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A Tipping Point for Obama -- or Just a Dip?


Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) acknowledges supporters after speaking at a rally in Bloomington, Ind., on April 30, 2008. (Associated Press)

By Dan Balz
INDIANAPOLIS -- Is the tide turning?

That has been the main talking point from Hillary Clinton's campaign since her victory in Pennsylvania last week. By almost any measure, she met expectations in the Keystone State, after exceeding them in Ohio and in the popular vote in Texas. Her campaign grabbed hold of those results to push back talk that she should quit the race.

Meanwhile, Barack Obama has faced more bad news over his relationship with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. The controversy over Wright's views and whether Obama did enough soon enough to break with his pastor has added enormously to the pressure on him to use next Tuesday's primaries in Indiana and North Carolina to demonstrate that he has fought his way through the troubles.

There are signs that the multiple controversies that have hit Obama over the past weeks are hurting his candidacy, both for the nomination and for the general election. A CBS-New York Times poll shows an erosion of confidence in his ability to prevail in the nomination battle, despite the clear advantages he enjoys against Clinton. Doubts about his values and his patriotism have grown in the past two months, adding to potential concerns about how he would fare in the general election.

Nor has the full weight of the Wright controversy played itself out. Obama's effort Tuesday to denounce his former pastor still leaves unanswered questions about the impact Wright had on him and his judgment in not doing more to step away from the pastor's influence. Obama decided Wright was enough of a problem that he did not want him delivering the invocation at his announcement in February 2007. Did he hope to avoid the whole question by pushing his pastor to the side? How seriously did he regard his pastor's transgressions at that time?

The Clinton campaign seized Thursday on a round of new polls to drive their argument that the tide is turning. During a conference call with reporters, the Clinton officials cited new Quinnipiac University surveys from Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida to argue that Clinton is now stronger than Obama in a race against McCain in those three critical swing states.

The surveys show Obama and McCain essentially tied in Florida and Ohio, while Clinton leads the presumptive Republican nominee in both. In Pennsylvania, both Clinton and Obama run ahead of McCain but Clinton's lead is in the double digits, while Obama's is not.

The Clinton campaign team was rightly challenged on the reliability of general election polls this far in advance of the November election. Strategist Geoff Garin responded that he believes there are two important shifts in the landscape that favor Clinton over Obama as the stronger nominee in the fall.

The first, he said, is that the economy now is the most important issue in the election, a shift since the campaign began. The second is that Clinton consistently does better than Obama among voters who cite the economy as the most important issue.

"Yes, polls change," he said, "but what we are seeing in the polls reflects some fundamental things that I think will be crucial to the outcome of the election in November."

If he is right, those are considerations that could be reflected in Tuesday's vote here in Indiana and North Carolina, and also are likely to influence uncommitted superdelegates as they decide whether to endorse Obama or Clinton before the convention.

But superdelegates apparently are weighing a variety of factors, leading Obama to do well in the continuing competition for their support. He picked up a key endorsement from Indiana Rep. Baron Hill on Wednesday and another Thursday, when Joe Andrew, who was chairman of the Democratic National Committee under former president Bill Clinton, switched his allegiance from Clinton to Obama.

Andrew cited the potential damage to the party's hopes of winning in November, should the nomination battle rage all the way to the convention. In a lengthy letter that was released by the Obama campaign, Andrew urged voters in his home state of Indiana -- and other superdelegates -- to bring the contest to a quick conclusion.

The other reality is that whatever the Clinton campaign has found in recent polling to support its argument that she is the stronger nominee in November, the evidence remains mixed.

A new NBC News-Wall Street Journal poll shows that she continues to carry baggage that could hurt her in the general election. By a 2-1 margins, Democratic voters see Obama as more honest and trustworthy and as more optimistic. By margins almost that great, they believe he is more likely to be able to unite the country.

Just as telling, given the attention on Obama's controversies, when Democrats were asked if they had heard anything about Clinton or Obama over the past month that gave them a more or less favorable impression of either, the reviews on both were harsh. Almost four in 10 said that, on the basis of what they've heard recently, they had a less favorable impression of Obama and of Clinton, while only a quarter said they had a more favorable impression.

What this says is that Obama has been weakened by Rev. Wright and perhaps by other reevaluations of his candidacy over the past two months. How much more damage he may sustain is not knowable now. But Clinton still has work to do to overcome her own weaknesses.

The battle for the hearts and minds of superdelegates will be rage on, with Obama pushing hard for early endorsements and Clinton pleading for time to let the process play out until June. Clearly the tide has turned in one important way -- for the first time since he won South Carolina, Obama is on the defensive far more than his rival. But so too is she, given the lead Obama has in pledged delegates and, more narrowly, in the popular vote.

That's why Tuesday's are so critical to both candidates.

By Web Politics Editor  |  May 1, 2008; 2:53 PM ET
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283 to 2025 Obama 679 delgates remanin 404 elected 275 supers but not sure if gaum's new Obama supers cuanted yet

Posted by: Mark Penn's nemise | May 4, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

WOW! Some resume of acheivement..

Posted by: hhkeller | May 3, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

I like Obama most, McCain second, Hillary third.

Barrack Obama will win. He'll be the first black president of the Untied States because:

1) The Iraq war was wrong, costly, and now unpopular. Voters will throw the hawks out.

2) The economy and consumer confidence are hurting. Voters will throw the bumbs out.

3) We have enough post-60's voters now where many more voters can see right through race-baiting commercials.

By the time of the nomination voters will see through the attacks against Obama calling him a Muslim AND a Christian extremist. They know the Reverand Wright attacks are pointless because Reverand Wright is not running for President. They know Obama is not nearly as easy to paint as out-of-touch as a multi-millaionaire or an old, lifelong Washington politician. However, Obama has not gone so negative in his commericals.

4) Huckabee... I mean, Hillary did not pick up the delegates she needed in Texas or Ohio or Pennsylvania (states that favored her) and even lost delegates in Texas. She lost a long time ago when her advisers led her to disaster on 10 contests in a row following Super Tuesday.

5) Obama continues to inspire new voters and those of us who are tired of 16 years of Bushes and Clintons. Let's give a candidate who has earned their way up a chance for a change.

Obama over McCain in November 2008

Posted by: eljefejesus | May 3, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

The most important criterion is that Obama was against the Hillary-Bush made war in Iraq from the beginning.

Posted by: stan | May 3, 2008 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Hmmm, there are real crazy folks out there. The likes of Rafael... God bless your ignorance. When they made the rules (DNC), they were intending to protect the "Innevitable" candidate (Billary), who operates with party machinery. But, oops, the tide turned, and now its Obamas fault. Please, get a life. If Hillary was in the lead, you would not be complaining... oh sorry, didn't mean to expose your warped reasoning.

Posted by: Moss | May 3, 2008 12:46 AM | Report abuse

I would just like to point out that John Edwards consistently polled better against John McCain than either Clinton or Obama. He outpolled them as a general election candidate up till the day he dropped out of the race. Fat lot of good that did him.

"Electability" is not a criterion for electing a candidate - it's a strategy for losing. The Dems lost with the "electable" Kerry, because no one cared enough to vote for him. People should vote for the candidate they *support*. That's what makes the candidate "electable." The fact that the candidate wins elections is all that matters.

So far, the Democratic candidate who is most "electable" is Obama, because he's the candidate who has won twice as many elections, the most delegates, and more of the popular vote. That's the only poll that really matters. The rest is interesting for purposes of speculation, but it's ultimately meaningless.

Posted by: thisniss | May 2, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Why punish Obama for the mistakes of the DNC, Michigan and Florida? There should be a re-vote if those states' primary votes are to count.

As an aside: we need a primary season of maybe four months, max. This long, painful process does no one any good.

Posted by: Lloyd | May 2, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

It's funny how the DNC will not count the Florida or Michigan votes but, Puerto Rico will be counted and it is not a state! That is a low blow given by Howard Dean and the DNC to you people down in Florida and Michigan. Take that Florida and Michigan Puerto Rico is more important than you!!!!

Obama hell NO!!!!

Posted by: Rafael | May 2, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

I will never vote for Obama, even though I am a lifelong Democrat. He doesn't want my vote to count in the primary, then he's not going to get it in the general.

There was a time when black people couldn't vote. Ironically, now it is a black man telling us that our votes shouldn't count.

Florida and Michigan will never support Obama in the general election.

A vote for Obama in the primary is a vote for McCain.

Posted by: ian | May 2, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

let's get real. the only thing the press can focus on are words and thoughts the candidate has not said and in fact diagrees with. the american people are not that unfair, they will judge candidates on thier own merits. and people will realize we don't need 3 terms of W (mccain) or 4 consecutive presidents from 2 families.

Posted by: jacade | May 2, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

It seems to me that this election 2008 is turning more like a deposition for a law suit for wrong doings by slave ownors of over 200 years ago. How can we voters settle this with our ballots? It is not for voters to decide this it's up to the courts That's why we have courts.Yes, blacks were wronged. the Government made amend but blacks are still not satisfied.Maybe there ought to be a class action suit AA virsus US gov
But i don't beleive the settlement should be "give me president" but rather an apology and an equal amount of cash to every AA. This is the fairest way of doing things. We should let the system work. We are mixing apples and oranges.
Obama is a candidate in all do respect and should be treated no better nor worse than any other candidate NOT as a "settlement". Once we accept this we will be back to not trashing each other anymore.I think we have done enough damage to rehash hatred that was part of the past. What we built together for years and years is priceless.
God bless us all

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Dr. Wright says Goddams America. Christians are outraged. Let's use some logic. Christians believe God is personally responsible for events , or predestination. Therefor God has the ability to stop 911. Since God did not prevent 911 the intent of God would have to be:
1. God blesses America
2. God doesn't care one way or another
3. GodDamms America for disobeying his word.

Posted by: hammerdown | May 2, 2008 3:19 AM | Report abuse

Hmmmm...that should have been:

Your synapses are obviously not firing rhythmically. Ask your doctor for a CT and let us know the prognosis. Read that moron.

Posted by: Gary K. | May 2, 2008 3:04 AM | Report abuse

"If there's any Obama supporters out there who can read ?? ... Y O U L O S T !!!"

Your synapses are obviously not fire rhythmically. Ask your doctor for a CT and let us know the prognosis. Read that moron.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 3:00 AM | Report abuse

Facts
1.Clinton cannot win enough delegates to pass Obama.

2.McCain cannot beat any Democrat, as Democrats are turning out 3 to 1 over GOP voters.

3.The racist Democrat vote accounts for less than 20% mainly in the south, even if applied equally among all states, less than 6% of racially challenged are expected to switch to McCain.

4. If the election were held today McCain could carry possibly 12 states mostly rural in the South and possibly Ohio and Florida being the only large delegate counts.

Posted by: hammerdown | May 2, 2008 2:58 AM | Report abuse

Bush,Clinton,Bush,Clinton

Nope. There is something fundamentally un-American about giving the executive of this country to two families for 3 decades.

Enough.... It is time for a change.

Posted by: jimbo | May 2, 2008 1:57 AM | Report abuse

Hope! Change! Waffles!

Hope! Change! Waffles!

OBAMA = Beautiful Icing on a Rotten Cake

Posted by: Cranky Centrist | May 2, 2008 1:35 AM | Report abuse

Man, all the comments, but no perspective. Money is Power...Example # 1:
1) Dems can't win without Obama (black vote, new young voters and fund raising machine), so he is on the ticket..guaranteed.
2) If McCain wins...long shot, he'll serve 4 and then Romney steps in, with his i-banker bros!
And to all my white "blue collar" brothers (I am half black, for reference), vote your pocket book this time and not your fears, and vote for OBAMA. He'll put more money in your pockets, and have Osama Bin Ladens head on a platter by the end of his first term...Keep it t'real!!!

Posted by: Abraham "Hussein" Jankans | May 2, 2008 12:55 AM | Report abuse

If there's any Obama supporters out there who can read ?? ... Y O U L O S T !!!

Posted by: gatorsn09 | May 2, 2008 12:55 AM | Report abuse

Obams rise to fame has ended. His phoniness shows stronger every day. All that's left for him is a fast slide downhill. Don't waste your vote on this guy, smart people support Hillary. She's our next President.

Posted by: gatorsn09 | May 2, 2008 12:48 AM | Report abuse

Obama can weather this storm. Full disclosure: I'm supporting Obama. I think that this is a trying moment for his candidacy, but if the media acts rationale and doesn't talk about Rev. Wright every two seconds, Barack will win in November. Right now, Hillary's support is strong. They're not going to beat Obama by any metric, but it is only one month until the last elections in Montana and South Dakota. Four more weeks is tolerable. This country is just so soft. Everyone is indignant right now but they don't know whom to be indignant with. Once the Democrats rally, we will win. Just don't be a wimp, shout as loud as the right. It's the only way to do it, by way of force. Republicans know that, but I do too, and I know something else: John McCain knows very little about the economy, he'll tell you the same. His latest health care plan is worse than President Bush's. I suspect that the American public doesn't realize President Bush is smarter than John McCain. Sure, John McCain is a nice guy, I'd love to watch a baseball game with him, and share some beers, but this is too important. Obama continues to impress me. I think his opposition to the gas tax suspension is absolutely correct. It would hurt the highway trust fund, which fuels construction jobs. Thousands of jobs would be lost. This is just a Grover Norquist/Charlie Black penned proposal to help the oil companies. It would save the average driver thirty bucks over some three month period. By driving the demand for oil up during the summer --when most driving occurs and when prices for oil rise due to the already expected demand-- John McCain's gas tax suspension would allow the oil companies to charge even more usuriously. This plan helps Exxon-Mobil, not me or you. Not to mention, Pelosi and Reid will never even allow a vote and that, and thank God. McCain's admitted inability to grasp complicated issues like "the economy" are telling not at all helpful to me, the citizen. By discrediting himself, I'm forced to question why he's letting economic conservatives to the right of Geore W. Bush pen his position papers. Therefore, John McCain would be dramatically worse than Bush, yes. I'm not afraid to say it. If you're a Democrat, start supporting Obama. Sorry, your candidate lost. I'm sorry, I supported Edwards first. But it's time to be intelligent and vote for Obama. Get the vote out and remember to yell louder than Republicans.


New York City Secession 2010

Posted by: legan00@ccny.cuny.edu | May 2, 2008 12:47 AM | Report abuse

To STP,

I agree with you Rev Wright is excercising his 1st amendment rights to free speech.
I hope the idiot keeps talking!

Posted by: President Clinton 2009 | May 2, 2008 12:26 AM | Report abuse

What is all the BS regarding Rev Wright's ranting, he's exercising his 1st Amendment Right! WTF! the Bill of Rights is a pretty cool document! Bush and his Cabinet of Skunks
are loving all of this election year rhetoric! the spotlights are off! where is Cheney?

Posted by: STP | May 2, 2008 12:18 AM | Report abuse

Nothing really has changed in the delegate race: even if Clinton won the remaining races by landslides, she still would be behind Obama in delegate count. The fact that she is losing critical superdelegates (e.g, Richardson, Andrew) to Obama is telling of where they will tilt. Hillary's only shot is if Obama self-destructs. The Wright debacle shows both his resiliance and commitment to his message. The press needs a horserace and will continue this drama as long as they can.

Posted by: Bill P. | May 2, 2008 12:17 AM | Report abuse

Nothing has changed...Hillary is still a liar, Mccain is still Bush's third term and a warmonger...100 year war. The polls reflect a day in the life of the news cycle and nothing more. Does anyone remember that Hillary was the presumptive winner with a 20-30 point lead in all of the polls some 12 months ago...how did she allow a no named Obama to beat her...clearly she is not all that she is proported to be. Elected officials know who she is...know about her lies and scandals. Why would America putting their head in the sand on this. Why is Wright such a big issue. He is a black man with mad cow disease.

Posted by: Belinda | May 1, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse

the thing i like sbout democrats is, they eat their young!

Posted by: rick | May 1, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

CLINTON IS AHEAD IN THE POLLS.

Obama would have lost months ago, had his true character been known at the outset. Too bad he got all that support he didn't deserve.

Posted by: Billw | May 1, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Will one of the Obamamaniacs, please, tell me one vote Obama made against the war. Just one---his votes match Clinton's perfectly---except the vote on Iran's Republican Army which Obama criticizes--but for which he voted --"not present."

Call Ms. Stewart his chief foreign policy advisor and ask her how fast Obama will end the war---

Oh--right, I forgot---we can't question the online left's messiah if we don't want to be called racist.

This group needs to grow up---he's just a politician--a failed politician--get over it.

Posted by: dpmd | May 1, 2008 11:22 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: ActualText | May 1, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Typical White Person

Why do you consider Obama to be an empty suit?

Posted by: swalker3 | May 1, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Steve,

Here's something for you to ponder:

Name a single President in the last 50 who has talked to our enemies and NOT found it beneficial?

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Posted by: votenic | May 1, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

For several reasons I believe that Barack Obama is the best candidate in the Presidential race:

ï‚· Senator Obama has been in the U.S. Senate since 2004,and prior to that he served a significant time in elected office at the state level. State politics counts as valuable political experience in my book. The essential goals are the same as in national politics - to put ideas into legislative form and persuade others to back them. During his time in the Illinois State Legislature he received great reviews from both Republican and Democrat colleagues for his abilities as someone who can get legislation written and passed that no one thought had a chance. Senator Obama was good at that in Illinois, and he has been showing himself to be good at it in Washington D.C. also.

ï‚· Barack Obama has been a constitutional law professor and the president of the highly respected Harvard Law Review. His constitutional expertise was on display during the Senate debates on the issue of detainees being held at Guantanimo Bay. It was during those debates that I first heard Senator Obama on C-SPAN, and I was impressed with the arguments he put forth on the floor of the Senate.

ï‚· Senator Obama also has hands-on experience as a community organizer in Chicago, working to improve neighborhoods and the lives of the people in those neighborhoods. I have always believed that hands-on experience of that type is invaluable and that it is lacking in many of our national politicians. What I believe Senator Obama's experience gives him, is a practical working knowledge of what people really need and what they will respond to. It is important to emphasize that his experience is direct with the people and their daily needs. It does not come through the lens of a narrow special interest group agenda .

ï‚· Senator Obama has worked on two of the most momentous issues of the day in the U.S. Senate - halting nuclear proliferation and congressional ethics reform. He was instrumental in writing the ethics reform bill and shepherding it through congress to see it passed into law. He has risen to a leadership role in the Senate faster than any other Senator in my memory.

ï‚· As everyone is finding out, Barack Obama has the raw talent and charisma to inspire millions of people like no one since John F. Kennedy. He also has the experience and vision to channel that energy into an effective force pushing a program of real substantive policies that will bring relief to middle class Americans, create a more equitable economy and increase opportunity for all.

ï‚· Barack Obama offers a vision of all Americans coming together behind the original values that this nation was founded on. He realizes and articulates as no other candidate in this race does, that the best way to counter the suffocating dominance of the powerful special interests that have so much say in our government right now is to awaken the American people and bring them together into their own holistic, broad-based interest group that draws its power not from money to buy exposure and thereby attract votes, but through the direct wielding of their votes.

ï‚· With so much hopelessness among average people in the nation who don't believe that the politicians listen to them, Barack Obama is essentially saying: I hear you - you want to get things done. If you elect me, I will conduct the good faith negotiations necessary to get programs passed. That is why he is attracting so many independents, regardless of how supposedly liberal his policy positions are. It is a kind of populism, but it is not an angry populism. It is a practical and healing populism.

ï‚· If he succeeds, his powerful coalition of average Americans will elect those that will turn away from the narrow and uncompromising positions of the special interest groups and instead listen first to the needs of the people and be willing to smash gridlock by engaging in the compromising and negotiating needed to pass meaningful legislation that will make everyone's lives better.

ï‚· Barack Obama is not only inspirational, intelligent, and experienced, but he is cool-headed, thoughtful, and possesses great judgment and foresight. I believe if given the chance he can change the landscape of American politics like Reagan did in the eighties. We've been stuck in that landscape for close to 30 years now. I'm tired of the red state - blue state mindset. Hillary Clinton won't take us out of that mindset. All she will be able to do will be to operate within it, and no long term change will result. She and Bill Clinton are only capable of navigating in this red state - blue state environment because they don't envision anything different. That is obvious through their campaign messages and techniques. If enough of us grasp Barack Obama's vision and entrust him with our votes, he will be able to alter the entire landscape of American politics once again, this time toward a more long standing progressive agenda that emphasizes creation of opportunities for all, listening to the people and their needs instead of the special interests and their narrow positions that they have no interest in compromising on. All it takes is for enough Americans to believe it is possible and it will happen.

My head can provide all these arguments in support of Barack Obama for President of the United States of America, but I would be denying something deeper and truer if I didn't end with what my heart tells me. To do that I have to bring up a piece of American lore that I have thought about from time to time, and that I believe is relevant today.

Long ago, at one of the most desperate times in our nation's history, Abraham Lincoln gave his first inaugural address to the nation. The address was an appeal to keep the Union intact. Lincoln wanted to bring the nation together, but he was unsuccessful at doing that. Within weeks of the speech, Fort Sumter, South Carolina was under siege and the civil war began. Still, the summation of Lincoln's speech has become one of the famous phrases in American history:

"The mystic chords of memory, stretching from every battlefield and patriot grave, to every living heart and hearthstone, all over this broad land, will yet swell the chorus of the Union, when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature."

That phase captures the connections between people, families and ancestors, and the history of a nation. It appeals to patriotism, family pride, home, and the stake all have in the Union. It says all that, and goes still further. It expresses those things in a spiritual sense, as if the battlefields, patriot graves, and hearthstones all across our land create a shared consciousness embedded in the psyche of all Americans, as if those mystic chords of memory resonate within and around all of us through our awareness of the ideas our nation is based on, and the laws and customs that stem from those ideas. Our perceptions of what the world should be like are strongly linked to those ideas juxtaposed with what we see all around us every day. Our actions as a people flow from those perceptions. Over the last quarter century, and especially over the last seven years, our perceptions have become jaded and it seems to many Americans that those mystic chords of memory have grown dim. The leaders of our nation have failed to maintain our connection to the great ideas that America was founded on, and we the people have neglected to hold them accountable. We now see a leader rising up that promises to change all that. I believe his experience shows that he can deliver on that promise. If we choose to follow the better angels of our nature, we will entrust him with this charge and through him we will once again touch those mystic chords of memory and swell the chorus of our great Union for all the world to hear.

It is a very rare opportunity that America has at this moment. When a leader arises with the ability to cut through all the distractions of our world to play those mystic chords of memory so that not just one or a few people, but millions of Americans can hear - when that opportunity presents itself, I believe we must reach for it with all our strength.

Don't let that opportunity pass, please put your support behind Senator Barack Obama for President of the United States of America.

Posted by: DK | May 1, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

someone posted: "There are a lot of centrist Democrats like myself who will become independents if Obama is the nominee."

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Amen to that. If the Dems are stupid and cowardly enough to go with the empty suit...well...I think it would be the ideal time for Hillary to run as an Independent or start a 3rd party!

Would be a fascinating 3 way race.

Posted by: Typical White Person | May 1, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Here's the issue for us all to ponder.

What if Obama visits the leaders of Iran, Syria, North Korea, and Cuba, and they treat him nicely and speak nice words, and he believes them and welcomes them into his circle of friends. When they perform another atrocity, will he first explain it away as the act of a dotty old uncle, or will he denounce them as offensive and unacceptable? Based on their track record, shouldn't he avoid them in the first place?

Posted by: Steve | May 1, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

There are a lot of centrist Democrats like myself who will become independents if Obama is the nominee. I simply do not want to be a member of a party that would nominate such an unqualified candidate.
BTW, for every "youth" or black the democrats hypothetically would lose if Hillary is the nominee there are more women and blue collar votes that will be lost if Obama is the nominee.

Hillary is a fighter; with all of the economic and environmental problems facing us and the war in Iraq, she is what we need in a president right now.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Sen. Obama argues that he didn't campaign in Florida so the Florida vote shouldn't count. However articles in the Boston Globe, HeraldTribune and other sites, state that Obama did in fact campaign in Florida. One headline states "Obama airs "ads" on Cable stations in Florida." Even with the Florida cable ads, Obama still lost. There are no such articles about Sen. Clinton campaigning in Florida, so how can Sen. Obama argue against counting Florida?
See: From heraldtribune.com Obama's Florida ads bust pledgehttp://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/01/obama_airs_nati.html

Posted by: Wilson | May 1, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

"...the power of ideas.
'You are what you eat', the nutritionists endlessly hector fast-food addicts, and you are also what ideas you have consumed."

-- Dean Koontz
"The Darkest Evening of the Year

Posted by: Typical White Person | May 1, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

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OBAMA = CAN AMERICA TAKE SUCH A RISK?


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OBAMA = DIVISION, NOT HAPPY TIMES

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OBAMA = CHAOS, NOT CHANGE


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OBAMA = HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE

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OBAMA = ATHEISM


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OBAMA = LAWLESSNESS

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OBAMA = DIVISION

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

"Obama is a girly man."

Spoken like a true paragon of intellect.

I pray that Xbox 360 comes out with a "doodles for dumbies" game. Maybe then, some of these people will forget all about the election.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

n"Look at the trends in RCP's poll averages, they are quite striking."

They are skewed by what statisticians call an "outlier." You remove the highest and lowest stat the you get about an 8 point Obama lead in NC. It gives you a better picture of the numbers. That's why they use it.

Clinton is tracking upwards, but some of these stats are before Obama cut ties with the Nutty Pastor. I'd wait until the next round of polls by the major four pollsters if I were you.

Sheesh...it seems that because one poll gave Clinton a 2 point lead, Clintonites are pissing their pants in glee over it. It's rather funny really.

