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Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) shared a laugh with Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) at a Washington meeting in 2006, before either of them launched a presidential bid. (Associated Press)

Updated 8:49 p.m.
By Anne E. Kornblut
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton will suspend her campaign late this week, senior campaign officials confirmed tonight.

Clinton will host an event in Washington on Saturday "to thank her supporters and express her support for Senator Obama and party unity," according to Howard Wolfson, who did not explicitly state that Clinton is dropping out of the race. But other campaign officials said the event will coincide with her departure, despite her earlier reservations about stepping aside.

The campaign first planned the event for Friday, but moved it to Saturday as news of Clinton's plan spread. "This event will be held on Saturday to accommodate more of Senator Clinton's supporters who want to attend," the campaign said in a statement.

Clinton has not made the announcement to her entire staff yet; earlier today, she made a surprise visit to the campaign headquarters in Ballston to thank her aides.

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Posted by: roger wallace | June 6, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

If Obama can't take Hillary as V.P. then I can't take him for Pres. - I will follow his lead in "unity".

Posted by: unity | June 6, 2008 9:30 AM | Report abuse

You idiot Clinton lovers need to get over it.
So big deal with the flip off. can't you take a joke.

She deserved it for all the chit she was throwing at President Barack Obama. WE DON'T NEED YOUR DUMB ASSES ANYWAY. JUST STFU.

Posted by: jamaal | June 6, 2008 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Last night while I was reading this I just happened to be listening to Jerry Garcia singing "Get Out of My Life", an Allen Toussaint song. For those who don't understand how appropriate this is, let me lay the lyrics on you:

Get out of my life, woman,
I don't love you any more.
Get out of my life, woman,
I don't love you any more.
Get out of my life, woman,
You're nothing but heartaches by the score.

Get out of my life, teardrops,
I need to see my way around.
Get out of my life, teardrops,
I need to see my way around.
Get out of my life, teardrops,
You're nothing but heartaches by the pound.


Short but to the point. :-)

Posted by: treetopflyer | June 6, 2008 4:12 AM | Report abuse

I hate Obama writes:

"I hate Obama."

Know ye that nothing lasting or good in the universe has been achieved by hate; it acts primarily against the being who harbors it and corrodes the soul.

Posted by: spinotter | June 6, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

New York Post

Hillary Rodham Clinton is ending her quest for the presidency precisely as she began it: with a false sense of entitlement, complete self-absorption and delusional lies.

Now everyone agrees that she has lost the nomination. Barack Obama will be the nominee.

Yet she refuses to acknowledge this simple, clear truth so that the vital process of converting her supporters into supporters of the actual nominee can begin.

In her fantasy world where she is still in control, everything is upside down.

It's as if Obama should be waiting by the phone in hopes she might offer him a spot on the ticket.

When Obama called Clinton Tuesday night to (magnanimously) congratulate her on winning the South Dakota primary, her campaign twice let the calls go to voice mail.

It is true that Clinton eventually commanded a considerable force in this primary.

But she still lost. And she lost profoundly, by every metric imaginable.

This is one of those defining moments.

For Barack Obama, for the Democratic Party and, possibly, for the country.

Obama has run a campaign against the moral shortcuts and twisted truths that have been so viciously perfected by the Clintons and left American politics in ruin.

Obama should make it clear now that he has no intention whatsoever of picking Clinton as his running mate.

Picking her, especially in light of her current antics, would make a lie of Obama's campaign. And failing to rule her out now keeps the lights going on her corrosive carnival stage.

In 1992, Bill Clinton's campaign had a sign on the wall reminding them that the campaign was all about the economy.

The Obama campaign should put up a sign of their own: "It's the Clintons, stupid!"

Posted by: Anonymous | June 5, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

That's right, Lillith. I am suspending my campaign, not ending it. I am suspending it just long enough to get a hold of this "whitey" tape. Then after that, I won't need to do anything else, because all the superdelegates will return to me. I deserve this nomination, I won the popular vote, and I will not be defeated by sexism.

Posted by: Hillary Rodham Clinton | June 5, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

I will not rush to judgment in hopes that Hillary Clinton is conceding the presidential nomination.After all, she has emphasized that she is "SUSPENDING" her campaign for Obama's spot - NOT "ENDING" her bid for the presidency. Since the lightening bolt did not strike him on the anniversary of Robert Kennedy's Assassination, then she's waiting for something else to transpire that will be equally fatal. With someone like Bill and Hillary Clinton behind the scene, Barack better stay on his toes and those around him had better remain vigilant.

It's awfully strange that Hillary's staunch supporters and "superdelegates" (not so super in my opinion)Donna Brazile and her colleague Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs-Jones (who should be ashamed of themselves for their displaced loyalties)are still hanging around Hillary and say they will not come over to Obama's camp without permission from Hillary, which she won't give. However, if Hillary had won, the DNC (Ms. Pelosi and the rest) would have rushed to her side and demanded that Barack behave appropriately. There is clearly a double standard going on here and I am certain it's not because he's a MALE. No one in the Democratic Party has the guts to say it, but we all know it's because he is only one half Caucasian, which they and the media refuse to recognize.

Pelosi knows how long she's wanted the Speaker's job and how hard she lobbied for it, even though there were others qualified to fill the position and she got it - even though she hasn't even filled the shoes of her predecessor, and appears too weak to do what needs to be done. Just like Hillary's refusal to step up and stop acting like a sore loser. If we as women are going to be seen as capable, tough and intelligently as men, we can't decide to act like babies when we lose a fair fight and don't get our way. This is no time to whine and whimper. This is the time to be show our moxy and get over our tender feelings. I hope there are other women out their who feel as I do, because somebody has to tell these wimpy women that they are an embarrassment to the rest of us!

These wimpy women are setting the women's lib movement back a hundred years, by making men feel that we can't fight fairly. Fight fair in my opinion doesn't include a bucket of tears when I don't win something. Losing should give women and anyone in a contest, the ba--s to get back up, brush yourself of and keep moving forward - not backward. Hillary, Pelosi, Tubbs-Jones and Brazile be adults and move the hell on. Give the man his due. You fought, you lost and he won.

One key point to Hillary. Those 18 million votes you claim were ill gotten by your belief that when all else fails, and the Black man or woman is winning, pulling the old "race" card from the deck always works with those who inherently has minorities in this country. Hitler knew how to use this as well at the misfortune of so many innocent Jews, many of whom were saved in WWI because American Black soldiers and Tuskegee fighter pilots went over and shot down German planes and killed German soldiers to prevent more Jews from going into the gas tanks. Think about that and do not try to turn the clock back on Black and White relations. Black soldiers gave their lives also to preserve the freedoms you and other White Americans enjoy today.

Posted by: Lillith | June 5, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

I understand the frustration of Senator Clinton's supporters. Regardless, to them, I say:

John Paul Stevens (age 88)
Ruth Bader Ginsburg (age 75)
Antonin Scalia (age 72)
Anthony Kennedy (age 71)
Stephen Breyer (age 69)
David Souter (age 68)
Clarence Thomas (age 59)
Samuel Alito (age 58)
John Roberts (age 53)

And I have a question for them:

Who do you want appointing Justice Stevens' replacement on the US Supreme Court...Senator Obama or Senator McCain?

Be angry for a day, a week, a month or for many months...but come November, do not put our rights at risk for a generation to come.

Posted by: bannerscwt | June 5, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

I will be interested to hear how you plan to win Ohio, Ark, Florida and Pa without the HC voters which your supporters come here and slime every day and state you no longer need in the party. Perhaps you think that carrying 51% of the D vote is all you need to win those states b/c of the very reliable GenY voters who you are so sure will turn out. Sounds exactly like the McGovern strategy. How did that campaign work out for you guys?

Posted by: Leichtman | June 5, 2008 10:30 AM

Obama is already beating McCain in the polls in PA and OH. This proves that the idea that any of these States can't be won without Clinton--or her few supporters brainwashed enough to believe her lies--has no basis in reality.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 5, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

True democrats should now unite behind Obama.

Yes, I expect to hear from many Rush trolls acting like the idiots they are...

Posted by: Sally | June 5, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

"I would be EXTREMELY skeptical of anyone calling themselves "Clinton supporter" and posting here saying that they would not support Sen. Obama."

Posted by: ovwong | June 4, 2008 10:23 PM

Curious Why you would think that? Are you Entiled to our votes.


As Dan accurately posted O supporters bully people and act like they don't need the 18 million HC voters. Do you think that we are like the DNC and Michigan voters who will just reward your campaign for absolutely no reason whatsoever? You insult and abuse HC and her supporters and then ask, Why won't they support us?

Bob Doghtery was right on the mark about HC supporters and Sindc saying "So long to This D party" speaks volumes of how most HC supporters feel.

Good Luck with your O attitude in the fall.

I will be interested to hear how you plan to win Ohio, Ark, Florida and Pa without the HC voters which your supporters come here and slime every day and state you no longer need in the party. Perhaps you think that carrying 51% of the D vote is all you need to win those states b/c of the very reliable GenY voters who you are so sure will turn out. Sounds exactly like the McGovern strategy. How did that campaign work out for you guys?

Posted by: Leichtman | June 5, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

I hate Obama - By any chance, do you hate Obama?

Posted by: Chuckamok | June 5, 2008 8:05 AM | Report abuse

Barrack Obama is A TROJAN HORSE! He claims to be a friend of America yet he's actually quite the opposite. Does anyone understand what he really is!?!? He Hates America more than Hitler Hated the Jews. His hate is unforgiving and everlasting! He is ACTING! Simply ACTING! Think about his church! He was there for over 20 Years, that's 20 years multiplied by 52 Sundays, which equals 1,040 Anti-American Sermons! He then, finally, signs an "official resignation" and we're all supposed think everything's alright?!? The KKK should have Sunday Church and we can all attend for 1,040 Sundays then just "resign", I'm sure noone would ever think we still shared the KKK's views... WAKE UP!!!!!! "IF" America has a 2nd Civil War it will be called "The War of the Free" I am ashamed of our country, just ashamed... We have become the United States of Retardica! If "we" fall the world will... We are a Benevolent Country, GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Posted by: No One | June 5, 2008 8:00 AM | Report abuse

Barrack Obama is A TROJAN HORSE! He claims to be a friend of America yet he's actually quite the opposite. Does anyone understand what he really is!?!? He Hates America more than Hitler Hated the Jews. His hate is unforgiving and everlasting! He is ACTING! Simply ACTING! Think about his church! He was there for over 20 Years, that's 20 years multiplied by 52 Sundays, which equals 1,040 Anti-American Sermons! He then, finally, signs an "official resignation" and we're all supposed think everything's alright?!? The KKK should have Sunday Church and we can all attend for 1,040 Sundays then just "resign", I'm sure noone would ever think we still shared the KKK's views... WAKE UP!!!!!! "IF" America has a 2nd Civil War it will be called "The War of the Free" I am ashamed of our country, just ashamed... We have become the United States of Retardica! If "we" fall the world will... We are a Benevolent Country, GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Posted by: No One | June 5, 2008 8:00 AM | Report abuse

YOU MUST SEE THIS uTube SHOW OF HILLARY'S DOWN FALL!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8Ky1_pyn6Q

Posted by: Anonymous | June 5, 2008 6:12 AM | Report abuse

From today, I am officially a MCCAIN DEMOCRAT.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 5, 2008 5:39 AM | Report abuse

Let's see now. Supposedly Obama won this all on his own. But if he loses then it is already Hillary's fault.

Posted by: McCain will win | June 5, 2008 4:56 AM | Report abuse

First Howard Dean, Carl Levin, John Edwards, Obama, DNC Insiders and Super Delegates abandon us, the American people. Now if Hillary does so also by sanctioning the Crimes Against Democracy by Carl Levin, Howard Dean, John Edwards, Obama and the DNC Insiders by allocating delegates to Obama from Michigan when HE took his name off the ballot. Time for American Democrats to follow Ronald Regan's lead (Ron was a blind Democrat before seeing the light and becoming a democrat) and change parties. Many of thought that the Democratic Party could be saved by Hillary, but now even she has abaonded us, the American People.

American Democratcs, American Republicans, American Independents for McCain. McCain should now choose Ross Perot as his running mate. If he does he will beat Obama (with Hillary or not) by over 20 percentage points. The Democatic Party is dust in the wind. Democrats for McCain.
If you want to sanction Crimes against Democracy, similar to the Crimes against Tibetans (cultural genocide in Tibet) and Crimes against Mums in Texas (DNC Insiders social workers who took children from Mums and Dads, and required Republican and American Civil Liberty Judges to order the children to be returned to their Mums) then stay in the DNC Insiders controlled Democratic Party.

But if you are sick of corruption from within the Democratic Party by Howard Dean, Carl Levin, John Edwards, Obama and now EVEN Hillary, by her supporting these thugs and criminals, then cross over and vote THEM ALL OUT OF OFFICE this coming November. Democrats for America, and an American War hero, McCain. What better man is there to lead us out of Iraq and Afghanistan than a man who HAS experience with our exit from Vietnam. And Vietnam is now one of our good trading partners. So McCain and the Republicans know what they are doing. Knowing many Iraqis and Afghanis their countries are much better now then they were with Sadam and the Northern Alliance running the ship. We had our War of Independence and got support from our French and Native American Indian allies. Obama and the Democrats would abandon both the Iraqi People and the Afghani People. We as Amerians need to Fight to the end, like with did in WWII against the Germans and Japanese. And then rather than taking revenge, as the world leaders did after WWI, which lead to WWII, we helped Germany and Japan rebuild. Both are now two of our closest friends and allies. We need to do the same now with both Iraq and Afghanistan. The Republicans are the best equipped to do so. McCain is a natural born leader. Many of thought Hillary was the same. But now that the going has got tough, she has abandoned us the American people and the approximately 18,000,000 million people who have supported her. But fortnately she did it now, and not after we suppported her in her run for the USA Presidency. That would have been a disaster. So in many ways thanks Hillary for showing us your TRUE Colors. You had hoodwinked a lot of us, but now we see you are more loyal to the Democratic party.

