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Obama's Uncle and the Liberation of Auschwitz

Updated 6:12 p.m.
By Jonathan Weisman
In the annals of the 2008 campaign, Barack Obama's Auschwitz moment may yet become the stuff of legend.

For months, the Republican National Committee, grumbling John McCain staffers and an array of conservative bloggers have tried to label Obama as a serial exaggerator and an heir to Al Gore, who Republicans successfully tarred in 2000 as someone who claimed to have discovered Love Canal and invented the Internet.

It just wasn't sticking.

Now, they think they've caught him red handed.

Obama didn't mince words in the story of his uncle yesterday in New Mexico. As he spoke of the need to provide combat veterans better health care, especially better mental health care, Obama let loose a three-Pinocchio doozy:

"I had a uncle who was one of the, who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps," Obama said, slowly and methodically. "And the story in my family is that when he came home, he just went into the attic, and he didn't leave the house for six months. Alright? Now, obviously something had affected him deeply, but at the time, there just weren't the kinds of facilities to help somebody work through that kind of pain."

That may be a fact, the RNC noted gleefully -- but only if Obama's uncle served in the Red Army of Joseph Stalin, which liberated Auschwitz Jan. 27, 1945.

The Obama campaign says the mistake was not as horrific as it might seem. His uncle was there at the liberation of Buchenwald. Obama just confused the names of the concentration camps.

"Senator Obama's family is proud of the service of his grandfather and uncles in World War II - especially the fact that his great uncle was a part of liberating one of the concentration camps at Buchenwald. Yesterday he mistakenly referred to Auschwitz instead of Buchenwald in telling of his personal experience of a soldier in his family who served heroically," said Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton this afternoon in a statement, which also clarified that the great-uncle "Served in the 89th Infantry Division that Liberated Ohrdruf, a Subcamp of Buchenwald, the First Camp Liberated by Americans, on April 4, 1945."

But for conservative bloggers, Obama has finally gone beyond the pale. "Sickening," huffs Red State. "Barack Obama must be the most gaffe-prone politician in memory," reports PowerLine. "The Young Gaffer Sees Dead People," chortles Hot Air.

Obama campaign aides were indignant that Republicans had pounced on what they called an innocent mistake over such a grave subject. Tommy Vietor, an Obama spokesman, decried "using the Holocaust and concentration camps as a political football."

And the RNC did appear to temper its condemnation. Initially, RNC spokesman Alex Conant had blasted "Barack Obama's dubious claim" as "inconsistent with world history."

"Obama's frequent exaggerations and outright distortions raise questions about his judgment and his readiness to lead as commander in chief," Conant said this afternoon.

By this evening, the tone had changed.

"At times it appears that Barack Obama inaccurately recalls his own history and American history, so it's important that we point to the facts. In this case, we're happy to see that he took the time to set the record straight," Conant said.

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what if this delusional behavior is not lying but mental illness, we do know that several social diseases cause a deterioration of the mind. what if these liberals are going to put in the White house a man who has no grip on reality and his finger on the bomb ? Would this truly then be the arrival of the anti christ ?

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"In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

Posted by: The real Obama quote | May 29, 2008 2:23 PM

Obama's uncle is a true hero. God bless the American soldiers and all Allied soldiers who helped defeat Hitler. That's the important thing about this story. Not that a politician made an honest mistake by mistaking one concentration camp for another. Shame on the RNC for trying to use this to their political advantage.

Posted by: N. Otter | May 29, 2008 12:28 PM

Obama's uncle is a true hero. God bless the American soldiers and all Allied soldiers who helped defeat Hitler. That's the important thing about this story. Not that a politician made an honest mistake by mistaking one concentration camp for another. Shame on the RNC for trying to use this to their political advantage.

Posted by: N. Otter | May 29, 2008 12:28 PM

Obviously a man that does not remember facts such as tramatic family history of liberating death camps, does not understand geography, ie. stating that "Kentucky is closer to Arkansas than Illinois" when Kentucky BORDERS Illinois, and someone who thinks we have "58 states". Obama should return to school before running for President, or as a nation we owe Dan Quale an apology!!! Can Obama spell potato?

Posted by: Tom | May 29, 2008 12:09 PM

the real point is Auschwitz never was liberated. My mother who survived the camp spent the rest of her life fighting this lie.
No liberation. Auschwitz was abandonned by the nazis fleeing the Red Army advance.
The Red Army regiment of General Petrenko had no idea of what they were going to find. He wrote a book about it.
Auschwitz was no secret though. It just wasn't important enough to be liberated. Period. That is the truth.

Posted by: son of a survivor | May 29, 2008 11:26 AM

He is already the 44th President of the United States of America. While Bush is remembered as a war monger, he is considered by historians as the best Commander in Chief of all times. America would have been in total despair and decline if he had not been elected. Peace, progress, liberty and the search of happiness have been reinstated thanks to him. The world is grateful to the American people. The man of the new frontiers has opened the gate of a new awareness: the global conscience. Our kids do no longer say: "I am from Israel or Palestine". They say: "I am from Earth".
Open your heart to foresee the future!

Posted by: Abel | May 29, 2008 4:01 AM

The media bashes Hillary, calling her a monster and a witch, while giving a pass to Obama, who does not seem to know his Auschwitz from a hole in the ground.

Posted by: thecandypoem | May 29, 2008 3:12 AM

The media bashes Hillary, calling her a monster and a witch, while giving a pass to Obama, who does not seem to know his Auschwitz from a hole in the ground.

Posted by: thecandypoem | May 29, 2008 3:12 AM

Are people really getting worked up at the difference between these two awful concentration camps? Do you suppose anyone was putting in for transfers from one to the other? Get real. Jews and others suffered unimaginable horrors in many such places and if this is the biggest gaffe that Obama's detractors can produce, they are in even worse shape than we could imagine.

Posted by: Ron | May 29, 2008 2:29 AM

proudly for freedom wrote: "Whats the issue here, did he lie about his relatives patrioc acts? His discussion was about the need to support our veterans, or has that point been missed because he mixed up concentration camps?"

The problem with BHO is that he shoots from the hip all the time. He doesn't exercise reasonable care on the small issues and there's no reason to think he will when it really counts. He doesn't appear to understand simple policy concepts, which are necessary for leadership. This man is simply not qualified for the Presidency. We've suffered for seven years with an unqualified leader... do we really want to continue on this track? America will not survive another four years of incompetence.

Posted by: Gary Schilling | May 28, 2008 11:29 PM

None of these candidates are going to make anything better for any of us. Once they get elected it's going to be politics as usual. Our forefathers are rolling around in their graves.
We are all sheep if we believe anything different.

Posted by: ugh | May 28, 2008 5:21 PM

Focus on THE main issue--defeating the McCain /Bush Republican crowd in November.
Reject the wedge issues and non-issues, like BHO confusing concentration camps, Hillary mentioning RFK in the context of making a comment on chronology.
Forget you own racial, ethnic, and socio-economic biases--I, for one, am glad that not everyone is just like you (or like me, either, for the record).
Tone down the ignorance and vitriol.
Ask yourself if you're better off now than you were in 2000 and you think the country is headed in the right direction? Yes? Then vote Republican . . . No??? Vote Democrat.

Posted by: old white male democrat in WV | May 28, 2008 5:03 PM

From Brent Bozell -

ABC found that campaigning in Rush Limbaugh's hometown of Cape Girardeau, Missouri, Obama argued that our military's Arabic translators in Iraq are needed in Afghanistan: "We only have a certain number of them and if they are all in Iraq, then its harder for us to use them in Afghanistan," he claimed. But Afghans don't speak Arabic; they speak several other languages. That's a lot like McCain's gaffe - except for the degree of media attention, which in the Democrat's case was virtually nonexistent.

McCain also would have enjoyed more media focus on Obama's completely muddled analysis of South America last week. He told the Orlando Sentinel on Thursday that he would meet with Chavez to discuss "the fermentation of anti-American sentiment in Latin America, his support of FARC in Colombia and other issues he would want to talk about." But on Friday in Miami, he insisted any country supporting the Marxist guerillas of FARC should suffer "regional isolation." This left Obama advisers scrambling to suggest that these two opposing statements can somehow be put together, that he can meet Chavez and isolate him at the same time.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 28, 2008 4:59 PM

How about a poor choice for his top national security advisor? Ex-Clinton National Security chief Anthony Lake. Lake is currently charged with drawing up Obama's future foreign and military policies.

Yet, Lake has a long history of repeated errors, dangerous mistakes, and poor judgement. Lake was once nominated to head the CIA but withdrew only days before hearings were to start on Capitol Hill. Lake cited bitter-infighting over his record as National Security adviser as the sole reason for his withdrawal.

Lake is well documented in helping Enron win an exclusive energy deal with Mozambique. Allegedly, Lake strong-armed the Mozambique government into accepting Enron's bid for the vast Pande gas fields by shutting off humanitarian aid and threatening the president of Mozambique.

While ending food aid for starving African children in a vile effort for an Enron contract may not effect the African-American support for Lake's boss, it certainly should give cannon fire to his opponents who cite that Obama says one thing but does another behind closed doors.

The blood thirsty support for the now defunct Enron by Lake should at least give voters cause to wonder about Obama.

Still, national security folks can take great joy in the efforts put forth by Anthony Lake during the Clinton years. Lake oversaw the largest sell out of the century by working with Hughes.

In 1995, Tony Lake, received a letter from then-CEO of Hughes, C. Michael Armstrong. "The USG [U.S. government] does not require congressional approval to remove commercial satellites from the United States Munitions List (USML), which is under State Department jurisdiction, and placing them on the Commerce Control List (CCL), which is under Commerce Department jurisdiction," wrote Armstrong.

"It is my understanding that State has resisted vigorously Commerce attempts to do just that. For the national good, this situation must change. A commercial communications satellite is not a defense item. State Department control of satellites is not required for national security. Continued State Department control is damaging to the U.S. satellite industry and is not warranted."

The Hughes document concluded that control over the export of advanced U.S. satellite technology should be moved to the Commerce Department. Apparently Lake agreed and Clinton signed off on the transfer. The U.S. technology sent to China included the entire list of items sought by Hughes: anti-jam capability, advanced antennas, cross links, baseband processing, encryption devices, radiation hardening, and perigee kick motors.

Of course, all of these items were developed for military applications and China simply could not resist, sending all this technology into the development of nuclear warheads now aimed at America.

Moreover, Armstrong's contention that "a commercial communications satellite is not a defense item" is simply false. In fact, Hughes executives admitted that the satellites sold to China were military items. Ironically, the admission came when the company tried to sell Asiasat-3, a former Chinese satellite, to the U.S. military.

Asiasat-3 was placed into an incorrect orbit by a Russian Proton booster rocket launched from Baikonur in 1997. In 1998, space insurance companies paid off the satellite loss and transferred ownership to Hughes. AsiaSat-3, a "commercial" satellite sold to China, was more than just a $220 million piece of orbiting junk. Hughes recovered the satellite, using a special lunar orbit technique to bring it back into a useable position around the earth.

Hughes then offered the recovered ex-Chinese satellite to the U.S. Navy for military purposes. Mark J. Schwene, Hughes Global Services vice president, was quoted in Aviation Week and Space Technology making the offer.

Another secret 1996 White House memo to Lake shows that Loral requested that President Clinton sign a waiver for a satellite export at the same time that Loral was under investigation by the FBI for sending advanced satellite technology to China without a waiver.

According to the July 1, 1996 action memo for Presidential National Security Adviser Anthony Lake, "In mid-June, Globalstar's parent company, Loral requested that we temporarily delay evaluation of their request for a national interest waiver for this project. The company has now asked us to resume processing of their application, and State has confirmed its support for approval of the license."

"The Dept. of State, with the concurrence of the Departments of Commerce and Defense and the Officer of Science and Technology Policy, recommends that the President report to Congress that it is in the national interest to waive the Tiananmen Square sanctions in order to allow the licensing of communications satellites and related equipment for export to China," states the memo.

In July 1996, President Clinton followed Lake's recommendation and signed the waiver for Loral. Clinton's waiver gave Loral enough cover to claim that any previous transfers of advanced missile technology were approved. The result was that the FBI had to close the investigation.

When the Chinagate scandal broke, Loral went down in flames, cited for a long list of illegal exports to the Chinese military. The result was that Loral went into Chapter 11 bankruptcy and to this day it is struggling to survive. In addition, Hughes was charged with 123 counts of violating national security. Hughes pleaded no contest to the 123 charges filed by the U.S. State Department, paid a record fine and then was sold outright to Boeing.

None of these deals, Enron, Hughes, or Loral, could have happened without the approval of Anthony Lake. Lake was not only in the loop - he made the loop happen. Today, Lake is drawing up Senator Obama's national security policies. One can only wonder why Obama keeps Lake on as his national security adviser unless to cut him loose now would prove to be a major scandal.

Posted by: Isoruko | May 28, 2008 4:26 PM

compared to all the lies that we have been told in the last 7 and a half years this one just doesn't measure up. now if he lied about the reason to invade a country or intentionally mislabeled a bill that was meant to benefit one of his campaign contributors - that would be a full blown bald faced lie and something to get hung about. perspective is everything.

Posted by: Levon | May 28, 2008 4:14 PM

McCain on Missile Defense - "I don't care what [Putin's] objections are to it."

Obama on Missile Defense - "I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems." -

"Basic differences have also emerged among the candidates themselves. McCain, a Vietnam War veteran and ranking member on the Senate Armed Services Committee, has parted ways with Democrats by supporting a prolonged US presence in Iraq and Afghanistan. He has also taken a hawkish stance towards potential US adversaries, generally preferring containment policies to engagement. In contrast, both Democratic candidates favour a speedy withdrawal from Iraq and believe that engagement with troublesome regimes may bring the latter closer to the West."

Posted by: Isoruko | May 28, 2008 4:13 PM

Yes I would like to cast my vote on real problems if I could ever hear any details. McCain is not much better but Obama has gotten by on just oratory alone without offering much detail. So since he says little these gaffes become big news because what he says most of the time amounts to nothing.

Posted by: danielhancock | May 28, 2008 4:08 PM

Jeez, guys need to chill. Whats the issue here, did he lie about his relatives patrioc acts? His discussion was about the need to support our veterans, or has that point been missed because he mixed up concentration camps?

We are in a war in Iraq which was based on lies, has lead to no benefits to our nation and we have thousands of courageous citizens fighting out a meaningless battle. At the very least we should focus on how best our soldiers will be helped once they gat back.

McCain does not support improving veterans benefits. Obama does and you want to take issue about his relating a story that demonstrated the suffering his family member had following a traumatic war and the liberation of a concentration camp...??!! Man, talk about upside down priorities!

I would love to see us as Americans address the real issues, and they are not what is the right name of the camp, its about the high price of gas, the war we were lied into, the fact so many people are loosing their homes... etc based on who you think can address the real issues make your choice.

Of course if you think the issues that affect you every day are Rev Wright, Auchwitz and WWII, and wearing a flag pin, please feel free to cast your vote based on your real problems.

Posted by: proudly for freedom | May 28, 2008 4:01 PM

Obama's great grandfather did actually serve in a unit that occupied a concentration camp. But Obama must not of had much knowledge of this relative if he could not get the name of the camp right.

So I guess he thinks that by mentioning this relative he gives himself some military cred. Even if Obama got the story straight, the whole premise is flawed.

I could have had a relative that was the first on the beaches at Normandy but that does not make me a better or worse person. Why does Obama think it helps him to tell this story? Does mentioning a relative that fought make him more or less reliable on military and security issues?

Rather than relying on these stories, Obama should provide more details on what he actually believes. He has been running for quite awhile and I have little idea of what his core beliefs are.

