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Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) greets supporters as she arrives at her Puerto Rico primary night party June 1, 2008, in San Juan, Puerto Rico. (Getty Images)

By Jon Cohen
Preliminary results from a CNN exit poll of 1,545 Democratic primary voters in Puerto Rico show that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton won voters across the board there -- voters in each age, education and income category, both male and female -- even as women made up just 49 percent of the electorate, a lower percentage than in any previous nominating contest.

The average across Democratic primaries has been 58 percent female.

Sen. Barack Obama beat Clinton only among those voters who have a favorable view of Gov. Anibal Acevedo-Vilas, who endorsed the Illinois senator. Obama won these voters narrowly, 53 to 47 percent, but only 34 percent held positive views of their embattled governor. Obama lost the approximately two-thirds of Puerto Rican voters holding negative views of their governor by a 4 to 1 margin.

Clinton's better than 2 to 1 overall margin in Puerto Rico is in line with how she has done among Hispanic Catholics across all primaries so far: she won them 69 to 29 percent. Among all Hispanics, Clinton has outpaced Obama 61 to 35 percent in all previous contests with exit polls.

Clinton won the 83 percent of Democratic primary voters with a favorable view of former president Bill Clinton by better than 3 to 1.

As it has been stateside, the economy was again the top issue -- six in 10 called it the country's most pressing issue. Clinton won nearly three-quarters of "economy voters." Iraq was a distant second at 25 percent, and Obama did better among these voters than among those prioritizing either the economy or health care. More than eight in 10 voters said they disapprove of the war in Iraq.

About eight in 10 said Clinton could improve life on the island; only half said so of Obama.

Six in 10 said Puerto Rico should be a state; 35 percent said it should remain a commonwealth and 4 percent want it to be an independent country.

Matching the previous high (n Mississippi), 31 percent of voters said race was a factor in their vote. But those who said race was part of their voting calculus were somewhat less apt to vote for Clinton than were those who said race was not a factor.

Only 49 percent said they would be satisfied with Obama as the party's nominee; 55 percent said they would vote for him over McCain in the fall, if they were given a vote.

NOTE: Edison-Mitofsky conducted this exit poll exclusively for CNN; the other networks did not participate. These data may change as actual votes are tallied. The poll's margin of sampling error is approximately plus or minus four percentage points.

Posted at 6:08 PM ET on Jun 1, 2008  | Category:  The Pollster
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Hillary, Obarma hates you and what you stand for.
The offer of running for V P is a sign of desperation. Don't even think about it. A political marriage of convenience is sleeping with the enemy!

Posted by: Mike Clarke | June 4, 2008 9:03 PM

John Carter,

I can't believe you used integrity and Clinton's in the same sentence hilarious! I totally agree, Hillary stay away from Obama and keep you and your husbands baggage in New York. I couldn't agree more. The time for change is now! The rightwing establishment and the uneducated people who are constantly fooled by their lies and spin are the one's that suffer, but they would rather be destitute and one pay check away from poverty than to see anything different from what their pathetic lives have been custom too.

Posted by: TheGiftedOne | June 4, 2008 2:43 PM

Dear Hillary, The suggestion that you be Obarma's running mate is a bad one.
Keep your integrity intact. Stay away from Obarma!

Posted by: John Carter | June 3, 2008 10:50 PM

Dear TheGiftedOne,

People who point out the real Obarma are Rightwing. People who are gullible must be middlewing. They can't be leftwing.

Posted by: June Fellow | June 3, 2008 10:48 PM

Dear Hillary, The suggestion that you be Obarma's running is a bad one. Keep your integrity intact. Stay away from Obarma!

Posted by: John Carter | June 3, 2008 10:35 PM

Dr Arthur Frederick
Obama isn't a polarizing figure. It's the rightwing media and some of the supporters of the Clintons who attempted to paint him as an anti-American Muslim. Hillary Clinton's problem is that she herself was surrounded by polarizing people on her staff and unfortunately that cost her nomination. It strikes me as odd that Hillary Clinton supporters want to start to change the rules regarding the democratic process. This has always been about pledged delegates don't turn this into a popular vote argument because if you count Florida and the Caucus votes she still wouldn't win the popular vote. Don't be bitter with Obama, you should focus you hostility on Hillary's poor choice of campaign strategy. I would think a Dr. would know that. **Phoney**

FYI... Those of you running to McCain in November do the real Dem's a favor and stay there you bunch of uneducated RNKS!

Posted by: TheGiftedOne | June 3, 2008 6:58 PM

Charles H
In case you haven't noticed the Country has been headed for self destruction for the past eight years. What world do you people live in? Stop hiding behind spin.

Posted by: TheGiftedOne | June 3, 2008 6:47 PM

Barack Obama is the most polarizing person I have ever known or studied. He has irrepairably divided the Democratic Party, and will destroy the USA if he is the Democratic nominee and wins the election. A man of unbridled hatred, whose wife proudly proclaimed she was never proud to be an American at any time during her adult life, and whose friend (the priest Flegler) and pastor (Wright) have damned anyone who supports the Clintons. Yet the Clintons have done more for charities and minorities than any other political candidate. A vote for Obama is a vote for self-destruction. As a lifelong Democrat and former chair of the Hardin Iowa Democratic Party I have vowed never to vote for Obama, as anyone is better than he is.

Posted by: Dr Arthur Frederick Ide | June 3, 2008 12:52 PM

Obarmar's racial background is not an issue. His political background is.
For all his life, he has been advocating divisive and radical views. He
now conveniently claims he is a born again moderate. Can you trust him?
No way!

We have every reason to feel scary about Obarma. If he became the president
of the only superpower in the world, he might very well undo all the good
work done by America and its allies against terrorism. People who gave their
lives for this noble cause would have died in vain. What he believes is inconsistent
with the well beings of America. The future is so uncertain.

He promises to fix our economy, our social problems, our health problems
and any other problems you care to name, as if he is holding a magic wand.
These are promises, not policies. Talk is cheap. If you love to hear promises,
an unscrupulous used car salesman can do a much better job. How is he going
to deliver his promises? Where are the details? What is his action plan?
He should put all his cards on the table for public scrutiny and debate.
That will never happen because he hasn't got a clue.

Don't let the Polls fool you. Say "NO!" to Obarma and the poll will go your
way.

Please! Please! Do your part and save our country from going down the road
of self-destruction.


Posted by: Charles H | June 2, 2008 11:57 PM

Mccain's wife a wealthy rich and Classy women adopted an African child from third world country before all these famous actors have done. They have shown in their action unlike BHO who only speaks, hardly contributed to any charity and still complain about the college loans . The country will proud to have her as a first lady than a whining woman and a war hero with an independent thinking as a president. His son serves as a Marine in Iraq. Not electing him will be a mistake and electing this inexperienced and a candidate with questionable association would result further more problems. Do not insult a person who has served the country even if you do not want to vote for him.

Posted by: neytral | June 2, 2008 10:28 PM

What are you all talking about? Hillary Clinton has blatantly lied to the American general public! Do you remember her comments on her supposed landing under sniper fire in Bosnia 12 years ago? So much for that experience.

Furthermore, the way I see it, the only reason why she cares about Florida and Michigan is because their votes help her. If Obama and Clinton's delegate totals were switched, you can bet she wouldn't want their votes counted. I can't believe the rules and bylaws committee is even counting Michigan.

Even though I personally don't care for Hillary Clinton, I can say in all honesty that I believe her to be a brilliant woman. Having sad that, I prefer Obama over her because Obama has run a much better campaign. Why does that matter? If Obama can get people to work together as a cohesive unit, then that bodes well for his ability to run a country. Clinton, for all her brilliance, has run a campaign marked with controversy and blatant lies.

Posted by: Nick R. | June 2, 2008 9:21 PM

Less than 10% of Puerto Ricans bothered
to vote. Bill Clinton pardoned Puerto Rican terrorist that killed American citizens. Did the same for Weather Underground members.

Hillary Clinton promised statehoood.
That's the only way Puerto Rico could vote
in the general election

Posted by: MrUniteUs | June 2, 2008 5:12 PM

Barack Obama = Nancy Pelosi = John Kerry

Clinton > McCain >>>>>>>>>>>> NObama

Because

God > Country >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANY Political Party

Posted by: Brent | June 2, 2008 4:36 PM

Why is experience so important? Dubya had 4 years of experience when he was re-appointed President--did that help him?

I'd rather have someone inexperienced but reliable, honest, and able to build consensus instead of someone who has experience but keeps making mistake after mistake after mistake.

I don't blame Obama for what his preacher said, but I do blame Hillary for what she says. How do you mistake being shot at by snipers?

The Republicans would LOVE it if Hillary got the nomination. She's a much bigger, easier target for their crap.

Posted by: Hiram | June 2, 2008 4:13 PM

Do not blame republicans or democrats for your mistakes. You always had had the choice to vote an elect a president that will take USA out this mess. You have the opportunity to vote for a smart democrat this past presidential election but you choose four more years of bush. Now you have the opportunity to choose Hilary Clinton who's capable, well prepare, has all the experience needed to run this country. Hilary, a woman that has always cares for our need, but instead you are electing 'Obama' a man without experience, that do not care who he have to disposal in other to get what he wants!!!! People what is going on!!!! you do not read news or watch TV. In reality I do not think he will never get to the white house. This opinion is not base on him being Black, Red, Yellow, Spanish, women, or man. Nor on racism but base in latest events that are not even worth to mention. The best choice is Hilary. She will beat McCain any day. But as always 'We' the American people chose wrong to later lament for our wrong choices. I just hope the super delegates gets enlighten and chose right. This will be our last hope!!!!!

Posted by: Jbfree2008 | June 2, 2008 3:56 PM

I don't understand why the Clinton campaign is raising all these red herrings:

* Michigan and Florida knew that they were breaking party rules when they changed the dates of their primaries, and they went ahead and did it anyway. Now the Clintons are claiming that their votes "haven't been counted" as if it was some sort of covert conspiracy to deny them.

* All Democratic candidates agreed to not campaign in those two states, and BHO even removed his name from the ballot. Now HRC wants to include her "win" in a state where she said she wouldn't campaign.

* HRC supporters are blaming sexism and a male-dominated hierarchy as the reasons she is so far behind in the campaign. How are Men Who Hate Women able to influence the vote? They can't. The Clinton campaign is grasping at any straw they can reach to comfort themselves in this, their time of defeat. And I'll tell you right now, a candidate who points fingers and says "My sad lot is someone else's fault" is not someone I'd vote for.

It's not so much that BHO is so great, it's that HRC has run such a bad campaign. All BHO has to do now is sit tight and he'll get the Democratic nomination.

I can hardly wait to see how McCain handles the debates this fall.

Posted by: Skip | June 2, 2008 3:43 PM

Obama has lost most primaries since March 2nd or 3rd. What is striking to me is, the more people have gotten to see of Obama, the less they like him. We had a long, long time to see Hillary. Obama was an infatuation & like a spouse married in haste, we will repent in leisure if he is elected. NObama for me!!!

Posted by: MJ | June 2, 2008 2:35 PM

Obama will never make it! Not this time anyway. I maybe thought with Hillary on the ticket as VP would do it, but now I know that wouldnt happen either. White people will never vote for a black man for president. Saying they will and going in the booth and doing it, will never happen, in this election. The Mexicans do not like Obama either, most Mexicans do not like black people, that is just honesty. Lets change the rules and bring Arnold from California in the race. I think he would make a great president!

Posted by: Big Tex | June 2, 2008 2:04 PM

There is on problem with Obama. Turn out the lights let him run the country then he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. However, turn the lights back on and he's a black man.
Fact: People are afraid of what they don't know. All my life I have had to assimilate. I had to study how to make it in a white world. The problem with most white people is black people are so not important to them so they refuse to do a little homework and figure out what make the person tick as a black person......Why do you think they haven't stopped Obama because they haven't taken time to know what makes him tick as a person wow how sad.

Posted by: Greg | June 2, 2008 1:47 PM

I don't know why there is a primary in Puerto Rico when its residents can not vote in the general election. Senator Clinton just inherited this area from her husband. Analysis indicates she had majority vote becuase of the brand name.

Posted by: Nga | June 2, 2008 1:35 PM

So funny some of you believe Republicans would not handle another Katrina well. Just so funny! How bad the world could be if McCain is elected? He probably would do very good job after all. None of us would regret we backed McCain against Obama. Can't wait to vote for McCain in general election and see Obama fails.

Posted by: tiger | June 2, 2008 1:30 PM

hilary is the only one that can beat mccain. obama will be shown to be just another windbag with zero experience who will do whatever it takes to get nominated but will only get votes from blacks,college students that have been brainwashed by their professors and those that feel he will be easier to manipulate. that works out to about 40%.

Posted by: howard | June 2, 2008 12:59 PM

TO jan:
Hillary did NOT United me, and I am a woman!

The more I see her in the rise the more I afraid of ending up with another - Bushy-Clinton in the White House. Who will be the next for the president, you are, Americans, will choose? Chelsea Clinton? For to be sure that we have a dynasty in the White House?

I AM RATHER TO HAVE IT BLACK! BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL! BLACK IS SEXY! OK! At least, BLACK - IS INTELLIGENT!
I AM tired and sick of yours stupid choices! White is dumb! Do not you all see it?
I am not a black, so, keep yours racial comments to yourself!
I am just a person who is TIRED OF A STUPIDITY!

Posted by: monnalitta | June 2, 2008 12:49 PM

I agree with Hill Billy. And the person calling him or her a racist should be ashamed of themselves.

Does anyboby remember the last election??? That's when the worst president in U.S. history defeated a decorated war hero!

You may not like Republicans, but they sure know how to win (or steal) an election.

People can hype Barrack Obama all they want, but he simply can't defeat the Republican machine.

One thing I have to aree with, Obama will unite the country - When he loses, Democrats will be doing what the Republicans have been doing for 8 years: Blame everything on the Clintons.

Posted by: Red State Randy | June 2, 2008 12:46 PM

Clinton's Wounding - Broad and Deep

Posted by: NewTitle | June 2, 2008 12:41 PM

First let me give a congratulations to Obama he is winning and all of
You that or democrats" in November if you don't vote you
Deserve what ever you get I'm not sorry that Hillary Clinton is losing
But if the democrats do not stick together and we have another Katrina
Every last one of you that did not vote fora will be at fuat
One last word go Obama we need you.

Posted by: Xavier Wheaton | June 2, 2008 12:39 PM

Hill Billy - you sound pretty racist! wow.

Replace the word "Obama" with "HRC" and you may be more spot on.

Truthfully, Obama is a uniter. Hillary is a divider. She is able to unite women, but that's about it. A lot of democrats hate her and feel like she is now giving Bill a bad name. She can definitely unite - the GOP. If there is one thing they will vote against, it is HRC. The GOP is shaking in their war boots about Obama because he is getting so much support and money from the average person across this country. That translates into a lot of funds for his campaign, and VOTES in November.

Sorry dude... YES WE WILL.

Posted by: jan | June 2, 2008 12:33 PM

After reading many of these comments I understand why race relations are still an issue in this Country. Many of you claiming you're scared of Obama or that you would vote for any black man other than Obama is rubbish. I don't understand how many of you are afraid of Obama but wasn't afraid to cast a vote for an uneducated, mentally challenged war monger in office for a second term now that's what I call scary!

Posted by: TheGiftedOne | June 2, 2008 12:33 PM

WOW! This country is so divided. While we all enjoy fredom of speach some of the comments here are so hate filled. Can't we discuss things with each other in a constructive way rather than being so hateful of others views? I believe we all realize our country has taken some wrong turns and our standing in the world community has been damaged. We, the citizen voters are reaponsible for electing our governing officials and only we the voters can change who represents us. If you are against abortion, how about actuaally voting for someone who will work for ending abortion, if you're for war, vote for someone you think will keep us in war, etc.. Personally, I believe our nation is in very serious trouble and I don't believe any of the candidates are a good choice. Our only hope, Jesus Christ will soon return and set up HIS kingdom. Then and only then will peace and love regin in the world. My prayer is that you all find peace in your hearts and learn to talk about and discuss ideas and opinions with each other in a civil, humane way.
God bless you and God bless the U.S.A.

Posted by: Steven | June 2, 2008 12:25 PM

First let me give a congratulations to Obama he is winning and all of
You that or democrats" in November if you don't vote you
Deserve what ever you get I'm not sorry that Hillary Clinton is losing
But if the democrats do not stick together and we have another carina
Every last one of you that did not for Obama will be at fiat
One last word go Obama we need you.

Posted by: Xavier Wheaton | June 2, 2008 12:24 PM

If Obama really cared about this country he would drop out of the race and back Hillary Clinton.
This is because he has no chance of winning the general election. By staying in the race he will give the Republicans the win, which will further destroy this country.
Many may point out all the votes he has recieved, but these votes were placed before it was revealed what type of people he associates with. If the primaries were to start over, he would'nt win any state.
The Republicans are jumping with joy that Obama is ahead, they have even been encouraged to vote for Obama in the Democratic primaries by they're God - Rush Limbaugh.
The Clintons have done a lot for the African American population - too bad most have betrayed them now. They will suffer the most by the Republican policies extending 4 more years.
It's not just the people the Obama assocites that will bring him down, it will also be his supporters. An example: When you see the video of the priest making a fool out of himself by imitating Hillary crying, look at the Obama supporters in the backgrong jumping up and down clapping their hands and cheering. This behavior is what will be the deciding factor in the voting booth.
God help us.

Posted by: Hill Billy | June 2, 2008 12:18 PM

Republicans everywhere: SHAME ON YOU!! You guys put us into this mess in the first place. Just be glad there are educated democrats to bail you out of your redneck war games. You should not even be allowed to vote!! LETS RAISE YOUR TAXES SO WE CAN PAY FOR YOUR WAR!

People who are "scared" of Obama or think he is somehow just great at giving speeches are seriously misguided. Lets see... Bush is in because he had his "daddy"... HRC was born into wealth and has her "Billy"... Obama has a TRUE AMERICAN STORY. Full of diversity and struggle and success. He has experienced places and different cultures... which makes him a better man. He has had a grass roots start which now has the support of the people everywhere.. white, black, urban, rural, and cross voters. Republicans and HRC supporters have a serious denial problem. Obama is winning... and he has non-racist, educated or informed supporters everywhere. GOP supporters are still playing the fear game... they think he is a terrorist (Funny thing the terrorist the world is dealing with now is the IDIOT they voted into office in the first place.)

SHAME ON BUSH SUPPORTERS AND WAR LOVERS

GOD FORGIVE AMERICA

Posted by: jan | June 2, 2008 12:16 PM

Dear Democratic Brothers and Sisters,

We need to unite as a party. I know this is an emotional time, but it is impratical to vote for McCain. The time to vote for him was 8 years ago when he was running against the Bush. The state of our national economy cannot endure another 4 years of trickle down economics and our troops need to come home. So, please do some soul searching between now and November and do the right thing and help elect a Democrat for president.

Posted by: gocart | June 2, 2008 12:10 PM

"Hispanics can go to hell!! Obama doesn't need you. He will win the nomination without your help anyway. You only call yourselves minorities only when you looking for opportunities but you identify yourselves with whites. YOU ARE NOT WHITES and NOT any better that blacks."

Typical racist rant from an Obama supporter. And he's going to "unite" us? Right!! What's wrong with this picture? And you thought it was only his church!!

Put down the Kool-Aid folks, wake up. Don't drive from one ditch to the other!

Go Clinton !!!

Posted by: Keith | June 2, 2008 12:10 PM

Hmmm...if you really gave a damn about uniting the Democratic party wouldn't you get the hell out when you realized that your opponent and fellow democrat had a triple digit lead over you in the nomination?!

Nope. Frankly, Clinton is a little crazy and hurtful to our party. I used to respect her for her tenacity, but this is taking it too far.

As for McCain, his ignorance about the economy, his refusal to support the GI Bill all while hypocritically maintaining his intentions to send more of our soldiers overseas, but not support them even though he probably reaped the benefits of some type of help after his term of service, as well as, his Bush flavored domestic and economic plans all make his bid for presidency laughable.
Moreover, all the corruption within the Republican party and their reverse Robin Hood economic policies (steal from the poor and give to the rich...Enron, tax breaks to big companies, etc.) deter me from EVER voting anything NEAR Republican.

Posted by: The Clinton Ego | June 2, 2008 12:09 PM

TO DAVID!!!

Hispanics can go to hell!! Obama doesn't need you. He will win the nomination without your help anyway. You only call yourselves minorities only when you looking for opportunities but you identify yourselves with whites. YOU ARE NOT WHITES and NOT any better that blacks.
And you think that blacks have higher rates of unemployement, drugs, crimes and public assistance, then come to NY City and see for yourself. Rikers Island jail and all jails in LA are predominately Hispanics, drug rehabs in NYC are all Hispanics. And 13-15 year olds who give birth with illigimate children are mostly Hispanics. The only hard working Hispanics were the immigrants who came from Latin America NOT Puerto Rican/Dominican Hispanics who are born in America.
bY THE WAY I AM WHITE.
GO OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: rico | June 2, 2008 12:09 PM

Hi, I am Joy.

I am not a racist, I am mixed just like Obama, but I am for Hillary.

I don't want to be an Obamanation!!!

Posted by: Joy | June 2, 2008 12:02 PM

"white" un-educated people aren't ready to have a black president? You need counseling. This is non-sense. Alot of "white" "un-educated" people voted for Obama. The problem in this country is that everyone picks up on media tags and directs their hatred at some group. "un educated whites" "evil soccer moms" "urban people" Everyone is unhappy because they're broke and instead of dealing with the real problems we name call each other.

There are other reasons not to like Obama than racism. Just as there are reasons not to like Clinton other than sexism. I like them both. But I will say I loathe Obama supporters. They are his biggest liability. When you listen to him you realize he is a good man with vision. Sadly when you listen to the hate and hissy-fits of alot of his supporters it turns your stomach.

