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In NY, Clinton Makes Concessions

By Perry Bacon Jr.
NEW YORK -- Appearing with supporters at a fundraiser in New York City, Hillary Clinton finished her speech by imploring them: "Let's keep going. Stay with me. This has been a great adventure -- let's make history."

At the same time, her speech held some hints that another Democratic candidate might be the one who makes that history. Running through a list of issues, such as the high cost of college, that the next president will need to fix, she said, "All of this is much bigger than my candidacy. It is really about what we're going to stand for and what agenda our next president will have."

While Clinton again questioned how the "Democratic nominee" could be someone who in her view does not propose a universal health care program, she phrased the goal in a way that sounded like it could happen without the leadership of New York's junior senator moving to the Oval Office.

"This is, for me, is not an issue -- it's a passion and it goes way beyond my candidacy," Clinton said. "I'm hoping under the leadership of Charlie Rangel, we will pass out of Congress a universal health care bill." Congressman Rangel was attending the event.

As she has over the last few days, Clinton talked about how the party will soon be united.

"We're going to finish this nominating contest -- which we will do -- then we will have a nominee and we will have a unified Democratic Party, will stand together, defeat John McCain in November and go on to the White House," Clinton said.

Clinton is still hoping to be that nominee. Her schedule includes three events tomorrow in West Virginia, where, in a campaign stop on Friday, her husband talked about a possible way for her strengthen her case with superdelegates.

"You have to realize that if you show up in enough numbers, and your neighbors in Kentucky do, and we have a good run through the rest of these states," former president Clinton said in Madison, W. Va. on Friday. "We gotta have your help and get the largest number of people to show up on election day. See all this stuff you are hearing about is an attempt to discourage you. That's what this is, pure and simple, hoping, well, Hillary can get eighty percent of the vote in West Virginia, and if only 100,000 people show up it is not enough. But if 600,000 people show up, and you say, 'We want a president,' then you will see the earth move. You can do it."

At the Mother's Day fundraiser at the Sheraton here, the former first lady was introduced by her daughter Chelsea, but also by her longtime ally, Rangel, who defended her standing the race and poked fun at the press.

"There are so many reporters out there and they keep asking me the same basic questions as though they went to a school to see how do we can embarrass Hillary Clinton. The latest one is 'When is she going to quit?'" he said. "And I ask the question: When in the history of this country in the world did winners quit?"

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Throughout the long campaign, Hillary Clinton excelled at issues involving women and children. Her resumed championing of health care reform after the disappointment of her earlier attempt in 1993-4 emphasized universality, but the need she rightly defined was most palpable as regards women and children. She stressed pink-collar jobs, with single-parent women in the spotlight. Her experience reinforces her interest in the plight of women and children. In my opinion, foreign policy did not prove to be her strong suit any more than a gas-tax vacation turned out to be her glory.

If Ms. Clinton is not interested in running and then probably serving as Obama's VP ticket-mate, perhaps she will consider carving out a special role, while continuing as a leader in the Senate, to better yet serve the constituency to which she has demonstrated her special dedication. For instance, she has shown her eagerness to see more than one thorny issue addressed (Social Security reform comes to mind, though immigration demands change) by way of a commission to study before acting. Such a commission she might ask to head, if indeed she is not invited to do so.

But as she contemplates her future, many options remain open and other possibilities stand ripe for her initiation. (She might want to consider serving as Governor of New York, for instance.) She will always be a formidable person as well as having demonstrated that she was a "formidable" candidate. It remains for her abundant talents to be matched with an appropriate part or parts as a public servant.

Posted by: FirstMouse | May 12, 2008 8:13 AM | Report abuse

Why does the Bush/Rove "talking points" media machine want so desperately to kill off Hillary? Because they don't want America to see that Bush/Rove is behind this Obama "victory." Look at the tens of thousands of right wing Republicans who are crossing over like sheep to vote for a black man.

Has the GOP suddenly turned into a bunch of liberals or is there something more insidious going on here? Have George Bush and his under the table/man behind the curtain Karl Rove somehow noticed the obvious. The "decisive" middle of the road Americans WON'T vote for an ex-cocaine using African American who has the Youtubable politically incorrect minister from hell.

If you are counting, that's three political strikes right down the middle for Obama in November and Bush/Rove know it. Their fingerprints are all over Obama's narrow lead. If you need evidence look at the Iowa primary. Twice as many people voted in the Democratic primary in Iowa than the Republican primary. Iowa is basically an evenly divided Democratic to Republican state, yet huge numbers of Republicans went to the significant trouble of registering Democratic or independent in order to vote for Obama.

Understand, Obama does not have to be aware of this GOP cheating scam for him to benefit from it. He may be living in a "fools paradise." As far as I'm concerned, Obama is a good man and would make a fine President. The problem is "he simply can't win!"

Here's an interesting question; Why isn't the media beating up on Obama for his established cocaine use? They were all over Bill Clinton for his "not inhaled" weed from start to finish! Is Karl Rove and his right wing media company saving that one up for the fall? Once Obama is nominated will we get Rove's million dollar bumper sticker "Clinton didn't inhale, Obama did!"

It all sounds like an organized Bush/Rove effort to me. The boys who stole the White House in 2000 and 2004 are up to their dirty work again. Using amongst other things their traditional "stuff the absentee ballot box" techniques of 2000 and 2004, Bush/Rove have almost succeeded in sticking the Democrats with a sure loser in November.

Do you need more evidence? What happened in the South Carolina Demo primary? The Day Before the election, Obama, Clinton and Edwards were polled to be in a close race. Somehow, on election day, the results were Obama 55%, Clinton 24% and John Edwards 11%. Simple math makes this look impossible. From a near three-way dead-heat to a massive landslide overnight. Smells like George and Karl sent their boys out to stuff those southern ballot boxes again.

They actually subtracted thousands of votes from Edwards total like they obviously did in the Alabama governors race in 2002. (North Carolina's John Edwards would shoot a big hole in the Republican's "southern strategy" so as far as the "Rove Brothers" were concerned, Edwards "had to go!")

So all these media "Obama backers" seeking "a quick end" to Hillary Clinton are just working another Republican cheating game. They want it over before it can be investigated. Before the flaws in their cheating work can be spotted.

Let's take this race all the way to the convention in August! There's nothing more exciting than a state by state delegate count to determine the future of the planet. Why is the media so blatantly trying to prevent a great media event? Are they afraid of being caught red handed between now and the convention?

One thing about an Obama nomination is certain! Come that chilly November evening, Democrats of all races and genders everywhere will be hanging their heads in bitter defeat and wondering "why in the world did we nominate an African-American, ex-cocaine using man with a minister from youtubable politically-incorrect-hell as our presidential candidate." The answer will "eventually" come back, "We didn't nominate Obama! Bush and Rove did!"

A Vigilant Democrat

Posted by: Jim Rodriguez | May 11, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Everybody. Just leave Hillary alone. She needs time to detox, to wind down. She needs to just keep running and running and running until we all realize that not only is she not the presidential nominee, sne should not be on the VP ticket as well. Bill Clinton pretty much underminded Hillary. The two Clintons together will undermine Obama's campaign. If by chance this so called dream ticket of Obama and Clinton won the White House, Obama would have to sleep with one eye open. He's have to hide all the knives and he's have to send his daughters away to keep them from Bill Clinton
Hillary is looking to get her debt retired. I am on a fixed income and whatever contributions I made to Obama was a real sacrifice. I don't want one dime of that money going to Hillary.
She managed to get her legal fees taken care of when she left the White House before. She's get this taken care of plus some. But. not on my dime.

Posted by: npeebles | May 11, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

She claims that it's not about her candidacy, but about who the next president is in order to solve the health care problem and high costs of college. I'd really like to see if, once she drops out, this universal health care plan is really going to be pursed with such dogged determination that she's giving it now.

Because she hasn't done anything in her time in the Senate to solve it, but it's been in the spotlight during the campaign of course.