Posted by: Gary K. | May 1, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Wright on the Bill Moyers show gave a well-reasoned presentation of a position, which focused on all of the bad, and none of the good in American race relations. Although I, a white thought it hypercritical it was not divisive or destructive. That was the intellectual Wright, that is the man Obama would have been attracted to. On Monday we saw the angry scorned man who behaved like a politician not a pastor and that was a man who I thought was a racist. Wright may have hid the racist part of himself from Obama in his personal dealings. Obama may have been exposed to some of his racist ideas on the pulpit but he may never have heard the worst of Wright that the public got in snippets. Because Obama was personally fond of the man, Mr Wright, he was tolerant of Rev Wright even though he disagreed with him.

Obama has been very forthright in his book and in his speeches. He has made transparency an issue in a world where transparency puts him at a tactical disadvantage to his disingenuous opponent. Honesty is a centerpiece of his political philosophy.

Clearly Obama's life work and political theory is predicated on a foundation that is not sympathetic to Wright's extremist viewpoint. He has never done anything to lend support to Wright's extremist views. Obama is a master of dealing constructively with diverse viewpoints. That is what he did with Wright, tolerated a part of the man with which he disagreed because he liked another part. All that proves is that Obama is humane. That says nothing about his judgment since he never supported Wright in a political venue. That is a quality that would help him not hurt him as president. Now that the senator has totally dissociated himself from Wright and denounced him as well, why is there still a drumbeat to imply that Obama would not be a good president because of Wright?

Wright, as Mike Huckabee has stated, was trying to prove that his perverted view of America and not Obama's hopeful message is the correct one. Why is there no drumbeat criticizing McCain for his relationship with Rev Hagee. McCain accepts Hagee; Obama rejects Wright. By continuing to harp on this Wright matter after Obama cleared up the ambiguity about his relationship with the man, the reporting is beginning to seem biased. Please don't prove Wright to be correct about our current political scene.

Posted by: Ron M | May 1, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a girly man. He makes Kerry look tough. He's the weakest candidate my party has ever considered. Wright came after Obama because he couldn't stand to watch this spineless guy deny him like Judas and lie and act like he didn't know what Wright was all about. Obama got called out. I respect Wright for that. Obama needs to check between his legs to make sure he still has balls, because he sure doesn't act like he has any.

Real men couldn't tell you the price of Arugula at Whole Foods.

Hillary '08 if you care about this country, don't want an anti-american president and do want someone with a backbone as president instead!!!

Posted by: Obama is a wimp | May 1, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

The Democratic party has gone looney-left, so between that factor plus the allegiance of African-Americans to Obama (more understandable) it looks like it would take even bigger news than we have already seen to turn things around for Hillary Clinton.

And it would take an electoral miracle for Obama to beat McCain in November. We haven't even seen the first move by the Republican attack machine. This is like June 5, 1944, and the Allied ships are just over the horizon, and the landing forces of the Republicans are coming. Obama knows they are coming, but there's nothing much he can do about it. He's like a deer in the headlights just trying to deal with Hillary Clinton. Obama will be road-kill for McCain.

Posted by: dyinglikeflies | May 1, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Obama is unelectable in November. It might not be what black america wants to hear, but it's true, and for the good of the party, he needs to step aside. He did this to himself..no-one else. He supported Wright and his racist, anti-american views and those of his church for 20 years. Yes, it's called support when you attend for 20 years, give thousands of dollars, defend the man publicly, and portray him prior to a month ago as your spiritual mentor. Lack of judgment, lack of character. Say no to Obama.

Posted by: SoPol | May 1, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Listen to the North Carolinians (from McClatchey) - the RCP poll "trends" are plateauing - the natural trough resulting from this whole episode, ending with the cutting of the cord this week, may be coming to an end:

J. Haydel, a 39-year old Apex quality insurance engineer, thinks the Wright affair is the creation of the news media.

"I don't know that it's had a big impact," said Haydel, an Obama supporter. "I didn't see it as big thing to begin with."

Judy Walters, a 53-year-old teacher from Sanford who's supporting Clinton, said Obama should not be penalized for the remarks of his minister.

"As a Christian you need to be accountable for yourself," Walters said. "People should not hold it against Obama because of what his preacher says."

Posted by: thinkresults | May 1, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

I've been having a lot of fun throwing some sass around in support of Barack Obama. Now I have to eat dinner and do something productive.

I think the lesson from this blog is that people are very reactive and scared. I want to encourage everyone to believe in the best for everyone and think of something you can do or say to inspire a better future.

If you hear negative messaging, as a PR professional, I can tell you, it doesn't mean there's any basis for it--most often than not, you can be assured there isn't.

The negative realities are in Washington-- the financial food chain of lobbying and corruption which tars the process and hurts Americans.

We have to vote our hopes and our values. If you believe that everyone gets a chance, that we are stronger together than apart, that our adversaries are not our fellow citizens, for the most part, but entrenched interests which are unresponsive and uninterested in change, then vote accordingly.

Bill Clinton once said we should vote our hopes and not our fears. I'd like to know what happened to that Bill Clinton, believe me.

Now we have a new opportunity with Obama. Let's not blow it. We're on the fast track to oblivion as a nation, and it matters, psychologically, spiritually, economically, and politically.

We have to elect a real person for this job. One of us, with hopes and flaws and dreams and untapped ability.

Once that was Bill Clinton. Today that's Barack Obama.


Posted by: Think | May 1, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

The Dem party is in deep trouble, they have to nominate a fatally-flawed candidate, Obama, or they will lose the young and possibly even the black vote for perhaps a generation.


well, then, they better (quickly) nominate Obama

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Despite their sappy public reasons, its obvious that Andrew and other Dem SD's are willing to sacrifice the 2008 election and move to Obama out of fear of alienating the black Dem base and the youth vote for perhaps a generation. They hope to shut down the Dem nomination process ASAP, minimize the collateral damage, and come back with a more viable candidate in 2012. This election is essentially over.

keep saying it, and maybe you'll believe it.

Obama will wipe McCain off the map


(and that's exactly what you're afraid of)

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

.

OBAMA'S ALREADY WON !

Scream, throw a tantrum, blog all night,
But the facts are: that Obama has already won.

Don't believe me?
...go on the Delegate Calculator, and punch in the numbers

Let Hillary win by 70%, in EVERY remaining primary (even North Carolina....and that ain't going to happen..she's never won by 70%)

But do it anyway....let her win EVERY PRIMARY that remains in this race

(and there's no way she's going to win by 70%, and no way she's going to win North Carolina)

....but do it anyway.....just for fun...and what do you find out?

OBAMA IS STILL AHEAD!

Do it ! ....or just keep throwing a tantrum

OBAMA HAS ALREADY WON !

.

DELEGATE CALCULATOR:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/29/delegate.counter/index.html

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Despite their sappy public reasons, its obvious that Andrew and other Dem SD's are willing to sacrifice the 2008 election and move to Obama out of fear of alienating the black Dem base and the youth vote for perhaps a generation. They hope to shut down the Dem nomination process ASAP, minimize the collateral damage, and come back with a more viable candidate in 2012. This election is essentially over.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Media terrorism against a potential US President.

The bin ladens in the media are exactly the same with the one in Afghanistan, in the sense that they hate America.

Posted by: Obama_Rocks | May 1, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Clinton by 8% in Indiana and a narrow upset of 1-2% by Clinton in North Carolina... Look at the trends in RCP's poll averages, they are quite striking. The Dem party is in deep trouble, they have to nominate a fatally-flawed candidate, Obama, or they will lose the young and possibly even the black vote for perhaps a generation.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Man ain't it the truth. Thanks, Fides.

Posted by: Tired of The American Double Standard | May 1, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

ITS THE POLLS STUPID
Race baiting in Pennsylvania, then just plain open season on Obama. Good work Post. I like how the writers now use the "polls say" to wash their hands of their bias - as if the polls are so fast they can catch something in 24 hours. WRONG. Now the media is caught lying too.

Where is the media when Hillary gets on National TV and threatens to obliterate a whole country? No one raises an eyebrow in the U.S. while the rest of the world is up in arms about it. This kind of media coverage is so biased one has to wonder what kind of "media coverage" hillary is buying.

Posted by: Monroe | May 1, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Re. JakeD:

"Did you not know that Obama's middle name was HUSSEIN?"

---

NOOOO - YOU'RE KIDDING! - and my name is think !!!!!HUSSEIN!!!!! results - with the exclamation points and all in caps - right from my birth certificate.

Now I can't even vote for myself - and you won't vote for me ever never! Bummer


Meanwhile...

DNC Chairman Joe Andrew and Clinton appointee switching his vote --> Plus-One superdelegate vote for Obama, Minus-One for Hillary

Announcing it in his hometown of Indianapolis --> Possibly many votes in the primary next Tuesday

Doing it in spite (and perhaps because) of the clueless MSM/Fox/Hannity/O'Reilly/Hillary Wright-mania AttackFest --> PRICELESS


Hear that hissing sound? That's the Hillary 'blip' deflating........

Posted by: thinkresults | May 1, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

from the Nation, this says it all...


Betsy Reed: How Hillary Clinton's campaign played the race card--and drove a wedge into the feminist movement.

"what is most troubling--and what has the most serious implications for the feminist movement--is that the Clinton campaign has used her rival's race against him. In the name of demonstrating her superior "electability," she and her surrogates have invoked the racist and sexist playbook of the right--in which swaggering macho cowboys are entrusted to defend the country--seeking to define Obama as too black, too foreign, too different to be President at a moment of high anxiety about national security. .. There were references by Clinton campaign officials to Obama's admission of past drug use; the tit-for-tat over Clinton's tone-deaf but historically accurate statement that Martin Luther King needed Lyndon Johnson for his civil rights dreams to be realized; and insinuations that Obama is a token, unqualified, overreaching--that he's all pretty words, "fairy tales"
More than any single thing, that moment with Bill Clinton in South Carolina represents the rupture that was coming,...when the former President compared Obama's landslide win, in which he received a major boost from African-American voters, to Jesse Jackson's victories there in 1984 and 1988. Because the former President offered the comparison unprompted, in response to a question that had nothing to do with Jackson or race, the statement was widely read as chalking up Obama's win to his blackness alone and thus attempting to marginalize him as a doomed minority candidate with limited appeal. Obama was now "the black candidate," in the words of one Clinton strategist quoted by the AP.
...The toxicity is further heightened in this post-9/11 atmosphere, in which an image of Obama in Somali dress is understood as a slur and e-mails claiming that he is a "secret Muslim" schooled in a madrassa spread virally, along with rumors that he took the oath of office on a Koran. The madrassa and Koran canards have been thoroughly debunked, but still they persist--and few have been willing to stand up and say, So what if he was a Muslim? For her part, Clinton, asked on 60 Minutes whether Obama was a Muslim, said, "There is nothing to base that on, as far as I know."
A mere three days after Obama spoke [a bout Wright], Bill Clinton made this statement in North Carolina about a potential Clinton-McCain general election matchup: "I think it'd be a great thing if we had an election year where you had two people who loved this country and were devoted to the interest of this country. And people could actually ask themselves who is right on these issues, instead of all this other stuff that always seems to intrude itself on our politics." Whether or not this statement constituted McCarthyism, as one Obama surrogate alleged and as Clinton supporters vigorously denied, the timing of the remark made its meaning quite clear: controversies relating to Obama's race render him less fit than either Hillary or McCain to run for president as a patriotic American. A couple of weeks later, Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen went so far as to call on Obama to make another speech, modeled after John F. Kennedy's declaration in 1960 that, despite his Catholicism, he would respect the separation of church and state as President--as though Obama's blackness were a sign of allegiance to some entity, like the Vatican, other than the United States of America.
In the Democratic debates, enabled by the moderators, Hillary Clinton has increasingly deployed issues of race and patriotism as a wedge strategy against her opponent. First, in the debate in Cleveland on February 26, she pressed Obama not only to denounce but to reject Louis Farrakhan--to whom he was spuriously linked through Reverend Wright, who had taken a trip with the black nationalist leader in the 1980s. In style as well as content, that attack was a harbinger of things to come. In the most recent debate, ABC's George Stephanopolous and Charles Gibson peppered Obama with questions such as, "Do you believe [Wright] is as patriotic as you are?" and, regarding former Weatherman Bill Ayers, a Chicago neighbor and Obama supporter, "Can you explain that relationship for the voters and explain to Democrats why it won't be a problem?" Time after time, Clinton picked up the line and ran with it. "You know, these are problems, and they raise questions in people's minds. And so this is a legitimate area...for people to be exploring and trying to find answers," she said, seeming to abandon her argument that these issues are fair game now only because they will be raised by Republicans later and thus are relevant to an evaluation of Obama's electability.
The Wright, Farrakhan and Ayers controversies have been fueled by a craven media, and ABC's performance in the debate has rightly been condemned. But given that Clinton is the one who is running for President and who purports to represent liberal ideals, her complicity in such attempts to establish guilt by association is far more troubling. While she has dealt gingerly with the matter of Wright in the wake of his recent appearance at the National Press Club--accusing Republicans of politicizing the issue--she also took pains to remind reporters that she "would not have stayed in that church under those circumstances."
It's disappointing, to say the least, to see the first viable female contender for the presidency participate in attacks on her black opponent's patriotism, which exploit an anxious climate around national security that gives white men an edge both over women and people of color--who tend to be viewed, respectively, as weak and potentially traitorous. Says Paula Giddings, "This idea of nationalism and patriotism pulling at everyone has demanded hypermasculine men, more like McCain than the feline Obama, and demanded women whose role is to be maternal more than anything else."

Posted by: fides | May 1, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Hey Biff,

Quite a load of angry there you dumped on us. Thanks!

Posted by: Think stupid | May 1, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

"Clinton can't have it both ways. She can't claim both a) Michigan is legitimate because "Uncommitted" was a choice, and b) count none of the "uncommitted" votes as Obama votes in determining her "lead" in the combined primary counts."

Fairness in politics?

Damn, good thing I was having a soda with my popcorn or else I'd be looking for a new monitor at Fry's tonight.

This process isn't about fairness, it's about convincing people that the sky is red and the ocean is yellow.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

KPO'M:

I could care less what Clinton argues -- for the last time, I wouldn't vote for her in a million years -- the Credentials Committee will have to make a decision at the Convention one way or another if it isn't resolved before then.

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a media-hyped, pathetic, morally-weak dolt who gets "hoodwinked and bamboozled" by a lunatic, hate-mongering ignorant racist. Its quite obvious after the Wright freak show that Obama simply does not have the mental capacity, moral compmass, experience, or sense of judgement to be POTUS.

Posted by: Biff Johnson | May 1, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

JakeD,

You too seem to have anger management issues. Have a glass of chablis and some arugula. Seriously, I read the article and appreciate that you sent it to me.

It reads:

..."He declined to criticize Mr. Kerry or Mr. Edwards over the Iraq vote, but also said that he would not have voted as they had based on the information he had at the time." and..

''But, I'm not privy to the Senate intelligence reports,'' Mr. Obama said. ''What would I have done? I don't know. What I know is that from my vantage point the case was not made.''

It's gentle language. Declining to criticize is not the same as defending. "From my vantage point the case was not made," seems clear enough, as does, "Would not have voted as they had."

So I don't see that your argument has any basis. Sorry. Is there another problem you have with his candidacy?

Posted by: think stupid | May 1, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

OK JakeD, Clinton can't have it both ways. She can't claim both a) Michigan is legitimate because "Uncommitted" was a choice, and b) count none of the "uncommitted" votes as Obama votes in determining her "lead" in the combined primary counts.

Posted by: KPO'M | May 1, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Wow...some people are really off their left nut here, aren't they? This is definitely a bowl-o'-popcorn thread. Quite the entertainment.

Anyhow...it is true that Hillary's chance of attaining the 2025 delegates needed are low...near impossibly low. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool, delusional, or on honest-to-God medical grade hallucinogens. The SDs would have to start falling her way like it was her birthday--they aren't, not yet at least. And in the past week, when Obama has been going though virtual hell the SDs have broken for him almost 2:1 (for some of you undereducated Clintonites, that means for every delegate siding for Clinton, two are siding with Obama). That could change, but if this week hasn't dogged Obama with the SDs, I don't know what will.


"My prediction:
Indiana: Clinton 54%, Obama 46%
N. Carolina: Clinton 51%, Obama 49%"

I'll give Clinton by 5 point in Indiana, but Obama will almost assuredly win NC: Obama by 7.
SurveyUSA is practically owned by the Clinton team; I generally toss them to the dogs. If you track their polls, they are always siding to the Clinton side of the equation. They are akin to the Mason/Dixon poll for the Republicans--always skewing in favor their preference. InsiderAdvantage is a junk poll, they are all over the place. I don't even know why RCP uses them. I'll wait until the big four comes out with their latest polls. But Obama certainly has taken a hit by the Nutty Pastor.

Posted by: Gary K. | May 1, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

(spacing didn't work)

W-A-S

T-H-A-T

S-H-O-R-T

E-N-O-U-G-H?

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

W-A-S T-H-A-T S-H-O-R-T E-N-O-U-G-H?

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

NObama is TOAST!!

Nothing gives me more pleasure than seeing NObama joining the ToastEDMasters club. His gutter rat groupie supporters, his pimping media pals, and most of all, the Super FrauD Delegates will somehow disenfranchaise FL MI, to get him the nomination, but then he will go on lose every state and teritory except Washington DC as he will be Atwatered, ROved, Helmsed, Willie Hortoned, Harold Forded, swift boated, Wrighted, Ayered, Bittergated, and more by the Rethugs.

SWEET.

Posted by: intcamd | May 1, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

To My Lovely Friend "Think Stupid":

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F04E0DA1430F931A15750C0A9619C8B63

In an interview with The New York Times in July 2004, he declined to criticize Mr. Kerry or Mr. Edwards over the Iraq vote: "But, I'm not privy to the Senate intelligence reports," Mr. Obama said. "What would I have done? I don't know."

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Go ahead and explain it using shorter words. Thanks!

Posted by: Think, Stupid | May 1, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

What people are missing is that if Obama is elected, there will be a waffle on every table in America!

Wah! Wah! Change! Hope! Waffles!

LOLOLOLOLOL

Posted by: Cranky Centrist | May 1, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

To My Lovely Friend JakeD:

You Write--

Think Stupid:

Barack HUSSEIN Obama defended Kerry's vote for the Iraq war but now slams Clinton's vote. I saw your screed the first time around.

I respond--

I am not aware of Barack Obama "defending" Kerry's vote. What you are saying is inconsistent. Why would he "defend" Kerry's vote, while voting otherwise? If you would like to cite a reference that would be helpful. To quote the well quoted Reverend Wright, "He's a politician and I'm a pastor." Politics is politics-if Barack indeed said something similar to what you describe, I am only concerned in the final tally, with how HE voted. That is the track record that counts. But please, provide the citation or a link. I would like to read it.

Posted by: Think, Stupid | May 1, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Barry Obama defended Kerry's vote for the Iraq war but now slams Clinton's vote. That's anything but CONSISTENT!

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Think Stupid:

Do you understand now why your "plan to gamble" on the only man in the race who has been consistently correct, morally and otherwise on this important question is flawed? Or, do you need me to explain it using shorter words?

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

PUERTO RICO IS FOR HILARY CLINTON

Posted by: Rafael

You're the only dumb-ass one I know of. Why don't you got to school and learn to spell so that you understand the world around you, then be capable of making an informed decision. The word is 'definitely'

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Actually Bill Clinton, it's Think, Stupid, not Think Stupid.

Posted by: Think, Stupid | May 1, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Of course, no reasonable person would count "Uncommitted" votes in Michigan all for Obama -- unless you really think there were ZERO uncommitted voters -- does anyone really need me to get a dictionary out for the word "Uncommitted"?

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

To Jacksmith:
Jack, considering that Clinton was ahead of Obama by up to 25 points a couple of weeks before the primary in Penn. and he closed the gap to 9 points in less than two weeks (even with the pounding from the media) does not reflect a large sum of people rallying to a candidacy (Clinton's) in fact, it constitutes a large amount of people fleeing her candidacy. So though the win was decisive, it was not anywhere near as decisive as it should have been. Remember, she was supposed to win by double-digits?, well, she didn't.

And all this elitism bull, I'll tell you right now that racism is the worst form of elitism, thinking that one is "better" than another race of people by nature. And that is what you get with Hillary and her republican friends, racism.

Obama turned down lucrative Wall street job offers after graduating from Harvard to become a community organizer for 10k a year, does that sound like elitism to you?

Posted by: jr | May 1, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Think Stupid:

Barack HUSSEIN Obama defended Kerry's vote for the Iraq war but now slams Clinton's vote. I saw your screed the first time around.

LetthemdrinkCrownRoyal:

You mean "Obama won the caucus" right? The "estimate" at Real Clear Politics does indeed include caucus results: "*(Iowa, Nevada, Washington & Maine Have Not Released Popular Vote Totals. RealClearPolitics has estimated the popular vote totals for Senator Obama and Clinton in these four states. RCP uses the WA Caucus results from February 9 in this estimate because the Caucuses on February 9 were the "official" contest recognized by the DNC to determine delegates to the Democratic convention. The estimate from these four Caucus states where there are not official popular vote numbers increases Senator Obama's popular vote margin by 110,224. This number would be about 50,000 less if the Washington primary results from February 19th were used instead of the Washington Caucus results.)"

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

I stated that wrong. Clinton lost the caucus states by 500,000 votes. JakeD is not counting them, nor is he counting the uncommitted votes in Michigan for Obama,for which they have been assigned.

Posted by: LetthemdrinkCrownRoyal | May 1, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Think stupid:

My mom also told me that only ignorant people refuse to see the facts!


So you must think stupid.

Posted by: Bill Clinton | May 1, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Rafael:

Sorry for the confusion. "Him" in that post meant "Obama" before Hillary. While McCain is not anywhere close to my #1 choice, Obama is #300,000,000,000 and Hillary is #300,000,000,001.

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton

I assure you I am not stupid. As my mother used to say, name calling is a sign weakness.

Your comments:

"If you think that Obama is not a Fairytale for blacks!

YOU MUST BE STUPID"

Posted by: Bill Clinton | May 1, 2008 8:11 PM

Speak for themselves.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 8:24 PM | Report abuse

JakeD====you are conveniently forgetting to count all the states' votes where there were caucuses. Those people got to vote , too. Clinton won those by over 500,000 votes. You Clinton people are excellent at lying and twisting facts.

Posted by: LetthemdrinkCrownRoyal | May 1, 2008 8:24 PM | Report abuse

It's funny how the DNC will not count the Florida or Michigan votes but, Puerto Rico will be counted and it is not a state! That is a low blow by Howard Dean and the DNC. Take that Florida and Michigan Puerto Rico is more important than you!!!!

Posted by: Rafael | May 1, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Hillary's butt is waaaaaaaay too big for Lake Michigan--might swamp low lying island nations like Palau, and exacerbate the damaging effects of global warming.

Posted by: Think Stupid

Not if her mouth hits it first, she'll drain it!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

"LOL, Think Stupid -- what is "consistent" about defending John Kerry's vote for the Iraq war in 2004, saying "I don't know" re: voting for it himself had he been in the U.S. Senate at the time, and then when he gets into the U.S. Senate, voting the SAME EXACT way on the Iraq war issues as Hillary Clinton?"

I don't think you understand me correctly. I am not defending John Kerry. I am supporting Barack Obama. I said nothing about John Kerry.

Here it is if you want to take another look:

BTW, JakeD,

I believe that there is a very strong school of thought among historians that Truman did not need to authorize the use of nuclear weapons in order to bring the Japanese campaign in World War Two to a conclusion. The fire bombing of Tokyo apparently inflicted damage enough to decimate the economy and the nation's ability to continue.

It is now a common debate in high schools and colleges. To the effect that I or we should know whether one or the other course of action would have been more "humane" or "reasonable," I would posit that we will never know, because it didn't happen the other way.

If you are asking me philosophically, I have a difficult time reconciling the introduction of nuclear weapons period. I think the government knew what we were getiing into, having been warned of the many adverse effects and considerations by the scientists of the day.

If you ask me tactically, I would probably put forth the argument that the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was conceived as much as a warning to the Russians as an effort to quell the Japanese adversary. As such, the decision was one likely made out of weakness--after four years of all out war, I would contend that America was afraid of having to continue fighting against a new significant adversary of unknown power and large resource base.

Whether that was a fear based on fact, ignorance, politics or a calculation based on greed, I don't know. We do know what happened since. I think as people and as nations we tend to create our own realitites, so it seems plausible that a different course of action could have yielded different results. But again we will never know.

Likewise, did we need to invade Iraq for reasons humane or reasonable? Did we have the moral authority to do so? I say no. The American population was fed known lies to trump up a situation which provided some political relief to the Bush administration, and no doubt liberated billions in untraceable cash. Unfortunately compliant, docile and self interested politicians supported that disasterous course of action. It was a course of action that has wasted resources, threatened our basic rights and liberties at home, weakened America abroad and wrecked the economy. That McCain supports the Bush campaign in Iraq and that Hillary Clinton voted for it when it mattered and then tried to renegue is indeed unfortunate. There is no doubt in my mind that this is the central issue of the campaign. That Barack Obama did not vote for war funding does not qualify him in full to be President of the Uniter States, but he stands higher in my view that the others, because he did the right thing when it mattered, and that's what America needs right now after what I would suggest has been a criminally managed past eight years which threaten to reduce our country to third world status.

As with the question of Truman's legacy, we can't know for certain what the results would have been if we had taken a different course resulting from a). different intel and b). different values. But next time I plan to gamble on the only man in the race who has been consistently correct, morally and otherwise on this imortant question. That's Barack Obama.

