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McCain Touts Environmental Record; Disputes Huffington Claim


Republican presidential candidate, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., center, laughs while speaking with former Gov. Thomas Kean, R-N.J., left, and Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., at Liberty Science Center at Liberty State Park on May 9, 2008, in Jersey City, N.J. (Associated Press)

Updated 5:00 p.m.
By Juliet Eilperin
JERSEY CITY, N.J. -- Flanked by former New Jersey Gov. Tom Kean (R) and Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (I-Conn.), Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) touted his environmental record in the Liberty Science Center.

Competing with the shouts of more than 3,000 boisterous children touring the museum nearby, McCain said he would make global warming one of his top priorities if elected this fall.

"As president, I will dedicate myself to addressing the issue of climate change globally," he said. "I think there's no doubt our environment globally is challenged, that our environment in this country is challenged."

When questioned by a local reporter about his commitment to environmental issues, McCain argued he had done more to address the issue of climate change than either Democratic Sens. Barack Obama (Ill.) or Hillary Clinton (N.Y.).

"Senator Lieberman and I brought legislation on this issue to the floor long before Senator Obama or Senator Clinton had any involvement whatsoever," he said.

Lieberman echoed that theme, saying his GOP colleague started out as a global warming skeptic but became convinced he had to act after hearing about the issue from voters during the 2000 presidential campaign. McCain said he would vote for the upcoming senate bill sponsored by Lieberman and Sen. John Warner, provided they can work out language providing support for the use of nuclear power.

"He listens, he learns when he sees something that is really a problem, he works across party lines to get something done," Lieberman said. "John's a leader. A lot of people talk about change. He has not just talked about change, he has brought about change."

Most of the questions from journalists during the press conference, however, centered on other controversial topics that have emerged in the campaign in recent days. When a reporter asked why McCain had touted the fact that a Hamas spokesman had spoken favorably of Obama, he defended making the connection even as he insisted he did not think his opponent sympathized with the terrorist group.

"All I can say is it's very obvious to everyone that Senator Obama shares nothing of the values or goals of Hamas, which is a terrorist organization. I think that's obvious. I've never implied anything else," he said, adding that the comments of a Hamas spokesman remain "a legitimate topic of discussion" in the campaign. "I think that's of interest to the American people, and that's something that needs to be discussed, why his policies meet the approval of the spokesman of Hamas."

McCain added that he would continue to question other aspects of Obama's Middle East policy, such as his willingness to meet with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Just yesterday, the senator noted, Ahmadinejad called Israel on the occasion of the 60th anniversary of its founding "a stinking corpse, a stinking corpse."

When it comes to meeting with such a leader, McCain said, "that is a distinct difference between myself and Senator Obama."

And despite the fact that several attendees of a January 2001 Hollywood dinner have now said McCain told a group of them that he did not vote for President Bush in the 2000 election, McCain flatly denied the allegation.

"I voted, campaigned for, worked as hard as I could for President Bush's election in 2000 and 2004," he said. "It's nonsense."

McCain called the dispute, which was sparked by comments liberal blogger Arianna Huffington posted Monday on her website, "hardly worth our time. This happened eight years ago."

Later Friday afternoon, Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean issued a statement Governor Dean issued a statement in response to McCain's speech in N.J. "Senator McCain can cast himself as a friend of the environment all he wants, but the only friends he really stands up for are the donors and lobbyists running his campaign," Dean said. "The voters know that Senator McCain's campaign rhetoric on the environment means nothing when he's willing to give his donors sweetheart deals and appoint right wing judges bent on gutting environmental regulations. Senator McCain's hypocrisy on ethics and lobbying reform is one more reason he is the wrong choice for America's future."

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regarding Hamas "supporting" Obama...Doesn't Bush tell us at every turn that bin Laden calls Iraq the central front in the WAR ON TERROR? Bush bases his policy partly on this? So now we take strategic advice based on what bin Laden says?

Osama would like nothing else than have us staying in Iraq killing al Sadr thugs, Sunnis, Shiite seperatists, etc. and not devoting our resources to killing...AL QUEDA!

Posted by: dave | May 12, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

What's funny is how many Democratic voters were shouting with glee when Kerry indicated that he was considering McCain for VP. Now that McCain's running for president as a Republican he's evil, a liar, and no better than Bush? Can't people look beyond a letter that's next to a name for once? I'm looking forward to seeing McCain vs. Obama. I see them both as offering very different solutions, but both with their hearts in the right place.

Posted by: P | May 12, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

It sounds like the Maverick is still with us.

Posted by: KYJurisDoctor | May 12, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

It sounds like the Maverick is still with us.

Posted by: KYJurisDoctor | May 12, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse


Mc CAIN is not for the environment.

The environment is not just the weather and trees and animals. It includes human beings as well.

CAIN will make sure we continue to have our American brothers and sisters die abroad.

CAIN will make sure we continue to have our American brothers and sisters without medical protection when they are in need.

CAIN will make sure we continue to have our American brothers and sisters loose their homes by foreclosure.

CAIN will make sure we continue to have our American brothers and sisters be denied basic human rights.

CAIN was ready to change parties when he lost to Bush. He would flip flop as needed when it comes to remaining in power.

CAIN lies when he says he will not higher our taxes. US is bankrupt and still pays to build Iraq. There is no more money...We will have to pay it. Taxes will go up with all candidates.

Free Education and Health Care are basic human rights.

People are part of the environment as well, and CAIN is not for the American people. CAIN is just for himself.

Posted by: Alma | May 11, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Mc CAIN is not for the environment.

