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Sunday in the Park With Barack

By Shailagh Murray
ELKHART, Ind. -- The event was billed as "door knocking," but that was just the tip of the iceberg.

Early Sunday afternoon, the Barack Obama motorcade pulled to a stop at the corner of Bank Street and Superior Street in a tidy, working-class neighborhood near downtown here. Several neighbors had already gathered on the sidewalk, and they cheered when Obama stepped off the bus with wife Michelle and daughters Malia and Sasha. "Hey guys, how are you?" Obama called out.

He approached Rose Bias, 44, who lives two blocks away and had heard from another neighbor about a Secret Service sighting. Obama commented on the harness her son Trenton was wearing. (Bias said she had him on a leash because the toddler was apt to run off.) "Be on the lookout, you might be on the news," Obama warned her. He greeted David Romberger, 44, who is unemployed. "I'm voting for you sir," Romberger told Obama, citing the senator's "principled" opposition to the gas-tax holiday that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has proposed.            

By now a few neighbors had become a small crowd. Word that Obama had arrived in Elkhart was traveling from pew to pew in local churches (more on this later), and people had begun streaming down the sidewalks. Obama joked to an aspiring dental hygeinist, "Let's see your teeth." Jarrett Himebaugh, 9, introduced himself to Obama and stated, "I know why John Edwards dropped out. He got less votes than you and Hillary."

"A political scientist," Obama laughed, making his way across the intersection.
The Obamas finally made it to a few front porches. At 241 Bank St., Jody Coleman, a 33-year-old factory worker, had come outside to investigate the commotion. "I was sitting at home, online, trying to deal with a new pet, and I was like, I think Barack Obama is on my street corner," he said. Coleman told Obama that the cost of filling up his GMC Sonoma truck had jumped from $25 to $65. He isn't buying the gas-tax holiday either. "What's it going to do for one day?" he said. "That's all it would help me."

Mike and Kim Konecny greeted the Obamas at 233 Bank St. and talked about the local economy. Both are in the recreational vehicles business, a major local industry, and are worried about layoffs. Obama pitched his $1,000 middle-class tax cut as a better deal. Mike, wearing a Notre Dame cap and T-shirt, said he had been undecided, "but I'm not now," he asserted.
After Michelle and the girls broke off, heading to a local park, Obama finally made it halfway down the block. The swarm had grown to around 200 people. They lined the sidewalk, creating an informal rope line, waving pens and snapping camera phones. "I don't get this response when I canvas," deadpanned Stacy McColly, a local volunteer who doorknocks for Obama almost every day. One girl, trembling, handed her phone to Obama to say hello to her friend "Hillary."

"Hi, Hillary!" Obama said with a big grin. "And she supports me," he relayed to reporters standing nearby. "Oh, this isn't Hillary Clinton? Oh, Hillary Van Dyke. Nice to meet you! Thanks for your support."

Another woman handed him a phone and Obama said hello to "Grandpa Dick." At this point an hour had passed, and the candidate still had a mob waiting to greet him. "Yes! He's right here by Simpson Street! For real!" one woman yelled into her phone. "Mama, calm down. Hurry up and get down here!"

It was nearly 40 years to the day -- May 2, 1968 -- when the last presidential candidate came through Elkhart. That was Bobby Kennedy, of course, and he drew 3,000 people. Judging from the response on Bank Street, one wonders what size crowd Obama could have gathered, had the campaign provided more than 15 minutes' notice of his arrival.

Finally, Obama boarded the bus, and the motorcade traveled a mile or so to Riverview School, where Michelle and the girls were hanging out at the playground. A small mob had already gathered to see the Obama women, but when the senator showed up, it grew some more. Obama posed with babies and signed autographs. "I think we can carry Elkhart with your help," he announced. Then he agreed to shoot a few baskets.

A few baskets turned into another game of P-I-G, and this time Obama's opponents were Anthony Nowacyk, a local 14-year-old, and Rod Roberson, another neighbor, who happens to be president of the Elkhart City Council and a former Northwestern University basketball player. Roberson also knows Michelle's brother, Craig Robinson, from his Northwestern coaching days. He's the one who heard about the Obama visit while he was in church.

Obama and Roberson chatted and talked a little trash, but the candidate held his own, sinking a few impressive three-point shots (and only one air ball). "Under pressure!" Obama said, as one shot sailed through the basket. "I'm a pressure player." Soon the score was P-I for each, but then Obama missed. "I was robbed on that last one," he said, after losing the game. Nowacyk, who doesn't play on a team but was an impressive, if quiet, opponent, offered this assessment of Obama's playing abilities: "He's all right."

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Dear idiotic HarleyinNC,
As you and other Clinton supporters, being idiots, can never understand, Obama leads in every way in the race. The situation now is that some support Clinton, and others don't and those some do not matter

Posted by: chinky | May 5, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse does it not register that the fund into which these taxes are paid employs construction workers to build the highway your SUV runs on! Second..neither HRC or Barack have been elected yet! In your fairy-tale world, do you REALLY think Petroleum George would ever sign off on a bill to do hurt to his beloved oil companies? Maybe you think he's gonna resign office by this summer? Wise up!

To the myriad of cowards here who won't sign a name, you're clearly just GOP trolls, stirring up trouble..or you're the OTHER coward posting the 40-foot long roll of used TP! By the way, all your points are either a complete fraud or have been plowed over more often than a 100-year old cornfield! People can go to Wikipedia and find out the real story on Barack's family, for one thing.

Eisenhower's VP of Bigotry, Nixon wouldn't do the airlift..Kennedy was a Senator and shamed him by offering his family's help to airlift students, two years in a row! There's so much more that's just pure cr@#, it amazes..but not as much as the fact that it comes from a site that "says" it's not affiliated with Michael Savage (psycho & ultra reichtwing bigot), but sure sounds just like him! It's full of thinly-veiled and not so thinly-veiled "articles" spewing hate against blacks and others! It's NeoCon, at least, but more like NeoNazi!

The interesting thing is that they support Hillary! Maybe this is an outgrowth of her association with the Dominionist "Family-Fellowship"..a "spiritually" oriented group, less concerned with the finer points of Christian theology, than their all-consuming retention of a world-wide amalgam of power. This Congressional offshoot group, headed by far-right David Coe, moves beyond party affiliation to include the likes of far-rightwingers Inhofe, Brownback and SOS Baker's wife, to Florida's Nelson and NY's Clinton, but maintains a strict leaning to the absolute right in its positions.

Note..I say "moves beyond PARTY affiliation". This is not to say it includes those of liberal bent! Far from it. It's an old, old group, whose philosophy pretty much consists of making sure that the conservative elitists retain power, no matter what. Lately, they've done a heck of a job, Brownie! Its roots go back decades at least, with alliances with most of the major governments during those years, and noted leanings (as with certain members of the British royal family during the 30's-early 40's) toward supporting Hitler. Hill has been one of their annointed since Bill took office. Barack, however, is NOT a member.

Anyone who believes Hillary isn't a closet conservative..please raise your hands, and I will pause to laugh. She's sponsored every one of their recommended bills, from curtailing many of our freedoms, to support of the war. She and Bill are neck-deep in with the outsourcing industry, paid handsomely by those companies who have shipped millions of our jobs overseas.

Her Senate India Caucus, which she co-founded, has worked dilligently to expand the current ceiling of 65,000 foreign H-1B visas to 115,000 next foreign workers can come here and take US jobs (for less), while our high school and college grads go without! Yet Chelsea got one for 120K out of college at a company controlled by one of her outsource pals!th Jobs, jobs, jobs, she shouts..and now we know for whom! This woman is a travesty! I was once an ardent I have less regard for her than Bush..for at least he lets us know who he is up front!

Posted by: janbana | May 5, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Obama has one value that the so-called white working class that won't vote for him do not have. CLASS.

Posted by: conrad | May 5, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Who cares about this story? And why hasn't WaPo given equal coverage to Clinton the last few days?

Posted by: Tom | May 5, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

If Obama gets the nomination, this independent is voting for McCain or writing in Hillary. Obama supporters are too jerky for me to allign with.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

i believe that the gas tax holiday is a political "band-aid", so to speak. its a means to avoid truely confronting the iminent energy crisis and is mainly a short term, instant gratification-like attempta at winning votes. only $25 per year will be saved for the average american family, and yes, i know that that means the world to some people, but lets face the facts: this also pulls away millions of dollars of government $$$$ that is used for helpful things like building roads and school loans. by cutting this tax, it will send Washington into another one of those all-too-frequent tizzys which means that it's likely Americans will have to make up for that legally unpaid $ in another form (say another tax whether or not titled under a name that has to do anything to do w/ gasolene or petrol or anything).
hopefully within the next few years or decade we US citizens will finally be weaned from our destructive consumation of oil products, and keeping that hope in mind, wouldn't it be better to devote those extra $25 a year to governmental purposes rather than buy the newest wii game on the market?
what i'm trying to say is that, although the cutting of this gas tax may look fantastically promising and like a good deal, it will not drastically change our economy. it doesn't do any good to go beating around the bush if the center is on fire-- you just might find yourself alight as well.
and gas prices will continue to rise as well, unless a significant CHANGE is made, and we become serious about altering our lifestyles. by the end of this year, the energy crisis may very well be that "huge crushing weight of the early 21st century". sometimes it takes a shocker like that to instill upon us the fierce urge to take action. Sometimes we need to be slapped in the face by an issue before we think.
with ecenomic recession a growing problem, and an overbearing oil obsticle to outwit, its grevious to say that circumstances will likely get worse before improving.
WE THE PEOPLE can change this.


Posted by: moi | May 5, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Being a candidate for national office makes every word you have ever said, every action that you have ever taken, to be likely under examination by the press and certainly by your opponents. The idea of a black man, not of the party establishment, being a leading candidate for the nomination of President has so infuriated many that the examination has been even more intense than usual. AND exactly what have they come up with to demonstrate that Obama is not the right candidate? The words of someone else, and the actions of someone he knows! Wow. That really does impress me..the fact that with all of the examinations, they couldn't come up with ANYTHING on him, so had to attack on the basis of who he knows. He has my vote.

Posted by: waynep | May 5, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Hillary has no chance of winning either because if she gets the nomination, millions of people won't vote for her. I'm a lifelong Democrat, and I would be willing to campaign against her. Better to be principled than seek a win at all costs.

Posted by: YLS Redneck Woman | May 5, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse


It's time for everyone to face the truth. Barack Obama has no real chance of winning the national election in November at this time. His crushing defeat in Pennsylvania makes that fact crystal clear. His best, and only real chance of winning in November is on a ticket with Hillary Clinton as her VP.

Hillary Clinton seemed almost somber at her Pennsylvania victory speech. As if part of her was hoping Obama could have proved he had some chance of winning against the republican attack machine, and their unlimited money, and resources.

But it is absolutely essential that the democrats take back the Whitehouse in November. America, and the American people are in a very desperate condition now. And the whole World has been doing all that they can to help keep us propped up.

Hillary Clinton say's that the heat, and decisions in the Whitehouse are much tougher than the ones on the campaign trail. But I think Mr. Obama faces a test of whether he has what it takes to be a commander and chief by facing the difficult facts, and the truth before him. And by doing what is best for the American people by dropping out of the race, and offering his whole hearted assistance to Hillary Clinton to help her take back the Whitehouse for the American people, and the World.

Mr. Obama is a great speaker. And I am confident he can explain to the American people the need, and wisdom of such a personal sacrifice for them. It should be clear to everyone by now that Hillary Clinton is fighting her heart out for the American people. She has known for a long time that Mr. Obama can not win this November. You have to remember that the Clinton's have won the Whitehouse twice before. They know what it takes.

If Mr. Obama fails his test of commander and chief we can only hope that Hillary Clinton can continue her heroic fight for the American people. And that she prevails. She will need all the continual support and help we can give her. She may fight like a superhuman. But she is only human.

Sen. Hillary Clinton: "You know, more people have now voted for me than have voted for my opponent. In fact, I now have more votes than anybody has ever had in a primary contest for a nomination. And it's also clear that we've got nine more important contests to go."


Jacksmith... Working Class :-)

Posted by: jacksmith | May 5, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse


If you think like Barack Obama, that WORKING CLASS PEOPLE are just a bunch of "BITTER"!, STUPID, PEASANTS, Cash COWS!, and CANNON FODDER. :-(

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary's than they had ever been before or since.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton. :-)

Best regards

jacksmith... Working Class :-)

p.s. You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you don't know that the huge amounts of money funding the Obama campaign to try and defeat Hillary Clinton is coming in from the insurance, and medical industry, that has been ripping you off, and killing you and your children. And denying you, and your loved ones the life saving medical care you needed. All just so they can make more huge immoral profits for them-selves off of your suffering...

You see, back in 1993 Hillary Clinton had the audacity, and nerve to try and get quality, affordable universal health care for everyone to prevent the suffering and needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of you each year. :-)

Approx. 100,000 of you die each year from medical accidents from a rush to profit by the insurance, and medical industry. Another 120,000 of you die each year from treatable illness that people in other developed countries don't die from. And I could go on, and on...


Posted by: jacksmith | May 5, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Obama insulted the dental hygienest by asking to look at her teeth. That's like asking a doctor to stick out his tongue. Is he such an elitist that he thinks he knows what he's looking at when he looks at someone's teeth? Only Hilllary is down to earth enough to know what she's looking at. She does not listen to elite-types.

Posted by: DR | May 5, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Brownshirt, please do the math for yourself on the so called gas tax holiday. When I did the math, it would only save me $16.20 over the course of the summer. That is barely $5 a month. She wants your vote. How can she make this possible and she won't even take office until January. Duh, use your brain man. What she and Mccain are doing is pissing off the oil companies. We'll feel this brilliant move in the winter.

