The Trail: A Daily Diary of Campaign 2008

For someone to say they are going to vote for Mccain as opposed to Obama they would have to be either extremely uneducated or would have to perhaps be extremely financially and socially conservative. As we all should know, the next president will have the oppurtunity to appoint several federal reserve governors and likely replace a couple of the more liberal supreme court justices. Now It certainly seems plausible to me that some older white people in this country are democrats for traditional reasons but are really financial conservatives and wouldn't mind a good excuse to vote that way- Not sure why they aren't worried about their granddaughters ability to be able to get a legal abortion however.

I will vote for McCain in November to teach these arrogant super delegates a lesson. Clinton is obviously the people's choice because she has the most votes.

McCain kills puppies for fun, is a Muslim, and has a wide stance!

the security of the country is more important than following party line.
Obama is a muslim spy 20 years in the making. i will never vote for him

well, the voters will have 2 choices, obama or McCain. Is Obama a more qualified leader than George Bush? Point to an accomplishment, a piece of legislation, something. Of ya, "if he had been in congress" he would not have voted to go to war. Well, after the fact "W" probably wouldn't have either. So do you vote for another trainee? don't vote at all? or McCain?

That'll teach those sexist bastards
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If I can't have a female for president, I will vote for Dick Cheney!

"I was going to vote Hillary but now I'm voting McCain." Might as well say, "I was always going to vote for McCain even if Hillary won the nomination." Same freaking difference. No one can prove what you were going to do or not do. Your only aim is to hope to hurt someone who feels differently by spreading useless comments about what you would have done IF...who cares? Go masturbate in private. No one needs to see that.

at the end of the day we will have another republican president. instead of positioning the party for the GE they just pushed pbama to the front line ignoring the populat vote for hillary.
with mccain i will pay less taxes

HRC has the popular vote. the people want clinton as president. it is a shame that the party pushed obama down our throat. I am so diappointed with the democratic party - i am done with it. no more money from me.
i am joining the democrats for mccain!!!

Vote McCain Hillary People! Clintons and Bushes are the same as McCain anyway. Bush brought you endless war and 4 dollar gas. McCain will keep the trend going. Great choice! Keep your head down and run to your vehicles (giggle giggle). How come Billary are now whining about the "fun part"?

obama has no experience. he was only few weeks in the senate and we really don't know anything about him.
I DON'T TRUST HIM !!!!
If HRC is not the presidential candidate I will vote republican. Mccain at least likes this country.
go hillary run as independent you will win

i am educated upper middle class and i support HRC. now that she is out i will vote rebublican. obama is just not ready to be president and i cannot support him. maybe in a few year after having some history in the senate. HRC as VP is not enough for me.

You know, I've just about had it with "the rules." Even Nazi SS Guards had "rules." But some rules are just plain stupid. When a major political party was robbed of an election as ours was in 2000, because the votes were not counted, the same party should never, never, never have painted itself into a corner to not count votes. The battle cry should have been "Never again! Count all the votes." This year, we have the most amazingly stupid collection of convoluted rules ever written. And the result is a large portion of the party's members are angry. As far as I'm concerned, one person = one vote is a basis of democracy, as is the secret ballot. This nominating process has been a sham. Vote against the Democratic Party in November. I am a lifelong Democrat, a Bobby Kennedy Democrat, a Hillary Clinton Democrat, and, it looks like I'll be a John McCain Voter in November. I have no intention of staying home. I will vote. But not for the DNC, their "rules," their sexism, and their collaboration with the mass media to trash a highly qualified candidate. I may be one person. But I see what happened. And I will not participate in the Democratic Party again.

C'MON GIRLS! FORGET THE DNC! WE'LL TAKE OUR FIGHT ALL THE WAY TO DENVER! IF HILLARY IS NOT THE NOMINEE WE'LL VOTE FOR MCCAIN! WHO CARES IF HE DON'T KNOW HIS SHIITE FROM A HOLE IN THE GROUND! Oh, wait...I'm a guy for Obama...NEVERMIND!

my own little special club. Not too many in it, just a few good guys and special friends: Walter Mondale, John Kerry, to name a couple.

