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Waiting for Clinton

By Eli Saslow
Sen. Hillary Clinton's own event in West Virginia tonight has become evidence that a win here registers only as an afterthought. As the polls closed at 7:30 p.m. and all of the major news networks declared Clinton the winner, supporters continued to file into her election-night rally, oblivious to the election itself.

No television in the downtown civic center showed a broadcast of the win. Nobody stepped to the podium to make an announcement. The few hundred supporters collected here mingled, bought drinks from a cash-bar and danced to music played over the loudspeakers. One supporter, anxious, looked up at a blank, big-screen television near the stage and asked a security guard, "Can we watch the results on there?"

More than 15 minutes passed before a campaign aid finally turned the television to CNN and results flashed across the screen. The crowd launched, surprised, cheered and launched into a belated "it's-not-over" chant.

The Clinton campaign itself is unlikely to celebrate until much later tonight, when polling stations calculate the margins of Clinton's victory, which has seemed predestined for the last several weeks. Will she win West Virginia by 90 percent of the vote, as one surrogate here predicted during an introduction speech? Seventy-five percent, as Clinton's most optimistic supporters guess? Sixty percent, as exit polling indicated?

And what margin, if any, will register as dominant enough?

By Post Editor  |  May 13, 2008; 8:57 PM ET
 
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They voted like 99%-1% in Gary, Indiana for Obambi....

99% to 1%

Who is Racist?

economically similar to many poor rural areas in West Virginia....


But nobody is calling Gary, Indiana the most racist city in the country...


Why do people attack whites who have been supporting Obambi to the tune of 44% of the white vote?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 14, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

California - Clinton's biggest win, would now vote for Obama instead of Clinton if they had a revote.

"California voters would change their February primary vote for Hillary Clinton to a vote for Barack Obama if the vote were held again.

While voters in the California Democratic Presidential Primary backed Clinton by a 10-point margin, a new SurveyUSA poll shows that if given the chance to vote again, Californians would choose Barack Obama by a 6-point margin, 49%-43%.

The poll was conducted on May 7 and 8 and has a margin of error of 4%."

Hillary has ruined the Clinton name out here in California.

Obama in 08!

Posted by: Sally | May 14, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

....do I have my $20mil back yet!?

I'm still waiting for you "loyalists" to pay me what you owe me for my hard work!

$20mil! Now, or else!!

Posted by: Hillary | May 14, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Hillary has proven herself to be the commander in chief we can count on to fight for middle America.
Posted by: Sherri

How has she proven that to you? She hasn't proven that to me.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 14, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Buyers remorse is showing for many in the party whether Obamabots see that or not! Hillary has proven herself to be the commander in chief we can count on to fight for middle America. Neither candidate will have the numbers without the supers, the RULES say the supers can choose any one they feel is best to win in the general so........by the rules she can win (not steal as you Obamabots try to imply)! I will leave the dem party if the supers do not get the spine up to do the right and best thing for the party. I don't want the unknown 20 minute senator with his black theology mindset and questionable relationships representing my party, nor does the party core! Only the elite liberals, blacks and the youth who treat this like America Idol want BO! Not enough to win the general folks.

Posted by: Sherri | May 14, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

How many ways can you say it is over?

1. Elvis is dead, no really, I know you spotted him in McDonald's in WV, but he really is dead.

2. If you keep campaigning like this you will give Bill another heart attack, but I know you love him and this is not your plan, right? I said, right?

3. You can't win while losing.

4. Winning is not in the eye of the beholder, you really are losing.

5. The remaining states have set up road blocks to keep your motorcade out.

6. Macy's is having a sale on pantsuits and scarf's in every possible color and variety, and if you hurry you can still make it.

7. Chelsea is too old to bring out the young voters on college campuses, they like Obama instead, yep...no...it is true...yep...so stop sending her there.

8. Just because you have checks in your checkbook does not mean you have spending money...put the Dunkin Donuts back, Bill. You too, Hillary, nope...you are broke, I said no more donuts...don't make me chase you!

9. Can't you just go home?

10. You don't get everything that you want out of life, no matter how you change the rules in the 4th inning.

11. If you drop out now, I promise to run interference when the bill collectors call.

12. Look, up at the sky, PIGS are flying! Sike! Made you look!

13. Don't attempt to adjust the TV...that really is Barack being sworn in.

14. It's over....It's over....It's over....no we don't want to look at any more fuzzy math...you can stop telling the SD to consider adding Mexico as the 51 state...it's so over.

