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Voters weigh in on their presidential picks during the West Virginia primary Tuesday, where Sen. Hillary Clinton is favored to win big on the Democratic ballot. (Video by the Associated Press.)

By Web Politics Editor  |  May 13, 2008; 11:27 AM ET
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W.Va. exit polls show division among Dems

Almost as many of Hillary DIANE Clinton's West Virginia supporters would vote for John SIDNEY McCain as would for Barack HUSSEIN Obama in November, exit polls show. A big win for Clinton in the state today could raise doubts about Obama's electability. full story: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/13/wv.primary/index.html

Posted by: JakeD | May 13, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

derek,

Yes, voting for someone who has diametrically opposite views from the candidate you support is a GREAT way of running our democracy. Way to stick it to 'em. Hope it all turns out well for you.

Posted by: Nuffsaid | May 13, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Predicated upon my observations the entire American liberal Press, not limited to but rather including personally ambitious T.V. commentators ,are collectively suffering the serious political pariphillia of premature political ejaculation!They have stated the opinion and now their collectively stuck with it!How embarrassing for the elitist with hugh enormous brains! It must be difficult to haul these monsters around everyday The war for this nomination is far from over! When the election math numbers are as close as they presently exhibit; super delegates realize that each candidates constituency is vitally necessary to capture if the democrats intend to capture the white house in the fall! One cannot win without the other!

Posted by: H.L. Mencken | May 13, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Hillary campaign said she will drop out when Obama wins a majority of the delegates. With him needing around 150 at this point and maybe a little more than 200 if FL and MI are included. Obama picking up delegates at 5 per day, it would forty days. John Edwards support would cut it to 37 days. All of this assumes no escalation in new delegates after May 21 and after June 3.

Hillary fought hard but Obama represented the electorate better. She had a winning plan for herself, Obama had a winning plan for himelf and the party. So he won.

She deserves the opportunity to play until the clock runs out unless the super-delegates end it before then. Obama is a better candidate because of Clinton and though that was not her purpose, it needs to be remembered.

Obama has not lost his focus on Nov and we should not either. Clinton is no longer an obstacle and demonizing her only angers her supporters. As Barack said so clumsily with his bitter comments, angry and bitter voters vote Republican. We don't need to generate more Republicans.

Posted by: Gator-ron | May 13, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

As a republican i have to say i love Hillary Clinton and all the old women of west virginia that are going to vote Mccain to prove a point. I almost feel sorry for democrats but how do you feel sorry for such fools....Clinton is going to give us a victory that we had no chance of winning thanks again Hillary and please don't leave the race

Posted by: derek | May 13, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

mbvision,
are you serious? Even rich people feel the hurt of losing 11 million dollars...no matter how you look at it that's a lot of dough. And did you go to Harvard? How do you know what "Harvard material" is? and what is that supposed to mean "some kind of minority quota.." what kind of mess is that to say? I believe he not only went to Harvard but did very well (at or near the top of his class AND he was the President of one of his groups, I can't think which one right now but it was like the young lawyers group or something). And that's the point, it's not Barack or his supporters that have brought race into this thing it HRC and her supporters. First by calling him a Muslim (which people still do for some reason, even after the Rev. Wright thing). Now, I don't really like any of the candidates and I don't mind HRC so much as I mind the fact that in the last 20 years we have had 12 years of Bush (Senior and Dubya) and 8 years of Clinton, do we really need the last quarter century of the same families running things? Bush didn't run this country into the ground all by himself let's not act like everything Billy Clint touched turned to gold. I think it's time for some new blood, fresh ideals and new faces (whether that is Obama or Ron Paul or whoever, accept for McCain sheesh). But we have been concentrating and bickering so much on race, and flag lapels, and old war hero stories and trips to Bosnia when none of that crap even matters and that's what the shame is

Posted by: Deeze | May 13, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

"However, several important Democrats aligned with Obama predicted that he -- and Michelle Obama -- will vigorously resist any Clinton effort to get on the ticket. Rather, Obama is more likely to try to convince Clinton to either stay in the Senate or accept another position in an Obama administration, should he win the presidency."