Posted by: Michael Dukakis | June 3, 2008 2:20 PM

Well, if you feel like SLUMMING IT you can always join Hillary's club. With Howard Dean and Dennis Kucinich.

Until then, Nov. Is a long way off so the rest is just WISHFUL thinking.

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To the INTELLIGENT, RATIONAL, HONORABLE HILLARY SUPPORTERS **

Do you really want these MESSAGES to be HRC's LEGACY -

1. RULES are for suckers - agreeing to them and then changing them mid-game is the NEW WAY.

2. If you cannot win on merit, whine, backstab, spread rumors / untruths until victory is yours.

3. Threaten to scuttle the ship if you are not made captain. That shows your deep love for the ship.

Imagine how these precepts (and I could go on) will affect our lives, our society and economy.

SO PLEASE think about it and DO THE RIGHT THING. I started out with a lot of admiration for Bill and Hillary - but gradually I have had to see (and weigh) the pluses and minuses.

Life will go on ... there won't be any miraculous improvements - no matter who is the (non-Con) candidate! Once we jettison our ethics, civility, rational cooperative problem-solving, focus on real issues - this country is toast - no matter who is the leader.

Let us UNITE behind a candidate before it is too late!

** There will always be a "passionate" few who are unable to separate emotional attachment from rational thinking - but I hope that most of you are indeed honorable, fair minded folks!

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BTW, About Bill's supposed outburst -

Calling a spade a spade ... or in this case ... a sleazeball a sleazeball is IMHO a courageous act that is too rare these days.

Making unsubstantiated allegations and spreading rumors are detestable practices that the "respectable" media now share with the tabloid media.

BTW, I still have some regard for Bill even though I think Hillary needs to graciously concede and support Barack's campaign from now on.

Adding that to show that one can recognize abhorrent practices even when they are practiced on someone you are not supporting.

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GL USA.

Posted by: Aeldas | June 3, 2008 3:07 PM

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Thanks!

Attention Insane asylum escapees,

Hillary is going to win.....blah blah blah.....

....blah blah...OR ELSE!

Attention Obamabots,

Hillary is going to win. Because she is a shark. And Hussein is a trout. And you, yes you, Obamabots, are the piranhas circling around the trout, nipping at the collective of jellyfish known as the media.

By the way, Howard Dean is a blowfish, if anyone was wondering.

I think we should have George Bush be are president again. That would be the best for our country. hahah

Hillary is like the psuedo popular girl in high school that did'nt get asked to the prom but went anyway and danced by herself in a home spun pant suit prom dress while here family watched in attendance. As then she now looks just as pathetic and everyone wishes that she would just go home(and take that goofy family with her). Hillary-the prom, the parade and the nomination has passed you by and its embarrassing to watch you make a fool of yourself over and over again. Okay, you're not a loser but you lost! Go away!

Saying that he listened to hate for 20 years is silly. How do you know this and if so how has HIS actions reflected this. It was HRC that introduced race, hints that he is muslim, assasination and such. She went to far................
There is a difference between a church sermon and a speech.

Why is that being silly? Why is it now that Obama is distant himself from his own church? What is he so afraid that he has to distant himself?

I would like to thank all the Obama supporters, for making it easier for McCain to be elected. THANKS

Saying that he listened to hate for 20 years is silly. How do you know this and if so how has HIS actions reflected this. It was HRC that introduced race, hints that he is muslim, assasination and such. She went to far................
There is a difference between a church sermon and a speech.

HRC is just not presidential timber. To inherit the brand name and have the backing of Bill, and not win, shows that she does not have what it takes to become Prez, and never will. The "sniper" was her "swift boat", and "RFK" was her coffin. Caio Clintons!

