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A Better Battery?

By Michael D. Shear
WANTED: A better electric car battery.
REWARD: $300 million.
OFFERED BY: Sen. John McCain.

The Republican nominee for president will propose on Monday a $300
million prize, paid by the government, to the inventor of a better car
battery, with the goal of spurring innovation to get American's off
their gasoline habit.

In a speech in Fresno, California, McCain will propose the reward
-- which equates to about $1 for every person in America -- along with
tougher mileage standards for automakers and large tax credits for the purchasers of
alternative fuel, hybrid or electric cars.

"Instead of playing favorites, our government should level the
playing field for all alcohol fuels that break the monopoly of
gasoline, lowering both gasoline prices and carbon emissions," he
says, according to prepared remarks. "In the quest for alternatives to oil, our government has thrown around enough money subsidizing special interests and excusing
failure. From now on, we will encourage heroic efforts in
engineering, and we will reward the greatest success."

The $300 million prize would be given for "the development of a
battery package that has the size, capacity, cost and power to
leapfrog the commercially available plug-in hybrids or electric cars,"
he says in the speech.

McCain has spent the last week focused almost exclusively on
energy, reacting in large part to the spike in gasoline prices and the
weakening economy. In Houston last week, he proposed lifting the
federal ban on oil drilling along the country's coasts.

By Washington Post Editor  |  June 23, 2008; 8:34 AM ET
 
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Ahem...

1st Point: Oil drilling is only temporary until we switch to better technologies; but even the announcement of drilling will cut $4/gal to $2 overnight because of future speculators. So yes...drill, drill, drill!

2nd Point: As some well-informed people have already pointed out, the batt tech is already here. And price will not be a problem, since major mass-production always lowers it. The only problem would be the transition from ICEs. This could prove difficult...most money made by your State Government and Big Oil comes from gasoline.

Posted by: Mark | July 6, 2008 2:45 AM | Report abuse

I think someone needs to remind McCain that the battery is already done, and many companies have already been working on making batteries last even longer. He just wants to get credit on something that's already been invented. And there are electric cars that can run 200 miles per charge, what's wrong with that? I know many are looking for a better way to make it run longer. Not because McCain said.

Posted by: Tom | June 30, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Apparently you bunch of ignorant lefties haven't heard of the X-prize, (a meer 20 million) and how it resulted in the first spacecraft by a private company capable of taking three people into space (look up SpaceShipOne Knuckle-heads). Of course this will work. Many of the great firsts in technology were spurred by prizes like this and fortunately it allows clever individuals to compete with big industry. Heck I think I may go for it my self! The day of the lone inventor or a small team of cutting edge experts is now and they could score big on this one. BTW I am a Chemist and I drive a Honda Insight. I get about 60 mpg and sometimes 70 mpg on the open road. Cheers

Posted by: Steve Scientist | June 27, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Ok I know people either have short memories or maybe dont watch movies that some might think would be boring.

Please watch the movie

Who Killed The Electric Car

Washington Post people please read this. The beter battery was already made.

I repeat already made. Its inventor is in the movie. A real person that made this incredible battery for electric cars. Watch the movie and you will see. You have see pretty much the whole thing. Its near the end where they have the part about this ederly gentleman and his small company that made this better battery.

So I guess people forgot there was one or did not see the movie. All this debate over someone making one when it has already been done. If John McCain wants to award this man with 300 million that would be wonderful. Hopefully someone might make some affordable electric cars for working people.

We working poor who need help because of 5 dollar and rising gas prices need a cheap car that will run on electric. I dont think many people would care if the frills were not there. Just make it like the early beetles were no frills but runs on electric you can power overnight at home.

As far as power for them there is enough Coal in the Unitied States to power this county for 200 years or more.

They can build clean burning coal fire plants now. Its a fact. I am not a Republican or Democrat or Independent. Iam not a label. I think we have lots of resources here in America.


Anyway watch the movie

Who Killed The Electric Car.