Posted by: Think Stupid | May 1, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_H._Christ#Etymology

While many explanations have been proposed, some serious and many humorous, the most widely accepted derivation is from the divine monogram of Christian symbolism. The symbol, derived from the first three letters of the Greek name of Jesus (Ιησούς), is transliterated IHS, IHC, JHS or JHC. Since the transliteration IHS gave rise to the backronym Iesus Hominum Salvator (Latin for "Jesus savior of men"), it is plausible that JHC similarly led to Jesus H. Christ.

One factor in the transmutation of the monogram into the expression Jesus H. Christ may be that when the first syllable of Jesus Christ is strongly emphasised (as some speakers of English may do when cursing), the rhythm suggests a missing middle syllable between Jesus and Christ. The H may have been adopted from the monogram to fill this gap.

Other variations

The phrase Jesus H. Christ has been extended in many cases, both as a colloquialism, and in its use in television and film. For example, in the film The Blues Brothers, the character Jake exclaims, "Yes! Yes! Jesus H. tap-dancing Christ, I have seen the light!" in a moment of fervor. In Steven Spielberg's classic film Jaws, war veteran turned fisherman Quint frequently utters the phrase during the movie, usually in moments of frustration.

Another usage of the term implies that the H is an abbreviation for the name Harold, a play on words from the Lord's Prayer (the "Our Father") as if Harold were the name of Jesus' Father: "Our Father, who art in heaven, Harold be thy name ..."; thus, Harold is taken to be Jesus' middle name. Some think it stands for "Holy", but I've never heard of it as "Himself".

"Jesus H. Christ on a raft" can sometimes be heard from people from Newfoundland and other Atlantic provinces of Canada. This may be a reference to Christ's walk on water. Or perhaps this variant combines the exclamation with the (archaic) cafe slang term "Adam and Eve on a raft", which described two boiled eggs served on toast.

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

The fact is is it is a delegate rac, and by the numbers and the word on the street Clinton has already lost. Wait till it's Barack against McCain-McCain will then have HIS turn in the barrel. I really think the repubs have over-played their hand with this Wright nonsense. Remember, Wright was drawn out into the national scene.

And please stop saying "if the Florida and Mich votes counted" yeah, and if monkeys flew out of my a*s.

Posted by: jr | May 1, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Who is him? Obama or McCain?

Posted by: Rafael | May 1, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Wasn't Edwards still in the race when Michigan voted?

Posted by: jr | May 1, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Rafael:

I'd rather have him than her.

Andrew:

I hope so.

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

A Tipping Point for Barack Obama - or Just a Dip?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=2322


.

Posted by: Frank, Austin TX | May 1, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Bigotry is so old fashioned. The H stands for "Himself" as previously mentioned.

Posted by: Jesus H. Christ | May 1, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

LOL, Think Stupid -- what is "consistent" about defending John Kerry's vote for the Iraq war in 2004, saying "I don't know" re: voting for it himself had he been in the U.S. Senate at the time, and then when he gets into the U.S. Senate, voting the SAME EXACT way on the Iraq war issues as Hillary Clinton?!

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

It is baldly obvious when viewing Obama's ties to the church that Obama joined the Trinity church mainly for non-religious reasons, even if he was a religious person. It is from my understanding and what I've researched, that this is the only way for a black man in Chicago to break into politics. So in that respect I cannot condone Barack for what Wright does, he simply had to stick with Trinity to get to the place he needed to be so he could pursue his own objective. Which is to bring back the former prestige of the United States. There was once a time when the rest of the world looked up to the United States with admiration. Now we are looked upon with prejudice and pity.

Posted by: spnart | May 1, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

If you think that Obama is not a Fairytale for blacks!

YOU MUST BE STUPID

Posted by: Bill Clinton | May 1, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

What does the 'H' stand for in Jesus H Christ?

Just curious...

"Hussein"

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA IS A FAIRYTALE FOR BLACKS

These comments don't get any smarter as the afternoon wears on, do they. I'm white. My reasons for voting for Obama are detailed above in my comments on Truman, The Bomb, Iraq, and Obama's candidacy. Posted by: Think Stupid | May 1, 2008 7:51 PM

It's no fairy tale brotha...

Posted by: Think Stupid | May 1, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

DEBATE! DEBATE!! DEBATE!!!

It's time for everyone to face the truth. Barack Obama has no real chance of winning the national election in November at this time. His crushing defeat in Pennsylvania makes that fact crystal clear. His best, and only real chance of winning in November is on a ticket with Hillary Clinton as her VP.

Hillary Clinton seemed almost somber at her Pennsylvania victory speech. As if part of her was hoping Obama could have proved he had some chance of winning against the republican attack machine, and their unlimited money, and resources.

But it is absolutely essential that the democrats take back the Whitehouse in November. America, and the American people are in a very desperate condition now. And the whole World has been doing all that they can to help keep us propped up.

Hillary Clinton say's that the heat, and decisions in the Whitehouse are much tougher than the ones on the campaign trail. But I think Mr. Obama faces a test of whether he has what it takes to be a commander and chief by facing the difficult facts, and the truth before him. And by doing what is best for the American people by dropping out of the race, and offering his whole hearted assistance to Hillary Clinton to help her take back the Whitehouse for the American people, and the World.

Mr. Obama is a great speaker. And I am confident he can explain to the American people the need, and wisdom of such a personal sacrifice for them. It should be clear to everyone by now that Hillary Clinton is fighting her heart out for the American people. She has known for a long time that Mr. Obama can not win this November. You have to remember that the Clinton's have won the Whitehouse twice before. They know what it takes.

If Mr. Obama fails his test of commander and chief we can only hope that Hillary Clinton can continue her heroic fight for the American people. And that she prevails. She will need all the continual support and help we can give her. She may fight like a superhuman. But she is only human.

Sen. Hillary Clinton: "You know, more people have now voted for me than have voted for my opponent. In fact, I now have more votes than anybody has ever had in a primary contest for a nomination. And it's also clear that we've got nine more important contests to go."

Sincerely

Jacksmith... Working Class :-)

Posted by: jacksmith | May 1, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

PUERTO RICO IS FOR HILARY CLINTON

Posted by: Rafael | May 1, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Oh come on Jon. You really think so? He's a lot smarter than that.
That's just tired old culture war propaganda.

Posted by: Obama Mio | May 1, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA IS A FAIRYTALE FOR BLACKS

Posted by: Bill Clinton | May 1, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

"I am so sick of David Axelrod and his thugs man manipulating the press, and I'm sick of Axelrod's efforts to tarnish Bill Clinton's legacy."
---Posted by: Tyrone Jenkins | May 1, 2008 4:20 PM

Guffaw!
Here's more proof of the Clinton campaign's Rovian tactics, as if anyone needed any more....

Sidney Blumenthal Uses Former Right-Wing Foes To Attack Obama
"...acting as a senior campaign advisor to Senator Clinton, Blumenthal is exploiting that same right-wing network to attack and discredit Barack Obama. And he's not hesitating to use the same sort of guilt-by-association tactics that have been the hallmark of the political right dating back to the McCarthy era."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-dreier/sidney-blumenthal-uses-fo_b_99695.html

"Clinton advisers have not held a bash-Obama conference call for a week now -- after months when they held near-daily calls with reporters to pounce on Mr. Obama about everything, including Mr. Wright."
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/01/us/politics/01clinton.html?pagewanted=2

Posted by: Boomerang | May 1, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

People keep confusing Wright's racist comments with Obama's personal beliefs. I'm someone who will vote for McCain in the fall, but I'll defend Obama's beliefs against the idea that he shares Wright's hateful views of our country. I believe Obama does not share Wright's views.

That said, I do believe Obama showed a complete lack of judgment by selecting such a hateful bigot for a pastor when there are so many churches in America to choose from, and he stayed, somehow ignorant of Wright's true beliefs, for 20 years. For someone whom claims better judgment than McCain and Clinton, he didn't prove it here.

Additionally, Obama's painfully sloth-like reaction to Wright's hateful spin clearly shows his green-ness in politics. He's a raw recruit compared to McCain and Clinton, whom are, like them or not, veteran politicians. Obama is a quick learner, but slow to commence needed action, and while I think he's learning his lessons from the succession of blows wounding his campaign, too many more such lessons may sink his ship. In summary, he's learning, but he's taking serious damage at the same time, and there's no telling how much more punishment the vessel can take. The danger for Obama is that by the time he learns how to fight he'll be the captain of an irreversably damaged ship, and his campaign will sink beneath the unforgiving political waves.

Unless Clinton tells more lies about Bosnia over the weekend, I think the rougly 8-10% of undecided voters in N. Carolina and Indiana will surprise everyone and hand Obama two more defeats in light if the huge hole blown in the hull of his campaign vessel by that pirate Jeremiah Wright.

My prediction:

Indiana: Clinton 54%, Obama 46%

N. Carolina: Clinton 51%, Obama 49%

Posted by: Andrew | May 1, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

That was a brilliant summation of the obvious. You just left out the part about the math. Hillary might steal it but she can't win enough pledged delegates to seal the deal. The last I looked we keep score by delegates and even the supers are breaking Baracks way over 2:1 despite all the hand wringing.

Posted by: YellerDog | May 1, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Obama is very out of touch with working class caucasians. They don't 'cling' to religion...They go to church. They don't 'cling' to guns, they enjoy hunting.

They also don't 'cling' to fishing poles...they enjoy fishing. (Lol)

Obama's lack of appreciation for working class caucasians shows very clearly that he is a divider, and not at all a uniter as he constantly claims.

Also we have seen his judgement is actually frequently poor and not at all superior. Thus, his whole reason for being President has been blown out of the water.

William Ayers, his buddy, tried to kill a judge's entire family...including his children!

William Ayers was not sorry for his acts of domestic terrorism, he said he wished he would have done more!!

Posted by: Jon | May 1, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

tydicea, let's try to get you some wings.

Posted by: Jesus Obama | May 1, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Ha ha. LW. You're going to hell.

Posted by: Jesus H. Christ | May 1, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

A lot of people keep asking these days, "Who would Jesus vote for?"

Vote for my brother and help turn Hillary Clinton into a pillar of salt.

I'm Jesus Obama and I approved this message.
Posted by: Jesus Obama

Had to post this again, lol!

Posted by: tydicea | May 1, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Do Hillary and Posted by: | May 1, 2008 7:39 PM get it on?

Posted by: Well Meaning and Kind American | May 1, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Jake D

Listen I am not for Clinton but, I rather have her than him (Obama)! I think her game is to destry Obama and she will win in 2012 against McCain or if somehow she wins this primary then I think she will defenetly win in November of 2008.

Posted by: Rafael | May 1, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

LOL, Rafael -- hopefully not -- besides, he won't appoint anyone if Clinton wins the nomination ; )

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

BTW, JakeD,

I believe that there is a very strong school of thought among historians that Truman did not need to authorize the use of nuclear weapons in order to bring the Japanese campaign in World War Two to a conclusion. The fire bombing of Tokyo apparently inflicted damage enough to decimate the economy and the nation's ability to continue.

It is now a common debate in high schools and colleges. To the effect that I or we should know whether one or the other course of action would have been more "humane" or "reasonable," I would posit that we will never know, because it didn't happen the other way.

If you are asking me philosophically, I have a difficult time reconciling the introduction of nuclear weapons period. I think the government knew what we were getiing into, having been warned of the many adverse effects and considerations by the scientists of the day.

If you ask me tactically, I would probably put forth the argument that the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was conceived as much as a warning to the Russians as an effort to quell the Japanese adversary. As such, the decision was one likely made out of weakness--after four years of all out war, I would contend that America was afraid of having to continue fighting against a new adversary of unknown power and significant resource base.

Whether that was a fear based on fact, ignorance, politics or a calculation based on greed, I don't know. We do know what happened since. I think as people and as nations we tent to create our own realitites, so it seems plausible that a different course of action could have yielded different results. But again we will never know.

Likewise, did we need to invade Iraq for reasons human or reasonable? Did we have the moral authority to do it? I say no. The american population was fed known lies to trump up a situation which provided some political relief and no doubt liberated billions in untraceable cash. Unfortunately compliant, docile and self interested politicians supported that disasterous course of action. It was a course of action that has wasted resources, threatened our basic rights at home, weakened America abroadd and wrecked the economy. That McCain supports the Bush campaign in Iraq and that Hillary Clinton voted for it when it mattered and then renegued is indeed unfortunate. There is no doubt in my mind that this is the central issue of the campaign. That Barcak Obama did not vote for war funding does not qualify him in full to be President of the Uniter States, but he stands higher in my view that the others, because he did the right thing when it mattered, and that's what America needs right now after what I would suggest has been a criminally managed past eight years that threaten to reduce our country to third world status.

As with the question of Truman's legacy, we can't knw for certain what the results would have been if we had taken a different course resulting from a). different intel and b). different values. But next time I plan to gamble on the only man in the race who has been consistently in the right, morally and otherwise o this imortant question. That's Barack Obama.

Posted by: Think Stupid | May 1, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

MY FELLOW "BITTER", STUPID, WORKING CLASS PEOPLE :-)

If you think like Barack Obama, that WORKING CLASS PEOPLE are just a bunch of "BITTER"!, STUPID, PEASANTS, Cash COWS!, and CANNON FODDER. :-(

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary's than they had ever been before or since.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton. :-)

Best regards

jacksmith... Working Class :-)

p.s. You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you don't know that the huge amounts of money funding the Obama campaign to try and defeat Hillary Clinton is coming in from the insurance, and medical industry, that has been ripping you off, and killing you and your children. And denying you, and your loved ones the life saving medical care you needed. All just so they can make more huge immoral profits for them-selves off of your suffering...

You see, back in 1993 Hillary Clinton had the audacity, and nerve to try and get quality, affordable universal health care for everyone to prevent the suffering and needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of you each year. :-)

Approx. 100,000 of you die each year from medical accidents from a rush to profit by the insurance, and medical industry. Another 120,000 of you die each year from treatable illness that people in other developed countries don't die from. And I could go on, and on...

OBAMA AIDE: "WORKING-CLASS VOTERS NOT KEY FOR DEMOCRATS" :o

DEBATE! DEBATE!! DEBATE!!!...

Posted by: jacksmith | May 1, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

You said he wont appoint those so you mean worst people than that?

God help us!

Posted by: Rafael | May 1, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

At least Obama can work a coffee machine! Hey Goldilocks, the 3 bears want their red phone back. They said that when you were staying with them, you kept answering it and yelling something about snipers in Bosnia!

Posted by: Sueb2 | May 1, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

WPI:

You understand the facts. I agree he will never win a GE. That is the only fact in this blog!

Posted by: Rafael | May 1, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

What is "worst"?

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

JAKE D you mean it is worst ????

God help us!

Posted by: Rafael | May 1, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Obama will never win in a GE. Everything about his campaign is being revealed as a fraud. If the DNC doesn't count fl and mi the democratic party is finished. Remember the new kind of politic's guy refuse's to agree to allow a fair re-do. So they should count as they voted. To bad he took his name off the mi ballot so he could pander to the ia voters. Wright was right he's a politican who say anything for vote's

Posted by: wpi | May 1, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

All of them Jake D all of them!!!

Posted by: Rafael | May 1, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Well Meaning and Kind American:

Shut up.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Newest Obama scandal that has been overshadowed by Wright, but is about to hit the fan!

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-killerspin27apr27,0,6789688.story

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Rafael:

I doubt he would appoint any of those.

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

"Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it."

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Jake D you saw Obamas Cabinet?

NO TO OBAMA 2008

Posted by: Rafael | May 1, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Obama will win the nomination but, he wont win in November. Why? Three words:

McGovern
Dukakis
Kerry

Posted by: Rafael | May 1, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Obamas Cabinett:

Rev. Wright for VP
Henry Ayers for Homeland Security Director
Michell Obama for Race Adviser to Obama
George Soros As the Fed Chairman
Michael Moore for Secretary Of State
Ted Kennedy for Secratary of Justice
Al Franken IRS Director
John Kerry US Ambassador to Vietnam
Keith Olberman WH Press Secretary

OBAMA YOU LEFTIEST ELITE!!!

Posted by: Rafael | May 1, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

I like Hillary's big ole butt. More cushin' for the pushin'!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Come on people you know I can't win I am black!

Posted by: Barack H Obama | May 1, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Think Stupid:

Shouldn't you be out today protesting somewhere for the Commies?

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA CAN"T WIN HE IS BLACK!

Posted by: Dr. Rice | May 1, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Bye Bye Mr. American Lie!

A long, long time ago
I remember how Obama used to make me smile
And I knew if he had a chance
He would put me in a trance
Then maybe I'd be hopey for a while.

But March it made me shiver
each time the Reverend would deliver
Another stupid racist rant
I couldn't take one more chant
I can't remember if I cried
when I read about how he had lied
Something touched me deep inside
the day Obama was fried.

So bye bye Mr. American lie
Drove my Chevy to the levy
but my gas tank was dry and all the little kids we're drinking koolaid and rye
singing this will be the day that we die,
this will be the day that we die.

Did you Wright the book of Black
and do you have faith in my Barack
If Michele tells you so?
Now do you have faith in change and hope and can Barry save you from the Pope and
Can he teach you how to faint real slow?

Now I know that you're in love with him
But with Hillary his lead is slim,
She won't quit till he's through
And he don't know what to do! Oooh!

He was a poor lil' Kenyan with a lot of luck, a gangly wife and a pastor that sucks,
We all knew he was out of luck, the day Obama was fried!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

I know JakeD, we've all had a line or two, haven't we. You seem a little prickly today.


Posted by: Think Stupid | May 1, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Hillary's butt is waaaaaaaay too big for Lake Michigan--might swamp low lying island nations like Palau, and exacerbate the damaging effects of global warming.

Posted by: Think Stupid | May 1, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Less Entitled Politicians for More Less Entitled Politicians:

Careful using his middle name or you will get called out as a "racist" -- mark my words -- he will not be sworn in as President on January 20, 2009.

Think Stupid:

Technically, those are TWO wordS (plural) -- that's why I gave you an example that Truman was a "peace maker" even though he had to drop two A-bombs -- do I need to teach you simple math as well?

P.S. try reading a 1st grade book, first, before you tackle Obama's own autobiography where he ADMITTED to cocaine use.

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Taking care of Michigan gonna be a little tougher...maybe a tsunami...need something really big to drop in the lake...maybe Hillary's butt...wonder how high I have to get her for the splash I need?

Posted by: LW | May 1, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

You allegations about crack use by Obama are unsubstatiated and likely racially motivated based on meaningless and insulting stereotypes and a diminished power of reasoning probably brought about by over consumption of alcohol.

Posted by: Think Stupid | May 1, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

"can will" = "can win"

(of course, the same argument can be made that Hillary DIANE Clinton will not be able to win if 96% of African-Americans vote for McCain too ; )

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Seriously JakeD, we don't know what the word peace maker means.

Posted by: Think Stupid | May 1, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Ladies and Gentlemen (supposedly), The President of the United States of America, Barack Hussein Obama.

Get used to it.

Posted by: Less Entitled Politicians for More Less Entitled Politicians | May 1, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Think Stupid:

Unlike Barack HUSSEIN Obama, I've never done hard drugs like crack. As for what "peace maker" means, it speaks volume that none of you can (or will) answer whether Harry S Truman was a "peace maker" ...

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Clinton can't win because she's white. Duh.

Posted by: Typical White Person for Obama | May 1, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Dr. Rice can't govern.

Posted by: Black Bingo Players for Common Sense | May 1, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

laloo:

How do you suppose Barack HUSSEIN Obama can will in November if all those "fu**ers who vote for Hillary" vote for John SIDNEY McCAIN instead?

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Gee, I don't know what "Peace Maker' really means. Wow.

What are you f***ing off your crack?

Posted by: Think Stupid | May 1, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Obama can't win in November he is black.

Posted by: Dr. Rice | May 1, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

"thinkresults:

Did you not know that Obama's middle name was HUSSEIN?"

No there's a real intellectual powerhouse. Yup. Thanks for the enlightenment.

Ho much do I owe you, Think Results?

Posted by: think stupid | May 1, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

JakeD...I can take care of the Florida issue. Gonna bottle me up a good ol' California earthquake, send it to Florida and break off the whole damn penisula. It can lay down there in the Bermuda Triangle with the rest of the ghosts. Ghost votes don't count...problem solved.

Posted by: LW | May 1, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Billw:

It is "too bad" (and fairly sad too) that I have to ask that question, as those who are posting in favor of Obama being a peace maker have no idea what the words mean.

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

all the fu**ers here who vote for Hillary, please go ahead. barack is winning anyway :)

Posted by: laloo | May 1, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

swalker:

If you really think that counting of ANY votes from Michigan and Florida is dumb, please let DNC Chairman, Howard Dean, and the members of the Credentials Committee know ASAP ; )

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Would black people vote for a KKK member for president? Then why should we white people vote for Obama?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Dan Balz:

Please stop inflicting us with Wright. There is no news, there is no story. Move on.

"The Clinton campaign seized Thursday on a round of new polls to drive their argument that the tide is turning. During a conference call with reporters, the Clinton officials cited new Quinnipiac University surveys from Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida to argue that Clinton is now stronger than Obama in a race against McCain in those three critical swing states."

Arguments about the race in November are pointless. Especially this one, where she focuses on three states, one of which has not yet had a chance to meet Obama. But, in polls across the US, Obama has led, with an occasional dip on a bad Wright day. But, he bounces back. Obama will have several months to bring the party back together and compare himself with McCain. He'll do fine.

Posted by: Kiku | May 1, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

I hope Obama wins as he is about the only breath of fresh air North American politics has had since...JFK or Pierre Trudeau(on our side). My fear is that too many Americans still remain, late at night and all alone, too afraid to ultimately elect a non-Caucasian to the highest office in their land.

Posted by: Murray the canuck | May 1, 2008 6:51 PM
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Not at all Murray, I think Obama's intitial success would discredit you. We are too afraid to elect a non-Caucasian that hates white people, that much is true.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse


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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

thinkresults:

Did you not know that Obama's middle name was HUSSEIN?

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Since so many people are asking, even though I am dead, I will tell you that Buddha, Mohammed, Peacemaker, and I were sitting around with Abraham Lincoln, Ronald Reagan, and Thomas Jefferson playing Pinochle the other day waiting for John McCain.

And at first we thought maybe we ought to send one of those Kennedy boys back to help out on Earth, but since our brother Barack Obama's got it going on, we're comfortable that all of those increasingly undereducated and impoverished Americans would be in better hands with a relative newcomer who has some sense of moral dignity at the helm, like Mr. Obama.

By the way please tell Bill Clinton that heaven's kitchen is no longer serving cheeseburgers. Perhaps he would like to try the barbeque place down the block.

My Best as Always,

Jesus H Christ

Posted by: Jesus H. Christ | May 1, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

This is all just wishful thinking on the part of the Clintonites. There is no "tipping point." It's over.

it sure is...it doesn't matter if Obama "wins" or "loses" Indiana... or any of the remaining primaries. He's so far ahead, that Clinton, even if she "wins" every remaining primary by 70% will still be behind...she cannot win...it is over. Barack Obama has already won.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Jesus H. Christ...I thought maybe it was HUSSEIN

I like it!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

This is all just wishful thinking on the part of the Clintonites. There is no "tipping point." It's over.

According to CNN's count, Obama is now within 293 delegates of the 2025 needed for the nomination. By the Obama campaign's own count it's even closer, just 283 away. Guam will likely split its delegates 2-2, or at most 3-1 in either direction. Win or lose the popular vote in North Carolina and Indiana next Tuesday, Obama will likely come out of those states with at least 90 additional elected delegates, and possibly 100 or more, with 6 contests and 217 elected delegates still on the table. He's heavily favored in Oregon, South Dakota, and Montana, while Clinton is favored in Kentucky, West Virginia, and Puerto Rico. But let's say, really conservatively, he only gets another 100 out of the 217 elected delegates available. That means he'll need only about 100 or so of the 297 remaining uncommitted superdelegates. At that point he'll have won a clean majority of the elected delegates, a majority of the states, and a majority of the popular vote (not counting the flawed and illegal votes in Florida and Michigan where neither candidate campaigned, and where the results were skewed by the fact that lots of people, especially Obama supporters stayed home because they were told it didn't count).

Does anyone seriously think Clinton will get upwards of 2/3 of the remaining superdelegates at that point, when there's been a clear trend toward Obama among superdelegates for the last three months? When it's rumored Obama already has dozens of additional superdelegates lined up, waiting for the right moment to announce their support, and the Clinton campaign is fighting a desperate rearguard action just to try to keep superdelegates from revealing their preferences? It's just not going to happen for Clinton. It's downright delusional to think there's even a slim chance it might.

Posted by: Brad K | May 1, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse


OBAMA HAS ALREADY WON !

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DELEGATE CALCULATOR:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/29/delegate.counter/index.html


I know that Hillary's demographics favor the un-educated...but try doing the math (you can do it!)....even if Clinton wins EVERY primary by 70% (which isn't going to happen)..she would still be behind Obama.

OBAMA HAS ALREADY WON !

get used to it,

or just keep throwing tantrums ..it won't change a thing.

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Like it or not: Obama is the Democratic nominee

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Dan Balz:

"There are signs that the multiple controversies that have hit Obama over the past weeks are hurting his candidacy, both for the nomination and for the general election. A CBS-New York Times poll shows an erosion of confidence in his ability to prevail in the nomination battle, despite the clear advantages he enjoys against Clinton. Doubts about his values and his patriotism have grown in the past two months, adding to potential concerns about how he would fare in the general election."

