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The Real Race Begins


Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), smiles during an interview taping with CNN's Wolf Blitzer, left, on "The Situation Room" in Washington, May 8, 2008. (Associated Press)

By Dan Balz
The political talk this week has been all about Hillary Clinton and the probable end to her campaign for the Democratic nomination.

The real focus should be on Barack Obama and what his campaign for the nomination tells us about the kind of candidate he would be in a general election against John McCain.

Obama's return to Capitol Hill on Thursday -- marked by a giddy reception from lawmakers and throngs of well wishers in attendance -- underscored the growing sense of inevitability that he will lead the Democrats into the fall. If uncommitted superdelegates are not moving to him in a rush right now, there is every indication that, once the June 3 primaries are wrapped up, the nomination battle will come to a quick and predictable conclusion.

Obama will be tempted to savor the next weeks as the final six primaries play out -- although he is likely to lose half of them. History suggests he would be better off undertaking a hard-headed analysis of the strengths and weaknesses that the long nomination battle have exposed and begin to make a rapid transition to general election politics and preparation.

Begin with the pluses. Obama has proven himself to be a strong and durable candidate -- eloquent, inspiring and energizing. His change message rides atop a powerful wave of discontent across the country after eight years of George W. Bush's presidency. More than any other candidate who competed for either party's nominations, Obama has made change the core of his campaign message.

For a novice, which it is easy to forget he was when this campaign began in early 2007, he has demonstrated impressive skills as a candidate. He showed patience when Clinton was being called the all-but-inevitable nominee and he performed impressively at big moments, such as the Iowa Jefferson Jackson Dinner last November. He is a far better candidate today than he was when he started.

Obama has been a largely mistake-free candidate, save for several notable exceptions, such as his now famous "bitter" comments at a San Francisco fundraiser. He did not start out as a strong debater and debates are still not his best forum, but he has gotten better and more comfortable. His last debate in Philadelphia, when he was pummeled with questions, was certainly not a high point, but in a series of head-to-head encounters with Clinton over the past three months, he more than held his own.

The long campaign has toughed Obama for a general election. Even some Clinton loyalists respect the resilience he showed in weathering a very difficult six weeks, highlighted by the controversy over the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. That kind of turbulence could have undone a weaker candidate. Instead, Obama persevered and survived.

He assembled a first-rate campaign team and trusted them to devise and execute a strategy that has now put him in position to defeat a Clinton operation that long has been judged the gold standard in Democratic politics. In contrast to the Clinton operation, Obama's team has avoided destructive internecine warfare, and has kept disagreements inside the family and off the front pages.

Obama's team understood and exploited the rules of the Democratic nominating process. Clinton's did not. Even when she was far ahead in the polls, Obama advisers began to prepare for a contest that would go to Feb. 5 and beyond. Clinton's team was caught flat-footed.

Obama's campaign has two other assets heading toward a likely general election: money and organization. His financial advantage over McCain between now and the nominating conventions at the end of the summer will be even larger than that which he has enjoyed over Clinton. His ability to start a general election advertising campaign soon and sustain it at high levels throughout the summer puts Democrats in a position they've not been in the past two elections.

Organizationally, Obama's campaign has been stellar -- and will have put down roots in every state in the country. That is a significant asset heading into a general election campaign. The top of the Obama campaign is replete with people whose roots are in field operations and over the past 16 months the campaign has developed a new cadre of battle-tested organizers who can now go manage operations in the battleground states.

But questions linger from the long Democratic contest. For all the time Obama has spent on the campaign trail, there are many voters -- particularly those who have not participated in the Democratic primaries but who are up for grabs in November -- who still don't really know him. Rev. Wright was the single biggest reminder that Obama will face dissonance as he tries to write his own story.

Obama's advisers have spoken repeatedly about the need to introduce or reintroduce their candidate. Are voters fully comfortable with Barack Obama? What can or must he do to allay any concerns that may exist about his values, his biography, his heart? McCain's campaign already has played a not-so-subtle patriotism card against Obama in its early advertising. There will be more.

Nor is Obama well defined on the question of what he would do as president. His campaign advisers would reject that claim, pointing to any number of speeches and proposals on health care, the economy, the housing crisis, middle class tax cuts and ending the war in Iraq. But Obama's core message is much more about process than substance: changing politics to change policies. What are his real priorities and how would he accomplish them?

His policy proposals make him appear to be an orthodox liberal, while his message is unity and reaching across party lines. Those don't easily fit together and Obama will have to articulate more fully why they are not in conflict with one another.

Then there is the weakness that has been exposed throughout the campaign against Clinton, which is his difficulty corralling the votes of white, working class voters. Despite his focus on those voters in recent weeks, he did no better with them North Carolina than he had in Pennsylvania and Ohio and only marginally better with them in Indiana. The fact that he has avoided West Virginia this week -- and expects to lose overwhelmingly there next week -- speaks to that weakness.

The Clinton campaign issued an analysis Friday underscoring their contention that she does better in swing districts than Obama, arguing anew that she would be a better candidate to take on McCain. Of 20 districts that Democrats picked up in 2006 but that went for Bush in 2004, Clinton has won 16 and Obama 4, by the Clinton camp's analysis.

Obama advisers argue that he will be a more compelling candidate to many of these voters when matched against McCain than he has been against Clinton because he will have an economic message that is more appealing. But he has much work to do on this front.

Obama is on the brink of claiming a remarkable victory in the nomination battle -- and against an impressive and formidable opponent. But in McCain, he will face another opponent who has demonstrated dogged determination and resilience equal to or greater than Clinton's. He should take nothing for granted from his success in the primaries.

By Web Politics Editor  |  May 9, 2008; 1:46 PM ET
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Well... the 'younger college educated' may blindly follow a slick tongued politician into the ocean just like the lemmings.

Not taking a 'shot' at them but FEW if any are willing to put their mouth where their money is. They know all about the internet, x-box 'shooter games'.. BUT have NEVER been shot at or volunteered to be part of the military machine. They are keen on networking, politicing... but very few know what it means to work in a factory to pay their way through college. They come from the me generation where mother and father work jobs to GIVE them 100 dollar shoes, 75 dollar games to playon their Xbox..

In other words... they put posters up in their room with $$$$ because they are in college ONLY to make money.

Gas just reached 4.95 in my area. Diesel is at 4.48 per gallon.

It is the politicians... like OBAMAASS Hilliary and McCain that have been allowed to run this country into the ground. We just had the worst eight years under the control of a despot.. that runs a war that COSTS the american people 5000 KIA and to many physically and mentally maimed individuals. Those in college do not march in the streets protesting against the war in Vietnam, or social awareness.

They march to the tune of OBAMA LAND.

Well... If OBAMA is elected in the fall... YOU and they will be responsible for the future of the United States. And guess what... I will be laughing... because I will be saying I told you so.

At least McCain has served his country in the time of war... did not dodge the draft like GOD BUSH. And is a better man than OBAMA.

BUT he is the best of those running today..

Hillary did not win because of Bill, and being a female... BUT we knew her baggage.

Obama is the MAN OF MYSTERY. To slick to be trustworthy... to many holes in his story about his life, less than nothing accomplished as a politicians... OTHER than to USE anyone and anything to achieve his goals... Elite, cocky PRESIDENT we do not need.

Have fun my fellow Americans. Remember that you DO NOT CONTROL your destiny.. you are bought and paid for by the Rich on both sides of the sheet... Both the GOP and the DNC care nothing about YOU THE VOTER.

Just power and who has got the money.

Posted by: Miller51550 | May 21, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

GO HILLARY!!!!! If she does not get the nomination I encourage everyone to vote for Mcain.

All us independants unite!!

Posted by: shar in va | May 14, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Its almost officially Obama vs McCain, and I must say I'm concerned. All the generic Democratic vs Republican candidate polling has the Dem winning in a landslide. But McCain is running very close to either Dem, and he polls very well in swing states also. I can only hope this is a mirage - that when the Dems are united behind Obama and the public realizes that McCain is not the "maverick" many think he is, that Obama will open up a large polling lead and win in November. But, Obama's big losses to Hillary amongst whites is cause for concern. This sorry situation may mean McCain could win because of racism alone.
The overriding question of this election is whether voters want to continue with the path Bush has laid out for America. If yes, vote for McCain. If not, vote Obama. It really is that simple. Most else just comes down to race or a popularity contest - and people who think like that should stay home on election day.

Posted by: Robert | May 11, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Hi all

Goodbye all

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Hi all

Goodbye all

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Hi all

Goodbye all

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Dan Balz, you are pathetic - What a stupid analysis. I can't wait to see Obama lose 40 states in November. Where is fair journalism?

Dan, you are one of those biased journalists contributing to the problems of this great country.

Bye bye to Washington Post. I will tell all my friends to boycott WashingtonPost.


Posted by: Audacity | May 10, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

I may be just a young girl in college, but even I can see through Obama's empty rhetoric of lofty "hope" and undefined "change." It amazes me that so many others have been suckered in by this sleazy used car salesman!

Posted by: Taylor | May 10, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Obama made change the core of his message, and it looks like that's all it takes to impress the writers on here. Where's the depth?

I guess when you've had 8 years of what many historians are considering the worst president in history, then a guy who comes down from the clouds and speaks eloquently is enough to make people go ga-ga.

Dan Balz says that his advisers would point to his various speeches on health care, tax cuts, and ending the Iraq war to prove that he has a defined plan if he takes the White House. The universal health care plan: it gets carried out every election like a show-dog and then gets put to sleep like Old Yeller once the campaign is over.

Troop withdrawals in Iraq: We're going to be stuck there alot longer than the candidates are making it think (not including McCain in that of course).

I'm still having a hard time figuring out what Obama is going to do. Maybe if we weren't all wrapped up in the Jeremiah Wright nonsense, bowling scores, and WWE appearances, then we'd get somewhere, but I guess not.

Posted by: GregB | May 10, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Like the first poster, I'm pragmatic, and want the candidate with experience. When finally revealed, Hillary's itinerary showed she had far less experience than she let on. A First Lady does not Presidential experience make. Taken together, Obama's *direct* work in politics- for which he was earning a paycheck- exceeds Hillary's. He also has another very valuable type of experience- that of living overseas and in Hawaii, learning how the rest of the world thinks.

Of course, all together, Hillary has more political experience than Obama, simply because she's 14 years older. But then, you have to include her experiene at all levels of politics- like when she was campaigning for Nixon as a teenager.

Posted by: Jedidiah Palosaari | May 10, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

If Hillary goes down, as she is likely to do, it will signal a huge mistake for the Democratic party. And, like most infatuations, the party will be embarrassed by its once swooning support of the man who inspires but falls well short when delivering detailed plans rather than platitudes. If elected president, one poor performing term at the hands of the inexperienced Obama could cause grave damage to the Democratic party with a citizenry hungry for quick problem-solving and change. A pragmatist like me prefers less cheerleading ("Yes We Can") and much more deliberative strategy. I don't think that is where Obama's strengths are. Unfortunately, if Obama is the Democratic nominee, I am seriously weighing whether a sacrifice of four more years to the Republicans would do less harm than four years of in ill-equipped Obama. My conclusion so far is that it would.

Posted by: WV-DC | May 10, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

John McCain is NO moderate...He votes in 95% agreement with President Bush...McCain also favors FAR right Supreme Court justices (Scalia, Thomas, etc.)....The media keeps letting the phony McCain get away with it...His free ride will end soon, & voters will see in countless ads just how far right & SIMILAR to Bush McCain is....

McCain is an angry old pug, who neither has the intelligence, character, nor temperment to be POTUS....He is an absolute disgrace, & we haven't even mentioned his support for the $400 million day disaster in Iraq....

Either Democrat gets my vote in November, though I'm for Obama & have donated $300 thus far to his campaign...

Posted by: Richard | May 10, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Obama
my Captain
bring change and bring excellence back

Posted by: eljefejesus | May 10, 2008 3:15 AM | Report abuse

proseandcon- Bloviator;

HITLER OVER-RAN EUROPE, because "People" LIKE YOU, thought THEY WERE SO SMART!!!! YOU AWARE OF THAT?!!!!

Studies proved most of you AREN'T! If YOU ever want ME, to support YOUR Candidate-YOU BETTER GET SMARTER! ;~)

Posted by: RAT-The | May 10, 2008 2:51 AM | Report abuse

"Clinton won more than two-thirds of the white voters without college degrees in the last three primaries... When those Clinton supporters were asked who they would vote for in an Obama-McCain matchup, fewer than half said they would support Obama.

This is due in large part to the "Ward Churchill Syndrome." Most college educated people for the past 30 years have been victims of post-Vietnam blame America first professors."

Well, that's certainly the zebra possibility. But might it be plausible that the reason that college-educated voters are supporting Obama is because, I don't know, they know more about the world? They know that the gas holiday is BS, they know the difference between Iran and Iraq, etc? Just a thought.

Posted by: ep thorn | May 10, 2008 1:32 AM | Report abuse

If you really want people to respect your position be certain to:

ARGUE in CAPS as often as POSSIBLE.
With lots of exclamation marks! For effect!!! Honestly!!!!!
Innovate new "uses" for "quotation" marks.
Call those you disapprove of names, especially those very clever ones.
Ask at least one challenging question with more than a hint of anger -- bet you didn't know that did you?
Support your premise with 312 statistics 67% of the time as it will impress your audience.
Threaten to vote/not vote for a candidate because we deeply care and the fate of the nation hinges on it.
And of course, a solid Nazi reference is always the clincher.

To not follow these rules would certainly diminish the impact of your valuable opinion. Please keep up the good work.

Posted by: proseandcon | May 10, 2008 12:55 AM | Report abuse

And just WHAT do I think of the DIMocrat contenders?

You, Iron my Shirt!

And You!,

Shine my Shoes! ;~)

Now, "Old Man",-I like My Steak Medium Well! ;~)

Posted by: RAT-The | May 9, 2008 11:50 PM | Report abuse

"More than any other candidate who competed for either party's nominations, Obama has made change the core of his campaign message."

Correction: you mean Ron Paul. Obama is second best when it comes to change.

Posted by: Joe | May 9, 2008 11:07 PM | Report abuse

The WaPo staff continues to demonstrate it is intoxicated on Obama's snake oil.

Always praise for Saint Obama. Everything about him and his campaign is wonderful!

And of course, the WaPo has started to attack McCain. Doing Obama's dirty work just as you did in attacking Hillary.

May I suggest that all of you review Journalism 101.

Posted by: William Phillips | May 9, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

I know she's conservative, but Peggy Noonan's really got Hillary's number.

See: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121027865275678423.html?mod=todays_columnists

Posted by: jac13 | May 9, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

For everyone who thinks that Hilary is the best person for the nomination and the country, here is a story in the Wall Street Journal you should read. Click on the link.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121028913821779151.html?mod=opinion_main_review_and_outlooks

Posted by: str8talk | May 9, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Progressive White:
I am sorry you can not bear the truth. We will see in november. Despite your innuendo, I am going to support whoever the democratic nominee is. But people like you create the divisions in this country. I happen to be a colored man. You appear to be capable of being a KKK from your attitudes and words. God help Obama with your kind of supporters.

Posted by: Nathan | May 9, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Clinton won more than two-thirds of the white voters without college degrees in the last three primaries... When those Clinton supporters were asked who they would vote for in an Obama-McCain matchup, fewer than half said they would support Obama.

This is due in large part to the "Ward Churchill Syndrome." Most college educated people for the past 30 years have been victims of post-Vietnam blame America first professors.

Voters without college degrees are free of this academic poisoning and are much more likely to vote for McCain.

Posted by: alance | May 9, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

For all of you grouches, you'll next get a chance to make your stand next November. In the meanwhile, Hillary will find a classy way to concede and then support Obama. Go ahead, vote for McCain, it's probably the only opportunity you will have in your life to turn down a charismatic African American for petty reasons.

Posted by: cestfini | May 9, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Hillary and Bill will after Obama Pays their $20 million dollar debt!!!!

Posted by: Kfitz | May 9, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

OMG!! I'm reading these comments and it's panicking me. Do you all realize--all of you--Obama supporters and Clinton supporters that you are losing your minds!!!

This is all way scarier than the very least harm Obama could do.He is very likely to do a great deal of good. Stop panicking. There is sooooo much fear on here!! Most of it is based in the demons you are all conjuring up in your own minds--!!!

Please --everybody take a very deep breath reach to whatever faith you have and let go of trying to control the proceedings and the future. Its going to happen regardless. The more you resist, push, threaten and rage the worse it will be for all of us and we may, if we don't all come together lose sight of the very thing we want the most--to get rid of the REAL demon, and that is the freak currently occupying the Whitehouse. If we don't all pull together behind Obama ( who is going to be the nominee) then we will all contribute to bringing down the democratic party.

Please, please let go. These comments remind me of the movie 'Day of the Locusts' when they all became a frenzied mob and everything and everyone went up in flames until there was nothing but burnt ground. Think about it!!@

Please for Gods sake--everybody take

Posted by: jefft1 | May 9, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

The Huffington Post
Posted April 29, 2008
Sean Wilentz

James Clyburn Happy to Play His Familiar Part Once More

Once again -- and for the last time -- the Democratic primary campaign has moved into a southern state, North Carolina, with a large African American population as well as a considerable university and college town liberal vote. Once again, the Barack Obama campaign and its supporters, fresh from a stinging defeat, are trying to stir up false accusations that Hillary Clinton and her campaign have cynically injected racial animosities into the campaign.

The latest round of charges about the Clintons have come from a familiar source, Representative James Clyburn of South Carolina, the highest-ranking black leader in Congress. In January, after the Obama campaign suffered stunning defeats in New Hampshire and Nevada, Rep. Clyburn, although nominally uncommitted, joined a chorus of concerted complaint about Hillary Clinton's supposed denigration of Martin Luther King, Jr. and his contributions to the 1964 Civil Rights Act because of her observation that President Lyndon Johnson had played a crucial part in guiding its passage. (Clinton's actual remarks, rarely reported, praised King enormously and were historically accurate.)

Clyburn then jumped on flimsy accusations that former President Bill Clinton had supposedly made subtle racial remarks by calling Obama's claim to unwavering opposition to administration policy in Iraq a "fairy tale," and by likening Obama's eventual victory in South Carolina to those of Jesse Jackson in 1984 and 1988. (The first had nothing whatsoever to do with race: Obama had said in 2004, 2005 and 2006 that he didn't know how he would have voted on Authorization for the Use of Military Force in Iraq because as a state senator he had no access to the intelligence, and Obama voted consistently for war funding as a U.S. senator. On the second matter -- again, rarely reported in full -- Bill Clinton's remark was delivered as part of his praise of Obama's campaign in every state, and Jackson himself publicly deemed it inoffensive.) Clinton had apparently done his wife's campaign a lot of good with his work in New Hampshire and Nevada; but the targeted attack on him had the double effect of marginalizing him while advancing the race-baiter charges.

The Obama campaign had already begun injecting race into the campaign, notably on the morning after the New Hampshire primary, when its national co-chair, Representative Jesse Jackson Jr. of Illinois, went on national television to accuse Senator Clinton of false emotion and racial intent in her tearful description of her commitment to public service. "Those tears also have to be analyzed," said Obama's co-chair. "They have to be looked at very, very carefully in light of Katrina, in light of other things that Mrs. Clinton did not cry for." And then Jackson added, disclosing his underlying political agenda: "Particularly as we head to South Carolina where 45% of African-Americans who participate in the Democratic contest." Clyburn immediately followed up, upping the ante by ripping into Bill Clinton and telling him to "chill." At the same time, an official Obama South Carolina campaign memo surfaced, which specified innocuous statements by Clinton supporters that could be twisted into race-baiting remarks -- including the wild claim, built from distorted quotations that Bill Clinton had said his wife was "stronger" than Nelson Mandela.

The charges leveled at the Clintons by Clyburn and others in South Carolina began what has become a completely predictable pattern among Obama, his campaign, and their supporters. First, Obama loses primary campaigns in key states which he had either expected to win (as in New Hampshire and then Nevada) or had worked desperately hard to win (as in Pennsylvania, where he outspent Hillary Clinton by as much as three-to-one). Then, as the campaign moved southward -- to Louisiana and then the "Potomac" primaries following Super Tuesday, to Mississippi following the March 4 Ohio and Texas primaries, and now to North Carolina -- come the furious but false charges, reported in the press as undeniable truths, that the Clinton campaign has indulged in mean-spirited race baiting, as a prelude to upcoming contests in southern states.

Some of these claims have turned out to be hoaxes, such as the release by the campaign, in the aftermath of Super Tuesday, of a supposedly scurrilous photograph of Obama in native African garb. Posted on the Drudge Report and lifted, as it turned out, from another right-wing website, Free Republic, where it initially surfaced, the appearance of the photograph was nevertheless blamed on the Clinton campaign by Obama's campaign manager David Plouffe who called it "the most shameful, offensive fear-mongering we've seen from either party in this election." (Obama himself, after dismissing the incident in a public debate with Hillary Clinton, returned to the accusation while on the stump with black voters in Mississippi.)

On other occasions, Obama suggested to mostly black audiences, in coded racial terms, that the Clintons were attempting to confuse them with their criticisms of him. Before the South Carolina, "Potomac" and Mississippi primaries, Obama cheerfully lifted the "hoodwinked, bamboozled" rant from the Spike Lee film Malcolm X, in order to convey to black voters that, whatever he might say about a "post-racial" campaign, racial solidarity against white traducers was crucial to his effort. Denzel Washington, playing Malcolm X, says: "I'm gonna tell you like it really is. Every election year these politicians are sent up here to pacify us! They're sent here and set up here by the white man! I say and I say it again, you've been had. You've been took. You've been HOODWINKED, BAMBOOZLED, led astray, run amok." Barack Obama repeatedly echoed: "Don't be hoodwinked! Don't be bamboozled!"

Other claims have either been either outright fabrications or hysterical distortions: false charges leveled by one popular pro-Obama website, Daily Kos, that the Clinton campaign "blackened" their candidate to make his look menacing by purposely darkening a another photograph of him; and the strained Geraldine Ferraro fracas, in which an awkward remark buried in the Torrance, California Daily Breeze was trumpeted nationally by prominent Obama supporters such as Keith Olbermann of MSNBC's Countdown into accusations said that the Clinton campaign had descended into the politics of a former Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan, David Duke. Then there was the false claim by one of Obama's best known supporters in academia, Orlando Patterson of Harvard, published on the op-ed page of the New York Times, that there was no black child in Clinton's "3 a.m." television ad on national security, a supposedly racist move worthy of D. W. Griffith and Birth of a Nation -- when, in fact, there was a black child in that commercial.

Which brings us back to Representative Clyburn, on the eve of North Carolina, which some have called Obama's firewall state -- a state he must win convincingly in order to head off his latest slide in the primary race. Last week, Bill Clinton belatedly observed that the Obama campaign "played the race card on me" in South Carolina, and cited a conversation he had had with Jesse Jackson to prove his point. Clyburn jumped back in, getting the attention of The New York Times by charging that "black people are incensed" at Clinton and claiming that it is "an almost 'unanimous' view among African-Americans that Mr. and Mrs. Clinton are "committed to doing everything they possibly can to damage Obama to a point that he could never win." Clyburn may well be correct about perceptions of the Clintons among some black voters; but he simply hides how Obama, his campaign, and their supporters have willfully created that impression.

Remarkably, reports about the Clintons' alleged race-baiting have been reproduced so often and so uncritically in the press that they have attained the status of incontrovertible truth. Evidence and arguments to the contrary can expect either to be ignored (with their arguments dismissed, as Ryan Lizza recently and sarcastically did in The New Yorker, as "mysterious"). Or they can expect to be greeted by ad hominem attacks which do not engage the evidence, and which can even stray (as I have learned directly) into attacks on the author as a racist -- the sort who, back in 1860, sneered at Abraham Lincoln as a "Black Republican." There is no honest dialogue on this issue: only constant reiteration by Obama's supporters of the undeniable truth of the charges against the Clintons, and the personal disparaging of any who dare call the charges into question.

Yet, there are, to be sure, some stray signs that the press may be catching on to what is going on here. After Rep. Clyburn's latest tirade, Maureen Dowd of The New York Times -- who has until now been consistently anti-Clinton and pro-Obama -- raised an eyebrow in her column about Clyburn's endorsement of what Dowd called the "Tonya Harding conspiracy theory," that the Clintons and their supporters were out to destroy Obama by the foulest of means. And playing the race-baiter card runs the enormous risk of deepening the racial divide that will make it more difficult for Obama to appeal to white voters, as it has in the past.

But there may not be time for the Obama campaign to worry about that, given the Pennsylvania results, given the possible outcomes in Indiana, West Virginia, and Kentucky, and given the growing perception (deepened by the continuing outbursts by the Rev. Jeremiah Wright) that Obama may not be electable in November. Incensing black voters in North Carolina -- as well as college and university liberals in the Chapel Hill-Durham area -- would be one way to gain the large majority that Obama needs to regain his footing. And so, yet again, the by now routine charges against the Clintons as race-baiters reappear -- with Representative Clyburn of neighboring South Carolina happy to play his by now familiar part once more.

Posted by: alee21 | May 9, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Mr Dan Balls:

Don't forget my shoes need to be shined, the trash taken out, and oh yes my shirt had a bit too much starch on the collar.
See if you can do a little better.

Barak

Posted by: Ziggy1 | May 9, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

I trust John McCain to answer that 3 AM phone call more than Obama. Old people are always up at 3AM and if the phone is close enough to him and has a loud ringer, my guess is he'll answer it.

Posted by: jason | May 9, 2008 9:17 PM
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Doubtful if he'll be able to understand who's on the other end, though, unless the phone also does semaphore. Being in the Navy there's a good chance he'll remember it.

Posted by: treetopflyer | May 9, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Jackie wrote: Obama dumped Rev. Wright after a 20 friendship and Obama will do the same to black folk if he wins.

If you don't like Obama, that is your choice but please don't twist the facts. Obama did not dump his pastor until the good rev. Wright threw him under the bus and damn near derailed his campaign. Obama despite the fire he took for doing so, initially refused to denounce him while distancing himself from Wright's rhetoric. Those are the facts.

Posted by: str8talk | May 9, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

>>Analysis: 'Hillary Democrats' could be up for grabs

That is just proof that the Clinton's care more about themselves than the issues. They trying to make the case that Hillary's as a person is more important that the issues.

What are they saying about the demographic (which ever one they choose to spin today) that are saying will leave the democratic party if Hillary is not on the ticket?

Talk about being ego-maniacs... It's unbelievable that they would even postulate that Hillary is bigger than the vast divide in issues between the Republican party and Democratic party.

Unbelievable... unbelievable... unbelievable... that's what I said just about every week of the prior Clinton's last term. Thank goodness that circus won't be coming around again!

Posted by: CommonSense | May 9, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

I trust John McCain to answer that 3 AM phone call more than Obama. Old people are always up at 3AM and if the phone is close enough to him and has a loud ringer, my guess is he'll answer it.

Posted by: jason | May 9, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse


>>Hillary has Bill to turn to for tutoring and advice.

Huh? Are Bill and Hillary speaking openly and honestly to each other these days?

Regardless, Bill buried his head in the sand over growing foreign affairs issues. And, he road the technology bubble all the way to the point that when it popped it left alot of people in the lurch. I'm not sure we need another "party" like that one... the hang over was pretty severe.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Analysis: 'Hillary Democrats' could be up for grabs

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080509/ap_on_el_pr/hillary_democrats

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Hillary clinton will not now or ever understand that most of America is sick and tired of the Clintons. There very name says SCANDLE so she has to get over it. Now she is trying to hurt him so he will loose. How selfish is she? It's time for the clintons to go away, they have never done anything for us, it has always be about them.....

Posted by: lucien langlais jr | May 9, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Obama supporters don't understand that complex jobs require specialized training and years of experience.

Hillary has Bill to turn to for tutoring and advice.

Obama doesn't know the questions, let alone the answers.

All he has is his egomania, his arrogance, and his narcissism.

This is like the "cultural revolution" in China.

Its nuts.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Obama is the only candidate who appears to follow his conscience, as best possible while still striving to be elected. The Clinton's have demonstrated time and time again that there is little they would not do, or line they would not cross, in order to get what they want.

Essentially, it comes down to trust.

I trust Obama.

As for Obama versus McCain. It really will be decided on the issues. Hillary can keep her circus running for as long as she likes by trying to make a case that she has a better chance of beating McCain. But when it comes right down to it the stance on issues between the parties is so significant that they are what will decide the race.