Posted by: Its Here | June 25, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

I have a sincere question to ask our American families. Watched a documentary about how Americans have been illegally taxed. Is it true, is the sixteenth amendment illegal. If so, why are you not talking about it? Now would be a good time. From Canada.

Posted by: justada55+ | June 24, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Your all nuts. Just look back in history. You did land on the moon did you not?? Hell of a lot of technology to fit in that little capsule?? Give us normal uneducated people a break. It's been done, but would ruin the economy. Our brilliant politicians new this decades ago, bur got rich and now we are screwed.

Posted by: justadad55+ | June 24, 2008 12:06 AM | Report abuse

Right wing acolytes bluster and foam about even the suggestion of subsidizing R&D for alternate energies; how will they view McCain's $300 million (taxpayer funded) battery lotto?

Posted by: Piter | June 23, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

There is already something like this in the works that was announced in March and is supported by a range of politicians and businesses... check out www.progressiveautoxprize.org and maybe someday McCain's campaign can promote something that really is new and innovative!!

Posted by: MM | June 23, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

First we had the C-average president.

Now we have the last-in-his-class candidate. Well not the very last one, but 894th in a class of 899 people-- the bottom of the barrel!

We've had enough of morons running this country.

Posted by: Not Another Moron in Chief | June 23, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Wait, how is this %@#%@#% not pork barrel?

This is proof that McSame has no clue about science. Just like when he decries the use of federal funds for a DNA-based counting of bears-- the moron doesn't understand science and now he thinks he's Alfred Nobel.

The days of the "lone inventor" are long gone. What's the last thing one of those guys gave us-- the Segway?

Today's great inventions are in the hands of universities and the R&D departments of large corporations. People work in problems through interconnected research carried out by large teams. This doesn't happen by offering some "prize", just like you can't catch Osama by putting a price on his head, you dumb cowboy.

EXPEDITE VISAS FOR GRADUATE STUDENTS AND INVEST IN EDUCATION, YOU FOUL GIMMICKY ANTI-SCIENCE MORON.

Posted by: Gimmicky %@#@#$ | June 23, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: eac | June 23, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

If we had only listened to Jimmy Carter 30 years ago, we would have been energy self sufficient 8 years ago.

But no, you Repukes thought you could do it better. Ronnie Poopy Pants ripped the solar panels off the White House.

This energy crisis is all REPUKES' fault.

Posted by: Tom3 | June 23, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Admiral McCain..."Who am I? What am I doing here?"

The straitjacket express has derailed.

Posted by: Tom3 | June 23, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

The Germans and the US also had water injected engines in WW2. It really works, by lowering the temperature to prevent engine knock.

As for Bush's space program, he IS sending a man to another planet. Astronaut Jeffy Lube Gannon has volunteered to go to Uranus

Posted by: Tom3 | June 23, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Here at Lugnut International, we're working hard to meet John McCain's goal. In addition, we're in discussions with BBW International to make and market nationally traditional modes of transport. Also, our subsidiary, Lugnut International Finance AG, has become a market-maker in oat and hay futures.

Posted by: Larry R. Lugnut III | June 23, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

That battery was invented ten years ago for the EV-1 electric sports car.

The car in "Who Killed the Electric Car"

General Motors bought the rights to the batteries and SUPPRESSED the technology.

Someday we will find out Big Oil, the Big Three and other Bigs have suppressed a LOT of technology...enough to fix our current energy, global warming, and food problems.

Posted by: Tom3 | June 23, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

McSame should know something about battery power- his Stepford wife appears to be a robot powered by batteries, and by the way, isn't she worth $300 million of beer money too?

Posted by: McSame is a joke | June 23, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

No prize necessary. $130 oil makes developing a sorts of alt energy technolgoies economically feasible. Five years of market forces will have 100 TIMES more effect than 30 plus years of wasteful government R&D and incentives. Many of the programs started in the 70s and have done nothing -- because there was simply no real market for them.