Posted by: TAATAA | May 5, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Thomas Friedman, New York Times:

"Much nonsense has been written about how Hillary Clinton is "toughening up" Barack Obama so he'll be tough enough to withstand Republican attacks. Sorry, we don't need a president who is tough enough to withstand the lies of his opponents. We need a president who is tough enough to tell the truth to the American people. Any one of the candidates can answer the Red Phone at 3 a.m. in the White House bedroom. I'm voting for the one who can talk straight to the American people on national TV -- at 8 p.m. -- from the White House East Room.

"Who will tell the people? We are not who we think we are. We are living on borrowed time and borrowed dimes. We still have all the potential for greatness, but only if we get back to work on our country.

"I don't know if Barack Obama can lead that, but the notion that the idealism he has inspired in so many young people doesn't matter is dead wrong."

Posted by: FirstMouse | May 5, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Come on, WaPo, how about a limit on the length of these posts...

Posted by: Viejita del oeste | May 5, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

NO Name that took up all of the space in this blog, you are a stupid idiot period.

Posted by: Dawn | May 5, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

John's son learn how to spell first. Thanking you in advance!

Posted by: Dawn | May 5, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Axelrods playbook. First accuse your opponent of something and then do it yourself. That way people will be busy considering if what you said about your opponent is true or not and will not notice that you are doing what you accused your opponent of doing all along. If you hear Axelrod accuse Clinton of something, keep watching...he is trying to draw negative attention off of what Obama is doing.

Posted by: Debra | May 5, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

The reason that Barack ran for president is related to the preaching of his Rev Wright. Win at any cost. Get more power. Say whatever it takes, even if you are lying to people. Rationalise it in your own mind that you are doing what is best for people. This is the reason he dealt with Rezko and all the other shady people. Also why he deals with people like Axlrod and McCaskill. The scrupples among his advisors leaves a lot to be desired. McCaskill manipulated things to get into office same as Obama. Manipulation. That is what they are truly about. Personally, I don't like being manipulated. If they can't get their wishes approved without having to manipulate voters then it should not be approved. They have no idea what is best for me. If they did they would not be trying to manipulate me. Where is the honesty? This weekend he even used his children to try and manipulate voters. Oh look, aren't my children cute. Don't I look like I have a normal family. Now kids, now tell everyone to vote for your daddy. More manipulation.

Posted by: 1paperclip | May 5, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Obama fans think that if you say something three times it will ingrain it into your automatic response mechanism. Let me try to get this straight. It is ok to bail our baer sterns but if it means returning any funds to us then it is not worthwhile? Sounds like retoric from Axelrod. Also, how are jobs going to be lost? According to the plan, the taxes for the roads will still be paid but not by us- instead by the oil companies. Get off your high horse Obama and step into the real world.

Posted by: Debra | May 5, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

The illusion that is Barack OBAMA.,00.htmlof why so many Obama supporters are so uncivil, crooked, intolerant, and so on, and why Hillary's supporters are not.

Hmm...this sounds like something right out of the Karl Rove playbook. The clintons have bought into it and deplyed it at 100% - if you can't win honestly, win dirty. I don't think Clinton supporters handle the truth very well - when her gas tax holiday scheme was exposed by economists as being nothing more than pandering - she said she won't listen to experts. But that's hostility - not honesty, right? Hmm...where have I heard that before? Oh I know, from President Pigheaded - you know, the one currently "responsible" for the seemingly endless number of disasters involving this country now. When I hear Clinton, I hear Bush. And that, my friends, is like the sound of fingernails running down a chalkboard. Funny just like with Bush - the Clintons are the same, it's never their fault, it's always someone else. Some folks just never learn.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

"Hpoefully Barach H. Oboma will have a good excuse for his ignorance concerning this matter."

Posted by: John's Son

Hopefully you have a good excuse for your abysmal knowledge of spelling and English.

Posted by: edwcorey | May 5, 2008 9:49 AM | Report abuse

I am so tired of HRC voters calling Obama voters immature simply because they reject HRC's flawed candidacy and are willing to to support someone whom they see as "unenlightened" as themselves.

My grandfathers where a sharecropper and a plasterer respectively. My grandmothers were maids. They raised 19 children between them. Neither one of my parents completed the tenth grade. But neither one of my white working class parents would be ignorant enough to say that they wouldn't vote for a black man because they knew what it was like to struggle against hardship and false impressions of those that had to leave school to support themselves and their families.

As for immaturity, I am almost forty years old. I was emanicipated at 17 so that I could enlist in the Army. I spent 4 years on active duty and 3 years in the guard/reserve. I worked my way through college, often putting in 20-32 hours a week. After college, I spent 2 years working first as a VISTA Volunteer and then as a VISTA Leader. At the immature age of 27, I was accepted to Yale Law. Within a year, I was taking care of my disabled, chronically and terminally ill mother--something I did for six years. I have always worked to help others, including five years defending persons charged with capital murder. It probably the toughest job that an attorney can engage in.

Last month, I spent the weekend with my dad doing what we normally do eating, talking, and talking about fishing. The following Monday, he went back to his 12-hour a day job.

Tell me you disagree with my positions, but I dare you to call me immature, inexperienced, an elitist, or a cultie.

Posted by: YLS Redneck Woman | May 5, 2008 9:16 AM | Report abuse

After all the 'sleaze and slime' HRC has bought to people wherever she goes, what a refreshing sight it must have been for the people of Elkhart to see our only 'fresh' candidate!

Posted by: ObamasLady | May 5, 2008 6:22 AM | Report abuse

Now we have supporters philibustering the comments section! A passionate campaign to be sure. We are the people who already know about Hillary's trail of stink and Obama's vulnerabilities as a new candidate. We don't need to see each other's case here. The article was about a nice outing in Elkhart, folks. The people who want to denigrate the other candidate need to do more than get online and take up space - you will have to go door to door yourself. Good luck.

Posted by: Shannon | May 5, 2008 4:26 AM | Report abuse

Sheesh, Even the Stars and the Sharks have finally managed to determine a Winner! :-)

Maybe by Football Season, John McCain will know which Socialist he needs to be calling his Contender.

Congrats to the Dallas Stars!

WAY to go Marty Turco!

Oh, and Brendan Morrow-Nice Shot! :-)

Now, I can finally go to bed!

Poor Detroit. ;~)

Posted by: RAT-The | May 5, 2008 2:37 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: St. Louis | May 5, 2008 2:07 AM | Report abuse

Speaking of the Kennedys, one nice thing about Obama being president is that it would be nice to have the world liking America again. There have been all these articles about how popular Obama is around the world. Be nice for America to be liked again.

Posted by: Mark | May 5, 2008 2:05 AM | Report abuse

It was from the start, or at least after Iowa, that the Clinton campaign decided to frame this contest as one about race. Forget that Obama was Harvard educated, forget that he was president of the Harvard Review, we were supposed to view him as only the "black candidate". Me, I could care less. I would like him if he were a white woman (and I would dislike Hillary if she were a black man). Obama is different from others. Be the best thing to happen to this country since the Kennedys.

Posted by: Mark | May 5, 2008 1:59 AM | Report abuse

To Tane at 1:21. I absolutely agree with your post. I am so tired of hearing about the "white working class" and "blue collar workers". Of course their concerns and votes are of great importance, but are not MORE important than those of the demographics you mentioned, as well as upper-middle and upper income people of all races.

Posted by: CarrieG1 | May 5, 2008 1:52 AM | Report abuse

re: moustache...don't think so. He was clean shaven just this morning on Meet the Press.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 1:50 AM | Report abuse

Well, I guess it is time for a change. Touched-upon, but mostly overlooked is the impact of the internet on the voters. Probably why Obama does so much better with the under 50 crowd. There's a new dynamic going on. Don't think the "where's the beef" type of election is still working....the internet allow the voter to by-pass the media, and go directly to the candidate. It's certainly helping Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 1:48 AM | Report abuse


Because the politically involved, best educated, Etc. have been getting creamed at the presidential level for the last 40 years...

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 1:41 AM | Report abuse

Did you notice the new Clark Cable style pencil moustache Obama is growing. It was clearly visible in the coverage of the Indiana dinner speech. It gives him gravitas, I guess.

Posted by: thecandypoem | May 5, 2008 1:33 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: OBAMA 08! | May 5, 2008 1:29 AM | Report abuse

Why isn't anyone asking why Hillary can't win over educated voters, activists, blacks or the youth? Why are white, uneducated "Reagan Democrats" considered so much more important than the educated, the politically involved, the most reliable Democratic constituency and the future of our country being discounted in favor of the "swing" voters who have not been a strong voting block for the Democrats in years?

Posted by: Tane | May 5, 2008 1:21 AM | Report abuse

.....actually, Obama has won. He's so far ahead in pledged delegates that there's no way for Clinton to catch-up. And if the so-called super delegates give it to her, anyway then it will tear apart the Democratic, they won't. No, Obama's already won. The party knows it. Hillary knows it. She's only staying in to re-coup the money that her campaign needs to pay off its debt (including the 5 million to Clinton). It's over. Obama has won.

Posted by: Mark | May 5, 2008 1:20 AM | Report abuse

Like that Obama's Harvard educated, was president of the Harvard Review, and was a professor of constitutional law at the University of Chicago.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

Obama hasn't won, and hopefully won't.

If Obama gets the nomination, mainstream Americans will vote for McCain.

Obama isn't qualified.

We don't care about the color of his skin.

We care about the stuff between his ears.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 1:10 AM | Report abuse

Dems' House wins suggest hard road for GOP

By Richard Wolf, USA TODAY
For the second time in three months, a Democrat's victory in a House district previously held by Republicans is pointing to a difficult landscape for the GOP this fall.
This time it was Louisiana, where Democrat Don Cazayoux defeated Republican Woody Jenkins on Saturday to win the seat of retiring GOP Rep. Richard Baker. In March, Republicans lost the Illinois seat of former House speaker Dennis Hastert.

The two races come during troubling times for Republicans.

Two-thirds of Americans polled Thursday through Saturday by USA TODAY/Gallup disapprove of the job President Bush is doing. Polls show voters favor Democrats on most issues......
....The party lost Louisiana's 6th Congressional District, based in Baton Rouge, 49% to 46%, despite the national Republican Party's effort to tie Cazayoux to Obama, Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and their "radical liberal agenda." Republicans said the tactic helped to close an earlier gap.

Democrats and some political experts said the Republican efforts didn't work in a district that Bush won with 59% of the vote in 2004 and Jindal carried with 56% last year.

"The NRCC approach is probably the best available tactic for the GOP in this Democratic year," wrote Hastings Wyman in his Southern Political Report newsletter. "Nevertheless, if it didn't work in this conservative Deep South district, it is unlikely to bear fruit in very many other areas of the country."

Posted by: USA TODAY | May 5, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Obama is NOT qualified to be President

then vote for McCain, because Obama has already won the nomination. Hillary cannot catch up. And since you were going to vote for McCain anyway, it shouldn't be too much of a problem for you.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Every day that passes with George Bush as our president

is scoring big-time Democrats!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Obama is NOT qualified to be President. Period.

Posted by: Core Democrat | May 4, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

There once was a Big Ball Game between the RepubliCANS and the Dimocrats.

However, before the Final Game, the RepubliCANS, were required to field the DIMocrats without needing to win.

Soooo, after the First Quarter, the RepubliCANS, just stayed off the Field.

We are Most of the way through the Fourth Quarter now, and the DIMocrats still haven't even SCORED! ;~)

Posted by: RAT-The | May 4, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse

The Obama campaign want us to think that the gas tax is an important issue. It's not. Just like the Rev. Wright is not an important issue. What's important is that we get someone in there who can really change America's foreign policy...and domestic get away from being a nation that starts wars, engages in torture and secret prisons. This is the America I grew up in...nor is the America of only 8 years ago. We need a change. I go for Obama; Hillary and McCain are both just old style politics...with the lobbies calling the shots. We need a change. Obama!

Posted by: Chesterton | May 4, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

guaranteed: that the oil companies will just charge it back to the consumer as a cost of doing business

Posted by: letsbepeaceful | May 4, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Regarding the gas tax - who better to pay the gas tax, you or the oil companies from their record profits?

Posted by: R.C. | May 4, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

-- A few hours later and a few miles away, Obama urged an audience of several thousand to vote for him. "I need help," he said. --

Only thing he's gotten right this campaign...



Posted by: RG | May 4, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Hi, I'm RAT,

And I Don't approve of O'Bomba's Message! ;~)

Posted by: RAT-The | May 4, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

it would be ehlpful if everyone posted with a name.

Yes I did visit the site and even followed several of the links. I did not see anything particularly unusual or 'dirty' in the links I followed. Just as with Clinton's ads and mailers, some supporters get a bit carried away and make suggestions and allusions that are in some cases stretched.

In general I see more rude and negative comments from Clinton supporters than I do from Obama supporters. I'd rather support Obama, who is being practical about the gas tax 'rebate' than Clinton, who is a bit disingenuous: it's meaningless and Big Oil will flip any tax they are asked to absorb, right back to the consumer.

Posted by: letsbepeaceful | May 4, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Hard to figure why a Barack in damage-control
mode, went on NBC Today Thursday with Michelle
in tow. She is a symbol of the TUCC/ Rev. Wright
hate-speech subscriber, dunce...

Whenever the veneer comes off Obama's real
beliefs and it hits the fan, they reach out to
somebody like Richardson (VP) and offer
a job in his imaginary administration.

Like the twerp Joe Andrew who was appointed
by Bill Clinton, and referred to Obama Friday
as "Barama".

"It's time to close this process down",
he said.

Riiiight. Close race - don't let the rest
of America vote on it, or anything...

They are terrified of Hillary passing
Obama in the popular vote even without MI -
and projecting out the remaining contests,
that can easily happen.

Counting FL but not MI, Hillary trails
by only 200,000. A 55/45 win in IN and
a 49/51 loss in NC, will have that down
to about 100,000. Then she has KY, WV
and PR next - leading big in all.

...but, but - why can't she just QUIT?!