In some presidential elections the race is determined by the personalities and persona's of the individuals running. This time around the issues are too significant and the stances so different that there is no doubt in my mind that candidates stances on them will determine the outcome.

Posted by: CommonSense | May 9, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Crazy idea we might actually elect a president whose intellect people around the world will actually respect (you know I'm talking about Obama without having to spell it out). So what if Hamas has something positive to say about him? They compared him to JFK who, by the way, knew how to play hardball with his enemies.
Obama hates white people? Please! He's half-white and his mother's from Kansas. Get a grip. A message to all you ignorant people out there - nobody really likes you. Not McCain and not Clinton. We don't want a great country run by a narrow-minded base.

Posted by: Doug | May 9, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Please don't pull out the God card in the name of politics. It's taking the Lord's name in vain.

Posted by: treetopflyer | May 9, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Obama and his camp have been experts in using the race card against the Clinton's . They have been very effective in making any type of criticism of him or his lack of experience off limits or you'll be identified as racist. They have been excellent at blowing out of proportion any small comments made that criticise him. His fans and bloggers have picked up on this and have become just as mean, nasty and vile. They all have shown such little respect towards Senator Clinton, President Clinton, Chelsea and their supporters. The names the Clinton's and their supporters are called are disgraceful and it continues. Obama thinks he can heal and bring everyone together, don't bet on it. You all have been doing the very thing you whine about. Because of the treatment Senator Clinton has received and the way her supporters have been treated, I for one will be changing my voters registration from Democrat to Independent. I know it won't make much of a difference but it is about the principle and double standard that have been accepted and condoned by the Democrats, the media and Obama.

Posted by: mamacoo | May 9, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

I know, Bill. I was quoting (and making fun of) Dr. Chuck ; )

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: charles webster baer | May 9, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

God vs. Rabid Hillary Supporters

Scene:
GOD standing at the Pearly Gates waiting for Hillary supporters who voted against Barack Obama:

GOD: Before you can pass, tell me why you didn't stop the Iraq War simply by voting for Barack Obama? Don't you remember the Fifth Commandment - THOU SHALL NOT KILL.

Hillary Supporter: Barack Obama? Goodness me, he's an elitist, a Muslim and doesn't like white people; and get this God - he won't wear a flag pin!

GOD: Did he support this war - this bloody abomination against mankind? Is this why you didn't trust him?

Hillary Supporter: Well no. Actually he was against the war from the beginning. But he can't be trusted - he is unknown and inexperienced.

GOD: He is not an elder?

Hillary Supporter: Oh Lord no! Only 12 years in elected public office.

GOD: This is not good enough to lead your people?

Hillary Supporter: Well, maybe his people but not mine.

GOD: What people does thy speakith?

Hillary Supporter: Well you know, middle class/blue collar white people.

GOD: BLASPHEMY! All are equal in the eyes of the LORD!

Hillary Supporter: Wait, hear me out God. We had a great leader, Hillary Clinton...

GOD: Oh her

...she could have been the greatest president ever! She had way more experience: she's been a US Senator for 7 years, supported NAFTA, brought peace to Ireland and even risked her life under sniper fire. And her dear loving devoted husband, Bill Clinton, was the President of the United States for two terms. She should have won the election. Not this Barack HUSSEIN Obama!

GOD: And Senator Clinton voted against the Iraq War?

Hillary Supporter: Ah no. Ah....she kind of voted for it.

GOD: Kind of?

Hillary Supporter: OK, she voted for the war. But she was tricked because she didn't read the Security Briefing.

GOD: I see. And so you voted for this McCain to continue this evil war, this pestilence against my children to express your disappointment that Hillary lost.

Hillary Supporter: Sure did Lord. Why do you ask?

GOD: PRIDE IS A CARDINAL SIN! REPENT!

Hillary Supporter: Repent? For supporting Hillary Clinton? Never!

GOD: SO BE IT! I cast you down to burn in the pits of Hell for all eternity! Your pride has cost the blood of men, women and children and you will dwell with Lucifer and suffer his will forevermore. BEGONE SINNER!

The clouds part and Hillary Supporter starts to plummet towards the earth with eyes looking pleadingly through the hole in the clouds: WAIT - WAIT! IT WASN'T MY FAULT THEY DIDN'T COUNT FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN!


Woody

Posted by: Woody | May 9, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Bluegrass Obama>>>>>>>>>>>>

He's the man,
He'll fix our country I know he can,
Don't listen to the Clintons,
they aint so bright,
You can vote for Obama
even if you're whiiite....

That's right,

You can vote for Obama
even if you're whiiite...

Old Bill signed NAFTA and he signed GATT,
Hell, he aint no Democrat,
Hillary voted for the war,
that's right,
You can vote for Obama
even if you're whiiite....

You can vote for Obama.........
Even if you're whiiite!

That's right.

http://jamestshirley.blogspot.com/

Posted by: James T Shirley | May 9, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

I'm an African American and I studied both Hillary and Obama without dealing with race just on their records. Hillary is far better then 2 1/2 year Senator Obama. I don't vote for Rock Star and American Idol status for a President it's qualifications. Obama has used both white and blacks as a card. He uses Dr. King for Blacks and his Mother for Whites. Now he would even use his Father if he ran for President of Kenya. Senator Obama was raised without any knowledge of being black. He was taught by his wife Mother and Grandparents not one African American until Rev. Wright. Obama dumped Rev. Wright after a 20 friendship and Obama will do the same to black folk if he wins. Hillary has worked and acted on helping Blacks and all Americans with proof to back it up, yet Obama says Bill/Hillary have done nothing for all Americans. Mrs. Obama pretty much called blacks stupid because they didn't vote for her husband. I have lived to see Black Leaders who used blacks and stabbed them in the back once they got what they wanted and Obama will do the same thing. He's being used by John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Leahy and Pelosi for their on agenda's. Obama will be another George W. Bush as a puppet President as others do the job. If only Obama had read what Dr. King had said and it the titles of his speeches. Crooks and Corrupt Officials come in all colors and Obama has just proved it. Now the Media and reporters are sucking up in hopes of becoming insiders as the drop Bush. Obama saw no problem with the Media calling Hillary the B word now lets see what he has to say when they call his wife the B word. Obama is showing his real self when he said he could get Hillary's voters. I say as a long time Democratic vote when hell freezes over and he will never get my vote as President because he isn't qualified and I wont be used by even a so called Black man.

Posted by: Jackie | May 9, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Mr. HiloBob wrote:

"Although I'm an ardent Obama supporter I think if the Dems have done too much damage to themselves because Hillary pushes it past June, drafting Al Gore would be the way to go.

He's proven his vote getting ability by beating George the Lesser in 2000 and has nothing more controversial than the Nobel Peace Prize to his credit."

Yes!!! there is a sane person here!!
Both Obama and Clinton are now to damaged to beat McBush in November.
Gore would be able to unite the party and restore sanity to our politics and environment.

Gore '08!


Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

JakeD:

The coalition u mention is an Obama fiction. Take a closer look at the exit polls and the votes by precinct in states that held elections. Don't slice it too fine and see how the big voting blocks went. Forget caucus states. In Texas for example, Clinton won the popular vote by nearly 100,000 (because of her big percentage of Hispanic votes) but Obama still came out of the caucuses with the most delegates (because party rules favored Obama). In November, all the states hold elections. There won't be any caucus states.

Posted by: Bill | May 9, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Great....I read in depth about Obama's "moves" yesterday....


just give the guy enough rope......

Posted by: Hillary Simply the Best | May 9, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

I am hearing some BREAKING NEWS that Hillary has now officialy decare herself Obama,s Veep, but also threatened to remain a spoiler if the Obama Camp rejects the Marriage . Just Turn on to CNN and get more !

Posted by: Instantnews.com | May 9, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully I'll see your studdly tight body again tonight!
I'm horny!

That maybe the type of mating ritual you engage in the Hollers up there. But I am most assuredly not interested in a club footed, 3 tooth, 5 eyed cretin. LOL!!!!!

Posted by: str8talk | May 9, 2008 7:45 PM

You know you loved it...so do I! Let's hook up again!

Posted by: Adarius | May 9, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

John Maroney, those posts weren't by me. A differnce of opinion led one, Adarius La Chaquita to impersonate me using my screen name with his or her garbage.

Posted by: str8talk | May 9, 2008 7:52 PM

ok...now i know...that guy is freakin crazy!

I hate people like that.

Posted by: John Maroney | May 9, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Let's roll! I will work to elect Obama-Webb!

Posted by: mikeVA | May 9, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, that should read:

a > b and b > c, therefore c > a.

???????????????

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

treetopflyer:

Obama has not "beat" Clinton (yet).

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

John Maroney, those posts weren't by me. A differnce of opinion led one, Adarius La Chaquita to impersonate me using my screen name with his or her garbage.

Posted by: str8talk | May 9, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

What a well-written piece of political journalism. I would have only added something about the "well-honed Republican attack machine and its ability to manufacture weaknesses in Democrats," but other than that, I'd say you earned your paycheck today.

Posted by: Nick | May 9, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Is anyone picking up a logical disconnect here in the "Barack is too inexperienced to beat McCain" argument? Let me walk you through it:

We're all familiar from school with the formula:

a > b and b > c, therefore a > c.

Right?

Now, let's say a = Obama, b = Clinton and c = McCain, and the > sign = "Can beat". By the Clintonista's logic, we're left with this formula:

a > b and b > c, therefore b > a.

???????????????

The candidate who beat the candidate who can beat McCain cannot beat McCain.

Is anybody buying this load of crap??

Posted by: treetopflyer | May 9, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Adarius La Chaquita wrote: me so horny! where are you? I love you! Please meet me at the SWAP MEAT tonight! yeah , it was my mouth I want you thang was in!
Yummy....remeber i drank it all!
Hopefully I'll see your studdly tight body again tonight!
I'm horny!

That maybe the type of mating ritual you engage in the Hollers up there. But I am most assuredly not interested in a club footed, 3 tooth, 5 eyed cretin. LOL!!!!!

Posted by: str8talk | May 9, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

That str8ght talk guy needs to get out of here. He is totally out of control.

Not like there is anything wrong with what he does in his private time... but sheeeesh..he has some issues. Must be a Catholic priest or something,

Posted by: John Maroney | May 9, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

It's fun to read these kool-aid drinking Osama supporters explaining why their man is the best qualified, when he has no qualifications at all. And let's be honest libs, if he looked fat and bald he wouldn't stand a chance, would he. So yes, once again, the left decides on a candidate based on looks and not integrity, which Osama has none (i.e. hugging a terrorist). Good luck in 2012 libs, try...try again!

Posted by: Toxic Avenger | May 9, 2008 7:36 PM

**************************
Have you heard, there is a cure for pimples...even those on your butt..

Posted by: toxic avenger's prom date was his cousin delores | May 9, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

To be fair, Toxic Avenger, Abe Lincoln didn't look so good and had LESS experience than Obama has ; )

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

It's fun to read these kool-aid drinking Osama supporters explaining why their man is the best qualified, when he has no qualifications at all. And let's be honest libs, if he looked fat and bald he wouldn't stand a chance, would he. So yes, once again, the left decides on a candidate based on looks and not integrity, which Osama has none (i.e. hugging a terrorist). Good luck in 2012 libs, try...try again!

Posted by: Toxic Avenger | May 9, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

me so horny!

Posted by: str8talk | May 9, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Adarius where are you? I love you! Please meet me at the SWAP MEAT tonight!

I'm horny!

Posted by: str8talk | May 9, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Adarius La Chaquita, from your rants I get the idea that the truth must really hurt. I am willing to debate issues but I will not get into the gutter with you. Go find your candidate and enjoy. What is it with you Clinton/McCain types anyway? When you have nothing constructive to add to the dialogue you fall back to race, innuendo and an assortment of hubris. Later dude!

Posted by: str8talk | May 9, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Nathan wrote........

If you think that the democratic primaries can be extrapolated to the november elections, you may be in for a rude shock. The sound bites of Rev. Wright are just a warm-up for the more sinister attacks yet to come. Just as the media brain-washed the democratic voters about Obama the messiah, the Republicans will brain wash the electorate about what an African American President will mean to the white folks. If he can win despite such venom and racial attacks, more power to him. But I don't see it happening. We will get a reality check in november. I truly hope, I prove wrong and wish Obama well. If Obama is elected come november, America can truly feel proud as a color-blind nation. "

.......
Well Nathan,You are nothing but the biggest Hipocrite coming right from the leadership of KKK , This country is on its verge of losing its status in the world , Economically , Politically , Scientifically , and sooner or later Militarilly Unless these kinds of mindset of yours is changed . Ironically , It was such ego that led the Nazi,s reign and downfall . The world has passed the stage are still living in .

Posted by: Progressive White | May 9, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

yeah Adarius, it was mouth you thang was in!

Yummy....remeber i drank it all!

Hopefully I'll see your studdly tight body again tonight!

Posted by: str8talk | May 9, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

To be fair, Annette, Trent Lott praised more than just his career -- I understand your point though -- Lott claimed (correctly BTW) that we wouldn't have had "all these problems" if the racist had been elected President ; )

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Jamal | May 9, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Obama is not ready for the Repuglican attack machine. Besides, have you noticed he looks like J Fred Muggs? HRC will be ready to hit the ground running on Day One. You Go Girl.

Posted by: Geraldine | May 9, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

To an earlier post, there is no one that could win over the Clintons since the Clintons chart their own course and are not subject to anyone. The only way you can deal with the Clintons is to win. And that is what Obama is doing.

Posted by: Walt | May 9, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Bye now... I have to go out with my bff's and get drunk and have some guy think I will do him for more drinks...which I will, btw...

Posted by: MandyDuh | May 9, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

The racist double standards in the Democratic Primary are all on the Obama side, not the Clinton side.
Posted by: Annette

I stand corrected Annette, it is not an eye exam you need. It's a cornea transplant on both eyes.

Posted by: str8talk | May 9, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Mandy, do you have web cam?

Posted by: I Love You, Mandy. | May 9, 2008 7:08 PM

I am already sinning w/ another infidel...

Posted by: Mandy | May 9, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Nathan:

Which candidate will you be voting for in November?

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

You are bonafide, a bonafide trailer park, inbred.

Posted by: str8talk | May 9, 2008 7:15 PM

didn't i meet you at that fella bar last night in DuPont when you were takin it from me from behind in the bathrom stall?

Posted by: Adarius La Chaquita | May 9, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

>>Victoria said: "If Obama had made up that Bosnia story, he would have been laughed out of the race so fast. The media has given her a pass."

Firstly, the media DID NOT give Clinton a pass. It focused on her Bosnia story in a furious attempt to distract from and drown out the first Rev. Wright flap. (They would have succeeded if Rev. Wright didn't emerge again in April).

Secondly, if Clinton spent 20 years in a church with a viral, rabid, foaming-at-the-mouth white racist full of insane conspiracy theories, who sold videos of his racist rants on the Internet and posted manifestos of genocidal terrorists on his website, like Rev. Wright, she would never have been allowed to explain that it was all a surprise to her, that this wasn't the man she knew for 20 years.

Trent Lott lost his senate majority position just for praising Strom Thurmond's careet at the old racist's 90th birthday party.

The racist double standards in the Democratic Primary are all on the Obama side, not the Clinton side.

Posted by: Annette | May 9, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

OK, Folks, I'm signing out.

Time to go wax my golf clubs and organize my pastel Izod vest collection.

See you peons later ; )

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Biatch, I am a bonafide black man! Bend over boy!
Posted by: Adarius La Chaquita

You are bonafide, a bonafide trailer park, inbred.

Posted by: str8talk | May 9, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Why is the KKK members getting too nervous here , You have have to know that the world has greatly changed since 1939 and your mentor the NAZI .The wisdom and intelligence of other races Asians , Africans , Latinos etc has been multiplied and it is a world reality in which you have no option but learn to live with .

Posted by: Pastor Black & White | May 9, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

>> I said: "Obama has failed in his biggest leadership challenge -- the one that can win or lose his White House bid in the Fall. Obama has failed to get Hillary Clinton on his side."

>> str8talk said: "Failed? What the hell are you talking about? Hilary is on no one's side but her own."

str8talk, we're hearing so much about how Clinton is doing this and that, and holding the Primary process hostage and running the tone of the race, etc.

People seem to forget that Obama has been called the "leader" in this race since early February. Does anyone know what "leader" implies? It implies that Obama is or should be in control or be able to shape or drive events.

If Obama can't win the loyalty of the Clintons, he's failed in his more important leadership challenge of this Primary season. If Obama is being held hostage by Clinton's "tone" or her criticism of the demographics of his lopsided and narrow voter base, he's not in control, is he?

What is Obama going to accomplish in sitting down and talking with Hamas, Iran and other virulent America haters who are on, literally, what they think is a mission from God to hurt the Great Satan as much as possible, if he can't dominate and win over one little old lady?

The rhetoric of the Obama camp about the horrors of Hillary Clinton is so overblown and hyperbolic it's absurd and funny. Obama's horrible bogeyman is a tiny little Clinton woman.

What kind of leader is Obama if he can't win over Hillary Clinton? Maybe he thinks he can charm the Iranians and the Islamist Jihad world into "toning down the negativity" and stop being so bitter.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

And the SUPREME Court?

Posted by: FAKEJakeD | May 9, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

He doesn't say that HE can solve America's problems.

He says that the American People can. Why believe it? Because it's been done before.

No President can do anything without the people, as represented by Congress. At least, that's how it was drawn up in the Constitution, if it still exists.

Posted by: Patriot | May 9, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

To me, the romantic notion that America is color blind and will elect an African American as president this year is no more than a utopian dream. I hope I am dead wrong, but I can feel the confidence John McCain is showing as an indication that the democrats may make the mistake of the centuary if they assume that Obama victory is a shoe-in. If you think that the democratic primaries can be extrapolated to the november elections, you may be in for a rude shock. The sound bites of Rev. Wright are just a warm-up for the more sinister attacks yet to come. Just as the media brain-washed the democratic voters about Obama the messiah, the Republicans will brain wash the electorate about what an African American President will mean to the white folks. If he can win despite such venom and racial attacks, more power to him. But I don't see it happening. We will get a reality check in november. I truly hope, I prove wrong and wish Obama well. If Obama is elected come november, America can truly feel proud as a color-blind nation.

Posted by: Nathan | May 9, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse


VICTORIA AT 5:52 below.

Great post.

Right on. I must've written it. Though it

should be added that Clinton can not possibly be the vp, she is the perfect opposite of what obama won for, being
honest and decent, and something new.

Hillary is tainted old goods. Make that really dirty old bads...

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Brad K:

As Al Gore found out, the hard way, LA Times polls don't win elections -- the electoral-vote.com polling (State by State) is the only way to gauge these contests -- you have heard of this thing called the "Electoral College" right?

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

There's one simple question that Obama can be asked at any time that will end everything.

Its so simple nobody thought of asking it until too late.

Obama and his supporters claim that he can solve all of America's problems, and that he and only he can do it.

There's one simple question nobody bothered to ask --

"Mr Obama, why should we believe you?"

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

I know one thing so far for now: its over for Clintons. Obama is ready for GOP and he will -for sure- prevail....Yes!! New America for all Americans and for the rest of the world.

Posted by: nsiddig | May 9, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Mandy, do you have web cam?

Posted by: I Love You, Mandy. | May 9, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

The article couldn't get more pro-Obama if it tried. I'm suprised Mr. Balz didn't ask Obama to marry him and rear his children.

Posted by: Tirade | May 9, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

I don't see Hillary going much longer, to be honest. Not that I'm against it.

I just think the sentiment is too strong that she's past tense. It may even show up in the upcoming votes in WV, etc.

I think she's already got her Exit in mind, just waiting for the right time. She / her campaign really underestimated Obama. I did, too.

Never thought he'd have a chance in our supposedly racist society, but I guess we're not as racist as we claim to be.

I liked Edwards, though, but Obama seems to be just fine.

Posted by: Carl Wilson | May 9, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

OOOOH, you're a bad little infidel, aren't you?

Posted by: Stop it Mandy, I feel weird | May 9, 2008 7:02 PM

Don't ever call me an infidel you infidel!!

Hassan, whom my parents MADE me marry, will be pissed if he catches me on his computer!
Is there any way he can find out? I am so scared in my itchy, itchy burqa....and it's so hot I have to take it off and run off to the closest happy hour to satisfy my urge for a...............

Posted by: Mandy | May 9, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Although I'm an ardent Obama supporter I think if the Dems have done too much damage to themselves because Hillary pushes it past June, drafting Al Gore would be the way to go.

He's proven his vote getting ability by beating George the Lesser in 2000 and has nothing more controversial than the Nobel Peace Prize to his credit.

Posted by: HiloBob | May 9, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Adarius, you are either an idiot or a republican, not much difference between the two. Vote Obama and get yourself straight.

Posted by: str8talk | May 9, 2008 6:57 PM

Biatch, I am a bonafide black man! Bend over boy!

Posted by: Adarius La Chaquita | May 9, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

OOOOH, you're a bad little infidel, aren't you?

Posted by: Stop it Mandy, I feel weird | May 9, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Are the Hillary sock puppets still whining about media coverage...after Rev. Wright's 30-second sound byte was played 24/7 for the past six weeks? Obama gets killed by someone else's words but Hillary's lie about Bosnia got one-tenth the media play. And you still claim the media is pro-Obama? Unbelieveable! Wake up to reality!

Posted by: MarkieBee | May 9, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Nice try, FAKE Bill. ; )

That dress was purple.

Posted by: BillyC | May 9, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Tell me more about your narrow waist, Mandy. Maybe we can go get a coffee or something.

Posted by: Mandy Not Sounding So Bad Afterall | May 9, 2008 6:56 PM

Well i would love to, except Hassan, my husband wouldn't be too happy. He and his friends hang out at the mosque all day "talking about Allah" or something like that, not pipe bombs and such.

But i love sneaking out because my burqa gets so tight and itchy, i just dream of taking it all off!

Posted by: Mandy | May 9, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

There is news that Hillary Plans to invite Monica lewinsky in the White House and turn her into her lesbian partner , As a retaliation to what her husband did, This time she wont wear the blue dress though .

Posted by: Bill Clinton Jnr. | May 9, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

my god you people are naive.
next thing you know, he will raise his hand and part the waters and lead us to the promised land

grow up!!

Posted by: demnomore | May 9, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Jimminy Christmas, JakeD,

You're Dangerous, aren't you?

That's what the D is for.

Posted by: FakeJakeD | May 9, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Posted by Adarius La Chaquita: I didn't say those words. Sounds like you have some 'fessn' up to do.

Adarius, you are either an idiot or a republican, not much difference between the two. Vote Obama and get yourself straight.

Posted by: str8talk | May 9, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Adarius, why don't you take off your sheet so I can see you?

Posted by: | May 9, 2008 6:52 PM

Well, I would except Robert Byrd (D) WV has the lease on my sheet. He was the Grand Wizard of the KKK in West Virginia you know.

Can you call your democrat friend Robert Byrd and tell him I want a new one? Mine has gotten so dirty with all the rallies I've been to.

Posted by: Adarius La Chaquita | May 9, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

New LA Times/Bloomberg poll just out shows either Obama or Clinton beating McCain handily in the general election:

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-poll10-2008may10,0,6816866.story

No surprises here; Clinton does slightly better among older voters but that's balanced by a lot more enthusiasm for Obama among younger (18-44) voters and African Americans. In an Obama-McCain matchup, McCain gets 3% of the black vote. In a Clinton-McCain match-up, McCain gets 9% of the black vote, "roughly in line with the performance of past GOP presidential candidates."

This poll was taken May 1-8. My guess is we'll start to see Obama's poll numbers shoot up in both national and state-by-state match-ups now that he's the presumptive Democratic nominee, but those polls won't start landing until later into the weekend or early next week.

Posted by: Brad K | May 9, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Tell me more about your narrow waist, Mandy. Maybe we can go get a coffee or something.

Posted by: Mandy Not Sounding So Bad Afterall | May 9, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Here you go, NB:

The Dean 25 could decide Clinton's fate
By: Avi Zenilman
April 19, 2008 06:33 AM EST

If, as Hillary Rodham Clinton has suggested, her campaign takes the fight to seat the Florida and Michigan delegations all the way to the Democratic National Convention this summer, the fate of her challenge is all but certain to hinge on 25 individuals appointed to the Credentials Committee by party Chairman Howard Dean.

The Credentials Committee, which also includes 161 members selected from the states based on primary and caucus results, is the 186-member body that will help determine whether to seat the two rogue delegations.

Since it appears virtually impossible for Clinton to win enough of the 161 members to vote out a "majority report" supporting her position -- and it is unlikely that Barack Obama will win enough of them, either -- the Dean 25 are in a position to hold the balance of power on a procedural matter that could play a pivotal role in deciding the Democratic presidential nomination.

Though these 25 appointees are often assumed to be handpicked Dean loyalists who will take their cues from him on the issue of seating Florida and Michigan, a Politico analysis has found that is far from certain. Many of the 25 are already publicly supporting either Clinton or Obama -- and some are barely acquainted with Dean.

"It was important to Gov. Dean that the standing committees be diverse and be representative of the Democratic Party as a whole," said Democratic National Committee press secretary Stacie Paxton. "He personally asked each nominee if they were prepared to do what's in the best interest of the country and the Democratic Party before he made the appointment."

What follows is Politico's guide to the Dean 25, based on interviews with appointees and additional reporting.

Dean Aguillen
Background: Currently a lobbyist for Ogilvy Government Relations. Previously worked as an adviser to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and in the Clinton White House.
Dean Connection: Says he got a call from the DNC asking if he wanted to help out with the committee. He expects that Dean wants Democrats who are "loyal" and have "integrity."
Hint: Donated at least $2,000 to Clinton. Doesn't have a firm position on Michigan and Florida and says he'll consider all sides.

Don Beyer
Background: Former Virginia lieutenant governor and unsuccessful Democratic nominee for governor in 1997.
Dean Connection: Served as the Dean campaign's treasurer during the 2004 Democratic presidential primary.
Hint: Endorsed Obama.

Allyn Brooks-LaSure
Background: Director of media relations for the Save Darfur Coalition. Worked as a spokesman for Sen. Robert Menendez and Gov. Jon Corzine, both of New Jersey.
Dean Connection: Says he had "no previous relationship" with the DNC chairman when Leah Daughtry, a top Dean aide, called and asked if he was willing to serve on the committee.
Hint: Donated $500 to Barack Obama (under the name Michael Brooks-LaSure) but says he sees "a separation there between my role" as a member of the Credentials Committee and his support for Obama. The challenge for the DNC, he says, will be "reconciling the rules as well as the importance of Florida and Michigan."

Jose Ceballos
Background: Director of government affairs at the National Air Traffic Controllers Association. Served as deputy chief of staff to vice presidential nominee John Edwards in 2004 and previously worked for Commerce Secretary (and former DNC chairman) Ron Brown and Vice President Al Gore.
Dean Connection: Unclear. Did not respond to requests for comment.
Hint: None.

Ralph C. Dawson
Background: New York City labor lawyer. As a member of the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee, Dawson initiated the move in August to strip Florida of all its delegates.
Dean Connection: Dean's college roommate. Gave $2,000 to Dean in the first quarter of 2004 and served as an adviser to his 2004 campaign.
Hint: One of the three undecided superdelegates in New York, Dawson has given $1,250 to the Obama campaign and $450 to the Clinton campaign. Says he "believes very much in [Dean's] 50-state strategy."

Sheila Dixon
Background: Baltimore mayor.
Dean Connection: Unclear.
Hint: Endorsed Obama.

Christopher Edley Jr.
Background: Dean of University of California's Boalt Hall law school. Served as assistant director of the White House domestic policy staff under President Jimmy Carter and also worked at the Office of Management and Budget under President Bill Clinton before taking charge of the White House review of affirmative action.
Dean Connection: Donated $2,000 to Dean in early 2004.
Hint: Donated $4,600 to Obama.

Hartina Flournoy
Background: Assistant to the president of the American Federation of Teachers. Was finance director for the Gore for President campaign and deputy campaign manager for the Clinton-Gore reelection campaign. Also served on the Rules and Bylaws Committee.
Dean Connection: Befriended Dean during his presidential campaign. A major backer of his bid for the DNC chairmanship, she ran his transition team after he won.
Hint: A Clinton superdelegate who, according to ABC News, advised Clinton to push strategist Mark Penn out.

