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Former Dem Party Chairs Pen Pro-Clinton Letter

By Dan Balz
Stung by the defection of a former chairman of the Democratic Party, Hillary Clinton's campaign struck back Friday with a letter from a group of former party chairs arguing that she has a better chance to defeat John McCain than does Barack Obama and urging superdelegates to support her.

The letter, which was addressed to members of the Democratic National Committee, came a day after former party chair Joe Andrew, who led the DNC during the Clinton presidency, switched his support from Clinton to Obama. Andrew said it was time to bring the nomination battle to a close to avoid damaging the party's chances of winning in November.

The letter came hours after the Obama campaign announced that another former DNC chair, Paul G. Kirk Jr., had endorsed the Illinois senator. Kirk's support, however, has been public since February and he was included on the Associated Press list of committed superdelegates.

The new letter pointed to Clinton's victories in some of the nation's biggest states as evidence of her broad appeal and said she has demonstrated the kind of support critical to winning a general election.

"Her base of support includes women, Hispanics, seniors, Catholics, middle and low income Americans, and rural, suburban and urban voters," the former party leaders said. "That's a formidable coalition tailor-made for victory in a November general election."

The signatories, all previously announced Clinton supporters, were: Pennsylvania Gov. Edward Rendell, Clinton campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe, Don Fowler, Kenneth Curtis, Charles Manatt, Debra DeLee, Steven Grossman and the family of the late Ron Brown.

"Hillary can win our party's nomination," the former leaders wrote. She is neck and neck with her opponent in Indiana and North Carolina. Both states have sizable voting blocs that resemble constituencies who supported Hillary by large margins in Pennsylvania, Ohio and other contests."

The letter concluded with an understated appeal: "We encourage you to continue to fully consider Hillary Clinton and the fact that she is qualified and accomplished. Too much is at stake for us not to consider deeply the choice we must make for our Party and our country."

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Posted by: hobdedsoday | May 27, 2008 1:50 AM | Report abuse

Hello my friends :)
;)

Posted by: EthEllhef | May 15, 2008 2:10 AM | Report abuse

Nice to hear them both speak on CNN live last night.
It's over for Sow WHite. Now you got it America. God bless you all.

Posted by: justadad55+ | May 5, 2008 5:34 AM | Report abuse

Why would anyone think OBAMA will be good president? Show me his record of accomplishment? Just by giving empty speech he can't get anything done. As far as I am concern Wright can give a better speech than OBAMA. Should we elect wright? I also know there are alots of other black pastor they can give a speech better than Obama. Obama is good for church not for the white house.

Posted by: pramod | May 3, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

James/Fred, whoever you are, get over your ridiculous arguments. Do you think any sane person will take any notice of your continuous diatribes? Nobody is perfect, but Obama is a good man trying to do something great for America. Forget your stupid little Republican obsessions-they are ignorance and fear, pure and simple.

Posted by: An Australian | May 3, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

James/Fred, whoever you are, get over your ridiculous arguments. Do you think any sane person will take any notice of your continuous diatribes? Nobody is perfect, but Obama is a good man trying to do something great for America. Forget your stupid little Republican obsessions-they are ignorance and fear, pure and simple.

Posted by: An Australian | May 3, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA HAS NEVER REPRESENTED "CHANGE" IN POLITICS. IF YOU DARE, SEE HOW OBAMA OBTAINED HIS FIRST ELECTIVE OFFICE: Chicago Sun-Times--A close examination of Obama's first campaign clouds the image he has cultivated throughout his political career: Obama, who runs on a message of giving a voice to the voiceless, first entered public office not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it. Alice Palmer, friend and mentor to Obama, served the district in the Illinois Senate for much of the 1990s. Decades earlier, she was a community organizer in the area when Obama was growing up in Hawaii. She risked her safe seat to run for Congress and touted Obama as a suitable successor. But when Palmer lost the congressional race, her supporters asked Obama to fold his campaign so she could easily retain her state Senate seat. Obama not only refused to step aside for the woman who was his friend and had recommended him for the seat, he filed challenges that nullified Palmer's hastily gathered nominating petitions, forcing her to withdraw. Had Palmer survived the petition challenge, Obama would have faced the daunting task of taking on an incumbent senator. "He wondered if we should knock everybody off the ballot. How would that look?" said Ronald Davis, the paid Obama campaign consultant whom Obama referred to as his "guru of petitions." Davis filed objections to all four of Obama's Democratic rivals at the candidate's behest. All other candidates were disposed of by Obama's challenges. He then went on to win the election.

http://tinyurl.com/2zwwte

Posted by: James | May 3, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse

HOW OBAMA HAS USED GEORGE BUSH/KARL ROVE TACTICS TO OBTAIN OVER $62,000,000 FOR HIS CAMPAIGN, SO FAR!:
The Washington Post -- April 11,2008 -- Obama gets plenty of money from big donors too: "Sen. Barack Obama credits his presidential campaign with creating a 'parallel public financing system' built on a wave of modest donations from homemakers and high school teachers. ... But those with wealth and power also have played a critical role in creating Obama's record-breaking fundraising machine, and their generosity has earned them a prominent voice in shaping his campaign. Seventy-nine 'bundlers,' five of them billionaires, have tapped their personal networks to raise at least $200,000 each. ... Donors who have given more than $200 account for about half of Obama's total haul, which stands at nearly $240 million.... The bundler list also sheds light on those who might seek to influence an Obama White House. They have helped the campaign recruit more than 27,000 donors to write checks for $2,300, the maximum allowed. Donors who have given more than $200 account for about half of Obama's total haul, which stands at nearly $240 million. The use of bundlers was perfected by George W. Bush, who in 2000 and 2004 set some fundraising records that Obama has shattered.
http://tinyurl.com/6dtgq6

Posted by: Fred | May 3, 2008 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Hey, AMERICAN. No need to shout so much! You say "FREE SPEECH, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. ONLY IN AMERICA". No, we have free speech in Australia and have long had a much better democratic system than you do. And we are certainly not the only ones. Your statements typify the worst sort of bizarre American jingoism. The rest of the world despises this trait. Vote for Obama and regain the respect of the world! However, the realist in me knows that we will soon have President McCain. Plus ça change.

Posted by: An Australian | May 3, 2008 6:36 AM | Report abuse

Hey, germanguy: "we are a good people who understand fairness." Really? So Americans condemn a man based on his pastor? So you play the race card? So you kill hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and turn millions into refugees? So you wage war based on lies? So you have a chimpy moron for a President.
Black is white.
Night is day.
Truth is lies.....

Posted by: An Australian | May 3, 2008 6:15 AM | Report abuse

One more thing, Shing,


It would be WISE for you to attempt to CHANGE YOUR COUNTRY where the GOVERNMENT HAS IT'S FOOT PLACE SECURELY AROUND YOUR NECK, FORCING YOU TO MAKE PRODUCTS FOR A PITTANCE with NO SAY in politics, rather than attempt to tell us about OUR POLITICS. You're no more than a BRANCH of MAINLAND CHINA. And save your crapola. I've been to your country too many times for you to attempt to run that game here!

Oh, I get it! A coward like you wouldn't DARE say anything about YOUR GOVERNMENT. They'd beat the hell out of you and stick your dumb, cowardly A$$ in jail.

Back to Singapore, loser!

FREE SPEECH, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. ONLY IN AMERICA!!!!

Posted by: I AMERICAN | May 3, 2008 4:23 AM | Report abuse

shihchingfu@yahoo.com.sg, You're an idiot.
And with a name like yours, you catch living hell attempting to run for anything in the part of America you attempt to so stupidly defend.

While I can't stand what Wright said, he has a RIGHT TO SAY IT. What he said is NOT UnAmerican... It's EXACTLY AMERICAN. His right to say what ever he wants to say regardless of whether or not you, sitting in freaking SINGAPORE, or anyone else likes it or not IS WHAT AMERICA IS ALL ABOUT.

He said nothing UnAmerican, he said that he did not agree with some things that are AMERICAN, LIKE DISCRIMINATION, SLAVERY, WHITE SUPREMACY ETC.

I defended his right to say this for over 25 years, visiting places like SINGAPORE where if you say the wrong thing you get WHIPPED like a slave. Where CHINESE control a country as Racist as America has been, with the Indians and other asians cowtowing to the CHINESE... AND AFRAID TO OPEN THEIR MOUTHS, except to attempt to tell us about OUR COUNTRY!

Or the Philippines where MARTIAL LAW subverted a person's right to say anything the A$$es that ran the country did not like.

And where you are you STILL CAN'T SPEAK OUT AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT!!! And from your twisted brainwashed disposition, you expect us to act the same way... AFRAID?

Unlike where you are mentally and physically, this is a COUNTRY OF, BY AND FOR THE PEOPLE.

As soon as we SHED THE FEAR MENTALITY THAT BUSH AND HIS MINIONS HAVE DUPED US INTO WHILE RIPPING US OFF, WE'LL GET BACK TO HEARING SOMEONE LIKE REVEREND WRONG AND RESPOND... SO WHAT?

P.S. Don't drop anything on the ground. THAT'S 20 LASHES!

Posted by: I AMERICAN | May 3, 2008 4:16 AM | Report abuse

Oh yeah, I almost forgot.

AMERICA IS DERIVED FROM AMERIGO, AN ITALIAN NAME. SO IS COLUMBIA (FROM CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS) BOTH IN YOUR ESTIMATION NON-AMERICAN SOUNDING NAMES.

FEAR ONLY CLOWNS AND HATE MONGERS LIKE YOU, NOT A MAN'S..... NAME!

I KNOW YOU REALLY WANT TO LEAVE NOW, COMMIE!

Posted by: I AMERICAN | May 3, 2008 4:03 AM | Report abuse

The Obama people and those who jump on their bandwagon keep on bragging about his lead in the delegate votes. The fact is that Obama was swept to such a big lead by the Black Power (over 90% of them voted for him) while the silent white majority remained apathetic about the Democratic primary processes. This was before the exposure of the hysterical anti-American theatrics of Obama's spiritual leader, Jeremiah Wright. The political landscape has since changed since the publication of Wright's blatantly un-American sermons and speeches. It is notable that Obama received spiritual inspiration and guidance from Wright when they prayed together in the basement, before he emerged to declare his candidacy in the race for Democratic predidential nomination, while conveniently hiding his pastor in the basement. This clearly shows that he was fully aware at that time that his association with the pastor would be a great hindrance to his effort to win the nomination. His recent denounciation of the pastor is just a blatant effort of political posturing to maintain his credibity, just as he has done with his political guru on the Nafta issue. He is just a political chameleon, thinking that he can fool the wise American people at all time. The vast majority of American people have received a shocking wake-up call and have flocked to the voting boths to show their distrust of Obama. The trends have shown that Obama is simply non-electable in th GE. It will be wise for him to withdraw now, or the onus will fall on the superdelegates to make the right choice at the Party Convention in order to end the discredited GOP rule in the White House

Posted by: shihchingfu@yahoo.com.sg | May 3, 2008 3:12 AM | Report abuse

GO HILLARY!!! ... All the way to hell!!

Posted by: axel | May 3, 2008 3:12 AM | Report abuse

GO HILLARY!!! ... All the way to hell!!

Posted by: axel | May 3, 2008 3:12 AM | Report abuse

GO HILLARY!!! ... All the way to hell!!

Posted by: axel | May 3, 2008 3:12 AM | Report abuse

Oh yeah, I almost forgot.

AMERICA IS DERIVED FROM AMERIGO, AN ITALIAN NAME. SO IS COLUMBIA (FROM CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS) BOTH IN YOUR ESTIMATION NON-AMERICAN SOUNDING NAMES.

FEAR ONLY CLOWNS AND HATE MONGERS LIKE YOU, NOT A MAN'S..... NAME!

I KNOW YOU REALLY WANT TO LEAVE NOW, COMMIE!

Posted by: I AMERICAN | May 3, 2008 3:08 AM | Report abuse

Oh yeah, I almost forgot.

AMERICA IS DERIVED FROM AMERIGO, AN ITALIAN NAME. SO IS COLUMBIA (FROM CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS) BOTH IN YOUR ESTIMATION NON-AMERICAN SOUNDING NAMES.

FEAR ONLY CLOWNS AND HATE MONGERS LIKE YOU, NOT A MAN'S..... NAME!

I KNOW YOU REALLY WANT TO LEAVE NOW, COMMIE!

Posted by: I AMERICAN | May 3, 2008 3:08 AM | Report abuse

Barack HUSSEIN Obama....?????

WHAT'S YOUR POINT?

The IRISH got dogged about their names the SAME WAY. Then up pops KENNEDY, REAGAN etc. As Frank Sinatra said: The government only harrasses people (Italians) with names that end with a vowel. Japanese, Spanish. Etc.

You got a problem with last names...
LEAVE AMERICA, SUCKA!

Posted by: I AMERICAN | May 3, 2008 2:56 AM | Report abuse

i also fail to see obamas charisma and energy in his appearances. i dont think he is a good public speaker.

Posted by: jessica | May 3, 2008 2:36 AM | Report abuse

i am one of the few young people(turning 18 right before the general election) who actually support Clinton. I think the main reasons so many young kids support Obama is because it's "trendy".
i honestly think that if obama wasnt black he would not even be a contender for presidency. in the beginning everyone was excited that a black person was running to see how it would help black americans. they talked about how his race and nationalities would help our status with foreign countries. wouldnt it be better if in 08 we actually elected someone based on experience and not looks or charisma (contrary to popular belief i believe clinton is not only charismatic but also funny)? if race is such a big factor in this election why does gender play such a small role?

Posted by: jessica | May 3, 2008 2:33 AM | Report abuse

10,000,000

new registered Voters

Since 2004 for Dems

32% GOP
43% DEM

plus

Posted by: | May 2, 2008 4:12 PM
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Re: The above post -- The Democratic Party has had so many new registered voters because many Republicans have been registering as Democrats temporarily to vote in their State's Democratic primary. Then they are switching back to vote for McCain in November. Obama doesn't have a chance to win in November. His wins are inflated because of the Republicans who have crossed over for the primaries, because of meaningless caucases, and because nothing was known about this man when he won most of the States he now has under his belt. He will never win because more and more negatives will be coming about this guy. We know Clinton's baggage, and it's old news. She much more political savvy and can handle tough questions and debates. Obama comes across inept and arrogant, almost immature, when faced with having to answer tough questions. He's only good when he can come out with a prepared speech. His being this Nation's President is as believable and credible as thinking Daffy Duck could lead this Nation. It's been all smoke and mirrors with Obama and now a lot of the truths about him have been seeping out, and his truths are not pretty. If he's our nominee, say hello to President McCain. End of story.

Posted by: Mod1 | May 3, 2008 2:33 AM | Report abuse

People cry out and defend the 'will of the people' when it is expedient and convenient for themselves. Cmoore is right.
The people never had control, not with Obama and not with the alternatives. It's all political and controlled way above the level of the people. So you need to vote for the candidate with the best intentions and the candidate who is least beholden to big money donors.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 2:18 AM | Report abuse

jULIE's point is well taken. Obama does have the money to buy the delegate support. But if he makes it to the general, campaign finance will become an issue. Repub's will call for disclosure and demand an accounting of his Internet donations. Hope for his sake 1+1=2.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 2:12 AM | Report abuse

Wake up people! There is no "Will of the Voters." This is not a direct democracy. There is no such thing as a one person one vote in the US.

Posted by: Cmoore | May 3, 2008 2:06 AM | Report abuse

And WHEN Obama gets blistered in the general, your vote and support cast his way will not be forgotten.

Posted by: thinktank | May 3, 2008 1:58 AM | Report abuse

Why is no one commenting that Obama has purchased his super delegates. Hillary has too, but to a much lesser degree.

Hey Wise up. Obama is playing the old time politics better than HIllary. He sold you all a bill of goods with the "Change" thingy.
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/02/15/buying-superdelegates/

Posted by: julie | May 3, 2008 1:36 AM | Report abuse

AlphaOverdawg - when you say 'if The Obama gets the nomination. We'll lose in a landslide, and America will suffer another 4-8 years under Republicans.' Are you saying you are a Hillary supporter and would vote for McCain? I miss the logic in your thinking if this IS the case. If you are an honest Democrat, why would you vote AGAINST your party? Isn't that a bit hypocritical?

Posted by: germanguy | May 3, 2008 1:22 AM | Report abuse

Gloria Y. Fredericks:

The only "needle in a haystack" anyone needs to find is The Obama's ORIGINAL substance on the issues dogging America. It's easy to find his UNoriginal proposals, just look at those previously presented by Clinton, and xerox SOLUTIONS "you can believe in".

Sorry for the Democrat Party, and sorry for America if The Obama gets the nomination. We'll lose in a landslide, and America will suffer another 4-8 years under Republicans.

Posted by: AlphaOverdawg | May 3, 2008 1:17 AM | Report abuse

Listen. Recall Hillary emotional moments during the early primaries? Perhaps when she becomes president she will become emotional to get other leaders around the world on her side.

Posted by: JC | May 3, 2008 1:05 AM | Report abuse

I skimmed through these comments and found as much anger and hatred towards Obama as I did for Hillary. What has happened to this country?

I read a post earlier on a different site by an individual who lives in Canada. The individual stated that they were following the elections here and favored Obama over Hillary for one simple reason - 'He looks at things in a clear and intelligent manner.' 'He started his campaign with the idea that he wouldn't allow himself to get into dirty politics. Unfortunately, he had no choices later but to defend himself, which I felt was reasonable, considering how he was being attacked.'

A poster further down, insulted this Canadian for butting into our election 'business'.

I thought about these comments for a moment and then it hit me. Here we are, Democrats (and others who jumped ship)with the same commitment to the well being of our 'party' and we are fighting with each other.

Think about this for a momment. Why are we judging these two candidates based on anything but their records and qualifications? Why should we let the media focus our attention on religion, race, ability to work a coffee machine, etc. This is so rediculous. And what pains me the most, is that people like you all in this post actually feed into this dung. We Are Americans! We are an advanced society, a caring people, a generous nation, etc. MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE ARE A FAIR COUNTRY!!! So show those who read our posts, watch our YouTube videos or otherwise follow us elsewhere in the world; that we are a good people who understand fairness.

I have not given any indication here as to whom I will vote for, but I will base my decision strictly on the uncontaminated facts.

Posted by: germanguy | May 3, 2008 1:04 AM | Report abuse

Who is Joe Andrews and why is he saying those terrible things about me!! He is a person who profited under Clinton during the White House years and yet managed to lose the Presidency in the next election... Thanks Joe. Perhaps you are actually in the Limbaugh fold.
For some reason there are many of us who cannot buy into Mr. Obama's vision due to its lack of any substance. He waivers his positions on substantive issues to suit the audience he is speaking to. Planning is the art of making dreams come true...and Mr. Obama has no plan so the dream is....poof!

Posted by: John L | May 3, 2008 12:57 AM | Report abuse

I'm told by the press that I am part of Clinton's base, "a woman and a Catholic".

The wonderful thing is that I am a strong supporter of Barack Obama! Obama's base has no boundaries. My sister, another woman and Catholic, life long republican too...voting for Barack.

Posted by: ACJ | May 3, 2008 12:43 AM | Report abuse

BLOWBama will NOT ever be president because he is a flip flopper and a liar.

It's true, we should be talking about the real issues, and the documented DETAILS FOR HOW TO FIX THOSE ISSUES (NOT JUST A BUNCH OF HOT AIR).

But when a candidate's character comes into question, the voters must recoil and investigate. Especially when that candidate has been preaching the tome of "I am so HOLIER than thou" as Barack has been.

Barack Obama is WASTING OUR TIME. Step down Barack, and let the credible candidates continue.

Posted by: Important | May 3, 2008 12:41 AM | Report abuse

Another problem for Hoosier voters:

"Clinton Criticizing Closure of Indiana Factory That Clinton Helped Close" (Magnequench)

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4/28/1...

Posted by: Junah | May 3, 2008 12:37 AM | Report abuse

Wow, here's a video that has a bunch of related videos that show Obama's a liar:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kkGGqufu2c&feature=related

Posted by: Truth | May 3, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Jill | May 2, 2008 11:58 PM

Are you Fred's alter ego, or James's, or is James yours and Fred's too, or you Fred's and James's? Your post's form and style amd method are identical to Fred's, and Fred's even repeat James's.

MOre imortant: You misrepresent your source, which does NOT support your assertion that "Obama waters down nuclear leak bill after over $227,000 in contributions from Exelon." Actually (as your source says), Obama sponsored a bill that would have stopped Exelon, but, because the votes were not available, Obama helped to arrange a compromise that did good much as was politically possible.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

This one is funny -- VIDEO OF OBAMA APPROVING RUMSFELD AND OTHER BUSH APPOINTEES
http://tinyurl.com/528yrl

Posted by: Fred | May 3, 2008 12:01 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA ON HOW DON IMUS SHOULD BE FIRED; Should we have the same compassion for him?
http://tinyurl.com/24lsxt

Posted by: Fred | May 3, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA HIDES HIS 8 YEARS OF RECORDS AS STATE SENATOR
http://tinyurl.com/yts7r3

Posted by: Fred | May 2, 2008 11:59 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA WATERS DOWN NUCLEAR LEAK BILL AFTER OVER $227,000 IN CONTRIBUTIONS FROM EXELON

http://tinyurl.com/2kpwsw

Posted by: Jill | May 2, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA HAS NEVER REPRESENTED "CHANGE" IN POLITICS. IF YOU DARE, SEE HOW OBAMA OBTAINED HIS FIRST ELECTIVE OFFICE: Chicago Sun-Times--A close examination of Obama's first campaign clouds the image he has cultivated throughout his political career: Obama, who runs on a message of giving a voice to the voiceless, first entered public office not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it. Alice Palmer, friend and mentor to Obama, served the district in the Illinois Senate for much of the 1990s. Decades earlier, she was a community organizer in the area when Obama was growing up in Hawaii. She risked her safe seat to run for Congress and touted Obama as a suitable successor. But when Palmer lost the congressional race, her supporters asked Obama to fold his campaign so she could easily retain her state Senate seat. Obama not only refused to step aside for the woman who was his friend and had recommended him for the seat, he filed challenges that nullified Palmer's hastily gathered nominating petitions, forcing her to withdraw. Had Palmer survived the petition challenge, Obama would have faced the daunting task of taking on an incumbent senator. "He wondered if we should knock everybody off the ballot. How would that look?" said Ronald Davis, the paid Obama campaign consultant whom Obama referred to as his "guru of petitions." Davis filed objections to all four of Obama's Democratic rivals at the candidate's behest. All other candidates were disposed of by Obama's challenges. He then went on to win the election.

http://tinyurl.com/2zwwte

Posted by: Fred | May 2, 2008 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Fred | May 2, 2008 11:15 PM

You cite http://tinyurl.com/3cxskw concerning Obama's "playing the race card." In its first paragraph, your source says:

"Obama and his surrogates have charged that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has deliberately and cleverly played the race card in order to label Obama the "black" candidate."