To all you DRILL, DRILL DRILL MORONS: it will neve keep pace with DEMAND, DEMAND, DEMAND, from BILLIONS and BILLIONS of new consumers in CHINA AND INDIA. Get a clue.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 23, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

While I'm still not voting for him, I actually think McCain's idea is a really good one. Perhaps, just perhaps, he might turn out to be a decent president, if elected.

Posted by: vegasgirl | June 23, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

politicians can't invent batteries, with or without using government money as incentive.

we liberals were using irony in noting that such a stupid waste of taxpayer dollars by government to influence the private sector came from a supposed conservative republican. According to Rush, et al., only liberals think government should take your money to meddle in the private sector.

and by the way, welfare was ended under Clinton, and the current health care proposal from Obama isn't a federally funded program, so get at least some facts straight before you repeat old canards.

the 300 mil won't get us anything except a 300 mil waste of money to whoever would have invented it just as fast without the silly prize.

how do you ask the average taxpayer to pony up $ to give to General Electric or some other huge company already committed to the project without the incentive?

Posted by: JoeT | June 23, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Truly absurd. Hey, who cares, it's not his money. If that wasn't enough he wouldn't stand a chance of getting it through a congressional hearing without more pork.

I can commit one billion for the discovery of electomagnetic levitation devices. Come one, come all. Gosh, does that sound a litle like a circus guy? It is.

Where was he when he had the chance to look far into the future, some 30 years ago, and propose research projects for new forms of energy? Or did he realize that he would likely call them "pork"?

I think I'm getting tired of him calling everyone else names. He flew planes. He didn't fight on the ground. He thinks he knows, but he doesn't.

Let him call other people names for something they did, not for something they didn't do.

Admiral McCain sounds better.

Posted by: John of Arizona | June 23, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

"IT'S THE DRILLING STUPID." DRILL, DRILL, DRILL, DRILL, DRILL, DRILL, DRILL, DRILL

Posted by: Joe | June 23, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

long-life battery is a good idea. Getting energy from hydrogen is evening better. Unless you are Exxon/Mobile with their agenda to sell you $10/gallon gasoline... And, there-in is the problem... don't blame OPEC for our oil supply addiction... we've got no one to blame but ourselves

Posted by: rememberthe70sgaslines | June 23, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Most you applauding McCain's decision to give $300 million for a new battery probably never graduated from a decent college (or even high school) and have no clue how such a battery can be built, if ever. Last time I checked McCain wasn't a scientist or an electrical engineer so he has no clue either. He just another GOP dope who is so ignorant about technology that he doesn't know how to use a computer. We need real solutions for a real problem, no something McCain read in a science fiction magazine. Such stunts should be enough to get a senator elected from Arizona (a state full of GOP dopes but not one decent university), but not a person who wants to POTUS. Thanks to Dumya's stupid Iraq invasion, the U.S. is now the most hated country in the world, highly skilled foreign scientists and engineers have stopped coming to the U.S.; so who is going to build this magic machine? Not the fat chumps at Detroit, nor the millions of illegal immigrants McCain wants legamize, that's for sure.

Posted by: Paul | June 23, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

If only George Carlin were alive to hear this BS ... what fun he would have with it.

Posted by: Bill Monroe | June 23, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Hey, the proposal is more realistic and useful than Obama's lie that he'll be out of Iraq in 2 months.

Posted by: dyinglikeflies | June 23, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

300 million dollars is a lot to be paying the Japanese for technology that they already have.

Posted by: Brock | June 23, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Wow! I have never seen so many liberals complain about spending our tax dollars. Too bad they can't extend this mentality to welfare, health care etc. At least what McCain proposes gets us something for our tax dollars being spent.

Posted by: obiewan | June 23, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

I thought maybe this article was going to be about pacemaker batteries.

Posted by: cmsatown | June 23, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

If you were able to build a battery that could perform the way he is suggesting would you sell the rights to government?

Also someone mentioned the DARPA projects, these projects are first government implemented then modified for use in the general public. There isn't much the average consumer can do with a dancing robot.

This technology that probably already exists to some extent is not something that corporations are going to want on the market. Can you imagine what the price of a car would be if you had a battery that was going to fuel your car for some 10+ years?