Maryscott "Scotty" Greenwood
Background: Managing director at McKenna Long & Aldridge's Washington office. Served as Georgia Democratic Party's executive director, worked on multiple presidential campaigns and was chief of staff of the Canadian Embassy under President Clinton.
Dean Connection: Gave $2,000 to Dean in 2003 and supported his race for DNC chairman. University of Vermont graduate.
Hint: Donated $2,300 to the Clinton campaign, "but I'm not declaring support for her over Obama in this credentials process." Says family members have given to Obama. Refers to herself as "a Howard Dean person."

Janice Griffin
Background: Served as co-chairwoman of the DNC's Women's Vote Center and as national chairwoman of the DNC's Women's Leadership Forum. Also served on the Rules and Bylaws Committee and voted to strip Florida and Michigan of their delegates. She is a superdelegate.
Dean Connection: Unclear.
Hint: Donated to both of Clinton's senatorial campaigns but told Politico in February she was supporting Obama.

Adelita Grijalva
Background: Program manager for the Pima County Teen Court in Arizona and daughter of Rep. Raul M. Grijalva (D-Ariz.). This will be her first convention, where she says she will be eight months pregnant.
Dean Connection: Got a call from the DNC and she said she'd be willing to help out. "I'm just lucky, I guess."
Hint: Says she supports Obama. Father is an Obama-supporting superdelegate.

Laura Harris
Background: Executive director of Americans for Indian Opportunity. Worked for New Mexico Sen. Jeff Bingaman and for the 2004 John F. Kerry general election campaign.
Dean Connection: Served as the Dean 2004 campaign's National Native American Policy and Outreach senior adviser.
Hint: Endorsed Obama. Former Bill Richardson supporter.

Kathy Hoyt
Background: Longtime Vermont political activist who served as chief of staff to former Vermont Govs. Dean and Madeleine Kunin.
Dean Connection: Also served as secretary of administration under Dean.
Hint: Helped launch Vermont Women for Obama in February.

Carol Juneau
Background: Montana state senator. Served in the state House for a decade and in various state party positions.
Dean Connection: Unclear.
Hint: Hosted a fundraiser for Clinton in Missoula. "She's been my choice since the beginning," Juneau told the Helena Independent Record last week. "She has a strong Native American platform."

Scott Maddox
Background: Former Florida Democratic Party chairman and Tallahassee mayor.
Dean Connection: "I helped get him elected" as DNC chairman, Maddox said.
Hint: None. Says his role on the Credentials Committee keeps him from making a decision.

Abdul Malik Mujahid
Background: The founder of Chicago-based Sound Vision Inc., an Islamic multimedia company. Has served on some Bosnia-related task forces and is the current chairperson of the Council of Islamic Organizations of Greater Chicago.
Dean Connection: Unclear. Did not respond to requests for comment.
Hint: None.

Maria Neira
Background: New York State United Teachers official and a vice president of the American Federation of Teachers. Served on former New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer's educational transition team.
Dean Connection: Works with Dean confidante Tina Flournoy. Gave $250 to Kerry in the first quarter of 2004.
Hint: She's a pledged delegate for Clinton from New York's 21st congressional district.

Kate O'Connor
Background: Served in Dean's gubernatorial administration, managed his campaigns for governor and worked on his presidential campaign.
Dean Connection: Longtime Dean aide.
Hint: None.

Leila Sahar
Background: A college senior at Lawrence University in Wisconsin. Spent recent summers interning in the DNC's Political Department and working as an assistant at the Voting Rights Institute.
Dean Connection: Served as DNC intern under Dean chairmanship.
Hint: None.

Marc Stanley
Background: Dallas trial lawyer and Democratic donor.
Dean Connection: Unclear. Gave $2,000 to both Edwards and Kerry in 2004.
Hint: Donated $4,400 to Obama in 2007.

Carol Pensky
Background: Founder of the DNC's Women's Leadership Forum. Served as a DNC treasurer in the late 1990s and as a finance chairwoman in 2000.
Dean Connection: Donated $1,850 to Dean in 2004, more than she gave to Kerry or Wesley Clark.
Hint: A pro-Clinton superdelegate, she has donated $4,600 to her campaign.

Bob Rogan
Background: Chief of staff for Vermont Rep. Peter Welch.
Dean Connection: Served as Gov. Dean's deputy chief of staff and as deputy campaign manager when Dean ran for president.
Hint: His boss is an Obama superdelegate, but Rogan is undecided.

Jane Stetson
Background: Served as finance chairwoman for Vermont Rep. Peter Welch's campaign. Donated $25,000 to the party in 2004.
Dean Connection: A Vermonter, she has been a major fundraiser for medical facilities in Dean's home state. In 2004, she gave $1,000 to his presidential campaign. Also gave $2,000 to Carol Moseley Braun's campaign.
Hint: Donated $2,300 to Obama.

Michael Steed
Background: Managing director at the Paladin Capital Group. Served as DNC executive director in the early 1980s. Donated $34,500 to the party in 2004.
Dean Connection: Unclear. Donated $2000 to the campaigns of Bob Graham and Dick Gephardt in 2004.
Hint: Donated $4,600 to Clinton.

Bill Straus
Background: Massachusetts state representative.
Dean Connection: Endorsed Dean in 2004, and donated $1,900 to his campaign. Dean's Democracy for America political action committee raised funds for Straus in June 2004.
Hint: Donated $1,375 to the Clinton campaign.

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Posted by: GOP Boob | May 9, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

aided and abetted by the media, he would be nowhere without their help

Posted by: demnomore | May 9, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

No I am not not a racist, but neither do I subscribe to passive resistance. When you call other people simians and monkeys and jigaboos, I will be all over your racist ass!
Posted by: str8talk | May 9, 2008 6:44 PM
I didn't say those words. Sounds like you have some 'fessn' up to do.
Go to the CHurch of Obama and take care of your racism problem.
Posted by: Adarius La Chaquita

Adarius, why don't you take off your sheet so I can see you?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

By the way, why do you ladies all dress in pastel colors and put your hair up in that god awful way?

I think you look funny like that.

Posted by: Mandy is mad | May 9, 2008 6:43 PM

because our husbands know best. We have to do what Allah says. And my burqa is so tight around my narrow waist and large full breast.

Allah will take care of you infidel!

Posted by: Mandy El-Hussein | May 9, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

At this rate by tomorrow he will have been raised in a log cabin and used a candle to read.

Posted by: John | May 9, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

aided and abetted by the media, he would be nowhere without their help

Posted by: demnomore | May 9, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Actually, I dug that list out from earlier this year, and it seems as if some of the Committee members HAVE endorsed Obama or Hillary: http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=60BC4CC7-3048-5C12-007C617E6C969A9E

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Dan,

We're losing all respect for you.

This was no David vs. Goliath story.

Obama had the entire mainstream media working for him.

Hillary was the better person, more qualified candidate, winner of all the debates, and would be an infinitely better president.

The behavior of the Washington Post has been disgraceful.

Katherine Graham would be ashamed of you.

You have nothing to be proud of here.

You should hang your head in shame.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

The Democratic Party has to drive a wooden stake through the hearts of the 700 Club and reactionary neocon radio joker types who demonize them to the average stiff.

This can be done by carefully and convincingly showing white middle and working class Americans an alternative agenda and plan for the future, point by point, which contrasts itself to Republican failures and lies which have made their lives poorer and more desperate during the last eight years.

Posted by: HiloBob | May 9, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse


About time Bala, a picture of the winner

instead of your daily campaign ready picture of the lady looser.

Wearing yer flip-flops, as you give your phony advice, are you?

Posted by: veteran | May 9, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

No I am not not a racist, but neither do I subscribe to passive resistance. When you call other people simians and monkeys and jigaboos, I will be all over your racist ass!

Posted by: str8talk | May 9, 2008 6:44 PM

I didn't say those words. Sounds like you have some 'fessn' up to do.

Go to the CHurch of Obama and take care of your racism problem.

Posted by: Adarius La Chaquita | May 9, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

"If growing up with food stamps when he was a child, a single white mother, and white grandparents in a small apartment is elitist? Then what is the definition of poor?"

He wasn't POOR. They were BROKE a good deal of the time, but not POOR.

It's a useful distinction to remember. "Poor" means you see no way out and/or are stuck in systemic oppression and/or have no knowledge of, or access to, resources that could push you over the hump. "Broke" is when you do not have enough money to pay your bills at the moment, but you have skills and/or prospects and/or the kind of values, hope, and vision that will allow you to make your own way in the foreseeable future.

Obama's mother was a graduate student whose husband had abandoned her. She was broke. She used food stamps to make ends meet till she got her degree and could get a good job.

Obama's grandparents were caring for their grandson to help their daughter while she finished school. They were broke. But they understood the importance of a good education, and they applied for scholarship money to send their grandson to an excellent private school.

Being broke is a struggle, make no mistake. But it's different from, and much better than, being poor.

Hillary Clinton was never either poor or broke, except maybe for a year or two as a law student living in a fairly crappy neighborhood in New Haven.

Posted by: herzliebster | May 9, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: str8talk | May 9, 2008 6:32 PM
You hate white people...admit it you racist.
Posted by: Michael Jordan | May 9, 2008 6:34 PM

No I am not not a racist, but neither do I subscribe to passive resistance. When you call other people simians and monkeys and jigaboos, I will be all over your racist ass!

Posted by: str8talk | May 9, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

The funny thing is that by doing this the Washington Post is shooting itself in the foot.

As long as the primaries are going on, they get lots of page views and sell lots of newspapers.

When the primary ends, their readership will go way down.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

It's not Jihad. It's protecting your Freedom, so it's OK.

I do commend you for obeying your husband. He's probably got a bunch of other wives anyway, though.

By the way, why do you ladies all dress in pastel colors and put your hair up in that god awful way?

I think you look funny like that.

Posted by: Mandy is mad | May 9, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

man, I hate white people like mandy and sh*t!

Who da f*ck she be tinkin she be and sh*t?

Posted by: Spear chucker | May 9, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

NB:

I certainly cannot post the entire Internets on a WaPo blog.

Brad K:

I heard it was a total of TEN Super Delegates for Obama today ...

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

JakeD,

that's not interesting. That's semantics. This "race" is as over as the Hunt for Bin Laden.

Posted by: FakeJakeD | May 9, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

>>"Obama elitist. Didnt he grow up with a single mother and grand parents?"

There's a different between being an "elite" and an "elitist". Being an "elite" means that you're in the best league. Being "elitist" means that you're into acting like a sophisticate. It means that you're a snob and phony.

An "elite" is a person from a top law school, for example (Clinton went to Yale Law and Obama went to Harvard Law). An "elitist" is a phony and a snob, like someone who looks down on and talks down to other people.

That's why Obama has gotten tagged as "elitist". His comment that poor whites "cling" to guns and religion out of their ignorant frustration with the government was offensive and snobby, and it was obvious he ignorantly looked down on small town whites. (I think a better argument can be made that the people Obama hangs around with and people who cling to anti-white conspiracy theories and religion in their racial bitterness).

"elite" does not equal "elitist". Clinton is an "elite" because that has been her position in life for decades. Obama's phony snobbery makes him an "elitist", like most people who rise up in society from nothing and who try to fit in with elites and act better than them.

Maybe after Obama's been rich for a couple more years he will stop going around saying such ignorant and offensive superior comments, but he's irreparably damaged his standing with rural whites now.

Obama has "swift-boated" himself with his elitist comments about small town whites and his sloppy attempts to cover up his rabidly racist pastor's relationship with him.

Posted by: Annette Keller | May 9, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Mumbles McCentury McCain has proven to be not too bright. He doesn't have the intelligence to be president. Embracing Bush's failed policies is not smart. If McCain had a brain, then he would have distance himself from the worst president in history. Bush is internationally the humiliation of America. McCain will need a dictionary to keep up with Harvard Scholar Barack Obama during the debates.

Harvard Scholar Barack Obama will easily demonstrate McCain's weaknesses. Obama will maintain polite dignity and still make McCain look like a Bush Part III dunce. McCain will ask Barack to not use big words and thoughtful analogies during the debates.

Harvard Scholard Barack Obama will bring dignity and morality to the White House, unity to the country, and respect once again to America as the greatest country in the world.

Posted by: Christopheur | May 9, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Then, what are you waiting for , Mandy?

Posted by: | May 9, 2008 6:37 PM

My husband said I can't leave my house without my burqa. Besides, isn't jihad for stupid people like you?

Posted by: Mandy | May 9, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

How did I get so sexy? VOTING FOR HOTTY WITH BIG BOOTY HILLARY. W00t W00t, she hot.

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

You mean like letting him "chill out" in Pakistan while we attack Iraq for no reason?

Give the credit to your Fuhrer.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

So,once again all the WAPO Obama Nazis,all
the Michelle Obama Freaks.all the Obama
Youth,and Drunken Toxic Kool Aid Obamabots
are out in force,preaching their lies,and
hatred of Hillary Clinton and John McCain,
while praising and swearing an oath of full
loyalty to their Messiah and Der New Furhrer Barack Hussein Obama and following
his and Nancy Pelosi and Howard Dean and
Harmless old Harry Reid Orders Faithfully!
Just say NO to racist Barack Hussein Obama
and his hateful racist angry pekinese wife
Michelle Obama and Dean and Pelosi and Reid
and help take back America! NOBAMA!

Posted by: Sandy5274 | May 9, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Here's where it gets interesting:

Of the 161 remaining members, chosen by the campaigns proportionally to primary and caucus results, the Michigan and Florida delegations get to sit on the Credentials Committee!! The only restriction I am aware of is that Michigan cannot vote on the Florida challenge and vice versa. Hillary will therefore get her proportionate share of the Florida delegation on the Committee and Obama will get none of the Michigan Committee members because he wasn't on the ballot.

As to the Dean appointments, below, there's no reason to suspect they will be Obama loyalists. Indeed the co-chairs all have Clinton connections. Bottom line, if more than 20% of the Committee vote in favor of Hillary, there will be a majority and minority report and the Convention must take that up as the first order of business by rule. The vote on that will be a proxy for the vote of the Convention on the candidates themselves.

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Obama just did an interview with his uncle Osama Bin Laden thanking him for all the good he has done.

Posted by: Anderson Cooper | May 9, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Then, what are you waiting for , Mandy?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

On November 17 2007 , Columnist Robert Novak reported that the clinton camp has claimed to have a dirt or scandal against Barack Obama but they have decided not to use it against him , As Options rans out for her campaign , she later used it . Now we know the clinton camp was behind the release of the Rev.Jeremiah Wright sermon video clips .

Posted by: Oragar | May 9, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

I just saw El-Obama on Al-Jazeera saying he needs some volunteers to be suicide bombers in the USA to take care of "bitter white people."

Posted by: Mandy | May 9, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Dont be bitter, USA.
We love a John McCain. He grow our Economy Long Time. Make China Richest Country. Obama NO GOOD, OK?

You have choice. You no like cheap plasitc goods no more? What wrong? John McCain make work good and Golden Wallet Time. Vote John McCain. Obama is Black.

John Chen
President and Founder
USA Jobs Overseas Foundation

Posted by: John Chen | May 9, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Jake D, then next time, provide all the information, so that readers have all the information.

Posted by: NB | May 9, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Correction, that's +9 superdelegates today for Obama. I got a little ahead of myself. Nonetheless, enough to put Obama slightly in the lead, even, or within just a couple superdelegates of Clinton, depending on whose count you use, and erasing Clinton's only remaining advantage in this campaign. And more than enough to underscore the point that superdelegates are NOT going to rush in at the last minute and hand the nomination to Clinton. They're not going to rescue the loser, they're going with the winner: Barack Obama.

U-N-I-T-Y '08

Posted by: Brad K | May 9, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: str8talk | May 9, 2008 6:32 PM

You hate white people...admit it you racist.

Posted by: Michael Jordan | May 9, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

obama is afrocentric which is the same as being a member of the kkk as far as I am concerned. I do not see obama passing comprehensive immigration reform and I see him raising our taxes and then giving the money away to africa. betcha the dems will increase their pay next year if they get a supermajority and betcha they will pass laws to control free speech for them to maintain power.

Posted by: Dwight | May 9, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

El-Hussein Islam Obama hates white people, especially working ones. He has plans to eliminate them in order to secure more power if elected President.

Posted by: Barney Frank | May 9, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Regarding the arguments about white voters I believe a link to this article may convince some doubters: http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/19460/gallup-obamas-white-voter-support-about-the-same-as-john-kerrys/

Posted by: Moshe | May 9, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

HiloBob wrote: The vast majority of true Americans detests ANY racial supremacy claims, especially those which call America---AmeriKKKa. Only imbecilic inbred mouth breathing skunk butt sniffing white lightning guzzling toothless trailer park dwelling double digit I.Q. Rush Limbaugh worshiping primordial slime sucking and oozing scab licking quasi-human mutations could say anything like that.

Well said!

Posted by: str8talk | May 9, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Hillary will burn down the whole house to fry herself a couple of eggs. What a shame that she and Bill have ruined his legacy. She's the type that brings a gun to a knife fight. Time to go Hillary. It's over.

Posted by: Danielle4OBAMA | May 9, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Obama is Racist and Inexperience. He have Rev. Wright Problem, Terrorist, too. He no good for USA. Vote McCain. Make more people Happy and Good Luck, Golden Shower.

John Chen
President and Founder
USA Jobs Overseas Foundation

Posted by: John Chen | May 9, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Obama just announced he appoint a Hamas representative as liason for Middle Eastern Affairs as payback for their endorsement.

Posted by: David Axalramrod | May 9, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

JakeD,

I don't suggest that people who don't vote for Obama are racists. I'm trying to figure out why Democrats would vote for a politician whose policy they disagree with instead of a slightly darker version of politician they DO agree with.

Doing this could make you any number of things; Hypocrite, Sore Loser, Bigot, Mentally Retarded, Bitter, Petty, etc...

See I was hoping someone would say something that made sense, as opposed to playing the Reverse Race Card. (If you've ever played UNO you know what I mean)

Posted by: LeRouche | May 9, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

There is an old Native American anecdote that describes Hillary and her entire campaign for President. It also describes the essential nature of her supporters. It goes like this - A scorpion was wandering along the bank of the river, wondering how to get to the other side. Suddenly he saw a fox. He asked the fox to take him across the river.
The fox said, "No. If I do that, you'll sting me and I'll drown."
The scorpion assured him, "If I did that, we'd both drown."
The fox thought about it and finally agreed. So the scorpion climbed up on his back and the fox began to swim. But halfway across the river, the scorpion stung him.
As the poison filled his veins, the fox turned to the scorpion and said, "Why did you do that? Now you'll drown too."
"I couldn't help it," said the scorpion. "It's my nature."
Guess who the scorpion is?

Posted by: Rob | May 9, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

The current members of the Credentials Committee:

Dean Aguillen
Don Beyer
Jose Ceballos
Ralph Dawson
Sheila Dixon
Christopher Edley, Jr.
Hartina Flournoy
Maryscott "Scotty" Greenwood
Janice Griffin
Laura Harris
Kathy Hoyt
Carol Juneau
Scott Maddox
Iman Malik Mujahid
Adelita Grijalva
Maria Neira
Kate O'Connor
Carol Pensky
Bob Rogan
Leila Sahar
Marc Stanley
Michael Steed
William Straus

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

VOTE MCCAIN!! We need another 4 years of a president who misspeaks as often as he breathes and further embarrases around the world. He also graduated the bottom 5 from college. Obama graduated Harvard Law School at the top of his class. I prefer a dumb president over a smart one. MCCain has such great character that he cheated on his overweight wheelchaired wife for billion dollar babe, Cindy. What a stand up guy.

Posted by: Deggar | May 9, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Obama elitist. Didnt he grow up with a single mother and grand parents?

His mother and grandparents were White, were they not?

He has a half-sister who is Asian?


If growing up with food stamps when he was a child, a single white mother, and white grandparents in a small apartment is elitist? Then what is the definition of poor?

Posted by: Misfit | May 9, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

A Middle East policy adviser for Barack Obama has left the campaign after acknowledging having held talks with Hamas, FOX News confirms.

The Times newspaper in London first reported Friday that the campaign was severing ties with the adviser, Robert Malley.

Malley said he had been in contact with the Palestinian group, but only through his work for a "conflict resolution think tank," and not on behalf of the Obama campaign, the newspaper reported.

Obama spokesman Bill Burton told FOX News Malley was "an ancillary adviser who never met with Obama, literally one of hundreds of informal advisers who from time to time offered advice on Middle East policy."

Another Obama spokesman told The Times Malley "has no formal role in the campaign and he will not play any role in the future."

Hamas, which is labeled a terrorist organization by the State Department, is a touchy issue for the Obama campaign.

Hamas adviser Ahmed Yousef said in a recent interview, "We like Mr. Obama, we hope that he will win the election," and presumptive Republican nominee John McCain has poked fun at Obama for the apparent endorsement.

McCain has said he would be Hamas' "worst nightmare"; he told "The Daily Show's" Jon Stewart Wednesday that he could "guarantee" Hamas would not endorse him for president.

Obama accused McCain of "losing his bearings" and engaging in a smear campaign for the remarks.

Posted by: charles | May 9, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

What an appalling amount of hatemongers. I never would have thought such pure malice would come out of an American's mouth about another American. I am ashamed of your diatribes and your biggotry and the way you demean others. I would think any of the candidates that you back would be ashamed to call you a supporter. No wonder you despise Senator Obama - you will never understand unity.

Posted by: LB | May 9, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

To the moron who didn't have the courage to post at least a screen name:

Your outrageous comment about Michelle Obama was WAY out of bounds.

It's a good thing that there's no way for us to see YOU or to post photos here - I suspect your doggone arms are dragging the floor a bit. Your poor use of words, capitalization and spelling proved that to us all.

Go back under your rock!

Oh and PS.. Your momma!!!!

Posted by: tuesday1 | May 9, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Dr. Hung H. Phan:

As I am sure you are aware, Sen. McCain apologized for the "gooks" comment.

NB:

Yes (in October, right before the election ; )

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Annette Keller, you may be blind, then.

Posted by: ObamaRama | May 9, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

There is an old Native American anecdote that describes Hillary and her entire campaign for President. It also describes the essential nature of her supporters. It goes like this - A scorpion was wandering along the bank of the river, wondering how to get to the other side. Suddenly he saw a fox. He asked the fox to take him across the river.
The fox said, "No. If I do that, you'll sting me and I'll drown."
The scorpion assured him, "If I did that, we'd both drown."
The fox thought about it and finally agreed. So the scorpion climbed up on his back and the fox began to swim. But halfway across the river, the scorpion stung him.
As the poison filled his veins, the fox turned to the scorpion and said, "Why did you do that? Now you'll drown too."
"I couldn't help it," said the scorpion. "It's my nature."
Guess who the scorpion is?

Posted by: ROb | May 9, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

I'm watching Sen. Dodd say he doesn't "believe for a minute" that Clinton voters who say they would abandon Obama if he gets nominated, would actually vote for McCain.

The Obama supporters are in denial.

Posted by: Annette Keller | May 9, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

P.S. -- here are the Co-Chairs of the Credentials Committee:

Alexis Herman served as U.S. Secretary of Labor from 1997 to 2001. She served as DNC Chief of Staff for Chairman Ron Brown and later was named CEO of the 1992 Democratic National Convention. Since 2005, she has served as a Co-Chair of the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee and also served as a Co-Chair of the Commission on Presidential Nomination Timing and Scheduling.

James Roosevelt, Jr. is President and CEO of Tufts Health Plan, a Massachusetts based Health Maintenance Organization (HMO) and was formerly Associate Commissioner for Retirement Policy of the Social Security Administration in the Clinton Administration. He is the chief legal counsel for the Massachusetts Democratic Party and Co-Chair of the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee.

Eliseo Roques-Arroyo, a native of Puerto Rico, served as Executive Assistant to Commonwealth of Puerto Rico Senate Minority Leader Miguel Hernandez-Agosto and to Puerto Rico Delegate to Congress Antonio J. Colorado. He is a former Executive Director of the Democratic Party of Puerto Rico and presently a member of the DNC.

Each committee has a total of 186 members. If the Michigan and Florida issue is not resolved prior to the Convention, the Credentials Committee will make the final decision. That's what the DNC Rules provided for.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Or advice from a Gook, look it up, that's what McWar calls you, Hung, if that's your REAL name.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

People:
If you want another republican as president, vote for Obama, because Mc. Cain will defeat Obama, Mc. Cain is a war hero and has 20 years of experience as senator vs. Obama 1 and half year senator and words and promises with nothing to back these up.
Obama weaknesses will be in the daylight if he becomes the democrat nominee- lack of experiences-bad judgment (Rev.Wright) and did his wife said one time" I used to hate America until ...."
Promises are nice, but America is not ready for an African American president yet!!!
Dr. Hung H. Phan, President
Asian American Concerned Citizens League
Posted by: Dr. Hung H. Phan | May 9, 2008 4:33 PM

Posted by: Dr. Hung H. Phan | May 9, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Obama wants to paint the White House black and put all white people in concentration camps to make them pay reparations.
Posted by: Trigger with an N

And the truth of the matter finally comes out! Here is why Obama will not capture the blue collar whites who voted for Ronald Reagan, who decimated their unions, without whose protection their jobs ended up in China, Thailand and India. Rather than face reality they blamed Latinos for taking their jobs. And 28 yrs later they still vote against their best interests, being bitter and clinging to gun rights, religion, lapel pins and such. What an epiphany!

Posted by: str8talk | May 9, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

and McCain looks like Pastey the Angry Ghost, so what about it.

Nice Cheeks, by the way. What's he storing? Venom?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Chalk up yet another superdelegate for Obama, Virginia DNC member Joe Johnson. That makes +10 superdelegates for Obama today, net 0 (+1, -1) for Clinton.

This is like watching a dam break: first a trickle, then a steady stream, then a gusher, then a flood.

This is SO-O-O over!! Goodnight, Hillary! So long, Mark Penn! And by the way, Mark, if I were you I'd change my name and get some major plastic surgery because once these angry Clinton supporters come to realize what an absolutely stupid, bone-headed, idiotic campaign gameplan you gave Hillary, they'll tear you limb from limb. Their anger is now directed at Barack Obama but they'll realize soon enough that it was at least as much your ineptitude as it was Obama's skill as a campaigner that cost Hillary this once- "inevitable" nomination.

Posted by: Brad K | May 9, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

I think those people at the polygamist compound look funny. They dress strangely, but they vote Republican. Weird.

Maybe Republicans are outdated.

Posted by: monogamy for Billary | May 9, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Planet of the Apes just came on TNT.....I swear Michelle Simian Obama looks just like the doctor thing...

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

On November 17 2007 , Columnist Robert Novak reported that the clinton camp has claimed to have a dirt or scandal against Barack Obama but they have decided not to use it against him .Well as Options runs out for her campaign , she later used it . Now we know the clinton camp was behind the release of the Rev.Jeremiah Wright sermon video clips . What a BIG SHAME !!!

Posted by: Oragar | May 9, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Jake D, did you realize that theresa heinz kerry eventually released the first 2 pages of her tax return after massive amounts of republican pressure?

Posted by: NB | May 9, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

The vast majority of true Americans detests ANY racial supremacy claims, especially those which call America---AmeriKKKa. Only imbecilic inbred mouth breathing skunk butt sniffing white lightning guzzling toothless trailer park dwelling double digit I.Q. Rush Limbaugh worshiping primordial slime sucking and oozing scab licking quasi-human mutations could say anything like that.

Why don't all of you anal orifice lovers build a big compound on the slopes of an erupting volcano and go chase an asteroid into another world where you belong?

Posted by: HiloBob | May 9, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Larry Craig for McCain's VP !

Breaking News!

New voting booths: Just slide your vote under the stall partition. This is Great News! Liars and Deniars United!

Posted by: Chuck Shifflet, Jr. | May 9, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

>>JakeD wrote: "Has anyone seen Obama on CNN saying about Hillary: "obviously she'd be on anybody's short list to be a potential vice presidential candidate"?!"

Obama has nothing to offer Clinton in exchange for her vital support. The VP "isn't worth a bucket of warm spit."