This is the kind of stuff that makes me seriously doubt Obama. For gosh sakes man: grow a pair and tell your wife it is business. The nominating race was way too close. If Clinton is not VP, you risk losing a good number of voters in the fall. I have no doubt that if Clinton won she would given Obama the VP.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 13, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Hillary has proved to be a great fighter. She has demonstrated that she can fight on even in the face of insurmountable odds. She has a great plan, she is an articulate speaker (some times with a few exaggerations which is very common with many women), and she represents majority of the American people. She should fight on all the way to the convention floor and who knows she just might get lucky there once all the delegates see what a flake Obama is (change we can live with, what does it mean? I wonder how he went to Harvard, some kind of minorty quota, sorry to say from what I haven seen his responses in the debates or talk shows, he is definitely not Harvard material!). And she does not need any condescending hand outs from Obama or any one for that matter to pay off her debt. She can afford to write off that amount and then some. When Bill left the white house, he was in a enormous financial boondoggle with all those legal fees he had to pay for his defence in those numerous hearings. But during the next 8 years or so Bill and Hillary not only cleared all those debts and reported over $120 million income. As long as they are healthy, they can recoup all that amount with in a matter of months. Even if she looses the nomination, Hillary can write a book what has really gone wrong in her presidential bid, and Bill can double his lobbying efforts trotting around the globe. Don't ever underestimate the Clintons, they are survivors!!

Posted by: mbvision | May 13, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Will Obama supporters help pay down Clinton's $20 million debt?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080513/ap_on_el_pr/clinton_debt

Posted by: JakeD | May 13, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Hillary is setting the stage to exit the presidential race on May 21st.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/05132008/news/nationalnews/obama_aims_for_nov_110650.htm

If Hillary comes out of West Virginia with only a net of 6 or 8 pledged delegates and Obama comes out with a net of 6 superdelegates combined with her losing both Kentucky and Oregon on May 20th, Hillary will end her presidential campaign on May 21st.

Hillary is currently $20 million in debt with her debt growing at a rate of $235,000 per day. If Hillary waits until June 10th to end her campaign she will add another $5 million of debt to her campaign.

Posted by: AJ | May 13, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

matt:

Her net gain of up to 10 delegates today may be analogous to rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic -- so, if that's all you are saying, fine -- but it is still 10 delegates.

Posted by: JakeD | May 13, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

WV does nothing for Hillary's position on the delegate/superdelegate race. Most SD's realize what little impact today's race will have and are rightly ignoring it. But whites already hostile to Obama and an amped-up press will only see a 30 point loss for the presumptive nominee. And the Clinton camp will bask in that result as long as it lasts.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | May 13, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Republicans, are you Happy about Juan McAmnesty's stances? His Gaffes? His AGE? His ignorance about Business and Economics?

There is an awakening going on. It is being shown in Primary results.

Vote! Make your views be heard.

Texas has already had it's Primary, and as such, I can only make my voice heard at this Liberal Rag that Ex'ed my account because I made La Raza Mad(er). Or, it might have been the typical Loser libbies like Move Kos On.
In any event, WaPo IS Biased, or Gullible-neither is anything to brag about.

BUT, back to the Point-Vote Republicans. Show the fools running the GOP that we are NOT sold on McCain.

Personally, I want Mitt Romney. McCain should have been the VP! If that.

The Country has a Military that is already very effective. What we are lacking(BADLY), is good solid Business and Economic Sensibilities and Direction.

Obama, is NOT the answer. He wants to Tax Capital Gains into the Third World. Way NOT to get investments there "Barry"!

Mittster, would call for NO Taxes on ANY Capital Gains for Incomes below $300K. Not only would that encourage investing across the Board, it would immediately STOP the insipid and Moronic Waiver on houses "Flipped" within two years that has already caused so much damage it is not even remotely funny!-Arranged by the Clintons! BTW!

Show the direction wanted! McCain's idiocy is too easily hijacked! His moronic catering to La Raza...

Bill Richardson as "Barry" Insane O'Bomba-Nation's Veep, would Steal every last one of that crowd!

While the Moron McCain cost himself ALL of my support doing it!

I DEMAND a Candidate who WILL Enforce our Labor and Immigration Laws!

Over Half of all Immigrants being here Illegally...

Well Mr. McCain you National Security Poser, THAT is the BIGGEST Threat I could ever imagine!

And, Capitulation to the Invasion, well, I'd call that SURRENDER!

In all the remaining Primaries-VOTE Republicans!

Posted by: RAT-The | May 13, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous at 12:42 PM:

Can she win in November if 92% of African-Americans vote for McCain?

Posted by: JakeD | May 13, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

"People vote their own interest. Regardless what happens, Democrats will vote democrat."