Posted by: GregB | May 11, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

It's almost incredible to think about, when you consider what constitutes an "experience" edge in this election. The elder George Bush, by the time he ran for re-election, had been president for four years; vice president for eight; ambassador to the UN for two years; de facto ambassador to China for two; Congressman for four; director of the CIA for one year; plus former head of the Republican National Committee, decorated combat pilot, and commander in chief during one brief hot war and the end of the prolonged Cold War. Moreover, in his "3 a.m." moments of real crisis, he had used his experience to make sane decisions: handling the collapse of the Soviet empire, standing up against Saddam Hussein, putting together a wartime coalition so broad and supportive that the United States may have actually made money on the Gulf War, then having the sense not to occupy Iraq. Not bad!

Nonetheless, the young, vigorous, though vastly less experienced governor of Arkansas was a better match for America's needs in 1992 -- or so Bill Clinton argued, and I believed.

Posted by: Elizabeth Edwards | May 11, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

I'm certainly not a Sharpton fan, a former supporter of Hillary Clinton, but he sure makes sense here:

"As you know, I've been in the ministry of civil rights all my life, but had dealings with entertainers because of James Brown," Sharpton said. "The worst thing in the world is when an entertainer doesn't know when the show is over. The audience is gone, the lights are down, you're getting ready to cut the mics off and you are still on the stage singing. It's over, it's all right, it's over. Come sing another day, but this show is over for Sen. Clinton."

Posted by: Anonymous | May 11, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Like Bill Clinton said. Politics is a contact sport.
Looks like Obama played a good game and Clinton supporters are being poor sports.

Posted by: Anna | May 11, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Steve Cohen (Rep from Tennesese) compared Senator Clinton to Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction. This is unacceptable. He should apologize immediately to Senator Clinton for making such a sexist and divisive comment. He is alienating Clinton supporters even further by such utterances.

The only racist people in this nomination process are Obama and his ilk who have stoked the race card for all its worth and then scream foul if anyone criticizes them. Is that what it's going to be like should he get the Presidency? For the Obamaites who keep parroting each other, please go to the source and do your own analysis - you are being hoodwinked and bamboozled.

MUST READ:
See article http://www.progressive.org/?q=mag_reed0508
AND
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sean-wilentz/james-clyburn-happy-to-pl_b_99320.html

Posted by: alee21 | May 11, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

WAKE UP PEOPLE! (Sorry if that sounds rather KKK-ish). I am an avid Obama supporter, but if the sun falls into the sea and for some reason he's not the nominee, I would swallow my stomach and vote for hillbilly. The only way this country can be saved, if that's even possible at this point, is to have a Democrat in the white house. I wouldn't enjoy it, but I would do it for the overall good of the country. Those of you who say you will vote for McCain, vote as an Independent, or not vote at all have myopic vision and are not looking at the big picture. We so need a Democrat as commander-in-chief, that personal feelings about either candidate should not override that very important premise. Please, please reconsider your stance.

Posted by: Jane916 | May 11, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Obamaniacs:

I suppose you don't realize that every rant, every gloat, every slander you direct at HRC damages Sen. Obama more now; they only serve to embitter Sen. Clinton's ardent supporters...who will stay home (or worse, vote GOP) in the General as retribution for your hatefilled blather.

But then maybe you don't know this.

Too bad.

For Obama.

Posted by: KF | May 11, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Obamaniacs:

I suppose you don't realize that every rant, every gloat, every slander you direct at HRC damages Sen. Obama more now; they only serve to embitter Sen. Clinton's ardent supporters...who will stay home (or worse, vote GOP) in November as retribution for your hatefilled blather.

But then maybe you don't know this.

Too bad.

For Obama.

Posted by: KD | May 11, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Darrellp,
I am with you! I have so far 139 family and friends spreading around different states leaving Democratic party and we can support/encourage Sen. Clinton to run as an independent. It is so discouraging that so called party leaders are pushing her to get out of Obama's way since the beginning of this year even though the race is so highly contested and voters are evenly divided. I think the news/medias as well as party leaders wants her to get out of the race before the next two contests in WV and Kentucky as she is leading Obama with huge margin in both states. They simply don't want their God Obama to look like a defeated leader trying to survive the vicious attacks from Republican political machine during the GA. After the victories in the next two states(as Obama already predicted that she will win), she will be winning seven out of the last nine contests and party leaders chasing her away looks very bad on party itself. Lets increase our number so that we will be a bigger force to encourage her to run as an independent.

Posted by: Roger | May 11, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

D-Day
Estimate May 20, 2008
Elected Delegate Victory OBAMA
27 Delegates to Elected Delegate Victory

this means 50 supers will go with pledge to support DELEGATE WINNER

Posted by: delegate math | May 11, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

D-Day
Estimate May 20, 2008
Elected Delegate Victory OBAMA
27 Delegates to Elected Delegate Victory

this means 50 supers will go with pledge to support DELEGATE WINNER

Posted by: delegate math | May 11, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

What Hillary really thinks of you.

In January 1995, as the Clintons were licking their wounds from the 1994 congressional elections, a debate emerged at a retreat at Camp David. Should the administration make overtures to working class white southerners who had all but forsaken the Democratic Party? The then-first lady took a less than inclusive approach.

"Screw 'em," she told her husband. "You don't owe them a thing, Bill. They're doing nothing for you; you don't have to do anything for them."

Posted by: Anonymous | May 11, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

FUND RAISE, FUND RAISE, FUND RAISE, thats all it's about any more for Hillary, She is even trying to shake down Obama to to pay off her 25 million in debts. In other words, if he said yes, you would see how much she cares about continuing, it is all about the money. It is an insult to her supporters as she continues to fund raise and take, STEAL, their money to put in her pocket to cover her personal debt. There is no doubt her money will come off the top before anything else and everybody she has been stiffing can go twist in the wind. Even if you are a Hillary supporter, don't be a sucker. Spend your money on your own bills, don't let Hillary screw you out of your hard earned money.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 11, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Sure, HRC is qualified and experienced in lies and gimmicks. She will kiss your ass to get your vote and then throw you down the briudge once elected. We have seen that she is a chemeleon. Are some people so gullible to believes she will deliver on her hollow promises.

McCain, on the hand is like dead man walking. He looks some patient from nursing home wandering away. I'm scared he will mistake Alaska for China or Russia and Europe for Irag/Mid East. McCain should retire from poloitical life with dignity now, not run for president with one foot on the grave and other on this un achievable ambition.

Let this nation rise above petty politics and be becon of choice and opportunity.

Posted by: MN | May 11, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse

For those in West Virginia, give the country a break. All should vote for the winner Senator Obama, Certainly that may put all this nonsense to rest and allow Senator Clinton to accept her defeat with some grace.

Posted by: MarkO- | May 11, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Mayor Daily cleans the snow off the streets better than any previous Mayor and will continue to have high ratings on Chicago's #1 Issue.

Posted by: salty irish cathelic | May 11, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Obama the preacher....that is what he sat and learned for 20 years.

So he goes out, practices Voter Liberation Ideology, talking only to crowds, and stutters on every other one to one interview situation. What a revolutionary cult he has purchased!!!!

We will NOT vote for Obama, on ANY ticket!!!

Posted by: Sean McM | May 11, 2008 9:44 AM | Report abuse

what is Axelrod's cnnection to Mayor Daly

Posted by: maggie | May 11, 2008 9:14 AM

Maggie, you might want to look at the long, detailed story on Obama's Chicago roots in today's NYT. It's a fair look at this history with Chicago politics since before he went to law school. If you want to play the guilt-by-association game, there are probably some facts you can take out of context from the story. If you want to take the objective view, you can look at the whole story in balance and conclude that Obama's Chicago history is entirely consistent with the campaign narrative of unifying America by bringing together disparate constituencies, ranging from moderate republicans to radical minority advocates to demo machine politicians. How you read and use the information is up to you. And to answer your question, Axelrod has been a top aide to Mayor Daley (spelling correctly could help the perceived credibility of your posts) for many years. However, as the NYT article shows, Daley and Obama have not been close political allies, and the mayor for whatever reasons has chosen only recently to become an Obama backer.