Obama is just like the Apple fan cult. How can you ignore something as critical as those hate comment coming from the Obama camp. How can you support someone who has been listening to HATE being preached for the past 20 yrs. Obviously, these informations are falling on deaf ears. And yet, voters are hoping for a better next 4 yrs. There is NO unity, there is NO love, and there is NO peace when you have HATE on your side. 20 yrs of listening to HATE..I can only imagine what America will be like. GL USA.

I think this attitude by women that feel that Barack Obama stole something that was Hillary's is sad and short sighted. She started off with every atvatange and blew it big time. He ran a superior campain plan and simple. If you want to vote for McCain thats your right, but dont come crying when they overturn Roe V Wade! 1 more concervative justice and it is possible.

From day one Clinton was.......OUT.

I am a feminist, and there is no way I will support Obama. I would rather see the feminist movement die than see Obama become president. I was really hurt that Clinton did not get the nomination. Now McCain gets my vote. The feminist movement can go into exile for the next 8 years for all I care. I hope McCain turns back the strides in equal rights for women--as he has promised to do--for all I care. My bruised feelings are of primary importance to me.

Blah blah blah Reverend Wright Blah Blah Racism Blah Blah
I am a racist old guy with a poor education and even less net worth.
I am thus pretty low on the socio-economic totem pole and easily threatened.
I mean everyone knows African Americans are racist.
That's why we made them slaves. Clearly they started it.
I never took psychology and have no idea what transference is,
I'm just going to say: I'm not a racist, but Obama is and hope it sticks.
Blah blah blah Muslim Blah Blah Blah Hussein Blah Blah Blah

I am voting for McCain as well. Anyone who calls him "McBush" hasn't been listening to the man.

McCain. He will make a great President.

Buh-bye Hildebeast!

Buh-bye BubbaZipper!

Thank gawd the country is spared another Billary infestation of the White House.

I am a life long Republican.

After seeing the way Hillary was treated by the Democrats this year, I've decided they are the better party!

Obama in 08!

Really? I can NOT understand why anyone would vote republican just because their favorite democrat didn't win the nomination. It makes no sense to me. Why? So you can say, "I told you so" if McCain wins and continues to take the US down the dark path we are already on? Hasn't GWB done enough damage? Talk about cutting your nose of to spite your face.

I just voted for Hillary Clinton 4 million times, which puts HER ahead in the popular vote! So go ahead and count UNDEMOCRATIC CAUCUS VOTES. Hillary is EVEN THEN NOW ahead.

What? My votes don't count because I broke the rules?

And HOLD ON! Popular vote can't decide the nominee just because I say so?

WTF! I'm With McCain.

What? RNC has the SAME RULES?

DAMN! This conspiracy stuff runs deep!

Sal, perhaps the news of election returns from states such as North Carolina and Oregon were not available to you. Also, you might not have heard that Puerto Ricans cannot vote in the general election. I'm sure there are other problems with the details and the reasoning in your posts, but I'm going to stop now to make sure I don't overwhelm you.

Good try, Sal, just start researching a bit and try to stop ignoring the data that doesn't support your opinion.

As for the "popular vote", sorry, but you can't debate cold, hard, math.

Posted by: | June 3, 2008 12:56 PM

Then why are the Caucus states EXCLUDED?
B/c Hillary isn't winning the popular vote that way.
Hmmm..Try MANIPULATED MATH but you try to debate but is easily countered...BY THE TRUTH

I look forward to Obama joining my own little special club. Not too many in it, just a few good guys and special friends: Walter Mondale, John Kerry, to name a couple.

