a woman in the crowd shouted, "I did!"

"And look what you've done," Michelle Obama smiled.

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I am thoroughly saddened by the mean-spirited comments by Obama supporters everywhere. I now feel that Hillary Clinton was America's final hope for humanity. I feel strongly that I, as a life-long Democrat ( I am 59) can no longer back the party in it's choices. I urge Hillary Clinton to break with the Democratic party and run as an Independent or to throw her support behind John McCain. Anything but support the Obama mistake. I find myself having to choose between leaving the Democratic party completely or not voting. I cannot allow Obama to be electedif my single vote has a chance to keep him out of office.

Posted by: Larry | June 5, 2008 7:52 PM

Attention Clinton supporters who will support McCain if Obama is nominated:

Attention Clinton supporters who will support Clinton running on an Independent ticket if Obama is nominated:

Attention Cynthia Ruccia, organizer of a national group called Clinton Supporters Count, Too has said, "If Hillary Clinton isn't going to be our nominee, then we are going to actively campaign against (the Democratic Party) and vote for John McCain." :

Who do you all think Hillary Clinton is going to vote for if Obama is nominated?

Do you think that she as a Democratic candidate wants to see a Republican in the White House?

Do you think the Democratic Party is going to help Clinton fund a run against their own nominee to help a Republican win the presidency?

One final question is for Hillary Clinton: Why aren't you strongly taking the position against your supporters who threaten a Democrat becoming the next President?

Posted by: Boaz | June 1, 2008 6:58 AM

I just met and spoke to the first Clinton supporter that would vote for McBush if Obama gets the nomination. I told her I was baffled and wanted to know why, which didn't get me anywhere. I am a supporter of Obama but will hold my nose and vote for Clinton given the lesser of two evils; I wasted one vote on Nader and helped GW into office so I will not sit out or do a write in. The one thing I truly believe is we cannot allow Bush the 3rd to be elected, our country may not be able to take it.

Posted by: RC | May 20, 2008 6:23 PM

Gary - What you are doing is spiteful. You hate McCain and you know he will be the worse possible thing for our country but you don't care because you did not get your way. That is sad because Obama may not be perfect be he is superior to McCain and his old policies. The party did not betray you, you betray america by voting for another republican.

Posted by: Frank | May 20, 2008 10:27 AM

As we draw a close to this democratic primary season it is mathematically evident that Sen. Barack Obama will be the democratic nominee. Unfortunately I think many of the Clinton supporters and especially women have become spiteful. I will explain. Regardless of how the media may or may have not treated Sen. Clinton it is absurd for women to feel that if she doesn't win then they will either sit out of the general election or vote for John McCain. That would be equivalent to putting a loaded gun to your head and pulling the trigger. It is spiteful to knowingly vote for another Bush term where all of our right (not only women's) will again be trampled on by an old man. To put us through that for 4 more years would be ludicrous. More importantly though, women see Mrs. Clinton as the closest they've come to being in that level of power and a means to give women more opportunities. By voting for McCain women would be denying the same type of opportunity to another worthy minority and giving it to another one of the WASP boys. It's hippocritical for women to take that "my way or the highway attitude" rather than working with all democrats to support any eventual democratic candidate. To not support Obama who is closer to Clinton's policies and to vote for McCain who is a world away from policies benefiting all of us would be unforgiveable.

Posted by: Frank | May 20, 2008 9:29 AM

Funny how the Hillary supporters are saying they would rather vote for McCain. I don't believe them. Would they really do that? How petty and irresponsible. Once their disappointment fades and they have a chance to consider what that really means they will change their mind.

I like McCain. Actually sent him money once because he spoke out against the religious right. But the Republicans have to be held accountable for the Bush years and how stupid they have become. The Republicans can't be allowed to benefit from their tragic mistakes.

Obama has that ability to communicate that Reagan had. Hillary supporters are upset because they haven't been able to make dirt stick on him. Well - consider what that brings to the office of the president. The Clintons carry so much baggage that they would never get anything done. They are proven, unabashed liars - even their cynical supporters think so but they rationalize that it is just a part of the game.

As Americans we must not make the same mistake of voting only for the familar. As a rule - never vote for the son, spouse or sibling of a famous politian whether they are Bush, Clinton or Kennedy.

I (reluctantly) registered as a Democrat because Obama's message for change resonates with with the 'better angels of (my) nature'. Having recently read 'Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln' - Obama reminds me of Lincoln. He appears to have the empathic intelligence that Hillary doesn't. He is a smart man who doesn't pander. His message treats the listener with respect. He acknowleges that there are more than one side to an issue and seeks cooperation rather than a fight. Even though I may not be so enthusiastic about all his policies, I have to go with the candidate who seems most likely to bring honor and civility to our politics.

If Hillary supporters won't get past their bitterness to support Obama. I (and other independant voters) will fill the gap.

Posted by: Jim | May 20, 2008 4:07 AM

Obama is a slick politician and his supporters are sick. If Hillary Clinton is robbed of democratic nomination, I and millions of her supporters will either vote for McCain, write Hillary in as our candidate or not vote all. Obama and his supporters... take your dumb racist asses to hell!!!

_______

Another county heard from. Thank you, typical supposed clingon supporter.

You know what cracks me up when these folks say there are 17 million people who vote for obama? Where are these supporters donations? How come 17 million (right) supporters can't keep her financially competitive? Surely they haven't all maxed out their contributions.

Posted by: duh | May 19, 2008 6:36 PM

Vote Democrat, Vote for Osama

Posted by: JImbo | May 19, 2008 6:25 PM

I am saddened to see the number of negative and mean spirited comments here. Regardless of who is running or who wins, America as a country cannot win and live up to its potential unless we are more united. Granted, we all have differences, but we are all Americans, and while we may not utterly fail if we are divided, we will not be nearly as strong and effective on the home stage or the world stage. One of the attributes I like about Senator Obama is his desire, and on many occasions, his ability to bring out the best in Americans. What is more patriotic than getting people to question the status quo and look for solutions that improve America? A person of no less stature than Thomas Jefferson encouraged this. No, I don't believe Obama is perfect, but he is smart, intelligent (the two do not necessarily go together), listens and considers others' viewpoints, and most of all, he has integrity. I am a passionate Obama supporter, but I will vote for Hillary if she gets the nomination. And, while I have serious concerns about some of McCain's positions, particularly his deference to more ultra
conservative Republicans-- if he should win the election in November, he will still be my president. The environmental, economic, health, and education problems in this country leave no room for petty partisan politics. If we don't unite to find solutions, the only people who will win are the rich "takers" in America. And, if the environment gets bad enough, even they, with their billions, won't be able to purchase clean air and unpolluted water.

Posted by: PattyJ | May 19, 2008 5:33 PM

Obama is a slick politician and his supporters are sick. If Hillary Clinton is robbed of democratic nomination, I and millions of her supporters will either vote for McCain, write Hillary in as our candidate or not vote all. Obama and his supporters... take your dumb racist asses to hell!!!

Posted by: lionred | May 19, 2008 5:14 PM

It seems to me that both parties have lost their bearings.

Obama's latest speech: " we can't drive our SUV's, we can't eat everything we want and expect other countries to say nothing.

Obviously he is running for Premier of the one world government that he supports. (as do the others).

They ALL need to get their collective heads out of their nether regions and make America what is once was.

The way they are ALL campaigning, it seems like they are more worried about what other countries think of us, rather than getting serious about the problems that this country is facing.

I feel that this country is ready for a female Presidential nominee, just NOT this one. She should be ashamed of even being in the Senate, let alone campaigning for the highest office in the land.

I also feel that this country is more than ready for a black MAN in the White House, but, Obama is not the one for this country at this time and place.

McCain is so far out of touch with reality, it scare me just thinking that he would be in close proximity to the "Red Button".

In short, both parties do not listen to the voters, just their corporate owners.

Just my opinion!

Posted by: viper1 | May 19, 2008 4:55 PM

Hillary apparently can't see the forest for the trees. It's all over. All we need is for the fat lady in the pantsuit to say goodbye. Does she not know what a graceful exit is? It's time for her to capitulate before she's hooked off the stage.

Posted by: day678 | May 19, 2008 4:31 PM

Erik R | May 19, 2008 1:00 PM says:
"Hillary has a honesty problem". Really and Obama doesn't. Please get real, he has lied so many times that I've stopped counting. Only when he is caught does he own up to the partial truth. "ie, Wright-didn't know he said those things (really after 20 years in Church AND Chicago". Just one lie of many.
Sorry Mr. Dean and company, you have tried to shove this candidate down our throats from day one. I can not vote for McCain but I will not vote for Obama, so I will write in Hillary's name and vote down ballot Republican to send the message to the DNC.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 19, 2008 4:17 PM

You guys who are so avid about Clinton must not read the news or see the things she says. Are you all just blindly following family/regional ties or what? Obama has had to spend most of his campaign defending attacks and trying to clear his name because people like the ones in the Clinton campaign have spent all their time to trying to slander him and make up childish sob stories rather than discuss any actual facts. And McCain? Yea that's the kind of two-faced president everybody wants. Nothing's going to change unless you people let it and the reason nothing ever happens is because you're all too blind and too jaded by past presidents doing just about nothing to even consider that it might possible for a man like Obama to actually deliver on promises and work towards change rather than policy. Bush can talk about appeasement all he wants but all he's done his entire 8 years is "appease" naive Americans who don't have enough technical/political/financial knowledge to understand even a portion of the suggested actions. The thing ruining the country isn't the president it's that Americans are too scared to take a chance on a great thing anymore and they'd just prefer if the president was white. And of course the women are going to support Hillary cause she's a woman and "we don't have an equal life" and all that nonsense. Get a college degree and work hard dog days like men and work to supply your husband with a brand new 300$ wallet and million dollar wardrobe and a $4000 engagement leather belt and you'll live the same lives men do. I'm voting Obama '08 cause if anybody else gets in office, nothing's going to get done, just another 4-8 years of appeasing naive, ignorant, uneducated people with short-sided policies that do little more than look good on paper.

Posted by: Lance | May 19, 2008 2:35 PM

People who say if their candidate doesn't win the primary they will vote for McCain are fools who don't really support anything their candidate believes in and are acting like spoiled children.

This is democracy, you win some you lose some, but going over to the other side, to a side with a candidate who opposes everything the you like supports, that my friends is the dumbest, most selfish thing I have ever heard.

You losers run to McCain and if he wins you'll only have yourself to blame when we live through another fours years of hell.

Posted by: Steve Rosenblatt | May 19, 2008 2:24 PM

People who say if their candidate doesn't win the primary they will vote for McCain either; are fools, don't really support anything their candidate believes in, are acting like spoiled children.

This is democracy, you win some you lose some, but going over to the other side, to a side with a candidate who opposes everything the you like supports, that my friends is the dumbest most selfish thing I have ever heard.

You losers run to McCain and if he wins you'll only have youself to blame.

Posted by: Steve Rosenblatt | May 19, 2008 2:22 PM

People who say if their candidate doesn't win the primary they will vote for McCain either; are fools, don't really support anything their candidate believes in, are acting like spoiled children.

This is democracy, you win some you lose some, but going over to the other side, to a side with a candidate who opposes everything the you like supports, that my friends is the dumbest most selfish thing I have ever heard.

You losers run to McCain and if he wins you'll only have youself to blame.

Posted by: Steve Rosenblatt | May 19, 2008 2:22 PM

WHO WOULD VOTE FOR SOME ONE THAT THINKS WE HAVE 57 STATES COME ON GET OUT AND VOTE HILLARY 2008.

Posted by: ANNIE NESSELRODT | May 19, 2008 2:15 PM

don't be nice to us we sure don't like you and will vote McCain if Hillary gets push out,Janet in BY GOD WEST VIRGINIA,

Posted by: janet in wv | May 19, 2008 2:11 PM

Obama is just a nice guy! No real nor solid value. He thought just being nice to us, Hillary supporters, we will vote for him. We want more than that. Support us now in counting all Michigan and Florida votes as is. Take a chance of losing; and if Obama still wins then he will get our votes in general election. But I don't see any sign that he would accept the integrity of all primary votes, therefore he is not fit to be President. Mr Obama, I don't trust you.

Posted by: nT | May 19, 2008 1:13 PM

I have read this entire thread, and I see that there are many people who say that if their candidate isn't the nominee, then they'll vote Repug. It goes both ways.

I, myself, am neutral. Both Democratic candidates are very good, and we WILL need to unify behind one of them in order to prevent this country from spiralling into the abyss. The nomination could still go either way, but listening to the subversive people saying "My candidate or no one!" will only cause us to spend the next several years in grief and torment.

Well, that or Canada.

I have some foresight, though. I believe that Obama, saying that we all need to "play nice", is preparing us all for a joint ticket. I get a very strong feeling that is what is going to happen.

So, c'mon guys. Let's not make this personal. The Repugs want us to remain divided, but we cannot, and must not tear at our own throats. Let's face it, both candidates have similar stances, have a similar voting record, have similar experiences, thoughts and policies.

Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton '08 AND '12! Can you get behind it?

I can.

Posted by: Austinite | May 19, 2008 1:07 PM

I want my daughters to have a better example of leadership in the first woman president than Hillary Clinton. Clinton supporters who claim this is some sort of misogynist conspiracy know less about their party than they do about politics.

Hillary's campaign was poorly managed. They didn't get as much out of their dollar as Obama's did, they were constantly focused on image (hers and Obama's) in a time when people are paying a lot more attention to real issues than they ever have, and her campaign as a whole still fails to recognize that the negative campaigning ultimately doomed them more than any other factor.

And I'm terribly sorry but she's shifty. The Clintons always have been. There's a reason nobody ever dredged up BS like flag pins and what the preacher said on the Clinton's. Nobody ever needed to. There were and still are plenty of skeletons in that particular closet. In a campaign where the other leading candidates at least give lip service to campaign finance reform, Hillary is hauling a truckload of undisclosed campaign donors with her on her bid for the White house and telling us it would be "hard" to do anything about campaign finance issues.

And yes, she has demonstrated some uncomfortable similarities with Bush. She has an honesty problem. She plays the "repeat it until it's true" game even when it's clear nobody is buying it. She confuses mule-headed stubbornness with conviction. She will throw ANYBODY under the bus to get what she wants. She appeals to the worst in humanity through identity politics, negative campaigning, and by confusing cynicism with realism.

Now you tell me Clinton supporters, what have I side against Hillary here that's sexist or untrue? Is it that hard for you to imagine that we might actually have perfectly reasonable and well-informed opinions? I'm willing to hear yours for Clinton and against Obama but all I ever see out here on the 'net is BS and in spite of myself having a reputation for fairness and calm demeanor under intense political discussion, trying to talk to you in person about Hillary vs. Barack is a challenge in keeping the opposite party on the happy side of the hysteria zone.

It is no coincidence that so many of the Clinton diehards are boomers and female. After eight years of Bush, this is no longer a decision we can responsibly make based on how the candidate makes us feel about the boxes we put ourselves in.

Posted by: Erik R | May 19, 2008 1:00 PM

I do admit Obama can and should make a stronger case to the rural voters, some of whom just want to be persuaded and whose minds aren't closed to his candidacy.

That being said, Audrey, Blu and others who think like you, PLEASE LEAVE THE BIG TENT IMMEDIATELY!! and report to the McSame Republican Outhouse where you already belong.

Real Dems shouldn't waste any time more time trying to convince these types of people, since they WILL NEVER vote for Obama whether it served their interests or not.

So what! The Dems will lose these haters, good riddance, but Dems will gain lots more in Independent and Rep voters who are willing to think for themselves so we won't be BUSHwacked by believing the S$%#&!! being shoveled from the Rep Outhouse again.

Posted by: Bendere Dondat | May 19, 2008 12:48 PM

I repeat my question to Obama supporters (I'm one). Do you personally know one person who believes as these supposed clingon supporters believe? Do you know one person who supports clingon and will not vote for Obama in the GE? I don't. I'm trying to find one.

I maintain all this shouting is from a very small minority of rabid followers, republicans, and people with undemocratic agendas who will make no difference in the GE.

Posted by: duh | May 19, 2008 12:38 PM

There will be no caucuses on Nov.4th.The people will go one by one into their polling places.There will be no goons or college students to threaten old people from voting.We shall see.

Posted by: Tom Dockery | May 19, 2008 12:31 PM

Proud to have voted for Obama in the primary and eager to vote for him in November. He is a class act.

Posted by: kristianjl | May 19, 2008 11:02 AM

Nana, since when has one iota of this campaign against Hillary been based on the fact that she is a woman? Redirect your anger elsewhere because there has not been a systematic anti-woman agenda at the DNC.

Posted by: nate | May 19, 2008 10:13 AM

It is late to consider the Hillary supporters. I have seen all I need to see about Obama and much of it has been from his supporters. The DNC ripped a gash in their "big tent" and lost a 40 yr association and identity with the women of this country. They have replaced us with the college crowd. They believe they have new, additional voters but cannot understand that they now have just a replacement of voters and that women have fled the chains of the Dem Party and will begin to work hard for ourselves and not to help the Dem party look good anymore. The DNC can get their funding from "the endorsers" and the college kids who live still with their parents and whose enthusiasm will "move on" to the next big celebrity cause soon. I'm just "not ready to make nice" after the disgusting display of disrespect for women and for the free elective process we are supposed to have.

Posted by: nana4 | May 19, 2008 9:39 AM

The time for discussing the issues with them has come and gone. Now is the time to assist in the defeat of Obama, for the sake of our families, and for the sake of this country.
Posted by: Audrey | May 18, 2008 11:25 PM

That says it all! There are more important things at stake than party unity. If Obama is the nominee I will do what ever I can to help defeat him in November.

Posted by: Blu | May 19, 2008 9:32 AM

I too once thought that Hillary was the one UNTIL I started seeing her for who she really is. She has no one to blame except herself for her pending defeat. At the beginning people saw a stubbornness in her (like Bush)with her refusal to admit her Iraq vote as being a mistake. An inability to tell or face the truth (like Bush) A divisiveness in her tactics (like Bush) over the last few months of the campaign. Her loyalty is reserved only for herself or another Clinton. That being said, mark my words, she is not in this for you die hards who are threatening to vote for McSame. Because she knows that no one could really be so dense as to vote against their own future interests. SHE WANTS OBAMA/SOMEONE TO PAY HER CAMPAIGN DEBT!! So she can run again in the future. For ONLY that is what truly matters to her now. It's not you or any issue. When and if her debt is paid, she will act as if she ALWAYS!! supported Obama. Dems Watch and Learn (again & again,..sic)

Posted by: Bendere Dondat | May 19, 2008 8:56 AM

Joe said: Audrey, my Messiah is Jesus. Obama is the one I'm voting for president.

WELL THEN, JOE, DID YOU KNOW THAT ACCORDING TO REV. WRIGHT AND OBAMA'S THEOLOGY, JESUS WAS A BLACK MAN WHO WAS KILLED BY "WHITE PEOPLE?" ACTUALLY, MORE SPECIFICALLY, "GARLIC NOSED" "WHITE PEOPLE." YOU ARE VOTING FOR A RACIST. I HOPE FOR YOUR SAKE, THAT YOU'RE BLACK.

Posted by: Audrey | May 19, 2008 8:46 AM

That's what i thought.

Posted by: duh | May 19, 2008 8:23 AM

I'll be glad to respond to your funny points just as soon as you provide supporting links from reputable sources. Funny troll.

To clarify what i said before, Obama supporters, do you literally know anyone who still supports clingon and will not vote for obama?

Posted by: duh | May 19, 2008 7:47 AM

Since the media has failed voters and Obamas refuse to explain or tell the truth, Maybe you can explain Obamas relationship with Ayers, Gadaffi Syrian tycoon, Antoin Rezko, Saudi Arabian Scheiks and Nadhami Auchi, Iraqi billionaire, global arms dealer who was best friends with Saddam Hussein, and the main financial backer for Saddam's Iraqi -Saudi oil pipeline, and stood trial with Saddam Hussein for conspiring to assassinate Iraqi President Qasim. VOTERS are concerned why CNN & MSNBC refuse to question those relationships, coupled with Obama's 20 plus yrs with Rev. Wright shows a serious pattern, which Obama seems quite comfortable with people who really, really, really HATE U.S of America. If you question him or his values or policies, you're part of the "divisive, distracting" practices voters associate with Washington. Them's the Obama Rules.

Obama's chief political adviser David Alexrod on National Public Radio claimed white working class Democrats barely exist and hardly matter, white working class has gone to the Republican nominee for many elections, This is not new, WE don't need or rely solely on those votes.

Obama wants to impose 20% tax on cost of Barrel Of Oil Above $80 which again drives up Cost Of Gasoline On Americans! why doesn't Obama Acknowledge Fuel Costs For Truckers Hurt The American Consumer? Increasing Cost Of Everything Including Food, Retail, And Manufactured Goods.

Obama Claims That He Does Not Accept Contributions From Federal Lobbyists, records show he has accepted $128,000 From Lobbyists and $1.3 million from PACs, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

Obama calls For Higher Income Taxes, Social Security Taxes, Investment Taxes, And Corporate Taxes, As Well As "Massive New Domestic Spending and a healthcare plan that perhaps could be the next step to a full-scale, single-payer system.

Obama Pandered To MoveOn.org By Promising Not To Fund Troops In Iraq In The Future. "Eli Pariser, [MoveOn.org's] Executive Director, told ABC news but Obamas senate record shows he voted against bringing troops home, voted for war appropriations giving our money to Halliburton and Blackwater, voted with Bush/Chaney posturing S433 to suspend any troop withdrawal which keeps the troops in Iraq for a long time to come.