Posted by: William | June 2, 2008 11:59 AM

Its funny how people are trying to dance around the issue of having a black man as their president. Just face it people, white "uneducated" americans are not ready to have any black person as their president. Own up to your racism and leave it as that. The so called educated white man is supporting Obama for reasons I cannot comprehend right now. But i'm sure it has a lot more to do with capitalism than anything else. Somehow they are gonna profit from having him as president. Black people just want to have a black president because he's black, no matter what his issues are, and Hispanics are a bunch of confused hyprocrits who would rather associate themselves with whites.

Posted by: Vic | June 2, 2008 11:48 AM

First of all, the reason why Bush won the second time in 04 is because idiots like the ones writing on here. You guys let Bush scare you into voting for him and now look what you fools got. It is your own fault. No matter who wins between Hillary and Obama I will not vote for McCain. Everyone needs to stop all their crying.
I know that someone name heather113 said he was Muslim but he is not Muslim. Its these types of people that ruin our country. Other people like the Ohio Family say that The Hamas, Fidel Castro, and similar others want Obama in the office but I think that is all BS. Maybe those people in those countries are tired of the racist foreign policy that their countries recieve throughout the history of this country. I love America and wouldn't want to live anywhere else but people open your eyes. The people in the Middle east and in other countries hate us for a reason. I am not saying that they should bomb us but I am saying they just don't dislike us for no reason. People need to wake up from the fantasy world they live in and see that every counrty has done dirt in their past and that racism is still alive becuase look at the pastor that supported Mccain, what he said about Obama. People need to grow up and get all this hatred out of your heart. God loves everyone and wish that no one perish. People here in America sometimes think that they are better than other people but God made us all equal and don't think just because you claim to be Christian and go to church on sundays doesn't mean that you are a child of God. Some of us in this counrty are hypocrites because they say that your doing a injustice to them when they hate their fellow man. People here are stupid and set in their ways. So go and vote for Mccain because Hillary doesn't win and he is going to make it worst for America here and abroad.
GOD BLESS AMERICA

Posted by: David | June 2, 2008 11:45 AM

If Hillary wins it only means a Third term for Bill. Some of you will love that from the Appalachians to the Everglades. As we all know in the Dem election before the voting started that the Popular vote don't count so why change the rules at the end of the contest if not to get Bill back in office.

Posted by: Jtwinz | June 2, 2008 11:41 AM

I wonder has it come to anyone's attention the many ways Billary changed her way of campainging? Mostly when she discovered she was getting the white, older, uneducated vote? Has anyone that fits this discription thought if these facts were
were different would she then have the same number of votes? Do you want someone in the Whitehouse that will do anything no matter how unscrupulas just to get his or her way? This is very demanding and devisive even sounds too familiar.

We do not need another McBush in the Whitehouse. Some of you may have wondered why the B left from Waco after his daughter's wedding instead of Foot Hood. Troops were leaving for Irac, some of the troops were leaving for their 5th tour with a three and a half month break. You have a choice, we unite as dem. and elect a new president or keep our troops there for an extended period of time.

Posted by: reneekey | June 2, 2008 11:34 AM

As you read these comments you can feel the racial overtone from many as they make known their feeling about this campaign. It's time for the Clintonites to go and we don't need a twofer in the People's house that have misled and lied for so long. McCain is ok but this country needs a change and it will never happen if you been in Washington all your adult life after the military. I have listen to all and not afraid of comments about Obama from the press nor his pastor. Obama has the best credentical to bring a change. He will come with and outside view of the DC establishment. So drop the overtone and let's go for a change from the norm and put new blood in the peoples' house. I have always voted Republican but not this year.
The Clintons only say what will please you and hope to make you happy to get elected. Majority of you fall for this and if that what you want than it"s fine. Well, we all know what to expect from McCain. When Obama wins and he will with or with out your vote because the young want change, the old want change, and the American People want change.

I will vote democratic for a change and new blood in the WH for 2008 and turn off FOX News that fair and unbalanced extremely right wing bias reporting behind. Also it don't matter whom is elected as the President neither candidate has no experience this election as the President, unless it's Bill Clinton wanting a third term in office. Also don't forget this country has the authority to impeach.

Posted by: Jluck | June 2, 2008 11:34 AM

I am puzzled by the people who say they are afraid of Obama. He has a fair amount of political experience both in terms of his community organizing in Chicago, service in Illinois, and admittedly brief stint in the senate, and none of his positions is particularly radical. He had no plans to take away anyone's guns, he wants to preserve employer-based health care, he has a ten-billion dollar birth to age 4 education program, what's so radical?

He wants to get us out of Iraq and is willing to talk to our enemies in order to make that possible. Is that a position that any Democrat would have a problem with? And in general, don't he and Hillary Clinton agree on 98% of the issues?

As for his membership in Trinity Church, I know that I belonged to a synagogue where routinely offensive comments were made from the pulpit about the trustworthiness of Arabs. Am I responsible for everything my Rabbi had to say. I am glad that Obama has left that church and renounced the comments, but having belonged to that church hardly makes him scary or a radical.

So what is this really about?

Posted by: Oozy C. | June 2, 2008 11:32 AM

Obama could have united America, indstead he chose to be the first African American President. He is just as much white as he is black, he could have said alot about racism, but chose the route of his racist pastor. I could have voted for him if I thought he was a man of integrity, but I know that isn't true.
I was an American veteran,Viet Nam Era, I will vote for McCain because of his experience with war. Obama has no experience, he isn't even a veteran. I want leadership when it comes to the saftey and economy of our country.
In times pass I have voted for Clinton, Gore, Kerry, and was hoping for Edwards. oh well, not a perfect world. Now Edwards would have made a good President.

Posted by: Bill in Florida | June 2, 2008 11:32 AM

I, as a Republican party member will be visiting my Registrar's office and changing to Unaffilitated. I, as an American feel that I should be able to vote for the person whom I feel is the better candidate. I was not allowed to cast my vote for Hillary in the Primary because I was a registered Republican, therefor I simply scratched through my ballot and turned it in. My concience would not allow me to cast a vote for McCain, and was not allowed to vote for Clinton. I know of many Replicans that feel the same way that I do. I also hope and pray that Hillary will consider entering the race as an Independent candidate if she fails to win the Democratic Nomination. I believe it will then be a completely different outcome...I believe the American people will stand behind and beside Hillary Clinton for President. We don't need a Warmonger as President, and unfortunatly that is what we will get if McCain wins. I don't believe that Obama can beat him in November...maybe I am wrong (it wouldn't be the first time), but won't be voting for either McCain or Obama in the General Election. Hillary is holding strong, she is determined, focused, and not giving up...isn't that what we want for a President? Somebody that will not back down? The United States was built on these very things...we fought the Revolution against great odds and won. Not because we admitted defeat at the loss of a battle. The battle might be lost but the war is far from over. Keep on pushing Hillary, America will be there for You!

Posted by: GwenA | June 2, 2008 11:30 AM

During the primaries as Sen. Obama became more prominent I did what most people have done or should have done. I checked out his ideas, policies and record. I came to the conclusion that Sen. Clinton was the much better candidate. While his message of change sounds good how does he plan to accomplish this? He has not told us how. This was a terrific marketing tool. I believe Sen. Clinton is also talking about change, Iraq, health care, education, etc. She has the ability and experience to do this. She is the much stronger candidate against John McCain in November. A note to a previous post. She did not campaign in FL or MI, but did travel to those states after the primaries to thank her supporters. In her speech in FL AFTER the primary she told the voters that she would do everything she could to have their votes counted. She at this time was ahead in the general primary. To all of you that support Sen. Obama let her do what she has said she will do from the beginning, continue until there is a nominee. At that time she will give her full support to Sen. Obama, just as she said she would.

Posted by: Terri | June 2, 2008 11:27 AM

Thank you Gocard. I am with you my Democractic Brother or Sister. I prefer Obama, but will take Hillary or Mickey Mouse if his name has a (D) besides it on the ballot. Don't worry about these crazy Obama and Hillary supporters that can't see beyond the darn candidate. There are still plenty of sane folks abound that see the stark differences between a Democrat and Republican president. There are even some who actually believe that McCain will be moderate....LOL. Yeah and I remember the "compassionate conservatism" of Reagan and Bush. Go Democrats 08
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Dear Democratic Brothers and Sisters,

We need to unite as a party. I know this is an emotional time, but it is impratical to vote for McCain. The time to vote for him was 8 years ago when he was running against the Bush. The state of our national economy cannot endure another 4 years of trickle down economics and our troops need to come home. So, please do some soul searching between now and November and do the right thing and help elect a Democrat for president.

Posted by: Michelle | June 2, 2008 11:21 AM

Please excuse duplicative postings below. I was having some problems posting my comments.

Posted by: cadbury | June 2, 2008 11:16 AM

Republicans everywhere: SHAME ON YOU!! You guys put us into this mess in the first place. Just be glad there are educated democrats to bail you out of your redneck war games. You should not even be allowed to vote!! LETS RAISE YOUR TAXES SO WE CAN PAY FOR YOUR WAR!

People who are "scared" of Obama or think he is somehow just great at giving speeches are seriously misguided. Lets see... Bush is in because he had his "daddy"... HRC was born into wealth and has her "Billy"... Obama has a TRUE AMERICAN STORY. Full of diversity and struggle and success. He has experienced places and different cultures... which makes him a better man. He has had a grass roots start which now has the support of the people everywhere.. white, black, urban, rural, and cross voters. Republicans and HRC supporters have a serious denial problem. Obama is winning... and he has non-racist, educated or informed supporters everywhere. GOP supporters are still playing the fear game... they think he is a terrorist (Funny thing the terrorist the world is dealing with now is the IDIOT they voted into office in the first place.)

SHAME ON BUSH SUPPORTERS AND WAR LOVERS

GOD FORGIVE AMERICA

Posted by: jan | June 2, 2008 11:16 AM

Hillary Clinton won, she won so much %%%, she won here, she won there, if so, why is Obama ahead of her in every single poll?
She is not a winner. She is a bitter, bad looser, which is does not have a sense of reality and does not know when to stop and exit with a grace. I am embarrassed for her. She is Clinton! She is an old-fashioned bully!
I am not a sexist, I am a woman; I am not a black, I am a white. However, I am sooooo much agree with Father Michael Pfleger! He is, rather, cute! " God has spoken to you, people. through the lips of an infant, and you all were deaf"!

Posted by: monnalitta | June 2, 2008 11:15 AM

Whomever said these words I am with you a hundred percent. As someone who works on Capitol Hill with the Obamas, Hillarys and Nancy Pelosis of Congress, I can assure you that your blind falling of one candidate is idiotic. Most of these people Obama and Hillary included are NOT what they appear on TV and you don't know them until you have worked with them on legislation. But if you believe in the Democratic ideals and issues then you can't go wrong voting Democrat. Even though Bush was/is an idiot the Republican conservative agenda was still pushed ahead under his leadership. So you people ready to jump ship because Hillary isn't going to win are frankly not true Democrats anyway. By the way there are 3 branches of government, Wall St, global politics and a lot of other things at play in politics so thinking that your President is all powerful is also a fool's thought process.
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I am a Democrat....PERIOD..I can't see voting for the GOP because I'm so emotionally tied to one candidate be it Obama or Clinton.

Posted by: Michelle | June 2, 2008 11:15 AM

Dems who ignore or diss HRC supporters who say they will stay home or vote for McCain do so at their peril. These folks are delusional if they think these voters will automatically pull the lever for Obama in Nov. The only way to guarantee that a substantial chunk of Hillary's supporters come on board is to put her on the ticket.

Posted by: cadbury | June 2, 2008 11:06 AM

Democrats who ignore or diss HRC supporters, who say they will stay home or vote for McCain, do so at their peril. The party is in denial if they think they can win in November without her supporters. There is only one way to guarantee that a substantial chunk of these folks pull the lever for Obama in Nov, and that is to put her on the ticket.

Posted by: cadbury | June 2, 2008 10:59 AM

Vic says, pro Obama voters support him because he's black and anti Obama voters oppose him because he's black. He's convinced that 100% of us in this country can't get past the color of Obama's skin. Vic, you are the racist, not me. I am white, middle aged, highly eductated, Republican and support Obama because I believe he will make the best President. You can't comprehend that (as you freely admit) because you could not fathom voting for a black man. You should be ashamed but are too ignorant to realize it.

Posted by: spencer | June 2, 2008 10:57 AM

I also have voted Democrat for the last 25 years. If Obama gets the nomination I will write in Hillary's name as my choice or I will leave the President and VP spot blank on my ticket. I can't vote for McCain but I also can't support someone who used unfair tactics to take the nomination from Senator Clinton. Obama will probably win anyway due to voter disgust with the Republicans...but we don't need to acknowledge him.

Posted by: jerrydtx | June 2, 2008 10:46 AM

I always admired Hillary. However now I am admiring her more than ever. I am very impressed by the strength, the courage and the resilience, shown by her.
As a professional career woman, I am very proud of her. Whether she wins nomination or not, she is the real WNNER in this contest (for me).

Hillary Clinton or J. McCain 08

Posted by: Anya | June 2, 2008 10:44 AM

What is REALLY scary, even scarier than Obama himself, is that so many so called "educated" voters are swayed by nothing but flowery speeches and rhetoric... stop and think for yourselves!
Do you not have a brain of your own? Or have you been brainwashed by your liberal college professors?! If Obama is elected president, its OVER. If its change you want, you are SURE to get it with Obama.
However, it just might not be the change you were expecting... wake up.

Posted by: sue | June 2, 2008 10:40 AM

I am Republican and have never been a Hillary fan, but Obama scares the crap out of me. I have to say I have a new found respect for ol' Hillary. McCain would not have been my first choice for the Republican nominee, but I will stand behind him 100% if Obama gets the nomination. If he gets elected, get ready for a bumpy ride. Capital gains tax increase from 15 to 28% and Global Poverty UN policies that will cost each American approx 825.00 per year to fight global poverty, which will probably be confiscated by half the third world governments or line the pockets of the UN officials like the Food for Oil program. Obama wants strong ties with the UN, which in my opinion is ineffectual and needs to disband and be kicked out of New York.

Posted by: Kim P | June 2, 2008 10:37 AM

I am a Democrat and I will tell you now if OBAMA is the nominee, and it looks like without a miracle he will be, I will not be voting.

I don't like McCain either, so unlike some democrats I will not vote for him.

The only way I will vote is if Clinton is the nominee or she is the vice presidential nominee. Otherwise this democrat is sitting this one out and hoping for a better choice in 2012!

Posted by: okie gal | June 2, 2008 10:32 AM

For "Democrats" who say they won't vote for the other candidate should they not win....consider the fate of the agenda which I HOPE you support.

Lower Taxes for the middle class

Responsible foreign diplomacy

Supreme Court Justices who respect the right of women to choose

Education Funding

Environmental Standards

the list goes on...

A blank vote is as if you voted for McCain...

I am a Democrat....PERIOD..I can't see voting for the GOP because I'm so emotionally tied to one candidate be it Obama or Clinton.

If we as Democrats do that...we deserve whatever we get in November. This should have been a lay-up for us....instead we're doing our best to lose. BOTH camps.

Posted by: Thall | June 2, 2008 10:32 AM

The election is already over! Obama won't stand a chance against Mccain. Hillary would have beat Mccain hands down, but Democrats are too brain washed by Obama and his pathetic experience. It is not only sad, it's scary! I have been a Democrat for 37 years and I will vote for Mccain along with everyone else if Obama is the Democratic nominee. Hillary should be the candidate!
GO HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Greg | June 2, 2008 10:30 AM

Hispanics don't matter that much. Their churchgoing is hypocrisy. Blacks now know they can work and relate well with whites. Hispanics are jealous that Obama's mom is white. Hispanics, are a confused bunch, adios!!!

Posted by: Candid | June 2, 2008 10:29 AM

I still do not see how Obama can possibly have gone as far as he has. He is a glib speaker, but so is his pastor. He talks like his pastor and he is repetitive, a much used oratory trick. As a South American, I deplore the very idea of having such a person in power in the most powerful country in the world. He is just too unknown and there are too many uncertainties about him.

Posted by: Carlos | June 2, 2008 10:28 AM

If Hillary is smart, why then doesnt she know her math?

Posted by: ana | June 2, 2008 10:15 AM

Like Pontius Pilate, Obama seems to feel that "washing his hands" of his church now will somehow wash away and cleanse the 20+ years of overt racial hatred that he says he never noticed. But, before its all over someone will come forward with the evidence to show that he not only knew about it but that he subscribed fervently to it. He has fooled the Democratic Party elite, or they have chosen to look the other way but as honest Abe said " You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time "
The Democratic Party Rules Committee elected John McCain to the Presidency on Saturday May, 31st, and there is absolutely nothing now that Hillary Clinton can say or do to change that.

Posted by: BGRaine@Yahoo.com | June 2, 2008 10:08 AM

I can't believe the inane comments coming from Hillary supporters. Unfair tactics from Obama? HILLARY CHEATED BY CAMPAIGNING IN FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN AFTER PROMISING NOT TO! How gullible are you people? Note I support neither Obama nor McCain but I Hillary has clearly shown herself unfit for command.

Posted by: HillaryIsAWHINER | June 2, 2008 10:07 AM

all you fool who can not by pass race are culture diversity is ignorant. his mom is a white woman. not because he has yhe last of his father make him a muslim. stop the hatred for muslim people. we need some to heal the nation at home and aboard. obama is the one can restore the peace. for all the enimies we haave cost around the world.


Posted by: luvnpeace
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You can't even wright a coherent sentence and you expect people to listen to you. What does "all you fool who can not by pass race are culture diversity is ignorant" mean? You might want to try to learn how to spell or learn how to use spell check. I love the way you start your post
with an insult and end it with a plea for healing the nation. Don't you see that you are the reason that there is so much divisiveness in the party. Can't you see the hypocrisy of your post?

Posted by: Jack Straw | June 2, 2008 10:06 AM

"Why is it that when Hillary was expected to win Super Tuesaday none of the Obama or Edwards supporters went about claiming that they would rather vote for the Republicans than Hillary."

Obama people claim that all the time. Even worse, they claim they will vote republican if Hillary is VP. I will have a hard time voting for Obama and will probably leave the presidential section blank. At least I know McCain is competent. Obama? I am not so sure. Look at the mess Mass. is in with Deval Patrick. Obama has been packaged the same way. He stays frighteningly on script. His handlers are very good at creating a brand. What will that get you as a President? Incompetence. McCain also has more of a history of bi-partisanship than Obama. My main issue is the economy, so I would have much preferred Hillary. Both Obama and McCain are clueless on the economy as far as I can tell.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 9:57 AM

am Democrat who voted for Obama....my loyalties lie with the PARTY not him or Clinton. BOTH sides have a lot of work to do to win in November. We need to focus on:

The Possibility of Supreme Court Justices being nominated and how that will affect women.

Tax policy for the middle class

What to do about No Child Left Behind

Iraq/Iran/and our foreign policy platform in general

Fixing entitlement programs

Our Nations' Highways

...and the list goes on.

If we as a PARTY can't get it together, then we deserve everything we get in November.

Posted by: Thall | June 2, 2008 9:56 AM

am Democrat who voted for Obama....my loyalties lie with the PARTY not him or Clinton. BOTH sides have a lot of work to do to win in November. We need to focus on:

The Possibility of Supreme Court Justices being nominated and how that will affect women.

Tax policy for the middle class

What to do about No Child Left Behind

Iraq/Iran/and our foreign policy platform in general

Fixing entitlement programs

Our Nations' Highways

...and the list goes on.

If we as a PARTY can't get it together, then we deserve everything we get in November.

Posted by: Thall | June 2, 2008 9:56 AM

the devil you know is better than the devil you dont know. obama is a neophyte. no world leader will take him seriously. they will probably think we have thrown in the towel. and for those who have to have change, going from a rain storm to a hurricane is change.

Posted by: howard | June 2, 2008 9:53 AM

Re: Candid

You need to form a coalition of different groups to win in a general election. Obama must appeal to white working class, Hispanics and women. And no, your sense of race relations is wrong. Whites and Blacks relate to each other in a very complex way. Blacks more than whites segregate themselves voluntarily - church, school lunch time, sports, clubs, politically. Culturally, blacks seek to isolate themselves with self-destructive behavior - poor academic performance, high rates of crime and drug abuse, broods of illegitimate children, and dependency on government assistance. Yes, their is white racism against blacks - think of your daughter bringing home a black boyfriend. Hispanics are more readily accepted by the white mainstream culture because of their close families and strong work ethic.

Posted by: David | June 2, 2008 9:52 AM

Puerot Rico, FLorida and Michigan are racists because they didnt vote for Obama.
LOL

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 9:52 AM

I only Know that I know nothing. Obama is another Jimmy Carter, but black and muslim. His only experience was a Law review magazine and that unproductive Congress. Think about that.

Posted by: nitsuga | June 2, 2008 9:48 AM

I used to be a Clinton fan, Hillary and Bill are discusting they have tried every method nown to this world of changing the rules the playing field and the party. My best guess is they will not indorse or in any way back Obama. They are power hungry people who would do anything to get back in power They care nothing about the party or the cndidate only themselves.

Posted by: jim davis | June 2, 2008 9:48 AM

Obama is very racist! He is also unpatriotic and I am not talking about wearing a stupid pin! If he wins the dem vote McCain will be president. Wake up America! Do you really want another Bush as president! Obama will never win the presidency! He is a muslin for god's sake! Our people are in Iraq dieing and you want a damn muslin president. Are you F***ing kidding me. Jesus, you get someone with black skin on the ballot and your all ready to bow down to him. There are many other black candidates that would be great presidents. Elect one of them and I will gladly vote for him. Thinking about what your letting in our front door for god's sake!! You might as well just hand over the country on a silver platter!!

Posted by: heather113 | June 2, 2008 9:30 AM

The DNC must take notice. Obama has not shown that he can carry the voting blocs that the Democratic nominee must in order to win the White House - working class whites and Hispanics. In fact, those that do support Obama have the knack for pushing their cultural agenda and in doing so they fracture the Democratic Party. Gay marriage, reparations, racism, liberalism and intolerance, dependence on (intrusive) government to solve all problems.