The Obama smoke and mirrors hope and change show is getting old and the McCain is a third term for Bush argument is not a suitable replacement. If we heard more specific things about what Obama's plans are these gaffes would be less of a story.

Posted by: danielhancock | May 28, 2008 3:50 PM

"So the only nuclear legislation that I've passed has been to make sure that the nuclear industry has to disclose whatever they emit anything that might be considered radioactive and share that with local and state communities. I just did that last year." - Sen. Barack Obama, Remarks At A Town Hall In Newton, IA, 12/30/07

"Those revisions propelled the bill through a crucial committee. But, contrary to Mr. Obama's comments in Iowa, it ultimately died amid parliamentary wrangling in the full Senate.... Asked why Mr. Obama had cited it as an accomplishment while campaigning for president, the campaign noted that after the senator introduced his bill, nuclear plants started making such reports on a voluntary basis. The campaign did not directly address the question of why Mr. Obama had told Iowa voters that the legislation had passed." - credit Mike McIntire, "Nuclear Leaks And Response Tested Obama In Senate," The New York Times, 2/3/08

Posted by: Isoruko | May 28, 2008 3:02 PM

The great uncle was Charles T. Payne from Chicago and not from Kansas. He was in the 89th Infantry Division (Army)

of WWII.

From the records of members of that infantry division:

"Payne C. T. Pfc 355th Inf K "

Posted by: Josh | May 28, 2008 2:53 PM

Seriously? This is on par with McCain's Sunni/Shia screwup? Give me a break. His great-uncle did liberate a concentratio camp, it was just Buchenwald instead of Auschwiz. Yep, I'm sure you know all your granparent's generation's stories perfectly well. I've been told my great-uncle was in Italy during WWII. Is it true? Probably, but I've not fact-checked it. Was he in the War? Absolutely he was. I tell people the stories I've been told - that my grandmother's four brothers were in different branches of service during the War, and one particular one was in Italy and brought her back a cameo necklace (that he probably swiped from some poor woman somewhere.) I still have that necklace. So, we have a tendency to re-tell our personal histories as fact, without bothering to vet it first. I'm sure he was doing the same.

Everyone is hoping this will stick because they've got nothing else. Pathetic.

Posted by: Mazarin | May 28, 2008 2:37 PM

As I noted before in my earlier post - this is NOT the first time that Obama has used this grab line. In 2002 he said basically the same thing - so this is not a single mistake - as some would have us believe. This is one of many such inflated claims made by the Senator.

Obama 2002 speech -

"My grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, fought in Patton's army. He saw the dead and dying across the fields of Europe; he heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka. He fought in the name of a larger freedom, part of that arsenal of democracy that triumphed over evil, and he did not fight in vain."

Posted by: Isoruko | May 28, 2008 2:04 PM

It is not really Buchenwald, but yet again another lie.

It was Ohrdruf which is a work camp, Not a death camp that had political prisoners, not necessarily jews.

Ohrdruf in in Germany- NOT IN POLAND and is a completely different kind of camp that wasn't nearly as deadly as the Polish death camps.

And it's not his "uncle", but a more distant family member, since his mother never had a brother.

I am appalled in the exploitation of the horrors of the Holocaust for the purpose of a politial propaganda.

More disturbing is the fact that thepresidential candidate does not history not geography.

Confusing Poland and Germany is one thing, a forced wrok camp with a deat camp is another, and calling any guy "uncle" is another big problem here.

Posted by: Shira | May 28, 2008 1:46 PM


Posted by: RUGMAN | May 28, 2008 1:40 PM

Like Hillary, this was a partial fabrication to appeal to certain voters. In his case, Jews, who fear his weakness on terrorists and Iran.
I guess Obama's gaffes and multiple confused moments are just one more flaw about him we can't mention, like the Anti-American hate mongers and unrepentent terrorists he chums with, like never mentioning his middle name, like never criticizing his wife when she's on the stump as much as him, like never mentioning having the most Liberal voting record in the Senate, or being inexperienced, ignorant, and African American, or question if his Muslim background might color his planned surrender in Iraq, or even why he snubs the American flag. Be civil folks, don't you know he's the Messiah? Just deal with issues, like change and hope. Don't bother him with details, this is the NEW politician, don'tcha know? As much as he'd like to deflect any and all criticism as too personal, running for President is a ruthless business that tests what the candidates are made of. If he can't take it, maybe he should sell shoes. The DNC won't let up on their dirty tricks and voter fraud, the GOP should keep the heat on Obama.

Posted by: Robert Boutiere | May 28, 2008 1:30 PM

Alas, we must forget McCain confusing more than once Shiite's with Sunni's training in Iran and going into Iraq. Iran is a Shia country and wouldnt train Sunni's at all, they'd rather torture and kill them. NOW THATS A GAFFE!

Posted by: JoshtheVET | May 28, 2008 1:20 PM

All right, people, let's have some sanity here.
The campaign is long and candidates give hundreds of speeches. Each candidate is bound to make some gaffes. All candidates need to be given some slack on that account. To give a wrong place name or to confuse uncle with great uncle, what is the big deal? Clinton's remarks about Robert Kennedy's assassination were unwise but also don't justify vicious attacks. Outright lies, like claiming to have participated in a certain event is another matter altogether. Candidates can and should be called to account for falsehoods. They also can and should be attacked on issues. But please, no more swift boating. No maligning the other candidate's character. Let's keep the campaign civil, shall we? After all the USA is supposed to be a civilized country.

Posted by: RHSchumann | May 28, 2008 11:12 AM

My grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, fought in Patton's army. He saw the dead and dying across the fields of Europe; he heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka. He fought in the name of a larger freedom, part of that arsenal of democracy that triumphed over evil, and he did not fight in vain.

confused with his grandfather as well as his grand uncle....fellow troops that first entered Auschwitz...fellow troops must have been Russians..being they were the first that entered that camp.... that he heard...confused my $@##%

Posted by: Anonymous | May 28, 2008 11:11 AM

evidently you can't get your story right was his uncle at first..then it was his grand uncle and now you say his grand dad ...which is now?????

Oh My God! Because he made a mistake and his grandad actually liberated Buchenwald and not Auschwitz, I JUST WILL NOT SUPPORT HIM ANYMORE! UNFIT! UNFIT! LOL.


The anti-Obama nutsies are hilarious.

Posted by: sequoia | May 28, 2008 9:43 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | May 28, 2008 10:51 AM

Blah, Blah, Blah!!!===++++ so he had the name of the camp wrong. He admitted the mistake and corrected it immediately. I guarantee you that if the Bosnian story on Hillary taking sniper fire had been confined to just the name of the town being the wrong place, there would not have been a story.BFD.

Posted by: majorteddy | May 28, 2008 10:16 AM

Delivered on Wednesday, October 2, 2002 by Barack Obama.

Good afternoon. Let me begin by saying that although this has been billed as an anti-war rally, I stand before you as someone who is not opposed to war in all circumstances.

The Civil War was one of the bloodiest in history, and yet it was only through the crucible of the sword, the sacrifice of multitudes, that we could begin to perfect this union, and drive the scourge of slavery from our soil. I don't oppose all wars.

My grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, fought in Patton's army. He saw the dead and dying across the fields of Europe; he heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka. He fought in the name of a larger freedom, part of that arsenal of democracy that triumphed over evil, and he did not fight in vain.

Posted by: Isoruko | May 28, 2008 10:16 AM

I think the Clinton campaign should come out and call this completely unacceptable, and then Clinton steps forward and says we should give Obama the benefit of the doubt. This is what the clever little Axelrod and Obama do.

Posted by: greenfun | May 28, 2008 10:02 AM

Getting slightly off topic, as a Russian I find this label - "The Red Army of Joseph Stalin" pretty insulting. I know the Washington Post has a pretty strong anti-Russian bias but this is ridiculous. It was not the Army of Stalin, it was the Soviet Army. No one was fighting for Stalin, they were fighting to kick the Germans out of Russian and punish them. There's a reason why most recruiting posters said "The Motherland calls you", and not "Stalin calls you." Even at the worst point of the Soviet dictatorship most people had no desire to give their lives for Stalin. Thanks, Weisman, thanks for insulting the memory of the millions and millions of Soviet citizens who gave their lives to liberate places like Auschwitz. You're a pig.

Posted by: vanya | May 28, 2008 9:56 AM

This mostly beautiful villages came to their terrible signifation like Rosmary to her baby. If switzerland would have being occupied Davos would have been a concentration camp too and wouldn't be famous today for his world economic forum. So why being so offended when barack is mixing up the names of the concentration camps. When you think about those names you don't think about this beautiful villages you just think about different places of a huge killing industry.

Posted by: maz hess | May 28, 2008 9:43 AM

Oh My God! Because he made a mistake and his grandad actually liberated Buchenwald and not Auschwitz, I JUST WILL NOT SUPPORT HIM ANYMORE! UNFIT! UNFIT! LOL.


The anti-Obama nutsies are hilarious.

Posted by: sequoia | May 28, 2008 9:43 AM

"Republicans October Surprise on Obamas. Video of Michelle Obama railing against whitey in Rev. Wright's church."

Wow. A few interviews with a bunch of white and one Hispanic immigrant Tennesseans. How compelling. Didn't see any old black people interviewed. "I'm proud of watching my father get lynched. I'm proud of having gone to a school that had no heat in the winter and getting cheated out of my share of the crops year after year. I'm proud of the time I was beaten up for looking at a white woman. I'm proud of not being able to vote until 1965. I'm proud of spending all my life working for white people who inherited the fruits of my great-grandfather's unpaid labor, while I inherited the privilege of working for them. I'm proud that those who spoke loudest and worked hardest to make sure that I would be treated as an equal, an American and a human being were gunned down or bombed by white assassins, some wearing police badges. I'm proud that even today, when there's a recession I'm the first to get fired and the last to get a loan." I don't know why they didn't interview those proud black people. Maybe they were just too busy being proud of their country, too grateful for all they've received that they couldn't compose their emotions to be on camera.

Posted by: treetopflyer | May 28, 2008 9:09 AM

I never said Obama wrote the law. I said he pushed it through, which he did. He was the one who brought together the pro- and anti-death penalty advocates both in and out of the senate, the police and the prosecutors and made them all see that it was in their best interests that the law passed. He made the police and prosecutors realize that videotaping interrogations would lend credibility to confessions, which was lacking at the time; he made death penalty advocates realize that innocent people being executed hurt their cause; and he made the anti-death penalty people realize that although an innocent person executed might help their cause, they didn't really want that on their consciences. Regardless of who wrote the law, it was Obama who shepherded it through the senate and got it turned into law.

You seem to be showing the symptoms of ignorance. The suggested remedy is reading.

Posted by: treetopflyer | May 28, 2008 8:49 AM

On September 11th, 2001, over 300 police officers and firefighters were killed while saving the lives of thousands who might have died in the World Trade Center without their help. Did these people, who did not wear the military uniform, who gave their lives to save the lives of others, meet your requirements for "serving their country"? Pinhead?

Posted by: treetopflyer | May 28, 2008 8:41 AM

"Obama pushed through a law requiring the videotaping of police interrogations in Illinois. It helped make sure that confessions in death penalty cases were credible and that innocent people didn't get executed. Am I alone in believing the saving of innocent life is serving one's country?"

no he did not.
what Barry did was sign his name to legislation that another state senator put together, wrote, and then was given to barry.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 28, 2008 8:40 AM

Republicans October Surprise on Obamas.


Republicans October Surprise on Obamas. Video of Michelle Obama railing against whitey in Rev. Wright's church.

More video showing Michelle Obama, railing against whitey from the pulpit of racist, anti-US pastor Reverend Wrights church, former Deputy Director in the US State Department.
Four republican sources (three who are senior Republicans) confirm there is video dynamite coming -Michelle Obama railing against whitey at Jeremiah Wrights church. Republicans are hell on wheels when it comes to opposition research. They took a chance and started reviewing the recordings from services at Jeremiah Wright's United Church of Christ which are on sale. And Holy smoke!! There are clips being held for the fall to drop at the appropriate time. The last thing Barrack needs are new clips that raises further questions about Michelle Obama poor judgment, mean and hateful temperament, when this clip is made public, Obama's hope of becoming the next president of the United States will be instantly destroyed.


We are told it is why Obama's recent statement urging Republicans to lay off his wife, as if Michelle Obama's behavior, provocative statements and high-profile stance during his campaign should somehow be immune from examination and criticism and we should just allow her to call Americans MEAN because she isn't proud of her country or like white folks! Now we understand why Obama's chief political adviser David Alexrod on National Public Radio claimed white working class Democrats barely exist and hardly matter, white working class has gone to the Republican nominee for many elections, This is not new, WE don't need or rely solely on those votes.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 28, 2008 8:39 AM


BOYCOTT CNN & MSNBC for manipulating the Presidential election with the biased pushing of obama before researching.

May 27, 2008
Tracking Polls (General)
Gallup: McCain 47, Obama 45
Gallup: Clinton 49, McCain 44
Rasmussen: McCain 45, Obama 45
Rasmussen: Clinton 47, McCain 45

Hillary Clinton's plummets Obama in West Virginia and KY raises serious doubts over Barack Obama's ability. SENATOR CLINTON WINS THE STATES NEEDED TO TAKE WHITE HOUSE, OBAMA DOES NOT

FACT: NO Democrat has won the White House since 1916 without winning West Virginia, Obama lost West Virginia by more than 40 points, an enormous fall, voters who went against Obama -- white, rural, older, low-income and without college degrees who live everywhere in the country, where Obama would need to win in a general election. In anticipation of the West Virginia primary, Obama supporters were hurling insults at farmers and truck drivers. Now we hear pained remarks from the Obama camp that many white men won't vote for any black. Oh really? No one was complaining during the early races in Iowa, Maryland, Virginia and Wisconsin, when most of the white male participants backed Obama. That was before the Rev. Jeremiah Wright ugliness became public. Obama's inability to persuade working-class white voters to back him points to serious problem for him in the presidential election. A large percentage of voters who back Mrs Clinton said they would not vote for Obama. Disrespecting the nearly 22 million who have supported Clinton is politically unwise, Obama camp turning them into "the enemy" is insane. More facts and proof Obama is to inexperienced and as a political elite out of touch with everyday America, Obama received glowing, it's-over-he-is-the-nominee coverage for the past six days, and that amounted to nothing in West Virginia. One has to wonder if the giddy praise and tingling feelings jolting up the legs of ALL at CNN and the Chris Matthewses, Keith Olbermanns cable news "Wright-free zones" of the world amounts to a hill of beans. Voters have figured out the biased media and no longer relying on them for truth!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 28, 2008 8:38 AM

Thank you President Bill Clinton on calling out the main stream media like CNN & MSNBC on the complete disrepect and unfair treatment of Senator Clitnon and women in general, they have continued to receive and endure assults from these biased scared tabloid media fools, like Ken Oberman and Chris Matthews with their man infatuation with Obama...its funny how they claim over and over Clinton Lies but Obama flubbs???? come on!!! OBAMAS gets caught in lie after lie after lie!!!!! why would ANY VOTER BELIEVE OBAMA CAMP!!!!!


Obama LIES about Concentration Camp Claim at an attempt to attract Jewish voters, Often Obama inaccurately recalls his own history and American history, so it's important that we point to the facts Barack Obama's dubious claim is inconsistent with world history and demands an explanation,"It was Soviet troops that liberated Auschwitz, so unless his uncle was serving in the Red Army, there's no way Obama's statement yesterday can be true. Obama's frequent exaggerations and outright distortions raise questions about his judgment and his readiness to lead as commander in chief.