Gallup today shows that Obama has the same "elitist" gap vs. McCain that Kerry had with Bush in 2004. He's basically blue-collar-white repulsive. Obama can't win in the Fall without Clinton's help. He might not even win with her help because he's crippled with the white lower-and-middle class base (which is basically her argument right now). The Obama-deluded media and cult is in denial about his Rev. Wright negatives. Alternatively, they are arguing, Who cares about the middle and lower class whites, we have all these new college kids and a higher percentage of blacks voting now and we don't need the white workers' votes? (They're wrong and they know it).

When Obama loses in the Fall, Clinton firstly will be vindicated and redeemed. Then, she can run in 2012 when McCain's first term is up. Obama has literally nothing to offer her that is worth her throwing her voters' support behind him that will enable him to win in the Fall. She doesn't need his money that badly, and she doesn't need the political favor of someone who will be an embarrassing loser in the Fall in an election that the Democrats shouldn't lose. Clinton will be proved right and she will be personally vindicated when Obama inevitably loses the White House for Democrats this Fall after all his empty rhetoric.

All Clinton has to do this Spring is NOT surrender the nomination willingly, so that it is clear that the Democratic Leadership and Obama are the ones doing an end-run around the rules to try to force her out before the convention. Once Obama and the Dean factions make their (rules-and-process-thwarting) move, Clinton can't be tagged a quitter. Once they force her out using outside-the-rules maneuvering to deny her the convention, Obama and those who support him so fanatically will be the ones who own the defeat that the future holds in store for the Democrats this Fall. Clinton can only say, I told you so? and Remember how hard I tried to explain to you how he would lose? and Remember how hard I tried to change the losing track the party was on?

That's all she needs from this process. There's nothing Obama can really offer her in exchange for her support, without which he cannot win in the Fall.

Clinton is not better off with the VP slot, which is useless. Whether or not she would accept an offer to be his VP, Clinton will still deny Obama a pledged delegate victory that he will get by default if she quits. She will not suspend before the end of the Primary season, if she does suspend.

Posted by: Annette Keller | May 9, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

To me, Obama surely is the loser in the match against Mc. Cain and the collossal election engine of the Republicans. I am a life-time Democrat, but this time, I will vote for Mc Cain. I never believe an extra left Democrat would take the White House. History will repeat itself, when we remember Mc Govern, Mondale, Dukakis, John Kerry.

Posted by: Mike Nguyen | May 9, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

if the sheet fits, JakeD . . .

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Nasty, smelly, nose picking Michelle Simian Obama wants to paint the White House black and put all white people in concentration camps to make them pay reparations.

El_Barack Muhammad Hussein Hassan Obama will be taking advice from Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe on how to steal land from whitey....the devil!

Posted by: Trigger with an N | May 9, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

LeRouche:

Maybe they are tired of being called "RACISTS"?

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Obama has failed in his biggest leadership challenge -- the one that can win or lose his White House bid in the Fall.
Obama has failed to get Hillary Clinton on his side.
Posted by: Annette Keller

Failed? What the hell are you talking about? Hilary is on no one's side but her own. If you cannot see that by now, you are in dire need of an eye exam. She could care less about you, Obama, the voters, the party or the country. Only her fanaticism, yes I said fanaticism in capturing her entitlement is she blindly loyal.

Posted by: str8talk | May 9, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Jake OOOH,THAT TICKLES D,

Take your robot Operation Chaos and shove it up your tookus!

Maybe you can guess what it is, since you like those "End Games" so much.

I don't get you. You back Obama, then you back McCain. You're just trying to piss everyone off!

Get a Life!

Posted by: Mark Smithers | May 9, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

How many Republican Congressmen does it take to father a child out of wedlock?
How many Republican Congressmen does it take to pay for 'back rubs' in DC?
How many Republican Congressmen does it take to cover up a scandal with young male pages?
How many Republican Senators does it take to get "some action" in the Men's room of airport Men's room?

How many times did the Republican Party claim to be God's chosen Party, protector of Morality, Family Values AND the unborn?

I haven't even started with the Disaster brought on by their (and McCains) unwavering support for the last 8 years.
McCain knew and didn't even vote for Bush because he knew he was Dangerous and yet, HE SUPPORTED him anyway!! If McCain had stood up to Bush how many lives would have been saved???

Posted by: thebob.bob | May 9, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

You sound like an inbred who walks on all four, and whose IQ is equal to the digits on your right hand, (3). Obama all the way!

Posted by: str8talk | May 9, 2008 5:53 PM

Just like rev. Wright is an inbred scumbag racist......like his prodigal son Obama.

Posted by: Trigger with an N | May 9, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

I don't want to call out anybody but---

After 20 debates we figured out that there were not any major policy differences between Obama and Hilary. The major difference is style. The other major difference is one is a Black Man and one is a White Woman.

And here are all these Hilary supporters threatening to vote for McCain if she does not win the nomination.

Obviously they never cared about policy in the first place, because they're almost identical. So they either have a problem with Obama's style, which is that of a man who talks to us like grown ups and errs on the side of truth as opposed to political correctness. Or they have a problem with him being a Black Man.

If there is another reason why Hilary supporters won't support Obama, I'd love to hear it.

Posted by: LeRouche | May 9, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Jamal, thanks for putting your "I'll vote for McCain" in boldface type, as if the extra emphasis will convince the rest of us to go for Hillary instead. All I have to say is, good luck with that, and if you think Obama has been conducting a dirty campaign you and the Republicans will be perfect for each other.

Posted by: jonfromcali | May 9, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Obama got to this point by not doing politics as usual, and not believing conventional wisdom. Your advise now is to do politics as usual and believe conventional wisdom? that is exactly the wrong thing.

Obama needs to stay true to himself, not become a packaged candidate, not overanalyze the campaign, but continue to speak the truth and be himself.

We are in a post media controlled political environment, even if those in the media still haven't recognized it.

Posted by: exhuming mccarthy | May 9, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

grandpa mccain is losing his brain... day by day...hee hee hee...ha...ha...ha... the man has positively lost his bearings....

http://www.savagerun.com

Posted by: gerald clough | May 9, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Obviously, I am pleased that the Senator I supported will probably be the nominee of the DNC. I feel that Sen. Obama must establish a good re pore with Sen. HRC. Her role in the party is critic as is her husbands, since he was the "Leader" of the party previously. But I believe the DNC is on the correct path and will our strength and help, like in JFK's time, we can be called upon to help change America back to a country that has been radically changed these last 8 years. It is going to be difficult since this government has been corrupted so significantly. We all must dig in and help make the words of "CHANGE - YES WE CAN" real.

My suggestion for now is each of us could help by insulating their houses, sealing the cracks that leak air and cost you money. Make sure you work with your local/state government to help establish legislation now to help you accomplish these simple goals. I just put Solar Photovoltaic Panels on my roof, more insulation in my walls and tightened up areas that were shown to me to be leaking area. This was all affordable because the State of Wisconsin has a program with both State and our Energy company to accomplish the payments. The analysis payment was 1/3rds the cost. The insulation cost was 1/3 the cost. The solar panels were about 5/6th the cost, but with creative financing, I was able to pay for the panels in 6 years, with a loan on my house. But, the key is not to do everything I did, but get the legislation passes locally and do the simple things now.

1 home can save 33,000 car output of CO2. This is only the start. Look up or write the Gov of Wisconsin to see how he and the legislator made it possible for me to help.

Please start, whatever you can afford to do on the local level and for yourself.

Posted by: jerry rubin | May 9, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Obama 08 !!

I'm jumpin' this Conservative ship while a small part of it is still above water !

Obama 08 ! Conservatives, UNITE!!

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Only the Democratic Party establishment of Kerry, Kennedy, Dean, Peloci is stupid enough to let the LOSER by double digits
Posted by: Jamal

The only person display gross idiocy is you, Jamal. And I suspect it would be a waste of time trying to enlighten you.

Posted by: str8talk | May 9, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

$9.5 trillion and counting, we owe China and Japan over a third because of the war. I havent heard McCain or Obama how will they end the debt. Not to metion, the gas price, the prices on food, and whatever.

All I am hearing now is McCain is offended by losing his "bearings"

Obama is decrying that he is "Hamas'" candidate which he is not.

I dont want to pay my taxes to pay T-Bonds interests to China and Japan. The Europeans are using the dollar as toilet paper.

And all I hear are petty insults.

And they tell me that I vote for either of them.

I want issues, not insults.

Insults wont pay my bills.

Posted by: Misfit | May 9, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Someone erroneously posted here that Obama has won none of the "big states." Actually, if you take the 10 biggest states by population, Obama won 3 (Illinois, Georgia, North Carolina) by wide margins, while Clinton won 5 (California, Texas, New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio). Two (Florida and Michigan) did not have legal votes, the candidates didn't campaign there, and Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan, consequently we can't really say how they would have voted.

If you take the 20 largest states, Obama won 8 and Clinton won 10.

If you take the 25 largest states, Obama won 13 and Clinton won 10.

So bottom line, this "big state" myth is largely just that, a myth propagated by the Clinton campaign.

And in any event it's a foolish mistake to think "big states" are the only states that matter in a presidential election. The 2000 election ended up turning on Florida, but Florida would have been irrelevant if Al Gore had only won his home state of Tennessee, a medium-sized state; or Missouri, another medium-sized state; or either West Virginia or New Hampshire, both small states. A lot of people think John Kerry lost in 2004 because he lost Florida and Ohio, but he could have won without either of those states if he had carried, say, Colorado, New Mexico, and Nevada (19 electoral votes total), or Missouri and Iowa (18 electoral votes total).

In all, there are probably 20 or so states that are or could be "in play" in the 2008 general election. Clinton currently polls a little stronger than Obama in 5 of them, Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Missouri, and West Virginia, but Obama is still highly competitive in all except West Virginia, and he leads McCain by a statistically significant margin in Pennsylvania. Obama consistently polls stronger than Clinton in match-ups against McCain in about 15 states including Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Indiana, Connecticut, Colorado, Nebraska, New Mexico, Nevada, Washington, Oregon, Hawaii, North Carolina, and Virginia, and some polls even show Obama competitive with McCain in Texas (yes, Texas!). The combined electoral votes of these states dwarf the electoral votes of Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania, yet the Clintonites keep trying to tell you those three are the only ones that matter come November.

Superdelegates, at least, are not being fooled by the Clintons' fuzzy math. This is over.

Posted by: Brad K | May 9, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Obama has failed in his biggest leadership challenge -- the one that can win or lose his White House bid in the Fall.

Obama has failed to get Hillary Clinton on his side.

Posted by: Annette Keller | May 9, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

ziggy 1:

LOL!!!

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Clinton has a 43-point advantage over Obama in West Virginia, 66 percent to 23 percent, according to a new survey from the American Research Group.

The poll was conducted entirely after Tuesday's primary results. Hillary will take the lead in popular votes after next Tuesday. Obama's phony lead is built entirely on suppressing millions in Florida and Michigan. The MSM is in the tank of Obama from the beginning. Objective Journalism has been flushed down the toilet. Except Fox News everyone is writing Hillary off when she most likely will win the popular votes.

I will vote for McCain if Obama steals the nomination, as almost half of Hillary supporters will do. The dirty politics on display now from the media and Obama campaign is really disgusting. Only the Democratic Party establishment of Kerry, Kennedy, Dean, Peloci is stupid enough to let the LOSER by double digits in Ohio, Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania, California, New York, New Jersey and Massachusetts be the nominee?

Posted by: Jamal | May 9, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone seen Obama on CNN saying about Hillary: "obviously she'd be on anybody's short list to be a potential vice presidential candidate"?!

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

To Kuilor -

McCain is perfect for you!

Current loser, meet future loser.

Posted by: Franky | May 9, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

I think Barak has the right idea. We need to negotiate more with our enemies. After Iraq, we see that the military is not the answer. After Barak is elected president I would hope he would invite the Iranian president, leaders of Hamas and Hezbollah, and perhaps some of the Iranian religous leaders to the white house. He may even want them to listen to one of Reverend Wrights sermons. These are good people. We need to negotiate with them and maybe we can convert them to Christianity? If we do that we can dismantle our military and use the money to help the poor in this country and free health care for everyone. I'm sure the price of oil will also go down. I also believe that Minister Farakahn would make an excellent secretary of state. William Ayers has been wrongly protrayed by the right wing media. With his experience in explosives I believe he would be an excellent candidate for secretary of defense. You'll excuse me now its time for my medication.

Posted by: ziggy 1 | May 9, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

After 8 years or GOP, the people a fed up with conservatives politics. Looks like McCain will loose a second time to Bush.

Posted by: INZ | May 9, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Where's the news on the butcher Olmert? WashPost is an AIPAC tool.

Posted by: zsrsdrte | May 9, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

No. Did you?

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Did you come out from a STAR WARS convention? Just asking because of your comment.


"I voted for Obama during PHASE 1 of Operation CHAOS -- so, I can't be all that "bad" right -- until we meet again may the Great Spirit make sunrise in your heart, and may your moccasines make tracks of many snows yet to come".

Posted by: misfit | May 9, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

str8talk:

I see why you would be embarrassed to put your name behind your post too.

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

anonymous wrote: skinny african monkey barack hussein el-obama and his simian looking wife hate AmeriKKKa like their minister the jigaboo jeremiah wright.
Posted by: | May 9, 2008 5:44 PM

I see why you would be embarrassed to put your name behind your post. You sound like an inbred who walks on all four, and whose IQ is equal to the digits on your right hand, (3). Obama all the way!

Posted by: str8talk | May 9, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

HILLARY cannot win when 1/2 ofthe country even those not voting do not like her. John McCain will win in November unless he is crazy enough to make her his VP. Hillary is more right wing than John ... and the Republican Conservative Base don't trust him. He will disappoint on Immigration Reform.

Posted by: Hubba Hubba | May 9, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Just to let all know ... when I speak ... I am an American with family values ... not what people are describing as wide stance foot tapping ... and I am not bitter

Posted by: Hubba Hubba | May 9, 2008 5:47 PM
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I perfected the wide stance foot tapping in the film "Babes on Broadway," in 1925. It was an old silent film, but I believe I saw John McCain at the opening.

Posted by: Francine Footsies | May 9, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Chief Two Dogs:

I voted for Obama during PHASE 1 of Operation CHAOS -- so, I can't be all that "bad" right -- until we meet again may the Great Spirit make sunrise in your heart, and may your moccasines make tracks of many snows yet to come.

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Why do pundits keep saying that Hillary was a "formidable and impressive candidate ?"

Given her crying,her blaming the debate moderators for always having to have the first question, the Bosnia lies, her mismanagment of her campaign funds... How on earh is someone who started with all the advantages "formidable" ? She says she is a fighter, but she's really just a denier of reality at this point.. There's something truly psychologically wrong with her and she's more out of control with her statements on white voters and obliterating Iran.

If Obama had made up that Bosnia story, he would have been laughed out of the race so fast. The media has given her a pass. Time to show this narcissistic woman the door.

Posted by: Victoria | May 9, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Someone said I was doing "gorilla" math on a different thread ...

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Look at this:
"THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS DEAD
(ROLL IN GRAVE)
Posted by: FDR | May 9, 2008 5:30 PM"

They said this same thing when the Civil Rights Amendment was passed back in 1964.

Democrats were jumping ship all over the place because some couldn't stand the thought of blacks having equal rights under the law. Here we are, 47 years later with our first Half-rican American President and the same old-timers crying again and complaining that they are rolling over in their graves.
Please, don't let us stop you, go ahead and roll over!

This is a new day and new time!


NOW, MORE THAN EVER, BARACK OBAMA!


Posted by: Linda Love Jones | May 9, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Calling racial names to Obama and his family is not working for your cause.

Posted by: misfit | May 9, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Just to let all know ... when I speak ... I am an American with family values ... not what people are describing as wide stance foot tapping ... and I am not bitter

Posted by: Hubba Hubba | May 9, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Calling Barack Obama "monkey" was uncalled for. Now, I really think people who vote for McCain and not Obama are racists.

I'm independent and even I know when not to cross.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse


Look at this:
"THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS DEAD
(ROLL IN GRAVE)
Posted by: FDR | May 9, 2008 5:30 PM"

They said this same thing when the Civil Rights Amendment was passed back in 1964.

Democrats were jumping ship all over the place because some couldn't stand the thought of blacks having equal rights under the law. Here we are, 47 years later with our first Half-rican American President and the same old timers crying again and complaining that they are rolling over in their graves. Please, don't let us stop you, go ahead and roll over!

NOW, MORE THAN EVER, BARACK OBAMA!

Posted by: Linda Love Jones | May 9, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

skinny african monkey barack hussein el-obama and his simian looking wife hate AmeriKKKa like their minister the jigaboo jeremiah wright.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

monkey barack hussein el-obama and his simian looking wife hate AmeriKKKa like their minister the jigaboo jeremiah wright.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

What a Rush ... Thanks Tuesday ... not realizing it is Friday already

Posted by: Hubba Hubba | May 9, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Ha ha ha. JakeD, Hillary already vetting Obama. If there was anything else to be had, she would have used it.

About the other knuckleheads crowing about operation chaos, that thing was a failure. How the hell is it going to affect the fall campaign? Are you guys switching over to vote for the great Obama. If so, good. Please do so. [The Chief was a Republican too until Katrina. He and Mr. Bush, as well as his party, parted ways like a fork in the river.]

My bus is here, the old S2, I have an appointment to make on the National Mall!

Bye Bye, and all hail Obama!

Posted by: Chief Two Dogs | May 9, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Jolly:

"Win" the nomination, sure. I wouldn't vote for her in November if you gave me a million dollars.

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

To "Hubba Hubba" whom I suspect is NOT

The dummy's name who advocated for repubs to vote Democrat to "mess up" the race - is RUSH Limbaugh not Russ.

You know that old saying it's better to keep your mouth shut rather than talking and letting people know what's really in your head...

Posted by: tuesday1 | May 9, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

playa (and everyone else upset that Cindy McCain won't release her tax records):

Were you aware that Teresa Heinz-Kerry refused to release her tax returns in 2000?

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

JakeD the wide stance ... foot tapping Republican ... secretly wants Hillary to win

Posted by: Jolly | May 9, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Young Uns:

Did you hear James say "I'm no longer the stupidest Survivor!"?

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

John D in Houston:

I'm still trying to find the "bullet point" presentation ...

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who calls themselves a Christian and doesn't vote FOR Obama will show themselves to be what they truly are - a heretic!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

If Hillary want every one to have a chance to vote in West V, Kent and Oregon all she has to do is leave her name on the ballot as she did in Michigan ... and do a backdoor campaign as she did in Florida. She is quickly becoming the biggest loser (not talking weight) in this nomination round ... worse than Rudy Guiliani who had a holiday in Florida for over a month waiting for momentum to come to him ... It is as bad as giving up your immunity idol on survivor

Posted by: Young Uns | May 9, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm really internally conflicted about a number of matters. I crave attention and I've constructed a fragile ego built on false notions of importance.

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Is the takeaway point here: "don't take anything for granted"? Really, that's the analysis? That is so flat that it verges on patronizing.

Posted by: 02138Politico | May 9, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Barach H. Oboma is a very intelligent politician and doesn't say anything he hasn't carefully first thought out to have the maximum affect. What I mean is, he knew the public reaction was going to be negative to his remarks regarding our constitutional rights to bear arms and have religious freedom , and that he would emerge stronger having gained respect from his party faithful for saying something no thoughtful person or junior senator would even consider, but was designed to get and got big time the publics attention.

To that end he has succeeded and will receive an atta boy from George Soros: Mister Money Bags and political advisor, Reverend Wright: Main man Advisor, Tony Rezo:Indicted Fixer and last but not least William Ayers the guy who likes to stomp on our flag and bomb the Pentagon.All of these guys stand an excellent chance of being Barach H. Obomas chief cabinet members and advisors.The only thing we have to do to prevent this from happening is to vote for John Mc Cain.

Posted by: John's Son | May 9, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

JakeD - since you KNOW the real Senator Obama that the 527's are going to "out" why don't you give us a few facts? Did you happen to notice that the Republicans lost a special House race last week where they used the same old tactics of the past, trying to tie the candidate to the supposed slurs of "Liberal", "Tax and Spend" and "the candidate will do Pelosi and Obama's bidding"

How'd that turn out?

Posted by: John D in Houston | May 9, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

(Did I miss the "bullet point" presentation?)

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

I admit to the fact that Obama's organizational skills and stellar campaign management outshine Clinton's. McCain still has a chance though. I hope.

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Those are just some things that us typical white people clinging to guns and religion are thinking about. And why many, many dems will votes for McCain.

Posted by: RightPOV | May 9, 2008 5:20 PM

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Have fun voting for McCain, who couldn't be bothered to support a GI Bill sponsored by the great Jim Webb. Go down the hall, look for the door marked "misinformed boob" and walk through it to register with McCain. bye now...

Posted by: RightPOV is a proud organizer of the "clueless for McCain" campaign | May 9, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Oragar:

Good point.

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Subconsciously ... not meaning to say that poor people who don't have hope of ever achieving the American Dream are bitter ... Could he have been describing Hillary and her own American Dream - President?

In the Fall John McCain will get his dream.

Operation Chaos

Posted by: Hubba Hubba | May 9, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Right POV - Nice bullet points - you do realize that none of these statements are facts, don't you? More of the same old politics of the past - shade the truth, make something out of nothing, blow a remark out of proportion.

If you're right, I'm glad to be wrong.

Posted by: John D in Houston | May 9, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Kate Henry:

Thanks for your thoughts. Once the 527s introduce America to the real Barack HUSSEIN Obama, he'll be lucky if the only thing that happens to him is his numbers tanking.

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: FDR | May 9, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Kuilor,

You are the ilk that no party wants. I am a republican and frankly we do not want to be seen as the party of racist and ignorance anymore. Just go away. Mccain can win without you.

Posted by: Serious Answer Now | May 9, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

I want Obama to win so bad. I'm going to hold my breath until everyone makes him President!!!

Posted by: Kate Henry | May 9, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Well, for all the Hillarious Posters out there . If you believe Obama is the weakest Candidate in the race , How do you exepect Your Woman to beat the stronger Candidate , JOHN MACCAIN When she is now been beating into political Coma by the alledged weaker candidate ,BARACK OBAMA ?

Posted by: Oragar | May 9, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Do you Obama supporters really think you can gain votes from us Clinton supporters by demanding that the democratic party get back together after all the hatefilled venomous remarks you screamed in our faces over these last few months?

It would take more than a few 'we need to get the party back to gether' comments to make me forget how many times some Obama supporter called me a racist for voting for Clinton in the primary. And then after that sort of extremely poor behavior, the blacks vote at 92% for Obama. Who is the racist here?

I know for a fact that I would vote McCain faster than I would vote Obama in the general election simply because a candidate is a reflection of the supporters he gets. And Obama's supporters are some seriously twisted minds that think anything non-Obama is a racist, gun crazed religious nut that is bitter. Frankly, I am bitter, but I don't own a gun or go to church (I'm an Athiest), I use my vote to clearly state what I want in my politicians, and one of the things I do not want is the extreme left wing of my party running rough-shot over the rest of the nation. We saw what happens when an extremist gets into the white house (George W Bush is the extreme right of the republican party), and I think I've had enough of that extremist thing. I'll take good old Senator McCain, the centrist that reaches across the isle to Democrats, not Obama with the idea that unity is only his extreme left wing of the party.

Posted by: Kuilor | May 9, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton has helped Barack Obama to stay the front runner. What she seems to think will make her look like the tough hard to beat opponent, I think makes her look like she has the sang froid and determination of a psychopath. One moment claiming in a commanding performance she will not answer "what ifs" regarding sensitive matters of foreign policy and then, when her campaign is short of funds, jumping to answer the biggest "what if" of all, as to what she would do if Iran attacked Israel? Her response - obliterate Iran. And why? - to attract rich Jews to donate money to her financially strapped campaign. And for that, she made such an out and out irresponsible pronouncement, completely insensitive to the men and women risking their lives in Iraq in a war she authorized, and to the people of Iran who she so blithely announced she would wipe off the face of the earth. And, then she has the nerve to tell people she is superior and experienced and will save them a few bucks this summer on gas tax, when the possibility of passing the legislation is just about nil, and it would ultimately inflame, not help the problem. This woman then says that "hard working people" "whites" who do not have college educations will not vote for Obama - apparently because they are largely, as she implies, racists. This woman is losing because she has shown she is truly heartless and has no respect for the intelligence and integrity of ordinary people. We do not know what Hillary truly believes and wants except to be President. She is the woman who authorized this horrible war in Iraq and has not apologized to the American people. She should be on her hands and knees because what she was then, a fawning politician is what she is now, a fawning politician with not one idealistic bone in her body. It is a pity that the first woman to make run for the Dem nomination for President should be nothing but a cold, and calculating cookie.

Posted by: Madeleine | May 9, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

"The truth of the matter is Daffy Duck could beat John McCain."
Then how do you explain these polls?
McCain is AHEAD of Obama in head-to-head State polling.
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Polls at this time mean absolutely nothing for a couple of reasons. The first is that they are skewed because a majority of Americans still think John McCain is a Maverick and a moderate. Once the Democrats introduce America to the real John McCain, his numbers will tank.

The second reason is a very important reason that many people ignore. And that is the young new voters and the sheer quantity of people who are voting in the Democratic primaries. There is no way that polls can take those two factors into effect. They pool "likely voters" not newly registered voters. And a poll has no way of taking into consideration the number of new voters.

So, I'll say it again, Daffy Duck (if he wasn't running as a Republican) could beat John McCain.

Posted by: Kate Henry | May 9, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Brad K

If you take away Hillary's polling ... she will tank ... Tha is so unfair ... we live by those polls ... That tells us that if we win Puerto Rico WE WIN

Posted by: JakeA | May 9, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton has helped Barack Obama to stay the front runner. What she seems to think will make her look like the tough hard to beat opponenet, I think looks to most people like the sang froid of a psychopath. One moment claiming in a commanding performance she will not answer "what ifs" regarding sensitive matters of foreign policy and then, when her campaign is short of funds, jumping to answer the biggest "what if" of all, as to what she would do if Iran attacked Israel? Her response - obliterate Iran. And why? - to attract rich Jews to donate money to her financially strapped campaign. And for that, she made such an out and out irresponsible pronouncement, completely insensitive to the men and women risking their lives in Iraq in a war she authorized, and to the people of Iran who she so blithely announced she would wipe off the face of the earth. And, then she has the nerve to tell people she is superior and experienced and will save them a few bucks this summer on gas tax, when the possibility of passing the legislation is just about nil, and it would ultimately inflame, not help the problem. This woman then says that "hard working people" "whites" who do not have college educations will not vote for Obama - apparently because they are largely, as she implies, racists. This woman is losing because she has shown she is truly heartless and has no respect for the intelligence and integrity of ordinary people. We do not know what Hillary truly believes and wants except to be President. She is the woman who authorized this horrible war in Iraq and has not apologized to the American people. She should be on her hands and knees because what she was then, a fawning politician is what she is now, a fawning politician with not one idealistic bone in her body. It is a pity that the first woman to make run for the Dem nomination for President should be nothing but a cold, and calculating cookie.

Posted by: Madeleine | May 9, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Yep Stupid People Love Hillary!

Bitter Taste O8...Is it over yet?

Posted by: Hillary Supporter | May 9, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Well, for all the Hillarious Posters out there . If you believe Obama is the weakest Candidate in the race , How do you exepect Your Woman to beat the stronger Candidate , JOHN MACCAIN When she is now been beating into political Coma by the alledged weaker candidate ,BARACK OBAMA ?

Posted by: Oragar | May 9, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Hillary and her supporters are of the same mind set and carry the same belief systems. That is why I believe many of them when they say they will never vote for Obama. I believe them when they say they will vote for McCain. Her campaign appeals to these kinds of people. We all know someone n our own lives like them. They are our neighbors, friends, and co-workers. These people always see life as a constant struggle. It doesn't matter how well they do. They always see themselves fighting against something. They always see themselves as the victim of something or another. They believe they are always short changed no matter what the circumstances. These are the people in our lives who lack perspective. But most of all they are the pessimists among us. You can hear their ruminations sound out loud and clear - Everything is stacked against you, no matter how much you work you will never get ahead, everything is for the benefit of everyone else but me, etc. etc.etc. Somewhere along the line these people believe they were short changed or mistreated and from that experience they have taken an essentially negative view of life. That is what Hillary speaks to. It is her essential message and it is essentially negative and pessimistic. What it says about human nature and our core virtue as a nation is not good. In the end people have rejected this message which was predictable. There is an old Native American anecdote that describes Hillary and her entire campaign for President. It also describes the essential nature of her supporters. It goes like this - A scorpion was wandering along the bank of the river, wondering how to get to the other side. Suddenly he saw a fox. He asked the fox to take him across the river.
The fox said, "No. If I do that, you'll sting me and I'll drown."
The scorpion assured him, "If I did that, we'd both drown."
The fox thought about it and finally agreed. So the scorpion climbed up on his back and the fox began to swim. But halfway across the river, the scorpion stung him.
As the poison filled his veins, the fox turned to the scorpion and said, "Why did you do that? Now you'll drown too."
"I couldn't help it," said the scorpion. "It's my nature."
Guess who the scorpion is?