Obama has been truly offensive in comparing the Clinton Presidency to that of the Bush Years. Clinton was for smart, effective and efficient government. Clinton would not allow blacks, elites or gays to control his Presidency. He reduced welfare dependence and shepherded the US through an economic boom that created a budget surplus. I forgive him for his personal failures and I admire his wife for sticking by his side.

Posted by: David | June 2, 2008 9:30 AM

Some voters say that Obama is not "experienced" enough. Last time I checked McCain, Billary, nor Obama had ever been President before. So what do you mean "experienced"? What is really so sad is that if Obama had TWO white parents instead of ONE the nomination would have been wrapped up months ago. It was agreed by Obama and Billary not to count Florida and Michigan back when they violated the rules. Now that Billary has NO chance of winning the nomination she now wants to whine and change her mind. Typical woman. OBAMA, KEEP PUSHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anna Mae | June 2, 2008 9:24 AM

vote for Hillary

She has been there she knows whats what. She wont back down. This woman is smart, she will make a good leader
Obama is NOT the right person for the job.

Posted by: gerri | June 2, 2008 9:22 AM

Contrary to what "news media" thinks or says, if Hilary is not the nominee, we are voting for John McCain... as will many other Clinton supporters.
It is unbelievable that the American people, and the Super-delegates are not seeing who wants Senator Obama for President. The Hamas, Fidel Castro, and similar others. This says MUCH more than anything Obama can. Doesn't anybody in this country wonder why these people want him for president? We do.

Posted by: Ohio Family | June 2, 2008 9:21 AM

Democrats gave HALF a vote to FL and MI voters. Bush/SC gave ZERO vote to FL voters. Dems are 50% better :))

What a joke! Both party sucks.

There are other wayd to punish FL and MI. Counting half the votes is BUSHISM.

Posted by: Private | June 2, 2008 9:20 AM

SOME PEOPLE SEEM TO SAY "CAN ANYTHING GOOD COME OUT OF HAWAII?"
BE CAREFUL WITH UNDERDOGS!
THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN IN THE SYSTEM CANNOT CHANGE IT.ONLY OUTSIDERS (UNDERDOGS) CAN DELIVER THE GOALS.JUST WAIT AND SEE!!!!
GOD LOVES AMERICA
THE ELECTION THIS TIME CARRIES WITH IT SOMETHING PROPHETIC.NAME:JEWISH-MUSLIM-AFRICAN-AMERICAN.BLESSINGS

Posted by: wamei | June 2, 2008 9:19 AM

I may get branded a wackadoodle for this, but I have been wanting to ask America this for quite a while. How can one mistakenly say that they were shot at and had to run for cover? Here in the midwest where I live, we do not consider such to be a mistake. It is an instance of someone that is telling a blatant lie. I for one do not want a liar in the white house.

Posted by: wtchdr46 | June 2, 2008 9:17 AM

And recently, far from Puerto Rico and well outside the Beltway, Californians ponder their presidential choices:

New Poll Finds Big Shift Toward Obama

Californians give Obama a significant edge over Clinton and McCain

By Justin Ewers, U.S. News & World Report
Posted May 22, 2008

SAN FRANCISCO--A new poll released today in California finds political momentum shifting dramatically toward Barack Obama--and away from both Hillary Clinton and John McCain--in the nation's most populous state. According to a survey conducted over the past 10 days by the Public Policy Institute of California, 59 percent of likely voters here now have a "favorable" impression of Democrat Obama, while a majority view both of the other candidates unfavorably. In a state whose Democratic primary Clinton won in February, 51 percent of voters now say they have an unfavorable opinion of her; 53 percent of voters feel the same way about Republican McCain.

Obama, meanwhile, seems to be making strides across nearly every constituency. If the general election were held today, 54 percent of Californians say they would vote for him, compared with 37 percent for McCain. That gap has widened by 8 points since March. Obama enjoys the support of more than 80 percent of Democrats here, along with over half (55 percent) of independents. He leads McCain among men and women and is viewed favorably by nearly 70 percent of Latinos....

Posted by: FirstMouse | June 2, 2008 9:17 AM

Did you hear that Mr. Obama can never be legally USA president?

Is this true?



Barak Obama Constitutionally Ineligible for President
Not a "natural born citizen" of the USA
In 1999, the United Nations confirmed that the plebiscite vote that led to Hawaii's statehood was in violation of article 73 of the United Nations' charter. The Hawaii statehood vote, under treaty then in effect, was illegal and non-binding.

In a world where nations are as governed by laws as are men, Hawaii is not and has never legally been a part of the United States.

Hawaiians submitted a petition to Congress with 29,000 signatures opposing annexation, and petitions to the Republic of Hawaii (the satellite government imposed upon the native Hawaiians), asking that annexation be put to a public vote. They were never permitted to vote on the issue.

In all, three separate Treaties of Annexation were sent to congress. All three failed. In the end, Hawaii was annexed by a joint resolution of Congress. But Congress did not have the legal authority to do so. A joint resolution of the U.S. Congress has no legal standing in a foreign country, which is what Hawaii remained, even under the provisional government.

If one holds that the government of the United States is obliged to obey the laws and the UN charter it freely signed, then the status of the Hawaiian people as a distinct and sovereign nation is beyond debate. This makes the United States in Hawaii, as Gandhi described the British in India, acting as the masters in someone else's home. (somewhat following the pattern of the Union's establishment of satellite governments that were forced upon the various Confederate States in the South after 1865.)

On November 23, 1993, President Clinton signed United States Public Law 103-150, which not only acknowledged the illegal actions committed by the United States in the overthrow of the legitimate government of Hawaii, but also that the Hawaiian people never surrendered their sovereignty.

The latter is the most important part of United States Public Law 103-150 for it makes it quite clear that the Hawaiian people never legally ceased to be a sovereign separate independent nation. There is no argument that can change that fact.

United States Public Law 103-150, despite its polite language, is an official admission that the government of the United States illegally occupies the territory of the Hawaiian people. In 1999, the United Nations confirmed that the plebiscite vote that led to Hawaii's statehood was in violation of article 73 of the United Nations' charter. The Hawaii statehood vote, under treaty then in effect, was illegal and non-binding.

ARTICLE II, Section I. of the Constitution of the United States requires:
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii and thus was not a "natural born Citizen" of the United States to satisfy the constitutional requirement for the U.S. Presidency. His mother was from Wichita, Kansas, but his father was born in Nyangoma-Ko-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya. Legally then, Barack Obama is a foreigner.

According to Fox News, most of his financing has been furnished by a foreigner, Hungarian born billionaire socialist George Soros, who lives in Canada. It is revealing that the American Communist party (CPUSA) actively supports Obama.

Barak Obama is hereby instructed to withdraw from the race for President of the United States. As he is consitutionally disallowed he cannot and will not be permitted to, take that office

Posted by: Joe Smith | June 2, 2008 9:15 AM

why can't we just get along.buy a big bag of ice and sit on it. go OBAMA

Posted by: tjohn | June 2, 2008 9:14 AM

georgia john
Hillary should not even be in the same room as Obama if he wins this. She would be bad for him because of her baggage. Also there is so much bad blood between them it would not work, If she was on the ticket I would not vote. AND if by some chance he got run over by a bus ,she would be the president and people have shown that they do not want her. There are a lot of good women governor's he can think about.hillory has lied, cheated,stole etc,etc,etc AMERICA does not need her

Posted by: the jackal | June 2, 2008 9:06 AM

I don't care what is said by any of you period!!! I can not and will not vote for Obama. I am a lifelong Democrat who has never crossed party lines who will be voting for McCain in the GE.
You Obama supporters, say what you will. There are a ton of DEMOCRATS WHO FEEL JUST LIKE ME AND THERE WILL BE NOTHING ANYONE CAN SAY, INCLUDING HILLARY THAT WILL MAKE ME VOTE FOR THAT SCARY LITTLE MAN (Obama).
As a matter of fact, after the stunts that the Pro-Obama DNC has pulled, I am inches away from switching to Republican. If any of you knew me, you would know I have never dreamed of crossing party lines, but I have no other choice.

Posted by: robdon62@yahoo.com | June 2, 2008 9:01 AM

I am Democrat who voted for Obama....my loyalties lie with the PARTY not him or Clinton. BOTH sides have a lot of work to do to win in November. We need to focus on:

The Possibility of Supreme Court Justices being nominated and how that will affect women.

Tax policy for the middle class

What to do about No Child Left Behind

Iraq/Iran/and our foreign policy platform in general

Fixing entitlement programs

Our Nations' Highways

...and the list goes on.

If we as a PARTY can't get it together, then we deserve everything we get in November.

Posted by: Thall | June 2, 2008 8:54 AM

you americans so proud of being the best in the whole world in everything up and beyong the universe. pero, you can not see the best what is your palm right now because your are mesmirized by the rhetorics and the hungrier political dogs ....americans, cant you see who your enemies are? who are your number 1 hater and killer? THEY CALLED THEMSELVES THE "MUSLIMS". and right now, your political leaders are driving you to the lion's mouth who is waiting for you to be devoured. GOOD LUCK G.I. JOES.

Posted by: erap42 | June 2, 2008 8:54 AM

you americans so proud of being the best in the whole world in everything up and beyong the universe. pero, you can not see the best what is your palm right now because your are mesmirized by the rhetorics and the hungrier political dogs ....americans, cant you see who your enemies are? who are your number 1 hater and killer? THEY CALLED THEMSELVES THE "MUSLIMS". and right now, your political leaders are driving you to the lion's mouth who is waiting for you to be devoured. GOOD LUCK G.I. JOES.

Posted by: erap42 | June 2, 2008 8:53 AM

lets use facts
1. It may be true that Clinton May be a stronger cadidate since she has more blue-collar,old, less income, etc but that is before you remove those who will defect if Obama is unfairly removed (original criteria was delegates- now even if you take away the 55 Michgan he got she still does not over take him). For honest DNC leaders they would rather loose in november than do injustice that will linger in their conscience for ages(put yourself in their shoes) Ruling the country is not the only thing--losing honestly is more honorable than winning by hook and crook

2. If Mrs Clinton Lost on delegate count to Obama due to vote counts(who is at fault? --the voters --if that is an offence- then lets stop talking of voting and do like Mugabe--choose a leader using experience even if the count of delegates and probably "fair" totals state otherwise.

3. I believe what people say about "fear" of Obama -- hence place him under heavy encampass-ment of realiable stateman/woman or advocate for a joint ticket because WE CANNOT CHANGE RULES NOW to place Mrs Clinton as a winner even if give her the 55 delegates from Michigan cannot make her win ---We cannot propose a useless arguement when numbers say something else--Iran,Zimbabwe, Cuba, etc who are practicing that will laugh at us.

4. Those who voted against Mrs Clinton argue that they dont think she is honest together with her Husband(she knew and had approved Michigan/Florida disqualifications--she know that if voting were to be done in Michigan Obama will not get zero -- she know is its unfair to change rules while the game is in play at towards the end--like soccer referee changing rule at the 75th minutes? --she know that Obama was not doing any malice when he removed his name it was to comply and observe party rule only--she is the one makes you extremely angry by crying out foul--yet Obamas numbers were not forged even if you take away 55 from Michgan that she complains about... come-on look for a better deal than that guys)
5. Loosing to Republicans doesnt matter compared to doing injustice and forgey to win the elections
4. put yourself in someone else shoes in order to reason fairly

Posted by: truth hurts | June 2, 2008 8:45 AM

there are a lot of f u ck ing racists on this post. who cares about a results in a place that can't even vote in the general election. why does the post give this woman the light of day? If you don't give her anytime, she will wither and die. To the racist and hillary supporters, grow up. She f u c k kng lost get over it. My God does her husband sound droll.We do not owe the Clintons any more than a thankyou for their years of service. some people on the Post, think they are the second coming of Christ. You want Republicans in Nov. Vote for Hillary and get her pervert husband. You know a "2fer". Can any of you shills name some legislation that Bill did for the country? I'm not talking about the economy, that he had nothing to do with, oh wait, that warm and fuzzy feeling NAFTA .....which if you read all the rules is not really free trade.....Look at all the baggage they carry....a lot more than Obama.Quit crying and take your ball home, you aren't needed any more, thank God you all will probably be dead in 20012 and won't be around to cry any more.....

Posted by: waponimrods | June 2, 2008 8:28 AM

those democratic idiots should wake up and think hard. you send obama to the general election and you will see another republican in the white house. obama won't stand a chance against mccain. only hillary can beat mccain.

Posted by: rbp, arizona kid | June 2, 2008 8:25 AM

It is so simple. With Obama nomination America will pretend that it is so generous in its election process wherein they would ignore the race factor. But when the votes are cast, it will be Mccain who will live in White House. It is not too late for Obama to let Hillary get the nomination. He can be her VP for next eight years. After that PRESIDENT.

Posted by: Rajagopal | June 2, 2008 8:25 AM

Woohoo, HRC won a commonwealth that has no vote in November. HRC won a state where Obama wasn't on the ballot. HRC wins the presidency in the fantasy world she lives in.
Posted by: Jayne | June 2, 2008 7:00 AM
...............................
The DNC gave Obama delegates from a state where he voluntarily took his name off the ballot to appease the Iowa voters who were unhappy that Florida moved up their primary.

Posted by: Danny | June 2, 2008 8:15 AM

Come on AMERICA!
Let's start a new DYNASTY
BARACK FOR 8
Theeeeeeennnnn
MICHELLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: win 4 BO | June 2, 2008 7:59 AM

Am Zambian and i've been watching this dem nomination so closely.You Americans need fresh blood.The Clintons have had there time.What is it that they want to offer which they should have offered when they were there?There is something fishy about them.Especially Bill himself.He will have all the time to frustrate Hillary with his love affairs such that she won't be able to deliver.Forget about them.Learn to move forward.Try OBAMA.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 7:55 AM

If the Democratic Party is serious about winning the White House, they will present a combined ticket of Obama/Clinton. There is no other combination that can give John McCain a close race. The data from the polls has shown that Obama alone against McCain gives the edge to McCain. There are many Democrats who will vote for John McCain (they may not say it publicly) over Obama without the proper running mate. Both Democratic candidates need to realize that if they are in the race to win, a combination Obama/Hillary ticket is the ONLY answer that will prevent a Republican victory in November. For the good of the party, it is time for Obama and Clinton to make peace with each other. It is obvious that the two are both popular and would provide a ticket that could unseat the Republicans. No other Presidential/Vice Presidental Candidate combination could come close to defeating John McCain. It is a win-win situation for each candidate- the first Afro American President and the first female Vice Presidental candidate. If the Democrats are serious about winning, a show of unity is needed quickly. Without this combination, the likelihood of a Republican vistory increase greatly.

Posted by: Georgia John | June 2, 2008 7:54 AM


Is there anyone in Obama's life who is NOT disposable?

They can stop with the Rumplestilskin act. Can't SPIN 50% into 100%

Obama stonewalled Michigan and Florida decisions. He "approved" that the voters of the United States could have HALF a vote.

He will find out how much support he DOESN'T have.

It's a lie for them to think we're going to vote for Obama. They can keep 'believing' it. Keep drinking the kool aid. Aint' gonna happen.

McCain is NOT George Bush. So they can save their politics of fear.

The DC elite battered, bashed and trashed our best candidate for their Obama Yes Puppet. The incompetent, unqualified got the job over a brilliant, informed and articulate woman.

They can take their HALF and find out how little it is.

The bitter whities are voting for Hillary as a write in or John McCain with a BIG FAT CHECK MARK.

Just say NO to Michelle Obama and her hate talk.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 7:49 AM

well i think if sen. hilary clinton will not be the democratic front runner she should run as independent and must explain to americans about her decision to do so. Americans should not just giv their hope to Obama. why? how could you trust someone quitting in a church where he was attending for many years and had done it only this time, why not in the imes where he is still not in this race?

Posted by: ed | June 2, 2008 7:44 AM

No election can be called "broad and deep" when only 20 % of the voters bothered to show up. The reality is that 80 % of Porto Ricans could not care less about American elections and want to stay independent.

Bill Clinton told them last week that they will get statehood if they support his wife. But under Bill Clinton's presidence they voted twice overwhelmingly against statehood.

Posted by: Bodo | June 2, 2008 7:43 AM


jude111
who are you? the roman oracle?


Obama came to divide and conquer this party.

He succeeded.

He can hobble on with HALF. That's all he has.

No matter how they SPIN it - it will never be 100%

THE DEMOCRAT ELILTE ESTABLISHMENT DC TROLLS AND NANCY DELAY PELOSI - THEY CAN KNOW RIGHT NOW THAT WE SAW THE COORDINATED AMBUSH OF HILLARY ON SUPER TUESDAY.

HIT AND RUN ROVIAN DEMOCRAT THUGS.

WORSE THAN REPUBLICANS

DEMOCRATS EAT THEIR OWN

SICK AND ROTTEN. THAT'S WHY WE ARE NOW INDEPENDENTS AND WILL WRITE IN HILLARY - NO MATTER WHAT FEAR TACTICS YOU USE. NO MATTER WHAT HILLARY SAYS.

THE DEMOCRAT LEADERSHIP RAPED HILLARY FOR THEIR YES PUPPET


THEY CAN TRY TO WIN WITH HALF THE PARTY

THE OTHER HALF - WE'LL BE WATCHING

WE REPRESENT LOTS OF PEOPLE POWER AND WE'VE BEEN DISENFRANCHISED

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 7:42 AM

It is sad to see these post's about Senator Obama being Muslim. He states he is a christian and was saved and baptised as such. Do you understand that he could be killed for his faith by the Muslims.
He has resigned from the church as he does not beleive what they are sayinf and this is not what he stands for. I have read all the garbage that he is the Anti-Christ, and he is a Muslim, and he feels like pastor wright and the catholic priest. Wake up people he is the one who wants to bring change to the United States and he is the "ONLY" one who mentioned native americans who most peopl forgot.He is for everyone no matter what color you are , where you work, what you beleive in, Or your gender. Mc Cain whant to take away some of womens rights. He wants to make social security a private thing. He wants to continue a war that we should have never been in the first place. How many more of our troops have to die before peopl wake up. No one in the government has a son or daughter in this war.Race is also a big factor in this race for president. Some say its not but the people in the south in a lot of area's are still in the pre-civil war mode. If you want for more years of bush vote for mc cain. If you want change vote for a democrate. Save our children that are in a war we should not be in anyway.

VOTE FOR OBAMA IN 08
VOTE FOR OBAMA IN 08

Do the smart thing vote Democrate.. Vote for Obama in 08...

Blackwolf

Posted by: Blackwolf | June 2, 2008 7:40 AM

Go Girl Hilary! You are the best bet for CHANGE. You are the ONE who electrifies and stimulates this boring election where men competes with one another for the last hundred years. Barack is same with other men. If you will be in the election. It will be as boring and predictable as before! Take care !

Posted by: cristybb2003 | June 2, 2008 7:34 AM

all you fool who can not by pass race are culture diversity is ignorant. his mom is a white woman. not because he has yhe last of his father make him a muslim. stop the hatred for muslim people. we need some to heal the nation at home and aboard. obama is the one can restore the peace. for all the enimies we haave cost around the world.


Posted by: luvnpeace | June 2, 2008 7:29 AM

You guys are an electorate that voted in George Bush twice. This means you are all really clueless. You can't blame Bush really. The economic destruction and loss of human life caused by America is a reflection on the American People. It will be a miracle if you chose the right candidate in the fall.

Posted by: Helmut Jansen - Germany | June 2, 2008 7:27 AM

All I can add is that it is a shame that there is so much resistance to the fact that Hillary Clinton is the one with momentum in this race.
It looks to me like in the end Obama is going to lose Ohio to McCain, and all the western states as well, in the usual "red-blue" split in our country.
As onerous as the war has been, few Americans really want to run out of Iraq and Afghanistan, after all we have invested, and all that our economy has suffered.
Soon enough it will be revealed that Obama hasn't done anything beside vote the party line since his election, and although he is blessed with stellar speech writers and savvy handlers, his own talents are as tarnish as his religious associations.
He's just unelectable in November. Hillary could give this country a lot more than a gender victory in November.
She's got some smarts the likes of which we won't see for a long, long time. Something I recognized back in 1992 was that Hillary Clinton had such a quality about her that I wondered even then why it was her and not her husband that was taking the oath of office.

Posted by: Tony | June 2, 2008 7:19 AM

luvnpeace,

It's sad that you do not display what your name says. I think bitter and angry is more appropriate, but as a hypocritical Obamabot what else is new. You have mastered the arts of arrogance and slinging insults. It's good to see the Obamabots trying to heal the party. Good job.

Posted by: Jack Straw | June 2, 2008 7:10 AM

i thought americans lived in a diest world country. am an asian from the philippines and watch ur primary endlessly.
it seems to me americans can not see a better president for 2008. he is just there around u.

its hillary stupid.

Posted by: javiland89 | June 2, 2008 7:02 AM

Woohoo, HRC won a commonwealth that has no vote in November. HRC won a state where Obama wasn't on the ballot. HRC wins the presidency in the fantasy world she lives in.

Posted by: Jayne | June 2, 2008 7:00 AM

In all fairness, its time for Hillary to go. We are tired of the Clintons. She has already been in the White house, what more does she want? We are not looking for an extension of the Clinton era. We want change and it is invevitable that Americans craving for change now have real hope in Obama. He can change the world!