Obama won the endorsement of the Teamsters earlier this year after privately telling the union he supported ending the strict federal oversight imposed to root out corruption.
Obama Said The U.S. Needs To Focus On Afghanistan, Obama has held Zero hearings as Chairman Of The Subcommittee On European Affairs. "Doubts about Barack Obama's presidential credentials have crystallized over his stewardship of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee's Subcommittee on European Affairs, which has convened no policy hearings since he took over as its chairman last January.

Obama inconsistent explaining how Genocide in Iraq would affect his plan for withdrawal: Ambassador Crocker said that a quick withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq could result in genocide and if that began to emerge as an issue, would you stop the withdrawal?" Obama: of course. Obama Previously Said Preventing Genocide Would Not Be A Sufficient Reason To Remain In Iraq.

Why Is Barack Obama Silent On SEIU Attacks After Denouncing Similar Independent Expenditures Earlier In The Primaries? Labor Unions And Other Independent Groups Have Already Spent Over $7.1 Million In Support Of Obama's Campaign for the presidential nomination, campaign records show.

Obama's racial stereotype of the 'typical White person' and his view of the 'typical small town person.quoted as disparaging residents of small towns in Pennsylvania as being "like a lot of small towns in the Midwest" where "it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

Obama is unapologetic, even dissing of voters in Florida and Michigan one has to wonder what groups of Americans he really respects?

Racist wife, Michelle, saying she was proud of America "for the first time" only because of her husband's presidential run.

Obama explained he doesn't wear an American flag lapel pin or hold his hands to his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance because it is a substitute for patriotism,

Obama loses to Hillary Clinton in a face to face debate in Phil, next day gives her the finger behind her back in a speech in NC. What a man! And the Obama fans were laughing with him, reminding me of the congregation in Reverend Wright's church cheering and patting him on the back during his racist sermons


Posted by: Anonymous | May 19, 2008 7:35 AM

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Hillary Clinton's plummets Obama in West Virginia and raises serious doubts over Barack Obama's ability.
It is a fact that no Democrat has won the White House since 1916 without winning West Virginia, Obama lost West Virginia by more than 40 points, an enormous fall, voters who went against Obama -- white, rural, older, low-income and without college degrees -- don't just live in West Virginia. They live everywhere in the country, in places Obama needs to win in a general election. In anticipation of the West Virginia primary, college students for Obama were hurling insults at farmers and truck drivers. Now we hear pained remarks from the Obama camp that many white men won't vote for any black. Oh really? No one was complaining during the early races in Iowa, Maryland, Virginia and Wisconsin, when most of the white male participants backed Obama. That was before the Rev. Jeremiah Wright ugliness became public. Obama's inability to persuade working-class white voters to back him points to serious problem for him in the presidential election. A large percentage of voters who backed Mrs Clinton said they would not vote for Obama in the presidential race if he becomes the nominee. Disrespecting the nearly 17 million who have supported Clinton is politically unwise, but turning them into "the enemy" is insane. Bill Clinton presided over the longest peacetime expansion since World War II. His budget surpluses put his so-called conservative predecessors and successor to shame. Wouldn't a vow to build on the Clinton legacy, rather than dismantle it, be a better tack for the Obama campaign? More proof Obama is to inexperienced and as a political elite out of touch with everyday America, Obama received glowing, it's-over-he-is-the-nominee coverage for the past six days, and that amounted to nothing in West Virginia. One has to wonder if the giddy praise and tingling feelings jolting up the legs of ALL at CNN and the Chris Matthewses, Keith Olbermanns cable news "Wright-free zones" of the world amounts to a hill of beans. Voters have figured out the biased media and no longer relying on them for truth!

http://www.dontvoteobama.net.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 19, 2008 7:33 AM

Okay, little survey here. I really am curious. I live in Michigan and I'd say there are 30-40 democrats in my life whose opinion I know about the primary. Some supported Hillary at first.

I don't know one person who plans to vote for hillary. Does anyone actually know anyone who plans to vote for her?

I think that's why I find all of this so funny. Who are these people if not republican operatives?

Posted by: duh | May 19, 2008 7:12 AM

Ignore all comments on politicians' character. The question is: do you want four more years of the same policies that put us where we are today? Yes or no.

Posted by: Paxalot | May 19, 2008 7:04 AM

Hmmmm let's see....Hillary Clinton supporters are supposedly racist, bitter, uneducated, divisive, etc., etc..

Sorry but after the Obama camp has showed itself for what it is - elitist, vulgar and violent, no way in hell is he ever going to get my vote, no matter how much he begs his own to make nice. Obama is an enigma, yet you can't question him because otherwise you are labeled a racist. I'm tired of the ugliness this man and his cronies have created. McCain gets my vote in November, if Clinton is not the nominee. The DNC divided the party thanks to their visions of grandeur, not the Clintons. And if John McCain was good enough to be considered John Kerry's VP in 2004, he's good enough for me in 2008.

Posted by: Conchita | May 19, 2008 6:07 AM

anyone who says that they are either going to vote for hillary or mccain is either 1) a republic just posting things to rile everyone up, or 2) a democrat who is still too caught up with everything to think clearly. obama and hillary have nearly identical platforms, and they differ with mccain on pretty much every issue that matters. saying you'll vote for mccain out of spite is not very clear headed, and as time passes, real democrats will vote for the democratic nominee. we are going to win very big this year.

Posted by: mike | May 19, 2008 4:54 AM

Interesting... quite a few posters complained about how they've been "beaten up" by Obama supporters; they indicate that it is this poor treatment that is the cause of them not being willing to vote for Obama in November, now that he's the presumptive Democratic nominee.

But if you look at the comments, just do a quick tally -- count pro-Obama, pro-Clinton, anti-Obama, anti-Clinton, and unknown.

Note that I see a great number of anti-Obama posts, and a few pro-Clinton posts (praising her policy choices in one rare example, otherwise mostly just praising the fact that she's a woman).

However, I see almost no anti-Clinton posts -- I don't see this horrible beating that Clinton fans are taking. I do see a lot of people saying "it's over," but this isn't beating up Clinton, it's just the truth (no matter how you slice the math, even with FL and MI, Clinton cannot win things without some kind of coup). I really don't see the evil attacks by Obama supporters. But I DO see lots and lots of attacks on Obama by pro-Clinton posters.

Which leads me to suspect one of a few things:

1) What we're really seeing is Operation Chaos, or something like it. In other words, trolls. If this is the case, I'd recommend that Obama supporters (and I am one... truth in advertising) simply ignore these comments. They really don't represent reality.

-- or --

2) Clinton's supporters are much more venomous than Obama's supporters. This might be true, especially since people tend to get mean when they feel like they're losing.

But honestly, I suspect 1. I see a lot of trolling here...

Posted by: Tom C | May 19, 2008 4:22 AM

It's obvious some readers have no clue of what they're talking about. if Obama ran against Powell, Obama would lose? So beating a power politician like Clinton was a rouge? You guys kill me how you try to devalue his sucess to some sort of affirmative action spin damn near. Sickening with this ton already. Anyway, Colon Powell, had all but endorsed Barack in one of his rare interviews last month. Furthermore, this is election about "New Politics" also known as "Change". Powell played the point to deliver to this war. Neat with displays and CIA facts. He was the presenter, seller, and spokesman for it. He'd laid his overwhelming display of the facts out for the U.N. for this war. Powell, was horribly, teribbly wrong. There were no WMD's. Obama had always seen the Iraq war a Afghanistan as the wrong war. The preemptive war in iraq never should have been authorized and waged.

History has already proven Barack Obama to have been spot on with his forecast and judgment about the war, where Powell was 100% wrong. Obama is the very best candidate.

If the Republican base thought Powell could win, he'd be the nominee against Barack, right now. He is not. McCain is absolutely the best they can do. Which is more of the same.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 19, 2008 3:29 AM

So why is it that the people who weren't supporters of Obama were 'not firmly solid on Obama' while those who support him have 'fallen' for him? It makes it seem like people who haven't put their support behind Obama are all smart and intelligent while all of his supporters are just infatuated with him. I voted for Barack (in Oregon, by the way) because of his policies that will help fix this country and restore our place on the world stage, not because he looks pretty or something equally ridiculous. To continue the fallacy that Obama's only supporters are messianic followers is disingenuous and frankly insulting.

Posted by: Bias Much? | May 19, 2008 3:00 AM

The lesson to learn from the failed campaign of the Clinton & Co is that nothing in life should be taken for granted.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 19, 2008 2:49 AM

it's funny how in this nomination process it was women who played the gender and race card and the black guy refused to do either.

Sorry but if your only reasoning for voting HRC is "break the glass ceiling" then you are essentially saying you know nothing about politics you're justr voting for the highest ranking vagina in the country.

Way to show your intellect ladies.

Posted by: Josh N. | May 19, 2008 2:24 AM

The problem with elections is most people are idiots (see: these comments).

Posted by: Brian | May 19, 2008 2:16 AM

i hope that my vote supports our troops as i vote for a quick withdrawal - and i will vote for obama or clinton easily....

Posted by: marleyinoc | May 19, 2008 2:02 AM

I have voted for a Democrat in every election since I was first old enough to vote (1976). I could never bring myself to vote Republican under any circumstance. This November I will vote for Hillary Clinton whether she is on the ballot or not. I don't care if she's white, black, male, female, blonde, brunette, gay or straight. I am voting for her because she is the most qualified candidate I have seen or heard in my lifetime. Nothing that happens between now and November will change my mind--even the threat of a McCain win and his potential supreme court appointees.

Posted by: Eva Douglas | May 19, 2008 1:58 AM

There were 75,000 people in mostly white Portland Oregon that said today, this isn't about race. 75,000 people who are really sick of the same old crappy politics that's been played by Washington Politicians and the Corporate press. 75000 people who believe that the republican Party and George Bush have ruined this country. 75,000 people that said Oregon is going to hand Barack Obama the nomination on Tuesday night.

I look forward to hearing the heads of the right wing racist conservatives popping in January, 2009 when Obama in inaugurated President of the United States.

Posted by: thebob.bob | May 19, 2008 1:46 AM

The most amazing question this election season is not that Hillary is not ready to give up, it is that Hillary - the most well known brand in the country democratic circles - is struggling and that a majority of democrats dont want her. The women vote for her because they feel for her husband cheating on her and are reminded of how their own husbands cheat on them. Hillary missed a great opportunity to define herself away from Bill. Instead, she has been promising a return to the past. What a waste of a talented women. What a shame to see her to resort to lying left and right to get elected - anything to get elected. What a shame.

Posted by: Bill | May 19, 2008 1:34 AM

YOU ARE SMOKING TOO MUCH AND INHALING HRC SUPPORTERS.

What the heck are you talking about Obama being tough on Clinton? He has not been 1/50th as tough as she and her husband has....hell she started the race by saying he cant take attacks...and she is toughing him up.... and not to talk of Bills bile tirade against him. HRC is a shame to all women because she has shown that the only way women can "try" to get ahead is by cheating, lying, and being idiots...and still fail in the end. She goes around saying she has lot of baggage...and everyone had been through its... is that the qualification to thump your sagging chest on?

HRC, go away and disappear. you are like the alien beast in the movie alien. End is near.

Posted by: Matt | May 19, 2008 1:30 AM

"McCain is moderate and bi-partisan!"

"Just can't vote for Obama. He showed us no tears after Katrina."

"Vote Hillary, break that glass ceiling!"

Wow. McCain is NOT moderate. "No tears", what the hell? I'm sure Hillary and McCain bawled their eyes out. And yes, there shouldn't be a barrier to a woman president, but Hillary is NOT the answer.

Here's to hoping most of the 300mil Americans smarten up and quit taking Fox News or CNN as fact.

Posted by: AngryChineseDriver.wordpress.com | May 19, 2008 1:28 AM

I still remember that speech where he said

"I was the son of a single mother;
I had to have hope to get where I am today"

Obama may not be able to give women the fist female Presidency, but his election still speaks volume about how much society has changed.

Either one could easily have been the Democratic nominee facing a divided party.

Posted by: eljefejesus | May 19, 2008 1:09 AM

To vote out of ill-will for someone you know will be to your hurt is PERVESITY. If you are a Christian or a believer in a righteous and holy Deity you know you will be judged one day for that vote. Because why? It would be deliberate complicity. Everywhere I go I tell people what horrific thing happened to me 5 days before the WTC so-called terrorist attack. The short version (not to bore you) is that I seemed to be falling in what I thought was the world's biggest chimney. Luckily I got out of the vision before I got killed by that orange fireball that was coming up at me while I was rapidly descending down to it! Now, I'm a Republican, but more importantly, a New Testament Christian. I have no need to lie to complete strangers. And yet, I believed the government alibi about what happened on 9/11 for almost 5 years. I refused to see Michael Moore's film on the basis of "call a cigar a cigar." I refused all conspiracies--not giving any alternative explananation the time of day. But one day, in the summer of 2005, I was at a book store and I chanced upon a book called "Painful Questions about 911" [Google it]. I was scared to open it. But I did. I was SHOCKED. The vision I had also added to the weight of the arguments the author put forth: that the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition. Check out Scholarsfor911truth.com and the Google available film "Loosechange the Final Cut" My point is this: the war was founded on a selfmanufactured "crisis" The evidence is THICK that it was an inside job. Don't judge the evidence of what it was before you carefully look it over. TREASON and MASS MURDER of AMERICANS was committed before we ever set foot on the sands of Iraq people! Please, I beg you PLEASE check out these things for yourself and do not dismiss the evidence out of hand. Please, my friends, do not allow the Republicans to maintain power for another 4 years [even if you are Republican or even if you don't personally care for Obama). If I just can convince one person to check out the possibility of treason on that sad day in 2001 I can consider that vision that I had was not in vain. You know the Lord has said there is nothing that is hidden that shall not be revealed. And I am a living witness that that is so true. Vote for the greatest good for the greatest number of people. Vote with integrity and not out of spite. Think about lame veterans and youngster who got killed and never came to the potentials of their life. Think about people in the towers who couldn't get down. Think about beautiful Iraqi men and women and children and babies who got destoyed like worthless junk because of a lust for oil and wealth. Be compassionate. Be lucid. Be gracious. The maddness has to stop before it spreads into Iran--which will certainly happen if McCain takes office.

Posted by: Markos Mountjoy | May 19, 2008 1:02 AM

Forget Katrina. Remember Emmitt Till!

This is still a pure USA!

Semper FI!

Posted by: EAST COAST | May 19, 2008 1:01 AM

to Obama and his minions,
don't play nicey-nicey because Hillary will win for sure.

Posted by: jyotinc | May 19, 2008 1:00 AM

I was there. He talked about lifting citizens UP instead of pushing them DOWN. Gays, elders, minorities, genders, youths are all denied one thing or another, and in many cases remedial policies are right at our fingertips. Regardless of that, spitefulness is yucky and counter-productive... in your life and in this campaign.

Posted by: Maven O'Meliora | May 19, 2008 12:55 AM

Audrey, my Messiah is Jesus. Obama is the one I'm voting for president. I'm not persuaded with guilt by association, no matter how long someone knew someone. I'm not persuaded by fear, or rather, I prefer to confront my fears head on.

But no matter how nice someone tries to be, there are supporters who will act like jerks. And the more you have, the less able you are to control them.

Even so, I would be happy to change my mind if someone can give me a good, logical reason not to vote for Obama. Yes, the reason has to be logical, not emotional.

Anyhow, there were 75,000 people out there to hear him speak today. We are the new majority. Learn to accept it.

It's not like you have a choice. One vote will never outweigh 75,000 votes in a true Democracy.

Posted by: Joe | May 19, 2008 12:54 AM

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For those who continue to say this is all about race, you are absolutely right. If Obama were not black he would have been criticized and crucified like Hillary has been. The easiest way to make this point is think about this. IF BARAK OBAMA WERE RUNNING AGAINST COLIN POWELL,WOULD THERE BE ANY DOUBT AS TO WHO WOULD WIN? THERE WOULDN'T EVEN BE A CONTEST. OBAMA WOULD BE OUT!!!!!

Posted by: Nancy | May 18, 2008 6:48 PM ---


Nancy, you are so right! Obama pales next to Powell. It's unfortunate about the UN deal, but I always liked the idea of Powell as president. Obamaphiles are blind to the fact that many of us Hillary supporters don't trust Obama since he's so phony and inexperienced. It has nothing to do with Obama's race. I think in 8-12 years, Obama will be a fantastic candidate once he's proven himself on a national level. So far he has no record; all he offers are vague promises and hollywood-like speeches that countless politicians in the past have offered. And then he claims not to be just like all the other politicians, ha!

Posted by: laurel nyc | May 19, 2008 12:41 AM

The DNC , media and Obama have treated Hillary Clinton with amazing disrespect.

Women have had it.

And, their fathers, husbands, and sons agree.

Vote for Hillary to save our country!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 19, 2008 12:35 AM

nycvoter: You are correct. Obama has allowed the name-calling, race-card throwing, insults and attacks against Hillary and her supporters for months, because it served his purposes. Now, he wants us all to "come together" to defeat McCain. Fat chance. I wouldn't vote for him if he were the only person on the ballot.

Posted by: Fred | May 19, 2008 12:33 AM

If Obama really wanted to be nice to Clinton supporters, it should come from the top. Why hasn't he once said since West Virginia "the Democrats in West Virginia are not racist, they simply believe Clinton is the better choice, but if I become the nominee I will work my heart out to gain every single vote in West Virginia, from Democrats, Independents and Republicans" No, instead he lets the media go on and on about how uneducated racsits are the base of Clinton's support. He has allowed racism to be his excuse and to solidify his support in the African American community. He will never get my vote, not because I am a Hillary Clinton supporter, but because I am an American!

Posted by: nycvoter | May 19, 2008 12:12 AM

WE WISH TO GO ON RECORD AND STATE THAT WE SUPPORT OBAMA. He is our savior, and he shall deliver the world from sin.

Signed,

Louis Farrakhan
The Nation of Islam
Hamas
The New Black Panther Party
Rev. "GD America" Wright
William "the bomb" Ayers
Al Sharpton
Tony Rezko
Oprah "I used to go to Obama's church but got out just in time" Winfrey

And various other racists, terrorists and indicted individuals.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 19, 2008 12:07 AM

Hahaha, I love how Obama treats those who don't worship the ground he walks on. First, he said months ago that he would get ALL Clinton supporters, while Clinton wouldn't be able to get his. Think again, buddy!!! We're not falling for your charm and empty promises. And having your followers "be nice" to us now, after months of hurling insults at us is as blatently phony as your wearing a flag pin now.

News alert, Mr Obama: Clinton supporters are not stupid, and we won't buy your phoniness.

Posted by: laurel nyc | May 19, 2008 12:04 AM

if obama gets the nomination i will be switching to ind and voting mccain im going to put country over party and obama is no where close to presidental material .....i dont care what he or hillary say also ive had all of the thug and bulling i can stand from obama supporters thats why they lose some every day so please keep it up and piss off some more .......

Posted by: blazer | May 18, 2008 11:51 PM

As usual, BHO uses patronizing language when speaking about Hillary supporters, just as he has been patronizing and sexist when speaking about Hillary (she's "likable enough", "gets her claws out when she's down,")or to other women (e.g. "sweetie" to the female journalist). So it's not surprising that he would speak in this patronizing, kindergarten way. But maybe he also understands the dumbing-down necessary to speak to his own supporters, who have to take direction from BO instead of having learned basic courtesy and civility a long time ago (try 1st grade).
As for all of you BO supporters who now belatedly want us to join you because of the fearmongering about a McCain presidency (e.g. Roe v. Wade), and that we're not supporting BO because of "hurt feelings," don't judge us by your own infantile standards. There are some of us who have genuine concerns about what a disaster Obambi will be as President due to his total lack of foreign policy experience (talking about invading Pakistan, and sitting down with nutjobs like Ahmadinijad w/o preconditions)and equal lack of experience with economic issues. This guy has never held a real, salaried job in the non-government economy for more than 3 years. That's who you want to put in charge of the free world? Not me. As for Roe v. Wade and the next Supreme Ct. justice, I heard that when Gore and Kerry were running, and we still didn't get them elected, and the sky did not fall in. Newsflash -- since the advent of the morning-after pill being sold over-the-counter, abortion is less and less an issue, and it will not be overturned.

Posted by: West Coast | May 18, 2008 11:50 PM

It is a little too late for Sen. Obama to tell his supporters to be nice to the Clinton supporters. He should have thought of that sooner. Every time, which were many Sen. Obama stumbled he blamed Sen. Clinton for his mistakes. So tired of Sen. Obama of blaming Hillary so much including getting his surrogates to have her drop of the race. Sen. Obama is too immature and weak to be President. Do not have voter regret. Send Hillary all the way to the White House.

Posted by: Ethel S. | May 18, 2008 11:38 PM

MARTI: WHATS SO STUPID ABOUT IT. THE WHITE MAN HAS HAD HIS NOW ITS OUR TURN. BARAK WILL MAKE IT RIGHT AND GIVE US WHATS OURS.

Posted by: Obamamama | May 18, 2008 11:38 PM

obamamama..that was the stupidest comment you could have put on this post.

I am black and an obama support, but your post is completly uncalled for.

Posted by: marti | May 18, 2008 11:36 PM

BARAK AND REVEREND WRIGHT ARE RIGHT, GOD D*** AMERICA FOR SLAVERY AND JIM CROW.

NOW IS THE TIME TO RALLY AROUND BARAK AND MICHELLE AND MAKE THEM PROUD!