Posted by: Rob | May 9, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

OPERATION CHAOS AT WORK ... seems like the Dems are eating each other alive. Thanks you Russ ... for all your support!!

Posted by: Hubba Hubba | May 9, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

I find it interesting that so many Clinton supporters pound on the fact that she has much greater support from blue collar workers and non-college graduates. What is the message they are trying to push, that the less educated and informed you are, the more you will like Clinton?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

"National polling firm Rasmussen Reports announced on Friday that it will stop polling people about the presidential campaign of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton because her opponent, Sen. Barack Obama, will win the Democratic nomination."

It's over. Last one out, turn out the lights.

Posted by: Brad K | May 9, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

My apologies, Chief Two Dogs -- I smoke'm too much peace pipe today -- make sure you take a quarter and this phone number with you:

(202) 574-2245

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

That's right JakeD. It will be a sight to behold. I am 123 years old, and still outdance an old frail 71 year-old Republican.

OBAMA, honorary Human Being!

Posted by: Chief Two Dogs | May 9, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

"I am just a "naive" voter who wants to know who to vote this November.


I would like to know, enlighten me."

Glad to:

Obama is against NAFTA. Hates NAFTA. Get RID of NAFTA. until his envoy was caught meeting with the Canadians saying "don't listen to that- he's just saying it".

Obama loves small town America. He even put on bowling shoes and bowled. Then in a city fundraiser he belittles them.

Obama loves Rev. Wright. Join the Church. Sat there for 20 years. Married by him, baptized the kids. When he gets caught: A) big speech on race- we don't get it, it's really our fault, "typical white person" like his racist grandma. When THAT didn't work B) denounce and deny and condemn such statements. The changing factor was losing the PA primary by 10.

The Obamas when to Ivy league undergrad and grad. Yet "I've never been proud of my country". Wow.

He asked farmers in Iowa about whole foods. There is no whole foods in Iowa.

He sat in the Senate and cast HUNDREDS OF VOTES "Present" because he WOULD NOT take a stand on the issue.

He chairs a committee on Afghanistan (there is a war there, right?) and has YET to call a meeting.

His first campaign fundraiser was hosted by a KNOWN, PROUD, UNREPENTANT domestic terrorist who blew up USG buildings.

He does not do open press events.

He joined NONE of the bi-partisan efforts in the Senate.

He has authored NO legislation.

He is the messiah candidate but STILL cannot close the deal.

He won NONE of the big states. NONE.

Those are just some things that us typical white people clinging to guns and religion are thinking about. And why many, many dems will votes for McCain.

Posted by: RightPOV | May 9, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Barach H. Oboma is a very intelligent politician and doesn't say anything he hasn't carefully first thought out to have the maximum affect. What I mean is, he knew the public reaction was going to be negative to his remarks regarding our constitutional rights to bear arms and have religious freedom , and that he would emerge stronger having gained respect from his party faithful for saying something no thoughtful person or junior senator would even consider, but was designed to get and got big time the publics attention.

To that end he has succeeded and will receive an atta boy from George Soros: Mister Money Bags and political advisor, Reverend Wright: Main man Advisor, Tony Rezo:Indicted Fixer and last but not least William Ayers the guy who likes to stomp on our flag and bomb the Pentagon.All of these guys stand an excellent chance of being Barach H. Obomas chief cabinet members and advisors.The only thing we have to do to prevent this from happening is to vote for John Mc Cain.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

We won't go away. We will let you know that we told you so. Never fear Will Babyobama resort to the finger toward old men like he did with women.
I like a class act Sounds like Cheney, another class act.


Posted by: Chief | May 9, 2008 5:15 PM
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No Obama is a class act...I'm not...look down at your hands. Pull your thumb, index, pinky and pointer finger in a ball the finger left is the one I am flicking at you...feel better?

I do!

Posted by: Chief is a moron | May 9, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Do you Obama supporters really think you can gain votes from us Clinton supporters by demanding that the democratic party get back together after all the hatefilled venomous remarks you screamed in our faces over these last few months?

It would take more than a few 'we need to get the party back to gether' comments to make me forget how many times some Obama supporter called me a racist for voting for Clinton in the primary. And then after that sort of extremely poor behavior, the blacks vote at 92% for Obama. Who is the racist here?

I know for a fact that I would vote McCain faster than I would vote Obama in the general election simply because a candidate is a reflection of the supporters he gets. And Obama's supporters are some seriously twisted minds that think anything non-Obama is a racist, gun crazed religious nut that is bitter. Frankly, I am bitter, but I don't own a gun or go to church (I'm an Athiest), I use my vote to clearly state what I want in my politicians, and one of the one of the things I do not want is the extreme left wing of my party running rough-shot over the rest of the nation. We saw what happens when an extremist gets into the white house (George W Bush is the extreme right of the republican party), and I think I've had enough of that extremist thing. I'll take good old Senator McCain, the centrist that reaches across the isle to Democrats, not Obama with that has the idea that unity is only his extreme left wing of the party.

Posted by: Kuilor | May 9, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

We need to come up with a nickname for Barrack O'Bama - do we just call him BO for short?

Posted by: SatNiteLive | May 9, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

That other Chief posting here is not from my tribe, the Human Beings.

Posted by: Chief Two Dogs | May 9, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Dr. Hung H. Phan, President
Asian American Concerned Citizens League wrote...

...and did his wife said one time "I used to hate America until ...."


No, as a matter of fact she didn't say anything of the sort. Dr. Phan, you need to do your research, you're doing the rest of your group a real disservice.


Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Chief:

Aren't you late for your victory dance on the National Mall in full war paint and dress tonight?

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

I'll take good old Senator McCain, the centrist that reaches across the isle to Democrats, not Obama that has the idea that unity is only his type of unity.

Posted by: Kuilor | May 9, 2008 5:09 PM

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bye then...

Posted by: OMG Mindy, Kuilor is BFF with McCain - I am totally grossed out to the max! | May 9, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Noticed that Hillary has 0.5 of a super delegate ... Is that 12% John Edwards again sitting on the fence?

Posted by: Hubba Hubba | May 9, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

LABC:

Did I ever tell you that I voted for Obama in our primary?

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Please go away.


Posted by: james -
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We won't go away. We will let you know that we told you so. Never fear Will Babyobama resort to the finger toward old men like he did with women.
I like a class act Sounds like Cheney, another class act.

Posted by: Chief | May 9, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Obama called us bigots. The great bonehead spoke. Twice he has done that. In his great, BS cover my butt, race speech and the bitter speech in SF Cal. I won't forget.
Obaama said we were a bunch of bigots. We think he is a bonehead idiot. Nuff said.
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Obama has never called anyone a bigot. Would you care to post any link where he said that?

But, if it makes you feel better to think so, well, you gotta do what you gotta do.

I know it hurts to be on the losing side. My sympathies are with you.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

I love Monica ... sorry Hillary ... She is a fighter ... storm trooper ... one of us ...

In your corned Hill ... Give them Hell

Posted by: Bubba | May 9, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Brad K:

We'll see in November, won't we?

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Chief,

You are a bigot...and a moron as well. Feel better? I do! HAHAHAHAHAHA...LOSER!!

Posted by: Chief is a moron | May 9, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

LABC:

Nope, it's right next to the vacant lot that was sold by Tony Rezko which has nothing whatsoever to do with Obama's house ; )

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 5:06 PM

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Oh that one - near the flag pin factory that now imports from China the required accessory for McCain supporters, to show how patriotic they are. I understand that under the McCain health plan it will be pressed into the hands of sick uninsured folks as a cure. Floridians are crazy about that plan...

Posted by: LABC | May 9, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

neil:

Were you aware that PHASE 1 of Operation CHAOS consisted of voting FOR Obama?

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

To all the Hillary Supporters out there who keep whining:

Hillary Superdelegates 271.5
Obama Superdelegates 271

They know it is over, Obama & McCain supporters know its over

The Media Knows its over

Hell svreader knows its over

What the heck is wrong with the rest of you people?

ITS OVER LET IT GO...You guys need prayer or something

Posted by: Here we go again | May 9, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Jake D:
I never said superdelegates weren't important. Indeed, they matter a whole lot more now that we're down to the endgame. All along the Clinton camp crowed about how she had such a big lead in superdelegates, and when it became clear she couldn't catch Obama in elected delegates her whole strategy became to get the superdelegates to reverse the will of the voters by coming to her rescue. But it's clear now that the superdelegates won't do that. It's perfectly clear Obama is going to end up with a majority of elected delegates by May 20, and the superdelegates are making it perfectly clear their role will be to ratify the outcomes of the primaries and caucuses by going with the overall winner---not with the loser, as the Clinton camp has argued. The trickle of superdelegates toward Obama is quickly turning into a flood. Clinton now has zero chance. Zero.

Oh, and asnother thing, you're way overreading those poll numbers at electoral-vote.com. Look at Florida again. The latest poll there shows McCain with a 1 point lead over Obama, so when you say Obama can't win Florida, you're just dead wrong. And the 280 electoral votes they give Clinton include Iowa where she leads by 1 point, Oregon where she leads by 1 point, Washington State where she leads by 3 points, Connecticut where she leads by 3 points, Hawaii where she leads by 4 points, Minnesota where she leads by 5 points, West Virginia where she leads by 5 points, Delaware where she leads by 5 points, and Maine where she leads by 5 points. Many of these are within the polls' margins of error. In short, McCain is highly competitive with Clinton in a lot of states that should not be battlegrounds, and are safely Democratic if Obama's the nominee.

Posted by: Brad K | May 9, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Kate Henry:

"The truth of the matter is Daffy Duck could beat John McCain."

Then how do you explain these polls?

McCain is AHEAD of Obama in head-to-head State polling.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/May09.html

And, McCain would LOSE to Clinton (if the vote was held today).

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Clinton/Maps/May09.html

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Don't worry BO. The media will continue to be in the tank for you and will lie, cheat and steal to make sure you're president. They'll cover for you like they did the Clintons. They will report what they want, not the news and will continue to snicker with you about how stupid Americans are.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Were it not for "the butterball Rush operation chaos" voters Hillary would already be out of the picture. How embarrassing it should be to her that the only thing that has kept her candidacy viable is the intervention of Rush Limfat. Then again, she is so shameless and arrogant that she will take whatever she can get wherever she can get it. Her assertion that she is electible over Obama is a joke. If Rush can sway her election in the primaries why wouldn't he be able to decimate her in the general? The answer is....he would destroy her. Her support is a mirage which would evaporate as the true republican voters who have been switching to drag this out return to their foul nest of republican support for Mcbush.

Posted by: neil | May 9, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Do you Obama supporters really think you can gain votes from us Clinton supporters by demanding that the democratic party get back together after all the hatefilled venomous remarks you screamed in our faces over these last few months?

It would take more than a 'we need to get the party back to gether' post to make me forget how many times some Obama supporter called me a racist for voting for Clinton int he primary. And then after that sort of extremely poor behavior, they go and vote at 92% black vote to Obama? Who is the racist here?

I know for a fact that I would vote McCain faster than I would vote Obama int he general election simply because a candidate is a reflection of the supporters he gets. And Obama's supporters are some seriously twisted minds that think anything non-Obama is a racist, gun crazed religious nut that is bitter. Frankly, I am bitter, but I don't own a gun or go to church (Athiest), I use my vote to clearly state what I want in my politicians, and one of the one of the things I do not want is the extreme left wing of my party running rough-shot over the rest of the nation. We saw what happens when an extremist gets into the white house (George W Bush is the extreme right of the republican party), and I think I've had enough of that extremist thing. I'll take good old Senator McCain, the centrist that reaches across the isle to Democrats, not Obama that has the idea that unity is only his type of unity.

Posted by: Kuilor | May 9, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA = UNELECTABLE
OBAMA = UNELECTABLE
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I see that you buy into the canard that if you tell a lie enough times people will eventually think it is the truth.

The truth of the matter is Daffy Duck could beat John McCain.

Fortunately, though, we have a quality candidate who will, if he lives long enough, make a great President. But I fear for his life. Reading some of the posts here I fear that one of these people might just think they were doing their patriotic duty by taking Obama out.

Posted by: Kate Henry | May 9, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Didn't Thelma & Louise DIE at the end of that movie?

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

I wonder why everyone is buying into the notion that those "white working class voters" will vote for Hillary and not vote for Obama. Are you saying that they are all a bunch of bigots and will therefore vote for McCain.
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Obama called us bigots. The great bonehead spoke. Twice he has done that. In his great, BS cover my butt, race speech and the bitter speech in SF Cal. I won't forget.
Obaama said we were a bunch of bigots. We think he is a bonehead idiot. Nuff said.

Posted by: Chief | May 9, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Obama has done nothing but beat a very beatable candidate by saying nothing relevant while focusing on liberal elitists and the young and dumb college student know-it-alls. Sorry Osama, this is the real world, not American Idol. You're going to lose and lose bad. You will be forever known as the biggest flash-in-the-pan the world has ever known. Do us all a favor and shout your wife up-no one wants here constant liberal whinning!!

Posted by: Toxic Avenger | May 9, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

When Obama grants amnesty to 35 million illegal aliens by executive order, makes Spanish the official language of America, raises taxes 20 percent on Americans who make more than $70K per year to pay for illegal alien benefits and the conversion of Ameirca into Mexico, then outlaws our second amendment rights with which to fight the Mexican Government takeover, America will be forced to think twice, too late, about Obama's CHANGE message.

Posted by: Tom Jefferson | May 9, 2008 2:59 PM
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You're really off your rocker, aren't you?

Posted by: Steve | May 9, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

LABC:

Nope, it's right next to the vacant lot that was sold by Tony Rezko which has nothing whatsoever to do with Obama's house ; )

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

President Obama visited his old friend Hillary in the hospital for sick adults. They had to pump her stomach to remove the paint she had ingested earlier that day.

Obama bought with him one of those singing cards. Upon entering her hospital room he opened the card, and Hillary smiled. Her teeth, however, were stained from the paint, and it scared the president.

Posted by: I'm writing children's stories now | May 9, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

After reading all of the posts from the Hillary fans, with all of the threats about voting for McCain and how she's the only one who can beat McCain, I just have one thing to say-- Yawn. She beat herself in the race against Obama why would she be any different with McCain.

Please go away.


Posted by: james - Los Angeles | May 9, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

From the NYT --

NOTABLE in the Indiana and North Carolina primary results and in many recent polls are signs of a change in the gender weather: white men are warming to Hillary Clinton -- at least enough to vote for her. It's no small shift. These men have historically been her fiercest antagonists. Their conversion may point less to a new kind of male voter than to a new kind of female vote-getter.

Pundits have been quick to attribute the erosion in Barack Obama's white male support to a newfound racism. What they have failed to consider is the degree to which white male voters witnessing Senator Clinton's metamorphosis are being forced to rethink precepts they've long held about women in American politics.

For years, the prevailing theory has been that white men are often uneasy with female politicians because they can't abide strong women. But if that's so, why haven't they deserted Senator Clinton? More particularly, why haven't they deserted her as she has become ever more pugnacious in her campaign?

Maybe the white male electorate just can't abide strong women whom they suspect of being of a certain sort. To adopt a particularly lamentable white male construct, the sports metaphor, political strength comes in two varieties: the power of the umpire, who controls the game by application of the rules but who never gets hit; and the power of the participant, who has no rules except to hit hard, not complain, bounce back and endeavor to prevail in the end.

For virtually all of American political history, the strong female contestant has been cast not as the player but the rules keeper, the purse-lipped killjoy who passes strait-laced judgment on feral boy fun. The animosity toward the rules keeper is fueled by the suspicion that she (and in American life, the regulator is inevitably coded feminine, whatever his or her sex) is the agent of people so privileged that they don't need to fight, people who can dominate more decisively when the rules are decorous. American political misogyny is inflamed by anger at this clucking overclass: who are they to do battle by imposing rectitude instead of by actually doing battle?

The specter of the prissy hall monitor is, in part, the legacy of the great female reformers of Victorian America. In fact, these women were the opposite of fainting flowers. Susan B. Anthony barely flinched in the face of epithets, hurled eggs and death threats. Carry A. Nation swung an ax. Yet they were regarded by men as the regulators outside the game. Indeed, many 19th-century female reformers defined themselves that way -- as reluctant trespassers in the public sphere who had left the domestic circle only to fulfill their duty as the morally superior sex, housekeepers scouring away a nation's vice.

While the populace might concede the merits of the female reformers' cause, it found them repellent on a more glandular level. In that visceral subbasement of the national imagination -- the one that underlies all the blood-and-guts sports imagery our culture holds so dear -- the laurels go to the slugger who ignores the censors, the outrider who navigates the frontier without a chaperone.

Certainly through the many early primaries, Hillary Clinton was often defined by these old standards, and judged harshly. She was forever the entitled chaperone. But that was then. As Thelma, the housewife turned renegade, says to her friend in "Thelma & Louise" as the two women flee the law through the American West, "Something's crossed over in me."

Senator Clinton might well say the same. In the final stretch of the primary season, she seems to have stepped across an unstated gender divide, transforming herself from referee to contender.

What's more, she seems to have taken to her new role with a Thelma-like relish. We are witnessing a female competitor delighting in the undomesticated fray. Her new no-holds-barred pugnacity and gleeful perseverance have revamped her image in the eyes of begrudging white male voters, who previously saw her as the sanctioning "sivilizer," a political Aunt Polly whose goody-goody directives made them want to head for the hills.

It's the unforeseen precedent of an unprecedented candidacy: our first major female presidential candidate isn't doing what men always accuse women of doing. She's not summoning the rules committee over every infraction. (Her attempt to rewrite the rules for Michigan and Florida are less a timeout than rough play.) Not once has she demanded that the umpire stop the fight. Indeed, she's asking for more unregulated action, proposing a debate with no press-corps intermediaries.

If anyone has been guarding the rules this election, it's been the press, which has been primly thumbing the pages of Queensberry and scolding her for being "ruthless" and "nasty," a "brawler" who fights "dirty."

But while the commentators have been tut-tutting, Senator Clinton has been converting white males, assuring them that she's come into their tavern not to smash the bottles, but to join the brawl.

Deep in the American grain, particularly in the grain of white male working-class voters, that is the more trusted archetype. Whether Senator Clinton's pugilism has elevated the current race for the nomination is debatable. But the strategy has certainly remade the political world for future female politicians, who may now cast off the assumption that when the going gets tough, the tough girl will resort to unilateral rectitude. When a woman does ascend through the glass ceiling into the White House, it will be, in part, because of the race of 2008, when Hillary Clinton broke through the glass floor and got down with the boys.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Ok, I am not a Democrat nor a Republican. I am just independent. Yet, I would like to know from one of your comments. What is the relevance of Barack Obama lives in the Southside of Chicago has to do with his ablity/inability to lead the country? So, he is not living in suburbia and likes living in an urban area. So, what?


As for his use of drugs. So he used drugs when he was a teenager. Remember, the word "teenager". George W. Bush was an alcoholic when he was older like in his 20's. So, is it tolerable to let an alcoholic in his 20's as not somewhat who experimented with drugs at may be 15 or 16 years old?

As for voters who want to vote for McCain; Is it fair to say ask that after 8 years with Bush which he ran the country to the ground. Lost respect in the world, the Europeans are using the dollar as toilet paper, we have a $9.5 trillion debt (almost one third of the debt is financed by China) , and after 5 or 6 years Osama Bin Laden has not been found while all of the troops are on the wrong country (Iraq). After a reporter asked about the opposition of the American public against the war. While VP Cheney just replied; So?

I would like to know what make them think that by voting for McCain, things will be positively different?

I am just a "naive" voter who wants to know who to vote this November.


I would like to know, enlighten me.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Nice to know the "people" really don't count as much as the media does, and the money they are probably paid behind closed doors to give Obama biased coverage. I guess he has learned something about being a politician, if you can't win it, buy it. He's not about change, wake up people. His speech writers are more about change than he is.

Posted by: fobamaman | May 9, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA IS WAY TOO SMART AND WAY TOO YOUNG FOR MCCAIN. MCCAIN'S A DINOSAURS LOSING HIS BERING EVERY SINGLE DAY

Posted by: sOCRATES | May 9, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Ok, so truth is I was never a Marine (I'm actually a college student working for the Obama campaign so I can get laid - it's working so far) and everything I said is a complete fabrication but VOTE FOR OBAMA!!

Posted by: CitizenAJ | May 9, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

I say unto the Democrats:

Thou shalt maketh Hillary Queen of the KKK of A!

Then thou shalt be Fruits, in Multiples!

Posted by: ALMIGHTY -The ;-) | May 9, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Bill:

Shhhhh!!! Don't you know that "If you examine the coalition of folks that he has brought together, i.e., blacks, whites, young, not so young, Independents, and Republicans (Operation Chaos not withstanding), there is no way that you can reasonably conclude that he is less, not more likely to do well as a candidate in November"?!

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Gosh this article is disgusting.
This uber-praise of Obama is embarrassing from the Press. How can you elect a candidate who refuses to talk to the Press? Going on The Colbert Report is NOT press.

He is SO untested- he will be destroyed in the General Election. America likes its war heros and bi-partisan patriots. It has no time for elitist who mock them in private San Fran events and talk about arugula prices.

Hillary was such a better candidate- and the only one who could pose a threat to McCain. Don't get me wrong- I'm glad the dems chose Obama. Who wouldn't want an easier fight?

The way the Dems turned their backs on Hillary is a disgrace. The Clintons were the royal family of the party and you threw them under a bus. Your party is self destructing.

Posted by: RightPOV | May 9, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Too bad so many are so blind to the fact he won't win the general election. He hasn't won any crucial swing or red states, and is incapable of winning the general election without them. Not to mention, I am sure that many in Florida and Michigan are none too happy either that he didn't bother to pull for them and make their votes count during primaries--and without them, kiss it goodbye Obama. We may as well get settled in for 4 more years of torture at the hands of another inept Republican. Stupid.

Posted by: fobamaman | May 9, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Well, LABC, if you think there's any chance that Barack HUSSEIN Obama wins Florida in November, I've got a bridge to sell you ...

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 4:55 PM

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is it by the swamp land that McCain did some business for? Cause that sounds so dreamy and maverick of him...

have you seen the economy in Florida these days? Are you so sure that come November, McCain isn't fighting for his life down there as well?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

It has been well debated whether the media is fair in any coverage. It would be silly to ignore it is about ratings.

So are you really a robot and have no control utimately.

According to Generation Next, probably not.Here is a cartoon showing what they think.
http://mynonprofitwebsite.com/blog/2008/05/09/emo-social-responsibility/

Posted by: robert guinto | May 9, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

The nurse said that as long as I keep hitting my head against the wall I'll have to wear the helmet. I like to drink my pee. GO OBAMA!

Posted by: I'm writing children's stories now | May 9, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

I am a former Marine. No, it does not make me an expert in military affairs but I can say as a member of the world's finest fighting force, I know Senator Obama will make a fine Commander-in-Chief. He thinks things through and he listens and illicits others input. Wisdom comes from the counsel of many - Book of James. I think America is ready for a new "experience", the right experience. A President that understands that this government is for the people, by the people. That my fellow Americans is what separates him from the other candidates. Mike Huckabee was a close second but the others were off in the distance. They started to get it though as they listened to Senator Obama and the support he gained over the months. The best leaders are the ones who are compassionate, and Senator Obama is comapassionate about the American people.

Posted by: CitizenAJ | May 9, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

For all you Clintonistas,
if Madame Clinton wanted to be the "Nominee " She should have won more Primariries and Caucauses"
The Last time I checked Obama won 31, she won 15.
She is farther behind now than before she won PA.
Who knows if there was not the Republican crossover she may have lost Indiana as well.
The Democratic Party better wake up and bring a reasonable conclusion to this issue.
If Obama is denied the Nomination there will be an INSURRECTION. Clinton talks about the "Working Class Blue Collar White Voters". Well It's an established fact that the Democratic Party cannot win SQUATwithout a massive Black Voter turnout.. If the Party gives her the nonination we will be looking at a Mccain Presidency.
Back in the seventies James Brown the Godfather of Soul made a record called "The Big Pay Back"
If the Party robs Barack of this nomination which he has earned by virtue of his victories...get ready for the Big Payback.

Posted by: Carprin | May 9, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Sometimes when no one is looking I put my hands down my pants and then smell my fingers. GO OBAMA!

Posted by: I'm writing children's stories now | May 9, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Why is the Washington Post doing a "full court press" to get Hillary to drop out?

Because she's leading by 40 points in West Virgina!!!!

What is the Obama Campaign promising the Washington Post in exchange for its ethics, its honor, and its soul?

What Would Katherine Graham Do????

What would she feel about what has become to her beloved newspaper, Dan???

What has happened to the Dan Balz we all knew, admired, and respected???

Have you no shame, sir?

At long last have you no shame???

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how many delegates does WVA have? Oh wait, I know this one -not enough!

Posted by: theartistformerlyknownassvreader - l loves me some Clinton - SOB!!! | May 9, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

I like to make things out of popscicle sticks. And I paint them all kinds of colors. Sometimes I drink the paint and the men in white coats give me medicine so I can sleep.

Posted by: I'm writing children's stories now | May 9, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Dan: What a short memory you have. Obama hasn"t been able to get the Hispanic vote either. Hispanics gave Clinton her popular vote wins in Texas and California. White working class voters gave her Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Indiana. If this was a general election instead of a Democratic primary where all the rules favored Obama, Clinton would already have won. In a winner take all general election, Obama probably can"t beat even a weak candidate like McCain. Too bad for the Democrats and the country. Democrats could have had it all with a Clinton-Obama ticket. Now, we get McCain, stay in a war and give corporations even more control over our lives. Obama supporters enjoy your victory.

Posted by: Bill | May 9, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Well, it's official...Hillary is out for the VP spot. Obama said that competence, integrity, and independence were his three qualifications for hiring. She fails on 2 out of 3.

Posted by: LW | May 9, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Well, LABC, if you think there's any chance that Barack HUSSEIN Obama wins Florida in November, I've got a bridge to sell you ...

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Nothing will change no matter who is President. Those who control this country are not elected, and until the American People realize that, nothing will change. Now go back and watch American Idol and forget I said anything.

Posted by: Anthony | May 9, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Why is the Washington Post doing a "full court press" to get Hillary to drop out?

Because she's leading by 40 points in West Virgina!!!!

What is the Obama Campaign promising the Washington Post in exchange for its ethics, its honor, and its soul?

What Would Katherine Graham Do????

What would she feel about what has become to her beloved newspaper, Dan???

What has happened to the Dan Balz we all knew, admired, and respected???

Have you no shame, sir?

At long last have you no shame???

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

President Obama took pity on the old man and offered a ride in the president's limousine. While riding down Pennsylvania Avenue, the old man pulled out some pictures and started reminiscing about his old days when his family had a butler that looked just like the president.

The president started to reach for the ejector button, but decided he was too old for such a jolt. He instead opended the door and kicked him out as the car rounded 15th Street.

Posted by: I'm writing children's stories now | May 9, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

I am White, Working Class and I am voting Obama!

I believe that the DNC is keeping Hillary Clinton in the race to drive up Democratic voter rolls in the remaining states.

I always liked the Clinton's but felt this election should truly be about changing it up in Washington. This country should not be run by the same folks over and over and certainly not by two families for a quarter of a century.

Hillary should bow out now and prepare to run for Governor of NY.

Posted by: pfondiller | May 9, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Dr. Chuck:

Yes, we can "reasonably conclude" Barack HUSSEIN Obama would do worse in November --she can win Florida and he can't -- there's also no denying that McCain is currently AHEAD of Obama in head-to-head State polling.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/May09.html

And, McCain would LOSE to Clinton (if the vote was held today).