The environment is not just the weather and trees and animals. It includes human beings as well.

CAIN will make sure we continue to have our American brothers and sisters die abroad.

CAIN will make sure we continue to have our American brothers and sisters without medical protection when they are in need.

CAIN will make sure we continue to have our American brothers and sisters loose their homes by foreclosure.

CAIN will make sure we continue to have our American brothers and sisters be denied basic human rights.

CAIN was ready to change parties when he lost to Bush. He would flip flop as needed when it comes to remaining in power.

CAIN lies when he says he will not higher our taxes. US is bankrupt and still pays to build Iraq. There is no more money...We will have to pay it. Taxes will go up with all candidates.

Free Education and Health Care are basic human rights.

People are part of the environment as well, and CAIN is not for the American people. CAIN is just for himself.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 11, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

McCain's vote in favor of the Lieberman bill is contingent on the fact that they put in something about nuclear power. So if the bill doesn't offer support for nuclear power, but still requires a cut-down in carbon emissions, then it's not getting McCain's support basically.

He doesn't seem to be bending over too backwards too much on the environmental issue. He believes global warming exists; great, anything else? At least the Liberty Science Center probably made for a good photo-op, if nothing else.

Posted by: GregB | May 10, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

mcCain really has given up any semblance of integrity. How funny this election is. We get to see the Clintons and McCain walk away from their carefully hewn legacies, revealing themselves for what they truly are: raving, lying, low-life, racist, scumbags.

Posted by: jeffp | May 10, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

If anyone thinks McCain is a great environmentalist, then why did he just support giving up federal land in Arizona to a donor who plans to develop the land for commerical use.

Posted by: Walt | May 9, 2008 7:37 PM

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McCain is one of those who thinks smart development in areas that are conducive to development, and preservation of areas that are conducive to preservation, is the right way to go. In other words, his views dovetail with a huge majority of Americans on this issue.

A small area near a population center will be developed in exchange for a huge tract of unspoiled habitat. You all can spin it all you want, but the fact is this was a good deal for everyone involved. And it happened because McCain drove the issue to completion. Kudos to McCain.

Posted by: theduke | May 10, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

The environment is an urban myth, don't believe it.

Posted by: hammerdown | May 10, 2008 2:44 AM | Report abuse

Hola! I'm Back! :-)

Folks, First-Good Links!

Now, be aware we have only been scratching the surface of testing methods, and that Gases(CO2) are quite likely to escape past a certain SATURATION POINT!

What is much more telling, is traces of certain types of Sediment anomalies.(CO3).

Now Kiddies, be aware that the Quote about CO2 Emissions in relation to Volcanic activity, IS EXACTLY MY POINT.

We are in an unbelievable Volcanic Lull! Have been for too long! It ain't gonna Last!

THEN, when did I ever say we are NOT Contributing? Heeeelloooooo, SEVEN Billion People!? Uh, Yeah, we are contributing. I'll yield to that reality-& I'll also laugh at any nut job that refuses to accept that one!

MY Point, Big Gay Al Gore's sniveling, is based on some pretty damn minor issues! As I tried pointing out, The MOTHER, Nature, can easily out-do us, easily!

What we have done, is LOWERED the Bar! We have tweaked a vulnerable System of Buffers-to Buffer!

It is the Buffer called the Thermohaline Conveyor fed by downwelling Hyper-Salinated heavier Water produced by Ice Formation off Greenland, suffering the lack of charging the warmer environment(NOW), causes, that will affect the Upper Current we call the Gulf Stream.

The interruption of the Gulf Stream is what freezes over first Europe, then the rest of the Northern Hemisphere. The Southern Hemisphere is where MOST Volcanic activity occurs, and the Volcanic activity is quite possibly what has affect the Ozone down there!

Another good source of Info-Ocean Currents"Climate". It gets into the Kyoto findings regarding the Thermohaline conveyor.

What I am trying to DRIVE HOME;

Is we are heading into a REBOUND, and we would be a whole lot better off working on Shelters, Resistant Crops, and other Preparations NOW, than when we are FREEZING OUR BUTTS OFF!

Savvy?

Posted by: RAT-The | May 9, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

feastorafamine:

I will look up "CHARNGE" just as soon as you look up "ENTIRE" : )

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

CHECK OUT GIG BY CHARLES WEBSTER BAER


http://globalinternetgovernment.com


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Posted by: charles webster baer | May 9, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Not to mention the U.S. had the coolest April temps in 11 years: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/cag3/na.html

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 7:59 PM

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AGAIN You show your ignorance with relation to.....
Global Climate CHANGE
See the word CHARNGE?
It means swings, it doesnt mean that everything is getting hotter. UGH
IGNORANT
The ocean temps have gotten colder as well, but HOTTER near the poles. You seem to have NO CLUE how global climate change effects the earth. It seems you are living with the delusional notion that global climate CHANGE means everthing MUST be getting hotter.
KOOKY.

Posted by: feastorafamine | May 9, 2008 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Not to mention the U.S. had the coolest April temps in 11 years: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/cag3/na.html

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

If anyone thinks McCain is a great environmentalist, then why did he just support giving up federal land in Arizona to a donor who plans to develop the land for commerical use.

Posted by: Walt | May 9, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

pn:

I think "DIANE" has something to do with the Moon, actually. Did you take a look at electoral-vote.com ?

feastorafamine:

I guess that was someone else who said "The ENTIRE scientific community ... concludes that man IS effecting climate change." Sorry to bother you.