Posted by: pauline | June 2, 2008 6:45 AM

I have alwalys understood that electons are suppose to reflect the voice of the people. somehow in 200 that was forgotten. bush entered the whitehouse and began a course of destruction of this county makine the gap between the rich and working class of america. He failed us on 911 and continues on that course. We have a wonderful choice with Hillary Clinton. however the democrats, of which i am one, have decided that losing elections is more important than anything else. what is wrong with this picture. Obama has a long history of giving preference to muslims, even those who have attacked this country. He attends a church that preaches hatred of all persons expect those who belong to there church. to say he was not aware means one of two things. first he did not atten church or he slept through everyting. of course we know that he did not sleep, but was a very active person in his church. to the point of raising monies and defending this church in court actions.
he has several business deals that if anyone but him had compelted they would still be in prison.
if you ask obama what is he going to do to change things, the speech is then devireted to another subject. funny he has no answer for anyone.
his wife only started showing up when he won. which by the way are only all the smaller states. He did not win one large state,expect his home state. can he defeat McCain in the fall? not a chance in this lifetime. however Hillary is the only person who can defeat McCain on all the issues. Obama so loves his country that he could not be bothered to serve in the aremed services. however he was more than wuilling to take money from affirmative action monies, yet he now wants to stop these monies. As a senator he has failed to have one overstite hearing on afganistan. a responsibility that was a primary functon of his assigned duties, whien questioned he said he was to busy with champaiging to complete his senate assigments. I strongly feel that he should be returning his paychcek for not working. after the good people of illnois did not elect him to run for the office of president. he could not be bothered to come to my state of nevada with the other candidates ,as he had not made up his mind about running. then he chose a 15 year old young man, who is not old enough to vote, to speak for the voters of my state about if obama should run for president. he was to important to come to cmoe to nevada, and has not made by one visit. by the way his wife was someplace else. 60 minutes interviewed his wife, and she stated that when he won his first election winover hilary was the first time that she was pround of her country. she was never pround of this country until then. his wife did not even show up on the election trail until he had won several smaller states. she was just to unconcerened about the election. obama took several extra months before he could deceide if he would run. he can not win this election, and i will take my democrat vote and vote for Mccain over obama who has no love or respect for this country. he is the most harmful candicate for president and does not deserve to win, which is impossible over McCain. the only person who polls better is Hillary, she cn win over McCain by better than 30%. but the democrats who enjoy losing elections and showing the voters that we do not count.l

Posted by: Ruth Paxton | June 2, 2008 6:40 AM

WITH MACCAIN WILL BE FOUR MORE YEARS OF LIES, WARS, BOMBS, CRIMES AND INVASIONS
AND MORE SOLDIERS GIVING THEIR LIVES USELESSLY.

WITH HILLARY CLINTON WE WILL RECUPERATE
THE DIGNITY OF USA IN THE WORLD BY ENDING THE UNJUSTIFIED OCCUPATION OF IRAK AND AFGANISTAN AND BRINGING OUR SOLDIER BACK HOME.

IF HILLARY LOOSES THE PRESIDENCY IT WILL BE ANOTHER DISSAPOINTMENT LIKE THE ONE WE SUFFERED WHEN AL GORE LOST TO BUSH IN 2001
BUT NOTHING SERIOUS WILL HAPPPEN. THE COUNTRY WILL REMAIN CALM.

IF BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA WINS, WE WILL HAVE AN ARTICULATE RELIGIOUS PREACHER IN THE WHITEHOUSE, WITHOUT EXPERIENCE WHATSOEVER.

BUT IF BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA LOOSES TO MACCAIN THE WHOLE AFROAMERICAN COMMMUNITY WILL REACT FURIOUSLY AND VIOLENTLY AND WE WILL HAVE TWO WARS. ONE ABROAD AGAINST IRAN AND ANOTHER ONE INSIDE USA AMONG BLACKS AND WHITES WHICH WILL DEVELOP INTO A CONFLICT OF SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES.

THE PROPHECY

Posted by: PROPHECY... | June 2, 2008 6:38 AM


Obama had a choice his entire life. He could have brought people together and could have been an example. He could have "CHANGED" thing.

He didn't make one move to do that.

He "chose". And he chose the rabid, racist, extremist church of his Dead Beat Dad.


White Money
Black Dad

That's what Obama's claim to fame is.

Nothing else.

No history of anything. Not even slaves.

He's a phony. Using bitter whites and black folk.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 6:38 AM

"Barack HUSSEIN Obama himself...Don`t tell me he is not. His father is an Arab Black Kenyan Muslim"

What nonsense! ARAB BLACK KENYAN MUSLIM...why all this labelling? Please take note that Obama is not black. Why? For the same reason that the white suprimacists categorise Obama as black it can be argued that this guy is not black...He has a trace of white blood in him, right? then that disqualifies him from being a black man. What nonsense!!!!

Posted by: Black Man | June 2, 2008 6:27 AM

Steven (June 2, 2008 6:19 AM) wrote:
"Educated FOOLs.
VOTE JOHN McCaiin, Repiublican
VOTE JOHN McCaiin, Repiublican
VOTE JOHN McCaiin, Repiublican..."
(etc)

My friend, your pathetic and reiterated misspellings of your very own candidate's and party's names amply confirm your standing as a card carrying member of the Know-Nothings.


Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 6:24 AM

Thank you for noticing that Obama does not appeal to Hispanic voters, by large margins.

Without Hispanics, women, or senior citizens, Obama can not win in November.

Pay close attention, Superdelegates.

Posted by: Mary | June 2, 2008 6:22 AM

Thank you for noticing that Obama does not appeal to Hispanic voters, by large margins.

Without Hispanics, women, or senior citizens, Obama can not win in November.

Pay close attention, Superdelegates.

Posted by: Mary | June 2, 2008 6:22 AM

Posted by: jan | June 2, 2008 1:37 AM

It is these educated that are the educated fools.

Just like those human rights fellows who keep talking of the unjust against those detain in Guantanamao Bay, they know not those that many including 9/11 were killed by these terrorist and rogue leaders from Hezbollah, Hamas and Tehran.

These educated fools thought that they know much, but don`t understand that that Barack Hussein Obama is a muslim in disguise who will go to great length to talk to terrorist and rogue leader. And these terrorist and rogue leaders, they are muslim just like Barack HUSSEIN Obama himself.

Don`t tell me he is not. His father is an Arab Black Kenyan Muslim and his Indonesian step father is the same. Registry in Kenya and Indonesia indicate he is a Muslim and unless he could strike that off, otherwise he is still a Muslim and not a Christian. No he could not do that because as a baptized Christian, he still retain the Muslim name HUSSEIN Obama.

Stupid idiotic educated fools. And with pariah like Kerry, the Kennedy and Carter endorsement, the the country will go down the drain and to the terrorist if the Demorats wins.

One more things if not for the Presidency, he would still be in the Trinity Church cheering to the extreme speech by his mentor and members. For 20 years he has been cheering and laughing over God and Trinity damn America but in denial.

Now he resigns is because he wants to be President that would serve the interest of his muslim bloodline.

Educated FOOLs.

VOTE JOHN McCaiin, Repiublican
VOTE JOHN McCaiin, Repiublican
VOTE JOHN McCaiin,
VOTE JOHN McCaiin, Repiublican
VOTE JOHN McCaiin, Repiublican
VOTE JOHN McCaiin, Repiublican

Posted by: Steven | June 2, 2008 6:19 AM

Your adjectives "broad and deep" aren't very well-chosen considering the low numbers of Puerto Rican voters who actually showed up at the polls -- perhaps 20%.

I don't blame them for staying home. They can't vote in the general election, so they are de facto second class political citizens. It must anger and discourage them big time.

However, these circumstances make any kind of prognostication based on the exit polls virtually meaningless.

We can only be sure of this, it didn't do much to help Clinton's latest retreaded argument that she has the popular-vote lead and the support of the masses. Even if this argument had any more traction this time around, this ho-hum turnout puts the kibosh to it.

Posted by: laboo | June 2, 2008 6:15 AM

I will only vote for Hiliary, She is the one and only. I will NOT vote for Obama for he and his wife are not trust worthy.
Look at his 20 years of religion. You don't just put that behind you. You we're drilled it and believed it for 20 years.
Anti....Anti.
Well either McCain or Hilary which I am not a McCain fan but I will vote for no other reason than MY beliefs.

Posted by: scarey | June 2, 2008 5:45 AM

It is really bad to elect Goerge W Bush. It is really worse to select Obama.
So sorry for Americans.

Posted by: Wayne | June 2, 2008 5:24 AM

It doesnot matter who wins as long as we can vouch for the integrity of our computerized election and our new voters list. I hope there are no double listing like one in the state where a voter is originally from and one where a voter is staying, studying or working and then he shows up in one and be an absentee voter in the other state. Is our list nationwide or statewide?

Posted by: Statistician | June 2, 2008 5:21 AM

"Bareback" Obama, "Swillary" Clinton and "Old Johnny" McCain all are awful. "Bareback" has never held a job involving management of people or budgets and his only concrete proposal has been to suggest raising Social Security tax.

"Swillary" is a foul hag who is the sleaziest of the three, and all "Old Johnny" can do anymore is wave his flag and tell us why we should continue to support a useless war.

So what are we voters to do? "Old Johnny" would be the least damaging of the three, but we need to increase the Democrat's majority in Congress to keep him in check. If we vote opposite parties for President and Congress then we can force compromise and drive policy decisions towards the center. Let's not give either party a President with a rubber stamp, like Baby George Bush had for six years.

Posted by: Yabosi | June 2, 2008 5:15 AM

Here are the 2 questions I ask in determining who I would vote for:

1) Will McCain continue the Iraq War? Yes. Will Hilary? Yes. Will Obama? Hopefully not.

Edge: Obama.

2) Will McCain bomb and perhaps invade Iran (if Bush doesn't do it first)? Yes. Will Hilary? Yes. Will Obama? Hopefully not.

Edge: Obama.

Nothing else matters.

Posted by: jude111 | June 2, 2008 5:13 AM

Sometimes there is no fool like an EDUCATED one.

Posted by: angelita | June 2, 2008 5:11 AM

I wish the infighting would just end. We are defeating ourselves over this endless "war" over the Democratic nominee! Don't you people get that we need to defeat the Republicans and send them packing?? It is the Republicans who have messed up our country beyond belief by supporting Bush's "policies"! A vote for McCain is more endless war and many more unnecessary deaths! Do you ever ask yourselves how many children in this country alone have been left without their fathers and in some cases their mothers, thanks to Bush?? And in Iraq--the toll must be bottomless!

Where are your hearts? I detest Hillary Clinton now for her devisiveness. This election is all about "Hillary"--it's not about our country! Obama is thoughtful and intelligent--give the man a chance! Hillary has proven herself to be strident, shrewish and totally out for herself. Can you not look thru the color of skin to the person inside? Haven't we had enough of the Clintons? I firmly believe Obama can LEAD, which is something this country has been lacking for a long, long time! Bush has just about destroyed America. Our position in the world is negligible! Super power?? Not for long! Bush managed to screw that up quite handily!

And to Dan who's been in Iraq, back up and look at the words you wrote...You say you don't believe we should "randomly attack" a country! Well, isn't that exactly what we did?? Iraq did not attack us or hurt any of your family--not on our soil anyway! We should've attacked Saudi Arabia if we were going to attack anybody, but we didn't because that's where "our" oil comes from!

The lack of education in this country is astounding! People here are so uneducated...it is humiliating for those of us who are educated and would like to see our country in a better light. Help our country...stop with the stupid commenting and go out and see what you can do to improve life here! I volunteer two days a week at my county's Democratic headquarters and I talk to hundreds of people each week. How many of the rest of you are doing anything at all? Well, how many of you??

To all those who are planning to desert to McCain, go ahead...and may you all perish from accelerated global warming because I can guarantee you McCain isn't going to do a thing for the environment! All of our problems are going to continue to escalate under more years of Republican "policies"! We may have a riot in this country, but it's not going to be racially motivated--it's going to be an all-out war of Democrats to quash the last remaining wimpdom of Republicans!

Posted by: Klare | June 2, 2008 5:05 AM

Why doesnt Clinton just withdraw she knows there's no way she can win, Obama's 47 delegates short of claiming majority, she's doing the democrats harm by keeping them divided for so long

Posted by: A kid in Australia | June 2, 2008 4:32 AM

I'm still wondering how the Clinton campaign could be serious about MI. She's a crook and a snake. They really think people are dumb and that they just need to invoke the civil rights movement and people will forget that she was the only one on the ballot!

Soviet style elections.

They say that he and Edwards were dumb for taking their names off. She knew better.

Whatever!

Cheat, crook, and privileged lame ass!

Posted by: Redline | June 2, 2008 4:31 AM

2pacolypse,

The Republicans under Newt Gingrich ran on a real platform in '94. Granted, it wasn't a presidential election, but it was arguably the single largest tectonic shift in the political spectrum since the Reagan years (with what Bill Clinton did to the Democratic Party as the only rival).

Posted by: blert | June 2, 2008 4:24 AM

I think this whole thing is just a big joke. I mean come on, none of the candidates have any clue on how to fix this country. How are the dems going to fix the gas price issue? hmmm, lets see, they don't want to drill for oil in the Gulf or Alaska, and i recall reading an article about how Saudi Arabia, a country that supplies a lot of our oil, would prefer a Republican president. The funny thing is that even a Republican won't get them to up production. So unless we become more energy independent instead of relying on the rest of the world, i don't see how they can help. And i don't want to hear about all the alternative fuel crap, because you know what, lower income families will have no way to buy the vehicles that run on the alternative fuels. I thought that maybe someone might realize that the Barnett Shale in Texas would be a good resource for natural gas, which can be made into CNC and power vehicles for a fraction of the cost of gasoline. But no one seems to be on board with that. Dems want to stop production on it, and even the Republicans couldn't wake up and see the resource right there. Don't get me started on the health care issue. More government control over health care and more welfare will just result in a larger deficit for our country, and the dems would just raise the taxes. Of course staying the course of the war would keep the deficit growing as well, but you know what, at least the war creates jobs, for soldiers, for contractors, security firms, pipeliners. It pumps money back into the economy. I never got why everyone gets so upset and calls it a war for oil, because all that the gas prices have done since we've been there is gone up. I don't think that was the intent. If we wanted the oil, we would have taken it by now and the gas prices wouldn't be so high. I'm pretty sure we have other reasons for being there, and we did the Iraqis a favor by getting rid of their dictator, who was such a horrible person, yet they couldn't do anything themselves about it. I find that funny, after we got rid of him, now they are wanting us to get out and the media loves it, eats up all the negatives about the war. If people want the economy to change, think about the things that affect the economy, I can name quite a few, illegal immigration, outsourcing of jobs, too much welfare and other government handouts, giving government funding to state schools that do studies about the most ridiculous things, those are just a few things off the top of my head. How about social security, it's a sham, a big failure. Look at how Rome fell, what did they start doing before their demise? Handing out free bread, hmmm, that sounds familiar to our lovely welfare, food stamp system we have going. What about the reduction of their military while still being stretched out all over the world. Yeah i think there are many politicians that want to limit the size of the military yet let our troops run off to peace keeping operations, leaving our country wide open. What about giving out more citizenship to almost anyone who would take it, if they could pay, sounds like some amnesty to me. Plus people in Rome left the policies that made it great, look at what made this country great and the things that people want to do nowadays, i think the founding fathers would be reeling in their graves. I don't think that any candidate can fix this, I don't buy into Obama's popularity and racial campaign, i don't care what you say, it is racial, 90% of african americans were voting for him in some primaries, and it is a popularity thing, if you watch his rallies, people act like he's a rock star. Hillary is no better, her policies are the same as Obama's, and she is running off of the hispanic votes in some states, and making it a thing about status in life, trying to shore up blue collar support. McCain is no good either, he has been a maverick, and I don't think he's a conservative at all, his immigration policies are abhorrent and I don't think he has any better chance to fix this country than the other two. But when it all comes down to it, i can't see any other choice, if he promises to uphold some of the values the founding fathers had, i'll have to vote for him. I'm a disgruntled young, educated person, raised with values, and thought i'd be a Republican till McCain got the nomination. I almost sat out the election, but after seeing where this country would head if the dems win, I will grit my teeth, vote R, and i will cancel out one liberal vote. Good day to everyone. I have no hatred or resentment to anyone for their views. I know i'll get bashed for some of mine, but that's alright, I'm going to be above it all. ;]

Posted by: just a thought | June 2, 2008 4:06 AM

Obama will NEVER get my vote. NEVER.

He has never done anything to warrant getting my vote, therefore I don't care what HE needs.

America needs someone who has been around the block a few times to get things done. Nancy Pelosi has also done NOTHING worth mentioning since she has taken the gavel.

Everyone supporting Obama has been past losers. Doesn't that tell you anything?

Posted by: How dare you | June 2, 2008 3:53 AM

Republicans are chickens...

That's why they move to their pearly white suburbs and believe the military will protect them and save their pretty fake blond wives.

I think punching Republicans is like hitting women. They are soft, all mouth, and can't back up their words.

If they could, they wouldn't have to hide behind their cops and soldiers, the puny conformist fascist pigs.

Any time, Republican Hawks.

Or would you prefer to let the military handle it.


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In theory what you have posted may be true. However, what does that make us Democrats who time after tme after time allow the the Republicans to pimp slap us in general elections with Willie Horton ads, or stealing entire elections, or swiftboating us to death. I mean when have the Republicans had a real platform to run on since the Reagan years? But yet, they inject fear mongering, race baiting tactics, and fake military stances that get them elected by morons. These same morons who's put Bush in office for two terms who's basically ruined all of our quality of life is considering voting for John McCain. You've got to be kidding me? The more shocking is the scorned HRC lovers who wanna vote McCain because their boo can't win the nomination and their ignorance of not voting for Obama is clearly race related, would rather have another 4 years of republican misery than have 4 years of democratic prosperity. To me that's self serving, selfish politics that has no place on the big stage.

Posted by: 2pacolypse | June 2, 2008 3:53 AM

Hello Micky,

Even though I originated from the third world, I am very much impressed by your intelligence. Are you a psychologist? I wonder why people can't see that Obama is playing on American's intelligence.

Go President Hillary!

Posted by: Disappointed | June 2, 2008 3:50 AM

Why is it that when Hillary was expected to win Super Tuesaday none of the Obama or Edwards supporters went about claiming that they would rather vote for the Republicans than Hillary. The truth of the matter is that Hillary had the advantage of being white and a former first lady but she blew her early lead. How can she then be more electable if she could not close the deal with a party she as lead for the past 16 years.

Posted by: Another educated young man | June 2, 2008 3:49 AM

Obama/ Hillary - The warm-up will wear them out!

Pl read my views in my blog:
http://blogs.siliconindia.com/shashikadapa/

Posted by: Shashi Kadapa | June 2, 2008 3:48 AM

Republicans are chickens...

That's why they move to their pearly white suburbs and believe the military will protect them and save their pretty fake blond wives.

I think punching Republicans is like hitting women.

They are soft, all mouth, and can't back up their words.

If they could, they wouldn't have to hide behind their cops and soldiers, the puny conformist fascist pigs.

Any time, Republican Hawks.

Or would you prefer to let the military handle it.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 3:43 AM


A broad win for the Broad, though not as deep as she might like it.

Unfortunately,

Puerto Rico doesn't count,

Unless Obama says 57, in which case, he's the Crazy one...

What a bunch of hypocritical liars.

You people are really pushing me.

Posted by: A Broad Win. | June 2, 2008 3:39 AM

"Clinton's Win Broad and Deep"

But the turnout was puny: under 400,000 total.

Posted by: herzliebster | June 2, 2008 3:33 AM

McCain supports war but won't vote for a GI Bill that benefits our Vets? Has a terrible voting record on Veteran's issues. Supports outsourcing of military contracts to a foreign country when Americans need the jobs, not to mention the security implications. Supports a gas tax holiday that would only benefit the oil companies. Who would vote for him?

Posted by: connect the dots | June 2, 2008 3:12 AM

I think this whole thing is just a big joke. I mean come on, none of the candidates have any clue on how to fix this country. How are the dems going to fix the gas price issue? hmmm, lets see, they don't want to drill for oil in the Gulf or Alaska, and i recall reading an article about how Saudi Arabia, a country that supplies a lot of our oil, would prefer a Republican president. The funny thing is that even a Republican won't get them to up production. So unless we become more energy independent instead of relying on the rest of the world, i don't see how they can help. And i don't want to hear about all the alternative fuel crap, because you know what, lower income families will have no way to buy the vehicles that run on the alternative fuels. I thought that maybe someone might realize that the Barnett Shale in Texas would be a good resource for natural gas, which can be made into CNC and power vehicles for a fraction of the cost of gasoline. But no one seems to be on board with that. Dems want to stop production on it, and even the Republicans couldn't wake up and see the resource right there. Don't get me started on the health care issue. More government control over health care and more welfare will just result in a larger deficit for our country, and the dems would just raise the taxes. Of course staying the course of the war would keep the deficit growing as well, but you know what, at least the war creates jobs, for soldiers, for contractors, security firms, pipeliners. It pumps money back into the economy. I never got why everyone gets so upset and calls it a war for oil, because all that the gas prices have done since we've been there is gone up. I don't think that was the intent. If we wanted the oil, we would have taken it by now and the gas prices wouldn't be so high. I'm pretty sure we have other reasons for being there, and we did the Iraqis a favor by getting rid of their dictator, who was such a horrible person, yet they couldn't do anything themselves about it. I find that funny, after we got rid of him, now they are wanting us to get out and the media loves it, eats up all the negatives about the war. If people want the economy to change, think about the things that affect the economy, I can name quite a few, illegal immigration, outsourcing of jobs, too much welfare and other government handouts, giving government funding to state schools that do studies about the most ridiculous things, those are just a few things off the top of my head. How about social security, it's a sham, a big failure. Look at how Rome fell, what did they start doing before their demise? Handing out free bread, hmmm, that sounds familiar to our lovely welfare, food stamp system we have going. What about the reduction of their military while still being stretched out all over the world. Yeah i think there are many politicians that want to limit the size of the military yet let our troops run off to peace keeping operations, leaving our country wide open. What about giving out more citizenship to almost anyone who would take it, if they could pay, sounds like some amnesty to me. Plus people in Rome left the policies that made it great, look at what made this country great and the things that people want to do nowadays, i think the founding fathers would be reeling in their graves. I don't think that any candidate can fix this, I don't buy into Obama's popularity and racial campaign, i don't care what you say, it is racial, 90% of african americans were voting for him in some primaries, and it is a popularity thing, if you watch his rallies, people act like he's a rock star. Hillary is no better, her policies are the same as Obama's, and she is running off of the hispanic votes in some states, and making it a thing about status in life, trying to shore up blue collar support. McCain is no good either, he has been a maverick, and I don't think he's a conservative at all, his immigration policies are abhorrent and I don't think he has any better chance to fix this country than the other two. But when it all comes down to it, i can't see any other choice, if he promises to uphold some of the values the founding fathers had, i'll have to vote for him. I'm a disgruntled young, educated person, raised with values, and thought i'd be a Republican till McCain got the nomination. I almost sat out the election, but after seeing where this country would head if the dems win, I will grit my teeth, vote R, and i will cancel out one liberal vote. Good day to everyone. I have no hatred or resentment to anyone for their views. I know i'll get bashed for some of mine, but that's alright, I'm going to be above it all. ;]

Posted by: just a thought | June 2, 2008 3:06 AM

Hillary Clinton should learn to be a good sportswoman and accept defeat in good faith. Politics is not a do or die affair and no candidate should be bigger than his or her party. But with the look of things it seems she is the one telling the party what to do whereas it ought to be the other way round. The fact still remains that she underestimated Obama and she is paying dearly for it now.As for her claim that she is a better candidate or that she is more electable than Obama, she cannot prove that these same group of people will not let her down during the general elections if she were the nominee. Politics is very unpredictable; I dont think she realizes that.I have nothing against her, I just believe we should have a clean break from the past and have new and fresh ideas injected into the politics of this country.