Of course, with non-stop negative coverage by the MSM, and having to battle two candidates at once, that would be expected. The big story is really that he hasn't dipped further. And, Clinton's ratings have gone down even farther. She still has incredible negatives, and that's without the bad press. Imagine what would happen to her once the Republican's unleashed their storm of information on the scandals and money for influence peddaling. McCain will be golden.

Posted by: Kiku | May 1, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Jesus H. Christ...I thought maybe it was HUSSEIN

Posted by: LW | May 1, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

"At least Hillarys lie was stupid and not about her core issues"

no, you're right, Hillary has been honest about her core issue

which is that she wants to be president, will say, and do anything to achieve that goal: anything.
Her mantra is: me, me, me, me me, me, etc.
oh,
and also:
fight!, fight!, fight!, fight!, fight!, etc.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

The Dems tactic is to trickle out the Super D's for BO. They want this thing o-v-e-r but, they want the folks to think they are voting for the result. But, they don't want the folks votes dragging this thing on. They are just playing a game. The Dems are fed up with BO too but, they know this is a Democratic year and they expect even with all of his problems, BO will likely win the general election.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Demonstrating that he was indeed the agent of change, Obama never heard Wright's divisive comments because he was outside the congregation changing diapers.

I wonder if he ran into Al Gore on an iced tea generated break at any of those times.

Posted by: Ed | May 1, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

I hope Obama wins as he is about the only breath of fresh air North American politics has had since...JFK or Pierre Trudeau(on our side). My fear is that too many Americans still remain, late at night and all alone, too afraid to ultimately elect a non-Caucasian to the highest office in their land.

Posted by: Murray the canuck | May 1, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Demonstrating that he was indeed the agent of change, Obama never heard Wright's divisive comments because he was outside the congregation changing diapers.

I wonder if he ran into Al Gore on an iced tea generated break at any of those times.

Posted by: Ed | May 1, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Dan Balz:

"Meanwhile, Barack Obama has faced more bad news over his relationship with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. The controversy over Wright's views and whether Obama did enough soon enough to break with his pastor has added enormously to the pressure on him to use next Tuesday's primaries in Indiana and North Carolina to demonstrate that he has fought his way through the troubles."

Actually, the Wright issue has worked well for Obama. It may have slightly damaged him over the weekend, but two supers have already switched to Obama because he handled himself with dignity, and has done so before, as with the race speech.

This issue is done. Please stop peddaling it as something important, there's nothing more to say.

Posted by: Kiku | May 1, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

What is Obama campaign about. Words, Yep. He said words matter. Hope, Change, Above the fray. and No more politics as usual. Sounds good. right. What if you knew those words were lies.
They are. On the MSNBC debate he, along with Edwards aggressively attacked Clinton. Up to that debate, there was no negativity in the election, None. The night before the debate Chris Matthews commented that the debates were to nice. He wanted to see some action. He did. Rev. Wright told us he was a typical politician and that politicians have to say and do what politicians do.

The corner stones of his campaign are lies.
If he lies about these corner stones he will lie about anything.

He has told so many lies about his pastor, you might need a calculator to number them.
When did he first hear these comments? Who knows. He has told 4 or 5 versions. What a liar. At least Hillarys lie was stupid and not about her core issues

Posted by: Chief | May 1, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

It stands for Himself.

Posted by: Jesus H. Christ | May 1, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Dan Balz:

This article is full of illogical arguments and misspeaks ala Hillary.

"By almost any measure, she met expectations in the Keystone State, after exceeding them in Ohio and in the popular vote in Texas. Her campaign grabbed hold of those results to push back talk that she should quit the race."

No, not quite, she needed 20% to maintain viability, and she got half of that. Given that it was her demographic and she had family there, that she couldn't do better was an incredible loss for her, although that's not how the press is playing it.

Ohio and Texas were boosted by the chaos effect. Obama still won Texas. And Ohio was again just a 10%.

Her campaign did grab hold of the results to push back the campaign, but she would have done that even if she had lost, because there is a microscopic chance that something unseen will happen, but not likely, given that Superdelegates are now resistant to the media and Hillary spin. They can read her negatives themselves.

Posted by: Kiku | May 1, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Why is there any surprise about politics as usual. The same old stuff applied to a new candidate--Wow! How new is that? As if we didn't see it coming, was just a matter of time. Now that sh*t's hit the fan we just have to see where the flies land. My guess is Billary will be covered, even without comparable coverage by the pundit news assassinators. Yes Obama's been taken aback--lets see what happens when McCain or Billary get vetted in the same manner.

Best of all we have Billary to fan the flames.

A student Karl Rove can be proud of...

The Buddha said that the one who casts a hot coal, is the one most burned.

Posted by: yakmon | May 1, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

You'll win this; and if you don't, you'll know that, unlike your opponents, you fought a fair, honest fight.

...but he will. He's already won the nomination...and he'll cream McCain.

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The 44th president of the United States

.........PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

What does the 'H' stand for in Jesus H Christ?

Just curious...

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

"Hillary Clinton still has needs to win North Carolina also. Lets not forget that fact. She is so busy sucking up to scared white people (LOL) that she is forgetting all the black votes that got her husband a presidency and her senate seat. FUNNEE!"

No, she just knows that they weren't going to vote for her anyway.

Posted by: kws | May 1, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

What about Hillary's craven pandering with her "gas tax holiday"? That's a campaign strategy to get votes not a solution. Only Obama has the leadership to tell voters the hard truth. So Chief-- what's more important- Obama's relationship to Wright, which will have absolutely no impact on you or me if Obama is elected- or Hilary proposing policy to get votes which she knows will only make the underlying problem worse. She is betting you won't figure out she duped you until after the election.

Posted by: Margie | May 1, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

It doesn't matter who I'd vote for I'm dead.

Posted by: Jesus H. Christ | May 1, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Those beatitude babies are supposed to wait until the kingdom of heaven for their blessing. Another example of Obama jumping the shark.

Posted by: Ed | May 1, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Ahh, I see the Hillary attack brigade is out in force...

Stay the course, Obama. You still have my vote, and my (continuing) financial support. You're by far the most honest, straightforward, and principled of the candidates.

You'll win this; and if you don't, you'll know that, unlike your opponents, you fought a fair, honest fight.

Posted by: Tom C | May 1, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Can we really trust Hillary who
hides behind the skirts of the bullies within the
mainstream media that are running
and 24/7 racist campaign?


Is this the American Dream that
we all grew up to endeavor for our children?


Has Hillary stepped forward in
protest of this sickening campaign?!

No... Hillary Clinton is the Core of all that is Evil.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

JakeD,

The counting of ANY votes from Michigan and Florida is dumb. Hillary herself said that those primaries "Do not count for anything". Of course that was until she started losing and suddenly decided how important those voter were...for her.

Posted by: swalker | May 1, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Newsflash, Hillary and Achmadenijad are the same person.

Posted by: Fox News | May 1, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Who would Jesus vote for?

"He would have Achmadenijad over for tea and a chat"


BLESSED ARE THE PEACE MAKERS

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Do Hillary and Achmadenijad get it on? What about Mrs. Achmadenijad?

Posted by: Well Meaning and Kind American | May 1, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Nobody knows who Hillary gets is on with!

Posted by: Well Meaning and Kind American | May 1, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Media is full of you know what!!!!
KEEP IT UP Let the Media keep us distracted by these stupid articles.
They love it, it give them POWER!

Posted by: GHM | May 1, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

He would have Achmadenijad over for tea and a chat.

Posted by: Ed | May 1, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA HAS ALREADY WON !

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DELEGATE CALCULATOR:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/29/delegate.counter/index.html

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Do Hillary and the Trilateral Commission get it on?

Posted by: Well Meaning and Kind American | May 1, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

The Clintons have lost!!!! They are staying in the race to try to destroy Obama so they can have another shot at a 3rd term in 2012.

Posted by: Lilly1 | May 1, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

It's amazing how Obama took on the entrenched proponents of government opacity, fought the opacity lobbyists and alienated the opaque fringe of his own party to get that Transparency in Government bill passed.

Did that pass before or after the sense of the Senate bill honoring mothers of disabled veterans?

Posted by: Ed | May 1, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

What would Obama do if for example Iran is to go nuclear. American presidency is not for jokers.

Posted by: saeed | May 1, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

"Sorry but, thanks the Rev. for a McCain win in November."

I dunno about a republican win this fall.... But you can thank the Clinton campaign and the scandal-hungry commercial news media for trumping all of this up for short term political gain, campaign donations, ratings, internet hits and readership numbers.

In fact, I have to blame the commercial news media more so than the Clinton campaign for this. They are the ones most responsible for shoving this stuff in our faces day after day after day. They want to keep it alive to keep our eyes on their websites, newspapers and television programs.

When people look back on this time in retrospect, the commercial news media will have much to answer for, just like they did based on their favorable coverage of the lead up to, and the first two years of, the Iraq war.

Remember when the NYT and then other papers finally said, in statements to readers, "Oh, we're sorry that our early war coverage was misguided. Please forgive us. We won't do it again."

Uh huh. Sure.

Posted by: Old Hippie | May 1, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Hillary and Claudine DO get it on.

Posted by: Well Meaning and Kind American | May 1, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Do Hillary and Rev. Marcia Dyson get it on?

Do Hillary and Sheila Jackson Lee get it on?

Do Hilary and Ed Rendell get it on?

Posted by: Well Meaning and Kind American | May 1, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

I wish all those Clintonites would check out PAUL V CLINTON, this case is going to hit them between the eyes, and it's a felony if they rule in favor of Paul. He has Hillary Clinton on tape, you won't see it on any of the news stations because their too tied to the Clinton's and so they keep mum. Bet you'll all be so happy if Shillery gets the nod and spend four years in court, good luck you all!

Posted by: Sue F | May 1, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

....it's like talking to people who think the earth is flat...you can show them the numbers, you can try and explain that Clinton can no longer win....and they just keep babbling nonsense....Obama, this, Obama that...

HILLARY CLINTON HAS ALREADY LOST

it's impossible for her to catch up, even if you throw in Mich & Fla delegates...she cannot win...

do the math

"but the world looks flat...."

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

JakeD:
"Was Harry S Truman a "peace maker" when he dropped two A-bombs?"

You have to ask??? Too bad.

Thousands in the 5th Marine Division thought so, along with thousands and thousands of other service men.

Posted by: Billw | May 1, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

I also note that I don't count the uncommitted in Michigan for Obama, so therefore sorry for being dumb.

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

We need to threaten the above
delegates, that if they vote for
Hillary Clinton they'll be
jeapordizing their political careers.

Hillary and Bill Clinton are
shameless lobbyist Pigs...

Their main objective is to meet
the corporate expectations and
screw the masses. We've seen that
sort of political fallout over
the past 8 years. For that matter
we've seen this since the Clintons
took the White House for a 2nd
term.

28 years of Neo-Conservative
policies have given this country
a hernia. We need to heal and
strengthen our pride in a seriously wounded nation that used to pride itself on being about freedom and liberty.


Obama '08


Any other choice is a cheapening of the American Dream.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Do Hillary and Louis Farrakhan get it on?

Posted by: Well Meaning and Kind American | May 1, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Claudine, I think you need to work on those anger management issues.

Posted by: Psychiatrists for Better Voting Results | May 1, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

I just can't see how so many other Dems don't see the same thing. If a guy lies about his major policy promises he will lie about anything.

Posted by: Chief | May 1, 2008 6:05 PM

1. Not a lie.

2. Hillary's lies and deceit reach to enormous heights.

3. Obama has not pandered or lied about gas taxes. Hillary has.

Hillary can be trusted in only one respect: She will remain an old-style politician and will do ANYTHING to win.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

You Obamanites amazing. Aren't Obama's key campaign issues Hope, change, being above the fray, and no more politics as usual. Isn't that the core issues of his campaign?
That is what I've heard him say until I'm about sick.

Did he and Edwards not go on the MSNBC debate and attack Hillary. It is on tape.
Is that a new hope, change, above the fray, or not politics as usual. Pure BS and lie.
You don't even give a name. I don't blame you. Were he my candidate I wouldn't want anyone knowing I was that dumb either.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Neighbours,
how come that none of you relate or talk about the relationship between Rev. Wright and the people listed below:
* Rev. Marcia Dyson, strong supporter of the Clinton's
* Sheila Jackson Lee, strong supporter of the Clinton's
* The invitation of the Clinton's to Rev. wright to the White House for prayers during the impeachment procedures of Bill Clinton.
* How come that we do not talk about the relationship of Ed Rendell (PA)strong supporter of the Clintos's and Louis Farrakhan and the nations of Islam.

No too many of you addresses these facts, not to many press agencies. Very curious.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

For the last time: NOTHING is impossible.

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

ALEX H.:

ummmmm - OK - like "millions" have left any party because of any candidates' "sleazy" connections. Keep dreaming. This PALES in comparison to whatever candidate you are rooting for - if any.

I only caught the end of your blather so forgive me if I am "out of context" - which I am sure you would agree is the wrong thing to do. I did try to read from the top (why oh why) until you then immediately lost me at "hussein".

Posted by: thinkresults | May 1, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse


OBAMA HAS ALREADY WON !

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DELEGATE CALCULATOR:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/29/delegate.counter/index.html

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Do Hillary and Dr. Barbara Reynolds get it on?

Posted by: Well Meaning and Kind American | May 1, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

There are no unanswered questions about Rev. Wright. Take a look at Obama's life and his public record. He's the opposite of Wright in every way. The media needs to get their heads out of their asses, except MSNBC because their heads are actually welded into their asses.

Posted by: Lianne in AZ | May 1, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Hmmmmm... Maybe if Hillary played the sax on MTV?

No - I think the country is tired enough of the Clintons' "instruments".

Posted by: treetopflyer | May 1, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Hey WAPO why not go and really Investigate
this shady dealing sleazy pathological liar
self admitted cocaine addict phony two bit
Chicago political machine stooge,and Mayor
Daley Errand Boy Barack Hussein Obama and
all his sleazy crooked deals from day one
and that includes his crooked grant Obama
got for his wife's employer and then how
Obama wife Michelle Obama suddenly got a
huge six figure salary will you? And go ask
Barack Hussein Obama's Chief Backers The
Democrat Party Axis Of Weasels Nancy Pelosi
and Howard Dean and Harry Reid why they even ever came up with a loser like Obama?
The people want to know here WAPO ok?

Posted by: Claudine | May 1, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

foo:

Let compare hypotheticals, shall we:

1) My hypothetical to count Florida and Michigan actually works within the CURRENT rules already in place -- the Credentials Committee will, in fact, vote on it at the Convention if the issue is not resolved before then -- Howard Dean has stated that issue will be resolved (he hopes sooner rather than later) and those delegates will be seated: http://www.palmbeachpost.com/politics/content/state/epaper/2008/04/02/dnc0402.html

2) You hypothetical to do away with the super delegates all together (while conceiveable for 2012), not so much.

Nice try though.

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Come on guys, nobody can tell me who Hillary's doing....

What else don't we know about her?

Posted by: Well Meaning and Kind American | May 1, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

tired of hearing hearing reporters bring up wright, how long will it go on the media asks? ask yourselves I say, youre the ones writing the articles. Why dont you start pouncing on Clinton and McCain, go investigate their preacherrs Hagee, and company and all the crap they said and Hillary's ties to evangelicism. Gobama.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse


OBAMA HAS ALREADY WON !

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DELEGATE CALCULATOR:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/29/delegate.counter/index.html


I know that Hillary's demographics favor the un-educated...but try doing the math (you can do it!)....even if Clinton wins EVERY primary by 70% (which isn't going to happen)..she would still be behind Obama.

OBAMA HAS ALREADY WON !

get used to it,

or just keep throwing tantrums ..it won't change a thing.

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Like it or not: Obama is the Democratic nominee

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Blessed are the peacemakers. Peacemaker was a Huron Indian and he's voting for Obama.

Posted by: Comittee for Appropriate Use of native American Mythology | May 1, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

This nomination does not come down to what happens in Indiana and North Carolina.

The nominee is picked after all the States have voted.

It is not picked by who won the largest States.

Nor is it picked by who won the prettiest States.

That is not how the Democratic nominee is chosen and Dan Balz is fully aware of this fact.

The Democratic nominee is chosen by taking the total # of pledged delegates earned through the primaries/caucuses and adding them to votes of the super delegates.

The job of the super delegates is simply to affirm the will of the voters. They have never done anything different and they never will.

Since it is virtually impossible for Clinton to win (she will likely lose by more than 100) the race for pledged delegates, the task for the super delegates is clear cut.

Just as a football game is not decided by how hard a team, that loses a game by 10 points, fought back at the end of the game when the other team was in prevent defense, the Democratic nomination is not decided on the basis of who was able to make up some ground at the end by resorting to extremely negative campaign tactics.

Although the media is attempting to create the impression that this race is close (see the meaningless polling released of late), this race is over. End of story.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone ever heard of a Clinton Republican? Obama has consistantly beaten Clinton among voters younger than baby boomers, independents, Republicans leaning Democratic, and voters with more education. Swing groups that have trended Republican in recent elections. Democrats can't win without them and Clinton hasen't been able to connect them. While over 60-85+ =16% of population and vote in greater numbers 18-45 = 41% of population are a far larger demographic and more important group.

Posted by: paulrandall | May 1, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

If we remember to the pernicious influence that Limbaugh's "Operation Chaos " is having on the elections and polls (3% to 5% of Clinton's vote in MS, OH, and TX was "dittoheads" making mischief) it becomes clear that all Clinton numbers are almost undoutably corrupted to FALSELY read higher than they really are. Even if this influence is not significant, however, those of who learned their 'ritmatic can tell you: TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE

Posted by: Phrank | May 1, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Newsflash! Hillary Clinton and Bill O'Reilly are the same person.

Posted by: Fox in the Hen House News | May 1, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

if Florida and Michigan are counted, HILLARY is in the lead with total popular vote by 121,615

but this nomination process, just like the general election is NOT determined by Popular vote.

sorry, but it's not.

it's determined by delegates...and even if you factor in the delegates from Mich & Fla, Obama is still the winner. Hillary ran a bad campaign, and at this point it's impossible for her to catch up.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

it is only pledge delegates that count...do the math...
who wins

Posted by: Joe Vancouver,bc | May 1, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

We've been hearing about the Bush bubble for some time now. It looks like there is a Hillary bubble as well. A weird alternative reality where any proposition, no matter how outlandish, that supports Hillary's position du jour is accepted as gospel (facts be dammed) and any dissension is grounds for vicious character assassination. I've witnessed seven years of an out of touch, deluded egomaniac at the helm and I hope I never have to live through that again. Hillary, just say no.

Posted by: Joebewildered | May 1, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA VOTED FOR THE WAR

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Don't Obama Supporters know anything about their candidate? Obama voted for it every time he had the chance to in the Senate

Alright! - I'm sick of these posts so I have to respond: Obama could not vote for or against the war as he was not in the Congress at that time. Not true for Hillary and McCain who were allowed to vote on it and both voted for it quite enthusiastically. Obama's claim to be anti-war is rooted in an interview with Charlie Rose done before the war in which he stated that he thought it was a foolish move and listed a bunch of reasons why(most of which have turned out to be true).
The other claim Obama has to his anti-war stance was a speech he gave at an anti-war rally before the war began. It was clear from his speech that he was against going into Iraq.
Obama came to Congress in January, 2005 - almost 2 years after the war began. All of his votes on "the war" have actually been on war funding. Obama, Clinton and McCain have all voted for continued funding because you don't ever abandon the fighting men and women when they are in the battlefield. The three of them also know that they would have been beaten up politcally for not funding our troops if/when they ran for President or even reelection to the senate.
Instead of continuing to post your stupid Obama/war posts, why don't you address these facts?

Posted by: NM Moderate | May 1, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Is Hillary McClinton on O'Reilly again?

Thanks for the $30 gas tax rebate McClinton.

Posted by: thinkresults | May 1, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

The hussein sycophants in the MSM are now desperately trying to save their favorite candidate after his massive Pennsylvania defeat, but they are running out of excuses.

The voters (aka bitter, religious, gun-toting commoners) in Pennsylvania, like those elsewhere, are not swayed by the meaningless Hope-Change, Change-Hope, Hope-able Change and Change-able Hope BS of "God Da'mn America" hussein. Experience and competence matter.

The majority of Democrats simply do not want the party to make the same mistake twice by nominating another Kerry-like shallow, arrogant, platitude-spouting, gas-bag - who is so mentally deficient from extensive drug use he even has to plagiarize his hollow platitudes!

Responsible Dems must focus on the fact that Tony Rezko's partner-in-crime cannot win the presidency by winning in small states with insignificant Electoral College votes, like Vermont, Iowa, Idaho, Wyoming and North Dakota. To win the presidency, it will take winning the Hillary states of California, Ohio, New York, Michigan, Texas, Pennsylvania and Florida.

Thanks to "uncle" jeremiah, the true nature of hussein has been revealed. For nearly twenty years hussein has been the disciple and avid follower and supporter of this racial bigot. hussein has publicly praised wright on numerous occasions. hussein gave wright's church $26,000 in 2007, plus many thousands more previously. wright's vile, bigoted harangues against America, in general, and white Americans, in particular, illustrate the true foundation of hussein and the "church" of which he is a devout member. The foundation of hussein is racial division and strife - not unity. If it were not for the thin veneer of whitewash slapped on him by his handlers, I would expect hussein to adopt wright's "God Da'mn America" as his theme song. hussein is clearly an outrageously unacceptable candidate for any elected office or position of responsibility in America.

One thing is certain: millions of Dems will leave the party if Tony Rezko's sleazy-deal partner is nominated.

Posted by: ALEX H. | May 1, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

The Clintons brought the art of political theater to the big stage of national politics. In '92 they broke into Bush 41's carefully constructed image and replaced it with the image that they, the Clintons, wanted the public to see. They similarly were able to crack into Obama's considerable charisma and remake a good chunk of his public persona as a Clintonesque parody. The political genius of Bill and Hillary aside, they have a much bigger problem coming up on May 20. On that date, no matter how you cut it, Barack Obama gets the majority of the pledged delegates. From that date on, each additional pledged delegate he receives is an additional super delegate she needs to even the score. Barack wins the nomination and the Democratic party wins on Nov. 4!!!

Posted by: Billhitt@bellsouth.net | May 1, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

I am Chelsea's father. Hillary paid me $50 bucks for a shot-glass of my jizz back in the 80s and recent DNA tests prove it.

Posted by: Ramon D. | May 1, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Hello,

A lot of people use my name in vain these day. Just for the record I would not vote for John McCain

Posted by: Jesus H. Christ | May 1, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

JakeD,

I think the short bus is here to take you and Almanac Kid home.

Posted by: swalker | May 1, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

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Who would Jesus vote for?

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BLESSED ARE THE PEACE MAKERS

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

"P.S. -- if Florida and Michigan are counted, HILLARY is in the lead with total popular vote by 121,615 : )"

And if I were Brad Pitt, I'd be sleeping with Angelina Jolie. How about if we didn't have super delegate system, Obama would be clearly the winner already? If we were to talk hypothetical, we can do this all day.

Posted by: foo | May 1, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Do Hillary and Sean Hannity get it on?

Posted by: Well Meaning and Kind American | May 1, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

"Who would Jesus vote for?"

John SIDNEY McCain.

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Do Hillary and Melissa Etheridge get it on?

Posted by: Well Meaning and Kind American | May 1, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Hey Everyone,

Check it out ALMANAC KID figured out how to use the "Caps Lock' on his key board.

ALMANAC, I hope you're not typing without your protective helmet.

Posted by: swalker | May 1, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA HAS ALREADY WON !

.

DELEGATE CALCULATOR:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/29/delegate.counter/index.html


Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Nobody know anything about Hillary's sex life... Isn't that important?

Posted by: Well Meaning and Kind American | May 1, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

I just can't see how so many other Dems don't see the same thing. If a guy lies about his major policy promises he will lie about anything.

Posted by: Chief | May 1, 2008 6:05 PM

1. Not a lie.

2. Hillary's lies and deceit reach to enormous heights.

3. Obama has not pandered or lied about gas taxes. Hillary has.

Hillary can be trusted in only one respect: She will remain an old-style politician and will do ANYTHING to win.

Obama could have tossed Wright out right away. What someone who wishes to win at all costs would have done. That's not him. He'd like to win the right way.

You're just so far off, it's sad.

Get yourself ready for ---

President Barack Obama and a new uplifting world.

No more Bush secret, lying White House. No more Clinton sleaze White House. A clean and clear White House that we can be proud of. Our flag standing for something good around the world for a change.

Obama will blow McCain away. He could even win Texas. Imagine. Just imagine.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Please...

Do the simple research:


See:

Balance Budget Act of 1996 - It crippled the ability for most of the poor of this country to reach up to attain the American Dream.


Telecommunications Act of 1996 - The Clintons enabled a media to consolidate to a point that Rupert Murdoch now owns the Wall Street Journal. And our cable news is but a joke that all resembles the FOX news.

Truthfully, Larry King spent the night, last night, playing clips of Hillary Clinton on the Bill O'Rielly Show. CNN, featuring Bill O'Rielly, yeah that clown
that sexually harrassed his producer. The same person that threatens to beat up his guests from time to time.


This is the America that Hillary will continue to build upon.


Haven't we had enough of this Neo-Corporate slime!?


Let's please give Obama a chance.

Posted by: Stop the Corp/Political criminals!!! | May 1, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Hillary is staying w/ a serial philanderer and impeached president, and apparently now a racist. How low can he drag the office of president.