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 7:02 PM

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YES i did. The entire community. Can you read?
THE ONLY scientific study group who is NON-commital to climate change is....
A
merican Association of Petroleum Geologists (AAPG)
OOPS!
With the July 2007 release of the revised statement by the American Association of Petroleum Geologists, NO REMAINING SCIENTIFIC BODY OF NATIONAL OR INTERNATIONAL STANDING IS KNOWN TO REJECT THE FINDINGS OF HUMAN INFLUENCE ON RECENT CLIMATE CHANGE.

When i say the entire community i mean anyone who has a reputation to protect or a leg to stand on.
Find me a scientists who disputes global warming and most likely the sceientific community would be hard pressed to label that person a scientist.
AGAIN...
I ask you this..
Is this your argument against global warming? Tryiong to pasrse my words or that you can find a crackpot that will say otherwise? That is the best you got? Whats next typos or spelling errors? A pie eating contest?
MORON.
I guess the ENTIRE scientific community with any credability is flat out wrong. Interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

pn:

I think "DIANE" has something to do with the Moon, actually. Did you take a look at electoral-vote.com ?

feastorafamine:

I guess that was someone else who said "The ENTIRE scientific community ... concludes that man IS effecting climate change." Sorry to bother you.

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Or, C) I like to educate folks on little-known facts. For instance, did you know that HUSSEIN means "handsome" in Arabic?

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 3:21 PM

____________________________________________

Oh - one more thing, Jake, merely CAPITALIZING a word doesn't actually elucidate the meaning of the word.

Or else I could just write this about your ... ahem ... explanation: "DE LEUGENAAR". See, now you know Dutch, I capitalized it, after all.

Posted by: pn | May 9, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Good catch, though -- I meant "Hillary DIANE Clinton" (I suspect you aren't upset about me using her given, middle name ; )

________________________

Are you going to tell me that "DIANE" means "delusional one" in Farsi? Then I'd bite.

Posted by: pn | May 9, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

feastorafamine:

"The ENTIRE scientific community (Of which also comprises scientists who may vote in conservative fashion)Concludes that man IS effecting climate change."

So (just like "all" the economists were against the gas-tax cut), if I can find even ONE climatologist on the other side, that proves you wrong, correct?

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 5:47 PM

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No it doesnt. It's not anymore meaningful than the fact that i can find somebody out there that thinks dinosaurs still roam the earth. This is your argument against global climate change? That you can locate a crack-pot? Nice.

http://www.skygaze.com/content/strange/Dinosaurs.shtml

Posted by: feastorafamine | May 9, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

there's also no denying that McCain is AHEAD of Obama in head-to-head State polling...

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 2:40 PM
__________________________________________________

Unless of course those polls were conducted by Gallup, AP-Ipsos or the Washington Post. Guess who's ahead in those, Obama or McCain?

Go on, Jake, guess... (hint doesn't rhyme with McBain)

Or just keep making false, unfounded statements.

Posted by: pn | May 9, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Hey John Wayne,

From which of your asses did you pull this out:

"nor the necessary moral fiber to deal with leaders of the extremist Middle Eastern nations"

You start off noting facts, then drift into outrageous mischaracterization.

You must not be Christian. Or do you think the fact that the gospels tell us how Christ himself immersed himself among the sinners and engaged in debate with the corrupt officials and terrorists of the time somehow shouldn't be used as an example for us today?

WWJD? Sure as f*%k he wouldn't invade Iraq. Or nuke Iran.

And if Ahmadinejad invite JC to talk over dinner, you bet your ass he'd take up the invitation and try and spread some peace with words, rather than bombs.

But you wouldn't bet your ass would you? Where else would you get your retarded notions?

retard
verb |riˈtärd| [ trans. ]
delay or hold back in terms of progress, development, or accomplishment : his progress was retarded by his limp or his ideas were retarded by his unwillingness to think.

Posted by: pn | May 9, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

feastorafamine:

"The ENTIRE scientific community (Of which also comprises scientists who may vote in conservative fashion)Concludes that man IS effecting climate change."

So (just like "all" the economists were against the gas-tax cut), if I can find even ONE climatologist on the other side, that proves you wrong, correct?

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Another global climate change is a myth person. LOL!!!

The ENTIRE scientific community (Of which also comprises scientists who may vote in conservative fashion)Concludes that man IS effecting climate change.

Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) 2007

Joint science academies' statement 2007

Joint science academies' statement 2005

Joint science academies' statement 2001

Network of African Science Academies

U.S. National Research Council, 2001

American Meteorological Society

Royal Meteorological Society (UK)

[edit] World Meteorological Organization (WMO)

American Geophysical Union

American Institute of Physics

American Astronomical Society

American Physical Society

Federal Climate Change Science Program, 2006

[edit] National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

National Center for Atmospheric Research

American Association for the Advancement of Science

Stratigraphy Commission of the Geological Society of London

Geological Society of America

American Chemical Society

Engineers Australia (The Institution of Engineers Australia)

The Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society

European Geosciences Union

International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics

International Council for Science

THE ONLY scientific study group who is NON-commital to climate change is....
American Association of Petroleum Geologists (AAPG)

OOPS! With the July 2007 release of the revised statement by the American Association of Petroleum Geologists, no remaining scientific body of national or international standing is known to reject the basic findings of human influence on recent climate.
AGAIN....
What are YOUR sources? HOW did this become a partisan issue? WHY do conservatives feel the need to try to turn empircal data into a myth? Try sticking to reality. The moon isnt made of cheese either.

