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Hillary Clinton speaks at a campaign stop, May 8, 2008, at the Sioux Falls Airport in Sioux Falls, S.D. (Associated Press)

By Dan Balz
How will the Democratic nomination battle end?

At a time when the Hillary Clinton faces ever longer odds in her quest to deny Barack Obama the nomination, that question has becoming increasingly important to the candidates and the party. Will it end happily or unhappily? Will the loser go graciously or bitterly? Will the Democrats end up united or divided?

Clinton has vowed to stay in "until there is a nominee," but even with six primaries left on the calendar, the party is beginning to coalesce around Obama. The Illinois senator may lack the necessary delegates to secure the nomination, but after Tuesday's results in North Carolina and Indiana, Clinton advisers recognize that it will take a dramatic and unexpected change in the race to prevent him from winning.

Still, from the Clinton's campaign, there is no talk of bringing the race to an end any time soon. From her vantage point, she has, in recent weeks, won Ohio, Pennsylvania and Indiana and the popular vote in Texas. Obama won Mississippi and North Carolina. She has won critical battleground states and, in her view, is holding the constituencies vital to Democratic hopes of winning in November. Why not stay in until the end?

With just six states or territories still left to vote, she is determined to run out the calendar. She believes the competition with Obama has produced record turnout, a surge of new registrants for the Democratic Party and a cadre of now-seasoned organizers who will be paying dividends for years to Democratic candidates for House, Senate and governor. Her advisers are realists, but some genuinely think it is still possible to win -- not probable by any means, but not totally out of the question.

Party strategists sketch out at least three scenarios for a possible end to the Clinton campaign. The cleanest envisions the New York senator suddenly deciding the race is over and, for the good of the party, deciding to suspend her candidacy. That could happen after next week's primary in West Virginia, which she is expected to win easily, or the following week, when she is expected to win Kentucky and Obama is favored to win Oregon.

Obama said that after the May 20 primaries, he may be able to claim a majority of the pledged delegates and, therefore, the nomination. That could put pressure on her to quit -- though her advisers argue that they are not buying the arithmetic he is using to make that claim.

The messy scenario would see Clinton continuing her campaign all the way to the Democratic National Convention in Denver next August, challenging Obama long after the primaries end, arguing that she would be the stronger nominee against John McCain, mounting challenges before the party's credentials committee over the seating of Michigan and Florida, coming up with test votes to hector the Obama campaign and generally refusing to yield until the convention votes.

At this point, neither the clean nor messy endgame seems likely -- to strategists in either campaign or to other Democrats watching the race. Clinton vowed to stay in the race but also has pledged that, if it is clear that Obama has the nomination sewn up, she will support Obama and work to unify the party and defeat John McCain in the fall.

That suggests the race will not end before June 3 but could end soon after. Given what she said Wednesday about staying in until there is a nominee, and given the likelihood of rapid movement of superdelegates to Obama once the primaries are over (if not before), Clinton could declare the race over at that point.

"My best guess is, if that happens, she will stand down in June, with a declaration that she is suspending her campaign," said William Galston, a Brookings Institution scholar who served as White House domestic policy adviser in former president Bill Clinton's administration. "In the interim I expect her to wage an affirmative campaign, in part because she's being urged to do so and in part because it's very much in her interest to do so."

A fourth scenario envisions Clinton being forced suddenly to suspend her campaign because she is out of money. Already she and her husband have loaned the campaign more than $11 million. In addition, the campaign had reported debts of about $10 million. Her victory in Pennsylvania produced a flood of money, but if that also has happened in the wake of her victory in Indiana, the campaign has carefully withheld the information. Will she and her husband dip further into their assets to keep going?

What makes this nomination battle unusual is that the terms of her withdrawal are murky. If she sues for peace, what is her price? Obama v. Clinton is not the same as Carter v. Kennedy in 1980, when the Massachusetts senator had significant policy differences with the then president. Kennedy wanted concessions in the platform as the price of his eventual (and tenuous) support.

Obama and Clinton have few major policy differences. Her health-care plan includes a mandate, his doesn't. But both favor a big plan and the goal of universal coverage. He opposed the Iraq war and she voted to authorize it, but at this point, their exit strategies are not significantly different. What could Obama offer that would give her the ability to say her campaign had made a significant difference in the party's platform?

Nor is this race akin to 1988, when Jesse L. Jackson demanded of then Massachusetts Gov. Michael Dukakis changes in the nomination process as part of his price for a quiet convention. Dukakis agreed to a plan for proportional distribution of delegates -- the very rules that have hampered Clinton this spring as she has struggled to overcome Obama's relatively narrow lead in pledged delegates.

Perhaps she will call for a change in those rules to diminish the caucuses that she dislikes so much. But it is unlikely that there will be dramatic rewriting of the rules this summer. That awaits the end of the campaign.

Clinton is preparing to make a stand on Michigan and Florida. The Democratic National Committee's Rule and Bylaws Committee will meet on May 31 to consider challenges to the sanctions slapped on the two states last year. Clinton wants both delegations seated. But Democratic strategists doubt there can be a resolution to this dispute unless the Obama campaign agrees to it -- and Obama's team will not agree to anything that jeopardizes the nomination.

Obama advisers are watching and waiting. They are concerned that Clinton appears ready to continue to challenge Obama's strength as a general election candidate. Inside the Obama camp, there is a consensus that she should be given time and space to ease down from the intense combat of recent months and to make a transition to more positive campaigning.

Right now, they do not want to do anything to antagonize her by calling for her to accept the inevitable and get out or questioning her motives for staying in. But they are reluctant to sit back in the face of attacks from candidate Clinton or her advisers and they are not happy with some of the things she has said in the past few days.

So as settled as the outcome of the Democratic race may seem by the delegate math, it is far from over when it comes to the potential consequences for future candidates and the party.

By Web Politics Editor  |  May 8, 2008; 6:58 PM ET
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Hillary Begs for a chance to Nuke. Swing State Democrats Say Hillary is a no-no, For The text of the letter is below.
Dear Fellow Comrads for War. Obama can't win, for we have the riches, and why should we have to worry about the somewhat white people, or the uneducated hicks looking for a freebie. So I ask for your financial aid in pulling this off. Pleas, Please Super Duper Delegates. Im the one, me, me, me, me, me, or Dam it you will pay if you tick me off.
We are writing to you because of our shared belief in our Party's principles and our commitment to ensuring that we have the strongest possible nominee to lead our ticket against John McCain and the Republicans in November.
The decision about who to support to be our Party's nominee is not one that any of us should take lightly. We haven't. But, after giving this important decision a great deal of thought, we are convinced that Senator Obama has the vision, skills and commitment to make the changes our country needs. As Democrats who have run and won in competitive Congressional districts and battleground states, we believe that Hillary is best positioned to successfully lead the Democratic ticket in districts and states like ours around the country.
As you know, Hillary has racked up victories in bellwether states like Ohio, Pennsylvania and now Indiana that are absolutely vital to winning the White House and maintaining our Congressional majority in the fall. Hillary has won the big battleground states by connecting with voters whose support we must have to win the general election. Her victories in Pennsylvania and Indiana were all the more impressive after being outspent by as much as two or three to one.
Pennsylvania was not just a victory for Hillary Clinton. It was also a wake- up call for superdelegates, forcing us to ask ourselves two essential questions: 1) Which candidate can carry the magic 270 electoral votes to win in the fall? 2) Which candidate is most likely to help our fellow Democrats in down-ballot races? We believe the answer to both of these questions is Hillary Clinton.
On the first question, Hillary has shown she can win the all-important battleground states like Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida even while being outspent. This speaks to her ability to connect with voters we must deliver in the fall, including blue collar Democrats who can sway this election as they have in the past.
On the second question, Hillary has won, in her dreams, rural and suburban districts which we as Democrats must carry to maintain our edge in Congress. Of the fifteen districts rated "toss up" by the Cook Political Report, Hillary has now won ten. Of the 20 districts we picked up in 2006 that had gone for President Bush just two years before, Hillary has now won 16. She is strong, and crafty in the places we must win to hold and expand our majority.
This is a historically close race. The candidates are separated by a mere percentage point or two and the path to victory for each candidate is the same: win in the upcoming states and secure enough pledged and automatic delegates to get to the number required to win the nomination.
The race now turns to the remaining six contests where the focus will be squarely on the economy. Voters in our states and across the country are voting on issues that affect them, their communities and their children's future. We believe that they will decide that Hillary is the candidate who best understands those issues and has the best solutions to address them.
We Democrats are justifiably proud of one candidate. I mean, Dam, the pressures getting to me, Bill, I hear sniper fire. Who am I??? Senator Obama, We meen Hilary, is our Party's nominee, we will enthusiastically support Hilarious. But our responsibility is not to choose simply to support the eventual nominee, me,me; it is to help select the nominee who is best for our party and best for our country. Our choice is clear: Obama is that candidate. We believe he should be your choice as well.
Thank you for consideration. Give War a chance.
Sincerely,
Rep. Michael Arcuri (NY-24)
Rep. Shelley Berkley (NV-01)
Rep. Marion Berry (AR-1)
Rep. Henry Cuellar (TX-28)
Rep. Kirsten Gillibrand (NY-20)
Rep. Gene Green (TX -29)
Rep. John Hall (NY-19)
Rep. Darlene Hooley (OR-5)
Rep. Kendrick B. Meek (FL-17)
Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones (OH-11)
Rep. Silvestre Reyes (TX-16)
Rep. Mike Ross (AR-4)
Rep. Joe Sestak (PA-8)
Rep. Ike Skelton (MO-4)
Rep. John Tanner (TN-8)
Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (FL-20)

Posted by: justadad55+ | May 10, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Americans are fascinating, so this is what you call Democracy. The only justified world leader for the world?? Yes, Saddam killed many which is true, but President Bush killed so many, many more, Iraq people and your own. He destroyed a once Beautiful Country for no legitimate reason, and now will not fix it. Truth be know, no new leader can undo the mess he has started. He poisoned the air and soil that US soldiers are fighting on today for decades. So more lives will be ruined and many more Iraq civilians and American troops will die . That was a great Kaboom George, must give you credit when due. And the nerve now to call Senator Olbama the Devil. The Devil is wearing a skirt and you all are blinded. The Devil will obliterate anything at anytime. Bring your power and might back home where you just might need it the most. Help Americans first.

Posted by: justadad55+ | May 10, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

She CANT quit and go back to being a Senator, because she knows she losing ground there as well. The people of New York are ready to hold her accountable for her failures, particularly since she is so willing to make the exact same promises during this campaign that she hasn't delivered to NY. Create jobs, preserve existing jobs, restore the area so that people didn't have to move away (at the time around 10-15 thousand each year were leaving) etc etc etc. The result? Erie county alone has lost more than 4% of their population since 2000, 7 or 8 counties in Western NY have lost population. Over 1/2 dozen plants have closed: Ford, Smurfit Stone, American Axle to name a few, TRICO, etc etc.
She has failed the very people she's making promises to now. She takes corp. $$ to give them a wide berth in terms of employment, and now she's actually for the employees?
She got me in 2000. I'll admit it. Now she's getting all the other shift workers just like I was who are hearing her spiel for the first time.
Someone with courage needs to stand up and kick her out of this party ASAP. This woman is poison. Unfortunately, too many of our elected superdelegates see their future lobbyist money drying up with her campaign.
It's time to hold them all accountable.
Or, maybe wait around until Barack gets run over by his campaign bus. That's the only chance she's got.
Better hope no tornadoes wreak havoc on your trailer white tr....uh, your NEW base.

Posted by: Former Western New Yorker | May 10, 2008 12:06 AM | Report abuse

She CANT quit and go back to being a Senator, because she knows she losing ground there as well. The people of New York are ready to hold her accountable for her failures, particularly since she is so willing to make the exact same promises during this campaign that she hasn't delivered to NY. Create jobs, preserve existing jobs, restore the area so that people didn't have to move away (at the time around 10-15 thousand each year were leaving) etc etc etc. The result? Erie county alone has lost more than 4% of their population since 2000, 7 or 8 counties in Western NY have lost population. Over 1/2 dozen plants have closed: Ford, Smurfit Stone, American Axle to name a few, TRICO, etc etc.
She has failed the very people she's making promises to now. She takes corp. $$ to give them a wide berth in terms of employment, and now she's actually for the employees?
She got me in 2000. I'll admit it. Now she's getting all the other shift workers just like I was who are hearing her spiel for the first time.
Someone with courage needs to stand up and kick her out of this party ASAP. This woman is poison. Unfortunately, too many of our elected superdelegates see their future lobbyist money drying up with her campaign.
It's time to hold them all accountable.
Or, maybe wait around until Barack gets run over by his campaign bus. That's the only chance she's got.
Better hope no tornadoes wreak havoc on your trailer white tr....uh, your NEW base.

Posted by: Former Western New Yorker | May 10, 2008 12:06 AM | Report abuse

She CANT quit and go back to being a Senator, because she knows she losing ground there as well. The people of New York are ready to hold her accountable for her failures, particularly since she is so willing to make the exact same promises during this campaign that she hasn't delivered to NY. Create jobs, preserve existing jobs, restore the area so that people didn't have to move away (at the time around 10-15 thousand each year were leaving) etc etc etc. The result? Erie county alone has lost more than 4% of their population since 2000, 7 or 8 counties in Western NY have lost population. Over 1/2 dozen plants have closed: Ford, Smurfit Stone, American Axle to name a few, TRICO, etc etc.
She has failed the very people she's making promises to now. She takes corp. $$ to give them a wide berth in terms of employment, and now she's actually for the employees?
She got me in 2000. I'll admit it. Now she's getting all the other shift workers just like I was who are hearing her spiel for the first time.
Someone with courage needs to stand up and kick her out of this party ASAP. This woman is poison. Unfortunately, too many of our elected superdelegates see their future lobbyist money drying up with her campaign.
It's time to hold them all accountable.
Or, maybe wait around until Barack gets run over by his campaign bus. That's the only chance she's got.
Better hope no tornadoes wreak havoc on your trailer white tr....uh, your NEW base.

Posted by: Former Western New Yorker | May 10, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

I'm still waiting, and still hoping that after all this mess blows over, someone in either party will bring out the REAL candidates and we can finally have someone to look forward to.
Until then, my vote will be cast as it usually is in each election..."None Of The Above".
I still don't understand why the Repugs or the Demoncrap's call themselves "Parties". If this is their idea of a party, I think I'd rather attend a lecture on the joys of cleaning one's own toilet with Amway Products.

Posted by: Walley | May 9, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

getoveryourself posted:

"The Larry Sinclair vs Obama story will soon hit the big news and it will stop Obama in his tracks! Obama can't handle the truth! Hillary can!"

It may be that this election will turn on foreign intervention on U.S. elections.

There is an intersection between the Larry Sinclair/Donald Young story (which is bascially a sex-patsy and a murder done by FBI Frumenschen-CoIntelPro operatives and Mossad-Secret Service operatives, with dual passports and single allegances) and the Vince Forster murder (by the same racist dual passport FBI and SS operatives) and dear Monica, with her FBI-fabricated fishy blue dress story (or did it really belong to crossdresser Ken Doll, the street boy Starr).

Early in the 3rd quarter of the Clinton administration, a phenomenon called the "Friends of Bill" suddenly begain to gain momentum. FOB included the likes of Lani Guinere (who was career assassinated), Ron Brown (who was blood assassinated), and Vernon Jordan, who was tied in the zionist wall street crowd). Suddenly, out of nowhere, wham! -- we have a dead body in a closet office right next to the Oval Office. Best yet, a strand of blond hair had been scotch taped to the lapel of his jacket.

The message to the largely "black" and powerful FOB was clear -- there are racist operatives inside the DOJ, FBI and SS who can smear up and even murder, whoever they want (including US Presidents--JFK), whenever they want, whereever they want (including in the oval office), and they can get away with it all, with untouchable immunity.

The same zionist-racists (and their obedient media) that recruited, trained, placed and deployed Monica as a sex victim for Bill (I don't believe for a minute that as President, he "whiped" it out and spotted himself all over "her" fishy blue dress -- the racist goons inside the FBI are totally nuerotic racist pedophiles who practice trained "testilying" on everybody else, and they regularly falsify affidavits and fabricate evidence from whole cloth to trap "their" enemy) have deployed a similar "sex victim" homosexual, named Larry Sinclair, against Obama (who like Bill may have done some pretty stupid things early on in his political life with the stupidest part of his body). These racist operatives, who be assured seeth in hatred for Obama, have also done a murder in the cathedral with their Christmas Eve murder of Rev. Wright's choirmaster, another black Christian homosexual named Donald Young. It would not surprise me in the least if happens that, just like Vince Foster had a blond hair scotch taped to his lapel, DY's shirt has been conveniently spotted up with some of Larry Sinclair's high class hotel gatherings.

These are all deployed sex-victim setups, and murders. They are done by a foreign power, in the name of dirtying up and controlling future American politicians.

Posted by: SecretServiceForZion | May 9, 2008 8:00 PM | Report abuse

I supported Senator Obama before he was a candidate. So much so that I wrote to him asking that he run. But while I believe he is the better candidate for our country at this time, I respect Senator Clinton for what she has done to illustrate that the United States is ready to elect a female President. I think she's proven herself in that regard.

And I don't actually think that it's ego or hubris or bitterness that keeping her in this campaign. It's just that she can't quit. Like it or not, she needs to see it through at this point until the last votes are cast.

Why? Personality type. INTJ. Interesting coverage of the candidates at typelogic.com.

And why am I so sure? Becuase I'm an INTJ. And we're like pit bulls with a bone when we have a goal in mind. And we think we're always right. Still, ultimately I don't think that's what we need at this time.

Better to elect an ENFJ. Like Barack Obama is. Interestingly enough, so was Abraham Lincoln and Ronald Reagan. The policies may be different, but it's morning in America again.

Posted by: Rebecca Jodoin | May 9, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Obama Supporters:

Ask Obama, why he want to be a president and you tell me what good you are seeing than McCain or Hillary?

McCain is great in many and he republican and supports democrats, so he is going to be the WINNER for 2008 GE.

Posted by: CHAN | May 9, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

I can respect the republican posters heres loyalty, but you have been delt a losing hand with John Mccain. He has just been served up as a punching bag by a party who know they could not win this election. I am afraid he is their sacrificial goat as they look to 2012.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

I can respect the republican posters heres loyalty, but you have been delt a losing hand with John Mccain. He has just been served up as a punching bag by a party who know they could not win this election. I am afraid he is their sacrificial goat as they look to 2012.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

I can respect the republican posters heres loyalty, but you have been delt a losing hand with John Mccain. He has just been served up as a punching bag by a party who know they could not win this election. I am afraid he is their sacrificial goat as they look to 2012.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

I don't think they could even if they tried. Remember the Nixon Kennedy match up? This will be even worse. A dynamic young vibrant candidate with new ideas and enthusiastic support and then you have Mccain. I can hardly imagine the visual when they debate as Mccain stumbles over his words, miss speaks forgets names and confuses issues. Then add to that 8 years of George Bush and It will in reality be a blow out by Obama. Mccain will disintegrate before your very eyes. To be honest, I almost feel sorry for him and his wife as the drugs and drinking and their personal histories are dredged up again. I can't believe they even want to go through this again after the last time. They are going to be completely destroyed in the process it will just be a matter of how dirty the Obama surrogates want to get.


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All this division could lead to a McCain win and then what? How could there be reports of McCain having a shot considering the current administration and issues we have in this country from the economy to foreign policy. Could it be possible that the Dems blow this? Maybe!

Posted by: | May 9, 2008 10:01 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

All this division could lead to a McCain win and then what? How could there be reports of McCain having a shot considering the current administration and issues we have in this country from the economy to foreign policy. Could it be possible that the Dems blow this? Maybe!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Who cares, he is the nominee and the process will play out. Nothing is certain with anything. Would you like to pull up some polls from 7 months ago. You will find Hillary can't lose she is a lock and there is almost no reason for anyone else to run. So much for polls.

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Obama will not win the GE.

Does anyone pay any attention the Real Clear Politics polls?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpolls/index.html

Posted by: Julie | May 9, 2008 9:48 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Obama will not win the GE.

Does anyone pay any attention the Real Clear Politics polls?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpolls/index.html

Posted by: Julie | May 9, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

It is not Obama supporters pushing her out, it's the voters. I have to laugh when she says she is fighting for the voters in Michigan and Florida when she wants to forget about the democratic process all together and have all the results nullified so she can win.

I have a theory and I don't think I am far off. Bill has been influence peddling for several years now getting tens of millions for so call speeches. I honest to God think they have made promises based on some certainty she would be president they can't deliver on now and they are in a panic.

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I find it disturbing how Obama's supports, Obama, Howard Dean and the DNC are almost demanding that Hillary step aside for the Party

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Hillary is a racist.

Posted by: gmundenat | May 9, 2008 9:36 AM | Report abuse

RE bush supporter at 8:28am. Now please take a deep breath and try to look through the clouds of dementia. Republicans controlled congress when we invaded Iraq. I know Rush, O'Reilly, and the other gods you worship will tell you otherwise, but it's true.

Posted by: MikeMcNally | May 9, 2008 9:13 AM | Report abuse

If Hillary's campaign is in debt now, how can she run a country that needs to come out of recession?. Will she sink it to depression?

Posted by: ccc | May 9, 2008 9:09 AM | Report abuse

I find it disturbing how Obama's supports, Obama, Howard Dean and the DNC are almost demanding that Hillary step aside for the Party (ANC, Nazi, ...).

This is America!! It is not about what is good for the Party, It is about what is good for America and the American people!! Hillary is for America and the American people, as was Ross Perot. That is why a lot both Democrats and Republicans, as well as Independents (free thinkers!!, like Hillary, Ross Perot and Bertrand Russell) are all overwhelmingly for Hillary. She may not get the nomination or be elected President. Ross Perot was not either, but he had an effect on the CHANGE in America. So Obama's idea that he needs to be elected President and get the Democratic party's nomination to effect change is not consistent with the facts and history. But then we all know he is very inexperienced and is not at the same level as Ross Perot and Hillary Clinton, who also spent large portions of their own money. They do not expect the tax payers and others to pay their way, they way Obama, Howard Dean and the DNC insiders do. They are the worst of the worst, the so-called DNC elite, like John Kerry. They made many of us puke with the rhetoric that Kerry spewed, comparing himself to JFK. Now Obama is spewing similar trite how America needs change and ONLY HE is the one to know what change America needs. What a bunch of poppycock, rubbish and Quatsch. The Michigan and Florida Democratic parties also have ideas for change, new ideas, .. They moved up their Democratic primary dates to START the change within the Democratic party. And how did Obama, Howard Dean and the DNC insiders deal with CHANGE?
They nuked Michigan and Florida by not evening counting their votes. So Obama, Howard Dean and the DNC insiders are ONLY FOR THEIR OWN CHANGE! Sound familiar. Very similar in Lenin/Stalin Russia, Hilter Germany, modern day Iran, North Korea and also Mainland Communist China. Knock down the voice of you opponents in Michigan, Florida and Ross Perot, Hillary Clinton and McCain supporters.

So there are only two alternatives: McCain or Hillary Clinton. Obama, Howard Dean and the DNC insiders MUST GO. They are a cancer in America, similar to the cancers in North Korea, Iran, and the former Soviet Union and Nazi Germany. Any party or small fringe group in a party which wants to disenfranchise millions of voters in Michigan and Florida has NOT RIGHT or PLACE being in Washington, Lansing or Miami. The Michigan and Florida Democratic parties should split off from the DNC if their delegates and votes are not seated and counted. If they are recognized, then they should put Hillary Clinton on the ballot in Michigan and leave Obama off. Since he got ZERO votes in the Democratic party primary in Michigan, there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON for him to be on the ballot in November. And HE, Obama, TOOK HIMSELF out of the running in Michigan. So he only has himself, Howard Dean and the DNC insiders to blame. He cannot blame Hillary for this one. Obama and his supporters need to wake up and see the LIGHT and the TRUTH. The light and the truth will set us all free. Obama, Howard Dean and the DNC are all deceiving themselves (self deception) and the many many blind supporters (like Jonestown, ...). The blind lead the blind. Take off you blinders people and see the light and the truth about Obama, Howard Dean and the DNC insiders. Obama has benefited from the system which was instituted into Democratic party politics by Jessie Jackson. Since these policies have been instituted the DNC insiders have seized control of the Democratic party from the American people, specifically from the Michigan and Florida Democrats. The only obvious solution is for the Democrats in both Michigan and Florida to make a clean break from the Obama, Howard Dean and the DNC (ANC, Nazi Party, ...).

Posted by: Aussie2020 | May 9, 2008 9:07 AM | Report abuse

If Hillary's campaign is in debt now, how can she run a country that needs to come out of recession?. Will she sink it to depression?

Posted by: ccc | May 9, 2008 8:58 AM | Report abuse

people forget that bush isn't "responsible" for the war in Iraq. America has a system of "checks and balances" bush had to go through congress to get the approval for the war...and guess what!!? we have a DEMOCRATIC congress. think about that.

Posted by: bush supporter | May 9, 2008 8:28 AM | Report abuse

Hillary is not going to quit until she does some major damage. It's not in her personality to care about others, only herself. It's sad to see a lot of her followers being disillusioned that she might represent some sort of change. A lot of people were fooled by Bush not only once, but twice. Yet a lot of them are crossing the line to vote for a change, and not because Rush told them to. People really need to dig deep and search for their definition of patriotism. Bush and Hillary represent the worst examples of what has been happening and what can happen to our country.

Posted by: MikeMcNally | May 9, 2008 7:41 AM | Report abuse

To kenonwenu: How Obama explained away his racism
Obama explained that he meant to say she his grandmother was a typical 'white person,' all of whom have an inbred fear of others. His later remarks about bitter, unemployed white folk clinging to their guns and religion and nervously eyeing strangers and free trade deals simply exacerbated his earlier remarks.
So it is not just what Wright has said, it is also what Obama has said and not said. To be "Catholic," Obama's own sins of commission and omission explain why many do not trust him.
You do not have to be older or white or less educated or less affluent to find such remarks disturbing -- unless you also believe that "down-scale" white folk are even more of a problem in this country than "rich white" folk.
In reality, the history of racism and discrimination in this country is much more complex than Obama's self-serving speeches suggests; not only have Asians and Latinos experienced it, so have many whites - unless, of course, you believe that the social and economic segmentation of this country occurred "naturally."

Posted by: Thank you Hillary for never giving up! | May 9, 2008 5:25 AM | Report abuse

20012 is a long way off for Hilary to hope for. She is not a tough Southern women, she has sadly lost it. I would not worry about 20012 at all. She still has plenty of powerful nutty old folk with money we will never know, the invisible leaders, the people really in charge that could pull this stunt off. How she accomplishes this is should be a concern for all Americans. She has a selfish-bully type of ego,mean, and with money, not necessary hers. She also has the right but wrong connections and must have her way, and frankly, it scares the hell out of me and I find it quite creepy wondering how she might do it ??????

Posted by: justadad55+ | May 9, 2008 5:08 AM | Report abuse

Sure Clinton lady is doing well by all accounts and does not like to say 'yes' till the end.We feel in India that she would win in the end come what may. Her adversary never thought she would not give in so easily. She is a tough lady and Ladies in India do not give in so easily. In any case a Democrat President would still write history either way as the first woman or as the first black or even as the first combine of a man and wife in the president seat. achuta
hail to lady clinton a well wisher -achuta

Posted by: achuta ramaiah | May 9, 2008 4:10 AM | Report abuse

I voted for Clinton in the California primary, but now I think she has lost her mind.
Can't one put the party and ideas ahead of themselves?
Isn't the most important thing to stop McCain? He no different than Bush.
I have come to the conclusion that Hilary is out to destroy the Democratics possiblity to win the white house without her!!

Posted by: James San DIego | May 9, 2008 4:01 AM | Report abuse

"has becoming"? does anyone proofread this?

Posted by: StefanoReadingFromItaly | May 9, 2008 3:31 AM | Report abuse

Hillary - Take the vice-presidency when it's offered to you. Obama's going to be blown to pieces in a car explosion prior to his inauguration. When that happens, you'll automatically step up to president.

Posted by: Cassandra | May 9, 2008 3:31 AM | Report abuse

Really wish Ron Paul stood some sort of chance.
Well, then again... Maybe he does!

Posted by: RPin08 | May 9, 2008 3:17 AM | Report abuse

Loyal supporters should stop fooling themselves into believing Hillary has any experience now to bring to the election.

Hillary is doing nothing more now than looking completely desperate and the general feeling is yes she still wants power and is deluded that's she can still do that, but more important she wants to keep fund raising to try and get the money Bill and herself have loaned to the campaign.

The DNC can't allow her personal greed and vanity to keep her negative bitter campaign going, the damage she is doing to Our Party will never be forgiven if she does not stand aside in grace.

Posted by: John B Sheffield | May 9, 2008 2:17 AM | Report abuse


Hillary We need your experience. Keep fighting for us. We are fighting with you all the way. We who support you are sick of the stereotyping done by the CNN and MSNBC punditry, like for instance calling Clinton supporters "downscaled, uneducated, lunch-bucket voters." These insulting comments have been ongoing night and day. It has been a constant barrage, a wallpapering, of positive coverage for your opponent, followed by insulting commentary towards you and your supporters. They have shown their overwhelming support and biased opinions towards your opponent, even though he has lost every debate and clearly has no experience and is only ahead by gaming and cheating the caucuses. Once again, like eight years ago, the so-called "fourth estate" is not doing their job. It leads me to have the understanding that those with wealth do not like it when WE, the people, vote. Hillary won in Indiana in spite of the hanky pinkie in Gary, with holding the count! Even though we may not have much monetary wealth, we have as much power as the wealthy when we vote! A lot of closed minded people don't like that.
We may not have all the riches America has to offer. Nor have we attended the wealthiest and best schools. Remember, those who fought for the independence of our country in the Revolutionary War were not Harvard graduates. But we do have the wisdom to choose the right candidate for president, with clearly the right kind of experience and leadership skills. And we've been voting in mass numbers for you Hillary. Like in FL, MI, those votes must be counted! It's un-American not to count the votes.
Because you and Bill have earned your wealth, you have never forgotten what this country has given you. And in return you have given it right back. You have always had open hearts, and I know you hear us. Hillary, you keep reaching for the White House, and if you keep pulling us up with you to the top, we'll keep reaching with you and Bill. Hillary, we may not have all the riches America has to offer, but WE ARE THE HEART AND SOLE OF AMERICA. WE ARE THE TRUE SPIRIT OF AMERICA, AND WE WANT HILLARY CLINTON FOR OUR PRESIDENT. *****

Posted by: HILLARY ***08 | May 9, 2008 1:45 AM | Report abuse


Hillary We need your experience. Keep fighting for us. We are fighting with you all the way. We who support you are sick of the stereotyping done by the CNN and MSNBC punditry, like for instance calling Clinton supporters "downscaled, uneducated, lunch-bucket voters." These insulting comments have been ongoing night and day. It has been a constant barrage, a wallpapering, of positive coverage for your opponent, followed by insulting commentary towards you and your supporters. They have shown their overwhelming support and biased opinions towards your opponent, even though he has lost every debate and clearly has no experience and is only ahead by gaming and cheating the caucuses. Once again, like eight years ago, the so-called "fourth estate" is not doing their job. It leads me to have the understanding that those with wealth do not like it when WE, the people, vote. Hillary won in Indiana in spite of the hanky pinkie in Gary, with holding the count! Even though we may not have much monetary wealth, we have as much power as the wealthy when we vote! A lot of closed minded people don't like that.
We may not have all the riches America has to offer. Nor have we attended the wealthiest and best schools. Remember, those who fought for the independence of our country in the Revolutionary War were not Harvard graduates. But we do have the wisdom to choose the right candidate for president, with clearly the right kind of experience and leadership skills. And we've been voting in mass numbers for you Hillary. Like in FL, MI, those votes must be counted! It's un-American not to count the votes.
Because you and Bill have earned your wealth, you have never forgotten what this country has given you. And in return you have given it right back. You have always had open hearts, and I know you hear us. Hillary, you keep reaching for the White House, and if you keep pulling us up with you to the top, we'll keep reaching with you and Bill. Hillary, we may not have all the riches America has to offer, but WE ARE THE HEART AND SOLE OF AMERICA. WE ARE THE TRUE SPIRIT OF AMERICA, AND WE WANT HILLARY CLINTON FOR OUR PRESIDENT.

Posted by: Thank you Hillary for not giving up! | May 9, 2008 1:43 AM | Report abuse

If Hillary runs as an independent candidate all you Obamites just might wish you had been a little more civil. She has a good chance to win the required 180 electoral votes, even if she does not do that, she will ensure the "Cardboard Messiah" won't get more than 100. "What can happen will" Pete Gent.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 1:22 AM | Report abuse

I agree wholeheartedly. Ron Paul is the best choice.

And Jonathan, I agree about Hillary being quite a loathsome woman. Obama is a lot more likable but not much better. McCain is horrible as well. (but again, he is likeable)

Posted by: Samuel H | May 9, 2008 1:16 AM | Report abuse

To be honest I don't like Obama (he's borderline communist), but I despise Hillary. She is soooo unlikable. I want to see her lose just to see her lose.

That being said....

RON PAUL 2008

Posted by: JonathanS | May 9, 2008 1:07 AM | Report abuse

Aussie 2020,
You spent that amount of time typing out that post and it is the most useless post so far on this forum (and trust me, there are some really senseless ones here) You ask how Obama can beat McCain in certain states if he couldn't beat Hillary? Well dim-wit, did you think about the opposite side of your equally dim-witted question? If Hillary, with her so-called experience, connections and whatever else she claims, is not able to beat a "rookie" like Obama, how is she going to survive the political machine that is the republicans? You know, I used to feel really bad when Clinton's supporters are described by the media as less educated or less intelligent...well, after reading most of the posts here, damn!! The media got it right for once. I marvel at how strongly they argue that Obama decided that the votes in Michigan and Florida should not be counted and that the black people are the reason Obama is winning (of course anybody who had had a little bit of education will know that blacks are less than 15% of the whole American population!! I'm sure they read that Obama got 90% of the black vote and go "there, they made him win!" The math might get too complicated for you so I'll leave it but really 90% of less than 15%????). I think what really scares them is that it's not just blacks that are voting for Obama. If it was, this contest would've ended a few weeks after it started. That's what really scares you isn't it??

Oh and that issue about him not being patriotic, I give up. I don't know how many Clinton supporters I have tried *sigh* to educate on the fact that you (as a civilian) are NOT required to put your hand on your chest when the national anthem is being sung. You only do that when the PLEDGE is being recited.

Lastly, those of you whining about voting for McCain if Clinton is not the nominee...please go ahead!! It's called cutting your nose to spite your face. Obama is just one man. You do that and he loses the election, he goes back to being a senator or whatever else he was doing before, you gloat, feel good about yourself and say smugly "I told you so." And then you'll go back to posting on forums complaining about being laid off, your jobs being taken to China, India or wherever, your social security payments not arriving on time or the immigrants coming in and taking your jobs. The economy will continue getting worse, the dollar will practically be valueless, America (once the greatest nation in the world and a super power) will continue to be the laughing stock of the rest of the world, our children will continue to die in a foreign land in the name of war, hey, everything thing will be the same as it is now, because "Bush" will still be in power.

But of course, this would be your life as you knew it before this whole Democratic primary thingy. Nothing changes.

Truely, madly, deeply.....please just get over your ignorant, bigoted selves.

Posted by: getoveryourself | May 9, 2008 12:59 AM | Report abuse

The Larry Sinclair vs Obama story will soon hit the big news and it will stop Obama in his tracks! Obama can't handle the truth! Hillary can!

Posted by: Bill | May 9, 2008 12:50 AM | Report abuse

The country has had enought of Bush/Clinton.

Posted by: Mr. Google | May 9, 2008 12:48 AM | Report abuse

She has no end game and hasn't had for about 8 weeks. For that long it has been apparent she could not catch him in elected delegates and could not catch him in popular vote and that the superdelegates would thus never pick her. She has been trashing Obama in an attempt to destroy his chances in the fall and in hopes of running in 2012 vs either an even more aged Grandpa McCain or else a non-incumbent Republican. She is a lot of things, but not stupid. Talk of some "end game" like she could win in 2008 is just that -- stupid.

Posted by: Dolph T | May 9, 2008 12:41 AM | Report abuse

politics and elections are as real as the phoney reality programs on tv. all is controlled and scripted. the candidates are owned. the foolish voters pretend to have choices. by ignorantly participating in this nonsense democrats and republicans are the most dangerous people on earth.

Posted by: charles king | May 9, 2008 12:33 AM | Report abuse

Why does Hillary think it is her right if she can't win it?

And experience means nothing. Some of the worst Presidents had a lot of political experience. Obama has almost the exact same experience as Abe Lincoln. Other Presidents concidered inexperienced... Teddy, JFK... some of the Greatest Presidents didn't have much experienced in Washington. The first few Presidents didn't have a lot of Government experience to rely on.

And Aussie is a liar. If you actually research you will find a lot of those "evil" countries that you say prefer Obama is wrong, most actually prefer Clinton or McCain, and most of our allies in Europe and Africa and South America love Obama. China and Mexico prefer McCain. As far as Hammas, they are publically saying they prefer Obama because they want McCain to win. What greater recruitment tool then an old white war nut who says he will be keep Christian military in Islamic lands for 1000 years. The terrorist's best friend is John McCain. With McCain as President the terrorist groups will never be short of volunteers or donations.

Posted by: bab | May 9, 2008 12:28 AM | Report abuse

actually she is trying to ensure a McCain victory so she can say,"I told you so". and she thinks that will give her a lock on the 2012 nomination. Everyone will forgive her enough by then and those silly African Americans will learn to stay in their place and who else will they vote for? ain't like they will be voting Republican. It is interesting to learn that the Democrats have more racists then the Republicans, they have just been hiding better all these years. If the party of Lincoln could find inroads into that demographic, because of the Clintons, the Democrats would never win another national election.

Posted by: wally | May 9, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Someone said (of course a Obama worshipper!!)
Clinton can't win. It's just not possible. She won't win the popular vote, she won't win the delegate count, and the superdelegates would never flout the will of the electorate by voting against the nominee who won the most votes.

Hillary has won the popular vote in the large swing state. If Obama cannot even beat Hillary in these swing states, how can he beat McCain? He cannot. Just like Kerry losing, Obama will lose and the DNC, Obama nad Howard Dean will be the laughing STOCK of not only the USA, but also the WORLD!! Yes, the world!! The world will say how stupid the DNC, Howard Dean and Obama are to think you can put up an unqualified and inexperienced candidate forward, who is in the pockets of the special interests groups which are supporting him time and who are shaking in their boots that Hillary Clinton will get the nomination and their influence over the DNC leadership will be gone!! They knew with Bill Clinton that Bill cared more about the American People like JFK, and they needed to convince Democrats to vote against Bill (and Hillary) Universal Health Care plan. They were able to to beat Bill (and Hillary) once, but are shaking in their boots that Hillary (and Bill) will win this time. Hence the millions of dollars pouring into support Obama's campaign. Do you not think Obama is not in their debt. He will have to pander to those special interests groups which have filled his campaign coffers. On the other hand Hillary (and Bill) are spending their own money, like Ross Perot!! So all of those Ross Perot voters are also supporting Hillary, but absolutely NOT Obama. IF Obama gets the nomination, the Ross and Hillary supporters vote for McCain, as he is light years more qualified then Obama. McCain has paid his dues by fighting in Vietnam, serving as a prison of war and also a many term senator, who has lead by example!! Not calls for change, but then when Michigan and Florida also advocate charge and put their change into actions, Obama, the DNC and Howard Dean disenfranchise the voters of Michigan and Florida. Did McCain and Hillary come out to disenfranchise the voters of Michigan and Florida? No. They both are defenders of democracy, while Obama, Howard Dean and the DNC are supporters of the OLD BOYS Network, which by the way, excludes woman. Obama would never work for a women, He it too elitist. He has shown his colors and loyalties. And they are not the American working class. He does not represent Joe and Jane American. He represents the special interests groups which have filled his campaign coffers.