Posted by: ukandu | June 2, 2008 2:55 AM

What is wrong with half of you people, This country is in the shape that it is in because of the so call Great leader, and now you would like to put a person in his place that about a year from now, want even know his name. I do not back Hillary because she throw any thing at you and tell you to take that. She tells fairy tales, but we know what it is really. I do not know what Obama will do if he wins this election,but I bet it will be better than paying Five dollars for a gallon of gas, Three dollars for a doz. of eggs, Four dollars for a gallon of milk and Paying the Ins. Company Three Thousand In preimun, go to the doctor and pay Twenty Five dollars Co-pay and then get a bill four Three Hundred later because the Ins. Company paid Seventy dollars on a three hundred bill. and by the way that was the doctor they sent me to.

Posted by: Very Concern | June 2, 2008 2:44 AM

I accidentally stumbled across these postings regarding the election. And I have to ask -- do you all hear the hatred in your words and voices? There is no way we can ever come together in this country if we choose to have hatred toward our fellowman or woman! You have a right to choose the candidate of your choice -- but do you have to attack the candidate's personal character? They have loved ones who have feelings just like you. And none of us have the right to act like spoiled brats because we may not get the "candidate" we want. Let's grow up and stick to the issues of these candidates instead of tearing them down or accusing them of things that we have no facts on!!! With all this hatred, I am praying for protection for all our candidates democratic and republican. I pray that the love of God would enter all of your hearts today and that He would give you wisdom on whom you should vote for.

Posted by: VC | June 2, 2008 2:40 AM

"Broad and Deep" - ?

I thought it HAD to be a joke.

She won Puerto Rico, "Broad and Deep?"

That's a good one.

That's almost as important as a "Broad and Deep" win in the Rust Belt, except it doesn't count.

Didn't know Puerto Rico was so diverse.

"Broad and Deep" - That's a Good One, LoL !

Posted by: I got your Broad and Deep right here ! | June 2, 2008 2:36 AM

No, we cannot elect him;

That would just be stupid.

Posted by: No O | June 2, 2008 2:22 AM

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Exit Polls: Clinton's Win Broad and Deep

Who Cares???

Can we get on with this and
elect Obama President?

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Posted by: klintonkoolaid | June 2, 2008 2:16 AM

Obama has acted like a Shakespearean fool....he should have declared Hilary as VP to end the simmering fued and keep all democrats happy. However, he does not seem to have any idea what the White House will be without good Democrats around him, and one can only guess who will make up his inner Cabinet. Hilary deserves alot better than being hinted at by the Obama camp that she will have no role to play in November elections.

Posted by: Kingsley Ferdinands of South Brighton | June 2, 2008 2:14 AM

RE:" I'M A OLDER UNEDUCATED VOTER FOR OBAMA | June 2, 2008 1:47 AM "

Not quite. You are an Obama supporter who is in college and grabbing your small manhood while typing this bs. An old uneducated vet would be asleep so he can catch the best possible job the following day. You are wasting away at some preppy-anti-American college typing this crap to try to help Obama.
Soon, Obama will be tried for Treason and a few other crimes along with Pelosi...
Say goodnight and when you wake up say, hello to the only real and most viable candidate and new Commander In Chief, John McCain.

Posted by: jlmeal | June 2, 2008 2:02 AM

To all Hillary voters who threaten to vote for McAnus instead. If you do that and Obama loses the election,do you not think that will go under the radar? Do you think that Hillary will come back and run again and all will be forgotten and forgiven and that you can sabotage an election and all will forget?maybe Obama needs you to come back to the fold, but if there is ever a tomorrrow, Hillary will need a lot of people to come back to the fold , too.Hillary better think about that a little too.

Posted by: majorteddy=== | June 2, 2008 2:00 AM

Republicans support our leaders.

Democrats only support themselves as that is their ONLY interest!

Posted by: Reality sinks in | June 2, 2008 1:56 AM

I agree, we should support our commander-in-chief because he is our president and this is our country.

Unless he is a terrorist himself; = BHO

Posted by: Amen to that | June 2, 2008 1:55 AM

As a 10 year veteran, I've voted for both Republicans, and Democrats, I'm vary patriotic and I would die for my country, I like all the nominees, and I'm voting for what direction I think is best for are country, I was a Clinton supporter but after listening to all the speeches, and watching how each nominee handle diversities, I've decided to support Obama. That being said, there are times when I'm not so proud of my country, and what this election year has shown me is that it's time for change. Politics is a dirty business, so let's make change within are selves and choose a nominee for what is best for the country, not because of his name, or skin color. And whoever the winner is, Clinton, Obama, or McCain, I will stand by my Commander and Chief

Posted by: I'M A OLDER UNEDUCATED VOTER FOR OBAMA | June 2, 2008 1:47 AM

Republicans fight like men

Democrats will die like lambs.

If Obama wins, welcom to the slaughter. Obama will be the one holding the knife, and you will be cutting your own throat.

Posted by: Just move to a different country then | June 2, 2008 1:38 AM

Hey LOU!!

It's young EDUCATED voters who support Obama.

It's old EDUCATED voters who support Obama.

They key word here is: EDUCATED (I know this word really scares you, but try to embrace the facts)

Posted by: jan | June 2, 2008 1:37 AM

It's interesting to see the thoughts of the man who mentioned the 2 X 4.

He has some interesting fantasies; much like democrats that think they can change the world. It's a pipe dream; I'm just not sure what y'all are smokin.

Choose reality if you're making real decisions; choose Obama if you live in Wonderland.

Posted by: Democrat Love
*********************************
what's reality - the Clintons? democratic btw, moron

Posted by: Has McSame figured out which country he wants to bomb? | June 2, 2008 1:34 AM

Dear Jan,

I've been to Iraq and I come from a family of soldiers. It's not OK to RANDOMLY attack other countries; only those who threaten my family. (and actually yours)

You are a media deciple, and your religion is getting fed lies by media people who fail to recognize the benefits of the US in Iraq. Have you been there, it's a much better place because of your president.

Posted by: dan | June 2, 2008 1:34 AM

We really should not get mad at republicans and Bush supporters.

YOU CAN ONLY CURE IGNORANCE WITH EDUCATION.

Posted by: jan | June 2, 2008 1:32 AM

Any GOP supporter, or dumbas s who voted for Bush should LOOSE THEIR RIGHT TO VOTE. We should tax all those fools so they can pay for their own quagmire. It's may be hard for them to remember how good things were before the oil and war lovin' republicans got into office.

GOD FORGIVE AMERICA

THE ROAD TO HELL IS PAVED WITH REPUBLICANS

Posted by: jan | June 2, 2008 1:32 AM

YOUNG EDUCATED VOTER = DUMB OBAMA VOTER WHO'S NOT EVEN WET BEHIND THE EARS

Posted by: LOU | June 2, 2008 1:31 AM

Amazing how America speaks when it's not an All-White race. Does anyone remember when Al Gore had the Most popular votes and still lost? Obama is not running for the blacks? He's running because he's tired of all the lies that were ssid and all the lives that are being lost in a war we shouldn't be in. People go back in your history books and look at Vietnam. We were somewhere we were not suppose to be. Hispanics you need to wake up and quit riding the coat tails of every race. If a Hispanic was running for President the Hispanics would vote for him because he's Hispanic regardless if he has a bad record. Now that RACIST. Wake up America and read between the lines. You talk about how you hate the war and bash McCain for voting for it. HELLO!!! Senator Clinton voted for it also!!! So if we put Clinton in office would it be like putting McCain there also? Partially Yes!!! Would Clinto end the war because she feel it's right or because she just want you to like her? You do the MATH. Let's stop the bickering, race, name calling and Stupidity and use our brains because the Whole World is laughing at how the most powerful Country in the world can't get along with each other. We're loosing to many jobs over seas, gas is way to high, food is to expensive and Yet we're arguing over 3 people. Get Bush out of office and everything will settle down in 1 1/2yrs as long as it's not a republican in office.

Posted by: Cedric | June 2, 2008 1:30 AM

Dan Writes:

"Obama is an actor; popular only for charisma. Bush is a fighter, and anybody who opposes the war discounts 9/11 as a fluke and disrespects the honor of NON-MILITARY personnel that died."

Wow Dan... it sounds like you are also one of those brainwashed people who will do ANYTHING... wrong or right.. because of 911. Bush convinced you it's ok to attack other countries because of your fears. It is the 911 card that has so many people down the wrong track. Bush has had MORE US SOLDIERS KILLED IN IRAQ AS WERE LOST ON 911!! (this does not even count what we like to call "collateral damage") Do you feel better? Your taxes go to blowing up people across the world instead of educating dumbas's like yourself over here. So, Dan, your president uses our tax dollars to fight for "freedom" "liberty" and to kill "terrrorists" ... I ask... who is the real terrorist? I say it is YOU because you are the angry, ignorant, religious freak who thinks it's ok to bomb others across the world (who have done no harm to you)... what is the difference?

Perhaps you should travel a little and gain some perspective.

Posted by: jan | June 2, 2008 1:28 AM

It's interesting to see the thoughts of the man who mentioned the 2 X 4.

He has some interesting fantasies; much like democrats that think they can change the world. It's a pipe dream; I'm just not sure what y'all are smokin.

Choose reality if you're making real decisions; choose Obama if you live in Wonderland.

Posted by: Democrat Love | June 2, 2008 1:28 AM

any hot men up?

Posted by: shahid@yahoo.com | June 2, 2008 1:24 AM

Obama, Obama, Obama
Abba Cadebra
Obama, Obama, Obama

Posted by: bhp | June 2, 2008 1:24 AM

it;s sad, that race is an issue in 2008.how long will it take for all americans to learn that we all are god, children that why he put us here on earth. we need to stop been devisive,join hands ,we might be surprised what we can learn from each others

Posted by: dora smith | June 2, 2008 1:24 AM

Vote for Obama the new grown up Michael Jackson.He just needs more time and he will be white!

Posted by: Andrew O'Donnell | June 2, 2008 1:16 AM

Agreed, brother.....

Posted by: GoObama | June 2, 2008 1:23 AM

Hello all "educated" ladies and gentlemen, I have minimal education, but I can tell you this, "I'm not impressed with your comments, the language (spelling, grammar and the use of English), the name calling, and the irrational resentment toward people who have less favorable view about your beloved Obama. I can understand why you're mad at Republicans, but I can't understand your fanatical following of a young and inexperienced politician who has been raised in a hate-inspired church for over 20 years. The evidences of that influence are so clear, reflecting in both Obama and Michelle who never have the love for this country until the ambition of the most powerful position in the world started to become a possibility.

I doesn't make sense to me how education can lead you to this choice. Getting mad at the current administration doesn't mean that we need to make a worse choice. Please review your study and think about your decision again. I hope you do not follow the media and the hype and turn this country into a failed socialist state.

Posted by: shahid@yahoo.com | June 2, 2008 1:20 AM

Vote for Obama the new grown up Michael Jackson.He just needs more time and he will be white!

Posted by: Andrew O'Donnell
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why? Then you would do him?

Posted by: andres O'Donnell is a racist gay... | June 2, 2008 1:18 AM

I hope you do not follow the media and the hype and turn this country into a failed socialist state.

Posted by: shahid
***********************
Hope you go f**k yourself with a 2 by 4...

Posted by: shahid has minimal education - no s**t... | June 2, 2008 1:17 AM

Hi All . . . Looks like a lot of Wackadoodle supporters tonight . . . am enjoying the ripe bravado . . . have seen how the liberals have messed up NJ, MD, CT, NY and PA . . . can't wait till they try to mess up the rest of the US . . . Lots of words, but little substance.

. . . . as to Obama supporters . . . in my narrow travels, haven't met one that actually admits it . . . met quite a few republicans that voted for Obama (to mess Hillary up) . . . but no real Obama supporters . . . will assume they are all hiding in NJ.

Enjoyably Yours

Posted by: TopGun | June 2, 2008 1:16 AM

Vote for Obama the new grown up Michael Jackson.He just needs more time and he will be white!

Posted by: Andrew O'Donnell | June 2, 2008 1:16 AM

Hello all "educated" ladies and gentlemen, I have minimal education, but I can tell you this, "I'm not impressed with your comments, the language (spelling, grammar and the use of English), the name calling, and the irrational resentment toward people who have less favorable view about your beloved Obama. I can understand why you're mad at Republicans, but I can't understand your fanatical following of a young and inexperienced politician who has been raised in a hate-inspired church for over 20 years. The evidences of that influence are so clear, reflecting in both Obama and Michelle who never have the love for this country until the ambition of the most powerful position in the world started to become a possibility.

I doesn't make sense to me how education can lead you to this choice. Getting mad at the current administration doesn't mean that we need to make a worse choice. Please review your study and think about your decision again. I hope you do not follow the media and the hype and turn this country into a failed socialist state.

Posted by: shahid | June 2, 2008 1:15 AM

######

Exit Polls: Clinton's Win Broad and Deep

Who Cares???

Can we get on with this and
elect Obama President?

########

Posted by: klintonkoolaid | June 2, 2008 1:13 AM

Obama is an actor; popular only for charisma. Bush is a fighter, and anybody who opposes the war discounts 9/11 as a fluke and disrespects the honor of NON-MILITARY personnel that died.

It doesn't matter why we're fighting in the Middle East; only that we're being proactive with terrorism. By the way, How do y'all feel about having a terrorist sympathizer for your commander-in-chief?

A vote for Obama is a vote for an economic collapse of the USA. I'd rather have Hillary or John to protect your children from the agony of thousands of 9/11 events with no retaliation from a wimp that will only try to defend us by repeating, "we're a peace-loving country; please don't hurt us anymore." And then they will.

Posted by: Dan | June 2, 2008 1:13 AM

Hi All . . . Looks like a lot of Wackadoodle supporters tonight . . . am enjoying the ripe bravado . . . have seen how the liberals have messed up NJ, MD, CT, NY and PA . . . can't wait till they try to mess up the rest of the US . . . Lots of words, but little substance.

. . . . as to Obama supporters . . . in my narrow travels, haven't met one that actually admits it . . . met quite a few republicans that voted for Obama (to mess Hillary up) . . . but no real Obama supporters . . . will assume they are all hiding in NJ.

Enjoyably Yours

Posted by: TopGun | June 2, 2008 1:10 AM

Forget about Hillary Clinton. Obama can win without her. Let her voters vote for McCain. What Obama needs to win are those Reagan Democrats and disgruntled Republicans and in order for him to do that he needs a conservative VP. He needs a well respected American hero. He needs a running mate who the entire world would welcome. He needs a man with experience in foreign affairs. He needs someone on the ticket that will shock Rush Limbaugh, Shawn Hannity, and the rest of the pundits and make them second guess themselves. He needs a man who will take away more of the republicans than Dems would loose if the Hilliary voters stay at home or vote for McCain. Sen Obama needs the Equalizer Former Sec of State, Former Joint Chiefs and General Colin Powell on his Ticket. That would be a guarantee into the White House and instant respect and credibility around the world. An Obama Powel ticket is the key to a landslide victory. The real dream ticket. The question is, can Sen Obama pull that off.

Posted by: pt109rick | June 2, 2008 1:02 AM

Alright for Hillary!

Come on South Dakota and Montana!! Deliver for us a wonderful margin on Tuesday!! =)

Dems White House '08

Go Obama!!

Alright for the educated voter of youth!!! I trust you will not be in to give us "a third consecutive term" =) We needed your segment of societ before the rest gave us the current. I'm excited you are paying attention. You are the way of the future. Help decide the course you envision this country taking. '08

Posted by: Obama2008 | June 2, 2008 1:00 AM

It's interesting that a lot of Obama's supporters in this site are young and educated and I respect that. I'm in my early 30's and very well educated and after researching both Obama and Clinton's views decided that Clinton will be a better candidate. Obama is definitely good at speeches and claiming that he represents a change that you believe in, but we all know this is politics talking. If he does win the election in November, it will be interesting to actually see if he can really deliver as he promises. Realistically, unless he fires everyone in Washington DC he won't be able to deliver what he promises. On the other hand, Hilary may have ties to the old administration and is not the perfect candicate, but we all now her evil and at least know that she can deliver most of what she promised.

Posted by: Mary | June 2, 2008 12:57 AM

The way President Obama will WIN is because there are so many new voters and young people who are sick of the system in Washington. We are sick of the war... the lies. New voters are mostly voting for Obama. We are sick of seeing our soldiers killed in Iraq and knowing they are stuck killing people they don't want to kill. This war is so F-ing wrong!! The GOP has screwed our country over for years to come by leading us into an unnecessary and illegal war. People know this... and even some of the small town folk are not that stupid. 8 years of BS is enough to teach us. YES WE CAN .. and will.

GO vote for Obama!! Go educate a dumb'a** republican!!

Posted by: jan | June 2, 2008 12:42 AM

I'M ANOTHER YOUNG EDUCATED VOTER FOR OBAMA

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 12:54 AM

The post just called Hillary a broad.

Heh.

Posted by: HankTheCat | June 2, 2008 12:51 AM

I believe that I, like most americans are so eager to see Bush out of the White House we have failed the voting test again. from the beginning I didn't believe, and still don't beleive Obama has the experience and knowledge to handle the job of president. if you really think about it he is still finding his way around washington as a senator. He is truly and eloquent speaker and his charisma and youth is very inviting, but this is not a popularity contest, and i have missed any real substance his promise for change. I woulld also be less than honest if I didn't admit that his twenty plus years of affiliation with Trinity, Wright, and Flegher?,is of some concern. I refuse to accept that his CLOSE involvement with these individuals on the years didn't give him a clue about thier values and beliefs, or that he could have maintained such a close relationship with thme without sharing some of them. Bottom line, Under Obama the United States will either move 100 years into the future or back 100 years. I guess we will have to wait and see.

Posted by: Earl | June 2, 2008 12:49 AM

IM VOTING FOR OBAMA!!!
hes part of my tribe, and my clan!

Posted by: Montana Native American | June 2, 2008 12:48 AM

Don't be bashing people with labels, my educated friend. We, 90% of the Blacks are loving people, we love Mc Cain, we love Hillary, but we can't ignore of the fact that our brother Obama is the one who deserves most. Think about it, my educated friend... After all, we will all be brothers, once Obama is our president. Mc Cain, Hillary if they try to call you brothers and sisters???? Got it?

Posted by: bhp | June 2, 2008 12:48 AM

It is amazing to me how many racists and ignorant (non-educated) people respond here. It is also amazing to me that Republicans even have the balls to come to a chat room and blah blah blah after the most pathetic, most shameful years of our American history. Frankly.. if you voted for Bush two times you should have your right to vote REVOKED!! ... AND .. let's raise taxes for all those two time Bush supporters so they can pay for their own quagmire! Seriously, how can anyone come in here and even think about praising McLame. He is an old, war lovin', FART. Let's get with it people... the world is watching!

America is ready for change... the intelligent people who understand the real issues seem to overwhelmingly support Obama. Yes... there will always be ignorant folks will vote republican (no matter what happen and with blinders on. Smart people make them nervous. Some are caught up in what a pastor says or an american flag pin. The funny thing is that these are the same folks who can be controlled, manipulated and brainwashed by using the word "freedom" or making any reference to "God-fearin' Jesus-lovin' 'mericans" ... conjur up a tear in the eye etc... And really... who should care what the pastor says? (true or not... ) The fact that Obama has experience outside of Christianity might only mean that he does NOT have those blinders on and that he has more perspective than the one and only one they taught you! Perspective is a GOOD thing!!! Those who think Jesus is IT and that all other religions do not count are seriously living in a bubble.. (similar to the Muslims they accuse of being "terrorists".)

The way President Obama will WIN is because there are so many new voters and young people who are sick of the system in Washington. We are sick of the war... the lies. New voters are mostly voting for Obama. We are sick of seeing our soldiers killed in Iraq and knowing they are stuck killing people they don't want to kill. This war is so F-ing wrong!! The GOP has screwed our country over for years to come by leading us into an unnecessary and illegal war. People know this... and even some of the small town folk are not that stupid. 8 years of BS is enough to teach us. YES WE CAN .. and will.

GO vote for Obama!! Go educate a dumb'a** republican!!

Posted by: jan | June 2, 2008 12:42 AM

to: Obama voters are racists

If you what you are saying is true... then why is it also true that the non-racist ... EDUCATED folks are voting for Obama. It seems like the racists are the McLame supporters along with HRC racist democrats.

Smarten up... learn... those who do end up supporting Obama.