Posted by: Aussie2020 | June 5, 2008 4:19 AM | Report abuse

I hate Obama.

He does not love this country.

The way he is treating Hillary, because she received more votes than him, is disgusting.

Obama is disgusting.

I will not vote for Obama because of the issues.

I will vote against Obama because of him and his tactics.

I have never voted for a Republican in my life but now I will happily vote for McCain which is a vote against the Democratic Party and Obama.

I hate Obama.

I hate Obama.

I hate Obama.

I hate Obama.

I hate Obama.

I hate Obama.

I hate Obama.

Posted by: I hate Obama. | June 5, 2008 3:36 AM | Report abuse

Hillary now claims that she will half heartedly concede to Obama on Saturday, but not on Friday. She wants to hold onto her candidacy for one more day than others in the party wanted her to. That's only because she considers herself to be somebody special who deserves to hold onto it for one more day.

Hillary also wants to hold onto her delegates. Now, that is really funny. What can she do with those delegates. Make them all pass gas on Obama's face? I don't understand why she wants to hold onto them. Is that like a bargaining chip? She thinks it is some kind of cattle trade that is going to happen at the convention.

Posted by: Jeff Conners | June 5, 2008 3:21 AM | Report abuse

Oh no! If this happens then there will be 18 million Americans who become invisible! How will we be able to preserve their safety as pedestrians? How will we protect ourselves from invisible shoplifters if some of them turn bad?

Posted by: Rubiconski | June 5, 2008 3:19 AM | Report abuse

NOBODY "screwed over" Hillary... she did it all by her Bosnia, Bogus gas tax, Iran obliterating, white, white Americans, self !!!

She was the front runner and had all the advantages... money, the Clinton name, and decades of experience at campaigning.

She underestimated her competitiion, spent all her money too soon, picked the wrong campaign manager, didn't find the right message until too late, and polarized the party by stirring up MI & FL into thinking they were being disenfranchised..... two states she didn't give a hoot about until she was behind in delegates.

She then resorted to race-bating and character-bashing and kitchen sink-throwing and many other divisive tactics... never thinking enough ahead to think that it might all come back to haunt her... which it is.

She played at the old way of politics, which is all she knows. But this is a new generation of voters, and even many, many of us baby-boomers and Republicans and Independents can see through the spin and see the truth.... and we are convincing our parents and friends... and the Obama movement just keeps growing and it is UNSTOPPABLE !!!

President Barack Obama !!

Posted by: Rubiconski | June 5, 2008 2:34 AM | Report abuse

Obama should pick someone to be VP before 5pm this friday. When Hillary asks why she wasn't picked he could claim he wasn't sure when she would end her campaign, if ever, and he had to make a decision.

Posted by: Humpty Dumpty | June 5, 2008 2:33 AM | Report abuse

After that conference call the news spread like wildfire that Hillary will concede on Friday. But given her stubbornness and high ego, she wanted to postpone it for yet another day. Now the song will be sung on Saturday instead of Friday.

She doesn't want them to forget who wears the pants suit.

Posted by: Humpty Dumpty | June 5, 2008 2:02 AM | Report abuse

She's just "suspended" the campaign, she's not out yet.

If anyone wants the rest of the U.S. to see the light about Obama, get his answer to one of these on video and upload it to Youtube:

http://nomoreblather.com/obama-questions

Even if you don't want to ask one of those yourself, it's available in printable form so you can pass out copies before his appearances.

Posted by: LonewackoDotCom | June 5, 2008 1:24 AM | Report abuse

well the oval orfice is still oval . it is not the overy office.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 5, 2008 1:17 AM | Report abuse

here are the differences between mccain and obama on the war:

here are the differences between obama and mccain on the war:

http://thevote.abc13.com/2008/06/heating-up-betw.html

Posted by: tomabrahams | June 5, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

I am totally amazed at the media and all involved stating Obama is inexperienced and needs Senator Clinton. Americans voted in a president whom never fought in a war, started a war and it took two years for him to be educated enough to speak properly to the American public on Tv without a script. Give Obama a chance. He is young, smart, and has plenty of support to manage America. Yes, it will take some time for him to know everything about world issues. He will however learn Quickly without the help of the Clintons. He is still just a man, but be dam proud of him. Surly the media can stop the spinning and give him a chance now that Hilary is gone. Surly he deserves that. She is gone,you have been spared. The image tonight of Robert Kennedy was a sick choice to use at this time. When will you people ask for real news before some nut case from your country does something terrible.
Bless you all.

Posted by: justadad55+ | June 5, 2008 12:56 AM | Report abuse

Is this truth? How come not one US media pay attention to it. Seems like McShame and GWB are plotting Iraq ocupation for years to come.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/revealed-secret-plan-to-keep-iraq-under-us-control-840512.html

Posted by: JR, Virginia | June 5, 2008 12:49 AM | Report abuse

WE DO NOT NEED A DEVISEIVE WOMAN AS THE VICE PRESIDENT. SHE DESERVES NO HONOR FOR BEING A DRAGUN . SHE IS TRYING TO USE LEVERAGE TO BE VICE . AAARRRRGGGGGUH AAARRRRGGGUH. SHE HAS NO RIGH TO POLITIC TO BE VICE. WE ALL WANT CHANGE. BEING A WOMAN IS NOT WHAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR IN CHANGE. NO BARGAIN WITH THE NOMINEE AT ALL. TO BARGAIN FOR VICE IS JUST LIKE THE LITTLE CHILD IN SCHOOL WHO IS TO STUBORN TO DO RIGHT. THE VICE PRESIDENTCY IS NOT FOR SALE OR TO BE BARGAINED FOR . MY GOD LADY YOU NEED HELP IN MY OPINION. AL GORE HAD THE ELECTION STOLEN AND DID YOU DO ANYTHING TO HELP HIM , ALSO THE COUNTRY WAS GIVEN AWAY HILLARY WITH NAFTA AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT OF WORK BECAUSE OF YOU AND BILL. WE HAVE LOST OUR LIVELYHOOD IN AMERICA BECAUSE OF NAFTA. WE NEED YOU TO GET TO WORK IN THE SENATE FOR THE PEOPLE TO GET THEIR JOBS BACK . REDEEM YOUR ACTIONS FOR SIGNING THE COUNTRY AWAY UNDER NAFTA. IN MY OPINION YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED TO BE IN A SERVANTS POSITION BECAUSE OF NAFTA. YOU HAVE A LOT OF GALL IN MY OPINION TO EXPECT TO BE A SENATOR OR VICE OR ANYTHING IN GOVERNMENT. NAFTA IN MY OPINION WAS TREASON. I AM A VIET NAM VETERAN AND I NEED A JOB AND SO DO MY CHILDREN ,GOOD ONES. I AM ASHAMED OF SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE HELPED TO TANK OUR COUNTRY. TO SEE OUR COUNTRY IN THE CONDITION IT IS IN IS LIKE SEEING AND OLD FRIEND RIPED APART BY RAVENOUS DOGS. CARELESS BILLS BEING SIGNED TO BRING HURT TO THE PEOPLE IS NOT WHAT PEOPLE WANT. WE WANT THIS GOVERNMENT TO BE OF THE people BY THE people AND FOR THE people. we want our pride back. and not crooks bargaining for our right and freedom. to expect hard working officials to do all they can to ensure the people have employment opportunity. I believe you need experience on regaining our jobs. I do not trust you at all . I do trust the president to be ,senator Barark H. Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: pubichaironmycokecan | June 4, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Lost Tribe Of Hillary Holdouts Found

- BREAKING NEWS -

The first contact in several years with remnants of a holdout band of Hillary Clinton supporters took place yesterday, with a helicopter flyover identifying the handful of survivors. Unwilling to concede that the 2008 Democratic presidential primary had been fairly conducted, the hardy but dwindling tribe became increasingly isolated during the Obama/Leahy administrations, eschewing television and rumored to be surviving only on moss, pant suit juice and the occasional squirrel.

Following the merger of the Republican and Democratic Parties and repeal of the 22nd Amendment in 2015 which allowed Beloved Leader Obama's election to a third term by an unprecedented Electoral College vote of 538 - 0, the tribe disappeared and has not been heard from for several years. Until this sighting, the continued existence of the "Hillarians" was doubted and their story had passed into the realm of urban legend.

Posted by: pubichaironmycokecan | June 4, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

"Leave Hillary Alone!"

It's a deal, if she leaves us alone.

Posted by: Chuckamok | June 4, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: pubichaironmycokecan | June 4, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

A true patriot speaks up against sending American service men and women off to die in a shambolc and pointless war. The true patriot is Obama.
Posted by: mightycrows | June 4, 2008 10:39 PM
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Are their children too young to be dismembered?
God bless the BUSH child!

Posted by: harried | June 4, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

By reading the comments here come to 2 conclusions about Obama supporters: Like someone said they write very poorly. It probably speaks for the demographics that voted for him-The potheads 30 and under abd the blacks and who else?

Posted by: mediastinks | June 4, 2008 10:44 PM

++++++++++++++++++

Contrast that with y'all good spellers and better edukated from W. Virginia, Appalachia State, Tennessee, Alabama, eh?

Which states --- on average --- have more educated people:

1. Oregon and Minnesota, on the one hand,

or

2. W. Virginia and Kentucky, on the other?

Both sets of staes, please note, have overwhelming White majorities...

Two went overwhelmingly for Clinton/McCain and two went overwhelmingly for Obama/That Pot Smokin' Liberal...

LOL

Posted by: Her Lao | June 4, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

I just put an old Indian curse on you Lowtreasures. I thought you had vaporized with Clinton, but stronger measures are obviously needed.

Posted by: Chief Two Dogs | June 4, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

"By reading the comments here come to 2 conclusions about Obama supporters: Like someone said they write very poorly. It probably speaks for the demographics that voted for him-The potheads 30 and under abd the blacks and who else?"

Yeah, and Hillary supporters are superb writers. ;)

Posted by: Chuckamok | June 4, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

News Flash: EVERYONE here is anonymous. You can type in whatever f#cking name you want. This board is a joke.
Posted by: Barack Obama | June 4, 2008 10:34 PM
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Harried has been here since 2002!
He has a WaPo profile!

Posted by: harried | June 4, 2008 10:38 PM
________________________________
(Sigh!) I'm sorry. I can't fake it any more. I'm a charlatan, a fool, and a lowlife with no life. Apologies all around for the coarseness of my discourse and the insulting, juvenile quality of my unreasoning posts. From now on I will attempt to back up all my opinions with facts and respect those who differ with me as people with a right to their own opinions. I'm sorry for being such a jerk.

That's it for tonight. I'm going to watch some Sesame Street DVDs so I can learn the lessons of civilized behavior that never took when I was a child. Hopefully tomorrow you'll let me play with you - I promise I'll be good.

Goodnight.

Posted by: harried | June 4, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

It appears that Hillary ended up attending a conference call called on by some senior heavy weights in the democratic party. She was basically asked by the senior well wishers of the party to step aside and give Obama the breathing room to posture his general election campaign. Finally Hillary was given the wacking in private to make her concede to Obama or the democratic party will face the dire consequence in November. They had asked her to concede by Friday.

After that conference call the news spread like wildfire that Hillary will concede on Friday. But given her stubbornness and high ego, she wanted to postpone it for yet another day. Now the song will be sung on Saturday instead of Friday.

It had been a long campaign. The experienced, inevitable, in it to win, ready on day one, ready to pick up the phone at 3am, the savior of the hard working uneducated white people, and the aristocratic queen Hillary is finally sending her pantsuits to the cleaners.

Being a woman, I would've loved to see a woman become president. But from day one, this lady seemed too polarizing to carry the womanhood banner to the white house. In a few years the Clinton's will be part of history, a smudge in our country's political history.

Posted by: Connie | June 4, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

This is to all of you Obamaites who thinks you've won the victory of the century, a definitive trouncing, a majestic lopsided, butt kicking, smashing defeat of the vaunted Hillary.

While you've had those 10,000 upwards to 75,000 people rallies and you've been screaming high and holy accolades of your candidate in fact Hillary has garnered just about a solid 50% of the vote. Now, she did this without 75,000 supporters in a stadium.

What part of this don't you get? She has virtually as many votes as your guy and without the movie star coefficient.

And...she has won the BIG CITIES, and has won THE MOST POPULOUS STATES that are all NECESSARY FOR A VICTORY IN NOVEMBER.

And you and the electronic and print press are first class IDIOTS not to recognize the NECESSITY of this POLITICAL FUNDAMENTAL.

I did a little research this afternoon. Research about caucuses and changing party affiliation from Republican to Democrat just before the vote. Hence, allowing a REPUBLICAN TO VOTE IN THE DEMOCRATIC caucus election. Can't do this in a primary but you can do this in a caucus.

AND IT HAPPENED A LOT.

Look it up for yourself.

And then ask yourself why this wasn't fully covered by the major electronic news outlets and investigated by, let's say, this paper.

And now Obama gets to kick off his campaign with Rezco's conviction. Which, by the way is a tip of an iceberg. Or the top of a volcano. Depending upon your point of view so to speak.


Obama did not in the wildest of imaginations (except YOUR imaginations) win a VICTORY.

WHAT HE WON IS SOMETHING ELSE that has yet to be considered, understood and investigated.

I fail to understand why you are so damn happy considering what he is up against as submitted by the Republicans.