Posted by: flarrfan | May 11, 2008 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Countdown
27 to Elected Delegate Majority Obama

160 to 2025 Obama Victory Nomination
Superbowl +14 Obama
250 supers left 217 elected 467 Total Delgates

Go OBAMA

Posted by: delgate math | May 11, 2008 9:34 AM | Report abuse

what is Axelrod's cnnection to Mayor Daly

Posted by: maggie | May 11, 2008 9:14 AM | Report abuse

The super delegate kingmakers of the Democratic Party should not find it difficult, using fair rational judgment, to tell Mrs. Clinton that she has lost the contest for the Party's presidential nomination ticket to Barack Obama. That has been very clear to both the Clinton and the Obama camps and all observers since the Clinton camp failed to achieve the big win she hoped for in the big states of Ohio and Texas and with the Obama camp wasting no time in wiping off whatever gains she made in Ohio in the next contests that followed. Obama has thus demonstrated that he is not just good at giving speeches but also at rightly analyzing difficult situations to form the right strategy to employ for achieving even seemingly impossible objectives and at accomplishing unbelievable great tasks and goals.
So formidable was the nomination task that all the rivals of Mrs. Clinton faced against her perceived inevitability and long time preparation and proven superior campaign organization at the beginning of the nomination contest, with Obama being, perhaps, the least expected to have a chance to win. Obama's win in Iowa was so unbelievable in Bill Clinton's ears that he started seeing the whole thing as a "fairy tale". And when polls started showing Obama overtaking Mrs. Clinton at the next state in the nomination calendar the ex-president started complaining about the time table which the only the Clinton camp was in position to influence than any other candidate when it was being drawn. The sudden realization that Obama's challenge for the nomination, which was already written off for her, was real and credible was too much for Mrs. Clinton to bear that she publicly burst into tears that led many to cast votes of pity for her, which eventually helped her to win in New Hampshire. From then on the ex-president and the rest of the Clinton camp seemed to have come to realize that she could hardly win playing by the fair rules that was in place at the beginning and which all the contestants approved and agreed to abide by. They started ignoring the rules and complained against them, and challenge and seek to change them unfairly in her favor to help her win.
Mrs. Clinton started this campaign as the presumed Democratic Party's nominee with all the advantages that any contestant can ever hope for. She had a huge financial edge with the backing of main donors of the Party. She along with her husband the de facto party leader as the last US president from the Democratic Party still enjoyed overwhelming support from the Party officials and the Party members generally across the country. The Party establishment and the Party apparatuses worked together to support Mrs. Clinton as the choice of the establishment, perhaps to the detriment of the Party. Furthermore, the national and most state polls gave Mrs. Clinton overwhelming lead by very wide margin over all her rivals in the nomination race for the Democratic Party's nominee. In addition, the eight years in the White House as the First Lady had made her famous nationally and internationally, quite unlike Barack Obama the new comer. Of course it may seem a big disgrace that such an unknown new figure like Barack Obama should emerge out of nowhere to and coming from behind to beat such a presumed nominee with all the advantages with her. That should explain why the Clinton camp is doing everything destroy the image of Obama to render him unelectable as the Party nominee. At this point, Mrs. Clinton has no hope of winning the contest by any fair means, so she got nothing to lose.
There is indeed a "difference between making speeches and implementing solutions." This campaign has offered both Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama to prove themselves as achievers. Obama has proved that he can achieve his goal within a non-conducive environment using whatever resources he's got without bending the rule. Mrs. Clinton has proved that she's a failure. We now know why she has been failing to achieve even when she has all the chances to succeed well. The Democratic Party would do itself a great injustice if it denies such an achiever like Obama the chance to win the presidency for the Party in November by allowing the Clinton camp to continue with their destructive campaign after knowing that she cannot win by any fair means going but the rule of the game which both campaigns agree to abide with at the beginning of the contest. Obama has proved beyond all reasonable doubt that he can get things done. He has made it impossible for the Party to reject his candidacy to be the Party's nominee. We should give him the opportunity and all the support he needs to implement the changes he has promised. Mrs. Clinton has had her chances and had failed over and over. Let's give Mr. Obama the credit he deserves, and not give Mrs. Clinton a credit she deserves not.
The truth is that Mrs. Clinton already knew that she had lost this nomination contest by alienating the African Americans with her appeal to racial division and racial blackmail. She knows very well that such shameless open appeal to racial prejudice would surely work against her and against the Democratic Party in November should she become the Party's nominee. She definitely did not hope to win the presidency with just the vote of the "hardworking white Americans" without the support of other races, particularly the African and Latino Americans as well as other ethnic minorities. So, the Party leaders as well as those who are still backing her campaign should see clearly that she's no longer campaigning to win the presidential nomination, which she knows she has lost, but to destroy the Party and its chances to win in November. Therefore, all those who are interested in the success of the Democratic Party should withdraw their support for Mrs. Clinton's candidacy NOW, and stop her from her desperate, open and shameless attack against the strong base of the Party, which is its racial and class collisions. Having gone to the extent which she has gone in her negative campaign its obvious that Mrs. Clinton might have crossed the line, beyond which all her hope of ever becoming president is lost FOREVER. Both Hillary and her husband Bill Clinton, the former president, are too clever not to know this.
Therefore, the Party faithful should not allow themselves to be fooled into thinking Mrs. Clinton is still having any hope of winning the nomination or the presidential election in November. Her only hope for continuing with the campaign now is to ensure that Obama does not win the presidency in November, and perhaps that no African American nor any non-white American is ever allowed to become the Democratic Party's presidential nominee for the White House. That will definitely destroy the base of the Party as non-whites will no longer see themselves as having equal opportunity with their white counterparts. A win by Obama in November could never happen without the support of the white majority. However such a win would encourage all the minorities as well as the whites to join the Democratic Party as the Party with the best chances to win the presidency. Such a strong collision will ensure the Democratic Party leadership in American politics for decades to come.

Posted by: Abbarick | May 11, 2008 9:05 AM | Report abuse

DarrellP you talk about the supportes of Obama staying home if he is not the nominee but if Hillary say she has the white blue collar workers she is a raciasexpereince Obama we have 50 states not 48 or 57 some one should tell him about losing it early

Posted by: maggie | May 11, 2008 9:01 AM | Report abuse

Now the pundits will say Sernator Clinton is staying in the race for devious reasons I say it is because she respects and honors the American voter by remaining in the race until the last vote is counted! However, the pundits are right about one thing...I support Senator Clinton because I believe she has the better agenda for America and the best ability to get it implemented.Therefore, when the last vote is recorded and if she loses, as the pundits project, I will become a "McCainocrat" and wait for 2012.

Posted by: CG from Kansas | May 11, 2008 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Someday a women will win not this woman
She is so disgusting person and why there are some people backing her with constant lies coming from that mouth

Posted by: lv | May 11, 2008 8:56 AM | Report abuse

She has big problem with young voters and black voters cant win without the wicked witch is dead.

Posted by: lv | May 11, 2008 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Obama will prevail.

Posted by: DenisR | May 11, 2008 8:42 AM | Report abuse

I am proud to be a McCAIN DEMOCRAT. Bye/Bye OBAMA, then OSAMA or ORAMA or OKAMA

Posted by: vs | May 11, 2008 8:23 AM | Report abuse

I am proud to be a McCAIN DEMOCRAT. Bye/Bye OBAMA, then OSAMA or ORAMA or OKAMA

Posted by: vs | May 11, 2008 8:21 AM | Report abuse

I am sure glad to see this democratic primary contest coming to an end and very glad to see the Clinton's loosing. They have both been an international blight on america. Maybe now they will crawl back in the woodwork like the cockroaches they are and this country can move ahead.

Posted by: Jim | May 11, 2008 8:14 AM | Report abuse

The race-baiting, code language talking Hillary will be saying "President Obama" come 20 January 2009. And it will drive her crazy to know that she and McCain were bested by an agile, resilient, forward-thinking freshman Senator who happens to be African-America. There's the real rub for the self-entitled Hillary: I lost to a black man. Hence the reason Hillary blatantly panders to the "hard-working white Americans" as if people of color don't work hard. Personally, I am Black and bitter like coffee because my experience because I can't imagine what is so lazy about going to graduate school while working two jobs and caring for a family! I know Jamaicans who seem to have nine jobs. I know Hispanics and Latinos who come here and pave roads in order to have a piece of the American dream -- just like the white Americans who came from Europe in the 18th and 19th centuries (as well as the immigration rush in the early 20th century). So Senator Clinton, I am Black and bitter by your comments. The good news is that Americans of all stripes see your true feelings and your real color: bigot!