That would be like creating runless sheer pantyhose. It would kill the market!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 23, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Good idea. We can get rid of the patent office. Just have the government offer prizes for stuff we need.

Posted by: spidey103 | June 23, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Given the size of the potential market, and the number of people already involved in developing batteries, I think that there is more than enough incentive for companies to develop these batteries. Far better for the govt to fund primary research needed by the private sector in the area of batteries, as it in in that primary research the real advance will come. Private cos could then bid for the technology and the potential to make it commercially acceptable.
McCain's idea sounds good but what about other things that could use the money - like cures for cancer, aids, diabetes, money for a school system revision that would cause more kids to stay in schoool and learn science and math, a solution to global warming. Batteries are nice but they dont really qualify as essentialls

Posted by: nclwtk | June 23, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

SUCH A BATTERY ALREADY EXISTS! The A123 Systems company developed it 18 months ago, and it was all over the news. They are partnering with GM for production of the "Volt" by 2010. Carley Fiorina (McCain's "economic" advisor) probably read about it, forgot that someone else already invented it, and thought that suggesting it to McCain would land her a spot in his Cabinet. She's been drifting since her ass was kicked to the curb after she nearly destroyed HP.

Posted by: Marilyn Delson | June 23, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

I will tell you something interesting. In my neighborhood a guy owns an electric truck. It is a Ford F100. He bought it from a company that went out of business about ten years ago and it runs perfect. I don't know what he paid for it, he owns a medical billing company and is worth a few hundred million according to the internet so he may have paid a hundred thousand for it who knows. It would not matter to him, but it is really cool though.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 23, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

My point is, the space plane, I think it was developed by the French, has been on the drawing boards ready to go into development for about 20 years.

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"but they have so many trillions in the development in the space shuttles they can;'t just abandon one technology for another."

Come on - that is paranoid talk. Can't never could.

They will stop flying the shuttle in 2010. How much of an investment is that?

New batteries will take billions because everyone will want one. But the initial investment will aid all the rest. It will keep people in private automobiles and out of transit. That is reason enough to let them be.

Posted by: Gary E. Masters | June 23, 2008 3:06 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | June 23, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Nothing goes from scratch to a finished perfect product, it has to evolve. Yes, we have it today and it can be put to use and it will only get better and better if implemented. We also ned improve the technology of the automobile it's self. Todays auto are so inefficient in so many ways it would not matter what kind of battery you had it will run half-assed. Either way the cars could be on the road today and would only get better and better.


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One last thing - if you say "we have the batter but it cost too much" you mean we do not have the battery we need. It will be light, safe and inexpensive - but will last nearly forever and be very rugged. That is what we need, something that can stand up in a wreck and still provide the efficiency we need to go great distances between charges. But the best part will be one that last as long as the car it moves.

Posted by: Gary E. Masters | June 23, 2008 3:02 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | June 23, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

"but they have so many trillions in the development in the space shuttles they can;'t just abandon one technology for another."

Come on - that is paranoid talk. Can't never could.

They will stop flying the shuttle in 2010. How much of an investment is that?

New batteries will take billions because everyone will want one. But the initial investment will aid all the rest. It will keep people in private automobiles and out of transit. That is reason enough to let them be.

Posted by: Gary E. Masters | June 23, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

and you can bet that by the time halliburton or g.e. buys up the prototype, the costs will have escalated to a couple of billion taxpayer dollars... no doubt, with cost plus research dollars included.

Posted by: linda | June 23, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

This is chump change and money well spent if this leads to getting us even partially out from under the "barrel blackmale" savages on the other side of the world.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 23, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

One last thing - if you say "we have the batter but it cost too much" you mean we do not have the battery we need. It will be light, safe and inexpensive - but will last nearly forever and be very rugged. That is what we need, something that can stand up in a wreck and still provide the efficiency we need to go great distances between charges. But the best part will be one that last as long as the car it moves.