And this is why I consider you political idiots.
And for the record I do intend to (unless there is a really nutsy type connection or fault) vote Democrat in November.

And for the record I'd have to hold my nose for either candidate when I vote.

Given the reality of today you Obamites HAVE VERY LITTLE TO CHEER ABOUT. That is, if you are caring and loyal Democrats you don't.

Posted by: jatox | June 4, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

I am reminded of the scene from "Goodfellas" after Tommy is killed. "He's gone. There was nothing we could do." And that's that.

On to slay McSame!

Posted by: Chief Two Dogs | June 4, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Barack Obama | June 4, 2008 10:34 PM
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Point well taken. Now all we need is to get WaPo's little "EDUCATED" aholes to fix it up, huh?

Posted by: harried | June 4, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

intcamd1 whined -

"...[W]hen in Nov your Mr Empty suit has lost NJ and PA, not to mention OH and FL, you can finally start wondering what happened."
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We're probably going to be enjoying watching Virginia, the Carolinas, Georgia, Missouri, Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi return to the Democrats because black people, long taken for granted by and unenthusiastic about the Democratic party, finally have a candidate who won't abandon them after getting their votes. Someone who'll represent ALL of America. He'll even consider your concerns important.

Watch all that tooth grinding. You could end up with an expensive dentist's bill!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

By reading the comments here come to 2 conclusions about Obama supporters: Like someone said they write very poorly. It probably speaks for the demographics that voted for him-The potheads 30 and under abd the blacks and who else?

Posted by: mediastinks | June 4, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

A true patriot speaks up against sending American service men and women off to die in a shambolc and pointless war. The true patriot is Obama.

Posted by: mightycrows | June 4, 2008 10:39 PM | Report abuse

News Flash: EVERYONE here is anonymous. You can type in whatever f#cking name you want. This board is a joke.
Posted by: Barack Obama | June 4, 2008 10:34 PM
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Harried has been here since 2002!
He has a WaPo profile!

Posted by: harried | June 4, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Im so glad its over and now Obama can go after mcsame and its long overdue.Finally Hillary and Bill are out of his way.God Bless America.

Posted by: sharon | June 4, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Do you think it is a good idea to have that ghetto Michelle Obama and her little pickininis running around the White House and destroying valuable antiques?

Posted by: PeaPod | June 4, 2008 10:30 PM
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Obviously, you prefer McCain's dizzy 24 year-old "Columbia-educated" blond daughter and her blonde girl and boy friends comparing who, in the reception all, who has just bought the French's most exclusive gloves, handbags, and shoes?

LOL

Posted by: Her Lao | June 4, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

" ...her little pickininis running around the White House and destroying valuable antiques?"

Right. Worse than having the Clinton hillbillies STEALING those antiques.

Posted by: Chuckamok | June 4, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

ovwong you are correct. I have been sucked in a few times. A prime example is jd winterbottom and another is aspergirl. I am not sure about the latter.
If you are a pro-choice feminist you cannot help McCain. Don't forget that Obama never said anything remotely sexist. Sweetie is merely a term of affection and that is not worth seizing on- it has nothing to do with sexism or chauvinism. It is like calling a man "buddy". We are all democrats lets not fall for this trolling

Posted by: Bill Kane | June 4, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

News Flash: EVERYONE here is anonymous. You can type in whatever f#cking name you want. This board is a joke.

Posted by: Barack Obama | June 4, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Chris Fox - I agree that McCain's mouth might very well do him in. He has a penchant for saying incredibly stupid stuff. Like his "joke" as to why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly.

Or the bomb, bomb, bomb Iran thang.

Posted by: Chuckamok | June 4, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Lieberman is not gonna be there whispering in McCain's ear, when he confuses, again, Shiites with Sunis and Saddam with Ahmadinejad...

Obama's gonna smile and that's going to get McCain really, really angry and he's gonna scream, "Don't tell me who's whom! I am old enough to be your grandfather, I know them all!, even if I don't remember all names and groups and events since the early 1900's"!

That stumped Obama, like Lloyd Bentson said to Dan Quayle, "Mr. Quayle, I know Jack Kennedy; Jack's a friend of mine and you ain't no Jack Kennedy!" --- which left Dan Quayle blinking a few times, taking a few deep breath, not sure what how to respond!

Posted by: Her Lao | June 4, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

We must have a united Democratic Party to put an end finally to the crimes of the Bush family and the neocons. While I admire McCain's loyal service to America, his policies in the past few years have clearly changed to be close to those of Bush. He has flipflopped on the tax cut for the wealthy, which if made permanent will continue our nation's slide into debtor nation status. He would no longer even support the immigration bill that bears his name. McCain now wants Roe v. Wade overturned when once he did not. He panders to far right preachers when once he denounced some.

I support Obama because he wants to strengthen Social Security and Medicare. He wants insurance to cover the underinsured and uninsured, especially children. He wants to end he war in Iraq. He wants to end the welfare for the millionaires. He wants America to stand for democracy and greatness, as it did before Bush.

Posted by: Roger in Atlanta | June 4, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

"Clinton to Suspend Campaign"

It was either that or have it euthanized.

Posted by: Carmen Cameron | June 4, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

The NObama gutter rats can celebrate for a while, however, don't beg us Clinton supporters to come back to the camp; when in Nov your Mr Empty suit has lost NJ and PA, not to mention OH and FL, you can finally start wondering what happened.

I can't believe Hillary wants to be the VP. Why does she want it? Makes it so much more difficult to vote mCcAIN. But even so, I would still vote against NObama, even with Hill on the ticket. I wanted to see her as the Pres, not taking orders froma guy who is not qualified to get a middle management job in the private sector.

Posted by: intcamd1 | June 4, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse


Do you think it is a good idea to have that ghetto Michelle Obama and her little pickininis running around the White House and destroying valuable antiques?

Posted by: PeaPod | June 4, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

I wish all the pre-menstrual harpies on this thread wuld STFU and acknowledge reality.

The contest was about delegates, okay ? Got that through your thick heads ? DELEGATES !

Obama won the most pledged delegates, using the rules as declared AND AGREED TO by all contestants last year. The supers then confirmed the will of the people by adding their support to make sure that he made it over the line.

Obama won the most pledged delegates, he won the most super delegates, he won the most delegates.

He won, end of story.

Forget Michigan, forget Florida, forget the "popular vote", forget the "swing sates" forget all the hype, lies, machinations and spin that Wolfson, Ickys and Clinton managed to get you to believe.

Say it with me now - Obama won the most delegats and is therefor the Democratic nminee for President.

And somebody get these bleeding hearts a hanky . . .

Posted by: Rags | June 4, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

To the anonymous poster who responded to me and proclaims the "intolerance" of those who oppose Obama (while calling me a "silly old fool"- kinda funny from someone preaching "tolerance")-

Yes, there are racists but those are out-lyers. There are sexists, racists, people who are cruel to animals, and people with bad breath as well. They are on both sides of this. Nothing will convince them of anything, and they are not part of any reasonable debate. But when you shout "racist" at anyone who disagrees with you whether it is true or not, whether you have any basis for the statement or not, you cheapen your argument and you cheapen your candidate. You expose the intellectual poverty of his positions by showing that he can only be defended by insulting those who disagree.

Posted by: dyinglikeflies | June 4, 2008 10:28 PM | Report abuse

I hate you Iowatreasures can you live with that?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse


Truth Seeker

Posted by: giab | June 4, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

The Hillary-heads are totally ticked because Obama didn't "wait his turn", he figured out the rules of the Dem primary game, and beat the lumbering Clinton Machine on it's home turf.

I give him lots of points for sheer chutzpah. ;)

Posted by: Chuckamok | June 4, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

McCain actually thinks he can debate Obama in a real debate format.

Ouch!

McCain has the sound of a man who knows he's slipping and is compensating .. his repeated errors on who's-who in Iraq show that he's slipped pretty far. The war his signature issue and he doesn't even know that AQ is Sunni?!?

I want those debates very badly; all it will take is one non-softball question and McCain will lose the election in the five seconds that follow.

"earmarks!"

"the .. the bridge to nowhere ..."

And of course there is going to be the blowup.

Posted by: Chris Fox | June 4, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Obama-Webb '08,
because integrity,
patriotism, and
honor are never
old fashioned.

Posted by: Martin Edwin Andersen | June 4, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Saturday? Like everything else about her campaign, her sense of timing is still bad. She had an opportunity yesterday to give a gracious concession. Now she just looks greedy. She has cost herself her own legacy.

Posted by: Angry Liberaltarian | June 4, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Louis:

Thanks for the expanded thinking; good to know it is there, even if I still find flaws in your rationale.

If you vote for McCain, or stay home, what have you gained? What do you deliver to your country? How do you serve your own candidate, who, you must never forget, espouses the same political ideals as the presumptive nominee?

If you believe in what Hillary stands for, you have to recognize that she and Senator Obama have been incredibly close on most every important issue (stress the word "Important", because most of the vitriol has been over issues that will wind up being inconsequential in the governance of a nation).

This guy is good. I want to hear more substance from both sides, but to not ultimately give him your vote delivers the White House into the hands of the very people you really need to be afraid of.....more Republicans.


Posted by: Dave the voter | June 4, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

I would be EXTREMELY skeptical of anyone calling themselves "Clinton supporter" and posting here saying that they would not support Sen. Obama.

McBush has sent its small army of trolls with the purpose of trying to divide the party. They're scared of losing the White House and they should after watching McBush speech last night.

Posted by: ovwong | June 4, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Politics has again become what Bobby Kennedy liked to say it was--an honorable adventure--with Barack Obama at the head of the Democratic Party.

Posted by: martin edwin andersen | June 4, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

The Hillary Dead-enders really should vote for McSame -- he supports Hillary's War in Iraq, too! So sorry that your cult of personality is about to expire.

Please, keep talking about "flag pins" and "secret Muslims" and "whitey." The grown-ups are about to be put back in charge of your sick little frat-house. You cro-magnon hillbilly wingnuts are about to be put back under your rocks come November.

Posted by: jim | June 4, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

I think Hillary would be an ideal VP because if Obsama doesn't survive the term she will be President by default. I love democracy!

Posted by: Sandy | June 4, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

"The exodus from the Democratic Party has begun, it ceases to exist."

They'll probably increase their control of Congress in November. Not bad for a nonentity.

Posted by: Chuckamok | June 4, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

About an hour ago, on CNN, I saw the story that there was a crowd of 75,000 people at a free rock concert, not there for an Obama rally - he took advantage of the photo op for a photo op rally.

CNN just reported it - why would they do that if it wasn't true, Idahotreasures? You apparently think you know everything. You Obama people are control freaks - and your campaign is bunk - Obama talking about unity and hope while his surrogates use sharp elbow tactics to win.

Eighteen million people hate you and Obama, can you live with that? gw.

Posted by: Iowatreasures | June 4, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: giab
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Now you are telling me what I will be wanting and what I am thinking.

Psychic?

Stressed?

Posted by: Truth Seeker | June 4, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Iowatreasures,

You are a waste of money.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

See, she is dropping out just like everyone except for democratic 'Hillary Haters' thought. Classy move from a classy lady.

Posted by: DCDave | June 4, 2008 8:07 PM\

FORCED OUT to be more precise, by a Congressional delegation led by Charlie Rangel. From one New Yorker to another, Thanks Charlie!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Now WHO is the media going to have to kick around once HRC is gone? Well, I guess they can still continue to kick her as long as she is alive and breathing.

BTW, so many of these posts are so ignorant that it certainly is a testament to our wonderful educational system. Seems nobody can spell anymore!

Posted by: FactChecker1 | June 4, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

I think this has as much chance as Hannibal in Iceland!

Posted by: harried | June 4, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

"He is a hypocrit living in a $2 million dollar home in Chicago claiming to be for the little guy."

Yeah ... unlike Hillary, ey? ;)

Posted by: Chuckamok | June 4, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Over and over, every time somebody on these boards says they do not like Obama, the same cry comes back: "RACIST!".

Guess what- I hate the white part of him, OK? But seriously, you insult those who actually fought racism over the years by leveling the charge of racism meaninglessly and robotically every time you think it will score a cheap point. There is nothing racist in thinking that somebody who decided to run for the Presidency when he was only 2 years out of his state legislature was jumping the gun by a decade and is out of his depth.

Posted by: dyinglikeflies | June 4, 2008 10:10 PM
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No Dyinglikeflies you silly old fool. There are racist comments being spewed simply because of his black side. Take your head out of this election and put it back into reality. There are some people on this board who feel they have a God Given right to disrespect other people simply because they are different. They do not. They open themselves up to examination and persecution because they are trying to induce hate. It must be stamped out since this country will depend on all its citizens regardless of their race, gender, sexuality, class or whatever identity label you want to stick on them to come together and make our nation a much better place than we are in right now. The Primary is over Lady...the real world is still going on. Come join us

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

You fools OBAMA was selected NOT ELECTED.

The exodus from the Democratic Party has begun, it ceases to exist.

Posted by: bpower | June 4, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama cannot win in the General Election. Hillary and her surrogates and supporters couldn't tell the truth about Obama or they would be called racist or hurting the Democratic party.

The GOP won't have such restraints.

It will be clear by the election in November that Barack Obama's father was an Arab terrorist (The Kenyatta's), Obama, himself is half Arab, according to the Kenyan Government records (that is probably why Obama won't let his birth certificate be seen) -

The GOP will take note and make campaign advertisements about Obama and all of his negative terrorist, and anti-American and corrupt political Chicago Way associations.

Obama isn't home free by any means. He has sharp elbowed his way this far but that will be as far as he gets. Good thing Hillary is "suspending" her campaign and not quitting it. We will need her when the Obama s*** hits the fan in the General Election. gw.