Posted by: feastorafamine | May 9, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Volcanoes do not emit more CO2 than humans. That's a ridiculous claim.

http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/science/pastcc.html

Please, the next time you want to spout off "facts," provide some sources. Legitimate sources.

Posted by: ManUnitdFan | May 9, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

ManUnitDfaThere is a "Special" that makes appearances on Channels such as the History, and National Geo. called: "The little Ace Age".

In it you will find out about when the last "Nice" period was, how it affected populations and climate, as well as what we call the "Dark Ages" that occurred that WIPED those Large Populations out.

Then, you might understand when I tell you, the survivors from the next onslaught, will Worship ME, for TRYING to get the Ostriches to get READY, and paint little Horns on Pics of Big Gay Al Gore, for distracting the Idiots NOT doing anything to get ready, with his insipid garbage about "Being nice and Warm".

Are you aware that with anything close to Normal Sea Ridge Mounts, instead of the very small ones we have now, Sea Level would be Hundreds of feet higher?

EVEN, during an Ice Age! The Holocene Transgression had Sea Level over 1,300 Feet Higher! It occurred recently(Holocene), and was due entirely to Sea Mounts expanding.

AGAIN, B.G.Al Gore, is a Blithering obnoxious Idiot taking advantage of a Natural Process we are only marginally influencing!

Aside from the So2 and Ash, wanna Guess how much Co2 that one Volcano just put out? Ozone?

In the Contest with Us, it just kicked our Buts! :-)

Posted by: RAT-The | May 9, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Straight from the horses mouth.

Lieberman says McCain didnt give a hoot about climate change until after he lost the 2000 election and decided he had to be more eco-friendly if he wanted a real shot at being President.

So he became environmentally conscious for selfish reasons...
to get more votes, and not because he started listening to the will of the American people like they are trying to propose.

Posted by: Orwells Ghost | May 9, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

The fact that McCain would seek to clarify with such vigor that he voted for Bush is exactly why he wont win the general election. What a moron. In order to shore up his right wing base he flip-flops on almost anything meaningful in order to appease the right wing and garner the nom. THEN he is too stupid to realize that sternly standing his ground that he voted for Bush is a liability. At every turn he reminds voters he is a third term for Bush. His plight is that in appeasing the far right in an attempt to reel in voters, then he has to lie in the bed he made for himself by doing it. Sweet dreams McSame.

Posted by: feastorafamine | May 9, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

I disagree with anyone who suggests a vote for Obama is a vote for McCain. Other than managing to remain a Senator for way too long, John McCain's record on winning anything is indicative that this ain't necessarily so. Certainly such speculation is no reason for Hilary Clinton to continue pursuing a lost cause, nor will it encourage many voters to support Hilary.

Given Senator McCains positions on many issues, his presidency might do more to advance Democratic interests than either of the Democratic candidates. Certainly Republican voters have little choice. Its either vote for a liberal, or vore for a liberal from the other party!

Posted by: Ed Weirdness | May 9, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

So just who is John McCain? A double-talk express that voted against George Bush in 2000 and 2004, or a straight talking conservative has stood shoulder to shoulder with President George Bush since 2000?

Posted by: john | May 9, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

"I voted, campaigned for, worked as hard as I could for President Bush's election in 2000 and 2004," McCain said.

O.K., now let's take a look at that:

a) "I voted in 2000 and 2004";

b) "I campaigned for President Bush's election in 2000 and 2004"; and

c) "I worked as hard as I could for President Bush's election in 2000 and 2004."

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

The problem with senile people is that they can't recall events. No surprise McCain can't remember if he voted for Bush or not.

Posted by: playa | May 9, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

No matter how you slice it, our next president will be stepping into a military mess that needs to be cleaned up.

Now let me ask this - Who would you rather have in office to oversee said military actions?

A.) A young Senator who lived half his life outside the US and has NO military experience, nor the necessary moral fiber to deal with leaders of the extremist Middle Eastern nations. (Willing to sit down with Ahmadinejad? Praised by Hamas? I don't know about you, but that seriously frightens me.)

B.) A corrupt and crooked senator who stood by the man that cheated on her, openly lied about it to the public, lied under oath (perjury? You and I would go to jail for that, I guess it's different because he's the President so he has a different set of laws that he needs to abide by (sarcasm)), and is partly to blame for the mess we're currently in - way to slash military funding and intelligence funding Bill. That sort of move allowed 9-11 to go overlooked due to the lack of intelligence we had in the world forum. And don't even try to say it was on Bush's watch, he had entered office less than 8 months prior. That's not nearly enough time to get intelligence up and running properly from the induced comatose state it was in under Clinton's administration. (I won't even get into the ways he responded to the attack on the USS Cole, the bombing of the US Embassys in '98)

Or C.) A decorated war veteran with over 20 years experience in the Senate?

Seems rather cut-and-dry to me.

Posted by: John Wayne | May 9, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

lieing and misrepresentation are not solely the province of Republican Candidates for President. Uts tragic that with all the wasted time and the millions in campaign dollars squandered, these three are the best we can do! We, the people, have some say in the policies our government enacts. We, the people, in near revolt, managed to prevent passage of the egregious McCain/Kennedy amnesty legislation. Regardless of who the next President is, we, the people, should be working at every level to take back our government from politicians, special interests, and serial panderers. Its not about the candidates policies and agenda, its all about our agenda.