HE WILL UNITE THE PEOPLE OF COLOR AROUND THE WORLD TO FIGHT THE WHITE OPPRESSOR. THE WHITE MAN HAS HAD HIS DAY. BLACK PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HELD DOWN TO LONG.

NO MORE SO CALLED ELECTIONS WHERE TYPICAL WHITE PEOPLE VOTE IN RACIST PEOPLE WHO DONT WORK FOR US.

AND NEWS FLASH MERICAN, BARAK IS RIGHT, YOUR TYPICAL WHITE PERSON IS A RACIST.

BARAK WILL APOLOGIZE TO OUR MUSLIM BROTHERS FOR ARRAGANT AMERICAN POLICIES OF HATE AND SLAVERY.

NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY REV. WRIGHT IS RIGHT, ONLY BARAK CAN FORGIVE AN EVIL NATION FOUNDED ON SLAVERY.

REPARATIONS NOW!

Posted by: Obamamama | May 18, 2008 11:33 PM

Oh Audrey ..get a life.

Posted by: marti | May 18, 2008 11:29 PM

OBAMA SUPPORTERS FYI: Don't feel insulted if I fail to answer your comments. The fact of the matter is that I AM NOT TALKING TO YOU. I am only interest in talking to those Democrats and Independents who have informed themselves about this issues in this process. For months and months I did try to educated/debate with Obama supporters; show them articles to read; try and make the best case for my arguments; and NOT ONCE did any of this discussion change one mind or make one Obama supporter question their Messiah. No, what I found out is that if Obama killed a baby on live television, his cultists would say it was a mercy killing. They will not, cannot, digest any information which is not consistent with their preconceived notions about him and his candidacy. So no, I feel no compulsion to have a dialogue with most Obama supporters. The time for discussing the issues with them has come and gone. Now is the time to assist in the defeat of Obama, for the sake of our families, and for the sake of this country.

Posted by: Audrey | May 18, 2008 11:25 PM

Audrey, is that you again?

You made your point..enough already.

Posted by: Marti | May 18, 2008 11:24 PM

Some Obama supporters say that Hillary supporters should support Obama rather than McCain because Obama's policies are similar to Hillary's. However, they are assuming that Obama's policy statements are the only issues in the election. Yes, Obama claims that his policies are very much like Hillary's, but being the most deceptive politician in my lifetime, how can we know if that's true. But more importantly, before you analyze anyone's policies, you must look at their character. Obama has shown, time and time again, to be deceptive, ruthless and divisive. If anything, Obama has shown himself to be more ruthless and dishonest than most. And, his 20 year allegiance to a racist and anti-American "mentor and spiritual adviser" destroys his pretense as a candidate who can bring America together. All we have left now, is a typical politician with little experience. ******

Posted by: Anonymous | May 18, 2008 11:20 PM

One of the funniest of delusions of supposed hillary supporters is that their going to swing the election to McBush in 08 and hillary is going to run in 2012. You really couldn't be democrats...you'd know that the party hates losers. There is no way she would get half the votes she's gotten this time again, especially if her and her supporters throw this election.

I doubt she will even be reelected in the senate.

Posted by: duh | May 18, 2008 11:00 PM

HRC supporters that are going to vote McCain in the general election should be ashamed of themselves. You guys are willing to let ultra conservatives judges get placed on the Supreme Court (you do realize they'll be there for LIFE right?!?) and soldiers DIE in a flawed war? All because some college students hurt your feelings on a message board? Please realize that this election is a lot more important then your personal feelings. There are some VERY important things at stakes (the lives of our children in one case) and to not vote for a candidate that shares virtually the same platform as HRC over something so petty is shameful.

Posted by: CRC | May 18, 2008 10:59 PM

I am a lifelong Democrat and Hillary supporter. I am also one of HRC's supporters who absolutely intends to vote for McCain in the General should Nobama be "our" nominee. I would have never expected this anti-democratic behavior and incessant spewing of vitriolic comments from fellow democrats (Obama supporters) toward HRC supporters that I have seen day after day after day. And Obama is well aware of all it, and has done absolutely nothing to try and get his supporters to tone it down.

AND I am not uneducated, so quit with the bashing on socioeconomic grounds. And on age and gender for that matter. HRC supporters are sick of it, and we absolutely will not vote for Obama. No way.

I have a post-graduate degree, and am well off financially, so cut the bashing.

p.s. there is nothing new about Obama or his politics. He is cut from old-school Chicago political machine. And he's been playing the political game for a while now. Check out what he did to Alice Palmer to get a seat in the state senate a few years ago!

McCain '08
Hillary '12
Anyone but Barack "Present" Obama

Posted by: Jimmy Z. | May 18, 2008 10:45 PM

Yes, Mark, I have been on more than one blog. So, what? Is that not allowed now under the new "Obama regime?"

Posted by: Ruth | May 18, 2008 10:44 PM

Thanks to Obama's good guy vs. bad guy campaign, we clinton supporters have had to deal with s--t like *this* for the last 3 months
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/Robbedvoter/Interesting%20times/fp2grs.png

fool us once obama, shame on you. not going to happen again. and that's what inexperience gets you. you are no uniter obama, you are a fraud.

Posted by: Sam | May 18, 2008 10:41 PM

I am a strong Hillary supporter and continue to believe that she would make a great president. I will vote for Senator Obama if he is the nominee. I hope for an Obama-Clinton ticket. I admired John McCain back in 2000 - but the times have changed and so too it seems has Senator McCain (offering litte more than Bush light policy). With the mess that the Bush administration is leaving behind I believe it is imperative that we have a real change.

I do want the Obama supporters to realize that Hillary has supporters that feel and believe just as passionatly about her as they feel about Senator Obama. This race will for all intensive purposes end in a statistical tie - although I do believe that Obama ran a better campaign strategically - what we are left with are two great candidates with highly motivated constituences.

I don't need Obama supporters to "be nice" - I do want them to recognize that the constituency of Hillary Clinton represents about 50% of the democratic party - and if they want our full support and enthusiasm (along with our votes) in the fall -- they will recognize our concerns and our passion, in the same way that we are asked to see theirs.


Posted by: Gary in Nashville | May 18, 2008 10:34 PM

"Obama supporters. Please keep on insulting and attacking us Hillary supporters. It just strengthens our resolve to do everything we can to assist in the defeat of Obama. So keep it up. WE LOVE IT !!"

Ah Ruth, Ruth, I've seen that exact same comment on another blog. That's about the only tactic the campaign has left now I suppose. Makes me smile. I love it.

Posted by: Mark O | May 18, 2008 10:29 PM

"As many of you know, Obama has hired hundreds of paid bloggers to surf the net and spread his lies and propaganda...."

Wow, you guys are so paranoid! But then, I suppose it's the sort of thing the Hillary campaign might have attempted if they hadn't wasted all of that cash on parties and hotel rooms early on.

Posted by: Mark O | May 18, 2008 10:23 PM

Obama supporters. Please keep on insulting and attacking us Hillary supporters. It just strengthens our resolve to do everything we can to assist in the defeat of Obama. So keep it up. WE LOVE IT !!

Posted by: Ruth | May 18, 2008 10:23 PM

I love how Obama and his supporters, who have trashing Hillary Clinton and her supporters for months, now want us all to "just get along." And the DNC and party elite, after trying to shove Obama down our throats, want us all to unite. Well, THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. Every Democrat I've spoken to, and that's a lot, has told me that they plan on voting for McCain, if Obama is the nominee, and I am proud to be among them. Better a centrist Republican, than a deceptive and divisive Obama.

Posted by: Emily | May 18, 2008 10:21 PM

All you Clinton supporters, listen to what your candidate has said:

"Anybody who has ever voted for me or voted for Barack has much more in common in terms of what we want to see happen in our country and in the world with the other than they do with John McCain," Clinton said on CNN's "The Situation Room."

"I'm going to work my heart out for whoever our nominee is. Obviously, I'm still hoping to be that nominee, but I'm going to do everything I can to make sure that anyone who supported me ... understands what a grave error it would be not to vote for Sen. Obama."

HILLARY HERSELF DOES NOT WANT YOU VOTE FOR MCCAIN. She says that would be a terrible mistake. A grave error. Pay attention.

Posted by: Joe | May 18, 2008 10:20 PM

The tenor of a many anti-Obama comments posted in these pages surprises me.

If children wrote these things, at the least we'd banish them to a corner.

I suggest a little exercise: pick any one of these diatribes, but substitute HRC's name for Obama's (or whatever variant thereon the particular scribe has selected).

After you read that, can you in good conscience claim that Obama supporters have been nastier to HRC than her supporters have been, both to him and to his supporters?

And don't you think it's time to stop this nonsense?

Posted by: Helen | May 18, 2008 10:19 PM

Some Obama supporters say that Hillary supporter should support Obama rather than McCain because Obama's policies are similar to Hillary's. However, they are assuming that Obama's policy statements are the only issues in the election. Yes, Obama claims that his policies are very much like Hillary's, but being the most deceptive politician in my lifetime, how can we know if that's true. But more importantly, before you analyze anyone's policies, you must look at their character. Obama has shown, time and time again, to be deceptive, ruthless and divisive. If anything, Obama has shown himself to be more ruthless and dishonest than most. And, his 20 year allegiance to a racist and anti-American "mentor and spiritual adviser" destroys his pretense as a candidate who can bring America together. All we have left now, is a typical politician with little experience. ******

Posted by: Audrey | May 18, 2008 10:17 PM

As many of you know, Obama has hired hundreds of paid bloggers to surf the net and spread his lies and propaganda. After reviewing many of these posts, it appears that they have developed a strategy to con Hillary Clinton supporters and Independents into voting for Obama using various ploys, including: (1) The "Supreme Court" card, i.e. if Obama doesn't win, McCain will appoint conservative judges. (2) The "Roe v. Wade" card, i.e. if Obama doesn't win, the Supreme Court will overturn Roe v. Wade; (3) The "race card,", which we are all very familiar with since Obama entered the race i.e. if you are against Obama, then you are a racist; (4) The "real Democrat" card, i.e. "real Democrats" will vote for the Democratic nominee whether they like him/her or not; (5) The "baby killer card", i.e. if John McCain wins, he will institute a draft and you will be responsible for the killing of babies; and (6) The "Hillary would want you to vote for Obama" card, which is self-explanatory. ______
It is important to know that although Obama, his supporters, the DNC and party elite, and the mainstream media have conspired to marginalize the millions of Democrats who have voted for Hillary, or who do not support Obama, they will now be using every trick in the book to "bring the party together" to further the ruthless ambitions of Obama and the party elite. They will want you to forget all about the months and months of biased press, the biased party elite, the insults, and the race-cards. They will want you to forget that the Democratic Party now is the party that stands for disenfranchisement and the rationalization of racism, if it results in the nomination of their hand-picked candidate. They will use all of the above-mentioned "cards" and more, to persuade you to vote for the man who they have preordained as the Democratic nominee. DON'T FALL FOR IT!
_______
Whether you want to write-in Hillary, if possible, vote for John McCain rather than Obama, or sit out the election, remember that your action or inaction could result in the election of the inexperienced, deceptive, ruthless and divisive Obama. UNLESS YOU DESIRE THIS RESULT, PLEASE MAKE YOUR DECISIONS WISELY.

Posted by: James | May 18, 2008 10:14 PM

Well I just hope Hillary calls a cease fire fairly soon so this anti-Obama bitterness has a chance to die down. It's crazy to think that any Clinton fan would choose McCain over Obama. But if that's what they want to do, then that's fine with me. It's their choice. I suspect most of this talk is just hot air anyway so I'm not worried (it's happened in past campaigns). I suppose Obama's registration drive will just have to work a bit harder.

The thing that gets me is how sensitive so many people are. Obama says be nice and they take it as an insult. He makes some innocuous gesture, it's an insult. He smiles, it's arrogant. He doesn't smile he's arrogant. I don't think it's the Obama fans who have to chill out.

Now I've got to get going. Be nice to each other. :-)

Posted by: mjo1 | May 18, 2008 10:10 PM

I started off as a Hillary supporter and I still think she should continue to fight for the nomination. I feel that she would be the best person for the presidency out of the 3 running nominees.

However if Hillary does not win then there is NO way in hell that I would vote for McCain! I would gladly vote for Obama over McCain anyday.

I'm surprised to see that some of my fellow Hillary supporters on this site are suggesting that they would vote the other way.

Come on folks, it's not time to take things personal. Its time to vote for the most qualified to make the changes we need in this country. You won't get that with McCain.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 18, 2008 10:03 PM

greenfun, and what if by some miraculous event Hillary became the nominee, you don't think Obama supporters would feel the same about your candidate?

And your point is throw out the democratic process because some people think he's inexperienced? Mmmm. Inexperienced presidents, let's think for a moment. Lincoln, Kennedy and Bill Clinton. Oh, and George Bush II. Experience is no indication whether a president is successful or not. And Hillary loses on that criteria to McCain anyway. So where is her advantage in the general election? Logic my friends - please.

Posted by: mjo1 | May 18, 2008 9:54 PM

I find it amazing that any real Hillary Clinton voters would actually vote for McCain over Obama. On policy, there is not much difference from Obama vs Clinton, but then again maybe many of Hillary supporters are Rush Limbaugh republicans, or they like the idea of 4 more years of Bush's failed policy, the war in iraq, a failed economy, no universal health care and all the issues that really matter.

Posted by: joseph blow | May 18, 2008 9:48 PM

After calculated personal attacks on Sen. Clinton,

http://annienyc.blogspot.com/2008/04/barack-obamas-personal-attacks-on-sen.html

turning your rabid supporters into a vicious bunch of thugs so that you can turn this election into good guy vs. bad guy, you think "play nice kids" is going to turn the tide? yeah. right. We're not all as dumb as your kool-aid kiddie crowd. We're voting nobama. what a uniter you turned out to be.

Posted by: Jessi | May 18, 2008 9:48 PM

All you Sen. Obama supporters need to chill out. Nothing you say or do will change the way many Hillary supporters feel about your guy. From the get-go, he has taken every opportunity to bash President Clinton's administration. For those of us "older women Democrats," that is a direct slap in the face as we were the ones working the phones, GOTV, doing visibility events for President Clinton. Sen. Obama has shown little if any respect for the only two term Democratic president in my lifetime. He said nothing to his online supporters to tone down the rhetoric spewing from their ranks..frankly, it was the utter hatred and disrespect shown Sen. Clinton by Sen. Obama's supporters that turned me off to him in the first place. I wanted nothing to do with that group. Later, however, I saw and heard Sen. Obama lie with my own eyes. I witnessed Republican-like tactics. The final straw for me was when he and his supporters refused to allow Michigan and Florida a revote. He reminds me too much of George W. Bush, and I can't stand GWBush. Needless to say, it's Hillary or the highway for this voter. Hillary '08.

Posted by: cplummer | May 18, 2008 9:48 PM

Be nice? Please...that's about as low-handed as his "sweetie" and "bitter" remarks. A true leader would have praised the Senator for her strength and her dedication to this country. A true leader would have also praised her supporters for their dedication even in the face of huge odds. A true leader he is not. Just a guy who knows how to read a speech and has taken the consumer approach to winning votes. Crowds don't equate sound judgment. Crowds waved on Hitler. (I'm not saying Obama is Hitler, Obamabots, so chill). Crowds gather to see Paris Hilton. Crowds don't pay attention to what really happens in elections. It takes individuals to do research, to truly understand a candidate and her/his positions. I wonder how many in the crowd know of Barack's support of the Bush/Cheney's Energy Bill that has stripped Oregonians of their rights of self-determination when it comes to liquified natural gas and nuclear power plants. Great for the environment. Great for state's rights. What a Great Leader.

Posted by: PDXEric | May 18, 2008 9:48 PM

Linda, fine - you go right ahead and vote for McCain if that's what you really want to do. But it seems a little strange to do that if you're a Hillary supporter, considering that she's likely to have an important role in any Democratic administration. A matter of cutting off your nose to spite your face perhaps?

Posted by: mjo1 | May 18, 2008 9:45 PM

I think Obama and his supporters are in for a big shock. You don't get it. Many Clinton supporters have never thought he was qualified, so do not plan on voting for him.

Posted by: greenfun | May 18, 2008 9:42 PM

Millions of American's will vote for experience not oratory skills. Most of the posts think McCain is the only alternate candidate. If Hillary is not the nominee I will be looking at McCain, Paul, Barr and other third party candidates expected to announce.

Clinton supporters have others to choose from other than McCain and I guarantee you they will. Obama just will NOT get our votes.

The problem we have had for the last 8 years is the Republican controlled Congress 'were Party loyal' no matter what. Bush said it or did it, they fell in line like good little party loyalists. I refuse to be 'Party loyal' to the detriment of our Country by buying into this 'Democrats Unite' Bull****. Voters elect a QUALIFIED EXPERIENCED candidate no matter what party.

Posted by: Linda | May 18, 2008 9:41 PM

Posted by: mjo1 | May 18, 2008 9:38 PM

"Clinton supporters are more about the will of the people. She's ahead in the popular vote. You can take away our MI and FL delegates, but you can't take away our votes. And by June 1st, she'll have more of the popular vote than Obama without MI and FL.

Well, actually, you're not. I'm a citizen of Michigan, and if anyone is disenfranchising us it is Hillary. Had she removed her name from the ballot as every other candidate did we probably could have had a revote.

I know a lot of democrats here in Michigan. Some have been Obama supporters, some were Clinton supporters. All will support the democratic nominee regardless of who they are. None that I know of feel that our votes should be counted. Everyone knew what it was about and most didn't go to the polls.

Take a look at the turnout in MI and FL compared to past races and compare that to the exponential increase in turnout in states that counted and try to continue to make your argument.

Posted by: duh | May 18, 2008 9:35 PM

Well actually by most estimates she's *not* ahead in the popular vote, even if you count Michigan and Florida. Where did you get that from?

And how can Florida and Michigan count anyway, if Obama wasn't on the ballot in Michigan, and neither candidate campaigned in either state. Even Hillary said at the time that the results wouldn't count. So how can they count now?

Posted by: mjo1 | May 18, 2008 9:33 PM

To Volunteer

Thank God there are 75,000+ people who don't share your ignorance.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 18, 2008 9:32 PM

Perhaps, they are Republicans in Democrat clothing posting here, but I'm sure there are some Clinton supporters out there, who feel that they were robbed of a presidency.

Regardless of where you stand, I hope, we all step back and look at the issues that are important to us and who will best serve as President.

[ I find it troubling, that a number of supporters for Hillary only cared about having a woman as President; If not Hillary, then they will vote for McCain, whose ideas differ so drastically from Clinton and Obama's. There's no doubt, we will have a female President someday; We're certainly overdue... assuming our country were to survive a McCain Presidency... ]

Posted by: wolf | May 18, 2008 9:27 PM

Clinton supporters are more about the will of the people. She's ahead in the popular vote. You can take away our MI and FL delegates, but you can't take away our votes. And by June 1st, she'll have more of the popular vote than Obama without MI and FL.

I don't care what some Senator from MA thinks. I care about folks who are hurting.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 18, 2008 9:26 PM

volunteer,

Yes I suppose democracy is rather sad.

Posted by: mjo1 | May 18, 2008 9:23 PM

To Kalli and EsmereldaB

I cannot believe the bitterness and insanity that you display.

You and people like you are the reason that we are in this big mess with the economy, gas prices and a never ending war that your precious nominee Hillary voted for.

The fact that you are stating you would vote for McCain instead of Obama because Hillary lost fair and square is well, childish.

Vote for McCane and will see 100 more years of this war go on, a continued dwindling economy (since McCane has no clue) and gas prices soar to $10.

Tell your story to the countless mother's who lost thier son's and daughter in this ridiculous war that McCane refuses to end.

If this happens then Kalli, Esmereldab and others like you will be to blame.

Posted by: tmra | May 18, 2008 9:23 PM

It is sad to see that as much as Obama has been shown to be an empty suit, people in Oregon (75,000) flock to listen to this "flim Flam Man"

Posted by: volunteer | May 18, 2008 9:21 PM

I find it interesting that while the supposed democratic clingon supporters who say they'll never vote obama manage to disagree with:

100 female super delegates and counting
More democratic governors
More democratic senators
More democratic representitives

you know, along with more states, more delegates, more popular vote that counts. Keep your imaginary metrics close, maybe they'll keep you warm.

I said long ago I am not talking to sensible democrats who have supported hillary. She fought a great fight but underestimated her opponent. there just aren't do-overs, so here we are.

I will, however, ridicule those who advance specious arguments to hide some secret agenda because, well, it's fun and easy and I'm a bit bored tonight.

Hey, I didn't bring up the pies, I just transported it from the link that was posted to HRC's own forum. If the analology fits...

Posted by: duh | May 18, 2008 9:20 PM

drossless | May 18, 2008 9:14 PM

As I said, don't try and place your words in my mouth. I don't play games. You want to make me into something I have not been, then go right ahead and have fun feeling you can turn the tables and get away with sounding pious and righteous and I am the mean and nasty Hillary supporter. Like I said, you are welcome to have all the fun you want at my expense. At this point I could care less what mind games you want to play with me.

Posted by: Patty | May 18, 2008 9:19 PM

Scorber, then I suppose Obama can't win in your book. If he says "be nice" he's obnoxious. If he had said "don't be nice" then he's be worse than obnoxious? This sort of toxicity displayed by some Hillary supporters simply won't help the party in November. Unless you're really a Republican. You wouldn't be one of those, would you?