Posted by: Black and Bitter like Coffee | May 11, 2008 6:54 AM | Report abuse

Reading some of the comments that have been posted here, I couldn't help but comment myself. First for all of you out there who think Obama is the voice of change, check again. He has spent years perfecting a his methods for using people to his advantage. He new Rev. Wright was a nutbag from day on, but since he was lacking in his appeal to black voters in Chicago he "sold his values" to claim Rev. Wright as a friend and and win over voters. Now it has come back to haunt him and he has had to make countless efforts to distance himself. This is true for many of the people that he is associated with in Chicago. This is what all politicians do. He is no different. Furthermore, I think he is less likely to win in a general election. Far stronger democrats have been beaten down by the GOP machine and he can't go one on on with that kinda power. CLINTON CAN! If you watch, your "poised and eloquent speaker" Obama, he gets nervous and has trouble speaking when he is asked a difficult question. The sad thing he is that there are countless Americans that are dumb enough to buy the crap Obama is selling. White, black, purple, red or green Obama just doesn't have what it takes to get the job done. Give him a few years "hard labor" in congrees or as the VP and he would most likely become an historical president. For those first time voters... Don't just vote for Obama because the likes of CNN and FOX News tell you too. Obama's popularity is only due to the fact that Americans are brain washed by the TV set and have forgotten how to reason for themselves. Try picking up Al Gore's book "The Assault on Reason". Get out and get involved!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 11, 2008 6:12 AM | Report abuse

DarrellP:

This Black American might still be in chains if it wasn't for the efforts of a man named Lincoln, who had exactly the same amount of experience as Obama.

Posted by: John | May 11, 2008 3:49 AM

Lol. There were so many offices Abraham ran for, obstacles and failures and he still didn't quit. Thats shows perserverence, resilence and strength. I see that in Hillary.

Below is Lincoln's record.

He had to work to support his family after they were forced out of their home. 1816
His mother died. 1818
Failed in business. 1831
Was defeated for legislature. 1832
Lost his job and couldn't get into law school. 1832
Declared bankruptcy, and spent the next 17 years of his life paying off the money
he borrowed from friends to start his business. 1833
Was defeated for legislature again. 1834
Was engaged to be married, but his sweetheart died and his heart was broken. 1835
Had a nervous breakdown and spent the next six months in bed. 1836
Was defeated in becoming the speaker of the state legislature. 1838
Was defeated in becoming elector. 1840
Was defeated for Congress 1843
Was defeated for Congress. 1846
Was defeated for Congress again. 1848
Was rejected for the job of Land Officer in his home state. 1849
Was defeated for Senate. 1854
Was defeated for Vice-President -- got less than 100 votes. 1856
Was defeated for Senate for the third time. 1858
Was elected President of the United States.

Hillary All The Way

Posted by: ForgetObamaItsJabba | May 11, 2008 5:13 AM | Report abuse

I do not think that Hillary Clinton can see the reality. Besides her recent statements are really misleading. She said that she is thankful to all "White hard-working Americans" who supported her campaing. What does that mean? Does it mean that there are or were not "White hard-working Americans" who supported Obama? I am sure that there are. Does it mean that the only "hard-working Americans" are white? I do not think so. It is a very misleading stament. It has racial venum. After all, she is a politician.

Posted by: luigui | May 11, 2008 4:54 AM | Report abuse

All this talk about experience running the country, as if there's a training course. It seems to me that what Obama brings is fresh pragmatism to an inbred system. It's become so locked down in policy that nothing can get done, and as St. John rambled on about, we do indeed have the ability to kill ourselves off in terrible ways. So. With that in mind, I'd say that I'm going to go less on experience with the inbred system, and more on what's really needed - a sound mind, a valid driver's licence, and a U.S. birth certificate. Otherwise, it doesn't take a genius to see where the road we're on is heading.

Posted by: Curious | May 11, 2008 4:49 AM | Report abuse

Vote4thebest - Even Karl Rove said this years election demographics are completely skewed. Pundits can argue probabilities all they want, but when the issues come out - stay the course or redirect - on things like the war, the economy, the cost of education, the cost of healthcare, global warming, etc., these things have been neglected for too long, and labels of "right vs. left" will become hazy when the voters are asked if they really want to keep on with the path Bush has set us down.

Posted by: JR | May 11, 2008 4:34 AM | Report abuse

Why Hillary still in the race?

Lets turn the table - assuming Obama where Hillary in her dungeon now, Obama will be kicked out and bullied by Clintons from the playground long ago!

Why Hillary still haggling?

Part of it is in Clintons DNA; Clintons do not know how to exit gracefully. Clintons presidential pardons is sick*, Rodham brothers was bribed (100,000$) to lobby for presidential pardon of two criminals which they have to return money. Hillary took carpets from White House, which they have to return. Clintons took gifts with them without proper clearance, they were sued and harassed.

Oh, I am sure you remember her Bosnia trip! She has to cover for her life and braved to save a GI from sniper fire! Get a laugh :) Psst!

So, considering the Clinton fracas, they are just scumbag.

And her recent statement, 'Hardworking white working class' folks who support her candidacy is hard to swallow. Is she meant only 'Whites are hardworking'? What about others?

She is a racial-bigot!

Posted by: GI Joe | May 11, 2008 4:32 AM | Report abuse

I am an Obama supporter, and have been from the beginning of all this, and I have been appalled at times by the tactics used by Mrs. Clinton, but I have to say, as this draws to a close, that I respect her a very great deal. I also respect John McCain. I disagree with their means, but I understand their ends. They all seem to be running because they sincerely want to fix things. I am glad that after all the self-interested abuse of privelages committed by the Bush Administration, we've got 3 people who seem interested in listening to us. That, if nothing else, gives me a little hope for this country. I hope Obama puts Clinton in charge of healthcare. That seems like it would be a nice acknowledgement of all the work she's done over the past couple of decades. And if she does a good enough job with it, there's always a future candidacy.

Posted by: JR | May 11, 2008 4:28 AM | Report abuse

Sexism continues to be strong in this country. Just look at the history of people in Congress; they seem to be in this order, white men, then black men, before any women.

Posted by: vote4thebest | May 11, 2008 3:42 AM

It's so sad that schools don't seem to be teaching either history OR current events. There are 16 female senators and one black senator, and none of that has anything to do with whether Hillary or Obama is a better candidate.

Posted by: aleks | May 11, 2008 4:28 AM | Report abuse

What a surprise, another non-truth and ludicrous statement from the Hillster. Why would Obama waste his time in a state that has:

"..only 3.3 percent of West Virginians are black and only 16. 5 percent of residents have bachelor's degrees, more than 10 percentage points below the national average, U.S. Census figures show."

So let's all go and get the s*** kicked out of us by the rednecks in W.V.

I cannot believe that Hillary is proud of her base, kind of reminds me of Bush with his base of religious zealots, paranoid chicken hawks, and old and fearful "patriots".

Posted by: Donna | May 11, 2008 3:59 AM | Report abuse

Jacksmith, you MUST be a Republican! You been yapping about Hillary being the best, and she's going to win, yada, yada, yada. Jackie, please point out any, ANY nominee who won with over 60% of the voters considering them dishonest, or untrustworthy. Point it out to back up your argument. Waiting! Nobody in their right mind figures that she can win outside of her die hard supporter who have lost their grip on reality, or the Republicans who desperately, yes DESPERATELY need her to be nominated so that they can hang onto the national agenda and the Presidency. Looking forward to seeing you provide some proof here to back up you statements you spam here every day. No actual proof provided by you to back your allegations up, the just admit your either a dittohead, spammer, or a moron!

Posted by: Lori | May 11, 2008 3:55 AM | Report abuse

DarrellP:

This Black American might still be in chains if it wasn't for the efforts of a man named Lincoln, who had exactly the same amount of experience as Obama.