Clinton is tenacious and resourceful, but she just can't win this race and it's painful for many Democrats to witness the depths to which she is sinking.

She is the only person who can possibly compete with McCain. McCain respects Hillary for her contributions to America. Obama is all talk, but has not walked the walk. McCain served honorably and respectfully in Vietnam. He was a prisoner of war. What qualifications does Obama have to serve as the Commander of Chief during a way. He is even less experienced than President Bush, who served in the Texas National Guard. And we have seen how bad it has been. Just imagine how bad it will be with a totally inexperience Obama as Commander in Chief. Total chaos. Do we really want Obama to be Commander in Chief of the American military. NO WAY JOSE. We want battle tested McCain or Hillary. Hillary (and Bill) have been to hell and back. Obama has only been to the Hyatt. He is elitist. He will think nothing of sending your sons (AND DAUGHTERS) to war, since he has never experienced it. He has not see his buddies die like McCain. He has not been a prisoner of war like McCain has. Anyone who votes for Obama over McCain has not respect for the American Military and the sacrifices and experience that one gets by serving your country in a war. Obama is still wet behind the ears. It is the reason Hamas, Iran, North Korea, and Mainland Communist China are all Pro-Obama. Not because he is for them, but because he is so inexperienced. Do you put an inexperience general against war experienced generals and leaders? Of course not. You put a veteran if you have a chance. So those who think Obama has a chance over McCain are living in fantasy land. God save America if Obama ends up being Commander in Chief in our military. IF he wants this job, he should have AT LEAST joined the National Guard like President Bush. Much better to have served like McCain.

Her comments about capturing the white vote and the non-college educated vote are indicative of two things: she's attached to any shred of pollster-driven analysis that would indicate she still has a chance, and she's losing sight of the bigger picture.

The truth hurts Obama. He is getting the YUPPIES and black vote (over 90 percent voting for Obama). This has never happened in our history, where a candidate was getting so many votes because of his color. In states with a large black population Obama has won. This is clear if 90+ percent of them will run. Also the young Yuppies who never experience hardship, war, ... of course they want Obama. They have been spoiled rotten and are the ones who are responsible for Enron's collapse, insider stock trading, real estate speculation, outsourcing jobs to India (Indian Yuppies in the USA), to China (Chinese Yuppies in the USA),..
The hard working middle class, who has made America what it is, are voting for Hillary (or McCain) since they can relate to both of them. They are not Harvard MBA and lawyers, spoiled rotten. These are the same groups of people who are responsible for Enron's collapse. Probably some of Obama's classmates! I for one am sick of these spoiled brats. They are the one trying to get the tax payers to bail them out now for their speculation land deals, ... Foreclosure on hard working Americans, buy the land cheap and then have large rents. They are the same one trying to get rid of rent control in California like they did in Massachusetts (a strong DNC state). In Massachusetts after they got rid of rent control, the rents doubled very quickly. These are Obama's friends and supporters.

Enough with the sniping and bare-knuckle fighting. Clinton is embarrassing her supporters, dragging this campaign into the mud, and prolonging the inevitable.

Hillary is American true and true. She has my vote. McCain or Hillary. There is no viable alternative. So if Obama does manage to steal the nomination from Hillary and disenfranchise the millions of voters from Michigan and Florida, then McCain has my vote, and Hillary in 4 years!! After Obama gets blasted by McCain, Hillary will get the nomination in 4 years. She has the patience and experience which Obama will never get and have. That is one of the reasons why I and many others could NEVER vote for him. He is unwilling to pay his dues. He says that is too old fashioned. He thinks he can jump over the infinitely more qualified and experienced Hillary and McCain. He many be able to hoodwink the Democrats in the states he has won, but he will never be able to Hoodwink the American people. We see him for what he is. A young Yuppie unwilling to pay his dues and who has not respect for the Middle class of American immigrants, first and second generation from Asia, Mexico, Latin America and South America. Hillary and McCain represent these people, as did Ross Perot!! Obama, the black (over 90+ percent support) and the Yuppies. They are not representative of American and they are not the ONES who have made America the Great Country which IT IS. Obama's change? NO THANKS. America is not broken. We need some small tweeks, and the experienced Hillary and McCain are the Natural Born LEADERS, to lead America. One will be the next President of the USA.

Posted by: Aussie2020 | May 9, 2008 12:12 AM | Report abuse

this whole comment thing is a blizzard of SH*T!!!!!!!

Posted by: freed | May 9, 2008 12:12 AM | Report abuse

Debts to Mark Penn should be $10 Mil.

Posted by: BrianMD | May 8, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse

It's important that BO does not settle with this woman. Stay respectful to Hillary publicly but do not settle anything with regards to MI/FL and especially her reckless debts including the $10 to Mark Penn. Just sit back and watch a historical figure becoming a hysterical figure on TV.

Posted by: BrianMD | May 8, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

It is now time for Bastille day in America.
Whats is needed is revolution.
Those that no longer have the courage of the changing on the guard ,no longer merit being called American.
the forefathers founded America on revolution . Those that cannot stomach revolution no longer merit the gifts of the forefathers.
America political parties both Dems and Repubs are one and the same.

Freedom gone,war without end killing over 1 million innocent IRaqi people.
ground water in America ontaminated,economy on skid row and falling like a stone cast upon the sea.
Lard arse Americans while the world starves is over now soon the US govt. will
put you all on a diet.
FDA,EPA, and all the other hundreds of alphabet soup agencies corrupt .Justice now just a game
America is finished unless you have the courage of the changing of the guard.
If you vote democrat or republican you are a traitor to the founding father's gift to you.
How do you get through to a society so dumbed down that they all have glazed eyes and wear silly grins.where the truth is so inconvenient it is like a slap in the face.
America is over they have destroyed it.
resources gone, water contaminated and those 1200 nukes they exploded in America still retarding the population to this day.
What is left are lies to hold it together
the truth can not be let out.
A society living a lie until they die

Posted by: David Stanley | May 8, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

The Case Against Hillary Clinton
WHY ON EARTH WOULD WE CHOOSE TO PUT THE CLINTON FAMILY DRAMA AT THE CENTER OF OUR POLITICS AGAIN?
By Christopher Hitchens


Hillary Clinton
Seeing the name Hillary in a headline last week--a headline about a life that had involved real achievement--I felt a mouse stirring in the attic of my memory. Eventually, I was able to recall how the two Hillarys had once been mentionable in the same breath. On a first-lady goodwill tour of Asia in April 1995--the kind of banal trip that she now claims as part of her foreign-policy "experience"--Mrs. Clinton had been in Nepal and been briefly introduced to the late Sir Edmund Hillary, conqueror of Mount Everest. Ever ready to milk the moment, she announced that her mother had actually named her for this famous and intrepid explorer. The claim "worked" well enough to be repeated at other stops and even showed up in Bill Clinton's memoirs almost a decade later, as one more instance of the gutsy tradition that undergirds the junior senator from New York.
Sen. Clinton was born in 1947, and Sir Edmund Hillary and his partner Tenzing Norgay did not ascend Mount Everest until 1953, so the story was self-evidently untrue and eventually yielded to fact-checking. Indeed, a spokeswoman for Sen. Clinton named Jennifer Hanley phrased it like this in a statement in October 2006, conceding that the tale was untrue but nonetheless charming: "It was a sweet family story her mother shared to inspire greatness in her daughter, to great results I might add."
Perfect. It worked, in other words, having been coined long after Sir Edmund became a bankable celebrity, but now its usefulness is exhausted and its untruth can safely be blamed on Mummy. Yet isn't it all--all of it, every single episode and detail of the Clinton saga--exactly like that? And isn't some of it a little bit more serious? For Sen. Clinton, something is true if it validates the myth of her striving and her "greatness" (her overweening ambition in other words) and only ceases to be true when it no longer serves that limitless purpose. And we are all supposed to applaud the skill and the bare-faced bravado with which this is done. In the New Hampshire primary in 1992, she knowingly lied about her husband's uncontainable sex life and put him eternally in her debt. This is now thought of, and referred to in print, purely as a smart move on her part. In the Iowa caucuses of 2008, he returns the favor by telling a huge lie about his own record on the war in Iraq, falsely asserting that he was opposed to the intervention from the very start. This is thought of, and referred to in print, as purely a tactical mistake on his part: trying too hard to help the spouse. The happy couple has now united on an equally mendacious account of what they thought about Iraq and when they thought it. What would it take to break this cheap little spell and make us wake up and inquire what on earth we are doing when we make the Clinton family drama--yet again--a central part of our own politics?

What do you have to forget or overlook in order to desire that this dysfunctional clan once more occupies the White House and is again in a position to rent the Lincoln Bedroom to campaign donors and to employ the Oval Office as a massage parlor? You have to be able to forget, first, what happened to those who complained, or who told the truth, last time. It's often said, by people trying to show how grown-up and unshocked they are, that all Clinton did to get himself impeached was lie about sex. That's not really true. What he actually lied about, in the perjury that also got him disbarred, was the women. And what this involved was a steady campaign of defamation, backed up by private dicks (you should excuse the expression) and salaried government employees, against women who I believe were telling the truth. In my opinion, Gennifer Flowers was telling the truth; so was Monica Lewinsky, and so was Kathleen Willey, and so, lest we forget, was Juanita Broaddrick, the woman who says she was raped by Bill Clinton. (For the full background on this, see the chapter "Is There a Rapist in the Oval Office?" in the paperback version of my book No One Left To Lie To. This essay, I may modestly say, has never been challenged by anybody in the fabled Clinton "rapid response" team.) Yet one constantly reads that both Clintons, including the female who helped intensify the slanders against her mistreated sisters, are excellent on women's "issues."
One also hears a great deal about how this awful joint tenure of the executive mansion was a good thing in that it conferred "experience" on the despised and much-deceived wife. Well, the main "experience" involved the comprehensive fouling-up of the nation's health-care arrangements, so as to make them considerably worse than they had been before and to create an opening for the worst-of-all-worlds option of the so-called HMO, combining as it did the maximum of capitalist gouging with the maximum of socialistic bureaucracy. This abysmal outcome, forgiven for no reason that I can perceive, was the individual responsibility of the woman who now seems to think it entitles her to the presidency. But there was another "experience," this time a collaborative one, that is even more significant.
During the Senate debate on the intervention in Iraq, Sen. Clinton made considerable use of her background and "experience" to argue that, yes, Saddam Hussein was indeed a threat. She did not argue so much from the position adopted by the Bush administration as she emphasized the stand taken, by both her husband and Al Gore, when they were in office, to the effect that another and final confrontation with the Baathist regime was more or less inevitable. Now, it does not especially matter whether you agree or agreed with her about this (as I, for once, do and did). What does matter is that she has since altered her position and attempted, with her husband's help, to make people forget that she ever held it. And this, on a grave matter of national honor and security, merely to influence her short-term standing in the Iowa caucuses. Surely that on its own should be sufficient to disqualify her from consideration? Indifferent to truth, willing to use police-state tactics and vulgar libels against inconvenient witnesses, hopeless on health care, and flippant and fast and loose with national security: The case against Hillary Clinton for president is open-and-shut. Of course, against all these considerations you might prefer the newly fashionable and more media-weighty notion that if you don't show her enough appreciation, and after all she's done for us, she may cry.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

You try and destroy Senator Obama but no one is talking about this and hundreds of other situations like this involving The Clintons.


Edgar and Vonna Jo Gregory pardons
In March 2000, Bill Clinton pardoned Edgar and Vonna Jo Gregory, owners of the carnival company United Shows International, for charges of bank fraud from a 1982 conviction (the couple were already out of jail, but the prior conviction prevented them from doing business transactions in certain states).

First Lady Hillary Clinton's youngest brother, Tony Rodham, was an acquaintance of the Gregorys, and had lobbied Clinton on their behalf.[11] In October 2006, the group Judicial Watch filed a request with the U.S. Justice Department for an investigation, alleging that Rodham had received $107,000 from the Gregorys for the pardons, in the form of loans that were never repaid, as part of a quid pro quo scheme.[12]

On August 11, 1999, Clinton commuted the sentences of 16 members of FALN, a violent Puerto Rican nationalist group that set off 120 bombs in the United States mostly in New York City and Chicago, convicted for conspiracies to commit robbery, bomb-making, and sedition, as well as for firearms and explosives violations.[3] None of the 16 were convicted of bombings or any crime which injured another person, though they were sentenced with terms ranging from 35 to 105 years in prison for the conviction of conspiracy and sedition. Congress, however, recognizes that the FALN is responsible for "6 deaths and the permanent maiming of dozens of others, including law enforcement officials." All of the 16 had served 19 years or longer in prison, which was a longer sentence than such crimes typically received, according to the White House.[4] Clinton offered clemency, on condition that the prisoners renounce violence, at the appeal of 10 Nobel Peace Prize laureates, President Jimmy Carter, the cardinal of New York, and the archbishop of Puerto Rico. The commutation was opposed by U.S. Attorney's Office, the FBI, and the Federal Bureau of Prisons and criticized by many including former victims of FALN terrorist activities, the Fraternal Order of Police,[5] members of Congress. Hillary Clinton, then campaigning for her first term in the Senate, initially supported the commutation,[6] but later withdrew her support when the prisoners had refused to renounce violence more than three weeks after clemency was offered.[7] Congress condemned the action, with a vote of 95-2 in the Senate and 311-41 in the House.[8][9] The U.S. House Committee on Government Reform held an investigation on the matter, but the Justice Department prevented FBI officials from testifying.[10] President Clinton cited executive privilege for his refusal to turn over some documents to Congress related to his decision to offer clemency to members of the FALN terrorist group.


Posted by: Mae | May 8, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Thor-FYI;

The Banking deregulation the Clinton's pulled with Timothy Guinthner, and the Wall Street Bankers in 1998-9, is WHY we have the problems blowing up now!

Everyone has been so distrcted by what the MSM was feeding us, we only found out by asking the people in the streets what happened!

Posted by: RAT-The | May 8, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

the "president" is a shill

ever since Truman (a Marxist commie lover) the power to control the levers of "national security" has rested quietly in the office of the V.P.

the deal is this -- the Marxist bankers "finance" the elections of the "candidates," in exchange for which they (the bankers!) get to nominate the V.P., by unseen action from a back room. as an institution, the vice-presidency controls the Pentagon, which runs the PsyOps operations which perpetuates the state of crisis, and the emergency powers of the candidate president. (the grant of powers to the V.P., whereby its office controls the "Military- Industrial- Banking- Corporate- Congressional" Complex, e.g. the apparatus of "national security," was also unconstitutional.)

we are a constitutional republic. our President is supposed to be elected by electors, who we select, by name, and who we give time, money and powers to investigate and think about who would make a good leader. thus the investigations and dialogs of the college of electors supplants the tiring lies which "our" media feeds us.

when it comes to selection of a president, and senators, democracy is the enemy of a republic. it is the end of individual rights. Democracy is nothing other than a surrender -- of election making powers to information and PsyOps lies, which are fed to the mob of humanity, by our Marxist controlled Media.

when our electors, who we are supposed elect by name and local reputation, based on their integrity, their understanding of our Constitution, and their ability to think, investigate, dialog with fellow electors from other districts in a collegial way, and choose, are supplanted by compromised "media figureheads" who are controlled by a foreign power, which is hostile to (in fact, HATES) our Christian heritage and our constitution, who unlike our electors we do not even know their real names, or where they live, and who we do not in any way chose, and who irrespective of the volumes of multi-colored koolaid and bubblegum of lies that spews from their mouths we do not respect, we turn our backs on our Constitution and we lose.

It is not impossible that Joe Liebermann, the Senator from Tel Aviv, will be chosen by the bankers to be their V.P. candidate for both parties -- Obama (or Hillary) and McCain (or Paul). After bankrupting us, Israel's banker-owners will turn to its industrial darling, Communist China, to get their bread buttered. the Marxist bankers behind the Federal Reserve (which is a financially and politically impotent smoke screen for the member bankers who hide behind it) will get what they want -- the destruction of our constitution.

Posted by: V.P. | May 8, 2008 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Quoting anonymous:

"How did BIll and HILLARY'S term in office effect you??..WELL YOU LIVED IN THE TIME OF THE MOST ECONOMIC GROWTH THAN ANY PRESIDENCY OF THE HISTORY OF THE USA AND YOU LIVED WITH THE BIGGEST ECONOMIC GROWTH OF ANY PRESIDENCY IN THE USA."

The 1990s were a period of dishonest and irresponsible politics and business practices that led to the economy tanking in 2000 and the domino effect that is still affecting the economy today. So yes, I would say that the Clinton years in the White House definitely made this country worse. He set the tone for this country by refusing to accept personal responsibility for his dishonest behavior. The funniest part of it all is that his lying, cheating, "blame-the-other-guy" behavior actually led to him being considered a martyr by left-elites when he finally was called upon to account.

Posted by: Thor | May 8, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Billary is simply Gaming at this Point. The Dimocrats are Stuck with "Barry". LOL! :-D

Now, Snake Oil Selling "Barry" is Slick, but not slick enough.

Between now and November, it is going to be a whole lot less about "Empty Suit", and a whole lot more about the Tailors;

Teddy Kennedy, Tom Daschle, John"Why the Long Face" Kerry, George Soros, Nancy"Never met a Farm subsidy I did not profit from" Pelosi, and more to be announced!

The DIMocrats picked a Slow Painful Poison! ;~)

Posted by: RAT-The | May 8, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Scott Farcus, being a Republican does not make you exempt from being a liberal. Sorry, but that's just the way the party is swinging. How else do you think McCain got chosen?
As for blaming those who voted for Bush for the country's problems, that's extraordinarily naive and a cop-out. We don't live in a monarchy. Bush is not all powerful. The two parties have had very nearly equal representation in congress over the last eight years.
It's "we the people" that need to change our behavior and attitudes, but then it's always easier to blame someone else for our problems.
Congratulations on your big salary, but please don't brag about it. It's not good manners.

Posted by: Thor | May 8, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Thanks to the blog for allowing us to post our thoughts.

just points:
1. Dean, Hillary, Obama only stand to lose if Michigan doesn't votes. It is a winner position to have a revote, as the principle of democracy is followed through.

2. Do something to prevent states leaders from ruining primaries in the future.

3. Stop blaming Hillary for Bill's mistakes.

4. Please recognize Bill's accomplishments.

5. Begin to accept Obama and if he wins the nomination without relying on a rules committee then we have to respect our fellow democratic brothers and sisters and act on faith that what they saw was reasonable enough to support.

6. While Obama is obviously flawed in his policies, it is more likely we can shape his presidency than McCain.

7. If dems go as they are now. Some of us are reconsidering our relationship not out of spite, whining or other, but out of bewilderment that we can't participate. That has never been the MO of the DNC before now.

Posted by: michigan demo | May 8, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

The Clinton's endgame is for the game to never end. She figures that if just keeps on playing, everyone including Senator Obama and Senator McCain will be so tired of and frustrated with her, that we will all just drop out and there will not even a need for a general election as she reclaims the White House.

Posted by: Caryl S. Foster | May 8, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

LOL! This Surf RAT says: Here Kitty Kitty!

Your my type! ;~)

"Barry" is their "Toking" Black Guy!

Sad part though, he "Sold Out".

Shame, this Country needs to Regulate and actually "Control" the Oxymoron "Controlled Substances".

There are MANY Reasons why it would be a better thing to do than support the American Bar Association.

Jobs and Taxes, immediately come to mind! ;~)

Posted by: RAT-The | May 8, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Pete, I wasn't using racism in reference to anything you posted. But if you read through some of these threads they are pretty naughty. So that was what I was directing the comment at. My mistake in addressing to you and then including other posters.

As to whining. I do tend to whine. But wow what a thing to whine about, the right to particpate in a democratic election. When that becomes whining be sure stamp your thumb print for Kodus or Kang (Simpson reference). So no I don't agree.

But you have a point, James Carvel makes it seem too simple. But you've got to see michigan for what it is. The City of Flint has 30% poverty level, we have our own mortgage crisis here, and like I said before people are going west for jobs, in Detroit it takes a hour to get an ambulance, and 911 doesn't route your call as they don't have enough public resources to answer every call and must try to screen out the crank calls. Sure these aren't my problems (I live in a suburb, have a job, a home and health insurance), but could you imagine the sense of pride people in these cities might feel if they could nominate their candidate? Besides, I'd stop whining and fall back in line like a good democrat, if we follow the principle of party. And by the way, if your state were shut out like this, I'd like to think the party would come up with a way to have the revote done. And I'd stand up with money to help you.

Finally given all of these problems, if a state deserved to vote, I would think it is this one.

Posted by: michigan demo | May 8, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Forget Rev Wright.

Somebody better check out Rod Parsley, McCain's 'Spiritual Adviser.

Rev Wright, compared to him, looks like "Little Orphan Annie." (See Video)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/08/rod-parsley-mccains-spiri_n_100819.html

Posted by: Lawd Ham Mercee | May 8, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Just team the both of them up:

Obama - Clinton 08

or the other way around, I don't care.

It's time to throw away the egos and get on with the REAL job of WINNING THIS ELECTION (rather than just the nomination) and guaranteeing we don't have another four years of the misery we so foolishly subjected ourselves to by electing Bush to the second term last election.

Posted by: Jeff S. | May 8, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

I think that change is the only constant thing in the world. The time has come for the dreams of great names like Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincolm., Martin Luther King Jnr ...etc to become real come novenmber 2008. Clinton is just fighting change, but change will have to run over her. Obama can walk the streets of baghdad unhurt, clinton cannot. Obama will receive the highest chance of a peacemaker in the world, clinton cannot. If Clinton has inner thoughts, she should have seen that a supernatural force is behind Obama. I would like her to care a little bit about her party, if anything strange makes obama to lose nomination, there will be a protest votes on Dems, the nation needs unity and peace now more than ever. It/'s to for the Clintons to bow our and receive a standing ovations for thier great contributions peacelimited@yahoo.com

Posted by: UD | May 8, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

go to youtube and search...
the video hillary doesnt want you to see.
do you actually think she cares for any of us. who is the real elitest....in the 8 years since they left the white house they accumulated over 108 million....shell say or manipulate anything to get in. what 30 years of experience does she have when she was a damn housewife....it can be any woman but not her. vote ron paul

Posted by: a lopez | May 8, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

So HRC "deserves the right to run in every state"? I wonder if she would've been so magnanimous to Obama if the tables had been turned on Super Tuesday. We wouldn't even be discussing this end-game nonsense.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Excuse me. I have no love for VIOLENT criminals.

Posted by: PhD student | May 8, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Mr Clinton's farewell was not the end of the story: BBC

As the outcry continues over pardons granted by Bill Clinton on his last day in office, BBC News Online provides a guide to the key players in the pardoner's tale:
The pardoner

Bill Clinton, universally hailed as the most brilliant American political operator of his generation, has spent nearly as much of his career in the public eye for bad reasons as for good. Some say that his need to remain centre stage at all costs is behind his seemingly inexplicable series of public relations blunders, while others argue that Mr Clinton has a naive streak that enables people to manipulate him.



He was busy negotiating his own immunity from prosecution in his final hours in the White House, which might have made it hard for him to concentrate on other matters - but his 11th-hour pardon of 140 people and the reduction in sentence of another 36 is unprecedented in modern political history, and Democrats and Republicans alike are demanding an explanation for some of them.

The pardoned

Marc Rich,

Marc Rich fled the US in 1983

the billionaire commodities trader, is said to have lobbied hard for his pardon via a network of high-powered associates in the US, Israel and Switzerland. Jewish and Israeli leaders put in good words on his behalf, and Mr Clinton defended his pardon partially on the grounds that Mr Rich's charitable contributions in the Middle East had aided the peace process. In 1983, the financier fled to Switzerland to avoid prosecution on 51 counts of tax evasion, fraud and violating a US trade embargo with Iran.

Carlos Vignali, 30, had his 15-year sentence for conspiracy to sell cocaine reduced to time served, and walked free on Mr Clinton's last day in office. His father, Horacio, is a rich and powerful leader in the Los Angeles Hispanic community who has made large donations to the Democratic party. A number of high-profile Los Angeles figures, including the archbishop, the man who is now sherrif and two current mayoral candidates appealed for clemency for Vignali, but several have now said they should not have done so.

Almon Glenn Braswell, a Miami-based businessman, was convicted in 1983 of fraud and perjury in connection with a mail-order treatment for baldness he sold. Federal prosecutors in Los Angeles, where his business is based, were stunned by the pardon because it could throw a spanner into the works of the current investigation of Braswell on new charges. Mr Clinton said he was not aware that Braswell was facing a new investigation, and that his pardon was only intended to apply to the 1983 conviction. Braswell's lawyers argue it applies to the present circumstances as well, but LA prosecutors say they will proceed with their investigation anyway.

Roger Clinton,

Roger Clinton has been arrested on new charges

the former president's younger half-brother, was pardoned for a 1985 cocaine-related offence. Roger Clinton pleaded guilty to the charge and served more than a year in prison. The presidential pardon erases his criminal record - but he was arrested and charged with drink driving in California a month after the pardon. He also faces a charge of disturbing the peace for allegedly challenging a nightclub doorman to a fight.

Other players

Senator Hillary Clinton,

Hillary Clinton is distancing herself from the pardons

the former president's wife, was elected to the Senate in November, making history as the first former First Lady to win national office. Widely assumed to have presidential ambitions of her own, Senator Clinton has worked to distance herself from her husband's problems, referring questions about pardons to "the president and his staff". Opinions are divided as to whether she is a victim of Bill Clinton's political and personal shenanigans or an essential part of them.
Hillary's brother Hugh Rodham has returned nearly $400,000 Tony has not returned the $125,000 that he got for getting a pardon for his "friends."


Posted by: Jonas | May 8, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

I know this has probably been brought up a million times, but it's not Howard Dean's fault that Michigan and Florida aren't counting. It is the state legislators in both those states. The rules were set before those two states set their primary calendar.

Florida needs to blame Governor Crist for their votes not counting. And it should be pointed out that Governor Crist, a Republican, is all too interested in seeing this controversy continue. He wants Hillary to be the candidate. Why? Because he wants to see a woman in the White House? Because he believes Hillary will be a great President? No. It's because he knows all the Republicans will come out to vote Hillary down. They hate her.

Posted by: Kent | May 8, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Susan,

I hear your pain. I'm not sure what the Dems stand for anymore either.

Perhaps we'll have to wait a few years for the smoke to clear to see what is transpiring. And may be becoming a Republican is a reasonable response provided it can be guided in a more sane direction.

Perhaps my final post so my concluding remarks.

1. Democracy requires consulation, without a MI and FL revote you don't have it. And yes, wouldn't it be great if the state leaders had left it alone. What excitement it would be now.

2. Clinton doesn't have to quit. She could run as an independent and possibly win. It would be a long shot but she'd have more impact than Perrot.

3. Only way to heal the party is to stand for the principles of the party. So have a vote in Michigan. Florida, they had a vote. Just count their ballots or revote.

4. If we go forward without MI and FL, and Barack loses, don't blame Hillary. If Barack goes ahead with his gambit and he loses both states then that is him. It was his decision. I don't see winning without these states in the general election.

5. Please tell CNN to start doing some real analysis. I'd love to consider how the primary turn out stands against past primaries and how that translated in a turnout for the general. It would be interesting to speculate about what states might go what ways with this data. Right now, it is a gloating Obamaican pundits talking about RULES.

Posted by: Michigan Demo | May 8, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

WRITE MR.HOWARD DEAN AND TELL HIM TO BE FAIR TO ALL AMERICANS AND COUNT ALL THE STATES VOTES NOT JUST THE ONES HE WANT TO PICK AND CHOOSE. IT IS NOT RIGHT TO PUNISH WHOLE STATES FULL OF PEOPLE FOR THE ACTIONS OF A FEW TO CHANGE THE DATES>>TELL HIM TO COUNT THE VOTES SINCE OBAMA WAS ON THE TICKET IN MICHIGAN AS HIS CHOICE IN THE UNCOMMITTED COLUMN>>HILLARY BEAT ALL THE UNCOMMITTED AND BOTH HILLARY AND Obama were on the ticket in FLorida ..so they must count the votes..or AT LEAST have a revote...If the do it over there is no reason to believe Obama will do any better since he has shown he can't win the big states not even in his own backyard!! EMAIL HOWARD DEAN TELL HIM TO COUNT THE VOTES!!deanh@dnc.org

Posted by: ByeObama | May 8, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Clinton has already made it clear what her endgame will be. She expects to run until there is a nominee and has clearly stated that she will do whatever she can to make sure that the Democratic nominee wins the election.
One would hope that the primaries will be completed before enough superdelegates endorse Obama to give him the nomination. She deserves the chance to run in every state, and the voters deserve to have their voices heard.
She has moved to have the Michigan and Florida delegates seated at the convention, and if party officials have the sense to allow this, they won't risk losing those states to the Republicans in November.
She is a smart, strong, and gracious woman who has been demonized by the press and villefied by many Obama supporters. She is committed to winning back the White House for the Democrats, and I do not believe that Obama has any chance of winning without her strong support.

Posted by: Carol | May 8, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

michigan demo,

It's only whining when you complain about mistakes made by your own state leaders and then blame Obama and claim that HE should be the one to foot the bill, along with HRC. Now, in the first place, Hillary with her $10 million in debt campaign is the last person you're going to get to pay for this. As for Obama, even though his campaign has been very well financially supported by the people that support him, who is to say that he should have to foot the bill, assuming he even could afford to do so (I'm not so sure he has enough spare money to run a campaign AND finance a re-vote). I, for one, as someone who donated to his campaign, would not be pleased if the money I donated was forced to be used for the re-vote. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a viable solution that allows everyone in Michigan to vote. But it's completely unfair for Obama and his supporters to get stuck with the bill.

My overall point is just that the issue here is not as simple as "Obama is refusing to let me vote!!!" so please don't try and simplify it to that degree.

Also, when did racism ever come into this discussion? I know I never brought it up, I'm just trying to explain my views on why it's unfair to solely blame Obama for not allowing Hillary's demands of counting a vote that he was taken off the ballot for.

Posted by: Pete | May 8, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Where did the Clinton's get $11 million to "loan" to her campaign? They have been in public office for so many years that is is very suspect as to the source of their personal wealth.

Posted by: John Jones | May 8, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

U.S. Department of Justice


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Washington, D.C. 20530
January 20, 2001

Pardon Grants January 2001
Name Home Town Offenses
ALLEN, Verla Jean Everton, Arkansas False statements to agency of United States
ALTIERE, Nicholas M. Las Vegas, Nevada Importation of cocaine
ALTSCHUL, Bernice Ruth Sherman Village, California Conspiracy to commit money laundering
ANDERSON, Joe, Jr. Grove Hill, Alabama Income tax evasion
ANDERSON, William Sterling Spartanburg, South Carolina Conspiracy to defraud a federally insured financial institution, false statements to a federally insured financial institution, wire fraud
AZIZKHANI, Mansour T. Huntsville, Alabama Conspiracy and making false statements in bank loan applications
BABIN, Cleveland Victor, Jr. Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Conspiracy to commit offense against the United States by utilizing the U.S. mail in furtherance of a scheme to defraud
BAGLEY, Chris Harmon Harrah, Oklahoma Conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute cocaine
BANE, Scott Lynn Mahomet, Illinois Unlawful distribution of marijuana
BARBER, Thomas Cleveland Hampton, Florida Issuing worthless checks
BARGON, Peggy Ann Monticello, Illinois Violation of the Lacey Act, violation of the Bald Eagle Protection Act
BHATKA, Tansukhlal Income tax evasion
BLAMPIED, David Roscoe Ketchum, Idaho Conspiracy to distribute cocaine
BORDERS, William Arthur, Jr. Washington, D.C. Conspiracy to corruptly solicit and accept money in return for influencing the official acts of a federal district court judge (Alcee L. Hastings), and to defraud the United States in connection with the performance of lawful government functions; corruptly influencing, obstructing, impeding and endeavoring to influence, obstruct and impede the due administration of justice, and aiding and abetting therein; traveling interstate with intent to commit bribery
BOREL, Arthur David Little Rock, Arkansas Odometer rollback
BOREL, Douglas Charles Conway, Arkansas Odometer rollback
BRABHAM, George Thomas Austin, Texas Making a false statement or report to a federally insured bank
BRASWELL, Almon Glenn Doravilla, Georgia Conspiracy to defraud government with respect to claims; perjury
BROWDER, Leonard Aiken, South Carolina Illegal dispensing of controlled substance and Medicaid fraud
BROWN, David Steven New York, New York Securities fraud and mail fraud
BURLESON, Delores Caroylene, aka Delores Cox Burleson Hanna, Oklahoma Possession of marijuana
BUSTAMANTE, John H. Cleveland, Ohio Wire fraud
CAMPBELL, Mary Louise Ruleville, Mississippi Aiding and abetting the unauthorized use and transfer of food stamps
CANDELARIA, Eloida False information in registering to vote
CAPILI, Dennis Sobrevinas Glendale, California Filing false statements in alien registration
CHAMBERS, Donna Denise Memphis, Tennessee Conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute and to distribute cocaine, possession with intent to distribute cocaine, use of a telephone to facilitate cocaine conspiracy
CHAPMAN, Douglas Eugene Scott, Arkansas Bank fraud
CHAPMAN, Ronald Keith Scott, Arkansas Bank fraud
CHAVEZ, Francisco Larios Santa Ana, California Aiding and abetting illegal entry of aliens
CISNEROS, Henry G.
CLINTON, Roger
COHN, Stuart Harris New Haven, Connecticut 1. Illegal sale of gold options
2. Illegal sale of silver options

COOPER, David Marc Wapakoneta, Ohio Conspiracy to defraud the government
COX, Ernest Harley, Jr. Pine Bluff, Arkansas Conspiracy to defraud a federally insured savings and loan, misapplication of bank funds, false statements
CROSS, John F., Jr. Little Rock, Arkansas Embezzlement by a bank employee
CUNNINGHAM, Rickey Lee Amarillo, Texas Possession with intent to distribute marijuana
DE LABIO, Richard Anthony Baltimore, Maryland Mail fraud, aiding and abetting
DEUTCH, John Described in January 19, 2001 information
DOUGLAS, Richard False statements
DOWNE, Edward Reynolds Conspiracy to commit wire fraud and tax evasion; securities fraud
DUDLEY, Marvin Dean Omaha, Nebraska False statements
DUNCAN, Larry Lee Branson, Missouri Altering an automobile odometer
FAIN, Robert Clinton Aiding and assisting in the preparation of a false corporate tax return
FERNANDEZ, Marcos Arcenio Miami, Florida Conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute marijuana
FERROUILLET, Alvarez Interstate transport of stolen property, money laundering, false statements
FUGAZY, William Denis Harrison, New York Perjury in a bankruptcy proceeding
GEORGE, Lloyd Reid Mail fraud
GOLDSTEIN, Louis Las Vegas, Nevada Possession of goods stolen from interstate shipment
GORDON, Rubye Lee Tampa, Florida Forgery of U.S. Treasury checks
GREEN, Pincus Switzerland
HAMNER, Robert Ivey Searcy, Arkansas Conspiracy to distribute marijuana, possession of marijuana with intent to distribute
HANDLEY, Samuel Price Hodgenville, Kentucky Conspiracy to steal government property
HANDLEY, Woodie Randolph Hodgenville, Kentucky Conspiracy to steal government property
HARMON, Jay Houston Jonesboro, Arkansas 1. Conspiracy to import marijuana, conspiracy to possess marijuana with intent to distribute, importation of marijuana, possession of marijuana with intent to distribute

2. Conspiracy to import cocaine

HEMMINGSON, John Interstate transport of stolen property, money laundering
HERDLINGER, David S. St. Simons Island, Georgia Mail fraud
HUCKLEBERRY, Debi Rae Ogden, Utah Distribution of methamphetamine
JAMES, Donald Ray Fairfield Bay, Arkansas Mail fraud, wire fraud, and false statement to a bank to influence credit approval
JOBE, Stanley Pruet El Paso, Texas Conspiracy to commit bank fraud, and bank fraud
JOHNSON, Ruben H. Austin, Texas Theft and misapplication of bank funds by a bank officer or director
JONES, Linda Conspiracy to commit bank fraud and other offenses against the United States
LAKE, James Howard Illegal corporate campaign contributions, wire fraud
LEWIS, June Louise Lowellville, Ohio Embezzlement by a bank employee
LEWIS, Salim Bonnor Short Hills, New Jersey Securities fraud, record keeping violations, margin violations
LODWICK, John Leighton Excelsior Springs, Missouri Income tax evasion
LOPEZ, Hildebrando San Isidro, Texas Distribution of cocaine
LUACES, Jose Julio Ft. Lauderdale, Florida Possession of an unregistered firearm
MANESS, James Timothy Conspiracy to distribute a controlled substance
MANNING, James Lowell Little Rock, Arkansas Aiding and assisting in the preparation of a false corporate tax return
MARTIN, John Robert Gulf Breeze, Florida Income tax evasion
MARTINEZ, Frank Ayala Elgin, Texas Conspiracy to supply false documents to the Immigration and Naturalization Service
MARTINEZ, Silvia Leticia Beltran Elgin, Texas Conspiracy to supply false documents to the Immigration and Naturalization Service
McCORMICK, John Francis Dedham, Massachusetts Racketeering conspiracy, racketeering, and violation of the Hobbs act
McDOUGAL, Susan H.
MECHANIC, Howard Lawrence 1. Violating the Civil Disobedience Act of 1968