Posted by: mjo1 | May 18, 2008 9:18 PM

get lost Franky-boy

Posted by: scorber | May 18, 2008 9:17 PM

to duh

I am sorry but I am not going to discuss further anything with a person who will not listen and consider the content of what is offered . You are welcome to live in your world with your ideas that almost 17,000,000 people who have voted for Hillary are expendable and that you can win the Presidency for Obama by considering them, as some appear to, as subhumans who need to be ridiculed and demeaned as racists because they haven't seen the light and if you hammer them enough with insults they will eventually fall into line. Enjoy your time and as I stated, I will look forward to see how you are going to win him the Presidency with half the party who voted for her for whatever reason, to be no longer cosnidered "democrats".

Posted by: Patty | May 18, 2008 9:14 PM

Patty, you said "When the condescension and name calling stops coming in my direction, fine."

Be the change you want to see.

Posted by: drossless | May 18, 2008 9:14 PM

To EsmareldaB and Kalli, and to all those who doubt that this race is over, just settle down and soberly look at the facts. Obama is ahead in every category, the superdelegates are moving his way, even Hillary's supporters aren't turning up to caucus for her anymore (as in Nevada). the few contests left aren't going to change anything. Everything is pointing to an Obama win.

My point is that if you truly believe in health care reform, getting out of Iraq, a fairer society, you know, all those things Hillary says she's in favor of, then you shouldn't put too much energy in attacking Obama's candidacy, because he's going to be the nominee.

Face it, the race is over. Hillary knows it, the superdelegates know it, heck even the media have it right finally. Anybody who has an ounce of sense knows it.

Posted by: mjo1 | May 18, 2008 9:13 PM

I see. So he's declaring victory even though he doesn't have enough pledged delegates and he's now encouraging "being nice to Clinton supporters."

This guy will never get my vote, period. His supporters are incredibly obnoxious, and so is he.

He has shown no leadership on anything in his lifetime, including getting his supporters -- till now -- to "be nice."

He has some of the crassest group of supporters I've seen anywhere, and I guess now he's "exercising leadership." Not.

Posted by: scorber | May 18, 2008 9:10 PM

Franky, I agree.

If you don't mind a neighbour sticking his nose into your politics: please focus on removing the criminal regime.

Surely a chunk of these antagonistic democrats are just Republican agents provocateur? If not, it's alarming! Democrats, please, snap out of it.

.

Posted by: Canadian passerby | May 18, 2008 9:08 PM

"...trading pie recipes..."

Nice.

Tha't's gonna win over a lot of Clinton supporters....keep that up. That will keep unification efforts at arms' length for a very long time.

Posted by: joywinnie | May 18, 2008 8:53 PM

Jenn:
Thanks for the link. It goes to further demonstrate that the Obama campaign has one set of rules for others and a different set for themselves. Jackson-Lee is booed for not following the "new Obama rules" of superdelegates must vote as their constituents do, at the same time Obama is lavishing praise and accepting the support of Kerry, Kennedy, Richardson and the Governor of Oklahoma etc. whose states all went for Hillary.

Posted by: Patty | May 18, 2008 8:33 PM

Patty...I should have clarified. The rabid zombies who are supporting these specious arguments, like counting votes that were agreed not to count and claiming that BO gave hillary the finger and on and on and on are not democrats first. There aint 17,000,000 of you. I doubt there are 17,000, but enjoy the pitty party you all are throwing. I doubt you outnumber those who turned out for Obama in Oregon.

There were the Regan Democrats and now there's the Hillary democrats. The only difference is one group got their candidate to the presidency and the other will be trading pie recipes on HRC's website until she can't afford to keep it up anymore.

Keep up the entertainment. There's nothing on tv right now.

Posted by: duh | May 18, 2008 8:30 PM

I agree that women of the Democratic Party will not go quietly.  We will vote for Hillary Clinton and we will use our economic power to voice our concerns about the media.This is democracy at work.

Posted by: A new Democratic Day | May 18, 2008 8:29 PM

I will never vote for OBambi and I am disgusted by the way the Media and the Democrats have pushed Hillary out of the race. I will write in Hillary or vote for McCain. Obambi is arrogant.

Posted by: OBambi | May 18, 2008 8:29 PM

We don't have to like Barack Obama, his campaign tricks, or his arrogance. The fact that he considers himself the baddest that ever lived doesn't make him so. But now we have to move ahead, take back our country and demand that our president is accountable to the people. If Barack Obama can't get us out of Iraq and improve the domestic situation in this country, then we need to make him eat crow.

Posted by: Maryam Ayazi | May 18, 2008 8:27 PM

I agree that woman of the Democratic Party will not go quietly. We will vote for Hillary Clinton and we will use our economic power to voice our concerns about the media.

This is democracy at work.

Posted by: A new Democratic Day | May 18, 2008 8:27 PM

To duh
You falsely put forth two idealisms between Hillary supporters and Democrats. I was under the presumption that Hillary supporters were democrats. If you presume otherwise then the democratic party just shrunk by 17,000,000 people and just exactly where do you propose to find enough needed to ensure a "Democratic" win if Hillary suporters are no longer deemed as part of the party? If you feel Obama can win on what is left, perhaps you could share it with all of us and especially your candidate since he seems to think you have to play nice all of a sudden to those who support Hillary otherwise he can't win.

Posted by: Patty | May 18, 2008 8:25 PM

Don't be so quick to say the campaign is over, there's still some states and many people waiting to be heard. Do not be in such a hurry to cut them off, unless perhaps there is a fear that they'll go big for Hillary like West Virginia just did. Those people weren't fooled by the opposition, not one minute.

It's no use patting Hillary supporters on the head and telling them you'll be nice, and for them to run along. Too little, too late. Senator Clinton, her platform for making a better America, and her supporters, have all been treated like dirt. Alienation is a bad thing and will come back to bite you, and deservedly so.

With the overwhelming aid of the rabid, biased media, many have been blind to Obama's ever expanding list of foibles, not to mention the poor company he keeps, we haven't. His presumptuous, cocksure attitude does little to bring us in. As a candidate, he's a whole lot weaker than his Kool Aid.

I will never vote Obama. And if I can't vote Clinton, I will vote McCain.

Posted by: EsmeraldaB | May 18, 2008 8:23 PM

A concern democrat:

How exactly has Obama won? He has not reached 2025 yet, he has not won the popular votes, and how many states did he win? Yeah those states that vote in caucus right? He is campaigning to win the nomination by default and it takes a gusty lady to say NO to that default and NO to that establishment. Now who is the establishment candidate? And he preach to change the establishment that has supported him. No dice. If he is the nominee, the establishment will change him, not the other way round.

Do understand the system, he has not reached the 2025 and he is not leading in the popular votes.

Posted by: Kalli | May 18, 2008 8:20 PM

Omg...has anyone ever looked at the HRC link that cajuncookoo posted? That is some funny stuff. She should start a cult...these folks are completely insane. I just thought they were bitter old biddys, but now I see. All i can say is roflmao. They're in there making baked desert analogies...hahahaha.

Thank you for the entertainment.

Posted by: duh | May 18, 2008 8:19 PM

Fruadulama should have instructed his mob of that after this incident.

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/30/rep-sheila-jackson-lee-booed-by-pro-obama-constituents/

Posted by: Jenn | May 18, 2008 8:17 PM

OK, the race is all but over, so let's do what the nominee says and be nice to each other, shall we? Both candidates ran a good race, but there can only be one winner. Whether Hillary fans think Obama can win in November is moot. If they want to really support their party, they have to get behind Obama. Sorry, that's just how it is.

I expect Hillary will call a cease fire fairly soon, so hopefully that will filter through to her most enthusiastic backers. Eventually, I hope the only anti-Obama comments we'll see on these websites will be coming from Republicans.

Posted by: mjo1 | May 18, 2008 8:14 PM

Obama must be dipping in the Koolaide again. That vapid 57 state candidate thinks that Obama supporters can suddenly now be nice to us and we will fall in line and vote for him? He must be used to pushing that whiner of a wife around - Get used to it fella - you dished on Hillary's women, on white working class, the "uneducated" the gays, the lesbians, the "garlic noses", the Jews - You can have your office in Gaza call people in the States from now till a cow jumps over the moon - you're not getting my vote. I'll vote for a cock a roach before I vote for Obama.
Go McCain. Vote Republican down the ticket - remember every Obama supporter - vote for their challenger. We will never forget. If its not Hillary then we'll make our votes count and vote McCain. Chicago Combine candidate your day is coming Rezko verdict will be in within 2 weeks.

Posted by: Hanna | May 18, 2008 8:11 PM

Hey lighten up already! After all, Obama will fix your computer - and more. Check out http://obamawill.com

Posted by: Bill Vroom | May 18, 2008 8:08 PM

Posted by: cajuncocoa | May 18, 2008 8:06 PM

To tmra and BO supporters,

You finally got it, claiming experience in community organizer (how many years??) as as experienced individual is lame and foolish. I might hire him as a director of a program, nothing more. He has nothing to offer for me and I believe nothing for the rest of the American people. May I remind you GWBush also said that he would change the workings and system of Washington DC? Yeah what change did that do? Change can be good and bad. Just look at Bush, he changed the economy from booming to glooming, from $0.98 per gallon gasoline (at least in Northern Virginia) to $4.00 per gallon. Obama is running this campaign just like Bush.

Abestos has been in the books for decades, nothing new, and it has been outlawed many years ago.
Earned Income Credit has been around in the 1990s
Obama won the US senate seat by default, not by landslide. His opponent gave up due to scandal. Don't give credit when it is not earned. His state senate win was also questionable.

Did he work with private sector to create jobs? If he did it was not in any of his speeches. Up until now, he has yet to articulate his strategy to bring back the economy. He did pointed out the problems, well anyone can do that.

These projects existed before Obama and will continue to exist without Obama, so no serious original ideas or approach. All non-profit organizations in the country, and the world do what DCP is doing. So no bigges for voters like me.

Nothing about a resident suffering from abestos-related ailments mentioned in the campaign trail, no doubt its noble, but again, such experience in itself does not stand out to be claimed as experience for President.

In the Illinois State Senate, he voted "present" how many times, and MIA for how many times, and how many times "mispressed-the-button".

I am sure, junior US senators do not write laws in the US Congress.

As a chairman of the Veterans' Affairs Committee, Senator Obama has not hold any HEARINGS on Veterans Affairs. Is that a person that cares about Veterans?

Yes, Obama travelled with Dick Lugar to learn not to participate. Please don't defend the indefensible, he is just too opportunistic and he bite the hands that feed him. I hear it somewhere, that Clinton campaigned for him for his US Senate seat, is this how he pay the Clintons back, allowing his surrogates, Clyburn, Jesse Jackson Jr. and other to call Clintons racist. Pathetic. People. Wake Up. Obama will not get this educated and many other educated people votes in November.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 18, 2008 8:03 PM

To drossless who wrote:
Patty,
Your argument fails, so you turn to insult? "She hasn't learned how to walk on water yet like you feel your candidate does."
Actually, one of the things I like about Obama is that he frequently says he is far from perfect.
I know it makes you feel better to think his supporters are mislead idiots, but please don't ask for more courtesy from your opponents than you are willing to extend to them.

Excuse me, but don't feel your sarcasm gets very far with me and don't feel free to presume that you can put your words in my mouth. I gave examples to those who said he didn't lie, but those examples were dismissed. Unfortunately Obama supporters can't admit that their candidate isn't perfect and if you think my quip is overboard, then too bad - live with it. When the condescension and name calling stops coming in my direction, fine. But until then you can not prove that my comments are abusive, rude, ignorant or any quality that gets thrown around to non Obama supporters all the time. And no one is asking you to respond either. You can ignore me any time you want.

Posted by: Patty | May 18, 2008 7:49 PM

Look Ernest, you have been drinking too much kool-aide. There are plenty of people that will not be voting for Obama not just me. Women make up the majority of the Democratic Party and we will not go quietly without a fight. Obama does not appeal to main stream Americans. The democrats cannot win the general election without a broad range of demographic groups, it cannot be won with only blacks, college kids and far left liberals and that is why they have not had success since Bill Clinton.Clinton appealed to main stream Americans and that is why he won 2 terms. Ted Kennedy is the real brains behind Obama . Obama is just Ted Kennedy's puppet. Wake Up!!

Posted by: Elizabeth Lora | May 18, 2008 7:47 PM

kmb08

Do you really misunderstand this issue, or are you being intentionally misleading?

Individuals, wherever the work, are allowed to donate to candidates. But you must list your employment when you donate. Perhaps you are unaware of this because you have never donated to a candidate. Obama has received donations from individuals who work for oil companies as has every candidate. He has not taken money from oil companies. I have given money to Obama, but certainly not on behalf of my employer, who probably would not consider Obama their first choice for largess; nonetheless, my contributions are marked as being from an employee of X company. Can you understand the difference between individuals and companies?

And at any rate, the $250k you say he has raised from oil executives *since the start of his campaign* is less than 0.5% of the contributions he has raised from all individuals in *one month* alone! What sort of smoking gun do you think is there? How big a seat do you think that buys big oil at the table?

I can't explain this any more clearly. I hope you are not intentionally attempting to muddy this issue and can see the lack of merit in this line of attack.

Posted by: drossless | May 18, 2008 7:47 PM

Hillary supporters say:

if barack obama wasn't black, hillary would have won

if states that don't count counted, hillary would have won

if the democratic primary were run like the republican primary, hillary would have won

Democrats say:

if hillary admitted her mistakes and showed growth, she might have won

if hillary hadn't taken the nomination for granted, she might have won

if hillary hadn't run a republican campaign in a democratic primary, she might have won

hillary, take 8 years and have a think about a new strategy. Try being honest, humble, and allow your intelligence to govern your actions rather than an outdated political machine. We'll be there for you when you're ready.

Posted by: duh | May 18, 2008 7:42 PM

This article is a good example of how little critical analysis so-called 'journalists' offer these days.

Rather than mindlessly repeating the 'big lie' about where Obama is in the race, it would be nice, for a change, to see someone actually look objectively at the facts --

-- Obama will not have the nomination until either Sen. Clinton or the Dem Convention give it to him

-- he is behind in the popular vote

-- he has won only one big or swing state, and is trying to trick people into believing that he can simply draw a new electoral map

-- his so-called 'wins' are heavily based in caucus and republican states, and do not predict electibility

-- the DNC is about winning the White House, despite what the media wants people to think it is about

Wake up America!! Vote for Hillary!!!

Posted by: Kal | May 18, 2008 7:42 PM

To the undieing Obama supporter Carl who wrote:
Now YOU"RE going to start spitting lies ?
Sen. Tom Daschle is Barack Obama's campaign chairman.
You've been spending WAY to much time on the pro-Billary sites !
-------------------------------------------
Please avoid calling me a liar again.
Enjoy the following:

"The Tears are now officially an issue in Campaign 2008.

Obama's national campaign co-chair, Jesse Jackson, Jr., just went on MSNBC and appeared to question Hillary's tears, which he called "tears that melted the Granite State, adding that those tears "moved voters.But those tears also have to be analyzed. They have to be looked at very, very carefully in light of Katrina, in light of other things that Mrs. Clinton did not cry for, particularly as we head to South Carolina where 45% of African-Americans who participate in the Democratic contest, and they see real hope in Barack Obama."

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/01/obama_campaign_cochair_questions_hillarys_tears.php

Like I said, how low can you go? They have the video there too since you are too busy calling me names here to find out first. Enjoy the campaign chair bringing in a racist innuendo against Clinton before heading off to NC.

Posted by: Patty | May 18, 2008 7:38 PM

I have a big family and we sometimes fight like cats and dogs with each other-----unless somebody else goes after one of us. Then we all go after them. What the dems need is a big bad republican to be mean to us and we'll begin to remember who our family is.

Posted by: karela | May 18, 2008 7:37 PM

Patty,

Your argument fails, so you turn to insult? "She hasn't learned how to walk on water yet like you feel your candidate does."

Actually, one of the things I like about Obama is that he frequently says he is far from perfect.

I know it makes you feel better to think his supporters are mislead idiots, but please don't ask for more courtesy from your opponents than you are willing to extend to them.

Posted by: drossless | May 18, 2008 7:29 PM

Patty -- "Go google on Youtube and watch Obama's campaign chairman Jesse Jackson Jr"

Now YOU"RE going to start spitting lies ?

Sen. Tom Daschle is Barack Obama's campaign chairman.

You've been spending WAY to much time on the pro-Billary sites !

Second, we've been talking about the MEDIA abusing 'poor Princess Hillary', not private citizens.


Any OTHER con jobs you care to run by me to correct ?

Carl, for the record Jesse Jackson Jr. is National Co-chair of the Obama campaign. I have personally met him and he is as dirty a politician as you would ever come across. So much for a change you can believe in.

Posted by: Nancy50 | May 18, 2008 7:27 PM

BEWARE: This message board is being used for subterfuge. Don't be had. DEMOCRATS UNITE.

Posted by: DEM 08 | May 18, 2008 7:18 PM

Babs, I hate to break to you, Obama won't be given the nomination. He has won it, I understand your frustration but please don't make it seem as if he is being given the the nomination. I too was a Clinton supporter, but that won't prevent me from voting for Obama. The guy has won, and to write in Hillary's name is a waste of your vote. Don't be stupid, stupidity got us Bush. We need to unite (Obama/Clinton 08) and win this November.

Posted by: A concern Democrat | May 18, 2008 7:17 PM

All you Hillary supporters who see the truth about this arrogant, inexperienced, media-sheltered Barack Obama, please check out your state's individual rules before you say you will write in Hillary's name if Obama is given the nomination. All state rules can be found on writehillaryin.com, please spresd the word.

Posted by: Babs | May 18, 2008 7:06 PM

Here in Ohio, one of the swing states, the reconciliation has already begun. Obama and Hillary supporters have already started meeting and strategizing.

Time to run for the hills, McBush and the "100-year-Iraq-war, let them eat short term dividends" Republicans!

Posted by: DrRay from Ohio | May 18, 2008 7:05 PM

navyvet - "I am paying some mind because he doesn't care about veterans or the military now serving so you can have your freedom "


I hate to burst your little bubble there, genius....but not since the the Civil War has any American citizen's "Freedom" been 'threatened'.

But go ahead.

Rah Rah Rah....Yankee Doodle Dandy and all that.

Posted by: Mike | May 18, 2008 7:05 PM

We've had a hard fought primary and Obama came out the winner. It's time to put all that behind us and start treating each other with respect. We need to aim our fire at the republicans, not at a fellow Democrat. They (the republicans) have destroyed the very fabric of this country over the past 7 years. They the republicans can't be granted another four years to finish the job. We have alot more in common, and as angry as some of you might be, just think about the last four years. Bush and Mc Cain are the same, Bush have recked the economy, Mc Cain will turn us into a third world country. Bush started a war with iraq, Mc Cain will start his with Iran (remember bomb, bomb, bomb iran).Mc Cain has nothing to offer, but the same old wreckless Bush Policies,

Posted by: A concern Democrat | May 18, 2008 7:02 PM

Obama has never been conciliatory towards any campaign especially Hillar's campaign. This is misleading and an outright lie. Go read some more history on this campaign and you will see Obama has used everything crooked he learned in Chicago crooked politics. He is nothing more than a sham...he is a politician, not the Messiah. Nor has he been nice to her beginning last year with the punjab comment...or more recently the Annie Oakley comment.

Obama needs an atlas...first he says there are 57 states and 3 he didn't go to, they know Hillary better in Kentucky because Arkansas is closer to KY (Indiana and Illinois are much closer to KY, they both border it, and oh yes this really great one he is going to fix the Great Lakes that are located in Oregon.

Wake up Oregonians...Obama voted for the Bush-Cheney Energy Bill. Under this bill you Oregonians are getting a Liquid Natural Gas Pipeline that will use eminent domain on private farm lands to take land away from Oregonians to build this atrocity. It will also endanger protected estuaries. By the way the gas is going to CA not Oregon.

As for Obama's stance on the war...forgetaboutit! He disses veterans when they ask him questions in your own state. He stands by and says nothing one veterans die in a VA Medical Center in IL. And you worry about the war. When he made his speech in 2002 it wasn't even quoted in the Chicago papers. No one paid it any mind. I am paying some mind because he doesn't care about veterans or the military now serving so you can have your freedom.

Posted by: navyvet48 | May 18, 2008 6:58 PM

Time to Unite! Democrats against Obama!

For his politics as usual (one of the worst of which is disenfranchising voters by not allowing FL and MI to be counted, and trying to call the race early, so that last 5 states don't vote), calling the clintons racists (disgusting), for his sexist comments against hillary, for his personal attacks on her, for his corny-ass rhetoric, and because he's nothing but a 1/2 term power hungry kennedy puppet. Not having it. NOBAMA 08.

Posted by: Anne | May 18, 2008 6:54 PM

For those who continue to say this is all about race, you are absolutely right. If Obama were not black he would have been criticized and crucified like Hillary has been. The easiest way to make this point is think about this. IF BARAK OBAMA WERE RUNNING AGAINST COLIN POWELL,WOULD THERE BE ANY DOUBT AS TO WHO WOULD WIN? THERE WOULDN'T EVEN BE A CONTEST. OBAMA WOULD BE OUT!!!!!