Posted by: Ed Weirdness | May 9, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

To: Dr. Hung H. Phan

You and the Clinton's should get over your racism.
Nobody in their right mind will vote for another Clinton with all their skeletons. This is not a monarchy, we had enough "son's of" and "wive's of" in power. Let some new fresh American blood in.

BTW Bill, why not use your real name when posting?

Posted by: Dr. E | May 9, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Wow, the critical thinking skills, or lack there of, displayed in these comments is astounding. Did John McCain vote for or against Bush in the two Bush elections... the answer is obviously both. In the primaries he was running and almost certainly voted for himself. In the general elections he was no longer in contention and almost certainly voted along party lines. Neither is contradictory or strange... this is the normal behavior of candidates who don't when the primaries... and both are almost certainly true.

Posted by: Huh? | May 9, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

What does this woman have to do with anything. She puts out a newsletter and invites Hollywood characters to put their two cents in, whether they know anything or not, so she can be a part of the scenery. Who cares who McCain voted for. The real problem will be if he gets elected.

Speaking of change. We already have change. We used to have dollars. At least the change will be soon be worth more than the dollars they're printing.

We now are involved in an expensive, illegal war that is killing us daily. That's another unwelcome change not to mention that we are fighting another government and MSM special interest group created boogy man in the war on terror.

We now have another crop of illegal aliens to give amnesty to and absorb into our social infrastructure. Only, this time, it's 20 million. Keep talking about change.

About 40 years ago we owed nothing. Now we owe $10 trillion and we have no money in the bank. That is one big chunk of change.

Not too mention that our liberties have been slowly legislated away.

We've had about all of the change we can stand. We need some one who will take us back before the change.

Posted by: Web Smith | May 9, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Krusty the Clown for President!! Viva Krusty.

Posted by: Zed | May 9, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

John McCain has missed the most votes of any Senator currently serving (close to 60%). In fact, he missed more votes than he cast. 333 missed versus 231 cast. Even Tim Johnson, (D-SD), voted more and Senator Johnson missed several months due to recovering from a brain hemorage. Senator Obama is 3rd at 41% and Senator Clinton is 5th at 31%.

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/110/senate/vote-missers/

Posted by: FYI | May 9, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

OH, and he also stated that America did the right thing by ducking out of the Kyoto Treaty, but thinks we should develop an environmental and emission type pact with the rest of the world....but only by our rules.....sounds like Bush

Posted by: Oregon4Obama | May 9, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Whoa!! he is touting his environmental record when he wants to invest in Nuclear Power and drill up in Alaska...Plus he is backed by too many people and businesses who dont care about the environment for him to do anything.....

Posted by: Oregon4Obama | May 9, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

While I don't doubt that you were an Ocean Science major RAT, I'm going to trust the super-majority of real scientists who think global warming is a major concern. There's just way, way too much evidence to support it.

Posted by: ManUnitdFan | May 9, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Right, McCain is a principled environmentalist...

I'm beginning to think this whole "maverick" brand is just newspeak for claiming every position under the sun and hoping some thing will stick. I used to believe the BS that he was an independent, principled statesman--until I did the research and learned about his record of FLIP-FLOPPING on immigration, tax cuts, earmarks, and (perhaps most tragically) torture.

Posted by: TXCourtney | May 9, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

McCain and his buddy, Lieberman are claiming that McCain really is a strong environmentalist and has reached across the isle and really accomplished things. Of course he has been a non voter on all PVS issues since December 2005. What a guy. Then there are his ratings based on various environmental groups. See Project Vote Smart Below this one. For some reason he doesn't like the League of Conservation Voters. Must be the word "conservation". This is akin to Bush claiming he was dedicated to human rights (pre selection)

Pete

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04/10/2008 Housing Bill with Energy Tax Credit Extensions
HR 3221 NV Bill Passed - Senate
(84 - 12)
04/10/2008 Energy Tax Credits Amendment
S Amdt 4419 to S Amdt 4387 to HR 3221 NV Amendment Adopted - Senate
(88 - 8)
03/13/2008 Amendment on Certain Energy-Related Programs, Including the Development of Oil Shale and Offshore Natural Gas
S Amdt 4207 to S Con Res 70 NV Amendment Rejected - Senate
(47 - 51)
03/13/2008 Amendment on Certain Energy-Related Programs, Including the Development of Oil and Natural Gas in Coastal Areas Not Covered by a Moratorium
S Amdt 4329 to S Con Res 70 NV Amendment Adopted - Senate
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12/14/2007 Farm, Nutrition, and Bioenergy Act of 2007 (Farm Bill)
HR 2419 NV Bill Passed - Senate
(79 - 14)
12/13/2007 Energy Act of 2007
HR 6 NV Concurrence Vote Passed - Senate
(86 - 8)
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S Amdt 3711 to S Amdt 3500 to HR 2419 NV Amendment Rejected - Senate
(37 - 58)
11/08/2007 Water Resources Development Act of 2007
HR 1495 NV Veto Override Passed - Senate
(79 - 14)
06/21/2007 Energy Act of 2007
HR 6 NV Bill Passed - Senate
(65 - 27)
06/21/2007 Alternative Energy Subsidies
S Amdt 1704 to S Amdt 1502 to HR 6 NV Cloture Not Invoked - Senate
(57 - 36)
06/14/2007 Offshore Drilling in Virginia
S Amdt 1566 to S Amdt 1502 to HR 6 NV Amendment Rejected - Senate
(43 - 44)
06/14/2007 Clean Energy Achievement Criteria
S Amdt 1538 to S Amdt 1537 to S Amdt 1502 to HR 6 NV Motion Agreed - Senate
(56 - 39)
12/21/2005 Removal of ANWR Provision from HR 2863
S Con Res 74 NV Concurrent Resolution Adopted (Senate) - S
(48 - 45)
11/03/2005 ANWR Amendment
S 1932 Y Amendment Rejected (Senate) - S
(48 - 51)
09/13/2005 EPA's Clean Air Mercury Rule
S J Res 20 Y Resolution Failed: (Senate) - S
(47 - 51)
10/30/2003 Healthy Forests Restoration Act of 2003
HR 1904 Y Bill Passed (Senate) - S
(80 - 14)
04/06/2000 Arctic National Wildlife Refuge Drilling amendment
S Con Res 101 Y Amendment Tabled (Senate) - S
(51 - 49)
02/10/2000 Nuclear Waste Policy Amendments Act
S 1287 NV Bill Passed (Senate) - S
(64 - 34)
09/17/1996 Federal Land Grazing Fee Amendment
HR 3662 Y Tabling Motion Rejected (Senate) - S
(50 - 50)
08/02/1996 Safe Drinking Water Act Amendments of 1995
S 1316 Y Conference Report Adopted (Senate) - S
(98 - 0)