Sen. Obama referrers to himself as 'a constitutional law professor on the campaign trail. TRUTH: He never held any such title! Obama changed website bio to reflect that he was a 'lecturer' rather than 'professor. Chicago Daily Herald

Judicial Watch: Klaus Marre-Obama 'intended to leave no paper trail' OBAMA REFUSES to cooperate in releasing 8 years of his state senate records. One main reason REZKO!

Obama gets 4 Pinocchio's for 100 Years War-why national media won't call out Obama for his distortions on McCain's Iraq comments.

Washington Post caught Obama in a lie about the Kennedy family role claiming them helping his Father Contrary to Obama's claims Kennedy family did not provide the funding for a September 1959 historical records July 1960. Family Kennedy's donated $100,000 to pay for a second airlift in September 1960.

Politico reports, "During his first run for elected office, Barack Obama played a greater role than he acknowledges in crafting liberal stands on gun control, the death penalty and abortion- positions that appear at odds with the more moderate image he's projected during his presidential campaign. The evidence comes from an amended version of an Illinois voter group's detailed questionnaire, filed under his name during his bid for a state Senate. In response to a Politico story, Obama's answers he never saw questioaire?

It's unfortunate that Senator Obama is using false advertising to explain why he can be trusted to do something about energy prices. In his ad, Obama says, I'm Barack Obama, and I don't take money from oil companies or lobbyists, and I won't let them block change any more. Obama has been the recipient of more than $220,000 from the oil and gas industry just since as of Feb/08. Two of Obama's campaign bundlers are also CEOs for oil and gas companies, per his campaign Web site? Obama dealings with one of his largest contributors Exelon, that he cut deals behind closed doors protecting them from full disclosure in the nuclear industry. Exxon, Shell, and others are among his biggest donors

Obamas record shows he infact did support the war when he got to the senate, voted twice against bringing America's troops back home. He voted for war appropriations giving our money to Halliburton and Blackwater where Texas woman, was gang-raped by her co-workers at a Halliburton/KBR camp in Baghdad, His latest bit of posturing S 433 allows the Bush Administration to suspend any troop withdrawal, if not suspended, keeps the troops in Iraq for a long time to come

Posted by: Anonymous | May 28, 2008 8:37 AM

At this moment there are professors at universities teaching future engineers, some of whom may go on to discover sustainable energy solutions that will break our oil dependency, boost the economy around the world and save our planet from slowly cooking itself to death. Do these seekers of the Holy Grail of energy meet your requirements for "serving their country"? Pinhead?

Posted by: treetopflyer | May 28, 2008 8:32 AM

Roy3, I know that's you, afraid to even post under a pseudonym. A poster may not post under anonymity. :-p

Posted by: treetopflyer | May 28, 2008 8:29 AM

At this moment there are clergy of all faiths, Abrahamic and other, who are working with gangs, building homes with Habitat for Humanity, running programs to feed the hungry, counseling the bereaved, providing spiritual support, running schools, advocating for justice for those without money or connections, visiting prisoners, helping them to accept responsibility for their crimes and become better people for their own sake and society's. Do these comforters of the soul, who sometimes give to the point of their own lives, meet your conditions for "serving their country"? Pinhead?

Posted by: treetopflyer | May 28, 2008 8:27 AM

"The Obama campaign says the mistake was not as horrific as it might seem. His uncle was there at the liberation of Buchenwald. Obama just confused the names of the concentration camps".

OK we don´t no yet if it was as horrific as i might seem. First we have to make a serious reseach to find out whether this "greatuncle" ever was in Buchenwald.

This man is so confused that he does not dare to take a free debate against Hillary Clinton. And a president of The United States of America may not be confused.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 28, 2008 8:25 AM

At this moment teachers in the worst, most dangerous inner cities in our country are doing their damnedest to feed students hungry for knowledge, to motivate and give hope to those who have given up, to equip as many as possible with the mental tools to escape the quicksand of their socially toxic environment. Every child they reach is one less criminal and one more productive citizen who will go on to lead a meaningful life. Most are underpaid, many work way into their own time and buy teaching materials with their own money because their schools are too poor. Do these people throwing lifelines to the drowning meet your requirements for "serving their country"? Pinhead?

Posted by: treetopflyer | May 28, 2008 8:18 AM

At this moment, there are tens of thousands of doctors, orderlies, nurses and medical technicians tending to patients all over this country, doing their best to ease their suffering and bring them back to health. Most do not/have not/will never wear a military uniform. Do these quiet heroes meet your definition of serving their country? Pinhead?

Posted by: treetopflyer | May 28, 2008 8:13 AM

This is the kind of "gotcha" games that trivialize politics. What was Sen Obama saying?

- A member of his family liberated a concentration camp at the end of WW II
- The experience affected the family member deeply
- That family member had no way of getting help--something we need to look at for today's veterans

What is the story?
- Gotcha 1: It's not Auschwitz. Yep, it was a sub camp of Buchenwald. Still a concentration camp
- Gotcha 2: He's not an uncle. Yep, it was a great-uncle instead of uncle. Don't know how it is in your families, but in mine we have several great-aunts (only one left now) who we refer to as "Aunt" all the time

The basic pieces of the story are TRUE--distinctly different from the Sen Clinton "Sniper Fire" story where the basic details of the story never happened.

When you don't have a good policy position on treatment of PTSD in veterans, I suppose it makes a kind of sense to play gotcha games. So play gotcha games if you want (it's a bipartisan game, as witness the brouhaha over Sen McCain's "100 years in Iraq" comment).

But I submit that rather than jousting over petty details we actually focus on talking with each other about what the fundamental issues and problems are--so we (gasp) work at solving them.

Posted by: Banzai45 | May 28, 2008 8:13 AM

Jonas Salk never wore a uniform, but invented the vaccine that eliminated polio, one of the world's most devastating diseases. Millions worldwide were spared the iron lung and death because of him. When Edward R. Murrow asked him who owned the patent to the vaccine, he said, "There is no patent. Could you patent the sun?"

Does that satisfy your requirements for serving one's country? Pinhead?

Posted by: treetopflyer | May 28, 2008 8:09 AM

If there was a way for barack to be sure that every single american was informed that his "uncle" has liberated tortured jews in buchenwald then it was that way. Out of obamas famous book: "How to let even the republicans working for your behalf"

Posted by: maz hess | May 28, 2008 8:07 AM

Obama pushed through a law requiring the videotaping of police interrogations in Illinois. It helped make sure that confessions in death penalty cases were credible and that innocent people didn't get executed. Am I alone in believing the saving of innocent life is serving one's country?

Posted by: treetopflyer | May 28, 2008 8:03 AM

"Not like good 'ol Obama - never served this country..."

Yes he did - as a community organizer. You don't have to wear a uniform to serve your country. For those who forget, here's a list of nonmilitary professions that give people the opportunity to serve their country:

Police officer
Social worker
Food pantry worker/organizer
Soup kitchen " "
Corrections officer
Peace activist
Foreign aid worker (creating goodwill overseas)

In short, anyone who works to serve the poor, underprivileged, hungry, abandoned, hurt, and forgotten serves their country, or strives to create a better future. It doesn't have to be military.

Got it, pinhead? :-)

Posted by: treetopflyer | May 28, 2008 7:58 AM

A family relationship, either the brother of a parent or the husband of a sibling of a parent. A woman with an equivalent relationship is an aunt, and the reciprocal relationship is that of a nephew or niece.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 28, 2008 7:35 AM

Please Washington Post, this is serious. Firstly: Try to find out if he really had an uncle. Secondly: Try to find out if that uncle, if he has existed, really to part at the liberation of Buchenwald! I don´t believe a word of this mans story.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 28, 2008 7:26 AM

I am wondering if Barack Obama has a soul. The reason is that he deceitfulnessly and unpleasantly has used holocaust to make it sound as if his family was a good example. He even did so on the very day when the Veterans were hounored. He can not be trusted! I don´t believe in anything he is telling us about his "great" realtives.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 28, 2008 7:18 AM

1) he just claimed to SEE DEAD PEOPLE:

"On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes--and I see many of them in the audience here today--our sense of patriotism is particularly strong"

2) create an uncle that NEVER EXISTED! because his mother WAS AN ONLY CHILD!!!!!!!

3) oh yeah, and the kicker!!! GOT THE WRONG CAMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At least HRC was actually in an area that there WAS sniper fire!

Not like good 'ol Obama - never served this country, never been to a war zone!!!!!!, and can't wear "that pin" - oh, sorry, his is pandering NOW and wearing "that pin" - God, that must really hurt him and Michelle!!! and he can't SALUTE THE AMERICAN FLAG EITHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If the DNC thinks they are going to force the American people into accepting Obama because women are afraid of McCain putting in Supreme Court Justices that will overturn Roe V Wade then they have got another thing coming!!!!!!!!

Posted by: A Woman | May 28, 2008 6:44 AM

I thihk Obama DELIBERATELY gives some wrong tidbits to make certain that the GOP and those against him are on their toes and must take FAR MORE TIME to research every word spoken in an effort to tear him down. Maybe this will teach them to stop disputing his every word. He has not exaggerated and he has certainly not LIED to anyone unlike someone else we all know too well!

Posted by: FedUpinVA | May 28, 2008 6:24 AM

All together now...You are my sunshine, my only sunshine...

At another arena filled rally for Obama in "Sunrise", FL - Obama called the city as "Sunshine" four times!!!!!!!

1) ha ha

2) ha ha

3) ha ha

4) ha ha

Seriously, this guy should not leave home without a teleprompter!

ha ha ha ha

Posted by: Did you hear? | May 28, 2008 6:23 AM

I mean really people. Give the guy a break. He didn't have a teleprompter and he wasn't giving his hope change blah blah blah speech that is so inspiring.

I mean really people. He must link himself to as many historical events as possible and without a teleprompter - in that wind - did you see that wind - for heaven's sake, he had to read looking down and lift up his head at the same time.

I mean really people.

Posted by: I mean really people. | May 28, 2008 6:12 AM

Obama #1 BS'er

It just might get you the white house

Posted by: Please, no | May 28, 2008 6:06 AM

Look Hillary's Bosnia was bad, no way around it. She did apologize. She was also nailed to the stake for weeks and even still the Obamadrone will bring it up when they have nothing else to comment on.

But come on!


His mother was an ONLY CHILD!!!!!!!!

Obama himself has not even acknowledge this nor, mostly, as the media!!!!!!!!!

Obama lied about his parents meeting place, his historical reference that time was Selma! For which he was born 4 years later!

He has been caught in so many lies!

For heaven's sake, the media is still trying to make this whole RFK/June reference of Hillary's out to be like she was calling out for the unthinkable! Really really stretching into the realm of ugly-pro-Obama-mass-media-promotion yet these "facts" of Obama's hardly hit the radar!!!!!

People, if for some reason, Hillary does not get this nomination and we all vote for McCain then we will still be force feed Obama and then the real end of our country as we know it will be gone FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by: No Obama | May 28, 2008 6:00 AM


Are you serious? You wrote all of that for what? Getting the name of a concentration camp is paramount to what? HUH?

You are digging deep my friend. REAL DEEP.. You should be hitting th e water table anytime now.

Posted by: Vance | May 28, 2008 5:35 AM

So much bloviating for Obama by his zombified supporters, so little substance. Not surprised, of course. Such is the nature of Obama's misty eyed "followers."

The real crux of the issue is this:
(I'll outline it in a simple form so that those of you with an IQ lower than that of a wildebeast might understand)

1) Obama was speaking at a Memorial Day event.
2) Memorial Day is a day when we remember those who gave their lives in the service of this nation.
3) He spoke of a FAMILY member who served in the war (are you with me so far? This isn't hard stuff, I hope you Obamanations are keeping up)
4) He didn't bother to even fact-check what concentration camp his great uncle had liberated. Sorry, but he didn't "mis-speak." "Auschwitz" neither looks or sounds like "Buchenwald."
5) What a nice way to "remember" your great uncle on MEMORIAL DAY when you can't even be bothered to find out what camp it was that he helped to liberate.
6) The man is running for POTUS, not senior class president of "God damn America" high school.

Get it?

Stating the name of the wrong concentration camp is not the problem, it is the fact that he didn't even bother to do just a cursory amount of research on the subject to make sure he got it right, and assumed that everything he says is OK, whether factually correct or not. After all, he's Barack Obama! He can't be bothered with tiny details like what murder factory was called what, and crap like that! I mean, he's above that kind of silly triviality!

This wasn't some guy he never heard of, but his own family member.

I'm sure his great uncle was very proud that Obama was "memorializing" him on Memorial Day without even bothering to get his facts straight. Happy Memorial Day, Unk!

The man is a self absorbed charlatan, a slick Willie clone that thinks he's above the details. Why does he think he's above the details? Because all of his followers believe him to be above the details. Sorry Barack, but there's still that tiny wedge of the populace that has to vote for you in order for you to win. Some of them actually have brains and use them, unlike so many of your cult-like disciples.

How dare the electorate expect a prez candidate to get the "Memorial" facts right about one of his own family members on Memorial Day! Shame on us!

Posted by: chris | May 28, 2008 5:11 AM

Remember, a Demagogue could do and bluff anything in his best interest. If it turns out to be false, he just says that he slips his tongue. Do you buy that?

Posted by: Rapa | May 28, 2008 4:24 AM

This is so much about nothing. We all make slip of the tongue mistakes. To say that anyone would invoke Auschwitz intentionally because it is "more well known" is absurd since I bet most people don't know Aushwitz from Buchenwald...and most likely if you know one you know the other.

As everyone has said...the basic story was right. He was referring to something that happened over 60 years ago and remembering from a family story. Comparing this to Clinton's incorrect Bosnia story is absurd. Compare this to McCain's inability to remember what is happening on the ground today in Iraq (Shia/Shiite) is absurd.

We all make slip of the tongue mistakes, but its only if the story is basically wrong that we lie. He told the truth. This was a non-story that has become a story: a story of the Repubs complete lack of a vision.

Posted by: Brad | May 28, 2008 3:10 AM

Just goes to show how desperate the RNC is going into this election. They have no issues to speak about. They have betrayed the public trust with a confluence of lies and deception. So much so, they see lies and deception in every nook and cranny and even in granny. BFD! They have no credibility and have no wherewithal to try to claim the moral high ground.

Posted by: tydicea | May 28, 2008 2:09 AM

out of curiosity, Shyana, upon what do you base your suspicions?

Posted by: Dylan St. James | May 28, 2008 2:04 AM

I wonder if the Obama campaign can produce any records of Obama's uncle or grandfather serving in any Army unit while the unit was liberating camps. His story sounds concocted and poorly researched. Several of my family members served in the U.S. Army during WWII and helped close down some of the camps. I remember the stories they told while I was growing up. Obama's story in comparison sounds like pure grandstanding.

There must be easier ways to get votes than to rattle the bones of the victims who died in Nazi concentration camps.

Posted by: Shayna | May 28, 2008 2:00 AM

I'm not intimidated by a strong woman. I encourage strength of character in all of my students regardless of sex. As a modern male, if I'm not mistaken, the fact that she is a woman should have no effect on my opinions either way. I simply do not believe the minor variation between the two candidates should be ignored. Hillary simply does not represent me as a democrat; in my mind her policy will require more future attention to damage control. Perhaps some people should be honest with themselves: ever consider the possibility you're voting for Hillary Clinton simply because she's a woman? As I said earlier, impunity is not an excuse to change the subject.

Posted by: Dylan St. James | May 28, 2008 1:55 AM


I'd much rather prefer it, if people came out of the closet and admitted that they're not voting for Hillary because they are intimidated by a strong woman.

You'd have your woman silent, and preoccupied with watching Sex and the City.

ADMIT IT - you feel threatened by a strong woman.

Only in America will a highly qualified individual be denied equal opportunity because of what's between or not between the legs.

Posted by: Albert Fat | May 28, 2008 1:44 AM

If you don't vote for Obama, you hate black people - you're a racist.