I voted for Hillary, but honestly, every time she speaks now, I cringe. If my primary was in the last month, I would not have a problem voting for Obama. When I did vote, I made up my mind in the voting booth. I almost had to flip a coin, it was so close. But now, after all the "I am ahead in the popular vote" crap, when Obama's name was not on the ballot, (Because he followed the directions of the DNC, when Hillary did NOT) the racist comments, and the desperate measures, I am fully behind Obama. I hope he can lead us out of the last 8 years worth of mess that the Bush Administration has gotten us into.

I am a feminist, and there is no way I will support Obama. I would rather see the feminist movement die than see Obama become president. I was really hurt that Clinton did not get the nomination. Now McCain gets my vote. The feminist movement can go into exile for the next 8 years for all I care. I hope McCain turns back the strides in equal rights for women--as he has promised to do--for all I care. My bruised feelings are of primary importance to me.

Never in my life have I wanted to cast a vote more than I do in November: for John McCain. I am a lifelong Democrat and this will be a first for me.

Aussie, hear hear. You have got it right, mate. Sometimes it takes an outsider for the clearest vision. Keep on posting. Ignore the idealogues, they have an uncanny talent for typing without thinking.

I regard many of these posts as personal attacks. Why are such postings being allowed on this site?

What do you bet WAPO Deletes my post and
thus violates my Constitutional Right of
Freedom of Speech,Free Press,and Free
Expression,just as soon as they read that
this phony AP Story by AP Wire Service
about Hillary Clinton Conceding to Loser
Barack Husseing Obama was in fact planted
by the Barack Obama camp if not by Messiah
Barack Hussein Obama himself,or Obama had
Democrat Party Bosses Howard Dean,or Mad
Madame Nancy Pelosi plant it now then.

aussie2020 and sal are idiots. whining about not getting your way won't change things. she didn't win the popular vote. don't the caucus voters count too? obama took his name off the ballot in michigan because he was told too. so was hillary but she refused. the DNC didn't have to make any concessions but they did as fair a job as they could. i guess nothing less than total annihilation of obama will suffice for you. the hillary cultists better get over themselves and reverse that selfish attitude. i know people like you are so enthralled and obsessed with hillary that you'll spew anything to get her the nomination. if you want mccain the raving madman as president so he can continue the downward spiral started by the bush crime family then that is your choice but consider your actions. can you live with yourselves or does hillary mean that much to you?

For all you voters that will vote for McCain because you are angry about how the election has turned out and feel that Obama has been disrespectful to Hillary.

"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?, because Janet Reno is her father."
John McCain

Hillary, PLEASE END this non-sense. You lost! Give others a chance. How can I vote for you if you can't even count right. You aren't leading in the popular votes.

I respect and admire Hillary's service to the country BUT, I also can not think of an end more fitting to her presidential bid than the half-leaked, half-contradictory signs that she will be conceding tonight.

This whole campagin she has failed to put together a simple straight forward coherent campagin. And that is why she lost.

... I will line up behind the Democratic nominee, Go Dems 08!

I believe everything Clinton says. And everything McCainBushCheneySatan says too.

Why not? Just because they don't believe themselves?

Keep on going Hillary! We're all behind you (please ignore the "Kick Me" signs we are all taping to your back!).

It really no longer matters if she does concede tonight or not.

Its been over for a while, it will still be over if she waits.

Hillary is an extremely slow learner.

Hey Aussie2020
Give it a rest you ranting lunatic. Your comments are too long to read and stupid in content.

After watching the mockery of fairness in the Democratic party at the hands of Sen Clinton and her supporters. I wonder if the unabashed truth would register with them. It sort of reminds me of the wicked witch of the west accompanied by flying monkeys. Pathethic is it not?

MacCain 08

The press underestimates how much the public hates Obama and no amount of media pressure can change that. There would be no Democratic support for Obama since he stole the nomination by cutting out two states. The public has spoken and the public wants Hillary for President. Clinton is staying in to win.

Posted by: Sal | June 3, 2008 12:41 PM

The public does not hate Obama. They hate what he stands for. Just like many Russians hated what Lenin and Stalin stood for and many Germans hated what Hitler and the NAZI party stood for.