15. Ok, you can come for visits at the White House, and Barack will let you sit in the BIG chair for a spell, won't that be fun? You can even twirl yourself around...and you can use the phone to make crank calls to Bill's new girlfriend.

16. We promise to elect you President of Fl and MI!

Posted by: Nena | May 14, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

P.P.S -- Sen. Rockefeller (D-WV) seems to be proud of his constiuents.

Posted by: JakeD | May 14, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

#1 Hey Ann Mochum,
Either you are a fanatic Repugnant/McCAIN SUPPORTER or you make > $200k in annual salary OR both!

Hillary is looking and sounding more like "Baghdad Bob" heading for the same end.
So Hillary won with ALL the Racist voters she has been wooing for the last two months - -
What - a - SURPRISE !!!!!!!
DID IT EVER OCCUR TO HRC and HER SUPPORTERS THAT WE INDEPENDANTS and SOME FORMER REPUBLICANS I KNOW OF, WILL NEVBER VOTE FOR THAT PHONY Hillary IF SHE SOMEHOW MANAGES TO STEAL THE NOMINATION FROM OBAMA ??!!
The shameless, bigoted MSM are GOING OUT OF THEIR WAY to ONLY FOCUS on the (racist) group of the electorate who WILL NEVER VOTE FOR AN AFR-AM MAN EVER!
GREAT JOB MSM !!

Posted by: Hussien for America | May 14, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Did the same, exact thing happen to the Obama campaign when North Carolina was called the moment the polls closed? While I agree it's too bad the Clinton campaign hasn't learn that PR lesson yet, what's the big deal?

P.S. -- only Obama and God Himself "know" whether the candidate's a Christian.

Posted by: JakeD | May 14, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Can Hillary truly feel proud of her successful courtship of racists in West Virginia?

Can other Americans?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 14, 2008 7:27 AM | Report abuse

Kinda hard to celebrate the win by racists who consider Obama a muslim when we all know he is a christian. How do these people reconcile their faith with their bigotry?

It's a sad commentary for America in 2008 to know that racism is still so prevalent and encouraged by the Clintons.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 14, 2008 3:30 AM | Report abuse

To the media and to Americans in general, please, let this be the last Hoorah for the KKK and let no candidate who has to go to them ever think they can be a viable leader in 21st century America.

Hillary has so much as referred to West Virginians as buffoons and to them, I guess, that's OK as long as they perceive that she is one of "them."

This sad pocket of people who represent remnants of bigotry, race hate, and social and economic insecurities will always make themselves available for manipulation by politicians who need only say to them, "Look at me, I'm one of you." Nothing more, and sufficient for Hillary, "A win is a win."

William Jefferson Clinton and Hillary Rodham Clinton, the WV campaign made you expose your true selves and you have returned to the roots from which you grew.

From here on, you must dance with the ones who brung you but 21st century America has no need for either of you.

For all of this, you, and those like you, at least deserve a good night.

Posted by: Reggie Boykins | May 14, 2008 2:52 AM | Report abuse

This is an email I just sent to Larry King Live:

You keep talking about Clinton wanting to change the rules, but you only seem to acknowledge the rules that benefit Obama. Here's a rule for ya - the DNC has NO say over VOTES. The votes in MI and FL were certified by the secretaries of states and they DO count. The agreement that the candidates signed with the DNC said that they would not campaign in MI and FL, NOT that those votes would not count. READ THE AGREEMENT PLEASE.

Yes, Obama was not on the ballot, but HE voluntarily removed his name from the ballot, unlike Clinton and Obama supporter, Dodd. To use your guest's analogy, in a high school election, when a candidate voluntarily removes his name - he loses.

Here's another rule for the "rules is rules" argument - neither of them can win the nomination without super delegates, and they CAN decide based upon the popular vote, and there's a VERY good chance she can still win that. They can also decide on who they think is the best person to run on behalf of the party - that's why super delegates were created. THOSE TOO ARE EXAMPLES OF RULES.

I really wish y'all would stop trying to influence this election based upon your biased spin and skewed, incomplete facts - it underminds democracy. It seems that journalists have become mere pundits, and it's very disappointing. Luckily, the public isn't totally buying it or she wouldn't be getting so very many votes.