Posted by: jan | June 2, 2008 12:40 AM

I think we Democrats must come in to Unity,
my favourite Pr.Bush, failed to be so...he lied to America and he lied to me and to my ciuntry too...So in this round let us be wise..stop being emotional...donot foget that we all are looking for a change and a chnge which includes basic change...that is Obama 08' ..I alos agree that Hillary Clinton does good for this purpouse, but Her Husand's History will hurt us in the Novemeber if we choose her...his ugly Sacndal ...there might be hidden inforation on it in the hand of the Republicans..guys let us be wise...Let us not be fool by exhibiting hatered online...Obama and Hillary are from one team..so for me no need of quoting McCain..he is totally out of touch and he is not in our Pale...by the way..i thought our nation has the best people in the whole world who speek truth and just but some people try to confuse that picute by putting some non-sense comments about the primaires result...I think and can see clearly that every body loves both Obama and Hillary well, so they used that good will and competed and the result here is what we see it now...and if the process leads most of us to that fact that the Nominee should be Hillary then she will be and if not then Obama will be..it is simple and clear ..but some subtle republicans want to play a race or false past history game about false politics..i want to remind them the book of MAcClouf/Scouth..like that who was the Press Secretary in white house..that is enbough for them and about them...
For Democarts who are filled with anger in the DNC decision, just try to calm down and if any body is there still struggling with Racism...do not forget it is and was the hardest issue to hadle even among the nation's church history..still Blacks prefer to go blacks church which is very weak menatlity and also WHites like and feel right to go to a white majority church..so we all know that this time we have a half black and a half white Presedential Nominee so let us try to reconcile our difference and get the work done...
Lastly, Guys let me tell u one thing..."when we think about this electioin...we should forget about the past and look for our FUTURE.." as i know americans are the first people to help others in world..then i dont think we will be failling with any trap of bottlenecked mindedness that favours popularity than practicality...in this case we failled as it is in the Bush's case..let us be honest for ourself when we make our vote between Obama and Clinton or Obama and McBush!!!
We are the People...let us act like the real democrats..the fakes are the republicans.!!!!

Posted by: Faithy | June 2, 2008 12:39 AM

good to see all you guys writing your hearts down.
but one thing i have seen is that some uneducated are still so behind that they are like mugabe.

Posted by: james | June 2, 2008 12:38 AM

Obama sucks royally. Just like all the communist Dems, he will tax you to death and laugh all the way to the bank.

Posted by: jerk | June 2, 2008 12:33 AM

Just because he is black, you ignorants don't vote for him, Obama the Great. Just because he is black, We The Black Community will invest 90% of our votes in him. Whites, Asians, Latinos don't be racists, we all need to gather for our brother here. After all, we deserved to be treated this way, don't you think?

Posted by: bhp | June 2, 2008 12:32 AM

president hussein Obama.

Posted by: james | June 2, 2008 12:25 AM

Dont you think Americans havent learnt from the kind of leadership that is handed from father to son,husband to wife or wife to daughter...arent there families that can lead this country? The incumbent president is a good example.Whoz next? Open your eyes!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 12:20 AM

"But those who said race was part of their voting calculus were somewhat less apt to vote for Clinton than were those who said race was not a factor."

This is clearly true across America as well. Obama wins 90+% of black votes in heavily populated urban areas and due to the skewed allocation of delegates in the democratic primary he wins a lot of delegates. It is clear that those who favor him actually favor his race.

He will not win in the general election because the general election does not use a skewed proportional allocation system. He will lose in every big state and he will lose BIG.

You can take this to the bank ...

Posted by: Obama voters are racists | June 2, 2008 12:15 AM

The way President Obama will WIN is because there are so many new voters and young people who are sick of the system in Washington. We are sick of the war... the lies. New voters are mostly voting for Obama. We are sick of seeing our soldiers killed in Iraq and knowing they are stuck killing people they don't want to kill. This war is so F-ing wrong!! The GOP has screwed our country over for years to come by leading us into an unnecessary and illegal war. People know this... and even some of the small town folk are not that stupid. 8 years of BS is enough to teach us. YES WE CAN .. and will.

GO vote for Obama!! Go educate a dumb'a** republican!!

Posted by: jan | June 2, 2008 12:42 AM

I'M ANOTHER YOUNG EDUCATED VOTER FOR OBAMA

Posted by: | June 2, 2008 12:54 AM

____________

Try to be a whole lot less self-cetered and a whole lot more aware of voter demographics.

73% of voters do NOT have a college degree

75% of voters are from households with LESS than a $75,000 income.

The 'under-35' voters are LESS than 12-15% of all voters.

You are screwed on the demographics.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 12:01 AM

Another Big Win...in a Big State...with him only leading by 100 some delegates...Hillary in 2009!!!!

Posted by: Hillary in 2009 | June 1, 2008 11:57 PM

the most qualified person dropped out of the race- namely Bill Richardson.
Voting for someone simply because he's black and speaks well is a vote lost. For those that think Obama is owed this- give me five reasons why, if you please. Most of you ca't. The next few months should be interestig. You want to go from one inexperienced person to another. Sad, so sad.

Posted by: native american | June 1, 2008 11:54 PM

The poll results are most interesting only because they are totally irrelevant. By that I mean the voters in Puerto Rico on not representative of anything but the territory. Yes, Senator Clinton won the election but the voters will not vote in November. What you see is a misrepresentation of polling results, boiled for the sake of making news. The Washington Post wonders why readers are disappearing. Poorly understood methods and the need to make hay of nothing only contribute. Whether one is for either or none of the candidates, this is making news at its worst.

Posted by: schwatka | June 1, 2008 11:54 PM

But I guarantee when he was listening to Rev. Wright for 20 years he wasn't thinking about the white side of his family!!!!

Posted by: jeannie | June 1, 2008 10:05 PM

and also never disappointed with those preaching and comments. Now he is dis-appointment because all the rest of the nation is hearing. He is real joke.
He spent all his life in the name of community service to learn people and politics so that he can strengthen his political skills. Read this article http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Barack_Obama/%22new_politics%22)
Also for this election BHO launched the new web site, HILLARYATTACKS
on Decemebr 3, 2007 with links to articles alleging attacks by HRC and, 'TheHillary Attacks Timeline'. BHO head quarters asked supporters for help.

Posted by: neutral | June 1, 2008 11:53 PM

America is far from being beautiful. The people in this country have to much racism in their eyes. We are a divided country where whites are going to support only whites regardless of their stand. Who cares about war, they have been killing blacks and others races forever. Blacks in America are still enslaved in all ways possible and cannot bring about any type of a change. Other races will rule this country one day soon because whites only concentrate on keeping the blacks down and other races are on the rise in this country. That goes to show the ignorance of white america and the struggles of black america. This country is sad. Our former presidents have destroyed this country. We need to give somebody a chance to help us but racism stands in the way of getting the help this country truly needs. You people need to seek God. John McCain is going to ruin us even more. Its sad. I can only pray. God bless those families who has had to suffer through war and have lost love ones.

Posted by: God Help America | June 1, 2008 11:52 PM

Alright for Hillary!

Come on South Dakota and Montana!! Deliver for us a wonderful margin on Tuesday!! =)

Dems White House '08

Go Obama!!

Posted by: Obama2008 | June 1, 2008 11:47 PM

Hillary is the better option.Democrats should let Puerto Rico(Largely democrat territory)vote in the general elections this November.I mean it would most likely be a 7(D) to 3(R)and it woudl be around 2 million votes...

Posted by: Julio | June 1, 2008 11:47 PM

Alright for Hillary!

Come on South Dakota and Montana!! Deliver for us a wonderful margin on Tuesday!! =)

Dems White House '08

Go Obama!!

Posted by: Obama2008 | June 1, 2008 11:45 PM

The Primary IN Peurto Rico is clear and as Sen.Clinton has proved she is the best candidate to beat McCain in the fall. She is that Candidate who can make Democrat win in the General Election. It's regretable that the DNC has nt allowed Florida and Michigan to seat their full delegate and its a shame for Nancy Pelosi for Her Bias views.

Posted by: Akivaah | June 1, 2008 11:43 PM

it is so difficult for me to read the endorsements" of Hillary Clinton. Maybe those who support this woman, should go on the internet and discover for yourselves what she really is about. (read about her giving money to the PLO and Hamas..) perhaps you agree with that, but I surely do not. Read about her underhandedness in hiding money, lying at almostevery opportunity to cover her vile acts calling into play anything she can to get what she wants. You all know this, but cannot vote for Sen Obama,because???? even today we heard her lie that she is just a "little bit behind " in total delegates Huh? she needs more than 200, and Obama needs 48. Popular vote? by good authority, she is not counting caucuses won by Sen Obama, so how can she preach such drivel? Every person I know, thinks she is beyond despicable. But then, we are all college graduates and can think for ourselves. Can you??
seattle slew

Posted by: seattle slew | June 1, 2008 11:42 PM

All you so called Democrats who say you will vote for McSame, more power to you.

Your pettiness will bring you even more of the hardship the Bush administration has rained down on you, your children and this nation over the last 8 years.

I pray for you as those xx+ members you quote that make up your various families face the loss of loved ones in the ill-gotten Iraq War. A draft is sure to come, and your sons will suffer and die, because if McSame wins a draft is inevitable. You see, we will be unable to keep up war on two fronts for as long as McSame says he is willing to without the draft!

I pray for your daughters who will have to live without the protection of Roe v Wade.

I pray for your families whose economic well being will continue to erode. Just compare where you were 8 years ago and where you are today.

I pray for your deteriorating health as health care becomes ever more elusive for you to have. You will become more and more unable to buy medical care and prescriptions as McSame's $4000 tax credit per family goes into effect vs the $12000 annual medical insurance cost for the average family.

I pray for ...

The list is endless. The only thing that makes me sad is that you will be taking all of us who are above your pettiness down with you, as you become part of that crowd that subjected us to the horror of GW Bush in the last two elections.

So, I guess all I can say in the end is good vote and GOOD LUCK. Because of you (if McSame wins)our country will need it!

Posted by: vgirl1 | June 1, 2008 11:41 PM

Hillary will be a "shoe in" allright - but it isn't polite to say where the shoe will be. She bought a senator's seat and she is about to be thrown out. What a carpetbagger! Why didn't she run for a seat from Penn.? Doesn't she claim to have "roots" there?

Posted by: Induke | June 1, 2008 11:37 PM

BHO is friends with a former PLO leader/member and now a faculty in Columbia university Rashid Khalidi, William Ayers a Weather Underground a known terrorist sympathizer and bombed New York who for BHO's senate race had a fund raiser in his house. He also attended Lois Farrakhan's million march.. All these are not just formal friends, he close ties with them over long time.
It is nice to see African American running for a president and coming this far but it does matter which African American we encourage , not a candidate with his 'Present' Voting record and association with people with questionable backgrounds. Read the article,
http://www.newswithviews.com/BreakingNews/breaking55.htm

Posted by: lydia_k62 | June 1, 2008 11:37 PM

McCain... hahahah... what a joke!

It's kind of weird... as a government employee they make you retire at 65 or so.... But for some reason, an old dumb-a** Fart like McCain can run for the highest office although he is as old as dirt and totally out of touch with reality. oh... older than the other govt. employees who had to retire.

Why is that?

This guy should worry about playing cards at the old folks home... or maybe battleship (the game) to get his war loving rocks off.

Posted by: jan | June 1, 2008 11:33 PM

So, Clinton wins Puerto Rico. So what?? It doesn't change a thing. She lost the nomination. Obama won. Time to move on.

Posted by: leslie | June 1, 2008 11:29 PM

Hillary is already positioning for 2012. She expects Obama to lose in 2008 (and she certainly won't help him either). She will then be able to say "I told you so" and be ready as shoe-in in 2012

Posted by: PGR88 | June 1, 2008 11:28 PM

There is no doubt that mathematically
Mrs. Hillary Clinton has no posibility
of winning the nomination of the Democratic
Party.
As for the results of the general election
in November, there is no doubt in my mind
that John Mc Cain will be the winner since
he represents the true values of America
from Patriotism thru Honesty. He is the
only one experienced to work with local and
foreign affairs for the benefit of our
country.

Posted by: Leonides Villalon | June 1, 2008 11:22 PM

Hurray!!! Peter's Principle is alive and well ... be it McCain or Obama, it'll be 4 more years of incompetence ... we Americans never learn ... tsk, tsk, tsk!

Posted by: emdiel | June 1, 2008 11:22 PM

Senator Clinton's win in Puerto Rico is meaningless. Why, Ms Kornblut,, are you hyping it up.

Senator Obama needs just a few pledge or superdelegates to take him over the top. Senator Clinton needs around 250. She can't win.

And, her use the popular gambit will fail, too. She was knocked down by the Rule Committee on Saturday, even by some of her supporters. If she tries the Credential Committee they will refuse her.

It is time for her to gracefully, if she can, exit the stage.


Posted by: Peter | June 1, 2008 11:21 PM

Remember Vincente Fox's remark about illegal mexican immigrants doing the jobs that even BLACKS don't want to do? Racism is alive and well south of the border, and it reaches from the highest level to the lowliest. I have witnessed this remarkably blatant phenomenom up close many times here in socal. I've seen it displayed by rednecks in the midwest, but the latinos have taken it to a much higher and more deeply ingrained level. That's why HRC won all the border states, as I predicted.

Posted by: radicalipriest | June 1, 2008 11:16 PM

The CNN poll is virtually meaningless with such low turnout in a state where the people can not vote in the fall election. Hollow, fleeting victory for the Clintons.

Posted by: Independent | June 1, 2008 11:13 PM

Vote McCain for President and Democrats for Congress. This government needs to be divided. There has been no oversight of the President for the last 7 years. We need the Congress to do its job. Since November, the Democrats have been ineffectual and cowardly while the Republicans have been brazenly contemptuous of the Congress and the public.

No more bumper sticker propaganda. We are at war and the economy is slowing. No more "Democrats want to cut and run", and "Change we can believe". No more "compassionate conservatism" and "Hope". No more "Surge" and "support the troops" when what is meant is escalation and "don't look critically at the strategic failures".

Posted by: David | June 1, 2008 11:06 PM

there 84 in our family supporting hillary..if she doesn't get it we all voting for mccaine..every last one of us...we all figure the worst mccaine could do will be much better than a wishy washy empty suit....

I CAN'T BELIEVE PEOPLE ARE SO BLIND THEY CANNOT SEE OBAMA IS FULL OF B S !HE HAS NO SUBSTANCE, HE NEEDS TO BE A PREACHER NOT A PRESIDENT. HE HAS MANAGED TO BRAINWASH PEOPLE TO THINK HE CAN DO "CHANGE" HA,IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN,THINGS HAVE TO PASS THRU CONGRESS. AND IF OSAMA OBAMA DOES GET THE NOMINATION INSTEAD OF HILLARY WHICH SHOULD GET IT,SHE HAS EVERYTHING GOING FOR HER EXCEPT THE BS OF OBAMA. I SAY CONGRATS PRESIDENT JOHN MCCAIN!

Posted by: elle | June 1, 2008 8:23 PM

Posted by: lucygirl1 | June 1, 2008 11:02 PM

Puerto Ricans are not a racial category. Puerto Ricans lives in the Island of San Juan Bautista de Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico is a US territory. Puerto Ricans has common US citizenship, defense, and currency. Puerto Ricans voted smart. Puerto Ricans supported Senator Hillary Clinton. No Obama.
He lacks experience. No rookies in the White House!

Posted by: mmarii | June 1, 2008 11:02 PM

The nomination is finished. It is time someone told Senator Clinton the truth.

Posted by: Oscar | June 1, 2008 11:00 PM

"Ok, Keith. Anderson Cooper is a friend of mine. I'll make sure he gets your quote on the air because, hey, you're an important guy. NOT!"

Gee Whiz - now I'm really impressed! You're killing me! LOL!

But you're right, I'm not an important guy. But then that's the beauty of a truely democratic system - unimportant guys count!!

And guess what, come election day, I get to null Anderson Whoever with my vote for McCain!!! If that isn't social justice, I don't know what is.

BTW, If you're so proud of yourself, where is your name on the posts? Or is your whole identity tied up in being a friend of "Anderson Whoever" ?

Posted by: Keith | June 1, 2008 10:50 PM

Polls aren't reliable!! Obama will defeat the republicans and McCain. Those Democrats that will vote for McCain are the losers!! Unity!!! Obama 08!!!!!!!!

Posted by: AZ | June 1, 2008 10:43 PM

Hillary would have done better to run as her own person and dump Billbo Baggage. We weren't interested in his third term. But that was her choice. I groaned in disgust every time I saw him. I don't understand hard-core feminists supporting a woman who stood by her man and publicly supported him while he publicly humiliated her. He sent her out onto the news shows to back up the lies. What kind of judgment did she show then? Not so good. I can't feel sorry for that, and that's no reason to vote for someone anyway. But that from a woman who claimed she was no Tammy Wynette, staying home baking cookies and such??? What's with all the blue-collar women anyway? Don't they see they're being used? Don't they remember that arrogant comment? Geez. I'm a yellow-dog democrat, but I find her whole argument hard to buy. That, Hillary, is why this middle-aged white woman didn't vote for you: Not because of some vast left or right wing conspiracy to control my mind.

Posted by: whittrl | June 1, 2008 10:40 PM

I AM SAD THAT ALL POLITICES, SENATE , GOVERNEMENT AND PRESIDENTS ARE NOT HONESTAND LIE WITH AMERICANS PEOPLE. GOD KNOWS AND SAD. WHAT HAPPENEND TO THE WORLD AND TORNADES FLOOD , EARTHQUAKERS AND NBAD STORMS. PLEASE WAKE UP !!!!!!!

Posted by: Doanld harmon | June 1, 2008 10:36 PM

Bill Clinton said that he "can't believe how disrespectful his wife is being treated". What is wrong with this picture?
Does he think we are all idiots?

Posted by: induke | June 1, 2008 10:32 PM

Obama is a kind of jorke. He is a lier. He ai also inexperience person. We get 8 years with inexperience Bush already and aon't have another your years with another jorker.

Posted by: obam | June 1, 2008 10:30 PM


It is amazing to me how many racists and ignorant (non-educated) people respond here. It is also amazing to me that Republicans even have the balls to come to a chat room and blah blah blah after the most pathetic, most shameful years of our American history. Frankly.. if you voted for Bush two times you should have your right to vote REVOKED!! ... AND .. let's raise taxes for all those two time Bush supporters so they can pay for their own quagmire! Seriously, how can anyone come in here and even think about praising McLame. He is an old, war lovin', FART. Let's get with it people... the world is watching!

America is ready for change... the intelligent people who understand the real issues seem to overwhelmingly support Obama. Yes... there will always be ignorant folks will vote republican (no matter what happen and with blinders on. Smart people make them nervous. Some are caught up in what a pastor says or an american flag pin. The funny thing is that these are the same folks who can be controlled, manipulated and brainwashed by using the word "freedom" or making any reference to "God-fearin' Jesus-lovin' 'mericans" ... conjur up a tear in the eye etc... And really... who should care what the pastor says? (true or not... ) The fact that Obama has experience outside of Christianity might only mean that he does NOT have those blinders on and that he has more perspective than the one and only one they taught you! Perspective is a GOOD thing!!! Those who think Jesus is IT and that all other religions do not count are seriously living in a bubble.. (similar to the Muslims they accuse of being "terrorists".)

The way President Obama will WIN is because there are so many new voters and young people who are sick of the system in Washington. We are sick of the war... the lies. New voters are mostly voting for Obama. We are sick of seeing our soldiers killed in Iraq and knowing they are stuck killing people they don't want to kill. This war is so F-ing wrong!! The GOP has screwed our country over for years to come by leading us into an unnecessary and illegal war. People know this... and even some of the small town folk are not that stupid. 8 years of BS is enough to teach us. YES WE CAN .. and will.

GO vote for Obama!! Go educate a dumb'a** republican!!

Posted by: jan | June 1, 2008 10:27 PM

Only 16% of Puerto Ricans voted in the primary--even lower than the very low turnout that had been expected. The exit polls therefore reflect only the views of Puerto Ricans who were motivated to show up.

Posted by: profco | June 1, 2008 10:25 PM

Obama could have waited.

He could have done something,anything,
for eight years while Hillary and Bill
tackled America's woes.Then he would
have been ready.

But noooooo.Does anyone remember how he
got elected in the first place?
He wasn't the Dems nominee.Then the
expected nominee was hit with a battered wife scandal.Enter Obama.
Then his Republican Senate opponent bowed out with a scandal of his own (Jerri Ryan)
leaving Obama against quick fill in
Alan Keyes ,not even from Illinois,and not
exactly popular.Obama didn't have one negative ad run against him. Talk about
opportunist. We in California know about this type of inexperienced "politician",
we have that loser Arnold,who's main
attribute is quoting tired movie cliches.
Obama doesn't even know that porn shops shouldn't be near schools,or how many States there are,and forgets that he went to a Muslim school for years (it's not in his book).

Posted by: Greg | June 1, 2008 10:21 PM

This election is a chance for America to regain its reputation in the world.Thanks to people who didn't think and voted for a Bush dynasty, America is close to becoming history. Obama is right about people in the world being disappointed in America's leadership recently. China is building up using their great Art of War philosophy - which is to rise overnight and surprise your enemy. If you have lived in China you would know that the last thing the world wants is some undemocatic country like China becoming the world super power. I think Americans are abusing democracy by making stupid choices for president. But at least one is hopeful that in its history, America has always had surprises for the world. Bring it now or never and regain your standing and reputation. Chose a president who cuts boundaries of race, culture and more. Out with another Clinton dynasty. Obama will make that new American surprise and regain your rep in the world. The bad news is that Amercians either don't think or suffer from information overload that they can no longer judge crap from truth. Obama is a once in a life time leader. I can bet my life on that, he'll change America better than any Clinton ever did.