Posted by: John | May 11, 2008 3:49 AM | Report abuse

Obama's win in NC proves beyond any doubt that he is a racially-based candidate. He can't win the general election with just the blacks and the young. It would be another 'Tsongas' election! Clinton's win in Indiana, by a slim margin, also raises the big question why Obama lost a state that he is supposed to win!
Clinton also started out about ~20 points behind in North Carolina, and 8 or 10 points behind in Indiana. She narrowed the gap in NC, and won in Indiana. Can you imagine what would be the headlines if the situation was reversed? probably "Obama trounced Clinton with a huge 2% margin". And she did it with Obama continuing to outspend her by 3 or 4:1.
The media continues to be anti-Clinton. The media has robbed the people of this country to see a strong campaign to continue in a fair and balanced manner. It is the worst kind of sexism, unprofessional, and unethical journalism!
Sexism continues to be strong in this country. Just look at the history of people in Congress; they seem to be in this order, white men, then black men, before any women. The fact that Clinton is smart and qualified and yet is so unfairly treated, only confirms that sexism still exists. I am going to write in Clinton as my choice in November if she does not win the nomination.

Posted by: vote4thebest | May 11, 2008 3:42 AM | Report abuse

Being a life long democrat - and ONLY voting Democratic since 1976, come November, I will vote for Obama. Period. If Hillary would be on ticket as president- i'd pass, and just not vote. But McCain might win - just look at 2004.

Posted by: Joe Walters | May 11, 2008 3:41 AM | Report abuse

I would readily vote for C. Powell or C. Rice, good intelligent politicans.
Posted by: Clyde Nugget.

That is debatable. Powell, whom I admire displayed poor judgment, one might say an unintelligent judgment when he accepted a post in the Bush cabinet. He came to regret that, and his otherwise stellar career and reputation has been sullied in the aftermath. Rice was a failure as nat'l security advisor and a non factor as secretary of state. Which bring us to your judgment.

Posted by: judgmentcounts | May 11, 2008 3:22 AM | Report abuse

I went there Arod -- he is losing and can't win

Posted by: rogers | May 11, 2008 3:21 AM | Report abuse

DarrellP

You're an idiot. Here's a news flash for you. Obama doesn't need your vote. Check out mydd.com and you'll see that Obama can and WIIL be the next President.

Posted by: Arod

I went there Arod -- he is losing and can't win

Posted by: Iwent | May 11, 2008 3:21 AM | Report abuse

I went there Arod -- he is losing and can't win

Posted by: Iwent | May 11, 2008 3:21 AM | Report abuse

I would readily vote for C. Powell or C. Rice, good intelligent politicans.
Posted by: Clyde Nugget.

That is debatable. Powell, whom I admire displayed poor judgment, one might say an unintelligent judgment when he accepted a post in the Bush cabinet. He came to regret that, and his otherwise stellar career and reputation has been sullied in the aftermath. Rice was a failure as nat'l security advisor and a non factor as secretary of state. Which bring us to your judgment/intelligence.

Posted by: str8talk | May 11, 2008 3:16 AM | Report abuse

The two Democrats don't differ that greatly on policy only in style so you are willing to forgo all of Hillary's policies just because the messenger is different. That doesn't make any sense. Posted by: Leo

If the re-election of Dubya is any indication, SENSE is not a commodity in abundance in this country.

Posted by: str8talk | May 11, 2008 2:56 AM | Report abuse

Hey DarylP:
Guess what... your gal Hillary was/is the establishment candidate. She had something like 160 superdelegates lined up even before the Iowa caucus. She has all the establishment campaign managers and all the big money donors. She also has one of the strongest brand names in the US.

Posted by: CR | May 11, 2008 2:39 AM | Report abuse

DarrellP

You're an idiot. Here's a news flash for you. Obama doesn't need your vote. Check out mydd.com and you'll see that Obama can and WIIL be the next President.


Posted by: Arod | May 11, 2008 2:20 AM | Report abuse

Bill & Hillary,

Don't go away mad, just go away.

Posted by: CV2 | May 11, 2008 2:14 AM | Report abuse

HILLARY CLINTON CAN BEST WIN IN NOVEMBER:

It's time for everyone to face the truth. Barack Obama has no real chance of winning the national election in November at this time. His crushing defeat in Pennsylvania, and loss in Indiana makes that fact crystal clear. His best, and only real chance of winning in November is on a ticket with Hillary Clinton as her VP.

Hillary Clinton seemed almost somber at her Pennsylvania, and Indiana victory speeches. As if part of her was hoping Obama could have proved he had some chance of winning against the republican attack machine, and their unlimited money, and resources.

But it is absolutely essential that the democrats take back the Whitehouse in November. America, and the American people are in a very desperate condition now. And the whole World has been doing all that they can to help keep us propped up.

Hillary Clinton say's that the heat, and decisions in the Whitehouse are much tougher than the ones on the campaign trail. But I think Sen. Obama faces a test of whether he has what it takes to be a commander and chief by facing the difficult facts, and the truth before him. And by doing what is best for the American people by dropping out of the race, and offering his whole hearted assistance to Hillary Clinton to help her take back the Whitehouse for the American people, and the World.

Sen. Obama is a great speaker. And I am confident he can explain to the American people the need, and wisdom of such a personal sacrifice for them. It should be clear to everyone by now that Hillary Clinton is fighting her heart out for the American people. She has known for a long time that Sen. Obama can not win this November. You have to remember that the Clinton's have won the Whitehouse twice before. They know what it takes.

If Sen. Obama fails his test of commander and chief we can only hope that Hillary Clinton can continue her heroic fight for the American people. And that she prevails. She will need all the continual support and help we can give her. She may fight like a superhuman. But she is only human.

Don't be fooled by the pledged delegate, and math arguments. Neither candidate has the necessary pledged delegates. The entire delegates counts, and votes from Florida, and Michigan are not even being counted. Plus the democratic caucuses, and primarys have been heavily corrupted by fraud, and vote cheating. The only relevant question now is who can best WIN IN NOVEMBER and take back the Whitehouse for the American people. And that answer is HILLARY CLINTON. Everyone knows that now.

Sincerely

Jacksmith... Working Class :-)

p.s. I have been under heavy attacks for some time now. But it wont stop me. :-)

Posted by: jacksmith | May 11, 2008 2:10 AM | Report abuse

All this talk about Obama's lack of experience is just a subterfuge and a shallow one at that.

Answer me this, naysayers: are you better off now than 8 years ago, thanks to the "experience" of Dick Cheney and President George Bush?

Wisdom, my friends, trumps experience any day. Need proof: where are those mass weapons of destruction that has cost 4,000+ US servicemen lives in Iraq?

Posted by: Miles Long | May 11, 2008 2:07 AM | Report abuse

One reason Hillary is unelectable (besides running an incompetent campaign)is that people know she is divisive and toxic to the country. It's sad to see her dwindling supporters continue the nasty division that Hillary inspired. Republicans would love to see Hillary run indefinitely as she continues to try to tear apart the Democrats.

Posted by: kadydid | May 11, 2008 2:05 AM | Report abuse

Come on Charlie, while it is true winners require a winning attitude, there comes a time when one must lay aside, ego, vanity and denial and embrace reality.

Posted by: tydicea | May 11, 2008 2:04 AM | Report abuse

Obama needs more seasoning. That's about right nobody in corporate America will hire a CEO to run a Giant Company based on talks, imaginary plans and rhetorics.

The USA CEO is not just any position, it's the most powerful and delicate position on earth.

Obama is just too green to be our commander in Chief.

Let's win big in WV next Tuesday. The tide could still turn to Hillary's way if the good people of WV do their part.

All the best!!!

Posted by: Sycamore | May 11, 2008 1:33 AM | Report abuse

Billary, You can't Leave yet!

This Country needs you!

PLEASE!

Iron our Shirts! ;~)

Posted by: RAT-The | May 11, 2008 1:29 AM | Report abuse

I think Hillary lost it when she and Bill were willing to sacrifice and divide their own party to win. George Bush is another politician who never quits and it continues to cost us lives. Hillary is not a winner.

Posted by: Margaret | May 11, 2008 1:27 AM | Report abuse

I admire Hillary's will and strength. Great job Hillary.

Great job Democrats!