2. Failure to appear

3. Making false statement in acquiring a passport

MITCHELL, Brook K., Sr. Conspiracy to illegally obtain USDA subsidy payments, false statements to USDA, and false entries on USDA forms
MORGAN, Charles Wilfred, III Little Rock, Arkansas Conspiracy to distribute cocaine
MORISON, Samuel Loring Crofton, Maryland Willful transmission of defense information, unauthorized possession and retention of defense information, theft of government property
NAZZARO, Richard Anthony Winchester, Massachusetts Perjury and conspiracy to commit mail fraud
NOSENKO, Charlene Ann Phoenix, Arizona Conspiracy to defraud the United States, and influencing or injuring an officer or juror generally
OBERMEIER, Vernon Raymond Belleville, Illinois Conspiracy to distribute cocaine, distribution of cocaine, and using a communications facility to facilitate distribution of cocaine
OGALDE, Miguelina Glendale, California Conspiracy to import cocaine
OWEN, David C. Olathe, Kansas Filing a false tax return
PALMER, Robert W. Little Rock, Arkansas Conspiracy to make false statements
PERHOSKY, Kelli Anne Bridgeville, Pennsylvania Conspiracy to commit mail fraud
PEZZOPANE, Richard H. Palo Heights, Illinois Conspiracy to commit racketeering, and mail fraud
PHILLIPS, Orville Rex Waco, Texas Unlawful structure of a financial transaction
POLING, Vinson Stewart, Jr. Baldwin, Maryland Making a false bank entry, and aiding and abetting
PROUSE, Norman Lyle Conyers, Georgia Operating or directing the operation of a common carrier while under the influence of alcohol
PRUITT, Willie H. H., Jr. Port Richey, Florida Absent without official leave
PURSLEY, Danny Martin, Sr. Goodlettsville, Tennessee Aiding and abetting the conduct of an illegal gambling business, and obstruction of state laws to facilitate illegal gambling
RAVENEL, Charles D. Charleston, South Carolina Conspiracy to defraud the United States
RAY, William Clyde Altus, Oklahoma Fraud using a telephone
REGALADO, Alfredo Luna Pharr, Texas Failure to report the transportation of currency in excess of $10,000 into the United States
RICAFORT, Ildefonso Reynes Houston, Texas Submission of false claims to Veterans Administration
RICH, Marc Switzerland
RIDDLE, Howard Winfield Mt. Crested Butte, Colorado Violation of the Lacey Act (receipt of illegally imported animal skins)
RILEY, Richard Wilson, Jr. Possession of cocaine with intent to distribute
ROBBINS, Samuel Lee Cedar Park, Texas Misprision of a felony
RODRIGUEZ, Joel Gonzales Houston, Texas Theft of mail by a postal employee
ROGERS, Michael James McAllen, Texas Conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute marijuana
ROSS, Anna Louise Lubbock, Texas Distribution of cocaine
RUST, Gerald Glen Avery, Texas False declarations before grand jury
RUST, Jerri Ann Avery, Texas False declarations before grand jury
RUTHERFORD, Bettye June Albuquerque, New Mexico Possession of marijuana with intent to distribute
SANDS, Gregory Lee Sioux Falls, South Dakota Conspiracy to distribute cocaine
SCHWIMMER, Adolph Conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, conspiracy to export arms and ammunition to a foreign country and related charges
SERETTI, Albert A., Jr. McKees Rocks, Pennyslvania Conspiracy and wire fraud
SHAW, Patricia Campbell Hearst Wilton, Connecticut Armed bank robbery and using a firearm during a felony
SMITH, Dennis Joseph Redby, Minnesota 1. Unauthorized absence

2. Failure to obey off-limits instructions

3. Unauthorized absence

SMITH, Gerald Owen Florence, Mississippi Armed bank robbery
SMITH, Stephen A.
SPEAKE, Jimmie Lee Breckenridge, Texas Conspiracy to possess and utter counterfeit $20 Federal Reserve notes
STEWART, Charles Bernard Sparta, Georgia Illegally destroying U.S. Mail
STEWART-ROLLINS, Marlena Francisca Euclid, Ohio Conspiracy to distribute cocaine
SYMINGTON, John Fife, III
TANNEHILL, Richard Lee Reno, Nevada Conspiracy and restraint of trade
TENAGLIA, Nicholas C. Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania Receipt of illegal payments under the Medicare program
THOMAS, Gary Allen Lancaster, Texas Theft of mail by postal employee
TODD, Larry Weldon Gardendale, Texas Conspiracy to commit an offense against the U.S. in violation of the Lacey Act and the Airborne Hunting Act
TREVINO, Olga C. Converse, Texas Misapplication by a bank employee
VAMVOUKLIS, Ignatious Exeter, New Hampshire Possession of cocaine
VAN DE WEERD, Patricia A. Tomahawk, Wisconsin Theft by a U.S. Postal employee
WADE, Christopher V.
WARMATH, Bill Wayne Walls, Mississippi Obstruction of correspondence
WATSON, Jack Kenneth Oakridge, Oregon Making false statements of material facts to the U.S. Forest Service
WEBB, Donna Lynn Panama City, Florida False entry in savings and loan record by employee
WELLS, Donald William Phenix City, Alabama Possession of an unregistered firearm
WENDT, Robert H. Kirkwood, Missouri Conspiracy to effectuate the escape of a federal prisoner
WILLIAMS, Jack L. Making false statements to federal agents
WILLIAMS, Kevin Arthur Omaha, Nebraska Conspiracy to distribute and possess with intent to distribute crack cocaine
WILLIAMS, Robert Michael Davison, Michigan Conspiracy to transport in foreign commerce securities obtained by fraud
WILSON, Jimmie Lee Helena, Arkansas Converting property mortgaged or pledged to a farm credit agency, and converting public money to personal use
WINGATE, Thelma Louise Sale City, Georgia Mail fraud
WOOD, Mitchell Couey Sherwood, Arkansas Conspiracy to possess and to distribute cocaine
WOOD, Warren Stannard Las Vegas, Nevada Conspiracy to defraud the United States by filing a false document with the Securities and Exchange Commission
WORTHEY, Dewey Conway, Arkansas Medicaid fraud
YALE, Rick Allen Belleville, Illinois Bank fraud
YASAK, Joseph A. Chicago, Illinois Knowingly making under oath a false declaration regarding a material fact before a grand jury
YINGLING, William Stanley Interstate transportation of stolen vehicle
YOUNG, Phillip David Little Rock, Arkansas Interstate transportation and sale of fish and wildlife

Posted by: Alexander Nevsky | May 8, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

IF PEOPLE WANT TO BE TRULY HONEST IF THEY WERE PART OF A STATE THAT SOMEONE DID SOMETHING (THAT THEY HAD NO CONTROL OF)that took away their right to vote and be heard..they would NOT be pointing to the fact that their state is just following the rules set forth by Democratic party.besides this practice is NOT A RULE it was a made up punishment to alter the outcome of Barack Hussein Obama...Most people would not just say ok take away my vote for what someone else did... they would be outraged and want their rights and vote to count.!THey are.not going to just justify the outlandish punish for the actions of a few....IF YOU ARE HONEST YOU KNOW THE ONLY WAY TO PROPERLY RUN THIS RACE IS TO INCLUDE ALL STATES>>ARE WE NOT AT WAR WITH OUR MEN DYING EVERYDAY TO GIVE THIS PRIVILEDGE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY >>BUT HERE WE DON"T PRACTICE DEMOCRACY???? IS THIS COUNTRY BECOMING A DICTATORSHIP???SURE starting to look that way???!!! I am not a MIchigan or Florida resident and I feel yes they need to have their rights honored over a over zealous Mr. Dean who wants to push a tainted candidate who he has to be a really ignorant person not to know Obama's tainted background and associations???MR. DEAN WHAT ARE YOU THINKING!!!???HILLARY 2008!!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Obama will never get my vote.

Hillary is the best choice!!!!!

Go HIllary we love you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Maca | May 8, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Sorry to disappoint you, but I am not a stripper, and my IQ is the envy of many a Mensa member. I have an Ivy League education, and unlike many folks with said education, I have actually learned to think for myself. So, that being said, I am smart enough to see through the smoke (crack smoke, that is) and mirrors of Obama's lies. Thank you.

Posted by: Kitty | May 8, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Reading through some of these comments, I once again become a cynic; I once again take notice of how many people transcend politics and transform the entire nominating/election process into an E! cover story. The Democratic nominating process has degraded to millions of supporters chanting the same textbook arguments, those same arguments emailed by Obama and Clinton daily. Supporters go around dropping seemingly knowledgeable information on the race, when they truly have no foundational information on the topics. The race gives off an aura more reminiscent of a superbowl than something as important as our Country's leadership. Truth be told, although a naive, hopeful self would say that all adults should be involved in politics, that's simply not true. If you do not understand the issues at hand, if you do not legitimately have a non lay perspective on the matter, then stop approaching politics like it's a superbowl.
For example, lets take health care. All though Hillary and Obama have somewhat debated on their respective plans, both are overwhelmingly "universal" health care plans. They both have said they want to offer the plan given to congressman to all Americans. Yet no one has come to question the economics on either of these plans thoroughly. Both plans are centered on a "medicare type D" style plan that includes more normal costs, such as emergency room visits, doctor visits, pharmaceuticals, but excludes catastrophic coverage such as expensive surgery. All be told, such coverage is what is best in an "economic utility" model, for our utility is highest when insurance is applied to such costs. Yes, to most it may seem counterintuitive, but that is how insurance should be applied when purchased. Though most Americans see insurance as an investment, that is a mistake, a mistake professionals in health economics acknowledge. Yet no one has questioned Obama and Clinton on these facts. Voters just go around saying "Clinton's health care is better" or "Obama has a superior health care plan because it has no mandate," but economically, both of these plans are inefficient.
At the end of what is now a rant, I want people to simply understand my point; don't go around arguing about topics which you have no understanding of. It doesn't help the process one bit. Reading through many of these posts, it became clear that people unquestionably post content that most of the time is simply inaccurate. Stick to topics you understand. Thanks

P.S.- This is by no means knocking all comments, for I have not read them, and if you made a valid political point, then good for you. This extends to the obviously ignorant political commentary commonly present on such blogs. Not all are meant to be politicians, and not even all are meant to discuss politics. Therefore post about things you know, not the tagline party mantra you heard on late night television.

Posted by: Nikolay | May 8, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

"Obama is gay. Obama smokes crack. Do your research...If he won we'd be hearing about the male interns who visit him, oy vey. Terrible. I DO care that he smokes crack. This is not a quality I look for in a leader. We're screwed if he wins."

Wow. There's some really deep thinking going on in the old comments section tonight.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Can you imagine what it will look like in White House if the Nobamas in Bhite House!
Disgusting@

Posted by: Jesse | May 8, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

It amazes me how people can delude themselves so much, I guess the Obama thing really is a cult. Obama has no chance, neither does Hillary. They are both too extreme. And the Republicans are running a war hero moderate. DUHHHHHHH, do the math!

Posted by: Mike | May 8, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

"Scott Farcus, yeah you latte liberal idiot, I'll take credit for no terrorist attacks since 9/11/2001 on US soil."

Actually, I'm a Republican who incensed at my party for their "Borrow and Spend" approach to the last 8 years. We used to be the party of fiscal conservatism. Now we spend worse than the Democrats.

By the way, I make over $500K a year (give or take $50K), so the high price of gas, food, and health care won't bother me a bit. When gas hits $5 a gallon, and you can't afford meat anymore, let me know what you think about George W's policies then.

Have a nice day.

Posted by: Scott Farcus | May 8, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

I considered each candidate's position on the issues of relevance to me. When you go to their websites, each issue is addressed individually. I believe that Hillary has a more detailed explanation for each issue. I also agree with her position on the issues.
Conversely, Obama speaks too generally and is scaring me with some of his comments on sentencing laws and policies. I have NO love for criminals.
Hillary had my vote on Tuesday in Indiana and she will have my vote for the general election.

Posted by: PhD student | May 8, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

I disagree that Democarcy is representation as in the "I" posting.

Iraq had votes. People cut their thumbs and stamped their print on ballots for Hussein. Well they voted, but not in any meaningful way.

Giving me representation without consultation isn't democracy any more than what Iraq had. So no, I don't agree.

As to all of this name calling. Please elevate it.

We need to know if we live in the US, we need to know what this party is about. Does the democratic party believe in the principles of democracy any longer or is it just a bunch of elites trying to get their turn at the punch bowl.

This is very disturbing.

Posted by: michigan demo | May 8, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

I am dumbfounded by the lack of understanding of Obama and his supporters.

I have voted Democrat as long as I could. I have worked in many campaigns. I have marched blacks. I have given all the money I could afford to elect Democrats.

I did this because I believed in the values that the Democrats stood for. None of which Obama stands for and instead there is this mad rush to coronate the king and destroy someone else who has given her life to the party all in the name of change.

I think you will get change but be careful what you wish you for. I believe you are voting for a wolf in sheep's clothing and I believe he and his callous followers have caused a split so deep in the Democratic party that most of feel like we have no home anymore.

Obama will never be my president. I cannot vote for him not out of spite but out of deep deep concern for my country. We've had eight years of Bush, we can't handle more years worse than Bush!

I'll not step aside, however, until the last vote in Florida and Michigan are counted and until there is NO HOPE whatsoever for saving the party I love and have dedicated my life to.

When I step aside, millions will go with me and we will not be coming back. With tears in our eyes we will work to support McCain because a national hero can be trusted. A wolf in sheep's clothing with extreme leftist leanings cannot be trusted.

And if a lifelong Dem thinks like this, just imagine what the rest of the country is thinking? Obama might be able to buy this election. It all depends on how many people allow their vote to be bought.

My vote is not for sale. My heart hurts bad for this country and this party. It's not easy to leave but you leave me no choice.

Posted by: Susan | May 8, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

An Interview With Gennifer Flowers: On First Indiscretions
By J. Ryan Gilfoil | Wednesday, February 4, 1998

Editor's Note: This interview was conducted in June of 1995, following the publication of Ms. Flowers's book on her relationship with President Clinton and the ensuing public revelations.

Review: How was your affair with Bill Clinton made public?

Flowers: The story was made public through a lawsuit by Larry Nichols in Arkansas back during Bill's last gubernatorial election. Then Nichols put out a press release that listed five women, and my name was among them, and that's how it became public in the first place.

Review: Then reporters came digging?

Flowers: That was after he had decided to run for President. That's when it became national news. See, the local media didn't do much about it. They did a little fourth-of-a-column in the newspaper.

Review: Did they not print the full story because of Bill's power in the town?

Flowers: Definitely. Sure, sure it was.

Review: You released tape recorded telephone conversations between you and Bill Clinton in which he tells you to lie to reporters about your affair or to blame Republicans for starting these rumors. Could you elaborate on how Clinton instructed you to cover this up?

Flowers: That was his whole theory --if we stick together and deny it, everything will be okay. I was really more concerned about it than he was, but he just felt if everybody went on record denying it, he could keep the story covered up. Obviously it didn't work. I think it was because he felt so bulletproof in Arkansas and was able to cover up things, since he was the power over everything. He was surprised at the power of the national media, and how he wasn't ultimately able to cover things up like he had been before.

Review: Gary Johnson, your neighbor in the Quapaw Towers in Arkansas, said he had a videotape of Bill Clinton entering your apartment. He was beaten nearly to death, and the tape was allegedly stolen. Do you suspect that Bill Clinton might have been involved?

Flowers: I sure do. Gary Johnson let it be known that he had the videotape. I know he had the video camera mounted, and I know he had the opportunity. I find it very odd that all of the sudden two people come in and try to beat him to death when he lets it be known in town that he has the video. I think it's very likely that Bill's people had something to do with it. Who else would do it? Who else would want to kill the man for a videotape?

Review: You allege that Bill Clinton helped you secure a state job in Arkansas. How did he help you?

Flowers: He didn't help me. He got it. You can say 'help,' but he didn't ask 'please,' he got [me] the job. He called a guy named Don Barnes who was the head of the Board of Review agency for the state. Clinton had appointed Don Barnes to head that agency.

So Clinton had one of his people research what positions were available. And then he called Don Barnes when he found that one was available, and they had to go through some of the hiring process just to make it look like [normal hiring procedure].

Then they went through the interview process, and I got the job. There was a grievance filed by Charlette Perry, and she won the ruling of the ten people on the grievance committee. She was supposed to get my job, but Don Barnes had the veto power, so he just vetoed it. I called Bill and said, 'You know, I'm really concerned about the questions they were asking me about how I got the job.' He said, 'Well, don't worry about it. Barnes has the veto power, and he'll take care of it.' So that was it.

Review: Some of Clinton's state troopers verified that he had been to your apartment frequently. Has anyone else corroborated your story?

Flowers: My tapes are verification of a relationship, and they've been verified by one of the top labs in the country as never having been edited or tampered with in any way. Also, two L.A. Times reporters, in the course of their investigation of the trooper story, got Bill's phone records and tracked them back to me to 1977.

Review: What made you decide to be so forthright in describing in your book the intimate details of your sexual activities with Bill Clinton?

Flowers: You're much younger than I am. I'm a sexually liberated woman that earned that liberation. I am very proud of the fact that I feel comfortable in certain forums discussing sex. We had sex together, and I felt that to have left out the sexual nature of the relationship would have been pretty hypocritical. Going into detail about it was something that I tremendously enjoyed. It was nice to relive in my memory some of that.

The abortion issue was not something that I brought up, but it was discovered. I was questioned about it in circumstances where I was supposed to be completely honest and open in the interview process in Penthouse. When it was asked of me, I confirmed that, yes, I had an abortion, and the baby was his. I hadn't chosen to bring that up because it was such a sensitive subject for my mother, who is a Catholic.

I think it's a woman's right to make that choice. I'm not ashamed of making that choice. To have left that out of the book would have been pretty obvious since it had been talked about so often.

Review: You described Bill and Hillary as having an agreement to extramarital affairs. Could you elaborate?

Flowers: All I know is what Bill told me. I never knew anything about that as fact. However, I had no reason to doubt what he told me. He obviously knew, and it just didn't bother him. He thought it was funny. He was very casual about it. I was the one that was concerned.

Review: Was Hillary's affair with a man or a woman?

Flowers: A woman.

Review: In your book you described Bill Clinton smoking marijuana with you on a number of occasions and even describing his own cocaine use.

Flowers: Well, he described what it did to him when he used it [cocaine]. He didn't use it around me. He laughed and said that if I wanted to do it, he could get some. And he laughed and said that when he did cocaine it made his scalp itch really badly, and that he felt like a goofball because he walked around wanting to scratch his head like Gomer Pyle.

Review: What did you think of the Clintons' appearance on 60 Minutes, in which Bill Clinton denied having an affair?

Flowers: Well, I didn't expect Bill to tell the truth about our relationship. I was appalled to hear that they [60 Minutes] could have edited that show either way -- one was the way that we saw it, which helped his campaign and got him elected to the Presidency -- and the other way would have put him back in New Hampshire looking for votes.

Now, I do not believe that 60 Minutes tried to get at the truth of the matter. They knew what kind of ratings they were going to get at the Superbowl with Bill and Hillary Clinton on, after my story had become public. It was all a game of ratings. It wasn't about the truth, and I think in that respect they did the American public a disservice.

The American public has a right to know various things -- a lot of things -- about a person who wants to become our President. For a show that is supposed to practice responsible journalism to allow something like that to happen, I think is a travesty. I think it's an insult to the American public. I think 60 Minutes should be ashamed of itself. Bill and Hillary sat up there and lied to save their *sses. Okay, that's bad enough -- but it was worse that 60 Minutes, for the ratings, which translates into money and power, after all, allowed that story to come out as it did, without trying to get to the bottom of the story and the facts. It was a joke.

Review: Do you think that Bill and Hillary are exploiting their relationship for political interests?

Flowers: Oh, sure they are. They're still working as a team. Even if Bill had wanted to be honest about it -- if he had said, 'I caused pain in my marriage with women' -- it's probably going to be really hard for you to campaign while you're going through a divorce.

Hillary didn't want to be humiliated in front of the nation. You know, she's putting forth this image of independence, liberation, and integrity -- ha!

And in order to maintain this image she puts forth she didn't need him to admit that he womanized. I think that if he had admitted to womanizing, he would have been a hero to the American public, because they would have thought, 'We finally have a politician who can be honest with us. If Bill and Hillary can put it behind them, we'll allow that and go on.'

Review: What do you think of Hillary personally?

Flowers: I think it's a shame that Hillary isn't all that she claims to be. I would love to see a woman in the White House, a First Lady, be a liberated, independent-thinking woman with integrity.

But I feel that she has compromised her integrity on an ongoing basis for a number of years for this man. As far as her independence and liberation, that is just fine until it becomes inconvenient for his position, and she's told to back off. So how truly independent can she be? She'll be out there for a while, and when that becomes unpopular they'll stick her in the background. She should say, 'Look, you're not sticking me in the background. This is what I believe, damn it -- and this is what I'm going to say.' Her integrity and her independence are only there when it's convenient, and when it's not she has to compromise them and go back in the closet. I think they're birds of a feather. I think one is just as bad as the other. I think that they're going to do what it takes to stay in that office and to get back into that office. And whatever groups they have to sacrifice, and whatever people have to be sacrificed, so be it.

Review: Do you think Bill Clinton would allow physical harm to come to his enemies?

Flowers: Oh, I do. Indirectly. I don't think Bill's going to go out and do these things himself. But I think that indirectly he's capable of doing a lot of things. His hands may be tied more now than ever before, because he's in such a high-profile situation. I'm not calling Bill a murderer, but I'm just saying that I think he's very capable of doing what it takes to accomplish what he needs.

Review: Do you think Bill Clinton is an appropriate representative of what America stands for?

Flowers: I don't think Bill is a role model for anyone. There certainly are some accomplishments to Bill's credit that could be considered worthy of a role model. Bill is basically a self-made man. Nobody gave him anything. He had very strong goals and ambitions and he was very determined. Obviously, Bill Clinton has accomplished the ultimate political goal.

But I think that character matters -- and I just don't have any respect for him at this point on that basis. I think that not only should he have accomplished various things to be a role model to speak to your school, but I think that he should be an honest man with integrity as well.

I think that integrity and character and honesty matter in a role model. It matters in anyone, but if you are going to put yourself out there as a role model, then you have a lot of responsibility.

Don't get me wrong. I know we're all human and no one's perfect, but you make choices -- you make a choice to be a teacher, you make a choice to want to be the President of the United States. In doing so you should realize the responsibility that goes with it in terms of being a role model.

For example, Jimmy Swaggert, Jim Bakker -- guys like that who are ultimate role models -- they devastate lives when they turn out to be less than they pretend. Bill Clinton is in the position of affecting all of our lives as American citizens.

I'd like to think that the man could be honest with us. But I think he's going to be as honest as he needs to be until it becomes inconvenient."

Dartmouth Review

Posted by: Julie | May 8, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse


More info on Obama's connection to big oil companies:

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-money24apr24,0,2613458.story

Posted by: Obama's connection to big oil companies | May 8, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Were I the Dems I would be more interested in the end game after Hillary's end game, cause at the moment it looks like a punt.

http://strictlyanecdotal.com/2008/05/08/thank-you-gary-hart-for-reminding-me-of-my-place.aspx

Posted by: LCSusan | May 8, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

ELsa you are ignorant.... How did Bills indiscretions effect you???..and were you so perfect in your life??BUT WHAT REALLY MATTERS>>> How did BIll and HILLARY'S term in office effect you??..WELL YOU LIVED IN THE TIME OF THE MOST ECONOMIC GROWTH THAN ANY PRESIDENCY OF THE HISTORY OF THE USA AND YOU LIVED WITH THE BIGGEST ECONOMIC GROWTH OF ANY PRESIDENCY IN THE USA..Were you better off than than now?? Where you better off after they came in the White house than you were before? If you say no you are a Liar ..because the proof is in the FACTS OF HISTORY!! SO quite being stuck on stupid and making ignorant statement..Obama has bold faced lied over 50 times in the election..and Hillary all they could dig up was a discrepency they had to go back l0 years for ..so what does that tell you?? Educate yourself and read the 50 lies Obama told the is elections see Political Forum Campaigns and Elections by Latisha..HILLARY 2008!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Barrack Hussein Obama. When they went live and talked about the history of the issue. He had no clue he was a deer in the headlights. He can make a good speech if it is written for him. He is as mindless and clueless as the rest of the Dems. Oh by the way the old folks that vote Dem are still stuck on JFK who would be a moderate Republican with the way he voted. Not a liberal dumbass.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Forgot to add that Obama's cash also comes from big oil companies. The same ones charging $3.65 per gallon for regular unleaded.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Pete,

Is it whining only because I don't agree with your position? If so, can you send me a list of preapproved script to use when expressing myself. Thank you so much.

As to the bill, yes big problem. Michigan is suffereing hugely form job loss. Our major industries are losing money and our population is declining and seeking jobs elsewhere. So it's hard to use state funds, when we are cutting the poor, the elderly and the single parent off from aid. Hardly seems like a responsible think to do under these terms.

Then again, big buck Obama and Clinton could pay for the revote. The problem is Obama's cronies don't want to do that. So it kills it right there.

Principle, principle, principle.

You keep seeing it in my post. And in retort whiner whiner whiner racist racist racist.

WOW, elevate your game OBAMAICANS.

Posted by: michigan demo | May 8, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

kitty? you must be a stripper with a low iq. Dude? seriously.

but besides that.
drugs or no drugs.
Obama is the best Democratic nominee. Anyone with brains can see that.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

WOW! I find it amazing how much energy the Hill haters actually put into hating her.

Posted by: HillaryAllTheWay | May 8, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Obama's cash comes from a mixture of big business, special interest groups, rich Hollywood elites and the occasional personal donation from everyday people.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

So we will have to change our churches every now & then because who knows if the pastor say something wrong we may be held responsible for it!!

Posted by: Michal | May 8, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Obama would have sang like a canary in the Hanoi Hilton. We would all be doomed.

Posted by: Jerry | May 8, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

"Where does all of Obama's cash come from anyway?" just wondering

Hello,

it comes from people like me. " A hard working 67 year old white man living in Portland Oregon. There are over 1.5,000,000 of us so far.

Go to www.barackobama.com to read Senator Obama's plans and ideas. It's all there.

Barack Obama 2008

Posted by: Tom | May 8, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

"a leader who smoked crack?
he grew up in the 60's and the 70's. It was the time for drugs. Hardly anyone DIDNT do them."

John McCain probably had a tough time finding a bag of smoke IN THE HANOI HILTON suffering unspeakable hardships all while NOT selling out. Obama wouldn't last 2 minutes in a place like that.

Posted by: McCain Supporter | May 8, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

You are mistaken. I did not say "smoked" (as in past tense). I said "smokes" (as in does it NOW). Dude. Pay attention.

Posted by: Kitty | May 8, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

IF HILLARY DOES NOT WIN ....HILLARY SUPPORTERS WILL WRITE HER NAME IN >>IN NUMBERS LIKE HAVE NEVER BEEN SEEN BEFORE >>BEFORE THEY WILL VOTE A CORRUPT LIAR Barack Hussein Obama IF THE PARTY DOES NOT GIVE ALL THE STATES THEIR VOTES MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA WILL RETALIATE AND RIGHTLY SO...HILLARY SUPPORTERS SAY THERE IS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...SECOND CHOICE!!! Obama has the background worse then some criminals and he doesn't have the experience to run the city rec club..all you uninvolved stuck on stupid are going to hurt this nation even more..NO god da-- America with Barack Huessein Obama in the "Wright" house..BUT GOD BLESS AMERICA WITH THE "RIGHT"CANDIDATE HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON IN THE WHITE HOUSE!! HILLARY 2008!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Anyone but Hillary. We do not need a compulsive liar and her adulterous husband in the White House. And we don't need a MacSenior as a president, the Iraq war will last longer than him. He belongs to a retirement home.

Trust no one named Clinton. Obama will win in November but hopefully, he will not be forced to put her in the ticket as a VP. Otherwise, Bill will arrange to have Obama done with, and thus install Hillary as the President. Do not trust the Clintons!

Posted by: Elsa | May 8, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

When I read all these postings, I was mesmarized! Shish, does Clintonites are so blind? Don't they see there is no light ?

Oh I can not breath! Hillary is a scumbag, the list is way too long ...

Clintons like bazuka game, they like to play twister! Look guys, for 36 years Clintons created more mess than you ever imagine, they like spin-room.

Despite impeachment and playing cigar with 'that woman', Monica darling, Clintons trying to fool Americans. Kathelyn WIlly, Jenifer FLowers, Monica Lewinsky, Webster Hubble, there are too many scandals!

Clintons has no chance of winning. She is having a blush with Rush Limbaugh, but, that will fade away in November.

If you don't get, you never will!!

Vote wisely, vote o8ama.

Posted by: lullabye | May 8, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

The electability issue is silly. All three candidates are electable, and in national polls all three have been very close.

I support Obama because I truly believe he is the best candidate. My parents, both over 65, believe Obama is the best candidate. My sisters and my boyfriend, all believe Obama is the best candidate. We span generations, have varying levels of education, and are all white.

All three candidates are electable; it just depends on who we all go out and vote for in November, and at least all of my family will be voting for Obama.

Posted by: Lisa | May 8, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Hilary, never quit!!! People hate quitter. If you do, I will vote for McCain.

Posted by: Warrior | May 8, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

LOL

She lost, get over it.

Everyone keep in mind that all these morons that are threatening to vote for McCockroach now that Hillary lost are Republicans to begin with, not Dems.

Real Democratic women, and men, will vote for the Democratic candidate in November. The Clinton Groupies are a few fringe idiots, her "supporters" are Democrats and are well aware of their own best interests and won't vote against them.

These fringe clowns are just that, clowns. Willing to kill more of our troops just to put a set of tits in the oval office.
They have always been Repigs.
They are no loss to Obama.

No Clintons. Not for President, not for VP, nothing.

The Betty's, Bill and Bosnia, are finished. ;)

Learn to live with it and stop whining.

Posted by: captainkona | May 8, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

a leader who smoked crack?
he grew up in the 60's and the 70's. It was the time for drugs. Hardly anyone DIDNT do them.
How would he knew he would be running for president.
As least he has confessed instead of another "I didn't inhale" situation.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Michigan: Democracy is not a matter of total votes... it's a matter of total representation.

If the world were a "democracy" by your definition then China and India would determine how people need to live in the rest of the world.

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You want them to tally all the votes and just compare those numbers? Well thats fine... let obama restart his campaign and build strategy around that (Republican) model.

He was smart enough to build his strategy around the Democratic party's method. Hillary wasn't.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

i'm still holding out for colbert

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

So many interesting comments from the anti-Obama folks. Many are just venomous. Just can't stand the thought of him as president. Well it's over. In the military they say: Lead, Follow or Get out of the way. It is apparent that Obama supports and Obama going to Lead. All others have to make a choice.

Posted by: NotSuprised | May 8, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

I'm not voting for Obama.

Posted by: Race Baiter | May 8, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Joyce, I'm a democrat from 1978. My first vote was for Jimmy Carter. I've voted every time for Dems. I believed in the party, what it stood for etc. I used to believe that the party was for working people, for people that were concern for their fellow neighbor, a party that supported civil rights for people of color, gender, sexual orientation and so on. WOW I know that a lot of cynics would just laugh at that. But Joyce, I'm not Hillary, I don't get paid by the DNC, I've met Debby Dingle a couple of times and didn't much care for her. Perhaps the only state party leader I know. And we have a lot of analysis here saying that Dingle, Granholm (who I voted for and a dem) basically wanted to give the state to Hillary. But Joyce, I don't know these people. I only know that this is the most exciting primary in my lifetime. It will be perhaps the most exciting primary in my lifetime and I'm basically told I don't count.

I see this as a test for the Dems, and Barack in particular. He could help pay for the revote, he could stand on principle which he claims is his MO, and he could win this thing here. You want to unite the democratic party, that is how you do it. You want to split the party, go to the RULES COMMITTEE.

Posted by: michigan demo | May 8, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

To Michigan demo,

You seem to fail to understand exactly how huge of an ordeal a full out re-vote would be. Obama has very fairly refused to allow all the Michigan votes to be counted as is (like Hillary wants) since he WASN'T EVEN ON THE BALLOT. He has NEVER refused to look at other options for resolving it. However, a re-vote costs A LOT of money. If you, and all your fellow citizens from Michigan, are willing to pay for a big spike in your taxes to finance the re-vote, then that is one viable option to consider. However, I think we all know that not everyone would be so thrilled about footing the bill to pay for some terrible decisions on the part of your party leaders. Find a reasonable solution to this problem that your own state has put you in (not Obama), and then you can continue to whine and complain.

Posted by: Pete | May 8, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Clinton can't win. It's just not possible. She won't win the popular vote, she won't win the delegate count, and the superdelegates would never flout the will of the electorate by voting against the nominee who won the most votes. Clinton is tenacious and resourceful, but she just can't win this race and it's painful for many Democrats to witness the depths to which she is sinking. Her comments about capturing the white vote and the non-college educated vote are indicative of two things: she's attached to any shred of pollster-driven analysis that would indicate she still has a chance, and she's losing sight of the bigger picture. Enough with the sniping and bare-knuckle fighting. Clinton is embarrassing her supporters, dragging this campaign into the mud, and prolonging the inevitable.

Posted by: Jefferson | May 8, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

I do not understand Democrats. Hug a tree but ok to kill the unborn. Take from the achievers and give to the underachievers. We live in a free country you say, well that means free enterprise also. Global warming is a joke yet you believe it. Do you realize democrats thinking is really close to socialism. Yet you gloat about living in a free country. Every week minded person with a take care of me attitude is a Democrat. What do you people stand for. Obama has no clue and Hilary is a liar yet you guys believe their story that they will change things. I hope they get in and watch the mess they make and they will blame others like every Dem does because they are all mindless pupits. Get a clue people. Oh by the way John McCain is really a Dem also, Its one of the 3 stooges that will run our already messed up, take care of the lazy country.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Either way it goes it's all for show now. Neither B. Hussein Obama nor the Hildebeast have a chance against McCain. Once again, just like in 2004, the Presidency is theirs for the asking if only the democrats would pick someone moderate. Nope, not gonna happen. This time they decide to run the most extreme liberal in the Senate or the most disliked woman in the country. The Republicans on the other hand have sent us a moderate. Party extremists can babble on like idiots all day long about how Republicans cheat the working people. I am NOT going to vote for a Marxist imbecile with a cult following or a bitter old woman who can't accept reality, both of whom have too many ethical problems and too little ability beyond their talent for rhetoric. McCain may not be perfect, but once again the American people are going to be stuck with the lesser of two undesirables.

Posted by: UAW Man | May 8, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

If I had to vote for someone to stand up and negotiate with Russia or China I would choose Hillary each and everytime. Good Luck America!

Posted by: Robert | May 8, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

The Bronze Star, Silver Star, Legion of Merit, Distinguished Flying Cross and Prisoner of War Medal beats 20 years as a member in good standing at Trinity United church.

Posted by: UmmHuhh | May 8, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Hillary outworked Obama in his backyard state IN, won a close, tough, outspent race and got no credit whatsoever for it from the Obamacult media.

Posted by: John | May 8, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Obama is gay. Obama smokes crack. Do your research. I don't care if he's gay. He is married, though, so I think that shows a lack of integrity on his part. He uses his wife and family for political stature. If he won we'd be hearing about the male interns who visit him, oy vey. Terrible. I DO care that he smokes crack. This is not a quality I look for in a leader. We're screwed if he wins.

Posted by: Kitty | May 8, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Joyce, don't forget George Soros and the loony left special interest groups.

Posted by: Just wondering | May 8, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Imagine.. O'Bama wins, the 'Twofers' go bankrupt and leave the country and live in Europe (or on Easter Island) in exile, Al Sharktongue and Jesse Jackass defect by highjacking an old single engine Cessna to Cuba (somewhere off the Coast they disappear in the 'Triangle' and are never heard from again), Rappers 'n Hoods 'n Pushers also fall off the radar after being tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail, America new President fires the NEA Union and parents demand all children be allowed to attend any accredited school they chose -public or private- with government vouchers, etc., etc., etc.,... Oh! What a day! Imagine...

Posted by: Bliethe Spirit | May 8, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Go Obama! Win that nomination!

Posted by: McCain Donor | May 8, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Give me a break Hillary has said time and time again she WILL support Obama.

Posted by: HillaryAllTheWay | May 8, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Just Wondering
Obama's cash comes from millions of small donors like ME.

Posted by: Joyce | May 8, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Jay Leno,

There is even a stronger correlation between Obama supporters and people with an IQ lower than 27!

Poor grammar could be corrected but stupidity don't!

Your role model proves it!

Posted by: Caronte | May 8, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Isn't the real issue here is that people want to change the rules.??.and the rules as they have been for the life of the Democratic Party..ALL STATES VOTE!! Actions of a few to change a date are no way a reason to take away MILLIONS OF PEOPLES RIGHT TO VOTE AND WHOLE STATES SAY IN A ELECTION! THAT IS THE PART THAT THE DEMOCRATIC HAVE TO MAKE RIGHT>>AND WHEN THAT IS IN PLACE ADD THE NUMBERS AND SEE THE REAL WINNER!!DEAN SHOULD NOT OF taken such outlandish actions to punish a few ..which by the way this started with THE REPUBLICAN PARTY CHANGING THE DATES IN FLORIDA???? If your neighbor changed the date of the community days..should the WHOLE STATE BE PUNISHED BECAUSE the actions of a few? THe punishment did not fit the crime..so make it RIGHT and follow the rules that the Democratic Party and America's rules ..COUNT ALL THE STATES!!!!!!!!!Hillary stand strong you are winning this race the right way!!DON"T LET THE BULLIES SWAY YOU>>REMEMBER BULLIES BULLY TO GET THEIR WAY BECAUSE THEY ARE REALLY COWARDS WHO CAN'T WIN!! GOD BLESS AMERICA WITH HILLARY 2008!

Posted by: BYEOBAMA | May 8, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

The Bronze Star, Silver Star, Legion of Merit, Distinguished Flying Cross and Prisoner of War Medal beats 20 years as a member in good standing at Trinity United church.

Posted by: McCain '08 - Get Over It | May 8, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

I do not understand Democrats. Hug a tree but ok to kill the unborn. Take from the achievers and give to the underachievers. We live in a free country you say, well that means free enterprise also. Global warming is a joke yet you believe it. Do you realize democrats thinking is really close to socialism. Yet you gloat about living in a free country. Every week minded person with a take care of me attitude is a Democrat. What do you people stand for. Obama has no clue and Hilary is a liar yet you guys believe their story that they will change things. I hope they get in and watch the mess they make and they will blame others like every Dem does because they are all mindless pupits. Get a clue people. Oh by the way John McCain is really a Dem also, Its one of the 3 stooges that will run our already messed up, take care of the lazy country.