Posted by: Gary E. Masters | June 23, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

You know I am old enough to remember reading Popular Science in the 1950's. I remember reading that by 2000 we would all have power cells next to our houses that would power our houses. No more lines all over the place above the streets. And solar cars and on and on. The problem is, to create one industry means to extinguish another. We are run by big business and they are not letting go of their power unless they can control the next thing to come along. The lack of progress is not an accident. You know they could build a space plane today that could just fly into space but they have so many trillions in the development in the space shuttles they can;'t just abandon one technology for another. It will probably be 30 years before they even begin to do it even though they could do it today. That is how it works. Lest face it, we are owned by big business and they call the shots.

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"First the batteries are already developed."

People think this because of the television ads. That is why we need a contest - to put public awareness where it belongs. A good battery for a car that could transport it 300 miles between charges and last over ten years would make transportation simple. A battery for a house could enable all the wind and solar energy to be stored for use when needed and the house could be anywhere in the world.

The truth is that a good battery could give us an age of abundance.

That makes it well worth the effort. perhaps nanotechnology can do the work.

Think solar cells in the desert and batteries shipped to anywhere you need power. Think factories next to the ore deposits. Think pure water where ever you need it. Think of the future.

Posted by: Gary E. Masters | June 23, 2008 2:49 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | June 23, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

"just living in fantasy .."

No wonder we are so far behind, with such a lack of imagination and the ability to see critical paths to the future. The efficient light weight battery is the key missing link in our world. We do need it and it is possible.

What do people do in schools?

Posted by: Gary E. Masters | June 23, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Since they have already been developed and the guy with the rights lives in Seattle, I guess he just has to give them a call and collect his money. They just cost too much to build, it is that simple. There is a thing called "diminishing returns". If something cost more to make then you can sell it for you don't make it.

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I am not a McCain supporter, but this is not a bad idea. The idea of the government giving prizes in return for innovative new technologies has been successfully applied for a few years recently. It worked for the DARPA Grand Challenge for robot navigation, and various NASA prizes, for example. The prize stimulates work towards a specific goal and gives everyone an even chance. While the prize money may be small compared to the ultimate reward of a working technology, it is a big reward for an independent inventor with a good idea, who may have a very hard time getting anyone's attention otherwise.

Posted by: Jon Webb | June 23, 2008 2:32 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | June 23, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

"First the batteries are already developed."

People think this because of the television ads. That is why we need a contest - to put public awareness where it belongs. A good battery for a car that could transport it 300 miles between charges and last over ten years would make transportation simple. A battery for a house could enable all the wind and solar energy to be stored for use when needed and the house could be anywhere in the world.

The truth is that a good battery could give us an age of abundance.

That makes it well worth the effort. perhaps nanotechnology can do the work.

Think solar cells in the desert and batteries shipped to anywhere you need power. Think factories next to the ore deposits. Think pure water where ever you need it. Think of the future.

Posted by: Gary E. Masters | June 23, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

What are you going to drill with? You don't buy drilling platforms at Sears. There are only I think three companies in the world that build them and there is like a five to 7 year waiting list if you can get one at all. A platform that sold in 2000 for 150 million dollars is today costing more then a half a billion and are expected to be bid on to get one. I would say that 150 million dollar platform in no time will be 2 billion and the Chinese will just pay what ever it cost to get one. It is easy to say "Lets go drill' But it would be 10 years before we would see the first drop of the oil if ever. Yu just keep listening and Mccain will tell you what ever you want to hear. That is the business he is in.

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Go McCain! McCain 08!

The only person so far to propose opening up the costs for drilling and now companies and R&D have the possibility of doing research and getting rewarded $300 Million for it.

McCain has ideas. Obama is a fool who wants to continue to block drilling and will not support research.

Posted by: Thomas | June 23, 2008 1:51 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | June 23, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Hey Daddio on the Paddio, I'm all giddy over you knowledge.

Posted by: Sweet16 | June 23, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

I am not a McCain supporter, but this is not a bad idea. The idea of the government giving prizes in return for innovative new technologies has been successfully applied for a few years recently. It worked for the DARPA Grand Challenge for robot navigation, and various NASA prizes, for example. The prize stimulates work towards a specific goal and gives everyone an even chance. While the prize money may be small compared to the ultimate reward of a working technology, it is a big reward for an independent inventor with a good idea, who may have a very hard time getting anyone's attention otherwise.