Posted by: Lanny Davis ate JakeD | May 1, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

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NEOCONS FOR CLINTON:

William (Bill) Kristol; Editor of the Weekly Standard, key pusher for invading Iraq, talking about Hillary Clinton:

"I like to be on Hillary's side"

"She is a good candidate"
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"I am with her! I am with her!"
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352785,00.html

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

I mean really, folks if we don't know who she' doing, if she can't come clean about that, what can she come clean about" Who is Hillary doing?

Posted by: Well Meaning and Kind American | May 1, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

I'll vote McCain over Obama.
It would be my first vote ever for a republican
BUt better a placeholder than Oabma

Posted by: ddd. | May 1, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Several comments:
To who ever monitors this site, why would you let the word "dead" run a million times? To whoever sent it in, please don't miss another dose of your medication.
Obama is now a lock. He was just endorsed by the worst president in U.S. history and still trouble maker Jimmy MR. Peanut Carter. Hamas also endorsed Obama.

To the Wright defenders out there. Wright is deemed a patriot because he served in the military. Another noble veteran named Timothy Mcvay served in the military. Does anyone remember his claim to fame?

Posted by: ziggy1 | May 1, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Michael:

As I said, that was the most "extreme" (but clear) example I could think of. There are other possible ways. For instance, what if this homosexual / drug angle is true?

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

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The 44th President of the United States

President Barack Obama

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

McClinton

Posted by: thinkresults | May 1, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Obama has already won it all!

Plan ahead folks, the writing on the wall....

Posted by: Rob L. | May 1, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Who is Hilary's main squeeze right now? Come on, somebody has to know...!

Posted by: Well Meaning and Kind American | May 1, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA HAS ALREADY WON !

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DELEGATE CALCULATOR:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/29/delegate.counter/index.html


I know that Hillary's demographics favor the un-educated...but try doing the math (you can do it!)....even if Clinton wins EVERY primary by 70% (which isn't going to happen)..she would still be behind Obama.

OBAMA HAS ALREADY WON !

get used to it,

or just keep throwing tantrums ..it won't change a thing.

Obama is the Democratic nominee!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Do Hillary and Lockheed Martin and General Dynamics get it on?

Posted by: Well Meaning and Kind American | May 1, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Do Hillary and Jenna Bush et it on?

Posted by: Well Meaning and Kind American | May 1, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Come on, this is important people. How much do we really know abut Hillary?

Do Hillary and the Republican Party get it on?

Posted by: Well Meaning and Kind American | May 1, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Do Hillary and the NEOCONS get it on?

Posted by: Well Meaning and Kind American | May 1, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Do Hillary and the Fundamentalist Church of the Latter Day Saints get it on?

Posted by: Well Meaning and Kind American | May 1, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

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.........WHY DO THE NEOCONS SUPPORT CLINTON ?

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

LOL - I do not know about Hillary & Cindy, sorry.

Posted by: DCHill | May 1, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Who does Hillary get it on with? C'mon people add your opinions!


Posted by: Well Meaning and Kind American | May 1, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Hillary was never my first, second or third choice. I always thought she would be a good president. I just thought one Clinton and one Bush was enough. When Obama and Edwards attacked Hillary in the MSNBC debate I knew Obama was a liar and his promises were pure BS. I left Edwards that night because of his part in the attack. I sure wasn't going to the BS'er. She was what was left.
She has baggage, I acknowledge that. Her issues are well organized and well stated. She doesn't stammer and stutter. She states them clearly and consicely.

I didn't know Obama, but I did listened to him in the debates. I dismissed him immediately when he promised me hope and change. I also heard all that BS about being "above the fray" and "changing politics as usual in Washington". When he joined in attacking Hillary I knew my analysis was right on and he was truly a liar and pure BS'er.

I just can't see how so many other Dems don't see the same thing. If a guy lies about his major policy promises he will lie about anything.

Posted by: Chief | May 1, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse


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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Do Hillary and Miley Cyrus get it on?

Posted by: Well Meaning and Kind American | May 1, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

CHICKEN OBAMA WAS AFRAID TO DEBATE... CAN YOU BELIEVE IT--AFRAID TO DEBATE AND HE WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT AND PEOPLE ARE SUPPORTING HIM. HAVE WE ALL GONE CRAZY????

Posted by: tahirn | May 1, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Not getting this at all. Why are Obama supporters acting like they've won if Obama is the nominee? You do know there is a general election, right? And that the goal is to win that, right? No caucuses, plus FL and MI get to vote, right?

My republican friends (I have more than I care to admit) are absolutely salivating at the thought of Obama as the dem nominee. They cannot believe their good fortune to get such a vulnerable opponent. I can't believe we're going to screw this up again. If we can't win the election this time around, we never will. Bush has just hit the lowest popularity rating of all time. It's utterly depressing.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

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The 44th President of the United States

President Barack Obama

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Do Hillary and Janet Reno get it on?

Posted by: Well Meaning and Kind American | May 1, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Hillary just assumed that she would raise the most money and call in the most favors (actually, that's Bill doing the calling) and simply steamroll everyone else.

She'd start with a big lead in superdelegates (because of favors), and she did indeed. That lead has dwindled to 19.

She'd use same favors plus political machine in largest Democratic-voting states to sew up wins there, and mostly she did, although wins were supposed to be bigger.

Any other state primary/caucus would just be smothered by her huge financial advantage. But, after the first few contests, that didn't happen. Besides, she LOST Iowa. Oops!!

She's shown herself to be a poor manager of her own campaign, have no real consistent message, be a flip-flopper on many issues, be mean-spirited, be overly emotional, be a shameless panderer, and be hopelessly foolish on simple economic issues.

You may like the idea of a woman President; so do I. You're not thinking clearly if you like the idea of THIS woman President.

We're fortunate that Barack Obama came along. I don't think that John Edwards could have beaten her in this primary campaign.

We have a chance to have a better human being in the White House. If he doesn't make it, it will likely be his fault, which will mean that he doesn't deserve it after all. I, for one, believe that President Obama is in your future. Get used to it.

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Got it?

Posted by: Harry, Los Angeles, CA | May 1, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Since this is America, who our candidates get it on with is the public's business!

Do Condi and Hillary get it on?

Posted by: Well Meaning and Kind American | May 1, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

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OBAMA HAS ALREADY WON !

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DELEGATE CALCULATOR:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/29/delegate.counter/index.html


Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Obama is finished. He is unqualified to be president and he is unelectable. If we want to win the White House in the fall it is time to vote smart, vote Clinton.

Posted by: Tobias | May 1, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

The great divide in this country is not by race or even income, it's by those who think they are better than everyone else and think they should play by a different set of rules," he said. "In West Virginia and Arkansas, we know that when we see it."

That is Bill Clinton talking about Obama. But to me it seems he and his witch of a wife are the ones who want to use their own rules.

SHAME ON YOU TWO CLINTONS!!!!

Posted by: jeffp | May 1, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

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The 44th President of the United States

President Barack Obama

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Do Hillary Clinton and Cindy McCain get it on?

Posted by: Well Meaning and Kind American | May 1, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Rick in Miami, thanks for asking about what Obama has done. Here are some of the things I found when I was first looking at him. It isn't professionally developed, but here it is:

Education:

* 1983 Foreign Policy Degree from Columbia,
* 1991 Law Degree from Harvard, graduated magna cum laude from Harvard, and he served as the President of the Harvard Law Review, one of the most prestigious student positions in the world.


Community Organizer, 1985

He sought to improve living conditions in poor neighborhoods plagued with crime and high unemployment

* Moved the Chicago Housing Authority to remove asbestos in housing
* Established a job-training center
* Worked in the streets on voter registration to help elect President Clinton
* Registered 150,000 people to vote


Civil Rights Lawyer

Miner, Barnhill & Galland: litigated employment discrimination, housing discrimination, and voting rights cases.

* Protecting voters: seccessfully sued state of Illinois for failing to implement a federal voter-registration law.

* Successfully defended a whistleblower who lost her job, for a $5 million settlement


Constitutional Law professor/lecturer at the University of Chicago


Illinois State Senate 1996 - 2004

* Welfare legislation

* Created the Earned Income Tax Credit program that gave over $100 million in tax cuts for families throughout Illinois over 3 years.

* Expanded early childhood education

* Enlisted the support of law enforcement officials to draft legislation requiring the videotaping of interrogations and confessions in all capital cases.

* He passed a law to monitor racial profiling by requiring police to record the race of drivers they stopped. The law was at first very controversial, but due to Obama's skills as a negotiator and bipartisanships, he won the support of the police. During his 2004 general election campaign for U.S. Senate, he won the endorsement of the Illinois Fraternal Order of Police, whose president credited Obama for his active engagement with police organizations in enacting death penalty reforms.

* Pass the toughest campaign finance law in Illinois history. The legislation banned the personal use of campaign money by Illinois legislators and banned most gifts from lobbyists. Worked with U.S. Sen. Paul Simon (D-IL), 1988. Before the law was passed, one organization ranked Illinois worst among 50 states for its campaign finance regulations.

* Created a working, affordable health care plan in Illinois, that covers 70,000 kids and 84,000 adults, where all kids qualify for $40 per child. Obama sponsored and passed this legislation, working with Rod R. Blagojevich(IL Gov.) See All Kids http://www.allkids.com/ . It is a model for a workable, affordable national health care.


Honors:

* Outstanding Legislator Award
* Campaign for Better Health Care and Illinois Primary Health Care Association, 1998
* Best Freshman Legislator Award
* Independent Voters of Illinois, 1997
* Monarch Award for Outstanding Public Service, 1994
* "40 Under 40" Award, Crain's Chicago Business, 1993.
* Grammy Award in 2006 for Best Spoken Word Recording for the audio version of his book, Dreams from My Father.


US Senate, 2004 - present

He is a member of several Senate Committees:

* Committee on Foreign Relations, that plays a vital role in shaping US policy around the world.
* Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee that addresses, among other things, issues of immigration and our borders.
* Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions: oversees our nation's health care, schools, employment, and retirement programs
* Committee on Veterans' Affairs: focused on providing our brave veterans with the care and services they deserve.
* 2005-2006: Environment and Public Works Committee, which safeguards our environment and provides funding for our highways


The Numbers

Obama sponsored 152 bills and resolutions brought before the 109th Congress in 2005 and 2006, and cosponsored another 427.


Legislation Passed in US Senate

* Lugar-Obama Act to decrease nuclear and conventional weapons proliferation around the world.

* Coburn-Obama Transparency Act transparency in federal spending, found at httP://www.usaspending.gov

* Cosponsored the Healthy Kids Act of 2007 and the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) Reauthorization Act of 2007 to ensure that more American children have affordable health care coverage.

* Obama worked to pass a number of laws in Illinois and Washington to improve the health of women. His accomplishments include creating a task force on cervical cancer, providing greater access to breast and cervical cancer screenings, and helping improve prenatal and premature birth services.

* As a member of the U.S. Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs, Obama passed legislation to improve care and slash red tape for our wounded warriors recovering at places like Walter Reed. He passed laws to help homeless veterans and offered an innovative solution to prevent at-risk veterans from falling into homelessness. Obama passed legislation to stop a VA review of closed PTSD cases that could have led to a reduction in veterans' benefits. He passed an amendment to ensure that all service members returning from Iraq are properly screened for traumatic brain injuries

* Congo: Obama and Leahy successfully passed an amendment to provide $13 million in assistance to the DRC for military reform and election assistance. The bill also provided the the US policy is to oppose and fight against the rape and killings of women that is a particular horror there. Obama has recently sent a letter to Sec. Rice demanding a report of their efforts there.

* Darfur: He provided funding.

* Introduced Patriot Employer Act, August 2007, to reward companies for keeping jobs in the US

* As a member of the Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions committee, Obama helped pass legislation in the recent improvements to the Higher Education Act to increase the maximum Pell Grant award to $5,10.

* Obama passed legislation with Senator Jim Talent (R-MO) to give gas stations a tax credit for installing E85 ethanol refueling pumps.

* Obama sponsored an amendment that became law providing $40 million for commercialization of a combined flexible fuel vehicle/hybrid car within five years.

* Congressional ethics legislation, called the Gold Standard of ethics reform, passed by Obama and Feingold that ending subsidized corporate jet travel, mandating disclosure of lobbyists' bundling of contributions, and enacting strong new restrictions of lobbyist-sponsored trips. The Washington Post wrote in an editorial, "The final package is the strongest ethics legislation to emerge from Congress yet."

* Obama has introduced and helped pass bipartisan legislation to limit the abuse of no-bid federal contracts.


Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

At least Barack and Michelle get it on. You can tell. Healthy body, healthy mind, integrated spirit.

Posted by: Well Meaning and Kind American | May 1, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

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OBAMA HAS ALREADY WON !

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DELEGATE CALCULATOR:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/29/delegate.counter/index.html

even if Hillary wins every remaining primary by 70% (and that's not going to happen!) Obama is still ahead.

OBAMA HAS ALREADY WON !
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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Hillary voted for the war. Wow what a great idea! Let's invade some more countries. It's so progressive!

Posted by: Peace Makers for Truth | May 1, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

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OBAMA HAS ALREADY WON !

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DELEGATE CALCULATOR:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/29/delegate.counter/index.html

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Take it up with Real Clear Politics.

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 3:12 PM

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Don't need to. It doesn't count anyway. Delegates, my boy, delegates.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

"Posted by: Well Meaning and Kind American
Do you think Hillary and Bill really have sex?"


No, in fact they don't live together, they haven't in a long time. Bill lives somewhere around Dupont Circle area as he's often seen jogging in the area. Didn't you hear the ole saying back when Bill was in the White House and Hilary was running the country? They had an agreement - Bill could play with the ladies and so could Hilary. ;-)

Posted by: DCHill | May 1, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Hi Monica,

I went to Lewis and Clark College with you! In the Theater Department! Are you still working for Mossad?

Say listen... Maybe it's time for a higher profile, if you're not still on the payroll.

Meriweather.

Posted by: Meriweather Lewis | May 1, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Jake:
You make my point... If Obama being assassinated is typical of Hillary's paths to the nomination , then the odds are so long as to be non-existent. Only a true believer would cling to thm in the face of the reality of the mathematical politics

Posted by: Michael | May 1, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Who would Jesus vote for?

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"BLESSED ARE THE PEACE MAKERS"

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

NY)Rep. Louise Slaughter (NY)
Rep. Edolphus Towns (NY)Rep. Nydia Velazquez (NY)Rep. Anthony Weiner (NY)
Rep. Yvette D. Clarke (NY)DNC June O'Neill (NY)DNC Reginald LaFayette (NY)
DNC Randi Weingarten (NY)DNC Vivian Cook (NY)DNC Emily Giske (NY)
DNC Judith Hope (NY)DNC Maria Luna (NY)DNC Sylvia Tokasz (NY)
DNC Dennis Mehiel (NY)DNC Sheldon Silver (NY)DNC Robert Zimmerman (NY)
DNC Roberto Ramirez (NY)
Gov. Mike Easley (NC)DNC Susan Burgess (NC)Gov. Ted Strickland (OH)
Rep. Betty Sutton (OH)Rep. Tim Ryan (OH)Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones (OH)
DNC William Burga (OH)DNC Betty McElderry (OK)Gov. Ted Kulongoski (OR)
Rep. Darlene Hooley (OR)Gov. Ed Rendell (PA)Rep. John Murtha (PA)
Rep. Joe Sestak (PA)Rep. Allyson Schwartz (PA)Rep. Paul Kanjorski (PA)
DNC Hon. TJ Rooney (PA)DNC Rena Baumgartner (PA)DNC Marcel Groen (PA)
DNC Jean Milko (PA)DNC Evelyn Richardson (PA) DNC Gerald McEntee (PA)
DNC Ruth Rudy (PA)DNC Ian Murray (PA)DNC Sophie Masloff (PA)
DNC Ronald Donatucci (PA)DNC William George (PA)DNC Roberto Prats Palerm (PR)
DNC Kenneth McClintock (PR)DNC Francisco Domenech (PR)DNC Luisette Cabanas (PR)
Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (RI)Rep. Jim Langevin (RI)DNC Grace Diaz (RI)
DNC David Cicilline (RI)DNC William Lynch (RI)DNC Mark Weiner (RI)
Edna O'Neill Mattson (RI)Hon. Frank Montanaro (RI)DNC Don Fowler (SC)
DNC Marva Smalls (SC)Rep. John Tanner (TN)DNC Bill Owen (TN)
DNC Elisa Parker (TN)DNC Hon. Myron Lowery (TN)DNC Jimmie Farris (TN)
Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (TX)Rep. Henry Cuellar (TX)DNC Sue Lovell (TX)
Rep. Ruben Hinojosa (TX)Rep. Silvestre Reyes (TX)Rep. Gene Green (TX)
Rep. Solomon Ortiz (TX) Former Speaker Jim Wright (TX)DNC Norma Fisher Flores (TX)
DNC David Holmes (TX)DNC Bob Slagle (TX)DNC Hon. Karen Hale (UT)
DNC Terry McAuliffe (VA)DNC Lionel Spruill Sr. (VA)DNC Jennifer McClellan (VA)
DNC Mame Reiley (VA)DNC Susan Swecker (VA)Barbara Easterling (VA)
Del. Donna M Christensen (VI)DNC Kevin Rodriguez (VI)DNC Billi Gosh (VT)
Sen. Patty Murray (WA)Sen. Maria Cantwell (WA)Rep. Jay Inslee (WA)
Former Speaker Tom Foley (WA)DNC Ron Sims (WA)Rep. Norm Dicks (WA)
Rep. Tammy Baldwin (WI)DNC Tim Sullivan (WI)DNC Marie Prezioso (WV)
DNC Pat Maroney (WV)DNC Belinda Biafore (WV)


The above are the evil that is The Hillary Brigade...

Remember how Bill shipped jobs overseas and she lied about wanting healthcare for all of America?!

Nothing has changed about the Clintons and
their evil ways... Are you a racist?!

That is what Hillary has done to electoral system, turned it into a circus.

Tell your Rep. and Senators to vote Obama '08 for integrity for Meaningful Change.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

The follow Politburo Fascists have endorsed
Hillary Clinton's racist vision of America

Is this the America that you want for your
children?

Hillary and Bill promised Healthcare in
1992 and 1996 we trusted them to finish
the job. They screwed us all, and decided
to draw up the Balanced Budget Act of '96

That severely crippled the American middle
class and devestated the poor.

The following know the hand-0uts that the
Clintons have received from the Healthcareless Industry.

The following politicians no longer can
be trusted as public servants. They are
the new league of Fascism.
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Clinton
DNC Patti Higgins (AK)~DNC Joe Reed (AL)~DNC Randy Kelley (AL)
DNC Yvonne Kennedy (AL)~Gov. Togiola Tulafono (AS)~DNC Fagafaga Langkilde (AS)
DNC Deanna Fuimaono (AS)~DNC Nathaniel Savali (AS)~Rep. Ed Pastor (AZ)
DNC Joe Rios (AZ)~DNC Janice C. Brunson (AZ)~DNC Carolyn Warner (AZ)
Gov. Mike Beebe (AR)~Sen. Mark Pryor (AR)~Sen. Blanche Lincoln (AR)
Rep. Marion Berry (AR)~Rep. Mike Ross (AR)~Rep. Vic Snyder (AR)
DNC Don Beavers (AR)~DNC Martha Dixon (AR)~DNC Karla Bradley (AR)
DNC Bill Gwatney (AR)~Mark Wilcox (AR)#~Sen. Barbara Boxer (CA)
Sen. Diane Feinstein (CA)~Rep. Maxine Waters (CA)~Rep. Joe Baca (CA)
Rep. Doris Matsui (CA)~Rep. Mike Thompson (CA)~Rep. Lynn Woolsey (CA)
Rep. Dennis Cardoza (CA)~Rep. Jane Harman (CA)~Rep. Grace Napolitano (CA)
Rep. Laura Richardson (CA)~Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard (CA)~Rep. Brad Sherman (CA)
Rep. Hilda Solis (CA)~Rep. Ellen Tauscher (CA)~Rep. Diane Watson (CA)
Rep. Loretta Sanchez (CA)~Rep. Jackie Speier (CA)~DNC Alice Huffman (CA)
DNC Alicia Wang (CA)~DNC Rosalind Wyman (CA)~DNC Charles Manatt (CA)
DNC Kamil Hasan (CA)~DNC Mona Pasquil (CA)~DNC Mirian Saez (CA)
DNC Garry Shay (CA)~DNC Hon. Maria Echaveste (CA)~DNC Rachel Binah (CA)
DNC Christopher Stampolis (CA)~DNC Aleita Huguenin (CA)~Rep. Diane DeGette (CO)
DNC Manny Rodriguez (CO)DNC Maria Handley (CO)DNC Ramona Martinez (CO
DNC Ellen Camhi (CT)DNC Robert Bell (DA)*DNC Leo Perez Minaya (DA)*
Gov. Ruth Ann Minner (DE)DNC Rhett Ruggerio (DE)DNC Karen Valentine (DE)
DNC Mary Eva Candon (DC)DNC Yolanda Caraway (DC)DNC Hartina Flournoy (DC)
DNC Harold Ickes (DC)DNC Ben Johnson (DC)DNC Eric Kleinfeld (DC)
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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton should drop out of the race. She cannot catch up with Senator Obama in pledged delegates. If the super delegates give it to her, it will rip apart the Democratic Party. The pundits are obsessed with the so-called "Reagan Democrats." But no modern Democratic presidential candidate has ever won without at least 75% of the Black vote. Without that level support, Swing States like MI, FL, OH, AR, MO, VA, and PA move out of reach. And Blue States like NJ, DE, WI, MN, CT, and maybe even California, turn into "Purple States" (i.e. Swing States). The Clintons know this. The Party knows this. So do Republicans; this why they are so eager for Hillary to be the nominee. So they infiltrate our open primaries and vote for her - handing Hillary a win in Texas. They give her favorable coverage on Fox News. They run negative ads against Senator Obama. It's pretty obvious what's happening. The question is, will Demorats wake up and smell the coffee?

Posted by: Jon | May 1, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

The media keeps referring to Hillary's "string of victories."

What string?

After Obama won 11 contests in a row, on March 4 Clinton won Ohio and Rhode Island, Obama won Vermont, and they split Texas - Clinton won the primary, Obama won the caucuses - Obama won more delegates from Texas, 99-94.

On March 8 Obama won Wyoming. On March 11, Obama won Mississippi.

Then, on April 22, Clinton won Pennsylvania, breaking his two-state winning streak.

So, her "string of victories" is 1 in a row.

Since Feb. 5, Super Tuesday, Clinton's presumptive day of "coronation" as the nominee, Obama has won 14 states, she's won 3, and we'll call Texas a draw.

Obama is now only 283 votes away from going over the top for the nomination. 408 pledged delegates will be chosen in the next 9 primaries. Obama will likely win North Carolina, Oregon, Montana, South Dakota and Guam. Clinton will likely win West Virginia, Kentucky and Puerto Rico. Indiana is a toss-up and will likely split its 72 votes.

If the pledged delegates split down the middle, 204 each, Obama will be only 78 votes from the nomination with over 270 superdelegates still to declare.

If over 70% of the remaining superdelegates decide to overturn the will of the people, they will destroy the Democratic Party as we know it. Disillusioned young people and African-Americans will be gone for at least a generation.

And all this will be laid at the feet of Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: Malama Makena | May 1, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

A lot of people keep asking these days, "Who would Jesus vote for?"

Vote for my brother and help turn Hillary Clinton into a pillar of salt.

I'm Jesus Obama and I approved this message.


Posted by: Jesus Obama | May 1, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

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OBAMA HAS ALREADY WON !

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DELEGATE CALCULATOR:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/29/delegate.counter/index.html

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

It must be tough forthe brain addled starry eyed Barack "Jim Jones" Obama cult followers to find out so late in the game that their Messiah is a manufactured fraud.

Posted by: muskrat | May 1, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

I blew Hillary. Bill just took the heat cause he's that kind of guy.

Posted by: Monica | May 1, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

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OBAMA'S ALREADY WON !

Scream, throw a tantrum, blog all night,
But the facts are: that Obama has already won.

Don't believe me?
...go on the Delegate Calculator, and punch in the numbers

Let Hillary win by 70%, in EVERY remaining primary (even North Carolina....and that ain't going to happen..she's never won by 70%)

But do it anyway....let her win EVERY PRIMARY that remains in this race

(and there's no way she's going to win by 70%, and no way she's going to win North Carolina)

....but do it anyway.....just for fun...and what do you find out?

OBAMA IS STILL AHEAD!

Do it ! ....or just keep throwing a tantrum

OBAMA HAS ALREADY WON !

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DELEGATE CALCULATOR:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/29/delegate.counter/index.html

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Re: my previous comment. The correct count of states won on Super Tuesday Feb. 5 was Obama - 14, Clinton - 9.

Posted by: Malama Makena | May 1, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Hillary needs the Presidency at all costs to pardon her self and everyone involved in the trial in Clinton fraud case , and I bet Rev Wright made deal with them to bury Obama , to get the Nomination

BINGO!

Posted by: Black Bingo Players for Common Sense | May 1, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Rev. Wright is a wacko. But Rev Wright is not on the ballot and is only relevant in so far as his wacko views can be ascribed to Sen Obama. So the real question voters have to ask is:

1) Is Barack Obama a racist?
2) Does Barack Obama hate America?

I think at the end of the day it seems almost laughable to see Obama as a racist when he was rasied by a white mother and his whole life has been about bridging differences among different groups. As to the patriotism issue, there is nothing to suggest he doesn't love America and the opportunites he has been granted.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse


OBAMA DOESN'T HAVE A HEART FOR ANYONE TO EAT!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

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A Typical White Person

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FOR OBAMA!

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Was Harry S Truman a "peace maker" when he dropped two A-bombs?