If you don't vote for Clinton, you hate women - you're a sexist.

If you don't vote for McCain - you hate old white people - you're a racist and engaging in Age discrimination.


Posted by: AmericaGoneWrong | May 28, 2008 1:40 AM

Blatantly racist, ignorant, pugnacious, insolent, and generally lewd comments truly have no place here. Furthermore, those who wish to question either party/candidate's intelligence probably should at least attempt a little forethought lest we shall begin to question yours. As we may speak with impunity, the temptation to use this blog as a forum to attack each other or an uninvolved contributor (candidates) and fade into obscurity is strong. Please, focus on the issue at hand: questionable facts presented by Obama in a Memorial Day speech recounting a veteran's past.

Correct me if I'm spewing nonsense, but wouldn't it be more logical to imagine this not as an attempt to concoct a patriotic image but an observation of what all Americans are encouraged to do on Memorial Day? --extolling the heroism of our war veterans. The major error, a change of camp names, is one I am certain any one of us could have made. The fact that the story was described as something not discussed by Obama's great-uncle (a distinction not made in many American sub-cultures, mine included, btw) could mean that family lore was told absent of a location and name recognition provided one. Regardless, the story is basically true. In turn, the RNC's reaction was appropriate for the information provided. The facts have been revealed, the situation ameliorated, and if one should still feel angry perhaps the problem is he.

One last point: Obama is racially mixed. As Americans, each of us must accept this as an undeniable truth at some point or our genetic heritage; the exact mixture may not be the same but the principle applies. Color is not an ethnicity, so all this "white uncle?" stuff...really? I mean, really? Or did you simply join a debate so ill-informed and actually expected to be taken seriously?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 28, 2008 1:36 AM

lets get this straight..his uncle did help liberate a concentration camp and Obama mispoke about which one....

8 years of Bushisms....McCain cant remember who is involved in Iraq and the conservatives have the gall to get on Obama for this???

Give me a break.

Posted by: calibans cousin | May 28, 2008 1:34 AM

Obama Fuzzy on facts yet again.

He has been to all 57 states.

Was and was not present when Reverend Wright made offensive, racist anti-American comments.

Is going to remove all troops from Iraq, but will return if Al-Qaeda has a presence there.

Wants businesses to stay in the US but wants to punish them with higher taxes.

Belives America should conserve its way to energy independence but complains about the higher energy costs that conservation requires.

Posted by: TargetGift Card | May 28, 2008 1:33 AM


Posted by: unimportant | May 28, 2008 1:29 AM

The way I heard Jerry Husane Obamas story was this way! His mother put him in a reed basket and sent him afloat on the river Nile. A Pharaohs sister found him and sent him to Hartford so he could BS his way to president! His first class [Screw the public 101] was given by three super - High Priest Sleuth Sayer delegates Ted K - Mr Dodd -Mr Richardson! Now with staff in hand he strikes the large rock before him and turns himself into a Jewish Pharaoh. He announces it's OK for Jews to have 150 nukes! Jerry for pres Hal-a-Lu-ya!!!!

Posted by: jackmack74 | May 28, 2008 1:21 AM

I am not an Obama supporter and I find it interesting that he suddenly remembers his white relatives as opposed to when he was listening to Wright's anti white tirades, but not remembering which concentration camp his great uncle's unit liberated is really not such a big deal.

Posted by: RJB | May 28, 2008 1:06 AM

Oh God give it a break. The man said the wrong camp. At least he was right about Iraq. He never pretended to land under sniper fire, and also never confused Shia and Sunni.

Conservatives do not try to change the subject, ya boy boy Scotty Mc, just put yall on blast. I can't wait hear them defend this one.

Posted by: Antoine | May 28, 2008 12:48 AM

Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain's national campaign general co-chair was being paid by a Swiss bank to lobby Congress about the U.S. mortgage crisis at the same time he was advising McCain about his economic policy, federal records show. [See sidebar.]

"Countdown with Keith Olbermann" reported Tuesday night that lobbying disclosure forms, filed by the giant Swiss bank UBS, list McCain's campaign co-chair, former Texas Sen. Phil Gramm, as a lobbyist dealing specifically with legislation regarding the mortgage crisis as recently as Dec. 31, 2007.

Gramm joined the bank in 2002 and had registered as a lobbyist by 2004. UBS filed paperwork deregistering Gramm on April 18 of this year. Gramm continues to serve as a UBS vice chairman.

And Obama tells a true story and makes a small mistake.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 28, 2008 12:37 AM

Perhaps some of you have missed the irony: The people who voted for and supported George Bush are criticizing Obama for making an error. In what universe do these people live? Their candidate doesn't seem to know the difference between Shia and Sunni, says the Bush tax cut is immoral until he needs the votes of these morons and begs for the support of anti-Catholic anti-Sematic yahoos. Who is he? PandaMan!

Posted by: DavidKnows | May 28, 2008 12:27 AM

I truly respect Rob's (comment). I understand his position. Conversations about the historical veracity of the grave happenings in Germany are extremely important. Great care should be taken in their discussion.

I might come to the same conclusion as Rob if I surmised that this misspeak came from some wanton attempt from Sen. Obama to steep himself in military credentials. I can't believe it is so. I know many are willing to label Obama as an opportunistic miscreant who is far too willing to stretch the truth for political gain. But this is inconsistent with the what we've seen of him. This reads more as a story that he was reaching for from the crevices of his memory as he spoke to a live crowd. In trying to recall the well-worn story of his childhood, he pulled out the familiar rather than the accurate prison camp. Dangerously so, no doubt, but not a breech of character that would diminish my respect of him. I may be speaking in vain to many, but I cannot imagine that this was an attempt at misleading anyone. (Certainly not in this technological age.)

This can be likened to the second-hand account of the young girl without health care that Hillary pulled people stretched out of proportion.

Posted by: j f n | May 28, 2008 12:22 AM

This is not a story, and the author's tone makes it seem more sinister than it really is. Also, the post needs to be updated to reflect the correction. Obama made a one word mistake, and he immediately apologized for and corrected it. The fact that the Republicans and the silly psycho posters are jumping on this and calling him a liar just shows how desperate they all are, grasping at straws. The irony is that all of the people challenging him are people who have forgiven dozens of mistakes from his opponents, but they won't let him make even one.

Posted by: Di | May 28, 2008 12:11 AM

Don't relate stories unless you know they're true. Period.
Let's face it -- Obama was trying to make a point, but he wasn't willing to do the hard work of actually getting his facts together. Once again, he was all show, no actual abiility.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 28, 2008 12:11 AM

For someone like me, every one of you misses the point of this. I've spoken on numerous occasions to my great uncle who was a combat medic that went into Buchenwald with Patton. I've heard the stories and seen the photos and yes, Obama has every right to be proud of his family for being there as do all of the soldiers and families of men that liberated Nazi prison camps and fought in WWII. I am voting McCain but I still have a large amount of respect for Obama. You can tell in his words that this isn't some pre-conceived speech written for him but rather from somewhere deeper. Still, as many times as I've heard the story I can't fathom saying "my uncle served and liberated Auschwitz." Some of you might not understand the disturbing feeling that came over me when I first listened to this and it really doesn't matter whether you do or don't. This, more than Wright, more than anything, shook my respect for him.

Posted by: Rob | May 27, 2008 11:53 PM

Obama's desperation to connect himself with military service is beginning to wear on his integrity. How far will he stoop? It's time to question his judgement and leadership.

Posted by: Demo for Hillary | May 27, 2008 11:40 PM

Wow... wonder if there will be over 10,000 stories on this gaffe. Or another free pass for the king of the free passes. Well, excuse this if you must, but how do you excuse the orchestrated media/DNC gang bang on the most qualified candidate for president in 2008? You don't. Smash the glass ceiling. Vote against the DNC in November. Men who behave badly should not be rewarded.

Posted by: Mandelay | May 27, 2008 11:38 PM

"Guess what -- Bush isn't running for president this time. Your ignorant candidate is!"

Drunkenly typed by: SayNo2BHO | May 27, 2008 10:54 PM

Isn't that sweet, SayNo is drinking lots of Anheuser Bush beverages to help Cindy McCain pay for her painkiller addiction. And when Cindy is happy, John gets to use the company jet. You Republicans are really tricky !

Posted by: Bladerunner | May 27, 2008 11:19 PM

" Al Gore, who Republicans successfully tarred in 2000 "
No, the main stream media successfully tarred Al Gore, namely Maureen Dowd, Ceci Connelly, And Kit Seelye.

As for Obama's comments, the attacks come from racists who are trying to insinuate that Obama is a liar and illiterate.
I'd love to hear them say Buchenwald trhee times in a row.

Gen Patton referred to Obama in one of his 1944 speeches to his troops: 30 years from now when your grandchild asks what did you do during World War II, you won't have to say "Well, I shoveled sh*t in Louisanna."

Well, Obama's granddad did shovel, but I see that McCain's campaign does.

Posted by: Ted | May 27, 2008 11:11 PM

This is only 'news' because Obama is normally a wonderful speaker. It's like watching a great pitcher walk someone - it's unexpected. Bush and McCain can say anything, and it doesn't make 'news', because everyone knows they are idiots. They are like the drunken fans in the bleachers, who get an applause when they catch the Cracker Jacks box thrown to them.

When Bush said 'we found the mobile biological WMD labs' the reporters just moved on, since it was already clearly established that those 'mobile labs' only made hydrogen for weather balloons. When McCain confuses Iran and Saudi Arabia (Al Quida, Iran, Sunni, Shiites, Muslim extremists, what, Joe, help me out here), people realize he is the oldest man ever to run for President, and they are pleased he has the right part of the World, at least.

It's a question of expectations. Democrats are smart - so they are 'supposed' to get things right. They win Nobel prizes, and Oscars, and Pulitzers. Republicans are dumb (some of their aids are smart, but they are always in the shadows) - they run on emotional things (pride, fear) and how they would be fun to have a beer with. People let their many blunders slide.

Let's elect John McCain !! Not the DUMBEST guy in his class at the Naval Academy, but only three away...

Posted by: ex Republican | May 27, 2008 11:10 PM

Obama is the greatest.
He climbed 100 stories on 9-11 to save an injured bird.

Posted by: Whatever | May 27, 2008 11:00 PM

I'm sorry my sad right wing friends, but your day is done. Over. Your fanatics are being voted out of office one by one. Three big Congressional upsets in a row! And McCain has no chance. He's six points behind Obama now -- according to Gallup -- and there hasn't been a single negative ad run against him yet. As long as he insists on continuing this war and defends the Bush tax cut and economic policies he has no chance at all.

Posted by: DavidKnows | May 27, 2008 10:59 PM

Was there sniper fire or an assassination attempt involved? I guess Obama hasn't personally liberated a ethnic cleansing camp in Bosnia has he? Or has he? These guys have been campaigning too long. I don't know if it will ever stop but I fear running the government isn't going to be nearly as fun and they will just want to go running the around the country and maybe the world to get away from Washington D.C. anyway. What have we gotten out this campaign to truly tell whether someone can actually do the job of president and get good things done? The money could have been better spent actually working for people.

Posted by: Lynn E | May 27, 2008 10:58 PM


"Note that he pronounced 'Auschwitz' correctly, whereas the current President cannot even pronounce 'nuclear'. And

think about how often the two men use each word.)"

Guess what -- Bush isn't running for president this time. Your ignorant candidate is!

Posted by: SayNo2BHO | May 27, 2008 10:54 PM

A white uncle?

Again, the web of lies Obama is caught in. He claims he is black, ergo, no white uncle. Maybe nothing he says is true. Let's assume that to be case.

I'm ready to vote.

Posted by: | May 27, 2008 10:30 PM
Idiot. His mother is white. His mother's brothers would be white uncles.

See his bestseller book: "Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance". Barack can actually write books by himself, unlike McCain, who needs a 'coauthor' on every book.

I think you are NOT ready to vote, probably not ready to drive, and certainly not ready to contribute anything here except comic relief.

Posted by: IronGuy | May 27, 2008 10:53 PM

Obamas Uncle liberated it and Dick Cheneys uncle ran it. So what.

Posted by: Ben Matheny | May 27, 2008 10:51 PM

Well, it is correct that McCain went to Iraq, and as he said he walked down a street without any protection -- except for the 150 soldiers surrounding him. And McBush was absolutely right when he said that General Petraeus went out every day in an unarmoured Humvee. So what if Petraeus said that was... um, not true. Who would know better, McBush or that lying general?

Posted by: DavidKnows | May 27, 2008 10:50 PM

Obama, the Great Practitioner of "TRUTHINESS".

It may not be the actual facts, but it sounds good, and anyway you know what I mean, and well, part of what I said was right.............Stephen Colbert

Posted by: EDR | May 27, 2008 10:49 PM

When Obama laughs off attacks on himself, he's "taking the high road." When the Clinton's make light of their enemies, they're "playing some sort of card."

Stephanie in WV May 27th, 2008 10:39 pm ET

Special needs children should have exposure to the general education classroom otherwise these students do not get the education they are entitled to by the constitution. There are always teacher's aides in kindergarten classrooms to help with unruly children. This teacher is just inept and did not deserve a license in the first place.

Erica Hill
CNN May 27th, 2008 10:40 pm ET

Genevieve, even if this little boy was disturbing the class, this is NOT how that issue should be dealt with. My mother, sister and a number of my close friends are teachers - I can say with utter confidence they would NEVER treat a child like this, nor would they allow other students to do so. If true, this is beyond disturbing. Think of the "lesson" this teacher may have just given the children in this class!

Anderson Cooper
CNN May 27th, 2008 10:41 pm ET

sorry im late. the breaking news has me re-writing stuff as we go, so ive been kind of busy typing. great discussion on the blog

mat May 27th, 2008 10:42 pm ET
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A white uncle?

Again, the web of lies Obama is caught in. He claims he is black, ergo, no white uncle.

Maybe nothing he says is true. Let's assume that to be case.

I'm ready to vote.

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 27, 2008 10:45 PM

After five months of non-stop, exhausting campaigning, Obama mixed up 'Auschwitz' with
'Buchenwald', two notorious WWII concentration camps. Yawn.

(Note that he pronounced 'Auschwitz' correctly, whereas the current President cannot even pronounce 'nuclear'. And

think about how often the two men use each word.)

Here's just a TASTE of Bushisms, from a rested, coached W:

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? ... That's interesting. I hadn't heard

that." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Feb. 28, 2008

"Mr. Prime Minister, thank you for your introduction. Thank you for being such a fine host for the OPEC summit."

--George W. Bush, addressing Australian Prime Minister John Howard at the APEC Summit, Sept. 7, 2007

"As John Howard accurately noted when he went to thank the Austrian troops there last year..." --George W. Bush,

referring to Australian troops as "Austrian troops," APEC Business Summit, Sept. 7, 2007

"You helped our nation celebrate its bicentennial in 17 -- 1976." --George W. Bush, to Queen Elizabeth,

Washington, D.C., May 7, 2007

Posted by: Barbarian at your Gate | May 27, 2008 10:45 PM

One Word:


"Barry", has never even seen a Military Uniform!

Just an "EMPTY SUIT"! :-(

Posted by: SAINT---The | May 27, 2008 10:42 PM

Who gives a #$*@ if it's 'passed down over three generations'?! The point is the moron was looking for an easy way to make his VERY un-patriotic self seem like a patriot by using his family ties again. The fact that he screwed up shows that he obviously doesn't care enough about the story to learn the truth. I'm guessing this is a white grandfather of his, and probably the husband of the grandma he threw under the bus by labeling her a 'typical (racist) white woman'. If he has no respect for his own family's history, then he doesn't for this country's either. With his education, I would expect more from him (like basic research, perhaps?).