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Clinton/Maps/May09.html

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 4:36 PM

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As bad as your your forfeit football analogy. You rely on some poll taken now to make your "reasonable conclusion" in November. I don't where you retired from, but I bet somewhere a 5th grader doesn't have to strain his neck anymore to look at the board cause the guy in front of him is too tall.

Posted by: LABC | May 9, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

A little off-topic, but...
Does it make any sense to have newer comments at the top, and then read down in reverse order? The only way to make sense of arguments and responses is to start at the bottom, which is the opposite of how I was taught read English...

Just a suggestion to the webmaster.

Posted by: Wil | May 9, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

"Obama supporters, who are supposedly intelligent, are as dumb as fence posts.

Its clear that none of you have a clue about what being commander in chief means.

Its a waste of time to try to have a discussion with any of you.

You're too stupid to do anything but learn things the hard way."
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Oh yes, YOU, Mr. Anonymous, know what it takes to be Commander in Chief. Please, pretty please, will you be my Mr. President? You're so smart. And I just love the way you dismiss massive swaths of the electorate. Very presidential.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Obama loses to McCain in November. Hillary might have been able to beat McCain but I don't see Obama doing so.

Posted by: Boris86 | May 9, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

The nod to All members with serious thought.

United '08

Let the majority be UNITED for the good. There's no greater time than Now. Supporters, stand ready. Others, join the team and together, help drive this country Forward! We can do it. We most certainly can!

Posted by: Obama2008 | May 9, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone really think that Barack will get us out of Iraq?

I don't think so.

I don't think Hillary will either.

McCain won't.

But maybe Barack can make some cuts, same with Hillary.

I'll start making bets on the excuses.

1. "Circumstances have changed since I ran for office".
2. "While I said we'd start withdrawing when I took office, I didn't say complete withdrawal."
3. "We cannot let Iran take Iraq."
4. "We cannot let the instability with Iraq hurt the stability of their neighbors"
5. "All of the above".

Posted by: Comment | May 9, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Brad K:

So, wait, NOW the Super Delegate count is an important gauge in determining who the Democratic nominee should be?!

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Ghost of FDR | May 9, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Greta,

He destroyed Hillary in VA, he obviously connected with the vast majority of them.

Posted by: JakeDaloser | May 9, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Honorable Dr. Phan: I respectfully disagree with you. As a wise Asian grandmother said...

NO TICKEE...NO WASHEE!!

Posted by: Dr. Fu Man Choo Choo - former colleague of Dr. Phan | May 9, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Between Hillary and Obama, I would vote for whoever wins the nomination (which, as it has seemed to me since Feb, is Obama). Both are strong leaders, both are intelligent people, and both are more or less the same when it comes to policy. To be honest, however, I prefer the way Obama goes about approaching issues better than the way Hillary does it. Still, I wouldn't mind having either of them in charge.

I don't really have a problem with McCain on a personal level, I just don't agree with many of his opinions. That, and as many folks have pointed out, I don't think he is the same guy he was back in 2000. Had I been old enough to vote (24 now) back in 2000 I would likely have voted for him (especially considering his competition on both sides of the aisle), but I certainly wouldn't do that at this point.

Posted by: Adam in Maryland | May 9, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Billy Clint:

I wouldn't vote for Hillary in a million years.

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

As Barack Obama concluded his inauguration speech at the steps of the US Capital, a faint cry could be heard coming from the window near the Senate chambers.

"Get off my lawn!," cried old man McCain.

Posted by: I'm writing children's stories now | May 9, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

MMMM....aww screw all this..lets just wait and see an Obama McCain debate!!

That'll be CLASSIC..can't wait.

Posted by: Aisha | May 9, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Brendan:

Probably Jesus would not be citing polling data -- you are right about that -- either 2000 years ago or when He returns in Glory. In the meantime, however, I am not aware of any Biblical prohibition to citing polling data. You've got something against Zogby?

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Poor JakeD, he wont be satisfied until Hillary is crowned Queen of the US of A. Maybe he hopes to be her Monica Lewinski.

Posted by: Billy Clint | May 9, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Dear clinton supporters:

Read Obama's policy positions posted on his website.

Then vote for him.

Unless you really want $12 billion a MONTH going to Iraq for four more years, want a woman's choice outlawed in America, and think big oil should be left to pick out pockets. If you don't believe in wind and solar power and think that burning coal is safe for the environment and your children's lungs. If you think the old-boy club should still be running America like they handled hurricane Katrina and Abu Garabe, the run-up to the war and lies inserted into the State of the Union Speech and if you want more supreme court justices like Alito, Roberts, and Thomas...

Then you should vote McCain.

Only hypocrites will vote for McCain after having cast a ballot for Hillary.

Obama for President in '08!

Posted by: JBE | May 9, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Superdelegate score so far today:
Obama +8
Clinton net 0 (-1, +1)

According to ABC News and the NY Times, Obama now leads in superdelegates for the first time ever in this campaign, as the unity bandwagon gains momentum. That hissing sound you hear is the air going out of the last vestiges of a rationale for the Clinton campaign to continue. No way does she get the 70% to 75% of remaining superdelegates she'd need to snatch the nomination from Obama. My guess is she drops out Wednesday morning after a big but meaningless victory in the West Virginia primary.

Posted by: Brad K | May 9, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Dr. Chuck:

Yes, we can "reasonably conclude" Barack HUSSEIN Obama would do worse in November --she can win Florida and he can't -- there's also no denying that McCain is currently AHEAD of Obama in head-to-head State polling.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/May09.html

And, McCain would LOSE to Clinton (if the vote was held today).

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Clinton/Maps/May09.html

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

MMMM....aww screw all this..lets just wait and see an Obama McCain debate!!

That'll be CLASSIC..can't wait.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Juan Stem:

Is that worse than "I did not have spiritual relations with that man, Rev. Wright"?

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 4:26 PM

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is worst then WMD's in Iraq? - see, one makes a person an adulterer, another an embarassed association, and the last has killed over 4,000 soldiers and 100,000 + Iraqis.
perspective, JakeD...perspective...

Posted by: Wanted:fellow kool-aid drinker to share space in McCain's bowels for the duration of election | May 9, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Those democrats that claim will not vote for Obama if he wins the nomination are NOT obligated to vote for him. True democrats will make sure that a democrat goes to the oval office next year. The most stupid thing to do is deny Obama the nomination because Clinton supporters will not vote for him. That is ridiculous! Let those supporters go vote for whomever they want to vote for, it's their choice. Truth of the matter is that either Obama or Clinton can make a good President. Unfortunately, both can't be nominated at the same time. One person has to win and in this case Obama has the advantage. A true democrat will understand this simple fact and vote for a democrat in November.

Posted by: BuzzEd | May 9, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

A Farewell to Hillary

Will West Virginia make a difference?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=2372

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Posted by: DBlake, Austin TX | May 9, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

JakeD---

You know something, your posts are the most pathetic and stupid of all those I have seen on the internet.

You need to ask yourself "What would Jesus have done?" and get on your hands and knees and pray.

Posted by: Brendan | May 9, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

People:
If you want another republican as president, vote for Obama, because Mc. Cain will defeat Obama, Mc. Cain is a war hero and has 20 years of experience as senator vs. Obama 1 and half year senator and words and promises with nothing to back these up.
Obama weaknesses will be in the daylight if he becomes the democrat nominee- lack of experiences-bad judgment(Rev.Wright) and did his wife said one time"I used to hate America until ...."
Promises are nice , but America is not ready for an African American president yet!!!

Dr. Hung H. Phan, President
Asian American Concerned Citizens League

Posted by: Dr. Hung H. Phan | May 9, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Obama's whole campaign can be summed up in the question that is what he is asking voters --

"Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes?"

Obama's record is the complete opposite of his claims.

If you believe his words, you're for him.

If you believe your own eyes, you'd never vote for him in a million years...

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Those democrats that claim will not vote for Obama if he wins the nomination are NOT obligated to vote for him. True democrats will make sure that a democrat goes to the oval office next year. The most stupid thing to do is deny Obama the nomination because Clinton supporters will not vote for him. That is ridiculous! Let those supporters go vote for whomever they want to vote for, it's their choice. Truth of the matter is that either Obama or Clinton can make a good President. Unfortunately, both can't be nominated at the same time. One person has to win and in this case Obama has the advantage. A true democrat will understand this simple fact and vote for a democrat in November.

Posted by: BuzzEd | May 9, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Back in the day, I was a huge Clinton supporter (by the way, back in the day was like last year), today that has changed. Clearly, Obama has demonstrated that he can do well in the general election. If you examine the coalition of folks that he has brought together, i.e., blacks, whites, young, not so young, Independents, and Republicans (Operation Chaos not withstanding), there is no way that you can reasonably conclude that he is less, not more likely to do well as a candidate in November.


Also, contrary to political spin, the base is uber-important. Given Hillary's early support of the Iraq war, this is an achilles heel for her. White rural Republicans will not vote for a D in November. Period. We will need overwhelming support from our base. Obama has proven that he can not only rally the base, but he can reach beyond it, which is not too shabby for a general.


If you visit my website: http://www.drchuckspeaks.com/ you will see that I have been a huge supporter of Bill and Hillary, ergo, this is not some knee jerk reaction from a person swept up in Obamerica. I carefully considered the facts.


Moreover, Hillary will be able to mobilize the GOP base like never before. The disdain they have for the Clintons is legendary and, more importantly, politically damaging for Democrats. Also, when one considers the number of folks who are voting for the first time, in greater numbers than we've seen in recent memory, that is largely attributable to Obama. We all know this. Let me be clear -- It's not that Hillary is a bad person or a bad candidate. It's that she's not the right presidential candidate for the Democratic party at this time. She must concede. The outstanding superdelegates who have not committed can end this. They should end this. This intraparty bickering cannot continue. We are now hurting the likely candidate and the party for November.


So, any superdelegate who hangs on beyond May, knowing this reality, is a coward!

Posted by: Dr. Chuck | May 9, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

If you want to talk about incompetence, Hillary couldn't even run her own campaign. That being true, how in the world could you expect her to run the country?

Nice try though.

Posted by: roxlaw | May 9, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

svreader, are you still mad that you lost the fifth grade composition contest?

Once upon a time there was a lonely boy,
Mumurmemurme memurmemur
memururururmemur
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mem me me
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... and that's why Hillary is so awesome!
The End
by svreader

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Kate Henry makes an astute point. In retrospect, we all loved Kennedy but he was a disaster. I fear Obama may be the same.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Svreader has seen the writing on the wall. Now s/he/it isn't signing posts. Clearly the last throws of the HRC campaign have become a reality and s/he/it is beginning to distance him/her/itself from the candidate and his/her/its own opinions.

Posted by: ding-dong-the-witch-is-dead | May 9, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

iowatreasures, what exactly is it you have against Obama?

I'll go first and tell you what I have against Hillary. On policy, at least what I can piece together from what she's done versus what she's said, I'd say she's fine. Her Iraq vote isn't an issue with me. Let's face it, Shrub fooled almost everyone with his falsified evidence of WMD, so I don't hold it against her that she went for it too.

However, her "she/he who dies with the most toys wins" methods have turned me off. I always suspected this was the case with her disposition, now this campaign has proven it. Thus with me leadership and Obama's bottom up view of coalition building versus Hillary's top down view is a real issue. The next President must not just KNOW the solutions. The next President must be able to ENACT those solutions. We don't have time for games.

Why hasn't the press been on Hillary's statement to her husband after the 94 elections when she told him "$crew 'em," You don't owe them a thing, Bill. They're doing nothing for you." She was talking about working class Southerners - you know, the kind that Kentucky and West Virginia are full of.

So I guess in a HRC administration we would be working for her, not vice versa. And I guess you are OK with that. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Posted by: calvinnme | May 9, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Obama supporters, who are supposedly intelligent, are as dumb as fence posts.

Its clear that none of you have a clue about what being commander in chief means.

Its a waste of time to try to have a discussion with any of you.

You're too stupid to do anything but learn things the hard way.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

God, I just read some of the posts here. If this is what the race for the presidency is going to be like, I think I am going into a closet and not coming out until it's over.

What have we become?

Posted by: Kate Henry | May 9, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

kenonwenu:

Are you saying that NO Obama supporter will vote for McCain if Hillary somehow manages to steal the nomination?

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

So Kennedy says unlikely that Obama will pick Clinton for a running mate. How does he expect to win. At least a third of her supporters are going to vote for McCain. Catholics, Jews, seniors and white middle-class will vote for McCain. Looks like the idiot Democrats and their left-wing base are going to nominate a candidate in line with McGovern, Dukakis, Mondale and Kerry. A loser and that is what Obama is.

Posted by: Political Watchdog | May 9, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Anon asks:
"Obama's so unqualified that people will look back at this election and say 'what were people thinking'"?

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You'll have to stick your head up JakeD's rear end to ask him what he's thinking.

Posted by: Why do you ask, Two Dogs? | May 9, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

"His policy proposals make him appear to be an orthodox liberal, while his message is unity and reaching across party lines. Those don't easily fit together and Obama will have to articulate more fully why they are not in conflict with one another." Valid issue to raise, and I think he'd be smart to start sounding some theme of fiscal sanity, even if there are ample unmet needs, worsened by Bush's fiscal buffoonery and his War. Government has been demonized, and we saw in Katrina how the idiots and ideologues proved uninterested in actually doing anything, so, as E.J. Dionne said, proving, "Hey, see, government stinks!" Edwards' message of poverty was compelling, but it's the same dynamic that plays out even on the state level: budget "cuts" versus taxes. So, the formula goes, "tax-and-spend." Obama should promise, and deliver, a return to responsible stewardship of the United States government and its treasury, for our good and for future generations. One of the worst legacies of Bush was his betrayal of actual fiscal conservatism. Why can't Obama try to reach out to those on both sides of the aisle who are actually interested in restoring some hope of fiscal solvency while also making sure that what resources we do have available, are wisely and prudently spent? In my mind, Bill Clinton and Robert Rubin deserve credit for the fiscal management of a kind we have not seen since. Obama would do well to work with people like Rubin.

Posted by: Tom | May 9, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Aisha:

No one is going to call you crazy (Obama will, no doubt, get millions of votes : )

Juan Stem:

Is that worse than "I did not have spiritual relations with that man, Rev. Wright"?

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

I am baffled when I hear people suggest the Obama campaign is a personality cult.

People don't vote for Obama because he's special, they vote for him because he's normal. He's not freakishly twisted or evil or megalomaniacal or crazy like Bush and Cheney, or paranoid, angry and bent like McCain, whose entire campaign is a giant lobbying and influence-peddling operation sold with a promise of "other wars"
( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZCISY40qns ).

The personality cult, if there is one, is the hardcore of Amazons, Reagan Democrats, etc around Hillary who are now threatening to vote McCain. You know, the "Hillary is just so strong and wonderful" types. By showing that you don't care about McCain's DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED POLICIES, you prove it's all about personality for you.

I believe most Hillary supporters who say they'll vote McCain will come back, except of course a small minority who really don't like Blacks.

The women will come back, if only because McCain is a proven, pathological woman-hater. At least, he definitely hates women who are taller than him, like his wife.

The Reagan Democrats might not all come back, but then they defect to the GOP in every election. These are the Democratic component of Bush's 71% approval in April 2003. The Democrats who wanted to invade Iraq. They're closet Republicans anyway, that's why they're called Reagan Democrats (aka Bush Democrats aka McCain Democrats).

This is the group of Americans that constantly votes against its interests when the right-wing dogwhistle sounds. If it's not flagpins and preachers, it's gay marriage or windsurfing or something.

This is the Homer Simpson vote, which slaps its forehead and says "Doh!" for the past eight years, then in the next episode does the same dumb thing again.

Posted by: kenonwenu | May 9, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Then there is the weakness that has been exposed throughout the campaign against Clinton, which is his difficulty corralling the votes of white, working class voters.
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I wonder why everyone is buying into the notion that those "white working class voters" will vote for Hillary and not vote for Obama. Are you saying that they are all a bunch of bigots and will therefore vote for McCain.

I don't think that will happen. They know that voting for a Republican will do nothing but get them more of the same for the next four years. They know that only a Democrat has a chance in hell of pulling this country out of the mess that the Republicans have made of it.

Even it they have some racist tendencies, I believe most of these voters are going to vote for the person who can best help them improve the quality of their lives and that candidate is Barack Obama.

Posted by: Kate Henry | May 9, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Its astounding how immature and childish Obama's supporters are.

This isn't a game.

The president has control of our military.

The president has the nuclear launch codes.

We all love JFK, but he made some very dangerous mistakes that almost got us all killed.

Remember the "Cuban Missile Crisis?"

What they didn't teach you in school is that JFK caused it by putting missiles in Turkey and by taking the coward's way out at the Bay of Pigs.

Those two events led the Soviets to put missiles in Cuba.

Unknown to us, they had nuclear torpedos on their submarines.

We came within inches of nuclear war.

Obama's a charming fellow.

He also doesn't have a clue about defense issues.

He's also a coward, a wimp, and can't think on his feet or under pressure.

We're not going to vote for him because we're not going to risk terrorist attacks and nuclear war.

By appearing weak, you invite attack.

History teaches us that.

This is much bigger than a party loyalty issue.

This isn't a high-school football game.

We're not electing a prom king.

Obama's so unqualified that people will look back at this election and say "what were people thinking"

Obama may be able to get the Democratic nomination.

Obama will never be President.

If he does get elected, kiss your rear end goodbye.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

JakeD,

Do you know svreader? If not, you should because you both espouse the same garbage.

Posted by: roxlaw | May 9, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

KILL EVERYONE IN MY WAY!

-actually, joking aside, I have had people killed that were in my way...Do some research and you will find over 60 people that died before they could throw a wrench into me and my Husband's plans.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton | May 9, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

It is interesting that it is the uneducated that support Clinton.

I thought that Elite was a complimentary term.

Character Check: cigar in Lewinski, ejaculate on the dress, I did not have sexual relations with that woman...sorta sets the moral tone for the Clintons.

Posted by: Juan Stem | May 9, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

JakeD writes:

"Hey, I've got a Good Idea for an End Game!!Let's all take turns putting objects into my rear end, and see if I can guess what it is, OK?

I'm pretty good at this, so BE CREATIVE...NO cucumbers or carrots, give me something to THINK about, OK?"

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Jake, you're setting us up. Anyone who regularly reads your comments knows that you would have an up close and personal visual inspection of anything inserted into your rectum.

Posted by: Why do you ask, Two Dogs? | May 9, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

I'll vote for Nader before Obambi. Dems will lose.

Posted by: Robin | May 9, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

KILL WHITEY!!!

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama | May 9, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: T | May 9, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

I will do a victory dance on the National Mall in full dress tonight in honor of the great Barack Obama. He trounced the white woman fair and square. Watch for me on the mall, and later in the DC cellblock. Bail me out for god's sake!

Posted by: Chief Two Dogs | May 9, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

You know, I find it very amusing the race has unfolded. The fact of the matter is that if it were John Edwards who was about to win the nomination there would be no issues. I know you all are tired of the race card...but when there is a candidate you have managed to out organize, out spend and simply out wit Hillary Clinton there is something to be said about that. Hillary is trying to appeal to white working class voters who won't vote for Obama 1. because he's black (yea im saying it!) 2. Rev Wright (btw those who are going to vote Mc Cain......watch out he has his own bigot supporters/ advisors 3. People don't know enough about him. LOL. Hillary and Barack are virtually identical in policy. So go ahead vote McCain because your world view is held hostage by ignorance. You think racism is the issue? No Corporatism is the issue ..and you don't trust Obama? But you will vote McBush who will surely not be looking out for the "Blue Collar" voters as you have been so eloquently call. You want to find out who Hillary and who she is do some research about her relationship with Peter Paul. That was the deal breaker for me.

I respect Hillary for not backing down that is one of character strengths, but your too selfish lady. Why try and add to the racial divide? I'm black I loved the Clintons...but you guys have clearly gone crazy.

Anyway all is well in the land of Obamamania....I know there is not a thing in this world that would let me vote for McCain. But please understand this is so much bigger than your racial apprehension, you're un warranted paranoia ..for Christ sakes you people voted Bush into office.

Im voting for Obama if that makes me crazy I will gladly take the title.

Posted by: Aisha | May 9, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Dare we dream?

We must.

If we lose this window of opportunity to make the changes needed to return balance to America, it will be lost forever.

Time to work hard, conserve, and share.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Are the sodomy jokes supposed to make me STOP posting?

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

The Super Delegate reservoir is starting to crack open -- todays (so far:

Undeclared for Clinton = 1

Undeclared for Obama = 7

Switch from Clinton to Obama = 1

Net for Clinton =0

Net for Obama = 8


Posted by: ScrewABunch of FlagPins | May 9, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Of course Obama is African American. His mother was an American, and his father was from Kenya.

Posted by: Patrick | May 9, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Nice try FAKE Jake ;)

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Badmouthing one's opponent obviously didn't work for the Clintons. As columnist Ellen Goodman said ten years ago, the Clintons are like a case of food poisoning. You only need to wait till nature flushes it out.

Obama on the other hand is playing for keeps. Mrs. Clinton showed him in which areas he needs help. He must assemble strong support in defence (Sam Nunn?) and in economics (Chris Dodd?), plus perhaps a faithful old friend like Tom Daschle for VP, if he wants to stand up to McCain's campaign.

Posted by: bodo | May 9, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Hey, I've got a Good Idea for an End Game!!
Let's all take turns putting objects into my rear end, and see if
I can guess what it is, OK?

I'm pretty good at this, so BE CREATIVE...NO cucumbers or carrots, give me something to THINK about, OK?

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Why is Obama seen as African American when he is Half White? Why is Tiger seen as African American when he is Half Thai?

Posted by: Pagan | May 9, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Go Hillary! Keep going and break like the wind!

Posted by: Mr. Bungle | May 9, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Ken4:

"Every week of bitter confrontation reduces Democratic chances in the fall."

You say that like it's a bad thing ; )

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

So many Hillary-loving Obama bashers on the boards today. Come on, people, stop acting like someone just pee'd in your cheerios and accept it: Obama is the candidate, and he needs your support.

Obama won. Hillary lost.

Get over it.

Posted by: Jabba the Butt | May 9, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Stalin would be proud of the Obama nuts.
They use every propaganda trick in the book.
People who support Clinton and plan to vote for McCain if Obama's the Democratic nominee are voting with their heads.
Obama's not qualified to be commander in chief.
His cult supporters make the rest of us feel like throwing up.
You kids don't have a clue as to the risk involved in choosing someone with so little experience because you have none of your own.
Obama will never be president.
If he does get in, kiss your rear end goodbye.
He's completely unfit and unsuited to be commander in chief.

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svreader, you think by taking the spaces out, that we don't know who you are? you are about the only one who Hates Obama like this...

WHY??? What has he done to you?

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Obama2008:

The way things are going for the Dems, it may happen THREE times (maybe even FOUR and FIVE times!!!)

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

JakeD,

If Clinton had taken a principled stand against the disqualification of Florida and Michigan when the issue first arose, I wouldn't have a problem with her pressing her case. But she went along with it at the time as did all the other candidates. She cannot go back now and try to re-write the rules.

As for electability, there are causes for concern. Obama does have weaknesses as a candidate--and so does Clinton. Going into the race with the advantages she had, this should have been a cake walk for her and she lost. She is clearly not the invincible campaigner many of her supporters make her out to be. And she has, from the beginning, had negatives running at nearly 50%. McCain, by the way, also has more than his share of liabilities.

The sheer bitterness of this comment page and all the others like it in the Times and the Post speaks for itself. The campaign has gone on long enough. Edwards could have stuck with it to the end, but he recognized the fact that the numbers weren't there for him and got out. The writing has been on the wall for Clinton since before Pennsylvania but she has fought on for a slim chance of victory as the acrimony has grown within the party. On policy issues, the two are very close--identical twinse compared to McCain. It is really time to mend fences and move on. Every week of bitter confrontation reduces Democratic chances in the fall.

It is still technically possible, as you point out, for a combination of FL and MI and superdelegates to hand it to Clinton. I have read people writing: "Black voters will get over it and rally to her even if the popular vote and pledged delegate count are ignored by the superdelegates." Read Eugene Robinson's column for an answer to that claim. Any such decision on the part of the superdelegates is going to seem like a back room deal and really drive a wedge between Democrat and Democrat.

Hillary would have made a great president. But this is no longer on the table. It really is time to move on.

Posted by: Ken4 | May 9, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

My Man, George!!!

Summed that Jonk UP!

Yeah!

Obama in the 08, beatch!

Posted by: LeftWithNoChoice | May 9, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

I do not understand why non Obama supporters play the unqualified and inexperience card against him? It's not like he is a dictator who controls everything. He will surround himself with experienced people like he already has (great campaign personnel). There is a house and a senate who also help run this country. You people are ignorant to suggest his Presidency will be run solely by himself. The combination of good judgement that he has and the good judgement to choose the right experienced people to help him run this country is all we need. I am tired of ignorant people.

Posted by: Unqualified? | May 9, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

JakeD:

No, I am JakeD. And I will keep saying the same points over and over till I get some really dumb people to vote like I want them too. And I hate babies and kittens.

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Stalin would be proud of the Obama nuts.
They use every propaganda trick in the book.
People who support Clinton and plan to vote for McCain if Obama's the Democratic nominee are voting with their heads.
Obama's not qualified to be commander in chief.
His cult supporters make the rest of us feel like throwing up.
You kids don't have a clue as to the risk involved in choosing someone with so little experience because you have none of your own.
Obama will never be president.
If he does get in, kiss your rear end goodbye.
He's completely unfit and unsuited to be commander in chief.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

With respect to McCain, I honestly do not believe that he is what this country needs this time around, not after 8 years of Bush. People, how did you let that happen?! You let it happen not once, but TWICE. I knew better before it happened. However, after his first term, people still had their blinders off, or the first four years wasn't enough to start a movement sooner. Here we are. I'm not sure how much damage we can do to this country. The thought is nearly terrifying. I respect McCain as a person. I've looked him up, and I've heard what he has to say. I've seen Obama, and I've heard what he has to say. On the issues, I prefer Obama obviously, if he's the Democratic nominee. I honestly believe Obama will do better than for the sake of this country.

Supporter and Donor '08
Great Job Candidates

Posted by: Obama2008 | May 9, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

America is a amazing Country! This is truly a great nation when an African American can become the next president! I think we don't give people enough credit, we polarize too much. I'm very sure that many low income whites would gladly vote for a change, give them a chance. Stop belittling people. This is an amazing country God bless the USA. Obama 08.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

I found out that the squiggly line knows no boundaries at the WP blogoshere!

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Posted by: SquigglyD | May 9, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Duh:

Not that it will matter to you, but for anyone else reading your post, Sen. McCain apologized for using the word "gooks" (and, in case you did not know, he was tortured as a POW in Vietnam for 5 1/2 years -- not to excuse that kind of language, but it is understandable -- I don't think he is a bigot):

http://www.asianam.org/mccain.htm

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Dear
I forgot my name but remembered my Obama lies

What about Clinton fraud case coming up she don't lies I bet she lies more then obama. So you will vote for a man who says he don't even know anything about the economy how stupid. You are clearly listening to HRC telling her supporters to vote for McCain if she don't win what a loser you are. You will put a republican in office with no experience in economy or anything else for 8 more years .

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Billary supporters....had all the mouth and nasty comments and sisterhood attacks against Obama, his wife, mother, grandmother and father. And that it's clear that their candidate has lost and her true hateful colors are being shown throughout the WORLD, you want to cry like a bunch of little girls...go somewhere and suck on a lollipop!! The grown women are taking over this show now. so all of that "I'm not voting for a Barak Obama and I'll vote for McCain..See ya, wouldn't want to be ya! Let the doorknob hit cha where the good Lord split cha!

Posted by: See ya! | May 9, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I can't belive how sad you people are.

"I vote for McCain if Obama beats Hillary."

Why dont you cry about it.
I cannot belive that so many people will vote for old man on his death bed instead of Obama. Do you realize what will happen if McCain is president?

This serisously sounds like two kids fighting over a lolly-pop...if the one kid cant have it he throws it in the mud and says "NOW NO ONE CAN HAVE IT!"

Ask yourself this, are you really going to throw all of america in the mud because your democrat didn't win the nomination?