Posted by: Iowatreasures | June 4, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

NO VOTE FOR BARRY HUSSEIN

How can anyone trust a man who would renounce his Muslim faith in order to appeal to middle America.


Posted by: Nadeem Zakaria | June 4, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

To Dave:

I am going to vote against Barrack Obama
because Barrack Obama is a bigot of the worst kind. He is a hypocrit living in a $2 million dollar home in Chicago claiming to be for the little guy.
Further, had any white preacher said what the Reverand Jeremiah Wright said, there would have been Hades to pay!
Had the pastor of Hillary Clinton's church or John McCain's church mocked black people and cursed them and made fun of Barrack Obama the way his ministers did, there would have been an uproar unlike anything that everyone would have ever seen. Chances are even, there might have been rioting.
Witness what happened to Don Imus. He makes a very thoughless and tasteless remark and is immeadiatetly thrown off the air. Chief amonst his critics is Al Sharpton, who is now under Federal Tax indictment for owning the government over $1 million dollars in back taxes. Further, this is not the first time that he has had tax problems.
Barrack Obama will have a hollow victory.
He will have been elected the Captain of the Titanic. He, and Teddy Kennedy, and Caroline Kennedy, will all ride the Titanic to defeat in November!
The Captain of the Titanic will lead the Democratic ship of state down to a horrific defeat in Novemeber.
If John Kerry couldn't do it because he couldn't capture certain major states, what does Barrack Obama think he's going to do?
The last time I checked, you need California, New York, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Ohio and so on to win the Presidency!
Barrack Obama is a loser and an arrogant spoiler.
Hillary ought to turn him down for VP and run as a third party candidate.
That would teach everyone who's really in charge!
You may vilify the Clinton's, but we had the greatest prosperity ever, including a budget surplus under them.
Barrack Obama will wind up as box office poison once he loses in November.
I really wouldn't bet money that he will win in the fall.
People are sick of the Republicans, yes, but they are not so fool hardy as to vote for a racial bigot like Barrack Obama.
I resent the anti-white rhetoric of his church and I know that deep down inside these bigots were his pals.

Posted by: Louis | June 4, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

iowatreasures: Try giving it a rest. That story was debunked right after it appeared several weeks ago. I guess you missed reading the truth while visiting your friends in the state of denial.

Posted by: Idahotreasures | June 4, 2008 10:07 PM
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Once on the internet always on the internet.

Sorry, wrong scandal.

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/obama-stands-accused-of-conduct-unbecoming-a-presidential-candidate/

http://mahalo.com/Obama_Flips_Off_Clinton


There you go....feel free to share these.

Posted by: Truth Seeker | June 4, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Politics has again become what Bobby Kennedy liked to say it was--an honorable adventure--with Barack Obama at the head of the Democratic Party.

Posted by: martin edwin andersen | June 4, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

To Iowatreasures : This is a blog, not a public toilet.

Posted by: ratl | June 4, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

See, she is dropping out just like everyone except for democratic 'Hillary Haters' thought. Classy move from a classy lady.

Posted by: DCDave | June 4, 2008 8:07 PM\

FORCED OUT to be more precise, by a Congressional delegation led by Charlie Rangel. From one New Yorker to another, Thanks Charlie!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Where is the "report this" function on this site? Is this just a free for all here? Let the third graders run rampant with their self-loathing and hatred, it seems.

Posted by: Where? | June 4, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Is staying on topic so difficult? Intelligent discussion of ideas anyone? It must be painful, or impossible, for some people. Must we all endure pointless name-calling and other 7th grade bile? No. They're easy to spot at first glance and are ignored. In other words you are wasting your time. Please stop cluttering up the page. Now, go back to your cave.

Take note from the WP:

"We encourage users to ANALYZE, comment on and even challenge washingtonpost.com's articles, blogs, reviews and multimedia features."

Posted by: John M Dooley | June 4, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

The only way Senator Obama and the Democrats lose in November is if he is foolish enough to allow Hillary on the ticket as VP. She needs to return to the Senate and represent the residents of New York while divorcing old Bill.

Then Hillary can begin a new life with her true love.

Posted by: Huma Huma | June 4, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

"Hillary is amazing. I admire her strength, good will and compassion for others."

She had no compassion for Elizabeth Ward Gracen, Sally Perdue, Gennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, Monica Lewinsky, and Juanita Broaddrick.

She led the attack squad that slimed ANY woman who dared to expose BubbaZipper's sexual predations.

Sisterhood thrown under the bus for venal political ambition.

Hillary-heads have their pumpkins stuck in the sand.

Thank god the Clinton felons are toast.

Posted by: Chuckamok | June 4, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

I think what everyone is forgetting in the heat of the moment is that if Obama did not carry some big states like PA and OH, it was against another Democrat!!

Between the two of them, the brought out so many new voters in the primary season; now, if those new people vote in November, and if Senator Clinton does the work she is supposed to do as a talented and popular Democrat, watch this party carry some of those key states.

That is not to say she should automatically be on the ticket, but she SHOULD work as a loyal Democrat to help deliver those people who were voting for, when all the dust settles, a Democrat.

I believe Senator McCain should be afraid, be very afraid of the Tsunami that he does not yet see.

Posted by: A voter abroad | June 4, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

iowatreasures: Try giving it a rest. That story was debunked right after it appeared several weeks ago. I guess you missed reading the truth while visiting your friends in the state of denial.

Posted by: Idahotreasures | June 4, 2008 10:07 PM
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Once on the internet always on the internet.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/978604,CST-NWS-sweet30.article

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-05-30-pfleger_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip


You'll be seeing this in the fall. Over and over and over.

Posted by: Truth Seeker | June 4, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

What a shame?!

Hilary might endorse Nobama. But my vote is for her, not any one she designates.

A vote for NObama is the same as agreeing with racist media pimps like COlby and Robinson, fat pig scumbags such as Rich, and bitter spinster Medusas like Dowd.

Could you Clinton supporters be in the same tent populated by the Nobaba drooling gutter groupie rats? I know I can't.

McCain or write in Hillary, it shall be. 2012, here we come.

Posted by: intcamd1 | June 4, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse


Truth Seeker

you are a sore looser

because if hillary had won you would have expected the all democratic party to bring her in triumph to the white house
and you would have expected all the democrats to put aside their personal ambition and push for her candidacy

that is why you are a sore lose

Posted by: giab | June 4, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Romney also suspends his campaign, but soon after Super Tuesday.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

All right all ready! Enough with the Doggy poo stuff!
I just think this has as much chance as Hannibal in Iceland!

Posted by: harried | June 4, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

About an hour ago, on CNN, I saw the story that there was a crowd of 75,000 people at a free rock concert, not there for an Obama rally - he took advantage of the photo op for a photo op rally.

CNN just reported it - why would they do that if it wasn't true, Idahotreasures? You apparently think you know everything. You Obama people are control freaks - and your campaign is bunk - Obama talking about unity and hope while his surrogates use sharp elbow tactics to win.

Eighteen million people hate you and Obama, can you live with that? gw.

Posted by: Iowatreasures | June 4, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

you are a sore loser

Posted by: giab
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Lowest form of behavior, name calling.

secondly, I acknowledged that Obama won.

What is ailing you?

That I want Hillary out of all that anger and psycodrama?

She is a supremely talented woman and doesn't need to be scapegoated to cover anyone else's mistakes. If he wins fine and if not fine also, he stands on his own.

I think you are a sore winner..

Posted by: Truth Seeker | June 4, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

The postings to this site include many racist, sexist and offensive commments and personal attacks--and this isn't the first time (see posts by Harried). Yet the Washington Post's rules say that such content will be removed. Is anyone with the Post really monitoring content to make sure it complies with your own supposed rules and enforcing some standards of decency?

You may not post content that degrades others on the basis of gender, race, class, ethnicity, national origin, religion, sexual preference, disability or other classification. Epithets and other language intended to intimidate or to incite violence will not be tolerated

Posted by: Bob Doherty | June 4, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Over and over, every time somebody on these boards says they do not like Obama, the same cry comes back: "RACIST!".

Guess what- I hate the white part of him, OK? But seriously, you insult those who actually fought racism over the years by leveling the charge of racism meaninglessly and robotically every time you think it will score a cheap point. There is nothing racist in thinking that somebody who decided to run for the Presidency when he was only 2 years out of his state legislature was jumping the gun by a decade and is out of his depth.

Posted by: dyinglikeflies | June 4, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Why oh why did Hillary lose? Actually two words: Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: McCain Man | June 4, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

"Don't stir McCain up he might blow a gasget"

Everybody's fixated on gasgetting these days. At four bucks plus a gallon, it's no wonder!

Posted by: Chuckamok | June 4, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

WRITE HILLARY IN>>DO NOT VOTE FOR MORE THE SAME MCAIN AND THE WAR THAT IS DESTROYING US>>>DO NOT VOTE FOR ILLASSOCIATED INEXPERIENCED BIG BSer OBAMA!! WRITE IN HILLARY CLINTON!! SHE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS THE PROVEN RECORD OF MAKING A POSITIVE DIFFERENCE IN THIS COUNTRY! the rest are full of bs...HILLARY 2008

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Great post - whoever said, Obama is snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory. I tried to say this before but somehow WP doesn't like my comments and they don't get printed. gw.

Posted by: Iowatreasures | June 4, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Hillary is amazing. I admire her strength, good will and compassion for others. One of the saddest results of this campaign is the racial tension against the Clintons manufactured by the media, and yes, the Obama campaign. Their decades of work for civil rights, completely erased by the twisting of words and intent. The African American community needs to take a hard look at how they have been manipulated into believing this hatred. Much fence-mending is needed now.

Posted by: Monique from NC | June 4, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

iowatreasures: Try giving it a rest. That story was debunked right after it appeared several weeks ago. I guess you missed reading the truth while visiting your friends in the state of denial.

Posted by: Idahotreasures | June 4, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Democratic Woman
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McCain didn't flip off Hillary TWICE, Obama did.

That's why.

Posted by: Truth Seeker | June 4, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

The fact of the matter is, Hillary Clinton will be the stronger candidate against John McCain. John McCain has to be thrilled to have been handed a presidential victory dropped right into his lap!
All the Barrack Obama supporters can't see the forest for the trees. Unless Barrack Obama puts Hillary Clinton on the ticket, he will lose this fall.
He can't carry any of the major states so what does that leave him? Sure, he can give a great speach and he finessed the nomination out from under Hillary's nose, but that isn't going to cut it in the general election this fall.
The white middle class voters don't trust this prodigy of the Reverend Jeremiah Johnson and that awful Catholic Priest who had the gall to behave the way he did from the pulpit.
I'm going to vote for McCain, knowing full well that Hillary would have done a better job, because I am not going to take the chance of electing Barrack Obama and furthering his anti-white agenda.
My ancestors weren't even in this country 100 years ago, and I'm going to be darned if I have to take the blame for slavery and all that went with it, when my people weren't even here.

Posted by: Louis | June 4, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse


Truth Seeker

this was a primary

not an election between two parties

you are a sore loser

Posted by: giab | June 4, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

To Louis:

As I read your comments, I take it you are going to vote against Senator Obama this fall because, and ONLY because he is black.

You, Louis, are the real danger to America.

Posted by: Dave the voter. | June 4, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

"Don't stir McCain up he might blow a gasget"

Everybody's fixated on gasgetting these days. At four bucks plus a gallon, it's no wonder!

Posted by: Chuckamok | June 4, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Louis - loved your post. Obama snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. (in the General Election) - Best line I heard all this campaign season. Great post. gw.

Posted by: Iowatreasures | June 4, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Louis - loved your post. Obama snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. (in the General Election) - Best line I heard all this campaign season. Great post. gw.

Posted by: Iowatreasures | June 4, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Louis - loved your post. Obama snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. (in the General Election) - Best line I heard all this campaign season. Great post. gw.

Posted by: Iowatreasures | June 4, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA got the votes when no one knew him and when they found him out and his long list of associations..wow we saw the primaries fall to Hillary.BIG TIME..and she kept winning by bigger and bigger margins..but the stupid DNC helps Obama and sways the election ..steal Hillarys votes ....DNC YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE WITHOUT HILLARY>>I HOPE TO GOD SHE GOES INDEPENDENT>>AND YOU WILL BE LEFT WITH SPOILED MILK OBAMA!!HILLARY GO INDEPENDENT! HILLARY 2008!

Posted by: Kath | June 4, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Louis - loved your post. Obama snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. (in the General Election) - Best line I heard all this campaign season. Great post. gw.

Posted by: Iowatreasures | June 4, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA got the votes when no one knew him and when they found him out and his long list of associations..wow we saw the primaries fall to Hillary.BIG TIME..and she kept winning by bigger and bigger margins..but the stupid DNC helps Obama and sways the election ..steal Hillarys votes ....DNC YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE WITHOUT HILLARY>>I HOPE TO GOD SHE GOES INDEPENDENT>>AND YOU WILL BE LEFT WITH SPOILED MILK OBAMA!!HILLARY GO INDEPENDENT! HILLARY 2008!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Louis - loved your post. Obama snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. (in the General Election) - Best line I heard all this campaign season. Great post. gw.

Posted by: Iowatreasures | June 4, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

To Louis:

As I read your comments, I take it you are going to vote against Senator Obama this fall because, and ONLY because he is black.

You, Louis, are the real danger to America.

Posted by: Dave the voter. | June 4, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

I have a really hard time with all of the women who say they will not vote for Obama and will vote for McCain. Having looking at John McCain's beliefs and policy statements, he is anti-choice, does not support punblic schools or teachers in any meaningful way, and has no real plan for universal health care. And that does not even go into his lack of depth on economic issues. As a mother, I am stunned by what I see as out of touch views. As a woman, I am scared to death that a man who claims to believe in the inherent abilities the American people doesn't trust me with my own body. I am asking all of the women who are Clinton supporters to realy look at John McCain's policies before you commit to vote for him in November. Many of you worked very hard for Women's Rights. John McCain would set us back 50 years. Please don't allow anger and disappointment to cloud your judgement.