Posted by: Nancy | May 18, 2008 6:48 PM

Of course we want to include Clinton's supporters in the grand new party we are going to be having. They are going to need to play fair and be truthful instead of doing the Karl Rove playbook thing that has cost Clinton so much trust and respect during the last couple of months of the campaign. She has lawyered herself into a bit of a corner and it will be Obama who invites her to come back and play nice. But whether she will do it remains to be seen. Her supporters have my heartfelt sympathy because I too dream of a woman president. She has to tell the truth and not get tunnel vision to such a degree that she offers to obliterate Iran. That's really not what we women ever say is going to be the woman's great contribution to Peace on Earth. She's just lost her bearings.

Posted by: Gaias Child | May 18, 2008 6:46 PM

For all of you who continue to be dillusional about how Obama is going to save the world, like underdog. Please do some reading. In chicago he won both of his positions by default. He did not notice that in his district there were 11 condemned buildings for low income residents. Even though they were built by his 17 year buddy Rezko and the $$$ was more or less given to Rezko by obam's government to build these buildings. He is the Democrat version of George Bush, just because he can deliver a good sentence (when he read it from a tele prompter) doesn't mean he can be president.

Posted by: Maria | May 18, 2008 6:44 PM

Those of you saying that as Dems you will not vote for Obama really have internal preferences and issues within you that would have prevented you from voting for any Black candidate regardless of that candidates qualities, abilities or qualifications. Anybody but him! Right? Face it. Obama came from no-where, with very little original support, to beat a person who hoped that we would overlook her true nature and imagine that they are really voting for her husband again. Initially she had all the advantages, money, and support. Yet she still managed to BLOW IT. Worst yet, is that she can blame no one else for her failure, for it was her own errors, lies, miscalculations, campaign mismanagement that exposed her as a bitter, slippery, calculating, opportunist whose credo is quite simple. "I'll say or do anything, to anyone to win."

That being said, there is still room for her in the party. It just isn't at the head.

Posted by: Bendere Dondat | May 18, 2008 6:43 PM

Obama seems the perfect antichrist except for his ugliness.
Consider his popularity among young voters, his ability to continuously lie without impunity, his connections to mob members and terrorist both real and wannabes. His strong and unscrupulous desire for power, at any cost, regardless what it does to others, (he became senator simply by disqualifying his opponents). His empty words and changing promises, his desire to be friends with those who wish to destroy us. His wife Michele has expressed her hatred for this country and has publicly announced that her husband is the messiah.
Perhaps you will need to explain to God why you voted for an antichrist, but I am not going to be on that dark on judgment day.

Posted by: Boris Starlar | May 18, 2008 6:43 PM

To Kalli

In answer to your question..As I'm sure you know community organizers are limited to the influence they have on the laws. Most of his influential work was after he ran and won by a landslide a seat in the US Senate. Some of the things Obama has done...

As an organizer working on Chicago's far South Side for a community group based in the churches of the region, an expanse of white, black and Latino blue-collar neighborhoods that were reeling from the steel-mill closings.

Obama and DCP (Developing Communities Project)protected community interests regarding landfills and helped win employment training services, playgrounds, after-school programs, school reforms and other public amenities.

A resident at Altgeld Gardens, a geographically isolated public housing project surrounded by waste sites, brought a notice about planned removal of asbestos from the project manager's office. Obama organized the community to find out if there was asbestos in their apartments. They persisted as officials lied and delayed, then took a bus--with far fewer people than Obama had anticipated--to challenge authorities downtown. Ultimately, the city was forced to test all the apartments and eventually begin cleaning them up.

In the Illinois State Senate, this meant working with both Democrats and Republicans to help working families get ahead by creating programs like the state Earned Income Tax Credit, which in three years provided over $100 million in tax cuts to families across the state. He also pushed through an expansion of early childhood education, and after a number of inmates on death row were found innocent, Senator Obama worked with law enforcement officials to require the videotaping of interrogations and confessions in all capital cases.

His first law was passed with Republican Tom Coburn, a measure to rebuild trust in government by allowing every American to go online and see how and where every dime of their tax dollars is spent. He has also been the lead voice in championing ethics reform that would root out Jack Abramoff-style corruption in Congress.

As a member of the Veterans' Affairs Committee, Senator Obama has fought to help Illinois veterans get the disability pay they were promised, while working to prepare the VA for the return of the thousands of veterans who will need care after Iraq and Afghanistan. Recognizing the terrorist threat posed by weapons of mass destruction, he traveled to Russia with Republican Dick Lugar to begin a new generation of non-proliferation efforts designed to find and secure deadly weapons around the world.

Posted by: tmra | May 18, 2008 6:42 PM

Rafael -- "Are you crazy Barack can't even begin to start comparing with Regan!"

Hate to break this to you, but the Republicans do not, and never had a lock on 'honesty'. Witness the fake "WMD" claims by the Bush administration.....or the "We do not Torture" nonsense.

I felt Ronald Reagan was an honest man, however misguided. I feel the same way about Barack Obama.

And to me, honesty and truthfulness will always earn my vote....Democrat OR Republican !

Posted by: Carl | May 18, 2008 6:36 PM

Elizabeth Lora, great! You've really done you're homework about Obama. You're smarter than the rest of us throughout the nation who support Obama and of course, you and only you know BEST! Thanks.

Now, Liz. Be serious. You're entitled to your opinion and your ONE vote. Cast it well for the candidate you support and live the rest of your life. Period. The end.

Posted by: Ernest | May 18, 2008 6:33 PM

Obama, fix your health care plan to include EVERYONE and I MIGHT think about joining you.

Until then, it's all the way with Clinton.

Posted by: splashy | May 18, 2008 6:32 PM

Obama is the nominee. It´s been a hard fought race and he deserves the win. His campaign strategy was ingenious and almost unprecedented. He literally came from out of nowhere to fight one of the most successful political machines in history to a standstill.

Now, however, he faces an even bigger battle. While the Republican brand is in bad shape and rightly so, John McCain is not your daddy´s Republican. He will be hard to beat.

As acrimonious as the primaries have been, it is time for the Democrats to unite. I don´t buy into the line that McCain would be another Bush and I don´t hink a lot of voters will. Yes, some of their policies are similar but McCain has shown an independent streak over his entire career and will attract votes from the middle. A lot of the Reagan Democrats who voted for Hillary will vote for him as will all the bigots.

I hope that Obama wins because I think he has the capacity to radically change America in a very positive way both in our view of ourselves and in the eyes of the world.

He won´t make it though unless the party coalesces behind his candiday. It´s time to bury the hatchet and get to work, Democrats

Posted by: david dial | May 18, 2008 6:31 PM

I am a Hillary supporter and I think that the statement "be nice to Hillary supporters" is very condesending and I am not buying it. I have done a lot of research on Obama and he is just another dirty ambitious politician. His campaign has used the race card whenever they could and now they are crying foul when white voters are not voting for Obama, they brought it on themselves. I will not vote for Obama and I will do whatever it takes to make sure he does not win in November. Hillary is the stronger candidate and all the democrats know it. If you look at the electoral map she beats McCain but Obama doesn't. It appears that the democrats are going to shoot themselves in the foot again for nominating a candidate that DOES NOT appeal to main stream Americans.

Posted by: Elizabeth Lora | May 18, 2008 6:25 PM

Patty -- "Go google on Youtube and watch Obama's campaign chairman Jesse Jackson Jr"

Now YOU"RE going to start spitting lies ?

Sen. Tom Daschle is Barack Obama's campaign chairman.

You've been spending WAY to much time on the pro-Billary sites !

Second, we've been talking about the MEDIA abusing 'poor Princess Hillary', not private citizens.


Any OTHER con jobs you care to run by me to correct ?

Posted by: Carl | May 18, 2008 6:25 PM

Let it be, Rafael. No reason to go low. There was a comparison being made by Carl. The way he sees it - not you or me -him. Let it be,friend. Let it be.

And frankly, I think Obama will be a great president and I am tickled to vote for him. Reports are there's a crowd of 50,000 people listening to him right now in Oregon. UNPRECEDENTED.

We as a nation should be thankful Obama and Clinton are even willing to make this kind of personal sacrifice.

RE:
I'm an independent.

I voted for Ronald Reagan because I felt he was open, up-front, and honest. I didn't care for many of his policies, but I felt I could count on him being straightforwards with me.

And now I shall vote for Obama....because I feel the same way about him. I DON'T like many of his policies. But I have a gut feeling that he will be as straightforwards with me as Ronald Reagan was.

Posted by: Carl | May 18, 2008 5:19 PM

Posted by: Mr. Clean | May 18, 2008 6:23 PM

THREE REASONS OBAMA CAN'T WIN IN NOV 2008:

George McGovern
Michael Dukakis
John Kerry

NO LEFT NUT CAN WIN IN THIS COUNTRY!!!

AMERICA WISE UP!

Posted by: Rafael VA | May 18, 2008 6:14 PM

Obama is arrogant and cocky. I won't vote for him. I hope Hillary runs as an Independent. I don't trust Obama on national security. Obama said McCain would be a better President than George Bush so he's not as bad as everyone says. To say McCain is another Bush is crazy. He's respected by Democrats, Republicans, and Independents. He served his country unlike Bush. He's also a moderate.

Posted by: goldenstate | May 18, 2008 6:12 PM

Mr. Clean - "I don't buy sore loser sentiment will prevail over common sense values come November."

CARL WROTE:

Well said.

All I want is a candidate that doesn't lie to me.

McSame doesn't pass that test.

Nor does Hillary.

I'm an independant.

I voted for Ronald Reagan because I felt he was open, up-front, and honest. I didn't care for many of his policies, but I felt I could count on him being straightforwards with me.

And now I shall vote for Obama....because I feel the same way about him. I DON'T like many of his policies. But I have a gut feeling that he will be as straightforwards with me as Ronald Reagan was.


Carl to put Ronald Regan in comparrisson with Barack Obama is absurd- atrosious! Are you crazy Barack can't even begin to start comparing with Regan! Stop smoking that crack that Rev. Wright gave you!

Rafael VA

Posted by: Rafael VA | May 18, 2008 6:12 PM

Army Spy Buster - learn to use paragraphs if you desire to be read.

Clinton Supporters - Stop whining-- Obama supporters did not abuse her, they simply did not vote for her. Get over it, she will. Hillary Clinton is a fighter but sometimes you learn more from losing a fight than winning it. I trust that this will be the case for Ms. Clinton.

Finally, as much as everyone slams John Kerry for losing 2004 and Al Gore for losing 2000, neither of these men were the loser. The country lost and now we are paying the price for those losses. We have lost ground on just about every front when compared to other nations and if McCain is elected we will continue to lose.

So all of the Hillary and Obama supporters need to get over themselves and decide if it is more important that our specific candidate wins or if the democrats wins. I think it is the latter because America can not afford too many more Bush terms.

Posted by: james - Los Angeles | May 18, 2008 6:08 PM

they're all the same, mccain, clinton, obama... they become who you want them to be, in order to gain your support

people generally shift to center for the general election, mccain's doing that now by talking about global warming, and katrina, he shifted right getting evangelical support during primaries.

obama going to shift to center soon too, watch him love guns and jesus and flags.

hilary already shifted center, way too early, because she thought she had won(in february).

They're all the same. no one knows who these people are, because they're different day to day

Posted by: Meghan | May 18, 2008 6:05 PM

There's a whole bunch of funny-thinking going on. Must be the Clinton koolaid. Whatever the meaning of is -is kinda stuff. Obama has won this thing fair and square and yawl are trying your best to mess up his chance at the white house.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 18, 2008 6:03 PM

People you are all in denial.
Hillary ran a very negative and cynical campaign and we all know that. Her evil ways backfired on her. Just like her husbands lustful ways backfired on him. Because of her selfishness she even ruined her chances of being VP because Obama can't trust her.
It's not Obamas fault.

The cream always and will continue to rise to the top. So whether you vote for McCain or not going to change what God has planned for America.

May the best man win.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 18, 2008 5:54 PM

Hillary IS THE ONE... and some people..especially Mr. Ted Kennedy ought to start showing her some fu*king respect because last I recall. It's the SAME old democrats that lost the last two elections whom are pushing Barack Obama's campaign. If you guys think for ONE second that were HAVE to jump on the Obama train just because he gets the nomination...you have something coming.

Latino

Posted by: Latino | May 18, 2008 5:47 PM

Noel:
I have one response to your whole diatribe in your own words---

HOW ABSURD!

Posted by: Patty | May 18, 2008 5:47 PM

There was none of the abuse of Hillary as there was for Mr. Muskie by the media....shattering your attempts to portray Hillary as 'abused by the media' "

Anything else ?

Posted by: Carl | May 18, 2008 5:28 PM

Go google on Youtube and watch Obama's campaign chairman Jesse Jackson Jr. saying he couldn't exactly swear Hillary's tears weren't crocodile tears for her own promotion but why didn't he see her crying for the black victims of Katrina?

Now how much lower and racial do you want your candidate to get before you admit he isn't perfect?
Or how about the video that shows he himself saying he wasn't experienced enough in 2004 to put his name forth on the national ticket in 08 - was he lieing then or is he lieing now?

Posted by: Patty | May 18, 2008 5:41 PM

This guy Obama is a weasel. He must be stopped.

Posted by: sas | May 18, 2008 5:40 PM

The Clintons and their surrogates are not racists. The problem is they are rank opportunist that would use racism, anti-semitism, sexism, xenophobia and anything else to get elected. Do they evoke the racist beliefs and behavior - YES. Anyone who doesn't see that is playing a game. When you have Clinton campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe claim that FOX is "Fair and balanced You beat them all" you know the white race-card game is being played big-time. But now, the American people are smarter than that. Smarter than pandering and new math. How in the heck do you buy that Obama is an elitist when he just finished paying off his college loans and grew up on food stamps?! That Michelle O is anti-American based on a statement. That Obama is somehow anti-white when he comes from a loving bi-racial background. It boggles the mind just how naive people pretend to be. As Mr. Clean wrote - HOW ABSURD!

Posted by: Noel | May 18, 2008 5:37 PM

Nancy - "He never spoke out about the misogynistic treatment that Hillary received in the press either."

Obama didn't 'speak out' because, if anything, she got PREFERENTIAL treatment by the media. As was pointed out earlier :

"And for all you people who cry that 'the media is skewed against Hillary', why was she not pilloried by the media as was Edmund Muskie when he lost control of his emotions in his 1972 presidential campaign ? Here's what the media had to say about HIS 'emotional breakdown' :

"Muskie made an emotional defense of his wife in a speech outside the newspaper's offices during a snowstorm. Though Muskie later stated that what had appeared to the press as tears were actually melted snowflakes, the press reported that Muskie broke down and cried, shattering the candidate's image as calm and reasoned"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Muskie

There was none of the abuse of Hillary as there was for Mr. Muskie by the media....shattering your attempts to portray Hillary as 'abused by the media' "

Anything else ?

Posted by: Carl | May 18, 2008 5:28 PM

I'd have alot more respect for Obama, if he just ONCE came out and said "hey, these people aren't racists, they've devoted their lives to civil rights and causes of the working class". But no, he stood by and let Bill and Hillary Clinton, Geraldine Ferraro, and a host of others get branded racists. He never spoke out about the misogynistic treatment that Hillary received in the press either. He has his little coalition set, he doesn't (think) he needs us. Good luck with that.

Posted by: Nancy50 | May 18, 2008 5:22 PM

So, Obama wants his supporters to be "Nice" to Clinton supporters? Well, we don't want to be treated "nice", we want to be treated with respect. After months of being treated with abuse, nice is just not going to cut it. Many of us will vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee, because Obama has waged a campaign that has been a sexist, racist rant. When someone has hit you enough times, you do not go back for more, no matter how much they 'make nice'. Too little too late, like an abuser showing up with flowers... Sorry, Obama, you are insincere and we know it! Go Hillary! Or, failing that, Go McCain!

Posted by: JP | May 18, 2008 5:20 PM

Mr. Clean - "I don't buy sore loser sentiment will prevail over common sense values come November."

Well said.

All I want is a candidate that doesn't lie to me.

McSame doesn't pass that test.

Nor does Hillary.

I'm an independant.

I voted for Ronald Reagan because I felt he was open, up-front, and honest. I didn't care for many of his policies, but I felt I could count on him being straightforwards with me.

And now I shall vote for Obama....because I feel the same way about him. I DON'T like many of his policies. But I have a gut feeling that he will be as straightforwards with me as Ronald Reagan was.

Posted by: Carl | May 18, 2008 5:19 PM

Carl:
"He accepted no contributions from oil and gas company political action committees, or from those who are paid to lobby Congress on behalf of oil and gas companies -

Unfortunately he forgets to metion that no one is allowed to do that under penaty of breaking the law since it is illegal to do so.
He makes it appear as if everyone else does it and he is the only one who doesn't. Well, I would call that false self-promoting.

Posted by: Patty | May 18, 2008 5:17 PM

I don't buy sore loser sentiment will prevail over common sense values come November. That a thinking person would choose anti-Clinton/Obama policies for McCain over Obama because Clinton didn't get the nomination. No, this isn't reality. People on this message board (and others like it) are being plenty mischievous. Don't fall for it. How absurd!

Obama '08

Posted by: Mr. Clean | May 18, 2008 5:13 PM

joflorida: His comment about PACs isn't a lie, though. He hasn't taken money from them. Obviously YOU want to twist the truth to make it look as though he has, but it's the same fruitless tactic Hillary tried using.

Luckily people are wise to it, and they see that if I give money to Barack Obama it doesn't mean the company I work for is endorsing him.

Please, if you are a democrat, it's time to get on board. The real opponent is John McCain.

Posted by: kent | May 18, 2008 5:10 PM

The irony for Clinton supporters who claim they will vote GOP this fall, is that if HRC doesn't help a fellow Dem win in November, she (and Bill) will be blamed for the loss and her Presidential aspirations go down the drain (2012? Forget it). That basically makes it harder for the next Dem female candidate down the road. Unity is the key folks.

Posted by: Kevin | May 18, 2008 5:08 PM

joflorida - "He takes it the same way that the others do, from the CEO's, spouses of Co. owners, and other family members. This is a BIG LIE. It has gotten him a lot of votes."

Yes he does....and he never claimed otherwise.

What he DOES state, and quite honestly, I might add....is :

"He accepted no contributions from oil and gas company political action committees, or from those who are paid to lobby Congress on behalf of oil and gas companies -- the money that is intended to purchase influence and access on behalf of corporate interests," Labolt said."

THOSE are his precise words....he said NO PAC MONIES !

BIG difference between personal & private campagn contributions and those from corporate PAC.

Or can't you tell ?

Posted by: Carl | May 18, 2008 5:08 PM

For people who said BO ran a brilliant campaign, might I remind you the GWBush ran a brilliant campaign. He won two elections, one stolen from Gore but brilliant campaign. A good campaigner is not a proof of a good leader, well Bush proves that every day. So people, you should look at what they have done in their lives. BO started as a community organizer, so he said. What exactly did he organize, and what are the results of those projects. Did he build low income housing, did he come up with policies that generate jobs for people in urban or rural areas, did he improve education for children that need it, did he organize clean up your neighborhood operation, did he increase home ownership among low and immigrant communities, did he write white papers on policies, did he have a policy that increase the number of small business owners in low income communities? All these questions, but no answers. Rev. Wright is the one that organized his community around his church, make live better in the community. Rev Wright might be racist but is a good community organizer and help the community and BO went to him to learn instead he stole the concept and ran with it. Can any of Obama supporters or Obama himself provide some of my questions, WHAT EXACTLY DID HE DO AS COMMUNITY ORGANIZER? REGISTERING VOTERS DOES NOT COUNT EVERYONE CAN DO IT,$0.50 per voter registered.

OBAMA PROVIDE SOME ANSWERS PLEASE, until then, I will not vote for OBAMA along with other thinking people. Another thing, to call Clinton supporters uneducated is sooo rude and condescending. Do I need a president that is rude, giving a finger, snubbing his opponents, and personal attack. Bad just bad!

Posted by: Kalli | May 18, 2008 5:00 PM

to Carl

Which Obama lie do you want?

It has been proven that his book about his father is filled with lies.
He says "I do not take money from lobbyists, PAC, Oil Co's. It is against the rules to take from the Co's. He takes it the same way that the others do, from the CEO's, spouses of Co. owners, and other family members. This is a BIG LIE. It has gotten him a lot of votes.

Told interviewer who ask him about quitting smoking. He said "I fell off the wagon a couple of times but it going OK now" Indicating that he has quit, but that is another lie.

The book one contains a whole fabrication which is fiction sold under false pretense.

When he talks about Michelle's background and his own, he lies about both. Neither were even close to poor.

there are so many of his lies and misrepresentations of his actions in Illinois that you would not hesitate to not vote for him if you knew only a few.

I think Ted Kennedy found out something that might do him in and had a stroke or seizure because of stress.

Posted by: joflorida | May 18, 2008 4:59 PM

drossless...

The primary problem is how disingenuous Obama has been about his money connections:

Hillary never claimed to her supporters she didn't take special interest money. Obama claims to be "Washinton Unusual" in this regard.

Sen. Obama accepted more money from oil company executives last month than any other candidate, while he ran an ad saying he didn't take money from oil companies. "Sen. Barack Obama continued accepting donations from oil company executives and employees last month even as he aired ads in which he stated he took no oil company money, his campaign finance reports show. Obama has taken at least $263,000 from oil company executives, family members and employees since entering the presidential race last year, including $46,000 last month. At least $140,000 has come in chunks of between $1,000 and $2,300, the maximum permitted under federal law." [LA Times, 4/24/08]

Posted by: kmb08 | May 18, 2008 4:58 PM

to drossless:

I will conceed that Hillary has one fault which does make her a worse candidate than Obama.
She hasn't learned how to walk on water yet like you feel your candidate does.
Enjoy your day!