Hillary and Obama are 99% the SAME people....The difference is Hillary wants to win the nomination the old fashion way:

lie (sniper fire)
cheat (add in michigan/florida after they are ruled out)
pander (saying obama cant win)
bribes (tax break that costs more long term)
lobbyists (took more money then any other candidate)

Posted by: T | May 9, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

"I hate Gooks. Always will."

I'm JakeD, and I approve this message.

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Low treasures and svreader cried and cried over the past three days. Now they resort to flinging poo, which is more fitting behavior for chimps at the zoo. They are the new zoo review, flinging poo at you.

Posted by: Chief Two Dogs | May 9, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

I strongly suspect that some of the proported Clinton supporters in this thread are Republican operatives, deliberatily trying to sow dischord in Democratic ranks.

I supported Hillary Clinton for years, but think that Obama is a great choice. Anyone who thinks that McCain is that much better than Bush (no one could be worse) should examine their reasoning. McCain believes in the same military and economic policies that got us where we are today.

Posted by: Gene Venable | May 9, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Re: unsigned posts

Lots of us don't sign posts on "the trail" and "the fix" because Obama supporters forge other people's handles.

Why should anyone make it even easier for Obama supporters to mislead and confuse people?


Posted by: | May 9, 2008 4:00 PM

Posted by: WillbeinbunkerwhenObamabecomespresident - SOB!! | May 9, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous at 4:00 PM:

Good point ; )

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

McCain in the membrane, McCain in the Brain!

GookHater decided on Cyprus Hill's "Insane in the Membrane" for his General Election Theme Song. Thinks it might help with "The Blacks"

I doubt it.

Posted by: Duh | May 9, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

To sum it all up "the audacity of hope" - out plays "the arrogance of entitlement".

This even outweighs experience ... because the president leads and presides ... and leaves the management to the best minds around her or him.

Good judgment does matter ... we have been living on poor judgment for 7 years ... we started off picking a fight with China ... we had a axis of evil - now China's economy roars past our own ... and we spent billions of $$ on Iraq.

Posted by: A Better America | May 9, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Nice try, FAKE JakeD ; )

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

I am a male feminist and progressive liberal and I have supported Obama his entire campaign. I really can't stand the contention that Obama voters are sexist and Hillary only lost because she is a woman. Anyone with a level head knows that the only person who is to blame for Hillary's loss is Hillary herself. Despite claiming she is the candidate with experience, she was utterly outmaneuvered by a political novice who assembled a superior team of campaign managers and organizers that propelled an almost completely UNKNOWN candidate to the democratic nomination. She ran a negative do-anything say-anything to get elected campaign that would have made Karl Rove proud.

I am sure most of you know of more than one person that openly despises Hillary Clinton, whether she merits ire or not. Like Al Gore in 2000 and to a greater extent John Kerry in 2004, many voters seem to harbor an irrational hatred for her. It's too bad because she had a lot of potential, but unfortunately she has made decisions that have made a lot of voters dislike her intensely.

It's so nice as a democratic voter to finally have a LIKABLE candidate!!

Personally, I think November will be an easy win for Obama. The pundits and pollsters who will have you believe that this will be a close race are not taking into account the massive democratic turnout and voter registration. Most Republican voters WILL NOT be motivated to vote for John McCain. And most WILL NOT be motivated to keep Obama out of the white house.

You know what convinced me Obama can do it? One of my racist redneck coworkers who has hated black people all his life spoke to me the other day of his admiration for Obama. The way he put it was, the the color of a persons skin doesn't matter if he happens to be the right person for the job. He's voted republican all his life, but he's sick and tired of his party of choice running the country into the ground. If it takes a black democrat to set the country back on track, so be it.

If Obama can inspire a biggot like my coworker to vote democratic, I don't see what's stopping him in November.

Posted by: George | May 9, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

for all of you that are questioning Barack's experience...Bush was a Governor whose legislature met twice a year...if you think experience makes a great President, we have many Governors that were terrible and at the same time, have many who had little or no experience but a great deal of judgement, integrity and BRAINS...Barack was the first african american to make Harvard Law Review in it's history...we need a President who can think and is a problem solver for the current goof has left our country with MANY problems that need solved, not least of which is to get us the hell out of an unnecessary war that is costing us (or should I say our children)$12B a month. You all need to look very hard at how Barack with his vision and leadership skills can begin to get us out of this terrible mess...McSame will be 4 or 8 more years of Bushy politics and our country can't wait 8 more years of even 4 more years...the country is thirsty for change in the direction that supports working families and not narrow corporate interests. Barack could have not beaten a formidable candidate as Hilary if the country didn't want TRUE change...he will be the next President if our Democratic (not Democrat) Party pulls together to defeat another 4 years of McBush!

Posted by: John | May 9, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Re: unsigned posts

Lots of us don't sign posts on "the trail" and "the fix" because Obama supporters forge other people's handles.

Why should anyone make it even easier for Obama supporters to mislead and confuse people?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

I've been doing a lot of research and I'm actually starting to come around on Obama. He's not as bad as they've been claiming.

He's actually very honest and smart. I'm half way through his second book, and I'm impressed. he's got some really good ideas.

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Hillary who? Oh yea, now I remember - that crazy lady yelling about her legions of dumb white crackers.

Posted by: Chief Two Dogs | May 9, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Look, svreader,

Why don't you sign your posts? Are you ashamed of yourself?

Posted by: LeftWithNoChoice | May 9, 2008 3:55 PM
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He does have a certain style - flailing, flinging poo on the wall style, doesn't he?

Posted by: LABC | May 9, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

A lot of [ not all of ] Clinton supporters here have touted the idea of "what has Obama done?"

I find this incredible. Either you have ulterior motives ( which isn't unheard of in a political campaign :-P ) or are unable to type words into a search engine.

But here's a brief bio on him:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama

Posted by: wolf | May 9, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

iowatreasures, sure is...

Buried.

Posted by: LeftWithNoChoice | May 9, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Sorry
dgrayson. Think about this it takes a big man or women to campaign like Obama did and by this reason along the man knows how to manage the people money. He is an ivy grad not a dumb man by far. McCain clearly said he don't have no experiece in the economy his campaigning can tell you that becouse he is always short on money to. Presidents that has a good finacial attitude does well doing there term in office. So Obama will be just fine.

Posted by: ikerock | May 9, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

"Its amazing how delusional Obama's supporters are.

Clinton supporters aren't planning to vote for McCain out of spite if Obama's the nominee.

We'd vote for McCain because voting for Obama is nuts!!!

Obama's not qualified to be commander in chief.

If we elect him, it will be perceived as a sign of weaknesss and we'll be attacked by every enemy the US has.

Obama supporters, and that includes the Washington Post, need to grow up.

OBama's not qualified to be President.

He doens't have "the right stuff"

Its an insult to African Americans to claim that he's the best they have.

There are many AA's far more qualified than him, starting with Colin Powell.

Obama has played the press like a cheap violin.

The rest of us aren't as easily manipulated.

Posted by: | May 9, 2008 3:49 PM

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That reminds me - must buy stock in Kleenex, must buy stock in kleenex...whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, John McCain take away my pain..

Sometimes, with some you so-called Clinton supporters, it like being in a room full of toddlers with runny noses, dirty diapers, sugar highs with no nap.

Posted by: I forgot my name but remembered my Obama lies" | May 9, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Look, svreader,

Why don't you sign your posts? Are you ashamed of yourself?

Posted by: LeftWithNoChoice | May 9, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Every time I see an Obama supporter post about how "clean" a campaign Obama's run, I feel like throwing up.

Obama's run nthe dirtiest campaign in years.

Go to http://www.attacktimeline.com

You'll see the details there.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

dgrayson---

And what has Hillary accomplished? Or Mitt? OR McCain?

Honestly, none of them have accomplished anything really notable, particularly Mitt.

Posted by: Brendan | May 9, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Because we are Republicans ... and a weakened O'Bama helps our party

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

What a wierd scenario. Moveon.org to the left of us - the elitists who control the Democratic Party - the biased media, the over the top pundits, and Obama and his anti-American wife, mother and associates. .

And we are supposed to now unite behind the guy who threw us under the bus with his race cards and class cards.

"Na, na, na," I think I will vote for the McCain/Clinton '08 ticket if Obama is our nominee.

I despise his wife. I distrust Obama's intentions.

Come on, Kentucky and West Virginia - show the elitists who is the boss - Get out and vote for Hillary. Anyone who stays home is a rotten egg ! ! gw.

Posted by: Iowatreasures | May 9, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

dgrayson. Think about this it takes a big man or women to campaign like Obama did and by this reason along the man knows how to manage the people money. He is an ivy grad not a dumb man by far. McCain clearly said he don't have no experiece in the economy his campaigning can tell you that becouse he is always short on money to. Presidents that has a good finacial attitude does well in the term in office. So Obama will be just fine.

Posted by: ikerock | May 9, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Why isn't the media bringing up Obama's history of repeated COCAINE use?

Why isn't the media bringing up "Obama's Slums"

Guess what folks. They will.

They're just waiting for Democrats to make the mistake of nominating him.

Then watch the fireworks begin...

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Dear dgrayson,

don't worry too much. A president has to be thoughtful first. We've survived eight years with a guy who goes by his uninformed "gut" so vote Obama, unless you like the Iraq Occupation and 15% of our economy dedicated to health care for not everyone.

If you want to bomb, bomb, bomb, Iran, vote McGookHater. It's not really that hard.

Remember, the "Gas Tax Holiday" was his Idea, which Hillary plagiarized, so maybe he's your guy after all.

Plus, I hear he's coming out with a bobble-head doll at the RNC.
I bet it would look great on top of one of your doilies.

Posted by: Duh | May 9, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

If elected McCain to open up a Geriatric Medical Unit in the White House.

Posted by: Maddogg | May 9, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Super Delegates are beginning the flood toward Obama. Today he is up 8 -- 7 formerly undeclared and one switch from HC. She picked up 1 undeclared.

Net Obama = +8
Net Clinton = 0

Posted by: GandalftheGrey | May 9, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Why isn't the major media outlets bringing up the Peter Paul trial against the clinton's

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Operation Chaos is working guys ... kepp it up JakeD, RAT ... YOU ARE THE MEN!! - OK DAWG

Posted by: Hubba Hubba | May 9, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Its amazing how delusional Obama's supporters are.

Clinton supporters aren't planning to vote for McCain out of spite if Obama's the nominee.

We'd vote for McCain because voting for Obama is nuts!!!

Obama's not qualified to be commander in chief.

If we elect him, it will be perceived as a sign of weaknesss and we'll be attacked by every enemy the US has.

Obama supporters, and that includes the Washington Post, need to grow up.

OBama's not qualified to be President.

He doens't have "the right stuff"

Its an insult to African Americans to claim that he's the best they have.

There are many AA's far more qualified than him, starting with Colin Powell.

Obama has played the press like a cheap violin.

The rest of us aren't as easily manipulated.


Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Don't leave so fast, Tom,
I've got something else to shove down your throat, you crybaby!

Posted by: Tom'sDaddy | May 9, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

On the topic or ARROGANCE and the belief in ENTITLEMENT

By Eugene Robinson
Friday, May 9, 2008; Page A27

From the beginning, Hillary Clinton has campaigned as if the Democratic nomination were hers by divine right. That's why she is falling short -- and that's why she should be persuaded to quit now, rather than later, before her majestic sense of entitlement splits the party along racial lines.

Posted by: Hubba Hubba | May 9, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Todd Wrote:

"Mr. Obama came with a stragety to divide and conquer this party. He's done it. And now he is holding the black vote hostage.

He can forget my vote in November. I'm voting for Experience and a Resume.

Everyone knows who that is. And who it isn't."

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Are you really going to vote Republican because you think (1) Sen. Clinton should be on the top of the ticket and (2) the DLC played "Rovian" politics? Seriously?

I've seen this kind of statement a number of times by people who post on these political articles. I have to think that they are either being dramatic (they can, after all, since this whole thing is anonymous) or they've lost their minds. Look, I understand that every election has winners and losers. But this is one party we're talking about here. The differences between Clinton and Obama on the things that MATTER (you know, policy) are pretty minute - with the exception of the recent Republican-esque rants exhibited by Sen. Clinton regarding gun control, Iran, gas taxes, etc.

I guess my question is this - Are you taking this election, and the defeat of Hillary Clinton, so personally that you would rather put into office a man who would champion the causes of those literally diametrically opposed to your own core values? If I got this wrong, that's cool. I'd love to hear a reasoned response beyond calling the DLC's tactics "Rovian" (that doesn't even really make sense since they've pretty much stayed out of this race...much to my disappointment).

But if it is indeed the case that you are considering voting for Sen. McCain simply because of the tone struck during the Democratic primary, I urge you to take a look at what you're actually thinking of doing. McCain certainly has "experience" and a "resume," but so do a lot of awful choices. What matters is what is said on the resume. Voting for McCain out of frustration that Clinton lost is the political equivalent of cutting off your own nose to spite your face.

Posted by: Dan | May 9, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

I'm always so surprised how ugly, demeaning and vicious the Obama supporters are on these blogs. For many of you, you believe disgusting and overtly untrue statements about Senator Clinton and her family some how make your case for Obama stronger. Sorry. It just makes those of us who support her more than willing not to vote for you candidate. Additionally, many of us believe that there is still more outstanding issues regarding your candidate that will sink him either before the convention in Denver or in the November election. And when that happens, I hope all who feel as I do will be just as ugly in our comments to you.....


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Oh, stop crying you big baby! It goes both ways. Of course, in typical fashion, you only see your side of things. Might I suggest for you the Republican Party? Tune you TV to Fox, and go with it.

Posted by: JakeE | May 9, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

I'm always so surprised how ugly, demeaning and vicious the Obama supporters are on these blogs. For many of you, you believe disgusting and overtly untrue statements about Senator Clinton and her family some how make your case for Obama stronger. Sorry. It just makes those of us who support her more than willing not to vote for you candidate. Additionally, many of us believe that there is still more outstanding issues regarding your candidate that will sink him either before the convention in Denver or in the November election. And when that happens, I hope all who feel as I do will be just as ugly in our comments to you.....

Posted by: LAMM01 | May 9, 2008 3:35 PM
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Oh, found it - my tiny violin. Let's see...do you know the words to "Who gives a flying f**k", LAMMO? Second verse is same as the first...

Posted by: LAMMOmadatmeanieObamasupporters...LAMMOholdsbreath | May 9, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

I will not vote for Obambi. Btter nader. Let the party die. I am so sick of moveon.org and weak dems shoving him down my throat. BYE.

Posted by: tom | May 9, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

I said it once and will say it again the Md,Va and DC metro area don't support racist people so please just move away...

Posted by: ikerock | May 9, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

No sure what's all the fuss ... from what I am reading a lot of Hillary supports are on this blog ... the cheaper way to get a vote without her lending all of her money for those 3:00 a.m. phone calls. Is Bill calling or is she just waking up to see if he is still in the room?

Posted by: Hubba Hubba | May 9, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous at 3:39 PM:

To be fair, what "experience" at the national level, in the military, or with foreign policy did Abe Lincoln have before being elected President?

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

When you say, "Worse than Jimmy Carter" are you referring to Reagan?

Posted by: Duh | May 9, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

I am a democrat who prefers Hillary Clinton. I've thought long and hard about this race as it drags on and on... At times I have preferred Senator Obama's demeanor and his ability to captivate the audience with his oratory. I will vote for either democrat in the fall as I think it would be a disgrace if McCain were to be elected. However, as Mitt Romney pointed out the other night- what has Barack Obama accomplished? I am worried about this- he has nothing of substance to put out there as his with the exception of the ethics bill he co-authored. He has no corporate experience (no fiscal or economic skills), no major legislative coups (sop much for reaching across the aisle) and very little intelligence (committee) experience. The one commodity he can offer is change but this comes without ever having effected change in national politics. Please- somebody help me out and reassure me that there is some substance here.

Posted by: dgrayson | May 9, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

So now Hillary supporters are desperately releasing their frustration on internet blogs stooping as low as to ridiculing young voters and label them as ignorant. WOW. Impressive. I guess they ignore the fact that Clinton's core supporters are low class, uneducated rednecks. She must be proud.

Posted by: Klindar | May 9, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

I'm JakeD, and I approve this message.

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

jennifer potenciano. You tell me what did Obama did wrong but winning this race by the rules the democratic party set up. How is he a cry baby he is winning so go fetch your bone...LOL

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

I received a begging eMail from the DNC today. They want money.

This was my reply to Phil Murphy:


Phil. My money is going to Hillary Clinton. I am one of the 50% of Democratic voters who have been ignored and insulted by the DNC and Democratic Leadership. Leahy, Pelosi, Daschel (unelected power grubbing), Dodd, Richardson. They have tampered with and tried to TRUMP the will of the Democratic voters who support Hillary. They will never get another thing from me. NOT because of Hillary - because of their TOTAL ROVIAN and TOM DELAY ARROGANCE.


Mr. Obama came with a stragety to divide and conquer this party. He's done it. And now he is holding the black vote hostage.

He can forget my vote in November. I'm voting for Experience and a Resume.

Everyone knows who that is. And who it isn't.

Posted by: Todd | May 9, 2008 3:22 PM
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To Dan:
From: Planet Earth
Re: you

No one cares...remember to recycle, fool!

Posted by: I' m Dan and I want everyone to know how important I am...to myself | May 9, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

The problem is that Obama's unelectable, and if by some miracle he were to get in, he'd be much worse than Jimmy Carter.

I'm a liberal, and a Democrat, but I'm an American and a Parent above all.

Obama only has two years experience at the national level.

Obama has no military or foreign policy experience.

Obama's a coward and can't think on his feet.

All those things would lead our nation's enemies to perceive weakness and to attack us to test our resolve.

If Obama had been president on 9/11, he would have tried to deal with it through diplomatic channels and there would have been more attacks on US soil.

Obama's way too green, immature, inexperienced and cowardly.

Americans will not trust him with the safety of our families.

If Obama's the candidate, McCain will win by a landslide.

Obama isn't suitable to be commander in chief.

Nothing he can say can change the facts.

Obama's unelectable.

If the DNC wants to drive the party off a cliff they have the right to do it.

They do not have the right to destroy America.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

LAMMO, or whatever that is, Check out some of the Clintonistas...

see svreader, thinker, iowatreasures, for starters...

Obama supporters do not even BEGIN to compare to their cockamamie assertions.

Stop Crying. Nobody's being mean to Hillary. At least we never called her a "Purple-lipped Cockroach", you hypocrite.

Posted by: Duh | May 9, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

I see Hillary's storm trooper are still at "it", tossing dirt and insults. Look "ladies", becasue we flat out loathe Hillary Clinton, doesn't mean we wont support a woman for President. I, for one, happen to like Nancy Pelosi. I cannot stand Hillary and wont vote for any ticket that features her anywhere. There are other politician's, worse than her, but darn few, and I have never run into a greater collection of bigots and anti-intellectual fools, than with her supporters. You people have done quite enough damage. Now, shut up! If you're intent on voting for McCain, fine. Go do it. If you're intent on sitting out the election, also fine. Just don't come complaining to us when "choice" is gone, when "gay rights" is a public joke, when your job is outsourced or you get replaced by a cheap guest worker, when China and India gain enough monitary interst in this country that they can dictate policy, when everything you claim to believe in evaporate like so much mist in the harsh light of the sun. Go ahead. Just don't bother us with your rush to commit suicide. Okay?

Posted by: MikeB | May 9, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Not a chance ... study the margin of victory by state

http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/votes/index.html

Posted by: JakeA | May 9, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Bits and Bites:

Except, of course, the times Florida voted for Clinton ; )

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

I'm always so surprised how ugly, demeaning and vicious the Obama supporters are on these blogs. For many of you, you believe disgusting and overtly untrue statements about Senator Clinton and her family some how make your case for Obama stronger. Sorry. It just makes those of us who support her more than willing not to vote for you candidate. Additionally, many of us believe that there is still more outstanding issues regarding your candidate that will sink him either before the convention in Denver or in the November election. And when that happens, I hope all who feel as I do will be just as ugly in our comments to you.....

Posted by: LAMM01 | May 9, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Not surprised Clinton voters would rather vote for McCain. Given all the race baiting, that campaign has reaped what it has sown.

http://www.illvox.org/

Posted by: j | May 9, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Ken4:

The DNC RULES clearly state that any dispute over Florida and Michigan gets settled by the Credentials Committee. "Electibility" remains an argument until then.

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

OK, If Obama's camp was intentionally dividing the electorate by race, which is a Retarded Assertion, why didn't they use Gender Instead?

Oh, Yeah, That's right, because it wasn't them, you nit wits, it was Billy who compared him to Jesse Jackson! Who asked his old a$$ about Jesse Jackson?

Nobody! Why not compare Obama to any number of candidates who won SC and lost the nomination?

Why Not? Because they're focused on Race. Why would a Black Man, running for President, want to have a Larger "Black" sign around his neck.

it makes no sense, but that doesn't stop you morons from believing it. By the way, I heard they finally found the WMD in Iraq, Breaking News... Quick, it's on Fox right Now...This is BIG!!!

Posted by: Duh | May 9, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

We should all be thankful that the Republican are in control of the VOTING MACHINES ... or Hilliary will steal the nomination on popular vote. Republicans are the VIRTUAL and IT people among Americans.


Hang in there John ... Florida always vote Republican

Posted by: Bits and Bites | May 9, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

The time to argue about Obama's electability is past. I understand that many Clinton supporters find him and many of his supporters distasteful, just as the reverse is the case. But these prophecies of doom in November have every chance of being self-fulfilling. The Democratic party is a sometimes uneasy coalition, just as the Republican party is. But unless we want to hand it to the Republicans it is time for the various constituencies to come togeather, bury the hatchet, and work for our common interests.

Posted by: Ken4 | May 9, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

I am surprised anyone thought Hillary supporters would vote for anyone but McCain in the general election. Her campaign's ongoing race baiting has reaped what it has sown.

Fortunately for Obama, most will not vote for a Clinton.

Posted by: j | May 9, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Hillary wouldn't be what she is now if she was not the wife of a former US president. This attached and non- instrinsic prestige does not qualify the lady for US presidency nor even the Senate.
I do not see her any different from any usual housewife in this country.The proper place for this arrogant and presumptuous lady is her kitchen,not the white house.

Posted by: sam | May 9, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Chitta Nirmel:

in re: "How many of them can even spell words like 'comprehend', 'articulate', 'rationlization' or 'internecine'??????"

You misspelled "rationAlization."

Have a nice day!

Posted by: check yo'self | May 9, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

I'm with you, too, Todd!

Obama divided the party on purpose. Good Point!

Now, pass the crack pipe.

Posted by: Me & Todd | May 9, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

obama has "impressive skills as a candidate"? he notched a "remarkable victory"?

come again, what's that?

look again, seriously, & you'll see something deeply disturbing in obama.


here is it.


there's an obvious touch of the hideous & the bizarre in the way obama & his camp have made hillary rodham clinton as the african-american's perennial punching bag & shock absorber--ever since after his iowa win &, believe it or not, up to four years hence. his hordes of new fair-weather adherents, easily warming up to the idea, have taken to the habit like it were a second skin.

every ill wind that comes obama's way is ascribed to hillary, every harm or negative occurrence that befalls the african-american is ultimately traceable to her doing, & all her utterances are almost always "racist." in fine, everything unpleasant (the odor fouling up the air that obama & his gang of self-proclaimed waiting-in-the-wings royal mandarins breathe, the scene, the weather, even obama's mood, and events and accidents occurring today or even within the next four years ) is always hillary's fault.

the rule of thumb long observed by obama & his well-trained fanatics is this: everything positive is obama-inspired, everything negative is hillary-driven.

the well-delivered speech, the correct view & judgment on people & events, the perfect policy appraisals, even a well-turned phrase--these should all be heaped upon obama. but the bad turn of events, the african-american's gaffes & other faux pas, his horrendous errors in judgment, his unforgivable character flaws, his lack of knowledge on pivotal issues, his no-brainier "attack hillary's solutions, not the problems" so-called "program" of government, everything that does not augur well for obama--these should all blamed on hillary.

"remember," as obama always instructs his gang of pavlovian apologists, "hillary is always 'racist,' the moment she opens up her mouth & says 'white,' while we can always say 'black' & appeal to our brethren--consciously, impliedly, subconsciously, by whatever means. for it's only us, the blacks, who are 'licensed' to play the race card--& who can get away with it."

this is the underlying philosophy that characterizes obama's unfounded plaint that hillary is intent on "destroying" his (the african-american's) presidential bid, by her dogged vow to soldier on, not to quit the race, & keep fighting. what's even worse is obama's publicly-voiced-out extrapolated, if prophetic, imagining, nay, hallucination, that hillary is hell-bent on "destroying" him (obama) "as president" for the next four years, so that hillary can run again in 2012!

imagine obama's gall in ascribing to hillary all his self-inflicted wounds, all his gross mistakes & rank failures, & all his stupidities TODAY & FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS! can anyone beat such obama hubris? unbelievable!

yet, i say: this nasty habit of obama, unrecognized by political analysts & the u.s. media/press in general, needs to be pointed out.


obama has succeeded beyond his wildest dreams & expectations in demonizing hillary to the hilt, that even the presumably "perceptive" & "intelligent" u.s. media/press have gone along with it, unknowing that they've been used, & continued to be used by professional character assassins who're the modern-day racist versions of the notorious witch-hunting mccarthy.

but in so doing, obama, unknowingly, has shown to the public the totally repulsive side of his character & political persona--an opportunistic, totally ruthless, machiavellian politician completely consumed by his overarching ambition to be the next u.s. president, & lacking in statesmanlike qualities.

finally to obama, i say: be a man, not a crybaby sissy, not a limp-wristed wimp who's expert at putting up a woman like hillary as your perfect cover-up for your incompetence & inadequacies, & the public's diverted object of derision & the u.s. media/press dartboard, as it were, for their pointed & fatally wounding one-sided pro-obama "news accounts." ****

Posted by: jennifer potenciano | May 9, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is so old, he cannot remember if he voted for George Bush or not. Yes, no.... he just can't remember.

Posted by: JakeD's shadow | May 9, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

If Hillary have to be on the ticket then to bad we should lose. Hillary supporters don't want to vote for obama becouse he is winning by the democratic rules. That is just the wrong way to think. As far as this article the writer needs to tell the truth the working class HRC is talking about is the older white women on social security,low income or poor. So if this article is true how come Clinton is not winning 90% of the white votes. Remember those voters were around when blacks were treated worst than animals and they will vote for a image that favor them and being black is just not that image. People should understand that Clinton has issues coming up and do we need this in the White House. Hillary has a fraud case she is involve in that will be going to court sometime in May 2008 in the case of Paul vs Clinton. Something the media is not talking about becouse she got a stay to keep the media from talking about it. This party will come togather once a nominee is pick and I hope we as people don't fall in that trap not to vote for the winner becouse the other party has lost. So to the Clinton voters and Obama voters just remember Obama is winning by the democratic rules and not his the democrats made up the rules and if you are anger at that let the party now by writing the party to change the rules but don't hurt the nominee becouse he or she will win by following the rules set forth by the DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

Posted by: ikerock | May 9, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Obama doesn't need to win Florida. All he has to do is flip Ohio or some combination of smaller swing states.

When you think about the election on a national scale, it's easy to see how it could swing toward either Obama or McCain. But when you start thinking about individual states, and how the climate has changed in them, it appears that McCain starts off with an almost insurmountable hurdle. Other than NH, it's very hard to see him picking up any states that Bush lost in 2004, while it's easy to see him losing IA, CO, and others.

Posted by: Stan | May 9, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Good advice for Obama. It will be tempting for him to start the general election camapaign since it's all over but the shouting but there are 6 more primaries to go. Sure, they're mostly meaningless at this point but Obama can use them to hone his messages, build on his strengths and work on his weaknesses by spending time campaigning in these states and can also build his base in them for the general.

Hillary's negative attacks and the Wright problems were bad but it's good to get them out now rather then in September and October. The Wright scandal is mostly over now and if McCain brings it up again Obama can counter with Hagee.

Once the general election starts for real I think the stark differences between Obama'a message of hope and change and McCain's message of fear, expanding war, and bad economics will become clear and Obama will prevail easily.