Then your source tries to prove that Clinton did not play the "race card" but, rather, Fox News did, by publicizing Reverend Wright's outrageous statements. Your source insists that the Clintons were innocent because they resisted publicizing Wright's statements though they knew them long before Fox News made them "news."

But the Obama campaign's points have been very different matters -- (1) Bill Clinton's comparing Obama's South Carolina win to Jesse Jackson's and (2) Hillary's, Billy-boy's, and the Clinton campaign's prolific use of Wright's statements once Fox News published them. Also, we have strong cause of believing that the Clinton campaign was responsible for Wright's National Press Club performance, and, so, we have cause of expecting that the Clintons were involved in the initial Fox News exposure of Wright's statements.

Concerning my last-preceding suggestion (that we have cause of expecting that the Clintons were involved in the initial Fox News exposure of Wright's statements), consider just two (of many) realistically pertinent facts:

(1) Shortly before the Philadelphia non-debate "debate," George Stephanopoulos (Bill Clinton campaign strategist and Clinton presidency official) sought and accepted Fox News counsel concerning use of Wright's comments (and other similar tripe) during the "debate."

(2) Barbara Reynolds, an active and avid Clinton supporter, arranged Wright's National Press Club performance (and sat by him on the podium).

Posted by: loup-bouc | May 2, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Here's the deal; DRC lost two months ago. No Chance of winning the game. Sorry, it's over.

Posted by: kevin | May 2, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse

It's plain and simple HITLERY will never be president(period). America will not have a socialist as it's president. Lest anyone forget Hitlery herself said "we will take things from you for the common good". That is not the American way. Here in the real America we want the government to get off of our backs, get rid of the stupid laws your dumb ass representatives have put forth. America needs a true leader, NOT a "sniper fire" Politician.

Posted by: dark amxim | May 2, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse

The appallingly low level of literacy and political knowledge of most of the people posting here only confirms the worst of that which the rest of the world thinks about America and the average American voter. President McCain will make a "worthy" successor to that monstrous fool Bush.

Posted by: An Australian | May 2, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

typo correction: If Hillary wins i probably will not vote at all..

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

i have to dmit, i find reading all of your posts fascinating. I do have to say that the mojority of you people are morons.. On both sides. Alot of these areguments have nothing to do with anything. It's totally hilarious. I voted for Bush.. I admit it was a mistake. So i am going to vote for Obama. I don't care about white and black because that makes no difference. And maybe we find out that Obama isn't as honest as he seems to be.. But geesh.. We KNOW the Clintons or dishonest. I mean they have proven it time and time again. And yet people still want to vote for her? I don't get it.. It's mind boggling. If Hillary wins, I will vote for probably won't vote. But there is no way she will win. And i have to say one more thing. I believe that the majority of white people won't vote for Obama cause he is black and that is pathetic. Just know this.. You are holding on to something that is quickly fding away... Look at your kids. 90% of them are mesmorized by african american culture. The music they listen to is black. Their idols are black. And it scares the crap outta you. Stop holding on to something that gone. A few generations from now, we won't know what anyone is cause we they will all be bi-racial and i think that is good. Hillary you are making yourself look like a fool and are killing your political career.. SO keep it up and you will go down in history as that William Hung of politics..

Posted by: stealth | May 2, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Im sorry. Is this even news?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

A VERY GOOD ARTICLE FROM THE PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER ABOUT OBAMA PLAYING THE RACE CARD:
http://tinyurl.com/3cxskw

Posted by: Fred | May 2, 2008 11:15 PM | Report abuse

A VERY GOOD ARTICLE FROM FACTCHECK.ORG ABOUT OBAMA'S SENATE RECORD VS. HILLARY'S

SUBSTANCE ABUSE
April 1, 2008
A widely forwarded e-mail claims that Obama's bills are more substantive and numerous than Clinton's. Don't believe it.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/substance_abuse.html

Posted by: Fred | May 2, 2008 11:14 PM | Report abuse

God Protects America from Hillary Clinton.

She must denounce, reject and repudiate herself for her involvement in the Whitewater scandal
The White House travel office controversy,
The White House FBI files controversy

Mrs Clinton is guilty by association of the power of abuse in the The Lewinsky scandal by Husband Bill Clinton.

She choose to stay and sleep with this shamless criminal who abuseed of his power against a citizen younger that his daughter.
Mrs. Clinton must denounce, reject and repudiate publically Mr. Clinton

Posted by: alma ludivina | May 2, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Fred | May 2, 2008 10:43 PM

So, you are James's alter ego. Compare your (above-cited) post with

James | May 2, 2008 7:39 PM
James | May 2, 2008 8:07 PM
James | May 2, 2008 8:46 PM
James | May 2, 2008 9:09 PM

And you say you are an Obama supporter. See Fred | May 2, 2008 9:17 PM. In your case, Obama supporter seems to equal Clinton troll.

Posted by: loup-bouc | May 2, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Obama wants to focus on anything but his own character and judgment. He cannot erase a 20-year relationship with a racist and anti-American pastor who he considered to be his "mentor and spiritual adviser," by merely making a public denunciation required by his falling poll numbers. This transparent gesture won't fool anyone but his most ardent supporters. The press has really let us down regarding Obama by not vetting him sooner. Perhaps they will make up for it by investigating the nature of Obama's religion; black liberation theology. Why? Because anyone who would subscribe to such a racist theology for 20 years, is not fit to be President of the United States. Rev. Wright cites James Cone as his theological mentor regarding the theology Obama has been soaking up for the last 20 years. Here, in his own words, is James Cone's description of Obama's so-called religion:

"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."

Posted by: Fred | May 2, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

HOW OBAMA HAS USED GEORGE BUSH/KARL ROVE TACTICS TO OBTAIN OVER $62,000,000 FOR HIS CAMPAIGN, SO FAR!:
The Washington Post -- April 11,2008 -- Obama gets plenty of money from big donors too: "Sen. Barack Obama credits his presidential campaign with creating a 'parallel public financing system' built on a wave of modest donations from homemakers and high school teachers. ... But those with wealth and power also have played a critical role in creating Obama's record-breaking fundraising machine, and their generosity has earned them a prominent voice in shaping his campaign. Seventy-nine 'bundlers,' five of them billionaires, have tapped their personal networks to raise at least $200,000 each. ... Donors who have given more than $200 account for about half of Obama's total haul, which stands at nearly $240 million.... The bundler list also sheds light on those who might seek to influence an Obama White House. They have helped the campaign recruit more than 27,000 donors to write checks for $2,300, the maximum allowed. Donors who have given more than $200 account for about half of Obama's total haul, which stands at nearly $240 million. The use of bundlers was perfected by George W. Bush, who in 2000 and 2004 set some fundraising records that Obama has shattered.
http://tinyurl.com/6dtgq6

Posted by: James | May 2, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

JakeD: I hope U and others will read "The Fix" Blog on 3 Jan. 2008 "Three questions for the Caucuses". I think U will find how ACCURATE I was at that time and am even more ACCURATE at the present time. My 60+ [Sixty]years in the political arena gives me a little more perspective than U younger folks [Bragging]. I have never seen anything similar here in the US, but the closest I could even image was Adolph Hitler in the late 20s and early 30s, and NO WAY I am comparing Obama to Hitler, only the support as if they were some way under hypnosis. I just cannot understand why his supporters think he can do no wrong and believe everything he says when time and time again he has been PROVEN to be a LIAR and a FRAUD.

Posted by: lylepink | May 2, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

I learned a great deal by working on the Clinton/Gore Campaign in 1992, going door to door in New Hampshire and making phone calls on behalf of the campaign. But my real education came in the years following 1992 when I observed how good people were thrown under a bus, continual moral lapses, self inflicted scandals were rationalized and the Whitehouse was sold to raise funds. The Clintons became very proficient at getting powerful people to part with their money. Clinton is in fact quoted in a Moyer's PBS special where he tells fat cats that their money buys influence.

"Washington's Other Scandal" with Bill Moyers
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/scandal/etc/script.html

excerpted transcript:
BILL MOYERS: In 1996, a "For Sale" sign was hung on the White House.
Pres. BILL CLINTON: [to contributors] And I think it's okay if your investment gets you influence, but your investment shouldn't get you control.

Hearing this verbage alone is all you need to know. Since that time the LIES, DECEIT, VOTER FRAUD & MANIPULATION have grown increasingly similar to the NEOCONS who stole the election in 2000. Hillary is running a campaign out of the Karl Rove/Lee Atwater/Jessie Helms playbook: scare the hell out of white working class voters. Clinton's wealth in the years immediately preceding her presidential run, wealth derived largely from foreign sources, has sky rocketed. So this begs the question, who owns the Clintons? Make no mistake, once you stop drinking the kool-aid it is rather easy to see that if ever there were "ELITISTS" in the Democratic Party, they are the Clintons. The politics of "TRIANGULATION" which they mastered is the art of appealing to and manipulating to the uninformed, the intellectually undernourished, the lower middle class and whatever ethnic minorities that they need as part of winning coalition while winking to the powerful that they have the little people under control. Hillary Clinton's Campaign has made aggressive, racist appeals to frighten those on the left side of the bell curve, the working class etc. This is at the heart of CLINTON FRAUD...they think all the little people are Dumb sh_ts that can be easily duped. The Clintons are financed heavily by foreign elements who paid for the Clinton Presidential Library, donated to the Clinton Global Initiative, pumped funds into Hillary''s Senate run and this presidential race where they are trying to buy the next Clinton Administration. The essential fraud of the Clintons is that they are the furthest thing from middle class warriors. The CLINTONS ARE WORKING CLASS PREDATORS. The people most easily fooled by their rhetoric are too consumed with their own economic survival to verify the accuracy of what they are told. BOTOX, BLUE CONTACT LENSES, BLONDE HAIR DYE are part of Hillary''s carefully crafted All American persona to manipulate voters into thinking that she is "one of you"---the last white lady standing.

Posted by: Christopher London, Esq. New York City | May 2, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

I feel sorry for all these idiots who go blind for Obama. What has he accomplished? Why is he even running for President? If he could run for President, I can think of 10,000 other people who will be much more qualified.

Posted by: Hillary 08 | May 2, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who isn't supporting Hillary is a racist. I wonder why the news media hasn't said anything about the fact that many blacks are racist. Why no one has said why 90 or more percent of blacks are voting for Obama? Isn't this racism too? Voting for someone because he happens to be black?

For sure I and all my friends will go Mccain if Hillary doesn't get the nomination.

Oh.. I'm not white. And I don't live anywhere in the South. So don't even go there.

Hillary 08!!!

Posted by: Hillary 08 | May 2, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

"The new letter pointed to Clinton's victories in some of the nation's biggest states as evidence of her broad appeal and said she has demonstrated the kind of support critical to winning a general election."


Not surprised to hear Clinton supporters use this deceptive argument. They are liars by nature.

Obama will do just fine among Democrats in Ohio and PA when he's running against a Republican.
This particular argument is designed to appeal to the most foolhardy and gullible of voters (it works too). More Rove tactics, of course.

Posted by: captainkona | May 2, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Fred | May 2, 2008 9:17 PM

I do not support Obama. I oppose Clinton and McCain. I oppose also the kind of campaign the Clintons and the press are running and the rot I read in blogs like this. Likely I will vote Libertarian or Green Party (my choice depending on who are the presidency candidates of those two Parties).

Posted by: loup-bouc | May 2, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a cunning and terrifyingly dangerous politician.

Barack says he won't throw his pastor under the bus like he did his grandmother, and then he did.

Barack says he won't wear "that pin" on his clothing but then he is trying to say that he stands for it (when really he wants to switch it to something else).

Barack says he wants to be the #1 patriot in America and yet when the National Anthem is played, he doesn't put his hand on his heart(as if the song doesn't apply to him) - must be because it is the song of the "old ways" of America(which he wishes to destroy), the ways that hundreds of thousands have died for along the way.

Barack boils up some cursing and completely politically-reactive racial speech, tries to make us all feel deficient, says Don Imus should be burned at the stake and flushed in a toilet, and then turns around and says "Race is not a problem in America"(because that would trick people into thinking he doesn't hate).

Barack says he's a uniter but then devotes 20 years of his life to his "Mentor" and "Role Model" that has burned the very hate of America into his heart - see this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI77cU3jsFs ( also see more great stuff at: thatsmeontheleft.blogspot.com )

Barack says all people should count and "yes we can" but then he purposely, and cold-bloodedly stone-walls any chance of allowing 2+ MILLION voters in Florida and Michigan have their vote count.

Barack says he's about "helping the working class live better lives" and then he turns around and slanders us not only by calling us "bitter" and "clinging to guns and religion", but also forgoes offering a Universal Healthcare Plan(which is a core democratic value) - this is only so he can play both sides of the poor/rich fence, but in the end he leans more towards the former(with his ridiculous idea to raise capital gains taxes).

Barack says he has all these ideas for how he's going to throw our government out of their offices onto the street but there's no detailed information available for people to weigh his intentions with common sense.

Everything is about timing for Mr. Barack Obama, he plays "old style" politics better than a symphonic orchestra, he'll switch from one major idea and then to the reverse like a windsock in an open field.

How long will it be before Barack throws the "American People"(as if we're somebody else) under the bus, and then back up for another go.

Think long and hard, this man is playing the emotion card on America, and he intends to rip our heart out with it to pay back for his Pastor's pain of yesteryear.

If you vote for Barack Obama, you will experience change alright, and it will hurt, badly. If you vote for Barack Obama, you are voting for the Apocalypse of America.

Posted by: The Stark Truth | May 2, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

To James:

I confess an error. You did not write "doe." I mistyped it. See loup-bouc | May 2, 2008 9:29 PM. You wrote "due."

Sorry.

Posted by: loup-bouc | May 2, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

I know our party has never been particuliarly ballsy but how can an entire party let two people hold them hostage. We know everyone who's educated and fully engaged is supporting Obama. Clinton wins with under educated idiots who are voting on raceial tensions she and her husband flared up. Clinton is so terrible I will happily leave the party if they let these terrible people continue to be the tyrants that they are.

Posted by: TJ | May 2, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

loup-bouc: I am sad for you, but I must get something to eat. Before I go, I would recommend that you buy the book for yourself, and you will see for yourself the nature of black liberation theology. Also, you can Google come of the quotes in my earlier post. I wish you well, and I must go.

Posted by: James | May 2, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

James | May 2, 2008 9:09 PM

[I am re-posting this, because when I posted it before, I forgot to include my tag (loup-bouc).]

Your first sentence is: "With all due respect, this conversation is getting nowhere." "With all doe respect" is a dangling prepositional phrase.

You utter a libelous falsehood. I mean your statement "below are several quotes from James Cone about Obama's religion." I mean particularly your assertion that Obama's religion includes the garbage you say is James Cone's and Rev. Wright's religion. You have uttered the same libelous falsehood in two separate messages above.

Also, I must repeat: You misquote James Cone, and your falsification is critically important. See loup-bouc | May 2, 2008 8:57 PM. Like most libelers, you do not supply a citation (but tender a useless reference of James Cone's entire book). If you offered such a reference in a legal brief, a proper judge would disregard, even strike, whatever point depended upon the reference.

If you are not already a member of Clinton's campaign team, I suggest you offer your service to Clinton. You deserve each other.

Posted by: loup-bouc | May 2, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

James | May 2, 2008 9:09 PM

Your first sentence is: "With all due respect, this conversation is getting nowhere." "With all doe respect" is a dangling prepositional phrase. And "doe" is wrong diction or a mis-spelling.

You utter a libelous falsehood. I mean your statement "below are several quotes from James Cone about Obama's religion." I mean particularly your assertion that Obama's religion includes the garbage you say is James Cone's and Rev. Wright's religion. You have uttered the same libelous falsehood in two separate messages above.

Also, I must repeat: You misquote James Cone, and your falsification is critically important. See loup-bouc | May 2, 2008 8:57 PM. Like most libelers, you do not supply a citation (but tender a useless reference of James Cone's entire book). If you offered such a reference in a legal brief, a proper judge would disregard, even strike, whatever point depended upon the reference.

If you are not already a member of Clinton's campaign team, I suggest you offer your service to Clinton. You deserve each other.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Fred: I applaud your last comment. Whether we agree on our choice of candidates or not, we can at least be civil to each other. After all, I believe that most people who support either Clinton or Obama are essentially similar on the issues; just not on our choice of who we support as the Democratic nominee.

Posted by: James | May 2, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

To quote Mick Jagger at Altamont, "People, people, why are we fighting?"
Loup-Bouc, I support Obama as do you - apparently. But whay the personal atacks on Clinton supporters? And over something as silly as sentence structure?
I'm fairly sure that Obama will get the nomination. But, when he does, we Dems will all have to unite behind him if he is to win in November. Name calling will not promote reconciliation.

Posted by: Fred | May 2, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

loup-bouc: I just read your latest posts. My, you're an angry person. I feel sad for you. As to your continuing insults; you should know that insults are not arguments; they are the last refuge of someone who wishes to avoid addressing the real issues. If you and I are to discuss anything further, why don't we agree to stop the petty back-and-forth, and stop the insults. If you can agree to that, I'd be happy to discuss this matter further. If not, then I really need to have dinner. It's going on 6:30 p.m. here.

Posted by: James | May 2, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, lylepink.

Posted by: JakeD | May 2, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Some valid questions about Jewish influence: to what degree do these people have allegiance to the Jewish victimology tradition, by extension to what degree do they hold dear the state of Israel and/or other Judeocentric interests within their respective organization's policy? Also, to what degree do they reflect a "Jewish view of the world," so popularly declared as something very real in Jewish circles -- particularly in deconstructing and/or subverting the non-Jewish social, cultural, and political order? To what extent are these people activists in such public policy socialization processes, sensitizing the public to Jewish interests and concerns?
CULTURAL / ETHNIC
NAACP (and other African-American organizations)
NAACP Legal Defense Fund,
"Co" - Chairman - Martin D. Payson
"Co" - Vice Chairman - Daniel L. Rabinowitz
"This Website was made possible through the generous support of the Paul and Phyllis Fireman Charitable Foundation."
Washington Kurdish Institute,
Executive Director: Mike Amitay -- reputed to be the son of former head of AIPAC (the massive Jewish American lobbying organization for Israel), Morris Amitay.
American Institute of Polish Culture,
Founder and President: Blanka A. Rosenstiel
Emperor's Clothes,
(ostensibly about Yugoslavia and the Balkans)
Editor: Jared Israel (apologist for Israel)
Asia Society,
Chairman of the Board: Maurice R. Greenberg (article: 2001)
Chairman of the Executive Committee: Richard C. Holbrooke
"To meet the increasing demand for greater awareness and understanding of Asia and its dynamic relationship with America, the Asia Society extensively renovated and expanded its world headquarters in New York City. The $30 million initiative substantially enhanced the Asia Society's museum galleries, as well as its public facilities and programs, and strengthened the Society's role as the only institution in North America addressing the intersection of the arts, economics, politics, and society throughout the Asia-Pacific region." This building is called The Maurice R. and Corinne P. Greenberg Building.
Committee for the Liberation of Iraq,
President: Randy Scheunemann (?)
"The president of the Committee is Randy Scheunemann, Trent Lott's former chief national-security adviser. Last year Scheunemann worked for Donald Rumsfeld as a consultant on Iraq policy ... The Committee is little more than an extension of the Project for a New American Century (PNAC), an 'educational' organization packed with neocons such as William Kristol and Robert Kagan."
Open Society Institute,
Founder/Billionaire Moneybags: George Soros
U.S. Committee for a Free Lebanon,
"Golden Circle" members include: Elliot Abrams, Salo Aizenberg, Eleana Benador, David Chazen, Alain Gabriel Courtines, Rachel Ehrenfeld, Michael Eisenstadt, Eliot Engel, Philip Epstein, Gil Feiler, Douglas Feith, Leonard Getz, Richard Greenfield, Richard Hellmann, Irwin Hochberg, Michael Ledeen, Matthew Levitt, Daniel Lubetzky, Richard Perle, Daniel Pipes, Scott Rosenblum, Nina Rosenwald, Michael Rubin, Eric Silverman, David Steinmann, Jonathan Usher, Stanley Weiss, David Wurmser
Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund (MALDEF),
President: Antonia Hernandez (married to Michael Stern)
Chairman of the board: Joseph A. Stern
Foundation for Ethnic Understanding,
Founder and President: Rabbi Mark Schneier
Coalition for Democracy in Iran,
"Supporter": Michael Ledeen
The Burma Project,
a division of the billionaire George Soros empire
American Himalayan Foundation,
Chairman: Richard Blum, husband of Senator Dianne Feinstein
Member of Board of Directors: Leon J. Weil, Ambassador to Nepal
Maltese-Czech Society,
President: Lawrence Attard Bezzina
Asian American Hotel Owners Association, [hotel owners from India]
President: Fred Schwartz
Central Asia Institute,
President: Julia Bergman
Public Relations Director: Susan Neubauer
Inter-American Economic Council,
President & CEO: Barry Featherman
"BKSH is the name of leading-edge government relations consultancy for the 21st century. Created by the world's largest communications agency, Burson-Marsteller, it enables clients to mount US, pan-European and transatlantic campaigns."
Managing Director: K. Riva Levinson
"Ms. Levinson has been the U.S. representative for the Iraqi National Congress (INC) since 1999. This group, funded by the United States State Department, will form the nucleus of the new democratic Iraqi Government. For four years, Ms. Levinson managed the INC's communications initiatives as the voice of the Iraqi people in exile. Since the country's liberation, Ms. Levinson has worked with the INC at its headquarters in Baghdad to conduct programs to support democracy and the building of civil society. Beyond Iraq, Ms. Levinson runs a number of projects to build democracy around the world, including managing the Coalition for Democracy in Iran and supporting the Liberian opposition parties."
Alliance of Latinos and Jews,
Co-chairs: Bradley Schneider, Bertha G. Magana
American-Russian Chamber of Commerce & Industry, Founder and President: Helen Teplitskaia [Teplitsky? Jewish?]
Institute of the Americas,
President: Jeffrey Davidow
Foundation for the People of Burma,
President and CEO: Harold C. Nathan (?)
New York Board for New Americans,
Board of Directors: Paul R. Alter, Phyllis Putter Barasch (?), Arthur Chernick, Charles M. Chernick, Ellen E. Conovitz, Rabbi Joel S. Goor, Debby Israel, Saul Kagan, Stanley I. Kivort (?), Bobi Klotz (?), Michael Loeb, Jeffrey M. Loewy, Kenneth Mazer, Elaine Pohl Moore (?), Rekha Nambiar (?), Terry Savage (?),
Melissa A. Schimke (?), Margaret Dunn Tan.
Polish-American-Jewish Alliance for Youth Understanding,
President: Dennis Misler

Center for Islamic Pluralism,
Executive director: Stephen Schwartz


"HATE," GENOCIDE, ETC.