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

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"Typical white people" who "cling to guns and religion" and will never forget that the went to a racist, anti-white, anti-semitic, anti-American "Black Liberation Theology Church" for 20 years aren't going to vote for him anymore.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

I am a typical white person white person who drinks Schmidt beer.
Hillary is a fraud.

Posted by: Typical White Person for Obama | May 1, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

CLICK The Video Link below ; The pandering Clintons first were pushing the Iraq Regime Change in the 1990s , and now they pander for the Voters that are against the war .

www.bercasio.com/movies/dems-wmd-before-iraq.wmv


Hillary needs the Presidency at all costs to pardon her self and everyone involved in the trial in Clinton fraud case , and I bet Rev Wright made deal with them to bury Obama , to get the Nomination , if this happens , then what does Peter F Paul have ? www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=57009

www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56868

And an anonymous blog set up to defend his church offers some compelling photographic evidence of this: A photograph of Wright and President Clinton, which it says was taken on Sept. 11, 1998 -- the date of a White House gathering for religious leaders.

www.truthabouttrinity.blogspot.com/2008/03/my-pastor-has-represented-us-well.html

Posted by: ajironworks | May 1, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

DO WHAT JESUS WOULD DO!

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JIMMIE CARTER ARE YOU LISTENING?

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

The Democratic Party's present dilemma is yet another quagmire brought on by the assumption that no candidate can win their nomination without support of the party's far Left wing. That may or may not be true. What is demonstrably true, however, is that they cannot win the Presidency with a candidate that is beholden to the extremist liberal faction. By the time the Primary season has ended, the winning Democratic candidate has pandered to the far Left so pervasively that he/she is unelectable in the general election.

Posted by: Bubba | May 1, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton murdered Vince Foster and ate his heart.

Posted by: Murderers for Jesus | May 1, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Keep reading: "I am not saying I want this to happen" ...

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

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"Typical white people" who "cling to guns and religion" who don't care "what the price of arugula is at whole foods" who do care that Obama doesn't have the judgement, experience, or ability to think on his feet under pressure to be President.
Have made up their minds. Look at the polls. Obama's tanking faster than WebVan did!!!

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Obama chairs the subcommittee on *European* Affairs, which does not have oversight on Afghanistan, obviously.

I was dismayed to be blatantly lied to by a presidential candidate on my own phone in my own house. These poll numbers are meaningless.

Want to hear part of the call I recorded? Check it out and decide for yourself: lowerdryad.wordpress.com
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David,

Obama admitted that this subcommittee does have oversight of Afghanistan and he has never convened it in a debate.


Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

President Bill Clinton and first lady Hilary Clinton invited Rev. Wright to the White house for marriage councelling after the Lewinsky scandal. But the media isn't covering that ...

Posted by: RMH | May 1, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

"if Obama was assassinated today"

oh, is that the new Hillary hope?

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Much like the namesake of her campaign style, Hillary Clinton is the Tonya Harding of this election. She has no chance of winning, but is going to take out the real candidate out of spite.

The fact that she is stooping to O'Reilly Factor interviews should be a huge wake-up call.

Go talk to Condi about 2012 Hilldog!

Posted by: Carl Spackler | May 1, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Newsflash! Reverend wright and Hillary Clinton are the same person!

Posted by: Less Entitled Politicians for More Less Entitled Politicians | May 1, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Rev Wright has a lot more to tell:

May 1, 2008

Open Letter to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright: The Ship is Sailing

Dear Rev. Wright:

I am posting this open letter to you, to appeal to you, please DO WHAT JESUS WOULD DO, Tell the truth about Barack Obama.

You and I both know that you did counsel Barack Obama in the fall of 2007 on how to best address my request to him to come clean about his 1999 crack cocaine use.

You and I both know, that even though I never once mentioned the sexual encounters between Barack Obama and myself to his campaign, he did acknowledge said sexual encounters to you and your former Choir Director Donald Young.

You and I both know that Barack Obama and Donald Young had an intimate relationship with each other.

You know that Barack Obama knows who murdered or had Donald Young murdered! And you know why Donald Young was murdered.

Rev. Wright, you claim you are running for Jesus not for votes. So I appeal to you now, DO WHAT JESUS WOULD DO, come forward, be honest, and tell the truth! If you honestly had nothing to do with the planning, assisting, and executing of Mr. Young's murder, then just come clean with what you know about Baracks involvement as his Pastor. DO WHAT JESUS WOULD DO, and give this man's family closure and a sense of peace again.

Rev. Wright please allow Barack Obama to be required to answer for his lies, betrayal, and selling of his soul for the sole purpose of winning an election. Come forward about Barack's confiding in you as to the truthfulness of my allegations against him.

I truly hope you will stop protecting this man; stop allowing this liar and his handlers to abuse, attack and slander those of us who speak the truth about him. Rev. Wright, you have the power to put all of this to rest once and for all by being honest and telling the American People, that Barack Obama admitted to you I am telling the truth about his drug use and sexual encounters with me in 1999.

DO WHAT JESUS WOULD DO!

Posted by: nowaynobama | May 1, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Michael:

That math is there too. Just as the most extreme example (and not saying even I want this to happen), if Obama was assassinated today, you don't think enough remaining delegates and super delegates could be found to switch to Clinton?

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

To poster who puts his faith in the "Delegate Calculator":


Thank the Lord for the superdelegate system.

The is not a numbers game; it's an electability game. Both Obama and Hillary are losers in that game.

The Third Way is the only way out.

This is not a math problem. It's a people problem. Only a people person at the top will win this game.

Edwards is the only people person left.

Toss to Edwards, and hope that Obama as VP doesn't sink the ticket (like Leiberman did in 2000)...


Posted by: scrivener | May 1, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Hillary is a lying scumbucket.

Posted by: Rational Analyst | May 1, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Newsflash! Jeremiah Wright and Barack Obama are the same person!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse


HERE'S THE LATEST:

Obama snores and farts.

This has to be the last straw. He's toast.

Posted by: Jake Leg | May 1, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Newsflash! Hillary Clinton and John McCain are the same person!

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

The Wright affair is a sideshow that is easy for bored reporters and inattentive voters to latch on to, instead of focusing on the real merits and drawbacks of the candidates, and the more complex issues.

Not only has Obama disavowed Wright's views, he has built his whole campaign on a radically different approach: addressing what ails America without aggravating the existing divisions in society. Thanks to his upbringhing, he has the rare ability to view the racial divide from both sides of the chasm, and figure out a way to bridge it.

As a Canadian, I am convinced this man has a unique potential to rehabilitate America's battered image in the international community, and maybe even make the whole world a safer place.

Posted by: Matthew from Toronto | May 1, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

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The 44th President of the United States

President Barack Obama

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Let me note that I was one of the people polled for this Garin-Hart-yang poll. I recorded a piece of it. The questions were set up in such a way that they were unanswerable, and contained patent lies, like the idea that Obama chairs the subcommittee on the Foreign Affairs that deals with Afghanistan, but never called a meeting.

Obama chairs the subcommittee on *European* Affairs, which does not have oversight on Afghanistan, obviously.

I was dismayed to be blatantly lied to by a presidential candidate on my own phone in my own house. These poll numbers are meaningless.

Want to hear part of the call I recorded? Check it out and decide for yourself: lowerdryad.wordpress.com


Posted by: David in NC | May 1, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Pamphleteer: no need; Irish Catholics are already man-and-boy for Obama. The tribal leaders have spoken. As for other Catholics, I really can't say.

Posted by: Dave | May 1, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Do you think Hillary and Bill really have sex? "Woke up it was a Chelsea morning..."

Where's Monica?

Posted by: Well Meaning and Kind American | May 1, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

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OBAMA'S ALREADY WON !

Scream, throw a tantrum, blog all night,
But the facts are: that Obama has already won.

Don't believe me?
...go on the Delegate Calculator, and punch in the numbers

Let Hillary win by 70%, in EVERY remaining primary (even North Carolina....and that ain't going to happen..she's never won by 70%)

But do it anyway....let her win EVERY PRIMARY that remains in this race

(and there's no way she's going to win by 70%, and no way she's going to win North Carolina)

....but do it anyway.....just for fun...and what do you find out?

OBAMA IS STILL AHEAD!

Do it ! ....or just keep throwing a tantrum

OBAMA HAS ALREADY WON !

.

DELEGATE CALCULATOR:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/29/delegate.counter/index.html

.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

JakeD
Like I said, there is possible for the heart and possible mathematically. To a true believer anything is possible. I admire your belief in the impossible. I couldn't do it... It would be a waste of time for me. But if believing in the impossible works for you... that's cool.

Posted by: Michael | May 1, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

I think this is so great though how we are debating, debating = change and thought. Which will make America great again as always. You think in Europe we could elect a African decent person? Only in this amazing wonderful country these things are possible and this is what is great about the USA.

Posted by: CJ | May 1, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Michigan&FloridaMatter!

Good luck with that (and the Credentials Committee too ; )

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Hillary's "Body Man" is John McCain

Posted by: Fans of Cuckholded Wives | May 1, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

The year: 1863. The battle: Gettysburg. Private John Mc Cain sits under a hickory tree munching on his hardtack when he recieves his marching orders from his company commander: "We march toward the Union lines tomorrow at dawn." Private Mc Cain leaned back against that old tree and made this promise to himself, "If I live to see another day past tomorrow, I'm going to run for president one day." History and time march on.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Don't worry, at least in Michigan we'll probably see a huge turnover of the representatives of our state. In conjunction with the primary debacle, the increase in the state income tax, and Kwamegate, I highly doubt many incumbent democrats will remain in office in the fall. (except for Carl Levin - we love him and wish he would run for President!!!).

Posted by: Michigan&FloridaMatter! | May 1, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Obama's "body man": his dual citizenship and security clearance issues

www.webofdeception.com

Posted by: Robert Lewis | May 1, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

I want Hillary so f***ing bad it hurts.

Posted by: Apologist for Ruthless Self Aggrandisement | May 1, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Jake D looks like Clinton campaigner. Can he be filtered OUT?

PLEASE...

Posted by: Independent | May 1, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

WHERE ARE THE KENNEDYS?? Reiterating their public support of Obama would be REAL helpful right about now. Why isn't there a rally in South Bend this weekend, featuring the Kennedys, to woo the Catholic vote??

Posted by: pamphleteer | May 1, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Jason wrote:

"He (Obama)said Wright, who officiated his wedding and baptized his children, seemed "not the person I met 20 years ago."

What a missleading thing to say!! Of course he's not the same person today as he was 20 years ago. Who is!?? But don't lie Obama and say you don't know what the man stands for after being part of that church for 20 years! Unless that is you just used that church as a prop which would make you a liar. Or you just went to church to sleep. Can a person ask you the same question that can be asked of Bush, "Are you really a Christian?"

I won't bother with the rest, I've already posted my piece. However, I would like to touch on the last question. As a Christian, I am amazed. I am curious. Are you a Christian? If so, because of that question, I am curious if YOU indeed really understand what it means to be a Christian? I don't believe we have any right to question any person's faith as though we are more righteous than they. I won't explain further. If you are, we must read different bibles. The Christ of my God would not have that type of behavior. If you are not a Christian...I will say no further comment, but would lead me to further questions myself, but I will say none further. That said, God bless.

'08

Posted by: Obama2008 | May 1, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Michael:

NOTHING is impossible for those who love God and are called to His Purpose.

Gator:

Ouch! That hurt ; )

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Obama's is smooth candidate and seems charismatic but would be a more basically flawed functioning president-a Carter. Mr. Obama is powerless to moderate the controversial views of his former(?)friend/ champagne & spiritual adviser. Obama & company state he can't do anything to stop Wright so he has separated from him. This very be-lated move undercuts illustrates his limitations to bring people together and his idea he is a new style politician- his bailiwick.

Obama's speaking skills are exciting for folks receptive to his ideas but not to those who are not swayed by this style. His ability to influence even long term friends close to him, make his success as a president seems extremely doubtful. We need a strong experienced leader right now to straighten out the mess bush has left the US in...ASAP.

Hillary is that candidate for me.

Posted by: robin | May 1, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Voting for Hillary is like voting for the Chinese troops in Tibet.

Posted by: Split Ticket | May 1, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Just a dip

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Posted by: getreal | May 1, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Hey everyone, they just found Hillary hanging by the neck from a beam in the shed of her mom's house in Florida; she kicked the little red tricycle out from under herself.

Posted by: Dave | May 1, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

WHY DO ATHEISTS, RADICALS, POT HEADS, LOSERS, HOMOSEXUALS, TERRORISTS, AND PINKOS SUPPORT OBAMA?
Posted by: joe big shot

Why is it that lowest forms of humanity who can barely string together (2) contiguous thoughts, and only just learned to walk upright support Clinton?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

The media need to report on real issues, not trumped-up ones. Obama's about as clean as a politician can get, so the press have set up a straw man, and Obama's being attacked because his minister says things that are "outside the mainstream." So what? Rev. Wright, over 20 years, has also done a huge amount of good in Chicago; and he's preached love and forbearance and all the good things. It is he who's responsible for his words and actions, not Obama. We're not blaming Hillary for Bill's tryst with Monica, are we? And nobody in this election (yet) has suggested she should have left Bill because of his immorality and lying. But there's a telling parallel there. Obama, in March 2007, edged Rev. Wright out of a role in his campaign. The press allowed "the Wright story" to peter out, but evidently they were keeping it in the back room, ready to be trotted out if Obama's candidacy went anywhere. What will be trotted out to trash Hillary, if she becomes ascendant? And we're still waiting for McCain to get his thrashing at the hands of the media for his association with the far more odious Rev. Hagy....but oops! I forgot! Hagy may be nuts, but he's white, and so's McCain! My bad!

Posted by: Alice C. | May 1, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Hillary is SO butch!

Posted by: Slanderers of Lesbos | May 1, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

"Dan Balz's Take" was likely digested from these lovely Sid Blumenthal emails:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-dreier/sidney-blumenthal-uses-fo_b_99695.html

Posted by: Disgusted | May 1, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Why should Obama answer for what his pastor said? Simply because we don't really know much about Obama and who he is as a person. So, the easiest way to know more about him is to understand the type of people who advise him. If Wright has been Obama's spirtual advisor and Pastor for 20 years, one would have to imagine that some of his radical thinkings have rubbed off on Obama. So yes, Obama should have to answer about his relationship with Wright because we are electing a President and not a Pastor or his apprentice. When Bush won his first election in 2004 the biggest issue on voters minds were "values." If this decision making topic is on top of (or even in the back of) voters minds, Obama's relationship with Wright could very well seal the deal and let's all say welcome to President McCain!

Posted by: Sarah | May 1, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Jake D, not over till the fat lady sings???

Hillary can't sing...it will never be over?

Posted by: Gator | May 1, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton is NOT a right wing ideologue!!!!

Posted by: swift Boat Veterans for Truth | May 1, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

JakeD said:Just as Joe Andrew switched from her camp, if enough super delegates switched from his camp, she would win. It's not over until the fat lady sing

Yo9u miss my point Jake... They aren't the trend has been away from Hillary since Super Tuesday and shows no sign of reversing... You said "If" But there is no reason to think that it would happen... Hillary has been trying a "kitchen sink" full of stuff to make it happen and it hasn't made a dent in the trend to Obama so there is little reason to think doing more of it will have a different result...

Also time is against her. The later the trend is reverse, the more dramatically it has to change. It is already well past the point that those who watch the delegate numbers say it is impossible.

I admire your faith in the impossible. It is said to strengthen the soul. Good luck with that.

Posted by: Michael | May 1, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Clinton/Cheney '08!

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Hillary is not self interested Republican stooge!

Posted by: apologist for Ruthless Self Aggrandisement | May 1, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

The same polling had Clinton ahead by about 30 points over her rivals when the primary season began. It is a little early to attach any significance to the polls. Senator Clinton should know; her husband ran a distant third in the beginning of his first presidential run and she is begging for time despite her initial front runner status.

McCain is not under intense scrutiny because all the focus is on the Dem. primary. Once the presidential campaign begins, McCain is going to get punch left and right by the DNC and Dem. nominee who I believe will be Obama. The Dems will win the White House with Obama and it is a risky thing with Clinton. Billary has too much dirt and at least half of the population has an extreme dislike for Senator Clinton - it is a hard place to start the presidential campaign.

Posted by: democrat | May 1, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps on May 31, the DNC Rules Committee will resolve the Florida and Michigan situations by giving those states 60% of their delegates - if that happens, Hillary can count a net gain of 50 - 70 delegates and the race will have more clarity.

Posted by: Words of Wisdom | May 1, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

To "Michigan&FloridaMatter!" - Ask you state legislatures why they moved their states primaries up. They were told (and agreed) that they were violating the rules and the primary votes wouldn't count. One more thing, what's up with Hillary supporters saying they'll vote for McCain if she's not the nominee? Because if you're for Hillary, McCain's the next best thing? That's like driving your car into a tree because you don't like the song on the radio. Hey, I'm for Obama, but, if he's not the nominee, I WILL vote for Clinton, although my tongue will be full of holes when I leave the polling place!

Posted by: beatleman7 | May 1, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

"not" voting for the war...when u are not even ELIGIBLE to vote on the war seems a weak qualification for the presidency.

so, lets focus on his qualifications...should not take that long.

all the while, the shady truths keep emerging.

LOOK FOR BLACKWELL TO BE THE NEXT BOMBSHELL.

Obama sure knows how to pick his "friends"

Posted by: getreal | May 1, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Then again, perhaps Obama will be good for the country. Perhaps after having their stupid collective noses ground into the dirt with taxes, inflation and high unemployment Americans will discover slef reliance again and not all aspire to be wards of the State. Another dose of the Jimmy Carter years seems to be on the way.

As for morals in the White House? Yes, I prefer a president who does not receive oral sex from interns while committing adultery on my dime.

I want a Christian president who has morals in his bones, not just in the sound bytes.

The trouble is, more and more, America is composed of population segments who cannot live peacefully under the same set of laws.

IMO

Posted by: Tim Singleton | May 1, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Bama's problem is he couldn't hide his true stripes long enough. If people had had a look at who he really was sooner, he would have already been an also ran. It's good that he has unseated the queen though. Basically, they are both radical socialists anyway.

Posted by: free coffee enemas here | May 1, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Hillary's repulsive behavior continues. Have you read the article about her campaign's use of extreme right wing foes to send b.s. email about Obama? Just disgusting.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-dreier/sidney-blumenthal-uses-fo_b_99695.html

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Smartguy:

I suggest counting "caucus" States by the total number of actual votes (it's not our fault they refuse to conduct primaries where more people would be able to vote).

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA = DIVISION

Posted by: Almanac Kid, if you have nothing constructive to add to this board or discussion, I would implore you to STFU!
Your IQ is showing, reflected in the mount of digits on your right hand.

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

1. I like both Hillary and Obama, I think they are fine people and would make good presidents;
2. How many tipping points and turned corners and all or nothings and make or breaks have the press hoisted on us?
3. I think Dan Balz, correction, I used to think Dan Balz was one of the more reasonable journalist in the mainstream media. How many tipping points or make or breaks has he written about. Is every day and every event and every article about the latest poll and the latest gaff and the latest fall behind and the latest catch up.
4. Where in the hell is anyone writing anything worth reading.

Posted by: joeparadis | May 1, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Why should Obama answer for what his pastor said? Is it because it is on Video and the american public cannot handle such jarring stuff?
It is entirely believable that Obama went to church. Found some thinsg objectionable but stayed with the church for the other good things it was doing...
Why the heck is such a hard thing for so many Americans to understand?
Are you guys eating too much tainted beef maybe?

After the Bush debacle, if they actually elect Mccain or Clinton then god help this place.

Posted by: elephant | May 1, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Why are we fighting a war in Iraq?

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Everybody know Bill Clinton's penis hangs to the right. So does Hillary's.

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

while the minister is stealing the spotlight now...here is the next bombshell. obama is done. good point gina.

here is the la times story:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/washingtondc/la-na-killerspin27apr27,1,2764345.story?page=2

here is related commentary on the "fall of obama"

http://www.pr-inside.com/america-1-political-blog-on-the-r566290.htm

Posted by: getreal | May 1, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

He (Obama )said Wright, who officiated his wedding and baptized his children, seemed "not the person I met 20 years ago."

What a missleading thing to say!! Of course he's not the same person today as he was 20 years ago. Who is!?? But don't lie Obama and say you don't know what the man stands for after being part of that church for 20 years! Unless that is you just used that church as a prop which would make you a liar. Or you just went to church to sleep. Can a person ask you the same question that can be asked of Bush, "Are you really a Christian?"

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Bill voted for the war while getting a blow job.

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

obama is like a bowl of jelly, he wiggles, he wabbles he shimmies so.

What exactly does he believe? Rev Wright says he Obama will say anything but will change up once elected.

I don't think so. He is unelectable.

Every superdelegate voted for Mcgovern, dukakis and kerry. They were not elected either

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

OK, to the Faux News disciple that keeps writing "OBAMA VOTED FOR THE WAR" - what are you smoking dude?

Posted by: seethroughtheclintonscrap | May 1, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Dan, you are an idiot. Obama has the thing in the bag.

It is amazing that you are able to make a living writing the nonsense you do.

Posted by: Brendan | May 1, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

It's a dip, you dips.

Posted by: Button Pushers for Multiple Messages | May 1, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Durant Imboden's posting is absolutely right.

Posted by: FRANK RIVAS | May 1, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Michael:

Just as Joe Andrew switched from her camp, if enough super delegates switched from his camp, she would win. It's not over until the fat lady sings.

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

To even cite the popular vote as a viable metric in this race is totally discrediting to any prior or subsequent arguments. Despite the debacles that are Florida and Michigan (neither of which should count in terms of voting totals), many of the caucus states don't count popular vote. For those of you who argue for counting popular votes in Fla and MI, how to you recommend counting caucus states?
Didn't think so.

Oh, and by the way, the primary is over. Obama has already won.

Have fun arguing for the next couple months.

Posted by: smartguy | May 1, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Bacause Hillary set up the Rev. Wright controversy for them?

Posted by: Mr. Fair Minded Person | May 1, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Rafael...YOU ARE REALLY FUNNY! TWISTED...BUT FUNNEEE!

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

MORE THAN 4,000 U.S. SOLDIERS DEAD, BECAUSE OF HILLARY'S VOTE


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Idiot! Like her voting no would have stopped the war. SHUT UP! TARD! Your freakshow wasn't even in the Senate. He's just a coward that avoids votes and uses other people's against them. A piece of crap just like you!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Yes, us voters of Michigan and Florida will "get over it" when November comes around and we will gladly vote for McCain. I forget, the U.S. isn't a true democracy anyways. How can we even tell other countries that democracy is so great when we disenfranchise our own voters? Its not the voters who changed the rules and the politicians who did will be repaid when they are up for reelection. Why punish the voters? That's right, this isn't a real democracy anyways... not when Texas votes twice, people get to vote 2 or 3 times in Caucuses.... right, sorry my bad, I guess us voters in Michigan and Florida will just "get over" being disenfranchised...I wonder if we can join Canada, eh?

Posted by: Michigan&FloridaMatter! | May 1, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

I was in Frankfurt in '98 watching a parade when the US float went by with a huge caricture of Bill Clinton coping a feel from the Statue of Liberty. The crowd went wild with laughter. This is the dignity you wish to restore to the oval office (where Monica received her harmonica lessons)?? Don't forget Hillary's famous speech about "turtles on fenceposts" or Tuzla snipers or Bill's "I did not have sexual relations" or even "I smoked but I didn't inhale". Where were you guys when this was happening? I assume it has "blown" over just like this non issue of the Reverand will. Obama by comparison is too good to be even running against this company.

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Hillary is a fraud.

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Good point by brian: [Obama gets hurt badly.Clinton wins the Democratic nomination.Embittered Blacks and other Obama supporters stay at home in November. McCain wins.]

On the other hand, If Clinton looses, her supporters may stay away and McCain still wins.

What's worse is the Dem voters, whose candidate did not make it (either one), instead of staying home, may even vote for McCain, just so as not to allow the other one to win.

Either way, seems like a no-win situation for Dems.

Posted by: Onlooker | May 1, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure Bill Clinton's not the only guy or gal to have oral sex in the White House. Answer me this people, Why are Americans so stupid and hung up on sex?

Posted by: Robert | May 1, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Still off a couple "+dead" -- count 'em up again.

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Rick...your from Miami, FL...sorry but you don't actually count right now...Maybe if your state rep would not have been a ninny to agree with a REPUBLICAN the old retired and dying folks could have had their savior (per James Carville Judas quote!) delivered to throne! You know Hillary is just as old as some of the folks thats why they all like her.

Posted by: Nicky | May 1, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

The nominee is decided by delegates and delegates alone. Hillary has already lost. She can't catch up and she is getting super-delegates at 1/2 the rate Obama is. She is even losing some like Joe Andrew who previously had endorsed her but are now switching to Obama and urging others to do the same.

She is holding her own in the media and even in some polls but so what? That is not how this will be decided

Posted by: Michael | May 1, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Jake Long a very good one! Here is another!
McCain is old? Well Obama is a left elitiest racist! Who goes to a church that acts like the devil!!! Obama you can't win!!! You wont win!

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

WHY DO FIDEL CASTRO, HUGO CHAVEZ, MAHMOUD AHMEDINEJAHD, KIM JUNG IL, HAMAS, BILL AYERS, TONY REZKO, ALI ABUNIMAH, RASHID KHALIDI, NADHMI AUCHI, AND BERNADINE DOHRN SUPPORT OBAMA?

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Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Dude, there's a long way to go and Obama's "veracity" is not as stake, neither is his "judgement." What is at stake is the "perception of his judgement" and that will likely change as everything does in America in 5 minutes or less.