Posted by: Sean W | May 8, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse


List of Barack Obama presidential campaign endorsements

U.S. Senators
Sen. Jeff Bingaman (D-NM), Chairman of the Committee on Energy and Natural Resources[1]
Sen. Bob Casey, Jr. (D-PA) [2]
Sen. Kent Conrad (D-ND), Chairman of the Budget Committe[3]
Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT), former 2008 Presidential candidate and Chairman of the Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs[4]
Sen. Byron Dorgan (D-ND), Chairman of the Democratic Policy Committee, and the Committee on Indian Affairs[5]
Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL), Senate Majority Whip[6]
Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI)[7]
Sen. Tim Johnson, Chairman of the Ethics Committee (D-SD) [8]
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA), Chairman of the Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions[9][10]
Sen. John Kerry (D-MA), 2004 Democratic Presidential Nominee, Chairman of the Small Business Committee[11]
Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN)[12]
Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT), Chairman of the Judiciary Committee [13]
Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO) [14]
Sen. Ben Nelson (D-NE) [15]
Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV), Chairman of the Intelligence Committee [16]
Fmr. Sen. David Boren (D-OK)[17]
Fmr. Sen. Bill Bradley (D-NJ) [18]
Fmr. Sen. Jean Carnahan (D-MO)[19]
Fmr. Sen. Lincoln Chafee (I-RI), (R-RI while in office)[20][21]
Fmr. Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle (D-SD) [22]
Fmr. Sen. Gary Hart (D-CO)[23]
Fmr. Shadow Sen. Jesse Jackson (D-DC)[24][25]
Frm. Sen. George McGovern (D-SD), 1972 Democratic Presidential Nominee[26]
Fmr. Sen. John Melcher (D-MT)[27]
Fmr. Sen. Sam Nunn (D-GA)[17]
Fmr. Sen. Lowell P. Weicker Jr. (I-CT), (R-CT, while in office)[28]
Fmr. Sen. Harris Wofford (D-PA)[29]


[edit] U.S. Representatives
Rep. Neil Abercrombie (D-HI)[30][31]
Rep. Brian Baird (D-WA)[32]
Rep. John Barrow (D-GA)[33]
Rep. Melissa Bean (D-IL)[34]
Rep. Xavier Becerra (D-CA)[35]
Rep. Sanford Bishop (D-GA) [36]
Rep. Earl Blumenauer (D-OR) [37]
Rep. Rick Boucher (D-VA)[38]
Rep. Bruce Braley (D-IA)[39]
Rep. G. K. Butterfield (D-NC)[40]
Rep. Lois Capps (D-CA)[41][42]
Rep. Mike Capuano (D-MA)[43]
Rep. Russ Carnahan (D-MO)[34]
Rep. André Carson (D-IN)[44]
Rep. Kathy Castor (D-FL)[45]
Rep. Ben Chandler (D-KY)[46]
Rep. William Lacy Clay, Jr. (D-MO)[47]
Rep. Steve Cohen (D-TN)[48]
Rep. John Conyers (D-MI)[47]
Rep. Jim Cooper (D-TN)[34]
Rep. Jerry Costello (D-IL)[34]
Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD)[47][30]
Rep. Artur Davis (D-AL)[47]
Rep. Danny K. Davis (D-IL)[47][49]
Rep. Bill Delahunt (D-MA) [50]
Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-CT)[51]
Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D-TX)[52]
Rep. Chet Edwards (D-TX)[53]
Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN)[47][54][30]
Rep. Anna Eshoo (D-CA) [55]
Rep. Chaka Fattah (D-PA)[47][56]
Rep. Bill Foster (D-IL) [57]
Rep. Charlie Gonzalez (D-TX)[58]
Rep. Al Green (D-TX)[47]
Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-AZ)[59]
Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL)[34]
Rep. Phil Hare (D-IL)[34]
Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin[60]
Rep. Baron Hill (D-IN)[61]
Rep. Paul Hodes (D-NH)[62]
Rep. Jesse Jackson, Jr. (D-IL)[47][63]
Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson (D-TX)[64]
Rep. Hank Johnson (D-GA)[47]
Rep. Steve Kagen (D-WI)[65]
Rep. Patrick J. Kennedy (D-RI)[66]
Rep. Ron Kind (D-WI)[67]
Rep. John Larson (D-CT)[68]
Rep. Rick Larsen (D-WA) [69]
Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA)[47]
Rep. John Lewis (D-GA)[70]
Rep. Dan Lipinski (D-IL)[71]
Rep. David Loebsack (D-IA)[72]
Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-CA)[73]
Rep. Betty McCollum (D-MN) [74]
Rep. Brad Miller (D-NC)[75]
Rep. George Miller (D-CA)[76]
Rep. Gwen Moore (D-WI)[47]
Rep. Jim Moran (D-VA)[77]
Rep. Chris Murphy (D-CT)[68]
Rep. Patrick Murphy (D-PA)[34]
Rep. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-DC)[78]
Rep. Jim Oberstar (D-MN)[37]
Rep. David Obey (D-WI)[79]
Rep. Ed Perlmutter (D-CO)[80]
Rep. David Price (D-NC)[81]
Rep. Earl Pomeroy (D-ND)[82]
Rep. Nick Rahall (D-WV)[83]
Rep. Steve Rothman (D-NJ)[34]
Rep. Bobby Rush (D-IL)[47]
Rep. Linda Sánchez (D-CA)[84]
Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL)[85]
Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA)[86]
Rep. David Scott (D-GA)[87]
Rep. Bobby Scott (D-VA) [88]
Rep. Carol Shea-Porter (D-NH)[89]
Rep. Adam Smith (D-WA) [90][30]
Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-MS)[91]
Rep. Tim Walz (D-MN)[92]
Rep. Mel Watt (D-NC)[81]
Rep. Peter Welch (D-VT)[93]
Rep. Robert Wexler (D-FL)[34]
Rep. David Wu (D-OR)[94]
Rep. John Yarmuth (D-KY)[95]
Rep. Eni Faleomavaega (D-AS) (non-voting Delegate)[96]
Fmr. Rep. John B. Anderson (I-IL), (R-IL while in office) [97]
Fmr. Rep. Berkley Bedell (D-IA)[98]
Fmr. Rep. David Bonior (D-MI)[99]
Fmr. Rep. Don Bonker (D-WA)[citation needed]
Fmr. Rep. Brad Carson (D-OK), Special Assistant to the Secretary of Defense[100]
Fmr. Rep. Don Edwards (D-CA)[101]
Fmr. Rep. Lee Hamilton (D-IN), Vice Chairman of the 9/11 Commission and the Iraq Study Group[102][103]
Fmr. Rep. Ken Hechler (D-WV), former West Virginia Secretary of State[104]
Fmr. Rep. Andrew Jacobs (D-IN)[105]
Fmr. Rep. Mel Levine (D-CA)[86]
Fmr. Rep. Ken Lucas (D-KY)[106]
Fmr. Rep. Romano L. Mazzoli (D-KY)[107]
Fmr. Rep. Pete McCloskey (D-CA) (R-CA while in office) [108]
Fmr. Rep. Abner J. Mikva (D-IL), former White House Counsel under President Clinton; Chief Judge, DC Court of Appeals[109]
Fmr. Rep. Major Owens (D-NY)[110]
Fmr. Rep. Tim Roemer (D-IN), Member of the 9/11 Commission[111]
Fmr. Rep. Mike Ward (D-KY)[106]
Fmr. Rep. Howard Wolpe (D-MI)[109]
Fmr. Rep. Albert Wynn (D-MD)[112]


[edit] Governors
Gov. Aníbal Acevedo Vilá (D-PR) [113][114]
Gov. Rod Blagojevich (D-IL) [115]
Gov. Chet Culver (D-IA) [116][117]
Gov. Jim Doyle (D-WI) [118]
Gov. Dave Freudenthal (D-WY) [119]
Gov. Christine Gregoire (D-WA) [120]
Gov. Brad Henry (D-OK) [121][122]
Gov. John de Jongh (D-VI) [123]
Gov. Tim Kaine (D-VA) [124]
Gov. Janet Napolitano (D-AZ) [125]
Gov. Deval Patrick (D-MA) [126]
Gov. Bill Richardson (D-NM) [127]
Gov. Kathleen Sebelius (D-KS) [128]
Fmr. Gov. Cecil Andrus (D-ID) [129]
Fmr. Gov. David Boren (D-OK)[17]
Fmr. Gov. Hugh L. Carey (D-NY) [130]
Fmr. Gov. Richard Codey (D-NJ) [131]
Fmr. Gov. John J. Gilligan (D-OH) [132]
Fmr. Gov. Walter Joseph Hickel(I-AK) [133]
Fmr. Gov. Jim Hodges (D-SC) [134]
Fmr. Gov. Philip H. Hoff (D-VT) [135]
Fmr. Gov. John Kitzhaber (D-OR) [136]
Fmr. Gov. Tony Knowles (D-AK) [137]
Fmr. Gov. Ray Mabus (D-MS), former United States Ambassador to Saudi Arabia[138]
Fmr. Gov. Barbara Roberts (D-OR) [136]
Fmr. Gov. Lowell P. Weicker Jr. (I-CT), (R-CT while in office) [139]
Fmr. Gov. Mark White (D-TX) [140]
Fmr. Gov. Douglas Wilder (D-VA) [141]


[edit] Presidential staff and advisors
Zbigniew Brzezinski, former National Security Advisor [142]
Greg Craig, former Assistant to the President and Director of Policy Planning, State Department[109]
William M. Daley, former Secretary of Commerce [143]
Bob Gee, former United States Assistant Secretary of Energy under Bill Clinton [144]
Eric Holder, former Deputy Attorney General [109]
Douglas Kmiec, legal counsel to Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, and co-chairman of Romney's Committee for the Courts and the Constitution[145][146][147][148]
Noel Koch, former Special Assistant to President Nixon; former Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs[109]
Lawrence Korb, former Assistant Secretary of Defense[109]
Anthony Lake, former National Security Advisor under Bill Clinton[109]
Robert Litt, former Principal Associate Deputy Attorney General; US Attorney[109]
Jan Lodal, former Deputy Undersecretary of Defense[109]
Angela E. Oh, former member, of the President's Initiative on Race[149]
Federico Peña, former Secretary of Transportation and Secretary of Energy under Bill Clinton [150]
Robert Reich, former Secretary of Labor under Bill Clinton[151][152]
Susan E. Rice, former Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs [143]
David Scheffer, former Ambassador-at-Large for War Crimes Issues [109]
Sarah Sewell, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense[109]
Gayle Smith, former Special Assistant to the President, National Security Council[109]
Ted Sorensen, President John F. Kennedy's top advisor and speechwriter [153]
Tara Sonenshine, former Special Assistant to the President, National Security Council[109]
David Wilhelm, President Bill Clinton's 1992 campaign chairman[154]


[edit] Military
Clifford Alexander, Jr., former Secretary of the Army[109]
Susan Ahn Cuddy, first female gunner officer in the U.S. Navy and daughter of Korean Independence fighter Ahn Chang-ho[155]
Tom Daniels, Texas Air National Guard[109]
Richard Danzig, former Secretary of the Navy[109]
Larry Gillespie, Brigadier General (Ret), Assistant Deputy Commanding General, (ARNG) Army Material Command[156]
Scott Gration Major General (USAF-Ret), former Director of Strategy, Policy, and Assessments of the United States European Command in Germany[156]
Donald Joseph Guter, former Judge Advocate General of the Navy, current Dean, Duquesne University School of Law, Pittsburgh[109][156]
Richard D. Hearney, former Assistant Commandant of the Marine Corps[109]
John Hutson, former Judge Advocate General of the U.S. Navy[157]
Jeh Johnson, former General Counsel of the U.S. Air Force[109]
Lester Lyles, former Vice Chief of Staff of the United States Air Force[109]
David 'Dave' McGinnis, Brigadier General (Ret), former Chief of Staff of the National Guard Association of the U.S.[156]
Merrill A. McPeak, four star General (Ret), former Secretary of the United States Air Force during Operation Desert Storm, [156][158][159]
John B. Nathman (Ret), former Commander, U.S. Fleet Forces Command and Vice Chief of Naval Operations[109][156]
F. Whitten Peters, former Secretary of the Air Force[109]
Hugh Robinson, Major General (Ret), Commander of the Southwestern Division[156]
James Smith, Brigadier General (USAF-Ret), former Commander, Joint Warfighting Center, U.S. Joint Forces Command, Joint Training Analysis and Simulation Center[109][156]
Robert 'Willie' Williamson Rear Admiral (USN-Ret), served as military Deputy Assistant Secretary of the Navy for Research, Development and Acquisition and Director, Office of Program Appraisal.
Ralph Wooten Major General (Ret), former Commanding General of the Army's Chemical Arsenal, currently the Executive Vice President of Management Systems, Inc.[156]


National political figures
Joe Andrew, former Democratic National Committee Chairman 1999-2001[160]
Jeffrey Bader, former U.S. Ambassador to Namibia and Fmr. Assistant US Trade Representative for Asia[109]
Henri Barkey, former member of U.S. Department of State Policy Planning and Professor of Lehigh University[109]
David Birenbaum, former U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. for Management and Reform[109]
Esther Brimmer, former member of U.S. Department of State Policy Planning[109]
Art Brown, former National Intelligence Officer for East Asia and Chief of CIA's East Asian Operations Division[109]
Mark Brzezinski, former Director of European Affairs of National Security Council[109]
Joseph Cirincione, Vice President for National Security and International Policy at the Center for American Progress[109]
Bonnie Cohen, former Undersecretary of State for Management[109]
Ivo H. Daalder, former Director, European Affairs, National Security Council[109]
Alice Dear, former U.S. Executive Director of African Development Bank[109]
Michael Froman, Chief of Staff and Deputy Assistant Secretary at the Department of Treasury and National Security Council Staff Member[109]
Tony Gambino, former Mission Director, USAID, Democratic Republic of the Congo[109]
Tobi Gati, former Assistant Secretary of State for Intelligence and Research; Senior Director for Russia, Ukraine and Eurasian Affairs, National Security Council[109]
Robert S. Gelbard, former Presidential Envoy for the Balkans; Assistant Secretary of State for International Narcotics and Law Enforcement; Ambassador to Indonesia; and Ambassador to Bolivia[109]
John J. Gibbons, former federal appeals court judge[161]
Matthew Goodman, former Director for Asian Affairs, National Security Council[109]
Philip Gordon, former Director, European Affairs, National Security Council[109]
Scott Gould, former Assistant Secretary of Commerce for Management[109]
Scott Gration, former Director for Strategy, Policy and Planning, U.S. European Command[109]
Gabriel Guerra-Mondragón, former United States Ambassador to Chile[162]
John Holum, former Director of ACDA and Undersecretary State for Arms Control and International Security[109]
Vicki Huddleston, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State and Ambassador to Mali and Madagascar, Chief of Mission to Cuba and Ethiopia[109]
Paul Igasaki, fmr. Vice Chair and Commissioner of the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission[149]
Paul G. Kirk, Jr., former Democratic National Committee Chairman 1985-1988[163]
David Lipton, former Under Secretary of Treasury for International Affairs[109]
Frank Loy, former Undersecretary of State for Global Affairs[109]
Donald McHenry, former United States Ambassador to the United Nations[109]
Norman Mineta, former U.S. Rep. (D-CA), mayor of San Jose, United States Secretary of Transportation and United States Secretary of Commerce[101]
Newton N. Minow, former Chairman of the Federal Communications Commission[164]
Alfred H. Moses, former United States Ambassador to Romania[109]
Nick Rey, former United States Ambassador to Poland[109]
Witney Schneidman, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs[109]
Dan Shapiro, former Director, National Security Council[109]
Mona Sutphen, former Special Assistant to the National Security Advisor[109]
Jim Vermillion, former Mission Director, USAID, Nicaragua[109]
Paul Volcker, former Chairman of the Federal Reserve[165]
Patricia Wald, former Chief Judge for the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit[166]


[edit] Mayors
Ahoskie, North Carolina Mayor Linda Blackburn (D-NC)[167]
Anderson, South Carolina Mayor Terence Roberts (D-SC)[168]
Asheville, North Carolina Mayor Terry Bellamy (D-NC)[169]
Atlanta, Georgia Mayor Shirley Franklin (D-GA) [170]
Angola, Indiana Mayor Dick Hickman (D-IN)[171]
Austin, Texas Mayor Will Wynn (D-TX)[172]
Baltimore, Maryland Mayor Sheila Dixon (D-MD)[173]
Batesville, Indiana Mayor Richard Fledderman (D-IN)[171]
Bloomington, Indiana Mayor Mark Kruzan (D-IN)[171]
Bluffton, Indiana Mayor Ted Ellis (D-IN)[171]
Boise, Idaho Mayor David H. Bieter (D-ID)[174]
Bolton, North Carolina Mayor Frank Wilson (D-NC)[167]
Boone, North Carolina Mayor Loretta Clawson (D-NC)[169]
Brownsville, Texas Mayor Pat Ahumada (D-TX)[175]
Camp Hill, Pennsylvania Mayor Lou Thieblemont (D-PA), (formerly R-PA)[176]
Carrboro, North Carolina Mayor Mark H. Chilton (D-NC)[169]
Cary, North Carolina Mayor Harold Weinbrecht (D-NC)[169]
Chapel Hill, North Carolina Mayor Kevin Foy (D-NC)[169]
Chicago, Illinois Mayor Richard M. Daley (D-IL)[177]
Cincinnati, Ohio Mayor Mark L. Mallory (D-OH)[178]
Cleveland, Ohio Mayor Frank G. Jackson (D-OH)[179]
Clinton, Indiana Mayor Jerry Hawkins (D-IN)[171]
Columbia City, Indiana Mayor Jim Fleck (D-IN)[171]
Columbus, Ohio Mayor Michael B. Coleman (D-OH)[180]
Conetoe, North Carolina Mayor Linda Ingram (D-NC)[167]
Creedmoor, North Carolina Mayor Darryl Moss (D-NC)[167]
Cumberland, Rhode Island Mayor Daniel McKee (D-RI)[181]
Dayton, Ohio Mayor Rhine McLin (D-OH)[182]
Des Moines, Iowa Mayor Frank Cownie (D-IA)[183]
Dover, North Carolina Mayor Malcolm Johnson (D-NC)[167]
Dunn, North Carolina Mayor Pro Tem N. Carnell Robinson (D-NC)[167]
Durham, North Carolina Mayor Bill Bell (D-NC)[184]
Durham, North Carolina Mayor Pro Tem Cora McFadden (D-NC)[167]
East Arcadia, North Carolina Mayor Perry Blanks (D-NC)[167]
Edinburg, Texas Mayor Joe Ochoa (D-TX)[175]
Edison, New Jersey Mayor Jun Choi (D-NJ)[185]
Enfield, North Carolina Mayor Warnie Bishop (D-NC)[167]
Evansville, Indiana Mayor Jonathan Weinzapfel (D-IN)[186]
Garrett, Indiana Mayor David Wiant (D-IN)[171]
Garysburg, North Carolina Mayor Roy Bell (D-NC)[167]
Goshen, Indiana Mayor Allan Kauffman (D-IN)[171]
Greendale, Indiana Mayor Doug Hedrick (D-IN)[171]
Greensboro, North Carolina Mayor Yvonne Johnson (D-NC)[187]
Greenville, North Carolina Mayor Pro Tem Mildred Council (D-NC)[167]
Hertford, North Carolina Mayor Pro Tem Horace Reid (D-NC)[167]
Jersey City, New Jersey Mayor Jerramiah Healy (D-NJ)[185]
Lincoln, Nebraska Mayor Chris Beutler (D-NE)[188]
Lancaster, Pennsylvania Mayor Rick Gray (D-PA)[189]
Las Cruces, New Mexico Mayor Ken Miyagishima[190]
Laurinburg, North Carolina Mayor Matthew Block (D-NC)[167]
Lewiston Woodville, North Carolina Mayor Carl Lee Sr. (D-NC)[167]
Long Beach, California Mayor Bob Foster (D-CA)[191]
Madisonville, Kentucky Mayor Will Cox (D-KY)[106]
Mansfield, Ohio Mayor Donald Culliver (D-OH)[192]
Michigan City, Indiana Mayor Chuck Oberlie (D-IN)[171]
Milwaukee, Wisconsin Mayor Tom Barrett (D-WI)[193]
Minneapolis, Minnesota Mayor RT Rybak (D-MN)[194]
Missoula, Montana Mayor John Engen (D-MT)[195]
Monroe, North Carolina Mayor Pro Tem Phil Bazemore (D-NC)[167]
Navassa, North Carolina Mayor Eulis Willis (D-NC)[167]
Navassa, North Carolina Mayor Pro Tem Jerry Merrick (D-NC)[167]
New Haven, Connecticut Mayor John DeStefano, Jr. (D-CT)[196][197]
Newark, New Jersey Mayor Cory Booker (D-NJ)[198]
Northwest, North Carolina Mayor James Knox (D-NC)[167]
North Vernon, Indiana Mayor Harold Campbell (D-IN)[171]
Omaha, Nebraska Mayor Mike Fahey (D-NE)[199]
Pittsboro, North Carolina Mayor Randolph Voller (D-NC)[167]
Raleigh, North Carolina Mayor Charles Meeker (D-NC)[169]
Reading, Pennsylvania Mayor Tom McMahon (D-PA)[200]
Roper, North Carolina Mayor Estelle Sanders (D-NC)[167]
Sandyfield, North Carolina Mayor Perry Dixon (D-NC)[167]
Scotland Neck, North Carolina Mayor James Mill Sr. (D-NC)[167]
Seaboard, North Carolina Mayor Melvin Broadnax (D-NC)[167]
Seattle, Washington Mayor Greg Nickels (D-WA)[201]
Sedalia, North Carolina Mayor Howard Morgan (D-NC)[167]
South Bend, Indiana Mayor Steve Luecke (D-IN)[202]
Speed, North Carolina Mayor Wilbert Harrison (D-NC)[167]
Spring Lake, North Carolina Mayor Ethel Clark (D-NC)[167]
Snow Hill, North Carolina Mayor Donald Davis (D-NC)[167]
Sullivan, Indiana Mayor Scott Biddle (D-IN)[171]
Wagram, North Carolina Mayor Betty Gholston (D-NC)[167]
Washington, D.C. Mayor Adrian Fenty (D-DC)[203]
Weldon, North Carolina Mayor George Draper Jr. (D-NC)[167]
West Hollywood, California Mayor John Duran (D-CA)[86]
Windsor, North Carolina Mayor Robert Spivey (D-NC)[167]
Winston-Salem, North Carolina Mayor Pro Tem Vivian Burke (D-NC)[167]
York, Pennsylvania Mayor John S. Brenner (D-PA)[189]
Youngstown, Ohio Mayor Jay Williams (D-OH)[204]
Fmr. Ashville, North Carolina Mayor Leni Sinick (D-NC)[167]
Fmr. Austin, Texas Mayor Kirk Watson (D-TX)[205]
Fmr. Bloomington, Indiana Mayor John Fernandez (D-IN)[171]
Fmr. Bowling Green, Kentucky Mayor Patsy Sloan (D-KY)[106]
Fmr. Brownsville, Texas Mayor Ygnacio "Nacho" Garza (D-TX)[175]
Fmr. Brownsville, Texas Mayor Blanca Sanchez Vela (D-TX)[175]
Fmr. Brownsville, Texas Mayor Eddie Treviño Jr. (D-TX)[175]
Fmr. Cleveland, Ohio Mayor Michael R. White (D-OH)[206]
Fmr. Charlotte, North Carolina Mayor Harvey Gantt (D-NC)[207]
Fmr. Charlotte, North Carolina Mayor Richard Gusler (D-NC)[208]
Fmr. Dallas, Texas Mayor Ron Kirk (D-TX)[209][64]
Fmr. Denver, Colorado Mayor and Secretary of Energy Federico Peña (D-CO)[210]
Fmr. Fort Wayne, Indiana Mayor Graham Richard (D-IN)[171]
Fmr. Goshen, Indiana Mayor Mike Puro (D-IN)[171]
Fmr. Greensboro, North Carolina Mayor Keith Holiday (D-NC)[167]
Fmr. Harlingen, Texas Mayor Randy Whittington (D-TX)[211]
Fmr. Lexington, Kentucky Mayor Pam Miller (D-KY)[106]
Fmr. Navassa, North Carolina Mayor Lewis Brown (D-NC)[167]
Fmr. Raleigh, North Carolina Mayor Pro Tem James West (D-NC)[167]
Fmr. Washington, D.C. Mayor Marion Barry (D-DC)[212]
Fmr. West Lafayette, Indiana Mayor Sonya Margerum (D-IN)[171]


[edit] State and local officials

[edit] Alabama
Alabama State Rep. Merika Coleman (D-Birmingham)[213]

[edit] Arizona
Arizona Governor Janet Napolitano
Arizona State Rep. Ed Ableser (D-Tempe)[214]
Arizona State Rep. Steve Gallardo (D-Phoenix)[214]
Arizona State Rep. Kyrsten Sinema (D-Phoenix)[214]
Tucson City Council Regina Romero[214]
Tucson City Council Nina Trasoff[214]
Tucson City Council Shirley Scott[214]
Tucson City Council Karin Uhlich[214]
Tucson City Council Steve Leal (Arizona)
Arizona State Rep. Steve Farley (D-Tucson)
Pima County Recorder F. Ann Rodriguez (D-Tucson)
Prior Arizona State Rep. Ted Downing (D-Tucson)
Congressman Raul Grijalva (D-Tucson)

[edit] Arkansas
Clerk of the Pulaski County circuit court Pat O'Brien (D-Little Rock)[215]

[edit] California
California State Sen. Gil Cedillo (D-Los Angeles)[216]
California State Sen. Alan Lowenthal (D-Long Beach)[191]
California State Sen. Mark Ridley-Thomas (D-Culver City)[217]
California State Sen. Leland Yee (D-San Francisco)[218]
Fmr. California State Sen. Martha Escutia (D-Los Angeles)[216]
California Assembly Speaker of the House- Elect Karen Bass (D-Los Angeles)[219]
California Assemblymember Ted Lieu (D-El Segundo)[86]
California Assemblymember Sandré Swanson (D-Alameda)[220]
Fmr. California Assemblymember Wilma Chan (D-Oakland)[221]
Member of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors Tom Ammiano[222]
West Hollywood City Councilman Jeffrey Prang[222]
West Hollywood Mayor John Duran[222]
Los Angeles County Supervisor and U.S. Fmr. Rep. Yvonne Brathwaite Burke[86]
Los Angeles City Council President Eric Garcetti[223]
Los Angeles City Councilman Bernard C. Parks[86]
Los Angeles City Councilman Bill Rosendahl[222]
Fmr. California State Controller Steve Westly[224]
San Francisco School Board member Jane Kim[225]

[edit] Connecticut
Connecticut State Rep. William Tong (D-Stamford, New Canaan)[226]
Connecticut State Treasurer Denise Nappier[227]

[edit] Delaware
Delaware Lt. Gov. John Carney (D)[228]
Delaware Treasurer Jack Markell (D)[229]

[edit] Florida
Florida State Rep. Keith Fitzgerald (D-Sarasota)[230]
Florida State Rep. Betty Reed (D-Tampa Bay)[231]
Sarasota City Commissioner Fredd Atkins[230]
Chair of the Tampa City Council Gwendolyn M. Miller[231]
Tampa City Councilwoman Mary Mulhern[231]
Tampa City Councilwoman Linda Saul-Sena[231]
New Smyrna Beach Councilman Robert E. Miller[231]

[edit] Georgia
Georgia State Sen. Kasim Reed (D-Atlanta)[232]

[edit] Hawaii
Hawaii State Sen. Russell S. Kokubun (D-Honolulu)[101]
Hawaii State Sen. Clarence K. Nishihara (D-Honolulu)[101]
Hawaii State Rep. Della Au Belatti (D-Honolulu)[101]
Hawaii State Rep. Jon Karamatsu (D-Honolulu)[101]
Hawaii State Rep. Scott Saiki (D-Honolulu)[101]
Fmr. Hawaii State Rep. Brian E. Schatz (D-Honolulu)[233]

[edit] Idaho
Idaho State Sen. David Langhorst (D-Boise), Senate Assistant Minority Leader[234]
Idaho State Sen. Clint Stennett, (D-Ketchum), Senate Minority Leader[234]
Idaho State Rep. Wendy Jaquet (D-Ketchum), House Minority Leader[234]
Idaho State Rep. Nicole LeFavour (D-Boise)[235]

[edit] Illinois
Illinois State Senate President and Sen. Emil Jones (D-Chicago)[236]
Illinois State Sen. James Clayborne, Jr. (D-Belleville)[236]
Illinois State Sen. Debbie Halvorson (D-Crete)[237]
Illinois State Sen. Rickey R. Hendon (D-Chicago)[236]
Illinois State Sen. Mattie Hunter (D-Chicago)[236]
Illinois State Sen. Kimberly A. Lightford (D-Chicago)[236]
Illinois State Sen. Iris Martinez (D-Chicago)[238]
Illinois State Sen. James Meeks (D-Chicago)[236]
Illinois State Sen. Kwame Raoul (D-Chicago) [236][239]
Illinois State Sen. Donne Trotter (D-Chicago)[236]
Fmr. Illinois State Sen. Patrick Welch (D-Peru)[237]
Illinois State Rep. Annazette Collins (D-Chicago)[236]
Illinois State Rep. Marlow H. Colvin (D-Chicago)[236]
Illinois State Rep. Monique D. Davis (D-Chicago)[236]
Illinois State Rep. William Davis (D-Homewood)[236]
Illinois State Rep. Lisa Dugan (D-Kankakee)[237]
Illinois State Rep. Kenneth Dunkin (D-Chicago)[236]
Illinois State Rep. Sara Feigenholtz (D-Chicago)[240]
Illinois State Rep. Mary E. Flowers (D-Chicago)[236]
Illinois State Rep. LaShawn Ford (D-Chicago)[236]
Illinois State Rep. Esther Golar (D-Chicago)[236]
Illinois State Rep. Careen Gordon (D-Coal City)[237]
Illinois State Rep. Deborah L. Graham (D-Chicago)[236]
Illinois State Rep. Constance A. Howard (D-Chicago)[236]
Illinois State Rep. Elga L. Jefferies (D-Chicago)[236]
Illinois State Rep. Charles E. Jefferson (D-Rockford)[236]
Illinois State Rep. Frank Mautino (D-Spring Valley)[237]
Illinois State Rep. Jack McGuire (D-Joliet)[237]
Illinois State Rep. David E. Miller (D-Calumet City)[236]
Illinois State Rep. Milton Patterson (D-Chicago)[236]
Illinois State Rep. Al Riley (D-Matteson)[236]
Illinois State Rep. Arthur Turner (D-Chicago)[236]
Illinois State Rep. Eddie Washington (D-Waukegan)[236]
Illinois State Rep. Karen Yarbrough (D-Maywood)[236]
Illinois State Rep. Wyvetter H. Younge (D-East St. Louis)[236]
Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan (D-Chicago)[241]
Illinois Secretary of State Jesse White (D-Alton)[242]
Illinois State Comptroller Daniel Hynes (D-Chicago)[243]
Margie Gavin Woods, Superdelegate, Minority Leader of the Will County Board and a member of the Democratic National Committee[244]

[edit] Indiana
Indiana State Sen. John Broden (South Bend)[245]
Indiana State Sen. Timothy Lanane (D-Anderson)[245]
Indiana State Sen. Lindel Hume (D-Princeton)[245]
Indiana State Sen. Earline S. Rogers (D-Gary)[246][245]
Indiana State Rep. Dennis Avery (D-Evansville)[245]
Indiana State Rep. Jeb Bardon (D-Indianapolis)[245]
Indiana State Rep. John Bartlett (D-Indianapolis)[245]
Indiana State Rep. Charlie Brown (D-Gary)[246][245]
Indiana State Rep. Bill Crawford (D-Indianapolis)[245]
Indiana State Rep. Dave Crooks (D-Washington)[245]
Indiana State Rep. John Day (D-Indianapolis)[245]
Indiana State Rep. Chet Dobis (D-Merrillville), Speaker Pro Tempore[245]
Indiana State Rep. Ryan Dvorak (D-South Bend)[245]
Indiana State Rep. Dale Grubb (D-Covington), Democratic Caucus Chair[245]
Indiana State Rep. Phil Hoy (D-Evansville)[245]
Indiana State Rep. Linda Lawson (D-Hammond)[245]
Indiana State Rep. Scott Pelath (D-Michigan City)[245]
Indiana State Rep. Matt Pierce (D-Bloomington)[245]
Indiana State Rep. Greg Porter (D-Indianapolis)[245]
Indiana State Rep. Mara Candelaria Reardon (D-Munster)[245]
Indiana State Rep. Scott Reske (D-Pendleton)[245]
Indiana State Rep. Vernon Smith (D-Gary)[245]
Indiana State Rep. Russ Stilwell (D-Boonville), Democratic Floor Leader[247][245]
Indiana State Rep. Vanessa Summers (D-Indianapolis)[245]
Indiana State Rep. Trent Van Haaften (D-Mount Vernon)[245]

[edit] Iowa
Iowa State Sen. Joe Bolkcom (D-Iowa City)[248]
Iowa State Sen. Robert Dvorsky (D-Coralville)[248][249]
Iowa State Sen. Bill Heckroth (D-Waverly)[248][250]
Iowa State Sen. Rich Olive (D-Story City)[248][251]
Iowa State Sen. Tom Rielly (D-Oskaloosa)[248][250]
Iowa State Sen. Steve Warnstadt (D-Sioux City)[248][249]
Iowa State Sen. Frank Wood (D-Eldridge)[248][251]
Iowa State Rep. Ako Abdul-Samad (D-Des Moines)[248]
Iowa State Rep. Deborah Berry (D-Waterloo)[248]
Iowa State Rep. Wayne Ford (D-Des Moines)[98]
Iowa State Rep. Elesha Gayman (D-Des Moines)[248][249]
Iowa State Rep. David Jacoby (D-Coralville)[248][249]
Iowa State Rep. Pam Jochum (D-Dubuque)[248][249]
Iowa State Rep. Helen Miller (D-Fort Dodge)[248][251]
Iowa State Rep. Donovan Olson (D-Boone)[248][249]
Iowa State Rep. Tyler Olson (D-Cedar Rapids)[248][249]
Iowa State Rep. Janet Petersen (D-Des Moines)[248][251][252]
Iowa State Rep. Brian Quirk (D-Des Moines)[248]
Iowa State Rep. Mark Smith (D-Marshalltown) [248][253]
Iowa Attorney General Tom Miller (D-Dubuque)[254]
Iowa State Treasurer Michael Fitzgerald[254]
Fmr. Chairman of the Iowa Democratic Party Gordon R. Fischer[255]
Story County Democratic Chair Jan Bauer[256]
Page County Democratic Chair Dennis Cole[256]
Guthrie County Democratic Chair John Cramer[256]
Benton County Democratic Chair Ron Donald[256]
Schilling-Greene County Democratic Chair Nicole Friess[256]
Hancock County Democratic Chair Gloria Goll[256]
Iowa County Democratic Chair Steve Hanson[256]
Franklin County Democratic Chair Vern Harper[256]
Carroll County Democratic Chair Howard "Butch" Heisterkamp[256]
Appanoose County Democratic Chair Jim Jameson[256]
Monroe County Democratic Chair Joe Judge[256]
Fremont County Democratic Chair Brian Kingsolver[256]
Humboldt County Democratic Chair Terry Kocker[256]
Boone County Democratic Chair Becky Lyon[256]
Lucas County Democratic Chair Buzz Malone[256]
Audubon County Democratic Chair Bob Nelson[256]
Van Buren County Democratic Chair Steve Prickett[256]
Winnebago County Democratic Chair John Ralls[256]
Sioux County Democratic Chair Carl Vandermeulen[256]
Pott County Democratic Chair Chuck Wredt[256]

[edit] Kansas
Kansas State Senate Minority Leader Anthony Hensley (D-Topeka)[257]
Kansas State Sen. Donald Betts (D-Wichita)[257]
Kansas State Sen. Marci Francisco (D-Lawrence)[257]
Kansas State Sen. David Haley (D-Kansas City)[257]
Kansas State Sen. Chris Steineger (D-Kansas City)[257]
Kansas State Rep. Paul Davis (D-Lawrence)[257]
Kansas State Rep. Oletha Faust-Goudeau (D-Wichita)[257]
Kansas State Rep. Tom Hawk (D-Manhattan)[257]
Kansas State Rep. Broderick Henderson (D-Kansas City)[257]
Kansas State Rep. Harold Lane (D-Topeka)[257]
Kansas State Rep. Melody McCray-Miller (D-Wichita)[257]
Kansas State Rep. Cindy Neighbor (D-Shawnee)[257]
Kansas State Rep. Candy Ruff (D-Leavenworth)[257]
Kansas State Rep. Valdenia Winn (D-Kansas City)[257]

[edit] Kentucky
State
Kentucky State Sen. Gerald Neal (D-Louisville)[258]
Kentucky State Sen. Ernesto Scorsone (D-Fayette)[106]
Fmr. Kentucky State Sen. Nicholas Kafoglis (D-Warren)[106]
Fmr. Kentucky State Sen. David Karem (D-Jefferson)[106]
Fmr. Kentucky State Sen. Michael Maloney (D-Fayette)[106]
Fmr. Kentucky State Sen. Danny Meyer (D-Oldham)[106]
Fmr. Kentucky State Sen. Georgia Powers (D-Jefferson)[106]
Fmr. Kentucky State Sen. Tim Shaughnessy (D-Jefferson)[106]
Kentucky State Rep. Jim Glenn (D-Daviess)[106]
Kentucky State Rep. Dennis Keene (D-Campbell)[106]
Kentucky State Rep. Reginald Meeks (D-Louisville)[258]
Kentucky State Rep. Darryl Owens (D-Jefferson)[106]
Kentucky State Rep. Ruth Ann Palumbo (D-Fayette)[106]
Kentucky State Rep. Jim Wayne (D-Jefferson)[106]
Kentucky State Rep. Susan Westrom (D-Fayette)[106]
Fmr. Kentucky State Rep. David Tandy[258]
Fmr. State Treasurer Jonathan Miller (D-Fayette)[106]
County
Fmr. Franklin County Judge William Graham (D-Franklin)[106]
County Judge Executive Darrell Link (D-Grant)[106]
County Judge Executive Billy O'Banion (D-Owen)[106]
Fmr. Circuit Judge Lewis Paisley (D-Fayette)[106]
Campbell County Commissioner, Ken Rechtin (D-Campbell)[106]
County Commonwealth Attorney Gordie Shaw (D-Woodford)[106]
City
Fmr. Louisville Councilman Bill Allison (D-Jefferson)[106]
Fmr. Councilwoman Denise Bentley (D-Jefferson)[106]
Elizabethtown City Council Member Anthony Bishop (D-Hardin)[106]
Fmr. City Council Member George Brown (D-Fayette)[106]
Councilwoman Cheri Bryant Hamilton (D-Jefferson)[106]
Louisville Councilman Tom Owen (D-Jefferson)[106]
Councilwoman Barbara Shanklin (D-Jefferson)[106]
Bardstown City Council Member Bill Sheckles (D-Nelson)[106]
Louisville Councilman David Tandy (D-Jefferson)[106]
Councilman George Unseld (D-Jefferson)[106]
Councilwoman Mary Woolridge (D-Jefferson)[106]

[edit] Louisiana
Louisiana State Sen. Lydia P. Jackson (D-Shreveport)[259]
Louisiana State Rep. Rick Gallot, Jr. (D-Ruston)[259]
Louisiana State Rep. Avon Honey (D-Baton Rouge)[259]
Louisiana State Rep. Karen Carter Peterson (D-New Orleans)[259]

[edit] Maine
Maine State House Speaker Glenn A. Cummings (D-Portland)[260]