Posted by: RG | May 4, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

To the person who did the exceedingly long rant about Obama and his "lies"--most of your suppositions are patently false. Do some real research. Also, get a life.

Posted by: Sueb2 | May 4, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse



Posted by: Anonymous | May 4, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Why don't we count all the votes and then see who's won?

Obama's supporters keep on bragging and gloating.

Its going to backfire, big time.

If he gets the nomination, he will lose in November by a landslide.

Obama's supporters need to grow up.

They are constantly pissing off the people they csn't win a national election without.

Every time I start to soften my opposition to Obama, all I need to do is read any of these boards and the immature postings by by Obama supporters remind me and every other Clinton supporter never to vote for him no matter what.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

lets --

The attacks used against Bill Clinton by Obama's supporters are exact copies of right-wing talking points used by Karl Rove, Rush Limbaugh, and the Republican Party.

The Obama campapign's conflation of Bill Clinton's Presidency, which was one of our nation's best, with George Bush's, which is clearly the worst, is dishonest, unfair, and a direct attack on the most valuable asset of the Democratic Party itself.

Obama's supporters eagerly attacked Hillary Clinton's entire family, which is something even the Mafia doesn't do when they attack someone.

The "who me?" replies from Obama and his supporters insult the intelligence of the rest of us.

We didn't just fall off a turnip truck.

Please don't piss down our backs and tell us its raining.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

lets --

Did you really go to

Can you really claim with a straight face that the below-the-belt character attacks by Obama campaign members on the Clintons are acceptable to you?

Look at the comments on this board to see how divided people are.

Obama doesn't bring people together.

He's split the Democratic Party.

He can't even unite it.

Why should anyone believe his claims when he's never done the things he claims to be able to do?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

re the post at 9:21 that has no name - I looked at the website you referred to. I don't see any of the comments against the positions of his opponent as dirty, so I don't see the point of the site - there is nothing personal or underhanded, and Clinton hasn't accused him of being 'dirty'.

I've never seen an Obama comment where he said the Clinton years were 'bad for America' - I agree they were pretty good economically. But right now we are in a terrible financial situation and the government is just stuck because of this idiotic war and disastrous administration. I'm looking forward to 'change'. I'd prefer Obama but will vote for Clinton if she is the candidate.

However I would like to know what you see in the blogs that is 'bringing out the worst in people' - and what is illogical about Obama wanting to unite the country and why would he divide the country? And what 'right-wing talking points' is he using. Did I miss something?

Posted by: letsbepeaceful | May 4, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Obama's the best of the three candidates.

Posted by: JP | May 4, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse





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Posted by: Mark | May 4, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Obama talks about being "a community organizer in Chicago"

Here's what happened after he got elected State Senator.

Please Watch this report on Obama, Obama's slums, Rezko, and $100M of wasted taxpayer money, from Channel 5, NBC news, Chicago's most respected TV news program.

How do you explain away the fact that Barry Obama never followed up on the 11 slums that his friend Rezko was supposed to repair in Obama's district in Chicago, and continued to do nothing about the 40 slums that Rezko was supposed to repair or replace in Chicago, even after Obama joined the US Senate?

From the Chicago Sun Times:

For more than five weeks during the brutal winter of 1997, tenants shivered without heat in a government-subsidized apartment building on Chicago's South Side.

It was just four years after the landlords -- Antoin "Tony'' Rezko and his partner Daniel Mahru -- had rehabbed the 31-unit building in Englewood with a loan from Chicago taxpayers.

Rezko and Mahru couldn't find money to get the heat back on.

But their company, Rezmar Corp., did come up with $1,000 to give to the political campaign fund of Barack Obama, the newly elected state senator whose district included the unheated building....

The building in Englewood was one of 30 Rezmar rehabbed in a series of troubled deals largely financed by taxpayers. Every project ran into financial difficulty. More than half went into foreclosure, a Chicago Sun-Times investigation has found.

"Their buildings were falling apart,'' said a former city official. "They just didn't pay attention to the condition of these buildings.''

Eleven of Rezko's buildings were in Obama's state Senate district....

Rezko and Mahru had no construction experience when they created Rezmar in 1989 to rehabilitate apartments for the poor under the Daley administration. Between 1989 and 1998, Rezmar made deals to rehab 30 buildings, a total of 1,025 apartments. The last 15 buildings involved Davis Miner Barnhill & Galland during Obama's time with the firm.

Rezko and Mahru also managed the buildings, which were supposed to provide homes for poor people for 30 years. Every one of the projects ran into trouble:

* Seventeen buildings -- many beset with code violations, including a lack of heat -- ended up in foreclosure.

* Six buildings are currently boarded up.

* Hundreds of the apartments are vacant, in need of major repairs.

* Taxpayers have been stuck with millions in unpaid loans.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse


User flooding board, making it unreadable


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Posted by: RG | May 4, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse


by Shallow Hal Contributor
(ORIGINAL AUTHOR of the now famous "Barack Obama's LAUNDRY LIST OF LIES")

CHARGE 1 - "The March on Selma got me born."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama was born August 4th, 1961. The march on Selma began March 7th, 1965. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2

COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama was talking about the general movement, not specifically about Selma.

REBUTTTAL - Senator Obama was in Selma, Alabama, before a mostly AA crowd at the Brown Chapel AME Church on March 4th, 2007. He clearly stated "because some folks were willing to march across a bridge . . . they (his parents) got together, and Barack Obama, Jr. was born. So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Alabama!" Barack Hussein Obama was born on August 4, 1961. The first march on Selma, Alabama occurred on March 7, 1965.

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CHARGE 2 - "My father was just a simple, impoverished goat herder."

EVIDENCE - Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was a privileged, well educated youth, who's tribal family owned and controlled all tribal land. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3

COUNTER CLAIM - He was poor to start off with, he only became an educated and successful man later in life.

REBUTTAL - Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was privileged from the moment of his birth. Being born into the powerful tribe of the Luo, he was graced with an 'upper class' lifestyle. He later would go on to be 'Big Man' of the tribe and work as a Senior Economist in the Kenyan Government.

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CHARGE 3 - "My father believed in the 'power of the people'. I believe in the 'power of the people'."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama has often stated that his 'father's attributes' are ones that he has sought in his own life. Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was part of a corrupt Kenyan government in the 1960s. He believed in taking land from it's owners and taxation up to 100%, 'if benefits' were 'commensurate to their income'. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2

COUNTER CLAIM - What does it matter what Senator Obama's father believed in?

REBUTTAL- Senator Obama portrays himself as a 'new politician' with a 'new way' of getting things done. Senator Obama has stated, "I did feel that there was something to prove . . . to my father." Senator Obama also stated further, in his book Dreams Of My Father, "It was into my father's image . . . that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself." His father's 'attributes' included '100% taxation' and repossession of land and property against the will of the rightful owner. Thus seeking the 'favor' of his father, and using his father's 'attributes' as a model, Senator Obama therefore must maintain similar ideals and respect for 'the people'. How these 'policies' are an example of 'belief in power of the people' is obviously highly questionable.

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CHARGE 4 - My family has strong ties to 'African freedom'."

EVIDENCE - Raila Odinga committed genocide while attempting to overturn the 2007 Kenyan elections. Senator Obama and Raila Odinga are first cousins. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2 , SOURCE 3

COUNTER CLAIM - What does it matter what Senator Obama's African relatives do in Africa?

REBUTTAL - Senator Obama campaigned for his cousin while on a visit to said country. Senator Obama claims a distinct debt to his familial ties, painting them in a light that is downright revisionist.

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CHARGE 5 - "President Kennedy rescued my father from Kenyan obscurity and airlifted him to the American Dream."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama's father came in September 1960, while EISENHOWER was President. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2

COUNTER CLAIM - But his father did come to the U.S. so what is the big deal?

REBUTTAL - Senator Obama misrepresents historical events. No speech by President John F. Kennedy brought Senator Obama's father to the U.S. in 1960. John F. Kennedy was not President in 1960, Dwight D. Eisenhower was President. The Senator is attempting to subtly equate himself with J.F.K., subconsciously implying he would be a similar President. Senator Obama, you are no Jack Kennedy.

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CHARGE 6 - "My Kenyan Grandmother has always been a Christian."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama's Grandmother's own interviews contradict this statement. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2

COUNTER CLAIM - What does it matter what Senator Obama's African relatives do?

REBUTTAL -It goes to a person's character and willingness to evade, distort, or rewrite history. Senator Obama's Grandmother does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews (per Islamic law). Not to mention, Christianity does not allow for a woman to be one of 14 wives to 1 man. Senator Obama's use of his Grandmother as an example of how 'Christian' his family is, in order to counter accusations of secretly being a Muslim, sustains the idea that the Senator is deliberately distorting the truth to cover-up associations and 'fatherly attributes' that he knows are problematic to his election, should he be forthcoming about them. His decision to make statements patently false in order to propagate a more 'electable' image speaks not only to his character but to his judgment. Distortions or edits to evidence that wholly misrepresent the truth is dishonest.

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CHARGE 7 - "My first name (Barack) is not Arabic - it is Swahili."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama's name is Arabic in origin, not Swahili. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3, Columnist Says Barack Obama 'Lied To The American People;' Asks Publisher to Withdraw Obama's Book, NEW YORK, Aug. 10 /PRNewswire/

COUNTER CLAIM - What does it matter where Senator Obama's name originates?

REBUTTAL - If the origin of his name doesn't matter, then why publicly lie about it? There is no transliteration between the alphabets of Arabic and Swahili. The Africanized derivative of the Arabic 'Baraka' is Barack, but the origin and source is entirely Arabic. Senator Obama again distorts the facts in an attempt to distance himself from associations he deems politically inexpedient. Senator Obama's middle name, Hussein, is also Arabic. Naturally, so is the Senator's last name, Obama.

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CHARGE 8 - "I never practiced Islam."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama practiced Islam daily at Meteng Primary school, where he was registered as a Muslim. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3

COUNTER CLAIM - What does it matter whether Senator Obama practiced Islam as a child?

REBUTTAL - If there is no importance to the fact that Senator Obama practiced Islam as a child, then what is the motivation for lying about it publicly? Indonesia requires students to study religion. Barry Soetoro was registered as a Muslim at the Meteng Primary School. One cannot participate in any studies within a Madrassa without practicing Islam.

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CHARGE 9 - "My school in Indonesia was Christian."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama was registered as a Muslim at Meteng Primary School. The school offered Christian classes as well. Barry Soetoro did not attend them. He later spent 2 years in a Catholic school SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2

COUNTER CLAIM - What does it matter that Senator Obama's school was Islamic or Catholic?

REBUTTAL - Again, If there is no importance to the fact that Senator Obama practiced Islam as a child, then what is the motivation for lying about it publicly? Indonesia requires all students to study religion. Barry Soetoro was enrolled as a Muslim at the Menteng Primary School where he studied among other subjects, Islam. In 1969 Barry attended a Catholic School. This is the only schooling Senator Obama discusses, thus Meteng has been somewhat covered up. Why one would ask? The only conclusion that can be drawn from this scenario is that Senator Obama lied about this school and its subject matter for political expediency. In later comments the Senator stated he did not attend an Islamic school, but in his book "Dreams Of My Father" he states that he 'got in trouble for making faces in Koranic studies' and was disciplined by his mother. One would ask how many Catholic students remember being taught the Koran by their nuns.

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CHARGE 10 - "I am fluent in Indonesian."

EVIDENCE - Not one teacher says that Senator Obama could speak the language at the time. SOURCE 1, (Kirsten Scharnberg and Kim Barker, "The Not-So-Simple Story Of Barack Obama's Youth," Chicago Tribune)

COUNTER CLAIM - What does it matter that Senator Obama can't speak fluent Indonesian?

REBUTTAL - YET AGAIN, if it does not matter, what is the motivation for lying about it publicly? Apparently we are to infer, by Senator Obama's supposed "fluency" in Indonesian, that he is very sophisticated and experienced in "foreign affairs". Perhaps Senator Obama feels that grade school French and Spanish qualifies most U.S. students as UN diplomats.


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CHARGE 11 - "I lived in Indonesia. I have more foreign experience than Senator Clinton or Senator McCain."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama lived in Indonesia from the ages of 6 to 10. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3

COUNTER CLAIM - Living in a foreign country is a much more in-depth experience than just visiting one.

REBUTTAL - To imply that living in a foreign country, for 4 years as a child, is equitable to official trips representing the U.S. Government is completely without merit. Also, implying that it also equates to receiving classified information and studying these subjects with personal political experience is quite ludicrous to say the least.

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CHARGE 12 - "My foreign travels and life experience better qualify me to address our nation's closest Allies."

EVIDENCE - Except for Africa and Middle Eastern Muslim countries, Senator Obama has never been anywhere else in the world. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2

COUNTER CLAIM - The Middle East is an important area and so is Africa.

REBUTTAL - Indeed it is, but that is not what Senator Obama was arguing in this statement. He categorically stated he would be better qualified to meet with our nation's 'closest' allies. Pakistan, Indonesia, India, Kenya, and Iraq can hardly be considered America's 'closest' allies. Implying visits to 7 countries in nearly 47 years (4 of which were in his youth) is somehow equitable to visiting 80 countries in 18 years, (as has his opponent, Senator Clinton, in various official governmental capacities) is completely dishonest.

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CHARGE 13 - "I was ethnically confused, that is why I used drugs."

EVIDENCE - Fellow classmates describe racial tensions and meetings discussing such issues. Barry Obama was not in attendance. SOURCE 1, (Kirsten Scharnberg and Kim Barker, "The Not-So-Simple Story Of Barack Obama's Youth," Chicago Tribune, 3/25/07), Dreams From My Father, pages 93-94.

COUNTER CLAIM - He admitted to using drugs in his youth. So what?

REBUTTAL - Either Senator Obama's family was to be idealized and their 'attributes' incorporated into his life to assist with his success, or his family's ambiguity, and latent racism drove him to drug use. Either the first is a false reality, or the second, but they cannot both be correct.