Posted by: kisi | June 1, 2008 10:20 PM

Hillary Won California 55 Electoral Votes
Hillary Won Florida 27 Electoral Votes
Hillary Won Indiana 11 Electoral Votes
Hillary Won Kentucky 8 Electoral Votes
Hillary Won Massachusetts 12 Electoral Vote
Hillary Won Michigan 17 Electoral Votes
Hillary Beat McCain in Missouri Republican
Hillary Beat Obama in Nevada Republican Sta
Hillary Won New Hampshire 4 Electoral Votes
Hillary Won New Jersey 15 Electoral Votes
Hillary Won New York 31 Electoral Votes
Hillary Beat McCain in Ohio Republican Stat
Hillary Won Oklahoma a Republican State
Hillary Won Pennsylvania 21 Electoral Votes
Hillary Won Rhode Island 4 Electoral Votes
Hillary Beat McCain in Tennessee Republican
Hillary Won Texas a Republican State
Hillary Beat McCain in Utah Republican Stat
Hillary Won West Virginia Republican State

I think Hillary Wins Electoral College
338-200 against McCain, IF SHE IS THE DNC
Democratic Nominee for President.

Posted by: John Curtiss | June 1, 2008 10:17 PM

These are sad days for America when only a few can silence the voices of its citizens. It is becoming too common for the will of the many to be vetoed by the will of the few. Something is broken and has to be fixed!

SOUTH DAKOTA AND MONTANA: Please make a statement for all of us. Let the pundits and the politicians know that we are not going to take it anymore!


A Texan for Hillary from Day One!

Posted by: vlg in Texas | June 1, 2008 10:17 PM

Obama will never be president --- and yes, you can quote me on that!

Posted by: Keith | June 1, 2008 10:04 PM

Ok, Keith. Anderson Cooper is a friend of mine. I'll make sure he gets your quote on the air because, hey, you're an important guy. NOT!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 1, 2008 10:14 PM

elle - 84 people in your family all supporting Clinton or McCain? That's impressive! I hope they consider donating to McCain (if Hillary doesn't get the nomination or run as an independent) even if it's a few dollars because that will really annoy the Obama supporters and be helpful to McCain.

Posted by: InSearchOfTruth | June 1, 2008 10:12 PM

Yes, it is another King's Solomon decision to let Hillary Clinton implement health care. You are completely right, Asia; and to bash Hillary Clinton now is cruel, but most of all very stupid and self-destructive. Thanks to those, who blocked my stupid, pertinent comments!

Posted by: aepelbaum | June 1, 2008 10:09 PM

Dear Washington Post Editors-
Take 15 minutes to go over to the comparable NY Times story and comments. The level of civility and thoughtfulness in the comments is in marked contrast to the garbage mouth haters who have hijacked the Washington Post comments. There must be something you can do to stop this nonsense.

Really- out of a sense of integrity you could easily shut down the top 20 people in the slash and burn camps of political expression for their flagrant chronic violations of your stated policy.

Show some accountability. Clean these comments of the hate talkers.

Thanks

Posted by: ethel | June 1, 2008 10:07 PM

I have heard it said that Obama is a "great orator". More like a windbag of cliches with no substance. I wish he would tell us exactly what his idea of "change" is. His speeches sound real pretty but when you start to analyze them there is nothing there!!! Give us the details! Also, when it is convenient for him he leans on his so called "white" family history to appeal to blue collar working whites. But I guarantee when he was listening to Rev. Wright for 20 years he wasn't thinking about the white side of his family!!!!

Posted by: jeannie | June 1, 2008 10:05 PM

"Hillary Clinton would not be the nominee, not this year, never, ever! You can quote me on that."

Really now! Well here's a late breaking tidbit:

Obama will never be president --- and yes, you can quote me on that!

Posted by: Keith | June 1, 2008 10:04 PM

What Hillary and her supporters are forgetting in regard to Florida and Michigan is, "rules are rules"..We all have to follow them in life..They did not follow the rules when they held their primaries early., so therefore NONE of their delegates should be assigned to anyone..Let them vote in the general election and that's it..Is this type of "rule breaking" what we can look forward to for the next four years?? If so we are in trouble..

Posted by: Pat | June 1, 2008 10:04 PM

Hilary won't win and is not the stronger candidate. She is looking for a way to bow out with some dignity after losing to an unknown and being the wife of a popular president it doesn't make it easier. But as Nancy Pelosi said, this is some kind of scorch earth policy where she knows she won't win but wants to destroy Obama as much as she can so if he fails she will say " see, I told ya". She'll even destroy the democratic party for her ego. I continue to lose my respect for this woman whom I once thought had some substance.
obama's road is tough, but he will win. After all it is in black history that they only win after taking so much bruises.Obama will emerge as this bruised and battered Champion. But remember that which does not kill you can only make you stronger.

Posted by: kisi | June 1, 2008 10:01 PM

"Right, Keith. Nice try. No Democrat speaks this way but I bet you made Rush proud."

You Obamabots crack me up. Whether it's ditto heads or obamabots, it's the same mold. Bunch of non-thinkers being lead around by their ears. Pathetic.

I voted for McGovern - he was a 'sure bet' - except he got creamed in the election. There are more individuals in America than the party bosses would let you believe.

Also live in Pelosi's district - thought she was great until she disrespected my vote - I don't know who's running against her, but I'm voting for that person!!

Power to the People - Vote McCain

Posted by: Keith | June 1, 2008 10:00 PM

Hilary won't win and is not the stronger candidate. She is looking for a way to bow out with some dignity after losing to an unknown and being the wife of a popular president it doesn't make it easier. But as Nancy Pelosi said, this is some kind of scorch earth policy where she knows she won't win but wants to destroy Obama as much as she can so if he fails she will say " see, I told ya". She'll even destroy the democratic party for her ego. I continue to lose my respect for this woman whom I once thought had some substance.
obama's road is tough, but he will win. After all it is in black history that they only win after taking so much bruises.Obama will emerge as this bruised and battered Champion. But remember that which does not kill you can only make you stronger.

Posted by: kisi | June 1, 2008 9:59 PM

Hillary Clinton's margin among Hispanics has been pretty consistent, and doesn't change no matter how much money Obama spends. If this continues to the general election, considering the fact that McCain is himself not unpopular in that community because of his immigration stance, Obama can kiss California and Nevada goodbye, and Florida won't even be close.

This result, even though P.R. doesn't send electors to the general in November, was a pretty crucial indication that Obama cannot win against McCain. When you add this to the lopsided result in West Virginia, this election is starting to look like a joke.

Posted by: dyinglikeflies | June 1, 2008 9:58 PM

Islam Hussein El-Obama is a racist that hates white poeple and latinos...he is just like everybody else in his church TUCC.

His smelly wife with the chip on her shoulder is a psychotic lunatic that wants to put all white people in their place and give reparations immediately to blacks.

She will have Islam Barry do this by raising taes on white people to 90%...

Don't believe me? It's on El-Obama's web site next to the Black Panther endorsement next to the Hamas endorsement.

Posted by: El Rico | June 1, 2008 9:58 PM

For those illiterate Hillary Clinton supporters, and any super delegate who would not vote for Sen. Obama, and would rather vote for John McCain: here is an advice, come November 2008, when the result of the general election is out, you could go into exile, for the next 8 years.

This also goes for those feminists who were ranting during the DNC Rules Committee meeting yesterday.

Hillary Clinton would not be the nominee, not this year, never, ever! You can quote me on that.

Posted by: Ignatius | June 1, 2008 9:52 PM

"Hillary has the General Election in the bag."

The LOSER of a nomination has the GE 'in the bag'

Based on what? Polls? Polls five months ago said Clinton would win the Democratic nomination in a landslide.

ENOUGH SAID!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 1, 2008 9:50 PM

The Pricans are voting for no one darker than they are. They have always looked at whites as their savior. Its sad but ignorance runs deep.

Posted by: Mr Kaspersky | June 1, 2008 9:48 PM

What the coverage is missing is that Clinton's unusual "arithmetic" about the popular vote (in which Obama gets zero votes from Michigan and she gets over 300,000, like that's a measure of their relative popularity there) hinged on a really big turnout in Puerto Rico

In a big turnout, each percentage point translates into a ton of votes. So her lead from this territory that will not vote in the fall, in a dispute about popular votes when the contest is actually based on the number of delegates, would have been huge -- IF there was a really big turnout just like everywhere else.

Instead, there was a rather small turnout. That's the story we seem to be missing here.

Posted by: Fairfax Voter | June 1, 2008 9:48 PM

WHO IS THE A**HOLE WHO SIMPLY REFERRED TO OBAMA AS "HUESSEIN". WHERE DO YOU LIVE?!!

Posted by: John | June 1, 2008 9:47 PM

I cannot understand for the life of me why Hispanics have not supported Obama en masse. It really makes no sense at all. Like the Bush administration, do you really think she cares about or respects minorities in the country? Has she done anything at all to further our cause? Is this some type of contest of who get to have the upper hand between Blacks and Hispanics in this country. It's akin to crabs in a basket trying to pull each other down before getting eaten up by the same old idiots in Washington.

It's my opinion that most of the rights won by Hispanics in the country were because of the struggles initiated by brave African Americans with forethought and perseverance. Hispanics and other ethnic groups have latched on to African American's coat tails and have reaped the benefits of it. African Americans have been out front taking the brunt of the crap this country dishes out every day and we've been successful in making changes for all people who are considered the "underclass". Has she worked to bring unity with such statements as "I'm more popular with hard working white people, so vote for me". Obama is not responsible for what people around him have said. If fact, he's repudiated the inflamatory racial remarks, even going so far as to leave his own church of twenty years. Unlike Obama, the racially divisive remarks in this democratic contest have come directly from the mouths of the Clintons. Go figure...

To see such a double-cross is really disheartning. What in the world do you owe to her and Bill? I see they really spread the wealth around to all of you. You're only fooling yourself if you buy into the Clinton's nonsense. They've used every insidious tactic in the book to play the race card to their advantage even suggesting assassination. It doesn't get much lower than that. If this is the type of person you want leading you then God help us all.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 1, 2008 9:40 PM

I am BEGGING the Super delegates to do their job and VOTE and ENDORSE Hillary Clinton.
Obama has trended only DOWN since Texas and Hillary has the General Election in the bag. And the plede delegates are very misleading due to the way in which the DNC allocated them. Please look at the popular vote. Please look at the GE Map.
She is also most qualified and TRULY cares about ALL Americans and America; not just the past 6 months; but her entire adult life. The fate of the Presidency is in your hands. Please take this serious and vote for the candidate that WILL win,not maybe, but WILL WIN.. Hillary Clinton.
PLEASE SAVE THE WHITE HOUSE FROM McCAIN AND VOTE HILLARY CLINTON.
SHE WILL WIN! NO GUESS WORK! SHE WILL WIN!

SUPER DELEGATES PLEASE LOOK AT THE PAST CONTESTS, LOCATIONS AND EXIT POLLS. VOTE HILLARY CLINTON.

Posted by: ONLY HILLARY | June 1, 2008 9:38 PM

I completely agree with Greg. Hillary Clinton would have won this election hands down against McCain. Why did Obama choose to run now instead of waiting. If you ask me he is the candidate that had no concern for the Democratic Party. And anybody that thinks he can't lose probably thought Bush could have never won (twice no less)

Posted by: joe | June 1, 2008 9:34 PM

What is wrong with the Hillary die hards?WE ALL ARE DEMOCRATS!!! END OF STORY! IF HILLARY WON I WOULKD SUPPORT HER! IF BARACK WON I WOULD SUPPORT HIM THERE VIEWS ARE NOT SO DIFFERENT!!!!END OF STORY!!!
SO STOP SPWEWING THE SILLY NONsense that you would not SUPPORT BARACK ON LET THAT OLD FART (WE ALL HONOR HIS SERVICE) be the PRES AND BE BUSH'S THIRD TERMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Posted by: alfa | June 1, 2008 9:34 PM

What is the real reason voters don't want Obama to win the candidacy. For once, be honest and examine your conscience truthfully.

Posted by: alrac | June 1, 2008 9:34 PM

WELL.......HILLARY SHOULD BE PRESIDENT NOT OBAMA. I'M SHOCKED HE WAS ALLOWED TO RUN....AMERICA DOES NOT KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THIS MAN. BUT THE DEMOCRATS WILL BE SORRY IF HILLARY ISN'T THE DEMOCRAT NOMINEE. I CAN'T BELIEVE OBAMA'S BRAINWASHING AND TO THE SUPERDELEGATES AS WELL. HILLARY IS THE BETTER CANDIDATE. I'VE ALWAYS BEEN DEMOCRAT BUT IF OSAMA OBAMA WINS I'M GOING REPUBLICAN AND VOTE JOHN MCCAIN!

Posted by: NINA | June 1, 2008 9:32 PM

AloHA Obama - vote McCain!! Make your vote count.

Posted by: Keith | June 1, 2008 9:23 PM

Right, Keith. Nice try. No Democrat speaks this way but I bet you made Rush proud.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 1, 2008 9:29 PM

If Hillary was a serous person, which she is not, only a person interested in Hillary, she would be supporting the good work of an important woman, Alondra de la Parra, a person of substance, a female. A real solid woman, not an echo of a feminist failed past.

Posted by: Richard McDonough | June 1, 2008 9:27 PM

"...They don't care,as long as they are part of the throng.
Obama has lied and gotten away with a very weak history,he has never been a leader,
and he is an opportunist and probably a
egotistical sociopath....I'll vote for McCain,and I'm a lifelong Democrat."

Yep - same boat here - and we have company of millions! NEVER voted Republican - and have voted longer than most Obamaites have been alive! first time for everything!
Cracks me up that the great "Uniter" can't even unite his own party!! Disses his own blood and family with racist "typical white person" comments and suggests that putting down women with "sweetie" is just innocent habit! Bad news guy!!!

AloHA Obama - vote McCain!! Make your vote count.

Posted by: Keith | June 1, 2008 9:23 PM

"Considering the level of scrutiny that Clinton gets, if she was a slacker on the Hill don't you think it would be in the press more"

She is a slacker. If not, what has she accomplished? Can you name a single piece of legislation?

And, no, I'm not that surprised it isn't in the press more just like the press hasn't questioned 35 years of 'experience' that include over 15 years of being a corporate lawyer and 8 years as First Lady.

Being a corporate lawyer is hardly public service and being First Lady hardly constitutes relevant political experience. The vast majority of that 'experience' is thus irrelevant yet she gets a major pass on it.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 1, 2008 9:22 PM

No surprise to me at all: Hillary is a NY Senator, and most Puerto Rican families or PR-Americans live in NY.

Posted by: peace4world | June 1, 2008 9:21 PM

The greatest democratic country will see democracy in full play when Barack Hussein Obama becomes the President of America in Nov 2008. We in the brotherhood are proud of you Barack Hussein Obama for keeping your name and stay out of Trinity church finally. It couldn't be a better strategy which you executed so brilliantly to gain our respect. With you at the helm there will be no more appeasement. Our brothers in Middle East with their oil and we Americans with our military might will come together to form a formidable 'caliph'. Come Nov 2008, you will bring our hope for a change to the White House into reality. Our brotherhood rejoices. You makes us great at last!!

Posted by: safeeali | June 1, 2008 9:20 PM

I cannot understand for the life of me why Hispanics have not supported Obama en masse. It really makes no sense at all. Like the Bush administration, do you really think she cares about or respects minorities in the country? Has she done anything at all to further our cause? Is this some type of contest of who get to have the upper hand between Blacks and Hispanics in this country. It's akin to crabs in a basket trying to pull each other down before getting eaten up by the same old idiots in Washington.

It's my opinion that most of the rights won by Hispanics in the country were because of the struggles initiated by brave African Americans with forethought and perseverance. Hispanics and other ethnic groups have latched on to African American's coat tails and have reaped the benefits of it. African Americans have been out front taking the brunt of the crap this country dishes out every day and we've been successful in making changes for all people who are considered the "underclass". Has she worked to bring unity with such statements as "I'm more popular with hard working white people, so vote for me". Obama is not responsible for what people around him have said. If fact, he's repudiated the inflamatory racial remarks, even going so far as to leave his own church of twenty years. Unlike Obama, the racially divisive remarks in this democratic contest have come directly from the mouths of the Clintons. Go figure...

To see such a double-cross is really disheartning. What in the world do you owe to her and Bill? I see they really spread the wealth around to all of you. You're only fooling yourself if you buy into the Clinton's nonsense. They've used every insidious tactic in the book to play the race card to their advantage even suggesting assassination. It doesn't get much lower than that. If this is the type of person you want leading you then God help us all.

Posted by: Disappointed | June 1, 2008 9:18 PM

I am very proud of Hillary's win in Puerto Rico. She is strong, resilient, and smart. She is proving she can get votes where Obama can't. Also, the longer she stays in, the more hope there is that Obama's past associates will keep bobbing their ugly heads, like Bill Ayers, Rev. Wright, and now Father Pflegler. Who's next? It's shows his poor judgment, if next nothing else.

Posted by: Jane | June 1, 2008 9:14 PM

I am Hillary's supporter. I do not like HRC to be Obama's VP. I do not care who is DN "CRAP" nominee. I do not like Democrats, what they treated Hillary. I am hurt. To be his VP, only a jackpot for Obama. He is a dirty politian. See the news today in youtube , how Obama whited out his opponent 1996 for running for senate in youtube before The voter could vote. He did not success to get rid HRC. She is smarter than you, Obama.
If Democrats have any brain , give my mother respect along the game. She has 50% voters. Why Obama lost in Pa, he was too bussy "EATING WAFFLE"

Posted by: Indo45 | June 1, 2008 9:12 PM

I speak to those who support Obama,and they
don't know why. I know why.

I'll vote for McCain,and I'm a lifelong Democrat.

Posted by: Greg | June 1, 2008 9:05 PM

Greg, Here's a tip. DON'T SPEAK FOR OTHER PEOPLE OR PRESUME THEY DON'T KNOW WHY THEY ARE SUPPORTING SOMEONE.

AND I COULD GIVE A RAT'S A** ABOUT WHO YOU'RE VOTING FOR

Posted by: Anonymous | June 1, 2008 9:12 PM

Go Girl! Now Hillary can be Queen of Puerto Rico!

OBAMA 08!

Posted by: JimBo | June 1, 2008 9:10 PM

In Barack Obama's FIRST year in the US Senate, he introduced 152 bills.
++++++++++++++++

Obamabots continue to like fiction writing.
Posted by: | June 1, 2008 8:50 PM

CAN'T EVEN USE GOOGLE, FREAKTARD B/C
According to DailyKos it's 153.

From the DailyKos comes a list of the 113 bills Sen. Obama introduced in the 110th Congress. He introduced 153 in the 109th.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 1, 2008 9:07 PM

Obama does not connect well with Hispanics. I realized Hillary was going to be president #44 a year ago when I was talking to some Cuban girls who both told me how much they liked Hillary. I knew it was over then...

Posted by: Obamamania | June 1, 2008 9:06 PM

I speak to those who support Obama,and they
don't know why.I know why.
They don't care,as long as they are part of the throng.
Obama has lied and gotten away with a very weak history,he has never been a leader,
and he is an opportunist and probably a
egotistical sociopath.
I will never vote for a man who let his
own people freeze in the winter in his own
district,while writing letters in support of his slumlord friend,Antonio Rezko.Leaders don't sit for 20 years listening to racist pastors without standing up and saying "enough".
Obama '08 equals Jimmy Carter,and we all
know what happened there.That is,if he's elected,which he won't be.I'll vote for McCain,and I'm a lifelong Democrat.

Posted by: Greg | June 1, 2008 9:05 PM

To the poster, "not entitled" 6/1 8:35 PM

I agree that you are not entitled to post substantive comments that are worthy of noting. Where are your facts? The previous poster was posting opinion and it was clearly stated as such. Did you even think about what 'stats' you posted?

Did you even think about your claim of Senator Clinton would submit 20 bills in 6 years vs. Senator Obama 152 in his first year before you posted? You need to think about the data you collect before you can post a statement that actually adds value and persuades people to your argument. This would mean that Senator Obama would have had to campaign for president and submit these supposed bills every other day last year. Hmmm, I personally would be afraid of the bills and the 'bill to the American people' (i.e., cost) of these quickly submitted legislation to the American people. If Senator Clinton only submitted 20 bills wouldn't it have hit the press... they were all over Obama for not holding a single hearing for the committee he headed all year... and the 876 or so days since he has been in Iraq. Considering the level of scrutiny that Clinton gets, if she was a slacker on the Hill don't you think it would be in the press more... come on... be logical. and think about what you are promoting... instead about just speaking from your feelings and opinions. or if you do have an opinion state it as such instead of making things up. Obama has had plenty of bills for postages stamps for Black Americans, and other championships of Black causes that are technically counted as hits on Thomas. Does that me he contributed to legislation that touched lives... sure in a positive feel good way.

if you look at the congressional record... at
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery

Obama has 123 hits (Items 1 through 100 of 123) of bills sponsored, cosponsered, resolutions, etc. Not all of these are true legislation he authored some are ammendments. If you look at the dates for the bills submitted some of them are multiple in a day or short span of time.

Clinton has 173 or so hits. Again, I would not be concerned about the number of bills that someone enters, but really the quality of bills and policies that they champion that actually come to be realized.

Just my two cents.

Posted by: Interested voter | June 1, 2008 9:04 PM

It's funny how RealChoices wants Senator Clinton to loose with grace and not fight for the nomination. They must want a back door wimp for president who steals her delegates. The party is way off beat and they need to get back on track or lose a lot of their core voters. The only true fighter I've seen this campaign is Hillary Clinton. She has demonstrated both grace spirit and strength. She has stood her ground in the face of men calling her horrible names and getting away with it. She's had mountains made out of molehills while Senator Obama has been given a free ride all the way to the convention floor. While the love fest is about over and the real game is about to begin. It will not take a college grad to figure out who is ready to run this country by November. All the swing states and swing votes will be headed McCains way and all the ObamaMamas will be yelling foul at Hillary. I'm telling you right now it's your own fault.
All this guy has done is thrown a few phrases together. Shown up in the Senate and voted "present" so no one can figure out who he really is. I just don't understand how so many smart people can be so dumb. I know that many did not have the opportunity to know certain facts before they voted and I'm sure they would have been a difference in the outcome if the press had done their job. But the Republicans got what they wanted and as the new saying goes. Four of McCain is better than eight of Obama.