[edit] Maryland
State
Maryland State Sen. James Brochin (D-Baltimore)[261]
Maryland State Sen. Joan Carter Conway (D-Baltimore City)[261]
Maryland State Sen. Ulysses Currie (D-Prince George's)[261]
Maryland State Sen. Nathaniel Exum (D-Prince George's)[261]
Maryland State Sen. Brian E. Frosh (D-Montgomery)[261]
Maryland State Sen. Robert J. Garagiola (D-Rockville)[262]
Maryland State Sen. Lisa Gladden (D-Baltimore) [261]
Maryland State Sen. David C. Harrington (D-Prince George's)[263]
Maryland State Sen. Verna L. Jones (D-Baltimore)[261]
Maryland State Sen. Delores G. Kelley (D-Baltimore)[261]
Maryland State Sen. Nathaniel J. McFadden (D-Baltimore)[261]
Maryland State Sen. Thomas M. Middleton (D-Charles) [261]
Maryland State Sen. C. Anthony Muse (D-Prince Geroge's) [261]
Maryland State Sen. Douglas JJ Peters (D-Prince George's)[261]
Maryland State Sen. Jamie Raskin (D-Montgomery)[261]
Maryland State Sen. James Robey (D-Howard) [261]
Maryland State Sen. Robert Zirkin (D-Baltimore)[264]
Maryland State Del. Curt Anderson (D-Chairman Baltimore City Delegation) [265]
Maryland State Del. Saqib Ali (D-Montgomery)[264]
Maryland State Del. and House Majority Leader Kumar P. Barve (D-Montgomery)[266]
Maryland State Del. Elizabeth Bobo (D-Howard)[264]
Maryland State Del. Talmadge Branch (D-Baltimore City) [265]
Maryland State Del. Aisha Braveboy (D-Prince George's)) [265]
Maryland State Del. William A. Bronrott (D-Montgomery) [265]
Maryland State Del. Emmett C. Burns, Jr. (D-Baltimore) [265]
Maryland State Del. Rudolph C. Cane (D-Eastern Shore) [265]
Maryland State Del. Jill P. Carter (D-Baltimore City)[264]
Maryland State Del. Ann Marie Doory (D-Baltimore City)[264]
Maryland State Del. Brian J. Feldman (D-Montgomery)[265]
Maryland State Del. William Frick (D-Montgomery)[265]
Maryland State Del. James W. Gilchrist (D-Montgomery)[265]
Maryland State Del. Cheryl Glenn (D-Baltimore City)[265]
Maryland State Del. Guy Guzzone (D-Howard)[265]
Maryland State Del. Hattie Harrison (D-Baltimore City)[265]
Maryland State Del. Keith E. Haynes (D-Baltimore City)[265]
Maryland State Del. Marvin E. Holmes, Jr. (D-Prince George's) [265]
Maryland State Del. James Hubbard (D-Prince George's)[265]
Maryland State Del. Tom Hucker (D-Montgomery) [265]
Maryland State Del. Jolene Ivey (D-Prince George's)[265]
Maryland State Del. Sue Kullen (D-Calvert)[265]
Maryland State Del. Gerron Levi (D-Prince George's)[265]
Maryland State Del. Dan K. Morhaim(D-Baltimore County)[265]
Maryland State Del. Nathaniel T. Oaks (D-Baltimore City) [265]
Maryland State Del. Joseline Pena-Melnyk (D-Prince George's)[261]
Maryland State Del. James Proctor (D-Prince George's)[265]
Maryland State Del. Kirill Reznik (D-Montgomery)[265]
Maryland State Del. Barbara Robinson (D-Baltimore City) [265]
Maryland State Del. Samuel I. Rosenberg (D-Baltimore City)[265]
Maryland State Del. Victor R. Ramirez (D-Prince George's)[267]
Maryland State Del. Justin Ross (D-Prince George's)[265]
Maryland State Del. Shawn Z. Tarrant (D-Baltimore City)[265]
Maryland State Del. Herman L. Taylor, Jr. (D-Montgomery) [265]
Maryland State Del. Veronica L. Turner (D-Prince George's)[265]
Maryland State Del. Jay Walker (D-Prince George's)[265]
Fmr. Maryland State Del. Gil Genn (D-Montgomery)[268]
Fmr. Maryland State Del. Joan Pitkin (D-Prince George's)[263]
Fmr. Maryland State Del. Gareth Murray (D-Montgomery)[264]
Fmr. Maryland State Del. Rushern Baker (D-Prince George's)[263]
Maryland Attorney General Doug Gansler[241][269]
Fmr. Attorney General Steve Sachs [262]
Maryland State Comptroller Peter Franchot (D-MD)[270][269]
Maryland State Board of Education Student Member Renford G. Freemantle[267]
County
Anne Arundel County Councilman Jamie Benoit [263]
Anne Arundel County Councilman Josh Cohen [264]
Anne Arundel County Councilman Daryl Jones [264]
Baltimore County Councilman Ken Oliver[267]
Baltimore County Councilman Vince Gardinia [264]
Calvert Board of County Commissioners President Wilson Parran[267]
Charles County Commissioner Reuben Collins II[267]
Harford County Councilwoman Mary Ann Lisanti[262]
Howard County Councilman Calvin Ball[267]
Howard County Councilwoman Jennifer Terrasa[267]
Howard County Councilmember Kenneth Ulman[261]
Montgomery County Councilman Roger Berliner[267]
Montgomery County Councilman Marc Elrich [264]
Montgomery County Council Chair Michael Knapp [264]
Montgomery County Board of Education Member Stephen Abrams[267]
Montgomery County Board of Education Member Chris Barclay[267]
Montgomery County Board of Education Member Dr. Judy Docca[267]
Montgomery County Board of Education Member Ben Moskowitz[267]
Prince George's County Councilman William Campos [264]
Prince George's County Councilman Samuel Dean[267]
Prince George's County Councilwoman Camille Exum [267]
Prince George's County Councilman Tony Knotts[267]
Prince George's County Councilman Eric Olson[267]
Prince George's County State's Attorney Glenn F. Ivey[267]
Prince George's County Sheriff Michael Jackson[267]
Prince George's County Board of Education Member Pat Fletcher[267]
Prince George's County Board of Education Member Heather Iliff[267]
Queen Anne's County Commissioner Courtney Billups [267]
Queen Anne's County Commissioner Gene Ransom[267]
Local
Annapolis Alderwoman Sheila Finlayson[267]
Annapolis Alderwoman Classie Gillis Hoyle [267][271]
Annapolis Alderman Sam Shropshire[264]
Baltimore City State's Attorney Pat Jessamy [262]
Baltimore City Council President Stephanie Rawlings Blake[267]
Baltimore City Councilman William B. Henry[263]
Baltimore City Councilwoman Helen Holton [263]
Baltimore City Councilwoman Sharon Middleton [264]
Fmr. Baltimore City Councilman Keiffer J. Mitchell, Jr. [263]
Bowie Town Councilman Dennis Brady[267]
Fmr. Centerville Town Council President Mary McCarthy[262]
Cheverly Town Councilman Micah Watson[267]
College Park City Councilman Mark Cook[267]
Easton Town Councilwoman Moonyene Jackson-Amis[267]
Gaithersburg City Councilman Ryan Spiegel[267]
Laurel Town Council Chairman Fred Smalls[267]
Pocomoke City Councilwoman Tracey Cottman[262]
Gustavo Torres, Executive Director, CASA de Maryland*[267]
Democratic nominee for Maryland's 4th congressional district Donna Edwards[272]

[edit] Massachusetts
Massachusetts State Sen. Benjamin Downing (D-Pittsfield)[273]
Massachusetts State Sen. Dianne Wilkerson (D-Boston)[273]
Massachusetts State Rep. Jamie Eldridge (D-Acton)[273]
Massachusetts State Rep. Linda Dorcena Forry (D-Boston)[273]
Massachusetts State Rep. John H. Rogers (D-Norwood)[273]
Massachusetts State Rep. Michael F. Rush (D-Boston)[273]
Boston City Council Councilman Michael F. Flaherty[274]
Boston City Councilman Michael P. Ross[275]
Boston City Councilman Charles Yancey[273]
Boston City Councilman Sam Yoon[276]

[edit] Michigan
Michigan State Sen. Hansen Clarke (D-Detroit)[277]
Michigan State Rep. Bert Johnson (D-Highland Park)[277]
Michigan State Rep. Aldo Vagnozzi (D-Farmington Hills)[277]
Michigan State Rep. Coleman Young II (D-Detroit)[277]

[edit] Minnesota
Minnesota State Sen. Terri Bonoff (D-Hopkins)[278]
Minnesota State Sen. Dick Cohen (D-Saint Paul)[278]
Minnesota State Sen. John Marty (D-Roseville)[278]
Minnesota State Sen. Katie Sieben (D-Newport)[278]
Minnesota State Sen. Patricia Torres Ray (D-Minneapolis)[278]
Minnesota State Rep. John Benson (D-Minnetonka)[278]
Minnesota State Rep. Augustine 'Willie' Dominguez[278]
Minnesota State Rep. Tim Faust (D-Mora)[278]
Minnesota State Rep. Frank Hornstein[278]
Minnesota State Rep. Mike Jaros[278]
Minnesota State Rep. John Lesch[278]
Duluth Council Member Tony Cuneo[278]
Minneapolis Council Member Elizabeth Glidden[278]
Minneapolis Council Member Betsy Hodges[278]
Minneapolis Council Member Robert Lilligren[278]
Minneapolis Council Member Paul Ostrow[278]
Minneapolis Council Member Ralph Remington[278]
Minneapolis Council Member Don Samuels[278]
St. Paul Council Member Russ Stark[278]
St. Paul Council Member Pat Harris[278]

[edit] Missouri
Missouri State Auditor Susan Montee[279]

[edit] Montana
Montana State Sen. Larry Jent (D-Bozeman)[280]
Montana State Sen. Jesse Laslovich (D-Anaconda)[280]
Montana State Sen. Greg Lind (D-Missoula)[280]
Montana State Sen. Don Ryan (D-Great Falls)[280]
Montana State Sen. Frank Smith (D-Poplar)[280]
Montana State Sen. Dave Wanzenreid (D-Missoula)[280]
Montana State Rep. Mary Caferro (D-Helena)[280]
Montana State Rep. Bob Ebinger (D-Livingston)[280]
Montana State Rep. Ron Erickson (D-Missoula)[280]
Montana State Rep. Dave Gallik (D-Helena)[280]
Montana State Rep. Galen Hollenbaugh (D-Helena)[280]
Montana State Rep. Jim Keane (D-Butte)[280]
Montana State Rep. Dave McAlpin (D-Missoula), Minority Whip[280]
Montana State Rep. Mike Phillips (D-Bozeman)[280]
Montana State Rep. Michele Reinhart (D-Missoula)[280]
Montana State Rep. Kendall Van Dyk (D-Billings)[280]
Montana State Rep. Jonathan Windy Boy (D-Box Elder), also a councilman for the Chippewa Cree Tribe[280]
Fmr. Montana State Sen. Steve Doherty (D-Great Falls)[280]
Fmr. Montana State Rep. Paul Clark (D-Trout Creek)[280]
Fmr. Montana State Rep. Eve Franklin (D-Great Falls)[280]
Fmr. Montana State Rep. Ray Peck (D-Havre)[280]
Fmr. Montana State Rep. Bill Whitehead (D-Wolf Point)[280]
Fmr. Montana Supreme Court Justice Terry Trieweiler[280]
Fmr. Montana Supreme Court Justice Jim Regnier[280]
Supreme Court Clerk Ed Smith[280]
Montana Public Service Commissioner Ken Toole[280]
Montana Public Service Commissioner Greg Jergeson[280]
Montana Public Service Commissioner Bob Raney[280]
James Steele Jr., chairman of the Confederated Salish and Kootenai Tribes[280]
Lewis and Clark County Commissioner Andy Hunthausen[280]
Lewis and Clark County Commissioner Ed Tinsley, a superdelegate[280]
Roosevelt County attorney Ryan Rusche[280]
Missoula City Council member Dave Strohmaier[280]
Missoula City Council member Jason Weiner[280]
Missoula City Council member Pam Walzer[280]

[edit] Nebraska
Democratic State Chairman Steve Achelpohl[281]
Chairman of the Democratic National Committee's Native American Caucus in Nebraska Frank LaMere[282]
National Committeewoman Kathleen Fahey of Omaha[281]
National Committeeman Vince Powers of Lincoln[281]

[edit] Nevada
Nevada State Sen. Steven Horsford (D-North Las Vegas)[283]
Nevada State Sen. Mike Schneider (D-Las Vegas)[284]
Fmr. Nevada State Sen. Helen Foley[285]
Nevada Assemblymember Kelvin Atkinson (D-North Las Vegas)[286]
Nevada Assemblymember Mo Denis (D-Las Vegas)[287]
Nevada Assemblymember Marilyn Kirkpatrick (D-Las Vegas)[286]
Nevada Assemblymember Sheila Leslie (D-Reno)[283]
Nevada Assemblymember Harvey Munford (D-Las Vegas)[285]

[edit] New Hampshire
New Hampshire State Sen. Martha Fuller Clark (D-Portsmith) [277]
New Hampshire State Sen. Jacalyn Cilley (D-Berlin)[277]
New Hampshire State Sen. Harold Janeway (D-Webster)[277]
New Hampshire State Rep. Margaret Porter (D-Epsom)[277]
New Hampshire State Rep. Kris Roberts (D-Keene)[277]
New Hampshire State Rep. Cindy Rosenwald (D-Nashua)[277]
New Hampshire State Rep. Tara Sad (D-Wapole)[277]
New Hampshire State Rep. Kimberley Casey (D-East Kingston)[277]
New Hampshire State Rep. Eileen Flockhart (D-Exeter)[277]
New Hampshire State Rep. John Henson (D-Exeter)[277]
New Hampshire State Rep. Jeffrey Fontas (D-Nashua)[277]
New Hampshire State Rep. Sarah Hutz (D-Dover)[277]
New Hampshire State Rep. Lucy Weber (D-Wapole)[277]
New Hampshire State Rep. Nickolas Levasseur (D-Manchester)[277]
New Hampshire State Rep. Jesse Martineau (D-Manchester)[277]
New Hampshire State Rep. Dennis Abbott (D-Newmarket)[277]
New Hampshire State Rep. Susan Almy (D-Lebanon)[277]
New Hampshire State Rep. Deborah Billian (D-Rochester)[277]
New Hampshire State Rep. Elizabeth Blanchard (D-Concord)[277]
New Hampshire State Rep. David Borden (D-New Castle)[277]
New Hampshire State Rep. Carla Skinder (D-Cornish)[277]
New Hampshire State Rep. Nancy Warren (D-Rochester)[277]
New Hampshire State Rep. Pennington Brown (D-Epping)[277]
New Hampshire State Rep. Shawn Mickelonis (D-Rochester)[277]
New Hampshire State Rep. Bonnie Mitchell (D-Jaffrey)[277]
New Hampshire State Rep. Kay Oppenheimer (D-Strafford)[277]
New Hampshire State Rep. James Powers (D-Exeter)[277]
New Hampshire State Rep. Jane Kelley (D-Hampton)[277]
New Hampshire State Rep. Sally Kelly (D-Chichester)[277]
New Hampshire State Rep. James Kennedy (D-Exeter)[277]
New Hampshire State Rep. Sid Lovett (D-Holderness)[277]
New Hampshire State Rep. Edward Butler (D-Hart's Location)[277]
New Hampshire State Rep. Jennifer Daler (D-Temple)[277]
Cultural Resources Commissioner Van MacLeod (D)
Cheshire County Commissioner Jack Pratt (D)
Former Health & Human Services Commissioner Ned Helms (D)
Keene City Councilor Jim Duffy (D)
Keene City Councilor Nathaniel Stout (D)
Portsmouth City Councilor Ned Raynolds (D)
Manchester Alderman Peter Sullivan (D)
Manchester School Committeewoman Jennifer Peabody (I)
Chair of the Rockingham County Democratic Committee Lenore Patton[288]

[edit] New Jersey
State
New Jersey State Sen. John Adler (D-Cherry Hill)[289]
New Jersey State Sen. Sandra Bolden Cunningham (D-Jersey City)[289]
New Jersey State Sen. Fred Madden (D-Camden/Gloucester)[290]
New Jersey State Sen. Dana Redd (D-Camden) and DNC Member
New Jersey State Sen. Stephen M. Sweeney (D-Gloucester/Salem/Cumberland), Majority Leader[290]
New Jersey State Sen. Shirley Turner (D-Lawrence)[291]
New Jersey State Sen. Loretta Weinberg (D-Teaneck)[289]
New Jersey Assemblymember Neil M. Cohen (D-Union)[185]
New Jersey Assemblymember Elease Evans (D-Paterson)[289]
New Jersey Assemblymember Linda R. Greenstein (D-Plainsboro)[291]
New Jersey Assemblymember Mila Jasey (D-South Orange)[292]
New Jersey Assemblymember Gordon M. Johnson (D-Englewood)[289]
New Jersey Assemblymember and Washington Township Mayor Paul Moriarty (D-Washington Township)[290]
New Jersey Assemblymember L. Harvey Smith (D-Jersey City)[293]
New Jersey Assemblymember L. Grace Spencer (D-Hillside and Newark)[293]
New Jersey Assemblymember Cleopatra Tucker (D-Newark)[293]
County
Burlington County Democratic Party Chairman Richard J. Perr[290]
Camden County Democratic Party Co-Chair & DNC Member Donald Norcross[290]
Camden County Democratic Party Co-Chair James Beach[290]
Fmr. Camden County Democratic Party Chairman George E. Norcross, III[290]
Gloucester County Democratic Party Chairman Michael Angelini[290]
Local
Atlantic City Councilwoman Joyce J. Mollineaux[289]
Atlantic City Councilman Marty Small[289]
Camden City Mayor Gwendolyn Faison[290]
Hillside, New Jersey City Councilwoman Shelley-Ann Bates[289]
Margate, New Jersey City Councilwoman Mary M. Slomine[289]
Minor Logan, New Jersey City Councilman Frank Wayne[289]
Poughkeepsie City Councilwoman Gwen C. Johnson[294]
Vineland, New Jersey City Councilman Richard T. Smith[289]

[edit] New Mexico
New Mexico State Rep. Joseph Cervantes (D-Las Cruces)[295]
New Mexico State Rep. Nathan P. Cote (D-Las Cruces)[295]
New Mexico State Rep. Antonio Luján (D-Las Cruces)[295]
New Mexico State Majority Leader Rep. W. Ken Martinez (D-Las Cruces)[295]

[edit] New York
New York State Sen. Eric Adams (D-Brooklyn)[296]
New York State Sen. Bill Perkins (D-Harlem)[297]
New York State Sen. John L. Sampson (D-Brooklyn)[298]
New York Assemblymember Karim Camara (D-Brooklyn)[296]
New York Assemblymember Hakeem Jeffries (D-Brooklyn)[296]
Young Democrats Club of Pelham (Non-Profit Organization) [296]
New York City Councilman Albert Vann (D-Brooklyn)[298]
Preeta D. Bansal, former Solicitor General of the State of New York (D-NY)[149]

[edit] North Carolina
North Carolina Lt. Governor Beverly Perdue, candidate for Governor[299]
North Carolina State Treasurer Richard H. Moore, candidate for Governor[300]
North Carolina State Sen. Doug Berger (D-Youngsville)[301]
North Carolina State Sen. Charlie Dannelly (D-Raleigh)[301]
North Carolina State Sen. Katie Dorsett (D-Raleigh)[301]
North Carolina State Sen. Anthony Foriest (D-Graham)[301]
North Carolina State Sen. Linda Garrou (D-Winston-Salem)[301]
North Carolina State Sen. Malcolm Graham (D-Charlotte)[301]
North Carolina State Sen. Clark Jenkins (D-Tarboro)[301]
North Carolina State Sen. Edward Jones (D-Raleigh)[301]
North Carolina State Sen. Eleanor Kinnaird (D-Carrboro)[301]
North Carolina State Sen. Vernon Malone (D-Raleigh)[301]
North Carolina State Sen. Floyd McKissick, Jr. (D-Raleigh)[301]
North Carolina State Sen. Tony Rand (D-Fayetteville), Senate Majority Leader[301]
North Carolina State Rep. Alma Adams (D-Greensboro)[301]
North Carolina State Rep. Dan Blue (D-Raleigh), fmr. Speaker of the House[301]
North Carolina State Rep. Angela Bryant (D-Rocky Mount)[301]
North Carolina State Rep. Becky Carney (D-Charlotte)[301]
North Carolina State Rep. Bill Faison (D-Durham)[301]
North Carolina State Rep. Jean Farmer-Butterfield (D-Wilson)[301]
North Carolina State Rep. Rick Glazier (D-Fayetteville)[301]
North Carolina State Rep. Larry Hall (D-Durham)[301]
North Carolina State Rep. Ty Harrell (D-Raleigh)[301]
North Carolina State Rep. Pricey Harrison (D-Greensboro)[301]
North Carolina State Rep. Sandra Hughes (D-Wilmington)[301]
North Carolina State Rep. Marvin Lucas (D-Spring Lake)[301]
North Carolina State Rep. Grier Martin (D-Raleigh)[301]
North Carolina State Rep. Annie Mobley (D-Ahoskie)[301]
North Carolina State Rep. Henry Michaux, Jr. (D-Durham)[301]
North Carolina State Rep. Edith Warren (D-Farmville)[301]
North Carolina State Rep. Michael Wray (D-Gaston)[301]
Fmr. State Rep. Phil Baddour (D), fmr. House Democratic Leader[207]
Fmr. State Supreme Court Chief Justice Henry Frye[207]

[edit] North Dakota
North Dakota State Sen. Art Behm (D-Niagara)[302]
North Dakota State Sen. Tom Fiebiger (D-Fargo)[302]
North Dakota State Sen. Joan Heckaman (D-New Rockford)[302]
North Dakota State Sen. Joel Heitkamp (D-Hankinson)[302]
North Dakota State Sen. Aaron Krauter (D-Regent)[302]
North Dakota State Sen. Richard Marcellais (D-Belcourt)[302]
North Dakota State Sen. Carolyn Nelson (D-Fargo), Assistant Minority Leader[302]
North Dakota State Sen. David O'Connell (D-Lansford), Minority Leader[302]
North Dakota State Sen. Jim Pomeroy (D-Fargo)[302]
North Dakota State Sen. Tracy Potter (D-Bismarck)[302]
North Dakota State Sen. Ryan Taylor (D-Towner)[302]
North Dakota State Sen. John Warner (D-Ryder)[302]
North Dakota State Rep. Tracy Boe (D-Milo)[302]
North Dakota State Rep. Mary Ekstrom (D-Fargo)[302]
North Dakota State Rep. Rod Froelich (D-Selfridge)[302]
North Dakota State Rep. Eliot Glassheim (D-Grand Forks)[302]
North Dakota State Rep. Chris Griffin (D-Larimore)[302]
North Dakota State Rep. Ed Gruchalla (D-Fargo)[302]
North Dakota State Rep. Pam Gulleson (D-Rutland)[302]
North Dakota State Rep. Lyle Hanson (D-Jamestown)[302]
North Dakota State Rep. Scot Kelsh (D-Fargo)[302]
North Dakota State Rep. Joe Kroeber (D-Jamestown)[302]
North Dakota State Rep. Ralph Metcalf (D-Valley City)[302]
North Dakota State Rep. Louis Pinkerton (D-Minot)[302]
North Dakota State Rep. Arlo Schmidt (D-Maddock)[302]
North Dakota State Rep. Jasper Schneider (D-Fargo)[302]
North Dakota State Rep. Dorvan Solberg (D-Ray)[302]
North Dakota State Rep. Lisa Wolf (D-Minot)[302]
North Dakota State Rep. Steve Zaiser (D-Fargo)[302]

[edit] Ohio
Ohio State Sen. Capri Cafaro (D-Youngstown)[303]
Ohio State Sen. Eric Kearney (D-Cincinnati)[204]
Ohio State Sen. Tom Roberts (D-Dayton)[204]
Ohio State Sen. Tom Sawyer (D-Akron) [304]
Ohio State Sen. Shirley Smith (D-Cleveland)[304]
Ohio State Rep. Jennifer Brady (D-Cleveland)[304]
Ohio State Rep. Ted Celeste (D-Columbus)[304]
Ohio State Rep. Robert Hagan (D-Youngstown)[304]
Ohio State Rep. Tom Letson (D-Warren)[204]
Ohio State Rep. Clayton Luckie (D-Dayton)[304]
Ohio State Rep. Dan Stewart (D-Columbus)[304]
Ohio State Rep. Vernon Sykes (D-Akron)[204]
Ohio State Rep. Sandra Williams (D-Cleveland)[304]
Ohio State Rep. Tyrone Yates (D-Cincinnati)[204]
Ohio State State Treasurer Richard Cordray (D-OH)[305]
Chairman of the Cuyahoga County Democratic Party Tim Hagan[204]
Cuyahoga County Commissioner President Peter Lawson Jones[204]

[edit] Oklahoma
Oklahoma State Sen. Tom Adelson (D-Tulsa)[306][307]
Oklahoma State Sen. Andrew Rice (D-Oklahoma City)[citation needed]
Oklahoma State Rep. Jabar Shumate (D-Tulsa)[307]
Oklahoma State Rep. Ryan Dean Kiesel (D-Seminole)[307]

[edit] Oregon
Oregon State Sen. Alan Bates (D-Ashland)[37]
Oregon State Sen. Margaret Carter, Senate President Pro Tem (D-Portland)[37]
Oregon State Sen. Avel Gordly (D-Portland)[37]
Oregon State Sen. Floyd Prozanski (D-South Lane and North Douglas Counties)[37]
Oregon State Sen. Ben Westlund (D-Tumalo)[37]
Oregon State Rep. Jeff Barker (D-Aloha)[37]
Oregon State Rep. Phil Barnhart (D-Central Lane and Linn Counties)[37]
Oregon State Rep. Suzanne Bonamici (D-Washington County)[37]
Oregon State Rep. Peter Buckley (D-Ashland)[37]
Oregon State Rep. Ben Cannon (D-Portland)[37]
Oregon State Rep. Brian Clem (D-Salem)[37]
Oregon State Rep. Chris Edwards (D-West Eugene, Santa Clara, Junction City, Cheshire & Alvadore)[37]
Oregon State Rep. David Edwards (D-Hillsboro)[37]
Oregon State Rep. Larry Galizio (D-Tigard)[37]
Oregon State Rep. Paul Holvey (D-Eugene)[37]
Oregon State Rep. Betty Komp (D-Woodburn)[37]
Oregon State Rep. Tina Kotek (D-North/NE Portland)[37]
Oregon State Rep. Jeff Merkley, House Speaker[37]
Oregon State Rep. Mary Nolan (D-Portland)[37]
Oregon State Rep. Tobias Read (D-Beaverton)[37]
Oregon State Rep. Diane Rosenbaum, House Speaker Pro Tem[37]
Oregon State Rep. Mike Schaufler (D-Happy Valley)[37]
Oregon State Rep. Chip Shields (D-Portland)[37]
Oregon State Rep. Brad Witt (D-Clatskanie)[37]
State Treasurer Randall Edwards (D-Portland)[37]
Superintendent of Public Instruction Susan Castillo (D-Eugene)[37]

[edit] Pennsylvania
Pennsylvania State Sen. Lisa Boscola (D-Lehigh Valley)[308]
Pennsylvania State Sen. Vincent Hughes (D-Philadelphia), Caucus Secretary[308][309]
Pennsylvania State Sen. Shirley Kitchen (D-Philadelphia)[309]
Pennsylvania State Sen. Robert J. Mellow (D-Lackawanna), Minority Floor Leader[308]
Pennsylvania State Sen. Anthony H. Williams (D-Philadelphia)[308]
Pennsylvania State Rep. Mark B. Cohen (D-Philadelphia)[310]
Pennsylvania State Rep. Harold James (D-Pittsburgh)[309]
Pennsylvania State Rep. Tony Payton (D-Pittsburgh)[309]
Pennsylvania State Rep. Joseph Preston Jr. (D-Pittsburgh)[311]
Pennsylvania State Rep. Josh Shapiro (D-Montgomery)[308][312]
Pennsylvania State Rep. Chelsa Wagner (D-Pittsburgh)[308][311]
Pennsylvania State Rep. Jewell Williams (D-Pittsburgh)[309]
Philadelphia City Council Member Jannie Blackwell[309]
Philadelphia City Council Member W. Wilson Goode, Jr.[309][313]
Philadelphia City Council Member Bill Green[309]
Philadelphia City Council Member Curtis Jones[309]
Philadelphia City Council Member James F. "Jim" Kenney[309]
Philadelphia City Council Member Donna Reed-Miller[309]
Philadelphia City Council President Anna C. Verna[314]
Fmr. Philadelphia City Council Member Carol Ann Campbell, Superdelegate [315]
Pittsburgh City Council Member Bruce Kraus[308]
Pittsburgh City Council Member Patrick Dowd[308]
Pittsburgh City Council Member Doug Shields, President[308]
President, Upper Dublin Board of Commissioners (Montgomery County) Jules Mermelstein[316]
DNC member Leon Lynch[317]

[edit] Rhode Island
Rhode Island Attorney General Patrick C. Lynch[318]

[edit] South Carolina
South Carolina State Sen. Glenn G. Reese (D-Inman)[319]
South Carolina State Rep. Joseph H. Jefferson (D-Pineville)[277]
South Carolina State Rep. J. Todd Rutherford (D-Columbia) [277]
South Carolina State Rep. Bakari Sellers (D-Denmark) [277]
Fmr. South Carolina Supreme Court Chief Justice Ernest A. Finney, Jr. [320]
Fmr. South Carolina Superintendent of Education Inez Tenenbaum[321]
Fmr. Chairman of the South Carolina Democratic Party Joe Erwin[322][323]

[edit] South Dakota
South Dakota State Sen. Julie Bartling (D-Burke)[324]
South Dakota State Sen. Gary Hanson (D-Sisseton)[324]
South Dakota State Sen. Scott Heidepriem (D-Sioux Falls), Minority Leader[324]
South Dakota State Sen. Alan Hoerth (D-Burke)[324]
South Dakota State Sen. Jim Hundstad (D-Bath)[324]
South Dakota State Sen. Sandy Jerstad (D-Sioux Falls)[324]
South Dakota State Sen. Tom Katus (D-Rapid City)[324]
South Dakota State Sen. Frank Kloucek (D-Scotland)[324]
South Dakota State Sen. Ryan Maher (D-Isabel)[324]
South Dakota State Sen. Ben Nesselhuf (D-Vermillion)[324]
South Dakota State Sen. Jim Peterson (D-Revillo)[324]
South Dakota State Sen. Nancy Turbak Berry (D-Watertown)[324]
South Dakota State Sen. Theresa Two Bulls (D-Pine Ridge)[324]
South Dakota State Rep. Jim Bradford (D-Pine Ridge)[324]
South Dakota State Rep. Quinten Burg (D-Wessington Springs)[324]
South Dakota State Rep. H. Paul Dennert (D-Columbia)[324]
South Dakota State Rep. Richard Engels (D-Hartford)[324]
South Dakota State Rep. David Gassman (D-Canova)[324]
South Dakota State Rep. Clayton Halverson (D-Veblen)[324]
South Dakota State Rep. Dale Hargens (D-Miller), Minority Leader[324]
South Dakota State Rep. Larry Lucas (D-Mission)[324]
South Dakota State Rep. Garry Moore (D-Yankton)[324]
South Dakota State Rep. Eldon Nygaard (D-Vermillion)[324]
South Dakota State Rep. Bill Thompson (D-Sioux Falls)[324]
South Dakota State Rep. Tom Van Norman (D-Eagle Butte)[324]

[edit] Texas
Texas State Sen. Rodney Ellis (D-Fort Bend, Harris)[64]
Texas State Sen. and Fmr. Austin, Texas Mayor Kirk Watson (D-Austin)[325]
Texas State Sen. Royce West (D-Dallas)[326]
Texas State Rep. Roberto R. Alonzo (D-Dallas)[327]
Texas State Rep. Rafael Anchia (D-Dallas)[327]
Texas State Rep. Garnet Coleman (D-Houston)[328]
Texas State Rep. Yvonne Davis (D-Dallas)[328]
Texas State Rep. Jim Dunnam (D-Waco)[329]
Texas State Rep. Jessica Farrar (D-Houston)[330]
Texas State Rep. Pete Gallego (D-Alpine), chairman of the Mexican American Legislative Caucus[331]
Texas State Rep. Juan M. Garcia (D-Corpus Christi)[64]
Texas State Rep. Ana Hernandez (D-Houston)[328]
Texas State Rep. Eddie Lucio III (D-Brownsville)[332]
Texas State Rep. Dora Olivo (D-Richmond)[64]
Texas State Rep. Mark Strama (D-Austin)[333]
Texas State Rep. Senfronia Thompson (D-Houston)[334]
Houston City Council member Peter Brown[328]
Houston City Council member Ronald Green[328]
Fort Worth City Council member Kathleen Hicks[citation needed]
Fmr. Texas Agriculture Commissioner Jim Hightower[335]
Commissioner of Brownsville, Texas Charlie Atkinson (District 2)[175]
Commissioner of Brownsville, Texas Edward Camarillo (District 4)[175]
Cameron County, Texas Commissioner David Garza[175]
Fmr. Harlingen, Texas Commissioner Heriberto "Eddie" Medrano[175]
Fmr. Harlingen, Texas Commissioner Frank Puente[175]
Fmr. Brownsville, Texas Commissioner Ernesto De Leon[211]

[edit] Utah
Utah State Sen. Gene Davis (D-Salt Lake City) Senate Minority Whip[336]
Utah State Sen. Scott McCoy (D-Salt Lake City)[336]
Utah State Rep. Lynn Hemingway (D-Salt Lake City)[336]
Utah State Rep. Christine Johnson (D-Salt Lake City)[336]
Utah State Rep. Brad King (D-Price) House Minority Leader[336]
Utah State Rep. David Litvack (D-Salt Lake City) House Minority Whip[336]
Utah State Rep. Phil Riesen (D-Salt Lake City) Minority Caucus Manager & Utah State Rep. for Obama for America[336]
Utah State Rep. Jen Seelig (D-Salt Lake City)[336]
Utah State Rep. Carol Spackman Moss (D-Salt Lake City) Minority Assistant Whip[336]
Utah State Rep. Mark Wheatley (D-Murray)[336]
Utah State Rep. Larry Wiley (D-West Valley City)[336]
Utah State Democratic Party Chairman Wayne Holland[337]

[edit] Vermont
Vermont Attorney General William Sorrell[241]

[edit] Virginia
Virginia State Sen. John S. Edwards (D-Roanoke)[338]
Virginia State Sen. Mark Herring (D-Loudoun County)[338]
Virginia State Sen. Edd Houck (D-Spotsylvania)[339]
Virginia State Sen. Janet Howell (D-Fairfax)[339]
Virginia State Sen. and Fmr. Hampton, Virginia Mayor Mamie Locke (D-Hampton)[338]
Virginia State Sen. Louise Lucas (D-Portsmouth)[339]
Virginia State Sen. A. Donald McEachin (D-Richmond)[339]
Virginia State Sen. Henry L. Marsh (D-Richmond)[338]
Virginia State Sen. Ralph Northam (D-Norfolk)[338]
Virginia State Sen. Toddy Puller (D-Fairfax)[339][339]
Virginia State Del. Kenneth Cooper Alexander (D-Norfolk)[277]
Virginia State Del. Robert H. Brink (D-Arlington)[277]
Virginia State Del. Ward Armstrong (D-Portsmouth)[340]
Virginia State Del. Kristen J. Amundson (D-Mount Vernon)[277]
Virginia State Del. Mamye BaCote (D-Newport News)[341]
Virginia State Del. David L. Englin (D-Alexandria)[277]
Virginia State Del. Robert D. Hull (D-Falls Church)[277]
Virginia State Del. Dwight Clinton Jones (D-Richmond)[277]
Virginia State Del. Dave W. Marsden (D-Burke)[277]
Virginia State Del. Jennifer McClellan (D-Richmond)[342]
Virginia State Del. Kenneth R. Melvin (D-Portsmouth)[277]
Virginia State Del. Joseph D. Morrissey (D-Richmond)[277]
Virginia State Del. Paul F. Nichols (D-Lake Ridge)[277]
Virginia State Del. Kenneth R. Plum (D-Reston)[277]
Virginia State Del. James M. Scott (D-Fairfax)[277]
Virginia State Del. Mark D. Sickles (D-Franconia)[277]
Virginia State Del. Shannon R. Valentine (D-Lynchburg)[277]
Virginia State Del. Onzlee Ware (D-Roanoke)[340]
Virginia State Del. Vivian E. Watts (D-Annandale)[277]
Chair of the Hampton Democratic Committee Gaylene Kanoyton[341]

[edit] Washington
Washington State Senate Majority Leader Lisa Brown (D-Spokane)[343]
Washington State Sen. Rosa Franklin (D-Tacoma) [343]
Washington State Sen. Brian Hatfield (D-Raymond)[343]
Washington State Sen. Ken Jacobsen (D-Seattle)[343]
Washington State Sen. Claudia Kauffman (D-Kent)[343]
Washington State Sen. Derek Kilmer (D-Gig Harbor)[343]
Washington State Sen. Adam Kline (D-Seattle)[343]
Washington State Sen. Mary Margaret Haugen (D-Camano Island)[343]
Washington State Sen. Chris Marr (D-Spokane)[343]
Washington State Sen. Rosemary McAuliffe (D-Seattle)[343]
Washington State Sen. and Senate Democratic Caucus Vice-Chair Ed Murray (D-Seattle)[343]
Washington State Sen. Eric Oemig (D-Kirkland)[343]
Washington State Sen. Craig Pridemore (D-Vancouver)[343]
Washington State Sen. Tim Sheldon (D-Potlatch)[343]
Washington State Rep. Maralyn Chase (D-Shoreline)[343]
Washington State House Speaker Frank Chopp (D-Seattle)[344]
Washington State Rep. Mary Lou Dickerson (D-Seattle)[343]
Washington State Rep. Deborah Eddy (D-Bellevue)[343]
Washington State Rep. Bob Hasegawa (D-Seattle)[343]
Washington State Rep. Christopher Hurst (D-King County)[343]
Washington State Rep. Fred Jarrett (D-Bellevue)[343]
Washington State Rep. Patricia Lantz (D-Bremerton)[343]
Washington State Rep. John McCoy (D-Everett)[343]
Washington State Rep. Jamie Pedersen (D-Seattle)[343]
Washington State Rep. Eric Pettigrew (D-Seattle)[343]
Washington State Rep. Dave Quall (D-Mt. Vernon/Bellingham)[343]
Washington State Rep. Geoff Simpson (D-King County)[343]
Washington State Rep. Larry Springer (D-Kirkland/Redmond)[343]
Washington State Rep. Dave Upthegrove (D-Southern King County)[343]
Washington State Rep. Brendan Williams (D-Olympia)[343]

[edit] Washington, D.C.
Council member Yvette Alexander (Ward 7)[212]
Council member Muriel Bowser (Ward 4)[212]
Council member Tommy Wells (Ward 6)[212]

[edit] West Virginia
Fairmont Councilmember Matthew S. Delligatti[345]

[edit] Wisconsin
Wisconsin State Sen. Bob Jauch (D-Poplar)[346]
Wisconsin State Assemblymember Spencer Black (D-Madison)[346][347]
Wisconsin State Assemblymember Pedro Colón (D-Milwaukee)[346]
Wisconsin State Assemblymember Jason Fields (D-Milwaukee)[346]
Wisconsin State Assemblymember Tamara D. Grigsby (D-Milwaukee)[346]
Wisconsin State Assemblymember Steve Hilgenberg (D-Dodgeville)[346]
Wisconsin State Assemblymember Gordon Hintz (D-Oshkosh)[346]
Wisconsin State Assemblymember Cory Mason (D-Racine)[346]
Wisconsin State Assemblymember Joe Parisi (D-Madison)[346][347]
Wisconsin State Assemblymember Donna J. Seidel (D-Wausau)[346]
Wisconsin State Assemblymember Mike Sheridan (D-Janesville)[346]
Wisconsin State Assemblymember Christine Sinicki (D-Milwaukee)[346]
Wisconsin State Assemblymember Tony Staskunas (D-South Milwaukee)[346]
Wisconsin State Assemblymember Barbara Toles (D-Milwaukee)[346]
Wisconsin State Assemblymember Annette P. Williams (D-Milwaukee)[346]
Wisconsin State Assemblymember Josh Zepnick (D-Milwaukee)[346]
Fmr. Wisconsin Attorney General Peggy Lautenschlager (D-Fond Du Lac)[citation needed]

[edit] Wyoming
Wyoming State Sen. Mike Massie (D-Laramie)[348]
Wyoming State Sen. Ken Decaria (D-Evanston)[348]
Wyoming State Rep. Debbie Hammons (D-Worland)[348]
Wyoming State Rep. Ross Diercks (D-Lusk)[348]
Wyoming State Rep. Pete Jorgensen (D-Jackson)[348]
Wyoming State Rep. Patrick Goggles (D-Ethete)[348]
Wyoming State Rep. Lori Millin (D-Cheyenne)[348]
Wyoming State Rep. Mary Throne (D-Cheyenne)[348]
Wyoming State Rep. Stan Blake (D-Green River)[348]
Wyoming State Rep. Mart

Posted by: Socrates | May 8, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Clinton's last stand.