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CHARGE 14 - "I understand what it is to be an African American."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama is not African American according to U.S. Law. Senator Obama is an Arab-American according to U.S. Law. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3

COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama's father is from Kenya (Black African) and he (Obama) was born in America. How can you say he is not African American?

REBUTTAL - Senator Obama's racial background consists of the following: 50% white (mother, both sides), 43.25% Arabic (father, both sides), and 6.25% African Negro (father, one side, 1 generation removed). 12.5% is the legal threshold one must prove to claim racial status under the law. In addition, Senator Obama cannot make a sociological claim as an African American either. He was not raised as an African American, was not raised by African Americans, and was not raised in an African American neighborhood.

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CHARGE 15 - "I was an underprivileged youth."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama attended prep schools and later on went to Harvard Law. His Grandparents were wealthy bankers and his Step-father was an Oil Executive. His mother was also a P.H.D.. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3

COUNTER CLAIM - He went to school on a scholarship and had to use food stamps to survive.

REBUTTAL - From the ages of 2 - 6, Senator Obama was raised by his wealthy, grandparents. From the ages of 6 - 10, Senator Obama was raised by his mother and his step-father who was an Oil Executive in Indonesia; from the age of 10 until his early adulthood, Senator Obama was living again with his wealthy grandparents, one of which was the Vice President of the Bank of Hawaii. Senator Obama has attended prep schools like Occidental College, paid for by HIS FAMILY. He then went on to Harvard, the State Senate of Illinois, and the U.S. Senate.

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CHARGE 16 - "An Ebony article changed my life."

EVIDENCE - Ebony has yet to "find" the article Senator Obama mentions in his book. The FACT is that It doesn't, and never has, existed. SOURCE 1, (Kirsten Scharnberg and Kim Barker, "The Not-So-Simple Story Of Barack Obama's Youth," Chicago Tribune, 3/25/07)

COUNTER CLAIM - What is the big deal? He forgot the name of the magazine.

REBUTTAL - Senator Obama made an unequivocal statement. Ebony has found no such article. Promptly, Senator Obama made a new, unequivocal statement that it must have been Life magazine instead (read bellow). All evidence, both past and present, supports Ebony's claim that the article does not and never did exist.


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CHARGE 17 - "A Life magazine article changed my outlook on life."

EVIDENCE - Life has yet to find the article that Senator Obama mentions in his book. The FACT is that it doesn't, and has never existed. SOURCE 1, (Kirsten Scharnberg and Kim Barker, "The Not-So-Simple Story Of Barack Obama's Youth," Chicago Tribune, 3/25/07)

COUNTER CLAIM - What is the big deal? He forgot the name of the magazine again.

REBUTTAL - As in CHARGE 16, Senator Obama made an unequivocal statement. Life magazine has found no such article. All evidence, both past and present, supports Life's claim that the article does not and never did exist.


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CHARGE 18 - "I will NOT run on a National Ticket in 2008 because I won't have enough experience by then."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama announced his intent to run for President of the United States in February, 2007. He is currently still in the race for the Nomination of the Democratic Party, for President of the United States (April, 2008). SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3

COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama is entitled to change his mind.

REBUTTAL - The Senator certainly is entitled to change his mind, but changing his mind is not what the argument is about. It is about his unequivocal statement that he would not run on a National Ticket in 2008, specifically because he would not have the appropriate experience needed ("some people may be comfortable doing that, I am not one of those people") SOURCE. He is currently running for the top slot on the National Ticket for the Presidency of the United States (April, 2008).


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CHARGE 19 - "I do not vote 'Present' any more than any other IL Representative."

EVIDENCE - While 'Present' votes may not be unusual in Illinois, the number of 'Present' votes that Senator Obama placed ARE disproportionate. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, NY Times 12/20/07 by Raymond Hernandez and Christopher Drew

COUNTER CLAIM - 'Present' votes are used to block portions of undesirable legislation and is a common tactic in Illinois.

REBUTTAL - The issue at hand is not the purpose of the 'Present' votes but rather their frequency. 129 'Present' votes is not a common number for any Representative in the Illinois State House, other than Senator Obama.


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CHARGE 20 - Oops, "I 'misvoted' a couple times in the Illinois State House."

EVIDENCE - Only when caught by church groups and fellow Democrats, did Senator Obama request to change his half dozen "misvotes" in the Illinois State House. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3

COUNTER CLAIM - Anyone can make a mistake while voting.

REBUTTAL - The only time Senator Obama admitted to misvoting was when he was criticized for such votes. Inexplicably, Senator Obama followed such misvotes with 'Present' votes.


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CHARGE 21 - "I barely know William Ayers" - A.K.A. - Abu Zayd

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama announced the start of his Senate campaign from the front steps of William Ayers' home, in the neighborhood that they share. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3

COUNTER CLAIM - Just because Senator Obama lives in the same neighborhood with Ayers doesn't prove they knew each other well.

REBUTTAL - William Ayers (or Abu-Zayd), Louis Farrakhan, and Senator Obama all live in the same neighborhood. Ayers is the founder of the Woods Fund, of which Senator Obama was it's director from 1999 to 2002. Perhaps one might ask oneself; who chooses the director of the Wood Fund? Perhaps its founder? Secondly, if Senator Obama announced his campaign run in Illinois from Ayers's home, did he not ask Ayers' permission first? If the Senator did not know Abu-Zayd Ayers well, then how did he come to choose Ayers' front steps to announce his campaign? Random chance?


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CHARGE 22 - "I support a 2nd Amendment right to bear arms."

EVIDENCE - We enter into evidence a few of Senator Obama's quotes and votes on gun control: "Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions." (Jul 1998), "Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers." (Jul 2005). SOURCE 1, Source 2: The Improbable Quest, by John K. Wilson, p.148 Oct 30, 2007, Source 3: 1998 IL State Legislative National Political Awareness Test Jul 2, 1998, Reference: Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act; Bill S 397 ; vote number 2005-219 on Jul 29, 2005

COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama just wants to prevent criminals for finding and using guns.

REBUTTAL - Senator Obama's policy on guns seems to change specifically in regards to the audience he is addressing. There are many quotes from the Senator in which he suggests an all out ban on handguns. Bare in mind that these bans PRIMARILY affect LEGAL gun ownership.


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CHARGE 23 - "I Was A Constitutional Lawyer"

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama was a senior lecturer on leave of absence. He has never practiced Constitutional Law, nor ever obtained any such 'title'. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3

COUNTER CLAIM - He taught Constitutional law at his University and he is a lawyer.

REBUTTAL - Senator Obama was NEVER a Constitutional Lawyer, nor a PROFESSOR of Law.


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CHARGE 24 - "I Was A Professor Of Law."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama was a senior lecturer on leave of absence. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3

COUNTER CLAIM - He taught Constitutional law at his University. He is a lawyer.

REBUTTAL - Senator Obama was NEVER a Professor of Law, nor a Constitutional Lawyer.


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CHARGE 25 - "An Army Captain came to me and told me his company was divided and short of ammo." (claim made by Senator Obama during a debate.)

EVIDENCE - The Captain in question said the Senator had twisted the details. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3

COUNTER CLAIM - The Senator was speaking in generalities, trying to paint a picture of what is going on on the battlefield.

REBUTTAL - The Captain in question gave specific details about the situation, all of which contradicted Senator Obama's claims.


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CHARGE 26 - "I passed a tough Nuclear Bill. I am strong on Nuclear Regulation."

EVIDENCE - The Bill did not pass, primarily because there was very little nuclear regulation in it. This could be attributed to the fact that the nuclear power company, Exelon, has been a donor to all of Senator Obama's campaigns thus far. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3

COUNTER CLAIM - Just because Senator Obama's campaign manager is connected to Exelon doesn't mean Senator Obama wouldn't regulate Exelon.

REBUTTAL - Curiously, Senator Obama's bill never passed, thanks to it's own structural deficiencies.


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CHARGE 27 - "I quickly released my financial and legislative records, because I have no special interest connections to hide."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama took 13 months to release his records, while calling for months for his opponents to release theirs during the same period. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2 , SOURCE 3

COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Clinton took most of the year to release her tax records.

REBUTTAL - Senator Obama announced his Presidential run in Feb. 2007. He only released his records, incomplete ones at that, in March, 2008. Said records are riddled with special interest proposals and hidden pork. One example is General Dynamics. General Dynamics was the beneficiary of at least one of Obama earmarks, receiving $1.3 Million dollars for its high-explosive technology program, for the Army's Bradley Fighting Vehicle.


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CHARGE 28 - "I have the solutions to repair our economy."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama voted against his own economic proposal package. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2

COUNTER CLAIM - Washington is in a stalemate. Senator Obama has fresh ideas.

REBUTTAL - Senator Obama's 111 economic proposals were just combined into an amendment to a bill, and the amendment was defeated 97-0. Senator Obama rejected his own proposals; apparently, they were not the solutions or 'fresh ideas' he was speaking about.


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CHARGE 29 - "I have been a bold leader in Illinois."

EVIDENCE - The Senator's own supporters cannot recall any 'Bold' action on his part. SOURCE 1 , SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3

COUNTER CLAIM - He passed legislation to videotape interrogations by the police department.

REBUTTAL - Senator Obama indeed passed into law such various bills, however, a great many of these bills were only 'appointed' to him as their sponsor - meaning they were created and worked by others and then Senator Obama's name was placed on the legislation to give him credit for the bill. In regards to the Taped Interrogations legislation, most cities in the nation have been taping police interrogations for decades. That would hardly seem 'bold'. Missing or refusing to vote on bills 129 times does not further the argument of 'bold' action either.


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CHARGE 30 - "I barely know Tony Rezko. I did about 5 hours of billed work for him."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama has known Antoin Rezko for 17 years. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3

COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama meets many people. He is a Senator.

REBUTTAL - Antoin Rezko first spoke with Senator Obama in 1990. Senator Obama worked at the Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland Law firm, specializing in legal issues involving land development. It is in this area of law that the Senator came in contact with Rezko and his company, Rezmar Corp. Senator Obama left the law firm for the State Legislature, while one of the firm's founders, Mr. Allison Davis, left his firm to form a new development company, New Kenwood LLC - with none other than Mr. Antoin Rezko. Once in the State Legislature, and still performing periodic work for his old law firm (now Miner, Barnhill, & Galland), Senator Obama used his elected position to provide legitimacy to his friend's new venture. He crafted a letter to the legislature that ultimately secured $855,000 in 'development fees' for his pals, Rezko and Davis. Mr. Rezko went on to be quite a staunch campaign donor for the Senator, raising at least $250,000 for Senator Obama while in Illinois.


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CHARGE 31 - "I have never met Nadhmi Auchi."

EVIDENCE - Recent testimony in the Rezko Trial has placed Senator Obama and his wife at a party where Mr. Auchi was in attendance. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3, SOURCE 4

COUNTER CLAIM - The Senator goes to a lot of events. This must have slipped his mind.

REBUTTAL - Whether it slipped his mind or not, the Senator did not deny that we was there (an indication that he believes further proof may exist to place him there) just that he did not remember the meeting. Strangely enough, the party was held just one week prior to the U.S. election in which he won his seat.


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CHARGE 32 - "I don't have 'bundlers' and I don't take PAC money."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama has 79 bundlers and has collected over $13,000,000 in lobbyist PAC money. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3, SOURCE 4

COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama has been careful not to compromise himself, "rejecting campaign support from Political Action Committees and lobbyists."

REBUTTAL - Here is a starter list of Senator Obama's registered lobbyists:

Timothy Broas $100,000, Frank Clark $200,000, Howard Gutman $200,000, Scott Harris (DC) $200,000, Allan Katz $200,000, William Lake (DC) $50,000, Robert S. Litt $not given, Kenneth Lore (DC) $50,000, Thomas Perrelli $200,000, Thomas Reed $200,000, Paul Roth $50,000, Alan Solomont $100,000, Robert M. Sussman (DC) $50,000, Tom Wheeler (DC) $100,000. $1,700,000 dollars from these registered lobbyists, or four times more than Obama's officially declared lobbyist sum. To date there are at least 38 such individual lobbyists donating to Senator Obama's campaign. PS - Having the wives of these individuals write the checks does not alter where the money came from.


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CHARGE 33 - "I don't take money from lobbyists."

EVIDENCE - At least 38 Individuals on Senator Obama's campaign are or work for lobbyists. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3, SOURCE 4

COUNTER CLAIM - Most of the individuals you site are lawyers, not lobbyists.

REBUTTAL - Most of the lawyers that make up this list work for firms that lobby the Government. 31 of them manage registered lobbyists. You may parse the definitions - these lawyers and/or their firms lobby the government and donate to Senator Obama's campaign. Either way, he takes money from lobbyists.


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CHARGE 34 - "I don't take money from oil companies."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama has taken nearly $250,000 from oil companies. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3

COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Clinton has taken even more money from oil companies.

REBUTTAL - Senator Clinton never stated she did not take money from oil companies; Senator Obama is the one that said that. Distinguishing himself as a 'cleaner' politician, less beholden to the oil companies, Senator Obama has obviously not been forthright about this issue. Senator Obama accepts money from oil companies and does so to this day.


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CHARGE 35 - "I have clean connections, unlike my opponents and most of Washington."

EVIDENCE - Rezko, William Ayers (Abu-Zayd), Nadmi Auchi, Rashid Khalidi, Jeremiah Wright, James Meeks, Louis Farrakhan. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3, SOURCE 4, SOURCE 5, SOURCE 6, SOURCE 7

COUNTER CLAIM - Guilt by association is not fair.