A List of "Anti-Hate" organizations
(includes some overtly Jewish groups)
Institute for the Study of Genocide,
Executive Director: Helen Fein
International Commission to Investigate the Crimes of Nazi and Soviet Occupation Regimes in Lithuania,
Chairman: Emanuelis Zingeris, also chairman of the Lithuanian Parliamentary Committee on Human Rights.
American Anti-Slavery Group,
Founder and CEO: Charles Jacobs
[Contributor's note: "This is an another Jewish-concocted civil rights organization. No criticism of Israel allowed here."] [Israel is a leader in the sex slavery racket.] Jacobs has written a pro-Israel apologetic entitled: Why Israel, and not Sudan, is Singled Out: "How is it that there is not storm of indignation at Amnesty Interantional or Human Rights Watch, though, which they rushed to Jenin to investigate false reports of Jews massacring Arabs, care so much about Arab-occupied Juba, South Sudan's black capital?"

Coalition Against Terrorist Media,
Executive Director: Avi Jorisch


POLITICS
America First Party,
Chairman: Dan Charles (Recently became "Chairman Emeritus")
"[The] Reform Party as a whole is in big trouble these days ... Earlier this year, several national executive committee members resigned, along with the leaders of 18 state chapters that decided to disaffiliate from the national organization and launch a new group, the America First Party (AFP). Based in Boulder, Colo., the upstart AFP is headed by Dan Charles, a Jewish right-wing activist previously aligned with the Reform Party."
FrontPage magazine,
Founder/editor: David Horowitz (former far Left political activist, now a conservative apologist for Israel and Judeocentrism)
National Endowment for Democracy,
President: Carl Gershman
Heritage Foundation,
President: Edwin Feulner
(Likely Jewish. Married to Linda Claire Leventhal and author of Hate is Hate).

Center for the Study of Compassionate Conservatism,
Member of Board of Directors: Marvin Olasky
Center for Middle East Peace and Economic Cooperation,
Chairman: S. Daniel Abraham (avid pro-Israel acitivist)
Center for the Study of Popular Culture,
co-founder: David Horowitz
Carnegie Council on Ethics and International Affairs,
President: Joel Rosenthal
Hudson Institute,
Founder (deceased): Herman Kahn
President: Herbert I. London (Winner of the 2001 American Jewish Congress Award)
Chairman of the Board: Walter P. Stern
Vice President and Director: Kenneth R. Weinstein ("Prior to rejoining Hudson, Weinstein was the managing director of the Shalem Center, an educational and research institute with offices in Jerusalem and Washington, D.C.")
Manhattan Institute for Policy Studies,
President: Lawrence J. Mone
People for the American Way,
Founder: television director Norman Lear
The Center for Libertarian Studies (venerates Murray Rothbard),
Founder: Burton S. Blumert
Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty,
Executive Director: Thomas A. Dine
Dine "headed the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) from 1980 through June 1993."
Middle East Forum,
Executive Committee Chairman: Irwin Hochberg
"The Middle East Forum, a think tank, works to define and promote American interests in the Middle East ... In particular, it believes in strong ties with Israel, Turkey, and other democracies as they emerge; works for human rights throughout the region; strives to weaken the forces of religious radicals; seeks a stable supply and a low price of oil; and promotes the peaceful settlement of regional and international disputes ... Toward this end, the Forum seeks to help shape the intellectual climate in which U.S. foreign policy is made by addressing key issues in a timely and accessible way for a sophisticated public."
The Conservative Caucus,
Chairman: Howard Phillips
"Constitution Party & Independent American Party Presidential Nominee ... Born February 6, 1941 in Boston, Massachusetts. Married to Peggy Phillips. Six children, eight grandchildren. Evangelical Protestant (Jewish by birth, later converted in adulthood to Christianity)."
The Mitre organization,
Chairman of the Board: James Schlesinger
"MITRE is a not-for-profit national resource that provides systems engineering, research and development, and information technology support to the government. It operates federally funded research and development centers for the DOD, the FAA, and the IRS."
Aspen Institute,
Chairman: William E. Mayer (Jewish?)
Vice Chairman: Lester Crown
(Jewish Aspen officials include everyone from Henry Kissinger to Madeline Albright).
Project for a New American Century,
Chairman: William Kristol
Institute for Policy Studies,
Founder/funder: Samuel Rubin
"Cora Weiss, nee Cora Rubin, daughter of Samuel Rubin. She was a director of the Samuel Rubin Foundation from its inception. She was also instrumental in the funding decision to create the Institute for Policy Studies. Her husband, Peter Weiss, was the first IPS chairman of the board of directors. She and her husband Peter selected Marcus Raskin and Richard Barnet as co-directors of the Institute for Policy Studies."
World Affairs Council,
Chair: Bill Grinstein
Center for the Research on Military Organization,
Director: David R. Segal

Term Limits,
President: Howard Rich
Council on Foreign Relations,
President: Leslie Gelb (Succeeded by Richard N. Haass, also Jewish)
Vice President: Abraham Lowenthal
Center for Policy Alternatives,
Board Secretary: Miles Rapoport
Drug Policy Alliance,
Executive Director: Ethan Nadelman
Education Policy Institute,
Chairman: Myron Lieberman
Ethics and Public Policy Center,
President: Hillel G. Fradkin

The Joan Shorenstein Center on the Press, Politics, and Public Policy, (Harvard U.)
"The Shorenstein Center was established with a generous gift from Walter H. and Phyllis J. Shorenstein, in memory of their daughter, Joan. Joan Shorenstein Barone is remembered by all who worked with her as one of the most dedicated professionals ever to enter the field of political journalism."
Miller Center of Public Affairs,
Executive Director: Philip Zelikow
"The Miller Center's mission is to study and inform the national and international policies of the United States, with a special emphasis on the American Presidency. We conduct primary historical research, hold public forums, document presidential oral history, award fellowships in American political development and organize commissions on important public policy issues."

9-11 Commission (National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States),
Executive Director: Philip Zelikow (see also above)
"January 27, 2003: Philip Zelikow, White Burkett Miller Professor of History and Director of the Miller Center of Public Affairs at the University of Virginia, has been appointed as the Executive Director of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, also known as the '9/11 Commission.'"
Ethics and Public Policy Center,
President: Hillel Fradkin
Center for Ethics and Public Policy,
President: Elliot Abrams
SITE Institute-The Search for International Terrorist Entities,
Director: Rita Katz
The Federalist Society (for law and public policy studies),
President: Eugene B. Meyer (Jewish?)
Executive Vice President: Leonard A Leo (Jewish?)
Social Democrats,
"The Social Democrats, USA (SD/USA) has its political roots in the Socialist Party. Its philosophical forefather was the intellectual Trotskyite, Max Shactman. Shactman, initially a Communist, became increasingly disenchanted with the actions of the Soviet Union under Stalin and developed a new genre of antiStalinist leftists. This group joined the Socialist party of Eugene Debs and Norman Thomas in the 1960s. (2) It was in this period that the SD/USA made its commitment to, and its first inroads into the organized labor movement. In 1972, the Socialist Party split into two factions; the left led by Michael Harrington and the right or conservative wing led by Tom Kahn, Rachelle Horowitz, and Carl Gershman. (2) The latter became the SD/USA."
Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare,
Director: Yossef Bodansky
"Yossef Bodansky is the Director of Research of the International Strategic Studies Association, and is also the Director of the Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare of the US House of Representatives. He is also a Senior Editor for the Defense and Foreign Affairs group of publications. He is the author of five books (Target America, Terror, Crisis in Korea, Offensive in the Balkans, and Some Call it Peace) ..."
Partnership for America's Families,
Director: Steve Rosenthal
"A bitter split within organized labor over control of $20 million earmarked for mobilizing voters is threatening to fracture a broader effort by liberal groups to ally themselves against President Bush's reelection bid in 2004. The dispute involves the new Partnership for America's Families, a political committee financed with $20 million from unions and as much as $10 million from individual, pro-Democratic donors. The partnership's executive director, Steve Rosenthal, former political director of the AFL-CIO, is pitted against Gerald W. McEntee, president of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees. Also at odds with Rosenthal are leaders of black and Hispanic labor organizations affiliated with the AFL-CIO."
Draft Al Gore, [defunct web site]
Chairman: Monica Friedlander
Center for American Progress,
Senior Vice President: Morton H. Halperin
Democracy 21,
President: Fred Wertheimer,
"promotes changes in campaign finance,"
(Important contributor: Geoge Soros)
Bush/Cheney 2004,
Campaign Manager: Ken Mehlman
National Democratic Institute For International Affairs,
Chairman: Madeleine K. Albright
Vice Chairman: Rachelle Horowitz
President: Kenneth D. Wollack
[Contributor's note: This organization "specializes in setting up puppet governments."]
Green Party of the United States,
(Five "Co-Chairs" and one "Alternate")
Co-Chair: Ben Manski
Co-Chair: Marnie Glickman
Alternate: Alan Kobrain (Jewish?)
Treasurer: Jake Schneider
Harvard University Institute of Politics,
Director: Dan Glickman
(Note: Glickman was the Secretary of Agriculture under President Clinton, at the same time now Harvard president Larry Summers was serving as Secretary of the Treasury.)
Oxford Democracy Forum, [Oxford University]
All four members of the OxDem executive board are as follows:
President: Josh Chafetz
Communications Officer: Stephen Sachs
Programs Officer: Josh Cherniss
Member-at-Large: David Adesnik
[OxDem's Internet "blog."]
Selective Service System,
Acting Director: Lewis C. Brodsky (retired 2004)
Center on Budget and Policy Priorities,
Executive Director: Robert Greenstein
Deputy Director: Iris Lav
Associate Director: Susan Steinmetz
Senior Fellow: Isaac Shapiro
American Center for Democracy,
Director: Rachel Ehrenfeld (author of Funding Evil; How Terrorism is Financed -- and How to Stop It)
moveon.org,
Executive Dirctor: Eli Pariser

MASS MEDIA

Fairness and Accuracy in Media (FAIR),
Executive Director: Jeff Cohen

Paul Revere Society,
The PRS apparently IS Michael Savage (born Michael Weiner). Conservative talk-show host and apologist for Israel.
Association of American Publishers,
Chairman of the Board of Directors: Jane Friedman
(Friedman is President and CEO of HarperCollins Publishers).
Screen Actors Guild,
President: Melissa Gilbert
"Other Jewish performers in the cast [of the play "The Education of Max Bickford"] include Jill Clayburgh and Sara Gilbert. Gilbert, 27, is best known for her youthful role as Roseanne's youngest daughter on the "Roseanne" television series. Her sister, MELISSA GILBERT, 38, was the former child star of "Little House on the Prairie" and many TV movies. Melissa was elected president of the Screen Actors' Guild late last year." -- Jewish Bulletin
American Film Institute,
Director and CEO: Jean Picker Firstenberg (Jewish?)
Recording Industry Association of America,
Prior Chairman and CEO: Hilary Rosen
New Chairman and CEO: Mitch Bainwol (formerly a Jewish Republican Party official)
President: Cary Sherman
National Association of Recording Merchandisers,
"The Voice of Music Retailing"
President: Pamela Horovitz
Chairman: David Schlang (Jewish?)
National Film Board of Canada, (government subsidies for independent filmmakers) Commissioner and Chairperson: Jacques Bensimon
Arbitron, (media research)
President and CEO: Stephen B. Morris
(non-executive) Chairman: Lawrence Perlman

The Media Coalition, Inc.,
Executive Director: David Horowitz
The Media Access Project,
President and CEO: Andrew Jay Schwartzman
Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (Canada's BBC),
President and CEO: Robert Rabinovitch

Canadian Museum of Civilization,
President and CEO: Victor Rabinovitch (brother of Robert - see above)
"Their [the Rabinovitch brothers] appointments, the apex of careers built largely in the federal civil service, were 'a source of naches [pride] for the entire Jewish community,'' said Irving Abella, a Toronto historian and former president of the Canadian Jewish Congress. 'They are energetic and dedicated, and never tried to hide their Jewish background.'"
Center for Media and Public Affairs,
President: S. Robert Lichter
Vice President: Linda Lichter
Association of Alternative Newsweeklies,
Executive Director: Richard Karpel
Project for Excellence in Journalism/Committee of Concerned Journalists,
Director (and Vice Chairman of CCJ) -- Tom Rosenstiel
Chairman of CCJ -- Bill Kovach (Jewish?)
Directors Guild of America,
President: Michael Apted
National Vice-President: Edwin Sherin
National Executive Director: Jay D. Roth
Associate National Executive Director: Warren Adler
(also: Presiding Officer,Western Directors
Council: Michael Apted Presiding Officer,
Eastern Directors Council: Edwin Sherin)
The Society of Professional Audio Recording Services,
President: Jeff Greenberg
President-Elect: Andrew Kautz
Treasurer: Doug Levine
Executive Director: Larry Lipman
Academy of Television Arts & Sciences ("Emmy" awards),
Chairman & CEO: Dick Askin
Academy of Television Arts & Sciences Foundation,
Chairman & CEO: Tom Sarnoff
Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences (AMPAS), ("Academy Awards")
A) AMPAS Board of Governors:
First Vice President: Sid Ganis
Vice President: Gilbert Cates
Executive Director: Bruce Davis (Jewish?)
B) AMPAS Administration:
Executive Director: Bruce Davis (Jewish?)
C) AMPAS Foundation Board of Trustees:
President: Fay Kanin
Vice President (1 of 2): Charles Bernstein
Executive Secretary: Bruce Davis (Jewish?)
Secretary: Sid Ganis
( Note: Fay Kanin is also Executive Committee Chair AMPAS Writers Branch)

"Tony" awards are presented by the following two organizations:
1) The League of American Theatres and Producers (LATP),
Chairman: Gerald Schoenfeld
President: Jed Bernstein
2) The American Theatre Wing (ATW),
Executive Director: Howard Sherman
National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences (NARAS),"The Recording Academy" ("Grammy" Awards),
President & CEO: Neil Portnow
General Council: Joel A. Katz
Songwriters Guild of America (SGA),
Executive Director: Lewis Bachman
National Projects Director: George Wurzbach (Jewish?)
Executive Vice President: Richard Adler
Second Executive Vice President: George David Weiss
First Vice President: Ervin Drake (Jewish?)
Dramatists Guild of America, Inc.,
President: John Weidman (Jewish?) (Note:novelist and playright Jerome Weidman wrote "I can Get it for You Wholesale", which starred Barbara Streisand when it played on Broadway.)
Secretary: Arthur Kopit (Jewish surname)
Motion Picture Association of America,
(i.e., the frontman for Hollywood)
President: Dan Glickman
American Cinema Editors,
President: Alan Heim
National Cable and Telecommunications Association,
President and CEO: Robert Sachs

Online News Association,
President: Ruth Gersh, Director of Online Services, AP Digital
Vice President: Michael Silberman, Managing Editor, East Coast, MSNBC.com
Secretary: Jonathan Dube Jonathan Dube Jonathan Dube (Jewish?), Managing Producer, MSNBC.com

LAW, RIGHTS GROUPS
American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU)
President: Nadine Strossen
Judicial Watch,
Chairman: Larry Klayman (a Jewish convert to Christianity)

Lawyers Committee for Human Rights,
(strong interest in fighting antisemitism)
Executive Director: Michael Posner
Human Rights Watch,
Executive Director: Kenneth Roth
American Center for Law & Justice (ACLJ),
Chief Council: Jay Alan Sekulow
He also operates: The Slavic Center for Law and Justice (SCLJ), along with SCLJ co-founder Vladimir Ryakhovskiy (Jewish?)
and also The European Center for Law and Justice (ECLJ)
Note: The "Jay Sekulow Live!" daily radio show is co-hosted by Gene Kapp.
National Lawyers Guild,
President: Bruce Nestor (Jewish surname)
President-Elect: Michael Avery (Jewish surname)
Executive Vice President: Marjorie Cohn
Child Welfare League of America,
President and CEO: Shay Bilchik
"Cardinal McCarrick announced July 11 that a Child Protection Advisory Board with experts from related fields has been formed to review and strengthen the Archdiocese of Washington's policies and procedures on preventing and dealing with cases of child abuse. The chairman of the nine-member board, Shay Bilchik, is the president and CEO of the Child Welfare League of America ... 'Every child as a birthright is entitled to nurturance and protection,' said Bilchik, whose Child Welfare League is the nation's oldest and largest association of agencies that directly help abused, neglected, abandoned and other vulnerable children and their families. The board chairman, who is Jewish, said members would examine archdiocesan policies, help the local Catholic Church in 'confronting and preventing the tragedy of child sexual abuse,' and determine if there are 'more effective methods for protecting children, for whom the Church is a spiritual home.'"
Southern Poverty Law Center,
CEO: Joe Levin
Bazelon Center for Mental Health Law,
Executive Director: Robert Bernstein
Center for Equal Opportunity,
President: Linda Chavez
"She met her husband, Christopher Gersten, while attending the University of Colorado. Gersten, who is Jewish, heads the Institute for Religious Values."
Center for Law and Social Policy,
Chair: Joe Onek
"Berkowitz: I see also that you worked on the Hill at one point? Onek: I'd worked on the Hill for Kennedy but not on health issues particularly. Berkowitz: And Mondale was not a rabbi? Onek: No, I knew Mondale because I'd worked on the Hill, but I had no ties."
"The Center for Law and Social Policy (CLASP) was founded in 1968 by Charles Halpern and three other lawyers, with the assistance of Justice Arthur Goldberg."
Second Amendment Foundation,
Founder -- Alan M. Gottlieb
Citizens Commission on Human Rights (CCHR),
President (U.S.): Bruce Wiseman
Note: CCHR was founded in 1969 by the Church of Scientology
Center for Constitutional Rights,
President: Michael Ratner
Center for Justice & Democracy,
Executive Director: Joanne Doroshow (Jewish?)
Deputy Director: Emily Gottlieb
National Women's Law Center,
Co-President (1of 2): Marcia D.Greenberger
Vice President, Legal programs: Judith Appelbaum
Vice President, Family Economic Security: Joan Entmacher
Vice President, Communications: Margot Friedman
Vice President, Health and Reproductive Rights: Judy Waxman
Center for First Amendment Rights,
President and co-founder: Ethel Silver Sorokin
Student Press Law Center,
Executive Director: Mark Goodman

Amnesty International,
Founder: Peter Benenson


UNIONS, OCCUPATION ORGANIZATIONS, ACADEMIA, ETC.
American Library Association,
President: Maurice Freedman (through June 2003)
American Federation of Teachers,
President: Sandra Feldman
Service Employees International Union (SEIU)
President: Andrew L. Stern
Communication Workers of America (AFL-CIO),
President: Morton Bahr (also President of the Jewish Labor Committee)
Executive Vice-President: Larry Cohen
(Note: Barbara Easterling (Jewish?) is this group's Secretary-Treasurer and also
co-Chairman of the Labor Advisory Board for State of Israel Bonds).
Unite,
President: Bruce Raynor (Jewish surname)
Raynor succeeded Jay Mazur in July 2001. "A new chapter in the history of the U.S. labor movement began in 1995 with the founding of UNITE (Union of Needletrades, Industrial and Textile Employees). The new union was formed by the merger of two of the nation's oldest unions, the International Ladies' Garment Workers' Union (ILGWU) and the Amalgamated Clothing and Textile Workers Union (ACTWU)."
Per Jay Mazur: He is noted as an official of one of "53 member organizations of major American Jewish organizations that seeks to strengthen the U.S.-Israel Alliance, and to protect and advance the security and dignity of Jews abroad." Mazur is here noted as a representative for the National Committee for Labor Israel.
The Newspaper Guild, (union - part of Communication Workers of America)
International Chairperson: Carol Rothman
American Association for the Advancement of Science,
CEO, and Executive Publisher of "Science" magazine: Alan Leshner.
Chairman of the Board: Floyd E. Bloom (Jewish?)
Director of science & policy programs: Albert H. Teich (Jewish?)
Union of Concerned Scientists,
President: Howard Ris [Jewish?]
[Replaced by Kevin Knobloch (Jewish?) in 2003]
Chairman of the Board: Kurt Gottfried
Foundation for Individual Rights in Education,
Executive Director: Erich J.Wasserman
President and Co-Director: Alan Charles Kors
Co-Director: Harvey A. Silverglate
Institute of Medicine (National Academy for Science),
President: Harvey Fineberg
American Political Science Association,
President-Elect: Margaret Levi
Vice President: Ira Katznelson
Secretary: Judith Goldstein
American Psychological Association,
President: Robert J. Sternberg
International Association for Philosophy and Literature,
Executive Director: Hugh J. Silverman
National Association of Science Writers, Inc.
President: Deborah Blum
National Association of Social Workers,
President: Terry Mizrahi
Writers Guild of America, West
President: Victoria Riskin (also on the American Film Institute Board of Trustees)
("Welcome to the official Web site of the Writers Guild of America, west, a labor union that represents more than 8,500 professional writers who create your favorite films and television programs." Riskin serves to 2004.