Posted by: Robert | May 1, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

we are going to give the democratic nomination to bill clinton, a man that had oral sex in the white house and got bush elected!

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Polls don't matter. Media narrative doesn't matter. It's over, media idiots.

Obama has wrapped up the nomination since February. The Media pretends there's any chance that the DNC would steal the nomination from the FIRST BLACK NOMINEE IN HISTORY.

Washington Post has become a really trashy rightwing mouthpiece of late. What a shame. Bashing Obama day after day meanwhile giving McCain a pass on his lies and flipflopping.

Posted by: James | May 1, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Well, while I admit the republic died in 1913 and we have this abomination called elections in the US today, there was a reason that the electoral college was set up by the Founding Fathers and why Benjamin Franklin, when asked what kind of government had they set up responded, "A republic, if you can keep it."
Nothing is more silly than a self-righteous American, ignorant of their own history, or economics or even the simple idea of live within your means holding forth on all their 'RIGHTS' about having a say in things. Left or right, we are a silly, uneducated, nearly ungovernable people no matter what supposed letters of education we may hold.

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Kathy Corey:

But what about all the African-Americans, Independents, and youth who will revolt if she gets the nomination?

Sarah:

Thanks.

bruce:

Not according to the estimate at Rea Clear Politics.

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Rick...Senator Obama has "brought the people together!" (LOL)

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

OK, we all get it. Reverend Wright is Reverend Wrong. Please remove this lunatic from the news spotlight and get on with the real issues that need to be addressed in this campaign. Why aren't you guys writing about John McCain's embracing the endorsement from Anti-Catholic, Anti-Gay, Anti-Muslim televangelist John Hagee? If the media's goal is simply to stir the political pot instead of providing us with substantive information, you could just print the words "Monica Lewinsky!" in large type at the top of the Letters To The Editor page with nothing else. Sure, that would cause a few folks to spit out their coffee, but it still wouldn't help me figure out how I'm going to send my kid to college, or if I'll ever be able to afford health insurance.

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

PERSONAL TO DAN BALZ:

Dan: You've laid out the dilemma. Here's what's going to happen:

Hillary wins Indiana and comes close in North Carolina, even as she continues to alienate both the party's base and its "elite" (and no elite likes to be called "elitist," Hill).

Obama continues to stammer and stutter over the Rev. Weight issue, never effectively explaining the paradoxes and contradictions you outline in your piece. He can't erase the doubts about both his judgment and his veracity. By his handling of the matter, he has mortally wounded his candidacy.

Superdelegates send emissaries to meet with Obama and they lay down the law:

The only way to avoid a Hillary coup attempt and a disastrous convention floor fight is for Obama to step aside, and throw his delegates to John Edwards or Al Gore.

(Edwards would seem to make for a more feisty candidacy than Gore, who has chosen not to fight in a year that the party needed him to step up -- in order to avoid the very dilemma it finds itself in.)

Obama reluctantly accepts, with the condition that he gets the VP nod from the new "third way" candidate. The supers reluctantly acquiesce to Obama's demand, fearful that his presence on the ticket, even as Number Two, will give the GOP the swiftboat octane it needs to eke out a win in the general.

That, Dan, is the Dem's only way out of this mess. Hillary has done everything she can to confirm her reputation as a self-interested polarizer. The party will not reward her for her coup on the party, which has left the Dems divided and wounded.

Better to checkmate Hillary and lose some feminists and Gray Panthers -- what's left of Hillary's "core", Pennsylvania and Ohio notwithstanding -- than risk the chance that legions of Obama supporters might sit out the election, or bolt to McCain (or a third-party candidate such as Bloomberg or, for a small but potententially significant sliver, Ralph Nader).

For better or worse, Obama has earned a place on the ticket. But not at the top. That's gone. The challenge now is to knock Hillary off without causing too much carnage.

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

People whining about Florida and Michigan votes...get over it. All of the candidates signed agreements that these two states would not count. Now that Clinton is losing she wants them to count of course. Do you think Hillary gives a crap about ANY of those people in those states? This is classic Clinton bullsh#@$ always wanting to change and bend rules to accommodate themselves. Just like Bill lying about Monica, Hillary lying about NAFTA, Healthcare lobbying, Bosnia, Ireland, Macedonia, the list goes on. The Clintons are very manipulative and I will NEVER trust them. They have both displayed characteristics of self absorbed jackanapes. (LOL)

Posted by: nicky | May 1, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Jake,

Just fact-checking your math: When you add in the caucuses, Hillary is STILL behind by over 500,000 votes.

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Sen Obama supporters tell me this: "What has Sen Obama done, both in the Illinois Senate and the U.S. Senate?" And don't say "bring people together", as that isn't true. I view him as a Do-Nothing Senator; but will listen to any info you have, as I'd like to support him, but I may be old fashioned, as I like to know that my candidate has actually done something, vs talking about it.

Posted by: Rick in Miami | May 1, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

JakeD - McCain or Hilary, I'd be fine with either actually. McCain is one of the few republicans that I and many other citizens actually respect and like. Sure he's older than dirt and his wife served dinner at the last supper (according to a previous comment), but he's seen the horrors of war, he's lived through the good times and bad. But most importantly he's respected by many other senators and probably can get a lot more bipartisan work done than either Obama or Clinton combined. Obama is just too scarey and a blank canvas. I'd rather take someone who I know where they stand and what they'll do than another Bushie where you don't really know what personality is going to show up on what day.

Posted by: Sarah | May 1, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

I think Americans want to vote for a cartoon character. Hillary Clinton's self portrayal, fabricated, inaccurate, and hypocritical is the kind of flattened mythology that fits the stereotype.

And It's a lie. If Americans now believe the economy is the number one issue, why would they vote for a person who can't manage her checkbook, or her campaign's checkbook?

Listen folks, drop the anger, the superficiality and the delusions and put Obama in the office. Let's turn the page and get moving into a more natural and positive future.

Posted by: Robert | May 1, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

The reality is that Senator Clinton is the best candidate. She is the best candidate on the economy, on jobs, on health care, and on education. She won Ohio, Texas, PA and will do well in Indiana and North Carolina...because people know this. If they wanted the election to be over...it would be. The Superdelegates can want it to be over...but the voters don't. The Superdelegates may join hands in a suicide pact and jump over the cliff with Senator Obama as the nominee. If they do...there will still be another choice in November.

Posted by: Kathy Corey | May 1, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse


To nicky:

All your railing against Clinton is moot. Had Obama's baggage been known at the outset, he would be history now. The last few days polls prove this beyond any doubt.

Makes no difference anyway, McCain will be the next President.

Posted by: Billw | May 1, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

GINA:

Good points.

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

C'mon Indiana and N.C.!! Deliver a great margin!! =) '08!

Go Obama!!

Good job Dems!!

As for the article, tired of feeding comments based on the same ol' nonsense. Wright has been distanced from, direct further questions to him. Obama's answered plenty, and we've gotten to see him in all of his sincerity. There are remaining questions of all of those answers because people obviously like to dwell on the past even given the answers that has been given. It's time to move on. Obama is in for the good of this country, and he tells it like it is whether we like all of it, some of it, or none, but that's what we have. Time to dwell on the future. It's difficult to move forward, when we're constantly worried about yesterday, the day before, or "20 years." It's time to move on. We need to remember where we came from so we can form an idea of where we'd like to go as a country, focus on where we are today, and so we can get our plan together for the future. It is time and there's no greater time than now. It is time.

No more distractions of nonsense. It'll do this country more harm than it will good. We have a fine candidate. We shall not fall short of him due to nonsense.

Go Obama!! I've seen the most sincere and heartfelt candidate yet =) I believe you, and I believe in you. Keep forward, there's work to do and people to bring home!! Forward through the primaries you go!

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

A tipping point for the MSM in their efforts to attack and smear Obama at all costs?????

Keep dreaming.

WaPo = RNC newsletter drivel

Posted by: Jim | May 1, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

You hill-billies are crazy if you think Hillary is the tougher candidate. If that's the case, then why does every Republican hope she's the nominee? Because they want to make it tougher for themselves? Why do you think the Supreme Court split 6-3 on the ID law in Indiana? We might as well just congratulate McCain on his victory if the Dems nominate botox bessie.

Posted by: Dave | May 1, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Chris:

As I've stated (repeatedly) I will accept whatever decision the Credentials Committee votes on Florida and Michigan.

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Well with the MSM so DETERMINED to play the "guilt by association" game with ONLY Obama, what can you expect? Why are they even questioning his patriotism? He is the only American candidate who is right when he says "wearing a stupid pin means NOTHING". BTW, where is HRCs FLAG PIN? She wears suits and has b@lls, so where is her PIN? (She's probably sitting on it with her big huge fat @ss or it's really stuck inside her with all the other s*it!) The ONLY reason that the MSM has played this "association" game is because Obama is black. Why can't they play it FAIRLY? What about HAGEE for McCain who is by far an absolute LUNATIC and his followers are total NUT CASES! They scare the bejesus out of me. And what about miss queen bee and Doug Coe and the SECRETIVE Family or Fellowship where only the ELITE/WEALTHY of this country are allowed to partake in their ??religion?? - what's the deal. Either the MSM should question them all in the detail they have done to Obama, or they should just shut the F*&K up! The MSM is trying their damnest to SWAY this primary and tip it to HRC the PROVEN GREEDY LIAR! This is DISGUSTING and the MSM only put out the personal opinion, illusion, spin, hype, inneundo and propoganda. Boycott the MSM people!!!

Posted by: ObamasLady | May 1, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Bush didn't fool me

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Rev Wright has admitted that Trinity practices James Cone's Black Liberation Theology. That means Barack, Michele and their children were subjected to this for years:

Liberation theology as it has expressed itself in the African-American community seeks to find a way to make the gospel relevant to black people who must struggle daily under the burden of white oppression.

James Cone defines the theology thus:
"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."

Is this the First Family you want in the White House? Think, People, do not be fooled by your emotions.

Posted by: Obama Who? | May 1, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA = DIVISION, HAVE A SWEET DAY YOU LEFTIES YOU:) FLOWERS AND KISSES xxxx

Posted by: Almanac Kid | May 1, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Okay people let's think about this - during the Clinton years the economy was booming, gas prices were low, jobs were good and overall life was good. Under the Bush years our sons and daughters have lost their lives in an illegal war in Iraq (War on terror is different that the WMD war in Iraq). The economy is in the tank, the job market is non-existent, gas is at a ridiculous rate, our nations infrastructure is crumbling, the purchasing power of the dollar is the lowest since anyone can remember. So we have 2 options - a repeat of the Bush years with McCain or Obama in the White House, or a return to the good ole days with Clinton in the White House. Bush fooled us all with his charm much like Obama is doing.

Posted by: CarrieD | May 1, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Sarah:

The flip side of that argument, of course, is that if Hillary gets the nomination, 96% of African-Americans will vote for McCain. Stuck between a rock and a hard place, you are.

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Hey Jake D,

If if's and but's were candy and nuts, we would all have treats. However based on the rules all the candidates agreed to (including Hillary on tape), Florida and Michigan don't count.

Heck if I was 6-9 I would be in the NBA but as it stands I better go to work tomorrow.

Posted by: Chris | May 1, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

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William (Bill) Kristol; Editor of the Weekly Standard, key pusher for invading Iraq, talking about Hillary Clinton:

"I like to be on Hillary's side"

"She is a good candidate"

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton still has needs to win North Carolina also. Lets not forget that fact. She is so busy sucking up to scared white people (LOL) that she is forgetting all the black votes that got her husband a presidency and her senate seat. FUNNEE!

Posted by: nicky | May 1, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

ALMANAC KID = INCAPABLE OF COMPLEX THOUGHT

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Obama remains functionally at least tied with HRC despite the fact that he has been smeared with a tenuous and silly ad-hom attack for months now. I mean, seriously, you go to RealClearPolitics and even today the majority of articles are still about Wright. Yawn.

Yet Obama's just kept plodding along running a decent, smart, grassroots campaign.

If Wright has not demolished him (people, this is a loud, "angry" black man shown repeatedly saying "goddamn america" -that's the kind of thing that presumably makes most white racists sh*t their pants and lock up their children) absolutely nothing will. Bill Ayers? Yeah right. Bring it on.

What could be better testament to this guy's "electability" than weathering the sh*tstorm of the past two months?

I started this election supporting Clinton and nothing has made me regret or seriously re-consider my eventual choice that Obama is just what we need and can win.

ps. Gordon you're making me laugh out loud

Posted by: Selectability | May 1, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is old? Who knew? That's the best you liberals can do?

Hmmm... try this one: Obama is a corrupt anti-American bigot.

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Some people on here are really funny, I mean linching of the reverand to diminish obama is really funny. Let's all think who linched who?? I think that obama and his paster were friends and are still friends and that's fine. I'm sure over the last several weeks they both have had conversations together and made plans on how to make it look like obama was not responsible for his crazy uncle buy having the pastor go out and make speeches and make sure he (pastor) was over the top so obama would be able to throw him under the bus without looking like he(obama )was flip floping it's a very clever thing they both came up with it makes obama look strong and the pastor look like a crazy fox just what the news media needed to hear.Tell me it's not working for obama now!!It is political that all this time the pastor has said nothing but as soon as obama needed help his pastor and him thought up this media blitz.Now we will see if the pastor comes out agian in anger against obama and my bet is that he won't they both set it up and we will see what the vote will be. obama is a slimmy, sneeky man to get his pastor to do this for him. He will never get my vote.

Posted by: GINA | May 1, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

It's not so much that Obama wasn't on the ballot in Michigan, but more so he purposefully took his name off the ballot. When he realized the vote was going through instead of trying to get his name back on the ballot he could've cared less. I love hearing that my home state "doesn't count" yet voters in Guam and other U.S. territories get their voices heard. The more Obama spits in the faces of Michigan voters, the more likely that if it is a McCain/Obama showdown - Michigan WILL vote for McCain. We did vote for him in the 2000 republican contest even after Dubya had the nomination sealed up (granted we voted for Romney this time around). McCain will win in the fall against Obama because Clinton supporters will NOT support Obama and Obama supporters will forget about the election in the fall. What should have been a "slam dunk" democratic victory is starting to look like another 4 years of the GOP in the White House.

Posted by: Sarah | May 1, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

gOD DaNm aLL oF YoU!

Posted by: rEV | May 1, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

The more you know him the more you see Senator Obama is an empty suit. By November this will be much more than a dip. It breaks my heart to see our party nominate such a nothing.

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

just wait until the connection between obama and robert blackwell gets some attention. it will completely dismantle the obama campaign. this relationship yet again reveals obama to be nothing more than a typical politician...certainly not the second coming.

Posted by: gina | May 1, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Sorry to disapoint you I love farm animals

Posted by: Almanac Kid | May 1, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

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IT'S OK, YOU CAN COME OUT NOW, DON'T BE AFRAID, NOBODY WILL HURT YOU:)

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Posted by: Almanac Kid | May 1, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

BillW...Let's review how 'tough' Hillary Clinton really is and who she really stands up for.

Point #1: Over the last two decades and past two Presidencies, Hillary Clinton has effectively been a help to diminishing manufacturing jobs and bankrupting the country. NAFTA enabled major manufacturing corporations the option to close plants in America and ship jobs overseas for cheaper unregulated labor. Ohio, Pennsylvania, Indiana, Albany NY, NJ, Oregon, Kentucky and countless blue collar middle class workers in other states lost their jobs because Hillary Clinton supported, promoted and was captain of the cheerleading squad for NAFTA during her husband's run in the white house. She now says she did not support NAFTA behind closed doors but in public she told lies basically saying it was the salt of the earth.

Point #2: Fast forward to the Bush Administration and the proposal to go to war. Now we have Senator Clinton agreeing with George Bush, John McCain and that it is okay to go to war without even having all the facts. Yet again Hillary Clinton supports a policy that she now claims to have always been against. Senator Clinton admits that she agreed and signed off on a war that she hoped would not come to fruition.

Point #3: Exactly how 'tough' was it for Hillary Clinton to follow that same yellow-line as her colleagues or husband? On two of the toughest decisions that Hillary Clinton has had to face politically she has failed to be tough enough for the American people. That failure to actually be tough and go against the 'politics as usual' course in Washington has resulted in massive job loss and an economy that is now in ruins thanks to NAFTA and the Iraq War. American men and women are facing tough decisions every day and now the toughest decision they will have to face is are they willing to support Hillary Clinton even though her judgment and decisions within the last twenty years have not supported them. If they are willing to turn the blind eye and subjected themselves to more of Hillary Clinton's 'toughness' they just might wake up one morning to find that Iran has been Obliterated and Bill Clinton and Mark Penn are now Vice President and Treasury Secretary respectively.

Women especially are losing jobs at a much faster rate then men right now in corporate America. Professional working women like secretary's, receptionists, office managers, research analyst, customer service managers and human resources managers can basically thank Hillary Clinton for helping Bush go to war. These women are normally the first people chosen when the chopping block starts falling in these large corporations. Women get laid off a lot quicker then men and that is a fact. So about that 'glass ceiling' theory she wants to crash? Hillary has managed to elevate that ceiling up even higher for the average women who is not running for President but just wants a job to help support her family.

So...when Hillary Clinton wakes up at 3am screaming into the phone "Obliterate Iran, Iowa, and Mississippi!" Just remember you were warned...I would say John McCain but great grandpa McCain probably sleeps with an oxygen tank instead of his wife. 3am in the morning he is rolling over to check his dentures soaking in the glass by his bedside...; )

Posted by: nicky | May 1, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Gooch:

Good point -- A'Nold got to be Governor here in California, in part, based on the outrage over increased DMV fees -- the working people need all the help they can get right now!

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Almanac Kid = Teenager who never had sex, and who no is 53

Posted by: Huh | May 1, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Obama will say anything to win, and still he will lose.
His mask of lies has slipped, and will soon fall away.

Posted by: duncan | May 1, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

"I WOULD BOMB PAKISTAN!" barak obama, oct. 2007

SORRY, BUSH BEAT YOU TOO IT!

Posted by: Almanac Kid | May 1, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

It is hard to see next Tuesday as a tipping point unless Obama does much worse or at a lower probability much better than expectations. The larger question are the uncommitted superdelegates from states that have already voted. It is hard to see them swinging suddenly to Clinton in large enough numbers to make her the winner. She needs more of them than Obama and there is no certainty that she would be a winner in November either. There does not seem to be much possibiity that we will see a definitive tipping at least until the primaries are all over in June. Even then, it will probably be either a ratification of Obama's lead or a deferment to the formal process at the convention. If it should go to the convention, anything is possible.

Posted by: dnjake | May 1, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

lhummer:

I don't approve of Soviet-style voting, but Barack HUSSEIN Obama was the one who decided to take his name off the ballot -- if he had taken his name off the ballot in PA, could he have declared "victory" there instead -- also, if you keep reading, you will see that I do not think it is fair to count all of those "Uncommitted" votes for him. Let the Credentials Committee decide (at the Convention, of course ; )

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Never underestimate the power of Clinton's proposed cut in the Gas tax for the summer months, and to stick the costs of the cuts to the Oil Companies. Just a few years ago we saw a knucklehead Republican run an entire campaign for the Governor of Virginia on doing away with a licensing tax. He won big, on that one issue.

Obama has said that Indiana was the "Bellwether" state for both him and Clinton. Now that he is losing by 5 points there I wonder if he has changed his mind about that?

At least all the calls for Clinton to concede the race to Obama have stopped. Unfortunately the attacks against her from the Obama faithful have not.

Posted by: Gooch | May 1, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA = HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE

Posted by: Almanac Kid | May 1, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Is it the hate that drives most of you, or the envy? Deep, deep seeded - the kind that wakes you up at night.

Losers

Posted by: Huh | May 1, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA = WAR IN AMERICA!

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA = WAR IN AMERICA!

Posted by: Almanac Kid | May 1, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Still off by a couple "+dead" (at least you've corrected the spelling on Karl Rove's name ; )

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

"Uncommitted" was on the ballot in Michigan -- the Obama campaign was urging voters to do so and received 238,168 votes -- as compared to 328,309 for Senator Clinton.

Next canard?

So, JakeD, I take it that you favor the old style Soviet Union type of election where only one name is on the ballot. It's a real stretch to assert that "uncommitted" is the same as an actual name.

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA = ANARCHY AND LAWLESSNESS

Posted by: Almanac Kid | May 1, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

LA Boudreaux- Um - do you remember that it was just seven months ago that Hillary was the "inevitable " candidate- ahead by double digits in the national polls; awash in more money than any other candidate: far and away the most name recognition of any candidate plus she had a former President campaigning against her.

And then along comes an African american man, raised by a single mother with no advantages who now leads her in contests won: popular vote and delegate lead. With no president to help him. He's fighting Bill and Hillary and McCain and the Rev Wright. If Obama isn't Superman, I don't know who is.

By the way, the Ambassador to Iran just lodged a formal complaint to the UN today about Hillary's remarks that she would "Obliterate " Iran.

Do your homework on the history of this race before posting next time !

Posted by: vbalfour | May 1, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

You heard the latest? Hillary just dropped out. And in dropping out she fell outside her door unto the lower floor of her house straight into Bill's bedroom and bingo! Bill was busy getting a BLOW job!

Posted by: jack | May 1, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA = A SOCIETY DIVIDED

Posted by: Almanac Kid | May 1, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Hillary supported NAFTA, the war in Iraq, and now she wants to cut gas tax for a few months even after economist say it won't help most Americans.

Hillary might talk a good game but she makes the wrong decisions....I want a really, really smart person in the White House......so Obama is who I support. I hope Obama wins in Indy and in NC, then we can put this mess to rest and get on with what matters like the war in Iraq and our energy problems.....also I like Obama's deportment...and I think that it is important for bringing people together....which is what America needs right now....

My hopes and dreams of a united country are with Barack Obama.

Posted by: Daniel | May 1, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA = HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE

Posted by: Almanac Kid | May 1, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

People compare Obama to the devil even if he does believe in what Wright said He STILL is BETTER then GWBush for sending our kids to a endless war for no reason. Obama was the only one against this war? why? At least he didn't blindly follow sheep. Maybe if there are other wackos trying to send our kids to war, Obama will be to think twice about it. I think we need to give him a chance, Hillary, McCain = same old stuff.

I do wish we had more choices since we don't I'll try something different. Tired of the same BS.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse


OBAMA AND HIS CAKE

Obama figured that black democrats would support him out of racial loyalty, and a lot of whites would do the same in order to not be accused of being racial. This put him ahead, but has now backfired due to his close association to reverend Wright and Wright's character being exposed. Can't have your cake and eat it too. Regarding the media, they went with the "Obama phenomena" as it made sensational news, upped their viewer ratings, and made them money. This created bias toward Obama, got him free advertising of the best kind, and put him ahead. Now the hot news getting viewer attention is Wright, so the media has gone with him and has damaged Obama, likely beyond repair. Again you can't have your cake and eat it too. Had Obamas close relationship with shady characters and the hate-filled racist Wright been known at the outset, he would have been out of the race months ago.

Posted by: Billw | May 1, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

That's right DNC ignore Florida and we are sure to know who to ignore in November!!!

Posted by: Florida Bitter | May 1, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA = CHAOS AND DESPAIR

Posted by: Almanac Kid | May 1, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

I think it's interesting to see people so incensed by Rev. Wright's comments who take no issues with (McCain endorsers) Pat Robertson's or John Hagee's "America brought 9/11 on itself" comments or (Clinton spiritual advisor) Billy Graham's "if Jews only knew what I though of them" comments (spoken in Nixon's Oval Office no less). Personally, as a Catholic, I know that if parishioners were blamed for the sins of their clergy, I'd be in trouble...

Posted by: gabriel | May 1, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

UPDATED COUNTDOWN

Joe Andrew's ex DNC Head appointed by Bill Clinton supports OBAMA, THANK YOU JOE


AP Delegate Count

Victory 290 delegates

408 elected delegates remain
280 Supers uncommitted 230 current 60 to be selected
688 Total Delegates free

288.5 to 2025 Obama vs.
424.5 to 2025 Clinton

191 at stake Tuesday

Thank You Joe Edward

Go OBAMA

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

I can't decide who shows poorer judgment --Obama for supporting a bigoted nutjob for 20 years, or Obama's cult followers, who seem obtusely determined not to see their idol's feet of clay. Blind much?

Posted by: J Cline | May 1, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Rafael,
They learn from the masters!

Posted by: joseph pierre | May 1, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA = DECADENCE

Posted by: Almanac Kid | May 1, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

tino:

If the good Rev. Wright does not respond to Obama before Tuesday, with verifiable specifics (including names and dates), I will have to agree with you re: hoax.

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Thank God Hillary didn't drop out!

BTW she is ahead by four points in the new Gallup poll.

Posted by: duncan | May 1, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

MacCain is so old when he opens his mouth his teeth starts crying for dental relief!

Posted by: kofi | May 1, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA = SELF-CENTERED ELITISM

Posted by: Almanac Kid | May 1, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Would somebody please explain to the masses that we live in a Republic, NOT a Democracy!
We can all say "Wahoo! I vote for Joe Schmoo", but it's the delegates who decide who wins.
Get it straight folks. Our opinion doesn't count.