Posted by: CA Democratic Woman | June 4, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

He will become anathema to the Democratic Party. He will go down in history as the only candidate who snatched defeat from the jaws of victory!
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You're obviously not and never were a Democrat, or you'd know better. ;-)

Posted by: treetopflyer | June 4, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Some aholes claim "WHITE" and some aholes clam "BLACK",,, but I've never seen black nor white in 70 years!
It's all noise, and the "WHITE" guys get to call it "WHITE NOISE"!
So "WHITE" is everything, and "BLACK" is nothing? How does that work?

Posted by: harried | June 4, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Rock,

Obama didn't get the magic number of pledged delegates, so yes, he was selected by his masters to be: The Uperdelegates!

Posted by: 2 plus 2 | June 4, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Dennis Miller was great tonight- he insists that Obama would qualify as CLINICALLY INSANE if he let the Clinton snakes into the White House.

Michelle supposedly has veto power over that decision.

Lets all pray to the gods of our choice that she does.

;)

Posted by: Chuckamok | June 4, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

I heard on cable tonight that the big 75,000 people rally for Obama was a lie.

And, I thought it was. Those 75,000 people that were there for the "Obama rally" were actually 75,000 people at a free concert for a popular band up there - nothing to do with Obama.

He just took advantage of the crowd for a photo op rally. Just like Obama. He is such a liar, a cheat, deceitful, an Arab, a friend of anti-Americans, terrorists, husband of Michelle who is angry, immature and a "whitey" hater - you name it.

Just exactly what we need after 8 years of Bush. gw.

Posted by: Iowatreasures | June 4, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

suspension and not concession is the correct selection. the party must remember she has half of the delegates and a loyal following and she should be allowed to take them to denver where she can wage a delegate challenge or at least exercise a great deal of influence over the party platform. she can still make a valuable contribution to the party in the ensuing two months if she does not concede. this site www.straightrecord.com/convention sounds a bit far-fetched to me, but it would be a good use of here candidacy from this point on.

Posted by: rapswork | June 4, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Well, it's finally over. But, I have to say this to everyone, I fully intend to vote for McCain and by the time election 2008 is over with, Barrack Obama won't be able to be elected dog catcher!
He will become anathema to the Democratic Party. He will go down in history as the only candidate who snatched defeat from the jaws of victory!
Had he been really smart, Obama would have been Hillary's VP for eight years. Then after that, he would have been a shoe in for President.
Now, the white middle class voters, better known as the "silent Majority" are not going to elect him.
Egg heads and African Americans are not going to determine the next president, the silent majority will!
Obama has yet to carry a major state such as New York and California. And, while carrying a bunch of little states may get him the nomination, his inability to carry the major swing states is going to cost him and Democratic Party a major victory in the fall.
It's going to be a crushing defeat for the Democrats.

Posted by: Louis | June 4, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Well Rezko who backed financially Obama in his campaign..was charged on quit a number of charges.today..Here is the change Obama is going to bring...as here is what Obama said in his book: If the winds of Politics turn ugly I will stand with the muslims!!! AMERICA BE AFRAID BE VERY AFRAID!! THE CHOICES FOR AMERICA ARE HORRIBLE Barack Hussein Obama or more the same McCain????!!! GO TO HILLARY CLINTON.COM AND SIGN PETITION FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF HILLARY!!...HILLARY 2008!! THE ONLY CHOICE!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait until November.

Obama is SO finished.

MCCAIN 08 -
Let's do it!!!!!

Posted by: Concerned
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Not sure if you really supported Clinton at all, but if you did and you're actually voting for McLame, you do know what she's going to call when she's stumping for Barack, don't you?

An idiot.

Posted by: treetopflyer | June 4, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

So interesting that the media STILL can't let go of Hillary.

I mean HE won didn't he? Why are they STILL obsessed with Hillary?

What will she do? What does she want?

Why didn't she say this or that?

Why did she say this and not that?

Blah, blah, blah......

You get the feeling he isn't nearly as interesting as she is.

And you also get the feeling that they still need to judge Obama and evaluate him based on HER actions.

I am glad Hillary stiffed him yesterday. And I am equally glad that Caroline Kennedy will not pick Hillary.

Obama needs to stand on his own without ANYBODY to blame or scapegoat.

Good Luck....

Posted by: Truth Seeker | June 4, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Headlines should read:

"BLACK MALE FOR PRESIDENT OR BLACKMAIL FOR VICE PRESIDENT?"

Posted by: CRE8SENSE | June 4, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

"Sen Clinton was sabotaged by the DNC and the superdelegates of a corrupt, rigged Democratic Party"

How in hell's name you arrived at that!

Obama won most of the pledged Delegates. THAT WAS THE RACE. Had the superdelegates done what you sugested THEN the system would have been corrpted

Posted by: Rock | June 4, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Don't stir McCain up he might blow a gasget

Posted by: assisted living | June 4, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Hilary's was a flawed campaign. Obama's was not perfect. But Dems really need to think about NOT staying home in November if they want the change Hilary promised. Because when all the filters are applied, and all the sand is sifted, the two candidates for the nomination are incredibly close on the major, vital issues that make up governance of a nation.

Hilary supporters would be well-advised to pay close attention to how Senator Obama's major issues parallel Senator Clinton's.

Dems who stay home or worse, vote for Senator McCain in November will do the nation a far greater disservice than any they have accused candiates of in this interminable primary season. Senator Obama needs to apply more shades of grey to the stark outline of hope he draws for America, but I kinda think that when he does, it will keep looking more like an America we all want -- that golden America of once-upon-a-time.

We won't get all the way there in the first 4 years, but as any parent knows, the first footsteps are sometimes the biggest.

Posted by: Dave the voter | June 4, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Hey Joe,

Don't get cute with me!
If I have anything left, It's my way with the Word!
Stick around long enough and maybe you'll get "EDUCATED"!
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harried the mouse wants to play with the cats. Sounds like fun. :-)

*flick* Back to you, Joe.

Folds forepaws under chest, settles into a comfortable position and twitches tail in happy anticipation of the squealing. ;-)

Posted by: treetopflyer | June 4, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

when you say "DOG DRIPPINGS" do you refer to number 1 or number 2?
or just drool?
Posted by: Fairried | June 4, 2008 9:41 PM
______________________

Dripping is what Yo Mamma did! Drooling was your behind lickin Daddy did!

BOW WOW!!!

Posted by: harried | June 4, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait until November.

Obama is SO finished.

MCCAIN 08 -
Let's do it!!!!!

Posted by: Concerned | June 4, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

McCain still has to stay health for five more months and thats not easy at his age

Posted by: agist | June 4, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

No matter what Obama does, he should know this:

Having BILLARY Clinton as vice president would be the equivalent of having a spitting Cobra as a room mate. You CANNOT control its NATURAL HABIT of spitting and biting. Either way, you get POISON in your blood circulatory system!

Posted by: KYJurisDoctor | June 4, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

I think there is an option to vote in November: ignore McC and BHO and to write-in HRC.

Posted by: think1 | June 4, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Sayonara, Hillary. Go cross some other threshold to be egomaniac in chief.

Posted by: Tom | June 4, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Why was Jimmy Carter suspiciously absent from the Democratic selection process?

By any standards, this process and the role played by the media and the superdelegates would fit perfectly well in any Banana Republic!

After Bush, anything goes and America is taking the fast lane to become a second class country with a rookie chauffer who wouldn't be allowed to drive Mrs. Daisy!

Posted by: Cantinflas | June 4, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Imagine this vision of 2009 to 2012.
Welcome to Dysfunction Junction. Because of a schism in the Democratic Party caused by the relentless ambition of one woman, John McCain has become President of the United States. Daily life for average Americans continues on just as it has. Arcane 20th century politics drives both the Presidency and the Congress. The thin Democratic majority is mostly unable to advance beyond the veto pen, and when it does, its initiatives are eviscerated with compromises, rendering them unrecognizable and ineffective. Millions of families are struggling, retiring baby boomers, single mothers, the growing masses of the working poor of all races, their hopes are dashed as they plod under the triple yoke of high transportation costs, skyrocketing health care costs, and a general economy that is crippled by soaring war deficits and a dwindling dollar. Science and innovation continue to be stifled by religious ideology and ideologues on the Supreme Court. The casualty reports continue to pour in as the insurgency against the American occupation of Iraq grows. The children of the boomers, disgruntled and feeling disenfranchised by the petty politics leading to this situation are suffering as well, both Generation X and Generation Y. Their economic hopes continue to be dashed as pieces of the American economy, American jobs and American wealth, bleed away, maybe forever, into the realignment of the 21st century global economy. They wonder how their parents and grandparents, despite all their advantages, failed to see it coming, or worse, failed to overcome their rancor and address it. The frustration grows and the anger gets expressed though xenophobia, racism, and countless other dysfunctional ways. The election of 2012 is on the horizon, and the same political parties are driven by the same political ambitions, and candidates. Not much of a vision, more of a nightmare isn't it?

End the Bush Nightmare--Defeat McCain

Posted by: Neo1153 | June 4, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse


Grandma Dee

why are you so upset ?
what s wrong with obama policy for you ?
he won
he has been a brave man, facing hints to his death for more then a year now,
raising above his conditions
fighting hard to become what he is today
a year ago the media was trumpeting clinton as the only possible nominee,
then the people had a different choice
he showed the same gut that hillary did
in facing adversities and prevailed

you may find him not of your taste,
but what s wrong with his victory ?
what s wrong with his policy for you ?

Posted by: giab | June 4, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

so, anybody know what happened to Sox?

Posted by: jakeD's shadow | June 4, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

RON PAUL DON't CAVE IN

GO TO THE CONVENTION

Posted by: GOLD STANDARD | June 4, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

i think there's plenty of blame to go around to both candidates (and especially their surrogates) in terms of keeping the negativity going in the last few months....it's quite sad that discussions like this always get so ugly. people need to just take this stuff for what it is, though.
it really comes down to the issues. if you care about Democratic/progressive positions and want your life to improve, it's crazy to even consider voting for McCain and nobody with any sense will. we all need to admit that we've played a role in this, both campaigns, both sides' supporters, etc....and let's just move on. together. call me an optimist, but i think it's possible.

Posted by: hopeful | June 4, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | June 4, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Harried,
You seem like a racist, ignorant troll who can't spell or punctuate or capitalize. Would you agree with this statement?
Posted by: Joe | June 4, 2008 9:28 PM
___________________________________

Hey Joe! Yo MOMMA take's it , unlubbed, up the butt tube!!

My punctuation OK here? DOG DROPPINGS?


No. Your punctuation is incorrect again. And you tried so hard.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Why do supporters of any candidate have to be told what to do after the primary?

Why can't people decide what to do on their own?

Our public education needs to work more on critical thinking.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Crat3, that is a foolish and destructive position. Show more class.

Posted by: Neo1153 | June 4, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Hey Joe,

Don't get cute with me!
If I have anything left, It's my way with the Word!
Stick around long enough and maybe you'll get "EDUCATED"!

Posted by: harried | June 4, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

I can sum up the reason for Clinton's defeat in 2 words - Terry McCauliffe. As soon as I saw his name connected with Clinton's I knew she was going to lose. The man has been poison for every candidate and party he's worked for. Please, oh please, McCain, hire him for your fall campaign.

Posted by: treetopflyer | June 4, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

To harried:

Comments like the one you posted does not belong on an intelligent political (or any other) forum. You are obviously lost. This is not the Aryan Nation forum. Pack up your racist remarks and take them someplace where your brand of hatred is welcome - it isn't here. BTW, if Obama wins the presidency you'll probably be one of the first to seek an advantage from it. Shame that in the 21st century we still have morons like you among an enlightened people.

Posted by: sboyd18 | June 4, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Lost Tribe Of Hillary Holdouts Found

- BREAKING NEWS -

The first contact in several years with remnants of a holdout band of Hillary Clinton supporters took place yesterday, with a helicopter flyover identifying the handful of survivors. Unwilling to concede that the 2008 Democratic presidential primary had been fairly conducted, the hardy but dwindling tribe became increasingly isolated during the Obama/Leahy administrations, eschewing television and rumored to be surviving only on moss, pant suit juice and the occasional squirrel.

Following the merger of the Republican and Democratic Parties and repeal of the 22nd Amendment in 2015 which allowed Beloved Leader Obama's election to a third term by an unprecedented Electoral College vote of 538 - 0, the tribe disappeared and has not been heard from for several years. Until this sighting, the continued existence of the "Hillarians" was doubted and their story had passed into the realm of urban legend.

Posted by: Pubichaironmycokecan | June 4, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

HRC needs to show her class, so does Barack. Defeat McCain and the Bush war machine. Let's keep my stepson from going back to Iraq for a third time. Bring the troops home. Secure ourselves at home. Renew our friendships abroad.

Posted by: Neo1153 | June 4, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Sen Clinton was sabotaged by the DNC and the superdelegates of a corrupt, rigged Democratic Party.

The superdelegates failed in their responsibility to endorse Sen Clinton as the best qualified and the strongest candidate to win the general election in a landslide victory hands down.

In repudiation of the DNC and the superdelegates, Hillary Clinton supporters should work for the resounding defeat of Obama and vote for McCain. I will vote for McCain in a swing state.

It is delusional to think that Sen. Clinton's conceding or over time can "unify" the corrupt, rigged Democratic Party.