Posted by: Patty | May 18, 2008 4:56 PM

kmb08 - "You only trust sources that have glowing things to say about Obama. Priceless!"

No, I trust, for the most part (fox news excepted) major news organizations.

Those being MSNBC, CBS, CNN, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, The Associated Press, etc etc.

Off the wall web sites with an agenda I do not.

" I can certainly see why you haven't caught Obama in a lie. "

You're right....cuz none of those major news organizations have not printed proof positive about any Obama 'lies'.

Yet they most certainly have about Princess Hillary's lies...errr...'misquotes'.

NEXT con job !

Posted by: Carl | May 18, 2008 4:56 PM

Carl,

So, let's see..you don't trust Factcheck.org. Okay, whatever.

You don't trust opensecrets.org. Okay, whatever.

You only trust sources that have glowing things to say about Obama. Priceless!

I can certainly see why you haven't caught Obama in a lie. ha

Posted by: kmb08 | May 18, 2008 4:48 PM

kmb08:

"Obama said he doesn't take money from oil co's, but he's taken more from oil co. execs than any other candidate."

First, there is a difference between contributions from corporations and individuals. The first is illegal, the second legal. Obama is perfectly accurate in stating that he has not taken contributions from oil companies. He has received contributions from executives from oil company executives as individuals, as I'm sure every candidate has. But these executives are limited to a total contribution of $2,500 each, like every other individual, and in aggregate amount to something less the a tenth of a percent of the contributions he has received in a single month from all individuals. Hardly a smoking gun here.

"How many lies do you want me to list for you??"

One, to start.

"Does it bother you that Obama has paid the superdelegates far more money to date than Hillary for their support? Check opensecrets.org"

So, Hillary also pays for their support then? It sounds like your complaint is that this upstart has more money than Hillary.

Posted by: drossless | May 18, 2008 4:48 PM

to drossless
"Those are three pretty trivial "lies." Couldn't you find something more substantial, given your obvious devotion to finding fault in Mr. Obama?

Oh, so the rules have changed as well to a Clinton lie is worse than an Obama lie? My mom taught me a lie is a lie. I guess only in your world we have bad Hilllary lies and trivial Obama lies don't count. And what about your "obvious devotion" to finding NO FAULT with your candidate?

Posted by: Patty | May 18, 2008 4:48 PM

Barack Obama is delusional. So is much of the press.

Obama, Obama's campaign, Obama's supporters, the DNC and much of the press have relentlessly attacked Clinton supporters for over a year now. To think most of us would EVER listen to or vote for any of you ever again is ridiculous.

"That means all of you have to be nice to Clinton supporters."

Oh. Thanks. Go buy or recruit yourself new voters. Oh, you are already doing that. Smart man.

Good luck.

We will remember in November.

Posted by: James | May 18, 2008 4:48 PM

To the poster who said Obama would gain your world respect again as the only one who could do it - please think again.
To this Canadian your adoration and wanting of change is the same mantra we heard 8 years ago as empty rhetoric from George Bush who wanted to bring change, and work in a bipartisan fashion because he didn't like the tone of Washington. Now after 8 years of what most Americans say has been disastrous, you are willing, in my opinion, to fall for the same empty rhetoric once again just coming from a more charismatic speaker. It seems the most qualified candidate to fix your messes is being overlooked because she just happens to have a name that has been around a while and everyone has enjoyed beating up for 8 years or more. So don't think that "the world" is just holding our collective breaths to fall in love with the US again because of Obama.
A lot of us are wondering how you can be naive enough to fall for the same trick twice.

Posted by: a canadian reader | May 18, 2008 4:43 PM

Patty,

Those are three pretty trivial "lies." Couldn't you find something more substantial, given your obvious devotion to finding fault in Mr. Obama?

"There's three - now who are you going to support?"

Well, can you suggest a candidate for whom three similar examples could not be found? I am quite certain I could provide three far more substantial whoppers for any other candidate left in the race.

Posted by: drossless | May 18, 2008 4:41 PM

kmb08 - "Obama said he doesn't take money from oil co's, but he's taken more from oil co. execs than any other candidate. How many lies do you want me to list for you?? Does it bother you that Obama has paid the superdelegates far more money to date than Hillary for their support?"

Yano, I can accuse Hillary of 'secretly' wearing mens underwear, but until I can provide proof from a reputable source (and certainly not those conservative or pro-hillary web sources, you would be entirely correct in discounting that accusation.

How about REPUTABLE sources....perhaps the New York Times, Or The Wall Street Journal, Newsday, or Newsweek ?

You're truly grasping by listing those 'sources', kmb.

Posted by: Carl | May 18, 2008 4:40 PM

Carl,

Obama said he doesn't take money from oil co's, but he's taken more from oil co. execs than any other candidate. How many lies do you want me to list for you?? Does it bother you that Obama has paid the superdelegates far more money to date than Hillary for their support? Check opensecrets.org

Maybe I should direct you to Factcheck.org. You'll find they refute many of Obama's claims.

You'll also find Hillary is given credit for her SChip claims. Hillary is corroborated for her Nafta reservation claims. Hillary is also given credit for her Ireland peace involvement by many military leaders. It's probably no wonder Hillary has many more military leaders backing her than Obama. They seem to have a lot more confidence in her abilities and knowledge about foreign affairs.

Posted by: kmb08 | May 18, 2008 4:35 PM

Patty -- "Obama lied about the timing of his birth trying to relate his conception to the marches when there was a 4 year difference. He lied about his father being brought over by JFK personally when in fact his father was brought over a year earlier. He lied about passing legislation that died in committee and was not passed. "

He did ?

How about posting links to prove your points.

I did.

Posted by: Carl | May 18, 2008 4:33 PM

Perhaps Obama has tried to be polite and conciliatory to others. I do not believe that you can say the same about his supporters. As I recall the DNC wanted to have a "fair" primary so it developed rules so everyone had a even chance at getting the nomination. Obama's supporters, media included, want to cut the campaign short because they are afraid that he is somehow going to be hurt by such a long primary. It appears that if either candidate is hurt be a long primary that candidate is not worthy of winning the general election if the intent it to deceive the American people. Obama is not the presumptive nominee until he has the required number of delegates. Thus far he does not.

Posted by: El Gato | May 18, 2008 4:32 PM

BREAKING NEWS:

OBAMA WILL NOT WIN IN NOVEMBER:
AP REPORTS BECAUSE DEMOCRATS WERE STUPID AND WENT WITH WHAT SEEMS POPULAR INSTEAD OF WHAT COULD HAVE WIN.

RAFAEL VA

Posted by: Rafael VA | May 18, 2008 4:32 PM

What a patronizing empty suit.

Too little too late.

Posted by: Independent now for McCain | May 18, 2008 4:32 PM

kmb08 -- "You all are assuming Obama is going to be tough enough to stand up to the Republicans in the US Congress! Where is there evidence that he is not a weakling?

In the Il. Senate, one colleague said Obama earned the reputation of "gutless" and "absent" because he was always "gone" when time to make the tough calls."


He won't HAVE to 'stand up to the republicans'...or has the fact that the democrats have a majority in both houses of Congress now, and will have an OVERWHELMING majority in both houses of congress when Barack takes office in January '09 escaped your notice ?

Any other little 'cons' you need me to dispel ?


Posted by: Carl | May 18, 2008 4:30 PM

In response to carl who said
I have yet to catch Barack Obama in a lie, and until I do, my opinion is that the rightful candidate has won the democratic nomination, and will rightfully win the Presidency of the United States vs. John McSame.....also a proven liar.

Posted by: carl | May 18, 2008 3:58 PM

Obama lied about the timing of his birth trying to relate his conception to the marches when there was a 4 year difference. He lied about his father being brought over by JFK personally when in fact his father was brought over a year earlier. He lied about passing legislation that died in committee and was not passed.
There's three - now who are you going to support?

Posted by: Patty | May 18, 2008 4:26 PM

I see all these posts about what is going to continue or what is going to happen if Democrats vote any other way than Obama.

You all are assuming Obama is going to be tough enough to stand up to the Republicans in the US Congress! Where is there evidence that he is not a weakling?

In the Il. Senate, one colleague said Obama earned the reputation of "gutless" and "absent" because he was always "gone" when time to make the tough calls.

In the US Senate, Sen. Ted Stevens said Obama "folded like a cheap suit" when time to take a stand.

What part of WEAK do you think will end the war in Iraq, strengthen labor unions, get semi-universal healthcare, stand up to the oil co.'s that have invested so heavily in Obama, stand up to the drug co.'s that have invested so heavily in him, etc. etc.......

You know, Deval Patrick was a prophetic speaker much like Obama. He inspired the masses, and had a huge following. He won the Gov. race in Mass., and you know what...he's seen as an "ineffective" Governor, but hey...he gives a "Great" speech!!!!

Posted by: kmb08 | May 18, 2008 4:21 PM

In response to:
"At the fundraiser, he told a boisterous crowd of about 300 supporters that a win in November would require a unified Democratic Party, adding: "That means all of you have to be nice to Clinton supporters."

Stuff it!

Posted by: Patty | May 18, 2008 4:20 PM

republican trolls, please comment on a issue oriented subject. How is your view of barrocks treatment of green froggies? I think its de..spicable!

Blaming Obama for rev wright, smacks of KKK style politics.


Of course, your still allowed to vote any racist way you want!

Posted by: pvogel88 | May 18, 2008 4:19 PM

kmb08- "There you go again..Hillary never cried to begin with. Her eyes appeared she might, but there was never one tear..nada"

No ? You just happened to be there ? I wasn't. But I'll take the USA Today's reporting of the tears spilled as factual. I don't believe USA Today is partisan :

"Clinton's tears in New Hampshire humanized her and rescued her from possible January oblivion"

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnist/raasch/2008-05-01-newpolitics_N.htm


"I agree your Obama doesn't show much emotion"

He's not 'My Obama"...he's just a candidate I have yet to catch in a lie.

Hillary isn't one of them.

Nor is John McSame.

Posted by: Carl | May 18, 2008 4:19 PM

Hey Carl, Flimflam said his mother was on foodstamps. Do the research.

Posted by: Jazzylady | May 18, 2008 4:17 PM

I hope Hillary refuses to be on the ticket with Bawwack.

He needs to lose alone!!!!!!!!!!!!

McCain 08
Hillary 2012

Posted by: Carol 17 | May 18, 2008 4:13 PM

Dear Barack Obama;
Please don't bother to pander to me because it won't work. I decided long ago that I would not be voting for you, and this decision remains. You have got to be one of the lamest politicians I have seen in all my life, and I've seen 'em come and go. My name for you is the Flimflam Man from Nowhere Bamboozle, because that is what you have managed to do to the American public. It has nothing to do with the color of your skin, the color that it is not, or the depth of your blackness. It does have to do with the lies you've told about your life, your choice of church/minister, that you claimed to be so involved in civil rights issues, but did not attend some of the biggest civil rights events of the past three years. If you can't go to Memphis why the hell should I vote for you? More than this I don't feel that you have any of the experience that it would take to run this country. You seem to be very impatient, lacking any sensitivity at all, and have no desire to learn. On the job training is not what I want to elect a president for. I want that person to be ready at day one, and not day 365, which seems to be you. And would you please stop quoting Ronnie Raygun? I know that it's a political ploy but that man hated blacks with a passion, and I am glad that he now rots in hell, probably asking black folks for a tip of water. Last but not least, you tried to paint yourself as this wonderfully clean pol who's hands are totally clean. Well boyfriend, get ready to either get them dirty or put your head in them because the rnc has book on you narrow butt. Consider it like the war vote. How would I feel if I voted for you and you turned out to be the mess I think you will? If Hillary is not the nominee, then nobody is, and nobody gets my vote. Sweetie.

Posted by: Jazzylady | May 18, 2008 4:09 PM

Oregon is a very liberal state...Obama should win easily.

Posted by: kmb08 | May 18, 2008 4:08 PM

Clinton supporters may have to resort to voting for McCain because we genuinely fear what will happen to this country if OB becomes president. He has absolutely no experience, and in his few years in government (where nothing was accomplished to improve the lives of Chicagoans or residents of IL) he has associated closely with some of the biggest crooks in Chicago (and that is saying a lot). He will be the ultimate old-style politician, ironically. At least McCain has actually crossed party lines to get things accomplished. OB says he can do this, BUT HE NEVER HAS. Not once.

Also, the US is demanding that the war end, and McCain is going to have to answer to that. He will know how to do this in an efficient way. We are afraid that OB will make things worse, and more lives will be lost, or our country will be in much greater danger (as will other countries).

Posted by: susan k. (NYC) | May 18, 2008 4:05 PM

Carl..

There you go again..Hillary never cried to begin with. Her eyes appeared she might, but there was never one tear..nada.

However, I've seen every male President well with tears at some point. It's really okay.

I agree your Obama doesn't show much emotion. As a woman in NH cried to him over losing her job, and possibly her home, Obama never changed expression, but continued to tell her how he was able to acquire his big house in Illinois. We sure don't want him to connect, now do we?!?!

Posted by: kmb08 | May 18, 2008 4:04 PM

YOU CAN BE NICE ALL YOU WANT BUT I WON'T VOTE FOR YOU IF YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE IN THE RACE IN NOV MY GRANDSON AGE 3 KNOWS MORE THE OBAMA 57 STATES? JUST ONE MORE THING TO SHOW HOW DUMB HE IS,

Posted by: janet in wv | May 18, 2008 4:04 PM

Hillary ran a poor and negative campaign. She lost all: the money, the reputation and the Dem nomination. Get real, it was not supposed to happen. The game was fixed for Hillary but she got distracted and lost. Get over it and move on. It is not going to be Hillary no matter what. She won't even be on the ticket, get use to it. It is not about the people but the Dem party.

Posted by: Hillary | May 18, 2008 4:02 PM

"Are you a member of an organized party?" --- "No, Sir, I am Democrat".

This joke is older than most of us, but it is still valid.

Posted by: Gerry | May 18, 2008 4:02 PM

Julie...

You don't have to believe the Clinton's know how to run the economy, you merely need to do your research to find they have already proven they know how. It's in the fact book! With Robert Rubin at the helm of the economic team, the Clinton's managed to get an economic plan passed, without a single Republican vote, and our economy got it's legs back...Times were good and peaceful!!

Posted by: kmb08 | May 18, 2008 4:01 PM

I knew right when Hillary turned on the waterworks during the New Hampshire primaries how cold and calculating a woman she really is, to resort to such a blatant ploy for sympathy.

And for all you people who cry that 'the media is skewed against Hillary', why was she not pilloried by the media as was Edmund Muskie when he lost control of his emotions in his 1972 presidential campaign ? Here's what the media had to say about HIS 'emotional breakdown' :

"Muskie made an emotional defense of his wife in a speech outside the newspaper's offices during a snowstorm. Though Muskie later stated that what had appeared to the press as tears were actually melted snowflakes, the press reported that Muskie broke down and cried, shattering the candidate's image as calm and reasoned"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Muskie

There was none of the abuse of Hillary as there was for Mr. Muskie by the media....shattering your attempts to portray Hillary as 'abused by the media'.

That was Lie No #1, here is lie number 2 :

Hillary's lies about her 'ducking for cover' during a Bosnia visit was also a blatant ploy by Hillary to garner sympathy, AND an attempt by her to portray herself as "experienced leader during wartime". Even AFTER she was told, time and time again, that it never happened, she continued to insist that it did. Only when CBS released video evidence of her lie did she recant her lie and say it was a 'mistake'.

I have yet to catch Barack Obama in a lie, and until I do, my opinion is that the rightful candidate has won the democratic nomination, and will rightfully win the Presidency of the United States vs. John McSame.....also a proven liar.

Posted by: carl | May 18, 2008 3:58 PM

Hillary supporters who would vote for McCain are ironically partaking in exactly the sort of personality cult they accuse Obama's supporters of.

Hillary herself is more important to them than the values she represents. They will show their support of her by voting against her values come November.

This seems like a poor tribute to her.

If Hillary herself supports Obama in the general election, will she then also be a traitor to true Democratic values? Will she be working for the destruction of our country? Will she be insulting women everywhere?

Posted by: drossless | May 18, 2008 3:58 PM

To say Obama has always been about taking the high road, is simply untrue. I agree this is what he says, but this is not what he does.

In his race for the Il Senate, Obama used procedural shenanigans to prohibit other candidates from being allowed to have their names on the ballot. Of course..he won.

Emil Jones placed Obama's name on bills as a co-sponsor although Obama did no work on these bills, all to pad his resume' for future ambitions. Some colleagues were not happy about this.

Obama almost came to blows with a Il. Senate colleague after Obama mistakenly voted the wrong way, and by doing so, eliminated funding for a child welfare office in the colleague's district.

Obama perpetuated the character assassinations against Hillary that the Rush L.'s started over 15 yrs. ago, just as he's now perpetuating the "age" thing against McCain. Obama's first line of defense was to decry any opponent's ad as "negative", "racist", "fearmongering", or "divisive". Just watch him...he's using the same tactics against McCain. Watch how he plays this game artfully.

Hillary simply exaggerated the Bosnia story, and yes, it was embarrassing, but most never knew the true story of this event. If she had wanted to lie from the beginning, she wouldn't have told the story accurately in her book. She never said she was being shot at anyway. The true story goes: She really was the first first lady to land in a war zone since E. Roosevelt..there was sniper fire in the surrounding hillsides....there really were helicopters patrolling the area for danger...she and Chelsea were placed in the armored cockpit...she and Chelsea were given flak jackets...and they really were briefed on possible sniper fire. Now, as she said in the last debate, she said something that she knew not to be the case, but in the final analysis...the wounded troops were thrilled to see her, and there was no need for her to exaggerate anyway since Obama had NO foreign policy experience at all !! She shouldn't have done this, I agree. Nobody, and I mean nobody, has been under the same microscope as Hillary for 16yrs., so I do try to keep it in perspective.

Obama certainly exaggerated as well..I'm a professor, no, you're a lecturer. My mother/father met on march in Selma..no, they did not. The Kennedy/father connection was debunked as well.

Obama put out all kinds of misleading ads touting he didn't take money from oil co.'s, when in fact, nobody does, it's been against the law for 100 yrs. However, Obama did take more money from oil co. execs than hrc, he did take more money from drug co.'s than hrc(J. Edwards pointed this out), but Obama's supporters think he always takes the high road.....well alright then.

Posted by: kmb08 | May 18, 2008 3:53 PM

Please read and re-read again if this comment makes it to the posted board. We are all so wrapped up in campaigning for our candidates, we forget that in the end a Democrat needs to be elected to the White House whoever that person maybe. We can not have 4 more years of our troops at war in Iraq. Gas prices will increase to nearly 10.00 per gallon, food prices will continue to soar, a college education want matter because there will be no jobs other than service level jobs. HC and BO both are carrying a lot of baggage. Some of you voters would rather continue paying the high cost of gas and leave our troops in Iraq for 13 more years before you would vote for a female or an African American for President of the USA.

Posted by: Elizabeth | May 18, 2008 3:52 PM

I didn't think Obama had a snowball's chance when the campaign first started, but look at where we are now. Impressive. When was the last time a woman ran for president?

Posted by: Bill | May 18, 2008 3:50 PM

If you want to keep taxes low while at the same time piling up debt for a war that has made our nation weaker and private corporations like Haliburton RICH from taxpayer money then vote for McCain. If you care about the future of the United States, if you want future generations to be able to compete in the emerging global economy, if you care about keeping our country truly safe, then vote for Obama.

Posted by: clearthought | May 18, 2008 3:48 PM

I really wonder if Hillary should trust those supporters who are asking her to continue to run a presidential campaign with over $20 millions in debt when it is certain that she won't be the nominee. By June 3, whenn all primaries will be over, Hillary will have the biggest presidential campaign debt ever recorded in the history. It sounds just like Romney is smarter than Hillary since he stopped his presidential bid after losing $17 millions of his own money. Who then believe that the Clintons know how to run the economy when they have issues taking care of their own finances?

Posted by: Julie | May 18, 2008 3:45 PM

TO a vote for McCain:

So you would rather vote for a someone who, because of a congreessional democratic majority, you think won't be able to do much in order for your candidate to run in 2012? How nonsensical is that? In 2012, it will be too late too:

End the war in Iraq

COnfront global warming

Ensure Roe v. Wade

Repeal the Patriot Act

Implement Universal Health Care and protect social security.

Its this kind of thinking that gave us 8 years of GWB, and now you want 4 more.

Unbelievable!

Posted by: Neve | May 18, 2008 3:40 PM

GO HILLARY!! GO!!!, I mean go away for goodness sake.

Posted by: justadad55+ | May 18, 2008 3:37 PM

What's that smell?

Oh, Hillary burnt her first-ever batch of cookies!

No problem; she'll have lots of time to practice now that she's toast! lol

http://klintons.com

Posted by: Bob | May 18, 2008 3:37 PM

Having a majority of delegates is NOT the same as having the number required to secure the nomination. WHY DOES THIS STORY NOT POINT THAT OUT? Of course, I know the answer -- it doesn't fit the script that Obama is going to win, that he's the annointed one.

Obama's remark smacks of condescension. Of course I'm not surprised. he's been condescending from the beginning.

Posted by: Beth - Illinois | May 18, 2008 3:35 PM

Look for those of you that bash Obama for not throeing his paster underthe bus.. Just look no further then the Catholic Church and how they stuck together in scandels they had.. My Father is a biggit and I still love him, we fight all the time, but he is still my Father.. Some people never grow out of a hate, they might learn to live with it, but never grow out of it. Ever generation has moved further from Race, and I for one think there are way more inportant issues then hating someone for his or her skin color.. Money, Gas, Drugs and this fing WAR in Iraq..