This is the closest presidential primary in modern history. She deserves respect, as do her supporters and voters - NOT to be constantly dismissed so that CNN can pimp their favorite candidate.

. . .

Oh, and the reason so many Clinton supporters have reservations about voting for Obama is that they have been treated with ZERO respect by the Obama supporters, including the DNC and the media. Why would we vote for someone who does not appear to value our votes?

The nastier Obama supporters and surrogates and the media are to the candidate WE BELIEVE IN, the more turned off to Obama we become - it's only simple cause and effect for Pete's sake. You can't spit all over someone and expect them to respect and support you.

. . .

Oh! Now I hear you saying people who don't suport Obama are racist! Great! That's really helping Obama's cause! Maybe we just think a guy who had a part time job as a state senator for 8 yrs and 1 yr. in the senate before he started campaigning for president isn't the most qualified to run a country in crisis on a number of fronts. Good grief! I keep asking myself how low can you possibly sink, and there seems to be no bottom!

Posted by: Teri B. | May 14, 2008 1:11 AM | Report abuse

The chickens will come to roost in November when Clinton supporters jump to McCain. This is not a bluff. many of us are already on board McCain's "straight talk express". That the progressive wing would bash a legitimate candidate, and former first lady, with such ferocity, means this is not a party I want to be part of. Say what you will of McCain but Kerry wanted him as his '04 veep and is close to Kennedy. Sometimes I think that Kerry and Kennedy, want McCain to win otherwise why would they get the party behind a less than mediocre Obama who believes there are 57 states.

Posted by: Scott D | May 14, 2008 12:49 AM | Report abuse

Hillary mostly outperform the poll.

This time, she must have earned popularity votes by six digits.

Posted by: John_Lai | May 13, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Now, let's turn our attention to the "Truth About McCain". Did you know he called his wife a "c*&nt"?

Those are SOME family values!

http://truth-about-mccain.blogspot.com

http://truth-about-mccain.blogspot.com/2008/05/mccain-declines-to-deny-calling-his.html

Posted by: francislholland | May 13, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Clinton diehards will be waiting a LONG time for her to win....at least 8 years! ;)

Posted by: Franky | May 13, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

It's starting to look more like a "Big Tent" for rent. Where is this firesale going on at, OPRAH"S?

Posted by: 1ahead | May 13, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

RAT, are you God? :-)

Posted by: rob | May 13, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Uh, rob-You might be right.

But be aware it is "Impostor RAT's" Posterior he is searching! ;~)

FYI-In answer to "Your" Question above, No, just his personal representative!

Posted by: RAT-The | May 13, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

The Clintons must understand that No person or family was "Born to Rule"in the USA.....The perfidious finks were solely responsible for taking democrats back to the future of race politics in American Politics.......they may have just unwittingly served their daughter Chelsea her political lunch long before her political breakfast was due....

Posted by: red27 | May 13, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Dear RAT-The:
I think it's Obama's head up there looking for Michael Sinclair.

Posted by: rob | May 13, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Finally, it shows who is adored as an American President in the mind of the core of the Democrats.If Democrats have to win in the general Election, I guess the Superdelegates have to think seriously who should be the nominee. Remember no candidate could win the general election if he could not win Ohio, Texas, West Virginia, Pennsylvania.

Posted by: rapa | May 13, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

At this point, demographics are a better predictor than polls.

Obama's right to conserve his cash. Everyone knows who he is, and who Hillary is. Ads are largely a waste of time and money.

Posted by: gbooksdc | May 13, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Ohhh LOL! :-D

I notice "Harried" and the Impostor are never seen at the same time!

Posted by: RAT-The | May 13, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

I like to tickle my anal pore with a feather while I blog. I pitch a Big Tent.

Then, I touch myself while licking the frame of a Teddy Roosevelt Photograph I have.

He was the Original "Rough Rider" you know. I heard he loved the big Game. I got a Big Game for him...

It's called "Guess what I'm hiding in my anus". It's easy to play. I go to the bathroom and come back and you have to guess what I put up there. If you don't guess it right within 3 Chances, you have to fish it out with your fingers.

That means "I WIN !"

: )

Posted by: RAT-The | May 13, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Clinton Moderates are always welcome in the Big Tent!

But, it seems, it is time to head that way, or like mindless Lemmings, jump off the Left Cliff with the rest!

Posted by: RAT-The | May 13, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

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