SHe wants her followers to vote for McCain so that she can say, "I told you so."

It's really quite brilliant.

When she's losing devide the party; deface, slander, and lie about the winning candidate. Hurt them to the point they don't win the election; then tell everyone they should've voted for her.

Hope you hillary supporters are looking forward to another 4 years of GWB policies.

Posted by: Reckless Abandon | May 8, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Reckless Abandon, you're wrong. Obama did it to him self. He supports the concept of following rules over the principle of democracy.

Do a revote and let the voters speak. Obama wins then I support him. If he doesn't then why support a guy that doesn't believe in the basic principle of voting, voice, democracy. I'd basically be saying that democracy in this country is a sham.

As to Rankin, good point. Obama and experience really shows up all over the place.

Health care. Paul Krugman in NY Time piece said that Obama's health plan is 2x as expensive and covers 1/2 of the uninsured. Say what? Mr. genius found a lower sticker price that is more expensive per unit, and buys less. Talk about pandering. But it is even more. It is the oldest problem in public good ever known. We learned about it in Economics 101, that is the FREE RIDER PROBLEM. And guess what, he is pandering to the young, and getting their votes as well. It is the same ole from this guy, but worse. He'd like to run on a nomination without Michigan and Florida having a voice.

NO Obama if not primary in Michigan. Don't compound the mistake by seating delegate without a vote. Let's vote.

Posted by: michigan demo | May 8, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Obama can't even unite the loony left with the moderates of the Democratic party. How is he supposed to unite the rest of the country?

Posted by: Obama is Bush | May 8, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

I am enjoying Clinton's use of the phrase hard working Americans" to represent working class Americans. I suppose I must be some other sort to support her rival.

This is the type of talk that turns me off on her candidacy, not to mention her nutty Iran talk.

Posted by: Charles Dukes | May 8, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

I, as a McCain supporter, hope that Hillary wins the nomination (stays in the race), due to the sole fact that most Obama supporters will probably vote for him as a sort of "retribution," if you will. But hey, what does a 13-year old student know?

Posted by: McCain Rules | May 8, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Michigan Demo
I live in Arizona...we obeyed the rules of the DNC. Our Governor moved our primary date up, but not earlier than the rules allowed. If I lived in Michigan or Florida I would be pissed off at my lame state democratic party leaders. They are the ones responsible - not Obama.
All of the candidates INCLUDING HILLARY CLINTON PLEDGED to abide by the DNC rules which stated that Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina were the only four states allowed to hold their elections before February 5th. States that did not abide by the rules were told they would LOSE 100% OF THEIR DELEGATES.

Now I'll ask you.,,,How would you feel.... If you followed the rules like you promised, and then your opponent says she decided, since she's losing, now she doesn't want to follow those rules.

As it stands now...even if they count MI & FL, Obama would be ahead. But don't you think it sets a bad precedent? We have rules but they don't mean anything.

Posted by: Joyce | May 8, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

I think Michael Moore should be the President. He is assertive, aggressive and he might be able to change our healthcare system !!! Go MICHAEL MOORE !!!

Posted by: Patrick | May 8, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

well i guess we'll all cuddle up around the junior senator from Ill. who has less experience than i do running anything...I'm sure he's a nice guy, I'm sure he thinks he can "change" things...every 19year old and highbrow failure in America just loves him....Heck, he even has the good council of Rev. Wright.... you idiots have no idea what your in for...

Posted by: johnc | May 8, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

I will be writing in Hillary Clinton's name on my ballot. This is written by an upper middle class urban intellectual, shocked at the level of pure misogyny exhibited by the MSM, and the further savaging rained down on Hillary Clinton by so-called "progressives" in her own party, who have themselves been unable to deliver the promises that brought them a majority in the Congress a few years ago.

As well, many individuals I know feel the same way as I do. Even a plea from Hillary - who has persisted as a good sport (as good as one can manage that, in a heated political campaign) - will not change my vote.

Barack Obama is, essentially, a reverse mirror image of George Bush, promising the "progressive" version of "hopes and dreams", based on nothing other than his words - words enabled by financial contributors who, included among them were lobbyists, ex-lobbyists, and so on.

He is a man of little experience, and with not nearly as broad a vision and real-world experience as Hillary.

After four years with Bush, it's no wonder that we have so many citizens starved for the kind of rhetoric that Obama so brilliantly delivers. the tragedy is that, once again, it seems that "image sells" over substance.

I still think Hillary can pull this out. Obama is now "resting" as Hillary continues to campaign. That's the sign of the character of the two.

Hillary: Hang in there! I would love to see you go all the way to the convention, and expose the do-nothing progressives in your party for who and what they are. They are interested only in coming back into power. Power is your game, as well, but at least there is substantive history, and results to show for how you have used power; most of that has resulted in a history of good, liberal accomplishment.

I could never let myself pull a voting lever for Obama, a manufactured candidate, if there ever was one.

Hillary is the ONLY one who can beat McCain. A vote for Obama is a vote for the latter.

GO HILLARY!!!!!!!

Posted by: Phil | May 8, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Michigan, Florida and Hillary will mean a "scortched earth" fate for the Democrats.

Posted by: Yeah | May 8, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

There seems to be a strong correlation between Hillary Clinton supporters and those who have very poor grammar. Half of them cannot even spell her name correctly (it has two l's folks). Normally it is the Republicans who count on the stupid portion of America, but this time Hillary is making it her base.

Posted by: Jay Leno | May 8, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

opensecrets.org is a great place to look if you want to know who is donating what money.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

"If you voted for George Bush in either of the last two elections, don't you have some responsibility for the condition of the country right now?"

Fair question. Here's another:

If you vote for Clinton in the 90s, don't you have some responsibility for gas prices?

After all, he vetoed ANWR in 1995 in part because it would take ten years to produce. Wasn't ten years from then three years ago?


Posted by: Larry | May 8, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

You cant even compare Obama to Bush. Obama has a Goal and will help change America into a better place.

Posted by: John | May 8, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Please explain how Senator Obama is arrogant. That is very curious to me when I see his behavior and words in comparison to McCain, Senator Clinton, President Clinton and President Bush. Each is much more arrogant, angry, entitled than he.?.? Confident, reflective and smart, yes; arrogant? I just don't see it.

Posted by: FDI | May 8, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Please quit and get back to being a "Senator" in NY.

Posted by: Jack | May 8, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

To David Teufeldieb's wish that Hillary Clinton should run as an independent and siting Lieberman as an analogy.

Yeah, Lieberman is SO successful that he became the "reminder" and booster of McCain who cannot tell the difference between Shias and Al Qaeda.

Go Republican McCain/"Independent" Lieberman. Maybe second time is a charm these days. Who knows, we may well end up with a VP Lieberman and with McCain, they can be in Iraq for the next 100 years if "necessary".

Posted by: David Teufeldieb | May 8, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Where does all of Obama's cash come from anyway?

Posted by: Just wondering | May 8, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

It is obvious that Clinton is deliberately trying to destroy the Democratic Party. This latest "I'm the candidate of white people who work for a living" can have no other possible motive. Since it is guaranteed to reduce her African American support to that a Wallace or a Talmadge would get, it cannot be an attempt to win the Presidency It is either a tantrum; if I can't win, I'll break the game or a substitute reward for those who thought they were buying the influence (control) on the President for their TENS OF MILLIONS in speaker fees. (Bill's a good speaker, no Obama, but a good speaker However, only a fool would pay that much for what is essentially hot air.)

Posted by: Frank Weinberg | May 8, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

If the Obamacultists think they need Hillary on the ticket to win, she should insist on the top spot.

Posted by: John | May 8, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

The only change that Obama will bring is a change to pandering to left wing special interest groups as opposed to right wing.

Posted by: Change | May 8, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Mccain Wont Win!

Posted by: John | May 8, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Obama will divide the country far worse than it already is. That's why McCain is a shoe in.

Posted by: Obama is Bush | May 8, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a charlatan. Anyone that isn't aware by now will be in the coming weeks.

Posted by: McCain Supporter | May 8, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Count Michigan and Florida, I agree.

A lot of this is really off base and naughty. I'm not a racist if I don't vote for Obama. For me, he refused to have a revote in Michigan, as far as I know that is his position. And that is wrong of him.

But yes, why didn't the DNC punish the state party leaders by taking away there delegate status, or fining them monetarily, or in some other way. Why do I lose my VOICE?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/?

Posted by: michigan demo | May 8, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Obama will be the nominee and the take the White House People are tired of Republicans. If McCain is elected he will be a third term for Bush. Obama has plans for this country and will Change it into a better place.
Obama 08'

Posted by: Johnathon | May 8, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

I'll vote for either Hillary or Obama... as long as it isn't McCain. He is a bigger flip-flopper than Kerry. I don't think there is a single thing that he hasn't changed his mind on depending on which way the wind blows. Taxes, Imigration, he's even changed his stance on the war (Go back and listen to what he said when we invaded -- he said "we should go in and get out immediately"). And the guy is completely crooked -- anyone remember Keating five? Savings and Loan -- cost taxpayers a hundred billion dollars. No joke!

Posted by: Jack Handy | May 8, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Here's an honest question for you to consider -- especially if you think she is your only hope -- can she win in November if every Obama supporter votes for McCain instead?

ANSWER: YES SHE CAN... see the above scores from nice post above...

Posted by: CHAN PAL | May 8, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse


I can't wait to see Obama uniting Americans!!! He is the president we need at this time. Someone who thinks out of a box and who doesn't cling on small issues, rather focuses and ready to move America to where it should be... Hillary she has been using silly tacts just like kids.

Posted by: Roger | May 8, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Hillary supporters - where is your respect for the nation? Do you so blindly support the candidate, and not the principles? Hillary and Obama support the same basic principles, and have the same basic plans. I do not see Obama supporters saying "no way in hell am I going to support Hillary should she get the nod"...but all of you...would you rather see GWB #2? McCain's not going to survive the term anyhow, who knows who his VP will be....could you imagine if he nods someone as deceptive as Bush did Cheney? Then you will be asking yourself "why didn't I do the right thing and 'support my nation' by supporting the Democratic principles and getting behind Obama?"
Unite people, UNITE! The next three weeks will go down in the history books for a century to come. You are witnessing history at this moment. So take a moment, look at the nation, the world...ask yourself then will John McCain make this a better world than Obama? The clear answer is no. So let Hillary run the course...if she miraculously prevails, then I'll stand behind her. If she doesn't, I ask you all to do the same for Obama. It's the right thing for the world right now. Only as drastic a change as putting a Democrat in office can repair the wounds gouged out of the eyes of humanity by Bush.

Posted by: unite | May 8, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

I live in a Senior Community in California. It must be an age thing because most of the people in our community say the following: If Hillary does not get the nomination, they will vote for McCain, citing lack of experience for Obama. I wonder if this is true only in this senior community, or across the country. I think both candidates are worthy and I wish them both good luck.

R.Rankin

Posted by: roberta rankin | May 8, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

John McCain will win in November simply because Washington DC, NY and LA don't elect the President on their own.

Posted by: McCain 2008 | May 8, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

A year ago, if someone had told me a republican could win the Presidency in 2008 I would have laughed and blown them off as idiots.

NOW? It's plausible, heck it's VERY possible.

Now, who caused this?

Hillary Clinton has created a huge rift in the Democratic party. She has spent the last couple months defacing, slandering, distorting and degrading the future leader of her party. Look at these comments from her followers... unbelievable.

I bet when she concedes to Barack... the people who will continue to hurt and defame Barack the most will be Hillary-fans.

She has done what nobody else could have done for the Republicans... and gave them a chance to win the Presidency in 2008.

Posted by: Reckless Abandon | May 8, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

John,

Stop smoking that stuff!

Could you define the term 'educated' please, because the way you use it is inconsistent with it's true meaning!

Obamites are a bunch of dreamers waiting to be rescued from their own incompetence and shortcomings by an Obscure Prophet!

Posted by: Caronte | May 8, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

So if we support Hillary we are racist?? Get a life.

Posted by: HillaryAllTheWay | May 8, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

WHAT IS THE BIAS MEDIA AFRAID OF?? WHAT IS THE BIAS DEMOCRATIC PARTY AFRAID OF?? YOU DO NOT HAVE A WINNER SO WHY IN THE WORLD DO YOU ACT LIKE ALL YOU FLUNKIES HAVE A RIGHT TO TELL HILLARY TO GET OUT OF THE RACE??? !!!AFTER SHE IS WINNING THE STATES THAT MATTER MOST>>HERE IS WHAT YOU GUYS ARE REALLY AFRAID OF KENTUCKY POLLS: SURVEY USA ....HILLARY 62% and OBama 28% and Rasmussen Poll for WEST VIRGINIA HILLARY 56% and (Liar, illassociated) Obama 27%...SURE IF I WAS HIM I WOULD WANT HER TO GET OUT TO BECAUSE HE CAN"T WIN THE BIG STATES=HE CAN"T WIN THE ELECTION IN NOVEMBER NO WAY NO HOW !!..IF HE IS THE CANDIDATE JUST GIVE IT TO MORE THE SAME McCAIN! Obama DOESN"T HAVE A SHOT IN HELL!!!!> THIS IS WHAT DRIVES THIS MAN AND THE ANTIAMERICAN PREACHER AND WIFE... ALL MAKES SENSE>>THIS IS HIS HIDDEN AGENDA AS SO MUCH IS HIDDEN WITH HIM ALong with his Father who belong to the Kenyatta the most corrupt organization in Africa where they killed, raped and were arsonist..See U.S. Veteran dispatch l2/2006.. People you thought 911 was bad making this shady man PRESIDENT is the worse thing American can do so people who are jealous of the Clintons get over it ..you are voting someone in WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAy worse! Clintons hold the record for the longest Peace keeping time in the history of any presidency in USA and the biggest economic growth ..THESE ARE THE two CONCERNS TODAY!!.HERE ARE WORDS FROM Obama's own book:
Notice the last one!! Scary

These passages from Barrack's books:

From Dreams of My Father:
I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.

From Dreams of My Father
I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and
animosity against my mothers race.

From Dreams of My Father:
There was something about him that made me
wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.

From Dreams of My Father:
It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty
to the black masses, to strike out and name names.

From Dreams of My Father:
I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my
own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that
I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of
Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.

From Audacity of Hope:
I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.


QUESTION: DO YOU THINK THE WINDS ARE SHIFTING? AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT DOES HE THINK?!! AND THIS MAN IS ACTUALLY GOING TO TAKE CHARGE OF OUR NATION.. OH TO THINK HE WILL BE THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF... SCARRRY VERY SCARRRRY !!!!!! Wake up America before you put our biggest enemy in the world ....muslim born Barack Huessien Obama..get a grip..on your ignorance to all this man's tainted past...and get a grip on your bias badgering for Hillary to get out of the race ..The democratic party has to make it right and when she gets her votes...like she deserves...then the reality of this race will be...for Obama...the partys over!! HILLARY 2008! VOTE FOR HILLARY! We taught the terrorist to fly in this country to our demise of 911...wake up we don't need to put a muslim born man who denies his true self, a man made up of lies see 50 lies Obama told this elecetions at Political Forum Campaigns and Elections by Latisha.in the Highest office of this nation....HILLARY IGNORE THE IDIOTS!! Those are the same ones that voted for Bush.look where we are now??!??..GO HILLARY!GOD BLESS AMERICA WITH HILLARY CLINTON 2008!!!

Posted by: ByeObama | May 8, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

I find it annoying how we are "protesting" the DNC. A protest could damage this country for years to come. These next four years mean everything for this country. Think about your grandchildren. Is Hillary really the right woman to make history?

The next four years is what matters. Not a stupid protest against the democrats.

and with Michigan and Florida.
She only wants those states counted because she needs as many votes as she can get. If she were in the lead she would not be trying so hard to get them counted.
As for those who went out and voted. You did your civic duty and should not be punished for it. The vote should count as a win or a lose but all delegates should be stripped.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

a person who makes a "bone headed" mistake more than once, can not have a sound judgement. And as he has said, "It is all about making right decisions" or having sound judgement..

I would hate for him to make another such mistake dealing with Iran or other unfriendly nation!

I would rather vote for a hawkish senator McCain that Senator Obama.

Posted by: mool shekhawat, sc | May 8, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

If Hilary can't even finance her own campaign, how can she finance the economy in the U.S? On the other hand, Obama's campaign is well-organized. He made a lot of creative way to reach the young votes in the U.S. Our country depends on the next generation, not the old people. Go Obama !!!

Posted by: Christina | May 8, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Hillary supporters - where is your respect for the nation? Do you so blindly support the candidate, and not the principles? Hillary and Obama support the same basic principles, and have the same basic plans. I do not see Obama supporters saying "no way in hell am I going to support Hillary should she get the nod"...but all of you...would you rather see GWB #2? McCain's not going to survive the term anyhow, who knows who his VP will be....could you imagine if he nods someone as deceptive as Bush did Cheney? Then you will be asking yourself "why didn't I do the right thing and 'support my nation' by supporting the Democratic principles and getting behind Obama?"
Unite people, UNITE! The next three weeks will go down in the history books for a century to come. You are witnessing history at this moment. So take a moment, look at the nation, the world...ask yourself then will John McCain make this a better world than Obama? The clear answer is no. So let Hillary run the course...if she miraculously prevails, then I'll stand behind her. If she doesn't, I ask you all to do the same for Obama. It's the right thing for the world right now. Only as drastic a change as putting a Democrat in office can repair the wounds gouged out of the eyes of humanity by Bush.

Posted by: unite_people_unite | May 8, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

John McCain will SMOKE Obama in November!

Posted by: Ron Paul | May 8, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

McCain 08!

Posted by: independent voters of america | May 8, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Obama is almost certainly going to win this nomination. Clinton won't be on the ballot in November. You don't have to agree with this outcome, but at this point, it's just the way that the ballots were cast. Now the choice, for better or worse, is going to be between Obama and McCain. Personally, I'm happy about this, but that doesn't really matter now. I'd encourage people to vote based on policy differences, not based on a desire to get revenge against Obama for getting more votes than a candidate whom you preferred. Do you want more tax cuts to the rich? Do you want the war in Iraq to go on indefinitely? When Stevens and others retire, do you want supreme court justices who will eventually weaken Roe v. Wade? Do you want a media that promotes free speech, or one in which a few telecommunications companies tell everyone what to think? In my opinion, your vote in November should be based on your answers to these questions.

Posted by: James Green-Armytage | May 8, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

REAL AMERICANS don't hate anybody.

Posted by: REAL AMERICANS | May 8, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

wherever I see, many people do not like Obama with many things (u all know by radio talk shows, they are real atleast from subject), but how come he is winning... something is really going wrong... moreover, super delegates who hates Clinton family, just turns to him... that was obvious... but u know, she got all states, which secure more numbers in electoral college...

Good luck in choosing right one, as we do not have any one other than Hillary...
I am pasting here again...
Obama -

IL 21, OR 7, WA 11, MN 10, WI 10, LA 9, MD 10, CT 7, VT 3, ME 4, HI 4, WDC 3 = 99

McCain -

TX 34, OK 7, AK 3, ID 4, UT 5, MT 3, WY 3, KS 6, NE 5, SD 3, ND 3, MS 6, AL 9, GA 15, SC 8 = 114

Hillary -

CA 55, NV 5, NM 5, AR 6, KY 8, WVA 5, MI 17, OH 20, PA 21, FL 27, NY 31, NJ 15, MA 12, RI 4, NH 4, DE 3 = 238

Grabs -

CO 9, IA 7, TN 11, VA 13, MO 11, IN 11, AZ 10, NC 15


TOTAL 538

Posted by: CHAN PAL | May 8, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Some of you Hillary supporters pointy hats and white sheets are showing. Well, this country is changing wether you like it or not. You can not stop it. Obama will win in the fall. The young and more enlightened will make sure of that.

To other HRC supports: Even if you don't support him, vote for him because McSame will add more conservatives on the supreme court.

Posted by: NotSuprised | May 8, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Some moron wrote, in part:

"Obama -

IL 21, OR 7, WA 11, MN 10, WI 10, LA 9, MD 10, CT 7, VT 3, ME 4, HI 4, WDC 3 = 99

McCain -

TX 34, OK 7, AK 3, ID 4, UT 5, MT 3, WY 3, KS 6, NE 5, SD 3, ND 3, MS 6, AL 9, GA 15, SC 8 = 114

Hillary -

CA 55, NV 5, NM 5, AR 6, KY 8, WVA 5, MI 17, OH 20, PA 21, FL 27, NY 31, NJ 15, MA 12, RI 4, NH 4, DE 3 = 238

Grabs -

CO 9, IA 7, TN 11, VA 13, MO 11, IN 11, AZ 10, NC 15


TOTAL 538

NEED 180 / 3-candidate election"

First of all, a candidate needs 270 electoral votes to win the presidency. It doesn't matter how many candidates there are. You also buy into the Clinton argument that because she won big states that Obama wouldn't win them in the General election. This is absurd. California, New York, New jersey, Massachusetts and New Hampshire will go to the dem regardless. That is already a 117 net gain for Obama. Mississippi, Alabama and Georgia are definitely not the shoo-ins for McCain as you presume them to be. That is another net gain potential of 30. Ohio and Pennsylavania will probably go to the Democrats because of NAFTA being supported by repubs. There is another 41.

That alone brings the electoral to 287 for Obama.

Now, to show just how big of a moron you are, you list Arizona as up for grabs. McCain is from Arizona and he will win that in a landslide.

Posted by: Matt | May 8, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

How does obama unite people? When you have people who happen to vote for him and now declare themselves intelligent and use the word peasant.... Congrats you are educated now...

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

think independents are idiots who just do not pay enough attention to actually make a choice.

Posted by: | May 8, 2008 9:28 PM


Just went and posted this comment on 5 West Virginia media forums. Now on to Kentucky. Explained that this is what Obama supporters think of a huge percentage of the population. Go back to your revival, 'come to Obama' meeting. lol.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

DUUHHHHHHH?

Posted by: Howard Dean | May 8, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Jake D., you really are a foul-mouthed pervert. You are a creep by day and a pervert by night. What gives buddy? Why do ytineou think people will be impressed with you talk of giant cucumbers and anus?

I think you might be hallucinating. Or it might be past your bedtime.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

I wont post here anymore because I am tired of those LOSER Clintonians crying because their stupid dream of destroying our beautiful country ended.
Recession is not happening anymore, banana-bama is destroying the cocaine cartel mafia, and sending the Clintons and their hispanic drug dealer supporters back to their slums south of the border.
So, we paving the way for Big Mac and Rice, and then Rice empire with 12 years in the White House (4 as VP and 8 as Pres.). So, Clintonian traitors better for you to look for some place OUTSIDE of the US to hide, because we, REAL AMERICANS, hate you more than anything.

Posted by: Bye losers | May 8, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

George Bush, George Bush, Yeah!

Posted by: Neolib | May 8, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Bush is responsible for the war on Iraq which was unnecessary and not related to terrorism but now is thanks to Bush. Voting for McCain is voting to support Bush's policies.

Posted by: Miguele3 | May 8, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Protest the DNC and vote for McCain... Seriously how democratic was the primary???

Posted by: Vote for McCain | May 8, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

I must submit a brief second post. I fully expect that the average and better-educated electorate will ensure that Obama is the choice for the Democrats - not hard to predict. But, I absolutely promise that this dopey, scared, racist, selfish, short-sighted, despicable country will elect McCain. I promise that.

Posted by: John | May 8, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand why voters should be punished for something the state party heads did. That was a very stupid move on the part of the DNC. They should have punished the state party heads themselves, and probably should not have even LET them go ahead with their plan to hold the primaries on those dates to begin with, but apparently the DNC can't keep its dogs on the leash.

Posted by: Count Michigan and Florida | May 8, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

1. Obama didn't place his heart on his hand for the National Anthem-- He DOES place his hand on his heart for the Pledge of Allegiance. It is NOT obligatory to place your hand on your heart for the National Anthem. Look at any ball game. Few do it. By the way, we're the only country in the free world that has a loyalty oath (Pledge of Allegiance)- It was introduced in the 1950s by the "red scare" types.

2. George Washington didn't wear a flag pin. Abraham Lincoln didn't wear a flag pin. Ronald Reagan didn't wear a flag pin. This is a silly critique of a candidate, and it's born out of the propaganda of extremely dim-witted xenophobes who think that if your car isn't plastered with bumper stickers, you must not be a "real" American. If a lapel pin is enough to shape your opinion of someone, despite the fact that his ideas and policies are exceptional and would HELP YOU, then you don't deserve the freedom you have, and you're about as unAmerican as they come. Judging based on silly platitudes might be the depth of your intelligence, though.

3. Obama HONORED Michigan (my home state) and Florida by OBEYING the rules of the DNC and trying to stick by them. Hillary is the one treating Michigan and Florida as if we're mere bargaining chips in her game. Obama offered her a split of 50/50 to make it all even, which is pretty generous considering he obeyed the rules (unlike Hillary) and wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan. Hillary says it's not enough. She wants a re-vote (and at this point, she'd LOSE, so that's pretty stupid). The problem with a re-vote is that those of us who voted outside the party because we had NO choice on the Democratic ticket (Hillary or "undeclared") would NOT be allowed to vote for Obama. That's INTENTIONALLY disenfranchising people. Obama has offered the only fair option-- A split of the delegates from these two states-- and Hillary has refused because she thinks that she can eke out a win if we all vote again. AS A MICHIGAN RESIDENT, I DO NOT WANT A RE-VOTE. I want my delegates seated 50/50 for both candidates. Hillary knows that won't help her, so she's against it. SHE IS THE ONE TELLING ME TO DROP DEAD.

4. EVEN IF SHE WINS 75% OF THE DELEGATS FROM MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA (highly unlikely) she STILL doesn't have enough delegates to beat Obama now. It's pretty simple math, but I don't expect the racist hicks to understand things like that.

5. Obama is NOT a Muslim. This is a tired, xenophobic whine from the lowest racist scum of our society. Just stop. You're embarrassing yourselves.

6. Obama did NOT abuse cocaine. There is not ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE that proves this charge. Nothing, except for a crazy man who has no proof, but wants his 15 minutes of fame by screaming obscenities in polite company. And EVEN IF HE DID, So did Bush. So did Clinton. So did a lot of people who were alive in the 1980s. What someone did to their own body two decades ago has NOTHING TO DO with what they're doing RIGHT NOW. You're all IDIOTS for repeating this lie, and you're complete morons if you think it matters either way.

Posted by: Zed | May 8, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Joyce, what state do you live in? What if you were sitting here in Michigan and every time you watched CNN all you can hear from "analyst" is RULES RULES RULES.

"Hillary whiners." Wow, I can see it now, King George goes before Parliment and says we need to slap down the colonial whiners.

Every democrat felt the sting of 2000 when Gore lost. We analyzed that thing forwards and backwards. The prevailing feeling back then we straight forward.

In what country could the brother of the candidate for president use his power as governor of the state (that decided the election) to hire a corporation, incorporated in the state of that the candidate was governor to invalidate votes for his opponent. If you guessed a third world country you're wrong. It was the US.

Well that is how I feel right now. Lets not use DEMOCRACY to decide, lets have a committee meeting. All those in favor of Barak ....

Posted by: Michigan Demo | May 8, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Obama 2008!

Posted by: Rufus the wino on the corner | May 8, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

What about the million plus people who went out and voted?? Forget them????

Posted by: HillaryAllTheWay | May 8, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Obama 2008! GOD DAMN AMERICA TOO!

Posted by: Rev. Jeramiah Wright | May 8, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Why does the nominee have to be picked before the convention? Then it just turns into a glorified pep rally. I haven't watched one in forever. What's the point? There must be plenty others like me. Let the convention pick the nominee this time. It would be interesting for a change.

Posted by: John | May 8, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

To the person who addressed their note to me. I never said I voted for Cheney or Bush!!! I think you better read my note again. I won't vote for anyone who doesn't respect this country. By the way "God Bless America".

Posted by: Ptime | May 8, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Obama also served two terms in the Illinois state legislature. So he has MORE experience in elected office than Hillary Clinton. I think Obama is a man who is a quick study and listens to the expertise of others. Look at his well organized campaign compared to Hillary's - with all the Clintons' political experience.

Posted by: Joyce | May 8, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Obama 2008!

Posted by: Mark Rezko | May 8, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

What is Obama without a speech writer and a teleprompter?

An insecure mixed color guy stuttering and unable to respond or deliver clear ideas!

I will not trust my grandsons future to this rookie who is full of hot air pumped by tons of suspicious money and media support from the start!

Posted by: Caronte | May 8, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

I won't... I will vote Republican, because this primary did not represent democracy. The handling was of the primary was a crooked as the elections in russia.. Nancy Pelosi should shut her mouth about any issue regarding to russia's or china's policy towards their right to voice....

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Obama 2008!

Posted by: Ahmadinajad | May 8, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Obama/Clinton 08'

Posted by: Obama/Clinton 08' | May 8, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE

About the vote counting in FL and MI ..... here's the evidence .....that Clinton pledged..... along with the others .....to not count those votes:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8wX99qUo3Ow

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

How can you say the votes in Florida and Michigan should not count?? come on.

Posted by: HillaryAllTheWay | May 8, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

I have read some of these comments, but not all, and most deserve no reply. The Obama/Clinton divide has nothing to do with race or sex (gender is a social role that has nothing to do with Hillary). The real difference lies in the divide between educated, civilized people and peasants - the blue-collar,racist, bowling alley knuckleheads to whom (ooh, they say,"whom," grammar!)Hillary appeals.

Posted by: john | May 8, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Obamo will win and pick Clinton as his running mate. That's the only ticket that will win the white house for the DEMS. A united party is the only way!

Posted by: dude dude dude | May 8, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Obama 2008!

Posted by: Hamas | May 8, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

I think independents are idiots who just do not pay enough attention to actually make a choice.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

The Obama's are wonderful people in so many ways. They are extremely smart, inspirational and articulate. I just don't know if I want them representing America to the world if they have never been proud of America until now.

Posted by: I_Dont_Believe_it | May 8, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

She needs to pick up any spares left here if she wants to stay in this bowling tourney semi-final.

Posted by: Mark W. | May 8, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Obama 2008!

Posted by: Satan | May 8, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

The media has provided evidence that a candidate was not telling the truth about a visit to Bosnia. If someone "exaggerates" unnecessarily over something so seemingly trivial, one has to wonder what is likely to occur when major issues are at stake?

Do Americans want or need a liar in the White House?

Doesn't a direct lie by a candidate trump sermons by a candidate's preacher?

Posted by: Bostonian | May 8, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

A Dozen ways Barack is Tough

Watch the campaigns carefully. They foreshadow the way that a leader will govern.

1. What's tough is growing up as a black child with a single white mom. (It's not exactly growing up elite.)

2. What's tough is deciding to campaign for President against a field of eight seasoned, talented politicians when you are the new comer and then beating all but one of your opponents. (So far.)

4. What's tough is building a community organization in every state in America and in every territory and with Americans abroad too.

5. What's tough is to do the work of understanding the tiny details of every single caucus state far in advance and to organize people to participate and to value their input. And then to win.

6. What's tough is to reach out across party, racial, ethnic, age, educational, religious and gender lines and include everyone in the campaign. Look at our campaign. No one else has done that, because it's too tough for them!

7. What's tough is to out fundraise all your opponents. By getting 1.5 million individual donors averaging less than $100 each. It's never been done before because it's too tough for our opponents to do. They say we can't change Washington because it's too tough. They are confused. It's too tough for the old politicians, but not for us. We have ALREADY changed the money game in politics.

8. What's tough is calling the other side personally to congratulate them when we lose, instead of sending a press release or a surrogate.

9. What's tough is to tell people what needs to be told not what they might want to hear.

10. What's tough is accepting and embracing all Americans as they are, with all our diversity and all of our differences. Even though it may lose some votes.

11. What's tough is facing down the media frenzy about the ex pastor issue by addressing the underlying issue of race in America.

12. What's tough is running a campaign of lifting up the nation, not a campaign based on tearing down the opposition. We stand for the upfront proposition that in America, we can show our patriotism or not show it as we each individually choose. No person or political party owns patriotism. We will never attack our opponents' patriotism.

Watch the campaigns carefully. They foreshadow the way that a leader will govern.

Posted by: pgo | May 8, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

I hope Obama wins too, as he really has no chance against McCain, securing a slightly closer to the center of the spectrum president.

Posted by: EricD | May 8, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

I would like to see Hillary run as an independent candidate in the general election. She is a marvelously tenacious and effective candidate. She is not going to win the Democratic primary, pending a near-miracle. Obama is politically talented and may be an effective President, if elected, but nothing in his background (certainly not his experience in the Senate) indicates that he is capable of more than anything than writing books and making speeches. He attacked her record on the war in the same way that Lamont did to Lieberman. Lieberman ran successfully as an independent and Hillary can as well.

Posted by: David Teufeldieb | May 8, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

I agree that urging her to quit is pretty partisan and undemocratic. The calls themselves are going to affect how people will vote in the coming days, but again there really is no real reason for her to quit unless the process comes to a close of its own accord and she loses.
Ron Paul is STILL running.

Posted by: Agreed | May 8, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Scott Farcus, yeah you latte liberal idiot, I'll take credit for no terrorist attacks since 9/11/2001 on US soil.

Posted by: Ben | May 8, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

I mean honestly how can you call yourself a democrat if you do not stand by your party?

Posted by: Absurd Ideas | May 8, 2008 9:21 PM

When you are an independent who leaned left to support Hillary and who will now be supporting McCain. We are out there. A. Lot. Of. Us. Dems just don't get that.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Michigan and Florida broke the rules, therefore their votes should not be counted.


Obama/Clinton 08'

Posted by: Tom | May 8, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Whatever Hillary and Barak said about Michigan doesn't matter. Either there is a vote or there isn't. Either there is the principle of DEMOCRACY or there is the ruling of the committee.

It's that simple. VOTE. And if Barak wins, I'll be a good democrat in NOVEMBER. I'll send Barak some cash and vote for my party. Don't VOTE in Michigan and I have a crisis of identity.

At this point, I'm actually searching the internet trying this google term, "What is the democratic party?" I've never had a doubt about until now.

Posted by: michigan demo | May 8, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Michigan Democratic Party just proposed they give Clinton 69 delegates and Obama 59 delegates. What do you think? Change the rules after the game is almost over? Obama will still win, but maybe the Clintons will quit their whining.

Posted by: Joyce | May 8, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Obama was a US Senator for one-third of his first term when he decided to run for President. Despite his intelligence level (when compared to Bush) the same pitfalls in re lack of experience will rear their ugly heads if Obama is elected and has to 'learn on the job'. America will be the worse for it in 2009 and 2010.

Posted by: Roy Hobbs | May 8, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Don't know what Hillary's end game may be, or whether she has one at all. But this endless Democratic struggle is not good for Congressional campaign fund raising. The sooner the bloodletting can be stanched, the better for the battles ahead. It's to be doubted that the Republicans will run short on funds to support their candidates for the House and Senate.

Posted by: FirstMouse | May 8, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Here's a question for the forum:

If you voted for George Bush in either of the last two elections, don't you have some responsibility for the condition of the country right now?

Posted by: Scott Farcus | May 8, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Beltran you're crazy... Obama is going to be lobbying for the Health Industry... How clueless is it to think that a politician can be clean...

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

How can you stand by your party if you DO NOT believe in the candidate??

Posted by: HillaryAllTheWay | May 8, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

The old girl has no compunction about playing the gender card and the race card in her frantic quest for the White House. And that is way too bad because she feeds into a White group whose sole support for her is based on race and gender, and to reinforce those racist and gender biased attitudes will likely set back the racial and gender progress in this country by decades. The Clintons openly playing the race card and the gender card gives racial bias and gender bias a legitimacy that relaxes any desire or need to change one's attitude away from such beliefs.

The Clintons have no love or compassion for the country other that what it can do for them.

Posted by: Hedcutter | May 8, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

About the rev. wright issue, i dont agree with everything the man said but between the rhetoric there might be some truth, he was in the marines and served his country faithfully. alot of people speculated that the cia knew about 9/11 before it happened but did nothin. we as americans dont really know what are government has done overseas, to cause these atrocities to happen but ive always been told if you mind your own business your business will get left alone.but look ive been a member of church for ten years and i didnt go every sunday but im still of christian faith. honestly nobody has to go to church every sunday to be a christian,ive had a relationship with my pastor, as a mentor and to this day im still doin my own thing. i took what i needed out of his messages that were uplifting and of God to help me through my life. and i feel obama did the same also. my pastor doesnt preach the same mesages every sunday and i dont think anybody would be in his church if they were hearing that same thing every sunday for 20yrs. so i dont think rev.wrights messages were hatefill and about politics every sunday for the past 20yrs. even though thats what alot of people and the media want to believe. lets not be ignorant but smart and use common sense and wisdom and pray, and not listen and believe everything we hear when it comes to voting for our president.

Posted by: lokki | May 8, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

To "Ptime": Cheney and Rumsfeld and Bush put their bloody hands over their hearts and religiously wear the flag pins, which are made in China. Why don't you vote for them again, OK?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

I must say that I am appaled at what is being written. You are attacking wives? husbands? This is about today and America's future. Another Clinton in the WHite House will create too much controversy. Controversy is not whats important. Whats important is this country as a whole. Not voting for Obama if Clinton is not on the ticket? I mean honestly how can you call yourself a democrat if you do not stand by your party?

Posted by: Absurd Ideas | May 8, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Truth is, Clinton's nomination is stolen by big money's "race card."

Now, I have no doubt that Republicans will get the election.

Another 4 years, seem to be lost!

Posted by: Truth | May 8, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

I am and have been a loyal HRC supporter. I understand that it is very unlikely that she will win the nomination now and that I will probably be forced to work for and vote for BHO as I believe strongly in left/progressive policy and have since I was 13 years old. I have been very loyal to the party.


This is my last vote, however with this party...A party that really represents nothing anymore. The press and the Obama campaign have essentially run a relatively vicious anti-Hillary campaign and then reflected it back on her and her husband, saying that the vicious campaigning has all been them. They have also created the illusion that they are the political opportunists, when it is clear that they are no more so than the Obama campaign.

The attacks have been relentless. I am on Obama's mail list and will forward their most recent e-mail. I have recieved e-mails from them lumping her with McCain and attacking her as part of the "old" guard- an agist way of reminding people of his youth. They send me e-mails attacking her on Bosnia, on loans to her campaign, on making millions on books (which he has done too), etc. From her e-mail I have recieved only reminders that he has far more money than she does. No attacks.