Posted by: Audre Schutte | May 27, 2008 10:41 PM

Karen, at least McCain goes to Iraq. Obama is basing his plans on conditions 2 years ago.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 27, 2008 10:40 PM

Why does the MSM allow Obama to get away with this kind of nonsense. When the MSM was out rattling saberes for the Iraq war, Obama refused to support George Bush. If we had followed his advice we would never have discovered Iraq's stockpile of phantom WMD weapons. Obama didn't believe that Saddam was the leader of Al Qaeda. Nither did Bush. But at least Bush and McCain and Hillary knew enough not to let the facts get in the way of a dirty little war for oil and the dollar. Even after the mission was accomplished, Obama refused to apologize for his stand against the war. Five years into this war of choice, Obama remains an opponent of the war. Can he be trusted to launch another war of choice to obliterate Iran.

All you have to do is look at his family history. His great uncle was a treacherous man. We now know he liberated the wrong concentration camp. It's not clear whether his grandfather liberated Europe or fought in the Pacific. Obama refuses to come clean on which front his grandfather fought in.

It is an outrage that Obama has made it this far. The press should stop giving him a free pass. Until he fesses up as to which his front his grandfather fought on - we have ample reason to suspect his family's alleged service to this country.

Posted by: manofpeace | May 27, 2008 10:40 PM

Remember Dan Quayle, he mis-spoke often, and you rode his career into the ground.

At least Obama can spell "Potato"

So there!!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 27, 2008 10:40 PM

I myself, didn't ever meet this particular uncle because i was busy snorting cocaine and smoking blunts and doobies at my liberal private college in north los angeles.

This is an equal opportunity country. If W can do it, so can Obama.

I vote for Obama. Black people always have the best weed.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 27, 2008 10:34 PM

A white uncle?

Again, the web of lies Obama is caught in. He claims he is black, ergo, no white uncle.

Maybe nothing he says is true. Let's assume that to be case.

I'm ready to vote.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 27, 2008 10:30 PM

Somehow the fact that McCain was shot down makes him a hero. Actually, not being shot down probably was better. But while he was in a POW camp he made anti-American statements and collaborated with his captors. He was brain-washed and has been a sleeper agent all these years, supported secretly by Communist agencies.

Wow, I made that up. Does that qualify me to be a Republican?

Posted by: DavidKnows | May 27, 2008 10:21 PM

What a catastrophe. Gotcha Obama. Your uncle liberated the wrong concentration camp. You grand father probably fought on the wrong front in world war 11. So what if they fought in the war and helped liberate Europe. We Gotcha Obama. Your great uncle should have stayed at home instead of liberating the wrong camp.
We know you're a secret muslim who attended the same church for twenty years. Gotcha. We also know you're a pointy headed elitist intelectual with an ivy league education. That should sink you. We're going to let everybody know.

We know you are unpatriotic. Why else would you have spoken up against the war in Iraq? So what if there were no WMD's. You wanted to give peace a chance. We should impeach you now. At least Hillary voted for the war and threatened to obliterate Iran. Eighty percent of Americans stood behind Bush and marched to war. Answer this Obama. Why did you refuse to join the parade. Where are your war making credentials. Down with Obama. If you elect this man, he has already promised to wage peace. Stop him now. Even though I am a democrat, I will not vote for a man who did not stand up for the war against Iraq. It's a dirty little war but it is the only war we have - except for Afghanistan. And Obama did not even want us to have that. Impeach him now.

Posted by: manofpeace | May 27, 2008 10:20 PM

I would like to hear the GOP comment on George W. Bush's grandfather, Prescott Bush, funding the Nazi war machine while Director of Union Banking Corp and involved with Consolidated Silesian Steel Company, Harriman 15 Corporation and Standard Oil - just to name a few.

Posted by: m | May 27, 2008 10:16 PM

So is Oprah going to have him on her show and he can explain that his books were just fabricated BS?

Posted by: No2BHO | May 27, 2008 10:13 PM

Both Hillary and Barack seem to 'misspeak' every time they turn around.

Ok. Will you still forgive them when they say they 'misspoke' about campaign promises that they cannot keep?

Posted by: Vetforall | May 27, 2008 10:11 PM

oh, wait... i also have an uncle, who, as the story we tell in our family goes; single handidly tore down the berlin wall one evening with his bare hands, and then locked himself in seclusion in the basement for 6 years.
I myself, didn't ever meet this particular uncle because i was busy snorting cocaine and smoking blunts and doobies at my liberal private college in north los angeles. Man, maybe if my father didn't abandon my mother within the first 2 years of marriage, i might have had a central family presence that would have allowed me to develop a relationship with this war hero. he might have even taught me how to bowl.

Posted by: fred | May 27, 2008 10:08 PM

That's right, it's just "family oral history" and we should just move on. Except that Obama's entire campaign is built upon the "fable" of his family's history. This goes to the root of all the "feeling" he expresses in describing his background. It's all as phony as his Auschwitz story.

At least McCain doesn't have to embellish his "heroics" with personal lies.

Posted by: dyinglikeflies | May 27, 2008 10:04 PM

You Barack haters need to quit hating. Seriously!

I think Barack meant to say that his parents sent him to concentration camp to help build up the memory skills he destroyed smoking the chronic.

Posted by: Toyota Merriweather III | May 27, 2008 10:03 PM

Barack Obama is like Eliot Spitzer - they both talk a good game, but are actually worse politicians as "reformers" than the old guard in Washington.

Posted by: Lashanda | May 27, 2008 10:01 PM

all obama's supporters here are so uneducated!!! i can see them wearing the low pants with metal belts and a gun in there boot. SCARRY.


Posted by: Anonymous | May 27, 2008 10:00 PM

"The incredible stupidity of some people who would actually think he purposely invented that story scares me, it's obvious the story was handed down over generations and most probably third hand to Obama."

Right, Larry. In fact, if you look at his comments, that's pretty much what he said, that it was family oral history.

Even the RNC has pretty much dropped it. Let's move on!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 27, 2008 9:59 PM

Sorry. This still isn't as bad as McCain not knowing the difference between Shia and Sunni. I mean, come on, the guy voted for the war, he should be able to keep the players straight.

Obama's was dumb, but not nearly as important.

Posted by: Susan | May 27, 2008 9:54 PM

Hey, remember when Obama and his 299 friends beat back the Persians? That was amazing!

Posted by: dyinglikeflies | May 27, 2008 9:50 PM

The RNC has shown they are primed and ready to pounce and shout at every opportunity.

The bigger news is how scared they are running right now that their flashpoint ignites before there is an opportunity to clarify. Obama was relaying a story - and not a first-hand one at that. This is no Sniper-fire folks.

Obama's team could have aggressively attacked Hillary for her latest insensitive remarks, but they took the high road and chose not to be distracted or consumed by them.

This is all the knee-jerking Repugnants have going right now - to play into fears and fan the flames. Scream foul and then watch the instant replay for a clarification. It will however make for weeks of ignorant bias on Fox News.

Posted by: DonJulio | May 27, 2008 9:42 PM

Obama is an extermely celever man, light years ahead of both mccsame and the clintons. I think he said it on purpose and if u r clever enough you will knwo why, if not don't bother cos u ain't clever enough.

he is a political savvy

Posted by: Mok, U.K | May 27, 2008 9:37 PM

Where is the outrage??? Where is the special comment from the bloviator-in-chief over at MSNBO, Keith Olbermann???

Gosh, forget about Hillary taking bullets in Bosnia. Just glad to find out that Barack Obama's uncle liberated Europe.

Posted by: Mimi Schaeffer | May 27, 2008 9:37 PM

Criticism of Obama regarding his family's participation in saving the Western world is unfair. Don't you remember in Independence Day, when he went into that spaceship and infiltrated the alien mother ship with Jeff Goldblum? That was awesome.

Posted by: dyinglikeflies | May 27, 2008 9:31 PM

There is no reason not to believe that one of Obama's relatives served in a unit that liberated a concetration camp. But the fact that Obama cannot get the name right leads one to conclude that Obama just recently became aware of the story.

Bill Clinton had the talent of coming up with anecdotes and stories at the right time to, in his words, "feel the pain" of the listening audience. Some of these were later proved to be not true At best, this Obama gaff is a poor attempt to emulate Bill Clinton. At worst, it is his version of Hillary Clinton's sniper fire story.

I am not sure if Obama can stand the scrutiny he will get in the next five months but McCain lacks a killer instinct. Can anyone win this election?

Posted by: danielhancock | May 27, 2008 9:29 PM

It's pathological pandering.
We're not ready for McCain yet. Let's take this thing to Denver and sort it all out.

Posted by: mediahack | May 27, 2008 9:29 PM

From what we know of Obama's position on war and tyrants, if he were President during WWII, his uncle never would have made it to Auschwitz or Buchenwald because Obama would be meeting and negotiating with Hitler?

Posted by: NVL3 | May 27, 2008 9:25 PM

Evidently the O-Man has no idea that the Soviets kicked the Nazis out of Poland. That's fine for a lawyer or an Illinois state legislature guy or maybe even (stretch here) a US senator. But for a president? NO.

Posted by: RepugMan | May 27, 2008 9:24 PM

That uncle would be the "typical white person"-s brother? and himself a "typical white person" too?

Posted by: RJB | May 27, 2008 9:24 PM

Oh look, Obama's trying to get the Jewish vote because he knows they don't trust him. What a manipulator. He is also trying to manipulate the disenfranchisement of 2 million voters in FL and MI like a thug politician. The Jews are not alone, I don't trust him either.

Posted by: Sal | May 27, 2008 9:23 PM

Haters and Extremist need to study American History and Our Founding Documents. You can't be an American and be Ignorant. America speaks to the Human Soul created by G'd as the Crown of Creation. The evolving standards of decency and social redeeming values are Supreme Court Law on much of which describes the application of our Constitution. If you Lie, you will Steal. If you Steal you will Kill. There is Life after the Primaries and General Election. Love and Moderation is appreciated even by Haters and Extremist. Take on the Most Important Job in the World, be a good Parent, Neighbor and American.

Posted by: Fareed | May 27, 2008 9:22 PM

why do we always resort to calling the opposing person dummies/uneducated, ect, ect?
bring out the facts without the blinders please

Posted by: Anonymous | May 27, 2008 9:22 PM

Wow, sometimes it's mind-boggling that even after all these slanders concerning Obama have been proven wrong uneducated people continue to repeat them, perhaps hoping to influence people even dumber than they are. There is a word for people like that: Republicans.

Are you allowed to call someone a Republican on TV?

Posted by: DavidKnows | May 27, 2008 9:20 PM


Posted by: Fred Sanford | May 27, 2008 9:14 PM

what is the problem with using a person's name?? it just enforces the notion that a person who grew up a muslim and learned in the madrasa and had a father and step father who were devoted muslims is not fit to be th epresident of the USA. especially not after 9/11

Posted by: Anonymous | May 27, 2008 9:09 PM

I originally felt after the massive troubles Bush has given this country that the Republican party would be self-correcting and call him out on the lies and the law-breaking.

Now that it's obvious a strong core of the party believes in Republicans, right or wrong, I would vote for anyone at all not on the Republican ticket. The feeling is just reinforced by the marching morons who need to resort to using Obama's middle name as though he had any control over it. The GOP is going to have to grow up.

I attribute a lot of this to the destructive, polarizing influence of Rupert Murdock's point of view machine that he is calling a news network, long after news people with integrity jumped ship. It's helping to destroy America by dividing us when in fact we have a lot in common.

Posted by: John | May 27, 2008 9:04 PM

The equation is breathtakingly simple. These people explaining why Obama is not qualified to be president are the same
people who explained why George Bush was qualified to be president. People like Limbaugh, Hannity and many of the racists who have stated their opinion here. They've proven their ignorance, so why should anyone pay attention to them?

Posted by: DavidKnows | May 27, 2008 9:03 PM

a president should talk the truth and not come up with stories that may sound good.
what a shame steve that your grandparents were in the camp and you don't even know which camp. are you one of the paid obama bloggers that comes up with stories??

Posted by: Anonymous | May 27, 2008 9:01 PM

Outrageous! Mistaking Auschwitz with Buchenwald... of all the nerve! Everyone who as at Auschwitz can tell you they were just dying to get in to Buchenwald.


Posted by: peter | May 27, 2008 8:58 PM

So Obama said:
"who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps"

and should have said:
"who was part of the first American troops to go into Buchenwald and liberate the concentration camps"

Wow. With only about 140 concentration camps that also had about 880 sub camps - all differently named 63 years ago, do you mean to tell me Obama doesn't know all their names? (I bet there's barely a soul in North America who does).

And Obama doesn't know each one his great uncle, who didn't like to talk about such things, saw when his General Patton not only liberated some of them but also oversaw all the camps in Germany at the end of the war and his soldiers were ordered to collect war cromes evidence from them??

And this critcism comes from the campaign who doesn't know the difference between Sunnis, Shiites and al Qaeda ? The same campiagn that doesn't know that Ahmadinejad doesn't control nuclear weapons or foreign policy in Iran ?

Four Pinnochios for Wash post's assessment of the severity.

Posted by: CWatson | May 27, 2008 8:57 PM

Thank you Steve, you are a light in a dark tunnel!

Posted by: Zack | May 27, 2008 8:54 PM

Hey Norm-al: I Hate to be the one to break it to you bubba, but Muslims are actually Americans too, just like oakies such as yourself! We are all one big hapy bucket of multi race/faith happiness...oops I think a black man is toutching your arm, watch your pockets!

Posted by: Zack the Mack | May 27, 2008 8:52 PM

Both of my maternal grandparents were in the Holocaust. I've dug deep, learning everything I could about their experience, yet I don't know the name of their camp. They didn't even know the name of their camp. It's not important.

I forgive Barack Obama for confusing Auschwitz-Birkenau with Buchenwald.

Posted by: Steve Charb | May 27, 2008 8:49 PM

Quote of the Year From The Audacity Of Hope... I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction. Senator Barack Hussein Obama
Quote of the Month: "My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it." - Senator Barack Hussein Obama

Reason Obama said he wanted to be President of ALL 57 states. Keep in mind U.S. doesn't have 57, but...ISLAM is what he is talking about!
Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) is an international organization grouping 57 states which have decided to pool their resources together, combine their efforts, and speak with one voice to safeguard the interests and secure the progress and well-being of their peoples and of all Muslims in the world.

President Obama A Victory For Islam

If Barack Obama Enters The White House, Islam Will Have Conquered The Heart Of American Civilization. Said; IsraCast, Menashe Amir an Israeli expert on Iran.

How does Iran view the possibility that Barack Hussein Obama, a former Muslim, might win the U.S. presidential election? Menashe Amir, an Israeli expert on Iran, says not only Iran but also the rest of the Muslim world, will view it as victory for Islam. In an interview with IsraCast, Menashe Amir quoted an important Iranian personality who declared: "If Obama enters the White House, Islam will have conquered the heart of American society!" However, President Ahmadinejad has said that he did not believe the U.S establishment would let Obama win. If Barack Hussein Obama wins the U.S. presidential election, Muslims will view it as a victory and forget that he converted from Islam to Christianity" - that's the view of Israeli analyst Menashe Amir. In fact one leading Iranian personality recently said: "If Obama enters the White House, Islam will have conquered the heart of American society.

BOYCOTT CNN & MSNBC for manipulating the Presidential election with the biased pushing of obama before researching.