Posted by: crat3 | June 4, 2008 9:01 PM
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It will be a sad day on Saturday. Senator Clinton ran a great campaign and connected with 18 million people from all walks of life. Yes the idiot Mark Penn made strategic mistake early on that cost her the nomination in the end. There is no doubt she is a better leader and stronger candidate.

Senator Clinton has been gracious and she will work her heart out for the party that doesn't deserve it. But many of her supporters are just regular people working hard to pay their bills. We are not partisans and we couldn't care less about what the party establishments demand.

I will vote for McCain in VA and so long to "this" Democratic Party.

Posted by: jsindc | June 4, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

As a 60 year old professional woman, I am so unhappy with Washington, again, as usual.

I am convinced that Americans' voices continue to not be heard.

Voting is a thing of the past with me now. Nothing I say matters, my retirement does not matter, social security does not matter, medical is a joke.

From now on, I will not listen to any of the one sided media shows, or trust the government to do anything that has to do with senior citizens.

This has been the hardest year of life watching a talented woman be beaten up by the press and other fat cats in Washington.

All I can say is I am glad she has hung in there and not given in and let the nation try to voice their opinions, although it does no good.

Thanks for trying for us Hillary. God speed.

My ending phrase has changed to:

When will God bless America again?

Posted by: Grandma Dee | June 4, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

The ONLY thing that Obama has changed is his 20 YEAR RACIST CHURCH so he can try and get elected on "unity." He will say or do anything! WHAT A JOKE!

HE will NEVER be elected. And he should not be! I CRINGE every time he ends his speeches with "God Bless America."

Posted by: EXDEM | June 4, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

when you say "DOG DRIPPINGS" do you refer to number 1 or number 2?

or just drool?

Posted by: Fairried | June 4, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Finally, the end to a graceless, disgusting, dishonest, race-baiting campaign. This nation needs to say 'goodbye' to the Clinton's and hope they are gone forever. This campaign was 'over' two months ago yet the media indulged Mrs. Clinton her coast-to-coast ego trip. Finally, it's mercifully over.

Posted by: Pelhsm1861, Lookout Mtn., TN. | June 4, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

When anybody feels entitled to the presidency, it's hard for him or her to respect the voters.

We learn it in kindergarten.
If you want to be respected, you have to respect others.

Being lied to so many times, I don't find the Clintons to be respectful of anybody. The primary is finally over. It doesn't matter what she or we say any more.

Let's move on to the important issues to our nation. It's just nice not having to hear about the Clintons for a very long time. Who would have guessed the two world class geniuses miscalculated the American voters? We aren't that stupid after all.

Well, common sense rules, that is: People hate to be lied to. Let's keep it simple and focused on just important issues in the future.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

what is unlubbed?

The tub?

Posted by: Scarried | June 4, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

I not an Obamaniac, nor a HRC cheerleader, just want the Dems to win begin the arduous task of cleaning up the Nightmare on Pennsylvania Avenue.

Posted by: Neo1153 | June 4, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Entitlement? Entitled to what? Her support? No, I suppose she can tell her supporters to vote for McCain, but that would be suicide within the party. I am just saying that between HRC and Bill, they managed to take a "sure thing" campaign and end up losing. The only role I see for HRC during the general election is as a lightening rod for criticism at the Dems. Believe me, I am not Obama-ite...but I am not going to vote for McCain and I wasn't going to vote for a woman who failed my home state for the last 8 years in the Senate. Heres to the "none of the above" vote getting on the ballot and instant runoff voting!

Posted by: Burt Reynolds | June 4, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

McCain is Insane.

That's Obvious.

Posted by: Carol Rumberg | June 4, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Harried,
You seem like a racist, ignorant troll who can't spell or punctuate or capitalize. Would you agree with this statement?
Posted by: Joe | June 4, 2008 9:28 PM
___________________________________

Hey Joe! Yo MOMMA take's it , unlubbed, up the butt tube!!

My punctuation OK here? DOG DROPPINGS?

Posted by: harried | June 4, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse


Bye Bye Obama, Hello McCain!

Posted by: Eduardo Perez-Sandoval-Gutierrez-Chupa-Verga | June 4, 2008 9:34 PM


ahahahahhahaha
any real Hispanic that would vote for mc whity ?

anyone ?

Posted by: stereotypes spam | June 4, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

B.A.C. wrote; "Exactly what is Obama going to change???
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First executive order of the Obama White House -

"In light of the recent focus nationwide on the dangers to people with severe, sometimes fatal, allergies of coming in contact with peanuts, walnuts, almonds and the like, all persons working in, having access to or otherwise involved in the coming and going of anyone within the White House, whether they are employed there or not are hereby advised that there will be

NO NUTS IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!"

How's that for starters? ;-)

Posted by: treetopflyer | June 4, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Watch out, Obama!

McStain has been practicing his fake smile, along with trying to quiet his repeated "loud, quick inhales" when he speaks.

He's polishing up!

I hear he's going to start coordinating his words and his hand pumps, too.

Quite a force to be reckoned with.

Posted by: McCain is McOld and McAngry | June 4, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Saturday I will take anybody's bet that she makes it all about her and does not even admit she lost. if she lies again about having more votes I will puke in my mouth. Ok now for the next steps

Fellow Obamanots relax the stake was driven through her candidacy June 3rd and that is a solid four days before David Plouffe predicted when I met with him at an event in Miami two months ago.

Hillary displayed her delusional narcissism to the maximum with her lack of grace. She is incapable of admitting a mistake or defeat. She cannot admit the mistake of voting to authorize the war in Iraq or that she was soundly defeated by Barack Obama who deployed superior strategy and stayed on the high road.

Stay focused on the big prize and get ready to rumble with John Mc War and his hit men. They will be coming at us with all sorts of other lies to make us fear Barack Obama being our President.

You know what to expect:
Barack is too young
Barack is a Muslim
Barack will surrender to terrorists
We wont be safe America
Life begins at inception
We know the economy better than Barack
he will talk to bad guys

Blah Blah Blah. they will put up as many boogeymen as Hillary put up lies.

Barack Obama scares the hell out of the status quo because it is their power that will be usurped and ours as the people will be restored. Thank god he has assembled he best political campaign team in the history of our country. Plouffe, Axelrod and the 1.7 million of us out there pounding the pavement and making the calls for change are unstoppable. Rest you won the first battle against the biggest name in politics and we will need the energy between now and November.

God Bless you and God bless the United States of America the only country where all this could happen. We are truly the people we have been waiting for.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Hey Obama supporters - When does the unity start? Looks like from your comments here you're still trying to bully people. Oh that's right, you don't need Clinton's supporters to win the election because you think it's a coronation. Good luck!

Posted by: Dan | June 4, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

And this is the kind of judgment she would show at 3 am?

Posted by: Neoo1153 | June 4, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Great, except it's going to be hard to undo the damage wrought by the die-hard Clinton supporters, who at the end of the day may have simply assisted in electing McCbush.

As they say, beware of unintended consequences. An own goal - Bush-Cheney-Rove couldn't have done it better.

Thanks a heap.

F.

Posted by: froggie | June 4, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Bye Bye Obama, Hello McCain!

Posted by: Eduardo Perez-Sandoval-Gutierrez-Chupa-Verga | June 4, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

The idiotic Obamaphiles think they can get anything from their bi$ch. Shi$$t heads....

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

She's going to "suspend" her campaign? In hopes of what?

Posted by: Skeptikos | June 4, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

"Besides, taking a top cabinet position and helping bring Health Care to Americans is nothing to sneeze at!"

She already had a chance at this and failed. Shes also failed to deliver a Senator for NY. Is there anything she actually accomplished besides botching a presidential campaign and marrying Bill?

Posted by: Burt Reynolds | June 4, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Burt: there you go with your entitlements again. "Hopefully Hillary and Bill will choose to help Obama and tell their supporters to support him and then fade behind the curtain". What chutzpah.

Why the heck should they lift a finger to help jerks like you. I love it. They should whip their supporters in line and then "fade behind the curtain". Personally I hope they don't lift a finger to help your campaign, you would deserve that after your rude comments, but HC is too classy and will do a 100% more than any of her supporters to help you across the finish line so folks like you can then turn around and spew your venom against her. I for one won't lift a finger or give your campaign one dime as will the large majority of her supporters.
Wonder Why?

Posted by: Leichtman | June 4, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

You all are making the assumption that Oh Bum A gets elected...Billary ain't getin jack!

Posted by: Hill No! | June 4, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

She's delusional, why hasn't she already conceded?! It not only strange but embarrassing. GET HER AND BILL OUT OF OUR PUBLIC LIFE. As a VP she would be a disaster acting as a virtual POTUS.

Posted by: Big Jo | June 4, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

I actually feel bad for Hillary, but not TOO bad. She's a great asset, actually better than Bill, to the Democratic Party.

They could use her in the "Bad Cop" role... She seems perfectly suited to that.

She doesn't have to disappear, just step aside a bit.

I would have been all for her being the VP if she hadn't ignored Obama's victory yesterday.

I think the emotions were too great to pop the balloon on her supporters.

I forgive her for that, as long as she gets behind the party Soon.

As for Bill "I'm Red for No Good REason" Clinton, they need to hide him and make sure nobody asks him any questions... He goes nuts every time.

Posted by: Thinker_ | June 4, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Harried,
You seem like a racist, ignorant troll who can't spell or punctuate or capitalize. Would you agree with this statement?

Posted by: Joe | June 4, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Ignore trolls (a/k/a Harried).

Do not feed trolls (a/k/a Harried).

Posted by: Mark | June 4, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

The Democratic primaries were unique to say the least. Having a woman and an African American as the "final two" has, I think, brought this country respect overseas that we have been missing for some years now.

Clinton's speech last night was just as unique. Instead of the traditional concession speech everyone was expecting she actually talked about the achievements of her campaign - focusing on the opportunities a woman has today, just as Obama put some of his focus on the opportunities an African American has today. I believe that it was an outstanding speech and that it addressed important issues. There is plenty of time for Clinton and her staff & volunteers to relax a bit this week, savor the achievements they have made and then join forces with Obama.

Posted by: Ken | June 4, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Thank God she's going. I can no longer stomach her whining, lying, prevaricating and mean-spirited campaign decisions. It's been like the Lewinsky-Impeachment days all over again. I hope the media gurus are right, i.e., she won't be the VP choice.

She couldn't effectively run her own campaign, and is trying to extract the hard earned money of working people to pay her $20 Million debt. She still owes Oregon public schools more than $40,000 see from campaign visits. Maybe she only pays lip service to the working class and tries to extract more money from their barely adequate their good will? Gee, if she paid it herself, the Clintons would only have $90 million left from last year's income.

MLK was prophetic in more than one way. Free at last! Free at last.

Posted by: Working Old White Woman | June 4, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

That's a good photo to include, them enjoying a laugh back before the presidential campaign made them rivals. I remember in late 2007 up till early January even they were saying the Democratic race was too polite compared to the Republican one - at least before South Carolina. If it was over on Super Tuesday this would have been long cleaned up, but it had it's benefit in that each of the nominees had to visit every state and make their case.

Politics makes for strange bedfellows, but also for unfortunate enemies if it gets personal. But when the internal politics are done, rival sides can unite. As an Obama supporter I was rather ticked a few times during the campaign at some of the tactics - especially the Michigan math, but that is politics I suppose, which is sometimes effective but rarely pretty.

Now it's time to look ahead, and we have yet to see what those two will be like when they are on the same side. Hopefully it will look more like that picture.

Posted by: Grimmix | June 4, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Lucy,
After reading the comments,I find there are a mixture of supporters on this blog. According to your comment we can assume your vote is not for Obama but please at least have the common courtesy to know your facts before you post an accusation/statement like that. Don't be a dirty politician.

Posted by: mgm | June 4, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Still pretty weary that she will only be tepid in campaigning for Senator Obama. But Senator Clinton should understand that VP is out of the question given all her baggage, including her finger waving husband. Besides, taking a top cabinet position and helping bring Health Care to Americans is nothing to sneeze at! And there are many other positions other than VP that will have equal if not greater influence on public policy. And the fact that Nancy Pelosi is already Speaker of the House is clearly a huge step forward for women everywhere! The way I see it, not getting on the ticket is still a win win situation - anyone suggesting otherwise is talking out of their A$$.

Posted by: woody | June 4, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

HRC (and Bill):

PLEASE don't let the doorknob hit you on the way out...

Posted by: Mark | June 4, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Lost Tribe Of Hillary Holdouts Found

- BREAKING NEWS -

The first contact in several years with remnants of a holdout band of Hillary Clinton supporters took place yesterday, with a helicopter flyover identifying the handful of survivors. Unwilling to concede that the 2008 Democratic presidential primary had been fairly conducted, the hardy but dwindling tribe became increasingly isolated during the Obama/Leahy administrations, eschewing television and rumored to be surviving only on moss, pant suit juice and the occasional squirrel.

Following the merger of the Republican and Democratic Parties and repeal of the 22nd Amendment in 2015 which allowed Beloved Leader Obama's election to a third term by an unprecedented Electoral College vote of 538 - 0, the tribe disappeared and has not been heard from for several years. Until this sighting, the continued existence of the "Hillarians" was doubted and their story had passed into the realm of urban legend.

Posted by: pubichaironmycokecan | June 4, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

OK, I take back what I said about her, in that case.

I guess she just couldn't face all her supporters and tell them "Thanks a lot. See ya later."

I understand that.

Of course, I kept saying she's not going to have the guts to tell them it's over, but, whatever, nobody's perfect.

Hopefully, she and her supporters can help be a force for Good, try to steer Obama's positions to where they believe is better, and get on with the task of Thumping McOld.

Posted by: Thinker_ | June 4, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Harried -

I get the distinct impression that Mr. Obama might be a tad bit smarter than you are.