He has called her whiny, given her the finger, called her emotional. His advocates have called her manipulative, suggesting Lady Mcbeth, presented neutral comments as racist even though her husband had the best civil rights record of any president in our history; have suggested that she is to blame for staying in the race. On the blogs, her supporters reiterate all of the false accusations disproven in the 90s- travelgate, whitewater, Vince Foster, etc. spewing hatred for her.

His campaign strategy included capitalizing on racial divides to win overwhelming victories and save his campaign in SC (see New Republic "Race Man" article) and other southern primary states, and taking advantage of the demographics and the small turnouts to win caucus states. He has worked against revotes in Florida and Michigan because they are not politically advantageous to him. Not exactly someone who rises above politics.

He makes claims suggesting the money sources of his campaign are "clean"- saying that the majority of his donors are small donors. He doesn't take money from PACs or lobbyists. He does not state that McCain-Fiengold capped this money at $2600 and that it makes up far less than 1% of HRC or even JM's money. Over 50% of his money has come from bundled donors- who may be less donors, but give more money. These groupings of people each giving the max $2600 include lobbyists and people in the banking, energy and pharmacuetical industry- just like the other 2 candidates.

He has presented lovely rhetoric, but his proposed policies have been less ambitious than hers have overall. He has not laid out a great deal of what he intends to do. He has not defined "change" in terms of what and how simply stating "yes, we can!" without defining "can what?". Despite this, the liberal establishment has backed him (I used to consider myself a liberal- now call me a leftist) mostly out of hatred for the Clintons.

When questionable judgement or political issues come up, he claims they are "the old politics" and is given a pass on them. Clearly the reason he was associated so strongly with a Rev. Wright that he called him a mentor and a spiritual leader in his books and named one after him was the policical convenience of having an "in" in the south side of Chicago- since his background (raised by white mom/grandmom in Hawaaii, prep school, etc.) did not connect well with the people he needed to win.

Meanwhile she has been labeled as the aggressive one and he is "above politics"...The narrative created has damaged her irreperably- which is particularly sad for the first female legitimate candidate in our history.

I am saddened by the way this went down-but will do what I have to to get Barak elected- just don't depend on me for the reelection (should he get that far- electorally it is going to be very hard for him).

Posted by: NYC Leon | May 8, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Think positively, folks, think Michelle Obama as First Lady.

Posted by: Rex | May 8, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Interesting take (and so few of these posts are even interesting). I certainly wouldn't put it beyond Hillary to run as an Independent. She's Joe Lieberman in a pantsuit. And you DO have a relatively weak GOP candidate, which encouraged Repubs to abandon him and go Lieberman. And God knows, Hillary doesn't give a d@mn about what other people think, as witness her proclivity to take Americans for fools.

Thing is, I think she takes more from McCain than Obama. Obama would have a united and suddenly energized party behind him (because fear does focus the mind). Clinton could not raise enough money as an Independent to match Obama or McCain. The GOTV organizations she's been renting across the country from pols like Bayh and Rendell would suddenly be unavailable to her. Her still-impressive number of endorsees would shrink to zero,; she would become absolutely HATED within the party apparatus. Her staff people would have to choose between her and having any future in the Dem party; the professional pol chooses party.

So, I have to question the totals. I cannot see CA going for anyone but the Dem. There are others I dispute; I'd certainly give you AR (which went for Wallace back in 68) and KY, WV, TN. NY, MA, NJ, PA, OH, MI, RI -- there are too many machine pols in those states to allow an Independent -- especially an underfinanced independent who would immediately be tagged as a spoiler -- to win. (You HAVE to give AZ to their own Senator, who won last time out with over 70% of the vote.) With Tim Kaine an early Obama supporter, and Mark Warner on the ballot, no way she'd win VA. Don't minimize the number of recent Clinton voters who were simply voting against Obama. They can't stand Hillary, they'll dump her in the GE. Mobilizing your base is everything. Obama has proven he can do that, and with virtually every Dem-leaning union and political machine behind him, he'd do just that. Meanwhile the white vote gets split between Hillary and McCain. That's a recipe for an Obama win. And BTW -- when it's two whites running against one black that's when the black guy usually wins. That's USUALLY the way the black guy wins. I frankly think his odds would INCREASE if she did that.

Obama's a phenomenon. I agree he wouldn't be where he is if the field wasn't so weak, but it is, and he is. George Will has approvingly called him the Dem Reagan. Karl Rove has expressed respect for his ability. (And now we have the answer to whether it is better to be liked, or to be feared. Hillary's feared; where's that gotten her?) Not only do I think he'll be the first black President, demographic trends being what they are, he'll be the ONLY black President. And the first woman President will be a member of his Administration. maybe after a generation in the wilderness, the GOP will get their act together, jettison the religious right nutbags, and return to the Reagan/Goldwater principles that led to the party's ascendancy in the 80s. Besides, being in power makes you lazy and arrogant. It did for the Dems.

Posted by: gbooksdc | May 8, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Obama is soon to be the next Andrew Jackson... The only president that will be worse than him is George Bush, but there will be nothing to brag about being just above George W. Bush.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

i would rather see a mccaine in the white house than obama . i trust macaine more than obama,imagine his associate hates america ane all that it stands for...yes they say say its not true well for 20 years obama was constantly given sermon of hate for america...no difference for terrorist who hate america...

Posted by: allan b. beltran | May 8, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Robert...another Aussie reader. Barack Obama will restore the moral integrity and leadership of the USA rather than continuing the gunboat diplomacy and schoolyard bully tactics of Bush and the gutter morals of Bill Clinton. I am sure Hillary Clinton is a wonderful lady and an astute politician but courtesy of her deadbeat husband, the Clintons owe too many favours to too many people. I am personally confident that I will see Barack Obama not only as your next President but one of your truely great leaders.

Posted by: John | May 8, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Michelle Obama does NOT belong in the white house.

Posted by: HillaryAllTheWay | May 8, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

NOTICE that here security is african american, i GUARNTEE thats not an accident...

Posted by: hmm | May 8, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

I'm up for it, because i am not voting for Obama if there no Clinton in the White House. Cannot stand seeing Pelosi or Obama running the show.. Clinton supporters forget the DNC lets vote McCain to protest how bad the DNC handled the primary.. How un democratic of an election it was..

Posted by: Vote for McCain | May 8, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Hillary should fight till the convention.

There is no reason that she needs to do any favors to either the Obama campaign or the democratic party, that has treated her so shabbily. Every single big name name democrat has ditched the Clintons, out of their own narrow political interests. Backstabbers all of them.

And she should never ever consider endorsing that empty suit from Illinois.

However, this fight is beyond her control. Even if she makes a half hearted ensorsement out of loyalty to the democratic party, there is no way a large number of Clinton supporters will ever vote NObama. We can never co exist with his gutter rat groupies. The place for gutter rats is in the gutter, and that is where the NObama groupies should look for support, not from Clinton supporters.

Posted by: intcamd | May 8, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

The only way the democrats will win come november is if BOTH Obama/Clinton are on the ticket.

Posted by: K.D. | May 8, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Just for the record, there was never going to be any revotes In Florida or Michigan. Hillary just threw that out like the gas tax thing. If it came to a revote then she says,"We don't need a revote because I have already". It was just a roose to make him look bad and the stupid public go for the tricks she tries to pull.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Obama Barrack to Florida and Michigan: Drop Dead

- Spoken in unison with Hilary and Edwards.

Posted by: laughinaloud | May 8, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse


This has been a great competition but what is Hillary's real intension? To win, or to have Obama lose?

With a graceful exit, she could secure respect. I really hope Obama wins.

Posted by: Vikash | May 8, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't vote for my mother if she didn't respect the flag and Country. Obama has shown that by not putting his hand over his heart and refusing to wear the flag pin. Enuff said!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Ptime | May 8, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Obama Barrack to Florida and Michigan: Drop Dead

Posted by: Tillie | May 8, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

As a Moderate Democrat I understand that both Obama and Clinton have their strong suits, would do great things for this country, and ultimately would change history.
However, it is clear that Clinton has resorted to playing dirty in the Primaries and she is not really playing by the rules either. How would rural America want someone like this is office? I was shocked at the results of this Primary every time I see the reports on CNN, MSNBC, or whatever new station I happen to be watching.
Clinton may have won the big states; but Obama still has more delegates even as she won the larger states.
Clinton staying in this race is damaging the Democratic party. It is becoming a divided party and as a party we all need to be unified to fight the Republicans come November. We cannot do so fighting each other.
Clinton really needs to become the bigger person and let the real fight begin.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Obama= Andrew Jackson
How many more cronies are going to be crawling around him....
I rather take my chances with McCain...

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Clinton supporters for McCain. Come June 3, if Obama steals the nomination from Hillary, Clinton supporters for McCain will be the largest segment of Independents and Swing Democrats.

Posted by: Aussie2020 | May 8, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

To the many white Americans who aren't racist these comments are not for you.

To those who are obviously so despite the theme, "I have a black friend" Or "I'd vote for #insert name# and he/she is black." get real.

To question Obama's feelings of white people based on his pastor is simply ignorance. Again... do you question the families of Catholics who attended or still attend churches where the pastor molested a child? I doubt it. I mean would you leave your child in their care? I think you would.

America unfortunately still has a race issue. This was a nice race even though in the beginning Hillary was pretty much being GIVEN the nomination. I think if the media hadn't put that in her and her supporters head she would have been gone now. Ego is keeping her in.

Her continued willingness to try and drag Obama's name in the mud makes me hope now that the dream ticket idea, at least with her on it, becomes a dead issue.
There are plenty of other women who he could choose from. I think if the media digs into it that would sit her behind down, because right now she act like she is the only person with her Bosnia self.

Posted by: Greg | May 8, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a cocky jerk. I will NOT vote for him come november and no that doesn't make me any less of a democrat. I simply cannot cast a vote for someone I do NOT believe in.

Posted by: Clintonallthe way | May 8, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a Joke.....
Soon to be the next Andrew Jackson....

Posted by: Historian of U.S. Presidents | May 8, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

If you live in Michigan or Florida guess what the Obamicans say? "You broke the rules, so you don't get to participate." As a registered democrat since 1978 I can only say I've not broken any rules.

--- the same thing Hilary said till she went down...actually she said you all didnt matter at all, so she left her name on the ballot.....

Posted by: laughinaloud | May 8, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

obama duke a uniter team

Posted by: philoernie | May 8, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Read about half of these posts and never once saw the word DEMOCRACY listed anywhere.

If you live in Michigan or Florida guess what the Obamicans say? "You broke the rules, so you don't get to participate." As a registered democrat since 1978 I can only say I've not broken any rules.

So here we are even before the general election and we see Obama's first major blunder on an important issue. He will be the first African American candidate to win through a black primary or male primary depending on your choice.

While elitist may revel in the irony of that, I'm personally sickened that rules are applied when the principle of DEMOCRACY cries out for a different outcome.

I'll either not vote for the first time or consider voting for McCain. And when I'll do that to send a message. And of all people Obama should understand it.

He talks about change all the time, a need for something new, and then like a coward he falls back on proceedure. GOOD FOR HIM. Proof that he is just the same ole.

And as to his policy positions, they seem second best to Hillary on health care, nothing at all in terms of foreign policy, and less than nothing on energy.

Posted by: michigan demo | May 8, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Hillary is the ONLY ONE for the job.

Posted by: K_! | May 8, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

I agree...this chaos and bickering and rule changing has got to stop. That's why I'm doing a write-in vote....for Ron Paul!

Posted by: Liberty Gal | May 8, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Do you really think Hillary won Indy? NO!

They GAVE that to her, paving the way for her to take a gracious exit.

They did not want to embarrass her.

Yes! Obama actually won Indy and NC.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Obama is not ready for the Repuglican attack machine. Besides, have you noticed he looks like J Fred Muggs? HRC will be ready to hit the ground running on Day One. You Go Girl.

Posted by: Geraldine | May 8, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Obama supporters are arrogant: Says the group of people willing to vote against their candidates beliefs if they dont win....lets sacrifice the country for our pride!

Posted by: laughinaloud | May 8, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Molly...you are NOT a true democrat if you would vote for McCain - who wants to destroy everything Democrats stand for (including your Social Security).

Posted by: Joyce | May 8, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

I hope Obama's security is on the lookout for unrefusable offers and/or nocturnal horseheads.

Posted by: mario | May 8, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Obama's supporters are not arrogant, they're just more educated

Posted by: flameaway | May 8, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

The Democrats are at it again...George McGovern..Michael Dukakis...John Kerry.. winners all. Right? Mr Obama will have a snowballs chance of uniting the Democratic party. So lets get ready for four more years of the Republicans. John Mcain for President and I would bet a sawbuck the v p running mate could well be Michael Bloomberg. Unfortunately,for the Democrats Mr Obama will join the ranks of Geroge, Michael and John. Another loser.

Posted by: headbones | May 8, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Between Hillary's and Obama's campaigns, how many thousands of organizers have been broken in? How many millions of new voters have been registered?

Even with the raw feelings supporters of the losing side must feel, the long-term benefits of this truly remarkable primary are likely to outweigh the current bitterness.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

I can see it now, if the tide turns and Hillary does WIN the nomination for some unforeseen reason, the black community will cry FOUL. It's just typical for a woman, to step back and let experience get trumped over "change".

Stereotyping I write? Yes, coming from a minority woman, this is just how it works in America.

Let's go back to the issues, line them up side by side and you'll see Hillary is just better for the country!

Posted by: Dragonlady | May 8, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Hillary panders...shamelessly
"My daddy taught me to shoot birds"
"I'm for the flag burning amendment"
"the Surge is working"
"the gas tax vacation will save the day"
Pandering..pandering..pandering.........

Posted by: obamama | May 8, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

All of the polls and the news media keep repeating that the educated people vote for Obama and the non educated people (stupid ones) vote for Clinton. I don't remember seeing any exit polls about this. It was put out by the pollsters early on. Zogby is on the Obama side..maybe others. I think that it's an unchallenged media assumption like the need to attack Iraq. I'm college educated and so is my 20 something daughter. She was for Obama in an earlier primary. I'm for Clinton. She now says that Obama is a phony. I haven't tried to influence her because I thought it was not possible because she is far to the left on thinking. She came to this conclusion on her own. I think that the assumptions, the public relations blitz, the trend lines and Democrat intelligensia assumptions are not going to hold true.

Posted by: I_Dont_Believe_It | May 8, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

from another blogger, the real Nuclear Option or Hell hath no fury, weapons free girl...

Hillary as the Monster Independent -

Yes, she has categorically said several times this week,
she's supporting the D nominee. But look at the contrary
aspect;

- Said as recently as 1998, didn't need to be in political
office to effect social change. Ergo, Senate run in 2000
was a decision to set up for President 2008. Clearly.
4 more Senate years completing this term, may be all
she's interested in anyway. Not too much downside to
bolting party.

- Hillary is a loyalty-first type of person. Her White House
office didn't leak whereas Bill's did, for that reason. She
demands it. That is how an overmatched Patti Solis-Doyle,
went from her appointment setter in the 90's, to her
campaign manager this decade.

She would at this point, be privately livid at Ted Kennedy,
John Kerry, Tom Daschle, Nancy Pelosi, Jimmy Carter, Bill
Richardson, Howard Dean and now even George McGovern -
for supporting someone who; looked the other way on
racial divisiveness for 20 years, then runs as a uniter
with superior judgment & to whom words matter, who
has only lightweight Progressive credentials.

It would be preposterous to her - as it also is to her
millions of supporters. Obama doesn't even stand for
Universal Health Insurance, for chrissakes...

So she feels no obligations to the party at this point -
bank that.

Now consider that somebody puts these following numbers
in front of her. Projecting states won in a 3-candidate race,
here is the best guess of electoral totals;


Obama -

IL 21, OR 7, WA 11, MN 10, WI 10, LA 9, MD 10, CT 7, VT 3, ME 4, HI 4, WDC 3 = 99

McCain -

TX 34, OK 7, AK 3, ID 4, UT 5, MT 3, WY 3, KS 6, NE 5, SD 3, ND 3, MS 6, AL 9, GA 15, SC 8 = 114

Hillary -

CA 55, NV 5, NM 5, AR 6, KY 8, WVA 5, MI 17, OH 20, PA 21, FL 27, NY 31, NJ 15, MA 12, RI 4, NH 4, DE 3 = 238

Grabs -

CO 9, IA 7, TN 11, VA 13, MO 11, IN 11, AZ 10, NC 15


TOTAL 538

NEED 180 / 3-candidate election

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

I really hope Obama does not choose Hillary Clinton for his vice presidential candidate. It's the Bill factor. Bill Clinton can be very destructive when he starts shooting his mouth off....just ask his wife. And I think he is very angry at Obama for ruining the Clintons' "entitlement."

Posted by: Joyce | May 8, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Oh my PC, you sound so very AFRAID. Why don't you go buy Obama's books and READ them before you decide what is in this man's heart. That would be a step in the right direction..

Posted by: White Girl for Obama | May 8, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

You think if Obama puts any old woman on the ticket us women will fall in line? LOLOLOLOL

Get real. If he gets the nomination if's because the dems feared race riots.

I'm a dem who can't wait for Obama to get a beating from McCain. I push mute whenever his stammering stuttering arrogant self comes on TV.

Posted by: Molly | May 8, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Abe Lincoln lives, and he's for Obama!!!

Posted by: dfout | May 8, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

This is from your lede:

At a time when the Hillary Clinton faces ever longer odds in her quest to deny Barack Obama the nomination, that question has becoming increasingly important to the candidates and the party.

Do they no longer have copy editors at the Post?

Posted by: Mr. Shocked | May 8, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Well, as long as everybody agree on what the end is going to look like. The Clintons had a terrific run: 8 years in the White House, and already 8 years in the Senate. That's something to be proud of. Unfortunately their time has come. We all know what the right thing to do is now. It's not the number of supers or the polls pitting Clinton/Obama against McCain. It's just time to move on, and give a huge thank you to the Clintons.

Posted by: cestfini | May 8, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Hillary is assuring no graceful way out by here racist campaign. She needs to get out right after Ky and WV. I ask her supporters- how could we stand 4 years of whining, yelling, fighting, and unkept promises. With her you will have that and worse.

Posted by: Peter777 | May 8, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

i am ashamed to be an american at this present day and time to witness the hate bigotry,division and ignorace by us americans. we are suppose to be the united states but we are all divided, and we have the audacity to call ourselves the greatess country. we have done many great things and there are many great things about america, but we still have a long way to go to secure a good future for our kids. The nonsense that is goin on in this race shouldnt be happening but because a man that is not white is running for president it is. im not an obama supporter, im not a hillary supporetr and im not a mcain supporter i support a candidate that is strong and smart enough to make right decisions for our country to move forward.

Posted by: lokki | May 8, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Hillary should go home and stop trying to change the rules to suit herself, this is what Bush and his cronies have done. It looks like she is just like them. No wonder it is hard to trust her.

Posted by: bruce | May 8, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Obama will never win the election. Hillary
is our only hope!!!!!!!!

Posted by: pc | May 8, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

God speed Mr. Obama....God speed Mr. President

Posted by: A.Lincoln | May 8, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Clinton's experiance

1) named one America's most influential lawyers: needless to say this wasn't on behalf the little people.

2). First lady

3) JUNIOR Senator from New York.

You can't have it both ways: claim that she's more experianced AND neglect the fact that she was a succesful corporarte lawyer.

Posted by: What experiance? | May 8, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Id like to see the bullying that Obama has been doing to Hilary....or what times Hilary stood up against close family and friends for those she had personal disagreements with....you know like nafta as first lady....wait......hmmmmmmmm.......

or maybe they are both politicians and people need to stop sippin the kool-aide before it kills the country.....

Posted by: laughinaloud | May 8, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

And since Obama didn't want Florida's votes, trust me he won't be getting them. He will never win Florida. I live in the most liberal part of the state, and the jewish community here won't vote for him...period..after the Wright and Farrakhan nonsense. Hillary voters unite to defeat Obama!!!

Posted by: No chance | May 8, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and enough rev. Wright already.
Did any one look up Hillarys pastor? You know, the one that was recently sentenced to 3 years for molesting a 7 year old?

Posted by: herb | May 8, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

This has to be the most hilarious post I have read all night. I want some of what this guy has been smoking:


"Some on the left have said that this race war dividing the country has to stop - that is until this particular contest is decided.

Then the left will happily divide the country over race - as they have been for 50 years.

No leftist has ever done as much for minorities as has the right. No leftist has ever appointed minorities to real positions of power as has the right.

Yet they cheerfully and with clear conscience blame all of America's race issues on the right.

Pretty disgusting bunch."

Posted by: Maria | May 8, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Hillary will not be his VP.

There are simply ...too many other "Qualified Female Executives.

Just think. If Obama had not come along and exposed her...we would have been seeing...Bosnia Snipers in the WH.

Posted by: Gerry Feraro | May 8, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Hillary is going to win the vote at the DNC Rules Committee on May 31 - that will cut Obama's lead in half.
Hillary will win West Virginia.
Hillary will win Kentucky
If Obama offends the Superdelegates by acting like their votes do not count, and rather only the pledged delegates count, the Superdelegates may have a message back for him.
Posted by: Words of Wisdom | May 8, 2008 8:27 PM

Hehehe I've got nothing to add, I just thought everyone would enjoy reading it again.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

When Obama speaks of the Wasington Insiders
is he speaking of the Super Delegates that
are supporting him. How can they choose Obama over Hillary if all the votes are not
counted. If the Rev. Wright story came out
sooner he would not be were he is today.
He is winning because of the black vote!!!!
He will never carry the white women, blue
collar voters. I as a Democrat will never
vote for him not because he is black but
because I am not sure how he really feels
about White People. If Mayor Nutter was running for President I would vote for him,
and he is black. So this is not a BLACK thing. He sure had poor judgement when he
chose his wife. I do believe she would be
the one running the show!!!!!!!!

Posted by: pc | May 8, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Didn't y'all get enough of the Clinton antics over "his" 8 year reign? What a fiasco. An what pride they (he) brought the the presidency.
If I'd have to see him as first lady, I'd puke. It would definitely be a 4 year boycott on CNN. Can't stand either one (Clintons).
I'm white mid 40's, self employed and I'll vote for Obama. The truth is what we need.

Posted by: herb | May 8, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

We are sunk in November if Obama is the nominee. He and his supporters are arrogant and he's inexperienced and totally vulnerable with his lack of candor and character over Wright for 20 years. We need a president with the strength to stand up to hatred. He and they will continue to try to push Hillary out and us Hillary supporters will leave Obama behind in droves. I WANT him to lose..I WANT him to lose badly in November and so do most Hillary supporters I know. We can't stand him or his bullying supporters and I'd like nothing more than for him to lose. I've never voted republican, but I'm one of those 48% of Hillary voters who will be moving to the other side. Maybe Obama is right. He doesn't need us. He believes he can be elected by blacks and young kids and the most liberal wing of the dem. party. Conventional wisdom says no, but hey, he can prove us wrong. He is divisive, he is weak, and I'm disgusted that he gamed caucuses so he has a few more delegates and might get the nomination despite not being able to hold the states we need in the fall. His electoral map isn't looking too good. One good to come of this might be the dems getting rid of the Jesse rule that possibly is giving Obama the nomination. It's no way to choose a strong candidate.

Posted by: Sarah | May 8, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

No one who has spoken against hillary has called her indecisive or airheaded...in fact she has played those cards politically to get votes. she comes across as hard, demanding and cold to most people...but i guess if u want to claim sexism we could discuss why rural whites are voting against the black guy.....

Posted by: laughinaloud | May 8, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

JakeD: You better go...isn't Hannity on Fox right now?

Posted by: Sick of Trolls | May 8, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of "end game" who wants to play the GAME where you insert objects into my rear END? I am HORNY for a full-on Hillary DIANE Clinton strap-on romp! My anus just salivated thinking about it! ; )

Talk about how Clinton supporters are "deeply hurt" reminds me of one time with one of those Gigantic Cucumbers.

THAT was CRAZY!!

Even the Obamabots would have liked THAT one.

Posted by: JakeD | May 8, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Hey, she's just staying the course.

Posted by: MaryS | May 8, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a politician. For better or worse. Clinton is no better a person and has a longer history of proving she is no more than a politician too. You can have a preference. But there will be only one nominee. If you are a Democrat who can't vote for Obama or Hillary in the General and say you'll even vote for McCain instead, you are what's wrong with this county. Polarized like a knucklehead and no good to anything getting any better around here. That goes for Sunny Florida and John the mcCain Democrat.

Posted by: squaredeal | May 8, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Hillary can run out the remaining primaries, but if she can't close the deal with delegates (which is probably the case), then that's it.

Posted by: No one is owed the presidency | May 8, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Obama will win the nomination because of his appeal to the youth, independent and liberal vote. His general election success will depend on him keeping the independents and courting the blue collar vote through Clinton's support. Without it, he'll lose, with it, he'll win. His performance in some of the non-caucus states is a huge concern - people often vote differently outside of the caucus atmosphere. He appeals to the younger voter and has large audiences since it plays well to his skills as an orator and overly simplistic slogans. If he's planning on winning the Presidency he needs to expand the depth of his catch phrases, "Change" and "Hope" are not going to take him this far in the general election

Posted by: Realist | May 8, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Dear Hillary Supporters,

As a die-hard, always had a crush on Bill Clinton kind of girl, we have to ask ourselves, "How can Hillary win against McCain if she can't win against Obama?"

I appreciate and respect the love and passion you have for her (I really only had a crush on Bill), you must accept the fact that obviously a MAJORITY of the voters simply disagree with you. No worries and don't take it personally. It's not you. It was just something about Hill.

It is my hope that your dashed hopes do not turn into bitterness. Just like we teach children . . . follow the rules, work hard, and earn the rewards you seek. And remember, no cheating and play nice.

Now, didn't Obama do that? Be fair.
(And yes, I still have a crush on Bill!)

djewel

Posted by: djewel | May 8, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Some on the left have said that this race war dividing the country has to stop - that is until this particular contest is decided.

Then the left will happily divide the country over race - as they have been for 50 years.

No leftist has ever done as much for minorities as has the right. No leftist has ever appointed minorities to real positions of power as has the right.

Yet they cheerfully and with clear conscience blame all of America's race issues on the right.

Pretty disgusting bunch.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Frankly I'm not surprised to see that Obama is looking like the winner for the Democratic Party Line. When all the dazzle and glamour is cast aside, the choice comes down to the question; "Black Guy or Woman?" As a country, America still enjoys stereotyping people; Black guys may be looked upon as aggresive hood types but, they're also considered macho and cool. Condsider how popular Gangsta' Rap is; how accepted it is. Obama might not be a Gangsta' but he's black, so it rubs on so to speak. Women on the other hand(especially upper /upper middle class women) are still considered indecisive and airheaded in general. It's an unfair stereotype but, it's still very much true, I think. As a nation, America is young and immature. Americans, generally, still vote for their presidents mostly on the basis of "gut feeling" and less on sincere consideration of issues. In short, America isn't ready for a "Thatcher" but they're more than willing to pin their hopes on a "Denzel".

Posted by: Tony Navarro | May 8, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Ahhh, Sunny Florida. Please define "elitist" for me?

You are speaking in Rove.

Posted by: Can't Understand Why Hillary Supporters are so VERY Bitter | May 8, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

I'm Jewish too and I'm for Obama all the way.

Abraham Lincoln was also considered a dangerous radical who was unelectable. But his superior intellect and integrity won the day and his place in history.

Lincoln had a "Jeremiah Wright" too: John Brown. It was widely blogged (well, y'know the 19th c equivalent) that his association with John Brown would SINK him politically.

Obama is smart, and decent. He's shown amazing resilience. And he hasn't stooped to the extreme negative stuff.

Posted by: another obama voter | May 8, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of "end game" who wants to play the GAME where you insert objects into my rear END? I am HORNY for a full-on Hillary DIANE Clinton strap-on romp! My anus just salivated thinking about it! ; )

Talk about how Clinton supporters are "deeply hurt" reminds me of one time with one of those Gigantic Cucumbers.

THAT was CRAZY!!

Even the Obamabots would have liked THAT one.

Posted by: JakeD | May 8, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Hillary was the most unattractive choice for the White House ever, and being a woman had nothing to do with it. If there was any doubt about the self-serving, slash and burn, moral relativist Clintons, Hillary dispelled those doubts during her campaign. Now, it's becoming downright embarrassing, this self-delusional candidate, who would not go away. This is now a spectacle and what we are witnessing is no longer admirable in any light. If she is allowed on the Democratic Party ticket in any capacity the Republicans win. It's that simple!

Posted by: Chatacter Counts | May 8, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Bickering between two candidates causes bickering on a news forum!

I hate primaries

Posted by: anonymous | May 8, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Screw them all. NADER FOR PRESIDENT!

Posted by: Matthew | May 8, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

From Sally Quinn. She nails it-- the Clinton's would get clobberd by the Rebulicans.:

"I think you have to speak out against that," said Hillary Clinton. "You certainly have to do that, if not explicitly, then implicitly by getting up and moving."

Clinton was talking about what she would have done had she been in Jeremiah Wright's church.
But would she have?

The former first lady has her own Jeremiah Wright. His name is Bill Clinton.

"You don't choose your family but you choose what church you want to attend," she said.
But you do choose your husband.

She chose Bill Clinton. And she has not gotten up and moved.

Instead, she has enabled him over the last 32 years of their marriage, not only standing by him, denying what she knew about his womanizing and trying to delegitimize those who told the truth about it. In fact, it became such a constant in the campaign that his chief of staff Betsey Wright only half jokingly referred to these episodes as "bimbo eruptions."

About one girlfriend, Connie Hamzy, she said,,"We have to destroy her story." About Gennifer Flowers she denied the story even after having a tape played on television about it. It was "attack the motives and the details,"said former Clinton press secretary Dee Dee Myers told Sally Bedell Smith, author of "For Love of Politics" (ever wonder why so many former Clintonites are not supporting her or are actively supporting Obama? And what about Senate colleagues?). He was accused of sexually harassing Kathleen Willey. He was accused of rape by Juanita Broderick, exposed himself to Paula Jones and finally had a sexual relationship with a 21 year old White House intern, a few years older than his own daughter. When Clinton gave his famous finger wagging speech, lying to the country that "I did not have sexual relations with that woman," Hillary was by his side. "That was Clinton at his cold-blooded worst," former Clinton administration official George Stephanopoulos later wrote. Now, full of self righteous fury, he was lying with true conviction. All that mattered was his survival." And he survived, for one reason only. Hillary Clinton supported him, denied the stories, and allowed White House operatives like Sidney Blumenthal to try to shred the characters of the women he had dallied with, particularly Monica Lewinsky who was portrayed as a stalker and a temptress.

Hillary did not get up and move.

She stood with him while he put their daughter through the most painful, humiliating and embarrassing time of her life. She watched while he squandered the last two years of his administration concentrating on saving himself. She spent days helping prepare for his grand jury testimony in which he repeatedly lied. She was there for his contempt of court citation for lying about Lewinsky and for his impeachment, for his plea bargain which cost him his law license for five years and for his pardon of criminal fugitive and political donor Marc Rich.
She did not get up and move.

Now she is running for President.

When he likened Obama's win in South Carolina to that of Jesse Jackson's years ago, when he described Obama's record of opposing the war in Iraq as "the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen " and when he accused the Obama campaign playing "the race card " against him, he succeeded in polarizing the democratic electorate. Caught off mike, he then said, "I don't think I should take any (expletive) from anybody like that."

Later he denied having said it, "no, no no, that's not what I said. You always follow me around and play these little games," he said to a reporter, "and I'm not going to play your games today...You have mischaracterized it to get another cheap story to divert the American people from the real urgent issues before us"

He got red faced and angry when New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson endorsed Obama, declaring that Five times to my face he said he would never do that." Richardson denied that. Hillary was criticized for making up a story and repeating it several times about being under sniper fire in Bosnia, when in fact she took her daughter Chelsea and was greeted on the tarmac by a young child carrying flowers. Bill Clinton remarked, "And I think she was the first lady since Eleanor Roosevelt to go into a combat zone"... (untrue), And some of them, when they're 60, they'll forget something when they're tired at 11 at night, too."

Still, she did not get up and move.

We can only guess what Bill Clinton has up his sleeve next to embarrass and humiliate his wife. More bimbo eruptions? More suspicious deals with foreign governments and questionable business associates? The release of the names of big donors to the Clinton Library and the Clinton Foundation? More painfully conflicted not so subtle put downs of her?

The Clintons have been lucky. Obama has not brought up any of these issues in this campaign. But if the Democrats are afraid of what the Republicans would do in the fall to Obama with Jeremiah Wright, just imagine the glee with which they and Karl Rove are anticipating the Clintons as opponents. Why do you think they are so hard on Obama? Obama is not nearly as vulnerable as Hillary Clinton would be. Besides, Barack Obama completely broke off his relationship with Wright. He got up and moved. Hillary has not.

Should she, will she, can she?

Yes she can. Yes she can. Yes she can.

Posted by: dingo | May 8, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Hillary was the most unattractive choice for the White House ever, and being a woman had nothing to do with it. If there was any doubt about the self-serving, slash and burn, moral relativist Clintons, Hillary dispelled those doubts during her campaign. Now, it's becoming downright embarrassing, this self-delusional candidate, who would not go away. This is now a spectacle and what we are witnessing is no longer admirable in any light. If she is allowed on the Democratic Party ticket in any capacity the Republicans win. It's that simple!

Posted by: Character Counts | May 8, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I don't understand this whole "The Blacks Did It" Theory. Even in NC, they make up 1/3 of the Democratic voters, but Hillary got Torched by 15%.

That means, even with 100% of the Black vote, --which Obama didn't get--She got whooped in the White vote, too. Or he should have lost by 66%, NO?

Why does it matter, anyway. The rules are the rules and it's over and that's good.

Posted by: Moveon | May 8, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

*SIGH* It will take Hillary to fix the mess Bush made, that Clinton started, the Bush helped setup...that mess?

Please can we just switch to a monarchy and get it over with then?

and personally I think she should as long as she can afford it, but dont try to change the rules, and lie about what you said, in order to extend your bid.

Posted by: laughinaloud | May 8, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Alee21: You are so misinformed it is painful to read your comments.

Go ahead and vote for McCain if you are too lazy to pick up a newspaper and educate yourself on WHY Florida and Michigan got sanctioned by the DNC (not punished somehow by Obama not "allowing a revote"- as if he has control over that!).

You want to try and twist things around so that Clinton running a totally crappy and short-sighted campaign becomes Obama taking advantage of those darn "unfair" caucuses? I guess Hillary was just too stupid to understand how caucuses work even after her vast 35 years of experience in Democratic politics? Give me a break. And for every example of you trying to say Obama "cried racism", I will find you ten of Hillary tearing up, whining about the boys "ganging up" on her or the media being unfair.

If this is your case for her to remain in this battle when she has clearly lost, it does not hold water.

Posted by: marSF | May 8, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

"Obama's team will not agree to anything that jeopardizes the nomination." how about "Obama played by the rules"??

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

I've always been a staunch Republican. Fed up with Bush, McCain's just another Bush. Decided was time to look at Democrates. Obama is really the only game in town. Clinton's off in her own little "must win at any cost" world making up rules as she goes. If this is what she will do to win the nomination, I can't imagine what she, as president, would do to show her power and have her way. One simply can not trust politicians. Back to McCain I guess. Dennis Dornfeld

Posted by: Dennis Dornfeld | May 8, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

The only party that JakeD belongs to is the kind that has the booze. He's just as offensive to us Republicans as he is to you Democrats. He's like a mangy dog. All he wants is attention, but he's so filthy no one wants to touch him. He'll end up drowning in his own sewer.

Posted by: Thor | May 8, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

The other possibility is that Hillary is staying in to throw more support towards McCain on behalf of the people who support her and him.

Posted by: Web Smith | May 8, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

The "Twofers" (aka the 'HillBillys') have a way of getting their way, or 'wagging the dog'-- know what I mean? Some folks commit suicide, some go to jail and never say why, some have heart-attacks of various kinds, some settle for a pardon, or a romp in the Lincoln Bedrooom, some like to pray on their knees in the "Clinton's" Oval Office, etc. etc. Let's hope and really pray that the Secret Service detail that's guarding O'Bama has some "Insiders" over at Hill & Bill's Campaign HQ. Slick and his candidate "wife" are real wizards at getting their way; just look what they did to Gore's brain. It wouldn't surprise me if a plane load of Ben Laden terrorists fell out of the sky in a 747 and hit O'Bama and 10,000 of his supporters the night of the Oregon Primary or -barring that nightmare- O'Bama announces that he's withdrawning and turning all his deligates over to H.R.H. (Her Royal Highness) because he's seen the light and knows that she's the one who should be El Presidente.

Posted by: Bleithe Spirit | May 8, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Why should Hillary quit? Who has the right to make Hillary quit? Who in the world seriously believes that Obama will change politics, what a fairy tale! Meet the new boss, who's the same as the old boss. It will take a Hillary to fix the mess that idiot Bush created.

Posted by: Me | May 8, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Jack, you annoying dunce,

stop over posting. nobody cares about who they "Should" nominate. It's who wins the Primaries, remember?

She lost. It's Over. Obama can easily beat McCain. Look at him!

He looks like he sleeps in a coffin.

Posted by: Stacey Sinclair, Grand Rapids, IL | May 8, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Hillary ran a brutally inept, bungling campaign. She was a terrible executive officer for it. How do you go from First Lady to an overwhelmingly popular President, with all your fund-raising power, a 30 point lead in the polls, all your gold-plated connections to the Democratic elite, and wind up not only losing but going broke to a former Illinois nobody? It's a blessing she will not reach the White House. She would make another huge mess.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

By all means, she should continue to run till at least June. This way, she has to dip into some of Bill's ill-gotten millions he got by peddling unethically the influence and connections he gathered from his White House years. That would be poetic justice indeed! She is bound to lose in the end anyway but this way, Hill and Bill will lose some their $109 million also!!!

Posted by: kant | May 8, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Its time for the Dems to recognize that this ongoing primary is hurting the democratic party. Hillary has every right to continue in the way that Huckabee continued despite knowing that the fight was lost. But Obama and the rest of the Dems should turn their attention to competing against McCain. If Hillary wants to tear down her party during that time, there will be no one but her to blame for the Republican dominance that results.

Its time to unite. Hillary supporters and Obama supporters care about the same issues. Its ego that drives Hillary on, and its time to put it aside and unite. Obama supporters arent gloating. We are just asking that democrats focus on the republicans now.

Posted by: Mo | May 8, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

yes! its all black peoples fault....its that darn 15% of the total population that is doing it...they are the reason....*sigh*

when will people wise up. Maybe Obama (a black male) can speak to what blacks in america feel better than hillary (a white woman)....nah Im talking crazy, must be the minorities keepin the man(or woman) down....

Posted by: laughinaloud | May 8, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Obama only needs 167 more delegates.

tick-tick-tick....I predict a mass migration of super delegates, making it a
FLOCK TO BARACK weekend.

Posted by: Joyce | May 8, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Hillary is going to win the vote at the DNC Rules Committee on May 31 - that will cut Obama's lead in half.


Hillary will win West Virginia.

Hillary will win Kentucky

If Obama offends the Superdelegates by acting like their votes do not count, and rather only the pledged delegates count, the Superdelegates may have a message back for him.