Terrorist Group Hamas Wants Obama As President this post:

VOTERS DEMAND Obamas tell America about their relationship with Ayers, Gadaffi Syrian tycoon, Antoin Rezko, Saudi Arabian Scheiks and Nadhami Auchi, Iraqi billionaire, global arms dealer who was best friends with Saddam Hussein, and the main financial backer for Saddam's Iraqi -Saudi oil pipeline, and stood trial with Saddam Hussein for conspiring to assassinate Iraqi President Qasim. VOTERS are concerned why CNN & MSNBC refuse to question those relationships, coupled with Obama's 20 plus yrs with Rev. Wright shows a serious pattern, which Obama seems quite comfortable with people who really, really, really HATE U.S of America. If you question him or his values or policies, you're part of the "divisive, distracting" practices voters associate with Washington. Them's the Obama Rules.

Posted by: norm | May 27, 2008 8:48 PM

What a dumb @ass. Just what we need right now. Amateur hour foreign policy from a habitual bs-er

Posted by: greenfun | May 27, 2008 8:48 PM

Let's now respond to the notion that express knowledge of names of concentration camps bestows the requisite expertise to be able to give counsel as to how to lead the nation: If this is the case, let's be impartial: can Bush even spell 'foreclosure'? There are real issues here: I don't mind jesting etc... But this is not indicative of any serious treatment of issues at hand. Here is another name for 'concentration camps,' and no one people may lay claim that somehow their experience of this phenomena, no matter how perilous, sets them apart even if you be an authority on the matter. That name: Death!

The terrible experience of wholesale murder should not make anyone feel that they have any sort of special ability to dictate terms of a presidential election. This experience should result in increased freedoms, recognition that 'Never Again,' also means never again will we be subject to the type of ignorance which resulted in these atrocities in the first place. Obama and all black people in this country, are also victim of Holocaust, maybe not as widespread, but all you need to do is loose one life (that of yourself, or someone you love), to make all the difference in the world. Case in point continued dismissal of views claiming some sort of secret knowledge, or special position by virtue of the experience of mass death is no better than the "You aren't there, so you don't know," argument. Though I be not there, I am your brother, and I can know degrees of similitude, by virtue of which I am revealed as 'closer,' than I am 'far away.' Help, do not hurt! Remember kinship, and do not be afraid

Posted by: Zack the rebuffer of ignoramuses | May 27, 2008 8:47 PM

here is a quote from Barack Hussein Obama's book The Audacity Of Hope...
"I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." Senator Barack Hussein Obama

so how can we trust him to be resident???

Posted by: Anonymous | May 27, 2008 8:46 PM

But did he have to make a swervy landing and avoid sniper fire?

Posted by: Justin Tyme | May 27, 2008 8:44 PM

whole-heartedly agree

Posted by: to westattty | May 27, 2008 8:39 PM

the economy is so bad. we are at war we need a president that know what to do when he gets the 3am phone call. hussein obama doesn't.

Posted by: toZack the Mack | May 27, 2008 8:35 PM

No you, not now, not ever, as you do not even have a pen-name. Come hither from your ingnorant hidings!

Posted by: Zack the Mack | May 27, 2008 8:29 PM

How did affirmative action rid us of lynching or discrimination? It, of course, has expedited such processes through the jealousy felt by 'oakies,' lack of admission to major educational institutions. Again, Cain killed Able for this type of *(#^% (Figuratively, of course, lest all the GOP be swept up on tha rapture, and we liberal commie *( #&#'s be left behind)

Posted by: Zack the Mack | May 27, 2008 8:28 PM

no obama, not now not ever.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 27, 2008 8:28 PM

Specious speaks soundly: GOP Alert''' if you shoot a cat make sure to kill him or he may vote Obama - after all, all cat's are liberal commies and should all be samarily executed lest we succomb all become Nazis by virtue of slips of the tongue.

Posted by: Lack of Ignorance | May 27, 2008 8:24 PM


Obama's uncle helped liberate Auschwitz??? how would obama rememebr he was under the influence of drugs and then due to reverse discrimination was accepted to the best schools in the country. white people who should be accepted could not get in

Posted by: | May 27, 2008 8:12 PM "

I assume you refer to Whites who can actually spell and use proper punctuation? You clearly don't mean you and your cousin-marrying kind. The way you write, you couldn't get into an open admissions community college in West Virginia. That must be the black man's fault, too.

Posted by: dear mr. illiterate and angry white guy | May 27, 2008 8:24 PM

A few weeks back, there was talk of an un-moderated series of town-halls with McCain and Obama sharing the stage. I'll stipulate up front that my idea for this campaign will not be nearly as much fun as ridiculing and smearing the opposition candidate, and engaging in the constant hyperbole about how bad he (the other guy) really is, and what a bunch of morons his supporters really are.

But may I suggest that we consider doing it a little differently this time? Here's how:

Lets have those town-halls, but let's stipulate that the challenge to each candidate will be not to repudiate the other's position on a given issue, instead they will be charged with crafting a statement of common ground on which they can both agree. The format will be:

Step 1: members of the audience pose the questions, then each candidate has about 5 minutes to make his case for the best way to deal with it.

Step 2: the audience 'votes' (informally, by applause only) as to which case they preferred.

Step 3: the two candidates get 10 minutes to discuss and negotiate a simple statement of a solution they could both support, even if that solution is only a partial fix.

Step 4: A few folks from the audience get to stand up and make suggestions to improve the compromise. McCain and Obama can ammend it if they feel like it.

Step 5: The question is called, and the audience votes again on the solution, up or down, do we like it or not?

This idea is not without historical precedent, as evidenced by this excerpt from a letter written 216 years ago to each of two great American politicians who's bitter antagonism had reached an extreme:

"Having premised these things, I would fain hope that liberal allowances will be made for the political opinions of each other; and instead of those wounding suspicions, and irritating charges, with which some of our (news media) are so strongly impregnated, and cannot fail if persevered in, of pushing matters to extremity, and thereby to tare the Machine asunder, that there might be mutual forbearances and temporizing yieldings on all sides. Without these I do not see how the Reins of government are to be managed, or how the Union of the States can be much longer preserved."

I believe both John McCain and Barrack Obama are honorable and patriotic Americans. I disagree with both of them on some issues, and support both on some others. But I do believe that both men realize and agree that the problems facing our country at this moment are as severe as any in our history, in part because they are not just our problems, they are problems facing each of the 6.6 billion human beings who share this planet.

Alexander Hamilton and Thomas Jefferson were bitter rivals, and political opposites. But it can be argued that out of the compromises that George Washington (author of the above quote) asked of both of them came the foundations which enabled our nation not only to survive, but to thrive and become the greatest nation on earth.

Let McCain and Obama make their case on the issues, but without demonizing the other for the disagreements. Then let the voters decide in November which they favor, and let the outcome of that election be the measure of their mandate going forward.

To allow another 4 years to go by, wherein we refuse to confront the cancers which afflict this nation because we would rather see the opposition fail, than accept an imperfect compromise, does a disservice to those who made it possible for us to get this far, and risks much greater consequences for this country, which are now just around the corner.

Posted by: westattty | May 27, 2008 8:23 PM

How did affirmative action rid us of lynching or discrimination?

Posted by: to Zack | May 27, 2008 8:23 PM

with a law degree from an ivy school hussein obama should teach his "brothers" that carjacking, hold ups in 7 elevens and terrorizing california highways with random shooting is not the best way to get drugs.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 27, 2008 8:23 PM

that is the definition of the fake controversy here. As another reader observed, most of the haters on here couldn't tell the difference between birkenau and birkenstocks. The faux outrage is part of the time-tested GOP strategy of demonizing one's opponent. Yup, Obama mixed up Auschwitz and Buchenwald. McCain mixed up Iran and Iraq, Sunnis and Shiites, being for tax cuts, being against them, and so on and so on. It's o.k. this election will be fascinating. Will the old distract, divert and destroy tactics of the reich wing work this time? Not likely, since Obama, like Clinton before him and Reagan before him, is able to talk past the usual screens, in this case connecting to a huge new base of support, including an unprecedented 1.5 million donors. That is what terrifies the solipsistic haters so much, those who think a pithy response is to point out that Obama's middle name is Hussein, and screaming again and again "He's a liar." Vilification and vitriol as argument. You must be very proud of yourselves for the low level to which you sink. Too bad for you, your hate game will fail this time. Now go shoot a cat with your 2nd amendment gun, and give your cringing wife a good smack across the face for being a woman. It'll make you feel better about the 1/2 colored fella with the funny ears who is going to be president...

Posted by: specious | May 27, 2008 8:19 PM

Reverse discrimination, oh really, is that what we now call merrit based admision to university (Now is the time for one of you less than educated folks to take a crack at trying to demonize affirmative action as being the reason for Obama's education). I feel that you are hurt for not being let into an Ivy league school, well better than being lynched, disenfranchised, hung, or worse. When will some people realize that they have it pretty damn good! You didn't get when your stats are stronger! You, in reallity, should want this man as your commmander and chief, after all, he's obvoiusly smarter than you

Posted by: Zack the Mack | May 27, 2008 8:19 PM

Obama's uncle helped liberate Auschwitz??? how would obama rememebr he was under the influence of drugs and then due to reverse discrimination was accepted to the best schools in the country. white people who should be accepted could not get in

Posted by: Anonymous | May 27, 2008 8:12 PM

After 400 years of slavery, indentured servitude, less-than recognition, Jim crow, ignorance, literacy tests: mother (^#% the white people! The truth is, they don't like us. I am a mixed man and feel this a fair statement, I have a degree in Western Philisophy, and I'll be G-d damned if some ol snow-flake cares if I like her, fact of the matter: when I walk by, this *(%#$ will move her purse to the other side. Craka-jacka'

Posted by: Zack the Mack | May 27, 2008 8:12 PM

the notion that because Bush has lied to us and therefore Obama can do so is stupid.
if we can prevent another one of these liars from becoming president is the ideal.
to caste aside Obama's tendency to use this incident, as well as others, to just advance his campaign is a mistake.
i agree that our standing in the international scene has taken a major hit. But to just assume that electing ANYONE into the presidency and our economy, war, ect is going to go away is faulty.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 27, 2008 8:08 PM

Obama's frequent exaggerations and outright distortions raise questions about his judgment and his readiness to lead as commander in chief

Posted by: NINA | May 27, 2008 8:07 PM

Obama's uncle helped liberate Auschwitz; now that's a classic! Let's see the Clinton bloggers jump on this one after the Obama bloggers tore Clinton apart over her snipper fire.

Obama should absolutely know the difference in the Nazi camps. After all, he's running for the highest office of our country. He is a crook, a liar and we cannot destroy our country by electing him. Of course the fact that Hamas, Fidel and most all of our enemies like and want Obama as the leader of the U.S. should tell you something about this man. He is not a true patriot. Read his first book: his heart and mind is a Kenya, as are his brothers and sister and aunts and uncles. He does not like the white people. Read his first book.

Posted by: Millie Burt | May 27, 2008 8:07 PM

Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it. Obama has made numerous factual gaffes such as this and yet he delivers them in a stentorian voice with a delusional sense of self confidence. Does anybody remember Ted Baxter?

Posted by: TonyD | May 27, 2008 8:06 PM

this auschwitz story is very typical of obama.stories stories stories without any substance.
these stories fit rev wrights audience but not poeple who are very serious about electing the next president of the GREAT USA THAT WE ARE SO PROUD TO BE PART OF

Posted by: mccain republicans | May 27, 2008 8:04 PM

Im dun my best to mis-spell this mussage, so that it will be eeezier to understan by de majority of your users and voters. But we should ALL be greatful to Obama cos he broke GODWIN'S LAW! So now, we can all stop talking about the "US Presidential Election" topic, and move on to something more worthwhile!

Posted by: Britt | May 27, 2008 8:03 PM

Oh this is all some absurd Goebbels logic that try's to get the masses confused with some other poppycock. Maybe Lenin. W??

Now I'm confused.

Posted by: Bob | May 27, 2008 8:01 PM

I am sure all of those posters who are apoplectic about Obama's mistakenly talking about an uncle liberating Auschwitz can easily tell the difference between:


and the dozens more that existed in Europe, Africa, and elsewhere.

In fact, I dare one of you to post a quiz on the major camps, and see just how many of these posters know, for instance, which of the list above were liberated by whom.

Posted by: | May 27, 2008 7:58 PM

This is such a non-story as to be laughable. The notion that Obama's story is any less credible because he swapped two different WW2 camp names is b.s. I'm a 36 year-old who paid marginal attention in high school history class. Even I recognize Buchenwald as the name of a concentration camp as much as Auschwitz. Obama had nothing to gain by deliberately swapping the names. This won't stop Republi-bots from mindlessly jumping on this as another smear tactic.

The opposition needs to wrest control of this country from the greedy, misguided hands of the GOP. Talk about "fiddling whilst Rome burns". They refuse to allow the political dialogue in this country to raise to the level of things that really matter. I'm sickened to see such a cynical band of people tarnish our standing in the world, allowing their war-mongering and short-sighted worldview to bankrupt and alienate us.

Remember SEVEN short years ago? When just about every other nation was in complete solidarity with us in our time of need? When our economy was strong?? Compare that to now... it's simply disgusting. If you think none of that change is a direct result of Republican policies of the past 8 years, then you need to wake the heck up.

I'm dismayed that anyone who backs GW could be so grotesquely hypocritical as to accuse Obama of a lack of either integrity or intelligence. I look forward to the day when I can once again take pride in my country's policies and President.

Posted by: Mike in SF | May 27, 2008 7:58 PM

To all those offended by critics of Obama's gaffe:
This article was about Obama's mistake - not everyone else's
They will have/have had their time in the spotlight, but this current exchange is with Obama's gaffe - not Bush's grandfather, Hillary's gaffe, or even McCain's..

Posted by: Anonymous | May 27, 2008 7:55 PM

Zack the rebuffer of ignoramuses


Posted by: Anonymous | May 27, 2008 7:55 PM

hussein obama saw his best days. it is down hill from here. hold on to your breaches

Posted by: revwrong | May 27, 2008 7:54 PM

hey proudtobejewish, i thought i left you out in the desert for a reason. how did you find your way back into town? damn!

Posted by: moses | May 27, 2008 7:53 PM

Proudtobe...what? You are a disgrace to the tolerant position of the learned, philosophical tradition which you so askew, regardless of your genes! Again Judaism is a faith of tolerance and understanding, not ridiculous stabs at others ethnicities. You should be proud-to-keep-ignorant-slanderous-commentary-to-yourself. Several eons prior to your invitation to the commentator regarding climbing trees, we were all homogenous, nucleic soup. Read some more, think some more, and never think that your are being attacked anti-semiticly, simply because of your inflamed ignorance and amazing hubris

Posted by: Zack the rebuffer of ignoramuses | May 27, 2008 7:53 PM

Yep,the republicans got their panties all in a twist because Obama mixed up the name of the concentration camp. Yet, they never said a peep about the fact that Republican Sen. Prescott Bush, (our current president's grandfather) was the owner of a bank which helped finance the Nazi's and their rise to power.

So while Obama's relatives were helping liberate the peoples of Europe from concentration camps, Bush's were helping finance the Nazis build them.

Posted by: lawboy | May 27, 2008 7:50 PM


If you can't figure out if I know how to read how did you even find this website?

Posted by: Bob | May 27, 2008 7:49 PM

we are the chosen people. if you knew to read instead of listening to rev wright you would know it

Posted by: proudtobejewish | May 27, 2008 7:48 PM

"why doen't she go back to africa and climb the trees. proudtobejewish"

Well, almost all of them are. There are one or two I am suspicious of.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 27, 2008 7:48 PM

bob i know that you are stupid. do you know to read???

Posted by: proudtobejewish | May 27, 2008 7:47 PM

why doen't she go back to africa and climb the trees.

Why don't you go back to the desert and do another 40 years.

Posted by: Moses | May 27, 2008 7:46 PM

obama is a liar. nothig will help him he is toast - mccain will win the elections

Posted by: niel | May 27, 2008 7:45 PM

proudtobejewish...I thought you said you were smart?