Writers Guild of America, East,
President: Herb Sargent (Jewish?)

The Songwriters Guild of America,
Executive Director: Lewis Bachman

The American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers (ASCAP),
President and Chairman of the Board: Marilyn Bergman
(Recently deceased: Vice Chairman: Cy Coleman (formerly Seymour Kaufman)
Vice Chairman, Publisher Board: Jay Morganstern
Treasurer: Arnold Broido

Music Publishers Association of the United States,
President: Tom Broido
American Psychiatric Association,
President: Paul Appelbaum
"Dr. Appelbaum, a world-renowned psychiatrist, presented 'Religion and Psychiatry: An Orthodox Jewish Psychiatrist's Perspective' at the luncheon."
Institute of Industrial Engineers,
President: Jeremy Weinstein
Middle East Studies Association (MESA),
(Previous) President: Joel Beinin
The American Educational Research Association (AERA),
Executive Director: Felice J. Levine
American Sociological Association,
President: William T. Bielby
"Bill's non-observant Jewish mother worked in a shoe store at the Palmer House and then with her husband in the store."
American Society of Magazine Editors (ASME)
[a division of Magazine Publishers of America]
Executive Director: Marlene Kahan

American Sportscasters Association,
President: Lou Schwartz

Committee to Protect Journalists,
Chairman of the Board: David Laventhol
Executive Director: Ann Cooper (Jewish?)
PSRC,
Chairman: Howard B. Goldstein
"The PSRC of America is an organization of physicians, nurses, administrators, allied health care professionals, and data analysts providing services to promote quality of care and the efficient management of health care resources in managed care and traditional settings."
American Orthopsychiatric Association,
Executive Director - Lisa Shuger Hublitz
President - Oscar Barbarin
President Elect - Gary Melton (Jewish?)
Institute of International Education,
President & CEO: Allan E. Goodman
Farmworker Justice Fund,
Co-Executive Director: Bruce Goldstein
Co-Executive Director: Shelley Davis (Jewish?)
(Contributor's Note: According to their bio's, these two attorneys have no known farm or agricultural work experience.)
Association of American Medical Colleges,
President: Jordan J. Cohen, M.D.
Actors' Equity Association,
Executive Director: Alan Eisenberg
National Association of Television Program Executives (NATPE),
President & CEO: Rick Feldman
President of NATPE Educational Foundation: Lew Klein
(He's also a co-founder of NATPE).
World Medical. Association,
Chairman of the WMA council: Y. Blachar
"Physicians for Human Rights (Israel) have lambasted the Israeli Medical Association (IMA) for its silence in the face of these systematic violations of the Fourth Geneva Convention [against the Palestinian people], which guarantees the right to health care and the protection of health professionals as they do their duty. Remarkably, IMA president Dr Y Blachar is currently chairperson of the council of the World Medical Association (WMA), the official international watchdog on medical ethics. A supine BMA appears in collusion with this farce at the WMA." -- D. Summerfield, British Medical Journal, October 2004


IMMIGRATION
American Patrol,
Co-founder Shirley Lertzman
Federation for American Immigration Reform,
Executive Director: Dan Stein (Jewish citation here)
National Immigration Forum, (pro-immigration)
Chairman of the Board: Diana Aviv
Executive Director: Frank Sharry (Jewish?)

MONEY / BUSINESS
World Bank,
President: James D. Wolfensohn
Federal Reserve System,
Chairman: Alan Greenspan
Member, Board of Governors: : Ben Shalom Bernanke
Economic Policy Institute,
President: Larry Mishel (Mishel comes up on a web search as a Jewish surname)
Vice President: Ross Eisenbrey (Jewish?)
International Futures and Options Exchange,
CEO: Hugh Freedberg

The Chicago Board of Trade (CBOT),
Chairman: Nickolas J. Neubauer

New York Board of Trade,
Acting President, CEO, Chairman, and Chairman of the Board: Charles H. Falk
Vice Chairman of the Board: Frederick W. Schoenhut
American National Standards Institute (ANSI),
President and CEO: Mark W. Hurwitz
American Corn Growers Association,
CEO (in 2000): Gary Goldberg
"In February 2001, Goldberg was sentenced to five years probation for obtaining child pornography by mail. 'When the FBI and police knocked on his door, it was the end of Gary Goldberg, chief executive of the American Corn Growers Association,' The Tulsa World reported. 'Now and forever, it's Gary Goldberg, convicted sex offender.' Goldberg, who once rubbed elbows with senators and even visited President Clinton in the White House, now says: 'I'm a felon. They don't let felons in the Oval Office.' Goldberg's crime led to a very public resignation from his high-profile ACGA role. But the organization did not divorce itself of Goldberg entirely: he now serves as the Chief Executive Officer of the ACGA-linked American Corn Growers Foundation, where he remains in charge of fundraising and glad-handing the big-money foundations that keep ACGA afloat. Goldberg, a Tulsa corn grower, served as CEO of ACGA for three years and National President for five.
Electronic Retailing Association,
Chairman: Linda A. Goldstein
Gemological Institute of America,
President: Lee Berg

U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission,
(Previous) Chairman: Arthur Levitt
Secretary: Jonathan G. Katz
Commissioner: Cynthia A. Glassman
Commissioner: Harvey J. Goldschmid
Direct Marketing Association,
President: H. Robert Weintzen
Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments,
Chairman of the Board: Richard Danzig
"Recently [1999], Richard Danzig was appointed Secretary of the U.S. Navy. The appointment marks the very first time a member of the Jewish faith has reached the commander level of one of the American Armed Forces divisions. The office is second in rank only to the Secretary of Defense ... Observing that the prestigious appointment was duly noted within the Jewish community, I asked Danzig if he felt that his Judaism had played a significant role in his line of work. He pointed out that the structure of the military community is, in fact, quite similar to the Jewish community ... . Although his position as Secretary of the Navy is rare for a civilian officer, the military offers many jobs for civilians."
National Economic Council,
Chairman: Stephen Friedman
Turnaround Management Association,
Chairman: Randall S. Eisenberg
Penultimate Chairman: Melanie Rovner Cohen
American Council for Capital Formation,
President: Mark A. Bloomfield
Business Council for Sustainable Energy,
Chairman: Scott A. Wiener
Consumer Energy Council of America,
President: Ellen Berman

Consumers Union,
Director: Gene Kimmelman
Policy Analyst: Adam Goldberg
Interactive Digital Software Association (IDSA)
(Trade association for the computer videogames industry)
President: Douglas Loewenstein
Antitrust Institute,
President: Albert ("Bert") A. Foer
(Mr. Foer is apparently a member of the Adas Israel synagogue which implores its members: "Buy Israel. At this time, in particular, we should buy as many Israeli products as possible to support the state of Israel." Foer's wife is Esther and his young son, Jonathan Safran Foer, has made hundreds of thousands of dollars on his first novel, Everything Is Illuiminated. "Jonathan, son of Esther and Bert Foer, grew up in the synagogue." [p. 6]
American Society of Travel Agents,
President & CEO: Richard M.Copland (Jewish surname)
NASDAQ; Stock Market,
President & CEO: Robert Greifeld
Computer Systems Policy Project (CSPP),
Executive Director: Bruce P. Mehlman
"Chairman of the coalition" (as described in homepage description): Michael S. Dell
Chairman: Craig R. Barrett (Jewish?), also the CEO of Intel Corp.
[JTR contributor's note: "A coalition consisting of 8 computer company CEO's whose "project" is to help further destroy the hi-tech jobs base in America by replacing their domestic employees with cheap labor overseas. The CEO jobs are apparently exempt from this 'project'."]
Center for Economic and Policy Research,
Co-Director: Mark Weisbrot
National Association of Security Dealers,
Chairman & CEO: Robert R. Glauber (Jewish?)
Vice Chairman, President of NASD Regulatory Policy & Oversight: Mary L. Schapiro
International Federation of the Phonographic Industry,
Chairman & CEO: Jason Berman
Consumer Electronics Association (CEA),
Chair: Katherine Gornik
President & CEO: Gary Shapiro

Home Recording Rights Coalition (HRRC),
Chairman: Gary Shapiro (also Pres.& CEO of CEA)
General Council: Robert S. Schwartz
Mix Foundation for Excellence in Audio,
President: Hillel Resner
Financial Accounting Standards Board,
Chairman: Robert H. Herz

International Council of Forest and Paper Associations,
President: Avrim Lazar

ART

Art organizations
College Art Association,
President: Michael Aurbach
Campaign for Museums, (Great Britain)
Chairman: Loyd Grossman
Americans for the Arts,
Chairman of the Board: Steven D. Spiess (Jewish? "Spiess" comes up in a computer search as a possible Jewish surname)
Smithsonian Museum,
Secretary (head of the museum): Lawrence Small
[Small has served on the board of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Council and is "chairman of the Financial Advisory Committee of Trans-Resources International, the parent company of Haifa Chemical, an Israeli firm."]
National Endowment for the Humanities,
Chairman: Bruce Cole (Jewish? Originally Kohl?)


WOMEN / FAMILY / SEX / GENDER ISSUES
Planned Parenthood Federation of America,
President: Gloria Feldt
"At the tenth annual Power of One event, over 600 women gathered in San Francisco to celebrate their commitment to the Jewish Community Federation. They were inspired by messages from Jan Richer, Liki Abrams, and keynote speaker Gloria Feldt, President of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, who spoke eloquently about her Jewish roots, personal challenges and the importance of activism."
National Abortion Federation,
President and CEO: Vicki Saporta
(Jewish? Saporta is a Sephardic Jewish surname)
Feminists for Free Expression,
Founder: Marcia Pally
Vice President: Marilyn Fitterman
Secretary: Jayme Waxman
"Jamye Waxman is a writer, producer, performer, sex educator and outspoken advocate for women's sexual liberation. Jamye is currently pursuing her masters in human sexuality education and teaches sexuality classes at a well-know adult toyshop in downtown Manhattan. She is the Associate Producer of the television show Naked New York and a columnist for Playgirl Magazine. She produced 'Love Bytes' with Bob Berkowitz and hosted her own show 'Aural Fixation' on WSEX Radio."
Member of Board of Directors: Abby Ehmann
"Abby describes herself as a 'Sexpert' and 'New York's preeminent female smutmeister,' began a career in the adult entertainment industry as an Associate Editor at Penthouse Forum. She has also served as Consulting Editor of Masquerade Erotic Newsletter, Girls of Outlaw Biker and Erotica Online. She has written for many sex-oriented publications from Screw and Hustler to Forum and New Rave."
National Gay and Lesbian Task Force,
Co-Chair: Loren S. Ostrow
"Loren Ostrow ... is outgoing President of the Board of Congregation Kol Ami, a predominately gay and lesbian synagogue in West Hollywood, CA, and he previously served as Co-Chair of the L.A. Gay & Lesbian Center's Board of Directors."
Queer Nation,
Co-founder: Alan Klein
"Mr. Klein's involvement in social issues and civil rights work has been extensive. He was a founding member of the AIDS activist organization ACT UP and organized several of the group's most successful demonstrations. He also co-founded QUEER NATION ... In 1997, a year television critics will remember as the "Year of the Lesbian," Mr. Klein played a pivotal role in the international media frenzy that accompanied ELLEN DEGENERES' historic announcement. As National Communications Director and chief spokesperson for the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD), he orchestrated the media's Ellen coverage from day one. Mr. Klein also co-founded the successful multimedia campaign STOPDRLAURA.COM. Alan Klein most recently served as Communications Director for Rainbow25 ..."
Museum of Sex, (New York)
Executive Director and Founder: Daniel Gluck
Erotic Museum, (Los Angeles)
CEO: Boris Smorodinsky. "A desire to make a better life for his family, motivated by the discrimination he felt as a Jew in communist Russia, led Smorodinsky to immigrated to Los Angeles in 1989 ..."
Director: Marina Smorodinsky
National Partnership for Women and Families,
President: Judith Lichtman
Population Action International,
President: Amy Coen
National Coalition for Sexual Freedom,
Chairperson of the Board of Directors: Vivienne Kramer
(A Jewish "Vivienne Kramer" is noted here. The same one?)
Children's Defense Fund,
Founder and President: Marian Wright Edelman
(Married to Peter Edelman).
Women's Independent Forum,
Chairman: R. Gaull Silberman
National Center for Policy Research for Women & Families,
President: Diana Zuckerman
National Organization for Women Legal Defense and Education Fund (NOWLDEF),
Executive Vice-President, and Director of Family Initiative: Leslie J. Calman Vice-President, and Director of National Judicial Education Program: Lynn Hecht Schafran
Vice-President,and Director of Government Relations: Lisalyn Jacobs
Vice-Chairman of the Board: Stephen L. Hammerman

Equality Forum,
Executive Director: Malcolm Lazin
"Equality Forum presents the largest annual national and international gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender (GLBT) civil rights forum." "B.A.'s [Congregation Beth Ahavah's] own Malcolm Lazin was the featured speaker during a lively and musical service led by David Wise. Malcolm, [is] best known as the founder and executive director of Pridefest America, now Equality Forum ...

ENVIRONMENT

Voices in the Wilderness,
Prominent Activist: Bert Sacks
(Sacks is active against the planned invasion of Iraq. He has lived in Israel). [From a correspondent: Bert Sacks, an open Zionist, is one of the highest-profile activists in the Voices in the Wilderness, a group that has long protested sanctions on Iraq. The price of his participation, which is cherished because he is a self-described "saint", is complete silence by VITW (including by founder Kathy Kelly) on Israel (he is a former west bank settler and a dual-citizen), on Dual-Containment, and in the Israeli role in setting US policy on Iraq].
Alliance to Save Energy,
President: David M. Nemtzow
(Nemtsow: Jewish surname.)

OTHER THINK TANKS, ADVOCACY GROUPS, ETC.
The Center for the Advancement of Objectivism ("Ayn Rand Institute"),
(includes avid activism on behalf of Israel)
Chairman: Peter Schwartz
President and CEO: Yaron Brook

Georgia Rural Urban Summit,
founder: Daniel Levitas
(Levitas also is the former executive director of Atlanta's Center for Democratic Renewal)
American Humanist Organization, (largest American atheist organization)
President: Melvin Lipman
2002 "Humanist of theYear" - Steven Weinberg
2003 "Humanist of the Year" - Rabbi Sherwin T. Wine
Advocacy Institute,
Co-chair: David Cohen
Co-Chair Michael Pertschuk
Alzheimer's Association,
President and CEO: Sheldon Goldberg
National Coalition Against Censorship (NCAC)
Executive Director: Joan E. Bertin
Co-Chairman: Jeremiah S. Gutman
Alliance for Justice,
President: Nan Aron
Chairman of th Board: Jim Weill (Jewish?)

Council for a Livable World,
President: John Isaacs (Jewish?)
"John Isaacs has served as executive director and president of Council for a Livable World since 1991, headed the Washington office since 1981 and lobbied for the Council since 1978."
Nuclear Control Institute,
Founder: Paul Leventhal
"Paul Leventhal founded the Nuclear Control Institute in 1981 and served as its president for 21 years prior to his retirement in June 2002. Mr. Leventhal now serves as Advisor and President Emeritus. Prior to founding NCI, Mr. Leventhal held senior staff positions in the United States Senate on nuclear power and proliferation issues."
Institute for Popular and Reproductive Health (Bill Gates' foundation),
Director: Laurie Schwab Zabin
"In 1999, Zabin accepted the position of the Director of the Bill and Melinda Gates Institute for Population and Reproductive Health."
"It would be very hard for me to separate my whole moral compass from what I take from the history of the Jewish people." -- Zabin.
Nonprofit Watch,
Founder?: Bernardo Issel (Jewish?)
Free Kobe,
[web site found to profit off support of basketball star Kobe Bryant (accused of rape)]
Founders: Jeff Reichman and David Feingold
Fans launch "Free Kobe" Web site,
[sidebar to the article entitled: Kobe Submits DNA during hospital visit]
ESPN, July 10, 2003
"Californian Jeff Reichman and Boston-area resident David Feingold have created a campaign and a retail store at www.freekobe.com, where they are offering T-shirts, coffee cups and hats.
Violence Policy Center (VPC),
Executive Director: Josh Sugarman
Center for Individual Rights,
General Counsel (listed as #2 man behind the president): Michael E. Rosman
Director of Legal and Public Affairs (listed fourth): Curt A. Levey
The Urban Institute,
President: Robert D. Reischauer (Jewish?)
Chairman of the Board: Richard B. Fisher (Jewish?)
The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence/The Educational Fund to Stop Gun Violence,
Executive Director: Joshua Horwitz
Americans for Gun Safety,
Foundation President: Jonathan Cowan
JTR Contributer's Note:
A project of the Tsunami Fund,which is a lobbying arm of the
Tides Foundation.
Executive Director: David Salniker (Jewish?)
Note: The funding arm of Tides Foundation is the
Solidago Foundation.
Chairman: Joseph Rosenmiller
President & Executive Director: David Rosenmiller
Brady Campaign (to Prevent Gun Violence with the Million Mom March),
Chairman of the board: Phyllis N.Segal
[JTR contributor's note: "Her husband, business tycoon Eli Segal, is some bigtime supporter of the Democratic party."]
National Greyhound Adoption Program,
Director: David Wolf
Physicians for a National Health Program,
Co-Founders: Dr. David Himmelstein, Dr. Steffie Woolhandler
Executive Director: Dr. Ida Hellander (Jewish?)
Secretary: Dr. Steffie Woolhandler
Columbia Shuttle Memorial Trust,
Chairman: Richard Gelfond
Foundation for Health Coverage Education,
Executive Director: Philip Lebherz

Craft and Hobby Association,
CEO: Steve Berger

Foundations and Grant Organizations
The MacArthur Foundation,
President: Jonathan F. Fanton (Jewish surname)
Vice President: Joshua J. Mintz
V.P.& Secretary: Arthur M. Sussman

AT&T Foundation,
President: Esther Silver-Parker
Executive Director: Marilyn Reznick

Alfred P. Sloan Foundation,
President: Ralph E. Gomory (Jewish?)
Chairman: Harold T. Shapiro

Scripps Howard Foundation,
President & CEO: Judith G. Clabes (Jewish?)