Posted by: Micky | June 1, 2008 8:59 PM

A black man is running for the highest office in the land and it scares us to death. However, behind our worst demons, in the tiniest part of our subconscious, behind all the walls of defense, we all know he is the one. We created him- all of us- just as we created Bush- evolution is to make mistakes, to learn, then to make more mistakes and to learn again. We have to recognize this and embrace what is already in the works.

Posted by: davie | June 1, 2008 8:59 PM

If i were McCain, i would be preparing my presidential speech now.

For what i gather from these posts, Hussain will be knocked out by more videos of him in the church while those "enlightened" preachers were spewing hate; and somebody is going to drag more mud from Bill's pants.

We are killing each other.

McCain is the winner, by two body bags.

Posted by: say good by to the presidency | June 1, 2008 8:58 PM

"Broad" and "deep" don't really seem like appropriate words to describe a margin of 140,000 votes. You could have that many people stuck in one traffic jam in L.A. How many towns are there in the U.S. with populations more than that? The number of Puerto Rican registered voters who just said screw it and stayed home is, let's see, just guessing here, maybe six times as large as the number who voted for Hillary -- and even that is not broad or deep. It's one little island.

You can lose sight of the forest for the trees sometimes, you know? Today's Gallup Poll has Obama up by ten percentage points among Democrats. That is kind of more what is going on here.

So -- see ya in a month or two ... yeah.

Posted by: pressF1 | June 1, 2008 8:54 PM

This guy Obama is not a uniter, he is the most divisive candidate (associated with fringe hate groups like Farakhan, Sharpton, Wright, etc...). He has no experience, and no accomplishments in Senate. He used Senate positon to sell books not make policy. He has enough skeletons already (Rezko, Canada deal, Illionois state mess etc...) in the short time he's been in politics, can you imagine what he will do if he is elected President. The guy failed as Senator so you want to promote him to President !!! I am not only quitting Democrat party, I do not plan on coming back ever.

Posted by: Liz763 | June 1, 2008 8:52 PM

We must come together and support the democratic nominee. All of you Americans who don't want to vote for Obama because he is black will have to answer to God.
It is sad, the racism that is still in this Country.

Posted by: Orion | June 1, 2008 8:52 PM

In Barack Obama's FIRST year in the US Senate, he introduced 152 bills.
++++++++++++++++

Obamabots continue to like fiction writing.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 1, 2008 8:50 PM

Obama supporters will continue Clinton bashing, even after her candidacy ends, because 1. some are misogynists and like to beat up on women. 2. many are adolescents who want to differentiate themselves from their mother's generation 3. some are reverse racists. or 4. it makes them feel important.

Posted by: skylark | June 1, 2008 8:49 PM

Yawn, wake me when the Clintons are gone.

Posted by: JD | June 1, 2008 8:46 PM

where the f is my comment. post it NOW. Understand, simp?

Posted by: Red | June 1, 2008 8:45 PM

Hillary Clinton has done it again, pulling the wool over the eyes of yet another not well informed, and perhaps, illiterate voters in Puerto Rico -promising them statehood, if she becomes the president!! The rather very naive and illiterate voters they have out there, believe her?

These folks in Puerto Rico did not know enough about constitutional requirements for statehood. If Washington D.C. has not been able to become a state, how do these ill and uninformed voters in Puerto Rico think Hillary Clinton would make their little Island, a state?

Posted by: Ignatius Anyanwu | June 1, 2008 8:45 PM

I cannot believe the comments that ask us to vote for McCain over Obama! That's just beyond the pale. I will vote for whomever the Democrats choose; those who would vote for McCain certainly don't care/ or are not informed about the issues! How sad. Let's vote the Democratic ticket and recognize that it is far better than a McBush.
Sincerely, a recovering Republican

Posted by: sam1 | June 1, 2008 8:45 PM

I cannot believe the comments that ask us to vote for McCain over Obama! That's just beyond the pale. I will vote for whomever the Democrats choose; those who would vote for McCain certainly don't care/ or are not informed about the issues! How sad. Let's vote the Democratic ticket and recognize that it is far better than a McBush.
Sincerely, a recovering Republican

Posted by: sam1 | June 1, 2008 8:43 PM

"Greg, Here's a tip. DON'T SPEAK FOR OTHER PEOPLE"


yeah, that's obambi's job,

Posted by: Anonymous | June 1, 2008 8:39 PM

"They are going to send the weakest candidate. (And, by the way, the one that has done nothing for the Democratic Party in his lifetime.)"

THE CANDIDATE WHO WINS THE NOMINATION IS NOT THE WEAKEST CANDIDATE--BY DEFINITION

THE LOSER IS THE LOSER--BY DEFINITION

And, Right, Hillary is clearly more experienced. Love all those specifics in those posts. Obama has more elective experience and here are the FACTS with regard to the Senate:

In her first SIX years in the US Senate (her first DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED POSITION as opposed to appointment or corporate job), Sen. Clinton introduced a grand total of 20 bills. Four of those bills were for naming various buildings after dead people, two of them were directly related to the attacks of 9/11/2001 and several others were things like congratulating sports teams.

In Barack Obama's FIRST year in the US Senate, he introduced 152 bills.

Just because you'd like to see her as more 'experienced' doesn't negate the fact that she's been sitting around doing nothing waiting for what she THOUGHT she was entitled to.

WELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE DISAGREED! NOT ENTITLED!!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 1, 2008 8:35 PM

What is the real reason voters don't want Obama to win the candidacy. For once, be honest and examine your conscience truthfully.

Posted by: alrac | June 1, 2008 8:33 PM

Who wants to be the SuperDels are going to ignore this anyway.

The Dems are going to throw away another Presidential Election!

They are going to send the weakest candidate. (And, by the way, the one that has done nothing for the Democratic Party in his lifetime.)

Those closed door meetings and back room deals (DNC Rules Committee, anyone?) are going to give arrogance reign over sense.

Here we go...

Posted by: Yael | June 1, 2008 8:32 PM

What is wrong with the Hillary die hards?WE ALL ARE DEMOCRATS!!! END OF STORY! IF HILLARY WON I WOULKD SUPPORT HER! IF BARACK WON I WOULD SUPPORT HIM THERE VIEWS ARE NOT SO DIFFERENT!!!!END OF STORY!!!
SO STOP SPWEWING THE SILLY NONsense that you would not SUPPORT BARACK ON LET THAT OLD FART (WE ALL HONOR HIS SERVICE) be the PRES AND BE BUSH'S THIRD TERMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Posted by: alfa | June 1, 2008 8:29 PM

This was of no shock considering that Hillary does well with individual who are less informed about the facts.Yeah I actually hear that many of them believe Obama is a gay Muslim.When you are favored by less informed individuals and have long time acquaintances supporting your opponent,that says that you are not qualified to be president. We don't want uninformed people picking our nominee and we don't want someone for president who is despised by the people closest to her.After all, they know her better than we can possibly imagine.Next time lets support a real Feminist and not someone who tries to skate by on her husbands name.There are many real Feminist who have made a name for themselves by themselves, who do not deserve to be disrespected, by letting Hillary represent them.

Posted by: shawntae sanders | June 1, 2008 8:25 PM

I CAN'T BELIEVE PEOPLE ARE SO BLIND THEY CANNOT SEE OBAMA IS FULL OF B S !HE HAS NO SUBSTANCE, HE NEEDS TO BE A PREACHER NOT A PRESIDENT. HE HAS MANAGED TO BRAINWASH PEOPLE TO THINK HE CAN DO "CHANGE" HA,IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN,THINGS HAVE TO PASS THRU CONGRESS. AND IF OSAMA OBAMA DOES GET THE NOMINATION INSTEAD OF HILLARY WHICH SHOULD GET IT,SHE HAS EVERYTHING GOING FOR HER EXCEPT THE BS OF OBAMA. I SAY CONGRATS PRESIDENT JOHN MCCAIN!

Posted by: elle | June 1, 2008 8:23 PM

Who cares it's not personal. If he picke her it will be because he should and no matter what we think as long as they get the white house who really cares in the long run.

+++++++++

I care if he winds up 'mysteriously' assassinated. Ever hear of Dealey Plaza--no thanks! NO TO HILLARY AS VP

Posted by: Anonymous | June 1, 2008 8:20 PM

BO should not even think of Clinton for VP, He needs to take Edward b/c that is his best choice of bringing the democrats together and winning the election come November.

Posted by: Peter | June 1, 2008 8:16 PM

"In Barack Obama's FIRST year in the US Senate, he introduced 152 bills." What?? Not only is this inaccurate, but since he has been the Chair of the Subcommitte on Afghanistan, he has not held one meeting. NOT ONE!! He believes Afghanistan is where our troops need to be, because it poses the largest threat to us. Would you not think he would have held a meeting in the last 15 months on the subject?? He sure can talk about it though. I have heard him talk about Afghanistan many, many times...yet, no action, as usual. Just words.

Posted by: Jeanne | June 1, 2008 8:11 PM

Who cares it's not personal. If he picke her it will be because he should and no matter what we think as long as they get the white house who really cares in the long run.

+++++++++
How will Obama supporters react when Obama selccts Hillary as his running mate? Welcome to the real world, kiddies.

Posted by: zephyr99 | June 1, 2008 7:49 PM

Ted Kennedy said it won't happen so it won't happen. If there was a 1% chance, he wouldn't have said that (and this was BEFORE the assassination comment). And Hillary knows it too. Doesn't stop Bill from pushing it but it will not happen.

Posted by: | June 1, 2008 7:53 PM

Posted by: voter | June 1, 2008 8:05 PM

There is 10% turnout of voters. And, by the way, who is interested in Puerto Rican votes, if they are not alowed to vote in general election? Who is interested in Michigan votes, if no other TRUSTWORTHY contenders were on the ballot? What is Hillary trying to show? Yes, Bill Clinton raped women. Yes, she used to rape the basic common sense, while in national spotlight. She has been doing it on permanent basis for sixteen plus years, she is doing it now also. What is she trying to show us? We know that she is not sane enough and/or trustworthy enough for any leadership, especially USA presidency. We-all know it already, we do not need any more proofs of it. Thanks, Hillary, we have gotten enough!

Posted by: aepelbaum | June 1, 2008 8:05 PM

obama always Hillary and let the dems be damned

Posted by: never | June 1, 2008 8:05 PM

Email just came from Hillary as she claims the nomination and then asks for more money. They must think we are nuts.

+++++++++++++
Dear xxxx,

Another big win! Today in Puerto Rico, the voters spoke with a powerful voice to say that this race is not over yet. And thanks to your support, we're celebrating another great victory.

When all the votes in Puerto Rico are counted, our popular vote lead will be even bigger. More than 17 million people have cast their ballots for our campaign, more votes than any candidate has received in the history of the Democratic Party. Now there can be no doubt: the people have spoken and you have chosen your candidate. We are winning the popular vote.

Every time the pundits count us out -- every time they declare the race over -- you, the voters, send a clear message that you have another idea. And you and I just keep winning races together.

Now there are just two contests left, the final primaries in South Dakota and Montana. I know I can rely on your support for these last two races, just as I have throughout the campaign.

Thank you so much for everything,


Hillary Rodham Clinton

Posted by: Voter | June 1, 2008 8:02 PM

How will Obama supporters react when Obama selccts Hillary as his running mate? Welcome to the real world, kiddies.

Posted by: zephyr99 | June 1, 2008 7:49 PM

Ted Kennedy said it won't happen so it won't happen. If there was a 1% chance, he wouldn't have said that (and this was BEFORE the assassination comment). And Hillary knows it too. Doesn't stop Bill from pushing it but it will not happen.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 1, 2008 7:53 PM

Bill Clinton used to rape women. Hillary Clinton used and continue to use to rape the basic common sense. Who is interested in poular votes from Puerto Rico, when they (all residents of Puerto Rico) are not allowed to vote in general election? Who could be interested in her popular votes from Florida and Michigan, when she cheated to get them,ignoring her own promise on the signed by her agreement, and people voted for her because they have no other candidates on the ballot?
What is this woman trying to show and/or to convince us in? That she is not sane enough and not trustworthy enough to be any leader, especially USA president? Oh, yes, we-all know it very well already.

Posted by: aepelbaum | June 1, 2008 7:52 PM

BO supporters will keep on spinning what they want to believe about Hillary, but the TRUTH is that she IS ahead in the popular vote. Meaning more voters prefer her to him as their choice for POTUS. There is no doubt about that, even though you might believe the popular vote does not count because the nomination goes to the candidate with the most delegates...true, but in the general election, against McCain, you are not counting the over 17 million voters who favor Hillary. I don't think BO has chance to beat McCain by pissing on Hillary supporters. I think you assume that all her supporters will just jump on the BO train...it won't happen, believe me, I am one and I can promise you I am not alone.

Posted by: Jeanne | June 1, 2008 7:50 PM

Hillary VP ???? No way. Obama would never pick her - she's a woman. "Sweetie" wouldn't go over with her.

She should continue to hold her head high rather than pair up with PC slime like Obama!!!

Here's to rejecting the party backroom bosses. Power to the voters !!!! Vote McCain.

Posted by: Keith | June 1, 2008 7:50 PM

How will Obama supporters react when Obama selccts Hillary as his running mate? Welcome to the real world, kiddies.

Posted by: zephyr99 | June 1, 2008 7:49 PM

hey political puck...Obama has won more than two primaries since Super Tuesday, how about VA, MD, DC, NC, MS, HI, WA, OR, WI, VT and a few caucuses to boot. Oh I forgot, those don't count because it ruins the Clinton plan. This is just more of the Clinton spin and if Obama was running a campaign like yours, the amount of trash on Clinton is huge. You want to talk Rezco fine....we can go with Peter Paul. What about Marc Rich and others? Plus the outrage that is Bosnia where she "misspoke" about Sniper fire while our brave troops are dodging real bullets she pretended just show she could act tough...HOW DISGUSTING!!!!! Does she want to go down in history as a cry baby. No one likes a sore loser and I will not vote for Hillary as President ever or as Vice President, she can't be trusted.

Posted by: hsg516 | June 1, 2008 7:45 PM

DISPATCHES FROM THE GROUND WAR ...

VANITY FAIR REPORTS ON 'THE COMEBACK ID' ...

Old friends and longtime aides are wringing their hands over Bill Clinton's post-White House escapades, from the dubious (and secretive) business associations to the media blowups that have bruised his wife's campaign, to the private-jetting around with a skirt-chasing, scandal-tinged posse. Some point to Clinton's medical traumas; others blame sheer selfishness, and the absence of anyone who can say "no." Exploring Clintonworld, the author asks if the former president will be consumed by his own worst self.
by Todd S. Purdum July 2008

Posted by: martin edwin andersen | June 1, 2008 7:44 PM

How can we be attacking Clinton when John McCain is in the picture?

Posted by: Asja | June 1, 2008 6:35 PM

Because FOOLISH Clinton supporters refuse to accept that OBAMA IS THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 1, 2008 7:39 PM

10% turnout? LOL. This is just more evidence of how absurd Clinton's position is. She should have conceded gracefully months ago... now she's disgracing herself and working on becoming a punchline to history.

Posted by: Phil | June 1, 2008 7:38 PM

"Clinton is the stronger candidate in the general election. Clinton should take this to the convention and win the nomination based on superdelegates decision to choose the stronger candidate.

Posted by: Sal | June 1, 2008 6:29 PM

THE LOSER OF A NOMINATION FIGHT IS NOT THE STRONGER CANDIDATE--BY DEFINITION.

AND THE SUPERDELEGATES HAVE GONE OBAMA'S WAY IN LANDSLIDE PROPORTIONS FOR MONTHS PROVING WHO THEY THINK IS THE 'STRONGER' CANDIDATE.

SHE IS TAKING NOTHING TO THE CONVENTION. SHE HAS LOST.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 1, 2008 7:37 PM

Obama is losing the popular vote. He has lost all the large, important states. He has lost almost all of the recent primaries. he is mired in scandal and looks like he's about done.

Why won't he just drop out for the good of the party? Losing 2/1 with a minority population? It's over.

Posted by: Red | June 1, 2008 7:33 PM

THIS JUST IN:
A Bimbo eruption detailed in "Vanity Fair".

vanityfair.com\politics

Posted by: tanaS | June 1, 2008 7:18 PM

Hillary supporters souuort her because they believe she's the best candidate to lead this country. Obama supporters support him because they want hope. The change thing too, but any new president will bring change. I can't help but wonder why they need to look to others for hope. The fact is "Hillary supporters" that would never vote for Obama won't be because thy're sore losers it will be because they do not believe Obama should be president no matter what he says -- it's too late.

Posted by: Diane | June 1, 2008 7:04 PM

Hillary supporters souuort her because they believe she's the best candidate to lead this country. Obama supporters support him because they want hope. The change thing too, but any new president will bring change. I can't help but wonder why they need to look to others for hope. The fact is "Hillary supporters" that would never vote for Obama won't be because thy're sore losers it will be because they do not believe Obama should be president no matter what he says -- it's too late.

Posted by: Diane | June 1, 2008 7:01 PM

Only the Democrats, who should have won in November by 49 states, could have TWO McGoverns on their hands. This party is beyond words.

Posted by: muskrat | June 1, 2008 6:54 PM

zephyr99, we don't have to worry. Obama won't select Hillary to be VP since she would insist on being co-president. Plus, there isn't any evidence he would be a strongest addition to the ticket. Given the small issue differences between Clinton and Obama, it is clear that plenty of these Clinton supporters who say they would vote for McCain over Obama aren't really Democrats, they are just part of "operation chaos".

Posted by: RealChoices | June 1, 2008 6:53 PM

Lucky Lakeshore,
I've analyzed situations for a long time by looking at what's in it for people and even though I'm uncomfortable with Hillary doing Healthcare, Obama will have to give it to her. Here's why:
-It's one of the reasons she says she decided to run for office so she won't lose face by accepting it.
-She has done more research and policy preparation on it than anyone else in high-profile public office today and she still hurts from her setback in 1993.
-She has to get it right or she will be humiliated forever so Obama is guaranteed to deliver one of his campaign promises through her.

Their interests are aligned on this and Hillary can endorse Obama on this basis and bring Edwards along in the unifying process.

Plus, I have some very, very, very far removed inside information.

Posted by: Asja | June 1, 2008 6:49 PM

Asja is right about Obama outmaneuvering Clinton strategically. His campaign has danced circles around hers from the start, and Hillary has responded by race baiting, flip-flopping (e.g., on Michigan's "primary"), and exhibiting breathtaking hypocrisy. I know that it's got to hurt to see an upstart slam your nose into the pavement, but the Clintons would have helped their cause by not being such sore losers. And I hope that she is not allowed to touch health care after Obama is elected: it was her stubbornness and lack of political savvy that robbed us of a chance at a more comprehensive system back in the '90s.

Posted by: Lucky Lakeshore | June 1, 2008 6:38 PM

Hillary lost the race when it mattered and is trying to make up when she can't catch up within the rules. This is not Obama's fault; it's Mark Penn's fault.

PR doesn't vote in November and they didn't know enough about him, so they went with the familiar brand. Once again, congratulations. Please, no more Clinton bashing; continuing it at this point hurts Obama and the Democratic party. How can we be attacking Clinton when John McCain is in the picture?


Posted by: Asja | June 1, 2008 6:35 PM

Puerto Rico is not a state. Who cares?

Posted by: jbc3 | June 1, 2008 6:33 PM

Another win for the Hill. Obama has won two primaries since Super Tuesday and Hillary has taken all the rest, often by embarassingly huge margins.

Obama is limping across the finish line. Check that, crawling across it.

I'm finished with the Democrats if Hillary is not at the top of the ticket.

Posted by: PoliticalPuck | June 1, 2008 6:30 PM

Well this is highly indicative that Clinton gets the Hispanic vote which is much bigger in population than the black vote. Clinton is the stronger candidate in the general election.

Clinton should take this to the convention and win the nomination based on superdelegates decision to choose the stronger candidate.

Posted by: Sal | June 1, 2008 6:29 PM

BFD. The turnout was barely 10%, these folks don't vote in the general election. It is meaningless. Shillary will of course claim this means people want her to go on but the result is clear. She has a choice, but the options don't involve her becoming President. She can loose with grace, or lose ugly and try to take Obama and the party down with her.

Posted by: RealChoices | June 1, 2008 6:24 PM

Warm Congratulations to Hillary on her victory. Her husband's FALN gamble paid off big today. I don't mean that in any way negatively; he took a lot of heat for those pardons and Puerto Ricans remembered today.

However, Obama once again outmaneuvered her strategically. By keeping his campaign at a decidedly lower profile than she did, he kept expectations low on the importance of the primary and the result was a much lower turnout than expected. Sure, he suffered by giving up a margin of loss bigger than he would have sustained if he fought hard but the ultimate result is that Hillary's highly dubious popular vote argument wasn't helped by the low turnout in PR. In fact, if turnout was less than 350K, it was snuffed out.

Whoever is doing the strategy for Obama is really smart. Any massive dollars Obama spent in Puerto Rico would only have fueled turnout and that was the last thing he needed. Hillary didn't have the money to fuel turnout on her own.

I predict Obama will give the full Healthcare mantle to Hillary and ask her to choose how she wants to lead it; in the Senate or in his Cabinet. She will choose to lead it in the Senate and will be immortalized in US history by delivering ground-breaking healthcare reform legislation. The legislation will bear her name and she will take full credit for it. Knowing that she failed the first time, and failed to win the nomination despite strong starting advantages in both prior endeavors, she'll be far more careful this time to protect her legacy with something substantial that receives broad support.

PR doesn't vote in November and fully one third of the electorate there said they couldn't make a decision on Obama because they didn't know enough about him, so they went with the brand they know.

Once again, congratulations.

Posted by: Asja | June 1, 2008 6:16 PM

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