REBUTTAL - Associations one chooses to initiate and/or maintain speaks to one's character and judgment. For instance, Antoin Rezko - who is currently on trial for Corruption. Senator Obama has received a quarter of a million dollars from this individual, and has had to return it in ever increasing amounts, as the Senator was caught not truthfully disclosing the amount donated. Senator Obama also decided to participate in a real estate deal with Mr. Rezko during a time when he was proven to be under investigation. Despite this, The Senator made a deal to purchase a home, by dividing the property with the Rezko family. The property in question was divided, lot VS. House, because it was out of The Senator's price range. And so was the down payment. Perhaps this is where Auchi comes in? Only the trial of Rezko can tell us. Continuing, once it was determined that the Senator could not afford the property, $300K was promptly removed from the asking price (in 2005, before mortgage problems drove down home prices). Rezko's wife stepped in to buy the lot the Senator couldn't afford, saving him $625,000. Another associate of Senator Obama's is the founder of the Woods Fund, for which the Senator was its Director for 4 years, William (Abu-Zayd) Ayers. Abu-Zayd, or William Ayers as he was known then, was an American Terrorist who attempted to bomb the Pentagon. Next on our list would be Nadmi Auchi - Iraqi Billionaire swindler who helped himself to money from the Food Or Oil program and may have assisted the Senator is securing the money to put down on his Chicago mansion. Next we have Rashid Khalidi - former PLO spokesman and supporter of terrorism against Israel. Next we have the infamous Jeremiah Wright and James Meeks - rabid racists, anti-American preachers/community leaders, both have an affinity or a direct connection to the Nation of Islam. Speaking of the Nation of Islam, we next have Louis Farrakhan - renowned racist, anti-American, voracious Anti-Semite and homophobe - leader of the Nation of Islam. One would like to ask Senator Obama which of these individuals are the 'clean' ones?


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CHARGE 36 - "Unlike Senator Clinton, my donations have been thoroughly checked."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama took donations from arrested Bundler, Norman Hsu (as did Clinton) and Antoin Tony Rezko. Rezko is currently on trial for corruption (April, 2008). SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3, SOURCE 4

COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama donated the money from Hsu and Rezko as soon as he found out.

REBUTTAL - Senator Obama only gave back the money raised by Rezko when the media reported the donations. He gave back $7,000 to Norman Hsu, but with Antoin Rezko things went a little differently. First Senator Obama claimed that it was $66,000 he had received from Rezko; when the media proved it was more, Senator Obama claimed that his campaign had discovered and then donated $86,000 to charity. When the media discovered, yet again, there was more Rezko money then reported, Senator Obama stated that indeed they had found $150,000 that had come from Rezko. Senator Obama, seemingly exasperated with the story, claimed he had done all he could to find the funds raised for him by Rezko, and that he had donated all of it to charity. Alas, the media discovered again, it wasn't $150,000 but rather $250,000 Rezko had raised. When confronted with the new figures, Senator Obama was forced to admit that his campaign had found $250,000 of Rezko donations, but that ultimately only $90,000, NOT $150,000, had been donated after all. The campaign was forced to disclose the funds in question had already been used by the campaign. Senator Obama did not make up the difference and donate it to charity, despite having raised some $243,000,000 to date (April, 2008)


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CHARGE 37 - "I only discovered I had investment conflicts through the mail."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama's investment conflicts were not brought to his attention by mail. Skyterra and AVI never sent letters to Senator Obama. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, (Nedra Pickler, "Obama Unaware Of Investment Conflicts," The Associated Press, 3/7/07)

COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama is a busy man. He must have forgotten.

REBUTTAL - Both Skyterra and AVI have no record of any such letter ever being created or sent. In fact Skyterra didn't send out a stockholder's letter to ANYONE in 2005, the year Senator Obama's conflict was uncovered, but was not disclosed by the Senator until reported in the media.


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CHARGE 38 - "I sponsored dozens of my own bills in one year and passed them in the Illinois State Senate."

EVIDENCE - State Senator Ricky Hendon 'appointed' Obama as sponsor of Hendon's high-profile legislation. Not one of those Bills was truly sponsored by Senator Obama. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3, SOURCE 4

COUNTER CLAIM - But Senator Obama did sponsor and pass the bills.

REBUTTAL - Senator Obama was 'appointed' the sponsor of bills originated and crafted by Senator Hendon. Senator Obama attached his signature to the bill, thus conspicuously taking credit for it's sponsorship and passage. Additionally Emil Jones had to direct Senator Obama to craft certain legislation. It was not spontaneously created by Senator Obama.


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CHARGE 39 - "I believe in fairness, not tactics, to win elections."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama hired a team of investigators to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against him. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3

COUNTER CLAIM - Some of the signatures for Alice Palmer were forged.

REBUTTAL - 4 of the signatures were found to be forgeries. Senator Obama used investigators and little known political tactics to eliminate his opposition. He then went on to run uncontested.


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CHARGE 40 - "I cleaned up the Altgeld Gardens Asbestos case."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama failed to mention the many others who assisted and had taken the lead in solving this problem. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2 (Peter Wallsten, "Obama Memoir Left Out Credits For Activism, Critics Say," Los Angeles Times, 2/19/07)

COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama DID solve the problem of Altgeld Gardens.

REBUTTAL - Left to stand alone, the implication from Senator Obama is that he was the person that solved the Altgeld Gardens issue, alone. This is patently false.


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CHARGE 41 - "I inspire people with my words."

EVIDENCE - Obama inspires people with other people's words. It's called plagiarizing. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3

COUNTER CLAIM - Lots of people borrow a few words from speeches. That's not plagiarizing.

REBUTTAL - Plagiarism refers to another person's intellectual creations being passed off as one's own. Plagiarism is not nullified because the material was used with permission, which until caught by the media, Senator Obama did not have (permission) in regards to Deval Patrick's speeches. Senator Obama uses his speeches, and their reactions, as evidence that he is connecting with his audience through his own power, and thus based on that power and it's unique capacity to inspire citizens, we should elect him to office. Senator Obama has plagiarized speeches, songs, and entire passages of dialogue from film and television. Additionally, a large portion of Senator Obama's speeches that were not plagiarized were written by his very young and White speech-writer Jon Favreau, NOT Senator Obama.


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CHARGE 42 - "No one from my campaign discussed NAFTA with anyone in Canada."

EVIDENCE - The Canadian Government issued the names and details of the conversation Senator Obama's campaign had with them. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3

COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama is a busy man - he just goofed.

REBUTTAL - Again? Senator Obama has made a multitude of unequivocal, absolute statements of fact which have proven to be complete fabrications once investigated. The fact is the Canadian Government, when accused of inventing the story by Senator Obama's campaign, released details of a memo and the names of the participants in the conversation. Senator Obama's campaign offered no rebuttal. Perhaps because there was no rebuttal to be made - the story was true from the start.


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CHARGE 43 - "I won Michigan!"

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama removed his name from the ballot after horrible poll numbers showed he would lose big. He later attempted to get voters to choose Uncommitted as a way of showing their support for him; Senator Clinton beat everyone on and off the ballot 55% to 40%. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3, SOURCE 4

COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot.

REBUTTAL - If Senator Obama's name wasn't on the ballot, how then did he win? Senator Obama deliberately removed his name from the ballot after extensive polling conducted early in the campaign showed he would lose significantly. Thus Senator Obama took his name off the ballot, not because Party Rules said the vote wouldn't count. If that were the Senator's reasoning, why did he leave his name on the ballot in Florida? Perhaps because extensive polling in Florida early on showed him that he stood a good chance of picking up quite a few delegates should he be able to force their inclusion at the convention. Seeing as he was utterly destroyed in the Florida Primary, where all names were on the ballot but only Senator Obama ran ads, he hasn't sought to seat any of the delegates he won.


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CHARGE 44 - "I won Nevada."

EVIDENCE - Senator Clinton won Nevada 51% to 45% over Senator Obama. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2,

COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama won 13 delegates, Clinton only won 12, so Senator Obama won Nevada!

REBUTTAL - Senator Clinton won Nevada 51% to 45% over Senator Obama. With 2 Super Delegates selecting her in Nevada, she won 14 delegates total to Senator Obama's 13.
She also won the Popular vote.


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CHARGE 45 - "I believe in every vote counting. I support the people's vote as their voice."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama stalled on revote options in Michigan and Florida, until it was too late to hold any revote. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3

COUNTER CLAIM - Caucuses are cheaper and they are a legal form of voting.

REBUTTAL - Caucuses may be cheap and they may be legal, for now, but they are a poor way to represent the will of the people. Caucuses force public declarations of choice in front of family, friends, and possibly employers. They have a very short window of operation and are often held during work hours in the middle of a work day. Their results are in the low tens of thousands, thus that small majority is held to reflect the will of a state with millions of registered voters. As for Michigan and Florida, despite being penalized by party leaders for shifts in the election dates beyond the party's control in the state, Senator Obama was in no hurry to offer any solution other than a quick, cheap caucus for Florida and Michigan. Ultimately his stalling and tactics ran the clock out; millions of voters voices will not be heard.


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CHARGE 46 - "I didn't run ads in Florida."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama was the only democratic candidate running ads in the state. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3, SOURCE 4

COUNTER CLAIM - No Democratic candidate ran ads in Florida.

REBUTTAL - Senator Obama allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks - and still lost by nearly 300,000 votes. One phone call could have stopped the ads. He left them to run.


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CHARGE 47 - "My campaign was extorted by a friend!"

EVIDENCE - Old classmate Keith Kakugawa was "infuriated" by the charge and flatly denied it. (Maurice Possley, Kirsten Scharnberg and Ray Gibson, "An Old Friend's Troublesome Return," Chicago Tribune, 3/25/07), (Maurice Possley, et al, "An Old Friend's Troublesome Return,"
Chicago Tribune, 3/25/07)

COUNTER CLAIM - Mr. Kakugawa is homeless and desperate and is trying to use Senator Obama's new found fame to his advantage.

REBUTTAL - Mr. Kakugawa has done nothing of the sort. Senator Obama, clearly having a case for extortion or blackmail, in addition to libel if his own claims are true, has not sought legal assistance with this onslaught of defamation. No news agency has reported any aggressive dialogue from Mr. Kakugawa and no claims or charges of misconduct have so far been aired on any media outlet.


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CHARGE 48 - "My campaign didn't do the "1984" hate ad against Clinton. We didn't have the capabilities or the inclination."

EVIDENCE - Your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple laptop, in one afternoon. (CNN's "Larry King Live," 3/24/07), (Jake Tapper and Jonathan Greenberger, "Anti-Clinton Ad Maker Lived With Obama Senate Staffer," ABC News, 3/23/07), (Dan Morain, "Ad Creator Claimed Role In Obama Campaign," Los Angeles Times, 3/23/07), (Jake Tapper and Jonathan Greenberger, "Anti-Clinton Ad Maker Lived With Obama Senate Staffer," ABC News, 3/23/07)

COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama can't be on top of everything while traveling the country. He says his campaign wasn't involved and I believe him!

REBUTTAL - "1984" Ad creator Phil De Vellis was an employee of the Blue State Digital computer firm that is among Obama's consultants. Senator Obama's claim that his campaign's connections to De Vellis were thin at best, were further eroded when it was revealed The Senator's Press Secretary had recently lived with Mr. De Vellis. Furthermore earlier emails from De Vellis bragged about how he had created, while working at Blue State Digital. Joe Rospars, Blue State Digital's founder, is now Senator Obama's media director.

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CHARGE 49 - "I have sponsored and passed plenty of Bills in the U.S. Senate. I have experience."

EVIDENCE - You have passed 2 BILLs in the U.S. Senate - one for Africa and one that makes lobbyists stand while they eat. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3

COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama has sponsored 123 Bills in the US Senate.

REBUTTAL - Senator Obama has one of the worst records for getting bills passed that he has sponsored in the US Senate. That sounds like experience most of us wouldn't want. The Senator has sponsored and passed 2 Bills in the US Senate - one for the Congo (shock and awe?) and one that makes lobbyists stand when they eat. Impressive work for 4 years on the job.


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CHARGE 50 - "I am tough on Terrorism!"

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama's friends include Louis Farrakhan, Rashid Khalidi, Nadhmi Auchi, and Ali Abunimah, most support Palestinian terrorism and the destruction of Israel. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3, SOURCE 4

COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama said he would strike terrorists in Pakistan, even without permission. That is tough.

REBUTTAL - That is not tough - it is stupid. Pakistan is a nuclear nation and a fragile if not reluctant ally of the United States. Senator Obama missed the Iran Resolution to declare the Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization. In addition, he remains on friendly terms and accepts donations from Louis Farrakhan and Jeremiah Wright - Nation of Islam members that support Hamas' call for the destruction of Israel. Wright even reprinted the Hamas Manifesto for his church members, possibly including the Obama family, who were in attendance. Senator Obama continues his associations with Rashid Khalidi, the former PLO spokesman and supporter of Palestinian Suicide Bombers. Nadhmi Auchi and Ali Abunimah have been involved financially with structures opposed to Israel's right to exist. With friends like these, including American Terrorist William Abu-Zayd Ayers, who needs Jihadists?


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CHARGE 51 - "I respect the office of the President. I will do everything I can to uphold it's honor and integrity."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama's campaign has secretly discussed NAFTA and has legitimized the FARC terrorist organization, outside of the public's knowledge and before the Senator has won the election. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3, SOURCE 4, SOURCE 5

COUNTER CLAIM - There is little evidence that Senator Obama has dealt with either NAFTA or the FARC.

REBUTTAL - The Canadian Government released details of a conversation that Senator Obama's campaign said never happened, showing that the Senator's representatives were discussing NAFTA prior to the Senator having won the Nomination, let alone the Presidency. In addition, Raul Reyes, the leader of the FARC terrorist organization attempting to topple the Columbian Government was found dead. On his corpse was found communication relating to legitimacy status once Senator Obama was elected President. This letter eluded to Senator Obama's campaign having contacted the former FARC leader.

I'm not President, I just play one on TV - doesn't seem very respectful to us.