When it is all said and done, we will need to remember the important issues. Honestly, I do not believe that McCain (as respectable as he is), with his stances on the issues, I sincerely do not believe that he is what this country needs after two consecutive terms of Bush. We are in turbulent times, and I believe we all need to join forces for The Cause of this country and help pull it in a different direction. I believe we need to help ourselves (and each other for the matter, with our votes), and bring our people home from this illegit war, etc etc. We have a lot of work to do people. Let the majority be united for The Good of this country. You'd be amazed what WE can do when we're much less divided.

United --> '08

Posted by: Obama2008 | May 11, 2008 1:21 AM | Report abuse

Hillary is the most experienced LIAR!
Hillary cares about Hillary and POWER!
Hill $ Bill are Racists!
Obama will bring new politics to Washington and in with the new & out with the old!

If Obama had Hill as VP he would have to watch his back the knife will be coming!

Goodbye Hill & Bill!

Posted by: KK | May 11, 2008 1:10 AM | Report abuse

Can he deliver? No one knows but many are willing to take that bet as if he had done alot to give them that confidence. Talk is easy and cheap and people are swept off their feet just by his rhetorics and fine speeches including the Dems bigwigs.
Even in corporate America no employee can be in the CEO seat overnight without paying his dues n proving himself worthy of the enormous resposibilities he is about to inherit. What a gamble.

Posted by: Mike | May 11, 2008 12:43 AM | Report abuse

Can he deliver? No one knows but many are willing to take that bet as if he had done alot to give them that confidence. Talk is easy and cheap and people are swept off their feet just by his rhetorics and fine speeches including the Dems bigwigs.
Even in corporate America no employee can be in the CEO seat overnight without paying his dues n proving himself worthy of the enormous resposibilities he is about to inherit. What a gamble.

Posted by: Mike | May 11, 2008 12:43 AM | Report abuse

DarrellP just summed up everything that's wrong with politics in this country, in one post.

Posted by: Another J | May 11, 2008 12:33 AM | Report abuse

Any more questions about politicians?
Just before introducing and praising Hillary Clinton today, Charles Rangel had these words to reporters regarding her remarks on her base being white Americans:

BY KEITH HERBERT | keith.herbert@newsday.com
10:28 PM EDT, May 10, 2008

"One of Hillary Rodham Clinton's most important supporters, Charles Rangel, repudiated her claims she has broader support among "white Americans," calling the comments "the dumbest thing she could ever have said."

The Harlem congressman's criticism of Clinton came as rival Barack Obama Saturday took the lead among superdelegates, the group that will decide the Democratic Party's presidential nomination.

Speaking to reporters before introducing Clinton at a Manhattan fundraiser Saturday, Rangel chastised the remarks as "very poorly worded."

Posted by: Anonymous | May 11, 2008 12:24 AM | Report abuse

TOAST FOLKS IS WHAT HILLARY IS PERIOD!!
In the immortal words of Snaglepuss it is time to "exit stage left" No need to put the hook on her and it is fine for her to go out on whatever high note means to her. Facts are facts though and her reality bending kaleidoscope is out of glitter and no one except some of the totally non educated is seeing anything but Barack Obama leading our party and the fight against John McCain. Do we want all of her supporters to back the person who will insure that the next Supreme Court judges don't rid us of Roe vs Wade, get us out of Iraq, Build our infrastructure, etc. Of course we do. I sincerely hope her loyalists they don't spend any more of their hard earned cash into her campaign which would only let her take some of her loans back into the over 100 million dollar stash.

Lets all rally round hold hands and get behind our best candidate to bring about positive change America. It is Barack Obama who will show us how alike we are and not focus us on our differences.

Posted by: Raul Miami | May 11, 2008 12:21 AM | Report abuse

TOAST FOLKS IS WHAT HILLARY IS PERIOD!!
In the immortal words of Snaglepuss it is time to "exit stage left" No need to put the hook on her and it is fine for her to go out on whatever high note means to her. Facts are facts though and her reality bending kaleidoscope is out of glitter and no one except some of the totally non educated is seeing anything but Barack Obama leading our party and the fight against John McCain. Do we want all of her supporters to back the person who will insure that the next Supreme Court judges don't rid us of Roe vs Wade, get us out of Iraq, Build our infrastructure, etc. Of course we do. I sincerely hope her loyalists they don't spend any more of their hard earned cash into her campaign which would only let her take some of her loans back into the over 100 million dollar stash.

Lets all rally round hold hands and get behind our best candidate to bring about positive change America. It is Barack Obama who will show us how alike we are and not focus us on our differences.

Posted by: Raul Miami | May 11, 2008 12:20 AM | Report abuse

TOAST FOLKS IS WHAT HILLARY IS PERIOD!!
In the immortal words of Snaglepuss it is time to "exit stage left" No need to put the hook on her and it is fine for her to go out on whatever high note means to her. Facts are facts though and her reality bending kaleidoscope is out of glitter and no one except some of the totally non educated is seeing anything but Barack Obama leading our party and the fight against John McCain. Do we want all of her supporters to back the person who will insure that the next Supreme Court judges don't rid us of Roe vs Wade, get us out of Iraq, Build our infrastructure, etc. Of course we do. I sincerely hope her loyalists they don't spend any more of their hard earned cash into her campaign which would only let her take some of her loans back into the over 100 million dollar stash.

Lets all rally round hold hands and get behind our best candidate to bring about positive change America. It is Barack Obama who will show us how alike we are and not focus us on our differences.

Posted by: Raul Miami | May 11, 2008 12:20 AM | Report abuse

RESPONSE TO ASHLEY: "I don't understand why the media and Senator Obama"s people are putting so much pressure on Senator Clinton to quit if they are convinced she is going to lose. What is the big deal let her finish the few states that are left without the cruel mean-spirited humiliation of the press and Mr. Obama
Posted by: Ashley | May 10, 2008 11:13 PM"

Ashley, the concert is over and instead of Hillary gracefully getting off the stage, she has the door chained and is holding the party (Democratic) hostage. We are sick of it and want to move on! This is not about the election anymore because it is over... This is not what is good for the American people... this is about Hillary! PLEASE get off the stage... we want to go home!

Super Delagates please stop this... the last time I checked, our party initials are DNC not HRC! The Super Delegates need to go on the stage, take the mike from her hand, pull her dress down, straighten out her hair, wipe off her mascara and tell Hillary it is time to go home...

Posted by: Tired And Want To Go Home | May 11, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

I don't have a problem with Hillary continuing her quest for the white house. The problem I have is when she throws mud at Obama she should think twice. She cannot throw mud at him and expect him to take her as his running mate. There is a clear distinction between disagreeing with an opponent and saying things just to smear the opponents name. Hillary has run a campaign using surrogates who were given special training on how to degrade Obama. Each and every high power surrogate in her campaign were given a particular topic to smear Obama's name. Now Hillary is planning on making Obama pay off her campaign debts as well as carry her as his running mate. She knows that in eight years she has a better chance at the white house, if she is a veep. But the problem with a joint ticket is that, Hillary's views on a lot of issues are similar to McCain's and against Obama's. If Hillary is given the veep job, Obama will be at a loss to stress his points in the general election because Hillary has the opposite views. Not only that both Bill and Hillary will drag Obama back down to do a mud fight with McCain. That is not what this country wants.

Posted by: John Cox | May 11, 2008 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Great moments in Presidential speeches:
"Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country." JFK

"We having nothing to fear but fear itself." FDR

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman." Bill Clinton

Posted by: John V | May 11, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

To start with,we are fortunate to have two,
in my opinion,strong candidates.Guys settle
down.We should unite as a strong party.
Both candidates have the decisivness and
experience that will make them a good
commander in cheif.

Posted by: Mark | May 10, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Look . . . Obama will lose the general election because most of Clinton's supporters
won't stand for this facade of a circus.
What is really alarming is that the media is
anointing this man, who does not have the knowledge and abilities to lead this country.
Who has run a negative campaign? Axelrod and
his cohorts of Chicago/Illinois politicians.
Obama has rubbed elbows with the worst in
Chicago,pointing to his poor judgment and
Black power politics based on black power
religious affiliations.

Posted by: Patricia | May 10, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Hillar...it's not you it's me.

trying to let her down easy.