Posted by: Jon Webb | June 23, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

First the batteries are already developed. It is not the lack of a battery but the lack of everything else. 87% of all the power in a gallon of gas is lost to inertia friction and drag. That is a fact. There is no reason cars today can't get 150 miles to a gallon except for the fact the car is built using technology over a 100 years old. The roller bearings in the car you drive now are little different from what were in a model T. The internal combustion engine is very much the same as was used in 1887 when the first cars were being developed. You know why a stick shift gets better mileage then an automatic? Because of the difference in the weight of the two transmutations, A stick tranny is hundreds of pounds lighter. We should have cars with some kind of frictionless fluid or magnetic bearings. Cars need to be lighter and stronger. A child should be able to walk up behind a standing car and push it. Every 100 lb.'s of added weight used 2 % of the available power to move it. Our exhaust systems are too restrictive and waste power while not cutting down on pollution one bit. Again ancient technology. The newest car rolling off the assembly line today is technologically speaking, an antique. A computer assisted antique, but an antique never the less. Without development in all aspects the power source doesn't matter. By the way they had water injected engines in world war two. Mitsubishi built them. City of Hollywood Florida tested then in the early 80's on their squad cars and they worked fine. I used to have a motorhome that got from the factory 11 miles to the gallon. I got it up to 20. A little here and a little there it all adds up if you know what you are doing. I would suspect there is a good business in it today retrofitting cars to increase mileage. It is actually pretty easy. Hell, just changing out the exhaust system on most care will get you up to 20 % better mileage.


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Lots of naysayers in here today. $300 million is a lotta money and should get technology jump started. For the person that said batteries are already being developed...true, but this moves the best (and most expensive) technologies into the realm of possibility now.

Study economic impact and finance in addition to your teckie geekdom.

Posted by: Daddio on the Paddio | June 23, 2008 11:07 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | June 23, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

What a ridiculous stunt! Doesn't McCain know that if someone could develop a battery that meets his criteria, they could make BILLIONS from the auto manufacturers? Does he think that the reason we can't get a better battery is because the financial incentives are not there? What a dope.

Posted by: NM Moderate | June 23, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

The private sector is already investing billions in clean tech. Why force the tax payers into investing more capital? And this coming from a republican?

Posted by: Jeremy | June 23, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

amazing. a Republican proposing to use your tax dollars to have government influence the private sector. a waste of taxpayer money. if anyone was prepared to develop such a battery, they wouldn't need the 300 mil to be motivated or to pull it off, but they would gladly take the tax money as an additional reward on top of the billion or so they would sell it for. what an idiot. If Obama proposed such a stunt, Rush and Sean and the rest would go ape.

Posted by: JoeT | June 23, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Go McCain! McCain 08!

The only person so far to propose opening up the costs for drilling and now companies and R&D have the possibility of doing research and getting rewarded $300 Million for it.

McCain has ideas. Obama is a fool who wants to continue to block drilling and will not support research.

Posted by: Thomas | June 23, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

In what respect?

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from the comments, you lower, lower class deserve what you get.
and i am as low as they get, and it is getting worse. from Cannada

Posted by: just adad+ | June 23, 2008 1:41 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | June 23, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

from the comments, you lower, lower class deserve what you get.
and i am as low as they get, and it is getting worse. from Cannada

Posted by: just adad+ | June 23, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

This guy is as stupid as Bush not knowing gas was almost $4.00 a gallon. They already have the barrettes they just cost too much. If the government wants to subsidizer them we can all have them and the price would begin to come down.
Mccain is a complete idiot. What will it be next week jet packs for everybody? I am sitting here amazed at who must be advising Mccain. He himself obviously knows nothing about what he is talking about. Someone needs to tell him about Google.

http://www.commutercars.com/

Posted by: Anonymous | June 23, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Last week he wanted to go to Mars. This guy is floundering.