Posted by: diz | May 1, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Steve N and eg52556:

Don't worry about me -- I'm retired, so I have plenty of time to waste here -- as for counting the "Uncommitted" Michigan votes all for Obama, I don't see how that is possible, since there were undoubtedly SOME voters who were, in fact, uncommitted. That being said, I will accept whatever apportionment the Credentials Committee votes on Florida and Michigan at the convention ; )

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

This recent Obama caricature of condemning Wright is a hoax. Its all to reincarnate Obama in fooling everyone that he is so outraged now. Wright will take the hit to give Obama a chance to try to redeemn himself to make it look like he is turning his back on wright..funny Wright comes out before Indiana and NC, just when all seems bleak for Barry...its a hoax they are both slick...dont fall for it. michelle is looking so sad to get your sympathy...poor baby.....If the supers give it to Obama ..i will never vote Democratic again...thats all I can do..dont be an idiot to these two snake salesmen

Posted by: tino | May 1, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA = QUOTAS AND DOUBLE STANDARDS

Posted by: Almanac Kid | May 1, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Gordon! Your cracking me up! Great sense of humor!

Posted by: nicky | May 1, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA = ATHEISM

Posted by: Almanac Kid | May 1, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Obamas Cabinett:

Rev. Wright for VP
Henry Ayers for Homeland Security Director
Michell Obama for Race Adviser to Obama
George Soros As the Fed Chairman
Michael Moore for Secretary Of State
Ted Kennedy for Secratary of Justice

Posted by: Rafael | May 1, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA = HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE

Posted by: Almanac Kid | May 1, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

I've actually listened to Rev. Wright's talk at the NCP which was cerebral and refreshing. The questions from journalists were uninformed and visceral, a display of "lazy journalism." Shame on them for creating gossip for the 'little people.' Great people talk about great things, average people talk abut average things and 'small people' gossip!

This "lynching" of Rev. Wright to diminish Senator Obama is un-American and unacceptable. Rev. Wright's people fought, sacrificed and died for our cherished First Amendment freedoms and those who cannot respect our most patriotic people and their contributions for our freedoms don't deserve to live in Rev. Wright's country!

Unfortunately we allowed the "great unwashed" to immigrate to America and America is suffering the consequence of that colossal mistake!

Chagrined

Posted by: Chagrined | May 1, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA = DIVISION

Posted by: Almanac Kid | May 1, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse


Someone said:

"Barack Obama has displayed a remarkable temperament and restraint over the last 3-4 weeks."

Yep, he refused to debate, and only stood up to Wright when forced to. He is qualified for dog-catcher, at least small dogs.

Posted by: Billw | May 1, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

It is obviously,just a dip. Barack Obama has been the beneficiary of a steady stream of support by super delegates during and after the Wright controversy.Among these supporters is Former Democratic National Committee chairman and former Hillary Clinton supporter, Joe Andrew. Andrew , like Robert Reich and Bill Richardson,know the Clintons very well. Why is it that people who know them best and who have worked with them very close are endorsing Barack Obama ? Think about it.

We must remember that this is a low point in Obamas campaign and a high point in Clintons campaign. In spite of the Wright controversy and Barack Obamas poor choice of words regarding middle class Americans in Pennsylvania Obama is leading Clinton in many polls. He will win North Carolina easily and Indiana with a smaller
margin. This will start the flood of the remaining, uncommitted, super delegates to Obama.

Posted by: eSPO | May 1, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

I can see the idiotic Clinton supporters are at it again....silly bunch of bitter losers

Posted by: Here we go again | May 1, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Brian,

Same can be said about Clinton supporters, except that more of them will vote for McCain than will Obama supporters.
It's OK to wake up from your dream now, it's OK, nobody's going to hurt you...

Posted by: independent girl | May 1, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

They say Hillary has become such a liar that when somebody asked her "what is your name" she thought the person was unto something. So she said "my name is Monica Lewinsky" F you, said the guy,you are a fricking liar. Meanwhile, I heard John MacCain is so old his social security number cannot be recognized by computers. His number is just 9. Damnnnnn!

Posted by: kweku | May 1, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

iT'S NOT AN ISSUE OF THE REVERAND IT'S AND ISSUE OF JUDGEMENT FOR OBAMA, OR LACK OF JUDGEMENT.

Posted by: GINA | May 1, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Tyrone, what was Bill Clinton's legacy again, was his affair with a 21 year old employee (good judgement) or handing out 230 pardons on his last day for money.
Yes, other presidents have used this rule, but none have pardoned more than 20 and noenwithout consulting the justice department. Whay are so many of his inner circle coming out in support of Obama - because the behaviour of the Clintons is sickening.

Posted by: Mark | May 1, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Hillary said she wouldn't campaign and she wouldn't participate in Michigan and Florida.

THEN she redefined 'participate' to not include taking her name off the ballot. Now she wants 'her' votes.

Hillary should withdraw. Then she and Bill can write a dictionary of ALL the words they've redefined. That should take them well psat retirement age.

Posted by: Tom J | May 1, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse


John McCain is so old, he grew up in the ocean.

John McCain is so old, he was formed IN THE SUN.

John McCain is so old, he had sex with a caveman.

John McCain is so old, his midlife crisis was deciding whether to "come down from the trees"

John McCain is so old, he invented a pebble.

Posted by: Gordon | May 1, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama has displayed a remarkable temperament and restraint over the last 3-4 weeks. He has never lost his cool and he has been under massive scrutiny by main stream media and voters. Barack has never once displayed theatrics like screaming like a banshee for TV cameras calling people names or saying stuff like how he would obliterate another country. He is poised, dignified, graceful and always careful of the words that he says. I don't know about you guys but I want a President who I can respect and who is SMARTER THAN ME. I don't want another joke like Bush in office. I don't want McCain taking away my privileges as a woman. I don't want Clinton screaming 'obliterate those fools!' when the phone rings at 3am in the morning!

Posted by: nicky | May 1, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

So what's the message here? You expect American voters to base their choice on whether they prefer Wright (Obama), The Fellowship (Clinton), or Hagee/Parsley (McCain)?!

Last I looked, we were voting for President.

Posted by: Tom J | May 1, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Obama gets hurt badly.Clinton wins the Democratic nomination.Embittered Blacks and other Obama supporters stay at home in November. McCain wins.

Posted by: brian | May 1, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

It is merely an inflection point in Operation Chaos, giving weight to the Clinton argument that Obama is unelectable heading into August and Denver. It has the promise of being an entertaining venue come the dog days.

Posted by: Ed | May 1, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

"Is the tide turning?"

I Barack Obama fails to carry North Carolina decisively, the answer is clearly yes.


Posted by: Stephen Gianelli | May 1, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

The stuff he said from the pulpit in that church has me wondering if the people that heard those terrible words stopped...and looked around to see where the devil was standing....

Posted by: xcoalminer | May 1, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Technically, the Clinton couple expired months ago and nothing including Pastor Wright clucking like a chicken while endorsing Senator Clinton will change the contest.

Posted by: terrt | May 1, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Hey DNC, since you want to ignore Florida now, we'll be sure to ignore the Democratic party in November. You can COUNT on that!

Posted by: Florida Independent | May 1, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Obama is so bitter on Rev. Wright that he is claiming to his guns and religion!!!

NO to Obama 2008

Posted by: Rafael | May 1, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

How come the media seems to be so against Obama lately? I guess it's like their work before the Iraq war of "Shock and Awe" Lovely job Media. I have a feeling people are not as stupid as you think they are.

Posted by: aaron | May 1, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

CJ - Hear, hear! Excellent point.

Posted by: LanceZ | May 1, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Look at the voter trends in the graphs in IN, NC, and nationally. He's had five chances to take her out and couldn't. If he can't do it in his neighboring state AND by more than 15% in NC...he's on the ropes.
Momentum and timing is on her side since neither can get enough pledged delegates and Super Delegates can change any time
prior to convention. Never count Clinton out till it's over.

Posted by: La. Boudreaux | May 1, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

A Fair question to ask the Hillary Campaign is would they use the Pardon Executive Order to Get out of this Mess of Campaign Finance fraud with Peter F Paul , thats got Bill and Chelsea involved as well , I Mean the question is fair just how far one is willing to push to get Elected with the stakes so high wouldn't this be a question of Qualification for the Office of Presidency above all the other Conflicts of interest ??????????????

Hillary needs the Presidency at all costs to pardon her self and everyone involved in the trial in Clinton fraud case , and given the relationship the Clintons have had with the Rev Wright in the past , it is possible Rev Wright made deal with them to bury Obama , to get the Nomination , if this happens , then what does Peter F Paul have


U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission
www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/lr18828.htm
Litigation Release No. 18828 / August 11, 2004
Securities and Exchange Commission v. Peter F. Paul, Stephen M. Gordon, and Jeffrey L. Pittsburg, Case No. CV 04-6613 SVW (SSx) (C.D. Cal.)




Subject: Hillary needs the Presidency at all costs to pardon her self and everyone involved in the trial in Clinton fraud case , and I bet Rev Wright made deal with them to bury Obama , to get the Nomination , if this happens , then what does Peter F Paul have ?


Hillary needs the Presidency at all costs to pardon her self and everyone involved in the trial in Clinton fraud case , and I bet Rev Wright made deal with them to bury Obama , to get the Nomination , if this happens , then what does Peter F Paul have ? www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=57009

www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56868

While Hillary Clinton battles Barack Obama on the campaign trail, a judge in Los Angeles is quietly preparing to set a trial date in a $17 million fraud suit that aims to expose an alleged culture of widespread corruption by the Clintons and the Democratic Party.

At the conclusion of a hearing tomorrow morning before California Superior Court Judge Aurelio N. Munoz, lawyers for Hollywood mogul Peter F. Paul will begin seeking sworn testimony from all three Clintons - Bill, Hillary and Chelsea - along with top Democratic Party leaders and A-list celebrities, including Barbra Streisand, John Travolta, Brad Pitt and Cher.

Paul's team hopes for a trial in October. The Clintons' longtime lawyer David Kendall, who will attend the hearing, has declined comment on the suit.

The Clintons have tried to dismiss the case, but the California Supreme Court, in 2004, upheld a lower-court decision to deny the motion.

www.truthabouttrinity.blogspot.com/2008/03/my-pastor-has-represented-us-well.html


images.politico.com/global/clinton91198sked.jpg

The recent coverage of Rev. Jeremiah Wright has often cast him as a marginal, almost fringe figure, but Trinity Church is a major Chicago institution, and Wright has long been a prominent pastor on the American scene.

And an anonymous blog set up to defend his church offers some compelling photographic evidence of this: A photograph of Wright and President Clinton, which it says was taken on Sept. 11, 1998 -- the date of a White House gathering for religious leaders.

[UPDATE: The blog seems to have taken that item down; here's the full image that was posted.]

Hillary Clinton, according to her recently released schedule for the day, was present at the gathering. Al Gore also appears in the picture.

ELECTION 2008
Judge delays setting trial in Clinton fraud case
But accuser begins seeking sworn testimony from high-profile witnesses
www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=57009

Subject: Are the Clintons and Rev Wright still close enough to work together to wipe out Barack Obama ??????

Posted by: ajironworks | May 1, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

HOODWINKED OR HYPOCRITE?

Did Obama select the Trinity United Church of Christ, one with a huge attendance (VOTERS), where Rev. Wright preached Black Liberation Theology, ( Liberation theology as it has expressed itself in the African-American community seeks to find a way to make the gospel relevant to black people who must struggle daily under the burden of white oppression ) to build a base in Chicago's black politics?

(1.)Did Obama attend the TUCC for political expediency? ....Then Obama is a hypocrite.

(2.)Does Obama believe in and practice the Marxist - Black Liberation Theology- ie: "threatened on a daily basis by the insidious tentacles of white power". .........Then Obama is a racist.

3.)Does Obama still attend the TUCC with its' new pastor, Rev.Otis Moss 3rd preaches the same divisive Black Liberation Thelolgy? ........Then Obama is either a willing participant and believes in its' theology or Obama is naïve -unaware as he claims, and shows poor judgment.

If it's poor judgment then, Would I Vote For Some One Who Couldn't Figure Out That He Had Been Hoodwinked By His Pastor?

Posted by: EDR | May 1, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

I hear their is a video showing John McCain shaking hands with Hitler on the day of Pearl Harbor. I bet this is the first of many and many more claiming to have seen McCain in a Nazi Uniform during WWII. New news cyle on this every week beginning right after labor day if not before. It's called rumor.

Posted by: GRP | May 1, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Hey Leanza, you point out that you think Obama can be fooled by his pastor? How about Hillary being fooled by ol' Bill 'bout that intern. And then she goes on national TV and blames a "vast right wing conspiracy." Oh, that was hillaryious.

Posted by: Mark | May 1, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Meanwhile back on topic....

"How much more damage [Obama] may sustain is not knowable now."

Yep. But look how much this campaign has changed in the past 4 months. Four months ago Iowa hadn't voted and Clinton was still the heir apparent. Four months from now will still leave 2 months to go before the general election.

All things considered, I think this will be a very big dip (pothole) in Obama's road, but it is a road he will ultimately ride to the White House.

Why?

Because he is too far ahead of Clinton numerically and the Supers won't overturn the numbers regardless of Clinton's burning wish they would.

Second, because McCain has too much Bush Baggage regardless of his burning wish he didn't: Iraq, Recession, Katrina, Mortgage Meltdown, Gas prices, America's tortures, Many Children Left Behind, Bomb Bomb Iran, bin Laden still at large, America's diminished stature around the world, Weak dollar, ignored Global Warming, Cheney, Halliburton, Karl Rove. Are we really better off now than 8 years ago? You're kidding, right?

P.S. JakeD -- don't you have a job or something besides trolling these boards? Your (and Clinton's) math sucks. The only way she wins the popular vote is by IGNORING the 238,168 uncommitted votes in Michigan and IGNORING the votes in the caucus states. Wait, JakeD, I hear your mommy calling.


Posted by: egc52556 | May 1, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

I am so sick of David Axelrod and his thugs man manipulating the press, and I'm sick of Axelrod's efforts to tarnish Bill Clinton's legacy. Obama is so close to being finished. When he loses in NC, sound the death knell, and let's move on.

Posted by: Tyrone Jenkins | May 1, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

No, it isn't a "tipping point" against Obama or in Clinton's favor, because:

1) Obama is ahead in the delegates and will remain so.

2) Obama continues to pick up superdelegates, reducing Clinton's lead in that category.

3) The superdelegates know that snatching the nomination away from Obama would be suicide for the party--not only because they'd lose the black vote, but also because Clinton has zero appeal to independents and Republicans. (She also has a lousy fundraising record compared to Obama and his organization.)

4) In a general election, Obama will be able to draw distinctions between himself and his opponent far more than he can do now, because (a) he won't have to worry about alienating his opponents' supporters as he does in the primaries, and (b) the policy differences between Obama and McCain are vastly greater than the policy differences between Obama and Clinton.

Posted by: Durant Imboden | May 1, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Rules are rules, and superdelegates are part of the rules. If superdelegates are undemocratic, then it is also undemocratic to count the votes in Florida. Count my vote.

Posted by: Angry Floridian | May 1, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

I hear their is a video showing Obama shaking hands with Wright the day he gave his 9/11 speech. I bet this is the first of many and many more claiming to have seen Obama when these sermons were delivered. New news cyle on this every week beginning right after labor day if not before. It's called branding.

Posted by: PRG | May 1, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

It's really annoying to read this blog with all of JakeD's comments. Is there any way to censor particular posters out of my view? It's so annoying that I have stopped even reading most posts...

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

It's amazing that with all the frantic media's irresponsible coverage, Obama has only dipped a few percentage points even in the midst of the stupidity!!

He's still in the delegate and will regain his momentum after those in the media grow up and start focusing on the real issues that are important to the people (the economy, Iraq).

Posted by: Ann Clark | May 1, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Mist - What do you think of Sen. Obama's denunciation of Rev. Wright? Just curious.

Posted by: TerryM3 | May 1, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

I think this is so great though how we are debating, debating = change and thought. Which will make America great again as always. You think in Europe we could elect a African decent person? Only in this amazing wonderful country these things are possible and this is what is great about the USA.

Posted by: CJ | May 1, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Hey, 'The Wiser Voter', nice numbers from polls from sources like Fox News that change daily with the current media tide. How about bringing some quotes into the mix from actual former high-ranking Clinton Administration officals and cabniet members. Any to share? Here's one of many examples if you're having trouble finding some:

"Although Hillary Clinton has offered solid and sensible policy proposals, Obama's strike me as even more so. His plans for reforming Social Security and health care have a better chance of succeeding. His approaches to the housing crisis and the failures of our financial markets are sounder than hers. His ideas for improving our public schools and confronting the problems of poverty and inequality are more coherent and compelling. He has put forward the more enlightened foreign policy and the more thoughtful plan for controlling global warming."

- Quote from former Clinton Administration Labor Secretary Robert Reich who has endorsed Obama

Posted by: John, Fort Wayne Indiana | May 1, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

In 1961, a young African-American man, after hearing President John F.
Kennedy's challenge to, "Ask not what your Country can do for you, but
What you can do for your Country," gave up his student deferment, left
College in Virginia and voluntarily joined the Marines.

In 1963, this man, having completed his two years of service in the Marines, volunteered again to become a Navy corpsman. (They provide medical assistance to the Marines as well as to Navy personnel.)

The man did so well in corpsman school that he was the valedictorian and became a cardiopulmonary technician. Not surprisingly, he was assigned to the Navy's premier medical facility, Bethesda Naval Hospital, as a member of the commander in chief's medical team, and helped care for President Lyndon B. Johnson after his 1966 surgery.

For his service on the team, which he left in 1967, the White House awarded him three letters of commendation.

What is even more remarkable is that this man entered the Marines and Navy not many years after the two branches began to become integrated. While this young man was serving six years on active duty, Vice President Dick Cheney, who was born the same year as the Marine/ sailor, received five deferments, four for being an undergraduate and graduate student and one for being a prospective father.

Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, both five years younger than the African-American youth, used their student deferments to stay in college until 1968. Both then avoided going on active duty through family connections.

Who is the real patriot? The young man who interrupted his studies to serve his country for six years or our three political leaders who beat the system? Are the patriots the people who actually sacrifice something or those who merely talk about their love of the Country?

After leaving the service of his Country, the young African-American finished his final year of College, entered the Seminary, was ordained as a Minister, and eventually became pastor of a large church in one of America's biggest cities.

This man is Rev. Jeremiah Wright, the retired pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ.

Posted by: Mist | May 1, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Or, alternately, you could point out that those are states where Clinton either (a) won the primary, or (b) where neither candidate has had the chance to campaign -- a situation that seems to favor Clinton, given that she only seems capable of winning states where she starts with a 20-point lead.

The short-term trends have noise. But, over the course of the primary, I don't think there's any question that, the more voters get to see the two candidates, the better Obama has done.

But I guess I shouldn't try to convince Dan Balz, who seems totally intent on making the primary last as long as possible.

Posted by: davestickler | May 1, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

some of you guys are so funny!

Posted by: nicky1288 | May 1, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

What presidential candidate in history has ever had to answer for the sermons or comments of the pastor of his church? Who cares? This is absurd. It does go to show, however, that its not a good idea to mix religion with politics.

Posted by: Jeff | May 1, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

I'm so sick of this reality TV show that is our presidential election... Obama has my vote for the OR primary regardless of how "mired" he is in this stupid drama.

Posted by: Jason Stengren | May 1, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is so old, he and Alzheimer played pinochle

Posted by: Ron Paul | May 1, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

jakeD wrote:

"Uncommitted" was on the ballot in Michigan -- the Obama campaign was urging voters to do so and received 238,168 votes -- as compared to 328,309 for Senator Clinton.

Next canard?

--------------------

Canard?? Please.

The web site you quote gives Hillary a lead of 121,615 because it gives Obama 0 votes for Michigan. Realistic? Not at all. Give him those "uncommitted" votes you talk of and that lead is now reversed.

So, even if you count the Michigan and Florida, Obama has the lead.

No more deceiving arguments on the popular vote...

Posted by: Steve N | May 1, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse


Facts are a stubborn thing. Obama cannot close his 20 year old relationship with Wright because there is so much video evidence against it. On the TV program THE VIEW, Obama declared that Reverend Wright accepted that his view were inappropriate and mischaracterized. That it had offended many people. Then weeks later Wright goes on a national Hate America Press Tour? This was a blatant lie. Or worse, Obama was fooled by Wright which is kind of scary. That a possible next president can be played by a character such as Wright. Check the video evidence yourselves. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6J7yJ9R5p0

Posted by: Leanza Cornett | May 1, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

5/1/2008 1:54:02 PM
A spate of new public polls out this week confirms what we have been arguing for some time: Hillary Clinton is the strongest candidate to beat John McCain in November.

The data shows that Clinton not only outperforms Obama in head-to-head matchups, but is also stronger in the all important subcategories that serve as bellwethers for a candidate's overall strength. In addition, new data out today in three swing states vital to Democratic prospects in November show Clinton beating McCain.

HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH MCCAIN: In a hypothetical general election match-up with McCain, Clinton wins handily (50-41) while Obama is virtually tied with McCain (46-44), according to the AP-Ipsos poll released Monday. A new poll from CBS/NYT show Clinton beating McCain by five points (48-43), while Obama ties McCain (45-45). The new Fox poll has Clinton beating McCain by one point (45-44), while Obama trails McCain by three points (43-46). And in Gallup's daily tracking poll, Clinton leads McCain by one point (46-45) while Obama trails McCain by two points (44-46).

SWING STATES: New Quinnipiac polls out today show Clinton dramatically outperforms Obama in the critical swing states of Ohio in Florida. In Ohio, Clinton beats McCain by ten points (48-38), while Obama loses to him by one point (43-44). In Florida, Clinton beats McCain by 8 (49-41), while Obama loses to him by one point (42-43). Hillary also tops McCain by 14 points in Pennsylvania (51-37), while Obama's lead over McCain is in single digits.

CLINTON BEATS MCCAIN AMONG INDEPENDENT VOTERS; OBAMA TIES HIM: The new AP poll has Clinton leading McCain among independents (50-34) while Obama is tied with him (42-42). The NBC/WSJ poll notes that Obama's negative ratings among independents are they highest they have ever been.

CLINTON IS THE CANDIDATE VOTERS TRUST WITH THE ECONOMY: The economy is the top issue among voters and is likely to remain so through November. In the CBS/NYT poll, Hillary beat both Obama and McCain as the candidate who is talking about the economy most by a margin of 25% to Obama's 13% and McCain's 7%.

OBAMA UNFAVORABLES RISING QUICKLY: In the CBS/NYT poll, Obama's unfavorables increased by ten points in the last month (24 to 34%) while his favorables decreased by four points. In the CBS/NYT poll, Obama's unfavorables among independents rose to 31%. The Fox poll shows that in the last two months, Obama's unfavorables have increased by nine points (33 to 42%) while his favorables decreased by seven points (54 to 47%). In the NBC/Wall Street Journal poll, Obama's negative ratings increased by five points in the last month (32 to 37%) while his positive ratings decreased by three points in the last month (49 to 46%).

CLINTON STRONGEST AMONG SWING VOTING BLOCS: The new AP-Ipsos poll shows Clinton leading McCain among seniors (51-39) but has McCain BEATING Obama (49-38). She runs stronger against McCain with those under 30 than Obama does, pulling two-thirds of the young vote while Obama gets 55% against McCain. And she wins the Catholic vote against McCain (58-35) while McCain beats Obama (46-43).

Posted by: The Wiser Voter | May 1, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is so old, his social security number is 13.

Posted by: JakeD's shadow | May 1, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is so old, he farts out mummy dust.

Posted by: JakeD's shadow | May 1, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

eddie and DonJulio:

I will accept whatever the Credentials Committee votes on Florida and Michigan at the convention ; )

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is so old, his wife Cindy made the dinner at the Last Supper. I think the recipe for the bread was not hers then either.

Posted by: JakeD's shadow | May 1, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Presidential Preference:

1. Hillary Clinton, if not

2. John McCain

9. Obama

GO OBAMA!!!

Posted by: The Wiser Voter | May 1, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Thanks to Rev. Wright Obama is doomed and so is the White House chances for Democrats. Sorry but, thanks the Rev. for a McCain win in November. Hilary comes back in 2012 and wins by a landslide. Rev. Wright proved Blacks are racist too.

No to Obama in 08

Posted by: Rafael | May 1, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

You must mean "Not So Clear Politics?"

Even the foes agree Michigan won't count. Obama followed national party rules concerning the contest and withdrew his name. When Hill-Bill is down the rules don't seem to count anymore.

The Old Guard is done. Bush and Clinton's have the world thinking we are stuck in the spin cylce. It's time for change.

Posted by: DonJulio | May 1, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

popular vote = no merit

Posted by: eddie | May 1, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

"Uncommitted" was on the ballot in Michigan -- the Obama campaign was urging voters to do so and received 238,168 votes -- as compared to 328,309 for Senator Clinton.

Next canard?

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Take it up with Real Clear Politics.

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Talk about playing with the math, jakeD. Last I checked, people couldn't even vote for Obama in Michigan. That's ok, keep drinking the koolaid.

Posted by: TheGribbler | May 1, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

P.S. -- if Florida and Michigan are counted, HILLARY is in the lead with total popular vote by 121,615 : )

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

LOL! Mr. Balz, Someone(Not me), threw a Chinese(Imagine) Finger-Trap into the Dimocrat Primaries called "Race".

The Finger-Trap was Soooo Big, Both Billary and Obasama and his Pastor managed to get all their Fingers stuck in it on both sides.

Bad News for the the Dimocrat Socialists. "Howling" Dean came along and all he could do is yell:

YEEEeeeeaaaaAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!! ;~)

Posted by: RAT-The | May 1, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Guam is actually going to vote first, on Saturday (did anyone see The Colbert Report last night ; )

Also, I heard that Northwestern University withdrew an invitation for the Reverend Jeremiah Wright to receive an honorary degree at this year's commencement ...

The hits keep coming.

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

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