Those Democrats of morality, honor and ethics need to MAKE a STAND against the DNC Insiders who are trying to HighJack Democracy and who have awarded delegates to a candidate who along with John Edwards took his name off the ballot in Michigan. This is the LARGEST and GROSSEST Miscarriage of Democracy in the short History of your Country. There is no precedent for it. We must Stand up to the FACISTS Who think they can allocate uncommmited ballots all for one candidate and even more. This is a GROSS CRIME. Do not let Carl Levin, John Edwards, Howard Dean and Obama violate the voters and will of the American people. The uncommitted voters should be uncommitted delegates. Since when does UNCOMMITTED mean Obama. Look up the world uncommitted in the Oxford Dictionary which people use in the UK, Continental Europe, Canada, Mexico, Australia, South Africa, New Zealand, Japan, ... And we all know. Only in the USA DNC Dictionary does UNCOMMITTED mean Obama. Sad distortion of the English language. It is a disrepect to call what we speak in the USA English. We need to call it American, since it has almost no relation to Oxford English when such a simple word like UNCOMMITTED can be so distorted by Howard Dean, Carl Levin, John Edwards, Obama and the DNC Insiders. They would have all flunked their A levels in the UK, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and Canada and never made it to the Univeristy. If they had not, the USA (and the Democratic Party) Would not face the Problems it now faces. It shows you what can go wrong by giving an education and a title to uneducated, amoral and unethical people like Carl Levin, John Edwards, Howard Dean, Obama and the DNC Insiders which supported defining the Oxford English word UNCOMMITTED to mean Obama.

She is NOT ahead in the popular vote:

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/06/the_people_have_spoken.html?hpid=topnews

But I don't think she'll have the character or honesty to admit that in her speech tonight - sadly.

Oh how bizarre...

Does the AP still believe that there are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, and that American astronauts really set foot on the moon, there is a tooth fairy, that Iraqi soldiers actually took Kuwaiti babies from incubators, that Obama can win the election, that there will be no retrubution for allocating delegates to Obama in Michigan when Obama, John Edwards, Carl Levin and Howard Dean colluded to screw Hillary and Democracy supporters in Michigan, ...
When will the American AP learn to check the facts. They are an embarrassment to every American citizen living and working overseas. But it starts are out so-called top journalism schools and business schools. The top business school graduates brought us Enron business and accounting practices, insiders trading, the sub prime mortage crisis, the student loan crisis, ... and the top journalism schools gives us journalists who have supposedly confirmed weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Iraqi soldiers taking Kuwaiti babies from incubators, Obama leading the popular vote, ... All lies, propaganda, misinformation, ... The Press in the USA has stooped to the lowests levels in the history of the USA. But it is not an oppressive government which has seized control, but private and business interests who not only distort the news, present half truths which are taken out of context and are actually lies and fabrications, like the case in Texas with the children. Now after two months ... If the Press was on the case from Day one, the children would have been returned a long time ago. We need a new generation of business leaders, university professors, journalists and politicans who are American first and who will not fill their pocket books with special interest and lobbist dollars. It is also that way with many university academics and scientists and researchers working for major pharmaceutical companies and even many at the FDA, NSF and NIH. Time to train and educate our children in ethics, respect, and responsibility, character traits which are sorely missing in Washington, among AP journalists, university professors, priests, pastors, ministers, mullahs, ... American really needs to do some soul searching and it can start with the DNC Insiders, Obama, Howard Dean, Carl Levin and John Edwards reexamining the Crimes Against Democracy and the USA by awarding any delegates to Obama in Michigan when Obama and John Edwards took their names off the ballot. How is that for ethics? Take your name off the ballot to stand up for principles, and then demand more delegates than the number of votes who voted uncommitted (many of the uncommitted, were just that, uncommitted, they WERE NOT for Obama, they were uncommitted). But then Obama, John Edwards, Howard Dean and Carl Levin have a very limited command of Oxford English. They have their own DNC Insiders' English dictionary, where Uncommitted means Obama.
They are a total joke and have not only made the DNC the laughing stock in all Democracies of the world, but also make America look like the bloody idiots we are. To let a small group of DNC Insiders highjack the Democratic Party, with the help of special interests, the AP jounalists is exactly what the German people allowed the Hitler Insiders and the German Press to do in Germany, which allowed Hitler to come to power. DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN in the USA. Make sure all of the votes are counted and the delegates ARE ALLOCATED ONLY TO CANDIDATES Who got votes. An an UNCOMMITTED vote is NOT a vote for Obama. Only Howard Dean, Obama, Carl Levin, John Edwards and the DNC Insiders would allow such a miscarriage of democracy to occur under their watch. The will do anything to win, just like Hitler and his Insiders in Germany. If they will pull this stunt just to steal the nomination from Hillary, what do you think they will stoop to if they get elected. God Forbid that we ever find that out.
Democrats for McCain, to prevent that scenario from ever occurring.