Posted by: Anonymous | May 18, 2008 3:35 PM

Reading some of these posts makes my blood run cold. I cannot believe the amount of ignorance exhibited by my fellow Americans. This is why Dubya has been in the White House for the past almost 8 years. For heaven's sake, folks, get a grip. If you were informed and knew the facts, the only person for whom a vote should be cast would be a Democrat. In my opinion, Barack Obama is the only candidate up to the task of elevating the U.S. to it's once lofty status in the world, a status that has been sorely destroyed by the current occupant of the White House. Let's unite and do the right thing, stand behind the Democratic nominee, Barack Obama. I fear the consequences of another Republican regime.

Posted by: denise | May 18, 2008 3:34 PM

Hillary supporters who would rather vote for McCain are free to do so. Please, don't forget to volunteer your sons and daughters for the next war for oil in Iran, be ready to bike to work since you would not afford the gas price. Forget about Roe Vs. Wade. Make sure that you never get sick because you wont be able to afford the insurance premium and the drug costs. Be prepare to learn a foreign language and request a passport since your job will be moving far away across the oceans. This is the heavy price you will pay for your bitterness toward Barack Obama, should you elect McCain agains your own fellow Dem nominee Barack Obama.

Posted by: Jason | May 18, 2008 3:34 PM

A vote for McCain is a vote to extend the war. Are democrats who say "If my candidate doesn't win, I'm voting for McCain" so selfish that they are willing to be responsible for the deaths of more of our young military? If so, shame on you.

Posted by: Sueb2 | May 18, 2008 3:33 PM

WELL TO THE PERSON THAT SAID ALL US CLINTON PEOPLE SHOULD GET OVER IT HE WON! WELL THE LADY IN THE PANT SUIT DIDN'T CONCEDE YET! AND AS FAR AS THE DNC, THEY DON'T HAVE TO SEND ME EMAIL ABOUT DONATIONS, I HAVE NO TIME FOR PEOPLE THAT "RIG OR PAY FOR VOTES" IT IS CLINTON ALL THE WAY, AND IF SHE AIN'T ON THE TICKET, WELL, HELLO MCCAIN!!!!!!!!! SEE MY HUSBAND & I WORKED FOR A CO THAT TOOK OUR JOBS TO MEXICO, THE GREEDY CEO WANTED "MORE MORE MORE" AND NOW THOSE POOR MEXICANS WILL WORK FOR ALMOST NOTHING WITH NO BENIFITS! I THINK THAT WHOM EVER GETS IN OFFICE NEEDS TO DOUBLE TAX THEM BIG CORPS AND MAKE THEM PAY THOSE POOR PEOPLE A DESENT WAGE!!! THEY KEEP THEIR HEADQUARTERS IN US TO BENEFIT FROM THE GOV GIVING THEM MONEY TO IMPROVE THEIR CO. WHILE THEY PAY DIRT WAGES TO POOR PWOPLE AND THIER COSTS ARE LOW IN THESE POOR COUNTRY'S!

Posted by: JABBER | May 18, 2008 3:31 PM

Just so you know, most Oregonians already voted, or are marking their ballots today for tomorrow's mail; all they do here on election day is count the votes people have been mailing in for weeks.

This means that the polling data are likely to be of more predictive value than in a state where last minute negative ads and campaign statements tend to move margins.

Perhaps for this reason, both candidates have been really, really nice to each other here. In a state with a small (low single digit) black population, there was no Hillary talk about "hard working white people", for example.

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Posted by: iou101 | May 18, 2008 3:30 PM

hilary supporters, slaghter him. she is better an has 148 of kerry's 251 votes in 2004.let's add seven more

Posted by: observer | May 18, 2008 3:29 PM

Actually, if Obama and his supporters really wanted the super d's to do their job, the superdelegates are suppose to vote for the candidate they feel has a better shot of winning the general. Herein lies the big mess we find ourselves in.

Hillary has run a better campaign and has been the better candidate the "second half" of the season. Hillary has won the swing states. Hillary is ahead in popular vote, even if you don't want to count them. After Puerto Rico, Hillary will most likely be ahead by 500,000 votes. Hillary is connecting more and more with the voters. This struggle has humbled her, and she is finding it easier to speak from her heart. I certainly admire her more now than I did before. She has shown such strength! My sister, a Republican, even complimented her...now, that's saying something!

I found it interesting when J. Edwards endorsed Obama, he actually complimented Hillary the most. Elizabeth voted for Hillary.

Problem is: The MSM had a lot invested in seeing Obama win, and now, they certainly don't want to be seen as "racist", or "wrong", so they spin this aura of "it's a done deal", and by doing so, plants this in the minds of voters, making it all but impossible for the super d's to actually vote their conscience.

I go back to my sister, the Republican, who thinks it will be easier to defeat Obama.

I simply find Obama very disingenuous. I can't pretend not to know what I have learned through research and observation. There are even reporters now admitting they were mesmerized by Obama, and realize they were unable to report objectively on his campaign. Lou Dobbs says he's never seen such media bias as he has seen against Hillary. Tucker Carlson stated last week that the press was clearly in Obama's corner. It just goes on and on...

Posted by: kmb08 | May 18, 2008 3:29 PM

Obama always has been about taking the high road. That's how he handles himself --with grace, dignity and respect.
He has done an excellent job executing his plan to secure this nomination and his fundraising abilities are the stuff dreams are made of.
I have no problem being nice to Hillary and her supporters. I do wonder how receptive the Clinton camp and its supporters are to accepting Obama as the nominee and his supporters. Clinton supporters are welcome to join us. We've extended that olive branch repeatedly.

Posted by: Wanakee Hill | May 18, 2008 3:28 PM

Hillary Clinton's supporters need to develop an appreciation for a hard and bittersweet lesson in practical politics: You cannot cash losers' tickets at the winners' window.

Posted by: Darryl Cox | May 18, 2008 3:27 PM

Quote:

"If Dems continue to win congressional races as they have this past month, then a Dem majority in Congress could render McCain pretty much a lame duck from day one. In that scenario, I'll vote for McCain and wait until 2012 to elect Hillary. Hopefully, by then the DNC will have realized their mistake in backing Obama and be anxious to correct it next time.

Posted by: A vote for McCain"

This is EXACTLY the type of uninformed opinion that is GOING TO RUIN US. Do you realize McCain, if elected, will have a chance to elect TWO Supreme Court justices? You realize the war isn't going to end?

You don't care that Roe vs Wade will be overturned? That we'll still be in a recession? That he can veto bills, and it then takes a 2/3 majority to bypass it, which is within the Republican's reach to block?

But yeah, you're right. Let's keep the war, the recession, overturn Roe vs Wade, and appoint two conservative justices with a term of LIFE.

That definitely won't make people hate Hillary even more for making Obama lose and ruin her chances of ever getting elected president.

Posted by: Nick Abels | May 18, 2008 3:26 PM

First of all, I am not into the "merger" of Hillary with Barack Hussein Obama. Second, if the DNC insists for the good of the party, who cares about the party. DNC betrayed her and she doesn't owe them.The primaries are not over yet and we are not giving up on her but, if and when she becomes the democratic VP nominee, I'll just vote for her and McCain. When, I say when not if, McCain wins she is there to balance the power with the Senate and House of Representatives. Hussein Obama and his campaign has done an irreparable damage to her, personally and you blind Obama followers, calling her all sorts of name. Do you believe in retribution? Whatever insults you heaped on her, all these name-callings will be done your mothers, sisters, daughters, and all female relatives will surely get them back. As they say "what goes around comes around." You called her a liar because of Bosnia but Hussein Obama is more of a liar re Rezco, his "rev. wright",and that other guy. How's that for integrity and honesty? You make fun of her voice, her hair, her pantsuit, her laugh, and the way she looks. Is Obama's wife more presentable or regal looking? You should think hard because no one among yourselves is perfect- in intelligence and beauty. Hillary is way above you all condescending people. They say Hussein Obama's supporters are "educated" but are you all? There are more uneducated supporters of Hillary who are educated than most of you.

Posted by: avepa | May 18, 2008 3:19 PM

Yeah, I really want to vote for a person who thinks there are 57 states, mebbe he was tired, yep excuses, that'll work. I'll vote for a man who has a racist pastor who the candidate thanked for his guidance, I'll even believe Obama didn't know this paranoid schizo paster blamed white America for causing AIDS to get rid of black people. I'll vote for that, yeppers. I'll vote a man who got his senate job by backstabbing a friend, that's REAL morals there buddy, (look that one up for details) Let's see, I want to vote for someone who has radical friends who had a party for him when he enetered the race for president, Yeah that's my choice. Cause I'm a stupid sheep. Obama, just cause I really want to make sure the good ol' US is really messed up even more than it is.
I even like the sexist mass media extolling his virtues, he's fresh, he's new, he's black, OH MY HE'S THE BLACK MESSIAH, THE CHOSEN ONE. Heck I'll even go with the plan to call anyone racist if they disagree with the plan to make Obama president. It's not racist to vote for a man just cause he is black, heck no...
You know what, I'll go one better, I'll call that person stupid white trailor trash who dares to have a mind and vote for anyone else!
Yeah, I'm a sheep, I'll vote for that, cause I have no mind. It doesn't matter anyway, It's the US, and the popular vote doesn't mean diddly so I might as well just go with the flow and NOT use my mind. Superdelegates, go ahead vote for Omaba, be afraid, be really really afraid, not of what this country will go to if an inexperienced, untried person with radical people surrounding him should get the presidency, be afraid of doing the right thing and voting for a real leader instead of being afraid of voting against someone because black people identify with him and OH MY, there might be a RIOT (think OJ), Yep, in America anything can happen, and lately it's just been all bad.
The wars (remember Iraq and Afghanistan? White and black soldiers have been getting killed there), prices, jobs, college being unaffordable, gas, you know, the stuff you REALLY want an inexperienced person to handle.
I'd hire THAT guy to head my company. Heck, it's just a country he would be the commander in chief of, how hard can THAT be? How messed up COULD he make it? (think Bush/Cheney)
Did I mention it doesn't matter anyway cause my vote doesn't count? SUPERDELEGATES, YOU GO (away...)

Posted by: springh20 | May 18, 2008 3:17 PM

Any Democrat who votes for McCain is just a fool, IMO, and doesn't belong in the Democratic Party at all. Vote for ideas, not just the candidate. Don't be fooled. Voting for McCain is a vote for the Republican Party and their right-wing agenda. It would be a vote against women, against a wise healthcare policy, against a better foreign policy, and against the economic interest of most people in this country.

I am a Clinton supporter. I voted for her and I still believe she is the best qualified person in the entire country to be president, but the writing is on the wall, and I'll work hard to get Obama elected. And to you Obama supporters: you have to quit rubbing it in and acting arrogant and realize that you NEED Clinton supporters to win in November.

Posted by: Left of Center | May 18, 2008 3:16 PM

OBAMA LOST OVER 300,000 VOTES BY SAYNG "BITTER PA" BIBLE TOTEN PEOPLE AND GUN LOVING REDNECKS,! WE PA PEOPLE FOR HILLARY, WON'T BE VOTING FOR OBAMA HE CAN TAKE THAT TO THE BANK ON THAT ONE! I FIND IT VERY UPSETING THAT HE DID NOT GIVE THE GAYS AND LESBIANS A HELLO EITHER WHEN HE WAS IN PA! ALSO, I DON'T LIKE HIS IMATATION IAM A PATRIOT "LAPEL PIN" MAYBE KENNEDY HAD HIS PROBLEMS WITH THE STRESS OF HIDING REV WRIGHT ! THEN THERE IS THE REZKO FILES. AND WHO BOUGHT OBAMAS HOUSE, WHO IS PAYING THE DELEGATES OFF TO GO TO OBAMA! WE WILL FIND REV WRIGHT YOU KNOW, UNLESS HE IS IN THE RIVER WITH THE SEN GIRL FRIEND; WE NEVER EVER HEARD IF HE PAID THE FAMILY FOR HER DEATH! WHATEVER, EVERONE HAS A CLOSET THEY "TRY" TO KEEP LOCKED AND I HOPE OBAMA SOON CONFESSES SOME OF HIS WRONG DOING'S. BUT THEN AGAIN, IF HILLARY IS NOT VP, HE WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT WILL HE?

Posted by: JABBER | May 18, 2008 3:14 PM

For the sake of argument I'll pretend that Senator Clinton and her surrogates, even when they felt provoked, never wandered off the high road and were consistently respectful of Senator Obama and his supporters. The voters preferred someone other than Senator Clinton.
I don't owe Hillary or her supporters an apology for preferring someone else.If I hurt your feelings along the way,get over it and better luck next time. I don't care about your whining,or your threats.It won't ruin my life if you support Sen. McCain and Sen. Obama loses. Although in my view, it will probably bring real suffering to people that had no part in what you seem to see as a grave injustice being done to your candidate. George Bush & John McCain refer to them as "collateral damage". You'll call them what, "abject lessons" to all who may slighted you? You go, you'll show us!

Posted by: kelly scott | May 18, 2008 3:11 PM

If Obama has to tell his "followers" that you have to be nice to Hillary supporters, you already have a problem.
Secondly, don't waste your time trying..If Hillary is not our nominee...my vote goes to McCain...at least we know what he stands for...
This guy Obama has so many faces and stories, I really don't think anyone knows who he really is...good luck....you will need it in the fall...

Posted by: KittyKat | May 18, 2008 3:11 PM

I understand many think Hillary's war vote was her albatross, but why wasn't Obama's contradictory statements about his Iraq war stance also an albatross? I realize the press never called him on this, but it is there.

Hillary voted for a war resolution in a time of "you're anti-American if you don't", "you're unpatriotic if you don't", and most voters also never read her Senate speech given to Bush before the vote. Hillary adamantly stated the US could not go it alone...she adamantly stated inspectors must be allowed to do their job...and, she adamantly stated war must be a last resort.

Obama gave an anti-war speech at an anti-war rally, not actually a "takes guts" kind of event. Fast forward to MTP....Obama early on stated he felt Bush was doing a good job handling the war. On a later show, Obama stated he didn't know how he would have voted if he had been in the Senate at the time. Later still..Obama praised Kerry's and Rockefellow's votes, both of which were "for" the resolution. I just don't see why Obama received so much adulation sans the complete critique.

Posted by: kmb08 | May 18, 2008 3:10 PM

It's funny seeing people getting upset... over nothing.

The candidates are the same. The same things will get accomplished. There is no difference.

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Posted by: go hillary | May 18, 2008 3:05 PM

I'm from michigan. I didn't vote in the democratic primary because the candidates I liked weren't on the ballot. Instead I almost voted in the republican primary. My vote and others like mine was stifled because of michigan's manipulations if the delegates get seated at the convention they will not be representing me or others like me.

I will vote for any democrat though if it is Hillary it will be in vain hope that real positive change will happen. I saw her gas tax idea as the same as the economic stimulus package and other Bush tax cuts: similar to the scene in Gladiator where they throw bread into the audience to appease the poor.

Posted by: Charlie | May 18, 2008 3:05 PM

Obama has won more delegates, plain and simple. Both candidates agreed to the rules at the outset and both candidates knew that Michigan and Florida would not be counted. Now that Hillary is losing she and her desperate supporters want those states seated - you better believe that if the outcome in those states would've been different you wouldn't see HC trying to change the rules midway through the game.

Obama's name wasn't even on the ticket in Michigan. I live in FL and I can tell you honestly that I didn't vote because I knew that my vote wouldn't count.

I say let HC have her way, seat the Florida and Michigan delegates - it doesn't matter, Obama still has more delegates and WILL get the nomination. Hillary supporters have a bad case of sour grapes.

For all the crying Dems did over the 2000 election and how it was undemocratic there sure are a lot of you out there now that hope the superdelegates step in and hand the nomination to Hillary - that's the only way she could possibly beat the math. Of course doing so ignores the the fact that Obama is leading in the popular vote and in the delegate count.

Posted by: WillH | May 18, 2008 3:03 PM

guys are nuts!!!? Obama ran a better campaign, just accept it. Hillary went from presumptive nominee, to front runner, to battling Hillary, to now what is looking like a potential loss. She is an amazing lady, but Obama was better organied, took nothing forgranted, and if how he ran his campaign against a better known competitor is anything to go by, he should make a great president.

Posted by: dahabu | May 18, 2008 3:02 PM

When I first saw Obama, I couldn't shake the impression that he just stepped out of a Young Republicans meeting.

Think... Why did Karl Rove quit the White House? Who might he be helping now? Certainly not McCain! But, some of Obama's speeches sound suspiciously -- and distinctly -- Rovian to me.

What better strategy to place the weakest Republican candidate since Bush in the White House than to have a HUGE, Rove-style wedge driven into the very heart of the Democratic party?

The 50-50 number says it all! Look how Karl Rove split America... right down the middle.

Now is the time for centrist, uniting politics, not the same, divisive, polarized bickering we have suffered since the inception of the Republican "Contract on America"!

Posted by: Pennsylvanian Not Clinging to Obama | May 18, 2008 3:02 PM

Nobody nobody declares "I am a racist." But some of these comments provide an up close glimpse of what a racist is really all about.

Excuses, excuses, excuses. . . Undue criticism. Novel interpretations of rules. False accusations. Mumbo jumbo up to wazoo!

Your girl lost. Our guy won.

Now, if you want to vote away your nose to spite your face that's up to you.

OBAMA '08

Posted by: Robbie | May 18, 2008 3:01 PM

Obama can't even control his own troops as they continue to be rude and to distort the facts. A leader speaks to and persuades his supporters and that person is not Obama (or did he use code to egg his supporters on to more Clinton-bashing).

I do not have any Party affiliation as I vote for the person that I think is best for the job. So don't call Clinton supporters who will not vote for Obama Republican operatives. You want your candidate to lose, just bring it on.

Posted by: alee21 | May 18, 2008 3:00 PM

Democrats unite! Americans unite! Change for America!

Posted by: j f n | May 18, 2008 3:00 PM

And an "Elitist" Says:

"That means all of you have to be nice to Clinton supporters."


-Yes Daddy, say his Children! :-D

Posted by: RAT-The | May 18, 2008 3:00 PM

crat13,

This isn't an end run... he's even let this play out to the point where if we DID count the botched FL and MI primaries - he would still win. Meanwhile, I can remember the short week or two when Clinton first floated MI and FL and we all thought it was a laughable prospect. Every voter was told the vote didn't count... then you're going to act like it was a real contest. The only reason people even voted in FL was that there were other measures on the same ballot. Many in MI voted in the republican primary just to have it count for something.

Still, counting THOSE primaries, he's almost to the point where he's the winner. Clinton, on the other hand, is a mathmatical impossibility away from even getting close.

I'd be saying the exact same thing if Obama was in Clinton's shoes. It's a frustrating thing, being in the losing side of a 54%/46% victory. We just hope you come back to the shared issues of the candidates and vote Democratic in the fall.

Posted by: Franklin | May 18, 2008 3:00 PM

If Dems continue to win congressional races as they have this past month, then a Dem majority in Congress could render McCain pretty much a lame duck from day one. In that scenario, I'll vote for McCain and wait until 2012 to elect Hillary. Hopefully, by then the DNC will have realized their mistake in backing Obama and be anxious to correct it next time.

Posted by: A vote for McCain | May 18, 2008 2:59 PM

For all the women out there who say they will vote for McCain out of spite if Obama wins a) that is childish b)2 words- Supreme Court. If you are reallly interested in women's rights you will think about the fact that McCain will have the opportunity to appoint 2 conservative justices - which will be enough to over turn Roe v Wade and a host of other women's rights. Even pro-life women should be concerned. Is your selfish pique worth that?

For all you Obama supporters (Puerto Rico..) who are quite nasty to your fellow democrats, that is also childish and self-serving. I have 2 words for you - John McCain.

Posted by: carrie | May 18, 2008 2:58 PM

Hillary's #1 problem was the war vote, IMO. End of story. Sure, Mark Penn ran a bad campaign, but Hillary would have been the proverbial freight train without that vote. Hillary was my gal, but I will enthusiastically support Obama. He's got much less experience and he's probably not as strong a candidate as Hillary in the general election, but he will make a good leader and a far better president than McCain. It's just incomprehensible to me that any real Democrat would vote for McCain.

Posted by: Left of Center | May 18, 2008 2:55 PM

That map is why Hillary wins and Obama loses. And guess what? The undecided super delegates know it. That is why Urkel has to change his undies every hour and declare himself the king of not having the delegates needed to secure the nomination.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Hillary Clinton will be the next President of the United States.

Posted by: go hillary | May 18, 2008 2:52 PM

Democrats unite in 08! Democrat for President!

Posted by: islandtal | May 18, 2008 2:50 PM

Do you people even remotely think bloggers like "Vote Obama" are actually Obama supporters?

They're either Hillary or McCain supporters who want to further this odd myth that Obama supporters are 'mean'. I'm sorry but I've seen just as many crazed 'muslim' 'wright' 'rezko' rants on these blogs as I have mean spirited anti-Clinton statements. I just hope that people can really look towards the issues we all want put forward in the fall, as opposed to strange perceptions of blog behavior or a sour grapes mentality.

I've been staunchly pro-Obama the entire way, but you would have seen a ballot in my name for Clinton in the fall if that was the way it went. The strongest argument for supporting the other (that they're so similar on the issues) unfortunately is what pushes this antagonistic position between supporters - because we have not much else to differentiate between them but say we 'don't like' the other candidate. (I've been guilty of this too.) Please just remember what you'd like done over the next four years this fal and avoid personality politics.