Posted by: David | May 9, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

As I said before SHE IS BACK ... and the plan or the card she is playing is the race card ... white people would not vote for a black man ... not an East Indian in Louisiana or a Chinese once a governor in the State of Washington ... we throw Jesse Jackson at him ... we did not throw Michael Jackson at him yet ... we tried Jerimiah Wright ... we stated that our good friend John McCain is a better leader than him ... we said how nice it is for America to have two friends Hillary and John competing for the best for the country. HILLARY WANTS ONE TERM JOHN McCAIN TO WIN ... Then the old time politics will be back in 2012. Twenty (20) years of Bush/Clinton/Bush/??? - I will take Jeb Bush over her any day of the week.

Posted by: JakeA | May 9, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is so so old, he can't remember if he voted for George Bush or not.

Posted by: JakeD's shadow | May 9, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

That's RIGHT Lucille, GOOD Point!!

Obama doesn't have experience!

Hillary's an old Pro at Campaigning, that's why she kicked his...

Wait a minute... what good was all her experience?

Hmmmm.

Posted by: Duh | May 9, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Obama is not the star candidate that democrats have touted him to be. He's gotten off easy, he's had a free ride, and to be honest he's one this thing by default-Hillary Clinton is really not a formidable candidate, people are sick of it, Bush-Clinton-Bush, another CLinton?! No thanks! Obama's message is change. Well duh, change is inevitable, 8 years of Bush. He's inexperienced, has very little appeal to white working class citizens, the real silent majority, and where he really stands on the issues is unclear. Not mention what really is in his background? Obama is nothing more than a terrific orator, thanks to talented speech writers, and the quintessential elitist democratic nominee, the exception being he is black and young. A first but nothing that can overcome Mcain's record and the person he is. Here we go again!

Posted by: Elizabeth A. | May 9, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Oh now we are going to pretend that Bush Cheney could be re-elected? McSame is a joke. The only bump he will get is when Bush hands him a national security crisis or two.

But, the "Real Race" is over and lucky for you, we won.

The largest grass roots political donor base in history got their candidate elected. What are you going to do, shoot him?

Just sit back and watch Obama and his supporters reverse the disaster you Bush/Clinton people foisted on this country and the world.

Posted by: shrink2 | May 9, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse


MORE BABY WIPE OBAMA MEDIA

BIG SUCKING SOUND IS MR. BALZ LIPS ON OBAMA'S BUTT

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Hillary wouldn't be what she is now if she was not the wife of a former US president. This attached and non- instrinsic prestige does not qualify the lady for US presidency nor even the Senate.
I do not see her any different from any usual housewife in this country.The proper place for this arrogant and presumptuous lady is her kitchen,not the white house.

Posted by: sam | May 9, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse


I received a begging eMail from the DNC today. They want money.

This was my reply to Phil Murphy:


Phil. My money is going to Hillary Clinton. I am one of the 50% of Democratic voters who have been ignored and insulted by the DNC and Democratic Leadership. Leahy, Pelosi, Daschel (unelected power grubbing), Dodd, Richardson. They have tampered with and tried to TRUMP the will of the Democratic voters who support Hillary. They will never get another thing from me. NOT because of Hillary - because of their TOTAL ROVIAN and TOM DELAY ARROGANCE.


Mr. Obama came with a stragety to divide and conquer this party. He's done it. And now he is holding the black vote hostage.

He can forget my vote in November. I'm voting for Experience and a Resume.

Everyone knows who that is. And who it isn't.

Posted by: Todd | May 9, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse


I received a begging eMail from the DNC today. They want money.

This was my reply to Phil Murphy:


Phil. My money is going to Hillary Clinton. I am one of the 50% of Democratic voters who have been ignored and insulted by the DNC and Democratic Leadership. Leahy, Pelosi, Daschel (unelected power grubbing), Dodd, Richardson. They have tampered with and tried to TRUMP the will of the Democratic voters who support Hillary. They will never get another thing from me. NOT because of Hillary - because of their TOTAL ROVIAN and TOM DELAY ARROGANCE.


Mr. Obama came with a stragety to divide and conquer this party. He's done it. And now he is holding the black vote hostage.

He can forget my vote in November. I'm voting for Experience and a Resume.

Everyone knows who that is. And who it isn't.

Posted by: Todd | May 9, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Dan,

What are you and Obama so scared of?

Could it be West Virgina?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

My message is to Clinton supporters who are still threatening to vote McCain (though already their numbers seem to be dwindling).

Here's a horrible, cruel joke about the Clintons:

"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because Hillary is her mother and Janet Reno is her father."

Now, who said that? A mean Obama supporter? No, it was John McCain who told that "joke", at a GOP fundraising dinner in June 1998.

Point that out to frustrated Hillary supporters who think Obama or his followers have been mean to the Clintons.

It also shows McCain's dismal judgement, because any fool can see that Chelsea is very cute.

Are you sure John McCain is really the perfect white knight for Hillary's distressed ladies?

"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because Hillary is her mother and Janet Reno is her father."
Sen. John McCain

McCain is a guy who calls his wife a "c**t" and "trollop" in front of reporters.

A guy with a long track record of vindictively pursuing junior people - especially women - who get in his way, even if they were just secretaries following their bosses' orders.
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/19/AR2008041902224.html)

Dear me, no, I really don't think McCain is what enlightened women voters are looking for.

Posted by: kenonwenu | May 9, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

It seems to me that the Democrats are more "sexist" than they are "racist". Feelings of personal inadequacy are universal - every one of us feels less than adequate about something or the other. So it is very interesting that so many people feel animosity toward Sen. Hillary Clinton, yet so many are willing to trust the lesser known, and in many respects virtually unknown, Sen. Barack Obama.

All this talk of how "inspirng" he is smacks of a diluted form of the clinging to "faith" that one sees on the Republican side. Both require the suspension of rational thought, and both require one to believe without the benefit of facts.

The young are excited by Obama because they see him on Facebook and Youtube. Big deal! How many of the same young, excited, new but numerically important voters know who their own state's senators, congressmen or governor are? How many of them can even spell words like "comprehend", "articulate", "rationlization" or "internecine"?????? These are ignorant babies eager to be "inspired" by a man - Obama - who has not a single blood relative who suffered the humiliations of segregation. Such vapid people were among the earliest acolytes of the fake Hindu gurus who came to the U.S. and were treated like divine or saintly beings by the young and the foolish in the recent past.

The world shudders to think that it will be the votes of such uninformed and gullible folks that will determine how the world's only superpower will lurch forward from the meanness of Resident Dumbush and his favorite Dick to the equally dangerous navigation of either Obama or McCain.

Posted by: Chitta Nirmel | May 9, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

"Obama and his followers have called on Senator Clinton to drop out of the race since the New Hampshire primary, and have pegged anyone who supports Clinton as uneducated and/or a racist."

Actually, it is Hillary Clinton herself who claims that her supporters are uneducated and/or racist.

Posted by: Stax | May 9, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Mad As Hell:

You are mistaking me for someone who would vote for Hillary in a million years.

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

It seems to me that the Democrats are more "sexist" than they are "racist". Feelings of personal inadequacy are universal - every one of us feels less than adequate about something or the other. So it is very interesting that so many people feel animosity toward Sen. Hillary Clinton, yet so many are willing to trust the lesser known, and in many respects virtually unknown, Sen. Barack Obama.

All this talk of how "inspirng" he is smacks of a diluted form of the clinging to "faith" that one sees on the Republican side. Both require the suspension of rational thought, and both require one to believe without the benefit of facts.

The young are excited by Obama because they see him on Facebook and Youtube. Big deal! How many of the same young, excited, new but numerically important voters know who their own state's senators, congressmen or governor are? How many of them can even spell words like "comprehend", "articulate", "rationlization" or "internecine"?????? These are ignorant babies eager to be "inspired" by a man - Obama - who has not a single blood relative who suffered the humiliations of segregation. Such vapid people were among the earliest acolytes of the fake Hindu gurus who came to the U.S. and were treated like divine or saintly beings by the young and the foolish in the recent past.

The world shudders to think that it will be the votes of such uninformed and gullible folks that will determine how the world's only superpower will lurch forward from the meanness of Resident Dumbush and his favorite Dick to the equally dangerous navigation of either Obama or McCain.

Posted by: Chitta Nirmel | May 9, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

McCain is a guy who told a San Fran Chronicle reporter: "I hate the Gooks, I will hate them as long as I live."

Perhaps Asian-American Hillary supporters should also think twice before flocking to McCain.

He can't remember whether al-Qaeda is Sunni or Shia (this wasn't a slip of the tongue, he's since repeated the same mistake).

He tabled legislation to force Bill Clinton to flee Somalia. Then he turned around and pretended it was all Clinton's idea when Bill had actually wanted to stay. (Don't believe me? Here's a video of McCain tabling his bill and demanding immediate flight from Somalia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPyKpcivQYQ ).

On the plus side, he will give you zero healthcare, mass job flight, corporate plutocracy, 100 years in Iraq, war with Iran, $200 gas, more lobbyists than you can shake a stick at, and a benchful of women-hating judges.

I'm still hearing a few angry people saying: "I will never vote for Obama, if Hillary isn't nominated I'll vote for McCain in November."

Really......?? I'd have a second think about that if I were you.

Posted by: kenonwenu | May 9, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

RAT-The:

Voting for a third-party candidate is fine (unless you are in a swing State).

jpl:

YOU were the one who asked "Who cares what the polls say now?" I was simply answering your question.

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Ho-hum. Another Obama press release from Balz disguised as news or commentary. When do you officially go to work for him? Or do you already get checks?

Posted by: John | May 9, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Hey JakeD,
Your girl Hillary "Rotten" Clinton is toast! Hillary claiming republican "support" in Indiana and winning that way and then refusing to quit, makes her "the Benedict Arnold" of the Dem Party !!!!
And as for McBush, with Iraq around his neck, he will sink faster than the fat lady can loose wt.

Posted by: Mad As Hell | May 9, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Obama has no experience. Why should Hillary give up as you pundits wish. The voters have not all been counted

Posted by: Lucille | May 9, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Don't count on any Clinton supporters.

VOTING PROBLEMS
Mecklenburg, Wake find vote flaws
Updated: 05/09/2008 07:38 AM
By: Shawn Flynn

[The problem regarding this year's double counting was narrowed down to an optical scanner machine, which most counties do not use.]
The problem regarding this year's double counting was narrowed down to an optical scanner machine, which most counties do not use.
MECKLENBURG & WAKE COUNTIES -- Vote tallies are changing in the state's two largest counties, after certain ballots were counted twice in Mecklenburg and Wake counties.

The mistake didn't change the outcome of any elections, but it is a cause for concern to election directors. For example, when Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama declared victory Tuesday night in North Carolina's primary, he was given approximately 15,000 votes more than he should have been. That's 1 percent of all ballots cast.

In Wake County, early and absentee ballots were counted as part of the individual voters precincts and again as a whole. "So in essence, those voters were recorded double," said Cherie Poucher of the Wake Co. Board of Elections. It was around 37,000 votes.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Why is the media treating him like a movie star? The word used in this article was giddy?? Please the democratic party has been a disgrace how they have handled the Clintons. As imperfect as they may be, they have devoted themselves to this party. I see a pattern him with Americans. Push the old and unpopular and unwanted into the nuring homes. This will not happen in other countries. There is no loyalty in the americn culture.

Posted by: ken | May 9, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

"Unfortunately, for the Super Delegates, they are being asked to "predict" what will happen in November based on EXACTLY this type of info."

Wow. Tough life. Everyone's got to make decisions and critically weigh the information available. Oh wait, that's the responsbility of every voter. What was I thinking?

Posted by: jpl | May 9, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA'S HARD DRUG HISTORY MAKES HIM UNELECTABLE.

LOOK FOR THE WASHINGTON POST TO "DISCOVER" THIS FACT THE DAY AFTER OBAMA GETS THE NOMINATION IF DEMOCRATS ARE STUPID ENOUGH TO NOMINATE HIM

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Gallup looked at polls and has Obama starting off with similar support among white, working-class voters as Kerry had, and I think Obama's supporters are much more energized and will show up in higher numbers than Kerry's supporters did.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/107110/Obamas-Support-Similar-Kerrys-2004.aspx

Posted by: Elizabeth | May 9, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

While I am a Clinton supporter, I will vote for Obama if he is our nominee. However, I would never descibe him as the stronger candidate. Obama and his followers have called on Senator Clinton to drop out of the race since the New Hampshire primary, and have pegged anyone who supports Clinton as uneducated and/or a racist. Is this Obama's strategy when he runs against John McCain? If so, we are in trouble.

Posted by: jka | May 9, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

JakeD-Sorry, but after reading about the Aridzona Land Scam that netted a McCain contributer over a Billion $ windfall, I fear everything McAmnesty is about.

We need to get the GUY GONE!

OR, begin promoting another Candidate as a Third Party Choice!

No official coronation has been granted McAmnesty YET! What has occurred since he secured the Nomination till now, is Just as bad as what "Barry" has suffered.

Only, I like to think RepubliCANS, are a little SMARTER than to commit Political Suicide!

Posted by: RAT-The | May 9, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Mike of Atlanta:

I don't believe that the "better person came out on top" so we'll have to agree to disagree on that.

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Thank you Obama for running a clean campaign. You never brought up Monika Lewinski and Bill. You never questioned Hillary's patriotism. You never made sexist remarks, even though the Clintons have made MANY RACIST remarks.

The better person came out on top. It's clear for all to see and, at this point, is something we all agree upon.

Posted by: Mike of Atlanta | May 9, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

OD:

This is the last time I will tell you -- I am registered Independent -- if the FAKE JakeD "admitted" he is a Republican, please try to understand that is a different person.

Ward 6 DC and jpl:

Unfortunately, for the Super Delegates, they are being asked to "predict" what will happen in November based on EXACTLY this type of info.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Impressive, analytical, balanced article. Amidst all of Hillary's negative attacks and the MSM's penchant for focusing on gaffes, voters may not be spending enough time appreciating the strengths of the candidates, especially Obama. As you suggest, this relative newcomer is poised to make history in more ways than race.

I'm very proud of my country right now.

Posted by: Seneca | May 9, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

I would like Obama to at least try to connect with voters in virginia

Posted by: gretta | May 9, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

@ JakeD

Presidential polling 6 months prior to the election says nothing about the election's outcome. Who cares what the polls say now? Really. At the beginning of the primary season few if any polls predicted a McCain-Obama matchup in the presidential election. Current polling is no better.

Posted by: jpl | May 9, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Ken Blackwell - New York Sun
It's an amazing time to be alive in America. We're in a year of firsts in this presidential election: the first viable woman candidate; the first viable African-American candidate; and, a candidate who is the first front running freedom fighter over 70. The next president of America will be a first.
We won't truly be in an election of firsts, however, until we judge every candidate by where they stand. We won't arrive where we should be until we no longer talk about skin color or gender. Now that Barack Obama steps to the front of the Democratic field, we need to stop talking about his race, and start talking about his policies and his politics.
The reality is this: Though the Democrats will not have a nominee until August, unless Hillary Clinton drops out, Mr. Obama is now the frontrunner, and its time America takes a closer and deeper look at him.
Some pundits are calling him the next John F. Kennedy. He's not. He's the next George McGovern. And it's time people learned the facts.
Because the truth is that Mr. Obama is the single most liberal senator in the entire U.S. Senate. He is more liberal than Ted Kennedy, Bernie Sanders, or Mrs. Clinton. Never in my life have I seen a presidential frontrunner whose rhetoric is so far removed from his record. Walter Mondale promised to raise our taxes and he lost. George McGovern promised military weakness and he lost. Michael Dukakis promised a liberal domestic agenda and he lost.
Yet Mr. Obama is promising all those things, and he's not behind in the polls. Why? Becau se the press has dealt with him as if he were in a beauty pageant. Mr. Obama talks about getting past party, getting past red and blue, to lead the United States of America. But let's look at the more defined strokes of whom he is underneath this superficial "beauty."
Start with national security, since the president's most important duties are as commander-in-chief. Over the summer, Mr. Obama talked about invading Pakistan, a nation armed with nuclear weapons; meeting without preconditions with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who vows to destroy Israel and create another Holocaust; and Kim Jong II, who is murdering and starving his people, but emphasized that the nuclear option was off the table against terrorists - something no president has ever taken off the table since we created nuclear weapons in the 1940's. Even Democrats who have worked in national sec urity condemned all of those remarks. Mr. Obama is a foreign-policy novice who would put our national security at risk.
Next, consider economic policy. For all its faults, our health care system is the strongest in the world. And free trade agreements, created by Bill Clinton as well as President Bush, have made more goods more affordable so that even people of modest means can live a life that no one imagined a generation ago. Yet Mr. Obama promises to raise taxes on "the rich." How to fix Social Security? Raise taxes. How to fix Medicare? Raise taxes. Prescription drugs? Raise taxes. Free college? Raise taxes. Socialize medicine? Raise taxes. His solution to everything is to have government take it over. Big Brother on steroids, funded by your paycheck.
&nb sp; Finally, look at the social issues. Mr. Obama had the audacity to open a stadium rally by saying, "All praise and glory to God!" but says that Christian leaders speaking for life and marriage have hijacked Christianity. He is pro-partial birth abortion, and promises to appoint Supreme Court justices who will rule any restriction on it unconstitutional. He espouses the abortion views of Margaret Sanger, one of the early advocates of racial cleansing. His spiritual leaders endorse homosexual marriage, and he is moving in that direction. In Illinois, he refused to vote against a statewide ban on all handguns in the state. These are radical left, Hollywood, and San Francisco values, not Middle America values.
The real Mr. Obama is an easy target for the general election. Mrs. Clinton is a far tougher opponent. But Mr. Obama could win if people don't start looking behind his veneer and flowery speeches. His vision of "bringing America together" means saying that those who disagree with his agenda for America are hijackers or warmongers. Uniting the country means adopting his liberal agenda and abandoning any conflicting beliefs.
But right now everyone is talking about how eloquent of a speaker he is and - yes - they're talking about his race. Those should never be the factors on which we base our choice for president. Mr. Obama's radical agenda sets him far outside the American mainstream, to the left of Mrs. Clinton.
It's time to talk about the real Barack Obama. In an election of firsts, let's first make sure we elect the person who is qualified to be our president in a nuclear age during a global civilizational war.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

When Obama grants amnesty to 35 million illegal aliens by executive order, makes Spanish the official language of America, raises taxes 20 percent on Americans who make more than $70K per year to pay for illegal alien benefits and the conversion of Ameirca into Mexico, then outlaws our second amendment rights with which to fight the Mexican Government takeover, America will be forced to think twice, too late, about Obama's CHANGE message.

Posted by: Tom Jefferson | May 9, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Matt 1:51 pm,

Did that comment have any point other than plugging your own blog?

Posted by: Jackson Landers | May 9, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

JakeD, still arguing for Hillary? Still telling us how electable she is?

You are a REPUBLICAN who wants the Democrats to LOSE the election. You even admit it.

When you recommend Hillary to us, it has the same effect as hearing a wise, trusted friend warn against her.

When you bash Obama, what we hear is an Obama endorsement. Obviously. You're really wasting your time, man.

Posted by: OD | May 9, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Change can be for the worst!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 2:36 PM

It maybee, but unchange have to be the worst.

Change has no alternative.

Posted by: gandra | May 9, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Regardless of any single issue, it comes down to the fact that Hillary DIANE Hillary can win Florida and Barack HUSSEIN Obama can't -- there's also no denying that McCain is AHEAD of Obama in head-to-head State polling.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/May09.html

And, McCain would LOSE to Clinton (if the vote was held today).

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Clinton/Maps/May09.html

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 2:39 PM
______________________________________________

I am not confident that any Democrat could win Florida. However, if Florida can be won, it will be because their citizens are utterly tired of the last 8 years of Republican leadership, or lack thereof.

We are at the time of party unification. Hillary supporters are certainly within their rights to cede from supporting Obama, however, that is shortsight in that the objective for all of the initial Democratic candidates was to win back the White House at all costs.

As a Democrat, in the White House, Barrack Obama, would be as indebted to Hillary Supporters as his own. They, too, are still, Democrats.

Posted by: Ward 6 DC | May 9, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Bravo. Excellent. This is one of the best 'state of the race' pieces that I have seen anywhere in the media in recent weeks. Two thumbs up.

Posted by: Jackson Landers | May 9, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Hate to say it but for Obama to win he's going to have to put Shrillary on the ticket. There's too much emotion invested by each's supporters now to have only one. It would be a strong ticket too except that Shrill is shooting herself in her glass slippered foot by denegrating his chances.

Posted by: cmsatown | May 9, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I think an Obama-Warner ticket would be great for America. Warner would add a conservativism of the South to the White House and I wouldn't mind him being the President, should anything, God forsaken happen to Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Hillbillary needs to understand
that she doesn't have a reputation
worth saving.

The people in Washington DC that
kiss her rear-end are mearly doing
it to gain political ties.


The price that comes with aligning
oneself with such underhanded
political lobbyist pigs isn't
worth it, anymore.


Hillbillary need to step out of
the picture for a long time to
recover from the tarnished cretin
behavior.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Obama is being compared to Lincoln. It's a worthy comparison.

In some respects Obama is also near two more recent presidents, FDR and Reagan. Like Obama today, these two showed comfort within their skins. Each was blessed with a calm and even temperament. Both Roosevelt and Reagan loved competitive politics and (like Hubert Humphrey before Vietnam broke him) deserved the nickname of Happy Warrior. And like FDR and RR, Obama is demonstrating that he is an agent of change.

Posted by: FirstMouse | May 9, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Now its time to select Senator Casey of Pennsylvania as Obama's VP.

Obama-Casey in 08!

Posted by: svbreeder | May 9, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Regardless of any single issue, it comes down to the fact that Hillary DIANE Hillary can win Florida and Barack HUSSEIN Obama can't -- there's also no denying that McCain is AHEAD of Obama in head-to-head State polling.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/May09.html

And, McCain would LOSE to Clinton (if the vote was held today).

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Clinton/Maps/May09.html

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Does OBAMA wear a turbin??

Posted by: OBAMA | May 9, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Change can be for the worst!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

BEING A PRISONER OF WAR IS NOT A CAKE WALK BUT ANOTHER THING IS THE URBAN LEGEND MEDIA CREATED AROUND MCCAIN. HE WAS IN PRISON THE WHOLE DURATION OF THE THE VIETNAM WAR, NEVER SEEN COMBAT, NEVER KILLED A ENEMY OR SAVE A FELLOW SOLDIER LIVE BUT HE WAS AND STILL PRESENTED AS A SUPPER HERO, BIGGER THAN PATTON. IT IS TIME TO REVIEW THE REALITY AND GIVE HIS STORY A SENSE OF PROPORTIONALITY

Posted by: esculapious | May 9, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

We all know that the republicans will run advertisements showing Senator Obama side by side with Reverend White. They will play the loop of Rev White saying "god damn america" from dusk to dawn. But unlike 2004 when John Kerry allowed himself to be swiftboated, this time democrats will run their own advertisements showing Senator McCain hugging the man who actually damned america. I put my money on the later being more persuasive.

Posted by: pj451 | May 9, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Justin:

Why is McCain AHEAD in head-to-head State polling? http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/May09.html

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Sen Obama's supporters here might reconsider the wisdom of ceding so much authority to Mr Balz and his ilk. They may not always agree with their rulings.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

How exactly is McCain even remotely comparable to Clinton as an opponent. McCain was knocked out of the 2000 Republican primaries in one early blow. He's been an extremely weak fund raiser and has a career plagued by scandals and gaffes. McCain only stumbled into the GOP nomination because the evangelicals wouldn't support Romney or Giuliani and big business wouldn't support Huckabee. He's a compromise candidate that most of his party is not happy with.

The McCain of 2000 could have been a strong contender, but the McCain of 2008 is a weak candidate. He's carrying a Bush anchor around his neck that he flip-flopped to put there. Once people start paying actually remember that he's in the race it will be impossible to ignore all of his overwhelming flaws.

Posted by: Justin | May 9, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Democrats for McCain
Mark Warner for Senate

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

RAT-The:

The GOP race is much more "done" than the Dem race -- she's at least still in the race -- get over it.

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Dear Fellow Americans.

Our Great-grand Nation, the United States of America
is and will face very critical and substantial
"Challenges" in coming,
months, years, and decades.

It is very essential that we pick our next
President on the basis of following criteria.


1. A candidate with a clear "Vision and Mission".

2. A candidate with a sound " Character and Integrity"
.

3. A candidate with a evident "Presidential
Temperament" and " Principled Judgment".

4. A candidate with "little "Washington exposure"
and "real future and past Voters".

5. A candidate who "Inspires us up" rather than
"Tears us down".

6. A candidate not based on past "sexism, racism, and
ageism".

In my professional and personal opinion, the only
candidate who has shown the above qualities and
characteristics is Senator Obama.

As an independent registered voter since 1980. I voted
for Carter, voted for Reagan, voted for First Bush,
and second Bush in 2000 and In over time last
interest in "Washington politics".I stopped voting.
Not a good idea under any circumstance, particularly
at present time.

This time we can not afford to stay on side lines and
let Washington remain the same.We can not afford our
Greatgreat Nation to become less than what we are and
can be.

We need to send clear and candid message to the world
and some 24 hour partisan poisonous hateful media.

These type of media outlets are trying to deprive,
dupe, and derail us from getting it right this time.

I pray and hope that we the American people won't be
part of this deception, seduction, and confusion.

These type of media and pundits are trying there best
to deny us better and replace our past remember some
of
our bitterness and differences. { "Our Greatgrand
Nations people are persistently and constantly
subjected to Psychological terrorism" without our
knowledge by these these poisonous hateful partisan
media outlets".

We Americans are should not and would not to allow
these type of media psychologically terrorized,
traumatized and silence us this time.Not this time.

I am sure that we will get it right this
time and elect Senator Obama our next President. let
us not get dragged down into racism, sexism and
ageism.

Let us remember that our Greatgrand is constituted of
family, friends,fellowships, faith, funds,foundations,
fun, and future with fairness and freedom and without
fear or favor.

We can not afford to lose any of above connections.
Let
us stand up, be counted, save, build our Greatgrand
Nation for decades to come and regain our world
economic, and power status back.

God Bless our Great grand Nation and its diverse
people.

Our Greatgrand nation needs present and future
stability, security, safety,sustained progress and
restoration of our due status in this perilous Global
World at the all levels.

Yours sincerely,

COL.[retd] A.M.Khajawall
Forensic Psychiatrist.
Disables American Veteran.
Las Vegas Nevada.


Posted by: COL.[retd]A.M.Khajawall | May 9, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

And the ageism continues. "Diaper-wearing". Very nice. Sophisticated. Definitely "different" and "hopeful".

I appreciate Dan's analysis and articulation of Obama's weakness. What are his priorities? It went from changing politics, to changing Washington, to changing the country to changing the world to healing my soul to . . .

But what exactly will he do in the first 100 days of office? What will his priorities be? I have no idea.

My suspicion is he will take the Obama tour world wide. I think he likes adoring fans more than governing. I hope I'm wrong.

(And he can take healing my soul off his list. Man does that assertion of Michele Obama's BUG me to no end.)

Posted by: ECHO2 | May 9, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

The "real" and "official" race has begun? Who cares about the 16,416,059 CERTIFIED votes cast for Hillary, huh?

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

What part of NO McAMNESTY did the GOP not understand?

Posted by: RAT-The | May 9, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Balz, I cannot emphasize enough how disappointed I am in the things that the RepubliCAN heir apparent has, and has NOT done, since the contenders so foolishly allowed "Independents" and Colluding factors to set us up with the Back-Stabber.

I DEMAND a Conservative RepubliCAN. Not a RINO who is out to grant Amnesties, and reward Cronies with Multi Billion dollar Land scams!

The GOP is committing Political Suicide with THIS Guy as our Choice!

He brings all the excitement of Monday Night at a Convalescent Home, to the Campaign! Small wonder, them and the local VA are his Base!

What is needed right now is a Businessman/Economist/Executive, NOT a War Mongering fool with a Dumb Mouth!

Mitt Romney needs to TAKE OVER, Not play second fiddle with for an Idiot Traitor!

Posted by: RAT-The | May 9, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Why wouldn't Cindy McCain release her tax records? How much money has that diaper wearing crook McCain stashed away in her accounts?

Posted by: playa | May 9, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

It is now officially Obama vs. McCain. The general has begun, no matter how much race-baiting Hillary takes part in and how much artificial controversy she stirs up.

On to November...

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | May 9, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

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