I'd also bet on him beating you in the guts and integrity departments too.

In short, you sound like a depressing piece of white trash.

Posted by: Brent Mack | June 4, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

I agree with crat3 how rigged the DNC system was to illiminate the strongest candidate.Gen X and Gen Y who overwhelmed the unrepresentative and flawed caucus sytem are now firmly in control of the DNC. Good luck with that in Nov.

What is simply amazing is to still read ugly statements about HC even when she is graciously conceeding, what they have been yelling here since March. We should expect the same vitriol against the Clintons even if they should go to Ohio, Florida and Arkansas this fall to salvage the faultering Obama campaign which is being crowned the nominee even after losing the vast majority of late primaries, some by as much as 30-41% points. I amazed that she should show the Obama campaign any courtesy at all considering how devious and ugly they have been to her, her dtgr, family and supporters for months. Yelling explitives at Chelsea, Hillary and Bill that I wouldn't let children hear. It is that vitriol from the Obama supporters that has turned me away from their campaign as I am sure millions of other HC supporters feel today. Have you no shame, have you no sense of dignity?
Apparently not. Keep up that hate filled language, it will guarantee your Nov loss.

Posted by: Leichtman | June 4, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Hillary lost the nomination for the simple fact that she is not right for the position. From the ill strategy she approved to run her campaign, to the constant flip-flapping of her messages. From the mismanagement of funds to the ungraceful and incorrect way she's ending her campaign. And to add insult to it all, trying to bully her way to the VP position. Can anyone, black or white, man or woman, imagine this kind of person running the country. SCARY! ISN'T IT?

Posted by: P. A. A. | June 4, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse


B.A.C. wrote; "Exactly what is Obama going to change???

Posted by: B.A.C. | June 4, 2008 9:12 PM "
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one of the first things i imagine, will make it a crime for stupid people to post crap like, "Exactly what is Obama going to change???"

those people will have their computers taken away.

Posted by: BOB | June 4, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Harried,
You are a lonely jack-off! I am sure you love the attention which I will kindly ask everyone to stop giving you including myself, so that we can use this blog for intelligent discussions. You are abusing the freedom that unfortunately a poor excuse for a human being like you has been given through the sweat and tears of our forefathers. I assume by your age you were probabaly one of those forefathers or just a plantation manager. Either way we are tired of your crap. Get a life and reserve your racist comments for yourself. BLACK, WHITE, BROWN OR YELLOW do not want to hear it. JACKASS!

Posted by: MGM | June 4, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Its about freaking time. Now if only the people of NY tell her to get the hell out, the world will be a better place. Maybe downstate NY will realize what upstate seems to have grasped...that she hasn't done anything for NY as a Senator. I personally didn't need any other reason to not vote for her, although she has many. Obama is not the best choice, but maybe he will make Bill Richardson (who was the best choice...talk about experience...and not fake HRC experience) Sec. of State or something. Hopefully Hillary and Bill will choose to help Obama and tell their supporters to support him and then fade behind the curtain and not ruin anything. God knows Obama doesn't want any of her strategists. I would also like to see Obama stick her for her personal "loans" to the campaign. Seeing how cozy she is with Wall Street, I am sure she can make her money back on her own. Maybe turn 1,000 into 10,000 like she did on the futures market back in the 90s when everyone else was losing money.

Posted by: Burt Reynolds | June 4, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse


b.a.c.

obama is already changing the washington landscape

do you really don t get it ?

from today lobbies has only 50% of presidential candidates on their payroll

never happened before

do you really don t get it ?

Posted by: giab | June 4, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

STORY CORRECTION - I represent the Hillary Clinton campaign, and I was just told by Hillary herself, to tell you the the event has now been moved to SUNDAY. So, everyone show up SUNDAY, not Saturday, and not Friday. SUNDAY. Thank you.

Posted by: BOB | June 4, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

It's awsome how Obama's supporters are so full of hate and nasty comments....
Posted by: Lucy | June 4, 2008 9:01 PM
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Please don't assume that the idiots that spew hate on this blog are in any way related to the Obama campaign.

Sen. Clinton is an inspiring and capable leader; she deserves our respect.

Posted by: Scott in NC | June 4, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

How many New Yorkers know what a rug merchant is? You remember, the stores that were "going out of business" for the last 43 years? Friday, then Saturday, just a "suspension". Yes, a bump in the road on her path to the Presidency. This is scary. Fatal Attraction stuff. Give it up. She's a Japanese soldier on a Pacific Island. Oy.

Posted by: Brooklyn | June 4, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Harried,

People like you give a bad name to all Americans.

Posted by: jlm062002 | June 4, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

At last she understands that it's not about her, it's about the nominee and the party. It's too bad that Charlie Rangel and other Members of Congress had to clue her in to this fact today, rather than her figuring out how to graciously concede on her own.

Posted by: Karen S | June 4, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Exactly what is Obama going to change???

Posted by: B.A.C. | June 4, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

In spite of the obnoxious fanatics in the pop movement for Obama, O know that the Illinois Senator is the better choice on Election Day.
But if he wants to win he has to silence the extreme voices that populate the blogs and stop playing the celebrity/star game. The latter was in play when Obama's camp picked President Kennedy's daughter Caroline as a member of the vetting committee for the vice presidential candidate.
For more on this, read:
http://www.reflectivepundit.com/reflectivepundit/2008/06/obama-of-celebr.html

Posted by: B.N. | June 4, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Hey Harried,
Sorry that you feel that way....after all, you are entitled to your own opinion no mattter how stupid, uncivilized and trailer park you are. Good luck with all of your serial killer endeavors!!

Posted by: MGM | June 4, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

I am a Hillary supporter and congratulate her on her acheivements. I will vote for Barack this November. There is no way I can vote for McCain and I hope all Hillary supporters who threaten to vote for McCain really consider what they are doing. This is not about Hillary anymore, this is about the country. If you are a true democrat and want to see the economy be stronger for you, your family, your friends, you will not vote for McCain. Hillary will fight for Obama this November. She will vote for Obama cause she too knows a dem in the white house is the best option for this country. Let's honor her and the party she loves by voting dem and not let Bush and the McCain and the republicans have another 4 years.

Thank you Hillary. You are an inspiration to many women.

Posted by: Kate | June 4, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Harried,

How in the world do you know how to blog yet spew the ignorance of an inbred retarded monkey? Truely amazing.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Friday, now Saturday. We have a "barricade situation" in police lingo. She is going to take hostages. Geez Louise, give it up. Crikey.

Posted by: Sgt Joe Friday | June 4, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

It's true that Obama is stronger for the battle with Clinton. We can respect her as a competitor, without liking her or wanting her on the ticket. I think it's her open lobbying for the VP spot BEFORE conceding to Obama and withdrawing officially from the presidential race that makes it hard for some of us to express appreciation. Seems to be Obama has been extremely generous in his remarks.

Posted by: RI Voter | June 4, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

no fricken way... she loves the LimeLight too much.

Posted by: pubichaironmycokecan | June 4, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

When my children lose a race or a contest. They lose graciously and congratulate the winner(s) immediately. It does not nor should not take 4 days!!!!!!

Posted by: Bridgette ONeil | June 4, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Congratulations to Clinton on a hard fought campaign. She deserves a lot of respect for her tenacity and smarts. I don't really have a problem with her taking a few days to let everything sink in, and plan her exit.

We ended up with a great Democratic candidate in Obama who's going to kick McCain's butt. On to the White House!

Posted by: rachael | June 4, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Been around a long time, in this friggin country. Ain't no way a "colored" Jackass get's voted in. A Black man will have to shoot his way in and this sissy ain't even the first half of MAN_BLACK!

Posted by: harried | June 4, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

The hatred being spewed on this page is a sad testament to the human race.

Posted by: concerned | June 4, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Sen Clinton was sabotaged by the DNC and the superdelegates of a corrupt, rigged Democratic Party.

The superdelegates failed in their responsibility to endorse Sen Clinton as the best qualified and the strongest candidate to win the general election in a landslide victory hands down.

In repudiation of the DNC and the superdelegates, Hillary Clinton supporters should work for the resounding defeat of Obama and vote for McCain. I will vote for McCain in a swing state.

It is delusional to think that Sen. Clinton's conceding or over time can "unify" the corrupt, rigged Democratic Party.

Posted by: crat3 | June 4, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

It's awsome how Obama's supporters are so full of hate and nasty comments. Hillary Clinton won 18 million votes! What a bunch of radicals and bitter people! That's why the democrats will lose.

Posted by: Lucy | June 4, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

The tackiest bunch of comments I have ever read.

Posted by: jill n-b | June 4, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, I heard that some of her most powerful advisers had to seek out members of the Senate to do an intervention.

What has this lady been thinking for the last three months when the writing was clearly on the wall for all to see?

It was a sickening display of denial that was completely worthy of being compared to Bush's legendary ability to defy reality and common sense.

Whew! We dodged a bullet...

Posted by: Brent Mack | June 4, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Hey, hey, hey people! Give it a rest! Obama won, already. Quit bashing Clinton! Be graceful in victory. She did a helluva job too. We're Obama supporters but she DESERVES our respect.

Harry--WA State

Posted by: harry | June 4, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

I am an Obama supporter, but remain perplexed about how Sen. Clinton is disrespected here by other of his supporters. Yeah, she pulled a lot of crappy Rove tactics, but that is not what Obama's message is about (contrary to what svreader and aspengirl like to imagine). I am also convinced that Obama is stronger because he had the chance of taking on and defeating the Clintons.

Posted by: jlm062002 | June 4, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Liar liar pant suit on fire is going to be gone? Ahh the comedians will be joining the other legions of those out of work. Comedy aside it is a great thing for America to not have to listen to or view this ludicrous narcissist any longer. She demands to be fed with adulation and is a proven spotlight hog.

No I wont miss her but I do encourage those who voted for and supported her to take a good long look at the right choice Barack Obama.

Posted by: Dolores Reyes | June 4, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Let us tak a moment to reflect on the fact that we had two extremely talented people running in the Dem primary this year and stop bringing up such vitriol. Both sides got hammered pretty hard by the other so each campaign has something to say about how the other side treated them. But we have observed a MAJOR moment in history: a woman running against an African American. Yes, there was racism and sexism which we all know is still alive and well in this country. But, do you think that this would have happened 20 years ago? We have made progress...
Yes, Hillary probabaly would have helped to drop out sooner but it is her right to stay in even if we cannot figure out why. This is America, after all.
I want to thank both candidates for doing this because running a primamry is not an easy task. Now let's get together and beat McCain! THAT is what really matters. If you don't think so then go read some of his policies and how he voted in the last few years. Our country is really hurting right now. Let's bandage up our wounds and hurt feelings and go and fix it!

Posted by: phorse | June 4, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

What is still amazing about the Democratic nomination process is that Iowa counts first, screw Florida and Michigan,,and it's a Karl Rove fix!!!

No way the Starbuck Buckaroo carries Florida in November,,,,watch out for California, lot of Latins been taught that sin is "BLACK"!

Posted by: harried | June 4, 2008 8:46 PM
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Harried,

Your pantsuit must be riding up on you or squeezing the life out of you. I can only assume that it is contracting you so tight that no blood is reaching your brain forcing you to be such a dumb**s.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse


so she will have 2 days more of front pages

bye bye momentum for obama

bye bye party loyalty

what a pathetic trick


Posted by: giab | June 4, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

FREE AT LAST!
FREE AT LAST!
THANK GOD ALMIGHTY,
WE'RE FREE AT LAST!
Posted by: Martin Edwin Andersen | June 4, 2008 8:32 PM
____________________

Hey Martin, have you consulted with Uncle Clarence about your "BLACK STUPIDITY"?

Shut up , sit down,,,this another of Bwana's donkeys!

Posted by: harried | June 4, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

is very refreshing that due to freedom of speech we can all air our views of the political events and milestones taking place in our nation. However, I am assuming that there is some higher level of education or experience that the people writing these comments possess, so let's act like it. There is no reason why there should be name calling of either Obama, Hilary or Bush-regardless of the opinions. I thought it was always wise to criticize the behavior and give comments or suggestions as to what could be done about an issue. If all of you are such stallions, how come you are not up there trying to change the world? Definitely not enough money or balls. Have any of you in your own small ways, in everyday life, helped a senior who could not afford medication? Gave blood to the Red Cross for a disaster? Offer to give a co-worker a ride because they cannot afford gas and make less than you? Volunteered at a homeless shelter for people less priveledged than you? Probably not or you can't remember.
On that note, shove it up your ass and gives kudos to the people who ARE out there trying to make a change in this God-forsaken nation!!!!! We appreciate you Obama, Hilary, McCain and Bush-even though the war is a sham.

Posted by: Amy M | June 4, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

I am in it to win it. Nuff said.

Posted by: ExArlingtonian | June 4, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Godpeed to Hillary and even more so to her supporters. It was a good tough battle and Barack Obama is now a better candidate due to the race with her. Barack Obama is a man of integrity and intellect and will represent our country well. CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN is in the air and that is a great thing.

Congratulations to Senator Obama for his historic victory and congratulations to America for moving another small step toward a more perfect union.

Barack And Roll in 2008!

Posted by: Raul Pedraza Miami | June 4, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Unbelievable! You mean she finally ran out of reasons to keep going? Oh I forgot, key word is SUSPENDED her campaign. Translation she is still viable if (god forbid) something should happen to Obama. The woman is a psychopath.

Posted by: tydicea | June 4, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton: Incapable of leading a sure-thing campaign; incapable of being gracious; incapable of acknowledging last night's major event; incapable of making important decisions at historic moments.