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CHARGE 52 - "I am stronger on the issue of the Iraq than either Senator Clinton or Senator McCain."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama has voted for every single Iraq bill since taking office. With many Iraqi millionaires donating to Senator Obama's campaign, perhaps they have been promised something once U.S. forces leave. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3, SORUCE 4, SOURCE 5, SOURCE 6

COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama did not vote for this war!

REBUTTAL - Senator Obama was not in office to have to decide on the war. The Senator has made several comments implying that many of his stances or not that very different from the President. Of course over the course of the campaign, that rhetoric has gone all but silent. Where Denis Kucinich has voted against even the funding of the war, thus forcing its end, Senator Obama has voted for every single monetary increase in spending so far brought forward. Furthermore, he has adjusted, mostly in private talks, the departure time frame for troops, implying like NAFTA, he is 'talking for the camera'.


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CHARGE 53 - "I have always supported Universal Health Care."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama's health care plan allows 15,000,000 to opt out of having it, forcing Americans to pay for their unpaid bills. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3

COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama's plan will have mandated coverage just like Senator Clintons! His plan is Universal.

REBUTTAL - Senator Obama's mandate for health care coverage applies only to children. Once they are adults then can opt out of buying health care. Any emergency room visits or other health service costs they cannot afford will be passed onto the tax payers of America. His plan is no where near Universal.


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CHARGE 54 - "I don't have to show my patriotism to be patriotic. A pin on my lapel is not important."

EVIDENCE - Senator is often the only person on stage, at the playing of the National Anthem, that has his hands clasped in front of him and not over his heart. He usually (almost never) refuses to wear a flag pin, even when on Capitol Hill. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3

COUNTER CLAIM - Big deal. He doesn't wear a flag pin and he doesn't hold his hand over his heart. So what?

REBUTTAL - Being the President Of The United States means representing us all, at home and around the world; our traditions, our values, our beliefs, and our dreams. If a President cannot set an example of what American values look like, sound like, and feel like, then he or she is doing a disservice to us all, by misrepresenting our Nation. The President shows deference and respect to the Nation and the People first - his own preferences taking a back seat to the office. For someone supposedly representing us all, our values and our beliefs, Senator Obama seems to feel his own core beliefs take precedence over what tradition or the public expects. This is further articulated in his fictionalized memoirs and in his associations. Two of his associations strike the most concern as they are quite opposite what the mainstream American would say reflects their values and beliefs. Case in point: the Nation Of Islam and Trinity Church. The Nation Of Islam and Trinity Church have a less then stellar appreciation for the flag of the United States. They blame Whites for Aids being so prevalent in the African American community and they believe that slavery is a debt that must be paid, no matter the chaos, no matter the dissolution of the present society at large. In fact both of these institutions are headed by Muslims or 'former' Muslims. They have said they would accept little else but the complete capitulation and reinvention of America, with Afro-Centric concerns trumping all others.. Senator Obama's spiritual leader has preached harsh, Afro-Centric revisionism for 2 decades, with the Senator in attendance throughout. Louis Farrakhan, an ultra-radical, and founder of the Nation Of Islam, who is a strong hater of Israel and America, is a neighbor of Senator Obama's and has met with the Senator numerous times, famously during the Million Man March. As for the Senator's experience with America and her allies, Senator Obama has curiously spent more time in foreign nations that our are ideological adversaries then our sisters in spirit. This is a strange way to show one's patriotism and love of country.


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CHARGE 55 - "My wife's pay raise was deserved. She is the Vice President of U of C hospital."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama's wife's pay raise was nearly 150% her already bloated salary as one of 13 VP's U of C Hospital has on staff. Her raise was less then 1 month after her husband won his senate seat. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3, SOURCE 4, SOURCE 5

COUNTER CLAIM - Michelle's pay at U of C Hospital is irrelevant.

REBUTTAL - Again, it goes to the honesty and integrity that the Senator and his wife speak about in public. Pay raises that double your salary, a couple of weeks after your husband is elected to an office that can greatly assist the hospital in securing funds, seems somewhat convenient to say the least. In addition this not-for-profit hospital made an amazing $100 Million during the past 3 years. Perhaps some of that profit came from the fact the hospital, despite 13 Vice Presidents including Mrs. Obama, never noticed that patients were being billed, through Medicare and Medicaid, at rates 580% higher then average, for common services. More alarming still is the fact that African American patients were charged on average, 6 times the rates that white patients were charged. Again, with 13 Vice Presidents whose salaries total many millions, how could these terrible imbalances go unnoticed?


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CHARGE 56 - "My wife's words were taken out of context. She didn't mean she has never been proud of America."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama, your wife's comments were complete and fully in context. She has never been proud of America until now - those were her words. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3

COUNTER CLAIM - Who cares what Senator Obama's wife said? She is not running for President.

REBUTTAL - Senator Obama's wife's remarks follow lock-step in the vein of Wright and Farrakhan, in relation to their hostility, contempt, and hatred of America. She may indeed not be running for office, but again it shows the Senator's character, in that he will perpetuate a dishonest accusation, such as her comments were taken out of context when they were NOT, in order to manipulate the public. Mrs. Obama meant every word she said, and those words were quoted in their entirety. One does not have to stretch the imagination as to where the genesis of such ideas took their first form.


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CHARGE 57 - "Senator Clinton was a corporate lawyer for Wal-Mart. I would not associate myself with Wal-Mart.

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama's wife has received nearly a quarter of a million dollars in compensation from Wal-Mart supplier Treehouse. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3, SOURCE 4

COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama's wife is not running for President.

REBUTTAL - True, Senator Obama's wife is not running for President, but it does show the Senator's willingness to misrepresent himself, his family, and their income sources in order to hide associations that prove unsavory or contradictory to public stances. Such willingness to misrepresent the facts shows one's lack of character and trustworthiness.


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CHARGE 58 - "My church is not particularly controversial."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama's church claims AIDS was manufactured by the US Government to kill Black people. P.S. Did you know Jesus was a supporter of slavery? Neither did we. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3, SOURCE 4

COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama is running for President, not pastor of his church!

REBUTTAL - Senator Obama has attended Trinity Church for 20 years. He claims, during the 960 Sundays in the last 20 years, that surprisingly he never managed to be in attendance during one of Reverend Jeremiah Wright's more outrageous and insulting sermons. It seems that despite the Senator not being aware of what the topic of the sermon would be, he simply lucked out, having never been there for such controversial sermons. Or was he? In the Senator's own words, during his 'Race Speech' after the media ran Rev. Wright's sermons on the air, Senator Obama said: "Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes.". Reverend Wright not only claimed that AIDS was created by the White U.S. Government to kill Blacks (as if Whites didn't get it?) but also that the U.S. was to blame for the attack on 9/11. Reverend Wright and his church published in their Sunday Bulletin the Hamas Manifesto as typical non-controversial reading material for Sunday services. After naming Louis Farrakhan Person Of The Year, and after stating Jesus supported slavery by the White man against the Black man, one can deduce these comments and suggestion are not just controversial, but also Anti-American, Anti-Israeli, and Anti-White.


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CHARGE 59 - I disagree with my church all the time. Rev. Wright is like an Uncle to me and you can't choose family.

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama continues to donate large sums of money to Trinity Church. This helps spread the churches' message. PS - Jeremiah Wright is a Reverend - not a relative. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3

COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama, as an American, has freedom of religion and he can choose whatever church he likes!

REBUTTAL - And we have the freedom to choose someone other than Senator Obama for President because of the judgment he displays and the company he keeps. The Senator claims 'You can't choose family'; we respectfully remind the good Senator Rev. Wright is not his family, he is his pastor. And you can always choose a different pastor if you don't like what he has to say. Considering the Obama's have donated on average $500/week to Trinity, or about $22,000/year, we find that a strange way of showing one's disagreement or dissatisfaction with one's church. Incidentally, Rev. Wright has just retired to his $1.6 Million dollar mansion, in an almost exclusively White neighborhood. So much for practicing what you preach.


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CHARGE 60 - "I never heard sermons at Trinity like those being played on Youtube and by the mainstream media."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama said: "Did I ever hear him (Rev. Wright) make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes." SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3, SOURCE 4, SOURCE 5

COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama said he disagreed with what Reverend Wright said, what more do you want him to say?

REBUTTAL - Not only did Senator Obama agree with Rev. Wright, 14 months earlier about having to distance himself from the church, (and Rev. Wright himself), Senator Obama said he had never heard sermons that contained anything like what the mainstream media and Youtube were playing 'on every station'. 3 days later, in his own speech, he stated ""Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes." 'What more do we want him to say?' We think 'I Lied.' would be sufficient.


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CHARGE 61 - "People are out to get me because I am trying to change Washington. My passport files were looked into illegally."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama's own Campaign Foreign Policy Adviser is the CEO of the company that looked into the passport records. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3, SOURCE 4

COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama's passport files WERE looked into illegally, and so were Senator Clinton's and Senator McCain's.

REBUTTAL - Not only is Senator Obama's Campaign Foreign Policy Adviser the CEO of the company that illegally looked into the Senator's passport file, the same company looked into Senator Obama's rivals - Senators Clinton and McCain - a year earlier. One must ask the question, for what reason would Senator Obama's Foreign Policy Adviser have to sneak a peak at his employer's passport files? He could simply have asked his boss any questions he may have had. Of course if one wanted to perhaps throw off the scent of snooping, once the Clinton and McCain breach became public knowledge, looking into everyone's record would be a way to do it. If everyone is the victim who can tell the crook? Nice try, Campaign Obama. Sometimes not the hunted, but The Hunter?


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CHARGE 62 - "Rev. Meeks is not involved in my campaign."

EVIDENCE - Rev. Meeks appeared in ads for the Senator's Senate Campaign, and continues to raise money for him during his Presidential run. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3, SOURCE 4

COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama is running for office, not Reverend Meeks.

REBUTTAL - Reverend James Meeks is another of Senator Obama's 'Spiritual Counselors'. The Reverend is known, like Rev. Wright, for tearing up the pulpit, with anti-White and anti-Gay rhetoric. Rev. Meeks invited Senator Obama to campaign at his church, has appeared in commercials for him in Illinois, and will be one of Senator Obama's 2008 Delegates at the Denver Convention. One can reasonably conclude that James Meeks is involved in Senator Obama's campaign.


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CHARGE 63 - "I have the best plan to cure the Mortgage crisis."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama's Finance Chair on his Presidential campaign is Penny Prizker, one of the architects of the Subprime Lending Scheme. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3, SOURCE 4, SOURCE 5

COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama has vowed to fight foreclosures on Americans.

REBUTTAL - Putting one of the masterminds behind the subprime scheme on your campaign does not sound like a good choice if you are on the side of the people. Penny Pritzker is a member of one of the richest banking families in the United States. She, along with Ernst and Young, helped concoct the mortgage manipulation that has resulted in the real estate collapse in the U.S. Senator Obama's plan does not call for a moratorium on foreclosures nor does it call for interest rates to be frozen to assist homeowners in catching up with payments. Additionally, Senator Obama has a long list of Subprime donors to the tune of $1.18 Million Dollars: $266,907 from Lehman, $5395 from GMAC, $150,850 from Credit Suisse First Boston, $11,250 from Countrywide, $9052 from Washington Mutual, $161,850 from Citigroup, $4600 from CBASS, $170,050 from Morgan Stanley, $1150 from Centex, and last but certainly not least, $351,900 from Goldman Sachs.


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CHARGE 64 - "I am running a clean campaign, high on hope and free of negative attacks."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama's campaign has launched over 206 media attacks on Senator Clinton alone. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3,

COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama has run a fair and positive campaign.

REBUTTAL - Senator Obama continues to launch negative attacks against his opponents while claiming he is merely defending himself. has amassed, with dates and quotes, over 200 media attacks from Senator Obama's campaign, many of which are first-strike, pre-emptive negative messages and policy distortions. He continues using phone and mailing campaigns that are both negative and factually inaccurate. We guess Hope doesn't spring eternal.


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CHARGE 65 - "I was being honest when I used the term 'typical white people', not racist."

EVIDENCE - If one cannot say 'typical black people' without being labeled racist, then the reverse is likewise racist. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3, SOURCE 4, SOURCE 5

COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama's words were taken out of context.

REBUTTAL - There is no context in which that statement can be made, truncated or complete, that is not offensive. Senator Obama and his family have spent 20 years in a church that has preached the miseries brought on the black community by 'typical white people'. Michelle Obama's statements about never being proud of America until now, and that American is ignorant, fits part and parcel into the ideology, tone, and direction of Louis Farrakhan, Reverend Wright, and Reverend James Meeks. To claim that they have never heard such statements made in their church raises the question of how and why have they formed such similar opinions in regards to Wright, Meeks, and the Nation of Islam. Having never being proud, calling your country ignorant, and labeling people typical, based on their color doesn't see new, hopeful, or different. If one were to infer any such thing to any race one would be labeled a racist, so in keeping with that established precedent, the term 'typical white people' is racist.


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CHARGE 66 - "My campaign donations are from millions of average people {bitter, typical white people too?}. We are winning in a new way, without corporate influence, or special interests."

EVIDENCE - The implication is that special interests, corporations, banks, and industry donations are not accepted. Nothing could be further from the truth. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3, SOURCE 4, SOURCE 5

COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama has millions of donors who have given less than $100.