I only agree to a point. The nomination fight was too tight and tough and whether the Obama people want to admit it or not, they said things that angered alot of Democratic voters. The way to solve the issue is a joint ticket. Obama-bots recoil in horror at the mere suggestion, but I ask you what is better: a joint-ticket or defeat in November? You have to remember that McCain will run strong with Hispanic voters (he always has in AZ) and independents. He will also do very well among working class whites who Obama-freaks insult daily. Obama will not pull Republicans in the general. Think about it. They almost always vote on Morals issues. They think McCain is too liberal, but compared to Obama he is a paragon of conservatism. Hillary, being way more moderate than Obama, can correct some of these deficiencies. Her selection will also unite the party. Obama people need to remember: you may despise Hillary, but 50% of Democrats really dislike Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 13, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Anyone want to make any guesses why Clinton is still running?

I say it's either to save face, given her claims that she's "in it til there's a nominee" or...

Clinton Deadline Looms for Recouping $11 Million Personal Loan
http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20080512/pl_bloomberg/as5a58ks7ky8

or perhaps...
Hillary Agonistes
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/13/AR2008051300826.html

Posted by: jencm | May 13, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

It is a folly to believe the divided democrats will rally with Obama. I will not. I have seen his campaign of pointing fingers and crying wolf when he has a problem. People are smart, media led us to war, media is leading us to a hopeless point of no return. I will not fall for it.

Posted by: AB | May 13, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Memo to Hillary: Than Klan vote is not going to save you.

Posted by: gmundenat | May 13, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Why are uneducated and pooe WV people voting against hope?

Because hope is an empty word. They want solution.

Nothing about race. Even poorset cling to selfpreservation.

Posted by: Betsy | May 13, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

I was thinking about this bitter comment that people are still hammering Obama on....why is it that when Senator Clinton made those comments to ABC about hard-working Americans, white Americans, and wrote those off as a poor choice of words it was accepted as such. However, when Senator Obama used "bitter" instead of "angry/frustrated" and "cling" instead of "rely on", Senator Clinton pounced on them and labeled him as an elitist. Senator Obama's poor choice of words no more make him an elitist who looks down on small-town people than Senator Clinton's make her a racist who looks down on African Americans?? Both their RECORDS indicate clearly the opposite of elite (Obama) and racist (Clinton) right?

Posted by: SMS | May 13, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous at 12:12 PM:

Sources from Gallup to TIME magazine cite polling that significant percentages of Obama and Clinton supporters will NOT vote for their opponent in November. Do you need "links"?

Posted by: JakeD | May 13, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

AJ:

I don't believe that all the remaining primaries and Super Delegates will all vote like West Virginia -- who will make the stronger candidate against McCain has to be a consideration though -- good luck "limiting" political pundits too ; )

Posted by: JakeD | May 13, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

People vote their own interest. Regardless what happens, Democrats will vote democrat.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 13, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

The old saying:

How do you remember your original objective was to drain the swamp when you are up to your 'fanny' in alligators????

Clinton, and those of us supporting her, know she IS focused on the present FOR REAL REASONS i.e., problems that MUST be dealt with, very directly and right now!

Obama comes to us with "ignore the alligators, they are a mirage", don't focus on the present, look to the FUTURE .....HOPE your way out of the swamp.

Nomination to Clinton, for OUR sake...our being AMERICA, unqualified by racial references....we are all in here together folks!

Vote CLINTON '08

Posted by: Sean McM | May 13, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

So based on your comments JakeD and fortnight...all the remaining primaries and superdelegates should vote like West Virginia?!?! Voting like one of the poorest and least educated states in the country is what America should aspire to?

Just because one Hillary's (but really Bill Clinton's) voting bloc in West Virginia majorly favors her over Obama does not mean they will favor McCain over Obama in the general election.

If Obama can get 40 to 45% of the West Virginia vote, he can limit the Hillary camp and political pundits talking point about Obama's support among "working-class white" voters.

Posted by: AJ | May 13, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

fortnight:

I appreciate what you are saying but, seriously, how can she win in November if 92% of the African-American vote goes to McCain? At this point, even I have to admit Obama is the Dems' best shot.

Posted by: JakeD | May 13, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Hillary will win the popular vote in this primary, but it will be a few hundred left wing activists who will seal the deal for obama, resulting in a new kind of democracy, that in which preferential treatment reigns supreme over logic.

Posted by: fortnight | May 13, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Sen. Hillary DIANE Clinton is favored to win big on the Democratic ballot (Emphasis Added).

Posted by: JakeD | May 13, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

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