Were she to have been our president, she would respond to her 3 a.m. phone call: Hello, give me a few days or a week to think about that imminent catastrophic event so I can sort things through.

It still is all about Hillary, only about Hillary. Many of her loyal supporters are just beginning to see what they've been played for. Many today let her know what they thought about her victory speech last night. They should have introduced her to reality not today, but three or four months ago. But then, can reality and Hillary Clinton ever be joined?

Posted by: llr | June 4, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

What is still amazing about the Democratic nomination process is that Iowa counts first, screw Florida and Michigan,,and it's a Karl Rove fix!!!

No way the Starbuck Buckaroo carries Florida in November,,,,watch out for California, lot of Latins been taught that sin is "BLACK"!

Posted by: harried | June 4, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Ding Dong the witch is dead....

Posted by: YoMama | June 4, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Do you lack critical thinking and analysis skills? Think George Bush is the best thing since apple pie? Hate having to duke it out with rational thinking libruls in the WaPo's Comment sections? If so, Come to redstate.com or freerepublic.com, where rational ideas and reasoned arguments are banned at the first inkling of an original thought. Why argue with washington elitists when you can engage in groupthink that soothes your soul. redstate.com, freerepublic.com

Posted by: The 26 Percent Solution | June 4, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

My statements used poor grammar, but it's late for me so pardon my errors.

Posted by: af in nc | June 4, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Don Imus was right. HRC is Satan.

Posted by: P F Sloan | June 4, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Hillary,

You put a quite show
Very Entertaining
Now you're gonna go
Damn have I been waiting
But its oooover now
Go head and take a bow
Its over nowww

Posted by: Hans Folger | June 4, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

I think it's very unbecoming that people are treating the Clinton's in such vitrolic language and actions. The Clinton's gave us something to be proud of their public service. She had every right to vote, and I think every state in the union benefitted from this primary. We never in NC received anything this grand since JFK came to NC. So, lets not put the Clintons out to pasture, they have done a lot for this country. Politics is tuff game, and they know how to play it, to get things done, despite their ideology. Besides he was one of three, three, democrat President to be elected to two terms. Three.

Posted by: af in nc | June 4, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Well, at least she surrendered before North Korea, which still is in an armistice status since 1953.

Posted by: Kim Jung Illin in LA | June 4, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: common_viewer | June 4, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

He DOES look like a jackass, but this article is about Obama, NOT Bush. Heck, W not only looks like a jackass, judging from the results of his "decidings" I'd say he's got the brain of a jackass!

Posted by: ToMHERE | June 4, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Her behavior last night was reprehensible. She was behaving like a spoiled teenage little girl.For someone who was whining about no respect she sure was able to dish it out.

Posted by: daswenty | June 4, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Bye Bye Obama, Hello McCain!

Posted by: Jorge | June 4, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: common_viewer | June 4, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Kudos for Congressman Charlie Rangel for sending a much needed wake up call to bring Hillary back from the brink. If Obama prevails in November, he will and we will have Rangel to thank. As for the anti-right wing hater's comments, what can you say? Is this the level of intellect and maturity that passes for political discourse these days? Let's keep the discussion civil and rational.

Posted by: Giacomojo | June 4, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

FREE AT LAST!

FREE AT LAST!

THANK GOD ALMIGHTY,

WE'RE FREE AT LAST!

Posted by: Martin Edwin Andersen | June 4, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Who here thinks he looks like a JACKASS?

Posted by: harried | June 4, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Ryskamp: Would you mind keeping your nonsensical rants down to a few paragraphs.
You waste everyone's time here -- and only make a fool out of yourself.

Posted by: vegasgirl | June 4, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

She ran a good campaign. Both she and Obama made errors that cost them. I firmly believe in my heart that she really did want everyone's voices to be heard and was pressuring the DNC to look the American public in the face and explain why some people's votes counted and some didn't, or why some states should be allowed a choice in a primary and others presented with a fait accompli. There was undoubtedly a large dose of self-serving disingenuousness in her methods. But that doesn't make her points any less valid.

"Of the people, by the people and for the people"

Men have died for those words. Read them, remember them, live them.

Thank you Hillary for making sure everyone got a voice in this process! Go Obama and make this country great again, by first making it good! Go, Bush - just go, period, BEGONE!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: treetopflyer | June 4, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

So, Ryskamp, they're going to indict him because of a blog???? Someone's got delusions of grandeur (and a few others as well).

BB

Posted by: Fairlington Blade | June 4, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

I am sorry about what has happened. I am amazed that anyone could think Obama has it in him to be a good president. I would be sick to have to go around and endorse him for president. It really seems more like a beat up campaign than a real presidential campaign. But then, when have voters really chosen a well qualified candidate. It's more like a American Idol vote.

Posted by: Lynn E | June 4, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Hahahahahahaha -- bye bye Hillary...and good riddance.

Posted by: George McFly | June 4, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Daschle, former senator from South Dakota wasn't able to deliver his home state for Obama, who lost to Hillary by 10% last night- Hello! He has now lost 7 out of last 11 and all the caucuses are still not in- that do not count for pop. votes- in western RED Republican states.
Rezko -Obama's benifactor and long time friend, financier, having each others wives by homes under the table together, just found guilty on 16 counts fraud in Il. Political coruption and soon to head to the gov. and obama and his mentors? His chuch friends of 20 years cry white racist remarks and anti-American slogans & anti-women slogans while
Hillary wins pop. vote -WOW! The press really is worse than they were with BUSH!
Go Democrats- NOT!

Posted by: Robert | June 4, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

This is how I feel. If Hillary is just suspending her campaign, and she is jocking for VP, my advise is don't choose her for VP ahd let her try to rock the DNC in August. The right won't have her and she will so upset the left that she will effectly be zero politically. She should end her campaign now and concede and work to get the party elected. Then she will still have clout. Otherwise she is toast!!

Posted by: TimeforChange | June 4, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Obama will very soon be indicted, along with Blagojevich. Both will be prosecuted under the same section under which Rezko was convicted, 18 USC 1346. So then why did the scum, the dog, the hyena Obama run and betray his FOOLISH and IGNORANT supporters, when he knew he was going over?

It's simple: follow the money. The little punk raised $200 million.

For the benefit of your readers, Evelyn Pringle has just completed her series on Obama at opednews.com. They should IMMEDIATELY review the articles, and then review the discussion of 18 USC 1346 provided, in order to see for what activities Obama will be indicted:

Final Chapter - Curtain Time for Barack Obama Evelyn Pringle 05/22/2008 2
Curtain Time for Barack Obama - Part V Evelyn Pringle 05/18/2008 9
Curtain Time for Barack Obama - Part IV Evelyn Pringle 05/16/2008 22
Curtain Time for Barack Obama - Part III Evelyn Pringle 05/15/2008 11
Curtain Time for Barack Obama - Part II Evelyn Pringle 05/13/2008 15
Curtain Time For Barack Obama - Part I Evelyn Pringle 05/12/2008 33

Discussion of 18 USC 1346 from:

http://www.groom.com/_library/downloads/NAPPAArticle-Feb2006.pdf.

This article provides brief guidance as to the manner in which courts have interpreted 18 U.S.C. § 1346, which generally provides that for purposes of federal mail and wire fraud statutes (18 U.S.C. §§ 1341 and 1343, respectively), a "scheme or artifice to defraud" includes a "scheme or artifice to deprive another of the intangible right to honest services." Specifically, this article examines the manner in which courts have interpreted the broad language of § 1346 in circumstances that do not involve the explicit bribery of public officials.
I.
Background
18 U.S.C. § 1346 was enacted in 1988, for purposes of reversing the Supreme Court's decision in McNally v. U.S.,483 U.S. 350 (1987). In McNally, the Supreme Court overruled a long line of lower court decisions by holding that the federal mail and wire fraud statutes did not encompass schemes to defraud citizens of an intangible right to honest government service from pubic officers. Id. at 355. By enacting 18 U.S.C. § 1346, Congress restored "honest services" within the ambit of the federal mail and wire fraud statutes, meaning that a scheme to deprive the public of "honest services" by a public official could be punished as mail or wire fraud (assuming, of course, that such an instrumentality was used as part of the scheme or artifice).
II.
Judicial Interpretations of the "Honest Services" Fraud
A.
General Parameters of the Statute
Not surprisingly, the majority of cases that have analyzed the "honest services" fraud set forth in 18 U.S.C. § 1346 have involved the bribery of public officials, where the charge under § 1346 is in addition to other charges. However, there have been numerous prosecutions under § 1346 against public officials (and those who have corrupted public officials) for transactions that do not involve outright bribery, but which nonetheless involve the provision of cash or gifts to a public official in exchange for the public official's exercise of power on behalf of the individual or entity providing the gratuity.
Courts have recognized that the term "honest services," as used in § 1346, is incredibly broad, but the statute has survived repeated challenges asserting that it is unconstitutionally vague, with courts resorting to a "common sense" usage of the phrase "honest services." In rejecting a constitutional void-for-vagueness challenge to the statute's wording, one court opined that "[c]oncrete parameters outlining the duty of honest services should not be necessary. . . . The concept of the duty of honest services sufficiently conveys warning of the proscribed conduct when measured in terms of common understanding and practice." U.S. v. ReBrook, 837 F. Supp. 162, 171 (S.D. W. Va. 1993), aff'd. 58 F.3d 961 (4 th Cir. 1995). Another court demonstrated little patience for the defendant's void-for-vagueness challenge in the context of a kickback scheme, holding that "[i]t should be plain to ordinary people that offering and accepting large sums of money in exchange for a city councilman's vote is a type of conduct proscribed by the language of § 1346." U.S. v. Paradies, 98 F.3d 1266, 1283 (11 th Cir. 1996). Nonetheless, courts have refused to allow § 1346 to be used as a "catch-all" that subjects every unethical or illegal act to federal mail and wire fraud prosecution. See, e.g., U.S. v. Bloom, 149 F.3d 649, 654-56 (7 th
Cir. 1998) (noting, inter alia, that "not every breach of fiduciary duty works a criminal fraud"); U.S. v. Welch, 327 F.3d 1081, 1107 (10 th Cir. 2003) ("the right to honest services is not violated by every breach of contract, breach of duty, conflict of interest, or misstatement made in the course of dealing"). Recognizing the difficulty of interpreting the undefined phrase "honest services," courts have attempted to establish general criteria that must be satisfied to successfully assert an "honest services" fraud claim. One of the leading circuits interpreting the scope of the honest services fraud is the First Circuit Court of Appeals, which held that: First, . . . honest services convictions of public officials typically involve serious corruption, such as embezzlement of public funds, bribery of public officials, or the failure of public decision-makers to disclose conflicts of interest. Second, . . . the broad scope of the mail fraud statute . . . does not encompass every instance of official misconduct that results in the official's personal gain. Third, and most importantly, . . . the government must not merely indicate wrongdoing by a public official, but must also demonstrate that the wrongdoing at issue is intended to prevent or call into question the proper or impartial performance of the public servant's official duties. U.S. v. Czubinski, 106 F.3d 1069, 1076 (1 st Cir. 1997) (emphasis added) (internal citations and quotations omitted), (discussing the First Circuit's prior decision in U.S. v. Sawyer, 85 F.3d 713, 724 (1996). The Seventh Circuit has held that "[m]isuse of office (more broadly, misuse of position) for private gain is the line that separates run of the mill violations of state law fiduciary duty . . . from federal crime." U.S. v. Bloom, 149 F.3d 649, 655 (7 th Cir. 1998). The court went on to note that "in almost all of the intangible rights cases decided . . . (before McNally or since § 1346), the defendant used his office for private gain, as by accepting a bribe in exchange for official action[,]" but also noted that "[s]ecret conversion of information received in a fiduciary capacity is a form of fraud against the owner of that information." Id. Accordingly, the Seventh Circuit summarized its test for an honest services fraud as follows: "[a]n employee deprives his employer of his honest services only if he misuses his position (or the information he obtained in it) for personal gain" (emphasis added). Id. at 656-57.

Posted by: John Ryskamp | June 4, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

As the general election is launched, make sure to check Campaign Diaries' first electoral college ratings, with McCain at 227 EVs and Obama at 207. Detailed explanations here: http://www.campaigndiaries.com/2008/06/first-electoral-college-ratings-its.html

Posted by: Dan | June 4, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

When will this tedious couple (Bill and Hillary) leave the building? It's Obama's party now.

Posted by: Marcia | June 4, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

As the general election is launched, make sure to check Campaign Diaries' first electoral college ratings, with McCain at 227 EVs and Obama at 207. Detailed explanations here: http://www.campaigndiaries.com/2008/06/first-electoral-college-ratings-its.html

Posted by: Dan | June 4, 2008 8:24 PM | Report abuse

I wish she won. I'd love nothing better than to listen to you guys whine about Clinton being in the office for 8 more years. You guys deserve all the pain and misery we can give you since you ruined our country. Traitors.

Posted by: Anti-Right Wing Haters | June 4, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

So much for a gracious exit. She'll probably light the stage with gasoline and immolate during her endorsement.

Posted by: Ben Franklin | June 4, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

In other news today, the New England Patriots conceded defeat to the New York Giants for the Super Bowl.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

she must be broke. All her hillbilly backers can't afford to fund her campaign. Serves her right.

Posted by: gbooksdc | June 4, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Classy move from a classy lady, DCDave??? She already lost and we should give her credit for dropping out? Please...

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Dropping out of the race 4 days after the race is over! Very bold.

Posted by: fmjk | June 4, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

I'll believe it the day after the Democratic convention.

Posted by: Helena Montana | June 4, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Lol

Posted by: JakeD | June 4, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

See, she is dropping out just like everyone except for democratic 'Hillary Haters' thought. Classy move from a classy lady.

Posted by: DCDave | June 4, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

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