Posted by: Words of Wisdom | May 8, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of "end game" who wants to play the GAME where you insert objects into my rear END? I am HORNY for a full-on Hillary DIANE Clinton strap-on romp! My anus just salivated thinking about it! ; )

Posted by: JakeD | May 8, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Hillary, on the other hand, anything can be thrown at her, she is bullet proof, she has no skeleton in the closet.


Oh I agree. Look at all the bullets she deflected in Bosnia. She is something else!

Posted by: Patrick | May 8, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

and the race to see who is less electable:

A black man who believes there is still inequality in America....or a white woman who has been fighting with the GOP since she left them in college....

or an old white man who is hated by his own party....

let the race to the bottom begin.

Posted by: laughinaloud | May 8, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Among the many appropriate options that Hillary may consider after this lengthy presidential election season is that of a teaching co-career at Wellesley College. When she returned to the campus recently, it was clear that she was enjoying the experience, and also obvious that the students adored her and observed her every word. What a model!

Hillary could fit a visiting stint at Wellesley around her main commitment in Washington as a Senate leader (she would be especially good on domestic issues, above all those with special meaning for women and children) or in Albany, if she should decide to toss her hat in the ring for a coming gubernatorial bout followed by service in an executive capacity.

Posted by: Pat | May 8, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Obama only leads in delegates because there is a racial divide, and 90 % of black people voted for him mostly because they want one of their own in White House, and that's fine but

Here is the question!


Who do you think black people would vote for, if Obama was not in the race at all

Hilary of course!!!!

So the Answer is here in front of your eyes, Hillary with all her votes and plus Obamas black support would give her definitely wining score

She would eat McCain for breakfast and win the presidency for democrats

Whist on the other hand, Sadly only 40 % of Hillarie's supporters would vote for Obama , thus making him extremely weak candidate against McCain
And its obvious that Obama can not attract those needed white people that supports Hillary

So even if Obama is now ahead of Hillary in delegates, due to support from massive vote from black people

SADLY, HE STILL DOESN NOT STAND A CHANCE AGAINST MCCAIN

AND IT LOOKS DEMOCRATIC PARTY WOULD RATHER NOMINATE OBAMA AND LOOSE AGAINST MCCAIN ,THEN NOMINATE HILLARY AND WIN THE PRESIDENCY

HOW SAD

Posted by: jack | May 8, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Obama only leads in delegates because there is a racial divide, and 90 % of black people voted for him mostly because they want one of their own in White House, and that's fine but

Here is the question!


Who do you think black people would vote for, if Obama was not in the race at all

Hilary of course!!!!

So the Answer is here in front of your eyes, Hillary with all her votes and plus Obamas black support would give her definitely wining score

She would eat McCain for breakfast and win the presidency for democrats

Whist on the other hand, Sadly only 40 % of Hillarie's supporters would vote for Obama , thus making him extremely weak candidate against McCain
And its obvious that Obama can not attract those needed white people that supports Hillary

So even if Obama is now ahead of Hillary in delegates, due to support from massive vote from black people

SADLY, HE STILL DOESN NOT STAND A CHANCE AGAINST MCCAIN

AND IT LOOKS DEMOCRATIC PARTY WOULD RATHER NOMINATE OBAMA AND LOOSE AGAINST MCCAIN ,THEN NOMINATE HILLARY AND WIN THE PRESIDENCY

HOW SAD

Posted by: jack | May 8, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

I have been a lifelong Democrat, proud of the values and ideals the party stands for. Now, I am disappointed, disenfranchised (yea, I am one of the "no vote counts" Floridians) and really ticked off at the debacle our party has made of the whole primary season. Had we done it like Republicans, there would be a clear winner already (actually, long ago) and we would not have had this long battle. On the good side, it allows all of us to see what each candidate is made of, good and bad, and how they respond to stress, scrutiny and missteps. So play it out. I for one, will not vote for Obama, and regardless of what HIllary says if she doesn't get the nomination, God forbid, I can never, in good conscience, vote for an inexperienced, elitist, politican who says one thing, and does another behind closed doors. I just won't vote. Period. Many, many Floridians and Clinton supporters feel the same way. Good luck.

Posted by: Sunny Florida | May 8, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

As a former republican turned democrat, I turned for Hillary. If my choice is Obama, the man with no stance on anything, always willing to debate the points but, never debating, I will switch back to republican.

Posted by: Dennis | May 8, 2008 8:24 PM | Report abuse

"Hillary is not loosing"

she said.

Berl is not spelling, either.

Posted by: You are not in this Reality | May 8, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton is the sorriest excuse for a Democrat since Zell Miller. She is destroying the party because of her massive ego and her narcissism. I'm white and I'm female but I will never under any circumstances vote for Hillary Clinton. She disgusts me.

Posted by: SusanL | May 8, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

"Hillary is not loosing"

she said.

Berl is not spelling, either.

Posted by: You are not in this Reality | May 8, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

"Hillary is not loosing"

she said.

Berl is not spelling, either.

Posted by: You are not in this Reality | May 8, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

i am white. i am a carpenter a farmer and fisherman.. i work hard... very hard... every day... i will vote for obama.

Posted by: carpenter | May 8, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

actually beri: Bill Clinton of course!

the support for Hillary is based off of bill in the black community, and Edwards was gaining ground, its simply the fact that Obama blew him out the water as he gained real attention and name recognition.

Also all dems do bad with white souther rural voters....so lets not act like this is just Obama....also if they are voting on issues, they will not vote Mccain... I think more personal issues and biases will dictate this election more than anything else, it will be interesting though

Posted by: laughinaloud | May 8, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

No with mood of all democrats Hillary cant win nomination sadly she would defo win general election for she is stronger against McCain

why for if there was no obama in the race all this black people would suport her instead , and she attracts wider range of voters

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Dear Jim Jewsuf,

That's not helpful. Many Jews do support Obama, so what are you talking about?

If you are referring to AIPAC, which is the neoconservative face of the Israeli Lobby, they hate him because he doesn't say he will Obliterate Iran. He doesn't care about Israel, which is a big risk in US politics.

But the whole "hook Nose" thing is not good. Would you like it if I, a black man, referred to you as "phallicly challenged?"

I should think not. Let's do unto others as you would have them do unto you, there Whitey, OK?

Posted by: Tyronne L. Kimbo | May 8, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Hillary is continuing her run so that she can step into the nomination in the unlikely event that a revelation tanks Obama before the convention and (more realistically) solidify her position as the frontrunner in 2012. Think about it: if she truly believes Obama will lose in November, than she's in optimal position for a 'told-you-so' run in 2012. If McCain's age doesn't limit him to 1 term, then the ongoing budgetary and Iraq fiascos should do the trick. If Hillary is right, then she could be in an even stronger position in 2012.
(this from an obama supporter)

Posted by: posner | May 8, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

I'm a democrat, and I'll most likely be voting for McCain. When it comes down to it, he supports the issues that are important to me and have been largely ignored by republicans until now: the environment, stem cell research, a fair solution to immigration, and in all honesty, he's probably the one to fix the mess in Iraq and get us out of there. When I listen to Obama speak, it sounds more like a pep talk than thoughtful solutions to complex problems. He just seems like he's a lot better at running for President than actually being President.

Posted by: John | May 8, 2008 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Hillary is not loosing, its the fact that whole black population is voting for Obama , and with such strong racial divide , she is doing superb....

if Obama was not in the race at all,
who do you think that black people would vote for ?

Hillary of course ! and with what she already scored in delegates and plus black people support she would eat McCain for breakfast , and that's why she would be strongest candidate for Democrats

On contrary Obama cant attract even 40% of Hillary's supporter and thus he will loose presidency if nominated

His lead against Hillary now means nothing on general election

Posted by: beri | May 8, 2008 8:17 PM | Report abuse

If the advertisers start requiring cash from the Clinton campaign, she should be in trouble. They try to keep their finances as secret as possible, but she has reportedly loaned her campaign over 12 million and owes more than 10. I would expect vendors to quit vending without payment and contributions to dry up. A realistic person would look for a graceful exit.

Posted by: Javalation | May 8, 2008 8:17 PM | Report abuse

What is all this talk about "Games?"

This thing is over, ask Steppinoutforabit. Even he knows it. Hillary knows it, too. it's all semantics.

Even here own supporters on here are talking about her in the past tense. what's done is done.

Move on. She'll Bow out after her next victory to save face. She's already trying to help Obama. She's not Dumb.

Posted by: Svreader | May 8, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

"Hillary, on the other hand, anything can be thrown at her"
Posted by: | May 8, 2008 8:12 PM

....execpt a primary! LOL - She can't even win that when she started with a 40point lead. Almost anyone else would have done better.

Posted by: Franky | May 8, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

it is time for her to get the ****** out.

She can not win. She is hurting Obama.

And, because of her, we may end up wih 4 more years of BUSH III (better know as mccain)

Posted by: joaquin | May 8, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Why do the OLD hook nose Jews hate OBAMA

Posted by: Jim Jewsuf | May 8, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

to the GOP Hilary is a skeleton in the closet....do u all understand how many repubs want Hilary in office, just cause it will make the base support McCain....

Posted by: laughinaloud | May 8, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

John said:

"Many of the older women who are the core of Clinton's support will probably sit out rather than vote for Obama, especially after he filpped her the bird twice"

First of all, Obama didn't flip off anyone, unless you are half blind and think that scratching your face with two fingers is the same thing as a profane gesture. Nice try, are you really going to keep that idiocy going?

And, all the "older women" who you think will be so "bruised" by the "unfair" treatment Hillary gets in the media are not going to throw their feminist principles overboard and vote for Grampy McCain. Not when the Supreme Court is at stake. Everyone likes to get all indignant and puffed up while they defend their "gal" but when reality hits they are not going to throw this country under the bus because their "feelings" got hurt.

Posted by: Elitist Latte Drinker | May 8, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

[edit] Impeachment
In 1981, Hastings was charged with accepting a $150,000 bribe in exchange for a lenient sentence and a return of seized assets for 21 counts of racketeering by Frank and Thomas Romano, and of perjury in his testimony about the case. He was acquitted by a jury after his alleged co-conspirator, William Borders, refused to testify in court (resulting in a jail sentence for Borders).
In 1988, the Democratic-controlled U.S. House of Representatives took up the case, and Hastings was impeached for bribery and perjury by a vote of 413-3. Voters to impeach included Democratic Representatives Nancy Pelosi, Steny Hoyer, John Conyers and Charles Rangel. He was then convicted in 1989 by the United States Senate, becoming the sixth federal judge in the history of the United States to be removed from office by the Senate. The vote on the first article was 69 for and 26 opposed, providing five votes more than the two-thirds of those present that were needed to convict. The first article accused the judge of conspiracy. Conviction on any single article was enough to remove the judge from office. The Senate vote cut across party lines, with Senator Patrick J. Leahy, Democrat of Vermont voting to convict his fellow party member, and Arlen Specter voting to acquit.[1]
The Senate had the option to forbid Hastings from ever seeking federal office again, but did not do so. Alleged co-conspirator, attorney William Borders went to jail again for refusing to testify in the impeachment proceedings, but was later given a full pardon by BILL CLINTONon his last day in office.[2]
Hastings filed suit in federal court claiming that his impeachment trial was invalid because he was tried by a Senate committee, not in front of the full Senate, and that he had been acquitted in a criminal trial. Judge Stanley Sporkin ruled in favor of Hastings, remanding the case back to the Senate, but stayed his ruling pending the outcome of an appeal to the Supreme Court in a similar case regarding Judge Walter Nixon, who had also been impeached and removed.[3]
Sporkin found some "crucial distinctions"[4] between Nixon's case and Hastings', specifically, that Nixon had been convicted criminally, and that Hastings was not found guilty by two-thirds of the committee who actually "tried" his impeachment in the Senate. He further added that Hastings had a right to trial by the full Senate.
The Supreme Court, however, ruled in Nixon v. United States that the federal courts have no jurisdiction over Senate impeachment matters, so Sporkin's ruling was vacated and Hastings' conviction and removal were upheld.

[edit] Congressional career
Hastings was elected to the House of Representatives in 1992. He is a member of the Congressional Black Caucus and was elected President of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe in July 2004. Today, as a Senior Democratic Whip, Hastings is an influential member of the Democratic Leadership. Congressman Hastings is also a member of the powerful House Rules Committee and is a senior Member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI). On the HPSCI, Hastings is the Chairman of the Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations.
He was one of the 31 who voted in the House not to count the electoral votes from Ohio in the United States presidential election, 2004. [2]

Posted by: mister rorke | May 8, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

As Obama has pointed out previously, Hillary is" divorced from reality". As for me, I think Hillary has deep set lunacy. Hillary's addiction to power is the cause of it. The DNC ought to get a straight jacket, and padded bus ready.

Posted by: Martha Davidson | May 8, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

I know for sure that it is a done deal for Obama and I think Clinton sholud not conceed now bt should go all the way to the last primary so that it will seem like she was the king maker but Obama was just the "special one" plain simple.

Posted by: jonathan | May 8, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

"HILLARY CLINTON IS ALREADY THE TRUE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!"
Posted by: jacksmith | May 8, 2008 8:04 PM

Ya sure, and Rush is King of the World also!

jacksmith & JakeD - How did that Operation Crackpot work for you? I'm sure you made Rush proud.

Posted by: Franky | May 8, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

I've never gotten a cucumber that deep before!

Posted by: JakeD | May 8, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Wait until Obama gets the negative attacks from the Republicans, he will get toasted. Hillary, on the other hand, anything can be thrown at her, she is bullet proof, she has no skeleton in the closet.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of "end game" who wants to play the GAME where you insert objects into my rear END? I am HORNY for a full-on Hillary DIANE Clinton strap-on romp! My anus just salivated thinking about it! ; )

Posted by: JakeD | May 8, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Rise above your fears and bigotries folks! This nation was founded on the cherished words of the Declaration of Independence. If Obama becomes President next year this will be a monumental event in American history and the fulfillment of Jefferson's words "that We highly resolve that All men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator by certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". God Bless Our Nation. God Bless Barack Hussein Obama.

Posted by: A.Lincoln | May 8, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

what we all see is that the clintons' actuations are but spasms of a dying headless chicken. very pathetic indeed.

Posted by: patriaamor | May 8, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

After reading some of the comments posted in response to this article its easy to see what one of the biggest problems with the political parties in America today. The simple fact that people are expected to vote along party lines rather then for the person that they think is best for the job or to support an idea proposed by someone from another party.

Posted by: Joe | May 8, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Any HRC supporter who goes to McCain is going against even her own wishes....do any of you all honestly believe she wants McCain in office more than a fellow Dem...she may be pushing this out of pride and feeling of "her time"-ness....but even she knows McCain in office means all of her projects will be trashed with no hope.

Obama may not win, but he may not win by the rules. If Hilary gets into office based off of anything, but winning the primaries that are left THE ONES THAT FOLLOW THE RULES AND SHE AGREED SHOULD BE COUNTED, then I know I will stay home. You can argue the will of the people all you want, but the will of the people so far has given Obama more votes....

Posted by: laughinaloud | May 8, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

"What could Obama offer that would give her the ability to say her campaign had made a significant difference in the party's platform?"

That's a very superficial assessment, and is indeed the view that Hillary has been pushing. But the truth is that there are big differences in the political philosophies and the way they are running their campaign. Hillary is trying to show she is tough by threatening to obliterate Iran and adopting foreign policy attitudes that are become more and more like Bush's (with the exception of Iraq). If you recall, she even has called Obama naive and inexperienced on several occasions when Obama has said that ignoring and threatening our enemies is not a way to deal with problems. Moreover, she is using the type of tactics characteristic of the Bush administration and Republicans in general to win elections: mudslinging, deliberately deceptive statements, and repeating a buzz word ("inexperienced") often enough so that it sticks into voters' heads.

With Obama, there is a refreshing type of honesty that you do not see in a lot of politicians. He will speak truthfully (like when he said all three politicians left are better than Bush) and he will respect people that are worthy of respect (whether you like McCain or not, the man does deserve respect).

I'm quite honestly sick of all the mudlsinging and dirty politics. I want change and I want honesty and respect. Republicans actually chose a reasonable candidate this time rather than taking the dirtiest (Romney). Of course Huckabee would have been the cleanest, but still McCain is not too bad. Hillary has been playing as a dirty politician lately and Obama has mostly been honest and clean. I refuse to support dirty politics. Given a choice between Hillary or McCain, I would easily take McCain. Between McCain or Obama, I would easily take Obama.

Posted by: Jose Sanchez | May 8, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Good Point, FAKE Jake.

Posted by: JakeD | May 8, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Hillary needs to go untill the end. www.ivotedforhillary.com

Posted by: Jerry | May 8, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Its still a 50 50 race. This should not be decide in back rooms in DC or by CNN but on the floor at a convention through debate and open floor votes.

Posted by: hhkeller | May 8, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

All she cares about is getting her $12mil back!

NY and their corrupt politicians should say in NY.

Posted by: DebtCollecter | May 8, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Clintons people are already signing big money book deals as this thing comes to an end. Doesn't sound like what yo do if you think you have a job or a future.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Assuming he eventually gets the nomination, Obama is very fortunate the Republicans had such a weak bench this time around. McCain is not a strong candidate. With a better, younger candidate they beat him like a rented mule and he goes down as just another Mondale, Dukakis, or Kerry. That's really the biggest hole in Hillary's electibility argument against him. Either one of them could beat McCain, but only Clinton could beat anybody.

Posted by: John | May 8, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Alee21, pick up a newspaper instead of posting nonsense. Obama sat down with reporters and let them ask whatever they want about Rezco, and he answered them until they said they were satisfied. The issue is defunct, and you can read the Q and A session if you bothered to read. Also, Obama never started a race issue- Bill Clinton and Geraldine Ferraro did. Not once before them did Obama ever mention race. So stop making things up and learn to read. No wonder Hill's followers are the uneducated.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

DON'T BE DUPED !!!

Large numbers of Republicans have been voting for Barack Obama in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses from early on. Because they feel he would be a weaker opponent against John McCain. With Hillary Clinton you are almost 100% certain to get quality, affordable universal health care very soon.

But first, all of you have to make certain that Hillary Clinton takes the democratic nomination and then the Whitehouse. NOW! is the time. THIS! is the moment you have all been working, and waiting for. You can do this America. "Carpe diem" (harvest the day). You will have to work together on this and be aggressive, relentless, and creative. Americans face an even worse catastrophe ahead than the one you are living through now.

You see, the medical and insurance industry mostly support the republicans with the money they ripped off from you. And they don't want you to have quality, affordable universal health care. They want to be able to continue to rip you off, and kill you and your children by continuing to deny you life saving medical care that you have already paid for. So they can continue to make more immoral profits for them-selves.

Hillary Clinton has actually won by much larger margins than the vote totals showed. And lost by much smaller vote margins than the vote totals showed. Her delegate count is actually much higher than it shows. And higher than Obama's. She also leads in the electoral college numbers that you must win to become President in the November national election. HILLARY CLINTON IS ALREADY THE TRUE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!

As much as 30% of Obama's primary, and caucus votes are Republicans trying to choose the weakest democratic candidate for McCain to run against. These Republicans have been gaming the caucuses, and open primaries where it is easier to vote cheat. This is why Obama has not been able to win the BIG! states primaries. Even with Republican vote cheating help. Except North Carolina where 35% of the population is African American, and approximately 90% of them block voted for him. African Americans are only approximately 17% of the general population.

Hillary Clinton has been OUT MANNED! OUT GUNNED! and OUT SPENT! 4 and 5 to 1. Yet Obama has only been able to manage a very tenuous, and questionable tie with Hillary Clinton.

If Obama is the democratic nominee for the national election in November he will be slaughtered. That is crystal clear now. Because all of the Republican vote cheating help will suddenly evaporate. And the demographics, and experience are completely against him. All of this vote fraud and republican manipulation has made Obama falsely look like a much stronger candidate than he really is.

You will have another McGovern catastrophe where George McGovern lost 49 of 50 states. And was the reason the super-delegates were created to keep that from happening again. Don't let that happen to the party and America again super-delegates. You have the power to prevent it. The only important question now is who can best win in November. And the answer is HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON. That fact is also now crystal clear.

And YOUNG PEOPLE. DON'T BE DUPED! Think about it. You have the most to lose. As do African Americans. Support Hillary Clinton. She will do her best for all of you. And she will know how to best get it done on day one.

The democratic party needs to fix this outrage. Everyone needs to throw all your support to Hillary Clinton NOW! So you can end this outrage against YOU the voter, and against democracy.

The democratic party, and the super-delegates have a decision to make. Are the democrats, and the democratic party going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee to fight for the American people. Or are the republicans going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee through vote fraud, and gaming the DEMOCRATIC party primaries, and caucuses.

Fortunately the Clinton's have been able to hold on against this fraudulent outrage with those repeated dramatic, and heroic comebacks of Hillary Clinton's. Only the Clinton's are that resourceful, and strong. Hillary Clinton is your NOMINEE. They are the best I have ever seen. Probably the best there has ever been. Maybe it's time for Hillary to start thinking about switching to an INDEPENDENT run for the presidency. Wipe the slate clean. After all she is running to be the President of all the people. She, Bill, and Chelsea would cream everyone. You know it's true. :-)

"This is not a game" (Hillary Clinton)

Sincerely

jacksmith... Working Class :-)

Posted by: jacksmith | May 8, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Most of the votes that can be cast have been cast. HRC finds the arithmetic disagreeable, so she is trying to ignore it. Those who support Obama and want to see the Democratic party turn its focus to the important job of stopping another four years of the George W. Bush presidency need to send the Clintons and the party a message they cannot ignore: An outpouring of millions of dollars from small, grassroots donors to the Obama campaign will help put the futility of HRC's obstinacy in a clearer perspective.

Posted by: Don H | May 8, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Finally we can get on with the real campaign: OBAMA-HAGEL '08

Posted by: FATillery | May 8, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

This article completely misses the point. Hillary's strategy is to continue to discredit and undermine Obama's candidacy in hopes that he loses to McCain in November, thus opening the way for Clinton to run for president again in 2012 against an older -- and, she hopes, unpopular -- President McCain. She wouldn't have that opportunity if Obama is elected this year and runs for re-election in 2012. That's Hillary's end game: Destroy Obama's bid, hand the election to McCain, and try again in four years.

Posted by: Lou | May 8, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

There is none. They have been making this up as they went along for a long time now. That is how they got in the mess they are in. Don't give them more credit then they deserve.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Listen -- I don't really believe any of this BS I've posted about Obama. But this guy from Arkansas has held my little Chinese wife hostage for the last five months, and he said he'd harm her if I didn't spend all my time posting hate over Obama. Every day, Sidney Blumenthal sends me an email with more lies about Obama, and then I have to post them as much as I can, wherever I can. It doesn't even have to be an article about Clinton or Obama; two weeks ago, I posted "Obama is a coke head" as a comment to the article on game 5 of the Caps-Flyers playoff. I had to quit my job pumping gas at the Union 76 and everything, it's been very hard on me. I tried calling for help by sending code through intentionally misspelled words -- who's REALLY dumb enough to spell chameleon "camelion"? -- but no one picked up on my cries for help. Anyway, he's gone right now, I don't have much time -- if I sign the post, it's REALLY from me. If it's unsigned, I don't really believe it, but he's got a gun on my wife, so what can I do. Everybody, vote for Obama so he'll go -- Oh my God, HE'S COME BACK

Posted by: svreader | May 8, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Previous comment was mine..........

Posted by: A.Lincoln | May 8, 2008 8:00 PM | Report abuse


The Clinton couple today said that they have the white people support and this makes Obama non competitive in the General Election. In another tactic, they are asking superdelegates to pledge secret support such that they might gage her standing with these non-committed delegates. These are Gestapo type tactics and represent the worst of American democracy.

She will obliterate Iran and is trying to do likewise with Obama. With this white people argument it now seems like she has formally joined the final vestige of actual trailer trash. How is it possible that Charlie Rangel, Senators Feinstein, and Schumer might continue their support? Are they crazy? It is now apparent that the public must concentrate on the politically elected supporters of Senator Clinton with down the road ouster in mind simply because Senator Clinton has gone off the rails. She is delusional and dangerous. If her supporters have any gumption and love for her they will call her and advise her to abandon her Kamikaze mission and then announce support for Obama. To continue support is a serious disservice to her and her husband. They are not rational and Bill Clinton was so red faced and hypertensive on TV the other night that he was very close to having a stroke. Where is your spine Chuck, Charlie and Diane. If you three continue to think this process is good then it is time to resign from public life and democratic representation.

Posted by: terrt | May 8, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

And the Democratic Party's chances of winning the election in 08. He is going to lose the hispanic and blue collar worker's votes handily to McCain.. There is no way he is going to be president unless she is vice president. I won't vote for a president who is going to end up being like Andrew Jackson and have a bunch of cronies around him. If Hillary is not involved in his administration, I believe he will lead us worse than Bush or McCain.I rather take my chances with McCain..

Posted by: Q F | May 8, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

For those of you who continue to state that Obama in "unelectable" may I suggest you check your watch and see if you're running late for your Klan meeting. President Poop For Brains was unqualified for office even when he was governer of Texas, but the idiocracy of the American public, combined with the Repulicans playing on their fears, elected him to the Presidency,... twice!!! Obama will be President of the United States on 01.20.09 and all the closet bigots out there better get used to it!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton said in 1992 he likes a system that rewards people who play by the rules. Hilary isn't real good at that as she seems to be changing the rules every minute so that she may get the nomination.

Posted by: Mark Schofer | May 8, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand all these Obamaites calling Hillary names and demanding that she quits. She has 48.7% of the popular vote not even counting Michigan and Florida. The only reason is that they are afraid that Hillary supporters will not support Obami - in that they are absolutely right. We will not support a thin-skinnned hypocrite like Obama. By the way, in response to McGovern who said Hillary supporters in the end will support Obama, he is way past his time. Hillary supporters who are independent, like myself, have no allegiance to either party. We vote for whom we think is the best for the job and that person is Hillary. Forget the Democratic Party - it's a party of infinite rules and regulations, a party for aging liberals and blacks.

Obama is ahead of the nomination game because his camp pulled the race/victim card whenever he runs into problems. Above all else, that is the one thing that convinces me that I will not vote for Obami.

Why doesn't he support a revote in Michigan and Florida? Is he so scared or is he so arrogant? In my view, he has stolen the nomination from Clinton by playing the victim card, by refusing to debate before important primaries, by trucking impressionable college kids to the voting booth, by hypocrisy, by spreading disinformation, by pushing the caucus states where voting is entirely undemocratic, by buying voters through massive ad campaigns. He is most certainly not another JFK nor a Bill Clinton. He is but a typical Chicago politician who has learned how to manipulate the system. Why hasn't the press figured out what is going on with Rezko, Ayers and what Obama did to win his State Senate seat?

More than anyone in recent memory, Obama has peeled open racial scabs and polarized the nation. Obama should drop out if he wants what is best for the country and not what is best for him. The real winner in all this is Axelrod and his ilk.

Posted by: alee21 | May 8, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Greenfun: What alternate reality are you living in? There are 6 contests left, in states with low delegate numbers. It is not "premature" when all signs point to an impossible task for Sen. Clinton. Even "if" you include the votes from Michigan and Florida as they stand now, he would STILL be ahead. Obama did not deprive any voter in Florida from "not counting". Check your facts please and take your argument to the DNC who set the rules for what the consequences would be for those states if they held their contests early.

You think it is fair for her to include votes from Michigan when his name was not even on the ballot? I am positive that if the situation were reversed and Obama was in her position, he would be accused of "whining" and acting desperate.

Clinton agreed, signed off on and supported to the DNC rules until they were no longer convenient for her. You are kicking a dead horse with your argument and it is a moot point now anyway. It is sad to see Senator Clinton, who I admire for her intellect, stoop to such a twisted rational for keeping this thing going.

She clearly has lost sight of what is best for the Party.

Posted by: Maria | May 8, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

SayNoToLosing:

Still, I know it is statistically impossible, but it would be a HOOT ; )

Posted by: JakeD | May 8, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Many of the older women who are the core of Clinton's support will probably sit out rather than vote for Obama, especially after he filpped her the bird twice on TV. And the relentless media trashing of her and her efforts doesn't go down well with them either. Media Obamacultists like Balz may end up costing Obama a lot of votes.

Posted by: John | May 8, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

obama will not have clear sailing on his way to the genl election; for example,
making the rounds are new video of Rev Wrights successor, pastor Moss, who
just loves to say that everyone loves a thug, and we are all thugs,,, and obama says that Moss is a wonderful pastor....
good lord, if i was a democrat, i would have to say that obama needs to get some common sense darn quick before November, but call me an ex-Dem who wised up more than 20 yrs ago....
mccain/rice08!

Posted by: dave | May 8, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

I normally don't listen to rightwing radio, but today listened to the Neil Boortz and Sean Hannity shows.

I LOVE how disappointed they are. They can't help themselves. They are frightened of Barack Obama and truly wanted Hillary as the second choice in case McCain lost.

Why?

Because regardless of what they say about Hillary, they (the rightwingers) know that Hillary is far more conservative than liberal. They've seen her pro-Bush voting record.

Oh, sure, she talks a tough job against Bush, but most of the time she votes yes on whatever Bush wants, including No Child Left Behind, Patriot Act, WAR, and so much more.

She is NOT a liberal, and that is why she is losing.


BUT, she has a plan: Get McCain elected so that she can run in 2012.

It's perfectly obvious.


You won't find Obama's supporters say "I'll vote for McCain," but Hillary's supporters ARE saying that.


What can be said when so-called Democrats say they'll vote Republican???

They're NOT Democrats at all. They're the rightwingers who are working for the Republicans.

Traitors and fools.

Posted by: Mike of Atlanta | May 8, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD | May 8, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

John:

Do you believe the following was "positive" from Dan Balz (4/28/08):

"The testing of Barack Obama continues. The Illinois senator has been on a month-long slide of bad news, poor performances and self-inflicted wounds."

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/04/28/for_obama_wright_the_latest_in.html

Posted by: JakeD | May 8, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Insert Mi and Fla and she still is behind.

In what alternative universe does Clinton live? Does she really think, did she ever really think, that the supers would overturn the will of the voters and hand her the nomination?

Her electabilty argument falls flat. If she were more electable, she would be winning.

So essentially by not withdrawing when it was impossible to win back in Feb, she carried on for two months, both her and Obama spent millions and millions for what?

So she could win Ohio, lose the delegate race in Texas, and win Penn.

Great. Good for her. She can place those victories up on the mantle along with a photo-finish in Indiana and West Virginia, Kentucky and Puerto Rico.

That was worth extending the primary three months.

Posted by: edzo2 | May 8, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

JakeD --

The Clinton supporters on these boards are voters that believe that Senator Clinton will be a great President and is the only candidate that can beat John McCain.

The constant chattering of "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" by Obama supporters doesn't do any good.

Posted by: SayNoToLosing | May 8, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

And what fun it will be for that poor guy who is spending all of his time boasting that Obama is electable because his people all talk to each other to realize that oops, that's exactly what he & his buds are doing.

Posted by: Katy | May 8, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

VANITY........

Posted by: A.Lincoln | May 8, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

No Rethugs in 2008:

Wouldn't it be a HOOT if every, single "Hillary supporter" posting on these blogs for the past five months were part of Operation CHAOS?

Posted by: JakeD | May 8, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Obama's unelectable in a general election.

Obama's pushing to stop the primary process because he knows the Rev. Wright issue is fatal for his campaign. This video is a sample of what we can expect from the Republicans if we make the mistake of nominating Obama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72B3tUAqpo4&feature=related

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

And why has Balz and every one of the so called journalists been so pro-Obama all the time anyway? He's already gleefully dancing on her grave. Reminds me of how disgracefully the press performed when they swallowed everything about Iraq WMDs. Really disappointing.

Posted by: John | May 8, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Stuart --

Gday mate! Good news is, I'll be round your way in 2011.

Bad news is, I'll be in my AllBlacks gear!

The BEST fellow I met at the 2007 RWC in Paris was one of your mates, I'm looking forward to visiting the S Hemisphere. President Obama should be gearing up for re-election by then ...

Posted by: gbooksdc | May 8, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

It would be fatal for any of us to underestimate John McCain.

The sad truth is that Obama is unelectable.

Obama supporters spend too much talking to each other.

They don't realize that there are people out there with very different perspectives.

Obama doesn't stand a chance in a general election.

Obama can't change the fact that he was heavily involved in "Black Liberation Theology" for over 20 years.

Obama can't change the fact that he repeatedly used Cocaine.

Obama can't change the fact that he was soft on crime in Chicago, and that people died because of it.

Obama can't change the fact that he claimed to be against the war but voted for it every time it came up in congress.

Obama can't change the fact that Rezko got $100M for slum repairs in Chicago, and that Obama failed to do anyhthing about the slums in his district that Rezko was supposed to repair but didn't.

Obama can't change the fact that he has the most left-wing voting record in congress.

Obama can't change the fact that he says people "cling to guns and religion"

Obama can't change all his racist anti-white comments that are on tape in his own voice.

Watch the videos.

They are just a sample of what we can expect to see if we make the mistake of nominating Obama.

Obama is unelectable.

Its sad, but its true.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Keep in mind that knuckle dragging ditto heads like JakeD, svreader, and Rat-the are nothing more than GOP hacks who come on here to trash Democratic candidates.

Don't fall for their games.

Posted by: No Rethugs in 2008 | May 8, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

She should stay in and let the convention pick the nominee. Aren't that what conventions are for anyway? Why does everyone want her to quit? What are they afraid of?

Posted by: John | May 8, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Dan,

There's a far better chance Obama will self-destruct before then.

Obama is unelectable.

This video provides shocking new evidence of Obama's racist attitudes towards white people. It contains quotes from him and audio passages from his books spoken in his own voice, is just a sample of what we can expect to see from Republcans if we make the mistake of nominating Obama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI77cU3jsFs&feature=related

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

I have not seen any media saying anything positive about Clinton. All negative? Why? I think who ever support Clinton should stand out to support her. She is a true fighter. She fight for against the negative media, against any negative comments, and against her life.

Hillary, I am here standing for you. Please march to success and fight for America. I don't want to see your opponent saying the big word, Change, but I have no idea what he wants to do. I don't see his experience to fit as a world leader.

Posted by: Support for Clinton | May 8, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Jesus Francisco Cardenas:

You can always just write-in her name ...

Posted by: JakeD | May 8, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Dear Tobias,

If you think Hillary is "our only hope" then I guess we are done for because SHE IS NOT GETTING THE NOMINATION.

Posted by: Elitist Educated White Woman For Obama | May 8, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Obama's attitude that he is already the nominee is very dismissive to the other half of the Democratic party that voted for Senator Clinton. I guess he doesn't think he needs the votes of Clinton supporters. He has also blocked a re-vote in Fl. I guess he doesn't need the voters in FL either. We are pretty tired of Obama's efforts to end this primary prematurely. I think it is very shortsighted of Obama and superdelegates to not respect Senator Clinton and her extremely loyal supporters. They will need us if they expect to have a Democrat in the White house. We have already watched our candidate endure relentless media bias and vile behavior from Obama supporters. Most of are not in the mood to support Obama. He says he is confident he can win over Clinton supporters-not this one. Apparently I have a lot of company too.

Posted by: greenfun | May 8, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Maria:

No, thanks.

Posted by: JakeD | May 8, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

BTW, great pic. Someone at the Clinton campaign has no sense of symbolism. Hillary is a small person, in stature and in character. I don't think having her dwarfed by a flag leads to the visual they really want.

Posted by: gbooksdc | May 8, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

I am hoping that if she does not get the Democratic nomination, that Hillary does not rule out an independent run. I think she can beat both McCain and Nobama.
Hillary '08

Posted by: Jesus Francisco Cardenas | May 8, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Stuart:

The U.S. is the "ruler" of China? North Korea? Iran?

Gosh, someone should have TOLD Bush about that!

Posted by: JakeD | May 8, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

June's basically three weeks away.

I can wait.

Posted by: gbooksdc | May 8, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

I think once everyone knows the truth about hillary and bill,then,all of this nonsense will end..
Have you all took the time to notice how the biggest things about obama were the words they used and how everyone tied their words to sAying how obama felt the same way?
But there is no outrage on the preacher john mccain ran behind,nor is there any outrage on the nafta,bullets over bosnia,nor the pardon's of the weather underground group by hillary's husband either???

Right wingers and Hillary supporters know that OBAMA'S track record is for the people..The bills he sponsored and co-sponsored in the state and senate levels,far outdo anything she did and mccain did either..

OBAMA CAN BEAT BOTH HRC AND JOHN McCAIN,EVEN IF THEY RAN ON THE SAME TICKET

Posted by: david donelson,atl ga | May 8, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Just GO, Over-the- HILLARY

You HAD SOME MUCKED UP TACTICS!
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"It's better to die on your feet than live on your knees begging for votes and money


Posted by: Kassandra | May 8, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

she's damaged goods,she did so much to harm senator obama and continues to do so.when one does harm to others,things has a way of back firing on you.hillary is being denied in what she preceives as hers,the presidency of the united states.she took the democratic primaries for granted ,all of a sudden she found herself in a dogfight,trailing,campaign financial problems and now people are calling for her to step aside.the longer she stays in, the more she damages her chances of a high profile position of leadership within the democratic party.

Posted by: ron | May 8, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Someone needs to tell Hillary that this is not about her.

And JakeD, your deep "concern" for the Democratic Party is truly touching but perhaps it is also time for you to STFU already.

Posted by: Maria | May 8, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

I'm a very interested observer from Australia. Unfortunately the US is the ruler of the world (not just the free world), for the time being anyway. I'm just hoping someone with a bit more compassion and morality for both their own country and the world gets into the White House. Seems to me Obama is the one.

Posted by: Stuart | May 8, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Obviously she still thinks that Florida and Michigan matter and is pressing. But what happened to her assertion as to Michigan that it was never going to count?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULxxBz-PAjg

There you have it, sound and all.
No wonder she is not considered very trustworthy by over 60% of the voters.

Posted by: pulakimo | May 8, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Tobias:

Here's an honest question for you to consider -- especially if you think she is your only hope -- can she win in November if every Obama supporter votes for McCain instead?

Posted by: JakeD | May 8, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

I've never got a cucumber that deep before!

Posted by: JakeD | May 8, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

The end game is the White House. Obama doesn't have a chance in the fall so she is our only hope.

Posted by: Tobias | May 8, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Too bad I don't get paid by the post ...

Posted by: JakeD | May 8, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

That's a big American flag behind her (reminds me of that "Patton" movie ; )

Posted by: JakeD | May 8, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of "end game" who wants to play the GAME where you insert objects into my rear END? I am HORNY for a full-on Hillary DIANE Clinton strap-on romp! My anus just salivated thinking about it! ; )

Posted by: JakeD | May 8, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

She needs a graceful way out. She'll win the next two, Obama wins the rest, especially Oregon. That puts him past halfway. The last two vote and she withdraws on June 3rd.

Then we can begin to clean the Republican refuse out of Government. Better yet, track down their criminal butts and throw 'em in the can!

Posted by: thebob.bob | May 8, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Well, if she doesn't get Michigan and Florida delegates seated via the Rules Committee, then the "end game" is the Credentials Committee at the Convention.

Posted by: JakeD | May 8, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

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