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Anything for a sound bite, eh John?

Something real would be nice.

Posted by: Susan | June 23, 2008 12:59 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | June 23, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

All they need to do is put together a Manhattan project again and just do it. His idea is just silly. You don't wait for things to happen and hope, you make them happen. By the way. a company would spend more then three hundred million just on R&D. That is no incentive. Our current battery technology came from work by NASA such as that drill you have in the garage. They would have no problem doing if they really wanted to try..

Posted by: Anonymous | June 23, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Anything for a sound bite, eh John?

Something real would be nice.

Posted by: Susan | June 23, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Another major story is Ralph Nader's continued attempts to get on the ballot in many states. He is actually doing better than he was in 2004. Full roundup: http://www.campaigndiaries.com/2008/06/third-party-news-ralph-nader-works-to.html

Posted by: Dan | June 23, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

$300 million seems like a lot of money, but for oil companies that make $40 billion/year profit, it is a drop in the bucket. The inventor on anything that would improve gas mileage will most likely do what has been done for countless other technologies.. sell it to an oil company who will in turn lock it into a closet to protect their product! In short, it is an interesting idea, but seems more like an election-year gimmick than anything else.

Posted by: Tim | June 23, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Batter power is fantastic now. I can run my Ford F-150 on vibrator batteries for 150 miles...but can't transport any women without them getting overheated...

Posted by: Daddio | June 23, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Really does not take an intelligent person to understand the technology has been there since the 50's and sixty's. It's their, but to dam late, for it is all about money. Funny they do not understand none of us take it with us. But feel so very sorry for American and the Canadians cleaning up this mess that well not go away soon I really do not get worried abour politics, but our family, at 55 we left our children is a horrible North America.
May your god bless you..

Posted by: justadad55+ | June 23, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Any one who wants to buld an overland or water vehicle that has an extended range has zero pollution with an energy storage system that is safe, developed and available should contact me. Ron Grube, rongrube@gtmc.net

Posted by: old coot | June 23, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Bwahahahaha! Does such a battery exist? How long before such a battery is invented, if ever? John McSame's proposal ranks just below Bush's "we're sending a man to mars" proposal. Typical republicans. No solutions for real problems...just living in fantasy with the expectations that God will fix everything.

Posted by: Playa | June 23, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

energy talk this week from both candidates:

http://thevote.abc13.com/2008/06/energetic-specu.html

Posted by: tomabrahams | June 23, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Steve -

Are you dumb, too? If you're so smart, what's your proposal? Or can you just call people names? C'mon Steve, back it up dude!

Posted by: Daddio | June 23, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Lots of naysayers in here today. $300 million is a lotta money and should get technology jump started. For the person that said batteries are already being developed...true, but this moves the best (and most expensive) technologies into the realm of possibility now.

Study economic impact and finance in addition to your teckie geekdom.

Posted by: Daddio on the Paddio | June 23, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Where is he going to get the electricity to run these cars? What is he proposing in order to solve this need? Burn more coal? If he talking wind or solar to back it up, then fine, but there is more to it than a better battery.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 23, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Hee hee, reminds me of Phileas Fogg.

Posted by: johng1 | June 23, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Well-meaning but dumb. There is no lack of incentive to make good batteries. A company that makes one near what McCain suggests will reap huge benefits in profits from sales of the batteries. Only a politician (who is used to giving money to firms that don't need it) would think this would stimulate the marketplace and result in speeding up the technology.

So much for free-market economics.

Posted by: steve boyington | June 23, 2008 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Interesting McCain campaign political gimmick? First it was the "Gas Tax Holiday" and now its the "$300 million electric battery challenge"!

I guess this is one way to distract the American public and media, from McCain's flip-flop position on off-shore oil drilling.

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | June 23, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

The candidates still need to get good VP's, and http://www.votenic.com holds a weekly Vice President poll, so see who America thinks should back the candidates.

Posted by: Trent | June 23, 2008 9:24 AM | Report abuse

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