Posted by: Rob | May 10, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Hillary did not achieve a thing in the past 20 years, why would she achieve something now ? Obama did pass some important legislation during his time as senator. So keep to the facts and make a good your choice. BTW this is your last change as an American citizen to get America together again after president Clinton and the bush-gang. And for Obama this warning: "Watch your steps friend with jewish money on your side, I would say get rid of it, and try get support of all sorts of people, and most of all, get rid of money-grabbers.

Posted by: jwh | May 10, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Hey Charlie Rangel. I am embarrassed for you. This witch is racist to the core, and you kiss her a$$? Wake up Charlie.

Posted by: jeffp | May 10, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Hey Charlie Rangel. I am embarrassed for you. This witch is racist to the core, and you kiss her a$$? Wake up Charlie.

Posted by: jeffp | May 10, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Ashley wrote:

"I don't understand why the media and Senator Obama"s people are putting so much pressure on Senator Clinton to quit if they are convinced she is going to lose. What is the big deal let her finish the few states that are left without the cruel mean-spirited humiliation of the press and Mr. Obama"

---------------------------

Obama has always said, that Hillary has the right to run for as long as she wished.

As far as others go, they call on her for different reasons. Some may believe, that she will never quit and will pursue her case even past Denver - to the destruction of both Democratic chances. Others think that the nominee has become apparent and they wish to get on with the business of tackling McCain.

There are more reasons, too, of course. But those are a couple of the biggies.

Posted by: wolf | May 10, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

I do not understand how anybody can call this winning. Maybe this is a case of not knowing when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. Maybe it is a case of being blindsided by a whole new paradigm of decency in campaigning, truthfulness in public life, and collaborative or selfless leadership.

I say all the children who've read Harry Potter know it. But when we are blinded by ambition and grandiose addictions to power, we aren't taking time to find out what the children know already. Those kids will be voting in two more presidential campaigns. They already know how to think critically of media, politics, and higher education. They already know that the great Dumbledore revered Harry for his "selflessness." It is a new paradigm. Let's all make it wonderful.

Posted by: GaiasChild | May 10, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

I do not understand how anybody can call this winning. Maybe this is a case of not knowing when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. Maybe it is a case of being blindsided by a whole new paradigm of decency in campaigning, truthfulness in public life, and collaborative or selfless leadership.

I say all the children who've read Harry Potter know it. But when we are blinded by ambition and grandiose addictions to power, we aren't taking time to find out what the children know already. Those kids will be voting in two more presidential campaigns. They already know how to think critically of media, politics, and higher education. They already know that the great Dumbledore revered Harry for his "selflessness." It is a new paradigm. Let's all make it wonderful.

Posted by: Gaias Child | May 10, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Are we trying to let her down easily?

Would she have done the same for him if the positions were reversed.

She said, "A win is a win." Well, "losing is losing, Hillary."

It's over.

And Barack: if you put her on the ticket as VP, hire Bill as your royal food taster.

Posted by: Malama Makena | May 10, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Hardworking white people who haven't finished college yet...or high school. I worked my butt off to get through college while those were the jerks that said they weren't going to waste their time or money on college. Well, good. Let them pony up for her campaign debts. They're the salt of the earth in her eyes, let them pay it. Don't use my donations from my pensions to save Bill's $109 million in bribe money.

Posted by: majorteddy | May 10, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Go Senator Clinton! Paid for by several
"educated" physicians at Northwestern Memorial.

Posted by: Doc | May 10, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

For all those who say that Obama is too inexperienced to be president. The following (some of our best presidents) had less political experience when they ran than Obama has: Washington, Jackson, Lincoln, T. Roosevelt, Franklin Roosevelt, Eisenhower. Our most politically experienced president? The one most historians consider our worst (although Bush may have taken over the title): Buchanan; who was called "old public functionary" because he had held office for so long.
How a candidate runs their campaign is historically a much better indicator of how good a president someone will be than is the experience argument.

Posted by: Sueb2 | May 10, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

All I have to say is OBAMA '08!

Posted by: Robbie | May 10, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Are we trying to let her down easily?

Would she have done the same for him if the positions were reversed.

She said, "A win is a win." Well, "losing is losing, Hillary."

It's over.

And Barack: if you put her on the ticket as VP, hire Bill as your royal food taster.

Posted by: Malama Makena | May 10, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Go Senator Clinton! Listen to the mean, smug
Obama Zombies! Comments written by request
of several "educated" physicians at Northwestern Memorial.

Posted by: Doc | May 10, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Hillary did not achieve a thing in the past 20 years, why would she achieve something now ? Obama did pass some important legislation during his time as senator. So keep to the facts and make a good your choice. BTW this is your last change as an american citizen to get america together again after president clinton and the bush-gang. And for Obama this warning: "Watch your steps friend with jewish money on your side, I would say get rid of it, and try get support of all sorts of people, and most of all, get rid of money-grabbers.

Posted by: jwh | May 10, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Old man Rangel always acted like a smart ass. But the thing is he know this thing is over and a little grandstanding is to save his face. He said, "The nominee will be decided on Feb 5 and it will be Hillary Clinton." Rangel was wrong then and he is in denial now. This thing is over!

Posted by: Dee | May 10, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand why the media and Senator Obama"s people are putting so much pressure on Senator Clinton to quit if they are convinced she is going to lose. What is the big deal let her finish the few states that are left without the cruel mean-spirited humiliation of the press and Mr. Obama

Posted by: Ashley | May 10, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

In the Beginning Hillary spent (wasted) $20M on her campaign in Iowa and came in third. Today she is $20M in debt and will come in first in West Virgina (maybe). Obama has more of what it takes to become the Democratic Nominee for President because he earned it despite the "Drama" attacks. More: Voters, States, Pledged Delegates, Super Delegates, Money ($98) average donation, Likability, Teamwork, Trust, Judgment and Inspiration is the result of a smart campaign. Obama 08.

Posted by: Fareed | May 10, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Wow, why are so many the Hillary supports upset that she lost the race and state they won't vote for Obama. Ok this is just crazy. The two Democrats don't differ that greatly on policy only in style so you are willing to forgo all of Hillary's policies just because the messenger is different. That doesn't make any sense. They're both great people and lets stop all the fighting and get this country moving in the right direction. Its time to become one American and stop all this talk of white voters and women voters etc.

Posted by: Leo | May 10, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Clyde... All I can say is, where did all these paranoias of yours come from? Where do you get this fear - if you are being genuine in your post that is. Sounds like something drummed up out of a klan meeting or a day when Rush really got rolling and didn't have his painkillers to rein him in. Don't support Obama if you don't want to, but jeez, get help for all that anxiety. Please. Good luck.

Posted by: Mark | May 10, 2008 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Judging by most of the comments posted here, I see the informed citizenry is out in force fighting to keep Hillary in a race for the Democratic Party nomination, which she has for all intents and purposes already lost.

Barack Obama will be the nominee of the Democratic Party. Get used to the idea. It was all decided fair and square by voters in primary elections held across the country. So, there is no need to worry about the health of our "democraticy."

Posted by: Character Counts | May 10, 2008 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Judging by most of the comments posted here, I see the informed citizenry is out in force fighting to keep Hillary in a race for the Democratic Party nomination, which she has for all intents and purposes already lost.

Barack Obama will be the nominee of the Democratic Party. Get used to the idea. It was all decided fair and square by voters in primary elections held across the country. So, there is no need to worry about the health of our "democraticy."

Posted by: Character Counts | May 10, 2008 11:06 PM | Report abuse

If any of you need a distraction from all this nonsense, take a look at how European countries elect coalition governments. Look at wikipedia for a good explanation.

None of this would be a problem if this country learned from the lessons that these other countries have learned.

Posted by: Brian | May 10, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Thats all thats left for her now is fund raisers. Get that cash and screw her loyal supporters as she folds the tent. What a bunch of suckers if they give her a cent.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2008 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Thats all thats left for her now is fund raisers. Get that cash and screw her loyal supporters as she folds the tent. What a bunch of suckers if they give her a cent.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Darrell P. when I hear Democrats express the same opinions that you have written here it makes me angry at how small-minded people really can be. First of all Obama didn't "steal" the nomination, nor did the Democratic establishment "pick" him...on the contrary he was ELECTED through a series of democratic primaries...that's right as of now more people who participated in the Democratic primary season wanted him to be the president.