REBUTTAL - True, Senator Obama does have many donors that have given less then $100. Senator Obama also allows the false impression that he does not take PAC or lobbyist money, money from Big Oil, Big Banking, Big Industry, or Corporate America. Here is a very small rundown of just how much money these special interest, corporate giants have been donating to Senator Obama's 'Grass Roots' campaign: Top Contributors: 1 Kirkland & Ellis $143,138, 2 University of Chicago $139,554, 3 Sidley Austin LLP $100,932,4 Henry Crown & Co $79,500, 5 Sonnenschein, Nath & Rosenthal $74,950, 6 Exelon Corp $71,850, 7 Northwestern University $70,430, 8 Mayer, Brown et al $69,960, 9 Jenner & Block $62,710, 10 Soros Fund Management $61,605, 11 Goldman Sachs $61,500, 12 Clifford Law Offices $59,550, 13 Simmons Cooper LLC $58,500, 14 Tejas Securities $57,250, 15 JP Morgan Chase & Co $56,600, 16 Ariel Capital Management $55,650, 17 Skadden, Arps et al $54,071, 18 Winston & Strawn $52,450, 19 Piper Rudnick LLP $45,600, 20 Holland Capital Management $43,350. The top industries supporting Barack Obama are: 1 Lawyers/Law Firms $2,464,360, 2 Securities & Investment $1,117,132, 3 Retired $857,601, 4 Real Estate $620,760, 5 Education $542,966, 6 Business Services $509,266, 7 Misc Finance $415,498, 8 Health Professionals $363,713, 9 TV/Movies/Music $299,233, 10 Commercial Banks $282,553, 11 Printing & Publishing $186,293, 12 Insurance $183,132, 13 Non-Profit Institutions $175,720, 14 Misc Business $150,991, 15 Hospitals/Nursing Homes $146,175, 16 Civil Servants/Public Officials $144,069, 17 Lobbyists $127,800, 18 Computers/Internet $125,333, 19 Construction Services $119,910, 20 Electric Utilities $102,700


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CHARGE 67 - "I am NOT the most liberal Senator in the U.S. Senate."

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama ranked as the number one Liberal in the Senate based on his consistent voting record. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2. SOURCE 3, SOURCE 4

COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama is just fighting for the people, what's wrong with that?

REBUTTAL - There is obviously nothing wrong with fighting for the people, but making false statements for political expediency is not fighting for the people, it's fighting for your own skin. Senator Obama has a clear record of extremely liberal views and voting as such to maintain or promote said views. From his stance on post-birth abortion, to guns, gays, meeting, without precondition, sworn enemies of the Un

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

- Farrakhan is an anti-semetic racist
- Wright hearlds Farrakhan
- Obama attends Wright's lunatic church for 20 years
- Obama will not say he'd retailiate against Iran if it nuked Israel

No surprises here...


Posted by: RG | May 4, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Obama supporters are immature, naive, and obnoxious.

They do more damage to their candidate than McCain ever could.

They rave about his "character" and how he's "a different kind of politician" without knowing anything about his history in Chicago or how dirty a campaign he's run.

There's a very good site, that shows just how dirty his attacks have been from the beginning in a timeline format

Obama supporters show a level of naivity not seen since "the children's crusade"

They fail to realize that his central arugment, conflating of the peace and prosperity of the Clinton years with the war and economic disaster of the Bush years, and his claim that he will "change" the tone in washington by changing how he interacts with republicans are both incorrect and illogical.

Obama's young supporters don't understand that the Clinton years of the 90's were great for America and just how much American's lives improved economically.

Obama's supporters fail to understand that by adopting right-wing anti-Clinton talking points that they are devaluing Democrats most valuable historical resource.

Finally, Obama supporters are showing people that read these blogs that Obama brings out the worst in people, not the best, and divides people, rather than bringing them together.

Obama is not qualified to run the country. He doesn't have the character or the judgment to do so.

What he does have is a rabid cult following that turns everyone who is not in it completely off to them and him.

McCain could not ask for a better opponent.

If Obama's the Democratic nominee, McCain will be the next President.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like what we get from two eyewitness accounts from partisan reporters. I suspect that there may be rude behavior on both sides. I suspect that neither Hillary nor Barack were there cheering them on. It is just a reminder that we represent our candidates even when they are not there.
I remind my religious friends that we represent God with our statements and our attitudes. God sees everything.
The namecalling, accusative language, and rudeness get us nowhere as a civilization. It is not surprising that people, even at Democratic events. may be less than polite. I see and hear it everyday on the highways, in the supermarkets, in the restaurants, and in our national parks. Oh, for a taste of civilization.

Barack can give us a taste of civility again.

Posted by: Earl C, Virginia Beach | May 4, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Shannon, you could not be more wrong.

Barack supporters were INCREDIBLY rude at our county convention (2nd phase of our voting system). Hillary supporters felt really intimidated. Total turn off. Even some of my Obama supporter friends were embarrassed. No one can beat Obama supporters for nastiness. The profanity and personal insults I have read directed towards Hillary Clinton is really shocking. Death threat emails to superdelegates, doctored you tube videos, hate statements towards Hillary supporters (calling Tina Fey a c*nt after her SNL sketch, etc). Nothing is too unethical or profane for them. A bunch of thugs, really.

Posted by: Toni | May 4, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Shannon, Thank you for your first-hand observations. It is sad that even within the same party, we cannot be civil. The lack of civility is what Bush and Cheney have given us for 7 years. The public vulgarity of both has been recorded and is not based on hearsay.
When it comes to diplomacy, I want the uplifting and thoughtful words of Barack to be translated rather than those mangled sentences of Bush and McCain. Words like "bitter" are not nearly going to be a problem than Bush's vulgarities and his misspoken English. No wonder we went to war. It was much easier than diplomacy. I have always noticed that when one does not have a brain to use, one uses brawn. I am tired of being represented by a schoolyard bully.
Obama has modeled the character, the morals, and the insight necessary to be a great President of all the people.

Posted by: Earl C., Virginia Beach | May 4, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Is it me or was Hillary just flirting with Miss. Indiana on Fox news?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Okay, I'm facing the facts here, so don't anyone yell at me, please.

Check out this article:

White Working Class. What exactly that is, I'm somewhat aware of. My dad became ill at 48 and never recovered. Mom worked in banks in administrative positions. If not for my dad's government service we would have been struggling terribly. As it was, his pension just got us by, but we managed to keep up the White Working Class image through it all.

I'm just sad now, because White Working Class has been dumbed down, it seems. My dad is a very smart man, and worked hard all his life. He is still very thoughtful and tries to see others points of view. But I have to admit, much of the rest of my family see things in black and white. And that is why I am sad. I come from a White Working Class family. I now have a college education. My wife, a legal immigrant and mother of our two wonderful boys, is just finishing her college education. We want our children to have a college education. And yet, the White Working Class seem to have signed on somewhere over the past decades to the idea that White Working Class will be better served by white conservative ideals. And now they seem so unable to think through the mess of negative press that they seem to be equating an ignorant black preacher to a brilliant black senator. And the very, very sad thing is that my white senator is proud of her ability to pander to the White Working Class.

I think I'm done here. I think the White Working Class, uneducated and seemingly proud of their lot in life, gave us Regan, and Bush, and Bush again. And they seem perfectly happy to give us many more years of the same. So, while the White Working Class continues to sink into permanent low paying jobs, and continues to forgo opportunities for upward mobility through education, I say "Let them have what they want: THEY DESERVE IT". Over the past years, as we voted in Bush twice, I came to realize that we are getting what we deserve. Those who vote for these deceivers are responsible, and those of us who don't try hard enough to change those perceptions are just as responsible. We have earned this country, in all its magnificent disability. We deserve how we are living. We deserve the problems we have. We deserve how others in the world view us. We deserve to have high rates of homelessness, uninsured and children in poverty. Don't get me wrong, not everyone who lives with these problems as individuals is the cause of them. But as a whole, "We The People", as citizens have take ownership over what we have constructed here. This country did not become as it is without us: WE DID THIS TO OURSELVES.

So, I'll continue to educate my children, and teach them tolerance towards those different than themselves. I'll help them to learn other languages and cultures. I'll expose them to sports and arts and math and science.

In short: let the White Working Class make their bed, but I know for sure I won't be voting with them.

Because I'm not a Working White Class man. I'm a whitefamilyman. I'm just like every other Black/Asian/Hispanicfamilyman, who wants more for his children than he had for himself.

Posted by: whitefamilyman | May 4, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

No, to buy (Bribe) a few votes at the expense of others. I heard she had a TIA a while back and I could care less if she had a full scale stroke while campaigning. What a piece of crap she is.

"Hillary Clinton's gas tax holiday, if executed perfectly, will save Americans only 17 cents per gallon. In the process, it will rob the money used for road and highway maintenance, forcing the lay-offs of hundreds of thousands of blue-collar workers.

It will cost 70,000 jobs in North Carolina alone!

And the basic laws of supply and demand dictate that the price of gas will increase in the summer anyway; this gas tax holiday would increase demand and raise prices even more.

She's laying off hundreds of thousands of workers, just so maybe potentially Americans will save a few pennies on gas."

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Q says "Hillary supporters are basically a bunch of old school Democrats who are miffed that their establishment candidate is getting competition from a young upstart who has the gall to challenge the conventional wisdom of the party."

Wrong. I am an independent who is excited about a democratic candidate for the first time in my voting career.

Posted by: Anniemarie | May 4, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

To HarleyinNC re: your comment "... why so many Obama supporters are so uncivil, crooked, intolerant, and so on, and why Hillary's supporters are not." -

At our second phase of the caucus voting system, four Hillary people switched to vote for Obama because of how rude the Clinton delegates in their group were (no Obama people changed their vote). The speeches in support of her by her group were so negative a few of her own supporters actually booed them. So you'd have a hard time convincing me the statement you make is very accurate. Obama is a gentleman, something politics hasn't seen too many of in a long time. There are those that consider it a weakness, but we will see - maybe America will decide it's time for civility to reign once again.

Posted by: Shannon Lorraine | May 4, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Obama is for real! It is about time that someone with his stature and character is elected to the presidency. Granted, when he becomes President, the long knives will come out. There is one thing that Republicans fear more than anything else is an electorate that is actually realizing success, progress, and prosperity. The fat cats who rape their corporations and leave nothing for those hard-working empployees who are out on their own with no pensions will tremble. No more Enron CEO pleading before a federal bankruptcy judge why a person with a mere $134 million left in his bank account should be able to avoid his creditors.
Yes, Obama is real. I have heard this garbage why the torch should not be passed to the next generation before. Those who fight the hardest are just the reasons why the torch should be passed on.
Yes, Obama has what it takes. I have read the messages laced with fear above. FDR said all that needs to be said about fear. Bush has run this country on fear for 7 years. It is time to retire the hawks, pre-emptive war, and "compassionate conservatism." Compassionate conservatism gave us the response to Katrina, has given us over 4000 dead soldiers in Iraq, has given us homeless vets by the 100s of thousands, and is now going to pass out crumbs to the masses.

Posted by: Earl C, Virginia Beach | May 4, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Until there are more parties to represent the different ideas in America, until the electoral process is overhauled (including term limits), and until we end the corrupting grip of the two party system absolutely not much will change one way or the other. Special interests rule the Government. Our glorious Constitution is bastardized everyday by the political pigs. Vote out most incumbents! Ralph Nader for President!

Posted by: trough cleanup | May 4, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

And they all broke out in song:

Copyright Reverend Irving Wright with twenty years of Amens from Barry Obama

While the storm clouds gather far across the sea,
Let us repudiate a land that's so called free,
Let us all be hateful for a land that's so called fair,
As we raise our bitter voices in a solemn prayer.

God Da-mn America,
Land that I loathe.
Stand astride her, yet despise her
With a chip on a shoulder from above.
From the plantations, up to Harvard
To the Jews rich from our blood
God Da-am America, keepin' us down down down.

Posted by: Al | May 4, 2008 8:17 PM | Report abuse

dear HarleyinNC:

the above states: 'Hillary, on the other hand, is the real deal. We don't have to panic when reality rears its ugly head, because our candidate isn't a puff of smoke'

lee writes: 'Hillary as the other Clinton to is nothing but smoke."

Lee wins hands down.

there is nothing real about MRS Clinton especially her resume'. She is running on the credentials of her husband. her senate record is dismal. check out the small towns in western NY that are getting smaller since the jobs she promised while campaigning weren't delivered. and she is the solutions candidate; do we have to elect her president before she shares these problem solvers and why hasn't she worked her magic in her 8 year tenure in the senate; too busy campaigning and still couldn't get it right. And we need to panic (and learn Arabic )should she win the office of the presidency and run the country the way she has run her campaign. the smartest woman in the world is turning out to be barely educable. Go home MRS Clinton where ever that is.

Posted by: james d granata | May 4, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

flip flop

Posted by: ann31 | May 4, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Well there is McCain.

zero earmarks


straight shooter


Posted by: Ed | May 4, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

SAT time for all the partisans out there:

Clinton : Pander/Lie/Deceit :: Obama : Inexperienced/Empty-Suit

Code words galore from each campaign!

Posted by: Q | May 4, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

I'm a religious person and I want to tell Barack to keep reminding voters that the Rev. Wright brought him to God, and that'a gift he can never disown. Any sincerely relitious person will know what he is talking about.

Posted by: Katherine Ellis | May 4, 2008 8:00 PM | Report abuse

When I see the word "pander," I know I'm reading the day's talking points from the Obama campaign.

Gas tax holidays do work, and more importantly, they are a sign that she wants to do something to help people, not sit back stroking her chin waiting for the perfect theory.

People are putting groceries on plastic because the gas to get to work is cutting into their food budgets. Most places do not have pubic transit like Obama's Chicago, so it figures he wouldn't be sensitive to this.

What's so "changeful" about doing nothing because the economists aren't "hopeful" about it? He doesn't offer an alternate solution that would help everyone -- does he think that would be pandering, too?

Posted by: Brownshirt George | May 4, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Hillary as the other Clinton to is nothing but smoke. She came to Texas and told us that there was nothing wrong with being an illegal and that she was for giving all illegals citizenship. Then why are so many Border Patrol Agents putting their lives on the line if Hillary wants to give illegals a free ride. Hillary will say anything to get elected.