Vote Key
Y
N
NV
PY
PN
Yea
Nay
Not Voting, Excused, Absent, or Present
Pair Yea
Pair Nay

Then there are his ratings based on various environmental groups.

ow to Interpret these Evaluations

Disclaimer: Descriptions of organizations are derived from the mission statement or description produced by each organization. Project Vote Smart does not evaluate or edit these descriptions.

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2007 Based on a point system, with points assigned for actions in support of or in opposition to League of Conservation Voters's position, Senator McCain received a rating of 0.

2006 Senator McCain supported the interests of the American Land Rights Association 56 percent in 2006.

2006 Senator McCain supported the interests of the League of Conservation Voters 29 percent in 2006.

2006 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Republicans for Environmental Protection 36 percent in 2006. Points for significant non-voting actions were added to or subtracted from percentages calculated from voting records. Thus, the rating may be less than 0 or greater than 100.

2005-2006 Senator McCain supported the interests of the American Lands Alliance 50 percent in 2005-2006.

2005-2006 Senator McCain supported the interests of the American Wilderness Coalition 16 percent in 2005-2006.

2005-2006 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Comprehensive US Sustainable Population 20percent in 2005-2006.

2005-2006 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund 40 percent in 2005-2006

2005-2006 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Partnership for America 40 percent in 2005-2006.

2005 Senator McCain supported the interests of the American Land Rights Association 50 percent in 2005.

2005 Senator McCain supported the interests of the American Wilderness Coalition 50 percent in 2005.

2005 Senator McCain supported the interests of the League of Conservation Voters 45 percent in 2005.

2005 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Republicans for Environmental Protection 63 percent in 2005. Points for significant non-voting actions were added to or subtracted from percentages calculated from voting records. Thus, the rating may be less than 0 or greater than 100.

2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the American Land Rights Association 57 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund 50 percent in 2004.

2003-2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the American Lands Alliance 0 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the American Wilderness Coalition 75 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Comprehensive US Sustainable Population 0 percent on natural increase issues in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Comprehensive US Sustainable Population 30percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Comprehensive US Sustainable Population 31percent on immigration issues in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Comprehensive US Sustainable Population 58percent on conservation/consumption/preservation issues in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the League of Conservation Voters 56 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the National Parks Conservation Association 60 percent in 2003-2004.

2003 Senator McCain supported the interests of the American Land Rights Association 67 percent in 2003.

2003 Senator McCain supported the interests of the American Lands Alliance 0 percent in 2003.

2003 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Comprehensive US Sustainable Population 26 percent in 2003.

2003 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund 36 percent in 2003.

2003 Senator McCain supported the interests of the League of Conservation Voters 53 percent in 2003.

2003 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Sierra Club 40 percent in 2003.

2002 Senator McCain supported the interests of the California Park & Recreation Society 33 percent in 2002.

2001-2002 Senator McCain supported the interests of the American Land Rights Association 70 percent in 2001-2002.

2001-2002 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Comprehensive US Sustainable Population 32percent in 2001-2002.

2001-2002 Senator McCain supported the interests of the League of Conservation Voters 36 percent in 2001-2002.

2001 Senator McCain supported the interests of the American Land Rights Association 86 percent in 2001.

2000 Senator McCain supported the interests of the American Land Rights Association 62 percent in 2000.

1999-2000 Senator McCain supported the interests of the American Lands Alliance 0 percent in 1999-2000.

1999-2000 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Comprehensive US Sustainable Population 7 percent in 1999-2000.

1999-2000 Senator McCain supported the interests of the League of Conservation Voters 6 percent in 1999-2000.

1999 Senator McCain supported the interests of the American Land Rights Association 22 percent in 1999.

1999 Senator McCain supported the interests of the League of Conservation Voters 11 percent in 1999.

1998 Senator McCain supported the interests of the League of Conservation Voters 13 percent in 1998.

1997-1998 Senator McCain supported the interests of the American Land Rights Association 88 percent in 1997-1998.

1997 Senator McCain supported the interests of the American Land Rights Association 71 percent in 1997.

1997 Senator McCain supported the interests of the League of Conservation Voters 29 percent in 1997.

1995-1996 On the votes that the League of Conservation Voters considered to be the most important in 1995-1996 , Senator McCain voted their preferred position 11 percent of the time.

1994 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Competitive Enterprise Institute - Environment 78percent in 1994.