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Posted by: Puerto Rico | May 18, 2008 2:49 PM

You're no democrat if you're going to support McCain in the Fall. You're a big hypocrite if you vote McCain! I'll support whomever the candidate is - Obama or Clinton. That's what a true Democrat does - vote for a Democrat...Not jump ship if the candidate doesn't look, act or talk like me.

Posted by: islandtal | May 18, 2008 2:48 PM

And when Obomba loses BIG TIME I will be sooo delighted to say "I told you so".

He, (and his nastyish wife) has the appeal of tacky used car 'salespersons'.

I would not vote for Obomba if my life depended on it.

Posted by: Robb | May 18, 2008 2:47 PM

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Posted by: Randy | May 18, 2008 2:47 PM

I don't understand how Obama "was not nice" to Clinton. What did he do? He has been very forgiving, respectful and honest to her, completely opposite how she was to him. He even refused to stoop to her level with the negative campaigning. Why are Clinton supporters now mad?? He is winning fairly. I just don't get it.

Posted by: islandtal | May 18, 2008 2:46 PM

I can see the McCain people (Republicans) trying to spit the Democratic vote, but that isn't going to work. I was a HC supporter, but when and if BO wins I'll vote for him in a second. We have TWO Great candidates, and I'm proud of both of them. Please use common sense and vote Democrat in Nov.

Posted by: Ken | May 18, 2008 2:44 PM

I see we're not ashamed of our stupidity--we're proud of it!

No wonder we are where we are.

Posted by: Not Surprised | May 18, 2008 2:44 PM

vote obama,

I will never vote for Obama because he represents people like you!

Posted by: Racist bugger | May 18, 2008 2:41 PM

These posts are funny. Vote McCain, no, vote Hillary, no, vote Obama. I have a better idea. Vote for Me.

Posted by: Me | May 18, 2008 2:41 PM

Obama is a Genuine Fraud. IMO

Posted by: Donkey Brazziere | May 18, 2008 2:41 PM

RACISTS REPENT - get over it. Obama is a good guy why WOULDN'T you support him - unless it is that sexism and racism that eats your soul.

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Posted by: Kentucky | May 18, 2008 2:39 PM

all you idiots who vote mcain or clinton are pathetic morons.
obama is the best and will win the november vote. he has more people backing him up than anyone else.
anyone who doesn't vote for obama are either:
1)racist buggers who no one wants to know about,
2)or there're f****** b******* who dont have a clue what they are doing cause they are dead in there little tiny pathetic heads.
i am voting for obama and know a lot of other people who feel the same way.
idiotic clinton and mcain supporters are going down.
you here me
obama to the white house!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
go obama we are all behind yo 100%.

Posted by: vote obama | May 18, 2008 2:37 PM

Geez! Being nice to us after "Bros before Hos" t-shirts and "fingergate."

He really doesn't get it, does he?

Posted by: Mare | May 18, 2008 2:36 PM

With the exception of a very few, the comments below have only reinforced how naive and uninformed many Americans are. We're all very opinionated, but many of us lack sound reasoning to support our opinions.

If you are a democrat and plan to vote for McCain, you have obviously gone mad, or are very stupid.

The problem with this country is its voters. We're so caught up in the little differences that we can't see the big picture. We it comes time to make the most important choices for this country, we are usually uninformed.

I hope that our country can brighten up and see better, smarter days.

Posted by: Numb | May 18, 2008 2:36 PM

Don`t be surprised if Obama tries to convince white folks that he is one of them and that he was forced to run as a black candidate by Michelle so she could be proud of America!

Posted by: Colorblind | May 18, 2008 2:35 PM

gaypastor, I agree with you. If Hillary had divorced Bill (like all the real feminists I know would have at the first humiliation), he and his pals would not have been the ball and chain of her candidacy.

But she could not have it both ways and she tried. She painted herself as part and parcel of all of the aspects of his presidency people remember well.

Kind of like when Obama was trying to keep his pastor on in spite of his evident mendacity. No one bought the "he is like family argument" and no one bought the Hillary is running without Bill as her own person argument either. You can not keep what was good about Bill and ignore the obvious "issues" which would develop once he was back in the White House.

Many people blame Matk Penn for the Clintons' loss and they may be right. But Mark was and is Bill's friend and he never was one of Hillary's people. A house divided can not stand.

I guess because I am 52 and work in public sector health care, most of my friends and the people I work with support the Clintons. We argue amicably and I'll tell you what, no chance any of them would vote McCain...no chance.

So I wonder how many of these McCain people ever were Clinton supporters. Vote Nader, write her name in, but choosing McCain? I mean, do you like the direction we are going? Or do you just want to teach
the world the same lesson again about the American political mind?

Posted by: shrink2 | May 18, 2008 2:35 PM

I meant the first female VP (candidate to win). These two camps can pull this off.

Posted by: Roger | May 18, 2008 2:34 PM

I will not vote for Obama because of his treatment of Hillary. The stories they pushed behind the scenes about her and Bill, using the racist card on anyone that dares to disagree. He pretends to be about change and different politics but if you look closely he is a wolf in sheeps clothing. I can't vote a man like this into the Presidency.

Posted by: Linda | May 18, 2008 2:32 PM

No big surprise in some of these sour grapes posts. Reasonable HC supporters now support Obama. Rabid HC surrporters want Obama to lose in '08 so HC can run again in '12. There's no big mystery in any of this.

Posted by: tom | May 18, 2008 2:30 PM

I'm an Obama supporter, but if Hillary was to win the nomination, I would gladly vote for her. They are both intelligent and have good intentions from what I have seen so far. I would say the current administration is quite the opposite. John McCain finished in the bottom 1/3 of his class in the naval academy. He is not smart enough to run the country, just as Bush was not, and you can see where that got us. Vote Obama (or Hillary) in November.

Posted by: John | May 18, 2008 2:29 PM

If you are a Clinton supporter please don't walk away from a historical precedent. That is because I suspect Hillary will be the first female VP candidate. The two camps need each other. Plan on them running on the same ticket. They need each other to win and to do that they will bring the two camps together. Both of these individuals will make history.

Posted by: Roger | May 18, 2008 2:29 PM

I'm a bitter, old white guy. I'm bitter at what Bush has done to this great country in eight years. I'm also bitter that Clinton supporters appear to be as delusional as she is. Did they all fail math? I'm voting for Sen. Obama, who has exhibited intelligence and honesty.

Posted by: ericmiami | May 18, 2008 2:26 PM

It is evident that those who choose not to vote for Mr. Obama and will vote for Mr. McCain had no intention of voting democrat in November. These people were not for the party they were for the person. Thank God that most of Mr. Obama suppoters have enough sense to vote the party. However for those of you who wish not to vote for him, good ridense to bad rubbish.

Posted by: We The People | May 18, 2008 2:26 PM

It's amazing how many Democrats have vowed to vote for McCain if their choice doesn't win the Democratic nomination!

There are at least two Democratic parties: one supported by youth and blacks, the other cronies and feminists!

http://klintons.com

Posted by: Bob | May 18, 2008 2:25 PM

"At the fundraiser, he told a boisterous crowd of about 300 supporters that a win in November would require a unified Democratic Party, adding: 'That means all of you have to be nice to Clinton supporters.'"

A "unified Democratic Party" is a pipedream if Obama swipes the Democratic nomination with his tactics of an end run around the nomination process and acting like the inevitable, presumptive nominee.
"Nice to Clinton supporters" won't cut it.

Obama is slick and sly; the ends justify the means. He is ruthless and driven by raw ambition. He is delusional, apparently thinking he is the messiah who can impose "unity" with his "powers" after swiping the Democratic nomination.

A "majority" counts for nothing; this is a tactic to give the pro-Obama biased media fodder for their media spin against Sen. Clinton. The Democratic nominaton process is still in progress with several primaries remaining to vote their presidential preference; FL and MI are still to be resolved. When concluded, the superdelegates must select the best qualified presidential nominee to win the general election using their indepedent judgement with no record to "delegate math." Sen. Clinton is the best qualified candidate to defeat McCain, and she will be the Democratic nominee.

To preclude Sen. Clinton from getting the nomination, Obama is engaged in the end run tactic of a conspiracy with his supporting superdelegates in orchestrating daily superdelegate endorsements, announced with fabricated fluff. His end run then proclaims him nominee before the end of the primaries and the resolution of the FL and MI votes .

As part of his end-run tactic, he is acting the role of inevitable, presumptive nominee by campaigning in several general election states as the general election candidate and launching his political attack on Bush. He next plans have a rally in Iowa to entrench his end-run tactic.

In his ruthless drive to swipe the Democratic nomination from Sen. Clinton, Obama has corrupted and taken the Democratic nomination process to the next level of thwarting the selection of the best qualified Democratic presidential nominee.

Posted by: crat3 | May 18, 2008 2:25 PM

No shock that the comments with the flawed logic, poor arguments and blind support all have either McCain or Clinton plugs in them. Zzzzz.

Posted by: Oliver | May 18, 2008 2:24 PM

I don't know why obama supporters bother arguing in these comments sections. You're arguing with 1) republicans trying to game the election, or 2) pseudo-democrats who are so dellusional they either a)actually believe hillary is in the lead or has a chance or b) won't support obama no matter what you say because they are blinded by racism, sexism, or ignorance.

No point being nice to any of them. We'll all vote, McBush will lose badly and hillary will be hosting a talk show on lifetime once she blows the clinton fortune tilting at windmills and losing all chances of a book deal.

Posted by: duh | May 18, 2008 2:22 PM

This Hillary supporter will vote Mcain since the DnC is intent on taking this from Hillary and since they choose to disenfranchice over 2 million voters,since Obama chose to ignore 90,000 people who ignorantly vote for him in West Virginia just because he lost badly mind you,since Obama is intent on doing the same to Kentuky folks,we will ignore him and the DnC In November we WILL vote Mcain,

Posted by: vote hillary | May 18, 2008 2:18 PM

Day late dollar short Obama. Shoulda said that to your mob before they boo'd sheila jackson lee, or the multiple times they boo'd senator clinton. The REASON many of them have been so obnoxious is because of your calculated *personal* attacks on senator Clinton. We are not falling for your new paid bloggers posting "we're all democrats" all over the Internet. We're not buying your day late dollar short BS, Sweetie. Voting against you this November. What an arrogant a-------.

Posted by: ANYC | May 18, 2008 2:18 PM

At the beginning of the campaign I was thrilled with the depth of the Democratic field. I could have happily voted for any of the top 4-5 candidates. That has now changed. After reading comments on Post blogs and others for months, I am finding it harder and harder to convince myself that I want to put myself in the Obama camp with such obnoxious and sanctimonious posters. I may just limit myself to the Congressional elections come November. What a waste.

Posted by: pac | May 18, 2008 2:18 PM

If Obama is the Nominee, Kiss OHIO goodbye. Hillary supporters in ohio are NOT going to vote for Obama PERIOD.

Posted by: sam | May 18, 2008 2:17 PM

I will not ever vote for Obama. It's Hillary or McCain. I'll probably write in Hillary, but I'm appalled by everything Obama has done---he has misrepresented his ideals, his supporters have viciously humiliated my preferred candidate, and have dared to denigrate her lifetime of work that allowed their candidate to run. He not only allowed it, he encouraged it. He's a fool, and I don't want another fool leading our country.

Posted by: brian | May 18, 2008 2:16 PM

How funny that Obama has finally asked his supporters to be nice to Clinton supporters. He should have done it months ago! I know many Clinton supporters who will never vote for Obama because of the way he treated Hillary Clinton. The race is not over yet. Go Hillary!

Posted by: Ellen | May 18, 2008 2:16 PM

You can't go around having your SURROGATES disrespect us, calling us racists, and then try to play nice.

I won't vote Repub, but I sure won't vote for another man, and never never for BO.

Posted by: JSF | May 18, 2008 2:15 PM

This shocked me please everyone look it up...i wouldnt have believed it hadn't i read it for myself...remeber Obama seemingly innocent misshap about 57 states here is what he was talking about shocking really...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organization_of_the_Islamic_Conference (57 islamic states) Please it's not something anyone made up it's fact

Posted by: votehillary | May 18, 2008 2:13 PM

We will not vote for OBAMA because he is just NOT QUALIFIED.

Hillary is the class of the field.

If we force the DNC and Howard Dean to seat the Michigan and Florida delegations, Hillary is the winner.

Michigan can vote on Aug 5th when they are going to vote for statewide measures anyway. And Florida can be seated as is.

Democrats know, as does Obama, that Michigan and Florida will not support him if he doesn't remove his selfish obstruction of Michigan and Florida revote/seating now.

He has been hoping to "lock up" the nomination and THEN seat them but voters will not allow that.

Kentucky will be a blowout and Oregon is a wash.

Please write your congressmen at congress.org and Howard Dean at http://www.democrats.org/page/petition/chairman.

Explain that you will get retribution should Michigan and Florida not be seated AS THEY VOTED. Or they should be allowed to revote. Any 50/50 nonsense is OUT.

Posted by: Truth Seeker | May 18, 2008 2:11 PM

The dumb-o-crats on this page are not even disciplined (or smart) enough to listen to Obama and reach out to Clinton Democrats. This is NOT the party that should be in power.

Vote McCain

Posted by: Scott D | May 18, 2008 2:10 PM

First off, Hillary is NOT the "Ron Paul" of the Democrats. She is not that far behind! The pressure for her to end the race is suspect at best! Second, the sexism that has pervaded the mainstream media's coverage of Hillary - and ignored by the DNC - is nothing short of astonishing! I'm saddened to be part of a country and party that 1) is unaware of the signs of sexism and/or 2) doesn't care. For example, I've spent months watching Hillary be chastised in the name of "she's a Clinton." I watched as people I thought were educated and progressive adults go along with these statements, utterly unaware how their decision to tie her identity with her husband (i.e. highlighted by those who call her Billary) is, itself, an incredibly sexist statement. This is NOT the 1800s and a woman is NOT defined by her husband. This is one of MANY, many sexist remarks that have emerged during this race that was SUPPOSE to be a historical time for TWO reasons. We're still behind you Hillary & we know "the more experienced choice who is more capable of making change" when we see it. Let our own party force us out. Its far from the first time women (or gays or other pro-female communities) have had to walk our own path. God helps us all.

Posted by: gaypastor | May 18, 2008 2:08 PM

Do the words, "Too Late" mean anything to Barack Obama? How stupid does he think we are?

No we aren't Republicans. We are sick and tired disencranchised Democrats who no longer wish to know Barack Obama. See you in November.

Posted by: Molly | May 18, 2008 2:08 PM

Susan:

"Republican Operatives" did not have to do anything to place a wedge in the Democratic Party....the Dems did a good enough job of it themselves.

Voting Osama bin Ladin is a vote for terrorists and appeasers.

Vote For McCain.

Posted by: Scott D | May 18, 2008 2:06 PM

"I'm planning to vote Obama in Nov."

.......NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Susan, wake up, it is called the Bradley Effect. We are just telling you what you want to hear....it's what happens in the voting booth that matters.

Posted by: Scott | May 18, 2008 2:04 PM

No Country for McBush! McSame is a third-term Bush.

Vote Obama in November!

Posted by: Susan | May 18, 2008 1:59 PM

A good rule for Obama supporters on these Comment pages going forward. Be nice to Clinton supporters. Voters across the board (independents, Democrats, Republicans) like good sports and they don't like bullying winners. You know which one to be.

You know how strongly you feel about Obama becoming president? Reality check: the Clinton supporters literally felt exactly that way about Hillary Clinton. How would you feel now in their shoes?

Most of her supporters were almost certainly "for" her even more than they were "against" him. As I phonebanked for Obama to West Virginia, I found plenty of loyal Clinton fans who were planning to vote for Obama in the fall if he is the nominee. I know that's anecdotal, but there are certainly a lot of Clinton voters like that out there just waiting to make sure they are welcomed and respected as we come together after the primaries. You can make it happen now with the ones you know in your own life.

Reach out, dig deep, talk up Obama's positions and plans, be about lifting the conversation up and not tearing people down. Let's see how big we can win this thing in November. We are on the same team now.

Posted by: Fairfax Voter | May 18, 2008 1:59 PM

Nonsense, McCain's candidacy is a joke.
Republicans are not behind him, his party is a mess. The only people sure to vote for him are the people who would never vote for Obama under any circumstances.

This vote can not be courted, nor worked for. But no matter, defeating the Clintons was the hard work

Defeating McSame will not be easy, but unlike the battle with the Clintons, the "dirt" is out there, the race baiting has already occurred and this time we start in the lead as opposed to far behind nation-wide, as we were heading into Iowa. Have some confidence people.

Obama is not John Kerry, he is very smart and very tough. McCain is damaged in so many ways already. Every time he opens his mouth he makes Bush look articulate. It is 2008 and the entire world understands the Republican agenda.


Posted by: shrink2 | May 18, 2008 1:58 PM

To Clinton Supporters:

DON'T "WRITE IN" in NOV!!

VOTE MCCAIN.

Hillary will want it that way....and we can vote Hillary in 2012. Plus McCain is a moderate and bi-partisan and would make an excellent president.

Don't waste your vote!!

Posted by: Scott D | May 18, 2008 1:58 PM

"McSame" is like some lame attack that sounds like something school yard babies came up with...is that the best the MSM and Soros-clones can come up with?

Everyone knows that McCain is NOT Bush. Kerry wanted McCain as his VEEP in 2004 and has always been popular with Democrats.

The grownup wing of the Democratic Party are abandoning the Party in droves because of the ugliness the Democratic party has become.

Posted by: Scott D | May 18, 2008 1:54 PM

Obama is trying to hoodwink (one of his favorite words) voters by talking to them as if this race is over... he's very good at this perceptions game and he's had the corporate press playing by his rules since January. In actuality, Hillary Clinton has garnered more of the popular vote and has won states with more electoral college clout. She has a considerably better chance of winning against John McCain. No candidate with her standing in a democratic nomination race has ever been exposed to such outrageous attempts to be forced out before the convention. Her popularity has been growing over past months while more doubts are being raised about Obama's substance and electability. Since the press won't help you much on this front, you can find out more about what Hillary Clinton will do for Oregon and Kentucky by going to HillaryClinton.com.
Thanks for your consideration!

Posted by: Mary Lou | May 18, 2008 1:53 PM

Hillary supporters will not just get on board in November. The media is hiding the backlash, they don't want the word to get out that women are organizing against this primary. What a joke that Democrats slogan is "50 state strategy" when they are disenfranchising 2 of the biggest states!

WRITE IN YOUR VOTE FOR HILLARY IN NOVEMBER!!!

Posted by: ragindemo | May 18, 2008 1:50 PM

nice, shrink2... let's tell clinton supporters to vote for mccain. we can win without them! i think you better go have a little talk with shrink1, since you have obviously lost your mind! not only do you have to be nice to clinton supporters, but you have to work for their vote, since they haven't bought into the "change" and "hope" message. obama cannot win without them.

Posted by: jeff d. | May 18, 2008 1:47 PM

Yep, that's just what this country needs, MORE REPUBLICANS .

Posted by: 1ahead | May 18, 2008 1:46 PM

Dem choose Obama! USA will choose McCain! Simple...

No liberal will ever be President.

Three reasons why:
George McGovern
Michael Dukakis
John Kerry

Wise up America!

Posted by: Rafael VA | May 18, 2008 1:45 PM

Too late for nice, we're already on board with McCain.

Posted by: Scott D | May 18, 2008 1:43 PM

he may or may not be 'over the top' if he continues to exclude florida and michigan. he will definitely not be there if the dnc decides that there are 50 states in this union, not 48 or 57. the number is 2210, and until he gets that, at the convention, he is no one's nominee.

Posted by: Jillie | May 18, 2008 1:43 PM

For those of you who think that people asserting they will, "...vote for McCain if Hillary is not the nominee," think again. These are Republican operatives trying to drive a wedge in the Democratic party. In doing so, they expect dis-affected Clinton supporters to vote for a Repuke! Don't fall for this tom-foolery! Democrats unite in 2008 and lets take back our country!

Posted by: Susan | May 18, 2008 1:43 PM

Obama can be nice all he wants to, but this Clinton supporter isn't going to be taken in by this. Hillary was screwed by Obama, and the Democrats, now it's time to push back. To me, my vote goes to John Mc.Cain. I hate Mc.Cain, but I am so mad with the Democrats right now, my vote is easy to make.

Posted by: Gary | May 18, 2008 1:37 PM

Just can't vote for Obama.

He showed us no tears after Katrina.

Posted by: Mary | May 18, 2008 1:36 PM

Clinton supporters who threatened to vote for McSame are not going to be our supporters, whether or not we are nice to them.

McSame is a dangerous fool and will be driven to carry on with the Bush Cheney agenda, no matter how he postures and panders to "the center", or Republicans won't come out to vote.

Clinton supporters who'd rather see McSame than Obama are our political enemies. They need to leave the D party and get far right, that is where they belong; they will welcome you over there. And then you can lose twice in one year! Say Bu-bye to the McSame loving band of Clinton supporters.

Posted by: shrink2 | May 18, 2008 1:33 PM

Obama has always tried to be polite and conciliatory to other camps.

Posted by: majorteddy | May 18, 2008 1:18 PM

Its time to unite and focus on making sure the Republicans don't continue to destroy this great nation!

Posted by: Franky | May 18, 2008 1:17 PM

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