Posted by: Bob | May 27, 2008 7:44 PM

That was just a little mix up on Obamas part, and a storm brewed up, but our current president(Bush) has outright lied to us publicly on a few occasions, and its forgottened and forgiven by some.

Posted by: MidwestAverageJoe2 | May 27, 2008 7:44 PM

Bolver - McCain has the more troubling history to explain. McCain told us that Iraq would be "easy" and that "we will be greeted as liberators". In fact, he has a long history of flip-flopping, misremembering and waffling.

The truth is Obama had an uncle who served honorably and was clearly damaged by the horrors he saw. It's pathetic that you are so desperate to win you would mock that.

Attacking Obama for not serving in the military, when we have a president whose records show he went AWOL is the height of hypocrisy.

Posted by: Bart | May 27, 2008 7:43 PM

If Obama can shamelessly lie about something his uncle supposedly did over 60 years ago then he can lie about anything. I know nothing about this man other than his lies. I think he is black but I am not even sure of that.

I'm voting for McCain. I haven't a clue what he believes in but at least he doesn't lie about what prisoner-of-war camp he was in.

Posted by: Patrick | May 27, 2008 7:43 PM

the jewish people are too educated and too smart to be fooled by obama's story about his uncle liberating auschwitz.
his uncle and family are anti semite - hate jews hate america and i am very nervous that obama got so far in this election. michelle obama was so truthful when she admittewd that she was never proud of america - why doen't she go back to africa and climb the trees.

Posted by: proudtobejewish | May 27, 2008 7:42 PM

All you Obama crackpots are hysterical when Clinton makes an ACCURATE and innocuous RFK reference, but when your Savior exploits a gruesome historic tragedy for political gain, and doesn't even have the facts right, it's no big deal. Because for you cultists to admit Obama is a fraud, your small empty pathetic lives would crumble.

Posted by: Ignorant Obama does it again | May 27, 2008 7:38 PM

The reason it was wrong is because he has been much more interested in his FATHER"S African and Kenyan background and history then his "mother's race" and American and Europeon history! WHY does he not run for President in Kenya and join his rebel fighting brother! Go back to Chicago!

Posted by: DEM to IND | May 27, 2008 7:37 PM

which uncle liberated auschwitz??? the muslim arab??? this will not help him get the jewish vote. it just proves that he is a liar Re other issues as well

Posted by: whataliar | May 27, 2008 7:35 PM

I think everyone should focus on Mr. Obama's subject at hand. I am a very patriotic person, but our country should be ashamed of the amount of programs and money cut from the VA. It has been going downhill for years, but from reports now aired on television and interviews conducted of our returning troops, the lack of health care through the VA has deteriorated even more. Will someone please do something to help these unfortunate wounded (physically and mentally) men and women who are doing their duty for our country?

Posted by: berryblossom | May 27, 2008 7:34 PM

It's truly a wonder that anyone wants to run for president. So this fall is going to amount to 'I'll meet you one crazy pastor and raise you 2 senior moments and a verbal gaffe.' Sure hope we can get down to some genuine policy debates before long.

I sincerely hope that Obama can withstand the onslaught of sleeze and lies that is already flowing his way on the Internet. I think he's a class act, but his enemies sure aren't.

Posted by: Michael | May 27, 2008 7:34 PM

Hmm, curious we never heard about this "heroic uncle" before.

This "story" comes out just as Obama has been trying to win the Jewish vote.


Posted by: Obama doesn't know the number of U.S. states | May 27, 2008 7:33 PM

...and do not think you are cleaver for correcting grammer (I full well can admit my flaws, and I am a liberal with guns)Go Obama

Posted by: Peace at a cost | May 27, 2008 7:33 PM

My initial impression is that Obama was using his uncle's story to try and give himeself some experience with war. I think it was just a convenient way for him to use this incident. Otherwise he would have gotten his facts straight - It can't be that his uncle told the extended family the wrong camp all this time - more likely Obama has never paid attention to it in the past. Now that he is running to become PotUS, he needed something to personally link himself with some war scenerio on Memorial Day - giving him validation.
my 2 cents

Posted by: initial impression | May 27, 2008 7:32 PM

good grief. Does the right wing have little guys with pocket protectors and internet access following Obama around all the time? Was this the best thing they could find was that he mixed up the names of two concentration camps? Its not as though he was making up his uncle serving or having the experience.

and where the heck were these guys when we needed them to uncover all those untruths told by the Bush administration? Goodness. If they had been so vigilante then we might not have lost over 4000 lives and be in a recession. Never have has this nation see so many untruths and half truths as this administration has foisted on us in the last 8 years. Its disgusting.

Posted by: Annie | May 27, 2008 7:32 PM

I'm sorry, I do not remember Dan Quayle... oh yeah that's what happens to those who don't matter! By the way, should you want a hypocritical stament, look no further tha, "Mission Accomplished." Fool!

Posted by: Zack the rebuffer of ignoramuses | May 27, 2008 7:31 PM

Relax you Obama Toadies!

You need not be concerned that Obama is so immature that he doesn't know the American flag code, and he doesn't know how many states there are in the US, and he doesn't know what policies are Republican or which ones were implemented by the Democratics. Obama will mesh right in with the Old Boys Network!

You think Obama is going to be different from the other old boys in Washington? Oh, to be young & politcally naive.

#1. John McDonough, Health Care For All's Executive Director announced he is stepping down from his position to accept a job as Senior Advisor to Senator Edward Kennedy on national health reform! Well, fancy that! It is called quid pro quo! I scratch Obama's back - Obama scratches my back! MEOW ~

(Many people who are very knowledgable about the health care fiasco claim that Kennedy put the kebosh to health care due to pettiness when he was a young Senator trying to make a name for himself. )

#2. Hoffa agreed to work for Obama, only after Obama made the public statement that government regulation was no longer necessary to monitor the Teamsters Union. Hoffa has worked very hard as a Bundler for Obama. How do you think Obama is getting all the $$$$$ and the support from the old-boy's?

#3. Obama VOTED "YES" in support of Cheney's Energy Bill that was developed with the help of the OIL COMPANIES who are now reaping higher profits than ever reported in history. Check out the oil companies supporting the Obama campaign!

Obama likes to claim that his money comes from first time voters. The Washington Post wrote an article on Obama's "Bundlers."

Google - The Washington Post Staff Story of 4/11/08. "Big Donors Among Obama's Grass Roots 'Bundlers' Have a Voice in Campaign," By Matthew Mosk and Alec MacGillis Washington Post Staff Writers Friday, April 11, 2008; A01.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 27, 2008 7:30 PM

Obama is vile to exploit the horrors of the Holocaust for his own political gain.

He knows the Jews can't stand him and don't trust him, and has been transparently and embarrassingly trying to weasel their vote. How about the other day when he said his name sounded like the Hebrew name "Baruch" and that his name means blessed. It was embarrassing to watch.

Is there nothing Obama will stop at?

If this were Clinton, she'd be tarred and feathered by now.

How does Obama like a taste of his own medicine? His campaign goes around making mountains out of molehills when other candidates misspeak. Yet, they whine when the media appropriately gives even the mildest attention to Obama's blunders.

Obama's blunders, however, are always much worse than anyone else's.


Posted by: Obama is a disgusting opportunist | May 27, 2008 7:30 PM

What a bizarre group of blog posters.

No one knew who Obama was a year ago? No one? Everyone who saw his speech at the 2004 Democratic convention quickly knew who he was.

Dan Qualye comparisons? Come on. Dan was a so-so student at best, and went to a third tier law school - Indiana University - Purdue University at Indianapolis IUPUI (main Indiana law school is at Bloomington.) Barrack went to Harvard law, top of his class, law review editor. No comparison.

Big gaff -- no a most a minor memory lapse. Did you all jump on Reagan when he "remembered" being in WWII? (He was in Hollywood the whole time.)

If this is all the greedy right can conjure up, I'm a happy man.

Posted by: Old Man CA | May 27, 2008 7:30 PM

If your father or grandfather liberated a concentration camp - don't you think you would and should know that story forwards and backwards? Wouldn't you be proud to know the tale inside and out? Wouldn't you be ashamed to not get the story right when recounting it to friends? To strangers? Shakespeare's Henry the Fifth suggested such men as Obama's uncle would "be in their flowing cups freshly remembered". Yet Obama, gets it wrong. And has repeated this Auschwitz claim previously. Obama does not know his history. He does not know his uncle's story. All he really remembers is his uncle in the attic for six months. A great man liberated captives. And Obama concentrates on the hero in the attic. A perfect candidate for the youthful, useful idiots of the democratic party.

Posted by: Joseph Iruku | May 27, 2008 7:29 PM

Here we go again.........Barack Hussein is full of s...tories, but no substance.
He will do or say whatever he has to to take over the United States Government. He now wears a flag pin and his uncle Jeremiah Wright liberated the concentration camps in Auschwitz.

Here we go again........take a look at his real family's agenda:

Posted by: Manolete | May 27, 2008 7:28 PM

It now has made Buchenwald a news item and a name most Americans didn't even know until this day.

(Yes, I see the glass as half full.)

Posted by: cowboy | May 27, 2008 7:28 PM

Obamas uncle should have been with Hillary ducking bullets.Oh no that was Bosnia. I guess old Johm is the only one who can tell authentic war stories and knows what it takes to end one. It definitely not pulling your troops out of a war zone in six months and declare victory unless your absolutely sure you will not have to go back like senior Bush. Victory is the only solution .

Posted by: gar | May 27, 2008 7:26 PM

Well, now we know the rules for sure in John McCain's clean campaign. John makes goofs, gaffes and mayhem at least once a week and he's had it pretty easy. Now we know how they want to play it, so everybody keep your eyes and ears open and all you Iraq historians keeps sharp too. And veterans. And single moms with no insurance and two jobs. And well, everybody except the three people left in America who think the Bush/McCain duo are doing a good job and we should go for a third term with them. The gloves are off. Let's see who can keep up best: the guy who was the president of the Harvard Law Review or the guy who barely made it through at the bottom of the class because his dad and grandpa were big wigs. Now we know the rules.

Posted by: karela | May 27, 2008 7:26 PM

Obamas uncle should have been with Hillary ducking bullets.Oh no that was Bosnia. I guess old Johm is the only one who can tell authentic war stories and knows what it takes to end one. It definitely not pulling your troops out of a war zone in six months and declare victory unless your absolutely sure you will not have to go back like senior Bush. Victory is the only solution .

Posted by: gar | May 27, 2008 7:26 PM

I did find Senator Obama's "Auschwitz" statement shocking: not only has the man little education, not to have personally known that the Red Army liberated that camp. Which sadly follows the pride that Americans have in thinking that all history is bunk. But also of his appalling grammar; an educated person would have said "an uncle". When will the US get a president who can speak proper English? No wonder the US is slipping down and down.

Posted by: Britt | May 27, 2008 7:26 PM

Obama mis-speaks and it is okay. Bush mis-speaks and it is a national crisis. Which is it progressives?

Remember Dan Quayle, he mis-spoke often, and you rode his career into the ground.


Posted by: Bolverk | May 27, 2008 7:25 PM

The Romans, in their incredulous inability to accept the 'barbarous hordes,' desire for full recognition as Romans, arrogantly thought that they could withstand the inevitable tide of change; they were crushed by their own hubris! Lest the contemporary affiliates of such flawed reason be counted amongst those too thick to realize that change is coming weather they like it or not, such beings may want to consider something like Hume's inductive fallacy: That a thing has not been observed before, or has not yet occurred, does not mean that it cannot or will not!

Relax, change occurs with, or with out your consent. Like Curtis Mayfield said in reference to such feeble minded positions who try to isolate and preserve a way of privilege beyond the natural call for change: "I would say, and I'm sure most of you would say, we don't give a damn, we're a winner anyway." We're movin' on up with or without you!

Posted by: Lack of Ignorance | May 27, 2008 7:23 PM

let's get it over with & ask likud to pick our next president -- after all, likud runs our foreign policy

Posted by: herbert de turbot | May 27, 2008 7:23 PM

Let's all please remember that Georgie-Boy has told more than a "few" horrible lies and made a "few" blunders over time. Let's all remember that McCain has as well. Let's all remember that every politician has made a mistake. Obama was checked on his blunder and he apologized. I would say the apology speaks louder than the mistake. How many times has Bushy said sorry for the WMD lie? NONE.

Posted by: Adrienne | May 27, 2008 7:22 PM

wow, he got the wrong name of the concentration camp? This is PROOF that this man is dangerous.

Who is stupid enough to think he was misleading people? What did he have to gain by changing Buchenwald to Auschwitz/

They must not have internet in trailer parks.

In the meantime, we have certified war criminals running our country, ruining our economy, stealing soldiers and their family's lives for oil and power, but that's ok.

Are you people ignorant enough that a sick, stupid man can say God, Guns and Terror over and over and you support him?


Posted by: Nick Weston | May 27, 2008 7:22 PM

We all so busy trying to find fault with to use it for own advantage..
the people who served this country got left behind...soldiers coming home with PTSD and being ignored by the military, country and society, is it no wonder , the recruiters having trouble enlisting anyone.

Posted by: Mary Lawson | May 27, 2008 7:21 PM

I think he was threatening Senator Lieberman. He should drop out. He's a psycho.

Posted by: MereMortal | May 27, 2008 7:21 PM

um.. why is this news? In a day when the media does nothing to question lies about weapons of mass destruction and a million other things that have an impact on the life and/or death of thousands of our soldiers and millions in the middle east, why are we talking about Obama getting his concentration camp names mixed up. McCaine doesn't know his sunni's from his shia.. and people think he's ready to solve the problems in the middle east? Clinton apparently doesn't know what sniper fire is.. although apparently she's been in it.. although no one else with her at the time was in it.. must have been very localized sniper fire.

Posted by: normal person | May 27, 2008 7:21 PM

Obama mixed up his concentration camps, either because he was told the story wrong by grandma, or because he mixed it up himself, or because it was a deliberate attempt to get people to recognize a name when "Buchenwald" is not widely known.

Whatever the reason, here's how this article makes me feel.

Title: "What's up - did Obama finally say something really stupid"
Body: "What? He mixed up names of concentration camps, but the story is all true apart from that? Uhhhh, where's the story here"
Reflection after reading: "holy cow - this makes the Obama criticizers look like real idiots, and is giving Obama press, and makes Obama come off looking better, his criticizers are making him look good!"

Posted by: AussiePunk | May 27, 2008 7:19 PM

It is exactly this kind of "Gotcha" politics that so many people, including myself, are completely tired of. Obama mis-spoke, but the conservative base and the press are going to hammer away at it like it was the end of the world, in the hopes of painting him as a shameless liar, when anyone with just an ounce of perception will take it for what it really was: nothing but a minor gaffe.

So, keep it up you goofball Obama haters. This kind of behavior only cements my determination to vote for Obama, and I know I am not alone in that respect!!

Obama '08!!!

Posted by: Geekmoid | May 27, 2008 7:19 PM

Reminds me of another Senator who ran for President and claimed that he spent Christmas in Cambodia.

Posted by: Max | May 27, 2008 7:19 PM

When the pundits have to rely on the populace's knowledge of non-U.S. history, you know they're in trouble. Did his uncle not help liberate a concentration camp? Did he not serve in the division Obama listed? What's the difference if it was Auschwitz or Buchenwald?

Posted by: JP | May 27, 2008 7:18 PM is that we Americans think these types of gaffs worth the time?

I'm voting for a Democrat, and if that is Barack Obama then so be it.

At least I'll know what the toe tapping Republican propagndists tools will be HOLLERING about for the next week or so. I suppose it's the classic response of the fossilized right-wing status quo. Create a grotesquely distorted caricature, broadcast the delusion at the top of your lungs, and hope that you manage to reinforce just enough cynicism and hopelessness to ensure the election of someone who truly cares only for funneling all of the country's wealth and power into the hands of a tiny, corrupt elite.