Posted by: Lee | May 4, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

I somehow doubt that electing Obama will suddenly make Americans embrace one another as humans. What it will do is put an end to a polarizing political dynasty, probably bring some common sense to our economic policy, probably mute the influence of Big Oil on the White House (though likely not on Congress), and probably not do much to extricate ourselves from the Middle East.

Also, be sure that the Republicans will nominate Jeb Bush in 2012 or 2016 (depending on Obama's performance in office). So while Obama will end one polarizing political dynasty, the other one will be waiting in the wings.

Posted by: Q | May 4, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

As President, there is one thing that Senator Obama can bring to this fractured country of ours: peace. The racist institutions will tumble. No more can compasion or tolorence be one mans gift to another. We, as Americans will be able to stand, embrace each and every citizen as human.

Posted by: franco | May 4, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Paul, I'm with ya man, but can you post the Cliff's Notes for us young folk who don't have the attention span to read it all?



Posted by: Q | May 4, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

I believe Obama is not a typical politician - he is potentially much more and he was born to lead America at this time. The important question is - will America take up this generous and much needed opportunity?

Hillary can't win on the issues, she can't win on the numbers. She might win if she can leverage the party establishment sufficiently to over throw Obama's democratic winnings. While, as many have mentioned in other posts here, Obama has not exploited them, Hillary has many more skeletons -- and they are not even in the closet. I comment more on this in an earlier comment today.

The argument that her baggage has been picked over will mean nothing to the Republicans in the election. They will use everything that is there and stuff that we still don't even know about -- I'm sure there's more to come or perhaps to be invented in a way patented by Rove/Bush and currently licensed to Hillary.

Most important, Hillary is in my view fundamentally not a strong leader and most vulnerable on the issues to losing to McCain. Clearly, she does not possess experience competitive with him in the areas where she claims an advantage - ready on day one, security and war. Just where does she have any background that supports this - her say so and that of all the generals who have been told to back her? This does not give her the experience to go head to head on these issues with McCain. Indeed, she is untested except for the Bosnia sniper fire I suppose. And, her husband's experience does not count for her.

Hillary's way to the nomination even with leverage on the party establishment is predicated on character assassination and racism. Obama's character is good and she can't dredge up any real issues- no Wright and Rezko and a slip of the tongue about guns and religion that is based in truth are not real character issues.

So she has initiated the chatter about guilt by association and she is trying to find as many such things and thread them together and say it makes a pattern. Now this gives license to the fools, the bigots and those afraid of change not to mention to bloggers that can hide behind anonymity in the virtual world. Also, to those that are figuratively blind supporters of her and the Republicans who now parrot obtuse connections to unsavory people or events and look to get it said that Obama and his wife are unpatriotic.

The best way for the Democrats to win in November is to harness the movement for change in politics and in Washington that Obama is leading. And not just to win, but because more importantly, it is critical to America's future. Many now can see that this is a movement by the grass roots, not just a some well spoken words from Obama as some would have you believe. If Clinton got on the bus instead of throwing herself in front of it, all the more powerful. If she stopped crying "Obama is bad, the sky is falling, and I'm much better than what I say he is" and get on the bus, well, all the more powerful too.

I think now that Wright has spoken out so fully that the world can clearly see he has his own issues, this will now fall away. It is clear now that Obama is not Wright and that Wright is not Obama. These are two different people who are clearly of opposing views on the issues. To now even suggest that Obama also holds Wright's instead of the right views is like suggesting he believes in aliens. This is now clear to reasonable thinking people, which I believe the majority of Americans are. And these people know it is time and I think actually have already moved on -- it is way overdue. This is not expedient for Obama -- it is imperative for America so she can get on with the challenge of restoring herself.

I ask Americans to step back from the fantic blogging and the fueling of divisive issues that are being stoked. Particularly those that call themselves leaders in the media and in the political sphere. I think if you do that the reality of the situation and the immediacy of the unprecedented challenges America faces will lead you to understand that there needs to be a meaningful search for the truth, the facts and a meaningful discussion of what is right (not what is left or right).

If it helps as a reminder, I list the obvious challenges here, and I'm sure there's more if you take some time to think about it - the mistaken brutal, bloody and expensive war in Iraq, the mishandled war on terror, the still missing Bin Laden, the weakened economy, plummeting dollar, health care, Social Security, America's reduced standing, lost opportunity and near irreparably damaged reputation in the world, the crying need to be resuming global leadership to solve for eg - the financial crisis [made in America], the environment, poverty, health, etc.. And leadership is not shoot before you look.....

And, I would forcefully add underlying all of this, the challenge is to restore the very clear decline in moral fabric of American society which has been mauled. Just look at the tremendous waste of energy on the Wright episode -- the time that was spent by Hillary on this matter in her Fox interview for example. Surely this is not leadership or addressing issues - its ignoring all these important matters, and wasting precious time and energy on Wright (with a gleeful smile in the interview) and on anything divisive or derogatory to the opponent. This is about personal interest and dividing and conquering for your own ends and agenda.

A true leader would politely dismiss the questions about Wright or remark that it was a tragedy that he was so far off of reality on so many points. A leader would then move quickly on to the real topics. Leadership is about debating these issues and leading America through them. It is not about finding ways to use your power and position to arbitrarily, willfully and maliciously destroy the character of others in part through the mindless bloggers posting here. While, all the time, hypocritically promoting the notion that saying ugly things makes you a strong and tough person - a "fighter". And because the other person doesn't spit back in your eye they must somehow be weak.

And please in considering your vote in the Democratic primaries and in the general election look to what is in your own best interest and your families' and especially, your childrens' and their future generations'. If you do that, I think you will understand why you should choose Obama.

I invite you to also look at the prospects for America and Americans as a whole nation. It has the potential to be greater than the sum of its parts. Right now, it is notably less and a race won by exploiting divisions, will reduce it further. Just look at the nonesense in the blogosphere where everything seems polarized. Shame on the exploiters. There is no discussion. It is I'm right and your wrong. No search for the truth, which is easy to see if one just seriously looks. No balance etc. It is worse on the Clinton side in my view, something reflected in the high rating of those in her camp who say they will toss their vote in the general to McCain.

I am confident the American era of confusion, hate and fear will come to an end - it might be sooner or later but it will end. You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time....

America will get what it deserves out of this election - if its garbage in then its garbage out. America needs more than that, and to truly see the reality of the situation and vote for something different. If it does not, it will get more of the same. For something different, vote Obama. He may be just another poltician. But it is undeniable that he might be something much more and he is leading a movement for change. Why squander the opportunity?

I believe America will have the courage to vote for a new politics, a new discourse and a new future based on truth, justice and the real American dream. And it will again lead the world.

Posted by: Paul Stewart | May 4, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

>>> "so many Obama supporters are so uncivil, crooked, intolerant, and so on, and why Hillary's supporters are not."

This statement really annoys the heck out of me. Hillary supporters are basically a bunch of old school Democrats who are miffed that their establishment candidate is getting competition from a young upstart who has the gall to challenge the conventional wisdom of the party. The statement reeks of intolerance and stupidity.

Going beyond the demographics of race and class, this race is fundamentally about one thing. The old "Blue Dog" and "Centrist" Democrats known for their divisive politics and gradually and systematically accumulating power amidst the conflict they foment...


The young, upstart progressive Democrats who are sick of politics and just want to make things happen, even if it means being brash and insensitive at times.

While you could point to anecdotal evidence where a member of one group is in the other's camp, this is the underlying root cause of the vitriol spewed by the Clinton camp and the aggressive campaigning played by the Obama camp.

The old folks want to be on one last rodeo, the young folks are sick of being told to wait their turn.

Posted by: Q | May 4, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

I pray that Barack wins Indiana and N. Carolina big.
We need to move on in this country. Mccain cannot do it, Hillary cannot do it. These latter two will do well in the senate, working with President Barack to make America a much better place and the union more perfect.
I hear some folks say "over my dead body" will a black man become president in this country..ugh...better be careful what you say, it might just happen.Barack will be president and you that say or profess such thoughts may not be here! to witness it.
A man is a man is man is a man is a,yellow ,white or black. And when we are all done in this sphere of life we ALL BECOME DIRT or ASH!!!!!!nothing makes all men so equal than the fact that we are all born that same way and we all die!!!and become.......DIRT. Of course there is the aferlife...which is another post for another day. People of goodwill everywher,put aside your prejudices, fears, and idiocy.Lets face our future with some dignity and resolve. GO BARACK GO>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Posted by: dave | May 4, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Barach wants to be our president and lead our country through the pitfalls of aggressive actions of foreign countries.He has assured us that he is up to the challanges and rough decision-making a commander and chief must perform to safeguard our country in these difficult times.All of these tasks requiry intense scrutny and constant attention to the most minute detail and of course prompt action.

In light of Barach's latest statement concerning his denial that he knew nothing about his ministers anti-american views until recently it seems improbable that he didn't suspect anything was fishy when video cassetes of Wright's Hate America views were sold at the Churches front door every day of worship.
Hpoefully Barach H. Oboma will have a good excuse for his ignorance concerning this matter.

Posted by: John's Son | May 4, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

The gas tax holiday is a pander. Clinton and McCain have made no effort to even introduce it in congress. It is simply a political stunt designed to make people think they are doing something when in reality if implemented would result in a give away to big oil. If jobs are your concern this is a bad idea from the word go.

My vote is for Obama.

Posted by: Deward Bowles | May 4, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

From "Head of State"

"Saturday, May 03, 2008

I have been watching Sen. Obama during his weeks of adversity.

He has what we need--a transformative national vision, a commitment to a new and unifying politics, and to a long-needed truth in governance and international relations.

He needs to transcend other characteristics.

There is a prickliness--a sense of insult or hurt that, having given an honest message, the message has been distorted--a certain wounded defeatism.

He must rise above this and be strong.

This is the vulnerability of a man long without a father.

When raised under such circumstances, men sometimes become their own father-- accompanied by the grandiosity, limitlessness, precociousness, and willingness to quickly fill in gaps with apparent consistencies that is characteristic of a persona adopted in childhood, too large and too soon--i.e., Bill Clinton.

They too can become the agent of the genuine, intelligent, and heartfelt ideals of their mother, passed on, rightly, as the intelligent and humane truth of the world, but not buttressed by the daily measuring and inevitable confrontation of those ideals that can come from the presence of a father--the tensile strength and resilience that causes those ideals to energetically endure in the face of challenge.

Obama has recently shown an underlying hurt and lethargy in reaction to the politics of fear and attack--what has been reported by some as "boredom."

To win--and more important, to reach the goals that he has set out for himself--he must turn away from such disappointed reactions.

He must put forward his energy and strength in the face of distortion to bring the nation to a realization of what matters most at this time.

When he shows such disappointment in reaction to such events, he shows that he cannot stand up to the distortion that will inevitably come, and that he must overcome to reach the point of national transformation.

Barack: There is no place in this campaign for disappointment, wounded defense and hurt. You are taking on the gigantic task of changing the minds of the American people, including those diverted, suspicious thoughts that will inevitably rise from the restraining bonds of our collective past--and, as you know, will be encouraged to do so.

Now is the time for strength--strength of purpose and strength of commitment. Bring people to an image of what can be established and created beyond the trivial, momentary excitement of attack politics. Do not be drawn into the minutiae of a ground war, or into a position of withdrawn and injured hopelessness. A hint of this creates the image of someone who is playing the old game, by the old rules.

You've made this clear in your stump speech: This is your moment. Now--Fully step into it. Bring people to fully realize what they can have, with full energy, commitment, strength and belief: A nation committed to truth in its relation to the people of this and other nations, to the unity of this country rather than to tactical and self-serving division, and to the interests of the many, rather than the few."

Incidentally, this "Head of State" post predicted today's actions by Obama, in the following AP/Telegraph report:

"Michelle Obama: Barack has hit boiling point

Barack Obama is struggling to contain his anger and frustration over the constant barrage of questions about his character and judgment, his wife has revealed.

Michelle Obama told her audience that her husband was 'sick of the battle against Clinton'

Michelle Obama lifted the lid on the irritation felt by the leading Democrat candidate for the White House at the way anti-American outbursts by his pastor, Jeremiah Wright, have dogged his campaign.

He is said to be itching to turn all his fire on John McCain, the Republican candidate, who is benefiting most from Mr Obama's protracted tussle with Hillary Clinton.

Mrs Obama told a rally in Durham, North Carolina, on Friday that only her husband's desire to change US politics had helped him to control his feelings: "Barack is always thinking three steps ahead - what do we need to do to make change."

Her husband was thinking "I can't let my ego, my anger, my frustration get in the way of the ultimate goal," she said."

Head of State

Posted by: Robert Hewson | May 4, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

If you wrote any more positive articles about Obama you'd get a pay check from him...
oh, wait you probably do

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

The illusion that is Barack OBAMA.,00.htmlof why so many Obama supporters are so uncivil, crooked, intolerant, and so on, and why Hillary's supporters are not.

Obama's supporters have bought into an illusion, because they so badly want to believe it to be true. And what happens when you challenge a fixed delusion? The one holding it can become violent.

The Obama which is being presented to the world isn't real; and that leads to real problems for his supporters when reality rears its ugly head. Hillary, on the other hand, is the real deal. We don't have to panic when reality rears its ugly head, because our candidate isn't a puff of smoke, a ghost without substance, a dream dreamed by political utopians.

I think it answers a lot of ???? Why some support OBAMA, and others never did.

Posted by: HarleyinNC | May 4, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton's gas tax holiday, if executed perfectly, will save Americans only 17 cents per gallon. In the process, it will rob the money used for road and highway maintenance, forcing the lay-offs of hundreds of thousands of blue-collar workers.

It will cost 70,000 jobs in North Carolina alone!

And the basic laws of supply and demand dictate that the price of gas will increase in the summer anyway; this gas tax holiday would increase demand and raise prices even more.

She's laying off hundreds of thousands of workers, just so maybe potentially Americans will save a few pennies on gas.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

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