Posted by: Peter Lund | May 9, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, if Hilary Clinton truly feels she the best choice, I say she should run as an independent. Joe Lieberman did and it worked. Running as an independent, Senator Clinton would have a chance to distance herself from some of the goofiest Democratic Dogma that prevents sane moderates and liberal leaning Republicans and Independents from supporting her now.

Posted by: Ed Weirdness | May 9, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

I am voting for McCain because the roaches beneath my sink cupboards told me Marilyn Monroe is a Arab! Thank God we have a peice of bubble gum big enough to chew all the way to Topeka, Kansas because you know that HIll-Barama is going to flodd the snow cone parlours with sticky cookie monster tape on ABC News & underwear. Go McCain! Show them your metal plate and ju-ju bees aren't made of juniper tea and sneezy woodles!

Posted by: Ted,, the valley | May 9, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

there's also no denying that McCain is AHEAD of Obama in head-to-head State polling...And, McCain would LOSE to Clinton (if the vote was held today).

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 2:40 PM
_____________
Polls this far out from election day are utterly meaningless. General election polling in June 1992 showed Bill Clinton running third and it looked like Ross Perot was going to win rather decisively. In 2004, at this point, John Kerry was leading Bush II. In 1988, at one point, Dukakis held a 17-point lead over Bush I. Obviously, ALL those early polls were dead wrong.

Sen. McCain has been getting a free ride for the last several months and there's a great deal about his true history, past behaviors and voting records that have never been fully aired. And he is also tacking further to the right almost daily, while wedding himself to the Bush policies that have caused so much harm to so many ordinary Americans.

And one more point. While Sen. Clinton can honestly tout that working class whites have not supported Sen. Obama and the men most likely never will, at least half of those working class white voters are women who will be facing the almost dead certainty that McCain will appoint Supreme Court Justices who will overturn Roe v. Wade and other reproductive rights and give even more protection to businesses that discriminate against their female and minority employees. White working class men may support those kinds of judicial appointments but women will not, even if it means voting for Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Interesting how he did not say that he voted for Bush...just that he "supported" him

Posted by: OSU 71 | May 9, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Once AGAIn Jake
Are you simply interested in giving us a history lesson or translation of the middle name? Is that your intent? ORRRR
Is is fear mongering?
We arent stupid.
Did you know the hamster originates from Syria? This little piece of trivia is equally as important and relevant to this election as your little nugget of wisom.
This however seems pretty wise to me...

Bill Clinton in 2004:
"Now one of Clinton's Laws of Politics is
this: If one candidate's trying to scare
you and the other one's trying to get you
to think; if one candidate's appealing to
your fears and the other one's appealing
to your hopes, you better vote for the
person who wants you to think and hope.
That's the best."

Posted by: feastorafamine | May 9, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Our wonderful and beautiful democracy, with it's hateful, dirty politics. The rest of the world must be envious. We should be ashamed of our dirty politics and the way we elect presidents.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

pn:

Or, C) I like to educate folks on little-known facts. For instance, did you know that HUSSEIN means "handsome" in Arabic?

Good catch, though -- I meant "Hillary DIANE Clinton" (I suspect you aren't upset about me using her given, middle name ; )

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

What good does his environmental "record" do when he supports deregulation of everything?

Which of his statements, if any, can we believe if he's telling different people different things?

Maybe he'd like to talk about Sheriff Joe Arpaio next vs. his stand on immigration? He's done nothing to reign the man in, yet he's supposed to be some kind of "moderate" ...

Posted by: Joe | May 9, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

OOPS!
SurveyUSA interviewed 600 registered voters in each of the 50 states. A total of 30,000 interviews were completed. If John McCain faces Barack Obama, Obama wins 280 to 256. McCain carries 26 states. Obama carries 24 states plus the District of Columbia ... and then there is Nebraska, which divides its electoral votes based on which candidate wins each of the state's congressional districts. McCain wins Nebraska 45% to 42%, but loses in two of the state's three congressional districts, which results in Barack Obama taking two of Nebraska's five electoral votes.

http://www.surveyusa.com/index.php/2008/03/06/electoral-math-as-of-030608-obama-280-mccain-258/

OOPS!
ttp://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

Your GOP boogyman fear mongering about electability is desperate to say the least.

McCain's enviormental record?
When the League of Conservation Voters (LCV) released its annual environmental rankings last month, McCain - whose campaign website declares him "a leader on the issue of global warming" - earned a zero for missing all of the group's votes on key green issues. He was one of nine Republicans scoring the lowest possible rating.

Posted by: feastorafamine | May 9, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Say what you will about McCain's environmental record, you have to remember that Obama's on record - and recently, in Montana - as supporting so-called "clean coal", which is about the worst possible thing this country could do.

Posted by: James | May 9, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if the Democrats are aware that voting for Obama is voting for Mc. Cain, they play right into the hands of the Republicans strategists, because they know Obama is no match for Mc. Cain a war hero and a senator for 20 years.
Demoratic super delegates- please wake up, no more dream please, only Hillary can defeat Mc. Cain in a general election, the American people are not ready to have an African American as a president yet.Why are you so afraid of Hillary as presiden? You do not want the Clintons to have another successful presidency?
Get over your jealousy and you mean spirit!

Posted by: Dr. Hung H. Phan | May 9, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

McCain ran against Bush in 2000 and 2004 it's obvious he didn't think Bush was the right man otherwise McCain wouldn't run against him. It would make sense for McCain to say he didn't vote for Bush.