J. Paul Getty Trust,
President & CEO: Barry Munitz
Chairman: David P. Gardner (Jewish?)
Vice Chairman: Lewis Bernard
Vice Chairman: Helene L. Kaplan
Doris Duke Charitable Foundation,
President: Joan Edelman Spero
Chief Financial Officer: Alan Altschuler

Carnegie Corporation,
Chairman: Helene L. Kaplan
Vice Chairman: Martin L. Leibowitz
Kaiser Family Foundation,
President & CEO: Drew E. Altman (Jewish?)
National Committee for Responsive Philanthropy,
Executive Director: Rick Cohen

UNIVERSITIES:
(Current or recent)
"Ronald Ehrenberg, the Irving M. Ives Professor of Industrial and Labor Relations and vice president for academic programs, planning and budgeting, drew mainly from his personal experiences and his background as a Jew to demonstrate the continued need for affirmative action programs ... . Six out of eight Ivy League universities in recent years have had Jewish presidents, Ehrenberg said."
"It's fascinating," observed President James O. Freedman in the February 11 Los Angeles Times, "that there was not a Jewish president of a major university -- with one or two exceptions -- until about 15 years ago. And then all of a sudden -- without notice -- there are Jewish presidents now at dozens of major institutions." Among all those presidents, however, Freedman remains among the most outspoken on Jewish issues in higher education. Through a series of public comments, notably his 1990 attack on the Dartmouth Review, Freedman has repeatedly used his ethnicity to make a name for himself in academic circles. The Los Angeles Times interview concerned his comments at the opening of the Roth Center for Jewish Life, in which he exposed Dartmouth's history of anti-Semitism."
Tufts University,
"Lawrence S. Bacow, recently installed as president of Tufts University, likes to say that the naming of a Jewish college president is hardly newsworthy anymore. After all, MIT named Jerry Weisner in 1970, and since then Jewish presidents have reigned at prestigious institutions from Dartmouth to Harvard, Penn to Princeton ... And, the new Tufts head boasts, every door of the President's mansion on the Medford campus now hosts a mezzuzah, while the kitchen has been koshered for his family's use. Bacow's strong commitment to Judaism and the Jewish community is clear from his positions as a director of the Jewish Community Housing for the Elderly and a trustee of Hebrew College, and his wife's role as a trustee of Temple Emmanuel in Newton. He believes it is important for American Jews to 'speak up on behalf of Israel and to show their support visibly,' yet he understands the complexities of the situation."
Harvard University,
President: Lawrence Summers (replaced Neil Rudenstine)
"I speak with you today not as President of the University but as a concerned member of our community about something that I never thought I would become seriously worried about -- the issue of anti-Semitism. I am Jewish, identified but hardly devout."
(More concern about anti-Semitism)
Yale University,
President: Richard L. Levin
Princeton University,
President: Harvey Shapiro (stepped down after 12 years, in 2001)

Dartmouth College,
President: James O. Freedman
(What Being Jewish Means to Me: "I dearly wish that my father, who had confronted anti-semitism in finding his early teaching positions, had lived long enough to see the installation of Jewish presidents at numerous Ivy League and Big Ten universities.")
More hysterical Judeocentric weirdness from Freedman.
Cornell University,
President: Jeffrey Lehman
University of Pennsylvania,
President: Judith Rodin [succeeded in 2004 by Amy Gutmann]
* "KOL NIDRE REMARKS: We ask: 'Where are we, ourselves?' not just, 'Where am I?' We pray collectively, both to recognize our collective responsibilities and to acknowledge the failings and limitations that are common to us all. In this way, we express the essential inter-relatedness between our own actions and the larger community in and for which we act."
* "[T]he University of Pennsylvania will not support divestment from Israel, boycotts of Israeli scholars and scientists, or any effort to stifle the free expression of diverse ideas and opinions about the Middle East conflict by our faculty and students."
* "[T]argeting Israel for divestment and boycotts is wrong."

Penn's Next President,
University of Pennsylvania
"Amy Gutmann, the Provost and Laurance S. Rockefeller University Professor of Politics and the University Center for Human Values at Princeton University, was elected the University of Pennsylvania's next president by Penn's Board of Trustees at its Feb. 20 [2004] stated meeting."
Northwestern University,
President: Henry Bienen, also Jewish
"Northwestern hosts an annual summer Institute for Holocaust and Jewish Civilization .... President Bienen serves as the honorary chair for the Institute."
University of California,
President: Richard Atkinson (former Chancellor of UC - San Diego)
(Atkinson is a member of the Board of Directors of the avidly pro-Israel Koret Foundation, which features its "Israel Emergency Fund")
Stanford University,
Chairman of the Board: Isaac Stein

McGill University (Canada),
Principal: Bernard Shapiro (stepped down in 2002)
Shapiro has been replaced by Heather Munroe-Blum
(she is married to Jewish screenwriter Len Blum)
Caltech,
President: David Baltimore
Carnegie Mellon University,
President: Jared L. Cohon

"Steven L. Isenberg, who has been Adelphi University's board chairman since the appointment of this group of trustees by the New York State Board of Regents in February 1997, was named interim president of Adelphi on July 26, when Matthew Goldstein announced his departure to become chancellor of the City University of New York."
West Chester University,
President: Madeleine Wing Adler
WCU is the headquarters of the National Association for Holocaust Studies.
(Note from a JTR contributor: Dr. Lawrence Davidson of the WCU history dept. says that "Israelis have come to believe in an alternate history." See page 84, April '03 issue of Washington Report On Middle East Affairs magazine.)
Bard College,
President: Leon Botstein
Connecticut College,
President: Norman Fainstein,
Report of the Presidential Commission on a Pluralistic Community at Connecticut College
University of Denver,
President: Marc Holtzman
Swarthmore College,
President: Alfred H. Bloom
Dean of the College: Robert Gross
George Washington University,
President: Stephen Joel Trachtenberg
University of Chicago,
Trustees:
Chairman of the board: James S. Crown (heir to the wealthy Jewish Crown family -- General Dynamics, etc.)
Vice-Chairman: Andrew M. Alper
Vice-Chairman: Paula Wolff
Secretary of the Board of Trustees: Kineret S. Jaffe
Honorary Trustee: Hugo Sonnenschein
University of Nebraska,
Chancellor: Harvey Perlman
Lafayette College,
President: Daniel Weiss, succeeds (December 2004) Arthur J. Rothkopf
York University (Canada),
Chair of the Board of Governors: Marshall A. Cohen
-- The York Foundation (the university's fund-raising source) includes Cohen, Judith Cohen, Paul E. Marcus, H. Barry Gales, Alonna Goldfarb, Maxwell Gotleib, Julia Koschitzky, Honey Sherman, and Howard Sokolowski, many with activist ties to Israel.
Goucher College, (Baltimore)
President: Sanford J. Ungar
Temple University (Philadelphia),
President: David Adamy
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New School for Social Research,
Dean of Graduate Faculty: Richard Bernstein
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The University of Alberta (Canada) has had two Jewish presidents: Max Wyman and Myer Horowitz.
From a correspondent: "When I was at the University of Arizona in the 1980s, the president, Henry Koffler, was a Jew and an open supporter of the JDL [Jewish Defense League], which was strong there. He also sat on the board of the Office of Technology Assessment. He now is the chairman of the U of A Foundation, which manages endowments."
RELIGIOUS

(Note: a pillar of "interfaith" Jewish-Christian organizations tends to be the propagandizing of Christian sensitization to Jewish concerns about "anti-Semitism" (underscoring alleged Christian blame for the "Holocaust"), and revision of historical Christian religious texts to accommodate Jewish demands. These types of organizations are typically constructed towards Christian sympathy of Jewish hostility to Christianity. Note that at least two organization directors are rabbis at Christian colleges -- a situation that is reciprocally (read: "priest") unthinkable at a Jewish center of higher learning. Interfaith "dialogue" with Jewry is essentially Christian CONCESSION to Jewish perspective, never the other way around.)
International Fellowship of Christians and Jews,
Director: Rabbi Yechiel Eckstein
(Note: this organization is a noteworthy exploitive scam. Rabbi Eckstein has sucked tens of millions of dollars from innocent Christians for brutal, racist Israel -- a country that has contempt for them.)

The Center for Catholic-Jewish Studies,
Director: Michael Cooper
The Center for Christian-Jewish Understanding,
(Sacred Heart University - Fairfield, Connecticut)
Director: Rabbi Joseph Ehrenkranz
The Ecumenical Institute for Jewish-Christian Studies,
(Southfield, Michigan)
Executive Director: David Blewett
Jay Phillips Center for Jewish-Christian Learning,
(University of St. Thomas - St. Paul, MN)
Director: Rabbi Barry D. Cytron
Chrétiens et Juifs pour un Enseignement de l'Estime,
(Belgium),
Managing Director: Menahem R. Macina
Centre for Jewish-Christian Relations,
(Cambridge University - Great Britain)
Executive Director: Edward Kessler
The Elijah School for the Study of Wisdom in World Religions,
(Jerusalem)
Director: Rabbi Alon Goshen-Gottstein
Interfaith Encounter Association, IEA,
(Jerusalem)
Director: Yehuda Stolov
Koordinierungsausschusses für Christlich-Jüdische Zusammenarbeit,
(Coordinating Committee for Christian-Jewish Cooperation)
(Austria)
Director: Markus Himmelbauer
Interreligious Coordinating Council in Israel,
(Jerusalem),
Director: Rabbi Ron Kronish
"[Chris] Gersten, a Reform Jew, president of the Institute for Religious Values and organizer of last November's [1999] Jewish-Christian dialogue at Catholic University, 'Affirming the Sanctity of Life,' provided specific goals and actions that can be pursued immediately."
"At its opening session on June 10 [2003], the 31st General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church in America elected Joel Belz as moderator. The PCA General Assembly is holding its annual meeting in the Convention Center in Charlotte through June 13. Belz is a ruling elder in Covenant Reformed Presbyterian Church in Asheville, N.C. Belz is chief executive officer at God's World Publications in Asheville. At GWP, where he began work in 1977, Belz founded and pioneered the growth of the God's World newspapers for children, with a weekly paid circulation of nearly a third of a million. In 1986, he founded World magazine, which now has a weekly paid circulation of 130,000. GWP also includes the ministry of God's World Book Club and the World Journalism Institute, started in 1999."
(Note: Boston College is a Jesuit, Catholic University).
Center for Christian-Jewish Learning
Executive Director - Philip Cunningham
Associate Director - Rabbi Ruth Langer
Polish Council for Christians and Jews,
Chairman: Stanislaw Krajewski

Posted by: One World ORDER | May 2, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

THE PROTOCOLS
OF THE LEARNED ELDERS
OF ZION
Visiting "The Protocols"

TABLE OF CONTENTS

Preface
Introduction
Who are the Elders?
Protocol I The Basic Doctrine
Protocol II Economic Wars
Protocol III Methods of Conquest
Protocol IV Materialism Replaces Religion
Protocol V Despotism and Modern Progress
Protocol VI Take-Over Technique
Protocol VII World-Wide Wars
Protocol VIII Provisional Government
Protocol IX Re-education
Protocol X Preparing for Power
Protocol XI The Totalitarian State
Protocol XII Control of the Press
Protocol XIII Distractions
Protocol XIV Assault on Religion
Protocol XV Ruthless Suppression
Protocol XVI Brainwashing
Protocol XVII Abuse of Authority
Protocol XVIII Arrest of Opponents
Protocol XIX Rulers and People
Protocol XX Financial Programme
Protocol XXI Loans and Credit
Protocol XXII Power of Gold
Protocol XXIII Instilling Obedience
Protocol XXIV Qualities of the Ruler

Posted by: Abe | May 2, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

loup-bouc: With all due respect, this conversation is getting nowhere. You do a few minutes of research, and then try to engage in a meaningful discussion about black liberation theology. As a law professor (if you are one) you should know better. I've read "Black Liberation and Black Power" cover to cover, and I recommend that you do, also. This is the book recommended by Rev. Wright on Trinity United Church's website. If you are truly interested, please take more than a few moments of your time to understand this important issue. One more thing; below are several quotes from James Cone about Obama's religion. Do you believe that they are racist in nature? If the same statements were made by a "white" theologian in reverse, would you feel the same?

(1) To be Christian is to be one of those whom God has chosen. God has chosen black people. (2) While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism. (3) Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.

Posted by: James | May 2, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Why are the Zionist So Anti Obama

Posted by: don | May 2, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

James | May 2, 2008 8:46 PM

I did not misquote myself. LEARN TO READ --- EVEN ELLIPSES.

My syntax did not make sense to you because your brain has been conditioned not to apprehend sense but, rather, the nonsense that constitutes much of the poorly educated and illogical parlance of the common American. (Yes. I am an elitist snob.)

Concerning the rest of your message (referenced above in this message):

(1) Do you suffer paranoia? [Reference your censorship delusion.]

(2) See my post above -- loup-bouc | May 2, 2008 8:57 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

James | May 2, 2008 8:07 PM

I researched, a bit, the matter of whether a possibly pertinent James Cone said what you said a James Cone said. You attributed to "James Cone" this language: "If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him." I found such perspective bizarre, even for a wild-man Black theologian. As I anticipated, I found that you tendered a misquote, the falsehood of which is critically important.

According to Cleve Wiese, (Diversified religion, March 21, 2008, at http://www.newsvirginian.com/wnv/news/local/article/diversified_religion/19035/), James Cone's, Black Liberation Theology included this language:

"In the New Testament, Jesus is not for all, but for the oppressed, the poor and unwanted of society, and against oppressors. ... Either God is for black people in their fight for liberation and against the white oppressors, or he is not."

That language does NOT suggest that Blacks must reject "God" is "God" is not "against white people." Your "quote" is a flagrant misrepresentation. Are you a member of the Clinton campaign team? Your method fits.

Posted by: loup-bouc | May 2, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse


The public has not been so engaged and interested in a national election anytime in recent history. In a democracy that's a very good thing -unless we allow the respective campaigns to degenerate into exercises in vilification that shed more heat than light. We have the power to control that.

The candidates themselves have done a pretty good job of exercising self- restraint. We as their partisans can do a better job, I think.

Posted by: Wayne | May 2, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse


The public has not been so engaged and interested in a national election anytime in recent history. In a democracy that's a very good thing -unless we allow the respective campaigns to degenerate into exercises in vilification that shed more heat than light. We have the power to control that.

The candidates themselves have done a pretty good job of exercising self- restraint. We as their partisans can do a better job, I think.

Posted by: Wayne | May 2, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

loup-bouc: I tried to reply to you, but was censored by the moderators. Apparently, they are more sympathetic to your preference in candidates than mine. At any rate, you are misquoting yourself. You said "I, I law professor, would have flunked you for such poor language. Just such poor language makes bad legal documents that injure clients." I pointed out that your statement did not make sense as written. (Don't worry, I won't flunk you for it.) How about let's stop this petty "back and forth" and get to the issues, OK?

In your second post, you said "I do not know whether any James Cone said what you say some "James Cone" said." This is the crux of the matter. You have no knowledge of Obama's so-called religion; black liberation theology. Might I suggest that you do some research on black liberation theology and James Cone first, and then you and I can have an intelligent conversation about this issue. Here is a head start for you:

BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY: The Internet is a great source for researching this topic...

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From Obama's Church Website:

"The vision statement of Trinity United Church of Christ is based upon the systematized liberation theology that started in 1969 with the publication of Dr. James Cone's book, Black Power and Black Theology."

http://www.tucc.org/talking_points.htm

James Cone defines the theology as thus:

"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."

To find out more, read "Black Theology and Black Power," by James Cone.

Posted by: James | May 2, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

James | May 2, 2008 8:16 PM

You wrote "Sorry, but 'I, I law professor' doesn't make much sense. Maybe you meant to say, 'I, as a law professor, . . .'"

No. "I, as a law professor" would be ungrammatical (even if it makes sense to your poor brain). You do not understand (or, perhaps, do not know of) apposition (like "a good boy" of "John, a good boy, loves his mother"). In "I, a law professor," "a law professor" stands in apposition to "I" -- can substitute for "I" (so that the sentence could be "A law professor would have flunked you...."

ARE you an attorney. If so, I pity your clients.

Posted by: loup-bouc | May 2, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

James | May 2, 2008 8:07 PM

(1) I addressed my comment to the James who wrote James | May 2, 2008 7:00 PM.

(2) For an attorney and a politician, words and syntax and grammar and logic are critically important SUBSTANCE -- not just form.

(3) Now the matter of your James Cone "quote": I do not know whether any James Cone said what you say some "James Cone" said. I have no cause of trusting your attribution or of believing that anyone uttered the content of the language you call a quote.

But the matter is irrelevant, because the "quote" is not a quote of anything Obama said. I doubt that even the Clintons would suggest that Obama thinks thoughts like those of the language you attribute to a "James Cone."

Posted by: loup-bouc | May 2, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

By the way, loup-bouc, you said: "I, I law professor, would have flunked you for such poor language. Just such poor language makes bad legal documents that injure clients."

Sorry, but "I, I law professor" doesn't make much sense. Maybe you meant to say, "I, as a law professor, . . ." At any rate, let's stop with the petty criticisms and talk issues. I know that puts you at a disadvantage, but it is much more productive.

Posted by: James | May 2, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Jacksmith: Now you know Obama is not going to debate Hillary. After his poor performance in the last debate, he wouldn't dare risk it. He's much better off relying on his teleprompter speeches, and outspending Hillary Clinton 3 or 4 to 1 on television ads.

Posted by: James | May 2, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

loup-bouc: There are more than one of us on this blog named James, and many of your criticisms should be directed at the other one. Having said that, I'm at work right now; yes, I actually have a job. I am typing quickly between other responsibilities. I humbly apologize to you for any of my mistakes. At any rate, grammatical errors do not address the validity of my assertions, and neither did you. Why not address the issues instead? Let's start with this one: Following is a quote from James Cone, one of the founders of Obama's so-called religion, and I'd like your opinion as to whether or not it is racist:

Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.

Posted by: James | May 2, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

it doesnt make any difference who is elected among the current candidates.
when they sit down in the oval office after election, they will be confronted by the people who really run the country.

Posted by: arthur a allen | May 2, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

DEBATE! DEBATE!! DEBATE!!!

It's time for everyone to face the truth. Barack Obama has no real chance of winning the national election in November at this time. His crushing defeat in Pennsylvania makes that fact crystal clear. His best, and only real chance of winning in November is on a ticket with Hillary Clinton as her VP.

Hillary Clinton seemed almost somber at her Pennsylvania victory speech. As if part of her was hoping Obama could have proved he had some chance of winning against the republican attack machine, and their unlimited money, and resources.

But it is absolutely essential that the democrats take back the Whitehouse in November. America, and the American people are in a very desperate condition now. And the whole World has been doing all that they can to help keep us propped up.

Hillary Clinton say's that the heat, and decisions in the Whitehouse are much tougher than the ones on the campaign trail. But I think Mr. Obama faces a test of whether he has what it takes to be a commander and chief by facing the difficult facts, and the truth before him. And by doing what is best for the American people by dropping out of the race, and offering his whole hearted assistance to Hillary Clinton to help her take back the Whitehouse for the American people, and the World.

Mr. Obama is a great speaker. And I am confident he can explain to the American people the need, and wisdom of such a personal sacrifice for them. It should be clear to everyone by now that Hillary Clinton is fighting her heart out for the American people. She has known for a long time that Mr. Obama can not win this November. You have to remember that the Clinton's have won the Whitehouse twice before. They know what it takes.

If Mr. Obama fails his test of commander and chief we can only hope that Hillary Clinton can continue her heroic fight for the American people. And that she prevails. She will need all the continual support and help we can give her. She may fight like a superhuman. But she is only human.

Sen. Hillary Clinton: "You know, more people have now voted for me than have voted for my opponent. In fact, I now have more votes than anybody has ever had in a primary contest for a nomination. And it's also clear that we've got nine more important contests to go."

Sincerely

Jacksmith... Working Class :-)

Posted by: jacksmith | May 2, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

James | May 2, 2008 7:00 PM

I shall assume the truth of your assertions that you hold a JD degree and that you are a practicing attorney. Even so, I cannot resist observing that your writing is both ungrammatical (badly so) and illogical.

Examples (two of more than several flaws):

(1) "...when you are a trained attorney, research comes naturally to us." Errors: (a) Number disagreement. "you" ... "us". (b) Illogic. Research does not "come naturally" to anyone, and not all attorneys learn to research adequately.
(2)

"After several weeks of looking into his background, it was apparent to me that I could never vote for him." Error: Dangling prepositional phrase. "After several weeks" bears no logical referent. In the context, "After several weeks..." cannot modify, LOGICALLY, the term "it" -- though the term "it" is the only structurally-possible referent. Also, the term "it" is either nonsense or redundant. What is "it"? If "it" stands in apposition to "that I could never vote for him," then "it was apparent" is redundant. [Cure: "After several weeks of searching his background, I concluded that I could not vote for him." (I did not use "could never" because you cannot know the whole of your future voting conduct).]

Have I sunk to illegitimate ad hominem attack? No! You claim to be an attorney. I, I law professor, would have flunked you for such poor language. Just such poor language makes bad legal documents that injure clients.

Also, you and others attack Obama's character from the premise of his associations (even associational "facts" that do not exist) -- rather than his (Obama's) own conduct. But your language is that of a self-styled attorney, and an attorney's language determines his professional merit. The law is ONLY language. All thought is ONLY language. Sloppy language is sloppy thought.

ichief | May 2, 2008 7:01 PM

You wrote: "Obama supporters pathetically resort to name-calling and desperate attempts to smear Hillary Clinton as she surges in the Indiana and NC polls in the last weekend before the primaries."

Your assertion parallels such assertions of Bush, Cheney, Rove, et alia -- attributing to victims the acts of the culprits. No one does name-calling more or more flagrantly (and more fallaciously) than the Clintons.

Posted by: loup-bouc | May 2, 2008 8:00 PM | Report abuse

I say the Dems should settle this one on the court - not in the courts. One-on-one. First one to 10 gets the nomination. Prediction: Obama 10 - Clinton 0. The man can flat out play.
And, oh by the way, kudos to Obama for maintaining his composure while under relentless attack over the last six weeks. We need his cool head and calm demeanor in the Oval office.

Posted by: John | May 2, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

WE LOVE YOU HILLARY.

She is the one! Obviously dude!

Posted by: Kelly | May 2, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Tim: It's not the minister that is changing Obama's fortunes; it is the fact that Obama has belonged to a racist, black liberation theology church for 20 years, and considered it's racist and anti-American pastor to be his "mentor and spiritual adviser." If Hillary had belonged to a white racist church for 20 years, and considered its white racist pastor to be her "mentor and spiritual adviser," would you not consider that germane in determining whether or not she would get your vote?

Posted by: James | May 2, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

JakeD: For U and others. Check "The Fix" Jan 3 2008 for "Three questions for the caucuses" A couple of my Comments on this subject are at 11:59AM and 2:35 PM, and I would highly recommend you and others to read the entire Blog, very intelligent comments on a variety of topics.

Posted by: lylepink | May 2, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

I like this....all a cast of Clinton crooks! This will most certainly bolster Obama's argument that change will not happen with her in office.

This list of people backing her affirms why my skin crawls when I think of the Clinton's back in the white house.