The press underestimates how much the public hates Obama and no amount of media pressure can change that. There would be no Democratic support for Obama since he stole the nomination by cutting out two states. The public has spoken and the public wants Hillary for President. Clinton is staying in to win.

Posted by: Sal | June 3, 2008 12:41 PM

Um, no. The states in question have only their own election officials to blame. They broke DNC rules, therefore the results from those states were rendered invalid. It's that simple.

As for the "popular vote", sorry, but you can't debate cold, hard, math.

How fitting that Hillary has found the most appropriate way to spend the final day of the Democratic primary season - refuting an internal leak, sending mixed messages, and putting her undisciplined staff and poor management skills on display.

Her campaign has been a mess...I don't know why anyone expected the final day to be any different.

Oh and Clinton is expected to win SD and at least tie in Montana. Superdelegates are noticing that Obama has lost every race since the Rev. Wright debacle. Clinton won Puerto Rico and has the Hispanic vote. Hispanic are unlikely to vote for Obama, they will choose McCain and that's 30% of the vote right there.

Her last name is Clinton. She will deny anything and everything!

I smoked, but I didn't inhale!
I did not have sexual relations, with that, woman!

Birds of a feather flock together!

True!

The press keeps making up stories trying to force Clinton to concede. Yet the polls show she is winning, she has the popular vote and won the swing states. Why would Clinton concede when she is the winner?

The press underestimates how much the public hates Obama and no amount of media pressure can change that. There would be no Democratic support for Obama since he stole the nomination by cutting out two states. The public has spoken and the public wants Hillary for President. Clinton is staying in to win.

For the sake of UNITY in our party, Hillary,
PLEASE let this be over tonight.

This is all spin to let the campaign off the hook and vehemently deny the AP story about concession tonight. Where there's smoke, there's got to be fire. So a Hillary withdrawal is coming. Just maybe not tonight. One more tweak of Obama before it's all over...

http://www.political-buzz.com/

That depends on how you define "Concede"...

Of course Hillary denies it! Hillary will parse words such that her speech tonight will sound like a concession but the trigger words like "concede" and "end" will not be in the speech. Hillary will probably acknowledge Obama may reach the delegate number threshold, but that she has the total popular vote (i.e. more spin and creative math)!

Hillary needs funds to pay off her campaign debts (including personal loans). She has got to be somewhere between $21 to $25 million in debt.

Is it me or does Chelsea have some serious junk in the trunk?

BREAKING NEWS:

A copy of Clinton's script for tonight was uncovered early this morning:

Hillary Clinton

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"FAIL!"

Everyday she continues this crusade, more and more people dislike her.

I hope she keeps it going until Aug.....2016!!!!!!!

Bye Bye, Mrs Slow Learner, Quick Liar!