It doesn't make sense to run against Bush and then vote for Bush and then to run against Bush again and then vote for Bush again. That doesn't make sense at all. To do that would make a person appear like he doesn't know how to make a decision.

Posted by: Dean | May 9, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

McCain is a dangerous man. Don'tlet him near that button.

Posted by: Westexacan | May 9, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

oops, I meant "Either way, it's an idiotic thing to write."

I guess the words "idiotic" and "right" just go together so naturally...

Posted by: pn | May 9, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

JakeD:

Not sure who the heck Hillary DIANE Hillary is but going out of your way to CAPITALIZE Obama's middle name means you're either trying to scare people (which makes you an idiot) or you believe one of the following:

A - the American people are so stupid that they believe a middle name says something about a person's character

B - a middle name says something about a person's character

Either way, it's an idiotic thing to right. I'll reserve judgement about you're character until you tell me YOUR middle name, 'kay?

Posted by: pn | May 9, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Notice: Most Americans (that includes Democrats and everyone else) are not consumed with the gotcha-game that hysterical supporters and political pundits live for. The majority of Americans simply want the government to give them a fair shake and get hell out of the way the rest of the time, regardless of which candidate they may support.

Posted by: soothsayer | May 9, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

I will vote for McCain, Obama or Clinton, which ever best expresses the principles and traditions of the Democratic Party.

Posted by: Sejanus | May 9, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

ManUnitDfan-That article was dated 5/7/08.

The Volcano is actively getting stronger. Then, as mentioned, there is an active Site developing in Indonesia. THEN, we have Reno!

The Sea-Mounts are also all at Historically low levels. Now, combine in the possibility of the Thermohaline Conveyor potentially Failing enough to cut off the Gulf Stream fed by it.

Trust this Ocean Science Major, Al Gore is an IDIOT! We should be doing everything possible to get ready for the Cool Down, NOT Sniveling about a beneficial Warm Period!

Ice Ages occurr Suddenly, and KILL!

Posted by: RAT-The | May 9, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Arianna Huffington and some actors from the West Wing said it so it must be true!

Posted by: Johnny MadeUpName | May 9, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Republicans will not find a redemption at any level. GOP is now the party of extremists gathered around abusive and foul radio shows with a flag in one hand and a cross in another. The big wigs have fled the GOP for greener pastures in the global economy. With their Potemkin facade in the national economy and foreign policy crumbled GOP nearly brought ruin even to the Wall Street. This is an unimaginative party of feudals unfit to advance America in a competitive global economy. Instead, to hang on a little longer, they exploit our love of America and deplete our wealth in fighting bare feet inconsequential paupers.

Posted by: Julian | May 9, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Regardless of any single issue, it comes down to the fact that Hillary DIANE Hillary can win Florida and Barack HUSSEIN Obama can't -- there's also no denying that McCain is AHEAD of Obama in head-to-head State polling.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/May09.html

And, McCain would LOSE to Clinton (if the vote was held today).

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Clinton/Maps/May09.html

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Why isn't the mainstream media jumping all over McCain for lying about voting for Bush? This is much more relevant than whether Hillary lied about ducking snipers in Bosnia.

Posted by: Steve L | May 9, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

McCain will lie and say anything to become POTUS before he dies. We are already seeing what a McCain presidency will be like: lies, lies, and more lie.

We've had eight years of that already. Enough!

Imagine if George W. Bush had a say in our government until the day he died. Well he does. One of his famous executive orders has given him the right to control what we know about his administration not just until he dies but forever!

Read Orders and Acts and Lies. Oh my!

With McCain in office, we might as well have Bush remain. One Republican's lies are the same as another.

When are the cowards who are supposed to represent us, you know, We The People, going to do something for this country?

There is no longer an Us in the UsA.

Posted by: MsJoanne | May 9, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

"I voted, campaigned for, worked as hard as I could for President Bush's election in 2000 and 2004," he said. "It's nonsense."

Thank you Mr. McCain.
Love,
The DNC

Posted by: Howard | May 9, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Why won't he just write "environmentalist" under "straight talk" on the side of the bus? That way the media won't question it and start looking at his poor record when he actually voted (was absent quite a few times). If it's on the side of a bus, how can it not be true?

Posted by: Bus Boy | May 9, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

That doesn't even make sense RAT. So because of the ash and sulfur dioxide being emitted by a couple volcanoes, global warming isn't a problem? A. There's not enough emitted from that volcano do make any difference. Here's some reading for you:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/05/080507105654.htm

B. Even if volcanoes erupted worldwide and cooled the Earth for 3 years, then what? Back to global warming. I plan on living longer than 3 years, do you?

Posted by: ManUnitdFan | May 9, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Why wouldn't Cindy McCain release her tax records? How much money has that crook McCain stashed away inher accounts?

Posted by: playa | May 9, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

While the Real-Estate developer with the Best connections available(Big Time) espouses his MORONIC garbage about business destroying regulations to ease Global Warming;

The Chaiten Volcano is actively dumping Ash and SO2 into the Stratosphere easing said "Warming" for Years to come.

If one or two others(Like the one in Indonesia about to blow), also contribute, we could QUICKLY be looking at an Ice Age-DREAMING of all the nice warm weather conditions we squandered NOT getting ready for what I have been warning about!

Someone get that Dirty Old Man OUT of this Election!

We have been set up with a LOSER!

Only beneficiaries with a McCain Ticket:World Labor Party, and World Labor Party loving Invasarios!

Posted by: RAT-The | May 9, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: ManUnitdFan | May 9, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

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