Posted by: Johnny Stine | May 2, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

For all his faults, and he has many, Rev. Wright seems to be an honest man. That's more than anyone can say for his "nephew" Obama. These statements by Rev. Wright are what caused Obama to finally throw his "mentor and spiritual adviser" under the bus:

"Politicians say what they say and do what they do based on electability, based on sound bites, based on polls," Wright told the Press Club."Preachers say what they say because they're pastors.... I do what pastors do.[Obama] does what politicians do." A few days earlier, in an interview with PBS's Bill Moyers, Wright said Obama, in his Philadelphia speech attempting to calm the controversy created by Wright's sermons, had said "what he has to say as a politician."

Posted by: James | May 2, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

The Hillary camp is proving once again that winning is all that matters, not principle, ideas, innovation, or heaven forbid issues - To think that a minister could change the course of America with a few punch lines of a sermon is absurd. But hey, anything's better than having to face the reality of decimated economies, trillion dollar wars, with more to come, unprecedented corruption at the top levels of government. The Clintons have no interest in the middle class othere than as a stepping stone to their own aggrandizement.

Give it up Hillary supporters. Your bankrupt of ideas and your proving it yet again. Time to stop the vitriol and start addressing the real issues we are facing now. Do the right thing and let the rest of the country change for the better withBarack Obama as its next President of the United States of America.

Posted by: Tim | May 2, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

What kind of buffoon would say that she would "obliterate Iran"? Oh, nevermind.

Posted by: Mich Indie | May 2, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

rippermccord:

This is not really about Rev. Wright. It is about the character and judgment of someone (Obama) who would join a racist black liberation theology church; stay for 20 years; formulate a close relationship with the racist and anti-American pastor such that he calls him his "mentor and spiritual adviser;" try to conceal this from the public by continually saying that he is a "Christian;" and then expect us to forget about those 20 years, merely because he himself is finally "outraged." Rev. Wright admits that he preaches black liberation theology, and after 20 years of attendance, Obama knew it, too. Where in the Bible do you find anything both consistent with the tenets of Christianity and consistent with these statements by James Cone, one of the founders of black liberation theology?
(1) "To be Christian is to be one of those whom God has chosen. God has chosen black people." (2) "While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism." (3) "All white men are responsible for white oppression." (4) "Theologically, Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man "the devil." (5) "If there is any contemporary meaning of the Antichrist, the white church seems to be a manifestation of it." (6) "Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."

Now, if you don't think that the statements above are racist, then you and I can agree to disagree. The real issue is that Americans in general need to know about the racist nature of Obama's religion, because it goes to the heart of his character and judgment. Then, once America understands this issue, if they agree with the racist bent of his church, so be it. I have a feeling, however, that once people find out about this issue, he will be losing supporters by the droves. If it doesn't happen now, it will in the general election if, God forbid, he is the Democratic nominee.

Posted by: James | May 2, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

To those who will like to believe that Obama is unelectable : my sincere apologies. I feel so bad for the underprivileged crowd who also may be "over ignorant" that the Clintons are preying on. What dose it say in a country like America, that the leader will continue to manipulate the poor and ignorant to their own detriment. Where is the bright spot in it for Hillary when the bulk of her so called supporters in the Democratic party are those that have been described as uneducated...poor....etc ? we are not talking about some third world country..this is America! This is the same kinds of things that Robert Mugabe and leaders like him do in places like Zimbabwe !!! The longer she stays in this race, the more she unravels herself.
I hope we do not miss this opportunity to turn this country the right way. Hillary will not be the one to do that,she has shown that she is no better than the nincompoops who have spent the country into serious debt...morally and financially. There is a time for everything...so says the good book. The Clinton time has come and gone. It is Obama's time. It is America's time.....Hillary is spent...she should go back to the senate or become New York's governor if she so desperately want to be a chief executive.

Posted by: dave | May 2, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

MY FELLOW "BITTER", STUPID, WORKING CLASS PEOPLE :-)

If you think like Barack Obama, that WORKING CLASS PEOPLE are just a bunch of "BITTER"!, STUPID, PEASANTS, Cash COWS!, and CANNON FODDER. :-(

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary's than they had ever been before or since.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton. :-)

Best regards

jacksmith... Working Class :-)

p.s. You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you don't know that the huge amounts of money funding the Obama campaign to try and defeat Hillary Clinton is coming in from the insurance, and medical industry, that has been ripping you off, and killing you and your children. And denying you, and your loved ones the life saving medical care you needed. All just so they can make more huge immoral profits for them-selves off of your suffering...

You see, back in 1993 Hillary Clinton had the audacity, and nerve to try and get quality, affordable universal health care for everyone to prevent the suffering and needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of you each year. :-)

Approx. 100,000 of you die each year from medical accidents from a rush to profit by the insurance, and medical industry. Another 120,000 of you die each year from treatable illness that people in other developed countries don't die from. And I could go on, and on...

OBAMA AIDE: "WORKING-CLASS VOTERS NOT KEY FOR DEMOCRATS" :o

DEBATE! DEBATE!! DEBATE!!!...

Posted by: jacksmith | May 2, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

From a recent letter to an Indiana paper:

Look, I'm Catholic, but that doesn't mean I agree with everything the pope says or that I want to trade places with my priest. So how do the views of Obama's former pastor -- whatever they are -- have anything to do with Obama? This whole thing smells like a sleazy attack ad.

No, the press has given Hillary a free ride while she's been helping them stoke the fires of suspicion all along, just like Karl Rove would do. She can't seem to make up her mind between dodging sniper fire or taking potshots at Obama. She even has an aide, Sidney Blumenthal, who's been emailing baloney about Obama to the media every single day. Like that malarkey about Obama not holding his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance. She KNOWS Obama often leads the Senate in the Pledge of Allegiance and that the photo on the internet was taken while Obama was singing the National Anthem, not saying the pledge!

Meanwhile, Hillary's trying to score votes by pushing this puny little gas tax holiday that's going to save me a whole 30 cents a day, or about $30 over the whole summer. Well, whoopee! I can't wait to pay off the mortgage! Obama's the only one who has the courage to tell it like it is.

Don't even get me started on Hillary's "blue-collar dress-up." Yes it takes some "testicular fortitude" to run a TV ad that blames Bush for sending China those 200 jobs at the Magnequench plant in Valparaiso. But it was Bill Clinton who signed off on that deal in 1996!

And how did Bill protect our economy? Why, he took some of his $250,000-a-pop speaking fees and pitched in with his business buddy Ron Burkle to buy TDS Logitics. Now we find out at the last minute that TDS Logistics is in the global outsourcing business! TDS moves entire companies overseas! That's their job. It's what they do. And it's clients in Indiana included Delphi, Chrysler, Eaton, Johnson Controls and Visteon, all of whom closed plants in Indiana -- leading to the loss of almost 2,000 Indiana jobs.

I'll say about the Clintons what Hillary said to Bill about white Southern voters: "Screw 'em!"

Posted by: rippermccord | May 2, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

For those that scrutinize the national polls it is amazingly clear that there is a strong, left leaning side for Obama. It is also very evident that there is a strong, right leaning side for McCain. The big test comes from the middle.

In poll after poll, Hillary Clinton tracks best with the average, middle of the road voter. Not surprisingly, this is the voting bloc that will decide our next Presidential Election.

Enough with the slogans, enough with the pandering, enough with the pastor. Enough.

There is nothing to win here and everything to lose. For all the Democrats that feel so strongly about their candidate, please feel just as strongly about winning the Presidency.

It seems that Hillary stands the best chance and for that reason, emotions aside, we all need to step back and make a decision that winning the Presidency is the goal.

Posted by: texasdem | May 2, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: James | May 2, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Hillary won all the big states, including Florida and Michigan.

Hillary is ahead in the popular vote.

Hillary is ahead in the electoral vote, the ones that matter in November.

Hillary is experienced, accomplished, and knowledgeable.

Hillary Clinton will give us another Greatest Economic Expansion in History. Her close advisor is President Bill Clinton who gave us the first Greatest Economic Expansion in History.

Posted by: Dave S. | May 2, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

JakeD: I am not sure, but I think I found this Repub strategy before you voted in Feb. from a Repub friend of mine that there was an effort to give money to his campaign, and later I found out about the X-Over strategy and then the change of Registration to support Obama for most Repubs thought/KNEW he was the weakest of all the Dems then running. This has PROVEN to be the most ACCURATE assessment of the entire campaign as far as I can find. I will try and find when I first Posted this info and let U know if I find it.

Posted by: lylepink | May 2, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Barak is better fit for a Hollywood movie president. America doesn't need a Hollywood president, they need someone who can lead this country during a serious time period. Hillary is a true presidential candidate. If Barak is unable to unite democrats (relate to those beyond limousine liberals) how is he possibly going to unite the nation? There's no way. Obama supporters want Hillary out now, but I just want a democrat in office next year and Hillary has the greatest potential to beating John McCain. It's a democratic election process, Obama is in the delegate lead but does not have the necessary delegates so in all democratic fairness, let Hillary continue. Lets see where they end up, we shouldn't neglect the remaining states/territories that's not democratic at all. And, this race is not negative, negative is swift boat ads. Better to air the dirty laundry now and get it out of the way instead of it plopping on to the landscape weeks before the actual Nov election.

Posted by: West Coaster | May 2, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Obama sided with Bush on the war.
Full funding / no strings. Twice.

Slogan Man For President. Dope.

Posted by: hhkeller | May 2, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Obama supporters pathetically resort to name-calling and desperate attempts to smear Hillary Clinton as she surges in the Indiana and NC polls in the last weekend before the primaries.

Obama and company have been gloating for a couple of days over their two former DNC chair endorsements; Clinton trumps them with a letter of support signed by seven former DNC chairs.

Now listen to the Obamaphiles rant, rave, and cry out in misery.

Posted by: ichief | May 2, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

AndyfromVA: I, too, have a Juris Doctor in Law, and am a practicing attorney. I have no idea where the pundits get the idea that more educated people vote for Obama. You sure couldn't tell from the activity of these blogs. I think a more accurate generalization would be that more informed people would choose Hillary Clinton. When I was first exposed to Obama, I liked him. But you know as well as I, that when you are a trained attorney, research comes naturally to us. After several weeks of looking into his background, it was apparent to me that I could never vote for him. I knew about his racist church months before it came out in the mainstream media. I had already read how, in obtaining his first elective office, he had stabbed Alice Palmer, his friend and political mentor, in the back and had her thrown off the ballot. No, Obama doesn't stand for "change" or "unity." I don't know that I've seen a Presidential candidate who is less deserving of those descriptions (except, maybe, George Bush). The tragedy of the current process is that the media has once again, let the voters down. If they had interrupted their infatuation with Obama for just long enough to do their homework, maybe some of the issues coming out now, would have come out many months ago. If that had happened, it is likely that Obama would now be just a memory.

Posted by: James | May 2, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Obama would have been better off to agree with the specious argument that a temporary federal gas tax suspension is good for America. Then he wouldn't have to listen to Hillary yammering on about it. Even if it could be figured out how to be put into effect. Her pandering for votes is so transparent not to mention getting very embarrasing. You can take every reference "good for America" out of her communications and insert the term "Good for my campaign" and it would be more appropriate. If she campaigned strictly on her merits I would have more respect for her. But her willingness to shred and destroy Obama's candidacy come hell or high water in order for her to somehow desparately make it into the general election is disturbing. She is an inside the Beltway politician, and a street brawler when it comes to campaigning. Good for her.

Hang on Barack. She will fade in your rear view mirror soon enough.

Posted by: Patrick | May 2, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

I'm in Raleigh, NC and I'm switching from Clinton to Obama. I can't wait to cast my vote. She's an evil woman who won't give up.

Posted by: martagomez | May 2, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

KARL ROVE AND REPUBLICANS HELPING OBAMA WIN THE NOMINATION
http://tinyurl.com/2anrtw

Posted by: James | May 2, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA SUPPORTERS -- OBAMA HAS NEVER REPRESENTED "CHANGE" IN POLITICS. HERE IS HOW OBAMA OBTAINED HIS FIRST ELECTIVE OFFICE: Chicago Sun-Times--A close examination of Obama's first campaign clouds the image he has cultivated throughout his political career: Obama, who runs on a message of giving a voice to the voiceless, first entered public office not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it. Alice Palmer, friend and mentor to Obama, served the district in the Illinois Senate for much of the 1990s. Decades earlier, she was a community organizer in the area when Obama was growing up in Hawaii. She risked her safe seat to run for Congress and touted Obama as a suitable successor. But when Palmer lost the congressional race, her supporters asked Obama to fold his campaign so she could easily retain her state Senate seat. Obama not only refused to step aside for the woman who was his friend and had recommended him for the seat, he filed challenges that nullified Palmer's hastily gathered nominating petitions, forcing her to withdraw. Had Palmer survived the petition challenge, Obama would have faced the daunting task of taking on an incumbent senator. "He wondered if we should knock everybody off the ballot. How would that look?" said Ronald Davis, the paid Obama campaign consultant whom Obama referred to as his "guru of petitions." Davis filed objections to all four of Obama's Democratic rivals at the candidate's behest. All other candidates were disposed of by Obama's challenges. He then went on to win the election.

http://tinyurl.com/2zwwte

Posted by: James | May 2, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

CLINTON IS THE NEW ROVE

Posted by: ONCE a Clinton Fan | May 2, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

old lady

Perhaps age has taken away what few brain cells that lived up in your cranium a long while ago.

The most common complaint against NObama is not his name, nor his pastor. It is that he is a no body. No resume, no experience, no accomplishment, no policy, no clue, no nothing. No there there with him.

The guy can't point to any accomplishment in his life. He once gave a speech. At a time when a lot of people in the country opposed a crazy war, he did too. Then he was not sure any more. He thought may be he made a mistake. SO voted some votes that went against pulling out right away, voted to keep the troops in, to fund them, and so on.

But then he got lucky. The Rethuglican goofballs mismanaged the post-ware so badly. So he changed his mind again. Started thumping his anti-ware stance again. Wrote a book. But before that, he got the title from his beloved mentor that taught him every thing he learned since Harvard.

Well, is that enough to become the president? Well, the NObama groupies think so. But then, most of these are just gullible idiots, who need to move from one fad to another. Perhaps a lot of them are addicted, in more ways than one.

Posted by: intcamd | May 2, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

As posted earlier, Everyone can sit down with a map and do the math. Obama, has won the RED states that in the GE will go for McCain. Obama has only won his home state.

If Obama get the Dem. Nomination, the real outcome will be a landslide victory for McCain. Not just a win but a landslide.

If Obama is the Dem. canidate, McCain could probably sit home and not campagin and still win.

Look at the Map and do the Math and you will see at this point Hillary has a much better chance of being the next president than Obama.

Obama Rama will not be the next president. Because there are a lot more moderate democrats like me that will vote for McCain if given the choice between Obama and McCain. But would vote for Hillary if she was on the ticket.

So, support who you like, but be ready for the end result.

Posted by: Bill | May 2, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

JakeD | May 2, 2008 6:10 PM

"HILLARY VOTED FOR THE WAR":

So did Obama (like I said, though, at least you corrected the spelling of Karl Rove's names ; )
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No. Obama did not vote for the war. He opposed it before he was elected Senator. While a Senator, he voted for a bill that CONTINUED funding the already-ongoing Afghanistan and Iraq campaigns, but first he supported a bill that would require that we withdraw from Iraq by April 2008. Since the timed-withdraw version failed, he voted for the only alternative that would continue funding, but for the reason that otherwise our troops would be deprived of needed supplies.
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JakeD | May 2, 2008 6:14 PM

I still think the chances are greater that Hillary loses the general election (especially if 96% of the African-American vote goes to McCain ; )
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That is one of several posts that bear your premise that McCain could get 96% of the Black vote. See also JakeD | May 2, 2008 4:32 PM and JakeD | May 2, 2008 4:16 PM

Your premise is absurd. The converse is certainty: McCain will get NO MORE THAN 4% of the Black vote, and either Hillary or Obama would get the rest. Most Blacks do not vote for Republicans, ever, and surely not for Republicans who want to continue the Iraq war for even 100 years and let "market forces" determine who shall have health care insurance.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

There has never been a vote to continue the war only to fund the thing as it is. Faced with not supporting our troops as the only alternative, voting to continue funding was the only choice available. Until he can be elected and put forth a real opportunity to end this stupid waste of money and move on to real national issues.
Billery is for whatever gets a vote at the time, at least we know where they will stand right after the CNN analyst tells her whats polling good.
I commend Obama for not wallowing in the gutter with her, he let The Bosnia thing pass he hasn't screamed about the promised jobs during her NY sen run that did not materialize (I mean that Gore took from her!) he has been true to his change in politics idea as anyone could expect.
Clinton thought she could win with only the few big states she owned from past favors and overlooked the idea that AMERICANS don't like liars as much as dreamers.

Posted by: Big Tom | May 2, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

I have a law degree and I'd never vote for Nobama.

What kind of educational background do you have?

Posted by: AndyfromVA | May 2, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

"..LISTEN UP PINHEADS!!!!!!!!!...."

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Clinton's demographics favor the un-educated

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

It's a totally different thing to vote to pay to protect our soldiers in in a war that others started.

Hillary voted FOR the war

Obama ran as Senator as an anti-war critic...emulating the other Democratic Senator from Illinois: Dick Durbin who voted AGAINST war (unlike Hillary, who voted FOR the war)


HILLARY VOTED FOR THE WAR

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

The media's explanation for Rev. Wright's behavior has been "narcism". But could there be something else?

Rev. Wright could be experiencing the first stages of Alzheimers - a disease that often causes negative behavioral changes in the early stages.

That would explain:

-Why Sen. Obama hadn't heard such divisive statements from Rev. Wright in the past;

-And why many of the parishoners from Trinity Curch are saying the same thing as Sen. Obama;

-And why the inflammatory statements we've all heard are from Rev. Wright's more recent sermons, rather than from his older sermons;

-And why the media hasn't been able to dredge up a whole lot more, after intensive research into taped and transcribed sermons of over 20 years;

-And why this obviously inteligent pastor, with a long record of working for the oppressed, does not seem to realize how he is hurting the andidate he claims to support.

Rev. Wright is obviously not thinking clearly; and his actions, rather than resulting from narcicism, could intead be an eaarly indication of a devastating disease.

Posted by: old lady | May 2, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

LISTEN UP PINHEADS!!! THIS MAYBE HARD FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND.......SO I'LL TRY TO PUT IN SIMPLE TERMS......

OBAMA CAN SPIN ALL HE WANTS THAT HE VOTED AGAINST THE WAR!!!!! HE DIDN'T HAVE A VOTE NOR COULD HE VOTE!!!!! DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT! WE WASN'T SWORN INTO THE SENATE UNTIL 2005.....GOT THAT 2005......

ANOTHER LITTLE LESSON IN HISTORY......AN ANTI-WAR CANDIDATE HAS NOT BEEN ELECTED PRESIDENT SINCE FDR....YES....FDR.HE DIDN'T ENTER THE WAR UNTIL WE WERE ATTACHED AT PEARL HARBOR.....BUT THEN AGAIN YOU IDIOTS PROBABLY DIDN'T STUDY HISTORY......

KEEP DRINKING THAT KOOL-AID. OBAMA IS ALL FLUFF AND NO SUBSTANCE.....

YOU IDIOTS ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE BLACK VOTE......WERE WERE YOU IN 2004

YOU'D PROBABLY FOR OJ SIMPSON IF HE WERE RUNNING FOR PRESENT.....

THIS "GARLIC NOSE" WILL NEVER VOTE FOR THAT CLOSET RACIST OBAMA......

Posted by: buffalo for hillary | May 2, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

To the pompous fool Gloria way above,

For every bimbo groupie like you, there are 10 other Clinton supporters who will gladly walk away from NObama and vote McCain.

Remember that in every poll so far, a far larger % of Clinton supporters said they will not vote NObama, than vice versa.

And you can be sure that a whole bunch of NObama supporters in primaries and caucuses will not even vote for him on Nov 5. He got a whole bunch of Rethuglicans who crossed over for their own reasons, well minded Dems who think HRC is polarizing so supported NObama, and of course green behind the ears youth. The crossover Rethugs will be plenty happy to go back their Rethuglican fold; the Dems that think Clintons are polarizing will eventually realize that NObama is just as polarizing as HRC (just look at his appeal among white voters and among right wing people even now - abyssmal). And finally, the youth, who decided supporting NObama is this year's hip thing, will have their empty minds filled with whatever is the latest fad (campus binges?), and will not even show upto vote.

NObama is TOAST. Muhahahahahahaha. SWEET.

Posted by: intcamd | May 2, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Wright is trying to sink Obama because he knows what a hypocrite the man is.

The fact is that Obama was a loyal supporter and advocate of Wright until Obama announced for President.

Either Obama still supports Wright's positions or Obama is the biggest hypocrite, liar and phony on the political scene today. Or maybe both.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

WHY DID OBAMA VOTE TO CONTINUE THE WAR?
DOPE

Posted by: hhkeller | May 2, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Or, he is finally thinking very clearly and has a good reason for trying to sink Obama's candidacy. Also, September 16, 2001 is a "recent" sermon?!

Posted by: JakeD | May 2, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse


The media's explanation for Rev. Wright's bizarre behavior has been "narcism". But could there be something else?

Rev. Wright could be experiencing the first stages of Alzheimers - a disease that aften causes negative behavioural changes in the early stages.

That would explain:

-Why Obama hadn't heard such divisive statements from Rev. Wright in the past;

-And why many of the parishoners from Trinity Church are saying the same thing as Obama;

-And why the inflammatory statements we've all heard are from Rev. Wright's more recent sermons, rather than from his older sermons;

-And why the media hasn't been able to dredge up a whole lot more after intensive research into taped and transcribed sermons of over 20 years;

-And why this obviously intelligent pastor, with a long record of working for the oppressed, does not seem to realize how he is hurting candidacy he claims to support.