But the thing that really upsets me is to hear all of these Democrats both Clinton and Obama supporters say how they will stay at home, or worse vote for McCain if "their" candidate doesn't win. People that has to be one of the stupidest line of reasoning ever!!!

Yes we are all passionate about our candidate and if the other candidate wins the nomination there will be a sense of "they took the election from my person so I don't want them to win"...but if you really think about it are you personal friends with either candidate? Could you pick-up your phone and call them right now if you wanted? The answer for 99.99% of us is NO!!! So that means we need to stop these "pride" feelings of wanting to make the other "suffer" by staying home or voting to McCain. At the end of the day we need to care more about gas prices, the economy, the Iraq War, health insurance, etc. instead of getting back at one of the candidates.

Let you pride keep you at home or let you vote for McCain. Sure that means the Democratic nominee might not win and you can get a sense of satisfaction...but guess what? That also means the economy will suck, thousands more will die in a debacle of a war, gas will be $6 a gallon, and food prices will continue to soar. But it's okay because you will have personally vindicated your "close friend" who didn't win the nomination.

As an Obama supporter, who thinks Clinton has run a particularly nasty campaign, would I vote for her if she convinced Super delegates to give her the nomination? HELL YES!!! Because at the end of the day I don't personally know Obama and I don't need to vindicate him by giving McCain the election. I know that things are bad right now and that either Obama or Clinton with their various flaws would be far superior to McCain.

Please people don't let petty ways keep BUSH II in the White House for another 8 years!

Posted by: Jillian | May 10, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

I will not vote for OBAMA, not because what color I am or he is, or how old or young I am, or how much $ I have or have not, or because I live in San Francisco. I will not vote for Obama because I do not want to. Now I will sit back and watch Obama's new brand of politics at work. God luck to Democracy in November and Peace to us all. PS Hillary's book deal will be much bigger when she does not take $ from Obama.

Posted by: ohio65 | May 10, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Hillary loses primary, Obama loses GE.

Congrats President McCain!

Your honesty paid off at last!

Posted by: Jkan | May 10, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

What a race! The MSM has cheerleaded a charismatic black candidate who if white everyone would agree lacks experience and has lots of skeletons back in Chicago.
For those of us who do not want to continue the bush/Neocon agenda and further destruction of the American economy and decimation of the middle class we have a dillema.
Do we go against our political gut instincts and support Obama and give up on Hillary and the likely prospect for America of a 'Clinton II' type Presidency without the sex scandals?
If I learned anything from the past 8 years it's to be wary of the MSM and wonder what motivates them to have been so joyous in their villification of Hillary and so uncritically supportive of Obama.

And I am wary, very very wary the American public is being set up once again.
I hope I am wrong but who would have thought Bush would dare use 9-11 with the support of the MSM to create this nightmare we live in today.

Posted by: thepostreader1 | May 10, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

You're right on the money, DarrellP. I, too, absolutely do not trust Obama. I do not believe most of his campaign money is coming from small donations from the internet. I wish someone in the media would "follow the money". Obama is a liar, he has friends in all the wrong places, and I do not believe he is patriotic. I do believe he would be friends with the leaders of nations which now denounce the U.S. rather than ones we should be friends with, such as Israel. I am not a racist tho I am a "typical white person". I would readily vote for C. Powell or C. Rice, good intelligent politicans.

Posted by: Clyde Nugget | May 10, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Why should anyone pay Clinton's campaign debts? We need help getting America out of debt, not help getting into it.

Posted by: Moe | May 10, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

I am an independent and a new voter.I am asking the democrats not to screw this up for the sake of this country and future generations. We are sick and tired of this war that is making us borrow from the chinese and delay inveting in our infrastructures, energy independence, heath care education etc. We do not want a third Bush term. Any democrat will do a much better job than Mccain. If we do not want our children to keep going to Irak let us support the democrat nominee whomever it is.

Posted by: Simon | May 10, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Why is it that so many of Hillary Clinton's remaining supporters have trouble with the agreement of subject and verb,(he don't), double negatives (don't know nothing) and spelling ("latley" as oppose to "lately").
By her own admission she is left with what my Grandmother would describe as a bunch of "ignoramusses".
Well, off you go...vote for John McCain and see how much respect he gives you and yours. You should fit right in with a candidate who is not even sure which factions are at war.

Posted by: Stevie57 | May 10, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Well, if Hillary Clinton is not the nominee, this Black American will be staying home, I refuse to help unite this party around an inexperienced unqualified candidate for President, no way no how,I just don't trust Obama, I'm also leaving the Democratic Party for throwing an experienced candidate under the bus for a candidate who we really don't know nothing about, I hope the Republican Swiftboat team and the 527's dig deep into Obama's background and reveal the true Obama, because he's definitely hiding something he don't want the public to know nothing about and it's not good. The Demcratic Party is going to be sorry that they took a risk on a Johnny Come Latley Senator Preaching flase Hope and Change decieving people into voting for him, people are going to be shocked when Obama's true background and lifestyle is revealed.

If Hillary campaigns for Obama, I'm still staying home, I don't accept Obama being my President and he will never be in my eyesight. I wish Hillary would run for President as an Independent and run against Obama and McCain, many of her followers would support her 100%, this will also help block Obama's Presidency, which he really does not deserve this position, if eloquent speeches is all the qualificans needed to be President, I would qualify for the Position, but I know it takes more than such speeches to do the job, well as the Bilbel say's we will reap what we sow, if Obama gets in office and people are not satisfied with his performance, please don't whinn and complain or call for his impeachment, just be quite and take what you asked for like grown man and woman, because you got and deserved every bit of what you voted for, an inexperienced person to be President, wanting change and something or someone new is not always for the better.

The Demcratic Party is taking a very big irresponsible risk on Obama, well, good luck because I now consider myself an Independent for Hillary and if she helps Obama win the election, I will be staying home all together and not voting for her as an write-in candidate, Bye Misguided, Irresponsible, poor judgment, Gender-biased Democratic Party.

I hope all Hillary Supporters follow my lead and do the same, we need to send this party a strong message that they do not pick a President for us, and what poor judgment they made for pushing Obama to be the President, also the members in Congress who supported Obama should pay at the ballot box as well, don't vote them back in office for making poor judgment call for backing this inexperienced candidate to try and fix the mess Bush will leave behind, Hillary is the beetter choice challenge McCain and bring home the Presidency for the party, not Obama, because everything that looks and sounds good is not always good for you, Isee this party and it's supporters are going to learn this the hard way, meaning we will be calling Senator McCain President McCain in 2009.

Posted by: DarrellP | May 10, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

crat3 - Obviously you got a hold of some bad weed...oh, I know, you did not inhale. It is time for you to get your head out of the sand...wishing for something to be true does not make it true. Hillary's run is over...not close to over but done, toast, fat lady has sung. Get over it and get on with it. Last thing Dems need now is another whiny, crybaby.

Posted by: LW | May 10, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

crat3,

If you're trying to make a case for Hillary Clinton you really shouldn't reference articles containing baseless conspiracy theories out of the LaRouche lunatic fringe. It just makes your argument seem less than credible.

Posted by: Justin | May 10, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Media insisting that Hillary should quit at this point are insulting millions of Americans - they are interfering with the election process in the most direct way, shorting the democraticy in America. SHAME!

Posted by: Average Joe | May 10, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

"OBAMA BACKERS MAKE THEIR THREAT" - Executive Intelligence Review - "Those who are attempting to shut down the Clinton campaign and control this Presidential election have no allegiance to Democratic Party, or to the United States."

http:(double forward slash)www.larouchepub.com(forward slash)other(forward slash)2008(forward slash)3520threat_to_clinton.html

The Democratic presidential nomination process is still in progress. Obama does not have the requisite number of delegates for the nomination; he has no presumptive lock on the nomination. All remaining states must vote and the superdelegates must select the most qualified presidential candidate using their indepedent judgment. Sen. Clinton is the most qualified presidential candidate and she must continue her fight for the future of America. All rational Democrats should contribute frequently to the Hillary Clinton Campaign at HillaryClinton.com.

Posted by: crat3 | May 10, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

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