It's posty versus propagandists, almost good versus evil.

I hope the Democrats win in 08......

Posted by: ApostasyUSA | May 27, 2008 7:18 PM

It is very unfortunate that The Republican machinery is so eager to paint a picture of Senator Obama as a distrotionist. I have seen no evidence of that throughout the campaign. It is perfectly natural for any man or woman to make as simple a mistake as naming the wrong camp. This is not a distortion of the facts and he relayed a story that in substance is absolutely true. Alex Conant now looks stupid for releasing his categorical and defamatory comment. He should have done his homework. This is not the kind of simple mistake that makes Senator Obama look bad. Contrast this to Senator Hillary Clinton's vivid recollection of how she had to avoid enemy fire in Bosnia - a totally fabricated story. Senator McCain's straight talk express is rather desperate.

Posted by: Shekar Swamy | May 27, 2008 7:17 PM

Politically, I line up on the right side of the aisle.

Yet, I do not see any conspiracy by Sen. Obama to gain extra notoriety by invoking the name of "Auschwitz."

People make honest mistakes. It happens. Anyone ever watched a blooper reel? I think that same can be said of Clinton and her RFK remark.

Gimme a break that it was some sly reference to wishing harm on Obama. Puuuhleeese!

I thing both sides are so rabid to make their points they lose sight of common sense and will twist anything to their advantage. To me, that is sickening.

We all want the truth and then be able to make our own decisions based on it. It would sure make things a lot simpler instead of the "spin zone" happening on both sides. Sigh.

Label me "tired of the politicos"

Posted by: MarkA | May 27, 2008 7:16 PM

"Barack Obama must be the most gaffe-prone politician in memory," reports PowerLine.

Not a font large enough to laugh that commentary off the internet.

Posted by: please | May 27, 2008 7:16 PM

but it was his uncle.....uncle Joe Stalin

Posted by: TIM | May 27, 2008 7:15 PM

Obama's critics should read Lucinda Franks' excellent memoir, "My Father's Secret War," and then tell us if getting the names mixed up somehow minimizes the horror of what U.S. troops encountered at Ohrdruf (bodies piled like cordwood, some still twitching). If this latest fracas tells us anything, it is that the Republican are desperate.

Posted by: sn | May 27, 2008 7:15 PM

It's odd that people jump on this and ignore things like McCain mixing up recent history, like who the Shias and Shiites are. People make mistakes. Doesn't make them evil, unless we see a consistent pattern of lying steadily to the people, and those folks are already in office.

Posted by: John | May 27, 2008 7:14 PM

I would like to reiterate what "a reader" said above, "The fact remains, Sen Obama's great uncle was a war veteran, he helped liberate a concentration camp."

In my opinion this is a beautiful day. We have seen what the RNC has, and it is pretty impotent.

I am a "Veteran for Obama", and I think it is disgraceful that the RNC would diminish the contribution of Obama's uncle. He should be honored for his service to our Country.

Posted by: Veterans for Obama | May 27, 2008 7:14 PM

A family history can get confusing. He didn't lie he made an honest mistake. No big deal IMO.

Posted by: Mike | May 27, 2008 7:14 PM

Puck these Refublican hypocrites

Posted by: Bob in the hills | May 27, 2008 7:13 PM

Hilarious. Look at me, I have credibility... I didn't serve my country and neither should you - at least not in the military. I have an uncle... aaahhh, a great uncle who liberated auschwich... or was it some other camp? He then came home and worked through his problems in the attic, instead of having a liberally educated shrink to help him through the horrors of war which I will never know because instead of serving this country I was busy smoking hippie lettuce and doing blow in my dorm room at the most liberal private university in southern california... Once I am coronated messiah of this country, you will finally see... Michelle will be proud of all of you.


Posted by: fred | May 27, 2008 7:13 PM

Is this like when Arnold Swarzenneger claimed at the RNC to have seen Soviet tanks rolling through his hometown in Austria?

Posted by: Gary | May 27, 2008 7:11 PM

Which one of the 57 states was he in when he made this gaffe?

Posted by: Slim | May 27, 2008 7:10 PM

Here is something to think about.

Maybe Obama is so smart, he slips in a mistake or two on purpose. Just so hot heads, and pundits can later choke on their own words!

Don't smack everything with a stick, and maybe they won't blow up in your face so often!

Posted by: cyberbian | May 27, 2008 7:10 PM

One in a long, long series of gaffes. If only Dan Quayle had gotten off so easily.

On that note, didn't Democrats also complain about Quayle's inexperience, since he'd only been in Congress for 12 years before becoming VP? That's about six times as long as Obama, and Quayle wasn't even running the show.

Posted by: Matt | May 27, 2008 7:08 PM

The Black Man's Free Pass:

Do not pass go

Do not collect $200

Go Straight to Jail

...fear is an illness, but then again you probably have health insurance to cover that!

Posted by: Zack the Mack | May 27, 2008 7:08 PM

It wasn't a mistake. He used Auschwitz because people think of that as the worst. So busy calling Bush a liar, and yet fail to see actual lies.

Posted by: Pop | May 27, 2008 7:08 PM

Americans used to express intense outrage at profane or apathetic references to the holocaust and the loss of its victims. Today's burgeoning growth of anti-zionist sentiments in government and popular media arouses great concern among the traditional stakeholders in America's power coalitions. That concern can reasonably be stoked by this latest evidence of Obama's callousness toward Jewish pain. Whether or not it was intentional doesn't ease the concern about where Obmama's passions are capable of being led.

Posted by: Reinforces | May 27, 2008 7:06 PM

I think I just fell asleep. Is this the most interesting thing The Trail could come up with. Zzzzzz

Posted by: CJackson | May 27, 2008 7:06 PM

Obama was trying to capitalize on people recognizing the name Auschwitz. He got caught and had to correct himself. He is constantly having to modify his statements, because he "misspoke" or whatever. He is trying to cater to whatever audience his is in front of at the time, then someone else hears it and he gets called on it. Just like the gun toting, bible hugging comment in San Francisco. That was a moment of truth that got out when he didn't want it to.

Posted by: LiveWire11C | May 27, 2008 7:05 PM

A forgiveable error, not at all a lie. The substance of what he said was true.

We need to quit with the gotcha politics of distraction, except when politicians deliberately lie, as Hillary Clinton did about coming under fire.

Posted by: gg | May 27, 2008 7:05 PM

Mr. Obama, Just got the names wrong. We all do it, so what!.
NOW, when Mrs. Clinton does it, all hell breaks loose from the Obama camp. Double standard, you bet your last dollar.
Do you realize that last year at this tme; NO one had ever heard of Barack Obama. See
what billions of George Soros' money can do!

Posted by: nmrabbit | May 27, 2008 7:05 PM

I guess Obama gets a free pass for everything he does. He has a racist pastor, hates America and makes up facts. Amazing how people are so willing to follow blindly. When he raises taxes out of "fairness" as he puts it who will you blame? I guess the RNC will be to blame instead of the media and people who are completely snowed by this lair. He is going to do great harm to this country, but that is what he and his wife want to do.

Posted by: nookly23 | May 27, 2008 7:04 PM

I'd rather a black man with white lies than anyone else with black truth.

Posted by: Zack the Mack | May 27, 2008 7:04 PM

Conservatives would know. They bitterly remember the day they had to surrender to the Red Army.

Posted by: Joel | May 27, 2008 7:03 PM

So it's wrong for the republicans to focus on something that Obama was using to persuade people? Republicans didn't make it into political football, they just tried to recover a fumble.

Posted by: Pop | May 27, 2008 7:02 PM

Obama should be proud of the service his family has done, but lets face it, Auschwitz is more recognizable then Ohrdruf, so if he gets caught oopps its a slip. The polititions lie to us everyday and we just sit back and take it. Well maybe it was this or maybe it was that. This is the worst political climate I have witnessed in my 40 years... it saddens me. Now show me someone who can lower the price of gas.. That would be worth a vote.

Posted by: ugh | May 27, 2008 7:02 PM

He made a mistake. We all do. This is not even worth reporting.

Posted by: John Biggs | May 27, 2008 7:02 PM

The very new "blogosphere" was newly minted under Bush and his administration. Liberals haven't tasted their man under the microscope. I hope Obama wins. It's gonna be fun as hell.

Posted by: Joseph Iruku | May 27, 2008 7:02 PM


Posted by: Adam S | May 27, 2008 7:01 PM

Barack Obama deserves to be proud of his great uncle and the fact that he was involved in liberating a concentration camp any concentration camp! The gaffe is nothing compared to not knowing a Sunni from a Shia and I will give John Mc Cain a pass on that lack of understanding.

I wont give Mc Cain a pass on not supporting the Jim Webb GI Bill. I am a veteran and find it incredible that a former POW will not do anything in his power to give our troops everything they deserve and then some.

Posted by: RAUL PEDRAZA | May 27, 2008 7:01 PM

As far as the most gaff prone politician in memory goes, their memory must be extremely short. GWB has dozens if not hundreds of much more substantive ones. I once saw a list of his fifty funniest, and was amazed at his ignorance.

Posted by: Javalation | May 27, 2008 7:01 PM

Most of the time, Obama did not know what he was talking about, and common sense tells me to ask the question: how can he lead this country? and who can trust him to do well on the most difficult job in the world?

Posted by: nancy reise | May 27, 2008 6:59 PM

I would respect the critics more if they just told the truth and admitted that they cannot stomach a half Black man as president. To make up silly little issues like this as evidence of something larger is plain stupid, especially when you have a old candidate that mixes up everything in his mind. Anyone with an ounce of intelligence knows this is a non-issue. The real issue is you hate the thought of him president just like you hate the thought of any Black person earning something that you think is your birth right based solely on skin color.

Posted by: chris | May 27, 2008 6:58 PM

The man said "Auschwitz" instead of "Buchenwald" - how do we know that this isn't some kind of terrorist code?

He's already said he wants to end the Iraq war. He's said he wants to use negotiation and political influence the restore American world leadership. He's said he wants to end the Bush tax cuts for the rich.

The man's a proven terrorist!

Posted by: al75 | May 27, 2008 6:57 PM

I felt like had Hillary's sniper memory simply been of the wrong location, and she got the names confused, then there would have been no "gaff". This is the same kind of issue, and my guess is that most Americans will agree. As a matter of fact, if Obama planned it and the RNC fell for it, then he's pulled a shrewed ploy. They best let it go.

Posted by: Javalation | May 27, 2008 6:57 PM

They misunderestimated me...
i don't hear the RNC bringing up those too much...

but besides that, everybody makes mistakes at least obama can spell

Posted by: jsquared | May 27, 2008 6:55 PM

I think it to e unfair to his relatives.First to come to mind,Dick Chaney

Posted by: Thomas S Powers | May 27, 2008 6:54 PM

A white uncle?

Posted by: tommy | May 27, 2008 6:53 PM

Pales in comparison to McCain's gaffe:

"It's common knowledge and has been reported in the media that Al-Qaeda is going back into Iran and receiving training and are coming back into Iraq. That's well known."

Obama inaccurately recalls history??

Please... how about not knowing modern history AND wanting to start another war propagated with fanciful fallacies.

Get your facts straight-- Obama didn't lie. His uncle is a hero.

Posted by: Ray | May 27, 2008 6:53 PM

He did not invent it . Please take back your post and apologise for inflaming this non-issue. He said Auschwitz instead of Buchenwald. Wrong yes. A lie to get 'credibility', no. True in other details, yes.
"Earlier, the Republican National Committee pounced on Obama's improbable statement that an uncle had served in the unit that liberated Auschwitz.

In fact, campaign spokesman Bill Burton says, his great uncle was a member of the 89th Infantry Division that liberated the Ohrduf camp, part of Buchenwald and, according to the Holocaust Museum, the first concentration camp liberated by U.S. troops.

The soldier in question, Burton said, is Obama's grandmother's brother, who's still alive."

Next time get YOUR facts right before YOU post so eargerly

Posted by: DSM | May 27, 2008 6:52 PM

It's a true story, he just messed up the name of the camp. Get over it, this is a pathetic excuse for ammunition against Obama because the Republicans know they've got little to throw at him.

I'd much rather have a man like him in office, who has exaggerated or goofed on some stories, who isn't perfect but who inspires so many, rather than a man who will continue the downward slide of America and do nothing but continue a useless war and sink us further into a recession. Wake up people, let's try to stop being a joke to the other countries of the world and start acting like we've got some sense.

Posted by: Samantha | May 27, 2008 6:51 PM

Charlie Payne was the brother, of Obama's grandmother.
He was Obama's great uncle.
Here is what our soldiers saw.
Imagine if you there.

Posted by: MrUniteUs | May 27, 2008 6:51 PM

Could the RNC get more desperate? What's more important, confusing the names of concentration camps, as Obama did, or repeatedly making statements that belie a fundamental misunderstanding of the middle east, as McCain did regarding Iranian support of "Al Qaeda"

Posted by: Anonymous | May 27, 2008 6:50 PM

thank you, Larry the cable guy! The fact remains, Sen Obama's great uncle was a war veteran, he helped liberate a concentration camp, and he is an example of all the veterans whom this country ignores once they've done their duty.

Posted by: a reader | May 27, 2008 6:50 PM

OK, now I can give advice to all candidates this year. Don't say anything about anything, period. Anything you say will be used against you by somebody, and anything you say is likely to be unprovable. So, if you all say nothing, this will be a really pleasant election year.

Posted by: Gestell | May 27, 2008 6:48 PM

The RNC points out a flub in Obama's speech. How about the the RNC pointing out the flub named Bush and his serial factual errors on everything from weapons of mass illusion in Iraq onwards. The morons at the RNC sit around all day with their thumbs up their a--ess while Fuhrer Bush flubs his way through his presidency

Posted by: GOPcangotohell | May 27, 2008 6:45 PM

Wow, the Republicans are impugning the service of a man who suffered PTSD during the liberation of Ohrdruf. What the McCain campaign will stoop to is just disgusting. The American people would be better served if McCain devoted a little thought to helping our vets rather than attacking them.

Posted by: Justin | May 27, 2008 6:44 PM

Obviously stated to garner political favor...and once again, we see Senator Obama lying through his teeth. This man is a pathetic joke. What's more pathetic is that some people still continue to close their eyes and ignore his lies and deceit.

Posted by: cthulhuphatgn | May 27, 2008 6:40 PM

Very good. Now if only you could get your peers at the WaPo Fact Checker to temper their three Pinnochio rating. It's at worst a minor error.

Posted by: Ben | May 27, 2008 6:27 PM

LOL! :-D

The PC Police are out in Force! From FOUR Pinocchios down to Three, and my comment about "Barry's" God-Like abilities to absorb all his Ancestor's memories expunged!

Libbies! The Dingleberries of Politics!

And, the Idiocy that is; Political Correctness! :-(

Posted by: SAINT---The | May 27, 2008 6:27 PM

Disgusting that anyone would try to make something of this. Obama has the right to be proud of his relatives for their military service - his uncle did help liberate a concentration camp, he just had the wrong one.

A lesson to pay closer attention to family history from now on, perhaps.

Posted by: SusanSC | May 27, 2008 6:24 PM

The incredible stupidity of some people who would actually think he purposely invented that story scares me, it's obvious the story was handed down over generations and most probably third hand to Obama. The shallowness of America is astounding, if America thinks that this somehow is important then they deserve the government they now have. America is in a recession, involved in a war they can't get out of, and trillions of dollars in the hole. And all they are worried about is some stupid mistake in a story passed down from a grandparent.

Posted by: Larry the cable guy | May 27, 2008 6:18 PM

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