Rev. Wright is obviously not thinking clearly, and his actions, rather than resulting from narcism, could instead be an early indication of a devastating disease.

Posted by: old lady | May 2, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous at 6:09 PM:

I do not believe he wrote that in one of his books -- he did admit that in a 2004 New York Times interview -- while defending Kerry and Edwards for THEIR Iraq war vote ...

Posted by: JakeD | May 2, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

I really question a person's patriotism if all that matters is winning the election for the Democratic party's sake.

Posted by: CP Cook | May 2, 2008 6:09 PM

truer words were never spoken.....heres one who isn't going to vote for someone I don't trust being President ever....I hope I never do especially for the partys sake....only an idiot would do that.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

AndyfromVA:

I still think the chances are greater that Hillary loses the general election (especially if 96% of the African-American vote goes to McCain ; )

Posted by: JakeD | May 2, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Both Democratic cadidates still support the war in Irag by their voting to fund it.


write-In Hugo Chavez for President bring the Bolivarian revolution to North America

Posted by: Cort | May 2, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

If Obama wins the nomination, the Democrats lose the election and possibly control of Congress as well. The American people won't vote for a person who has demonstrated, by his choice of pastor, spouse and friends, that he hates America.

Posted by: AndyfromVA | May 2, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

"HILLARY VOTED FOR THE WAR":

So did Obama (like I said, though, at least you corrected the spelling of Karl Rove's names ; )

Posted by: JakeD | May 2, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

He also wrote in one of his books that he didn't now how he might have voted if he had been in the Senate....Maybe he was looking out for both ways...If things had gone good in iraq..then he could have said well i said I wouldn't have voted for the war before I was in the senate but I also said if I had been in the senate in a book I wrote I didn't know how I might have voted seeing the information the CIA had...thats what you call wanting it both ways...

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Joe Andrew switched to Obama because he thinks it was time to bring the nomination battle to a close to avoid damaging the party's chances of winning in November. Please note that he is more interested in just having the nominee and not because Obama has the qualifications.

Although I respect Andrew's opinion, I can't, in good conscience, vote for Obama. Therefore, I would rather have the nomination process continue. It is also not good for Obama to be handed the nomination because it was "convenient" to do so. USA is a greater cause than the Democratic party, therefore, I really question a person's patriotism if all that matters is winning the election for the Democratic party's sake.

Posted by: CP Cook | May 2, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

lylepink:

Did you find it before February (when I voted)?

Clintons GOTTA GO! (I agree ; )

But, before Tuesday comes GUAM tomorrow -- Hillary will win that and Indiana on Tuesday -- maybe even squeak by in North Carolina. If she wins every remaining contest, she at least has the momentum going into Denver, right?

Posted by: JakeD | May 2, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

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....................HILLARY VOTED FOR THE WAR

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Dang....Hillary, her campaign and her pathetic supporters are DESPERATE!!! DANG!!! I can't wait until Tuesday night to see the returns. I just have a funny feeling that the news pundits and all of this b.s that the paid off cable network stations and conservatives are pushing down voters' throat ain't going to work!! The TRUE American people are fed up and ready to go!! We have had it with the Clintons and Bushs.....I just have a feeling that girlfriend isn't going to get what she WANTS....For some reason the supers are quickly moving Obama's way..He has been vetted and the issue with Rev. Wright is going to be a backfire in the general because the Republicans have far too many preachers that are just like Wright if not worst and those hateful preachers have shoveled far too much money up the Republicans' as** to be ignored or denounced. On the other hand, the supers KNOW that Bill and Hill got some serious ish in their garbage bags and they aren't ABOUT to loose the general with those two. The Clintons don't care because they are using everyone just to get back into the White house so they can tell the Republicans, "I told you so"....but the American people (the smart ones, that is) are going to be here to push those Clintons back and say "say it aint' so, the Clintons gotta GO!!

Posted by: Clintons GOTTA GO! | May 2, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Obama didn't vote AGAINST the Iraq war because he wasn't even a senator yet when the vote took place.

However, Obama did come back and vote FOR funding the war however.


Don't be fooled by Obama's "Holier Than Thou" baloney, it's all a cunning sham.

Obama preaches empty promises without the detail and experience to back them up, don't waste your


Obama is a flip-flopper and a liar and now he has run his grandma over TWICE with the bus.


I hate to imagine what he has in store for the rest of us.


Go Hillary for President!

Posted by: The Real Deal | May 2, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

How can anyone trust Hillary? She agreed to not count Florida and Michigan but the moment she needs them she wants to change the rules to count them. Personally, I think this shows a lack of integrity on her part that is more troubling than any pastoral associations of Obama.

Posted by: Darren | May 2, 2008 5:32 PM


she's talking about the popular vote and by law they have to count those...they voted for a candidate on the ballot..he took his off..that was his mistake...they might not count the delegates but votes have to be counted...you just can't throw away the votes..the DNC can't say the votes those votes won't count.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Interesting how the most popular complaints against Obama seem to be his name and his pastor.

This must be the new version of picking a president based on whether you'd like to drink a beer with him.

I say GO OBAMA! He knows the issues and isn't afraid to set policy based on what's best for our country.

People who say Hillary is more electable than Obama are ignoring the FACT that Obama is BEATING Hillary!

The Hillary "electable" claim is just one of them thar "talking points".

Go OBAMA!

Posted by: old lady | May 2, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Be nice if we could see Billary's real votes in TX & OH (and where else I wonder?), without the padding by republicans who would never vote for her in Nov. Over 100,000 just in TX I heard; the diff between her or Obama winning there.

I was a republican until this election. I hope they reap what they sow with these games.

Posted by: cynthia | May 2, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Bills re-eclection plans have washed down the tube. He can't get his wife elected so maybe they can trash the other guy and wait 4 yrs. I think they should be judged for running a campaign that was a can't miss sweep to the GE into the ground, the same way they might run a once proud nation all the way down. I don't like it, but give the new kid with new ideas a shot what do we have to lose. The repub machine is nothing compared to the dirty old Clinton machine.

Posted by: Big tom | May 2, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

LINTON SELL OUT INDIANA DEFENSE JOBS TO RED CHINA

286 Delegates to OBAMA VICTORY

What Clinton never includes in the oft-repeated tale is the role that prominent Democrats played in selling the company and its technology to the Chinese. She never mentions that big-time Democratic contributor George Soros helped put together the deal to sell the company or that the sale was approved by her husband's administration.

Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Ind., and Rep. Pete Visclosky, D-Ind., said the move would leave the United States without a significant domestic source of rare-earth magnets used in smart bombs. The Valparaiso plant made about 80 percent of the magnets bought by the Pentagon, they said.

The Clinton administration didn't block the move

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

I believe it was not for Operation Chaos and Hillary trying to act as if she honest believed Obama was elite, that she would not have won Pennsylvania. How many Republicans changed to Democrats just for that day? No way they are going to stay Democrat and vote for Hillary come November.

Now will someone tell me who is this Peter F. Paul I keep hearing murmurings about

Posted by: http://nohighfructosecornsyrup.blogspot.com/ | May 2, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

How can anyone trust Hillary? She agreed to not count Florida and Michigan but the moment she needs them she wants to change the rules to count them. Personally, I think this shows a lack of integrity on her part that is more troubling than any pastoral associations of Obama.

Posted by: Darren | May 2, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Well, I guess we'll have to wait, then, because Obama has already won.

Personally, I think he'll cream old Mr. McSame.

But, Obama is the Democratic nominee...might as well get used to it...and start openly supporting your real candidate (i.e. McCain)


(you don't fool anyone)

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Obama can not win in GE. No one wants to be politically incorrect and say it. But a large portion of the White working class just will not vote for him. For what ever reason you want to pick from. Good or BAD, That is a fact.

If Obama wins the Democratic Nomination look for a Landslide victory by McCain and many seats in the house and senate to be lost on his coat tails.

If Obama is having trouble now, wait until the well funded Republican war machine gets into the action.


yo....right on brother

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Another sign of increasing desperation from a campaign that's yet to come to terms with reality: Shrillary is not going to have the delegates to the nomination. Her only hope is to steal them and destroy the party in the process.

Posted by: Mike B | May 2, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Obama can not win in GE. No one wants to be politically incorrect and say it. But a large portion of the White working class just will not vote for him. For what ever reason you want to pick from. Good or BAD, That is a fact.

If Obama wins the Democratic Nomination look for a Landslide victory by McCain and many seats in the house and senate to be lost on his coat tails.

If Obama is having trouble now, wait until the well funded Republican war machine gets into the action.

Posted by: Bill | May 2, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

maybe in your dreams

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

"...Howard Dean says the democrats will unite after the primary....He's as wrong about that..."


Yes, he's wrong. They should pledge for Obama now.

He's already won. Time to stop the internal fighting, join together, and elect Barack Obama as the 44th President.

NOW, not later

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone really think if these tapes had come out before the primary started that he would have won the states that he has?Since the tapes have come out she has won everyone and will probaly win the rest also....The super delegates better think about that before they jump on a bandwagon thats going to crash in nov.if they get on or stay on the bandwagon.Howard Dean says the democrats will unite after the primary....He's as wrong about that as he was about Michigan and Florida.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

This is hilarious! Ed Rendell and Terry McAuliffe? This is like Obama's campaign managers writing a letter to the DNC . . .

This has just gone on way too long. Hillary was too focussed on "The United Big States of America" to see she was losing the delagate race- it's in the bag for Obama now, love him or hate him. He'll likely choose a running mate who will pick up Hillary's supporters anyway. Fall in line, Democrats, and put this to bed.

I'm in agreement with Junior- a write in may be the best option at this point . . . this ridiculous bickering and sniping must come to a halt.

Posted by: Barney | May 2, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

No modern democrat has ever won the nomination without the black vote. Hillary won't win the GE either. I'm going to vote either write-in or third-party. Can't vote for McCain, I question his character because he voted down the MLK holiday. I'm hoping that if Hillary steals this, African-Americans leave the Democratic Party and we either start our own third party or switch to independents.

Posted by: Junior | May 2, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

jdmac3ct:

You're shooting yourself in the foot with your argument.

If the people who support Hillary only do so based on race ... what's saying they will magically support Obama in Nov.?

I've heard thsi argument before and it's laughable. Yes, sadly, some people out there are racist.

But, unfortunately that's not going to change before the general election.

And, sadly, these people are as much of a right to vote as you and I.

Posted by: Ghost of PA past | May 2, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

These people are complete idiots if they think that Hillary has a chance of winning the general election. If they are able to pursuade enough of these super delegates to flip the nomination to her they will have removed the "democratic" from the Democratic Party. She won't just lose the black vote, she will lose those of us who thought we belonged to the party with scruples.

Posted by: Saminfla46 | May 2, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Ann:

You can massage the numbers all you want. The only measure of merit in the nomination process is the delegate count.

The "popular vote tally" is a trite canard. Do voters not deserve to be heard because their state conducts a caucus & doesn't report vote totals?

Posted by: Jeremiah | May 2, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

The fact is they are all politicians. They get things done by working their relationships. Do you all think Joe Andrews was "suddenly" enlightened that Obama is a better candidate? This must be the work of a backroom negotiation. Scratch my back and I'll scratch yours.

How can a candidate with limited political history be better suited for the White House? How is his message of HOPE different from Hillary's? Unfortunately perception plays a great part and Obama is great on-stage. But so far I have seen no substance behind his HOPE messages.

As much as I dislike politics, it is what makes this country tick. They are both politicians and will say what it takes to convince an audience. Although I believe Hillary is a better candidate because of her political and White House history.

Perception will get you seated, relationships will make you effective!

Posted by: IF | May 2, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe someone on here (Lee) actually said it would be a civil rights violation if the superdelegates overturn the will of the voters. Do we need civics lessons for the Obamatrons now? Political parties set their own rules, any rules they want. Look up some of the third parties online -- there are too many to count. They can vote, gerrymander, dictate, use a magic 8 ball to pick their candidates. To be more clear -- look at the Republikans who use a winner take all system. Its not about your rights in a political party. Its a party, and a dog fight for what you believe in and what you will put up with (don't like the rules, walk out -- its been done, and effectively). By the way, neither candidate has hit the magic number to lock the nomination that was supposed to tell us they had obtained the WILL of the PEOPLE, probably due to the messy rules of the DNC (proportionalism, gerrymandered apportionment, not countin voters in FL and MI due to an inability to solve a silly primary problem) -- so the WILL of the PEOPLE is not really that clear is it now?

Posted by: pgc | May 2, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

I can just see that telecom meeting with the genius running the call: "do we have any DNC bigwigs with our campaign?" Long pause, "yea, sure we do." Another long pause, "Well, --who?" -- "us, ourselves." "really?" "Sure, we will endorse ourselves again and tell the world that we are DNC bigwigs, right? --right!"

Posted by: terrt | May 2, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

JakeD: You may recall I [lylepink] was the one that found the Repub strategy of changing Registration and voting for Obama in the non X-Over states in their all out effort to stop Hillary from getting the Dem nomination at any cost/price based on the "FEAR" Factor that most Repubs pretty well KNOW they cannot beat Hillary in the GE, and I cannot stress this point in a more meaningful way. The joke by Rush came months later. Read my 4:05PM Post and it will give you an idea of what I am talking about.

Posted by: lylepink | May 2, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

GO HILLARY! AND TAKE BILL WITH YOU!

Posted by: Charles U. Farley | May 2, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Do you think she can win if 96% of African-Americans vote for McCain?
that is not going to happen, African-Americans love clinton if no Obama

Posted by: YJ | May 2, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Obama peaked about a year ago for me. When I watched his votes I lost interest. He peaked for most others about 2 months ago and will lose the general election because there is not much substantive experience to overcome the negatives. The slogans and logos arent enough.

Posted by: hhkeller | May 2, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

The Other Jake:

Do you think she can win if 96% of African-Americans vote for McCain?

Posted by: JakeD | May 2, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

2012 was a very good year

for peace and unity

and President OBAMA

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

ONCE he gets the hispanic plus white plus black vote

and 10 point push from winning

The GOP will be in rebuilding and blaming mode again

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Henry:

Are you a U.S. citizen?

Debra:

The big downside to that gamble, however, is that Clinton could still win.

Posted by: JakeD | May 2, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Wright was like an uncle to Obama in March and in April, Wright is an enemy to him. What made Obama changed his mind so fast? Well, his excuse will be he has too since he is under pressure. Do we need a president who changes mind when under pressure?

Posted by: YJ | May 2, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Its not hate


Its for SURVIVAL that can't have OBAMA

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Obama in 12
Hillary NOW!!

Posted by: Jake | May 2, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

NET OBAMA PICKED 500,000

if add IL AND NY

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans don't stand much of a chance of winning this year. I think it would be in the republicans interest if they get out and vote for Clinton. I didn't realise until last night that they really hate Obama

Posted by: Debra | May 2, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

The Democratic race is long time far from facts. It appears to me more and more an American Idol. No one is asking for any Resume of Obama , If Obama would apply for any serious job it would be very obvious he has to show his resume and a good number of achievements. It seems to me the Obligation as a President of our country is less important otherwise there is no explanation that this Gentleman could come that far. In no Central European state he would even get 10 % of the votes. Does all this mean we can permit any one to run, give him 100 Million USD and let him be the president regardless what his character is, what his history is and what his resume shows. I honestly feel sorry for our country and especially for the future of the Democratic Party.

One thing is for sure if Obama gets the nomination the GOP will and MUST win
To prevent this empty shell from winning.

Posted by: Henry | May 2, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

What do Bill Clinton and Popular vote have in common?

Neither help Gore WIN

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Ann:

Didn't more people vote for her in New York than voted for him in Illinois?

Posted by: JakeD | May 2, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Victory 286 delegates

408 elected delegates remain
273 Supers uncommitted 213 current 60 to be selected
681 Total Delegates to remain

286 OR 1739 OF 2025 Obama vs.
420 of 2025 Clinton

GO IU GO BALLSTATE
GO PURDUE BOILERMAKERS

KELLY STUDENTS

ENGINEERS

NORTE DAME

GO OBAMA

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

That Colbert skit with Donna Brazile was HILLARY-ous!!!

Posted by: JakeD | May 2, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

I read an interesting analysis last week... to really get a complete picture of the popular vote, count all votes for each candidates including Fl and MI as well as caucus voters. Now, subtract all votes from NY and IL for both Sen Obama and Sen Clinton. The reason for this exercise is to see who really has the popular vote total when the huge disparities in home states are subtracted.

Right now Hillary has the most popular votes. If you take out the home states and show what the other 48 states think of the candidates, her lead increases dramatically.

Posted by: Ann | May 2, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

But I have those

SPECIAL SUNGLASSES THE COLBERT REPORT SELLS

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

I only SEE PEACEFUL UNRACIAL PEOPLE

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Go Obama!!

Posted by: ak312 | May 2, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Why so much anger in all of these blogs?

It's interesting to see how many people feel others are idiots for not seeing it their way.

By the way, if you're one of the 15% that thinks Obama is a Muslim please stop blogging. Using excuses (inexperience, Rev. Wright, too liberal) just mask your real reasons.

Also, HRC winning by 10 points is considered significant. Yet, where we she be without the prejudiced voters?

PA exit poll tells a lot. Obama did well with those where race and gender didn't matter.

About one in five voters said the race of the candidates was among the top factors in their vote. About as many said that about the candidates' gender. White voters who said race was a factor supported Clinton over Obama by 3-to-1, while whites who said race wasn't a factor divided between Clinton and Obama more evenly. But race and gender played out as factors in very different ways, with Obama's race apparently a negative for him among white voters, while Clinton's gender was a positive factor for her among men and women who said it contributed to their votes. Those who said gender was a factor actually tended to favor Clinton, while Obama did better among those who said gender was not a factor.

Posted by: jdmac3ct | May 2, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Americans are so wild and crazy (California by Red HOT Chilli peppers so good)

bush might get re-elected if he could

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Hussain is common

I know a good guy at Procter and Gamble IT division with that name

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Are you SURE there were no Operation Operatives in California, for instance?

Posted by: JakeD | May 2, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

but the kids our ours (I think)

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

OK operation

Chaos was during last 7 states or 1,000,000

new voters

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Tom C:

I am not lying. Please stop lying about that.

Posted by: JakeD | May 2, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

charlieb:

Does President Clinton (or you) think she can will if 96% of African-Americans vote for McCain?

Posted by: JakeD | May 2, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

JakeD: stop lying.

Any time an Obama opponent makes a point of naming Barack Hussein Obama's middle name, it has one intent, and one intent only: to sow fear and mistrust. After all, "Hussein... isn't that the bad guy we went into Iraq to get? OMGRUN!" and "Hussein... that sounds kinda ferrin' don't it??"

Are you going to post links to Obama in tribal gear, next?

How's Operation Chaos treating you, JakeD? Limbaugh congratulated you personally yet?

Posted by: Tom C | May 2, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Hillary for VP

go OBAMA

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

criss:

Please see my post to Tilly.

Anonymous at 4:12 PM:

How many of those new Democrat registrations are part of Operations CHAOS or will vote for McCain in November?

Posted by: JakeD | May 2, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Go Hillary!!! President Clinton is right, the reason they want Senator Clinton out is that she can win!!!!!

Posted by: charlieb | May 2, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

McCain will send Obama to Guantanamo Prison! LOL


NO to Obama in 2008

Posted by: Rafael | May 2, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

GOP loses -2,000,000 since

2004

NET + 12,000,000

maybe 45% now think?
to 32%

Go OBAMA

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Tilly:

I did not emphasize Obama's middle name as an insult -- I just like to impart little-known facts -- for instance, did you know that HUSSEIN means "handsome" in Arabic? I'm not afraid of middle names. Are you ashamed of his middle name? At least I didn't MAKE UP names like "McBush" or "McBomb".

BTW: my middle name is "MOORE" -- why is that relevant -- what's yours?

Posted by: JakeD | May 2, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

10,000,000

new registered Voters

Since 2004 for Dems

32% GOP
43% DEM

plus

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Barack HUSSEIN Obama??

who cares about his name
hes the best candidate and i like his name you people need somethin better

Posted by: criss | May 2, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

= =
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= OBAMA IS JUST TOO MUCH DRAMA =
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Posted by: Rafael | May 2, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

As a registered Democrat and a lifelong Democratic voter, I think I say this with credibility, and sadness: we're done.

The Republicans -- well, specifically the Bush flavor of neocons -- are lying, vote-pandering, rapacious, evil people. But we Dems can't get our sh*t together enough to fight them. Even during the most unpopular presidency (Republican presidency) *ever recorded*.

I don't think that the problem is Clinton (although I'll be honest: I just don't like her) or Obama. I think the problem is that we can't stop our stupid, internecine infighting long enough to confront the real problems ahead of us.

So very sad.

Posted by: Tom C | May 2, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Was John McCAin

born before


Country MUsic?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Ok. here's what Im scares me about Hillary..

Bill Clinton alone in the WH doing nothing? with our 19-yr-old daughters? What was he thinking sleeping around with interns?

Bill Clinton making deals with Colombians on behalf of them and not us via NAFTA that he helped create! At least the Colombians gives him $800,000!!! What about us?

Hillary Clinton covering up Bill's sexual and financial indulgences? Please!

Hillary fighting with House and Senate Democrats? Please!

Democrats losing the Congress again? Please!

Hillary "obliterating" Iran, Oh! for heavens sake - she can't even think of a way out of Iraq already after sending us in in the first place!

Hillary lying about being under sniper fire in Bosnia and then falling asleep when the red phone rings about "real" fires in Iraq!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Go Obama!!!!

Posted by: Allison | May 2, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

PUERTO RICO WILL BE THE 51ST STATE OF THIS GREAT UNION.


PR51

Posted by: Rafael | May 2, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Hey Chris, thanks for the link to the Clinton V. Paul trial, awesome. Clintons make history again...

NEWS FLASH: Earlier today...President Hillary Clinton pardoned herself and husband Bill Clinton! She charged Bill $800,000. The President did not charge herself for the pardon.

Posted by: Very Conerned | May 2, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Grow up.
There are reasons she is doing so well. She is supported by people who know how to choose a President. Not by people who blow in the wind on the perceived good tail winds of others.
You people go back to your My Space page and your celebrity magazines. You, like your candidate, need some more seasoning.

Posted by: nana | May 2, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

So what's worse..to be fooled by a pastor that you thought was a good man but maybe wasnt or to be fooled by a moron of a president into supporting a war that cost thousands of lives. Hillary's supporters talk about judgement..whatever

Posted by: markinsa | May 2, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

I am Uncle Sam
Thats who I am
I've been hiding out in a Rock and Roll Band


Waive that FLAG

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Oh please hillary - you can contest all the remaining primaries and caucuses but please don;t play such desperate politics! BTW why is Bill disparaging the caucus states?? sore losers

Posted by: lisa | May 2, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone really think if these tapes had come out before the primary started that he would have won the states that he has?Since the tapes have come out she has won everyone and will probaly win the rest also....The super delegates better think about that before they jump on a bandwagon thats going to crash in nov.if they get on or stay on the bandwagon.Howard Dean says the democrats will unite after the promary....He's as wrong about that as he was about Michigan and Florida.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Either Clinton or Obama can easily beat Republican McSame Bush McCain. Is Hilary seriously suggesting that NY and CA are going to go Republican just because she tied up the power brokers she's known for years and "won" in those states? The Republicans have screwed up this country, they aren't getting elected in '08. The choice is between the divisiveness of the past or the future. America always picks the future.

Posted by: thebob.bob | May 2, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Hillary will win the GE. Obama will lose the GE. That is what this nomination means and is about, and has been my opinion from the start. The Clinton's, be it Bubba or Hillary, have many enemines in the Dem Party, most of them are on the "Far Left Wing" of the party, and are not traditional Dems as most of us in the middle consider ourselves. Many of these, Daily Kos, Huffington Post, and The Nation Magazine, among others, are the "Fringe" bordering on "Communist and Socialist" views. Most of these groups are in what I call my "Envy/Jealous" and "Hate" Factors.

Posted by: lylepink | May 2, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

How can this not be good for the party? It is good that Clinton is staying in to the end because millions of new voters are becoming empassioned with the election process and will vote for the first time. This broadens the Democratic base and gives a better chance of winning all future elections. Obama wants to disinfrancise voters and that is what will hurt the Democratic party in the end for years afterwards.

Posted by: 1paperclip | May 2, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

This long race has NOT been DIVISIVE.
This long race has NOT been DIVISIVE.
This long race has NOT been DIVISIVE.
This long race has NOT been DIVISIVE.
This long race has NOT been DIVISIVE.

Posted by: secondwynd | May 2, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

It's good for the Democratic Party, because it's trying to nominate the candidate with the best chance of beating McCain in the general election. How does it HELP the Democratic Party to field a loser? Obama's weakness in the big states and large groups of voters will sink him against McCain. Not to mention, his DRAMA distracts from actual issues.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

LOL - I find it very telling that the respondent who stoops so low as to emphasize Obama's middle name as an insult does not have the integrity to leave a name behind.

It only stands to reason that the small minority of Americans who actually fear a middle name are also too cowardly to admit it candidly!

Classy move!

Posted by: Tilly | May 2, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Victory 286 delegates

408 elected delegates remain
273 Supers uncommitted 213 current 60 to be selected
681 Total Delegates to remain

286 OR 1739 OF 2025 Obama vs.
420 of 2025 Clinton

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

LOL! :-D

All the Obamabots don't get it, and Billary cannot overcome it!

The Dimocrats are STUCK with "Barry"! :-D

LMFAO! It is too late! :-D

Hey Dimocrats! FYI-It was Kennedy, Lurch, Reid, Pelosi, Daschle, and one or two others who SET YOU UP!

AGAIN!

LOL! :-D

How did Dubya get elected anyway?

Gore, then Lurch.

Now "Barry"! :-D

Posted by: RAT-The | May 2, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

What has the Democrats in the House and Senate done to lower the gas prices?

NOTHING

Posted by: Rafael | May 2, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

PUERTO RICO IS FOR CLINTON!

GO CLINTON BRING STATEHOOD FOR PUERTO RICO!

Posted by: Puerto Rico figthers for Statehood 51 | May 2, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Same folks, different package.

Posted by: Judy | May 2, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

PUERTO RICO IS FOR CLINTON!

PR51

Posted by: Rafael | May 2, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

What comes out now about Obama, it is nothing compared to the "Clinton baggage!" It will so much easier for Obama to deal with the Wright matter when facing John McCain in the fall, because McCain will have to answer for John Hagee too!!! so yes, Obama has to deal with Wright AND McCain has to deal with HAGEE! and I think Obama has dealt brilliantly with this issue - he can face it beautifully in the future - should it reappear. But we will be waiting to land with HAGEE for McCain!

By the way, who wants to deal with Clinton's 1990s baggage AGAIN? Please Democrats, give us a break!

Go OBAMA08! OBAMA! OBAMA!

Posted by: tintin08 | May 2, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

sooner1:

I just wanted to make sure you knew, that's all.

Posted by: JakeD | May 2, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Obamas Cabinett:

Rev. Wright for VP
Henry Ayers for Homeland Security Director
Michell Obama for Race Adviser to Obama
George Soros As the Fed Chairman
Michael Moore for Secretary Of State
Ted Kennedy for Secratary of Justice
Al Franken IRS Director
John Kerry US Ambassador to Vietnam
Keith Olberman WH Press Secretary


Sceary!!! ?

Posted by: Rafael | May 2, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Dear DNC... We would also like to sale you some of this Snake Oil which comes two for the price of one.

Additionally, if you would consider Sen. Clinton rather than go with the will of the People, we will support your initiative to form a collation for independent voters, as we are aware that the DNC will no longer have any form of creditability or respect among more than 65% of it's registered voters.

What Idiots!

Posted by: puddlescited | May 2, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, Jim and Martine Caldwell : )

Posted by: JakeD | May 2, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

LETS GET TOGETHER AND CHANGE THE RULES DEMS

NO SUPERS

NO CAUCUSES

and HOW DO WE DEAL WITH OPERATION

chaos - ?

leave prescribtion drugs on the ground by RUSH's CAR?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

sometimes people are dumb and idiotic or just blatantly ignorant. the dems have this rule that the superdelegates can vote to whatever they pleases. they are part of the electoral process. please, stop saying that the superdelegates will overturn the results of the primaries. they are part of the process. if they think that voting for the other is good for the party and the country then so be it. will everybody please stop threatening the superdelegates as if they are to abide on the reults of the primaries else, just throw away the superdelegates and do away the convention.

Posted by: jaime | May 2, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Of course I know that McCain supports the silly gas holiday; he came up with the idea. How does that make Hillary any better? They both pander, but McCain is not Clinton. Read The Nightingale Song and see that McCain has character, is independent, and is not the type to sell favors for political support. And yes, I know about the Keaton seven or whatever, but that is not pardoning fugitives for money. Hillary, go away, go away.

Posted by: sooner1 | May 2, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

I'm voting for Hillary in Charlotte, NC, after supporting Obama for a year. I will always love Obama, but there is no way he is ready for the job of President.

He has proven that to me.

Posted by: Martine Caldwell | May 2, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

All delegates obtained in caucuses should not be allowed. Caucuses are not a democratic process but a process where you are harressed into supporting someone you would rather not support. You cannot vote in privacy and can be intimidated into voting for someone you would not normally support.

Voting in the privacy of a voting booth is the American way, not this gang meeting process called caucuses. A minority of the electorate vote in caucuses and they get the same amount of delegates. What a farce.

Posted by: Jim | May 2, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Obama is W after a race change operation.

NO THANKS!

Posted by: Obama in'16 | May 2, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Go Dems!! =)! What a way to earn the nomination instead of walking right to it!

Go Obama! Thank you Mr. Kirk!

United '08

Posted by: Obama2008 | May 2, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Can it be any more obvious.

GO HILLARY

Posted by: Anthony | May 2, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

To JakeD:

I do not trust Wikipedia. My next dog can post entries, just as have high school cheerleaders. The contributors need not support anything they say, and often they do not support their propositions, and s9ometimes they write "authority needed." I have encountered entries that state blatantly false or dangerously ambiguous propositions concerning chemistry, which is not a realm of uncertainty.

But I confess I did not research the matter of the duration of Andrew's Chairmanship. I relied on Balz's language: "Joe Andrew, who led the DNC during the Clinton presidency...." Perhaps Balz's language was sloppy. But by asserting that Andrew "led the DNC during the Clinton presidency" and not modifying the assertion with terms like "some of" or "part of" (as if "some of the Clinton presidency"), Balz implies, necessarily, that Andrew "led the DNC" through all of the Clinton presidency. Also, the term "led" is ambiguous. It can mean hold a leadership position of any kind, not just Chair of the DNC.

But all this is irrelevant. The pertinent matter is the instelligence-insulting sleaze of the latest Clinton trick of producing that letter signed by previous Clinton supporters, the Clinton campaign manager, and a dead man's "family." That is a sleazy trick -- and blatantly such -- even if Andrew was DNC Chair for only thirty days of the Clinton Presidency. It typifies the slime and lying of Hillary and Billy-boy, who are the glibbest liars and biggest sleaze-bags of US politics.

And Hillary is Dick Cheney after a sex-change operation.

Posted by: loup-bouc | May 2, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Message to Sen. Obama...

Since you don't look good in lipstick and nylons, "Give it UP..."

Dude, don't go away mad, just go away.

After 20 years with a man that officiated your marriage, baptized your children, provided you with "spiritual advise" and preached racial hatred and bigotry of which you claim that you had never heard or had knowledge of... P-L-E-A-S-E!

Spare me the rest of the story...

Posted by: Randy | May 2, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Sooner1:

You realize that John SIDNEY McCAIN supports the "silly" gas holiday too, right?

Posted by: JakeD | May 2, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

I have voted for the Democratic nominee for president in every election since the second Stevenson/Eisenhower election in 1956. But I tell you, if Hillary Clinton manages to wrest the nomination away from Obama, I am for McCain. She is becoming the most hated woman in America, and she deserves it. We have Clinton fatigue, have seen enough of his Mark Rich pardons, his fundraising for his damn library, and their failure to release their latest income tax returns. And the silly gas holiday with a $30 to $50 "windfall" for automobile drivers is the latest pander.

Posted by: Sooner1 | May 2, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse


OBAMA is WINNING with LOVE/HOPE.

CLINTONS taking it away in "EASY PATH" of HATE/RACISM.

Posted by: kg | May 2, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Thanks again to the left wing of our party...the Democrat Party... is going to fumble another Prez election...I hold the far left responsible (Nader supporters...now Obama) for the disaster that has been GW Bush. Obama is unelectable in the general ...UNELECTABLE! Blue collar mid amercian voters will not support him after the Wright incident...get it through your head! We have to win in states like Ohio, Michigan, Florida, Penn., and Missouri. Mark my words...Obama cannot carry one of those states against McCain.

Posted by: Robert | May 2, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

If you haven't realized it yet, it is all part of a carefully thought out campaign.. Hillary will be the nominee in the end.

Posted by: KsFirefighter | May 2, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse


WHY DEMOCRATS want to GIVE AWAY their TICKET to REPUBLICAN in DEMOCRAT MASK HILLARY?

There are people VOTING. Does that matter?

30 States for Obama and 15 for Hillary.

Even in that 15, She manipulated VOTERS in 8 by ROBO CALLS.

Posted by: kg | May 2, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Gee, what a "surprise" it is that Terry McAuliffe, who is Clinton's campaign chairman, and Ed Rendell, who is a major player in her campaign in PA and nationally, are deciding to endorse her. Frankly, the vast majority of ex-DNC chairs support Hillary because these people are the very same, old, tired slash-and-burn "politics as usual" gang that Barack Obama is trying to overturn. Senator Obama has always said it wouldn't be easy to replace the lobbyist-driven special interests and old-style politicians who have given us polarization and partisan gridlock in Washington. The fact that these guys have endorsed Hillary, another lobbyist-funded old-style, divisive politician who will give us only more of the same, makes perfect sense. Of the former DNC chairs, only Joe Andrew, who knows the Clintons and their old-style politics as well as anyone and is tired of the old Kabuki dance of political drama, had the courage to do the right thing for this country and endorse Obama.

Posted by: Staton Rabin | May 2, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse


Here is information that is not reported in the news. I wonder if they know about this.

Case Number: BC304174
https://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/CivilCaseSummary/index.asp

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7007109937779036019&pr=goog-sl

Posted by: Chris | May 2, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Mason:

Actually, the Chairs / members of the Credentials Committee have already been named and are "officially" neutral.

http://www.demconvention.com/dnc-elects-standing-committee-leadership-for-2008-democratic-national-convention-2/

Posted by: JakeD | May 2, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

its so over
its so over
its so over
it is so over

even O'Really and Hannuty
said so

287 to go OBAMA

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Here is information that is not reported in the news. I wonder if they know about this.

https://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/CivilCaseSummary/index.asp

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7007109937779036019&pr=goog-sl

Posted by: Chris | May 2, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

FYI JakeD
The credentials committee belongs to the Candidate with the most PDs.

Remember: Get informed, Engage Brain, Then speak.

Posted by: Mason | May 2, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Really impressive. These are all Bill Clinton folks who magically stayed with Hillary and Bill rather than switch. And the story is what? She was able to NOT lose any more DNC chairs that were formerly committed to her. Desperate girly.

Posted by: Debra | May 2, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

The superdelegates "CANNOT" and "WILL NOT" over turn the will of the voters. If Sen. Clinton cannot take the lead by all counts in delegates, that mean the people of this country does not want her as the president. If the superdelegates somehow over turn the will of the voters it will be a civil right violation, and you better believe there are people who is watching.

Posted by: Lee | May 2, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

OOOps

286 vs 420 delegates to go

TO Victory OBAMA

681 delegates 408 elected to go

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

So its now 287 vs 423 to 2025

very interesting

Go OBAMA

you can do it


BUT NEVER LISTEN AND GEORGES (BUSH

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse


Gloria Y. Fredericks your petty bias with a vote for McCain will guarantee the
continued slaughter of our young women and
men in Iraq and maybe Iran. Wake up and smell the coffee. It is voters of similar
values who elected our disaster, George Bush.

Posted by: Alice Ropchan | May 2, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse


Gloria Y. Fredericks your petty bias with a vote for McCain will guarantee the
continued slaughter of our young women and
men in Iraq and maybe Iran. Wake up and smell the coffee. It is voters of similar
values who elected our disaster, George Bush.

Posted by: Alice Ropchan | May 2, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

This would be a good time to show the picture of Ed Rendell praising Louis Farrakhan.

Posted by: Ron | May 2, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Gloria, totally agree with you, great comment.

Does anyone care that if Hillary wins the whole thing...she will have to testify at a campaign fraud trial involving her and Bill. The President of the United States of America....in court for fraud! We have our first pre-presidential drama, brought to you by the Clintons. What are we thinking taking her seriuously? Has the country lost the plot or what?????

Enough.

Posted by: Very Concerned | May 2, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

FYI Gloria:

The Credentials Committee will have to resolve the issue at the Convention -- if it's not resolved by then -- if they count Florida and Michigan, she already is ahead in the total popular vote by 121,615 votes.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

Posted by: JakeD | May 2, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Senator Clinton and her supporters are looking for a needle in a haystack. Imagine if the shoe were on the other foot, with her having under her belt the most states, the popular votes, and the most delegates would she have acknowleged her opponent who won the least number of states, less delegate support, fewer of the popular votes, but SOME of the big states? What is wrong with Senator Clinton? She is taking credit for breaking the party rules with which she agreed to comply. Is that playing by the rules? The DNC as well as the Clinton organization must be aware of the rift that will result from the unfair argument they are putting forth. Is POWER more important to them than the well being of the party and by extention, the racial divide that WILL not MAY occur? I have heard it said that the voters will come together when all the venom, hatred, indifference, spiteful, and slanderous speeches, accusations, innuendos, and the like are over. I DOUBT IT VERY STRONGLY. I am totally turned of from politics as a whole, and have concluded that if our candidates have to stoop so low, wallow in the mud, and render themselves so ridiculous to win an election under the guise of "representing all the people" then it is not worth my time and energy to go to the polls and vote for these persons who lack character, integrity, truthfulness and trustworthiness. So Super Delegates, sign all you want, you are turning the voters off big time. And if I a lifelong Democrat do indeed go to the polls, guess what? I AND SO FAR ABOUT FOUR HUNDRED OF US WILL be voting for the Republican John McCain. This is not a threat, it is a promise. There appears to be no olive branch in the Democratic political climate. How pityful.

Posted by: Gloria Y. Fredericks | May 2, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Ron Brown (1989-1993) not sure if he resigned before taking Cabinet post
David Wilhelm (1993-1994)
Debra DeLee (1994-1995)
Christopher J. Dodd (1995-1997)
Donald Fowler (1995-1997)
Roy Romer (1997-1999)
Steven Grossman (1997-1999)
Edward G. Rendell (1999-2001)
Joseph Andrew (1999-2001)
Terrence R. McAuliffe (2001-2005) I think it was after Clinton left office that McAuliffe assumed DNC Chair.

Clinton Presidency (1993-2001) R.I.P.

Posted by: JakeD | May 2, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

loup-bouc:

Joe Andrew was DNC Chair only at the very end of the Clinton Presidency (1999-2001). Ron Brown was indeed the first Chairman under the Clinton Presidency.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_National_Committee#DNC_National_Chairpersons

Posted by: JakeD | May 2, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Is it just me or does these people in the letter supporting Hillary seem a lot lot smarter than the ones supporting Obamacaca?she doesn't have a Judus one on a Nerd Judus two either.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Facts are a stubborn thing. Obama cannot close his 20 year old relationship with Wright because there is so much video evidence against it. On the TV program THE VIEW, Obama declared that Reverend Wright accepted that his view were inappropriate and mischaracterized. That it had offended many people. Then weeks later Wright goes on a national Hate America Press Tour? This was a blatant lie. Or worse, Obama was fooled by Wright which is kind of scary. That a possible next president can be played by a character such as Wright. Check the video evidence yourselves. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6J7yJ9R5p0

Posted by: Leanza Cornett | May 2, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

The pro-Clinton letter (the Ed Rendell, Terry McAuliffe, Don Fowler, Kenneth Curtis, Charles Manatt, Debra DeLee, Steven Grossman, and dead Ron Brown's family letter) insults the intelligence of everyone who has, and uses, some intelligence -- especially the "signature" of the Ron Brown family, which was not ever a NDC Chair and begs the question of just who "signed" (second cousins, new-born babes, and dead great grandmothers too)? The others include not only previously declared Clinton supporters but also Clinton's campaign manager. Did her campaign manager go into a trance yesterday and discover that actually his heart supported Hillary and that he would vote for her?

Joe Andrew's defection was a very different matter. Andrew was DNC Chair during the entire Clinton presidency, and Andrew did not only announce that he supports Obama, but he defected from the Clinton camp -- decided that he could not continue to support Hillary because (like her hubby Bill Clinton) she is a slime-bag and the national good required he (Andrew) and the Dem Party support Obama. (Yes Andrew said that not Hillary, but her campaign was slime, but Hillary is her campaign, and her campaign is Hillary).

But, alas, Obama (or his campaign, made the very stupid mistake of throwing in the fact that Paul G. Kirk, Jr., another DNC Chair. supports Obama -- as if Kirk had announced his support yesterday, though he had published his support in February. That trick was blatantly cheap as Hillary's getting a few previous supporters, her Campaign manager, and a dead man's "family" to write a recommendation letter for he. I hope Obama was not personally responsible for such stupidity. I hope more that Obama chews out his staff and starts requiring that his staff not publish anything for his campaign unless he approves it first.

Posted by: loup-bouc | May 2, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Way to go Howling Dean! :-D

Make CERTAIN those patient Last States and Territories don't get any say!

While Punishing Floridians and Michiganders for trying to move THEIR Primaries up!

Hey! All you Disenfranchised "Old School" Democrats!

Welcome, to the BIG TENT! Have WE got a RINO for YOU! ;~)

Posted by: RAT-The | May 2, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

AJ:

No thanks -- Barack HUSSEIN Obama will not be sworn in as President on January 20, 2009 -- for the record, I am a registered Independent, not Republican, and member of Operation CHAOS ; )

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Whatever JakeD! You can take off your Democratic costume. We all now you are a Republican operating in Limbaugh's "OPERATION CHAOS".

Hillary could win all (although very unlikely) the remaining voting contests by margin of 30pts over Obama and still not be ahead of him in the pledged delegate count.

JakeD...say it with me over and over again:

obama, Obama, OBama, OBAma, OBAMa, OBAMA!

The more you said the better it sounds!

Posted by: AJ | May 2, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

We get how Hillary's staying in the race is good for the Clintons and other people with close personal ties to the Clintons who stand to personally gain if she were elected. But how is this good for the Party?

(And by Party I mean the Democratic Party, not the Clinton Party. Just to be clear.)

Posted by: Lisa8 | May 2, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

GO HILLARY (all the way to Denver)!!!

Posted by: JakeD | May 2, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

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